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>> CLERK: GOOD AFTERNOON.

WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL B SESSION OF OCTOBER 31ST, 2018.

>> CLERK: MAYOR, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: ALL RIGHT.

GOOD AFTERNOON AND HAPPY HALLOWEEN, CLAYTON PERRY.

[LAUGHTER]

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: WELCOME TO OUR CITY COUNCIL B SESSION.

THE TIME IS 2:10 P.M.

WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA

[1. Briefing by the Mayor's Airport System Development Committee [Carlos J. Contreras, Assistant City Manager; Russell Handy, Aviation Director]]

TODAY AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR CITY MANAGER.

>> SCULLEY: THANK YOU, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

OUR FIRST PRESENTATION TODAY IS TO PROVIDE A PROGRESS UPDATE ON THE AIRPORT SYSTEM DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE'S WORK, AND AS YOU KNOW, THAT IS CHAIRED BY JOHN DICKSON.

HE IS A PRINCIPLE OF THE DEN ANY MORE GROUP AND A FORMER U.S. AIR FORCE OFFICER.

A NUMBER OF REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE COMMITTEE ARE HERE TODAY, AND I THINK JOHN'S GOING TO INTRODUCE THEM IN A MOMENT.

BUT MAYOR, AS YOU KNOW, YOU APPOINTED THE COMMITTEE IN JANUARY TO STUDY THE LONG-TERM NEEDS FOR SAN ANTONIO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, WHILE CONSIDERING THE REGION'S GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT OVER THE UPCOMING DECADES, AND TO EVALUATE AIR SERVICE NEEDS; THAT IS, CAN OUR CURRENT AIRPORT ACCOMMODATE THE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMMUNITY OVER THE NEXT TWO DECADES.

THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS REPRESENT BUSINESS AND COMMUNITY LEADERS AND HAVE USED THEIR PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUNDS IN EXPERIENCE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS ANALYSIS WITH RUSS HANDY, OUR AVIATION DIRECTOR AND JOHN DICKSON WHO CHAIRS THIS COMMITTEE'S WORK.

SO SINCE MARCH, THE COMMITTEE HAS RECEIVED MONTHLY BRIEFINGS AND HAS COORDINATED WITH THE AIRPORT PLANNING TEAM.

AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE UNDERTAKING A COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE TO OUR MASTER PLAN AT THE AIRPORT SIMULTANEOUSLY, AND SO BOTH THE COMMITTEE AND THE AIRPORT PLANNERS ARE WORKING TOGETHER ANALYZING THE FUTURE OF OUR AIRPORT SYSTEM, USING A DATA-DRIVEN APPROACH TO THE FUTURE.

SO TODAY DOESN'T SIGNAL THE END OF THE PROCESS FOR THE COMMITTEE, BUT RATHER THE CONTINUING WORK AND PHASE 1 WILL BE PRESENTED TODAY IN TERMS OF THEIR FINDINGS AND SOME OF THEIR ANALYSIS, AND THEN THE SECOND PHASE OF THE STUDY WILL FOCUS ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

SO JOHN DICKSON IS HERE, HE'S GOING TO PROVIDE A DETAILED REVIEW OF THE INFORMATION, AND AVIATION DIRECTOR RUSS HANDY, WHO'S ALSO A MEMBER OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, IS ALSO AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AS WE BEGIN THE POLICY CONVERSATION ABOUT THE FUTURE OF SAN ANTONIO INTERNATIONAL.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JOHN DICKSON.

AND, JOHN, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS AND YOUR WORK WITH RUSS HANDY AND OUR ENTIRE AVIATION TEAM.

>> THANK YOU, MANAGER SCULLEY.

MAYOR NIRENBERG, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, WE'RE PROUD TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU AFTER ABOUT SEVEN TO EIGHT MONTHS WORTH OF HEAVY WORK ON OUR END.

BEFORE WE GET GOING HERE, IF I COULD GET THE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMITTEE TO STAND UP, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE ALL OF Y'ALL INDIVIDUALLY FOR THE LABOR OF LOVE AND THE WORK THAT WE'VE HAD.

JOHN AGATHA, JORGE, MARK, MARINA, OBVIOUSLY JOE HANDY, HARVEY HOW WELL, WHEREVER YOU ARE.

THERE YOU ARE.

WE'VE ALSO GOT JIM, GENERAL RICE AND RANDY SMITH FROM WESTERN IRVIN.

I'LL GO THROUGH THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE IN A SECOND BUT WE'VE BEEN GOING AT IT AT FOUR-HOUR STINTS FOR THE REALLY EIGHT OR NINE MONTHS.

IT'S BEEN A LABOR OF LOVE AS I MONEY SHUNNED AND WE'RE -- MENTIONED AND WE'RE HERE NOW TO PRESENT THE RESULTS OF ALL OF OUR EFFORTS HERE NOW.

THANK YOU.

I'LL PROVIDE A QUICK INTRODUCTION AND OVERVIEW OF THE TECHNICAL PROBLEM THAT WE TACKLED IN THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.

TALK ABOUT REALLY THE INPUTS, THE CONSIDERATIONS, AND I'LL USE THE TERM CONSTRAINTS.

I'LL TALK IN TERMS OF REGION, I'LL TALK IN TERMS OF COMPETITION AND COMPETING FOR TWO THINGS ESSENTIALLY: NUMBER ONE, THAT MORE FLIGHTS, AIRLINES, AIRLINE CAPACITY AND THE FLYERS AND THE PASSENGERS.

AND THIS WILL COME OUT IN TODAY'S PRESENTATION.

I'LL TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE AND THE FUTURE AIR DEMAND THAT WE THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN AND HAS BEEN QUANTIFIED BY THE STUDY THAT OUR CONSULTANT PARTNERS HAVE PROVIDED.

AND TODAY, I THINK, VALIDATED BY THE FAA.

SO THE NUMBERS THAT WE'VE RELIED ON HERE ARE AS SOLID AS THE

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NUMBERS AS YOU'RE GOING TO GET, AND AS WE APPROACH THIS PROBLEM, WE LOOKED AT THIS REALLY FROM A FACT-BASED APPROACH.

WE STARTED OFF, THERE WERE NO PREEXISTING END POINTS, THERE WAS NO PREDETERMINED OUTCOME, AND WE LOOKED AT THIS IN A VERY DATA-DRIVEN AND FACT-BASED WAY.

AND THE RESULTS TODAY SPEAK TO THAT PARTICULAR PROCESS.

I THINK THE STRENGTH OF THE PROCESS WAS THAT, THE FACTS, AND THE COMMITTEE ITSELF.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND.

REALLY WHAT WE'RE HERE TODAY IS TO TALK ABOUT THE 800-POUND GORILLA, THE REAL CHALLENGE THAT WE HAD IN PHASE 1, WHICH WAS WILL IT FIT? WILL ANY FUTURE AIRPORT THAT WE CAN EVEN IMAGINE IN THE NEXT 50 YEARS, THAT WE CAN EVEN DESIGN, WILL THAT FIT IN THE FOOTPRINT THAT IS SAT, SAN ANTONIO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS, BECAUSE AS THE MANAGER MENTIONED, WE'RE NOT DONE YET.

AND WE HOPE -- WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK AHEAD OF OURSELVES.

SO THIS IS OUR REALLY -- REALLY OUR STRATEGIC VISION, THIS IS THE CHARTER, IS TO LOOK AT THE STRATEGIC NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY AS IT RELATES TO ITS AIRPORT, AIR TRAVEL, AIR SERVICE.

AND TO REALLY LEVERAGE WHAT WE HAVE ALL THROUGH THE CONTEXT OF, LIKE I SAID, COMPETITION IN AN INCREDIBLY FAST-CHANGING WORLD.

AND ONE OF THE ANECDOTES THAT WE SHARED WITH CHAIRMAN SALDAÑA AND THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE THIS PAST WEEK WAS THE FACT THAT DFW IS NOW WORKING WITH UBER TO DO AN AUTONOMOUS FLYING VEHICLE OUT OF DFW FOR THE FUTURE.

SO, AGAIN, MUCH OF WHAT WE PUT TOGETHER IS VIEWED THROUGH THE LENS THAT THE TECHNOLOGY, THE AIRLINE INDUSTRY IS GOING TO CHANGE A LOT MORE IN THE NEXT 50 YEARS THAN IT HAS IN THE LAST 50 YEARS, SO KEEP THAT IN MIND.

HERE'S OUR TEAM.

MOST OF WHOM ARE REPRESENTED TODAY, AS I THINK YOU WILL SEE IT'S A BLUE-RIBBON COMMITTEE.

WE'VE MET AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH FOR ABOUT THREE TO FOUR HOURS EACH.

WE'VE BEEN RESPECTFUL OF THEIR TIME, AND ESSENTIALLY THE PROCESS WAS TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE WERE GETTING FROM THE FAA-MANDATED [INDISCERNIBLE] THAT OUR CONSULTING PARTNERS PROVIDED, BUT TO ESSENTIALLY VIEW THOSE RESULTS THROUGH THIS PARTICULAR GROUP.

SO THAT'S HALF THE COMMITTEE.

HERE'S THE OTHER HALF.

I THINK IT HAS A STRONG REPRESENTATION OF INDUSTRY, EXPERTISE, BUT ALSO WHAT I CALL MYSELF AND OTHERS, LAY PEOPLE, PEOPLE THAT USE THE AIRPORT OR PEOPLE THAT ARE -- HAVE MAYBE A CORPORATE INTEREST, SO IT WASN'T ALL INSIDE BASEBALL AVIATION AND MRO AND THOSE TYPE OF PEOPLE.

A GOOD MIXTURE OF THOSE.

AND YOU'LL SEE MANY OF KIND OF THE CORNERSTONE INDUSTRIES REPRESENTED HERE TODAY.

WE HAVE MANY CEOS, SENIOR VPS OF OUR LARGEST CORPORATIONS, I THINK THREE RETIRED GENERALS, IN SPITE OF THAT, WE WORKED VERY, VERY WELL TOGETHER, I WILL SAY, AND IT WAS A LABOR OF LOVE, LIKE I SAID.

THERE WERE -- SOME OF THE THINGS YOU'RE ABOUT TO HEAR WE FELT VERY STRONGLY ABOUT, AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THOSE.

THE OTHER CRITICAL COMPONENTS IN ADDITION TO RUSS AND HIS FULL-TIME TEAM AT THE AIRPORT WERE REALLY TWO BIG PIECES THAT GOT US TO THIS POINT.

THE NUMBER ONE IS WSP, JOHN, IF YOU'LL INTRODUCE JOHN THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

THEY ARE A NATIONAL-LEVEL FIRM THAT DOES THIS THROUGHOUT THE U.S.

AND WHAT THEY BROUGHT TO THE TABLE TO US WERE ALL THE ANECDOTES, THE DATA, THE WAR STORIES OF ALL THESE AIRPORTS.

SO THE INTERESTING THING HERE IS WE BROUGHT A NATIONAL LEVEL FIRM IN TO ESSENTIALLY LEVERAGE ALL THE LESSONS LEARNED OF ALL THESE OTHER AIRPORTS, SOME OF WHOM LOOK LIKE US AND OTHERS LIKE SFO AND O'HARE THAT DON'T LOOK LIKE US.

SO WE CAN MAKE AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON, SO WE CAN LOOK AT THENCE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING, THROUGH THAT, THROUGH A TECHNICAL FEASIBILITY LENS.

I ALSO WANT TO -- WHERE IS FRANCISCO GONIMA? HE WAS OUR FACILITATOR AND KEPT ME ON TRACK, HE KEPT THE TEAM ON TRACK.

I THINK WHEN WE BROUGHT HIM ON BOARD, I UNDERSTOOD HE DID CITY COUNCIL BUDGET PRIORITIES AND SESSIONS, AND THAT'S ALL I NEEDED TO KNOW.

AND HE'S BEEN FANTASTIC.

HE'S BEEN A GREAT TEAM MEMBER, KEEPING US POINTED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, SO LIKE I SAID, WE'VE -- AND AT TIMES MAYBE GO FASTER OR MAYBE GO SLOWER WHEN WE GOTTEN THEUS AS TICK.

(GOT ENTHUSIASTIC.

THIS IS OUR TIMELINE.

DEPENDING ON HOW YOU COUNT IT, ANYWHERE FROM EIGHT MONTHS TO A YEAR.

I THINK IT TOOK US THE BETTER PART OF TWO OR THREE MONTHS TO REALLY NAIL DOWN THE COMMITTEE, TO NAIL DOWN THE CHARTER, AND THE ONE THING THAT WE LEARNED, AGAIN, PARTICULARLY THE LAY PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE, IS THAT THERE'S A HUGE LEARNING CURVE ASSOCIATED WITH AIRPORTS AND AIR TRAVEL AND I'M A MILLION MILER ON TWO AIRLINES, SO I FLY A TON.

I'M FLYING OUT TO LA TOMORROW AT

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6:20.

I STILL DIDN'T -- [INDISCERNIBLE] SO MUCH OF THE FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS WERE TO GET THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO GET THEIR ARMED WRAPPED AROUND THE CHALLENGES THAT AIRPORTS AND THEIR SERVICE HAVE AND, AGAIN, IN THE CONTEXT OF A RAPIDLY CHANGING INDUSTRY.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE LIVED THROUGH SEPTEMBER 11TH AND THE GREAT RECESSION THAT OUR FLYING INFRASTRUCTURE LOOKS INCREDIBLY DIFFERENT THAN IT DID EVEN FIVE YEARS AGO.

AGAIN, I'LL PROBABLY BE ON A COMPETELY FULL FIGHT TO LA TOMORROW, THE GOOD OLD DAYS WHERE YOU HAD A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE ON AN AIRPLANE JUST SIMPLY DON'T EXIST NOW.

WE GOT UP TO DATE AND UP TO SPEED ON THE PROFILE OF THE TRAVELERS, OF THE PEOPLE, THE FLYERS.

I CALL IT THE DEMAND PICTURE.

WHAT IS THE DEMAND PICTURE LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE IT'S UNIQUE TO SAN ANTONIO.

IT'S DIFFERENT FROM AUSTIN, IT'S DIFFERENT FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.

IT'S DIFFERENT FROM SAN DIEGO, IT'S DIFFERENT FROM OKLAHOMA CITY.

OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A LOT OF MILITARY FLYERS, WE HAVE A LOT OF LEISURE TRAVELERS.

WE HAVE A GROWING -- A PARTICULARLY POSITIVE PICTURE.

I WILL TELL YOU THIS AND ANECDOTALLY, I'VE BEEN TO PLACES THAT HAVE A LESS ROSY PICTURE.

IF YOU'VE FLOWN THROUGH ST.

LOUIS LAMBERT RECENTLY WHEN AMERICAN ACQUIRED TWA, THEY CUT ST. LOUIS OUT AS A HUB CITY, SO THERE'S THE BETTER PART OF AN ENTIRE TERMINAL THAT'S ABANDONED AND THAT'S HAPPENED THROUGH INDUSTRY CONSOLIDATION.

GO TO KANSAS CITY, THEIR TERMINAL A IS COMPLETELY ABANDONED AND WILL BE THE FOOTPRINT FOR THEIR NEW TERMINAL, BUT WE HAVE ENJOYED SOMEWHAT A LARGE SET OF RICHES AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE TRIED TO LEARN HERE.

SO THAT WAS REALLY THE TIMELINE.

AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT WE ALSO HAD IN PARALLEL A STUDY, THIS WAS THE TECHNICAL STUDY THAT THE FAA MANDATES ALL AIRPORTS DO, AND IT'S A 10-YEAR BASIS THAT THEY HAVE TO DO THAT.

IS THAT CORRECT? MORE OR LESS.

AND THE IMPORTANT PART ABOUT THAT IS THE FAA, THROUGH ITS FUNDING MECHANISMS, REALLY LEVERAGES ITS RESOURCES TO PUT MONEY IN PARTICULAR PARTS OF THE NETWORK.

WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, THEY ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THEY PUT ADDITIONAL FEDERAL MONIES, IS IT IN LAGUARDIA, IS IT O'HARE, IS IT LAX? IS IT SAN ANTONIO? PART OF THAT DECISION-MAKING CRITERIA IS THE ACTUAL DEMAND PICTURE AND THE COMMUNITY INPUT OF IT.

SO WHAT OUR COMMUNITY DID WAS ESSENTIALLY PIGGYBACK FROM THAT EFFORT.

I THINK 75% OF THAT STUDY WAS FUNDED BY THE FAA, IF I'M CORRECT, SO THAT'S A PART OF THE PICTURE IS THE FACT THAT THIS WAS AN FAA-DRIVEN AND MANDATED AND TO SOME -- YOU KNOW, THREE-QUARTERS FUNDED EFFORT THAT WE GOT TO LEVERAGE.

AND THE DATA THAT WE MADE OUR DECISIONS MADE OFF OF WAS LARGELY FROM THIS EFFORT.

YOU'LL NOTICE THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PUBLIC INPUT AS WE FOUND OUT AT THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEMBER MEETING.

WE NEED -- THERE'S MORE INPUT THAT NEEDS TO BE PROVIDED, AND WE'RE GOING TO REACH OUT TO INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

SO HERE'S OUR CHARGE AND THE SUMMARY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THE REAL BIG CONCLUSION IS WE REALIZE THAT -- WE'VE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THE NEXT 50 YEARS WE ARE WELL SUITED TO STAY AT THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT OF THE AIRPORT.

TO PUT IT ANOTHER WAY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEMAND PICTURE THAT WE HAVE FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS, THROUGH 2068, WE ARE SERVED WELL BY THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT ON WHICH SAT RESIDES.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE ALTERNATIVES, WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT WE LOOKED AT, BUT THAT'S THE KEY POINT GOING FORWARD.

WE -- OUR NEXT PHASE IS TO LOOK AT THE HOW'S AND WHEREFORES? AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IF WE STAY AT THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AS FUTURE TERMINALS, FUTURE RUNWAY FACILITIES, ADDITIONAL RUNWAYS, ALL OF THAT.

WE'LL CONTINUE TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY ENGAGED THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND CONTINUE TO BRIEF YOU.

SO HERE WAS OUR REAL CHALLENGE.

I MENTIONED THE 800-POUND GORILLA WAS DO WE STAY OR NOT? AND THAT'S BEEN THE FOCUS OF THE ACTIVITY.

THE REASON FOR THAT, IF WE SAID NO, WE NEED TO GET A NEW AIRPORT FOOTPRINT, THE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ENERGY WE'D HAVE TO SPEND WOULD TAKE THE BETTER PART OF NEXT YEAR JUST TO IDENTIFY A SITE, TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, TO ACQUIRE -- YOU KNOW, TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT WHERE, WHEREFOR, AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE, AND HOW MUCH? THE OTHER CONSTRAINT THAT CAME THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS WAS ONE OF PHYSICAL REALITY.

I PUT IT AS A SCENARIO MULTIPLE TIMES, THAT WE ARE CONSTRAINED BY OBVIOUSLY OUR OWN FINANCES, BUT THE AIRLINES WERE, YOU KNOW, CAREFUL TO POINT OUT TO US THAT IF WE BUILT A NEW AIRPORT AND

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PASSED THE NEW AIRPORT COST ONTO THEM IN THE FORM OF GATE FEES, THAT THEY MAY NOT LIKE THAT.

THEY MAY ACTUALLY MOVE FLIGHTS TO AUSTIN, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE DID THAT.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT FUNDING MECHANISMS, FAA'S ANOTHER ONE OF THEM, THAT WAS OUR BIG CHALLENGE.

SO PHASE 1, DO WE SPEND TIME ON BUILDING, YOU KNOW, A NEW AIRPORT, FIND A NEW LAND? THAT WOULD HAVE TAKEN THE NEXT YEAR, AND WE -- THE SECOND THING WAS -- EXCUSE ME, LET ME GO BACK.

IF WE DO THE SECOND ALTERNATIVE, WHICH WAS WE KEEP THE FOOTPRINT, THEN WHAT DO WE DO WITH OUR EXISTING AIR TERMINAL FACILITY? THE PARKING FACILITY? WHAT DO WE DO TO MAXIMIZE WHAT WE HAVE? SO THE OTHER THING THAT REALLY DROVE OUR DECISION-MAKING PROCESS WAS WE RECOGNIZE, AS I KIND OF ELUDED TO EARLIER, THAT THE AIRLINE INDUSTRY IS RAPIDLY CHANGING.

IT WILL CHANGE MORE IN THE NEXT 50 YEARS THAN IT HAS IN THE 50 YEARS PRIOR.

IT WILL -- AS I MENTIONED, WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS THERE WASN'T ANYTHING REFERENCING THINGS LIKE UBER AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES FLYING AROUND.

AS WE POINTED OUT, EVEN WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF TRANSPORTATION, IF YOU LOOK AT IT MORE BROADLY, THE AIR OF PUBLIC POLICY AROUND SCOOTERS WASN'T A TOPIC SIX TO NINE MONTHS AGO.

SO -- AND THOSE CHANGES ARE COMING TO US WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO DO IS BE MINDFUL OF THAT PARTICULAR REALITY.

AND I'VE SAID THIS PUBLICLY AND PRIVATELY, WHAT I WORRIED ABOUT WAS OUR COMMITTEE WAS BEING ASKED TO LOOK AT THE RAIL NETWORK, AND IT'S 1946, THE PASSENGER RAIL NETWORK, AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THE AIRLINES ARE GOING -- AIR TRAVEL IS GOING TO BE A FEASIBLE OPTION IN THE NEXT 50 YEARS.

WE DON'T KNOW THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY SYSTEM THAT'S ABOUT TO BE BUILT.

A LOT OF THAT FACTORED INTO OUR DECISION-MAKING.

WE KNEW WE COULD PLAN INTO THE NEXT 20 TO 30 YEARS, BUT IF YOU SAY 40 TO 50 YEARS, WHO KNOWS? HYPERLOOP, THERE'S AN RFP ON THE STREET IN CHICAGO RIGHT NOW TO PUT A HYPERLOOP TYPE CAPABILITY BETWEEN DOWNTOWN CHICAGO AND O'HARE, SO THESE THINGS ARE GOING FROM THE REALM OF SCIENCE FICTION TO THE REALM OF REAL FICTION RIGHT NOW.

THE OTHER THING IS LIKE AIRSHIP TECHNOLOGY AND AUTONOMOUS TRUCKS WHICH WILL HAPPEN IN OUR PROFESSIONAL LIFETIMES ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE WAY THAT CARGO IS HANDLED.

SO EVERYTHING THAT WE RECOGNIZED WAS THAT WE KEPT GOING BACK TO THIS, THE REAL ESTATE, THE REEMENTS, THE LOCATION IS ACTUALLY ONE OF OUR BIGGEST STRATEGIC STRENGTHS THAT WE HAVE, WE AN AIRPORT VERY CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN AND LARGELY IN THE MIDDLE OF MOST OF THE CITIZENRY.

COMPARE THAT TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIESND IN OTHER REGIONS.

I TALKED IN TERMS OF CONSTRAINTS AND I THREW OUT THE SCENARIO THAT IF SOMEHOW MAGICALLY WE FOUND 3,000 OR 4,000 ACRES OF LAND IN BEXAR COUNTY IN THE NORTHEAST OR SOMEWHERE AND IF WE MAGICALLY GOT 5 BILLION IN FUNDING, WE STILL COULDN'T BUILD OUR OWN AIRPORT WITHOUT HAVING THE FAA APPROVE IT.

WE CAN'T FLY INTO THEIR AIR NETWORK WITHOUT THEIR APPROVAL.

AND THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, INCLUDING THE STUDY THAT THEY JUST FUNDED, THAT'S HOW THEY GUARANTEE UNIFORMITY AND SAFETY THROUGHOUT THE FLYING NETWORK, SO THAT SAN ANTONIO -- WHEN YOU FLY IN AND OUT OF SAN ANTONIO, IT'S THE SAME AS FLYING IN AND OUT OF SAN DIEGO, OR SAN FRANCISCO, AS A FLYER YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT A HODGEPODGE OF SAFETY CONCERNS THROUGHOUT.

THEY HAVE A SYSTEM THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES.

THE DOWNSIDE OF THAT IS REGION, MUNICIPALITIES HAVE A MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TIME JUST GOING OUT AND DOING THEIR OWN THING WITHOUT THE FAA'S FUNDING OR EVEN WITHOUT IT, THEIR APPROVAL.

SO THEY PLAY A BIGGER ROLE THAN ANY OF US, EXCEPT FOR THE PROFESSIONAL STAFF -- ANY OF US FULLY RECOGNIZED.

HERE'S THE OTHER CONSTRAINTS, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS AND REPEAT IT OVER AND OVER.

WE ARE WITHIN AN HOUR OF TWO OF THE LARGEST HUBS IN NORTH AMERICA.

THAT SEEMS A STATEMENT OF THE OBVIOUS, AND WE'RE WITHIN AN HOUR OF TWO OF THE LARGEST, WHAT SOUTHWEST CALLS CONNECTS -- THEIR AIRPORTS -- WHAT'S THE TERM, RUSS? FOCUSED CITIES.

THEY DON'T CALL THEM HUBS, BECAUSE THEY'RE SOUTHWEST.

THEY'RE FOCUSED CITIES.

BUT THE POINT IS THAT THAT'S A LOT OF AIR SERVICE CAPACITY WITHIN AN HOUR OF HERE.

SO WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT MAKES THE INTERESTING CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF THOSE INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS THAT ARE SERVICES OUT OF THE EXISTING HUBS.

THE OTHER THING IS, WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT, THE AIRLINES, AND INCREASINGLY OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, ARE VIEWING OUR REGION AS A REGION, EVEN IF WE DON'T.

AND CERTAINLY THAT'S THE CASE IN THE FORM OF THE AIRLINES.

THE AIRLINES HAVE REMINDED US

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THAT, AND THEY'VE SAID IT IN THE FORM OF -- YOU KNOW, THAT THEY HAVE VIABLE OPTIONS, WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN SERVICE THIS MARKET FROM AUSTIN.

AND AUSTIN CAN SERVICE -- AND VICE VERSA.

WE KNOW ANECDOTALLY THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT GO UP TO AUSTIN TO FLY BRITISH AIRWAYS TO THE UK BUT WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM AUSTIN COME DOWN HERE TO FLY TO MEXICO ALL THE TIME BECAUSE IT'S EASIER.

SO EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T RECOGNIZE IT, THAT'S CERTAINLY THE CASE.

AND THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO EMPHASIZE IS WE HAVE TWO VARIABLES.

ONE VARIABLE IS THE AIRLINES, BUT A MOMENT'S NOTICE CAN ADD OR NOT ADD, OR DELETE FLIGHTS FROM SAT OR OTHER AIRPORTS, AND THE FLYERS THEMSELVES, WHO HAVE ALTERNATIVES.

ANECDOTICALLY RANDY SMITH AND I, ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMITTEE, WENT UP TO NEW BRAUNFELS AND MET WITH THE COUNTY JUDGE, THE MAYOR AND THE LEADERSHIP UP THERE AND WE LEARNED THAT THEY FLY TO AUSTIN -- OR GO THROUGH AUSTIN BECAUSE GETTING THROUGH TO STATE HIGHWAY 130 AND GOING BERGSTROM THE BACK WAY IS FAR EASIER THAN GOING INTO SAN ANTONIO DURING RUSH HOUR FOR AN ARRIVAL.

WE HAD NO IDEA -- AT LEAST I HAD NO IDEA.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING AREAS IN OUR STATE, IF NOT OUR COUNTRY, AND THEY HAVE ALTERNATIVES TO GO OTHER PLACES.

SO THAT DIDN'T REALLY EXIST 10 OR 15 OR 20 YEARS AGO, IT CERTAINLY EXISTS NOW.

SO WE ARE IN A COMPETITIVE LANDSCAPE WE'RE COMPETING FLYERS, WE'RE COMPETING FOR AIRLINE FLIGHTS.

THIS IS A CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEPARTMENT THAT IS ESSENTIALLY RUNNING A REGIONAL -- MEGAREGIONAL ASSET, NOT JUST OUR ACOG REASON, BUT ALL THE WAY TO THE VALLEY, INCREASINGLY NORTH AND SOUTH.

SO WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? FAA, IN FACT, HAS A DE FACTO VETO POWER EVEN IF THEY DON'T ADMIT IT, EVEN IF WE DON'T ADMIT IT.

I WOULD PUT IT ANOTHER WAY: IF YOU LOOK AT -- IF YOU PUT YOURSELF IN THE SEATS OF THE FAA AND YOU FLY FREQUENTLY LIKE MANY OF US DO, THEY RECOGNIZE THAT THEY ARE MUCH BIGGER PROBLEMS IN OUR AIR NETWORK.

IF YOU'VE FLOWN THROUGH ATLANTA, LAGUARDIA, SFO, NAME ONE OF THOSE DREADFUL CITIES THAT ONE OF US WILL FLY THROUGH SOON, THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING THEIR DOLLARS, IS WHERE THE NATION HAS ITS CRITICAL POINTS.

THEY DON'T PERCEIVE US TO HAVE AN AIRPORT PROBLEM.

IF YOU GO TO THE STATE, OUR STATE LEGISLATURES DON'T PERCEIVE THAT SAN ANTONIO HAS AN AIRPORT PROBLEM.

THE AIRPORT PROBLEM IS ONE THAT WE REGIONALLY FEEL.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE SAID, IF WE DO A GOOD JOB WE TAKE WHAT IS PERCEIVED TO BE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT LIABILITY AND WE CHANGE IT TO A PERCEIVED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRENGTH.

THE EMPHASIS ON THE WORD "PERCEIVED" ON BOTH ENDS.

SO HERE'S WHAT WE ALSO FOUND.

I MENTIONED THE PASSENGERS HAVE VIABLE ALTERNATIVES, AND WE'RE DOING IT.

PEOPLE IN THE ROOM HAVE ADMITTED THEY FLY OUT OF AUSTIN, I'VE DONE IT, TOO.

IT ALSO PROVIDES A POSITIVE OPTION.

WHEN YOU'RE IN SAN FRANCISCO OR NEW YORK AND AS THINGS HAPPEN, FLIGHTS GET CANCELED, YOU NOW HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE.

YOU CAN FLY INTO AUSTIN AND GET DOWN TO SAN ANTONIO INSTEAD OF SPEND THE NIGHT IN THOSE -- IN A PLACE -- THAT DIDN'T EXIST 10 OR 15 YEARS AGO.

HERE'S THE OTHER INTERESTING TEETER TOTTER THAT WE CAME ACROSS, THIS ISSUE OF CONSTRAINTS AND IMPACTS.

IF WE WERE TO MOVE THE AIRPORT NORTH TO ADDRESS THE GROWING DEMAND IN THE AUSTIN/SAN ANTONIO CORRIDOR, TO BE CLOSER TO SOME OF THOSE NEW PASSENGERS, WE, IN FACT, WOULD RUN THE RISK OF [INDISCERNIBLE] WHERE THE AIRLINES MIGHT PERCEIVE THEMSELVES TO BE ABLE TO SERVICE BOTH MARKETS FROM AUSTIN.

IF WE MOVED IT SOUTH, THE PASSENGERS MIGHT BE DRIVEN NORTH.

SO THAT'S OUR INTERESTING -- WHAT WE FOUND, I THINK IT'S INTERESTING REALITY IS BOTH THE AIRLINES AND THE PASSENGERS CAN VOTE WITH THEIR FEET AND WITH THEIR DOLLARS.

THAT'S THE GOOD AND BAD OF THAT PROXIMITY ISSUE THAT WE'VE GOT.

HERE ARE THE OTHER THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND.

THE HIGH COST OF BUILDING AN AIRPORT IS MEASURED IN MID BILLIONS TO HIGH BILLIONS.

THE NUMBERS ARE PROBABLY -- I MEAN, CONSERVATIVELY, FOUR TO FIVE -- IMEN, IF YOU SOLVE THE FUNDING AND LAND PROBLEM, THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDIES, THE FAA APPROVAL PROCESS -- THAT PROCESS ALONE WOULD TAKE 20 YEARS AND PROBABLY WOULD OUTSTRETCH MOST OF OUR PROFESSIONAL LIVES. WE WOULD NOT SEE THE FRUITS OF OUR LABORS IN OUR PROFESSIONAL LIFETIMES IN ALL LIKELIHOOD.

THE OTHER THING IS THE AIRPORTS HAVE TO FEEL THE PAIN.

AND THEY DON'T.

THEY DO IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY.

AND PRESSURING THE REGIONAL AUTHORITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES IN CERTAIN INSTANCES TO EXPAND.

THEY'RE NOT DOING THAT HERE.

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THEY'RE DOING THAT IN PLACES LIKE SALT LAKE AND OTHER PLACES, SALT LAKE WITH DELTA, AND IN MANY INSTANCES FEEL THE PAIN SO MUCH THAT THEY'RE HELPING COFUND THAT TERMINAL EXPANSION.

SO IF THERE'S NO PERCEIVED PROBLEM WITH THE FAA AND THERE'S NO PERCEIVED PROBLEM FROM THE AIRLINE SIDE, THE FUNDING WOULD ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY FALL ON US TO COVER.

SO THE OTHER THING IS LAND, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN FIVE AND 6,00K REALESTICLY.

I MEAN, GOOD LUCK TRYING TO FIND FIVE TO 6,000 ACRES THIS DAY AND AGE IN THE FASTEST GROWING PARTS OF OUR RIDERSHIP.

I MENTIONED THE COST NUMBERS.

WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY DO -- IN AUDIO] -- SCENARIO-BASED PLANNING THOSE NUMBERS OUT, BUT I THINK THOSE ARE REASONABLE NUMBERS AND I THINK THEY'RE THE BEST GUESS, BEST ESTIMATE THAT THE TEAM, THE CONSULTANTS HAVE COME UP WITH, AND FAR OUTSTRIP, YOU KNOW, OTHER OPTIONS.

SO LET'S GO INTO THE WILL IT FIT PRELIMINARY FINDING, AND PROBABLY A GOOD TIME TO TAKE A PAUSE AND ASK -- SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE JUMP INTO THAT? OKAY.

SO HERE'S OUR CURRENT RUNWAY AND AIRPORT FACILITY, AND JUST A COUPLE OF FACTS HERE.

THE MAIN RUNWAY IS RUNWAY 13, WHICH COMES FROM THE NORTHWEST TO THE NORTH EAST.

ABOUT 85% OF THE TRAVEL -- AIRCRAFT FLY IN AND OUT OF RUNWAY 13.

ONLY 50% GO THROUGH THE RUNWAY THAT GOES OVER THE NORTHEAST.

AND SO THAT IS PART OF THE DAILY WINDS AND A VARIETY OF OTHER CONSTRAINTS DICTATE THAT, BUT THAT'S REALITY.

SO WE'VE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY DON'T YOU JUST EXTEND RUNWAY 422, THAT WOULDN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE FORCING EVERY AIRCRAFT INTO A MORE DANGEROUS CROSSWIND LANDING.

AND, OH, BY THE WAY, MOST OF THAT AIR TRAVEL GO INTO THE BUSIEST AIRSPACE INTO THE REGION WHICH IS NEAR RANDOLPH BASE AND 1604.

FOR A PRIMARY OF REASON, THAT'S THE RUNWAY OF CHOICE, 13.

FUTURE AIR DEMAND, THIS IS WHERE IT REALLY GETS INTERESTING.

OUR AIR DEMAND IS GOING UP, AND IT'S GOING UP -- THESE ARE CONSERVATIVE NUMBERS, AS I MENTIONED, WSP CAME UP WITH THAT HAVE BEEN VALIDATED TODAY BY THE FAA.

THAT'S AS GOOD AS NUMBERS AS YOU'RE GOING TO GET.

COMPARED TO OTHER REGIONS LIKE AUSTIN, COLUMBUS, HOUSTON HOBBY, THESE ARE REALLY APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON HERE.

SACRAMENTO IS ANOTHER ONE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE DOING WELL, BUT SO IS EVERYBODY ELSE, AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE LONG-TERM FINANCING, LONG-TERM GROWTH OF THE AIRPORT, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THESE TYPES OF NUMBERS.

HERE'S A GROWTH FORECAST.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE 20-YEAR FORECAST THAT WE SUBMITTED TO THE FAA, THE CONSERVATIVE FIRST 1.6, BUT THAT'S OVER EVERY SINGLE YEAR, AND THAT IS -- OBVIOUSLY COMPOUNDS.

WHAT WE REALLY LOOKED AT, WE LOOKED AT THAT AND WE LOOKED AT THE HIGHER END, WHICH IS THE 2.3%, THAT SEEMS LIKE A LOW NUMBER EXCEPT YOU HAVE TO COUNT FOR THE COMPOUNDING FACTOR IN THAT.

AND WHAT WE ALSO LEARNED IS THAT -- WELL, WE SUBMITTED IS A NUMBER THAT, AGAIN, THE FAA JUST VALIDATED TODAY, AND WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND FILTER THAT BACK INTO OUR -- OUR ANALYSIS, BUT WHAT IT DICTATES IS A COUPLE THINGS: NUMBER ONE, WE KEPT TALKING ABOUT THAT WE HAD ALMOST UNLIMITED CAPACITY AT THE AIRFIELD.

THAT WAS PROBABLY MY NAY EVETY THAN ANYTHING ELSE, BECAUSE IF YOU FLY OUT OF SAN ANTONIO INTERNATIONAL, YOU'RE NOT NUMBER SEVEN OR EIGHT OR NINE ON TAXI LIKE YOU ARE OUT OF OTHER AIRPORTS; HOWEVER, WHAT WE RECOGNIZED IS THE WAY THAT WITH THAT GROWTH CURVE THAT WE EXPERIENCE, ESSENTIALLY AT THE 80% MARK, AND THIS IS WHAT THIS CHART SHOWS YOU, THAT ONCE YOU HIT ABOUT AN 80% CAPACITY, THE LIKELIHOOD OF SLOWDOWNS DRAMATICALLY INCREASES EXPONENTIALLY INCREASES.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS BECAUSE OF THE LONG LEAD TIME FOR AIRFIELD AND RUNWAY CONSTRUCTION AND IMPACT STUDIES AND ALL THAT, ESSENTIALLY WE ARE IN -- WE HAVE A CAPACITY ISSUE COMING UP VERY QUICKLY THAT WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS IF YOU LOOK AT OUR FUTURE GROWTH THAT AT TWO DIFFERENT TIMES WE'RE GOING TO HIT CAPACITY.

AT 2023, WHICH IS, I MEAN, FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.

IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S WAY OFF IN THE DISTANCE, THAT'S FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.

AND THEN 2039, WHICH IS ALSO NOT THAT FAR.

I PLAN TO STILL BE AROUND.

AND THE CHALLENGES, AS I MENTIONED, THE LONG LEAD TIMES FOR CONSTRUCTIONS.

SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, WHAT WE'VE RECOMMENDED IS A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE IS WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO

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EXTEND AND TO ADD CAPACITY BY ADDING A PARALLEL RUNWAY TO RUNWAY 13. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A PARALLEL RUNWAY THAT IS ABOUT -- CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, ABOUT 5,000 FEET? 5500, THAT IS NEXT TO RUNWAY 13.

IF YOU SEE THAT RIGHT HERE, THAT PRIMARILY SERVICES GENERAL AVIATION AND WILL -- THE GOOD NEWS IS IS THAT IT DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE EXPANDED WITH MINIMAL LAND ACQUISITION, AND IF YOU LOOK AT OUR GATE CAPACITY AS WELL, RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT 24 GATES THAT WE THINK THE HIGH NUMBER WE'LL NEED 35 GATES BY 2038.

THAT'S ASSUMING NO OTHER CHANGES IN TECHNOLOGY, WHICH IS PROBABLY PERHAPS A NAIVE ASSUMPTION, BUT IT'S THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH HERE.

SO LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.

AGAIN, ANECDOTICALLY IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE OUR TERMINAL FACILITIES ARE, WE HAVE CAPACITY ON BOTH THE RIGHT AND LEFT SIDE OF TERMINAL A AND TERMINAL B.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, RENTAL CAR FACILITY CONSOLIDATION, WE HAVE SUBSTANTIAL REAL ESTATE CAPACITY IN THE ENTIRE FACILITY.

COMPARE THAT AGAIN WITH LAGUARDIA, I WOULD SAY CHICAGO MIDWAY, BURBANK.

I FLEW RECENTLY OUT OF SAN JOSE, THERE IS SIMPLY NO LAND ANYWHERE WHERE THEY HAVE -- THEY HAVE NO VIABLE OPTIONS.

SO WE HAVE OPTIONS FOR NEW FACILITIES, TERMINAL FACILITIES ON THE SOUTH.

WE ALSO HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO RELOCATE CERTAIN BUSINESSES, IF WE NEED TO.

THIS IS STUFF -- THIS IS A FACILITY THAT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO OWNS.

WE DON'T HAVE TO ACQUIRE IT.

WE OWN IT.

AND WE'RE THE LANDLORDS, SO THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PRELIMINARY CONCLUSIONS.

AND I -- YOU KNOW, RUSS, IF YOU WANT TO ADD TO THIS, THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE IS THAT PARALLEL RUNWAY WOULD LAST US FOR MAYBE -- IT WOULD BUY US ABOUT ANOTHER 15 YEARS.

THE CHALLENGES THAT THOSE TWO RUNWAYS CANNOT BE RUN ENDLY.

THEY'RE CALLED PARALLEL DEPENDENT.

WHICH MEANS YOU CAN TAKE OFF AND LAND, BUT IN BAD WEATHER CONDITIONS YOU CAN'T TAKE OFF AND LAND AT THE SAME TIME, SO THAT'S A HUGE CONSTRAINT.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT ESSENTIALLY YOU'VE GOT -- WE COULD -- WE'LL HAVE SOME INCREMENTAL CAPACITY THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD AND BUY WITH A -- WITH EXTENDING RUNWAY 13 LEFT.

THAT'S THAT SMALL RUNWAY.

BUT THE REALITY IS IN ORDER TO FIT TO 2068 WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND, WHAT'S CALLED PARALLEL INDEPENDENT RUNWAY AND THAT PUTS UT OUTSIDE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE CURRENT FACILITY.

THAT PUTS US INTO THE SOUTH OF WURZBACH PARKWAY, AND WHEN THE CONSULTANTS RECOMMENDED IT, WE RECOGNIZED FULLY THAT THERE ARE EXISTING BUSINESSES THERE AND EXISTING PROPERTIES, BUT WE ALSO, YOU KNOW, LOOKED AT THIS VERSUS GOING TO AND TRYING TO ACQUIRE FIVE TO 6,000 ACRES ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, ON OUR OWN.

WE THOUGHT WHATEVER RECOMMENDATION HERE WOULD BE COMPARED TO THAT, WE HAD TO REMIND OURSELVES THROUGHOUT.

SO THE INTERESTING THING HERE IS WE DO HAVE A CAPACITY WITH THAT LAND ACQUISITION TO SERVICE THE COMMUNITY THROUGH 2068.

IT ALSO PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY, IF WE WERE TO GO DOWN THAT PARTICULAR PATH WITH A PARALLEL INDEPENDENT RUNWAY TO DO A MIDFIELD TERMINAL FACILITY, A COMPLETELY BRAND-NEW FACILITY IF WE WANTED TO, TO BE SERVICED ON EITHER SIDE WITH PARALLEL RUNWAYS.

THAT IS REALLY A SCENARIO, IT'S AN OPTION -- IT'S NOT AN OPTION THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING, BUT IT'S AN OPTION.

AND THE POINT HERE IS BECAUSE OF THE LAND THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE THAT OPTION.

WE HAVE NOT ONLY TO BUILD A NEW FACILITIES, NEW TERMINALS AROUND THE FOOTPRINT WHERE TERMINAL A AND B IS, IF WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO HAVE TWO PARALLEL RUNWAYS IN A COMPLETELY NEW TERMINAL FACILITY IN THE MIDDLE.

SO TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, YES, IT DOES FIT.

AND THAT'S THROUGH THE CONTEXT OF ALL THE OTHER CONSTRAINTS THAT WE HAVE, THE REALITY OF FISCAL FUNDING AND THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE TREMENDOUS TIMELINE AND APPROVALS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GENERATOR AND CAN BE, AND EVERYONE ON THE COMMITTEE FOCUSED, YOU KNOW, ON THAT AS WELL.

SO THIS IS NOT -- ON OUR END, THIS IS A VERY STRONG RECOMMENDATION TO ACCOMMODATE THE FUTURE GROWTH THAT WE'VE GOT HERE, GIVEN WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE, AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A STRENGTH, WHICH IS THE LOCATION.

I JUST WANT TO PASS ON A LOVE

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STORY.

DFW WAS BUILT IN THE EARLY '70S, AND IN ORDER TO GET THE FUNDING AND FOR FORT WORTH TO CLOSE DOWN THEIR AIRPORT THEY HAD TO GET AN ACT OF CONGRESS PASSED BY THEN SPEAKER JIM WRIGHT.

IT'S CALLED THE WRIGHT AMENDMENT.

WHAT IT SAID WAS THE CITY OF DALLAS COULD NOT FLY OUT OF DALLAS LOVE EXCEPT FOR CONTIGUOUS STATES.

SO ALMOST MY ENTIRE PROFESSIONAL LIFETIME, IF YOU FLEW OUT OF DALLAS LUV ON SOUTHWEST, YOU COULD ONLY FLY OUT OF DENVER, ARKANSAS, THAT WAS IT.

YOU COULDN'T FLY ONE STEP FURTHER.

THAT AMENDMENT WENT AWAY JUST VERY RECENTLY AND THE FIRST THING THAT DALLAS DID AND SOUTHWEST WAS TO DOUBLE-DOWN AND BUILD ON LUV, BECAUSE THE FACT IS IF YOU LIVE IN DALLAS, AND I HAVE LIVED IN DALLAS, IT'S A LOT EASIER TO GET TO DALLAS LUV THAN IT IS TO GET TO DFW.

AND GIVEN THE OPTION, PEOPLE IN DALLAS RATHER DRIVE TO DALLAS LUV.

SO, AGAIN, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A CLOSE-IN AIRPORT, FACILITY IS ONE OF THE KEY STRENGTHS.

SO NEXT STEPS IS TO MOVE TON TO PHASE 2 WHICH ARE REALLY THE HOW'S AND WHEREFORES OF WHAT THIS NEW PHASE LOOKS LIKE, AND WITH THAT WE HAVE TIME FOR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JOHN, FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU TO ALL THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO ARE HERE TODAY AND WHO SPENT A LOT OF HOURS WORKING ON THIS PROJECT.

I THINK IT'S OBVIOUSLY WORK WELL DONE, WORK'S STILL CONTINUING, RUSS, THANK YOU ALSO FOR YOUR STAFF SUPPORT AS WELL, AND FRANCISCO FOR FACILITATING THE ENTIRE PROCESS.

THIS WHOLE EFFORT BEGAN BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THIS QUESTION HANGING OVER US FOR DECADES NOW ABOUT SHOULD WE OR SHOULDN'T WE IN TERMS OF BUILDING A NEW AIRPORT, AND IT'S BEEN A MUCH-DEBATED TOPIC WITH NOT A WHOLE LOT OF DATA BEHIND IT.

AND EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN HYPOTHESES, MINE HAS ALWAYS BEEN IT'S A STRATEGIC COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE FOR US AS ONE OF THE LARGEST CITIES IN AMERICA TO HAVE AN INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT ABOUT 15 MINUTES AWAY TO ANY POINT THAT PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO TRAVEL HERE AND FROM.

BEFORE WE WERE TO GO HEADLONG INTO WHAT HAS BEEN ONE OF OUR WEAKNESSES, OUR AIRPORT, WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT QUESTION AND FIND AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION WITH SOME REAL DATA.

SO THANK YOU, JOHN, FOR GOING THROUGH THIS IN A VERY METHODICAL WAY.

I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS AND A FEW THINGS I WANTED TO UNDERSCORE.

THE FIRST THING, YOU SAID IT A COUPLE TIMES, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD.

YOU SAID THE FAA NUMBERS WERE VALIDATED TODAY; IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES.

SIGNED OFF TODAY.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: OKAY.

SO THAT MEANS THE DEMAND NUMBERS, THE DEMAND PROJECTIONS HAVE BEEN REUPDATED, SO THEY'RE NO LONGER 2016 NUMBERS, THEY'RE 2018 NUMBERS.

>> NO.

THOSE ARE REAL, AS OF TODAY.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: OKAY.

GREAT.

WITH REGARD TO FAA AND FEDERAL FUNDING, THEREFORE WE COULD BEGIN -- AS YOU GO INTO PHASE 2 IN IDENTIFYING, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE SCENARIOS FOR ACTUALLY BUILDING AND DEVELOPING ON THIS BLUEPRINT, WE CAN BEGIN TO GET SOME CERTAINTY AROUND WHAT TYPES OF FEDERAL FUNDING WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO US, BASED ON THAT DEMAND DATA, VIS A VIS OTHER CITIES?

>> UH-HUH, YES.

SO THAT IS ONE OF THE MANY DIFFERENT FACETS FOR PHASE 2, FUNDING CONSTRAINTS, WHAT WOULD THE NEXT FACILITY LOOK LIKE, WHAT OTHER STREAMS? AND REALLY, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE QUOTE, UNQUOTE, THE FUN PART IS FLESHING OUT WHAT IT COULD BE, WHAT IT SHOULD BE FOR THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, 10 TO 20 YEARS.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: OKAY.

GREAT.

YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE THING WAS -- THIS WHOLE EFFORT, A COUPLE THINGS I WANT TO SAY, SO THAT PEOPLE ARE INTENDED TO QUESTION ALL OF OUR ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT THE AIRPORT.

I STILL REMEMBER THE FIRST BRIEFING THAT GENERAL HANDY GAVE TO CITY COUNCIL WHEN HE CAME ON BOARD, AND HE TOLD THE CITY COUNCIL, I THINK IN 2016, THAT THE AIRPORT IN SAN ANTONIO IS NOT LANDLOCKED.

I HOPE THAT SINKS IN FOR EVERYONE.

TH WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW MUCH LAND WOULD NEED TO BE ACQUIRED IF WE WERE TO DO ONE OF THE BUILDOUT SCENARIOS.

IT PALES IN COMPARISON TO ONE OF THE ACQUISITION WE WOULD NEED IF WE WERE TO BUILD AN ENTIRELY NEW AIRPORT.

SO THE FIRST AND MOST IMPORTANT FACT GOING INTO THIS FOR ME WAS WE DO HAVE OPTIONS IN TERMS OF THE GROUND, THE AIRFIELD AND TERMINAL CAPACITY AVAILABLE TO US.

I APPRECIATE THE OTHER INPUTS THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF LOSS PROJECTED DEMAND, IF WE WERE TO MOVE TO A NORTH OR

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A SOUTH AIRPORT BASED ON THE OTHER AVAILABLE OPTIONS TO AIR TRAVELERS.

THE QUESTION I HAVE TO WRAP UP, THOUGH, HAS TO DO WITH THE RUNWAYS.

THERE IS AN INDEPENDENT RUNWAY, PARALLEL RUNWAY SCENARIO AND THERE'S A DEPENDENT RUNWAY SCENARIO.

IN THE INDEPENDENT SCENARIO, IN WHICH CASE BOTH RUNWAYS COULD OPERATE AUTONOMOUSLY, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO AN ACQUISITION ON THE NORTH END OF THE AIRPORT?

>> LET ME INVITE GENERAL HANDY UP TO BETTER ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

>> HANDY: CORRECT.

YES, MAYOR, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE -- THAT AREA THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY IDENTIFIED HISTORICALLY AS A POTENTIAL FOR LAND ACQUISITION IN THE FUTURE, IT'S REALLY JUST REVALIDATED THAT.

AND WURZBACH PARKWAY WAS DESIGNED AND BUILT -- IT WAS BUILT WITH THE OPTION OF HAVING THAT TYPE OF AN INDEPENDENT PARALLEL.

THAT'S WHY IT'S GOT KIND OF A HOOK ON THE END OF IT.

SO THAT PARCEL OF LAND, IN ADDITION TO SOME CLEAR ZONES OFF THE END OF THE RUNWAY, THAT YOU SEE NOW OFF THE END OF THE EXISTING RUNWAY WOULD NEED TO BE ACQUIRED OVER TIME.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: OKAY.

BUT BOTH OF THOSE SCENARIOS, THE INDEPENDENT AND THE DEPENDENT RUNWAY SCENARIO ARE -- WOULD ADDRESS THE AIRPORT NEEDS BASED ON THIS DATA OUT THROUGH 2068, THE 50-YEAR SCENARIO?

>> HANDY: CORRECT.

AND AS JOHN SAID, THE FUN PART WILL BE PHASE 2 AS WE START TO ACTUALLY DRAW RUNWAYS AND LOOK AT PRECISELY HOW LONG AND WHERE THEY WOULD GO AND WHAT KIND OF CAPACITY IT WOULD GIVE US AND WHAT SORT OF FAA, YOU KNOW, CONCURRENCE WE COULD GET.

IT COULD BE PHASED, SO THERE COULD BE A POTENTIAL TO GO WITH ONE OPTION WITH AN INNING THE FORECAST OVER TIME AND MAYBE PHASING INTO THE INDEPENDENT PARALLEL, SO THE DEPENDENT PARALLEL, OUR ESTIMATE, IT WOULD LIKELY GIVE US SOMEWHERE IN THE 20 TO 25-YEAR RANGE FROM TODAY, FROM RIGHT NOW.

I'M A LITTLE BIT FUZZY ON THAT BECAUSE WHAT WE'D DO IN ADDITION TO THAT WAS IMPROVE THE EFFICIENCY OF OUR EXISTING RUNWAY, PERHAPS MORE HIGH-SPEED TAXI WAYS, THE FAA IS COMING ON BOARD WITH NEW TECHNOLOGY FOR NAVIGATION, WHICH I THINK WILL ALSO INCREASE THAT CAPACITY.

WE DIDN'T FIGURE ANY OF THAT IN.

THAT 2039 NUMBER WAS A WORST CASE THAT WE ASKED THE TEAM TO MAP OUT, KNOWING WITH SOME OF THOSE OTHER ENHANCEMENTS WE COULD GET FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD WITH THAT DEPENDENT PARALLEL.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: OKAY.

AND I GUESS IT'S MADE ALL THE MORE REAL BECAUSE THAT MANDATE IS BASED ON WHAT WE'RE ALREADY EXPERIENCING IN SAN ANTONIO, AND I THINK PEOPLE READILY RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT WE'VE HAD NOW 27 STRAIGHT MONTHS IS THAT RIGHT OF RECORD PASSENGER GROWTH? SO IT'S NO LONGER -- I THINK WE'VE DEBUNKED THE MYTH THAT THE AIRPORT IS THE REASON FOR ECONOMIC NONCOMPETITIVENESS IN THE COMMUNITY.

IN FACT, IT'S THE AIRPORT WHERE OUR COMPETITIVENESS CAN BE MEASURED.

AND SO WITH ALL THE GROWTH OF NEW MARKETS AND NONSTOPS AND DIRECT ACTIVITY, I THINK PEOPLE ARE SEEING THAT AS PARALLEL TO KIND OF THE JOB CREATION EFFORTS THAT ARE GOING ON IN OUR ECONOMY RIGHT NOW.

I'M GLAD TO GET TO THE NEXT STEPS.

JOHN, MY LAST QUESTION, I GUESS, FOR THE ENTIRE COMMITTEE WOULD BE, WHAT'S GOING ON IN TERMS OF PUBLIC OUTREACH TO KIND OF GET COMMENT -- THIS NEW EFFORT.

>> WELL, IMEN THIS IS COMPRESSED -- AGAIN, THIS IS COMPRESSED BECAUSE WE HAD THE FAA-FUNDED STUDY WHICH HAD TO BE DONE AND HAD TO BE FOLLOWED WITH A CERTAIN METHODOLOGY.

RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IS GOING TO CATCH OUR BREATH AFTER THIS.

YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO GET THIS QUESTION ANSWERED.

AND TO GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG, HOW MANY TIMES WE HAVE TO MEET, SIT DOWN WITH THE CONSULTANTS, SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND LEADERSHIP AND COUNCIL AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT LENGTH OF TIME IS, I THINK ONE THING WE RECOGNIZE IS THAT WE DID -- WE DO NEED TO DO MORE OUTREACH, WE DO NEED TO SIT DOWN WITH INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

IT WAS JUST A VERY COMPRESSED TIME FRAME.

AND AS SOON AS THE CAT GOT OUT OF THE BOUND, THERE'S BEEN NO SHORTAGE OF INBOUNDS.

I WILL SAY THIS, WE ARE VERY AWARE OF THAT RECOMMENDATION FOR THE NORTH PART OF THE AIRPORT.

I'VE GOTTEN NO SHORTAGE OF CALLS ON THAT AS WELL.

I WILL SAY, KEEP IN MIND THAT IS COMPARED TO A REALLY THREE TO FOUR TO FIVE TO $6 BILLION ACQUISITION, WHICH IS COMPLETELY THEORETICAL, ASSUMING YOU FOUND AN AREA AND THEN FOUND WILLING SELLERS.

ONE OF OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS, GENERAL SALINAS WHO ISN'T WITH US TODAY IS THE CEO OF THE GIRL SCOUTS OF THE REGION AND THEY'RE IN THE FOOTPRINT, SO WE RECOGNIZE THAT.

WE RECOGNIZE THAT AND ANGIE AND CREW FIGURED THAT OUT WHEN WE GOT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO IT'S NOT WITHOUT DEEP THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.

BUT THE ALTERNATIVES ARE JUST SIMPLY NOT VIABLE.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: YEAH.

OKAY.

WELL, IT'S GREAT WORK.

I ALWAYS REMIND PEOPLE ABOUT THE

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CONVERSATION IN THE COMMUNITY AFTER AT&T LEFT, THE TWO REASONS THAT WE HEARD MOST OFTEN COME UP WERE WATER AND THE AIRPORT.

AND I'M VERY PROUD IN THIS COMMUNITY, WE'VE STRATEGICALLY ATTACKED BOTH ISSUES.

ONE WITH REGARD TO LONG-TERM WATER SECURITY, DIVERSIFICATION PORTFOLIO, SO WE CAN SAY IN THE FASTEST GROWING CITY IN THE COUNTRY, WE WILL HAVE WATER IN 50 YEARS FOR BUSINESS AND RESIDENCE AND SO FORTH.

THIS IS THE SAME PARALLEL EFFORT IN MY MIND AS FAR AS ADDRESSING WHAT HAS BEEN PERCEIVED AS A WEAKNESS FOR US IN TERMS OF AIR SERVICE CAPACITY.

I HAS BEEN A MYTH, THOUGH, THAT IT'S THE CAUSE OF OUR ECONOMIC ISSUES.

HOWEVER, WE SEE THROUGH THE DATA.

IT'S CLEAR AS DAY THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS THIS NOW, AND THERE'S NOT TIME TO WASTE BECAUSE WITHIN THE FIVE AND THE 25-YEAR SCENARIOS, WE WILL HAVE CAPACITY PROBLEMS IF WE DON'T ADDRESS THEM.

SO I'M VERY PLEASED WITH THE WORK.

LOOK FORWARD TO THE PHASE 2 DEVELOPING, AND LOOKING FORWARD TO MY COLLEAGUE'S COMMENTS AS WELL.

SO MY IPAD SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING SO I DON'T SEE ANYBODY CUED IN.

I DO KNOW THAT COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN HAS, SO I'LL START WITH HER.

IF I CAN JUST GET EVERYBODY TO SIGNAL ME IF THEY -- WHY DON'T WE START WITH COUNCILMAN COURAGE THEN, SINCE IT'S YOUR DISTRICT.

>> COURAGE: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

I WANT TO COMMEND THE COMMITTEE WORK, TOO.

YOU KNOW, I'LL TELL YOU A FUNNY STORY.

WHEN I HEARD THE COMMITTEE WAS BEING FORMED, I ASKED THE MAYOR, MAYOR, HOW COME YOU DIDN'T ASK ME IF I WANTED TO BE APPOINTED TO THE COMMITTEE? HE SAID COUNCILMAN COURAGE, THIS IS NOT POLITICAL.

AND I COMMEND THE FACT THAT THIS WASN'T A POLITICAL EFFORT.

IT WAS DEFINITELY SET OUT TO LOOK AT THE STRATEGIC AND THE ECONOMIC INTERESTS OF THE CITY GOING FORWARD.

AND I THINK YOU'VE LOOKED AT THAT VERY WELL.

I APPRECIATE THE FACT THEY'VE BEEN BRIEFED ON THE ORIGINL FINDINGS THAT YOU HAVE.

AND I AGREE WITH THEM.

I'VE LIVED IN THE SPHI -- THE CITY FOR 47 YEARS.

WHEN I ARRIVED IN THE CITY, IT WAS IN THAT AIRPORT.

AND IT'S CHANGED A LOT.

BUT ALSO I'VE HAD THE ABILITY TO VISIT OTHER AIRPORTS AS ALL OF US HAVE, SO THERE'S A LOT TO COMPARE OURSELVES TO.

I BELIEVE THE OUTLINE OF THE PLANS THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING FIT INTO WHAT THE MAYOR'S POINTED OUT AS THE THE VALUABLE NATURE OF HAVING AN AIRPORT THAT'S 10 MINUTES FROM DOWNTOWN AND 20 MINUTES FROM JUST ABOUT ANY PLACE ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO GO IN THIS CITY, AND I THINK IT'S OBVIOUSLY SMART TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.

I THINK THAT WILL CONTINUE TO ATTRACT MORE BUSINESS, MORE VISITORS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

I RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY FOR EXPANSION THAT MAY INCLUDE GOING OUTSIDE OF THE CURRENT BOUNDARIES OF THE AIRPORT, LOOKING AT LAND ACQUISITION TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS WITHIN MY DISTRICT.

I HOPE THAT AS WE CONSIDER THIS WE THINK OF A COUPLE OF THINGS, AND ONE IS, WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE EFFECT OF RELOCATING ALL OF THOSE BUSINESSES? IT'S ONE THING TO SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, WE NEED YOUR LAND, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THE VALUE IS AND THIS IS WHAT WE'LL PAY YOU FOR IT, AND, YOU KNOW, GOD BLESS YOU AFTER THAT.

I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY CONSIDER HOW DO WE HELP IN ANY POTENTIAL RELOCATION THAT WE MAY DECIDE WE NEED TO MAKE IN ORDER TO HAVE TWO INDEPENDENT RUNWAYS.

AT THE SAME TIME, SINCE I'VE BEEN ON CITY COUNCIL, AND I'M SURE MY PRESS SES SORES HEARD -- PREDECESSORS HEARD THIS FROM LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF DISTRICT, IN MY DISTRICT, IN DISTRICT 10, MAYBE EVEN IN DISTRICT 1 WHO LIVE RELATIVELY CLOSE TO THE AIRPORT WHO HAVE HAD TO LIVE WITH THE SOUNDS OF THE AIRPORT, I DON'T LIVE THAT CLOSE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU EVERY MORNING AT ABOUT 6:00, I HEAR ENGINES REVVING UP AT THE AIRPORT.

AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING I WANT US TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.

YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THIS AFFECT NOT ONLY THE TRAVELERS, BUT THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF FAMILIES WHO LIVE AROUND THE AIRPORT? ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS THAT I'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE IS, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS AGO THEY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THE AIRPORT WAS AS NOISY AS IT IS TODAY.

I WAS TALKING TO RUSS ABOUT THAT, AND THAT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE TODAY WE HAVE SO MANY MORE CARGO SERVICE FLIGHTS GOING IN AND OUT OF SAN ANTONIO.

THEY NEVER USED TO FLY BEFORE 6:00 IN THE MORNING OR AFTER 8:00 OR 9:00 AT NIGHT.

NOW THEY'RE TAKING OFF AND LANDING AT 4:00 IN THE MORNING OR 5:00 IN THE MORNING AND THEY'RE FLYING UNTIL 11:00 OR MIDNIGHT.

AND IF WE'RE LOOKING AT AN EXPANDING AIRPORT OVER THE NEXT 20 OR 30 YEARS, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR INCREASED FLIGHTS TO LANDING AND TAKEOFF AREAS AND THE WIDER PATTERNS FOR LANDING

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AND TAKING OFF, AND HOW WILL THAT AFFECT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AROUND THE AIRPORT? I REALLY THINK IT'S VALUABLE, IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER THOSE FLIGHT PATTERNS AS WE DEVELOP THIS SO THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WE DON'T HAVE TO TERRIBLY INCONVENIENCE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN LIVING IN OUR COMMUNITIES FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

MANY OF THEM USE THE AIRPORT, BUT THEY USE IT ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR, BUT THEY HAVE TO LIVE WIT THE NOISE ALL AROUND IT 24/7.

AND SO AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, I REALLY HOPE THAT BECOMES AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION.

I KNOW YOU HEAR IT WHEN YOU GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY.

I WANT US TO BE THINKING ABOUT IT EVEN AHEAD OF TIME.

BUT I THINK IT'S A GREAT OUTLINE OF A PLAN, AND I'M REAL SUPPORTIVE OF THE DIRECTION WE SEEM TO BE HEADING IN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN COURAGE.

COUNCILMAN SALDAÑA?

>> SALDAÑA: THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND, JOHN, I THINK YOU AND THE REST OF THE GROUP HAVE DONE A PRETTY GREAT JOB OF, IN A SENSE, BEING THE FIRST IN THE CITY AS THIS CONVERSATION IS GETTING BEYOND JUST THE COMMITTEE, BUT THE FIRST IN THE AVALANCHE OF PEOPLE GETTING SMARTER ABOUT WHAT EXISTS AT OUR CURRENT AIRPORT IN TERMS OF OPPORTUNITY FOR EXPANSION AND WHAT CHALLENGES MAY EXIST IN THAT FUTURE AS WE LOOK AT THAT TRAVEL DEMAND SPIKE GO UP, WHICH WILL NECESSITATE SOME ACTION FROM AIRPORT DESIGNERS, THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND AT THE END OF IT, WHAT WE WANT IS A COMMUNITY THAT NODS THEIR HEAD IN AGREEMENT TO SAY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS WORTHWHILE FOR THE CITY AND CAN BE INTERESTED IN.

SO I'M GOING TO ASK MAYBE TWO OR THREE QUESTIONS, BUT AT THE END OF IT, I'LL ASK A BROADER QUESTION, WHICH IS -- AND I WANT YOU ALL TO PERCOLATE ON IT, BUT THE QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, WHY IS IT THAT THE GENERAL SAN ANTONIO RESIDENTS, SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T USE THE AIRPORT AS MUCH SHOULD CARE ABOUT THIS AND SHOULD CARE ABOUT US THINKING WELL AHEAD OF IT, WHETHER IT'S ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT REASONS OR IT'S ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM OR LOWER COST FLIGHTS.

THINK ABOUT THAT AS I GET TO IT.

BUT THE ONE TAKEAWAY THAT I HAD THROUGH THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, THAT I HOPE YOU'LL SPEAK OUT LOUD ABOUT, MAYBE IT'S RUSS, MAYBE IT'S JOHN ON THIS, IT FOLDS AROUND THE TECHNOLOGY TRANSFORMATION, MAKING SOME INVESTMENTS, IN SO M WAYS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF WHAT THE FUTURE MAY HOLD IN TERMS OF AIR TRAVEL, HOW BIG PLANES -- OR HOW BIG OF A RUNWAY NEEDS TO BE TO ACCOMMODATE.

AND SO JUST A FEW YEARS AGO, I CAN RECALL CONVERSATIONS WHERE FOLKS SAID THAT THE LANDLOCKED CONVERSATION BECAME A REALLY SIMPLE STATEMENT.

IT SAID WE'RE LANDLOCKED BECAUSE PLANES NEED LONGER RUNWAYS IN ORDER -- THEY'RE GETTING LARGER, THEY'VE GOT AIRBUSES THAT CAN DO MUCH LARGER CAPACITY PER TRAVEL, BUT I THINK THE TECHNOLOGY MAY HAVE CHANGED THAT CONVERSATION.

SO RUSS OR JOHN, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT A LONGER RUNWAY ISN'T NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT'S NECESSARY FOR EXPANSION OF THIS --

>> I'LL LET THE AVIATOR TACKLE THAT QUESTION FIRST AND THEN I'LL ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION SECOND, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

>> SALDAÑA: OKAY.

>> HANDY: GREAT.

SO THE SHORT ANSWER IS OVER TIME, IT IS THE OPPOSITE; THAT AIRCRAFT ARE REQUIRING LESS RUNWAY BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE POWERFUL, MORE EFFICIENT AND ACTUALLY QUIETER TO A DEGREE.

AND WE EXPECT THAT TREND TO CONTINUE.

ONE OF THE STRATEGIC ADVANTAGES THAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED HERE MULTIPLE TIMES IS THE AIRPORT IS VERY, VERY CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN, MUCH LIKE REAGAN NATIONAL TO WHY WE LOVE TO FLY NONSTOP THERE AND WHY WE'RE FIGHTING SO HARD TO GET THAT.

THAT IS A STRATEGIC ADVANTAGE.

SO AIRPORTS THAT HAVE TO MOVE 2D 12,000-FOOT RUNWAYS DON'T HAVE THAT ADVANTAGE SO AIRCRAFT MANUFACTURERS RECOGNIZE THAT.

SO 787 IS A GREAT EXAMPLE, A 787 WITH MOST LOAD FACTORS INTO WESTERN EUROPE COMFORTABLY, FOR EXAMPLE TODAY.

I WOULDN'T HAVE SAID THAT 15 YEARS AGO.

IT IS TRUE THAT A FULLY LOADED 747 WITH ENOUGH FUEL OR 777 FOR THAT MATTER WITH ENOUGH FUEL TO GO TO ASIA IS NOT FEASIBLE ON AN 85-FOOT RUNWAY.

WE DON'T HAVE THE DEMAND SIGNAL EVEN CLOSE TO NOW THAT AN AIRLINE WOULD CHOOSE IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE TO PICK UP THAT ROUTE, THAT SAID I SUSPECT THAT THOSE KIND OF TRENDS THAT WE'VE SEEN WITH THE LARGER 787S WILL CONTINUE.

IT'S HARD TO QUANTIFY, WE'RE TALKING TO AIRCRAFT MANUFACTURER ABOUT THAT, BUT WE ARE SEEING THAT TREND.

>> SALDAÑA: SO INSIMPLE TERMS, I SUPPOSE THE CONVERSATION HIT A DEAD END, THAT MAKES SENSE IN THE COMMON SENSE CATEGORY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO EXPAND THE AIRPORT, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE POSSIBLE BECAUSE THE LENGTH OF YOUR RUNWAY IS GOING TO BE THE STRONGEST DEAD END THAT YOU'LL RUN INTO, AND YOUR RESPONSE IS THAT IT MAY BE THE OPPOSITE IN THE FUTURE, THAT THE PLANES THAT WE'RE MAKING INTO THE FUTURE MAY NOT NECESSITATE THAT LONG OF A RUNWAY, BUT YOU POINTED OUT AN EXAMPLE THAT MAYBE HAMSTRINGS US, WHICH IS A TRUP -- 777 GOING

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TO EUROPE, MAYBE THAT'S NOT IN OUR WHEEL HOUSE.

>> NOT ANY TIME SOON.

>> AS I SAID, AIRLINES MAKE BUSINESS DECISIONS, WE'VE TALKED TO A LOT OF AIRLINES THAT DEMAND THAT AND THEY'RE VERY SMALL OUT OF SAN ANTONIO TO DATE.

>> SALDAÑA: MAYBE THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS, JOHN, AS YOU COME UP TO ANSWER THE FIRST QUESTION, MAYBE THAT'S A CONVERSATION AS YOU ALL HAVE AS A COMMITTEE, THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE WANT TO BE WHEN WE GROW UP, BE -- BUT WE ALSO KNOW WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO BE.

AND SOME OF THAT IS RESTRICTED BY THE FACT THAT WE HAVE NEIGHBORS.

THEY'VE GOTTEN VERY GOOD AT THE DIRECT FLIGHTS TO LONDON OR TO ASIA.

WHAT KIND OF CONVERSATIONS DO THOSE SOUND LIKE.

>> I WANTED TO MENTION ONE THING, THE PURPOSE OF PHASE 1 AND THE INTERACTION WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WITH COUNCIL IS TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN WITH OUR TEAM AND DEFINE THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR PHASE 2.

AND I WILL SAY ALTHOUGH WE DREW -- YOU KNOW, BUBBLES UP THERE, WE DIDN'T SHOW YOU RUNWAYS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT ANYBODY TO GET THE IMPRESSION WE'D DEVELOPED ALTERNATIVES YET, IT WOULD BE REALISTIC AND IT HAS BEEN EXAMINED IN THE PAST AS A SCOPE OF WORK FOR LONGER RUNWAYS. IT'S NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION.

THERE'S ALL KINDS OF WAYS YOU COULD DO THAT.

THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE THEM TO LOOK AT TO HAVE ON THE SHELF AS AN ALTERNATIVE.

>> THANKS, RUSS.

>> SALDAÑA: SO WHY WOULD MY GRANDMOTHER CARE, WHO'S NEVER FLOWN? WHY WOULD MY UNCLES AND AWPTS CARE? BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT THEIR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS TO MOVE AWAY.

AND BY HAVING A COMPETITIVE AIRPORT AND BY BEING ABLE TO FLY TO MOST PLACES IN THE WORLD, YOU CAN, IN FACT, LIVE HERE AND NOT HAVE TO MOVE TO DALLAS OR DENVER OR CHICAGO.

AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHY THE NONFLYING PUBLIC CARES IN A VERY BROADWAY IS BECAUSE IF WE HAVE A COMPETITIVE AIRPORT, AND WE DO, AND A MORE COMPETITIVE AIRPORT, THE LIKELIHOOD IS THAT YOU CAN BUILD COMPANIES HERE, WORK HERE AND FLY AROUND TO DISTANT PARTS OF THE WORLD.

>> SALDAÑA: THANK YOU, JOHN.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE ALL HAVE TO CONSUME AND UNDERSTAND GOING BACK TO -- AS THIS CONVERSATION BROADENS OUT, HEY, I SAW IT ON THE NEWS, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE AIRPORT, THAT'S THE KIND OF CONVERSATION WE HAVE TO HAVE AT THE BASIC LEVEL WITH COMMUNITY LEVELS ABOUT WHY IT SHOULD MATTER.

SO IF I'M TELLING THEM, HERE'S THE NEXT STEP IN THAT PROCESS, 2023 SEEMS TO BE FLASHED UP THERE AND THAT'S A DATE THAT IS COMING UP RATHER QUICKLY, I WOULD IMAGINE.

SO IF I'M TELLING MYSELF, AS A POLICYMAKER HERE, 2063 IS AROUND THE -- 2023 IS AROUND THE CORNER HERE, THESE THINGS TAKE TIME, WHAT IS THE STEP IN FORMING THE PARALLEL RUNWAY.

>> THE DETAILS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO WORK OUT IN PHASE 2 BECAUSE THERE ARE OPTIONS ABOUT PRE-SIGHSLY WHERE YOU PLACE -- PRECISELY ABOUT WHERE YOU PLACE THAT RUNWAY, THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS AND SOME FLEXIBILITY THERE.

AND I DID WANT TO REEMPHASIZE THAT WE DID WANT TO SHOW WORST CASE WITH REGARD TO 2023.

WHAT 2023 REPRESENTS IS 80% OF OUR CURRENT CAPACITY GIVEN STATUS QUO, GIVEN, YOU KNOW, NO ADDITIONAL HIGH-SPEED TAXI WAYS TO BETTER MAKE THE AIRFIELD THAT WE OWN MORE EFFICIENT WITHOUT PERFORMANCE-BASED NAVIGATION, THIS NEXT GENERATION NAVIGATION SYSTEM THAT THE FAA IS BRINGING ON BOARD, WHICH WILL ALSO INCREASE THE CAPACITY, AND IT'S ALSO NOT A MAGICAL DATE.

IT'S JUST THE POINT IN WHICH WE HIT THAT 80%, AND MAYBE IT WILL BE NUMBER TWO OR NUMBER THREE DURING A PEAK TIME AS OPPOSED TO TAX KIING RIGHT ONTO THE RUNWAY, SO THAT'S THE POINT AT WHICH THE DELAY PAIN STARTS TO INCREASE.

SO IT'S REALLY KIND OF A STARTING POINT WHERE WE NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT IT. AND IF WE HAVE SOME OF THAT EVOLUTION TECHNOLOGY, WE CAN GET A FEW MORE YEARS OUT OF THAT.

THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE PLANNING THOSE ALTERNATIVES, THE SCOPE OF WORK AND THE CONTRACT FOR PHASE 2 WILL COME TO COUNCIL AND WILL OUTLINE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE TEAM TO EXAMINE THROUGHOUT NEXT YEAR.

>> SALDAÑA: AND RUSS AND JOHN, HERE'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION THAT I DON'T THINK I'VE YET GOT MY HANDS AROUND BUT I THINK IT'S ONE THAT MOST FOLKS ARE QUICK ASK.

WHO PAYS FOR IT? WHO PAYS FOR A SECOND AIRPORT? WHO PAYS FOR THE EXPANSION.

LET ME JUST GIVE MY SENSE OF UNDERSTANDING, POKE HOLES WHERE YOU SEE FIT, IF WE WERE TO GO OUT FOR A NEW AIMPT, -- AIRPORT A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE FUNDING COMES FROM THE FAA.

IS THAT THE SAME CASE WHEN WE DO EXPANSION? WHERE DO THOSE MONIES COME FROM? ARE THEY FROM THE GATE FEES, OUR TAXPAYERS IN SAN ANTONIO, IS IT BROADLY THE TAXPAYERS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT?

>> FOR THE FAA PIECE, AND OF COURSE I NEVER GUARANTEE ANYTHING WHEN IT INVOLVES FEDERAL APPROPRIATIONS BECAUSE

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THAT'S AN EVERY YEAR GO TO BATTLE ON CAPITOL HILL WHICH WE WERE RELATIVELY SUCCESSFUL.

THE FAA FUNDS 75 TO 80% OF ELIGIBLE PROJECTS.

TO OVERSIMPLIFY IT, THE RUNWAYS, TAXI WAYS, ROADWAYS THAT DIRECTLY SUPPORT THE AIRFIELD AND THE LIKE.

TERMINAL BUILDINGS, PARKING LOTS, THAT IS TYPICALLY NOT CONTRIBUTED TO BY THE FAA.

SO THAT'S SORT OF BROADLY WHERE THAT LINE IS DRAWN.

SO ON THE TOPIC OF WHO PAYS, IT IS DEFINITELY THE MORE THAN $10,000 QUESTION, IF YOU WILL, AND THERE'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT YOU CAN PAY FOR AIRPORT PROJECTS.

THE AIRPORT -- CURRENTLY WITHIN THE AIRPORT ENTERPRISE FUND HAS A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT DEBT INSTRUMENTS.

WE'VE GOT A LOAN THAT WE'RE PAYING -- PAY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE CONRACK THAT IS PAID FOR WITH RENTAL CAR FEES.

WE TAKE OUT OTHER DEBT THAT'S BACKED BY PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGES WHICH YOU'VE HEARD US DEBATE WITH CONGRESS TO TRY TO GET AN INCREASE TO THAT.

WE CAN TAKE OUT GENERAL REVENUE BACK FUNDS, SO WE HAVE REVENUE PICTURE AND WE CAN GET CREDIT BASED UPON THAT, BASED UPON OUR STRONG CREDIT RATING AND BASICALLY BACKED UP BY THE INCREDIBLE CREDIT RATING OF THE CITY.

OTHER AIRPORTS HAVE FUNDED PROJECTS WITH A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT MEANS, VARIOUS PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, AND SOMETIMES THERE'S PRIVATE INVESTMENT AND THEY MAY COME IN AND OPERATE -- EITHER BUILD AND THEN COLLECT FEES OR BUILD AND OPERATE PORTIONS OF THE FACILITY.

STATES, COUNTIES, MUNICIPALITIES HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO AIRPORT PROJECTS SO IT'S A BROAD RANGE OF OPTIONS.

AND ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WE FULLY INTEND, AND IT'S ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY WSP, AMONG OTHERS WAS CHOSEN, IS THEY'VE GOT A VERY STRONG TRACK RECORD ON DEVELOPING FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY PLANS.

AND THAT TENDS TO BE A VERY IMPORTANT SCOPE OF WORK FOR PHASE 2 TO HELP US.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT AIRPORTS AND AIRPORT MASTER PLANNERS TYPICALLY LEAVE TO THE END.

THEY DON'T PUT A LOT OF TIME IN IT.

TO ME, IT'S LIKE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.

WE'RE GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME WORKING WITH JOHN AND HIS TEAM AND THAT.

I WILL SAY I WAS ON THE PHONE WITH THE CEO OF AIRPORTS INTERNATIONAL WHICH IS ONE OF OUR BIG SUPPORTERS IN WASHINGTON.

I SERVED WITH THEM ON SOME POLICY ISSUES, AND DEPENDING UPON HOW THE ELECTIONS GO, THERE'S A REALLY GOOD CHANCE THAT AIRPORT FINANCING AND AIRPORT FINANCING OPTIONS WOULD RANGE FROM FAVORABLE TAX TREATMENT TO PRIVATE INVESTORS TO MORE FEDERAL CONTRIBUTIONS, IT'S GOING TO BE A MAJOR LEGISLATIVE EFFORT WITH THE NEW CONGRESS, SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

LONG ANSWER TO A SHORT QUESTION BUT IT'S A VERY BROAD TOPIC THAT WILL TAKE A LOT OF EFFORT AND A LOT OF TIME.

>> SALDAÑA: I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'VE GATHERED, THERE'S A BRODY VERSETY OF TOOLS THAT YOU CAN USE TO FUND OPPORTUNITIES AT THE AIRPORT, BUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE -- YOU KNOW, WHEN THE CONRACK IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT.

SO IN ORDER TO BUILT THE CONSOLIDATED CAR RENTAL FACILITIES BUILDING THAT IS FINALLY COMPLETE, WE INCREASED THE PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE.

SO ESSENTIALLY THE PEOPLE WHO WERE PAYING FOR THAT ARE THE FOLKS THAT WERE USING CAR RENTALS SO -- IT'S A USER FEE THAT ESSENTIALLY PAYS FOR THAT.

BUT I COULDN'T TURN AROUND AND SAY LET'S INCREASE THE PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE TO PAY FOR A PARK IN MY DISTRICT.

IT'S VERY STRICT, BUT IT ALSO HAS THIS HYBRID AND DIVERSITY OF OPTIONS THAT MAY NOT EXIST FOR OTHER THINGS.

>> CORRECT.

SO THE CUSTOMER FACILITY CHARGE, THE CFC IS HOW WE BACK THE CAR RENTAL FACILITY, AND THAT'S EVEN MORE SPECIFIC.

THOSE CHARGES HAVE TO BE CONTRIBUTED TO SOME SORT OF INSTRUMENT THAT'S FOR CAR RENTAL.

THE PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE HAS A MUCH BROADER USE FOR TERMINALS AND OTHER TERMINAL-TYPE FACILITIES, THAT'S THE RATE THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS CAPPED, AND THAT WE ARE UNABLE TO INCREASE ABOVE WHERE IT'S BEEN FOR TWO DECADES.

>> SALDAÑA: WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

I THINK WHEN FOLKS SEE ANY DOLLAR FIGURE THAT IT STARTS WITH A B, YOU KNOW, FOLKS START CLUTCHING THEIR POCKETBOOKS, PROBABLY RIGHTFULLY SO, BUT THIS IS PROBABLY ONE THAT YOU DON'T GO AT ALONE, EVEN IF YOU WANTED TO.

IF WE SAID WE WANTED TO BUILD A NEW AIRPORT, WE WANT TO EXPAND IT, WE HAVE TO GET A TON OF PARTNERS INVOLVED, FAA BEING THE LARGEST ONE, AND SO I THINK THAT GIVES US ALL -- I THINK AT LEAST IT GIVES ME A SENSE OF RELIEF THAT THERE ARE OPTIONS, BUT YOU HAVE TO PROVE THAT YOU'VE GOT DEMAND, YOU'VE GOT TO PROVE THAT THIS IS WORTH THE WHILE FOR PASSENGERS, WORTH THE WHILE FOR AIRLINE, WORTH THE WHILE FOR FAA TO MAKE INVESTMENTS.

THE LAST QUESTION IS ONE ON THE -- I'M STILL TRYINLLG TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE ABLE TO GET AWAY WITH ALL OF THE MILITARY TRAINING AIRSPACE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE IN SAN ANTONIO WITH OUR INSTALLATIONS, HOW WE'RE ABLE TO FIT THAT IN AND HOW THAT'S MORE NOT MORE OF A DETRIMENT.

I THINK YOU SAID SURPRISINGLY IT IS NOT THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A REGION THAT THEY FLY INTO THAT DOESN'T CONFLICT WITH SAN ANTONIO'S

>> I WOULD JUST SAY, GO BACK TO THE PICTURE THAT I POINTED YOU TO.

PART OF THE REASON WHY WE DON'T FLY OUT OF THAT NORTHEAST/SOUTHWEST RUNWAY IS

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BECAUSE OF RANDOLPH.

AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL WILL TYPICALLY ROUTE FOLKS AROUND RUNWAY 13.

THE HEAVY FLYING THEY DO IS NOT IN OUR CONTROL AREA, BUT IT IS A BUSY, BUSY AIR SPACE.

THERE ARE A LOT OF WHAT I CALL VFR FLIERS THAT FLY UP AND DOWN I-35 THAT USE THAT AS A NAVIGATION MEANS.

SO THAT PART OF OUR STATE IS A PARTICULARLY CROWDED AIR SPACE.

AGAIN, THAT'S ANOTHER CONSTRAINT THAT WE LOOKED AT.

YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S WHERE OUR FLIERS -- EXCUSE ME, IF THAT'S WHERE THE PASSENGERS ARE GOING THAT MAY NOT BE THE BEST PLACE TO PUT AN AIRPORT EITHER.

>> SALDANA: THANK YOU GENTLEMEN AND REPRESENTATIVES WHO ARE HERE FROM THIS COMMITTEE.

THE CONVERSATION BEGAN IN MARCH.

YOUR JOB WAS TO GO BACK AND GET AS SMART AS POSSIBLE AND COME BACK AND EXPLAIN WHAT YOU HAVE FOUND AND ALLOW US TO ASK QUESTIONS AND GET SMARTER ABOUT IT AS WELL.

AND WHAT I'M GLAD IS SOME OF THE TAKEAWAYS SEEM TO BE THAT WE ARE NOT LANDLOCKED.

WE DO HAVE THE CAPACITY TO GROW.

IT WILL FIT BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, IN SOME WAYS MAYBE SAN ANTONIO HAS BENEFITED FROM THE CHOICE OF HAVING IT WHERE IT WAS WHEN PERHAPS WE THOUGHT WE WOULD REGRET THAT DECISION.

IT'S THE SAME WAY I FEEL ABOUT OUR TRANSPORTATION NEEDS ON THE GROUND HERE IN SAN ANTONIO WHERE SOME CITIES HAVE GONE ALL IN OR DOUBLED DOWN ON RAIL.

YOU MIGHT SEE THAT THE FUTURE FOR CITIES WHO HAVE ALREADY INVESTED HEAVILY IN THE CAPITAL AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR RAIL MIGHT SEE THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE TECHNOLOGY MIGHT ALLOW FOR IT IN THE FUTURE.

AND SAN ANTONIO MAY SAY IT WAS PROBABLY A GOOD DECISION WE DIDN'T PUT RAIL DOWN BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE OPPORTUNITIES IN TRANSPORTATION WE'RE NOT AWARE OF.

THAT'S KIND OF THE TAKEAWAY THAT I'M SEEING FROM THE AIRPORT.

THAT IT HAS THE CAPACITY TO GROW AND ADAPT TO NEW TECHNOLOGY.

I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE PRESENTATION AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE REST OF THE CONVERSATION.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN SALDANA.

COUNCILMAN PERRY.

>> PERRY: THANK YOU, SIR.

WOW.

THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

GREAT PRESENTATION.

THANKS TO THE COMMITTEE FOR PUTTING ALL THIS -- THE PLANS TOGETHER, GETTING THEM GOING.

THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO GO, BECAUSE WE ARE EXPERIENCING THAT RAPID GROWTH AND WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING TO ACCOMMODATE THAT GROWTH.

BUT I HAVE TO SHARE COUNCILMAN COURAGE'S COMMENTS ABOUT CONCERNS FROM SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.

I HAVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS IN DISTRICT 10 THAT EVEN TO THIS DAY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT CURRENT NOISE.

AND TALKING ABOUT AN ADDITIONAL RUNWAY OR LENGTHENING OR WHATEVER, THAT'S RAISING CONCERNS IN DISTRICT 10.

SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO TALK AND GET THAT INFORMATION OUT AND MAKE SURE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING AND BE A PART OF THE PROCESS.

THAT'S THE COMMUNICATION AND BEING PART OF THE PROCESS, ESPECIALLY GOING INTO THIS PHASE TWO IS GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT.

SO I'LL BE VERY INTERESTED AND HOPEFULLY BE ENGAGED WITH THIS NEXT PHASE AS WELL.

I'M GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS DURING THIS NEXT PHASE TOO.

BUT I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS NOW.

ON SLIDE 4 AND 5 WE GOT A GREAT CROSS SECTION OF REPRESENTATIVES ON YOUR COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW.

AND I'M NOT TAKING AWAY FROM GENERAL HANDY'S MILITARY EXPERIENCE, BUT I DIDN'T SEE A MILITARY REP ON THE LIST FROM JBSA.

IS THERE A REASON WHY WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY FROM JBSA ON THE COMMITTEE?

>> THERE WASN'T A REASON.

WE SPENT ABOUT THREE TO FOUR MONTHS OF TRYING TO WINNOW DOWN THAT LIST AND WE DO HAVE THREE FORMER FIELD OFFICERS, I'M A FORMER OFFICER MYSELF AND OTHERS, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE AN ACTUAL REP.

WE TRIED TO TOUCH ALL BASES BUT WE DID NOT HAVE ONE.

>> NOT THAT IT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION SPECIFICALLY, BUT I DID WANT TO MAKE YOU COMFORTABLE THAT OUR MILITARY COMMUNITY FROM JBSA FULLY REPRESENTED ON OUR WORKING GROUPS AND OUR STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEES, WHICH IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE COMMITTEE AND DIRECTLY FED DATA AND ACCEPTED INPUT AS WELL.

SO THEY HAVE BEEN ENGAGED FROM THE BEGINNING.

BUT, YOU'RE RIGHT, WE DID NOT.

>> PERRY: YEAH, I WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE HAVING A REPRESENTATIVE ON THE COMMITTEE, ESPECIALLY GOING INTO THE NEXT PHASE.

BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT.

THERE ARE, EVEN THOUGH THE MAIN RUNWAY IS NOT LINING UP WITH WHAT RANDOLPH, WE STILL HAVE A RUNWAY DOWN AT LACKLAND.

WE HAVE AIR TRAFFIC GOING INTO CAMP BULLIS.

OF COURSE RANDOLPH AS WELL.

WE'VE GOT MILITARY FLIGHTS ALL AROUND THE PLACE AND I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THAT MILITARY REPRESENTATIVE ON THE

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DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE HERE ON THE COMMITTEE.

SO IF WE COULD FIND SOMEBODY FROM JBSA, THAT WOULD MAKE ME FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE ACTIVELY SUPPORTING THIS BUT I THINK THEY NEED A VOICE UP AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL.

SO HAVING SAID THAT, THERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION ABOUT ARCHAEOLOGICAL SITES OR POTENTIAL SITES.

CARLOS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TEXT MESSAGE ON THAT ABOUT WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST.

THE ARCHAEOLOGICAL, NO MATTER WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING HERE, IS FULLY GOING TO BE INVESTIGATED IN ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT FOR THE AIRPORT, RIGHT?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

THE FIRST THING THAT WE WOULD DO IN ADDITION TO, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT STRATEGIC PLANS IS KICKING OFF A PROCESS WHERE THERE'S A SERIES OF IMPACT STUDIES, FAA-MANDATED STUDIES, ENVIRONMENTAL SITE SELECTION.

AND SO THAT REALLY IS THE TIMELINE ISSUE IS THAT PROCESS, LESS SO THE FUNDING.

AND SO THAT IS -- WE'RE VERY AWARE OF OF THE MANY DIFFERENT IMPACTS.

WE ARE ADD THAT TO THE LIST AS WELL.

I WASN'T AWARE OF THE ARCHAEOLOGICAL ONE BUT WE ARE SENSITIVE TO ALL THOSE.

>> PERRY: WE HAVE A MAJOR CREEKWAY THROUGH THERE AND THAT'S USUALLY WHERE NATIVE AMERICANS KIND OF SETTLED AROUND THOSE CREEKWAYS.

SO THAT WILL BE AN IMPORTANT THING TO INVESTIGATE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY IMPACTS WITH THAT.

CARLOS, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING?

>> JUST FOR THE VIEWING AUDIENCE AND THE REST OF THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SO YOUR QUESTION WAS WAS THERE A STUDY THAT WAS CONDUCTED IN THE '70S THAT REVEALED ARCHAEOLOGICAL SITES FOUND IN THE CREEK.

AND THERE WERE.

AND IF I MAY, I JUST WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THERE WERE THREE ARCHAEOLOGICAL SURVEYS DONE IN 1979 BY THE FAA FOR THE AIRPORT THAT WERE RELATED TO THE RUNWAYS, ANY POTENTIAL EXPANSION.

NO ARCHAEOLOGICAL-SENSITIVE SITES WERE RECORDED IN EACH OF THOSE SURVEYS.

THERE WERE AN ADDITIONAL FOUR SURVEYS CONDUCTED IN 2005, 2014, AND 2012.

AND THERE WAS ONE SITE THAT WAS RECORDED BUT IT WAS ON THE SOUTH BANK OF THE CREEK AND COMPLETELY UNRELATED TO ANY RUNWAY, POTENTIAL RUNWAY EXPANSION.

BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THERE WILL BE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES.

THERE WILL BE ALL KINDS OF REVIEWS THAT TAKE PLACE BEFORE ANY ACTIVITY TAKES PLACE.

>> PERRY: GREAT.

THANK YOU, CARLOS.

IN THE PHASE ONE, AND I KNOW, RUSS, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT.

WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT -- THE OTHER ISSUE IS I DIDN'T SEE STINSON LISTED ON THE INTRODUCTORY SLIDES UP THERE.

YEAH, SLIDE 7 WHERE Y'ALL WENT AND LOOKED AT EACH OF OUR -- LIKE DOWN AT THE PORT AND THE RUNWAY, BUT WE DIDN'T LIST STINSON.

DID WE NOT LOOK AT STINSON WITH THE COMMITTEE?

>> NOT A SITE VISIT.

WE TALKED AN AWFUL LOT ABOUT STINSON, AND WE HAD A LOT OF STINSON EXPERTISE.

YOU ALSO DIDN'T SEE STINSON, AS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN PRODUCT.

IT'S THE SAN ANTONIO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT SYSTEM'S STRATEGIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS AT STINSON IS DRIVEN BY TXDOT.

SO WE WORK WITH THEM AND WE HAVE A CURRENT STINSON MASTER PLAN.

HOWEVER, WE SPECIFICALLY MADE THIS AN AIRPORT SYSTEM STRATEGIC PLAN SO WE COULD LOOK AT ALL OF AVIATION THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THE POTENTIAL UTILITY BROADLY IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME DEVELOPMENT AND PERHAPS SOMETHING MAY WANT TO OR NEED TO BE RELOCATED, HOW STINSON OR EVEN THE PORT WOULD PLAY INTO THAT.

THAT IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE PLAN, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T TECHNICALLY PRODUCE A MASTER PLAN FOR STINSON.

>> PERRY: THERE'S BEEN QUESTIONS IN THE PAST, WHY DON'T WE INCREASE OUR CAPACITY AT THE MAIN RUNWAY? WHY DON'T WE MOVE GENERAL AVIATION OUT TO STINSON AND MOVE OUR CARGO DOWN TO THE PORT TO FREE UP THAT HEAD SPACE FOR ADDITIONAL FLIGHTS COMING IN AND OUT OF THE AIRPORT? IF YOU COULD ADDRESS THAT.

>> IT'S A COMPLICATED QUESTION BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TECHNICALLY ALLOWING THE FAA TO TELL AN OPERATOR WHERE THEY CAN OPERATE.

THERE'S A VARIETY OF CITIES THAT HAVE USED INCENTIVES TO BE ABLE TO HELP FOLKS MAKE THAT DECISION, WHICH CERTAINLY MAY BE AN OPTION.

THE SHORT ANSWER IS WE WILL DEFINITELY LOOK AT THAT.

FIRST OF ALL, DOES IT HELP US FROM A CAPACITY PERSPECTIVE DO WE NEED TO RELOCATE SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T WANT TO RELOCATE -- AND THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF FOLKS THAT WOULD RESIST THAT.

AND IF THAT IS A NECESSITY OR FACILITATES THE EXECUTION OF THE PLAN THEN WE'LL ADDRESS THAT.

THERE ARE PARTS OF THIS PLAN THAT ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE POTENTIALLY EXECUTED WITHOUT IMPACTING ANYBODY.

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AND THEY CAN STILL OPERATE WITHOUT GREATLY INCREASING OR DECREASING OUR CAPACITY AND WITHOUT INCONVENIENCING THEM.

IT WILL BE A CASE-BY-CASE EXAMINATION.

BUT I THINK WE HAVE POTENTIAL ACROSS THE WHOLE AVIATION SYSTEM IN THE CITY FOR A LOT OF THOSE FLEXIBLE OPTIONS.

>> PERRY: SO THAT IS PART OF THIS STUDY?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> PERRY: YOU KNOW, I THINK AT LEAST I'M STILL A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT DEPENDENT VERSUS INDEPENDENT AIRFIELD OPERATIONS ON ANOTHER RUNWAY.

BUT THAT WILL COME OUT IN THE NEXT PHASE, RIGHT? BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT WHATEVER THE RECOMMENDATION COMES OUT OF THAT IT WILL BE TO MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF LAND ACQUISITION AND DISTURBANCE TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES, THAT KIND OF THING.

>> I WOULD SAY, LIKE I MENTIONED, WE HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN PHONE CALLS AND PEOPLE ARE AWARE.

TO LOOK AT IT AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL, THAT CLOSE-IN RUNWAY, THE DEPENDENT ONE, BUYS US 15 TO 20 YEARS.

BUT BECAUSE OUR CHARGE LOOKS AT 50 YEARS, THAT'S REALLY THE CHALLENGE.

AGAIN, WHO KNOWS WHERE THE AEROSPACE AND AVIATION MARKET WILL BE 30 YEARS FROM NOW.

SO THAT'S THE OTHER THING.

WE'RE VIEWING IT THROUGH THE LENS OF 2018 AND WE HAVE THE OPTIONS.

SO INCLUDING THAT SECOND OPTION, IF WE GO DOWN THAT PATH.

>> PERRY: I'M JUST SAYING WHICH EVER OPTION WE GO OR THE DIRECTION THAT WE GO IN TO MINIMIZE THAT LAND ACQUISITION PORTION.

BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUSINESSES AND THAT KIND OF THING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE --

>> IF I WEREN'T AWARE OF IT BEFORE THAT EXPRESS NEWS ARTICLE, I'M MOST CERTAINLY AWARE OF IT NOW .

NOT WORK IN AN INDUSTRY THAT'S CHANGING RAPIDLY.

BY THE TIME IT'S BUILT MAY OR MAY NOT EXIST AS WE KNOW IT.

SO THAT'S REALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT IT THROUGH THAT LENS, THEN IT IS A VERY RATIONAL DECISION.

>> PERRY: GREAT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> VIAGRAN: THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER PELAEZ.

>> PELAEZ: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO I'VE BEEN TAKING NOTES AND WHAT I'VE GOT SO FAR THAT I CAN TALK TO MY CONSTITUENTS ABOUT WHEN THEY ASK ME IS THAT AVAILABLE LAND FOR A NEW AIRPORT WHERE WE WOULD NEED A NEW AIRPORT, JUST ISN'T THERE, RIGHT?

>> WE WERE PROVIDED EVEN OPTIONS IN THE HILL COUNTRY WHERE YOU CAN'T PHYSICALLY BUILD AN AIRPORT IN IF HILLS.

SO THE OPTIONS ARE AUDIO]

>> PELAEZ: AND ALSO I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY THE LAST TIME WE MET, OR RUSS, MAYBE IT WAS YOU, THAT INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES JUST AREN'T HAPPENING AT A PACE COMMISERATE WITH OUR GROWTH.

IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT?

>> I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD SAY INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE'VE BEEN MAKING A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE UPDATES AND RENOVATIONS.

WHAT WE HAVEN'T DONE IS ADD CAPACITY, AND THE TIME IS NOW TO EXAMINE THAT.

WE'RE NOT LATE, BUT IT'S TIME.

>> PELAEZ: ALL RIGHT.

AND WE'RE NOT THE KIND OF CITY THAT IS A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR TWO AIRPORTS, LET'S SAY, RIGHT?

>> NO.

NO.

>> PELAEZ: OKAY.

>> NO.

>> PELAEZ: I GET IT.

AND THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THOSE NOW.

HERE'S WHAT I HAVE NOT HAD HAPPEN IN MY DISTRICT.

I AM CERTAIN THAT WHAT CLAYTON PERRY AND COUNCILMAN COURAGE TELL YOU IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

THAT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AROUND THE AIRPORT HAVE A DIFFERENT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE AIRPORT THAN THE PEOPLE IN OTHER DISTRICTS.

THE FOLKS IN MY DISTRICT, WHEN WE GO AND TALK TO THEM AND THE AIRPORT COMES UP, THEY USUALLY TELL ME I DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT THE AIRPORT.

FIX MY TRAFFIC.

FIX MY TRAFFIC.

THE AIRPORT'S NOT REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME.

I ONLY USE IT ONE TIME A YEAR AND THAT'S THANKSGIVING OR CHRISTMAS.

I HEAR THAT ALMOST UBIQUITOUSLY.

AND WHEN I CHALLENGE THEM ON THAT AND SAY, YEAH, I KNOW, BUT CITIES THAT ATTRACT GREAT JOBS AND THAT HAVE THRIVING ECONOMIES NEED GREAT AIRPORTS.

AND AN AIRPORT IS AN IMPORTANT TOOL IN OUR ABILITY TO DO THAT.

THE ANSWER I ALMOST ALWAYS GET BACK IS, YEAH, WHATEVER.

FIX MY TRAFFIC.

>> I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU.

I MENTIONED IN THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETING, I WAS ON THE S.A. 2020 COMMITTEE AND ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SUBCOMMITTEE AND I DON'T THINK I EVER HEARD ABOUT THE AIRPORT.

AND I DID READ THROUGH TEN YEAR'S OF COUNCIL PRIORITY MEMOS AND DIDN'T SEE A MENTION OF THE AIRPORT OR AIR TRAVEL.

SO IT SIMPLY HAS NOT BEEN A PRIORITY OF MOST FOLKS.

YOU DON'T GET YELLED AT, I DON'T

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THINK, AT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS ABOUT THE AIR SERVICE, I SUSPECT.

>> PELAEZ: THAT'S RIGHT.

>> SO THIS IS OUR CHALLENGE.

THIS IS OUR CHALLENGE.

>> PELAEZ: SO IF I'VE GOT AN ENTIRE DISTRICT WHO REALLY DOESN'T THINK IT HAS A RELATIONSHIP WITH ITS AIRPORT, ASIDE FROM THE GUYS, YOU KNOW, AND THE WOMEN WHO SHOW UP EVERY MONDAY TO GO DO THEIR BUSINESS TRIP OR WHATEVER.

BUT ASIDE FROM THOSE PEOPLE, MY HEAVY LIFT IS GOING TO BE JUSTIFYING A BIG SPEND ON ANY AIRPORT INITIATIVE.

AND, YET, I KNOW.

AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY AT THIS DAIS WHO WILL DISAGREE WITH WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY, AND THAT IS I KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS ARE PRESENTING US IS TRUE.

OUR AIRPORT IS GOING TO BE HITTING CERTAIN CAPACITY NUMBERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PROBLEMATIC AND IT'S JUST GOING TO GET WORSE AS WE GO ON.

AND A CITY THAT CONTINUES TO GROW AT OUR PACE, YOU SHOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF YOU'RE GOING TO NEED AN AIRPORT WITH MORE CAPACITY AND DOES MORE FOR MORE PEOPLE.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY DISAGREES WITH THAT.

THE SELL, AS MUCH AS I HATE SAYING IT, THE SELL IS A POLITICAL ONE.

WE HAVE TO DISTILL THIS DOWN SO OUR CONSTITUENTS UNDERSTAND EVEN THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE A DIRECT RELATIONSHIP WITH AN AIRPORT, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT REALLY THAT RELATIONSHIP EXISTS, RIGHT? AND THAT THEIR ABILITY TO THRIVE IS DEPENDENT UPON, YOU KNOW, AN AIRPORT THAT IS ALSO SERVING A LOT OF PEOPLE AND DOING IT IN THE BEST IN CLASS MANNER.

JOHN, HERE'S MY ISSUE.

YOU'RE DELIVERING TO US THIS REPORT THAT I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT IS 100% ON TARGET.

MY CONCERN, THOUGH, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE -- THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS OUT THERE THAT YOU JUST TELL THEM, HEY, BY THE WAY, WE HAVE THIS VERY GOOD IDEA.

IT'S LEGITIMATE, IT'S A REAL PROBLEM.

SOME OF OUR FRIENDS CALL THEM CITIZENS AGAINST VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING.

THAT'S A LOUD CONSTITUENCY AND THEY'RE FRUSTRATED WITH GOVERNMENT FOR A CERTAIN REASON.

I THINK IF ANYTHING THREATENS OUR ABILITY TO ACCOMPLISH SOME OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH, IT'S GOING TO BE GETTING TO THOSE PEOPLE WITH A MESSAGE THAT RESONATES.

AND I'M STRUGGLING WITH WHAT THAT MESSAGE IS.

AND THAT'S WHERE I'LL NEED YOUR HELP.

>> I LOVED COUNCILMAN SALDANA'S QUESTION.

I THINK TRYING TO EXPLAIN IT TO MY NON-FLYING FAMILY MEMBERS, NONE OF THEM HAVE FLOWN.

WHY DO I CARE? IT'S A TOUGH QUESTION AND I THINK I POINT TO COMMUNITIES LIKE KANSAS CITY AND OTHERS WHERE THEY ACTUALLY DID HAVE PROBLEMS WHEN THEY WENT TO THE VOTERS.

SO WE ARE VERY AWARE OF THAT CONSTRAINT AS WELL.

AND SO I'LL WORK WITH RUSS AND TEAM AND OUR CONSULTANTS AND YOU, BUT I AGREE THAT IS A NUT TO CRACK AND WE HAVE TO TELL THAT STORY.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, AS A TECHIE PERSON, DOING ALL THE STUFF I HAVE DONE IN TECH, I HEARD OVER AND OVER THAT OUR KIDS WOULD GO TO U.T. AND A&M AND THEN GO TO DALLAS AND HOUSTON AND OTHER PLACES.

HOW DO WE STEM THAT TIDE? IF YOU WANT TO BE NEAR YOUR GRANDCHILDREN YOUR KIDS NEED TO HAVE JOBS HERE AND ONE OF THE LINCHPINS OF THAT ECONOMIC SUCCESS IS THE AIRPORT, WHETHER WE FLY OUT OF IT OR NOT.

>> VIAGRAN: THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO OR JACK SPARROW.

>> TREVINO: TODAY WILL LONG BE REMEMBERED.

NO, IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE AND ALL THEIR HARD WORK.

THAT IS A VERY THOROUGH PRESENTATION AND YOU AND I GOT TO SPEAK TO THE ARRRPORT.

THE KEY HERE -- AND I WANT TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT COUNCILMAN PELAEZ IS TALKING ABOUT.

HOW CAN WE MAKE THIS RELATABLE? MY STAFF WAS TELLING ME DON'T GET TOO WONKY ON THE AIRPORT STUFF.

AND I LIVE VERY CLOSE TO THE AIRPORT MYSELF.

MY HOUSE IS ON THE PATH OF RUNWAY FOUR AND WE GET FREQUENT FLIGHTS THERE DEPENDING ON THE WIND DIRECTION AND SO FORTH.

SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T HEAR, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS WHAT WE LOOKED AT OR WHERE WE ARE IN THIS CERTAIN STAGE OF NEXTGEN, BECAUSE WE DID TALK ABOUT NEXTGEN AND HOW IT'S GOING TO IMPROVE THE LANDING PROCEDURES AND TIGHTEN UP A LOT OF THE ROUTES, WHICH SHOULD ALSO HELP ADDRESS NOISE ISSUES IN NEIGHBORHOODS.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT?

>> SO THE FAA, AS YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I MENTIONED IT TO YOU OVER A YEAR AGO, THE FAA SLOWED DOWN THE PROCESS.

THEY RAN INTO SOME HURDLES IN OTHER CITIES AND TOOK A STEP BACK TO EXAMINE HOW THEY WERE REACHING OUT TO COMMUNITIES.

THEY'RE BACK AND SO THEY'RE READY TO START THAT CONVERSATION AGAIN.

[01:25:01]

SO THE TIMING IS ACTUALLY VERY GOOD BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT PUBLIC OUTREACH ON THE BEHALF OF THE FAA.

WE PROMISED EACH OTHER THEY WOULD NEVER GO ANYWHERE WITHOUT ME AND VICE VERSA.

BECAUSE THERE ARE COMPETING INTERESTS WHEN YOU COME TO A SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS YOU TO BE MORE PRECISE AND MORE FLEXIBLE, BOTH IN THE HORIZONTAL AND THE VERTICAL WITH REGARD TO APPROACHES AND DEPARTURES.

SO I THINK THEY'LL GET SOME PRESSURES FROM AIRLINES WHO WANT THE MOST EFFICIENT ROUTE FROM POINT A TO POINT B.

AND I THINK THEY NEED TO FEEL SOME PRESSURE FROM COMMUNITIES, ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES TO INCLUDE NOISE AS A PART OF IT.

>> TREVINO: THIS IS IT RIGHT HERE.

THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO MATTER TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.

I WOULD ASK THAT AS THIS GETS REENGAGED AND WE BEGIN THIS PROCESS TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT NEXTGEN MEANS AND HOW THEY CAN PROVIDE INPUT ON THE IMPLEMENTATION.

YOU KNOW, I CERTAINLY THINK ALL OF US ON THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO BE INVOLVED IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, ESPECIALLY DISTRICTS THAT ARE IMPACTED BY THESE PROPOSED ROUTES OR TIGHTENING OF ROUTES.

BECAUSE I THINK ULTIMATELY NEIGHBORHOODS JUST WANT TO FEEL EMPOWERED IN TERMS OF WHAT'S COMING, HOW THEY CAN PROVIDE SOME INSIGHT OR INPUT.

AND ALSO GET KNOWLEDGE THAT, AS YOU MENTIONED, THE TECHNOLOGY IS SHOWING THAT AIRPLANES ARE QUIETER THAN EVER.

THE ROUTES ARE GOING TO BE MUCH TIGHTER AND PROVIDE REAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PATH TO BE ESSENTIALLY MORE EFFICIENT, AND THEREFORE PROVIDE MORE COMFORT TO NEIGHBORHOODS WHO, FOR THE MOST PART, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T FLY.

AND THEIR CONCERN IS JUST THE AIRPLANES FLYING OVERHEAD AND WHAT THAT MEANS TO THEM.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO ENGAGE THE PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT THIS MEANS TO THEM AND HOW WE ARE CERTAINLY VERY LUCKY TO HAVE AN AIRPORT THAT IS JUST TEN MINUTES FROM DOWNTOWN, A WORLD-RENOWNED DOWNTOWN, AND HOW WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT AND THE TECHNOLOGY IS ACTUALLY WORKING TO OUR BENEFIT SO THAT AIRPORTS, LIKE THE ONE WE HAVE, ARE ACTUALLY A REAL GEM TO MANY COMMUNITIES.

>> WE'D LIKE TO REPRESENT THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THE FAA HAS EXPERIENCED ELSEWHERE, AND WE'LL LOOK FOR YOUR HELP.

COUNCILMAN BROCKHOUSE AND I HAD THIS CONVERSATION.

THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU HAVE FOR TREMENDOUS OUTREACH TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS THAT WE HOPE TO BE A PART OF, BECAUSE WE'D REALLY LIKE TO PUSH THAT EFFORT UP.

>> TREVINO: GREAT.

WELL, THANK YOU.

LASTLY I WOULD SIMPLY ADD THAT, AGAIN, I KNOW IT'S PART OF THE PHASE TWO, BUT LOOKING AT GENERAL AVIATION, AS OPPORTUNITY I KNOW WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANYBODY DO ANYTHING, CERTAINLY NOT ANY GENERAL AVIATION PILOTS THAT ARE NOT GOING TO BE DOING WHAT THEY'RE TOLD TO DO.

THEY WANT TO HAVE OPTIONS.

AND WE WANT TO PROVIDE THEM GREAT OPTIONS.

AND I THINK SAN ANTONIO HAS THAT AND I THINK THAT STINSON PROVIDES AN INCREDIBLE OPTION FOR GENERAL AVIATION IN MANY WAYS.

SO I WANT TO PUT MY FINAL PITCH ON THAT.

AGAIN, HAVING AN INTERNATIONAL POINT OF ENTRY AT STINSON IS CRITICAL.

AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT WOULD BE SOME OF THE STEPS THAT WE WOULD TAKE TO GET THAT GOING.

IS IT GETTING AN IGR AGENDA? HOW DO WE GET FEDERAL SUPPORT ON THIS? WHAT DOES IT COST? CAN WE DO AN ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY OF WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN FOR US IN TERMS OF INCREASED AIR TRAFFIC.

>> I THINK AN IMPACT STUDY WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN A BIT OF AN IMPASSE, IF YOU WILL, AS YOU AND I HAVE TALKED TO COUPLE OF MINUTES AND BORDER PROTECTION VALIDATING THE DEMANDS .

I'M WORKING WITH GATE ONE AND THEY DON'T HAVE GREAT PROJECTIONS.

MAYBE THAT ECONOMIC IMPACT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

BECAUSE AT THIS POINT WE'RE AT THAT POINT OF STRUGGLING TO BE ABLE TO VALIDATE THAT DEMAND TO BRING THAT CAPABILITY TO BEAR.

>> TREVINO: I WOULD LIKE TO GET US STARTED WITH THAT.

IT'S HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE THAT WESLACO AIRPORT CAN HAVE AN INTERNATIONAL POINT OF ENTRY AND WE CAN'T SEEM TO HAVE ONE AT STINSON.

WE CAN DRAW A LOT OF COMPARISONS AND PARALLELS FOR THE NEED OR THE DEMAND THEY COULD BUILD UP.

THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE THAT IN PLACE.

AND, AGAIN, I THINK WE HAVE A WONDERFUL AIR SYSTEM HERE.

AND WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S QUITE UNIQUE TO OUR CITY.

AND FOR DOWNTOWN TO HAVE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, THE PORT, AND STINSON TEN MINUTES AWAY FROM DOWNTOWN IS JUST TRULY AMAZING.

>> IT'S A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE IS HOW I CHARACTERIZE IT.

IT'S A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE THAT WE HAVE THAT OTHERS DON'T.

>> TREVINO: AND LET'S SHARPEN THAT TOOL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU,

[01:30:03]

COUNCILMAN TREVINO.

COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN.

>> VIAGRAN: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

JOHN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION AND TO ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, ALL OF YOUR TIME AND YOUR EFFORT, AND STAFF AND FRANCISCO AND ALL OF OUR CONSULTANTS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IT MEANS SO MUCH TO ME PERSONALLY, AND I KNOW TO MY COMMUNITY, DISTRICT 3, FOR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT.

YOU HAVE PROVEN AND YOU HAVE SHOWN THAT YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT THIS AND THAT YOU WANT TO SEE SOMETHING POSITIVE COME OUT OF THIS.

SO VERY, VERY MUCH.

AND I DO WANT TO THANK YOU AND RECOGNIZE ALL OF THE MILITARY REPRESENTATION.

GENERAL RICE, EVERYONE.

ALL OF THE REPRESENTATION THAT WAS HERE, AND TO KNOW THAT THAT WAS VERY SERIOUSLY TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AS WE LOOKED AT ALL OF THIS.

AND TALKING ABOUT WHY THE RESIDENTS OF THE SOUTH SECTOR OF SAN ANTONIO AND THE OTHER AREAS OF SAN ANTONIO SHOULD CARE.

I THINK THAT WAS A GREAT POINT TO MAKE.

BUT ALSO KIND OF JUST GETTING INTO VERY SIMPLISTIC -- THANK YOU FOR THE DETAILS AND GOING INTO THE GRANULARITY THAT YOU HAVE HERE.

AND FOR ANSWERING THAT QUESTION OF WILL IT FIT, THE BIG QUESTION.

BUT SOMETIMES THE SIMPLE QUESTIONS THAT WE GET IN MEETINGS IS, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU JUST ADD ANOTHER FLIGHT? WHY DOESN'T THE CITY JUST ADD ANOTHER DIRECT FLIGHT TO DALLAS? WHY DOESN'T THE CITY JUST -- OR NONSTOP DIRECT FLIGHT TO DALLAS.

WHY DOESN'T THE CITY JUST DO THAT? OR WHY DOES AUSTIN GET A DIRECT OVERSEAS TO LONDON BUT NOT SAN ANTONIO? WHY DON'T YOU JUST DO THAT? WHY DOESN'T THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL JUST DO THAT? SO WHAT IS THE -- HOW ABOUT THE SHORTEST AND MOST MAYBE CONCISE ANSWER THAT WE CAN GIVE OUR COMMUNITY AND THOSE LISTENING RIGHT NOW AS WELL.

>> BECAUSE AIRLINES ARE VERY GOOD AT SERVICING THE DEMAND.

IF I HAD TO PUT IT IN ONE SENTENCE, THEY ARE BETTER AT IT THAN WE ARE.

THEY ARE BETTER AT IT THAN MOST.

AND WHAT WE HAVE GOT TO DO, AND I THINK WHAT WE'VE DONE PARTICULARLY WELL IN THE RECENT PAST IS OPTIMIZE AND SELL TO THE AIRLINES.

I'LL SAY THIS IN FRONT OF RUSS AND STAFF, BUT IT'S APPARENT TO OUR COMMITTEE THAT THE AIRLINES HAVE A RAPPORT WITH THE -- EXCUSE ME.

OUR AIRPORTS HAVE A RAPPORT WITH THE AIRLINES WHO THEY ARE PITCHING FOR NEW ROUTES.

THAT DOESN'T EXIST AT EVERY AIRPORT.

THERE ARE CERTAIN AIRPORTS THAT HAVE ANTAGONISTIC RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE AIRLINES, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

THE ONE THING WE CAN DO ON OUR END IS TO MAKE THE BEST POSSIBLE CASE WE CAN.

NOW WHAT THIS COMMITTEE'S GOAL IS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT COULD BE AND WHAT OTHER THINGS WE HAVEN'T REALLY ADDRESSED IN A MORE STRATEGIC AND LONG-TERM WAY.

I MENTIONED THE TWO THINGS.

IT'S THE AIRLINES AND THE PASSENGERS.

AND IF YOU -- YOU HAVE TO TAKE THOSE INTO ACCOUNT BECAUSE THEY CAN VOTE WITH THEIR FEET AND THEY CAN VOTE WITH THEIR DOLLARS.

THEY CAN GO TO AUSTIN, GO TO HERE, OR THEY CANNOT FLY.

YOU KNOW, AND THE AIRLINES COULD MOVE A FLIGHT OR FLIGHT OUT OF AUSTIN.

THERE ARE MANY OPTIONS.

IT'S NOT ENTIRELY APPARENT TO US.

I'LL GIVE YOU A GREAT EXAMPLE THAT WE LEARNED IN OUR COMMITTEE.

SOUTHWEST USED TO HAVE A NONSTOP FLIGHT INTO MEXICO CITY AND BACK.

THEY GOT SOURCED OUT OF HOBBY, AND WE THOUGHT THAT WAS SOME REFLECTION ON OUR COMMUNITY AND AIRPORT.

WHAT WE FOUND OUT WAS SOUTHWEST.COM CANNOT PROCESS FOREIGN CURRENCY FROM ITS WEBSITE.

SO THEY COULDN'T GET INBOUND PASSENGER ORDERS FROM MEXICO IN PESOS.

IT WOULD CUT OFF 4% OF THE DEMAND, SO THEY HAD TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE TO GET DEMAND.

SO THEIR INTENTION -- THERE'S A DECENT CHANCE THEY MIGHT MOVE THAT BACK.

BUT THEIR REASON WAS WHEN THEY ACQUIRED THOSE ROUTES AND THEY STARTED TRAVELING TO CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA AND MEXICO, THEY DIDN'T HAVE A WAY TO PROCESS FOREIGN CURRENCY ON THEIR WEBSITE.

WHO WOULD HAVE THUNK? THAT'S THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE.

IT'S THE AIRLINES, PASSENGERS.

>> VIAGRAN: THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION.

AND I REALLY AM VERY PLEASED TO SEE THESE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT YOU ALL ARE PUTTING OUT HERE.

I KNOW IT WASN'T TAKEN LIGHTLY THAT Y'ALL DID DELIBERATE LONG AND LOOK AT THIS.

I FEEL VERY, VERY ENCOURAGED AFTER THIS REPORT AND AFTER WHAT YOU ALL ARE SHARING WITH US.

SO I'M ENCOURAGED, ONE, AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER AS TEAM SAN ANTONIO AND PITCHING SAN ANTONIO TO OTHER GLOBAL MARKETS TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WE ARE WORKING ON IT.

WE'RE ON TOP OF IT BUT IT'S STILL SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW WE CAN BE COMPETITIVE WITH.

AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE STORIES WE CAN STILL GO OUT

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WITH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN.

COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL.

COUNCILMAN BROCKHOUSE.

>> SANDOVAL: WE'RE SWITCHED.

>> BROCKHOUSE: I'M IN A NEW SPOT OVER HERE.

I'M CONFUSED.

SORRY.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE WORK.

I SAW THE BRIEFING AND THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.

THAT WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION TO TAKE IN AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THE DECISIONS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF US.

SO I APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE TEAM AND THE COMMITTEE.

MY ONLY COMMENT IS GOING TO CENTER AROUND WHAT I ECHOED AT THE MEETING WHICH WAS THE PUBLIC HAS GOT TO BE INVOLVED AND SO DOES THE CITY COUNCIL.

I KNOW COUNCILMAN COURAGE TALKED ABOUT NOT BEING APPOINTED BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO POLITICIZE IT.

WE'RE IN POLITICS.

EVERYTHING IS POLITICAL.

WE SHOULDN'T NOT BE A PART OF SOMETHING BECAUSE WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT POLITICIZING IT.

THE CITY COUNCIL MUST BE INVOLVED.

THEY SHOULD BE INVOLVED FROM THE BEGINNING.

AND WHETHER WE'RE SITTING ON THE COMMITTEE OR NOT IS IRRELEVANT.

I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD HAVE THAT KIND OF DIALOGUE ONGOING REGARDLESS, REGULAR BRIEFINGS AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF.

I KNOW IT'S A CONDENSED TIMELINE AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S A LOT OF DATA.

COUNCIL MEMBER FOR AN HOUR.

IT'S A PAIN.

I GET IT.

BUT THESE ARE DECISIONS THAT AFFECT EVERY ONE OF OUR DISTRICTS.

AND THE MORE COUNCIL MEMBERS BROUGHT ON BOARD THE BIGGER ADVOCATE THEY CAN BECOME, BECAUSE THEY CARRY THE WILL OF THEIR COMMUNITY.

IT'S NOT THAT -- NOT PUTTING JOHN ON A COMMITTEE, COUNCILMAN COURAGE ON A COMMITTEE, IS REALLY ABOUT THE 160,000 PEOPLE HE REPRESENTS THAN IT IS ABOUT A COUNCIL MEMBER POLITICIZING SOMETHING.

DON'T EVER FORGET THAT.

AND TRY TO BRING A COUNCIL MEMBER IN AND MAKE SURE ALL OF US UNDERSTAND THE DECISIONS IN FRONT OF US.

WE CANNOT BE LEFT OUT.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S YOUR INTENTION.

WE HAVE TO BE A PART OF EVERY PIECE OF IT SO ALL OF US HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A DECISION THAT AFFECTS THE ENTIRETY OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AND THIS TRANSPORTATION PIECE IS TOP OF THE LIST, WHETHER IT'S AIR OR RAIL OR A RAZOR SCOOTER, DOESN'T MATTER WHAT IT IS.

WE ALL HAVE TO BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE SO WE CAN BUY INTO IT AND AS A TEAM GO FORWARD AND TRY TO DO THIS.

THIS IS BIG THINKING AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I REITERATED THAT.

THE COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION NEEDS TO RAMP UP OVER THE NEXT PHASE SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE OPTION.

AND A LOT OF THAT IN THE COMMUNITY IS SIMPLY PERCEPTION.

>> I COULDN'T AGREE MORE.

I GO BACK TO THE QUESTIONS THAT THE REST OF THE COUNCIL POSED.

IT'S LIKE HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN IT TO THE NON-FLYING PUBLIC? HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN A POTENTIAL BILLION DOLLAR PLUS INVESTMENT TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER FLOWN? AND WE KNOW THIS IS AN IMPORTANT THING.

AND I THINK OUR COMMITTEE AND THE STAFF FEEL INCREDIBLY STRONGLY THAT WE'VE GOT TO DO THIS WHILE WE CAN.

BECAUSE THE OTHER THING IS, IF YOU NOTICE WE HAVE HAD DOWNTURNS.

AND WHEN REGIONS DON'T INVEST IN AIRPORTS IS WHEN YOU'RE IN A RECESSION AND SEPTEMBER 11TH.

I HEARD Y'ALL LOUD AND CLEAR, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS WE NEED TO GET, IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE HAVE DONE, MORE INPUT.

WE APPRECIATE THAT AND WE'LL DO THAT.

WHATEVER RECOMMENDATIONS WE MAKE WILL BE STRONGER WITH THAT.

WE ALL BALANCE THIS WITH OUR DAY JOBS.

I'M LOOKING AT THE CLOCK AND I THINK WE'RE AN HOUR LATE, PERHAPS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE THAT AND I HAVE BEEN RESPECTFUL FOR THE COMMITTEE AS WELL.

WE'LL GET ON YOUR CALENDAR.

>> BROCKHOUSE: Y'ALL ARE WORKING ON IT AND IT'S AN ONGOING THING.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I REITERATED THAT ON THE RECORD THAT WE'RE ALL A PART OF THIS DECISION AND INCLUDE US SO WE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING ON BEHALF OF OUR RESIDENTS.

>> I THINK THE COMMITTEE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION WHEN WE CAN LOOK BACK A DECADE OR TWO FROM NOW AND SAY WE DID THIS.

IT WAS WITH THIS COUNCIL AND TEAM AND WITH THE STAFF AND THE COMMITTEE.

SO THAT'S WHAT'S DRIVING US, AND WE'LL DO THAT.

>> BROCKHOUSE: I APPRECIATE THE WORK.

THANK YOU TO YOU AND THE TEAM.

THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN BROCKHOUSE.

COUNCILMAN SALDANA.

>> SALDANA: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT MY RESIDENTS DON'T GET UPSET AT ME BECAUSE IF THERE IS LEGITIMATE COMPLAINT AND CONCERNS ABOUT NOISE AT OUR GENERAL AIRPORT, I'VE GOT F-16S AND C-130S ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND FOLKS DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO FAA FUNDING TO PUT ON TO THEIR WINDOWS LIKE THEY DO UP IN DISTRICTS 8 AND 9 AND 10.

JUST MAKE SURE THAT IF ANY PERSON OUT THERE IS SAYING, HEY, HOW COME MY COUNCILMAN DIDN'T

[01:40:01]

CHIME IN THE FACT THAT I HAVE BEEN LIVING WITH THIS 30 OR 40 YEARS.

I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD BECAUSE THE FOLKS DOWN THERE TELL ME ABOUT IT AND SAY AT THE END OF THE DAY MY UNCLE, MY DAD, MY GRANDFATHER GOT EMPLOYED WITH THE WORK THERE.

I LOOK AT JIM AND WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE SOUND OF THAT NOISE SOMETIMES.

>> IT'S THE SOUND OF FREEDOM.

[LAUGHTER]

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN SALDANA.

JOHN AND GENERAL HANDY, GREAT WORK ON THIS.

WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO WATCH PHASE TWO BEGIN.

[2. Briefing and update on the San Antonio Metropolitan Health District’s strategic plan, new priorities, and accreditation progress for FY 2018-2019. [Erik Walsh, Deputy City Manager; Colleen M. Bridger, MPH, PhD, Director, Health]]

CARRY ON.

THANK YOU, GUYS.

ALL RIGHT.

WE DO HAVE TIME AND WE HAVE ANOTHER ITEM HERE ON OUR AGENDA.

>> SCULLEY: WE DO, MAYOR.

IT'S A SHORT PRESENTATION BY OUR PUBLIC HEALTH DIRECTOR, DR. COLLEEN BRIDGER.

IT'S TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

SHE PRESENTED IN MAY OF 2017 TO THE COUNCIL TO TALK ABOUT THE PRIORITY AREAS STUDYING HEALTH ISSUES FOR THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING OBESITY, TYPE 2 DIABETES, OZONE LEVELS, AS WELL AS PREVENTABLE DISEASES FOR CHILDREN.

SO WE'VE ADDED ANOTHER COMPONENT, AND COLLEEN IS HERE TO GIVE A QUICK UPDATE.

AND WE DO HAVE ONE ITEM ON EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR TODAY.

COLLEEN.

>> IF YOU WISH TO STAND UP AND STRETCH AND DO WINDMILLS AND GET THE BLOOD CIRCULATING AGAIN, THAT'S REALLY FINE.

I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS REALLY QUICKLY BUT GIVE ME THE HIGH SIGN IF YOU NEED ME TO SLOW DOWN ON SOMETHING.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS BRIEF UPDATE IS TO GIVE YOU INFORMATION ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THE SECOND YEAR OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

GIVE YOU AN UPDATE OF WHERE WE ARE WITH ACCREDITATION AND GIVE YOU A SNEAK PEEK AT INITIATIVES.

LET'S START WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

WHAT I'M PRESENTING RIGHT NOW ARE JUST THE PRIORITY INDICATORS.

THEY ARE NOT ALL 22 INDICATORS COVERED IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, BUT THIS SHOULD ALL BE NAR TO YOU.

DIABETES, OBESITY, OZONE, CHILDHOOD IMMUNIZATIONS, AND ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES.

THERE IS GREAT OVERLAP AUDIO] PLANS IN THE CITY.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PLAN, THE S.A. TOMORROW PLAN, AND THE S.A.

2020 PLAN.

YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT WE'RE DOING WITH THESE OTHER GROUPS AS WELL.

LET'S GET INTO IT.

TYPE 2 DIABETES.

YOU CAN SEE I HAVE THE WORD "MODIFIED" IN FRONT OF THE WORD "GOAL." AND BEFORE PEOPLE START THINKING THAT WE COULDN'T MEET THE GOALS, SO WE CHANGED IT.

IT'S JUST THE OPPOSITE.

WE MET THE GOALS SOONER THAN ANTICIPATED, AND SO WE MODIFIED THE GOAL TO MAKE IT EVEN HARDER TO ATTAIN.

SO THE NEW GOAL IS TO DECREASE THE PREVALENCE OF DIABETES BY 2%.

AND LET ME UNPACK THIS SLIDE FOR YOU JUST A LITTLE BIT.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE SOLID LINES FIRST.

SO THE SOLID BLUE LINES SHOW YOU WHAT'S HAPPENING IN BEXAR COUNTY.

THIS IS THE PERCENT OF ADULTS WITH TYPE 2 DIABETES IN BEXAR COUNTY, AND IT'S FROM 2011 TO 2017.

SO YOU CAN SEE IT GOES UP AND DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

IT'S BEEN TRENDING DOWNWARDS.

THE RED SOLID LINE IS WHAT THE COMPARABLE NUMBER IS FOR THE UNITED STATES.

SO WHILE OUR NUMBERS HAVE BEEN TRENDING DOWN, THE U.S. HAS ACTUALLY BEEN TRENDING UP A LITTLE BIT.

BUT THEY STILL, AS A NATION, THE PERCENTAGE IS LOWER THAN HERE IN BEXAR COUNTY.

THE OTHER TWO LINES REPRESENT THAT CHANGED GOAL.

SO THE FIRST GOAL THAT WE SET BASED ON DATA THAT WE GOT IN 2014 IS THE BLACK DOTTED LINE.

AND THEN THE REVISED GOAL THAT WE SET LAST YEAR IS THE BLUE DOTTED LINE.

SO, AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE WE MET THE TARGET IN 205.

2010 2015.

SOME OF THE THINGS WE WORK ON SPECIFIC TO DIABETES IS WE WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY THROUGH THE DIABETES COLLABORATIVE.

AND THAT REPRESENTS A LOT OF DIFFERENT ENTITIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY THAT ARE WORKING ON ADDRESSING DIABETES, WHICH IS WHY I THINK WE'RE STARTING TO SEE SOME MOVEMENT ON LOWERING THE PERCENTAGE OF FOLKS WHO HAVE DIABETES.

WE ALSO WORK REALLY CLOSELY WITH THE YMCA.

WE ACTUALLY FUND SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THEY OFFER THROUGH 1115 WAIVER FUNDING TO WORK WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE PRE-DIABETES, TO PREVENT THEM FROM DEVELOPING DIABETES.

IS THAT THUNDER OR IS SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON OUT THERE? OH, IT'S THE CONSTRUCTION? I WAS GETTING A LITTLE WORRIED.

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[LAUGHTER] SO WE WORK WITH PEOPLE WITH PRE-DIABETES TO PREVENT THEM FROM GETTING DIABETES.

AND WE WORK WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIABETES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN MANAGE THAT DISEASE IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT DOESN'T DEVOLVE INTO RENAL DISEASE, KIDNEY FAILURE, AMPUTATIONS, ET CETERA.

I WILL SAY WE SET A PRETTY AMBITIOUS GOAL THAT PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS IN THESE PROGRAMS WOULD LOSE, ON AVERAGE, 4% OF THEIR WEIGHT.

AND WHEN WE SET THAT GOAL THERE WAS A LOT OF NERVOUSNESS.

AND WE ARE INDEED MEETING THAT GOAL.

SO LET'S LOOK AT THE NEXT ONE, WHICH IS OBESITY IN ADULTS AND CHILDREN.

AGAIN, LOWERING OBESITY IN ADULTS BY ABOUT 3% AND OBESITY IN KIDS BY ABOUT 5%.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATA, AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THAT SOLID BLUE LINE INDICATES WHAT THE DATA IS TELLING US IS HAPPENING.

ONE NOTE OF CAUTION ABOUT THE DATA THAT WE HAVE TO USE AROUND CHRONIC DISEASES, IS THAT IT'S A SURVEY DONE BY THE CDC AND THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THEY'VE SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASED THE SAMPLE SIZE.

SO THEY ARE ONLY ASKING 500 PEOPLE ABOUT THESE QUESTIONS.

SO 500 PEOPLE REPRESENTING ABOUT 2 MILLION IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY MAKES ME A LITTLE BIT LEERY TO SAY THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING.

BUT IT GIVES US A SENSE OF TREND DATA IN WHAT'S HAPPENING.

YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE OBESITY NUMBERS, THEY WENT UP A LITTLE BIT AND NOW THEY'RE COMING BACK DOWN AGAIN.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT KIDS, WE HAVE A REALLY COOL OPPORTUNITY IN THAT WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH THE WITTE MUSEUM AND THEIR BODY ADVENTURE.

BECAUSE WE PAY FOR SOME OF THE WORK THEY DO IN THE BODY ADVENTURE, THEY SHARE THE DATA THEY GET THROUGH THOSE INTERACTIVE EXHIBITS.

SO WE'RE PUSHING CLOSE TO 10,000 KIDS WHO WE HAVE DATA ON THEIR BMI AS WELL AS THEIR FRUIT AND VEGETABLE CONSUMPTION, THEIR SUGAR AND SWEETENED BEVERAGE CONSUMPTION.

COLLABORATIVELY WE ARE ANALYZING THIS DATA AND USING IT TO DRIVE PUBLIC HEALTH INITIATIVES MOVING FORWARD.

AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE WE'RE TRENDING -- MOSTLY TRENDING DOWNWARD BUT WE'RE STILL SIGNIFICANTLY ABOVE THE NATIONAL NUMBERS.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO TO ADDRESS OBESITY IN BOTH KIDS AND ADULTS.

WE HAVE THE HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOODS INITIATIVE.

THAT WORKS WITH FAMILIES AND CHILDREN.

WE'VE PROVIDED 316 NUTRITION CLASSES TO 3,500 ADULTS AND 2,300 KIDS.

WE ALSO HAVE 33 COMMUNITY-LED NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECTS THAT ARE AIMED AT DECREASING OBESITY THROUGH INCREASING PHYSICAL ACTIVITY AND IMPROVING NUTRITION.

I THINK THE LAST TIME I SPOKE WITH Y'ALL ABOUT SOMETHING OTHER THAN OZONE, I MENTIONED THE TREE MAPPING WAS ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE WERE DOING.

WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S A REALLY POPULAR INITIATIVE.

SO WANTED TO -- I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE JUST A REALLY QUICK VIDEO.

>> I'M JENNIFER LOPEZ GARZA.

I'M A COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKER FOR HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOODS.

THE WALKING SCHOOL BUS IS A GROUP EFFORT THAT WAS ROOTED IN THE COMMUNITY TO REALLY HELP CHILDREN THAT ARE WALKING TO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

WE KIND OF CAME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY AND THIS IS WHAT WE CAME UP WITH.

>> I THINK IT SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTED AROUND A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE STARTED OUT WITH LIKE 15 TO 20 KIDS AND THEN WE GREW UP TO 50 TO 55 KIDS.

SO IT HAS GROWN.

>> IT'S A FUN WAY TO GET TO SCHOOL BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS JUST LIKE HAVING A GOOD TIME OR WALKING TOGETHER.

NOT ONLY ARE WE BEING PHYSICALLY ACTIVE BUT WE'RE ALSO GROWING IN OUR COMMUNITY.

>> SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THE INTERVENTIONS THAT WE'RE DOING.

JUST THOUGHT I WOULD VARY IT UP A LITTLE BIT.

NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT EVERYBODY'S FAVORITE SUBJECT, OZONE.

WHEN OZONE WAS FIRST IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IT WAS TO IMPROVE THE WAY WE MONITOR OZONE.

THAT WAS THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S RESPONSIBILITY.

WHEN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT BEGAN RUNNING POINT ON ACTUALLY ADDRESSING THE NON-ATTAINMENT ISSUE, WE MODIFIED OUR GOAL.

SO THIS IS A NEW GOAL.

AND NOT SURPRISINGLY IT'S ALL AROUND GETTING TO 70.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHART, YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THIS CHART.

I WILL SAY I WENT AHEAD AND RISKED IT ALL AND ADDED THE VERY LAST ITEM THERE FOR 2018.

OUR DESIGN VALUE FOR 2018.

AGAIN, 2018 DOESN'T END FOR A COUPLE MORE MONTHS, BUT IT'S UNLIKELY THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A HIGH OZONE DAY BETWEEN NOW AND DECEMBER 31ST.

OUR DESIGN VALUE HAS DROPPED TO 72.

SO THAT IS GOOD NEWS.

WE NEED IT TO DROP BELOW 70,

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THOUGH, BECAUSE THAT'S NOW THE FIRST YEAR OF OUR THREE-YEAR AVERAGE.

SO IN ORDER TO GET TO THAT 70 AVERAGE OVER THREE YEARS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET TO 68 AND 69.

BUT WE ARE AT LEAST HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

I THINK Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING AROUND OZONE, SO IN AN EFFORT TO GO PRETTY QUICKLY I'M GOING TO KIND OF SKIM THROUGH SOME OF THIS STUFF.

YOU HAVE HEARD A LOT OF THIS AT DR. JEFFERIES' PRESENTATION.

I'M SURE ALL OF YOU REMEMBER VERBATIM HOW THAT PRESENTATION WENT.

SO LET'S LOOK AT THE IMMUNIZATIONS AND CHILDREN GOAL.

THIS IS ANOTHER GOAL WHERE WE MET OUR ORIGINAL GOAL.

SO WE'VE MODIFIED IT TO IMPROVE IT EVEN MORE.

WE'VE NOW INCREASED IT BY AN ADDITIONAL 2%.

WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE ON THIS SLIDE, AGAIN, IT'S THE BLUE LINE THAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN THAT INDICATES WHAT'S HAPPENING IN BEXAR COUNTY.

WE'RE NOW AT 77.1.

WELL, OUR NEW GOAL IS 77.1 AND WE ARE SUPER CLOSE TO THAT.

WHICH ALSO PUTS US REALLY CLOSE TO THE HEALTHY PEOPLE 2020 TARGET.

AND THERE AREN'T A LOT OF HEALTHY PEOPLE 2020 TARGETS THAT WE'RE THAT CLOSE TO, SO WE MIGHT EVEN GET THERE BY THE END OF THIS STRATEGIC PLAN PERIOD.

SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WORK ON TO IMPROVE VACCINATION COVERAGE AMONG KIDS HERE IN BEXAR COUNTY.

THIS LAST YEAR -- OR SO FAR IN FISCAL YEAR '18 WE GAVE ABOUT 54,000 VACCINES TO KIDS UNDER 3.

SO WE GIVE A LOT OF SHOTS.

WE ALSO WORK WITH 151 PRIVATE PROVIDERS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY TO HELP THEM DO A GOOD JOB OF VACCINATING KIDS THAT COME SEE THEM.

WE PROVIDE EDUCATION ON HOW TO MAKE SURE THAT KIDS IN THEIR PRACTICE CAN STAY UP TO DATE ON THEIR VACCINATIONS, AND WE'RE THEIR LIAISON WITH THE STATE.

WE ALSO DO A LOT OF OUTREACH IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS TO DOCTORS' OFFICES.

THEN AS YOU HEARD IN YOUR BUDGET PRESENTATION, THIS YEAR WE'VE EXPANDED -- WE'VE DOUBLED THE NUMBER OF LOCATIONS FOR IMMUNIZATIONS FROM ONE TO TWO.

WE NOW HAVE A SITE ON THE EAST SIDE AND THE WEST SIDE WHERE WE'RE OFFERING IMMUNIZATIONS.

A NEW GOAL FOR US, ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES.

WE ARE FOCUSED ON CONVENING A TRAUMA-INFORMED CARE CONSORTIUM AND INCREASING THE NUMBER OF AGENCIES BY 2% BY THE FISCAL YEAR 2020.

SO, AGAIN, JUST A QUICK REMINDER, ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES ARE THINGS YOU THINK OF LIKE ABUSE AND NEGLECT.

IT ALSO REPRESENTS HOUSEHOLD DYSFUNCTION.

SO THINGS LIKE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OR MENTAL ILLNESS OR DRUG USE IN THE HOME.

THESE CHILDHOOD TRAUMAS INCREASE THE RISK FOR CHRONIC DISEASE IN ADULTHOOD.

AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP TEN LEADING CAUSES OF DEATH IN THE UNITED STATES AND IN BEXAR COUNTY, YOU CAN SEE THE ODDS RATIO OF HAVING AN A SCORE OF FOUR, AND ABOUT 15% OF FOLKS IN TEXAS HAVE AN A SCORE OF FOUR OR MORE.

IF YOU HAVE AN ACE SCORE OF FOUR YOUR ODDS FOR HEART DISEASE, FOR EXAMPLE, IS 200%.

IF YOU HAVE HIGH CHOLESTEROL, YOUR RISK FOR DEVELOPING HEART DISEASE IS ABOUT 40% GREATER THAN SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T HAVE HIGH CHOLESTEROL.

SO THIS IS ONE OF THE LEADING INDICATORS, ONE OF THE LEADING RISK FACTORS FOR HARD DISEASE.

AND WE HAVEN'T DONE A GOOD JOB OF ADDRESSING IT , SO THAT'S WHY THIS IS A PRIORITY.

GO AS UPSTREAM AS POSSIBLE TO ADDRESS THE LEADING CAUSES OF DEATH.

WE ARE DOING LOTS OF THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW TO DO THIS.

I HAVE A PRESENTATION SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN ON ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES.

I GIVE IT ABOUT ONCE A WEEK.

WE JUST GOT THREE MORE STAFF TRAINED BY ONE OF THE ORIGINAL RESEARCHERS WHO DID ALL OF THE ACE RESEARCH FOR KAISER.

SO WE NOW HAVE THREE MORE FOLKS WHO CAN DO THESE PRESENTATIONS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE FORMED A TRAUMA-INFORMED CARE CONSORTIUM.

THERE'S A TRI-CHAIR SITUATION GOING ON, WHICH IS PRETTY COOL.

I HAVE NEVER BEEN A TRI-CHAIR BEFORE.

IT'S METRO HEALTH, VOICES FOR CHILDREN, AND THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER ARE TRI-CHAIRING THIS CONSORTIUM.

IT CONSISTS OF 11 DIFFERENT SECTORS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH TO HELP THEM MAKE SURE THAT THE

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WORK THAT THEY DO IS DONE THROUGH A TRAUMA-INFORMED LENS.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO PROVIDING STAFF SUPPORT TO SOME OF THESE INITIATIVES, AS WELL AS WORKING ON CREATING OUR OWN CERTIFICATION ENTITY HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.

SO THAT'S THE UPDATE OF WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR CURRENT STRATEGIC PLAN.

AGAIN, THIS IS YEAR TWO REPORT OUT OF A THREE-YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN.

THE END OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS SEPTEMBER 30TH OF '19.

BUT THAT MEANS WE START WORKING NOW ON CREATING THE NEXT STRATEGIC PLAN.

THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE IS STEEPED IN COMMUNITY INPUT.

SO WE HAD A BOARD -- I THINK PROBABLY YOU ALL SAW THE BOARDS THAT WE HAD AT EACH OF THE SA SPEAK UP EVENTS WHERE PEOPLE WERE GIVEN GREEN DOTS AND THEY COULD VOTE FOR WHAT THEY THOUGHT WERE THEIR TOP THREE PRIORITY HEALTH INDICATORS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE HAVE THAT DATA.

WE HAVE A SURVEY WE'RE SENDING OUT ELECTRONICALLY AS WELL AS PAPER.

WE HOPE TO GET A THOUSAND MORE SURVEYS LIKE THAT SO WE CAN GET WHAT THE COMMUNITY THINKS IS THE TOP TEN ISSUES IN SAN ANTONIO.

WE CAN CONVENE A GROUP OF FOLKS TO LOOK AT THESE TOP TEN ITEMS, NARROW IT DOWN TO THE TOP THREE.

AND THOSE TOP THREE ITEMS WILL FORM THE BASIS OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS.

SO YOU WILL HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED YOU TO HAVE A HIGH-LEVEL UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROCESS WE'RE GOING TO BE USING.

LAST ITEM, MOSTLY, IS TO TALK ACCREDITATION.

WE ARE GOING FOR ACCREDITATION AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

I WENT TOO SLOW.

ALL RIGHT.

SO PUBLIC HEALTH ACCREDITATION ACCOMPLISHES A COUPLE OF THINGS.

IT SETS A STANDARD AND IT'S A NATIONAL STANDARD, BECAUSE THIS IS NATIONAL ACCREDITATION.

SO THIS SAYS IF YOU ARE NATIONALLY ACCREDITED THAT MEANS THAT YOU HAVE MET THESE STANDARDS.

IT ALSO HIGHLIGHTS SOME OF THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

AND THE FRAMEWORK THEY USE IS A DECADES-OLD FRAMEWORK OF THE TEN ESSENTIAL PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICES.

AND THEN THEY'VE ADDED TWO OTHER THINGS THAT THEY MEASURE AS WELL.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT IS INVOLVED IN THIS, SO THERE ARE 12 DOMAINS STARTING UP HIGH.

THERE ARE 12 DOMAINS.

THERE ARE 32 STANDARDS.

AND THEN THERE ARE 100 DIFFERENT MEASURES.

AND WHEN YOU PUT ALL OF THIS TOGETHER IT'S OVER 500 DIFFERENT PIECES OF EVIDENCE THAT WE SUBMIT TO SHOW THAT WE ARE INDEED MEETING THESE NATIONAL STANDARDS.

SO WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE AS FAR AS PROCESS-WISE IS WE HAD TO GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT EACH OF THE DIFFERENT STANDARDS AND MEASURES, MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD EVIDENCE TO PROVE THAT WE WERE DOING THAT.

AND THEN WE HAD TO PROVIDE THAT DOCUMENTATION.

AND OFTENTIMES YOU'RE LIKE, OH, YEAH.

WE DID THAT.

AND THEY'RE LIKE, OKAY.

WHERE'S THE DOCUMENTATION? SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO DOCUMENT THAT WE HAVE A FRUIT TRUE MAPPING PROGRAM.

THAT'S JUST A REALLY COOL PROGRAM.

HOW DO YOU DOCUMENT THAT.

SO WE HAVE GOTTEN BETTER OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS OF MAKING SURE WE'RE ABLE TO DOCUMENT THINGS LIKE THAT SO WE CAN SUBMIT THEM FOR ACCREDITATION.

ONCE WE GATHER ALL THOSE DOCUMENTS TOGETHER, WE WILL SUBMIT.

WE WILL SUBMIT MID-DECEMBER.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE 45 STAFF WORKING ON THIS ACCREDITATION PROCESS, WHICH IS ABOUT 10% OF METRO HEALTH'S WORKFORCE.

I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A CONCRETE EXAMPLE.

I KNOW IT'S LIKE STANDARDS, MEASURES, DOMAINS, WHAT THE HECK ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY TO IDENTIFY AND ADDRESS HEALTH PROBLEMS. SO THAT'S A HIGH-LEVEL ITEM.

THEN IF YOU ZOOM INTO STANDARD 4.2, WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR US TO DO IS PROMOTE THE COMMUNITY'S UNDERSTANDING OF AND SUPPORT FOR POLICIES AND STRATEGIES THAT WILL IMPROVE THE PUBLIC'S HEALTH.

THEN YOU GET EVEN MORE SPECIFIC AND THEY ARE ASKING FOR TWO EXAMPLES DOCUMENTING ENGAGEMENT WITH THE GOVERNING ENTITY ADVISORY BOARD ABOUT STRATEGIES TO PROMOTE THE PUBLIC'S HEALTH.

THE TWO PIECES OF EVIDENCE WE ARE PROVIDING TO DO THAT ARE THE FAST TRACK CITIES BRIEFING THAT I PROVIDED TO COUNCIL, AND THEN THE VARIOUS TOBACCO 21 PRESENTATIONS THAT WE DID WITH Y'ALL AND OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS.

SO THAT JUST MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE CONCRETE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR NEXT STEPS, LIKE I SAID, WE'LL BE SUBMITTING OUR DOCUMENTS MID-DECEMBER.

THEY WILL THEN COME DOWN AND DO A SITE VISIT IN THE SPRING.

AND WE WILL HAVE A FINAL DECISION BY THE FALL OF 2019.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE

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ANOTHER GREAT ANNOUNCEMENT THAT WE CAN MAKE.

REALLY QUICKLY, LOOKING AT KIND OF WHAT FUTURE INITIATIVES, WHAT TO EXPECT NEXT.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO RUN POINTS ON OZONE ATTAINMENT.

WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE OPIOID TASK FORCE 2.0 LOOKS LIKE AND BRING THAT BACK TO Y'ALL.

AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY TO ADDRESS ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES.

AND THEN DEPENDING ON THE WHAT THE COMMUNITY GROUP COMES UP WITH AS THE TOP THREE PRIORITIES, STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FOR METRO HEALTH, WE'LL FILL THOSE BLANKS IN ABOUT MARCH AND MAKE SURE TO KEEP YOU IN THE LOOP ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

FINALLY, I HAVE TO MENTION THAT WE WILL BE GOING FOR THE CITY HEALTH GOLD MEDAL THIS YEAR.

AND THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE TO HAVE FIVE GOLD MEDALS IN INDIVIDUAL POLICY AREAS.

WHERE YOU SEE WE HAVE A CHECK, WE ALREADY HAVE THAT GOLD MEDAL.

WHERE YOU SEE A PLUS, THAT MEANS THAT WE NEED.

WE NEED TO HAVE FIVE, AND I'M A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS ABOUT COUNTING EARNED SICK LEAVE AS A DONE DEAL.

SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO HAVE SIX, JUST IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT WHEN THEY DO THE ASSESSMENT.

SO THE TWO AREAS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE FOCUSING ON ARE COMPLETE STREETS AND HEALTHY FOOD PROCUREMENT.

SO THE HEALTHY FOOD PROCUREMENT IS AN INTERNAL PROCESS THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO ESTABLISH TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FOOD WE ORDER FOR EVENTS AND OTHER INITIATIVES IS HEALTHY.

AND THEN COMPLETE STREETS IS WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE LOTS OF OPPORTUNITY TO USE THE STREETS FOR THINGS OTHER THAN CARS AND BUSES.

SO THAT LAST SLIDE IS JUST A REMINDER THAT WE'VE HAD A REALLY GOOD YEAR AND WE HOPE TO HAVE ANOTHER REALLY GOOD YEAR NEXT YEAR AS WELL.

SO WITH THAT, I WILL END MY PRESENTATION AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DR. BRIDGER.

YOU AND YOUR STAFF ARE DOING WONDERFUL WORK.

I DO APPRECIATE THE AGGRESSIVE NATURE IN WHICH YOU'RE TAKING ON YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES.

IT'S VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.

I ONLY HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

ONE IS WITH REGARD TO THE MEASUREMENTS.

IT'S NEW TO ME THAT YOU WERE SEEKING ACCREDITATION.

I THINK IT'S GREAT.

MY QUESTION IS WITH REGARD TO THE ALIGNMENT OF THE 100 MEASURES, HOW DOES THAT RELATE, OR DOES IT

>> AND ACCREDITATION IS MORE BASED ON PROCESS THAT YOU USE TO ACHIEVE THOSE OUTCOMES.

SO IT WILL COMPLEMENT, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE ANY ONE FOR ONE ALIGNMENT.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: OKAY.

OKAY.

THE ONLY OTHER THING I'D SAY IS THE ACE WORK, I THINK, COULD BEAR TREMENDOUS FRUIT FOR THIS COMMUNITY BASED ON JUST THE DATA THAT YOU SHOWED US.

YOU KNOW, DIABETES, OBESITY.

BUT ALL THE OTHER ISSUES THAT HAVE PLAGUED US FOR A LONG TIME.

THERE IS A NUMBER OF COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE BEEN LASER FOCUSED ON ACE-TYPE WORK IN THEIR OWN DISTRICTS, BUT JUST GENERALLY AS IT RELATES TO THEIR POLICY PRIORITIES.

AND I THINK THAT ANYTHING THAT WE CAN HELP WITH TO FURTHER DEVELOP THAT AREA WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WELCOMED.

SO KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK.

THANK YOU, DR. BRIDGER.

SORRY.

LET ME GET TO THE QUEUE.

COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN.

>> VIAGRAN: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU, COLLEEN, FOR GOING SO FAST.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> VIAGRAN: BUT I THINK IT'S GOOD INFORMATION AND THE UPDATE IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US AS WELL.

AND THESE ISSUES, UNFORTUNATELY, AREN'T NEW OR SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT.

BUT THE THINK THE STRATEGIC WAY IN WHICH WE'RE DOING IT IS VERY IMPORTANT.

AND I WANT TO ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE -- I FIRST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOOD INITIATIVE.

AND THANK YOU FOR THE VIDEO, BECAUSE IT REALLY IS AMAZING HOW WE'RE CELEBRATING JUST WALKING TO SCHOOL AGAIN AND HOW THAT IS A BIG DEAL.

BUT IT IS AND WE NEED A SAFE ENVIRONMENT WITH VISION ZERO AND WITH SIDEWALKS AND WITH FAMILIES THERE TOGETHER TO MAKE IT A CELEBRATION WALKING TO SCHOOL.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOOD INITIATIVE AND THE WORKERS, SPECIFICALLY, IN THE MISSION ESPADA AREA.

THEY WORK REALLY HARD WITH OUR

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NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND I WANT TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR WORK THAT THEY DID DURING THE WORLD HERITAGE FESTIVAL.

WE HAD OUR WORLD HERITAGE FESTIVAL 5K.

IT WAS A CREATIVE COLLABORATION THAT WE WORKED WITH PRIVATE BUSINESS OWNERS AND OTHERS TO BE SURE -- AND MY OFFICE -- TO BE SURE THAT WE PROVIDED THOSE SCHOLARSHIPS SO THE MEMBERS OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD COULD PARTICIPATE IN THE 5K.

SO WE HAD FAMILIES.

WE HAD YOUNG KIDS.

WE HAD THE PARENTS.

WE HAD THEM ALL OUT THERE.

AND SOME OF THEM WERE NERVOUS.

IT WAS SO EARLY IN THE MORNING AND THEY WERE NERVOUS ABOUT IF THEY WERE EVEN GOING TO SURVIVE DOING A 5K.

BUT THEY DID.

THE LITTLE KIDS, YOU KNOW, THEY ALL RAN THROUGH THE FINISH LINE AND THEY WERE SO PROUD OF THE MEDALS THAT THEY GOT AND THE T-SHIRTS THAT THEY HAD.

AND IT WAS JUST THAT LITTLE STEP TO LET THEM SEE THAT THEY COULD PART OF A LARGER COMMUNITY IN THAT ASPECT.

SO THE HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOOD INITIATIVE IS ALSO OPENING UP OTHER REALMS FOR PEOPLE THAT MAYBE THEY HAVE NOT SEEN BEFORE.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND YOU HAVE SOME GREAT WORKERS IN THAT AREA AS WELL.

AND, FINALLY, WITH THE WORK OF DIABETES AND IMMUNIZATIONS AND OTHER THINGS AND THE HEALTHY CORNER STORE'S PROJECT, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE OTHER COLLABORATION WE'RE DOING WITH OUR NONPROFITS, WITH THE UIW MEDICAL SCHOOL AND WITH OTHER ENTITIES AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, SOUTHSIDE ISD.

BECAUSE WORKING TOGETHER COLLABORATIVELY, WE ARE GOING TO MAKE SOME GREAT STRIDES.

AND I THINK OUR PARTNERSHIP IS GOING TO BE VERY STRONG.

AND I'M REALLY PROUD OF WHAT WE'RE DOING TO REALLY MOVE THAT NEEDLE, SPECIFICALLY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU YOUR TEAM.

THANK YOU, SHERYL, BECAUSE IT'S TAKEN ALL OF US TOGETHER TO MOVE THAT NEEDLE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN.

COUNCILMAN COURAGE.

>> COURAGE: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I THINK THIS IS A GREAT REPORT.

IT GIVES US SOME GOOD INSIGHT INTO THE CONDITION OF OUR HEALTH AND WHERE WE'RE LOOKING TO MOVE FORWARD.

ONE THING I DIDN'T SEE MUCH OF, AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW YOU CAN DEVELOP A WAY OF TRACKING THE SUCCESS OF TOBACCO 21.

YOUR DEPARTMENT REALLY IS CHARGED WITH ENSURING COMPLIANCE, FOR EXAMPLE.

AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO TRACK COMPLIANCE.

BUT EVEN MORE THAN THAT, HOW ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO TRACK THE EFFECT OF THIS ON REDUCING SMOKING AMONG TEENAGERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

IS THERE A WAY OF TRACKING THESE AND LETTING US KNOW ABOUT THEM?

>> YES, SIR.

WE HAVE STARTED THE BASELINE DATA COLLECTION BEFORE IT WENT INTO EFFECT OCTOBER 1ST.

AND THEN WE WILL DO A ONE-YEAR POST IMPLEMENTATION EVALUATION BY GOING BACK TO THOSE SAME SCHOOLS.

WE WON'T ASK THE SAME KIDS, BUT WE'LL HAVE A BIG ENOUGH SAMPLE SIZE WHERE WE'LL GO BACK TO THOSE SAME SCHOOLS AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO ESTIMATE IF THERE'S BEEN A DECREASE IN THE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS THAT ARE SMOKING OR USING TOBACCO PRODUCTS.

WE DO HAVE THE EVALUATION PLAN IN PLACE.

WE'VE DONE THE BASELINE DATA COLLECTION, AND A YEAR FROM NOW WE WILL DO THE ONE-YEAR POST IMPLEMENTATION DATA COLLECTION.

>> COURAGE: WELL, GOOD.

I HOPE I'M AROUND A YEAR FROM NOW TO SEE IT IN A B SESSION OR AT LEAST READ ABOUT IT IN THE NEWSPAPER.

THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN COURAGE.

COUNCILMAN PELAEZ.

>> PELAEZ: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

DR. BRIDGER, THANKS.

THIS IS EXCELLENT.

EVERYTHING YOU DO IS EXCELLENT.

BUT I NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.

THIS IS ALL LAUDABLE BUT FOR NAUGHT IF WE'RE NOT COGNIZANT THAT A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO REACH HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO ACCESS TO INFORMATION BECAUSE OF THIS DIVIDE THAT THEY FIND THEMSELVES VICTIMS OF.

I'D LIKE TO VISIT WITH YOU AT A LATER DATE TO TALK ABOUT HOW IT IS THAT YOU'RE GETTING ALL THESE GOOD RESOURCES OUT TO PEOPLE, LIKE AT CASSIANA HOMES.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW BUT SAHA IMPLEMENTED A WIRELESS NETWORK USING SOLAR PANELS, SOMETHING THEY INVENTED, AND GOT A HUGE GRANT TO DO IT.

REALLY EXCITING.

I THINK THERE'S LESSONS TO BE LEARNED FROM PARTNERS AND HOW THEY'RE MAKING IT EASIER FOR US TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT.

SO THE ONLY PRESSURE YOU'RE GOING TO GET FROM ME GOING FORWARD IS TO EXHAUST ALL AVENUES TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE GETTING THE INFORMATION, EVERY SINGLE MEDIUM WE COULD POSSIBLY GET TO THEM.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN PELAEZ.

COUNCILWOMAN GONZALES.

>> GONZALES: THANK YOU.

COLLEEN, WHAT IS YOUR TOTAL BUDGET?

>> CITY OR TOTAL?

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>> GONZALES: REMIND ME.

I KNOW WE HAD A BRIEFING NOT SO LONG AGO, BUT REMIND ME THE CITY AND THEN THE GRANT.

>> SO MY TOTAL BUDGET IS ABOUT $44 MILLION.

AND THEN OF THAT THE CITY FUNDS A NET OF ABOUT $5 MILLION.

AND THE REST IS GRANTS, STATE AND FEDERAL.

A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY THAT WE BRING IN FROM FEES AND BILLING FOR MEDICAL SERVICES.

>> GONZALES: OKAY.

AND WHERE ARE YOUR OFFICES?

>> AND SO MY -- SO THE TOTAL GENERAL FUND BUDGET'S ABOUT $13 MILLION.

>> GONZALES: $13 MILLION GENERAL FUND?

>> YES.

OF THE 44.

>> GONZALES: OKAY.

SO $13 MILLION, NOT $5 MILLION.

>> SO I SAY IT THAT WAY BECAUSE OF THE $13 MILLION, LIKE THE REVENUES THAT WE BRING IN FOR RESTAURANT INSPECTIONS COUNT IN THAT.

SO I SUBTRACT THAT OUT.

>> GONZALES: BUT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY -- DO THEY HAVE TO GO TO STAFF FOR RESTAURANTS OR CAN THEY BE USED FOR ANY NEEDS YOU HAVE?

>> NO, IT GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUND.

THE MONEY WE COLLECT THROUGH RESTAURANT INSPECTIONS GOES TO THE GENERAL FUND.

BUT I LIKE TO THINK OF THE NET AS WHAT IT COSTS THE CITY TO OPERATE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS ABOUT THAT $5 MILLION.

>> GONZALES: OKAY.

AND WHERE ARE YOUR OFFICES?

>> ALL OVER THE PLACE.

WE HAVE 28 DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

>> GONZALES: OKAY.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE ONE -- BECAUSE IT USED TO BE OVER HERE BUT THAT'S BEEN QUITE A WHILE.

>> WHEN WE MOVED FROM OVER THERE WE WERE ALREADY IN MULTIPLE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AND WE JUST CONTINUED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE DELIVERING SERVICES IN THE AREA THAT NEEDED US THE MOST.

>> GONZALES: IS THAT THE MODEL FOR THE SHORT TERM? TO CONTINUE TO STAY IN THAT TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT?

>> YES.

>> GONZALES: OKAY.

AND SO I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS HOW MUCH OF YOUR BUDGET GOES TO THESE ITEMS? CAN YOU BREAK IT DOWN? THAT GOES INTO THIS PARTICULAR ACTION.

BECAUSE I FORGOT THAT YOU HAVE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AS WELL THAT DOES KITCHEN INSPECTIONS AND FOOD INSPECTIONS AND ALL THAT.

>> SO I CAN GET YOU THAT INFORMATION.

GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE SERVICES PROVIDED FOR DIABETES AND OBESITY PREVENTION ARE FUNDED BY THE 1115 WAIVER.

OZONE IS MOSTLY FUNDED BY THE CITY.

AND THE -- I MEAN, THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING AROUND ACES, WE WERE FORTUNATE TO GET A NEW POSITION IN THIS BUDGET, AND THAT'S A NEW PROJECT.

SO IT'S HARD TO REALLY QUANTIFY THAT.

BUT WE DID GET $68,000 FROM THE CITY THIS YEAR TO HIRE A PERSON TO DO THAT WORK.

>> GONZALES: OKAY.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S SORT OF WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET AT IS PERHAPS WE NEED TO REEVALUATE THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR BUDGETS FOR NEXT TIME.

I RECOGNIZE WE'RE NOT BRAND NEW CYCLE, BUT I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME THINKING ABOUT THIS AND SORT OF HOW WE PRIORITIZE THE NEEDS OF OUR CITY, WHICH ARE IMMENSE.

AND, OF COURSE, THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE CARE ABOUT STREETS AND CONGESTION, NOT AIRPORTS, LIKE WAS JUST DISCUSSED.

WHEN I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT IMMERSED IN A COMMUNITY THAT HAS SOME OF THESE SEVERE PROBLEMS, YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT IT EVERY DAY LIKE WE DO IN OUR WORLD, WHERE I LIVE.

WE SEE IT VISUALLY EVERY DAY.

AND SO IT HAS BECOME A PRIORITY, I KNOW FOR ME AND FOR MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES, BUT PERHAPS WE CAN EVALUATE THAT FOR THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE HOW WE FUND THOSE PROGRAMS. AND THE PEOPLE LIKE THE COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKERS, SO JENNIFER LOPEZ, JLO, WE CALL HER IN THE DISTRICT, JENNY FROM THE BLOCK.

I SEE HER A LOT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO JOIN SOME OF THOSE KIDS A COUPLE MORNINGS AGO WHEN WE HAD A NATIONAL WALK TO SCHOOL DAY.

AND IT WAS OF COURSE A GREAT FUN ENVIRONMENT AND THEY HAD, YOU KNOW, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS OUT THERE AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WELL, THEY'RE OUT THERE EVERY DAY BUT THEY HAD THE MCGRUFF.

IT WAS A REALLY FUN ACTIVITY.

AND I KNOW WHAT THEY WERE HOPING TO DO IS IMPROVE ATTENDANCE.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY'LL HAVE THAT DATA TO REPORT BACK.

I THINK THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT EVERY YEAR -- EVERY MONDAY AND FRIDAY STARTING THIS SCHOOL YEAR.

SO HOPEFULLY THEY'LL GET BACK TO US WITHIN THE SCHOOL YEAR AND SEE IF IT DID IMPROVE ATTENDANCE

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AT THE ELEMENTARY WHICH IS ALSO IN THE HEART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT I THINK MY LAST -- I THINK THAT'S MAYBE ALL I HAVE REGARDING, YOU KNOW, SORT OF THESE FUNDING DOLLARS AND HOW WE KIND OF PRIORITIZE THE NEEDS.

BECAUSE WHILE I'M GLAD TO SEE IT IS TRENDING DOWN, IT'S TRENDING POSITIVE.

IT'S STILL AN ENORMOUS PROBLEM.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, SHOWING THE GRAPHS HERE DON'T REALLY EXPRESS THE ENORMITY OF THE PROBLEM.

BECAUSE WE ARE TRENDING DOWN BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY SHOW THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE SUFFERING.

WHEN YOU SORT OF PUT A FACE TO IT OR YOU THINK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE SUFFERING FROM CHILDHOOD ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THAT DATA OR NOT, PERHAPS YOU DO.

>> THE ONLY DATA I HAVE IS FOR TEXAS.

15% OF KIDS IN TEXAS HAVE FOUR OR MORE ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES.

YOU CAN DO SOME ROUGH MATH AND COME UP WITH WHAT THAT IS.

BUT THAT'S A LOT OF KIDS IN BEXAR COUNTY.

>> GONZALES: I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR A FUTURE SESSION THAT WE DO GET THAT.

THAT NUMBER, PERHAPS HOW MANY CHILDREN THAT IS.

BECAUSE THEN MAYBE IT MEANS WE NEED TO DIRECT MORE FUNDS TOWARDS HELPING THE POPULATION.

BECAUSE, OF COURSE, IT IS RELATED TO SO MANY OTHER PROBLEMS LIKE THE NUMBER OF OPPORTUNITY YOUTH THAT WE HAVE IN OUR DISTRICT AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NEEDING ACCESS TO SERVICES IN OUR JAIL POPULATION OR OUR HOSPITAL POPULATION OR MENTAL HEALTH POPULATION.

AND SO MAKING ALL THOSE CONNECTIONS I THINK WOULD BE REALLY -- AND ADDICTION AS WELL.

THAT WAS ANOTHER ONE THAT CAME UP.

>> AND SUICIDE.

>> GONZALES: SO THAT ONE WAS NOT EVEN ON MY RADAR.

YOU KNOW, HOW WE CONTINUE TO EVOLVE AS A CITY, PERHAPS IF WE REALLY PUT A NUMBER TO WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

EVEN THOUGH WE DO SHOW PERHAPS A 2% DECLINE, DOES THAT STILL MEAN 30,000 PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING? OR WHAT MIGHT THAT LOOK LIKE? I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THAT IN YOUR NEXT PRESENTATION.

SO THANK YOU, DR. BRIDGER.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN GONZALES.

COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL.

>> SANDOVAL: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I REALLY WANT TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN GONZALES, NOT JUST FOR ALL THE WORK THAT SHE'S DONE IN THIS AREA, BUT FOR HER COMMENTS TODAY.

I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AS WE GO FORWARD.

WE HAVE, AS THE COUNCILWOMAN STATED, SOME REALLY DIRE OUTCOMES, HEALTH OUTCOMES HERE IN OUR COUNTY.

AND I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE TAKING -- WE'RE SORT OF STEPPING UP AND TAKING SOME RESPONSIBILITY -- NOT RESPONSIBILITY, BUT TRYING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM FOR IT AS A LOCAL GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY.

I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION -- SEVERAL QUESTIONS, ACTUALLY.

SORRY, WRAPPING UP THAT POINT.

WHEN THE TIME COMES WILL WE HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT HOW WE CAN HELP SHAPE THE BUDGET SO THAT IT BEGINS TO MEET THOSE NEEDS MORE?

>> YES.

>> SANDOVAL: IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WILL BE BRINGING BACK? YOU'RE DOING A SURVEY RIGHT NOW THAT'S GOING TO GET US SOME ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS.

>> YES.

SO THE TIMING IS INTENTIONAL SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT THE THREE PRIORITIES ARE BEFORE BUDGET SEASON STARTS.

SO WE CAN COME TO YOUR COMMITTEE AND PRESENT THOSE AND HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

>> SCULLEY: MAYOR, I WOULD JUST ADD TO THAT THAT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD CONVERSATION FOR THE GOAL-SETTING SESSION.

SO THAT AS WE TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE POLICY PRIORITIES OF THE COUNCIL YOU CAN GIVE US DIRECTION AS TO HOW YOU WANT THE BUDGET INCREASED IN PARTICULAR AREAS OR HOW WE WANT TO SHIFT THE EMPHASIS.

>> SANDOVAL: OKAY.

ONE THING THAT -- I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO THE SURVEY AND YOU'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOU MY RECOMMENDATIONS NOW.

YOU HAD QUITE A NUMBER OF SLIDES ABOUT NEIGHBORHOODS, NUTRITION CLASSES, EDUCATION, AND HOW PEOPLE CAN SORT OF TAKE CHARGE OF THEIR OWN HEALTH.

BUT YOU KNOW, HAVING A PUBLIC HEALTH BACKGROUND, THAT PART OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE PROVIDE PEOPLE.

NOT JUST OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT WHAT CHOICES THEY HAVE AT THE PLACES THAT THEY DO GO SHOP.

AND I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING IN DISTRICT 3 ON A HEALTHY FOOD INITIATIVE.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS SOME SORT OF PARTNERSHIP WITH FOOD RETAIL OUTLETS, AS WELL, TO MAKE THAT EASIER ON PEOPLE TO ALSO

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BEGIN PROVIDING THAT ENVIRONMENT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.

>> YES.

I'M SMILING BECAUSE ERIK HAD THAT SAME IDEA THAT HE SHARED WITH ME A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

>> SANDOVAL: OH, I THINK HE TOLD ME.

>> WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

>> SANDOVAL: THAT'S EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU.

I ALSO HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE -- A WHILE BACK WE HEARD A PRESENTATION -- THIS IS MAYBE A YEAR AGO -- ABOUT THERE BEING A DECLINE IN THE USAGE OF THE WIC CLINICS.

AND I THINK THE IDEA -- THERE WAS A THOUGHT THAT MAYBE THERE WAS SOME MISTRUST OF GOVERNMENT BECAUSE OF THE CRACKDOWN ON IMMIGRATION.

WHAT ARE WE SEEING NOW?

>> SO IT'S GOOD AND BAD.

THE DECLINE HAS STOPPED BUT WE HAVE NOT GONE BACK TO WHAT WE WERE PREVIOUSLY.

OUR GOAL IS TO BE RIGHT AROUND 38,000 WIC VISITS A MONTH.

AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT ABOUT 33 TO 34,000.

IT DROPPED AS LOW AS I WANT TO SAY 31,000.

BUT IT'S BEEN PRETTY STABLE AT THAT 33, 34,000 FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID THAT SEEMED TO HELP A LOT WAS WE RAN RADIO ADS ON OUR SPANISH LANGUAGE RADIOS LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAD IDENTIFIED MEDICAL CLINICS AS EXEMPT FROM ICE RAIDS.

AND THAT WIC CLINICS WERE CONSIDERED MEDICAL CLINICS.

AND SO FOLKS COULD FEEL COMFORTABLE COMING TO THE WIC CLINIC AND NOT FEARING FOR AN ICE RAID.

SO, I MEAN, IT WAS AMAZING THE CORRELATION BETWEEN WHEN THE AD RAN AT 11:00 AND WHEN OUR PHONE STARTED RINGING AT 11:05.

SO WE KNOW THAT THAT WAS SUCCESSFUL.

SO WE'RE REPLICATING THAT.

WE ACTUALLY GOT SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM THE STATE WIC OFFICE TO DO MORE OF THAT.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING.

ANOTHER THING WE KNOW THAT WORKS IS WORD OF MOUTH.

AND SO REALLY WHEN FOLKS COME TO THE WIC CLINIC, MAKING SURE TO BE INTENTIONAL AND SAYING PLEASE LET, PLEASE LET YOUR FRIENDS AN FAMILY NO, THIS IS A SAFE PLACE, WE HAVE BILINGUAL STAFF.

THIS IS AN IMPORTANT STEP TO MAKING SURE YOUR FAMILY HAS ACCESS TO HEALTHY FOODS.

>> SANDOVAL: THANK YOU.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

ALSO IN YOUR SURVEY THAT YOU'RE PUTTING OUT, YOU'RE SHOOTING FOR 1,000 RESPONSES.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY YOU HAVE?

>> DR. BRIDGER: LAST I HEARD, WE HAD 700.

SO WE MAY SEE THAT.

>> SANDOVAL: THAT'S GREAT.

WE'RE PUTTING IT OUT IN OUR NEWSLETTER.

LET US KNOW IF THERE ARE OTHER THINGS WE CAN DO TO ASSIST.

>> DR. BRIDGER: EACH OF YOU HAS RECEIVED AN E-MAIL FROM MY OFFICE WITH THE LINK FROM THE SURVEY ASKING FOR YOU TO PLEASE SHARE THIS.

IF NOT, LET ME KNOW.

>> SANDOVAL: DO YOU DO PAPER SURVEYS?

>> DR. BRIDGER: WE DO DO PAPER SURVEYS.

WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT AS WELL.

AND IT'S IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH.

>> SANDOVAL: WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE YOUR WORK.

>> DR. BRIDGER: THANK YOU.

[Executive Session]

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL.

THANK YOU DR. BRIDGER.

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE ONE ITEM IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THE TIME IS 4:33 P.M. ON THIS 31ST DAY OF OCTOBER, 2018.

PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORITY GRANTED BY CHAPTER 551 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, THE TEXAS OPENS MEETINGS ACT, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.