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TAKEN. SO OUR A SESSION IS NOW ADJOURNED.

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WE'LL CALL OUR ZONING AND LAND USE SESSION TO ORDER AT 2:42 P.M.

[ Roll Call  ]

MADAM CLERK, COULD YOU READ THE ROLL.

>> CLERK: MAYOR, WE HAVE A QUORUM. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: ALL

[Public Hearing and Consideration of the following Adoption and Amendments of the Neighborhood, Community and Perimeter Plans as Components of the Master Plan and Zoning Cases. Plan amendments and Zoning cases presented by Roderick Sanchez, Assistant City Manager; Michael Shannon, Director, Development Services unless otherwise noted.  ]

RIGHT. WELCOME EVERYONE. WE HAVE A FEW ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE CONTINUED TO JANUARY 18TH, AND THEN WE HAVE A FEW ITEMS THAT WILL BE HEARD INDIVIDUALLY. I'LL START WORKING THROUGH THOSE SO WE CAN CLEAR THOSE AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE WILL BE HEARD ON CONSENT. SO FIRST TASK IS TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER ITEMS TO PULL OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA. RIGHT NOW THE ITEMS TO CONTINUE TO JANUARY 18TH ARE ITEM 26 AND 35. WE HAVE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS THAT WILL BE HEARD INDIVIDUALLY. ITEMS 3, 16, 17, 29, 30, 46 AND 47. AND THEN WE HAVE ONE ITEM, ITEM 4, THAT WILL BE POSTPONED. EVERYTHING ELSE IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ITEMS 1 THROUGH 50 EXCEPT FOR THE ONES I JUST READ. AT THIS TIME I'LL ASK MY COLLEAGUES IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER ITEMS TO BE PULLED OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA TO BE HEARD INDIVIDUALLY. OKAY. I'M GOING TO READ THE FOLLOWING -- READ THE ITEM NUMBERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON CONSENT AND THEN I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION FOR THE CONSENT ZONING AGENDA. HERE THEY ARE, ITEM 1, 2, 5, --.

SO LET ME START OVER. ITEM 2 WILL BE CONTINUED TO JANUARY 18TH.

SO THE FOLLOWING ITEMS NOW WILL BE HEARD ON CONSENT. ITEMS 1, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 27, 28, 31, 32, 33, 34, 36, 37, 38, 49, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 48, 49 AND 50. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR

THOSE ITEMS. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> I JUST WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD FOR AGENDA ITEM 6 THAT IS ON CONSENT, THE

APPLICANT IS AMENDING HEIGHT FROM 150 FEET TO 120 FEET. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: OKAY.

THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE CONSENT ZONING AGENDA.

WE DO HAVE ONE ITEM -- EXCUSE ME, ONE CITIZEN SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON CONSENT, JACK FINGER. AND JACK, YOU ARE SPEAKING ON ITEMS 20 AND THAT'S IT.

THE REST OF THEM ARE INDIVIDUAL. >> AND NUMBER 1.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: AND NUMBER 1. >> WELL, VERY GOOD, ANYWHERE YOU'RE MAYOR NIRENBERG, OTHER MOBILE HOMES OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

FOR THE RECORD I'M JACK M. FINGER AND I'M GOING TO GIVE AN EARLY CHRISTMAS GIFT, I'LL FOREGO ITEM 20. ITEM 1 IS DEAR TO MY HEART AND THIS IS IN DISTRICT 1, COUNCILWOMAN KAUR'S DISTRICT. AND SO WHAT IS IT? WELL, IT'S ABOUT AN ALCOHOL VARIANCE. YEAH.

THE BASICALLY -- TEXAS ALCOHOL AND -- COMMISSION HAS SAID THAT IT DOES NOT WANT ALCOHOL BEING SOLD WITHIN 300 FEET OF A SCHOOL. OR A HIGH SCHOOL OR ELEMENTARY OR COLLEGE, WHEREVER THERE YOU SEE. AND FOR GOOD REASON.

THEY DON'T WANT THE INFLUENCE ON SCHOOL KIDS WHO MIGHT BE PLAYING IN A SCHOOL YARD NEARBY. AND SO BUT MS. KAUR, I NOTICE THAT IN YOUR DISTRICT THIS ITEM DEALING WITH ALCOHOL VARIANCE ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL TO VOTE YES TO SERVING ALCOHOL IS RIGHT NEAR SAN ANTONIO COLLEGE. THAT'S RIGHT, AND, OF

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COURSE, NEAR THE TRAVIS EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL. MS. KAUR, I -- WHY NOT JUST SAY NO TO THE SALES OF ALCOHOL NEAR THE SCHOOLS THERE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE GROWING UP TO BE ALCOHOLICS. AS THE CIRCUMSTANCES TEND TO WORK OUT, YOU KNOW. JUST SAY NO TO THIS ONE, IF YOU WOULD, MADAM.

FOR THAT MATTER, EVERYBODY ELSE. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, MR. FINGER. DANIEL ORTIZ ON ITEM 44.

YOU ARE WAIVING YOUR TIME. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S EVERYONE WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEMS THAT ARE REMAINING ON CONSENT. WE'LL MOVE TO COUNCIL DISCUSSION. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? OKAY. HEARING NONE, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT ZONING AGENDA. YOU HEARD THE NUMBERS

CALLED. PLEASE VOTE. >> THAT WOULD BE AS AMENDED,

MAYOR. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: AS AMENDED.

>> THANK YOU. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY.

AGAIN, IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM 4, THAT'S NO LONGER ON THE AGENDA. IT'S POSTPONED. SO I WILL NOT BE CALLING FOLKS' NAMES THAT SIGNED UP ON ITEM 4 BECAUSE THAT WILL BE HEARD AT A LATER DATE.

WE'LL MOVE NOW INTO -- DID WE ALREADY DO CONTINUED ITEMS? NO, WE DIDN'T. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR 2, 36 AND 35 TO BE CONTINUED TO JANUARY 15TH. THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FOR CONTINUANCE OF ITEMS 2, 26 AND 35. TO JANUARY 18TH. I DON'T SEE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THOSE ITEMS. IS THERE ANY COUNCIL DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. WE'LL GO TO THE INDIVIDUAL

ITEMS STARTING WITH ITEM NUMBER 3. >> STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL, ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS.

25 NOTICES MAILED, FOUR IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AB TWO IN FAVOR OUTSIDE THE

200-FOOT BOUNDARY. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: WE HAVE ONE CITIZEN SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM 3. JACK FINGER. JACK, I INVITE YOU TO SIT ON THE FRONT ROW BECAUSE I'M GOING TO BE CALLING YOUR NAME.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. OTHER MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, ONCE AGAIN, MY NAME IS JACK M. FINGER AND THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 3, ONCE AGAIN, IS IN COUNCILWOMAN KAUR'S DISTRICT. COUNCILWOMAN, THERE IS GOING TO BE -- WE CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF AN INCREASE -- WHAT I CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF INCREASE IN INTENSITY HERE ON THIS PROPOSAL. THE IDEA IS YOU ARE GOING FROM AN OFFICE TO A -- WELL, I GUESS A RESTAURANT OVER HERE ON BASSE ROAD. BIG PROBLEM WHY THERE'S A -- NUMBERS OF RED FLAGS ON THIS ONE AND THE ZONING STAFF SUGGESTED WE DENY THIS ONE.

WHY? WELL, BECAUSE AS THEY SAY IT HAS A BUNCH OF ADVERSARIAL EFFECTS. IT WILL BE OPEN -- IT WILL BE UPON AN ESTABLISHMENT ALREADY ESTABLISHED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL BLOCK.

AND WITH A RESTAURANT YOU HAVE EVEN MORE TRAFFIC THAN YOU ALREADY WILL HAVE OTHERWISE. WHY NOT JUST FOLLOW THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, MS. KAUR, AND SIMPLY SAY NO TO THIS ONE SO THAT THE RESIDENTS DON'T HAVE TO KEEP DODGING TRAFFIC, MORE TRAFFIC AS THEY BACK OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAYS THERE.

WHAT DO YOU SAY, MS. KAUR? YEAH. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, MR. FINGER. COUNCILMEMBER KAUR.

>> KAUR: I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITIONS AS STATED.

>> SECOND. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: ALL RIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 3 WITH CONDITIONS AS STATED.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES.

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ITEMS 16 AND 17. >> PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

32 NOTICES MAILED, TWO IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED. THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT AND THERE WERE TWO IN FAVOR OUTSIDE THE 200-FOOT BOUNDARY.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: ONE PERSON IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS, JACK FINGER.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS JACK FINGER ONCE AGAIN AND THIS PARTICULAR ZONING CASE IS IN DISTRICT 3, MS. VIAGRAN, YOUR DISTRICT. AND ESSENTIALLY THE ZONING STAFF WENT SO FAR AS TO SAY THEY DENIED -- OR YOU SHOULD DENY BECAUSE OF WHAT? WELL, ONCE AGAIN IT'S PRETTY ADVERSARIAL. YOU ARE GOING TO ASK FOR A MULTI-FAMILY, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX OR SOMETHING RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES. IT DOESN'T REALLY WORK OUT, KIND OF DESTROYS -- STARTS TO DESTROY THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

YES, AND SO CONSEQUENTLY, WELL, IN THEIR WORDS IT WAS JUST TOO DENSE.

SO I THINK WE'VE ALL LIVED IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE YOU START GETTING COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT AND THINGS DO START GETTING KIND OF DENSE AND YOU LONG FOR LIVING OUT IN THE -- WHAT WAS ONCE A RURAL AREA AND NOW BECOME LIKE A DOWNTOWN.

YEAH. MS. VIAGRAN, PLEASE, AS WE SAY, IS A NOTICE TO THIS

ONE. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK

YOU, MR. FINGER. COUNCILMEMBER VIAGRAN. >> VIAGRAN: THANK YOU TO THE APPLICANT FOR WORKING WITH THE HARLANDALE-MA COLUMBIA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AS WELL AS MY OFFICE. RECENTLY WE'VE SEEN SEVERAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND IN THE INNERCITY CLOSE DOWN MULTIPLE FACILITIES CITING LACK OF ATTAINABLE HOUSING. I SEE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SUBMITTED A LETTER OF SUPPORT AS WELL AS A PETITION WITH SEVERAL SIGNATURES FROM OTHER NEIGHBORS IN SUPPORT. THIS CASE WAS VETTED BY BOTH THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION TO HELP US DETERMINE IF THIS INFILL DEVELOPMENT AND DENSITY IS APPROPRIATE. SO WE DETERMINED IT IS AND

I'LL MAKE THE FOLLOWING MOTION, MOTION TO APPROVE. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER VIAGRAN. THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS 16 AND 17. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES. ITEMS 29 AND 30. >> STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS. NO OUTSIDE SPEAKERS, NO TEMPORARY SIGNS, SNIPE SIGNS OR WIND WAIVERS. 46 NOTICES MAILED, TEN IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.

FOUR IN FAVOR OUTSIDE THE 200-FOOT BOUNDARY. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON 29 AND 30. JACK FINGER.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG, OTHER MEMBERS OF OR ILLUSTRIOUS SAN ANTONIO CITY COUNCIL, MY NAME IS JACK M. FINGER AND THIS PARTICULAR ZONING CASE IS IN DISTRICT 5 AS I HAVE NOTICED. MS. CASTILLO. I LOOK AT THE BACKUP DOCUMENTS ON THIS AND ONCE AGAIN THE ZONING STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED DENIAL.

WHY? WELL, BECAUSE -- YEAH, IN THEIR WORDS THE -- YES, COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENTS. COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT. THE IDEA OF -- WELL, YOU'VE BEEN AROUND -- YOU'VE SEEN PLACES, YOU'VE SEEN COMPLAINTS ABOUT BUSINESSES, BOTH BIG AND SMALL ENCROACHING INTO AN AREA. THEY CALL IT -- SOMETIMES IT'S CALLED GENTRIFICATION. YEAH. THE IDEA THAT -- WHAT WAS

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ONCE A NICE -- NICE LITTLE RESIDENTIAL FOR SOME RESIDENCES THERE, IT'S -- SOMEONE WANTS TO PUT A USED CAR LOT THERE. AND FROM THERE EVERYTHING KIND OF STARTED DETERIORATING, JUST GOING DOWNHILL FROM TLLHERE.

YEAH, IT'S -- THE STAFF SAID YES, A VERY ESTABLISHED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES.

SO WHY, MS. CASTILLO, DO YOU REALLY WANT TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD? LITERALLY. SAY NO TO A USED -- ANOTHER USED CAR LOT IN YOUR DISTRICT, AND ESPECIALLY ON FITCH STREET HERE, I BELIEVE IT IS.

THANK YOU. >> MAYOR >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, MELISSA. I MOTION TO APPROVE WITH

CONDITIONS. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: ALL RIGHT.

THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS 29 AND 30 WITH CONDITIONS AS STATED.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES.

ITEMS 46 AND 47. >> CLERK: GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 7000 BLOCK OF NORTH LOOP 1604. STAFF, PLANNING, AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS. 6-FOOT SOLID SCREEN FENCE ON THE C-2 CD ABUTTING RESIDENTIAL ZONING AND/OR USES. 86 NOTICES MAILED, ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND THERE WERE TWO IN FAVOR OUTSIDE THE 200-FOOT BOUNDARY.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: ALL RIGHT. THIS IS AN ITEM -- EXCUSE ME,

THIS IS IN DISTRICT 10. COUNCILMEMBER WHYTE. >> WHYTE: YEAH.

JUST WANT TO THANK THE APPLICANT AS WELL AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS. ALWAYS LIKE TO SEE COLLABORATION ON THESE KIND OF THINGS AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE WE WERE ABLE TO GET AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORS AND THE APPLICANT ON HOW THIS PROJECT SHOULD MOVE FORWARD. SO AFTER TALKS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A LETTER OF INTENT TO ADDRESS THE NEIGHBORS' CONCERNS

AND I MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE LETTER OF INTENT ATTACHED. >> CLERK: AND THE CONDITIONS

AS READ. >> WHYTE: YES. >> CLERK: THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS 46 AND 47 WITH CONDITIONS AS STATED. LETTER IS BEING PUT INTO THE RECORD.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. THAT IS THE BALANCE OF OUR AGENDA. THE TIME IS 3:01 P.M. ON DECEMBER 7, 2023 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.



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