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>> GOOD AFTERNOON, WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL B SESSION OF SEPTEMBER 18, 2019.

COUNCI COUNCILMEMBER SANDOVAL WILL T NOT BE HERE TODAY, SHE'S ILL TODAY.

>> MAYOR, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, WELCOME TO

[1. 19-6746 Briefing on the Biannual High Profile Report for Fiscal Year 2020. [Ben Gorzell, Chief Financial Officer; Troy Elliott, Deputy Chief Financial Officer]]

THE CITY COUNCIL B SESSION.

THE TIME IS 2:16 P.M.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENT.

WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, FIRST WITH THE HIGH-PROFILE BIANNUAL REPORTS, WE WILL TURN IT OVER TO ERIC, THE CITY MANAGER.

>> THE FIRST ITEM IS A BRIEFING, A BIANNUAL FORECAST BRIEFING OF HIGH-PROFILE PROCUREMENTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2020.

MANY OF YOU WILL RECALL THAT THE COUNCIL ASKED US TO REVISIT THE PROCESS FOR HIGH-PROFILE CONTRACTS, AND WE HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS AT THE AUDIT AND CONTRACT COMMITTEE.

PART OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE TWICE A YEAR WE COME TO COUNCIL WITH A FORECAST OF WHAT THE HIGH-PROFILE PROCUREMENTS ARE.

AS WE GO THROUGH THEM, IT GIVES YOU AS A BODY, GROUP ALTOGETHER AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THAT FORECAST AND IDENTIFY THOSE ITEMS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BOTH PRE AND P POSTSOLICITATION BRIEFINGS AT A B SESSION RATHER THAN THROUGH THE AUDIT COMMITTEE.

TROY WILL WALK THROUGH THAT.

HIGH-PROFILE IS A SOLICITATION WITH A CONTRACT VALUE OF $1 MILLION OR MORE.

HIGH LEVEL OF COMMUNITY INTEREST OR HIGHLY COMPLEX OR TECHNICAL IN NATURE.

YOU WILL SEE THAT ON THE LIST THAT TROY WILL GO THROUGH.

ALL OF THE PROCUREMENTS WILL CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE TO REVIEW THE PROCESS.

AND WE BELIEVE THAT THIS RECOMMENDED APPROACH INCREASES TRANSPARENCY, GIVES YOU ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WAY IN ADVANCE OF SOMETHING TO BE INCLUDED IN THE A SESSION AGENDA.

SO THAT -- TROY WILL KICK US OFF ON THAT ISSUE, AND I DID WANT TO SHARE, HE'LL PROBABLY INCLUDE IT, THERE WAS A PRELIMINARY CONVERSATION ON THIS PRESENTATION ON THE LIST THAT YOU WILL SEE WITH THE AUDIT AND CONTRACT COMMITTEE YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.

TROY.

>> YES, SIR.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AS THE CITY MANAGER SAID I WILL FOCUS ON PROGIMARILY TWO AREAS IN THE PRESENTATION.

SOME OF THE STAFF ON THE SOLICITATION PROCESS TO INCREASE TRANSPARENCY AND DIALOGUE WITH CITY COUNCIL AND THE AWARENESS WITH THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.

THE SECOND AREA I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS ON IS THE ACTUAL FORECAST.

WE WORKED EXTENSIVELY WITH ALL THE CITY DEPARTMENTS TO COME TOGETHER, PUT TOGETHER A FORECAST FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, OCTOBER THROUGH MARCH.

AND THAT FORECAST WILL BE PRESENTED HERE A LITTLE LATER IN THE PRESENTATION.

EMILY SHOULD HAVE PASSED OUT TO Y'ALL AND YOU SHOULD HAVE AT YOUR DESK A DOCUMENT.

THIS DOCUMENT WILL FOLLOW THE PRESENTATION.

ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES THAT WILL BE IN THIS DOCUMENT, THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME

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ADDITIONAL DETAIL IN HERE.

ONCE I START GOING THROUGH THE FORECAST THAT -- I PRESENT A SLIDE, BEHIND THE SLIDES IN THE DOCUMENT THERE IS ADDITIONAL DETAIL ABOUT EACH OF THE CONTRACTS THAT WE PROPOSE TO RUN THROUGH THE HIGH-PROFILE PROCESS.

THE FIRST SLIDE IS JUST A REMINDER ABOUT WHAT IS A HIGH-PROFILE CONTRACT.

THE HIGH-PROFILE CONTRACT IS A DISCRETIONARY CONTRACT VALUED OVER $1 MILLION.

AS A REMINDER, THE $1 MILLION IS ESTABLISHED THROUGH THE ETHICS CODE, SO THAT WILL NOT BE CHANGING.

A DISCRETIONARY CONTRACT IS JUST THAT.

SOMETHING WE HAVE DISCRETION OVER TO MAKE CHANGES.

LOW-BID CONTRACT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE PROCESS.

IT IS LOW BID, IT AWARDED ON SPECIFICATIONS BASED ON PRICE ALONE.

OTHER ITEMS TO LOOK AT IN ADDITION TO $1 MILLION FOR THE HIGH-PROFILE DEFINITION, DOES IT CREATE A HIGH LEVEL OF COMMUNITY INTEREST OR OTHER INTEREST OR HIGHLY COMPLEX OR TECHNICAL IN NATURE OR CONTRACT TERMS OR CONDITIONS THAT ARE NOT STANDARD, BUT ARE COMPLEX.

IF IT FITS ANY OF THESE AREAS WE BRING IT TO INTO THE HIGH-PROFILE SOLICITATION PROCESS.

COUPLE OTHER ITEMS I WILL SHARE.

THIS ESTABLISHES THE SOLICITATIONS TO BE PRESENTED TO THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE.

WHEN WE PRESENT TO THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNT ACC ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE, SIMILAR TO THE A SESSION AGENDA, WE HAVE ITEMS AND WE PRESENT TO AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE AS WELL.

IF THEY'RE NONROUTINE AND SATISFY THE BUBBLE OF THE LEFT OF ONE MILLION OR MORE, THEN THEY WOULD BE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

IF THEY START MOVING INTO A HIGH LEVEL COMMUNITY INTEREST OR HIGHLY COMPLEX AND TECHNICAL IN NATURE, THEN WE HAVE CITY DEPARTMENTS COME IN AND DO AN INDIVIDUAL BRIEFING TO THE COMMITTEE.

WE HAVE DEVELOPED A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY NOW WITH THE HIGH-PROFILE PROJECT, LOOKING BACK OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE AVERAGE ABOUT 41 SOLICITATIONS A YEAR THAT ARE ISSUED THAT MEET THAT HIGH LEVEL OR HIGH-PROFILE SOLICITATION DEFINITION.

AND YOU CAN SEE, I WENT THROUGH THE INDIVIDUAL CONSENT, LOOKING AT 19, FOR EXAMPLE.

THERE WERE 12 CONSENT ITEMS AND 21 INDIVIDUAL ITEMS FOR A TOTAL OF 33 SOLICITATIONS.

ONE THING I POINT OUT IS ALTHOUGH THERE ARE 33 SOLICITATIONS, ERIC MENTIONED A WHILE AGO, WE GO THROUGH WITH A PRESOLICITATION BRIEFING AND POSTSOLICITATION BRIEFING.

THAT RELATES TO 1,966 BRIEFINGS THROUGH THE COMMITTEE.

A LITTLE BACKGROUND.

A PRESOLICITATION BRIEFING -- AND WE WILL BE RECOMMENDING THAT AS WELL AS FAR AS THE B SESSION, BUT A PRESOLICITATION BRIEFING DOES INCLUDE A BACKGROUND OR HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OR SCOPE, TERM OF THE CONTRACT, THE EVALUATION CRITERIA, THE EVALUATION POINTS, WHO IS MAKING THE EVALUATION TEAM AND WHAT PREFERENCES ARE BEING PROVIDED IN TERMS OF LOCAL VETERANS AND SESEVA.

ONCE WE HAVE -- SEVEDA.

ONCE WE COMPLETE THAT, THE RFP OR RFQ HITS THE STREETS.

WE RETURN BACK TO THE COMMITTEE IN A POSTSOLICITATION BRIEFING IN WHICH WE SHARE THE EVALUATION RESULTS AND THE DUE DILIGENCE FROM MY DEPARTMENT AND KEVIN BARTEL'S DEPARTMENT FROM THE CITY AUDITOR'S OFFICE.

NEXT COUPLE SLIDES HIGHLIGHT THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO THE PROCESS.

FIRST OF ALL, JUST TO REITERATE, THERE IS NO CHANGE TO THE DEFINITION OF A HIGH-PROFILE SOLICITATION.

AS I MENTIONED, IT IS ESTABLISHED IN THE CITY'S ETHICS CODE AS FAR AS ONE MILLION.

ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT, WE'RE LOOKING AT ANOTHER CATEGORY OR CRITERIA THAT WE'RE SKIPPING] TO SET GUIDELINES FOR THOSE THAT WOULD BE PRESENTED AT A B SESSION.

WHICH WE'RE CALLING SELECT.

SO PUTTING THE CRITERIA OR GUIDELINES TOGETHER, WE WENT BACK TO THE HISTORICAL ON THE SLIDE I PRESENTED AND LOOKED FOR COMMON CHARACTERISTICS THAT WOULD REALLY GENERATE A RISE TO THE LEVEL OF B SESSION TO THE FULL COUNCIL.

IN DOING THAT WE CAME UP WITH THE COMMON THEMES OR GUIDELINES THAT THOSE WOULD HAVE A FINANCIAL IMPACT AT $25 MILLION OR GREATER.

A CONTRACT TERM OF 10 YEARS OR MORE.

HIGH LEVEL OF POLICY OR PUBLIC SAFETY IMPLICATIONS, A HIGH LEVEL OF COMMUNITY OR STAKEHOLDER IMPACT OR INTEREST.

THE BOTTOM ONE IS PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT.

WE AS STAFF WORKING THROUGH THE CONTRACTS YEAR OVER YEAR, WE HAVE HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE AS FAR AS WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST AND WE'LL USE THAT TO BASICALLY DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THAT THESE SHOULD BE PRESENTED IN A B SESSION AS A SELECT HIGH-PROFILE CATEGORY.

MOVING TO THE FAR RIGHT BLOCK, AS I MENTIONED, THESE WOULD BE COMING THROUGH TO YOU IN A FORECAST ON SEPTEMBER, WHICH IS THIS MONTH, FOR THE OCTOBER THROUGH MARCH TIME FRAME.

AND THEN WE WOULD BE COMING BACK TO YOU IN FEBRUARY WITH A VERY SIMILAR PRESENTATION.

WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT AS WE RECOMMEND THESE ITEMS THAT ARE

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SELECTED FOR B SESSION PRESENTATION, THAT THEY COME THROUGH Y'ALL TWICE, JUST AS WE DO WITH THE AUDIT COMMITTEE IN A PRESOLICITATION COMMITTEE BEFORE THE RFP GOES OUT ON THE STREETS.

ONCE THE EVALUATION IS CONCLUDED AS A POSTSOLICITATION BRIEFING.

SO THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE SELECTED FOR B SESSION IN THE FAR LEFT BLOCK, AS I MENTIONED THEY WOULD BE COMING THROUGH TWICE A YEAR.

WE WOULD NOT BE RECOMMENDING THAT THE ITEMS GO BACK THROUGH THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY PRESENTATION, THEY COME BACK TO B SESSION TO BE EFFICIENT WITH USE OF TIME AND TO CONCLUDING THE SOLICITATION.

RESPONDENT NAMES WOULD BE PROVIDED AT THE B SESSION.

THIS IS A CHANGE FROM THE PAST.

WE THINK BY PROVIDING THE NAMES OF THE FIRMS THAT HAVE POPOSED WOULD -- PROPOSED WOULD BASICALLY INCREASE TRANSPARENCY AND GIVE COUNCIL AN OPPORTUNITY TO DIALOGUE WITH STAFF, ASK QUESTIONS WHY SPECIFIC FIRMS ARE RECOMMENDED OVER OTHER FIRMS. THERE IS NO CHANGE TO THE RESTRICTIONS ON COMMUNICATIONS.

IF YOU RECALL, THE RESTRICTIONS ON COMMUNICATIONS ARE IN EFFECT FROM IT THE TIME THE RFP IS ACTUALLY ISSUED TO THE TIME IT IS PLACED ON THE A SESSION AGENDA.

SO WHEN WE ARE HAVING THESE B SESSION PRESENTATIONS, IT WILL ALLOW YOU TO HAVE THE DIALOGUES WITH STAFF, BUT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY TALK TO THE VENDORS OR LOBBYISTS AT THAT TIME UNTIL IT IS PLACED ON A SESSION FOR COUNCIL ACTION.

THE MIDDLE BLOCK, HIGH-PROFILE SOLICITATIONS, THOSE ARE THE ITEMS THAT ARE NOT PRESENTED AT B SESSION.

THOSE THAT SATISFY $1 MILLION OR OVER IN THE CRITERIA I MENTIONED BEFORE.

THOSE WOULD ALSO BE GOING THROUGH THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE TWICE A YEAR.

THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE HAS REQUESTED THAT WE DO NOT SHARE WITH THEM THE RESPONDENT NAMES.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT FOCUSED ON THE PROCESS FOR THE PROCUREMENT.

AND AFTER THEY HAVE SEEN THE ACTUAL OR HAVE BEEN BRIEFED ON THE ACTUAL PROCUREMENT, WE WOULD GO BACK TO THEM AFTER THAT COMMITTEE MEETING IN THE FORM OF A MEMORANDUM SHARING WITH THEM THE RESPONDENT NAMES FOR THE SOLICITATIONS THEY JUST HEARD.

AGAIN, NO CHANGE TO RESTRICTIONS ON COMMUNICATIONS.

COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED AT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE WERE TO ACTUALLY COME BACK AND PROVIDE THE INITIAL AND FINAL SCORE MATRICES.

WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT WITH THE COMMITTEE OVER THE LAST MONTH OR TWO.

IT HAS INCREASED THE TRANSPARENCY IN A LOT OF THE DIALOGUE WITH THE COMMITTEE.

WHAT HAPPENS ON THE INITIAL, AN EVALUATION COMMITTEE WILL SCORE THE PAPER PROPOSALS, THEY ACTUALLY SCORE THOSE PRO PROPOSALS AND THEY HAVE AN INITIAL MATRIX.

THEY ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, AFTER THAT INITIAL SCORING TO GO BACK AND DO EITHER A BEST AND FINAL OFFER, SITE VISITS OR ACTUALLY CONDUCT INTERVIEWS, AND THERE WILL BE A FINAL SCORE MATRICES THAT IS DEVELOPED.

WE'RE PROPOSING TO HIGHLIGHT AND SHOW Y'ALL BOTH ON THE COUNCIL ITEMS AND AT THE COMMITTEE.

YOU CAN SEE THE CHANGES THAT OCCURRED BETWEEN THE TWO DIFFERENT EVALUATIONS.

THE LAST ITEM IS INCREASING THE STANDARD ADVERTISING PERIOD FROM 30 TO 45 DAYS.

HISTORICALLY, ONCE THE RFP IS RELEASED IT IS ABOUT A 30-DAY TIME LINE IN THE DEADLINE FOR THE RESPONDENTS TO SUBMIT PROPOSALS.

THE COMMITTEE REQUESTED US TO EXTEND THAT TO 45 DAYS TO GIVE POTENTIAL RESPONDENTS MORE TIME TO PREPARE PROPOSALS.

IN YOUR -- I WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE ACTUAL HIGH-PROFILE FORECAST.

SO IN YOUR BOOK, YOU WILL HAVE A TAB THAT IS CALLED SELECT, BEHIND THAT SELECT TAB YOU WILL HAVE THE SLIDE THAT IS UP ON THE SCREEN, AND BEHIND THAT TAB, YOU WILL HAVE MORE DETAILS AS FAR AS COINCIDING WITH EACH OF THE DIFFERENT PROCUREMENTS.

SO IN LOOKING GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS I JUST DESCRIBED, AND LOOKING AT ALL THE HIGH-PROFILE PROCUREMENTS, THERE WERE THREE THAT WE WOULD BE RECOMMENDING OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS THAT WE FEEL RISE TO THE LEVEL OF THOSE NEEDING TO BE -- OR RECOMMENDING TO BE PRESENTED TO THE FULL COUNCIL IN THE B SESSION.

THE FIRST OF WHICH IS AVIATION DEPARTMENT CONTRACT, OR SOLICITATION TERMINAL B FOOD AND BEVERAGE CONCESSIONS.

AND LOOKING AT THE DETAIL BEHIND THAT.

THIS WOULD BE A CONTRACT THAT WOULD BE SEVEN YEARS, 8.1 MILLION.

AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WE BELIEVE HADS A HIGH COMMUNITY AND STAKEHOLDER INTEREST AND BASED ON OUR PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT WE RECOMMEND THAT COME TO THE FULL COUNCIL IN A B SESSION.

THE SECOND ITEM IS THE CONSOLIDATED FUNDING FOR 21 AND 22 THROUGH DHS.

ABOUT 42.4 MILLION.

THAT IS A TWO-YEAR CONTRACT.

THE LAST WOULD BE THROUGH TCI WOULD BE THE HEMISFAIR CIVIC PARK.

THESE THREE ITEMS ARE ITEMS EYE WILL GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF THE CONTRACTS OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.

AS YOU REVIEW THOSE, THESE THREE ITEMS ARE WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING.

AS I GO THROUGH THE PROCESS WE WILL SEEK INPUT FROM YOU AS A COUNCIL, IF THERE ARE ITEMS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE MOVED UP

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INTO A SELECT PRESENTATION OR MOVED BACK DOWN TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE.

WE WOULD LIKE THAT INPUT FROM Y'ALL TODAY.

MOVING THROUGH TO THE NEXT TAB LABELED HIGH-PROFILE, YOU WILL HAVE TWO SLIDES.

THE FIRST IS HIGH-PROFILE SOLICITATIONS BEING RECOMMENDED TO GO THROUGH THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE AS AN INDIVIDUAL ITEM.

AGAIN THE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS ARE ITEMS THAT TYPICALLY, BASED ON THE DEFINITION OF THE HIGH-PROFILE WILL BE MORE HIGH-PROFILE IN NATURE AND HAVE TERMS AND CONDITIONS I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL, BUT THERE ARE 12 BEING PROPOSED FOR INDIVIDUAL OUT OF SIX.

THE TERMINAL AB INSTITUTION GIFTS RETAIL CONCESSIONS.

CCDO CZAR ZA MOA PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT.

AND BEHIND EACH IS THE DETAIL.

AND NEXT IS THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE AND YOU LOOK AT THESE THEY SATISFY THE CRITERIA OF BEING OVER $1 MILLION BUT DON'T RISE TO THAT LEVEL OF BEING -- THEY ARE REALLY GOING TO BE -- THEY ARE REALLY ROUTINE ITEMS. WE FEEL THAT THE CONSENT BRIEFING WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, AND JUST HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THAT, WHEN LOOKING AT THE LIST, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU WOULD HAVE THE RADIO FREQUENCY ID SOFTWARE SUPPORT MAINTENANCE FOR THE LIBRARY.

FAIRLY ROUTINE.

VERSUS A FOR EXAMPLE, ITSD MULTIFUNCTIONAL DEVICES, WHICH ARE PRINTERS.

ALTHOUGH THEY RISE AND SATISFY THAT MILLION DOLLAR CRITERIA, THEY'RE REALLY NOT SOMETHING COMPLEX OR GENERATE A LOT OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.

WE RECOMMEND THAT THESE ITEMS ON THE SCREEN GO TO THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE AS A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM.

THIS LAST AREA -- THIS IS PURELY BECAUSE WE'RE MOVING -- IT WILL BE PURELY TRANSITIONAL IN NATURE.

THESE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PROGRESS UNDER THE LAST TAB IN THE BINDER.

SO THESE ARE ITEMS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE AND HAVE ALL -- THEY HAVE HEARD THESE IN THE FORM OF A PRESOLICITATION BRIEFING.

THESE ARE ALL PENDING POSTSOLICITATIONS, MEANING THE RFPS ARE OUT ON THE STREET OR CURRENTLY BEING EVALUATED.

THEY WOULD GO BACK THROUGH THE COMMITTEE AS AN INDIVIDUAL ITEM.

THERE ARE THREE ON HERE THAT WE WOULD PROPOSE NIN ADDITION TO THE THREE I MENTIONED EARLIER.

COMING BACK THROUGH THE B SESSION TO THE FULL COUNCIL.

THE FIRST ONE OF COURSE IS THE DOCKLESS VEHICLES.

AS A RESULT OF THE POLICY AND PUBLIC SAFETY IMPLICATIONS.

YOU HEARD THAT AS WELL IN THE PRE.

THE SECOND WOULD BE THE CITY TOWER FOOD AND BEVERAGE CONCEPTS THROUGH CCDO.

AND THE LAST IS ACTUALLY WOULD BE ON THE AGENDA TODAY FOR THE AUTOMATED TICKETING SYSTEM, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY PATRICIA FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION THIS AFTERNOON.

THE LAST SLIDE ARE A LIST OF CONSENT ITEMS THAT WE PROPOSE THAT ARE STILL IN PROGRESS.

AND THAT ARE SCHEDULED TO GO BACK TO THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE.

IN SUMMARY MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THESE ARE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

REALLY YOU HAVE THREE CATEGORIES OF HIGH-PROFILE SOLICITATIONS.

THOSE SELECTED BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT WE IDENTIFIED TO GO BACK TO B SESSION.

THOSE THAT ARE HIGH-PROFILE IN NATURE AND WOULD BE PROPOSED AND RECOMMENDED TO GO AND STAY THROUGH WITH THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE AND THOSE THAT ARE IN PROGRESS.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

WE HAVE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS HERE WITH US IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT PROCUREMENTS IN THE LIST I JUST PRESENTED.

THANK Y'ALL.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, TROY.

WE'LL GO INTO COUNCIL QUESTION AND COMMENT AT THIS POINT.

COUNCILMEMBER TREVINO.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AND THANKS, TROY.

WE TALKED ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY, IN AUDIT.

AND I WANT TO GO TO SLIDE 5.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT SLIDE 5, ONE OF THE KEY POINTS I MADE YESTERDAY IN THE AUDIT COMMITTEE IS THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE IN THAT WE TALKED ABOUT NO CHANGE TO RESTRICTIONS ON COMMUNICATIONS.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND ANDY RECOMMENDED WE GO TO THE ERB FOR THE AUDIT.

>> AS DISCUSSED IN THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, THE TIME FRAME IS ESTABLISHED WITH NO COMMUNICATION IS ESTABLISHED BY THE ETHIC CODES.

IT CAN BE CHANGED BUT USUALLY THE PROCESS IS TO HAVE THE

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ETHIC REVIEW BOARD LOOK AT THE ISSUE, PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL AND COUNCIL CAN DECIDE WHETHER TO TAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION OR NOT.

WE WILL WORK WITH KEVIN AND YOUR OFFICE PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA AND MAKE SURE THE ERB RECOGNIZES WHERE THE ISSUE IS COMING FROM AND WHAT THE OBJECTIVE THAT COUNCIL MAY BE TRYING TO REACH IN TERMS OF PROVIDING MORE FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF THAT TIMING.

>> WE TALKED ABOUT, ANDY, TO BE CLEAR, WE TALKED ABOUT WAS MAKING SURE THAT THERE IS SUFFICIENT TIME TO BE TALKING ABOUT ISSUES, CORRECT?

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

I MEAN, ONE OF THE THING, IN FACT, KEVIN AND I SPOKE JUST BEFORE THE MEETING.

WE WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR AS I UNDERSTAND YOUR INTENT IS NOT TO ELIMINATE IT, BUT SIMPLY TO PROVIDE MORE TIME.

WE WILL MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR WHEN WE GIVE THAT BACKGROUND TO THE ERB.

>> EXAMPLES OF WHERE WE COMPRESSED THE TIME, SO DEPENDING ON WHEN THAT IS PUT ON THE AGENDA, WE THEN HAVE THIS COMPRESSED PERIOD OF TIME, CORRECT?

>> CORRECT.

IT IS POSTED IT GIVES A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME TO GIVE THE DIALOGUE YOU ARE LOOKING FOR COUNCIL.

>> I WILL PARK IT RIGHT THERE.

IT IS ACTUALLY KIND OF RELATED TO THE NEXT ITEM.

TODAY, WE'RE BEING BRIEFED ON A COUPLE OF THINGS.

TOMORROW WE'RE TAKING ACTION ON THE ITEM WE'RE BEING BRIEFED ON NEXT.

I WILL GO INTO MORE DETAIL ON THAT.

I THINK YOU CAN SEE HOW THE TWO ARE RELATED.

THE FACT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

WE TALKED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE TIME TO TAKE BRIEFINGS, TO ASK QUESTIONS.

TO GET TO KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT THE INTENT OF THESE SOLICITATIONS ARE ABOUT, DID THE RFP -- AS AND AUDIT COMMITTEE WE LOOK AT PART OF THE PROCESS, NOT THE ENTIRE INTENT OR STORIES BEHIND IT.

WE CERTAINLY DON'T TALK TO THE FOLKS THAT ARE AWARDED.

WE ONLY SEE, YOU KNOW, RESPONDENT ONE, RESPONDENT TWO.

AND I THINK THIS IS THE KEY POINT I WILL MAKE IN THIS PARTICULAR -- IN BOTH OF THESE PRESENTATIONS, BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TIME.

WE NEED TIME TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY VOTING ON.

AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN COURAGE AND COUNCILMAN ROCHA GARCIA WERE THERE, AND I KNOW YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS, COUNCILMAN, ABOUT -- EXTENSIVELY ABOUT MAKING SURE WE DON'T COMPRESS THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE'RE VOTING ON ITEMS. IN FACT, WE BRIEF HERE AT B SESSION, THEN 18 HOURS LATER, WE'RE TAKING A VOTE.

I THINK THAT'S JUST NOT -- NOT GOOD FOR THE PROCESS.

CERTAINLY I JUST WANT TO KIND OF SPEAK TO THAT.

LIKE I SAID, I'LL HAVE MORE COMMENTS REGARDING THE NEXT ITEM AS IT RELATES TO THIS AS WELL.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER, TREVINO.

COUNCILMEMBER GONZALES.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

MY COMMENTS WERE SIMILAR -- QUESTIONS WERE SIMILAR TO TREVINO.

WHAT WAS THE DECISION PROCESS IN THE COMMITTEE FOR NO CHANGE TO RESTRICT COMMUNICATIONS.

>> IT IS ACTUALLY ESTABLISHED IN CITY CODE.

SINCE IT IS ACTUALLY CODE, IT IS NOT SOMETHING WE CAN CHANGE.

IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT ANDY DESCRIBED.

>> LIKE THROUGH CCR OR PART OF THE CHARTER? WHAT?

>> COUNCIL WOMAN, IT IS IN THE ET ETHICS CODE.

>> IF WE WANTED TO CHANGE THAT, HOW -- WHAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS FOR CHANGING THAT?

>> THE PROCESS FOR CHANGING THE ETHICS CODE IS SOMETIMES THERE IS A GENERIC REVIEW BY THE ERB.

IN OTHER WORDS EVERY FEW YEARS SOMETIMES THEY TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

THERE ARE ISSUES, SOMETIMES THAT COME UP IN WHICH THEY TAKE THE SINGLE ISSUES AND LOOK AT IT.

BUT THE PROCESS IS THE ISSUE IS PUT BEFORE THE ERB, THEY STUDY IT, THEY ANALYZE IT, THEY THEN FORMULATE A RECOMMENDATION THAT GOES TO COUNCIL, AND THEN THE COUNCIL VOTES AS TO WHETHER TO CHANGE IT OR NOT.

>> THANK YOU.

I KNOW MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUE HERE WAS ON THAT ERB FOR MANY YEARS AND DID INCREDIBLE WORK THERE.

SO MANY WHEN -- WHEN YOU SIGN UP TO SPEAK, YOU CAN RESPOND TO THAT.

BUT I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION IS, I KNOW THAT NOT SO LONG AGO, WE WENT THROUGH THIS EXERCISE BECAUSE WE LIMITED THE COMMUNICATION TO THE NONPROFITS.

OR FROM THE NONPROFITS ABOUT THEIR SOLICITATIONS.

SO -- I FEEL LIKE THAT DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE INDEPENDENT ETHICS REVIEW.

I FEEL LIKE WE DID THAT -- I ACTUALLY DON'T REMEMBER THE PROCESS.

BUT IT USED TO BE THAT THE NONPROFITS COULD APPROACH US AT ANY TIME, THEN WE CHANGED IT TO LIKE A YEAR BEFORE OR SOME AMOUNT OF TIME.

AND THEN WE UNDID IT.

SO WHAT ABOUT THAT?

>> IF I MAY, MAYOR, RESPOND TO THE COUNCIL WOMAN.

I THINK YOU ARE REMEMBERING COUNCIL WOMAN THE DELEGATE

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AGENCY EXCEPTION, THAT DID GO THROUGH THE PROCESS I DESCRIBED.

>> IT DID GO THROUGH THE ETHICS REVIEW?

>> YES, COUNCILMAN, IT DID.

>> I DON'T REMEMBER THAT.

I REMEMBER IT SEEMED LIKE THE DECISION WAS MADE FAIRLY QUICKLY TO ALLOW THE NONPROFITS TO COMMUNICATE WITH US.

MAYBE WE WENT FROM SIX MONTHS TO THREE MONTHS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT --

>> SORRY.

THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW IT COULD BE AN ISSUE THAT COULD BE FAIRLY QUICKLY REVIEWED BY THE ETHICS REVIEW BOARD, PARTICULARLY IF THEY'RE LOOKING AT ONE ISSUE.

AS I SAID, PERIODICALLY THEY TAKE A HOLISTIC LOOK AT IT AND OFFER RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOLISTIC CHANGES.

BUT THEY DO LOOK ISSUE BY ISSUE IF THE COUNCIL WANTS THEM TO CONSIDER THAT.

>> OK.

THANK YOU.

I DO THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO HAVE DIALOGUE WITH THESE.

AND I KNOW THAT IN THE COUPLE OF SCENARIOS, YOU KNOW, THE HIGH-PROFILE ONES THAT RELATED TO THE BARGE CONTRACT AND THEN THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW.

THAT'S THE ONE THAT OF COURSE -- OH, THE AIRPORT CONCESSION WE WENT THROUGH NOT TOO LONG AGO, THAT THERE WAS A VERY BRIEF PERIOD FROM THE TIME THAT THE RESTRICTION WAS LIFTED UNTIL THE TIME THAT WE COULD HAVE COMMUNICATION.

AND BECAUSE -- I THINK THE COMMUNICATION WAS LIFTED ON A FRIDAY.

WE WERE GOING TO VOTE THAT WEDNESDAY.

THERE WAS VERY FEW WORKING DAYS TO DISCUSS.

I'M SORRY, ERIC, DID YOU WANT TO RESPOND?

>> JUST FOR EVERYBODY WATCHING, TO RECLARIFY.

WITH THE ETHICS REVIEW CODE SAYS -- THE ETHICS CODE SAYS, ONCE AN ITEM IS POSTED FOR A SESSION.

THAT CODE OF SILENCE IS UP.

WE POST -- WE TYPICALLY POST WEDNESDAY NIGHT.

WHAT COUNCILMEMBER TREVINO IS SAYING, ONCE WE POST ON THE A SESSION, THE CODE, YOU VOTE THE FOLLOWING THURSDAY.

WHAT COUNCILMAN TREVINO IS ASKING THE ERB TO LOOK AT IS WHETHER OR NOT THE ONE-WEEK TIME FRAME WHEN WE POST WEDNESDAY NIGHT TO WHEN YOU VOTE ON THURSDAY, SHOULD THAT TIME BE LONGER OR LOOKING AT RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ADDITIONAL TIME.

AND SO THAT WILL BE THE ISSUE THAT WILL BE SUBJECT BACK TO THE ETHICS REVIEW BOARD FOR THEIR INPUT.

WHAT TRIGGERS IT IS THE A SESSION AGENDA.

>> AND NOT AFTER REVIEWED FROM THE AUDIT COMMITTEE?

>> BEFORE IT GOES TO THE AGENDA IT HAS GONE THROUGH THE AUDIT COMMITTEE OR UNDER THE NEW PROPOSAL WILL HAVE GONE THROUGH A B SESSION.

ONCE IT GOES THROUGH THE REVIEWS, THE ETHICS REVIEW CODE POINTS BACK TO ONCE IT IS POSTED ON THE A SESSION AGENDA.

THAT'S THE TRIGGER.

>> OK.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND THANK YOU FOR ADDING THIS COMPONENT TO OUR AGENDA.

SO I MEAN, I THINK -- I DO THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT, BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS.

BUT A LOT OF TIMES, WE'RE NOT GIVEN ALL THE INFORMATION, AND THEN SCRAMBLING AT THE LAST MINUTE TO ASK A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS.

I KNOW I FOR ONE AM CAUTIOUS OF THE ETHICS RULES.

I DON'T WANT TO BREAK ANY OF THEM.

AS COUNCILMEMBERS, WE WANT TO BE ETHICAL ALL THE TIME AND WANT THE APPEARANCE OF BEING ETHICAL.

WE DON'T WANT TO BREAK THE RULES AND NOBODY SLOLICITING EITHER.

HOPEFULLY BY LIFTING THE COMMUNICATIONS SOONER THAT THEN PREVENTS US FROM VIOLATING ANY ETHICS LAWS.

MAYBE THAT CAN BE MY NEXT QUESTION.

IF WE DID LIFT IT SOONER, WOULD IT THEN FREE US FROM SOME OF THESE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE?

>> EXACTLY COUNCILMAN.

WHAT WE WILL PUT IN FRONT OF THE ERB IS THE ISSUE OF WHETHER THAT TIME PERIOD, AS ERIC SAID THE TIME YOU HEAR IT AND VOTE, WHETHER THAT SHOULD BE EXTENDED.

IF IT IS TRIGGERING THE EXTENSION.

IF THE ERB COMES UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO EXTEND IT AND THE COUNCIL VOTES TO APPROVE THAT, THEN YOU HAVE A NEW ETHICS RULE THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR WHAT COUNCILMAN TREVINO IS SUGGESTING, WHICH IS THE ADDITIONAL TIME.

>> ADDITIONAL TIME? OK.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL OF THIS.

I LOOK FORWARD TO THESE THAT ARE COMING UP, WHICH WE KNOW ARE REALLY CRITICAL, THE AIRPORT CONSOLIDATED FUNDING, AND HEMISFAIR, THEY'RE LARGE IN TERMS OF DOLLAR AMOUNTS AND ALSO REALLY CRITICAL FOR OUR K CULTURE AND THAT IS ONE OF THE

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GUIDING PRINCIPLES FOR THIS AS WELL.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> [INDISCERNIBLE] NOT SPECIFIC TO THE POINT ON TIMELINESS, ONE CHANGE THAT WE MADE THAT GOES A LONG WAY IN TRANSPARENCY, AS I MENTIONED WHEN WE GO TO THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE THEY'RE STILL GOING TO STICK ON PROCESS.

BUT AFTER THAT COMMITTEE MEETING IS OVER, WE WOULD RELEASE THE RESPONDENT NAMES AND DO THAT THE FULL COUNCIL AND THE B SESSION WE WILL DISCLOSE THE RESPONDENT NAMES IN THE B SESSION AS WELL.

I THINK ALTHOUGH YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SPEAK WITH SOME OF THE CURRENT RESPONDINTS IN THE CURRENT ETHICS CODE IT WOULD AL ALLOW VISIBILITY INTO THE PR PROCESS AND HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH STUFF ON THE RESPONDENTS.

>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER GONZALES, COUNCILMEMBER COURAGE.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

OUR COMMITTEE UNDERSTANDS THE PROCESS THAT YOU ARE PUTTING IN PLACE.

WE AGREED WITH IT.

WE THINK IT IS A GOOD PROSCESS.

WE DECIDED WE DON'T WANT TO KNOW THE NAMES OF THOSE INVOLVES UNTIL AFTER MAKING A DECISION TO MOVE IT FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL.

HOWEVER, WE DID AGREE THAT ONCE THAT DECISION IS MADE, THERE DIDN'T SEEM TO BE A NECESSITY TO KEEP THAT INFORMATION SECRET, SO TO SPEAK.

AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROVIDING ENOUGH TIME FOR THE COUNCIL TO DELIBERATE ON THIS O AND MAYBE RECEIVE INPUT FROM STUFF, BUT MAYBE FROM THE DIFFERENT VENDORS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS.

RIGHT NOW, WE CAN ONLY RECEIVE THAT INPUT FROM THE VEND OVER AFTER IT IS POSTED -- VENDOR AFTER IT IS POSTED TO OUR A SESSION.

IF WE START RELEASING THE NAMES OF THE VENDORS INVOLVED AFTER THE DECISION HAS BEEN MADE BY OUR COMMITTEE TO RECOMMEND FORWARD OR IF WE HOLD A B SESSION AND UPON THE B SESSION WE WILL RECOMMEND THOSE NAMES, THEN I RECOMMEND TO THE ERB THAT THEY CONSIDER CHANGING THE BLACKOUT PERIOD AND END IT AS SOON AS THE NAMES ARE RELEASED EITHER AFTER THE AUDIT COMMITTEE MAKES ITS DECISION OR AFTER THE COUNCIL HEARS THE B SESSION.

THAT WOULD GIVE US A LOT MORE TIME BEFORE AN A SESSION TO GO AHEAD AND CONSIDER THAT KIND OF INPUT THAT WOULD BE USEFUL FOR US.

OBVIOUSLY, THIS WOULD BE AN EXCEPTION TO THAT.

WE HAD A REPORT YESTERDAY THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, TODAY WE'RE HAVING A B SESSION.

TOMORROW WE WILL VOTE ON SOMETHING.

THAT IS VERY UNUSUAL.

I THINK IT IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO AVOID FROM HAPPENING ANY OTHER TIME IN THE FUTURE.

I UNDERSTAND WE'RE UPAGAINST A TIME FRAME WHERE THIS CONTRACT EXPIRES AT THE END OF THIS MONTH.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT DONE.

BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT WE DON'T RUN INTO A SIMILAR TYPE OF SITUATION AND WE GIVE OURSELVES THAT ADDITIONAL TIME WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND REVIEW ALL OF THE COMPONENTS THAT GO INTO THIS PROCESS BEFORE WE HAVE TO GO AHEAD AND START OTHERWISE, I THINK THE PROCESS YOU'RE RECOMMENDING AND THE COMMITTEE HAS AGREED TO IS A GOOD ONE.

AND I WANT TO JUST REMIND EVERYBODY THAT ALTHOUGH WE HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT COULD BE ON CONSENT, WE TELL EVERYBODY ON THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, REVIEW THIS MATERIAL AS SOON AS IT IS SENT TO YOU.

AND IF YOU FEEL SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OFF CONSENT AND NEEDS TO HAVE A FORMAL ADDRESS BY THE COMMITTEE, THEN ANY COUNCILMEMBER HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT JUST AS WE DO IN NORMAL COUNCIL MEETINGS WE CAN TAKE THINGS OFF CONSENT AND ADDRESS THEM INDIVIDUALLY.

I THINK BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT CONSENT ITEMS BEING FAIRLY ROUTINE AND OF A NATURE THAT THEY'RE REPRESENTATIVE OR FILLING IN FOR SOMETHING WE HAVE DONE OVER AND OVER AGAIN, IT IS PRETTY EASY TO JUST ABIDE BY THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE STAFF PUTS TOGETHER.

HOWEVER, AND WE CAN PULL ANY OF THOSE OFF CONSENT AND ADDRESS THEM INDIVIDUALLY.

SO WE STILL HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY TO GET INTO THE WEEDS IF WE NEED TO, ON ANY ISSUE THAT COMES BEFORE OUR COMMITTEE.

ANYWAY, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE POINTS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER COU COURAGE.

COUNCILMEMBER ROCHA GARCIA.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I BELIEVE YESTERDAY AT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE WE DID MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE ERB TO CONSIDER ON THE NEXT AGENDA THIS SO I WANTED MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES THAT WEREN'T THERE YESTERDAY KNOW THAT WE DID MAKE THIS RECOMMENDATION.

I ALSO BELIEVE THAT WE GET A FORECAST.

I KNOW I GOT A FORECAST.

I ASKED ALL MY QUESTIONS ON ALL THE 50-PLUS QUESTIONS AT THAT TIME.

AND I HAVE GOTTEN RESPONSES.

I KNOW A LOT OF MY ISSUES ARE

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RESOLVED.

THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT IT.

BUT WE DO GET A FORECAST.

READ IT, ASK QUESTIONS.

IT WILL BENEFIT STAFF A LOT, SO THEY CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AHEAD OF TIME.

I WANT TO REFER TO COUNCIL WOMAN GONZALES'S QUESTION, M MAY 18, B SESSION, I BRIEFED THE COUNCIL ABOUT THE SPECIFICALLY MUNICIPAL CAMPAIGN FINANCE CODE RELATED TO NONPROFITS.

THERE WE WERE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION IN SECTION 2.09 THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS SHALL NOT MAKE A POLITICAL CONTRIBUTION AND ANY OWNER OR OFFICER OR ENTITY SEEKING A HIGH-PROFILE CONTRACT.

THAT WAS THE ADDITION.

I THINK WE'RE CONFUSING THE COMMUNICATION.

BECAUSE THEN A MONTH LATER OR SO ON JUNE 12, 2018, COUNCILMAN COURAGE, ACTUALLY ON THE DAIS BROUGHT UP A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE CHANGE.

I THINK THAT IS WHAT COUNCIL WOMAN GONZALES IS REFERRING TO.

BECAUSE AT THAT POINT, I STEPPED UP, AGAIN, TO THE MIC, I COMPLETELY BROKE OUR ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER AND ASKED THE MAYOR FOR PERMISSION TO SPEAK AGAIN.

I ASKED FOR THE RECORD TO FULLY REFLECT THAT THE ETHICS REVIEW BOARD HAD NOT AT ALL CONSIDERED THIS NEW CHANGE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP ON THE DAIS.

I JUST WANT TO REMIND MY FELLOW COUNCIL COLLEAGUES THAT THE ERB CAN MAKE WHATEVER RECOMMENDATIONS THEY WANT BUT YOU ALL HAVE THE ABILITY TO ACT ON OUR OWN.

WE CAN GET A RECOMMENDATION AND TAKE IT OR NOT.

I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY, COUNCILMAN TREVINO AND SHAW ISSUED A PRESS RELEASE IN SUPPORT OF OUR PROPOSED CHANGES AS WERE NOT AS AMENDED ON THE DAIS.

I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.

THAT WAS A HUGE POINT OF CONTENTION FOR THE ENTIRE ET ETHICS REVIEW BOARD BECAUSE WE HAD SPENT OVER TWO YEARS OF WORK ON A LOT OF THE THINGS AND FOR SOMETHING TO BE CHANGED ON THE DAIS ON THE SPOT DIDN'T SIT WELL.

I WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL COLLEAGUES IF IT WE SEND IT TO THE ERB AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS WE HAVE THE CHOICE TO MAKE IT, NOT ACCEPT IT OR MAKE AN AMENDMENT ON THE SPOT AS WAS DONE MAY 18, 2018, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO SECONDED THE MOTION, MY MEMORY IS NOT THAT GOOD.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, THAT'S IT.

>> THANK YOU CHAIRWOMAN FOR MAKING THE CASE FOR A FULLY INDEPENDENT AND AUTONOMOUS ETHICS REVIEW BOARD ONCE AGAIN.

COUNCILMEMBER PERRY.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

TROY, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

WHEN I WAS STILL ON THE AUDIT COMMITTEE WE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF THIS STUFF.

IT WAS BASED ON A COUPLE OF CONTRACTS THAT WE HAD ISSUES WITH, AND DELIBERATIONS THAT KIND OF THING.

I THINK THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

YEAH, IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE FLASHED OUT MORE -- FLESHED OUT MORE ON WHEN THE COMMUNICATIONS ASPECT CAN BE CHANGED OR ENHANCED, IF YOU WILL.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER ALSO.

BECAUSE THERE'S -- YOU KNOW, LIFTING THAT TOO FAR IN ADVANCE CAN CREATE ISSUES IN THEIR OWN.

SO THAT NEEDS TO BE REALLY CONSIDERED THOUGHTFULLY AND CAREFULLY BEFORE WE MAKE THOSE KIND OF CHANGES TO THE RULES.

OVERALL, I'M SUPPORTIVE.

REALLY SUPPORT THAT EXTRA TIME ON THE SOLICITATION, AS YOU KNOW, I HAMMERED EVERY MEETING, LET'S GIVE THEM A LITTLE MORE TIME TO RESPOND TO THESE PARTICULAR COMPLICATED CONTRACTS.

YOU KNOW, AND GIVE THE CONT CONTRACTORS, RESPONDERS MORE TIME TO DELVE INTO IT, GET BETTER COSTINGS FROM SUBCONTRACTORS.

YOU KNOW, THERE IS A BIG -- YOU THINK OUR PROCESS IS LONG.

THE CONTRACTOR'S PROCESS IS JUST AS LONG.

AND MORE COMPLICATED IN PUT PUTTING PROPOSALS TOGETHER FOR THE CITY.

I WANT TO CONTINUE TO GIVE THEM AS MUCH TIME POSSIBLE.

BECAUSE IT ONLY MAKES A BETTER PROPOSAL, THE MORE TIME YOU HAVE TO PUT THESE THINGS TOGETHER AND LINE UP YOUR SUBCONTRACTORS AND YOUR SKIPPING].

I REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL PUTTING THAT CHANGE IN THERE, GIVING AT LEAST TWO MORE WEEKS ON THE SOLICITATIONS.

GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER PERRY.

COUNCILMEMBER VIAGRAN.

>> THANK YOU.

QUESTION ON SLIDE NUMBER 2.

YES.

NUMBER 2.

SO THESE ARE THE -- THIS IS THE DEFINITION, IT SAYS HIGHLY COMPLEX OR TECHNICAL IN NATURE OR CONTRACT TERMS. IN THERE DO WE ALSO INCLUDE THE LENGTH OF THE CONTRACT? IT SAYS COMPLEX CONTRACT TERMS.

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BUT CAN WE ALSO INCLUDE WHAT I WOULD -- I WOULD ENCOURAGE MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES TO CONSIDER IS THE LENGTH OF A CONTRACT AS WELL.

IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR MULTIYEARS OR SIX YEARS PLUS THREE ONE-YEAR RENEWALS OR 10 YEARS AND 10, ONE-YEAR RENEWALS THAT WE HAVE MORE INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION AND NOT CONSENT.

>> ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

THAT IS SPECIFICALLY WHERE WE LOOK AT THAT AND RECOMMEND THAT AS A HIGH-PROFILE CONTRACT.

>> OK.

YOU WOULD RECOMMEND THAT AS A HIGH-PROFILE CONTRACT TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE AND THAT WOULD BE INDIVIDUAL JUST FOR AUDIT COMMITTEE.

>> IT COULD BE.

I MEAN, AS WE GO THROUGH THE FORECAST, I MEAN, YOU WOULD SEE THE FULL FORECAST FROM THIS POINT FORWARD.

BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE OF THE CONTRACT AND BASED ON TERMS WE LOOK AT IT.

IT MAY BE ON THE AUDIT COMMITTEE -- I CAN'T SPEAK TO BASICALLY WHETHER IT WOULD BE INDIVIDUAL OR CONSENT, BUT AS A BASE, IT WOULD BE GOING THROUGH THE AUDIT COMMITTEE.

>> UH-HUH.

>> AT A MINIMUM.

>> OK.

I THINK -- I KNOW PART OF THAT SLIDE HAS AN ASTERISK SAYING THE LOW PROCUREMENT ARE EXCLUDED FROM THE DEFINITION.

WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS HERE ON THE DAIS ABOUT MAKING CHANGES ON THE DAIS TO EXPAND OR ADD PEOPLE ON TO CONTRACTS OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

THAT IS SOMETHING I WANTED TO COMMENT ON.

BUT TO YOUR POINT, YES, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE TIME TO TALK TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND NOT HAVE SUCH A QUICK TURN AROUND TIME.

I DO WANT TO AVOID DEBACLES WE HAVE HAD IN THE PAST AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE MORE TRANSPARENT PROCESS AND THAT WE HAVE THOROUGH TIME OF VETTING THESE LARGE PACKAGES, BUT EVEN IF SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED, I KNOW EVEN ON A DAIS WHEN PEOPLE COME AND SPEAK ON A CONSENT ITEM HERE IN A SESSION AND BRING UP AN ISSUE OR CONCERN, WE MOVE FORWARD WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, BUT THEN IT BRINGS UP OTHER CONCERNS THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IN THE FUTURE.

WITH DIFFERENT PROCUREMENT PROCESSES.

THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I KNOW I ASKED DCI TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT OUR FEEDBACK OUR COUNCIL OFFICES ARE GETTING FOR CERTAIN CONTRACTORS THAT ARE DOING BIDDING.

BECAUSE IT MAY NOT BE -- IT MAY BE FINE FOR SOME OF THE INSPECTORS, BUT IT IS NOT FINE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE GETTING -- THAT ARE FEELING IMPACTED TO SEE HOW THAT COULD BE EMBEDDED INTO TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

THEN WHAT YOU HAVE HERE FOR SOLICITATIONS MOVING FORWARD.

PLEASE EXPLAIN ON SLIDE 6.

YOU ARE SAYING THESE ARE GOING TO COME TO A B SESSION FOR BRIEFING?

>> [INDISCERNIBLE] ALL THE HIGH-PROFILE SOLICITATIONS FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, THESE THREE ARE THE ONES THAT WE RECOMMEND FOR Y'ALL TO REVIEW IN B SESSION.

>> OK.

THE OTHERS ARE IN AUDIT COMMITTEE THAT WILL BE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS?

>> THE REMAINING -- THE REMAINING HIGH-PROFILE ITEMS THAT ARE MEETING THE CRITERIA THAT WE JUST LOOKED AT WOULD ALL RUN THROUGH THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE.

>> THE OTHER SLIDE, NUMBER 8, YOU HAVE THE CONSENT HIGH-PROFILES.

TALK TO ME ABOUT THIS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CONSENT ITEM UNDER DHS.

>> THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS -- I BELIEVE IT IS $500,000 SOLICITATION.

THIS WOULD BE COMING BACK FOR Y'ALL FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT, I BELIEVE OCTOBER 30TH FOR Y'ALL'S CONSIDERATION IN A B SESSION TO FOCUS MORE ON THE POLICY CONSIDERATIONS BUT NOT THE PROCUREMENT.

IT IS COMING TO A B SESSION MORE FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT.

>> WHY COULDN'T IT COME TO US FOR PROCUREMENT EVEN IF WE TALK ABOUT IT.

>> I THINK FROM A PROCUREMENT STANDPOINT IT IS LOW DOLLAR VALUE.

IT IS $500,000.

I BELIEVE IT IS FOR A STUDY OR CNSULTANT.

>> SO WHEN WE COME TO YOU ON OCTOBER 30TH, WE WILL ASK YOU TO APPROVE PRIORITIES FOR FUNDING.

THEN THOSE FUNDING CONTRACTS WILL COME BACK TO YOU THROUGH A SEG -- SESSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

WE FELT BECAUSE IT WAS IN THE FUNDING PRIORITIES UNDER THE 1-DOLLAR THRESHOLD, IT DIDN'T QUALIFY.

>> ONE THING TO TALK ABOUT WITH THAT ONE WHEN WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE OCTOBER 30TH MEETING, I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WHERE WE TALK ABOUT THE SELECTION COMMITTEE.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO THE SELECTION COMMITTEE IS.

ARE WE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THOSE THAT MAYBE HAVE BEEN VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OR SOMETHING ELSE TO THAT EFFECT ARE PART OF THE SELECTION OR AT LEAST THE REVIEW OF WHO WE'RE LOOKING AT.

SO THAT'S WHY I WANT TO NOT JUST HAVE IT ON A CONSENT AGENDA, ERIC.

IF YOU UNDERSTAND?

>> YEAH, I DO.

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MAYBE WHAT WE CAN DO -- DR. BRIDGER IS EXACTLY RIGHT, THAT IS WHAT WE WERE THINKING.

MAYBE WHAT WE DO OCTOBER 30 OR 31ST B SESSION WE DO A LITTLE EXTRA WORK IN TERMS OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS ALSO LAYOUT THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE SOLICITATION AND DETAIL IN THE PRESENTATION.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO THESE OTHERS ARE IN PROGRESS FOR INDIVIDUAL AND THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUE WHO IS ALSO MENTIONING THAT WE HAVE -- SOME OF MY OTHER COLLEAGUES ALSO MENTIONED IF WE WANT TO PULL SOMETHING OFF A CONSENT ITEM OR REQUEST TO HAVE IT AT A B SESSION WE CAN HAVE JUST MORE DIALOGUE ABOUT IT.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE.

THEN I THINK ANYTHING WITH HOUSING, EVEN IF IT IS A LOW DOLLAR AMOUNT, BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A HIGH-PROFILE PRIORITY FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT UNDER INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, IN MY OPINION.

SO I'D LIKE TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT RIGHT NOW.

AND THE OTHER CONSENT ITEMS THAT ARE IN PROGRESS, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO BE VERY, VERY THOUGHTFUL AND DILIGENT, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE OTHER SESSIONS THINGS HAPPEN AND WE END UP WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW WITH ALL OF THE OTHER ITEMS. SO THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER, VIAGRAN, COUNCILMEMBER PELAEZ.

>> THANKS FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

I WILL ECHO THE CONCERN ABOUT THE SHORT BLACKOUT PERIODS BEING UNCOMFORTABLY SHORT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PERFECT BLACKOUT PERIOD LOOK LIKE.

ALL I KNOW IS THE ONE WE'VE GOT NOW -- I'M SURE EVERY BLACKOUT PERIOD IS IMPERFECT.

ALL I KNOW IS THE IMPERFECTION IN THIS ONE IS THAT IT FEELS REALLY TIGHT.

THE SECOND THING I'LL TELL YOU IS THAT COUNCIL ITEM SANDOVAL ISN'T HERE TODAY, SHE'S NOT FEELING VERY WELL.

SHE'S DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB AT TEXTING ME.

SO I HAD A WHOLE BUNCH OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

BUT OUT OF FEAR FOR MY SAFETY I'M GOING TO ASK YOU SOME OF HERS.

SHE WRITES I REQUESTED CHANGES BETWEEN ORIGINALLY SUPPORT SUBMITTED PROPOSALS AND STAFF RECO RECOMMENDATIONS BE SUMMARIZED AND EXPLAINED WHEN THE RECOMMENDATION IS MADE.

ALSO SHE WOULD LIKE TO SEE ALL HIGH-PROFILE PRO PRESOLICITATION BRIEFINGS GO TO FULL COUNCIL, NOT JUST AUDIT.

I THINK SHE REALIZED I'M READING OFF HER QUESTIONS AND SHE STOPPED.

SO PLEASE DO THAT AND DO AS COUNCIL WOMAN SANDOVAL WOULD LIKE YOU TO DO.

OK? AND SECOND THING -- ERIC, THIS IS REALLY FOR YOU.

I KNOW THAT THIS IS PROBABLY ONE MUCH THE HARDEST THINGS YOU GUYS WORK ON IS GETTING THIS RIGHT BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY EYEBALLS ON THIS.

PEOPLE LOOK AT IT FROM A PROCESS.

PEOPLE LOOK AT IT FROM -- I MEAN, EVERYBODY HAS AN OPINION ABOUT THESE CONTRACTS BECAUSE THEY ARE, BY NATURE HIGH-PROFILE.

BUT THEY'RE HIGH-PROFILE NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF EACH INDIVIDUAL PROJECT AND HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY IMPACT.

I DON'T HAVE A CRITIQUE OTHER THAN ENCOURAGEMENT, AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A FEELING THAT THIS WILL NEVER END.

EVERY COUNCIL BEFORE US HAS PROBABLY HAD STRONG OPINIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE IMPERFECTIONS OF THIS PROCESS.

AND EVERY COUNCIL AFTER US WILL HAVE OPINIONS ABOUT THE IMPERFECTIONS IN THIS PROCESS.

AND THAT'S BECAUSE I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANY CITY OR AGENCY OR PRIVATE AGENCY GET IT PERFECT.

REALLY STRIVING FOR CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT.

I'M IMPRESSED WITH HOW YOU DO THIS AND I APPRECIATE YOU CONTINUING TO BE EVEN MORE CAREFUL.

I UNDERSTAND THERE HAS TO BE SOME DEGREE OF AGILITY AND FLEXIBILITY BUILT INTO THE PROCESS.

OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, EVERY ONE OF OUR MEETINGS WOULD BE ETERNAL AND WE WOULD HAVE MORE MEETINGS THAN THERE ARE DAYS IN THE WEEK.

I KNOW THE HEAVY LIFTING IS ASKED OF YOU.

I APPRECIATE YOU DOING IT.

SOMETIMES WE DON'T SAY IT ENOUGH FROM THE DAIS.

THAT IS THE SINCERE THANKS FOR DOING THE HARD STUFF.

THAT'S IT, MAYOR, THANKS.

>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER PELAEZ, COUNCILMEMBER ROCHA GARCIA.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I FORGOT TO DO MY REQUEST.

THERE ARE TWO ITEMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY HIGH-PROFILE SOLICITATIONS, I WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD CONSIDER MOVING THEM TO SELECT HIGH-PROFILE TO GET A BRIEFING THAT IS THE CONTINENTAL HOTEL AND ORGANICS MATERIAL PROCESSING.

I REQUESTED THAT YESTERDAY.

I DIDN'T FORMALLY REQUEST IT,

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I GAVE IT TO TROY THEY RECOMMENDED I BRING IT UP, AND THOSE ARE TWO ITEMS I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER IN FRONT OF THE FULL PUBLIC.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER ROCHA GARCIA AND COUNCILMEMBER VIAGRAN.

>> I WANTED TO ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUE.

>> GREAT.

THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT PRESENTATION, TROY.

ITEM 2.

>> MAYOR, THANK YOU.

ITEM 2, BEFORE WE TRANSITION, LET ME JUST SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE INTEND ON HAVING THAT TYPE OF LIST HERE TWICE A YEAR AT B SESSION TO GIVE THE COUNCIL AS A GROUP AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS COMING UP.

WE DO THAT DELIBERATELY SO THAT TO COUNCILMAN PELAEZ'S POINT, IT IS NOT PERFECT, BUT IT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO WORK AND IMPROVE UPON.

WE CONTRACT FOR A LOT OF SERVICES AND GOODS DURING THE YEAR.

SO BEING CONSISTENT AND RELIABLE AND FOLKS THAT WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY, THOSE STANDARDS ARE IMPORTANT.

THANK YOU FOR THE FEEDBACK ON THAT FIRST ITEM.

>> ERIC, I WILL CHIME IN, I THINK OUR STANDARD HAS TO BE TRANSPARENCY AND CONSISTENCY WITH THE ENTIRE PROCESS.

THERE ARE TOO MANY BAD THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN IN GOVERNMENTAL BODIES WHEN WE GET HERKY JERKY ABOUT THE WAY WE DO PROCUREMENT.

IT OPENS THE DOOR FOR COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THOSE WHO REPRESENT PEOPLE WHO WANT CONTRACTS FROM THE PUBLIC SECTOR TO GO AWRY.

AND SO YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THAT TROY HAS TAKEN THAT CHARGE ON, THE TRANSPARENCY HAS TO BE PARAMOUNT, WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT IS CONSISTENT ALL THE WAY AROUND

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THE BOARD.

>> YEAH.

>> SO AGREEMENT FOR THE CONVENTION AND SPORTS FACILITIES DEPARTMENT.

SO THIS IS AN ITEM THAT PATRICIA WILL GO THROUGH THE TIME LINE.

THIS IS AN ITEM THAT HAS GONE THROUGH OUR STANDARD PROCESS.

HAS GONE THROUGH BOTH PRESOLICITATION, P POSTSOLICITATION BRIEFING AT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE.

AS I WAS REVIEWING THE AGENDA TWO WEEKS AGO, WEEK AND A HALF AGO.

THIS IS AN ITEM THAT COULD BE HIGH-PROFILE BUT BEGAN UNDER A DIFFERENT STANDARD AND IS ON THE AGENDA FOR TOMORROW.

ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WILL NEVER SEE UNLESS IT IS A SERIOUS EMERGENCY IS AN ITEM ON B SESSION WITH ACTION TOMORROW.

I WANTED TO INCLUDE WITH TODAY'S ITEM A BRIEFING, BECAUSE IN LIGHT OF THE FIRST ITEM -- THE CONVERSATION YOU HAD ABOUT HIGH-PROFILE CONTRACTS, TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY.

AND PATRICIA WILL WALK THROUGH THE SOLICITATION, THIS IS A REVENUE CONTRACT.

AND IS CENTERED ON CONVENIENCE AND REVENUE FOR THE BUILDINGS.

AND CERTAINLY EVENTS LIKE THE OTHER NIGHT, LIKE THE SOCCER GAME ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO US FROM A REVENUE PERSPECTIVE.

BUT ALSO FROM A LOCAL PARTICIPATION STANDPOINT.

THE OTHER THING I WILL ADD IS THAT IT IS ON THE AGENDA TOMORROW.

IT IS ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE THIS CONTRACT ENDS AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

THERE IS A TIMELINESS ISSUE.

I WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT EXPLANATION UP-FRONT BECAUSE I'M ADDING -- I ASKED PATRICIA AND CARLOS TO ADD IT TO THIS AGENDA TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS IT IN A B SESSION AND NOT HAVE TO RELY UPON ONLY AN A SESSION BRIEFING.

SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO BETTER AT THIS.

AND GIVE YOU PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

PATRICIA.

>> OK.

THANK YOU, ERIC.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, COUNCIL, I'M PATRICIA CANTOR, DIRECTOR OF CONVENTION AND SPORTS FACILITIES DEPARTMENT.

AS ERIC MENTIONED I WILL PRESENT A BRIEFING ON THE SOLICITATION PROCESS FOR THE AUTOMATEED TICKETING SYSTEM AGREEMENT FOR THE CONVENTION AND SPORTS FACILITIES DEPARTMENT.

THE PURPOSE IS TO SELECT A QUALIFIED RESPONDENT WHO CAN PROVIDE AN AUTOMATED TICKETING SYSTEM FOR THE ALAMODOME, LYLY COCKEREL AND COMMUNITY CENTER INCLUDING JOE LONG THEATER AND LITTLE CARVER.

THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT IS FIVE-YEAR TERM WITH FIVE-YEAR RENEWAL OPTION.

WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS, FROM THE DEPARTMENT'S PERSPECTIVE, WE HAD SEVERAL GOALS FOR THE SOLICITATION.

FIRST, IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE A SOCYST INDICATED TICKET -- SOPHISTICATED TICKETING SYSTEM THAT TOOK ADVANTAGE OF PRESENT AND EMERGING TECHNOLOGY AND WE WANTED TO INVEST WITH A

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RESP RESPONDENT TO INVEST IN IMPROVEMENTS AND MAINTAIN ON AN ONGOING STATE-OF-THE-ART SYSTEM.

SECOND, IT WAS IMPORTANT TO HAVE A SYSTEM THAT WAS EASY AND CONVENIENT TO USE NOT ONLY FOR THE CONSUMER BUT FOR THE STAFF AND THAT PROVIDED THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF SERVICE IN A TIMELY, EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT MANNER.

WE WERE ALSO LOOKING FOR A PROPOSAL THAT PROVIDES THE BEST VALUE TO THE CONSUMERS THROUGH REASONABLE AND FLEXIBLE CUSTOMER FEES.

AND ALSO VERY IMPORTANT TO US WAS TO HAVE A SYSTEM THAT PROVIDED EXTENSIVE MARKETING RESOURCES.

WHY? BECAUSE EXTENSIVE MARKETING RESOURCES HELP US SELL MORE TICKETS AND INCREASE ATTENDANCE AT OUR EVENTS.

IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT, EQUALLY IMPORTANT IS TO CONTRACT WITH A RESPONDENT WHO IS AT THE FOREFRONT OF ANTIFRAUD MEASURES AND OFFER MAXIMUM SECURITY OF ALL DATA.

IT WAS THE ALSO VERY IMPORTANT TO PARTNER WITH A RESPONDENT WHO CAN PROVIDE TECHNICAL SUPPORT TO HELP US RESOLVE ANY ISSUES BEFORE, DURING AND AFTER AN EVENT.

AND LAST, WE WERE ALSO LOOKING FOR A PROPOSAL THAT PROVIDED THE BIGGEST RETURN TO THE CITY.

WITH THE GOAL BEING MORE REVENUE COULD HELP WITH OPERATIONS, WITH FACILITIES AND PAY OFF THE DEBT WITH THE RECENT RENOVATIONS AT THE ALAM ALAMODOME.

AND HAVE A SETS THAT CAN PRINT, SCAN AND PROVIDE TICKETS.

THE ESSENTIAL PART IS TO PROVIDE MAXIMUM REVENUE SHARE MODEL WITH THE STAY.

THE SYSTEM ALSO NEEDED THE ABILITY TO ACCESS DATA ANALYTICS AND REAL-TIME SALES FIGURES AND MARKETING TOOLS LIKE EMAIL BLASTS.

FULL-TIME REPRESENTATIVES AND TECHNICAL SUPPORT DURING REGULAR AND BOX OFFICE HOURS WAS A REQUIREMENT.

THE RESPONDENTS WERE ASKED TO PROVIDE ALL EQUIPMENT AND TICKET STOCK AND PROVIDE TECHNOLOGY UPGRADES AND LICENSES.

THE SYSTEM ALSO NEEDED TO BE CERTIFIED TO PROCESS CREDIT CARD TRANSACTIONS THROUGH THE CITY'S MERCHANT BANKING SYSTEM APPRECIATEDERS PLATFORM AND BE COMPLIANT WITH THE PAYMENT CARD INDUSTRY AND DATA SECURITY STANDARDS.

AN ANNUAL MARKETING AND TECHNOLOGY CONTRIBUTION OF A MINIMUM OF 25,000 WAS ALSO A REQUIREMENT TO HELP US ADVERTISE AND PROMOTE EVENTS AND ALSO HELP US PURCHASE ASSOCIATED TECHNOLOGY.

AS AN ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION, WE ALSO ASKED RESPONDENTS TO PROPOSE A CONTRIBUTION TO ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FUND THAT WOULD HELP US INVEST IN A WIDE RANGE OF ENTERTAINMENT INITIATIVES THROUGHOUT OUR DIVERSE COMMUNITY.

SO AS FAR AS THE SOLICITATION TIME LINE, WE FOLLOWED THE PROCESS.

NOT SHOWN ON THAT SLIDE, IT BEGAN IN DECEMBER WITH THE P PREP PREP PRESLIS -- PRESOLICITATION BRIEFING.

WE ISSUED IN JANUARY, PROPOSALS DUE IN FEBRUARY, THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE EVALUATED AND INTERVIEWED ALL RESPONDENTS IN APRIL.

A POSTSOLICITATION BRIEFING WAS PROVIDED TO THE COMMITTEE LATE LAST MONTH AND THE COMMITTEE VOTED TO MOVE IT FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL TOMORROW.

THIS WILL BE PRESENTED ON TOMORROW'S COUNCIL AGENDA, THE NEW CONTRACT IS SCHEDULED TO BEGIN OCTOBER 1, PENDING COUNCIL APPROVAL.

AS ERIC MENTIONED, THE CURRENT CONTRACT EXPIRES SEPTEMBER 30TH.

THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE CONSISTED OF ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER LITTLE CARLOS CON CONTRERAS, MYSELF, ITS DIRECTOR CRAIG HOPKINS, MELANIE MCKEE, ADAM MCKENSZY, VICE PRESIDENT FOR VALERO ALAMO BOWL.

AND THE DIRECTOR FIREFOR ATHLETICS, DARREN COTTILIA.

THERE WAS 35 POINTS FOR EXPERIENCE, QUALIFICATIONS AND BACKGROUND.

30 POINTS FOR PROPOSED PLAN, 20 POINTS FOR PRICE.

10 POINTS FOR LOCAL PREFERENCE PROGRAM AND FIVE POINTS FOR VETERAN OWNED SMALL BUSINESS PREFERENCE PROGRAM.

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THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE EVALUATED THE EXPERIENCE BACKGROUND AND QUALIFICATIONS AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED PLAN FOR A TOTAL OF 65 POINTS IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT EVALUATED THE PRICE, LOCAL PREFERENCE AND THE SMALL VETERAN OWNED SMALL BUSINESS FOR THE REMAINING THE DEPARTMENT RECEIVED

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PROPOSALS FROM THREE RESPONDENTS, INCLUDING TICKETMASTER, THE TOBIN CENTER, AND SQUAT APP.

WITH REGARDS TO EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS, TICKETMASTER RECEIVED THE HIGHEST POINTS FOLLOWED BY THE TOBIN CENTER AND SQUATA.

IN EVALUATING THE PROPOSALS THE COMMITTEE SAW A VAST DIFFERENCE IN THE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND THE NUMBER OF CLIENTS SERVED AND THE NUMBER OF ANNUAL TICKETS SOLD AND ASSOCIATED REVENUE AS WELL AS THE WEBSITE TRAFFIC BETWEEN TICKETMASTER AND THE OTHER CORRESPONDENTS.

FOR EXAMPLE, TICKETMASTER HAS 43 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.

TICKETMASTER SELLS 480 MILLION TICKETS ANNUALLY COMPARED TO 250,000 BY THE TOBIN CENTER.

TICKETMASTER ALSO HAS $1.4 BILLION, BILLION, I STRESS, VISITORS ANNUALLY TO THEIR WEBSITE.

AND THE TOBIN CENTER HAS 1.2 MILLION ANNUAL VISITORS.

THE EXTENSIVE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT TICKETMASTER IS AN INDUSTRY LEADER IN TICKETING SET TICKETMASTER APART FROM OTHER RESPONDENTS.

UNDER THE PROPOSED PLAN, TICKETMASTER ALSO RECEIVED THE HIGHEST POINTS FOLLOWED BY THE TOBIN CENTER AND SQUAD UP.

SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT SET TICKETMASTER APART FROM THE OTHER RESPONDENTS INCLUDED THEY OFFER THEIR OWN TICKETING SYSTEM THAT THEY MAINTAIN THEMSELVES.

SQUAD UP ALSO PROPOSED THEIR OWN TICKETING SYSTEM.

THE TOBIN CENTER PROPOSED A TICKETING SYSTEM THAT IS SUPPORTED BY A THAT'S RIGHT CALLED AUDIENCE VIEW.

AUDIENCE VIEW IS A WHITE LABEL COMPANY.

IN THIS CASE THEY PRODUCE A TICKETING SYSTEM THAT THEY SELL TO OTHERS TO REBRAND AS THEIR OWN.

THIS TYPE OF PARTNERSHIP RESULTS IN A TIERED CUSTOMER SUPPORT WHICH CAN LEAD TO DELAYS IN SERVICE AND HINDER OPERATIONS.

TICKETMASTER HAS NOT ONLY A HUGE LOCAL BUT A GLOBAL MARKETING REACH.

FOR EXAMPLE, DURING OUR MOST RECENT INTERNATIONAL SOCCER EVENT AT THE ALAMODOME LAST WEEK, OVER 56% OF THE TICKETS THAT WERE SOLD ONLINE WERE SOLD OUTSIDE OF THE SAN ANTONIO MARKET.

LOCALLY, TICKETMASTER HAS FIVE TIMES MORE SUBSCRIBERS THAN THE TOBIN CENTER AND SQUAD UP.

THIS EXPOSURE RESULTS IN AN INCREASED OPPORTUNITY FOR US FOR TICKET SALES.

ADDITIONALLY, TICKETMASTER HAS BUSINESS RELATIONSHIPS WITHFELD, SOCCER UNITED MARKETING, WHICH BROUGHT US THIS LAST SOCCER EVENT.

WHICH HAS BASICALLY FOR THESE EVENTS OVER 50% OF OUR ANNUAL ATTENDEES COME FROM THESE EVENTS.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE ALSO THAT OUR TWO TENANTS, UTSA AND VALERO ALAMO BOWL ALSO HAVE THEIR OWN TICKETING AGREEMENTS WITH TICKETMASTER TO SELL THEIR SEASON TICKETS.

TICKETMASTER ALSO OFFERED THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF THE LOCAL, REGIONAL, AND NATIONAL ACCOUNT REPRESENTATIVES WITH 24/7 TECHNICAL SUPPORT.

AND TICKETMASTER WAS THE ONLY RESPONDENT THAT WAS CERTIFIED TO PROCESS CREDIT CARD TRANSACTIONS THROUGH THE CITY'S MERCHANT BANKING SERVICE PROVIDER.

AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, AN ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION WAS THAT WE ASKED RESPONDENTS TO PROPOSE A CONTRIBUTION TO AN ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FUND.

TICKETMASTER PROPOSED $50,000 PER YEAR TO BE USED CITY WIDE.

AND THE TOBIN CENTER PROPOSED $500,000 ANNUAL CONTRIBUTION TO THIS FUND TO BE USED AT THE TOBIN CENTER.

A COMPARISON OF THE ECONOMIC TERMS OF THE PROPOSALS ARE AS FOLLOWS.

UNDER THE TICKETMASTER AGREEMENT, THE CITY WILL RECEIVE $2 MILLION PER YEAR COMPARED TO $1.5 MILLION UNDER THE TOBIN CENTER PROPOSAL AND $173,000 THROUGH THE SQUAD UP PROPOSAL.

TICKETMASTER WAS THE ONLY RESPONDENT THAT OFFERED ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES SUCH AS A ONE-TIME $250,000 SIGN-ON BONUS.

TICKETMASTER ALSO PROPOSED $50,000 ANNUAL CONTRIBUTION TO THE MARKETING AND TECHNOLOGY FUND.

BOTH THE TOBIN CENTER AND SQUAD UP PROPOSED THE MINIMUM CONTRIBUTION OF $25,000 AND THE TOBIN CENTER PROPOSED TO USE THOSE FUNDS TO ADVERTISE AND PROMOTE THEIR TICKETING SYSTEM AS A SOURCE OF TICKETS TO ATTRACTIONS AT THE EVENTS.

IN RELATION TO FEES TO THE CONSUMERS -- AND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US, THAT WAS ONE OF OUR GOALS.

UNDER THE TICKETMASTER AGREEMENT, FEES WILL NOT INCREASE MORE THAN 20 CENTS EVERY OTHER YEAR.

UNDER THE TOBIN PROPOSAL, THEIR FEES WILL INCREASE 50 CENTS

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EVERY OTHER YEAR.

TICKETMASTER AND SQUAD UP OFFERED SUPPLIES AT NO CHARGE AND PROPOSED ZERO START-UP COST.

THE TOBIN CENTER PROPOSED $269,000 IN INITIAL EQUIPMENT PURCHASES TO BE NETTED OUT OF THE CONTRIBUTION OF THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FUND, AND $100,000 FOR DATA MIGRATION TO TRANSFER TO AUDIENCE VIEW PLATFORM AT THE CITY'S EXPENSE.

THE TOBIN CENTER ALSO PROPOSED A ONE CENT PER TICKET AND A 7-CENT PER ENVELOPE.

COST TO THE CITY.

THESE FEES EQUATE TO ABOUT $16,000 COST TO THE CITY.

TICKETMASTER ALSO PROPOSED OTHER ONE-TIME INCENTIVES.

FOR EXAMPLE, A $10,000 ONE-TIME CONTRIBUTION IN ORDER TO ENHANCE THE BOX OFFICE AT THE LILA COCKRELL THEATER TO HELP US WITH THE START OF THE BROADWAY SERIES THAT WILL START THERE IN 2023.

AND THEY ALSO PROPOSED A $30,000 ONE-TIME ALLOWANCE TO HELP US ESTABLISH REMOTE BOX OFFICE LOCATIONS AT THE ALAMODOME WHENEVER WE HAD AN EXTENDED PARAMETER FOR SOME BIG EVENTS.

SO, AGAIN, FOR AN ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FUND, TICKETMASTER PROPOSED $50,000 PER YEAR TO BE USED CITYWIDE.

THE TOBIN CENTER, AGAIN, PROPOSED $500,000 ANNUAL CONTRIBUTION NET OF THE START-UP EQUIPMENT COSTS TO BE USED AT THE TOBIN CENTER.

IN THE OVERALL SCORING, TICKETMASTER RECEIVED 80 POINTS COMPARED TO 60 POINTS FOR THE TOBIN CENTER.

AND 36 POINTS FOR SQUAD UP.

DUE DILIGENCE ON ALL THREE RESPONDENTS WAS COMPLETED BY THE CITY AUDITOR, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND NO MAJOR FINDINGS OR EXCEPTIONS WERE FOUND.

IT IS WORTHY TO NOTE THAT TICKETMASTER SCORED THE HIGHEST WHEN IT CAME TO THE CATEGORIES OF EXPERIENCE, BACKGROUND, AND QUALIFICATIONS, PROPOSED PLAN, AND PRICING.

TICKETMASTER ALSO HAS -- SO AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION I MENTIONED TO YOU THAT OUR GOAL FOR THIS CONTRACT WAS TO SELL TICKETS AND TO MAXIMIZE REVENUE FOR OUR FACILITIES WHILE STILL PROVIDING EXCEPTIONAL TICKETING EXPERIENCES FOR END USERS AND OUR CUSTOMERS.

TICKETMASTER HAS THE LARGEST MARKETING REACH OUT OF ANY OTHER ENTITY.

THIS REACH TRANSLATES TO TICKET SALES AND ULTIMATELY IT ALSO RESULTS IN MORE REVENUE TO OUR DEPARTMENT.

CASE IN POINT, SO THIS LAST INTERNATIONAL SOCCER EVENT THAT WE HAD AT THE ALAMODOME LAST WEEK, I TOLD YOU THAT 56% OF THE TICKETS THAT WERE SOLD ONLINE WERE SOLD OUTSIDE OF THE SAN ANTONIO MARKET.

OVER 775 WERE SOLD INTERNATIONALLY.

OVER 600 WERE SOLD OUTSIDE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS.

AND OVER 11,000 WERE SOLD OUT OF SAN ANTONIO.

ALL OF THESE OUT OF MARKET TICKET SALES TRANSLATE TO OVER NINE STATES AND THEY BOOST OUR LOCAL ECONOMY.

ANOTHER EXAMPLE, THE METALLICA CONCERT HELD AT THE ALAMODOME IN JUNE OF 2017, AGAIN, OVER 56,000 PEOPLE THERE FOR THAT CONCERT.

AND, AGAIN, 55% OF THE ONLINE TICKETS THAT WERE PURCHASED WERE PURCHASED OUTSIDE OF THE SAN ANTONIO MARKET.

OVER 80 WERE PURCHASED INTERNATIONALLY AND CLOSE TO 10,000 WERE PURCHASED OUTSIDE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS.

AGAIN, PEOPLE COMING TO OUR COMMUNITY TO STAY HERE AND VISIT US.

AS A DEPARTMENT, WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN IN ORDER TO INCREASE THE NUMBER AND THE QUALITY OF EVENTS AT OUR FACILITIES.

WE ARE PROPOSING MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR FACILITIES OVER THE NEXT FIVE TO TEN YEARS AND IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE DRIVE AS MUCH REVENUE AS WE CAN SO THAT WE CAN HELP INVEST IN OUR FACILITIES AND MAINTAIN OUR RELEVANCE AND ARE COMPETITIVE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS TO COME.

OUR OVERALL SUS AS A PREMIER VENUE OF SPORTING AND ENTERTAINMENT IS PREDICATED ON THE ABILITY OF OUR BUSINESS PARTNERS TO PERFORM, AND TICKETMASTER HAS DONE THAT FOR US FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

NOT HAVING THE BEST IN THE INDUSTRY WHEN IT COMES TO TICKETING SALES AND SERVICE CAN PUT THE ALAMODOME AND OUR OTHER FACILITIES AT A COMPETITIVE DISADVANTAGE.

IN CONCLUSION, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THE AUTOMATED TICKETING SYSTEM, AS HAS BEEN SAID, IT'S

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ON TOMORROW'S COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.

I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, PATRICIA, FOR THE PRESENTATION.

JUST SO I'M UNDERSTANDING -- I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS HERE.

ON SLIDE 9, DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, YOU HAVE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FUND.

AND TICKETMASTER IS PROPOSING A $50,000 PER YEAR CONTRIBUTION TO THE CITY.

THAT'S OVER AND ABOVE THE REVENUE TO THE CITY GUARANTEED IN THE CONTRACT IN THE FIRST LINE?

>> YES.

IT'S ABOUT THE $2 MILLION PER YEAR, YES, SIR.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: BUT THAT'S OVER AND ABOVE THE $2 MILLION?

>> YES.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: OR IS THAT INCLUSIVE OF $2 MILLION?

>> ABOVE THE $2 MILLION.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: IS THE SAME TRUE FOR THE $500,000 CONTRIBUTION THAT THE TOBIN CENTER IS PROPOSING TO THE CITY, THAT IT'S OVER AND ABOVE THEIR $1.5 MILLION GUARANTEE IN THE CONTRACT?

>> YES.

THE TOBIN CENTER PROPOSED -- IN THEIR PROPOSAL WAS ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS TO THE CITY.

BUT WE TOOK BASICALLY THEIR REVENUE PROJECTIONS AND EXTRAPOLATED THAT BASED ON HISTORICAL FIGURES AND WE CAME UP WITH 1.5.

THE $500,000 WAS IN ADDITION TO THE $1.5 MILLION.

BUT, AGAIN, IT WAS PROPOSED TO STAY AT THE TOBIN CENTER.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

I THINK I GOT IT.

NOW, ARE THESE GUARANTEES IN THE CONTRACT? THE TOP LINE REVENUE TO THE CITY?

>> THEY ARE NOT GUARANTEES WITH ANY OF THE PROPOSALS, NO.

IT WAS BASED ON HISTORICAL FIGURES.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: BASED ON THE HISTORICAL FIGURES, YOU'RE PROJECTING A FAIRLY LEVEL REVENUE TO THE CITY.

I MEAN, IF YOU ADD THE $500,000 TO THE $1.5 MILLION IN REVENUE TO THE CITY, IN TOBIN CENTER, IT'S EQUAL TO THE $2 MILLION, ROUGHLY, THAT YOU'RE PROJECTING FOR TICKETMASTER'S HISTORICAL SALES.

AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY?

>> IF YOU COUNT IN THE $500,000 FOR THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT CENTER THAT WAS PROPOSED TO STAY AT THE TOBIN, IT'S ABOUT EQUITABLE.

THE FIRST YEAR UNDER THE TICKETMASTER PROPOSAL, IT WOULD BE ABOUT $2.39 MILLION.

AND UNDER THE TOBIN PROPOSAL, IF YOU COUNT ALSO THAT $500,000 FOR THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT, IT WOULD BE ABOUT $2,025,000.

>> IF I CAN CLARIFY -- GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE TO THE CITY AS OPPOSED TO THE TOBIN IS THE 1.5 BASED ON THE REVENUE SHARE THEY ARE PROPOSING TO PROVIDE TO US, MULTIPLIED BY OUR HISTORIC NUMBERS.

THE $500,000 WOULD NOT COME TO THE CITY, IT WILL BE UTILIZED BY THE TOBIN CENTER FOR THE ART GROUPS THERE.

THE $2 MILLION IN THAT FIRST COLUMN FROM TICKETMASTER IS ACTUALLY REVENUE TO THE CITY THAT CAN BE UTILIZED TO UPDATE OUR BUILDINGS, TO DO MAINTENANCE, FOR OPERATIONAL PURPOSES.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: OKAY.

BUT I'M VIEWING TOBIN AS A CITY ASSET.

SO $500,000 TO THE TOBIN, ESSENTIALLY, WOULD BE REVENUE TO A CITY-OWNED ASSET.

>> IT IS NOT A CITY-OWNED ASSET, TO MY KNOWLEDGE.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: WELL, TO A PUBLIC ASSET THAT WE MANAGE.

>> $500,000 WOULD ACTUALLY BE USED BY THE TOBIN CENTER.

YES.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

AND THE MONEY, THE TICKETMASTER FUNDING, WOULD BE UTILIZED BY THE CITY.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: NOW, IF WE GO OVER TO PROCESS-WISE, THIS WENT THROUGH AUDIT COMMITTEE?

>> YES.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: IT WAS BLIND?

>> IT WENT THROUGH PRESOLICITATION BRIEFING AND POST SOLICITATION BRIEFING.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: OKAY.

BUT THE RESPONDENTS WERE NOT DISCLOSED AT THAT POINT.

>> THEY WERE NOT.

>> MAYOR, IT WAS THE OLD PROCESS, SO THE RESPONDENTS WERE NOT DISCLOSED.

IT WAS A BLIND PRESENTATION.

AND THEN THE AUDIT COMMITTEE REVIEWED PRE AND POST AND RECOMMENDED TO GO TO COUNCIL TOMORROW.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: COUNCILMAN TREVINO.

>> TREVINO: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU, PATRICIA, FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

SO I'M GOING TO TELL A QUICK LITTLE STORY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO KNOW WHO WAS PICKED.

THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY IT'S SET UP AND WE'RE KEEPING IT THAT WAY IN THE AUDIT COMMITTEE FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.

THIS IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT IN THE PREVIOUS COMMENTS ABOUT SORT OF COMPRESSING THE TIME THAT FOLKS ARE TALKING ABOUT IT.

AND AS THE MAYOR WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT.

WHAT IS REALLY GOING TO THE TOBIN CENTER? LET'S BE CLEAR WHAT'S GOING.

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THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT MONEY THAT'S GOING TO RESIDENT COMPANIES AT THE TOBIN CENTER.

THAT'S THE SYMPHONY, THAT'S THE OPERA, THE BALLET.

SO IT'S NOT -- WELL, LET ME BACK UP.

JANUARY 2, 2018, CELEBRATING OUR TRICENTENNIAL AND WE WERE SUPPOSED TO ANNOUNCE THAT THAT WAS THE LAST CONCERT OF THE SYMPHONY.

THAT WAS THE LAST CONCERT.

ON OUR TRICENTENNIAL YEAR.

WE SAID, DO YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT'S CRAZY. LOSE OUR SYMPHONY ON OUR TRICENTENNIAL YEAR.

AND SO I REMEMBER SPENDING THAT SATURDAY MORNING WITH LORI HOUSTON, CRUNCHING NUMBERS SAYING, DO YOU KNOW WHAT? NO, WE CAN'T DO THAT.

WE STILL HAD ABOUT 380-SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT COULD CARRY THEM TO A CERTAIN POINT.

AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THE HISTORY OF THAT IS THAT ESSENTIALLY THEY WERE ABLE TO FINISH OUT THE YEAR IN THE BLACK.

WITHIN THAT WE ALSO LEARNED, HEY, WE GOT TO THINK OF A BETTER WAY TO DO THIS.

RIGHT? AND THE BETTER WAY IS SAYING, DO YOU KNOW WHAT? HOW ARE WE THINKING ABOUT FUNDING OUR ARTS COMMUNITIES MORE ROBUSTLY? WHERE CAN WE DO THIS? NOW, WE'RE HAVING THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WE'RE HAVING THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT THE HOMELESS AND WE SHOULD BE HAVING THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT THE ARTS.

NO QUESTIONS.

NOW, I THINK, PATRICIA, CARLOS, YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB OF MAKING THE CASE FOR, YOU KNOW, WHY THIS IS THE PICK FOR YOUR FACILITIES, BUT I THINK OUR JOBS UP HERE IS TO BE THINKING ABOUT A BIGGER PICTURE, A MORE COMPLETE ONE.

AND YOU USE THE WORD "VALUES" AND I THINK THIS IS THE VALUES OF OUR COMMUNITY.

THROUGHOUT THAT YEAR AN IDEA CAME UP.

AN IDEA CAME UP WHERE, HEY, GUESS WHAT? DO YOU KNOW WHO COULD ACTUALLY HANDLE SOMEBODY THESE SERVICES? THE TOBIN CENTER.

AND SO WE BEGAN THIS PROCESS ON OUR TRICENTENNIAL YEAR THINKING, YOU KNOW WHAT? WOW, THIS COULD BE A BIG DEAL.

THIS COULD REALLY HELP US.

AND WHEN WE'RE SAYING, OH, IT'S NOT GOING TO THE CITY, IT'S GOING TO THE TOBIN CENTER.

NO.

YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE HELPING THE SYMPHONY, WE'RE HELPING THE CITY.

IF WE'RE HELPING THE OPERA, WE'RE HELPING THE CITY.

AND SO THIS IS SOME SERIOUS DOLLARS.

AND SO WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT COMPRESSION, I HAD THAT CONVERSATION.

I HAD THAT MEETING YESTERDAY WITH PATRICIA.

I ALSO HAD A MEETING WITH MIKE FRESHER ABOUT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I WON'T GET INTO THE NUMBERS BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE NEED IS THE TIME -- I WANT EVERYBODY, MY COLLEAGUES, TO HAVE THAT MEETING.

BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOME DISCREPANCIES HERE.

AND THERE'S SOME TECHNICALITIES I THINK WE CAN WORK AROUND.

NOW, FIRST OF ALL THE FIRST TECHNICALITY I THINK WOULD SURPRISE EVERYBODY, THEY DID NOT GET AWARDED LOCAL PREFERENCE POINTS.

WHY? OVER THE FACT THAT THEY ARE A NONPROFIT VERSUS A PROFIT STATUS.

NOW, WE WOULD AGREE THAT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE INTENTION OF WHY WE WOULD DO LOCAL PREFERENCE.

BUT, GUESS WHAT? THAT'S TEN POINTS.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOW BEING ALSO TOLD THAT, HEY, MAN, THIS CONTRACT IS UP AT THE END OF THE MONTH.

WE GOT TO VOTE ON THIS.

WELL, AGAIN, THESE RESPONSES WERE DUE FEBRUARY 15TH, INTERVIEWS END OF APRIL.

WELL, HERE'S THE TIMELINE.

AND THEN OF COURSE NOW HERE WE ARE WHERE THE CONTRACT BEGINS RIGHT ON OCTOBER AND WE'RE SORT COMPRESSED IN THIS.

AND OF COURSE WHICH IS HOW ELSE ARE WE SUPPOSED TO HELP THE ARTS ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR CITY? IF WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR ALL THESE OPPORTUNITIES TO FUND ARTS ORGANIZATIONS? SOME OF THE BIGGEST ONES ARE AT THE TOBIN CENTER.

AND HELPING THEM LIKE THIS HELPS DEBBIE RACCA SITTER FUND ALL ARTS COMMUNITIES.

AND SO YOU CAN'T SAY THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO THE CITY.

IN FACT, I REJECT THAT.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU START TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISONS THAT I GOT TO SEE, I MEAN, THERE'S JUST SOME QUESTION MARKS.

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AND, AGAIN, MAYBE I'M WRONG BUT I KNOW WHAT I'M NOT WRONG ABOUT.

I'M NOT WRONG ABOUT BEING COMMITTED TO SUPPORTING THE ARTS.

FINDING LAYERS OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT CAN HELP US, YOU KNOW, MORE ROBUSTLY TAKE CARE OF SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW HAS BEEN DIFFICULT YEAR AFTER YEAR.

AND DO WE REALLY -- ARE WE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS OR NOT? AND WHAT I KNOW IS WE GOT PAST OUR TRICENTENNIAL YEAR AND NOW IS IT OKAY TO LOSE THE SYMPHONY? NO.

AND I WOULD SAY THAT HERE IS SOME INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITIES TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.

WE'RE DOING THAT, LIKE I SAID, WITH ALL THESE OTHER STRATEGIES.

YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK WE NEED TO HAVE TIME TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

I WANT MY COLLEAGUES TO BE ABLE TO ASK THEIR QUESTIONS AND THINK ABOUT THIS AND NOT JUST GO FROM THIS B SESSION 18 HOURS LATER AND HAVE TO VOTE TOMORROW BECAUSE WE SOMEHOW JUST GOT TO GET IT DONE.

REALLY, I THINK THE ONLY QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, CAN WE NOT GET AN EXTENSION FROM OCTOBER 1ST? I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY QUESTION.

>> IF I MAY, COUNCILMAN TREVINO, JUST TO MAKE A COMMENT.

AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE GOALS OF THE SOLICITATION, IT WAS TO HELP US SELL MORE TICKETS TO MAXIMIZE REVENUE.

>> TREVINO: I KNOW.

AND I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU BECAUSE, LOOK, YES.

THAT'S WHAT I SAID.

I AGREE WITH THAT AND I TALKED WITH CARLOS ABOUT THIS, BUT THIS IS MY POINT.

I SPOKE WITH LORI HOUSTON ABOUT THIS.

I SPOKE WITH DEBBIE RACCA SITTER ABOUT THIS.

I KNOW I BROUGHT THIS UP SEVERAL TIMES IN THE ARTS AND CULTURE AND HERITAGE COMMITTEE THAT WE ONCE HAD, AND THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE RFP.

BUT I'M BRINGING IT UP NOW BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE'RE HERE.

WE'RE NOT A RUBBER STAMP.

I'M GIVING YOU THE HISTORY.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

IT'S A COUNCIL PREROGATIVE.

CERTAINLY COUNCIL COULD MAKE A MOTION TOMORROW TO EXTEND IT IF THE COUNCIL CHOSE TO DO THAT.

THE CONTRACT DOES EXPIRE.

THERE ARE NO AVAILABLE EXTENSIONS LEFT ON THAT CONTRACT.

BUT COUNCIL COULD TAKE ACTION TOMORROW.

>> TREVINO: THERE ARE NO AVAILABLE EXTENSIONS?

>> THERE ARE NONE.

WE HAVE EXHAUSTED THEM ALL.

>> TREVINO: OKAY.

WELL, I MEAN, AGAIN I THINK IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT WE GOT HERE LIKE THIS.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE ARTS COMMUNITY THAT REALLY ARE RELYING ON US TO BE THINKING ABOUT THEM ON EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.

AND FINDING WAYS TO HELP THEM IN DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN PROVIDE THAT FUNDING MECHANISM, PROVIDE REVENUES.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS KIND OF CREATES A RIPPLE EFFECT THAT CAN HELP US.

SO I GUESS I WOULD JUST CHALLENGE THAT.

I WOULD DOUBLE CHECK THAT WE COULDN'T GET AN EXTENSION SOMEHOW TO JUST -- I'M ASKING FOR THIS TO SIMPLY NOT GO ON TOMORROW'S A SESSION VOTE BUT GO TO THE NEXT COUNCIL AGENDA FOR A VOTE.

SO MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES CAN HAVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION SO WE CAN LOOK AT THIS MORE ROBUSTLY, SO WE CAN DOUBLE CHECK WHAT YOU JUST SAID, CARLOS.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: COUNCILMAN, ANDY WANTS TO CLARIFY SOMETHING.

>> WHAT I SAID ON THE CONTRACT WERE THERE ARE NO AVAILABLE EXTENSIONS COUNCIL HAS THE POWER TO DO THAT.

>> TREVINO: THAT'S MUCH DIFFERENT.

>> IT WILL REQUIRE, THOUGH, IT WILL REQUIRE THE AGREEMENT OF TICKETMASTER.

WE CAN'T UNILATERALLY EXTEND.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT.

WE CAN ASK -- COUNCIL CAN ASK TO HAVE A MOTION.

I DON'T SEE WHY THEY WOULDN'T BUT I DO NEED TO EMPHASIZE THEY WOULD HAVE TO AGREE TO IT.

>> YEAH.

I WAS JUST SAYING THAT UNDER THE AGREEMENT THERE'S NO MORE AVAILABLE EXTENSIONS, BUT CERTAINLY YOU COULD DO THAT.

>> TREVINO: WELL, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN START MAKING SOME PHONE CALLS, QUICKLY.

>> IF YOU DON'T MIND, COUNCILMAN, YOU RAISED THE POINT ABOUT THE NONPROFITS NOT BEING AVAILABLE FOR THE LOCAL PREFERENCE POINTS.

THAT'S BY ORDINANCE.

BY ORDINANCE ADOPTED --

>> TREVINO: YEAH, THAT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME BUT WE MADE THAT ORDINANCE, RIGHT? I'M SAYING SOMETIMES WE -- THAT'S, AGAIN, ANOTHER KEY POINT OF WHY WE'RE HERE IS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SOMETIMES REALIZE THAT THERE'S SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT GOES WITH THAT.

SO I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT AND BE ADDRESSING IN THAT, YOU KNOW, HOW WE INTENDED THAT LOCAL PREFERENCE TO WORK AND WHY.

SO, AGAIN, I WON'T NECESSARILY GET INTO SOME OF THE DETAILS OR

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THE THINGS THAT I HEARD THAT I THINK JUST REALLY PERKS MY EARS UP AND I JUST SIMPLY WANT TO ASK, AS PART OF OUR PROCESS.

AND PART OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN VERY, VERY CONSISTENTLY ASKING, AS WAS PRESENTED IN THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION, WHICH IS WE SHOULDN'T BE GOING FROM A BRIEFING TO A VOTE IN LESS THAN 24 HOURS.

WE JUST SHOULDN'T DO IT.

AND ESPECIALLY ON THINGS LIKE THIS THAT PRESENT OPPORTUNITIES TO HELP ARTS ORGANIZATIONS IN SO MANY WAYS.

THIS WILL CREATE A RIPPLE EFFECT THAT MAY NOT REALLY DEPEND ON HOW WE VOTE UP HERE.

AND I JUST THINK THAT IF WE TOOK A LEAST A WEEK SO THAT MY COLLEAGUES, SHOULD THEY CHOOSE TO DO A BRIEFING OR NOT, CAN AT LEAST GET MORE INFORMATION, GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHY WE DID THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE, WHAT THIS MEANS TO THE CITY AND THE KIND OF IMPACT IT WILL REALLY HAVE TO THE ARTS ORGANIZATIONS, ALL ARTS ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR CITY.

SO I WILL BE MAKING THAT MOTION TOMORROW.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN TREVINO.

ERIK, DO YOU WANT TO CLARIFY?

>> WALSH: I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT I'M THE ONE THAT PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TODAY SO THAT YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY.

THE COUNCIL AS A GROUP HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

WE ARE TRANSITIONING SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE BACK-TO-BACK TYPE OF ISSUES.

AND I KNEW THAT COMING IN.

IT CERTAINLY ISN'T THE FAULT OF THE STAFF WHO HAVE BEEN SHEPHERDING THIS.

BUT I JUST THOUGHT THAT GIVEN THE CONVERSATION THAT YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE ON HIGH-PROFILE CONTRACTS AND GIVEN THE HIGH-PROFILE OF THIS IT MADE SENSE TO GIVE COUNCIL THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION YOU'RE HAVING NOW AT B SESSION RATHER THAN ONLY HAVING IT AT A SESSION.

THAT WAS MY DECISION AND I THINK IT GIVES YOU A CHANCE IN THIS INFORMAL SESSION TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU KNEW THAT THAT WAS ME.

IT WASN'T THE STAFF'S FAULT.

>> TREVINO: I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.

I'M NOT BLAMING ANYBODY.

I'M JUST SIMPLY ASKING FOR A PROCESS THAT ALLOWS A BROADER PERSPECTIVE AND BROADER STORY TO BE TOLD THAT I SEE MISSING HERE.

AND, AGAIN, I DON'T BLAME PATRICIA.

I DON'T BLAME CARLOS.

THERE'S REALLY, AT THIS POINT -- THIS IS JUST PART OF THE PROCESS.

AND SO WHEN YOU ALLOW FOR LESS COMPRESSION AND OPPORTUNITY TO TALK, THEN YOU ALLOW FOR PEOPLE TO EXPRESS, HEY, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT THE INTENTION WAS.

THIS IS WHERE OUR VALUES ARE.

THIS IS WHAT WE WERE HOPING OUT OF THIS.

LET'S HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

AND SO, I MEAN, YOU CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PREVIOUS BRIEFING THAT IF YOU DON'T ALLOW THAT THIS IS WHAT YOU LOSE.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN TREVINO.

AND I'LL JUST RESTATE WHAT YOU SAID, ERIK.

UNDER THE PREVIOUS PROCESS WE WOULDN'T BE HERE AT ALL.

THIS WOULD BE ON THE A SESSION.

SO WE ARE HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS IT AS COUNCIL.

IT IS 24 HOURS LATER THAT IT'S ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE OF THE COUNCIL ACTION THAT'S NEEDED ON THE CONTRACT WHATSOEVER.

BUT THIS IS GET USED TO IT, FOLKS.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS LIKE THIS A LOT MORE OFTEN BECAUSE OF THE PROCESS WE JUST HEARD ABOUT FROM TROY JUST NOW.

BUT I DO WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING, ERIK, WITH REGARD TO THE REVENUE PICTURE.

SO, AGAIN, JUST SO I'M CLEAR.

TICKETMASTER REVENUE, $2 MILLION PER YEAR REVENUE TO THE CITY.

TOBIN CENTER REVENUE TO THE CITY, $1.5 MILLION.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, $500,000 IS GOING TO TOBIN CENTER RESIDENT COMPANIES, WHICH ARE OPERA, SYMPHONY, BALLET.

THAT'S WHAT IS BEING PROVIDED IN THIS CONTRACT.

$50,000 PER YEAR FROM TICKETMASTER TO CITY ARTS FUND.

WE ALL SUPPORT ALL THREE OF THOSE RESIDENT COMPANIES.

BUT WHAT I'M SUGGESTING FOR US TO LOOK AT IS THAT THE $500,000 THAT'S GOING TO THE RESIDENT COMPANIES IS THREE OF A PLETHORA OF ARTS ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR CITY THAT ARE NOT INCLUSIVE OF JUST THE BALLET, THE OPERA, AND THE SYMPHONY.

I HAVE BEEN ROOTING FOR TOBY IN THIS WHOLE PROCESS WHEN IT BEGAN BECAUSE IF WE DID HAVE AN AUTOMATIC REVENUE SOURCE THAT WOULD GO DIRECTLY TO THE SYMPHONY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO SEE.

BUT I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, IF THERE'S $2 MILLION OR $2,050,000 GOING TO THE REVENUE TO THE CITY THROUGH TICKETMASTER, THIS COUNCIL CAN CHOOSE TO EARMARK SOME OF THOSE FUNDS TO SEND THEM TO THE RESIDENT COMPANIES, TO SEND THEM TO THE ESPERANZA.

TO SEND THEM TO ANY OF THE OTHER ARTS ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE PART

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OF OUR ART EQUITABLE PROGRAMMING.

THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE OF REVENUE GOING TO ARTS ORGANIZATIONS.

THIS IS A QUESTION OF, AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN THE PREVIOUS AUDIT CONVERSATION, PICKING THE BEST COMPANY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SERVICES PROVIDED BRING THE BEST REVENUE TO THE CITY SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO FUND ARTS ORGANIZATIONS AS A PUBLIC ENTITY.

>> MAYOR, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THAT'S WHAT I AM GOING TO SUGGEST THAT WE DO.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS IS GOING TO CHECKING WITH OUR PARTNERS AT TICKETMASTER TO SEE IF WE CAN EXTEND THIS CONVERSATION FOR ANOTHER MONTH.

BUT WHAT I AM SUGGESTING IS THAT IF ALL THINGS ARE BEING EQUAL AND WE SELECT THE COMPANY THAT'S BEST EQUIPPED TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE, THAT WE DO EXACTLY WHAT WAS INTENDED TO DO IN THIS PROCESS OF LOOKING FOR REVENUE THROUGH TICKETING, THAT WE APPORTION SOME OF THAT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S CONSISTENT REVENUE FOR OUR RESIDENT COMPANIES AND PERHAPS EVEN FOR OUR OTHER ARTS ORGANIZATIONS.

WHETHER IT'S $500,000, MORE OR LESS.

OKAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREWS-SULLIVAN.

>> SULLIVAN: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU, CARLOS AND PATRICIA.

I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS WHEN IT COMES TO A COUPLE OF CONCERNS THAT COUNCILMAN TREVINO HAS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE LOCAL PREFERENCE.

I KNOW WHEN WE SPOKE YESTERDAY WHEN THAT CAME UP YOU SAID IT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS A THIRD PARTY, NOT JUST THE TOBIN ITSELF.

IS THAT CORRECT?

>> CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION, PLEASE?

>> SULLIVAN: WHEN IT COMES TO THE LOCAL PREFERENCE POINTS, I KNOW WE WERE STATING -- WHEN I ASKED YESTERDAY IT WAS BECAUSE TOBIN IS USING A THIRD PARTY.

IS THAT --

>> NO, MA'AM.

LET ME PROVIDE A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON LOCAL PREFERENCE POINTS.

THEY CAN EARN TEN POINTS IF THEY ARE CONSIDERED LOCAL.

A LOCAL COMPANY IS ONE THAT HAS BEEN HEADQUARTERED IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO FOR A YEAR OR MORE.

OR YOU CAN GET FIVE POINTS IF YOU HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL BUSINESS PRESENCE HERE, WHICH IS DEFINED AS 100 PEOPLE OR MORE OR 20% OF THEIR LABOR.

SO THE REASON THAT TOBIN IS NOT BEING CONSIDERED FOR LOCAL IS BASED ON THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, A NONPROFIT IS NOT CONSIDERED LOCAL AND THEREFORE WOULD NOT RECEIVE THE TEN POINTS.

>> SULLIVAN: OKAY.

SO THE NEXT QUESTION THAT WE WERE NOW IN CONVERSATION ABOUT.

WHEN IT COMES TO THE REVENUE PIECE.

AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT -- IS THE COST TO THE CITY FROM TOBIN YEARLY OR IS THAT JUST A ONE-TIME COST TO THE CITY? HOW WOULD THAT WORK?

>> YES.

SO SLIDE 9?

>> SULLIVAN: YES.

>> CORRECT.

WITH REGARDS TO THE EQUIPMENT START-UP COST, THAT'S A ONE TIME THAT WOULD BE DEDUCTED FROM THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FUND.

THAT'S WHAT THEY PROPOSED.

THE $100,000 WOULD BE A ONE-TIME AND THAT WOULD BE A CITY EXPENSE.

AND THEN FOR THE TICKET STOCK, BASICALLY THAT WOULD BE AN ANNUAL COST OF ABOUT $16,000 TO US.

>> SULLIVAN: OKAY.

SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS $500,000 -- SO FOR THAT FIRST YEAR WE'RE GOING TO LOSE $269,000 OUT OF THAT?

>> CORRECT.

>> SULLIVAN: AND THEN EVERY YEAR AFTER THAT WE'LL GET THE ACTUAL $500,000.

>> YES.

UNTIL I BELIEVE YEARS THREE AND FOUR THERE WERE SMALL AMOUNTS.

FOR EXAMPLE, IN YEAR THREE, ABOUT $10,000 COST.

THAT WOULD BE DEDUCTED AGAIN.

AND THEN IN YEARS FOUR AND FIVE, AGAIN, ANOTHER THREE $25,000 AND IN THE YEAR FIVE, $100,000.

SO, AGAIN, FOR EQUIPMENT COSTS THE FIRST YEAR, ABOUT $269,000.

THAT WOULD BE NETTED OUT OF THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FUND.

YEAR TWO, NOTHING.

YEAR THREE, $10,000.

YEAR FOUR, $25,000.

AND IN YEAR FIVE, $100,000.

>> SULLIVAN: OKAY.

AND THEN LOOKING AT THE PRESENCE, WHEN IT COMES TO THE 24/7 TECHNICAL SUPPORT, TICKETMASTER, IS THAT ON-SITE SUPPORT THEY'LL BE GIVING US COMPARED TO THE THIRD-PARTY TECHNICAL SUPPORT THAT WE GET FROM TOBIN?

>> YES, THE TOBIN CENTER IS A TIERED CUSTOMER SUPPORT.

THEY WOULD HAVE SOMEBODY HERE LOCALLY THAT IS TRAINED IN THE

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PLATFORM BUT NOT NECESSARILY ABLE TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE PLATFORM.

THAT WOULD BE THROUGH AUDIENCE VIEW.

>> SULLIVAN: OKAY.

SO RIGHT NOW THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE REALLY WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT IS HOW THAT IS GOING TO TRULY IMPACT THE ARTS CULTURE IS WHAT THE BIGGEST DEBATE IS WHEN IT COMES TO LOOKING AT THAT $500,000.

BECAUSE THAT IS SUCH A FIGURE THAT CAN BE USED FOR MORE WHEN IT COMES TO THE TOBIN AND TRULY THE LIFE OF THE SYMPHONY IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO PRESERVE.

I WAS TELLING YESTERDAY HOW WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE SCHOOLS GOING TO SEE THE SYMPHONY ANYMORE.

THAT IT'S ALMOST SOMETHING THAT IS FORGOTTEN OF, AND WE TRULY NEED TO BRING THAT BACK INTO THE LIVES.

BECAUSE ART IS BEING TAKEN OUT OF THE SCHOOLS.

IT'S BEING TAKEN OUT OF THE NONPROFITS.

CHILDREN ARE NOT BEING EXPOSED TO THOSE THINGS ANYMORE AND WE DO NEED TO FIND EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE CAN TO PRESERVE OUR ARTS AND CULTURE.

SO I WOULD CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH MY COLLEAGUES TO FIND OUT EXACTLY HOW CAN WE MAKE THAT STRETCH AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE WE KNOW WE CONTINUOUSLY HAVE EVENTS THAT ARE GOING ON AT THE ALAMODOME AND AT THE CARVER.

WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE SURE THAT TICKETMASTER STAYS IN PLACE UNTIL WE HAVE A FULL CONCISE DECISION ON WHERE AND WHICH DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO.

I KNOW THAT I SPEAK A LOT ABOUT USING OUR LOCAL RESOURCES TO TRULY MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR CITY, AND WITH TOBIN BEING ONE OF THOSE RESOURCES I KNOW THAT THAT'S A BIG CONVERSATION THAT COUNCILMAN TREVINO IS SPEAKING OF HAVING.

AND SO AS WE PUSH FORWARD AND WE GET TO FINALIZE THE DECISIONS AS A COUNCIL, I THINK THAT WE JUST NEED TO TAKE EVERY PIECE OF THE PUZZLE AND PUT IT IN PLACE.

I KNOW TICKETMASTER DOES REACH MANY, MANY MORE.

BUT WE CAN DO IT AS A CITY IF WE JUST PUT THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE AND PUT ALL OF WHAT WE CAN DO BEHIND IT AS WELL.

SO AS WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS CONVERSATION, I KNOW THAT WE'LL BE BACK IN TOUCH WITH MAKING SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE BEST PLATFORM THAT IS NEEDED, NOT ONLY FOR THE FACILITIES AND THE UPKEEP OF THOSE FACILITIES BUT ALSO FOR THOSE THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING TO SAN ANTONIO TO VISIT THESE EVENTS AS WELL.

SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THIS CONVERSATION MORE.

IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE CAN GET TO FIND OUT HOW IT'S GOING TO BE MORE COST-EFFECTIVE, HOW IT'S GOING TO BE MORE INFLUENTIAL IN KEEPING THOSE BIGGER DOLLARS HERE WITHIN THE CITY TO BE USED ON THAT ARTS PLATFORM, I THINK THAT'S THE VISION WE NEED TO SEE.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN.

>> JUST A COMMENT ON THAT POINT ABOUT THE SYMPHONY.

NEXT FISCAL YEAR WE ARE WORKING WITH THE ARTS AND CULTURE DEPARTMENT TO HAVE SEVERAL SHOWS.

IT'S YOUTH PROGRAMMING WHERE THE SYMPHONY WILL PLAY FOR TITLE 1 STUDENTS AT THE LILA COCKRELL.

SO WEAVE COORDINATED THAT THROUGH THE ARTS AND CULTURE DEPARTMENT.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREWS-SULLIVAN.

COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY.

>> PERRY: THANK YOU, SIR.

JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

YOU KNOW, I WAS CAUGHT A LITTLE OFF GUARD ALSO ABOUT THIS HAPPENING TODAY AND THEN VOTING ON IT TOMORROW.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER CONTRACTS OUT THERE THAT IS FORCING US INTO THIS QUICK TURNAROUND COMING UP? WE HAVE TO HAVE COUNCIL ACTION DONE BEFORE THE CONTRACT RUNS OUT?

>> I CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AND MAKE SURE BUT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING.

>> PERRY: YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO GET A HEADS-UP ON THAT.

BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT LONG TIMELINE OF WHEN WE PUT CONTRACTS OUT AND THEN WE REVIEW IT AND WE SET IT UP FOR A DATE TO HAVE A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME TO REVIEW THESE.

AND THEN APPROVE THEM AND GET THEM OUT RECONTRACTED.

BUT I'M JUST WONDERING ARE THERE ANY OTHERSTH HANGING OUT THERE THAT WE'RE BUMPING UP AGAINST TIMELINES LIKE THIS THAT WE DON'T GET INTO A SITUATION LIKE THIS ONE HERE.

SO IF YOU COULD CHECK THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT, TROY.

THE OTHER THING, JUST LOOKING AT THE SCORING MATRIX.

EVEN IF WE DID CHANGE THE ORDINANCE FOR THE LOCAL PREFERENCE TO NONPROFITS, THAT'S TEN POINTS, IF I'M READING IT RIGHT.

THAT STILL WOULDN'T GET THEM UP TO THE LEVEL OF TICKETMASTER ON HOW THEY WERE SCORED, RIGHT?

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> PERRY: AND I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE -- WHY TICKETMASTER SCORED SO VERY WELL BECAUSE THEY ARE INTERNATIONALLY KNOWN AND THEY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE NATURALLY MIGRATE TO TICKETMASTER IN GOING AFTER TICKETS, WHATEVER THE VENUE IS.

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SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT BECAUSE, AS WAS STATED BEFORE -- AND I SAW THAT RIGHT AWAY ALSO -- IF WE'RE GETTING $2 MILLION FROM TICKETMASTER, WE CAN DIVVY UP THAT $2 MILLION HOWEVER WE WANT TO.

AND IF THE TOBIN IS HIGH ENOUGH ON THE PRIORITY LIST THAT THEY NEED A PORTION OF THAT MONEY, YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING FOR THE COUNCIL THAT WE COULD DO VERSUS GOING WITH A LESS-KNOWN TICKET COMPANY WITH NOT AS BIG A DISTRIBUTION AS TICKETMASTER, JUST TO FUND A PORTION OF THAT DIRECTLY TO THE TOBIN.

YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THAT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT DECISION AND DETERMINATION ABOUT THAT $2 MILLION WHERE THAT'S GOING TO GO TO IN THE FUTURE.

SO THEORETICALLY WE COULD CARVE OUT THAT PIECE OUT OF THAT ONE TO SUPPORT THE TOBIN, IF WE SO DESIRE.

SO, YEAH.

OTHER THAN THE BACKING THIS UP TO HAVING IT BRIEFED ONE DAY AND VOTING ON IT THE NEXT DAY, YOU KNOW, I STAND WITH THE PROCESS.

Y'ALL CAME IN AND TALKED TO ME ABOUT IT.

I'M GOOD WITH IT AND I'D BE READY TO VOTE FOR IT TOMORROW.

AGAIN, THE NUMBERS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES AND WE HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY IF THE TOBIN IS RANKED HIGH ENOUGH IN THE PRIORITY TO SUPPORT, WE'VE GOT THAT FLEXIBILITY TO DO THAT WITH IN THAT $2 MILLION.

SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, PATRICIA.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY.

COUNCIL MEMBER VIAGRAN.

>> VIAGRAN: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU, PATRICIA, FOR YOUR WORK AND YOUR DILIGENCE ON THIS.

AND I'M GLAD WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION AT A B SESSION AND NOT AT AN A SESSION AND WE DON'T HAVE SURPRISE THINGS COMING UP ON THE DAIS EITHER.

I THINK TO THE POINT OF WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY SAID, I MEAN, LOOKING AT THE LOCAL PREFERENCE AND THE ORDINANCE OF NONPROFITS -- BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD CHANGE THE GAME ON MANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE -- MANY OF THE PROCUREMENT PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE IF WE ALSO INCLUDE THE NONPROFIT REALM IN THAT.

AND THAT'S A LARGER CONVERSATION THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE.

A LARGER POLICY CONVERSATION.

I TOO AM VERY MUCH AT EASE WITH LOOKING AT TICKETMASTER.

THE ONLY REASON I WOULD POSSIBLY HAVE MORE CONVERSATION IS TO SEE THAT NUMBER THAT WE DID HAVE ON THERE ABOUT THE $550,000 OR $500,000 AND THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FUND.

THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD MAYBE SEE DIFFERENT MONEYS OR SOMETHING.

SO LET ME LOOK AT THAT SLIDE, NO. 8.

SO YOU'RE SAYING -- SO THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO ME.

SO THE ECONOMIC TERMS -- SLIDE 9, I'M SORRY.

SO IT'S $10,000 ONE-TIME ADDITIONAL CITY BENEFITS.

>> SO IT'S $10,000 ONE-TIME ALLOWANCE TO HELP US ENHANCE THE BOX OFFICE AT THE LILA COCKRELL.

>> VIAGRAN: SO TICKETMASTER IS MOVING THAT FORWARD.

>> CONTRIBUTIONS.

>> VIAGRAN: AND THE SAME THING WITH THE ALAMODOME?

>> CORRECT.

>> VIAGRAN: AND A ONE-TIME SIGN-ON BONUS AS WELL.

>> YES.

>> VIAGRAN: ALL RIGHT.

THOSE ARE VERY GOOD NUMBERS THERE.

AND TO THE POINT THAT WAS ALSO MADE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A CONVERSATION DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS OF OTHER ARTS AND CULTURAL AGENCIES THAT AREN'T GETTING FUNDED AND THAT WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT FUNDING.

SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MAYBE A CONVERSATION ON THAT PORTION OF WHERE THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT DOLLARS WOULD GO.

AND WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT A HOLISTIC AND COMPLETE VIEW OF THIS, WE ARE LOOKING ABOUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO SELL TICKETS.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE IT EASY AND CONVENIENT FOR THE INDIVIDUALS.

AND HOW ARE WE -- WE KNOW WITH VISIT SAN ANTONIO WE HAVE SOFT YEARS COMING UP.

SO IF WE CAN BRING PEOPLE, LIKE THAT DOCUMENT THAT YOU SHOWED ON METALLICA OR THE FOOTBALL GAME, THE SOCCER GAME, TO HAVE OVERNIGHT VISITORS, THAT WILL HELP US.

AND THE WAY WE GET THAT IS IF IT'S CONVENIENT THROUGH THE INTERNET AND TECHNOLOGY.

UNFORTUNATELY, WHENEVER I TRAVEL AND IF I WANT TO POP UP A SHOW SOMEWHERE ELSE -- LIKE JUST RECENTLY WHEN I WAS IN NEW YORK, I USED TICKETMASTER VERY EASILY BECAUSE IT'S VERY MOBILE-FRIENDLY.

UNFORTUNATELY, AND I SEE MICHAEL IN THE AUDIENCE TOO.

UNFORTUNATELY I DIDN'T HAVE THAT EASE WHEN I WAS TRYING TO BUY A TICKET TO GO SEE PATENT OSWALD AT THE TOBIN.

IT WAS NOT WITH EASE AND IT WAS

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QUICK TURNAROUND AND IT WASN'T WITH EASE SO I HAD TO GO TO THE BOX OFFICE AND SEE IF THERE WERE SOME THAT WERE STILL AVAILABLE.

BUT I REALLY WANTED TO GO SO IT WAS QUICK.

AND SO THAT WAS PART OF THE CONSIDERATION WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THIS.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE AND THINK THROUGH WITH THAT EASE FOR EVERYONE TAKING PART IN THAT.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND I WANT TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE COMPLETE STORY AS WELL AND TO SEE THE EASE OF WHAT SAN ANTONIANS AND ALSO PEOPLE COMING IN FROM FLORESVILLE, HELOTES, WHATEVER CAN HAVE THAT EASE.

AND I THINK WE CAN GET THERE BUT MAYBE JUST NOT AT THAT TIME.

BUT LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO WORK TO THAT POINT IN THE FUTURE.

SO, THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM: THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN.

COUNCILWOMAN ROCHA GARCIA.

>> GARCIA: THANK YOU, ERIK, FOR PLACING THIS ON THE AGENDA.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

WE HAD BEEN TRYING TO SCHEDULE A BRIEFING A FEW WEEKS BACK, SO THANK YOU, PATRICIA, FOR COMING AND TALKING WITH ME WITH CARLOS YESTERDAY.

AGAIN, I WANT TO REMIND MY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE A VERY BEAUTIFUL SHEET THAT BEN GORZELL'S TEAM PUT TOGETHER LETTING US KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME HIGH-PROFILE CONTRACTS COMING UP WITH DESIGN GUIDELINES ON THEM.

WHEN I GOT THAT SHEET, PROBABLY MY FIRST WEEK ON THE JOB , I CIRCLED ALL MY QUESTIONS AND I SENT THEM BACK TO BEN GORZELL'S OFFICE AND I MET WITH TROY AND BEN AND I ASKED SOME OF THE QUESTIONS COMING UP.

I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO STAFF SO WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS HERE.

AND THEN, THIRD, I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE PROCESS.

SO WE NOT ONLY HAD THE HIGH-PROFILE REPORT, BUT WE HAD AUGUST 30 AT AUDIT, YESTERDAY AT AUDIT, TODAY, AND TOMORROW.

I THINK SESSIONS LIKE THIS HELP US.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

I KNOW THAT TICKETMASTER HAS AN APP, BUT DOES THE TOBIN CENTER HAVE AN APP?

>> I BELIEVE IT'S THROUGH THEIR WEBSITE THAT PEOPLE GO AND PURCHASE THEIR TICKETS.

>>

>> GARCIA: OKAY.

I WAS TRYING TO DOWNLOAD IT FOR EASE OF USE BUT I COULDN'T FIND IT.

I WAS JUST CHECKING.

ALSO, HOW MANY ORGANIZATIONS HAVE EVENT AT THE TOBIN CENTER? OR MORE SPECIFICALLY WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OUR CURRENT ARTS PROGRAMS THAT WE FUND AT THE CITY USE THE TOBIN CENTER?

>> SO OF OUR 47 ARTS AGENCIES, EIGHT OF THEM ARE TOBIN RESIDENT COMPANIES.

OTHERS DO USE THE TOBIN CENTER BUT EIGHT OF THEM ARE TOBIN RESIDENT COMPANIES.

>> GARCIA: IS THERE A FEE FOR THE OTHERS?

>> YES.

THEY ALL PAY A FEE TO USE THE TOBIN, JUST LIKE THEY WOULD PAY FOR ANY VENUE THAT THEY NEED TO USE.

>> GARCIA: DO WE HAVE AN APPROXIMATE COMPARISON SO WHAT OTHER VENUES CHARGE VERSUS THE TOBIN?

>> I DON'T HAVE THAT COMPARISON.

>> GARCIA: THAT'S OKAY.

IF YOU COULD JUST FOLLOW UP.

I'M TRYING TO LEARN HERE AS I GO.

AND THEN DO WE KNOW HOW MANY TIMES THE TOBIN HAS HAD ISSUES, LIKE THEIR WEBSITE HAS BEEN DOWN OR ANYTHING THE LIKE?

>> I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

>> GARCIA: I'M SORRY.

AGAIN, I'M JUST TRYING TO LEARN.

I ALSO WANT TO MAKE A POINT TO MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES THAT IT'S DISAPPOINTING THAT IT NOW MATTERS WHO THE CLEAR WINNER WAS UNTIL WE GOT NAMES NAMED.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD CHANGE OUR MINDS WHEN THERE WAS A PROCESS, ONCE WE LEARNED WHO ACTUALLY GOT AWARDED.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT A POINT THAT I'M KIND OF DISAPPOINTED THAT THAT WOULD HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT.

I THINK THAT TICKETMASTER BRINGS A LEVEL OF BRAND EQUITY THAT MIGHT YIELD A LARGER RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR ALL OF OUR CONCERTS OR ALL OF OUR SERVICES, IF YOU WILL.

AND THAT'S WHY I AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE ANYWHERE THEY JUST THINK TO GO TO TICKETMASTER.COM BECAUSE THEY'RE ASSUMING -- THAT LEVEL OF BRAND EQUITY HAS TO YIELD SOME ADDITIONAL VALUE.

SO IF WE WILL BE MOVING IT FORWARD, WHICH I DON'T ADVOCATE FOR AN EXTENSION, I THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER BRAND EQUITY AS PART OF OUR COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS THAT WE DO.

AND IN CRUNCHING MY NUMBERS, I WAS LOOKING AT -- AND I WAS WRONG, I GUESS, A LITTLE BIT.

SO I KNOW I WAS ADDING MY NUMBERS AND IT WAS LOOKING AT 2.9 VERSUS 2.5.

AND SO WITH THE TOBIN INVESTMENT WE WOULD GET $1.75 MILLION.

AND SO I'LL GET SOME EXPLANATION ON THE MATH LATER, SO I'LL GET WITH YOU ALL LATER.

BUT MY OTHER QUESTION WAS SIMILAR TO COUNCILMAN PERRY'S.

IF WE WERE AWARDED LOCAL PREFERENCE, TEN POINTS, THEY WOULD STILL BE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND.

SO, AGAIN, THAT WAS KIND OF MY CAUTIONARY TALE THAT WHY DOES IT MATTER NOW WHEN WE SEE WHO IT IS

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WHEN WE COULD HAVE BROUGHT THESE UP A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.

I DO LIKE THAT WE HAVE $50,000 PER YEAR CITYWIDE, BECAUSE IT CAN BRING ART SPECIFICALLY TO OTHER DISTRICTS BEYOND THE TOBIN CENTER, AFFORDABLE PROGRAMS SPECIFICALLY.

AND THIS COULD HELP WITH, FOR INSTANCE, AT THE MISSION OR HAVE SOMEWHERE ELSE.

THAT'S WHAT EXCITED ME ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL.

I ALSO LIKE THE DATA COLLECTION ASPECT TO SEE WHERE FOLKS ARE COMING FROM.

WE CAN'T JUST KEEP CATERING TO THE SAME TYPE OF PATRON.

P&C ARENA HAS DONE A GREAT JOB WORKING WITH TICKETMASTER, AND RECENTLY THE KANSAS CITY THEATER LEAGUE ALSO USES DEMOGRAPHIC AND BEHAVIORAL PATRON DATA.

THIS HELPS BUILD OUR CASE FOR EQUITY.

AND SO EQUITY FOR THE ARTS.

AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER THAT IF WE HAVE ALL OF THIS DATA THAT TICKETMASTER ALREADY PROVIDES, WE SHOULD CONSIDER THAT AS AN ADDED, AGAIN, BENEFIT AND A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS.

AND THEN ALSO I WANT TO ECHO COUNCILMAN -- I THINK IT WAS THE MAYOR WHO ASKED ABOUT EARMARKING FUNDS.

I'M SURE THAT MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMAN PELAEZ, WOULD BE HAPPY TO EARMARK FUNDS LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, BRIDGES.

YEAH, MUSICAL BRIDGES.

BEYOND JUST THE PROGRAMS THAT EXIST AT THE TOBIN.

IF WE DO A STUDY CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME HOW MANY RESIDENTS FROM DISTRICT 4 VISIT THE TOBIN? DO WE HAVE A BREAKDOWN?

>> SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

AS PART OF OUR FY20 BUDGET, THE DEPARTMENT OF ARTS AND CULTURE IS IMPLEMENTING A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR PERFORMING ARTS AND WE WILL BE WORKING WITH ALL THE PERFORMING ARTS VENUES, THE TOBIN, THE LILA COCKRELL, THE MAJESTIC THEATER AND OTHERS ALL AROUND TOWN, AS WELL AS PERFORMING ARTS GROUPS TO ANALYZE ALL OF THAT DATA AND PUT TOGETHER A PLAN.

SO WE WILL HAVE THAT.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT YET.

>> GARCIA: OKAY.

BECAUSE THE NEXT QUESTION IS JUST GENERAL DEMOGRAPHICS.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHAT THE DEMOGRAPHICS ARE FOR THE TOBIN CENTER FOR ANYTHING FROM SALARY TO ETHNICITY TO, YES, GENDER.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER AS WELL.

BUT THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS ON CYBERSECURITY, SPECIFICALLY RELIABILITY.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THE TOBIN -- I'M GOING TO ASSUME, BUT MAYBE WE COULD ASK TICKETMASTER, I'M SURE THEY HAVE CYBERSECURITY INSURANCE.

SO I JUST WANT TO SEE THE COMPARABLE FOR OUR LOCAL.

>> OKAY.

WE DEFINITELY HAVE SOME REPRESENTATIVES FROM TICKETMASTER HERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE THE INFORMATION BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY TRY TO GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.

>> GARCIA: GREAT.

THANK YOU.

ALSO I JUST WANTED TO SEE HOW MUCH THE PROGRAMMING IS DEDICATED TO CULTURAL INITIATIVES AT THE TOBIN.

SO THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR ME ALSO TO CONSIDER.

I ALSO WANT TO REFERENCE THAT I'VE PROPOSED THAT SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS CONSIDER PRESENTING AT THE CHIEFS OF STAFF MEETING THAT HAPPEN WEEKLY.

SO IF YOU GUYS CAN'T GET TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS -- I HAVE SPOKEN TO JIM GREENWOOD AND I HAVE BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR THIS.

IF WE'RE NOT AVAILABLE FOR BRIEFINGS, I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO VISIT WITH THEM.

YOU BASICALLY CAN HAVE ACCESS TO EVERYBODY THROUGH THE CHIEFS OF STAFF MEETING.

YOU WOULDN'T BREAK ANY QUORUM RULES, BY THE WAY, BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST GETTING SOME INFORMATION AND THEY'RE PASSING IT ON TO US.

SO THANK YOU, PATRICIA.

ALTHOUGH I KNOW THAT MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMAN TREVINO, HAS MADE A GREAT CASE FOR LOCAL PREFERENCE I DO THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY IF WE CONSIDER ALL OF THE FACTS, I STILL WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF YOUR PROPOSAL TO MOVE FORWARD TOMORROW.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA.

COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALES.

>> GONZALES: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AND COUNCILWOMAN ROCHA IS GOING TO EMBARRASS US ALL AND MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL STUDYING BEFORE WE COME TO CLASS EVERY THURSDAY.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR COMMENTS.

I THOUGHT THEY WERE VERY RELEVANT, AND SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE FEEDBACK ON SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT SHE ANSWERED AND HOPE THAT THOSE WILL BE TIMELY IN A FEW WEEKS OR SO.

WE COULD GET THE RESPONSES TO THOSE QUESTIONS.

I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE CONTRACT.

DOES IT HAVE TO BE EXCLUSIVE? UNLESS SOMEBODY ALREADY ANSWERED THIS QUESTION -- I HAD TO STEP OUT FOR A MINUTE IN THE OPENING PART OF THE PRESENTATION.

BUT COULD YOU HAVE MULTIPLE SOURCES SELLING THE SAME TICKETS?

>> THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN.

FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE WERE EVALUATING, KNOWING THAT ONE OF THE RESPONDENTS WAS NOT A TICKETMASTER.

IT'S NOT THAT IT CAN'T BE DONE BUT THE TRANSFER OF INFORMATION, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE HAD AN AUDIENCE VIEW PLATFORM AND OUR

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TWO MAJOR TENANTS, THE VALERO ALAMO BOWL AND UTSA HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH TICKETMASTER, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE -- WHEN DO YOU TRANSFER ALL OF THE DATA.

THERE'S PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE BUYING UP TO THE LAST MINUTE.

DO WE HAVE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE, YOU KNOW, AN EASY PROCESS WHEN PEOPLE COME IN THROUGH THE DOOR, HAVE THEIR TICKET TO BE SCANNED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT ANY ISSUES WITH THAT.

>> GONZALES: SO, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU BUY TICKETS -- I HAVEN'T BOUGHT TICKETS OFFLINE IN A WHILE, BUT THERE WAS A TIME WHEN YOU WOULD BUY TICKETS FROM SOME OTHER SOURCE.

I WANT TO SAY THIS IS EVEN BEFORE THE INTERNET.

BUT THERE WAS ALWAYS A FRIEND WHO HAD THE TICKETS.

THERE MUST STILL BE A SYSTEM WHERE YOU CAN BUY TICKETS FROM ANOTHER SOURCE.

ARE PEOPLE STILL BUYING TICKETS FROM TICKETMASTER AND PRICING THEM THREE TIMES OVER?

>> SO, AT THE ALAMODOME, ABOUT 70% OF THE PEOPLE THAT ATTEND EVENTS AT THE ALAMODOME BUY THEIR TICKETS AT THE BOX OFFICE.

AND BY DOING SO THEY DO NOT PAY ANY CUSTOMER PROCESSING FEES.

RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY UNDER THIS CONTRACT, THEY DON'T PAY ANY TICKETMASTER FEES.

SO THEY GO UP TO THE BOX OFFICE, THE MAJORITY OF THEM.

IN MANY OTHER VENUES PEOPLE DO THAT AS WELL.

BUT THERE ARE RESALE PLATFORMS THAT PEOPLE CAN SELL THEIR TICKETS ON.

>> GONZALES: BUT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH AUDIO].

OKAY.

I THINK I UNDERSTAND HOW MAYBE THAT'S DONE.

I SORT OF RECALL DURING THE SPURS' GAMES PEOPLE WOULD SELL THEM.

>> COUNCILWOMAN --

>> GONZALES: I'M AFRAID I'M DATING MYSELF.

THAT'S WHY I'M NOT ANSWERING THE QUESTION RIGHT.

>> WE QUIZZED ALL THREE OF THE RESPONDENTS ABOUT THE INNER OPERABILITY OF THE SYSTEM.

THERE'S SOME INFORMATION THAT'S GOT TO BE SHARED.

I'M NOT SURE HOW WE WOULD DO THAT IN OUR BOX OFFICES TO HAVE THAT KIND OF FACILITIES WHERE DIFFERENT PEOPLE CAN SELL.

THERE'S ALSO A REVENUE CONTRACT.

SO THE REVENUE CONTRACT BECOMES LESS ATTRACTIVE FOR SOMETHING IF IT'S NOT EXCLUSIVE.

THAT'S PART OF WHAT THIS IS TO GIVE IT TO ONE COMPANY SO THEY CAN INVEST AND WE CAN GET A HIGHER RATE OF RETURN.

BUT I THINK, TO BE FAIR, IT COULD BE DONE.

YOU JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOU WOULD DO THAT AND WORK WITH THE ENTITIES THAT DO HAVE CONTRACTS WITH A PARTICULAR ENTITY, LIKE A TICKETMASTER OR SOMEBODY ELSE OR EVENT BRITE OR ANYONE ELSE.

>> GONZALES: YOU MENTIONED 70% ARE DONE ON SITE.

THAT'S A LOT OF TICKETS DONE ON SITE.

SO OF ALL THE TICKETS -- THESE ARE ONLY FOR THESE TWO -- FOR CONVENTION AND SPORTS.

BUT YOU MENTIONED CARVER AND A COUPLE OTHER FACILITIES AS WELL, RIGHT? SO THAT'S -- ARE ALSO THOSE TICKETS SOLD AT 70% AT THE BOX OFFICE?

>> I DON'T HAVE THE PERCENTAGES FOR THE LILA COCKRELL AND THE CARVER.

THE 70% IS RELATED TO ALAMODOME ATTENDEES.

>> GONZALES: OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, I REALLY JUST WANTED TO ASK SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS ABOUT PERHAPS IF THERE WAS THE POTENTIAL TO SHARE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THE TOBIN'S TICKET IS A THIRD PARTY, SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY -- THEY WOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO SELL AT THE CARVER AND AT THE ALAMODOME OR ANYTHING ELSE.

SO IT'S NOT JUST THE TOBIN.

AND WOULD THEY HAVE PRIORITY FOR THEIR OWN VENUE IN TERMS OF MARKETING?

>> I'M NOT SURE IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.

>> GONZALES: SO THE TOBIN'S PROCESSING IS A THIRD-PARTY PROCESSING, SO REALLY NOT RELATED TO THE TOBIN AT ALL.

SO THEY DON'T HAVE PRIORITY FOR THEIR OWN EVENTS.

>> THIS WOULD OPERATE THE SAME WAY THAT THE CURRENT CONTRACT OPERATES.

WE WOULD BE ENGAGING, YOUING, Y, A TICKETING SYSTEM THAT WE WOULD HAVE AT OUR FACILITIES TO SELL TICKETS, IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

>> GONZALES: NO, I GUESS I WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, LOOKING.

BECAUSE I GUESS IT HAD BEEN A WHILE SINCE I BOUGHT A TICKET.

AND SO YOU COULD GO TO THE TOBIN SITE AND BUY A TICKET FROM THERE.

IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE.

BUT OTHERWISE I HAVE GONE SPECIFICALLY TO BUY A TICKET FOR AN EVENT.

I HAVEN'T GONE TO TICKETMASTER TO SEE WHAT EVENTS ARE AVAILABLE.

SO I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IF YOU KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO BE IN SAN ANTONIO AND YOU JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT WAS AVAILABLE, WOULD

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YOU GO TO, LIKE --

>> YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE ALAMODOME WEBSITE OR THE LILA COCKRELL WEBSITE OR THE CARVER WEBSITE TO BUY A TICKET FOR AN EVENT AT THE FACILITY.

>> GONZALES: OKAY.

>> THROUGH THAT THIRD PARTY.

>> GONZALES: BUT IF TICKETMASTER IS OUR VENDOR, YOU GO TO TICKETMASTER AND SEE ALL THE EVENTS?

>> UH-HUH.

>> GONZALES: SO THIS OTHER PROCESSING CENTER THAT'S AT THE TOBIN DOESN'T HAVE ONLY TOBIN EVENTS.

AND THEN YOU CAN BUY THINGS, TICKETS FROM ANOTHER PLACE.

I GUESS BECAUSE IT'S MARKETING, YOU GO TO A WEBSITE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE JUST TOBIN AND THEN AN ABILITY TO BUY TICKETS SOMEWHERE ELSE.

CLEARLY I'M NOT COMMUNICATING MY QUESTION VERY WELL.

>> NO, I UNDERSTAND.

YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, THE TOBY TICKETING SYSTEM, ONCE YOU COULD GO COULD YOU GO INTO THE TOBIN WEBSITE AND WOUL IT SHOW ALL OF THE ALAMODOME EVENTS?

>> GONZALES: RIGHT.

>> THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE IN THE PROCESS.

IT COULD CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, HAPPEN.

>> GONZALES: OKAY.

OKAY.

WELL, I JUST -- OF COURSE WE WANT TO GET AS MUCH EXPOSURE AS POSSIBLE FOR ALL OF OUR EVENTS AND FOR EVERY ACTIVITY IN TOWN.

SO THAT'S WHY IF A PERSON WAS VISITING AND THEY WANTED TO SEE WHAT SHOWS WERE AVAILABLE, FOR EXAMPLE, OR WHAT ENTERTAINMENT.

>> COUNCILWOMAN, I THINK IN THE PRESENTATION I THINK THEY DID SAY THAT YOU COULD GO -- IF YOU WENT TO THE TOBIN CENTER YOU WOULD SEE EVENTS AT THE TOBIN CENTER, CERTAINLY, BUT ALSO THE ALAMODOME AND LILA.

I BELIEVE WHETHER THAT WAS PRESENTED OR WE NEGOTIATED THAT, WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE AS MUCH COVERAGE.

TO BE FAIR, TOBIN CENTER WOULD WANT TO DO THAT TOO BECAUSE THEY WOULD WANT TO SELL TICKETS.

GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE DOME DOESN'T COMPETE WITH THE TOBIN CENTER.

LILA DOESN'T COMPETE.

TOBIN CENTER, JUST BECAUSE OF THE CAPACITY OF EACH OF THOSE VENUES.

SO I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AN ISSUE.

BUT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

FOLKS ARE COMFORTABLE GOING TO THE TICKETMASTER WEBSITE TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN MULTIPLE CITIES.

AND AS PATRICIA INDICATED ON THAT SLIDE SHOWING METALLICA AND THE SOCCER MATCH, NUMBER ONE, THEY WERE BROUGHT TO US, TO THE CITY, BY AFFILIATES OF TICKETMASTER, BOTH OF THEM.

ONE OWNS TICKETMASTER, THE OTHER IS AN AFFILIATE.

AND MANY OF THOSE WERE OUTSIDE OF SAN ANTONIO.

SO YOU WOULD NOT KNOW, NECESSARILY, TO GO TO THE TOBIN CENTER OR TO THE ALAMODOME TO LOOK FOR THAT.

>> GONZALES: OKAY.

OKAY.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALES.

COUNCILMAN COURAGE.

>> COURAGE: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THE SLIDE ON PAGE .

AT THE TOP WE SAY REVENUE TO THE CITY AND WE'RE SAYING $2 MILLION PER YEAR, $1.5 MILLION PER YEAR BETWEEN THE TWO PREDOMINANT VENDORS.

BUT NONE OF THAT IS GUARANTEED.

THAT IS A PROJECTION, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> COURAGE: OKAY.

AND SO, FOR EXAMPLE, $50,000 THAT WE'RE ASKING -- OR TICKETMASTER IS WILLING TO PROVIDE PER YEAR FOR ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT, IS THAT A PROJECTION? IS THAT PENDING OR IS THAT A GUARANTEE?

>> THE ONLY NUMBERS THAT ARE PROJECTIONS, AND BASED ON HISTORICAL FIGURES, IS THE TOP ONE, THE REVENUE TO THE CITY.

THE OTHERS ARE AT GUARANTEED AMOUNTS.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE TICKETMASTER COLUMN, THE $250,000 ONE-TIME IS GUARANTEED, AS WELL AS THE MARKETING AND TECHNOLOGY FUND CONTRIBUTION OF $50,000, AS WELL AS THE ADDITIONAL BENEFITS, THE $10,000 FOR THE LILA, THE $30,000 FOR THE ALAMODOME REMOTE BOX OFFICES, AS WELL AS THE $50,000 PER YEAR FOR THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FUND.

>> COURAGE: SO HEAVEN FORBID WE HAVE AN OFF YEAR AND THEY ONLY BRING IN $1.8 MILLION.

THOSE OTHER GUARANTEES, THE 50, THE 50 AND THE OTHERS IN THE FIRST YEAR, WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO GET THOSE FROM TICKETMASTER.

>> YES.

>> COURAGE: WITH TOBIN, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE GET $1.8 MILLION? ARE THEY GOING TO CLAIM THEIR $500,000 OFF THE TOP AND WE MIGHT GET 1.3? OR IS THERE A FORMULA TO DETERMINE WHAT WE WOULD GET AND WHAT THEY WOULD KEEP FOR THE TOBIN CENTER?

>> SO FOR THE TOBIN PROPOSAL, THEY SAID THAT WE WOULD GET 55% OF THE CUSTOMER FEE.

THERE'S TWO FEES UNDER THE CUSTOMER PROCESSING, THERE'S A CUSTOMER FEE AND A PROCESSING FEE.

THE CITY WOULD GET 55% OF THAT CUSTOMER FEE.

THE TOBIN WOULD GET 45% OF THAT CUSTOMER FEE AND ALL OF THE

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PROCESSING FEE.

>> COURAGE: HOW DO YOU DETERMINE THEY GET $500,000 PER YEAR TO THE TOBIN? WAS IT JUST 25% OF THE $2 MILLION?

>> SO BASICALLY IT'S A PROJECTION, AGAIN, WE'RE PROJECTING WHAT THAT CONVENIENCE FEE IS GOING TO BE, WHAT THAT PROCESSING FEE IS GOING TO BE AND THEN THEY'RE DEDUCTING THE EQUIPMENT PURCHASES AND THE SOFTWARE COSTS.

AND THEN COMING UP WITH A NUMBER.

AND THAT NUMBER THEY'RE SAYING WE'RE SPLIT 50/50, THE OPERATIONS OF THE TOBIN CENTER AND TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AT THE TOBIN CENTER.

THE OTHER 50% FOR THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT TO ASSIST THE RESIDENT COMPANIES.

>> COURAGE: WELL, I GUESS I'M LOOKING BEYOND THE FIRST YEAR BECAUSE THOSE FEES ARE A ONE-TIME FEE FOR TOBIN, THE FIRST YEAR.

THE SECOND YEAR THERE AREN'T THOSE ADDITIONAL FEES TO THEM.

ON THE OTHER HAND, WITH TICKETMASTER, WE'RE GUARANTEED THOSE EXTRA MONEYS EVERY YEAR.

BUT --

>> IF I COULD JUMP IN.

>> COURAGE: SURE.

>> I BELIEVE THAT THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FUND WAS A FLAT $500,000.

>> COURAGE: SO WE'RE PRETTY MUCH GUARANTEED THAT?

>> I BELIEVE IT WAS, YES, SIR.

THE OTHER FUNDS WERE BASED ON PROJECTIONS, I BELIEVE AND PERCENTAGE.

ALL OF IT WAS A PERCENTAGE OF THE REVENUE THAT WE'RE DOING.

IF WE HAD NO ACTIVITIES THEN THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO IT.

>> COURAGE: IF IT'S $1.8 MILLION, THEY MAY NOT GET $500,000, THEY MAY GET $400,000 OR SOMETHING.

AND WE MIGHT GET $1.3 MILLION.

OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO KIND OF FIGURE THAT OUT.

BECAUSE I REALIZE NONE OF THIS IS GUARANTEED.

AND, OF COURSE, IT COULD BE HIGHER.

WE COULD HAVE AN EXTREMELY GOOD YEAR ONE YEAR OR TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS DOWN THE LINE.

AND SO THESE NUMBERS COULD ACTUALLY BE HIGHER THAN WHAT WE HAVE HERE.

BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT WE THINK MIGHT BE A REASONABLE AVERAGE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, RIGHT?

>> AGAIN, BASED ON HISTORICAL FIGURES, MY GOAL IS TO INCREASE OUR EVENTS AND THE QUALITY OF EVENTS SO THAT ULTIMATELY THAT REVENUE GOES UP AGAIN.

BUT IT DEPENDS, AGAIN, ON THE ABILITY OF OUR BUSINESS PARTNER TO PERFORM AND BEING THAT TICKETMASTER IS A MARKET LEADER, WE'RE HOPING WITH THAT COMBINATION WE WILL BE ABLE TO INCREASE OUR REVENUE.

>> COURAGE: NOW, AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE $500,000 PER YEAR, WE HAVE IT LISTED AS ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FUND.

WHAT IS THE WORDING OF HOW THAT MONEY GOES TO THE TOBIN CENTER AND WHAT IS IT USED FOR? WHAT'S THE ACTUAL WORDING IN THAT?

>> SO, AGAIN, THEY RECOMMENDED THAT UP TO $500,000 WOULD GO TO AN ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT.

THE BALANCE OF THAT 50% WOULD GO TO THE RESIDENT COMPANIES.

AND THE OTHER 50% WOULD GO TOWARDS THE OPERATIONS AND IMPROVEMENTS MADE AT THE TOBIN CENTER.

>> COURAGE: SO THEN THEORETICALLY IF IT'S $500,000, ABOUT $250,000 WOULD HELP SUPPORT THE EIGHT DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL VENUES THAT OPERATE OUT OF THERE, RIGHT?

>> CORRECT.

>> COURAGE: THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT THEY SAID.

SO WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HALF OF THAT $250,000 BEING SPLIT BETWEEN SEVEN OR EIGHT RESIDENT GROUPS OUT OF THE TOBIN CENTER EVERY YEAR.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THEY'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE FOR OPERA, HOW MUCH THEY'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE FOR ANYBODY ELSE.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE UP TO THEM TO DECIDE.

>> THAT PROCESS WAS NOT IDENTIFIED.

>> COURAGE: OKAY.

BUT THE $2 MILLION THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IF WE GET THAT FROM TICKETMASTER, HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE ALLOCATED? I'VE HEARD TALK ABOUT, WELL, MAYBE WE COULD USE SOME OF IT FOR THIS AND THAT.

WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS FOR USING THAT $2 MILLION AS INCOME FROM THIS CONTRACT?

>> SO HISTORICALLY ALL OF THE REVENUE THAT WE GENERATE GOES TO OFFSET OUR OPERATIONS AT OUR FACILITIES.

>> COURAGE: AND WHICH FACILITIES BENEFIT FROM THAT $2 MILLION, THEORETICALLY?

>> IT IS THE ALAMODOME.

SO THE CONVENTION CENTER AND THE ALAMODOME ARE UNDER THE COMMUNITY AND VISITORS FACILITIES FUND.

THE CARVER COMMUNITY CULTURAL CENTER IS NOT.

IT IS FUNDED PRIMARILY BY THE GENERAL FUND.

BUT THEY DO RECEIVE HOT DOLLARS THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF ARTS AND CULTURE.

>> COURAGE: BUT THIS MONEY WOULDN'T BE HOT, IT WOULD BE WHAT, GENERAL FUND?

>> THIS MONEY WOULD BASICALLY GO TOWARDS -- WOULD BE -- YES.

IT WOULD GO INTO THE COMMUNITY AND VISITORS FACILITIES FUND, WHICH THE ALAMODOME AND THE CONVENTION CENTER ARE A PART OF.

>> WALSH: BUT IT'S NOT CHARACTERIZED AS HOT FUNDS, COUNCILMAN.

JUST TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

>> COURAGE: OKAY.

WHAT OF OUR FACILITIES WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WOULD GET A FINANCIAL BENEFIT, OR MAY GET A

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FINANCIAL BENEFIT FROM THAT? WHICH ONE OF OUR FACILITIES? JUST THE CONVENTION CENTER? JUST THE ALAMODOME?

>> BOTH THE ALAMODOME AND THE CONVENTION CENTER.

>> COURAGE: AND THE CONVENTION CENTER INCLUDES LILA COCKRELL THEATER?

>> YES, IT DOES.

>> COURAGE: WHAT ABOUT THE CARVER? THEY WOULDN'T GET ANYTHING OUT OF THIS?

>> THEY ARE NOT PART OF THE COMMUNITY IN THIS FUND.

THE ONLY THREE FACILITIES THAT ARE PART OF THAT, AGAIN, ARE THE ALAMODOME, THE CONVENTION CENTER, AND THE LILA COCKRELL.

>> WALSH: COUNCILMAN, FACILITY ISSUES FOR THE CARVER, WE WOULD TAKE ON THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND.

>> COURAGE: OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT HELPS ME UNDERSTAND IT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

AND I RECOGNIZE THE VALUE --

>> COUNCILMAN, CAN I ADD ONE COMPONENT ON THAT? WE TALK ABOUT THE -- WE'RE PRIMARILY TALKING ABOUT THE ALAMODOME AND THE CONVENTION CENTER.

I THINK WE MENTIONED AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE CAPITAL BUDGET PROCESS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON THE PRO FORMA AND FINANCING PLAN.

BOTH OF THOSE BUILDINGS HAVE SGNIFICANT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT REQUIREMENTS, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO BE VISITING WITH YOU ABOUT.

PATRICIA MENTIONED REVENUES FROM THOSE BUILDINGS GO INTO THAT FUND, THEY GO INTO THAT PRO FORMA.

WE USE THEM TO SUPPORT ACTIVITIES AT THE BUILDING AND MAINTENANCE AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AT THE BUILDINGS.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON AND BRINGING YOU A PLAN NEXT SPRING TO ADDRESS AS MANY OF THOSE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AS WE CAN.

>> COURAGE: OKAY.

SO IF WE WENT WITH THE TOBIN ISSUE WE WOULD BE ABOUT $2.5 MILLION UNDERFUNDED, ACCORDING TO THESE NUMBERS TOWARD OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER AND THE ALAMODOME, BECAUSE WE WOULD ONLY GET $1.5 MILLION INSTEAD OF $2 MILLION A YEAR, FOR FIVE YEARS.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> COURAGE: AND IF WE EXTEND IT OVER TEN YEARS, WE WOULD BE MISSING OUT ON $5 MILLION.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> COURAGE: OKAY.

JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE OF THAT.

I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR THE ARTS.

I GO.

I SUPPORT.

I SEND MY OWN PERSONAL MONEY THERE AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL DO THAT.

BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE BIGGEST RETURN TO THE CITY AND I REALIZE THAT TICKETMASTER, AS MUCH AS I HAVE A PROBLEM PAYING THOSE EXTRA FEES LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE MAY, IS GOING TO BE A BETTER MARKETING PARTNER FOR WHAT WE HAVE THERE AND WHAT WE WANT TO HAVE THERE.

TOBY IS GOING TO ADVERTISE IN THE EXPRESS NEWS AND THE CURRENT AND OTHER LOCAL MEDIA, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO HELP US DRAW MORE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE COMING TO VISIT SAN ANTONIO OR WHO MAY WANT TO VISIT SAN ANTONIO BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY SEE IS GOING TO BE PLAYING HERE.

SO I WOULD BE WILLING TO LISTEN TO ADDITIONAL INFORMATION SHOULD THE COUNCIL DECIDE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO ACT ON THIS YET AND PUT IT OFF.

BUT I'M MORE INCLINED TO JUST SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE STAFF IS MAKING RIGHT NOW ON GOING WITH THE VENUE FROM THE NUMBER ONE OPERATOR.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN COURAGE.

COUNCILMAN PELAEZ.

>> PELAEZ: THANK YOU.

CARLOS, I'M OKAY WITH TICKETMASTER.

AND I THINK Y'ALL DID A THOROUGH JOB IN VETTING THEM.

HOWEVER, AND ERIK, I THINK THIS IS FOR BOTH OF YOU, I THINK THIS IS WHAT COUNCILMAN TREVINO, IN HIS QUICK LITTLE STORY -- THAT WAS THE LONGEST QUICK LITTLE STORY.

[LAUGHTER] YOU KNOW, HIGHLIGHTED THE PART THAT REALLY JUMPS OUT AT ME IS THERE IS, YOU KNOW, AN OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR US TO HAVE LONGER CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT AND TO REALLY DIVE DOWN DEEP INTO THESE THINGS.

SO, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I'LL REITERATE MY POINT AND THAT IS THESE BLACK OUT PERIODS WITH UNCOMFORTABLY TIGHT AND THE TIME BETWEEN WHEN WE HEAR ABOUT IT AND WHEN WE VOTE ON IT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IS UNCOMFORTABLY TIGHT.

AND I JUST WISH IT WAS LESS UNCOMFORTABLY TIGHT.

I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY CONVERSATION ANY TIME, NO MATTER HOW GRANULAR IT IS AND HOW IN THE WEEDS WE HAVE TO GET ABOUT IT.

BUT I'D LOVE TO DO THAT IN MY OFFICE WITH YOU GUYS OR EVEN UP HERE.

IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME.

BUT SO AS LONG AS WE HAVE IT AND WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME.

THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENTS.

THANKS AGAIN FOR THE HARD WORK, GUYS.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER PELAEZ.

COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO.

>> TREVINO: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I'VE GOT A LITTLE STORY, MANNY.

I'M KIDDING.

[LAUGHTER] NO, ACTUALLY, AGAIN, JUST THANK YOU ALL.

I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT I'M ASKING FOR HERE AND WHAT I WANTED TO GIVE SOME HISTORY ABOUT HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT.

BUT I THINK I HEARD THAT THERE'S A WILLINGNESS FOR STAFF TO EARMARK SOME OF THESE FUNDS TOWARDS ARTS.

I DIDN'T HEAR THAT BEFORE SO I JUST WANT TO ASK THAT AGAIN.

I THINK THAT WAS ASKED EARLIER

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AND THE ANSWER SEEMED TO BE YES, I WANT TO GET IT ON THE RECORD.

ARE WE WILLING TO EARMARK SOME OF THESE FUNDS TOWARDS THE ARTS?

>> COUNCILMAN, AS I INDICATED TO THE MAYOR, IT'S THE COUNCIL'S PREROGATIVE TO DIRECT THE CITY ON HOW TO DO THAT AND WHAT TO DO WITH THE RESOURCES.

>> TREVINO: SO IF I ASKED FOR A RECOMMENDATION --

>> WE COULD COME FORWARD WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU.

AS COUNCILMAN COURAGE SAID, THESE ARE PROJECTIONS.

PERHAPS IF YOU WOULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, MAYBE WE COULD TALK ABOUT A PERCENTAGE.

THEY GOT TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT.

AS THINGS GO UP AND DOWN, THERE'S LESS OF A REDUCTION THAT THE CITY WILL USE IT FOR ITS FACILITIES.

TO REITERATE WHAT BEN HAS INDICATED.

WE HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF NEEDS AT BOTH FACILITIES.

SO OUR ROLE IS TO TRY TO GENERATE AS MUCH REVENUE AS WE CAN.

>> SURE.

I WOULD LIKE TO WORK ON THAT.

>> SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

FOR REASONS I DON'T WANT TO ARTICULATE IN PUBLIC, IF THAT'S ONE OF THE EARMARK, IT WILL BE A GENERICER MARK FOR THE ARTS, AND NOT --

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT, ABSOLUTELY.

BUT AGAIN, SO LET'S JUST -- I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU SOME MORE AFTER THIS B SESSION, AND WORK WITH YOU ON WHAT WE CAN WORK OUT TOWARDS THAT.

BUT AGAIN, AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS DESERVES A LARGER CONVERSATION, WHY WE'RE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION.

THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO.

>> ROCHA GARCIA: I THINK COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL TRIED TO TEXT COUNCILWOMAN PELAEZ.

ASKING IF CONSIDERATION TO LOOK AT MANDATORY SERVICE FEE VERSUS OPTIONAL FEE, AND FOR INFORMATION ON HOW MUCH $1 WOULD RAISE IN EACH OF THOSE CASES.

>> WE CAN GET YOU THAT INFORMATION ABOUT HOW MUCH THE $1 WOULD RAISE.

I WOULD REMIND COUNCIL --

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: I THINK OUR CITY ATTORNEY WANTS TO JUMP IN.

>> SURE.

>> IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, YOU CAN -- COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL, SHE'S NOT HERE.

>> WE DO ALREADY HAVE $5.50 PER TICKET.

FOR MANY OF OUR USERS OF THE FACILITY, INCLUDING SOME THAT ARE HERE, THAT'S A LOT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A $20 TICKET FOR EACH ONE OF THEM.

THAT BECOMES QUITE A BIT.

>> ROCHA GARCIA: THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER ROACHA GARCIA.

COUNCIL MEMBER VIAGRAN.

>> VIAGRAN: I THINK ALONG THOSE SAME LINES, I THINK THE TICKETMASTER ALREADYDY HAS A FE LOCKED ON TO BOTH OF THEM FOR CERTAIN THINGS.

SO I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO GET A LIST OF WHAT THOSE ARE.

>> (INDISCERNIBLE).

>> VIAGRAN: I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT BACKUP SLIDE.

>> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CUSTOMER PROCESSING FEES UNDER THE --

>> VIAGRAN: YES.

THEY SAID IT'S A PHONE INTERNET FEE AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER FEE.

IT WO

>> WE'RE PROVIDING THE CUSTOMER PROCESSING FEE FOR A $20 TO $40 FAMILY EVENT, YEAR ONE, UNDER TICKETMASTER, TOBY AND SQUADUP.

AND YEAR TEN.

AND IF YOU GO DOWN BASICALLY, IT SHOWS YOU THE FEES ARE RETAINED BY THE VENDOR.

THE FEES THAT WOULD BE RETAINED BY THE CITY, AND THEN THE TOTAL FEES FOR THE CUSTOMER.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, YEAR ONE, UNDER THE TICKETMASTER PROPOSAL, A FEE -- A PROCESSING FEE WOULD BE $13.50 FOR SOMEBODY BUYING A $20 TO $40 FAMILY TICKET.

AND THEN IT WOULD BE $13.25 UNDER THE TOBY, AND $3.51 UNDER THE SQUADUP.

IN YEAR TEN, THOUGH, THEY INCREASE THIS $20 TO $40 TICKET, A FAMILY EVENT, IT WOULD BE $14.70 IN YEAR TEN.

AND THEN UNDER THE TOBY PROPOSAL, OR TOBIN CENTER'S PROPOSAL, IT WOULD BE $15.25.

AND THEN PLUS, AGAIN, OUR FEE IS ON TOP OF THAT.

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AND AGAIN, THESE FEES ARE -- PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO -- THEY COME TO THE BOX OFFICE, THEY DON'T PAY THESE PROCESSING FEES, BUT THEY DO PAY $5.50 OF FEES THAT A MAJORITY OF THAT $5.50 IS TO GO OFF TO OFFSET THE DEBT ON THE RECENT RENOVATIONS AT THE AL AL A MA DOME.

>> VIAGRAN: THANK YOU, SLIDE 10, THE MATRIX, OUT OF CURIOSITY, ON C, UNDER PRICE, SQUADUP GOT 1.97.

WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT?

>> AGAIN, THEY WERE GETTING BASICALLY 10% OF THE 10% FEE THEY'RE CHARGING CUSTOMERS, SO THAT'S REVENUE TO THE CITY, RETURNED TO THE CITY 173,000 COMPARED TO 2 MILLION AND A MILLION AND A HALF.

>> VIAGRAN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WELL, I JUST, FOR THE RECORD, I HAD ALL MY QUESTIONS -- I'VE GIVEN ALL MY QUESTIONS, I'VE HAD THESE ANSWERS, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH TOMORROW.

THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU.

COUNCILWOMAN PERRY.

>> PERRY: ONE OTHER COMMENT.

THERE WAS A THING ABOUT, WELL, LET'S ADD ANOTHER $1 ONTO THE TICKETS.

MAN, I'M TELLING YOU, THEY'RE EXPENSIVE ENOUGH ALREADY, THE WAY IT IS.

YOU KNOW, FOR A FAMILY TO GO OUT AND BUY THESE TICKETS, NUMBER ONE, AND THAT DOESN'T COUNT PARKING AT THE FACILITIES.

IT'S GETTING TOO EXPENSIVE THE WAY IT IS.

SO WE'RE IN THIS PROPOSAL, WE'RE GETTING $2 MILLION BACK FOR THE CITY.

YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH MORE DO WE WANT TO GRAB FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO THESE EVENTS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.

I'M TELLING YOU, WE'VE GOT -- I THINK WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN REDUCE OUR TICKET PRICES, AND NOT INCREASE THEM TO GET MORE MONEY HERE FOR THE CITY.

SO I WOULD -- I'D BE JUMPING UP AND DOWN IF PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO ADD PRICES, OR ADD COST TO THE PRICE OF THESE TICKETS HERE.

YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T GO TO THESE EVENTS BECAUSE THEY SIMPLY CAN'T AFFORD THEM RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S ALL I HAD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY, COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREWS-SULLIVAN.

>> ANDREWS-SULLIVAN: THANK YOU.

I'M GLAD WE'RE CONTINUING TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, BECAUSE THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAD IN MY MIND, THAT I'M ASKING YOU TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON, FINALLY PRESENTED THEMSELVES AT THIS MOMENT.

AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WANTED TO GET TO, WAS EXACTLY HOW MUCH IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR RESOURCE, BRINGING IN TICKETMASTER, THAT WE TRULY SEE COMING BACK BASED ON THOSE TICKET PRICES.

WHERE DO WE SEE THE BENEFIT GOING BACK INTO THE ARTS, AND FINDING THAT NUMBER, AND COME UP RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT TRULY MADE THE DIFFERENCE IN LETTING US KNOW EXACTLY HOW WE WILL GET THOSE NUMBERS, HOW WE WILL GET THAT MONEY INTO THE RIGHT AND THE PROPER AREAS THAT IT NEEDS TO GO.

SO THANK YOU, COUNCIL COLLEAGUES, FOR CONTINUING THIS CONVERSATION AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING THAT READILY AVAILABLE FOR US TO SEE FIRSTHAND.

AND SO I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF MOVING FORWARD.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, PATRICE YEAH AND THE

[Executive Session]

STAFF FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

THAT IS ALL THE ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA.

WE HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO GET TO AS WELL AS CEREMONIALS AT 5:30 FOLLOWED BY PUBLIC COMMENT.

THE TIME IS 4:37 P.M., WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 18TH, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL CONSULT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.071, IN CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY AND TO DELIBERATE AND DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING ITEMS, DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS PURSUANT TO SECTION.087, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO PURCHASE EXCHANGE OR LEASE OF REAL PROPERTY PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.072 REAL PROPERTY, AND LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO COLLECTIVE BARGAININ MEETING.

WE ARE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE

[Ceremonial Recognitions]

SESSION WHERE NO ACTION WAS TAKEN.

SO WE HAVE SEVERAL CEREMONIAL ITEMS. THE FIRST IS CERTIFICATES, MAYOR'S 12-K SMART CITY CHALLENGE WINNER.

MAYOR RON NIRENBERG WILL ANNOUNCE THE WINNERS OF THE MAYOR'S K-12 SMART CITY CHALLENGE.

STUDENT TEAMS IN GRADES 7 THROUGH 12 RESEARCHED A SAN ANTONIO-SPECIFIC SMART CITY PROBLEM AND PROPOSED A STRATEGY, PRODUCT, OR SERVICE AS A SOLUTION.

THEIR RESEARCH INCLUDED S.T.E.M., CIVICS, AND POLICY

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TOPICS.

THE STUDENTS CONDUCTED TECHNICAL AND MARKETING RESEARCH, SHARED THEIR RESULTS, AND THEN MADE A RECOMMENDATION.

ALL THE WHILE, THE STUDENTS LEARNED 21ST CENTURY TEAMWORK SKILLS AND WHAT IT MEANS TO LIVE AND HELP DEVELOP A SMART CITY.

SO I THINK THE MAYOR ALREADY GAVE OUT THE PROCLAMATION TO THE WINNERS.

SO IF -- DO WE STILL HAVE ANYBODY HERE FROM -- WILL YOU ALL PLEASE STAND? OH, THERE YOU ARE.

[APPLAUSE] ALL RIGHT.

OH, OKAY.

WE HAVE HERE OUR WINNERS.

THE FIRST PLACE, MAYOR'S CUP WINNER, WAS JUDSON ISDJ-S.T.E.M.

ACADEMY.

SECOND PLACE, NIMITZ MIDDLE SCHOOL.

AND THIRD PLACE, BASIS HIGH SCHOOL IN LAVERNE YEAH.

THE NATISHE RESOURCEFULNESS AWARD, JOHN J. SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING ACADEMY AT S.E.A.

HORSES.

OH, GOOD, YOU CAME UP HERE.

COULD YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND TELL ME WHAT YOU ALL DID? SOMEBODY WANT TO INTRODUCE THE GROUP? OH, YEAH, SORRY, COME UP.

>> JUDSON MEDICAL SCHOOL, 8TH GRADE CLASS, THEY'RE NOW 9TH GRADERS, SO I'LL LET THEM COME UP AND INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.

>> HI, MY NAME IS BRAD AND I WAS A PROGRAMMER.

>> HI, MY NAME IS JASMINE, I WAS AN ANALYST.

>> HI, MY NAME IS JULIE.

>> MY NAME IS RITA, I WAS THE PROJECT LEADER.

>> AND I'M JANEL, I WAS A RESEARCHER.

>> ALL RIGHT.

[APPLAUSE] SO CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THE PROGRAM THAT YOU DID?

>> SO, IN ORDER TO CREATE A WAY FOR THE CITIZENS OF SAN ANTONIO TO REDUCE THEIR CARBON FOOTPRINT, WITH EMADE AN APP THAT PROVIDES INCENTIVE FOR PEOPLE TO COMPLETE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY CHALLENGES THAT RUN IN DIGITAL POINTS TO GET DISCOUNTS FROM COMPANIES, PRODUCTS, OR EVEN GET FREE ITEMS. IF COMPANIES ARE WILLING TO GIVE A SPONSORSHIP IN EXCHANGE FOR TIZMENT, THEY CAN RECEIVE THESE AWARDS FOR COMPLETING CHALLENGES.

>> ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR COMING.

[APPLAUSE]

>> DR. GARCIA ROCHA? ROCHA GARSIA?

>> I JUST WANTED TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO THE TEAM.

BUT I ALSO WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I HAD ASKED IN OUR PLAN OF ACTION, IF WE COULD CONSIDER USING TECHNOLOGY OR INNOVATION OR SPECIFICALLY AN APP.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAD SHARED IT WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY OFFICE, BUT IF YOU HAVEN'T, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN YOU ALL SHARING WHAT YOU'VE LEARNED, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT, YOUR SPONSOR WOULD REACH OUT TO THE SUSTAINABILITY OFFICE, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN, AND CONGRATS.

>> THANK YOU ALL.

[APPLAUSE]

>> OUR SECOND ITEM IS A PROCLAMATION FOR TRINITY UNIVERSITY'S 150TH ANNIVERSARY.

TRINITY UNIVERSITY COMMENCED ITS FIRST CLASSES ON SEPTEMBER 23RD, 1869, WHEN FIVE FACULTY MEMBERS GREETED SEVEN STUDENTS.

BY THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, THERE WERE OVER 100 STUDENTS IN ATTENDANCE.

TRINITY IS A PRIVATE LIBERAL ARTS UNIVERSITY WHOSE STUDENT BODY CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 2,300 UNDERGRADUATES, AND 200 GRADUATE STUDENTS.

TRINITY OFFERS 42 MAJORS AND 57 MINORS, AMONG SIX DEGREE PROGRAMS. TRINITY UNIVERSITY IS ONE OF THE NATION'S TOP PRIVATE UNDERGRADUATE INSTITUTIONS.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

COULD YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF?

>> MY NAME IS DANNY ANDERSON, I'M THE PRESIDENT AT TRINITY UNIVERSITY.

I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS PROCLAMATION.

WE HAVE ALUMNI WHO ARE SOME OF YOUR PEERS HERE IN THE COUNCIL.

MAYOR NIRENBERG IS AN ALUM, CITY MANAGER ERIK WALSH IS AN ALUM, ALSO MANNY PELAEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER MANNY.

THIS NEXT MONDAY WILL BE THE 150TH DAY OF THE FIRST START OF CLASSES FOR TRINITY.

I REALLY DO THINK COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO FOR THE SUPPORT HE'S GIVEN US AS WE LOOK AT DIFFERENT PROJECTS.

I WOULD MS LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE SAN ANTONIO CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

THEY MADE THE PHONE CALL THE DAY AFTER THE BOMBING OF PEARL HARBOR IN 18941 TO INVITE TRINITY TO MOVE TO SAN ANTONIO.

WE MOVED AND OPENED DOORS HERE IN FALL OF 1942.

TODAY WE WORK HARD TO EMPOWER PURPOSE FOR LIVES AND OUR STUDENTS, AND WE'RE PROUD TO BE SAN ANTONIO BE OUR HOME.

>> WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

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BEING HERE.

WE HAVE SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENTS.

COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN.

>> VIAGRAN: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU PRESIDENT ANDERSON FOR BEING HERE AND REPRESENTING TRINITY UNIVERSITY.

AND THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING THERE.

AND THE CONTINUING TO THRIVE ON THAT CAMPUS.

THE HISTORIC CAMPUS THAT IT IS NOW.

AND I ALSO WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR HOSTING THE UNVEILING OF THE U.S. MINT, THE SAN ANTONIO MISSIONS QUARTER.

IT WAS GREAT TO BE THERE.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PLAYING HOST TO THAT AS WE UNVEILED THE SAN ANTONIO CORRIDOR.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SYMPHONIES EARLIER TODAY, AND MY FIRST EXPERIENCE AS A CHILD WAS AT LAURIE AUDITORIUM LISTENING TO THE SYMPHONY.

TRINITY WAS ALWAYS A PART OF MY LIFE GROWING UP, JUST BECAUSE GOING TO THE LORI AUDITORIUM.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS MAKING THAT CONNECTION TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

AND CONGRATULATIONS.

>> THANK YOU.

THAT'S AN HONOR.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN.

COUNCIL TREVINO.

>> TREVINO: THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO IN OUR COMMUNITY.

IT'S OUR PLEASURE TO WORK WITH YOU.

WE REALLY ENJOY IT.

WE KNOW THAT YOU TAKE THAT PARTNERSHIP SERIOUSLY.

I KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND TRINITY IS TRULY, TRULY GRATEFUL TO HAVE YOU.

YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF AMAZING WORK ON THE CAMPUS.

IT'S ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL CAMPUSES ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.

AND I KNOW THAT A LOT OF HARD WORK GOES INTO THAT, A LOT OF GREAT PLANNING.

I LOOK FORWARD TO SOME OF THE GREAT POTENTIAL BOND PROJECTS THAT WE CAN LOOK FORWARD TO IN THE FUTURE WITH YOUR UNIVERSITY, AND OF COURSE, ALL THE GREAT THINGS TO COME ON THAT CAMPUS.

I DID NOT GO TO TRINITY, BUT I WILL SAY, I'VE GOT TO ADMIT, I'M THERE MOST MORNINGS RUNNING ALONGSIDE THE TRACK TEAM.

NOW, THE TRACK TEAM IS WASTING ME ON THE TRACK, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, THEY INSPIRE ME TO KEEP GOING OUT THERE.

SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

>> THAT'S GREAT.

YOU'RE VERY WELCOME ON OUR CAMPUS.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN TREVINO.

THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN AND ALLOWING US TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

BYE-BYE.

THANK YOU.

>> OUR FINAL ITEM IS HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH.

NATIONAL HISPANIC HER DAMAGE MONTH WILL BE OBSERVED FROM SEPTEMBER 15TH TO OCTOBER 15TH TO RECOGNIZE THE CONTRIBUTIONS MADE AND THE IMPORTANT PRESENCE OF HISPANIC AND LATINO AMERICANS TO THE UNITED STATES.

THE ANNUAL OBSERVANCE, ESTABLISHED IN 1989, COMMEMORATES THE ANNIVERSARY OF THE INDEPENDENCE OF FIVE LATIN AMERICAN COUNTRIES AND CELEBRATES THE DIVERSE HISPANIC CULTURES OF SOCIETY THROUGHOUT OUR NATION "HISTORY.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS PROCLAMATION.

I'M REPRESENTING THE RETIRED TEACHER'S ASSOCIATION.

WE ARE THE LARGEST RETIRED TEACHER'S ASSOCIATION IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

EVEN THOUGH WE'RE RETIRED, WE STILL GIVE BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH VOLUNTEER SERVICES.

WE HAVE A LITERACY PROJECT.

AND LAST YEAR, WE PROVIDED OVER 6,000 BOOKS TO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CHILDREN IN BEXAR COUNTY.

WE ALSO HAVE OTHER PROJECTS, LIKE THE WOUNDED WARRIOR PROJECT THAT WE WORK WITH EVERY YEAR, AND READS ACROSS AMERICA.

SO WE'RE VERY PLEASED THAT YOU'RE RECOGNIZING US.

OUR GROUP IS VERY, VERY DIVERSE, AND SO WE ALWAYS CELEBRATE THE DIFFERENT ETHNIC GROUPS THAT COMPOSE OUR ORGANIZATION.

AND I THANK YOU FOR THE RECOGNITION.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> ACTUALLY, I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS GOING TO HAVE A SPEAKING PART HERE BUT ON BEHALF OF THE LETTERMAN, THE WING COMMANDER, I'M CARLOS, AND I'M THE VICE DIRECTOR FOR JVSA.

WHAT AN HONOR TO RECEIVE THIS PROCLAMATION, THAT WE LOVE TO HOST, THIS ONE JUST STARTS ON THE 15TH OF THIS MONTH AUDIO] PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE HAVE WITH NOT ONLY OUR LOCAL MILITARY THAT WE HAVE, BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY, BUT ALL THE COMMUNITY.

SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO LOOK AT THE AGENDA WE HAVE OUT THERE, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING ON EVERY ONE OF OUR BASES, TO INCLUDE 266 MISSION PARTNERS, ARMY COMPONENTS, AND OUR COMMITTEE, WITH DANCERS AND FOOD.

SO PLEASE, CHECK IT OUT.

WE'RE GOING TO BE GOOD FOR EVERYBODY.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING BY THIS EVENING.

AND Y'ALL HAVE A VERY WONDERFUL DAY.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.