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          GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. 
          THE TIME IS 1:03 PM ON THIS 12TH DAY OF NOVEMBER, UH, THURSDAY, 2020. 
          UH, WE HAVE NOW WE'VE CONVENED OUR SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING. 
          UH, 
          [1. 20-6590 A briefing on the Alamo Plan. [Lori Houston, Assistant City Manager]]
WE HAVE ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA TODAY. 
          UM, BUT BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT, MADAM CLERK, COULD YOU READ THE ROLE? COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER VERAN. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CODA HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PALS HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY HERE. 
          AND MAYOR BERG HERE. 
          MAYOR, WE HAVE A QUORUM. 
          ALRIGHT, WELCOME EVERYONE. 
          WE DO HAVE ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA TODAY. 
          IT'S THE BRIEFING ON THE ALAMO PLAN. 
          LET ME FIRST TURN IT OVER TO OUR CITY MANAGER, ERIC WALSH. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          SO THIS AFTERNOON WE HAVE A, UH, PRESENTATION, UH, TO YOU, A BRIEFING ON THE ALAMO PLAN TO INCLUDE THE ALAMO MASTER PLAN AND A QUICK OVERVIEW OF OF, OF, OF ALL THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN BEFORE THE COUNCIL, UH, SINCE THIS PLAN BEGAN. 
          UM, AND OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE AND THE ALAMO TRUST. 
          WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THOSE OTHER, UH, GROUPS THAT ARE, THAT ARE, UH, ON THE CALL. 
          UM, AND I THANK THEM FOR, FOR BEING HERE TODAY. 
          UH, LORI WAS GONNA WALK US THROUGH KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, WHERE WE STARTED, UH, WHERE WE'VE BEEN AND WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. 
          UH, TWO, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY TWO MAIN THINGS THAT HAVE OCCURRED HERE IN THE LAST, UH, TWO MONTHS. 
          UH, ONE WAS THE, UM, UH, THE TEXAS STORAGE COMMISSION'S DENIAL OF THE PERMIT TO MOVE . 
          AND THEN WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF, UM, OF DEPARTURES FROM THE, UH, ALMO, UM, TRUST FOUNDATION, UM, WHO WERE REALLY SPEARHEADING THE, UM, MUSEUM OF VISITOR CENTER. 
          SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ISSUES THAT, UH, WERE CRITICAL TO THE, THE OVERALL PLAN. 
          LORI WILL TALK ABOUT THOSE TODAY. 
          AND UM, AND WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF MEETINGS. 
          THE CITY'S HAD A NUMBER OF MEETINGS WITH OUR PARTNERS SINCE THE END OF SEPTEMBER TO UH, KIND OF DETERMINE THE PATH FORWARD. 
          BUT THIS WILL BE A FIRST OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO, UH, IN THE OPEN SESSION, GIVE THE ENTIRE COUNCIL, UH, THE UPDATE AND UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CONVERSATION. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THANK YOU ERIC AND JOHN, CAN YOU PUT MY PRESENTATION UP PLEASE? OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          I'M ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER LAURIE HOUSTON, AND I HAVE HAD THE DISTINCT HONOR OF WORKING ON THE ALAMO PLAN SINCE 2012. 
          AND FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION, I'LL PROVIDE A TIMELINE AND HISTORY OF THE ALAMO PLAN. 
          HIGHLIGHT WHY THE PLAN IS DIFFERENT FROM PREVIOUS ATTEMPTS TO IMPROVE THE ALAMO AREA, PROVIDE A STATUS ON SEVERAL COMPONENTS OF THE PLAN AND SUMMARIZE WHERE WE ARE IN ITS IMPLEMENTATION. 
          AND BEFORE I FORGET, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE A COUPLE PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE CALL WITH US. 
          WE HAVE WELCOME WILSON AND HOPE ANDRATI WHO REPRESENT THE ALAMO TRUST. 
          AND WE ALSO HAVE HECTOR VIA AND JEFF GORDON WHO ARE WITH THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE. 
          AFTER THE PRESENTATION, THOSE INDIVIDUALS ALONG WITH CITY MANAGER ERIC WALSH, COUNCIL MEMBER ROBERTA TREVINO, CITY ATTORNEY ANDY SEGOVIA OR MYSELF WILL BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          NOW I WANNA FIRST START WITH A HISTORY AND TIMELINE. 
          IN MARCH OF 2014, THE CITY ESTABLISHED THE ALAMOS CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO CREATE A VISION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES FOR THE ALAMO PLAZA AND SURROUNDING AREAS AND TO ASSIST WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF A MASTER PLAN FOR THE ALAMO PLAZA. 
          THE VISION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES WERE ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL IN DECEMBER OF 2014. 
          NOW, IN 2015, COMMISSIONER GEORGE P. BUSH APPROACHED THE CITY ABOUT A PARTNERSHIP TO JOINTLY DEVELOP A MASTER PLAN FOR THE ALMA PLAZA, AS WELL AS THE CHURCH IN LONG BARRACK AND THE CROCKETT PALACE AND WOOLWORTH BUILDINGS. 
          THEY AGREED TO A PARTNERSHIP, PROVIDED THEY AGREED TO USE THE VISION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES AS THAT PLANS FOUNDATION. 
          AND IN MARCH OF 2015, THE PARTIES EXECUTED A COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT TO FORMALIZE THIS PARTNERSHIP. 
          NOW, FOLLOWING MONTHS OF PUBLIC INPUT AND ENGAGEMENT, CITY COUNCIL AND THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE CONCEPTUALLY APPROVED THE MASTER PLAN. 
          AND AFTER MORE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, THE PARTIES RETURNED WITH THE ALAMO PLAN, WHICH IS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, H D R C, THE ALAMO CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, CITY COUNCIL, 
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AND THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE. 
          BETWEEN AUGUST OF 2018 AND OCTOBER OF 2018, AND THEN UPON APPROVAL, THE PARTIES IMMEDIATELY STARTED THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN AND SOUGHT THE NECESSARY REGULATORY APPROVALS. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          NOW THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF EFFORTS TO REDEVELOP AND DO A MASTER PLAN FOR THIS AREA. 
          AND I'VE ALLUDED TO THOSE EFFORTS AND PREVIOUS PLANS. 
          WE KNOW PLANS FROM 19 78, 19 88, 19 94, 2002, AND 2012. 
          BUT NONE OF THEM MADE IT PAST THE PLANNING STAGE. 
          AND THERE'S REASONS WHY AND THERE'S SEVERAL. 
          ONE, THIS PLAN IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT HAS A VISION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT BOTH PARTIES AGREED TO. 
          WE NEVER WERE ABLE TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS ON WHAT WE WANTED THE ALAMO SURROUNDING AREA TO BE. 
          WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP AND WE HAVE STRONG LEADERSHIP. 
          WE ALSO HAVE FUNDING THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED. 
          WE HAVE ALMOST $150 MILLION IN STATE AND CITY FUNDING. 
          AND THERE IS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND PUBLIC SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT. 
          THIS IS WHY WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE THIS PLAN GO SO FAR. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          NOW KEY TO THIS PLAN IS THE VISION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES. 
          THESE WERE CREATED BY THE ALAMO CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AFTER 14 MEETINGS, WHICH INCLUDED VERY DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS. 
          AND I WANNA MENTION THAT THE ALAMO CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE INCLUDES A MEMBER FROM EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT, AS WELL AS 11 APPOINTEES FROM THE MAYOR THAT REPRESENT DIFFERENT TYPES OF EXPERTISE. 
          CITY OF COUNCIL APPROVE THE VISION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND THEY ARE EMBEDDED IN OUR COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT WITH OUR PROJECT PARTNERS. 
          SO OUR VISION IS TO ENGAGE, TO TELL THE STORY OF THE BATTLE, INCLUDE AND INTERPRET DIVERSE CULTURES THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE STORY AND TELL THE IN-DEPTH STORY OF ALL THAT LIVED, FOUGHT, AND DIED THERE. 
          AND THAT'S KEY. 
          TELL THE IN-DEPTH STORY OF EVERYONE THAT LIVED AT THE SITE AND DIED AT THE SITE AND FOUGHT AT THE SITE. 
          THIS WAS THE FOUNDATION OF THE ALAMO PLAN AND IT SERVES AS THE GUIDEPOSTS FOR EVERY MEMBER OF OUR PARTNERSHIP AND OUR DESIGN TEAM. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          NOW THE NEXT COMPONENT I WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT DIFFERENTIATES ITSELF FROM OTHER PLANNING EFFORTS IS OUR COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT TO THE CITY, THE ALAMO ENDOWMENT AND THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE. 
          ON OCTOBER OF 2015, CITY COUNCIL EXECUTED AN AGREEMENT AMONG THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE, THE ALAMO ENDOWMENT BOARD, AND THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, REGARDING THE JOINT MASTER PLAN FOR THE ALAMO AND SURROUNDING AREA. 
          THE AGREEMENT OUTLINES THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES FOR EACH PARTY, AS WELL AS THE MANAGEMENT AND OVERSIGHT STRUCTURE FOR THE MASTER PLAN'S DEVELOPMENT AND ADOPTION. 
          THE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT IDENTIFIED THE VISION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES DEVELOPED BY THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AS THE FOUNDATION FOR THE MASTER PLAN. 
          THE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT ALSO EXPANDED THE ELEMENT CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO INCLUDE FIVE ADDITIONAL MEMBERS. 
          SO IT WENT FROM 21 TO 26 MEMBERS. 
          NOW THE AGREEMENT CREATED A TWO MEMBER EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND SPECIFICALLY APPOINTED THE MAYOR AND THE COMMISSIONER FOR THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE TO THIS EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE. 
          THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE IS TO PROVIDE EXECUTIVE MANAGEMENT OVERSIGHT TO THE JOINT MASTER PLAN AND REQUIRE SIGN OFF FROM BOTH OFFICIALS. 
          THE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE ELEVATES ITEMS TO THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AS NEEDED, AND THE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE IS THE ENTITY THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DAY-TO-DAY MANAGEMENT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE JOINT MASTER PLAN. 
          IT IS A SIX MEMBER COMMITTEE THAT INCLUDES TWO, TWO REPRESENTATIVES FROM EACH ENTITY. 
          THE MAYOR IS APPOINTED COUNCIL MEMBER ROBERTA TRINO AND CITY MANAGER ERIC WALSH, TO REPRESENT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          OTHER MEMBERS INCLUDE HECTOR BAY AND JEFF GORDON WITH THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE. 
          AND WELCOME WILSON AND CONGRESSMAN WIL HER THE TRUST. 
          THE AGREEMENT ALSO INCLUDED A ROLE FOR THE ALAMO CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          THE ALAMO CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS ADVISORY TO THE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE AND THEIR ROLE IS TO ENSURE THAT THE ALAMO PLAN REMAINS TRUE TO THE VISION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES. 
          THE FINAL GROUP IS AN ADVISORY GROUP THAT MET DURING THE PLAN'S DEVELOPMENT INCLUDED TWO STATE REPRESENTATIVES, THE COUNTY JUDGE AND COUNCIL MEMBER ROBERTA TREVINO, AND A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE G L O. 
          THEY'RE ALSO ADVISORY TO THE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          NOW, ONCE THE PLAN WAS ADOPTED, CITY COUNCIL AND THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE EXECUTED A GROUND LEASE AND MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT THAT PROVIDED FOR UNIFIED MANAGEMENT OF THE SITE. 
          THE G L O IS RESPONSIBLE FOR 
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PROGRAMMING, MAINTENANCE, AND SECURITY OF THE SITE. 
          AND THROUGH THE LEASE AGREEMENT, THEY'RE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MANAGEMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ALMO PLAN. 
          THE AREA IN RED ON THE SLIDE HAS ALREADY BEEN RELEASED TO THE G L O. 
          THE AREA IN YELLOW IS SCHEDULED TO BE RELEASED IN SUMMER OF 2021 AND THE AREA IN GREEN WILL RAIN IN CONTROL WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND THERE'S ALWAYS FUNDING. 
          WE'VE NEVER HAD FUNDING TO IMPLEMENT ANY PLAN THAT'S COME FORWARD. 
          WE HAVE ALMOST $150 MILLION IN STATE AND CITY FUNDING. 
          THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS APPROPRIATED $106 MILLION IN TWO LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS. 
          THIS MONEY IS GONE TOWARDS BUILDING ACQUISITION AND THE CHURCH IN LONG BEAR RESTORATION. 
          THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO HAS $38 MILLION. 
          THAT'S $21 MILLION FROM THE 2017 BOND PROGRAM AND ANOTHER 16, UM, MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE CAPITAL BUDGET. 
          THIS MONEY IS TO GO TOWARDS PHASE ONE AAMA PLAZA, WHICH IS THE AREA SOUTH OF THE, UM, BATTLEFIELD OR THE HISTORIC MISSION FOOTPRINT, AND IT'S FOR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL. 
          AND THEN THE ALAMO FOUNDATION, WHICH IS A NONPROFIT ENTITY, THEY WERE CREATED TO FUNDRAISE FOR THE MUSEUM OF VISITOR CENTER AND ALSO TO FUNDRAISE FOR THE HISTORIC FOOTPRINT, WHICH WILL SERVE AS THE OUTDOOR MUSEUM COMPONENT OF THE MUSEUM VISITOR CENTER. 
          AND THEIR GOAL WAS UP TO $200 MILLION. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE HAD PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. 
          THE PARTICULAR PLAN HAS BEEN UNDERWAY SINCE 2014 WHEN THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE WAS CREATED, CREATED. 
          BUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF PLAN OF THE PLAN WAS NOT LIMITED TO THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE OR THE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE. 
          WE HAD SIX YEARS OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. 
          THERE WERE OVER 200 STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS TO INCLUDE LOCAL AND STATE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND EXECUTIVES. 
          WE TOOK THE PROJECT UP ON THE ROAD TO 13 DIFFERENT TEXAS CITIES. 
          WE HAD 19 ADVISORY COMMITTEE WORKSHOPS THAT WERE ALL OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. 
          WE ALSO HAD 12 PUBLIC MEETINGS AND NUMEROUS REGULATORY APPROVALS THAT WERE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. 
          AND THE PARTNERS TESTED THE PLAN THROUGH POLLING AND SURVEYS BEFORE WE PRESENTED IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE FOR APPROVAL. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          NOW BEFORE I GO OVER THE PLAN ELEMENTS, I WANNA DO A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE SITE. 
          THE SITE HAS OVER 300 YEARS OF LAYERED HISTORY, STARTING WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE MISSION IN CONCLUDING WITH ABOUT POST BATTLE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE, WHICH REPRESENTS THE URBANIZATION OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          HOWEVER, THE MOST WIDELY RECOGNIZED EVENTS ARE THE BATTLE OF THE ALAMO AND THE TEXAS REVOLUTION. 
          THE SITE HAS LAYERS OF HISTORY AND THOSE LAYERS ARE DIFFICULT TO INTERPRET BECAUSE THE PLAZA HAS BEEN NARROWED AND SEGMENTED BY ROADS AND DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND THE AREAS COMMERCIALIZED. 
          ALMOST NOTHING ON THE PLAZA REMINDS VISITORS OF ANY HISTORIC EVENT THAT TOOK PLACE. 
          THEREFORE, THE PLAN IS TO TRY TO RECLAIM AS MUCH OF THE HISTORIC MISSION FOOTPRINT AS POSSIBLE. 
          AND WHEN PEOPLE VISIT THE SITE, THEY'LL LEARN ABOUT THESE TWO EVENTS, BUT WE WILL TELL THEM SO MUCH MORE AND WE'LL TELL 'EM THE ENTIRE STORY OF THE ALAMO IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, STARTING WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE MISSION AND TO THE URBANIZATION OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO THE KEY ELEMENTS TO THE PLAN. 
          NUMBER ONE, RESTORE THE CHURCH IN LONG BARRACK. 
          NUMBER TWO, DELINEATE THE FOOTPRINT. 
          NUMBER THREE, RECAPTURE THE PLAZA. 
          NUMBER FOUR, CREATE A SENSE OF ARRIVAL TO THE SITE IN THE FIFTH AND LAST, AND NOT LEAST, IS TO CREATE A WORLD-CLASS VISITOR CENTER, A MUSEUM WHICH WILL ENCOMPASS THE ENTIRE MISSION FOOTPRINT. 
          NOW SOME OF THIS WORK IS ALREADY UNDERWAY. 
          SPECIFICALLY I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CHURCH IN LONG BARWICK. 
          DO YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE? THE CHURCH IN LONG BARWICK NEED TO BE STABILIZED AND MADE BETTER THROUGH PRESERVATION, CONSERVATION, AND REPAIR. 
          AND THE WORK HAS BEGUN AND STARTED WITH A CAREFUL REVIEW OF THE HISTORIC RECORD IDENTIFICATION AND COLLECTION OF PHYSICAL EVIDENCE, NON-DESTRUCTIVE EXAMINATIONS, AND A ROBUST PROBING AND TESTING PROGRAM. 
          THESE EFFORTS HAVE ALLOWED OUR TEAM OF EXPERTS TO CREATE A CLEAR PLAN FOR ITS LONG-TERM PRESERVATION. 
          WE ALSO NEED TO FOCUS ON THE CARE AND INTERPRETATION OF THESE TWO HISTORIC STRUCTURES. 
          AND THIS CONSERVATION 
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EFFORT IS ONGOING. 
          THE NEXT EFFORT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IS THE WORLD-CLASS MUSEUM AND VISITOR CENTER. 
          IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, JOHN. 
          WHILE THE G L O WAS WORKING ON THE CHURCH IN LONG BARRICK, THE PARTIES WERE ALSO WORKING ON THE ALIMO MUSEUM VISITOR CENTER, SPECIFICALLY THREE REPORTS THAT WILL HELP US INFORM ITS DEVELOPMENT. 
          THE REPORTS INCLUDE THE JOHN G. WADE ASSOCIATES ARCHITECTS ASSESSMENT, WHICH LOOKS AT THE WOOLWORTH CROCKETT AND PALACE BUILDINGS. 
          DR. 
          KERRY LAMAR'S REPORT ON THE HISTORY OF DESEGREGATION IN SAN ANTONIO FROM WORLD WAR II TO THE MID 1960S. 
          AND THE ALAMO RESEARCH TEAM REPORT ON THE 1960 LUNCH COUNTER INTEGRION IN DOWNTOWN SAN ANTONIO. 
          THESE REPORTS WERE RELEASED ON OCTOBER 22ND, 2020. 
          NOW JOHN G WAITS ASSOCIATES REPORT REFERRED TO AS ALAMO PLAZA. 
          EXISTING BUILDING'S HISTORICAL ASSESSMENT EXAMINES THE SIGNIFICANCE AND LEVEL OF INTEGRITY OF EACH OF THESE THREE BUILDINGS ON ALAMO PLAZA. 
          THE STUDY ULTIMATELY CONCLUDED THAT ALL THE BUILDINGS ARE IN SOUND STRUCTURAL CONDITION AND HAVE A STRONG POTENTIAL OR CONTINUED USE FOR A NEW MUSEUM AND TO OPERATE AS A MUSEUM. 
          DR. 
          CARRIE LATIMORE STUDY TITLED CIVIL RIGHTS IN SAN ANTONIO WAS MADE AT THE REQUEST OF ALAMO TRUST AND IT WAS FUNDED BY THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          THE REPORT GOES INTO GREAT DETAIL ABOUT THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT IN SAN ANTONIO AND HOW THE EXPERIENCES OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN SAN ANTONIO ARE CONNECTED TO THE NATIONAL CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT. 
          THE REPORT SHOWS THAT THE CIVIL RIGHTS STORY IS LARGER THAN THE WOOLWORTH BUILDING. 
          HOWEVER, THE WOOLWORTH BUILDING HAD AN IMPORTANT PART IN THE STORY, BUT WE NEED TO DO A BROADER EFFORT. 
          AND COUNCIL MEMBER ROBERTO TREVINO HAS BEEN WORKING ON THAT WITH, UM, PRIVATE DEVELOPERS TO POTENTIALLY DO AN EXHIBIT IN LECTURE HALL ON HOUSTON STREET. 
          IN THE LAST REPORT WAS THE ALAMO RESEARCH TEAM LUNCH COUNTER PHOTOGRAPHY REPORT. 
          THERE ARE SEVERAL PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE LUNCH COUNTER SIT-IN AND SOME OF THEM CLAIM TO BE TAKEN IN THE WALWORTH BUILDING. 
          THE REPORT SHOWS THAT THESE PICTURES WERE NOT TAKEN IN THE WOOLWORTH BUILDING, BUT THEY WERE TAKEN AT THE CREST BUILDING. 
          THIS REPORT IS NOT TO MINIMIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE WOOLWORTH BUILDING, BUT ONCE AGAIN, TO SHOW THAT THE STORY IS MUCH LARGER THAN ONE BUILDING. 
          AND WE NEED TO REALLY EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY AND CELEBRATE THAT THROUGH THIS EXHIBIT AND LECTURE HALL AND SHOW WHAT WE CAN DO. 
          NOW, THESE THREE STORIES, THESE THREE REPORTS ARE GONNA BE USED TO HELP US DETERMINE THE DESIGN OF THE MUSEUM . 
          AND THEN THE LAST ELEMENT OF THE PLAN THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IS THE PHASE ONE OF ALAMO PLAZA. 
          YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, JOHN. 
          SO IN ADDITION TO THE RESTORATION WORK AND OUR DUE DILIGENCE ON THE HISTORIC BUILDINGS, THE PARTNERS WERE HEAVILY FOCUSED ON PHASE ONE OF THE ALAMO PLAZA. 
          THIS IS THE AREA WHERE THE GAZEBO WAS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE PLAZA. 
          THIS PHASE ALSO INCLUDED THE REPAIR AND RELOCATION OF THE SENATE HALF, WHICH IS CRUCIAL TO THE ENTIRE PROJECT. 
          ONCE THE CTAF IS RELOCATED, PROJECT PARTNERS CAN PROCEED TO THE RESTORATION OF THE HISTORIC MISSION PLAZA AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE MUSEUM AND VISITOR CENTER. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          NOW, PER OUR COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT AND LEASE AGREEMENT, THE PROJECT PARTNERS MUST FOLLOW ALL APPLICABLE LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS. 
          AND WE HAVE DONE SO FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. 
          WE HAVE BEEN STRATEGIC AND BRIEF LOCAL AND STATE OFFICIALS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS TO ENSURE A SEAMLESS PROCESS AND ENSURE NO ENTITY IS SURPRISED. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, THAT WAS NOT THE CASE FOR PHASE ONE LMA PLAZA. 
          THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WORKED THROUGH THE CITY PROCESS AND IT WAS APPROVED BY H D R C IN DECEMBER OF 2019. 
          THE NEXT STEP WAS TO PROCEED THE T H C AS THE G L O HAD ALREADY APPROVED THE TAF RELOCATION. 
          WHILE THERE WERE SEVERAL BRIEFINGS WITH STATE OFFICIALS AND STAFF PRIOR TO T H C CONSIDERATION, THE PERMIT TO MOVE THE TAF WAS ULTIMATELY DENIED. 
          IN JANUARY OF 2020, THE PROJECT PARTNERS PRESENTED THE ITEM TO THE TE TEXAS HISTORIC COMMISSION AND WE REQUESTED THAT WE MOVE THE CAF. 
          THEY REQUESTED THAT WE RETURN WITH A, A NEW PROPOSAL THAT MOVE THE CAF CLOSER TO THE CHURCH AND APPROVE THE SIGHT LINE BETWEEN THE CHURCH AND THE CAF. 
          THE PARTNERS ACCOMMODATED THE REQUEST AND WE WERE PREPARED TO RETURN IN MARCH, BUT THE MEETING WAS CANCELED DUE TO COVID. 
          WE WERE PREPARED TO PRESENT IN JUNE, BUT CHAIRMAN NOW MOVED THE MEETING TO SEPTEMBER 'CAUSE HE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT HAVING SUCH AN IMPORTANT ISSUE DISCUSSED VIRTUALLY, HOWEVER, 
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ULTIMATELY, THE ITEM WENT FORWARD ON THE SEPTEMBER AGENDA AND T H C. 
          ULTIMATELY, DESI DENIED IT, STATING CONCERNS ABOUT WANTING TO FOCUS MORE ON THE 1836 STORY AND FEELING THAT THE CURRENT SITE WAS HISTORIC IN ITSELF. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          NOW THE DENIAL OF THE PERMIT HAS HAD A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE ALAMO PLAN. 
          FIRST PHASE ONE IS DESIGNED AND ASSUMES THE SYNAP IS THE FOCAL POINT. 
          SO WE WOULD HAVE TO REDESIGN THIS AREA. 
          AND THE SECOND IS THE MUSEUM AND THE VISITOR CENTER MAY NOT HAPPEN OR WILL BE DELAYED 'CAUSE THE RECAPTURED HISTORIC MISSION PLAZA WAS SERVED AS PART OF THE MUSEUM AND PROVIDE FOR OUTDOOR SPACE THAT ACCOMMODATES DIVERSE PROGRAMMING. 
          AND THE RELOCATION OF SENATE TAF WAS NECESSARY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE OPTIONS. 
          IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          WE HAVE OPTIONS AND WE HAVE COMMITTED PARTNERS. 
          WE KNOW THAT THE ALAMO PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL CANNOT BE IMPLEMENTED UNLESS THE TIMELINES ARE ADJUSTED. 
          WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE PARTNERS ARE COMMITTED TO THE VISION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES INTO A CONTINUED COOPERATION. 
          AND THE PARTIES UNDERSTAND THAT ANY PATH FORWARD WILL REQUIRE A CHANGE TO THE LEASE AND MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT. 
          HOWEVER, A MUTUALLY AGREED WIND DOWN ON THE LEASE AND MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT REMAINS AN OPTION. 
          THIS IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY WITH THE ALAMO PLAN AND ANDY SEGOVIA, ERIC WALSH, COUNCIL MEMBER, ROBERTO AND I ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 
          HOWEVER, WE MAY NEED TO GO INTO EXEC SESSION TO TALK ABOUT THE LEGALITIES OF A POTENTIAL WIND DOWN OR OTHER ELEMENTS OF THE PLAN. 
          ADDITIONALLY, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, WE HAVE WELCOME WILSON, WHO IS THE CHAIR OF THE ALMO TRUST, AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ALONG WITH HOPE ANDRATI, WHO'S ALSO A MEMBER OF THE TRUST. 
          AND WE HAVE HECTOR VA AND JEFF CORD OF THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, LORI FOR THE PRESENTATION, UH, FOR, UH, MY COLLEAGUE. 
          JUST A REMINDER, AGAIN, IF YOU WANT TO GET INTO THE QUEUE, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FUNCTION ON YOUR WEBEX. 
          UH, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET INTO DISCUSSION HERE. 
          NOW, UM, LET ME START WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHE GARCIA. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          AND AND THANK YOU LORI FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          SO I'LL START OFF WITH THAT SLIDE THAT YOU JUST REFERENCED. 
          UM, AND, AND THIS IS JUST FOR, FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND. 
          SO THE TWO, IF YOU WILL, UM, UH, OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE ARE, UM, GOING FORWARD WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF A CHANGE TO THE LEASE AND MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT OR, UH, WIND DOWN THE LEASE AND MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT. 
          RIGHT? THOSE ARE THE TWO OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE TODAY. 
          YES. 
          AND SO EITHER AMEND THE LEASE MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT OR CHANGE IT OR MUTUALLY AGREE TO UNWIND THE LEASE AGREEMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          PERFECT. 
          THANK YOU, LORI. 
          I JUST WANTED TO, TO BE CLEAR ON THAT. 
          UM, AND THEN I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. 
          UM, SO OBVIOUSLY I WASN'T ON CITY COUNCIL WHEN, WHEN A WHOLE LOT OF THIS WAS GOING ON. 
          SO I TRY TO GO THROUGH, UM, SOME OF THE MINUTES THROUGH ALL OF THE MINUTES SINCE 2014. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, I DID NOT FIND ANY MINUTES FOR, UM, EVER SINCE SEPTEMBER, 2014. 
          I WAS NOT ABLE TO FIND ANY MEETING MINUTES, UH, FOR THE, UH, THE COMMISSION. 
          SO I'M WONDERING IF, IF YOU AND YOUR STAFF COULD ME, I ALSO ONLY SAW SIX MEETINGS IN THE PAST THREE YEARS. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? NO, THAT IS NOT CORRECT. 
          AND WE HAVE A REPORT ON THE ENTIRE ALAMO CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT TALKS ABOUT ALL THE MEETINGS, BOTH DURING THE 2014 TIME WHEN THEY CREATED THE VISION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES. 
          AND THEN WE CAN, I'LL LOOK TO FIND THE SUMMARY OF THE OTHER MEETINGS WE HAVE. 
          YES, PLEASE. 
          'CAUSE THEY WEREN'T ON THE WEBSITE. 
          AND AGAIN, I LOOKED THROUGH ALL OF THE MEETING DOCUMENTS. 
          UM, SOME OF THEM WERE, WERE VERY EXTENSIVE, MORE THAN 200 PAGES, SOME OF 'EM WERE 30 PAGES. 
          UM, AND SO I, I TRIED, BUT LIKE I SAID, THERE'S NO LINKS TO, UM, SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS. 
          SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE. 
          AND THEN ALSO, UM, ONE OF THOSE, UH, UH, MINUTES THAT I WAS ABLE TO FIND WERE FOR AUGUST OF 26TH OF 2014, AND ON THERE IT REFERENCES SOME ONLINE COMMENTS. 
          AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THOSE ONLINE COMMENTS. 
          CAN YOU ALSO SEND ME WHERE I COULD FIND THOSE ONLINE COMMENTS? YES, I'LL LOOK INTO THAT AND GET THAT TO YOU, COUNCILMAN. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN ALSO ON THE JULY 10TH MEETING, THERE WAS A RECAP ABOUT, UM, THE PUBLIC COMMENT PROCESS, UM, BY COUNCILMAN TREVINO ON THE AGENDA, BUT I 
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COULDN'T FIND THOSE MINUTES EITHER. 
          AND SO MAYBE, UM, AT, AT SOME POINT, IF I CAN GET A QUICK SYNOPSIS OF THAT, I'D LIKE TO KNOW NUMBERS. 
          HOW MANY PEOPLE ATTENDED THE MEETINGS? UM, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION, YOU MENTIONED 14 PUBLIC MEETINGS, BUT SLIDE EIGHT HAS 12 MEETINGS IN SAN ANTONIO AND 13 IN TEXAS. 
          AND SO I WAS TRYING TO FIND OUT HOW MANY PUBLIC MEETINGS, IF WE HAVE A COUNT OF HOW MANY SAN ANTONIO RESIDENTS PARTICIPATED. 
          AND IF YOU CAN CLARIFY TO ME WHETHER THEN THAT MEANS THAT THERE WAS 25 TOTAL MEETINGS IN TEXAS, OR WHETHER WE'RE INCLUDING 12 OF THE 13 IN SAN ANTONIO OUT. 
          SO WE HAD 14 ALAMO CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETINGS OKAY. 
          TO CREATE THE VISION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES. 
          THOSE MEETINGS WERE COMPLETELY PUBLIC. 
          AND THEN WE HAD 19 PUBLIC ALAMO CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE WORKSHOPS. 
          SEPARATE FROM THAT, WE HAD 12 PUBLIC MEETINGS TO THE PUBLIC PROVIDING FEEDBACK. 
          AND THOSE WERE ALL IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          AND THEN WE HAD 13 OTHER PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT WERE NOT IN SAN ANTONIO, THAT WERE THROUGHOUT TEXAS. 
          GOT IT. 
          PERFECT. 
          AND THAT HELPS ME. 
          UM, I ALSO NOTICED THAT, UM, AND BY THE WAY, THERE WAS A, A BEAUTIFUL BRAND PERCEPTION RESEARCH STUDY THAT WAS DONE. 
          AND, AND I WAS, UH, ENTIRELY NERDING OUT ON IT. 
          SO GREAT JOB TO WHOEVER, UM, SELECTED THAT, UH, RESEARCH COMPANY. 
          THEY DID A GREAT JOB, UM, ON THAT PANEL OR, OR THE FOLKS THAT WE WERE BEING ASKED, THEY WERE PEOPLE FROM DC, SAN FRANCISCO, SAN JOSE, LOS ANGELES, UM, SAN DIEGO, DENVER, AND PHOENIX. 
          AND I NOTICED THAT SAN ANTONIO PROSPECTS THAT WERE ASKED, THERE WAS ONLY 236 SAN ANTONIANS. 
          SO, UM, I WAS WONDERING IF MAYBE SOMEBODY CAN GIVE ME, I KNOW THAT IT WAS PERCEPTION ABOUT THE ALAMO AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, PROBABLY SOME, SOME, WELL, NO, THERE WERE TEXAS PROSPECTS, BUT I WAS TRYING TO FIND OUT, UM, WHY WE DECIDED TO, TO FOCUS ON THOSE. 
          I'M SURE THAT MAYBE VISIT SAN ANTONIO OR SOMEONE GAVE US THAT MARKET. 
          UM, BUT I ALSO LEARNED IN THAT PRESENTATION THAT ONE IN FIVE VISITORS DOESN'T ACTUALLY ENTER THE ALAMO WHEN THEY VISIT. 
          AND SO THAT'S KINDA WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT AT SOME OF THESE COMMENTS. 
          OR I'M WONDERING IF PEOPLE WERE ASKING ABOUT THIS. 
          UM, BUT, BUT, SO, SO, AND, AND AGAIN, I'M SORRY, LORI. 
          I'M, I'M NEW TO THIS, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND. 
          UM, I ALSO NOTICED THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS, UM, THIS WAS ALL STARTED BY A C C R BY COUNCILMAN, UM, DIEGO NAN FROM DISTRICT ONE AT THE TIME. 
          I HAVE NOT FOUND THAT C C R, BUT I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHY IT CAME UP AGAIN. 
          BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IN 1994, UM, HOWARD PEAK AND ROGER FLORES WERE THE TWO REPRESENTATIVES FROM CITY COUNCIL THAT WORKED ON THAT PLAN. 
          AND SO I, I WAS AGAIN, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED IF THERE WAS SOME ADDITIONAL DIRECTION ON THE C C R, ET CETERA. 
          SO IF YOU CAN HELP ME FIND THAT C C R, THAT, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL AS WELL. 
          LORI, I'M SORRY. 
          I'M ASKING FOR, FOR SO, SO MANY THINGS, BUT AS I WAS READING THROUGH ALL THESE DOCUMENTS, I, I, I NEED TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          UM, THERE'S ALSO A, UH, OH, THERE'S, UH, THERE'S AN OVERVIEW THAT'S REFERENCED, UM, ON THE MAY 28TH, 2014, UH, MINUTES. 
          AND WE TALK ABOUT THE US CAPITOL COMPLEX, WE TALK ABOUT ROCKEFELLER CENTER, WE TALK ABOUT THEIR PRESIDIO, UM, UH, SAN JACINTO, PEARL HARBOR AND PUERTO RICO. 
          AND I WAS WONDERING HOW THOSE IMPORTANT CLAUSES WERE SELECTED AS POINTS OF COMPARISON, BECAUSE I DID NOTICE THAT IN SOME OF THE MINUTES OF THE AMO ADVISORY COMMITTEE, IT CAME UP, OR THE FACT CAME UP THAT SOME OF THOSE REALLY WEREN'T, UM, THINGS THAT WE COULD COMPARE, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, PEARL HARBOR, WHICH TECHNICALLY YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO. 
          UM, SO I'M, I'M WONDERING, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, WHY WAS IT FORT FORT MCHENRY CONSIDERED, OR WHO GAVE US THAT LIST OF THE OTHER, UM, CLAUSES THAT ARE SIMILAR, UH, THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT? AND AGAIN, THIS IS ALL JUST TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE 1994 RECOMMENDATION HAD, UH, DONE WAS AN INTERNATIONAL DESIGN COMPETITION. 
          AND I, I KNOW THAT WE, UH, I, I DIDN'T FIND TOO MUCH INFORMATION ON HOW WE DECIDED TO GO WITH, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER IT WAS THAT, UH, THAT, THAT FINALLY IS, IS WORKING ON THIS. 
          BUT I'D LIKE TO LEARN ABOUT THAT AS WELL. 
          AND THEN I'M ALSO WONDERING IF WE'VE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION THIS POST COVID OR ACTUALLY COEXISTING WITH COVID ENVIRONMENT THAT WE ARE IN RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, BECAUSE IT, IF THE PLAN IS STILL AS IS AND, AND WE'RE JUST SHIFTING TIMELINES, ET CETERA, HOW ARE WE ADJUSTING TO THE NEW COVID REALITIES WOULD BE ONE OF MY MAJOR CONCERNS. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, INTO CONSIDERATION. 
          UM, ALSO, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE, UM, THOUGHT ABOUT, OBVIOUSLY THE BICENTENNIAL WAS COMING UP IN 2036 AND WONDERING IF, UM, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO RESET. 
          YOU HAD ON YOUR SLIDE PRESENTATION THAT WE HAVE, UM, SEVERAL, OR, OR THAT WE HAVE MONEY COMMITTED. 
          AND I GUESS MY QUESTION, AND MAYBE THIS IS JUST THE 
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CAUTIOUS ME, LIKE, DO WE REALLY HAVE MONEY? LIKE SHOULDN'T WE BE SPENDING THAT ON OTHER THINGS? LIKE, YOU KNOW, COVID RECOVERY IS, IS THERE A FIRM COMMITMENT? AND, AND THEN I'M ALSO DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE I DON'T SEE A PLAN B. 
          SO I GUESS MY, MY QUESTION IS, AFTER WE WERE TOLD THAT WE COULDN'T RELOCATE THE SENATE ENO, LIKE, WHAT WAS THE PLAN B? OR DID WE HAVE A PLAN B? AND MAYBE I'M NOT SEEING IT, UM, BECAUSE IT, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE WE, WE DON'T HAVE ONE. 
          UM, AND THEN ALSO WITH THE, IN THE 2012, UM, STUDY, IT, UM, TALKS ABOUT RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THAT RESIDENTS SHOULD BE AT THE TABLE BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE HERE LONG AFTER WE'RE GONE. 
          I MEAN, WE MIGHT NOT BE HERE IN MAY. 
          UM, AND SO, UH, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, UH, THAT'S WHY I'M LOOKING FOR NUMBERS. 
          HOW MANY PEOPLE PARTICIPATED? WAS IT JUST STAKEHOLDER GROUPS? IS IT PEOPLE REPRESENTING OR, OR IS IT, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC? AND I'M SURE YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE NINE COUNCIL BRIEFING MEETINGS. 
          UM, AND I, I, I DIDN'T SEE THOSE COUNCIL MEETING DATES, SO I WASN'T ABLE TO LOOK UP THE MINUTES AND TIME, UM, BECAUSE I WENT TO SEE WHAT MY COLLEAGUES SAID THAT BE, OR, YOU KNOW, WOULD'VE, WOULD'VE ASKED BEFORE. 
          UM, AND THEN I KNOW, AND I WANNA THANK MY APPOINT, WELL, IT'S NOT MY APPOINTEE, COUNCILMAN SALDANA WAS MY PREDECESSOR APPOINTED RUDY RODRIGUEZ BEFORE I GOT HERE. 
          BUT I NOTICED THAT, UM, HE WAS PRESENT FOR ALMOST ALL OF THE MEETINGS. 
          I THINK I ONLY SAW HIM MISS TWO OF THE MEETINGS. 
          AND SO I DO, UH, WANNA SAY THAT IN ONE OF THE, UM, MEETINGS, JULY 31ST, 2014, HE REFERRED TO HEMISPHERE PROCESS AS A GOOD MODEL. 
          AND HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW MAYBE WE SHOULD MIRROR THAT PROCESS. 
          AND I'D LOVE TO SEE THE HEMISPHERE PROCESS MODEL BECAUSE ALTHOUGH IT WAS REFERENCED IN THE MINUTES, THERE WAS NO DOCUMENT WHERE I CAN CLICK AND, AND SEE WHAT THAT PROCESS WAS. 
          UM, AND THEN ALSO, UH, WE TALK ABOUT OVER 200 STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS TO INCLUDE LOCAL AND STATE ELECTED OFFICIALS. 
          BUT I'M WONDERING IF THE STATE ELECTED OFFICIALS, WAS IT ONLY THE G L O OR WAS IT REALLY LIKE OUR STATE REPS? AND IF SO, WHICH ONES OF OUR STATE REPS WERE ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN THIS? UM, AND THEN FINALLY IN THE AUGUST 5TH, 2014 MEETINGS, WE TALK ABOUT, UM, WE, WE, UH, RESTORING, UM, THE SITE, POSSIBLY USING DIGITAL TECHNOLOGY. 
          AND I WANNA KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE. 
          LIKE, IS THERE STILL A PLAN TO MAYBE USE, UM, TECHNOLOGY OR, OR NOT? UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THANK YOU, LORI. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I KNOW I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS OR, OR I'LL BE ASKING A A LOT MORE, BUT, UM, THE ALAMO PLAN WAS NOT ACCESSIBLE ON THE AUGUST 27TH LINK. 
          AND SO, UM, I, I JUST, UH, STILL HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL RESEARCH TO DO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHE GARCIA, COUNCIL MEMBER PAL. 
          THANKS. 
          I CAME TO, UH, I CAME TO SAN ANTONIO IN 1992, UH, TO, UH, ATTEND, UH, TRINITY WITH, UH, WITH THE MAYOR AND WITH ERIC WALSH AND SOME OF THE OTHER FOLKS ON, ON THIS CALL. 
          AND, UH, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I DID WAS TAKE MY PARENTS DOWNTOWN. 
          UM, AND WE WENT TO THE ALAMO BECAUSE THE ALAMO STORY IS HUGE. 
          IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          AND WE ALL WALKED THAT UP TO IT. 
          AND EVERYBODY, ALMOST AS IF WE WERE READING FROM A SCRIPT IN UNISON SAID, THAT'S IT. 
          UM, AND WE WENT INSIDE AND WE LEARNED ABOUT THE STORY. 
          AND YOU DO, I MEAN, IF YOU REALLY ARE CURIOUS, YOU, YOU KNOW, THAT STORY IS INSPIRING AND THAT STORY IS, IS, UH, CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, MERITS FURTHER INVESTIGATION AND LEADING TO LEARNING A WHOLE BUNCH ABOUT, UM, ABOUT A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT TOPICS. 
          BUT STILL, YOU WALK AWAY FROM THAT EXPERIENCE SAYING, HUH, THAT THING SURE IS ANTICLIMACTIC, RIGHT? AND, UH, I THINK IT DOES THAT PLAZA THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW, IT DOES DISHONOR, UH, TO THE, UH, TO THE ENORMITY OF THE STORY AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THE STORY. 
          AND SO I REALLY APPROACH THIS FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE, MAYOR, AND, AND, UH, AND ERIC, I, I, UH, YEAH, I, I THINK THAT WE CAN DO BETTER. 
          UH, AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO, UH, REALLY, UH, HONOR HISTORY, ALL THE HISTORY, UH, THE BIG LAYERED HISTORY THAT LORI WAS TALKING ABOUT BY CREATING, UH, AN EXPERIENCE FOR OUR VISITORS, UH, WHEN THEY GET THERE TO NOT JUST UNDERSTAND HISTORY, BUT TO FEEL THE AWE THAT WE ALL WANT THEM TO FEEL. 
          'CAUSE RIGHT NOW, AIN'T NOBODY FEELING ANY AWE. 
          UM, AND, YOU KNOW, UM, OTHER CITIES, COUNCILS BEFORE US COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING THEY DIDN'T. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL REALIZES THAT WHEN 39 MILLION PEOPLE VISIT SAN ANTONIO AND MILLIONS, AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF THEM WALK AWAY SAYING, HUH, THAT'S IT. 
          THAT'S IT IS THE STORY THEY TELL TO THEIR FRIENDS, UH, WHEN THEY GO HOME. 
          UH, AND INSTEAD OF THAT'S IT, WE WANT THEM TO SAY, YOU'VE GOTTA GO SEE IT. 
          IT'S AMAZING. 
          IT WILL, YOU KNOW, CHANGE YOUR LIFE AND YOUR PERSPECTIVE. 
          AND SO, UH, LORI DID SAY THE WORDS LAYERED HISTORY, UM, AND LAYERED HISTORY REALLY IS JUST A WAY, ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING MULTIPLE STORIES, RIGHT? AND SO, UH, AND ALL OF US KNOW, RIGHT? THE STORIES ARE, UH, THE STORY OF SPANISH EXPLORATION. 
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THAT'S A, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT STORY. 
          THE STORY OF NATIVE AMERICANS, UM, THE STORY OF, UH, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND HOW IT HELPED DEVELOP THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE. 
          REALLY IMPORTANT STORY. 
          THE STORY OF THE CAMINO REAL AND THE SETTLEMENT, THE DEVELOPMENT OF ALL OF TEXAS, THE STORY OF TEXAS COMMERCE, THE STORY OF THE TEXAS REVOLUTION, THE STORY OF THE SIEGE OF BEAR, UM, THE STORY OF THE DAUGHTERS OF THE TEXAS REPUBLIC, A STORY ABOUT CIVIL RIGHTS, ALL REALLY IMPORTANT STORIES. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THE STORY OF THE BATTLE, WHICH IS A HUGE, IMPORTANT STORY. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE, THE COMMONALITY THAT THEY ALL SHARE IS THAT EACH IS A STORY ABOUT COURAGE. 
          THESE ARE ALL VERY IMPORTANT STORIES OF COURAGE, COURAGE, NOT JOHN, COURAGE. 
          SORRY JOHN, IF I CONFUSED YOU RIGHT. 
          AND COURAGE AND SACRIFICE. 
          AND THESE ARE STORIES THAT NEED TO BE TOLD. 
          SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND. 
          AND, AND I DON'T THINK I EVER WILL, WHY THE MOANING AND GNASHING OF TEETH FROM CERTAIN QUARTERS WHEN THEY HEAR THAT SOMEBODY DARES TO TELL OTHER STORIES AS OPPOSED TO JUST ONE THAT SOMEHOW TELLING OTHER STORIES DIMINISHES THE STORY OF THE BATTLE. 
          YOU KNOW? AND I SEE WHAT, INSTEAD, WHAT I SEE IS A COMPLETE LACK OF COURAGE, RIGHT? PEOPLE WHO'VE COME TO WORSHIP AND MYTHOLOGIZE THE, THIS VALUE OF COURAGE THAT THE BATTLE REPRESENTS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND REALLY MYTHOLOGIZE THESE HEROES, THESE FOLKS ARE SO TERRIFIED OF ALLOWING PEOPLE TO LEARN ABOUT THE LONG HISTORY. 
          I DON'T GET IT RIGHT. 
          AND, UM, THAT LACK OF COURAGE IS COMPLETELY, UM, IT'S HEARTBREAKING TO SEE PEOPLE AFRAID OF OTHER PEOPLE LEARNING. 
          SO FOR ALL THE TALK OF TEXAS TOUGHNESS AND VALUES OF BRAVERY AND LOVE OF HISTORY, TO SEE THE HEAD OF THE HISTORIC COMMISSION AND THE LIEUTENANT, THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR FAIL SO SPECTACULARLY AT LIVING UP TO THOSE VALUES JUST MAKES ME SAD. 
          UM, SO I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THERE'S AN APPOINTEE TO THE, TO THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          HIS NAME IS JOSE MARIA GONZALEZ, UH, FORMER EXECUTIVE WITH A HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, WHO IS A SPANIARD FROM MADRID. 
          AND I, I APPOINTED HIM TO THAT COMMITTEE, UM, SO THAT HE CAN KEEP HIS EYE ON ALL THE STORIES, INCLUDING THE STORY OF THE BATTLE. 
          I THINK HE'S DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD, I HOPE THAT THIS COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, ENGAGES IN ADULT, UH, IN AN ADULT CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW WE MOVE FORWARD, AS OPPOSED TO LOOKING BACKWARDS ON HOW OUR EXECUTION COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER. 
          LORI, I THINK YOU'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB. 
          UM, COUNCILMAN TREVINO. 
          I THINK THAT YOU'VE REALLY TACKLED A VERY DIFFICULT SUBJECT. 
          AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS OUT THERE WITH THEIR LIGHT, THEIR KNIFE SHARPENED FOR BOTH OF YOU, AND, YOU KNOW, FOR ALL OF US FOR DARING TO SUGGEST THAT ALL THE STORIES BE TOLD. 
          BUT I WOULD ASK THAT YOU GUYS KEEP DOING IT. 
          UM, WHAT WE DON'T NEED IS A DISTRACTION IN THE MEDIA. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS, UH, OVER US FIGHTING OVER CULTURE WARS ISSUES, OR US GOING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMEHOW SCORE POINTS WITH LIBERALS VERSUS CONSERVATIVE. 
          THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. 
          UH, I THINK ALL, EVERYBODY HERE AGREES THAT THE ONE THING THAT BRINGS US TOGETHER IS WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STORY OF SAN ANTONIO CONTINUE TO BE ONE OF SUCCESS AND DRAWING PEOPLE HERE. 
          AND RIGHT NOW, I GOTTA TELL YOU, WE'VE GOT A PRODUCT THAT WE WANT THE PUBLIC TO SEE THAT IS REALLY SUBJECT TO A WHOLE BUNCH OF AREAS OF IMPROVEMENT. 
          AND I THINK THAT IT'S ON US TO, UM, CONTINUOUSLY IMPROVE. 
          AND THIS IS ONE THAT NEEDS OUR ATTENTION. 
          AND SO I'LL SAY SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, MAY BE POLITICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, RISKY, BUT THE AWESOME STORY OF THE ALAMO DOES NOT MATCH THE NOT SO AWESOME EXPERIENCE OF BEING AT THE ALAMO. 
          AND I THINK THAT WE CAN CHANGE THAT. 
          SO, UM, THANKS MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PAL. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, THANK YOU LORI AND COUNCILMAN TREVINO. 
          UM, THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN ROCHA GARCIA FOR, UM, ASKING THE QUESTIONS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL OF OUR ANSWERS, UM, THAT WE HAVE BEEN SEEKING FOR. 
          UM, AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, LORI, I JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE THE PUBLIC MEETINGS WERE HELD HERE IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AND THEN WHAT DISTRICTS WERE THEY HELD AND HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE IN ATTENDANCE. 
          UM, WE HAD, YOU KNOW, WE HAD SEVERAL PUBLIC MEETINGS AT THE CONVENTION CENTER 'CAUSE WE NEEDED TO GET A LARGE ENOUGH SPACE TO ACCOMMODATE THE GROUPS. 
          WE HAD A COUPLE HUNDREDS, UM, COMING TO THESE MEETINGS. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO SPREAD THEM OUT AND DID SEVERAL MEETINGS IN DIFFERENT COUNCIL DISTRICTS, BROKE 'EM UP INTO QUADRANTS. 
          UM, AND THEN WE ALSO, SO WENT AND VISITED, UM, ORGANIZATIONS THAT REQUESTED THAT WE COME TO THEM AND PRESENT. 
          AND SO AT OUR PUBLIC MEETINGS, THEY WERE SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND WE HAD SEVERAL AT THE CONVENTION CENTER AS WELL. 
          AND THEN TOWARDS THE END, WE HAD SOME SECURITY ISSUES, AND SO WE WERE HOLDING THE PUBLIC MEETINGS IN CITY FACILITIES THAT COULD ADDRESS THESE SECURITY ISSUES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND I KNOW THAT YOU RECEIVED THAT COUNCILMAN 
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VINNO IS WORKING WITH A, A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS IN REFERENCE TO THE WOOLWORTH, UM, BUILDING AND, AND OTHER, UH, CIVIL RIGHTS PORTIONS OF THE STORY. 
          AND I WANTED TO ASK, WE HAVE, UM, MS. NETTY HINTON, WHO HAS BEEN, UM, ADVOCATING FOR THE WOOLWORTH BUILDING AND PUTTING OUT THE, UM, CAN WE GET A LIST OF WHO THE STAKEHOLDERS ARE OR IF ANY OF THE STAKEHOLDERS, UM, ACTUALLY REPRESENT THE VOICE OF THE WOOLWORTH BUILDING? WE HAVE. 
          SO CARRIE, DR. 
          CARRIE LATIMORE DID A STUDY THAT IS STRATEG SPECIFICALLY TO RESEARCH THAT HE HAS DONE. 
          AND THEN THE EFFORT THAT COUNCILMAN TINO IS WORKING ON IS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH FREDDY UNIVERSITY AND CARRIE LATIMORE. 
          AND OF COURSE, WE WILL INCORPORATE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS. 
          UM, IT'S IN THE VERY BEGINNING OF THAT EFFORT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND SO RIGHT NOW, AND IF I MAY, REPRESENTATIVE BARBARA GERWIN HAWKINS IS ALSO INVOLVED. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. 
          UM, AND THEN ALSO AS WE ARE GOING INTO THIS COVID, UM, ERROR, AND WE KNOW THAT A LOT OF OUR ART CENTERS AND OUR MUSEUMS AND ARE STRUGGLING FINANCIALLY, WHAT IS OUR PLAN, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SUSTAINABLE AND RE AND RESILIENT IF WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD A MUSEUM WITHIN THE ALAMO PLAN? SO I DO WANT TO SHARE, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR FUNDING THE MUSEUM THAT IS ON THE ALAMO FOUNDATION. 
          AND SO AS THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN, THEY WILL DEVELOP AN OPERATING AGREEMENT, AND I MEAN AN OPERATING PLAN. 
          BUT WHEN STRESS, THERE IS A SMALL MUSEUM ALREADY, IT'S IN THE CHURCH, AND THEY ALSO HAVE THE BOOKSTORE THAT'S ON THE GROUND. 
          SO THEY WANT TO MOVE THAT OUT FROM BEHIND THE ALAMO AND RELOCATE IT INTO THOSE HISTORIC BUILDINGS. 
          AND SO THERE ALREADY IS A MUSEUM IN PLACE, AND THE ALAMO IS THE NUMBER ONE OR TWO TOURIST DESTINATION AT THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          UM, PEOPLE ARE STILL GOING TO GO TO THE ALAMO. 
          AND AS COUNCILWOMAN, UM, ROCHA GARCIA MENTIONED THE TECHNOLOGY THAT IS DEFINITELY PART OF THE INTERPRETIVE PLAN. 
          WE WILL INCORPORATE TECHNOLOGY SO PEOPLE CAN EXPERIENCE THE ALAMO ONLINE AND NOT HAVE TO GO TO THE MUSEUM AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION, IS IF WE WERE GONNA OFFER VIRTUAL TOURS. 
          UH, SO THANK YOU, LORI, WITH THAT. 
          UM, AS WE'RE GOING FORWARD, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL DIFFERENT CHANGES WITHIN THE PLAN, WITHIN THE ORGANIZATIONS, WITHIN THE STRUCTURES. 
          UM, AND THEN JUST LAST NIGHT, WE KNOW THAT THERE WAS THE STORY OF A LOT OF THE, THE DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS THAT ARE, ARE PULLING OUT FROM WITHIN THE, THE, THE PROCESS WITHIN THE THE ALAMO AREA. 
          UM, CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE TO THAT, LORI, OR CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT OTHER ENGAGEMENT ARE WE HAVING WITH OUR COMMUNITY OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS ABOUT THE DIFFERENT CHANGES IN THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE HEARING ABOUT THE DIFFERENCES OF, OF THE INVESTORS AND, AND PEOPLE THAT ARE SAYING THEY'RE PULLING OUT OF THE PLAN? AND I WANNA STRESS THAT THE THINGS WERE MOVING FORWARD AS PLANNED AND AS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL AND THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE UP UNTIL JANUARY OF 2020. 
          AND WE HAD BRIEFED THE ALAMO CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON TWO OCCASIONS. 
          WE HAD BRIEFED A COUNCIL COMMITTEE ON THIS, AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH IMPLEMENTATION IN JANUARY. 
          THE ITEM WAS TO GO TO T H C, IT GOT DELAYED TO MARCH, AND THEN THE COVID PANDEMIC CANCELED THE NEXT MEETINGS, AND WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GO FORWARD TO THE T H C UNTIL SEPTEMBER. 
          SO UP UNTIL REALLY SEPTEMBER OF 2020, THE PLAN AS APPROVED TO COUNSEL WAS, WAS OUR GOAL. 
          WHAT HAPPENED WAS THE T H C DENIED THAT PERMIT, AND AS A RESULT OF DENYING THAT PERMIT, THE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNSEL CANNOT BE IMPLEMENTED. 
          SO THAT WAS THE MOST RECENT CHANGE IN SEPTEMBER, 2020, THE DENIAL OF THE PERMIT TRIGGERED THE CHANGE. 
          WHAT THAT THEN DID IS BECAUSE THE ALAMO PLAN THAT HAS, HAS THE CTA, UM, BEING RELOCATED, AND THAT'S NECESSARY TO RECAPTURE THE PLAZA AND HELP US PROGRAM THE AREA TO TELL ALL THE STORIES. 
          THE ALAMO FOUNDATION THAT HAD SEVERAL MEMBERS WERE CHARGED WITH FUNDRAISING, THE 200 MILLION FOR THE VISITOR CENTER MUSEUM, THEY RESIGNED BECAUSE THE SENATE HALF WAS KEY TO THEIR ABILITY TO BUILD THE MUSEUM AS THEY ENVISIONED. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHAT THE STORY YOU HEARD OR READ YESTERDAY, WE HAD SEVERAL HIGH POWERED INDIVIDUALS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS WHO SAW THE TCS DENIAL 
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AS A MAJOR BARRIER TO GETTING THAT MUSEUM DONE. 
          AND THEY HAVE RESIGNED NOW, THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE, THEY'RE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WELL AS A TRUST. 
          THEY'RE EXPLORING WAYS ON HOW THEY CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT MUSEUM VISITOR CENTER. 
          AND THAT'S PART OF ALL THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE ON HOW WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          I THINK YOU, I THINK YOU ANSWERED THAT. 
          YOU ASKED A VERY GOOD QUESTION. 
          AND REALLY TO THE HEART OF THE MATTER, THERE ARE, THERE ARE THREE MAIN ELEMENTS TO THE PROJECT. 
          YOU'VE GOT THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE AT THE ALAMO CHAPEL AND THE LONG BARRACKS, AND THAT WORK IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW. 
          AND THEN YOU HAVE IN THE MIDDLE, YOU'VE GOT THE PLAZA WORK THAT IS REALLY THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY THAT INCLUDED THE MOVEMENT OF THE SENATE TAB THAT ISN'T MOVING NOW. 
          SO WE NEED TO KIND OF RETHINK THAT BECAUSE THERE STILL IS A MASTER PLAN THAT'S BEEN APPROVED BY ALL THE PARTIES AND, AND, AND, AND ALIGNED WITH THE THINGS THAT COUNCILMAN PLY WAS TALKING ABOUT. 
          AND THE MUSEUM IS THE THIRD PIECE. 
          AND SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEIR NEXT STEPS ARE. 
          UM, MUCH LIKE, UH, WE'RE HERE TALKING TODAY ABOUT OUR OBLIGATIONS ON THE ALAMO MA ON THE, ON THE MA THE MASTER PLAN IN THE PLAZA. 
          AND, AND, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GONNA NEED TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ADOPTED MASTER PLAN. 
          WE HAVE, UM, FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, APPROVED BY THE VOTERS, UM, IN THE 2012, I'M SORRY, IN THE 2017 BOND PROGRAM. 
          BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE A JU WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO REDO REDESIGN 'CAUSE THAT SENATE TAB IS NOT MOVING. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO DOES, IS THAT GONNA REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT OR WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR US AS COUNCIL TO HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE CAN VOTE ON SOMETHING? IS IS THERE ALREADY A DESIGN IN THE WORKS OR, OR ARE WE STILL JUST HAVING THE CONVERSATION ABOUT PUTTING A DESIGN IN THE WORKS? SO WE'VE HAD, THAT'S PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS. 
          I'M SORRY, LORI. 
          UM, I'LL, I'LL GO AHEAD FIRST. 
          AND, UH, WE'VE HAD PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS, WELL, MORE THAN PRELIMINARY BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE G L O ABOUT THE ASPECTS OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT. 
          UH, SOME THINGS ARE GONNA HAVE TO GET ADJUSTED, UH, TIMELINES. 
          UM, AND THOSE THINGS ARE EITHER GONNA, UH, COME IN THE FORM OF A, OF A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE STATE THAT THAT IS ESSENTIALLY AN AMENDMENT. 
          WE'LL COME BACK TO COUNCIL AT SOME POINT TO, TO, TO REVIEW THAT WITH THE COUNCIL AND ADJUST THE LEASE AGREEMENT. 
          UM, OR, OR WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PARTNERS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, BACK TO MY THREE PARTS, THE MUSEUM PIECE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE OBLIGATED TO DO THAT. 
          THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT. 
          THE PLAZA AND THE ALAMO ITSELF WITH THE WORK IS CONTINUING. 
          A LOT OF THIS WORK NEEDS TO CONTINUE, UM, BECAUSE IT'S ALL IN, IT'S ALL IN MOTION RIGHT NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND IF, IF I MAY, UH, COUNCILMAN YES. 
          I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT WHATEVER PATH WE GO DOWN TO, IT'LL REQUIRE SOME ADJUSTMENT TO THE MANAGEMENT AND LEASE AGREEMENT, WHETHER THAT BE SIMPLY ADJUSTING THE TIMELINE THAT, THAT THERE'S A HOPE THAT, UH, THE ALAMO PLAN IS ORIGINALLY CONCEIVED, CAN STILL BE IMPLEMENTED, OR IF WE DO SOMETHING ELSE, WHICH WILL BE A DIFFERENT PLAN, UH, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE AMENDED AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, I'LL, I'LL STOP ASKING QUESTIONS THERE AND I'LL, UM, ASK THE REST OFFLINE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          AND, AND JUST, UH, IF WE START GETTING INTO TERRITORY WHERE WE NEED OUR, OUR ATTORNEY GUIDANCE, AND WE WILL HAVE THAT EXECUTIVE SESSION HERE SHORTLY. 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREWS, UH, SULLIVAN, COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. 
          UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, SO UNLIKE COUNCILMAN THE LIFE I'VE ALWAYS BEEN IN AWE OF THE ALAMO. 
          I'M BORN AND RAISED HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          I HAVE ALWAYS LOVED VISITING IT AND ALL THE HISTORIC MISSIONS, UH, I, UM, I'VE NEVER BOUGHT INTO THIS IDEA THAT WE HAVE TO INVEST THIS $450 MILLION TO MAKE IT A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO VISIT. 
          UH, AS I SAID MANY TIMES BEFORE, IT'S ALREADY THE NUMBER ONE TOUR DESTINATION IN THE STATE. 
          WHAT IS IT MORE THAT YOU WANT FOR IT TO BE THE NUMBER ONE TOUR DESTINATION IN THE STATE? AND IF PEOPLE FEEL DISAPPOINTED, IT'S BECAUSE THEY BOUGHT INTO A MYTH, UH, OF WHAT THEY SEE ON TELEVISION, UH, AND WHAT THEY SEE ON TELEVISION IS NOT REALITY. 
          THE REALITY IS THE MISSION WAS A SMALL CHURCH, AND THERE WAS A BATTLE THAT HAPPENED. 
          IT'S A VERY SMALL PIECE OF THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF OUR CITY. 
          UM, I NO SECRET, NO MYSTERY THAT I'VE NEVER WANTED TO ENGAGE IN THIS PLAN. 
          I NEVER WANTED TO PARTICIPATE. 
          I ALWAYS FELT LIKE THE CITY WAS GETTING UNDERHANDED. 
          AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THAT WE WERE GETTING INSULTED OVER AND OVER AGAIN BY THE STATE TELLING US THAT WE WERE NOT GOOD ENOUGH. 
          AND THAT'S 
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WHY THEY HAD TO TAKE OVER AND THEY HAD TO TAKE OVER THE FUNDING, AND THEY HAD TO TAKE OVER THE LEASES BECAUSE WE AS A CITY CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT ON OUR OWN. 
          AND SO I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN VERY OFFENDED BY THE PROPOSAL. 
          UH, I, I KNOW THAT MY COLLEAGUE, UH, COUNCILMAN  WORKED VERY HARD, AND LORI, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS INITIATIVE, UH, BUT MANY TIMES ALONG THE WAY, UM, I WANTED TO CALL IT AND STOP AND SAY, I DON'T LIKE THE WAY THIS IS GOING. 
          THE THE CONSTITUENTS DON'T LIKE IT. 
          THE CLOSING OF THE PLAZA IS TOTALLY UNNECESSARY. 
          THE DROPPING OF IT, THE CLOSING OF THE STREETS, ALL THAT COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY. 
          SO, UM, I, YOU KNOW, I, I, UM, I I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY, UM, JUST WITH THE SORT OF THE LIGHT OF WHERE, WHAT WE'RE SEEING, UM, YOU KNOW, THESE, UH, WHAT, WHAT'S BEEN COMING UP RECENTLY. 
          SO, AND LET ME SEE IF I CAN ASK THE QUESTION, UM, WITHOUT HAVING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT, UM, WHEN WE SIGNED THE LEASE WITH THE G L O, OR MAYBE YOU COULD CLARIFY THAT THE LEASE WAS WITH THE G WAS WITH THE G L O OR THE STATE, OR HOW, WHAT, HOW WAS THAT LEASE ARRANGEMENT CREATED? THE, UH, COUNCILWOMAN THE LEASE IS BETWEEN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND THE GOVERNMENT LAND OFFICE, G L O. 
          THOSE ARE THE TWO PARTIES. 
          AND THE GOVERNMENT LAND OFFICE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REHABILITATION AND THE RESTORATION OF THE LONG BARRACKS IN THE CHURCH. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND SO YOU, ERIC MENTIONED THAT THAT PART IS ONGOING, SO THEY'VE ALREADY CONTRIBUTED TO THAT AND THAT PART'S ALL UNDERWAY. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? AND, AND HOW MUCH HAS THAT INVESTMENT BEEN SO FAR? SO THEY, THEY HAVE, UM, $106 MILLION IN FUNDING, AND THE MAJORITY OF THAT MONEY IS ENCUMBERED AND IS GOING, HAS EITHER GONE TOWARDS THE ACQUISITION OF THOSE THREE BUILDINGS, THE PALACE, WOOLWORTH, AND CROCKETT BUILDING. 
          UM, AND THE REST IS GOING TO THE RESTORATION OF THE CHURCH IN LONG BARRACK AND I BELIEVE, OKAY, WHERE ARE WE IN THE CHURCH OF THE LONG BARRACK? SO RESTORATION. 
          SO THEY'RE PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON DEVELOPING THE PLAN AND DOING THE STUDIES TO LOOK TO, TO SEE WHAT WERE, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THEY HAVE DONE IMAGING, THEY HAVE DONE THE, THE RECORD COLLECTION. 
          THEY'RE LOOKING AT, UM, THE, THE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT WALLS AND THE ARCHEOLOGY. 
          UM, SO IT'S AN ONGOING EFFORT THAT WILL GO WELL THROUGH 2025. 
          SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT, UH, IF THE LEASE, IF WE, UH, DECIDE TO UNWIND THE LEASE, AS YOU SAY, ARE THEY STILL OBLIGATED FOR THAT PORTION OF THE RESTORATION? IF WE, IF, UH, IF THERE'S A DISCUSSION WITH THE, UH, G L O ON UNWINDING THE LEASE, THAT'LL BE, UH, THERE WILL CERTAINLY BE PARTLY PART OF THAT DISCUSSION WOULD BE WHAT WOULD BE THE CONTINUING OBLIGATIONS, UH, OF A WIND DOWN AGREEMENT IF WE, IF WE DO AND EVENTUALLY TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          AND SO THEN ANOTHER, I, I GUESS THAT'S, UM, THIS, SO YOU MENTIONED THAT BEEN ENCUMBERED. 
          COULD YOU JUST CLARIFY EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS? I UNDERSTAND THEY ALREADY PURCHASED THE BUILDINGS, UM, AND THAT WAS, I, I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S PROBABLY OPEN 55 MILLION IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. 
          UM, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THEY SPENT ON THE BUILDINGS AND, UM, BUT THEY HAVE CONTRACT, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE COMMITTED TO PAY CONSULTANTS AND CONTRACTORS FOR THE RESTORATION OF THOSE BUILDINGS. 
          AND SO THAT, THAT MONEY IS COMMITTED ALREADY FOR THAT WORK. 
          OKAY. 
          'CAUSE I, I, I, WELL, THAT, I BETTER JUST LEAVE IT THERE. 
          I JUST, UH, THE, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, SO WHAT IS THE DISCUSSION OF PHIL COMMS MUSEUM AND THEN THAT GOING BEHIND THE OLD BUILDING? I FEEL LIKE THAT WAS NEVER BRIEF. 
          IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THAT WAS NEVER DISCUSSED WITH THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          I MEAN, IS THAT, WAS THAT JUST A RUMOR? WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THAT? ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT THE COLLECTIONS BUILDING? YES. 
          OR THE, THAT I GUESS THE MUSEUM FOR THE COLLECTIONS AT THE PHIL COLLEGE, IT, IT'S ACTUALLY AN OFFICE FOR THE GENERAL LAND OR THE ALAMO TRUST AND, UM, A COLLECTIONS BUILDING FOR THE COLLECTION. 
          IT IS NOT A MUSEUM. 
          UM, AND IT WAS ALWAYS, IT WAS PART OF THE ALAMO PLAN. 
          IT WAS INCLUDED TO SHOW WHERE IT WAS TO LOCATED, BUT IT'S ON THE STATE PROPERTY. 
          AND THE STATE AND THE CITY HAVE ALWAYS TAKEN THE POSITION THAT IF IT'S ON STATE PROPERTY AND THEY'RE COMPLETELY FUNDING THAT EFFORT, THEN THEY'RE, THEY ARE IN CONTROL OF THAT EFFORT, HOWEVER THEY NEED TO COORDINATE. 
          AND 
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SO CITY STAFF DID HAVE A ROLE IN THE SELECTION OF THE CONSULTANT FOR THE COLLECTIONS BUILDING. 
          UM, BUT THE COLLECTIONS BUILDING IS NOT TO REPLACE THE MUSEUM. 
          IT IS TO ACTUALLY SUPPORT THE MUSEUM AND ALSO SERVICE THE OFFICE SPACE FOR THE ALIMO TRUST COUNCIL. 
          COUNCILMAN, YOU'RE MUTED, MA'AM. 
          UH, UH, NOW, I'M SORRY. 
          HOW ABOUT NOW? IS IT GOOD? GOOD. 
          UM, SO THEN WHAT, WHAT, UM, SO DID THAT HAVE TO GO TO THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE? NO, IT DID NOT HAVE TO GO TO THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT, AND WHAT ISN'T THAT PART OF THE PLAN? IT WAS PART OF THE ALAMO PLAN, BUT BECAUSE IT WAS COMPLETELY FUNDED BY THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE AND IT WAS, UM, ON THEIR PROPERTY, IT DID NOT REQUIRE INPUT. 
          THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS TO LOOK AT THE PLAN AND ENSURE THAT THE, ITS IMPLEMENTATION IS IN LINE FOR THE VISION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES, AND THAT IS WHAT'S BEING DONE. 
          THERE IS NO VARIANCE OF THAT. 
          THE ONLY VARIANCE HAPPENED RECENTLY WHEN THE T H C DENIED THE PERMIT. 
          AND, AND IF I COULD ADD SOMETHING REAL QUICK, LORI, AND BECAUSE THERE SEEMS TO BE A CONFUSION ABOUT THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT WAS CREATED UNDER THE COOPERATION AGREEMENT THAT WE EXECUTED, AND, UH, AS LORI SAID, THERE, THERE WERE TO BE AN ADVISORY IN TERMS OF THE WHOLE ALAMO PLAN. 
          THEY'RE NOT A REGULAR BORDER COMMISSION, LIKE OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS UNDER THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          UH, THEY WERE CREATED UNDER THE COOPER AGREEMENT. 
          UM, IF I RECALL, UM, AT THE LAST MINUTE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE AMENDMENTS AND I REQUESTED THAT THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE BE, UH, BE CONSULTED, UH, IF THERE WAS ANY CHANGES OR IF THERE WAS GONNA BE ANY, UH, CHANGES TO THE PLAN. 
          UH, AND I SURE THAT WE ALL AGREE TO THAT. 
          I MEAN, I WAS TRYING TO GET THE FINAL DOCUMENTS OF THE, OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT I APPROVED IN THE LAST PART, BUT, UM, I HAVE NOT SEEN THOSE, UM, AND COUNCILMAN HAVE NOT BEEN ANY CHANGES TO PLAN. 
          SO THAT WHAT WAS, THAT'S WHAT WAS BEING IMPLEMENTED. 
          UM, WE DID BRIEF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE IN OCT OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER, UH, OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER OF 2019. 
          I'LL GET THE ACTUAL DATES ON THE PHASE ONE WORK AND GAVE 'EM AN OVERALL UPDATE OF THE PLAN. 
          UM, THAT WAS THE LAST TIME WE BRIEFED THEM, UM, AS WE WERE MOVING FORWARD WITH IMPLEMENTATION, THEN COVID HIT, BUT THERE WASN'T ANY CHANGE THAT WOULD'VE TRIGGERED US TO GO AND BRIEF THEM ON THE COLLECTIONS BUILDING THAT WAS ALWAYS ENVISIONED. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          SO THEN, UM, ANOTHER QUESTION, UH, JUST SO WHO'S LEFT ON THE ALAMO TRUST, UM, WELCOME WILSON, WHO IS THE CHAIR AND WELCOME. 
          ARE YOU ON THE CALL? UH, YES, I AM. 
          LORI, CAN YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION FOR THE COUNCILWOMAN PLEASE? YEAH, UH, UH, PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY IS STILL ON THE, UH, BOARD OF ALAMO TRUST EXCEPT FOR, UH, JEAN POWELL. 
          UH, THE, THE RESIGNATIONS THAT WERE MENTIONED EARLIER IN THIS SESSION, UH, WERE RELATED TO THE, REMEMBER THE ALAMO FOUNDATION, WHICH WAS TO BE THE FUNDRAISING, UH, ENTITY FOR RAISING THE MONEY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE TRUST STILL EXISTS. 
          AND SO, I MEAN, UH, LORI MENTIONED THAT WE STILL HAD COMMITTED PARTNERS. 
          UM, ARE YOU ALL STILL A COMMITTED PARTNER? OH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, ALAMO TRUST IS COMMITTED TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND O TO PURSUE AND IMPLEMENT A PLANNED, UM, WHAT'S JUST NOT COMMITTED IS THE FUNDRAISING PIECE. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          IT'S NOT, WELL, THERE'S NO, OKAY. 
          I HAVE, WELL, THERE'S STILL A, THERE'S STILL A COMMITMENT FOR FUNDRAISING, BUT THERE, AS OF RIGHT NOW, THERE IS NO, NO AGREED PLAN TO RAISE FUNDS FOR. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. 
          OKAY. 
          I HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS THERE. 
          I'LL CHIME BACK IN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          AND I WANNA THANK, UH, COUNCILMAN ELIAS FOR NOT TAKING MY NAME IN VAIN. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, THIS PROJECT IS CERTAINLY IMPORTANT TO THIS COMMUNITY, AND I BELIEVE ALL OF US UNDERSTAND THAT THE, THE ALAMO NEEDS TO BE PROTECTED AND ENHANCED AS A, A WAY OF EXPANDING THE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY AND AND OF TEXAS. 
          AND I RECOGNIZE IT, IT'S A HUGE DRAW TO THIS WHOLE STATE AND, AND TO OUR COMMUNITY. 
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BUT I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN TO A POINT IN TIME WHERE WE NEED TO HAVE SOME FRESH EYES AND FRESH VOICES, UH, OVERSEEING MORE OF THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION IN THIS PROGRAM. 
          AND MAYBE FROM OTHER THAN THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION, UH, I THINK WE NEED TO AMEND OR GET OUT OF THE G L O AGREEMENT SO THAT WE HAVE THE KIND OF CONTROL WE NEED TO PROTECT THE INTEREST OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE ENTIRE, UH, GROUP OF PEOPLE COMMITTED TO HELPING THE ALAMO. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR CITY COUNCIL AND OUR CITY STAFF LEADERSHIP ON THE, UH, MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE, EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, UH, WITHIN THE ALAMO ADVISORY GROUP. 
          UH, AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND RECONFIGURE THE, UH, ALAMO CITIZENS ADVISORY GROUP. 
          I THINK, UH, AGAIN, FRESH EYES, FRESH VOICES ARE NEEDED. 
          AND I THINK THE GREATEST REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE WE NEVER CAME UP WITH A PLAN B. 
          AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, I, I THINK I KNEW A YEAR AGO IT WAS GONNA BE HARD TO MOVE THE SENATE, AND I THINK ALL OF US RECOGNIZED SIX MONTHS AGO THAT IT SIMPLY WAS LIKELY NOT TO OCCUR. 
          AND TO NOT HAVE SAT DOWN AND COME UP WITH A PLAN B, UH, I THINK SHOWS THAT THERE'S TOO MUCH TUNNEL VISION ON WHERE THIS PROJECT, UH, HAS BEEN GOING AND IS GOING, UNDOUBTEDLY, WE NEED TO, UH, REHABILITATE AND RESTORE THE CHAPEL AND THE LONG BARRACKS, INCLUDING ADDING A SECOND LEVEL BACK IN THERE. 
          WE NEED TO REHABILITATE AND RESTORE THE T IN ITS PLACE. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND BUILD A WORLD CLASS MUSEUM TO TELL THE WHOLE STORY, BUT THAT INCLUDES INCORPORATING THE WOOLWORTH AND CROCKETT BUILDINGS. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO RELOCATE THE AMUSEMENTS THAT ARE SURROUNDING THE ALAMO TO A DESIGNATED AREA AND REPLACE THEM WITH MORE AUTHENTIC THEMED BUSINESSES TO SUPPORT THE CONCEPT. 
          I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT RECREATING THE PLAZA THE WAY IT WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, 200 YEARS AGO. 
          WELL, IF THAT MEANS RESURFACING ALAMO PLAZA, REMOVING THE TREES, THE DIFFERENT LEVELS THAT EXIST, I, I COULD PROBABLY UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S NECESSARY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE NEVER GOING TO RECREATE THE OFFICIAL, THE ORIGINAL GROUNDS THERE. 
          THERE'S ALREADY BUILDINGS THERE. 
          NOW, CAN WE, CAN WE MASK SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS TO SHOW WHAT IT MIGHT'VE BEEN LIKE YEARS AGO? LIKE WE PUT ADD MASKS OVER BUSES, YOU KNOW, CAN WE DO THINGS TO, TO ENHANCE THE VISIBILITY OF WHAT IT MAY HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST? YES. 
          BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA RECREATE THE PLAZA. 
          UH, I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT ALSO TO CREATE SOME KIND OF A CONTINUING SAFE SURFACE UNDERWEAR. 
          ALAMO STREET IS TODAY, IF WE DO ANYTHING TO REDO ALAMO STREET, THAT WOULD CONTINUE TO ENABLE US TO USE THE ORIGINAL GROUNDS FOR THE PARADES AND THE CELEBRATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR YEARS AND YEARS. 
          MAYBE WE BLOCK TRAFFIC. 
          BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO PERPETUALLY BLOCK THOSE AREAS FROM BEING USED THE WAY THIS COMMUNITY HAS LOVED THEM BEING USED FOR SO LONG. 
          I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE PUTTING A FENCE AROUND IT. 
          EVEN IF IT'S A FENCE MADE OUT BUSHES, AGAIN, IT SHOULD REMAIN A PUBLIC PLAZA, BUT THAT DOESN'T PROHIBIT A MUSEUM FROM GOING OUT INTO THAT PLAZA AND DOING, UH, REENACTMENTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT OCCURRED OVER TIME. 
          I THINK ALL OF THESE VIEWS OF MINE HAVE, UH, A PLACE IN THE FUTURE CONSIDERATION OF WHERE WE GO WITH A PLAN B. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK NEW EYES, NEW VOICES, NEW LEADERSHIP, NEW DIRECTION IS NEEDED. 
          AND IT'S NOT TO SAY WE ARE GOING TO GIVE UP WITH ANY OF OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES. 
          WE CAN STILL TELL THE WHOLE STORY. 
          WE CAN MAINTAIN ACCESSIBILITY, ENHANCE THE VISITOR EXPERIENCE, HAVE MORE CONNECTIVITY AND BALANCE, CONTINUE THE HISTORY THROUGHOUT SAN ANTONIO. 
          AND I THINK IT'S GONNA TAKE THOUGH BETTER UNIFIED LEADERSHIP TO GET THIS DONE AND TO MAKE SURE WE PRESERVE AND INTERPRET THE ENTIRE ALAMO. 
          WELL, I THINK ALL OF THIS COULD BE DONE, BUT WE DEFINITELY NEED SOME CHANGES TO GET IT DONE. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. 
          COUNCIL 
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MEMBER PERRY. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          WELL, UH, WOW, COUNCILMAN COURAGE. 
          YOU TOOK THE WORDS RIGHT OUTTA MY MOUTH. 
          I AGREE WITH YOU 100%. 
          AND I THINK I COVERED EVERY ONE OF THOSE TOPICS THE LAST TIME THIS CAME UP WHEN WE HAD A COUNCIL VOTE, WHICH WAS NINE TO TWO. 
          YOU AND I WERE THE ONLY ONES THAT VOTED AGAINST THIS. 
          AND I STILL STAND BY EVERYTHING I SAID BACK THEN, EVERYTHING YOU SAID JUST NOW. 
          AND, UM, I HAVE THE SAME FEELINGS. 
          PLUS I THINK THE MAJORITY OF TEXANS THAT HAVE SPOKEN OUT, NOT JUST ON THE SYNTA, BUT AGAINST THIS ENTIRE PLAN. 
          UH, I WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY AT THAT, UM, TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION, THERE WERE 26,000 PEOPLE THAT VOICED THEIR OPPOSITION TO MOVING THE SENATE TAB. 
          ONLY 1600 VOICED THEIR APPROVAL. 
          THEY LISTENED. 
          AND WHEN WE SAT IN THAT COUNCIL CHAMBER TIME AND TIME AGAIN, THAT WE HAD CITIZENS COMING UP AND COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS PLAN AND MOVING THE CTA, WE DIDN'T LISTEN ON THE COUNCIL. 
          AND NOW LOOK WHERE WE'RE AT. 
          THAT CTA DIDN'T GET APPROVED AND THERE'S NO PLAN B. 
          AND HERE WE ARE SITTING HERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, OKAY, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO NOW? WHO, WHO ARE WE GONNA, WHO ARE WE GONNA PLEASE? WHO ARE WE GONNA MAKE UNHAPPY? YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA GO BACK TO SOME INITIAL COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE. 
          I TOTALLY AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ. 
          IF YOU WALK ON THAT SITE AND LOOK AT THE , GO THROUGH LONG BARRACKS, GO THROUGH THE CHAPEL, GO AROUND THE GROUNDS AND FEEL WHAT HAPPENED BACK IN 1836, THERE'S NO WAY THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY AWE IN INSPIRATION ABOUT THAT BATTLEGROUND. 
          AND I'M PERSONALLY OFFENDED ABOUT PEOPLE COMING IN AND SAYING, HEY, IS THAT ALL THIS TO IT? EVERY YEAR WE GET MORE AND MORE VISITORS TO THIS SITE BECAUSE OF THAT BATTLE. 
          AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES AT THE LAST ELECTION, OR NOT ELECTION, BUT LAST TIME WE VOTED ON THIS, SAID, HEY, I'M NOT FROM TEXAS. 
          I REALLY DON'T CARE. 
          AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF THE ATTITUDE THAT WE HAVE ON A LOT OF PEOPLE TO INCLUDE AT THE G L O LEVEL. 
          NOT BEING FROM TEXAS NEVER STUDIED TEXAS HISTORY AND WAS NOT ABLE TO WALK ON THOSE GROUNDS, REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT HAPPENED THERE ALONG WITH THE SYNTA TO RECOGNIZE THOSE PEOPLE THAT DIED ON THAT DAY OR ACROSS THOSE 13 DAYS AND 1836 IN MARCH. 
          SO THIS REALLY, MAN, MY BLOOD STARTS  TO GET TO BOIL. 
          WHEN I HEAR WORDS LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS WHOLE MISSION, THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T EVEN BE HERE TODAY HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR CLARA DRISCOLL AND THE DAUGHTERS OF THE REPUBLIC TO SAVE THAT BUILDING. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY ACTUALLY BOUGHT IT TO KEEP IT FROM BEING DEMOLISHED. 
          SO IT WAS BECAUSE OF THAT BATTLE THAT PEOPLE COME HERE, NOW WE CAN, WE CAN GO BACK AND EXPRESS OTHER HISTORY AND THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE DEAL WITHOUT DIMINISHING THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT BATTLE OF 1836. 
          BUT PEOPLE AREN'T COMING DOWN TO THE ALAMO TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THIS WHOLE SITE IS WANTING TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE HISTORY. 
          THEY'RE THERE PRIMARILY FOR THAT BATTLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DIED DEFENDING THAT ALAMO. 
          SO I JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY THAT YES, THIS IS THE MOST VISITED SITE IN TEXAS AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE THAT WAY UNLESS WE SCREW IT UP BY PUTTING A FENCE AROUND THE, THE, THE WHOLE AREA RESTRICTING ACCESS. 
          YOU GO DOWN THERE EVERY DAY, LIKE TODAY, I BET YOU CAN GO DOWN THERE AND THERE'S HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE MILLING ABOUT ENJOYING THAT WHOLE PLAZA AS WHAT WAS ENVISIONED BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WHEN THEY DONATED IT TO THE CITY. 
          KEEPING IT AN OPEN PLAZA, FENCING IT OFF IS NOT KEEPING IT AN OPEN PLAZA. 
          YOU KNOW, IF IT WERE UP TO ME, I'D WIND DOWN THAT WHOLE AGREEMENT AND MAKE THE STATE MAINTAIN THE CHAPEL IN LONG, LONG 
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BARRACKS. 
          IT'S THEIR FACILITIES. 
          RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          ANDY, THEY OWN THE BUILDINGS. 
          THEY OWN THOSE. 
          YES, THEY OWN THOSE. 
          THEY'RE IN CONTROL OF THOSE. 
          SO THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF REHABBING THOSE FACILITIES. 
          AND THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE LIKE TAKING THAT HEAVY CONCRETE ROOF OFF THE CHAPEL TO TAKE OFF SOME OF THE WEIGHT AND STRESS ON THE WALLS. 
          UM, THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT DIGGING OUT THAT WHOLE ENTIRE AREA, PERHAPS TAKING OUT THE TREES AND ALL THE FOLIAGE THAT'S THERE NOW, YOU KNOW, JUST GOING ON AND ON AND ON. 
          AND THIS, THIS MUSEUM, YES, A MUSEUM CAN BE BUILT, BUT WE CAN ADAPTIVE, WE CAN, WE CAN ADAPT THOSE EXISTING BUILDINGS THERE INTO A MUSEUM. 
          YOU KNOW, I GOT A LETTER FROM THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY SAYING, DO NOT TEAR THOSE BUILDINGS DOWN. 
          THEY CAN BE REUSED FOR A MUSEUM. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'LL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA MONEY TO LEVEL OUT THE FLOORS. 
          MAKE MAKING SURE THAT, LEMME TELL YOU, I'VE BEEN AROUND THIS WORLD IN EUROPE. 
          THEY HAVE DONE WONDERFUL JOBS OF REUSING FACILITIES THAT ARE NEXT TO EACH OTHER, YOU KNOW, WITH, UM, NOT STAIRCASES, BUT RAMPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO, UH, ALLOW FOR ALL OF, ALL ACCESS FOR DISABLED AND PEOPLE THAT AREN'T DISABLED. 
          I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF MONEY HERE THAT CAN BE USED IF IT'S RAISED TO DO THAT IN THE EXISTING FACILITIES. 
          WE DON'T NEED TO TEAR IT DOWN AND BUILD ANOTHER BRAND NEW FACILITY UP THERE. 
          AND SPEAKING OF WHICH, THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT THERE, THEY WERE ALWAYS SUPPOSED TO BE A PART OF THIS ENTIRE PLAN, MOVING THEM AND SETTING THEM UP, SHOP SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          WHERE, WHERE IS THAT TODAY, LORI COUNCILMAN? WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT SINCE DAY ONE. 
          AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE STOPPED HAVING DISCUSSIONS BECAUSE, UH, IN IS TALKING TO RIPLEY'S AND THE FRANCHISE OPERATOR, THEIR PREFERENCE IS TO STAY WHERE THEY ARE. 
          SO WE NEED TO SEE HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. 
          AND IF THE  WASN'T MOVED, THEN WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO THE MUSEUM. 
          SO POTENTIALLY THEY COULD STAY THERE. 
          THERE ALSO COULD BE AN OPTION WHERE THEY'RE RELOCATED TO A BUILDING DOWN THE STREET. 
          WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL THOSE THINGS, BUT NOTHING CAN BE DECIDED UNTIL WE COULD DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE SENATE TAP COULD MOVE. 
          AND WE SHARED THAT WITH RIPLEY'S AND THE FRANCHISE OPERATOR. 
          WELL, UM, THANK YOU, LAURA. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS AND COUNSEL. 
          BUT WE ARE STOPPED NOW WITH THE SYNTA ISSUE AND IT'S GONNA STAY THERE, WHICH I WAS ONE OF THE SUPPORTERS FOR IT TO STAY THERE, ALONG WITH THE 26,000 OTHER PEOPLE THAT DID. 
          SO WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT, OKAY, WHERE ARE WE GONNA GO FROM HERE? AND, UM, I AGREE 100% WITH COUNCILMAN COURAGE. 
          WE NEED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES. 
          ALSO, TAKE A LOOK AT THE, AT WHO'S BEEN APPOINTED TO WHAT COMMITTEES, THAT KIND OF THING. 
          UM, BUT JUST TO, YOU KNOW, I, I SEE THIS AS A, I GUESS I'LL JUST SAY IT, AN ARROGANCE, IF YOU WILL, THAT THIS IS A WAY THIS IS GONNA ROLL OUT. 
          THIS IS THE WAY IT'S GONNA BE DONE. 
          AND THERE WASN'T ANY , ANY OTHER PLANS OTHER THAN THAT. 
          AND THEN FOR EVERYBODY TO SAY, WELL, THE SENATE TIME'S MOVING THE PLAN IS OUT THE WINDOW, I, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT'S NOT THE WAY TO, THAT'S NOT THE WAY TO GO ON THIS. 
          WE NEED TO BE, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBLE AND LISTEN TO THESE OTHER SIDES OF THE STORY. 
          AGAIN, FENCING OFF THE PLAZA, REUSING THOSE BUILDINGS FOR A MUSEUM. 
          LET'S CONCENTRATE ON THE CHURCH AND LONG BARRACKS, PROTECT THOSE FACILITIES AND LEAVE THE SENATE HALF WHERE IT'S AT AND WORK AROUND THESE OTHER ISSUES, SOME BY SOME WAY. 
          SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. 
          LIKE I SAID, I THINK THAT EVERY TIME I GO DOWN THERE, I THINK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED THERE IN 1836, AND I AM IN AWE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AND THE SACRIFICE THAT WAS MADE. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ELIAS. 
          THANKS. 
          JUST, UH, I FORGOT TO MENTION EARLIER, AND COUNCILMAN PERRY, UH, COVERED IT VERY WELL. 
          UM, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO THE BUSINESSES WHO, 
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UM, SURROUND THE ALAMO. 
          UM, AND I'M, I'M THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS. 
          WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF RESTAURANTS AND BARS AND SMALL OFFICES AND LARGE OFFICES AND ARTISTS AND EVERYTHING. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY IS THE ONE THAT'S BEEN KICKED IN THE GUT. 
          UM, AND, YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR MOVE, YOU KNOW, CHESS MOVES AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING OUT THERE AT THE ALAMO OF, IN ESSENCE, SHUT THEM DOWN. 
          UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I GOT TO VISIT WITH DAVIS PHILLIPS, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AFTER TALKING TO HIM, IT, IT'S CLEAR TO ME THAT PEOPLE DON'T JUST GO TO THAT PLAZA TO VISIT THE ALAMO. 
          THEY GO TO THAT PLAZA TO VISIT, YOU KNOW, HIS ESTABLISHMENTS, UM, AND THEY HA ARE IN PART RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SUCCESS OF THAT, THAT PLAZA. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE ENTERTAINED MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, BEEN A PART OF DOWNTOWN'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND LEFT, YOU KNOW, UM, A LOT OF MEMORIES FOR FOLKS, UH, IN THEIR MIND, UH, OF GOOD TIMES IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          SO I THINK IT, IT WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE FOR US TO IGNORE, UH, THOSE CONTRIBUTIONS. 
          AND SO, LORI, ERIC, ANYBODY REALLY, UM, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY WANT TO BE THERE, BUT YOU KNOW, IN MY CONVERSATION WITH 'EM YESTERDAY, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THIS IDEA OF AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT IS STILL VERY MUCH AN, UM, AN IDEA THAT SOUNDS LIKE THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE ANY IMPEDIMENTS IN OUR WAY, UH, TO HAVING THAT CONVERSATION? UM, NOW, AS OPPOSED TO WAITING FOR SOME SORT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, END TO THIS ALAMO DEBATE, COUNCILMAN, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS AND WE'VE EVEN ASKED THEM TO HELP US IDENTIFY AREAS THEY'D LIKE TO GO TO. 
          OKAY. 
          AREAS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED HAVE NOT WORKED OUT, UM, FOR NUMEROUS REASONS. 
          AND THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER BIG PARTNER IN HERE, AND THAT'S RIPLEY'S CORPORATE, RIGHT? IT'S NOT JUST THE, UM, DAVIS PHILLIPS AND OTHERS. 
          AND SO WE NEED TO DO THIS IN PARTNERSHIP AND, UM, WE HAVE COMMUNICATED TO THIS, THIS, TO THOSE PARTNERS, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO. 
          BUT IF THERE ARE IDEAS THEY HAVE AND AREAS THEY'D LIKE US TO LOOK AT, WE ARE TOTALLY OPEN TO THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          I, I, I GOT IT. 
          THANK YOU, LAURIE. 
          AND, AND AGAIN, UM, I THINK I WOULDN'T BE DOING MY JOB IF I DIDN'T, THAT, YOU KNOW, THE EMPLOYEES THAT THEY'VE HAD TO LAY OFF ARE HOURLY EMPLOYEES WHO LIVE IN APARTMENTS WHO ARE GETTING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE FOOD BANK SERVICES AND WHO ARE ALSO, YOU KNOW, GETTING EVICTED FROM THEIR APARTMENTS. 
          AND SO, UH, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO 'EM AS WELL. 
          AND I APPRECIATE YOU STAYING ENGAGED IN LORI. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. 
          THANKS, MAYOR. 
          THOSE WERE MY COMMENTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ELA, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER VERAN. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU, UH, LORI, FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          AND, UH, I'M, I HAVE TO SAY THIS BECAUSE, UM, YES, I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE DAUGHTERS OF THE REPUBLIC OF TEXAS, BUT COUNCIL MEMBER, I WOULD SAY THOSE BUILDINGS WOULDN'T BE THERE, BUT FOR THE NATIVE AMERICANS AND THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE WHO HAD TO BUILD THEM, SO LET'S, UH, AND THAT'S PART OF THE CONTINUUM OF CONVERSATION THAT WE, WE NEED TO, TO HAVE. 
          SO, UM, HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD FROM HERE? HOW DO WE, UM, BUILD UP THE, UM, TRUST AND THE LACK OF CONFIDENCE THAT PEOPLE HAVE IN WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE? AND, UM, THAT IS WHERE WE NEED TO GO FROM HERE. 
          AND WHAT I UNDERSTAND, LORI, IS THAT ALL PARTIES ARE STILL IN AGREEMENT WITH THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. 
          COUNCILWOMAN, THANK YOU. 
          ALL PARTIES ARE COMMITTED TO THE VISION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND, UM, ONE THING I, I WOULD LIKE TO, TO ASK LORI, 'CAUSE IT WASN'T INCLUDED OR THE, THE COOPERATIVE, COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT WAS WITH THE DIFFERENT GROUPS, BUT THE NAMES. 
          SO ON SLIDE FIVE, THIS LITTLE PIECE OF PAPER HERE, I'D LIKE TO KNOW ALL OF THE NAMES OF THE PEOPLE. 
          IF YOU COULD PROVIDE ALL OF THE NAMES WHO SIT IN ALL OF THESE COMMITTEES, MAKE THAT AVAILABLE FOR US. 
          AND THEN, UM, IN THE ALAMO CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, YOU GAVE ME AN UPDATE YESTERDAY OR THE DAY BEFORE, AND IT HAD SOME VACANCIES IN HERE FOR DISTRICTS SIX, EIGHT, AND 10. 
          UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE MOST UP TO DATE, SO PLEASE. 
          'CAUSE I, I DID HEAR MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUE TALK ABOUT, UH, JOSE MARIA GONZALEZ, WHO IS ALSO HIS APPOINTEE. 
          SO IF WE CAN GET THE MOST UP TO DATE, I'D APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, AND IS ANYONE FROM THE ALAMO ADVISORY GROUP, THE CITIZEN ALAMO ADVISED CITIZENS GROUP ON THE CALL? NO. 
          WE HAVE, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER ROBERTO TNO, WHO IS THE CHAIR OF THE CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          AND YOU CAN ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I'D LIKE TO TALK TO SOME OF THE 
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MEMBERS OF THE ALAMO ADVISORY COMMITTEE BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN SHARING WITH SOME, UH, ISSUES THAT THEY'VE BEEN HAVING. 
          BUT SINCE THEY'RE NOT ON THE CALL, I DO WANNA GO STRAIGHT TO THE CONVERSATION OF, UM, THE MONEY. 
          AND SO WE HAVE 7.3 MILLION IN THE, IN THE, WELL, WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 21 MILLION FROM THE BOND AND 7.3 MILLION WERE FOR TREES AND LANDSCAPING OR UNDER THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. 
          AND THEN WE HAD, UM, 13.73 MILLION IN THE STREETS. 
          SO THAT 21 MILLION OF BOND WE NEED TO GET MOVING AND WE NEED TO HAVE IT WITHIN THE SCOPE. 
          NOW, I KNOW THAT THE SCOPE WITHIN THE BOND, UH, WAS VERY BROAD BECAUSE IT LAYERED WITH THE ALAMO MASTER PLAN. 
          AND IN THE ALAMO MASTER PLAN, IT TALKED ABOUT CLOSING, UM, THE STREETS, UH, LANDSCAPING AROUND THE AREA, MOVING THE BANDSTAND. 
          NOW THE BANDSTAND IS NO LONGER THERE. 
          UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, IN OUR LIST OF, OF ITEMS THAT WE HAVE TO USE THIS BOND MONEY FOR, WHAT WILL IT BE? 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO EXPEND IT. 
          IF IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSING THE STREET, NOT CLOSING THE STREET, BUT JUST ENHANCING THE STREET MORE. 
          I'M, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT AS A, AS A COUNCIL, IF WE'RE GOING TO UNWIND THIS AGREEMENT, IF WE'RE NOT. 
          AND IF WE'RE NOT, THEN HOW ARE WE GONNA MOVE FORWARD SO WE CAN USE THESE BOND DOLLARS. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE $17 MILLION IN CVOS IN THE BUDGET. 
          SO THIS MONEY HAS BEEN COMMITTED SINCE WHEN, IN OUR BUDGET, SINCE, UM, 2015. 
          AND HOW MUCH OF OUR CFOS OF OUR BUDGET HAVE WE USED? SO THE MONEY WAS COMMITTED IN 2015, WE HAVE, UM, A TOTAL OF $38 MILLION. 
          AND ALL OF THAT MONEY WAS TO GO TOWARDS THE ALAMO PLAN. 
          SO THE ALAMO PLAN WASN'T ADOPTED UNTIL 2018. 
          SO WE, WE HAVE NOT SPENT A LOT OF THE MONEY YET 'CAUSE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO TOWARDS PHASE ONE OF THE ALAMO PLAZA AND OTHER STUDIES. 
          SO I CAN GET YOU A BREAKDOWN OF HOW MUCH HAS BEEN SPENT, BUT FOR PHASE ONE, WE'VE ONLY SPENT ABOUT $5 MILLION. 
          AND THAT WAS FOR UTILITIES, UM, THE ACTUAL RELOCATION OF THE GAZEBO, UM, AND OTHER ENGINEERING AND DESIGN WORK. 
          AND, BUT WE'LL NOT BE SPENDING ANY MORE MONEY ON THAT UNTIL WE DECIDE HOW TO PROCEED. 
          WHETHER THAT'S A REDESIGN OF THE PLAZA, UM, OR A COMPLETE STOP OF THE PROJECT, WE CAN DECIDE HOW TO PROCEED. 
          SO THEN THE BOND MONEY WOULD NECESSARILY, WOULD HAVE TO BE THE FIRST MONEY TO, WE WOULD HAVE TO USE ON THIS ALAMO PLAN, ON THE ALAMO MASTER PLAN, BECAUSE THAT'S MONEY THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO USE AND THE C OF OS CAN STAY IN OUR BUDGET. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? YES. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE TO EXPEND THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UM, FOR THAT. 
          AND SO, UM, REMIND ME, I KNOW WE HAD THE STATE DESIGNATE SOME DOLLARS, BUT IS THAT, ARE THOSE DOLLARS STILL EVEN ALIVE? YES. 
          AND SO THE STATE HAS, UM, THE, IN THE PAST TWO AND TWO PREVIOUS LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS, THEY'VE DONE $106 MILLION. 
          AND THAT MONEY MAINLY FOR THE, THE ALAMO, THE SHRINE, AND THE LONG BARRACKS AND THE , THE ACTUAL PURCHASE OF THOSE THREE BUILDINGS, THE CROCKETT PALACE AND WOOLWORTH BUILDING, AND THEN THE RESTORATION EFFORTS FOR THE CHURCH AND THE LONG BARRACK MM-HMM. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          AND, BUT ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE LONG BARRACKS AND THE CHURCH, THAT IS ALL THE STATE'S MONEY? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THE BALLOT, THE BALLARDS BOLLARDS THAT ARE BEING PUT IN RIGHT NOW, SECURITY ONES, UM, IS, THAT'S THE STATE MONEY AS WELL, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          AND, UH, FINALLY, OR ADDITIONALLY, THE, UM, I THINK WITHOUT MOVING THE SENATE HALF AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE DOCUMENTS THAT I READ, THE, UM, SENATE TAP WOULD HAVE TO BE RE UM, REPLACED AND OR STABILIZED THERE ON SITE AT THE SITE. 
          AND UM, THEN WE WOULD ALSO NEED IT TO, SO IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THERE ON SITE, CORRECT? ARE YOU ASKING, YOU ASKING IF WE WERE TO REPAIR THE S TAF, HOW WE WERE PROPOSING TO DO IT, UM, IF WE REPAIR THE S TAF, WOULD IT HAVE TO BE DONE RIGHT THERE ON THE SITE? THAT'S WHAT WE WERE, WE WERE PROPOSING TO DO IT ON SITE. 
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OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, SO NOW I THINK A LOT OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED SIMPLY BECAUSE, UM, WELL IN MY, IN MY THOUGHT PROCESS, BECAUSE NOW WILL WE STILL BE ABLE TO LOWER THE GROUND IN FRONT OF THE, IN FRONT OF THE, THE CHURCH? ARE WE GOING TO BE, WHY ARE WE GOING TO NEED SECURITY ENTRANCE POINTS ANYMORE? SINCE WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY HAVING A FOCAL AREA? I KNOW WE FOUGHT SO HARD IN OUR AGREEMENT TO GET CERTAIN DAYS THAT THE WALLS WOULD BE OPEN TO HAVE IT FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT NOW DOES THIS CHANGE IT, UM, THAT IT WOULD ALWAYS BE OPEN ONCE AGAIN? UH, SO THESE ARE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE, UH, ABOUT THIS PROJECT BECAUSE IT COULD BE ENHANCED EVEN MORE, UM, IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE CERTAIN ENTRANCE AREAS IN THAT, IN THE ORIGINAL ALAMO MASTER PLAN. 
          SO, UM, THAT IS CORRECT, COUNSEL. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN, UM, IN MY FINAL MINUTES, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, UM, AND SPECIFICALLY UNDER THE, UH, THE SECOND TO LAST BULLET POINT, EMBRACE THE CONTINUUM OF HISTORY TO FOSTER UNDERSTANDING AND HEALING. 
          UH, WHAT HAS BEEN SO IMPORTANT FOR ME AND IS THE TELLING OF THE STORY OF NOT, OF THE CONTINUUM WITH THE INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES, WITH OUR, WITH OUR INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES BEING A PART OF IT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE ARE MORE, UM, BONES OR REMAINS THAT ARE FOUND IN AND AROUND THE AREA, BUT ALSO, UM, TO WHAT THE PHENOMENAL ANETTE APPEARS. 
          NICOLE, IN HER LETTER THAT SHE SENT TO THE, UM, TO THE EDITORS AND TALKING ABOUT THE A AND I QUOTE HER, THE ALAMO IS A POWERFUL LANDMARK IN TEXAS HISTORY, AND ALONG WITH THE OTHER FOUR, SAN ANTONIO MISSIONS IS A UNESCO DESIGNATED WORLD HERITAGE SITE. 
          EVERYONE, NOT JUST AFRICAN-AMERICANS, DESERVE TO KNOW ALL THE STORY, INCLUDING THE ROLE OF SLAVERY AND AMERICANS IN HELPING TO BUILD THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          AS MAYA ANGELOU WROTE, HISTORY, DESPITE ITS WRENCHING PAIN CANNOT BE UNLIVED, BUT IT'S FACED WITH COURAGE NEED NOT BE LIVED AGAIN. 
          SO I DID WANT TO SAY HER WORDS HERE, BUT ALSO RE REMIND EVERYONE. 
          I BELIEVE WE ONLY HAVE ONE AFRICAN AMERICAN REPRESENTED ON THE ALAMO ADVISORY COMMITTEE AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER VIRON AND COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? THANK YOU. 
          UM, THANK YOU COUNCILMAN TRIVIO AND LORI AND STAFF FOR YOUR LONG, LONG WORK ON THIS. 
          UM, I KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S, UH, WE'RE NEVER GOING TO TO GET THERE, BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR, FOR DILIGENCE, UH, CONTINUING YOUR WORK ON THIS. 
          UM, I THINK, UH, IN RETROSPECT, UH, WHEN WE SAW ALL OF THAT OPPOSITION TO THE MOVING OF THE SENATE, HALF LIKE COUNCILMAN PERRY SAID, UH, OR REMINDED US OF, UM, IT, IT SEEMS ALMOST NAIVE THAT I DIDN'T THINK THAT THERE WOULD BE A POLITICAL BATTLE, UH, WHEN IT CAME TO ACTUALLY MOVING THE SENATE HALF. 
          UM, UM, SO, UH, THAT, THAT THERE WOULD BE THAT POLITICAL ROADBLOCK. 
          UH, SO I AM OF COURSE DISAPPOINTED, UH, LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE'S THAT, THAT WE'RE HERE IN THIS PROCESS. 
          UM, AND TO, TO COUNCILMAN GONZALEZ'S POINT AND COUNCILMAN PERRY'S POINT ABOUT WHAT YOU FEEL WHEN YOU GO TO THE ALAMO, I THINK, UH, THE COUNCIL, I THINK, UH, THE COUNCIL WOMAN'S RIGHT, PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE BECAUSE THEY THINK THE, THE BATTLE OF 1836 WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE WHAT'S DRIVING THEM HERE. 
          UM, BUT WHEN THEY GET HERE, I STILL BELIEVE THAT THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THEM HOW MUCH MORE, UH, WE HAVE TO OFFER. 
          AND WHEN THEY WALK AWAY DISAPPOINTED, I DON'T WANT THEM TO WALK AWAY DISAPPOINTED IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          AND ULTIMATELY, I THINK THAT'S THE FEELING THEY TAKE AWAY. 
          FOR ANY OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN TO ALCATRAZ, IT'S, UH, SOMETHING THAT, UM, NOT EXACTLY LIKE THE ALAMO OBVIOUSLY, BUT ALSO DRAWS A HUGE, UH, TOURIST CROWD. 
          BUT THAT'S A TOUR. 
          YOU GO BACK TO OVER AND OVER AGAIN. 
          WHEN MY FAMILY WOULD COME VISIT ME IN THE YEARS THAT I LIVED THERE, I DIDN'T LIVE ON ALCATRAZ, BUT NEARBY ON, ON THE MAINLAND AND THE YEARS THAT I, THAT I LIVED THERE, UM, WHEN THEY WOULD COME VISIT, THEY'D SAY, OH, LET'S GO TO ALCATRAZ AGAIN. 
          LET'S GO TO ALCATRAZ AGAIN. 
          AND EVEN THOUGH YOU'D HEARD STORIES ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER THOSE CRIMINALS WERE, WHO, WHO ESCAPED WHEN YOU GOT THERE AND 
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YOU USED THE TECHNOLOGY AND YOU DID THE TOUR, AND YOU WALKED THROUGH THE CELLS, YOU FELT, UH, LIKE YOU WERE TRANSPORTED IN A DIFFERENT PLACE AND YOU LEARNED MORE ABOUT THE HISTORY OF, YOU KNOW, BEING IN A PRISON OR, UM, OF THE OTHER, UH, PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE THAT YOU MAY HAVE NEVER HEARD ABOUT. 
          UM, SO I, I THINK THE ALAMO AND THE PLAZA ITSELF HAVE THAT POSSIBILITY. 
          SO I STILL BELIEVE IN THE IDEA OF DOING SOMETHING, UM, AT THE ALAMO. 
          UM, BUT I ALSO BELIEVE IN TELLING THE WHOLE STORY. 
          AND I THINK, UM, RIGHT NOW THE SENATE HALF IS SORT OF, IT'S OBSCURING THE ALAMO, FIGURATIVELY SPEAKING, BUT, BUT ALSO LITERALLY  RIGHT? IN A WAY THAT, UH, WHEN I, WHEN I FIRST, UH, CAME ON COUNCIL, WE HAD SO MANY CITIZENS SIGN UP TO SPEAK FOR CITIZENS TO BE HEARD, AND WE HAD TEXAS FREEDOM FORCE HERE. 
          UM, THE GUY, UH, WITH HIS, THE GUY WHO BROUGHT HIS DOG A LOT, DO YOU REMEMBER? AND, AND LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO CAME TO TALK ABOUT NOT MOVING THE SENATE HALF. 
          AND IT WAS, UM, THERE WAS SOMETHING VERY BEAUTIFUL ABOUT THAT, THAT IT WAS SACRED TO THEM, THAT THEY HAD ANCESTORS WHO, THAT REMEMBERED WHO, WHO WHOM THAT HONORED. 
          AND I, AND I FELT THAT THAT WAS, UM, THAT SHOULD BE RESPECTED AS WELL. 
          UH, BUT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE WHOLE PROJECT, IT SEEMS LIKE THE SENATE TAP IS DRIVING THE PROJECT INSTEAD OF THE ALAMO DRIVING THE PROJECT. 
          AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE PEOPLE WHO DIED THERE, ARE WE, IS THIS ABOUT REMEMBERING IS THE SENATE HALF MORE IMPORTANT THAN WHAT THEY DIED FOR? AND I THINK THAT'S JUST A QUESTION THAT, THAT WE'RE ASKING OURSELVES AND MAYBE THAT WE SHOULD POSE TO THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION, UM, AS WELL. 
          SO, UH, I, I SUPPORT, UH, GOING BACK AND REVISITING THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH THE PARTNERS. 
          UH, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY IN A DIFFERENT PLACE, PLACE, AND THAT SHOULD BE REVISITED. 
          THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, IN TERMS OF THEIR DIVERSITY AND WHAT THEIR ROLE IS. 
          SO I THINK IT'D BE GREAT IF WE WERE ABLE TO, TO CLARIFY THAT. 
          I THINK SOMETHING THAT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT IS THAT IF YOU'RE INVITING CITIZENS OR RESIDENTS AND STAKEHOLDERS TO ENGAGE IN A PROCESS, YOU HAVE TO LET THEM KNOW HOW THEIR INPUT WILL BE USED AND HOW IT'S GOING TO CHANGE OR INFLUENCE THE PROCESS. 
          AND IF SOMEONE RIGHT NOW FEELS THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, THAT WHAT THEY SAY DOESN'T MATTER, THEN MAYBE WE NEED TO CLARIFY THAT. 
          AND THAT CAN BE SOMETHING WE DO, UH, WHEN WE REVISIT THE, THE AGREEMENT. 
          UM, JUST FOR, FOR THE RECORD, UH, LIKE SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES, I WAS HESITANT ABOUT OUR VOTE ON THE PLAN. 
          I WAS, YOU KNOW, UNCERTAIN ABOUT CERTAIN ELEMENTS OF IT, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I SUPPORTED IT BECAUSE I FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO TELL OUR WHOLE STORY. 
          AND I, AND I STILL DO. 
          UM, CAN YOU, UH, MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR LORI OR THE COUNCILMAN. 
          CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION AND, UH, HOW MANY PEOPLE MAKE THAT UP? HOW DID THE VOTE GO? UM, AND WHO APPOINTS THOSE MEMBERS? COUNCILWOMAN WHAT, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT, UM, THE TEXAS HISTORIC COMMISSION IS KIND OF LIKE THE H D R C FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND THEY ARE APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNOR. 
          UM, I BELIEVE THERE WERE, UM, I ACTUALLY, I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MANY MEMBERS ARE THERE. 
          I MIGHT THINK THAT ANDY AND ASK HIM IF HE RECALLS. 
          UM, BUT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REVIEW AND ARCHEOLOGY OF PROJECTS THAT ARE WITHIN A HISTORIC DISTRICT OR WITHIN, UM, THAT ARE ON, UM, THE HISTORIC, UM, UM, REGISTRATION. 
          AND, UM, THEY HAVE BEEN ENGAGED IN THIS PROJECT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING AND NEVER REVIEWED SEVERAL PERMITS ALREADY AND APPROVED SEVERAL ARCHEOLOGY PERMITS, UM, SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING. 
          AND WE HAVE ENGAGED THEM, UM, AS EARLY AS 2014 WHEN THEY WERE PART OF ITS CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND ENGAGED IN THOSE MEETINGS AS WELL. 
          UH, LORI, IF I COULD SURPRISE COUNCIL MEMBER IF I COULD MM-HMM. 
          , UH, I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT THEIR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WAS INVITED TO EVERY, UH, CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING AND WAS WELL-INFORMED ABOUT THE PLAN. 
          UM, THEY WERE ACTUALLY A PART OF THE  COMMITTEE UP UNTIL, UH, JUST BEFORE THE VOTE. 
          AND, UH, DO YOU ALSO WANNA POINT OUT WHEN IT CAME TO THE VOTE THAT THAT, THAT WE HEARD ABOUT, WHICH WAS A, A, A 12 TO TWO VOTE AGAINST, UH, IT WAS THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY GROUP THAT VOTED IN FAVOR OF A RECOM, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO, TO THE BROADER BOARD. 
          SO WE'LL GET YOU THAT INFORMATION OF ALL THE NAMES. 
          AND WE DID, UH, THE PART OF THE TECHNICAL 
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GROUP THAT, THAT RECOMMENDED APPROVAL IS AN ARCHITECT FROM SAN ANTONIO. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          AND, AND ONE OF THE REASONS I ASK, UH, COUNCILMAN IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TELLING THE WHOLE STORY OF, OF SAN ANTONIO, AND I REMEMBER THE DAY THAT WE VOTED ON THIS, UM, RAMON FROM, UM, I GUESS  WAS, UH, WAS THERE, AND SEEING THAT WE HAD A NATIVE AMERICAN, UH, SUPPORT FOR THE PROGRAM GAVE ME SOME CONFIDENCE, UH, OR A LOT MORE CONFIDENCE. 
          UH, AND, AND THAT WAS PART OF THE REASON I SUPPORTED IT. 
          UM, WE ALSO KNOW THAT ALL OF THIS USED TO BELONG TO MEXICO, RIGHT. 
          UM, LONG BEFORE IT WAS, LONG BEFORE IT WAS IN TEXAS. 
          SO I, I GUESS I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE DIVERSITY OF THE, THE GROUP THAT THIS WHOLE, THAT OUR WHOLE PLAN IS HINGING ON HERE. 
          WE ARE TRYING TO REPRESENT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MANY FLAGS OVER TEXAS, THE MANY POPULATIONS THAT WERE SERVED AT THE, AT THE ALAMO. 
          AND I, AND I HOPE THAT THAT BODY, UM, UNDERSTANDS THE, THE SERIOUSNESS AND THE, THE GRAVITY OF, OF THAT DECISION AND, AND HOW THAT IS, THAT IS IN THEIR HANDS. 
          ANYWAY, I LOOK FORWARD TO, TO FURTHER DISCUSSION. 
          UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, COUNCILMAN AND LORI? THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER GONZO, THAT ME, MAYOR? YES, THAT'S YOU. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO I JUST, I, I JUST, I WANTED TO GO BACK TO, UH, THE QUESTION THAT I ASKED, UH, THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE REPRESENTING ALAMO TRUST, UM, I'M SORRY, I CAN'T REMEMBER YOUR NAME. 
          UH, WELCOME. 
          WILSON IS, IS HIS NAME, COUNCILWOMAN. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO I, I, I, UM, THINK THAT HE'S, HOPEFULLY HE'S STILL STANDING BY, BUT, SO I, I KNEW THAT I HAD READ IN THE PAPER THAT GENE POWELL AND PHILANTHROPIST RAMONA BASS HAD RESIGNED FROM THE BOARD ALAMO TRUST, SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS IN THE PAPER YESTERDAY. 
          UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, JUST RUMORS, SO I CAN'T CONFIRM, YOU KNOW, LIKE ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR, BUT THAT, THAT OTHERS HAD RESIGNED AS WELL. 
          UM, SO YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, NANCY PEROT, JEAN PHILLIPS, LOU MORMAN, I THINK I READ ALL THAT IN THE PAPER, HAD RESIGNED. 
          SO CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT OR, UM, THAT WAS, I'M SURE THAT WAS IN THE PAPER. 
          I I DON'T KNOW WHERE ELSE I WOULD'VE GOTTEN THOSE NAMES. 
          YEAH, SURE, I CAN CLARIFY IT. 
          UM, YES, THEY HAVE ALL RESIGNED, BUT THEY WERE NOT, UH, UH, ONLY JEAN POWELL WAS THE ONLY, UH, BOARD MEMBER OF ALAMO TRUST. 
          THOSE OTHERS WERE, IT, IT WAS KIND OF A MISCHARACTERIZATION OF THE PAPER, BUT THOSE OTHERS WERE ONLY MEMBERS OF, REMEMBER, OF THE ALAMO FOUNDATION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO RAMONA DO WAS NOT PART OF THE TRUST? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          SHE, UH, SHE WAS, SHE'S A, A BOARD MEMBER. 
          SHE WAS A BOARD MEMBER OF THE MEMBER OF THE ALAMO FOUNDATION. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, AND, UH, UM, I THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. 
          SO, UM, I, UH, SO, AND, AND HOW MANY, UM, BEYOND JEAN POWELL, WAS HE THE ONLY MEMBER THAT WAS BOTH ON THE TRUST AND ON THE FOUNDATION? YEAH, THAT'S, UH, YES. 
          UH, WELL, SOME OF US, UH, ON THE TRUST ARE ALSO ON THE FOUNDATION AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND SO, UM, IS THERE, UM, YOU KNOW, EXPECTATION THAT THEY WILL RESIGN OR THAT THEY'LL STAY THE COURSE? OH, YOU TALKING ABOUT THE REMAINDER? YEAH, NO, THERE'S NO, I THINK I, AND HOPE ANDRATI IS ON THE, ON THIS, UH, CALL AS WELL, AND SHE IS ON BOTH BOARDS WITH ME. 
          NO, THERE IS NO ONE, THE, THE INTENTION OF, OF THE REST OF US IS WE'RE GONNA STAY THE COURSE AND WORK OUT A SOLUTION HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT CLA CLARIFICATION BECAUSE I, UM, OF COURSE, THAT WAS RECORDED IN THE PAPER YESTERDAY, SO WELL, UH, SEE WHO WROTE THE ARTICLE, UM, TO GET THAT, THAT CLARIFICATION. 
          SO, UM, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW THAT, THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK HERE FROM US ABOUT THE LEASE, BUT IF I ALSO REMEMBER CORRECTLY, UM, OH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THIS, WELL, I'LL ASK THE QUESTION, AND ANDY, YOU CAN TELL ME OR NOT, WASN'T THERE PART OF THE LEASE THAT MADE, UM, HAD A VERY FINANCIAL OBLIGATION TO THE CITY IN THE EVENT OF A UNWINDING OF THE LEASE? UM, YES. 
          I CAN TALK TO, UH, TO THAT BECAUSE THE PROVISION OBVIOUSLY IS IN THE LEASE, UH, COUNCILWOMAN, AND THAT WAS, IF THE CITY ATTEMPTED TO TERMINATE THE LEASE WITHOUT FAULT, UH, THERE WOULD BE A $15 MILLION PAYMENT. 
          AND THAT WAS THERE, UH, BECAUSE, UH, IT WAS, UH, WELL, I DON'T WANNA GET TOO MUCH INTO 
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THE NEGOTIATIONS, BUT IT WAS ONE WHERE, UH, IT MADE THE WHOLE LEASE STRUCTURE WORK IN TERMS OF BEING, HAVING THE G L O HAVE SOME CONFIDENCE THAT THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL IS NOT GONNA UNILATERALLY, UH, SIMPLY TERMINATE THE LEASE WITHOUT ANY REASON TO DO IT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I, I DO RECALL THAT PART AND WHY I WAS NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THE, THE PROJECT, IT DIDN'T HAVE TO DO SO MUCH WITH THE PLAN OTHER THAN THE CLOSING OF IT, BUT ALSO HAD TO DO, UH, THE CTAP. 
          I, I FELT REALLY IN INDIFFERENT TO THE CTAP. 
          UM, AND, AND AT THE TIME I DIDN'T WANNA COME BE, LOOK AS IF I WAS SUPPORTIVE OF THE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T WANNA MOVE THE SENATE HOUSE, WHICH IS WHY I SUPPORTED IT AS I DID AND TRIED TO MAKE SOME AMENDMENTS AT THE LAST MINUTE. 
          BUT, SO WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US, UH, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO UNDO, SEEING AS HOW, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, I MEAN, I, I I, I I, I THINK THAT IT'S NOT A FAULT OF OUR OWN THAT WE ARE NOW IN A SITUATION WHERE WE CAN'T CONTINUE WITH THE PLAN, ALTHOUGH, LIKE MY COLLEAGUES AND VERY CONCERNED WHY THERE WAS NOT A PLAN B, UM, GIVEN THE, THE FACT THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF OPPOSITION TO MOVING THE SENATE TASK. 
          SO, UM, WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US IN THE STEP TO, UM, TO SEPARATE FROM THAT LEASE THAT COUNCILMAN? I, I PREFER TO TALK ABOUT AN EXEC. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, I, UM, I, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT, BUT, UM, I KNOW, I THINK THAT THAT IS WELL, I'LL, I'LL JUST LEAVE IT THERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO, DO YOU WANNA MAKE COMMENTS BEFORE I WRAP UP? YEAH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, I WOULD, UH, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD DISCUSSION AND, UM, I, I'M GLAD THIS COUNCIL IS NOW, HAS A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THE ALAMO PROJECT AND HOW WE GOT HERE. 
          UH, WE DO FIND OURSELVES AT A PIVOTAL MOMENT IN TIME IN THIS PROJECT, GIVEN HOW, UH, OUR METICULOUSLY LAY PLANS WERE DERAILED BY JOHN NOW IN THE T H C EARLIER THIS FALL. 
          UH, WE ARE HERE TODAY TO CONTEMPLATE HOW TO CHART OUR COURSE FORWARD. 
          THIS CONVERSATION IS A DIRECT RESULT OF POLITICAL SQUABBLING IN AUSTIN, BECAUSE CERTAIN ELECTED OFFICIALS TURN THE SENATE TAP INTO A LIGHTNING ROD USED TO GALVANIZE THEIR POLITICAL BASE. 
          SADLY, THOSE EFFORTS WERE SUCCESSFUL IN TURNING A PROJECT, EMPHASIZING TELLING THE EVIDENCE-BASED AND WHOLE STORY OF THE ALAMO TO ONE WHICH WAS BASED UPON POLITICAL IDEOLOGY AND MYTHOLOGY. 
          WE, AS THE SAN ANTONIO CITY COUNCIL, MUST SUM THE COURAGE TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR THE SOUL OF THIS PROJECT. 
          WE CANNOT SELL OUT OUR POLITICAL EXPEDIENCY AND THE PROMISE OF ECONOMIC GAIN. 
          WE OWE IT TO THE MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE PASSIONATELY WORKED ON THIS PROJECT FOR, UH, FOR A VERY LONG TIME, FOR UP TO SIX YEARS, UM, FOR IT IS ON THE SHOULDERS THAT WE STAND ON TODAY. 
          MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE OWE IT TO THE GENERATIONS OF PEOPLE WHO CALL SAN ANTONIO HOME TO TELL THEIR STORIES AND ENSURE THEIR HISTORIES PRESERVED AND PROMULGATED FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS OF SAN ANTONIOS. 
          WE HAVE DECISIONS TO MAKE ABOUT HOW WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ALL OUR CITIZENS. 
          AND AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK ALL MY COLLEAGUES. 
          I WANNA THANK, UH, LORI HOUSTON FOR THE PRESENTATION, UM, MEMBERS OF THE, UH, MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE THAT I'VE WORKED WITH IN THE PAST, AND WE'LL BE WORKING WITH IN THE FUTURE. 
          UH, WE HAVE A, AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHART OUR COURSE FORWARD AND LOOK FORWARD TO OUR CONVERSATION, UH, MOVING FORWARD INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. 
          YES, MAYOR, I, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GET CLARIFIED. 
          UH, WILL YOU BE HAVING US GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSIONS SO WE CAN ASK FURTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, OUR LEASE ARRANGEMENT WITH THE G L O? YES. 
          YEAH, WE'LL HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION RIGHT AFTER THIS, SO IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER COMMENTS, UH, FOR DISCUSSION, UH, BEFORE WE, MY OBSERVATIONS AND MAKE SOME COMMENTS MYSELF. 
          UM, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IT'S, IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE RECOGNIZE, UM, THAT THIS IS A CONVERSATION THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING, UH, AND THAT'S BEEN FORMING NOT FOR SIX YEARS, NOT FOR 15 YEARS, BUT, UH, FOR MANY, MANY DECADES. 
          IN FACT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA, UH, RIGHTFULLY POINTED OUT THE PLANNING THAT BEGAN IN 1994. 
          UNDER THEN, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, THE MAYOR, UH, HOWARD PEAK, UH, ONE OF THE CONSISTENT ELEMENTS OF THAT, UH, RECOGNIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF, UH, THIS PIECE OF LAND, UH, AND THE, AND THE, AND THE BUILDINGS ON, ON THIS PIECE OF LAND AS CRITICAL, 
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UH, SITES FOR THE, FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          THEY ARE, UH, THE CENTER OF HOW WE UNDERSTAND TEXAS HISTORY. 
          UH, THERE ARE ALSO, ALSO, UM, THE CENTER OF CIVIC LIFE HERE IN SAN ANTONIO FOR THREE D CENTURIES. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, NOW THEY ARE THE ONLY WORLD HERITAGE SITE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          SO WHAT WE DO HERE IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT, UM, AND IS MUCH BIGGER THAN, UH, A SINGLE, UH, MONUMENT. 
          UH, THE SECOND THING I'LL SAY IS THAT, UM, WE HAVE A, I DON'T WANT US TO LOSE THE FOREST FOR THE TREES HERE. 
          UM, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO MODIFY OUR PATH FORWARD BECAUSE THE PLAN ARCHITECTURALLY DESIGN-WISE ITSELF HAD THE CTA, UH, MOVING. 
          THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. 
          BUT THE PLAN ITSELF, AND WHAT WE DO WITH THE ALAMO PLAZA IS MUCH BIGGER, MUCH BIGGER THAN JUST THE CTA. 
          UM, AND SO I, I THINK THAT THAT IS UNDERSCORED BY THE FACT THAT THIS HAS BEEN A DECADES LONG CONVERSATION. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS AGREED UPON BY THIS COUNCIL, BY A PREVIOUS COUNCIL, BY A COUNCIL BEFORE THAT DATING ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE HAPPENING IN 1994, ARE THE VISION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES. 
          SO THE FIRST AND MOST IMPORTANT ELEMENT OF OUR PATH FORWARD IS A REAFFIRMATION OF THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, UM, THAT YOU CAN ALL READ, UH, IN VERBATIM. 
          THAT'S NOT UP FOR, FOR DEBATE. 
          UH, THE VISION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES WILL GUIDE OUR PATH FORWARD NO MATTER WHAT. 
          AND WITH THAT IS THE UNDERSTANDING THAT MOST PEOPLE, 99% OF THE PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND TEXAS AND WHO UNDERSTAND THE ALAMO UNDERSTAND IT THROUGH THE LENS OF THE 1836 BATTLE. 
          BUT THAT'S NOT ALL OF IT. 
          THERE IS MUCH MORE HISTORY THAT'S MUCH MORE LAYERS AND STORIES OF HISTORY TO THIS PLAZA, TO THIS BATTLEGROUND, TO THIS SHRINE, TO THIS BURIAL SITE THAN JUST THE 1836 BATTLE. 
          SO WHILE WE REAFFIRM THE IMPORTANCE OF THE 1836 BATTLE TO THE TEXAS HISTORY AND TO AMERICAN HISTORY, WE'RE ALSO TELLING THE REST OF THE STORY AND GIVING CONTEXT AND PAYING HOMAGE TO ALL OF THE, THE, THE ASPECTS OF HISTORY THAT INCLUDES, AS COUNCIL MEMBER VERAN SAID, THE CIVIL RIGHTS HISTORY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          THE SECOND THING IS THAT, UH, THIS IS, UM, AND THE REASON WHY IT'S BEEN CONTROVERSIAL HERE FROM THE VERY START IS THAT THIS IS THE CENTER OF OUR CITY. 
          IT'S BEEN THE CENTER OF CIVIC LIFE IN SAN ANTONIO FOR CENTURIES. 
          AND IT IS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE GATHER, WHERE WE CELEBRATE, WHERE WE, UH, WHERE WE MOURN, UH, WHERE WE RECOGNIZE CHANGING LEADERSHIP. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED ON THE ALAMO GROUNDS THAT WILL CONTINUE TO HAPPEN, AND THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S THE CENTER OF THE SEVENTH LARGEST CITY IN THE UNITED STATES. 
          THAT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE, WHICH MEANS THAT OUR PATH FORWARD ALSO HAS TO ENSURE THAT OUR CITY, UM, IS PROTECTED, OUR INTERESTS ARE PROTECTED, THAT WE ENSURE THAT THE, THAT THIS CENTER OF CIVIC LIFE, UH, THE, THE, THE DESTINY OF THAT SITE IS DETERMINED BY, UM, US THE COMMUNITY OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          THE THIRD AND FINAL THING I'LL SAY IS THAT THE, THE PATH FORWARD ALSO REQUIRES US TO RECOGNIZE THAT NOTHING SIGNIFICANT IN TERMS OF PRESERVING THIS SHRINE, UM, AND REDEVELOPING THIS PROPERTY WILL HAPPEN WITHOUT, UH, A HEALTHY PARTNERSHIP WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          UM, WE HAVE HAD THAT, UH, IT'S BEEN STRAINED, UH, BUT WE HAVE HAD THAT, UH, AND WE SHOULD RETAIN THAT. 
          UH, BUILDINGS ARE OWNED BY THE STATE, BUILDINGS ARE OWNED BY THE CITY GROUNDS ARE O OPERATED AND OWNED BY THE, THE CITY. 
          UH, THEY'RE LEASED BACK TO THE STATE. 
          THERE. 
          THERE'S A, THERE'S A MIX AND A CO-MINGLING OF INTEREST THAT HAPPENED HERE ON THIS SITE THAT REQUIRES US TO STEADY OURSELVES AND REMEMBER THAT THIS RELATIONSHIP NEEDS TO BE STRONG FOR US TO DO RIGHT BY THE ALAMO PLAZA, UH, AND BY THE ALAMO, UH, ITSELF. 
          SO WITH THAT, UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SOME DISCUSSIONS TO BE HAD ABOUT OUR, OUR, UM, TACTICALLY OUR, OUR FORWARD IN TERMS OF HOW WE REALIZE, UH, AND MAINTAIN THOSE THREE IMPORTANT POINTS. 
          UM, THAT'S WHY I THINK WE DO HAVE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS SOME OF THIS. 
          UH, BUT, BUT THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE, BE ASSURED THAT THE STEWARDSHIP OF THE ALAMO, UH, WILL CONTINUE, UH, AND WILL BE ADVANCED IN A STRONG AND POSITIVE WAY, UH, THAT THEY CAN BE PROUD OF, NOT JUST FOR THE CITIZENS OF SAN ANTONIO, THE RESIDENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          SO, UH, WITH THAT, UM, I'LL WRAP UP THIS SESSION, UH, BY CALLING OUR, OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION NOW, AND I THINK EVERYBODY HAS THE LINK. 
          LET ME JUST MAKE SURE I READ THIS PROPERLY. 
          THE TIME IS NOW, OH, I GOT THE WRONG ONE HERE. 
          ONE SECOND. 
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OKAY. 
          THE TIME IS 
          [At any time during the meeting, the City Council may recess into executive session in the B Room to consult with the City Attorney's Office (Texas Government Code Section 551.071) and deliberate or discuss any of the following: Discuss legal issues relating to the Master Lease and Cooperation Agreement pursuant to Texas Government Code Section 551.071 (consultation with attorney).]
NOW 2:53 PM THIS THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 12TH, 2020. 
          THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WILL NOW MEET AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE,  TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071, AND TO DELIBERATE AND DISCUSS THE ALAMO MASTER LEASE AND COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. 
          THE TIME IS 3:48 PM ON THIS THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 12TH, 2020. 
          THE CITY COUNCIL HAS RECONVENED FROM ITS EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          NO OFFICIAL ACTION WAS TAKEN, AND OUR MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED. 
          HAVE A GREAT AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY.
* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.