[Work Session]
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SO WHAT I HAVE FOR TODAY IS ON YOUR POSTPONE AND WITHDRAWN ITEMS. I'VE GOT ITEM NUMBER ONE AND 17 ONE IS POSTPONED.
THAT'S THE ONE FOR WATSON ROAD.
AND THEN, UH, ITEM 17 IS WITHDRAWN COMPLETELY, WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED.
NEITHER OF THESE WILL BE CONSIDERED TODAY.
AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, UH, THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE STILL ON COMBINED.
SO AFTER I READ THESE, IF ANYBODY WANTS SOMETHING PULLED, IF YOU COULD LET US KNOW ITEMS 3, 5, 11, 12, 13, 15, 16, 19, AND 20.
IS THAT GOOD FOR EVERYONE OR DO ANY OF THESE NEED TO BE PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION? I THINK I SEE COMMISSIONER MCGEE.
UM, YES, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ANTE, UM, 12 FOR A TWO WEEK, UH, CONTINUANCE.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WANT TO PULL AN ITEM FOR A CONTINUANCE OR OTHERWISE? UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
UM, ITEM THREE FOR A ONE MONTH CONTINUANCE.
OKAY, SO I HAVE ITEM THREE FOR A ONE MONTH CONTINUANCE, WHICH WOULD BE MARCH THE SECOND AND ITEM 12 FOR A CONTINUANCE DATE OF FEBRUARY 16TH.
AND SO THEN THAT TAKES US TO THE NEXT PAGE, WHICH IS THE COMBINED HEARING TOO, WHICH IS WHERE WE WILL LOOK AT THE ITEMS THAT ARE FOR CONSIDERATION OF A CONTINUANCE.
AND SO THAT MEANS WE NOW HAVE ITEMS THREE, ITEM SIX AND ITEM 12.
AND THEN FOR INDIVIDUALS TODAY, IT'S ITEMS 2, 4, 7.
ALRIGHT, UH, WOULD ANYONE LIKE COUNTS ON ANY OF THE ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA? UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, CAN WE GET COUNTS ON, UH, NUMBER 15 FOR ITEM 1531? NOTICES WERE MAIL ZERO WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM PROSPECT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY IS OPPOSED.
CAN, CAN WE PULL THAT ONE FOR UH, CONTINUANCE? YES MA'AM.
ANYONE ELSE? UH, WHO WOULD LIKE COUNTS PLEASE? UH, COMMISSIONER JONES.
THE COUNT I NEEDED TO KNOW ON CASE 18 WHAT THE STAFF RECOMMENDED IN THE ZONING CHANGE.
STAFF, IS THERE AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION ON 18 OR IS IT STRAIGHT UP DENIAL? IT'S, THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF L LIGHT INDUSTRIAL L LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
ALRIGHT, UH, OTHER COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS COUNTS.
ALRIGHT, UM, STAFF FOR MY PURPOSES, UH, LET ME FIND RIGHT DOCUMENT UH, COUNTS ON 11 AND TWO PLEASE.
WHAT NUMBERS WAS THAT, SIR? 11 AND WHICH OTHER? AND TWO AND TWO.
I'M GOING OUT OF ORDER, I APOLOGIZE.
WE'RE, WE'RE GATHERING THAT INFORMATION.
TAKE THE, THE BINDER STICK SO IT TAKE A MINUTE CURTIS.
NOTICES WERE MAILED, ONE WAS RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND COLLINS
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GARDEN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED.FOR ITEM 2 42 NOTICES WERE MAILED, ZERO WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, TWO WERE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION.
UH, THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM SAN JUAN.
NEIGHBOR SAN JUAN GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND COLLINS GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED.
THERE WAS ALSO A PETITION FOR 24 SIGNATURES RECEIVED OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FOOT BUFFER IN OPPOSITION.
ALRIGHT, UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING TODAY'S AGENDA? ITEMS TO BE PULLED BY COMMISSIONERS.
IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS FOR THE WORK SESSION? THERE IS NO OTHER BUSINESS FOR THE WORK SESSION.
ALRIGHT, WE WILL STAND IN RECESS UNTIL APPROXIMATELY 1:00 PM WHEN THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BEGIN.
IF WE CAN GET THE AUDIO AND VIDEO GOING.
UH, GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
MY NAME IS JOHN BUSTAMANTE AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT FIVE ZONING COMMISSION.
I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION IN THE SESSION.
UH, CAN WE PLEASE HAVE OUR INTERPRETERS READ THE INTERPRETATION SERVICES AVAILABLE FOR THIS MEETING? THANK YOU.
[Roll Call]
RIGHT, STAFF, IF WE COULD PLEASE CONDUCT THE ROLL CALL.UH, PRIOR TO STARTING WITH THE ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION TODAY, I WOULD LIKE OUR STAFF TO REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT STAFF, IF YOU WOULD, TO PROTECT THE HEALTH OF THE PUBLIC AND LIMIT THE POTENTIAL SPREAD OF COVID 19.
THE ZONING COMMISSION IS HOLDING MEETINGS VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE.
THESE MEETING STANDARDS ARE BASED UPON THE VARIOUS SUSPENDED PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT ISSUED BY THE TEXAS GOVERNOR IN RESPONSE TO THE COVID 19 CRISIS THAT ARE IN PLACE.
UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN WATCH AND LISTEN TO THIS MEETING BY VISITING WWW.SANANTONIO.GOV/SB OR BY CALLING IN FOR AUDIO ONLY AT 2 1 0 2 0 6 5 4 8 3.
TO INCORPORATE PUBLIC COMMENT, THERE ARE FOUR OPPORTUNITIES.
THESE INCLUDE EMAIL OR MAIL OF COMMENT, DROPPING OFF COMMENTS, LEAVING VOICEMAIL OR ASKING TO BE CALLED DURING THE MEETING.
STATEMENTS OR COMMENTS RECEIVED ARE PART OF THE OFFICIAL WRITTEN RECORD FOR ITEMS ON INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT, STAFF WILL PLAY ANY MESSAGES RECEIVED BY VOICEMAIL.
LASTLY, FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO RECEIVE A CALLBACK, WE WILL CALL THEM TO STATE THEIR TWO MINUTE COMMENTS.
SPANISH INTERPRETERS ARE ON STANDBY AS NEEDED.
THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL WITH A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS.
UM, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE REVIEW
[Items 5, 11, 13, 16, & 19]
THE LIST OF CURRENT, UH, CURRENT LIST OF CONSENT INDIVIDUAL AND ANY POSTPONED OR WITHDRAWN ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER ONE IS BEING POSTPONED AND ITEM NUMBER 17 HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN FOR COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE ITEM 5, 11, 13, 16, AND 19.AND FOR COMBINED HEARING NUMBER TWO WE HAVE ITEMS 23, 6, 12, AND 15, WHICH WILL BE FOR CONTINUANCES
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AND AND ITEM 20 IS FOR REFUSAL? CORRECT.AND ON INDIVIDUAL AGENDA WE HAVE ITEMS 2, 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 14, AND 18.
DOES THAT SOUND CORRECT TO EVERYBODY? ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY ITEMS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FROM THE COMBINED HEARING? ONE OR TWO INTO INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION? ALRIGHT, SEEING AND HEARING NONE.
UH, STAFF IF YOU WOULD PLEASE READ THE REMAINING CONSENT ITEMS INTO THE RECORD.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO C THREE AND R FIVE TO I ONE AND C ONE.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME ON 13.379 ACRES.
GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 16 900 BLOCK OF NA NAOC ROAD.
114 NOTICES WERE MAILED, ZERO WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR.
ONE WAS RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION.
ROLLING MEADOWS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION RESPONDED IN SUPPORT.
ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FOUR TO I D Z TWO.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME WITH USAGE PERMITTED IN C TWO AND FOR FOUR RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
21 NOTICES WERE MAILED, ONE WAS RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO WERE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION.
AND COLLINS GARDEN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED.
ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE TO MS 25.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 3,400 BLOCK OF NORTHWESTERN DRIVE.
ZERO WERE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND THERE IS NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE NA TO I ONE.
ALL OVER LANES REMAINING THE SAME.
EIGHT NOTICES WERE MAILED, TWO WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR.
ZERO WERE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM EAST VILLAGE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
AND LASTLY, ITEM NUMBER 19 WAS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I ONE TO I D Z TWO.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME WITH USES PERMITTED AN OH 1.5 C ONE.
I HAVE THE 19 WAS NOT ON THIS ITEM, IS THAT CORRECT? I'M SORRY.
AM I INCORRECT? YEAH, WE HAVE 19 ON COMBINED, BUT 20 IS FOR REFUSAL.
SO FOR ITEM 19, IT WAS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I ONE TO I D Z TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME WITH USES PERMITTED IN OH 1.5 C ONE, DRY CLEANING, CHARITABLE FOOD AND OR CLOTHING.
MONTESSORI SCHOOL, SOMALI PREPARATION, ENTERTAINMENT VENUE, ALCOHOL, BEVERAGE, RETAIL SALES, WINE, BOUTIQUE SIGN SHOP, MOBILE FOOD COURT RENTAL EVENT SPECIALISTS, REDUCING SALON JANITORIAL CLEANING SERVICE, AND MF 50 MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT LOCATED AT 2023 AND 2015 WEST COMMERCE STREET.
11 WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO WERE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION.
AND THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.
IS THERE A MOTION CHAIR? BUSTAMONTE, THIS IS, UH, COMMISSIONER SIPES.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER 5 11 13 16 AND 19.
ALRIGHT, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.
ALRIGHT, I GOT MCDANIEL FIRST.
SO, UH, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
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VICE CHAIR SITE? YES.11 ZERO FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 5 11, 13, 16, AND 19.
[Items 20, 3, 6, 12, & 15]
COMBINED HEARING NUMBER TWO, UM, STAFF, IF I MIGHT RECOMMEND THAT WE DO THREE AND THEN SIX AND 12 TOGETHER AND THEN 15 AND 20, UNLESS IS 15.SIR, IF WE COULD DO ITEM NUMBER 21ST, THAT'S YOUR REFUSAL ITEM.
AND THEN WE WILL, UH, IF, IF THE COMMISSION SO DESIRES, WE WILL READ ALL THE ITEMS THAT ARE FOR TWO 16 AND THEN WE'LL READ ALL THE ITEMS THAT ARE FOR THREE, TWO.
UH, THAT'S A MUCH BETTER RECOMMENDATION THAN MINE STAFF.
UH, MAY THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, UH, HAS RECUSED HERSELF AND SHE IS NO LONGER APPEARING IN THIS HEARING.
SO ITEM NUMBER 20 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FOUR TO I DZ TWO ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT LOCATED AT 74 36 SOUTH NEW BRAUNFELS AVENUE.
11 NOTICES WERE MAILED, ZERO WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO WERE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM HOT WELLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR HIGHLAND HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UM, THIS ITEM WAS PREVIOUSLY ON CONSENT.
UH, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, I MOVE THAT WE CONTINUE, UM, ITEM 20 TO, UH, THE FEBRUARY 16TH HEARING.
I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER MCGEE.
I BELIEVE THIS WAS ON CONSENT, BUT IF YOU WANT IT TO BE CONTINUED RIGHT.
I WAS LIKE, WHY IS THAT ON? OKAY.
COMMISSIONER MCGEE BE, BEFORE WE DO THAT, UM, I THINK THERE WAS A MOTION.
SO TECHNICALLY IS THERE A SECOND? AND HEARING NONE, UH, THE MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE IS DEAD.
SO IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION ON THE FLOOR? THANK YOU, MY GRACIOUS COMMISSIONER.
I MAKE A MOTION FOR, UM, APPROVAL FOR ITEM 22ND MCDANIEL.
ALRIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
UM, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER MCGEE AND A SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, ARE YOU HEARING ME? YES.
COMMISSIONER MC MCDANIEL? YES.
MOTION PASSES FOR ITEM 2010 TO ZERO.
AND I BELIEVE NOW STAFF WE'RE GOING TO HEAR THOSE FOR CONTINUANCE TO, UH, THE 16TH.
ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A CONTINUANCE TO MARCH 2ND, AND IT IS A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM C THREE TO I D Z TWO.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO AND FOR 10 DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT ONE 14 WEST CAROLINA STREET.
ZERO WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR? ZERO RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION.
LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED AND THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY IS OPPOSED.
UM, I WAS JUST GONNA NOTE THAT COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS REAPPEARED IN THE MEETING.
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ITEM NUMBER THREE WAS THE ONLY CONTINUANCE FOR MARCH 2ND.AND THE FOLLOWING THREE ITEMS ARE CONTINUANCES FOR FEBRUARY 16TH, STARTING WITH ITEM NUMBER SIX, WHICH IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FOUR TO MF 18, LOCATED IN THE 11,000 BLOCK OF BRAUN ROAD.
50 NOTICES WERE MAILED, ZERO WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NINE WERE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND THERE IS NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 12 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FIVE TO R FOUR.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME, LOCATED AT 27 14 SOUTH WW WHITE ROAD.
ZERO WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO WERE RETURNED, RETURNED IN OPPOSITION AND THERE IS NO RESPONSE FROM LOWER SOUTHEAST SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
AND LASTLY, ITEM 15, WHICH IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FOUR TO I D Z ONE.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME WITH USES PERMITTED FOR SIX DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 16 11, 16 15, AND 1617 WEST TRAVIS STREET.
31 NOTICES WERE MAILED, ZERO WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO WERE RETURNED IN OPPOSITION.
THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM PROSPECT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY IS OPPOSED, MR. CHAIR.
UH, JUST A QUICK POINT OF INFORMATION.
UH, I THOUGHT 15 WAS GOING TO INDIVIDUAL.
DID UH, SOMEONE ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE ON THAT? COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES, I ASKED FOR A CONTINUANCE ON THAT ONE.
UM, ALRIGHT, WITH THAT CLARIFICATION, IS THERE A MOTION CHAIR? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE TO THE, UH, MARCH 2ND MEETING FOR ITEM THREE AND CONTINUANCES TO THE FEBRUARY 16TH MEETING FOR ITEM SIX, 12 AND 15.
ALRIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER SIPS.
IS THERE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE SECOND.
ALRIGHT, UH, THERE IS A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE OF ITEM NUMBER ONE TO MARCH 2ND, ITEMS NUMBER SIX, 12 AND 15 TO, UH, FEBRUARY 16TH BY COMMISSIONER S SIPES.
A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
THE MOTION, UH, IS FOR APPROVAL 11 TO ZERO.
[2. 21-1345 (Continued from 01/19/21) ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700144 (Council District 5)]
BEGIN WITH OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING ITEMS. THANK YOU.STAFF ITEM NUMBER TWO IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FIVE TO IDZ TWO WITH USES PERMITTED FOR 20 DWELLING UNITS.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
LOCATED AT SIX 11 ORIENTAL AVENUE.
42 NOTICES WERE MAILED, ZERO WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR.
TWO WERE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM SAN JUAN GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
COLLINS GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED.
AND A PETITION WITH 24 SIGNATURES ALL OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT BUFFER WAS RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION.
THE PROPOSED I D Z TWO IS SUITABLE TO THE AREA AND PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL OPTIONS WITH THE SAME CONSIDERATION, SORRY, WITH THE CONSIDERATION FOR 20 RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS, THE REQUEST IS LIMITED TO THE SITE PLAN WITH A MAXIMUM MAXIMUM OF FOUR STORIES IN HEIGHT AND A REQUIRED FIVE FOOT PERIMETER SETBACK.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE? APPLICANT? APPLICANT IS PRESENT.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
UH, I'LL, I'LL BEGIN AT THE BEGINNING.
SO MY CLIENT ACTUALLY PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY FROM THE CITY BACK IN 2019.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S DESIGNATED IN THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AS HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
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FOR IDZ TWO WITH 30 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, TWO STORY UNITS BACK IN JUNE OF 2020.WELL, THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, BEGINNING OF THE LOCKDOWN AND ALL THAT.
AND I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO ACTUALLY HAVE AN IN-PERSON MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I'VE HAD TO RESPOND THROUGH PHONE CALLS AND, AND EMAILS.
THEY USED TO HAVE THEIR MONTHLY MEETINGS AT A LOCAL LIBRARY, WHICH HAVE BEEN CLOSED SINCE CORONAVIRUS, BUT IT'S, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS OPPOSED TO THE 30 UNITS.
SO WE POSTPONED THE CASE TO REVISE OUR SITE PLAN AND WE CAME BACK WITH 20 UNITS AND WE THOUGHT WE WOULD BE OKAY.
BUT AS YOU SAW, THERE'S A NEW PETITION THAT I JUST RECEIVED THIS MORNING AND SOME OTHER OPPOSITION.
BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THIS PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, IT'S DESIGNATED HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, SO IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN FOR 20 UNITS.
BUT, UM, THE PROBLEM WITH THE PROPERTY IS IT, IT'S NEVER BEEN DEVELOPED.
IT ABUTS DUAL RAILROAD TRACKS THAT ARE, THAT ARE JUST NORTH OF KELLY AIR FORCE BASE AND THE RAILROAD YARD DOWN THERE.
SO THEY'RE VERY BUSY RAILROAD TRACKS.
SO TRYING TO BUILD, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY LARGE LOT HOMES ON THIS PROPERTY IS JUST NOT FEASIBLE.
AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY NEVER BEEN FEASIBLE BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THE PROPERTY HAS NEVER BEEN DEVELOPED AND IT'S, IT'S KIND OF AT A DEAD END JUNCTURE THERE WITH, WITH THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND ORIENTAL AVENUE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO GET A DENSITY THAT WILL ALLOW THE SITE TO BE DEVELOPED.
UM, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE.
I MEAN, I, I KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD WASN'T, WAS UPSET WITH 30, I THOUGHT WE WERE GOOD WITH 20.
SO NOW THAT THEY'RE UPSET WITH 20, WE'RE WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET SOME, SOME EXTRA DENSITY.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET SOME EXTRA DENSITY SO THAT THE PROJECT IS ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE.
WE DON'T FEEL THAT IT'LL BE TOO MUCH OF A BURDEN ON THE AREA.
THERE ARE FAIRLY DENSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THIS PART OF TOWN AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE A GOOD USE OF A EMPTY LOT.
THAT'S, THAT'S, LIKE I SAID, NEVER BEEN, AND JUST WITH THE, THE BURDEN OF BEING ADJACENT TO SOME, SOME BUSY RAILROAD TRACKS.
I WOULD, UH, RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
ALRIGHT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, FROM COMMISSIONERS? AND THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE, UH, BUT AT THIS POINT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND I'LL, I'LL COME IN AT THE END.
SO QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? ALL RIGHT, WELL I GUESS THE END IS THE BEGINNING.
UM, ALRIGHT, SO FOR MR. CHRISTENSEN AS THE APPLICANT, YOU MENTIONED CURRENTLY IT IS, UM, ZONED R FIVE AND THERE ARE EIGHT LOTS AVAILABLE.
UM, WELL LET ME ASK, GIVEN SORT OF THE SHAPE, YOU'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE RAILROADS, BUT GIVEN THE SHAPE OF THE PROPERTY, IS THAT ANOTHER IMPEDIMENT TO DEVELOPMENT? IT IS, IT'S A TRIANGLE.
UM, SO OUR PROPOSAL ALL ALONG AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE TO HAVE THE STRUCTURES, THE HOMES FACE THE STREET.
SO IT'LL BE ORIENTAL ON, ON FACING SOUTH AND TRINITY STREET FACING EAST WITH THE BACKYARDS UP AGAINST THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
OBVIOUSLY TRYING TO KEEP THE HOMES AS FAR AWAY FROM THE RAILROAD TRACKS AS POSSIBLE.
BUT YES, THE TRIANGLE
SO LET ME ASK, YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF THIS AREA SURROUNDING THIS TRACT IS R FOUR ZONING, IS THAT CORRECT? R FIVE, R FOUR.
THERE'S, THERE'S 3000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS, YOU KNOW, BUT UM, I'VE KIND OF BEEN FOCUSING ON COLLINS GARDEN SINCE THEY'RE EVERYTHING EAST OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS, BUT YES, R FIVE AND R FOUR IN THE AREA.
STAFF FOR YOU, UM, AS OF RIGHT AS CURRENTLY ZONED THIS AS R FIVE, I THINK MY MATH COMES OUT TO ABOUT, UH, ALMOST 11 UNITS.
IS THAT CORRECT? I'M DOUBLE CHECKING THE MATH, BUT THAT SOUNDS CORRECT SIR.
AND SO IF WE WENT TO R FOUR, MY MATH COMES OUT TO ABOUT 13.4 UNITS FOR THIS LAND? YES SIR.
AND THEN R THREE WOULD BE ABOUT 17.9, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA GET THERE.
UM, ALRIGHT, LET ME ASK THIS STAFF, YOU KNOW, WITH I D Z TWO, UM, WE HAVE A FOUR STORY LIMITATION.
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THAT'S CORRECT, SIR.UM, LET ME ASK A QUESTION ABOUT RANGES STAFF.
UM, IF WE WERE TO GO TO, UM, I D Z ONE, WOULD THAT BE IN RANGE? I I D Z ONE WILL ONLY ALLOW 18 UNITS PER ACRE? UH, UNDERSTANDING THAT, BUT IS THAT WITHIN THE RANGE OF THE CURRENTLY NOTICED REQUEST? UM, ACTUALLY WHENEVER IT'S I D D IT REQUIRES REIFICATION ALL.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS? I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM ANYONE IF THEY WANT TO PRIOR TO BEGINNING DISCUSSION OF A MOTION.
SORRY, COMMISSIONER HUEY, DID YOU HAVE A, YOU'RE STILL MUTED, SIR.
MR. CHAIR, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY.
YES, UH, I'M LOOKING AT SECTION 35 4 0 3 AND IT DOES SAY THAT IT DOES NOT REQUIRE REIFICATION WHEN THE BASE I D D DIS, UH, DISTRICT OR OVERLAY IS DECREASING DENSITY OR INTENSITY.
SO YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT DECREASE.
STAFF? UH, COMMISSIONER HUI? NOPE.
ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT THEN, UH, IN THAT CASE, OH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIELS.
MY QUESTION JUST IS FOR STAFF, I, UH, WITH COLLINS GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, DID THEY INDICATE WHY THEY WERE OPPOSED? WAS IT DENSITY OR HEIGHT OR ANYTHING PARTICULARLY EXPRESSED? WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND PULL UP THAT COMMENT, THEIR COMMENTS ON THE SCREEN.
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, IT APPEARS THAT IT'S, UH, AN ISSUE WITH DENSITY.
THAT, UH, THAT HELPS CLARIFY THINGS FOR ME.
ALRIGHT, UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? UH, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? PATRICK, COULD YOU TELL ME SOMETHING ABOUT THE HOMES THEMSELVES? WHAT'S THE SQUARE FOOTAGE? MR. CHRISTENSEN? SORRY, I THINK I DID, I DID I NEED TO START ALL OVER?
UH, TWO STORY STRUCTURES, TWO BEDROOM, ONE BATH, UM, CARPORTS OR GARAGE DEPENDING ON WHAT THE CUSTOMER REQUESTS.
UH, THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE IS ABOUT A THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT EACH.
THAT, THAT'S, THAT WAS THE CURRENT PLAN.
TWO, TWO BEDROOM, ONE BATH, A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
UM, WHAT'S THE AVERAGE OF THOSE HOUSES THERE ON THE R FIVES? DO YOU KNOW? IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING.
THERE'S ACTUALLY A HOUSE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM US LOOKED QUITE LARGE, BUT I'D SAY THE AVERAGE HOME IS PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE OLDER THIRTIES, FORTIES, TWO BEDROOM, ONE BATH.
UM, PROBABLY ABOUT 1200 TO 1800 SQUARE FEET.
WHAT'S THE WIDTH OF THE LOT? THE WIDTH? WELL, OKAY, IT'S A TRIANGLE.
SO THE SOUTHERN NO, I'M, I'M SORRY, INDIVIDUAL.
ARE THEY 20? OH, WE WERE TRYING TO DO 20 FOOT WIDE LOTS AND 15 FOOT WIDE STRUCTURES ON ZERO LOT LINE.
THAT'S, UH, YEAH, THOSE ARE SHOTGUN HOUSES AND STAFF.
YOU, YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE INTENSITY OF DENSITY HERE, IS THAT
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CORRECT? CORRECT.WELL THERE, IT'S ADJACENT TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS THERE AND IT'S ON ITS OWN ISLAND PER SE.
AND SO, UM, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE LOOK FOR FOR INSTILL DEVELOPMENT OF A LOT.
AND AS, UM, CHAIR SAMANTHA NOTED, UM, CONSIDERING THAT THERE COULD BE DEVELOPED TWO AND A HALF STORY, THREE STORY, UH, R FIVE LOTS, UM, AND BEING ALIGNED WITH THE GOALS OF DIVERSITY OF HOUSING AND INCREASING DENSITY FOR THE POPULATION INCREASE 20 UNITS APPEARS TO BE APPROPRIATE.
ARE THESE FENCED, SO, UH, 20 UNITS I GUESS TO PATRICK.
PATRICK, ARE THESE INDIVIDUALLY FENCED? CORRECT.
AND THAT IS A CHAIN LINK FENCE OR PRIVACY? PRIVACY FENCE.
ON THE OTHER HOUSES AT R FOUR, UM, WHAT'S THE DRIVEWAY LIKE ON THESE? I MEAN, WE HAVE STAT CARS HERE, SO IN ORDER TO MOVE ONE, YOU GOTTA MOVE THE OTHER, WHICH GOTTA MOVE THE OTHER ONE BACK.
I MEAN, IT'S A LOT OF MOVING IN AND OUTTA CARS WITH THAT, WITH THAT DENSITY OF LOTS.
MOST OF THE DRIVEWAYS, AND THIS IS AN OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD, I MEAN PROBABLY PLATTED IN THE TWENTIES OR THIRTIES, MOST OF THE, MOST OF NOT ALL THE DRIVEWAYS ARE SINGLE FILE.
OH, ON THE R FOURS THEY ARE AS WELL? CORRECT.
AND THESE ARE FOR SALE, YOU THINK? CORRECT? YES.
WHAT, WHAT WOULD THEY BE FOR SALE FOR? THEY'RE TRYING TO GET IN THE 1 75 TO 2 25 RANGE, WHICH IS, IT'S TOUGH TO DO IN THE INNER CITY.
THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF THEIR GOAL.
THEY FEEL THAT'S WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL SUPPORT REALLY.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS? DID I SEE SOMEONE RAISE THEIR HAND? YES.
HAD SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, BUT I WAS, UH, CURIOUS ABOUT THE, UM, SETBACK FROM THE, UH, RAILROAD TRACKS TO THE, UH, THE FENCE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND I THINK I'M SEEING ABOUT A SIX FOOT SETBACK, IS THAT RIGHT? I, I BELIEVE, UM, WELL THAT'S A BUILDING SETBACK OF FIVE FEET, BUT THE, UM, THE FENCE LINE WILL BE ON THE PROPERTY LINE, WHICH KIND OF ABUTS RAILROAD RIGHT OF WAY.
SO THEN WHAT IS THE, UH, TOTAL, UH, SEPARATION BETWEEN THE RAILROAD TRACK AND THE FENCE LINE? OOH, PROBABLY, AND I APOLOGIZE, I I HAVEN'T MEASURED THAT OUT.
IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 25 TO 30 FEET.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, JUST ONE MORE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
AND, AND THIS IS JUST MORE FROM AN EDUCATION, PATRICK, WHEN THEY'RE DEVELOPING ALONG THE RAILROAD TRACKS DAYS, IS THERE ADDITIONAL SOUND PROOFING? WHAT, WHAT DOES THIS BUILD OR PLAN ON DOING IN ORDER TO MAKE THESE HOMES LIVABLE, GIVEN THE NOISE THAT WILL COME FROM THAT VERY BUSY, UH, TRAIN TRACK? RIGHT.
WELL, I MEAN THE, THE NEW WINDOWS, OF COURSE WILL BE BETTER THAN THE, THE EXISTING WINDOWS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY PLAN ON PUTTING DOUBLE PANE WINDOWS, UM, YOU KNOW, NEW CONSTRUCTION.
THERE'S NO CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR ANY EXTRA SOUNDPROOFING IN THE, IN THE, IN THE U D C.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND SEEING NONE? I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, UH, FOR STAFF.
UM, I BELIEVE WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IN LIGHT OF THE DENSITY CONCERNS AS WELL AS, UH, THE ISSUES REGARDING, UH, DEVELOPMENT ON THIS LAND, WHETHER IT'S SHAPE OR PROXIMITY TO RAILROAD TRACKS, IS ASK THE APPLICANT TO
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AMEND TO AN I D Z ONE, UH, BECAUSE I HAVE CONCERNS REGARDING THE FOUR STORIES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, UH, WITH THE MAXIMUM OF 15 UNITS.NOW, WOULD A NEW SITE PLAN BE REQUIRED STAFF? YES, SIR.
SO, UM, YES, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, COULD YOU, UM, COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHAT IS YOUR CONCERN WITH THE FOUR STORY PART OF THE PROJECT? OF COURSE, I'M HAPPY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE, THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, PRIMARILY R FOUR R FIVE.
UH, THIS IS A POCKET WITHIN IT.
SO EVEN THOUGH IT IS SORT OF FRONTING, UH, RIO CITY ROAD, UH, IT REALLY DOES HAVE THAT INTERVENING RAILROAD LINE AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, ORIENTAL TERMINATES RIGHT THERE.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IN LIGHT OF THAT, I THINK HAVING SORT OF THIS ISLAND OF FOUR STORY BUILDINGS THAT IS, YOU KNOW, SORT OF PART AND PARCEL, UH, WITH AN OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD, I THINK IS INAPPROPRIATE.
AND SO I THINK THE DENSITY IS, UH, ALTHOUGH I, I'D GIVE A LITTLE BIT IN LIGHT OF THE AREA AND SHAPE OF, UM, THE CURRENT PROPERTY.
UH, BUT THE, THE FOUR STORY DOES GIVE YOU PAUSE.
UM, IN LIGHT OF STAFF'S MENTION OF THE REQUIREMENT FOR A NEW SITE PLAN, UH, I'M GONNA PUT IT TO YOU, THE APPLICANT, MR. CHRISTENSEN.
UM, I CAN GIVE YOU A CONTINUANCE FOR TWO WEEKS TO PREPARE THAT SITE PLAN AT 15 UNITS OR I CAN MAKE AN ALTERNATE MOTION UP TO YOU.
COMMISSIONER PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, I, I BELIEVE, UH, IF I ACCEPT THE, YOUR REQUEST THAT I CHANGE MY APPLICATION TO I D Z ONE WITH 15 UNITS, I BELIEVE I CAN COME UP WITH A NEW SITE CLAIM BEFORE THIS GOES TO COUNCIL, BUT STAFF AND ZONING COMMISSION CAN APPROVE TODAY.
IS THAT CORRECT? STAFF? I THINK THAT'S TO YOU.
WELL, MR. CHRISTENSEN, WHILE WE'RE, WE'RE WAITING, UH, FOR THAT ANSWER, WHEN DOES IT GO TO, TO, UH, CITY COUNCIL? IT WOULD BE ONE MONTH FROM TODAY.
I'M LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR RIGHT NOW.
IT, I I WOULD HAVE A MONTH TO AMEND THE SITE PLAN AND, AND WE'VE AMENDED THE SITE PLAN NUMEROUS TIMES, BELIEVE MY CLIENT AND THE ARCHITECTS HAVE CAD FILES.
WE COULD TAKE CARE OF THAT PRETTY QUICKLY.
YEAH, I, I WOULD LIKE TO AVOID, AND I'LL PUT IT BACK OUT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I WOULD LIKE TO AVOID BRINGING YOU BACK.
UH, AGAIN, AS YOU NOTED, THIS WAS FIRST SET I THINK IN JUNE, UM, CORRECT.
BUT IF WE CAN'T, AND OF COURSE I CAN ALWAYS MAKE AN ALTERNATE MOTION, UH, MR. CHAIR.
YES, I'VE CONSULTED WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND, UH, TECHNICALLY THE, THE ZONING COMMISSION SHOULD SEE THE SITE PLAN.
AND SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT PERHAPS THE I, UH, THE ITEM SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR A CONTINUANCE UNTIL YOU'RE ABLE TO SEE THAT ACTUAL SITE PLAN.
UH, MR. CHRISTENSEN, WOULD YOU LIKE A CONTINUANCE FOR TWO WEEKS OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO MAKE AN ALTERNATE MOTION CONTINUANCE FOR TWO WEEKS? COMMISSIONER AND I WILL GET YOU A NEW SITE PLAN NEXT WEEK IMMEDIATELY IN LIGHT OF THE COMMENTS THAT I MADE DURING TODAY'S HEARING.
ALRIGHT, UH, IN THAT CASE, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO NOW MAKE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO FEBRUARY 16TH FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO.
AND I GOT A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, I THINK WAS FIRST.
UM, COMMISSIONER'S, UH, DISCUSSION.
UM, I, UM, I SUPPORT THE CHAIR'S MOTION TO, UH, PUSH FOR LESSER DENSITY IN THIS AREA.
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WE NEED TO DO INFILL DEVELOPMENT, I STILL THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO STAND THE TEST OF TIME IN THAT AREA.I, I DON'T FEEL WHAT WAS DESCRIBED WOULD NECESSARILY BE A POSITIVE, UH, IMPROVEMENT TO THE AREA.
AND AS FAR AS HOUSING STOCK THAT ONLY SUPPORTS A TWO BEDROOM, ONE BATH, UM, I THINK THAT WOULD APPEAL FOR TO VERY SMALL SECTOR HOUSING AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD ACHIEVE THE PRICE POINT HE'S WANTING BASED UPON THAT.
UH, FURTHER COMMENT, COMMISSIONERS DISCUSSION.
AND I JUST WANT TO ADD ONE OTHER THING, UH, REGARDING THIS, UH, WITH 15 UNITS THAT REMAINS SLIGHTLY DENSER THAN R FOUR.
SO THEY ARE GETTING SOME DENSITY IN LIGHT OF THE ODD CIRCUMSTANCES OF THIS PROPERTY, AS WELL AS THE BENEFIT OF AN I D Z TO, UM, AVOID THE SETBACKS FROM ANY R FOUR OR EVEN R THREE, UM, ZONING.
SO, UH, THAT BEING SAID, THERE IS A MOTION BY ME AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
MOTION PASSES 11 TO ZERO FOR CONTINUANCE TO FEBRUARY 16TH.
AND IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, PLEASE.
[4. 21-1500 (Continued from 01/19/21)ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700274 CD (Council District 5)]
NUMBER FOUR IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FOUR TO C TWO CD.ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES.
FULL SERVICE LOCATED AT FOUR 20 SOUTH SUN, SUN AUGUSTINE AVENUE.
15 WERE RECEIVED IN RECEIVED IN FAVOR.
ZERO WERE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM LAS PALM WEST NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THE CURRENT C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE AREA IS PRIMARILY OUR FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY WITH RESIDENTIAL USES.
C TWO COMMERCIAL IS NOT APPROPRIATE TO THE AREA OR MID-BLOCK SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL.
THE PROPOSED ZONING WOULD REPRESENT COMMERCIAL CREEPAGE INTO A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND THE REQUEST TAKES A MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL USE OF AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK REPAIR NORMALLY ALLOWED IN THE C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND ALLOWS IT TO BE CONDITIONED DOWN INTO THE C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? MR. YES, I'M HERE.
UH, SIR, IF YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION, UH, I SENT ONE EARLIER TODAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE ABLE TO, UH, PUT UP ONE OR RECEIVE THEM ON TIME.
WE'LL PULL, WE'LL PULL IT UP NOW.
UH, I HOPE IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE DOING SO, UM, ONCE WE GET IT UP, I'LL LET YOU KNOW.
AND THEN IF YOU WOULD, AS YOU GO THROUGH, UM, JUST IDENTIFY WHICH SLIDE YOU'D LIKE TO BE REFERRING TO.
AS YOU KNOW, MR. VILLIAN, THERE IS A SLIGHT LAG, UH, BETWEEN THAT WHICH IS PUBLICLY BROADCAST AND, UH, THAT WHICH IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW, IT IS NOT SUFFICIENT TO AVOID EITHER MY YELLING OR THE SCREAMING OF MY THREE AND A HALF YEAR OLD, BUT THERE IS SOME LACK, UH, STAFF.
DO WE HAVE THAT PRESENTATION? YES, SIR.
THE EQUIPMENT IS NOT COOPERATING AND SO IT'S LOADING, BUT IT'S TAKING A MOMENT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'D LIKE TO START.
UM, YES, I'D TAKE AND THEN YES SIR.
AND THEN WE CAN TELL YOU WHEN, WHEN THAT PRESENTATION IS APPARENT TO US.
MY NAME IS ARMANDO DELION AND UH, MY ADDRESS IS 1650 WEST ATCH.
AND, UM, AND, UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT BRIEF HISTORY OF THE, UH,
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OF THE PROPERTY THAT THE CURRENT BUSINESS, THE CURRENT BUSINESS LOCATED AT FOUR 20 SOUTH, SOUTH, SOUTH GENERAL MCMULLIN, WHICH IS RIGHT BEHIND THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REZONE.UH, MR. NAN, THE OWNER OF LINAS, UH, HE OBTAINED A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY BACK IN APRIL OF 2017.
SO HE'S BEEN OPERATING OUT OF THIS LOT FOR ALMOST THREE YEARS ALREADY OR FOUR YEARS.
MR. DEION, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THE PRESENTATION IS NOW UP.
THE C O O THAT WAS OBTAINED WAS ONLY FOR TO SELL CARS.
THE MOTOR VEHICLE SELLS ONLY ONE OF THE BIG THINGS OR CHALLENGES WITH THIS LOT IS THAT IT'S VERY SMALL.
IT'S ONLY 3,275 SQUARE FEET AND HE HAS AN OFFICE OF 300 SQUARE FEET RIGHT NOW.
SO WHAT HE HAS IS BASICALLY 2,900 SQUARE FEET, UH, OF LOT LEFT.
UH, THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE OF RIGHT NOW IS ONE, UH, THE GETTING IN AND GETTING OUT OF THIS PROPERTY, UH, SINCE THE LOT IS VERY SMALL AND GENERAL MCMULLAN IS VERY, VERY BUSY.
WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, IS VERY BUSY.
THIS MAKES IT A TREMENDOUS HAZARD FOR THE CUSTOMERS, UH, MR. UH, LINAS AND OF COURSE, HIS EMPLOYEES TO GET IN AND OUT OF THIS PROPERTY ONCE WHEN THEY'RE COMING TO WORK, WHEN PEOPLE ARE VISITING AND WHEN, UH, THEY EVEN TAKE A CAR FOR, FOR A RIDE, FOR, FOR, UH, JUST TO SHOW THE CAR.
UH, ALSO, UH, THERE'S NO REALLY ROOM TO IMPROVE THE SITE.
I MEAN, WE PLANTED ALREADY TWO TREES, UH, ON THE SIDE TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, ATTRACTIVE, BUT THERE'S NO ROOM TO IMPROVE IT.
WE PUT ANY LANDSCAPING ON, UH, GENERAL MCMULLAN SIDE OR ON THE SIDE OF THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ON EACH SIDE.
I MEAN, THAT TAKES A LOT MORE ROOM FROM OUR LITTLE 3,200 SQUARE FOOT LOT THAT WE HAVE.
SO WHAT WE DID OR WE, HE WENT AND PURCHASED A LOT BEHIND HIM.
UH, AND THIS IS WHAT, WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROPOSING TO REZONE IT.
I KNOW WE ASKED FOR A C TWO CD ZONING, BUT WE'RE WILLING TO BRING IT DOWN TO A C ONE, CD FOUR MOTOR VEHICLE CELLS ONLY.
WE DON'T WANT TO EVEN, UH, DO ANY MOTOR VEHICLES, UH, REPAIRS, NOTHING LIKE THAT.
WE JUST WANT TO HAVE AN OFFICE, UH, WHERE WE COULD TAKE IT OUT OF THE FRONT SMALL LITTLE LOT AND RELOCATE IT ON THE BACK.
UH, SO WE WILL DO, UH, THE OFFICE ON THE BACK PROVIDE A LOT MORE LANDSCAPING, WHICH MAKES THIS LIKE VERY ATTRACTIVE, UH, AND, AND, AND, AND PLANT SOME TREES.
UH, THE SITE ALREADY HAS TWO NICE TREES WHERE WE ARE STILL COULD PROVIDE MORE TREES TO BUFFER FROM THE NEIGHBORS.
UH, WE ALREADY PUT A, A WOOD FENCE THAT SURROUNDS THE PROPERTY AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS LOVE THAT.
THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS LOVE THAT.
UH, WE WILL, THERE IS A, A GATE, AN ACCESS TO SAN THING THAT WE ARE WILLING TO CLOSE, CONVERT IT INTO A PEDESTRIAN GATE JUST FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS IN CASE FIRE DEPARTMENT, E M SS POLICE, ANYBODY NEEDS TO COME INTO THE SITE.
WE HAVE A GATE CONNECTED FROM SAN AUGUSTINE, AND OF COURSE THE MAIN GATE WILL BE OUT OF, UH, OUT OF, UH, GENERAL MCMULLIN.
SO ALL THE TRAFFIC, ALL THE CUSTOMERS WILL BE ORIENTATED TO GENERAL MCM.
AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE BY, BY REZONING THIS CASE IS PROVIDE SAFETY, SAFETY FOR OUR CUSTOMERS, EMPLOYEES AND, AND, AND THE DRIVERS, UM, AND ALL OUR CUSTOMERS AND THE, THE PEOPLE THAT DRIVE IN AND OUT OF THIS PROPERTY.
UH, BY DOING THAT ON THE SITE PLAN, AND YOU'LL SEE IT RIGHT NOW, WE, WE IDENTIFIED OUR CUSTOMER PARKING AND WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THE TURNAROUND AND NOW WE IDENTIFY LANDSCAPING IN OUR OFFICE LOCATION.
AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THE SITE MAP IN A MINUTE.
WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING ON, UH, ON THIS PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REONE OVER THE LAST YEAR.
SO, UM, MR. NAN HAS FIRST THING HE DID ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
UH, HE HIMSELF WENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL OFFICE, TOLD HIM ABOUT THE CHALLENGES HE HAD AND WHAT HE WANTED TO DO TO EXPAND THE BUSINESS AND, UM, AND MAKE THIS PROPERTY, UH, MUCH ATTRACTIVE.
UM, HE WENT TO, TO THE, TO THE COUNCIL.
COUNCIL, DIRECTED HIM TO GO TALK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND MORE, MORE THAN ANYTHING, TO GO TALK TO THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS BECAUSE MORE THAN,
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MORE THAN THE H O A MORE THAN THE PRESENT, MORE THAN ANYBODY, THE ONES THAT ARE REALLY GONNA GET IMPACTED ARE THE NEIGHBORS.SO HE DID, OVER THE PAST YEAR, HE HEARD WHAT THE H O A WANTED.
HE HEARD WHAT THE PRESIDENT WANTED, HE HEARD WHAT THE NEIGHBORS WANTED, AND HE'S BEEN DOING IT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THEY, THEY, THEY WANTED WAS A FENCE, A WOOD FENCE THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD, UM, PREVENT FROM LOOKING AT INTO THIS BUSINESSES.
UH, THEY ALSO TOLD HIM TO CLEAN THE PROPERTY BEFORE HE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY.
UH, THERE WAS, UH, UH, TRANSIENT PEOPLE LIVING IN HERE.
THERE WAS, UH, THE OFFICE, THE LITTLE 300 SQUARE OFFICE WAS HOMELESS, WERE INSIDE.
HE FOUND ALL KINDS OF STUFF IN THERE.
SO THEY TOLD HIM TO CLEAN THE PROPERTY, WHICH HE HAS DONE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
AND OVER THE LAST YEAR, HE'S DONE A LOT MORE.
UM, SO, UH, SO WHEN, WHEN MR. HERNANDEZ, ONCE HE THOUGHT HE HAD EVERYBODY SATISFIED ON ALL THE WORK HE'S DONE, HE WENT DOOR TO DOOR TO ALL THE NEIGHBORS.
HE GOT 15 SIGNATURES, UH, TO, UH, TO SITE WITH HIM THAT HE WAS OKAY FOR HIM TO EXPAND 'CAUSE HE'S NOW BECOMING A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
UH, THERE WAS OTHER PEOPLE THAT, UH, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SIGN AND NOT BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT IN FAVOR FOR HIM, THEY JUST DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO THE POLITICS.
THEY DIDN'T WANNA DO ANYTHING.
SO THEY, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED, WHICH IS FINE TOO, BUT THEY, THEY, THEY DIDN'T VOTE AGAINST IT.
THEY JUST DIDN'T WANNA, UH, GO.
BUT WE HAVE SIGNATURES FROM THE BUSINESSES AND WE HAVE SIGNATURES FROM THE ADJACENT OWNERS ALL APPROVING HIS, UH, EXPANSION AND MORE OR LESS, MORE ANYTHING THANKING THEM FOR IMPROVING THE, THE SITE.
IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WE COULD GO TO THE SITE PLAN.
YOU'LL SEE ON, UH, THE EXISTING SITE, THE EXISTING ON THE, ON THE GENERAL MCMULLIN PROPERTY.
THAT'S WHERE HE'S GONNA MOVE HIS OFFICE TO THE REAR AND CREATE MORE PARKING FOR HIMSELF.
RIGHT NOW ON THE SITE PLAN, WE HAVE ABOUT ABOUT NINE 18 PARKING SPACES.
AND TWO OF THOSE PARKING SPACES WILL DESIGNATE A CUSTOMER PARKING.
WE HAVE TWO AREAS OF NO PARKING ON THOSE.
THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GONNA USE TO TURN AROUND ANY CUSTOMERS, ANY CARS THAT GOING THROUGH THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REZONE RIGHT NOW.
SO THOSE CARS THAT GO INTO THE REZONING AREA WILL HAVE TO COME BACK, TURN AROUND AT THAT NOTE PARKING AND GO INTO GENERAL MCMULLAN, UH, FACING FORWARD AND NOT BACKING INTO THE STREET.
I MEAN, WE HAVE SO MANY CLOSE CALLS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE, THE LOT IS VERY SMALL AND PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO TURN AROUND AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T LISTEN AND THEY JUST BACK UP INTO THE STREET AND, AND THAT'S WHERE WE GET NERVOUS.
SO YES, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS PROPERTY BETTER.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS MOVING THIS OFFICE TO THE REAR AND IMPROVING THE REAR SIDE.
THE, THE, THE, THE SAN AUGUSTINE UH, PROPERTY.
WE'RE IMPROVING IT WITH THE LANDSCAPE, WITH TREES, WITH TWO PARKING SPACES AND WITH THE OFFICE.
NOW, THE OFFICE, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA GO AND JUST PUT A REGULAR SQUARE FOOT, A SQUARE BUILDING.
WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE CHARACTERISTICS OF ALL THE HOUSES ADJACENT TO IT AND MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A RESIDENTIAL HOME.
SO WHEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH THERE, YOU'LL SEE IT.
IT'S STILL GONNA LOOK LIKE A RESIDENTIAL HOUSE FROM SANTA AUGUSTINE.
SO THAT IT IS REALLY IS, WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, I HEARD WHAT YOU GUYS SAID LAST WEEK.
ALL THE COMMISSIONERS SAID THAT WE WERE ENCROACHING INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD.
WELL, WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE THE SITE AND WE TRY TO STILL KEEP IT AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOOK, BUT, BUT WE'RE TRYING ALSO TO MAKE THIS PROPERTY A LOT BETTER.
UM, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS EXPLAINING, THE, UM, THE SITE LAB.
BUT THE LAST SLIDE I, ONE OF THE LAST SLIDE IS, IS A CONDITION.
WE HEARD WHAT THE H O A WANTED AND WE'RE, WE'RE NOT AGAINST IT.
UH, WE WELCOME THOSE CONDITIONS AND LET ME READ IT.
ONE OF THE, ONE, THE CONDITION WAS KEEP THE WOOD FENCE AS IT IS.
KEEP IT IN GOOD, GOOD STANDING.
UH, PROVIDE ADEQUATE LIGHTING AWAY FROM THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS.
UH, THE OPERATION OF, UH, OF THE BUSINESS WILL BE MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, SATURDAY, 10 TO SEVEN.
NO ADVERTISING ON THIS LOT, UH, NO VEHICLE REPAIRS, NO LOG MUSIC, NO VEHICLE OR ACCESS ON SAN AUGUSTINE.
MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY CLEAN AND ATTRACTIVE.
AND IF WE COULD BRING IT DOWN TO A C ONE CD, WE WERE, WE CAN, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT AGAINST IT.
THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS A PICTURE OF HOW THE EXISTING LOT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REZONE LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW.
IT'S ALL CLEAN, IT'S ALL, UM, VERY ATTRACTIVE.
YOU HAVE THE BEAUTIFUL TREES AND WE'RE
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TRYING TO ADD EVEN MORE TREES.IF THAT IS THE TIME WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO YOU, UH, IF THERE IS PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL.
YOU CAN CHOOSE TO USE THAT TO REBUT OR YOU CAN CHOOSE TO GO CONTINUE WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.
UH, STAFF, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DO HAVE ONE VOICEMAIL TO PLAY.
FELIPE AND GUADALUPE ADDRESS? FOUR 14 SOUTH JOHN MCMULLIN.
AND WE HAVE NO PROBLEM REZONING.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT STAFF, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE, SIR.
UM, MR. DELEON, UH, LIKE I SAID, YOU CAN CONTINUE YOUR PRESENTATION.
THE EXISTING SITE SLIDE IS STILL UP OR YOU CAN ADDRESS ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT FOR TWO MINUTES.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DON'T KNOW, I DIDN'T SEE, OR MAYBE I WAS, UH, I WAS, SINCE IT'S A DELAY, I DIDN'T SEE OF THE MAP THAT SHOWS ALL THE NEIGHBORS THAT SUBMITTED, UH, UH, UH, UH, ONE OF OUR, OUR TEMPLATES IN FAVOR OF THIS REZONING.
UH, WHAT WE DID, UH, MR. LINAS, WHEN, WHEN HE WENT DOOR TO DOOR, WE PREPARED A TEMPLATE AND WE SEND IT WITH HIM.
AND WHEN HE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT, UH, HE HAD GONE TO THE NEIGHBORS AND HE HAD EXPLAINED THE CASE, THEY WENT AHEAD AND SIGNED AND GIVE THEIR PHONE NUMBERS.
SO HE DID IT TO ALL THE NEIGHBORS.
AND LIKE I SAID, SOME OF THEM SIGNED, SOME OF 'EM WERE NOT OPPOSED, BUT, UH, THEY JUST DIDN'T WANNA, UH, GET INTO THIS, UH, THIS, THIS, UM, REZONING CASE.
THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO ALL THE POLITICS AND ALL THAT, BUT WE GOT 50 TO SIGN OUT OF.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HE VISITED, LIKE 30 OF 'EM HE VISITED, BUT WE GOT AT LEAST HALF OF 'EM.
AND THOSE ARE THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE ON IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE MAP THAT SHOWS THAT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HE GOT SIGNATURES FROM.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE SAFETY AND OF COURSE WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, OBEY BY WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WANTS, WHICH MAKES THIS PROPERTY MAKE IT LOOK A LOT BETTER THAN WHAT IT IS NOW.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE REZONING, UH, FOR MR. SALINA.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. DELEON.
UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE.
UM, AS MR. DELEON INDICATED, UH, IT WAS BEFORE US AT THE LAST MEETING.
UM, STAFF, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
UM, YOU KNOW, MR. DELEON INDICATED THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CONDITIONS, UH, THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO HIM.
THOSE CONDITIONS WOULD ONLY APPLY TO, UH, THE FOUR 20, UH, SAN AUGUSTINE PROPERTY, CORRECT? YES SIR, THAT'S CORRECT.
UH, SO THEN A QUESTION FOR YOU, UH, MR. DELEON AND STAFF, IF WE COULD PULL UP THE SITE PLAN PLEASE? I'D LIKE TO REFER TO THAT.
UM, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR ON ONE THING, MR. DUD.
LEON, I HOPE THAT YOU'RE EITHER, YOU HAVE THE SITE PLAN IN FRONT OF YOU OR YOU CAN SEE WHAT IS ON THE SCREEN.
THERE WILL BE, UH, THE CLOSEST TO GENERAL MCMULLEN ALL OUR DISPLAYED.
THAT LOT WILL BE THE, WHERE WE PARK ALL THE CARS.
AND SO, UH, FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS REZONING, THE ONLY CARS THAT WOULD BE BACK ON THE FOUR 20 SOUTH SIGN AUGUSTINE PROPERTY WOULD BE, UM, THE OWNER'S CAR, BUT NOT CARS FOR SALE, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, YES.
THAT WOULD BE THE, THE CUSTOMERS OR THE OWNER OR EMPLOYEE PARTY? YES.
UM, ALRIGHT, I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS FOR QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONERS, UH, COMMISSIONER MCGEE.
SO DID WE DETERMINE IF, UH, C ONE CD WOULD BE AN ACCEPTABLE, UM, ZONING
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STAFF? I BELIEVE THAT QUESTION'S FOR YOU AND I THOUGHT WE RESOLVED THAT LAST TIME, BUT I WOULD LIKE CONFIRMATION AS WELL.I'M SORRY, SIR, CAN YOU, CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? OF COURSE.
UH, THE QUESTION WAS WHETHER OR NOT THE C THREE USE, UH, FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES WOULD BE AVAILABLE AS A CONDITIONAL USE IN C ONE AND COMMISSIONER MCGEE? CORRECT ME IF I MISSTATED THAT IN ANY WAY? THAT'S GOOD, THANK YOU.
THERE A C ONE CD COULD BE UTILIZED.
COMMISSIONER MCGEE? ANY, SORRY, COMMISSIONER MCGEE.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? NO, THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS? UH, YES.
UH, THE, UH, CONDITION STATED THAT THERE WAS NO VEHICULAR ACCESS, BUT HE'S, HE MENTIONED NO, HE, THAT HE WANTED EMERGENCY ACCESS ON THAT STREET.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS TO MR. MR. DEION? UM, UH, YES, UH, WE WERE, WE WERE PROPOSING TO BRING IT DOWN FROM A, FROM A VEHICLE OR GATE TO JUST A PEDESTRIAN GATE COMING OUT OF SAN AUGUSTINE.
UH, WE WILL STILL HAVE A, A, A PEDESTRIAN GATE JUST FOR ANY EMERGENCY ACCESS, UH, FIREMEN TO GO IN, POLICE TO GO IN E M S TO GO IN, YOU KNOW, JUST A, A GATE FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS.
WE'RE NOT GONNA USE AN NA AUGUSTINE FOR THE V THE ENTRANCE THAT IS RIGHT NOW A DRIVEWAY.
WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT GONNA USE IT.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER SIPES.
UH, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UM, ON THE, UH, PROVIDED SITE PLAN, I, I SEE NOTES OF A 15 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
ONE IS, IS THAT REQUIRED BECAUSE IT'S ADJACENT TO, UM, RESIDENTIAL AND WOULD THEREFORE BE MAINTAINED? AND MY OTHER QUESTION IS, UM, FOR WHAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE REAR SETBACK, ALTHOUGH IT FACES SAN AUGUSTINE, UM, CAN A CONDITION WOULD, WOULD WE AS A COMMISSION BE ABLE TO PUT A CONDITION THAT THAT, THAT, UM, REAR SETBACK BE INCREASED? AND WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS IS TRYING TO MAKE IT FIT IN WITH THE REST OF THE HOMES ON THAT STREET AS FAR AS LIKE THE, SO THAT WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN, YOU DON'T HAVE A BUILDING RIGHT UP AGAINST THE STREET.
YOU'VE GOT A BUILDING THAT'S SET BACK WHERE THE REST OF THE HOUSES ARE.
COMMISSIONER SIPS, I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? WE WERE HAVING A LIGHT LIGHTLY DISCUSSION OVER HERE ABOUT THE USE ITSELF AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE OKAY.
GIVING YOU THE CORRECT INFORMATION.
YEAH, UH, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL SHORTEN IT.
UM, THE 15 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER QUESTION ONE IS, IS THAT A REQUIREMENT BECAUSE IT'S, UH, COMMERCIAL ZONING ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL.
AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION IS, CAN THE REAR SETBACK OR THE SETBACK THAT'S UP AGAINST SAN AUGUSTINE, CAN THAT AS PART OF THE CONDITIONS BE INCREASED? SO THE ANSWER TO BOTH OF YOUR QUESTIONS IS YES AND YES.
AND THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SIPES, UH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL AND THEN COMMISSIONER ROMERO.
SO THIS QUESTION IS FOR STAFF BECAUSE I, I AM AGAIN, WRESTLING WITH BRINGING AN INTENSE USE DOWN INTO A LOT THAT SITS IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL SIDE.
FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T BELIEVE, CAN YOU CLARIFY AGAIN THAT IT WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE TO BRING DOWN A C THREE USE TO C ONE CD? DOES IT STAY C TWO CD OR ARE WE STILL CONSIDERING
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C ONE CD? IF YOU'RE ASKING US, YOU CAN UTILIZE C ONE CD OR C TWO CD.IT, IT IS AT THE DISCRETION OF THE ZONING COMMISSION.
THAT SAID, THE LOT WHERE YOU'RE ZONING IS THE LOT IN THE BACK AND BY GIVING THAT LOT C TWO CD AND THE BEST INTENTIONS TODAY, BUT SHOULD THAT CURRENT OWNER SELL THE PROPERTY, ANYONE COULD THEN START PARKING AND SELLING VEHICLES FROM THAT PARTICULAR LOT, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, MA'AM.
UM, THAT'S ALL I NEEDED TO KNOW.
CAN WE JUST SEE THAT LIST OF CONDITIONS AGAIN THAT THEY WERE PROPOSING? AND IF NOT, UM, I MEAN I ALSO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS TOO, AND I MEAN SOME OF THESE DON'T REALLY SEEM ENFORCEABLE, UM, MAINTAIN PROPERTY AND CLEAN AND ATTRACTIVE, UM, NO LOUD MUSIC.
UM, THOSE AREN'T DETAILED ENOUGH TO BE ENFORCEABLE CONDITIONS.
SO AGAIN, I DON'T REALLY SUPPORT THIS, BUT UM, JUST IF WE WERE TO, IF THERE WERE TO BE A MOTION FOR THIS WITH THEIR CONDITIONS, I THINK THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT AND GET SOME GUIDANCE ON FROM OUR, FROM STAFF.
YES, THERE ARE SOME, GO AHEAD.
THERE ARE CERTAIN ONES THAT CAN BE UTILIZED, BUT THERE ARE OTHERS THAT, THAT WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ENFORCE AND WE CAN GO THROUGH THOSE IF YOU'D LIKE.
LET ME, LET ME START OFF IF I MAY.
I THINK WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION LAST TIME, AT LEAST IN PART, BUT WITH RESPECT TO NO LOUD MUSIC, WE COULD, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, DEFINE THAT TO BE NO AMPLIFIED SOUND SYSTEMS, BUT UNDER, UH, C ONE, IF WE WERE TO GO C ONE CD, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE LAST MEETING WAS THAT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN ANY OF EVENT.
SO IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE A CONDITION FOR THE C ONE USE STAFF.
YOU'D LIKE US TO GO THROUGH THE CONDITIONS NOW? I WOULD, BUT JUST ON, IF YOU COULD START WITH THAT ONE REALLY QUICKLY SO THAT WE CAN, 'CAUSE I THOUGHT WE ADDRESSED THAT LAST TIME.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M NOT MAKING THINGS UP.
UH, WE DID, WE DID DISCUSS GOING TO A C ONE CD AND THAT, AND WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT LIMITS THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT AND IT IS ALREADY GONNA REGULATE OUTDOOR NOISE.
UM, AS FAR AS FENCING, UM, WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE ABLE TO REGULATE FENCING BETWEEN, UH, C TWO AND C THREE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT REALLY A REQUIREMENT THERE.
BUT AGAINST THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, WE CAN, UM, HAVE THE FENCING.
AND, UH, THE DOWNWARD FACING LIGHTING, I THINK IS HOW I HAD THE CONDITION.
WHAT ABOUT THAT CONDITION? OH, YES SIR.
UH, DOWNWARD FACING LIGHTING IT AND HOURS OF OPERATION, OF COURSE.
UH, NO TEMPORARY SIGNS, TENANTS, ALL OF THAT.
UM, THAT YOU CAN ALSO STIPULATE THAT THERE ARE NO REPAIRS.
HOWEVER, REALIZE THAT THIS REQUEST IS FOR FULL SERVICE.
SO, UM, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE OFFICE IS GOING TO BE ON THAT SITE AND NOT NECESSARILY VEHICLES, BUT, UM, THAT ONE MIGHT BE A, A DIFFICULT ONE.
UM, C ONE DOES REGULATE THE, THE, THE AMPLIFICATION OF NOISE AND YOU CAN HAVE A CONDITION ABOUT THE AMPLIFICATION OF NOISE AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE YOU'VE DONE IT BEFORE, NO VEHICULAR ACCESS, UM, TO A CERTAIN STREET SO THAT YOU CAN ALSO HAVE THAT AS CONDITION.
NOW LEMME ASK FOR THE FINAL, FOR THE FINAL ONE JUST TO COVER 'EM ALL.
UH, WE, WE CANNOT ENFORCE MAINTENANCE.
I MEAN, IF IT'S OVERGROWN, OF COURSE ENFORCEMENT WILL GO AND TAKE A LOOK, BUT THAT'S NOT TYPICALLY A CONDITION.
UM, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE IF WE CAN.
UH, I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER MEADOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE DONE.
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OKAY.IF WE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT, UH, WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SORT OF CONDITIONS, UM, WITH RESPECT TO WHAT COMMISSIONER SIPES, UM, HAS DONE OR HAS INQUIRED ABOUT, UM, COULD WE MAKE A CONDITION SUCH THAT THE SETBACK FROM SAN AUGUSTINE IS WITHIN 10% OF THE AVERAGE SETBACK FOR PROP FOR HOMES ON THE SAN AUGUSTINE SIDE? YOU, YOU CAN REQUEST A SETBACK, BUT, BUT DOING IT THROUGH PERCENTAGES OR A CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, MEDIAN, THAT'S GONNA BE DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE.
SO IF YOU HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER IN MIND THAT, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
COMMISSIONER SLOS, DO YOU HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER IN MIND? UH, 20 TO 25 FEET.
I WAS LOOKING AT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GOOGLE MAPS AND I'M SEEING, YOU KNOW, ADJACENT HOLMES AND ALL THAT AND I'M SEEING IT'S LIKE, OKAY, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE ONE CAR PARKED IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE, SO I'M THINKING UP 20 FEET OR SO WOULD PUT IT ROUGHLY IN LINE, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT.
UH, MR. DELEON, UM, IF WE WERE TO REQUEST A CONDITION OF 25 FEET SET BACK FROM SAN AUGUSTINE FOR THE BUILDING, UH, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO ACCEPT THAT? UH, IF THAT'S, UH, I MEAN I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT, AT THE GOOGLE ALERT TO SEE, UH, WHERE THE HOUSE IS ALIGNED, BUT IF THAT'S THE, THAT'S WHERE THE ADJACENT PROPERTY ALIGNS, THEN YES, WE, WE WILL BE WILLING TO DO THAT.
UM, HAVEN'T FINALIZED THAT CONDITION, BUT I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS.
AND, AND ACTUALLY LET ME, LEMME START WITH MR. DELEON IF I MAY.
MR. DELEON, I'M GONNA DO THIS FORMALLY, HOPEFULLY IN A SECOND.
UM, BUT RIGHT NOW THE C TWO SEEMS TO BE OFF THE TABLE.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR OR WHAT YOU HAVE DESCRIBED IS A C ONE CONDITIONAL USE, UH, C ONE CD WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES, CORRECT? CORRECT.
WE DON'T, SO WE WERE GONNA DROP THE REPAIRS.
UH, SO THE LAST MEETING WE'RE GONNA SEE ONE CD FOR, UH, MOTOR VEHICLE SALES ONLY AND WE WERE GONNA DROP THE REPAIR.
ALRIGHT, UM, STAFF, IN LIGHT OF THAT, DO WE NEED A CONDITION ON VEHICLE REPAIRS? NO SIR.
IF I WERE TO REQUEST THAT NO VEHICLES FOR SALE BE ON THIS, UH, 4 22 SAN SOUTH SAN AUGUSTINE PROPERTY.
IS THAT A CONDITION I COULD ASK? NO SIR.
BECAUSE THE C ONE CD BY RIGHT? IS ALLOWING MOTOR VEHICLE SALES.
YOU ARE, THEY ARE ASKING FOR THAT USE AND THAT'S THE USE THEY GET.
NOW, IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU WANT TO LIMIT LIKE, DISPLAY OF VEHICLES ON THAT PROPERTY, THAT'S DIFFERENT, BUT YOU CAN'T LIMIT THE SALE BECAUSE TECHNICALLY IF THE OFFICE IS ON THAT PROPERTY, AND THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE DOING BUSINESS TRANSACTIONS, THEY'RE SELLING.
THAT IS A BETTER ANSWER THAN MY QUESTION DESERVED.
NOW, MR. DELEON THEN, UM, IN LIGHT OF THAT, IF I WERE TO ASK FOR A CONDITION THAT SAID NO DISPLAY OF VEHICLES ON THE SAN AUGUSTINE PROPERTY, COULD YOU AGREE TO THAT? UH, YES.
WE MAINLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND, YES, WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE THE OFFICE TO THE BACK IN ORDER TO MAKE MORE ROOM ON THE FRONT LOT AND PROVIDE PROPER TURNAROUND.
OUR GOAL IS TO MOVE THE, UH, OFFICE TO THE BACK, CREATE SOME PARKING.
NOW, IN REGARDS TO WHAT, WHAT I HEARD RIGHT NOW ABOUT SELLING CARS ON, ON, ON, UH, ON THE PROPERTY, WE'RE ASKING ON THOSE AUGUSTINE ONE, UH, YES.
I MEAN THAT IS A POSSIBILITY ANYBODY CAN DO, BUT, BUT THE C O O WILL REQUIRE US THAT 15 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER ON EACH SIDE OF THE RESIDENTIAL.
SO THERE IS NO, NO MORE ROOM FOR US TO DO ANY DISPLAY OF CARS IN THAT AREA.
I MEAN, THE, THE CODE IS VERY, VERY CLEAR ON WHAT WE CAN DO AND WE'LL LIMIT BECAUSE
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OF THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE ON EACH SIDE.SO THIS IS WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE.
THAT'S IT,
I THINK THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE AT THIS POINT.
LAST ONE LAST TIME FOR MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
I DO NOT SEE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, SO IN THIS CASE, UM, MR. DEION, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO NOW IS GO OVER SOME CONDITIONS AND THEN, UM, I WILL ASK IF YOU ARE FORMALLY, UH, AMENDING YOUR REQUEST.
UM, BUT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HOURS OF OPERATION MR. DELEON, AND YOU WOULD ACCEPT MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, 10:00 AM TO 7:00 PM THAT IS CORRECT, YES.
AND DOWNWARD FACING LIGHTING ON THE SAN AUGUSTINE PROPERTY, CORRECT? YES.
UH, MAINTAIN THE PRIVACY FENCE IN BETWEEN, UH, THE SAN AUGUSTINE PROPERTY AND NEIGHBORING RESIDENTIAL? THAT IS CORRECT, YES, WE DO, UH, ACCESS TO FROM SAN AUGUSTINE WILL BE CLOSED AND KEPT AS EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY? YES.
UH, NO DISPLAY OF VEHICLES FOR SALE ON THE SAN AUGUSTINE PROPERTY? UH, YES, UH, NO.
TEMPORARY SIGNAGE, PENANCE, WIND WAVES, OR FLYERS ON THE SAN AUGUSTINE PROPERTY? YES.
AND A 20 FOOT SETBACK FROM SAN AUGUSTINE? YES.
NOW, MR. DELEON, WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING, UH, C ONE CD WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES.
DO YOU FORMALLY AMEND YOUR, UH, REQUEST TO THAT WE AMEND THAT TO, UH, READ C ONE CD FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES ONLY? YES.
AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, AS AMENDED FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED C ONE CD WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, ONE HOURS OF OPERATION MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, 10:00 AM TO 7:00 PM TWO DOWNWARD FACING LIGHTING, THREE MAINTENANCE, UH, MAINTAIN PRIVACY FENCE, UH, ON, I'M SORRY, MAINTAIN PRIVACY FENCE ON PROPERTIES THAT NEIGHBOR RESIDENTIAL, THAT WAS TERRIBLE.
UM, ACCESS TO AND FROM SAN AUGUSTINE WILL BE CLOSED AND KEPT AS EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY.
NO DISPLAY OF VEHICLES FOR SALE ON ST.
UH, SIX, NO TEMPORARY SIGNAGE, PENANCE, WIND WAVES OR FLYERS.
AND SEVEN A 20 FOOT SETBACK FROM ST.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL, UH, AS AMENDED WITH THE CONDITIONS AS STATED ON THE RECORD.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? YES.
ALRIGHT, A DISCUSSION, UH, COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER O I, UM, I'M REALLY SORRY I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS, UM, BECAUSE OF ALL THE EFFORT YOU PUT INTO IT AND IT'S ALL GREAT AND IF THE PASSES THIS WILL BE BETTER BECAUSE OF THE EFFORT YOU PUT INTO IT.
AND I DON'T HAVE ANY IN DOUBTS ABOUT THE APPLICANT'S INTENT TO DO EVERYTHING THEY SAY, BUT I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT A C THROUGH USE IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL BLOCK.
SO I'M SORRY IF I'M BEING A STICKLER FOR IT, BUT I, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A, A MAJOR PRECEDENT THAT WE WOULD BE SETTING.
SO AGAIN, I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE ALL YOU'VE DONE ON THIS, BUT I I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS ONE.
WELL, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER LL I BELIEVE I SAW COMMISSIONER SIPES.
AND UM, YOU KNOW, I I I I SHARE THE CONCERNS THAT I'M SURE HAVE BEEN, HAVE BEEN VOICED AND WILL BE VOICED AND I WAS ONE THAT VOTED, UH, LAST TIME FOR DENIAL AND IT'S STILL A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT DECISION.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, FOR ME, I, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S REAL HARD BECAUSE WE ARE PULLING THAT, THAT USE INTO THE MIDDLE OF A BLOCK.
UM, BUT I THINK WE'RE KIND OF, IT'S THAT USE ONLY IN NAME ONLY, UM, SINCE IT'S JUST THE, UM, BASICALLY AN ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.
UM, AND WITH THE EXTRA CONDITIONS, I, I'M KIND OF LEANING TOWARD APPROVAL THIS TIME, BUT IT'S, IT'S TENTATIVE
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AND I'M, SO I'M CURIOUS TO HEAR OTHERS' OPINIONS AS WELL.YES, AND I, AGAIN, RECOGNIZING YOUR VALIANT EFFORTS TO MAKE THIS WORK FOR THE APPLICANT AND I, I CAN'T APPRECIATE THAT, BUT AGAIN, FOR ME IT'S ABOUT THE USE THAT IS BEING REQUESTED FOR THAT PARTICULAR LOT AND I THINK, UH, WITH THE GREATEST INTENT OF INTENTIONS BEING SET UP HERE, THE PROBLEM THEN FALLS TO REQUIRING THE CITY TO COME BACK AND TO TRY AND ENFORCE ALL OF THIS.
AND I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE PUTTING OURSELVES, UH, IN A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION AND, AND OPENING UP THE DOOR THEN FOR FUTURE SIMILAR REQUESTS THAT ARE GONNA ALSO BE AS DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE.
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
UM, I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
UM, I TYPICALLY WOULD NOT SUPPORT THIS AND IN FACT THERE WAS WAS A CASE IN MY DISTRICT, MAYBE LIKE A YEAR AGO THAT WAS SOMEWHAT SIMILAR EXCEPT THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO THE SALES, THE DISPLAY AND EVERYTHING ON THE LOT THAT WAS RIGHT NEXT TO SOME SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
UM, AND I, AND I REALLY, YOU KNOW, THAT WE ENDED UP DENYING THAT, RECOMMENDING FOR DENIAL ON THAT CASE.
UM, BUT I FEEL LIKE THE CONCESSIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE, AND I, AND I ECHO WHAT COMMISSIONER SIPES I THINK SAID SO ELOQUENTLY THAT THIS IS REALLY THE USE IN NAME ONLY.
WE REALLY JUST HAVE A BUILDING WITH A COUPLE OF PARKING SPACES AND THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A LOT OF MOVEMENT, NOT A LOT OF LIGHTING, UM, IF THE CARS ARE GONNA BE EXITING ON THE GENOMIC MALL AND WE DON'T HAVE AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC.
SO WHEN I'M THINKING ABOUT THE ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OR HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE OR OTHER PUBLIC POLICY GOALS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING AT AS A ZONING COMMISSION.
I FEEL LIKE THOSE HAVE TAKEN CARE OF THROUGH YOUR VALIANT EFFORTS, UM, AND THE EFFORTS OF THE APPLICANT TO, TO KIND OF WORK WITH AND, AND MAKE COMPROMISES.
AND I ALSO THINK THAT, UM, AGREEING TO THE SETBACK SO THAT WE HAVE SOME UNIFORMITY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ALSO, UM, FOR ME THAT THOSE ARE ALL THE REASONS THAT I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
UH, OTHER COMMISSIONERS DISCUSSION PER, UH, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS UNIFORMITY AND THIS PARTICULAR LOT WOULD BE A HOUSE OR A VACANT LOT.
IT'S, IT'S RESIDENTIAL AND I THINK THIS IS WHERE WE AS COMMISSIONERS, UH, SERVE THE PUBLIC AT THIS TIME.
TO PUT A COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION ON A OBVIOUSLY RESIDENTIAL LOT WOULD BE HARMFUL TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
YOU CAN SEE DIRECTLY TO THE VERY BACKSIDE LINE OVER TO GENERAL MCMULLEN.
YOU'VE OPENED UP THAT LOT FOR THE SOUND BARRIER TO BE GONE.
UM, I, I'M, I'M SURPRISED WE'VE TAKEN THIS LONG TO HAVE A DISCUSSION OF A RESIDENTIAL LOT INTO A COMMERCIAL LOT.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S OUT OF THE NORM.
LET'S BE, UH, COGNIZANT OF THE NEIGHBORS AROUND IT WHO HAVE TO LIVE A LIFE AND THEY SHOULD LIVE IT WITH PEACE AND WELLBEING AND NOT THE EXHAUST OF CARS COMING AND GOING.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? FELLOW COMMISSIONERS? IF NOT, I WILL ASK FOR THE LAST WORD AND GIVE IT TO MYSELF.
UM, I UNDERSTAND, UH, ALL THE CONCERNS RAISED BY MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, AS MR. D LEON INDICATED, UH, FOR A YEAR, THIS PROPERTY OWNER HAS WORKED ON IMPROVING THIS PROPERTY.
UH, THE EXISTING VEHICLE SALES C THREE USE IS PRESENT EXISTING ON THE GENERAL MCMULLEN SIDE.
UM, THIS USE THOUGH COMMERCIAL AND NAME AS COMMISSIONER SIPES AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE POINTED OUT IS REALLY JUST AN OFFICE TO DO PAPERWORK, UM, IN LIGHT OF, UH, THE SUPPORT FROM THE NEIGHBORS.
IMPORTANTLY, YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH WE TALK ABOUT, UH, THE NEAR PROXIMAL NEIGHBORS AND THEIR CONCERNS, UH, MR. DELEON DID THIS RIGHT, UH, MR. DELEON AND, UH, MR. SALINAS DID THIS, RIGHT? THEY WENT OUT, THEY SOUGHT, UH, THE INPUT FROM THEIR NEIGHBORS, THEY IMPROVED THE PROPERTY.
THEY GOT A TEMPLATE LETTER THAT THEY HAD PRODUCED, SIGNED BY 15 OF THEIR NEIGHBORS.
AND IF YOU HAVE GONE AROUND TRYING TO SEEK THESE CHANGES, UH, YOU PROBABLY HAVE GOTTEN THE SAME RESPONSE I'VE GOTTEN, WHICH IS, UH, SAYING NOTHING IS OKAY.
RIGHT? AND IN THIS CASE, THERE WERE NO, UH, THERE WAS NO OPPOSITION AMONGST THE PEOPLE WITHIN 200 FEET.
THERE WERE 15 PEOPLE WHO WERE AFFIRMATIVELY ABLE TO SAY YES.
AND IN LIGHT OF THE CONCESSIONS,
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I ASK MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO SUPPORT THIS.AND OF COURSE, BEING THE MOVEMENT, I'M SUPPORTING IT.
UH, UNLESS THERE IS ANY FINAL DISCUSSION, I'M GONNA ASK FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE.
MR. CHAIR, THAT IS THE REQUEST IS FOR AN AMENDMENT TO C ONE CD FOR MOTOR VEHICLE CELLS WITH CONDITIONS AS STATED COMM.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, PLEASE.
SO JUST ON THE NEXT ITEMS WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA CLEAR THIS VIA THIS FOR YOU.
WE'RE GONNA DO ITEM 7, 8, 9, AND 10 TOGETHER.
WE WILL READ EACH ITEM INDIVIDUALLY AND THEN WE WILL, UH, DO THE COMMENTS SEPARATELY.
BECAUSE THERE ARE VOICEMAILS AND PUBLIC SPEAKERS, UH, WE THINK THIS WILL BE MORE EXPEDITIOUS.
SO UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS, THAT'S HOW WE'D LIKE TO PROCEED.
STEPH, IF I CAN JUST ASK MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, UH, IN LIGHT OF THESE FOUR BEING GROUPED TOGETHER, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO TAKE A BREAK NOW? UH, I WAS HOPING TO GET THROUGH MAYBE ONE OR TWO MORE, BUT IF WE'RE DOING FOUR TOGETHER, IS NOW A BETTER TIME TO TAKE A QUICK FIVE MINUTE RECESS? YEP.
SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, STAND IN RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES.
WE WILL STAND IN RECESS TILL APPROXIMATELY 2 31.
BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE READY TO PROCEED.
UH, IT IS NOW 2 35 AND, UH, WE ARE BACK IN SESSION.
IF WE CAN PROCEED WITH THE NEXT, UH, FOUR ITEMS AS THE STAFF OUTLINED PRIOR TO THE RECESS.
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ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, WHICH IS ZONING CASE 2 95 A, THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM MF 33 TO MF 18.ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME LOCATED AT 3 24 WEST MAGNOLIA AVENUE.
20 NOTICES WERE MAILED, ZERO WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR.
ONE WAS RECEIVED AN OPPOSITION AND THE MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION AND THE ALTA VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ARE IN SUPPORT.
THE CURRENT ZONING RESULTED FROM A ZONING CONVERSION WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE 2001 UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE CURRENT MS 33 ZONING IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
IT EXISTS TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THE PROPOSED MS 18 IS ALSO APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA AND WILL ACCOMMODATE THE EXISTING FIVE DWELLING UNITS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH IS ZONING CASE 2 95 B IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM RMM FOUR S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A BED AND BREAKFAST TO R FOUR CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME LOCATED AT 1 28 WEST MISSILE TOE AVENUE.
ONE WAS RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE WAS RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION.
MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION AND ALTA VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ARE IN SUPPORT.
THE CURRENT ZONING RESULTED FROM A ZONING CONVERSION WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE 2001 UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
THE PROPOSED R FOUR CD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY IS A SUITABLE ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE PROPERTY AS IT MAINTAINS THE BASE ZONING AND ALLOWS ONE ADDITIONAL DWELLING UNIT, WHICH PRESENTLY EXISTS ON THE PROPERTY.
ITEM NUMBER NINE IS ZONING CASE 2 95 C AND IT'S A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM OH TWO TO RM SIX CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE WITH ALL OVERLAYS
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REMAINING THE SAME.AND R FOUR ARE LOCATED AT 5 0 9 WEST FRENCH PLACE.
32 NOTICES WERE MAILED, ONE WAS RECEIVED IN FAVOR, TWO WERE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION.
THE MONTE VISTA HISTORIC AND ALTA VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ARE IN SUPPORT.
THE CURRENT O TWO HIGH-RISE OFFICE DISTRICT IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ADJACENT SITE, THE REQUESTED RM SIX CD MIXED RESIDENTIAL IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE EXISTING STRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY.
THE PROPOSED CD ALLOWS CONSIDERATION OF A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE IN ADDITION TO THIS, IN ADDITION TO USE AS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, THE PROPOSED R FOUR IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED USES AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
AND LASTLY, ITEM 10, WHICH IS CASE 2 95 D IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM MF 33 TO R FOUR CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 2 35 EAST ATCH AVENUE.
24 NOTICES WERE MAILS, ZERO WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE WAS RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION.
THE MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION AND THE ALT VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ARE IN SUPPORT.
THE CURRENT ZONING RESULTED FROM A ZONING DISTRICT CONVERSION WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE 2001 UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
THE PROPOSED R FOUR CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING AND SURROUNDING ZONING AND USES AND LIMITS THE DENSITY TO ONLY FOUR UNITS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, MR. CHAIR.
UM, ALRIGHT, SO NOW I BELIEVE STAFF WE'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, MR. CHAIR.
WE ARE THE APPLICANT, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
AND SO AS SUCH WE JUST PRESENTED EACH CASE.
AND SO UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FOR US AT THIS TIME, WE WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH ALL OF THE VOICEMAILS AND ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.
AND ARE WE DOING THEM AND CORRECT? I'M SORRY, I, I MIGHT HAVE MISSED THIS, BUT WE'RE GONNA START WITH, UM, ARE WE DOING ALL OF THEM SEVEN THROUGH 10 OR ARE WE JUST DOING SEVEN RIGHT NOW? WE'RE GONNA START WITH THE GROUPING THAT HAD PHONE CALLS FOR ALL OF THE ITEMS AND THEN WE WILL BREAK IT DOWN BY EACH CASE NUMBER.
ALRIGHT, LET'S BEGIN WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT THEN.
THIS IS LAUREN C. POWELL AT 1 1 6 WEST MAGNOLIA, AND I WOULD LIKE TO THROW MY SUPPORT, UH, WITH THE, THE CITY, THE THE CITY, UH, AND AGAINST THE, UH, LITIGANTS FOR A REZONING CASE Z 20 19 1 0 7, 0 0 2 9 5 A, B, C AND D I AM, UM, UH, IN, IN, IN FAVOR OF THE ZONING CHANGE.
I'M, I'M, I'M WITH THE CITY AND MONTE VISTA.
I LIVE AT ONE 19 EAST ROSEWOOD AVENUE IN UH, MONTE VISTA.
UH, I'M CALLING IN SUPPORT OF, UH, REZONING CASE Z 20 19 1 0 7, 0 0 2 9 5 A B, C AND D.
UM, UH, I DO SUPPORT THE CITY'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THESE ZONING CHANGES, SO, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE REACH OUT.
MY TELEPHONE NUMBER IS (402) 321-8649.
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HI, MY NAME IS CLAY HAGEN.I LIVE AT 1 28 WEST FRENCH PLACE IN MONTE VISTA AND I'M CALLING IN SUPPORT OF ZONING CASE 2 9 5.
THE FOUR CASES ARE THAT ARE, UH, BEING PRESENTED IN MONTE VISTA AND I, I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE.
I LIVE AT TWO 18 WEST ELLWOOD AVENUE IN THE MONTE VISTA HISTORIC DISTRICT AND I'M CALLING ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEARING CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 1 9 A B C D.
THESE ARE CASES WHERE THE LAST, UM, THREE DIGITS ARE 2 9 5.
SO THIS IS THE 3 24 WEST MAGNOLIA, THE 1 28 WEST MISTLETOE AVENUE, THE 5 0 9 WEST FRENCH PLACE, AND THE 2 35 EAST ATCH.
UM, I SUPPORT, UH, THE CITY ZONING STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE TO CONSIDER HOW, UH, THE ZONING RECOMMENDATIONS COULD BE MORE IN COMPLIANCE WITH, UM, HISTORIC DISTRICT USES AND STILL ALLOW PRESENT USES TO CONTINUE UNDER SOME CIRCUMSTANCES.
AND THE CITY ZONING STAFF HAS DONE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND MONTE VISTA, UH, RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
I LIVE AT TWO FORTY THREE EAST WEST EDGE.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (312) 213-2842.
I AM IN FAVOR OF THE REZONING CASE 2 9 5 A, B, C, AND D FOR THE ADDRESS IS 3 24 WEST MAGNOLIA, 1 28 WEST MISSILE TO 5 0 9 WEST FRENCH PLACE AND 2 35 EAST SATCH.
THIS REZONING IS THE LAST PHASE OF THE LARGE AREA REZONING OF SOUTH MONTE VISTA THAT WAS HEARD AND PASSED BY THIS COMMISSION ON NOVEMBER 3RD, 2020.
THE REZONING OF THESE REMAINING PROPERTIES CONTINUES TO FOLLOW THE INTENT AND SPIRIT OF COUNCILMAN VINNO C C R PASSED BY CITY COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER OF 2017.
ADDRESSING INCONSISTENCIES REZONING DOES NOT MATCH THE CURRENT MAIN USE OF THE PROPERTY, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, ADDRESSING INCOMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS ACTION WILL FINALLY CORRECT THOSE LAST REMAINING OVER ZONE PROPERTIES IN SOUTH MONTE VISTA.
LASTLY, THIS REZONING WILL CONTINUE TO PROTECT THE LAND USE RIGHTS OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHILE PROTECTING THE RIGHTS OF THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
PROPERTY OWNERS WILL STILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHANGE THEIR ZONING IF IN THE FUTURE, THE USE OF THEIR PROPERTY CHANGES AS WELL.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THE COMMISSION APPROVE THE CITY'S ZONING REC RECOMMENDATION FOR THESE FOUR PROPERTIES.
UM, I LIVE IN MONTE VISTA AT 4 1 5 EAST ATCH.
I'M CALLING ABOUT ZONING K Z 2 0 1 9 A V C AND D.
I'M IN FAVOR OF THE, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND I'M VERY MUCH EXCITED FOR THE REZONING IN OUR AREA.
KATHY KENNEDY, 1 32 WEST MULBERRY SEVEN EIGHT TWO ONE TWO.
CALLING IN REFERENCE TO THE REZONING CASE Z AS IN ZEBRA, 2 0 1 9 DASH 1 0 7 0 2 9 5 A, B, C AND D I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE CITY ZONING DECISION.
HELLO, THIS IS MELODY HALL 3 24 WEST ROSEWOOD, UH, MONTE VISTA 7 8 2 1 2.
I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE, UM, CITY'S RECOMMENDATIONS FOR REASON FOR THE LARGE AREA REZONING CASE.
AND IT'S Z 2 0 1 9 0 7 2 9 5 AND THAT'S FOR A, B, C
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AND Z.I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION AND UH, I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO ZONING CASE NUMBER B 2019 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 2 9 5 A, B, C, AND D.
AND WE ARE IN, UH, SUPPORT OF THE CITY'S, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR, UH, THE REZONING OF THESE PROPERTIES.
SO I WANTED TO CALL CHRIS BERRY, PRESIDENT OF THE MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION TO SAY THAT I AM AND WE AS AN ORGANIZATION ARE, UM, IN SUPPORT OF THE CITY'S RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE REZONING OF THESE FOUR PROPERTIES.
I LIVE AT ONE 10 WEST ELSMERE PLACE IN SAN ANTONIO.
UH, MY PHONE NUMBER IS AREA CODE (210) 505-8001.
I'M CALLING ABOUT REZONING CASE Z TWO 19 2019 1 0 7 2 9 5 A B C.
AND I'M JUST CALLING TO CONFIRM THAT I DO SUPPORT THE CITY'S, UH, RECENT ART AREA REZONING.
UM, AND I DO NOT SUPPORT THE, UH, UH, EXCEPTIONS SINCE ZONINGS FOR THE FOUR PROPERTIES THAT ARE, UH, REPRESENTED IN THAT, UH, REZONING CASE.
ALRIGHT, AT THIS TIME WE'RE GONNA PLAY THE VOICEMAILS FOR GROUP A FOR 2 95 A.
HI, MY NAME IS KRISTEN KELLUM.
I LIVE AT ONE 16 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE AND UH, MY PHONE NUMBER IS TWO TEN SIX ZERO ONE SIX THREE SIX NINE.
I'M CALLING IN SUPPORT OF THE CITY'S RECOMMENDATION ON THE REZONING CASE.
Z TWO ONE, SORRY, Z 2 0 1 9 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 2 9 5 A, B, C, AND D.
YEAH, THIS IS CHRIS BERRY, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE MONTE VISTAS HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION AND UH, I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO ZONING CASE NUMBER Z 2019 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 2 9 5 A, B, C, AND D.
AND WE ARE IN, UH, SUPPORT OF THE CITY'S, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR, UH, THE REZONING OF THESE PROPERTIES.
SO I WANTED TO CALL CHRIS BERRY, PRESIDENT OF THE MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION, SAY THAT I AM AND WE AS AN ORGANIZATION ARE, UM, IN SUPPORT OF THE CITY'S RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE REZONING OF THESE FOUR PROPERTIES.
OOPS, SORRY ABOUT THOSE REPEATS.
THOSE WERE THE ONLY TWO WE HAD FOR THAT, BUT WE DO HAVE A MR. RONALD RIPS ON THE LINE, UM, FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
MR. RIPS, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY.
UH, BASICALLY I'M THE OWNER OF 3 24 WEST MAGNOLIA AND BASICALLY Y'ALL REZONING ME, IT'S GONNA RESTRICT ME FROM THAT EXTRA, UH, RENTAL UNITS ON THAT PROPERTY.
I GOT A VACANT LOT THERE AND IT AND EVERYTHING ELSE ON MY, UH, ON THAT STREET ACROSS THE STREET FROM, FROM ON THE BLOCK I'M ON IS, IT'S ON RIGHT NOW, FM 33.
UH, THE, IF YOU BACK UP AND GO OVER MY ALLEY TO TO TO THE MISSILE TOE BLOCK THAT THOSE PROPERTIES ARE ALL ON M M F 33.
AND LIKE I SAY, WE HAVE A PIECE OF, UH, VACANT LAND THERE THAT'S GONNA BE TOTALLY RENDERED USELESS AND NOT TO MENTION THE FINANCIAL LOSS THAT I'LL BE FACING BY REZONING ME.
AND SO, UH, THAT'S BASICALLY THE INTENT HERE IS THAT BASICALLY Y'ALL WOULD MAKE THAT PROPERTY TO WHERE IT WOULD NOT BE USABLE BECAUSE THERE'S NOWHERE, UH, AND YOU AND YOU DO HAVE A VACANT LOT THERE AND THAT, AND YOU ARE IN A BLOCK THAT IS NOTHING BUT APARTMENT BUILDINGS,
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THERE'S TWO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ON THE ENTIRE BLOCK AND UH, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.IT DOESN'T EVEN GO WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE REST OF THE BLOCK.
AND, ALRIGHT, GO AHEAD MR. RIPS IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE MORE TO SAY.
UM, NO, I BELIEVE MR. RIPS IF YOU WOULD STAY ON THE LINE, UM, STAFF, ARE THERE ANY MORE CALLERS? I THINK WE WANNA PROBABLY KEEP MR. RIPS, UH, FOR LATER IF THERE ARE, BUT IF THERE ARE NOT THEN I THINK WE CAN OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS UNLESS MR. RIPS HAS ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY WITH HIS FINAL 51 SECONDS.
NO, BASICALLY, I MEAN THAT'S IT, IT'S KIND OF, I MEAN ANYTHING I WOULD LIKE TO M MS 50 SO WE CAN PUT ON SOME, UH, MORE UNITS.
BUT I MEAN, LIKE I SAY, IF YOU'RE DRIVING THOSE INFAS TO THE CITY, TAKING A VACANT LOT
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. RIPS, UM, STAFF, IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE IS NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
UM, YOU ARE, UH, AND THE COMMISSION CAN DELIBERATE THIS ITEM 2 95 A.
UM, IN THAT CASE, UH, MR. RIPS, PLEASE STAY ON THE LINE 'CAUSE I DO IMAGINE THERE WILL BE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
AND I WILL, UH, HAND IT OFF TO COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, WHO HAS THE GREAT HONOR OF DEALING WITH THESE FOUR CASES.
UM, SO I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
UM, I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER.
I'LL START OFF WITH THOSE FIRST, UH, MR. RIPS, UM, HOW MANY UN UNITS ARE CURRENTLY ON THAT PROPERTY? THE WAY IT'S CONTINUED RIGHT NOW, WE GOT, UH, FIVE UNITS, UH, FIVE ELECTRICAL METERS.
ONE OF THE UNITS DOES HAVE IS USED OCCASIONALLY WE RENTED OUT TO MULTIPLE PEOPLE, COLLEGE KIDS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO YOU'RE CURRENTLY OPERATING WITH FIVE UNITS.
UM, AND, UM, HOW MANY, HOW MANY BEDROOMS, UM, ARE YOU, HOW MANY BEDROOMS DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE THROUGH THROUGHOUT ALL OF THOSE UNITS? UH, LEMME THINK, UH, LET'S SEE, 2, 4, 6, UH, NINE, I BELIEVE.
UM, AND THEN I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT, THAT YOU HAD SUBMITTED, UH, AN APPLICATION OF, OF SOME KIND.
I'VE GOT A, I'VE GOT A SITE PLAN HERE.
UM, IS THERE A, I GUESS STAFF, CAN YOU PROVIDE ME A STATUS UPDATE ON, ON THAT APPLICATION? COREY EDWARDS.
COREY, IF YOU'RE THERE, WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY FROM OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
HI, COREY EDWARDS, UM, DEPUTY HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER WITH O H P.
UM, SO I'M ONLY AWARE OF AN APPLICATION THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO OUR STAFF.
IT'S AN H C R C APPLICATION, UM, THAT WAS RECEIVED, UM, IN JANUARY.
UM, IT WAS DETERMINED, INCOMPLETE, UM, THERE WERE KIND OF TWO IMAGES ASSOCIATED.
THERE WAS A SITE PLAN, WHICH MIGHT BE THE SAME ONE THAT YOU'VE SEEN, UM, AS WELL AS A RENDERING, UM, THAT IS NOT SUFFICIENT FOR H C R C REVIEW.
SO IT IS, IT'S NOT A ACTIVE APPLICATION AT THIS TIME.
IT WAS DETERMINED AND COMPLETE.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE CALLED, WE HAVE CALLED DOWN THERE, SORRY, AND ASKED FOR SOMEBODY TO CALL US BACK SO THAT WE COULD MAYBE HAVE A MEETING TO WHERE WE COULD CLARIFY ANYTHING THAT Y'ALL WERE LOOKING FOR.
UM, IF YOU WOULD JUST WAIT, THIS IS A QUESTIONING SESSION, SO IF YOU WOULD WAIT UNTIL, UH, COMMISSIONER ADDRESSES YOU, I'D APPRECIATE IT.
OH, I, I I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO BREAK PROTOCOL.
AND STAFF COULD, COULD YOU TELL ME, UM, RIGHT NOW WITH THE CURRENT ZONING, WHAT, WHAT IS THE, THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED ON THIS PROPERTY WITH THE, WITH THE MF 33 VERSUS WITH THE PROPOSED MF 18? ALINA, IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE, GO AHEAD.
I THINK YOU'LL HAVE THAT CALCULATION READY.
SO, UH, WE WANT YOU TO KNOW WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM DENSITY FOR, UH, WHAT ITS CURRENT ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY AND WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM DENSITY FOR, UH, THIS PROPERTY AS M F A P.
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ALL RIGHT, STAFF, SOUNDS LIKE WE MIGHT BE HAVING SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES.UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, CHRISTY, THIS IS CHRISTY.
UM, THE, THE DENSITY UNDER MF 33 IS APPROXIMATELY 12 UNITS AND THEN UNDER, UNDER MF 15, IT'S SIX.
AND THEN, UM, COULD, COULD SOMEONE FROM STAFF JUST CONFIRM THE, UM, THE PROPERTIES THAT WOULD BE, UH, NEXT DOOR TO THIS? UM, WHAT, 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT WE WERE JUST RECENTLY REZONED, UM, UNDER THE LARGE AREA REZONING.
SO FOR THREE 18, UH, WEST SATCH AND 3 34, COULD YOU JUST CONFIRM WHAT THOSE, UH, NEW ZONING? 'CAUSE I KNOW THE G I S MAP IS NOT UPDATED YET.
SO 3 34 MAGNOLIA IS R FOUR AND THREE 18.
AND THEN THE PROPERTIES ON MISSILE TOW THAT, UM, WOULD BACK UP TO THIS TO THE ALLEY.
COULD YOU TELL ME 3 26 MISSILE TOW THREE 11 MISSILE TOW AND 3 31 MISSILE TOW.
3 25 IS R FOUR AND THREE 11 IS R FOUR.
I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES.
THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF AND UH, FOLLOWS ON COMMISSIONER GREAT HOUSE'S QUESTIONING.
UM, I, I, SO THE MAP THAT WE WERE PROVIDED, OR THAT'S BEING SHOWN ON SCREEN IS, ARE WE SAYING THAT THAT IS, HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED YET OR IS THAT THE CURRENT UPDATED? I'M I'M ASKING ABOUT LIKE ACROSS THE STREET, UH, 3 31, ET CETERA.
THOSE ARE, ARE THOSE CURRENTLY MF 33 OR ARE THOSE SOMETHING ELSE NOW? YES, SIR.
THE MAP THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT ON THE SCREEN IS THE, THE NEW ZONING.
UH, COMMISSIONER GR HOUSE, I'LL COME BACK TO YOU IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS.
SO BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER GRAU.
SO, SO THE MAP THAT'S UP RIGHT NOW, THEN THAT, THAT MEANS WHAT, WHAT WAS SAID IS, WAS NOT CORRECT.
SO THREE 18 WEST MAGNOLIA IS HERE.
IT'S SHOWING THAT IT'S MF 33 AND, AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU SAID IT WAS R FOUR AND WE HAVE AN O TWO ON 3 34.
I MEAN, I BELIEVE THAT THOSE, THOSE APPEAR TO BE THE OLD, THE OLD ZONINGS THAT, THAT WERE, UM, THAT WERE CORRECTED IN THE LARGE, LARGE AREA REZONING PROCESS.
YES, WE, UM, UPDATED THE MAPS.
IT SHOULD BE, UM, IN THE AGENDA PRO IN THE AGENDA LINK.
I THINK OUR POWERPOINT JUST HAS THE REFERENCE WRONG MAP.
UM, SO WHAT I STATED EARLIER WAS ACCURATE.
JUST WANTED THAT CLARIFICATION FOR COMMISSIONER SIPES.
ANY FURTHER, UH, QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, THEN IT'S, UH, THREE COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, OR I GUESS TWO COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IN A ROW.
UM, I'LL BE MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS REZONING.
UM, SO THE, A LITTLE BIT OF THE BACKGROUND ON THIS, PROBABLY MORE THAN ANYBODY WANTS TO HEAR.
UM, BUT WHAT, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT, THAT THIS, UM, WHOLE LARGE AREA REZONING PROCESS STARTED WAS TO NOT ONLY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE DENSITY ISSUES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE WE HAD, UM, PROPERTIES THAT WERE KIND OF OVER ZONED FROM A DENSITY STANDPOINT, BUT IT WAS ALSO BECAUSE OF THE USES THAT ARE POTENTIALLY ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE DENSITIES.
SO IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE NUMBER OF UNITS, IT'S ABOUT THE USES THAT COULD
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ALSO ACCOMPANY THOSE.BECAUSE AN MF 33 PROPERTY DOESN'T NECESSARILY, IT'S NOT JUST LIMITED TO BEING AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AS, AS YOU ALL KNOW, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CASES THAT WENT UP TO H D R C ON SATCH BACK, UH, PROBABLY TWO YEARS AGO, MAYBE LONGER AGO THAN THAT, UM, WHERE SMALL BUNGALOWS WERE ATTEMPTING TO BE TURNED INTO, UM, RESIDENTIAL CARE FACILITIES WITH LIKE UP TO 18 BEDS.
SO THAT TYPE OF A USE IN THE MIDDLE OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WITH SMALL NARROW STREETS IS INCOMPATIBLE BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT ONLY, UM, FOLKS WHO ARE VISITING THE RESIDENTS, YOU ALSO HAVE THE EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS THE SUPPLY TRUCKS AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS CASE WAS KIND OF THE IMPETUS FOR ALL OF THIS.
AND UM, SIMILARLY ON THIS PROPERTY, GOING FROM AN MF 33 DOWN TO AN MF 18 WILL REMOVE SOME USES THAT ARE POTENTIALLY INCOMPATIBLE.
FOR EXAMPLE, UM, BED AND BREAKFAST, UH, FRAT HOUSE OR SORORITY HOUSE AND SCHOOL DORMITORY.
SO THOSE TYPES OF USES THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE MORE OF A COMMERCIAL TYPE USE OR CONSIDERED TO BE MORE OF A COMMERCIAL TYPE USE WHERE YOU DO HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE SCHOOL DORMITORY, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE FOLKS COMING IN TO CLEAN AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, IT'S MORE OF A COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, INSTITUTIONAL OWNERSHIP STRUCTURE.
UM, THAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY DETRIMENTAL MID-BLOCK ON A, ON A NARROW HISTORIC STREET LIKE THIS AND WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD MF 18 BY BRINGING THAT DOWN ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
WE ARE ELIMINATING SOME OF THOSE USES AND ALSO ALLOWING FOR WHAT THE CURRENT USE OF THE PROPERTY IS, WHICH IS FIVE UNITS.
AND IN FACT, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER COULD EVEN INCREASE THAT TO SIX UNITS HERE.
UM, SO, UM, AND KIND OF LOOKING THROUGH SOME OF THE, THE STANDARDS THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE CONSIDERING, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE ADVERSE IMPACTS ON SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, UM, AND SUITABILITY AS PRESENTLY ZONED.
UM, I THINK THAT THOSE SUPPORT THE REZONING FROM MF 33 DOWN TO MF 18.
UM, AND ALSO THE SPIRIT OF THE C C R, UM, TO CORRECT THE ZONING TO REFLECT WHAT IS ACTUALLY ON THE GROUND AND TO HELP REMOVE THESE INCOMPATIBLE USES.
SO FOR THAT REASON, I'LL BE MAKING A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL, UH, BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER KAMATH.
WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM 2 95 B AND WE HAVE ONE VOICEMAIL TO PLAY FOR YOU.
ARE Y'ALL NOT COMING BACK TO? THIS IS PAUL KENON.
I LIVE AT FOUR 18 WEST FRENCH PLACE IN THE MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL DISTRICT.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 852-9831.
I'M CALLING TO INDICATE THE POSITION OF THE LAUREL HEIGHTS UNITED METHODIST CHURCH.
WE ARE IN FAVOR OF REZONING 1 28 WEST MISSILE TOW CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 1 9 DASH 107 0 0 2 9 5 B TO TWO R DASH FOUR CD.
IF I MAY, I THINK MR. RIPS IS STILL ON THE LINE.
MR. RIPS, UM, THE CASE MANAGER WILL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU AFTER THE CONCLUSION OF THIS MEETING TO LET YOU KNOW NEXT STEPS, UM, AND, UH, NOTING YOUR OPPOSITION AS THIS MOVES FORWARD.
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ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UM, PROCEED WITH THIS ONE.THERE IS NO, UM, OWNER TO BE CALLED IN FOR THIS ONE, SO WE, IF WE CAN JUST HAVE THE CHAIR GO AHEAD AND, AND TAKE OVER.
UM, I'M GOING TO IN TURN, TURN IT OVER TO COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE FOR ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS ITEM.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS ITEM.
DOES ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS ITEM? I SEE NONE.
UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE T OH SORRY, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
UH, I'M SORRY, I JUST NEEDED A CLARIFICATION.
I, I UNDERSTOOD STAFF TO SAY THERE'S NO PROPERTY OWNER ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
THERE'S NO PROPERTY OWNER ON THE LINE.
OH, SO THE PROPERTY OWNER'S IN AGREEMENT.
UM, I'LL LEAVE THAT WITH THE COMMISSIONER BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THEY WERE DISCUSSING THAT WITH THE OWNER.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? ALRIGHT, I SEE NONE.
COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, BACK TO YOU.
UM, YES, SO, UM, ON THIS CASE I WILL BE MAKING A MOTION, UM, AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION FOR, UM, THIS PROPERTY TO RETAIN ITS RMM FOUR ZONING, BUT REMOVING THE SS FOR BED AND BREAKFAST USE.
UM, SO AGAIN, GOING BACK TO MY PREVIOUS DISCUSSION ON THE PREVIOUS CASE, UM, I'VE HAD EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE OWNER AND ALSO WITH FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
AND, UM, BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING AT AN RMM VERSUS AN MF ON THIS PROPERTY, WE'RE NOT BRINGING IN THE USES THE INCOMPATIBLE USES THAT WERE THE MAIN CONCERN FOR THE LARGE AREA REZONING.
UM, AND, UH, SO WE, AND WE'RE ALSO TAKING AWAY A POTENTIAL INCOMPATIBLE USE BY REMOVING THE BED AND BREAKFAST USE.
SO FOR THAT REASON I'M MAKING THE ALTERNATIVE MOTION FOR RMM FOUR.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR RETAINING THE RMM FOUR BASE ZONING, BUT REMOVING THE S IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.
UH, I'VE GOT THREE AND I THINK I HEARD COMMISSIONER MCGEE FIRST.
SO, UH, WE WILL GO WITH COMMISSIONER MCGEE AS SECOND DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, I THINK YOU'VE ADDRESSED THE ISSUES THAT YOU HAD FRONT OF MIND.
ANY FURTHER COMMENT? ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER'S DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, THERE IS A MOTION, UH, FOR RETAINING THE R FOUR BASE ZONING AND REMOVING THE SS BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO ITEM EIGHT, UH, 2 95 B UH, THAT WAS LETTER B SIR, WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM 9 2 95 C.
THANK YOU FOR THE CORRECTION, I APOLOGIZE.
UH, THERE ARE SIX VOICEMAILS ON THIS ONE AND WE'LL BEGIN PLAYING THOSE NOW.
HELLO, MY NAME IS ANN VAN PELT.
I'M CALLING IN FAVOR OF REZONING 5 0 9 WEST FRENCH PLACE, CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 1 9 1 0 7 0 0 2 9 5 C.
I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS AND WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT REGISTERED WITH A ZONING COMMISSION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK.
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NAME IS JOHN MCCUSKER.I LIVE AT 1 1 9 WEST ATCH AVENUE HERE IN MONTE VISTA.
I AM IN FAVOR OF REZONING 5 0 9 WEST FRENCH PLACE, CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 1 9 1 0 7 2 9 5 C TWO R M DASH SIX CD AND R FOUR CD.
THIS WILL CORRECT ZONING TO REFLECT THE CURRENT PROPERTY USE AND MINIMIZE INCREASED DENSITY ISSUES AND PERMITTED USES IN OUR PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
HI, MY NAME IS JOHN TANNER, I LIVE AT TWO 10 WEST HOLLYWOOD.
UH, I'M IN FAVOR OF REZONING 5 0 9 WEST FRENCH PLACE, UH, CASE NUMBER Z UH, 20 19 1 0 7 0 0 2 9 5 C TWO RM, SIX CD AND R FOUR CD.
THIS WILL CORRECT ZONING TO REFLECT CURRENT PROPERTY USE AND MINIMIZE INCREASED DENSITY ISSUES, UH, AND PERMITTED USES IN OUR PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
I LIVE AT 300 WEST FRENCH PLACE.
I AM IN FAVOR OF REZONING 5 0 9 WEST FRENCH PLACE CASE NUMBER Z HYPHEN TWO 19, UH, 20 19 1 0 7 0 0 2 9 5 C TO RM, SIX CD AND R FOUR CD.
THIS WILL CORRECT ZONING TO REFLECT THE CURRENT PROPERTY USE AND MINIMIZE INCREASED DENSITY ISSUES AND PERMITTED USES IN OUR PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'LL BE JUST ONE MOMENT PLEASE.
I AM IN FAVOR OF REZONING 5 0 9 WEST FRENCH PLACE, CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 1 9 1 0 7 0 0 2 9 5 C TWO R M SIX CD AND R M C D.
THIS WILL CORRECT THE ZONING TO REFLECT THE CURRENT PROPERTY USE AND MINIMIZE THE INCREASED DENSITY ISSUES AND PERMITTED USES IN OUR PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
I LIVE AT 5 0 5 BENA PLACE IN MONTE VISTA.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 646-1845.
I'M IN FAVOR OF REZONING 5 0 9 WEST FRENCH PLACE CASE NUMBER Z 2 1 9 1 0 7 2 9 5 C TWO RM, SIX CD AND R FOUR CD.
THIS WILL CORRECT ZONING TO REFLECT THE CURRENT PROPERTY USE AND MINIMIZE INCREASED DENSITY ISSUES AND PERMITTED USES IN OUR PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
IS THE PROPERTY OWNER PRESENT? UH, THE OWNER'S IN SUPPORT? SO, UH, THERE'S NO UH, LIVE CALL FOR FOR TODAY FOR THAT ONE.
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GOOD, THANK YOU SO MUCH.IN WHICH CASE I WILL HAND IT BACK OVER TO COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION BUT IF ANYONE ELSE HAS QUESTIONS I'M FINE WITH HEARING THEM.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
OKAY, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER.
ARE WE ON NINE? ITEM NUMBER NINE.
UM, I'LL JUST QUICKLY TALK ABOUT THIS ONE.
SO THE, THE OWNER AND UM, STAFF AS WELL AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, I KNOW THEY WORKED REALLY LONG AND HARD ON UM, COMING UP WITH A, A USE THAT REALLY FIT THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER'S USE AS WELL AS, UM, RESPECTED THE UH, THE SURROUNDING USES AND THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS AND UH, AND, AND CONFORMING WITH THOSE.
SO, UM, I THINK IT'S A REALLY GREAT OUTCOME AND A LOT OF HARD WORK WAS DONE ON THIS CASE.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? UH, THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND MCDANIEL.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? I SEEING NONE.
ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO ITEM 10 AND ENDING IN 2 95 D PLEASE.
THERE ARE 17 VOICEMAILS ON THIS ONE.
WE ARE GONNA START PLAYING THOSE NOW.
HELLO, MY NAME IS ANNE VAN PEL.
I AM IN FAVOR OF REZONING 2 3 5 EAST ATCH.
CASE NUMBER V 2 1 9 1 7 2 9 5 D I AM IN FAVOR OF REZONING 2 3 5 EAST ATCH MULTIFAMILY.
UH, 3 3 2 R RESIDENTIAL FOUR CD.
HELLO, MY NAME IS JOHN MCCUSKER.
I LIVE AT 1 1 9 WEST ATCH AVENUE HERE IN MONTE VISTA.
I AM IN FAVOR OF REZONING 2 3 5 EAST ATCH CASE NUMBER Z 2 1 9 7 2 9 5 D TWO R DASH FOUR CD.
THIS WILL CORRECT ZONING TO REFLECT THE CURRENT PROPERTY USE AND MINIMIZE INCREASED DENSITY ISSUES IN OUR PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR HELP.
GOOD AFTERNOON OR GOOD MORNING.
I'M THE OWNER OF 2 0 5 THROUGH 2 0 9 EAST CORTLAND.
BEEN THE OWNER FOR 32 YEARS AND THIS IS REGARDING ZONING CASE.
THE LAST DIGITS ARE 1 0 7 0 0 2 9 5 1 0 7 0 0 2 9 5.
BASICALLY THE ISSUE IN REGARDS IS IN GENERAL I REJECT THE PROPOSAL FOR THE UH, REZONING OF TWO 20 AND
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2 24 EAST COURTLAND TO BASICALLY FROM ONE UNIT PER QUARTER ACRE TO 4.5 UNITS PER QUARTER ACRE.AND THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY, I OWN THE PROPERTY AS I SAID FOR 32 YEARS.
THEY DEVELOPED ONE ACRE OF PROPERTY, THEY PUT 15 UNITS ON IT.
ESSENTIALLY THEY'RE AVERAGING THREE POINT, I'M SORRY, UNITS STAFF, I BELIEVE THIS IS QUARTER ACRE.
UH, THEY'VE DONE THE SAME OR A DIFFERENT ITEM.
SO THIS PROPERTY IS PROPOSING UP TO 4.5 UNITS PER QUARTER ACRE.
OF COURSE THE VALUES IN THE AREA HAVE INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY.
UH, THE VALUES HAVE WENT FROM ROUGHLY 25 TO $50,000 PER QUARTER ACRE TO NOW WE BORDERING ON 150,000.
SO IT'S PUTTING STRAIN ON THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE AREA.
IT'S OBVIOUSLY HIGHER TAXES THERE.
THIS, THIS IS FOR A DIFFERENT CASE CONGESTION IN THE AREA.
SO AGAIN I REJECT THE UH, NOTION OF NINE UNITS AT THE PROPERTY KNOWN AS TWO 20 THROUGH 2 24 EAST.
COURTLAND HER AGAIN IS THE ZONING NUMBER IS 1 0 7 0 0 2 9 5 BASED UPON IT'S CAUSING TOO MUCH DENSITY.
SORRY GUYS, WE, WE REALIZE THAT THE, IT'S CONFUSING 'CAUSE THE NUMBER'S 2 9 5 SO IT'S FOR ANOTHER CASE ON THE AGENDA.
WE'LL WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE.
UH, HI, MY NAME IS JOHN TANNER, I LIVE AT TWO 10 WEST HOLLYWOOD.
I'M IN FAVOR OF REZONING 2 3 5 EAST ATCH, UH, CASE NUMBER Z 20 19 1 0 7 2 9 5 D TO R FOUR CD.
THIS WILL CORRECT ZONING TO REFLECT THE CURRENT PROPERTY USE AND MINIMIZING INCREASED DENSITY ISSUES IN OUR PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
HELLO, THIS IS ROSE MARIE KORSHAN.
I LIVE AT FIVE 10 EAST ATCH AVENUE.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (405) 664-2205 AND I'M CALLING IN SUPPORT OF THE REZONING OF 2 3 5 EAST ATCH.
CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 1 9 1 0 7 2 9 5 DELTA.
UM, I BELIEVE CORRECTING THE ZONING IN OUR AREA WILL HELP WITH UH, PROMOTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
MY NAME IS MARILYN JOHNSON, I LIVE AT THREE 15 EAST ATCH AVENUE, UH, 78 2 12.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT I'M IN FAVOR OF THE REZONING OF 2 35 EAST ATCH, CASE NUMBER Z 2 19 1 0 7 0 0 2 9 5 D TO AN R FOUR C D.
THIS WILL CORRECT THE ZONING TO REFLECT THE CURRENT PROPERTY USE AND MINIMIZE THE DENSITY, UH, ISSUES IN OUR PREDOMINANTLY UM, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
I JUST WANTED TO STATE MY SUPPORT OF THIS MESSAGE AND AND LEAVE THE AS.
HELLO, MY NAME IS JOHN BELLETTE, B E L L E T T.
I LIVE AT 3 1 9 EAST ASH 7 8 2 1 2.
I AM IN FAVOR OF REZONING 2 3 5 EAST ASH CASE Z 2 0 1 9 1 0 702 9 5 D TWO R DASH FOUR CD.
THIS WILL CORRECT THE ZONING TO REFLECT THE CURRENT PROPERTY USE AND MINIMIZE INCREASED DENSITY ISSUES IN OUR PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH IS MONTE VISTA.
MY NUMBER IS TWO TEN SIX THREE NINE EIGHT THREE ZERO NINE.
I LIVE AT 3 2 4 EAST ATCH SAN ANTONIO 7 8 2 1 2.
I WANTED TO INDICATE THAT I'M IN FAVOR OF THE REZONING OF 2 35 EAST ATCH.
THAT'S CASE NUMBER Z 2019 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 2 9 5 D.
I'M IN FAVOR OF A REZONING TO R FOUR C D.
THAT ZONING WILL PROPERLY REFLECT THE CURRENT PROPERTY USE AS RESIDENTIAL AND WILL LIMIT INCREASED DENSITY IN WHAT IS A PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
MF ZONING WOULD INCREASE THE DENSITY ENTIRELY TOO MUCH AND
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RAISE ADDITIONAL PROBLEMS. I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR UNDERSTANDING AND CONSIDERATION.MY NAME IS DAVID AL, I LIVE AT 3 3 0 EAST ATCH AVENUE 7 82 12.
UH, I'M IN FAVOR OF REZONING 2 35 EAST RESEARCH CASE NUMBER Z DASH 2 1 9 DASH 1 0 7 29 5 D TO R FOUR CD.
THIS WILL CORRECT ZONING TO REFLECT THE CURRENT PROPERTY USE AND MINIMIZE INCREASED DENSITY ISSUES IN A PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
I LIVE AT 4 1 4 KINGS COURT 7 8 2 1 2.
I AM IN FAVOR OF REZONING 2 35 EAST ATCH.
CASE ENDING END 2 9 5 D TO R FOUR C D.
MY ADDRESS IS 4 51 EAST MAGNOLIA AVENUE.
I AM IN FAVOR OF REZONING 2 35 EAST RESEARCH CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 1 9 1 0 7 0 0 2 9 5 D TO R FOUR D C D.
THIS WILL CORRECT SOMEONE TO REFLECT THE CURRENT PROPERTY USE AND UH, THE DESTINEE ISSUES IN OUR UH, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDE UH, RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'D LIKE FOR YOU TO REMAIN THAT WAY.
THIS IS JAMES THUR WALKER, T H U R W A L K E R.
I LIVE AT 5 0 7 EAST ATCH AVENUE.
IT'S IN THE 2 1 2 DISTRICT ONE IN 7 8 2 1 2 AND I I'M IN FAVOR OF REZONING 2 35 EAST ASH, WHICH IS CASE NUMBER V 2 0 1 9 1 0 7 2 9 5 D TO THE R FOUR CATEGORY.
THIS WILL CORRECT ZONING TO REFLECT THE CURRENT PROPERTY USE AND MINIMIZE THE INCREASED DENSITY ISSUES IN OUR PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
I MAY BE REACHED AT 2 1 0 7 3 5 9,000.
I LIVE AT FIVE 10 EAST MULBERRY SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 1 2.
I'M IN FAVOR OF REZONING 2 35 EACH RESEARCH CASE NUMBER Z DASH 2 0 9 DASH 1 0 7 2 9 5 B TO R FOUR CD.
THIS WILL CORRECT ZONING TO REFLECT THE CURRENT PROPERTY USE AND MINIMIZE INCREASED DENSITY ISSUES IN OUR PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
MY NAME IS JOSEPHINE DEION AND I LIVE AT FIVE 19 EAST LOUIS SAG.
CASE NUMBER IS Z 2 0 1 9 1 0 7 0 0 2 9 5 D TO R FOUR C D.
I LIVE AT FIVE THREE FIVE EAST ATCH.
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UM, MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 884-1014.I AM IN FAVOR OF REZONING 2 35 EAST ATCH.
CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 1 9 1 0 7 0 0 2 9 5 D TWO R FOUR CD.
THIS WILL CORRECT ZONING TO REFLECT THE CURRENT PROPERTY USE AND MINIMIZE INCREASED DENSITY ISSUES IN OUR PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR US.
I LIVE AT 5 5 1 EAST ATCH AVENUE HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS.
I'M CALLING TO SAY THAT I AM IN FAVOR OF THE REZONING AT 2 35 EAST ATCH AVENUE AND THE CASE NUMBER IS Z AS IN ZEBRA, 2 0 1 9 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 2.
AGAIN THAT CASE NUMBER IS Z OR TWO, I'M NOT REALLY SURE.
DASH 2 0 1 9 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 2 9 5 D AS IN DAVID AND THAT'S A 2 35 EAST ATCH AVENUE.
I UNDERSTAND THE ZONING COMMISSION IS HERE IN THIS CASE TODAY, TUESDAY, FEBRUARY THE SECOND.
SO PLEASE NOTE THAT I AM IN FAVOR OF THE REZONING AT 2 35 EAST ATCH AVENUE.
HELLO, UH, MY NAME IS LYDIA EGIA WHITE.
I OWN THE PROPERTY AT 2 3 6 EAST ATCH IN MONTE VISTA AND I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO THE REZONING CASE AT 2 3 5 EAST ATCH NUMBER Z TWENTY NINETEEN TEN SEVEN HUNDRED TWO NINE FIVE D.
I AM CALLING TO SAY THAT I AM IN FAVOR OF THE R FOUR CD REZONING AND I'M HOPING THAT THIS WILL HELP TO MINIMIZE THE DENSITY ISSUES, UM, IN OUR UH, NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUR PARTICULAR PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO I HOPE THAT Y'ALL WILL VOTE FOR THAT AND UM, HELP OUR COMMUNITY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
QUESTION IS, AM I
SHE'S TAKING, I'M SORRY, THE PROPERTY OWNER CAN'T BE WITH US TODAY.
SHE IS TAKING CARE OF HER NEWBORN SIX WEEK OLD BABY, BUT SHE DID PREPARE A STATE A STATEMENT FOR US TO READ AND I'LL DO SO RIGHT NOW.
IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING, ZONING MEETING TAKING PLACE TOMORROW ON FEBRUARY 2ND, 2 35.
ATCH L L C TAKES THE POSITION THAT IT DISAGREES WITH THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE FROM MF 33 33 TO A CONDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL USE.
THE M MS 33 DESIGNATION WAS ONE OF THE FUNDAMENTAL REASONS FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY.
THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE LIMITS THE FUTURE FLEXIBILITY AND UTILITY OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.
FOR INSTANCE, THE CURRENT FIRST FLOOR TWO BEDROOM, ONE BATHROOM UNIT IS 2200 SQUARE FEET WITH FOUR SEPARATE ENTRANCES.
THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE WOULD LIMIT THE ABILITY OF SUBDIVIDING THIS UNIT WHERE NO EXTERIOR MODIFICATION WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE MORE APPROPRIATELY, APPROPRIATELY SIZED WITH MODERN UNIT SQUARE FOOTAGE STANDARDS.
ALTHOUGH WE ARE AWARE THAT THE CURRENT USE AND CONFIGURATION OF 2 35 E ATCH IS FOUR UNITS, WE DO NOT AGREE WITH THE LIMITS PLACED ON THE FUTURE USE OF THE PROPERTY BY REMOVAL OF THE MS DESIGNATION.
AND THAT IS FROM MS. VICTORIA HUM, MR. CHAIR.
UM, IN THAT CASE, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE ONCE AGAIN.
OKAY, UM, I WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE ASKED SOME QUESTIONS OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, BUT UM, SINCE I CANNOT, UM,
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UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? UH, FOR STAFF? I PRESUME I SEE NONE.
YEAH, JUST A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UM, THE, UH, I SEE A LOT OF R FOUR CD NEXT TO AND AROUND THIS, THIS PROPERTY.
UM, ARE THOSE CD FOR FOUR UNITS AS WELL OR ARE THEY A DIFFERENT NUMBER OR? THEY ARE ACTUALLY FROM WHAT I, UH, REMEMBER, THEY ARE R FOUR CD EACH FOR TWO UNITS.
ALRIGHT, LAST CALL FOR QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER GIBBONS.
UM, ON THE R FOUR CDS, ANY OF THE R FOURS, WERE ANY OF THESE EVER CHANGED AS WELL FROM AN MF THESE WERE ALWAYS R FOURS.
SO 2 29? UH, WELL, YES, ALL OF THEM WERE CHANGED, UH, FROM TWO 15 AND 2 29 FROM MF 33 TO R FOUR, CD 2 29 HAD GONE TO ZONING COMMISSION AS, UM, A PROPOSED, UH, R UH, IT WAS, IT WAS ULTIMATELY APPROVED BY COUNSEL FOR R FOUR CD FOR TWO UNITS.
AND THE ORIGINAL, UH, WAS WAS MF 15 OR 1825, WHICHEVER ONE IT IS.
SO THIS HAS HAD SOME FOUR 15 OR 2 29.
NO, WE DIDN'T RECOMMEND MF FOR EITHER OF THOSE TWO PROPERTIES, BUT THEY WERE 2 35 REMAINED MF 33.
IT DIDN'T GET REZONED DURING THE LARGE AREA REZONING.
AND, UM, HOW DEEP ARE THE LOTS, DO YOU KNOW? UM, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE.
I DO KNOW IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN 150 FEET AT LEAST.
SO THE LOT SIZE IS, SIZE IS ADEQUATE FOR THE DESIGNATION OF OF THE M F 33? UM, YES.
IT, IT, THERE THERE'S CURRENTLY A LARGE HOUSE ON IT THAT EACH FLOOR HAS ABOUT 2000 SQUARE FEET.
THE FIRST, THE FIRST FLOOR, THE SECOND FLOOR, IT'S, IT'S A PRETTY LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
AND THEY STILL HAVE TO MEET, UH, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS SUCH AS PARKING, UM, AND ALL THE OTHER STANDARDS.
IF THEY WERE TO ADD ANY MORE UNITS THAN WHAT CURRENTLY EXISTS.
WHAT CURRENTLY EXISTS WOULD BE DESIGNATED MF 33 OR WHAT WOULD YOU DESIGNATE IT AS? OUR FOUR CD FOR THE FOUR UNITS RIGHT NOW THERE'S FOUR UNITS ON IT, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING OUR FOUR CD FOR FOUR UNITS.
AND THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, DISCUSSION WAS THAT, DID YOU HAVE THAT WITH THE OWNERS THEN IN ORDER TO DEVELOP IT INTO THE MF 33? IT WOULD PROBABLY, PROBABLY RESTRICT EVEN THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
WAS THAT DISCUSSION WITH THE OWNER? YES, WE DID.
WE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT, UM, FUTURE POSSIBILITY OF DEVELOPMENT.
SO THEY TALKED TO US ABOUT SPLITTING UP, UH, THE UNIT, UH, ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND THE SECOND FLOOR.
UM, AND THEN THEY DID TALK ABOUT THAT THEY DID HAVE SPACE TO ADD FOR, UH, MORE PARKING SPACES IF THEY WERE TO ADD TWO MORE UNITS.
BUT, BUT THEY'RE FIRM, THEY'D LIKE, THEY DID NOT AGREE WITH THE REZONING.
THEY WANTED MF 33, IS THAT WHAT SHE WAS SAYING? I I THINK WHAT SHE WAS SAYING WAS THAT SHE DOESN'T AGREE WITH THE DOWN ZONING, BUT SHE WANTED TO KEEP AN MF DESIGNATION.
DID YOU DISCUSS ANOTHER MF DESIGNATION WITH HER OTHER THAN THE 33? YES.
WE TALKED ABOUT MF 18 AND WE TALKED ABOUT MF 25.
HOWEVER, NO PERMITS HAVE BEEN PULLED FOR THAT, UH, YET.
AND SO, UH, RIGHT NOW WHAT'S, WHAT'S ON THE TABLE AND WHAT'S CURRENTLY EXISTING IS R FOUR CD OR IS FOUR UNITS, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE PROPOSING THE CONDITIONAL USE.
RIGHT ON THE, UM, SO IN THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S AN, YOU KNOW, OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS IS NOT UNUSUAL FOR THESE MF EIGHTEENS WITH THESE LONG R FOUR LOTS.
WHAT WAS THE THINKING BACK THEN, DO YOU THINK? I, IT LOOKED LIKE THEY REPEAT THAT QUESTION.
I GUESS BACK, I'M JUST THINKING BACK AS TO WHY YOU'VE GOT THE R MF 25 18, 18 33 IN THIS PARTICULAR OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD.
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I MEAN, THERE WAS A THINKING IN THE READING BEHIND IT BACK THEN.WHAT HAS CHANGED FOR YOU TODAY? OH, SO REMEMBER THIS WAS PART OF A LARGE AREA REZONING THAT WE JUST RECENTLY WENT THROUGH.
UM, IT WENT TO ZONING COMMISSION BACK IN NOVEMBER AND WAS ULTIMATELY APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN DECEMBER.
A LOT OF THIS, UM, AREA IN THE MONTE VISTA WAS THE RESULT OF THE OLD D APARTMENT DISTRICT.
AND SO D WHEN THE 2001 CODE WAS ADOPTED, UM, CONVERTED TO MF 33.
SO DURING THE LARGE AREA REZONING, THE MF 25 THAT YOU SEE, AND THE MF 18 THAT YOU SEE WAS PART OF THAT LARGE AREA REZONING IN ORDER TO, UH, WE DOWN ZONE THEM TO BE MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT NUMBER OF UNITS ON THEIR PROPERTY.
SO THEN YOU FEEL THAT THE R FOUR CD IS FITTING THAT DESCRIPTION? YES, WE DO EXISTING.
I'M, I'M STILL, AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT I'M TRYING, I'M, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY THE OWNER IS, IS NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT, SO IT GIVES ME PAUSE SINCE WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T KNOW THAT.
BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE GONE THROUGH SOME DEVELOPMENT CONCERNS WITH THEM.
I THINK YOU, I THINK THE STATEMENT HAD ALSO HAD SAID THAT THEY HAD BOUGHT IT WHEN IT, UH, A ZONED MF AND THAT, AND THAT WAS WHAT, UH, ENTICED US INTO BUYING A PIECE OF PROPERTY.
SO IT COULD JUST BE THE IDEA THAT THERE'S AN MF 33 WITH THE IDEA OF A POTENTIAL OF SOMETHING THERE, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE GONE THROUGH SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT CONCERNS THAT THAT POSSIBILITY REALLY WOULD NOT EXIST.
IS THAT CORRECT? I MEAN, THERE, THEY COULD SUBMIT FOR PERMITS, UM, IN ORDER TO ADD MORE UNITS, SO LONG AS THEY MEET DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, BUT RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOTHING IN THE QUEUE.
AND HOW MANY STANDARDS ARE OUT THERE TODAY AS COMPARED TO BACK AT IN THE DAY? I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S A LOT OF HURDLES.
I THANK, THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT WITH THE CLIENT.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GIBBONS.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, BACK TO YOU.
YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO ASK A QUICK FOLLOW UP QUESTION IN LIGHT OF COMMISSIONER GIBBONS.
UM, QUESTIONS, JUST TO BE CLEAR, STAFF, UM, ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES WERE IN FACT MF 33, SO ALL ALONG SATCH, UM, FROM MCCULLOUGH TO, UM, THE, BASICALLY THE END OF MONTE VISTA RIGHT? ALL THE WAY TO, UH, 2 81, THOSE PROPERTIES WERE ALL MF 33 AND THEY WERE ALL PART OF THE REZONING.
AND SO ALL OF THE R FOUR CDS AND THE MF EIGHTEENS AND THE R FOURS, THOSE WERE ALL RECENTLY REZONED.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS LAST CALL.
UH, BACK TO COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
UM, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 10.
UM, AND, AND AS I PREVIOUSLY STATED EARLIER, I DON'T WANT TO DRAW THIS OUT ANY LONGER BECAUSE THE, THE COMMISSION OBVIOUSLY HAS HEARD, UM, A A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT AND, AND WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON, UH, THE LARGE AREA REZONING AS A WHOLE.
UM, BUT AGAIN, WITH THIS CASE, THE PARTICULAR ISSUES MIRROR THOSE ON THE MAGNOLIA CASE.
UM, BEING THAT THE C C R INTENT WAS TO REZONE FOR THE CURRENT USE OF THE PROPERTY, AS WELL AS TO REMOVE WHERE POSSIBLE THE MF DESIGNATION TO PREVENT POTENTIAL, UH, DEVELOPMENT THAT'S INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AS I STATED EARLIER, WE HAVE THE, THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES AND THE DORMITORIES AND BED AND BREAKFAST USES THAT BECOME AN ISSUE, UH, FOR ESPECIALLY THIS STREET, WHICH IS AN EXTREMELY NARROW STREET.
UM, AND SO FOR THAT REASON, THAT'S WHY I AM MAKING THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
OH, THERE IS THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
UH, A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SIPES.
COMMISSIONER GIBBONS CAN APPRECIATE THE TIME EVERYONE'S PUT INTO IT AND THE CONCERNS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THIS NEW DESIGNATION.
HOWEVER, I AM CONCERNED THAT THE OWNER WAS NOT ABLE TO BE PRESENT.
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LIKE THERE WERE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN HELPFUL IN THE CASE ALONE.UM, MF 33 18 25 WAS DESIGNATED MANY, MANY YEARS AGO WHEN THE STREET WAS DESIGNED.
I DON'T THINK THAT THAT WAS A CONCERN AT THE TIME.
I DON'T THINK IT IS ONE TODAY AS WELL.
UM, SO I WOULD'VE PREFERRED A MOTION TO DEFERRALS TO CONTINUE SO THAT THE OWNER COULD SHOW UP AND MAYBE GIVE US A LITTLE MORE UNDERSTANDING OF, UH, THAT SHE UNDERSTANDS SOME THINGS.
AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT SO SURE I DO HAVE THAT, UH, CLARITY THERE, SO I'M NOT GONNA SUPPORT THE MOTION TO APPROVE, ALTHOUGH I WOULD AGREE WITH IT.
I JUST THINK THAT IN LIES THAT THE, UM, OWNER CAN BE HERE.
I THINK, UH, A CONTINUANCE WOULD'VE BEEN A LITTLE MORE GRACEFUL.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER GR HOUSE AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SIPES.
ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 14.
WE WOULD LIKE TO SKIP OVER ITEM 14 AND SAVE THAT ONE FOR LAST SINCE WE CAN'T GET AHOLD OF THE APPLICANT AT THE MOMENT AND GO TO ITEM 18 IN THE MEANTIME.
[18. 21-1254 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700299 (Council District 2)]
18 GIVEN THE ABSENCE OF THE APPLICANT ON 14.SO STARTING WITH ITEM NUMBER 18, IT IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM N P 10 AND N NP 10 A H O D TO C THREE NA SORRY, LET ME REWORD THAT.
THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM NP 10 AND NP 10 A H O D AND C THREE NA TO I ONE AND I ONE A H O D.
ALL OTHER OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
LOCATED AT FOUR 18 SOUTHEAST LOOP FOUR 10.
ONE WAS RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO WERE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION.
THE EASTERN TRIANGLE GROUP IS IN SUPPORT.
THE CURRENT NP 10 NEIGHBORHOOD PRESERVATION DISTRICT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH ZONING AND LAND USES IN THE AREA WHICH ARE MORE GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IN NATURE.
THE EXISTING C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED I ONE IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA, THUS STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF L LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
THE L LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING B C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING IN THE AREA AND WITH THE BUSINESS PARK LAND USE.
THE SUBJECT SITE HAS GOOD VEHICULAR ACCESS FROM THE SOUTHEAST LOOP FOUR 10 SERVICE ROAD, WHICH IS APPROPRIATE FOR A WAREHOUSE WITH DISTRIBUTION CENTER.
UM, IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES SIR.
WE HAVE THE APPLICANT ON THE LINE.
ARE YOU THERE CAROLYN? WELL, WE'RE WAITING FOR THE CONNECTION TO MS. BROWN.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT THE APPLICANT HAD INDICATED THAT THEY WILL BE AMENDING THEIR REQUEST TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF L LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
REGARDING COMMISSIONERS, UH, CAROLINE MCDONALD, BROWN AND ORTIZ ONE 12 EAST PEON HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, OAKMONT INDUSTRIAL GROUP? WE DO, I DO HAVE MEMBERS OF OAKMONT AND P DAWSON ON THIS CALL IF ANY QUESTIONS SHOULD COME UP.
UH, BUT AS MS. FLORES STATED, WE ARE IN ACCEPTANCE OF STAFF ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL FOR THE PROPERTY, UM, AS IT WILL ALLOW THE PROPOSED, UH, WAREHOUSE AND DISTRIBUTION CENTER USE.
UM, I, I, I'M HERE FOR ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS AND AGAIN HAVE, UM, VARIOUS PEOPLE ON THE LINE.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. MCDONALD.
IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT STAFF?
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NO SIR.UM, IN THAT CASE, I'D LIKE TO GO TO COMMISSIONER DR.
UM, I JUST HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THIS.
UH, WITH THE INFORMATION SENT, THEY WERE SAYING THAT, UH, INDUSTRIAL ONE IS NOT COMPATIBLE, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THE MAP EVERYTHING AROUND IT IS, IS IS I ONE THAT JUST FOR MY OWN EDUCATION? YES MA'AM.
YOU WERE VERY ASTUTE AND YOU CAUGHT THAT VERY WELL.
UH, WHAT HAPPENED HERE IS, UH, WHAT WE SURMISE IS THAT THE LAND USE WAS CHANGED.
MOST OF THE AREA BECAME BUSINESS PARTS, BUT THE CORRESPONDING LARGE AREA REZONING FOR WHATEVER REASONS, RESOURCES DIDN'T HAPPEN WITH THAT.
SO ACTUALLY MOST OF THE ACTUAL USES ON THE GROUND OUT THERE ARE MORE, UH, CONSISTENT WITH THE C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
HOWEVER, A LOT OF THE ZONING IN THE AREA IS, IN FACT I ONE.
YES, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, AND, UM, IT'S OTHERWISE SINCE THEY'RE ACCEPTING OF THE OTHER ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION, UM, COMMISSIONER, UH, BOOSTER MONTE, IF, IF ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL GIVE UP THE FLOOR.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER JONES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? I'M SEEING AN AWFUL LOT OF SHAKING HEADS SO I'M GONNA TAKE THAT AS A NO.
COMMISSIONER JONES, BACK TO YOU.
UM, IF, IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS THEN I AM MOVING FOR ACCEPTANCE.
UM, MOVING TO ACCEPT THE, UH, ALTERNATE MOTION, UH, FOR L THERE'S L L UH, ZONING.
THERE IS A MOTION, UH, TO ACCEPT THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING.
FROM COMMISSIONER MCGEE IS WHO I HEARD FIRST.
THERE IS AN UH, MOTION FOR ACCEPTANCE OF THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BY COMMISSIONER JONES AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCGEE.
UH, THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED TO THE L LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT COMM.
AND CAROLYN, I APOLOGIZE FOR TRYING TO MARRY YOU OFF.
[14. 21-1321 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700295 (Council District 1)]
14 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO TO I DZ TWO WITH USES PERMITTED FOR NINE DWELLING UNITS.ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
LOCATED AT TWO 20 AND 2 24 EAST PORTLAND PLACE.
ONE WAS RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO WERE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND ONE WAS RECEIVED OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT BUFFER IN OPPOSITION.
THE TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED TO THE PROPOSAL AS REQUESTED, BUT THEY ARE IN SUPPORT OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
THE CURRENT C TWO ZONING IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED I D Z TWO MEDIUM INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR NINE DWELLING UNITS WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE AS THE PRESCRIBED DENSITY FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
CALLS FOR MORE LIMITED DENSITY IN THE MIDTOWN REGIONAL CENTER PLAN.
THUS STAFF RECOMMENDS I D Z ONE LIMITED DENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE AS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE THAT IS THE LAND USE RECOMMENDED BY THE NEWLY ADOPTED MIDTOWN REGIONAL CENTER.
PLAN THIS LIMITS AND MAINTAINS THE NECESSARY DENSITY PER THE PLAN'S DESIGN AND ANALYSIS STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF I D
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Z ONE LIMITED INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR SEVEN DWELLING UNITS, MR. CHAIR.IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? UH, YES I AM.
IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND STATE YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND THEN PLEASE PRESENT.
MY ADDRESS IS SIX 18 EAST LOCUST.
UM, I'M AN ARCHITECT AND PLANNER REPRESENTING ANTONIO QUADRA.
THE, UH, THE OWNER FOR THE PROJECT.
UM, WE HAD ACTUALLY REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE AND HAD DISCUSSED THAT, UM, WITH UM, UH, MS. GREATHOUSE AND I I BELIEVE THAT ALSO, UM, DISTRICT ONE STAFF WAS SUPPORTING A CONTINUANCE SO THAT WE COULD HAVE SOME MORE TIME TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND WE ALSO HAVE A, UH, A PLAN AMENDMENTS UNDERWAY FOR THIS, WHICH WILL BE HEARD AT THE FEBRUARY 10TH MEETING AND THINK THAT A CONTINUANCE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT ADDRESSED FIRST.
I APOLOGIZE I STEPPED OUT 'CAUSE I THOUGHT I SMELLED SOMETHING BURNING.
UH, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT STAFF? YES SIR.
THERE IS THAT ONE, UH, VOICEMAIL THAT WE HAD IN THE WRONG FOLDER.
WE CAN, UH, REPLAY THAT VERY QUICKLY FOR THE RECORD.
GOOD AFTERNOON OR GOOD MORNING.
I'M THE OWNER OF 2 0 5 THROUGH 2 0 9 EAST COURTLAND.
BEEN THE OWNER FOR 32 YEARS AND THIS IS REGARDING THE ZONING CASE.
THE LAST DIGITS ARE 1 0 7 0 0 2 9 5 1 0 7 0 0 2 9 5.
BASICALLY THE ISSUE IN REGARDS IS IN GENERAL I REJECT THE PROPOSAL FOR THE, UH, REZONING OF TWO 20 AND 2 24 EAST COURTLAND TO BASICALLY FROM ONE UNIT PER QUARTER ACRE TO 4.5 UNITS PER QUARTER ACRE.
AND THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY, I OWN THE PROPERTY THAT I SAID FOR 32 YEARS.
THEY DEVELOPED ONE ACRE PROPERTY, THEY PUT 15 UNITS ON IT.
ESSENTIALLY THEY'RE AVERAGING 3.75 UNITS FOR QUARTER ACRE.
UH, IT'S DONE THE SAME DOWN ON MY STREET ON THE GROUND HUNDRED BLOCK.
SO THIS PROPERTY IS PROPOSING UP TO FOUR
AND OF COURSE THE VALUES
UH, THE VALUES HAVE WENT FROM ROUGHLY 25 TO $50,000 PER QUARTER ACRE TO NOW WE'RE BORDERING ON 150,000.
SO IT'S PUTTING STRAIN ON THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE AREA IS OBVIOUSLY HIGHER TAXES, HIGHER VALUES IS PUTTING MORE CONGESTION IN THE AREA.
SO AGAIN, I REJECT THE, UH, NOTION OF NINE UNITS AT THE PROPERTY KNOWN AS TWO 20 THROUGH 2 24 EAST COURTLAND, OR AGAIN, IS THE ZONING NUMBER IS 0 7 0 0 2 9 5 BASED UPON IT'S CAUSING TOO MUCH DENSITY.
HAVE A GREAT DAY AND AGAIN, UH, APPRECIATE YOU HEARING MY COMMENTS ON, BY THE WAY, I WOULD ACCEPT LESS THAN SEVEN UNITS ON THESE TWO QUARTER EQUAL PROPERTIES, BUT NOT NINE.
ALRIGHT, NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UM, YOU CAN HAVE SOME TIME TO REBUT OR WE CAN MOVE ON.
UH, I'M GONNA GO TO COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IF MR. LOUDON WANTS HIS TIME, WE CAN ADDRESS THAT LATER.
AND, AND MR. LOUDON'S UM, COMMENT IS CORRECT.
THIS, THIS, UH, CASE SHOULD BE, UH, SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE, THE, UH, COMBINED HEARING NUMBER TWO AND THAT WAS MY MISTAKE IN, IN TRYING TO MANAGE NINE CASES TODAY.
THIS ONE SLIPPED THROUGH THE CRACKS.
UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE FOR ITEM NUMBER 15, SORRY, 14 TO, UM, THE MARCH 2ND COMMISSION HEARING.
THERE IS A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO THE MARCH 2ND HEARING, UH, BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY COMMENTS? DISCUSSIONS? COMMISSIONER O'NEAL? I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION BEFORE I LOSE IT.
DID THE CALLER JUST SAY HE WOULD ACCEPT SEVEN OR LESS THAN SEVEN? LESS THAN SEVEN.
I DON'T EVEN THINK I CAUGHT THAT.
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IS IMPORTANT.ANY OTHER COMMENTS? DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONERS? I AM SEEING NONE.
MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO MARCH 2ND.
UH, WITH A SECOND TO BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
MOTION? UH, FOR CONTINUANCE TO MARCH.
AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE WILL FORGIVE YOU THIS TIME.
YOU KNOW, WE'LL EXPECT MORE THE NEXT
THE FINAL ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS, UM, THE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE JANUARY 19TH, 2021 ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.
ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR AMENDMENTS TO THESE MINUTES? HEARING AND SEEING NONE.
IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE MINUTES PASS.
THERE IS A, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
I SUBMITTED BY COMMISSIONER S THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JONES.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION? I KNOW WE DON'T DO THAT.
AND ONE MORE TIME FOR COMMISSIONER KAMIN.
UH, THAT APPEARS TO BE THE END OF OUR AGENDA UNLESS THE DIRECTOR OR STAFF HAS ANYTHING ELSE.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR TIME.