* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. ALRIGHT, [00:00:01] SIR, YOU'RE READY TO GO. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU, LOGAN. ALL [2:00 P.M. Call to Order ] RIGHT, EVERYBODY, UH, WELCOME. IT IS, UH, TWO O'CLOCK AND WE WILL CALL THE, UH, MONDAY, MARCH 8TH, 2021. PLANNING COMMISSION TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING TO ORDER. WOULD STAFF PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL? I, YEAH, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND START WITH, UH, TAKING ROLL. THANK YOU. GEORGE PECK. PRESENT. CONNIE GONZALEZ. JULIA CARILLO. PRESENT. JOHN JACKSON. JOHN JACKSON. I'M HERE. ROBERT SS. HERE MCDANIEL. SETH KE. DONALD ORIAN PRESENT. ALLISON COHEN. MELINDA SMITH. SUSAN WRIGHT. DOUG BENSON. HERE. JUAN FERNANDEZ. TACKETT. PRESENT. BOB LEEMAN. PRESENT. RYAN GANS. BOB LEONHARD. PRESENT. KEN BROWN. MICHAEL TAYLOR. PRESENT. ROBERT HENLEY. PRESENT. ROBERT RO PRESENT. SISE BELL. PRESENT. ROBERT TAPIA. PRESENT. CASEY WHITTINGTON. PHILLIP MANNA. PRESENT. JODY CHERYL. PRESENT. DE REED. BRITTANY DALE. PRESENT. JEAN DAWSON. MICHAEL MOORE. THE QUORUM IS PRESENT. UM, LAUREN? I'M, I'M HERE TOO. KEN BROWN. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU KEN. UH, BEFORE ON THERE, ANY, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS BEFORE WE GET INTO OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS? WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS TODAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, LOGAN. ON [1. 21-1967 MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN AMENDMENT: Consideration of a request to amend the Major Thoroughfare Plan, a component of the City of San Antonio Master Plan, by realigning a proposed segment of Kelly Parkway, a Super Arterial Type A requiring 200’ – 250’ feet of right-of-way, between existing US 281 and approximately 1.2 miles west of existing US 281. Staff recommends approval. (Marco Hinojosa, AICP, Senior Transportation Planner, (210) 207-4087, Marco.Hinojosa@sanantonio.gov, Transportation) ] ITEM NUMBER ONE, UH, COMMISSIONER . COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER P. HELLO, COMMISSIONER PECK? YEAH. BUCK, I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF ON THIS ITEM. OKAY. AND CHAIR HACKETT? I DO AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT. UM, SO STAFF, UH, DO WE DO THE SAME THING WE DO AT PLANNING COMMISSION? CAN THEY, UH, MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR DO THEY HAVE TO MUTE AND TURN OFF THEIR CAMERAS? YEAH, THE REFUSAL. GO AHEAD AND MUTE, TURN OFF YOUR CAMERA AND THEN WHEN THE, UH, ITEM IS OVER, WE'LL CALL FOR THOSE TO TURN BACK ON FOR THE MINUTES. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UM, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER ONE, THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN AMENDMENT, AND I WILL TURN THIS OVER TO STAFF FOR THEIR PRESENTATION. ALL RIGHT. LAUREN, YOU READY FOR US TO GET STARTED? I DUNNO IF WE'RE GONNA ENLARGE THE SCREEN OR NOT. I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY [00:05:01] IT'S SHOWING OUT BY, JUST GIVE US ONE SECOND. NO PROBLEM. LOOK, DEBBIE AND ROBERT HANLEY ARE SITTING ON THE SAME PATIO. , WE'RE ON DIFFERENT SIDES OF THE ROOM. . THAT'S PRETTY FUNNY THERE. ALRIGHT, THERE WE GO FOLKS. SORRY ABOUT THAT. UH, THANK Y'ALL. SO GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. THIS IS MY NAME IS GREG RENINGER. I'M A PRINCIPAL PLANNER WITH THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. UM, AND TODAY WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE MAJOR THOROUGH REFER PLAN AMENDMENT, KELLY PARKWAY. ITEM NUMBER 21 DASH 1967. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UH, SO THIS, FOR THIS MAJOR THOROUGH REFER PLAN AMENDMENT, WE'RE LOOKING AT KELLY PARKWAY, WHICH IS A SUPER ARTERIAL TYPE A REQUIRING 200 TO 250 FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY, LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT, THIS IS RELATED TO THE NAPA STAR DEVELOPMENT. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP HERE, UM, THE TWO PINK LINES COMING IN FROM THE EAST AND THE WEST AS WELL AS THE PINK AND BLUE DASH LINE ARE THE CURRENT ADOPTED ALIGNMENT OF KELLY PARKWAY. UM, WITH THE NAVISTAR DEVELOPMENT, WE ARE LOOKING TO SHIFT THIS, UH, ALIGNMENT FURTHER SOUTH. UM, SO ESSENTIALLY EVERYTHING THAT IS THE BLUE AND PINK LINE, UH, WOULD BE SHIFTED SOUTH TO THE GREEN AND PINK LINE. UH, WE DO KNOW THAT THAT LINE IS NOT CONTINUOUS RIGHT NOW, BUT WE ARE BRINGING THIS ONE AHEAD, UH, FIRST, AND WE DO PLAN ON COMING BACK WITH THE EASTERN AND WESTERN SIDES AS THERE'S, THERE'S MORE PORTIONS OF KELLY PARKWAY AS PART OF A BIGGER STUDY THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO REALIGN, UM, FOR THE CONNECTIVITY. SO IT DOES NOT, WE DO NOT INTEND TO HAVE TWO T INTERSECTIONS, UH, SO CLOSE TOGETHER. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO, SOME FACTORS THAT ARE CONSIDERED IN THIS ALIGNMENT. UM, SO CURRENTLY THE EAST WEST CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN US TWO ONE AND STATE HIGHWAY 16, UM, IS PRIMARILY HANDLED BY LOOP FOUR 10 AND 1604. UH, THERE ARE MAJOR TRIP GENERATORS ALONG KELLY PARKWAY OR THE KELLY PARKWAY, UM, THOROUGHFARE, UH, TEXAS A M SAN ANTONIO CAMPUS TOYOTA, THE MISSION DEL LAGO MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS THE NEW NAVISTAR MANUFACTURING PLANT HERE ALONG THE SITE. UM, SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER TOO IS THE C P S TRANSMISSION LINE CONFLICTS. UM, THOSE ARE NOW, UM, NOT RUNNING ALMOST LITERALLY ON TOP OF EACH OTHER WITH THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE KELLY PARKWAY. UM, SO THERE WON'T BE A NEED TO CROSS THE, THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO C P S TRANSMISSION LINES RIGHT HERE THAT KELLY PARKWAY WOULD NOT NEED TO CROSS IN THIS SECTION. NOW, UH, THIS ALIGNMENT WILL STILL CON, STILL RETAIN THE CONNECTIVITY THAT KELLY PARKWAY IS MEANT TO SERVE AS ADOPTED IN THE M T P. UM, AND KELLY PARKWAY WILL SUPPORT THE DISTRIBUTING TRAFFIC ALL THE WAY FROM STATE HIGHWAY 16 APPLEWHITE STARS AND MOURA INTUITIVE ONE, UH, LIMITING TRAFFIC ON SOME EXISTING ROADWAYS THAT WOULD OTHERWISE OPERATE OVER CAPACITY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UH, LOOKING AT OUR TIMELINE AND NEXT STEPS. SO WE ARE HERE TODAY AT PLANNING COMMISSION TAC, UH, WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING SCHEDULED FOR MARCH 18TH, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION, PUBLIC HEARING MARCH 24TH, AND FINALLY A CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING DATE ON APRIL 15TH. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UH, SO THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT DOES RECOMMEND, UM, APPROVAL AS PRESENTED TODAY, UM, AND WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GREGORY. UM, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. I THINK THE WAY I'M GONNA DO THIS IS I'M JUST GONNA GO DOWN THE LIST THAT I HAVE FOR THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE AND JUST ASK IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, WEIGH IN. IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE ON. UM, SO WE'LL BEGIN WITH, UH, JULIA CORILLO, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. OKAY, JOHN JACKSON. [00:10:01] SORRY ABOUT THAT. NO QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. UH, ROBERT SIPES, NO QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. UH, DONALD ORE. YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE GONNA COME BACK LATER ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDE. I SEE WHY NAVISTAR IS A DRIVING FORCE ON THE EAST SIDE, BUT ON THE WEST SIDE. WHY DIDN'T THE LINE CONTINUE UP AND TIE INTO WHERE, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE SOUTH PROPERTY, JUST TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION? NO, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. UM, I'LL HANDLE IT HIGH LEVEL, BUT WE ALSO DO HAVE SOME SAWS REPRESENTATIVES ON THE LINE. I KNOW IT'S PART AS A WETLAND, UH, THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PRESERVE, AND I THINK WE DO HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE FROM SAWS IF THEY, IF WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC ANSWER ON THAT TOO. YEAH, THIS IS DONOVAN BURTON WITH SAWS. UM, SO THIS, THIS PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY, WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF PURCHASING IT NOW WHERE IT SAYS SAWS. UM, WE ARE PUTTING A MAJOR WETLAND AREA RIGHT THERE TO TAKE CARE OF THE MITCHELL LAKE, UM, UH, ISSUE WE HAVE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE BUILDING A, A SET OF CONSTRUCTED WETLANDS DOWN SOUTH OF THE LAKE, AND THE PREVIOUS ALIGNMENT GOES RIGHT THROUGH ONE OF THE PRINCIPAL WETLANDS THAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE DESIGNING. SO, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF REQUESTED THAT WE PUSH IT BELOW THAT WETLANDS AREA SO THAT WE COULD ACCOMPLISH THAT. SO THANK YOU, YOUR PROJECT FOR SAWS, UM, REQUIRED BY THE E P A. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. OKAY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, DONALD? UH, NO, SIR. ALRIGHT, THANKS. UH, ALSO FOR THE RECORD, KEN BROWN WILL BE RECUSING FROM THIS ITEM. ALL MOVING ON WITH THE QUESTIONS. UH, RYAN GANS, ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS. BOB EASTMAN? NO QUESTIONS. UH, ROB LEONHARD? NO QUESTIONS. MICHAEL TAYLOR? UM, YEAH, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. UM, EITHER FOR STAFF OR MAYBE FOR SAWS. SO THE NEW ALIGNMENT, UM, IS RIGHT ON THE BOUNDARY OF THE NA STAR PROPERTY, AND THEN THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH THAT'S SHOWN AS UNDER SAS OWNERSHIP, BUT I THINK I REMEMBER SEEING THAT THAT WAS A SURPLUS PROPERTY THAT WAS BEING SOLD BY SAS. UM, SO IS THE, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A NEW OWNER YET OR IF THAT'S STILL IN THE PROCESS, BUT, UM, I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION. IF THERE IS A NEW OWNER, ARE THEY AWARE THAT, UM, THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CONSTRUCTING HALF OF THE MA OR AFFAIR? YEAH, SO THIS IS DONOVAN AND BURGAN WITH SAWS. UM, SO JUST TO, TO CLARIFY, THE ENTIRE ROAD IS ON THE SER UH, SAWS PROPERTY. UH, IT'S BEING MOVED ONTO THE SOLVES PROPERTY. WE'RE HAPPY TO FACILITATE THAT, BUT WE HAVE ALREADY DESIGNATED A PIECE OF THAT, THAT PROPERTY TO THE CITY TO BUILD THIS, UH, UH, PROPERTY. AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THE REMAINING PIECE OF IT BEING DEDICATED THAT TO, TO THE CITY. THE, THE PIECE THAT YOU'VE NOTED AS BEING A SURPLUS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY ADJACENT TO, BUT IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THIS, UH, ROAD. SO THE SURPLUS PROPERTY DOES NOT INCLUDE THIS ROAD, UH, SURFACE. OKAY. SO, SO THE ROAD IS ACTUALLY, SO MAYBE IT'S JUST HARD TO SEE ON THE MAP, BUT, BUT THE ROAD IS ENTIRELY ON THE NAVISTAR PROPERTY, IS THAT RIGHT GREG? SO THAT NAVISTAR WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CONSTRUCTING ALL OF IT? NAVISTAR IS, UM, THEY ARE CONSTRUCTING, UH, ABOUT A HALF MILE OF THE TWO LANE ROAD RIGHT NOW, UM, STARTING AT US TWO, ONE AND HEADING WEST. UM, SO THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR AT LEAST THE TWO LANE SECTION THAT'S COMING RIGHT NOW AT THE SHARED USE PATH, AND THAT'S GONNA BE JUST A HALF MILE SEGMENT FROM NOW. OKAY. SO THEN WOULD THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE SOUTH, WOULD THEY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OTHER TWO LANES? DONOVAN, DO YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THAT'S AT? AGAIN, THIS IS DONOVAN, UH, THE ENTIRE ROAD AGAIN IS ON THE SAWS PROPERTY THAT WE'VE DEDICATED A PIECE OF IT TO THE CITY. THE REST OF IT WILL BE STILL, UH, DEDICATED TO THE CITY BY SAWS. SAWS STILL OWNS, IT IS GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS TO DEDICATED TO THE CITY. SO THE, THE PERSON THAT PURCHASES THE SURPLUS WON'T BE ENGAGED IN BUILDING THAT PIECE OF ROAD. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. AM I NOT ANSWERING IT? YEAH, WELL, I I DON'T KNOW. I I GUESS SO YOU'RE SAYING IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE NAVISTAR THAT CONSTRUCTS BOTH SIDES OF IT, BECAUSE I MEAN, TYPICALLY A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE, IF IT'S ON THE, IF IT'S ON THE BOUNDARY LINE BETWEEN TWO PROPERTIES, BOTH PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE RESPONSIBILITY FOR CONSTRUCTING HALF OF IT, AND IT'S AT THE POINT WHERE THE PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED. SO IF THE PROPERTY THAT'S OWNED BY SAS THAT'S SOUTH OF THE NAVA STAR, [00:15:01] IF THAT'S BEING SOLD OR HAS BEEN SOLD, UM, THEN IT WOULD BE, I MEAN, TYPICALLY IT'S GONNA BE WHOEVER DEVELOPS THAT PROPERTY THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. BUT MAYBE I'M, MAYBE I'M INCORRECT IN, IN THINKING THAT THAT'S THE PROPERTY THAT WAS SURPLUS AND THAT IS TO BE SOLD. UH, UH, MY, THERE, THERE IS NO, NO PIECE OF THIS PARTICULAR, UH, EASEMENT THAT IS ON THE NAVISTAR PROPERTY. IT IS ENTIRELY ON THE, UH, THE SAS SIDE OF THE FENCE, WHICH IS, HAS BEEN DEDICATED TO THE CITY. OKAY. I, I, YEAH, I GUESS I'M STILL CONFUSED. I MEAN, MY, MY MAIN CONCERN IS THAT ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT COULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CONSTRUCTING ALL OR A PIECE OF IT ARE NOTIFIED. UM, SO GREG, I MEAN, CAN YOU, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT STICKING SOMEBODY WITH A MM-HMM. A HUGE BILL THAT'S NOT ALLOWED. IS THE, IS THE, THE PROPERTY DOWN HERE SOUTH OF THAT ALIGNMENT, STILL OWNED BY SAWS RIGHT NOW? OR IT IT'S ALREADY BEEN THE RIGHT OF WAY WILL ALREADY BE DEDICATED? UH, IT WILL ALREADY BE DEDICATED OR IT'S THROUGH A PROCESS? IT, IT, IT, IT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE SURPLUS PROPERTY THAT'S BEING SOLD OFF. THE ENTIRE 200 FOOT BUFFER IS, OR, OR RIGHT OF WAY EASEMENT IS ENTIRELY WITHHELD EITHER BY SAWS OR THE CITY. THE ENTIRE SURPLUS PROPERTY HA IS COMPLETELY OUTSIDE OF THIS, UH, ALIGNMENT. SO THE, DOES, WHOEVER PURCHASES THE SURPLUS WILL NOT HAVE, HAVE TO DO ANYTHING IN TERMS OF BUILDING A ROAD OR, OR, UH, ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THE ROAD. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MICHAEL? UH, NO, THAT'S IT FOR ME. YOU'RE GOOD. UH, MR. BOB LEAMAN, I'D LIKE MS. BOB, I'D LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION. OKAY. MISSED YOUR TURN. , I MISSED MY TURN. I, YEAH, WE'RE WORKING ON THIS, UH, THIS CELL PHONE HERE, TRYING TO MAKE IT DO WHAT WE WANT IT TO DO. OKAY. GO AHEAD, BOB. ANYWAY, I I SEE WHAT, UH, UH, ANOTHER GENTLEMAN, I CAN'T SAY HIS NAME WAS, WAS TALKING ABOUT, IT SEEMS TO ME WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT THEY'RE GONNA GIVE THAT PROPERTY TO THE CITY TO BE USED AT SOME POINT BY SOMEONE ELSE TO BUILD A ROADWAY THERE, AND NEITHER SAWS NOR THE PERSON THEY SELL THE PROPERTY TO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ACTUALLY BUILDING ANYTHING. IS THAT RIGHT? THAT I DON'T KNOW. UM, I MEAN, AS WE HEARD, TYPICALLY THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE THOROUGHFARES ARE EITHER DONE THROUGH A DEVELOPMENT PROCESS OR THROUGH SOME BUILT BY THE CITY OR SOME OTHER AGENCY. UM, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, I JUST KNOW THAT THE FIRST HALF MILE IS, IS GOING TO BE BUILT BY NAVISTAR WITH THE TWO LANE SECTION. THAT WOULD BE THE WESTBOUND LANES WHEN THE, WHEN THE ROADWAY'S BUILT TO ITS FULL CONFIGURATION. BUT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE, UM, THE FUTURE CONSTRUCTION OF, OF THE ALIGNMENT ALL THE WAY TO PLEASANTON. ARE WE SAYING, AM I HEARING YOU CORRECTLY THEN THAT NAVA STAR IS GOING TO ACTUALLY CONSTRUCT HALF OF THAT DESIGNATED ROADWAY? THEY'LL BE CONSTRUCTING THE FIRST HALF MILE, UM, WHAT FROM 2 81 HEADING WEST FIRST HALF MILE OF ITS LENGTH, BUT NOT ACROSS THAT WHOLE LENGTH OF THE PROPOSAL? NO, THE WHOLE SECTION IS ABOUT 1.2. SO A LITTLE LESS THAN HALF TO PLEASANTON ROAD, THEY'D BE CONSTRUCTING A TWO LANE SECTION, UM, WITH THE SHARED USE PATH. SO IT LOOKS TO ME THAT SOMEBODY UN DESIGNATED AT THIS POINT IS GONNA HAVE TO BUILD THE REST OF THE ROAD. IN OTHER WORDS, I E THE PUBLIC IS GONNA HAVE TO BUILD THE REST, RIGHT. ROLLWAY WITHOUT MONETARY ASSISTANCE FROM ANYBODY. YEAH, I FIGURED THAT ONE OUT. YOU, YEAH, POSSIBLY. I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE, BUT, UM, THAT'S WHAT NAZAR HAS RIGHT NOW. OKAY, I GET IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, BOB? NO, SIR. OKAY. UH, MOVE ON TO, UH, MR. ROBERT HANLEY. YEAH, UH, I HAVE A QUESTION, GREG. YES, SIR. THIS IS PART OF THE, THE, THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND IT'S KELLY PARKWAY. AND IF I LOOK AT WHAT'S BEEN ADOPTED VERSUS WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, I DON'T HAVE ANY EXCEPTIONS WITH THAT, AND I DO AGREE THAT IT NEEDS TO BE SOUTH OF THE OVERHEAD, UH, POWER THAT COMES FROM BRO LAKE, BUT WHEN IT HITS PLEASANTON, DOES THE ROAD ON THE OTHER SIDE OF PLEASANTON HAVE TO BE MOVED TO REALIGN WITH THE NEW PROPOSED KELLY PARKWAY? YES, SIR. I KNOW THERE IS A MINOR ROAD THERE. WE DO HAVE A STUDY THROUGH DAWSON THAT HELPS LOOK AT THIS. UM, THE PLAN IS AT [00:20:01] PLEASANTON IN THE FUTURE THAT WOULD BE GREAT SEPARATED BECAUSE THE RAILROAD IS THERE AS WELL. RIGHT. UM, SO THE ACTUAL ENGINEERING OF IT, I, I CAN'T TELL YOU YET. IT'S JUST KIND OF A LINE RIGHT NOW WITH THE THOROUGHFARE, BUT THAT IS A CONSIDERATION TAKEN TO EFFECT WITH PLEASANTON, THE RAILROAD AND THE ROAD THERE AS WELL. SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE, THE OTHER SIDE OF PLEASANTON, THERE WILL BE AN AMENDMENT OR A MODIFICATION TO THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN SO THAT IT LINES UP WITH THE PROPOSED REALIGNMENT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM. YES, SIR. WE LOOK, WE LOOK TO THAT IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, OBVIOUSLY WE WANT KELLY PARKWAY TO BE CONTINUOUS THROUGH HERE, THE SAME AS IT IS TO THE, THE SAME IDEA THAT WE WANNA DO TO THE EAST AS WELL, OUTTA CURIOSITY. WHY AREN'T WE ADDRESSING THAT HERE WITH THIS COMMITTEE AT THE SAME TIME? I KNOW THAT WE'RE ON, ON A TIGHT DEADLINE WITH NAVISTAR WANTING TO DEVELOP AND THEY NEED THIS ROADWAY TO ACCESS THEIR, I GUESS, THEIR FACILITY. UM, KELLY PARKWAY IS A VERY LONG STRETCH THAT WE HAVE A COUPLE DIFFERENT SECTIONS HERE TO THE EAST RIGHT HERE, 2 81 OVER TO FLORES, UM, TO CONNECT TO BLUE WING. WE HAVE THIS SECTION RIGHT HERE TO THE E UH, TO THE WEST OF PLEASANTON. AND THERE'S ALSO ABOUT A ONE MILE STRETCH, UH, FROM HIGHWAY 16 TO EAST OF APPLEWHITE THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS. WELL, AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE PUBLIC. UH, THERE'S A LOT OF PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WE WANT TO TALK WITH AND, UM, WE WANTED TO MOVE THIS ONE ALONG FIRST. WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE WAS ISSUES, UH, WORKING WITH SAWS AND THE, UH, THE WETLANDS AND SOME OF THE SELLING OF PROPERTY WAS IMPORTANT. THANK. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, GREG. THANK YOU, ROBERT. ALL RIGHT. UH, ROBERT GOHAR, NO QUESTIONS. CHERISE BELL, NO QUESTIONS. ROBERT TAPIA? YES. I'M JUST CURIOUS, UH, THAT AREA ON THE NAVISTAR SIDE BETWEEN THE ADOPTED ALIGNMENT AND THE PROPOSED ALIGNMENT, WHAT'S THAT LITTLE GRAY AREA? THE LITTLE GRAY SQUARE, THE A, LOOKS LIKE A FLAG LOT PART OF THE PLAT? YES. I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE. I JUST KNOW IT'S NOT PART OF THE NAVISTAR PROPERTY. THIS IS DONOVAN AGAIN WITH WATER SYSTEM, THAT THAT IS A PIECE OF, UH, SAWS PROPERTY THAT WE DESIGNATED FOR FUTURE TANK, UM, AT SOME POINT. AND I HOPE THE ROAD WE'VE, WE'VE ALREADY ADJUSTED. WE DON'T NEED TO BE TOO CLOSE TO IT THEN. CORRECT. UH, THE, THE NEW ADOPT THE NEW PROPOSED ALIGNMENT WOULD NOT IMPACT THAT AT ALL. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. PHILLIP MANNA? NO QUESTIONS. JODY. SHE, UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I'M A LITTLE PERPLEXED AS WHY WE DON'T HAVE THIS FLESHED OUT ON BOTH THOSE ENDS. UM, I WOULD THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE CONNECTED BEFORE WE REALLY APPROVE THIS. AND I UNDERSTAND THE, THE URGENCY TO, FOR NAV STAR TO PROCEED. UH, AND I THINK WE'RE LEAVING OURSELVES THE CITY WIDE OPEN FOR A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CONSTRUCTION COST TO FINISH THIS PROJECT. 'CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE NOBODY'S GONNA TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT. THAT'S ALL. OKAY. UH, DEBBIE REED? DEBBIE REED? I DON'T THINK SHE WAS HERE. OH, OKAY. I THOUGHT I SAW HER NAME. UH, BRITTANY DELL. SHE WAS HERE. SHE WAS SITTING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PATIO FROM ROBERT HANLEY. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. ? UH, YES. THIS IS BRITTANY DELL AND I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THE MOMENT. I'M ACTUALLY, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YEAH. OH, YEP. THERE YOU GO. SURE. YES, IT'S DEBBIE REED. YES. I WANNA REITERATE JODY'S COMMENTS. UM, I THINK THAT, AND ALSO BOBS THAT THIS WOULD'VE BEEN BETTER DONE WITH HAVING THE FLUSHED OUT ON THE WESTERN PORTION, AND IT DOES LOOK LIKE THE CITY'S OPEN FOR A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION COSTS, SO I'M NOT SURE THAT I CAN SUPPORT THIS AT THIS TIME. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOVE ON TO BRITTANY. DALE, DID YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? DO NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THE MOMENT. ALL RIGHT. UM, JEAN AND MICHAEL ARE NOT HERE. ALL RIGHT. DID ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY, UH, FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS? UH, GEORGE. GEORGE, I'M, THIS IS MICHAEL MOORE. I'M HERE. OH, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTION. OKAY. THANKS MIKE. HEY, GEORGE. UH, ROB HARDIGAN, AFTER HEARING ALL THIS, UM, I, I'M SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR, FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE, UM, I, I IS THE, IS THE HALF MILE, UM, WHICH OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T GO TO THE END OF THE [00:25:01] PROPERTY. IS THAT TO THE LAST, OR, OR THE, THE ENTRANCE, UM, MAIN ENTRANCE TO NAVISTAR FROM KELLY PARKWAY WHEN IT'S BUILT? IS THAT THE REASON FOR THE 0.5 MILES OR DOES ANYBODY KNOW THAT? YES, I'M HUNDRED PERCENT SURE. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE FAMILIAR WITH THE NAPA STAR SITE IS FAMILIAR. I KNOW IT'S ACCESS THEIR SITE, BUT I DON'T KNOW, UM, IF IT'S MAIN ENTRANCE NECESSARILY. I, I HEARD YES. WAS THAT KARA? YES. IT PROVIDES ACCESS TO THEIR SITE, TO THEIR ENTRANCE AND EXITS AND THE TWO LANE AMOUNT THAT HALF MILE THEIR BUILDING EXCEEDS THEIR ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY REQUIREMENT. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH, LIKE I SAID, I WAS, I, I WAS, I, I KNEW KIND OF WHAT THE SITE LOOKED LIKE AND, UM, JUST KIND OF WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT THAT, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD ANSWER FOR ME. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION OR GENERAL COMMENTS? OKAY. UM, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. AGAIN, SOME OF MY QUESTIONS WERE, UH, SIMILAR TO THE OTHERS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED ABOUT BAT TIE-INS ON THE TWO ENDS. ONE, ONE COMMENT FOR STAFF, AND, AND YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD THIS BEFORE, BUT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE KIND OF LIKE A ZOOMED OUT MAP WHEN WE GET THESE TO SHOW THE ENTIRE AREA BECAUSE THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, I WENT AND DUG UP THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND KIND OF LOOKED AT IT AND UH, HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT, BUT JUST A KIND OF A ZOOMED OUT PORTION OF THE MAP THAT SHOWS REALLY THE EXTENTS OF THIS ROADWAY SO WE CAN GET A FEEL FOR WHERE IT'S COMING FROM AND WHERE IT'S GOING. AND THEN KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THIS EXHIBIT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE DETAIL PART OF IT, BUT, UH, JUST A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON IT. AND ALSO WITH ONES LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, TO WHERE THERE IS KIND OF AN ODDITY ON THE TWO ENDS WHERE THEY'RE NOT CONNECTING SOME, SOME STATEMENT OR SOME DESCRIPTION OF WHAT'S GOING ON. 'CAUSE THE FIRST THOUGHT I HAD WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS IS, WELL, THAT'S WEIRD. AND, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST SOME DESCRIPTION I THINK WOULD, WOULD, WOULD'VE HELPED A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT HERE. UM, AND JUST ANOTHER GENERAL QUESTION FOR STAFF. YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NAVISTAR IS, IS, IS BUILDING WHAT WOULD BE THEIR ROUGH PROPORTIONATE SHARE, YOU KNOW, BUT THE REST OF IT IS KIND OF GOING THROUGH NO MAN'S LAND AND THE CITY'S OKAY WITH THAT, RIGHT. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, NO ONE KNOWS WHO'S GONNA PAY FOR THAT OR IF IT'S GONNA GET BUILT OR WHEN, BUT I GUESS THE OKAY WITH THAT, YES, AS OF RIGHT NOW, THIS HAS BEEN OUR RECOMMENDATION, UM, AS STAFF TO AVOID THE TRANSMISSION LINES AND PROVIDE, UH, WITH THE SWAN LAND WITHOUT THE CONFLICT THERE. OKAY. AND STILL CONTINUE THE CONNECTIVITY, CORRECT. RIGHT. OKAY. UM, THAT'S THE EXTENT OF MY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS. ANYBODY ELSE? IF NOT, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS ROBERT HANLEY. I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE PROPOSED REALIGNMENT AS SUBMITTED BY STAFF. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY ROBERT HANLEY. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND ORIAN. OKAY. SECOND. BY DONALD ORIAN. UH, STAFF, PLEASE DO A, UH, UH, ROLL CALL VOTE. GEORGE PECK. AYE. JULIA CARILLO? YES. JOHN JACKSON. JOHN JACKSON? NO. ROBERTS? YES. DONALD ORIAN. YES. BOB LEEMAN? NO. BRIAN PAGANS. YES. ROB LINHART? YES. ROBERT HENLEY. YES. ROBERT RA. YES. BELL? YES. MICHAEL TAYLOR? YES. ROBERT . YES. PHILLIP? YES. JODY. CHERYL. JODY. CHERYL? NO, I WAS MUTED. NO. DEBRA REED? NO. BRITTANY JONES. NO. MOTION PASSES. WHAT WAS THE COUNT ON THAT STAFF? 12. 12 TO FIVE. [00:30:03] OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [2. 21-1968 Approval of minutes from the October 27, 2020 meeting. ] ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO OLD BUSINESS, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH WOULD BE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE OCTOBER 27TH, 2020 MEETING. WE HAVE, UH, ANY COMMENTS OR A MOTION ON THAT MOVE FOR APPROVAL? THIS IS JODY. JODY ROBERT HANLEY. SECOND. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY, UH, JODY CHERYL AND A SECOND BY ROBERT HANLEY. UH, I GUESS, UH, STAFF ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. GEORGE PECK. YES. CARILLO? YES. JOHN JACKSON. JOHN JACKSON WASN'T THERE ROBERT? YES. JOHN. DONNA ORIAN. ABSTAIN WAS NOT PRESENT. BUD BENSON? YES. KARA? YES. BOB LEMAN. YES. BRIAN PAGAN. YES. ROB LEONHART. UH, ABSTAIN. I WASN'T PRESENT. KEN BROWN. MICHAEL TAYLOR. YES. ROBERT HENLEY. YES. ROBERT RO. YES. CHERISE BELL? YES. ROBERT TAPIA. YES. SO THAT MENA? YES. JODY. CHERYL? YES. DEBRA REED. GOD, WHY IS THIS SO HARD? DEBRA REED. SORRY. NO, . I CAN'T, WE WE CAN HEAR YOU. OH, YOU CAN? OH, GREAT. YEAH. UM, ABSTAINED. SORRY, WASN'T THERE. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME KNOW. UH, BRITTANY, I WAS NOT PRESENT. OH, SO ABSTAINED? YES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. MOTION PASSES. 14 TO ZERO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THAT'S EVERYTHING WE HAVE. DOES STAFF HAVE ANY OTHER INFORMATION FOR US? THAT IS ALL FOR THE DAY. WE APPRECIATE IT, EVERYONE. ALL RIGHT. IT IS, IT IS 2 33 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.