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4:00 PM ON THIS WEDNESDAY, APRIL 7TH, 2021.
I BELIEVE WE ARE NEARING A QUORUM WHERE WE HAVE A QUORUM.
SO, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL OUR CITY COUNCIL B.
UH, MADAME CLERK, COULD YOU GET US STARTED WITH A ROLL? COUNCIL MEMBER TINO HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN.
HERE, MAYOR, WE HAVE A QUORUM.
ALRIGHT, WELL GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.
[1. 21-2614 Alamo Briefing]
AGENDA TODAY, AND THAT IS THE BRIEFING ON UPDATES TO THE ALAMO PLAN, UH, AND THE GROUND LEASE AND MANAGEMENT AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE TEXAS GENERAL LAND OFFICE.UH, LET ME JUST GO AHEAD AND, UH, START BY, UH, MAKING A FEW REMARKS.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION'S DENIAL TO MOVE THE SENATE TAF HAS AN IMPACT ON THE OVERALL DESIGN OF THIS PROJECT.
THIS CHANGE WILL REQUIRE REDESIGN AS IT IMPACTS THE ABILITY TO RECAPTURE THE HISTORIC MISSION PLAZA AND CHANGES WHAT THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE PLAZA LOOKS LIKE.
THIS COUNCIL HAS HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS REGARDING THE ALAMO PLAN, AND WE DISCUSSED WHETHER OR NOT TO AMEND OR UNWIND THE LEASE AGREEMENT.
THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL SUPPORTED OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE G L O AND RECOGNIZED ITS BENEFITS PROVIDED THAT THE VISION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES REMAIN THE FOUNDATION OF THE PLAN IF THE PARTNERSHIP CONTINUES.
IN OUR CONVERSATIONS, YOU ALL EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT ACCESS TO THE SITE, ALLOWING PARADES TO GO THROUGH THE SITE IN THE FUTURE OF THE CROCKETT AND WOOLWORTH BUILDINGS.
THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE TO REVISIT THESE ISSUES.
WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PARTIES MUST AGREE TO ANY CHANGES IN STRATEGY, I'M PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT THERE IS AN AGREEMENT AMONG THE PARTIES.
AS A MEMBER OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, I WAS BRIEFED ALONG WITH COMMISSIONER GEORGE P. BUSH ON THE PROPOSED CHANGES, AND WE WERE ALL IN AGREEMENT.
THE PARTIES REMAIN COMMITTED TO A PATH FORWARD AND ARE CONFIDENT THAT TOGETHER WE CAN IMPLEMENT A MODIFIED PLAN THAT BRINGS DIGNITY AND RESPECT TO THIS IMPORTANT SITE.
I WANNA THANK OUR CITY ATTORNEY, ANDY SEGOVIA, ALONG WITH OUR COLLEAGUES, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER REBECCA GRO FOR THEIR WORK ON THE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE.
I COMMEND THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE BY THE ALAMO CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER GRO, ALONG WITH ANETTE PIERCE AND SUEANN PEMBERTON FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP OF CO-CHAIRS OF THIS COMMITTEE.
THEY'VE MET NUMEROUS TIMES OVER THE PAST MONTH AND A HALF IN THEIR PROPOSED CHANGES.
YOU WILL SEE TODAY RECEIVE SUPPORT FROM THE A C A C MEMBERSHIP.
I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT TOOK TIME TO SEND LETTERS SUPPORTING THE CHANGES AS WELL.
THIS IS YOUR PLAZA AND YOUR VOICE IS IMPORTANT.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THE ROBUST DISCUSSION TODAY AND HEARING FROM OUR COLLEAGUES WHEN, WITH THAT, LEMME TURN IT OVER NOW TO OUR CITY MANAGER, ERIC WALSH.
UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
SO, UM, THIS AFTERNOON'S PRESENTATION, TODAY'S B SESSION IS, AS YOU MENTIONED, AS YOU KNOW, ON THE ALAMO PLAN, AND WE'LL INCLUDE A PRESENTATION BY SEVERAL OF THE PROJECT LEADERS ON HOW THE PARTNERSHIP AND PROJECT IS PROPOSED TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, IN SEPTEMBER OF 2020, UH, THE PERMIT TO RELOCATE THE SENATE HALF WAS DENIED.
AND THIS JEOPARDIZED SEVERAL COMPONENTS OF THE ALAMO PLAN, UH, FRANKLY MAKING IT POSSIBLE TO IMPLEMENT, MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE TO IMPLEMENT THE ALAMO PLAN AS APPROVED.
IN OCTOBER OF 2018, UH, THE PROJECT LEADERSHIP TEAM, UH, REMAINED COMMITTED TO THE ALMO PLAN AND, UH, IMMEDIATELY CONVENE TO DEVELOP A PLAN FORWARD AND WORK, UH, WITHIN THEIR RESPECTIVE LEADERSHIP ORGANIZATIONS TO BETTER UNDERSTAND PRIORITIES AND DEVELOP THE PATH FORWARD.
UH, STAFF HAS COME TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, UM, AND THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL EXPRESSED AN INTEREST TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT, BUT, UM, UH, REQUESTED SEVERAL KEY, UH, ISSUES ADDRESSED WITHIN THE ALAMO PLAN.
NUMBER ONE, CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO THE VISION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
UH, NUMBER TWO, REPURPOSING THE HISTORIC AND WOOLWORTH THE HISTORIC WOOLWORTH AND CROCKETT BUILDINGS.
THREE, FLEXIBILITY ON STREET CLOSURES, AND FOUR, IMPROVING ACCESS TO THE PLAZA.
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UH, ENGAGED THE DESIGN TEAM WHO YOU WILL HEAR FROM TODAY, UH, TO HELP WITH THE EFFORT AND REENGAGE THE ALAMO CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO THE LEADERSHIP, UH, PROJECT LEADERSHIP ON PROPOSED CHANGES AND NEXT STEPS.UM, BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO, UH, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, LORI HOUSTON AND THE DESIGN TEAM, UM, I THINK I'M GONNA HAND IT OFF TO COUNCILWOMAN GRO TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS TO REENGAGE THE ALAMO CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE PROCESS.
UM, AFTER THAT, UH, WE, WE DO HAVE DESIGN MEMBERS, UM, AS PART OF THE PRESENTATION AND LORI WILL INTRODUCE THEM AND, UH, THEN WE WILL GO THROUGH THE AMENDED AND REINSTATED OR RESTATED GROUND LEASE AND OPERATING AGREEMENT.
UM, THAT'LL BE PROPOSED, UH, WITH THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE.
AND AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, UM, ANDY, UH, IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
HE'S BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE, THE G L O GENERAL COUNCIL COUNCIL, UH, COUNCILWOMAN GRO, I'LL HAND OFF TO YOU.
GREAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH, ERIC.
I HAVE TO SAY I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE AT THIS POINT WITH YOU ALL SO WE ALL CAN SEE THIS TOGETHER AND ALSO TO THE PUBLIC, UH, THAT THEY CAN SEE IT ON, ON ALL OF THE STREAMING OR, UH, THE TELEVISION ON CHANNEL 21 OR WHICHEVER CHANNEL THEY'RE WATCHING.
UM, I HAVE TO SAY, I HAVE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING ON BOTH THE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE NOW WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY, ANDY GOVIA, AND, UH, AS TRI CHAIR FOR THE ALAMO CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
AND SINCE MARCH 1ST, 2021, WE HAVE BEEN VERY BUSY.
AND TODAY I'M ALSO JOINED BY THE AMAZING TRI CHAIRS, UH, THAT IS ANETTA PIERCE WHO STARTED WITH ME ON MARCH 1ST AND SUEANN PEMBERTON, WHO IS OUR INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE OF THE ALAMO CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHO'S BEEN THERE SINCE 2014.
AND TO REINTRODUCE YOU OR TO INTRODUCE YOU TO SOME NEW FACES, I ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE, I THINK SHE'S ON THE CALL, BUT THE NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE ALAMO, KATE ROGERS, AS WELL AS, UM, HOPE ANDRA, WHO REPRESENTS THE ALAMO TRUST.
SHE'S ON THE CALL AND SHE, AND SHE ALSO SERVES ON THE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE AND ALSO, UH, HECTOR BAIA.
HE IS ON THE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE WITH THE G L O AND HE IS ALSO IN THE MEETING TODAY, AND I THINK JEFF GORDON WILL BE JOINING US.
SO WE HAVE, UM, MANY MEMBERS FROM ALL OF THE ENTITIES AND ALL OF THE PARTIES HERE ON THIS CALL TODAY, I HAVE TO SAY.
UM, WELL, SINCE MARCH 8TH, WE HAVE HAD FOUR ELMO CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETINGS, THREE LISTENING CIRCLES WITH THOSE CITIZENS MEMBERS TO HELP US RECALIBRATE AND HEAR THE CONCERNS FROM THE PAST AND WHAT WE NEEDED IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER.
AND WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS PROJECT COORDINATION MEETINGS WITH MEMBERS OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, THE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE, AND THE DESIGN AND PROJECT TEAM.
PLEASE KNOW THAT YOUR APPOINTEES TO THE ALAMO CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLE.
WE HAVE SUCH A GREAT LEVEL OF EXPERTISE AND INSIGHT AND COMMITMENT FROM THESE MEMBERS.
IT HAS REALLY MADE THIS PROJECT AND THIS PROCESS A LOT, A LOT BETTER ACTUALLY.
NOW, I SHARED THE MEETING MINUTES WITH YOU ALL FROM THESE, THE, THE MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD AND OUR PARTICIPATION WAS HIGH.
I WANNA THANK LORI HOUSTON FOR HER LEADERSHIP THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS AND RAYA ROBERTS FOR HER ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT.
AND MY, UH, STAFF MEMBER KELLY, WHO'S BEEN A PART OF THIS PROCESS AS WELL, KEY TO THE PROCESS IN BRINGING TO US, WAS BRINGING ON A, A FACILITATOR TO HELP US WITH ALL OF THESE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD.
AND WE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS AND TO KEEP US ON TASK AS A, AS A COMMITTEE.
SO I HAVE TO THANK, UH, FRANCISCO GOMA FOR HIS SERVICES THROUGHOUT THIS EFFORT.
WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED A LOT AND WE HAVE RE-ENGAGED THE ALAMO CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE IN A MORE MEANINGFUL WAY.
WE HAVE LISTENED AND HOPEFULLY TODAY IS A TESTAMENT TO THIS.
AND YOU WILL SEE WHAT WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS TRULY A RESET.
TODAY'S PRESENTATION IS A STEP FORWARD, BUT ALL OF YOUR MEMBERS OF THE A C A C, THE ALAMO CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THEY ALL HAVE MORE WORK TO DO AFTER THE COUNCIL ACTION.
NEXT WEEK, WE WANT TO SPEND THE NEXT THREE MONTHS DIGESTING THE INTERPRETIVE PLAN.
THEN WE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE PLAN DESIGN
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AND PROVIDE MORE FEEDBACK TO THE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE PRIOR TO PROCEEDING TO H D R C IN LATE 2021.THROUGH THAT PROCESS, I INTEND TO KEEP ALL OF YOU APPRISED OF WHERE WE ARE GOING AS WELL AND THAT STATUS.
SO I TOO LOOK FORWARD TO OUR DISCUSSION AND THANK THANKS AGAIN TO ALL THE LEADERSHIP WHO HAS BEEN, WHO HAVE BEEN A PART OF THIS AND KEEPING THIS GOING.
AND I'M GOING TO PASS THIS OFF TO LORI, BUT PLEASE KNOW THAT WE WILL ALL BE HERE, UH, READY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU WILL HAVE.
SO, LORI, I'M PASSING IT ON TO YOU.
AND IF I COULD ASK ERIC KRAMER TO PUT UP THE PRESENTATION.
UM, VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY.
UM, WE HAVE SPENT THE PAST MONTH, UM, WORKING ON THE CHARGE THAT COUNCIL HAD SET FOR US TO REVISIT SEVERAL OF THESE STRATEGIES.
SO, AS EVERYONE HAS MENTIONED, THE DENIAL OF THE PERMIT TO RELOCATE THE SENATE HALF JEOPARDIZE SEVERAL COMPONENTS OF THE ALAMO PLAN, MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE TO IMPLEMENT THE AMA PLAN AS APPROVED.
BUT THE CITY, THE G L O AND THE ALAMO TRUST REMAIN COMMITTED TO THIS PLAN.
AND AFTER CONSULTING WITH OUR RESPECTIVE BOARDS, WE'VE ALL DECIDED THAT WE WANT TO AMEND THE LEASE AND OPERATING AGREEMENT AND THE ALAMO PLAN AND MOVE FORWARD.
THE PROJECT PARTNERS HAVE AGREED TO REVISIT SEVERAL COMPONENTS OF THE PLAN.
AND AS CITY MANAGER ERIC WALSH MENTIONED, WE WANTED TO CONTINUE OUR COMMITMENT TO THE VISION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES, REPURPOSE THE HISTORICAL WOOLWORTH CROCKETT BUILDINGS, REVISIT FLEXIBILITY ON THE STREET CLOSURES, AND IMPROVE THE ACCESS TO THE PLAZA.
NOW TO HELP US DO THIS, WE HAVE OUR COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT THAT SETS OUT THE MANAGEMENT STRUCTURE FOR THE ALAMO PLAN.
YOU HAVE THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE THAT INCLUDES MAYOR RON NURNBERG AND COMMISSIONER GEORGE P. BUSH.
YOU ARE THE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE THAT INCLUDES COUNCIL MEMBER REBECCA VIRON AND CITY ATTORNEY ANDY SEGOVIA, OUR ALAMO ENDOWMENT, OR ALAMO TRUST REPRESENTATIVES.
WELCOME WILSON AND HOPE ANDRADE AND OUR GENERAL LAND OFFICE REPRESENTATIVES, HECTOR VA AND JEFF GORDON.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE ALAMO CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHICH IS A 26, UM, MEMBER COMMITTEE APPOINTED BY MAYOR COUNCIL.
AND WE ALSO HAVE FOUR TECHNICAL ADVISORY MEMBERS ADDED TO THAT COMMITTEE FOR A TOTAL OF 30.
IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
THE ROLE OF THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS TO PROVIDE INPUT TO THE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE ON THE ANIMAL PLAN.
SO THEY ARE AN ADVISORY BOARD AND THEY PROVIDE THAT FEEDBACK TO THE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE, AND THEY TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATIONS AS THEY MAKE DECISIONS RELATED TO THE ALAMO PLAN.
WE HAVE A FULLY APPOINTED BOARD WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE VACANCY.
WHAT HAPPENED LATE IN THE GAME? UM, HOWEVER, DURING THIS PROCESS, WE HAD HIGH PARTICIPATION RATES.
SO I WOULD SAY THAT MAYBE TWO OR THREE MEMBERS WERE ABSENT DURING THE NUMEROUS MEETINGS THAT WE HAD.
UM, BUT EVERYONE PARTICIPATED IN THE LISTENING CIRCLES IN THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS AT SOME POINT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
IT WAS A VERY HIGH LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT.
NOW, WE HAD NUMEROUS MEETINGS STARTING WITH MARCH 8TH, WHERE THE MAYOR ADDRESSED THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND DISCUSSED THE CHARGE AND EXPECTATIONS SET BY THE PROJECT PARTNERS AND CITY COUNCIL.
AND THEN MARCH 15TH THROUGH MARCH 19TH, THE TRI CHAIRS HOSTED THREE LISTENING SESSIONS AND THEY MET WITH EVERY CITIZEN'S ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER, AND THEY RECEIVED FEEDBACK FROM THEM REGARDING THEIR PRIORITIES FOR THE PROJECTS, THEIR CONCERNS, AND WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO MOVING FORWARD.
WE HAD A FACILITATED WORKSHOP ON MARCH 24TH, AND WE PRE PRESENTED SEVERAL REVISED DESIGN CONCEPTS FOR THEIR FEEDBACK AND THEY BROKE OUT INTO SMALL GROUPS.
AND THEN ON MARCH 29TH, THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE PRESENTED ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK BASED ON OUR NEW PRESENTATION THAT INCORPORATED THEIR COMMENTS FROM THE WORKSHOP.
AND THEN ON MARCH 31ST, THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, APPROVED SIX STATEMENTS REGARDING THE NEW ASSUMPTIONS FOR THE DESIGN.
MOVING FORWARD, THREE OF THESE MEETINGS WERE PUBLIC AND WE CONTINUE TO ACCEPT PUBLIC FEEDBACK THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
NOW MOVING FORWARD, WE KNOW THAT WE WANT PEOPLE TO REMAIN ENGAGED IN THE CITIZENS' ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
UM, THEN THEY ARE READY TO GO ON TO TASK TWO.
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IS REALLY TO CREATE AND APPROVE THESE DESIGN ASSUMPTIONS SO THE DESIGN TEAM CAN START WORKING ON THE DESIGN AND COME BACK TO THE CITIZEN'S ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE FOR THE DESIGN APPROVAL.AND THEN ULTIMATELY, WE CAN START CONSTRUCTION WHILE THAT DESIGN WORK IS UNDERWAY, WHICH WILL START IN MAY, THE CITIZEN'S ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS GOING TO BE REVIEWING THE INTERPRETIVE PLAN AND GETTING, UM, PRESENTATIONS AND AN OVERVIEW ON THE INTERPRETER PLAN AND THE CONTENT DEVELOPMENT.
WE ARE GOING TO BE FILMING THESE PRESENTATIONS SO THEY'LL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
SO THE PUBLIC CAN ALSO UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THE STORIES BEING TOLD AT THE ALAMO AND WHAT IS THE CONTENT THAT WILL BE TOLD.
WE ALSO WILL BE LOOKING AT THE TRADITIONS AND CEREMONIES IN THE PLAZA AND CREATING AN INVENTORY OF ALL THOSE EVENTS TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT THE EVENT IS AND WHAT IS ITS TIE TO THE SITE.
AND THEN WE WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION BY A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT WILL PRESENT AN ARCHIVAL INVESTIGATION ABOUT THE ARCHEOLOGY OF THE SITE.
AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT NEXT.
BUT TASK THREE IS THE PLAZA DESIGN REVIEW PROCESS.
SO ONCE WE APPROVE THE AMENDED LEASE, THE DESIGN TEAM WILL START DESIGN.
THEY WILL COME BACK IN AUGUST TO THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE WITH THE DESIGN FOR FEEDBACK.
THAT FEEDBACK WE PROVIDED TO THE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE AND ULTIMATELY TO H D R C FOR APPROVAL IN DECEMBER.
AND THAT WILL ALLOW US TO START CONSTRUCTION TO GO ONTO THE NEXT SLIDE.
ONE OF THE ITEMS THE TRI CHAIRS ASKED STAFF TO ADDRESS, BECAUSE IT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP SEVERAL TIMES WITHIN OUR LISTENING SESSIONS, WAS THE ISSUE OF ARCHEOLOGY AND HOW WE NEED TO ENGAGE OUR LOCAL INDIGENOUS GROUPS IN THE ARCHEOLOGY ON THE SITE.
AND SO WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS AND THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBERS, AND WE WILL BE DOING AN ARCHIVAL INVESTIGATION OF THE CITY OWNED PROPERTY ON THE COMPLACENT FOOTPRINT.
AND THAT IS BASICALLY THE MISSION FOOTPRINT.
WE'LL DO A SYNTHESIS OF ALL THE REPORTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE ON THAT SITE, AND THEN WE'LL LOOK FOR GAPS TO SEE WHERE WE NEED TO STUDY FURTHER.
THAT ARCHIVAL INVESTIGATION WILL BE, UM, REVIEWED BY AN ARCHIVAL INVESTIGATION COMMITTEE THAT WILL INCLUDE OUR CITY ARCHEOLOGIST, SEAN MARCEAU, AS WELL AS THREE MEMBERS OF THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, RAMON VASQUEZ, KERRY LATIMORE, AND DR.
THOSE THREE INDIVIDUALS WERE APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR TO REPRESENT THE CATEGORY OF HISTORY AND ARCHEOLOGY.
THEY WILL ALSO HELP US WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF A PLAN OF ACTION IN THE EVENT WE FIND REMAINS ON THE SITE.
THIS WILL ALSO BE, UM, PROVIDED TO AN ARCHEOLOGY ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT WILL INCLUDE THE 16 LOCAL TRIBES THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH IN LOCAL GROUPS ON THE CHRISTA SANTA ROSA AND MILAM PARK SITE WILL INCLUDE THOSE INDIVIDUALS ALONG WITH THE SIX FEDERAL TRIBE REPRESENTATIVES THAT THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE HAS ENGAGED.
WE WILL ENGAGE THEM THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS AND USE THEM TO PROVIDE INSIGHT AND GUIDANCE IN THE EVENT THAT WE FIND A DISCOVERY.
SO FEEL VERY, UM, PROUD OF THE WORK THAT STAFF AND THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE WERE ABLE TO DO OVER THE PAST COUPLE WEEKS TO GET US TO THIS POINT.
I WANNA INTRODUCE JOHN KASMAN WITH P G A V AND ERIC KRAMER WITH REED HILDEBRAND.
UM, THEY WERE BROUGHT ONTO THE PROJECT, UM, IN 2016 TO HELP US WITH THE DESIGN EFFORT, ACTUALLY 2017, TO HELP US WITH THIS DESIGN EFFORT.
AND THEY'VE RETURNED WITH A REDESIGN EFFORT.
SO I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO JOHN FIRST AND THEN HE'LL TURN IT OVER TO ERIC KRAMER.
UH, LITTLE BIT OF AN INTRODUCTION AND A SUMMARY BEFORE WE START DIVING INTO THE CONTENT.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK LORI INTRODUCED BOTH OF US.
WE ARE, UM, HONORED TO BE BACK.
THERE'S A LOT OF FAMILIAR FACES.
WE'VE BEEN IN FRONT OF YOU MANY TIMES BEFORE, UH, HOWEVER, THERE'S SOME NEW ONES AS WELL.
SO IT'S, UH, A PLEASURE TO MEET YOU GUYS AND IT REALLY IS AN HONOR TO BE FOR ERIC AND I BOTH TO, UH, TO BE INVITED BACK, UH, DURING THIS PROJECT RESET AND TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THE THOUGHTS AND THE STRATEGIES THAT WE HAVE GONE THROUGH, UH, BASED ON THESE NEW PARAMETERS THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN.
SO WITH THAT, UH, THE MATERIAL THAT WE ARE GETTING READY TO SHARE WITH YOU IS A GREAT SUMMARY OF THE PRESENTATIONS THAT WE HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH WITH THE C A C AND THE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE THAT LORI JUST WENT THROUGH THE SUMMARY.
SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE IS THAT SAME CONTENT SUMMARIZED A BIT, UH, AND IT'S REALLY DIVIDED UP INTO THREE CHAPTERS.
WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH A CO A PRESENTATION AND A CONVERSATION OF, OF SPATIAL STRATEGIES MEANING,
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UH, SITE DEVELOPMENT AND SITE STRATEGIES.AND THEN WE'RE GONNA SHIFT THE CONVERSATION TO VISITOR EXPERIENCE STRATEGIES.
AND THEN FINALLY, WE'RE GONNA FINISH UP WITH SOME INTERPRETIVE CONTENT THOUGHTS.
AND ALL OF THOSE THREE SEPARATE CHAPTERS IS HOW WE HAVE GONE BACK AND STUDIED THE NEW PARAMETERS.
AND PRIOR TO DOING THAT, WE HAVE A FEW SLIDES HERE AS AN INTRO BECAUSE WE WANTED TO SUMMARIZE HERE ON THE SCREEN, UH, NOT ONLY PARAMETERS THAT WE ARE STILL BASING OUR ASSUMPTIONS ON.
SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE SOME SLIDES OF THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO US TO RETAIN AND TO GO BACK AND TO, TO TEST AGAINST ALMOST AS A LITMUS TEST.
AND THEN YOU'LL ALSO SEE A SUMMARY OF THESE NEW PARAMETERS THAT WE'VE BEEN STUDYING.
SO FIRST, THE VISION OF GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE BEEN VERY CONSCIOUS AND VERY BOLD IN REMINDING THE C A C EVERY TIME WE GATHER WITH THEM THAT THE VISION GUIDING PRINCIPLES HAS BEEN OUR BASIS.
UH, IT'S A DOCUMENT THAT WE STARTED WITH BY THE WAY, BACK IN 2016 AND, AND WE ARE STILL BASING OUR THOUGHTS ON THAT.
UH, AFTER THAT, WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GO BACK AND WE TEST THAT NO MATTER WHAT THE PARAMETERS ARE THAT WE ARE TESTING, WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE RETAINED AND WE ARE FOCUSED ON THE FIVE KEY ELEMENTS FROM THE MASTER PLAN.
SO RE RESTORING THE CHURCH AND LONG BARRACKS, DELINEATING THE HISTORIC FOOTPRINT, RECAPTURING THAT HISTORIC MISSION PLAZA, AND CREATING THAT SENSE OF REVERENCE AND RESPECT THERE.
IN ADDITION TO CREATING A WORLD-CLASS MUSEUM AND VISITOR CENTER AND CREATING THAT SENSE OF ARRIVAL, THAT REALLY IS A SENSE OF CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN NOT ONLY OUR SITE HERE, BUT ALSO THE OTHER PUBLIC SITES AROUND THE CITY AND THE REGION.
SO YOU'LL SEE US TOUCH ON EACH ONE OF THOSE, UH, IN THE THREE CHAPTERS TO COME.
SO FINALLY, AFTER THAT, WE HAVE A LIST OF THINGS THAT WE ARE STUDYING, RIGHT, THE POTENTIAL NEW PARAMETERS, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY MENTIONED HERE IN THE CALL.
UH, WE ARE RETAINING THE CENOTAPH, DO NOT LOWER THE GRADE, RIGHT? PRESERVING PLAZA ACCESS AND RETAINING PARADE AND, AND PHASE STREET CLOSURES.
SO WE TAKE EACH ONE OF THESE AND WE ARE SAYING, IF WE IN FACT TAKE THOSE AND STUDY THOSE AS NEW PARAMETERS, WHAT IS THE TRICKLE EFFECT OR HOW DOES THAT CHANGE OUR THOUGHT OR OUR STRATEGIES IN WHAT WE DID BEFORE? AND WHAT ARE THE INTERESTING FINDINGS AND CONSIDERATIONS THAT HAVE BECAUSE OF THOSE FOUR NEW PARAMETERS? SO THE NEXT SLIDES WE'RE GONNA DIVE INTO, UH, A STUDY OF THOSE THINGS.
AND SO THE FIRST STEP IS TO GET INTO THOSE FOUR AND HOW IT AFFECTS OUR, OUR SPATIAL PARAMETERS AND OUR SPATIAL STUDIES.
AND ERIC'S GONNA TAKE IT, UH, AND, AND GO THROUGH A COUPLE SLIDES.
AND FROM THERE, UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT HE AND I WILL, WILL TRADE SOME CONTENT BACK AND FORTH.
YEAH, SO I'LL START BY TALKING ABOUT THE SPATIAL IMPLICATIONS OF THESE CHANGES.
AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT WHILE WE AS DESIGNERS THINK ABOUT THIS, UH, FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF THE SPACE THAT WE ARE CREATING, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE TODAY IS NOT DESIGN, AS LORI SAID, THERE IS MUCH DESIGN LEFT TO DO, WHAT YOU'LL SEE AS A WAY OF REPRESENTING WHAT WE THINK ARE THE IMPLICATIONS OF THESE CHANGES AND A WAY OF TESTING WHAT THE IMPACT IS.
AND I THINK HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU THAT THE IMPACT IS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO RETAIN THOSE FIVE KEY ELEMENTS, THE VISION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES, WHILE INCLUDING THESE NEW PARAMETERS.
SO THESE ARE, SO THESE ARE THE, THE COMPONENTS, THE SENTENCE HALF BEING REPAIRED AND NOT MOVED, THE MISSION FOOTPRINT BEING DELINEATED BY PAVING THE PLAZA REMAINING ACCESSIBLE TO PEDESTRIANS WITHOUT RAILINGS, THE PARADES AND THE KEY RITUALS BEING ACCOMMODATED.
AND THEN THE STREETS BEING CLOSED IN THE LONG TERM WITH THE ACCESS BEING RETAINED FOR SERVICE EMERGENCY AND POTENTIALLY FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT.
BUT WITH ALAMO, BETWEEN HOUSTON AND CROCKETT BEING CLOSED BY JUNE 1ST TO ALLOW FOR PARTICULAR PROGRAMMING OF THE NORTH PART OF THE PLAZA AND FOR UNDERSTANDING THE IMPLICATIONS OF TRAFFIC, UH, TO THE CHANGES OF TRAFFIC ON THE SITE.
AND I'LL TALK A BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.
BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SPATIAL DEFINITION, I WANT TO JUST SORT OF GIVE YOU A SENSE OF WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT.
WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE AN INCREDIBLY DENSE LAYERS OF HISTORY ON THIS SITE, AND THOSE HISTORY LAYERS COME UP UNTIL THIS VERY DAY, THE 20TH CENTURY, AND THE EVENTS THAT TAKE PLACE THERE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S VERY HARD TO SEE AND UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE IMPLICATIONS OF THOSE LAYERS OF HISTORY.
AND SO THERE'S A PART OF OUR WORK WHICH IS ABOUT QUIETING DOWN THE NOISE, MAKING IT SO THAT YOU KNOW, YOU'VE ARRIVED AT A PLACE WHICH ISN'T JUST ANOTHER PART OF THE CITY, BUT IS A PLACE WHERE INCREDIBLE HISTORY TOOK PLACE.
WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE ALAMO AS A PLACE AND NOT JUST A SINGLE BUILDING.
WELL, IT'S THE DESIGN WORK, IT'S THE CHANGES IN SCALE AND PROPORTION, MATERIAL, QUALITY, LIGHT AND SHADE, THE ARTICULATION OF THRESHOLD,
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THE SENSE OF SCALE.THESE ARE THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE.
AND REALLY IT'S ABOUT MAKING A FRAME, A FRAME SO THAT YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE ARRIVED AT A PLACE OF SIGNIFICANCE, SO OFTEN WE TALK ABOUT HOW DO WE GET THERE? WELL, WE START WITH THE EXISTING CONDITIONS THAT YOU HAVE TODAY, AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S A LOT GOING ON, A LOT OF LAYERS OF CURBS AND, AND STREETS AND PLANTERS.
AND SO THE FIRST QUESTION WE ASK IS, WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU JUST SIMPLIFY THE GROUND PLAN? WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU START TO TAKE AWAY ALL THOSE PLANTERS AND CURBS, THE UPS AND THE DOWNS? WELL, ONE IS YOU GET A MUCH MORE ACCESSIBLE AND PERMEABLE SITE.
IT'S SAFER, IT'S EASIER TO ACCESS, AND WE THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
BUT YOU ALSO PUT ANOTHER FOCUS ON THE GROUND.
IT STARTS TO BECOME QUIET AND IT STARTS TO BECOME LEAD.
THIS IS SUPER IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE SAID IS SO IMPORTANT ABOUT THIS PLACE IS THAT HERE'S WHERE HISTORY HAPPENED, IT HAPPENED IN THIS PLACE.
SO CAN WE START TO MAKE THAT GROUND VISIBLE? AND BY DOING THAT SIMPLIFYING AND QUIETING, YOU START TO ACTUALLY MAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DELINEATE THE FOOTPRINT, WHICH IS ONE OF THOSE KEY CONCEPTS.
THIS IS WHAT, THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, WHICH IS TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHERE THE MISSION WAS, WHERE THE BATTLEFIELD WAS.
WE THINK THAT GROUND PLANE ALSO HAS ANOTHER GREAT OPPORTUNITY, WHICH ISN'T JUST ABOUT FOCUSING IN, IT'S ABOUT REACHING OUT.
IMAGINE A SPECIAL AND UNIQUE PAVING, SOMETHING THAT ISN'T USED ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY THAT STARTS TO IDENTIFY A DISTRICT, AND IT REACHES OUT TO LA SOYA TO BONUM TO THIRD, THIRD TO COMMERCE, SO THAT AS YOU'RE ARRIVING HERE, YOU REALIZE EVEN BEFORE YOU'VE GOTTEN TO THE MISSION ITSELF THAT YOU'VE ARRIVED AT A SPACE WHICH IS UNIQUE AND DIFFERENTIATED.
WE ALSO THINK THAT EVEN JUST THAT SURFACE HAS STORIES THAT IT CAN TELL.
WE'VE BEEN STUDYING THE PATTERNS OF AGRICULTURE AS THEY RELATE TO THE HISTORIC ASAKIA, HOW THE PLATTS WERE DEVELOPED AS DIFFERENT PIECES OF PROPERTY AND FARMLAND, AND HOW THE, THE PLAZA DERO WAS AT THE CENTER OF THAT.
BY STARTING TO SCRIBE THAT, WE THINK WE CAN ACTUALLY USE PATTERNS ON THE GROUND TO REPRESENT THOSE DIFFERENT PATTERNS AND THOSE DIFFERENT AGRICULTURAL HISTORIES.
AND WE THINK THAT'S REALLY AN EXCITING WAY TO BEGIN TO NOT JUST TELL THE STORY IN THE, IN THE FOOTPRINT, BUT TO TELL IT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SITE.
WE THEN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO BREAK DOWN THE SCALE, PARTICULARLY OF THE PLAZA SOUTH OF THE SOUTH GATE, TO USE PLANTING AND PAVING TO CREATE PLACES TO SIT OUTDOOR DINING FOR SOME OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES, AND THEN TO USE PLANTING TO COOL AND CREATE SPACES OF INTIMACY, BUT ALSO TO CREATE OPEN SPACES FOR GATHERING.
THIS ALSO STARTS TO ARTICULATE A SENSE OF THRESHOLD AND ARRIVAL, DIRECTING YOUR ATTENTION LIKE TO THE SOUTH GATE AND TO THE CHURCH ITSELF.
ALL OF THAT SORT OF ARTICULATION OF THE GROUND THEN ALLOWS US TO DO ONE MORE THING, WHICH IS TO FRAME AND TO REALLY SPECIFICALLY RECAPTURE THE SCALE AND THE EXPRESSION OF THE MISSION AND THE BATTLEFIELD.
ORIGINALLY IN THE INTERPRETIVE PLAN, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT LOWERING THE GRADE, AND THAT WAS COMPLICATED.
IT HAD IMPLICATIONS FOR, UM, ACCESSIBILITY.
IT CERTAINLY PRECLUDED HAVING THE PARADES COME THROUGH.
AND THERE WAS CONCERN, OF COURSE, ABOUT DISRUPTION TO, TO ARCHEOLOGY BELOW THE SITE.
WE THINK BY USING THE DIFFERENTIATED PAVING MATERIALS AND ACTUALLY SCRIBING A THRESHOLD THAT WRAPS ENTIRELY AROUND THE SITE, NO MATTER WHETHER YOU'RE COMING FROM HOUSTON STREET OR FROM THE NORTH OR FROM THE SOUTH, YOU PASS ACROSS A TRANSITION, A CHANGE, A THRESHOLD THAT STARTS TO IDENTIFY THAT AGAIN, THAT, THAT CHANGE, THAT SENSE OF ARRIVAL AT THIS UNIQUE AND DISTINCT SPACE.
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THIS COINCIDE WITH THE WORK THAT THE G L O IS DOING TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF MOISTURE MIGRATION WITHIN THE CHURCH AND THE LONG BARRACK THAT MAY BE DUE TO THE, UH, RISING GRADE OF THE, OF THE LAND OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDINGS, WHICH HAS HAPPENED OVER, YOU KNOW, THE A HUNDRED AND SO YEARS.
IF IT IS DETERMINED THROUGH THAT PROCESS, A STUDY THAT WILL GO ON FOR THE NEXT YEAR, THAT REDUCING THE GRADE RIGHT AROUND THE BUILDINGS IS NECESSARY TO PRESERVE THEM.
WE DO NOT THINK THAT IS IN ANY WAY COUNTER TO THIS PLAN.
WE'VE STUDIED IT, WE THINK IT'S QUITE POSSIBLE TO LOWER THOSE GRADES AROUND THE BUILDING AND ACCOMPLISH BOTH THINGS.
BUT WE'RE EXCITED BY, AT THE SCALE OF THE, THE LARGER CONTEXT, HOW THIS, UM, KEEPING THE THE GRADE,
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UH, UP AT STREET LEVEL, UH, ADVANCES A A SET OF OTHER GOALS OF THE MASTER PLAN.THEN THAT IDEA THAT YOU'VE ARRIVED IN THIS QUITE DISTINCT SPACE WITHIN THAT FRAME, IT ENABLES YOU TO START TO MARK ON THE GROUND.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE CREATING A BLANK CANVAS AND THEN DRAWING ON IT WHERE YOU CAN AGAIN, SEE THE OUTLINE OF THE MISSION FOOTPRINT, INTERPRETIVE ELEMENTS FROM THE BATTLEFIELD PERIOD FROM THE BUILDINGS OF THE MISSION CAN START TO BE CREATED IN THREE DIMENSIONS, MARKINGS ON THE GROUND POTENTIALLY, WHERE THERE THE ARCHEOLOGY, UH, STUDY IDENTIFIES THAT THERE WERE BURIALS.
ALL OF THESE THINGS BEGIN TO BECOME VISIBLE.
EVEN 20TH CENTURY COMPONENTS LIKE THE BUILDINGS AND THE CTA CAN BE MARKED BY THIS AS LAYERS THAT COME OVER.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE SEEING THIS AS THIS, THE LAYERS OF HISTORY THAT THE PRINCIPLE OF GUIDING PRINCIPLES, SO IMPORTANTLY DEFINE.
THE OTHER TOOL WE HAVE FROM A SPATIAL DIMENSION IS CANOPY TREES.
WE THINK THAT THERE'S A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY AT THE EDGES OF THE PROJECT AS YOU'RE ARRIVING ON THE STREETS TO USE STRONG LINES OF CANOPY TREES TO CREATE A FEELING OF PROMENADE, A FEELING OF, OF SORT OF CORRIDORS AS ENHANCING THE SENSE OF ARRIVAL.
AND THAT, THAT AS YOU GET CLOSER TO THE MISSION ITSELF, YOU MOVE INTO THE PLAZA, WHICH IS DEFINED BY THOSE GREAT BIG SHADY CANOPY TREES LIKE THE LIVE OAKS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE.
AND THAT FURTHER DEFINES THIS IDEA OF A FRAME SO THAT WHEN YOU ARRIVE AT THE MISSION FOOTPRINT ITSELF, IT IS DIFFERENTIATED.
IT'S LIKE COMING OUT INTO THE OPEN.
WE WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THERE ARE TREES WITHIN THE MISSION FOOTPRINT.
THIS IS DEFINITELY NOT A DESIGN.
THERE ARE LOCATION IS GONNA BE VERY DETERMINED BY WHAT WE UNDERSTAND ABOUT ARCHEOLOGY, WHETHER THERE ARE ANY TREES IN THE PLAZA THAT CAN BE RETAINED OR MOVED.
ALL OF THESE ARE STUDIES WE WILL TAKE ON, BUT WE RECOGNIZE THAT SHADE IS CRITICAL FOR HUMAN COMFORT FOR PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY SPEND TIME EXPERIENCING AND GOING THROUGH THE LIVING HISTORY AND THE INTERPRETATION THAT WILL BE HAPPENING HERE.
SO HOW THAT WORKS IS THE NEXT ROUND OF DESIGN.
SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE ON THE GROUND? WE'VE DONE THESE QUICK VIGNETTES THAT TRY TO DESCRIBE THAT MOMENT OF TRANSITION BETWEEN THE PLAZA TO THE LEFT OF THE SLIDE AND THE HISTORIC MISSION TO THE RIGHT.
IMAGINE A KIND OF PAVING MATERIAL, AGAIN, UNIQUE TO THIS, TO THE DISTRICT THAT REACHES OUT INTO THE PLAZA.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE KIND OF BEAUTIFUL CLAY BRICKS.
IDEALLY WE'RE USING, UH, LOCAL AND AND MATERIALS AND NATIVE PLANTING, PASSING THROUGH THESE KIND OF PLANTED ZONES WITH THOSE SHADY CANOPY TREES OF THE LIVE OAKS.
AND THEN ARRIVING AT A SITE WHERE AGAIN, THE MATERIAL CHANGES.
MAYBE IT'S A, IT'S A STONE, IT'S MUCH MORE OF THE EARTH AGAIN, IDEALLY IT'S A KIND OF INDIGENOUS MATERIAL.
AND THAT SIMPLIFICATION THEN AGAIN, ALLOWS THE DELINEATION OF THE HISTORIC OUTLINES OF THE MISSION TO BE VERY CLEAR AND VERY EXPRESSIVE TO PEOPLE AS THEY ARRIVE.
AGAIN, WE BEGIN TO LOOK AT THESE MATERIALS AND WE THINK THEY'RE REALLY BEAUTIFUL AND EXCITING.
AND AGAIN, MATERIALS THAT ARE UNLIKE THOSE BEING USED ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY, ULTIMATELY THAT TAKE THIS FROM BEING A FOCUS ON A WORLD-CLASS MUSEUM TO A WORLD-CLASS EXPERIENCE SO THAT THE WHOLE SITE IS CONTRIBUTING TO THAT.
SO ERIC JUST STEPPED THROUGH A LOT OF TOPICS RELATIVE TO SPATIAL DEFINITION, AND NOW WE WANTED TO RESET THE CONVERSATION A LITTLE BIT AND TALK ABOUT VISITOR EXPERIENCE.
AND SO WHEN WE FOCUS ON DIGITAL EXPERIENCE, WE TALKED ALREADY ABOUT LEGIBILITY OF THE SITE AND ERIC TOUCHED ON SOME ELEMENTS ON HOW THE SITE DESIGN AND THE SPATIAL DEFINITION CAN, CAN AFFECT, UH, AND CREATE A SENSE OF REVERENCE AND RESPECT.
BUT WE ALSO WANT TO FOCUS A LITTLE BIT ON, ON AND STUDY THE VISITOR EXPERIENCE AND HOW WE CAN CREATE A SENSE OF ARRIVAL AND ORIENTATION.
AND SO WE KNOW, AND WE'VE PRESENTED TO YOU IN THE PAST ABOUT OUR GOAL OF NOT ONLY NOT ONLY MAKING SURE THAT OUR GUESTS AND WHETHER THEY BE LOCAL, WHETHER THEY BE VISITORS, WHETHER THEY BE INTERNATIONAL VISITORS, WE TAKE CARE OF THEIR, THEIR BASIC NEEDS AND A SENSE OF COMFORT.
WE HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO A SENSE OF FLOW, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE NEED TO HAVE A SENSE OF ORIENTATION AND AN UNDERSTANDING BEFORE WE CAN GET THEM TO, TO UH, CREATE AN EMOTIONAL CONNECTION AND EVENTUALLY AND HOPEFULLY BE TRANSFORMED WITH THEIR EXPERIENCE AND THEIR INTERACTIONS HERE AT THE ALAMO.
SO THAT'S THAT, UM, SEGUE AND THAT TRANSITION ALL THE WAY FROM THEIR BASIC NEEDS BEING MET ALL THE WAY TO A TRANSFORMATIVE
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EMOTIONAL CONNECTION HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE WAY THAT WE START TO STUDY THE, UH, ARRIVAL, THE ORIENTATION AND THE INTRODUCTION TO, UH, TO THE GUEST EXPERIENCE.SO WE'RE GONNA WALK THROUGH A LITTLE BIT AND, AND GO THROUGH A SET OF BUILDING SUMMARY SLIDES AND THEN WE'RE GONNA DO IT AGAIN IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED FASHION.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, UH, IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THAT SENSE OF FLOW AND A SENSE OF ARRIVAL AND DEFINING THAT ARRIVAL AT MULTIPLE POINTS ALONG WHAT WE'RE CALLING THIS DISTRICT.
AND IF YOU REMEMBER FROM THE PREVIOUS, UH, INTERPRETIVE PLAN WORK THIS EVEN IN THE SITE DESIGN WORK AND THE SPATIAL DEFINITION THAT ERIC HAS PRESENTED, YOU CAN START TO SEE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT ZONES.
AND SO THE NEXT SLIDE STARTS TO SHOW THAT YOU CAN SEE THIS NOT ONLY DIFFERENT SPATIAL DEFINITION, BUT ALSO ALMOST A DIFFERENT, UM, ORIENTATION AND A DIFFERENT OPERATIONAL, UH, NEED FOR EACH OF THE AREAS, THE PLAZA AREA TO THE SOUTH, DIFFERENT IN FACT FROM THE GARDEN, THE CHURCH IN LONG BARRACK AREA, THE MISSION FOOTPRINT IN BATTLEFIELD, AND OF COURSE THE FUTURE MUSEUM AND VISITOR CENTER.
SO THESE ARE FIVE VERY CLEAR ZONES THAT WE CAN LOOK AT FROM A VISITOR EXPERIENCE AND ALSO FROM A MANAGEMENT STANDPOINT.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU CAN START TO SEE HOW OUR DESIGN CAN START TO CREATE FLEXIBLE OPTIONS OR MANAGEMENT OPTIONS.
AND ONE OF THE KEY PARAMETERS THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO CONSIDER IS, IS CREATING A INCREASED SENSE OF PUBLIC ACCESS AND, UH, THE NO RAILINGS.
AND ALSO WE USE THE TERM POROSITY A LOT.
SO WHAT THAT BLUE ZONE IN THE MIDDLE REPRESENTS IS, IS CAN IN FACT WE LOOK AT TWO DIFFERENT AREAS THAT ARE MANAGED ACCESS, RIGHT? THE MUSEUM ON ONE SIDE AND THE CHURCH EXPERIENCE ON THE OTHER AND EVEN THE GARDEN, BUT ALSO LEAVE THAT CENTER CORE OF THE HISTORIC FOOTPRINT AND LEAVE IT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
AND NOW WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH AN UNDERSTANDING THAT IF WE DESIGN IT FLEXIBLY, WE CAN ALSO PUT IN SOME ISSUE, UH, SOME SITE DESIGN ELEMENTS SO THAT THAT AREA AND THE HISTORIC FOOTPRINT CAN BE CLOSABLE PER EVENTS WITHOUT SACRIFICING THAT AREA BEING OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
SO ERIC, IF YOU TOGGLE BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THOSE TWO, YOU CAN SEE THAT FLEXIBILITY HAPPEN AS YOU TOGGLE.
SO WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THAT IN A LITTLE BIT GREATER DETAIL IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES.
FINALLY, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS CLEAR BEFORE WE DO SO THAT THIS IS DEFINITELY A SHIFT AND THE, WE PULL BACK THIS DIAGRAM FROM THE INTERPRETER PLAN, WHICH OUTLINES OUR PREVIOUS NOW UNDERSTANDING OF A SINGLE SECURE PERIMETER WITH ONE SINGLE ENTRY POINT.
AND WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS A SHIFT IN THAT THINKING AND THIS REVISED APPROACH BY LEAVING THAT CENTER AREA OPEN AND POROUS AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
WHAT WE ARE PRESENTING NOW IS TWO SECURE PERIMETERS, RIGHT? TWO SECURE ENTRY POINTS, ONE TO THE MUSEUM AND THE VISITOR CENTER, A SEPARATE ONE TO THE CHURCH AND THE LONG BARRACK EXPERIENCE.
AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH IS THE NEED FOR ORIENTATION AND VISITOR CENTER BECAUSE WE KNOW WITH THIS REVISED APPROACH, WHAT WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU IS THAT WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THIS REVISED APPROACH WITHOUT SACRIFICE TO SECURITY AND WITHOUT SACRIFICE TO ORIENTATION AND INTERPRETATION SO THAT THE STORIES CAN STILL BE TOLD THE FUNCTION OF THE PLAZA CAN STILL FUNCTION IN THAT, UM, IN THAT WAY, BUT ALSO, UM, SECURITY AND ORIENTATION NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
SO WE'RE GONNA WALK THROUGH THIS REVISED APPROACH AND WE'RE GONNA BUILD IT UP IN SOME SIMILAR SCENARIOS AS WE DID WITH THE SPATIAL DEFINITION, BUT USE THIS SAME DRAWING AND START TO GO THROUGH A VISITOR EXPERIENCE, UH, SCENARIO.
SO AS THE VISION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES IDENTIFY, THE TELLING OF THE STORIES HERE IS ALWAYS WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE SITE'S RELATIONSHIP WITH THE OTHER COMPONENTS OF SAN ANTONIO'S CULTURAL LANDSCAPE.
SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THIS SITE, UM, REACH OUT AND MAKE CONNECTIONS, UH, IN A PHYSICAL AND INTERPRETIVE WAY TO CERTAINLY THE CLOSE THINGS LIKE LA VITA AND HEMISPHERE, BUT CERTAINLY TO SAN FERNANDO CATHEDRAL, TO THE LARGER MISSIONS AND EVEN TO CONTEMPORARY COMPONENTS OF THE CITY'S, UH, CULTURAL LANDSCAPE.
AND SO WE THINK ACTUALLY THAT, AS JOHN SAID, WHEREVER YOU ARRIVE FROM WHEN YOU KIND OF MAKE THAT TRANSITION INTO THE DISTRICT, THERE OUGHT TO BE A POINT OF INFORMATION.
THIS MIGHT BE JUST SIGNAGE, IT MIGHT BE A KIOSK OF SOME KIND, BUT IT WOULD BE A WAY OF IDENTIFYING TWO THINGS.
ONE, HOW TO GET TO THE CULTURAL RESOURCES THAT ARE WITHIN THE DISTRICT WHERE TO GO NEXT, LITERALLY.
BUT ALSO POINTING YOU, YOU KNOW, TO THE NORTH, TO THE SOUTH, TO EAST TO THE WEST, TO THE OTHER GREAT RESOURCES THAT A VISITOR TO THE ALAMO MIGHT WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IN THE CITY.
FROM THERE, EACH OF THOSE, YOU WOULD BE DIRECTED TO A PARTICULAR PLACE.
AND SO IMAGINE YOU'RE COMING FROM THE SOUTH, LIKE FROM THE RIVERWALK
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UP, UH, COMMERCE.ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST IS THAT YOU SUDDENLY ARRIVE LIKE AT THE SOUTH GATE AND YOU SEE THE CHURCH AND YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT WHICH YOU'RE ARRIVING AT.
WE THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY IN THE PLAZA OUTSIDE THE MENGER TO HAVE A KIND OF SUPPLEMENTARY VISITOR ORIENTATION COMPONENT WHERE PEOPLE WOULD BEGIN TO BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE RESOURCES AND WHAT THE HISTORY IN FRONT OF THEM IS.
THAT WOULD SUPPLEMENT ANOTHER ONE, WHICH WOULD GATHER PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING FROM THE WEST AND THE NORTH, WHICH WOULD BE IN THE REPURPOSED BUILDINGS ALONG THE WEST WALL.
THESE TWO THINGS WORK IN CONCERT.
WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE ONE THAT COULD BE IN THE PLAZA TO THE SOUTH.
WE'VE LOOKED AT THESE KIND OF OPEN AIR PAVILIONS.
IN FACT, A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO WE WORKED ON A SIMILAR KIND OF PROJECT FOR THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE HERE IN BOSTON.
THIS IS BASICALLY AN OPEN AIR INTERPRETIVE, UH, SITE WHERE RANGERS STAND THERE AND THEY HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE, THE HISTORY AND THE CONTEXT OF THIS PARK.
WITH SIGNAGE, THERE'S ACTUALLY A MAP, UH, SORT OF INSCRIBED IN THE GRANITE AND THE GROUND AND THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT.
AND WE THINK THERE'S A REALLY INTERESTING OPPORTUNITY TO USE THESE TWO VISITOR ORIENTATION COMPONENTS TO COMPLIMENT EACH OTHER SO THEY WOULDN'T REPLACE EACH OTHER.
IF YOU WERE ARRIVING FROM THE SOUTH, YOU WOULD CERTAINLY BE DIRECTED TO THE RE UH, OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE IN THE MUSEUM AND THE FULL SERVICE VISITOR COMPONENTS, UH, IN THE MUSEUM.
SO THOSE WOULD WORK IN CONCERT.
WE ALSO THINK THAT WHEN YOU ARRIVE AT THOSE, THEN THEY HELP ORIENT YOU TO THE RESOURCES ON SITE.
SO IF YOU ARE GONNA GO TO THE CHURCH AND THE LONG BARRACK, AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE ARE PROBABLY CONTROLLED ACCESS TIMED, YOU KNOW, IN THE SAME WAY THAT IT IS NOW, SO THAT THERE'S A MANAGEMENT OF HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING THROUGH THOSE WOULD BOTH DIRECT YOU TO A SINGLE LOCATION WHERE YOU WOULD ENTER INTO THAT ZONE OF THE CHURCH IN LONGBERG.
NOW EXACTLY WHERE THAT IS, AGAIN, THAT'S FOR DESIGN AND EXACTLY WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT WE THINK THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP PEOPLE FIND THEIR WAY.
THOSE TWO SITES WOULD ALSO GIVE PEOPLE ACCESS TO UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE PLAZA, IN THE OUTDOOR, UM, MUSEUM.
SO FROM THE SOUTH POINTING PEOPLE TO THOSE RESOURCES.
AND THE SAME WITH YOU COMING FROM THE WEST.
THIS WAYFINDING ALLOWS US TO ENABLE THE MAIN COMPONENTS OF THE PLAZA TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC SO THAT A PERSON WHO IS JUST WALKING FROM COMMERCE UP TO THE NORTH OR EAST WEST ON HOUSTON OR CROCKETT CAN MAKE THAT CONNECTION WITHOUT, UH, AND ANY KIND OF HAVING TO GO THROUGH GATES OR RAILINGS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WE ALSO THINK THIS ALLOWS FOR THE, UM, UH, THE PARADES TO CONTINUE TO MOVE THROUGH THE SITE.
CERTAINLY THE INTERPRETATION OF THE NORTH WALL WILL NEED TO BE DEMOUNTABLE SO THAT IT CAN BE TAKEN DOWN TO ENABLE THIS.
BUT WE THINK THAT'S CERTAINLY POSSIBLE AND BECAUSE OF THE REVERENT NATURE OF THE SITE, WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THAT ZONE OF THE MISSION FOOTPRINT ITSELF BE A KIND OF A QUIET ZONE, NOT A PLACE FOR GRANDSTANDS.
CERTAINLY ALLOWING THE CEREMONIAL ZONE OUTSIDE THE CHURCH FOR THE REEF LANG CEREMONY AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THEN WE HAVE THIS INCREDIBLE PLAZA TO THE SOUTH UNDER THE SHADE OF TREES FOR THE CREATION OF THE GRANDSTANDS AND THE OTHER COMPONENTS OF THESE EVENTS.
AS JOHN SAID, THIS ALLOWS DIFFERENTIATION OF USES.
SO THE GARDEN IS GONNA HAVE A KIND OF A REALLY CLEAR SET OF USES.
THE PLAZA ITSELF CAN BE FOR BIG PUBLIC EVENTS, LARGE SCALE GATHERING AND FIRST AMENDMENT DEMONSTRATION, WHICH IS SO IMPORTANT WITHIN THIS PLAZA.
AND THEN THE OUTDOOR MUSEUM CAN REALLY FUNCTION THERE AS THE PLACE THAT PEOPLE CAN GATHER, WHERE THE LIVING HISTORY CAN TAKE PLACE AND WHERE PEOPLE CAN EXPERIENCE THE, ALL OF THE LAYERS OF HISTORY IN A VERY DIFFERENT WAY THAN THEY'RE ABLE TO TODAY.
JUST QUICKLY, WHEN TALKING ABOUT VEHICULAR ACCESS, WE STILL THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THIS TO BE UNDERSTOOD AS A SAFE PEDESTRIAN ZONE.
SO FAMILIES WALKING THROUGH HERE ARE NOT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT CARS AND OF COURSE CREATING A SAFE AND SECURE PERIMETER AROUND THESE RESOURCES.
SO ALAMO STREET STILL WOULD BE CLOSED, UM, NORTH OF COMMERCE, UH, HOUSTON STREET, EAST AND WEST AND CROCKETT STREET THAT ALLOWS THIS TO BECOME A PEDESTRIAN ZONE.
AND EACH OF THOSE PLACES YOU SEE A KIND OF DO NOT ENTER SIGN, THERE WOULD BE BOLLARDS THAT WOULD BE CREATED THERE SO THAT THE CARS DO NOT CAN, THERE'S A SECURE PERIMETER AROUND THESE HISTORIC, UH, RESOURCES.
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RECOGNIZE THAT FOR SERVICE FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES, UM, POTENTIALLY FOR OTHER USES, UM, WE DO HAVE TO HAVE SOME AMOUNT OF, OF, OF PERMEABILITY.AND SO THERE WILL BE OPERABLE BOLLARDS, PARTICULARLY LIKE UP AT THE IN FRONT OF THE EMILY MORGAN ALONG HOUSTON STREET AND THEN, UH, COMING UP FROM THE SOUTH ALONG COMMERCE TURNING LEFT ON CROCKETT THAT WOULD STILL BE ACCESSIBLE FOR EMERGENCIES, UM, FOR LOADING AND UNLOADING AS NEEDED FROM THOSE BUILDINGS.
SO THOSE ARE, UM, THOSE WE THINK ARE STILL ABSOLUTELY INTEGRATED INTO THIS PLAN.
UM, AS LORI SUGGESTED, WE THINK THIS CAN BE PHASED AND WE'RE QUITE EXCITED TO BUY THE OPPORTUNITY THAT AS SOON AS JUNE 1ST, THAT ZONE NORTH OF CROCKETT AND SOUTH OF HOUSTON COULD BE CLOSED TO VEHICULAR TRAFFIC.
NOW THAT WOULD STILL BE OPEN OF COURSE TO PEDESTRIANS, AGAIN, NOT RAILINGS JUST, UH, STOPPING, UH, VEHICLES FROM MOVING THROUGH BECAUSE OF THE, THE INITIAL SORT OF PILOT OF THE 18 POUNDER, UH, INSTALLATION AND THE LA SOYA HOUSE.
THIS ALLOWS THAT SPACE TO BE REALLY, YOU KNOW, INTERCONNECTED WITH THE CHURCH AND LONG BARRACK AND THE SENATE AND ALL OF THIS TO BE PROGRAMMED.
UM, REALLY STARTING TO SET UP THAT KIND OF OUTDOOR MUSEUM EXPERIENCE.
WE THINK THAT ALLOWS YOU ALSO TO NARROW DOWN, UM, ALAMO SOUTH OF CROCKETT, STILL HAVING THAT OPEN WITH THE LEFT TURN ONTO CROCKETT.
UM, BUT THAT ALSO MIGHT OPEN UP SOME SPACE FOR MORE PEDESTRIAN USES, WHETHER IT'S LIKE FOOD TRUCKS OR OUTDOOR DINING OR OTHER KIND OF COMPONENTS WHICH REALLY START TO SHOW THE PROMISE, UM, OF THIS SPACE.
THIS ALSO ALLOWS THE BEGINNING OF TRAFFIC MODELING BECAUSE THAT CLOSURE BETWEEN CROCKETT AND HOUSTON WILL ALLOW THE CITY TO ASSESS THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT ON REGIONAL FLOWS OF TRAFFIC.
SO IT'S KIND OF A PILOTING WHICH ALLOWS US AS A DESIGN TEAM TO MAKE GOOD CHOICES ABOUT WHAT'S NEEDED, UH, MOVING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.
AND WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT WHAT KIND OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT SOUTH PART OF, UM, ALAMO STREET MIGHT GIVE US IN THE SHORT TERM.
SO WE'VE GONE THROUGH, UH, SITE DESIGN, THE VISITOR EXPERIENCE, UH, IN ADDITION TO THE SPATIAL EXPERIENCE, THE VISITOR EXPERIENCE CONVERSATIONS START TO GET INTO AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THESE NEW PARAMETERS, UM, CAN BE, UM, AFFECTED BUT ALSO BE ATTRIBUTED AND ARE UNDERSTANDING OF ORIENTATION AND FLOW AND CREATE A SENSE OF UNDERSTANDING.
WE WANTED TO JUST ADD A COUPLE EXTRA COMMENTS RELATIVE TO THE INTERPRETIVE ELEMENTS AND THE UH, UM, OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US, NOT ONLY IN THE MUSEUM AND THE VISITOR CENTER AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND UPON USING THE ARCHIVES AND THE COLLECTIONS THAT WE HAVE, BOTH THE PHIL COLLINS COLLECTION AND THE ALAMO COLLECTION.
THE GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO TELL A LAYERED STORY AND DEEPER STORIES THAN WE DO NOW WITH THOSE COLLECTIONS.
BUT ALSO IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE USE AND DELINEATION OF THE HISTORIC FOOTPRINT, PROVIDING THE EL THE ABILITY TO EXPERIENCE WHETHER THEY BE SELF-GUIDED OR TOURS OR OTHER SPECIALTY EXPERIENCES, EXPERIENCE HISTORY RIGHT WHERE IT HAPPENED AND TO TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF MULTIPLE LAYERS OF THE ALAMO STORY, RIGHT? A STORY OF GENERATIONS, A STORY OF COMMUNITY, A STORY THAT GOES TO THE MISSION PERIOD, THE BATTLE AND THE POST BATTLE.
WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THESE NEW PARAMETERS AND ENSURE THAT IT DOES NOT AFFECT THE MANNER IN WHICH UH, WE APPROACH THE INTERPRETATION OF THEM.
AND SO THE NEXT SLIDE STARTS TO GET INTO AN OVERVIEW SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE SHOWN IN THE PAST IN THAT THERE ARE MANY OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE MUSEUM, BUT THIS IS JUST A, A SMALL AMOUNT OF THE STORIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US.
AND IF WE LISTED ALL THE STORIES THAT WE GET, NOT ONLY FROM THE VISION GUIDING PRINCIPLES, BUT OUR CONTENT DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING TOGETHER WITH A T I, UH, YOU KNOW, THE SCREEN WOULD BE FILLED WITH THESE THREE COLORS BECAUSE THERE ARE TRULY LAYERS WITHIN THE HISTORIC FOOTPRINT OF MISSION STORIES, BATTLE STORIES, AND POST BATTLE STORIES.
SPECIFICALLY WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT, UH, THE SENATE TAF BEING ONE OF THESE NEW PARAMETERS.
WE TALK ABOUT THE REPAIR OF THE SENATE T BUT WE HAVE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT OUR GOAL OF MAKING SURE THE INTERPRETATION OF THE SENATE TAF STILL IS IMPORTANT TO US, RIGHT? THE STORY OF THE, WHETHER IT BE THE MISSING NAMES, BUT ALSO THE STORY OF THE INTERPRETATION OF IT.
LIKEWISE, THE CROCKETT BLOCK UH, ALSO OFFERS ADDITIONAL LAYERS OF POST BATTLE STORIES THAT, THAT ARE NEW OPPORTUNITIES TO US.
BUT THEY CERTAINLY, UH, AND ANY OF THE BOTH SPATIAL AND VISITOR EXPERIENCE DEFINITIONS
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DO NOT CHANGE THE GOALS OF MAKING SURE THAT THESE MULTIPLE LAYERS OF HISTORY ARE TOLD AND ARE AVAILABLE TO US BOTH IN THREE DIMENSIONAL WAYS AND ALSO, UH, MULTIPLE DIFFERENT TYPES, WHETHER THEY BE IN THE MUSEUM OR OUTSIDE.SO WITH THAT SHORT SUMMARY FROM AN AN INTERPRETIVE STANDPOINT, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE GO BACK AND SUMMARIZE RIGHT, THESE ARE THE ELEMENTS THAT WE ARE PASSIONATE TO RETAIN THOSE FIVE KEY ELEMENTS FROM THE MASTER PLAN, RESTORING THE CHURCH IN LONG BARRACKS, DELINEATING THE HISTORIC FOOTPRINT, RECAPTURING THAT MISSION PLAZA IN THE SENSE OF REVERENCE, CREATING THE WORLD-CLASS MUSEUM AND VISITOR CENTER AND ALSO, UH, THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT SENSE OF ARRIVAL AND CONNECTIVITY WITH THE OTHER, UH, WITH THE OTHER SITES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
WITH THAT, WE ALSO CAN SUMMARIZE ON THE NEXT SLIDE THE PROPOSED CHANGES, RIGHT? WE HAVE STUDIED THE CTA THAT WILL BE REPAIRED BUT NOT MOVED.
WE HAVE STUDIED THE, UH, THE DELINEATION OF THE MISSION FOOTPRINT BY PAVING MATERIAL CHANGES ONLY AND NOT LOWERING THE PLAZA.
WE HAVE ALSO STUDIED THE PLAZA REMAINING ACCESSIBLE TO ALL PEDESTRIANS WITH NO RAILINGS.
UH, REMEMBER THE SLIDE THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW THAT IMPACTS AND HOW THE PARADES AND THE TRADITIONS AND KEY RITUALS SO IT CAN BE ACCOMMODATED AND ALSO COMPLETED THE STUDY ON THE STREETS AND THE CLOSURE AS PLANNED, BUT STILL LEAVING ALLOWANCES FOR SERVICE EMERGENCY VEHICLES.
UM, AND THESE, THAT AREA OF ALAMO STREET BETWEEN HOUSTON AND CROCKETT BEING CLOSED, UH, STARTING JUNE ONE.
SO WITH THAT THERE'S A BIT OF A SUMMARY, UH, ARIEL AND I'D LIKE TO PASS IT BACK TO LORI.
UH, SHE CAN UH, TAKE IT ON FOR THE FUTURE SLIDES.
UM, AS WE MENTIONED EARLY ON, THE ALAMOS CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE PROVIDED FEEDBACK TO THE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE ON THESE PROPOSED CHANGES AND THEY ADOPTED SIX STATEMENTS OF SUPPORT RELATED TO THESE CHANGES.
THE FIRST WAS RELATED TO THE RELOCATION OF THE SENATE.
WHAT THEY'VE SAID IS THE SENATE TAF WILL NOT MOVE THE SENATE TAFT.
WE PRESENTED TO THE ALAMO CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND SUBMITTED TO THE CITY'S OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL PRIOR TO INITIATING ANY REPAIRS.
THIS WAS APPROVED UM, IN A VOTE OF 24 TO THREE.
THEY ALSO APPROVED A STATEMENT RELATED TO EVENTS AND CEREMONIES.
ANIMAL PLAZA WILL ACCOMMODATE EVENTS SUCH AS TRADITIONAL AND PREEXISTING EVENTS, CEREMONIES AND PARADES THAT ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE VISION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND HAVE A CULTURAL OR HISTORICAL TIE TO THE SITE PROVIDED SUCH ACTIVITIES PROVIDE THE REQUIRED REVERENCE TO THE SITE.
THIS WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED WITH A VOTE OF 27 YESES AND ZERO NOSS.
THE THIRD STATEMENT WAS, THE HISTORIC MISSION FOOTPRINT WILL NOT BE LOWER TO ITS LIVING SURFACE TO DELINEATE THE FOOTPRINT, THE ALA PLAZA AND THE HISTORIC MISSION FOOTPRINT WILL BE DELINEATED BY DIFFERENT PAVERS OR OTHER SIMILAR MEANS.
THIS WAS ALSO UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED IN A VOTE OF 27 TO ZERO.
THE FOURTH STATEMENT HAD TO DO WITH ACCESS.
MANAGED ACCESS TO THE SITE WILL BE LIMITED TO THE MUSEUM AND VISITOR CENTER CHURCH AND LONG BARRACK AND THE GARDENS, THE ALMA PLAZA AND THE REMAINDER OF THE HISTORIC MISSION FOOTPRINT WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC WITH UNRESTRICTED ACCESS.
THIS HAD A VOTE OF 27 TO ZERO, ALL IN SUPPORT.
THE FIFTH ONE HAS TO DO WITH THE STREET CLOSURES.
THE STREET CLOSURES WILL BE PHASED.
ALAMO STREET FROM HOUSTON TO CROCKETT WILL BE CLOSED BY JUNE ONE.
TEMPORARY CLOSURES OF ALAMO STREET FROM HOUSTON TO CROCKETT WILL ALSO OCCUR EVERY WEEKEND BETWEEN APRIL 15TH AND MAY 30TH UNTIL THE PERMANENT CLOSURE ON JUNE 1ST, 2021, REMAINING STREETS WOULD BE CLOSED AS REQUIRED BY CONSTRUCTION OF THE PLAZA.
THIS WAS ALSO UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED AND THE FINAL STATEMENT HAD TO DO WITH WHETHER OR NOT THESE FIVE STATEMENTS MET THE KEY CONCEPTS AND WE'RE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE VISION AND KIND PRINCIPLES AND THAT ALSO PASSED IN A VOTE OF 27 TO ZERO FOR THE NEXT SLIDE.
NOW, NOW THAT WE HAVE THE DESIGN ASSUMPTIONS, OUR ATTORNEYS ALONG WITH THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE AND THE ALAMO TRUST, HAVE BEEN WORKING ON WHAT AMENDMENTS NEED TO BE MADE TO THE GROUND LEASE AND OPERATING AGREEMENT.
SO ON THIS SIDE YOU CAN SEE THAT PARCEL A IS WHAT IS IN BLUE, WHICH IS PRIMARILY THE PLAZA IN FRONT OF THE CHURCH IN LONG BARRACK AND THE PASEO DE ALAMO AND PARCEL B ARE THE STREET CLOSURES.
IN GREEN, THE PROPOSED LEASE TERM WILL REMAIN A 50 YEAR LEASE WITH 2 25 YEAR EXTENSIONS.
THE CONTROL OF PARCEL A WILL BE CONTINUED TO BE CONTROLLED BY GENERAL LAND OFFICE.
HOWEVER, DURING CONSTRUCTION OF THE PA OF THE PLAZA, THE CITY WILL CONTROL THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
ALAMO STREET FROM HOUSTON, A CROCKETT WILL BE PERMANENTLY CLOSED
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TO VEHICULAR TRAFFIC BY JUNE 1ST, 2021.AND THEN THE LONG-TERM LEASE OR PARCEL B WILL GO INTO EFFECT WHEN THE DESIGN APPROVAL OF MUSEUM THAT REPURPOSES, THE CROCKETT AND WOOLWORTH BUILDING HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE T H C AND FUNDING FOR THE MUSEUM OF VISITOR CENTER HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED.
NOW THE GROUND LEASE AND OPERATING AGREEMENT WILL ALSO HAVE TO REFLECT ALL THE DESIGN CHANGES THAT ERIC AND JOHN JUST WENT THROUGH HAVING TO DO WITH THE SYNTA STAYING IN PLACE, BUT BEING REPAIRED THE ALMA PLAZA ACCOMMODATING EVENTS, THE FOOTPRINT NOT BEING LOWERED BUT INSTEAD DELINEATED THROUGH PAVERS AND THE ACCESS BEING POROUS.
NOW WE ALSO WANT TO IDENTIFY THOSE EVENTS IN THE LEASE AGREEMENT THAT WE KNOW WILL BE ACCOMMODATED.
UM, IN THIS SPACE I'VE HIGHLIGHTED TWO EVENTS, THE BATTLE OF FLOWERS AND THE FIESTA FLAMM BOW PARADE BECAUSE ARE THE, THESE ARE TWO EVENTS THAT REALLY REQUIRE THE ENTIRE PLAZA TO BE CLOSED BECAUSE THE PARADE HAS TO GO THROUGH THE OTHER EVENTS CAN OCCUR AND STILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
SO WE HAVE SPECIFICALLY LISTED THE TOP ALONG A MEMORIAL SUNRISE SERVICE, ALL THE ARMY AND MILITARY EVENTS THAT THE FIESTA COMMISSION PUTS ON DURING FIESTA AND THEN THE CAVALIER'S INVESTITURE CEREMONY AND THE PILGRIMAGE TO THE ALAMO.
THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER MILITARY EVENTS THAT OCCUR ON THE SITE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, WHETHER IT'S GRADUATIONS, CHANGE OF COMMANDS OR OTHER CEREMONIES.
AND THOSE ALSO WILL CONTINUE TO BE ACCOMMODATED ON THIS SITE.
BUT THERE WILL BE A PROCESS IN THE EVENT THAT WE, WE WANT TO HAVE OTHER EVENTS ON THE SITE AND THIS PROCESS WILL SPEAK TO THOSE EVENTS THAT AREN'T PRODUCED BY THE CITY, THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE OR THE TRUST.
AND SO IF THERE IS AN EVENT OR A PRODUCER THAT WOULD LIKE TO DO AN EVENT ON THE SITE, THE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE WILL REVIEW THAT EVENT IN THAT PROPOSAL, PROVIDE COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND THAT EVENT HAS CULTURAL AND SIGNIFICANT TIES TO THE SITE.
AND ALL PROGRAMMING AND EVENTS MUST ALIGN WITH THE VISION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES TO THE SITE.
NOW DURING CONSTRUCTION, THE CITY WILL FUND THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE PLAZA AND WILL LEAD ALL STAKEHOLDER COMMUNICATIONS.
THE PROJECT MANAGER WILL DEFER TO THE CITY AND ALL DECISIONS RELATED TO THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE PLAZA AND THE CITY WILL FOLLOW ITS OWN ARCHEOLOGY PROTOCOLS FOR CITY OWNED PROPERTY.
SO AS I MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION, WE WILL DO OUR ARCHIVAL INVESTIGATION.
WE'LL HAVE AN ACTION PLAN, WE'LL CREATE AN ARCHEOLOGY ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND EVERYTHING WILL COMPLY WITH THE TEXAS HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE AND THE TEXAS ANTIQUITIES CODE.
THE G L O AND THE ALAMO TRUST WILL FUND AND MANAGE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE VERTICAL INTERPRETIVE ELEMENTS ON THE ALMA PLAZA.
SO THE CITY IS FUNDING THOSE HORIZONTAL ELEMENTS, BUT THE G L O AND THE TRUST WILL FUND THE 18 POUND OR LA SOYA HOUSE, SOUTHGATE PALISADES, THE CASTANEDA HOUSE, THE NORTH WALL, AND OTHER AS IDENTIFIED IN THE INTERPRETIVE PLAN BECAUSE THOSE INTERPRETIVE ELEMENTS ARE KEY TO THE OUTDOOR MUSEUM.
THE G L O WILL CONTINUE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE ELEMENTS OF THE PLAN ON STATE PROPERTY.
SO THAT INCLUDES THE ALAMO CHURCH AND LONG BARRACK AND THE DESIGN OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN EXHIBITION AND COLLECTIONS BUILDING.
NOW THE CITY'S GOING TO CONVEY THE GIFT SHOP VISITOR CENTER THAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE CROCKETT BUILDING TO THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE.
UPON APPROVAL OF THE MUSEUM DESIGN THAT SHOWS THAT THE CROCKETT BUILDING HAS BEEN REPURPOSED, THE G L O WILL FUND THE RELOCATION OF THE VISITOR CENTER IN GIFT SHOP.
NOW THE FUNDING IN OUR CURRENT AGREEMENT, THE CITY HAS COMMITTED $38 MILLION.
THAT IS WHAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO COMMIT.
AND THAT $38 MILLION HAS THREE SOURCES.
2012 GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND PROVIDED, 1 MILLION OR 17 MILLION, THEIR CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION AND THERE'S 21 MILLION IN THE 2017 GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS.
HOWEVER, OUR OTHER PROJECT PARTNERS ARE BRINGING FUNDING TO THE TABLE AS WELL.
AND WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
WE HAVE THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT CURRENTLY HAS $106 MILLION.
THAT FUNDING IS BEING USED FOR THE ACQUISITION OF THE HISTORIC BUILDINGS USED FOR THE CHURCH OF LONG BARRACK RESTORATION AND THE COLLECTIONS BUILDING.
THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S $38 MILLION WILL BE SPENT ON CROCK STREET IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH WILL BE ABOUT $15 MILLION.
AND THE ALMA PLAZA HORIZONTAL IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH WILL BE ABOUT $23 MILLION.
SO THAT'S OUR TOTAL $38 MILLION.
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ENDOWMENT, THEY'LL BE FUNDING THE MUSEUM AND THE VISITOR CENTER AND THE INTERPRETIVE ELEMENTS ON THE ALAMO PLAZA.AND THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THAT DUE DILIGENCE RIGHT NOW.
SO OUR NEXT STEPS LIKE TO CONS, WE'LL BE BRINGING THIS FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL.
IT'LL BE A, AN AMENDED AND RESTATED GROUND LEASE AND OPERATING AGREEMENT.
COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER THAT NEXT THURSDAY ON APRIL 15TH AND THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE WILL CONSIDER IT.
COUNCIL APPROVES AL LA PLAZA'S SCHEDULE IS AS FOLLOWS, IF THE GROUND LEASE AND OPERATING AGREEMENT IS APPROVED, THE DESIGN TEAM WILL INITIATE DESIGN AND THAT'LL START IN MAY AND THEY'LL RETURN TO THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE IN THE FALL FOR REVIEW AND PRO SO THEY CAN PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO THE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE.
AND ULTIMATELY THAT WILL GO TO THE H D R C IN DECEMBER OF 2021 AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO START CONSTRUCTION HOPEFULLY IN EARLY OF 2022.
AND THIS IS FOR THE ALAMO PLAZA AND WE'LL ALSO BE DOING A TRAFFIC STUDY AS ERIC ALLUDED TO EARLIER, SINCE WE ARE DOING THE CLOSURE OF THAT SECTION OF ALAMO FROM HOUSTON TO CROCKETT ON JUNE ONE, THAT'LL ALLOW US TO DO MORE MODELING TO SEE WHAT TYPES OF USES THAT SECTION OF ALAMO STREET FROM CROCKETT TO COMMERCE MUST ACCOMMODATE.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE RECOMMENDING SERVICE VEHICLES, EMERGENCY VEHICLES AND BUSES.
WE WANT TO SEE WHERE THE TRAFFIC GOES.
ONCE THAT SECTION OF ALAMO STREET IS CLOSED, WE WANT TO MODEL IT SO WE CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND IF WE NEED TO MAKE ANY MORE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE STREETS.
RIGHT NOW, AS ERIC SHOWED, WE ARE NOT RECOMMENDING ANY IMPROVEMENTS TO LA SOYA STREET.
WE FEEL THAT IT CAN STAY A ONE-WAY STREET HEADING SOUTH, UM, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THAT SECTION OF ALAMO STREET FROM CROCKETT TO COMMERCE WILL BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE SERVICE VEHICLES, EMERGENCY VEHICLES, AND THE BUSES.
UM, THE CHURCH IN LONG BEAR, THAT PRESERVATION PLAN IS UNDERWAY, AND THAT'S A LONG-TERM PLAN, AND THAT'LL CONTINUE OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.
AND THE MUSEUM OF VISITOR CENTER, UM, THE ALAMO TRUST AND THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE ARE DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND THEIR CONCEPTUAL PLANS ARE UNDERWAY.
SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
UM, MYSELF, COUNCIL MEMBER, REBECCA, ANDY SEGOVIA, ERIC KRAMER, AND JOHN KASMAN, AND OUR SEVERAL OTHER PROJECT PARTNERS WHO ARE ON THE CALL ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, LORI AND, UH, OUR CO-PRESENTERS, UM, FOR THAT WALKTHROUGH.
AND AGAIN, UH, APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK OF, UH, THE MEMBERS OF THE PARTNERS HERE, UM, INCLUDING OUR TRI CHAIRS AT THE A C A C, UH, AND THE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE, UM, AS WELL.
SO, UH, WITH THAT, LET'S GET INTO OUR DISCUSSION, UH, WHICH WILL SET THE STAGE FOR COUNCIL ACTION NEXT WEEK.
UH, LET ME GO FIRST TO COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, CAB H.
I WANNA JUST QUICKLY THANK MA MATTHEW DUN DUNCAN, THE DISTRICT SIX APPOINTEE FOR HIS HARD WORK AND DEDICATION AND, UH, TO ALL THE BOARD REALLY FOR THEIR IMPORTANT WORK.
THE ALAMO IS PART OF THE STORY OF SAN ANTONIO, AND SO IT'S PART OF MY STORY AS A NATIVE SAN ANTONIO.
I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY INPUT I'VE RECEIVED FROM STAKEHOLDERS.
WE'VE RECEIVED SEVERAL LETTERS, UM, RECENTLY, AND I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY'RE SHOWING THEIR SUPPORT FOR THIS PLAN.
I'M ESPECIALLY HAPPY TO HEAR THE PARADE ROUTE WILL CONTINUE.
RESPECTFULLY IN FRONT OF THE ALAMO, I WAS IN THE TASK RAIDER BAND AND MARCHED IN FRONT IN THE BATTLE OF FLOWERS PARADE EVERY YEAR, AND I'M GLAD TO KNOW GENERATIONS OF SAN ANTONIOS AFTER ME WILL CONTINUE THAT TRADITION AND GET TO HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE.
I'M GRATEFUL TO HEAR, UH, LOCAL INDIGENOUS GROUPS HAVE HAD A CHANCE AND WILL CONTINUE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PLAN TOO.
UM, I JUST WANTED, UH, ASK A COUPLE OF OF QUICK QUESTIONS, BUT THE TENANTS THAT ARE IN THE FUTURE MUSEUM BUILDINGS ARE AWARE OF THE PLAN.
THEY'RE, THEY'VE BEEN INCLUDED AND THEY'RE ON BOARD.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, SINCE JANUARY ONE, WE HAVE HAD A STANDING MEETING EVERY TUESDAY AT FOUR O'CLOCK WITH THE TENANTS ON ALMA PLAZA, GIVING THEM AN UPDATE ON THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE AND INFORMING THEM OF THE CONSTRUCTION RELIEF GRANT THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, AS WELL AS THE LIFT FUND GRANT THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL, MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE AWARE OF THOSE AND HAD ACCESS TO THOSE.
UM, BUT THEY'VE BEEN, UM, VERY SUPPORTIVE.
THEY HAVE PROVIDED FEEDBACK, UM, YOU'LL SEE IN SOME OF THOSE LETTERS.
UM, THEY'RE EXTREMELY INTERESTED IN THE TRAFFIC MODELING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT SECTION OF ALAMO STREET FROM CROCKETT TO COMMERCE ACCOMMODATES A VARIETY OF USERS.
AND WE WILL BE WORKING WITH ALL OF THOSE STAKEHOLDERS AS WE DO THAT TRAFFIC MODELING.
UM, IF THIS, UH, PASSES COUNCIL, WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TO, TO, FOR COMPLETION OR FOR EVEN JUST TO START IT.
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UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO START CONSTRUCTION IN EARLY 2022.ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DON'T KNOW, AND OUR DESIGN TEAM WILL COME BACK TO US IN THE FALL WITH IS WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO PHASE THAT PLAN, OR WE DO IT ALL IN ONCE BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MINDFUL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS AND WANNA MINIMIZE THE IMPACT TO THEIR BUSINESSES AS WELL.
AND SO, UM, THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
AND WE, UM, ANTICIPATE THE DESIGN TEAM COMING BACK TO US IN AUGUST, SEPTEMBER TIMEFRAME, WHERE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THAT PHASING.
BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE DONE WITH THE PLAZA WORK, UM, IN A TWO YEAR TIMEFRAME.
AND, UM, WILL YOU PULL UP THE SLIDE WITH THE BREAKDOWN OF THE, THE, I THINK THERE WERE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION? YES.
IF I CAN ASK EMILY TO DO THAT.
AND EMILY, IT'S PROBABLY SLIDE 64.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE 17 MILLION.
UM, CAN YOU EXPAND A LITTLE MORE ABOUT WHERE THAT CAME FROM? YES.
THAT FUNDING, UM, WAS INITIALLY PLANNED FOR A STREETCAR, UM, AND IT WAS REALLOCATED TO THE ALAMO AND I BELIEVE IN THE 2015 BUDGET CYCLE.
AND WE ISSUED THOSE FUNDS IN 2016 AND 2017, BUT IT WAS INITIALLY PLANNED FOR A STREETCAR PROJECT.
AND, AND THAT 17 MILLION, HOW, HOW IS, HOW EXACTLY IS IT ATTACHED TO THE, TO THIS PLAN? SO IN THE 20, IN THE 2015 CAPITAL BUDGET, UM, COUNCIL APPROVE THAT FUNDING TO GO TOWARDS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE AMO PLAN.
SO THEY REDIRECTED THE FUNDING TO THE AMO.
AND I ADD, LORI, IF I COULD ADD TO THAT, COUNCILWOMAN IN THE CURRENT LEASE AGREEMENT, THAT FUNDING SOURCE, UH, AND THE BOND MONEY IS IDENTIFIED AND, UH, BOTH PARTIES, G L O AND THE CITY IDENTIFIED BOTH THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING AND THE FUNDING SOURCES.
AND WE ARE COMMITTED UNDER THE LEASE TO SPEND THAT MONEY ON THE ALAMO PROJECT.
WE'RE COMMITTED UNDER, I'M SORRY.
HOW ARE WE COMMITTED? WE'RE COMMITTED UNDER THE CURRENT LEASE AGREEMENT TO SPEND THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY AND THE SOURCES IDENTIFIED, UH, IN THE CURRENT LEASE AGREEMENT.
WE'RE COMMITTED TO SPEND IT ON THE ALAMO PLAN, CORRECT? CORRECT, YES.
COUNCIL MEMBER CAB HDA, COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE.
MAYOR, FOR THE, FOR THE RECORD, WE'RE GONNA TRADEMARK THAT PHRASE,
IT LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT BE YOUR, YOUR CELL PHONE, SIR, SO MAYBE A STAR SIX, WE GET IT? OR, UM, WE'LL COME BACK.
ALRIGHT, LET, LET'S, LET'S KEEP WORKING ON JOHN'S AUDIO.
LET ME COME BACK TO YOU, JOHN.
UH, WE'RE GONNA GO, LET'S GO OVER TO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ, AND THEN I'LL, AS SOON AS WE GET YOUR AUDIO FIXED, JOHN WILL COME RIGHT BACK TO YOU.
OKAY, COUNCILWOMAN, I'M SORRY.
UM, I, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT AND, UH, I THINK THAT THE, THE TEAM HAS DONE GREAT WORK AND PUTTING THIS BACK TOGETHER, UH, I THINK ALL OF US, UH, WERE CONCERNED THAT MAYBE ALL THE WORK THAT HAD BEEN GOING FORWARD IN THE PAST WOULD BE FOR NAUGHT.
UH, BUT I ALSO WANNA SAY THAT THE PLAN THAT'S BEING MOVED FORWARD NOW IS, IS REALLY EXACTLY HOW I ENVISIONED WE SHOULD BE MOVING FORWARD ON THIS.
SO I'M VERY SATISFIED WITH IT.
UH, THE ONE QUESTION I HAVE, AND WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED IT AT ALL, IS ABOUT THE SENATE HALF.
AND WE KNOW WE HAD HEARD WHEN IT WAS TALKED ABOUT BEING MOVED THAT IT NEEDED WORK, THAT, UH, THERE WERE PROBLEMS WITH IT, INCLUDING IT'S ITS PHYSICAL CONDITION, AND ALSO THAT MAYBE THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE SENATE TAFT WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED TO PUT IT UP.
I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY WORD ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO BE DONE TO THE SENATE TAFT TO RESTORE IT OR TO MAINTAIN IT, AND WHO'S GONNA PAY FOR THAT.
EVERYTHING ELSE I'VE HEARD I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH, BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT, IT SITS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
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WHOLE PROJECT.SO COUNCIL MEMBER, THE RESTORATION OR REPAIR OF THE SENATE, HALF THAT STUDY OR THAT PLAN WILL BE DEVELOPED, UM, IN MAY, JUNE TIMEFRAME.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW WE NEED TO REPAIR IT.
UM, INITIALLY THE PLAN, IF YOU RECALL, WAS TO DISASSEMBLE IT AND THEN MOVE IT TO THE OTHER SITE.
NOW THAT WE'RE KEEPING IT ON SITE, UM, WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW WE NEED TO REPAIR THAT.
AND SO THAT WILL BE DONE OVER THE SUMMER AND BE PRESENTED TO THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THE T H C AND THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION BEFORE ANY WORK BEGINS.
YEAH, THAT'LL BE A MAJOR UNDERTAKING RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL THE OTHER WORK WE'RE DOING AROUND THE PLAZA.
SO THERE REALLY NEEDS TO BE SOME GOOD COORDINATION ON THAT.
AND THEN THE INTERPRET AND THE INTERPRETATION ELEMENTS OF THE SYNTA, THAT IS PART OF OUR INTERPRETATION PLAN.
AND SO WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE NAMES THAT ARE OMITTED ON THE SYNTA.
AND SO THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED AS WE GO THROUGH THAT INTERPRETIVE EFFORT.
AND THAT'LL ALSO BE APPROVED BY H D R C AND THE T H C.
UH, THANK YOU, UM, LORI, AND, AND, UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UM, I JUST, MY QUESTION, I'M TRYING TO REVIEW THE NOTES HERE.
WHAT I DON'T SEE, UM, LORI, IS DO IS THE CITY MAINTAINING OWNERSHIP OF THE PLAZA? THE CITY WILL ALWAYS OWN THE PLAZA, HOWEVER, THE CITY IS LEASING A PORTION OF THE PLAZA RIGHT NOW TO THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE, AND THAT LEASE REMAINS INTACT.
HOWEVER, DURING THE CONSTRUCTION, THE CITY WILL BE CONTROLLING THAT SITE.
AND, AND THAT'S A PORTION THAT WE'VE ALWAYS OWNED AND DID, WE DID NOT GIVE UP IN THE LEASE.
WE ARE LEASING IT THE PLAZA, BUT WE'RE NOT, WE WE'RE NOT CONVEYING ANY OWNERSHIP OF THE PLAZA.
I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.
I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S REALLY MY ONLY QUESTION.
I MEAN, UM, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, I I DON'T LOVE EVERY ELEMENT OF IT, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A COMPROMISE AND WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN.
SO, UM, UH, I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.
AND I, YOU KNOW, WHAT I, I DID WANNA COMMENT, UM, REGARDING, YOU KNOW, THE MUSEUM.
I THINK EVERYBODY'S HEARD ME NOW SAY THAT I DON'T THINK WE NEED A MUSEUM, BUT WE DO NEED A MUSEUM-LIKE EXPERIENCE.
AND I FELT LIKE THAT WAS WHAT ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN ARTICULATED IN HIS COMMENT, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT THERE IS AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF THE, UM, OF THE BASE AND WHAT HAPPENED.
UH, AND IT'S MORE OF SORT OF A LIVING, BREATHING EXPERIENCE, LIKE A MUSEUM EXPERIENCE, WHICH I LIKE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, I I APPRECIATE THAT.
MAYBE YOU CAN ELABORATE ON THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT.
WHOMEVER MADE THAT COMMENT, UM, LIKE WHAT THAT MIGHT MEAN FOR PEOPLE THAT REALLY LIKE MUSEUMS. I THINK, UM, ERIC, CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT, PLEASE? WELL, I'LL JUST SAY, WHAT I SAID WAS THAT, AND I THINK THIS HAS REALLY ALWAYS BEEN OUR GOAL, IS THAT THE, THE ENTIRETY OF THE PLAZA HAS THE QUALITIES OF A MUSEUM THAT YOU ARE UN WHILE YOU ARE THERE, YOU ARE EXPERIENCING HISTORY, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH INTERPRETATION OR THROUGH LIVING HISTORY.
THAT, THAT IT'S LIKE BEING IN A MUSEUM WHEN YOU'RE THERE.
I THINK JOHN PROBABLY CAN CHIME IN ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE INDOOR MUSEUM AND THE OUTDOORS MUSEUM.
I THINK WE HAVE ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY ARE COMPLIMENTARY, RIGHT? THAT THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU CAN TELL IN THE PLAZA WHERE THEY HAPPENED THAT YOU CAN'T TELL IN AN EXHIBIT.
BUT THERE ARE ALSO LOTS OF HISTORIES THAT ARE VERY HARD TO TELL OUTSIDE, AND THAT THERE MAY BE LIKE SUPPLEMENTARY CONTENT THAT IS IN A BUILDING.
I, I'LL, I'LL ADD ON AND REITERATE JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE IT SAID HIS WORD.
COMPLIMENTARY IS A GOOD ONE IN THAT, IN, IN OUR GOAL OF CREATING AN EMOTIONAL CONNECTION AND A TRANSFORMATIVE EXPERIENCE, UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S POWERFUL STORIES THAT ARE, UH, MOST POWERFUL WHEN TOLD IN THE FOOTSTEPS, RIGHT WHERE HISTORY HAPPENED.
AND THEN THERE ARE JUST AS MANY EQUALLY POWERFUL STORIES THAT ARE TOLD USING THE ARCHIVES AND THE COLLECTIONS THAT YOU HAVE IN A, IN A PROTECTED AND TEMPERATURE CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT.
AND USING THE ABILITY TO MAKE AS MANY OF THOSE LAYERED HISTORIES AND THOSE STORIES THAT ALL DESERVE TO BE TOLD, TOLD, TELLING THEM IN THE RIGHT WAY, IN THE MOST APPROPRIATE WAY.
AND THE MOST POWERFUL WAY TO CREATE THAT EMOTIONAL CONNECTION IS OUR GOAL.
AND IT'S QUITE OFTEN, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT HISTORIC SITES AROUND THE COUNTRY, AROUND THE WORLD, REALLY, YOU CAN LOOK AT
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THE POWER OF THOSE STORIES, SOME OF THEM TOLD WITHIN A MUSEUM ENVIRONMENT AND OTHERS TOLD IN A, IN AN OUTDOOR SITE ENVIRONMENT.AND THAT IS THE KIND OF CONDITION THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE, UH, TRYING TO CREATE HERE.
AND, UM, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA.
AND, UM, THANK YOU, UH, COUNCILMAN, I, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WORKING, UM, REALLY HARD.
I APPRECIATE YOU SENDING, UM, ALL OF THE UPDATES, UH, AHEAD OF TIME.
AND, UM, LORI, THANK YOU FOR, UM, FOR ALSO BEING A PART OF THE BRIEFING WITH COUNCILMAN VIAGRA.
I THINK YOU ALL ANSWERED, UM, MOST OF MY QUESTIONS.
I WANTED TO TAKE THE TIME TO, UM, CONGRATULATE KATE ROGERS ON, ON HER NEW APPOINTMENT, AND ALSO THANK ERIN PIERCE AND, UM, SUZANNE PEMBERTON FOR ALL OF THEIR LEADERSHIP.
AND I GOTTA PLUG IN THAT I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT IT'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF WOMEN, UM, GETTING THE JOB DONE.
SO I, I DIDN'T WANNA MISS THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SAY I'M REALLY PROUD OF THAT.
SO CONGRATULATIONS FOR THE WORK SO FAR.
ALSO, UM, ANDY, UH, FOR, FOR YOUR WORK, ANDY SEGOVIA, UM, AND MY APPOINTEE FROM D FOUR IS RUDY RODRIGUEZ.
AND SO I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT, UM, I'M ALWAYS ABLE TO JUST, UH, PICK UP THE PHONE AND, AND CALL HIM AND ASK HIM WHAT'S GOING ON.
JUST GIVE ME SOME OF YOUR INSIGHTS.
SO THANK YOU, RUDY, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
UM, ALSO, I, I MENTIONED THIS, BUT I WANNA MENTION IT PUBLICLY.
WHOEVER DOCUMENTED THE LAST SET OF MINUTES, THE 24 PAGER, THEY DID AWESOME.
SO I FELT LIKE I WAS AT EVERY MEETING, AND SO I MENTIONED IT TO LAUREN TO COUNCILWOMAN, BUT, UM, I, I DO WANNA SAY THAT I FELT LIKE I WAS, UH, A PART OF THIS MEETINGS BY READING THAT.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR THOROUGHNESS, WHOEVER THAT WAS.
UM, AND I'M EXCITED TOO THAT GENERATIONS WILL GET TO CONTINUE PASSING THROUGH AND, AND REALLY THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, FOCUS IN ON, ON OUR KIDS, ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT ARE IN THE MARCHING BANDS LIKE COUNCILMAN H WAS OR I WAS ON THE DANCE TEAM.
AND SO ANY OF THE STUDENTS GROUPS THAT PARTICIPATE, AND I THINK THAT WE REALLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP THEM STOP AND THINK ABOUT WHAT REALLY HAPPENED AND HOW SIGNIFICANT THIS IS IN, IN, IN OUR LIVES AND LIVES OF ALL TEXANS.
SO, UM, I'M REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THE QUIET ZONE.
I'M EXCITED ALSO ABOUT THE PROGRAMMING, AND I WAS WONDERING IF MAYBE YOU COULD SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROGRAMMING TIMELINE.
SO WHO WILL BE IN CHARGE OF PROGRAMMING? I'M VERY, UM, HAPPY WITH WHAT YOU ALL PRESENTED, UM, ON PAGE 46 AND PAGE 52 OF THE PRESENTATION WHERE YOU HAD, UM, UH, THE CIVIL RIGHTS STORY AND YOU HAD, UM, THE LUNCH COUNTER.
AND SO WHO'S GOING TO BE HELPING US DEVELOP THAT PROGRAMMING TO TELL THOSE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT'LL BE DONE THROUGH THE ALAMO TRUST, UM, WHEN WE'RE REFERRING TO THE MISSION FOOTPRINT.
AND I'M GONNA ASK KATE ROGERS IF SHE'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THE PROGRAMMING AND HOW YOU'LL BE DEVELOPING THAT.
WE CAN SEE YOU UNMUTING AND MUTING.
MA'AM, YOU'RE UNMUTED NOW, SO IF YOU COULD GIVE US A TEST.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE UNMUTED, SO YOU'RE MUTED AGAIN.
STRANGEST MOST FINICKY BUTTON, BUT, UM, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
SO, UM, THE, OUR EDUCATION AND LIVING HISTORY DEPARTMENT, UH, WILL WORK ON PROGRAMMING ACROSS THAT, UM, THIS EXPANDED AREA.
AND SO EVERY DAY THEY DO INTERPRETATIONS ON THE SITE THAT INCLUDE, UM, THE PERIOD, THE MISSION PERIOD BEFORE THE BATTLE THAT INCLUDE ELEMENTS OF THE BATTLE.
UM, THEY DO DEMONSTRATIONS, THEY DO PERIOD DEMONSTRATIONS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT LIFE WAS LIKE BACK THEN.
UM, AND THEY'LL BE EXPANDING THEIR PROGRAMMING AND THEY'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT, UH, TO, TO ADD EVEN MORE LIVING HISTORIANS OUT ON THE SITE AND DEMONSTRATIONS EACH AND EVERY DAY.
AND IT'LL EXPAND UPON SOME OF THE INTERPRETIVE PANELS THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE SITE THAT EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED PRIOR TO THE BATTLE, AND THEN OF COURSE, WHAT HAPPENED AFTER.
AND SO I'LL, I'LL JUST TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY.
I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT MEETING I WAS IN BEFORE, BUT I HAD, UM, MENTIONED THAT, UM, WITH AUGMENTED REALITY AND WITH VIRTUAL REALITY, WE HAVE A CHANCE TO REALLY RECREATE, UM, SOME OF WHAT, WHAT REALLY HAPPENED AND GIVE THAT, UM, THREE G EXPERIENCE, IF YOU WILL, TO SOME OF OUR, UH, YOUNGER GENERATIONS.
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UM, I WOULD JUST, JUST JUST LOVE TO HEAR WHENEVER YOU ALL HAVE A, A TIMELINE OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UM, TO SEE HOW WE'RE, UH, INTEGRATING MAYBE SOME OF THIS, YOU KNOW, REALLY COOL TECHNOLOGY THAT'S OUT THERE AND HAVE, UM, STUDENTS ENGAGE WITH THEIR PHONES AND THEY EVEN HAVE LIKE, INTERACTIVE DISCUSSIONS WHEN THEY GET BACK TO THE CLASSROOM, FOR INSTANCE, AFTER FIELD TRIPS, ET CETERA.CONGRATULATIONS, UH, ON COMING THIS FAR.
COUNCIL MEMBER RO GARCIA, COUNCIL MEMBER BARRY.
WELL LOOK AT WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.
UM, I THINK, UH, A LOT OF WHAT HAS BEEN INCORPORATED TODAY IS EXACTLY WHAT WAS SAID BACK IN 2018.
HAD WE LISTENED, UH, WE COULD HAVE BEEN A LOT FURTHER ALONG TODAY THAN WHAT WE ARE, THAN WHAT WE ARE.
BUT, UH, HAVING SAID THAT, I, I STILL DO HAVE A FEW COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS HERE.
UM, I HAVE ALL THE BUSINESSES ALONG THAT AREA APPROVED THIS NEW LAYOUT WITH THE ROAD CLOSURES AND ALL, ALL OF THAT BUSINESS.
HAVE ALL OF 'EM SIGNED OFF ON THAT COUNCIL MEMBER.
THE ROAD CLOSURE WAS APPROVED IN 2018 ALREADY.
NOW, THIS REVISED PLAN HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP, AND ALL THOSE BUSINESSES AROUND THE PLAZA ARE INVITED, WHETHER OR NOT THEY ATTEND.
UM, I, I, I, I DON'T THINK ALL THE MID ATTEND, HOWEVER, THEY HAVE REPRESENTATIVES.
WE DO AN EMAIL COMMUNICATION OUT WEEKLY SHARING INFORMATION, AND THEN WE ARE GONNA BE INCLUDING THE SURROUNDING STAKEHOLDERS AND THE TRAFFIC MODELING AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
SO WHAT YOU SEE TODAY IS WE'RE ONLY PROPOSING TO CLOSE THAT SECTION OF JUNE OF ALAMO FROM HOUSTON TO CROCKETT, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA TRAFFIC MODELING, AND WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH THE SURROUNDING STAKEHOLDERS AS WE DO THAT MODELING, BECAUSE SEVERAL OF THEM HAVE AN INVEST INTEREST IN THAT BECAUSE THEIR BUSINESS IS THERE AS WELL.
AND SO WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THEM, UM, SO THAT IT HASN'T BEEN DECIDED YET WHAT THAT STREET WILL ACCOMMODATE, AND THAT'LL BE DONE THROUGH THAT MODELING EFFORT.
UH, I, I'D STILL LIKE TO SEE A LIST OF THOSE BUSINESSES AND, UH, UH, A CHECK MARK BEHIND, BEHIND THOSE BUSINESSES IF THEY APPROVE.
IF THEY DON'T, THEN WHAT, WHAT DID WE DO TO TRY TO, UM, HELP THEM ACCOMMODATE THOSE, THOSE CLOSURES AND REROUTING OF THE ROADS? UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WHERE WERE WE AT, WHERE WE WERE AT TWO YEARS AGO, UP UNTIL NOW? HOW MUCH OF THAT ORIGINAL CONCEPT, I GUESS WHAT I'M GETTING AT, HOW MUCH MONEY DID WE SPEND ORIGINALLY? AND HOW MUCH MORE ARE WE GONNA SPEND NOW TO DEVELOP THIS DESIGN? BECAUSE WE WERE SO FAR DOWN THE ROAD WITH THE OTHER ONE.
HOW, HOW MUCH MONEY DID WE, I'M JUST GONNA SAY HOW MUCH MONEY DID WE WASTE ON THAT FIRST, FIRST, UH, GO ROUND? WELL, THE CITY FUNDING WAS ALWAYS COMMITTED TO THE PLAZA.
AND SO RIGHT NOW THE FUNDING THAT WE'RE SPENDING IS ON THE CROCKETT AND BOTTOM STREETS.
AND SO THAT FUNDING IS STILL GOING TO GO TOWARDS CROCKETT AND BON.
AND SO BECAUSE OF WHERE WE ARE, AND WE HADN'T STARTED ANY CONSTRUCTION BY THE TIME THE DENIAL HAD HAPPENED, UM, WE, WE DID NOT WASTE ANY TIME.
WE WERE ABLE TO ADJUST AND ONLY DO THOSE TWO STREETS WHILE WE DECIDED HOW WE WERE GOING TO ADDRESS THE PLAZA.
BUT WHO PUT THIS, UH, CONCEPT TOGETHER ORIGINALLY? WASN'T IT THE SAME TEAM TEAM, UH, THAT PUT THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT THAT IS NOW OVER, IT'S ALL GONE AND NOW WE'RE STARTING BASICALLY OVER NOW.
THE, THE ORIGINAL DESIGN WAS FUNDED BY THE TRUST AND THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE.
UM, THE CITY IS PAYING FOR THE DESIGN OF, WE PAID FOR THE DESIGN OF PHASE ONE, AND THAT'S CURRENTLY THE CROCK AND BONUM STREETS THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
AND THEN WE WILL BE PAYING FOR THE DESIGN OF THE PLAZA AS WELL.
BUT THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT PLAN, THOSE WERE, THAT WAS PAID FOR THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE AND THE TRUST AND, AND THE CITY DIDN'T PUT ANY MONEY TOWARDS THAT? NO, THE CITY DID PAY FOR, UM, THE CAR LATIMORE STUDY, WHICH HELPED DO THE, UM, THE RESEARCH ON THE, UM, THE BUILDINGS, THE CROCKETT WOOLWORTH BUILDING.
UM, AND WE PAID FOR A FEW OTHER STUDIES LIKE TRAFFIC STUDIES, BUT WE DID NOT PAY FOR THE DESIGN.
WELL, CAN YOU FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH WE DID PAY FOR THOSE THAT WE'RE NOW, NOW USING AND GET BACK TO ME WITH THAT? UM, YES.
SO AGAIN, THE PLAZA AREA WHERE WE HAVE TO, THE ONLY CERTAIN CERTAIN THINGS ARE BEING APPROVED TO BE CONDUCTED ON THAT PLAZA AREA.
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SPONTANEOUS EVENTS LIKE PROTESTS OR, UH, PRAYER VIGILS OR, OR GOING OUT THERE AS A GROUP TO SING CHRISTMAS CAROLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IS THAT GONNA BE NOW BANNED FROM THAT PLAZA AREA? THERE IS AN AREA ON THE SITE THAT ACCOMMODATES THOSE TYPES OF EVENTS.AND IT'S THE AREA I'M TALKING IN THE PLA I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PLAZA AREA NEXT TO THE SANITA BETWEEN THE SANITA AND THE CHURCH.
YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW ANYBODY CAN GO OUT THERE AND, AND BASICALLY DO WHAT THEY WANT.
UH, IS THAT NOW NOT GONNA BE THE CASE GOING FORWARD? THE PLAZA AREA, UM, WILL BE PLACED FOR CEREMONIES AND INTERPRETATION, SO OKAY.
THE PROTEST, THOSE WILL HAVE TO TAKE PLACE IN THAT FIRST AMENDMENT ZONE.
WHAT ABOUT LIKE CHRISTMAS CAROLS OR GROUPS GOING OUT THERE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AS A GROUP KNOW, AS A GROUP, A LARGE, LET'S SAY 25 PEOPLE OR 30 PEOPLE, OR WILL THEY BE ABLE TO GET TOGETHER AND DO ANYTHING OUT IN THAT PLAZA? OR WILL THEY BE PUSHED OUT INTO THAT FIRST AMENDMENT AREA? UH, COUNCILMAN PERRY, THAT WOULD DEPEND OBVIOUSLY ON THE SITUATION AND WHAT GROUPS OF PEOPLE, HOW MANY PEOPLE THERE ARE, UH, WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
OBVIOUSLY, LIKE IN ANY OTHER CITY PROPERTY OR PUBLIC PROPERTY, WE HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN TRY TO, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS EVERY CONCEIVABLE ISSUE, WE'LL COMMIT TO YOU THAT WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL, UH, HONOR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS, UH, AND WE'LL, AS LORI SAID, WE HAVE A DESIGNATED FIRST AMENDMENT AREA THAT WE WOULD PREFER PEOPLE USE.
BUT, UM, A LOT WILL DEPEND ON THE CONTEXT AND, UH, AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, UH, ON THE CONTEXT OF, OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? WHAT WHAT I, WHAT I'M SAYING IS I DON'T WANT US TO ANSWER STARTING ANSWERING ALL SORTS OF HYPOTHETICALS, BECAUSE AGAIN, IT DEPENDS ON THE DETAILS AND THE CONTEXT, COUNCILMAN.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I'M A LITTLE BIT UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT ONLY HAVING NAMED EVENTS THAT CAN PARTICIPATE OUT IN THAT AREA.
YOU KNOW, WHO'S, WHO'S TO STOP SOMEBODY FROM COMING OUT THERE TO SEND CHRISTMAS TO CAROL'S, A HUNDRED PEOPLE FROM A CHURCH, AND IS THAT THE RIGHT CONTEXT FOR THAT AREA? OR GOING TO, UH, PROTEST A DECISION BY THE CITY COUNCIL FOR SOMETHING? UM, I, I JUST, I, I'M STILL UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THIS, SANDY.
I, I SAID THAT BEFORE, AND I'LL SAY THAT AGAIN.
I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT HAVING AN OPEN AREA LIKE THAT, THAT PROMOTES FLEET
I'M STILL VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
UM, THE, UH, AND CLOSING OFF THESE STREETS AND, AND, UM, UH, REDIRECTING TRAFFIC, ONE OF MY CONCERNS ALSO IS DISABLED ACCESS.
ARE WE GONNA HAVE A DISABLED ACCESS OR A PARKING AREA VERY NEAR THE FRONT OF THE CHAPEL THERE? BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, OLD FOLKS THAT COME TO VISIT THE PLACE THAT CAN'T WALK LONG DISTANCES OR IN WHEELCHAIRS, THAT KIND OF THING THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SPECIAL, THAT ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THEM CLOSE NEARBY THE FRONT OF THE CHAPEL.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE EVERYBODY WANTS TO GO, IS IN FRONT OF THE CHAPEL TO TAKE PICTURES OR WHATEVER.
UH, I'M, I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, NOT PROVIDING THAT AS IS TODAY.
THEY CAN DRIVE ACROSS, TAKE A PICTURE, AND THEN KEEP ON GOING.
UH, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA BE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THAT ANYMORE.
SO, UH, I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN HOW WE'RE GONNA TREAT THAT, UH, DURING THE DESIGN PROCESS.
I UNDERSTAND THIS IS NOT DESIGNED AND THAT'LL COME LATER, BUT I'M STILL CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
UM, THE, UM, TREES AND I, I, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.
I'M STILL CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE HUGE TREES THAT ARE IN THAT PLAZA AREA.
I HOPE THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT RELOCATING THOSE BECAUSE, UH, THAT WILL CERTAINLY, UH, CAUSE ISSUES WITH THE TREES, AND NOT ONLY THE TREES, BUT WHAT'S UNDERNEATH THE GROUND IN THOSE AREAS.
ALSO, AS FAR AS ARCHEOLOGICAL, UH, FINES.
SO, UH, I'M HOPING THAT THOSE LARGE TREES ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO REMAIN WHERE THEY'RE AT TODAY.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S A DESIGN ISSUE.
UM, UH, MEN MENTION THE, UM, UH, RELOCATION OF THE VISITOR AND GIFT SHOP.
WHERE, WHERE ARE THOSE GONNA GO TO? IS THAT NOT DEFINED YET? VISIT, VISIT SAN ANTONIO'S CURRENTLY LOOKING AT OPTIONS.
UM, THEY'VE BEEN ENGAGED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS AND THEY'RE
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VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE PLAN.AND THE, UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, UH, WHERE, WHERE IS THAT GOING? HAS ANYBODY FOUND A PLACE FOR THAT YET? WE WILL, AS SOON AS WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A PROJECT MOVING FORWARD, AND ONCE COUNSEL CONSIDERS THIS ITEM ON THE 15TH, WE'LL BE RE-ENGAGING THOSE STAKEHOLDERS.
AND WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE AND THE TRUST ON THAT ALREADY.
AND YOU MENTIONED THESE LIFT FUNDS AND, UM, UH, LOANS TO THOSE SURROUNDING BUSINESSES.
WHAT, WHAT ARE THOSE LOANS AVAILABLE FOR? UM, THE, WELL, THE CITY HAS THE CONSTRUCTION RELIEF FUND, AND THAT WAS UP TO $25,000 TO HELP WITH SIGNAGE AND WAY FINDING, UM, DURING THE CONSTRUCTION.
AND THEN THE LIFT FUND, THOSE ARE RELATED TO COVID, UM, FOR, FOR LOSSES.
AND SEVERAL OF THE BUSINESSES SURROUNDING THE PLAZA WERE ALSO ELIGIBLE FOR THOSE FUNDS AS WELL.
UM, BUT NOTHING FOR HELPING RELOCATE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, RIGHT? NO.
THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW, SIR.
COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREWS SULLIVAN.
AND, AND THANK YOU LORI AND, UH, ANDY AND, UH, COUNCILWOMAN VANDER.
UM, I JUST WANNA TAKE A FEW MOMENTS TO THANK MS. NETTY HINTON, UM, THE NAACP SAN ANTONIO BRANCH, MR. MARIO SALAS, UM, MR. EDWARDS, WHO IS OUR DISTRICT TO APPOINTEE, UM, AND MS. PI.
MRS. PIERCE, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
UM, THE STORY OF SAVING THE WOOLWORTH BUILDING, MS. NETTY HINTON WOULD SIT OUTSIDE AND JUST ASK FOR YOU TO SIGN THE PETITION TO JUST SAVE THE WOOLWORTH BUILDING, SAVE THE HISTORY, AND ACTUALLY SPEAK ABOUT WHAT THE HISTORY OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO LOOKS LIKE.
AND WHAT I'M HEARING TODAY IS A REPRESENTATION OF ALL OF THAT.
AND I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU.
UM, MS. HINTON IS AN ADVOCATE FOR ALL THINGS, RIGHT? WHEN IT COMES TO JUST PRESERVING THE HISTORY AND TELLING THE FULL STORY.
AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH THE REDESIGN AND, UH, REVAMPING OF THE ALAMO PLAN.
SO TO KNOW THAT THE VOICES OF THE COMMUNITY ARE BEING HEARD BY THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AS WE'RE GOING FORWARD, IS DEFINITELY WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE.
AND SO, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR NOT GIVING UP THE FIGHT, CONTINUING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR VOICE IS HEARD, AND THIS IS HOW IT COMES TOGETHER WHEN ALL OF THE VOICES ARE AT THE TABLE.
IT LOOKS LIKE A, A, A COHESIVE AND INCLUSIVE, UH, MODEL AS WE'RE GOING FORWARD.
AND YES, COUNCILWOMAN ADRIANA ROCHA GARCIA, AND COUNCILWOMAN VEA HDA, I CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT THE ALAMO, WHEN WE BROUGHT IN CHOIRS OUT OF, UH, OUT OF HOUSTON THAT CAME DOWN TO DO, UH, YOUTH CONCERTS WITH MY CHURCH AS A CHILD, WE ALWAYS WENT TO THE ALAMO AND GOT, UH, THE HATS AND THE KEY CHAINS AND EVERYTHING THAT WERE AVAILABLE.
SO I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CONTINUING TO PRESERVE AND SPEAK TO THE TRUTH OF THE HISTORY OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN, COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO.
AND I JUST WANNA SAY I'VE, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A SUPPORTER OF THE ALAMO PROJECT, AND AFTER SIX YEARS OF SITTING ON, ON THIS COMMITTEE, MY HOPE CONTINUES TO BE THAT THIS PROJECT IS SUCCESSFULLY IMPLEMENTED.
I WILL CONTINUE TO STRESS THAT THE CORE VALUES BE HONORED, AND THAT THE COMPLETE STORY OF THE ALAMO BE TOLD IN A WAY WHERE ALL CULTURES ARE ACKNOWLEDGED AND CELEBRATED.
I DO HAVE SOME, SOME QUESTIONS AND, UH, I THINK, UH, COUNCILMAN PERRY STARTED ASKING, UH, SOME OF THIS, IT WAS PRESENTED THAT WE HAVE $38 MILLION AVAILABLE TO THIS, UM, UH, $17 MILLION, UH, PLUS $11 MILLION, UM, SORRY, $21 MILLION FROM, FROM THE BOND.
UM, BUT WE DID AN AUDIT, UH, OR I SHOULD SAY KEVIN BARTELL DID AN AUDIT.
AND IT, IT SHOWS THAT WE HAVE SPENT $5.345 MILLION ON THE PROJECT TO DATE, AND HAVE COMMITTED $8.6 MILLION TO DATE MAKING IT SO THAT WE ONLY HAVE $24,072,458 AND 47 CENTS AVAILABLE TO THIS PROJECT.
HAVE WE PRESENTED THAT TO THE CITY COUNCIL? UM, THAT WAS PRESENTED IN THIS, THAT WAS IN THIS SLIDE.
SO WHAT I SHOWED IS THAT WE HAVE ABOUT 15 MILLION FOR THE CROCKETT AND BOTTOM STREETS, AND THAT MONEY THAT'S BEEN SPENT OR COMMITTED IS MOST OF THAT IS FOR THAT WORK, AND THEN THE REST IS GOING TOWARDS THE PLAZA.
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UH, BUT AGAIN, THE, THE, THE POINT WAS THAT THERE WAS SOME, THERE WAS SOME EXPENDITURES MADE BEFORE, UH, WE GOT TO THIS POINT.AND I, I, I THINK WE, WE JUST WANT TO, WE, WE COULD, MY ASK WOULD BE THAT WE, UH, SHARE THE, THE, UH, THE FINDINGS FROM THE AUDIT, UH, WITH, WITH THE PUBLIC AND WITH EVERYBODY, UH, SO THAT WE'RE VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE'VE SPENT TO DATE AND WHERE WE ARE ON THIS, BECAUSE I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS REGARDING, UH, SOME OF THE EXPENDITURES AND WHERE WE'RE GONNA LAND, UH, IN TERMS OF HOW WE CAN, UH, GET TO PROVIDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA NEED AS WE, UH, HAVE FOUND, UH, IN, IN OUR STUDIES BEFORE.
UM, AGAIN, I WANT TO CONFIRM THAT, UH, THAT UNDER THIS LEASE, UH, AMENDMENT, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS PAYING FOR THE PLAZA IMPROVEMENTS.
YES, WE ARE PAYING FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE PLAZA, AND PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT WE HAVE BOND FUNDING AND CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION.
WE WANNA SPEND THAT ON THE PLAZA.
SO IN THE EVENT A MUSEUM IS NOT CONSTRUCTED, THE CITY HAS SPENT THE FUNDING ON CITY OWNED PROPERTY, AND WE HAVE A COMPLETED PLAZA.
WERE WE PAYING FOR THESE IMPROVEMENTS UNDER THE, THE TERMS OF THE ORIGINAL LEASE? NO, THIS IS A, THIS IS A SHIFT.
INITIALLY, THE PART OF THE FOOTPRINT WAS TO BE PART OF THE MUSEUM CONSTRUCTION.
AND NOW BECAUSE OF THE UNCERTAINTY WITH THE MUSEUM AND THE NEED TO FUNDRAISE AND THE DELAY IN THAT EFFORT, THE CITY IS GONNA BE SPENDING OUR MONEY ON THE PLAZA SO WE CAN GET THAT PROJECT UNDERWAY AND SPEND OUR BOND FUNDING.
AND, AND WHAT DOES CITY OF SAN ANTONIO GET OUT OF THIS AGREEMENT? THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, WE, WE WILL HAVE A COMPLETED PLAZA.
WE HAVE, WE WILL BE ABLE TO, UM, CONTROL THAT CONSTRUCTION, CONTROL THAT STAKEHOLDER INVOLVEMENT, BUT WE HAVE A PLAZA THAT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND IT'S TREATED LIKE A PLAZA, AND THERE'S NO MANAGED ACCESS.
AND SO WHY COULDN'T, ULTIMATELY WE WILL GET A MUSEUM AS WELL.
WHY COULDN'T WE PURSUE THIS PLAN ON OUR OWN, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE PAYING FOR ALL THE MAJORITY OF THE FLATWORK IMPROVEMENTS, WE ARE, UM, WANTING TO CONTINUE WITH A PARTNERSHIP.
AND THAT WAS THE DIRECTION WE RECEIVED FROM THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL TO CONTINUE WITH THAT PARTNERSHIP AND THAT PARTNERSHIP COMMITS ALL THE PARTIES TO THOSE VISION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
UM, AND THAT'LL BE SOLIDIFIED IN THE LEASE AGREEMENT MOVING FORWARD.
IS, IS THERE AN ADDITIONAL BURDEN THAT, THAT THE STATE IS, IS TAKING ON AS A RESULT OF THIS AGREEMENT? I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION THAT, UM, THE STATE, I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING ON AN ADDITIONAL BURDEN, UM, FROM THE PRIOR LEASE.
IS THERE AN BURDEN THAT THE STATE HAS TAKEN ON AS A RESULT OF THIS NEW AGREEMENT? UH, WELL, AS LAURIE STATED, COUNCILMAN, ONE OF 'EM IS THE OPEN, UH, UH, OPEN PLAZA THAT WASN'T PART OF THE, UH, ORIGINAL LEASE THAT WAS GONNA BE MUCH, VERY MUCH CONTROLLED ACCESS.
AND THAT, I THINK THAT'S A KEY COMPROMISE IN THE TERM OF THE G L O FINANCIAL BURDEN.
WE ARE NOT TAKING ON AN ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL BURDEN.
WE ARE COMMITTED TO SPENDING $38 MILLION, AND THAT REMAINS OUR COMMITMENT.
WELL, UM, AGAIN, WE'RE, BUT WE'RE SPENDING MONEY ON AN AREA THAT WE WEREN'T ORIGINALLY GONNA SPEND MONEY ON.
UM, AND I JUST ASKED IF, IF THE STATE IS TAKING ON ANY ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL BURDEN AS A, AS, AS A RESULT OF THIS AGREEMENT, THE STATE IS SEEKING ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT, AND THEY'LL BE DOING THAT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.
AND THEN THE ALAMO TRUST WILL BE FUNDRAISING AS WELL.
UM, WHAT IS THE NEED TO CLOSE THE STREET AS EARLY AS JUNE 1ST AND CONVEY TO THE STATE? WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO, UM, FIRST ALLOW FOR THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE TO DO SOME PROGRAMMING.
THEY HAVE THE 18 POUNDER EXHIBIT THAT WILL BE OPENING UP IN MID-APRIL BY CLOSING THAT SECTION OF THE STREET, ALLOWS 'EM TO TEST OUT SOME OF THEIR PROGRAMMING AND ACTIVATION CONCEPTS.
AND JUST IN TIME FOR SUMMER, HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WILL BE COMING TO SAN ANTONIO.
AND THEN ALSO WE WANNA BE ABLE TO DO SOME TRAFFIC MODELING.
AND SO BY CLOSING THAT STREET, WE CAN SEE WHERE TRAFFIC GOES, AND THEN DO THAT TRAFFIC MODELING TO SEE HOW WE NEED TO TREAT THAT REMAINING PORTION OF ALAMO STREET SOUTH OF CROCKETT AND TELL IT, IT, UH, IT'S NOT SCHEDULED TO BE CONVEYED UNTIL THEY REACH THOSE TWO ADDITIONAL MILESTONES WHEN IT, UH, THE, UH, THE FUNDING FOR THE MUSEUM.
UM, SO THAT IS SEPARATE AND APART FROM THAT JUNE 1ST.
SO WHAT, AND WHAT ARE THE KICKOUT PROVISIONS FOR, FOR, TO PROTECT CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IF THEY DON'T REACH THAT? WHAT, HOW, HOW, HOW IS IT, HOW IS IT STRUCTURED IF THEY DON'T BUILD A MUSEUM, COUNCILMAN
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THEN THAT, THAT, THAT THAT PART OF THE PLAZA DOESN'T BECOME PART OF THE LEASEHOLD, UM, BY, WHEN THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO TIME THERE, THERE'S NO TIME, UM, UH, BENCHMARK.IT'S, UH, IT'S REALLY ONE WHERE THE LEASE HOLE ITSELF WILL NOT NOT OCCUR UNTIL THERE'S, UH, AS, AS WE, AS WE POINTED OUT, UNTIL THERE'S A DESIGN, UH, FOR THE MUSEUM AND COMMITTED FUNDING.
SO IT, IT, IT DOESN'T BECOME PART OF THE LEASEHOLD UNTIL THOSE THINGS WOULD HAPPEN.
WELL, UM, AGAIN, UM, I THINK THE, THE, THE PLANNING IN REGARDS TO THE FUNDING, UM, IS, IS, IS REALLY, I THINK, UH, GOT A LOT MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS.
UM, AND I'M, I'M REALLY, UM, I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT, THAT, THAT THERE'S JUST NO PEN PENALTY FOR NON-PERFORMANCE.
AND, UH, THIS, THIS SOUNDS INCREDIBLY OPEN-ENDED ON SUCH A QUICK TURNAROUND.
UM, WELL, THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I, UH, I HAVE A LOT OF THANK YOU BEFORE I GO INTO MY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
UH, COUNCILMAN GERRAN, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE JOB THAT YOU HAVE DONE.
UH, IT'S CLEAR THAT, UH, A BIG
I AM, UH, REALLY, REALLY IMPRESSED WITH, WITH YOUR WORK, UH, INTEGRATING THE COMMENTS OF THE CITIZENS' ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
UH, I I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
I HOPE OUR OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, UH, GET TO EXPERIENCE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAVE MANAGED TO DO WITH THEM.
UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
AND THANK YOU FOR, UH, ENSURING THAT WE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, WERE, WERE BRIEFED AND INVOLVED.
UH, I, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, AND I, ALTHOUGH MY BRIEFING WAS VERY SHORT
UH, AND, UH, I ALSO WANT TO THANK, UH, THE OTHER COUNCILMAN COUNCIL VINEO, WHO WORKED ON THIS FOR SO MANY YEARS, UH, WITH SUCH PASSION AND SUCH DEDICATION.
AND I KNOW YOU HAD SOME, UH, YEAH, SOME, SOME GREAT IDEAS.
AND, AND WE WOULDN'T BE HERE ALSO IF, IF YOU HAD NOT PUT IN, UH, THE WORK THAT YOU DID.
AND, UM, I WANT TO, UH, TELL THE, THE ARCHITECTS THAT ARE ON FROM REED HILDEBRAND, I LOVE THE PRESENTATION.
I REALLY FELT LIKE THIS COULD BE A WORLD CLASS.
LIKE IT'S VERY MUCH WITHIN OUR REACH FOR THIS TO BE A WORLD CLASS OUTDOOR PROMENADE, UH, FACILITY THAT YOU MIGHT SEE IN ONLY A HANDFUL OF CITIES IN THE WORLD.
UH, I'M REALLY, REALLY EXCITED, UH, ABOUT THE PRESENTATION YOU GAVE.
UM, SO EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT JOB.
UM, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DESIGN.
HOW CLOSE CAN PEOPLE ACTUALLY GET INTO THE, THE CHURCH? WHERE WILL THEY BE ENTERING IT? WELL, I DON'T THINK WE KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
AND JOHN, IF YOU WANT TO CHIME IN, WE, THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS IN THE LAST PHASES, HAD LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT STRATEGIES FOR MANAGING KIND OF THE CAREFUL FLOW OF PEOPLE.
UM, AND I THINK THAT IS A DESIGN, A DESIGN DISCUSSION THAT HAS TO BE TAKEN UP IN THE NEXT PHASE.
WE KNOW THAT, UH, ERIC HAD MENTIONED TIME TICKETING IS A, AS A STRATEGY THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF THE SHOULDER TIMES TO MAKE SURE WE CAN SPREAD OUT THE VISITORS AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
BUT ALSO, ANOTHER KEY STRATEGY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER AREA WE CHOOSE, IF THERE ARE GOING TO BE PEOPLE WAITING IN LINE, THAT THEY'RE WAITING IN LINE TO THE SIDE OF THE CHURCH, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE PROTECT NOT ONLY FROM A REVERENCE STANDPOINT, BUT ALSO THE PHOTO OPS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HAPPENS IN THAT PURE SENSIBILITY OF BEING ABLE TO VIEW THE FACADE OF THE CHURCH, UH, IN ITS GLORY WITHOUT A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE GATHERING IN FRONT OF IT, UH, AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY.
SO THE LOCATION OF THE, OF THE, IF THERE IS GOING TO BE A WAIT, THE LOCATION OF THAT IS CRITICAL, BUT ALSO TO MAKING SURE THAT THAT WAIT TIME HAS AN EXPERIENTIAL, UH, COMPONENT TO IT.
AND THERE'S INCREASED LEARNING INTERPRETATION DURING ANY OF THE WAITING TIMES THAT WE HAVE.
UH, SO WE ARE LOOKING AT A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS, WHETHER WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT, UH, WITHIN THE VENTO AREA, WITHIN THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CHURCH.
WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OPTIONS TO CONSIDER STILL AS WE GO THROUGH DESIGN.
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OKAY.AND CLEARLY, YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN A LOT OF THESE PLACES AROUND THE WORLD.
UH, THE MARKERS YOU'RE SUGGESTING HAVE, OF COURSE, THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE HIRED, THE MARKERS, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SUGGESTING REMIND ME OF, UM, THE FREEDOM TRAIL, UH, IN, IN BOSTON.
AND I THINK THAT MY FIRST CONVERSATION WITH LORI ABOUT THE, ABOUT HOW IT WOULD BE DELINEATED WAS PRECISELY THAT.
I WAS LIKE, OH, LIKE THE FREEDOM TRAIL IN BOSTON.
BUT THEN WE WENT WITH THE WALLS AND ANYWAY, WE'RE BACK HERE AGAIN.
AND I, I AM REALLY GLAD THAT, THAT WE'RE HERE.
THAT WAS A REALLY IMPORTANT, UH, TO, TO ME, UH, THE FREE ACCESS TO, TO THE PLAZA.
UM, ANOTHER, ANOTHER QUESTION.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE FIRST AMENDMENT AREA WHERE, UH, PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, SPEAK THEIR MIND AND PROTEST.
WAS THERE ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE G L O ABOUT, UH, SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS WITHIN THE ALAMO PLAZA? I'LL, OKAY, WHILE YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THAT.
I'M SORRY, I WAS, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA, THE ANSWER'S NO, COUNCILWOMAN.
I'M GONNA TELL YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT HAPPENS, UH, IT CAN BE REALLY TERRIFYING FOR, UH, SOME PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, UH, INCLUDING VISITORS WHO MAY WANT TO SEE THE ALAMO IF SOMETHING IS GOING ON, UH, THAT FOLKS WANT TO DEMONSTRATE ABOUT, BUT THEY ALSO WANNA DEMONSTRATE WITH, UH, WITH THEIR WEAPONS.
UH, I JUST, I JUST WONDERED IF THAT HAD BEEN, UH, A CONVERSATION.
I, I THINK WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT THAT THAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY, UH, PROBABLY, I'M NOT GONNA SAY WHETHER IT'S PROTECTED OR NOT, BUT, BUT THAT, THAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY MAY AFFECT HOW WELCOMING, UH, THE LOCATION IS.
SO COUNCIL MEMBER, THIS IS COUNCIL MEMBER VRAN, SO ARE YOU THEN SUGGESTING THAT WE REALLY DO, UM, WE MAKE SURE AND MAKE IT, UH, CLEAR THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT IT WOULD ALSO BE A PART OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT ZONE AS WELL? OR, I, I'M, I MEAN, THIS IS HIGHLY, HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL.
I TOTALLY, UH, UNDERSTAND, I'M GLAD I'M NOT AT THE TABLE AND THAT YOU GUYS ARE THE ONES FIGURING THIS OUT.
BUT I JUST WANNA KNOW THAT YOU HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE G L O THAT THE COUNT, AT LEAST ONE COUNCIL MEMBER HAS ASKED, WHAT IS THE POSITION OF THE G L O ON THE SECOND AMENDMENT DEMONSTRATIONS IN THE ALAMO PLAZA? UH, MY CONCERN IS THAT IT WOULD BE A COUNTER TO, UH, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AT, AT THE PLAZA.
UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT LINES UP WITH THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, PLEASE EDUCATE ME AFTER YOU'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION.
YOU KNOW, IS THE FIRST AMENDMENT AREA ALSO A SECOND, UH, AMENDMENT AREA, UM, AS WELL? I, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, UM, BUT I AM, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I WAS AS FEARFUL AS MANY OTHER PEOPLE WERE WHEN WE'VE HAD THOSE, THOSE EVENTS THERE.
SO, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCIL
UM, AND A COUPLE OF OF QUESTIONS ON THE, ON THE PRESENTATION ABOUT WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR, FOR WHAT.
I'M LOOKING AT SLIDES, UH, 62 AND 63 AND, UH, WHEN YOU, IS ALAMO TRUST THE SAME AS THE ALAMO ENDOWMENT? I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION FOR LAURIE.
YES, IT'S, AND WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT ON THE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT.
UH, SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ASKED THEM DETAILED QUESTIONS OF ABOUT THE LEASE AGREEMENT.
UH, I, I HAVE SOME OF THE SAME QUESTIONS.
WHEN WOULD WE BE ABLE TO SEE A COPY OF THE REDLINED VERSION? WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'LL SAY, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A COPY OF THE REDLINE VERSION, UH, PROBABLY THIS WEEKEND.
SO I HAVE TIME TO, UH, TO REVIEW IT IN ADVANCE OF OUR VOTE.
AND SO THAT I HAVE TIME TO ANSWER ANY, ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE OF THE VOTE ON THURSDAY.
UM, AND, UH, LASTLY, I, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE, SORRY.
IS THAT, UH, WAS THAT PART OF THE AUDIT PLAN? IS THAT POSTED ONLINE OR IS IT COMPLETE? CAN SOMEONE FILL ME IN? COUNCIL MEMBER, AN AUDIT WAS REQUESTED AND THAT AUDIT IS UNDERWAY.
STAFF HAS NOT BEEN BRIEFED ON THAT AUDIT.
AND SO, UM, BUT ONCE IT'S AVAILABLE, IT WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE.
SO OUR AUDITOR IS NOT ONLINE FOR, FOR THIS MEETING.
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I, I THINK WE'RE IN A PECULIAR POSITION IF WE'RE VOTING ON THIS, UH, LEASE AGREEMENT WITHOUT, UH, ANY FINAL REPORT FROM AUDIT OR ANY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, COMING FORWARD.SO I'D, UM, I'LL SPEAK WITH, UH, KEVIN AND SEE IF I CAN GET A, A BRIEFING ON, ON THAT AS WELL.
I FEEL LIKE I, I COULD MAKE A, A MORE INFORMED DECISION IF I HAD THAT TOOL, UH, AVAILABLE TO ME.
UM, AND THEN LASTLY, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY SOMETHING, ANDY.
UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SERVING ON THE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE AS WELL.
I THINK THAT MAKES A, A LOT OF SENSE.
UH, NO OFFENSE ERIC
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
BUT I, I DO WANNA CLARIFY THAT WHEN YOU SAY WE'VE COMMITTED THE, YOU KNOW, X AMOUNT OF FUNDING, UM, FROM THESE PARTICULAR SOURCES, WE'VE COMMITTED THAT IN THE LEASE AGREEMENT, AND THAT IS THE LEASE, THE SAME LEASE AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE MODIFYING, RIGHT? SO IT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION THAT WE CONTINUE THAT COMMITMENT, BUT IT'S NOT, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON BASICALLY.
IT, IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A, THAT PART'S A DONE DEAL THAT STILL REQUIRES A COUNCIL VOTE.
COUNCILMAN A COUPLE OF POINTS.
UH, THAT, THAT YOU'VE RAISED IT, I WOULD LIKE TO CONFIRM YES.
IT, IT IT'S IN THE LEASE THAT WE ARE AMENDING.
SO IF, IF, IF THE POINT IS THAT, IF THAT'S AN ITEM THAT THEORETICALLY, CONCEPTUALLY COULD HAVE BEEN AMENDED AS WELL.
'CAUSE WE ARE AMENDING THE LEASE.
I MEAN, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT, THAT, THAT COULD BE AMENDED.
WE WERE TRYING TO LIMIT, OBVIOUSLY, THE AMENDMENTS TO THOSE THINGS THAT, UH, NEEDED TO BE AMENDMENT TO FIT WITH THE REVISED PLAN.
UH, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR THE G L O, BUT IT'S, UH, VERY UNLIKELY THAT, AND FRANKLY, IT WOULD BE UNLIKELY WE WOULD AGREE TO THAT AS WELL, UH, TO COMMIT TO A REDUCTION IN THE FUNDING THAT'S ALREADY STATED IN THE LEASE.
THAT'S JUST WHEN I WANTED TO, TO CLARIFY AND, AND YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT
THOSE ARE MY, UH, I GUESS THE THREE OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS IS THE AUDIT, THE, UM, THE SECOND AMENDMENT QUESTION.
OH, GOD, I THINK I HAD, UH, ONE MORE, UM, RED, RED LINE, RED LINE COPY, RED LINE VERSION.
AND, AND AGAIN, I AM SO TREMENDOUSLY IMPRESSED WITH THE DESIGN THAT'S COMING FORWARD AND REALLY EXCITED TO BE A PART OF A CITY THAT WILL HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN ITS MIDST.
AND, AND, UH, IF I MAY, MAYOR, CAN I, UH, CLARIFY, UH, ALSO SOMETHING THAT, UH, YEAH, GO AHEAD.
THAT THE COUNCILWOMAN RAISED WITH RESPECT TO THE SECOND AMENDMENT COUNCILWOMAN.
I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT, UH, THE, THE, UH, SOME OF THE, UM, SOME OF WHAT WE SAW THERE IN THE ALAMO PLAZA, UM, LAST YEAR WAS VERY UNSETTLING AND DISCONCERTING.
UH, AND, UH, WE ALL TALK TO THE G L O ABOUT IT, BUT AS YOU MIGHT EXPECT, UH, BOTH THE G L O AND US CANNOT CHANGE THE SECOND AMENDMENT, UH, AND HOW THE SUPREME COURT HAS INTERPRETED THAT, AND FRANKLY, HOW THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS INTERPRETED THAT.
SO, UH, I CAN, UH, UH, UNEQUIVOCALLY SAY THAT ANY ATTEMPT TO TRY TO LIMIT SECOND AMENDMENT, UM, RIGHTS TO ONLY A CERTAIN AREA, UH, WILL NOT PASS, DEFINITELY WILL NOT PASS LEGAL MUSTER, BUT WE WILL DISCUSS THAT WITH THE G L O.
THANK YOU, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL, COUNCIL MEMBER PAL.
AND, AND I, I GUESS I'LL PICK IT UP THERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M A, I'M A GUN OWNER AND I KNOW THAT, UH, THERE'S TWO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ON, UM, WHO ARE ON SCREEN RIGHT NOW WHO, UH, CARRY ALMOST EVERY DAY THE, THE WAY I DO.
UM, WE, UM, UM, I I, I DON'T THINK THAT, UM, E EVEN IF WE WANTED TO, UH, WHICH I DON'T THINK WE DO, UH, LIMIT THE ABILITY OF PEOPLE TO CARRY A GUN, YOU KNOW, DOWNTOWN, UM, THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO GET, YOU KNOW, VERY FAR WITH IT.
UM, I'LL, I'LL OPPOSE ANY EFFORT TO TRY TO LIMIT PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO CARRY A GUN NEAR THE ALAMO.
UM, THAT'S, UM, THAT'S A BEAR.
I DON'T THINK THAT ANY OF US, UM, INTENDED TO POKE TODAY.
UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE DESIGN OF THE ALAMO AND WHAT THE PLAN IS GOING FORWARD AND, UM, UH, BUT YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S GONNA BE A FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT, I WOULD ARGUE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEREVER THERE IS A FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT, THERE'S A SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHT, UH, YOU KNOW, AS WELL THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE, UH, PROTECTED AND, AND HONORED.
UH, WITH THAT SAID, UH, I, I, LORI, YOU AND I HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION YESTERDAY WITH, UH, WITH COUNCILMAN VERAN.
I, I WAS IMPRESSED WITH THE PRESENTATION.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE HARD WORK YOU GUYS ARE PUTTING INTO IT.
UM, I WILL, UM, REITERATE WHAT I TOLD YOU GUYS, WHICH IS ONE, IT SEEMS LIKE A VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT PLAN.
UM, AND I, I HAVE, UH, NOTHING TO ADD TO IT OTHER THAN TO REMIND YOU'ALL THAT WE WOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION AT ALL IF IT WEREN'T FOR CANARY ISLANDERS AND FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, THE,
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UM, THE SPANISH FAMILIES THAT CAME HERE AND BUILT THAT MISSION.UM, AND I THINK THAT AS WE'RE DISCUSSING THE KINDS OF MATERIALS TO BE USED FOR THOSE STONE PAVERS, UM, THROUGHOUT THE, UH, THROUGHOUT THE PLAZA, THAT THERE IS ROOM THERE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH OUR SISTER CITIES IN, UH, THE CANARY ISLANDS ABOUT, UM, SOURCING SOME OF THE STONE THAT THEY, UM, THAT THEY QUARRY FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T REMEMBER, ONE OF THE PRIMARY INDUSTRIES IN THE CANARY ISLAND IS QUARRIED STONE.
UM, AND, UM, SOME OF THE, AND YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR AND I WERE THERE, AND I KNOW THAT COUNCILMAN GRO WAS THERE, UH, COUNCILMAN TRAVINO, I THINK YOU WENT WITH ME AS WELL.
UH, THE, UM, THE, THOSE, THAT STONE TRADITION OF THEIRS GOES BACK, UM, WAY, WAY, WAY LONGER THAN WE WERE EVER HERE.
UH, AND WE, UH, I, I THINK IT'S, IT'S A REALLY NEAT OPPORTUNITY THAT'S ONLY GONNA BE AVAILABLE TO US ONE TIME TO BE ABLE TO PUNCTUATE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT SAN ANTONIO'S HISTORY, UM, WITH A VERY DURABLE MATERIAL LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, I'D, I'D, I'D LIKE TO WARN YOU GUYS AHEAD OF TIME THAT I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THIS OFTEN AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR PLAN.
'CAUSE I, I THINK IT'D BE A, I THINK IT'D BE A LOVELY THING TO, UM, TO DO FOR GENERATIONS IN THE FUTURE.
SECONDLY, I'LL TELL YOU, LAURIE, YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE STONE IN MAINE PLAZA, UH, A COUPLE OF TIMES.
AND I THINK YOU TOLD ME THAT IT WAS CALLED APPALOOSA, OKLAHOMA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WHAT WAS IT? IT'S OKLAHOMA SUGAR LOAF.
AND, UH, I THINK IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL.
UH, BUT I STARTED DOING SOME READING YESTERDAY ON THE HISTORY OF MAINE PLAZA AND THAT CHURCH AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S, IT'S CANARY ISLAND PLAZA, RIGHT? UM, AND THESE LENOS WERE THE ONE THAT HELPED BUILD IT.
AND NOW I'M KIND OF KICKING MYSELF WONDERING, MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, INVESTED IN SOME CANARY ISLAND STONE WAY BACK THEN, BUT HERE'S A SECOND CHANCE, UH, FOR US TO, FOR US TO DO IT.
ERIC WALSH IS, UH, SOME CANARY ISLAND STONE SO THAT WE CAN HELP TELL THE STORY, UM, THE WAY THAT COUNCILMAN TREVINO, UH, MENTIONED, RIGHT? EVERY, ALL OF THESE STORIES ARE VERY IMPORTANT AND THEY ALL LEAD TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
SO WITH THAT, THANKS TO EVERYBODY FOR PUTTING IN THE HARD WORK.
AND, UH, MAYOR, UH, THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.
COUNCIL MEMBER EZ, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY.
YEAH, JUST A COUPLE OF FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS HERE.
UH, AGAIN, THANKS EVERYBODY FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.
UM, AGAIN, UM, A LOT OF CHANGES BACK A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
UM, BUT, UM, LORI, AGAIN ON THIS TRAFFIC MODELING, SO THE WAY THE LEASE IS WRITTEN, AND MAYBE THIS IS A ANDY QUESTION, THE WAY THE LEASE IS WRITTEN, UH, WE NEED TO DO THIS BY ONE JUNE.
WHAT'S DRIVING THIS ONE JUNE DATE TO, UM, HURRY UP AND CLOSE OFF OFF THESE ROADS? WHAT'S, WHAT'S DRIVING THAT? IT'S CERTAINLY NOT THE LEASE, IS IT? THAT'S NOT WRITTEN IN THE LEASE, IS IT? NO, IT'S, IT'S A, NO.
UM, IT'S WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING AND OKAY.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH OUR PARTNERS.
THEY HAVE A, UM, EXHIBIT, THE 18 POUND EXHIBIT THAT'S OPENING IN MID-APRIL.
UM, THEY WOULD LIKE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO SAFELY CROSS THAT SECTION OF THE STREET, UM, WHEN THEY GO TO LOOK AT IT, BUT ALSO THEY'D LIKE TO DO MORE PROGRAMMING OF THE SITE AND BE ABLE TO ACTIVATE THE SITE.
SO THIS WILL ALLOW THEM TO TEST OUT THOSE ACTIVATIONS SIMULTANEOUSLY.
THE CITY NEEDS TO DO SOME TRAFFIC MODELING OF THE STREET, AND WE CANNOT DO THAT TRAFFIC MODELING UNTIL WE CLOSE THAT SECTION TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE THE TRAFFIC GOES AND GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE ISSUES IN THAT AREA.
AND SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING TO DO THAT IMMEDIATELY, UM, ONCE THE STREET IS CLOSED? YEAH.
WELL, WITH THE, UH, THE MUSEUM TIED INTO THIS THING AS WELL, I, I, I DON'T LIKE THE OPEN-ENDED DATE EITHER.
IT COULD BE ANOTHER 10 YEARS OR 15 OR 20 YEARS BEFORE THEY SECURE THE FUNDING ON THIS.
AND HERE WE HAVE THAT STREET CLOSE THIS WHOLE TIME, AND I, I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT AT ALL.
UM, THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE CLOSING THAT.
I MEAN, ONCE, IF WE DO THE STREET MODELING, WE DO THE STREET MODELING AND OPEN IT BACK UP AGAIN AND KEEP IT OPEN UNTIL WE GET THIS OTHER STUFF SETTLED WITH THE MUSEUM.
UM, I I WANTED TO ALSO, UH, ASK ABOUT, YOU SHOWED THAT ONE PICTURE OF IT LOOKED LIKE A SECURITY FENCE AROUND THE CHAPEL AND, AND LONG BARRACKS.
ARE WE INTENDING TO PUT A, ANOTHER FENCE LINE OR SOMETHING, A BARRIER AROUND THOSE FACILITIES, UM, AS WELL UNDER THIS, THIS CONCEPT I DIDN'T SEE ANYWHERE IN THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE ANY KIND OF BARRIERS ANYWHERE.
SO WHAT, IS THAT A BARRIER THAT'S
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SHOWN ON THAT DRAWING OR, OR JUST NO, TO OPT THAT OUT? WHAT IT, WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO SHOW IS THAT THOSE TWO, UM, LOCATIONS AND MUSEUM AND THEN THE CHURCH OF LONG BARRACK THAT WILL HAVE MANAGED ACCESS AND OKAY.SO, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT TO SHOW, YOU KNOW, A WALL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S JUST TO INDICATE THAT, THAT WE MANAGE VERSUS THE ENTIRE PLAZA HAVING MANAGED ACCESS.
WELL, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL BACK THERE.
PEOPLE MILLING AROUND TO THE BACK OF THE CHAPEL AND, AND THOSE OTHER AREAS AROUND THAT, I, I'D HATE TO SEE THAT CONTROLLED WHERE PEOPLE CAN'T GET BACK INTO THOSE AREAS EITHER.
SO I'LL BE LOOKING AT THAT SPECIFICALLY ON THE NEXT, UH, VERSION OF DESIGNS.
UM, AGAIN, THE MONEY THING, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
AS MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, THAT PORTION OF THE MONEY THAT'S, UH, WITH CEOS AND, AND THE, UM, EVEN THE BOND MONEY, I MEAN, THAT, THAT DOES NOT HAVE TO GO TO THIS, AND I'M A LITTLE BIT, UM, UH, UNEASY ABOUT PAYING FOR SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LEASING TO THE STATE AS WELL.
UM, I I, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO DO THAT.
WHY, WHY, WHY IN THE STATE DOING THAT? I, AND AS COUNCILMAN VINNO WAS SAYING, WE'RE TAKING ON MORE BURDEN BY DOING THAT.
WHAT'S THE STATE'S? WHAT, WHAT'S THE COMPENSATION FROM THE STATE AND WHAT ADDITIONAL BURDEN ARE THEY TAKING ON TO OFFSET WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO ON THEIR PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE LEASING? AND THAT'S, THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH THAT ALSO.
SO I'LL, I'LL, I'VE GOT MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT FOR THIS, THIS NEXT WEEK.
UM, AND WE WILL HOPEFULLY GET SOME BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF EXACTLY HOW THIS MONEY IS BEING SPENT AND ON WHAT PIECES OF PROPERTY OUT THERE.
UM, I THINK MY FOLKS, UH, HAD PHIL BACKIE ON THE, UH, UH, INITIALLY ON THIS CITIZENS COMMITTEE, AND, UH, HE LEFT AND NOW HAVE WENDELL HALL, AND I THANK THEM FOR PARTICIPATING AND BE A PART OF THIS PROCESS AS WELL.
SO WITH THAT, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY, COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA.
UM, COUNCILMAN PER, UH, COUNCILMAN, UH, ELIAS, UH, REMINDED ME OF SOMETHING THAT I FORGOT TO ADD.
AND, UM, SO, UH, SO I'VE LEARNED THROUGHOUT THAT SPANISH FRIARS, UH, DEPENDED REALLY HEAVILY ON, UM, ON INDIAN LEADERS TO HELP THEM PRODUCE THE LABORS FOR BUILDING, UM, OUR MISSIONS.
AND SO, UM, THE
AND SO I KNOW WE HAVE THE DESIGNERS ON BOARD, AND AS COUNCILMAN PUT FORTH, UH, THE PROPOSAL TO CONSIDER, UH, MARY MAYBE SOME OF THE CANARY ISLANDERS, I WOULD, UM, ALSO PROBABLY PROPOSE THAT WE CONSIDER, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN IT IN, IN VARIOUS STORIES, UM, THE
THAT'S IT, THAT'S MY, MY, UH, MY, MY ONLY COMMENT.
COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHE GARCIA, AND I THINK THAT'S EVERYONE WHO'S, UM, IN THE QUEUE TO SPEAK AT THIS POINT.
UM, LAURA, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY JUST ONE THING, UH, JUST TO MAKE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR.
IS THERE AN ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL BURDEN THAT'S BEING PLACED UPON THE CITY IN THIS AMENDMENT BASED ON WHERE WE WERE WITH THE ORIGINAL LEASE? NO, THE CITY'S FINANCIAL COMMITMENT REMAINS THE SAME, AND IT'S $38 MILLION.
WELL, I, AGAIN, I, I JUST WANNA THANK EVERYBODY WHO'S LEANED INTO THIS, AND ESPECIALLY OUR CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
I KNOW ANETTA, UH, AND SUE ANN, UH, DID NOT SPEAK TODAY, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN SO EVER PRESENT IN THE PROCESS OVER THE LAST, UH, MONTH OR SO, UH, AND HAVE PRODUCED, UH, WHAT WE SEE TODAY, WHICH, IF YOU'RE LISTENING TO THE, THE COMMENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY AND, AND SEEING THE, THE REACTIONS TO THIS AMENDMENT, UH, PROCESS, UH, HAVE MET ALMOST ALL OF THE, UH, DIFFICULT ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN SWIRLING OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
SO I'M VERY EXCITED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
UH, JUST TO, UH, BEFORE I HAND IT OFF TO COUNCIL MEMBER GRO FOR SOME FINAL COMMENTS, UH, NEXT STEPS ON THIS IS THAT, UH, ANDY WILL BE WORKING TO, UH, SECURE THE FINAL DRAFT, UH, LEASE AMENDMENT.
UH, IT WILL BE POSTED ON THE AGENDA AND SHARED WITH THE G L O AND THEN THAT WILL BE, UH, IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL ON THE DIOCESE ON THE 15TH OF APRIL.
SO, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT STEPS.
UH, AND LET ME HAND IT NOW TO COUNCILMAN GRA TO CLOSE US OUT.
THANK YOU, MAYOR, VERY MUCH THANK YOU TO ALL MY COLLEAGUES FOR YOUR VERY GOOD COMMENTS AND CONVERSATIONS.
AND IT JUST REALLY DOES, UM, AMPLIFY AND HIGHLIGHT
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HOW THIS AREA, THIS MISSION VALERO, THIS ALAMO BELONGS TO ALL OF US AND WE HAVE TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND WE, UM, MUST MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO ELEVATE THE EXPERIENCE FOR EVERYONE HERE SO THAT ALL SAN ANTONIANS AND VISITORS ALIKE CAN SEE THEMSELVES WHEN THEY ARE EXPERIENCING THE ALAMO.SO I REALLY DO APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS AND, UM, JUST KNOW THAT WE WILL, UM, GET THE ANSWERS AS WELL AS WE CAN TO YOUR QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE BROUGHT UP AND BROUGHT FORWARD.
I LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, RECONNECTING WITH THE, UM, G L O AND THE ALAMO IN ORDER TO GET SOME MORE CLARIFICATIONS ON.
SO ITEMS, UM, AND THANK YOU MAYOR FOR, UM, HAVING ME STEP INTO THIS, THIS SEAT, WHICH IS, UH, ABSOLUTELY PERSONAL AND, UH, A TREMENDOUS RESPONSIBILITY AS WE MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT, NOT JUST TO THE STORY OF SAN ANTONIO, BUT FOR THE STORY OF THE AMERICAS.
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING A, A MORE ENGAGED CONVERSATION NEXT WEEK.
COUNCIL MEMBER GRO, AND, UM, AGAIN, THANK YOU EVERYONE, UH, FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION TODAY.
UH, THE TIME IS 4:10 PM UM, THERE WILL BE NO EXECUTIVE SESSIONS TODAY.
EXECUTIVE, EXECUTIVE EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS THAT WERE POSTED FOR TODAY WILL BE CARRIED OVER UNTIL THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING TOMORROW, THURSDAY, APRIL 8TH, AND WILL BE CONSIDERED AT ANY TIME DURING TOMORROW'S CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
THE TIME IS NOW 4:11 PM AND TODAY'S MEETING IS NOW IN RECESS, AND WE WILL CLOSE OUR CITY COUNCIL B SESSION AGENDA AT THIS TIME.
UH, AND WE DO HAVE A CITIZENS TO BE HEARD FIVE O'CLOCK, SO, UM, SEE YOU BACK AT FIVE.