* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:23] SENIOR RODRIGUEZ, ROBERT TAPIA, HARPER PRESENTE, MS. BROWN. OKAY. QUORUM, SAN ANTONIO AND ELECTRON. [00:05:08] ROBERT SENIOR NELSON C. SENIOR SUNGA. R C, SENIOR TAPIA. C SENIOR HARPER. C. SENIOR BROWN. C RAMIREZ. INDIVIDUAL MEDIUM IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. NOTIFICATION [00:14:52] FRONTAL. [00:18:08] I S ROBERT TAP. NO. MORENO. [00:21:29] ROBERT TAPIA. S B DIRECTION. I, UH, JOSE. [00:25:10] OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. CORRECT. OKAY. [00:30:27] NO, NO. ROBERT [00:35:26] DSS DOLLARS? YES. OKAY. [00:40:26] THIS IS MM-HMM. . OKAY. OKAY. NO, NO. [00:45:38] OKAY. OKAY. NO [00:54:41] DETERIORATING. UH, MORE PICTURES OF THE INTERIOR SIGHTING. THIS IS THE ATTACHMENT. UM, UH, WHEN I LOOKED AT THE PERMITS, IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE PERMIT, SO, UM, WHEN [00:55:01] YOU LOOK IN THE INTERIOR, YOU COULD TELL IT WASN'T JUST BUILT, BUT IT, IT WASN'T, UM, IT WASN'T A PART OF THE ORIGINAL PLAN FOR THE, FOR THE HOUSE. SO, UM, THIS IS THE DETERIORATE, MORE OF THE INTERIOR SIDING. THE ROOF IS DETERIORATING. THE PLYWOOD IS JUST THE, THE ROTTING AWAY. THIS IS THE BACK. UM, YOU CAN SEE THE SLAP ON GRADE IS CRACKED. UM, ON THE, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT'S, UH, BROKEN, UH, PIECE OF IT'S MISSING, UM, BUT IT EXTERIOR WALL IS BREAKING AND DETERIORATING. THE OTHER SIDE, YOU CAN SEE MORE OF THE PATCHWORK. THEY WERE JUST TRYING TO COVER THE HOLES ON THE WALL WITH PLYWOOD OR ANY PIECE OF PLYWOOD THEY CAN FIND. YOU SEE THE ROOF IS, UH, APPLICATED A LITTLE BIT. THIS IS THE BACK OF THE STRUCTURE. UM, YOU CAN SEE THE INTERIOR WALL IS BROKEN, UM, AND DETERIORATING. YOU CAN SEE MORE OF THE DETERIORATION OF THE ROOF. THIS IS THE INTERIOR. YOU SEE A LITTLE BIT OF THE BROKEN SHEET ROCK. UM, UM, WHEN I FIRST STARTED THIS CASE, THERE WAS VAGRANTS BREAKING IN AND OUT OF THE HOUSE. UM, BUT, AND IT WAS FULL OF TRACTION DEBRIS, BUT THE HOUSE, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN CLEANED UP BY SOMEONE OF THE PROPERTY. UH, THEY REMOVED ALL THE TRASH AND EVERYTHING, SO IT'S EMPTY RIGHT NOW. I WANTED TO SHOW THIS BECAUSE, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF EXPOSED WIRING, UM, THROUGHOUT THE STRUCTURE. AS, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PREVIOUS PICTURE, THE FAN WAS DOWN. SO THERE IS A LOT OF EXPOSED W WIRING, A PHOTO. THIS IS THE FLOOR IN THE KITCHEN. UM, YOU SEE SOME OF THE FLOOR COVERING IS DETERIORATED. SOME OF THE WALLS ARE, ARE A LITTLE BIT DETERIORATED OR THE, THE FLOOR IN THE KITCHEN. NOW THIS IS THE BACK ATTACHMENT WHERE THE EXIT WHERE THEY HAD THAT, UH, THEY JUST BUILT IT. UM, YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE ON THE, UH, INTERIOR, UH, THE ROOF IS DILAPIDATED. THE SHEET ROCK'S BREAKING. UM, THE FLOOR IS JUST, UH, SOME OF IT IS GRAYED. UM, IT IS A HALF. IT IS MAINLY A CONCRETE SLAB, BUT I THINK THEY BUILT OVER IT. AND, UH, RIGHT THERE WHERE IT'S DETERIORATED MORE, IT IS, IT IS ON GRAY. THIS IS THE ROOF. YOU CAN SEE THE, SEE MORE OF THE EXPOSED WIRING. UM, THEY WERE JUST PUTTING IT THROUGH THERE JUST TO TRY TO GET ELECTRICITY INTO THE PROPERTY. UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE INTERIOR ELEMENTS COMING IN THE RIGHT HERE, WHERE IT'S BROKEN, YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT'S SITTING ON GRAY, THE, THE FOUR JOISTS, AND IT JUST ROTTED JUST FROM THE, THE WATER DAMAGE. THIS IS THE REST OF THE ROOM. YOU CAN SEE IT'S JUST PATCHWORK IN THERE. BROKEN SHEET ROCK. UH, THE ROOF IS SAGGING A LITTLE BIT. THIS IS THAT ROOM WHERE I SEE WHERE THERE'S THAT BIG OLD HOLE RIGHT THERE ON THE SIDE WHERE THE ELEMENTS ARE COMING IN. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE, THE FLOOR IS A LITTLE BIT DAMAGED FROM THE WATER COMING IN THROUGH THAT HOLE. THIS IS THE RESTROOM TO THE PROPERTY. UM, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE DETERIORATION. THE, THE WALLS ARE DETERIORATING. THE FLOOR IS DETERIORATING THE AROUND THEES BECAUSE OF THE, BECAUSE OF THE VAGRANTS THAT WERE BREAKING IN, UH, THERE WAS NO WATER TO THE PROPERTY DETERIORATING THE WALLS. AND THEN THE STUFF RIGHT THERE. THIS IS A SINGLE STORY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE, WHICH HAS SEVERE DAMAGE TO THE ROOF, WHICH HAS SECURITY SHINGLES AND HAS THE BOW IN THE ROOF. EXTERIOR WALLS ARE BROKEN OR MISSING OR CAUSING STRUCTURE TO BE EXPOSED TO THE ELEMENT BACK. ADDITION OF THE STRUCTURE IS DILAPIDATED WITH FLOOR JOYS SITTING ON GRAY. INTERIOR IS DILAPIDATED WITH BROKEN SHEET ROCK, AND THE STRUCTURE LOCATED AT TWO 19 GLASS ARE IN, IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX DASH 56 SUBSECTION FOR THE MAIN 2 5 7 8 11 12 15, IN WHICH ANY BUILDING OR STRUCTURE HAS ANY OR ALL THE CONDITIONS DEFECTS HEREAFTER DESCRIBED SHALL BE DEEMED TO BE A DANGEROUS BUILDING AND HAZARD TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE PROVIDED AS SUCH, CONDITIONS OF DEFECTS OF DILAPIDATION OF, OR UNFITNESS FOR HUMAN HABITATION POSE, THREAT OR POTENTIAL THREATS OF LIFE OF PROPERTY. ZACH RECOMMENDS DEMOLITION THIS CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION OF 2 95. THANK YOU. DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE CUT OFF? SIR, THIS IS DWAYNE NELSON. DO YOU, DO YOU FIND ANY WATER DAMAGE OR IS THE ROOF ACTUALLY, UH, WATERPROOF? UM, THROUGHOUT THE, THE MOST OF THE WATER DAMAGE APPEARED IN THAT BACK ATTACHMENT, UM, RIGHT THERE. UM, MOST OF THE, LIKE THAT ROOM THAT HAD THE HOLE IN IT, THAT'S WHERE THE MAJOR WATER DAMAGE WAS RIGHT THERE, WHERE THE HOLE IN THE EXTERIOR WALL. BUT MOST OF THE ROOF DAMAGE WAS IN THAT BACK ATTACHMENT. THE MAIN STRUCTURE [01:00:01] ITSELF HAS NO WATER DAMAGE THAT YOU'VE SEEN? NO, NOT THAT I'VE SEEN, SIR. THANK YOU. THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE OFFICER? IS THERE ELECTRICITY HOOKED UP HERE, BUT I, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S NO WATER, BUT IS THE ELECTRIC STILL HOOKED UP? NO, MA'AM. THE ELECTRICITY HASN'T, UH, THEY HAVEN'T HAD ELECTRICITY, UH, ON THE PROPERTY FOR A WHILE. OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THIS IS, YES, THIS IS MEGAN RODRIGUEZ. I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM, YOU SAID THAT YOU DID MAKE CONTACT WITH THE HEIRS OF THE ESTATE? YES, I DID MAKE CONTACT WITH JOE SANCHO, JENNIFER SANCHO AND RUTH ES. OKAY. UM, BUT THAT, THAT WAS BACK IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR, SO A MONTH AGO. YEAH. OKAY. UM, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IT SOUNDS AS THOUGH THE MAJORITY OF THE ISSUES ARE WITH THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. IS THAT CORRECT? UH, THE ATTACHMENT IN THE BACK, YES. UM, YEAH, THE ATTACHMENT OF THE ATTACHMENT BUILDING. YEAH. AND UNDER SOME OF THE EXTERIOR WALLS THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY AND LIKE THE DETERIORATED SHINGLES ON THE ROOF, BUT THAT'S THE MOST, THE ISSUE WHERE THAT WAS ATTACHMENT. OKAY. THIS MIGHT BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE QUESTION, UM, BUT, UH, DO WE COUNT THAT ATTACHMENT AS AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE OR DO WE COUNT THAT JUST WITH THE MAIN OH, WE, WE COUNT THAT WITH THE MAIN BECAUSE IT IS ATTACHED TO THE MAIN STRUCTURE, SO IT IS COUNTED AS ONE BUILDING. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY, UH, OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE CODE OFFICER FROM THE BOARD? YES, JUST Z SURE. GO AHEAD, MR. ZUNIGA. UH, OFFICER, YOU SAID YOU MET WITH HIM, UH, THE, HES, UH, DID THEY GIVE YOU ANY DIRECTION OF WHEN THEY GONNA START THE WORK OR ARE THEY GOING START IT AT ALL? NO, THEY DIDN'T GIMME AN EXACT DATE ABOUT IT, ABOUT IT. UM, THE PROPERTY'S NOT PROBATED. SO WHAT, WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT THEY CAN'T, UH, THE HEIRS ARE WANTING TO REPAIR IT, BUT THEY, THEY CAN'T AGREE WHO'S GONNA TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE REPAIRS OF THE, THE, THE STRUCTURE. SO BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS, IS, UH, THERE'S DIFFERENT TO THE PROPERTY. SO I MEAN, THEY WANT ONE SINGLE ORDER TO THE PROPERTY, BUT, UM, WE JUST CAN'T. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE FIRST PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. MR. SANCHO, IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. UM, YES, MY NAME IS, UH, JOE SANCHO. UM, MY CURRENT ADDRESS IS 1 3 0 2 NORTHBOROUGH, UH, 7 8 2 5 3 SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. THANK YOU. YOU CAN BEGIN WITH YOUR TESTIMONY. OKAY. UM, WE WEREN'T, UH, I GUESS RUTH WAS THE ONE PRIMARILY SUPPOSED TO BE MONITORING THE PROPERTY AND STUFF. UM, UH, ME AND MY SISTER JENNIFER WEREN'T AWARE THAT SHE WASN'T KEEPING UP WITH IT. UH, SO MY SISTER WAS FINE WITH JUST MOVING BACK INTO THE PROPERTY AND STARTING TO DO, UM, YOU KNOW, GET THE PROPER PERMITS AND GET THE WORK DONE, WHATEVER, TO MAKE IT. UM, THIS IS JENNIFER, TO MAKE THE PROPERTY LIVABLE AGAIN TO GET THE ROOF FIXED AND SUCH. UM, AND OF COURSE, ALL THE SIDING AND STUFF, THE, THE BACK STRUCTURE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS JUST ADDED ON, BUT IT WAS, I KNOW IT WAS, IT WAS BEING INCLUDED AS PART OF THE HOUSE NOW THAT'S FINE. BUT IT WAS, UM, IT WAS INTENTIONALLY, WELL, WHEN IT WAS MADE, IT WAS JUST SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE A, LIKE BASICALLY FOR STORAGE, JUST FOR, IT WASN'T, UM, IT WASN'T LIVING ANYTHING. UM, THERE WAS NO APPLIANCES GONNA BE IN THERE. IT WAS JUST BASICALLY GONNA BE JUST FOR STORAGE, JUST FOR, YOU KNOW, THE LAWNMOWER AND JUST LITTLE, LITTLE THINGS THAT YOU DON'T KEEP INSIDE THE HOUSE. UM, BUT, UH, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO, I GUESS WHEN ME AND JENNIFER FOUND OUT ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING ON, UM, I GUESS THE HOUSE HAD ALREADY BEEN BOARDED UP AND STUFF, SO WE WEREN'T ACTUALLY ABLE TO GO INSIDE TO SEE WHAT WAS ACTUALLY LIKE, WHAT KIND OF WORK WAS NEEDED. UM, NOT, THE ROOF WAS OBVIOUS AND THE WALLS WERE OBVIOUS WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE ON THE OUTSIDE, BUT, UM, THERE WASN'T ANY, WE COULDN'T GET, ACTUALLY GET IN THE HOUSE TO SEE WHAT WAS ACTUALLY, WHAT WORK WAS NEEDED TO BE DONE. UM, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS MEETING THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW, UM, WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN FIRST BEFORE WE COULD, [01:05:01] THAT THEY WOULD LET US KNOW IF WE WOULD BE ABLE TO EVEN GO IN THERE AND TRY TO FIX IT BECAUSE, UM, IT IS BASICALLY, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING WHEN I TALKED TO, UM, THE APPRAISER WAS THAT, UM, IT WAS GONNA, YOU GUYS WERE GONNA DETERMINE WHETHER THE HOUSE WAS GONNA BE, UM, DEMOLISHED OR NOT. UM, AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE WERE WAITING FOR. UM, ME AND MY SISTER HAVE THE MEANS TO, UH, START FIXING THE HOUSE. UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S AN ISSUE AS FAR AS THAT ALL OF US ARE LISTED ON THERE, BUT MY SISTER WAS GONNA MOVE IN ON THE PROPERTY. JENNIFER, UM, WAS GONNA MOVE IN AND WE WERE GONNA START GETTING THE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER PERMITS WE NEEDED TO GET THE PROPERTY UP TO CODE. HAVE YOU, UH, PROVIDED US WITH THE SCOPE OF WORK AND, UH, ANY BIDS TO REPAIR THE PROPERTY, ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO, I DID NOT. UM, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS, UM, WHEN I HAD SPOKE TO, UH, I BELIEVE MR. BARENT, I BELIEVE HIS NAME WAS, UM, WE, HE WAS TOLD HE WAS, HE TOLD US THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO COME UP WITH THAT. BUT THAT WAS THE THING. LIKE WE, WE COULDN'T ACTUALLY GET INSIDE THE HOUSE OTHER THAN SAY LIKE, OKAY, WELL WE NEED THE ROOF REDONE. BUT IT'S LIKE, WELL, WELL, WHAT ABOUT INSIDE THE HOUSE? IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WELL, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GET IN THE HOUSE 'CAUSE IT'S BOARDED UP. AND SO IT'S LIKE, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WHERE IT'S LIKE, WELL, YOU CAN'T GO ON THE PROPERTY BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S BLOCKED UP RIGHT NOW. AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, UM, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO, YOU KNOW, DETERMINE WHAT WOULD WE NEED DONE IF WE CAN'T GET INSIDE THE HOUSE AND WITHOUT GOING IN THERE, BREAKING THE BOARDS DOWN OR, AND, YOU KNOW, AND GETTING IN TROUBLE FOR DOING THAT. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE, WE WANTED TO DO, BUT WE COULDN'T, LIKE I SAID, WE COULDN'T GO. WE, WE DIDN'T WANT TO GO IN THE PROPERTY WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, GETTING IN TROUBLE OR CAUSING ANYTHING WHERE WE WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE IN THERE. OKAY. UM, OFFICER BARTOS, IS THERE, IS THERE SOMETHING WE'RE DOING THAT'S PREVENTING THE OWNER FROM ACCESSING THEIR OWN PROPERTY? NO, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT PREVENTING ANY, THE OWNER FROM ACCESSING HIS OWN PROPERTY. UH, LIKE I SAID, IT'S MORE LIKE WHO'S TAKING RESPONSIBILITY. UH, WHEN I WAS THERE, WHEN RUTH MENEZ WAS THERE, SHE WAS THE ONE THAT SECURED IT. SO, UM, I'M PRETTY SURE, UH, THERE WAS NO, THERE WAS NO, NO TRESPASSING POSTING ON THAT SIGN TOO. SO YEAH, THE CITY HAD, HAS NOT PREVENTED THE OWNER FROM ACCESS PROPERTY. OKAY. DID THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, FOR MR. SANCHO? THIS IS DWAYNE NELSON. I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS FOR MR. SANCHEZ. UH, SIR, WHAT WAS THE DATE OF DEATH OF THE, OF THE OWNER? UM, SHE PASSED AWAY, UH, AUGUST, UH, 2015. UH, THERE WAS A DEATH CERTIFICATE FILED FOR A DEEDED IN THOUSAND 13. IS THERE A REASON FOR THAT? THAT WAS MY FATHER THAT PASSED AWAY IN 2013 AND OKAY. SO FATHER NEEDED TO SOME OTHER, OKAY, I UNDERSTAND THAT. UH, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM THAT YOU'RE HAVING WITH PROBATE? UH, THE, MY SISTER WAS THE ONE THAT, RUTH WAS THE ONE THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TAKING CARE OF EVERYTHING. UM, INITIALLY I GUESS SHE CAME OUT AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THOSE BIG OLD FAMILY ISSUES MESSES WHERE SHE'S THE ONE THAT WANTED TO JUST SELL THE PROPERTY AND, YOU KNOW, KICK EVERYBODY OUT. AND, UM, AT THE TIME WHEN ALL THAT HAPPENED, MY BROTHERS WERE LIVING THERE. UM, I HAVE MY OWN HOUSE. MY SISTER HAS HER OWN PLACE TO LIVE. WHEN I, MY JENNIFER, UM, SHE WANTED TO KICK EVERYBODY OUT. AND SO MY BROTHERS, SHE WANTED TO KICK THEM OUT, AND THEY DON'T, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO GO AT THE TIME, AND SHE WAS TRYING TO SELL THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY. AND, UM, IT WAS ONE OF, IT'S A BIG OLD, IT WAS A BIG OLD MESS. AND SO MY BROTHERS WERE THERE, UM, PART OF THE WHOLE THING WITH HER BEING THE MAIN ONE IN CHARGE SUPPOSEDLY, UM, THAT SHE HAD TOLD MY MOM THAT SHE WAS GONNA TAKE CARE OF THE PROPERTY AND TAKE CARE OF MY BROTHERS AND SUCH. AND SO WE JUST LEFT IT AT THAT. I, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT, I GUESS RIGHT IN THE BEGINNING, UM, SHE WAS STILL PAYING FOR SOME OF THE BILLS OR STUFF AND LIKE PROVIDING FOR MY BROTHERS, BUT THAT SHE STOPPED, UM, DIDN'T TELL ANYBODY AND WE WEREN'T MONITORING IT. UM, UM, I WASN'T GOING TO CHECK IN ON THE PROPERTY OR ANYTHING BECAUSE SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TAKING CARE OF IT, AND I GUESS SHE STOPPED AT SOME POINT. UM, SO THE SISTER, THE SISTER YOU'RE REFERRING YES. IT'S RUTH IS THE ONE THAT'S NOT JENNIFER. JENNIFER'S THE ONE PROPERTY NOW. HOW MUCH ARE, [01:10:08] WELL, THEY, SO, UM, WHAT, IT DEPENDS WHAT, UM, WHAT, UM, WHAT FIXES WE NEED TO GET DONE, JUST TO BRING IT UP TO CODE. BUT, UM, UP TO $6,000 RIGHT NOW, JUST WITHOUT EVEN APPLYING FOR A LOAN OR ANYTHING, JUST, JUST CASH. UM, WOULD BE BE MY SISTER JENNIFER, AND IT'D BE MY SISTER JENNIFER, AND I WOULD BE, I WOULD, THAT WAS MY PART, BUT MY SISTER JENNIFER WOULD BE THE ONE LIVING THERE. UM, WE WOULD BOTH BE WORKING ON IT. AND WHAT WAS THE PLAN THAT YOU HAD FOR THE ATTACHMENT? UM, IF NEEDED, WE COULD JUST TAKE IT DOWN. UM, LIKE I SAID, EVEN THOUGH IT'S CONSIDERED PART OF IT, IT WAS LITERALLY JUST, UM, BASICALLY JUST THE WALLS AND THE ROOF THAT WAS PUT RIGHT NEXT TO THE HOUSE. THE CONCRETE WAS PUT DOWN, BUT, UM, IT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE A LIVING SPACE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT WAS, WAS JUST SIMPLY FOR STORAGE. OKAY. AND THE $6,000 YOU REFERRED TO AS YOUR, YOUR OWN, UH, PLAN OR YOUR OWN FINANCIAL ABILITY RIGHT NOW? YES. YES. AND JENNIFER WOULD BE ADDING TO THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S THE END OF MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. DID ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO. OKAY. DO WE HAVE, UH, ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THIS. OKAY. AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD, UH, THE CHAIR WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION CHAIR. THIS IS DWAYNE NELSON. I HAVE A QUESTION ACTUALLY FOR LEGAL. UH, OKAY. APPROXIMATELY, UH, I GUESS I, I NEED TO UNDERSTAND PROBATE ISSUES. UH, IF, IF THE FAMILY IS NOT IN AGREEMENT ON THE PROBATE, IS THE PROBABILITY OF ACHIEVING A PROBATE IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, MEANING THREE TO SIX MONTHS A POSSIBILITY? OR IS THAT TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE? UM, UH, IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S POSSIBLE. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OVERLYING ISSUES ARE GONNA BE. UM, SO THE BEST ANSWER I CAN JUST GIVE YOU IS IT'S POSSIBLE THAT, THAT I, I, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN EXPAND ON THAT ONLY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ISSUES ARE, SO I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A, UM, A TRUE, I, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ISSUES ARE. SO I I I COULDN'T TELL YOU HOW FAST, UM, IT WOULD BE ABLE TO BE WRAPPED UP. I CAN I MAKE A COMMENT, PLEASE. IF IT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS AND THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN TOGETHER ON WHO, WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY AND THEY HAVEN'T TAKEN IT TO PROBATE BECAUSE IT PROBABLY, THE, THE MOTHER PROBABLY DIED IN TEST STATE WITHOUT A WILL. SO THEY HAVE A LONG, A LONG ROAD TO HOLD BEFORE THEY GET TO PROBATE. MR. CHAIR, THIS IS LEGAL. YES. I, I I DO WANNA MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THAT WHATEVER THIS BOARD DECIDES, IT DOES RUN WITH THE LAND. UM, SO, UH, ALTHOUGH, UM, THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS WITH WHO OWNS IT, I WOULD, OR, OR WHO HAS AUTHORITY TO DO IT? IT DOES. LOOK, I, I, I WOULD HOPE THAT THIS BOARD MAKES THE DETERMINATION BASED ON THE, THE PROPERTY, UM, AND A PERSON COMING BEFORE YOU THAT IS, UM, STATING WHATEVER THEIR WISHES ARE. UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER THIS IS NELSON, MR. CHAIR, GO AHEAD, MR. NELSON. I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT TWO 19 GLASS AVENUE AS A PUBLIC NUISANCE THAT'S DEFINED BY ARTICLE EIGHT, SIX SUBSECTIONS 2, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, AND 15. UH, DUE THE STATE OF ATION OF THE PROPERTY. HOWEVER, THE PROPERTY CAN BE FEASIBLY REPAIRED AND FINANCIALLY REPAIRED, AND AS A RESULT, I WOULD REPAIRS BE STARTED, UH, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. BUT REPAIRS BE COMPLETED IN, HAVE A MOTION FOR REPAIR, A 20 DAY REPAIR ORDER. LEMME ADD, LEMME ADD A SHORT AMENDMENT TO THAT, AND THAT THE PROPERTY REMAIN, UH, SECURE. OKAY. AND VACANT OR JUST SECURE UNDER THE PRESENT [01:15:01] CONDITIONS? IT, UH, AND BECAUSE OF BANKRUPTCY, IT NEEDS TO REMAIN VACANT. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A REPAIR 120 DAY REPAIR ORDER WITH, UH, THE PROPERTY TO REMAIN VACANT AND SECURE, UH, ON SUBSECTIONS 2, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, AND 15. AND MR. ZUNIGA, IS THAT A SECOND? YES. OKAY. WE HAVE A SECOND FOR MR. ZUNIGA. DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? OKAY, HEARING NONE, UH, STAFF, CAN WE GET A VOTE PLEASE? MR. NELSON? AYE. MR. ZUNIGA? YES. MR. RODRIGUEZ? AYE. MR. TAPIA? AYE. MR. HARPER? AYE. MS. BROWN? OH, UM, OKAY. AYE, MOTION PASSES WITH THE VOTE. OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. YOU CAN GET WITH YOUR CODE OFFICER TO DISCUSS THE NEXT STEPS GOING FORWARD. UM, OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS? YES, SUNGA. OKAY, GO AHEAD. UH, IS MR. UH, RAMIREZ STILL AROUND? IS YES, SIR, I'M HERE. OKAY. HI, THIS IS, UH, WE HAVE ANOTHER HOUSE ON GLASS AVENUE THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR SOME YEARS. WE, WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THAT, UH, PROPERTY? I, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU THOSE UPDATES RIGHT NOW. WHAT I DO, WHAT I'LL DO IS UP WITH YOU OFFLINE AND THE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS? YES, THIS IS MEGAN RODRIGUEZ. UM, I WAS JUST CURIOUS, UM, JUST BECAUSE THIS HAS COME UP FOR SO MANY DIFFERENT CASES, UH, THE PROBATE ISSUES AND, UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, WHAT WE ARE CONSIDERING WITHIN THE BOARD IS TIED TO THE LAND ITSELF, BUT A LOT OF OUR DETERMINATIONS AND A LOT OF OUR VOTES ARE KIND OF DEPENDENT ON THE OWNER TAKING SOME KIND OF ACTION TO REMEDY THE SITUATION WITH THE LAND. SO IF THE OWNERSHIP, I THINK IS DISPUTED, THEN I THINK IT, IT, IT DOES KIND OF PLAY SOME SORT OF A ROLE IN, UM, OUR DECISION MAKING PROCESS. I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE FOR BOARD MEMBERS TO HAVE ACCESS TO A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON, UH, PROBATE ISSUES AS THEY AFFECT, UM, CODE ENFORCEMENT OR, UM, ANY KIND OF BUILDING, STANDING, BUILDING STANDARDS, BOARD CASES THAT WOULD BE PRESENTED TO US. I WAS ON A CALL THE OTHER NIGHT, UM, I THINK IT WAS MONDAY OR TUESDAY, AND ALL OF THESE ISSUES ABOUT, UH, PROBATE AND SOMETHING CALLED A TODD CAME UP. UM, AND IT WAS THE, THE CALL WAS EXCLUSIVELY ABOUT PROBATE ISSUES AND, UM, IT WAS TALKING ABOUT, UH, HOW PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES DON'T HAVE, DON'T LEAVE WILLS. AND IF YOU DON'T LEAVE A WILL OR YOU DON'T DO HAVE A TODD, THEN THE, ALL, ALL OF THIS STUFF HAS TO GO TOWARDS THE TEXAS, UH, TEXAS WILL DIVIDE THE PROPERTY IF THE OWNERS OR THE HEIRS CANNOT SETTLE THEIR ISSUES. AND A LOT OF THESE CASES, WHEN THEY HAVE 7, 8, 9 CHILDREN AND NOBODY CAN GET, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, NOBODY CAN GET HOLD OF THE PROPERTY, THEN IT'S JUST GONNA WIND UP IN, NOT IN PROBATE COURT, BUT IN, IN COURT ITSELF WHERE THE STATE OF TEXAS WILL DIVIDE THE PROPERTY. IT WAS A REALLY INTERESTING CALL. THERE WAS, UH, TWO LAWYERS ON THE CALL, ONE FROM ST. MARY'S AND ONE FROM TRINITY, AND THEY WERE TALKING EXCLUSIVELY ABOUT PROBATE ISSUES. YEAH, THAT IS VERY INTERESTING. THANK YOU, EVELYN. YEAH, I I DON'T KNOW IF DID THAT RIGHT, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF, UM, PROBATE ISSUES REALLY ACCORDING TO WHAT I'D LEARNED FROM THE CALL, I DON'T KNOW IF PROBATE ISSUES REALLY HAVE A PLACE WITH OUR BOARD BECAUSE THIS IS, YOU KNOW, PERSONAL ISSUES AND WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO JUDGE THE PROPERTY ON WHAT WE SEE AND WHAT WE HEAR FROM THE CLIENTS ABOUT WHAT THEIR, THEIR OPTIONS ARE. BUT I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF PROBATE WOULD REALLY HAVE AN IMPACT HERE UNLESS, UH, YOU, UNLESS THE CLIENT BROUGHT IN THE WILL OR THE TODD AND SAID, HEY, I'M THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. CERTAINLY. UH, AND I, OUR ORDERS, EXCUSE ME, GO AHEAD. OH, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT, UM, I THINK IF WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE CONTACT WITH AN OWNER OR WITH ANY PERSON [01:20:01] RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING REPAIRS TO ENSURE THAT REPAIRS WILL BE MADE OR THAT THERE IS SOME KIND OF, OF A PLAN IN PLACE, WHETHER THAT'S FOR DEMOLITION OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF, UM, FUTURE USE OF THE LAND, IT, IT DOES SEEM AS THOUGH WE NEED TO, UH, HAVE SOME ASSURANCE THAT WE'RE TALKING TO THE RIGHT PERSON WHO HAS THE ABILITY TO EXACTLY DECISIONS. YEAH. SO THAT, THAT'S JUST WHERE MY CONFUSION IS KIND OF COMING IN A LITTLE BIT. YEAH, I I CAN TELL YOU THIS IS LEGAL. I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UM, IF A PROPERTY COMES BEFORE THIS BOARD, UM, AND YOU GO AHEAD AND RELY ON, UH, AN INDIVIDUAL WHO'S COME IN AND SAID THAT THEY'RE GONNA MAKE GROSS REPAIRS, UM, AND THOSE REPAIRS SUBSEQUENTLY DO NOT GET MADE, UNFORTUNATELY WE DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO A IF THEN ELSE TYPE OF ORDER WHERE REPAIR IT IN 30 DAYS OR REPAIR IT IN 120 DAYS OR DEMOLISH. WE CANNOT, WE, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GONNA WANT TO DO. SO ANY PROPERTY THAT IS BY THIS BOARD THAT IS GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THOSE REPAIRS AND THEN THOSE REPAIRS END UP NOT BEING MADE, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO BRING THAT PROPERTY BACK IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD. UM, I I, I CAN SAY, UM, I, I, THE BOARD DEFINITELY SHOULD TAKE EVERYTHING INTO CONSIDERATION. I, I WOULD HOPE THAT, UH, EVEN THOUGH THERE MIGHT BE ISSUES IN REGARDS TO, UM, UM, PROBATE, I, I WOULD HOPE THAT THIS BOARD, IF THERE IS SOMEBODY THAT, UH, IN GOOD FAITH COMES BEFORE YOU AND SAYS THEY WANT TO MAKE THOSE REPAIRS, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD, I WOULD URGE THE BOARD TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER WHAT THEIR PROPOSAL IS. UM, AND, AND DO NOT THINK THAT JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS IN PROBATE OR HAS NOT YET TO BE IN PROBATE, UM, MEANS THAT THOSE THINGS CANNOT BE DONE. SO EVERYTHING IN CONSIDERATION WHEN MAKING A DETERMINATION, NO, LEMME, LEMME JUST GIVE SOME ION IN TERMS OF, OF MY THOUGHT PROCESS IN TERMS OF THE MOTION, UH, I, I DID A REAL QUICK ESTIMATE. THEY'RE LOOKING AT ALMOST $12,000 TO DO THE REPAIRS TO MAKE THE HOUSE, UH, OR BRING THE HOUSE TO CODE UNDER THE ASSUMPTION OF COURSE, THAT THEY ACTUALLY REMOVED, UH, THE ATTACHMENT TO IT BECAUSE THE DETACHMENT IS GONNA HAVE TO BE DEMOLISHED. THERE'S NO WAY THEY COULD SPEND THE MONEY TO BRING IT UP TO CODE, UH, EVER. BUT THE HOUSE ITSELF FOR 12, 15,000 CAN BE REPAIRED AND ONE MEMBER IS WILLING TO SPEND 6,000 ON THEIR OWN. ANOTHER MEMBER'S WILLING TO SPEND SOME MONEY, UH, WHICH MEANS THAT THEORETICALLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOUR, $5,000. AND WITH THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY BY THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT AT LEAST, UH, IT WOULD NOT BE VERY IMPOSSIBLE TO MAKE THAT HOUSE, UH, NOT ONLY, UH, LIVABLE TO CODE, BUT ALSO THE TAXES COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE, UH, SUFFICIENT OR BE SIGNIFICANT. IT'S, IT'S NOT, UH, JUST SETTING OUT THERE, BUT IF WE DEMOLISHED IT, THEN WE'D LOSE THE TAX BASE ALTOGETHER. UH, SO THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE PRIMARY REASON FOR IT. THE OTHER REASON, OF COURSE, WAS THE FACT THAT THE ORDER DID RUN WITH THE LAND, WITH THE LAND, UH, KNOWING FULLY WELL THAT IF I MADE A MISTAKE IN THE MOTION AND DIDN'T GET REPAIRED, IT COMES BACK AND WE CAN DEBOS IT LATER ON. WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S MY THOUGHTS THAT I HOPE THEY CAN GET TOGETHER AND FIX IT, FIX THE HOUSE UP. BUT YOU KNOW, AS WELL AS I KNOW, THE $6,000 IS NOT GOING TO START TO DO, TO FIX THE, TO DO THE REPAIRS, BUT SHOULD IT COME BACK IN 180 DAYS, WELL THEN WE'LL HAVE OUR ANSWER RIGHT THERE. ARE THERE ANY, UH, ANY OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS? I, NOPE. OKAY. WELL THEN, UH, WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 10 59. OKAY GUYS, SEE Y'ALL LATER. EVERYBODY HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND. THANK YOU EVERYONE. YES, YOU TOO. THANK YOU. BYE. APPRECIATE IT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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