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WE'LL START WITH ROLL CALL COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN HERE.
DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZENS TO BE HEARD? NONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
AND WE HAVE ONE WRITTEN COMMENT.
COUNCILMAN, I THINK YOU'RE ON MUTE.
I THINK, I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FIRST AND THEN WE'LL GET, UH, CITIZENS TO BE
[1. 21-3382 Approval of the meeting minutes for the April 5, 2021 Culture and Neighborhood Services Committee Meeting.]
HEARD.SO LET'S, LET'S DO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
[Public Comment]
WE'LL GET TO, UH, ANY CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.WE HAVE A WRITTEN COMMENT BY STEVE
I'M IN COMPLETE SUPPORT OF THE CREATION OF THE NORTH ORDINANCE TASK FORCE OFFLOADING THE RESPONSIBILITY OF NORTH ABATEMENT FROM THE S A D IS NEEDED.
THIS IS NOT A DEVELOPMENT ISSUE FAR AS TODAY, AND WILL REMAIN WELL WITHIN THE DISTANCE OF BEDROOMS THAT THE PRESSURE WAIVES PRODUCED BY TODAY'S SPEAKERS REACH.
WE NEED CREATIVE IDEAS AND CREATIVE MANAGEMENT OF THE TASK FORCE.
WE CAN ENGINEER A NOISE ABATEMENT STRATEGY ON PAR WITH NOISE GENERATION TECHNOLOGY.
I PLAN TO BE INVOLVED IN THE SOLUTION, WHETHER SELECTED AS A MEMBER OF THE TASK FORCE OR NOT.
UM, IF YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING, PLEASE, UH, MUTE YOUR MICROPHONE SO THAT WE DON'T GET ANY FEEDBACK.
I THINK WE, WE WERE RECEIVING, UM, SOME FEEDBACK DURING SOME OF THAT.
[2. 21-3472 Culture and Neighborhood Services Committee Dashboard Overview]
UH, NOW TO, UH, THE DASHBOARD OVERVIEW.WHO'S HANDLING THAT? OH, I'LL TAKE THIS.
UM, MORNING, UM, COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE THE DASHBOARD THAT'S PUT UP.
UM, WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM EACH OF THESE AREAS AVAILABLE TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
UM, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT, UM, UNDER TREES ADOPTED, WE'VE EXCEEDED OUR GOAL, BUT TREES PLANTED.
I DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT, UM, WE ARE BEHIND OUR GOAL DUE TO INCLEMENT WEATHER, BUT ALSO DUE TO THE AVAILABILITY OF TREES.
UM, THERE, THERE HAS BEEN A SHORTAGE OF TREES SINCE WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET THEM IN.
WE DO HAVE TWO BIG PLANTINGS SCHEDULED FOR MAY AND JUNE, AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO REACH ABOUT 85% OF OUR GOAL BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER.
UM, WE ARE AT OUR GOAL FOR THE UNDER ONE ROOF PROGRAM.
UM, COMMERCIAL PERMITS, UM, WE'RE ON TARGET AS WELL AS BUILDING PERMITS.
AND THEN MILES A SIDEWALK THAT'S 34%, BUT THERE ARE PROJECTS SCHEDULED BETWEEN NOW AND OCTOBER ONE THAT WILL ALLOW US TO, TO REACH OUR GOAL.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S THE BACKUP FOR EACH OF THOSE ITEMS YOU ALL REQUESTED.
IT IS PRESENTED BY COUNCIL DISTRICT, UM, FOR EACH CATEGORY.
UM, BUT AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE DO HAVE, UM, STAFF HERE TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE MICHAEL SHANNON WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
UM, WE HAVE, UM, ANTHONY
UM, SO WE'RE ABLE TO ANSWER NEW QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
UM, SO ON THE, ON THE 14.26 MILES OF SIDEWALK COMPLETED, UH, OUT OF THE 45, UM, THAT, THAT'S A GOOD STATISTIC TO, TO KEEP, UH, MEASURING ON THIS DASHBOARD.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO ASK, UM, IS THAT MAYBE, UH, BECAUSE THIS IS A, A MUCH BIGGER CONVERSATION, BUT SINCE ANTHONY IS ON ON THE CALL, UH, MAYBE AT OUR NEXT MEETING, WE TALK ABOUT
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ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE'RE DOING MORE AND MORE SIDEWALK, INCLUDING THE, THE SIDEWALK RECONSTRUCTION PROGRAM AND HOW IT WORKS AND HOW WE CAN COMMUNICATE THAT WIDELY, UH, TO FOLKS SO THAT WE CAN REALLY GET THAT, UH, ESTABLISHED AND ROLLING THROUGHOUT THE CITY.UM, WITH REGARDS TO DEMOLITIONS, UH, IS IT ACCURATE TO SAY THAT OUT OF THE 199 DEMOLITION PERMITS FILED SINCE OCTOBER, THAT 26 HAVE RESULTED IN ACTUAL DEMOLITIONS? MIKE SHANNON, ARE YOU ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT QUESTION? YEAH.
UH, COUNCILMAN, UH, WE'VE HAD, UM, 26 TOTAL DEMOLITIONS BY THE CITY.
THE, THE, THE, UH, LARGER NUMBER IS TOTAL DEMOLITIONS, AND THOSE INCLUDE, UH, YOU KNOW, A, A BUILDING OWNER OR A PROPERTY OWNER THAT VOLUNTARILY WISHES TO DEMOLISH THEIR BUILDING POSSIBLY FOR A NEW DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THE 26 DEMOLITIONS BY THE CITY, UM, HAVE HAPPENED.
UH, 15 OF THOSE WERE EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS, YOU KNOW, A FIRE.
UH, WE HAD A HOU, WE HAD A HOUSE THAT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY DAMAGED TO THE POINT, UM, BY A VEHICLE ACCIDENT.
UH, WE, WE ALSO HAD 10, UM, OF THOSE 26 WERE VOLUNTARY BY THE OWNER WHERE THEY ASKED THE CITY TO DO IT INSTEAD OF THEM DOING IT.
AND THEN WE WOULD PUT THEM ON A PAYMENT PLAN, UH, TO PAY FOR THAT SERVICE.
SO, UH, 26 DID, DID GET DEMOLISHED BY THE CITY, BUT AGAIN, UH, THOSE WERE EMERGENCY AND VOLUNTARY BY THE OWNER.
UH, AND WITH REGARDS TO EVICTIONS, HOW MANY DEFAULT JUDGMENTS AND HOW MANY JUDGMENTS FOR THE PLAINTIFF HAVE BEEN ISSUED SINCE OCTOBER 1ST? UH, COUNCILMAN OKAY.
UH, WE CAN GET YOU THAT INFORMATION, UH, AS OF OCTOBER 1ST.
SO JUST TAKE US A FEW MINUTES THROUGH THIS MEETING.
WE CAN, UH, POP BACK IN WITH IT.
ON THE, UH, RESETS AND DISMISSALS THAT THE CORE TEAM HAS TRACKED SINCE JUNE.
UM, AND I JUST WANNA SAY, I, I, I REALLY WANNA, UH, MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT HOW, HOW IT'S NICE TO SEE ROBUST CALENDAR OF EVENTS.
THIS IS MORE JUST ON THE, ON THE LAYOUT.
UM, IF YOU CAN MAKE THE GRAPHICS A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, BECAUSE I'VE GOT MY GLASSES ON AND I CAN STILL BARELY SEE A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION ON THE SCREEN.
SO I THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF BLUE SPACE TO, TO, UH, MAY MAYBE INCREASE THE FONT SIZE.
AND, UM, AND SOME OF THAT INFO, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S JUST A LITTLE SMALL, BUT, BUT OTHERWISE, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THIS DASHBOARD.
UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, VRAN.
UH, THANK YOU FOR HAVING THIS DASHBOARD AVAILABLE.
I WANTED TO GO A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THE, UM, UNDER ONE ROOF OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB AND THE BACKUP INFORMATION.
ON SLIDE NUMBER FIVE, FOR THE F Y 2021 OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB, THERE WERE 67 FUNDED PROJECTS AND YOU HAD PROJECTS IN GREEN, WHICH ARE IN PROGRESS AND PROJECTS IN BLUE, WHICH ARE IN THE PIPELINE.
AND THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE PIPELINE ARE PENDING PROGRAM QUALIFICATION, COMPLETION TITLE, CLEARANCE, INSURANCE VERIFICATION, ET CETERA.
CAN YOU TELL ME HOW LONG IS, HOW LONG ARE THEY IMPEND? WHAT IS THE AVERAGE TIME THAT THESE PROJECTS ARE PENDING? SURE.
UM, GOOD MORNING, VERONICA SOTO WITH NEIGHBORHOOD AND HEALTH AND SERVICES.
THESE ITEMS, UM, THE LENGTH OF TIME VARIES BY HOW QUICKLY THE CLIENT GETS BACK THE INFORMATION TO US.
UM, SO SOMETIMES CLIENTS, UM, WITHIN A WEEK CAN GET US INFORMATION.
WE TYPICALLY ASK FOR THEM TO TAKE TWO WEEKS TO GET US ALL THE INFORMATION FOR THE TITLE CLEARANCE.
UH, IT TAKES US THREE DAYS TO GET THE INFORMATION.
THIS IS TO CONFIRM THE OWNERSHIP.
UM, IT IS INDEED THE, THE OWNER THAT THERE'S NO TITLE ISSUES, NO OUTSTANDING DEEDS, UM, THAT WOULD CLOUD, UH, WHAT WE INVEST.
AND SO ONCE WE GET TO A CLIENT AND THEY DO HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, TAKES US ON AVERAGE TWO WEEKS.
SOME CLIENTS DO TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
BUT ON AVERAGE, I WOULD SAY TWO WEEKS, WE TRY AND, AND QUALIFY PEOPLE EVERY MONTH SO THAT WE CAN START THE WORK.
UM, WE DON'T QUALIFY EVERYONE AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SCHEDULE THE WORK, UM, TO COME IN TRANCHES, IF YOU WILL.
BUT ONCE WE GET A CLIENT TO FINALIZE ALL THEIR PAPERWORK, WE AVERAGE ABOUT TWO WEEKS.
AND WHAT IF THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET THEIR TITLE CLEARANCE?
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DO WE SEND THEM IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION? DO WE GIVE THEM HELP? UM, HOW DO WE, UM, SEND THEM TO OUR DELEGATE AGENCIES OR OUR PARTNERS OR OUR FOR HOUSING, UH, TEAM? YES.SO THE TITLE CLEARANCE IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING WE DO THROUGH A THIRD PARTY.
IT'S, UM, IT'S, UH, SOMETHING THAT THE CLIENT DOESN'T HAVE TO GIVE US.
SO THEY HAVE TO GIVE US THEIR INFORMATION AND THEIR ID DOCUMENTS.
UM, AND SO WE ARE THE ONES THAT RUN TITLE CLEARANCE WITH EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU KNOW, THE INSURANCE, THEY DO HAVE TO PROVIDE, WE VERIFY THAT THEY HAVE THE INSURANCE CALL INSURANCE COMPANY, BUT THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE US, UM, THE INSURANCE THEY HAVE FOR THEIR HOME.
UM, SOMETIMES WE NEED TO JUST CONFIRM HOW MANY FAMILY MEMBERS ARE IN THE HOME AND THE INCOME FOR THOSE, UM, ADDITIONAL HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS.
SO THAT'S ALL INFORMATION THE CLIENT PROVIDES.
BUT WE HAVE HOUSING LOAN COORDINATORS.
WE HAVE THREE ON STAFF WHOSE JOB IT IS TO ASSIST AND WALK THROUGH ALL THE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED.
WE HAVE SAMPLES WE CAN SHOW THE CLIENTS.
SO WE WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS NEEDED, WHY IT'S NEEDED, AND WHAT THE PURPOSE IS.
SO, SO WE DO WALK 'EM THROUGH.
AND AGAIN, THE TITLE CLEARANCE ONLY AFTER WE GET THE INSURANCE AND THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE, THE HOUSE AND THE IDS, DO WE RUN THE, THE REPORT FOR THE TITLE CLEARANCE.
UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE LAST STEPS.
IT IS AN ONGOING CONVERSATION, BUT OUR STAFF IS VERY DILIGENT AND VERY HELPFUL TO THE CLIENTS THAT ARE ALREADY SELECTED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM.
SO WE, WE DON'T LEAVE THEM WITHOUT RESOURCES.
AND SO THAT SHOULD NOT BE A, A HINDRANCE TO ANYONE, UH, TO MAKE THEM NOT JOIN THIS, THIS PROGRAM.
UM, LORI, I THINK BECAUSE I, I WANNA STAY WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I'M GONNA TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT, A BIT LATER OFFLINE ABOUT PROP A AND OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB, ET CETERA, FOR THE BOND IN THE FUTURE.
UM, AND THEN BECAUSE ANTHONY IS ON THE LINE AND I NEVER GET TO TALK TO ANTHONY, UM, SO FOR SIDEWALKS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING THIS IN HERE AND FOR, FOR WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT HERE.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS ANTHONY, UM, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON THIS DASHBOARD IS IF WE CAN ALSO INCLUDE, JUST LIKE WE HAVE WITH THE CUMULATIVE FROM APRIL OR FROM OCTOBER TO APRIL, ET CETERA, HOW MANY MILES OR HOW MUCH OF SIDEWALKS HAVE WE DONE IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICTS AS WELL? IF YOU CAN PROVIDE THAT A BREAKDOWN AS BACKUP, JUST LIKE YOU DO FOR ALL OF THE OTHERS, LIKE DEMOLITION, PERMITS, COMMERCIAL PERMITS, I'D REALLY LOVE TO, UH, IT WOULD REALLY BE HELPFUL FOR ALL OF US.
UH, AND, AND, UH, SOME, SOME GOOD POINTS ON ON THE RESPONSE.
UH, ONE, ONE THING THAT I WOULD ADD TO THAT, THAT I KNOW IS VERY IMPORTANT HAD TO DO WITH, UH, PEOPLE, UH, QUALIFYING, UH, BECAUSE OF, OR NOT QUALIFYING BECAUSE A OF PROPERTY TAXES.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT, UH, THE, THE TAX ASSESSOR, ALBERT ESTE HAD WORKED OUT A, A, A GREAT SYSTEM.
UH, HAVE YOU ALL BEEN WORKING WITH MR. ESTE, UH, ON CLEARING UP SOME OF THESE ISSUES? HAVE YOU SEEN MANY MORE OF THESE ISSUES? 'CAUSE I I KNOW THERE'S STILL A LOT OF FOLKS WHO ARE CONCERNED THAT, UH, THAT IF THEY'RE BEHIND ON THEIR PROPERTY TAXES, THAT, THAT THEY ARE, ARE GONNA NOT QUALIFIED FOR THE UNDER ONE ROOF PROGRAM.
I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS OF HOW MANY FOLKS HAVE HAD ISSUES WITH THAT.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, IN OUR PROGRAM, WE DO ALLOW IF SOMEONE HAS A PAYMENT PLAN THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED, EVEN IF THEY ARE BEHIND AND THEY STILL CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM.
SO WE ACCEPT THE PAYMENT PLANS THAT MR. RODINE HAS IN PLACE, UM, AS, YOU KNOW, NOT BEING BEHIND.
AND SO EVEN FOLKS WHO ARE BEHIND BUT HAVE A PAYMENT PLAN CAN, UM, BE HELPED THROUGH THE UNDER ONE ROOF PROGRAM.
SO SINCE WE PUT THAT POLICY IN PLACE A COUPLE YEARS AGO, WE HAVEN'T HAD AS MANY ISSUES.
BUT I'LL DOUBLE CHECK WITH THE TEAM AND SEE IF ANYONE HAS HAD ISSUES WITH THAT.
BECAUSE IT'S, IT IS NOT JUST A PAYMENT PLAN.
I THINK WHAT, WHAT ALBU ESTE CAME UP WITH WAS ALSO A DEFERMENT, AND THAT DEFERMENT IS, IS PROBABLY THE MOST HELPFUL, UH, TO GET THEM BACK ON TRACK.
SO, UM, IF, IF WE COULD JUST, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALSO GUIDING FOLKS OVER TO MR. ORESTEE'S OFFICE TO GET THAT CLEARED UP.
WE'LL GO ON TO COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE.
UH, CAN WE GO BACK TO THE DASHBOARD FIRST PAGE?
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UM, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF ITEMS ON THERE THAT I, I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT.UH, ONE OF 'EM IS, YOU KNOW, THE COMMERCIAL PERMITS ISSUED, UH, THAT'S HERE TO DATE.
WE HAD AN ESTIMATE, I THINK 2,760 AND MIKE, WAS THAT AN ESTIMATE BASED ON WHAT WE THINK WAS GOING TO BE A DOWN YEAR BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC? OR WAS THAT BASED ON THE AVERAGE OF YEARS THAT, UH, THAT WE'VE HAD PERMITS ISSUED? UH, WELL, THIS TIME LAST YEAR, WE ACTUALLY HAD PREDICTED A LITTLE BIT OF A DIP IN, UM, BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL PERMITS.
UH, ACTUALLY WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS ACTUALLY NO REAL DIP, BUT JUST A TINY IN COMMERCIAL.
BUT WE'VE HAD SOME BIG PROJECTS.
UM, SO I, I CALL IT ABOUT EVEN ON, ON COMMERCIAL.
UH, IT RESIDENTIAL THOUGH HAS BEEN A LOT STRONGER THAN WE, UH, ANTICIPATED IN TERMS OF NEW RESIDENTIAL PERMITS.
AND, UM, SO WE REALLY DIDN'T SEE THE DIP THAT WE THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA, WE, WE, WE WEREN'T SURE IT WAS GONNA BE ANOTHER RECESSION LIKE OH EIGHT MM-HMM.
UM, WE THOUGHT THAT MIGHT BE THE CASE, BUT IT HASN'T, UH, HASN'T MATERIALIZED LIKE THAT.
SO YOU'D SAY THE GOAL AND ESTIMATE WE HAVE LISTED WAS BASED ON AVERAGE THAT WE PREDICTED BASED ON A NORMAL ECONOMY, AND WE'VE ACHIEVED 47% OF THAT? YEAH, I, I, I, SHOULD I, I'LL GO BACK TO MY NUMBERS.
IT WAS, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT LOWER.
IT WASN'T AS SIGNIFICANT IN COMMERCIAL.
WE THOUGHT THE RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE A BIG DIP, BUT, UM, SO, UH, I CAN GET THE EXACT NUMBER FOR YOU, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS ABOUT AN AVERAGE NUMBER.
I GUESS I JUST, I'M JUST BEING OPTIMISTIC THAT WE REALLY HAVEN'T SEEN AS BIG OF A DIP IN COMMERCIAL, WHICH WOULD'VE HAD, UH, A PRETTY BIG IMPACT ON OUR TAX BASE.
UH, ANOTHER THING IS THE DEMOLITION PERMITS ISSUED.
UH, IS, IS THAT PRETTY AVERAGE FOR, UH, THIS PART OF A YEAR? I, I WOULD SAY YES.
UM, UH, LET ME, LET ME, LET ME, UH, CAVEAT THAT THE DEMOLITION PERMITS THAT ARE NOT RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES PROCESS OR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS, IF AN OWNER WANTS TO REDEVELOP THEIR LAND, THE COMMERCIAL OWNER, THEY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, DEMOLISH AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL BUILDING AND BUILD A NEW ONE.
THOSE NUMBERS ARE VERY AVERAGE RIGHT NOW.
UHHUH,
THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DEMOLITIONS, UH, THROUGH THE BUILDING STANDARDS FOR US, THOSE ARE ON PAUSE, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE, UH, THE, THE STATE, UM, UH, A SUPREME COURT THAT HAS THAT ON PAUSE, UH, RIGHT NOW THROUGH AT LEAST JUNE ONE.
UH, SO THOSE ARE ALMOST NIL, RIGHT? UM, BUT, UH, BUT THE OTHER ONES ARE AVERAGE.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW, UH, SOMEONE ELSE CAN HELP ME WITH, UH, MEALS SERVED AT SENIOR CENTERS.
UH, YOU KNOW, HOW CLOSE TO THE AVERAGE, UH, THAT WE USUALLY SERVE WHEN OUR SENIOR CENTERS ARE OPEN REGULARLY ALL THE YEAR LONG.
THIS 447,000 PLUS, HOW CLOSE IS THAT TO THE AVERAGE OF WHAT WE'VE SERVED THROUGH THIS TIME OF THE YEAR? UM, COUNCILMAN, IT'S ACTUALLY MORE THAN, UM, WE HAD USUALLY SERVED BECAUSE WE ACCEPTED, UM, YOU KNOW, NEW MEMBERS, SENIORS WHO ARE IDENTIFIED AS NEEDING ADDITIONAL FOOD.
AND BECAUSE WE'RE DOING IT THROUGH, UM, THE DRIVE THROUGH, UH, PEOPLE ARE PICKING UP MORE MEALS.
SO WHERE THEY MIGHT'VE COME TO THE CENTER A COUPLE OF TIMES A WEEK, THEY MIGHT BE PICKING UP FIVE MEALS NOW, BUT I'LL GET YOU, UM, I'LL HAVE TO GET YOU THE NUMBER, YOU KNOW, THE PERCENT OVER THAT WE'RE SERVING.
AND, AND WHAT IS THAT DOING TO OUR BUDGET IN THIS AREA? HAVE WE, UH, PROVIDED ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR MEALS THROUGH, UH, THE COVID RELIEF? WE HAD RECEIVED SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING THROUGH CARES ACT FOR, UM, SENIOR MEALS, AND THEN, UM, IT, IT WE'RE, WE'RE HOLDING PRETTY STEADY.
SO WE'RE, IT'S, IT'S NOT SO MUCH THAT IT'S, IT'S, UH, CAUSING ANY PROBLEM WITH OUR BUDGET.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD.
WELL, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THIS, UH, DASHBOARD UPDATE.
I THINK IT'S, IT'S VERY HELPFUL AND, UM, LOOK FORWARD TO, UM, TO SEEING THIS AT OUR NEXT MEETING AS WELL.
[3. 21-3313 Emergency Housing Assistance Program (EHAP) and Center for Disease Control (CDC) Moratorium Update [Lori Houston, Assistant City Manager, Verónica R. Soto, FAICP, Director, Neighborhood & Housing Services]]
NOW TO, UH, THE EMERGENCY HOUSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL MORATORIUM UPDATE.COUNCIL MEMBER, I'M GOING TO HAND THIS OVER TO VERONICA SOTO, WHO WILL OPEN IT UP AND
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PROBABLY HAND IT OVER TO EDWARD GONZALEZ OR IAN BENAVIDEZ.UM, I AM ACTUALLY GONNA ASK EDWARD GONZALEZ, ONE OF OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTORS TO WALK US THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION.
SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO EDWARD.
THANK YOU, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
UH, MY NAME IS EDWARD GONZALEZ.
I'M THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
SO, AS WAY OF BACKGROUND, UH, THE EMERGENCY HOUSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM WAS CREATED AND APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL ON APRIL 23RD, 2020.
THIS IS ACTUALLY, WE'RE, UH, ONE YEAR INTO THE PROGRAM A LITTLE BIT OVER ONE YEAR INTO THE PROGRAM.
UH, ON APRIL, WE, UH, ON THE 23RD, WHICH WAS LAST FRIDAY, UH, WE, WE COMPLETED THAT ONE YEAR RESPONSE TO COVID PANDEMIC.
IN TERMS OF ELIGIBILITY, THE PROGRAM IS, UH, HAS SOME ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
IN ORDER TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS PROGRAM, RE YOU HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND OR BEXAR COUNTY.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE AND DEMONSTRATE A COVID 19 HARDSHIP, AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE 80% ME MAKING 80% OF THE AREA MEDIA INCOME OR BELOW.
NOW, WHAT THAT MEANS, UH, I LIKE TO PUT SOME NUMBERS TO THAT.
SO, FOR A FAMILY OF ONE, IT'S, UH, A SINGLE PERSON IN WOULD BE MAKING AN ANNUAL SALARY OF ABOUT $40,000, UH, A YEAR, A FAMILY OF FOUR, THAT'S RIGHT AT $57,600.
SO THAT GIVES YOU A RANGE OF WHAT, 80% OF A M I FOR A FAMILY OF ONE AND TWO, A FIA FOUR.
UH, THE ASSISTANCE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING AS PART OF THE PROGRAM, PROVIDING RENTAL ASSISTANCE, MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE, UTILITY ASSISTANCE IN THE FORM OF C P SS, ENERGY AND SALT WATER ASSISTANCE.
AND WE'RE ALSO PROVIDING INTERNET ASSISTANCE FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE, UM, THAT QUALIFY FOR OUR PROGRAM, AN ADDED BENEFIT TO THE PROGRAM.
WE'RE ALSO PROVIDING, UH, RESEARCH AND REFERRAL BENEFITS TO LOCAL, STATE, AND FEDERAL BENEFITS THAT ARE PROVIDED THROUGH THE COMMUNITY, THROUGH OUR DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES.
NOW, THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF THE EAB DASHBOARD.
THIS DASHBOARD IS PROVIDED, IT WAS PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKET.
IT'S ALSO PROVIDED AND UPDATED DAILY.
SO THIS NUMBER, UH, LET ME GO THROUGH THIS, UH, RATHER QUICKLY.
SO YOU SEE HERE THAT SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE PROGRAM, AND SINCE INCEPTION ON APRIL 23RD, 2020, THE, THE TEAM HAS PROCESSED OVER 57,000 APPLICATIONS FOR ASSISTANCE.
OF THOSE 57,000 APPLICATIONS, 34,193 HOUSEHOLDS HAVE BEEN, UH, APPROVED FOR ASSISTANCE.
AND AS OF THE, THESE NUMBERS ARE AS OF APRIL 30TH, WHICH WAS LAST, THIS PAST FRIDAY, UH, WE'VE APPROVED A TOTAL OF $93.2 MILLION, UH, 93.1, UH, EX 0.2, EXACTLY.
OF THOSE, THE MAJORITY OF THE FUNDS HAVE GONE TO RENTAL AND OR MORTGAGE PAYMENTS WITH $76.3 MILLION.
GOING TO THAT, THE AVERAGE, UH, THE BREAKDOWN OF THAT IS ABOUT 85% OF OUR RESIDENTS AND ASSISTANCE, UH, IS GOING TO RENTAL, UH, RENTAL, UH, RESIDENTS WITH THE REMAINING 15% GOING TO MORTGAGE, UH, HOLDERS IN, IN THE AREA OF C UH, UTILITIES, WE PROVIDED $7.3 MILLION IN C P S ASSISTANCE, $1.2 MILLION IN SALT WATER ASSISTANCE, $335,000 IN INTERNET ASSISTANCE, AND, UH, $8 MILLION IN DIRECT CASH ASSISTANCE FOR INDIVIDUALS.
SO THE TOTAL OF THOSE 34,193 HOUSEHOLDS, THERE'S 91,000 PEOPLE THAT ARE PART OF THOSE HOUSEHOLDS.
THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD SIZES, UH, FOR AN APPLICANT IS AROUND THREE PEOPLE.
UH, THE AVERAGE ASSISTANCE PER PERSON, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, INDIVIDUALS, UH, WITHIN EACH OF THOSE HOUSEHOLDS, IS RIGHT AT A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND THE AVERAGE ASSISTANCE PER HOUSEHOLD IS RIGHT AT 27, UH, HUNDRED DOLLARS AND 25 CENTS.
SO, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS A BREAKDOWN BY COUNCIL DISTRICT.
UH, THIS SHOWS THE 34,193 HOU APPROVED HOUSEHOLDS WITH THE $93.12 MILLION OF ASSISTANCE.
YOU SEE THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD SIZE, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE, FOR EACH OF THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS WITH THE AVERAGE A M I.
I'LL TELL YOU THAT OUR AVERAGE A M I, UH, AS A WHOLE IS, IS RIGHT AT LESS THAN 30% OF A M I
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FOR EVERYONE, UH, ALL OF THOSE 34,000 HOUSEHOLDS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED.YOU ALSO SEE THAT THE DISTRIBUTION OF FUNDS I IS, UH, IS EVERYWHERE WITHIN THE CITY.
WE STARTED, UM, IN, IN, IN JANUARY OF, UH, 2021, WE GOT COUNCIL APPROVAL TO START ACCEPTING AND PROVIDING ASSISTANCE FOR COUNTY RESIDENTS.
SO YOU SEE THE COUNTY, COUNTY HERE, UH, ASSISTANCE LEVELS RIGHT AT $2.11 MILLION, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE OTHERS, BECAUSE WE, WE, WE MOST RECENTLY STARTED THAT, AND WE HAVEN'T, WE DIDN'T START THE ASSISTANCE FOR THE COUNTY UNTIL JANUARY OF 2021.
SO, THIS CHART HERE SHOWS THE TOTAL EAP BUDGET OF $133.6 MILLION, 93.2 MILLION OF WHICH HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO, UH, AS IN THE FORM OF DIRECT CASH ASSISTANCE, UH, 40 POINT, WHICH LEAVES $40.4 MILLION REMAINING IN OUR BUDGET FOR, UH, ASSISTANCE FOR RESIDENTS THAT APPLY TO THE PROGRAM.
SO, I MENTIONED THAT WE BEGAN TO ASSIST COUNTY RESIDENTS OR RESIDENTS LIVING OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO LIMITS, BUT WITHIN THE BEXAR COUNTY IN, UH, JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.
SO WE STARTED, AND WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT WITH, UH, ALLOCATIONS FROM THE COUNTY IN TWO FORMS. SO WE HAD OUR ALLOCATION THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR THESE RESIDENTS FROM THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT HOUSING COMMUNITY AFFAIRS THROUGH THEIR TEXAS EMERGENCY RE, UH, RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
WE, THAT FUNDING WAS PASSED TO THE CITY, UH, IN THE FORM OF $645,000.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE COUNTY, UH, PROVIDED $1.5 MILLION IN ASSISTANCE FROM THEIR GENERAL FUND FOR THESE RESIDENTS MAKING THE CURRENT ALLOCATION FOR COUNTY RESIDENTS LIVING OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WITHIN THE BEAR COUNTY LIMITS AT $2.1 MILLION.
SO WE HAVE FULLY SPENT THAT $2.1 MILLION AS OF TODAY.
UH, SO WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE COUNTY TO ACCEPT AN ADDITIONAL $5 MILLION IN US TREASURY FUNDS THAT THEY RECEIVED.
THE COUNTY ACTUALLY RECEIVED, UH, EARLIER THIS YEAR.
SO THROUGH THAT $5 MILLION THAT WILL BRING OUR TOTAL ALLOCATION FOR, UH, COUNTY RESIDENCE IS $7.1 MILLION.
NOW, WE ANTICIPATE, UH, GOING TO COUNCIL, UH, THIS MONTH FOR ACCEPTANCE OF THOSE FUNDS.
UH, IF NOT, WE'LL DEFINITELY BE THERE AT THE FIRST MEETING IN, IN JUNE.
UH, GO BACK ONE, PLEASE, ROGER.
SO THIS IS THE, UH, I WANTED TO SHOW THE BREAKDOWN OF THE, OF THE $133.6 MILLION, IF WE WERE TO ACCEPT, OR WHEN WE ACCEPT THIS ADDITIONAL $5 MILLION, THAT WILL INCREASE OUR PHASE FOUR BUDGET, WHICH WE'RE CURRENTLY INTO $51.8 MILLION, AND WE'LL INCREASE THE OVERALL EAP BUDGET FROM 133.6 TO $138.6 MILLION.
NOW, IN TERMS OF, UH, AVERAGE ASSISTANCE PER HOUSEHOLD, WE, I DID GIVE A FIGURE OVER TIME, AND SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE PROGRAM, IT'S RIGHT AT $2,500, UH, ARE PROGRAMMED TODAY, $2,700.
AND THAT CHANGES EVERY DAY BASED ON, ON THE NUMBER OF, UH, APPLICATIONS AND THE ASSISTANCE APPROVED.
BUT AS OF FROM FEBRUARY 19TH, WHEN WE INCREASED THE ALLOWANCES AND INCREASE THE MONTH, UH, THE ELIGIBLE, UH, MONTHS OF ASSISTANCE FROM THAT DATE TO APRIL 26TH, WE HAVE SEEN AN INCREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF AVERAGE ASSISTANCE PER HOUSEHOLD.
AND IT'S CURRENTLY, FOR THE LAST TWO MONTHS, HAS BEEN HOLDING TRUE AT ABOUT $4,100 PER HOUSEHOLD.
THIS GRAPHIC HERE REALLY SHOWS THE ASSISTANCE APPROVED PER WEEK FOR THE LAST TWO MONTHS.
UH, WE ARE AVERAGING, WE, WE HAVE HAVE SEEN A STEADY INCLINE FOR SEVERAL OF THE WEEKS AFTER, UH, OUR APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE EXPAND ELIGIBILITY AND ASSISTANCE AMOUNTS.
I ANTICIPATE, UH, WE'RE GONNA LEVEL OUT, UH, AS OF THIS, PROBABLY THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS WE'VE BEEN LEVELING OUT, AND I ANTICIPATE THAT THE MONTH, THE WEEKLY ASSISTANCE WILL BE AROUND 2.1 TO $2.5 MILLION.
NOW, THERE'S SEVERAL FACTORS THAT THAT INFLUENCE THAT.
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IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF, UH, OF APPLICATIONS THAT ARE COMING IN, UM, TO US FOR ASSISTANCE.THE OTHER IS THE, THE NUMBER OF ARREARS THAT WE'RE SEEING WITH FOLKS THAT ARE APPLYING FOR ASSISTANCE AND THE NUMBER OF MONTHS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO BRING THEM UP TO DATE.
SO I THINK, AND I ANTICIPATE THAT THIS NUMBER WILL STAY TRUE TO ABOUT, IN THAT 2.2 TO $2.5 MILLION RANGE, UH, PER WEEK.
NOW, WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT GETS US FUNDING, OR THAT ALLOWS US TO HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING, UH, FOR THE PROGRAM THROUGH SEPTEMBER.
SO, WE'LL, WE'RE STILL TRACKING THAT WE WILL HAVE FUNDING THROUGHOUT THE PROGRAM UNTIL SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
NOW, IN TERMS OF BENEFIT REFERRALS, SO, UH, WE ARE RECEIVING AND PROVIDING BENEFIT REFERRALS TO INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE SEEKING ASSISTANCE OUTSIDE OF WHAT THE PROGRAM IS CURRENTLY PROVIDING, WHICH IS RENT, MORTGAGE, AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE.
THESE, THIS IS ASSISTANCE TO, UH, FOR FOOD AS AN EXAMPLE, OR ASSISTANCE FOR TRANSPORTATION OR CHILDCARE.
SO SINCE FEBRUARY 19TH, AND WE IMPLEMENTED THIS PROGRAM IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT, WE'VE, WE'VE PROVIDED OVER 13 OR CLOSE TO 1300 REFERRALS.
NOW, REFERRALS ARE SENT WEEKLY TO OUR BENEFIT NAVIGATION TEAM, AND THE OUTCOMES ARE ACTUALLY TREMENDOUS.
THEY'RE REALLY, REALLY POSITIVE OUTCOMES.
WE ARE SEEING THAT RIGHT AT 50% OF OUR REFERRALS ARE BEING ASSISTED AND CLOSED WITHIN ONE SESSION WITH THE REMAINING 50%, TAKING TWO OR MORE SESSIONS.
UH, THAT'S REALLY GREAT OUTCOMES WHEN IT COMES TO CONNECTING INDIVIDUALS TO BENEFITS ACROSS, UH, VARIOUS AGENCIES, RIGHT? SO THAT IT'S NOT ONLY LOCAL BENEFITS, BUT THEY'RE ALSO CONNECTING FOLKS TO, TO FEDERAL BENEFITS THAT THEY MAY NOT BE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF OR RESIDENTS ARE NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF.
THE I THIS NUMBER HERE IS THAT 40% OF THE, THOSE RECEIVING HEALTH ARE COMPLETING WITHIN ONE, ARE COMPLETING OR TAKING ADVANTAGE OF ONE OR MORE SOCIAL SERVICES APPLICATIONS.
THAT NUMBER, I THINK, IS, IS BEEN LINING, AND I THINK WE'RE CLOSER TO 50% OR ABOVE 50% NOW, AND THEN 38% ARE RECEIVING FINANCIAL COUNSELING.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE SEEING, UH, AN INCREASE IN.
AND IN TERMS OF THE REQUESTS THAT PEOPLE ARE WANTING TO, TO, TO GET INFORMATION AND EXPERTISE AND COUNSELING ON, HOW DO THEY MANAGE THEIR BUDGET, GIVING THEIR NEW INCOME, WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE GETTING BACK, ARE GETTING BACK TO WORK, AND THOSE WAGES IN THEIR BACK TO WORK IS NOT EXACTLY THE SAME AS WHAT THEY WERE MAKING PRE PANDEMIC.
SO THAT FINANCIAL COUNSELING RESOURCE IS, UH, VERY BENEFICIAL TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
SO I'M GONNA SWITCH GEARS A LITTLE BIT AND TALK ABOUT THE C D C MORATORIUM AT OUR LAST, AND MY LAST PRESENTATION LAST MONTH.
UH, WE DID TALK ABOUT THE EXTENSION OF THE C D C MORATORIUM THROUGH JUNE 30TH, BUT THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT'S 34TH EMERGENCY ORDER, UH, DID EXPIRE ON APRIL 1ST, AND, AND IT HAS NOT BEEN EXTENDED, BUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR, UH, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND BEXAR COUNTY RESIDENTS? SO, THE 34TH EMERGENCY ORDER REALLY DIRECTS THE PROTOCOL FOR ENFORCING THE C D C ACROSS THE STATE, RIGHT? SO THAT THIS IS FOR, UH, ALL OF THE, UH, UH, JPS ACROSS THE STATE TAKE DIRECTION FROM THIS 34TH ORDER, WHICH ALLOWED, UH, THEM TO DELAY CASES PROVIDED, GAVE 'EM SOME GUIDANCE AROUND PROVIDING THE C D D C DECLARATION FORMS AND HOW THAT WAS HAPPENING.
NOW, THE EXPIRATION OF THE ORDER, WHICH WAS IN APRIL 1ST, REALLY LEFT THE ENFORCEMENT TO INDIVIDUAL J JP COURTS OR FEDERAL AGENCIES LOCALLY HERE IN, UH, BEXAR COUNTY.
THE JP COURTS COULD COLLECTIVELY ISSUED A LETTER, UH, UH, ON EARLY IN, IN EARLY APRIL ON THE SEVENTH, STATING THAT THERE WILL BE NO CHANGES, UH, TO THROUGH JUNE 30TH.
SO, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE COURTS IN PRACTICE IS REALLY WHAT WE'VE SEEN, UH, PRE, UH, THROUGHOUT THE PANDEMIC IN TERMS OF WHEN THE C D C MORATORIUM STARTED.
UH, SO WE HAVE OUR, OUR COURTS TEAM THAT'S THERE IN THE COURTS, AND REALLY NOTHING HAS CHANGED WITHIN OUR JP COURTS.
THEY'RE CONTINUING TO PROVIDE AND HONOR THE C D C DECLARATION.
UH, OUR TEAM IS CONSIDER, UH, CONTINUING TO PROVIDE RESOURCES TO BOTH EAP AND OUR TEXAS RENTAL EMERGENCY, UH, THE, THE TEXAS RED RELIEF PROGRAM THAT THE STATE IS ADMINISTERING AND ENROLLING THEM IN THAT DIVERSION PROGRAM FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT QUALIFY AND ACCEPT THE, THE ENROLLMENT INTO THE PROGRAM.
SO, ALL IN ALL, THIS MEANS THAT BEAR COUNTY RESIDENTS CAN STILL CONTINUE TO USE THE D THE C D C DECLARATION
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TO AVOID EVICTION FOR NON-PAYMENT OF RENT THROUGH JUNE 30TH, AT LEAST JUNE 30TH OF, OF THIS YEAR.NOW, WE ARE STILL SEEING, UM, EVICTION FILINGS FOR THINGS OTHER THAN NON-PAYMENT OR RENT.
AND OUR COURT, OUR COURTS TEAM IS THERE TO, TO VERIFY THAT IF THEY, IF THEY NEED ASSISTANCE, THEN WE CAN HELP THEM.
SO, IN TERMS OF EVICTION FILINGS, UH, THE COURT CLOSURES AND MORE TERMS HAVE REDUCED THE NUMBER OF FILINGS AS COMPARED TO EARLY 2020 AND 2019.
UH, AS A, AS A, AS A, AS A WAY OF A, UH, BACKGROUND, THERE WERE 9,520 FILINGS IN 2020, COMPARED TO OVER 21,000 FILINGS IN 2019.
SO FAR IN 2021, WE'VE SEEN, UH, TWENTY THREE HUNDRED AND TWENTY ONE FILINGS THROUGH APRIL.
UH, AND THIS DATA IS AS OF APRIL 26TH.
SO YOU MAY SEE A COUPLE MORE, UH, CASES FILED, UH, WHEN WE PROVIDE THE, UH, MAY UPDATE.
SO, BUT THIS NUMBER IS, IS REALLY CLOSE TO WHAT IT'S GONNA BE FINALIZED FOR THE END OF APRIL.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
UH, CHAIRMAN, I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
UH, I'LL GO AHEAD AND, AND START WITH COUNCIL DISCUSSION.
UM, I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO, UM, THE, UH, THE CHART THAT SHOWED, UH, HOW MANY PEOPLE WE'VE HELPED.
I BELIEVE, UH, THAT WAS A FAIRLY HIGH NUMBER IN THE 30,000 RANGE.
WHAT WAS THAT WITH, UH, EAP? YEAH, SLIDE TWO.
UH, YEAH, WE, WE APPROVED, WHICH MEANS WE'RE ABLE TO ASSIST 34,000 PEOPLE, BUT, UH, I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE NEARLY 23,000 THAT WE DENIED.
NOW, I'M SURE PART OF THAT WAS BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT HAVE QUALIFIED UNDER EITHER THE FEDERAL GUIDELINES THAT WE HAD TO USE OR EVEN SOME OF OUR OWN GUIDELINES.
BUT DO WE KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE 23,000 WE WERE ABLE TO REFER TO ANOTHER AGENCY OR OPPORTUNITY TO GET HOUSING ASSISTANCE? YES, COUNCILMAN, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
SO OF THE 22,974 DENIALS, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE DUPLICATION APPLICATIONS, RIGHT? SO THEY ARE APPLICATIONS.
WHEN WE STARTED THE PROGRAM EARLY ON IN THE PROGRAM, WE WERE GETTING A NUMBER OF DUPLICATE APPLICATIONS FROM THE SAME INDIVIDUALS, RIGHT? SO THEY WERE IN DESPERATE, UNDERSTANDABLY, THEY WERE IN DESPERATE SITUATION.
THEY WEREN'T SURE IF THEIR APPLICATION MADE IT INTO THE SYSTEM.
SINCE THEN, WE'VE MADE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SYSTEM TO NOTIFY INDIVIDUALS, YOUR APPLICATION HAS BEEN RECEIVED.
HERE'S YOUR APPLICATION NUMBER.
ANTICIPATE THAT THIS IS THE PROCESS THAT IT'S GONNA TAKE, UH, IN, IN ORDER TO GO TO THE NEXT STEP.
AND WE'VE BUILT THAT COMMUNICATION, IMPROVED THAT COMMUNICATION.
SO EARLY ON, THERE WAS A, A LARGE NUMBER OF DUPLICATE APPLICATIONS THAT WE HAD TO DENY, AND WE KEPT AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE APPLICATIONS IN THE SYSTEM, WHICH HAS BEEN APPROVED.
SO, I'M, I'M ANOTHER, UM, REASON THAT, OR PROBABLY THE SECOND LARGEST REASON IN, IN, IN THOSE, IS THAT WE HAD A NUMBER, WE WEREN'T PROVIDING ASSISTANCE FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS WITHIN BEAR COUNTY.
'CAUSE OUR PROGRAM WAS LIMITED TO THE CITY LIMITS.
SINCE THEN, WE'VE OPENED THAT UP AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ASSIST ALL OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS AS WELL.
SO THERE WAS AROUND 4,000 OF THOSE CASES EARLY IN THE, IN THE, UH, PROCESS AS WELL.
SO IN, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER INCOME, WE'VE HAD ABOUT A THOUSAND CLIENTS THAT HAVE APPLIED THAT ARE OVER INCOME, WHICH WE WOULD SAY, UH, FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS, WE ARE PROVIDING RESOURCES TO OTHER AGENCIES WITHIN OUR PREVENTION NETWORK, UH, IN COORDINATION, SOUTH ALAMO REGIONAL ALLIANCE FOR HOMELESS.
AND THOSE REFERRALS ARE GETTING, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT OUR PARTNERS ARE TAKING, RIGHT? SO WE'RE TAKING THE MAJORITY OF THE ASSISTANCE REQUESTS FOR RENTAL AND MORTGAGE WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY.
AND THE ONES THAT ARE NOT ELIGIBLE, WE'RE REFERRING TO OUR PARTNERS, WHICH THEY HAVE ADDITIONAL FEDERAL FUNDING FOR.
WELL, I GUESS THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR.
UH, AND IT WOULD BE USEFUL TO SEE MAYBE A GREATER BREAKDOWN OF THAT NUMBER OF 22,000, ALMOST 23,000.
SO WE'RE NOT SO HORRIFIED TO THINK THAT ALL THOSE PEOPLE WENT WITHOUT HELP.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN BREAK THAT DOWN AND IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, X PERCENT WERE DUPLICATES
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AND ET CETERA, AND X PERCENT DIDN'T QUALIFY ORIGINALLY, BUT EVENTUALLY DID.SO I, I THINK THAT'LL REASSURE US THAT WE'RE REALLY BEING EVEN MUCH MORE EFFICIENT THAN WHAT YOU MIGHT PRESUME WHEN YOU JUST LOOK AT THE NUMBERS THE WAY THEY'RE LAID OUT HERE.
SO I'D JUST LIKE TO SEE THAT KIND OF INCLUDED IN THE NEXT DASHBOARD, OR AT LEAST, UH, A WAY OF, UH, GETTING TO, UH, THE BREAKDOWN OF THOSE NUMBERS.
THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD, UM, A COUPLE OF SLIDES LATER, WE SHOWED THE, THE BREAKDOWN OF THE NUMBER OF, UM, HOUSEHOLDS THAT WE'VE HELPED.
UH, AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN BRING THAT UP AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS THE NEXT SLIDE OR TWO LATER, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD ONE TO LOOK AT RIGHT HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE SAYING WE APPROVED AID TO 34,000 HOUSEHOLDS, AND I'M GLAD OF THAT.
AND I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO THAT.
IT'S NOT JUST THE FAMILY THAT WE HELPED STAY IN THEIR RESIDENCE, BUT IT'S THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WERE POSITIVELY AFFECTED BECAUSE THEY GOT THE FINANCING THEY NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THE OWNERSHIP OF THEIR PROPERTY OR BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN IT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE INCLUDED IN THIS, A BREAKDOWN OF THE NUMBER OF PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ALSO BENEFITED FROM THIS.
'CAUSE THERE'S TWO SIDES TO THAT COIN.
SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN KIND OF LOOK AT THAT AND, AND ADD THAT IN.
UH, BY ALL MEANS, WE WANNA KEEP FE PEOPLE IN THEIR HOME, BUT I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT JUST GIVING MONEY TO, UH, INDIVIDUALS WHO NEED TO PAY RENT OR BACK RENT, BUT IT'S ALSO DIRECTLY PROVIDING THAT MONEY TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS SO THAT THEY CAN SUSTAIN THEIR PROPERTY OWNERSHIP.
SO IF WE COULD START INCLUDING THAT, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE EVEN A BREAKDOWN INTO THE, UH, DISTRICTS, UH, THAT WOULD INCLUDE THAT, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S VERY USEFUL INFORMATION FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE.
UM, IT, IT IS AN ENTIRE ECOSYSTEM.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN.
THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
SO THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE, WE HAVE A LOT OF OUR FAMILIES THAT WERE SAYING THAT BECAUSE OF THE PAYMENT SYSTEM AND HOW LATE IN THE OR THE LANDLORDS WERE RECEIVING THE PAYMENT, THEY WERE STILL HAVING ISSUES WITH EVICTION.
SO, CAN YOU, UH, EXPRESS OR TELL US HOW MANY FAMILIES DID NOT RECEIVE A PAYMENT IN ENOUGH TIME TO KEEP THEM FROM BEING EVICTED? COUNCILMAN, WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION READILY AVAILABLE.
WE CAN, WE CAN DO A DEEP DIVE INTO THE DATA TO LOOK AT IT, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT, SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, UH, WE CONTACT EACH ONE OF THE LANDLORDS FOR EACH ONE OF THESE CASES.
SO WE DO NOTIFY THE LANDLORD BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GET THEIR, UM, THEIR DOCUMENTATION ON WHAT THEIR W NINE IS.
WE ALSO HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO KNOW WHAT THAT RESIDENT OWES THAT PARTICULAR LANDLORD.
SOMETIMES WHEN WE HAVE THE APPLICATION, IT DOESN'T, DOES NOT ALWAYS MATCH UP.
AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU MAY HAVE A RESIDENT THAT APPLIES FOR $1,500 OF ASSISTANCE, BUT WHEN WE GET THE LEDGER, WE'RE REQUESTING THE LEDGER FROM THE LANDLORD BECAUSE WE'RE VERIFYING ALL THE PAYMENTS FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.
BECAUSE IN, IN SOME CASES, WHEN WE WANNA MAKE SURE AND ENSURE THAT THEIR LEDGER IS CORRECT IN WHAT WE'RE PAYING THEM IS, IS EXACTLY WHAT IS OWED.
SO THAT LANDLORD AT THOSE TIMES ARE BEING MADE AWARE THAT THERE IS A SUB A SUBMISSION OF AN APPLICATION TO OUR PROGRAM, AND THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH TRYING TO, UH, ASSIST THAT AND, AND APPROVE THAT APPLICATION.
NOW, THERE ARE TIMES WHERE WE HAVE GIVEN ADVICE AND DIRECTION TO APPLICANTS NOT TO MOVE OUT, DO NOT TO LEAVE THEIR PROGRAM BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF PROVIDING THAT ASSISTANCE.
NOW, THEY MAY HAVE, LET'S SAY THEY APPLIED IN APRIL AND THEY ONLY APPLIED FOR MAYBE APRIL, OR THEY, THEY APPLIED IN APRIL 30TH AND THEY APPLIED APRIL AND MAY, AND WE PROCESSED MAY 15.
'CAUSE IT TAKES ABOUT TWO WEEKS TO MAYBE, MAYBE MAY, MAY 18TH.
WE WOULD AUTOMATICALLY WORK ON THAT FILE BASED ON THE SUBMISSION DATE TO PAY AN EXTRA MONTH FOR THEM.
BECAUSE BY THE TIME THE PAYMENT THAT PAYMENT GETS TO THE, TO THE LANDLORD, THAT WOULD BE MAY AROUND, UH, MAY 25TH, AROUND THAT DATE, WE WOULD HAVE THAT PAYMENT FOR THAT LANDLORD.
SO WE TAKE INTO THE ACCOUNT THE DAYS AND THE TIME THAT WE ARE PROCESSING THAT APPLICATION.
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AND THERE ARE INSTANCES COUNCILWOMAN THAT ALTHOUGH WE ARE TELLING RESIDENTS WE ARE PROCESSING YOUR APPLICATION, WE'RE, UH, WORKING WITH THE LANDLORD, THEY DO STILL MOVE OUT IN THOSE SOME CASES.UM, IN THOSE CASES, WE DO SAY, YOU KNOW, IF WE KNOW THAT THEY MOVE OUT, THEN WE WITHHOLD THAT PAYMENT TO THE LANDLORD.
WE TELL THE LANDLORD THAT PERSON MOVED OUT, WE GOTTA, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA TAKE, WE'RE WE CAN'T ISSUE THAT PAYMENT.
UH, IN OTHER CASES, UH, WE'RE ABLE TO CALL THEM THOSE INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE THEY STILL HAVE A VALID LEASE.
AND WE SAY STAY IN THOSE UNITS, BUT WE'RE DOING A BIG EDUCATION PIECE AROUND, UH, ALL OF OUR CASEWORKERS THAT ARE PROCESSING THESE.
WHEN WE TALK TO THEM AND THEY CHECK ON THE STATUS OF THAT APPLICATION, WE'RE TELLING 'EM DO NOT MOVE OUT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THAT WAS A BIG ISSUE THAT WE HAVE SEEN WHERE WE'RE PROCESSING AN, UH, AN APPLICATION WE HAVEN'T FULLY PROCESSED.
THEY HAVE NOT BEEN EVICTED, THEY HAVE NOT BEEN GIVING A NOTICE TO VACATE, AND THEY'RE PROACTIVELY MOVING OUT.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE SAYING, DO NOT MOVE OUT.
WE NEED TO STAY IN YOUR LOCATION.
AND I WILL ALSO SAY COUNCILWOMAN, UH, EDWARD, HIS EAP TEAM AND OUR COURTS TEAM, WE DO COMMUNICATE.
UH, SO IF DURING AN APPLICATION PROCESS, ONE OF THEIR PROCESSORS KNOWS THAT THERE'S A NOTICE TO VACATE OR AN EVICTION NOTICE, UH, THAT'S TRANSFERRED OVER TO OUR COURTS TEAM, WE'RE ALLOWED TO THEN, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT TO THE APPLICANT, MAKE THEM AWARE OF THE C D C EVICTION MORATORIUM, MAKE 'EM AWARE OF E A THEM AND THE, THE LANDLORD, UH, SO THAT IF THERE IS A SOLUTION THAT INVOLVES E A WHERE THEY'LL WITHDRAW THEIR, THEIR, UH, THEIR EVICTION, THEN WE WORK ON THAT.
IF IT'S GOING THROUGH THE EVICTION PRO PROCESS, THEN WE OF COURSE BRING UP THE EVICTION DIVERSION PROGRAM.
AND WE JUST MAKE SURE THAT SINCE WE'RE THERE AT THE COURTS, THAT WE TRACK THAT CASE ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
SO WE DO COMMUNICATE AND WE TRY TO BE, UH, IN SYNC WITH APPLICANTS THAT MAY HAVE A NOTICE TO VACATE ONE EVICTION.
AND THEN IAN, FOLLOWING UP ON THAT, HOW MANY CASES HAVE WE BEEN ABLE TO, UH, TRULY DEFER FROM EVICTION? IF THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS, THE PAYMENT HASN'T BEEN ISSUED, BUT NOW THEY'RE IN COURT, DO WE KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE FAMILIES WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ASSIST? SO WE, WE HAVE, UM, 1,576, UH, CASES DISMISSED FROM THE COURTS, AND THAT IS A COMBINATION OF, UH, ASSISTANCE FROM THE CITY, UH, ASSISTANCE FROM THE STATE, UH, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME CASES DO SELF RESOLVE, BUT, UH, THAT'S THE NUMBER OF, OF CASES THAT HAVE BEEN DISMISSED AT THE COURT LEVEL.
DO WE KNOW HOW MANY LANDLORDS HAVEN'T ACCEPTED OUR PAYMENTS, UM, THAT WE'VE BEEN PROCESSING? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER OF LANDLORDS.
SOME LANDLORDS HAVE MULTIPLE EVICTIONS.
SO WE'D HAVE TO LOOK UP THAT DATA AND WE CAN, WE CAN SEE WHAT WE CAN FIND, UH, IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF LANDLORDS WHO HAVE IT.
AND THERE IS REASONS OTHER THAN NONPAYMENT OF RENT THAT INDIVIDUALS CAN BE EVICTED.
UH, SO THAT'S ALSO AN IMPORTANT, UH, CAVEAT FOR US TO, TO, UH, ACKNOWLEDGE.
SO, SO THAT BRINGS THE NEXT QUESTION, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT, HOW MANY PAYMENTS HAVE WE ISSUED? BUT PEOPLE HAVE STILL BEEN EVICTED BASED ON A DIFFERENT ISSUE OTHER THAN US PAYING THE RENT.
SO WE DON'T TRACK THAT NUMBER.
WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DATA AND SEE.
UM, BUT, BUT WE DON'T, WE DON'T TRACK THAT.
UM, WE'LL, WE'LL SEE IF IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THE DATA.
SO WHAT I CAN PROVIDE YOU, SINCE WE'VE BEEN AT THE COURTS, THE NUMBER OF DEFAULT JUDGMENTS HAVE BEEN 2,408 AND THE AMOUNT OF JUDGMENTS FOR THE PLAINTIFF.
SO THOSE ARE CASES THAT GET TRIED, UH, HAVE BEEN 1,167.
SO, UM, IT'S HARD FOR US TO GET THE, THE DATA ON THE REASONING WE HAVE THE OUTCOME.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DIG MORE INTO.
UH, A LOT OF THAT DATA IS HELD BY THE COUNTY, AND EACH JP DISTRICT REPORTS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
SO WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN PULL OUT FROM THE DATA.
WE HAVE TO SEE IF WE CAN PULL OUT SOME OF THAT STUFF.
AND DO YOU KNOW IF ANY OF, UH, THE SERVICES THAT WE OFFERED, IF THERE'S BEEN A REFUSAL, A PAYMENT, OR IF WE HAVE FALTERED ON MAKING SURE WE GET THE PAYMENT, HOW MANY OF THOSE FAMILIES HAVE BEEN ASSISTED WITH RELOCATION SERVICES? I'D HAVE TO GET THE EXACT NUMBER OF RELOCATIONS.
UM, BUT THE AMOUNT OF, UH, PEOPLE, LANDLORDS THAT DO NOT ACCEPT PAYMENT ARE IS, IS PRETTY FEW.
UM, ONCE WE'RE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO THE LANDLORD AND THEY KNOW OF OUR PROGRAM, UM, THEY'RE USUALLY WILLING TO WAIT FOR THE PAYMENT.
THAT'S PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE USING THAT VERSION PROGRAM.
UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE'LL HAVE TO PULL FROM OUR DATA AND SEE IF WE CAN GET BACK TO YOU.
COUNCIL WILLIAMS. OKAY, NO PROBLEM.
WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU'RE DOING.
THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE,
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CHAIR.UM, WELL, I THINK A LOT OF THOSE, A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS, UH, WERE SIMILAR TO MINE.
UH, I WANT TO THANK MY COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR ASKING THAT.
I WANNA THANK, UH, YOU EDWARD, FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UH, I'LL CLOSE OFF BY JUST ASKING A, A, A FEW MORE.
UH, THE EMERGENCY HOUSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM CONTINUES TO, TO REACH SO MANY THAT ARE IN NEED.
AND, AND, AND I THINK THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING HERE.
UM, I DO ALSO WANT TO THANK, UH, OUR STAKEHOLDERS AND COMMUNITY ADVOCATES WHO HELP IMPROVE THE PROGRAM IN SO MANY WAYS.
AND, UH, EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT THAT EAP WILL NEED TO CONTINUE BEING DYNAMIC AND RESPONSIVE.
UM, AGAIN, ONE ONGOING CONCERN THAT I'VE HEARD IS THAT PROPERTY OWNERS ARE RECEIVING EAP AWARDS ON BEHALF OF THEIR TENANT, BUT THEN THEY ELECT TO NOT RENEW THE TENANT'S LEASE IF IT HAS ENDED OR THEY ARE MONTH TO MONTH.
UM, THIS GOES AGAINST THE, THE PROGRAM'S GOAL TO STABILIZE HOUSING.
UM, SO AGAIN, AND, AND I THINK IT WAS SOMEWHAT REITERATED, UH, EARLIER, UH, WHEN STAFF REVIEWS THE, THE EAP APPLICATION ALONG WITH THE LEASE, DO THEY TAKE THE TIME REMAINING ON THE LEASE INTO ACCOUNT? WE DO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SO WE ENSURE THAT THE, THAT THE LEASE AND THE DEFINITELY THE MONTHS THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR ARE PART OF THE CURRENT LEASE.
SO THEY HAVE TO BE WITHIN, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A VALID LEASE WITHIN THAT CURRENT MONTH.
SO IF WE'RE PAYING ONE MONTH OF FUTURE RENT AS AN EXAMPLE, THAT THAT FUTURE RENT HAS TO BE WITHIN THE EXISTING LEASE.
WE ARE SEEING LEASES THAT MAY EXPIRE IN TWO MONTHS, RIGHT? FROM OUR ASSISTANCE.
WE, WE, WE ASK THEM, WE LET THEM KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOUR LEASE IS ABOUT TO EXPIRE.
HAVE YOU STARTED, YOU KNOW, THE NEGOTIATION WITH RENEWING THAT? UM, MOST PEOPLE SAY, YES, WE HAVE THAT, OR WE, UM, IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO TELL US OR DISCLOSE THAT INFORMATION, WE DO PROVIDE THE, THE NUMBER TO OUR FOR HOUSING TEAM TO SAY IF THEY ARE HAVING FAIR HOUSING ISSUES WITH THOSE RENEWALS TO LET US KNOW.
BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE ARE HAVING, WE, I HAVE SEEN A COUPLE OF FOLKS THAT, UH, AND THAT WE'VE REVIEWED THEIR LEASES AND THEY'RE JUST, THOSE HAVE JUST HAVE NOT BEEN RENEWED FOR VARIOUS REASONS, FOR THEY COULD BE OTHER THINGS, BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO TRACK THAT COUNCIL MEMBER.
WELL, I, AND I APPRECIATE THAT, EDWARD, BUT I THINK I, I, THAT'S NOT MY POINT.
I, LET ME, LET ME MAYBE BE A, TRY A LITTLE BIT, BE A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC.
I, I RECOMMEND THAT, THAT MAYBE YOU IN, IN TAKING THIS INTO CONSIDERATION THAT YOU WORK WITH LANDLORDS DURING THE AWARDS PROCESS TO RENEW MORE LEASES, UH, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE MONTH TO MONTH OR ABOUT TO, TO EXPIRE.
SO I KNOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING TO SOME OF THESE, THESE TENANTS, BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, UH, COURAGE MADE A GREAT POINT ABOUT THE DASHBOARD SHOWING, YOU KNOW, THE ECOSYSTEM THAT EXISTS.
BUT, UM, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ALSO ALSO NEED TO BE WORKING WITH THESE LANDLORDS, UH, TO HELP PROVIDE SOME ADVOCACY TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE LEASES, UH, CAN CONTINUE THE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE MONTH TO MONTH, UH, CAN CONTINUE TO STAY THERE.
SO, UM, AND OF COURSE, THAT'S RELATED TO THE ISSUE THAT WAS JUST BROUGHT UP, UH, WHICH IS RELOCATION ASSISTANCE.
UM, DID, AND I, I GUESS I DIDN'T CATCH IF YOU SAID IT, BUT HOW MUCH MONEY IS IN, IN THE RELOCATION ASSISTANCE FUND? SO WE HAVE AROUND A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, UH, THAT'S PART OF OUR RELOCATION ASSISTANCE.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE ABOUT $60,000 REMAINING IN THAT BUDGET.
UH, AND AS WE NEED IT, WE WILL, UH, LOOK AT WAYS TO CONTINUE TO, TO FUND THAT PROGRAM.
SO HERE'S WHERE I, I'LL MAKE THE ASK THAT WE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD OVER REHAB, I, I'VE ASKED THAT WE INCREASE THIS FUND AS IT HELPS THOSE WHO, WHO HAVE ALREADY BEEN DISPLACED.
BUT ALSO I THINK IT, IT, IT, IT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED REGARDING, UH, PEOPLE'S, UH, AB ABILITY TO STAY IN THOSE, IN THOSE, UH, PLACES WHERE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE LEASES MAY, UH, BE ABOUT TO EXPIRE OR MAY ABOUT TO EXPIRE, OR THEY ARE MONTH TO MONTH.
UM, AND SO I THINK YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO, I'D, I'D LIKE FOR US TO BALANCE OUT THOSE ISSUES AND GET PEOPLE INTO PLACE THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO BE THERE, UH, IN A MORE LONG-TERM SITUATION AND NOT JUST MORE, UH, HANDLING JUST, JUST THE IMMEDIATE SITUATION.
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UM, HOW HAVE, HOW, HOW CAN WE CONTINUE TO, TO, TO DISCUSS WAYS WE CAN INCREASE THE RELOCATION ASSISTANCE FUND FUNDING? IS THIS, IS THIS MOVING DOLLARS, UH, FROM THE SAME BUCKET, OR DO WE NEED TO FIND OTHER DOLLARS? UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, WE ARE AWARE OF THE REQUEST, AND AS EDWARD MENTIONED, WE HAVE ABOUT $60,000 LEFT.UM, IN THE EVENT THAT WE FEEL THAT WE NEED ADDITIONAL FUNDING, WE WILL COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION ON EITHER REALLOCATION WITHIN OUR EAP BUDGET OR COME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE.
WELL, I, YEAH, I, I, I JUST, IT'S, I JUST WANNA STRESS IT IS IMPORTANT.
WE, WE DON'T INTEND ON RUNNING OUTTA MONEY, AND WE'LL COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION WHEN THE TIMING IS RIGHT ON A RECOMMEND ON, ON A ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT COULD INCLUDE REALLOCATION.
UH, WELL, I JUST, I FEEL LIKE THE, THE, THE, THE, THE NUMBER I JUST RECEIVED IS, IS, IS, UH, IS SEVERELY LOW.
AND AGAIN, I WOULD, I WOULD ASK, UH, US TO, TO LOOK AT WAYS OR A, UH, OR PROVIDE US, UH, A WAY THAT COUNCIL CAN, UH, ORDER TO MOVE FIVE TO $10 MILLION INTO RELOCATION ASSISTANCE.
UM, AND OF COURSE, WHICH, WHICH ROUND OF FEDERAL FUNDING IS THE 5 MILLION FROM THE COUNTY COMING FROM? SO THE 5 MILLION FROM THE COUNTY IS COMING FROM THE US TREASURY FUNDS.
SO THAT IS PART OF THE, UH, THE AWARDS THAT WERE MADE IN THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, UH, IN JANUARY.
IT'S NOT PART OF THE NEW, UH, RECOVERY ACT FUNDS.
HAS THE CITY RECEIVED ITS ALLOCATION FROM THE RESCUE PLAN ACT? LORD, YOU MIGHT WANNA ADDRESS THIS.
I'LL NEED TO SEE IF WE RECEIVED THE ACTUAL ALLOCATION, AND I'LL GET BACK TO YOU COUNSELING.
UM, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, UH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I THINK, UH, SOME OF THAT MONEY FOR RENTAL AND MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE SHOULD BE DIVERTED INTO RELOCATION ASSISTANCE.
AND, UM, I, I, I, I THINK YOU HEARD IT, UH, PRETTY LOUD AND CLEAR AND, AND THERE REALLY IS AN ECOSYSTEM HERE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, MAINTAIN.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE ALSO KNOW THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT US, YOU KNOW, CREATING A STRATEGY THAT, THAT LOOKS AT THIS, UH, AS, AS A, AS A, UH, MORE LONG-TERM SOLUTION TO HELP PEOPLE GET BACK ON THEIR FEET BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA NEED THAT TIME, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M AFRAID THAT, THAT WE'VE REALLY, UH, JUST UNDERFUNDED, UH, RELOCATION ASSISTANCE.
UM, ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT, THAT I NOTICED IN THE PRESENTATION, UH, WAS THAT WHERE THE A M I IS THE LOWEST, THE, THE WEST SIDE DISTRICT FIVE, UH, THE AWARDS HAVE BEEN THE LOWEST.
HOW CAN, HOW CAN WE IMPROVE MORE OUTREACH IN THOSE WITH THOSE RESIDENTS? COUNCILMAN? UH, A PORTION OF THAT IS, UH, BECAUSE OF THE, WE ARE PAYING A VOUCHER OR A PORTION OF INDIVIDUALS UNSUBSIDIZED RENTS.
SO WE HAVE A HIGHER NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE LIVING IN DISTRICT FIVE THAT GET SUBSIDIZED RENTAL HOUSING.
SO THE AVERAGE ASSISTANCE FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE LOWER.
SO WHEREAS WE WOULD PAY SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T HAVE A VOUCHER ABOUT $800 OR $900 FOR A MONTHLY RENT, WE'RE PAYING THOSE AS INDIVIDUALS, PARTICULARLY FROM DISTRICT FIVE WITH MAYBE $250 FOR THAT ONE MONTH OF RENT.
AND THAT'S THE UNSUBSIDIZED PORTION THAT THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR.
MOST OF THOSE ARE SAHA VOUCHER HOLDERS.
NOW THAT NOT ALL VOUCHER HOLDERS ARE IN DISTRICT FIVE, I DON'T WANNA, UH, COMPLICATE THAT, BUT THERE IS A LARGE CONCENTRATION OF VOUCHER HOLDERS IN DISTRICT FIVE THAT ARE ON PUBLIC HOUSING.
AND COUNCILMAN, YOU HAD ASKED ABOUT HOW WE CAN GET MORE INDIVIDUALS ON THE WEST SIDE AND THOSE OTHER AREAS INVOLVED.
AND OUR NEXT ITEM, WE'LL DISCUSS THAT AS WELL.
AND THEN, UM, UH, I GUESS, UM, SO WITH THAT, I THINK, UH, I THINK WE'RE, I DON'T SEE ANY OF THE, UH, COUN COUNCIL COMMENTS, SO, ALRIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU AGAIN.
UH, APPRECIATE, UH, UH, ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS.
[4. 21-2997 Briefing on a Professional Services Agreement with The Health Collaborative for the Emergency Housing Assistance Program in the amount of up to $400,000 funded from the U.S. Treasury Federal Emergency Rental Assistance Program. [Lori Houston, Assistant City Manager; Verónica R. Soto, FAICP, Director, Neighborhood & Housing Services]]
MOVE ON TO A BRIEFING ON THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH THE HEALTH COLLABORATIVE FOR EMERGENCY HOUSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF 400,000 FUNDED FROM THE US UH, TREASURY FEDERAL EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.AND COUNCILMAN, UM, VERONICA SOTO WILL BE DOING THIS PRESENTATION.
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THANK YOU, LAURIE, IF WE CAN HAVE THE PRESENTATION PLEASE WHILE WE WAIT FOR THAT.UM, JUST WANTED TO, UH, LET YOU KNOW THAT OUR PROGRAM, UM, WAS, UM, ONE OF SEVERAL FEATURED IN A REPORT THAT CAME OUT LAST MONTH THAT WAS PUT OUT BY THE NATIONAL LOW INCOME HOUSING COALITION AND THE CENTER FOR LAW AND SOCIAL POLICY.
UM, THAT REPORT TALKED ABOUT PRIORITIZATION IN EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
UM, AND, UH, OUR PROGRAM WAS HIGHLIGHTED AS A CASE STUDY SAMPLE FOR BOTH OUR DASHBOARD IN TERMS OF TRACKING, MONITORING DATA, AND ALSO, UH, IN TERMS OF TARGETING ASSISTANCE WHERE NEEDED.
UM, SO, SO YOUR VIDEO, IF WE CAN HAVE THE, THE PRESENTATION FOR THE NEXT ITEM AND YEAH, I'M JUST
SO I, I DO WANNA, UM, MENTION THAT AS, AS WE WAIT FOR THE NEXT ITEM TO BE ON THE SCREEN FOR YOU.
UM, I'LL GIVE A FEW MINUTES FOR THAT TO COME UP.
HEY VEDO, WE'RE TRYING, WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING IT UP RIGHT NOW.
GIVE US A COUPLE OF MINUTES PLEASE.
I'LL START TALKING ABOUT THE ITEMS AND UH, THE PRESENTATION WILL CATCH UP WITH ME.
UM, I THINK I HAVE SHARING CAPABILITY AS WELL, IF YOU GUYS ARE HAVING DIFFICULTIES.
I HAVE IT AS A P D F, UM, NOT IDEAL, BUT I CAN SHARE IF YOU GUYS HAVE TOO MUCH DIFFICULTY.
SO THE NEXT ITEM THAT IS BEFORE THIS COUNCIL COMMITTEE IS A, UH, BRIEFING ON THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH THE HEALTH COLLABORATIVE FOR THE EMERGENCY HOUSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF UP TO $400,000.
AND IT IS TO BE FUNDED OUT OF THE PHASE FOUR FUNDING, WHICH IS THE US TREASURY FUNDING.
UM, ONE OF THE, THE THINGS THAT YOU HEARD EARLIER IS HOW WE HAVE HAD THIS EMERGENCY HOUSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND THE LIST OF ASSISTANCE PROVIDED IN LAST YEAR'S PROGRAMMING.
WE HAD CONTRACTED WITH SEVERAL INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATIONS, NONPROFIT, GRASSROOTS, UM, WHO HELPED US DO APPLICATION OUTREACH AND APPLICATION INTAKE.
AND WHAT WAS MISSING IN WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS HAVING THAT CONTRACTUAL ASSISTANCE, UM, BE PART OF THE PROGRAM.
WHEN WE ACCEPTED THE FUNDING FOR PHASE FOUR AND, AND PROGRAM THE MONEY FOR, UH, PHASE FOUR, WE DID TALK ABOUT THE ENHANCEMENTS.
YOU HEARD ABOUT THE BENEFIT NAVIGATION FROM EDWARD ALREADY.
BUT ONE OF THE ADDITIONAL THINGS WE WANTED TO DO WAS TO EXPAND THE NUMBER OF GRASSROOTS AND NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS WHO COULD HELP THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD HAVE DIFFICULTY BECAUSE IT'S AN ONLINE APPLICATION WHO NEEDED THAT EXTRA ASSISTANCE, UH, PERHAPS THEY WERE, UH, UNAWARE OF, OF THE PROGRAM OR GOT FRUSTRATED, UM, IF THEY HAD DIFFICULTIES JUST BEING, UM, SAVVY ON THE COMPUTER.
AND SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS THIS CONTRACT WITH THE HEALTH COLLABORATIVE FOR UP TO $400,000 TO HAVE THE HEALTH COLLABORATIVE SERVE AS OUR RESOURCE AND EXPAND THE REACH BEYOND THE, THE FIVE OR SO ORGANIZATIONS WE HAD WORKED WITH IN THE PAST.
SO, UM, WE DO HAVE A PROPOSAL FROM THE HEALTH COLLABORATIVE, THE HEALTH COLLABORATIVE, AND I WANNA THANK, UH, ELIZABETH LETS, WHO IS ON THIS MEETING WHO CAN HELP ANSWER QUESTIONS, UM, IF THEY COME UP LATER.
UM, BECAUSE THEY ALREADY PROVIDE, UH, SERVICES THAT ARE SIMILAR AND HAVE PARTNERED WITH THE CITY ON OTHER ENDEAVORS WHERE WE HAVE NEEDED TO REACH REACH POPULATIONS.
SO THE HEALTH COLLABORATIVE ALREADY PROVIDES HEALTH AND WELLNESS SERVICES TO BEAR COUNTY RESIDENTS, AND THROUGH THIS PROPOSAL AND THIS CONTRACT, THEY WILL SERVE AS THE CENTRAL POINT OF CONTACT FOR THE EN EN ENHANCED OUTREACH AND APPLICATION ASSISTANCE TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO, UM, THIS CONTRACT, UM, I'M ALREADY IN LIKE SLIDE FOUR.
UM, THIS CONTRACT WOULD ALLOW US TO ENHANCE THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE TO WORK WITH GRASSROOTS, UH, ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE TRUSTED IN THE COMMUNITY BY THE COMMUNITY,
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HELP US HAVE THAT EXPANDED OUTREACH.AND THE APPLICATION INTAKE FOR THOSE ARE TO REACH COMMUNITIES AS WELL.
UM, AND THE, THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASPECTS.
THAT MEANS MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RESOURCES FOR THE GRASSROOTS INDIVIDUALS OR ORGANIZATIONS HELPING US.
THAT MEANS HAVING, UH, TRAINED STAFF ON THEIR TEAM, UH, USING A TRAIN THE TRAINER MODEL ON EHA.
THEY'LL HAVE ACCESS TO, UH, THE BACK OF, OF THE PROGRAM SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY SEE AN APPLICATION AND SEE IF IT'S COMPLETE.
SOMETIMES WE SAY, WELL, THE IMAGE IS A LITTLE FUSSY.
WE CAN'T READ IT WHEN SOMEONE UPLOADS A DOCUMENT.
AND THEY, THEY COULD ACTUALLY SEE THAT THROUGH THAT.
THEY ALSO WILL SERVE AS, UM, AN ADDITIONAL CONNECTOR BECAUSE OF THE SERVICES THEY ALREADY HAVE.
AND WE EXPECT TO SERVE UP TO 8,000 ADDITIONAL RESIDENTS WHO CAN NOT JUST RECEIVE INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROGRAM, BUT RECEIVE THAT APPLICATION ASSISTANCE, UM, AS WELL.
AND WE ASKED THE HEALTH COLLABORATIVE TO REACH OUT TO THE ORGANIZATIONS WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH IN THE PAST.
UM, AND THEY HAVE, AND TO ALSO PROVIDE US A LIST OF THE CURRENT COLLABORATIVE MEMBERS WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN BEING ADDED TO THE LIST AS WELL.
AND SO WE ALREADY HAVE DOMESTICS, INDIVIDUALS AFFILIATED WITH COPS, METRO SAGE, UM, SAYING YES, THEY, THEY'D LIKE TO CONTINUE DOING THIS WORK.
PLUS WE HAVE ADDITIONAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE PART OF THE COLLABORATIVE UMBRELLA WHO WILL HELP THAT.
AND THE ENHANCEMENTS ARE, WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET ADDITIONAL CLIENTS SERVED.
IF SOMEONE CALLS OUR CALL CENTER AND IS HAVING DIFFICULTY, UH, UPLOADING DOCUMENTS, THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL RESOURCE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HOPE WE HIT A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT CAN HELP THOSE INDIVIDUALS UPLOAD DOCUMENTS.
SO WE REFER CLIENTS BACK TO SAY, THIS INDIVIDUAL NEEDS ASSISTANCE HELP COLLABORATIVE, ASSIGN IT TO ONE OF OUR PARTNERS SO THEY CAN REACH OUT AND, AND HELP THAT FAMILY GET THE INFORMATION UPLOADED.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE DIGITAL ACCESS, UM, THEY WILL HELP WITH THAT CASE MANAGEMENT OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE GETTING ASSISTANCE AND AGAIN, BE ABLE TO SHARE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE OTHER CONTRACTS THAT PROVIDE SERVICES.
UM, SO SOME OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE PART OF THIS, UM, INCLUDE, UM, I'M JUST GONNA READ A A FEW OF THE, THE NAMES.
UM, WE HAVE THE MEXICAN AMERICAN UNITY COUNCIL THAT HAS EXPRESSED INTEREST.
THE MADONNA NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER, THE DREAM CENTER OF SAN ANTONIO, GRACE TABERNACLE, AMERICAN GATEWAYS, UH, SOUTHWEST, SOUTHWEST WORKERS UNION, RAICES, UM, PUERTO.
UM, AND SO THAT'S JUST A, A PARTIAL LISTING OF LISTING OF ADDITIONAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE PROGRAM.
THE CONTRACT ITSELF, AGAIN, IS UP TO $400,000.
THERE'D BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE FEE FOR THE HEALTH COLLABORATIVE TO PROVIDE THE CASE MANAGEMENT SUPPORT.
AND THE REST OF THE FUNDING WOULD GO TO THE INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATIONS DOING THE, THE WORK OF OUTREACH AND APPLICATION ASSISTANCE WITH AROUND $40 PER APPLICATION SUBMITTED.
UM, AND, AND VERA, I'M GONNA INTERRUPT BECAUSE THAT THAT REALLY WAS HER PRESENTATION, BUT I'M GONNA SUMMARIZE IT IN TWO MINUTES.
UM, WE'RE DOING A CONTRACT WITH A HEALTH COLLABORATIVE.
UM, WE ARE GOING TO PAY THEM $80,000 FOR THEIR ADMINISTRATIVE, UM, EXPENSES.
AND THEN THEY ARE GOING TO MANAGE $320,000 AND PAY NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS AND OTHER COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS TO HELP CASE MANAGE THESE APPLICATIONS.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, DOMESTIC US UNIT US, THEY WERE HELPING WITH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE FILL OUT THE APPLICATION AND THEN THEY WOULD SUBMIT IT.
THIS IS TAKING IT ONE STEP FURTHER, AND THEY'RE REALLY GOING TO BE THE CASE MANAGER FOR THAT APPLICATION THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
SO IF SOMEBODY IS WORKING WITH DOMESTIC S UNIT S TO GET THAT APPLICATION IN, THEY WILL CALL THEM UNTIL THEY GET THEIR CHECK.
UM, BECAUSE WHAT WE FOUND IS PEOPLE WOULD SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATION THROUGH A NONPROFIT, AND THEN THEY WOULD CALL THE CALL CENTER.
THEY'D GET CA ON, ON HOLD, THEY'D CALL THE NEXT DAY, UM, TO TALK TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
AND THE, THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE ARE GONNA BE WORKING WITH, THEY, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE HOLDING THE HAND NOT FRUSTRATING THEM, AND THAT THEY HAVE ONE POINT OF CONTACT AS THEY GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
SO 80,000 FOR THE ORGANIZATION TO MANAGE THE PROCESS, AND THEN UP TO 320,000 TO HELP WITH THAT OUTREACH AND APPLICATION INTAKE AND PROCESSING.
AND THAT WILL INCLUDE A $40 PER COMPLETE APPLICATION
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FEE, UM, THAT EACH ENTITY WILL BE GETTING.AND SO THAT'S THE UP TO AMOUNT.
UM, I WAS ABLE TO SHARE THAT, AT LEAST THAT SCREEN.
UM, THAT IS REALLY THE, THE PRESENTATION I HAD GONE THROUGH MY P D F.
UM, AGAIN, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE HEALTH COLLABORATIVE, ELIZABETH, LETS, IS ON THE LINE IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
UM, AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WE'LL GO INTO COUNCILOR COMMENT.
UM, SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS, UM, THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, UM, ARE THEY ALREADY ALL SET IN STONE OR ARE WE GOING TO BRING MORE ON, THEY'RE NOT ALL SET IN STONES.
UM, THESE ARE THE FOLKS WHO HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST, AND THERE'LL BE ADDITIONAL ONES THAT, UH, I HOPE ARE ABLE TO COME ON BOARD.
UM, IT'LL BE A MORE FLUID PROCESS, SO IF WE SEE A NEED IN A CERTAIN AREA, WE'LL REACH OUT TO NEW ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL, UM, AND ALL OF THOSE PARTNERSHIPS.
SO, SO LET ME, LET ME JUST, LET ME STOP YOU THERE.
SO IT'LL BE THE CITY REACHING OUT, OR IT WILL BE THE HEALTH COLLABORATIVE REACHING OUT.
IT'LL BE THE HEALTH COLLABORATIVE.
UM, THEY'LL MANAGE THE PARTNERSHIPS.
SO, UM, AND THEY'LL BE ABLE, AND SO HOW MANY PARTNERS CAN WE PARTNER AGENCIES? CAN WE ACTUALLY HAVE, OR CAN THE HEALTH COLLABORATIVE MANAGE WITH THE FUNDING THAT WE'RE GIVING? ELIZABETH, DO YOU WANNA ADDRESS THAT IF YOU'RE ON THE ABSOLUTELY.
UM, SO COUNCIL JUAN VERAN, UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ABOUT 26 PARTNERS THAT HAVE ACTIVELY ENGAGED WITH US AND ARE WAITING FOR THE, UH, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT ALONG WITH TERMS, SCOPE OF WORK, TIMELINES AND SO FORTH.
SO RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE, UM, ANY DATA TO DEMONSTRATE THE CAPACITY OF EACH OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE EACH ORGANIZATION ONE BY ONE.
SOME OF THEM ARE LAY LEADERS, THEY'RE NOT PART OF AN ORGANIZATION.
SO OUR PLAN IS TO REALLY WORK WITH THAT COMMUNITY-BASED GROUP TO DETERMINE WHAT IS THEIR FULL CAPACITY, AND THEN REPORT BACK TO THE LEADERSHIP, UM, UH, THAT WE NEED MAYBE ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE IN CERTAIN AREAS, AND THEN TRY TO SCOUT MORE PARTNERS.
OR AS YOU RECEIVE, UM, INTEREST FROM YOUR GROUPS, YOU CAN ALSO FILTER THOSE BACK OUT TO US.
BUT RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T FULLY KNOW THE, THE CAPACITY.
MANY OF THEM THAT WE'RE WORKING IN THAT CAPACITY BEFORE HAVE LOST INDIVIDUALS THAT USED TO DO THAT WORK.
SO THEY'RE RETOOLING AND REFRAMING.
UH, BUT WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE SUBMITTING SOME UPDATES WITH REGARDS TO CAPACITY AND ADDED CAPACITY AS NEEDED IN THE GEOGRAPHIES, UM, THAT WE'RE FINDING THAT NEED MORE HELP.
SO ARE THESE WORKERS GETTING PAID? YES.
SO, AND HOW MUCH ARE THEY GETTING PAID AN HOUR? IF THAT'S
SOME OF THE ORGANIZATIONS DO NOT HAVE STAFF, RIGHT? THEY HAVE BEEN USING VOLUNTEERS.
IN THIS CASE, THE FUNDING THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO, UH, RECEIVE THROUGH THIS PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT MAY BE ABLE TO HELP THEM ADD STAFF TO THEIR, TO THEIR EXISTING OPERATION.
SO AGAIN, EVERY PARTNER IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
WHAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED THROUGH COVID IN OUR WORK AND DOING A LOT OF THESE COLLABORATIVE MODELS IS THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH EVERY INDIVIDUAL, EVERY ORGANIZATION, MUCH LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH EVERY INDIVIDUAL, RIGHT? TO MEET THEM WHERE THEY ARE.
UM, THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT REALLY HOLD THE PULSE OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US AT THE HEALTH COLLABORATIVE TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE RESPECTING WHERE THEY ARE WITH CAPACITY AND REALLY HELP THEM THROUGH THEIR PLAN.
IF THEIR VISION IS TO INCREASE CAPACITY TO HELP THIS EFFORT, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DEFINITELY BE, I I'M INTERESTED IN DOING, BUT THEY ARE GETTING PAID.
YEAH, NO, YEAH, I, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE, THE POINT, RIGHT? WE WANT TO REACH OUT AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY CASE MANAGE, WHATEVER WE'RE DOING.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR PARTNERS, I MEAN, WE HAVE OUR STANDARDS WITH HOW WE'RE PAYING, UM, OUR, OUR EMPLOYEES A $15 MINIMUM WAGE, WELL, $15 AN HOUR.
SO WE WANNA SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE.
UM, BUT THEN I ALSO WANTED TO KNOW, SO VETO, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING THIS PROGRAM, CORRECT? WE, WE HAD CONTRACTS IN THE PAST UNDER PHASE TWO, AND WE HAD FIVE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WERE DOING THAT WORK.
DO WE, DO WE HAVE THE DATA THAT SHOWS, UM, FROM THEIR WORK, THOSE FIVE PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS, HOW MANY APPLICATIONS WE GOT FOR THE EHA AND, AND HELP AND ASSISTANCE WE HAVE?
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YES, WE HAVE THAT.AND WHAT IS THAT? WHAT IS THAT NUMBER? UM, I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, OF ME, BUT I'LL GET IT TO YOU.
BUT WE DO HAVE THAT DATA FOR THE MONTH WE HAD THAT CON THOSE CONTRACTS.
I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT, UH, PIECE TO HAVE TO MAKE THE, THE CONVERSATION WHOLE.
UM, BECAUSE IF WE DO EXPAND OUR CAPACITY, WE'RE EXPECTING TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE COME ON BOARD, OR AT LEAST FOR OPPORTUNITIES.
AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS PARTNERSHIP IS ALSO GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT OUR, UH, THE RESIDENTS OR THE MEMBERS THAT WE'RE DOING CASE MANAGEMENT WITH TO OUR TRAINED FOR JOBS AND THEN READY TO WORK SA PROGRAM IN THE FUTURE.
THOSE ARE ADDITIONAL SERVICES THAT WOULD BE A, AN ADDITIONAL CONNECTION IF THE BENEFITS NAVIGATORS DON'T GIVE OUR CLIENTS THAT INFORMATION.
THE HEALTH COLLABORATIVE ALSO IS CONNECTING TO ADDITIONAL SERVICES COUNCIL.
AND THE HEALTH COLLABORATIVE, AL ALREADY HAS ABOUT 25 COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKERS THAT ARE DOING FULL CARE COORDINATION SERVICES.
SO WHENEVER WE HAVE ONE OF OUR EXTERNAL PARTNERS OR NEW PARTNERS AS PART OF THE HOUSING PROGRAM, IF THEY IDENTIFY SOMEONE THAT HE HAS ADDITIONAL NEEDS OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSING APPLICATION OR WHATEVER SERVICES THEY'RE APPLYING FOR, THEN THE HEALTH COLLABORATIVES, COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKERS ARE GONNA BE THAT CONNECTOR.
AND WE WILL LITERALLY WALK THAT FAMILY THROUGH THE COMPLETION OF ALL OF THEIR NEEDS.
SO IT, WE ARE ALSO PART OF THE ALAMO WORKFORCE PROGRAM.
WE'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF THE DIFFERENT SERVICES.
SO OUR COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKERS ACT MORE AS, AS BROKERS, IF YOU WILL.
THEIR, THEIR, THEIR ROLE IS TO BE KNOWLEDGEABLE OF ALL THE PROGRAM SERVICES, ALL OF THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS, SO THAT WE'RE NOT LOSING CONTACT WITH THOSE FAMILIES.
AND TO ENSURE THAT THAT HOUSING ASSISTANCE THAT'S BEING PROVIDED IS SUSTAINABLE, MEETING OTHER NEEDS THAT REALLY ARE REQUIRED IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S ABOUT, UH, NOT BEING INTIMIDATED BY THE PROCESS.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEBODY WALKING ALONGSIDE YOU, UM, YOU'RE LESS INTIMIDATED.
AND, UH, I THINK THIS IS GREAT.
UM, ELIZABETH, THANK YOU FOR THE, THE CONVERSATION.
COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE.
UM, I, I THINK I'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD GRASP OF THIS, BUT I, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY IT IN MY MIND.
SO I, I BELIEVE WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS, UH, THE COLLABORATIVE ORGANIZATION IS GOING TO WORK WITH OTHER NONPROFITS THAT, THAT WE USUALLY HAVE DIFFERENT RELATIONSHIPS WITH.
AND, AND THE COLLABORATIVE IS GOING TO TRAIN OR MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY WHO WORKS FOR THE NONPROFITS ARE TRAINED ON HELPING PEOPLE, UH, APPLY FOR EAP, WILL ACTUALLY HELP THEM WITH THE PAPERWORK, FILE THE PAPERWORK, FOLLOW ALONG WITH THOSE PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE WORKING WITH TO ENSURE THE PAPERWORK GOES THROUGH.
IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS, UH, ADDITIONAL PAPERWORK THAT THAT PERSON NEEDS, THEN THOSE WORKERS FOR THOSE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS WILL HELP THAT POTENTIAL, UH, RECIPIENT GET ALL THAT PAPERWORK IN AND GET IT DONE.
IN THE MEANTIME, IF WE IDENTIFY OTHER SERVICES THAT THEY MAY NEED, THEN THESE ORGANIZATIONS AND THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE, UH, ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND HELP PLUG THOSE PEOPLE IN TO THOSE ADDITIONAL SERVICES.
AND THAT THE PAY IS GONNA BE BASED ON WHETHER OR NOT AN APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED FOR APPROVAL, UH, UH, FOR EAP.
AND SO FOR EVERY APPLICATION THAT'S TURNED IN FOR APPROVAL, THEY'LL BE REIMBURSED $40.
NOW, THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET, LET'S SAY, $10,000 TO AN AGENCY AND JUST SAY, GO RECRUIT PEOPLE.
SO IF YOU DO HAVE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR YOUR AGENCY WHO ARE APPROVED AND TRAINED, AND THEY GO OUT AND FIND 100 PEOPLE WHO WANT EAP HELP, AND THEY HELP THOSE 100 PEOPLE GET THEIR APPLICATIONS IN AND MAYBE PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE, THEY'LL BE REIMBURSED $40 FOR EACH OF THOSE.
IF IT'S A HUNDRED, THAT IF ORGANIZATION WILL GET $4,000.
SO DOES THAT PRETTY MUCH COVER HOW THIS PROCESS IS GOING TO WORK? YES, SIR.
AND I THINK THAT SOUNDS GREAT.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS CLEAR ON THAT.
COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY.
GOOD, GOOD DATA AND STATISTICS.
UM, BUT WE, WE KIND OF TALKED AROUND IT A LITTLE BIT AND YOU'VE, YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, THE BUDGET.
UM, WHAT IS THE BUDGET FOR THIS, AND
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WHERE IS THE BUDGET COMING FROM? IS IT COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, OR IS IT COMING OUT OF THIS, UM, UH, FUNDING THIS, UH, ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? AND HOW MUCH OF THAT BUDGET HAVE WE SPENT? WHERE ARE WE BUDGET WISE ON THIS PROGRAM? AND YOU MENTIONED THESE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE THAT WE'RE PAYING ALSO.I, I, I JUST WANNA SEE A WRAP UP SINCE THIS, SINCE THIS PROGRAM STARTED ON THE BUDGET, THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUDGET FOR THIS WHOLE PROGRAM AND, AND SEE THAT ON A METRIC TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT, HOW MUCH BUDGET IS LEFT, AND, AND, UH, KEEP TRACK OF IT THAT WAY.
WELL, UH, I'LL ADDRESS THE QUESTION FOR THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT.
IT IS COMING FROM PHASE FOUR OF THE EMERGENCY HOUSING ASSISTANCE, UH, PROGRAM FUNDING.
PHASE FOUR IS THE MONEY ALLOCATED BY THE US TREASURY.
THAT WAS PART OF THE RELIEF BILL THAT PASSED THROUGH CONGRESS IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR.
SO THIS IS NOT PART OF THE, UH, UH, ARPA, THE, THE NEW ONE.
IT'S PART OF SOMETHING THAT WAS APPROVED IN DECEMBER.
AND THIS IS US TREASURY FUNDING.
I, I THINK EDWARD DID SHOW, UH, HOW MUCH IS IN THE EMERGENCY HOUSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM TOTAL, WHICH IS OVER 133, UH, MILLION SINCE THE BEGINNING.
BUT WE'LL DO A BREAK THAT BREAKOUT IN TERMS OF THE ADMINISTRATION.
WHEN WE TOOK THIS ITEM TO COUNCIL BACK IN FEBRUARY TO OFFICIALLY ACCEPT THE, THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE MONEY FROM THE US TREASURY, UM, WE DID TALK ABOUT HAVING THE CONTRACTS FOR THE APPLICATION OUTREACH AND INTAKE, AND THAT WAS INCLUDED AS PART OF, OF THAT, UH, CONVERSATION.
THAT'S WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE ENHANCEMENTS.
BUT ALL OF THIS MONEY IS NOT GENERAL FUND, IT'S FEDERAL FUNDING FOR THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
AND ALL OF IT WAS RECEIVED BY THE CITY, UM, BACK, UM, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR FROM THE US TREASURY.
BUT, BUT AGAIN, I, I, IT'S NOT OBVIOUS TO ME HOW MUCH WE'RE SPENDING ON THE ADMINISTRATION OF THIS PROGRAM.
SO I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT HIGHLIGHTED, UH, OVER TIME HOW MUCH WE'RE ACTUALLY SPENDING OF THIS TOTAL BUDGET TOWARDS THE ADMINISTRATIVE PORTION.
UM, AND, AND I, I HAVE TO AGREE THAT, UH, I REALLY WOULD LIKE FOR US TO, I, I, I SHOULD, I SHOULD SAY THAT I, I, I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE USING EAP MONEY, UH, TO, TO BUILD OUT OPERATIONS FOR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.
UH, IT SHOULD BE FOR HOUSING NEEDS.
UH, AND IF, IF MORE STAFF RESOURCES ARE, ARE NEEDED, UH, THEN WILL THAT COST COME OUT OF THE 80,000 IN ADMIN, UH, FEES THAT WE HAVE.
SO FOR THIS CONTRACT, THAT'S THE ADMINISTRATION FOR THE HEALTH COLLABORATIVE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE CASE MANAGEMENT, THE ADDITIONAL WORK, UH, WITH THE AGENCIES.
I THINK THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, DEDICATED STAFF AS WELL.
UM, AND THEY'RE GONNA LEARN THE PROGRAM.
UM, ONE OF THEIR STAFF IS GONNA BE FULL-TIME TO EAP DOING THAT, UM, COORDINATION WITH THE PARTNERS IN CASE MANAGEMENT.
UM, AND THAT'S WHAT WHAT WE HAD AGREED TO.
IT'LL BE THE REPORTS, THE PAYMENTS PROCESSING, UM, ALL OF WHICH IS PART OF EAP AND, AND ALL OF IT, WHICH DOES COST SOME MONEY.
UM, BUT THE CONTRACT ONLY HAS THAT, UM, $80,000 OUT OF THE $400,000.
WELL, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE, WE'RE ALL HEARING ABOUT THE, THE, THE BACKLOG WITH THE TEXAS RENT RELIEF PROGRAM.
UM, IN FACT, MY CONSTITUENT SERVICES DIRECTOR HAS WORKED DIRECTLY WITH FOLKS TO APPLY FOR THIS PROGRAM.
AND, AND WE KNOW IT'S, IT'S AN ONEROUS AND SO FAR INEFFECTIVE.
AND THE, THE EFFORT IS, IS WOEFULLY UNDERSTAFFED.
UH, FURTHERMORE, OUR CURRENT EAP INTAKE STAFF IS INUNDATED WITH LOCAL APPLICATIONS AND REALLY CANNOT PROVIDE, UH, THE LEVEL OF HELP NEEDED CAN, CAN THIS CONTRACT HELP FOLKS CONNECT WITH AND APPLY FOR THE TEXAS RENT RELIEF PROGRAM? THAT'LL BE AN ADDITIONAL RESOURCE THAT, UM, THE, THE FOLKS CAN, WILL BE TRAINED ON AND, AND BE AWARE OF.
IT'LL BE TO HELP THEM WITH THE ACTUAL EAP APPLICATION INTAKE.
BUT OF COURSE, THEY'LL BE TRAINED ON WHAT OTHER PROGRAMS ARE AVAILABLE, INCLUDING THE STATE PROGRAM.
UM, WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK TO THE HEALTH COLLABORATIVE TO ADD THAT.
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DIMINISH THE NUMBER OF EAP APPLICATIONS ITSELF IF WE DIVERT RESOURCES TO HELP, UH, FILL OUT AT THE STATE LEVEL.UM, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN, I THINK WE STILL HAVE TIME TO AMEND IT SINCE WE'RE TAKING THIS TO COUNCIL, NOT THIS WEEK, BUT NEXT WEEK, UM, TO SEE IF THEY CAN HELP WITH THE STATE PROGRAM.
WE ARE AWARE THE STATE IS TAKING A LOT LONGER THAN WE ARE LOCALLY.
WELL, I, I, I GUESS THE, I, THE IDEA IS TO IS, IS TO, UH, TRY TO ADAPT THE PROGRAM TO THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY THE BEST WE CAN.
UH, BUT IS THERE A WAY TO, TO MAKE THE APPLICATION ITSELF MORE ACCESSIBLE AND LESS ONEROUS? WE HAVE WORKED TO STREAMLINE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
WE ALSO HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THE US TREASURY CAME OUT WITH THE GUIDANCE THAT THEY HAVE.
UM, THEY ACTUALLY CAME UP WITH SOME REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE A LITTLE BIT MORE ONEROUS THAN WE HAD IN THE PAST.
AND SO WE, WE REALLY HAVE STREAMLINED IT AND PAIRED IT DOWN AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
BUT THE FUNDING SOURCE IS REQUESTING, UM, DATA AND INFORMATION.
SO, SO THERE'S SOME THINGS WE JUST CAN'T, UM, NOT REQUIRE OF APPLICANTS BECAUSE TREASURY'S ASKING US FOR THE INFORMATION, AND SO WE HAVE TO ASK THE CLIENT FOR THAT INFORMATION.
UM, AND, AND DID THE COMMUNITY HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR INPUT ON THIS IN TERMS OF THE US TREASURY, UM, ITEMS? UM, I, I DON'T THINK ANY COMMUNITY HAD INPUT ON WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS, IS REQUESTING.
UM, WE'VE BEEN ASKED WHAT THEY COULD DO TO STREAMLINE, UM, AS CITIES, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY REACHED OUT TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
UM, I, I MEANT THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT, UM, COUNCILMAN, THIS WAS ACTUALLY, UH, A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL AFTER WE DID THE SURVEY, AND THE SURVEY THAT THAT WAS DONE OF TENANTS AND LANDLORDS IDENTIFIED A GAP WHERE WE NEEDED TO HAVE MORE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE IN HANDHOLDING FOR A SPECIFIC POPULATION.
SO THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO WHAT THE COMMUNITY, UM, MAINLY THE LANDLORDS AND TENANTS WHO ARE APPLYING FOR THE APPLICATIONS SAID WE NEED, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE MEMBERS OR APPLICANTS CALLING OUR CALL CENTER, AND SOMETIMES A CALL TAKER COULD BE ON THE PHONE WITH SOMEBODY FOR AN HOUR AND STILL NOT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THEIR ISSUES.
SO WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO IS REFER THEM TO SOMEONE TO REALLY WALK THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS AND SPEND THE TIME THEY NEED TO, TO GET THIS APPLICATION COMPLETE, VERSUS HAVING THIS PERSON HANG UP AND THEN CALL AGAIN WHEN THEY HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION AND, AND DISTRACT OUR CALL CENTER FROM BEING ABLE TO ADDRESS THE, THE ACTUAL PROCESS ISSUES.
AND THEN THE, THE TYPICAL, YOU KNOW, REGULAR CALLS WE GET REGARDING THE APPLICATION.
SO THIS IS IN RESPONSE WHAT THE COMMUNITY SAID WE NEEDED.
BUT I, I GUESS MAYBE WE CAN CIRCLE BACK WITH THOSE SAME FOLKS TO, TO JUST GET INPUT ON, ON, ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM ITSELF AND HOW IT, HOW IT'S BEING STRUCTURED.
UM, SO, AND THEN, UM, LAST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT EACH COUNCIL OFFICES IS, ARE, ARE AWARE OF THE PARTNERSHIP.
IF THE CONTRACT IS APPROVED, I ASK THAT N H H D, UM, LIAISON MEET WITH OUR CONSTITUENT SERVICES STAFF FOR EACH DISTRICT AND BRIEF THEM ON HOW TO BEST CONNECT QUALIFYING CLIENTS WITH SERVICES.
WELL, THAT, THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.
UH, OH, I THINK, UH, COUNCILMAN COURAGE RAISED HIS HAND.
YOU KNOW, I HAD ONE MORE QUESTION THAT KIND OF ADDRESSES, UH, THE STATE PROGRAM SINCE IT CAME UP.
AND I'M JUST WONDERING, UH, HAVE, HAVE WE, AS THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, TRIED TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE STATE TO, TO USE WHAT WE ARE DOING TO FIT INTO THEIR PROGRAM OR THEIR APPLICATION PROCESS SO THAT IT MIGHT BE A, A FAIRLY EASY TRANSITION SO THAT IF PEOPLE APPLY THROUGH US THAT WE'VE GOT THE SAME INFORMATION THAT THE STATE WOULD NEED AND WE COULD LITERALLY TRANSFER THAT APPLICATION, SO TO SPEAK TO THE STATE, TO PROCESS AND MAYBE USE THEIR MONEY RATHER THAN OURS IF WE TRIED TO DO THAT.
IS, IS THERE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT? IS THE STATE WILLING TO WORK WITH THAT WAY? BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THE BIGGEST PROGRAM IN THE STATE WHEN IT COMES TO EMERGENCY HOUSING ASSISTANCE.
SO WHAT CAN YOU, AND I'LL, AND I, I'LL START AND SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM DAY ONE, WE HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH T D H C A AND
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THE STATE REGARDING OUR RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.UM, WE'VE ALSO, WHEN THEY WERE SETTING THEIRS UP, WE REACHED OUT, OFFERED THEM SOME INPUT AND LESSONS LEARNED.
UM, WE'VE EVEN OFFERED TO ADMINISTER THOSE APPLICATIONS FOR THOSE FROM BEXAR COUNTY, UM, AND ACTUALLY TAKE AN ALLOCATION AND MANAGE THAT.
SO WE HAVE OFFERED A LOT OF ASSISTANCE ON OUR END.
UM, THEY ARE WORKING WITH US ON A STREAMLINED PROCESS, KIND OF A CHECKS AND BALANCE WHERE WE CAN SEE THE APPLICANT APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED AND APPROVED FROM THE CITY OR COUNTY.
UM, SO WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH 'EM ON THAT.
AND THERE'S A REGULAR CALL WITH OTHER CITIES THROUGHOUT TEXAS THAT VERONICA AND EDWARD GONZALEZ PARTICIPATE TO, TO HELP STREAMLINE THAT EFFORT.
VERO, DO YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING? LAURIE, SUCCESS, RIGHT? UM, WE KNEW THEY, WE COULD DO THE PROGRAMMING IN OUR COUNTY.
WE DO HAVE ACCESS TO THE DUPLICATE, UM, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE DUPLICATES, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HELP THE SAME FAMILY FOR THE SAME MONTH.
UM, AND, AND WE CONTINUE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, JUST LIKE WE CONTINUE TO MEET WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS FOR EHA.
WE KEEP TELLING THEM THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE STRUGGLING.
WE'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE THE, SOME OF THE FUNDING AND ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM LOCALLY.
THEY JUST HAVEN'T, UM, TAKEN IT AS UP US UP ON THAT OFFER.
IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD TALK WITH OUR STATE LEGISLATORS ABOUT? WE COULD.
I'LL BRING, I'LL TALK TO JEFF COYLE ABOUT THAT.
YEAH, I'D BE GLAD TO TALK TO LYLE LARSON OR, OR ANY OF THE OTHERS, UH, AND ENCOURAGE 'EM TO, YOU KNOW, USE, UH, THEIR LEVERAGE UP IN AUSTIN TO SIMPLIFY THE PROGRAM AND HELP MORE PEOPLE.
I KNOW THEY'VE HAD, I KNOW THEY'VE HAD, THEY'VE HAD A REALLY HARD TIME.
UH, BUT WE'VE GOT A GREAT PROCESS HERE.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, ANYWAY, I, I, I APPRECIATE THE UPDATE FROM THAT.
HOPEFULLY WE CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT.
COUNCIL MEMBER FOR, FOR, FOR THAT.
UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM FIVE, A BRIEFING
[5. 21-3338 Briefing and discussion of a Council Consideration Request (CCR) to review and potentially bring forward amendments to Chapter 21 Article III of the San Antonio Code that allow SAPD to enforce noise violations.]
AND DISCUSSION OF A COUNCIL CONSIDERATION, REQUEST TO REVIEW AND POTENTIALLY BRING FORWARD AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 21, ARTICLE THREE OF THE SAN ANTONIO CODE THAT ALLOW SS A P D TO ENFORCE NOISE VIOLATIONS, UH, C C R THAT WAS CO-AUTHORED, UH, BY MY COLLEAGUE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY AND MYSELF.UM, SO I DON'T KNOW WHO'S DOING THE PRESENTATION, BUT PLEASE PROCEED.
GOOD MORNING, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, THIS IS MIKE SHANNON, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR.
SO I'LL BE GIVEN THE PRESENTATION ON THIS TODAY.
SO, AS THE COUNCILMAN, UM, READ IN THE CAPTION, THIS IS ABOUT A A C C R THAT WAS ISSUED, UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, ALMOST TWO MONTHS AGO NOW.
UH, AND THE COUN, THE TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCILMAN, UH, TRAVINO AND COUNCILMAN PERRY HAD ASKED, HAD ASKED STAFF TO, UM, UH, CREATE A NOISE ORDINANCE TASK FORCE TO REVIEW OUR CURRENT NOISE CODE, OUR NOISE ORDINANCE, WHICH IS CHAPTER 21, AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY IMPROVEMENTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE CAN, UM, IDENTIFY AND BRING BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE IN A FEW MONTHS.
NOISE THRESHOLDS, HOURS OF OPERATIONS, UH, POSSIBLE LOW FREQUENCY NOISE ISSUES, UH, PENALTIES, ET CETERA.
UH, AND, UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
IF THEY DON'T MOVE IT, THEN I'LL JUST KEEP GOING.
SO, LET'S TALK ABOUT OUR QUICK, UH, NOISE ORDINANCE TODAY AND, AND HOW IT WORKS AND, AND WHAT WE DO IF WE GET THAT, UH, NOISE COMPLAINT.
UH, I THINK CHIEF MCMANUS IS, IS ON THE LINE.
SO, UH, D S D AND, AND, AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, WE, WE WORK TOGETHER TO ADDRESS ANY NOISE ORDINANCE VIOLATIONS.
A LOT OF THEM HAPPEN IN THE EVENING OR LATE EVENING HOURS, EARLY MORNING HOURS.
UH, THE RESPONSE WILL TYPICALLY BE, UM, S A P D, UH, BECAUSE OF THAT FACT, UH, WE'VE HAD OVER 44,000 CALLS, UH, SINCE JANUARY, 2020, UH, TO THE CITY ON, UH, NOISE COMPLAINTS.
UH, OF THOSE ONLY 56 CITATIONS WERE ISSUED.
BUT THAT'S BECAUSE MOST OF IT IS VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE.
UM, AND EVEN IF IT'S AN ENTERTAINMENT VENUE OR MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, OR EVEN A PART LIKE A HOUSE PARTY, WE GENERALLY GET, UH, VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE.
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FOR THIS C C R, UH, THERE'S BEEN MAYBE AN UPTICK OR A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPTICK IN, UH, SOME, UH, BARS AND OR, UH, OUTDOOR VENUES NEXT TO NEIGHBORHOODS.SO, UH, WE THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
SO, JUST LOOKING AT THE BREAKDOWN OF SOME NUMBERS, IF YOU BREAK 'EM DOWN BY COUNCIL DISTRICT AND THEN CERTAINLY, UH, THE, THE LATE, LATE HOURS, EARLY MORNING CALLS, YOU CAN SEE, UH, CERTAINLY, UM, A LOT OF THEM ARE HAPPENING IN THE, IN, IN, IN, IN INSIDE, UH, FOUR 10 OR INNER CITY DISTRICTS.
UH, BUT IT DOES HAPPEN EVERYWHERE.
I THINK EVERY ONE OF YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH NOISE, UH, COMPLAINTS WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME, UH, BUSINESSES OR SOME ROWDY HOUSE PARTIES THAT ARE, THAT ARE GOING ON FREQUENTLY.
SO THERE'S JUST A BREAKDOWN, UH, OF THOSE NUMBERS.
YOU, AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE MOST OF THEM ARE BETWEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, THE 10:00 PM 7:00 AM HOURS, BUT, UH, THEY DO HAPPEN, UH, ALL DAY.
UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS.
SO, WHAT, UH, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ASKED US TO DO, WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA, IS PUT TOGETHER A TASK FORCE OF NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVES AND BUSINESS REPRESENTATIVES ALONG WITH CITY STAFF, SS A P D CODE ENFORCEMENT CITY, THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND LOOK AT WHAT IMPROVEMENTS WE CAN MAKE.
AND IT COULD BE, UH, WHAT, WHAT PART OF THE CODE, UH, THE NOISE CODE NEEDS TO BE CHANGED, TWEAKED, MODIFIED, UH, MAYBE POLICIES, PROCEDURES, COMMUNICATION, ET CETERA.
UM, THE ONE HIGHLIGHTED THERE, THERE WERE THREE DISTINCT, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS IDENTIFIED IN THE C C R, KING, WILLIAM OAK PARK, NORTHWOOD, AND TOBIN HILL.
UH, A LOT OF ISSUES CURRENTLY HAPPENING THERE.
WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THOSE SPECIFIC, UH, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE BUSINESSES IN THERE.
UH, SOME, SOME UNIQUE CHALLENGES RIGHT NOW.
WE WANT TO TRY TO SIT DOWN, UH, THOSE FOLKS, UH, AND HEAR FROM THEM.
UH, BUT WE'RE ASKING THIS COMMITTEE, UH, TO IDENTIFY, UH, A NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SERVE ON THIS TASK FORCE.
SO THERE'S FIVE THAT'S KIND OF AN ACTION ITEM THAT WE'LL NEED FROM YOU ALL.
I THINK THE COUNCILMAN TREVINO MIGHT'VE, UH, SENT OUT A LITTLE COMMUNICATION TO YOU ALL ON THAT.
SO IF WE COULD QUICKLY GET THAT, UH, UH, REPRESENTATION FROM YOU THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, UH, SO THAT WE CAN GET STARTED ON, UH, HAVING OUR FIRST, UM, TASK FORCE MEETING THIS MONTH.
SO, WE DID BRING THIS TO GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE JUST A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, AND CERTAINLY THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE, UM, UH, RECOMMENDED WE MOVE THIS FORWARD, THAT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA THAT WE, WE ADDRESSED THIS ISSUE.
UH, THERE WERE A COUPLE COMMENTS, I'LL JUST PUT 'EM OUT THERE, UH, SOMETHING WE'LL BRING TO THE TASK FORCE, SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THESE.
BUT, UH, ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS MENTIONED, UH, MAYBE SOME VETERAN REPRESENTATION IF, UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR, UH, REPRESENTATIVE, THE TASK FORCE.
WE, UH, I THINK THE, UH, REPRESENTATIVE IN DISTRICT FOUR, UH, SHE HAD INDICATED THAT MAYBE, UH, SOME THAT HAVE, UH, P T S D RELATED ISSUES WITH, WITH LOUD NOISE OR, OR SOMETHING COULD BE, UH, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANTLY AFFECTED.
UM, CERTAINLY COUNCILMAN ENCOURAGER HERE, YOU BROUGHT UP WITH THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE, RIGHTFULLY SO, YOUR C C R THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, PUT ON HOLD WITH ALL THE OTHER CODE AMENDMENTS LAST YEAR IS, UH, THE ONE RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION NOISE.
THAT WAS THE GOOD NIGHT, GOOD NIGHT CONSTRUCTION SITE.
SO, AS WE MENTIONED, UH, WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NOISE CODE, WHETHER IT'S OUTDOOR, UM, FOOD AND BEVERAGE INDUSTRIES, UH, NEXT TO NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE STILL HAVE THAT ISSUE WITH CONSTRUCTION NOISE NEXT TO NEIGHBORHOODS.
UH, WE THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROBABLY HIT BOTH OF THESE AND, AND TRY TO TACKLE BOTH OF THOSE.
UM, THERE'S PROBABLY SOME OVERLAP THERE.
SO, UH, WE THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
AND, UH, THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT MOTORCYCLE RALLIES, UH, AND LOUD MOTORCYCLE NOISE IN NEIGHBORHOODS.
UH, I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH THAT, BUT I, I TOLD THEM, UH, I TOLD THE COUNCILWOMAN WE WOULD, UH, WE WOULD LOOK INTO THAT AND SEE, UH, WHAT THE, WHAT THE CURRENT CODE ADDRESS IS, AND THEN, UH, IF THERE'S AN IMPROVEMENT WE CAN MAKE THERE.
SO, REALLY, IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THIS NEXT STEPS.
LET'S IDENTIFY AND CONFIRM, UH, THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS.
UH, SOME OF THEM, I, I THINK, UH, WE, WE KNOW WHO THAT'S GONNA BE.
UH, WE WILL THEN START, MY GOAL IS TO START, UH, LATER THIS MONTH.
IF WE CAN IDENTIFY THE 15 MEMBERS OF THE TASK FORCE, UM, AND THEN RUN, RUN THROUGH THE SUMMER.
UH, THE, THE UNIQUE THING ABOUT THE C C R, WHICH I LIKED ABOUT IT, IS YOU ASKED US TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS WITHIN 90 DAYS AND BRING BACK SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO THIS COMMITTEE.
UM, AND, UH, SO I THINK WITH THAT, WE'LL HAVE SOME GOOD DIRECTION TO FOCUS ON, YOU KNOW, SOME KEY IMPROVEMENTS.
WE CAN, WE CAN BUILD CONSENSUS AROUND AND BRING BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE FOR GUIDANCE, UH, WHETHER YOU LIKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS OR NOT.
AND, UH, SO THAT SHOULD BE SOMETIME IN THE AUGUST TIMEFRAME.
UM, BUT, UH, AGAIN, END OF THE SUMMER.
SO, UH, THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION.
JUST, UH, CREATE THE TASK FORCE, UH, TO REVIEW THE ORDINANCE AND, UH, AND, AND GET STARTED HERE IN A COUPLE WEEKS.
BUT WE'LL NEED YOUR HELP WITH, UH, IDENTIFYING THAT THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS
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AS NOTED PRIOR.AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND START, UH, WITH, WITH COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY, SINCE HE CO-AUTHORED THE C C R, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY.
AND MIKE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
UH, WRAP UP IN THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, ON THE ORIGINAL NOISE ORDINANCE.
WHEN WAS THAT FIRST PUT TOGETHER? WHEN WAS THAT PASSED? UH, YOU WOULD, OH, YOU WOULD, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEEN ON THE BOOKS.
UM, THE CURRENT VERSION HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS, UH, AT LEAST SINCE, UH, 2001.
BUT I COULD CHECK TO SEE, UH, I, I WOULD IMAGINE WE HAD SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT, UH, PRIOR TO THAT, BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE CODE ONLINE RIGHT NOW.
IT DOES GIVE, UH, THE OH ONE, UH, TIMELINE, BUT IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT FURTHER THAN THAT, TOO.
YEAH, SO, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 20 YEARS THAT THIS ORDINANCE HAS BEEN ON AND OVER 20 YEARS.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF INFILLS, UH, HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS, UH, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL, UH, BUSINESSES OPENING UP, INCLUDING BARS AND, AND THAT KIND OF THING WITH OUTSIDE ENTERTAINMENT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THE RUB COMES IN, IS, UH, WHO WAS HERE FIRST AND, AND, UH, WHO, WHO TAKES PRIORITY ON A LOT OF THESE, A LOT OF THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES.
SO, UH, UH, I, I THINK IT IS TIME THAT WE GO THROUGH AND, AND REVIEW THIS BECAUSE THERE, THERE ARE SOME, THERE ARE SOME IMPEDIMENTS ON TRYING TO ENFORCE THE CURRENT CODE, AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET AROUND THOSE IMPEDIMENTS.
SO WE'VE, WE'VE, UM, YOU KNOW, E EVEN TO THE POINT OF MEASURING SOUND COMING OUT OF PARTICULAR PLACES, YOU KNOW, WHO'S GOT THE RIGHT EQUIPMENT AND WHEN DO YOU PUT IT OUT THERE, AND HOW DO YOU PUT IT OUT THERE AND, AND WHAT ARE YOU MEASURING? UH, IT, IT JUST GOES ON AND ON.
AND, AND I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS WHOLE PROCESS AND SEE, SEE WHERE WE HAVE LIMITATIONS AND HOW WE CAN WORK THOSE OUT.
BECAUSE WE STILL DO GET A, AS YOU SAW, A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UH, CALLS FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY.
IT'S NOT CONFINED TO ONE, ONE AREA, BUT WHAT REALLY BROUGHT THIS TO LIGHT WAS, UH, ALONG BROADWAY AND I SHARE BROADWAY WITH COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE, COUNCILMAN TRAVINO.
AND THERE'S SEVERAL, UH, AREAS THAT HAVE, UH, OUTDOOR VENUES WITH NEIGHBORHOODS RIGHT NEXT TO 'EM.
AND, UH, CREATES ALL KIND OF ISSUES WITH DISTURBING, UH, PEOPLE'S SLEEP AND GETTING TO BED.
'CAUSE AS, YOU KNOW, UH, BARS STAY OPEN TILL TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, AND, UH, THESE VENUES ARE GET, GET PRETTY LOUD OUT THERE.
SO YEAH, WE, WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, AND WE GOTTA STRIKE A BALANCE SOMEWHERE, UH, WITH TIME AND, UH, NOISE LEVELS AND HAVE IT VERIFIABLE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE COME UP WITH THE RIGHT THINGS TO HELP, UH, SETTLE THOSE DIFFERENCES.
BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T HAVE AN OUTSIDE, UH, VENUE, SOME INSIDE VENUES CREATE JUST AS MUCH SOUND OUTSIDE AS THE ONES WITH OUTSIDE VENUES.
SO, YEAH, I, WE JUST NEED TO TAKE, TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THIS.
AND I, I LIKE THE APPROACH MIKE, ON GETTING REPRESENTATIVES FROM INDUSTRY AS WELL AS NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, PEOPLE THAT HAVE ACTUALLY DEALT WITH THESE ISSUES BEFORE.
SO, UH, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT FIRST STEP AND, UH, LET'S SEE WHERE IT GOES AND, AND SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, BUT WE, WE REALLY NEED TO HAMMER OUT THE, THE, THE POLICY AND THEN HOW WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY, UH, CARRY THAT POLICY OUT.
I'M VERY INTERESTED IN THAT ON, ON HOW THE STAFF WILL COME UP WITH, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE GONNA DO IT.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA USE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
SO, YEAH, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS.
AND I, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE AROUND THE CITY THAT'S LOOKING FORWARD ALSO.
COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE.
AND I, UH, I TOTALLY CONCUR WITH, UH, WHAT MY FRIEND COUNCILMAN PERRY HAD TO SAY ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, NOISE FROM ENTERTAINMENT VENUES IS PREVALENT EVERYWHERE, UH, I'M SURE MORE SO IN SOME PLACES THAN OTHERS.
AND I KNOW THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ADDRESSING.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT THIS SHOULD NOT BE A LAW ENFORCEMENT ISSUE.
THIS SHOULD BE A CODE ISSUE THAT SHOULD BE HANDLED BY D S D.
AND SO I'M GONNA ASK, UH, MIKE SOME QUESTIONS.
UH, MIKE, HOW MANY CODE OFFICERS DO YOU HAVE EMPLOYED
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TO, UH, GO OUT AND WORK ON ALL OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF CODES IN PLACE THAT, UH, YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE ARE ADHERED TO? UH, IT'S ABOUT 110 CODE OFFICERS, SIR.UH, IS EVERY ONE OF THOSE OFFICERS TRAINED IN EVERYTHING THAT'S A CODE, POSSIBLE CODE VIOLATION, OR DO YOU HAVE SOME THAT ARE TRAINED IN CERTAIN AREAS OF COMPLIANCE? UH, SO THE ANSWER IS YES AND YES.
SO EVERY, UH, EVERY LICENSED CODE OFF, I MEAN, EVERY ONE OF OUR CODE OFFICERS GOES THROUGH THE GENERAL TRAINING AND THEN BECOMES A LICENSED CODE OFFICER IN, UH, NORMAL CODE ENFORCEMENT CODES.
UH, AND THEN WE DO HAVE SOME THAT GO ON AND GET FURTHER, UH, SPECIALTY, UH, TRAINING AND CERTIFICATION AND, AND DESIGNATION, UH, QUITE POSSIBLY, UH, ZONING, UH, ZONING INSPECTOR OR DANGEROUS PREMISE, A LITTLE MORE STRUCTURAL, UH, UH, CONSIDERATIONS, ET CETERA.
SO A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH THERE.
SO, UH, HOPEFULLY THAT, UH, GIVES YOU THE
SO SOMEONE WHO DOES CONSTRUCTION MIGHT HAVE DIFFERENT TRAINING, UH, FROM SOMEBODY WHO GOES OUT AND LOOKS AT, UH, LAWNS THAT ARE OVERGROWN, OR RATS MIGHT BE OUT IN, UH, AN OPEN AREA THAT COULD BE A HEALTH HAZARD, SO TO SPEAK.
SO THERE YOU DO HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE A LITTLE MORE SPECIALIZED THAT YOU USE MM-HMM.
HOW MANY OF THEM WORK AT NIGHT? CURRENTLY, OUR SHIFT IS NOT AT NIGHT.
WE, WE GENERALLY WORK, UM, YOU KNOW, THE SEVEN 30 TO 5:00 PM UH, WE, WE DO HAVE A FEW ON A 10 HOUR DAY, MAY GO TO SIX.
UH, WE GENERALLY WORK MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.
SATURDAY, UH, ON SPECIAL OCCASIONS WE WILL WORK, UH, YOU KNOW, SUNDAY WE ARE KIND OF 24 7 ON, UH, EMERGENCY ISSUES.
USUALLY THOSE ARE THE FIRE EVENTS WHERE THERE'S A, A NEED FOR A STRUCTURAL CONSIDERATION WITH OUR, UH, STRUCTURAL EXPERTS IN CODE AND THE BUILDING AND ALL THAT.
WELL, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I UNDERSTOOD, AND I THINK THAT'S THE SHORTCOMING WE HAVE IN, IN YOUR OFFICE.
UH, I BELIEVE THAT THE NOISE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCED DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO HAVE A POLICE OFFICER GO OUT THERE.
THEY'RE OUT THERE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND ALTHOUGH NOISE CAN BE VERY ANNOYING, IT, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF SAFETY.
UH, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT INCREASING THE NUMBER OF CODE COMPLIANCE PEOPLE AVAILABLE, AND THAT THEY SHOULD BE WORKING IN NIGHT SHIFTS SO THAT THEY CAN BE GOING OUT THERE.
THEY'RE TRAINED IN NOISE ABATEMENT AND UN UNDERSTANDING THE NOISE, UH, ORDINANCE.
THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO OUT THERE AND FREE THE POLICE TO DO THE OTHER MORE IMPORTANT ISSUES.
THEY'VE GOTTEN THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF CALLS FROM PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT NOISE.
LET'S NOT TAKE A POLICE OFFICER OUT OF THE WAY OF FIGHTING CRIME TO GO AHEAD AND ATTEND TO NOISE.
AND SO I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS LOOKED AT VERY CLOSELY BY THIS COMMITTEE.
AND THAT SHOULD BE, UH, A STRONG CONSIDERATION, UH, SO THAT, UH, UH, RIGHT NOW, A CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICER CAN ISSUE A CITATION, ISN'T THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.
WHICH IS, WHICH IS NO MORE THAN A POLICE OFFICER WOULD DO.
SO, YOU KNOW, I I, I JUST WANNA STRONGLY EMPHASIZE, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE THE DIRECTION WE GO IN.
UH, AND I THINK THE CHIEF WOULD PROBABLY AGREE WITH ME.
HE'D MUCH RATHER HAVE HIS PATROL OFFICERS LOOKING FOR BAD GUYS INSTEAD OF THE NUISANCE OF NOISE, WHICH IS, IS VERY MEANINGFUL TO THE NEIGHBORS NEARBY.
UH, ALSO, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEONE TALKED ABOUT INCLUDING A VETERAN ON THAT COMMITTEE, I HAD A VERY REAL EXPERIENCE, UH, WHEN SOMEONE CAME UP TO ME AND SAID, HEY, I'M A VETERAN.
UH, I HEAR LOUD NOISES AND IT, IT JUST SETS ME BACK.
IT CAUSES MENTAL STRESS TO ME.
UH, AND I THINK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR PROBLEM WAS BIG GARBAGE TRUCKS COMING OUT AT FIVE 30 IN THE MORNING AND RAISING UP, UH, THESE BIG, UH, BINS AND DROPPING THEM ON THE GROUND AND CREATING NOISE THAT SOUNDS LIKE GUNSHOTS OR SOMETHING TO THEM.
BUT IT, IT JUST GOES TO SHOW THAT, YES, I THINK HAVING A VETERAN WHO HAS THAT KIND OF HISTORY OF SENSITIVITY TO THOSE NOISES SHOULD ALSO BE INCLUDED IN HERE.
SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS ON THIS.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I WISH THE COMMITTEE SUCCESS AND I, I REALLY THINK THE CONSTRUCTION AVENUE, UH, SHOULD ALSO BE EXAMINED, UH, IN THE WORK FOR THIS COMMITTEE.
AND, AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE DID, UH, UH, HAVE LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS AROUND SOME OF THE, THESE ISSUES YOU
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JUST BROUGHT UP.NEXT IS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER VERAN.
SO, UM, FIRST, UH, I, I DON'T AGREE WITH THE MAKEUP OF THE TASK FORCE.
I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE BETTER BALANCED SIMPLY BECAUSE ALL OF THE, THE NOISE VIOLATIONS DON'T JUST HAPPEN ON THE NORTH SIDE.
UH, WE HAVE SOME IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR AS WELL.
THE PROBLEM WITH REPRESENTATION FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, AND HOUSING OR, OR THIS CULTURAL NEIGHBORHOOD COMMITTEE IS THE, THE MAYOR APPOINTS THE, THE MEMBERS OF THIS.
SO THIS, THE MEMBERS AND THE MAKEUP OF THIS COMMITTEE MAY CHANGE IN A MONTH.
UM, WELL, THEY WILL CHANGE IN A MONTH.
SO WILL IT BE THE SAME, UH, COUNCIL DISTRICTS OR NOT? SO I THINK WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BALANCE, WE NEED TO HAVE BALANCE A REPRESENTATION FROM ALL PARTS OF, OF THE, THE CITY AS PART OF THIS.
SO I WOULD SUGGEST HAVING, UM, AT LEAST SOMEONE FROM NORTH AND SOUTH AND, UH, MAYBE FOUR QUADRANTS REPRESENTED IN THE AREA FOR THIS AREA.
UM, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT IN THE SOUTH AND SOUTHWEST SIDE OF TOWN, UM, SPECIFICALLY IN, UM, IN MILITARY DRIVE IN THAT AREA.
AND WE DEAL WITH A LOT OF THAT, A LOT OF THE MOTORCYCLE CLUBS, UM, AS WELL AS CAR CLUBS.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A REPRESENTATION FROM THE CAR CLUBS ON HERE TOO, JUST SO WE CAN GET THEIR, UM, UH, POINT OF VIEW OF WHAT HAPPENS.
AND, AND, AND ALSO, SO WE CAN ALREADY START THE COLLABORATION AND NOT WANTING TO SHUT DOWN CAR CLUBS, BUT HAVE A, UM, A GREAT CONVERSATION AND UNDERSTAND, UH, ONE ANOTHER.
UM, I'M ALSO CURIOUS TO KNOW HOW THIS IMPACT WILL, THIS WILL IMPACT, UH, AND HOW THE EDUCATION EFFORTS WILL GO OUT ON THIS WHEN IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, OUTDOOR FLEA MARKETS WHEN IT COMES TO CHURCH EVENTS, UM, FESTIVALS, WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT IN THE FUTURE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS, UM, IN THAT, IN THAT CAPACITY.
AND THEN, UM, I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO BRING ON BOARD IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE CHANGES IN ENFORCEMENT WITH OUR NOISE ORDINANCE, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH A D S D AND CODE ENFORCEMENT, WHAT HAVE YOU, ET CETERA.
I THINK WE NEED TO ALSO HAVE, I KNOW YOU SAW MUNICIPAL COURT, YOU HAVE, UM, CITY ATTORNEY, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO LET THE MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGES KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE THEY'RE PART OF THIS WHOLE LINE AND PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH, UM, AS WELL.
UH, THOSE ARE SOME, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS AND THOUGHTS MOVING FORWARD.
I'M LOOKING, MAYBE THEY CAN BE A PART OF THE WHOLE ENFORCEMENT CONVERSATION WHEN YOU FINALLY DO, WELL, WHEN YOU GET THE TASK FORCE TOGETHER.
THEY SHOULD, THERE SHOULD BE SOMEBODY, MAYBE FRED OR SOMEBODY THERE WHO CAN BE, UM, GIVE SOME INSIGHT ON WHAT, UH, CAN AND CANNOT HAPPEN.
WE ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT E YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT WELL ANYHOW, UM, SO THOSE ARE, UM, AND I AM REALLY INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT YOU ALL, WHEN THE, THE TASK FORCE COMES TOGETHER AND HAS A CONVERSATION WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, UM, CONSTRUCTION.
'CAUSE THAT IS A VERY BIG ISSUE.
SO I'M GLAD YOU ALL BROUGHT THAT UP.
'CAUSE SOME OF THEM START AT FIVE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING AND, UM, WE'RE GLAD WE'RE HAVING ENHANCEMENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY OR WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, UM, UH, JUST SOME SORT OF UNDERSTANDING AND MAYBE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY MEMBERS CAN BE A PART OF THIS CONVERSATION.
UH, AND FINALLY, SO, BUT, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE, NOT THAT IT WOULD, WE'RE LOOKING AT ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS, BUT I GUESS CHIEF, I WANNA UNDERSTAND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT DECIBEL LEVELS, BUT IF PEOPLE ARE COMING OUT OF THE BARS AT TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, 1150, AND THEY'RE YELLING AND SCREAMING, THAT IS STILL A CALL TO NINE ONE ONE OR TO POLICE NON-EMERGENCY, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.
THAT, THAT'S AN ORDER OF MAINTENANCE ISSUE, THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED BY POLICE.
AND I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN COURAGE THAT, UM, ON ITS FACE WITHOUT ANY COMPLICATIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, NOISE MATTERS SHOULD BE HANDLED BY CODE, BUT, UH, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS DEFINITELY AN ORDER MAINTENANCE ISSUE THAT NEEDS POLICE ATTENTION.
AND SO, UM, WHEN THERE ARE LOUD PARTIES OR, UM, JUST HOUSE PARTIES AND, AND IT'S JUST NOISY FOR EVERYONE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT'S WHEN MIKE CHANIN GOES OUT THERE AND HAS TO TELL THE PEOPLE TO PLEASE KEEP IT DOWN.
DO YOUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, DO THEY GO THROUGH TRAINING, LIKE
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DEESCALATION TRAINING? WELL, NOT, NOT, NOT NECESSARILY LIKE THE ONE YOU'RE REFERRING TO.AND I THINK THE COUNCILMAN CURS POINT AND, AND THE CHIEF'S COMMENTS THAT THIS DISCUSSION WE'RE GONNA NEED TO HAVE, BECAUSE MY CODE OFFICERS ARE NOT LICENSED PEACE OFFICERS, RIGHT? THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T CARRY A WEAPON.
UM, AND, AND I THINK THE CONVERSATION NEEDS TO HA HAPPEN IF WE MOVE, UH, DOWN THAT DIRECTION, WHICH ACTUALLY EVEN, I THINK THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED THAT GOVERNANCE IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO DISCUSS, IS WHAT WOULD THE CODE OFFICERS NEED TO BE EQUIPPED WITH IF ADDITIONAL TRAINING, LIKE DEESCALATION TRAINING OR OTHERS, AS WELL AS POSSIBLY IDENTIFYING CERTAIN CATEGORIES OF COMPLAINTS.
DON'T NECESSARILY GO TO THE CODE OFFICER, BUT GO DIRECTLY TO PD.
AND THEN CERTAINLY, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DID, WE DID HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE WITH THIS, WITH THE EMERGENCY DECLARATION ENFORCEMENT OVER THE PAST YEAR WHERE CODE AND PD OFFICERS WORKED TOGETHER.
AND IF SOMETHING WERE TO BE IDENTIFIED, A CAUTIONARY ISSUE, UH, IF WE WERE TO ROLL UP ON THAT PD IS INCREDIBLE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BEING THERE.
UH, WE HAVE DIRECT CONTACTS AND ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
SO ALL THAT, ALL THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE WORKED INTO THIS DISCUSSION, AND WE'RE READY FOR THAT DISCUSSION.
WE'VE HAD SOME PRELIMINARY TALKS TO CHIEF AND I, UH, AND OUR STAFFS, BUT, UM, SO THAT, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A, A, A TRAINING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH IF WE WERE TO TAKE ON SOME OF THAT ADDITIONAL STUFF.
YEAH, AND I THINK, I MEAN, MIKE AND, AND LORI, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT JUST WHAT D S D CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WANT, NUMBER ONE.
I THINK WE NEED ABSOLUTELY MORE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, OBVIOUSLY, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, AS WE'RE HAVING THE DISCUSSION ABOUT POLICE SERVICES.
UM, BUT TWO, I THINK THAT DEESCALATION TRAINING, OR JUST TRAINING IN GENERAL IS COMPLETELY ESSENTIAL, ESPECIALLY FOR PUBLIC FACING WORK THAT OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS DO EVERY SINGLE DAY.
UM, LORI, I WOULD EVEN SAY OUR ANIMAL CARE SERVICE OFFICERS, UM, NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF TRAINING LIKE THIS AS WELL.
COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, COUNCILOR ANDREW SULLIVAN.
UM, SO THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS, AS WE'RE ESTABLISHING, UM, THE CHANGES TO THE NOISE ORDINANCE, ARE WE GONNA BE LOOKING AT THE OVERLAP OF WHERE WE CAN ESTABLISH THESE QUIET ZONES? UH, I WOULD, I WOULD THINK SO, COUNCILWOMAN, I WOULD THINK THAT THIS TASK FORCE, WHILE WE'VE GIVEN A CHARGE TO, UH, LOOK AT SPECIFICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, NOISE FROM BUSINESSES NEXT TO, UH, RESIDENCES, CERTAINLY BRINGING INTO CONSTRUCTION, BUT AS YOU'VE ALREADY, UH, HEARD SO FAR, JUST IN THIS DISCUSSION, THERE IS GONNA BE SOME OVERLAP.
UM, AGAIN, WHETHER IT'S, UM, I THINK THE COUNCILWOMAN, UH, TALKED ABOUT FESTIVALS OR, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS, AND NOW, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE QUIET ZONES.
I, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT IN BECAUSE THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE IN CHAPTER 21 ALREADY, RIGHT? AND, AND IT IS, THE QUIET ZONES ARE IN ARTICLE THREE, WHICH IS DIRECTLY REFERENCED BY THIS CHART.
SO I THINK THERE'S THE SHORT ANSWER I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE JUST STARTED WITH, YES, BUT I'M GIVING IT TO SOME CONTEXT THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK SOME OF THESE, YOU KNOW, UH, SOME OF THIS OVERLAP WILL COME UP AND, AND BE DISCUSSED.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OPEN TO THAT DISCUSSION.
WE'RE OPEN TO SEE WHERE WE CAN MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, CERTAINLY THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS, UH, I'M SURE WE'LL, UH, HAVE A GOOD DIALOGUE ABOUT IT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM THEIR DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW.
SO, UH, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
AND THEN WILL THE CONVERSATION ABOUT UD CHA, UH, U D C CHANGES TO WHERE BARS AND OUTDOOR VENUES CAN BE ESTABLISHED, ALSO BE A PART OF THIS CONVERSATION.
UH, I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL BE, UH, THE END RESULT OF THIS CONVERSATION, BUT AGAIN, I THINK THIS WILL BE PART OF IT.
AND, AND AS WE START OPENING UP THE U D C PROCESS AGAIN, WHICH IS PROBABLY A CONVERSATION WE'RE GONNA START HAVING IN THE SUMMER OR LATE SUMMER, UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE AS WE ALWAYS SAID, AS THE PANDEMIC, YOU KNOW, GETS A LITTLE BIT BEHIND US, AND THE NUMBERS START INCRE, YOU KNOW, BEING MORE, I DON'T WANNA SAY MORE POSITIVE THAT I THINK THAT'S WRONG, RIGHT? MORE NEGATIVE, I GUESS.
UH, BUT IN A GOOD WAY, THINGS ARE SAFER.
WE WOULD OPEN UP THAT U D C PROCESS.
SO ANYTHING WE LEARNED FROM THIS DISCUSSION, IF THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT A PARTICULAR U D C CHANGE THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY'RE ALLOWED, WHAT ZONES, WHAT CRITERIA, ET CETERA, THEN WE'LL BRING THAT TO THAT SEPARATE U D C PROCESS.
BUT, UM, I, I DON'T THINK IT'LL BE WHAT WE BRING BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE NECESSARILY IN AUGUST.
UH, BUT FOR MAYBE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS THAT IT CAME UP OR NOT.
AND THEN WITHIN THIS, UH, ESTABLISHMENT OF, OF THE QUIET ORDINANCE OR THE NOISE ORDINANCE, WILL THERE BE LIKE
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A DESIGNATED SIGNAGE FOR A NOISE FREE ZONE? I, I DON'T KNOW.I, I, I'LL I'LL SEE WHAT THE TASK FORCE COMES UP WITH, BUT I'LL WRITE IT DOWN.
UH, LEMME, LEMME WRITE THAT NOTE DOWN AND MAKE SURE WE AT LEAST TALK ABOUT IT.
WELL, THOSE ARE ALL MY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS.
AND I'LL JUST, I'LL CLOSE OUT BY, UH, THANKING, THANKING, UH, YOU MIKE, UH, THE PRESENTATION, UH, AND, AND ALSO FOR THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE FOR TAKING THIS UP SO SWIFTLY, UM, CHAPTER 21, ARTICLE THREE, WHILE WELL INTENDED, HAS NOT MET THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND EVERYONE, INCLUDING OUR CITY STAFF, RECOGNIZES THIS POTENTIAL TASK FORCE AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO STRENGTHEN OUR NOISE ORDINANCE AND PROVIDE MORE CLARITY FOR EVERYONE.
THE REOPENING OF BUSINESSES HAS SHUTTERED BY, UH, AS SHUTTERED BY C OVID 19 HAS ONLY MAGNIFIED NOISE ISSUES IN POPULAR NIGHTLIFE SPOTS LIKE SOUTH TOWN, OR THE STRIP NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE KING WILLIAM AND TOBIN HILL ARE SOME OF THE MOST FREQUENT, FREQUENT PATRONS OF NEARBY BUSINESSES, BUT UNDERSTANDABLY, THEY ARE REASON THE REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF PEACE DURING THE QUIET HOURS.
UH, FOOD AND BEVERAGE BUSINESSES WANT TO BE VIABLE AND GROW, YET KNOW A MA A A MAJOR PART OF THEIR SUCCESS IS DEPENDENT ON THE SUPPORT OF NEIGHBORHOODS.
NEITHER WANT TO DEMONIZE THE OTHER, WHICH IS WHY I AM GRATEFUL, UH, A DIVERSE GROUP OF NEIGHBORHOOD STAKEHOLDERS, THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE INDUSTRY, SAN ANTONIO RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION, AND THE NORTH ST.
MARY'S BUSINESS ASSOCIATION WILL HOPEFULLY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE ON THIS TASK FORCE.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THE COLLABORATION AND IN-DEPTH DISCUSSION ON AREAS LIKE LOW FREQUENCY NOISE AND ENFORCEMENT HOURS.
SINCE THERE ARE LEGAL AND ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS TIED TO THE NOISE, UH, TO NOISE AND NOISE VIOLATIONS, WE FELT IT'S IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE SS A P D AND CODE ENFORCEMENT.
UM, I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE PARTICIPATION AND THE WILLINGNESS TO, TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.
I WANNA THANK MY COLLEAGUE COUNCILMAN PERRY, FOR HIS THOUGHTFULNESS ON A POLICY WHICH HAS AN IMPACT ON RESIDENTS' QUALITY OF LIFE, AND THE VITALITY OF SMALL BUSINESSES ACROSS SAN ANTONIO.
AND I WOULD BE GRATEFUL FOR THE COMMITTEE SUPPORT ON MOVING THIS ITEM FORWARD AS IT PROVIDES MORE CLARITY AND CONSISTENCY ON A CONCERN SHARED BY NEIGHBORHOODS AND ABU ABIDING BUSINESSES ACROSS THE CITY.
I WANNA ENSURE THAT N H S D IS KEPT IN THE LOOP.
I UNDERSTAND THAT GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE HAD PUT ON, UH, NOISE ISSUES LIKE FIREWORKS CONSTRUCTION, AND VEHICULAR NOISE.
UH, THOSE ITEMS MERIT A DEEPER DISCUSSION.
I JUST WANT TO ENSURE THE CHARGE OF THIS TASK FORCE IS SPECIFIC, AND THEY, THEY DO NOT, THEY DO NOT GET BOGGED DOWN WITH DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE NOISE ORDINANCE.
I WANT TO THANK GEMMA KENNEDY OF RIVER ROAD AND DR.
JOHN DOKI OF KING WILLIAM FOR THEIR WILLINGNESS TO BE A PART OF THE TASK FORCE.
UH, AND OF COURSE, I WANNA THANK ALL MY COLLEAGUES FOR THEIR THOUGHTFUL COMMENTS.
AS WE CAN SEE, THIS IS AN ITEM THAT HAS REALLY NEEDED, UH, UH, UH, A REVISIT.
UH, WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE, THE, UH, AND AGREE WITH THE, THE COMMENTS ABOUT ASKING OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, UH, TO, TO BE, UH, INVOLVED WITH THIS, TO WORK WITH MIKE SHANNON THROUGHOUT ALL THIS.
AND I WANNA THANK, UH, AGAIN, SPECIFICALLY, UH, MIKE AND, UH, CHIEF MCMANUS FOR, FOR THEIR HELP AND ASSISTANCE ON HELPING US, UH, CRAFT THIS, UH, AS WELL AS ALL THE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS WE JUST MENTIONED.
UM, DO WE NEED ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ITEM, MIKE? NO, I, I THINK THIS WAS JUST LISTED AS, UM, BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION, SO NO ACTION NEEDED.
I THINK THE GOVERNANCE DID, UH, PROVIDE THAT ACTION SO WE CAN GET STARTED.
UH, AGAIN, I THINK IF, IF YOU ALL COULD JUST IDENTIFY YOUR, UH, YOUR APPOINTMENTS, UH, TO ME AND AMIN, UH, AND CHIEF, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT HOPEFULLY WEEK OR SO, UH, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
AND, UH, AND I'LL WORK WITH YOU AND YOUR, UH, UH, YOUR OFFICES ABOUT THAT FIRST MEETING, UH, PROBABLY IN A COUPLE WEEKS.
I THINK THAT'LL, THAT'LL BE ABOUT THE RIGHT TIMEFRAME.
UH, WITH THAT, UH, SOMEBODY RAISE THEIR HAND.
YEAH, I HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION.
SO THAT MEANS THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE ALREADY OKAYED THE TASK FORCE MAKEUP, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THEY, THEY DID, UH, THAT WAS PART OF THEIR, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT WAS PART OF THEIR APPROVAL, UH, AS, AS WAS PROPOSED.
UH, IT WAS A VERY SIMILAR PRESENTATION
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TO THEM.UM, AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO, UH, TALK ABOUT ADDITIONAL PEOPLE ON THE TASK FORCE AS ONE OF YOUR COMMENTS, UH, I'D PROBABLY GET WITH LEGAL ON THAT A LITTLE BIT.
UH, WE CAN TALK OFFLINE ON THAT, OR WE CAN TALK NOW.
NO, I THINK, BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE, HOW IS THIS, UM, SO HOW LONG IS THIS TASK FORCE SUPPOSED TO, FOR EXAMPLE, BEATING DOWN MY STREET? SO HOW LONG IS THIS TASK FORCE SUPPOSED TO BE IN OPERATION? YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE SHOOTING FOR THE SUMMER ABOUT THREE, THREE MONTHS OR SO.
SO TO SEE WHAT WE CAN, TO SEE WHAT WE CAN TACKLE THAT IN THAT, THAT LENGTH OF TIME.
SO ONCE, SO ONCE IT'S, UM, ESTABLISHED, THESE ARE IN UNTIL AUGUST GENERALLY? YES.
AND SO, UM, SO IF THIS, THE GOVERNANCE APPROVED THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS AND THE TASK FORCE MAKEUP, WHICH DID NOT INCLUDE ALL PARTS OF TOWN.
SO THAT MEANS THAT IF IT'S, IF IT'S 1, 2, 9, AND 10, THEN THEY'RE IN THIS TASK FORCE UNTIL AUGUST, UH, AT 1, 2, 3, 9, AND 10.
THIS COMMITTEE, THIS, THIS COMMITTEE GETS SPECIFIC APPOINTMENTS.
THERE'S THREE ADDITIONAL, I I MEAN, WE COULD PUT THAT SLIDE BACK UP.
THERE'S 15 TOTAL, BUT, UH, RIGHT, RIGHT.
THERE'S, THERE'S THESE, THESE FIVE DISTRICTS, UH, AS PROPOSED IN THE CT R UH, GETTING AND THREE AND THREE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DON'T INCLUDE 2, 4, 6 OTHER ONES.
I THINK YOU'RE, I, YEAH, I THINK I JUST WANT TO, TO, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, UM, OR THE RECORD, UH, SO MY CONSTITUENTS KNOW THAT I AM, UM, ASKING FOR THEM AND ASKING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS TOO.
SO, ALRIGHT, IF YOU'RE TELLING ME THIS IS WHAT THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE SAID, THANK YOU FOR THE BRIEFING.
UH, THANKS AGAIN, MIKE, FOR, FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND I THINK THAT WRAPS UP OUR ITEMS FOR TODAY.
WELL, EVERYBODY HAVE A GOOD DAY.