* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:06] COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, GRO HERE. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. THANK YOU. AND GREAT COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO AND CHAIR SANDOVAL. HERE. WE HAVE A CORNER. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, EVERYBODY. UM, HOLD ON ONE SECOND. [1. 21-3625 Municipal Golf Association – San Antonio (MGA-SA) and review criteria of MGA-SA Board applications. [David W. McCary, Assistant City Manager; Homer Garcia III, Director, Parks and Recreation]] ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING STRAIGHT INTO, UH, THE GOLF ASSOCIATION ITEM. SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. MCCAREY FOR THAT. Y'ALL. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. UH, WE HAVE HOMER HERE TODAY WITH, UH, PARKS AND REC. I'LL LET HIM DO THE INTRODUCTIONS. HI. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. MADAM CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY NAME IS HOMER GARCIA, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR, AND I'LL BE CO-PRESENTING TODAY WITH ANDREW PETERSON. HE IS THE C E O OF ALAMO CITY GOLF TRAIL. AND THE ITEM THAT WE WANTED TO BRIEF, UH, THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND EQUITY COMMITTEE ON TODAY IS WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF FILLING SIX VACANT, UH, COUNCIL APPOINTED BOARD SEAT. AND SO, UH, WE WANTED TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY AND WHAT OUR RELATIONSHIP IS WITH THE GOLF ASSOCIATION, AND THEN KIND OF MAP OUT WHAT THE PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO FILLING THOSE VACANCIES. SO ON THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, WE WILL SEE AND HIGHLIGHT HIR. LET'S PULL UP THE SLIDES. UH, JAIR YOU'RE READY. OKAY. GIVE ONE SECOND. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. UH, JAIR. UM, AND SO AGAIN, UH, WE'RE GONNA HIGHLIGHT KIND OF WHAT OUR RELATIONSHIP IS WITH, UH, MUNICIPAL, UH, GOLF ASSOCIATION SAN ANTONIO. IT IS A NON-PROFIT ENTITY THAT THE CITY CREATED, UH, BACK IN 2007 TO MANAGE OUR BASICALLY PUBLIC GOLF SYSTEM. UH, AND WE SEE THE MISSION STATEMENT OF GOLF IS TO PROVIDE THE BEST QUALITY MUNICIPAL GOLF TO OUR CITIZENS AT A RATE THAT'S AFFORDABLE, UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS ALWAYS GONNA BE AN AMENITY AVAILABLE TO CITIZENS AND VISITORS ALIKE. UH, M G A S A DOES SEEK TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO ALL AND ENCOURAGES SENIOR PLAY, AS WELL AS PROMOTING JUNIOR GOLF NOW TO GET TO DRIVE THIS, UH, MISSION FORWARD. WE'LL SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE. UH, WE HAVE AN INITIAL CONTRACT, UH, WITH MUNICIPAL GOLF ASSOCIATION DATING BACK TO MAY, 2007. AND THERE WAS, WAS A TRANSITION PERIOD THAT WAS ENVISIONED WHERE AT THE TIME, YOU KNOW, THE CITY AS WE WERE RUNNING GOLF, UM, IT WAS NOT, I THINK, TO MEETING THE EXPECTATIONS AND STANDARDS OF, UM, CITIZENS AND VISITORS. AND SO THERE WAS AN IDEA WHY NOT CREATE, UM, THIS BODY THAT CAN DO IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND ULTIMATELY RAISE THE LEVEL OF PLAY AND VALUE OF OUR PUBLIC GOLF SYSTEM HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. SO, IN DOING SO, UH, WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS TO DATE. UH, FIRST ONE WAS IN 2012 WHERE WE MODIFIED SOME OF THE FINANCIAL TERMS, UH, AS GOLF ASSOCIATION WAS GETTING UP AND RUNNING. AND, UM, THEN IN 2015, WE ACTUALLY GREW THEIR PORTFOLIO, UH, BY ADDING NORTHERN HILLS GOLF COURSE TO, UH, THEIR LIST OF COURSES THAT THEY RUN. AGAIN, WE ALWAYS APPRECIATED THE PARTNERSHIP WITH MUNICIPAL GOLF ASSOCIATION AND THEM BEING WILLING TO STEP UP AND TAKE THAT ADDITIONAL DUTY OF, OF MANAGING THAT GOLF COURSE AS WELL. ON THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS KIND OF GIVES AN OVERVIEW OF OUR GOLF SYSTEM AND WHERE IT EXISTS. SO I'D LIKE TO TAG ANDREW IN AT THIS POINT SO HE CAN SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT HE DOES TO MAKE THIS AMENITY AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. THANK YOU, HOMER, AND NICE TO SEE EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR, UH, INVITING ME ON. UH, I THINK THIS FIRST SLIDE, WE JUST REALLY WANTED TO ILLUSTRATE WHERE THE GOLF COURSES SIT IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE CITY. SO STARTING FROM THE NORTH, WORKING DOWN TO THE SOUTH, WE'VE GOT, UH, ONE GOLF COURSE IN DISTRICT EIGHT. WE'VE GOT ONE IN 10. WE'VE GOT THREE GOLF COURSES IN DISTRICT ONE. WE'VE GOT ONE IN DISTRICT TWO, AND THEN TWO DOWN ON THE SOUTH SIDE IN DISTRICT THREE. UH, INSTEAD OF SHOWING A LOT OF BORING SLIDES, I THINK WE'VE GOT A QUICK VIDEO THAT WE WERE GONNA SHOW YOU THAT WILL HELP KIND OF ENCAPSULATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THE MUNICIPAL GOLF ASSOCIATION IS. [00:05:07] JAIR. ARE WE GOOD TO GO WITH THAT VIDEO? HE IS, HE'S PULLING IT UP RIGHT NOW. AWESOME. MY NAME IS ANDREW PETERSON, AND I'VE BEEN ENTRUSTED TO BE THE PRESIDENT AND C E O OF THE MUNICIPAL GOLF ASSOCIATION OF SAN ANTONIO. WE DO BUSINESS AS ALAMO CITY GOLF TRAIL, WHICH HELPS US LINK THE GOLF COURSES TOGETHER AS THEY'RE LOCATED ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. OUR ORGANIZATION EMPLOYS ROUGHLY 240 PEOPLE AND PLAYS UP TO 325,000 ROUNDS OF GOLF A YEAR. AND OUR MISSION STATEMENT'S ALWAYS BEEN TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE AND ACCESSIBLE GOLF TO ALL CITIZENS. WE REALLY FOCUS ON THE KIDS AND THE SENIORS, AND IT'S JUST A TREMENDOUS HONOR TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE THESE GOLF COURSES FOR THE CITIZENS OF SAN ANTONIO. UH, SINCE WE'VE BEEN AROUND SINCE 2007, WE'VE REINVESTED OVER $16 MILLION, AND NOT ONLY DO WE REINVEST BACK INTO THE GOLF COURSE TO CREATE A BETTER ASSET FOR THE CITIZENS OF SAN ANTONIO, BUT WE ALSO REINVEST BACK INTO OUR PEOPLE. SO WE'RE CONSTANTLY TRYING TO INCREASE OUR WAGES, INCREASE THE BENEFITS, AND INCREASE THE, UH, TOTAL EXPERIENCE FOR BOTH THE STAFF AND THE CUSTOMERS. AND WHAT I'VE SEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE THIS YEAR IS WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF NEW GOLFERS COME TO THE GAME. WE'RE SEEING SO MANY MORE KIDS THAN WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST. WE'VE SEEN SO MANY MORE WOMEN, WE'RE SEEING SO MANY MORE FAMILIES. AND THE AWESOME THING ABOUT SOME OF THE ALAMO CITY GOLF SHOW COURSES IS THEY'RE EXTREMELY FAMILY FRIENDLY. AND WHEN I SHOW UP TO VISIT THESE GOLF COURSES AND SEE THE FAMILIES OUT THERE AND THE DIFFERENT CULTURES AND GENERATIONS PLAYING TOGETHER, IT'S REALLY AWESOME BECAUSE WE OPERATE AS A NONPROFIT. WE'VE GOT BOARD OVERSIGHT. OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS IS MADE UP OF 15 INDIVIDUALS. SIX OF THEM ARE APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, SEVEN OF 'EM ARE AT LARGE MEMBERS, AND WE HAVE TWO EXOFFICIO, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO EMPLOYEES. WE HAVE SOME REALLY INCREDIBLE FINANCIAL PEOPLE ON OUR BOARD. WE HAVE AN ENGINEERS ON OUR BOARD, WE HAVE ARCHITECTS ON OUR BOARD. UM, WE HAVE RETIRED PEOPLE ON OUR BOARD, AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT KEEP THE EYE ON THE GOLF COURSES BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE BECAUSE THEY PLAY 'EM EVERY SINGLE DAY. UM, BUT WE, WE'VE GOT QUITE A GROUP AND EVERYBODY'S COMMITTED TO MAKING SAN ANTONIO OWL THE GOLF TRAIL OF COURSES BETTER. UH, WHAT I LOVE ABOUT GOLF IS IT'S A LIFETIME SPORT. UH, I CAN DO IT FOR THE, YOU KNOW, REST OF MY LIFE. IT'S ALSO SOMETHING I CAN DO WITH MY FAMILY, AND IT'S JUST A GREAT WAY TO GET OUT AND ENJOY NATURE AND GET A GOOD WALKIN AND GET SOME EXERCISE. IF YOU LOOK OUT HERE AT SAN PEDRO WHERE WE ARE TONIGHT, THERE'S FAMILIES OUT HERE. THERE'S EVERY GENERATION OF PEOPLE OUT HERE ENJOYING THE WEATHER. THE OTHER THING IS WITH SEVEN OR EIGHT AWESOME GOLF FACILITIES, AND THEY GET, THEY KEEP GETTING BETTER. UM, IT, IT'S JUST ANOTHER AMENITY FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. IT'S ANOTHER ATTRACTION, NOT ONLY FOR PEOPLE THAT WANNA MOVE HERE, BUT FOR TOURISTS AND PEOPLE THAT WANT TO COME AND VISIT HERE. WE HAVE ROUGHLY A $12 MILLION OPERATING BUDGET, AND WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE TO BE VERY SELF-SUFFICIENT, AND WE'VE RELIEVED THAT BURDEN FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WHEN WE TOOK OVER THOSE GOLF COURSES IN 2007. SO NOW ALL THE OPERATING PROCEEDS GET REINVESTED BACK INTO THE PROPERTIES. AND OUR STAFF, I GET ASKED A LOT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE BEST PART OF YOUR JOB? UH, I ALWAYS SAY IT'S THE CULTURE. SOME PEOPLE I WORK WITH, UH, WE'RE LIKE A BIG FAMILY. UH, IT'S LIKE HAVING BROTHERS AND SISTERS AROUND. IT'S, IT'S AWESOME. SINCE C OVID 19, I THINK IT'S REALLY SHOWN THAT GOLF HAS BEEN AN OUTSTANDING OUTLET FOR EVERYBODY TO PLAY, WHETHER IT IS CHILDREN, TEENAGERS, COLLEGE STUDENTS, WORKING FOLKS, AND SENIOR FOLKS. IT ALLOWS YOU TO GET OUTSIDE YOUR SOCIALLY DISTANCED AND YOU'RE ABLE TO HAVE FUN PLAYING A GAME OF GOLF WITH YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY. AND SO IT'S BEEN A GREAT RELIEF. GOLF IS IN A REALLY GOOD SPOT RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE SO FORTUNATE TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE THESE GOLF COURSES IN THE BEAUTIFUL CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. SUCH A RICH AND DIVERSE CULTURE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO WORK ON AS WE MOVE FORWARD IS DEVELOPING THE GOLF COURSES, DEVELOPING MORE GOLFERS, PROVIDING MORE OUTREACH, PROVIDING MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR STAFF AND GROWTH. AND IT'S JUST A COMPLETE HONOR TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE THE ALAMO CITY GOLF TRAIL COURSES FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. I GUESS MAYBE I DID LIE A LITTLE BIT. I THINK WE DO HAVE A FEW MORE BORING SLIDES, SO I'LL, UH, GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION AND THEN I'LL TURN IT [00:10:01] BACK OVER TO HOMER ON, UH, THE NEXT SLIDE. I THINK WE'RE ON NUMBER FIVE. HERE'S JUST SOME FACTUAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE MUNICIPAL GOLF ASSOCIATION. UH, YOU'LL SEE THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, UH, AS I MENTIONED IN THAT VIDEO AND, AND CERTAINLY MOVING FORWARD, OUR ROUNDS OF GOLF. OUR CUSTOMER BASE CONTINUES TO GROW, AND CORRESPONDINGLY, OF COURSE, OUR REVENUES DO. UH, AS OF TODAY, WE'VE GOT OVER 10,500 PEOPLE IN OUR MEMBERSHIP BASE. WE'VE GOT ROUGHLY 60,000 PEOPLE THAT SUBSCRIBE TO OUR CORRESPONDENCE. AND, UH, I THINK MOST IMPORTANTLY, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M MOST PROUD OF IS THAT WE HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH OVER 45 DIFFERENT SCHOOLS, UNIVERSITIES, UH, IN THE GREATER SAN ANTONIO AREA THAT WE PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE GOLF COURSE. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CONTINUALLY WORK ON IS DEVELOPING FUTURE GOLFERS, AND I THINK THE NEXT SLIDE WILL, WILL, UH, PLAY A LITTLE CREDENCE INTO THAT. ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE THERE, YOU'LL SEE THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF, OF AN AGE STANDPOINT WHERE OUR GOLFERS FALL. AND OF COURSE, WE KNOW THAT SENIOR GOLF IN SAN ANTONIO IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, AND WE'VE GOT A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE PLAYING GOLF, BUT IT'S THE SECOND FROM THE LEFT THAT AGE 25 TO 34, KIND OF IN THAT TYPICAL, UH, MILLENNIAL AGE GROUP, THAT'S THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF GOLFERS WE'VE GOT. AND THAT NUMBER'S REALLY GROWN DRASTICALLY THIS PAST YEAR, WHICH I THINK FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF CREATING GOLF FOR MANY, MANY GENERATIONS TO COME, GETTING PEOPLE HOOKED INTO PLAYING GOLF RIGHT NOW IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. AND WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY, REALLY PLEASED WITH THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT SO MANY YOUNGER PEOPLE PLAYING. AND THEN OVER ON THE LEFT, YOU'LL SEE THAT OUR MALE TO FEMALE RATIO IS, IS ROUGHLY 75 TO 25. AND, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE COUNCIL, WOMEN THAT, THAT ARE IN THE AUDIENCE, I KNOW THAT 25 LOOKS A LITTLE POULTRY, BUT COMPARED TO THE NATIONAL AVERAGE OF SLIGHTLY LESS THAN 20%, WE'RE OUTPERFORMING WHAT THE NATIONAL AVERAGE IS. SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO CREATE MORE PROGRAMMING THAT'S DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY FOR THE FEMALE AUDIENCE AS, UM, WE WANT LOTS AND LOTS OF WOMEN OUT THERE PLAYING. IT'S, IT'S REALLY FUN TO SEE LOTS OF WOMEN PLAYING WITH THEIR KIDS, WITH THEIR GIRLFRIENDS, UH, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE. BUT, UH, SOMETHING WE'RE DEFINITELY PROUD OF. AND THEN LASTLY, ON, UH, THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL JUST SEE A KIND OF A QUICK, UH, SUMMARY OF WHERE OUR INVESTMENTS HAVE GONE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO THE BOARD IS ENGAGING IN A LOT OF PARODIES. SO, UH, WE ALWAYS TRY TO REINVEST EQUALLY BACK INTO THE GOLF COURSES NO MATTER WHERE THEY'RE, WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED, OR HOW THEY'VE PERFORMED FINANCIALLY. UH, WE WANNA TRY TO RAISE ALL THE GOLF COURSES AND, AND RAISE THE BOAT, UM, EQUALLY ACROSS THE BOARD. SO THAT'S THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE. HOMER, I'LL LET, UH, YOU TAKE BACK OVER. THANK YOU, ANDREW. AND, UH, SO I WANTED TO CLARIFY SOMETHING. I THINK WHEN I WAS TALKING EARLIER ABOUT, UM, THE PURPOSE OF THE MEETING AND JUST KIND OF LAY OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA FILL THE SIX AVAILABLE, UH, COUNCIL APPOINTEES, THEY'RE NOT VACANT, SO THEY'RE ALL IN HOLDOVER STATUS, AND WE'LL REMAIN IN HOLDOVER STATUS UNTIL SUCH TIME WE MOVE FORWARD WITH FILLING THESE, UH, AND HAVING IT ADOPTED A FUTURE, A SESSION. SO, WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. UH, BUT AS ANDREW POINTED OUT, WE, UH, DO HAVE A 15 MEMBER BOARD BODY. SEVEN OF THEM ARE AT LARGE, SELECTED BY, UH, M G A SS A, AND THEN OF COURSE THERE'S THE SIX, UH, COUNCIL APPOINTEES. ANDREW MENTIONED. THERE ARE TWO EXOFFICIO MEMBERS. I SIT ON THE BOARD ALONG WITH, UH, MELANIE KEATON IN FINANCE. UH, AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE PEOPLE WE SAW IN THE VIDEO, THE BOARD REALLY IS A DIVERSE GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS WITH A WIDE RANGE OF PROFESSIONAL SKILLS. UH, AND THEY'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT GOLF. SO IN TERMS OF DRIVING, UH, POLICIES FORWARD FOR GOLF OPERATIONS, IT'S REALLY, UH, HELPFUL TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF INPUT AND SKILLSET AT THE TABLE. UM, THE BOARD MEETS ABOUT SIX TO SEVEN TIMES A YEAR. HOWEVER, THERE ARE NUMEROUS KIND OF SUBCOMMITTEES, AND THOSE ARE MEETING IN BETWEEN THE ACTUAL BOARD MEETINGS. YOU SEE SOME OF THE COMMITTEES HERE, UH, FINANCE, CONSTRUCTION, LONG RANGE PLANNING, AND DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION. SO ON THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, WE WILL HIGHLIGHT, UH, THE CALL FOR APPLICATIONS THAT, UH, OPENED UP ON APRIL 8TH. AND APPLICATIONS WERE DUE TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE ON APRIL 28TH. UM, OUTREACH DID INCLUDE A PRESS RELEASE NOTIFICATION TO ALL CITY COUNCIL OFFICES. AND THEN I KNOW, UH, ANDREW HAS, UH, INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THE ALMO CITY GOLF TRAIL WEBSITE AS WELL. AND, UH, WE'VE ESTABLISHED AN AD HOC REVIEW COMMITTEE SPECIFICALLY FOR VETTING APPLICATIONS THAT WILL COME IN, UH, AND THEN, WHICH WE WILL [00:15:01] BRING BACK THOSE, UH, SHORTLISTED CANDIDATES. UH, THE COMMITTEE WILL INCLUDE MYSELF, MELANIE, THE OTHER CITY, UH, BOARD OF, UH, EX-OFFICIO MEMBER, OUR ATTORNEY, STEVE WHITWORTH. UH, OF COURSE, WE NEED TO, UM, APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP WITH CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. AURORA WILL BE HELPING US REVIEW THOSE AS WELL AS, UH, ANDREW. AND THEN ON THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, WE WILL SEE THE CRITERIA THAT WE'RE GONNA UTILIZE REALLY, UM, STANDARD CITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY. UH, IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT'S GOING TO HAVE SUBMITTED APPLICATION THAT IS, UH, NOT A RESIDENT, THEN THEY WOULD NEED TO SEEK THAT WAIVER. UM, ADDITIONALLY WE TALKED ABOUT THE DIVERSE BOARD. AND IN SPEAKING WITH ANDREW, IT'S OUR GOAL TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A WELL-ROUNDED BOARD THAT DOES HAVE THE INDUSTRY KNOWLEDGE, AND CERTAINLY IS DIVERSE AND REPRESENTATIVE OF THE GOLF COMMUNITY, AND ALSO, OF COURSE, THE CITIZENS OF SAN ANTONIO. UM, NEXT STEPS, THE COMMITTEE WILL CONVENE, UH, WE WILL REVIEW THOSE APPLICATIONS. AND THEN RIGHT NOW WE'RE PROPOSING TO COME BACK TO, UH, THIS COMMITTEE ON MAY 27TH TO REVIEW THE APPLICATIONS, UH, FOR THE SIXTH, UH, TO ULTIMATELY RECOMMEND AND HAVE IDENTIFIED SIX, UH, APPOINTEES THAT WILL MOVE FORWARD FOR COUNCIL, UH, A SESSION, WHICH THEN THAT WOULD BE OCCURRING IN JUNE AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW. AND SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS IF THERE'S ANY FEEDBACK OR GUIDANCE THAT COMMUNITY HEALTH AND EQUITY COMMITTEE, UH, WANTS TO PROVIDE US SO THAT WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT INTO OUR REVIEW PROCESS, WE WILL CERTAINLY DO THAT. AND JIR, I BELIEVE THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE, AND SO, UH, I'M CERTAINLY AVAILABLE OR ANDREW, FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. THANK YOU, HOMER. THANK YOU, ANDREW. UH, BEFORE WE GO INTO DISCUSSION, UH, I HAVE SOME CLARIFYING QUESTIONS THAT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO PUT OUT THERE TO, TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. UM, SO COMMITTEE MEMBERS, I'VE HAD A, A DIALOGUE WITH, WITH HOMER RECENTLY, AND I SAID, HOMER, WHEN IT COMES TO OUR OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, UH, WE, WE COUNCIL MEMBERS REVIEW THEM, SELECT THEM, PUT THEM FORWARD, AND IT'S, IT'S A SEPARATE PROCESS FROM STAFF. SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THIS PARTICULAR BORDER COMMISSION SHOULD GO THROUGH A STAFF EVALUATION FIRST? YES. SO IT'S UNIQUE ABOUT THIS IS, UH, THE, IT'S NOT JUST AN ADVISORY BOARD. SO THERE ARE OTHER COURSE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WHERE THEY, THEY PROVIDE GUIDANCE TO DRIVE FORWARD WHATEVER THE ITEM MAY BE. IN THIS INSTANCE, UH, THE SIX, UH, REALLY ALL 15, THEY'RE, THEY'RE VOTING MEMBERS. SO IN THE SENSE OF LOOKING AT THE SIX COUNCIL APPOINTEES, THEY WILL BE MAKING DECISIONS THAT ESTABLISH POLICY AND DRIVE FORWARD, UH, DIRECTLY GOLF OPERATIONS. UH, PRIMARILY, YOU KNOW, ANDREW HIGHLIGHTED THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS DATE. THERE HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT. ALL OF THOSE ITEMS COME BACK TO, UM, THE BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL. EVERYONE VOTES ON THOSE. UM, AND SO THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF WHY THIS IS SO DIFFERENT AND UNIQUE. AND IN OUR CASE, UM, THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY AT LARGE AS WELL. SO IT'S NOT ONE FOR COUNCIL DISTRICT. AND, UM, BECAUSE IT IS SO UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT IN THAT WAY, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THIS FORWARD SO THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN, IF I'M ASKED WHAT ROLE DID THE CITY PLAY OR DID PARKS PLAY, OR MELANIE RIGHT IN FINANCE, AND SHE'S THE OTHER BOARD MEMBER, THAT WE DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THIS BOARD IS REFLECTIVE OF THE GOALS AND PRIORITIES OF CITY COUNCIL AND HOW WE FILL THESE SEATS. AND BECAUSE THEY ARE INFLUENCING POLICY, I THINK THAT'S THE BIG, UM, DIFFERENCE. AND SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WENT ABOUT IT THE RIGHT WAY AND, UM, AND NOT MISS ANY STEPS. THANK YOU, HOMER. SO JUST, JUST TO SUMMARIZE, THEY MAY FINDING DECISIONS THAT DON'T COME THROUGH COUNCIL. THAT IS TRUE. THAT'S WHAT'S DIFFERENT. AND OPERATIONAL. THEY, THEY COULD BE OPERATIONAL DECISIONS IN TERMS OF HOW THE, THE ORGANIZATION FUNCTIONS. OKAY. YEAH. UH, SO, SO COLLEAGUES, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU WERE ALL OKAY WITH THIS BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT APPROACH, BECAUSE THEN WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING IS THAT OUR NEXT MEETING ASKING YOU TO REVIEW AND APPROVE THE FINALIST. AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU, UH, YOU WERE ON BOARD WITH, WITH THIS APPROACH. UM, BEFORE WE, WE DO COME BACK WITH THE, WITH THE CANDIDATES OR THE FINALISTS, HOMER, WHAT I WOULD ASK IS THAT YOU, UH, MAKE SURE TO PROVIDE TO THE COMMITTEE THE LIST OF ALL THE APPLICANTS AND THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS [00:20:01] TO THE APPLICATIONS THEMSELVES. UM, IN ADDITION, I, I AM VERY INTERESTED IN THE DIVERSITY OF THE FINAL BOARD THAT WE SELECT. SO I CAN'T REALLY ADVISE ON THAT OR COMMENT ON THAT IF I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE IS ON IT. I NOTICED YOU DIDN'T PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU HAVE AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW? WE DON'T HAVE A SLIDE PREPARED THE EXISTING COMMITTEE, UH, OF THE 15 MEMBERS, UH, FROM A DEMOGRAPHIC STANDPOINT, WE HAVE 11 MALES, UH, AND FOUR FEMALE, AND SIX, NINE ARE WHITE, SIX ARE HISPANIC. AND, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY INCLUDE THAT INFORMATION WHEN WE COME BACK TO THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND EQUITY COMMITTEE TO HAVE A SLIDE THAT REFLECTS THAT. AND IN ADVANCE WE CAN PROVIDE THAT SUMMARY AS WELL ALONG WITH THE APPLICATIONS THAT, UH, WERE REQUESTED. THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS, OH, I'M SORRY, MADAM CHAIR. THIS IS DAVID. UH, HOMER, IF WE CAN, LET'S SEND THAT OUT TODAY IF YOU HAVE IT, OR EITHER MONDAY. I'D KIND OF HATE TO WAIT TWO WEEKS FOR THEM TO SEE IT THE FIRST TIME. I JUST THINK THE EARLIER, THE SOONER THE BETTER. THAT WAY THEY CAN START REVIEWING THE, THE NAMES AS A PART OF THE PROCESS. JUST FOR THAT ONE PARTICULAR QUESTION, SINCE WE DIDN'T HAVE A SLIDE, I DON'T WANT 'EM TO WAIT FOR THE SLIDE. IF WE CAN HELP WITH THE, YEAH, SO WE'LL WORK WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO GET THOSE APPLICATIONS AND WE CAN TRANSMIT THAT INFORMATION ALONG WITH THAT CURRENT MAKEUP OF THE BOARD TODAY. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. NO, WHAT I WAS SAYING IS THE CURRENT MAKEUP OF THE BOARD HAS ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED. SEND THAT ON OUT. NOT, NOT THE APPLICATIONS, JUST THE 15 MEMBERS. I THINK THEY SHOULD KNOW THAT RIGHT AWAY. YEAH. YEP. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND LASTLY, HOMER, WE CAN ONLY PICK AT THE END OF THE DAY FROM THE PEOPLE THAT WE RECRUIT. SO RECRUITMENT IS A CRITICAL ISSUE IN THIS, UH, YOU DID NOT GO OVER THAT PROCESS. HOW WILL YOU BE PROMOTING THESE OPENINGS? SO I CAN SPEAK TO THAT. UH, MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS ARA PERKINS. SO WHAT WE DO, WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. AND SO WE DID ADVERTISE ON OUR BOARDS OF COMMISSIONS MEETING ON OUR, ON OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS SITE. AND WE ALSO SENT OUT A P P S A, UM, PUBLIC, UH, WHAT IS IT, UH, INFORMATION NOTICE, UH, THAT TO BE RELEASED. AND I KNOW THAT PARKS ALSO ADVERTISED ON THEIR WEB, ON THEIR WEBSITE, AND AT THEIR, UM, SITES FOR INDIVIDUALS TO APPLY TO THIS, FOR THIS, FOR THIS BOARD, AURORA, I AND, AND HOMER. I THINK THAT'S GREAT FOR ENSURING THAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS THAT THIS IS AVAILABLE, BUT IF WE WANT TO RECRUIT WOMEN, SORRY, IF WE WANT TO PICK FROM WOMEN, WE HAVE TO RECRUIT WOMEN. WE HAVE TO GO TO WHERE THEY ARE. UH, SO I, I CHALLENGE BOTH OF YOU TO THINK, UH, MORE CREATIVELY ABOUT HOW CAN WE ENSURE WE HAVE A GOOD POOL OF WOMEN TO CHOOSE FROM. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS. I'LL START WITH COUNCILWOMAN VRAN. UH, THANK YOU CHAIR. CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? YEAH. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, AND YES, I AGREE. I I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE FULL LIST OF THE APPLICANTS THAT SUBMIT APPLICATIONS AND THEN WHAT YOU ALL VET. UM, I, I THINK I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, JUST OVERALL QUESTIONS. I SAW THAT YOUR REVENUE ANTICIPATION IS 12 MILLION FOR, UH, ANYWAY. HI, ANDREW. GOOD TO SEE YOU. HOW ARE GOOD TO SEE YOU TOO. NO PROBLEM. YOUR WORK TOO. I APPRECIATE IT. UM, SO YOU ANTICIPATE 14 MILLION. HOW MUCH OF THAT HOMER DOES THE CITY PUT IN? WE DON'T CONTRIBUTE. THAT'S THEIR OPERATING BUDGET THROUGH THEIR OWN OPERATION. SO, UM, THAT DOES NOT COME FROM A CONTRIBUTION OF THE CITY. OKAY. UM, BUT IT'S A, ALRIGHT. SO I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW, DO YOU ADVERTISE FOR THESE POSITIONS AT THE GOLF COURSES AS WELL? ADVERTISE FOR BOARD APPOINTMENTS? DO YOU PUT UP THE SIGNAGE AT THE GOLF COURSES? WE HAD NEVER DONE THAT THAT PREVIOUSLY, BUT, UM, THIS TIME WE, WE WANTED TO HELP THE OUTREACH AND WE HAD IT, UH, ON OUR WEBSITE. UH, SO IT WAS, UM, YOU COULD FIND IT THERE. I THINK THE BEST THING TO DO IS PUT A PAPER COPY OUT THERE WHEN PEOPLE ARE GETTING INTO THOSE, TO THOSE CARTS, UH, RIDING AROUND AND IN THE SCREENS RIDING AROUND. JUST LET THEM KNOW. [00:25:01] UM, BECAUSE I'M SURE WHEN THEY'RE ON SOME OF THE GOLF CART PATHS THAT AREN'T UP TO PAR , THAT, OR I, SORRY, I USE THAT WORD, BUT ANYWAY, THAT AREN'T UP TO THE CONDITION WE WANT THEM TO, I'M SURE THEY'D LOVE TO GIVE THEIR FEEDBACK AS A BOARD MEMBER. SO I THINK THAT OUTREACH, YOU HAVE A CAPTIVE AUDIENCE THERE. LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THAT, UM, AT ALL OF OUR GOLF COURSES, UH, ESPECIALLY RIVERSIDE AND MISSION DE LAGO. YES, MA'AM. AND THEN I ALSO WANT TO KNOW, UH, I SAW YOU PUT THIS, UH, YOU PUT SOME OF THE REVIEW CRITERIA, HOMER, BUT, SO TALK, TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR VETTING PROCESS. AND I ALSO WANT TO KNOW WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY INDUSTRY KNOWLEDGE? AND SO, UM, THE VETTING PROCESS WILL INCLUDE THE, THE AD HOC COMMITTEE. WE WILL LOOK TO SEE, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE THEY RESIDENTS OF SAN ANTONIO OR ARE THEY NOT, UH, LOOKING AT WHAT IS KIND OF JUST BASELINE CITY REQUIREMENTS. IF SOMEBODY IS NOT, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO FILL OUT, UH, A WAIVER FORM, FOR EXAMPLE, INDUSTRY KNOWLEDGE IN WORKING WITH ANDREW. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE FELT WAS REALLY CRITICAL SO THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS, UH, THAT DRIVE FORWARD GOLF OPERATIONS, THAT THEY HAVE AT LEAST THAT BACKGROUND THAT'S GONNA HELP AT THE END OF THE DAY, DRIVE FORWARD THE MISSION OF GOLF, BEING KEEPING IT, RAISING THE STANDARD OF GOLF PLAY BACK TO EARLY ON THE VISION. THAT WAS REALLY WHAT I THINK ANDREW AND ANDREW AND HIS TEAM HAVE DONE. UH, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THAT GOOD WORK. THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE WERE THINKING ABOUT WITH INDUSTRY KNOWLEDGE THERE. IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT AND CONSIDER, WE CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT. UH, BUT DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION? WELL, I'M JUST, I'M JUST CURIOUS WHEN YOU SAY INDUSTRY KNOWLEDGE, I WOULD NEVER ASSUME, I MEAN, I LIKE TO PLAY GOLF. I KNOW WHAT I LIKE, I KNOW I LIKE NICE GOLF PATH, GOLF CART PATHS, UM, ACCESS TO FACILITIES ON THE GOLF COURSE. UM, BUT DOES THAT, IS THAT CONSIDERED INDUSTRY KNOWLEDGE? BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU'RE KEEPING IT, YOU'RE USING THE TERM INDUSTRY KNOWLEDGE, HOW IS THAT INTERPRETED? AND THEN ARE WE ALREADY KIND OF KEEPING A GROUP OF PEOPLE OUT BECAUSE MAYBE THEY DIDN'T GROW UP LEARNING ABOUT ALL OF THESE CHAMPIONSHIPS OR LEARNING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN THINGS? SO THAT'S WHAT I MEAN, WHAT I MEAN WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INDUSTRY KNOWLEDGE, BECAUSE MAYBE NOT EVERYBODY WHO IS A WEEKEND GOLF PLAYER, JUST WHO LIKES TO GO OUT, BUT WHO REALLY WANTS TO SEE THE FACILITIES GROW AND THRIVE. MAYBE THEY DON'T HAVE THE QUOTE UNQUOTE TITLE OF, OF INDUSTRY KNOWLEDGE. YEAH. NO PLAYERS WOULD THEY HAVE INDUSTRY KNOWLEDGE, AND THAT'S VERY USEFUL INFORMATION, THE THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO SEE ON THE GOLF COURSES. UH, IT CAN ALSO BE SOMEBODY WHO HAS A CONSTRUCTION BACKGROUND. I MEAN, THERE'S SO MUCH CAPITAL INVESTMENT THAT, UH, GOLF SYSTEM HAS MADE THAT IMPROVES PLAYABILITY. SO THAT'D BE ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF SOMEBODY WHO HAS THAT INDUSTRY KNOWLEDGE. BUT ABSOLUTELY, UH, SOMEBODY WHO IS A WEEKEND PLAYER THAT COUNTS AS AS INTERESTING KNOWLEDGE. ANDREW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO PROVIDE ANY OTHER INSIGHTS ON, UM, THAT REFERENCED INDUSTRY KNOWLEDGE. SURE. I, I THINK THAT'S WELL PUT, HOMER, AND IT WAS A GOOD QUESTION BY THE COUNCILWOMAN. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE IMPORTANT TO ME IS, IS SOMEBODY THAT'S GOT SOME AGRONOMIC BACKGROUNDS THAT CAN HELP US RELAY THE MESSAGE BACK TO THEIR GROUP OF GOLFERS THAT THEY PLAY WITH ON WHY TURF CONDITIONS ARE THE WAY THAT THEY ARE, WHY PACE OF PLAY IS THE WAY THAT IT IS, WHY, UM, UH, RATES SOMETIMES ARE THE WAY THAT THEY ARE. UH, BUT CERTAINLY ALSO SOMEBODY THAT HAS A DIVERSE SET OF SKILLS AS IT RELATES TO, UH, CONSTRUCTION OR ENGINEERING, ACCOUNTING, THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE'RE INVOLVED WITH FROM A PURE BUSINESS STANDPOINT THAT CAN HELP US NAVIGATE, UH, THOSE DIFFERENT CHANNELS IS, IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. SO TELL ME, UH, THE OTHERS THAT ARE NOT, UH, THAT ARE NOT APPOINTED BY THE, THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, WHAT IS THE, THE SEVEN AT LARGE OR WHOMEVER, HOW ARE THOSE SELECTED AND WHAT ARE THE VETTING PROCESSES FOR THEM? SO THE, THOSE SEVEN ARE ESTABLISHED AND FILLED ACCORDING TO THE BYLAWS OF, UH, THE ALAMO CITY GOLF TRAIL. ANDREW, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO WHAT THE VETTING PROCESS LOOKS LIKE? THE CRITERIA IS [00:30:01] USED IN THOSE INSTANCES? YEAH. A LOT OF THE, UH, AT LARGE BOARD MEMBERS WERE, WERE PLACED ON THE BOARD, UH, AT FIRST BY THE ORIGINAL GROUP THAT FORMED THE MUNICIPAL GOLF ASSOCIATION BASED ON SKILLS THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD ENHANCE THE ORGANIZATION FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, UH, ON A GO FORWARD, WHEN THOSE POSITIONS ROLL OUT OR EXPIRE OR THOSE, UH, BOARD MEMBERS RESIGN, THE BOARD AS A WHOLE THEN VOTES ON THOSE NEW BOARD MEMBERS, UH, BASED ON A PREVIOUS CRITERIA THAT WAS ESTABLISHED. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'LL HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, BUT I'LL, I'LL STOP SINCE THE FIVE MINUTE MARK IS OUT. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. I THINK WE FORGOT TO START THE TIMER ON OUR END. MY APOLOGIES. UH, COUNCILWOMAN ANDREW SULLIVAN. UM, THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND, AND THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN. THANK YOU HOMER. THANK YOU, ANDREW, FOR THE PRESENTATION. UM, THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE, I KNOW THAT WHEN WE WERE TALKING BEFORE, UH, WHEN WE WERE DOING THE APPOINTMENT PROCESS OF THE, UM, GOLF, UH, APPOINTEES, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING EQUITABLE REPRESENTATION ACROSS THE BOARD. UM, AND I KNOW THAT IT WAS A CONVERSATION TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE, THE BYLAWS AND LOOK AT THE, THE CHARTER TO SEE HOW WE CAN ADD THOSE 10 SLOTS. AND NOT JUST THE SIX, BUT OF COURSE, COVID HAPPENED AND THE CONVERSATION KIND OF STALLED. AND SO I WANTED TO FIND OUT, UM, NOW THAT WE'RE HERE, WHAT IS THE CONVERSATION GOING FORWARD TO HAVE THOSE EQUITABLE REPRESENTATION ACROSS THE BOARD? OR IS, IS IT THAT WE ONLY HAVE THE SIX BECAUSE OF HOW THE GOLF COURSES ARE, ARE SET IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO? THOSE ARE SOME OF MY, MY, MY QUESTIONS. UH, COUNCILMAN, I DO NOT HAVE THE HISTORY OF WHY IT'S 15 AND SIX OR CITY COUNCIL APPOINTEES, TOUR EX OFFICIO. I CAN GO BACK AND DO SOME OF THAT RESEARCH. UH, BUT BACK TO THE GOING FORWARD DISCUSSIONS I'VE HAD WITH ANDREW IS ABSOLUTELY, UM, THERE'D BE OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE THE BYLAWS TO REFLECT ANY OF THE, THE CHANGES THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE AND CONSIDER GOING FORWARD. UM, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW THAT THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED, UM, AND, AND I'LL SEE WHAT I CAN FIND AS, AS IT RELATES TO, AGAIN, Y 15 AND THE STRUCTURE THAT IT IS. UH, AND UNLESS ANDREW HAS SOME INSIGHTS ON THAT, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION TO, TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT RIGHT NOW. OKAY. ANDREW, DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE A, I I, I WISH I COULD GIVE YOU A VERY INTELLIGENT ANSWER, UH, COUNCILWOMAN, BUT THE, UH, THE ORGANIZATION OF THE BYLAWS PREDATES MY TIME WITH THE ORGANIZATION. SO I, I, UM, I, I SIMPLY KNOW WHAT'S IN THE BYLAWS RIGHT NOW, BUT DON'T REALLY KNOW MUCH TO THE CREATION OF THEM. OKAY. UNDERSTANDABLE. UM, AND THEN IS THERE A BASE RATE TO PLAY OR, UM, IS THERE AN INCOME BASED SCALE FOR THOSE THAT WANNA PARTICIPATE, BUT MAYBE ON A FIXED INCOME? THERE IS NOT AN INCOME, UH, BASED SCALE, UH, BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENT MEMBERSHIPS LEVEL THAT ARE EXTREMELY AFFORDABLE AND LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES TO PLAY AT VARIOUS TIMES AT VARIOUS GOLF COURSES FOR, UH, VERY, UM, REASONABLE FEES. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE STROVE TO DO TO REMAIN, UH, FINANCIALLY SOLVENT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE OPERATE, UH, AT A LEVEL THAT'S COMMENSURATE WITH THE GOLF EXPERIENCE. THE MUNICIPAL GOLF ASSOCIATION GOLF COURSES ARE STILL THE MOST AFFORDABLE GOLF COURSES IN THE CITY. UH, BUT ALSO WE OPERATE 'EM PROFESSIONALLY AND, AND BUSINESS-MINDED SO THAT WE CAN CONSTANTLY REINVEST, UH, NOT ONLY INTO THE GOLF COURSES, BUT ALSO INTO OUR STAFF. AND THAT'S ONE THING THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY BEEN, UH, HEAVY ON ME IS, IS, IS BEING ABLE TO PAY OUR PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT MORE. OKAY. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE SCHOOLS AND THE SCHOOL CONNECTIONS, ARE WE DOING TRAINING? ARE THEY USING THEM FOR SCHOOL EVENTS OR, OR HOW IS THAT CONNECTION ACTUALLY MADE? I THINK THE ANSWER WOULD BE YES AND YES. UH, WE DO A LOT OF TRAINING, A LOT OF, UM, TEACHING. UH, WE'VE GOT SOME PARTNERS THAT WE WORK WITH THAT ARE PROFESSIONALS IN THAT SPACE, AND WE ALSO HOST, UM, MANY OF THEIR PRACTICES AND A LOT OF THEIR, THEIR TOURNAMENTS AND, AND COMPETITIONS. AWESOME. AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION THAT I HAVE, HOW MANY ACTUAL CITY TOURNAMENTS DO WE HOLD ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AT OUR GOLF COURSES? WHEN YOU SPEAK TO A CITY TOURNAMENT, WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED LIKE A, LIKE A PUBLIC ACCESS TOURNAMENT OR, UM, SO I KNOW WE USED TO HAVE ONE WITH THE M L K COMMISSION. IT USED TO BE AN ANNUAL, UH, GOLF TOURNAMENT THAT WE HAD HERE, UM, ON, UH, THE GOLF COURSE RIGHT HERE [00:35:01] BY, UM, THE AT AND T CENTER, I CAN'T EVEN THINK OF THE NAME RIGHT NOW. WILLOW SPRINGS, THAT'S THE ONE IN YOUR DISTRICT? YES. AND SO I WANTED TO KNOW, UM, AS WE'RE GOING FORWARD, ARE WE DOING THAT CONTINUOUSLY? HAS THAT CHANGED? WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE IF WE WANT TO ADD, UM, MORE OF THOSE TOURNAMENTS ON A CITY BASIS THAT WE CAN HELP TO GENERATE ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR THOSE GOLF TRAILS? THAT'S AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR BUSINESS, UH, AND, UH, A PART OF OUR BUSINESS MODEL THAT WILL CONTINUE TO THRIVE GOING FORWARD. WE HAVE WELL OVER A HUNDRED DIFFERENT CHARITY, UH, CORPORATE LIKE EVENTS THAT WE DO ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. WE'VE GOT PROBABLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 50 OR 60 DIFFERENT GROUPS AND ASSOCIATIONS THAT REPRESENT THE ENTIRE POPULACE OF THE CITY THAT PLAY ON A WEEKLY BASIS. UH, WE'VE GOT AN EXTREMELY DIVERSE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT PLAY GOLF, UH, ON A REAL REGULAR BASIS THAT ARE IN, IN COORDINATED GROUPS. OKAY. AWESOME. WELL, I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN START TO DO MORE AS WE LOOK AT HOW TO USE OUR OUTDOOR SPACES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. UM, COUNCILMAN TRIVIO, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE CIRCLE BACK? YES. UH, JUST REAL QUICK, AND I'M, I'M SORRY, I'M, I'M, I'M LATE. BUT, UM, I JUST WANT SOME CLARIFICATION. I THINK IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, UH, THAT THE CITY WANTS TO REVIEW THE APPLICATION APPLICATIONS AND BRING FINALISTS TO THIS COMMITTEE, UM, INSTEAD OF THE COMMITTEE SELECTING, UH, FROM A LIST OF CANDIDATES, CAN, CAN YOU, UH, IS, IS THAT THE CASE AND CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT? YES. GOOD. A GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILMAN. UH, SO WE ARE SEEKING GUIDANCE FROM COMMUNALS AND EQUITY COMMITTEE AS IT RELATES TO FILLING THE SIX CITY COUNCIL APPOINTED, UH, BOARD MEMBERS. THERE ARE NOT ANY VACANCIES. EVERYONE WILL REMAIN IN A HOLDOVER STATUS UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT THOSE COME FORWARD FOR COUNCIL APPROVAL. UM, NOW NEED ABOUT THIS, AND MADAM CHAIR ASKED EARLIER TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THERE WAS A, AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHY WE'RE DOING THIS. THESE MEMBERS, THEY'RE ALL VOTING MEMBERS, THEY'RE NOT, UH, THEY'RE SETTING GOLF OPERATION POLICY, IF YOU WILL. THEY'RE NOT JUST AN ADVISORY BOARD. SO, UM, ONE OF THE SLIDES, UH, ANDREW HIGHLIGHTED WAS SOME OF THE INVESTMENT BY ALMO CITY GOLF TRAIL IN THE GOLF COURSES. AND ALL OF THOSE ITEMS ARE THINGS THAT COME FORWARD TO THE BOARD FOR A BOAT. AND SO IN TERMS OF INVESTING IN THE GOLF COURSES AND JUST, UM, DRIVING FORWARD THE MISSION, EVERY MEMBER ON THAT BOARD, UH, HAS A VOTE, AND THEY ARE DRIVING FORWARD THAT POLICY, UM, AS IT RELATES TO GOLF. SO WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING IS THAT, UH, WE WOULD COME BACK TO, UH, COMMUNITY HEALTH AND EQUITY OF THE FUTURE MEETING TO REPORT OUT HERE ARE THE APPLICANTS, HERE ARE THE THINGS THAT, UH, WERE LOOKED AT TO FILTER THROUGH, UH, AND THEN PRESENT THAT TO THE COMMITTEE FOR PURPOSE OF MAKING THAT FINAL SELECTION. UM, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN, UH, THIS WENT, I GUESS, FOR THE CURRENT MEMBERS THAT ARE APPOINTED, EACH, UM, ONE THAT WAS, I GUESS IN THE FINAL RUNNING, IF YOU WILL, UM, CAME BACK TO COMMUNITY HEALTH INEQUITY AND WAS GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, I THINK THEY WERE EACH GIVEN A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO JUST ANSWER QUESTIONS OR MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT WHAT THEIR INTEREST IS. AND SO, UM, I IMAGINE THAT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMITTEE WANTS AN OPPORTUNITY, AGAIN, WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT AS WELL. SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR THAT. WELL, OKAY. WELL, LET ME, UH, YOU KNOW, AND I, IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT'S A GOOD POINT. YOU'RE MAKING HOMER, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD, I WOULD COUNTER WITH, UM, HOW, YOU KNOW, OUR BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD IS SET UP IN A SIMILAR WAY. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WERE VERY, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD IS THAT IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS COUNCIL, UH, PROVIDED, UH, SOME LEVEL OF PRESCRIPTION, AS YOU SAID, AND QUALIFICATION, UH, THEY ARE, UH, THEY MAKE A DECISION THAT DOESN'T GO BACK TO COUNCIL EITHER. UM, AND I, I CONSIDER THEIR DECISIONS MORE, UH, SERIOUS THAN ANYTHING WE DO ON ANY BOARD OF COMMISSION BECAUSE THEY, THEY ORDER A DEMOLITION OF A HOME. AND, UM, YOU, THE, MY CONCERN IS THAT, UH, THAT, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE AS COUNCIL [00:40:01] MEMBERS, UH, I THINK HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO, UH, REPRESENT WHAT WE THINK THE COMMUNITY IS ASKING FOR WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION OF, OF INVESTMENTS AND, AND, AND THAT FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY WE HAVE, WHICH IS FINAL WITH CITY COUNCIL. NOBODY ELSE. UH, AND, AND SO, UM, I, I JUST, I, I WOULD, I WOULD CAUTION THE COMMITTEE FROM, YOU KNOW, HAVING ANYBODY FILTER WHO WE SEE APPLYING FOR, FOR THIS ROLE OR NOMINATING, I, I, I'M OKAY HOMER WITH, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING SOME INSIGHT AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE COMMITTEE COULD LOOK AT. BUT I, I JUST DON'T, I, I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH, WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THIS BEING FILTERED WHERE, UM, WHERE, WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S REALLY IN A SIMILAR WAY, I THINK, UH, UH, ABOUT HOW WE PROVIDE THAT EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION OF, IN THIS CASE, RESOURCES AND PLANNING. AND IN THE CASE OF THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD, THE SORT OF THE JUDICIOUS, UH, CARE THAT WE EXPECT, UH, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS TO TAKE WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, THE, THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY. SO, UH, THOSE ARE MY RECOMMENDATIONS. CHAIR, I, I, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I, I DO THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS GLAD TO HEAR RECOMMENDATIONS FROM, FROM, FROM OUR, OUR CITY STAFF. I JUST, I JUST DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE A FILTER. THANK YOU. UM, THANK YOU. UH, COUNCILMAN COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ, UH, HAS HER HAND UP AS WELL. GO AHEAD, COUNCILWOMAN. UH, THANK YOU. UM, AND, UH, I WAS, YOU KNOW, I WAS TRANSITIONING FROM THE CAR, UM, TO THE HOUSE, SO IF I'VE MISSED IT, YOU, YOU CAN JUST MAKE IT A BRIEF COMMENT. BUT, UM, WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE, UM, THE GULF, UM, PROPERTY IN DISTRICT 10, UM, THAT COM, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER GALLAGHER WAS URGING US TO BUY, DID THAT EVER WORK OUT, OR IS THAT IN YOUR PORTFOLIO? YES, MA'AM, IT IS. THAT WAS NORTHERN HILLS, UH, AND, UH, THAT WAS, I GUESS IT GOES BACK ABOUT FOUR YEARS, I'M THINKING, BUT THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES. THAT IS IN SIX, MY GOSH. UM, THAT IS IN THE PORTFOLIO THAT ANDREW MANAGES. OKAY. AND, UM, I GUESS, UH, I KNOW THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME IN A VERY LONG TIME THAT WE HAD ACQUIRED SUCH A FACILITY. UM, HOW'S IT GOING, COUNCILWOMAN? I'M GLAD YOU ASKED. UM, WE PICKED THAT ONE UP IN, IN AUGUST OF 2015, AND WE'RE PRETTY FAR UPSIDE DOWN THE FIRST THREE OR FOUR YEARS THAT WE OPERATED THAT ONE. UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ON THE GOLF COURSE, AND WE'VE, WE'VE WORKED HARD AND, AND NOW WE'RE AT A POSITION TO WHERE IT'S, UM, IT'S SUSTAINABLE. UH, GOOD. WELL, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS, UM, SOMETHING THAT HE, HE REALLY, UM, WAS SUPPORTIVE OF. AND I KNOW THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU MENTIONED IT IN YOUR COMMENTS THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF DESIRE FOR OUTDOOR ACTIVITY THAT WE COULD DO DURING COVID AND GOLF WAS ONE OF 'EM. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD SOME, SOME RECOMMENDED, UH, ACTIVITIES AND, YOU KNOW, CYCLING, TENNIS, GOLF, RIGHT? WE, THEY DIDN'T WANT YOU TO PLAY BASKETBALL, NOT A LOT OF INDOOR ACTIVITIES. UH, BUT, UM, I SUSPECT IT WAS A, AS YOU MENTIONED, A GREAT, UM, UH, OUTLET FOR PEOPLE, UH, DURING A CHALLENGING TIME. SO I'M GLAD THAT THAT, UH, COURSE WORKED OUT AFTER ALL. SO, UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. WE'LL GO BACK TO COUNCILWOMAN VIRA, A COUPLE OF THINGS. UM, FIRST, WHAT DO, DO MEMBERS HAVE TERM LIMITS ON THE M G A BOARD? ANDREW, THAT'D BE ON YOUR, UM, SIDE FOR THE APPOINTEE OF THE APPOINTEES ACCORDING TO THE BYLAWS. ARE THERE TERM LIMITS THERE? YEAH, EVERY TWO, EVERY TWO YEARS. NO, BUT HOW LONG CAN THEY SERVE? IF IT'S EVERY TWO YEARS, THERE'S CURRENTLY NOT A TERM LIMIT. OKAY. SO HOW MANY, SO I GUESS PART OF MY QUESTION IS, IF YOU CAN GET BACK TO ME IS, UM, HOW LONG IS THE, THE LONGEST SERVING M V A BOARD MEMBER? AND, [00:45:01] UM, HOW MANY YEARS? AND THEN HOMER, WHAT ABOUT COUNSEL APPOINTED AT LARGE? DO WE HAVE TERM LIMITS ON THEM? I DO NOT BELIEVE WE DO. I'M GONNA ASK AURORA TO FACT CHECK ME. I I WILL GET THAT ANSWER FOR, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS MADAM UH, COUNCILWOMAN, BUT I BELIEVE I WILL, I WILL CONFIRM THAT, AND I'LL TRY TO GET THAT WHILE WE'RE STILL IN THE MEETING. YEAH. COUNCILWOMAN, I, I, I CAN SPEAK TO A COUPLE OF YOUR QUESTIONS THERE. UM, NO, THERE'S NOT TERM LIMITS ON, ON ANY BOARD MEMBER, REGARDLESS WHETHER THEY'RE A CITY COUNCIL APPOINTEE OR AN AT LARGE POSITION. UH, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 OF THE SEVEN CURRENT AT LARGE BOARD MEMBERS ARE ORIGINAL FROM WHEN THE ASSOCIATION WAS STARTED IN 2007. OKAY. UM, SO FIVE OF THE SEVEN ARE PART OF THE ORIGINAL. OKAY. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THEN, UM, I THINK, UH, TO ADD SOME SORT OF, UH, CONTINUITY, I THINK CHAIR, IF WE COULD MAYBE HAVE A, UM, A, IN THIS AD HOC REVIEW COMMITTEE, IF ONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS CAN SERVE AS JUST ANOTHER, UM, OB OBSERVER AND BE A PART OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, UH, TO REVIEW. BUT THEN MY FINAL QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE TIMELINE ON THIS HOMER? 'CAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A APPOINTEES WHO ARE ON HOLDOVER STATUS, AND I'M ASSUMING IF THEY'RE ON HOLD OVER STATUS, THEY'RE GONNA WANT TO GO FOR REAPPOINTMENT. SO, UM, WHAT IS THE TIMELINE? SO THE TIMELINE RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE WERE PROPOSING TO COME BACK, UH, AT A FUTURE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND EQUITY COMMITTEE. I THINK HOWEVER WE CAN MODIFY THAT, ALL OF THEM, UM, ARE, AGAIN, THEY'RE NOT VACANT AND BECAUSE THEY'RE FILLED, THEY JUST REMAIN IN HOLDOVER STATUS. AND SO WE CAN SET THAT. WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, GET IT RIGHT. UM, AND SO THAT IS FLEXIBLE THE TIMELINE. COUNCILWOMAN GRO, THIS IS DAVID. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO, LIKE YOU'VE DONE BEFORE, IS THIS COMMITTEE COULD ACTUALLY MAKE AN ASSESSMENT LIKE YOU DID WITH THE CAP PLAN. UH, THERE'S ALREADY THE CRITERIA FOR THE APPLICANTS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR OR THE STANDARDS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. YOU COULD DO SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT AND THEN ALLOW THIS BODY TO MAYBE GO, UH, OFF AND AS, UH, ACTUALLY ASSESS AND HAVE SOMEONE APPOINTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. REMEMBER THE LAST TIME IT WAS THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AS WELL AS THE DEPARTMENT, WHICH WOULD BE THE DEPARTMENT WITH, UH, HOMER HERE AS WELL. SO IT'S JUST AN OPTION THAT'S OUT THERE FOR YOU. WELL, I, I JUST, I THINK MOVING WITH EXPEDIENCY IS KEY HERE BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT, WELL, I WOULD HOPE THAT THE BOARD WOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT MAYBE SOME OF THE, UH, GOLF COURSES. I'LL TELL YOU WHICH ONES, UM, TO BE ON THE BOND POTENTIALLY IN THE FUTURE. AND THE BOND PROCESS IS ALREADY MOVING QUICKLY, BUT IF THERE ARE NEW POSITIONS THAT THEY GET UP TO SPEED WITH WHAT'S GOING ON. SO, UM, IF THERE'S A WAY, I'M GLAD IT WOULD, IT WOULD MOVE, UH, FURTHER COME BACK TO CHECK FOR A, A REVIEW. BUT I THINK IF WE WANNA CONTINUE TO MOVE IT QUICKLY, CHAIR THAT WE ALSO HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THIS COMMITTEE, UH, TO REVIEW, TO BE PART OF, OF THE REVIEW. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. UM, ALRIGHT. SO LET ME SUMMARIZE A LITTLE BIT OF, OF WHAT I'VE HEARD. THERE SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE BIT, NOT A LITTLE BIT, THE, SOME OF THE, THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT COMFORTABLE LETTING STAFF DO ALL OF THE, HAVING STAFF DO ALL OF THE PRE-SELECTION PROCESS AND WANT TO PLAY A ROLE IN THAT, IF NOT HAVE THE WHOLE ROLE . UH, IS THAT, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING AT LEAST FROM COUNCILMAN TREVINO AND COUNCILWOMAN VERAN. UH, MR. MCCAREY HAS, AND COUNCILMAN VERAN HAVE SUGGESTED HAVING ONE OF OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS, ONE OF US FIVE, UH, FORM PART OF YOUR AD HOC COMMITTEE. UM, I AM OPEN TO THAT IDEA. I WOULD JUST NEED TO GET CONSENSUS FROM, FROM THIS COMMITTEE. AND PROB ALSO SOME FEEDBACK FROM HOMER ABOUT HOW THAT WOULD WORK OUT. WHAT HOMER, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? YES, SPEAK TO THE, THE, A MEMBER FROM THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND EQUITY COMMITTEE BEING ON THAT, SO WE CAN RECONVENE MONDAY MORNING TO ASSESS THAT. BUT AGAIN, THE, THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. SO WE CAN WORK AS EFFICIENTLY [00:50:01] OR QUICKLY AS WE NEED TO, UH, TO ACCOMMODATE THAT REVIEW, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE. SO BACK TO THE OPTIONS. IF, IF IT IS THE WHOLE ROLE OR A SOME VARIATION, WE, WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT BECAUSE NOTHING HAS BEEN SUBSIDED YET. AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, UM, ANSWERS THE QUESTION, BUT I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE OR HOW CAN SOMEBODY PLAY A ROLE? DID I CATCH THAT? SO, SO THE SUGGESTION THAT WE'RE EXPLORING RIGHT NOW IS THAT LIST THAT YOU HAVE FOR WHO'S ON YOUR AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT YOU ADD ONE MORE PERSON TO THAT AND THAT IS ONE OF THESE MEMBERS IN, IN HERE. SO, BUT YOU SAID WE NEED TO RECONVENE TO EVALUATE THAT? NO, NO. I, I MAY I THINK WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT UN UNLESS THERE'S SOME LAW OR ORDINANCE THAT PROHIBITS US FROM DOING THAT, I THINK THEY'RE WITHIN THEIR RIGHT TO DO THAT. HOMER. THAT'S ALL SHE'S ASKING. YEAH, NO, WE ABSOLUTELY, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO SEEK GUIDANCE. SO WE CAN DO THAT WITHOUT A DOUBT FOR ME. I JUST NEED TO, WE'LL COORDINATE THAT. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. AND YOU'RE LOOKING TO DO THAT, UH, I GUESS IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, RIGHT? BECAUSE THIS WILL COME BACK TO, TO CHECK. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT A CALENDAR . YEAH, THE HOMER. SO, YEAH, SO I, I WAS LOOKING AT MY SLIDE OVER HERE 'CAUSE I KNOW, UM, THE, WE WERE PROPOSING THAT WE WOULD COME BACK TO CHECK MAY, UH, 27TH AND THEN, UH, AN A SESSION IN JUNE. AND SO IT, IT IS JUST A MATTER OF WORKING WITHIN THE CALENDAR. UH, BUT THAT'S, THOSE ARE THE TWO DAYS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED AT THIS TIME. OKAY. MADAM CHAIR, YOU COULD CONSIDER, I'M, I'M SORRY, YOU COULD CONSIDER JUNE THE 11TH, UM, COMING BACK ALSO IF YOU WANTED TO, AND HE COULD STILL MAKE THE JUNE DEADLINE FOR, UH, AN A SESSION. OKAY. UH, WELL, I THINK THAT'S HOW WE WILL MOVE FORWARD. UH, IF THERE IS A VOLUNTEER AMONG THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO IS PREPARED TO, UH, BE THE, THE PERSON ON THIS COMMITTEE, ON THE AD HOC COMMITTEE. I, I SAW A RAISED HAND THAT WAS COUNCILWOMAN. ANDREW SULLIVAN HAS VOLUNTEERED TO SERVE ON THAT ROLE. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILWOMAN. UH, I'LL LEAVE YOU TO WORK WITH HOMER AND MR. MCCAREY FOR SCHEDULING PURPOSES. THANK YOU FOR, FOR STEPPING UP ON THAT. UM, OKAY. UH, ANY FINAL COMMENTS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS ON THIS TOPIC? UH, COUNCILWOMAN , COUNCILMAN TREVINO, DOES THAT ADDRESS THE CONCERNS? I, I GOT ONE THUMBS UP. COUNCIL TREVINO, UM, WELL, I MEAN, I, I I THINK IT DOES. I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, UM, AGAIN, THE, THE WHOLE POINT IS, IS THAT, UH, THAT, THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REVIEWING APPLICATIONS AND FILTERING APPLICATIONS. SO I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR ABOUT THE DEFINITION OF THOSE TWO. SO AS LONG AS, UH, REVIEWS ARE ABSOLUTELY FINE WITH ME, BUT I, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT, UM, THAT, THAT, THAT APPLICANTS SHOULD BE FILTERED IN TERMS OF WHAT THE, WHAT COUNCIL MEMBERS SEE IS, IS, IS WHAT I'M AFTER. OKAY. ALRIGHT. AND, UM, THANK YOU COUNCILMAN. OH, COUNCILMAN GERRAN. GO AHEAD. RIGHT. AND, BUT WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE THE ABILITY TO, WHEN WE SEE ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS MOVE PEOPLE FORWARD AS WELL AT THE FINAL REVIEW TO, TO INTERVIEW PEOPLE IF WE SEE SOME PEOPLE AS WELL. CORRECT. CHAIR, I'M LOOKING AT YOU ON THAT, ON THE COMPUTER SCREEN , UM, WE DID NOT DISCUSS THAT. UM, BUT I WILL, UH, LET'S DISCUSS THAT NOW. SO, YEAH. OH, GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY, MADAM CHAIR. THAT IS PART OF THE PROCESS THAT THE APPLICANTS, ONCE THEY'RE FILTERED, WOULD ACTUALLY COME BEFORE THIS BODY, THIS COMMITTEE AND EACH ONE BE GIVEN A COUPLE OF MINUTES. DO I HAVE THAT RIGHT HOME OR, YEAH. AND, AND SO SHARE, YES, BUT MAY, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS CONNECTS THE, THE, THE TWO, SO, UM, COUNCILMAN ANDREW SULLIVAN WOULD BE PART OF THAT COMMITTEE TO REVIEW THE ENTIRE POOL OF APPLICANTS, NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT IS ONLY SOME OF THE UNIVERSE, IF YOU WILL. IT'LL BE EVERYTHING. SO THEN BASED ON THAT REVIEW, WE WOULD COME BACK TO CHECK AND THEN IF IT IS TO HAVE EVERYONE COME AND BE INTERVIEWED OR TO WITH THE PARTICIPATION, HAVE WHATEVER THE UNIVERSITY GO AHEAD. I'M GOING TO, SO I, I'M GOING TO, TO TO INTERRUPT FOR JUST A SECOND. SO YOU HAVE DESCRIBED [00:55:01] ONE PROCESS, HOMER, WHAT THE, WHAT THE COUNCILWOMAN IS ASKING FOR IS AN ADDITIONAL PART OF THAT PROCESS THAT WHEN YOU BRING THE FINALISTS TO US THAT HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY YOU, THAT SHE, COUNCILMAN TREVINO, MYSELF AND SHIRLEY HAVE THE DISCRETION TO ADD SOMEBODY ELSE TO THAT LIST THAT MAYBE WE'VE SEEN, UM, FROM, FROM THE APPLICANT POOL THAT WE BELIEVE SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD. UH, THAT IS A STANDARD PRACTICE IN SOME OF OUR OTHER APPOINTMENT PROCESSES THAT WE GET, UM, MAYBE ONE PERSON THAT, THAT WE CAN BRING FORWARD. UM, SO THAT, THAT IS WHAT, WHAT SHE IS ASKING ME. AND IF I HAVE THE CONSENSUS OF THE COMMITTEE TO DO THAT, I, I AM FINE WITH, WITH THAT. SO I'LL, I'LL LOOK FOR SOME LEVEL OF CONSENSUS FROM, FROM, UH, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCIL INTR, UM, OKAY. I GOT TWO. YES. I, I'LL, I'LL GO ALONG WITH, I, I I, I THINK THAT, UH, IT, IT IS, IT IS JUST FOR THE RECORD, UM, IT'S JUST MY OPINION THAT THAT, UH, A, A, A MORE EFFICIENT PROCESS IS TO SIMPLY ALLOW STAFF TO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT ALLOW EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER TO SEE THE ENTIRE POOL. UM, IT'S, IT'S ONLY FAIR TO EVERYBODY. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I I I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHICH ONE OF US GOT TO BE A PART OF THAT PROCESS, SOMEBODY MIGHT FEEL LEFT OUT. AND SO, I, I JUST, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I I THINK IT, IT MAY BE A BETTER APPROACH IS TO ALLOW STAFF TO PROVIDE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT NOT A FILTER. AND THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. UM, I MEAN THE, THE, THE PRO AND, AND, AND I THINK WE ARRIVED TO WHAT, WHAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED IN A VERY SIMILAR WAY. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THAT, THAT, UH, WE DON'T PUT OURSELVES IN A POSITION WHERE, UH, YOU, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS FEEL THAT THERE'S MORE THAN ONE, UH, THAT THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT IN, IN, IN THAT POSITION. UH, BUT AGAIN, THE, THE, I THINK THE ROLE OF, OF, OF STAFF IS TO PROVIDE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, NOT TO FILTER THEM. CORRECT. THAT'S, THAT'S, UM, I APOLOGIZE IF WE DIDN'T EXPLAIN THAT APPROPRIATELY WHEN, WHEN YOU FIRST CAME ON COUNCILMAN, BUT THAT WAS THE DISCUSSION IS THAT THEY WOULD PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO US, UH, BUT WE WOULD STILL HAVE ACCESS TO ALL OF THE APPLICANTS GOT OKAY. THAT, THAT'S WHAT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, JUST, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I, IF I, IF THERE'S AN APPLICANT THAT LET'S SAY IS IN DISTRICT ONE AND, AND THEY FELT THAT, THAT SOMEHOW I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HEAR THEM, I JUST WOULDN'T FEEL RIGHT BEING OKAY WITH, WITH THAT SOMEHOW FROM, WITH ME AGREEING TO NOT LET THEM BE HEARD. SO I, I JUST, I THINK THAT THAT'S CRITICAL. SO YOU COULD LET THEM BE HEARD, EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT RECOMMENDED BY STAFF, YOU COULD ADD THEM AT THE END AND THEY WOULD COME IN FOR AN INTERVIEW. SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN, THEN COUNCILWOMAN ANDREW SULLIVAN, I, I'M NOT SURE YOU ABSOLUTELY NEED TO BE ON THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE. UH, I'M FINE IF, IF YOU ARE, IF WE HAVE REPRESENTATION THERE. THAT'S WHAT WE DID THROUGH THE CAP. AND I THINK IT WORKED REALLY WELL. WE HAD, UH, TWO COMMITTEE MEMBERS. WE HAD SOMEONE FROM EQUITY AND THEN WE HAD THE EXPERT STAFF. AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS A WONDERFUL COMBINATION TO ACHIEVE WHAT, UM, A, A GOOD, UH, DIVERSE MIX THAT REALLY FILLED THE, THE NEEDS OF THAT COMMITTEE. SO I AM ALSO A K COUNCILWOMAN IF YOU WANNA PARTICIPATE IN THAT. SO, ALRIGHT, I THINK LET'S WRAP THIS ONE UP 'CAUSE WE'VE GOT ANOTHER BIG TOPIC TO DISCUSS, BUT THANK YOU EVERYBODY, UH, FOR, FOR YOUR INPUT. UM, I JUST DIDN'T WANNA SHOW UP WITH A BUNCH OF RECOMMENDATIONS IN A FEW WEEKS AND THEN HAVE YOU GUYS NOT KNOW, YOU KNOW, HOW WE GOT THERE. SO THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR, FOR DISCUSSING THIS WITH US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UM, MR. MCCAREY, I THINK WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT TOPIC. AND I HAVE ACTUALLY A FEW WORDS THAT I'M GOING TO SAY. YES. UH, MADAM CHAIR, BEFORE YOU DO, CAN I DO, UH, JUST A SPECIAL THANKS TO YOUR TEAM, NATALIA ORNA, WHO IS ON THE CALL THAT'S WORKED DILIGENTLY ON OUR PROCESS FOR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL BE COMING FROM THIS BODY, UH, MOVING FORWARD. I JUST WANTED TO THANK HER JIR, UH, MATEO AS WELL AS ANDREW FOR ALL OF THEIR HARD WORK TO GET US TO THIS POINT. AND, UH, JUST WANTED TO THANK THEM ALL. THANKS. THANK YOU. THEY ALL DID TREMENDOUS WORK. SO AS MR. MCCAREY HAS, HAS MENTIONED, WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS A DISCUSSION ON OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE BASED [01:00:01] ON THE THREE PANEL DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAD ON MENTAL HEALTH, RACIAL EQUITY, AND GENDER EQUITY. THE COMMITTEE WAS, UM, ACTUALLY, HOLD ON. I HAVE A SCRIPT TO READ ABOUT THIS [Additional Item] BEFORE WE DISCUSS THIS ITEM IN OPEN SESSION. WE WILL RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOLLOWING THE REVIEW, AND IN EXECUTIVE SESSION WE WILL RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION AGAIN TO DELIBERATE AND MAKE AND MOTIONS MAY BE MADE ON COMMITTEE MEMBER RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THESE PANEL DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN MARCH AND APRIL ON MENTAL HEALTH, RACIAL EQUITY AND GENDER EQUITY, THE TIME IS NOW 3:05 PM ON THIS 14TH DAY OF MAY, 2021. THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO CITY COUNCIL COMMUNITY HEALTH AND EQUITY COMMITTEE IS NOW RECESSING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DELIBERATE THE COMMITTEE MEMBER RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON PANEL DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN MARCH AND APRIL ON MENTAL HEALTH, RACIAL EQUITY, AND GENDER EQUITY, AND DISCUSS RELATED LEGAL ISSUES PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0 7 1 AND, AND CHAIRWOMAN, UH, UH, IF I MAY, CAN I GIVE THE, UH, THE LAYMAN'S VERSION OF THAT, IF YOU DON'T MIND? . THE, THE REASON WE'RE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION IS THAT, UH, AS WE LOOK AT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, BECAUSE THEY DO DEAL WITH CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUES AND AS THEY DEAL WITH THE POLICE, OBVIOUSLY WE, WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF WHAT WE CAN DO UNDER BOTH COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AND STATE LAW. UM, SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS THAT, UM, IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSIONS IS THE VARIOUS LEGAL ISSUES THAT, UM, ARE NECESSARILY TIED TO SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS. THANK YOU, ANDY. ALRIGHT, [2. 21-3631 Committee member recommendations based on panel discussions between March and April on mental health, racial equity, and gender equity. [David W. McCary, Assistant City Manager]] TEAM, WE HAVE A QUORUM IN OPEN SESSION. THE TIME IS NOW 4:08 PM ON THIS 14TH DAY OF MAY, 2021. AND THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO CITY COUNCIL COMMUNITY HEALTH AND EQUITY COMMITTEE WILL NOW RECONVENE AN OPEN SESSION. NO OFFICIAL WAS ACTION, NO OFFICIAL ACTION WAS TAKEN DURING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE WILL NOW REVIEW THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND AFTER THAT I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BY THIS COMMITTEE BASED ON PANEL DISCUSSIONS AND COMMITTEE COM AND COMMITTEE DISCUSSION. AT THIS POINT, I'M GOING ASK STAFF TO SHARE, UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS ON SCREEN. WE HAVE THREE SETS OF RECOMMENDATIONS. OUR FIRST SET THAT WE WILL REVIEW IS REGARDING MENTAL HEALTH. I WILL PUT THESE ON THE SCREEN FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND, UH, AUDIENCE TO REVIEW. AND AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR FEEDBACK ON THESE RECOMMENDATIONS OR ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COMMITTEE MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDED. I WILL START WITH COUNCILWOMAN ANDREW SULLIVAN. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. SO UNDER THE, UM, UNDER THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE FOR MENTAL HEALTH, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT WE FORM A COALITION USING OUR COMMISSION ON VETERAN AFFAIRS, OUR CITY AND COUNTY, UH, VA, AND THE VETERANS HELPING VETERANS ALONG WITH THE PINK BERETS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN. COUNCILWOMAN. UM, FOR THIS ONE MA'AM, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO CONFIRM IS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN, WHEN YOU SAID, UH, THE GROUPS, IT'S OUR, UM, CITY'S VETERANS COMMISSION, CORRECT? YES. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I THINK ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I WAS LOOKING AT, UM, FOR THIS ONE, WHEN IT COMES TO MENTAL HEALTH, UM, CHAIR, ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO DO IS IN INVESTIGATE OR LOOK AT IF THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, HIRING, UH, FOR POLICE OFFICERS OR FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO SPECIFICALLY WANT TO WORK WITH THIS, MAYBE IT'S A SOCIAL WORKER WHO NOW WANTS TO BE A PART OF THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT, BUT DOESN'T NECESSARILY WANT TO USE A, A GUN OR, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE COULD LOOK AT A SPECIALTY, SS A P D HIRING OR JUST INVESTIGATE OR RESEARCH, IF THAT'S A HYBRID HIRING MODEL IS EVEN, UM, WORKABLE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN THE FUTURE. UM, JUST LOOKING AT A CREATIVITY, CREATIVITY IN A HIRING PROCESS OR RECRUITMENT PROCESS FOR THIS. IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH UNIT AND AS WE'RE DOING THE RESEARCH, LOOK AT THE PROS AND THE CONS TO IT, BUT [01:05:01] IF WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO HIRE MORE S A P OFFICERS OR HIRE MORE ONTO OUR TEAM, MAYBE THEY DON'T NECESSARILY GO THE SAME ROUTE AS A PATROL OR SOMETHING IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN A SPECIALTY OF JUSTICE. SO CHAIR, IF THAT COULD BE ONE OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND HAVE THEM RESEARCH OR EVEN THINK THROUGH IT AND TALK TO THE CHIEF, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT. I CAN'T HEAR YOU. C CHAIR. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. UH, WE, UH, STAFF WILL DRAFT THAT LANGUAGE. UM, ALRIGHT. UH, IS, DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS, COUNCILWOMAN ON MENTAL HEALTH? OKAY. I HAVE A COUPLE OF RECOMMENDATIONS I WOULD LIKE TO ADD. I'LL READ THEM ALOUD. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE BULLET NUMBER TWO THAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE SCREEN AND, UH, REPLACE THAT WITH, IN COLLABORATION WITH COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT, COUNTY MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY, AND OTHER RELEVANT MENTAL HEALTH PARTNERS, I RECOMMEND WE EXPLORE A NON-RESPONDER MODEL THAT, THAT DIRECTLY LINKS FOLLOW-UP POST-CRISIS CARE TO INDIVIDUALS IN CRISIS. AND THAT THIS MODEL BUILDS OR EXPAND THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT MODEL, THAT WE ESTIMATE THE NEEDED SCALE FOR EFFECTIVENESS OF SUCH A MODEL, AND THAT WE DEVELOP A LONG RANGE PLAN TO IMPLEMENT THIS MODEL. THANK YOU. UH, MY NEXT SUGGESTION IS PROVIDING OFFICERS, SORRY, EXPLORING THE POTENTIAL OF PROVIDING OUR OFFICERS WITH LESS LETHAL ALTERNATIVES TO TASERS AND GUNS WHEN RESPONDING TO CRISIS CALLS, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, RUBBER BULLETS OR BEANBAGS. ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION I HAVE IS TO REVISIT THE CURRENT MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS RESPONSE PROTOCOL, AS I BELIEVE IT MAY HAVE, UH, THE POTENTIAL FOR, UH, AN INDIVIDUAL STILL HARMING THEMSELVES OR HARMING OTHERS IF WE ARE NOT ABLE TO RESPOND TO THAT CRISIS CALL EITHER BECAUSE, UH, WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF ON HAND OR, OR FOR WHATEVER REASON, BUT I DO BELIEVE WE NEED TO REEVALUATE THE CURRENT MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS RESPONSE PROTOCOL. UH, IN ADDITION, I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE INCREASE, UH, STAFFING OF THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT SO THAT M H U OFFICERS CAN RESPOND TO CRISIS CALLS 24 7. I RECOMMEND THAT WE ESTABLISH A CLEAR MISSION, GOALS AND METRICS FOR PERFORMANCE OF THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT AND THAT WE REPORT ON THOSE ACCOMPLISHMENTS QUARTERLY. UM, AND, AND LASTLY, HERE'S A, UH, ONE MORE SUGGESTION FOR CONSIDERATION IS THAT ACTUALLY I'LL SAVE IT FOR FOR, UM, PUBLIC SAFETY. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS. SECTION TWO IS THE RACIAL EQUITY RECOMMENDATIONS. WE WILL PUT THESE ON THE SCREEN FOR THE COMMITTEE TO REVIEW, AND THEN I WILL CALL ON COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THESE COUNCILWOMAN ANDREW SULLIVAN. UM, ONE OF THE POINTS THAT I WANNA POINT OUT IS UNDER, UH, BULLET 0.2. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE ARE USING THIS ACROSS THE BOARD AND, AND TO ALLEVIATE THE WORD SUSPECTS AND JUST TO ADD IN INDIVIDUAL. UM, I LIKE TO SEE THAT CHANGED IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS GOING FORWARD. UM, AND JUST A MORE OPEN COMMUNICATION AND FOLLOW UP AND PROVIDE US AS A CITY COUNCIL FOLLOW UP ON ANY INQUIRIES FROM A FAMILY AS IT RELATES TO, UM, A SITUATION THAT HAS, UH, ARISEN. THOSE ARE MY RECOMMENDATIONS. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN VRAN. YES. I'D LIKE TO, UM, RECOMMEND AS PART OF THIS THAT WE WOULD PUT IN THERE, UM, AN ACCELERATION FOR TRAINING FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, ON EQUITY AND UNCONSCIOUS BIAS TRAINING BY THE OFFICE OF EQUITY. UM, IF WE CAN ACCELERATE THAT AS ONE OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. RECOMMENDATIONS. I KNOW MANY OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS TRAINING WITH THE OFFICE OF EQUITY, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN ACCELERATE THAT, UM, AS ONE OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. THANK YOU. [01:10:01] THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. IN ADDITION, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, MODIFY THE WORD IN THE FIRST BULLET AS OPPOSED TO SURVEYING. I BELIEVE IT SHOULD SAY OBSERVES OR MONITOR, I'M SORRY, PATROL SURVEILLANCE. PATROL, SORRY. PATROL OR MONITOR. IN ADDITION, I'D LIKE TO ADD THE FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATIONS. I RECOMMEND THAT WE REVISIT RECOMMENDATIONS FROM MAYOR IVY TAYLOR'S, COUNCIL ON POLICE COMMUNITY RELATIONS, SPECIFICALLY EXPANDING THE SAFE PROGRAM AND TRACKING THE SUCCESS OF EXPLORER PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS IN BECOMING POLICE OFFICERS. AND IT, I'D ALSO LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT COUNCIL CONSIDER, OR SORRY, THAT PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE CONSIDER ESTABLISHING A REGULAR FORUM, UH, FOR COMMUNITY FEEDBACK ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SUCH AS AN ADVISORY BOARD. I RECOMMEND THAT WE EVALUATE HOW S A P D RECRUITS FROM THE LOCAL AREA AND DEVELOP A STRONGER MODEL FOR RECRUITING LOCALLY. I RECOMMEND WE CONSIDER INCREASING FUNDING TO AGENCIES THAT BENEFIT YOUNG PEOPLE OF COLOR WHO ARE AT RISK OF INTERACTING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, UH, AGENCIES SUCH AS MY BROTHER'S KEEPER, SAN ANTONIO. AND LASTLY, I RECOMMEND THAT WE INVITE OUR LOCAL, OUR S A P D OFFICERS TO PLAY A ROLE IN ESTABLISHING THE MEANS AND METRICS FOR IMPROVING THE DEPARTMENT'S RACIAL EQUITY OUTCOME. ARE THERE ANY MORE COMMENTS ON THE RACIAL EQUITY RECOMMENDATIONS? THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE LAST SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS, , THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE L G B T Q, UH, SORRY, ON GENDER AND POLICING, GENDER EQUITY AND POLICING. THEY ARE ON THE SCREEN AND I WILL MOVE TO COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK OR ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS. COUNCILWOMAN ANDREW SULLIVAN. UM, AT THIS TIME, I'M GOOD WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS AS FOLLOWS ON SCREEN. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN VRAN? YEAH, CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, ON THE FIRST BULLET POINT, IF WE CAN PLEASE ADD WHERE IT SAYS A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW CRIMES AGAINST, IF WE CAN INCLUDE WOMEN AND THE L G B T COMMUNITY ARE HANDLED, FOLLOWED UP, AND IF SOLVED BY S A P D, PLEASE. AND THAT IS, UH, THE ONLY REC ONLY COMMENT I HAVE HERE. THANK YOU. ANDY, DO YOU HAVE ANY CLOSING? WELL, ANDY, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? UH, YES, UH, COUNCILWOMAN AS WE, UM, UH, OBVIOUSLY WE TALKED AT EXECUTIVE SESSION ABOUT SOME OF THE LEGAL ISSUES, UH, TIED TO THE RECOMMENDATION AS A AND AS A CONSEQUENCE OF THAT, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SOME, UH, WORDING CHANGES TO SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT CONCEPTUALLY THEY'LL BE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME. BUT YEAH, WE'LL ADDRESS SOME OF THE LEGAL ISSUES WE DISCUSSED BY, UH, SOME WORD CHANGES TO THE ACTUAL RECOMMENDATIONS. BUT AGAIN, CONCEPTUALLY, UH, THEY'LL, THEY'LL BE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME AS WHAT, WHAT WAS DISCUSSED HERE. THANK YOU, ANDY. SO AT THIS POINT, THE, THE MOTION THAT WE WOULD, UH, LIKE TO ENTER ENTERTAIN IS TO APPROVE IN CONCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE DISCUSSED TODAY WITH THE ADDITIONS AND CHANGES RECOMMENDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBERS. AND IF THAT MOTION IS APPROVED, THEN UH, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND CITY STAFF WOULD TAKE THE CHANGES THAT WE GAVE THEM, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING INTO ANY TROUBLE WITH THE LANGUAGE. AND THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE FORWARDED TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE FOR THEIR MAY 18TH MEETING. SO, I, I GUESS, I'M SORRY, THE MOTION IS TO, UH, APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS AS DISCUSSED, UH, AND FORWARD TO PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING. IS THAT RIGHT, SAN? OKAY, AT THIS POINT I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION MOVED. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE WILL GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. [01:15:01] AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE IN GOING THROUGH ALL OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE'LL, WE'LL SEE THEM AGAIN, UH, ON TUESDAY AT PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING. SO THANK YOU ALL. UH, IT WAS A LOT OF WORK. ARE WE ADJOURNED? WE'RE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.