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THIS IS THE CITY OF SAN, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD.
UH, UH, SEMI-ANNUAL MEETING, MAY 20TH, 2021.
[1. Call to Order]
CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? JOANNE NELSON.ALSO PRESENT IN THE MEETING FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ARE ERIC BURNS AND SAVITA RAI FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
AMIN TAMAZ, DEPUTY DIRECTOR JENNY RAMIREZ, CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER.
DANNY LEG DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MANAGER.
MICHAEL ESTI, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MANAGER.
PHIL LANEY, SENIOR SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER.
AND MYSELF AS ORTIZ, CHAIR OF CORMA.
OKAY, SO INTERPRETATION SERVICES.
COULD WE HAVE, UM, COULD WE ROLL THAT VIDEO, PLEASE? INTERPRET.
THE CHAIRMAN'S STATEMENT'S GONNA BE SHORT AND SWEET.
PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES OR ANY DEVICE THAT MAY DISRUPT THIS VIRTUAL HEARING.
NO PERSON SHALL DELAY OR DISRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS OR DISOBEY THE ORDER OF THE CHAIR.
IF ANYONE PRESENT WISHES TO SPEAK REGARDING ANY AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE SIGN IN ON THE PERSONS TO BE HEARD SHEET OR ADVISE A CODE OFFICER, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF MEMBER.
ALL PERSONS WISHING TO SPEAK SHALL BE CALLED FORWARD WHEN THEIR PERSPECTIVE CASE IS REACHED.
PLEASE NOTE THAT IT'S UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON, EXCUSE ME, PRESENT IN THIS BUILDING TO SOLICIT OR PEDAL SERVICES REGARDING ANY PROPERTY UNDER CONSIDERATION BY THE BOARD DURING THE COURSE OF THIS VIRTUAL HEARING.
AS PER CITY CODE SECTION 16 DASH 2 36, THANK YOU TO PROTECT THE HEALTH OF THE PUBLIC AND LIMIT THE POTENTIAL SPREAD OF COVID 19.
THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD IS HOLDING MEETINGS VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE.
THESE MEETING STANDARDS ARE BASED UPON THE VARIOUS SUSPENDED PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT ISSUED BY THE TEXAS GOVERNOR IN RESPONSE TO THE C OVID 19 CRISIS AND ARE IN PLACE UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN WATCH AND LISTEN TO THIS MEETING BY VISITING WWW.SANANTONIO.GOV/DSD OR BY CALLING IN FOR AUDIO ONLY AT TWO TEN TWO OH SIX LIVE.
TO INCORPORATE PUBLIC COMMENTS, THERE ARE FOUR OPPORTUNITIES.
PLEASE INCLUDE EMAIL OR MAIL COMMENTS, DROPPING OFF COMMENTS, LEAVING VOICEMAIL, OR ASKING TO BE CALLED DURING THE MEETING.
THE OWNER OR OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE HAS UNLIMITED TIME TO SPEAK ON THEIR RESPECTIVE AGENDA ITEM.
PUBLIC STATEMENTS OR COMMENTS WILL BE LIMITED TO TWO MINUTES FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION BY THE OWNER.
STAFF WILL READ INTO THE RECORD ANY EMAILS OR LETTERS RECEIVED.
STAFF WILL ALSO PLAY ANY MESSAGES RECEIVED BY VOICEMAIL.
LASTLY, FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO RECEIVE A CALLBACK, WE WILL CALL THEM TO STATE THEIR TWO MINUTE COMMENTS.
SPANISH INTERPRETERS ARE ON STANDBY AS NEEDED.
THE OWNER WILL BE, WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL WITH AN UNLIMITED TIME, ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS BOARD QUESTIONS.
[3. Approval of Minutes]
APPROVAL OF MINUTES.[00:05:01]
IT IS ROBERT TAPIA.YOU HAVE ME APPROVE THE MINUTES.
UH, YES, THE, UM, DID EVERYBODY GET A CHANCE TO REVIEW THEM? YES.
I KNOW IT'S BEEN SIX MONTHS, BUT, UM, MAYBE IF YOU READ, IF YOU WERE ABLE TO READ OVER IT, IT DID BRING BACK A FEW MEMORIES.
NOT A WHOLE LOT, BUT IF EVERYBODY, UM, COULD WE GET A, UM, WE DID, DID WE GET AN APPRO, UM, A MOTION? I MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
AND DO WE HAVE A SECOND? IT'S ROBERT TAPIS.
SO, UH, WHO, WHO MADE THE MOTION? MR. FRED.
AND, UM, AND MR. TAPIA MADE THE SECOND.
AND, UH, CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL? UH, MS. BROWN? AYE.
UH, MOTION PASSES WITH EIGHT TO ZERO.
ALRIGHT, THE NEXT THING ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? UM, NO CHAIR.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.
[5. Ceremonial Items]
ITEMS. DO WE HAVE ANY CEREMONIAL ITEMS? GOOD MORNING, MS. BROWN.YES, WE DO HAVE ONE CEREMONIAL ITEM.
UM, IT'S VIRTUAL, SO WE'LL JUST BE, UM, READING THE, THE ITEM AND DESCRIBING IT.
THIS IS, UH, IN REGARDS TO, UH, OUR PREVIOUS, UM, BOARD MEMBER CAMILLE RODRIGUEZ BURANT.
UM, SHE WAS ORIGINALLY APPOINTED BY THE COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL FROM COUNCIL DISTRICT SEVEN IN MARCH 19TH, 2020, AND SERVED AS A BOARD MEMBER FOR THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD THROUGH FEBRUARY THE EIGHTH OF 2021.
SHE WAS FULFILLING THE PROFESSIONAL PROPERTY MANAGER CATEGORY.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY, MS. UM, RODRIGUEZ BURGAN, UM, ENDED UP RESIGNING.
SHE DID HAVE SOME CONFLICTS DURING THE COVID DURING THE YEAR OF, UH, 2020.
UM, IT BECAME, UH, VERY DIFFICULT AND SHE RAN INTO TOO MANY CONFLICTS.
BUT NEVERTHELESS, WE ARE THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THAT SHE DID PARTICIPATE IN THE BOARD.
UM, WE DO HAVE A CERTIFICATE THAT WE WILL BE SENDING TO HER, UM, FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR OUR APPRECIATION, UH, FOR THE TIME SHE DID SPEND WITH US.
AND, UM, THAT, THAT CERTIFICATE WILL BE COMING FROM THE, THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR.
SO OUR OFFICE WILL BE WORKING WITH COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL, UM, TO GET A REPLACEMENT.
SO WE DO HAVE THAT IN THE WORKS AT AS WE SPEAK.
BUT NEVERTHELESS, YOU KNOW, ANY TIME THAT WE DO HAVE ANY OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS THAT SPEND THE TIME, TAKE THE TIME TO APPLY, TAKE THE TIME TO ATTEND OUR MEETINGS, UM, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DO EXTEND OUR GRATITUDE FOR THE TIME THAT WAS SERVED IF, UM, EVEN THOUGH SHE DIDN'T GET TO FULFILL THE FULL, THE FULL TIME ABOARD.
BUT, UH, WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT, UH, NOTATION FOR SURE, UH, ON THE RECORD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THAT.
AND, AND THAT GOES TO ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO DO, ARE CURRENTLY STILL ON THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH
I'LL HAVE TO TALK TO JUDY ABOUT THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SURVIVED THESE VIRTUAL HEARINGS.
WE MAY HAVE TO COME UP WITH THAT, BUT, UH, I KNOW RIGHT.
THANK YOU FOR THE CONTINUING SERVICE OF EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, UH, FOR YOUR PATIENCE AS WELL.
SO IT'S A CEREMONY ITEM FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S NO LONGER WITH THE BOARD, BUT ALSO JUST A, A TRUE THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY WHO'S CONTINUING ON AND THE FLEXIBILITY AND JUST ROLLING WITH IT, UM, HAS BEEN, UH, VERY, VERY HELPFUL FOR US.
WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING THAT.
OKAY, SO THE NEXT ONE IS, NEXT ITEM
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IS, UH, EMERGENCY DEMOS.THAT IS ME AGAIN, THIS IS JENNY RAMIREZ, CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER,
I'VE GOT ONE EMERGENCY DEMOLITION TO READ INTO THE RECORD AS WELL.
THE STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 1934 LAMAR STREET IN COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO WAS DEMOLISHED AS, AS A, UM, AN EMERGENCY DUE TO THE
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FIRE ON THE, UH, MAIN STRUCTURE AND LONG-TERM DETERIORATION OF THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.UM, THE MAIN STRUCTURE, THE FIRE OCCURRED ON APRIL THE 21ST.
THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES, UM, THE LONG-TERM SUN DETERIORATION OCCURRED ON MAY THE SIXTH.
THE DEMOLITION OF THE STRUCTURES OF BOTH STRUCTURES ACTUALLY OCCURRED ON MAY THE 10TH OF 2021.
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 75.
NO FURTHER ACTION IS NEEDED BY THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.
AND WE DO HAVE, UM, ON THE SCREEN SOME BEFORE AND AFTER PHOTOS OF THE, UH, ACTIONS THAT DID OCCUR.
OKAY, WELL THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THAT DOES, THAT DOES COMPLETE MY REPORTS AS WELL.
I GUESS WE HAVE TO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION NEXT THING ON THE AGENDA.
WE, UH, UH, AS, AS FAR AS FOR LEGAL THERE, UH, THERE ARE NO POINTS FOR US TO BRING UP AN EXECUTIVE UNLESS, UH, MADAM CHAIR, UH, YOU HAVE ANY LEGAL QUESTIONS AS TO, UH, LITIGATION MATTERS OR ATTORNEY CLIENT QUESTIONS.
UH, WE CAN CERTAINLY GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AS NECESSARY.
I DON'T THINK THAT I HAVE ANY, UH, LEGAL QUESTIONS.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE ON THE BOARD HAVE ANYTHING FOR THE ATTORNEYS? NOBODY HAS ANYTHING FOR THE ATTORNEYS.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO.
OH, YOU'LL BE HEARING FROM ME LATER.
SO
ALRIGHT, WELL, WE HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE, FOR THE, UH, FOR THE, UH, UH, ATTORNEY.
[8. Deputy Director's Report]
DIRECTOR'S REPORT.THIS IS EMIN THOMAS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
UM, BEFORE I START, I GUESS WITH, UH, THE PERFORMANCE, I WANNA THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR THE HARD WORK YOU DO.
UH, LET'S ACTUALLY MAKE SAN ANTONIO SAFER PLACE.
I KNOW IT'S ALWAYS A TOUGH DECISION TO ORDER DEMOLITION.
I MEAN, THAT'S ALWAYS THE LAST RESORT, BUT WHEN IT'S NEEDED, YOU GUYS ARE DOING AMAZING JOB.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, FOR EVERYTHING YOU DID, AND THANK YOU.
SO, SO THEN, UH, LET ME JUMP INTO THE PERFORMANCE MEASURES AND MY TEAM GETS ALL THE EASY STUFF AND THEY GIVE ME THE TOUGH ONE TO TALK ABOUT, UM, ESPECIALLY THIS YEAR WITH, WITH COVID.
SO BEFORE I START ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBERS, UM, I JUST WANNA MENTION, OBVIOUSLY EVERYBODY KNOWS WE, WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THE PANDEMIC AND WE HAD TO PULL ABOUT 30% OF OUR CODE STAFF TO WORK ON EMERGENCY DECLARATION ENFORCEMENT.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS WHEN THE MAYOR DECLARED, UH, AN EMERGENCY, AND, UH, WE HAVE THE C D C RULES IN REGARDS TO MASKS AND SOCIAL DISTANCING AND FINES AT EVERY DOOR, I GUESS, ON BUSINESSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, WE WERE TASKED TO ENFORCE THAT.
SO I HAD ABOUT 30 CODE OFFICERS PULLED FROM THEIR NO DUTY TO DO THIS, AND THEY'VE DONE IT FOR, UH, UH, I WOULD SAY A YEAR, LIKE FEW, FEW WEEKS SHY A YEAR.
UM, AND AT THE MEANTIME, DUE TO THE, THE HIT ON OUR BUDGET, WE WERE TASKED WITH ANY VACANCY WE HAVE, WE ARE GONNA FREEZE THAT VACANCY.
SO WE HAD ABOUT 10% VACANCIES.
SO HONESTLY, WE WERE WORKING WITH ONLY 60% OF OUR TEAM.
TRYING TO DO THE JOB OF, AGAIN, THE FULL TEAM.
UM, AND WE, WE, WE CAN, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE, WE ARE BEHIND ON A LOT OF THINGS.
UM, LUCKILY NOW WE GOT THE TEAM BACK AND NOW WE ARE TRYING TO CATCH UP.
BUT, UH, I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK GET A GOOD, EVEN AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WE DON'T HAVE, UH, WE HAVE ONLY A COUPLE MORE MONTHS OR THREE MONTHS TO, TO GET OUR FISCAL YEAR DONE.
UM, SO AGAIN, WE BEST TO TO, TO, UH, GET BACK ON TRACK.
AND I GUESS THE LAST THING I WANNA TALK ABOUT, DUE TO THE PANDEMIC, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE LOST THEIR JOBS AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE IS A FINANCIAL NEED TECHNICALLY.
SO WE WERE TASKED AS WELL TO ISSUE, WE CALL IT EDUCATION FORM A 30 DAY EDUCATION INSTEAD OF STARTING WITH NOTICES AND POTENTIALLY CITATIONS AFTER THAT.
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AND THERE'S A TALL GRASS, I TALK TO THE OWNER, UH, EXPLAIN TO THEM THE CODE AND GIVE THEM 30 DAYS EDUCATION FORM.AND WHAT, JUST SAY YOU HAVE 30 DAYS TO CLEAN THIS.
SO TECHNICALLY WE DIDN'T STOP THE CLOCK ON THAT CASE.
THAT CASE SEEMS IT'S OPEN TODAY AND WE DIDN'T TOUCH IT FOR 30 DAYS.
SO AFTER 30 DAYS, WE GO OUT THERE AND IF IT'S ALREADY, UH, IN COMPLIANCE, THEN WE ARE GOOD TO GO.
IF IT'S NOT, THEN WE ISSUE THE NORMAL STANDARD NOTICE, 10 DAY NOTICE.
AND THEN AGAIN, DAY 11, WE GO OUT THERE.
AND IF IT'S DONE PERFECT, IF IT'S NOT DONE, THEN WE START ISSUING CITATIONS.
SO WHAT THAT IS, OUR RESPONSE TIME BASICALLY WENT OUT THE WINDOW.
SO AGAIN, LET, LET ME JUMP INTO NUMBERS.
I JUST WANTED TO SHARE ALL THIS INFORMATION BEFORE I GO THROUGH.
SO THE NUMBER OF TOTAL PROACTIVE CASES IS 23,729.
THE REACTIVE ONES, THE ONES WE GET FROM 3 1 1 IS 39,926 YEAR TO DATE.
SO, TIER ONE, NORMALLY TIER ONE, WE ARE, WE NEED TO RESPOND WITHIN ONE TO TWO DAYS.
AND AGAIN, THE, THE BIGGEST, UH, ASPECT ON THIS ONE, AND THE REASON FOR THIS IS, AS I SAID, THE 30 DAY, UH, NOTICE.
UM, SO WHEN, WHEN WE ISSUED THOSE EDUCATION FORMS, THE 30 DAYS, AS I SAID, LIKE THE, THE CLOCK IS STILL TICKING, SO IT DOESN'T SHOW THAT WE DID OUR ORIGINAL INSPECTION WITHIN ONE OR TWO DAYS.
SO EVEN IF I GO THE SAME DAY, WE GET THE CALL, BUT THEN WHEN I GO TO 31, IT'S GONNA COUNT 31 DAYS, UH, TILL WE RESPONDED.
SO WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE CASES THAT THEY SHOW 30 TO 35 DAYS.
AND THEN WE HAVE A LOT OF THEM THAT THEY'RE ONE TO TWO DAYS.
UH, BUT THE AVERAGE CAME UP TO 15.2, TIER TWO, EXACTLY THE SAME CONCEPT, TWO TO THREE DAYS AS OUR GOAL.
THE PROACTIVE RATE, NORMALLY WE ASK OUR TEAM TO BE MINIMUM 65% PROACTIVE.
SO EVERY TIME THEY GO AT A COUPLE OF, UH, UH, INSPECTIONS OR OR CASES WE NEED THEM TO, WHILE THEY'RE IN THAT AREA, IF THEY SEE A VIOLATION ON THEIR OWN, THEY NEED TO, UH, ADD THAT TO THE LIST.
UH, WE ARE AT 37% BECAUSE AGAIN, WE HAD ONLY 60% OF THE TEAM.
SO WE WERE TRYING TO FOCUS MORE ON THE CALLS WE GET, UM, VERSUS TRYING TO
AND THAT'S WHY THE NUMBER IS A LITTLE BIT LOW OR A LOT LOWER THAN WHERE WE NEED TO BE.
COMPLIANCE RATE, UH, WE ARE REQUIRED TO GET EACH CASE COMPLETED WITHIN 45 DAYS.
UH, AND NORMALLY WE WANT 80% OF THOSE, UH, TO BE DONE THAT WAY.
WE ARE AT 71%, SO WE ARE NOT THAT FAR OFF WITH THAT.
EVEN THOUGH WE ARE GIVING PEOPLE 30 DAY EDUCATION FORM, WE ARE MANAGING TO GET 71% OF THE CASES COMPLETELY WITHIN 45 DAYS.
SO, UM, I THINK, I THINK THE TEAM DID GOOD JOB.
JUST AGAIN, IT'S A TOUGH YEAR.
UM, LET ME JUMP INTO GRAFFITI, THEN I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.
SO THE GRAFFITI TEAM IS DOING GOOD SO FAR.
UH, NORMALLY WE, WE WANT, OUR GOAL IS 50,000 IN A YEAR, AND SO FAR WE ARE AT 35,000 SITES, UH, YEAR, YEAR TO DATE.
SO AS I SAID, WE HAVE LIKE ANOTHER QUARTER ALMOST, UH, THAT WE CAN HOPEFULLY WE, WE, WE WILL GET ON TARGET.
UM, THE RESPONSE TIME OR TURNAROUND TIME IS TWO DAYS.
UH, OUR GOAL IS TWO DAYS, BUT WE ARE ACTUALLY MANAGING THAT IN ONE DAY.
SO I THINK PT TEAM IS, IS, UH, DOING, UH, A GREAT JOB.
UH, AND THE GOOD THING IS, YEAH, WE HAVE SOME VACANCY THAT WERE FROZEN, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO PULL ANY OF THEM TO DO ANY DIFFERENT ASSIGNMENT.
SO THEY MANAGED TO KEEP, KEEP THEIR PERFORMANCE GOING.
SO WITH THAT SAID, UH, I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO CODE OR
I JUST HAVE A COMMENT CONSIDERING THAT THE, YOU KNOW, GOVERNOR HAD DONE ALL THIS STUFF DURING THE COVID AND THE, THE, UM, THE, UH, COUNCIL WANTED, YOU KNOW, SERVICES AND THE 30 DAYS TO PUT SIGNS AND NOTICES ON ALL THE BUILDINGS DOWNTOWN AND WHATEVER ELSE.
I THINK YOU ALL DID A REMARKABLE JOB.
I MEAN, IT'S, EVEN THOUGH THE NUMBERS DON'T FIT WHAT YOU ALL DID, RIGHT? I THINK YOU ALL DID A REMARKABLE JOB.
AND THANK YOU FOR DOING ALL OF THAT.
EVELYN APPRECI, THE, OH, ABSOLUTELY.
I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING BECAUSE
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I REMEMBER WHEN WE WENT INTO LOCKDOWN, UH, THE AMOUNT OF GRAFFITI THAT I SAW AROUND THE CITY, ESPECIALLY SINCE I WAS LIVING DOWNTOWN NEAR THE PEARL, WENT UP.AND SO I WAS WALKING EVERY DAY JUST TO GET OUTSIDE AND I WOULD SEE IT MAYBE MIDDAY, AND THEN THE NEXT MORNING WHEN I WENT OUTSIDE IT WAS DOWN.
AND SO YOU ALL WERE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB OF, YOU KNOW, TAKING CARE OF IT.
UM, BUT I KNOW THAT, SO IF YOU SEE GRAFFITI AND YOU'VE SEEN IT FOR A WHILE, YOU SHOULD STILL CALL A THREE ONE ONE NUMBER, RIGHT? YES.
'CAUSE I SEE SOME RIGHT NOW AND I'M JUST LIKE, OKAY, THAT NEEDS TO COME DOWN,
PLEASE LET US KNOW AND THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENT.
OKAY, SO ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE BOARD? NO OTHER COMMENTS? WELL, THANK YOU, AMIN.
JUST TO ADD ON TO WHAT AMIN WAS SAYING, I, I, UH, OBVIOUSLY CODE ENFORCEMENTS MY CLIENT DURING D S D, Y'ALL ARE MY CLIENT, BUT, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT DID JUST, AND I WANT Y'ALL TO KNOW, JUST AN INCREDIBLY AMAZING JOB STARTING FROM WHEN WE WENT INTO LOCKDOWN, UH, SAM AND I AND, UH, JOE, WE WERE THE, UH, COVID RESPONSE LAWYERS AND CODE GOT THE BRUNT OF ENFORCING OH YEAH.
THEY WERE WORKING DON, I MEAN, LIKE CRAZY HOURS.
I ALSO, UH, SO I WANNA GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO WHAT THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH.
AND, UH, SECOND, JUST TO LET Y'ALL KNOW TOO, IF YOU'VE BEEN ASKED QUESTIONS AT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS OR, OR RANDOM NEIGHBORS, UH, STRUCTURES THAT Y'ALL HAVE ORDERED, DEMOLISHED, UM, LAST YEAR AND THE END OF 2019, UH, THE TEXAS, UH, SUPREME COURT ISSUED, UH, STAY ORDER, UH, EFFECTIVE IN APRIL, 2020 THAT, UH, ANY, UH, APPEALS OF DEMOLITION ORDERS WERE EXTENDED AND THEY KEPT EXTENDING THE DATE.
SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S COMING UP, BUT TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PROPERTIES ORDER DEMOLISHED THAT ARE STILL STANDING, IT IS BECAUSE BY LAW, UM, CODE COULDN'T TOUCH THOSE PROPERTIES.
UH, EVERYONE WHO WAS, IF THE BOARD ISSUED A DEMOLITION ORDER AFTER APRIL 1ST, 2020 CODE, CAN'T ENFORCE THE DEMOLITION UNTIL AFTER JUNE 1ST.
SO I JUST WANTED TO LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT.
AND THAT'LL BE, THAT'S PART OF, UH, REFLECTED IN SOME OF THE NUMBERS AS WELL.
YEAH, AND IT'S JUST, UH, UH, I MEAN, JENNY, Y'ALL, UH, IT WAS, THEY'VE DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB AND, UH, I'M SO PROUD OF THEM.
IT'S JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT.
IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S A GREAT TEAM EFFORT.
UH, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S HELP.
AND AGAIN, I'LL, I'LL END THIS AGAIN WITH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS FOR DEDICATING YOUR TIME TO COME TO THOSE MEETINGS AND FIND THE BEST SOLUTION FOR, I GUESS, THE CITIZENS, THE COMMUNITY, AND OUR CITY.
AGAIN, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
I, I, I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH.
UM, WE REALLY NEED YOUR HELP AND YOU GUYS ARE DOING AMAZING JOB FOR US, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
OH, I THINK OUT OF ALL OF THE BOARDS AND SAN BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS IN SAN ANTONIO, AND I SAY THIS WITH PRIDE, WITH THE TEAM THAT WE HAVE, THE LAWYERS, THE, THE BOARD MEMBERS, THE, UM, UH, CODE, I THINK WE HAVE THE MOST PRODUCTIVE AND THE BEST TEAM EVER.
I, I FEEL THAT WHOLEHEARTEDLY BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION ON, UM, ON THE, UM, THE, UH, WHAT IS IT, THE R R, UM, THE, THE HISTORIC
IT'S A LOT, A LOT OF CONFUSION ON THERE.
THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION ON MANY OF THE BOARDS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT.
AND I'M SO PROUD OF THAT BECAUSE WE, WE GET ALONG, WE DO OUR JOBS, AND WHEN WE HAVE DOUBT, WE COME TO THE EXPERTS FOR OPINIONS AND FOR, UH, WHATEVER WE CAN DO.
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ALL THE STAFF.HEY, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? H D R C? THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO THINK OF.
JUST WANNA, UH, THANK YOU, UM, AS WELL.
UH, I KNOW Y'ALL ARE DOING A TREMENDOUS JOB.
IT'S A TOUGH JOB, UH, BUT SOMEBODY'S GOTTA DO IT.
AND, AND, UM, SOME OF THE DECISIONS THAT, THAT I PERSONALLY HAVE TO MAKE, NOT TO MENTION, UH, THE BOARD SOMETIMES CAN COME ACROSS AS AS NEGATIVE OR MAYBE DOWNPLAYING, BUT, UM, A LOT OF TIMES IT'S A FRESH START.
AND, AND WE, WE COME TO THE END OF A CYCLE OF A, OF A RESIDENT OR A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, AND IT'S, AND IT'S, IT'S TOUGH, UH, TO MAKE THAT DECISION, BUT IT, IT'S A FRESH START, IN MY OPINION, FOR THE, FOR THE NEXT GENERATION OF HOMEOWNERS AND BUILDING OWNERS.
AND SO, UM, I MEAN, I, I THINK YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.
IT'S JUST, IT'S, AND IT CAN BE OVERWHELMING.
AND WITH COVID, UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ASK, IS COVID MAYBE GIVING Y'ALL AN EXCUSE TO INCREASE THE BUDGET? HIRE MORE PEOPLE? UM, DOES, THAT'S A LOT OF WORK.
UM, AND SO, AND, AND GET A PIECE OF THE PIE OF THIS SO-CALLED INFRASTRUCTURE BUDGET THAT'S COMING OUR WAY.
WE NEED TO PUT OUR, OUR, OUR HANDS IN THE COOKIE JAR RIGHT NOW TO HELP, HELP EVERYBODY OUT.
AND, UM, SO BEING SAID, THANK YOU.
WE HAVE, HAVE AN AWFUL LOT OF STREETS IN SAN ANTONIO THAT NEED REPAIR AND, AND NOT JUST A, A, A BANDAID THAT ACTUALLY NEED REPAIR.
AND WE HAVE AN AWFUL LOT OF, UM, ROADWAYS AND HIGHWAYS AND, UM, AN AWFUL LOT OF EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS A LITTLE FIXING.
SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOME OF THAT BUDGET.
AND, UM, IF THE GOVERNOR, UM, YOU KNOW, HE'S STRANGE, I'M JUST SAYING.
BUT HOPEFULLY HE WILL SAY YES TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND, UH, WE CAN GET OUR ROADS FIXED HERE IN TEXAS.
DEPENDS ON HOW YOU DEFINE INFRASTRUCTURE, HOWEVER.
SO HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY WE CAN, I KNOW, I KNOW
IF, IF THEY WOULD LISTEN TO AND I, BOTH US COME TO AGREEMENT AND DEFINE IT FOR THEM, IT WOULD BE REAL EASY BECAUSE I COMMUNICATE EXTREMELY WELL.
I I'M ALWAYS GOOD AT A SECOND MOTION.
EVELYN AND DWAYNE SAYS, OKAY,
SO WE HAVE ANY OTHER, UH, ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA HERE? I OH, WE DO.
[9. Staff Updates]
UH, NEXT AGENDA ITEM, MICHAEL ESTI.I HOPE EVERYBODY'S DOING WELL.
OH, MIKEY, HOW ARE YOU? I'M DOING GOOD.
SO I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA BE GIVING YOU THE UPDATE ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, HEARING OFFICER COMPLIANCE FUND.
UH, THIS IS FOR THE ACTIVITY THAT TOOK PLACE FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR.
SO FROM OCTOBER 1ST, 2020, UH, TO THE CURRENT DATE WHEN I, WHEN WE RAN THE NUMBERS, WHICH WAS MAY 13TH, 2021.
UM, THIS IS A CASE, UH, A CASE IN FINE SUMMARY.
UH, THE FINES CURRENTLY DUE TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING OFFICER.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE ABOUT $152,000.
UH, THE VIOLATION COST DUE IS ABOUT, UH, 9,660.
AND THAT'S THE AMOUNT THAT, UH, GOES RIGHT TO THE COMPLIANCE FUND.
THERE'S A SMALL PORTION OF EACH CITATION, $20 THAT GOES TOWARDS IT.
AND, UM, THE TOTAL, UH, FINES DUE IS 162 TH ABOUT $162,000.
YOU GO DOWN, YOU'LL SEE THE FINES PAID.
UH, THE FINE AMOUNTS PAID AT THIS TIME HAVE BEEN 15,000 TO $100.
UH, THERE'S ABOUT $147,000 OUTSTANDING.
AND NORMALLY OUR, UH, MUNICIPAL COURT WORKS ON COLLECTING THESE AS LONG AS, UH, ALONG WITH THE, UH, OUR CITY ATTORNEYS.
UM, SO DON'T WORRY THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON IT.
UM, BUT IN TOTAL, WE HAVE ABOUT 162,000, UH, DOLLARS OF FINES, UH, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT PEOPLE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND PAY.
UM, OUR COMPLIANCE ASSISTANCE FUND, UH, IS STILL FULL.
UH, BECAUSE, UM, IF YOU'LL LOOK TO THE BOTTOM, UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT, UM, DURING C OVID 19, A LOT OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING OFFICERS WEREN'T MEETING.
UM, AND WE WEREN'T GIVEN A LOT OF CITATIONS 'CAUSE WE WERE HELPING PEOPLE.
WELL, THE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING OFFICER ACTUALLY APPROVES, UM,
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COMPLIANCE FUND DOLLARS.SO, UH, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GIVE ANYTHING NOW, NOW THAT, UH, EVERYTHING'S REOPENING AND WE'RE GETTING ROLLING AGAIN, WE'RE HOPING TO GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF BEFORE THE NEW BUDGET'S, UH, THE NEW BUDGET YEAR HITS.
THAT WAY WE CAN UTILIZE THAT MONEY THAT, UM, TO HELP SOME CITIZENS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO BY FIXING THEIR HOUSE OR, OR DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR PROJECTS THAT, UH, THEY HAVE.
SO, UH, PLEASE KNOW THAT WE ARE WORKING ON IT.
UM, AND AS, UH, AS SOON AS WE GET SOME PROJECTS, WE'LL, WE'LL LINE THEM UP.
I KNOW THAT WAS KIND OF QUICK, BUT, UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I DON'T.
NO QUESTIONS? AREN'T YOU LUCKY?
ALRIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OKAY, SO WE ARE MISSING TWO OR THREE PEOPLE ON BETWEEN PANEL A AND WELL, PANEL B.
AND, UH, JUDY, I HAVE A QUESTION.
WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO ABOUT, UM, LET'S SEE, UH, GOMA GAMMA AND, UH, POWELL AND, UH, PERONE AND, AND BRITAIN, WE, THAT MAY BE A QUESTION LEGAL, UM, THAT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN THE B C GUIDELINES AND POLICY PROCEDURES AND OUTLINED IN THE DIRECTIVE.
WITH THE POLICY, MADAM CARE, UM, I'LL HAVE TO REVIEW THAT AGAIN, BUT, UH, UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE SPECIFIC NUMBER OF ABSENCES, UH, AT THAT POINT.
UH, THE CHAIR, UH, UPON A VOTE, I'M SORRY, I, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT DETAILS.
I WILL CERTAINLY EMAIL ALL OF YOU WITH THAT INFORMATION.
BUT, UH, AFTER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF ABSENCES, UH, THE CHAIR WOULD SEND A LETTER TO THE BOARD MEMBER INDICATING THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE REMOVED.
UH, DUE TO THE STATED REASONS, THE BOARD MEMBER DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO RESPOND TO THE BOARD IF THEY WISH TO CONTEST IT.
AND THEN AT THAT POINT, UM, A DECISION CAN BE MADE BY THE FULL BOARD IF IT'S CONTESTED.
I MEAN, WE NEED PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE.
NOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS PICKING THESE PEOPLE ACCORDING TO THEIR, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN CATEGORIES, BUT THEY'RE PICKING PEOPLE WHO HAVE JOBS AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA MISS A JOB TO COME, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS SOME PROPERTY FOR US, FOR THE CITY.
AND I THINK THAT THAT IS A SAD CASE BECAUSE, UH, WHEN, UH, THE COUNCIL PERSON PUT THESE GUIDELINES INTO EFFECT, I THINK THAT HE OVERRULED US WITHOUT ANY INPUT FROM US.
AND, UH, IT WAS ALL DUE TO THAT ONE PROPERTY.
SO, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT SOME OF THE DISTRICTS HAVE CHOSEN ARE WORKING CLASS PEOPLE.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT OR RETIRED PEOPLE WHO HA MAYBE WAS A, A, I DON'T KNOW, A SPEECH THERAPIST OR, UH, WHATEVER IT IS, THE CRITERIA IS, BUT WE NEED 'EM EITHER SEMI-RETIRED PART-TIME OR RETIRED.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THAT WITH HIS GUIDELINES IN PLACE, BUT WORKING PEOPLE ARE JUST NOT GOING TO COME BECAUSE IT TAKES SO MUCH TIME FROM THEIR DAY TO COME DOWN HERE OR TO DO A VIDEO, UH, AND, UM, AND TRY TO GET THIS WORK DONE.
SO I, YOU KNOW, IF THIS, IF IT'S POSSIBLE, I WILL SEND A LETTER TO SEVERAL OF THESE PEOPLE WHO HAVE JUST NOT SHOWN UP.
JUST TO COMMENT, THIS IS DWAYNE NELSON, JUST TO COMMENT.
WE DO HAVE QUOTE, WORKING CLASS PEOPLE, UNQUOTE, ON THE BOARD, UH, AT THE PRESENT TIME.
AND THEY ARE MAKING THE SACRIFICES THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE TO BE PRESENT.
BUT YOU'VE ALSO GOT THE ISSUE OF TECHNOLOGY THAT IS A DISADVANTAGE IN SOME CASES.
YOU'VE ALSO GOT THE ISSUE OF, UH, CONFLICTS WITH, UH, OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN IF WE WERE MEETING PHYSICALLY IN THE BUILDING.
SO IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE CONSIDER IN NOVEMBER, ASSUMING THAT WE HAVE A CHANCE TO GET BACK INTO THE BUILDING RATHER THAN DOING A VIDEO CONFERENCING.
UH, BUT A LETTER IS ALWAYS APPROPRIATE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'VE GOT, UH, SOME OF THE DEFICIENCIES THAT WE'VE GOT.
WE EVEN HAVE A VACANCY ON PANEL B FROM DISTRICT SEVEN MM-HMM.
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SO, UH, I'LL GET WITH, I GUESS I'LL GET WITH JUDY OR SAVITA OR ERIC AND, UM, SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THIS AND, UM, SEE IF IT'S, IF IT'S APPROPRIATE OR NOT.CAN WE, CAN WE SWITCH OVER TO THE ATTENDANCE, UH, SLIDE AS WELL? AND THAT, THAT KIND OF ALSO GIVES SOME, I, I'M SORRY, SAVI ON THAT, BUT YEAH, THAT, THIS ALSO KIND OF HELPS PAINT THE PICTURE DEFINITELY FOR BOARD MEMBERS WHO'VE DEFINITELY BEEN ABLE TO COMMIT VERSUS SOME WHO'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, EITHER CONFLICTS OR, YOU KNOW, ISSUES THAT HAVE ARISEN POSSIBLY FROM THE, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO GO FULLY, UM, YOU KNOW, DIGITAL, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE ISSUES WITH THEIR, UM, INTERNET ACCESS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, OR THROUGH, YOU KNOW, CONFLICTS WITH OUR MEDICAL COMMUNITY.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY OF THE MEMBERS THAT ARE PART OF THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY.
I KNOW THAT THAT COMMUNITY'S DEFINITELY BEEN UP, UP UPENDED DURING THE COVID COVID RESPONSE IN SOME INSTANCES.
OH, WE UN WE UNDERSTAND THAT AND, AND CAN APPRECIATE IT, BUT WE HAVE TWO, TWO BOARD MEMBERS HERE THAT IS ZERO.
I MEAN, NOT, NOT EVEN ONE VIDEO CONFERENCE.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE TOUGH.
AND THEN THERE'S ONE WITH 13 AND, UH, ONE WITH 20.
SHE, SHE'S RESIGNING AND, UH, ONE WITH 40.
SO I, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T, I SEE THAT AS BEING A PRACTICING BOARD MEMBER.
I, I, I DON'T SEE THAT AS ANYTHING.
I JUST SEE THAT AS THE, THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL PERSON, YOU KNOW, ASSIGNED THIS PERSON TO THIS BOARD AND THEY JUST WALKED AWAY.
I MEAN, IT'S, THEY DID NOTHING.
MAYBE THEY HAD GOOD INTENTIONS, BUT WE ALL KNOW WHAT THAT LEADS.
SO I, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO, I WANNA SEE PEOPLE ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE.
THIS IS A GREAT BOARD AND WE DO A GREAT SERVICE TO SAN ANTONIO.
SO, UM, I, I'D JUST LIKE TO SEE PEOPLE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THIS AND WHO WANT TO BE INVOLVED WITH OUR BOARD.
MS. BROWN, UH, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU.
UH, THIS IS, I MEAN, TWO MONTHS OF, SO LET'S ALLOW CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO REVIEW THE RULES AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP.
I MEAN, WE NEED TO TAKE THAT NEXT STEP, WHATEVER THAT IS, AND THEN WE MOVE FORWARD.
SAVITA, THAT'S ON YOUR SHOULDERS NOW,
AND, UH, I WILL HAVE, UH, SOMETHING OUT TO YOU, UH, DWAYNE, UM, BY TOMORROW.
AND, UH, SO I, I APOLOGIZE, IT'S BEEN SO LONG SINCE I LOOKED AT OUR, OUR LAST POLICIES, BUT, UH, I WILL HAVE THAT DOWN AND I WILL SEND IT TO YOU BY THE END OF DAY TOMORROW.
SO IF YOU CAN GIVE US THE WEEK, MS, UH, MS. BROWN, JUDY AND I CAN WORK TOGETHER AND WE'LL, WE CAN COME UP WITH THE ATTENDANCE FOR EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS THAT YOU RAISED A CONCERN ABOUT.
UM, WE CAN KIND OF BREAK IT OUT FOR, FOR THEIR INDIVIDUAL ATTENDANCE, WHETHER IT'S COMPLETELY 0% OR WHICH DATES THEY DID ATTEND, AND HOW MANY OUT OF HOW MANY BOARDS, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN AND WHICH ONES THEY MISSED.
SO WE CAN HAVE THAT KIND OF FACTUAL INFORMATION AS GOOD BACKUP AS WELL.
ALRIGHT, WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A PLAN.
APPRECIATE, AND THIS IS ROBERT TAPIA.
UM, HAVE WE CONSIDERED AN, UM, A POSITION OF BEING AN ALTERNATE, HAVING TWO OR THREE ALTERNATES READY TO STEP IN WHEN, WHEN MAYBE SOMEBODY CAN'T ATTEND? THAT MIGHT BE A LEGAL QUESTION.
UM, THE, UH, THE CODE, UH, DOES NOT ALLOW FOR ALTERNATES.
IT'S, UH, VERY SPECIFIC AS TO 14 MEMBERS AND 14 MEMBERS ONLY.
UH, WE COULD, UH, CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, BUT IT WOULD REQUIRE A REVISION TO THE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE, UH, TASKED BY CITY COUNCIL.
BUT MEMORY CALLS ARE, IS CORRECT, AND I ACCEPT THE FACT THAT MEMORY IS NOT CORRECT.
OFTENTIMES, FOR ME AT LEAST, I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD A SINGLE BOARD.
WELL, WE DID HAVE ONE BOARD THAT WE, UH, HAD TO CANCEL BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A QUORUM, AND WE HAD ONE BOARD THAT WAS GOING TO POTENTIALLY LOSE A QUORUM.
UH, BUT, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO COVER THAT WITH, UH, SOMEONE ELSE COMING IN TO COVER THAT VACANCY.
SO WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD THAT MUCH OF A PROBLEM BECAUSE BASICALLY THE ALTERNATES ARE THE ALTERNATE PANEL PER SE.
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AND IT SEEMED TO HAVE WORKED OUT.SO ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS SUBJECT? NO COMMENTS.
LET'S MOVE ON DOWN THE ROAD HERE.
DANNY MENT, SERVICE COMMAND FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT.
ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA BE COVERING THE B S B ACTIVITY PENALTY REPORT FOR THIS PRETTY MUCH THIS SECOND, FIRST HALF OF THE FISCAL YEAR, UM, BEGINNING FROM OCTOBER 1ST THROUGH APRIL THE 30TH, 2021.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT HERE ON THE VERY FIRST PAGE HERE IS GONNA BE THE DP CASES THAT HAVE FOUND BEFORE THE BOARD.
UH, THOSE A TOTAL OF 57 ACTIONS, 52 WERE ACTUAL PROPERTIES THAT WERE PRESENTED BEFORE THE BOARD, AND FIVE OF THEM WERE ACTUALLY PULLED FROM THE AGENDA.
SO THAT GIVES A TOTAL OF 57 CASES OR DP RELATED CASES THAT WERE, UH, ON THE AGENDA, UH, THIS FIRST HALF OF THE YEAR.
IF WE SCROLL DOWN, UH, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE
UH, A TOTAL OF 27 ACTIONS OR ACTIVITIES WERE RECORDED THIS PAST, UH, TWO QUARTERS.
UH, FIVE ACTUAL CASES WERE, UH, HEARD BY THE BOARD, ACTIONS WERE TAKEN, AND TWO AGENDA ITEMS WERE PULLED, UM, FROM THE AGENDA.
UH, THE NEXT ITEMS WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE GONNA BE THE APPEALS.
THERE WAS TWO APPEALS, UH, THIS FIRST HALF OF THE YEAR.
UM, AND THEN THE TOTAL OF, UH, 26 ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS. THOSE ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS ARE EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS THAT WERE READ INTO THE RECORD COURT HARMS AGREEMENTS THAT WERE READ INTO THE RECORD, ANY RECENT ORDERS THAT WERE ALSO, UH, PRESENTED.
SO A TOTAL FOR THIS FIRST HALF OF THE YEAR, THERE WAS 112, UH, ACTIONS TAKEN BY THIS BOARD, IF YOU WILL.
AND, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, PANEL B AND, AND PANEL A, UM, THERE WAS SOME DISPARITY THERE, BUT IT WAS PART BECAUSE OF THE, SOME OF THE, UM, HEARINGS THAT WERE CANCELED DUE TO THE, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT REASONS.
SO, UM, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S JUST A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT WE DID THIS PAST QUARTER, OR EXCUSE ME, THE LAST TWO QUARTERS.
YES, YOU GUYS HAVE, THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS? NO, NOT FOR ME.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE PANEL? FROM THE BOARD? OKAY.
NOW THE SECOND REPORT'S GONNA BE VERY EASY REPORT.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE ANYTHING ON THAT REPORT.
DOESN'T MEAN
HOWEVER, THE OWNER CAME INTO COMPLIANCE, THEREFORE, UH, NO ONE WAS INVOICED FOR THE, UH, THE PENALTIES THAT WERE ASSESSED.
SO, BUT THERE WERE FOUR NON-COMPLIANCE PENALTIES, UH, ORDERED THIS PAST, UH, UH, HALF OF THE YEAR, I GUESS.
AGAIN, THANK YOU GUYS FOR WHAT YOU DO, AND APPRECIATE ALL THE HELP FROM SERVICE AND COMMUNITY.
I'M GOING TO, UH, PROVIDE Y'ALL, UH, JUST A REFRESHER ON ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.
UH, AT THE END, I'M GOING TO TALK SPECIFICALLY JUST AS A REMINDER OF WHAT YOUR MOTIONS SHOULD LOOK LIKE AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE HEARING.
UM, BUT, UH, TO BEGIN WITH, UH, AS A QUASI JUDICIAL BODY, UH, AS I'VE TOLD MOST OF Y'ALL IN THE ORIENTATION, AND, UH, SOME OF Y'ALL HAVE HEARD THIS NOW FOR GOING ON NINE YEARS, WERE A
ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER ARE IN PLACE TO PROVIDE A CERTAINTY TO THE MANNER IN WHICH THE HEARINGS ARE HELD, AND ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT DUE PROCESS IS BEING AFFORDED.
HOWEVER, THE, THE BOARD ADOPTS ITS OWN RULES, AND WE HAVE CHOSEN TO FOLLOW ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER TO AN EXTENT.
UM, IT WOULD HINDER THE BOARD IF WE FOLLOWED ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER TO THE T.
UH, FOR ANY OF YOU, UH, THAT HAVE SEEN THE BOOK, ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDERS IS ABOUT 400 PAGES.
THERE'S A MOTION UPON MOTION THAT, UH, DON'T APPLY.
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SO THIS IS JUST, UH, OVERVIEW OF THE, UH, RULES THAT IMPACT THIS BOARD SPECIFICALLY.AND SO, AS Y'ALL KNOW, UH, THE CHAIR PROVIDES LEADERSHIP RESPONSIBLE FOR UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS, ENCOURAGING PARTICIPATION BY THE MEMBERS.
A MEMBER MAY NOT SEE UNTIL HE OR SHE HAS BEEN ACKNOWLEDGED BY THE CHAIR.
THAT IS TO PREVENT, UH, PEOPLE FROM TALKING OVER EACH OTHER AND ALSO TO GIVE DUE RESPECT TO, UH, THOSE THAT ARE APPEARING BEFORE THE BOARD.
UH, READY, UH, WENT THROUGH THAT SO WE COULD SKIP THAT SLIDE.
UH, TALKED ABOUT THAT JUST TO OVER, UH, AGAIN, THE ROBERT'S RULES ARE TO PROVIDE ORDER TO THE MEETING, BUT ALSO TO ALLOW EVERY MEMBER ON THE BOARD TO BE ABLE TO EXPRESS HIS OR HER OPINIONS ON A MATTER.
UH, WE HAVEN'T HAD TOO MANY SITUATIONS WHERE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE GOTTEN INTO ARGUMENTS WITH EACH OTHER, BUT, UH, THE RULES ARE IN PLACE.
THE CHAIR TAKES CONTROL, CALMS THINGS DOWN.
AND AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO YOU MAY NOT SPEAK UNTIL YOU HAVE BEEN ACKNOWLEDGED BY THE CHAIR.
UH, THE RULES OF ORDER AND PROCEDURE, UH, WERE REQUIRED NOT ONLY, UH, THROUGH ROBERT'S RULES, BUT ALSO BY THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC DESIGNATION OF TIME AND LOCATION FOR REGULAR MEETINGS.
WE HAVE TO PROVIDE A BRIEF DESCRIPTION.
WE, UH, AS A BOARD, THE CHAIR HAS THE AUTHORITY TO CALL SPECIAL MEETINGS AS NECESSARY.
UH, IN THE 15 YEARS I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE BOARD, UH, WE'VE ONLY HAD ONE TIME WHERE THE BOARD HAD TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETINGS.
INDEED, THERE'S PROCEDURES FOR, FOR PLACING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
SO WHEN YOU SEE THE AGENDA ITEMS, UH, JUDY NESTOR WILL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF PLACING, UH, THE PROPERTIES BEFORE THE BOARD, AFTER ALL THE DUE PROCESS.
NOTICE REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN FOLLOWED.
AND ON THIS POINT, Y'ALL ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH IT, BUT, UH, IT CAN'T BE OVERSTATED.
UH, THE PUBLIC DOESN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND IT.
AND, UH, UH, SOME PEOPLE WHO SHOULD UNDERSTAND IT DON'T.
BUT AS AMIN HAD MENTIONED IN HIS PRESENTATION, DEMOLITION IS A REMEDY OF LAST RESORT.
YOU ALL KNOW THAT BY THE TIME A PROPERTY REACHES B S C AND IS PRESENTED BEFORE YOU, IT HAS GENERALLY BEEN AFTER A YEAR, A YEAR AND A HALF OF ATTEMPTING TO WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO OBTAIN VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE.
THERE'S A MISPERCEPTION BY MANY.
THAT CODE FINDS THE PROPERTY AND IMMEDIATELY BRINGS IT BEFORE THE BOARD.
AND, UH, UH, EVELYN, UH, YOU'LL, YOU'LL REMEMBER, UM, THAT WAS A MISPERCEPTION BY A PARTICULAR PERSON THAT RESULTED IN CHANGES TO THE CODE, THINKING THAT, UH, CODE IMMEDIATELY BROUGHT PROPERTIES BEFOREHAND AND NOT UNDERSTANDING THE FACT THAT THEY WORK EXTREMELY HARD FOR OVER A YEAR TO GIVE VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE BEFORE Y'ALL EVEN SEE THE PROPERTY BEFORE, BEFORE YOU TO MAKE A DETERMINATION.
B SS B ESSENTIALLY IS A REMEDY OF GLASS RESORT.
UH, WE HAVE METHODS TO COMPEL MEMBERS TO ATTEND MEETINGS, WHICH, UH, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.
'CAUSE THERE'S, UH, UH, CONSEQUENCES IF YOU DO NOT ATTEND MEETINGS.
DESCRIPTION OF DUTIES OF THE OFFICER, UH, PARLIAMENTARY RULES, WHICH ARE ROBERT'S RULES THAT WE UTILIZE AND HOW TO MAKE MOTIONS THE ORDER OF BUSINESS AND WHICH MOTIONS TAKE PRECEDENT.
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OKAY.UH, WHEN, UM, NUMBER WANTS TO BRING A MOTION TO THE TABLE, YOU START OFF WITH, I MOVE THAT.
SO AFTER HEARING FROM THE CODE OFFICER, AFTER HEARING FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER OR REPRESENTATIVE, AFTER HEARING FROM ANY CITIZENS WHO WISH TO BE HEARD, AND THEN AFTER DISCUSSION, AND I, UH, HAVE ALWAYS SAID, AND I WILL CONTINUE TO SAY, I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE DISCUSSION ON EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY, BECAUSE THAT CREATES A RECORD FOR ME TO PRESENT TO COURT SHOULD THEY FILE AN APPEAL AFTER.
UH, SO BEFORE THAT DISCUSSION CAN BE HELD, A MOTION HAS TO BE MADE.
YOU CANNOT START DISCUSSING WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO WITH THE PROPERTY UNTIL A MOTION IS ON THE TABLE.
SO THE MOTION SOMEONE MOVES TO MAKE THE MOTION, AND SPECIFICALLY FOUR, UH, DANGEROUS STRUCTURES.
LET'S SAY YOU'RE ORDERING DEMOLITION, YOU NEED TO STATE, I MOVED THAT THE PROPERTY AT, LET'S USE 1934.
THAT HAS TO BE IN YOUR MOTION, IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE.
NUMBER TWO IS NOT FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED.
AND NUMBER THREE SHOULD BE DEMOLISHED BECAUSE OF, AND THEN YOU LIST THE CODE SECTIONS THAT, UH, YOU AGREE WITH, UH, THAT THE CODE OFFICER PRESENTED, UH, SHOULD BE DEMOLISHED DUE TO DEFICIENCIES.
AND 6, 1 56, 1, 5, 7, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND THAT IT BE DEMOLISHED WITHIN 30 DAYS.
SOMEONE HAS TO SECOND THAT IF NO ONE SECONDS IT, THE MOTION DIES, START ALL OVER AGAIN ONCE IT'S SECONDED.
AND THE PERSON WHO SECONDS, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.
THE SECOND IS JUST NECESSARY TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE MATTER AND GET EVERYBODY'S OPINION OUT.
SO ONCE A SECONDED, THEN, UH, THE DISCUSSION CAN TAKE PLACE.
THE CHAIR MUST STATE THAT, UH, IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT, AND THEN THE CHAIR WILL REPEAT THE MOTION.
AND, UH, BEFORE I GO INTO THE VOTING PART, UH, AND Y'ALL DO THIS, UH, REALLY WELL, UH, YOU DO HAVE THE ABILITY AS A BOARD MEMBER TO MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
AND THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT IS THAT YOU AGREE WITH THE MOTION, BUT YOU WANNA ADD, UH, SOMETHING OR AMEND SOMETHING.
SO I, I MOVED TO MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT RATHER THAN 30 DAYS, WE GIVE THEM 60 DAYS.
IT'S UP TO THE PERSON, THE BOARD MEMBER WHO MADE THE INITIAL MOTION TO SAY YES OR NO.
IF THE PERSON SAYS YES, THEN YOU COULD PROCEED WITH DISCUSSION.
UM, THE, YOU HAVE TO VOTE, UH, UP OR DOWN.
UM, YOU EITHER SAY I OR NAY, THE CHAIR HAS TO ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
SO THAT'S WHY THE CHAIR HAS TO ANNOUNCE THE RESULT OF, UH, IF THE MOTION PASSES, THES HAVE IT.
AND THE CHAIR MUST SAY, HOW MANY? UH, SIX TO FIVE, UH, EIGHT TO, UH, WHATEVER OR SO, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING, UM, WE TEND TO FORGET.
UH, WE'VE HAD THE EYES HAVE IT, THE MOTION PASSES.
UH, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO, UM, PUT DOWN THE NUMBER.
BUT, UH, EVELYN, UH, WITH THE FULL BOARD MEETING, UM, YOU CAN ALWAYS ASK FOR A ROLL CALL, VOTE TO GET THAT NUMBER DOWN.
IF YOU DIDN'T, UH, GET THE NUMBER YOURSELF AND JUDY
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OR ESTHER WILL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE, AND THEN YOU ANNOUNCE THE EFFECT OF THE VOTE.WE'VE HAD SITUATIONS WHERE, UH, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, A MOTION IS MADE, BUT THERE'S NO SECOND.
THE SECOND TIME, IF, UH, SOMEONE MAKES A MOTION, THERE'S NO SECOND.
YOU CAN CONTINUE TO THE THIRD TIME.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, THE PROPERTY, UH, WELL, IF, IF, AFTER THAT, WHAT I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO IS SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION, SOMEONE SECOND, JUST SO IT CAN BE DISCUSSED ON THE VOTING.
IF FOR SOME REASON THERE'S A TIE, THE MOTION
AND SO IT CAN BE BROUGHT UP A SECOND TIME BY A NEW MOTION.
IF THAT RESULTS IN A TIE, THE PROPERTY IS AUTOMATICALLY RESET TO THE NEXT AVAILABLE AGENDA DATE.
I HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, BECAUSE JUDY IS THE ONE WHO, UM, DOES A ROLL CALL.
AND SHE, AFTER THAT, SHE SAYS THE AYES HAVE IT, OR THE NAYYY, OR IT'S THE NAY VOTE.
UH, YOU KNOW, THE MOTION FAILS.
SO DO I HAVE TO REPEAT THAT AFTER HER? YES.
CHANGING YOUR VOTE, UH, ANY MEMBER CAN CHANGE HIS OR HER VOTE ALL WAY UP UNTIL THE CHAIR ANNOUNCES THE RESULT OF THE VOTE.
AFTER THAT, A MEMBER MAY CHANGE THEIR VOTE ONLY BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT FROM THE BOARD.
THIS, UM, I DON'T THINK THIS HAS EVER HAPPENED.
UH, ERIC, UH, HAS IT HAPPENED, UM, TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE ON A CHANGING OF THE VOTE? NO, I, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S HAPPENED.
WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE HAD MOTIONS FAIL AND THEN SOMEBODY MAY MAYBE HAVE CHANGED THEIR MIND AND DONE SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE ANYBODY'S EVER STATED, OH, LET ME, I'M GONNA CHANGE MY VOTE OR DO IT IN THE MIDDLE OF, UM, UH, THE VOTING PROCESS.
THIS IS, UH, JUST FOR ROUTINE BUSINESS.
IT'S NEVER, EVER TO BE USED FOR, UH, MOTIONS MADE REGARDING A PROPERTY BEFORE.
THE UNANIMOUS CONSENT IS FOR, UH, YOU CAN USE IT FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OR TO ADJOURN MEETINGS.
UM, THIS IS GETTING REAL TECHNICAL, SO I'LL JUST LIKE QUICKLY GO OVER IT.
UH, THE ORIGINAL MAIN MOTION IS WHEN A BOARD MEMBER SAYS, I MOVED, THAT THIS PROPERTY IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE, NOT FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED AND TO BE DEMOLISHED DUE TO, UH, SUCH AND SUCH AND SUCH.
OKAY? UH, CAN BE DEBATED, AMENDED, UH, TABLED.
IF THERE IS A PROPERTY Y'ALL ARE DISCUSSING AND THERE JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A CONSENSUS, OR THE BOARD MEMBERS, UH, THERE ARE QUESTIONS THEY FEEL JUST HAVE NOT BEEN ANSWERED.
ANY BOARD MEMBER CAN MOVE TO TABLE THE DISCUSSION.
AND WHEN YOU TABLE THE DISCUSSION, YOU'RE SAYING, UH, WE'RE NOT TAKING A VOTE AT THIS TIME.
AND WE WILL EITHER COME BACK TO IT AT THE END OF THE HEARING, OR A MOTION NEEDS TO BE MADE TO RESET IT FOR THE NEXT AVAILABLE HEARING DATE.
AND, UM, WE DON'T USE, I MOVE TO TABLE VERY OFTEN.
UM, Y'ALL GENERALLY, IF THERE ARE STILL QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED OR DOCUMENTS PRODUCED, UH, Y'ALL DO, UM, THE APPROPRIATE THING, WHICH IS YOU RESET IT.
UH, SO IT'S, IT IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME
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THING.UH, TABLING IS MORE FOR, UM, THOSE ISSUES WHERE IT'S JUST GETTING TOO HEATED OR THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A CONSENSUS AND SOMEONE MOVES TO TABLE IT 'CAUSE THEY NO LONGER WANT TO DISCUSS IT, WHICH IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR A QUASI-JUDICIAL BOARD.
HO UH, THE PERSON MAKING A MOTION MAY CHANGE OR WITHDRAW THE MOTION BEFORE IS SECONDED.
UH, AFTER A SECONDED CAN ONLY BE CHANGED OR WITHDRAWN WITH THE CONSENT OF THE PERSON WHO SECONDED IT.
UM, THIS IS A, A FAVORITE, UH, INCIDENTAL, UH, MOTIONS POINT OF ORDER.
ANY MEMBER, UH, THIS IS THE ONE TIME THAT, UH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED BY THE CHAIR.
IF YOU FEEL SOMEONE IS GOING, ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER IS GOING COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC OR BREAKING THE RULES, YOU JUST A, UH, CHAIR POINT OF ORDER.
IT'S DIRECTED TO THE CHAIR AND THE CHAIR RESOLVES.
WHETHER THERE IS AN ISSUE ABOUT POINT OF ORDER, GENERALLY, IT SHOULD BE LIMITED TO IF ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER IS GOING COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC AND, UH, NOT DEALING WITH THE ISSUE AT HAND.
ANY MOTIONS MADE TO DELAY THE MEETING IS IMPROPER.
THE CHAIR CAN AUTOMATICALLY OVERRULE THOSE.
UH, SAME THING WITH SILLY MOTIONS THAT HAVE NO MERIT.
UH, YOU CANNOT MAKE A MOTION CHALLENGING THE MOTIVE OF ANY OTHER MEMBER, UH, ANY MOTIONS.
THAT CONFLICT WITH ACTIONS JUST TAKEN, UH, ANY MOTIONS THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE AUTHORITY OF THE BOARD.
UH, THAT IS INSTANCES WHERE, UH, Y'ALL WERE ALL PUT ON THE BOARD BECAUSE OF A SET OF EXPERTISE IN A PARTICULAR AREA.
AND, UH, SOMETIMES, UH, DUE TO YOUR PROFESSION, YOU WANT TO KIND OF STEP OUT OF YOUR ZONE AS A BOARD MEMBER AND OFFER PERSONAL ASSISTANCE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER.
WHEN YOU ARE ON THE BOARD, YOU'RE REPRESENTING THE CITY, YOU'RE THERE TO HEAR THE CASE BASED ON THE FACTS.
YOU CAN'T INTERJECT YOURSELF INTO IT.
UM, WE HAD ONE SITUATION WHERE A BOARD MEMBER SAID, WELL, UH, INSTEAD OF COMPLYING WITH THE DEMOLITION ORDER, COME TALK TO ME AND LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT ELSE YOU COULD DO.
EXTREMELY IMPROPER, UH, REPEATED MOTIONS WHEN IT FAILED THE FIRST TIME.
AND MOTIONS THAT ARE REAL, NOT REALLY MOTIONS, BUT A ATTACK ON A FELLOW MEMBER OR JUST TO ARGUE A POINT.
AND THIS IS A CONVOLUTED, UH, FLOW CHART THAT TRIED TO MAKE IT AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE.
AND, UH, THIS IS JUST AN OVERVIEW.
AND SO THAT CONCLUDES THE ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.
BUT TO CIRCLE BACK TO THE MOTIONS, AND IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE, UH, COPY OF, UH, HOW A SPECIFIC MOTION IS TO BE MADE FOR DP CASES AND SAMHSA CASES, UH, I CAN CERTAINLY SEND THAT TO YOU AGAIN, BUT THE MOTION SHOULD BE FOR DP CASES.
I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY AT 1934 LAMAR IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE, IS NOT FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED AND SHOULD BE DEMOLISHED DUE TO, UH, THE FOLLOWING, UH, DEFICIENCIES SIX DASH 1 56 SECTIONS, 1, 2, 5, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18.
AND THAT THE PROPERTY BE DEMOLISHED WITHIN 30 DAYS FOR A SAMHSA CASE.
SIMILAR, I FIND THAT THE PROPERTY IN 1934 LAMAR IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE, AND THAT IT VIOLATES,
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UH, SAMHSA CODE 1 0 8 0.3, AND THAT IT BE ABATED BY REPAIR WITHIN 30 DAYS.SO, UH, Y'ALL LET ME KNOW IF, UH, YOU, YOU WOULD LIKE, UM, THOSE SAMPLE MOTION SENT TO YOU.
UM, AND I CAN CERTAINLY SEND THAT OUT BY TOMORROW TO JUDY TO SEND OUT TO ALL OF YOU.
UH, YEAH, I GOT SEVERAL OF THEM ON YOUR BUILDING STANDARDS, BOARD MOTIONS, UH, PIECE THAT YOU GIVE US.
IT SAYS, UH, AND WE'LL GO TO THE, UH, S A P M C.
IT SAYS, FOR NUMBER ONE, DECLARE THE MAIN.
SO SHOULD IT BE I DECLARE? UH, YES.
I MEAN, YEAH, I, IT, IT'S, UH, I MOVE, UM, I DON'T LIKE THE PHRASE DECLARE, BUT UH, I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY, YEAH.
SEE, THIS IS ALREADY SET UP FROM THE BOARD WHEN WE GET IT.
THIS IS PART OF THE, THE, THE SCRIPT FROM THE BUILDING CENTER BOARD.
AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS I FIND THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DEMO SIDE, IT SAYS, I MOVED AT THE PROPERTY, WHICH THOSE ARE CORRECT.
SO IF WE'RE GONNA GO TO THE I PART, THEN ALL OF THESE SHOULD BE CHANGED TO I ORDER.
WOULD THAT BE FOR A REPAIR? UH, YES.
I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE.
UH, I FIND THAT, UH, EVERY MOTION TO START WITH I MOVE.
OKAY, WELL, ON THE DEMO SIDE IT DOES SAY I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY, BUT ON THE REPAIR SIDE OR ON THE S A P MC SIDE, IT SAYS, EXAMPLE NUMBER ONE SAYS DECLARE THE MAIN STRUCTURE.
SO IN ROBERT'S RULES, IT SHOULD BE, I DECLARE THE MAIN STRUCTURE, CORRECT? YEAH, IT SHOULD BE, I MOVE TO DECLARE, OKAY.
FOR REFERENCE, WE'LL HAVE TO BE UPDATED.
BUT FRED, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE SMT MOTION SCRIPT, IT HAS AT THE VERY TOP OF THAT SCRIPT, I MOVED AT THE BOARD FINE, OR I MOVED AT THE BOARD REPAIR, UH, ET CETERA.
SO THE I MOVE IS ACTUALLY AT THE VERY TOP OF THAT SCRIPT, BUT IT'S NOT IN FRONT LIKE THE OTHERS ARE.
THERE'S A, THERE, IT SAYS I MOVE AT THE BOARD, BUT THEN IT GIVES THE DECLARE.
SO SHOULD THAT BE REWRITTEN OR SHOULD WE JUST ASSUME THAT YOU'RE GONNA START OUT WITH I MOVE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SPECIFY THAT ON THE SHEET.
AND WE'RE READING IT PER SCRIPT.
THEN WE, I, UH, AS IT SAYS IN NUMBER ONE, DECLARE THE MAIN PROPERTY, THEN IT SHOULD BE I MOVE THE BOARD DECLARE INSTEAD OF I MOVE, IT SHOULD BE I MOVE TO DECLARE IT.
UM, JUDY, IF YOU WOULD SEND ME THOSE SCRIPTS, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.
IF, UH, JUDY, IF YOU SEND ME THOSE SCRIPTS, I'LL, UH, REVISE 'EM TO MAKE THEM UNIFORM.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY AT THE TIME WHEN THEY WERE WRITTEN, UH, I WROTE THE ONES FOR THE DQ CASES AND, UM, THE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING OFFICER, UM, BEFORE HE BECAME THE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING OFFICER, HE WROTE THE SAMSON ONES.
SO, UH, UH, I'LL, I'LL REVISE ALSO THEIR UNIFORM.
BUT, UM, YOU'RE RIGHT, IT, IT SHOULD BE, UH, UNIFORM, RIGHT? BECAUSE ON THE S A P C M, IT, YOU CAN'T MOTION FOR THE BOARD AS IT STATES.
HERE, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD, YOU CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE MAKING THE MOTION.
SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE AN INDIVIDUAL MOTION.
THE BOARD MOTION COMES AFTER EVERYBODY VOTES.
UH, YEAH, I COULD, I, I COULD SEE THAT.
I'M NOT TRYING TO BE TECHNICAL, BUT WOULDN'T THAT AFTER, AFTER THE BOARD RULES ON IT, IT BECOMES AN ORDER PRIOR TO THAT, IT'S A MOTION.
SO YOU WOULD MOTION, YOU WOULD MOTION FOR THIS TO HAPPEN.
YOU DON'T WANT TO ORDER FOR THAT IF YOU'RE READING THE, IF YOU AND I UNDERSTAND, BUT IF YOU'RE READING THE STATEMENT, IT SAYS, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD AND YOU'RE NOT MOVING THAT THE BOARD DOES IT, YOU'RE MOVING THAT YOU'RE PUTTING THE MOTION FORWARD.
SO IT WOULD READ, I MOVED BACK OR I MOVED TO DECLARE THE MAIN OR ACCESSORY BUILDING LOCATED
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AT, IT'S NOT THE BOARD MOVING THAT UNTIL THE VOTE IS FINAL.UM, WHEN, WHEN YOU SAY THAT I, I MOVED THAT THE BOARD, UH, UH, THAT'S FINE BECAUSE YOU'RE REQUESTING YOUR FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS TO, UH, ACCEPT YOUR MOTION AND SO YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD.
'CAUSE YOU'RE STILL SAYING, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD FINE.
BUT, UH, JUDY, CAN YOU SCROLL UP TO THE SAMHSA MOTIONS? YEAH, IT'S, UH, IT'S TYPICALLY SAYING THE SAME THING, BUT, UM, THAT I'LL CLEAN IT UP SO THAT IT'S, UM, IT'S CONSISTENT.
AND ANOTHER QUESTION WAS ON THE SUPREME COURT'S RULING.
DOES THAT MEAN THAT ALL THE CASES THAT WE'VE DONE RIGHT NOW FOR DEMOLITION HAVE BEEN PUT ON HOLD AND THEY'RE, SOME OF 'EM HAVE BEEN GETTING A FEW EXTRA MONTHS IN THE 30 DAYS, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND, UH, ANY ORDERS THAT WERE ISSUED AFTER, UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS APRIL 6TH, 2020, BUT WHAT THE COURT HAD DONE, THE, UH, SUPREME COURT HAD SUSPENDED ALL APPELLATE DEADLINES.
AND SO, UH, THEY KEPT EXTENDING IT.
SO THE DEADLINE ENDS JUNE 1ST OF THIS YEAR.
AND SO ANYBODY WHO WAS ORDERED TO DEMOLISH A PROPERTY AFTER APRIL, LET'S SAY 6 20 20, THEY HAVE UNTIL JUNE 1ST, UM, TO APPEAL.
AND THEN ONLY AFTER JUNE 1ST, UH, CAN, UM, CODE PROCEED FORWARD WITH, UH, THE PROCESS FOR DEMOLISHING.
AND, UH, THE ORDER EXPIRES JUNE 1ST.
UM, WE'RE EXPECTING A NEW ORDER FROM THE SUPREME COURT, UM, DUE TO THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER THAT WAS ISSUED, UH, A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO.
AND SO I EXPECT THAT TO COME OUT, UH, SOMETIME EARLY NEXT WEEK.
I DON'T FORESEE THEM EXTENDING THE APPELLATE DEADLINES ANYMORE, BUT, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL JUST SEE HOW THEY CHOOSE TO, UH, APPROACH IT.
UH, THE COURTHOUSES ARE OPENING UP JUNE 1ST IS THE TARGET DATE.
UH, SOME HAVE STARTED ALLOWING, UH, TRIALS AND SO, UH, THAT'S WHY I DON'T THINK THE APPELLATE DEADLINES WILL BE EXTENDED OUT.
SO, UH, CODE WILL BE EXTREMELY BUSY WITH THE DEMOLITIONS IN THE COMING MONTHS.
SO EVEN IF WE ORDERED, UM, LET'S SAY TODAY A DEMO, THERE'S GONNA BE SEVERAL MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD BEFORE IT EVEN BECOMES, BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY GOT, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ON THE AGENDA RIGHT NOW.
YEAH, THAT'S A, UM, THAT'S PROBABLY A, A CODE QUESTION, UM, AS FAR AS TIMELINE, BUT I'M SURE WHAT THEY'LL DO IS, UH, PRIORITIZE BY, UH, THE, UH, THE NATURE OF THE DETERIORATION.
LET ME ASK SAVITA A QUESTION ACTUALLY.
UH, A FEW TIMES I HAVE PROCEEDED A MOTION BY OPINIONS BASED ON
SHOULD I REFRAIN FROM DOING THAT UNTIL YOU GET INTO THE DISCUSSION PHASE AND SIMPLY MAKE THE MOTION, UH, NO.
THE, THE MOTION, UH, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE MOTIONS ALREADY BEEN MADE AND THEN YOU WANNA CHANGE IT? NO, MA'AM.
UH, IN THE LAST MEETING, I, I TALKED ABOUT A STRUCTURE IN TERMS OF ITS ENGINEERING COMPONENTS.
UH, BEFORE I EVEN MADE THE MOTION, THE EXAMPLE WAS THE WALLS ARE SUCH AND SUCH NOT MADE TO PRESENT.
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GUIDANCE, NOT MADE TO PRESENT CONSTRUCTION DESIGN.UH, THE ROOFING HAS SUCH AND SUCH OF A WEAKNESS OR A FAILURE.
UH, THE FLOORING IS NON EXISTENT.
FOUNDATION CANNOT BE, OR YOU CAN'T UPRIGHT A STRUCTURE UNTIL A PROPER FOUNDATION'S PUT IN PLACE AS A RESULT OF THAT.
YEAH, IT SHOULD BE THE REVERSE.
UH, YOU NEED TO MOVE AND THEN BRING UP, YES.
BRING UP YOUR POINTS AND DISCUSSION.
LET'S MOVE INTO, UM, I HAVE A QUICK QUES, UH, REQUEST.
YOU CAN EMAIL ME A, A FRESH, UPDATED, UH, VERSION OF THE, OF THE SCRIPT IF YOU'D LIKE TO MY EMAIL.
UM, AFTER, WHAT I'LL DO IS, UH, UH, I'LL UPDATE THE SCRIPTS AND SEND THEM TO JUDY, AND JUDY WILL SEND THEM TO THE BOARD.
THIS IS, UH, JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW.
UH, ONE OF Y'ALL HAD ASKED FOR A REFRESHER JUST ON BOARD DUTIES, AND SO I'M GONNA QUICKLY GO OVER THIS.
UM, IN THIS DISCUSSION, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT BOARD MEETING PROTOCOL, UH, THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
UH, BECAUSE YOU'RE A QUASI-JUDICIAL BODY FOR A GOVERNMENT ENTITY, YOU ARE SUBJECT TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, AND WE'LL DISCUSS, UM, THE REQUIREMENTS OF THAT, WHICH, UH, WE ALREADY FOLLOW.
BUT IT'LL BE JUST A REFRESHER AND AN EXPLANATION AS TO WHY, UH, WE DO THE THINGS WE DO.
UH, ALSO BECAUSE OF THE SAME REASON THAT YOU'RE A BOARD FOR A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY, YOU'RE SUBJECT TO THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT.
AND THEN A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE CODE OF ETHICS.
UH, YOU KNOW, THE CONDUCT OF MEETINGS, UH, THE CHAIR CALLS THE MEETING TO ORDER, UH, SECRETARY CALLS, THE ROLE, MINUTES MUST BE APPROVED.
UH, THAT'S THE FIRST ACTION TO BE TAKEN.
THEN YOU MOVE ON TO THE AGENDA.
UH, ANY COMMITTEE BRIEFINGS, CITIZENS TO BE HEARD, DISCUSSION OF ITEMS PRESENTED BY MEMBERS AND THE MEETING TO BE ADJOURNED.
UH, NEXT ONE, UH, BOARD AND COMMISSION MEETINGS.
OBVIOUSLY, THE BIGGEST, UH, ISSUE, I MEAN, CONCERN, UH, FOR THESE MEETINGS IS THAT EVERYBODY BE TREATED WITH RESPECT.
UH, RESPECTING DIFFERENCES OF OPINIONS, UH, DO NOT INTERROGATE.
UH, THAT'S, UH, IN TERMS OF, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE GOING TO QUESTION THOSE, UH, STANDING BEFORE YOU.
BUT, UH, THERE'S A JUSTIFYING LINE BETWEEN QUESTIONING AND INTERROGATING.
INTERROGATING OBVIOUSLY, IS WHEN YOU START GETTING ANTAGONISTIC TOWARDS A PERSON BEFORE YOU.
AND SO, UH, OBVIOUSLY, AND, AND Y'ALL DON'T DO THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, TO REFRAIN FROM THAT.
UM, ON THE BOARD, AND WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS EARLIER, UH, YOU'RE ALL CHOSEN FOR, UH, THE VARIOUS, UH, PROFESSIONS THAT YOU REPRESENT.
SO YOU BRING YOUR UNIQUE SKILLS TO THE BOARD.
HOWEVER, ONCE YOU'RE ON THE BOARD, YOU REPRESENTING THE CITY, UH, YOU'RE NOT, UH, THERE TO BE THE CITIZEN'S ADVOCATE.
UH, YOU ARE THERE TO LISTEN TO ALL THE FACTS, HAVE A REASON, DISCUSSION, AND TO MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THE FACTS, NOT WHAT YOUR, UH, PERSONAL BELIEFS ARE.
AND, OH, I THINK I NEED TO HELP THIS CITIZEN.
OR, UH, SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT.
UH, WE ALREADY DISCUSSED MOTIONS.
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TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, WHICH MEANS IN TEXAS, ANY DETRIMENTAL BODY, UH, THE PUBLIC HAS THE RIGHT TO BE AT THE MEETING.UH, OPEN MEETING MEANS EXACTLY THAT.
ANYBODY CAN ATTEND A MEETING, AND IF THEY WISH TO BE HEARD, THEY CAN BE HEARD.
UH, THEIR TIME IS NOT UNLIMITED.
HOWEVER, UH, THEY'RE LIMITED TO THE THREE MINUTES FOR CITIZENS, NOT PROPERTY OWNERS.
WHAT A MEETING, UH, BY LAW IS ANY DELIBERATION BETWEEN A QUO OF MEMBERS, MEMBERS AT WHICH ANY PUBLIC BUSINESS IS DISCUSSED OR CONSIDERED, OR AT WHICH ANY FORMAL ACTION IS TAKEN.
THIS, UH, OUR OUR MEETING TODAY, TECHNICALLY IS, UH, WOULD NOT FALL UNDER, UH, THE LEGAL DEFINITION OF A MEETING BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DELIBERATING, THE BOARD IS NOT DELIBERATING AND MAKING ANY DECISIONS AT THIS POINT UNTIL WE GET TO POLICIES.
AND IF THE BOARD CHOOSES TO CHANGE POLICIES, BUT YOU'RE NOT, UH, VOTING ON ANY PROPERTIES OTHER THAN, UH, LIKE THIS WHOLE, UM, PRESENTATION AND STAFF PRESENTATIONS, A DELIBERATION OR A MEETING, HOWEVER, YOUR VOTE TO, UH, OR NOT YOUR VOTE, BUT TO ACCEPT THE EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS, THAT'S A BOARD ACTION.
BUT DELIBERATION IS A VERBAL EXCHANGE DURING A MEETING BETWEEN A FORUM OF A BODY OR BETWEEN FORUM AND ANOTHER PERSON SUCH AS, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS OR ANY PUBLIC BUSINESS.
UH, MEETINGS, UH, FUNCTIONS, CONVENTIONS AND WORKSHOPS.
BUT, AND THEN, THIS IS A BIG, BUT INFORMAL AND SOCIAL MEETINGS.
IF, IF Y'ALL ARE ALL FIND YOURSELVES AT, UH, LET'S SAY A HAPPY HOUR, AND THERE HAPPENS TO BE A QUORUM OF THE BOARD PRESENT AT THAT HAPPY HOUR, IF YOU START DISCUSSING BUSINESS OF THE BOARD, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'VE TURNED IT INTO A PUBLIC MEETING.
SO THIS IS, UH, UM, UNFORTUNATELY, ALL THESE, UH, RULES AND EXAMPLES I'M PRESENTING TO YOU ARE INSTANCES WHERE, UH, THE SAN ANTONIO CITY COUNCIL VIOLATED THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
IF YOU READ THE OPEN MEETINGS HANDBOOK, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS LISTED ON ALMOST EVERY PAGE,
AND, UH, UH, SO WHAT WAS HAPPENING WAS, UM, A FEW YEARS AGO, 20, I THINK 20 YEARS AGO, UH, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD BE AT A FUNCTION, A QUORUM WOULD BE PRESENT.
AND THEN THEY STARTED TALKING, UH, CITY BUSINESS AND MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT CITY BUSINESS.
LAWSUITS WERE FILED, THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT HELD, EVEN IN A SOCIAL SETTING, IF A QUORUM AND A QUORUM IS THE KEY, IF A QUORUM IS PRESENT AND YOU START TALKING ABOUT CITY BUSINESS, IT'S AN OPEN MEETING THAT IS SUBJECT TO DISCLOSURE.
WALKING FORUMS. UH, WE INVENTED THIS.
THIS IS, UH, THIS WAS AN ATTEMPT.
THERE WAS A HOT ISSUE GOING ON.
AND, UM, WE INVENTED THE WALKING QUORUM WHERE THE, UH, QUORUM, UH, WE WERE TRYING TO AVOID THE PRE, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, ABOUT FALLING INTO A QUORUM AT AN UNOFFICIAL GATHERING THAT HAD, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT.
AND SO WHAT THEY DID WAS TO AVOID HAVING A QUORUM, ONE PERSON WOULD WALK OUT AND THE NEXT COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD WALK IN.
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ANY GIVEN POINT, THERE WASN'T A QUORUM.AND, UH, SO THEY SAID THEY WEREN'T SUBJECT TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
HOWEVER, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL SAID, UH, NO, THAT IS WHAT WE CALL A WALKING QUORUM.
AND IT'S A ATTEMPT TO AVOID THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
SECOND OPINION CAME OUT OF, WE ALSO TRIED THIS, INSTEAD OF MEETING IN PERSON, UH, THE BOARD MEMBERS WERE SENDING EMAILS TO EACH OTHER, AND THEY WERE TALKING CITY BUSINESS.
AND, UH, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL SAID, NOPE, THAT'S CONSIDERED A WALKING FORUM.
SO THAT'S WHY, UM, Y'ALL ARE TOLD FROM THE GET GO THAT, UH, YOU ARE NOT TO COMMUNICATE AS A BOARD AND HAVE A BOARD EMAIL THREAD, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED AN OPEN MEETING.
AND THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO DISCLOSURE.
AND I REMEMBER THIS IS LIMITED TO, UH, TALKING ABOUT CITY BUSINESS OR YOUR DUTIES ON THE BOARD.
IF IT'S JUST SOCIAL MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAVE A GOOD HOLIDAY, GREAT YEAR, UH, THAT'S FINE.
BUT, UH, TO BE ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE, THAT'S WHY I'VE ALWAYS ADVISED THAT, UH, Y'ALL NOT COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER AS A GROUP.
UH, YOU COULD COMMUNICATE THROUGH JUDY AND JUDY CAN, UM, PROVIDE INFORMATION TO OTHER BOARD MEMBERS.
BUT, UH, I, I DON'T WANT, UH, Y'ALL DOING A WALKING FORUM ON EMAIL.
THE PUBLIC, UH, OPEN MEETINGS ACT REQUIRES THAT EVERY VOTE YOU TAKE HAS TO BE IN PUBLIC.
SO LET'S SAY WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, THAT IS THE ONE TIME THE PUBLIC HAS NO RIGHT TO BE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, BECAUSE EXECUTIVE SESSION IS FOR YOU TO CONFER WITH YOUR LEGAL COUNSEL ABOUT AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT MATTER OR LITIGATION.
SO THE PUBLIC IS NOT ALLOWED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WHAT CANNOT HAPPEN IN EXECUTIVE SESSION IS THAT Y'ALL TAKE A VOTE.
DURING EXECUTIVE SESSION, YOU CAN DISCUSS A MATTER, BUT THEN WHEN YOU GO BACK OUT INTO THE PUBLIC MEETING, YOU DISCUSS IT, WHAT WAS DISCUSSED, NOT WHAT WAS DISCUSSED WITH YOUR LAWYERS, BUT YOU BRING UP THE POINTS YOU BROUGHT UP.
AND THEN THE VOTE HAS TO BE IN PUBLIC.
NOW, WE HAVE, UH, THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT, UH, THE PUBLIC HAS THE RIGHT TO SPEAK, BUT AS THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, WE HAVE DECIDED THAT, UM, THE BOARDS SHOULD GRANT CITIZENS THE RIGHT TO, UH, SPEAK DURING CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.
AND, UH, HOWEVER, WE CAN LIMIT, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, UH, THE TIME THAT THEY CAN SPEAK.
SECONDED SESSIONS, AS I MENTIONED, ARE CLOSED, AND IT'S ONLY BOARD MEMBERS AND LEGAL COUNSEL.
UH, THE QUORUM IN OPEN SESSION MUST, SO THERE HAS TO BE A QUORUM IN OPEN SESSION BEFORE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION CAN BE CALLED.
UH, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW WHAT EXECUTIVE SESSIONS ARE FOR.
AND THEN, AS I SAID, THE VOTE, VOTE MUST OCCUR IN OPEN SESSION.
UH, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, CANNOT VOTE ON ANYTHING IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UH, A STRAW VOTE IS WHERE WE'RE ALL IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TALKING ABOUT A PROPERTY AND LEGAL QUESTIONS RELATED TO IT.
AND THEN Y'ALL DECIDE, OKAY, WELL, WHO'S GONNA BE VOTING THIS WAY? WHO'S GONNA BE VOTING THAT WAY? CAN'T DO THAT.
BUT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, YOU CAN CERTAINLY INDICATE HOW YOUR, UH, YOUR OPINIONS
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AND WHICH WAY YOU'RE LEANING.AND, UH, THERE'S A AND WE'LL CUT YOU OFF.
ERIC WILL CUT YOU OFF IF, UH, IT'S, IT'S HEADING TOWARDS AS IF YOU'RE VOTING FOR A PROPERTY, BUT YOU CAN CERTAINLY EXPRESS YOUR OPINIONS AS TO IT.
AND, UH, UNFORTUNATELY I CAN'T, THERE'S LOTS OF EXAMPLES.
I CAN'T GIVE THOSE TO YOU 'CAUSE WE'RE AN OPEN SESSION.
BUT, UM, NEXT TIME WE HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION, I COULD GIVE YOU EXAMPLES.
SECOND THING YOU'RE SUBJECT TO IS THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT.
AS A GOVERNMENT BODY, ALL OUR INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
IF THE PUBLIC ASKS FOR A TRANSCRIPT OF THE HEARING, THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO OBTAIN IT.
IF WE HAVE A TRANSCRIPT, THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO REQUEST ALL THE DOCUMENTS Y'ALL HAVE BEFORE YOU AND DECIDE IN MAKING A DECISION.
AND IT'S, UH, INFORMATION, UH, IS IN CONNECTION WITH THE TRANSACTION OF OFFICIAL BUSINESS IF IT WAS CREATED BY TRANSMITTED TO RECEIVED BY, OR MAINTAINED BY AN OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE OF THE GOVERNMENT BODY IN THEIR OFFICIAL CAPACITY OR PERFORMING OFFICIAL BUSINESS ON BEHALF OF THE BODY.
AND SO, LIKE I SAID, THAT WOULD BE YOUR NOTEBOOKS, UH, THAT WOULD BE THE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE PRESENTED TO YOU ALL THAT IF A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC SUBMITS AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST, THEY ARE ENTITLED TO THAT.
UH, WHAT THEY ARE NOT ENTITLED TO, AND THIS WAS, UH, BROUGHT UP A FEW MONTHS AGO, IS, UH, SOME OF YOU, UH, WRITE NOTES AS, UH, YOU ARE LISTENING TO THE, UM, PRESENTATIONS.
UH, YOUR NOTES ARE NOT SUBJECT TO OPEN RECORDS BECAUSE AGAIN, AS JUDGES, UH, THOSE ARE, UH, YOUR PERSONAL OPINIONS AND THOUGHTS, AND THEY ARE NOT AN OPEN RECORD.
UH, WE HAVE HAD ATTEMPTS WHERE, UH, PEOPLE IN, IN LITIGATION WHERE THEY'VE ASKED FOR, UH, EVERY BOARD MEMBER'S NOTES TAKEN DURING A PARTICULAR HEARING, UH, IT WAS RULED THAT, UH, YOUR NOTES ARE PRIVILEGED AND WE CAN DEFEND THOSE.
DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE BOARDS.
UH, AS I SAID, B S B IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL BOARD, MEANING THAT Y'ALL ARE THE JUDGES, YOU'RE THE FINAL ARBITER AS TO WHETHER A STRUCTURE IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE OR NOT.
BY LAW, THE ONLY PERSON WHO COULD REVERSE YOUR DECISION IS A DISTRICT COURT JUDGE.
ADVISORY BOARDS, ON THE OTHER HAND, DON'T HAVE THAT AUTHORITY.
ADVISORY BOARDS ARE ONES THAT THEY CAN TAKE AN ACTION, BUT IT HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR FINAL APPROVAL.
SO WHEN Y'ALL GET PRESENTATIONS FROM THEM, OR THEY'RE, UM, DOCUMENTS STATING THEY DO NOT APPROVE THE DEMOLITION OF A HISTORIC STRUCTURE, PURELY ADVISORY, YOU COULD TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT, YOU CAN CONSIDER IT, BUT YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO DO WHAT THE H D R C SAYS YOU MUST DO.
THEY ARE MERELY ADVISORY, AND IT'S A COURTESY THAT IS GIVEN TO H D R C TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE INPUT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
UH, OTHER QUASI-JUDICIAL BODIES ARE THE ZONING, UH, BOARD, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THE, UM, BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
UH, THE BOARD THAT'S MOST SIMILAR TO Y'ALL IS THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
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'CAUSE BY STATUTE, THEY'RE ALSO, UH, ONLY, UH, DISTRICT COURT JUDGE CAN REVERSE A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT DECISION.THAT'S THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.
UM, THAT WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION, QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
OH, ONE THING I WILL, UH, THROW IN THERE IS, UM, BECAUSE YOU ARE A QUASI-JUDICIAL BODY, UH, IT'S NOT PART OF THE PRESENTATION, BUT I JUST WANNA THROW THIS IN THERE.
UM, IMMUNITY, BECAUSE YOU'RE QUASI-JUDICIAL BODY, Y'ALL ARE JUDGES, JUDGES ENJOY ABSOLUTE IMMUNITY AS JUDGES.
THE B S B, YOU ALSO HAVE IMMUNITY, WHICH MEANS THAT NONE OF YOU CAN BE SUED IN ANY LITIGATION.
SO WHEN A PROPERTY OWNER APPEALS YOUR DECISION, THE LAWSUIT IS AGAINST THE CITY, NOT AGAINST THE BOARD MEMBERS.
IF FOR SOME REASON Y'ALL ARE NAMED, UH, IT HAPPENED JUST ONE TIME, IF Y'ALL ARE NAMED AND, UM, AS DEFENDANTS, UH, WE QUICKLY GET YOU DISMISSED.
AND BECAUSE YOU ENJOY ABSOLUTE IMMUNITY, ALSO, YOUR PERSONAL NOTES, LIKE I SAID, ARE NOT SUBJECT TO RELEASE.
NOR CAN, UH, ANY LAWYER CALL YOU IN TO BE DEPOSED OR SERVE AS A WITNESS OR ISSUE SUBPOENAS TO YOU.
YOU ARE JUDGES, JUDGES ARE NOT REQUIRED TO TAKE THE STAND.
SO SUBPOENAS, UH, THAT HAPPENED IN ONE LAWSUIT, UH, ALL OF YOU GOT SUBPOENAS TO COME TESTIFY THAT WAS EASILY HANDLED.
NOW, WITH ABSOLUTE IMMUNITY, DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU CAN VIOLATE DUE PROCESS.
SO IF THERE'S AN INCIDENT, UM, WHERE WHAT THE, UH, PLAINTIFF HAS TO SHOW IS THAT THE BOARD ACTED ARBITRARILY, CAPRICIOUSLY OR EGREGIOUSLY, WHICH BASICALLY MEANS THAT THERE WERE HUMANE STATEMENTS THAT WERE SO OUT OF THE NORM AS TO OFFEND NORMAL SENSIBILITIES, WHICH IS, LET'S SAY YOU MAKE A RACIST COMMENT TO COMMENT TO, UH, A PROPERTY OWNER, OR YOU SAY, NO, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU.
THOSE WILL BE BLATANT VIOLATIONS.
YOU'RE STILL IMMUNE FROM LAWSUIT.
BUT THOSE WOULD BE BASIS FOR THE JUDGE TO OVERTURN THE DECISION.
UH, QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? OKAY.
I'M JUST GONNA QUICKLY, UH, TALK ABOUT TRANSFER ON DEATH.
EVELYN, I BELIEVE YOU HAD THE QUESTION ON THIS.
YES, I, UH, I WAS ON A PHONE CALL ABOUT TWO, TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO WITH A COUPLE OF LAWYERS FROM, UM, THE COLLEGES AROUND TOWN, AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT WILLS AND, YOU KNOW, MOSTLY, UH, PEOPLE DON'T HAVE WILLS.
AND, UH, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, UH, TODD AND, UH, TODD WILL SUPERSEDE A WILL, I GUESS IF IT GOES TO COURT SOMEWHERE.
SO I JUST WANTED EVERYBODY TO BE ABREAST OF WHAT, UH, THE TRANSFER ON DEATH MEANS.
AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE A WILL, YOU SHOULD GET ONE REALLY, AND TELL ALL YOUR, YOUR PEOPLE TO GET ONE
AND, UH, SAD TO SAY, AS A LAWYER, I DON'T HAVE A WILL
BUT, UH, TRANSFER ON DEATH AS A PRINCIPAL, UH, WE DO NOT RECOGNIZE TRANSFER ON DEATH WITHOUT ADDITIONAL ACTION BEING TAKEN.
SO EITHER THERE MUST BE A WILL TRANSFERRING THE PROPERTY TO, UH, SOMEONE, OR IF SOMEONE DIES AND TESTS SAFE, WHICH MEANS THEY DID NOT HAVE A WILL, IT DOES, UH, IT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR, SAY, YOUR MOTHER DIED, AND YOU CAN NOW SAY YOU ARE THE OWNER OF THE HOUSE.
YOU, UH, YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO POSSESSION OF THE HOUSE AS AN HEIR, BUT
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YOU STILL HAVE TO FILE PAPERWORK.YOU HAVE TO GET THE DEEDED TRANSFERRED TO YOUR NAME.
THE DEATH OF THE OWNER DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY TRANSFER THE DEED.
AND SO, UH, IF YOU DIE WITHOUT A WILL, THEN THE PERSON NEEDS TO EITHER FILE AN AFFIDAVIT OF AIRSHIP OR DO WHAT'S CALLED AN UNION OF TITLE IN TEXAS, UH, WHICH ALLOWS IS A SIMPLE DOCUMENT YOU FILE WITH THE PROBATE COURT.
IF THE REAL ESTATE IS THE ONLY PART OF THE, UH, DECEASED ESTATE, AND, UH, THAT TRANSFERS OWNERSHIP.
SO ON A TRANSFER ON THE, IT'S, YOU CAN HAVE POSSESSION OF THE PROPERTY.
YOU HAVE CONTROL OVER THE PROPERTY, BUT YOU, YOU ARE NOT THE RECORD OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
YOU ARE NOT THE RECORD OWNER UNTIL YOU HAVE YOUR NAME PUT ON THE DEED.
UH, THERE'S, WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO COME BEFORE THE BOARD, OBVIOUSLY, THAT, UH, THEY'RE THE HEIR, THE OWNER IS DECEASED, BUT THEY'RE STILL GOING TO NEED TO, UH, FILE THE DOCUMENTS TO MAKE THEM THE RECORD OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT IS IF, LET'S SAY THE SON FILES AN APPEAL OF A DEMOLITION ORDER BY LAW UNDER THE STATUTE, ONLY THE RECORD OWNER OF A PROPERTY MAY FILE AN APPEAL.
AND SO IF THE SON HAS TAKEN NO ACTION TO, UH, RECORD HIS OWNERSHIP, THEN WE GET THAT LAWSUIT DISMISSED BECAUSE, UH, HE'S NOT A RECORD OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
AND SO THAT'S, UH, TO CIRCLE BACK, UH, TRANSFER ON THAT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE THE MEANING THAT IT SEEMS TO HAVE, THERE IS NO AUTOMATIC TRANSFER OF PROPERTY.
YOU HAVE TO TAKE STEPS TO, UM, RECORD A DEEDED UNDER YOUR NAME.
SAVITA, LET ME JUMP ON, UM, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.
BUT ONE QUESTION THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE HELPFUL TO ANSWER IS IF, UM, PROPERTY IS OWNED BY A DECEASED PARENT, CHILD IS COMING IN, HE'S BEEN LIVING IN, IT, PROVIDES SCOPE OF WORK, PROOF OF FINANCIAL MEANS, AND WANTS TO FIX UP THAT PROPERTY, HOW SHOULD THE BOARD ADDRESS THAT ARE IS THE, MY THOUGHT WOULD BE THE BOARD DOESN'T NEED TO SIT THERE AND CONFIRM OR MAKE SURE HE CAN, HE IS FILED CERTAIN PAPERS OR DOCUMENTS SO HE CAN PROVE THAT HE OWNS THE PROPERTY.
THE BOARD CAN, IF THEY CHOOSE, ACCEPT THE, UH, THE DOCUMENTATION THAT HE'S PROVIDING IN REGARDS TO, UM, A SCOPE OF WORK AND, AND FINANCIAL MEANS.
AND THE BOARD CAN MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER THAT PROPERTY IS REPAIRABLE BASED ON THAT INFORMATION AND NOT HAVE HIM, OR NOT REQUIRE HIM TO PROVIDE PROOF THAT HE IS THE RECORD TITLED OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, THAT, THAT IS NOT THE BOARD'S JOB TO DETERMINE THE VERACITY OF OWNERSHIP, UH, THAT'S ON LEGAL.
SO WHEN IT COMES TO, IF THEY FILE AN APPEAL AT THAT POINT, THEN WE WOULD GO ARGUE THAT ISSUE, UH, REQUIRE THAT, UM, LET'S SAY THE SON, UH, REQUIRE THAT HE FILE AN AFFIDAVIT OF AIRSHIP AT THAT POINT.
BUT FOR THE BOARD, UH, IT'S NOT YOUR JOB TO, UH, QUESTION, UH, QUESTION, UH, OKAY, SHOW ME THE DEED THAT HAS YOUR NAME ON IT.
OH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
WHEN SOMEONE COMES FORWARD, THEY'RE TAKING RESPONSIBILITY, THEN, UH, YOU ACCEPT IT AT FACE VALUE, AND THEN WE DEAL WITH IT, UH, ON THE LEGAL END AFTER THE FACT.
NOW WITH, UH, INSTANCES WHERE SOMEONE COMES FORWARD AND OR A POTENTIAL BUYER COMES FORWARD, THAT'S A DIFFERENT MATTER ALTOGETHER.
IF THEY'RE NOT IN ANY WAY RELATED TO THE
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RECORDED OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, THEN YES, YOU HAVE AN ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO ASK FOR, UH, WHERE IS, UH, THE DOCUMENTATION FOR THE TITLE OF THE PROPERTY.WE WANNA SEE IF IT'S LEGITIMATE.
UH, AT THAT POINT YOU CAN QUESTION THAT AND THEN THROW IT TO LEGAL.
AND WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT, IS THIS THE ONLY ERROR? ARE THERE OTHER ERRORS INVOLVED THAT, UM, THE SALE, UH, CANNOT BE LEGAL WITHOUT ALL THE ERRORS BEING INVOLVED IN TRANSFERRING THE PROPERTY? YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SEVERAL, WE HAVE DEALT WITH SEVERAL CASES, UM, WHERE PEOPLE WILL COME IN, UH, ABOUT A, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY HAS DIED IN THE FAMILY AND THE HOUSE WAS IN THEIR NAME AND THEY WANT TO SELL THE PROPERTY.
BUT ALL OF THE, WHEN WE ASK QUESTIONS, WE FIND OUT THAT THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, 10 SISTERS AND BROTHERS, OR SIX SISTERS AND BROTHERS, WHATEVER THE CASE MIGHT BE.
AND THE, UM, THE, THE NEW, WELL, NOT THE NEW OWNER, BUT THE, THE, UH, BROTHER WILL COME IN OR THE SISTER WILL COME IN AND SAY THAT THEY ARE THE LEGITIMATE HEIR AND THEY HAVE A, A, A CONTRACT WITH A, A REALTOR OR A, A BROKER OR WHATEVER.
AND, UH, THEY WANT US TO LIKE UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE THE NEW OWNER.
SO THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, AND WE ASKED ERIC ABOUT, UM, THE PAPER, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S BEEN SIGNED OR NOT, THE NEW CONTRACT, BUT THAT WOULD BE ILLEGAL AT THAT POINT.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US? WELL, IF THERE IS, UH, I WAS PRESENT AT ONE POINT WHERE THERE WERE LIKE, UH, SIX OTHER ERRORS THAT, UH, UH, Y'ALL DID REQUIRE HIM TO GET THE SIGNATURES, UH, BEFORE, UM, YOU WOULD AGREE TO ALLOW REPAIRS.
UH, YOU CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT, BUT ALWAYS KEEP IN MIND EVEN IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT, YOUR, UH, RULING ON THE PROPERTY, YOUR ORDER IS WITH THE PROPERTY, NOT THE PERSON.
AND SO IF YOU DECIDE YOU'RE GOING TO, UH, ORDER DEMOLITION OF A PROPERTY, IT RUNS WITH THE PROPERTY, NOT WITH THE PERSON.
SO, AND, UM, IN THAT INSTANCE, LIKE WITH THE, THE DIFFERENT ERRORS OR WHATEVER, UM, AGAIN, THROW THAT TO LEGAL.
WE CAN GET THE FACTS, UH, FROM THE, UH, PROPERTY, THE ALLEGED, UH, OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND FIGURE THAT PORTION OUT.
UH, Y'ALL JUST FOCUS ON THE PROPERTY AND MAKE A DETERMINATION BASED ON, UH, THE CONDITION OF THE STRUCTURE, THE PRESENTATIONS BY THE PARTIES, AND JUST RULE ON THE PROPERTY.
AND WE'LL TAKE CARE OF IF THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT LEGITIMATE OWNERSHIP.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, THANK YOU, SAVITA.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S IT FOR ME.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO HEAR FROM ME AGAIN,
OH, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU.
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WE HAVE, UH, B S B GUIDELINES, POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.SO DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, THAT, SO I NEED, AND I GUESS I NEED A, UM, WHERE IS, UH, WHO IS IT? YEAH, IS IT AMEND THAT IS, UH, IN CHARGE OF THE, UH, CODE OFFICERS? YES.
I HAVE A, I HAVE A BONE OF CONTENTION.
IT IS WITH THE TENT CITY ON UNDER 35, UNDER 37.
AND IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE PEOPLE, I DON'T CARE IF THEY, IF THE CITY ALLOWS THEM TO LIVE THERE ON WITH THEIR TENTS, IT'S THE TRASH THAT I'M CONCERNED WITH.
BECAUSE IF YOU LET TRASH HANG AROUND TOO LONG, IT'S GONNA START BREEDING DISEASE.
IT'S GONNA CAUSE RATS AND ROACHES.
AND YESTERDAY I PASSED BY THERE AND THE BIRDS WERE ALREADY NIBBLING AT THE, AT THE TRASH.
AND THEY PUT IT RIGHT THERE ON, UM, I THINK IT'S, UH, LIVE OAK
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AND UM, UH, SEE BURNETT TURNS INTO, UM, TO, UM, BROOKLYN.IT'S RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER, AND THAT'S WHERE THE TENT CITY PEOPLE PUT ALL THEIR TRASH.
AND THERE'S A LITTLE TRIANGULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY RIGHT IN FRONT OF THAT ON LIVE OAK AND BURNETT.
AND HE LIVES OVER THERE BY HIMSELF, BUT HE PUTS HIS TRASH OUTSIDE OF THE FENCE BECAUSE IT'S FENCED ALL IN THE LITTLE TRIANGULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY.
AND I HAVE CALLED, I'VE TALKED TO DISTRICT ONE, I'VE TALKED TO DISTRICT TWO, AND I'VE TALKED TO CODE.
I DON'T, I MEAN, NOT CODE, BUT 3 1 1, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES, AND SOMETIMES THEY WILL COME BY AND PICK UP THE TRASH, BUT I'M, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THE CITY IS GOING TO ALLOW THESE PEOPLE TO LIVE THERE, THEY SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO A DUMPSTER OR SOME PORTA-POTTIES.
BECAUSE I WAS ASKING SOMEBODY YESTERDAY, I SAID, WELL, WHERE DID THESE PEOPLE GO TO THE BATHROOM? THERE'S NO BUSINESSES AROUND THERE EXCEPT FOR A COUPLE OF BARS ON, UH, AUSTIN STREET.
SO I'M, I'M JUST VERY CONCERNED WITH THE TRASH SITUATION AND THEIR, THEIR PERSONAL HYGIENE HEALTH GOING TO THE BATHROOM.
SO WHAT IS THE CITY GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT? OR I, I, YOU KNOW, DO I NEED TO WRITE A LETTER TO, TO THE, TO A CONGRESSMAN SOMEWHERE OR TO
UH, SO LET, LET ME, LET ME LOOK INTO THIS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE TEAM ALREADY STARTED THE PROCESS OR NOT, BUT, UH, IT SOUNDS TO ME THAT IS A HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT.
RIGHT? AND NOT NORMALLY WHAT WE DO IS WE ENGAGE D H S TO WORK WITH THEM FIRST, AND THEN AFTER THAT WE, WE DO THE ABATEMENT AND WE CLEAN THE LOCATION, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE ALLOWED TO BE THERE.
SO, UH, TO ANSWER QUESTION ABOUT IS THIS ALLOWING THEM THERE TO STAY THERE AND WE NEED TO PROVIDE DUMPSTERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
WELL, THEY, THEY'VE BEEN THERE.
WE WILL, WE WILL LOOK INTO IT AND, UH, I CAN GET YOU FEEDBACK IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS.
THEY'VE BEEN THERE, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT SQUATTERS RIGHTS NOW 'CAUSE THEY'VE BEEN THERE SO LONG.
AND, UH, EVERY DAY YOU COME BY THERE, THERE'S MORE AND MORE TRASH.
AND LIKE I SAID, SOMETIMES THE CITY WILL PICK IT UP AND SOMETIMES I DON'T KNOW WHO PICKS IT UP OR SOMETIMES IT JUST REMAINS THERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, MY SOLUTION TO THE TRASH WAS IF THE, IF THE CITY IS ALLOWING THEM TO STAY THERE, WHY OF THE CITY PUT A DUMPSTER THERE SO THEY'LL HAVE MORE ROOM TO PUT THAT TRASH AND IT WON'T BE SCATTERED ALL OVER THE STREETS.
AND THEN I, THEN I GOT TO THINKING ABOUT THE, THE PORTA POTTIES.
AND I, I UNDERSTAND THAT SOMEBODY HAS TO PAY FOR THAT.
BUT, UH, I TALKED TO DISTRICT ONE YESTERDAY.
HE'S, UM, HE'S JADA'S, UH, I THINK LIKE AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.
AND HE SAID HE WAS GONNA LOOK INTO THE CITY, UH, PUTTING A DUMPSTER THERE IF, IF THAT WAS POSSIBLE.
YOU KNOW, I JUST GET SO TIRED OF COMING BY THERE.
'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY I DRIVE.
AND I GET SO TIRED OF SEEING THE TRASH OUT THERE.
TRASH IS EVEN EVEN DANGEROUS IN YOUR HOUSE, AND YOU START GETTING GNATS ALL AROUND IT, YOU KNOW, SO, SO I THINK THE TRASH IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE FOR ME.
I, I DON'T CARE IF THEY LIVE THERE, I DON'T CARE WHERE THEY LIVE.
IT'S, UH, BUT IT'S, IT'S THE HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUE FOR ME.
UH, I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK.
UH, YEAH, GIVE ME A FEW DAYS AND I'LL, I'LL GET BACK WITH YOU IN REGARDS TO THAT.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? UH, I DO.
ROBERT, JUST ADMINISTRATIVELY, UH, AND YOUR, YOUR, YOUR PRESENTATIONS ON, ON THE VIDEO.
UM, SOMETIMES I HAVE PROBLEMS SEEING THE TINY PRINT.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO MAKE A, AN ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGE IN THE PRESENTATION OF THE SLIDES, FOR EXAMPLE, OR THE CASES.
SOMETIMES THE PRINT IS JUST VERY SMALL.
I THINK WE NEED TO INCREASE IT TO AT LEAST 12, MAYBE EVEN 13 IN SOME CASES, WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF, OF TEXTS.
UM, I KNOW IT'S EASIER WHEN YOU ARE, WHEN WE, WE WERE DOING THE BOARD MEETINGS DOWNTOWN, UH, AND YOU, AND YOU SEE EVERYTHING ON EIGHT AND A, I'VE PRINTED EIGHT AND A HALF BY 11.
BUT WHEN YOU TRANSLATE THAT ONTO A SCREEN AND PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT IT ON A, ON A LAPTOP OR A IPAD OR YOUR DESKTOP, UH, IT, IT SOMETIMES GETS DISTORTED.
SOMETIMES IT'S NOT IN, IN ALL BLACK.
SOMETIMES IT'S GRAY AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO READ.
I THINK WE MIGHT NEED TO INCREASE THE FONT,
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FOR EXAMPLE, ON, ON SINGLE PAGE PRESENTATIONS.YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT ACTUALLY ON YOUR SCREEN BY GOING OVER TO THE LEFT HAND SIDE.
I DO, THERE'S A PLUS MINUS, SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY INCREASE THE SCREEN SIZE FOR THAT PARTICULAR, UH, AREA.
HEY, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS FOR THE, UH, QUESTIONS FOR ANY, ANYONE FROM THE BOARD? DWAYNE NELSON? JUST A QUESTION THAT, UH, WOULD ASK FOR A SUPPOSITION, ANY IDEA WHEN WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO COME BACK INTO THE BUILDING FOR OUR MEETINGS? MR. NELSON? I DID.
UM, WE'VE BEEN KIND OF CLOSELY MONITORING ALL THE CHANGES.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU CAN HEAR ME OKAY.
UM, YEAH, THE LATEST UPDATE, AND THIS IS STILL SUBJECT TO CHANGE, BUT UM, WE'RE WORKING ON SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, UPDATES IN THE BOARDROOM AS FAR AS ACTUALLY EQUIPMENT.
SO OUR ORIGINAL GOAL THAT WE'VE BEEN SHOOTING FOR IS THE END OF AUGUST, UH, POTENTIALLY OPENING IT UP TO A HYBRID BOARD WHERE SOME MEMBERS COULD STILL BE, UM, AT HOME OR, OR OUT OF THE BUILDING AND SOME MEMBERS COULD BE IN THE BUILDING.
SO, UM, I THINK THE BEGINNING OF JULY, THERE'S GONNA BE LIKE TWO WEEKS WHERE WE WON'T HAVE A HEARING.
THAT'S ACTUALLY WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING SOME, A LITTLE BIT OF RECONSTRUCTION, A LITTLE BIT OF UPDATING IN THE BOARDROOM WITH SOME TECHNOLOGY.
UM, SOME, I THINK MORE MICROPHONES, I THINK SOME ADDITIONAL SPACING AS WELL.
SO WE'RE HOPING IF THAT WORKS OUT WITH OUR CONTRACTOR, UM, ON THAT TIMELINE, BY MID-JULY WE'LL START DOING SOME TRAINING AND SOME MOCK, UM, TRAINING TO SEE HOW THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY BECAUSE WE DO HAVE, IT'S NOT JUST THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD, IT'S ALSO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT ALSO, UM, I BELIEVE THE, THE ZONING AS WELL.
UM, SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT BOARDS THAT ALSO USE THE BOARDROOM.
AND SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE, UM, IT'S GONNA MEET THE NEEDS OF EVERYBODY AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
SO, WE'LL, WE'LL DEFINITELY BE WORKING PRETTY CLOSELY WITH YOU GUYS ONCE WE GET THOSE UPDATES DONE TO SEE HOW THEY'RE GONNA WORK OUT FOR OUR, UH, FOR OUR HEARINGS AND TO MAKE SURE WE KIND OF FIND SOME TYPE OF GOOD BALANCE OR SOME TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, GOOD, GOOD PROCESSING THAT'LL WORK FOR ALL OF US.
I MEAN, FOR THE, FOR THE FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SHOW UP, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE HAD A REALLY GOOD INCREASE, UH, DOING THESE, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM A, FROM THE TELECOMMUTING PIECE.
BUT FOR SOME, I KNOW THERE'S SOME THAT ARE ITCHING TO GET BACK INTO, UH, SEE SOME FACE-TO-FACE AND GET AWAY FROM THE, UH, THE SCREENS.
SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD, UM, A GOOD RESOLUTION FOR, FOR EVERYBODY CONCERNED.
AND WE ALL MISS LUNCH
YEAH, NORMALLY IT'S LIKE DROPPED THREE TIMES SO FAR.
I HAVEN'T DROPPED LUNCH, SO WE'RE DOING GOOD.
BUT I STILL WANT TO GET INTO THE MEETING.
I AM A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT YOU HAVEN'T BEEN OFF FOR A WHILE.
I GUESS MY SATELLITES HAVE LINED UP JUST RIGHT TODAY.
I'M ALSO A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT ZUNIGA DOESN'T HAVE AN ECHO.
YEAH, WELL HE HASN'T SAID ANYTHING.
AH, ARE YOU, ARE YOU STILL THERE, MR. ZIKA? I DON'T THINK HE'S WITH US TODAY.
IS HE WITH US TODAY? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
AND SO DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE, UH, LEGAL OR FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE PEOPLE? DOES THE BOARD, THERE WAS A QUESTION, UH, THAT JUDY FORWARDED TO US.
UH, I FORGOT WHO ASKED, BUT, UH, IT WAS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A TIME CLOCK FOR BOARD MEMBERS TO SPEAK AND THEIR ALLOTTED TIME IS THIS FEASIBLE AND IMPLEMENTING? UM, THERE ARE NO LEGAL BARRIERS TO IMPLEMENTING A TIME CLOCK ON THE AMOUNT OF TIME A BOARD MEMBER CAN SPEAK IF, UH, Y'ALL CHOOSE TO GO THAT ROUTE.
IT JUST NEEDS TO BE AN ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF TIME GIVEN TO THE BOARD MEMBER TO SPEAK.
AND THEN KEEP IN MIND, THE CHAIR ALWAYS HAS THE ABILITY, IF THEY FEEL THE BOARD MEMBER IS GOING OFF TOPIC OR STARTING TO BE REPETITIVE, UH,
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THE CHAIR CAN CUT THAT BOARD MEMBER OFF ONE OF ORDERBUT YES, THERE'S NO, UH, LEGAL BARRIER IF YOU DO WANNA INSTITUTE A TIME LIMIT FOR, UH, HOW LONG A BOARD MEMBER CAN SPEAK.
BUT DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JUDY, DID YOU HAVE ANY, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER, UH, WRITTEN QUESTIONS? WE HAD ONE MORE QUESTION COME IN FROM A BOARD MEMBER, UM, ASKING IF THE D S G TECH TEAM CAN OFFER IN-PERSON, IN-PERSON TRAINING SESSIONS FOR THOSE BOARD MEMBERS THAT MAY NEED ASSISTANCE IN CONNECTING.
JENNY, DO YOU HAVE A RESPONSE TO THAT? Y AND MY ANSWER IS ABSOLUTELY YES.
UM, I WOULD ASK, UM, EACH OR IN ANY INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBER TO JUST REACH OUT TO ME OR TO JUDY, AND WHAT WE CAN DO IS SET UP, EVEN IF WE'RE SETTING UP SOME PRACTICE SESSIONS, IF WE'RE DOING IT ONE-ON-ONE, UM, THAT SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM SO THAT WE DON'T RUN INTO ANY OF THE OPEN RECORDS REQUIREMENTS OR ANYTHING, OR THE, UH, OPEN MEETINGS REQUIREMENTS, BUT ONE-ON-ONE, WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM MEETING OFFLINE WITH ANYBODY TO DO SOME PRACTICE SETUPS, DO SOME, UM, TESTING, A MICROPHONE, TESTING ANY, UM, EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEED TO WORK WITH ON THE GROUPS.
SO IS THAT ALL THE QUESTIONS THE BOARD MIGHT HAVE? OKAY.
IF THERE'S, UH, NO OTHER QUESTIONS THEN, UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.
THEN BY UNANIMOUS, UH, DECISION WHO WE ARE OFFICIALLY ADJOURNED.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR HOSTING THIS MEETING AND, UH, FOR THE LAST YEAR WE HAVE REALLY ENJOYED WORKING WITH JUDY AND ESTHER AND EVERYBODY ELSE.
IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN GREAT AS ALWAYS.
AND SO WITH THAT SAID, WE ARE OFFICIALLY ADJOURNED.
AND THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR SHOWING UP TODAY,