May 28, 2021 Transportation Committee on 2021-05-28 2:00 PM

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GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.

I'M SHIRLEY GONZALEZ, CITY COUNCILWOMAN FOR DISTRICT FIVE.

UM, TODAY IS MAY 28TH AND AT 2:00 PM IN THE AFTERNOON, AND WE ARE HAVING OUR TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY COMMITTEE AGENDA.

AND SO WE WILL START TODAY WITH A ROLL CALL.

COUNCIL MEMBER TINO.

COUNCIL MEMBER CAB HDA HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL.

COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY AND CHAIRWOMAN GONZALEZ.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND, UM, WE CAN START WITH

[1. 21-3895 Approval of the Minutes for the April 19, 2021 Transportation and Mobility Committee Meeting.]

CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE? TO MOVE? WANNA GET A SECOND? A LITTLE HELP HERE, PEOPLE.

, WHAT'S GOING ON? UH, I, I JUST, I NEED A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

OH, SECOND.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THE MEETING MINUTES.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

MOTION CARRIES.

SO WE HAVE, UM, TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FOR BRIEFING.

UM,

[2. 21-3918 The Transportation Department will provide a briefing to the City Council’s Transportation & Mobility Committee on the department’s activities related to Complete Streets, NACTO Guidelines and the Vision Zero Program. [Roderick Sanchez, Assistant City Manager; Tomika Monterville, Director, Transportation]]

AND THIS IS, UH, GONNA BE DONE BY, UH, ROD AND TAMIKA.

YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.

UH, IT'S MY HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO BE JOINING YOU ON THIS LAST COMMITTEE MEETING OF THE TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY COMMITTEE MEETING.

I JUST ACTUALLY SPENT THE MORNING WITH COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ TOURING D FIVE, AND WE HAD A BLAST.

WE HAD A LOT OF FUN.

WE WERE IN THE STREETS.

MM-HMM.

, PARTYING, HAVING OUR OWN LITTLE GET TOGETHER IN THE STREETS, SEEING THE COMMUNITY.

AND I'M GONNA REALLY MISS, UH, MISS YOU AND YOUR ADVOCACY.

AND I THINK, AS I SHARED WITH YOU, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AS YOU PUT A BOW ON THIS PART OF YOUR JOURNEY AND CAREER HERE WITH THE CITY TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I WOULDN'T BE IN THIS POSITION IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE EFFORTS OF, UH, YOUR ADVOCACY AND THE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE AND THIS COUNCIL AND THE CITY LEADERSHIP AND THE MAYOR TO CREATE THIS DEPARTMENT.

BUT WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT IS THAT YOU UNDERSTAND, AS WE DISCUSSED, WHAT YOU'VE DONE IN THIS BODY, THROUGH THIS BODY AND THE RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY, IS YOU'VE CHALLENGED PEOPLE TO THINK DIFFERENTLY.

AND A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU'RE A PUBLIC SERVANT, WHEN YOU'RE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, YOU DON'T REALLY SEE ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO COME TO FRUITION HAPPEN DURING YOUR TENURE.

BUT THE SPIRIT OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU STARTED WILL CONTINUE LONG AFTER YOUR TENURE.

SO I THINK I JUST WANNA TAKE A MOMENT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, AND THANK YOU.

AND I'M JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING, YOU KNOW, YOUR NEXT, YOUR NEXT CHAPTER.

AND, AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING TO THE COMMITTEE AND UPDATE ON WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN TERMS OF ADVANCING YOUR VISION FOR THE DEPARTMENT AND YOUR DIVISION FOR THE, YOUR, YOUR VISION FOR THE CITY AND ALTERNATIVE MOBILITY OPTIONS.

SO I'M GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

I HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE COUNCIL REQUEST FROM THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS THAT YOU'VE INITIATED WITH THIS BODY.

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ESSENTIALLY WHAT THE COMMITTEE ASKED FOR WAS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WE ARE USING BEST PRACTICES AND DESIGN GUIDELINES TO INCLUDE EDUCATION AND OUTREACH RELATED TO THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF CITY TRANSPORTATION OFFICIALS AND VISION ZERO.

SO FOR MANY OF YOU, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH NATO, NATO HAS FOR, FOR QUITE SOME TIME, BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR ALTERNATIVE MODE AND ALSO AN ADVOCATE FOR RETHINKING AND REFRAMING HOW WE EXPERIENCE THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND OUR TRANSPORTATION ASSETS AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO ONE OF THE REQUESTS OF THAT C C R WAS TO TAKE A LOOK AT AND ALSO INTEGRATE NATO GUIDELINES AND NATO BEST PRACTICES INTO THE PRACTICES OF THE CITY THROUGH OUR DEPARTMENTS, WHICH INCLUDED T C I PUBLIC WORKS, AND NOW THE NEW DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

SO SINCE THIS INITIATIVE WE HAVE AND CONTINUE TO UTILIZE THE RESOURCES OF NATO IN TRAINING, IN EDUCATING STAFF, AND ALSO PARTICIPATING IN A NUMBER OF CONFERENCES WITH NATO THAT HAVE ENABLED OUR STAFF, OUR ENGINEERS AND PLANNERS AND ADMINISTRATORS AND PROJECT MANAGERS, THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN ABOUT BEST PRACTICES ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND ALSO TO EMPLOY THOSE BEST PRACTICES.

AND MANY OF THE PROJECTS YOU'VE SEEN AND YOU ALL HAVE APPROVED THROUGH THE BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM AND ALSO THE STREET MAINTENANCE INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING, I THINK YOU GUYS WILL BE EXCITED ABOUT IS JUNE 9TH AND 11TH, THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT STAFF.

WE WILL BE HAVING A WORKSHOP LED BY NATO WHERE WE'RE GONNA UNPACK AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE KEY THINGS WE NEED TO CONSIDER AS WE BREAK OFF FROM PUBLIC WORKS AND BECOME AN INDEPENDENT TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NATO HAS DONE TO HELP IN MANY CITIES LIKE ATLANTA, LIKE WASHINGTON, DC AND THOSE CITIES THAT BEFORE US INITIATED A SIMILAR SEPARATION OF, OF KEY FUNCTIONS WITHIN DEPARTMENTS.

SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO REPORT BACK AT A FUTURE TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY COMMITTEE WHAT THE RESULTS WERE OF THAT PROCESS.

SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

AND ALSO COORDINATING WITH NATO AND IDENTIFYING WHAT ARE SOME OF THE AREAS THAT THEY HAVE SEEN OTHER CITIES BE CHALLENGED BY IN TRANSITIONING A NEW DEPARTMENT AND BUILDING A NEW WAY OF LOOKING AT TRANSPORTATION.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH REGARD TO ANOTHER COMPONENT OF THE C C R WAS TO FOCUS ON VISION ZERO AND ENHANCING THE EDUCATION AND OUTREACH ASSOCIATED WITH VISION ZERO AND THE APPLICATION OF OUR BOND PROGRAM.

TO THAT END, WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH VISION ZERO IS STAFF WITHIN THE TRANSPORTATION AND THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT HAVE PARTICIPATED IN 35 EVENTS WITH PUBLIC AND PROFESSIONALS IN THE LAST YEAR.

SO KEEPING THAT IN MIND, THROUGHOUT THIS BOND PROCESS AND THROUGHOUT OUR RELATIONSHIP AS A NASO MEMBER CITY, WE HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH DIFFERENT PRACTITIONERS FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND REALLY JUST ENHANCE OUR APPROACH TO INCORPORATING AND DEVELOPING OUR VISION ZERO PROGRAM AND APPLYING IT INTO ALL OF OUR PRACTICES.

SO WHAT THEY'VE ALSO DONE IS WE ARE WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS AS WE PROVIDE GUIDANCE ON VISION ZERO AND THE APPLICATION OF VISION ZERO PRINCIPLES, WHICH INCLUDES EDUCATION, ENGINEERING, AND ALSO

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AND THIS IS AN AREA OF THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT BUDGET THAT WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO WORK ON AND IDENTIFY AREAS WHERE WE CAN REFRAME AND REEVALUATE HOW WE'RE APPROACHING VISION ZERO AND HOW WE INFORM DESIGN.

LASTLY, AS WE LOOKED AT THE C C R AND WHAT WAS ASKED BY THIS BODY, WHAT WAS CLEAR TO US IS THAT WE DID NOT HAVE T AND SO ONE OF THE DIRECTIVES WAS TO TRAIN AND EDUCATE STAFF CONSULTANTS AND CONTRACTORS ON VISION ZERO AND NATO PRINCIPLES.

ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE WE CANNOT DICTATE IS WE CAN'T DICTATE TO A CONSULTANT OR A CONTRACTOR TO REQUIRE TRAINING OF THEIR STAFF OR TEAM MEMBERS.

BUT WHAT WE CAN DO ON THE PUBLIC WORKS ON THE COSA SIDE IS THROUGH OUR CONTRACT VEHICLES, WE CAN REQUIRE THAT CONTRACTORS AND CONSULTANTS BE FAMILIAR WITH AND APPLY THE PRINCIPLES OF NATO AND VISION ZERO IN THEIR WORK IN SUPPORT OF THE CITY.

SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE IN THAT VEIN AS WE PROCURE SERVICES FROM CONTRACTORS AND CONSULTANTS TO WORK WITH OUR PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT AND IDENTIFY WHERE WITHIN OUR CONTRACTING VEHICLES WE CAN PUT THOSE REQUIREMENTS AND REQUIRE THOSE PROPOSALS TO SHOW US DURING THEIR PRE-PROPOSAL PROCESS, THEIR HISTORY OF, AND OR THEIR PLANS TO INTEGRATE VISION ZERO COMPLETE STREETS AND OTHER BEST PRACTICES AS SHARED BY NACHO IN THEIR PROPOSALS.

WE BELIEVE THAT IS THE PLACE WHERE WE CAN BEGIN TO INCULCATE THOSE PRACTICES AND THOSE PRIORITIES IN OUR CONTRACTING, WHICH ENDS UP BEING THE RESULT IN OUR BUILD ENVIRONMENT.

SO WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN, I WILL STOP SHARING MY SCREEN AND OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS.

UH, WELL THANK YOU, UM, TAMIKA FOR THE UPDATE AND, AND OF COURSE FOR SPENDING TIME WITH ME THIS MORNING.

UH, AS WE TOUR, UM, THE DISTRICT, UM, THE, UM, UH, I THOUGHT THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE PURPOSE OF COURSE FOR THE TOUR WAS TO SHOW YOU, UM, SOME OF THE, THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST AND THEN, YOU KNOW, TRY TO BUILD ON SOME OF THOSE.

AND I HAD SOME SMALL SECTOR PLANS THAT, UM, I'M SURE MY COLLEAGUES WILL HEAR ABOUT AT SOME POINT IF THEY HAVEN'T ALREADY.

UM, BUT ALL OF THEM WERE TRYING TO INCORPORATE ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION.

WE WERE TRYING TO INCORPORATE, YOU KNOW, WALKABILITY, UH, INTO THOSE, UH, PLANS.

UM, BUT OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T DO ANY OF THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING.

UM, AND I FEEL LIKE MAYBE THAT'S GONNA BE PART OF THE NEXT PRESENTATION.

WHAT, WHEN, UM, WE TALK ABOUT EQUITY IN, IN FINANCING, UH, SOME OF THESE.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE THE REASON FOR, FOR ALL THAT AND INCLUDING THE, UM, DIVISION ZERO INITIATIVES, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE ALWAYS FELT THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN FUNDED SUFFICIENTLY TO HAVE AN IMPACT.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN A VISION ZERO CITY FOR SEVEN YEARS NOW, AND YET WE STILL HAVE VERY HIGH FATALITY RATES, ESPECIALLY FOR, UM, PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS.

I DON'T KNOW.

CAN, CAN YOU MAYBE ADDRESS SOME OF THE WAYS THAT WE CAN USE THE BEST PRACTICES AND THE DESIGN GUIDELINES AND OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH NATO TO ENSURE THAT THESE PROJECTS GET FUNDED APPROPRIATELY? YES, MA'AM.

I THINK THAT AS I'VE BEEN HERE FOR A FEW MONTHS NOW, I NOTICED THAT WE HAVE A ROBUST BOND PROGRAM, VERY ROBUST, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK OUR APPROACH HAS BEEN, WE'VE BEEN REACTIVE IN THE SENSE THAT WE WANNA MAKE THE STREET SAFE FOR CYCLISTS AND FOR PEDESTRIANS, BUT WE'VE COME AT IT NOT HOLISTICALLY.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIT AROUND PEG IN A SQUARE HOLE.

I FORGET HOW THAT GOES, BUT WE'RE APPLYING ALTERNATIVE MODALITIES AFTER WE'VE DESIGNED THE ROADWAY FOR AUTOMOBILES.

AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT VISION ZERO, IT'S A PROGRAM, IT IS A NUMBER OF

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AND IF WITH OUR BOND PROGRAM, WE'RE TRYING TO INTEGRATE BICYCLES, INTEGRATE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AFTER WE'VE ALREADY DESIGNED, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE JUST HAVE TO STOP DOING BECAUSE WE'RE PUTTING CYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS IN UNSAFE SITUATIONS.

BECAUSE IF WE ARE NOT CHANGING THE SPEEDS ON THE ROADWAYS, BUT WE ARE INSTALLING THE BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE, EVEN WITH THE ROAD DIET, WE'RE STILL PUTTING PEOPLE IN AN UNSAFE LOCATION ON A ROAD BECAUSE IT WAS IN THE BOND.

AND WE'RE GONNA DO, WE'RE DOING A MILL AND OVERLAY, LET'S GO AND PUT BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THERE.

AND I THINK IT, IT'S A WELL-MEANING EFFORT, BUT IT'S COME AT THE WRONG TIME.

SO PART OF US PULLING BACK AND SAYING, HEY, LET'S LOOK AT THE BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM.

LET'S, LET'S LOOK AT IT IN CONCERT WITH THE STREETS PROGRAM, AND WHERE ARE WE ACTUALLY DIRECTING CYCLISTS TO BE? ARE WE INHERENTLY PLACING THEM IN UNSAFE SITUATIONS BECAUSE WE JUST DID A MILL AND OVERLAY AND WE'RE GONNA PUT A STRIPE LANE THERE AND THE ROADWAY SPEEDS ARE 40 MILES AN HOUR? I THINK NATO IS A GREAT RESOURCE FOR US TO GIVE US THE GUIDANCE OF HOW TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY, BUT WE HAVE TO START THAT AT THE DESIGN PROCESS AND NOT DO IT AS AN AFTERTHOUGHT JUST BECAUSE WE'RE DOING THIS PROJECT, LET'S JUST THROW IT IN.

SO IT, WE'RE DOING THAT.

ANTHONY AND I ARE COMMUNICATING, WE JUST TALKED A LITTLE BIT TODAY, WE ARE FIGURING IT OUT AND WE'RE SAYING, HEY, WE HAVE TO MAKE THE STREETS SAFE.

WE HAVE THESE TOOLS, BUT WHERE ARE WE REALLY BEGINNING TO INTEGRATE THOSE TOOLS INTO OUR PRACTICES? UH, WELL THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS FOR A FUTURE PRESENTATION WE COULD DO, UM, KIND OF A SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON.

SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT EXISTS, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE PLANNED, UM, BY, BY INSTALLING A BIKE LANE.

SO TAMIKA AND I WERE AROUND, UM, OF COURSE MOSTLY IN THE WEST SIDE.

WE WENT OUT TO, UM, THE AREA A LITTLE BIT PAST JOHN MCMULLEN, UM, TOWARDS THE MADONNA CENTER AND, AND, UH, AND THAT AREA.

SO, UM, I COULD SHOW HER WHAT CURRENTLY EXISTS, UH, IN OUR STREET MAINTENANCE AND WHAT THE BIKE LANES LOOK LIKE, AND, AND OF COURSE TO SEE OUR DENSE COMMUNITY AND ALSO HOW IT INTERACTS WITH TRANSIT.

AND SHE HAS REALLY WONDERFUL IDEAS, UH, ABOUT THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M ALSO A VISUAL PERSON AND I THINK IT'S HELPFUL TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT EXISTS TODAY.

THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED, HERE'S A BETTER ALTERNATIVE AND IT'S GONNA COST X NUMBER OF DOLLARS AND WE NEED THEM MONEY.

SO I THINK THAT'S ALSO WHERE WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH, UM, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO THE DESIGNING AND THE PLANNING, BUT WE FOLLOW THROUGH, UH, BY ACTUALLY PUTTING THE DOLLARS, UM, WHERE THEY WOULD BE MOST, UM, IMPACTFUL.

UM, SO, UH, I THINK THAT, UM, UH, THOSE ARE ALL VERY IMPORTANT.

I JUST, I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION JUST, UM, UH, REGARDING U D C AMENDMENTS, AND I, I KNOW TAMIKA, IT'S NOT EXACTLY, IT'S, IT'S NOT IN IN THE PRESENTATION TODAY, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW HAS TO BE ADDRESSED, UM, IS THAT WE, WE HAVE, WE ADDRESS THE U D C CONSTRAINTS OF THE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.

SO HOW DO YOU SEE THAT, UM, LINING UP? UH, BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO U D C AMENDMENTS AT A CERTAIN TIME, AND I KNOW ROD'S ON THE LINE, AND I'VE BEEN GIVING HIM GRIEF FOR A WHILE THAT WE HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH THOSE U D C AMENDMENTS BECAUSE MY SENSE IS THAT NOT DOING THE U D C AMENDMENT IS GONNA HOLD US UP ON OTHER BOND PROJECTS, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WE'RE, WE'RE PLANNING AND WE'RE FUNDING, BUT WITHOUT THE U D C, UM, I JUST WONDER IF THEY CAN BE COMPLETED IN A TIMELY MANNER.

YOU, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN I TO, TO ME, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BOND PROJECTS, I, I, I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT WE NEED THE U D C 'CAUSE THE U D C SETS THE MINIMUM STANDARDS.

SO YOU'LL YOU'LL RECALL THAT, THAT THE MAJORITY OF OUR STREETS ARE BUILT BY THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AS THEY ARE DEVELOPING PROJECTS ALONGSIDE THOSE ROADS.

SO, SO THEY BUILD THEM AND THE U D C SETS THE STANDARDS FOR THEM TO BUILD 'EM.

UM, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN'T SET FOR OURSELVES HIGHER STANDARDS IN THE BOND.

UH, THE UDC IS A MINIMUM, WE HAVE TO MEET THE MINIMUM.

UM, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY SET HIGHER STANDARDS IN THE BOND.

SO, UH, AND IF THERE'S A CONFLICT BETWEEN A HIGHER STANDARD THAN WHAT THE UDC SAYS, THEN YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN HUDDLE WITH, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPING SERVICES AND, AND PUBLIC WORKS AND TRANSPORTATION

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SO I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE THE UUD C AS HOLDING THIS UP.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

CAN I ADD, UH, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.

I'M SORRY, DID SOMEBODY ELSE WANNA CHIME IN? YEAH, THIS IS DAVID MCBETH WITH PUBLIC COURT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO WHAT TAMIKA AND ROD HAD SAID THAT JUST TO, FOR THIS COMMITTEE'S BENEFIT, UH, OUR DESIGN GUIDANCE MANUAL, WHICH, UH, PUBLIC WORKS UPDATES EVERY FIVE YEARS WITH THE BOND PROGRAM, UH, INCLUDES THIS LAST ROUND IN 2017, WE UPDATED THE DESIGN GUIDANCE MANUAL TO INCLUDE SPECIFIC, UH, CONTENT REGARDING COMPLETE STREETS AND THE DESIGN OF, UH, STREETS, PEDESTRIANS AND BIKES.

UH, AND IN ONE OF OUR SECTIONS IN THE, IN THE DESIGN GUIDANCE MANUAL, AND IT SPECIFICALLY REFERENCES, UH, NATO URBAN STREET DESIGN GUIDANCE, URBAN BIKEWAY DESIGN GUIDANCE, ALL THE NATO REFERENCE, UH, MANUALS.

AND SO WHEN WE, UM, WHEN WE START DESIGN WITH OUR CONSULTANT TEAMS FOR BOND STREET PROJECTS, WE, WE TRY TO LOOK AT EACH STREET INDIVIDUALLY AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CONTEXT OF THAT STREET IS, AND IS IT, IS IT THE RIGHT SETTING FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, DO WE NEED TO IMPROVE THE, THE PEDESTRIAN ELEMENT? UH, IS THIS ON A BIKE ROUTE? THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

AND, AND THEN WE USE THOSE REFERENCES ONCE WE SCOPE THE PROJECT TO DEVELOP THE DESIGN WITH THE DESIGN CONSULTANT USING, UH, MATO DESIGN GUIDANCE TO HELP US DEVELOP THE ACTUAL DESIGN.

AND SO, UH, BUT TAMIKA'S RIGHT, YOU KNOW, EARLY IN THIS DESIGN SCOPING PROCESS FOR THE NEXT BOND, LIKE WE'RE DOING NOW, UH, THAT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND THOSE STREETS AND START TO DO THAT EARLY ENOUGH IN THE PROCESS TO KNOW, IS THIS GOING TO BE A ROAD DIET? AND WHAT TYPE OF CROSS-SECTION WOULD WE WANT TO, UM, IMPLEMENT ON THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT SO THAT WE SCOPE IT PROPERLY AND WE FUND IT PROPERLY, UH, TO INCLUDE ALL OF THOSE ELEMENTS AND MAKE IT A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

WELL, LET ME TURN IT OVER TO SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES, UH, STARTING WITH, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER KAO.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

UM, I RECALL YEARS AGO I WAS WORKING FOR THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.

IT'S BEEN SEVERAL YEARS NOW, BUT, UM, THE CYCLING COMMUNITY BACK THEN HAD A DESIRE FOR CROSSTOWN CONNECTIVITY.

AND, UM, THEY TALKED ABOUT, WE TALKED BACK THEN ABOUT IT BEING THE SPOKES ON THE WHEEL.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HERE CAN REMEMBER THAT OR IF THAT'S THE VERNACULAR THAT'S KIND OF CONTINUED OVER THE YEARS.

BUT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WITH REGARD TO, UM, BEST PRACTICES FOR BICYCLES.

UM, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT WE'RE DOING TO ACHIEVE BROADER RANGING CONNECTIVITY? SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE DEVELOPING A SCOPE OF WORK FOR, UH, MAJOR UPDATE OF THE BIKE MASTER PLAN.

AND PART OF OUR VISION IS TO HAVE, AS A RESULT OF THAT PLAN, THE DEVELOPMENT OF A PRIMARY NETWORK OF BIKE LANES AND THEN A SECONDARY NETWORK OF BICYCLE LANES, I THINK, AND NOT JUST LANES, BUT BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO WHETHER IT'S A CYCLE TRACK, WHETHER IT'S A SEPARATED BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE OR, YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF TREATMENTS.

BUT WHAT WE WANNA DO IS LET THE LAND USE AND LET THE SPEED OF THE ROADWAY DICTATE THE TYPOLOGY OR TYPE OF BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE SUCH THAT WE HAVE A GUIDE FOR DEVELOPERS FOR THE U D C TO SAY, IF THIS IS 120 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, FIRST OF ALL, THAT'S NOT IDEAL FOR A BIKE TO BE ON.

IT'S NOT IDEAL BECAUSE WE KNOW BASED ON ALL OF THE DATA RELATED TO VISION ZERO, THAT YOU'RE GONNA DIE IF YOU ARE SERIOUSLY INJURED ON A, ON A ROADWAY WHERE THE SPEEDS ARE 35 MILES OR HIGHER AND YOU'RE ON A BIKE.

SO WHAT WE HAVE TO STOP DOING, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW, AND I TOLD COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ, THE BIKE COMMUNITY WILL HATE TO HEAR THIS, THE STREETS ARE MADE FOR ALL PEOPLE, BUT ALL STREETS ARE NOT MADE FOR ALL MODES.

AND WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC BECAUSE IF WE HAVE ROADWAYS WITH THESE SPEEDS, AND I KNOW I'M DRIVING IN A 35 MILE AN HOUR, YOU LOOK UP WITH NEW CARS, YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW FAST THEY'RE GOING, YOU'RE DOING 50 MILES AN HOUR.

THE REALITY IS WE HAVE TO FIRST AS A CITY PRIORITIZE SAFETY, AND IF YOU PRIORITIZE SAFETY, WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON THOSE CORRIDORS THAT PROVIDE AS SEAMLESS AN EXPERIENCE AS POSSIBLE FOR CYCLISTS, BUT ON THE SAFEST PATH.

AND OFTEN THAT'S GONNA BE ONE OF YOUR COLLECTOR STREETS OR

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QUITE HONESTLY, FROM, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, AND I THINK WE NEED TO WORK TO MAKE THOSE NETWORK CONNECTIONS, COUNCILWOMAN, VEO HAIDA, WE HAVE TO MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS AND WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE IS ONLY SO MUCH WE CAN DO TO MAKE AN ARTERIAL SAFE FOR A CYCLISTS.

AND WHEN WE REALIZE THAT, WE THEN START TO LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVES? WHAT ARE THE PARALLEL STREETS THAT OFFER A GREAT EXPERIENCE FOR A CYCLIST? AND USUALLY THEY'RE GONNA BE IN SOME RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE A MILE OFF FROM THAT SPINE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO COME OUT OF THE BIKE MASTER PLAN UPDATE.

THAT'S A LONG-TERM VISION, IS TO HAVE THIS DOCUMENT WHEREBY SOMEONE CAN SAY, OH, I'M BUILDING A NEW HIGH RISE BUILDING ON THE CORNER OF FLORES AND CESAR CHAVEZ.

I'M REDOING THIS.

WHAT'S THE TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT I NEED TO HAVE? WHAT'S THE STREET WITH? WHAT IS THE MINIMUM BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT CAN BE HERE? AND WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM? AND ONCE WE GET TO THAT PLACE, WE THEN BEGIN TO INFORM THE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE IT MIGHT NOT BE A ROAD THAT'S DESIGNED FOR BIKES, IT MIGHT BE A ROAD THAT'S DESIGNED TO BE BETTER FOR MOVEMENT OF CARS OR MOVEMENT OF TRANSIT.

AND SO I THINK WE PRIORITIZE OUR ROADWAYS BASED ON THE HIGHEST AND OPTIMAL USE, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY THE SAFEST USERS FOR THAT ROADWAY.

SO, UM, IF YOU GO BACK TO, I THINK ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS YOU SAID, THERE WAS A PRIMARY AND THEN A SECONDARY, WHAT DID YOU CALL THAT? PRIMARY OR SECONDARY ROADWAYS FOR A BIKE NETWORK? SO WE SHOULD HAVE A PRIMARY NETWORK NETWORK MUCH LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR BROADWAYS, WE HAVE OUR BLANCOS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ALL OF OUR ARTERIALS.

BUT WHAT I ENVISION FOR THE CITY IS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO SAY, OH, OKAY, YOU WANNA GO NORTH AND SOUTH? WELL, YOU'RE GONNA TAKE HOWARD ONCE YOU GET NORTH BECAUSE IT'S ADJACENT TO SAN PEDRO, BUT YOU CAN JUST GO OVER, IT'S A PLEASANT RIDE ONCE YOU GET NORTH OF, YOU KNOW, WHEREVER.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT.

WHEN I HAVE DRIVEN AROUND, AND AS I DRIVE AROUND, I DROVE TO WORK FRIDAY, I DROVE TO THE PEARL, AND THEN I DROVE INTO THE OFFICE AND I TOOK THE SCENIC ROUTE.

IT WAS A LITTLE CIRCUITOUS, BUT IT WAS THE SAFEST ROUTE FOR ME.

I COULD'VE WRITTEN DOWN BROADWAY AND I COULD'VE TAKEN BROADWAY, I COULD'VE TAKEN AUSTIN HIGHWAY FROM MY HOUSE TO BROADWAY.

THAT'S A CHALLENGING ROUTE TO TAKE, WHETHER YOU ARE A SEASONED RIDER OR NOT.

BUT I THINK CREATING A NETWORK THAT'S SAFE, THAT PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH, IT ALSO MAKES IT SAFER.

AND IT IMPROVES RELIABILITY FOR AUTO DRIVERS TOO, BECAUSE, AND ANYONE WHO'S BEEN BEHIND A GROUP OF CYCLISTS SAYS, OH MAN, THESE CYCLISTS GET THE WHOLE LANE.

RIGHT? I KNOW Y'ALL FEEL THAT WAY, BUT IF WE CAN HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE AND NOT TAKE SOMETHING AWAY FROM ALL THE USERS, IT MAKES IT A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE FOR EVERYONE.

AND THEY, THE CYCLISTS GET JUST AS FRUSTRATED WHEN THEY GET A PACK OF CARS AROUND THEM AND THEY KNOW THEY'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE THAT WHOLE LANE.

YOU STILL HAVE THAT ANXIETY.

IT'S A LOT DIFFERENT IF I HAVE A 2,500 WEIGHT VEHICLE VERSUS A COUPLE OF BIKES.

SO THAT'S A, THAT'S WHAT I ENVISION FOR US.

AND I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT THAT WE TALK ABOUT WHAT DO YOU ENVISION FOR THE ROADWAY IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE AS MUCH AS PEOPLE LIKE RIDING BIKES, AND WE HAVE AVID CYCLISTS IN THE COMMUNITY, IF YOU WAKE UP TOMORROW AND THERE'S A CYCLE TRACK IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE, YOU'RE GONNA BE UPSET BECAUSE THAT WAS PARKING THAT YOU HAD THAT YOU NO LONGER HAVE.

SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT THEY UNDERSTAND ABOUT CYCLING, WHAT THEY UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE LANGUAGE IS IMPORTANT, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE EDUCATE PEOPLE ON WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO BESIDES JUST IMPOSING A BIKE LANE ON THEM, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A, A ACTIVE CYCLING COMMUNITY, BUT WE ALSO HAVE AN ACTIVE DRIVING COMMUNITY AS WELL.

WELL, I, I, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE SECONDARY NETWORK BEING IMPORTANT, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WITH, WITH FOLKS, BUT I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS YOU SAID.

UM, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW WHEN I'M DRIVING, I LOVE MY CAR TOO, BUT WHEN I'M DRIVING AND I SEE, UM, A BIKE, UM, A BIKE, A CYCLIST HAS A GOOD SIZED LANE, I'M HAPPY THAT THEY HAVE THAT GOOD SIZED LANE.

IT DOESN'T IMPOSE ON ME BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I'M, I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY SO MUCH ABOUT KIND OF EDGING OVER.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY SO MUCH.

WE ALL FEEL A LITTLE SAFER.

RIGHT.

UM, AND YOU, YOU MENTIONED PRIORITIZING SAFETY, UH, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S, THOSE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, BIKE LANES AND, AND,

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I MEAN, I THINK WE HAVE TO INCORPORATE BOTH OF THOSE THINGS.

WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU SAY PRIORITIZING SAFETY, I KIND OF GET THE GIST THAT YOU WERE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, DRIVERS AND, AND, AND, AND I THINK REALLY THIS IS WHAT COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ, I THINK HAS BEEN FIGHTING FOR, FOR YEARS.

THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT, IS THAT WE, IT'S VERY DRIVER CENTRIC.

AND SO WE, WE WANNA BRING IN THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE CYCLIST.

UM, AND, AND I, THAT THAT'S MY CONCERN ABOUT THIS.

AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BIKE MASTER PLAN UPDATE, I MEAN, ACTUALLY I DON'T, WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME FOR THAT? SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE SCOPING PROCESS, DEVELOPING OUR SCOPE OF WORK.

IT'S PROBABLY REALISTICALLY GONNA TAKE ABOUT TWO YEARS TO COMPLETE A COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE OF THE BIKE MASTER PLAN.

AND THIS IS AN EXTENSIVE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PIECE.

YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE A PUBLIC WORKS ENTITY, AND I'VE SAID THIS, YOU KNOW, TO MY COLLEAGUES IN PUBLIC WORKS.

PUBLIC WORKS IS ABOUT BUILDING THINGS.

IT'S NOT ABOUT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, IT'S ABOUT DESIGNING IT.

THIS IS WHERE IT'S GONNA BE AND IN FOUR YEARS WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU AND WE'RE GONNA START CONSTRUCTION, AND WE'RE GONNA LET YOU KNOW 30 DAYS IN ADVANCE WHEN WE START THAT CONSTRUCTION.

THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF HOW PUBLIC WORKS HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY.

AND WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS A COMPREHENSIVE CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY TO, WITH OUR RESIDENTS TO SAY, WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT BICYCLES? WHAT DO YOU KNOW? LIKE, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU WERE ON A BIKE? WHAT DO YOU KNOW? WHAT IS YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH BICYCLES IN YOUR COMMUNITY? BECAUSE WE'RE COME, ALL OF US ON THIS LINE, WE, WE SIT FROM A PLACE OF PRIVILEGE.

WE CAN GO GET ON THE TRAILS AND DRIVE TO THE TRAILS IN OUR, YOU KNOW, EXPENSIVE CARS AND GO AND RIDE THE TRAILS.

BUT HOW DO PEOPLE EXPERIENCE USING BICYCLES? AND WHAT IS THAT LIKE FOR YOU? IS IT A PRIORITY? YOU HAVE A MAJOR ARTERIAL IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE, WE COULD SLOW IT DOWN WITH A ROAD DIET, BUT DO YOU WANT BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE? AND THAT, IT'S HARD TO CONSIDER THAT EVERYONE DOESN'T WANT A BIKE, BUT IF THEY DON'T WANNA BIKE ON THAT MAJOR ROADWAY THAT CONNECTS THEIR COMMUNITY, WHO ARE WE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE TO DEVELOP AND EDUCATE.

A HUGE PART OF THIS PLAN IS GONNA BE EDUCATING PEOPLE ON WHAT THAT BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE IS, THE DIFFERENT TYPES, BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THE LANGUAGE WE'RE USING WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A CYCLE TRACK, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I THINK WE CAN DO IT, BUT WE HAVE TO LET THE COMMUNITY SAY WHERE THEY WANT IT.

AND THEN AS THE PROFESSIONALS, WE ALL ARE, WE HAVE TO WORK TO MAKE SURE THE FIRM THAT IS AWARDED THIS WORK DESIGNS THE ROADWAY, THAT PRIMARY NETWORK WHERE PEOPLE WANNA BE AND HOW THEY WANNA GET THERE SO THAT WE DON'T PRECLUDE MODE, BUT WE DON'T PLACE MODE IN OPERATING ENVIRONMENTS THAT ARE INHERENTLY UNSAFE.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BIKE MASTER PLAN, ALL OF THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, UH, EQUALLY INCLUDING ALL STAKEHOLDERS, UH, NOT, NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, THOSE DRIVERS.

AND ANOTHER CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS, I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS SORT OF THING, PEOPLE TALK ABOUT, UM, CYCLISTS FOR THAT ARE FOR RECREATION.

YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PARTS OF MY DISTRICT, PARTS OF OUR WHOLE CITY THAT USE BICYCLE AS THEIR PRIMARY SORT OF MOTOR TRANSPORTATION.

THAT'S HOW THEY GET TO WORK, THAT'S HOW THEY GET TO SCHOOL.

IT'S NOT RECREATION, IT'S UTILITY.

AND SO IT'S JUST AS IMPORTANT AS, UH, SOMEBODY DRIVING TO WORK.

UM, MAYBE EVEN MORE SO BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE MORE EXPOSED AND IT'S GONNA TAKE THEM LONGER, UH, YOU KNOW, TO GET THEIR BIKE TO THE BUS STOP, ALL OF THAT.

SO, UH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING THESE THINGS IN MIND.

UM, AND I DO APPRECIATE EARLIER, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING LIKE THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WE CAN DO.

WE GOT INTO A DISCUSSION WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, ROD AND RAZZIE ABOUT COLLAB ROAD WHERE I SAID, I WANT IT ALL, I WANT ALL THE LANES AND ALL THE BIKE LANES, AND I WANT 'EM PROTECTED, AND I WANT TREES AND, YOU KNOW, .

AND HE SAID, OKAY, WAIT, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH SPACE HERE, RIGHT? AND I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT UM, I KNOW THAT YOU ALL WILL APPRECIATE THAT IT'S OUR JOB TO KEEP PUSHING FOR EVERYTHING FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS.

SO, UM, SO THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE YOU ANSWER MY QUESTION.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

AND, AND TO YOUR POINT, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING, COUNCILWOMAN, THAT WE NEED TO ELEVATE THE TRAILS TO BE A TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENT.

AND WE HAVE NOT BEEN DOING THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW FROM COVID, AND EVEN BEFORE COVID, IN A LARGE PART OF THE CITY, PEOPLE ARE USING BIKES TO GET TO WORK BECAUSE THAT'S ALL THEY HAVE.

THEY CAN'T AFFORD $2 AND SOME CHANGE, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE $5 TO GO, YOU KNOW, ONE WAY THAT'S, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

AND THAT'S WHY CONNECTING THE TRAIL NETWORK, BECAUSE THAT'S OUR BELTWAY FOR THE CYCLISTS, THAT'S OUR LOOP.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND SO THAT'S REALLY A NUMBER ONE GOAL OF MINE IS TO STOP RELEGATING BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE

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SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HOMER AND I LIKE HOMER AND I JUST ARE JUST, WE JUST FAN GIRLING AND FAN GUYING OVER HERE ABOUT REALLY MARRYING THAT AND GETTING PEOPLE TO THINK OF IT DIFFERENTLY.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM, WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL.

I THINK YOU MIGHT BE MUTED NOW.

COUNCILMAN, ARE YOU TRYING TO FIGURE OUT YOUR NEW SYSTEM TOO? ? SHE, UM, I, I HAPPENED TO BE YESTERDAY.

I KEPT HANGING UP, UH, THE CALL.

SO I, WE'LL GIVE HER A SECOND TO RECONNECT.

I, I THINK I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.

'CAUSE I DID THIS YESTERDAY.

I HUNG UP WHEN I MEANT TO UNMUTE.

UM, SO WE'LL GIVE HER A SECOND.

COUNCIL MEMBER.

TINO, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, I MEAN, I, IF I MAY, I, I JUST A FEW COMMENTS, UH, JUST FROM, BASED FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, I'M SORRY I WAS LATE.

UH, BUT, UH, JUST FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, I, I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S VERY, UH, TELLING THAT, UH, THAT, UH, TAKING, TAKING OUR TIME TO DO IT RIGHT WHEN, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A MASTER PLAN, IT'S SO CRITICAL THAT WE ARE, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT ALL THE THINGS.

UH, THEY, THEY, THEY CAN MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR US.

AND, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO BIKE MASTER PLAN, YOU KNOW, I THINK ABOUT, FOR EXAMPLE, MY OWN MOTHER RIDING A BIKE AND, AND CAN SHE USE THIS, THIS, YOU KNOW, LAID OUT PLAN.

AND SO I, I THINK WE SHOULD BE, UH, JUST, JUST KEEP IN MIND THE, THAT, THAT, THAT THERE'S DIFFERENT AGE RANGES CAPABILITIES.

THERE'S SO MUCH TO BE THINKING ABOUT.

UM, AND, AND, AND OF COURSE, I MEAN, THIS REALLY ALL GOES BACK TO, UH, THESE ARE SOME OF THE CORE PRINCIPLES OF THE, OF VISION ZERO THAT YOU'VE ALWAYS PROMOTED COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, UH, SILAS, UH, AND THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS ADVOCATING FOR THAT.

SO I, ALL I CAN SAY IS I AGREE WITH A HUNDRED PERCENT WITH A LOT OF WHAT'S BEEN SAID.

UH, WHAT, WHAT I WOULD, WHAT I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR HERE IS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, I WANT THIS COUNCIL TO KNOW THAT, THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY WITHOUT A CITY ARCHITECT.

AND, AND WE NEED TO PROMOTE, UH, AND HIRE A CITY ARCHITECT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO BE A PART OF THIS MASTER PLANNING EFFORT.

AS, AS, AS, UH, UH, MS. WAS SAYING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT'S GONNA TAKE, IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME TIME, BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS CITY NEEDS A CITY ARCHITECT.

WE, WE DID HAVE A PEDESTRIAN MOBILITY OFFICER, SO I WOULD, I WOULD, UH, ALSO PUSH THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAD A, UH, UH, THOSE TWO POSITIONS NEED TO BE FILLED, UH, IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK, UH, AT SOMETHING THAT IS SO CRITICAL FOR OUR CITY.

AND I DO REALLY APPRECIATE THE PERSPECTIVE THAT, THAT EVERYBODY'S KIND GOT THE RIGHTS TO, TO, TO THESE, UH, UH, THESE ROUTES AND TO BE THOUGHT ABOUT.

SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE IDEA IS THAT, THAT THIS IS BASICALLY, UH, A MASTER PLAN THAT CONSIDERS EVERYTHING.

AND SO, UH, I JUST WANNA SAY I'M IN FULL AGREEMENT OF THAT.

I LOOK FORWARD TO MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW THAT CAN, HOW THAT CAN HAPPEN, AND HOW THAT COULD, UH, YOU KNOW, REALLY MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THE DIFFERENT PARTS OF, OF, OF THE COMMUNITY, UH, DO PROVIDE DIFFERENT, UH, LEVELS OF, OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND OPPORTUNITY.

AND, AND WE SHOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, WE MAKE THE BEST OF THE RESOURCES THAT WE DO HAVE BECAUSE THE CITY WAS BUILT AT DIFFERENT TIMES, AT DIFFERENT, IN DIFFERENT WAYS OVER THAT TIME.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE SMART WAY TO TO, TO APPROACH IT.

AND I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD, GOOD PEOPLE, UH, ON BOARD.

UH, I SEE, UH, MR. DAVID BETH ON THE LINE, AND ANTHONY, UH, CHIP DIER, AND, UH, OF COURSE, I, I THOUGHT I JUST SAW ROD, MAYBE HE JUST STEPPED OUT FOR A MINUTE, BUT, OR HE'S KIND OF BENDING DOWN THERE.

UH, SO AGREED WITH A HUNDRED PERCENT WITH WHAT'S BEEN SAID.

UH, BUT AGAIN, MY REQUEST WOULD BE LIKE, LET'S, LET'S PLEASE, YOU KNOW, ROD, LET'S, LET'S FILL THAT, UH, CITY ARCHITECT POSITION AND PEDESTRIAN MOBILITY OFFICER, UH, POSITION, UH, JUST SIMPLY TO, TO ADD TO, TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS I JUST HEARD.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

UH, THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER VIN NEIL.

UM, HOW ABOUT NOW? COUNCILMAN AL? YOU WANNA GIVE IT ANOTHER TRY?

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OKAY.

UH, YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW, BUT I THINK YOU'RE, UH, YOUR CAMERA TURNED OFF.

.

WELL, SORRY, MY CAMERA'S ON, BUT IT'S HIGHLIGHTING MY TELEPHONE 'CAUSE I'M CALLING IN, UH, I DIDN'T CONNECT WITH MY USER ID, SO APOLOGIES.

I, THERE YOU GO.

HANG OUT.

YOU OKAY? I SEE YOU OKAY AGAIN.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

I, I DO SEE YOU HERE.

GO AHEAD.

NO, I'M, I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, AS I WAS SAYING VERY ELOQUENTLY, UH, WITH NO SOUND EARLIER, WAS I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ FOR HER TIRELESS LEADERSHIP IN FIGHTING FOR SAFE ROADS, SAFER ROADS FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS.

COUNCILWOMAN HAS BEEN DOING THIS LONG BEFORE, UH, I WAS ON COUNCIL.

UH, SO I, I WANNA THANK HER FOR THAT.

UM, I, I HOPE WE CAN FIND YOU SOME SORT OF ADVISORY OR EX-OFFICIAL ROLE, UH, AFTER, AFTER JUNE 15TH, SO WE CAN STILL RELY ON YOUR, ON, ON THAT CHAMPION IN YOU AND THAT INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE THAT, THAT YOU HAVE.

UM, I, UH, I SIGNED BOTH OF YOUR CCRS COUNCILWOMAN, AND I WAS ALWAYS PROUD TO DO SO, AND REALLY GLAD TO SEE THE, THE ADVANCES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE.

UH, BUT LIKE YOU, I AM ALSO WORRIED THAT THE FUNDING DOES NOT, UH, DOES NOT MEET THE SPIRIT.

THE FUNDING THAT WE'VE SET ASIDE DOES WE MEET THE SPIRIT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS, UH, IN OUR BUDGET CYCLE AND TOUGH DECISIONS IN OUR, IN OUR BOND FUNDING CYCLE IF WE'RE WILLING TO DO THAT.

UH, SO, UM, I'M GONNA MAKE A COUPLE OF, OF SUGGESTIONS, UH, OUT THERE.

UH, I THINK OUR TRANSPORTATION DIRECTORS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT IN THAT, YOU KNOW, PUTTING STRIPING A LANE ON A 35 MILE PER HOUR ROAD DOESN'T, DOESN'T NECESSARILY MAKE IT SAFE.

UH, SO THERE ARE DISADVANTAGES TO DOING THAT.

UH, BUT LIKE MY COLLEAGUE COUNCILMAN GABRIEL HOWARD HAS SAID IS, IF PEOPLE NEED TO TAKE THIS ROAD FOR WORK, THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT WHETHER WE THE LINE OR NOT.

AND I, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE, THE DIFFICULT QUESTION IS FOR, FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE, WHO NEED TO DO IT TO CONNECT THEMSELVES TO OPPORTUNITY AND WORK, UH, THAT'S HAPPENING ANYWAY.

I, SO, SO LET'S THINK ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO IN, IN THAT REGARD, UH, TO MAKE IT SAFER FOR THEM.

SECONDLY, I, AS, AS SOMEONE WHO'S ALWAYS ADVOCATING FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, I SUPPORT THE PROCESS FOR THE BIKE MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU ARE DESCRIBING, UH, TO TAMIKA.

I THINK, UH, YOU'RE RIGHT, IT DOES HAVE TO BE THOUGHTFUL.

AND EVEN IF THE FRONT OF MY STREET IS PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, AND I TECHNICALLY HAVE NO NO AUTHORITY TO, TO DECIDE WHAT GOES ON THERE, UH, IF YOU, IF YOU DON'T WANT ME TO KICK UP A FUSS AND, AND HAVE THE SHEROS REMOVED LATER, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER IN ADVANCE.

AND SO I I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT, IT CAN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO DO IS TO THINK ABOUT WHAT CAN HAPPEN OVERNIGHT, WHAT CAN WE DO QUICKLY THAT'S GOING TO ADVANCE SAFETY FOR CYCLISTS, UM, THAT IS NOT GOING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, KICK UP A WELL, WHO KNOWS, MAYBE, MAYBE IT IS RISKY IN TERMS OF PUBLIC PERCEPTION, BUT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING, UH, SOMETHING HAPPEN SOONER THAN LATER.

MAYBE NOT EVERYTHING, UH, BUT I, I THINK WE HAVE TO DO, UH, SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT THAT IMPROVES BASICALLY IN, IN THE NEAR TERM.

SO I CHALLENGE YOU TO, TO GIVE US SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, ON THAT.

UH, I ALSO WANNA GO BACK TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AND, UH, WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE UPDATED, AND I, I UNDERSTAND ROD, UH, THE CONNECTION WITH THE BOND, YOU, YOU THINK IT CAN, THE BOND CAN MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT ANY OF THE U D C, UH, UPDATES BEING FINALIZED.

SO I, UH, I GOT YOU ON THAT.

WHAT, WHAT I WOULDN'T WANT TO DO IS LOSE THE OPPORTUNITY IN UPDATING THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A SPIKE FRIENDLIER CITY IN SAN ANTONIO.

WHAT DO THOSE MODIFICATIONS TO THE DEVELOPMENT CODE LOOK LIKE? ARE THERE SOME BEST PRACTICES FROM OTHER PLACES? AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAY NOT HAVE TO WAIT, WAIT UNTIL THE FULL BIKE MASTER PLAN IS DONE, BUT THAT WE CAN INTEGRATE INTO THE UDC UPDATE PROCESS SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER FIVE YEARS, UH, TO, TO BRING THAT FORWARD.

UM, AND I SEE NODS.

ALRIGHT, THAT MEANS, UH, IS THAT, COULD THOSE BE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT GO TO THE, TO THE PC TAC, THE PLANNING COMMISSION? YES, SURE.

TAMIKA HAS ALREADY HAD A FEW CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH MIKE SHANNON, SO YES, ABSOLUTELY.

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WE'RE GONNA START THE WHOLE PROCESS ALL OVER AGAIN, AND EVERYBODY'S GONNA GET TO SUBMIT THEIR AMENDMENTS, AND, UH, HOPEFULLY, UH, WITH A LITTLE BIT OF LUCK, WE CAN GET THIS STARTED IN THE FALL.

SO, UH, TAMIKA WILL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO, TO WORK WITH MIKE SHANNON ON, UH, WHAT SHE THINKS ARE APPROPRIATE AMENDMENTS, UH, TO INCLUDE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND, UM, GOING BACK TO THE, THE C C R, THAT, THAT WAS PROPOSED BY THE COUNCILWOMAN, THERE WAS A, SOMETHING IN THERE REQUESTING, UM, METRICS FOR OUR COMMITTEE TO ASSESS THE APPLICATION OF COMPLETE STREETS AND VISION ZERO GUIDANCE, UM, IN ELIMINATING TRAFFIC FATALITIES AND INCORPORATING THEM INTO THE APPROVED CITY BUDGETING PROCESS.

W WHAT WAS THE STATUS ON, ON THAT PART OF THE, OF THE C C R? SO WHEN IT COMES TO VISION ZERO, WE KEEP TRACK OF THE DATA FROM THE CRASH FATALITIES AND COMING UP WITH METRICS.

IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT IN TERMS OF VISION ZERO TO COME UP WITH METRICS, BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE DEVELOPING PERFORMANCE METRICS, YOU HAVE TO START WITH A BASELINE.

SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FATALITIES AND THOSE INJURIES, I ACTUALLY, HOLD ON, OH, GO AHEAD.

I THINK I, I, I THINK I MISREAD THAT IT'S METRICS FOR ASSESSING THE APPLICATION OF COMPLETE STREETS AND VISION ZERO GUIDANCE, RIGHT? SO VISION ZERO GUIDANCE, THE WAY WE MEASURE NOW, AND THIS IS A DIFFERENCE, WE'RE A NEW DEPARTMENT, SO OUR PERFORMANCE METRICS THAT WE'RE DEVELOPING FOR VISION ZERO IS WE ARE ESTABLISHING A CERTAIN NUMBER OF EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES THAT WE WILL ENGAGE IN SAFETY AND EDUCATION ACTIVITIES THAT WILL BE UTILIZED AS OUR PERFORMANCE METRICS.

SO THE NUMBER OF EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES THAT WE DO TO ENGAGE THE PUBLIC AND EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ABOUT VISION ZERO WILL BE A METRIC FOR THAT.

IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT WITH, YOU CAN MEASURE IT, BUT YOU CAN'T MANAGE IT BECAUSE THAT'S VISION ZERO.

WHEN IT COMES TO COMPLETE STREETS, AGAIN, AS A NEW DEPARTMENT, WE DON'T HAVE A BASELINE.

SO HOW WE EVALUATE OUR APPLICATION OF COMPLETE STREETS PRACTICES, IT REALLY COMES FROM LOOKING AT STREETS THAT WERE NOT COMPLETE STREETS AND THEN ESTABLISHING WHAT A BASELINE IS.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BASELINE, YOU HAVE TO SAY THIS IS A COMPLETE STREET, BUT IT'S DIFFICULT TO REALLY QUANTIFY AND DEVELOP PERFORMANCE METRICS FOR A POLICY GUIDE.

SO I THINK I UNDERSTAND THE SPIRIT OF PERFORMANCE METRICS, BUT THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE DIFFICULT TO MEASURE UNLESS YOU ESTABLISH WHAT YOUR BASELINE IS AND WHAT YOU WILL ACCOMPLISH ANNUALLY.

AND THEN THAT'S GONNA VARY BASED ON THE TYPE OF ROADWAY IN THE PROJECT.

SO YOU HAVE TO START WITH THE NUMBER, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO MANAGE YOUR ABILITY TO ACTUALLY DO IT.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO MEASURE SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO MEASURE.

AND I'LL DEFER TO ANTHONY AND DAVID, AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE? I'M GONNA JUMP IN.

UM, I, SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS IT'S HARD, WE DON'T HAVE A BASELINE.

IT'S HARD.

SO I, WHAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS WHO'S GOING TO ESTABLISH THE BASELINE? I THINK THE DIRECTION FROM THE C C R WAS FAST, DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO GIVE US METRICS.

UH, SO THAT'S, MAYBE THAT'S A QUESTION FOR ROD.

WHEN DO WE GET THE BASELINE? YEAH, LET ME WORK WITH TAMIKA AND OUR FOLKS AT PUBLIC WORKS, UH, AND WE WILL BE BACK AT OUR NEXT COMMITTEE, AND WE'LL GIVE YOU, UH, KIND OF A SCHEDULE AS TO WHEN WE THINK WE CAN HAVE THIS.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

BECAUSE UNTIL THEN, THE ONLY THING WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE ARE THE FATALITIES.

AND, AND I DON'T THINK THAT TELLS THE FULL STORY.

IT TELLS A VERY TRAGIC STORY, BUT NOT THE FULL STORY OF THE PRO OF ANY PROGRESS THAT'S BEING MADE.

SO, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH CHAIR FOR, FOR INDULGING ME WITH, WITH THOSE QUESTIONS.

UH, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK.

OH, I SEE DAVID MACBETH IS, IS RAISING HIS HAND.