* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:11] YES. THANK YOU. HI, WELCOME EVERYONE TO OUR ECONOMIC AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. COMMITTEE MEETING THIS, UH, JUNE ONE, TUESDAY 2021. HAPPY JUNE EVERYBODY. UM, GLAD TO HAVE IT HERE. AND WE ARE THE INAUGURAL COUNCIL COMMITTEE IN PERSON IN THIS CITY HALL BUILDING. SO, UH, HERE WE ARE. GREAT. SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE ROLE, PLEASE. COUNCIL MEMBER PALIS HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER CAVEDA HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ, PRESIDENT COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA HERE AND CHAIR HERE. WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU. WONDERFUL. WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. AND WELCOME. UH, WE EVEN HAVE VISITORS HERE TODAY IN, IN THE ROOM PRESENT. SO THIS IS VERY EXCITING. UH, [1. 21-4175 Approval of the minutes from the Economic and Workforce Development Committee meeting on April 22, 2021. ] WE'LL HAVE THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDAS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE ECONOMIC AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETING ON APRIL 22ND, 2021. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FROM THE FLOOR OR ANY DISCUSSION. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE APRIL 22ND, 2021 MINUTES. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. POST SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. I STILL LIFT UP MY HAND EVERY TIME I SAY I TOO. , UH, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO, MA'AM. NO PUBLIC COMMENTS. [2. 21-4011 Briefing on recommended updates to the City’s economic development incentive guidelines. [Alejandra Lopez; Assistant City Manager and Interim Director, Economic Development] ] ALL RIGHT. WELL THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO A VERY EXCITING AGENDA TODAY, AND WE'LL START WITH NUMBER ITEM NUMBER TWO, A BRIEFING ON RECOMMENDED UPDATES TO THE CITY'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES GUIDELINES. ALEX? YES, THANK YOU, CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. UM, JUSTINA TATE, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, WILL BE MAKING THE PRESENTATION ALONG WITH JOHN HOCKS, WHO'S A CONSULTANT THAT, UM, HELPED US WITH SOME OF THE RESEARCH AND SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS. SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO THEM. WELCOME, WELCOME TO ME, . WELCOME TO YOU. SORRY, THAT WAS A BAD REFLEX. ACTION. HI. JUST IN CASE YOU GUYS AREN'T CLEAR, I'M JOHN, THAT'S JUSTINA IN CASE. SO I'M GONNA START OFF A LITTLE BIT WITH SOME CONTEXT HERE. SUMMARY OF THE FINDINGS THAT WE DID, WE DID A FAIR AMOUNT OF WALKING AND TALKING IN THE COMMUNITY. AND IN PARTICULAR, WE SPENT A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME TALKING TO PRACTITIONERS WHO WERE INVOLVED IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HERE IN THE SAN ANTONIO REGION AND GOT THEIR FEEDBACK. AND THEN FOR THOSE OF YOU, MR HAS HAD THE, THE MISFORTUNE OF KNOWING ME FOR A LONG TIME AND KNOWING WHAT WE DO, WE ALSO DO A LOT OF THIS KIND OF WORK IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLACES. AND SO WE BROUGHT SOME OF THAT PROFESSIONAL EXPERTISE AND CONTEXT TO THIS AS WELL. SO RIGHT OFF THE BAT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S REALLY INTERESTING ABOUT HOW WE DO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN TEXAS IN COMPARISON TO MOST OTHER STATES WE COMPETE WITH IS THAT THE, THAT THE STATE ITSELF ACTUALLY IS LARGELY UNINVOLVED. AND THAT'S JUST GOTTEN WORSE IN SOME WAYS FROM MY POINT OF VIEW WITH THE FAILURE TO EXTEND CHAPTER THREE 13, WHICH ARE THE DEFACTO SCHOOL TAX INCENTIVES JUST DONE BY THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE. I AM IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW OF WORKING WITH A COMPANY WHO WAS TRYING TO DETERMINE WHERE TO LOCATE A BILLION DOLLAR BATTERY MANUFACTURING PLANT. AND THEN WE WERE COMPETING A SITE EAST OF HOUSTON, A SITE IN THE PHOENIX, SCOTTSDALE AREA, AND A SITE NEAR JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA. AND THEY KEPT SAYING TO ME, HOW COME THE STATE ISN'T OFFERING US MORE MONEY? AND THEY KEPT TELLING 'EM, BECAUSE THE STATE OF TEXAS, WE IMPOSE RELATIVELY LITTLE TAXES ON PEOPLE STATEWIDE. AND SO WE DON'T HAVE TO ABATE OR WE DON'T HAVE TO INCENTIVIZE THAT MUCH. WE RELY ON A VERY LOW TAX ENVIRONMENT FROM THE STATE. AND THEN WE LOOK TO OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES TO DO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE RELATIVELY SPEAKING, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TAX BURDEN IS HIGHER AT THE LOCAL LEVEL IN TEXAS THAN IT IS IN MANY OTHER STATES. AND THAT'S WHY THIS POLICY AND SORT OF THIS EFFORTS HERE BY THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ARE SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD FOR MANY COMPANIES, PARTICULARLY THOSE THAT ARE CAPITAL INTENSIVE. SO THAT'S ONE SORT OF CONTEXTUAL THING TOO. TAX INCENTIVES TYPICALLY ARE THE TAIL, NOT THE DOG. I MEAN, THE DOG IS, WHAT'S YOUR WORKFORCE LOOK LIKE? WHAT'S YOUR CONNECTION TO LOCAL SUPPLIERS? WHAT'S YOUR COLLECTION TO MARKETS? YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS? ALL THE SORT OF FUNDAMENTALS THAT GO INTO RUNNING YOUR BUSINESS, WHATEVER IT IS. HAVING SAID THAT, FOR LARGE, PARTICULARLY RELOCATIONS, A LOT OF TIMES THERE ARE SEVERAL VIABLE CONTENDING SITES. AND THEN TAX INCENTIVES MATTER MORE. THEY MATTER MORE IN A TIE BREAK KIND OF SITUATION THAN THEY DO IN TERMS OF WHEN COMPANIES ARE FIRST THINKING ABOUT WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO TO POTENTIALLY EXPAND MORE AND MORE AND MORE. THE VALUE PROPOSITION FOR MOST COMPANIES IS A WHOLE LOT LESS [00:05:01] ABOUT BEING LOCATED NEXT TO THE SAWMILL. AND A WHOLE LOT MORE ABOUT WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE HAVE YOU GOT, WHAT KIND OF TRAINING HAVE THEY GOT, HOW THICK AND HOW DEEP IS YOUR LABOR FORCE? HOW MUCH CAPACITY DOES YOUR LABOR FORCE HAVE? HOW QUICKLY CAN PEOPLE BE BROUGHT UP TO SPEED? SO WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND TRAINING ARE, I THINK, INCREASINGLY IMPORTANT IN THINKING ABOUT ALL THIS. AND I THINK IT'S ENCOURAGING, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS PUTTING EMPHASIS ON ALL THAT BECAUSE THAT IN MANY WAYS IS THE RAW MATERIAL OF THE MODERN ECONOMY. AND THEN THE LAST KIND OF THING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IN THIS EQUATION IS THAT MORE AND MORE AND MORE, JUST AS IT'S ABOUT PEOPLE, PEOPLE CAN KIND OF BE ANYWHERE. WE HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF TALKING TO A FIRM THAT'S HEADQUARTERED IN SAN ANTONIO, SMALL FIRM TECHNOLOGY FIRM, 36 EMPLOYEES, 28 OF THEM DIDN'T LIVE IN TEXAS AND DON'T LIVE IN TEXAS. THAT'S A TWO-WAY STREET. SO YOU CAN HAVE A FIRM THAT'S HEADQUARTERED HERE AND SAYS, HEY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE SCATTERED LITERALLY ALL OVER THE WORLD, BUT THEY'RE HEADQUARTERED HERE. CONVERSELY, YOU CAN HAVE PEOPLE WORKING AND LIVING IN SAN ANTONIO SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M COLLECTING A PAYCHECK FROM GOOGLE AND I'M TECHNICALLY BASED IN THE BAY AREA, BUT SAN ANTONIO'S A WHOLE LOT BETTER VALUE PROPOSITION FOR ME AS THE PLACE WHERE I WANNA LIVE AND WORK AND RAISE MY FAMILY. AND SO HOW ALL THAT TRANSLATES IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS PLACE MATTERS, PLACE MATTERS A LOT. AND I KNOW YOU GUYS KNOW THAT. I KNOW THE REGIONAL CENTER CONCEPT IN PART SPEAKS TO THAT. I THINK THAT BUILDING ON THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT IN THINKING ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SO SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT INCENTIVES, THERE ARE KIND OF THREE BIG FACTORS HERE THAT I THINK SORT OF COME TOGETHER AND CREATE A FRAMEWORK FOR US TO THINK ABOUT DEVELOPING INCENTIVES. ONE, OF COURSE, IS JUST THE NEED TO BE COMPETITIVE. YOU'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE WITH OTHER PEOPLE. NOW THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO GO OUT AND DO BAD DEALS BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE IS WILLING TO DO A BAD DEAL. I'VE SEEN SO MANY BAD DEALS, AND IN PARTICULAR, ONE OF THE WORST DEALS PEOPLE CAN DO IS THROW A LOT OF MONEY AT SOMEBODY ON THE HOPE AND EXPECTATION THAT THEY'LL PERFORM WHEN THEY DON'T PERFORM, THEN YOU HAVE A VERY CHALLENGING PROCESS OF GETTING THE MONEY BACK. SO YOU HAVE TO BE COMPETITIVE, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO SORT OF DO IT SMARTLY. YOU HAVE TO REALLY LOOK CAREFULLY AT WHAT ARE THE NET POSITIVES TO THE COMMUNITY. AND THE NET POSITIVES IS MEASURED BY THE ECONOMIC IMPLICATIONS, BUT ALSO BY THE FISCAL IMPLICATIONS. AND THAT'S ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT FOR A COMMUNITY LIKE SAN ANTONIO WHERE YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR TAX BASE, WHERE YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO PAY FOR BASIC CIVIC SERVICES. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE ALWAYS SUGGEST TO PEOPLE IS THE FIRST THING YOU DO WHEN YOU ARE CONTEMPLATING AN INCENTIVE IS DO A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS. FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH MONEY THEY'RE GONNA BRING IN. FIGURE OUT WHAT IT'S GONNA COST YOU TO SERVE THEM, NOT ONLY IN TERMS OF DIRECT EXPENDITURES, MAYBE YOU HAVE TO DO A NEW CREW CURB CUT, MAYBE YOU HAVE TO EXPAND THE UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT ALSO WHAT'S GONNA COST IN TERMS OF MORE POLICE, MORE FIRE, MORE CITY SERVICES WRIT LARGE, TAKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO. AND THAT'S THE BASE. YOU START OFF IN THINKING ABOUT INCENTIVES. SO YOU'VE ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR YOUR COSTS MOST OF THE TIME WHEN YOU ARE THEN CONTEMPLATING HOW MUCH COULD YOU POTENTIALLY RETURN TO SOMEBODY ON AN INCENTIVE BASIS. AND THEN ONE THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MORE AND MORE AND MORE IS THE BROADER COMMUNITY CONTEXT. THERE IS A STRONG SENSE OUT THERE THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AS IT'S BEEN PRACTICED, IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT INADEQUATE FOR MANY ELEMENTS OF OUR COMMUNITIES. AND THIS ISN'T TRUE IN SAN ANTONIO, IT'S TRUE IN A LOT OF OTHER PLACES. WE'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS A LOT. I'M DOING SOME WORK RIGHT NOW WITH THE, UH, THE FOUR MINORITY CHAMBERS IN AUSTIN. WE HAVE A HISPANIC CHAMBER, AN AFRICAN AMERICAN CHAMBER, AN ASIAN CHAMBER, AND THEN AN L G B T Q CHAMBER. AND WE ARE TRYING TO DEFINE WHAT EQUITY IS, WHAT IS EQUITABLE MEAN? AND WHAT WE'VE KIND OF COME UP COLLECTIVELY WITH IS TRYING TO REMOVE OBSTACLES TO OPPORTUNITY, NOT NECESSARILY GUARANTEEING OUTCOMES, BUT TRYING TO DO A BETTER JOB OF LEVELING THE PLAYING FIELD SO THAT EVERYBODY HAS THEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO RISE A FALL. IT'S AN IMPORTANT CONVERSATION. I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S THE DEFINITIVE ANSWER. I'M SAYING WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT THIS AND HOW IT TRANSLATES. OFTENTIMES THERE ARE GEOGRAPHIC CONSIDERATIONS TO IT, HOW IT SPREAD THROUGH THE COMMUNITY. THERE ARE SOCIOECONOMIC CONSIDERATIONS AROUND THINGS LIKE ACCESS TO CAPITAL AROUND, FOR EXAMPLE, BEING MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH INCENTIVES FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA EMPLOY THOSE WHO'VE BEEN TRADITIONALLY HARD TO EMPLOY AT GOOD WAGES. I'M SAYING WE NEED TO BE CONSCIOUS OF ALL THIS. AND I KNOW I'M PREACHING TO THE CHOIR. I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO AT LEAST ARTICULATE IT. SO SOME, AGAIN, SOME OF THESE THEMES, UM, I JUST WENT THROUGH SOME OF THEM. ONE OF THE THINGS THOUGH THAT I WANNA WANNA HIGHLIGHT JUST A LITTLE BIT IN THIS COUPLE [00:10:01] THINGS, ONE IS CLARITY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TRY REALLY HARD TO DO WHEN WE ARE DESIGNING THESE KINDS OF INCENTIVE POLICIES IS TO LET FIRMS KNOW HOW WE'RE GONNA GRADE THEIR PAPER. SO WE'RE NOT GONNA TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT THE SCORES ARE, ARE GONNA BE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SCORING SYSTEM, BUT WE ARE GONNA TELL YOU THE KINDS OF QUESTIONS WE'RE GONNA WANNA KNOW THE ANSWERS TO. WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU TO MAKE YOUR CASE TO US WHY YOU DESERVE AN INCENTIVE. AND SO THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO THEN TELL US ABOUT WHAT YOUR ECONOMIC IMPACT'S GONNA BE. WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ARE YOU GOING TO EMPLOY? WHAT KIND OF OPPORTUNITIES ARE THERE GONNA BE FOR ADVANCEMENT WITHIN THE FIRM? WHAT ARE YOUR DIVERSITY POLICIES? HOW ARE YOU GONNA BE A STRONG CORPORATE CITIZEN THAT ENCOURAGES BOTH THE COMPANY AND INDIVIDUALS WHO WORK THERE TO BE ACTIVE PARTICIPANTS IN THE PHILANTHROPIC SIDE OF THE COMMUNITY? A LOT OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS, WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU THESE QUESTIONS AND WE WANT TO HEAR YOUR ANSWERS BECAUSE THAT HELPS US THEN BETTER UNDERSTAND WHO YOU ARE AS A COMPANY AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE THE RIGHT KIND OF FIT FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. SO CLARITY'S IMPORTANT. I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF TARGETED INDUSTRIES PER SE. I'M A BIG FAN OF THINKING HARD ABOUT WHO YOU'RE GOING AFTER. BUT I WANNA REALLY UNDERSTAND AN INDIVIDUAL COMPANY MORE THAN THE INDUSTRY. 'CAUSE I'D MUCH RATHER DO A DEAL, AND THIS IS MY OWN OPINION. I'D MUCH RATHER DO A DEAL WITH THE BEST COMPANY IN AN INDUSTRY THAT'S FACING SOME CHALLENGES THAN THE WORST COMPANY IN A GROWING INDUSTRY. YOU WANT US JUST BE FLEXIBLE WITH. THAT IS ALL I'M SAYING. YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T MISS AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S IN THE WRONG INDUSTRY. THEY MAY HAVE A NEW NICHE, THEY MAY HAVE A PRODUCT, THEY MAY BE DOING SOMETHING SPECIAL OR DIFFERENT. YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT MISSING AN OPPORTUNITY. AND THEN IT'S IMPLICIT IN A LOT OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. BUT INCENTIVES ARE JUST A PIECE OF YOUR BROADER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POLICY. AND DARN NEAR EVERYTHING CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DOES AFFECTS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. YOUR PUBLIC SAFETY AFFECTS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. YOUR PARKS AND RECREATION AFFECT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AFFECTS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND SO I I JUST URGE YOU AS YOU THINK ABOUT INCENTIVES TO SEE IT AS BEING PART OF THIS BIGGER PICTURE ALONG THE WAY. SO THEN ESSENTIALLY, I JUST KIND OF TEASE UP THIS FRAMEWORK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND THEN JUSTINA WILL GET INTO THE DETAILS. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS CREATE A FRAMEWORK THAT GIVES YOU A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY, GIVES DIFFERENT COMPANIES DIFFERENT PATHS TO ULTIMATELY BE WORTHY OF AN INCENTIVE AND TO CALIBRATE WHAT THAT INCENTIVE SHOULD BE THAT MAKES, THAT IS EXPLICITLY CONSCIOUS OF THE FACT THAT ALMOST EVERY DEAL'S DIFFERENT. AND IT'S HARD IN THIS DAY AND AGE TO PIGEONHOLE EVERYTHING AND DO IT MECHANICALLY. YOU'RE GONNA MISS OPPORTUNITIES IF YOU DO THAT. WE THINK IF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT FRAMEWORK, WHICH ALLOWS YOU, AGAIN, TO ASSESS THE OVERALL NATURE AND SCOPE OF BENEFITS. WE'VE HAD SOME SUGGESTIONS ON MODIFYING THE CITY'S WAGE REQUIREMENT TO ADD, TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE NUANCED TO SAY, YES, THERE DOES NEED TO BE A FLOOR, BUT THEN WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT THE WAGES A FIRM IS PAYING RELATIVE TO THE WAGES BEING PAID IN THAT OCCUPATION IN SAN ANTONIO. BECAUSE SOMETIMES IF YOU HAVE A ONE SIZE FITS ALL WAGE REQUIREMENT, SOMETIMES IT'S TOO HIGH, SOMETIMES IT'S TOO LOW, YOU KNOW. AND SO AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THAT A LITTLE MORE NUANCED. AND WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO BUILD IS WE'RE CALLING IT AN EVALUATION MATRIX OR A FRAMEWORK WHERE THE DETAILS CAN BE ADOPTED, CAN BE ADJUSTED AS TIME GOES BY, BUT YOU CAN ALWAYS WORK OFF OF THAT FRAMEWORK. AND FOR EXAMPLE, JUST AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT WE DID. I DID THIS FOR AUSTIN ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO. THE DETAILS HAVE CHANGED A LOT OVER 20 YEARS, BUT THE BASIC FRAMEWORK HAS MORE OR LESS STAYED THE SAME. SO WITH THAT, I WILL PASS IT OVER. DO YOU WANNA JUST SWITCH CHAIRS? NO, YOU'RE GOOD. YOU DO NEED THAT THOUGH. YEAH, THANKS AND THANK YOU, JOHN. SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE FOCUSING ON TODAY IS OUR TOTAL ECONOMIC INCENTIVE GUIDELINES. SO THIS INCLUDES CHAPTER THREE 12 TAX ABATEMENTS, CHAPTER THREE 80 AGREEMENTS, AS WELL AS A NEW, UH, CATEGORY OR PROGRAM, A SMALL BUSINESS CHAPTER THREE 80 GRANT. SO THE NEXT SLIDE PROVIDES SOME COMPARISON ON WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE OR WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING THEM TO BE. SO THE SECOND COLUMN IS OUR CURRENT REQUIREMENTS FOR GUIDELINES. SO THIS INCLUDES JOB REQUIREMENT OR CAPITAL INVESTMENT WAGES, HEALTHCARE BENEFIT PACKAGES, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, EQUAL PAY, AND OTHER. SO WITH THIS RE REVISION, WE WOULD RECOMMEND DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS FOR CHAPTER THREE 12 AND A THREE 80. SO WITH A CHAPTER THREE 12, IF A, A COMPANY IS, WOULD BE ELIGIBLE, OR THEY MUST MEET THE REQUIREMENT OF 50 JOBS AND A $200 MILLION INVESTMENT, THIS REQUIREMENT, UH, WOULD MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR A TAX ABATEMENT AGREEMENT AS THE CITY ABATES BOTH THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY TAX [00:15:01] AS WELL AS OUR DEBT PORTION. SO THIS REQUIREMENT MAKES IT HARDER TO BE, UH, ELIGIBLE FOR THIS. HOWEVER, WITH THE THREE 80, WE WOULD RECOMMEND KEEPING IT AT THE 50 JOBS OR THE $10 MILLION AS A REMINDER IN A REBATE, THE CITY ONLY ABATES OR REBATES THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE PORTION. IN TERMS OF THE WAGES, AND JOHN ALLUDED TO THIS EARLIER, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE INCREASE THE FLOOR TO $15. SO ALL UH, EMPLOYEES WOULD MUST BE PAID $15 AN HOUR. AND WE WOULD RECOMMEND INCREASING THE PERCENT THAT MEETS THE ALL INDUSTRY WAGE FROM 70% TO 75%. BUT KEEPING IT TIED TO THAT ALL INDUSTRY WAGE, THERE WOULD BE NO CHANGES TO THE REQUIREMENTS ON HEALTH BENEFITS PACKAGES THAT THE COMPANY WOULD HAVE TO, UM, WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE TO THEIR EMPLOYEES. HOWEVER, WE ARE RECOMMENDING SOME CHANGES TO OUR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENT. SO AS YOU MAY RECALL, IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, WE HAD ADDED A WORKFORCE REQUIREMENT IN THE, IN, UH, IN THE TAX ABATEMENT GUIDELINES. WE ARE RECOMMENDING, UM, A TO CHANGE THAT AND SET A REQUIREMENT THAT A COMPANY MUST HIRE 15% OF THEIR EMPLOYEES FROM THE READY TO WORK PROGRAM. NOW UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE SOME COMPANIES THAT READY TO WORK MAY NOT MEET THEIR REQUIREMENTS 'CAUSE THEY ARE LOOKING FOR MORE PHDS OR MASTER'S LEVEL PROGRAMS FOR THESE COMPANIES, THEY WOULD NEED TO CREATE SOME TYPE OF INTERNSHIP OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE READY TO WORK PARTICIPANTS. SO THEY GAIN THAT EXPERIENCE AS THEY MOVE ON AND TRY AS, AS THEY MOVE ON FROM THAT INTERNSHIP TO GET A A FULL-TIME JOB WITH EQUAL PAY. WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT COMPANIES HAVE IN PLACE GENDER PAY PARITY PRACTICES IN THEIR WORKPLACE. AND FINALLY, UM, WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING IS THAT THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES HIRED FROM SAN ANTONIO THAT THIS BE INCLUDED OUR, IN OUR EVALUATION CRITERIA THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT IN THE NEXT COUPLE SLIDES. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE EVALUATION CRITERIA, IT THIS WOULD DETERMINE THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT AS WELL AS THE PERCENTAGE OF THE AGREEMENT. SO THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT WOULD BE BASED UPON THE LOCATION OF THE COMPANY AND THE, UM, THE, THE PERCENTAGE OF THE ABATEMENT WOULD BE BASED UPON THREE EVALUATION CRITERIA TO INCLUDE ECONOMIC BENEFIT, CHARACTER OF THE JOBS AND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPACT. SO FOR THE LENGTH OF THE AGREEMENT FOR BOTH CHAPTER THREE 12 AND THREE 80, WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO SHIFT FOCUS. CURRENTLY, THE INCLUSIVE GROWTH AREA IS WHAT WE USE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LENGTH OF THE AGREEMENT. AND WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS TO SHIFT THAT FOCUS TO USING THE EQUITY MATRIX AS WELL AS REGIONAL CENTERS. SO WITH THIS, IF, IF A COMPANY IS LOCATING IN A, IN AN AREA WITH AN E EQUITY MATRIX OF A SCORE FROM TWO TO FIVE, THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR UP TO A FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT FOR BOTH THREE 12 AND THREE EIGHTY'S. HOWEVER, IF THEY'RE LOC LOCATED IN AN AREA WITH AN E EQUITY MATRIX OF SIX TO 10, THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR UP TO 10 YEARS FOR THREE 12 AND UP TO 15 YEARS FOR A THREE 80 AGREEMENT. ADDITIONALLY, IF ON TOP OF THAT THEY'RE IN, IN INSIDE OF A REGIONAL CENTER, THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR AN ADDITIONAL TWO YEARS. NOW, I DO WANNA REMIND, UM, THE COMMITTEE THAT A CHAPTER THREE 12 BY STATE LAW CAN ONLY BE 10 YEARS, BUT WE HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY WITH A REBATE. ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WE'LL BE FOCUSING ON OUR, THE PERCENT OF THE ABATEMENT OR THE REBATE. SO WITH THIS, WE'LL BE MOVING FROM QUALITY, UM, SORRY, QUALIFYING PRIORITIES TO AN EVALUATION CRITERIA. SO AS A REMINDER, THE CURRENT, UH, PERCENT ABATEMENT IS DETERMINED BY THE NUMBER OF QUALITY PRI OF QUAL QUALIFYING PRIORITIES THAT A COMPANY MEETS. AND THESE INCLUDE TARGETED INDUSTRY, HIGH WAGES, INTERNSHIPS, INCLUSIVE HIRING AND PARTNERSHIP OPTIONS. SO THAT'S HOW IT'S CURRENTLY ESTABLISHED. RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS WE PUT IN PLACE AN EVALUATION CRITERIA AND EACH COMPANY WOULD BE EVALUATED BASED UPON THESE THREE CATEGORIES, ECONOMIC IMPACT, CHARACTER OF JOBS AND INFRASTRUCTURE. AND BASED ON THE COMPANY'S RESPONSES, THEY WOULD BE, UH, SCORED, EITHER DOES NOT MEET ACCEPTABLE OR EXCELLENT. AND WITH THIS, THEY WOULD, UM, THEY, WE WOULD, UM, THEY WOULD BE EVALUATED BASED UPON POINTS. AND THE HIGHER THE POINTS, THE HIGHER THE PERCENT OF ABATEMENT OR REBATE THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR. SO WHAT TYPES OF QUESTIONS WOULD WE BE ASKING? SO WITH THE ECONOMIC, UH, BENEFIT CATEGORY, AGAIN, THE COMPANIES WOULD BE EVALUATED BASED UPON THEIR RESPONSES TO THESE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS. IF THE COMPANY IS IN A TARGETED INDUSTRY WITHIN SAN ANTONIO, IF THEY'RE BRINGING THEIR HEADQUARTERS TO SAN ANTONIO OR ESTABLISHING THEIR HEADQUARTERS, [00:20:01] IF THE PROJECT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO SEED NEW CLUSTER OR BRING MORE FIRMS TO THE CITY, AND IF THEY ARE COMMITTED TO CREATING SIGNIFICANT OPPORTUNITIES TO CONTRACT WITH LOCAL FIRMS, UM, INCLUDING SMALL AND DISADVANTAGES DISADVANTAGED BUSINESSES. AND FINALLY, IF THE NEW PROJECT INCLUDES A NEW PRODUCTION LINE OR NEW SERVICE IN TERMS OF CHARACTER AND JOBS OR, AND THE LABOR FORCE, WE WOULD BE EVALUATING THE COMPANY BASED UPON THEIR RESPONSES TO, UM, IF THEY WOULD HIRE 50% OF THEIR NEW HIRES FROM SAN ANTONIO, IF THEY WOULD PAY 50% OF THEIR EMPLOYEES, UM, AT LEAST THE BEX COUNTY AVERAGE WEEKLY WAGE, WHICH IS ABOUT $56,000 CURRENTLY. ADDITIONALLY, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT WHAT TYPES OF TRAINING THEY PROVIDE, WHAT TYPES, WHAT TYPES OF OPPORTUNITIES THEY PROVIDE FOR ADVANCEMENT, AS WELL AS IF THE COMPANY ACTIVELY PROMOTES DIVERSITY IN HIRING AS WELL AS PROMOTION. WE WOULD ALSO BE LOOKING AT IF THE, UH, PROJECT OR IF THE COMPANY HIRES POPULATIONS WITH EMPLOYMENT BARRIERS. AND FINALLY, WHAT TYPES OF OTHER BENEFITS DO THEY PROVIDE THEIR EMPLOYEES PAID LEAVE HEALTH AND WELLNESS BENEFITS, AND WHAT OTHER BENEFITS ARE THEY PROVIDING TO THEIR EMPLOYEES? AND THE FINAL CATEGORIES ARE INFRASTRUCTURE. IT'S RECOMMENDED THAT WE ATTEMPT TO EVALUATE THE IMPACT OF A PROJECT ON OUR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALSO LOOK AT IF THE COMPANY, OR IF THE PROJECT INCLUDES SOME TYPE OF PUBLIC BENEFIT, LIKE A PUBLIC PARK OR A TRAIL THAT THE PUB THAT OUR COMMUNITY WOULD BE ABLE TO USE AS WELL. SO THOSE ARE THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF CRITERIA THAT WE WOULD BE, UM, EVALUATING A COMPANY ON. AND THIS NEXT SLIDE ILLUSTRATES THE TYPE OF THE PERCENT OF EITHER AN ABATEMENT OR REBATE THAT A COMPANY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR. SO I'M GONNA START IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SLIDE WITH A ABATEMENT FOR PROPERTY TAXES. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF THROUGH THAT EVALUATION, THE THE COMPANY RECEIVES A SCORE OF 50%, THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR UP TO A 50% TAX ABATEMENT. IF IT IS AN EXCEPTIONAL PROJECT WITH EXCELLENT ANSWERS, UM, THEY WOULD RECEIVE, THEY COULD RECEIVE UP TO A HUNDRED PO POINTS AND RECEIVE UP TO A HUNDRED PERCENT PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT. IN TERMS OF THE REBATE. UM, A COMPANY THAT SCORED 60 POINTS OR ABOVE, THEY WOULD STILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE 60%. AND THAT'S IN LINE WITH THE, THE REBATE OF JUST OUR PROPERTY TAX FOR THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE SIDE, THE CITY WOULD KEEP THE DEBT PORTION OF, OF THAT PROPERTY TAX. AND FINALLY, A, A COMPANY COULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR A PER JOB GRANT. SO THIS IS A NEW, UM, A NEW CATEGORY. SO WITH THIS, A COMPANY THAT RECEIVES 60 TO 79 POINTS COULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR A GRANT VALUED AT 3% OF THE ANNUAL WAGES. AND IF THEY RECEIVE 80 POINTS OR OVER, THEY COULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR 5% OF THEIR ANNUAL WAGES. NOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE TIED TO INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY MAY HAVE. UM, BUT I DO WANNA NOTE THAT THIS WOULD BE CAPPED AT $1,500 PER JOB. SO WE WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME EXAMPLES, AND I'LL GO THROUGH THESE, UM, QUICKLY. SO OUR FIRST ONE IS A COMPANY ALPHA. SO THEY DO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS, UM, WITH THIS, WITH WHERE THEY'RE LOCATING, THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR A 15 YEAR REBATE. HOWEVER, AS WE START TO GET INTO THE CRITERIA, WE FIND THAT THEY DON'T MEET MANY, UH, THEY DON'T MEET ANY OF THE ECONOMIC, UH, BENEFIT CRITERIA. SO THEY'RE NOT A TARGETED INDUSTRY, THEY'RE NOT A HEADQUARTER. THEY DON'T HAVE THAT POTENTIAL TO BRING NEW BUSINESSES OR NEW CLUSTERS TO SAN ANTONIO, AND THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO COMMIT TO CONTRACTING WITH LOCAL FIRMS. IN TERMS OF THE LABOR FORCE, UM, THEY DO MEET SOME OF THEIR CRITERIA IN TERMS OF THEY DO TARGET HARD, HARD TO HIRE POPULATIONS, AND THEY DO PROVIDE A BENEFITS PACKAGE. HOWEVER, ONLY 15% OF FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES MAKE OVER 56,000, AND THEY'RE ONLY ANTICIPATING TO HIRE ABOUT 40% FROM SAN ANTONIO. AND FINALLY, IN TERMS OF INFRASTRUCTURE, THE COMPANY IS LEASING A PRE-EXISTING SPACE THAT'S CODED AS HEAVY, UH, INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. SO WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE AN AN IMPACT ON THE CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS AROUND THE AREA. ON THE SECOND EXAMPLE IS A DRUG MANUFACTURER WITH THE CRITERIA AND IN THE TERMS OF THEIR LOCATION, THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR 15 YEARS, UH, REBATE. AND AS, AS WE GO THROUGH THE CRITERIA, UM, STARTING WITH ECONOMIC BENEFITS, THEY ARE A TARGETED INDUSTRY AND THEY DO HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO SEED ADDITIONAL BIOMANUFACTURING IN SAN ANTONIO. HOWEVER, IT IS NOT A HEADQUARTER AND THEY DON'T, UH, ANTICIPATE THAT LOCAL FIRMS [00:25:01] WILL MEET THEIR COMPANY'S CONTRACTING NEEDS. IN TERMS OF THE LABOR FORCE, UH, THEY ARE ANTICIPATED TO HIRE ABOUT 85% FROM SAN ANTONIO, AND 65% OF FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES WOULD MAKE OVER $56,000. ADDITIONALLY, THEY DO PROVIDE A BENEFITS PACKAGE THAT INCLUDES PAID LEAVE AND WELLNESS. HOWEVER, THE COMPANY DOES NOT IMPLEMENT, UH, PRACTICES THAT SUPPORT HARD TO HIRE POPULATIONS. AND FINALLY, UH, BASED ON THE REVIEW, THE COMPANY WOULDN'T HAVE A MINIMAL IMPACT ON EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. OUR FINAL EXAMPLE IS IN IT HEADQUARTERS. SO WITH THIS THE LEVEL OF INVESTMENT, THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR A TAX ABATEMENT AS THEY'RE LOOKING AT A 3 MILLION, $300 MILLION CAPITAL INVESTMENT AND BASED ON LOCATION, UH, UP TO A SEVEN YEAR TERM. SO THEY ARE, THE EQUITY MATRIX SCORE IS FOUR, HOWEVER, THEY ARE, UH, WILL BE LOCATED IN A REGIONAL CENTER. SO IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC BENEFIT, IT IS A TARGETED INDUSTRY. THEY ARE A TARGETED, UH, THEY ARE EXPANDING THEIR HEADQUARTERS IN SAN ANTONIO, AND THE COMPANY HAS COMMITTED TO CONTRACT WITH LOCAL FIRMS. IN TERMS OF THE LABOR FORCE, 85% OF NEW HIRES WOULD, ARE ANTICIPATED TO BE LOCAL. THEY'RE, THEY HAVE A, A GENEROUS BENEFIT PACKAGE, AND ADDITIONALLY, 95% OF FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES WOULD MAKE OVER $56,000. HOWEVER, THIS COMPANY DOES NOT, UH, TARGET HARD TO HIRE POPULATIONS, SO THEY WOULD NOT MEET THE FULL, UH, THE FULL TOTAL POINTS. AND FINALLY, UH, IN INFRASTRUCTURE, THE COMPANY IS, WOULD BE INVESTING IN ENVIRONMENTAL CLEANUP AT THE SITE, AND THEY ARE INCLUDING PARKS AND OTHER, UH, PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE OPEN TO THE COMMUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY'S USE. SO THAT PROVIDES AN OVERVIEW OF OUR THREE 12 AND THREE 80 REQUIREMENTS AND CRITERIA. AND I WANTED TO MOVE ON TO OUR SMALL BUSINESS PROGRAM. UM, CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE A SMALL BUSINESS PROGRAM INCLUDED IN OUR ECONOMIC INCENTIVE GUIDELINES. SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A, A NEW PROGRAM, IT WOULD BE A THREE 80 GRANT. A COMPANY OR A FIRM WOULD HAVE TO ADD FIVE NEW JOBS. UM, AND THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS, THE SAME REQUIREMENTS FOR WAGES AND HEALTHCARE BENEFITS AS, AS A THREE 12 OR A THREE 80. HOWEVER, A WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENT, UM, WE WOULD NOT, WE WOULD NOT REQUIRE THAT IN TERMS OF THE THREE 80 FOR SMALL BUSINESS BE EVALUATED BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES AND THE GROSS REVENUES. AND SO THEY MUST MEET SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION STANDARDS FOR THAT INDUSTRY TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR A SMALL BUSINESS GRANT. THE SCORING AND CRITERIA ARE SIMILAR IN TERMS OF THE LENGTH OF THE, THE AGREEMENT. SO WITH THIS, AGAIN, IF THEY'RE IN, IN A, IF THEY'RE LOCATED IN AN EQUITY IN AN AREA WITH AN EQUITY SCORE OF TWO TO FIVE, THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR UP TO A FIVE YEAR GRANT. IF THEY ARE INCLU, IF THEY'RE LOCATED IN, IN AN AREA WITH AN EQUITY MATRIX OF SIX TO 10, THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR UP TO A 10 YEAR AGREEMENT. AND FINALLY, AGAIN, IF THEY'RE INCLUDED IN A REGIONAL CENTER, THEY COULD GET AN ADDITIONAL TWO YEARS. IN TERMS OF THE, IN TERMS OF THE TYPE OF GRANT, THEY WOULD ALSO BE EVALUATED, UM, WITH CERTAIN CRITERIA TO INCLUDE A TARGETED INDUSTRY IF THEY ARE OWNED BY PEOPLE OF COLOR OR WOMEN. AND IF A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE, UH, JOBS OF THE WAGES ARE HIGHER THAN THE, THAN THE WAGES WITHIN THAT CENSUS TRACK THAT THEY'RE LOCATED. SO WHAT IS, WHAT DO THOSE POINTS MEAN? SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS IF A, IF A COMPANY RECEIVES, OR A FIRM RECEIVES A SCORE OF BETWEEN 40 AND 79, THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR 3% OF THE ANNUAL WAGES. IN TERMS OF A GRANT. IF THEY WOULD RECEIVE 80 OR MORE POINTS, THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR 5% OF THEIR ANNUAL WAGES IN, IN, IN THE WAY OF A GRANT. HOWEVER, THIS WOULD ALSO BE CAPPED AT 1500 JOBS, UH, I'M SORRY, $1,500 PER JOB ANNUALLY. SO A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES FOR THE, FOR A SMALL BUSINESS GRANT. UM, THE FIRST ONE IS A COMPANY THAT'S ADDING A NEW LOCATION ON THE NORTH SIDE. IT'S NOT A TARGETED INDUSTRY. UM, IT'S NOT OWNED BY A WOMAN OR A PERSON OF COLOR. AND THE WAGES DON'T EXCEED THE CENSUS TRACKED AVERAGE. SO WITH THIS, THE COMPANY WOULD NOT QUALIFY. HOWEVER, LOOKING AT A CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT'S EXPANDING ON THE SOUTH SIDE, UM, THEY ARE NOT A TARGETED, ARE NOT A TARGETED INDUSTRY, HOWEVER, IT IS WOMAN OWNED. AND THE WAGES EXCEED THE CENSUS TRACT. SO THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR 70 POINTS OR A 3%, UH, ANNUAL WAGE GRANT. AND FINALLY, A PRIMARY, A PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN THAT'S EXPANDING TO THE EAST SIDE. IT ISN'T A TARGETED INDUSTRY. [00:30:01] IT IS OWNED BY A PERSON OF COLOR, AND THE WAGES DO EXCEED THE CENSUS TRACTED. SO WITH THIS, THE COMPANY WOULD, UM, RECEIVE A HUNDRED POINTS AND BE ELIGIBLE FOR A 5% ANNUAL, UH, WAGE GRANT. SO THAT, UM, PROVIDES AN OVERVIEW OF THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO OUR INCENTIVE GUIDELINES. SO WHAT WE, BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED TODAY, THE PLAN WOULD BE TO PROVIDE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE FULL CITY COUNCIL AT B SESSION NEXT WEEK. AND THEN JULY THE, UM, ACTUAL INCENTIVE GUIDELINES WOULD BE FINALIZED. WE WOULD BE PRESENTING THESE, UH, THE GUIDELINES TO THE SMALL BUSINESS COMMISSION IN AUGUST. AND FINALLY WE WOULD PRESENT IT TO CITY COUNCIL AT AN A SESSION FOR FINAL, UH, CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION IN AUGUST AS WELL. SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION, AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH BOTH OF YOU, UH, FOR THE PRESENTATION AND ALSO FOR SETTING THE FRAMEWORK OF, OF OUR DISCUSSION TODAY. I THINK THIS HAS BEEN, UH, THIS IS A LOT OF CREATIVITY HERE. SO I'M GOING TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR ANY, UH, QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES RIGHT NOW. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ROGER GARCIA. OH, GONZALEZ, SURE. YEAH, YEAH, I'LL START HERE. UM, SO THANKS, UH, THANK YOU. AND SO THANK YOU FOR THIS. UM, LET, LEMME START WITH THE, UH, THIS SMALL BUSINESS INCENTIVES AND THESE GUIDELINES. ADDITION. WE GO BACK FOR NEW BUSINESSES. NO, IT'S, NO, THE IDEA IS THAT IF THEY EXPAND, AND SO, AND, AND IT'S THE REQUIREMENT TRYING TO STRIKE THE BALANCE BETWEEN ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN AND REACHING TO SMALL BUSINESSES, YOU GOTTA CREATE FIVE JOBS. AND SO, AND AND TO BE CLEAR, IT'S NOT, IT'S 5% OF THE WAGES OF THE NEW JOBS. MM-HMM. NOT EVERY JOB IN THE BUSINESS. SO WE EXPLICITLY, WERE THINKING ABOUT SMALL LOCAL BUSINESS. HOLD THAT. SURE. A RESTAURANT, A RESTAURANT OPENS, IT SAYS IS A RESTAURANT, TYPICALLY GOOD SIZED RESTAURANT WILL EMPLOY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 25 AND 55 PEOPLE. AND SO THEY DECIDE TO OPEN A SECOND LOCATION. AND IN OPENING THE SECOND LOCATION, THEY HAD 25 FOLKS. AND IT'S A RESTAURANT OWNED BY A PERSON OF COLOR. AND SO THEY MIGHT QUALIFY VERY MUCH FOR THIS RIGHT OFF THE BAT. OKAY. SO, BUT, SO, AND, AND WHAT WOULD THE, HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH WOULD THEY GET? YEAH. YEAH. SO THEY WOULD EITHER GET AS, AS IT'S STRUCTURED RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE TYPICALLY SMALL BUSINESS, IT'S LESS OF, A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE IN RENTAL SPACE OR WHATEVER. SO WE'RE SAYING, OKAY, YOU'VE CREATED, LET'S SAY YOU CREATED 10 NEW JOBS AND YOU'RE PAYING EACH PERSON AN AVERAGE OF $50,000, JUST 'CAUSE I COULD DO THE MATH IN MY HEAD. SO THAT'S 10 JOBS, $50,000, YOU QUALIFY ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN THE LINE. YOU GET 5% OF THE ANNUAL WAGES, YOU GET $25,000 FOR THAT. AND SO IN THAT $25,000 IS A TAX ABATEMENT. IT'S A GRANT. IT'S A GRANT, IT'S A GRANT GRANT TO BE USED. HOWEVER THEY CHOOSE. HOWEVER THEY CHOOSE. AND THE REASON THE, THE THREE AND THE 5% COME FROM A CALCULATION ABOUT WHAT THE VALUE OF INCREMENTAL JOBS ULTIMATELY ARE TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, BY THE TIME YOU WRAP IN SALES TAX, PROPERTY TAXES, TRANSFER TO THE GENERAL REVENUE FUND FROM THE UTILITY, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FOR A PUBLIC USE? NO, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TO PROVIDE. NO. OKAY. WE MAY, WE MAY WANT TO BUILD A LITTLE MORE FENCE AROUND THAT. BUT THE IDEA IS, AGAIN, MOST OF THE TIME SMALL BUSINESS IS SAYING, I NEED AS MUCH HELP AS I CAN GET WITH OPERATIONAL STUFF. WE'VE SEEN THAT RECENTLY, PARTICULARLY COMING OUTTA THE PANDEMIC WITH THE P P P LOANS AND TO SOME DEGREE IN THE RESTAURANT INDUSTRY, THE R R F LOAN GRANTS. REALLY. AND SO THIS IS DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY TO ADDRESS THE, UH, THE SMALLER BUSINESSES WHO NEED SOME HELP. AND THEY NEED, FRANKLY, NOT A LOT, NOT TOO MANY CONSTRAINTS ON, ON WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH IT. OKAY. WELL, THAT'S GREAT. UM, AND I DO LOVE THAT YOU'VE USED THE, UM, MEDICAL MM-HMM. . UM, I KNOW THAT WE, WE HAVE A MEDICAL DESERT IN MY DISTRICT. YEP. THAT'S COME UP A NUMBER OF TIMES. WE WERE, WE KICKED AROUND. I SEE THE TWO, MY STAFF MEMBERS ARRIVE. WE'VE KICKED AROUND A COUPLE OF TIMES TRYING TO CREATE A, A PILOT FOR DOCTORS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIANS. AND A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH NOT HAVING CLASS A OFFICE. YES, THAT'S RIGHT. UM, SO, UH, IN THIS SCENARIO THAT YOU'VE CREATED, THEY COULD INVEST INTO PERHAPS A PHYSICAL BUILDING. YES. WHICH IS, UM, ONE ISSUE THAT COMES UP VERY OFTEN. UM, SO CAN YOU GO, I FEEL LIKE I KNOW WHAT TO DO THERE, PLEASE. OH, THANK YOU. UM, SO, AND, AND SO DID I UNDERSTAND, UM, I, I AM AFRAID THAT I MAY HAVE LOST YOU A LITTLE BIT ALONG THE WAY, SO WE'RE GETTING AWAY FROM THE TARGETED INDUSTRIES, [00:35:01] BUT WE ARE, BUT, BUT YET I SAW IT AGAIN, I FELT LIKE IN JOHN'S REMARKS, HE SAID, WE'RE GETTING AWAY FROM TARGETED INDUSTRIES, WE'RE GOING MORE QUALITY OF LIFE. BUT THEN I FELT LIKE YOU BROUGHT IT BACK IN. WANT ME TO ANSWER THAT? OR DO YOU WANT TO WELL, IT'S, IT'S PART OF, WE STILL FEEL THAT IT'S AN IMPORTANT, AND SO IT'S PART OF THE EVALUATION CRITERIA, UM, TARGETING THOSE INDUSTRIES. SO IF THEY ARE PART OF A TARGETED INDUSTRY, THEY WOULD RECEIVE MORE POINTS FOR THAT EVALUATION CRITERIA. I, SO I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT. I, I'M TRYING TO INFLUENCE THEM TO JUST BE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE WITH IT IS ALL. OKAY. WELL, I, I, I WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR A RECOMMENDATION, I WOULD, I ALWAYS WANTED TO ELIMINATE THE TARGETED INDUSTRIES. I, I FELT THE SAME WAY IN THE WORKFORCE. THE TRAIN FOR WORKS PROGRAM. I DIDN'T LIKE THAT. I MEAN, JUST A, I UNDERSTAND WE'RE TRYING TO COME TO A CONSENSUS, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY IN SO MANY FIELDS, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, TO FORCE PEOPLE INTO ONE CAREER OR ANOTHER. I DIDN'T LIKE THAT WITH THE TRAIN TO WORK. I DIDN'T LIKE THAT WITH THE INCENTIVE PROGRAMS, THAT WE TEND TO FOCUS ON TARGETED INDUSTRIES. UM, AND JUST GIVEN THAT, LIKE, WE JUST DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS. UM, I NEVER LIKED THE TARGETED INDUSTRY'S, UM, DESIGN. SO I'LL JUST SAY THAT FOR, YOU KNOW, AS, AS WE CONTINUE TO EVALUATE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE JOBS OF THE FUTURE ARE, I THINK IT MAY BE KIND OF LIMITING TO SAY IT HAS TO BE IN ONE PARTICULAR FIELD OR ANOTHER. UM, THAT'S JUST FOR SOME FEEDBACK AS, AS WE KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT. AND, AND EVEN EVEN THE REGIONAL CENTERS, I, I NEVER LIKED THAT EITHER. I MEAN, I, I, I, I CHAIRED THE PLANNING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. I NEVER REALLY LIKED THE REGIONAL CENTER'S CONCEPT. I MEAN, THAT WAS THE WAY THAT IT WAS PRESENTED. AND, BUT I ALWAYS FELT THAT, I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE A REGIONAL CENTER AT ALL IN DISTRICT FIVE, AND IT'S ONLY BECAUSE I REALLY FORCED US TO HAVE A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS. DID WE EVER GET ANYTHING? UM, AND I KNOW THAT, I THINK THAT WAS THE CASE IN A COUPLE OF OTHER, UH, DISTRICTS AS WELL, ESPECIALLY FOR THE WEST. I THINK THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND I, UH, THE PART THAT DISTRICT SIX AND I SHARED DIDN'T HAVE ANY REGIONAL CENTERS. SO MY COMPLAINT HAS ALWAYS, WELL, NOT MY COMPLAINT, MY, UM, OBSERVATION, UH, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, DISTRICT FIVE DOESN'T HAVE ANY LARGE EMPLOYERS AND WE'RE NOT GONNA GET ANY, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE LAND. SO WE'RE NEVER GONNA GET A A, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, UNLESS THE JAIL AND THE COUNTY DECIDE TO GET UP AND MOVE, UH, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NEVER GONNA GET THAT. AND THE LARGEST LIKE SINGLE TRACK OF LAND THAT WE HAVE IN THE DISTRICT WAS LONE STAR THAT WE JUST APPROVED SOME, AND IT'S 32 ACRES. SO, UM, AND THAT'S IT. SO I I, I NEVER LIKED THE REGIONAL CENTER'S APPROACH EITHER, BUT YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT'S PRESENTED. SO IF WE COULD, MY FEEDBACK WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD ELIMINATE SOME OF THAT CRITERIA. LOOK, CAN, CAN I RESPOND TO THAT? SO I, I THINK THAT WHEN WE, WHEN I, THERE'S A, THERE'S THE 13 REGIONAL CENTERS AS IDENTIFIED BY THE CITY. THE FEEDBACK WE GOT WHEN WE WENT AND TALKED TO PRACTITIONERS IN THE COMMUNITY WERE, WAS THAT DIFFERENT AREAS OF TOWN NEEDED PEOPLE WHO WERE LOOKING OUT FOR THEM SPECIFICALLY. AND SO, FOR EXAMPLE, I MEAN, BROOKS IS THE EXAMPLE EVERYBODY USES, RIGHT? BROOKS DOES THEIR THING. THE GUYS OVER ON THE EAST SIDE DOING THEIR BIOSCIENCES THING IN A LONG CONVERSATION. I'M AFRAID HIS NAME ESCAPES ME WITH A GUY FOCUSED ON THE WEST SIDE SAYING, I NEED THE SAME KIND OF ATTENTION. AND SO PERHAPS WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IS BUILDING ON THE CONCEPT OF REGIONAL CENTERS TO SAY DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE COMMUNITY NEED SPECIFIC FOCUS SO THAT IT COULD BE MORE INCLUSIVE. THAT IT, SO THAT THE AREAS WHERE YOU ALL, FOR EXAMPLE, DON'T HAVE A REGIONAL CENTER RIGHT NOW, WE MAYBE NEED TO LOOK AT SOME AREAS WITHIN YOUR DISTRICTS THAT COULD DEFACTO BECOME LIKE REGIONAL CENTERS. 'CAUSE PART OF THE UNDERLYING JUSTIFICATION IS CONCENTRATION OF RESOURCES, INFRASTRUCTURE AND SYNERGY THAT COMES WITH THAT. AND SO THAT'S THE PURPOSE. REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT PLACE AND WE TALKED ABOUT CREATING ATTRACTIVE QUALITY OF LIFE AND ALL THAT. I DID SOME WORK FOR DETROIT YEARS AND YEARS AGO, AND DETROIT HAS ALL THIS INFRASTRUCTURE FOR A CITY OF 3 MILLION PEOPLE, AND THEY'RE DOWN TO LESS THAN A MILLION. AND WE SAID, CONCENTRATE, GET THE THINGS TOGETHER SO THAT THEY CAN CREATE SYNERGY. SAME IDEA HERE. AND I, AND WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IT, I THINK WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE LIMITED TO THE 13. I THINK WE WANT TO BRING THAT MINDSET SO THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT PLACES IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE WE ARE CONCENTRATING OUR EFFORTS THAT ARE PRETTY INCLUSIVE. THAT THAT'S THE CONCEPT. GREAT. THANK YOU. WELL, I HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK I'LL TURN IT OVER. OTHERWISE THEY CAN GO ON AND ON. SO I'LL, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO OTHER PEOPLE TO TALK. SO THANK YOU, UH, CHAIR. THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN. VERY, UH, VERY GOOD COMMENTS. COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHE GARCIA. THANK YOU CHAIR. UM, AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I TOO AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS SMALL BUSINESS. YEAH. UM, AND ACTUALLY BEFORE I GO INTO MY QUESTIONS ON THAT, [00:40:01] YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING THAT, THAT IS INTRIGUING TO ME. AND ONE OF MY SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS HAD ASKED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT WHAT IS BEING DONE IN EACH DISTRICT TO HELP THEM BECOME SELF-SUSTAINING. AND SO AGAIN, SO DISTRICT FIVE HAS VERY DIFFERENT NEEDS IN DISTRICT FOUR, ET CETERA. AND SO I, I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S FOR THIS CONVERSATION, RIGHT? BUT IN YOUR RESEARCH, JUST IN GENERAL, HAVE YOU SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT? YES. BEFORE I GO INTO MY QUESTION, YES, I HAVE. AND, AND THAT, THAT COMES TO, I'M SAYING THINK ABOUT THIS IN A BROADER CONTEXT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE IS WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE WAKING UP EVERY SINGLE DAY TO SAY, IT'S MY JOB TO MAKE DISTRICT FIVE BETTER IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WHEN YOU HAVE DEDICATED STAFF WITH DEDICATED RESOURCES. NOW, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN IT HAS TO BE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. A LOT OF TIMES IT CAN BE A, AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. IT CAN BE A NOT-FOR-PROFIT OR WHATEVER. BUT SAN ANTONIO IS BLESSED WITH A NUMBER OF EXAMPLES WHERE THAT'S BEEN EFFECTIVE. AND MY SUGGESTION TO YOU MORE BROADLY WOULD BE TO LOOK MORE AT THAT, TO SAY WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE THE SPECIFIC NEEDS OF EACH? YOU COULD DO IT BY DISTRICT, YOU COULD DO IT BY NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU COULD DO IT BY A VARIETY OF THINGS. WHAT DO EACH ONE, WHAT DO, WHAT DO THEY NEED NOW AND WHAT ARE THEIR POSSIBILITIES? AND HOW DO WE GET PEOPLE WORKING ON IT ON A DAILY BASIS? I'M NOT SAYING IT SHOULD BE THESE GUYS, THESE GUYS HAVE ENOUGH TO DO MM-HMM. . BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE DOING THAT. AND I THINK IT'S, I THINK, I THINK IT'S INCREASINGLY IMPORTANT IN THE MODERN ECONOMY BECAUSE IT IS SO MUCH ABOUT PLACE. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, I'LL START NOW WITH, WITH MY QUESTIONS IN GENERAL. AND THANK YOU, BY THE WAY, FOR THE PAY PARITY, UM, THE READY TO WORK HIRING. I THINK THAT'S GREAT. DOES THAT INCLUDE ON-THE-JOB TRAINING AS WELL? SO AS PART OF, THEY WOULD HAVE TO HIRE AT LEAST 15% FROM READY TO WORK. AND WE INCLUDED THAT INTERNSHIP OPTION. SO THEY COULD DO THE ON, SO THEY COULD GET THAT EXPERIENCE ON THE JOB, UH, PRIOR TO APPLYING FOR A FULL-TIME, FULL, YOU KNOW, UH, EQUIVALENT JOB. SO IT COULD BE EITHER INTERNSHIP OR ON THE JOB TRAINING. OKAY. SO, OR, OR MAYBE IT'S CONSIDERED ONE AND THE SAME. UM, IS 50% THE STANDARD OF HIRING FROM LOCAL? IS THAT KIND OF WHAT YOU'VE SEEN IN YOUR RESEARCH? YEAH, MOST RECENTLY WHEN, WHEN I WAS DOING THE NEGOTIATIONS FOR TRAVIS COUNTY UP IN AUSTIN TO BRING TESLA TO TOWN, 50% IS WHAT WE SETTLE ON. AND THEY WERE NER THEY'RE NERVOUS ABOUT THAT. BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING, HERE'S AN INTERESTING THING, IS THEY ARE NOW CONTEMPLATING BUILDING HOUSING ON SITE, PARTIALLY AS A WAY TO DEAL WITH THAT, WHICH I VIEW AS A VERY POSITIVE OUTCOME. 'CAUSE WE'RE SHORT ON HOUSING IN, IN THAT NECK OF THE WOODS. AND THAT ALSO HAS POSITIVE TRAFFIC IMPLICATIONS AS WELL THAT WE OPERATED. SO AGAIN, YOU CAN BE BROADER WITH IT. IT DEPENDS. WHEN YOU SAY SAN ANTONIO, WHAT IS SAN ANTONIO? RIGHT? THE CITY OF, IS IT BAYER COUNTY? IS IT THE M S A? YOU KNOW, YOU'D, YOU'D RATCHET THE PERCENTAGE UP, THE MORE WIDELY YOU CAST THE NET. BUT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS EARLIER. AGAIN, IT GETS INTERESTING IF YOU START TALKING ABOUT A COMPANY THAT'S HEADQUARTERED HERE THAT HAS PEOPLE WORKING ELSEWHERE MM-HMM. . SO WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO RECONCILE THAT, MAYBE WITH AN EXCEPTION. GOT IT. AND THEN MY, UH, FINAL QUESTION, AND MAYBE THIS IS AN OFFLINE QUESTION, BUT HOW ARE THE POINTS BROKEN DOWN? IS THERE A RUBRIC I NOTICED IN AN ECONOMIC BENEFIT, THERE'S FIVE AREAS, BUT WE ONLY GIVE A CERTAIN TYPE OF POINTS. SO IS, IS THIS, WHO GETS TO AWARD? HOW MANY POINTS? WHO DECIDES IT'S 20 POINTS VERSUS THEY ONLY MET THREE CRITERIA? SO MAYBE IT SHOULD BE LESS. LIKE WHO DECIDES THAT I, I'M THE ARCHITECT OF THAT AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE STAFF. AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY. IT'S BECAUSE EVERY SITUATION IS DIFFERENT AND SOME JUDGMENT IS REQUIRED. AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS ALLOW JUDGMENT TO BE APPLIED, BUT WITH PARAMETERS AND GUIDELINES. AND SO WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT WOULD BE STAFF WOULD COME BACK AND SAY TO COUNSEL, HERE'S A BRIEF EXPLANATION, NOT TWO SENTENCES, BUT THREE PARAGRAPHS ABOUT WHY WE THOUGHT THESE GUYS DESERVED AN ACCEPTABLE OR AN EXCELLENT RATING. AND I, I FIND THAT, AGAIN, IT'S STRIKE. IT'S TRYING TO STRIKE THAT BALANCE. I DON'T WANT IT, IF YOU MAKE IT TOO MECHANICAL, YOU'RE ALWAYS MAKING EXCEPTIONS. MM-HMM. , IF IT'S WIDE OPEN, THEN WHAT ARE YOU DOING? RIGHT? SO IT'S TRYING TO STRIKE THAT BALANCE BETWEEN GUIDANCE ON HOW THEY'RE GONNA BE EVALUATED, GUIDANCE, AND FOR BOTH THE COMPANY AND FOR STAFF. AND THEN PUTTING THE BURDEN ON STAFF TO COME BACK TO YOU AS THE DECISION MAKERS AND SAY, HERE'S WHY WE LANDED WHERE WE DID. SO IN, I'LL CALL IT A RUBRIC. 'CAUSE I COME FROM ACADEMIC SENSE. SO, UM, IF WE THINK OF ECONOMIC BENEFIT, THEY CAN RECEIVE UP TO HOW MANY POINTS AND UP TO HOW MANY POINTS ON LABOR FORCE, WHAT DOES THAT BREAKDOWN? SO THAT BREAKDOWN. SO ECONOMIC IMPACT, IF THEY GOT AN EXCELLENT, THEY COULD GET UP TO 40 POINTS. UM, IF THEY WERE EXCELLENT ON CHARACTER OF JOBS AND LABOR FORCE, THEY COULD GET UP TO 40. AND THEN THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPACT WOULD BE UP TO 20. SO WE HEAVILY, WE WEIGHTED MORE HEAVILY THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT, I'M SORRY. AND THE LABOR FORCE. [00:45:01] UM, AND IN THE SCORING. SO IN THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OR ECONOMIC BENEFIT PART, THERE'S 40 POINTS THAT THEY CAN GET. MM-HMM. , HOW DO WE DISTINGUISH WHERE WE WEIGH MORE ON THE TARGETED INDUSTRY VERSUS THE NEW CLUSTER OR A POTENTIALLY NEW SEED? I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF LIKE, I, I GUESS IT'S ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, BUT, UM, I, I'M JUST TRYING TO, I DON'T, I, I DON'T WANT SOMEONE TO THINK, OH, WELL THEY WERE UNFAIR BECAUSE BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO, TO FIGURE OUT LIKE, WHAT IS THAT? LIKE HOW MUCH CAN BE WORTH, UH, WITHIN THAT 40 POINTS, HOW MUCH DO I GET FOR BEING IN THE TARGETED INDUSTRY? OR POTENTIALLY THERE IS NO, IT'S A OVERALL SCORE, RIGHT. OF THAT CATEGORY. AH, GOT IT. OKAY. THERE, IT'S, SO WE WOULD LOOK AT ALL OF THEIR ANSWERS AND I, I ANTICIPATE THIS, WE WERE, WERE GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THE COMPANY, YOU KNOW? YEP. TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, OUR EVALUATION IS FAIR. GOT IT. UM, AND SO ONCE THEY ANSWER ALL THESE QUESTIONS AND WERE SATISFIED WITH THE RESPONSES, THEY WOULD GET AN OVERALL SCORE FOR THAT CATEGORY. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. SO THEN, UM, I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO BE SENSITIVE THAT, OH, WELL EVERYBODY ALWAYS GETS 40 POINTS OR EVERYBODY, NOBODY EVER GETS 40 POINTS, ET CETERA. SO I, I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT OKAY. BUT I SEE WHERE THE FLEXIBILITY IS NEEDED. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A LOT LIKE GRADING AN ESSAY. YEAH. THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING, YEAH. BECAUSE I GET ASKED ALL THE TIME. YEAH. HOW COME I DIDN'T GET AN A PLUS? WELL, LEMME SHOW YOU. YEAH. BUT IN THIS CASE, LIKE, HOW ARE WE SHOWING THEM THAT THEY DIDN'T GET AN A PLUS? THAT'S RIGHT. WELL, WE WOULD DO SO WHEN THE INEVITABLY THE, THESE, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE'D MAKE THE SCORE AVAILABLE, I GUESS IMPLICITLY THE SCORE WOULD BE MADE AVAILABLE, BUT IT'S PUBLIC RECORD WHEN YOU COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND SAY, THIS IS HOW WE EVALUATED THEM THE WAY THEY DID. AND, UM, SO PEOPLE WILL THEN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, WELL, I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR. WELL, IT'S, IT'S AT THE CITY'S DISCRETION. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS, CHAIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER GADDA. THANK YOU. MAD CHAIR. UM, THE, THE BRIEFING MEMO, MEMO MENTIONED, UH, GUIDELINES THAT ADDRESS COMMUNITY PRIORITIES AND TRENDS, UH, THAT EMERGED FROM INTERVIEWS, FOCUS GROUPS, AND RESEARCH. MM-HMM. , I'D LIKE TO READ MORE ABOUT THAT. FOCUS GROUPS RESEARCH. UM, I WANNA PICK UP REGIONAL CENTERS. I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT THAT REGIONAL CENTERS GIVE TO, UM, TO THE REGIONS WHEN THEY'RE SUPPORTING. BUT, UM, I'VE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, I DON'T REALLY NECESSARILY LIKE THE CRITERIA THAT CREATES A REGIONAL CENTER. THEY'RE ARE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, AS YOU MENTIONED, THEY GO WHERE ASSISTING RESOURCES ARE. YEP. AND THERE'S AREAS THAT, UM, EXACTLY THE SAME AREA COMES FROM TALKED ABOUT. IT'S, IT'S ON THE BORDER OF FIVE AND SIX MM-HMM. . AND, UM, I CAN'T, AND THERE WAS TRACKS. WE DO ACTUALLY HAVE LAND. THEY ARE ON MY SIDE ANYWAY, NOT IN FIVE. RIGHT. BUT IN DISTRICT SIX, WE DO HAVE SOME LAND THAT WE COULDN'T GIVE AWAY. THE CITY COULDN'T GIVE AWAY FOR A WHILE. YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S JUST NOT AN AREA OF ECONOMIC GROWTH IN DEVELOPMENT. I FEEL LIKE IF WE STARTED TO TARGET THAT, IF THAT WAS SOME OF THE CRITERIA THAT WE INCLUDED IN THESE, THESE, UM, WHAT WE ADDED TO THE EVALUATION CRITERIA WAS AN ACTUAL PHYSICAL LOCATION, NOT ECONOMIC GROWTH, THEN WE COULD START TO, TO DEVELOP THAT AND MAKE IT MORE OF A TRADITIONAL REGIONAL CENTER. THEY, THEY BY, BY VIRTUE OF WHERE THEY ARE, THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE EXISTING RESOURCES. SO THEY WOULDN'T BE A REGIONAL CENTER. UM, SO ANYWAY, JUST I, I'D LIKE TO YOU TO CONSIDER THAT AND AS WE MOVE TOWARDS THESE KIND OF REGIONAL CENTERS, THAT WE CAN EXPAND THAT THIS EVALUATION CRITERIA TO INCLUDE GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATIONS. MM-HMM. ABSOLUTELY. HOW WE DEVELOP THAT CRITERIA IS, YOU KNOW, TO BE DISCUSSING. BUT, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I, WE'RE TRYING TO, WE'RE TRYING TO BRING IT INTO THAT AREA, BUT IT'S, IT'S HARD TO KIND OF, IT'S, IT'S A CATCH 22, RIGHT? THEY DON'T WANT TO COME UNTIL THEY THINK THE RESOURCES THERE AND THE REASONS AREN'T GONNA COME INTO THE BUSINESS. CAN CAN I SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT? YEAH. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CITI IS FACING RIGHT NOW ARE REALLY ACTUALLY AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY. A LOT OF TIMES IT'S NOT THE INCENTIVES. THE INCENTIVES, AGAIN, BACK TO THE TAIL AND THE DOG, IT'S THE INFRASTRUCTURE. AND SO WITH THE MONEY COMING FROM THE A R R A ACT ONE OF, AND THE SPECIFIC AUTHORIZATION TO USE SOME OF IT AROUND BROADBAND, THAT COULD BE AN AREA WHERE MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE, PARTICULARLY RELATED TO BROADBAND, AS WELL AS PROGRAMS DESIGNED TO HELP INDUSTRIES THAT HAVE SUFFERED. THERE'S A LOT MORE THERE. THE INCENTIVES CAN LAYER ON TOP OF THAT. I DON'T THINK INCENTIVES WILL OVERCOME THE PROBLEM. I THINK IT'S GONNA TAKE MORE THAN THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S KIND OF A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW. I AGREE. THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS, IS, UH, MY, MY JOB. RIGHT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING ON. OH, I'M SORRY. START ALL OVER. OKAY. . SO BACK TO . SORRY. THANK YOU. UM, SO ANYWAY, THAT'S THE POINT I WANNA MAKE ON THAT, BUT I DO AGREE INFRASTRUCTURE IS A, IS AN ADDITIONAL PROBLEM. I KNOW WHEN, UM, BILL MILLER WAS LOOKING AT, UM, INCENTIVES FROM THE CITY, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I WAS GONNA HAVE TO PROVIDE FOR MY, MY OWN BUDGET. YEAH. UM, THAT WORKED OUT A DIFFERENT WAY. BUT, UM, BUT ANYWAY. SO SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO Y'ALL TO CONSIDER. I AM CURIOUS, WHAT ARE THE TARGETED INDUSTRIES OTHER THAN HEALTHCARE? SURE. SO THE [00:50:01] TARGETED INDUSTRIES ARE, UM, HEALTHCARE. UM, WE ALSO HAVE, UM, BIOSCIENCE HEALTHCARE, IT, CYBERSECURITY, ADVANCED MANUFACTURING, AND NEW ENERGY. OKAY. WE TYPICALLY PUT AEROSPACE INTO THE ADVANCED MANUFACTURING CATEGORY. OKAY. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ELA. THANKS. A LOT OF GROUNDS BEEN COVERED. YOUR, YOUR MICROPHONE PLEASE. YEAH. SO A LOT, LOT OF GROUND'S BEEN COVERED, AND, UM, YOU DID AN EXCELLENT JOB, BOTH OF YOU AND JOHN, IT'S WONDERFUL TO SEE YOU AGAIN. AND I'M, I'M NOT FORGETTING THAT CRACK ABOUT THE SNOW ON THE ROOF, BUT, WELL, IT'S, A LOT OF IT IS A LOT OF WHITE HAIR . UH, THE, UH, WE HAVE A, UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF NON-PROFITS IN TOWN. YEAH. WHO DO GOOD WORK, WHO PAY VERY HIGH WAGES. UM, SO IF ONE OF 'EM WERE TO COME TO US AND SAY, I, I WANT TO EXPAND MY FOOTPRINT, RIGHT? I WANT ACQUIRE NEW LAND AND HIRE NEW PEOPLE, HIGH PAYING JOBS, DO THEY QUALIFY FOR THIS AT ALL? WE TYPICALLY HAVE WHY YOUR MICROPHONE? BECAUSE OF THE YEAH. I LIKE YOUR MICROPHONE, . THANK YOU. UM, THE IDEA OF, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE SOMEWHAT BEEN FOCUSED ON TARGETED INDUSTRIES AND THE WAY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO LEVERAGE THE COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE THAT WE HAVE IN, IN SOME INDUSTRIES, UM, THAT'S BEEN ONE OF THE MAIN DRIVERS. UH, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS A TOOL FOR, FOR ECONOMIC GROWTH AND, AND TRYING TO CREATE, UM, THE JOBS AND THE EXPANSION, THE INVESTMENT THAT WE'VE SEEN FOR-PROFIT COMPANIES, UM, EMBARK ON. SO THAT'S, YEAH. IT'S BEEN THE MAJORITY OF, AND SO TO THAT, I WOULD REMIND YOU THAT THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A FOR-PROFIT AND A NON-PROFIT COMPANY IS A TAX FILING, RIGHT? MM-HMM. AND WHAT THEY DO WITH THEIR PROFITS. RIGHT. AND, UH, FOR THE MOST PART, THE NONPROFITS WILL JUST REINVEST, YOU KNOW, THE WHATEVER REVENUES THEY HAVE IN EXPANDING. BUT, YOU KNOW, AND YOU, AND I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION IN THE PAST ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A FEELING IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR ECONOMIC IMPACT, YOU KNOW, TO THE CITY AND THE TERMS OF SPENDING AND, AND THE, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS, UH, PAYROLL GOES AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY SPEND THEIR MONEY ON, IT MUST BE CONSIDERABLE. I MEAN, WE MUST BE TALKING MANY HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND SPENDING IN LOCAL FIRMS AND IN OWNING PROPERTY AND IN SPENDING ON SAWS AND C P S AND ALL THE THINGS THAT OTHER COMPANIES BUY. AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT OCCURS TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT, AND I MEAN, PICK YOUR, PICK YOUR NONPROFIT, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THEM, MANY OF THEM ARE TRAINING, YOU KNOW, FUTURE PHD PSYCHOLOGISTS, UH, YOU KNOW, FUTURE SCHOOL COUNSELORS, THE KIND OF PEOPLE THAT WE WANT IN THIS TO STAY IN THIS CITY, RIGHT? AND SO, I'M, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHY IT IS THAT, UM, THAT WHY WE WOULD CONSCIOUSLY EXCLUDE THEM. UM, AND I'D INVITE THIS COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER OPENING THAT UP TO, YOU KNOW, NONPROFITS WHO ARE PAYING HIGHER WAGES THAN SOME OTHER PEOPLE THAT YOU MIGHT BE. RIGHT? I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, MY MOM'S AGENCY PAYS BETTER THAN 17 BUCKS AN HOUR FOR PSYCHOLOGISTS AND FOR, YOU KNOW, PSYCHIATRISTS AND FOR DENTISTS AND DOCTORS AND ALL THAT. RIGHT? UM, AND I, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE MISSING AN OPPORTUNITY HERE. UH, AN EMPLOYER IS AN EMPLOYER IS AN EMPLOYER, AND IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAROON, RIGHT? UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE KINDS OF JOBS THAT LAST FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. DO YOU REACT TO THAT ANYWAY? YEAH, SURE. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S SOMETIMES CHALLENGING IN THE EQUATION IS, AGAIN, OUR TAX CODE TENDS TO, IN TEXAS, TENDS TO BE FOCUSED ON TRANSACTIONS AND ON PHYSICAL PROPERTY, RIGHT? AND SO A LOT OF NOT-FOR-PROFITS ARE IN RENTED SPACE. AND THEY MAY OR MAY NOT, THEY MAY BE PAYING TRIPLE NETS, OR THEY MAY NOT BE. BUT I THINK MAYBE WE'VE OPENED UP AN AREA OF OPPORTUNITY HERE WITH THE SMALL JOB GRANT APPROACH, BECAUSE THEN YOU COULD TIE IT TO AGAIN, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHICH IS WAGES, PAID EXPANSION, CREATING JOBS, RIGHT. AS OPPOSED TO EXPANDING TAX BASE. YEAH. AND, AND, AND SO I THINK MAYBE THE, MAYBE THE VEHICLE TO TAKE A A MORE NUANCED LOOK AT THIS MIGHT BE, MIGHT BE THERE WHERE IT HASN'T BEEN THERE IN THE PAST. AND, AND FOR NONPROFITS, THERE'S LIKE TWO DEGREES OF SEPARATION, RIGHT? FROM TAX BASE. 'CAUSE THEY DON'T PAY TAXES, UM, RIGHT. SALES OR PROPERTY, BUT THE, UH, BUT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY SPEND , RIGHT. UH, ON PRIVATE BUSINESS. YEAH. UM, YOU KNOW, IS, IS CONSIDERABLE. AND THEY DO HAVE, I MEAN, I WONDER WHAT THEIR MULTIPLIER IS AND HAVE WE EVER LOOKED AT THAT? IT'S A, I YOU CAN TELL IT'S, YEAH, IT'S, WELL, I DON'T, I DON'T NEED TO GEEK OUT HERE. IT'S SUBSTANTIAL. I THINK THE ONLY THING I WOULD, JUST BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THREE TWELVES AND THREE 80 ARE BUILT OFF OF THE INCREMENTAL TAX. RIGHT. RIGHT. THAT AN ENTITY IS PAYING A NONPROFIT WOULDN'T BE DOING THAT. OKAY. THAT'S FAIR. SO THAT'S LIKE THE BARE BONES ANSWER. OKAY, GOOD. AND SO THE OTHER, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD FOR YOU WAS, YOU AND I HAD HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT ANOTHER PROJECT THAT I'M, I'M EXCITED ABOUT, BUT YOU MADE A COMMENT THAT, THAT THAT LEFT ME WONDERING, AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU AND I HAVE TALKED, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME OR NOT, BUT YOU SAID SOMETHING, WE DON'T INCENTIVIZE RETAIL MEDICAL. WHY NOT? WE TRADITIONALLY HAVE NOT INCENTIVIZED ANY TYPE OF RETAIL PERIOD. UM, IF IT'S A DIRECT SERVICE TO [00:55:01] A CUSTOMER, WHETHER IT'S HEALTHCARE OR, UM, A RESTAURANT OR, OR ANYTHING ELSE, WE, WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE IDEA THAT THE JOBS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO INCENTIVIZE WOULD BE WITHIN AN INDUSTRY, WITHIN A COMPANY OR WITHIN, UM, A WAGE LEVEL THAT WOULD NOT HAVE TRADITIONALLY BEEN SUPPORTED BY THOSE DIRECT SERVICE TYPE JOBS. SO I'LL GIVE YOU JUST AN EXAMPLE. RIGHT. AN M R I CLINIC IN DISTRICT FIVE. RIGHT. IF I WERE TO OPEN UP AN M R I CAT SCAN, PET SCAN, NUCLEAR MEDICINE CLINIC, THEY'RE ALL OVER SAN ANTONIO. BUT THE JOBS THAT ARE CREATED AT THESE CLINICS, THEY'RE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PLUS JOBS. RIGHT. FOR YOUR TECHNICIANS AND FOR THE DOCTOR WHO'S GONNA BE THERE, AND FOR THE NURSES AND ALL THAT. BUT JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY SERVE THE PUBLIC, THEY'RE EXCLUDED. YEAH. WHY IS THAT A GOOD IDEA? CAN I, CAN I SHED SOME LIGHT ON THIS? MM-HMM. . SO TRADITIONAL THINKING IS, IS THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES ARE TIED TO BRINGING NEW MONEY INTO THE AREA. SO YOU GO RECRUIT THE BALL-BEARING FACTORY, WHICH HAS NEVER BEEN IN THE AREA BEFORE, AND THEY CREATE NEW JOBS AND THEY SHIP THEIR PRODUCTS ALL OVER THE WORLD. AND THAT BRINGS INCOME INTO SAN ANTONIO. TRADITIONAL THINKING ABOUT RETAIL AND CONSUMER SERVICES, YOU'RE JUST SERVICING MONEY THAT'S ALREADY IN THE AREA. SO YOU'RE NOT BRINGING NEW MONEY IN, YOU'RE JUST TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE MONEY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN BROUGHT TO THE AREA. THAT ALREADY EXISTS. BUT IN THE EXAMPLE YOU GAVE, WHAT YOU MAY VERY WELL BE DOING IS STEMMING LEAKAGE. WHEN I WENT TO HAVE MY HIPS REPLACED, I DIDN'T DO IT IN AUSTIN. I WENT TO CALIFORNIA TO GET IT DONE. WELL, THOSE MEDICAL DOLLARS FLOAT OUT. SO SOMETIMES CONSUMER SERVICES AND RETAIL CAN BECOME TARGETS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. ONE, IF YOU'RE STEMMING LEAKAGE OR TWO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GREAT WOLF LODGE AND YOU GOT MONEY, YOU GOT PEOPLE COMING IN FROM ALL OVER THE PLACE, RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT, IT'S ABOUT WHAT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE FLOW OF MONEY COMING TO THE COMMUNITY. EITHER YOU'RE BRINGING NET NEW IN OR YOU'RE KEEPING EXISTING MONEY FROM FLOWING OUT. SO WE DID A DEAL A FEW, FEW YEARS AGO, UM, WHERE WE REPRESENTED A FIRM OUT OF LOUISIANA THAT DID THIS, UM, IMAGING CENTER STUFF IN AUSTIN. UM, SIX NEW IMAGING CENTERS ALL SPREAD OUT ALL OVER, ALL OVER AUSTIN. MM-HMM. , THEY CAME IN AND BROUGHT BRAND NEW MACHINES AND THEY'D HIRED BABY NEW, NEW BABY DOCTORS OUTTA THE MEDICAL SCHOOLS. UM, WOULD NONE OF THOSE QUALIFY UNDER OUR, UNDER OUR CURRENT CATEGORIES? NOT UNDER THE NEW ONES. ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THAT WE GAVE IS ACTUALLY A PHYSICIAN'S OFFICE. SO I THINK THAT'S PART OF A POLICY CONVERSATION THAT THIS GROUP AND THE WHOLE COUNCIL NEEDS TO HAVE TO SEE IF YOU WANT US MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION, UM, TO NOT OVERTLY EXCLUDE THOSE TYPES OF BUSINESSES THE WAY THAT WE DO RIGHT NOW. YEAH. AND I GUESS THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE PHILOSOPHICAL CONVERSATION, RIGHT? I MEAN, IS IT, IS IT WISE FOR US TO, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT IN GOVERNMENT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF COLOR BY NUMBERS PER, YOU KNOW, MANUALS OUT THERE. AND THIS IS A COLOR BY NUMBERS MANUAL. UM, AND THE PROBLEM WITH COLOR BY NUMBERS IS THAT YOU EXCLUDE A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER COLORS. UM, 'CAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT, YOU CAN'T USE EVERY COLOR, RIGHT? UH, AND SO IN THIS INSTANCE, I DO THINK THAT SERVICES TO, YOU KNOW, MEDICAL SERVICES FOR WHICH WE'RE TRAINING FOLKS, I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE ALL CROSSING OUR FINGERS HOPING THAT THESE DOCTORS AND NURSES AND ALL THAT STAY IN SAN ANTONIO. AND IF WE'RE NOT INCENTIVIZING THOSE EMPLOYERS TO BRING THOSE, KEEP THOSE FOLKS IN SAN ANTONIO RIGHT? OR CONTINUE TO CREATE THOSE JOBS, I THINK WE MAY BE JUST GIVING AWAY JOBS TO OTHER CITIES. UM, AND I'D BE, I'D BE IN FAVOR OF REMOVING THAT RESTRICTION IF IT, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES, ESPECIALLY IF BIOSCIENCES AND MEDICAL IS ONE OF OUR, YOU KNOW, PRIORITIES. UM, ANYWAY, YOU'VE ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS. THANKS GUYS. I APPRECIATE IT. NICE TO SEE YOU, JOHN. YOU TOO. THANK YOU. UH, FOR, FOR THAT COMMENT, I, I THINK THIS IS WHY WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS AT THIS COMMITTEE TO, SO YOU ALL CAN BE PREPARED FOR WHAT, UH, QUESTIONS OR WHAT ITEMS TO BRING UP, UH, THAT WE'VE HAD IN THIS COMMITTEE. I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, YOU, I THINK YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTION ABOUT THE NONPROFITS, BUT THE OTHER THING ABOUT THE NONPROFITS, IF WE WERE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION OR IF IT WAS BROUGHT UP AGAIN, UM, I THINK WHERE I WOULD PUT A PAUSE ON IF THESE NONPROFITS ARE, ARE GOING FOR A GRANT, BUT THEN ALSO ALREADY RECEIVED FUNDING FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. MM-HMM. AND ANOTHER SUBSTANTIAL WAY, UM, OFF, OFF AS WELL. SO, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR SMALL BUSINESS GRANT EXAMPLES. WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT AMOUNTS. WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT DOLLAR AMOUNTS OR, OR YOU SAID CAPPED AT 1500. UM, BUT, BUT MY QUESTION IS HOW MANY CAN WE DO IN, IN IN A YEAR? BECAUSE IF WE HAVE SOMETHING IN, UM, I THINK OF A NEW DOCTOR'S OFFICE THAT WAS BEING, BEING BUILT IN DISTRICT THREE FOR, UH, ENDOVASCULAR A BRAND NEW FACILITY, BRINGING NEW DOCTORS, NEW OPTIONS HERE, AND THEN GOING AFTER THE SAME AMOUNT, UH, SAME DOLLARS OR SOME DOLLARS FROM SOMETHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IN A DIFFERENT AREA WITH A, I GUESS A LOWER NO, [01:00:01] A, A LOWER EQUITY MATRIX SCORE, BUT STILL, YOU KNOW, SO HOW MANY COULD WE HONESTLY DO IN A YEAR? HMM. SO THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE OUT OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE FUND. YEAH. SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE, UM, AND AS YOU GUYS KNOW, IN, IN 2021, RIGHT? WE, WE DID NOT FUND, WE FUNDED AT THE LEVEL THAT WE NEEDED TO, TO MEET OUR COMMITMENTS. SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT. MM-HMM. , UM, THERE ARE, UM, UM, THAT WOULD BE THE, THAT WOULD BE THE WAY WE WOULD FUND THIS GRANT. SO I GUESS MY SECOND QUESTION ON, ON THAT QUESTION IS, ARE WE LOOKING AT OUR THREE 12 AND THREE 80 ABATEMENTS? SO THAT'S THE ABATEMENTS, BUT OF THIS SMALL GRANT FUND, IT WOULD ALL BE TO, IT'S ALL COMING IN THE INCENTIVE FUND WHEN YOU GO TO SLIDE, UM, 14TH, I'M ON IT. YEAH. SO THERE, THERE'S THESE THREE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. YEAH. TECHNICALLY, YEAH. I COULD SEE A SITUATION WHERE WE MIGHT COMBINE A COUPLE OF THEM MM-HMM. . OKAY. UM, OR IN SOME SITUATIONS THE GRANT MAY NOT BE AN APPROPRIATE TOOL BECAUSE THE ABATEMENT MAY ALREADY BE VERY SUBSTANTIAL MM-HMM. . UM, SO IT, IT'S REALLY PROVIDING THAT TYPE OF FLEXIBILITY DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF PROJECT FOR SMALL BUSINESSES, THE, THE ABATEMENT AND THE REBATE MAY NOT NECESSARILY MAKE SENSE. GOT IT. AND THAT'S WHY THE GRANT AND JUST DOING SOME ROUGH MATH, IF WE CAPPED IT AT 1500 ANNUALLY AND FIVE JOBS, THAT'S 7,500. THAT'S THE GRANT THAT THEY WOULD GET. MM-HMM. . WELL, I DO LOVE THE SMALL BUSINESS GRANTS. UM, OPTION AND IDEA. I THINK THAT'S GREAT. AND IT ALSO GIVES THAT FLEXIBILITY EVEN, UM, IF IT'S TARGETED OR NOT. SO ON THE SMALL BUSINESS GRANTS, ARE YOU ALL STILL GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY OF, UH, TARGETED INDUSTRY OR NOT? CORRECT. YEAH. OKAY. AND IT'S ALL ABOUT THE EVALUATION CRITERIA. SO IF IT'S NOT IN A REGIONAL CENTER, BUT IT IS IN AN AREA WITH AN E EQUITY MATRIX SCORE THAT IS HIGHER, IT STILL HAS THE ABILITY TO GAIN THOSE POINTS. CORRECT. OKAY. UH, I SAY THAT COUNCIL MEMBER, I'M SORRY. 'CAUSE I LOVE THE REGIONAL CENTER IDEA, OBVIOUSLY, UH, BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO AND, BUT ONLY TWO. UM, WELL, AND THEN THREE OTHER, UH, ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY IN, IN OUR AREA. SO, BUT IT HAS BEEN GOOD. YES. JUSTINA, YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT THE EQUITY MATRIX SCORE IS WEIGHTED HEAVIER THAN THE REGIONAL CENTER. SO IF YOU HAVE A HIGHER, THE HIGHER THE EQUITY SCORE, THE LONGER THE TERM OF THE, THE AGREEMENT CAN BE. IF YOU'RE IN A REGIONAL CENTER, IT JUST ADDS TWO YEARS. SO, SO THE EQUITY MATRIX IS, IS REALLY WEIGHTED THE HEAVIEST IN TERMS OF THE LENGTH. RIGHT. OKAY. YES. AND ALSO, 'CAUSE I'M A PLANNER AND I, LIKE, WE HAVE THIS PLANNING TOOL, SO LET'S USE THIS PLANNING TOOL. DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? I DO, YEAH. BUT I OBVIOUSLY WANTED TO WAIT TILL YOU, YOU WERE FINISHED. IS THAT THEORETICALLY YOU'RE GETTING, WHEN YOU CREATE A NEW JOB, YOU'RE GETTING ABOUT THE EQUIVALENT OF 3% BACK IN TERMS OF CITY OF SAN ANTONIO REVENUE. NOW IT'S NOT, YOU CAN'T TRACK IT FOR ACCOUNTING PURPOSES. SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DEDICATED SOURCE OF MONEY TO PAY THESE JOB GRANTS. BUT ANALYTICALLY YOU CAN SAY, LOOK, WE'RE NOT REALLY, THIS ISN'T JUST A HANDOUT. WE'RE, WE'RE REATING BACK SOMETHING WE'RE GETTING MM-HMM. AGAIN BETWEEN THE FUND TRANSFER AND SALES TAX AND PROPERTY TAX AND ALL THAT. UM, HONESTLY, I MEAN, THIS IS, THIS IS JUST, THIS IS IN SOME SENSE, IT'S A POLITICAL QUESTION. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, DO YOU WANNA ALLOCATE A COUPLE MILLION BUCKS A YEAR TO THIS TO CREATE X NUMBER? CAN SOMEBODY DO 2 MILLION DIVIDED BY 1500? I CAN'T DO IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I CAN'T EITHER. BUT THAT'S, I MEAN, ANYWAY, I WAS ABOUT, SAY MARIA COULD, I'M BAD WITH MOVING THE ZEROS BACK AND FORTH, BUT I MEAN, YOU COULD EASILY SEE, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF JOBS AND THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE MEANINGFUL TO THE COMMUNITY, I BELIEVE. MM-HMM. 1,333. 1,333. THANK YOU. YEP. SO LET'S JUST SAY, LET'S JUST SAY YOU DID IT 1.5 MILLION. THAT'S A THOUSAND JOBS. THAT'S A, THAT, THAT'S A MEANINGFUL NUMBER. I REALLY THINK THAT IS, THAT'S A, THAT'S A VERY, THAT IS A MEANINGFUL NUMBER. AND THAT'S, THAT'S ASSUMING YOU, YOU GOT ALL THE WAY UP TO THE CAP, WHICH I MEAN YOU WOULDN'T NECESSARILY DO. RIGHT. AND THAT WOULD BE SPREAD OVER A LOT OF BUSINESSES. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT, THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT STORY. THAT'S A GREAT POINT RIGHT NOW NARRATIVE TO, TO SHARE THAT WE NEED TO, TO SHARE. AND THANK YOU FOR THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO THE GUIDELINES FOR THE THREE 12 AND THREE 80. I I THINK IT'S OBVIOUS, YOU HEARD A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE SAID OVER THESE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND THEY'VE BEEN SHOWN HERE. AND YOU KNOW, THAT MANY OF US, UH, BELIEVE THAT OUR FLOOR WAS LOW. UM, AND ESPECIALLY IF PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE LOOKING AT, UH, REBATES AND ABATEMENTS, UM, WE, THESE ARE JUST CERTAIN EXPECTATIONS THAT PEOPLE NEED TO HAVE ONE COMING AND WORKING WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. UM, [01:05:01] ALSO, I LIKE THE IDEA WITH THE, WELL, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE BROADBAND. I DO HAVE A QUESTION, THOUGH, ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE FIVE TOTAL POINTS, MEANING, AND THEY GET THE POINTS IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON CORRECT. ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE. RIGHT. UM, BUT DOES THAT MEAN THAT THEY CAN GO TO ANOTHER, I MEAN, ANOTHER GROUP OR, OR SOMETHING TO GET INCENTIVES LIKE TURS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? WE SHOULD DEFINITELY CONSIDER ANY OTHER SUPPORT, UHHUH PUBLIC SUPPORT, UM, WHEN WE'RE CONSIDERING PROPERTY, ANY KIND OF INCENTIVE SUPPORT AS WELL. RIGHT. UM, COUNCILWOMAN, IF I COULD, YES. GENERALLY OUR TOURS AGREEMENTS, UM, HAVE A PROVISION THAT DOES NOT ALLOW OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDING. OKAY. UM, WHETHER IT BE FROM COUNTY OR ANOTHER, UH, CITY FUNDING SOURCE. OKAY. BUT NOT, BUT A THREE 80. SO THEY COULD ONLY DO A THREE 80 AND NOT A TSS. IT WOULD BE EITHER OR. RIGHT. OKAY. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. OR A MIX OF FUNDING FROM THE AND THE CITY. SO WE DO HAVE SOME AGREEMENTS WHERE, UH, FUNDING COMES FROM THET AND IT SWITCHES OVER TO CITY FUNDS. AND SO IT'S A MIX OF BOTH, BUT NOT BOTH AT THE SAME TIME. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, BUT YES, I THINK YOU STILL NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE THE IMPACT. THEY GET POINTS, BUT THEN WHAT'S HAPPENING FURTHER ON DOWN THE, THE LINE. UM, I AM, I'M VERY EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT THIS. I'M VERY EXCITED TO SEE WHAT YOU ALL ARE GONNA PRESENT TO, UH, COUNCIL ON, OR THE FULL COUNCIL ON JUNE 9TH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER, OH, ONE OTHER ONE. I THINK THESE, UH, EVALUATION CRITERIA INSTEAD OF QUALIFYING PRIORITIES IS BETTER. 'CAUSE I BELIEVE IT CLOSES LOOPHOLES THAT HAD EXISTED. SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT. SO WHO ARE THE EVALUATORS? CITY STAFF. MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. CITY STAFF. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? WE DON'T NEED A MOTION. WE'RE JUST GONNA MOVE, THIS'LL DO THE FULL BRIEFING, UH, NEXT WEEK. OKAY. AND, BUT THE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE SHARED HERE ARE GONNA BE REFLECTIVE IN THAT. WELL, GREAT. I THINK Y'ALL ARE ON THE WRONG. THE, I THINK Y'ALL ARE ON THE RIGHT PATH, AND I'M VERY EXCITED TO SEE THIS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WORK. THANK YOU. YOU, JOHN. THANK APPRECIATE IT. GOOD. SEE Y ALL. ALL [3. 21-4053 Update on the Hospitality Grants Program that assists businesses during the COVID-19 pandemic. [Alejandra Lopez; Assistant City Manager and Interim Director, Economic Development] ] RIGHT. LET'S MOVE OVER TO THE NEXT ITEM, ITEM NUMBER THREE. OOPS. THANK YOU. YOU TOO. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY, CHAIRING AND GO AHEAD. COMMITTEE. ANN EATON WILL BE GIVING OUR UPDATE ON THE HOSPITALITY GRANTS. JUST AS A, A QUICK NOTE, UM, YOU'RE GONNA HEAR IT DURING HER PRESENTATION. THE DEADLINE FOR THE DISTRIBUTION OF ALL THE FUNDS IS ACTUALLY JUNE 7TH. SO WE'RE REALLY, REALLY CLOSE. BUT WE WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND LET YOU KNOW, UM, WHERE WE WERE, UM, AND WHAT WE THINK WE'RE STILL GONNA BE ABLE TO DO, UH, OF COURSE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH LIFTFUND OVER THE NEXT WEEK. SO I'LL TURN OVER TO ANNE. HI ANNE. HI EVERYONE. I FEEL LIKE I'M, YOU GUYS ARE REAL CELEBRITIES 'CAUSE I SEE YOU ON TV ALL THE TIME, . SO IT FEELS LIKE A LOT OF FIRSTS TODAY, YOU KNOW, UH, SO YOU ALL, I CAME IN HERE AND I WAS LIKE, WOW, THERE THEY ARE. , THEY'RE REAL. IT'S REALLY NICE TO BE BACK. UM, I'M EXCITED TO GIVE YOU THE UPDATE TODAY. UH, WE THANK YOU AGAIN, THE LIFT FUND, UM, SELENA'S LISTENING IN AND TO JANIE FOR THEIR SUPPORT AND HELPING US AMBITIOUSLY MEET OUR DEADLINE OF JUNE 7TH. AND WE ARE ON SCHEDULE TO DO THAT. SO EXCITED TO REPORT THAT TODAY, TODAY'S PRESENTATION. I'M GOING TO RECAP SOME OF OUR ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA AND THINGS OF SUCH TO REMIND THE COMMITTEE OF THE, OF THE GUIDANCE AND THE DIRECTION THAT WE PROCEEDED WHEN WE INITIATED THE PROGRAM. I'LL SUMMARIZE THE GRANT APPLICANTS AND THEN ALSO SUMMARIZE THE GRANT AWARDS AS OF MAY 24TH. I'LL PROVIDE YOU INFORMATION THAT REFLECTS THOSE AWARDS BY GENDER, RACE COUNCIL DISTRICT, AND ALSO SPEAK TO THE, UH, AWARDS BY THE HOSPITALITY SUB-SECTOR. AND THEN KIND OF BREAK DOWN WHERE WE WILL CONTINUE TO PROCEED AS WE WRAP UP THE PROGRAM HERE VERY SOON. IF YOU'LL RECALL, COUNCIL TOOK ACTION ON FEBRUARY 18TH TO ALLOCATE ADDITIONAL $14 MILLION IN GRANTS TO, FOR HOSPITALITY BUSINESSES. WE THEN PRESENTED TO THIS COUNCIL COMMITTEE, UM, ALSO TO GET, UM, YOU KNOW, DIRECTION AS WE MOVED FORWARD WITH THE PROGRAM. AND YOU CAN SEE THE TABLE ON THE LEFT REFLECTS THE BREAKDOWN OF THE FUNDING FOR EACH OF THOSE ITEMS TO ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM. ON THE RIGHT, YOU'LL SEE THE TABLE THAT REFLECTS THE SIZE CATEGORIES THAT WERE CREATED FOR THIS GRANT PROGRAM AND THE MAXIMUM GRANT [01:10:01] AWARD AMOUNT. AS A REMINDER, THIS GRANT PROGRAM DID EXPAND BEYOND 20 EMPLOYEES AS LONG AS BUSINESSES WERE IN ALIGN WITH SS B A SIZE STANDARDS. ON THIS SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE JUST A REMINDER OF THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA, MOST NOTABLY, THE INCREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT WAS PERMITTED FOR SMALL BUSINESSES. WE ALSO PUSHED FORWARD THE DATE TO MARCH, I'M SORRY, TO FEBRUARY 1ST, UM, FOR THOSE TO HAVE BEEN IN OPERATION COMPARED TO THE LAST GRANTS PROGRAM. AND THEN LASTLY, CONTINUING THE COMMITMENT TO OUR GREATER SAFER TOGETHER PLEDGE. SO NEXT I WANNA RECAP A SUMMARY OF THE GRANT APPLICANTS. SO OVERALL, WE RECEIVED JUST OVER 740 APPLICATIONS. HOWEVER, WHEN THEY WERE REVIEWED FOR ELIGIBILITY, UH, 677 OF THOSE FELL WITHIN CITY LIMITS. SO THEY WERE MOVED ON TO CONSIDERATION ON THAT TABLE. ON THE LEFT, YOU'LL SEE THE DISTRIBUTION OF THOSE APPLICANTS BY COUNCIL DISTRICT. THEN YOU'LL, THEY'LL ALSO REFLECT THE DATA THAT SHOWS HOW MANY MALE OWNED BUSINESS OWNERS FOR COMPARED TO WOMEN OWNED BUSINESS OWNERS. AND THEN A BREAKDOWN BY THE REPORTED RACE ON THE APPLICATION. WE DID WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS IN I T S D TO HAVE THIS INFORMATION MAPPED TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE APP, YOU KNOW, THE APPLICATIONS CAME IN FROM. WE PREVIOUSLY SHARED THIS WITH YOU. WE'RE HAPPY TO SHARE IT AGAIN IF NEEDED. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS TELLS US A GOOD KIND OF VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF WHERE THOSE APPLICATIONS CAME IN FROM AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK FORWARD WITH DIFFERENT EFFORTS IN OUR SMALL BUSINESS OFFICE. SO NEXT, I'LL SUMMARIZE THE GRANT AWARDS AND WHERE WE STAND AS OF MAY 24TH. SO OVERALL, WE LAUNCHED THE PROGRAM ON MARCH 15TH. IT WAS OPEN FOR THREE WEEKS, UM, THROUGH APRIL 5TH. LIFTFUND BEGAN THEIR APPLICATION REVIEW AND A VERIFICATION OF DOCUMENTATION AND WORKING WITH BUSINESSES TO GET THAT INFORMATION IN TO MOVE THIS ALONG AS, UM, SPEEDILY AS POSSIBLE. AS MENTIONED, WE ARE ON SCHEDULE TO DISTRIBUTE ALL AWARDS BY JUNE 7TH. SO WE'RE EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS DONE IN JUST OVER 60 DAYS. UM, AGAIN, GETTING THE FUNDS OUT TO SMALL BUSINESSES AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SO OF THE 677 APPLICANTS 177 WERE REMOVED FOR NOT MEETING ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA. AND THE TOP THREE REASONS FOR NOT MEETING CRITERIA WAS THAT THEY, UPON DOCUMENT VERIFICATION, THEY WERE FOUND TO EITHER BE A PROHIBITED INDUSTRY THAT WASN'T ELIGIBLE FOR THE PROGRAM TO APPLY. THEY WEREN'T ELIGIBLE, THEY WERE A NATIONAL FRANCHISE. AND THEN LASTLY THAT THEY WEREN'T ABLE, THEY DIDN'T PROVE THAT THEY EXPERIENCED LOSS AND IN FACT MAY HAVE HAD AN INCREASE IN REVENUE. SO THOSE TOP THREE REASONS ENCOMPASS ABOUT 78% OF THAT 177 THAT WERE REMOVED. SO THAT LEAVES US WITH ABOUT 500 APPLICANTS THAT WERE REMAINING TO DATE. 366 HAVE BEEN IDENT IDENTIFIED FOR AWARD TOTALING $9.9 MILLION. IN FACT, THAT $9.9 MILLION HAS BEEN PAID OUT TO THESE SMALL BUSINESSES. THERE WAS APPROXIMATELY 5.7 MILLION PAID OUT ON MAY 18TH, AND THEN A 4.2 MILLION PAID OUT ON MAY 27TH. AND OF THE REMAINING JUST UNDER $3.2 MILLION WE'RE ESTIMATED TO FUND AN ADDITIONAL 70 TO 90 GRANT. AND WE'RE HOPING TO DO THAT EITHER TOWARDS THE END OF THIS WEEK, BUT BEFORE THAT JUNE 7TH ON OR BEFORE THE JUNE 7TH DEADLINE. SO WE'RE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH, WITH YOU. ALL OF THOSE 134 THAT ARE REMAINING, A MAJORITY OF THEM ARE FOOD AND BEVERAGE BUSINESSES. THERE'S ABOUT A LITTLE BIT OVER 105 OF THEM. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH LIFTFUND TO IDENTIFY THOSE LAST REMAINING AWARDS, AND AGAIN, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REACH AS MANY AS POSSIBLE. SO, OF THE GRANT AWARDS TO DATE THIS SLIDE HERE REFLECTS THE AWARD BY GENDER AND RACE AND ETHNICITY. I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT IF YOU LOOK BACK ON THE APPLICATIONS, ALTHOUGH WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES WERE ONLY ABOUT 35% OF THE APPLICATIONS TO DATE, NEARLY 46% OF THE AWARDS ARE WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES. SECONDLY, YOU'LL SEE HERE, UM, THE BREAKDOWN BY RACE AND A MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE TWO BUSINESSES OF COLOR. WE DID ALSO WANNA NOTE AND SHARE WITH THE COMMITTEE THAT WE HAVE SCREENED THOSE, THOSE AWARD RECIPIENTS TO DATE. AND SO FAR, ABOUT 26.2% OF THE GRANT RECIPIENTS DID ALSO RECEIVE THE RECOVERY GRANT. AND AGAIN, ONE OF THE GOALS WAS TO TRY TO REACH AS MANY THAT MAY HAVE NOT BEEN ASSISTED BEFORE. SO, BECAUSE THAT NUMBER IS LOWER THAN THAT THRESHOLD, WE SAID WE ARE, WE'RE HAPPY TO REPORT THAT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE. WE'RE ALSO WORKING TO UNDERSTAND HOW MANY OF THOSE BUSINESSES THAT RECEIVED AWARDS MAY HAVE ALSO RECEIVED P P P, JUST TO UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE [01:15:01] ACCESSING AND WHAT THEY'RE AWARE OF. SO I DON'T HAVE THAT DATA TODAY, BUT WE'LL BE MAKING SURE THAT, UM, AS WE REPORT CLOSEOUTS AND THINGS THAT WE CAN BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT WITH THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE. SO THIS TABLE HERE, BEAR WITH ME. I KNOW IT HAS A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT I'M GOING TO KIND OF WALK US THROUGH IT. SO IF YOU'LL RECALL, THE GRANTS PROGRAM WAS PARTICULARLY FOCUSED ON HOSPITALITY BUSINESSES. SO WE HAVE THE FOUR, UH, SUB-SECTORS, FOOD AND BEVERAGE, LODGING, ENTERTAINMENT, AND TRANSPORTATION. AND THAT SECOND COLUMN THAT DESCRIBES THE AVAILABLE FUNDING, UM, THAT WAS THE GUIDANCE OF THE AMOUNT THAT WAS ALLOCATED TOWARDS EACH, EACH OF THOSE SUB-SECTOR SUB-SECTORS AND PROPORTIONAL TO THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT THEY HAD. SO AS OF MAY 24TH, IN THAT THIRD COLUMN, YOU'LL SEE HOW MUCH HAS BEEN PAID OUT TO DATE FOR EACH OF THOSE SUB-SECTORS FOLLOWING THE FOURTH COLUMN THAT REFLECTS THE BALANCE AND WHERE WE STAND. SO THAT FOURTH COLUMN, THE BALANCE OF AVAILABLE FUNDING, THOSE FOUR AMOUNTS TOTAL, THAT JUST UNDER 3.2 MILLION. AND WHAT IT REMAINS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF AWARDS AS OF MAY 24TH, YOU CAN SEE 263, FOR EXAMPLE, WERE FOOD AND BEVERAGE TYPE BUSINESSES. JUST ABOUT 72%, WHICH IS ALSO PROPORTIONAL TO THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT WE PROVIDED. SO IT'S NICE THAT IT'S KIND OF WORKED OUT THAT WAY. THE AVERAGE AWARD PER SUB-SECTOR, IF WE LOOK AT THE GRANT AWARDS THAT HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN PAID OUT, THOSE AVERAGES ARE LOOKING AT HOW MUCH EACH OF THOSE GRANT AWARDS AVERAGE PER EACH OF THOSE SUB-SECTORS. AND THEN THE MAX AWARD, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME OF THE LARGER AWARDS FOR EACH OF THE DIFFERENT SUB SUB-SECTORS. AND AGAIN, THE AWARD AMOUNT IS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT ARE VERIFIED IN Q FOUR OF 2020. AND ALSO, UM, THE BUSINESSES SHOWING THE EVIDENCE OF LOSS IN LIFT FUND, DOING THEIR FINANCIAL CALCULATIONS. ON THIS SLIDE HERE, YOU'LL SEE THE NUMBER OF AWARDS AND THE AMOUNT AWARDED BY EACH OF THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS. SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO UPDATE THIS INFORMATION AS WE WORK THROUGH THE BALANCE OF THE 3.2 THAT'S REMAINING AND THE LAST 134 APPLICANTS. UM, WE'RE STILL WORKING TO KIND OF LOOK AT EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE GONNA FALL, BUT WE'RE OPTIMISTIC THAT WE'LL REACH MOST OF THE ELIGIBLE BUSINESSES THAT REMAIN IN THE APPLICANTS THAT REMAIN. SO AGAIN, WE'LL BE PROVIDE A MORE FINAL UPDATE AS WE WORK THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE PROGRAM. BUT, UM, WE ARE IN A GOOD PLACE TO HOPEFULLY REACH MANY OF THE ONES THAT REMAIN SO WE'LL. AS I MENTIONED, WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH LIFTFUND. UM, EXCITED TO HAVE THE JUNE 7TH AND ACCOMPLISH TO HAVE ACCOMPLISHED THIS WITHIN 60 DAYS. YOU KNOW, THANK YOU AGAIN TO OUR PARTNERS AT LIFTFUND WHO ARE INCREDIBLE TO WORK WITH AND WHO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND TO HELP OUR SMALL BUSINESSES AND CONNECT THEM WITH NOT ONLY THIS GRANT OPPORTUNITY, BUT MAKING SURE THEY'RE AWARE OF OTHER RESOURCES. SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, ANNE. UH, THAT'S A LOT OF WORK THAT YOU AND LIFTFUND HAVE BEEN DOING. UH, THESE, GOSH, IT'S, I CAN'T BELIEVE SO MUCH TIME HAS PASSED ALREADY SINCE FEBRUARY AND ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN BEEN GOING ON. DO MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER GABRIEL HAVE, I'M SORRY MY MACHINE ISN'T WORKING HERE, BUT CAN YOU BACK UP NUMBER THREE? CAN YOU TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE? THIS YOU ALREADY, IT'S GOOD YOU DIDN'T CATCH THAT OTHER STUFF. UM, SO I GUESS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WAS THAT THE HOSPITALITY GRANT RECIPIENTS, THOSE ARE THE FOUR, UH, CATEGORIES, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. OF THE INDUSTRY. THESE ARE THE FOUR SUB-SECTORS THAT WERE, UM, ELIGIBLE IN THIS GRANTS PROGRAM. AND THEN WE JUST BASICALLY KIND OF SPELLED OUT HOW THE FUNDING WAS ALLOCATED. AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THAT, UM, EARLIER OR A PREVIOUS PRESENTATION WHEN WE PROVIDED THE RECOMMENDATION AND THEN WHERE WE STAND TO DATE ON HOW MUCH HAS BEEN PAID OUT TO EACH OF THOSE SUB-SECTORS AND HOW MUCH REMAINS. SO I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA. THESE ARE NOT, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FOOD AND BEVERAGE CHAINS AND, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT WHAT WAS THE ACTUAL CRITERIA? LIKE? IS IT NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES OR, YES, MA'AM. LET ME GET TO THE SLIDE AND WE CAN HELP ME TO WALK YOU THROUGH THAT. OH, HERE, IT'S OKAY. SO A MAJORITY, AS I MENTIONED, OF THOSE THAT WERE REMOVED FOR NOT BEING ELIGIBLE WERE RELATED TO EITHER BEING A PROHIBITED INDUSTRY AND OR A NATIONAL FRANCHISE. SO THEY MIGHT HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHEN LIFT LIFTFUND DID THEIR DOCUMENT VERIFICATION, THEY ARE LISTED AS A NATIONAL FRANCHISE. AND, AND, AND FOR THE C COMMITTEE'S REFERENCE, THERE IS A SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION RESOURCE THAT THEY GO BACK AND LOOK AT. WE'RE BUSINESSES THAT ARE CONSIDERED NATIONAL FRANCHISES ARE LISTED. SO THAT'S HOW THEY VERIFY THAT INFORMATION. UM, SO WHEN IT CAME TO EMPLOYEES, THAT WAS REALLY EXPANDED UPON IN THIS GRANTS PROGRAM. SO [01:20:01] PREVIOUSLY WE HAD RESTAURANTS THAT MAY HAVE HAD LIKE 25 OR 30 EMPLOYEES AND THEY WERE EXCLUDED IN THE RECOVERY GRANTS PROGRAM BECAUSE OF THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA. HOWEVER, IN THIS ONE, THAT NUMBER WAS CLOSER TO 200. AGAIN, ALLOWING FOR THAT EXPANSION AND THAT CONSIDERATION. AND EVEN THE REVENUE, IF YOU'LL RECALL, IN THE LAST GRANTS PROGRAM, IT WAS $2 MILLION. THIS ONE EXPANDED TO $8 MILLION. AGAIN, ACCOUNTING FOR THAT INCREASE IN SIZE. SO MANY OF THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN EXCLUDED TO DATE ARE ESPECIALLY RELATED TO FOOD AND BEVERAGE IS NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE OF, I ACTUALLY HAVEN'T SEEN ANY THAT HAVE BEEN EXCLUDED TO NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES. IT'S BEEN DIRECTLY RELATED TO BEING A FRANCHISE AND OR, UM, NOT SHOWING EVIDENCE OF PERCENT OF LOSS OF REVENUE. AND THEN, UM, OH, THIS, THE 1 77 APPLICATIONS THAT WERE DEEMED INELIGIBLE, WAS THERE A COMMON ISSUE THAT DISQUALIFIED THEM? I HAVE A FLOOR IS THE BACK. THIS IS THE BACKUP PRESENTATION. IT, THE BACKUP SIDES ARE , YOU'LL BEAR WITH ME. I CAN SHARE WITH YOU A BREAKDOWN OF ALL OF THOSE TO KIND OF TALK YOU THROUGH. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, UM, THIS TABLE REFLECTS THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN EXCLUDED TO DATE. AND THE REASON FOR THAT EXCLUSION, AS I MENTIONED, PROHIBIT INDUSTRY, NATIONAL FRANCHISE, AND PERCENT LOSSES, UM, NOT PROVEN. WERE THE TOP THREE REASONS. AND THAT ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT 78% OF THOSE, UM, REMOVALS, WE HAD 14% OF DUPLICATE APPLICATION AND 10 THAT HAVE NOT RESPONDED. UM, I DO WANNA SHARE THAT LIFTFUND MAKES SEVERAL EFFORTS TO CONTACT BUSINESSES NOT ONLY VIA EMAIL, BUT BY PHONE TRYING TO SET UP APPOINTMENTS TO MAKE SURE TO HELP THEM, UM, SUBMIT THEIR DOCUMENTATION. AND, AND SOMETIMES BUSINESS, THERE'S BEEN A FEW BUSINESSES THAT HAVE JUST DETERMINED THAT THEY DIDN'T WANNA PURSUE THE APPLICATION. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE THAT THE REASONS HERE, UM, HAVE BEEN MOSTLY RELATED TO BEING A NATIONAL FRANCHISE OR BEING A PROHIBITED INDUSTRY. SO NOT FALLING WITHIN HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY. AND ALMOST 20% IS JUST PEOPLE THAT JUST MADE MISTAKES. RIGHT. DUPLICATE APPLICATION OR DIDN'T RESPOND. IT WASN'T ANYTHING TO DO WITH, UH, ABOUT 8%. YEAH. 14 OF 'EM. WELL, THOSE LAST THREE I THINK. I FEEL LIKE THOSE ARE KIND OF DISQUALIFIED. YOU DIDN'T MAKE THAT DETERMINATION THAT THEY ARE NOT ELIGIBLE. THEY WERE SORT OF DEFAULTED, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. YEAH. CLOSE TO 20% OR 14%. YEAH. THE NO RESPONSE, THE BUSINESS AT OPERATIONAL AND THE OTHER, THOSE ARE KIND OF LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, WHERE THEY REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND THE INDIVIDUAL WHO SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION AND ENDED UP NOT BEING THE AUTHORIZED BUSINESS OWNER. OH, OKAY. SO THINGS OF THAT NATURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER GARCIA. THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU. AND, UM, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY NATIONAL FRANCHISES WE HAVE LOCATED IN THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS BY ANY CHANCE? I DO. NOT COUNCILWOMAN, BUT I'M SURE WE CAN EASE, WE CAN FIND THAT INFORMATION AND REPORT THAT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE. THANK YOU. I KNOW THAT I HAVE A LOT IN MY AREA, BUT I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, UM, JUST TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND ALSO, UM, NOT SHOW THE, THE PART THAT YOU MENTIONED, UM, THAT SOME OF THEM WERE NOT ABLE TO SHOW EVIDENCE OF REVENUE LOSS. CAN YOU ALSO GIVE US A, A, A BREAKDOWN, OR AT LEAST I, I'D LIKE TO SEE A BREAKDOWN TO SEE IF ANY OF THOSE WERE IN DISTRICT FOUR? I THINK THAT, UM, A LOT OF OUR BUSINESS OWNERS NEED A WHOLE LOT OF, UH, HELP. UM, AND SO BOOKKEEPING AND EVERYTHING REALLY BECOMES, UH, SOMETHING THAT COULD IMPACT THEM EVENTUALLY. RIGHT. AND SO I, I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. AND THEN I ALSO WANTED TO ASK, DO YOU, IS THERE A THEORY AS TO WHY A LOT OF THE FOLKS THAT APPLIED WERE AMONGST MAJOR CORRIDORS OR IT LOOKS LIKE JUST FROM THE MAP? SO TO ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION, YEAH, WE'LL CERTAINLY FOLLOW BACK UP WITH THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE, AS I MENTIONED ABOUT THE, IF WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE LIST OF NATIONAL FRANCHISES BY COUNCIL DISTRICT AND HOW THAT CONCENTRATION MAY LOOK TO ANSWER YOUR SECOND QUESTION ON THE PERCENT LOSSES NOT PROVEN. I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, ALEX CAN ATTEST TO THIS, THAT THAT WAS, UM, A LESSON LEARNED VERY MUCH IN THE RECOVERY GRANTS PROGRAM, RIGHT? THAT THAT DISPARITY REALLY CAME TO LIGHT ABOUT THE LACK OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE ACCOUNTING SKILLS MM-HMM. . AND SO FOR THAT REASON, THAT'S WHY WE HAD LIFTFUND EXPAND UPON THEIR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND IN THIS RECOVERY GRANTS PROGRAM TO ALLOW THEM TO NOT ONLY COME IN FOR A DIRECT ONE-ON-ONE AND TO BE ABLE TO SCAN THOSE DOCUMENTS, BUT ALSO HOW WE MADE SURE THAT THE PROGRAM WAS MALLEABLE. AND THE FACT THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A HARD SET, UM, LIST OF DOCUMENTS. THERE WAS FLEXIBILITY AND HOW THAT PERCENT LOSS COULD BE PROVEN. THERE WAS ACTUALLY THREE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT A BUSINESS COULD SHOW PERCENT LOSS. FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THEY COULD SHOW 2019 COMPARED TO 2020, OR THEY COULD SHOW ONE QUARTER OF 2020 VERSUS ANOTHER QUARTER OF 2020. SO WE ARE AWARE OF THAT, AND THAT'S ONE THING WE'RE TRYING TO BE SENSITIVE AND ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT CREATING BARRIERS TO BUSINESSES. BUT I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE A FURTHER LOOK [01:25:01] WITH LIFTFUND AT, AT THOSE DENIALS TO ENSURE THAT WE DIDN'T MISS ANY BARRIERS. BUT I KNOW LIFTFUND HAS REALLY GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND TO BE CREATIVE AND FLEXIBLE WITH EACH OF THOSE BUSINESSES. AND, AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE SET FORWARD AS, AS AN EXPECTATION. OKAY. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU ANN. THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS. CHAIR, COUNCILOR, PLEASE. NO. UM, A COUPLE QUESTIONS. FIRST TO THAT NOTE WHERE COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA WAS FROM THE, OF THE 177 REMOVED, CAN YOU, UM, PLOT THOSE OUT OF WHERE THEY WERE LOCATED? UM, JUST THROUGHOUT THE CITY, PLEASE. AND THEN SECOND, WHAT WAS THE TOTAL DOLLAR REQUESTS? UM, 'CAUSE I SEE THAT WE'VE AWARDED 9.9 MILLION, BUT WHAT WAS THE TOTAL REQUEST FROM THE 740 APPLICATIONS THAT WE'VE, WE HAD? SO OF THE ELIGIBLE 677, UM, I WILL CONFIRM THIS NUMBER COUNCILMAN, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS JUST OVER 29 MILLION OF THE AMOUNT REQUESTED. AGAIN, I WILL CONFIRM THAT AND WE'LL REPORT THAT BACK. BUT, UM, THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT I'M RECALLING RIGHT NOW. OKAY. SO WE HAD 14 MILLION DESIGNATED, BUT IT WAS, UH, 29 MILLION AT LEAST THAT WAS, UH, REQUESTED. YES, MA'AM. THAT WAS REQUESTED. OKAY. THOSE ARE ALL OF MY QUESTIONS. I, AGAIN, WANT TO THANK A LIFT FRONT FOR THEIR DILIGENCE INTO THE SMALL BUSINESSES. UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING AND YOU WILL HAVE SOMETHING BY JUNE 7TH. SO, UH, ARE WE GOING TO DO, WHAT IS THE FOLLOW UP WORK THAT WE'RE DOING WITH THESE, UM, WITH THE BUSINESSES? THERE'S A CLOSE OUT REPORT WOULD TRACK A LITTLE BIT MORE PROCESS IN THE HEALTH ABUSE, RIGHT? SORRY, THERE'S A CLOSEOUT REPORT THAT I THINK ANN CAN SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILS ABOUT. SO RIGHT. WE'LL CONDUCT A KIND OF A POST PROGRAM FOLLOW UP TO SEE WHERE BUSINESSES ARE, TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY WERE ABLE TO USE THE FUNDS. UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS IS LIKE, WHAT OTHER RESOURCES DO YOU NEED? DO YOU NEED CONNECTION WITH, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE OR MARKETING SKILLS? WE TRY TO ENSURE THAT WE CONNECT THEM WITH OUR OTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS, SUCH AS PROSPER WEST OR SOUTH SIDE FIRST. MM-HMM. , UM, MAKING THEM AWARE OF, YOU KNOW, OTHER SMALL BUSINESS RESOURCES. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE SPEAK TO THEM, WE TRY TO, YOU KNOW, OUR SMALL BUSINESS FEE WAIVER PROGRAM, ALL THESE DIFFERENT OTHER TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING. YOU KNOW, HOW CAN YOU DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY? SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE RECOVERY PROGRAM, WE'VE DEVELOPED A REALLY ROBUST DATA BASE OF ABOUT 9,000, 10,000 BUSINESSES. SO WE HAVE CREATED CONTACT LISTS AND WE SEND THEM E-BLAST PROBABLY EVERY TWO WEEKS WITH VARIOUS RESOURCES AS THINGS COME OUT. SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO LEVERAGE THAT CONTACT LIST. UM, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, JUST CONTINUING TO CONNECT THEM WITH THOSE RESOURCES. UM, NOT ONLY THE CITY ONES, BUT FOR EXAMPLE, THE RECENT, UH, RESTAURANT REVITALIZATION FUND. RIGHT? WE WORK, WE MADE SURE TO GET THAT WORD OUT. MM-HMM. , WE MAILED POSTCARDS. SO USING THAT INFORMATION AND STARTING TO BUILD THESE RELATIONSHIPS TO CONTINUE TO GET THE WORD OUT AND, YOU KNOW, ASSIST OUR SMALL BUSINESSES. I DID WANNA NOTE, UM, SOME BUSINESSES FROM EACH OF YOUR DISTRICTS THAT RECEIVE BRANDS, ESPECIALLY RELATED TO KIND OF THE ENTERTAINMENT AND TRANSPORTATION. I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T, UH, MENTION THIS WHEN I WAS SHOWING THE ONE SLIDE, BUT SOME EXAMPLE OF THE ENTERTAINMENT. WE HEARD SOME GREAT FEEDBACK, YOU KNOW, EVENT PROMOTERS AND THEATERS AND DANCE COMPANIES AND, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE REALLY AFFECTED BY THE, UM, THE PANDEMIC. SO GALAXY PRODUCTIONS IN DISTRICT FIVE, UM, K OSO ENTERTAINMENT AND DISTRICT SIX WAS ABLE TO RECEIVE A GRANT, THE HOT WELLS BALLROOM, UH, TRANSPORTATION COMPANIES, ALAMO HELICOPTER TOURS IN DISTRICT THREE, VEEVA SAN ANTONIO TOURS IN DISTRICT EIGHT, WHITEHORSE AND CARRIAGE COMPANY IN DISTRICT SIX. AND THEN SOME OF OUR LODGING, UM, YOU KNOW, BUSINESSES SUCH AS EL PAIZANO MOTEL AND PAIZANO MOTEL AND MOONLIGHT MOTEL IN DISTRICT FOUR, WE'RE ABLE TO GET A GRANT AWARD, ROOSEVELT AND IN DISTRICT THREE. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SO JUST SOME GREAT WINS FOR, FOR BUSINESSES ACROSS THE CITY. SO THANK YOU. AND THAT'S GOOD. I'M GLAD TO HEAR SOME OF THESE, UH, UH, PLACES GOT THOSE AWARDS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LOOK FORWARD TO IT. AND CONGRATULATIONS ON ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE TOO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND THERE'S NO ACTION. THAT WAS A BRIEFING PURPOSES ONLY, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND [4. 21-4055 Briefing on the Train for Jobs SA program, which implements the Workforce Development Pillar within the COVID-19 Community Recovery and Resiliency Plan. [Alejandra Lopez; Assistant City Manager and Interim Director, Economic Development] ] WE'LL NOW GO TO THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. IT'S A BRIEFING, UM, ITEM FOUR BRIEFING ON THE TRAIN FOR JOBS SA PROGRAM. THANK YOU CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. HE'S ACTUALLY GONNA DO OUR UPDATE TODAY, UM, SHARING A LOT OF DETAILS, A LOT OF OF DATA ABOUT OUR, OUR CURRENT PROGRAM, OUR TRAIN FOR JOBS PROGRAM. [01:30:01] IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF MONTHS SINCE WE'VE SHARED SOME OF THIS DATA, SO WE WANTED TO KIND OF GO A LITTLE DEEP ON SOME OF THIS. WELCOME HEBER. HELLO. HELLO. IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE. IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE IN PERSON. UM, AND MAKE SURE YOUR MIC IS ON. ALL RIGHT. AS I MENTIONED, IT'S WONDERFUL TO BE ABLE TO BE HERE, TO BE IN PERSON. UH, GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT, UH, AN UPDATE ON THE TRAIN FOR JOBS ESSAY PROGRAM. AS YOU RECALL, A YEAR AGO, THE, THE CITY TRIED TO ADDRESS A LOT OF THE CONCERN RELATING CO TO COVID, ONE OF WHICH WAS THE UNEMPLOYMENT. UM, AS I BEGAN THE, MY UPDATE ON THE TRAIN FOR JOBS PROGRAM, I WANNA START WITH, UH, TWO BRIEF STORIES. IF THERE WE GO. TWO BRIEF STORIES ABOUT SOME OF THE PARTICIPANTS THAT WE'VE HAD SO FAR. FIRST, WE HAVE JARED ANTHONY, JARED. ANTHONY IS A 33 YEAR OLD WHO STARTED THE TRAIN FOR JOBS, UH, THROUGH, UH, THROUGH ALAMO COLLEGES, ONE OF OUR PARTNERS IN OCTOBER. AND HE HAS BEEN WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY TO BE ABLE TO, UH, RECEIVE THE ADDED TRAINING THAT HE NEED. HE WENT THROUGH THE EXPLORATORY PROCESS, UM, AND HE HAS BEEN THUS FAR ACING ALL OF HIS CLASSES DUE TO A LOT OF THE HELP AND THE RESOURCES THAT ARE BEING AVAILABLE THROUGH THE TRAIN FOR JOBS, BECAUSE HE'S BEEN ABLE TO FOCUS ON, ON THE WORK THAT HE'S DOING, AND HE'S HOPING TO BE, AND HE'S ON HIS WAY TO BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THAT TRAINING, UM, AND TO BE ABLE TO FIND THAT MEANINGFUL EMPLOYMENT THAT HE'S SEARCHING FOR. UH, THE SECOND STORY I HAVE IS, UH, JOLYN ADAMS, WHO IS A PARTICIPANT OF THE PROGRAM, UH, THROUGH RESTORE EDUCATION. ANOTHER ONE OF OUR PARTNERS, UH, JESSALYN. SHE GRADUATED FROM THE PROGRAM AS A MEDICAL ASSISTANT AFTER COMPLETING HER CERTIFICATE OVER A PERIOD OF ONE MONTH, UM, SORRY, OVER A PERIOD OF THREE MONTHS. AND WITHIN A PERIOD OF LESS THAN A MONTH, SHE RECEIVED HER EMPLOYMENT AND IS NOW AND IS CURRENTLY EMPLOYED WITH U H SS. SO THESE ARE, THESE ARE TWO OF THE EXAMPLES OF THE 578 PARTICIPANTS, UH, THAT ARE CURRENTLY ENROLLED IN THE TRAIN FOR JOBS PROGRAM. UH, THIS SLIDE IS, UM, AN EX EXAMPLE OF BREAKDOWN OF SOME OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS ASSOCIATED WITH IT. AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE SEVEN, SEVEN OR FIVE 5,700 PARTICIPANTS. AN ADDITIONAL 1,400 ARE IN THE EXPLORATORY AT THE BEGINNING ENROLLMENT PHASE. AND SO IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THOSE THAT PARTICIPANT. BUT THUS FAR WE HAVE, UH, OF THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN ENROLLED, ENROLLED IN THE PARTI IN THE PROGRAM. 66% ARE WOMEN, UH, 65% ARE HAS HISPANIC, UM, AND 58% ARE HAVE AN EQUITY MATRIX STORE OF SIX OR ABOVE, UH, ALL OF WHICH ARE HITTING THE TARGET. THE GOAL, THE PROGRAM'S TARGET, OH, UH, THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, DEMONSTRATES THE LEVEL OF EDUCATION THAT THE PARTICIPANTS CAME INTO THE PROGRAM. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, OVER 53% OF THE PARTICIPANTS THAT ARE ENROLLED IN THE PROGRAM, UM, HAVE NO, NOTHING HIGHER THAN A HIGH SCHOOL, UM, EDUCATION. UH, 61% OF THE PARTICIPANTS HAVE DECLARED THEMSELVES TO BE LIVING, UM, BELOW POVERTY, POVERTY LEVELS, UH, WHILE 37%, UH, WERE PREVIOUSLY WORKING IN INDUSTRIES THAT WERE HARDEST HIT, UM, BY C O V. UH, THIS OF COURSE INCLUDES THE HOSPITALITY, RETAIL FOOD. ANOTHER 7% OF THOSE, UH, PARTICIPANTS, UH, WERE FORM FORMERLY INCARCERATED AND NEED THE HELP WHILE ANOTHER 3% ARE, UH, VETERANS. SO THIS SLIDE, AS I PREVIOUS MENTIONED, WE HAVE THE 5,700 PARTICIPANTS. UH, THIS SLIDE PROVIDES A BREAKDOWN AS FOR WHERE THOSE PARTICIPANTS ARE IN THE TRAIN FOR JOBS PIPELINE, UH, ONE 1,853 ARE CURRENTLY IN THE EXPLORER, UH, A CAREER EXPLORATION STAGE. UH, THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE PARTNERS TO IDENTIFY WHAT ARE THE SKILL SETS THEY HAVE, WHERE DO THEY NEED AND WHAT ARE THEY GROWING OR, AND WE HAVE, THROUGH OUR DATA SO FAR, WE HAVE DEMONSTRATED THIS, UM, PROCESS TAKES OVER A MONTH TO COMPLETE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. RIGHT. UH, 1800 ARE CURRENTLY IN THEIR TRAINING PROGRAM, UM, THAT THEY, THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH, UM, AT WHICH POINT SOME OF THE TRAINING CAN TAKE AS LITTLE AS A MONTH, WHILE OTHERS WILL TAKE, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY MORE, UH, MORE TIME FOR IT TO COMPLETE. UH, TO DATE, 416 PARTICIPANTS HAVE GRADUATED. THEY'RE, UH, GRADUATED FROM THEIR TRAINING PROGRAM AND ARE EITHER LOOKING FOR AN ENROLL, UH, LOOKING FOR A CAREER, OR THEY'VE BEEN, UM, HIRED INTO THEIR CAREER, BUT LESS THAN 90 DAYS. AND THEN A HUNDRED AND, UH, 86 PARTICIPANTS HAVE BEEN IN THEIR NEW CAREER FOR MORE THAN 90 DAYS. UH, FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THERE HAVE BEEN PARTICIPANTS [01:35:01] WHO HAVE LEFT THE PROGRAM AFTER BEING ENROLLED. UH, THUS FAR, 1400 PARTICIPANTS HAVE LEFT THE PROGRAM DURING THE CAREER EXPIRATION STAGE. UH, THE MAJORITY OF THOSE THAT HAVE LEFT THE CAREER, LEFT THE PROGRAM ARE DUE TO OUR INABILITY OR THE PARTNER'S INABILITY TO MAKE CONTINUAL CONTACT WITH THEM, UH, TO FINISH THAT EXPLORATION PROCESS. UM, REGARDING THOSE WHO HAVE STARTED THEIR TRAINING PROGRAM OR BEGUN, UH, THERE HAVE ONLY BEEN 49 PARTICIPANTS WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT, WHICH BASICALLY PROVIDE US A 97% RETENTION RATE FROM ONCE WE GET ONCE, ONCE THEY START THEIR TRAINING PROGRAM. UM, REGARDING STIPENDS, ABOUT 15 OR ABOUT 1600 INDIVIDUALS HAVE RECEIVED THEIR STIPENDS. THIS IS LOWER THAN WHAT WE INITIALLY ANTICIPATED. UM, IT IS LOWER IN PART AS WE COMMUNICATE WITH OUR PARTNERS. UH, IT IS LOWER IN PART BECAUSE A LOT OF THE PARTICIPANTS ARE ALREADY RECEIVING SOME SERVICES, UM, THROUGH THE, THROUGH OTHER, OTHER MEANS, UM, SUCH AS THE UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS. UM, WE ANTICIPATE THAT OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT, UH, COUPLE OF MONTHS, THAT THAT RATE OF PARTICIPATION WILL INCREASE. UM, OF THE 15, OF THE 1600 WHO HAVE RECEIVED STIPEND, THEY'RE AVERAGING ABOUT, UH, 2000, UH, $2,000, UH, PER, UH, PARTICIPANT. SO THIS SLIDE, UH, REPRESENTS THOSE PARTICIPANT, THOSE PARTICIPANTS WHO HAVE ENTERED INTO THE JOB TRAINING OR INTO THEIR TRAINING PROGRAMS, UH, THAT REPRESENTS THE 2,372 PARTICIPANTS. AND BREAKING DOWN AS FOR WHAT TYPE OF TRAINING, WHETHER THEY BE SHORT-TERM, LONG-TERM, OR THE HIGH SCHOOL EQUIVALENCY OR ON-THE-JOB TRAINING. UM, THE GRAPH OR THE TABLE TO THE RIGHT, UH, REPRESENTS THE TYPE OF TRAINING THAT IS BEING MADE AVAILABLE THAT THESE PARTICIPANTS ARE, ARE ENTERING INTO OR RECEIVING THAT ARE PART OF THE SHORT-TERM AND LONG-TERM TRAINING. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE RECEIVING THE TRAINING IN THE MEDICAL FIELD. UM, HOWEVER, AT EQUAL DISTRIBUTION AMOUNTS, THEY ARE, WE'RE ALSO SEEING PARTICIPANTS GOING INTO BUSINESS, MANUFACTURING, LOGISTICS, UH, AND TRADE. SO WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE WHO HAVE FINISHED THEIR TRAINING, PARTICULARLY THOSE WHO HAVE, UM, HAVE, WHO HAVE BEEN PLACED, UH, THERE HAVE BEEN 186 PARTICIPANTS WHO HAVE BEEN PLACED IN THEIR, THAT HAVE FOUND THEIR EMPLOYMENT AND HAVE BEEN IN THEIR CAREER FOR OVER 90 DAYS. AND SO WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE, THE RATE OF PARTICIPANTS WHO HAVE FOUND THEIR EMPLOYMENT AND ARE IN THEIR EMPLOYMENT COMPARED TO ALL GRADUATES, THAT REPRESENTS A 31%, UM, OF, OF TRAINING GRADUATES WHO ARE EMPLOYED. UH, WE ANTICIPATE THAT THAT RATE WILL CONTINUE TO GROW OVER A PERIOD OF TIME AS THE FLOW OF, AS MORE PEOPLE GRADUATE AND FIND PLACEMENT. UH, WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE WHO HAVE FOUND PLACEMENT, UH, WHAT TYPE OF CAREERS IN THE INDUSTRIES THAT THEY'RE FINDING IT IN, AGAIN, THEY'RE FINDING A LARGE PORTION IN THE MEDICAL, UH, WHEREAS EQUAL IN THE BUSINESS MANUFACTURING, UM, AND, UM, AND TRADES. SO THIS SLIDE IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE A HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY OF THE TRAIN FOR JOBS PROGRAM. AS FOR WHERE WE ARE IN COMPARED TO THE GOALS THAT HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED AT THE BEGINNING, UM, WE, WE CURRENTLY HAVE A GOAL FOR PART, UH, THE PROGRAM PARTICIPATION TO BE ABLE TO, OR AT THE 8,062 PARTICIPANTS. UH, THUS FAR, WE ARE AT A 70% OF THAT GOAL, WHICH MEANS THAT BASED UPON OUR TARGET OF BEING ABLE TO ENROLL PEOPLE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, WE ARE ON TARGET TO BE ABLE TO MEET THAT GOAL. UM, THE HIGH SCHOOL EQUIVALENCY, THE SHORT TERM TRAINING, THE LONG TERM REPRESENTS, UM, THE TYPE OF TRAINING THAT WE ANTICIPATED INDIVIDUALS, UH, PARTICIPATING IN. AND THEN OF THE TOTAL TRAINED PARTICIPANTS, UH, IT WAS OUR OBJECTIVE TO BE ABLE TO END THE PROGRAM WITH LITTLE LESS THAN 6,000 PARTICIPANTS WHO ARE TRAINED AND ARE IN HIGHER PAYING JOBS. UH, THAT RATE OF THOSE WHO ARE THERE RIGHT NOW WHO ARE TRAINED, UH, IT'S, WE'RE AT 40% OF OF OUR TARGET, WHICH TAKE, WHEN WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE EXPECTATION THAT THE PROGRAM, THOSE THAT ARE IN THE TRAINED PROGRAMS, WILL CONTINUE INTO FISCAL YEAR 2022. UH, WE DO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE ON TARGET TO BE ABLE TO REACH THOSE GOALS. UH, THIS SLIDE IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE A, A SUMMARY AS WELL AS KINDA LIKE THE NEXT STEPS. AND WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE FOCUSING ON AS PART OF THIS PROGRAM. UM, WE WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THERE CONTINUES TO BE A NEED FOR THE TRAINING AND PLACEMENT, UH, HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. UM, AS SHARED IN A RECENT W S A REPORT, AND AS SHOWN ON THIS, ON THE GRAPH, NEARLY 75% OF SAN ANTONIO RESIDENTS WHO ARE UNEMPLOYED OF APRIL OF LAST YEAR ARE STILL UNEMPLOYED AS OF MARCH OF THIS YEAR. UM, IN ADDITION, WITH THE RECENT NOTICE OF THE UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS BEING [01:40:01] TIED TO C O V I D, UH, WE'LL BE ENDING IN JUNE, UH, WE ARE EXPECTING TO SEE THAT, UH, THOSE DECISIONS WILL IMPACT, UH, FAMILIES. AND WE ARE OPTIMISTIC AND EXPECTING TO SEE AN INCREASE IN ENROLLMENT AS AS A CONSEQUENCE. UH, SO WHEN WE LOOK FORWARD OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, UH, WE EXPECT TO SEE AN INCREASE IN CAREER PLACEMENT PROGRAM AS INDIVIDUALS MOVE THROUGH THE PIPELINE. UH, OUR PARTNERS HAVE WORKED VERY DILIGENTLY OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST NINE MONTHS TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE TRAINING, UH, TO, TO MAP THEM OUT AND TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHAT TRAINING PROGRAM IS BEST FOR THEM. AND BASED UPON THE TYPE OF TRAINING, UH, THOSE PARTICIPANTS ARE WORKING VERY HARD. AND SO WE ANTICIPATE THAT A LOT OF THAT PIPELINE WILL START TO GROW INTO GRADUATION AND PLACEMENT. AND SO WE'RE GONNA BE FOCUSING A LOT ON THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO BE ABLE TO TRACK AND TO WATCH. UM, WE ARE ALSO ANTICIPATING SEEING AN INCREASE, UM, IN THE, THE TRAINING FOR JOB ENROLLMENT, UH, OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. UH, ONE BECAUSE OF THE UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS, THE CHANGE IN UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS, UM, AS WELL AS, UH, THE COMPLETION OF SOME OF OUR MARKETING, UM, METHODS THAT WE ARE REACHING OUT TO TRY TO, UH, TARGET THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO NEED THE PROGRAM. UH, FINALLY, UH, WE, WE LOOK TO BE ABLE TO, AS A RESULT OF THE RECENT DECISION TO STOP THE UNEMPLOYMENT, WE ARE ALSO ANTICIPATING SEEING A HIGHER NEED FOR THE STIPEND PROGRAM. UM, AND SO WE'LL BE CONTINUALLY MONITORED, MAKING SURE THAT THOSE RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE TO THE PARTICIPANTS THAT NEED THEM, UM, AS WELL AS WE'LL BE PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE GRADUATING THEIR TRAINING PROGRAM TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT, UH, WHAT HAPPENS AS A RESULT OF THE PROGRAM. SO, UH, THAT CONCLUDES THE, THE FORMAL PORTION, BUT I WANT TO END THE PRESENTATION WITH TWO MORE EXAMPLES. UH, WE ARE, WE ARE THRILLED AS WE WORK WITH THE PARTNERS. WE ARE, UM, IMPRESSED BY SEEING THESE RESULTS COME IN AND SEEING THE, THE STORIES. BECAUSE WHILE THIS PRESENTATION IS ABOUT THE STATISTICS, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S ABOUT THE ONE AS WELL, ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL'S NEEDS. AND SO, OVER TO THE LEFT OF THE PRESENTATION OF THE SLIDE, WE HAVE, UH, JIA, UH, SULLIVAN, WHO ENROLLED IN THE TRAIN FOR JOB PROGRAM THROUGH OUR PARTNER FAMILY SERVICES. UH, AFTER WORKING HARD TO COMPLETE HER TRAINING, SHE HAS FOUND A NEW CAREER UTILIZING HER TRAINING AT METHODIST, UH, CARTHAL CARD. AND FINALLY, WE HAVE LAURIE, UH, LUNA, WHO WAS STRUGGLING AT THE BEGINNING OF COVID TO FIND EMPLOYMENT, UM, AND NEEDED A CHANGE. UH, SHE ENROLLED IN THE PRO PROGRAM AND, UM, THROUGH OUR PARTNER RESTORE EDUCATION AND FIRST WORKED TO OBTAIN HER HIGH SCHOOL EQUIVALENCY CERTIFICATE AND IS NOW ENROLLED AS AN ADMIN ASSISTANT STUDENT. AND SO, IN HER OWN WORDS, WHEN SHE TALKS ABOUT THIS PROGRAM SHE USED, SHE, UH, DEFINED THE TRAIN FOR JOBS PROGRAM AS A GODSEND AT A TIME WHEN SHE WAS STRUGGLING THE MOST. AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION AND COUNSEL, UH, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS. WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT THAT YOU HAVE AND THE GUIDANCE AND THE DIRECTION YOU PROVIDE WITH THIS PROGRAM. IT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL. THANK YOU, HEBER. THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE AND I WANNA THANK THE, THE TEAM HERE, BUT ALSO TO MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES THAT WE PUT THIS TOGETHER BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT SOMETHING NEEDED TO HAPPEN, AND THIS HAS BEEN A LIFELINE FOR SO MANY SAN ANTONIANS AND MAYBE, UM, IT'S NOT GOING AT A RATE THAT WE WANTED IT TO GO TO, BUT IT'S CHANGING PEOPLE'S LIVES. NEVERTHELESS. UH, I I HAD TWO QUESTIONS. FIRST, OR ACTUALLY THREE. THE FIRST ONE IS WHEN IT COMES TO UNEMPLOYED, THOSE THAT WERE UNEMPLOYED A YEAR AGO AND STILL UNEMPLOYED NOW, ARE WE LOOKING AT IT AS IF THEY WERE FULL-TIME BEFORE AND NOW PART-TIME, IS THAT STILL CONSIDERED UNEMPLOYED SAN ANTONIANS? SO THE, THE, THE TABLE OR THAT CHART THAT I PROVIDED OF THE BEFORE AND AFTER IS COMING FROM, UH, W S A, UH, UH, REPORT THAT THEY PROVIDE UHHUH, . UM, I BELIEVE, AND I'LL, I'LL NEED TO CON CONFIRM THIS, BUT I BELIEVE THAT IT'S REPRESENTING THOSE THAT WERE DEFINED AS UNEMPLOYED, UM, BEFORE. SO IF, SO, DOES W S A DEFINE THAT AS SOMEONE FULL-TIME TO PART-TIME IS STILL EMPLOYED, BUT THEY'RE NOT EMPLOYED. THEY'RE UNDEREMPLOYED, THEY'RE NOT EMPLOYED AT THE SAME RATE. YEAH. SO THAT THEY WERE LAST TIME. YEAH. SO IT'S IDENTIFIED THOSE WHO WERE, I BELIEVE THE REPORT FOCUSES ON THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE UP RECEIVING UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS. OKAY. AND THEY'RE STILL RECEIVING THAT UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFIT. OH, OKAY. ALRIGHT. AND THEN, UM, CAN YOU DEFINE WHAT TRADES ARE? BECAUSE I SAW THE, THE PROJECT, THE PROGRAM SERVICES, WHERE WAS IT? CAREER PLACEMENT 29 IN TRADES. WHAT ARE THOSE TRADES? YEAH, I CAN GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES [01:45:01] OF, OF TRADES. GIMME ONE SECOND. YEAH, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ELECTRICAL, UH, HVAC WELDING, UM, UH, AUTO SERVICE TECHNICIAN, UM, AIRCRAFT MECHANIC AND DIESEL, UH, MECHANICS. OKAY. AND, UH, FOR THE MEDICAL, THE 56 PLACEMENT IN MEDICAL, DO WE KNOW WHAT THE WAGES ARE? SO I DO NOT HAVE THE BREAKDOWN ON, ON THAT, ON THAT CATEGORY, AND I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COUNCIL MEMBER ROGER GARCIA. THANK YOU, CHURCH. THANK YOU. UM, I, I THINK THIS IS VERY HELPFUL AND SO IT'S HELPING ME UNDERSTAND. AND UM, I KNOW THAT ALEX HAD MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, AS TIME MOVES ALONG AND PEOPLE FINISH, THEN WE'LL SEE THE SUCCESS. AND SO I'M STARTING TO SEE THAT, SO I'M HAPPY ABOUT IT. UM, CAN YOU HELP ME EXPLAIN HOW YOU'RE MEASURING THE 97% RETENTION RATE? ARE YOU INCLUDING CAREER EXPLORATION? NO. UNDERSTAND. YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOOD. SO BASICALLY THE CALCULATION TO GET THAT IS WE'VE IDENTIFIED ALL THOSE WHO HAVE STARTED THEIR EDUCATION PROGRAM. SO THAT DOES EXCLUDE THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE IN THE EXPLORATORY PROCESS. OKAY. AND SO THE TOTAL OF THOSE THAT STARTED EDUCATION AND HOW MANY OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS HAVE DROPPED OUT? OKAY. AND THE CLOSED CASES EXPLORATION 1,453, THAT MEANS, OH, SORRY, THERE YOU GO. UH, IN THE, IN THE CLOSEST CASE OR CASES CLOSED EXPLORATION 1,453, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THEY COMPLETED IT OR THERE WAS 1400 WHO JUST DROPPED OUT OF CAREER EXPLORATION? IT MEANS THAT THOSE ARE THE INDIVIDUALS WHO DURING THE CAREER EXPLORATION THAT THEY DROPPED OUT OF THE PROGRAM. UM, THE MAJORITY OF THOSE THAT DROPPED OUT WAS THE PARTNERS WERE UNABLE TO GET AHOLD OF THEM. THEY STOPPED COMMUNICATING WITH THEIR CASE MANAGER. UH, THAT'S WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE COMING FROM. NOW KEEP IN MIND THAT, UH, EXPLORATION PROCESS IS KINDA LIKE AN EARLY STAGE. WE DO PROVIDE AN INITIAL INTAKE WHERE WE GATHER SOME BASIC INFORMATION, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT'S HAPPENING DURING THAT STAGE OF WHERE, UH, THE PARTICIPANT REALLY UNDERSTANDS WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO BE ABLE TO BE SUCCESSFUL. AND SO WE ARE SEEING, UM, PARTICIPANTS WHO ARE DROPPING FROM THAT, UH, FROM THAT SECTION, FROM THAT PERIOD, WHICH, UH, AS WE WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS, IS, UH, IS CONSISTENT WITH THEIR, THEIR PAST, PAST EXPERIENCE. THEY ARE NOT INCLUDED THEN IN THE 1,853 CAREER EXPLORATION? THAT IS CORRECT. THAT IS SEPARATE. OKAY. SO THAT, THAT TABLE, THAT IS ON SLIDE SIX, YEAH, THAT TABLE THAT IS ON SLIDE. IF YOU ADD UP EACH OF THOSE FIGURES, THAT WILL, THAT'LL TOTAL THE 5,700 NUMBER. GOT IT. UM, ON THE CAREER PLACEMENT, 416 WERE PLACED, CAN YOU LIKE, JUST NAME SOME COMPANIES WHERE THEY WERE PLACED? SO THE CAREER PLACEMENT MEANS THAT, THAT THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING PLACED. OH, GOT IT. SO THE, UH, SO THE CAREER PLACEMENT MEANS THAT WE HAVE 416 PARTICIPANTS WHO HAVE GRADUATED FROM THEIR PROGRAM AND EITHER THEY ARE LOOKING TO BE PLACED OR THEY HAVE BEEN INITIALLY PLACED, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN 90 DAYS YET. GOT IT. THE 186, CAN YOU TELL ME, CAN YOU GIMME SOME OF THE EMPLOYERS? YEP. GIMME ONE SECOND. SO THE, THE TOP 10 OR THE, THE HIGHEST, WE HAVE 20. WHO'S FROM THE METHODIST HOSPITAL? WE HAVE, UH, JR. RAYMOND DEMOLITIONS, UH, TOYOTA, TOYOTA UNIVERSITY HEALTH SYSTEM, STEVENS AND SON, CONDUIT, UH, BAPTIST HEALTH, INSUR HEALTH SYSTEM, UH, PACESETTERS PERSONAL SERVICES, AT AND T CENTER AND GOODWILL. OKAY. UM, CAN YOU ALSO TELL ME IF ANY OF THESE WERE ALREADY IN THE PROCESS AND GOT CONVERTED? SO LET'S SAY THAT THERE WERE, THEY WERE ALREADY A STUDENT AT, AT QUEST OR AT RESTORE. ARE WE COUNTING THOSE PEOPLE THAT THEN KIND OF GOT TRANSFERRED OVER TO THE TRAIN FOR JOBS PROGRAM? YES, THEY MET THE CRITERIA FOR TRAIN FOR JOBS. THEY, SOME OF THEM DID TRANSITION INTO THIS PROGRAM SO THAT THEY COULD RECEIVE THE CASE MANAGEMENT AND INSPECT. OKAY. SO IF THEY, DO WE HAVE AN ACCURATE NUMBER THEN OF, UM, NEW PEOPLE THAT WEREN'T ALREADY ENROLLED IN ONE OF THOSE PROGRAMS? I DO NOT, BUT I CAN TAKE A LOOK TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT. OKAY, WONDERFUL. THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. THE 49 THAT DROPPED, WE HAVE CLOSED CASES DURING TRAINING. DO WE KNOW, DO WE KNOW WHY? DID THEY SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE TRAINING? IS THERE ANYTHING WE'VE LEARNED? GIMME ONE SECOND. SO I DO NOT HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN BY THE, BY WHEN THEY CLOSED. UM, BUT AS THE MAJORITY OF 'EM IS DUE TO UN UNABLE TO CONTACT, WE DO HAVE SOME WHO, UM, STARTED THE PROGRAM BUT JUST WON'T DECIDED THAT THEY, IT DOESN'T WORK FOR THEM. IT'S NOT WORKING FOR THEM. [01:50:01] UM, BUT I'LL NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AND BREAK THAT DOWN TO THE, JUST THE 45 OR THE 40. SO THE REASON THAT I WAS ASKING THAT, SO I KNOW THAT YOU SAID THAT THE PARTNERS TRY TO CONTACT THEM MULTIPLE WAYS OR NO, ACTUALLY I'M MIXING MY PRESENTATIONS. THAT WAS LIFTFUND. UM, SO DID WE TRY SENDING OUT BY, UH, EMAIL? DID WE TRY BY, BY MAIL, SNAIL MAIL AND PHONE? EVERYTHING? YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. SO FOR THOSE WHO WE LOST CONTACT WITH THEM, UM, THEY, THE PARTNERS ARE COMMUNICATING WITH THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS, ON THROUGH ALL THOSE DIFFERENT METHODS THROUGH PHONE, THROUGH EMAIL, UH, THROUGH, UM, WELL, PHONE AND EMAIL ARE THE PRIMARY CONTACTS. UM, THERE ARE A LARGE PORTION OF THOSE, AS I MENTIONED, THAT IT TAKES ABOUT 90 DAYS, OR SORRY, 30 DAYS FOR A PARTICIPANT ON AVERAGE TO COMPLETE THAT FIRST PHASE. WE ARE SEEING THAT THERE ARE PARTICIPANTS WHO ARE STAYING IN THAT EXPLORATORY PHASE LONGER BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THAT THEY GO MISSING. AND THEN RIGHT BEFORE THE PARTNER, UH, DECIDES TO CLOSE OUT THE CASE, THEY DO SOME ADDITIONAL EFFORTS TO TRY TO REACH OUT TO THEM AND THEY'RE ABLE TO MAKE CONTACT. AND SO THAT BASICALLY STARTS THAT CLOCK ALL OVER AGAIN. UM, AND SO, UH, THERE ARE MULTIPLE EFFORTS BEING MADE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE CONTACT. SO WE DON'T, DO WE HAVE, UM, DO WE ASK THEM FOR A SECONDARY CONTACT? SO I'M, I'M AFRAID THAT IF, I DON'T KNOW, A FEW OF THESE 49 DIDN'T HAVE A JOB. MAYBE THEY COULDN'T PAY FOR THEIR RENT ANYMORE AND MAYBE COULDN'T PAY FOR THEIR PHONE. UM, I, I'M JUST GOING LIKE EXTREME CASE. DO WE HAVE LIKE A SECONDARY CONTACT OR WE CAN REACH OUT TO THEM THROUGH, SO, SO AS PART OF THE INTAKE PROCESS, WE DO, UH, WE DO ASK FOR MULTIPLE, UH, CONTACT SOURCES. OKAY. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, THE ONLY OTHER THING I WAS GONNA ADD IS THAT I BELIEVE PROJECT QUEST ALSO DOES HOME VISITS. OKAY. IF WE LOSE TRACK OF SOMEBODY, THEY TRY TO GET OUT, SO. GOT IT. AND THEN, UM, THE, THE STIPEND, SO THE, SO IT'S JUST OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, HOWEVER THEIR TRAINING PROGRAM IS, IT'S ON AVERAGE ABOUT $2,000 PER THAT WE'VE SPENT? CORRECT. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THAT. AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION IS, THERE WAS ONLY 15 ON THE JOB, UM, THAT, THAT, THAT WE HAD ON HERE, THAT WE REPORTED ON HERE, UH, ACTUALS. THE GOAL WAS 110. DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHY, LIKE, WHY THAT'S SO LOW AND LET ME TELL YOU WHY. UM, WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON THE READY TO WORK SA, UM, A LOT OF THE FOLKS THAT WERE ON THESE PHONE CALLS, THEY WERE MAJOR EMPLOYERS, THEY WERE PUSHING FOR MORE CONCENTRATION OF ON THE JOB TRAINING. AND I WANNA BE ABLE TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE INCREASE, OR THIS IS WHY IT'S NOT WORKING. SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND. SO, SO PART OF THE REASON IS, UM, AGAIN, THE LEVEL OF TRAINING, A LOT OF THE PARTICIPANTS NEED TO RECEIVE SOME ADDITIONAL TRAINING BEFORE THEY CAN EVEN QUALIFY FOR THE, THE, ON THE, ON THE JOB. UM, AND SO THAT WOULD SAY THAT THAT WAS PROBABLY THE MAJORITY OF, OF, OF THE REASON. UH, WE DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF PARTNERS WHO ARE READY TO BE, OR A LOT OF BUSINESSES WHO ARE READY TO ASSIST AND TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT. UM, IT'S JUST, WE'RE JUST, IT'S JUST NOT CONNECTING WITH THAT, WITH THE, UM, PARTICIPANTS. OKAY. THANK YOU HEBERT. THANK YOU CHAIR. THAT'S, THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ONE OTHER QUESTION I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT FROM, UH, OUR CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD IS ABOUT, UH, THESE EXPLORATION OR THE CLOSED CASES TRAINING, OR MAYBE EVEN THE CAREER PLACEMENT IN PENDING. UM, WHAT ABOUT DRUG TESTING AND, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE DO, THE PARTICIPANTS HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE, UM, ABLE TO, UH, PASS WHATEVER DRUG TEST SO THEY CAN GO INTO WHATEVER PLACEMENT THEY HAVE TO GO TO. SO WE DO NOT HAVE A DRUG TESTING AS PART OF THE CRITERIA AS FOR ENTRY INTO THE TRAIN FOR, UH, TRANSFER, UH, JOBS PROGRAM UHHUH. HOWEVER, WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S EMPLOYERS WHO WILL EVENTUALLY, UH, PROVIDING THAT. AND SO THAT'S PART OF THAT WRAPAROUND, WRAPAROUND SERVICES THAT WHEN THE CASE MANAGERS ARE ASSISTING THAT THEY NEED TO BE, HAVE, HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHAT ARE THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED TO BE SUCCESSFUL. OKAY. AND SO PART OF THAT, THEY'RE ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, BRIEFED AND, AND GIVEN ALL THE INFORMATION TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, ET CETERA, WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THIS. THAT THAT'S PART OF WHAT THEY'RE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND WITH THAT CERTAIN CAREERS IN CERTAIN PROFESSIONS MIGHT REQUIRE SOME OF THESE THINGS. BACKGROUND CHECKS, CREDIT CHECKS, SOMETIMES DRUG TESTING. UM, I, I JUST REMEMBERED THAT ACTUALLY ON THE, FOR THE, ON THE JOBB TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES. MM-HMM. AT THAT POINT, THE EMPLOYERS DO SOMETIMES WANNA ALREADY DO THOSE TYPES OF SCREENING. SO THAT HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT, HAS ALSO CONTRIBUTED TO THE, TO THE LOWER PARTICIPATION RATES THAT WE'RE SEEING FOR ON THE JOBB TRAINING. OKAY. WHEN THE, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO CAREER EXPLORATION, WE'VE GOT TIME TO HELP THE PARTICIPANT THROUGH THOSE CHALLENGES, IF THAT, IF THEY'RE FACING THOSE. [01:55:01] RIGHT. OKAY. WELL, WONDERFUL. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, HEBER. YOU WELCOME. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR THE BRIEFING. THIS HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL AND IT'LL BE VERY HELPFUL FOR, UM, ALL OF YOU AS YOU CONTINUE. AND I THINK THAT IS OUR, THAT'S OUR LAST ITEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELL, THIS IS MY LAST MEETING THIS YEAR. THANK Y'ALL. THIS HAS BEEN WONDERFUL. I KNOW THIS IS GONNA BE AN INCREDIBLE JOURNEY FORWARD WITH Y'ALL AND, UM, EVERYTHING THAT MOVES FORWARD. SO, CONGRATULATIONS. YOU'RE IN GOOD HAND, SAN ANTONIO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE'RE ADJOURNED. . * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.