Jun 15, 2021 Zoning Commission on 2021-06-15 1:00 PM

COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL HERE.

MR. CHAIR BUSANTE PRESENT.

A QUORUM IS PRESENT.

WOULD PLEASE REVIEW THE CURRENT LIST OF CONSENT INDIVIDUAL AND OR ANY POSTPONED OR WITHDRAWN ITEMS. THANK YOU.

PRIOR TO STARTING WITH OUR ITEMS, I WOULD LIKE OUR STAFF TO REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT STAFF, IF YOU WOULD, TO INCORPORATE PUBLIC COMMENT.

THERE ARE FOUR OPPORTUNITIES.

THESE INCLUDE EMAIL OR MAIL OF COMMENTS, DROPPING OFF COMMENTS, LEAVING VOICEMAIL, OR ASKING TO BE CALLED DURING THE MEETING.

STATEMENTS OR COMMENTS RECEIVED ARE PART OF THE OFFICIAL WRITTEN RECORD FOR ITEMS ON INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT, STAFF WILL PLAY ANY MESSAGES RECEIVED BY VOICEMAIL.

LASTLY, FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO RECEIVE A CALLBACK, WE WILL CALL THEM TO STATE THEIR TWO MINUTE COMMENTS.

SPANISH INTERPRETERS ARE ON STANDBY AS NEEDED.

THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL WITH A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT, ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSIONER QUESTION TO PROTECT THE HEALTH AND PUBLIC AND LIMIT THE POTENTIAL SPREAD OF C 19.

THE ZONING COMMISSION IS HOLDING MEETINGS VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE.

THESE MEETING STANDARDS ARE BASED UPON THE VARIOUS SUSPENDED PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT ISSUED BY THE TEXAS GOVERNOR IN RESPONSE TO THE COVID 19 CRISIS AND ARE IN PLACE UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN WATCH AND LISTEN TO THIS MEETING BY VISITING WWW.SANANTONIO.GOV/DSD OR BY CALLING IN FOR AUDIO ONLY AT 2 1 0 2 0 6 54 83.

MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU.

UH, STAFF, IF YOU

[Items 8 - 12, 15, 16, 19, & 21]

ITEM NUMBER 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 15, 16, 19, AND 21.

THE ITEMS THAT ARE BEING POSTPONED TODAY ARE ITEMS NUMBER ONE AND TWO.

ITEM NUMBER ONE IS LOCATED AT AIRPORT BOULEVARD AND ITEM NUMBER TWO IS LOCATED IN THE 4,000 BLOCK OF DAYS OF ALL ROAD.

THESE ITEMS ARE POSTPONED TODAY, WHICH MEANS THEY WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED AT ALL AND NEW NOTICE, UH, WILL BE SENT WHEN THEY ARE READY TO PROCEED FORWARD.

FOR COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS LISTED FOR CONSENT.

FOR OUR COMBINED HEARING TWO, WHICH IS OUR CONTINUANCE REQUEST, WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR, NUMBER FIVE SIX WITH A RECUSAL FROM COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, SEVEN 13 AND 14 AND 17.

EXCUSE ME.

AND THEN FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, WE HAVE ITEM THREE, 18 AND 20.

WOULD LIKE TO ADD, UH, TO THE CONSENT OR INDIVIDUAL ITEMS? SEEING NONE, STAFF, IF YOU WOULD.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT ANY COMMISSIONER

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OH, COMMISSIONER WHITE? NO.

SORRY.

UH, STAFF IF YOU WOULD PLEASE READ THE CONSENT ITEMS INTO THE RECORD.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I ONE A H O D TO IDV TWO A H O D WITH USES PERMITTED FOR 16 DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 2 11 2 15, 2 23, 2 27 AND 2 31 YOAKUM ALLEY, FOUR 16 DEVAL STREET FOUR 17 AND FOUR 19 MILAM AND 2 0 6 AND TWO 12 DALTON ALLEY.

THERE WERE 22 NOTICES MAILED.

NONE WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

ITEM NUMBER NINE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FOUR TO R FOUR CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS.

LOCATED AT 36 37 COMMERCIAL AVENUE.

THERE WERE 27 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM GOVERNMENT HILL ALLIANCE.

ITEM NUMBER 10 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE TO I D D ONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN C ONE.

LOCATED AT 3 28 MARTINEZ STREET.

16.

NOTICES MAILED, ONE.

RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND LACA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.

ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I ONE TO R THREE.

LOCATED AT 4 0 6 MOTON ALLEY.

33 NOTICES MAILED, NONE.

RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

ITEM NUMBER 12 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE TO R FOUR.

LOCATED AT 3 29 LANE STREET.

32 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM NUITY HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

ITEM NUMBER 15 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I TWO TO C TWO I D Z WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.

LOCATED AT ONE 19 AND 1 35 WEST LOS CHAPPELLE.

THERE WERE 17 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION.

COLLINS GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD IS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN NON OPPOSITION.

ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I ONE UC.

SIX A H O D WITH USES PERMITTED IN C ONE AND FOR A BAR MICROBREWERY TO IDC ONE UC.

SIX A H O D WITH USES PERMITTED IN C ONE FOR A BAR MICROBREWERY AND FOR A MOBILE FOOD COURT LOCATED AT FIVE 15 AND 5 23 SAN PEDRO AVENUE.

THERE WERE 22 NOTICES MAILED.

ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM FIVE POINTS.

NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ITEM NUMBER 19 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I ONE TO L WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.

LOCATED AT 46 55 WALHAM ROAD, THERE WERE 15 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

AND ITEM NUMBER 21 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO AND C TWO SS WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE OF NEW AND USED CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL TO R FOUR AND R FIVE.

GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 900 BLOCK OF WEST ROAD.

THERE WERE 35 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION.

AND THERE IS NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

1 3 0 5 NORTH OLIVE 7 8 2 0 2.

WE DO HAVE ONE VOICEMAIL TO PLAY AS PART OF THE CONSENT ITEM AND WE'LL DO THAT NOW.

THANK YOU STAFF.

WELL I SAW COMMISSIONER SIPES MOVE, SO AT LEAST I KNOW THE THEME'S.

STILL WORKING.

STAFF DO WE HAVE THAT VOICEMAIL? SHANE? MY NAME IS SHANE WEIN.

IN REFERENCE TO

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ZONING CASE 0 8 4, I'D LIKE TO BE PUT ON THE RECORD ON THE ZONING CASE.

THERE'S TWO TREES THAT HOPEFULLY WILL BE INCORPORATED IN THE DEVELOPMENT BY AIA ENGINEERING.

THE CONTACT MISS MIA SHOULD PUT ON RECORD WHAT THEY PLAN TO DO ABOUT THESE TWO TREES.

THE PECAN TREE IS THE LARGEST FOR THREE BLOCKS, PROBABLY OVER 200 YEARS OLD.

THIS TREE IS NOT ONLY BEAUTIFUL, IT CAN BE SEEN FROM I 35.

THE TREE IS NEEDED DOWNTOWN TO HELP LOWER C O TWO LEVELS.

THE TREE ALSO HELPS BLOCK THE TRAIN HORN SOUND.

UH, FROM AROUND THE NEIGHBORING, UH, DIGNA WITTY NEIGHBORHOOD, I'VE REACHED OUT TO ORLANDO RAMIREZ, UH, THE NEW COUNCILMAN, JAYLEN MCKEE RODRIGUEZ AND ALSO THE ALAMO SIERRA CLUB.

RICHARD ALICE AS WELL AS SPOKEN TO THE DEVELOPER MIA OF MY CONCERN FOR THE TWO TREES.

UH, HOPEFULLY MIA WILL INCORPORATE THE TWO TREES INTO THE DESIGN.

I ALSO PLAN TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL AND MY CONCERNS OVER POSSIBILITY OF DESTROYING THE TWO LARGEST TREES ON THIS TRACK.

IT WOULD BE NICE, UH, TO HAVE THE DEVELOPER ON RECORD THE PLAN THEY HAVE FOR THE TWO HERITAGE TREES.

HOPEFULLY THE DEVELOPER IN THE CITY WILL DO THE RIGHT THING AND PREVENT DESTRUCTION.

UH, THANK YOU AGAIN.

I'M THE OWNER OF MY HOUSE AND I HAVE LOOKED AT THE TWO TREES FROM 2005.

UH, MY TELEPHONE NUMBER IS (210) 218-1640.

UH, HOPE THIS IS A GOOD CLEAR MESSAGE AND UH, LOOK FORWARD TO Y'ALL CALLING ME IN, UH, TOMORROW.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

UH, IS THERE A MOTION MR. CHAIR? UH, THIS IS COMMISSIONER THAS.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ITEMS NUMBER 8 9 10 11 12 15, 16, 19, AND 21.

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER SBS HAS MADE A REC, UH, MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE ITEMS LISTED.

SECOND JONES.

COMMISSIONER JONES.

THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PRO TEM GREATHOUSE? YES.

CHAIR BUSANTE.

AYE.

MOTION PASSES.

10 TO ZERO, MR. CHAIRMAN.

[Items 4, 5, 7, 13, 17]

UM, IF WE COULD, IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO COMBINED HEARING NUMBER TWO AND, UM, IF WE COULD HAVE THE, UH, CONTINUANCES TO SEVEN 20 TOGETHER, THAT WOULD BE PREFERABLE, I THINK.

THEN WE WILL DO, UH, ITEM NUMBER SIX, UH, WHICH WILL REQUIRES COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE TO RECUSE AND THEN ANY THE OTHER, UH, JULY 6TH CONTINUANCE PLEASE.

OR SINCE I JUST SPRUNG THIS ON YOU INDIVIDUALLY IS FINE TOO.

NO, NO, NO, THAT'S FINE.

I'M JUST GOING TO CLARIFY THAT THE FOLLOWING ITEMS, ITEM FOUR, ITEM FIVE, ITEM SEVEN AND ITEM 17 ARE THE ONES FOR THE JULY 20TH HEARING.

DOES THAT SOUND CORRECT? IT SOUNDS CORRECT, BUT WITH ONE EXCEPTION.

ITEM 13, IS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE SEVEN, SIX, OR NOT 14, SORRY.

1346.

18 BELS.

AND ON THE ITEM I HAVE BEFORE ME, IT SAYS SEVEN 20 AS WELL.

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YES SIR.

THAT LOOKS CORRECT.

SO THE LIST THAT YOU GAVE ME PLUS ITEM 13 WOULD BE THE SEVEN 20 CASES.

IF WE COULD HAVE THOSE NOW.

YES.

AND I DO WANT TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT ANY OF THESE ITEMS WHERE A VOICEMAIL MAY HAVE BEEN LEFT FOR THESE ITEMS, THOSE ARE SAVED AND WILL BE PLAYED WHEN THE ITEM IS HEARD.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS A REQUEST FOR REZONING FROM R SIX TO PUD R FOUR.

GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 11,000 BLOCK OF BANDERA ROAD THAT 62 NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR.

13 OPPOSED ONE OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA IN FAVOR.

2 27.

OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FOOT BUFFER OPPOSED AND BRA OAKS IS OPPOSED.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO TO C TWO I D D WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.

GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 2000 BLOCK OF BROADWAY STREET.

14.

NOTICES MAILED ONE.

RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION.

WESTFORD ALLIANCE IS OPPOSED.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FOUR A H O D TO C TWO C D I D D A H O D WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A BAR TAVERN LOCATED AT 9 51 COLLIBRA ROAD.

THERE WERE 20 NOTICES MAILED TO, RECEIVED IN FAVOR.

NONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY IS OPPOSED.

ITEM 13 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM RMM FOUR AND R FIVE AND RMM FOUR TO M H P.

NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

LOCATED AT 46 18 BEL STREET.

THERE WERE 28 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR TO AN OPPOSITION.

THERE IS ONE INDIVIDUAL OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA.

OPPOSED.

AND THEN ITEM ONE 18, ACTUALLY THAT'S THE ZONING CASE NUMBER.

ITEM 17 ENDING IN ONE 18.

CD IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE NA TO C ONE CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOBILE FOOD COURT.

LOCATED AT 2202 BROADWAY.

12 NOTICES MAILED, NONE.

RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION.

WESTFORD ALLIANCE IS IN SUPPORT ALL OF THESE ITEMS. ITEM FOUR, ITEM FIVE, ITEM SEVEN, 13, AND 17 ARE REQUESTING CONTINUANCES TO JULY THE 20TH.

MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, IS THERE A MOTION REGARDING THE LISTED ITEMS? YES, MR. CHAIR, THIS IS COMMISSIONER STIPES.

I MAKE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCES TO THE JULY 20TH MEETING FOR THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ITEMS NUMBER FOUR, NUMBER FIVE, NUMBER SEVEN, NUMBER 13.

AND NUMBER 17.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND MCDANIEL.

I HEARD, UH, A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.

THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR CONTINUANCES OF THE LISTED ITEMS TO JULY 20TH.

UH, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER KATH? YES.

PROTON GREATHOUSE? YES.

IF WE CAN MOVE, MOVE NOW TO, PARDON

[6. 21-4269 ZONING CASE Z-2021-10700032 (Council District 8): A request for a change in zoning from "C-3 UC-1 MLOD-1 MLR-2" General Commercial IH-10/FM 1604 Urban Corridor Camp Bullis Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 District and "C-3 MLOD-1 MLR-2" General Commercial Camp Bullis Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 District and “C-3R UC-1 MLOD-1 MLR-2" General Commercial Restrictive Alcoholic Sales IH-10/FM 1604 Urban Corridor Camp Bullis Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 District and “C-3R MLOD-1 MLR-2" General Commercial Restrictive Alcoholic Sales Camp Bullis Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 District to "MF-25 UC-1 MLOD-1 MLR-2" Low Density Multi-Family IH-10/FM 1604 Urban Corridor Camp Bullis Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 and "MF-25 MLOD-1 MLR-2" Low Density Multi-Family Camp Bullis Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 District on 17.767 acres out of NCB 14857, generally located in the 12500 Block of West Interstate 10. Staff recommends Approval. (Justin Malone, Planner, (210) 207-0157, Justin.Malone@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department) ]

ME.

IF WE CAN MOVE NOW TO ITEM SIX.

AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS RECUSED.

AND I WILL NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT THE TIME IS 1120.

AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS TURNED OFF PER CAMERA AND IS RECUSED FROM THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU, STAFF.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE AND C THREE R TO MF 25.

ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME, GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 12 500 BLOCK

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OF WEST INTERSTATE.

10 64 NOTICES MAILED, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED, THREE OPPOSED OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA.

AND THERE IS NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

THIS ITEM IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO JULY THE SIXTH.

AND THIS IS THE DISTRICT EIGHT CASE COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES.

I MOVE FOR A CONTINUANCE UNTIL JULY 6TH FOR ITEM NUMBER SIX.

COMMISSIONER ROME.

GENERAL SECOND.

COMMISSIONER SIPES.

I, I GOT COMMISSIONER JONES OVER COMMISSIONER SIPES.

SO WE'RE GONNA GO THAT WAY.

UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JONES.

THE MOTION IS FOR CONTINUANCE TO JULY 6TH.

COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS RECUSED.

PRO TEM GREATHOUSE.

RECUSED.

THAT'S RIGHT.

UM, VICE CHAIR? YES.

AND LASTLY, CHAIR BUSANTE.

UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, IF YOU WOULD RETURN TO THE MEETING AND I SEE YOU SO WONDERFUL.

COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS RETURNED TO THE MEETING AT 1122.

IF WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM.

STAFF.

ITEM NUMBER

[14. 21-4242 ZONING CASE Z-2021-10700115 CD (Council District 5): A request for a change in zoning from "C-3NA H RIO-4 MC-1 AHOD" General Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales Mission Historic River Improvement Overlay Roosevelt Metropolitan Corridor Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-2NA CD H RIO-4 MC-1 AHOD" Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales Mission Historic River Improvement Overlay Roosevelt Metropolitan Corridor Airport Hazard Overlay District with a Conditional Use for Construction Trades Contractors with Welding and Carpentry on Lots 1, 2, 3, 4 and 10, Block 1, NCB 3120, located at 541 Roosevelt Avenue. Staff recommends Denial. (Associated Plan Amendment PA-2021-11600035)(Michael Pepe, Senior Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department) ]

14 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE AND A TO TWO N A C D WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A CONSTRUCTION TRADES CONTRACTOR WITH WELDING AND CARPENTRY.

LOCATED AT 5 41 ROOSEVELT AVENUE.

THERE WERE 33 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM ROOSEVELT PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

THIS ITEM IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO JULY THE SIXTH.

AND THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE, SO I MOVE FOR A CONTINUANCE TO JULY 6TH FOR ITEM NUMBER 14.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND MCG AGAIN.

UH, COMMISSIONER MCGEE A SECOND, UH, ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER, WE HI.

PRO TEM GREATHOUSE? YES.

THE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS PLEASE.

I REALIZED I GAVE UP THAT I AM NOT IN THE SAME TIME ZONE.

SO ALL OF THE TIMES REGARDING COMMISSIONER GREAT HOUSE'S, UH, ABSENCE SHOULD BE TWO HOURS AHEAD OF WHAT I SAID.

UM, SO IF WE COULD, IF WE COULD, UH, MOVE ON TO

[3. 21-4485 (Continued from 05/18/2021) ZONING CASE Z-2021-10700065 CD (Council District 3): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-2 CD MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD" Commercial Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District with a Conditional Use for Motor Vehicle Sales on Lot 9, Lot 10, Lot 11, and Lot 12, Block 170, NCB 9453, located at 3320 Commercial Avenue. Staff recommends Approval. (Michael Pepe, Senior Planner, (210) 207-8208, michael.pepe@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department) (Part 1 of 2)]

ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO C TWO CD.

ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES LOCATED AT 33 20 COMMERCIAL AVENUE.

THERE WERE 25 NOTICES MAILED.

ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION.

AND THERE ARE NO NEIGHBORHOODS ASSOCIATIONS.

STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LAND IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE.

THIS ENABLES DEVELOPMENT OF A SITE ON A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR AND LIMITS MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES TO A SITE PLAN.

THE PROPERTY IS FURTHER REMOVED FROM NEARBY RESIDENTIAL BY PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

EASEMENT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THIS IS A CASE THAT HAD BEEN CONTINUED, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, COMMISSIONER MCGEE AND I BELIEVE THIS IS FOR INDIVIDUAL FOR, UM, CONSIDERATION AND OR APPROVAL OF CONDITIONS.

AND I APOLOGIZE, WHAT DISTRICT IS THIS? THREE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER MCGEE.

UM, IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT?

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SO IF THE APPLICANT IS NOT PRESENT, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE GO FORWARD AND, UH, WE CAN GO FROM THERE.

IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, HOWEVER, WE ARE HAVING SOME TROUBLE CONNECTING WITH THE APPLICANT.

SO WE, IF YOU CAN BEAR WITH US FOR A MOMENT, WE'LL TRY TO GET THEM ON THE LINE OF COURSE.

AND, AND IF NOT, I THINK WE PROCEED.

IN ANY EVENT, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

OUR RECOMMENDATION IS GOING TO BE TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO ITEM TO TABLE THIS ITEM FOR THE, FOR A MOMENT AND GO ON TO ITEM 18.

THEN LET'S GO AHEAD AND COMMISSIONER MCGEE.

I APOLOGIZE, BUT WE'LL COME BACK TO THIS ITEM.

UH, WHEN WE CAN GET THE APPLICANT, IF WE CAN MOVE ON ITEM 18, I'D APPRECIATE.

WE'D LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE, UM, TWO LIVE CALLERS THAT WANTED TO SPEAK ON ITEM ONE 14.

COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE,

[13. 21-4241 ZONING CASE Z-2021-10700114 (Council District 2): A request for a change in zoning from "RM-4 MLOD-3 MLR-2 AHOD" Residential Mixed Martindale Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District and "R-5 MLOD-3 MLR-2 AHOD" Residential Single Family Martindale Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District and "RM-4 AHOD" Residential Mixed Airport Hazard Overlay District and "R-5 AHOD" Residential Single Family Airport Hazard Overlay District to "MHP MLOD-3 MLR-2 AHOD" Manufactured Home Park Martindale Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District and "MHP AHOD" Manufactured Home Park Airport Hazard Overlay District on 2.9479 acres out of 12180, located at 4618 Webbles Street. Staff recommends Approval. (Michael Pepe, Senior Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department) (Part 2 of 2)]

THEY WERE LIVE CALLERS.

UM, AND SO WE'D LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PATCH THEM IN ON THOSE ITEMS. ALTHOUGH, UM, THE ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN ON THEM FOR CONTINUANCE TO THAT ONE WAS FOR THE 20TH, JULY 20TH.

SO IF YOU COULD BEAR WITH US FOR A MOMENT, THEY WILL BE ON THE LINE.

WELL, I'LL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER ONE 14.

I'M SORRY, UH, ZONING CASE NUMBER ONE 14, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER 13.

YES, SIR, YOU'RE ON LIVE WITH THE ZONING COMMISSION FOR CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

PLEASE PROVIDE YOUR COMMENTS FOR WEIL ROAD REZONING, WHICH IS ZONING CASE ENDING IN 1 1 4.

BECAUSE, BECAUSE WE'LL NEED SIDEWALKS.

IT, UH, I'M VERY MUCH AGAINST IT, MA'AM.

VERY MA'AM.

YOU, I'M VERY MUCH AGAINST IT.

THERE.

THERE'LL BE TOO MUCH TRAFFIC.

THAT LITTLE ROAD, THE ONLY ROAD THAT, THAT GOES IN AND OUT OF THERE IS VERY NARROW.

AND THE SCHOOL KIDS GO THROUGH THERE AND THE, AND THERE'S NOT, THE SCHOOL IS NOT, UM, UH, BIG ENOUGH TO, TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ALL THOSE EXTRA KIDS PLUS THE WILL, UH, OUR HOUSE IS, UH, WILL, UM, OUR PROPERTY VALUE WILL BE GOING DOWN OUR TAXI STOP

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THEY'RE ALL BROKEN AND YOU KNOW, OUR HOUSES ARE GOING TO BE UNDERWATER.

THEY'RE GOING TO FLOW.

IT'S FLOOD, UH, A CITY.

WE ALREADY HAVE WATER IN OUR GARAGES EVER SINCE THEY BUILD UP THE ARMS. WE DIDN'T FIGHT ENOUGH TO KEEP THEM FROM, FROM BRINGING THEM IN.

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD USED TO BE A FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ALL OUR FAMILIES.

THE KIDS USED TO LEAVE THEIR BIKES, OUR LAWNMOWERS, EVERYTHING OUTSIDE, AND THEN THEY MOVED.

NOW WE ARE GOING TO HAVE 32 FAMILIES IN THAT SMALL PLACE.

WHERE DO YOU THINK THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE IN OUR HOUSES? SO I'M VERY MUCH AGAINST IT, MA'AM.

CAN THANK YOU MA'AM.

YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

MY NAME, MY NAME IS LUCY JIM MALDONADO.

AND, AND I, AND I'VE BEEN, AND WE MOVED THERE IN 1964.

SO WE KNOW ALL ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SO THANK YOU MS. MALDONADO.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

WHAT, HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

LEMME JUST SEE IF THERE ARE ANY, UH, COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS FOR YOU WHILE WE HAVE YOU ON THE LINE.

OH, OKAY.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS? UH, SEEING NONE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. MALDONADO.

UH, I HOPE YOU HAVE A GOOD DAY.

IS THERE, UH, WILL WE EVER GET TO TALK TO WHOEVER WANTS TO BILL THOSE, UH, THOSE, UH, THAT, UH, THAT, UH, TRAILER PARK OR WHATEVER MS. MALDONADO, WE WILL, UH, HAVE, WE WILL PASS ALONG YOUR NAME TO, UH, THE APPLICANT AND, AND THEY, THEY HOPEFULLY WILL CONTACT YOU, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

THIS ITEM WILL BE REHEARD ON JULY 20TH.

I BELIEVE THERE'S ONE MORE CALLER, SIR.

THIS, UH, THE OTHER CALLER OPTED TO WAIT UNTIL JULY THE 20TH.

VERY WELL.

WHILE THEY'RE PATCHING IN THE CALLER FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE, I WILL REREAD IT TO REMIND US ALL WHAT WE ARE COVERING RIGHT NOW.

NOW, IF WE CAN MOVE ON, IF WE HAVE THE APPLICANT FOR ITEM THREE, AND IF NOT, WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 18.

ALL RIGHT, SIR,

ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALE.

ALL OVER LAYS REMAINING THE SAME, LOCATED AT 33 20 COMMERCIAL AVENUE, 25 NOTICES, MAILS ONE IN FAVOR.

NONE IN OPPOSITION, NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

MR. PENA, ARE YOU ON THE LINE, SIR? MR. PENA? MR. PENA, ARE YOU THERE? SENIOR PENA? I'M HERE.

MM-HMM.

MR. GNA, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROJECT.

UH, I AM ASKING TO CONVERT MY R FOUR, UM, PROPERTY INTO A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY FOR A CAR DEALERSHIP, UH, A SMALL USED CAR LOT.

UM, I HAVE SUBMITTED, UH, THE, THE DRAWING FOR THAT CAR LOT.

UH, AND I WAS ASKED ABOUT, UM, A COUPLE CONDITIONS.

I THINK THERE WAS ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN CONDITIONS, SEVEN CONDITIONS, UM, THAT I WENT OVER WITH YOU ALL.

AND, UM, I WAS OKAY WITH, I BELIEVE FOUR OUT OF THE SEVEN.

UH, AND THEN I PUT INTO QUESTION A COUPLE OF THOSE, A COUPLE OF THOSE, UM, CONDITIONS.

I'M NOT SURE IF Y'ALL, IF Y'ALL ARE AWARE OF THAT OR, OR WHERE WE ARE ON THAT.

WELL, THANK YOU MR. PENA.

I THINK WE CAN GET TO THAT WHEN THERE ARE QUESTIONS FOR YOU FROM COMMISSIONER MCGEE IN PARTICULAR.

UH, AND SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, STAFF.

IS THERE ANY, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT? ANY, ANY WHAT? I'M SORRY.

SORRY, MR. PENA, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA ASK FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN WE'LL, I I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS ANY, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONER MCGEE'S QUESTIONS FOR YOU, AND I THINK SHE'LL TOUCH ON THE CONDITIONS.

YES, MA'AM.

YES, SIR.

ITERATE THE CONDITIONS WE WERE CONSIDERING.

UM, STAFF, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, SIR.

UH, THANK YOU CHAIR, MS. MARTINEZ.

ALL RIGHTY.

SO, MR. PENA, WE, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, JUST RE UM, UM,

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UM, SO WE WILL, UM, LOOK AT THE NO ALCOHOL.

THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THAT SITE PLAN UP SO WE CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT'S IN THE AREA.

UH, UH, NOT THE SITE PLAN, BUT THE ZONING MAP.

SO, UM, NO ALCOHOL, NO.

UH, I, I, THAT WAS RIGHT.

UM, NO FREESTANDING POLE SIGNAGE AND NO L E D OR FLASHING SIGNAGE.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH, UH, STAFF ON THAT ONE.

UH, WELL, ACTUALLY IT WAS THE ONE, THE NO TEMPORARY SIGNAGE, RIGHT? THE BANNERS, TENANTS, PROMOTIONAL FLAGS.

IS THAT THE ONE YOU WANTED TO WORK WITH THEM ON? MM-HMM.

SO I'M NOT GONNA, UH, READ THAT ONE.

UH, NO ONSITE AUTO BATTERY, BODY REPAIR OR PAINTING PERMITTED OUTDOORS OR INDOORS, AND NO OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND OR SPEAKERS PERMITTED.

YES, CORRECT.

I HAVE ALL OF THOSE RIGHT HERE.

MM-HMM.

WELL, UM, THAT IS THE CONDITIONS I, UH, WOULD LIKE TO READ INTO THE, UH, RECORD IN JUST A LITTLE BIT, BUT I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

LET ME JUST, UH, TURN IT OVER BACK TO THE CHAIR TO SEE IF ANYONE ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, UM, FOR YOU.

COMMISSIONER MCGEE.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. PENA? UH, SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER MCGEE? UH, MOTION AND DISCUSSION? OKAY.

UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM, UH, NUMBER THREE WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

UH, NO ALCOHOL RESTRICTION, UM, NO, UH, FREE STANDINGS, FULL SIGNAGE, NO L E D OR FLASHING SIGNAGE.

AND THEN NO ONSITE AUTO BODY REPAIR OR PAINTING PERMITTED, OUTDOOR OR INDOORS, NO OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND OR SPEAKERS PERMITTED.

COMMISSIONER MCGEE.

THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH THE LISTED CONDITIONS AS READ IN THE RECORD.

EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY.

WE NEED ONE CLARIFICATION BEFORE THAT MOTION CAN BE MADE.

UH, COMMISSIONER MCGEE, THAT IS THE ADDITION OF THE NA, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.

SO IT'S, UH, TO AMEND THE REQUEST TO C TWO N A CD YES.

FOR, UH, MOTOR VEHICLE SALES WITH THE CONDITIONS AS STATED? YES, MA'AM.

VERY GOOD.

UH, VERY GOOD.

IN LIGHT OF THAT, UM, DOES THE SECOND REMAIN, COMMISSIONER JONES? COMMISSIONER JONES, UM, IN LIGHT OF THE AMENDMENT? YES.

YES.

UH, ALRIGHT.

THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE? UH, STAFF ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER TEM? YES.

COMMISSIONER, WE COMMISSIONER A DR.

CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, PLEASE.

PROTE GREATHOUSE? YES.

VICE CHAIR SES AND CHAIR? BUSANTE AYE.

[18. 21-4347 ZONING CASE Z-2021-10700122 (Council District 5): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 MLOD-2 MLR-1 AHOD“ Residential Single-Family Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District to "R-4 MLOD-2 MLR-1 AHOD“ Residential Single-Family Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District on Lot 83, Block 2, NCB 11314, located at 1354 Menefee Boulevard. Staff recommends Approval.(Mirko Maravi, Senior Planner (210) 207-0107, mirko.maravi@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)]

ITEM NUMBER 18 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO R FOUR.

LOCATED AT 1354 MENIFEE BOULEVARD.

THERE WERE 13 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR.

THREE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION.

FOUR RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION OUTSIDE OF 200 SEATS, AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THOMPSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

STAFF.

IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF, UH, AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND THEN PLEASE TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROJECT.

HI EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS JOSE NINO.

I, I AM, UH, WORKING WITH THE, AS THE, AS THE DEVELOPER WITH THE INVESTOR OWNER.

AND WE ARE PROPOSING A REZONING OF THE PROPERTY AT 1354 MENIFEE BOULEVARD, UH, FROM R SIX TO R FOUR.

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MR. NINO, UM, STAFF, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, SIR.

NO COMMENT? MM-HMM.

THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE.

UM, AND SO THEREFORE, UH, MR. NINO, UM, I'M A LITTLE CURIOUS AS TO WHAT STEPS YOU'VE TAKEN TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS FROM THE NEIGHBORS AND, AND WHAT STEPS YOU'VE TAKEN TO TALK TO THE THOMPSON NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATION.

IF YOU COULD TELL ME ABOUT THAT, PLEASE.

SO WE HAVE BEEN, UH, IN, IN TALKS WITH NEIGHBORHOOD, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

WE'VE BROUGHT THE PROJECT TO THEIR ATTENTION SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, AND WE, UH, SHARED OUR PLANS.

WE SHARED A, A LAND PLAN WITH THEM.

BASICALLY A LOT SCHEME, A CONCEPTUAL LOT SCHEME.

AND, UM, I'VE GOTTEN TO SPEAK TO MR. RUDY ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT.

MY UNDERSTANDING FROM HIM IS THAT THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS.

AND, UH, UH, THE OWNER WHO IS, UH, INVESTMENTS ROAD LIST IS AN ENTITY THAT, UM, HAS SEVERAL PROPERTIES, SEVERAL COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND HE'S BEEN, UM, UH, THE, UH, THE, THE FAMILY THAT OWNS AND OPERATES THOSE BUSINESSES HAS BEEN A SUPPORTER OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND, UM, LIKEWISE, UH, THOMPSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT.

SO WE HAVE NOT HEARD CONCERNS.

THEIR CONCERNS WERE PRIMARILY THAT WE WERE GONNA REZONE FOR MULTI-FAMILY, WHICH WE'RE NOT, WE'RE WE'RE KEEPING THE PRO THE PROPERTY AS RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND LOW DENSITY AT THAT.

SO, UH, I THINK WE ADDRESSED THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CONCERNS.

AND WE HAVE BEEN, UH, SINCE A VERY EARLY, UH, PHASE IN THE PROJECT COMMUNICATING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU MR. NINO.

AND HOW MANY, UH, LOTS ARE YOU LOOKING TO PLACE ON THIS PROPERTY? HOW MANY HOMES AT THE MOMENT? WE ARE, UH, ANTICIPATING OR ESTIMATING 48 LOTS WITHIN THE 6.8 ACRES.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, I'M GONNA GO TO MYSELF THEN.

UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN R SIX TO R FOUR REZONING FOR 6.8 ACRE PROPERTY.

UH, NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, UH, SO THAT YOU CAN GET SOME BUY-IN, UH, ON THIS BECAUSE THERE WERE A NUMBER OF SUBMITTED OPPOSITIONS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE THREE FOLKS WHO ARE WITHIN THE 200 FOOT AREA THAT IS, UM, THAT ARE OPPOSED.

SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, GET A FORMAL BUY-IN FROM THEM.

BUT BECAUSE IT'S R SIX TO R FOUR, I AM MOVING FOR APPROVAL AT THIS TIME FOR ITEM NUMBER 18.

ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE.

COMMISSIONER JONES.

THERE'S A SECOND.

STAFF ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO A H O D TO C TWO S A H O D WITH SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A CAR WASH LOCATED AT 87 97 BED ROAD.

COMMISSIONER? UH, YES.

C COMMISSIONER? WE COMM.

WHITE COMMISSIONER? YES.

COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.

C PROTE.

GREATHOUSE? YES.

GREATHOUSE, VICE CHAIR.

UH, STAFF IF WE COULD, THE NEXT ITEM PLEASE.

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ITEM 20

[20. 21-4272 ZONING CASE Z-2021-10700127 S (Council District 7): A request for a change in zoning from "C-2 AHOD" Commercial Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-2 S AHOD" Commercial Airport Hazard Overlay District with a Specific Use Authorization for a Car Wash on Lot 2, Block 1, NCB 18128, located at 8797 Bandera Road. Staff recommends Denial. (Justin Malone, Planner, (210) 207-0157, Justin.Malone@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)]

THERE WERE EIGHT NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION.

AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IDES EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.

THE EXISTING C TWO IS CONSISTENT WITH NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, ALTHOUGH THE BASE DISTRICT WILL REMAIN C TWO.

THE PROPOSED USED CAR WASH IS NOT CONSISTENT OR COMPATIBLE WITH IMMEDIATE SURROUNDING LAND USES, WHICH INCLUDE NATURAL RESOURCES, PUBLIC FACILITIES, PARKS AND GREEN RATES.

GREEN WAYS STAFF RECOMMENDED DENIAL.

IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? UH, YES SIR.

I AM.

MY NAME IS KEVIN LOVE, UH, 2 0 0 7 SAN CLIFF, SAN ANTONIO, MY ADDRESS.

OKAY, MR. LOVE, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROJECT.

WILL DO.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE, IT WOULD BE JUST OUTSIDE OF OUR PROPERTY, ACTUALLY.

IT'S, UM, ABOUT A ONE AND A HALF ACRE, JUST UNDER ONE AND A HALF ACRE, UH, TUNNEL DRIVE, CAR WASH.

UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU SEEN 'EM AROUND TOWN, THEY'RE, UH, IT WOULD BE A B CLEAN CAR WASH.

AND, UM, UH, BASICALLY IT'S AT THE CORNER OF VANDER ROAD, MYSTIC PARK.

AND, UH, CURRENTLY, UM, OR AT THE HARD CORNER, ACTUALLY CURRENTLY WE HAVE C TWO ALL AROUND US.

UM, I BELIEVE STAFF, UH, WHICH THEY JUST SENT THEIR RECOMMENDATION ON FRIDAY.

SO I HAVEN'T EVEN HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO SITE, UH, COMMISSIONER SITES OR, UH, UH, FRANK WITH US IN, IN, UH, COUNCILPERSON SANDOVAL'S OFFICE.

SO, UM, IT'S CAUGHT US A LITTLE OFF GUARD, BUT, UH, NONETHELESS WE WE'RE SURROUNDED BY C TWO.

I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A PARK NEXT TO US, UM, ACCORDING TO OUR SITE PLAN, WHICH YOU CAN SEE WHERE, UH, THE PARK IS ACTUALLY ACTUALLY BUFFERED, UH, BY ABOUT 33 FEET.

WE HAVE ABOUT A 33 FOOT BUFFER, AND THEN WE HAVE A DRIVE AND THEN PROBABLY ANOTHER 10 FEET.

AND THAT'S WHERE OUR CAR WASH BEGINS.

UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, A PARK, A CAR WASH, UH, THESE CAR WASHES.

UM, UH, SOME, SOMETIMES THE CONCERN HAS BEEN THE, THE NOISE OF THE VACUUMS. UM, IF YOU ARE STANDING, UH, AT THE STREET ON, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THESE CAR WASHES, IF NOT ALL OF THEM, YOU WILL NOT HEAR THE VACUUM.

UH, I, I, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY 90, PROBABLY ALL OF THEM.

IF YOU STAND ON THE STREET, YOU WILL NOT HAVE THE PEER OF THE VACUUMS. IF YOU STAY, IF YOU ARE IN THE EDGE OF THE PARK, YOU WILL NOT HEAR THE VACUUMS. UM, AND, AND THAT'S THE TYPE OF VACUUM CLEANER THAT BE, YOU KNOW, THE VACUUM PUMPS, I GUESS THAT, UH, BEE CLEAN USES.

UM, WITH REGARDS TO THE INSURANCE OR, OR BANDERA ROAD BEING A CORRIDOR, UH, CURRENTLY WE HAVE A 35 FOOT BUFFER, UH, OFF OF THE PROPERTY LINE, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM THE CAR WASH TO THE PROPERTY LINE OF BANDERA ROAD.

UH, THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT 40 FEET, UH, TO THE ACTUAL PAVEMENT.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 70, YOU KNOW, 70, 75, YEAH, ABOUT 75 FEET OF BUFFERING.

SO I, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE FEEL LIKE IT'S A, A GREAT AREA.

WE FEEL LIKE THE, THE, THE, THE DEMAND IS DEFINITELY GONNA BE HERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR CAR WASHES ARE, ARE USED ALL OF THE TIME.

I MEAN, THEY'RE HEAVILY, UM, UH, HEAVILY LIGHT, I GUESS I SHOULD SAY.

UM, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR, AS FAR AS TRAFFIC GOES, WE'RE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY DIRECT ACCESS OFF OF BANDERA ROAD.

SO I, YOU KNOW, I HAPPEN TO LIKE THIS FA UH, THIS LOCATION.

UM, I, I BELIEVE THAT IT IS CONDUCIVE IF, UH, YOU KNOW, I GUESS IT WOULD BE OFF OF OUR PROPERTY.

ACTUALLY, LET ME LOOK TO SEE ON OUR PROPERTY, UH, WHERE THAT 33 FEET IS.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE,

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THE DRIVE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DRIVE ADJACENT TO THE PARK, I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT SPACE IN BETWEEN US AND THE PARK.

UM, IT'S ALSO A DRAINAGE EASEMENT.

AND, AND THE PARK IS, IS, WELL, THE PARK IS LOCATED IN FLOODPLAIN ACTUALLY, BUT WE, UH, YOU KNOW, IF IT WOULDN'T, YOU KNOW, MAKE SOME FOLKS HAPPY, WE'D BE WILLING TO, TO PLANT SOME SHRUBS, UM, EVEN THOUGH NOTHING WOULD BE REQUIRED.

BUT, UH, I MEAN, I LOOK FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR FEEDBACK.

UM, BUT AGAIN, WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE BELIEVE WE'RE IN A GREAT AREA THAT IS CONDUCIVE TO CAR WASH.

UM, LEMME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. LOVE.

IF YOU WOULD HOLD, UH, ON THE LINE, UH, WE'LL GET TO THAT STAFF.

IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, SIR.

THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS IS A DISTRICT SEVEN CASE, UH, COMMISSIONER SIPES TO YOU? YES.

UM, AND, UH, I GUESS I HAVE A, A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR, FOR THE, THE APPLICANT.

UM, AND ONE OF THOSE IS, YOU KNOW, ONE, ONE OF THE BENEFITS TO HAVING AN S DESIGNATION IS THAT WE CAN ADD, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS OR CONDITIONS SOMETIMES.

UM, AND, AND YOU HAD MENTIONED, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.

UM, BUT I I, I, I WILL ADMIT, I DO SHARE THE CONCERN THAT THE STAFF HAS AS FAR AS IT BEING, UM, AN ENTRY POINT INTO KIND OF THE PARK THAT'S RIGHT BEHIND IT.

UM, AND I WAS WONDERING, UM, I, I NOTICED THE, UH, UM, THE B CAR WASH THAT'S OFF OF I 10 HAS A, HAS HAS A LARGE, UM, UH, COMMERCIAL FLAG.

NOT, NOT A, NOT LIKE A UNITED STATES OR A TEXAS FLAG, BUT LIKE A COMMERCIAL FLAG.

IT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PROPOSALS FOR LARGE SIGNAGE SUCH AS THAT AT THIS, AT THIS LOCATION AS WELL? UM, AS FAR AS, BOBBY USED TO PUT, UH, AS TALL A FLAG POLE FOR AN AMERICAN FLAG AS, AS HE COULD GET.

UM, HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY PLANS TO PUT AN AMERICAN FLAG AT THIS LOCATION.

UM, AND AS WITH REGARDS TO SIGNAGE, IT WOULD BE, UH, ON BANDERA ROAD AND WHATEVER IS ALLOWABLE.

SO, UM, I, I GUESS JUST TO ADD TO THAT, I, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL LIKE THE CORNER, UM, IS HARD CORNER, UH, WOULD BE CONDUCIVE TO FAST FOOD.

UM, I, YOU KNOW, I THINK BOBBY GOT A HOLD OF IT AS, AS, AS SOON AS HE COULD.

BUT I THINK THIS WOULD BE ALSO BE A GREAT PLACE FOR A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT, WHICH WOULD BE, UH, ALLOWABLE IN THE C TWO.

UM, I, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE BUFFER GOES, UM, YEAH, I MEAN, WE'D BE WILLING TO LOOK AT THE, AT SOME PLANTINGS FOR SURE.

UM, BUT YEAH, SIGNAGE, IT WOULD BE ON BANDERA ROAD AND IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, PER THE CURRENT ORDINANCES.

UM, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UH, AT THIS TIME I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

OH, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR STAFF, AND THAT WAS, UH, I HAD HEARD THAT THERE WAS A PLANNING RECOMMENDATION AGAINST THIS SITE AS WELL, AND I WAS WONDERING WAS THAT PLANNING AND, AND THE APPLICANT COULD RESPOND TO THIS AS WELL, BECAUSE I WASN'T SURE IF IT WAS THE ACTUAL PLANNING COMMISSION OR IF IT WAS PLANNING STAFF THAT WAS ALSO RECOMMENDING A DENIAL? YES, THERE ARE.

UH, IT'S THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, NOT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND, UH OKAY.

STAFF WE ALIGN WITH, UH, WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATION.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, AND I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, SO OPEN IT UP TO OTHER COMMISSIONERS.

COMMISSIONER SIPS.

COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER OTO, I SEE YOU, IF YOU WOULD.

I, I, I WANNA AGREE WITH THE DENIAL, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE THIS IS COMING FROM.

UM, I HAVE A NUMBER OF CONCERNS ABOUT THIS SECTION IN OUR BACKGROUND, PUBLIC POLICY ANALYSIS.

SO I GUESS MY, MY QUESTIONS ARE FOR STAFF, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS SECTION.

I'M JUST NOT GETTING A CLEAR EXPLANATION HERE FOR WHY YOU'RE RECOMMENDING DENIAL.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY KNOWS.

I THINK, I THINK IT'S TRUE.

NANI FALCON WAS A LONG TIME ZONING COMMISSIONER MM-HMM.

, UM, AND

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SO FIRST OF ALL, UM, IT SAYS IN HERE THE APPLICANT SEEKS TO BUILD THE CAR WASH, WHICH IS A CONSIDERABLY LOWER INTENSITY OF USE.

THEN THE HIGHER INTENSITY USES ENCOURAGE FOR THESE TYPES OF STRATEGIC NOTES.

AND, AND THEN IT GOES ON TO SAY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS IDENTIFIED THIS LOCATION AS AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, THAT IS STRONGLY SUITED FOR TRANSIT SUPPORTIVE DEVELOPMENT AND TRAIL ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.

I MEAN, I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT THAT IS, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE A THING, IT'S LIKE A HOPE.

UM, IN AN ALTERNATE CONFIGURATION, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS THE POTENTIAL TO INCORPORATE PUBLIC AND SEMI-PUBLIC SPACE INTO THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT, UM, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY OUT OF A, A PLANNING TEXTBOOK KIND OF THING.

BUT I, I GUESS I'M JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT STAFF IS SAYING HERE.

ARE YOU SAYING THERE'S ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS BECAUSE IT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT A CONCERN REGARDING STORM WATER MANAGEMENT AND CREEK PRESERVATION? AS THE SITE PLAN FEATURES A LARGE FOOTPRINT OF IMPERVIOUS COVER ADDITIONAL REVIEW BY THE RELEVANT DEPARTMENT OR AGENCY FOR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT IS STRONGLY ENCOURAGED.

WELL, IF STAFF DOESN'T KNOW WHO THAT RELEVANT DEPARTMENT OR AGENCY IS AND CAN'T NAME THEM TO US, WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THAT SENTENCE? SO I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT STAFF'S OBJECTION TO THIS.

IS THERE AN ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERN? IS IT JUST VISUAL? IS IT JUST THAT THERE'S LIKE A WISH THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING TRAIL ORIENTED AT THIS CORNER? I'M REALLY LOST ON THE BASIS FOR TRA FOR STAFF'S, UH, RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL STAFF.

GOOD LUCK, UH, .

NO PROBLEM.

WELL, THE, THE DIRECTLY RELEVANT GOALS FOR THE NORTH NORTHWEST COMMUNITY PLAN DO INCLUDE PRESERVING AN INCREASING PARK AND OPEN SPACE.

AND THEY ALSO, UH, TALK, SPEAK TO MYSTIC PARK BEING LIMITED TO ACTIVITIES LIKE WALKING TRAILS, UH, BALL FIELDS, OTHER SIMILAR THINGS.

UH, SOME OF THIS AREA IS IN THE CREEKWAY, AND SO OF COURSE THERE WOULD BE SOME CONCERNS WITH POTENTIAL FLOODING OR WATER, AND ALL OF THAT WOULD BE MANAGED THROUGH OUR STORM WATER DEPARTMENT.

UM, THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU'RE READING DOES, DID COME DIRECTLY FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

AND SO I, UH, I CAN TELL YOU THAT IN OUR ALIGNMENT WITH THEM, WE DO AGREE THAT YES, IT IS TRUE THAT A CAR WASH IS A LOWER INTENSITY USE, UH, IN COMPARISON TO THE THINGS THAT COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL FOR THIS AREA OFFERS, WHICH IS OFFICES, PROFESSIONAL BUILDINGS, RETAIL USES, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

BUT I THINK THE KEY WORDS HERE AND THE THINGS THAT WE PULLED UP WERE, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A TRANSIT SUPPORTIVE DEVELOPMENT AND, AND BE MORE CONNECTED, RIGHT.

TO CREATE MORE CONNECTIVITY.

SO YEAH, SOMETIMES I THINK PLANNING IDEALS CAN BE, CAN APPEAR FARFETCHED, BUT IF YOU STICK WITH, UM, WITH WHAT THE CORE VALUES ARE HERE, WHICH WAS THOSE PRESERVATION OF THE PARK AND THE OPEN SPACE, I THINK THERE IS A LOT TO BE SAID TO THAT.

AND ALSO THE FACT THAT THERE'S A DRAFT BANDERA CORRIDOR PLAN RIGHT NOW.

AND, UM, SO AN ACTIVITY, ACTIVITY LIKE A CAR WASH COULD BE ADVERSE IN THAT IT COULD BRING MORE TRAFFIC TO THE AREA.

UM, AND THIS AREA IS ACTUALLY BEING PROMOTED FOR MORE P PEDESTRIAN BIKE FRIENDLY AND WALKABLE KINDS OF ACTIVITY.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND THEN I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. LOVE, IF I COULD.

UM, YES MA'AM.

SO, UM, I WAS JUST A LITTLE UNDERWHELMED BY YOUR OFFER TO PUT IN A FEW SHRUBS, UM, WHICH SHE'D BE WILLING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE, UM, HOWEVER BIG THE BUFFER WOULD BE.

WOULD, WOULD YOU COMMIT TO SOMETHING LIKE NATIVE PLANTING USING, USING PLANTS THAT ARE IN APPENDIX, WHATEVER IT IS OF B U D C? SURE.

YEAH, DEFINITELY WE WOULD, WE WOULD, WE WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT.

UM, YEAH, SURE.

WANNA KNOW ABOUT THE NATIVE S AND AND THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIR.

UH, I MEAN, WE HAVE ABOUT, UH, I WANNA SAY ABOUT 10 FEET WITHIN OUR CONTROL.

UM, BUT, UH, WE COULD WORK WITH THE SELLER TO, YOU KNOW, TO TO, TO POSSIBLY WIDEN THE PLANTINGS.

UM, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NEXT DOOR IS RETAIL, I GUESS, UH, WE'RE GUESSING RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT'S GONNA BE ALLOWED, UH, I'M SORRY, NOT BE ALLOWED, BUT WHAT, UH, WHAT WILL, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF DEAL WILL GO, WILL HAPPEN THERE.

UM, OKAY.

THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION.

I, I JUST

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COMMISSIONER RAM.

MAY I RESPOND TO STAFF COMMENT, MR. LOVE? NOT RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER KAMATH.

BUT, UM, IF, UH, COMMISSIONER ASKS YOU A QUESTION, YOU CAN ADDRESS THAT QUESTION.

UH, COMMISSIONERS ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER KAMATH, UH, I SHARE THE, UH, SAME, UH, CONCERNS AND OPINION DOC, UH, DR.

ROMERO OR COMMISSIONER ROMERO EXPRESSED, UH, REGARDING THE, UH, REASONS KNOWN BY THE CITY STAFF FOR DENIAL.

UM, BUT ALSO I'M ALSO APPRECIATIVE OF THE APPLICANT, UH, WILLING TO, UH, PLANT SOME, UH, TREES THAT KIND OF, UH, HELPS IT, UH, ASSIMILATE WITH THE PARK IN THE BACKGROUND.

SO I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF, UH, THIS APPLICANT, BUT I WILL, UH, WAIT TILL THE, IT COMES FOR THE VOTE.

UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, I SAW YOUR HAND.

QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, PLEASE, MR. LOVE.

CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE HOURS OF OPERATION ARE GONNA BE FOR THIS, UH, PROPOSED BUSINESS? IT WOULD BE EIGHT TO SEVEN.

UH, SOMETIMES, UH, THEY HAVE OPENED AT 9:00 AM UH, SO, UH, AND ACTUALLY, I, I CORRECT MYSELF.

I BELIEVE IT'S ALL 9:00 AM NOW TILL 7:00 PM.

UM, I KNOW THEY USED TO BE OPEN AT EIGHT, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'RE OPEN AT EIGHT ANYMORE.

AND IS THAT, UM, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK OR? YES, MA'AM.

SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

AND WHAT, UH, WHAT TYPE OF WATER RECLAMATION, UM, LEVEL ARE THEY DOING? ARE THEY JUST DOING THE MINIMUM REQUIRED BY CODE, OR ARE THEY DOING ABOVE AND BEYOND? UH, WE'RE DOING ABOVE AND BEYOND.

WE'RE UP OVER 80% NOW.

UH, OUR SYSTEMS ARE UP OVER 80%.

SO, UM, I WANNA SAY IN DR.

ROMERO'S DISTRICT, UH, I BELIEVE WE GOT UP TO, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS AT THAT TIME WE GOT UP TO ABOUT 80%.

I I THINK IT'S CLOSER TO 85%, BUT I KNOW THEY'RE 80%.

YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ORGANIC.

AND, UM, WHAT ABOUT THE TYPE OF SOLUTIONS THAT YOU USE? UM, THE TYPE OF WATER RECLAMATION? I, NO, WHAT TYPE OF CLEANING SOLUTIONS? I MEAN, HOW ARE YOU, WHAT ASSURANCE CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT? OKAY.

UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL ORGANIC.

THE DETERGENTS THAT, UH, THAT BOBBY USES AND HIS CAR WASHES ARE, SO, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY, UH, CLEANING SOLUTIONS THAT YOU CAN GET, SO.

AND, UM, YEAH, WE CAN GET, WE, WE CAN GET SPECS FOR EVERYONE PRIOR TO CITY COUNCIL, UM, PROVIDED, UM, Y'ALL ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT AND WE GET THAT FAR.

UM, I HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION.

SO, UM, WITH REGARD TO CARE OF THE PREMISE AND THE PROPERTY, UH, I KNOW PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE VACUUMING THEIR CARS AND PUTTING TRASH IN TRASH CANS, BUT DO YOU HAVE STAFF ON SITE THAT'S GOING TO BE ON TOP OF BLOWING TRASH AND WHAT HAVE YOU? YES, MA'AM.

IF YOU GO, YOU'RE, Y'ALL ARE WELCOME TO GO AND ENCOURAGE YOU, UH, YOUR CARS WILL GET THE CLEANEST AT THIS TYPE OF, WITH EQUIPMENT USED IN A BEE CLEAN IF, UM, THERE'S TWO EMPLOYEES ON STAFF AT ALL TIMES.

AND IF YOU GO TO ANY ONE OF THESE FACILITIES, IT'S CLEAN.

IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS PICKED UP EVERY DAY.

THEY'RE VACUUMED, UH, WITH A LARGE COMMERCIAL, UH, UH, TYPE VACUUM.

UH, IT'S ACTUALLY HAND OPERATED, BUT THEY'LL GO OVER AND, AND, AND, AND CLEAN THE AREA, SO, OKAY.

CLEAN THE, UH, THAT'S THAT.

I MEAN, HOW WOULD YOU PREVENT SOMETHING MORE INTRUSIVE FROM, FROM GOING THERE AND, AND BEING IN TOTAL CONFLICT WITH WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE TRYING TO DO AS FAR AS YOUR, UM, GOALS AND POLICIES? SO USE IS PERMITTED BY RIGHTS SO LONG AS THEY, UM, COMPLY WITH THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, IN EFFECT, CAN PROCEED TO GET A PERMIT.

THAT'S ALL FOR APPLICANT.

I DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

SO STAFF, I, I'M, I'M WRESTLING WITH THIS, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE AESTHETICS OF ARE, I WOULD PREFER TO NOT HAVE THIS KIND OF BUSINESS AT THE PARK, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE REASON WHY THEY WANNA, YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT PARTICULAR SITE.

UM, AND I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECT OF THAT PARK.

UM, BUT IF THIS CASE WERE DENIED AND THERE'S CURRENT C TWO ZONING THERE,

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UH, WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US TODAY IS, UH, A REQUEST TO CHANGE THAT ZONING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, TO ADD A MORE INTENSE USE.

UM, AND SO THIS, THIS PROCESS GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO EVALUATE THAT REQUEST.

UH, BUT, AND, AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING IS EVALUATING IT, UM, UH, COMPARED TO A CORRIDOR PLAN THAT'S BEEN IN THE PROCESS, UH, TO, TO MORE OR LESS LOOK AT CHANGING THIS AREA INSTEAD OF CONTINUING WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING OVER THE YEARS.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.

THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? UH, I THINK I SAW COMMISSIONER SIP.

SO WE ARE BEGINNING ROUND TWO.

OH, SO COMMISSIONER HUEY, DID YOU HAVE, THANK YOU.

YES, THANK QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

UH, IS THE INGRESS AND EGRESS GOING TO BE ON JUST ON ALONG BANDERA ROAD, OR IS IT GOING TO BE ON MYSTIC PARK AS WELL? SO OUR INGRESS, EGRESS EASEMENT, OR I'M SORRY, OUR INGRESS EGRESS WOULD BE OFF OF MYSTIC PARK.

UM, MYSTIC AND BANDERA IS A SIGNALED INTERSECTION, UH, WHICH OBVIOUSLY MAKES IT A HARD CORNER.

OUR EXPECTED PEAK HOUR TRIPS OBSERVED, OR ABOUT, I, I HEARD TRAFFIC MENTIONED EARLIER, WAS 45, UH, WHERE 44 TO 45 PEAK HOUR TRIPS, UH, FAST FOOD RESTAURANT, UH, YOU WOULD PROBABLY BE LOOKING AT DEFINITELY OVER 200.

UH, THANK YOU.

WITH REGARDS TO THE SURE.

UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

ALRIGHT, NOW TO COMMISSIONER S SIPES, AND THIS WILL BE THE SECOND AND FINAL ROUND OF QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT, THANKS.

UM, THIS IS ANOTHER QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT BECAUSE AS, AS MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE ASKED GREAT QUESTIONS, IT JUST FORMS MORE IN MY HEAD.

UM, LIGHTING, UH, WHAT, WHAT KIND OF LIGHTING ARE, ARE YOU PROPOSING FOR THIS SITE? IS IT ALL DOWNWARD FACING OR IS THERE, UH, I'M TRYING TO SEE IF THERE'S, UH, SOME PROVISIONS WE CAN USE TO PROTECT THE NIGHTTIME AT THE PARK THERE.

SO ALL OF OUR LIGHTING IS ZERO CUTOFF.

I MEAN, WE'RE CUT OFF.

SO WE DO NOT, IT, YEAH, IT, IT'S, IT'S CUT OFF FROM GOING UP, UH, AT THE CORNERS.

WE CUT OFF THE SIDES.

UM, SO I, I'M NOT SURE IF THE, I BELIEVE THE PARK HAS LIGHTING.

UM, UH, I'M NOT SURE THAT WOULD BE A BAD THING, BUT YES, WE DO NOT, WE, WE, WE DO NOT LIGHT UP THE SKY.

UH, SOME OF THE PARK, YEAH, SOME OF THE PARK HAS LIGHTING, BUT I KNOW, UM, THAT, UH, ONE, WHEN, WHEN THEY FIRST BUILT NON FALCON PARK, ONE OF THE CONCERNS FROM THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS WAS ON THE LIGHTING IN THE PARK.

UM, SO THAT, THAT'S WHY I ASKED THAT QUESTION.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SIPES.

WELL, UH, THANK YOU.

UM, LET, SEE, LET'S SEE IF I'VE GOT ANYTHING ELSE WRITTEN DOWN.

UM, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, SO THANK YOU FOR THOSE ANSWERS.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER SIPES FOR A MOTION AND DISCUSSION.

ENTIRE AREA IS, IS, IS FLOODPLAIN.

AND I HATE TO SAY THAT THIS IS A DIFFICULT CASE BECAUSE IT SEEMS RELATIVELY SIMPLE, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A CAR WASH AT A COMMERCIAL INTERSECTION.

UM, AND I KNOW, AND I, I DON'T WANT TO, UH, MAKE LIGHT OF OTHER CASES BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE HAD REALLY, REALLY DIFFICULT ONES IN THE PAST.

UM, BUT I DO HAVE A COUPLE CONCERNS.

AND, AND, AND, AND I KNOW THAT I'VE ALWAYS WEIGHED ON WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO IN THIS AREA.

YES, UH, A RESTAURANT COULD GO THERE.

AND, UM, BUT, BUT RIGHT NOW WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US IS, IS, IS THE CAR WATSON.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M KIND OF LOOKING AT, UM, THE HISTORY OF NONNIE FALCON PARK, THAT, THAT ALMOST THAT

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THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE HAVE A PARK THERE.

UM, AND IT HAS BEEN ONE THAT, THAT, UH, HONESTLY I WISH WAS THERE WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE I ACTUALLY WOULD'VE GROWN UP NEXT TO IT BECAUSE, UM, THIS IS MY AREA WHERE I GREW UP, UM, THAT ENTRANCE, I THINK IT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE ARCHITECTURAL WEEDS, IT CALLS FOR SOMETHING ELSE.

WE HAVE A BANK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE INTERSECTION AND WE HAVE THE PARK AND JUST DOWN THE, THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT ACROSS FROM THE PARK, WE HAVE A LIBRARY.

UM, IT, IT, IT'S KIND OF MORE OF A PUBLIC ENTRANCE TO A PUBLIC, UM, AREA.

UM, SO WHILE I SEE THAT THERE'S POSSIBILITIES WHERE THE CAR WASH COULD WORK, UM, AND IT'S NOT A, AND MY RECOMMENDATION ISN'T A, A HARD NO.

UM, BECAUSE I, I THINK WITH SOME WORK, SOME ACCOMMODATIONS, UM, IT MIGHT STILL WORK.

AND SO PERHAPS I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO, UH, REACH OUT AND, AND HAVE SOME MORE DISCUSSIONS WITH, WITH, UH, UH, THE DISTRICT SEVEN STAFF, UM, BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL.

BUT, UM, AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL.

UM, THERE WAS A MOTION FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER S SIPES, AND I APOLOGIZE, WAS THAT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? CORRECT.

UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS.

UH, COMMISSIONER DR.

ROME.

UH, I'M GONNA SUPPORT THE MOTION FOR DENIAL.

I, I, I'M REALLY SYMPATHETIC TO THE IDEA AND I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF IT WERE SOMETHING ELSE TOO.

BUT I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT STAFF AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE STAFF.

IT'S PLANNING DEPARTMENT STAFF AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE COMING FROM, THAT THEY WANT THIS TO BE, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF, IF SOMEBODY WHO RENTED BIKES OR SOLD SNOW CONES OR SOMETHING, UH, YOU KNOW, BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY AND OPENED IT.

SO IT WOULD BE REALLY COMPLIMENTARY WITH THE PARK AND IT WOULD BE GREAT.

BUT I'M REAL CONCERNED ABOUT THIS ALMOST BEING A, WE JUST WISH IT WASN'T YOU KIND OF THING FOR THIS PARTICULAR, UH, APPLICANT.

AND I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO THEM.

UM, AND SO I'M JUST, I'M JUST NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE DENIAL.

I'M, I'M JUST NOT SEEING ANY REALLY HARD, CLEAR REASONS EXCEPT WE WISH IT WERE SOMETHING ELSE.

SO I RESPECTFULLY WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS MOTION.

UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS.

UH, COMMISSIONER HUEY AND COMMISSIONER WHITE.

SO I, I SHARE THE CONCERNS OF COMMISSIONER SIPES BECAUSE AGAIN, AS YOU COME INTO MR. PARK, YOU DO HAVE THE LIBRARIES, YOU HAVE THE FIRE STATION, AND YOU HAVE TO PARK.

AND, AND YES, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A NATURAL TRANSITION INTO THOSE SPACES, BUT ALSO SHARE CONCERNS FROM COMMISSIONER, UH, DR.

ROMERO.

IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, I, I WISH IT WAS SOMETHING ELSE, BUT THIS IS THE CASE BEFORE US.

AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S ALLOWED TO BE USED IN, IN THIS, UH, IN THIS, UH, ZONING.

SO I, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING TO DENY.

COMMISSIONER LIGHT.

UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER THAN, UH, DR.

ROMERO.

UM, IT, IT'S THE, THE, I WISH THIS WAS SOMETHING ELSE, UM, IS REALLY, I THINK THE BEST WAY, UH, TO SAY IT AS, AS COMMISSIONER ROMERO DID.

UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US.

I DON'T SEE ANY, ANY REASON OTHER THAN, THAN THAT WISH, UH, TO NOT APPROVE THIS.

UM, SO, UH, RESPECTFULLY, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WHITE COMMISSIONER.

FURTHER DISCUSSION.

SEEING NONE.

ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

MOTION IS FOR DENIAL WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.

JONES? NO.

COMMISSIONER MCGEE? NO.

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COMMISSIONER WHITE? NO.

PRO TEM GREATHOUSE? YES.

IS THERE A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION BY SOMEONE WHO VOTED AGAINST THE PREVIOUS MOTION? MOTION TO RECONSIDER.

COMMISSIONER, HE, UH, MOTION TO RECONSIDER.

SECOND.

UH, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY DR.

COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? NO.

IS THERE AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION OR IS THERE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR? YES.

COMMISSIONER ROME.

I APOLOGIZE.

OH, THAT'S FINE.

UM, I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO, TO RAISE A QUESTION TO COMMISSIONER SIPES BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, I I AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION, BUT I FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE ADDING COM ADDING CONDITIONS 'CAUSE IT'S NOT MY DISTRICT.

AND I KNOW IT WOULD BE UNUSUAL FOR COMMISSIONER SIPES TO MOVE FROM HIS PREVIOUS MOTION TO A NEW MOTION.

UM, BUT IF HE DID WANNA MAKE A NEW MOTION, THEN HE COULD, UH, DEFINE THE CONDITIONS PERHAPS BETTER THAN ANY OF US.

SO I GUESS I'M SORT OF CLOSING THAT AS A QUESTION TO COMMISSIONER SYS IF HE'S CONSIDERING DOING THAT.

WOW.

I, I APPRECIATE WOW.

MAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO RESPOND.

I MEAN, UH, UM, AND, AND NO, I SERIOUSLY, I DO APPRECIATE THE, THE OFFER.

UM, I, AT THIS TIME, I AM NOT GOING, I WOULD NOT CHANGE MY POSITION, BUT IT WOULD MAKE ME FEEL A LOT BETTER IF, IF THERE WAS, UM, CONDITIONS FOR ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING ALONG THE BORDER OF THE, OF THE, UH, OF THE, UH, THE PARK.

UM, AND THAT, UH, THAT, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF RESTRICTIONS YOU COULD PUT ON, ON SIGNAGE AS FAR AS HEIGHT.

UM, I'M TRYING TO JUST, I WOULD JUST NOT WANT LIKE BILLBOARD HEIGHT.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE ONLY CONDITIONS I WOULD BE ADDING.

UM, AND, AND I KNOW THAT THE DISTRICT SEVEN STAFF BETWEEN NOW AND COUNCIL WILL PROBABLY WEIGH IN MORE HEAVILY ON THAT, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.

BUT THANK YOU.

I THINK IT DOES.

COMMISSIONER LOPS, BUT ACTUALLY STAFF, CAN I ASK A QUESTION THAT MIGHT, UH, HOPEFULLY HELP THIS SITUATION? WHEN WOULD THIS GO BEFORE COUNSEL? NOT UNTIL AUGUST 5TH.

19TH.

SO I WOULD, I'M SORRY.

SIMPLY NOTE AUGUST 5TH, THAT THERE WOULD, THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR THIS CASE AT THE NEXT, OR EVEN THE FOLLOWING ZONING, COMMISSION HEARING, AND PERHAPS THAT TIME MIGHT BE HELPFUL.

IF THERE IS A MOTION.

I WILL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 20.

COMMISSIONER ROMERO.

COMMISSIONER ROMERO HAS MOVED FOR APPROVAL.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND HUEY.

UM, ANY DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS? NO ONE LIKED MY RECOMMENDATION, BUT COMMISSIONER ROMERO TO YOU, I JUST SAY THIS FOR THE RECORD, I DO HOPE WHEN IT GOES TO COUNCIL THAT ONE OF THE CONDITIONS INCLUDES, UH, A REQUIREMENT FOR NOT JUST LANDSCAPING, BUT NATIVE LANDSCAPING.

UH, THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER O'NEAL.

THERE'S A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HUEY.

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BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT WOULD REALLY HELP.

BUT I, I DIDN'T WANNA ADD THAT BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE AT THIS POINT WHERE WE SHOULD SAY IT SHOULD BE AND HOW LARGE THAT SHOULD BE.

BUT WHAT IT SHOULD BE IS NATIVE LANDSCAPING.

THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS, UH, COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES.

AND, AND, AND, AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ROMERO FOR, FOR ADDING THAT, UM, THAT WILL BE IN, IN THE WORKS BETWEEN NOW AND, AND AUGUST, I'M BEEN ASSURED.

GREAT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE.

COMMISSIONER SITES.

STAFF ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER KATH? YES.

COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? NO.

[22. 21-4476 Consideration and Approval of the June 1, 2021 Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes.]

I BELIEVE THAT WAS OUR NEXT TO LAST ITEM.

AND THE LAST ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES COMMISSIONERS.

UH, ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS, AMENDMENTS, AMENDMENTS, UH, ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO THE MINUTES FOR THE JUNE 1ST MEETING AS SUBMITTED? SCENE NONE IS UP.

COMMISSIONER ROMERO, I, IT'S NOT A CORRECTION.

I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE SEVEN WHERE IT SAID THE Z MISSION AND I THINK WE SHOULD ADOPT THAT AS OUR NEW NAME, THE Z MISSION.

ALRIGHT, THE, THE PORT MONTO OF, UH, ZOO MISSION IS, WILL BE SUBMITTED AND PERHAPS WE'LL PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA.

UM, UH, GIVEN THAT, IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? COMMISSIONER, WHITE COMMISSIONER WHITE MOVES TO APPROVE.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND JONES.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER? YES.