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[Call to Order]
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.MY NAME IS JOHN BUSTAMANTE AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT FIVE ZONING COMMISSION.
I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION.
CAN WE HAVE OUR INTERPRETERS READ THE INTERPRETATION SERVICES AVAILABLE FOR THIS MEETING, PLEASE? STAFF, IF WE COULD PLEASE CONDUCT THE ROLL CALL.
UH, PRIOR TO STARTING WITH OUR ITEMS, I WOULD LIKE OUR STAFF TO REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT STAFF, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE TO PROTECT THE HEALTH OF THE PUBLIC AND LIMIT THE POTENTIAL SPREAD OF COVID 19.
THE ZONING COMMISSION IS HOLDING MEETINGS VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE.
THESE MEETING STANDARDS ARE BASED UPON THE VARIOUS SUSPENDED PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT ISSUED BY THE TEXAS GOVERNOR IN RESPONSE TO THE COVID 19 CRISIS AND ARE IN PLACE UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN WATCH AND LISTEN TO THIS MEETING BY VISITING WWW.SANANTONIO.GOV/DSD OR BY CALLING IN FOR AUDIO ONLY AT 2 1 0 2 0 6 5 4 8 3.
TO INCORPORATE PUBLIC COMMENT, THERE ARE FOUR OPPORTUNITIES.
THESE INCLUDE EMAIL OR MAIL OF COMMENTS, DROPPING OFF COMMENTS, LEAVING VOICEMAIL, OR ASKING TO BE CALLED DURING THE MEETING.
STATEMENTS OR COMMENTS RECEIVED ARE PART OF THE OFFICIAL WRITTEN RECORD FOR ITEMS ON INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT.
STAFF WILL PLAY ANY MESSAGES RECEIVED BY VOICEMAIL.
LASTLY, FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO RECEIVE A CALLBACK, WE WILL CALL THEM TO STATE THEIR TWO MINUTE COMMENT.
SPANISH INTERPRETERS ARE ON STANDBY AS NEEDED.
THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL WITH A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS.
STAFF, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE REVIEW THE CURRENT LIST OF CONSENT, INDIVIDUAL COMBINED AND ANY POSTPONED OR WITHDRAWN ITEMS. YES, SIR.
IT WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED AT ALL TODAY.
UH, WHEN THEY ARE READY TO RETURN TO THE ZONING COMMISSION, THERE WILL BE NEW PUBLICATION AND NEW NOTICES MAILED.
UH, FOR COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE, THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE FOR COMBINED HEARING ITEM 3, 5, 7, 10, 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19, AND 21.
ITEMS FOR COMBINED HEARING TWO WHICH ARE REQUESTED CONTINUANCES ARE ITEM EIGHT, NINE, AND 11, AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE WILL BE RECUSING FROM THAT SECTION OF THE MEETING.
ITEM FOR INDIVIDUAL HEARING ARE ITEMS 1, 2, 4, 6, AND 16.
DOES THAT SOUND CORRECT? I BELIEVE SO.
COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS TO BE MOVED EITHER FROM COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE TO COMBINED HEARING NUMBER TWO OR INDIVIDUALLY? YES.
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR ITEM 20.
WHERE DID THAT PARTICULAR CASE MOVE TO? IT'S STILL ON, ON COMBINED HEARING GROUP ONE.
I HEARD YOU SAY 21, SO I MUST'VE WRITTEN IT WRONG.
NO, I THINK YOU MIGHT'VE SKIPPED OVER AT ACCIDENTALLY STAFF, BUT, OKAY.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS, ANY ITEMS TO BE MOVED FROM COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE TO INDIVIDUAL
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OR COMBINED HEARING NUMBER TWO.[Items 3, 5, 7, 10, 13 - 15, 17 - 21]
UH, STAFF, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE READ THE REMAINING CONSENT ITEMS ON COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE INTO THE RECORD.THIS IS COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE.
ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO U, C TWO AND C TWO RIO ONE.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME TO C TWO I DZ U U C TWO AND C TWO I D Z RIO ONE.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 2000 BLOCK OF BROADWAY STREET, THERE WERE 14 NOTICES MAILED.
ONE WAS MAILED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THE WESTPORT ALLIANCE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN IN SUPPORT.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE NA TO C ONE CD WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR A MOBILE FOOD COURT.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 12 NOTICES MAILED ONE.
MAILED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND WESTPORT ALLIANCE IS IN SUPPORT.
THIS IS LOCATED AT 2202 BROADWAY.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I ONE A H O D TO C THREE NA, A H O D, LOCATED AT 1 0 7 3 0 DALE STREET.
THERE WERE 17 NOTICES MAILED, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 10 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO C THREE.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 5 0 5 WEST LOOP, 1604 NORTH.
THERE WERE FOUR NOTICES MAILED.
ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO A H O D TO IDZ, ONE A H O D WITH USES PERMITTED FOR FOR DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 2 0 0 1 WEST POPLAR STREET.
THERE WERE 61 NOTICES MAILED NONE IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, WEST HOPE AND ACTION IS IN FAVOR AND HAVEN FOR HOPE IS ALSO IN SUPPORT.
ITEM NUMBER 14 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM N P EIGHT TO M H P, ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 11 8 9 3 FISHER ROAD.
THERE WERE SEVEN NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 15 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C ONE TO R FOUR.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 32 43, 32 47, 32 51, AND 32 55 MARTIN LUTHER KING DRIVE, THERE WERE 41 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM WHEATLEY HEIGHTS.
ITEM NUMBER 17 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE I H ONE A H O D TO MF 33 I H ONE A H O D.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 1 27 65 NORTH INTERSTATE 35.
ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 18 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO TO C TWO S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A CAR WASH.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 12 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM PIPER'S MEADOW NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 19 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE NA TO RMM.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
MARY STREET, THERE WERE 26 NOTICES MAILED.
ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM KING WILLIAM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 20 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM D A H O D TO D H L A H O D LOCATED AT THREE 11 THIRD STREET.
THERE WERE 22 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY IS IN SUPPORT.
ITEM NUMBER 21 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I D Z THREE WITH USES PERMITTED IN C THREE AND MS 65 TO I D Z THREE HL WITH USES PERMITTED IN C THREE AND M F 65, LOCATED AT 8 75 EAST ASHBY PLACE.
THERE WERE SIX NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION.
THE COM, THE CONATION, THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY IS IN SUPPORT.
IS THERE A MOTION MR. CHAIR? THIS
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IS COMMISSIONER TIS.I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ITEMS NUMBER 3, 5 7 10 13 14 15, 17, 18, 19, 20, AND 21.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE ITEMS. READ INTO THE RECORD, UH, BY COMMISSIONER SIPES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BOTTLES STAFF ROLL CALL.
[Items 8, 9, & 11]
WE WILL MOVE ON TO COMBINED HEARING NUMBER TWO AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS RECUSED FOR TWO OF THESE THREE ITEMS, SO SHE'LL BE RECUSED FOR THIS PORTION OF OUR MEETING.LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT THE TIME IS ONE 14 AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS TURNED OFF HER MICROPHONE AND HER CAMERA.
UH, STAFF, IF WE COULD BEGIN WITH ITEMS EIGHT AND NINE, PLEASE.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM M P C D AND MP C D UC, ONE TO M P C D AND MP C D UC, ONE.
GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 5,800 BLOCK OF U T S A BOULEVARD.
ONE WAS RECEIVED IN FAVOR, TWO IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THIS ITEM IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER THE SEVENTH.
ITEM NUMBER NINE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM RP TO RE LOCATED AT 1 9 7 7 9 PLEASANTON ROAD.
THERE WERE EIGHT NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THIS ITEM IS ALSO ASKING FOR A SIX WEEK CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER THE NINTH.
IS THERE A MOTION MR. CHAIR? THIS IS COMMISSIONER STAES.
I MAKE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCES TO SEPTEMBER 7TH FOR THE FOLLOWING ITEMS, ITEMS NUMBER EIGHT AND NUMBER NINE.
IS THERE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER JONES.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER 7TH FOR ITEMS EIGHT AND NINE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JONES.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.
UH, MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER 7TH, NINE ZERO.
IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 11 STILL ON OUR COMBINED HEARING.
ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO F WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A HOTEL TALLER THAN 35 FEET TO C THREE, LOCATED IN THE 6,300 BLOCK OF NORTHWEST LOOP FOUR 10.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 25 NOTICES MAILED NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR? NONE IN OPPOSITION.
NO RESPONSE FROM THUNDERBIRD HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THE APPLICANT SEEKS A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO AUGUST THE THIRD.
UH, IS THERE A MOTION MR. CHAIR? THIS IS COMMISSIONER SIPES.
I'D MAKE A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE TO AUGUST 3RD FOR ITEM NUMBER 11.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND MCDANIEL.
UH, THERE'S A MOTION FOR A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE OF ITEM NUMBER 11, UH, WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
AND ANY DISCUSSION, SEEING AND HEARING NONE.
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YES.MOTION PASSES FOR A CONTINUANCE TO AUGUST THE THIRD.
ALRIGHT, AND THAT COMPLETES OUR COMBINED HEARING.
COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS RETURNED.
AND, UH, IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL ITEMS, PLEASE.
UH, BEFORE WE START WITH THE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS, JUST WANNA MAKE A STATEMENT FOR THE RECORD RELATED TO THOSE CONTINUED ITEMS. AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE TRANSITIONING FROM THE VIRTUAL, UH, MEETING FORMAT TO THE IN-PERSON MEETING FORMAT.
SO THESE, UH, THREE ITEMS, THREE CASES THAT WERE CONTINUED TO THEIR INDIVIDUAL DATES WILL BE IN PERSON.
SO ANYONE WHO IS LISTENING THAT IS INTERESTED IN IT, IN ATTENDING, UM, THIS WILL BE HELD IN PERSON AT 1901 SOUTH ALAMO, BEGINNING AT ONE O'CLOCK.
UH, FOR THOSE DATES, UH, AS SPECIFIED IN THE, IN THE MOTION, WE WILL BE SENDING COURTESY REMINDER NOTICES TO THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE LOCATION OF THE MEETING IN THE START TIME.
AGAIN, THIS, IT'S BECAUSE WE ARE TRANSITIONING FROM IN PERSON, I MEAN FROM VIRTUAL TO IN PERSON.
UM, I APPRECIATE THAT AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING MANY OF YOU IN PERSON AGAIN AFTER 16 MONTHS, 17 MONTHS, WHATEVER IT'S BEEN.
IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING ITEMS, PLEASE.
[1. 21-4777 (Continued from 06/15/2021) ZONING CASE Z-2021-10700069 CD (Council District 1): A request for a change in zoning from "R-4 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-2 CD IDZ AHOD" Commercial Infill Development Zone Airport Hazard Overlay District with a Conditional Use for a Bar/Tavern on the South 91.51 feet of Lot 13, Block 2, NCB 2074, located at 951 Culebra Road. Staff recommends Approval, pending Plan Amendment. (Associated Plan Amendment PA-2021-11600040) (Mirko Maravi, Senior Planner (210) 207-0107, mirko.maravi@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)]
SIR.ITEM NUMBER ONE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FOUR A H O D TO C TWO C D I D Z A H O D LOCATED, EXCUSE ME, WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A BAR TAVERN LOCATED AT 9 51 CBRA ROAD.
THERE WERE 20 NOTICES MAILED TO RECEIVE IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM WEST END HOPE IN ACTION.
THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY IS OPPOSED.
THE CURRENT R FOUR IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE ALONG COLLIBRA ROAD.
THE CD CONDITIONAL USE ALLOWS CONSIDERATION OF A BAR TAVERN, A USE ALLOWED BY WRIGHT IN THE C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? UH, YES.
WELL, I'M, I'M THE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
IF YOU WOULD, SIR, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND PLEASE TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
I'M WITH BAR ENGINEERS AND ASSOCIATES.
THE ADDRESS IS 70 42, UH, ALAMO DOWNS PARKWAY, SUITE 5 5 0, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 5 3.
UH, UM, THIS, UH, PROJECT IS, UH, OWNED BY THE, THE OWNER OF THE RESTAURANT ACROSS CALVERA STREET, WHICH IS JUST ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS SIDE.
UH, HIS INTENT IS TO SET UP SOME TYPE OF FOOD TRUCK, UH, UH, LIKE AN ACROP OF HIS RESTAURANT REPRESENTING HIS RESTAURANT WITH COVID.
I BELIEVE HIS INTENT IS, UH, IF, YOU KNOW, HE SEES, HE SEES THE WAY THINGS ARE HAPPENING, HE WANTS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF MOBILE TRUCK THAT HE CAN SEND OUT THROUGHOUT THE CITY, BUT HAVE ITS MAIN LOCATION THERE ACROSS THE STREET FROM HIS RESTAURANT.
UM, AND HE, BUT HE WANTS TO BE ABLE TO SELL BEER TO WHOEVER GOES THERE AND IS ENJOYING HIS FOOD.
UH, HE, UH, WE DID SPEAK WITH THE COMMISSIONER, UH, GREATHOUSE AND, UH, WE SPOKE TO THE OWNER AND HE SAID HE, HE WOULD BE WILLING TO PUT THE BUFFER AS REQUESTED BY, UH, MRS. GR HOUSE AND, UH, ALSO HAVE A LIMIT OF OPERATIONS TO CLOSING AT 10:00 PM SO THAT IT WOULD ALLOW FOR NEIGHBORS TO ENJOY THEIR EVENING, UH, AT A GOOD TIME.
UM, BUT THAT'S ESSENTIALLY IT.
IT CONSISTS OF A FOOD TRUCK, PARKING SPACES FOR THAT FOOD TRUCK.
UM, HOPING TO SELL BEER AND REPRESENT THE RESTAURANT ACROSS THE STREET.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. AGUILA, UH, STAFF.
IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, SIR.
UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT ONE CASE, UM, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
UM, I, I HAVE A A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, UM, FOR BOTH THE APPLICANT AND FOR STAFF.
STAFF, IF WE'RE JUST OPERATING ONE FOOD TRUCK ON THIS PROPERTY, IS THIS, WOULD THIS BE A PROPER ZONING? YES, MA'AM, IT IS.
WE HAD THE ONE, AND I THINK THAT WAS LIKE, IF IT WAS MULTIPLE FOOD TRUCKS THAT IT WOULDN'T HAVE WORKED.
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I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY CORRECT ON THIS.THREE OR MORE IS A FOOD TRUCK, CAR, UH, PARK COURT.
UM, AND THEN FOR THE APPLICANT, UM, ARE THERE, THERE, SO THE, THERE'S CURRENTLY A BUILDING LOCATED THERE, AND COULD YOU EXPLAIN YOUR PLANS FOR THAT BUILDING? YES.
UH, THE PLAN, IT'S A, IT'S A HOME, IT'S A, A RESIDENTIAL HOME.
UH, ONCE IT'S REMOVED, UH, THERE'LL BE ASPHALT PLACED IN, IN WHERE IT WAS, THERE'S A SMALL SHED TO THE REAR THAT IT'S POTENTIALLY GOING TO STAY.
BUT IN TALKING TO THE OWNER, UH, WE KIND OF RECOMMENDING THAT THAT BE REMOVED AS WELL.
SO HE WANTED TO USE IT AS PART OF IT, BUT IT'S, UH, BECAUSE OF THE BUFFER THAT WE'RE GOING TO, THAT WE WOULD BE PLACING IN.
AND, UM, THE RESTRICTIONS, UH, WE, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA GO AWAY.
SO IT'LL MAINLY JUST BE ASPHALT.
UM, AND OF COURSE WHEN THE FOOD TRUCK IS THERE, IT'LL BE SITTING THERE.
SO THERE'S NO PLANS TO DEVELOP ANY ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS? IT WOULD JUST BE ESSENTIALLY A PARKING PAD WITH POTENTIALLY, UH, A BUFFER ZONE AND OR THE SHED THAT REMAINS, BUT THERE'S NO ACTUAL OTHER BUILDING THAT'S GONNA BE DEVELOPED? YES.
COULD YOU TELL ME HOW LARGE THE TRACK IS? THE TRACK IS, HOW LARGE IS THE, WHAT'S THE SQUARE FOOT IS NUMBER EIGHT? NO, BUT THE ACTUAL LOT ITSELF, UH, JUST THE SECOND YOU THE, YEAH, IT'S, UH, 0.1, UH, BASICALLY 0.1 ACRE.
UM, I THINK THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS.
I'LL, UH, LET THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS ASK THEIR QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONERS, UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
UH, SO QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
SO I HEARD YOU SPEAK TO CLOSING AT 10:00 PM IS, IS THAT, WHAT ARE YOUR, WHAT ARE YOUR DAYS OF OPERATION? ARE YOU OPEN SEVEN DAYS, FIVE DAYS? YEAH, WE WERE, WE WERE CONSIDERING, UH, WELL, YEAH, IT WOULD BE, I THINK THE, WHEN SPEAKING TO MS. UH, MS. GREATHOUSE, UH, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT MAYBE FRIDAY AND SATURDAY WOULD BE OKAY.
I THINK THEY STAY OPEN TILL TILL 10:00 PM AND I BELIEVE SUNDAY IS BASICALLY CLOSED.
AND, AND WHAT ABOUT DURING THE WEEKDAYS THEN? IT WOULD ALL BE, UH, 10:00 PM.
UM, AND SO I'M STRUGGLING WITH THE, THE DEMOLITION OF WHAT LOOKS LIKE A, A HISTORICAL HOME, I GUESS LET'S JUST CALL IT THAT.
IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION FOR YOU TRYING TO FIND SOMEONE WHO MIGHT WANNA BUY AND RELOCATE THAT BUILDING VERSUS JUST DESTROYING A LITTLE PIECE OF HISTORY? WELL, I HAVEN'T, UH, SPOKEN THAT THAT DIDN'T COME UP SINCE WE, I'M NOT AWARE OF IT BEING IN A HISTORICAL DISTRICT, BUT WE HAVEN'T REALLY HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE OWNER AS FAR AS RELOCATING THE HOME.
THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT WE COULD HAVE WITH HIM.
BUT I, I, LIKE I SAID, IT DIDN'T COME UP SINCE WE REALLY AREN'T IN A HISTORICAL AREA.
UM, AND THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR AND BEHIND ARE, ARE THOSE O OCCUPIED BY RESIDENTS OR WHAT IS OCCURRING NEXT DOOR? IT'S A RESIDENTIAL, UH, HOME.
UM, THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
OKAY, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS OF STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? UH, COMMISSIONER HUE, THANK YOU CHAIR, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT, CAN YOU PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND IF YOU ARE GOING TO JUST HAVE A, UM, PAD ON THE PROPERTY AND THE FOOD TRUCK, HOW ARE YOU GONNA, ARE YOU PLANNING TO GET WATER OR POWER TO THE FOOD TRUCK? THERE'S EXISTING WATER AND SEWER THAT WAS FOR THE, THE HOUSE THAT EXISTS ON THE SITE, AND WE WOULD BE TAPPING INTO THOSE SERVICES.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WEEP.
UM, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE TO YOU, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, UH, FOR A
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MOTION AND DISCUSSION.UM, SO, UH, SO I DID, I DID HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT AND, AND EXPRESSED SOME CONCERNS, UM, WITH RESPECT TO THIS BUILDING.
AND IN THE MEANTIME, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS EXPRESSED CONCERNS AS WELL.
UM, SO I'LL BE MAKING A MOTION FOR DENIAL OF THIS CASE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M VERY WARY OF TAKING, UM, SOMEONE'S HOME AND PUTTING A BAR NEXT DOOR TO IT.
UM, GIVEN, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE, THE PRESSURES THAT WE FELT IN OTHER PARTS OF MY DISTRICT, NAMELY THE ST.
MARY'S STRIP, AND I UNDERSTAND THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY A BUNCH OF BARS, BUT HAVING ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION, UM, A C TWO USE, WHICH IF WE'LL REMEMBER, UM, WE'VE HAD CASES BEFORE THAT WERE FOR GAS STATIONS ON C TWO.
SO THAT'S KIND OF MY GO-TO IS I THINK LIKE, COULD A GAS STATION GO HERE? UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A VERY, VERY SMALL SETBACK OF THE TWO HOMES THAT BORDER THIS, BOTH THE HOMES TO THE NORTH AND TO THE EAST.
UM, SO I'M JUST VERY UNCOMFORTABLE PUTTING A C TWO DESPITE THE FACT THAT THIS IS ON A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.
I RECOGNIZE COBRA IS A, IS A BUSY ROAD, BUT THERE ARE STILL FAMILIES THAT LIVE HERE AND, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS A LITTLE MORE SETBACK AND MAYBE A LITTLE MORE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A BUFFER, I WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE.
BUT I REALLY THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE SURROUNDING LANDS AS WELL AS LOOKING AT HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE ISSUES OF THE FOLKS THAT LIVE IN THIS AREA.
I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE USE.
UM, AND I THINK THAT THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY IS ALSO CONCERNING TO ME BECAUSE IT IS VERY SMALL.
UM, SO FOR THOSE REASONS, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I'M MOTIONING FOR DENIAL.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR DENIAL ON THE FLOOR.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND MCDANIEL.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I ONLY HAVE ONE QUESTION.
UM, I, I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS THE CASE, BUT IN MANY OTHER PLACES, UM, FOOD TRUCKS ARE ALLOWED TO ACTUALLY PARK AND OPERATE OUT OF THE STREET, CITY STREET.
SO, UM, I, I'VE SEEN THAT OPERATION ALL OVER THE CITY WHERE THEY JUST GO AND PARK ON THE SIDE OF, UH, MILAN PARK OR TRAVIS PARK AND THE, THAT'S HOW THEY OPERATE.
SO I, I I, I TEND TO AGREE WITH, UH, DISTRICT ONE COMMISSIONER THAT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO PUT IT THERE ON THAT SIDE, BUT I THINK THEY CAN OPERATE A FOOT TRUCK ALMOST ANYWHERE IF THEY HAVE A HEALTH AND A CITY PERMIT, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
HI, IT'S KAT, JUST KIND OF WANNA CHIME IN HERE.
IT, THERE IS A PROGRAM THAT ALLOWS FOR THAT TO, FOR FOOD TRUCKS TO PARK ON THE STREET WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
BUT ONCE WE GET OUT OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA, THEN UH, THEY ARE CLASSIFIED AS FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS AND NEEDS TO BE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
UM, BECAUSE, UM, THE ALCOHOL IS SOLD OUTSIDE OF THAT FOOD SALE, IT NEEDS THAT CONDITIONAL USE IN ORDER TO BE A BAR TAVR.
UH, SO, UM, BUT YEAH, THIS IS, THIS IS OUTSIDE OF THAT AREA THAT'S ALLOWED TO HAVE, UH, FOOD TRUCKS ON THE STREET.
IT NEEDS TO BE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
'CAUSE I'VE SEEN HIM IN A LOT OF PARKS ALSO IN THE CITY OPERATING.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER REBUTTALS.
FURTHER DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS.
I'M GONNA COME TO YOU, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, IF THERE IS NO ONE ELSE.
UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL TO YOU.
SO I'M SUPPORTING THE MOTION FOR DENIAL WITH THE SAME CONCERNS AS EXPRESSED.
I I, WE JUST HAVE RESIDENTIAL USE ALREADY AROUND THIS PROPERTY WITH THE RESTAURANT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
I JUST QUESTION THAT NEED, AND I HATE TO SEE A HISTORICAL HOME JUST TORN DOWN TO PUT UP A PARKING LOT.
PARDON THE PLAN FROM THE SONG.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I I I JUST CAN'T GET IN SUPPORT OF THIS ONE.
SO THANK YOU AM THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
SEEING NONE, THERE IS A MOTION FOR DENIAL WITH A SECOND ROLL CALL.
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COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.UH, CHAIR MCDANIEL'S FINE TOO? NO.
[2. 21-4779 (Continued from 06/15/2021) ZONING CASE Z-2021-10700089 (Council District 7): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6" Residential Single-Family District to "PUD R-4" Planned Unit Development Residential Single-Family District on Lot P-88, NCB 15664, generally located in the 11000 block of Bandera Road. Staff recommends Approval. (Joyce Palmer, Sr. Planner, (210) 207-0315, Joyce.Palmer@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)]
UH, IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM PLEASE.ITEM NUMBER TWO IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO PUT R FOUR.
GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 11,000 BLOCK OF BANDERA ROAD.
THERE WERE 62 NOTICES MAILED THREE WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, 13 WERE RECEIVED OPPOSED.
BRA OAK, H O A IS OPPOSED STONEFIELD, H O A IS IN SUPPORT AND 25 OTHERS OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA ARE OPPOSED.
THE CURRENT R SIX IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY.
THE PROPOSED PUD R FOUR IS CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOT SIZE AND LOCATIONS OF THE PROPERTY.
IT ALSO REQUIRES A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT SITE PLAN WITH THE DEVELOPMENT LAYOUT AND A 20 FOOT PERIMETER SETBACK.
UM, IS THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PRESENT? YES.
IS THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PRESENT THE GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR.
MS. WEISLER, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND TELL US ABOUT THIS PROJECT, PLEASE.
YES, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.
EMILY WEISLER WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN 100 NORTHEAST LOOP FOUR 10, SUITE SIX 50.
UM, I'M HERE WITH JAMES GRIFFIN IN OUR OFFICE AS WELL AS OUR ENGINEER ANNIE RODRIGUEZ.
UH, WE ARE HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT FOR THE PROPOSED REZONING AT BANDERA AND TE.
UM, IF STAFF CAN GO AHEAD AND PULL UP OUR PRESENTATION AND START ON SLIDE TWO PLEASE.
SO THIS PROPERTY, UM, IS JUST AT THE BANDERA AND VILLE JUST NORTH OF THAT INTERSECTION.
AND THE PROPERTY'S ABOUT 13 ACRES, 13.1 ACRES IN THE 1100 BLOCKS OF BANDERA ROAD.
WE ARE ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ON TWO SIDE AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL AND THEN A CHURCH, SOME COMMERCIAL RETAIL, AND THEN THE CHURCH PROPERTY JUST, UH, BANDERA FROM US.
UM, IF WE CAN MOVE TO SLIDE THREE PLEASE.
THIS IS JUST A LARGER, BETTER AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
YOU CAN SEE IT'S COMPLETELY UNDEVELOPED FRONTING BANDERA.
THERE IS A QUICK TRIP IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT AS WELL AS TWO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND SOME COMMERCIAL.
THERE IS APARTMENTS ACROSS BANDERA.
UM, AND WE'RE JUST IN FROM THE 1604 INTERSECTION, SLIDE FOUR PLEASE.
THIS PROPERTY IS WITHIN NORTHWEST COMMUNITY PLAN.
IT IS DESIGNATED MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, UH, WHICH ALLOWS FOR A RANGE OF HOME TYPE, UH, SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED AND DETACHED DUPLEX, TRIPLEX, QUADPLEXES, UM, EVEN GARDEN STYLE APARTMENTS.
OUR PROPOSED REZONING, UM, THAT WE'LL GET INTO IN JUST A MINUTE, UM, IS AT THE MUCH LOWER END OF THE DENSITY ALLOWED WITHIN THE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
BUT OUR PROPOSED REQUEST IS CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH THAT EXISTING LAND USE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF OUR REQUEST.
THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED R SIX.
UH, WE ARE PROPOSING AN R FOUR PUD TO ALLOW FOR 82 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE ZONING MAP, WE ARE SURROUNDED BY R SIX BUT ALSO HAVE C THREE AS WELL AS A MULTI-FAMILY IN THE AREA.
WE ARE ADJACENT TO AN EXISTING C THREE, THAT'S THAT QUICK TRIP AND THERE'S SOME C TWO AROUND US.
UM, AND AS I MENTIONED R SIX, THIS R FOUR PUD WILL ALLOW FOR A TOTAL OF 82 HOMES.
UM, BUT IT WILL BE ALL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HERE, WHICH IS CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING USES.
SLIDE SIX SHOWS OUR ORIGINAL PUD PLAN, WHICH IS WHAT WE SUBMITTED WHEN WE FILED OUR APPLICATION WITH THE CITY.
OUR ORIGINAL REQUEST WAS FOR AN R THREE PUD, WHICH ALLOWED FOR THIS PUD PLAN A TOTAL OF 97 UNITS.
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IN TIME, WE WERE UP TO ABOUT 10 UNITS AN ACRE DENSITY, UM, WITH MUCH, MUCH SMALLER LOTS.AND I SHOW THIS BECAUSE, UM, WE HAVE HAD EXTENSIVE WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE COMMUNITY AROUND US.
UM, AND SEVERAL ITERATIONS HAVE COME FORWARD.
UH, SO WE'VE MADE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS FROM THIS ORIGINAL PLAN.
SLIDE SEVEN IS OUR SECOND MAJOR AMENDMENT.
UH, WE REDUCED THE DENSITY TO 92 LOTS FROM 97, UH, EXPANDED SOME OF THOSE LOT SIZES AROUND THE PERIMETER, UH, WHERE WE ADJOIN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.
WE ALSO AMENDED OUR REQUEST TO AN R FOUR POD, UH, THAT WAS IN DIRECT RESULT OF SOME FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT ASSERTING A DENSITY ON THIS SITE THAT IS COMPARABLE WITH THE EXISTING ZONING.
SO THE R SIX ZONING ALLOWS FOR SEVEN UNITS AN ACRE DENSITY, UM, AND THE R FOUR P DOES THE SAME.
SO WE AMENDED TO THE R FOUR P AND REDUCED OUR DENSITY TO GET DOWN TO THAT SAME DENSITY AS WOULD BE PERMITTED UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING.
SO SLIDE EIGHT IS OUR CURRENT PUD PLAN.
UM, WE ARE STILL AT THE R FOUR P REQUEST.
WE ARE JUST, UH, RIGHT AROUND SIX UNITS AN ACRE.
BUT FROM OUR ORIGINAL REQUEST OF 97 HOMES, WE ARE DOWN TO A TOTAL OF 82.
SO THAT WE HAVE REDUCED IN COOPERATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, A TOTAL OF 15 LOTS.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PURPLE, UM, THOSE ARE THE ADJOINING LOTS AND THOSE HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY ENLARGED TO ALIGN BETTER FOR A ONE-TO-ONE RATIO WITH THE ADJACENT RESIDENCE.
SO WE HAVE RESIDENTS ON TWO SIDES ON THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY AS WELL AS THE WESTERN BOUNDARY.
UM, AND SO THESE LARGER LOTS ARE MUCH MORE COMPARABLE WITH THIS EXISTING LOTS AND ALLOW FOR A, AN ALMOST ONE-TO-ONE RATIO.
YOU CAN SEE ON THIS PET PLAN THAT WE'VE ALSO COMMITTED TO A 30 FOOT BUFFER, UM, WHICH WOULD NOT BE PROVIDED IF DEVELOPED AS CURRENTLY ZONED.
UH, THAT 30 FOOT BUFFER WILL REMAIN NATURAL, FULLY PRESERVED, UM, TO HELP WITH PRIVACY AND CONTINUED SEPARATION FROM THE EXISTING RESIDENCES.
UM, AS WELL AS THESE LARGER LOTS WILL ALSO HAVE MUCH DEEPER BACKYARDS.
SO THE ADJACENT RESIDENCES WILL STILL FEEL SIGNIFICANTLY SEPARATED AND BUFFERED, UM, BETWEEN THOSE LOTS AND THE BUFFER THAT WE'RE PROVIDING FROM THE ADJACENT FROM THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
SO THIS IS A TOTAL OF 82 LOTS.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE OUR DRAINAGE PATH.
THIS PLAN ALSO INCLUDES A DEDICATED PARK SPACE, UM, IN THE TOP CORNER.
SO WE ALSO HAVE ADDITIONAL PARK SPACE OPEN SPACE DEDICATED HERE, WHICH GOES A LONG WAY IN CONTINUING OUR TREE PRESERVATION EFFORTS ON THIS PROPERTY, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WAS PRIMARILY VERY IMPORTANT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITIES.
UH, SLIDE NINE BRIEFLY REAL QUICK PLEASE.
UM, THESE ARE JUST EXAMPLE RENDERINGS OF SOME QUALITY OPTIONS FOR THESE HOME TYPES.
UM, JUST TO GIVE AN IDEA OF VARIETY STYLE, QUALITY, UH, FOR THE PROJECTED DEVELOPMENT.
THIS ALSO SHOWS THE PROPOSED GATING AT THE FRONT OF THIS COMMUNITY.
THIS R FOUR P WILL BE A GATED COMMUNITY.
SO THIS JUST SHOWS YOU A NICE, BEAUTIFUL BROAD IRON STONE GATE, UM, AT THE FRONT ENTRANCE TO THIS COMMUNITY.
THIS IS JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPER.
THEY'RE BASED HERE IN SAN ANTONIO ROSE HAVEN HOMES.
UM, THEY HAVE A REALLY STRONG REPUTATION FOR QUALITY SUSTAINABLE PRODUCTS, REALLY GREAT VALUE.
THIS WILL BE A FULLY MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THEY DO HAVE BUILT AND IN PROGRESS COMMUNITIES BOTH IN SAN ANTONIO AS WELL AS NEW BRAUNFELS.
UH, WE ARE IN A UNIQUE SITUATION IN THAT WE ADJOIN TWO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
WE'RE ON OAKS AND TO OUR WEST STONEFIELD.
OUR OUTREACH BEGAN TO THESE COMMUNITIES IN EARLY APRIL WITH OUR FIRST FORMAL MEETINGS TO EACH OF THEM IN THE FIRST WEEK OF MAY.
SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THESE COMMUNITIES FOR MONTHS NOW.
UM, AND IT, WE'VE NEEDED EVERY MINUTE OF THAT.
UH, STONEFIELD ESTATES IS INFORMAL SUPPORT.
UM, WE HAVE WORKED SIGNIFICANTLY HARD, UM, TO TALK WITH THESE COMMUNITIES, GET THE INFORMATION OUT THERE.
WE'VE HAD VERY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES WITH EACH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UM, IN THE WAY THAT THEY OPERATE AND THE WAY THEY WISH TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEIR RESIDENTS.
UH, BUT WE HAVE WORKED VERY HARD, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY RESIDENT, UM, AND BOTH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS HAVE ALL THE CURRENT INFORMATION.
ALL OF THE OPPOSITION ON RECORD AT THIS POINT IS STILL BASED ON OUR SECOND ITERATION OF THIS PLAN.
UH, WE HAVE SHOWN BOTH NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, THE MOST CURRENT PLAN WITH THE ADDITIONAL REDUCTION OF DENSITY THAT ADDED PARK SPACE.
UM, AND THAT REALLY WAS A BIG TURNING POINT FOR STONEFIELD SPECIFICALLY IN, IN THEIR SUPPORT, UH, THAT WE HAVE CONTINUED TO WORK ON THIS PLAN AND THIS PROJECT,
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UH, WITH THIS COMMUNITY.SO, UM, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT, UM, FROM INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS AND EXPECT MORE TO CONTINUE TO COME IN.
UH, WE ARE ALSO GONNA BE WORKING WITH THE COUNCIL OFFICE ON A COMMUNITY OPEN HOUSE STYLE MEETING JUST SO THAT ANYONE IN ANY NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, AROUND US WANTS TO COME IN AND TALK.
WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT.
UH, WE PUT THIS PLAN TOGETHER.
UH, THERE IS SOME INTEREST IN THIS PROPERTY BEING DEVELOPED AS CURRENTLY ZONED.
WE WENT THROUGH EXTENSIVELY ALL OF THE OPPOSITION THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CITY AND UH, A LOT OF IT IS ABOUT NOT WANTING ANYTHING IN THIS PROPERTY.
UM, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY IS JUST NOT THE REALITY THAT WE'RE FACED WITH HERE ON THIS SITE.
UH, THERE IS INTEREST DEVELOPMENT AS ZONED.
SO WE PULLED THIS PLAN TOGETHER, WHICH SHOWS BASED ON OUR ENGINEERING AND THE CODE, WHAT THAT DEVELOPMENT WILL LOOK LIKE.
UM, IT IS 20 UNITS LESS THAN WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING, BUT A A BIG ISSUE IS THAT IT DOES NOT PROVIDE ANY SORT OF BUFFERING, ANY SORT OF EXTRA OPEN SPACE, GREEN SPACE.
UM, THIS IS JUST VERY CUT AND DRY RIGHT UP AGAINST THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS.
UM, AND THEY ARE NOT GUARANTEED ANY SORT OF ONE-TO-ONE RATIO BEHIND THEM.
SO, UH, THIS WAS USED IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COMMUNITIES, UM, JUST SO THEY COULD UNDERSTAND WHAT THESE TWO DEVELOPMENTS LOOK LIKE SIDE BY SIDE AND HAVE THE OPTION TO KIND OF MORE OR LESS CHOOSE WHICH DIRECTION THEY WANTED TO GO WITH AT STONEFIELD.
DEFINITELY WILL, DEFINITELY WAS, UM, THIS IS PART OF THEIR, THEIR VOTE IN SUPPORT AND THAT THEY FEEL THE PROPOSED REZONING IS A MUCH BETTER FIT, MUCH MORE COGNIZANT, UM, COMPROMISE WITH THE COMMUNITY GIVES THEM A LOT MORE PRIVACY AND BUFFERING THAN, THAN A REGULAR DEVELOPMENT UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING WOULD GIVE.
SO WE ARE PROPOSING AN R FOUR PUD WITH 82 TOTAL LOTS.
YOU CAN SEE THE LOT BREAKOUT, YELLOW VERSUS PURPLE AND DIFFERENT LOT SIZES, WHICH ADDS A NICE VARIETY TO THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, BUT ALSO SIGNIFICANT BUFFERING AND PRESERVATION OF NATURAL SPACE, GREEN SPACE TREES AND THAT DEDICATED PARK AREA.
UH, WE ARE ALSO ABLE TO INCORPORATE SOME OVERFLOW PARKING ON THE INTERNAL STREET.
SO THIS SUBDIVISION HERE, WHICH, UM, SERVES THE SUBDIVISION ITSELF, BUT, UM, A NICE ADDED BENEFIT.
UM, THIS WILL BE A GATED PROJECT.
UM, AND AS I MENTIONED, THIS WILL BE HIGH QUALITY SINGLE FAMILY MARKET RATE, MULTI, UH, RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT AND AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, STAFF, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, SIR.
WE HAVE SIX VOICEMAILS TO PLAY FOR YOU.
ANITA M RAMEZ 9 1 1 4 SHADE TREE CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 2 1 1 0 7 0 0 0 8 9.
I OPPOSE THE REZONING REQUEST FOR THE 11,000 BLOCK OF BANDERA.
IT WILL AFFECT ME AND MY NEIGHBORS IN TERMS OF HEAVIER TRAFFIC.
HI, UH, MY NAME IS FRED GARNER.
ADDRESS IS 8 9 3 5 RACHELS BRANCH.
I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO A ZONING REQUEST Z 2 0 2 1 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 0 8 9.
UH, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE, UH, INCREASED DENSITY OF THE HOUSES IN THIS PROPOSED PROJECT.
THE INCREASED TRAFFIC ON BANDERA AND THE INCREASED NOISE DUE THE LOSS TO VEGETATION.
SO I'M REQUESTING THAT YOU REJECT THIS ZONING REQUEST.
OH, MY PHONE NUMBER (210) 347-8514.
THIS IS LIZ FRANKLIN, 2 1 0 3 2 5 9 1 9 3.
AND I, UH, OWN PROPERTY AND LIVE AT FIVE 15 HAY STREET.
AND THIS IS IN REGARDS TO CASE NUMBER 0 5 8 OR 5 0 7 HAY STREET.
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REQUEST THAT THE COMMISSION HEAR MY RECORD.MY ADDRESS IS 9 7 0 7 BROWN RUN, UH, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 32 5 4.
THE LAST THREE DIGITS OF THE CASE NUMBER IS 0 8 9.
I'M CALLING TO REGARDS, UH, TO THE, THE REZONING REQUEST FOR THE 1100 BLOCK OF PANERA ROAD.
UM, THAT WOODED AREA, THIS WHOLE AREA IS ALREADY VERY CONGESTED.
THERE'S A LOT OF SAFETY ISSUES.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS ON, ON, UH, TESLA, RIGHT BY THE WHOLE BROWN OAK AND, UH, BARN HERE, BROWN STATION.
SO PEOPLE ARE REALLY SPEEDING AND OUT OBEYING THE SIGNS, UH, STOP SIGNS AND JUST, I MEAN, JUST CRAZY TRAFFIC.
UM, ALSO IN THAT AREA RIGHT THERE, PERU AND
SO WE HAVE THESE LARGE TRUCKS.
SO THE MORE TRAFFIC AND THE MORE HOMES YOU PUT IN THAT AREA, THE MORE CONGESTED IT'S GONNA BE AND IT'S GONNA CAUSE A LOT OF PROBLEMS TRAFFIC FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN HERE.
AND THAT PAID PROPERTY TAXES IN THIS AREA, WHETHER IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY OR NOT.
IT, IT'S NOT LARGE ENOUGH TO PUT, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE A DEVELOPMENT THERE.
IT'S ALSO GONNA AFFECT THE VALUE OF OUR HOME.
UM, SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GONNA END UP LEAVING THIS AREA BECAUSE OF THAT.
UM, SO I MEAN, IT, IT'S JUST A LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS.
THAT'S WHY A LOT OF PEOPLE BOUGHT HOMES HERE WAS BECAUSE OF THE WHOLE WOODED AREA.
IT LOOKS WOOD, THERE'S A NATURAL, UH, TREES AND, AND A NATURAL LOOK.
I I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S VERY SMART THING TO DO.
UM, SO I'M AGAINST THE BU THE, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING AND THE REZONING OF THAT WHOLE AREA TO HAVE CONSTRUCTION.
BILL MELVA, MELVA, MULISH 88 27 BLAKE O RUN CASE NUMBER Z 20 21 1 0 7 0 0 0 8 9.
YOU HAVE APPROVED THE REMOVAL OF ALL OF THESE TREES TO BUILD HOMES AND TO ADD AN EX EXCESSIVE NUMBER OF HOMES.
YOU ALLOWED THE BAIT HOUSES TO BE BUILT BESIDE AND IN BACK OF THE C V S, YOU ARE DOWNGRADING THE EXISTING HOMES DO NOT REZONE FOR THE 1100 BLOCK OF BANDERA ROAD.
SHAME ON ALL OF YOU IF YOU DO.
HELLO, THIS IS ROLAND FETIS AND I LIVE AT 89 23 RUSHING WINDS 7 8 2 5 4 IN THE BROWN OAKS AREA.
I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO CASE NUMBER Z 2 9 21 6 1 0 7 0 0 8 9.
I'M CALLING TO PROTEST THE AMOUNTS OF HOMES THAT ARE PLANNING TO BE BUILT THERE.
92 HOMES IS GOING TO BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE TRAFFIC ON BANDERA ROAD, SO THEY CAN ONLY TURN ONE DIRECTION.
I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO, UH, THE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.
AND WE ALREADY HAVE TROUBLE COMING OUT FIRE AREA ONTO TEZO AND BANDERA.
IT'S LIMITING OUR USE OF THE STREET AND SAFETY.
UH, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S ANIMALS, WILDLIFE, LIVING IN THAT AREA, BUT, UM, UH, THEY DO WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO TO SURVIVE, I FEEL FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON RACHEL BRANCH, WHICH IS THE BACK STREET TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AGAINST THAT AREA.
AND, UH, THEY'VE ENJOYED THE GREEN BUFFER FOR YEARS AND, UH, IT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO THEM WITH HAVING TWO STORY HOMES BUILT ON THE BACKSIDE OF THEIR FENCES.
UH, TWO STORY HOMES WITH ONLY,
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AND ESPECIALLY SINCE THESE ARE GOOD.MR. CHAIR, THAT'S ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENT WE HAVE.
I WAS CURIOUS AS TO LIZ FRANKLIN'S INTEREST IN THIS, UH, CASE, BUT, UH, SEEMS LIKE THAT WAS PLAYED BY MISTAKE.
ALRIGHT, MS. WEISLER, UH, ANY REBUTTAL? UH, THANK YOU CHAIR.
I JUST WANTED TO BRIEFLY TOUCH BASE, UM, ON A, ON A COUPLE OF THINGS.
WE, I DON'T KNOW IF THESE VOICEMAILS ARE, ARE NEW OR FROM PREVIOUS CASE.
WE'VE CONTINUED THIS ONE SEVERAL TIMES.
UM, AND LIKE I MENTIONED, MADE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS WITH THE COMMUNITY, CONTINUED TO OUTREACH, UM, FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, UM, AND RESULTED IN, IN STONEFIELDS FORMAL SUPPORT AND SOME ADDITIONAL MEMBERS, UH, OF THE COMMUNITY IN SUPPORT.
UM, ONE THING TO NOTE IS THAT THE PROPERTY DOES DROP ABOUT 50 FEET, UH, OVERALL.
UM, SO ALL OF THESE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES DRAIN INTO OUR PROPERTY.
SO THERE'S SIGNIFICANT DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL HAVE TO BE DONE.
UM, BUT THIS PROPERTY, AFTER THE 30 FOOT BUFFER, THERE WILL BE ABOUT THREE OR FOUR FEET OF GRADING.
UH, SO THE PROPOSED HOMES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING RESIDENTS WILL SIT EVEN LOWER THAN THEY WOULD NORMALLY.
UM, BUT THAT IS AFTER THAT MINIMUM 30 FOOT BUFFER AREA.
SO, UM, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT THIS BEING A, A GREEN SPACE OR A GREEN BELT OR A FOREST, A WOODED AREA.
UM, IT IS POSED FOR DEVELOPMENT, UH, REALLY ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, BUT WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN TO KEEP AS MUCH PRIVACY IN AS MUCH BUFFERING, AS MUCH NATURAL BASED, UM, HERE AS POSSIBLE.
UH, SO WE DO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT.
UM, OUR TEAM IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS.
UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT SEVEN CASE.
UM, COMMISSIONER SIPES GOES TO YOU.
UM, MS. WEISLER, I GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
UM, ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY A A VOICEMAIL WAS ON TRAFFIC, UM, ENTERING AND EXITING.
UM, AND, AND, UH, THE, YOU HAVE A SINGLE ENTRY OFF OF BANDERA ROAD.
ARE THERE WAYS THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ALLEVIATE BACKING UP ONTO BANDERA ROAD WHEN TURNING INTO THIS SUBDIVISION? SO WE ARE GOING TO MEET, UM, A COUPLE THINGS.
WE'RE GONNA MEET WITH TECH TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE GONNA REQUIRE, UM, AS FAR AS DE CELL LANE, UM, ON TO BANDERA.
UM, AND OUR ENGINEER HERE IS, HE CAN PROBABLY ANSWER THIS A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN I CAN.
UM, BUT YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT THERE IS, UM, SIGNIFICANT ROOM, UM, INTO THE DEVELOPMENT FOR QUEUING, UM, TO GET CARS OFF OF BANDERA AND INTO THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THERE'S ALSO ROOM FOR THEM TO TURN AROUND IF THEY ACCIDENTALLY TURN INTO THE WRONG SUBDIVISION.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE ONLY HAVE ONE POINT OF ACCESS.
UH, WE ARE NOT CONNECTED TO ANY OF THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, BUT UH, WE DO HAVE, WE'LL BE WORKING WITH TEXDOT ON THAT.
I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF EXTENSIVE STUDY GOING ON SPECIFICALLY AROUND BANDERA ROAD.
UH, SO WE'LL BE COORDINATING WITH TDOT ON THAT, BUT WE'VE ALSO ACCOUNTED FOR SOME ROOM TO HELP GET CARS INTO THE SITE WITHOUT THEM QUEUING UP ON BANDERA AS WELL.
AND THAT GATE, UM, SORRY, JUST ONE REAL QUICK.
IT'S ABOUT 150 FEET DEEP, SO THAT'S A, A PRETTY GOOD ROOM TO GET THOSE CARS IN AND OFF OF BANDERA INTO THE SUBDIVISION WITHOUT BACKING THINGS UP ON A GENERALLY CONGESTED ROAD ALREADY.
UM, ALSO THERE THE, THERE IS, UM, OBVIOUSLY A CONCERN OVER THE LOSS OF VEGETATION AND UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WILL BE GRADING THAT'S REQUIRED.
UM, THE BUFFER, UH, THAT YOU SPEAK OF IN THE PARK, AND THEN THERE'S THERE, I NOTICED THAT THE, I GUESS IT'D BE AT THE NORTH, THE NORTHEASTERN PART OF THE SITE.
UM, IS THAT INTENDED TO REMAIN NATURAL OR IS IT TO BE REGRADED AND THEN BALLER TREES PLANTED? NO, SO YOU ARE CORRECT.
IT IS INTENDED TO REMAIN NATURAL.
UM, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED AT LENGTH WITH THE, THE ADJOINING COMMUNITIES.
UM, THAT OPEN GREEN SPACE THAT YOU KIND OF SEE DELIGHTFULLY LABELED IN GREEN, UM, ON THE PLAN, THOSE ARE ALL INTENDED TO STAY FULLY NATURAL.
THAT GRADING THAT WILL HAPPEN ON THE PROPERTY WILL HAPPEN AFTER THAT 30 FOOT MINIMUM BUFFER.
UH, SO THAT IS STAYING NATURAL AS WELL AS THE OTHER SPOTS THAT YOU MENTIONED.
AND, UM, THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE AT THIS TIME, SO
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I'LL SEE IF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANYTHING.COMMISSIONER SIPES, UH, I SEE COMMISSIONER ROME.
ANY QUESTIONS OR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AND THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER ROME? YES, THANK YOU.
UM, EMILY, I JUST WANTED TO, TO FOLLOW UP WHERE YOU LEFT OFF.
I DIDN'T, I WASN'T SURE IF YOU WERE RESPONDING WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT JUST LEAVING IT NATURAL.
WAS THAT JUST ABOUT THE OPEN AREA ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OR ALSO ABOUT THE PARK ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.
SO LIKE WHY ARE YOU CALLING IT A PARK IF YOU'RE JUST LEAVING IT OPEN? I MEAN, JUST LEAVING THE VEGETATION THERE, THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE.
SO, UH, SPECIFIC TO THE PARK SPACE, UM, AND OUR ENGINEER HERE AND HE CAN CHIME IN AT ANY POINT IN TIME.
HI, THIS IS ANDY RODRIGUEZ WITH C D SS MURRAY.
I WAS GONNA ADD THAT THE, THE PARK WILL REMAIN NATURAL TO THE WEST.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BACKING UP TO THOSE HOMES, BUT EVENTUALLY WE WILL HAVE TO GRATE TO MATCH, YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN CONSTRUCT OUR STREET.
SO I WOULD SAY ABOUT 50% OF THAT PARK WOULD, WILL REMAIN NATURAL.
SO IT'S NOT REALLY LIKE A PARK THAT PEOPLE COULD GO INTO, EVEN IF THEY LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT OUTSIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY CERTAINLY CAN'T ACCESS IT.
SO IT'S IT'S JUST GONNA BE AN UNDEVELOPED AREA, CORRECT? WELL, IT'S GONNA BE A PRIVATE PARK FOR THE 82 RESIDENTS PROBABLY WITH A PLAYGROUND.
UM, OKAY THEN MY OTHER QUESTION IS IF, IF PEOPLE DO NEED TO GO NORTH WHEN THEY'RE COMING OUT OF HERE, UM, WHAT'S THEIR MOST LIKELY ROUTE TO, TO GET BACK GOING NORTH ON BANDERA ROAD? IF THERE'S AN OPENING OF THE ISLANDS UP OUT THERE SO THEY CAN JUST CROSS OVER AND THEN GO LEFT? SO THE, THE ACCESS POINT, UM, AND IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE LIKE IN THE PUT PLAN EXHIBIT, BUT THE ACCESS POINT IS ALIGNED WITH THE BREAK IN THE MEDIAN ON BANDERA.
SO THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO LEFT.
UM, WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS A GOOD MOVE, DEPENDING ON WHAT TIME OF THE DAY THAT YOU'RE TRAVELING ON BANDERA, I, I CAN'T POSSIBLY PREDICT, UM, THAT THEY CAN GO LEFT IF, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WOULD LIKE THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO LEFT TO GO NORTH, UM, AND OR RIGHT, UM, ON BANDERA AND, AND TURN AROUND OR GO ANOTHER WAY.
IT'S VERY SCARY, UM, TO HEAR THAT ANSWER.
UM, AND THEN JUST ONE LAST QUESTION FOR STAFF, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE HOW THIS WORKS.
WHEN WE WERE IN PERSON AND WE WOULD GET A CHANGE SITE PLAN, WE WOULD SEE COPIES OF IT AND IN OUR MATERIAL WE STILL HAVE THE OLD SITE PLAN.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE WILL BE VOTING ON THE NEW SITE PLAN, UH, SINCE THAT'S WHAT EMILY PRESENTED TO US.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S A NEW ONE.
ROMERO, WE HAVE SUBMITTED, I I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S UM, I MEAN STAFF JOYCE OR MAYBE KAT CAN EVEN, UH, COOPERATE THIS, BUT WE'VE SUBMITTED THE UPDATED PED PLAN, IT JUST DIDN'T GET POSTED WITH THE BACKUP MATERIAL.
SO WE HAVE OFFICIALLY AMENDED OUR REQUEST.
THAT PED PLAN, UM, THAT YOU GUYS SEE BEFORE YOU IS THE ONE THAT WE'VE FORMALLY AMENDED, UH, PRIOR TO THIS MEETING AS WELL, IF THAT'S HELPFUL.
YES, WE UPDATED SITE PLAN THAT WAS RECEIVED AFTER, UH, WE HAD POSTED WAS, UH, IS PRESENTED ON THE SCREEN.
SO THAT IS IN FACT THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU'LL BE VOTING ON.
COMMISSIONER O'NEAL, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, AND THEN COMMISSIONER WHEAT.
SO, UM, A QUESTION FOR STAFF, UM, WITH THIS PARTICULAR POD PLAN FOR THOSE LISTENING, CAN WE JUST REVISIT WHAT, ONCE THIS MADE, IF THIS IS APPROVED BY COUNSEL, WHAT CHANGES AT THAT POINT IN TIME COULD BE MADE WITHIN THE PLAN AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND THE LAYOUT? SO THERE ARE PROVISIONS FOR MINOR AND MAJOR AMENDMENTS FOR PUT, UM, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THEY ARE ALLOWED AS A MINOR AMENDMENT UP TO A 10% INCREASE IN UNIT.
ANYTHING ABOVE THAT IS A MAJOR AMENDMENT AND WOULD REQUIRE IT TO GO THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS.
AND WITHIN A PED, THE INFRASTRUCTURE, ET CETERA IS ALL MAINTAINED BY THOSE HOMEOWNERS, IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, WHAT THEY'LL HAVE TO DO IS GO THROUGH THE PLAT PROCESS.
AND SO THAT'S WHEN THIS, UM, WHAT WHAT YOU SEE IS SORT OF A CONCEPTUAL, UM, LAYOUT FOR INFRASTRUCTURE MM-HMM.
AND THEN AT THAT POINT IS WHEN THEY'LL, THEY'LL FINISH THAT LAYOUT AND THEN THAT'S WHAT IS, UH, PROCEEDS TO THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS.
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OKAY.UM, I, I THINK MY QUESTION GOES TO ONCE THAT IS ALL DONE AND THAT, UM, DEVELOPMENT COMES ONLINE, WHO MAINTAINS THE COST FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND KEEPING IT IN CONDITION THAT WOULD BE MAINTAINED BY THE PRIVATE, UH, OWNERS FOR THE SIDE.
AND UM, IS THERE, UH, A TREE PRESERVATION PLAN, UH, AND I'M SORRY I'M NOT USING THE RIGHT TERMINOLOGY, BUT A PLAN FILED YEARS AGO THAT PROTECTS A CERTAIN NUMBER OF TREES OR IS THE APPLICANT, UM, I GUESS GIVING EXTRA, UM, WORK ON THAT TO SAVE SOME OF THE HERITAGE TREES ON THAT SITE? YES.
SO THAT WAS COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
WE ARE NOT VESTED ON THIS PROPERTY, SO WE'LL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH CURRENT TREE ORDINANCE.
UH, WE WILL ALSO, UM, WE'RE UNDERWAY WITH THE TREE PRESERVATION PLAN, BUT WE'RE NOT COMPLETE WITH THAT PROCESS YET.
UH, BUT WE ARE NOT VESTED AND SO WE'LL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE MOST RECENT TREE RE ORDINANCE, WHICH I BELIEVE IS 2010.
THANK YOU FOR FILLING IN THE WORD THAT I COULD NOT REMEMBER AT THAT TIME.
UM, I, I GUESS, UM, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR NOW.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, COMMISSIONER WHEAT AND THANK YOU CHAIR.
ROMERO'S CONCERN FOR THE TRAFFIC COMING OUT OF CURATIVE, UH, PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
THE, UH, THE TRAFFIC COMING SOUTHBOUND ON BANDERA ROAD.
IT'S GOING, IT IS, IT'S PRETTY HECTIC.
SO FOR YOUR, UH, RESIDENTS COMING OUT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT TO CROSS THE SOUTHBOUND LANE TO GET ON THE LOW NORTHBOUND LANE, IT'S GONNA VERY BE VERY CHALLENGING AND I HOPE THAT TDOT WOULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
AND A QUESTION FOR YOU, EMILY, IS, UH, IN THE, UM, EXAMPLE ELEVATIONS THAT YOU SHOWED OF THESE HOMES, THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS LIKE A THREE STORY HOME.
ARE YOU PLANNING TO PUT THREE STORY HOMES IN THIS DEVELOPMENT? UM, WE ARE, ARE LIMITED BY HEIGHTS IN THE CODE.
WE DON'T GET ANY SORT OF EXTRA BONUS, UM, HERE, SO, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL FOLLOW THE CODE.
IT'S THE SAME FOR THE PUT AS IT IS FOR A REGULAR R SIX, UM, 35 FEET, TWO AND A HALF STORIES, UM, I BELIEVE IS THE LIMIT.
UH, STAFF FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ME IF I AM COMPLETELY WRONG, BUT, UM, THOSE WERE JUST EXAMPLES.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE DEFINITIVE RENDERINGS OF THIS PARTICULAR PARTICULAR PROJECT.
UH, THOSE ARE JUST EXAMPLES, UM, THAT WE'VE USED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST TO GIVE 'EM AN IDEA OF STYLE, VARIETY, QUALITY CONSTRUCTION, JUST AS A, A VISUAL BASELINE RENDERING.
BUT THOSE, UM, WE'RE RESTRICTED ON HEIGHT REGARDLESS IF THAT IS HELPFUL.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WHEAT.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONERS ANY FURTHER, UH, QUESTIONS? I'M SORRY, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? SEEING NONE, UH, MORE QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONER SIPES.
ALRIGHT, SO, UM, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL BROUGHT UP A INTERESTING POINT ABOUT MAJOR AND MINOR AMENDMENTS AND I WAS WONDERING, AND THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF, IS THERE A WAY IN THE POD SOMEHOW TO LOCK IN THE, THE, THE NUMBER OF LOTS THAT, THAT BACK UP TO THE EXISTING, UM, NEIGHBORHOODS? IN OTHER WORDS, ON ON THE, UM, ON THE WESTERN SIDE WE SEE 12 LOTS BACKING UP.
IS THERE A WAY TO LIMIT THAT, THAT AREA TO 12 LOTS SO THAT, SO THAT THOSE DON'T GET REVISED SO THAT THE LARGER LOTS THAT ARE SHOWN IN PURPLE DON'T GET CONVERTED TO THE, UM, YELLOW BEIGE LOTS, SMALLER LOTS.
SO UNFORTUNATELY WITH PUDS THERE ARE NO CONDITIONS THAT CAN BE TIED TO THE PROPERTY.
IF YOU WANT TO LIMIT THE DENSITY IN THE SITE PLAN THAT, UH, HAS TO BE APPROVED WOULD HAVE TO BE 10% LESS.
AND COMMISSIONER SIPES, WE ARE WILLING TO RESTRICT IN, IN WHATEVER WAY POSSIBLE.
UM, WE ARE, ARE FULLY COMMITTED TO THAT 82.
UH, WE'VE USED THIS PLAN EXTENSIVELY WITH THE COMMUNITY.
UM, SO THEY KNOW WHAT WE'RE OFFERING, WE'RE COMMITTED TO THIS PLAN.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO RESTRICT TO DENSITY OR, YOU KNOW, THESE LOT SIZES THIS PLAN, UM, IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE, UM, INCLUDING RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS WHICH WE HAVE OFFERED TO THOSE COMMUNITIES.
UM, I DON'T THINK THE DOOR'S COMPLETELY SHUT ON THAT.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE DOWN THAT PATH AS WELL.
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ALRIGHT.AND, AND I KNOW THE CITY DOES NOT ENFORCE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO, UM, CONTINUE THAT DISCUSSION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS AT LEAST.
THE ONLY OTHER, LET'S SEE, SO THE, THE OTHER CONCERN THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO ADDRESS IT SINCE IT'S A STATE HIGHWAY, IS THE, UH, UM, THE TURN NORTH, UM, FROM, FROM THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I HAVE A QUESTION.
I I, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE A WAY TO, TO ASK HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S NOT THE, UM, THE SOLUTION TO TURN NORTH IS JUST, JUST ALLOW THEM TO, UH, CROSS THREE LANES OF TRAFFIC.
UM, AND I WAS WONDERING IF STAFF COULD HELP ME WITH THAT OR SINCE IT'S A STATE ROAD, WE'RE KIND OF JUST BOUND BY WHAT THE STATE DECIDES.
SO FOR THE TRAFFIC, THE CITY AND THE STATE KIND OF WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE, UH, CREATED A TRAFFIC PATTERN THAT IS SAFE.
UM, AND SO, AND THAT MEETS CODE, SO THEY, UH, WE, WE RELY ON THEM AS THE EXPERTS IN THIS AND SO THEY'LL REVIEW THAT, UH, DURING THE, UH, NEXT PART OF THE LAND ENTITLEMENT PROCESS.
UM, WELL I THINK THAT'S IT FOR MY SECOND SET OF QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SIPES, COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR STAFF? LAST CALL? ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER SIPES TO YOU FOR A MOTION AND DISCUSSION.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, UM, THIS IS A, THIS IS AN INTERESTING, UH, PIECE OF PROPERTY.
UM, THIS HAS BEEN BEFORE US PREVIOUSLY, UH, FOR APARTMENTS AND WE HAD, UH, WE, WE, UH, DENIED THAT IF I'M CORRECT.
UM, AND WE HAVE SEEN, I I, AND I THINK WHAT A LOT OF THE CONCERN FROM THE NEIGHBORS ARE BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF, OF THEIR, OF, OF, UH, TEZO, TETZEL AS WE USED TO CALL IT, UM, WHERE A NEW SUBDIVISION CAME IN AND JUST COMPLETELY CLEAR CUT EVERYTHING.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S CAUSING A LOT OF THE, UM, CONCERN.
UM, I APPRECIATE THAT THE DEVELOPER AND THE APPLICANT HAVE, UM, COME UP WITH A, A PLAN OF, OF A, OF A MIX OF LARGER AND SMALLER LOTS.
UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT WHEN, WHEN WE LOOK AT ZONING OR WHAT I LOOK AT IS WHEN THERE'S, UH, A REQUEST, IT'S KIND OF A, OKAY, YOU WANT TO INCREASE DENSITY A LITTLE BIT, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE UP? YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S THE EXCHANGE, WHAT'S THE BENEFIT? UM, AND TO ME WHAT I SEE IS THAT, ALTHOUGH IT SOUNDS WEIRD, BUT IT WOULD APPEAR THAT WE WILL HAVE AN MORE PRESERVATION OF OPEN SPACE WITH THIS R FOUR PLAN VERSUS AN EXISTING R SIX PLAN.
WHAT COULD BE BUILT, EVEN THOUGH THE NUMBER OF HOUSES WILL INCREASE, UM, THE UH, 30 FOOT UNTOUCHED BUFFER WILL, WILL BE HUGE.
UH, AND I DID SOME ROUGH CALCULATIONS AND IF YOU TOOK THAT AND BASICALLY ADDED IT TO THOSE LOTS, THEY BECOME AROUND 5,200 SQUARE FEET, YOU KNOW, THE PURPLE LOT, YOU KNOW, PLUS, SO YOU'RE GETTING AWFULLY CLOSE TO AN R SIX AND, AND, AND WE'RE GETTING THE ADDITION OF AN OPEN PARK, OPEN AREA BETWEEN ROWS OF HOME.
UM, AND IT, TO ME THAT SEEMS LIKE A, A, A GOOD COMPROMISE.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THE, THE CONCERNS ON, ON TRAFFIC.
I, I GO DOWN THIS AREA EVERY SINGLE WEEK WHEN I VISIT MY PARENTS WHO STILL LIVE OFF OF BRAUN ROAD.
SO I'M, I'M, I'M REAL FAMILIAR WITH HOW TRAFFIC WORKS OVER HERE.
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THINK THAT THEY MAY DO WHAT THEY HAVE DONE, WHAT A DEVELOPER DID, UH, YEARS AGO DOWN BANDERA ROAD WHERE THEY MADE IT A TURN SOUTH ONLY, YOU COULD ONLY TURN SOUTH, YOU COULD NOT CROSS THE MEDIAN.UM, AND SO THEY MIGHT GO SOUTH TO TESLA AND DO A U-TURN.
UM, SO I, I UNDERSTAND THE, THE, THE CONCERNS OVER, OVER TRAFFIC, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 62 HOMES IN AN R SIX DEVELOPMENT AND 82 HOME AS SHOWN HERE IS GOING TO BE, UH, UH, THAT MUCH AS COMPARED TO WHAT HAD BEEN PROPOSED BEFORE OF APARTMENTS.
UM, SO I AM GOING TO STILL ENCOURAGE THE, UH, THE APPLICANT TO WORK WITH THE, THE COUNCIL OFFICE BETWEEN NOW AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND STILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, BUT I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER TWO.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SE I SECOND THAT MOTION CHAIRMAN MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER TWO BY COMMISSIONER S SIPES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BOTTLES.
UH, IT IS NOW OPEN FOR DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
UM, I ECHO COMMISSIONER SIPES COMMENTS.
HE SAID EVERYTHING THAT I WAS ABOUT TO EXPRESS.
WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY LISTENED TO THE COMMUNITY AND THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT DENSITY AND TRAFFIC, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE COMMUNITY OF THAT.
UH, HAVING HAD NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE APPLICANT, UH, THEY HAVE MADE ATTEMPTS TO GO BACK AND WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY ON SEVERAL ATTEMPTS.
I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF TRYING TO MATCH UP THOSE PROPERTIES ON A ONE-TO-ONE RATIO.
LOOKS LIKE THEY STILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF WORK TO DO ON THE RACHEL'S BRANCH SIDE, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO PLEASE WORK WITH THOSE RESIDENTS TO TRY TO EVEN THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, BANDERA ROAD IS A TRAFFIC NIGHTMARE.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT TIME OF DAY, WHICH WAY YOU'RE GOING.
UM, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT TXDOT AND I BELIEVE THE COMMUNITY OUT THERE IS STARTING TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT THE FUTURE MAY BRING FOR THAT.
IN THE MEANTIME, UH, THE RESIDENTS THAT PURCHASE INSIDE THAT FED, UM, WILL HAVE TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS ABOUT WHETHER THEY WANNA TRY TO CROSS THAT ROADWAY, UM, OR JUST GO DOWN SIMPLY TO THE NEXT INTERSECTION AND DO A LEGAL TURNAROUND.
I'M GONNA SUPPORT THIS MOTION BECAUSE I DEFINITELY WANT SOME OF THOSE HERITAGE TREES PRESERVED, AND I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THAT WILL HAPPEN IF, UH, A REGULAR DEVELOPER COMES IN FOR THE CURRENT, UH, ZONING AS IS.
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? UM, COMMISSIONER WHEAT.
UH, I THINK THIS IS THE BEST COMPROMISE THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE VARIOUS, UH, PROPOSALS FOR THIS PROPERTY.
AND YES, I DO AGREE THAT, UH, THERE MAY BE SOME TRAFFIC ISSUES AND, UH, BUT AGAIN, THIS BEING, BEING THE BEST COMPROMISE THAT I'VE SEEN, I'M GONNA BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
OTHER COMMISSIONER'S DISCUSSION AS CHAIR.
UM, YOU KNOW, I DO SHARE THE CONCERNS OF DR.
ROMERO REGARDING TURNING NORTH.
I HOPE THAT THEY WILL BETWEEN THE CITY, THE DEVELOPER AND THE STATE TO FIGURE OUT SOME SOLUTION FOR THAT.
BUT OF COURSE, UNDER THE EXISTING R SIX, THAT THAT'S A CONCERN HERE AS WELL.
UM, SO THAT, THAT IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
UH, GIVEN THE GREEN BELT, I'M SORRY, NOT THE GREEN BELT, THE 30 FOOT SETBACK, UM, ALONG WITH THE PARK AND THE SPACE BETWEEN THE INTERIOR LOCK, I ALSO WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
SO THANK YOU ALL UNLESS THERE'S ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
MOTION PASSES FOR ITEM TWO 10 TO ZERO.
AND MS. WEISLER AND GOOD LUCK AND CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE CITY.
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UM, STAFF IF WE COULD MOVE ON[4. 21-4780 (Continued from 06/15/2021) ZONING CASE Z-2021-10700114 (Council District 2): A request for a change in zoning from "RM-4 MLOD-3 MLR-2 AHOD" Residential Mixed Martindale Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District and "R-5 MLOD-3 MLR-2 AHOD" Residential Single Family Martindale Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District and "RM-4 AHOD" Residential Mixed Airport Hazard Overlay District and "R-5 AHOD" Residential Single Family Airport Hazard Overlay District to "MHP MLOD-3 MLR-2 AHOD" Manufactured Home Park Martindale Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District and "MHP AHOD" Manufactured Home Park Airport Hazard Overlay District on 2.9479 acres out of 12180, located at 4618 Webbles Street. Staff recommends Approval. (Michael Pepe, Senior Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)]
TO, UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE.ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM RMM FOUR AND R FIVE.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME TO M H P.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 46 18 WEIL STREET, THERE WERE 28 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR.
TWO RECEIVED OPPOSED, THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THERE WAS ONE INDIVIDUAL OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FEET OPPOSED.
AND THEN THERE WAS AN ANOTHER PETITION RECEIVED WITH 21 SIGNATURES OPPOSED THE EXISTING RMM FOUR IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY.
THE PROPOSED M H P WOULD ALSO BE APPROPRIATE ZONING AND WOULD ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING IN WALKABLE DISTANCE TO SCHOOLS AND RETAIL STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
IS THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PRESENT? UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR.
THIS IS EMILY WEISLER WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN.
CAN YOU GUYS STILL HEAR ME? YES.
THANK YOU MS. WEISLER, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND AGAIN, INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND, UH, GIVE YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US ABOUT THE PROJECT.
EMILY WEISLER WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN 100 NORTHEAST LOOP FOUR 10, SUITE SIX 50 HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
UH, AS STAFF MENTIONED, WE ARE PROPOSING A REZONING ON BLE STREET.
UM, IF STAFF, WE COULD OPEN THE PRESENTATION AND START WITH SLIDE TWO PLEASE.
SO THIS PROJECT IS JUST UNDER, THE PROPERTY IS JUST UNDER THREE ACRES, 2.95, UM, ADDRESSED ON BLES DRIVE, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT BLES OFF OF WALHAM KIND OF DEAD END.
THERE IS A DRAINAGE DITCH TO OUR EAST, UM, AND AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY TO OUR WEST, WHILE THE ELEMENTARY IS JUST ABOVE US.
SO WE'RE KIND OF ADJACENT TO THE SCHOOL, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
UM, AND THEN REALLY RIGHT HERE ON THE CUSP OF THIS LARGE INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSING, SHIPPING, RECEIVING, MANUFACTURING KIND OF CORRIDOR ALONG, UH, 35, 4 10, WHICHEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO CALL IT.
UH, JUST SOUTH OF WALHAM ROAD.
UM, IF WE COULD GO TO SLIDE THREE PLEASE.
THIS AERIAL MAP JUST SHOWS A LITTLE BIT BETTER VIEW OF KIND OF THOSE SURROUND SURROUNDING USES.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, WE WERE SOUTH OF WALHAM.
UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL USES RIGHT NEXT TO US, UM, ONLY SEPARATED BY A DRAINAGE DITCH, UM, AND THEN ADJACENT TO SOME SINGLE FAMILY AS WELL AS THE WALHAM ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
UM, OUR PROPOSED REZONING, UM, IS FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
THESE ARE LEA SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON HERE.
SO CONSISTENT WITH THAT EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, BUT ALSO A NICE BUFFER KIND OF ON THE EDGE OF THIS COMMUNITY.
BEFORE WE GET INTO THOSE MAJOR SURROUNDING INDUSTRIAL USES, LIKE FOR PLEASE.
SO THE PROPERTY IS PRIMARILY ZONED RMM FOUR NOW, UM, IT'S RIGHT ABOUT TWO ACRES OF RMM FOUR, AND THEN JUST UNDER AN ACRE OF R FIVE ARE THE EXISTING ZONING.
SO WE ARE PROPOSING A REQUEST TO REZONE TO M H P TO ALLOW FOR PREFABRICATED MANUFACTURED HOMES SUBDIVISION.
UM, THE RMM FOUR IS THE PREDOMINANT ZONING DISTRICT, UH, WHICH IS THE REGULATION EQUIVALENT OF THE M H P.
SO WE ARE TIED TO RMM FOUR STANDARDS UNDER THE PROPOSED REZONING.
SO, UH, THEORETICALLY FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE, IT IS MOSTLY RMM FOUR AND R FIVE TO ALL RMM FOUR STANDARDS.
UM, ON THE PROPOSED, UH, PROJECT SITE, UM, THE SINGULAR DIFFERENCE IS THE ABILITY TO HAVE PREFABRICATED HOMES RATHER THAN BUILDING ON SITE, UH, WHICH SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCES OVERALL COST OF THOSE HOMES, ADDING A NICE AFFORDABILITY FACTOR AS WELL AS LIMITS CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE.
UH, SO IMPACT ON THOSE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS.
THE PROPERTY'S NOT WITHIN AN EXISTING LAND USE PLAN, BUT WE DID GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, UM, AND SURROUNDING USES TO, TO FIND THAT CONSISTENCY AND COMPATIBILITY.
UM, WE ARE ADJACENT TO THE SAN ANTONIO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT VICINITY PLAN.
UM, THIS REQUEST, THE PROPOSED REZONING, UM, WOULD BE THE, UH, LAND USE EQUIVALENT OF A MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS AN APPROPRIATE CONSISTENT USE BETWEEN THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY, THE EXISTING LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND WHAT WOULD BE INDUSTRIAL HIGH INTENSITY, UH, USES ALONG THE 4 10 35 CORRIDORS.
SO, UH, WE THINK OF THIS PIECE AS KIND OF A MIDDLE IN BETWEEN, BETWEEN THOSE EXISTING USES ON BOTH SIDES, AND I SUFFER IN BETWEEN, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT
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WE ARE PROPOSING, UH, ON THIS SITE.SO I UNDERSTAND THAT M H P IS NOT AN EXCEPTIONALLY COMMON REQUEST, UH, FOR REZONING, BUT WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE GOVERNING CODE PROVISIONS OF THE M H P DISTRICT.
IT IS A VERY SMALL SECTION OF THE CODE.
UM, BUT SECTIONS B AND D ARE, ARE WHY I KEEP REFERRING TO R M FOUR STANDARDS.
SO THE PERMITTED USES WITHIN M H P ARE THOSE WITHIN THE RMM FOUR DISTRICT DISTRICT AND ALSO ALLOWS FOR MANUFACTURERS HOMES.
AND THEN WE ARE ALSO REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH THE DIMENSIONAL REGULATIONS OF THE RMM FOUR DISTRICT.
SO THOSE RMM FOUR STANDARDS REALLY CARRY THROUGH ON THIS REQUEST.
UM, WE, WITH THE SINGULAR DIFFERENCE OF ALLOWING PREFABRICATED MANUFACTURED HOMES, NOT MOBILE HOMES, NOT TRAILERS, THESE ARE PREFAB MANUFACTURED HOMES, UM, ON THE SITE BEING THE ONLY DIFFERENCE, UH, OF USE HERE.
SO, UM, SECTION E OF THIS PART OF THE CODE DOES ALSO TIE INTO, UH, THIS BEING A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT REQUEST, UH, THAN AN M H C.
UH, THE M H C IS THE CONVENTIONAL SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENT, BUT AFTER DISCUSSING WITH STAFF, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE M H P UM, BEING PARK ALLOWS THE OPTION TO PURSUE A PARK PLAN, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A PLANNING COMMISSION OVERSIGHT, UM, IN THEIR SPECIFIC REVIEW.
BUT IF WE CHOOSE WHICH WE ARE CHOOSING NOT TO PURSUE THE PARK PLAN DESIGNATION, UH, PARK PLAN FUNCTION OF THIS SITE, IT CONVERTS BACK TO THE CONVENTIONAL SUBDIVISION.
SO M H P OR M H C, WE ARE STILL DOING A CONVENTIONAL SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION WITH 4,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT MINIMUMS ALL USES RELATED TO RMM FOUR AS PERMITTED BY CODE.
UH, SLIDE SEVEN JUST SHOWS THOSE RMM FOUR STANDARDS.
UH, JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT THE CODE SPECIFICALLY REQUIRES THAT THESE MANUFACTURED HOMES BE HUD CODE MANUFACTURED HOMES.
SO THIS IS JUST A QUICK SNIPPET FROM THE HUD CODE SITE, WHICH SHOWS THE DIFFERENCE, I THINK, IN REALITY OF WHAT PEOPLE THINK OF WHEN THEY THINK OF MANUFACTURED HOMES.
UM, THESE ARE NOT MOBILE HOMES, THESE ARE NOT TRAILERS, THESE ARE NOT ANYTHING OF THE SORT.
THESE ARE HUD CODE MANUFACTURED HOMES, WHICH ARE AFFIXED TO A PERMANENT FOUNDATION.
UM, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT WE ARE NOT BUILDING THESE HOMES ON SITE.
WE ARE BRINGING THE HOMES INTO THE PROPERTY.
UH, REAL QUICKLY, SLIDE NINE, JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW.
UM, AS PART OF THE R M FOUR REGULATIONS, WE ARE LIMITED TO 11 UNITS AN ACRE.
UH, WE ARE ALSO LIMITED TO 4,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.
SO REGARDLESS OF HOME SIZE, UH, WE ARE LIMITED TO THE DENSITY ON SITE.
SO WE COULD HAVE, UH, A SMALLER QUOTE UNQUOTE, MAYBE TINY HOME ON ON A LOT, BUT IT DOES NOT MATTER BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE 4,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.
SO WE ARE LIMITED TO A VERY MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF 32 ON THIS SITE.
UM, BASED ON THE CODIFIED DENSITY OF THIS PROJECT, THESE ARE PREFAB SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, ONE HOME PER LOT, UM, WITH THOSE PERMITTED USES AND DIMENSIONAL REGULATIONS OF THE PRIMARY EXISTING ZONING ON THIS SITE OF RMM FOUR.
UH, AND SLIDE 10, JUST RECAP ON THAT AERIAL IMAGE TO SHOW YOU KIND OF WHAT WE'RE SURROUNDED BY.
UM, WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK ON OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH TO HELP EDUCATE.
WE HAVE SOME OPPOSITION THAT IS KIND OF ESSENTIALLY FOUNDED ON THIS POSSIBLY BEING A, A TRAILER PARK OR A MOBILE HOME PARK.
UM, AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE STILL WORKING VERY HARD WITH THE COMMUNITY TO, TO EDUCATE THEM ON WHAT WE DO, UM, HERE ON THIS SITE.
AND WE WILL CONTINUE THAT OUTREACH.
UH, THERE IS NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, BUT WE ARE CONTINUING OUR EFFORTS, UM, IN COORDINATION WITH DISTRICT TWO ON MAKING SURE THAT WE GET IN FRONT OF THOSE PEOPLE AND THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING AND WHAT WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO HERE, WHICH I THINK IS THE, THE BASIS OF THE CONCERN THAT WE HAVE HEARD PREVIOUSLY BEFORE THIS ITEM WAS CONTINUED.
SO WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED REZONING TODAY.
MYSELF AND JAMES GRIFFIN ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU MS. WEISLER, UH, STAFF, IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DO HAVE A LIVE CALLER AND IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE, UH, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
IF YOU'RE MUTED, PLEASE UH, PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO START WITH YOUR NAME.
AND ACTUALLY I HAVE A QUICK PROCEDURAL QUESTION AND THE GENTLEMAN WHEN HE CALLED ME SAID I COULD ASK A PROCEDURAL QUESTION BEFORE MY TWO MINUTES STARTED, SO I'D LIKE TO ASK THAT PROCEDURAL QUESTION.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE RECEIVED THE PETITION FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS, I BELIEVE, WHAT 18 SIGNATURES ON IT.
DID YOU RECEIVE THAT PETITION IN OPPOSITION? YES, WE DID.
AND WE NOTED THAT AT THE BEGINNING DURING THE PRESENTATION AND WE ALSO FORWARDED IT TO
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THE, UH, COMMISSIONERS SO THEY, THEY SEEN IT AS WELL.AND THEN THE OTHER PROCEDURAL QUESTION I HAVE WAS THAT THERE WERE NO NEW NOTICES THAT WERE MAILED OUT TO THE, UH, LOCAL HOMEOWNERS AND NO YELLOW SIGNS WERE POSTED BEFORE THIS HEARING, UM, WHEN THE OTHER SIGNS WERE REMOVED.
SO I JUST WANTED TO HAVE THAT ON THE RECORD AS WELL.
UM, SO FOR CONTINUANCES, UH, WE DON'T, WE DO NOT SEND NEW NOTICE OUT FOR CONTINUANCE HEARING.
UH, WE DID POST A SIGN AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS IF SOMEBODY REMOVED THOSE SIGNS.
IT WAS NOT STAFFED, BUT, UM, THE SIGN WAS POSTED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS.
I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT ON RECORD THAT THESE NOTICES, UM, THAT THERE'S WELL, A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS HEARING BEING CONTINUED.
IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF, GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND, UH, MAKE YOUR COMMENT AND THEN REMAIN ON THE LINE SO THAT IF ANY COMMISSIONERS MAY ASK QUESTIONS.
MY NAME IS EMILY LEE AND I LEAVE AT 3 0 6 NEWPORT DRIVE THE HOME DIRECTLY NEXT TO THIS PROPERTY.
AND I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IN THE APPLICATION FOR THE CHANGE OF ZONING, IT IS DEFICIENT AND INCONSISTENT.
ON PAGE FIVE OF THREE, THE REQUESTED ZONING IS M H P.
HOWEVER, IF YOU GO TO PAGE SEVEN OF 13, THE STATEMENT OF PURPOSE TO DISCUSSES CHANGE FROM THE RMM FOUR R FIVE TO AN M H P AND NOT AN M H P.
THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE TO M H P AND ESPECIALLY M H P IS NOT MATERIAL OR SIMILAR TO THE EXISTING ZONING.
M H P IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS IT IS, AND M H P DOES NOT HAVE TO FOLLOW THE SAME CRITERIA AS THESE CONVENTIONAL HOMES TO MANUFACTURED HOMES.
PAGE 12 OF 13, THE GO BACK TO M H C RESIDENTIAL, AGAIN, THEY WANNA PUT IN 32 UNITS AND THEY DID NOT BOTHER TO DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT? BECAUSE IF YOU GO TO THE AGENDA MEMORANDUM PREPARED BY THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ON PAGE TWO, THEY TALK ABOUT THE THOROUGHFARE WILL BE ON BLES.
HOWEVER, THAT ATTORNEY REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPER AND THE CONTRACTOR THAT HAS COME OUT HERE ON THE LOT HAS BOTH CONFIRMED THAT THEY DECIDED THEY WANT TO OPEN UP CERNA PARK.
THEY WANNA OPEN UP NEWPORT DRIVE, WHICH IS ALSO A DEAD END DRIVE, AND THEY WANNA COMPLETELY SUBMERGE THIS MANUFACTURED HOME PARK INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE ARE PROPOSED CHANGES THAT WILL HAPPEN.
YOU WILL HAVE IN NEW THOROUGHFARE THROUGH NEWPORT AND THROUGH CERNA PARK.
ON PAGE TWO, IT TALKS ABOUT THE TOPOGRAPHY, THAT THERE IS NO ABNORMAL PHYSICAL FEATURES SUCH AS A SLOPE THAT IS HORRIBLY DEFICIENT.
THERE IS ACTUALLY A SLOPE THAT GOES OUT INTO WALHAM CREEK.
THAT'S WHERE THE FLOODING OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD GOES.
IF YOU GO TO PAGE THREE OF THE SAN ANTONIO AGENDA MEMORANDUM, THERE IS AGAIN A MENTION OF A TRAFFIC IMPACT THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE.
IT STATES THAT THERE'S A NONE FOR FISCAL IMPACT, HOWEVER, IT WILL DRIVE DOWN THE COST OF OUR HOMES.
IF YOU DECIDE TO PUT IN A MANUFACTURED HOME PARK HERE AND UNDER THE CRITERIA FOR REVIEW, IT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU ARE COMPLETELY SUBMERGING THIS MANUFACTURED HOME PARK INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BY OPEN UP THESE STREETS THAT WILL CHANGE THE CHARACTERISTIC OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BY OPENING UP TWO DEAD END STREETS AND YOU WILL BE CHANGING AND PUTTING UP THE BUFFER.
NOW THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL FOREST AND TREES THAT HIDES THAT INDUSTRIAL AREA.
YOU'LL BE MOWING THAT ALL DOWN.
THAT'S WHAT THE MAIN, UH, THE CON CONTRACTOR TOLD ME THAT HE PLANS TO DO.
THERE WILL BE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORING LAND.
THERE'S A SCHOOL RIGHT HERE, THERE'S ONE SIDEWALK, THERE'S A SCHOOL ZONE, AND THE CHILDREN HAVE TO PLAY IN THE STREETS AND THE CHILDREN HAVE TO WALK IN THESE STREETS.
AND YOU WANNA PUT IN 32 RENTAL HOMES THAT CONTRACT.
THERE WILL BE, THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT WILL BE HAPPENING.
AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
IF YOU WOULD PLEASE HOLD ON THE LINE FOR QUESTIONS.
THANK ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. LEE? UH, COMMISSIONER JONES, PLEASE? UH, YES, MS. LEE, THE, THE, WHEN YOU SAY THAT THE, UH, WITH THE TRAFFIC, UM, WITH OPENING UP THE DEAD END STREETS, WHICH STREETS ARE YOU REFERRING TO? YES, MA'AM.
I LIVE RIGHT AT THE END OF NEWPORT DRIVE.
THE CONTRACTOR CAME AND WALKED THROUGH THE LOT BACK IN FEBRUARY AND I SAW HIM WALKING OUT THERE AND ASKED HIM WHAT WAS HAPPENING AND HE NOT VERY POLITELY TOLD ME THAT THEY ARE PLANNING TO MOW DOWN THE ENTIRE LOT WITHIN TWO MONTHS, NO PERMITS FOR PUL.
HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY CARE ABOUT THAT WHATSOEVER.
AND HE WAS PLANNING TO GO AHEAD AND BREAK GROUND.
AND HE TOLD ME THEY'RE GOING TO OPEN UP NEWPORT DRIVE, THEY'RE GONNA OPEN UP STERN PARK.
THOSE WILL BE THE ENTRANCES, THOSE WILL BE THE EXITS INTO THIS MANUFACTURED HOME PARK.
RIGHT NOW, THOSE ARE DEAD END DRIVE.
I LIVE AT THE END OF A DEAD END DRIVE.
I DO NOT WANT TO LIVE AT THE OPENING AND EXIT OF A MANUFACTURED HOME PARK WHERE THESE CARS WILL BE DRIVING IN AND OUT WHERE THE CHILDREN SPECIFICALLY PLAY AT THIS DEAD END DRIVE BECAUSE THE ONLY SAFE PLACE FOR THEM TO RIDE AROUND THEIR BIKES BECAUSE THERE IS NO OTHER PLACE.
THERE IS ONE SIDEWALK ALONG OVERLAND FOR THESE CHILDREN TO WALK TO SCHOOL.
THERE ARE NO OTHER SIDEWALKS IN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO COMPLETELY OPEN UP THIS AREA.
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OUT OF NEWPORT AND CERNA PARK ONTO OVERLAND.THEY'LL BE GOING OUT TO WALDEN DRIVE, WHERE IF YOU HAVE BEEN OUT TO WALDEN DRIVE IN THIS AREA DURING PRETTY MUCH ANY TIME OF THE DAY, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S A TRAIN GOING BY, ESPECIALLY DURING RUSH HOUR, THE BEGINNING AND ENDING OF SCHOOL TIME, THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC.
YOU CANNOT GET IN OR OUT THERE AND THERE IS NO LIGHT RIGHT THERE.
YOU ARE CREATING AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS SITUATION IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE THIS REBELS ADDRESS AND ALLOW THEM TO OPEN IT UP TO CERNA PARK IN NEWPORT DRIVE.
SO I'M ASKING THAT YOU DO NOT ALLOW THIS, THIS IS A DANGEROUS SITUATION.
UM, UH, MS. WEISEL, COULD YOU ADDRESS HER, UH, OR HAVE YOU ADDRESSED ISSUES OF, OF THAT SIMILAR CONCERN, UH, WITH THE, WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND COMMISSIONER JONES? I'M SORRY, IF WE COULD JUST, UH, HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MS. LEE AT THIS TIME AND WE CAN COME BACK MS. WEISLER ALONG REBUTTAL, IF THAT'S, DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR IF I COULD ANSWER, IF I COULD ANSWER HER QUESTION, HOLD HER.
UM, WELL, I JUST WANNA, OR MR. WEISLER, ANY QUESTION TO THE COMMISSIONER THERE THAT THEY HAVE, WE HAVE HAD, UH, ANY COMMUNICATION, NONE OF THE NEIGHBORS HAVE ANY COMMUNICATION WITH MS. WESLER OR ANYBODY ELSE.
IT'S JUST BEEN KIND OF HEARSAY GOING BACK AND FORTH.
BUT, BUT THE QUESTION WASN'T ADDRESSED TO YOU.
UH, AND WE JUST WANT TO KEEP THE MEETING MOVING A LITTLE BIT, BUT I'M SURE IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER QUESTION, UH, FROM A COMMISSIONER, WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE TO YOU.
UH, COMMISSIONER JONES, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS. LEE? NO, THANK YOU.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS. LEE? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, MS. LEE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND, AND YOUR CLEAR ATTENTION TO DETAIL AND YOUR COMMENTS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
ALRIGHT, UH, STAFF, ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, SIR.
UH, MS. WEISLER, ANY REBUTTAL? YES, THANK YOU, YOU CHAIR.
UM, JUST WANTED TO KIND OF CLARIFY.
UM, AND I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL NEIGHBORS, UH, A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORS ABOUT THIS, UH, NEWPORT DRIVE AND CERNA PARK.
I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE ARE FUNCTIONING AS DEAD END STREET, BUT THOSE ARE THE ONLY CONNECTION POINT TO THIS PROPERTY.
THEY ARE DEAD END IN THE SENSE THAT THEY DEAD END AT OUR PROPERTY.
THEIR PROPERTY, WHILE ADDRESSED ON WUBBLE DRIVE, DOES NOT CONNECT TO WUBBLE DRIVE.
UM, IT DEAD ENDS RIGHT BEFORE YOU GET TO THE DRAINAGE DITCH THAT IS ON OUR ADJACENT, OUR IMMEDIATE EAST.
SO STERNER PARK AND NEW PARK ARE THE ONLY ROADS THAT CONNECT TO THIS PROPERTY THAT IS OUR ONLY POINT OF ACCESS, UH, TO THE PROPERTY OR FROM THE PROPERTY.
SO WE, WHILE I WOULD PERSONALLY PREFER TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS FROM LEVELS, WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER CHOICE.
UM, SO THAT IS, THOSE ARE THE ONLY POINTS OF ACCESS, UH, TO THE PROPERTY THEMSELVES.
SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
UM, WE WILL CONTINUE OUR OUTREACH WITH THE COMMUNITY.
UM, I, I UNDERSTAND, UM, MS. LEE HAS SEVERAL CONCERNS AND WE'RE HAPPY TO GET CONNECTED WITH HER AFTER THIS MEETING.
UM, SO WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE THAT OUTREACH, UM, BUT WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED REZONING MOVING FORWARD TODAY.
UM, OKAY, IN THIS CASE, THIS IS A DISTRICT TWO CASE, SO TO YOU, COMMISSIONER JONES.
UM, I, AT THIS POINT, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, THANK YOU.
QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, PLEASE.
UM, AND I KNOW WE SPOKE EARLIER, EMILY, BUT JUST TO KIND OF GO OVER SOME OF THIS, UM, SO THIS IS GOING TO BE 32 UNITS OF SOME KIND OF, UM, TINY HOUSES, IF YOU WILL.
IS THIS COMMUNITY GONNA BE LIKE A POD? IS THIS COMMUNITY GOING TO HAVE SOME KIND OF A MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION? UM, CAN YOU ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS? UM, YES.
THERE WILL BE A, A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION.
WE'RE STILL INTERNALLY WORKING OUT THE DETAILS OF THAT, BUT THIS WILL BE, UH, A MANAGED ASSOCIATION.
I KNOW THAT IS A, A CONCERN TO MAKING SURE THAT THESE, UH, LOTS STAY WELL MANICURED, EVERYTHING STAYS IN PLACE.
UM, THIS WILL FUNCTION VERY SIMILARLY, I GUESS, UM, TO A, A P MORE OR LESS.
BUT, UM, YES, THIS WILL BE A CONVENTIONAL SUBDIVISION WITH A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION FOR IT.
AND ARE THESE HOMES FOR SALE OR IS THIS A PLANNED RENTAL COMMUNITY? CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT? THESE HOMES ARE FOR SALE.
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ENGINEER, UM, ACTUALLY STUDIED, UH, DEVELOPMENT, I GUESS, IF YOU WILL, OF A BRIDGE TO CONNECT TO WEL DRIVE? UH, WE ARE, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR.UM, DEFINITELY LOOKING AT THAT, IF, IF THAT IS A, A PHYSICAL OPTION, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WOULD GO INTO THAT THAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF ACTIVELY LOOKING AT, TO, TO YOUR POINT, TO FIND ANOTHER ROUTE TO BRING IN THE HOMES, UH, TO BRING IN THOSE MANUFACTURED HOMES INTO THE SITE.
UM, I WILL SAY AS A, AS A SIDE THOUGHT THAT THE, THE TIME SAVED BY JUST BRINGING IN THE HOMES, WE'RE JUST GONNA BRING 'EM IN AND DROP 'EM AND BE DONE, WHICH DOES ULTIMATELY REDUCE THE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITIES RATHER THAN A SITE BUILD CONSTRUCTION WITH, YOU KNOW, MAJOR TRUCKS IN AND OUT EVERY DAY.
UM, BUT WE ARE, WE ARE OPEN TO AND LOOKING AT ALL OPTIONS, UH, TO GET THOSE HOMES IN TO THIS PROPERTY WITH AS LITTLE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY AS POSSIBLE.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS LEARNING HERE.
CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT UNDER THE RMM FOUR, UM, ZONING REQUIREMENTS, WHAT ARE KIND OF THE SIZE REQUIREMENTS FOR THESE STRUCTURES? UH, I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER, WOULD YOU CLARIFY? DO YOU MEAN, UH, LIKE DIMENSIONAL LOT SIZE, OR DO YOU MEAN HOME SIZE? NO, I, I'VE GOT THE LOT SIZE.
WE'RE, WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE ALL HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING.
FIRST WE'RE ENVISIONING MAYBE CAMPER TRAILERS OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
I THINK MAYBE SOME OF US HAVE THAT IN OUR HEADS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME KIND OF A, A MOBILE HOME, A SMALLER CAMPER TRAILER TYPE PARK.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT'S NOT THE CASE, THAT IT'S SOME KIND OF AN ACTUAL PRE-STRUCTURED HOUSE, IF YOU WILL.
I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THERE IS SOME INDICATION ABOUT WHAT THAT SIZE IS.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A 400 SQUARE FOOT HOME? WHAT, WHAT, YOU KNOW, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN OFFER ON THAT? UM, SO YES, I, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE, THE QUESTION AND THE PUZZLEMENT.
UM, SO I, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A 400 SQUARE FOOT ZEISS HOME.
UH, I THINK PROBABLY BASE RANGE, MAYBE 1200.
UM, AS YOU MENTIONED, WE ARE LOCKED IN TO A 4,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT.
WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A, I THINK A MINIMUM HOME SIZE, UH, BASED ON THE ZONING.
UM, KAT CAN ALSO CHIME IN AT ANY POINT AND TELL ME I'M TOTALLY WRONG.
UH, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, MAYBE A MINIMUM OF 1200 SQUARE FOOT HOME, BUT IT IS ONE HOME PER LOT.
UM, THESE HAVE TO BE LOCATED, UH, ON A PERMANENT AFFIXED FOUNDATION WITH A VISIBLE FOUNDATION SYSTEM.
AND SKIRTING, WHICH IS ACCEPTED IN A SIMILAR APPEARANCE TO THOSE OF A SITE-BUILT RESIDENCE, UM, THEY HAVE TO FORM COMPLETE ENCLOSURE UNDER EXTERIOR WALLS, NO WHEELS OR AXLES OR ALLOWED, THEY MUST BE ALL FULLY REMOVED.
UM, UNITS MUST HAVE SITE-BUILT STEPS AND PORCHES.
UM, THEY ALSO HAVE, THE CODE ALSO REQUIRES A SLOPING ROOF EVE PROJECTION, UM, WITH MATERIAL SIMILAR TO THOSE OF A SITE-BUILT HOUSE, UM, ON THE CONSTRUCTION SITE.
SO THERE ARE SEVERAL REGULATIONS WITHIN THE CODE THAT KIND OF, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THE PREFABRICATED HOMES LOOK AS TRADITIONAL AS POSSIBLE.
UM, BUT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO BE PERMANENTLY AFFIXED.
UM, BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT QUOTE UNQUOTE, UH, TINY HOMES.
UM, THEY CAN FAIL, BUT REGARDLESS, WE CAN'T INCREASE THE DENSITY.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T SQUEEZE 700 TINY HOMES ON THIS LOT.
WE HAVE TO HAVE ONE HOME PER LOT, AND THAT LOT IS REQUIRED TO BE A MINIMUM 4,000 SQUARE FEET.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
I JUST WANTED TO SEE THE SITE PLAN AGAIN.
WE'RE GETTING IT LOADED UP FOR YOU.
EMILY, IF YOU CAN LET US KNOW WHICH SLIDE TO GO TO IF IT'S REFERENCED THERE.
UH, THERE IS NOT A SITE PLAN INCLUDED IN THE PRESENTATION.
WE DON'T HAVE A FORMAL SITE PLAN.
UM, AS DISCUSSED WITH STAFF, THE M H P DISTRICT AND I, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I'M CORRECT AND VERY CLEAR ABOUT THIS.
THE M H P IS THE MANUFACTURED HOME
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PARK.IT, THE CODE ALLOWS THE OPTION TO PURSUE A CONVENTIONAL SUBDIVISION WITHOUT A FORMAL PARK PLAN, UM, WITH OTHER SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS, UM, WHICH IS THE OPTION THAT WE ARE PURSUING.
IF WE WERE TO PURSUE A PARK PLAN, UM, THEN WE WOULD HAVE A FORMAL SITE PLAN, THEN THAT WOULD ALSO GO THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION.
AND MAYBE, KAT, YOU CAN EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN I T BUT WE DO NOT HAVE A FORMAL SITE PLAN, UH, ATTACHED TO THIS APPLICATION, UM, BECAUSE WE ARE PURSUING THE CONVENTIONAL SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE.
UM, COMMISSIONER MCGEE, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, I AM GONNA TAKE THAT SILENCE AS A NOTE.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? STAFF? I DO HAVE A QUESTION MYSELF, WHICH IS HOW, AND THIS MAY BE UNFAIR AND OR RHETORICAL, BUT HOW DID THIS END UP BEING ADDRESSED AS BLES IN THIS CASE, IF, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT THAT.
SO, UM, IF YOU SEE ON THIS MAP, THE BLES JUST IS TO THE NORTHEAST AND SORT OF DEAD ENDS INTO A, UH, PROPERTY THAT'S ADJACENT TO IT ON OUR G I S MAP.
IT, IT, IT IS ADDRESSED OFF OF BLES, OR AT LEAST AROUND IN THAT LOCATION.
IT DOESN'T HAVE AN ADDRESS ON ANY OTHER STREET.
UM, SO WE, WE, WE WORKED WITH WHAT OUR G I S HAD AS FAR AS ITS LOCATION.
UH, I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
UM, THIS, OH, COMMISSIONER SIPES FINALLY SAW YOU.
THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
YOU, YOU MENTIONED PERMANENT FOUNDATIONS AND HOW THE HOMES ARE PER SALE.
ARE THE LOTS FOR SALE OR IS IT A LEASED LOT AND THE, THE HOME IS PURCHASED IT.
UH, COMMISSIONER SYS, UH, YES, SO THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION.
UH, THE HOMES AND THE LOTS ARE FOR SALE, SO IT'S A, A FEE SIMPLE TRANSACTION FOR THAT.
SO YOU WOULD BUY THE LAND AND THE HOME ON TOP AS IN STANDARD FOR A TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SIPES.
UM, SEEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS.
UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT TWO CASE, SO, UH, COMMISSIONER JONES, IT IS TO YOU FOR MOTION AND DISCUSSION.
IT JUST SEEMS AS THOUGH THERE'S A DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE, THE NEIGHBORS AND THE CONCEPT OF THE MANUFACTURED HOMES, LET ALONE WITH THE, WITH THE STREET ISSUE.
UM, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO CONSIDER A CONTINUANCE SO THAT YOU CAN, UH, GIVE THEM THE BROCHURES, MAYBE A ROUGH DRAFT SITE PLAN SO THAT THEY CAN FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE THAT THIS IS NOT MOBILE HOMES? IF YOU WOULD, UH, YES.
COMMISSIONER JONES, UH, WE WOULD BE WILLING TO ACCEPT A CONTINUANCE ON, IN THIS CASE, TO CONTINUE THOSE DISCUSSIONS, UM, AND HELP EDUCATE AND CLARIFY SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT BROUGHT UP TODAY.
UM, THEN CONSIDERING THAT I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FOR A CONTINUANCE FOR FOUR WEEKS SECOND.
THERE IS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JONES FOR A CONTINUANCE FOR FOUR WEEKS TO THE AUGUST 17TH MEETING WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITE.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? AND, SORRY, ACTUALLY IT'S A QUESTION.
UM, AND IT'S TO STAFF BECAUSE I'M STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE RM FOUR AND WE'RE BEING TOLD THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO FOLLOW THE RMM FOUR GUIDELINES.
BUT YET WE'RE CHANGING THIS TO MOBILE HOMES OR MANUFACTURED HOME.
IS IT, WHAT IS IT THAT'S DRIVING THIS CHANGE? IS IT THE FACT THAT THEY ARE PREFABRICATED? THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN DO A PREFABRICATED HOME IS IN A M H P ZONING.
SO THE CURRENT ZONING IS ACTUALLY TWO ZONING.
UM, THE, UH, TYPE OF HOUSING, IF THEY'RE, UH, I THINK IT'S THE HUD CODE MANUFACTURED HOMES, THAT'S WHAT WOULD TRIGGER THE
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REQUIRED, UH, ZONING.UM, AND IF THEY'RE SUBDIVIDED IMPLANTED, UM, INDIVIDUALLY, IT'S NOT CONSIDERED A PARK IF YOU'LL, UH, SO IT'S THE TYPE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT IT'S PROVIDING AS WELL AS THE, UH, CHANGE TO THE CURRENT ZONING THAT IS TRIGGERING THE REZONING.
AND IT, MAYBE IT'S JUST ME STILL NOT FOLLOWING, UM, THAT, SO IT'S, IT'S THE FACT THAT IT'S PRE-MANUFACTURED HOME THAT'S TRIGGERING THIS.
SO HUD CODE MANUFACTURED HOMES REQUIRE THE MANUFACTURED HOUSING ZONING THAT WE HAVE IN OUR DISTRICT.
IT'S ALSO, WHAT IS DRIVING IT IS THAT IT'S, IT'S GOT TWO, IT'S SPLIT ZONES.
IT'S BOTH RM FOUR TODAY AND R FIVE.
SO IN ORDER FOR THEM TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DENSITY WITH THE, WITH THE LOT SIZES THEY NEED TO REZONED, BUT AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S THE TYPE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THE WAY IT'S MADE, MANUFACTURE HOUSING THAT TRIGGERS THE REZONING FOR IT.
SO IF WE MOVE TO THE MANUFACTURED HOUSING WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT TODAY THEY'RE GONNA BRING IN 32 HOMES ON SOME KIND OF TRAILER AND TAKE THEM OFF AND PARK THEM ON A SLAB OR P AND BEAM, THAT COULD CHANGE AND IT COULD JUST REVERT BACK TO 32 MOBILE HOMES.
WAIT, THE FIRST THING THAT YOU DESCRIBED IS THE MANUFACTURED HOME.
SO IF THEY DECIDED NOT TO DO MANUFACTURED HOMES, THEY COULD DO TYPICAL HOMES, UM, USING THE ARMED FOUR STANDARDS.
BUT AGAIN, WHAT TRIGGERS THE M M H P IS THE FACT THAT THEY ARE BRINGING IN MANUFACTURED HOME, UH, WHICH TRIGGERED THE MANUFACTURED HOUSING DISTRICT CLEAR AS MED.
I JUST, I JUST, I'M STRUGGLING WITH THIS ONE.
IF WE JUST NEED RMM FOUR, UM, I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE NEVERMIND.
JUST TO HELP CLARIFY, IF THEY DO RM FOUR, YOU CANNOT HAVE MANUFACTURED HOMES ON ITS RMM FOUR ZONE PROPERTY.
SO THAT, AGAIN, IT HAS TO DO, YOU'RE RIGHT, IT HAS TO DO WITH THE TYPE OF HOUSE HOUSING THAT THEY ARE BUILDING THAT THEY WANNA BRING MANUFACTURED HOME.
UNFORTUNATELY, OUR CODE DECADES AGO REQUIRED THAT FOR ANY TYPE OF HUD CODE MANUFACTURED HOUSING, IT TRIGGERED A REZONING.
THAT, THAT JUST WHAT WAS, UH, REQUIRED IN OUR CODE.
WHEN OUR CODES WERE ADOPTED BY COUN THE COUNCILS BACK THEN, UH, THERE WAS DISCUSSION FEDERAL AND STATE LEVEL ABOUT NOT REQUIRING REZONING BECAUSE THIS IS A TYPE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, BUT IT'S AN EXTRA STEP IN THIS PROCESS PROCESS, UNFORTUNATELY, TODAY.
SO AGAIN, RMM FOUR BY ITSELF DOES NOT ALLOW FOR MANUFACTURED HOMES.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MANUFACTURED HOME TYPE OF ZONING DISTRICT IN ORDER TO BRING IN HUD CODE MANUFACTURED HOMES.
I, I GUESS I'M TRYING TO DEFINE WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A MOBILE HOME AND A HUD APPROVED, MANUFACTURED HOME? I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE TWO.
SO THE, THE TECHNICAL TERM, THE TERM TODAY THAT WE USE ARE HUD CODE MANUFACTURED HOMES, THE TERMS OF, YES.
IT'S JUST THAT THE, THE TYPE OF NOMENCLATURE THAT PEOPLE CALLED IT MOBILE HOMES, BUT THAT IS NOT THE TYPE OF HOUSING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
MOBILE HOMES WERE, AGAIN, PRIOR TO, I WANNA SAY IT'S THE EIGHTIES THAT TRIGGERED THE, THE REQUIREMENT, THE HUD CODE MANUFACTURED HOMES.
BUT MANY PEOPLE JUST CALL THEM MOBILE HOMES, BUT IN OUR CODE, THEY'RE MANUFACTURED HOME HUD CODE MANUFACTURED HOME.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY TYPE OF HOUSING THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED HUD CODE MANUFACTURED HOME ON MANUFACTURED HOUSING DISTRICTS OF TODAY.
I GAVE A LITTLE INDULGENCE ON THE QUESTIONS, UH, 'CAUSE WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING THE CURRENTLY PENDING MOTION, WHICH IS FOR CONTINUANCE TO AUGUST 17TH.
I THINK THE DISCUSSION WAS HELPFUL, SO THAT'S WHY, UH, WE ALLOW THAT TO GO FORWARD.
UM, BUT THE MOTION CURRENTLY IS FOR CONTINUANCE TO AUGUST 17TH.
ANY DISCUSSION OF THAT MOTION? SEEING NONE.
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VICE CHAIR SIPES? YES.MOTION PASSES FOR A CONTINUANCE ON AUGUST THE 17TH BY A VOTE OF 10 TO ZERO.
ALRIGHT, UM, OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM
[6. 21-4783 (Continued from 07/06/2021) ZONING CASE Z-2021-10700115 CD (Council District 5): A request for a change in zoning from "C-3NA H RIO-4 MC-1 AHOD" General Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales Mission Historic River Improvement Overlay Roosevelt Metropolitan Corridor Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-2NA CD H RIO-4 MC-1 AHOD" Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales Mission Historic River Improvement Overlay Roosevelt Metropolitan Corridor Airport Hazard Overlay District with a Conditional Use for Construction Trades Contractors with Welding and Carpentry on Lots 1, 2, 3, 4 and 10, Block 1, NCB 3120, located at 541 Roosevelt Avenue. Staff recommends Denial. (Associated Plan Amendment PA-2021-11600033) (Michael Pepe, Senior Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)]
NUMBER SIX, PLEASE.UNLESS ANY COMMISSIONER WOULD LIKE, UH, A TIME, A SMALL BREAK AT THIS POINT, BUT I THINK WE CAN POWER THROUGH.
ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE NA TO C TWO AND A CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A CONSTRUCTION TRADE CONTRACTOR WITH WELDING AND CARPENTRY.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 5 41 ROOSEVELT AVENUE.
NONE WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND ROOSEVELT PARK IS IN SUPPORT.
THERE WERE TWO NOTICES RECEIVED OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA THAT WERE OPPOSED.
THE EXISTING C THREE AND A BASED ZONING DISTRICT IS NOT AN APP IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C TWO AND A CD IS ALSO NOT APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
ALTHOUGH A DOWN ZONING FROM C THREE TO C TWO, THE CONDITIONAL USE WOULD ALLOW AN I ONE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL USE, WHICH WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL ZONING AND USES TO THE WET.
THUS, STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE? YES, SIR.
MR. MCKNIGHT, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US ABOUT THE PROJECT.
BRIAN ORTIZ, 1 1 2 EAST PECAN, UM, STAFF SUMMARIZED THE, THE, SOME OF THE DETAILS OF THE SITE.
IF, UM, THE PRESENTATION CAN BE PULLED UP, PLEASE JUST PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHEN IT'S THERE.
SO IF WE CAN CONTINUE, MR. MCKNIGHT.
SO SLIDE ONE IS A, AN AERIAL JUST SHOWING THE ROOSEVELT PARK AREA.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION OF THE SITE.
THIS IS ABOUT A THREE QUARTER OF AN ACRE SITE WITH EXISTING AN EXISTING BUILDING, UH, COMPLEX ON IT ALREADY.
YOU CAN SEE ROOSEVELT PARK TO THE NORTH AND SOME OF THE HOMES TO THE THE WEST.
SLIDE TWO SHOWS THE ZONING MAPS.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU'VE PROBABLY ALREADY SEEN THE ZONING MAP AS PART OF THE STAFF'S PRESENTATION, BUT THIS IS JUST TO AGAIN SHOW WE'RE CURRENTLY ZONE C THREE AND UP AND DOWN ROOSEVELT YOU WILL SEE C ONE AND C TWO ZONED PROPERTIES.
SO ROOSEVELT AVENUE IS, UH, PRIMARILY A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR IN THIS AREA.
SLIDE THREE IS ANOTHER AERIAL OF THE SITE.
NOW, JUST, UM, SO WE CAN FOCUS IN A LITTLE MORE, UH, THE BUILDING ITSELF, WHICH REALLY TAKES UP THE ENTIRE SITE.
THIS WAS BUILT IN THE 1950S, SO IT'S BEEN AROUND A WHILE AND, UM, IT'S STILL IN, IN DECENT SHAPE.
SLIDE FOUR SHOWS THE VIEW OF THE BUILDING FROM ROOSEVELT SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET A BETTER IDEA OF IT.
I KNOW THE BUILDING LOOKS REALLY MASSIVE WHEN YOU'RE SEEING IT FROM ABOVE AND AROUND, BUT ON THE STREET LEVEL IT REALLY IS JUST A ONE STORY BUILDING.
AND WHAT I'VE DONE IS LABELED THE, THE USES THAT ARE PART OF THIS PROPERTY ALREADY.
SO WHAT TRIGGERED THE REZONING IN THIS CASE IS, UH, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY HAS, HAS OWNED THIS FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS AND HAS BEEN LEASING OUT PORTIONS OF THAT BUILDING TO DIFFERENT TENANTS.
ONE OF THEM WAS A CABINET MAKER AND ONE OF THEM WAS A WELDING SHOP.
WHAT HE DIDN'T KNOW WAS THAT EACH OF THOSE REQUIRES AN S U P IN THE C THREE ZONING.
HE JUST FIGURED C THREE WAS APPROPRIATE, SO HE BROUGHT THEM IN.
UH, LAST YEAR, OR ACTUALLY EARLIER THIS YEAR, WE FOUND OUT THAT'S NOT ALLOWED.
SO IN TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT WAY TO ZONE THE PROPERTY, WE WERE LOOKING FOR WHETHER S U P FOR A CABINETRY, S U P FOR A WELDER, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR HIM TO KEEP THESE USERS ON SITE.
SO THE ONLY THING THAT WE COULD DO WITHOUT HAVING TO SPLIT ZONE THE PROPERTY WAS TO FIND A USE THAT ENCOMPASSED BOTH A WELDING SHOP AND A CABINET SHOP.
SO THE REASON FOR THE ZONING THAT WE'RE REQUESTING TODAY, AND THAT SAYS THE CONTRACTOR TRADE FACILITY IS, IS THAT WE'RE BOTH THE CABINET SHOP AND THE WELDING SHOP FIT WITHIN THAT USE.
BUT BECAUSE THE, THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE, THERE WERE NO OTHER C THREE ZONING IN THE AREA, WE WERE LOOKING TO DOWN ZONE THE PROPERTY.
SO THAT'S, AS STAFF MENTIONED, THIS IS A DOWN ZONING TO C TWO, BUT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW CONTRACTOR TRADES, BUT SPECIFICALLY FOR A CABINET SHOP AND A WELDING SHOP ON IN THIS EXISTING BUILDING, 33,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT SLIDE NUMBER FIVE, PLEASE, SLIDE FIVE SHOWS
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THE SITE PLAN THAT WE SUBMITTED FOR THIS CONDITIONAL USE THAT SHOWS WHERE THOSE TWO USES ARE.WE'VE LABELED ABOUT 4,500 SQUARE FEET.
IT'S MORE LIKE 3,800 SQUARE FEET FOR EACH OF THESE.
THERE'S SOME PARKING ALONG THE STREET, BUT THEY'RE JUST A SMALL PORTION OF THIS LARGER BUILDING.
AND RIGHT NOW THIS IS THE ONLY, THESE ONLY TWO TENANTS THAT THIS OWNER HAS IN ORDER TO KEEP THIS BUILDING GOING.
SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR HIM TO KEEP 'EM.
BUT WE'VE LABELED THOSE TWO AREAS FOR THE CABINET SHOP, FOR THE WELDING SHOP.
AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE LABELED THE AREAS WHERE THE PARKING IS, THERE'S NOT MUCH PARKING FOR EITHER OF THESE.
UH, THE REST OF THE BUILDING HASN'T BEEN USED FOR A WHILE.
BUT, UM, EVEN WITH THE DOWN ZONING, THAT WOULD AGAIN, LIMIT THE USES THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GO FROM AS WE HAVE IT TODAY.
SO, UH, THIS SITE PLAN AT LEAST SHOWS YOU WHERE THOSE USES ARE AND, AND THEN AGAIN ALSO LIMITS THEM.
IF YOU GO TO SLIDE SIX, PLEASE, THIS IS THE DOWNTOWN PLAN THAT WAS JUST ADOPTED FOR THE SITE.
I WANNA SHOW THIS BECAUSE I THINK THIS HAD PARTLY TO DO WITH AT LEAST I BELIEVE IT HAD PART TO DO WITH WHY THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL.
UM, THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE CURRENTLY IN THE PLAN THAT WAS JUST RECENTLY ADOPTED.
IT'S CONNECTED TO SOME, SOME HOMES, ALTHOUGH THE HOMES THAT ARE DIRECTLY NEXT TO THIS ARE ACTUALLY OWNED BY THE SAME PROPERTY OWNER.
SO HE OBVIOUSLY IS VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF HAVING THIS REZONED.
BUT IF YOU LOOK DOWN, UP AND DOWN THE CORRIDOR, IT'S ALL URBAN MIXED USE.
SO THIS WHOLE CORRIDOR IS, UM, WAS, WAS DESIGNATED TO BE APPROPRIATE FOR C TWO USES, WHICH AGAIN IS THE BASE DISTRICT THAT I'M ASKING FOR IN THIS CASE.
AND PLANNING COMMISSION LAST WEEK DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
AGAIN, THIS IS THE ZONING MAP SHOWING OUR, WHERE OUR PROPERTY'S LOCATED AND THE OTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES IN THE AREA.
AND SLIDE EIGHT IS THE LAST SLIDE I'M SHOWING.
IT'S JUST THAT WE APPROACHED THE ROOSEVELT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THEY TOOK A VOTE AMONGST THEIR MEMBERS AND THEY DID VOTE TO SUPPORT US.
UH, I THINK THEY JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHO THE OWNER WAS, WHAT KINDS OF BUSINESS HE WAS RUNNING.
THE, EACH OF THESE SHOPS ONLY HAS A FEW PEOPLE.
THE WELDER, THE WELDING SHOP ONLY HAS TWO WELDERS AND, AND THREE EMPLOYEES.
SO THIS IS A VERY SMALL OPERATION, BUT ONCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD MET THEM, TALKED TO THEM AND UM, FELT THAT HIS INTENTIONS WERE GOOD, THEY ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS REZONE.
UH, MR. MCKNIGHT STAFF, ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO SIR.
UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE.
IN FACT, IT IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND MY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UM, BUT AS A MEMBER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOARD, I TOOK NO PART IN THE DELIBERATIONS BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOARD.
UM, BUT, UM, MY QUESTIONS I GUESS TO STAFF ARE, YOU KNOW, IN LIGHT OF SORT OF THE CONTRACTOR USES OUTLINED IN THIS REZONING REQUEST, THOSE ARE LIMITED TO THE DOTTED LINES, THE SITE PLAN AS SUBMITTED BY MR. MCKNIGHT, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
THE SITE TIME PERTAINS TO THE, UH, CONTRACTOR FACILITY, UH, USE ONLY.
SO THE CONTRACTOR FACILITY USE WOULD BE LIMITED TO THOSE 2 4500 SQUARE FOOT AREAS THAT ARE RIGHT ALONG THE ROOSEVELT AVENUE, UH, CORRIDOR.
UH, MR. MCKNIGHT, UH, ARE THERE HOURS OF OPERATION THAT WE COULD ADD A CONDITION HERE? YES, SIR.
WE, YEAH, I'VE TALKED TO THE OWNER.
THEY, THEY'RE, THEY HAVE PRETTY NORMAL HOURS.
THEY WOULD, UM, BE WILLING TO PUT AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE A, A LIMITATION FROM EIGHT 8:00 AM TO 6:00 PM MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.
UM, I BELIEVE THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE AT THIS TIME.
UH, JUST A COMMENT, SOME OF THE THINGS HAVE, UH, ROOSEVELT WITH AN EXTRA L AND SOME OF 'EM HAVE ROOSEVELT, JUST SO IT'S NOT TOO CONFUSING.
JAMES, THIS IS ON YOU SPELL CHECK.
I LOVE BEING CALLED OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, UH, SEEING NONE, AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS A CASE WHERE I AM GOING TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL, UH, WITH THE CONDITION OF THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
UM, AS NOTED, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN IN FAVOR.
UM, THIS BUILDING HAS BEEN THERE AS PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD
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FOR, YOU KNOW, 70 YEARS.UM, IT HAS TO MY KNOWLEDGE, ALWAYS SORT OF BEEN A CABINET SHOP CONTRACTOR PROVISION, UH, CERTAINLY IN THE FIVE OR SO YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, MAYBE MORE NOW.
AND I THINK EVEN THE 14 YEARS THAT MY WIFE HAS BEEN HERE, OR 17 YEARS THAT SHE'S BEEN HERE.
UM, SO IN LIGHT OF THAT, IN LIGHT OF THE RESTRICTIONS OF THIS USE, THE FACT THAT IT'S A DOWN ZONING THAT THE PLAN AMENDMENT HAS PASSED, UM, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT, UM, I'M GOING TO NOW, CURRENTLY I MOVE FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED WITH THE CONDITION OF HOURS OF OPERATION FROM 8:00 AM TO 6:00 PM MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY SECOND JONES.
I SAW I GOT COMMISSIONER JONES.
I THINK ROMEO MIGHT HAVE BEAT YOU, BUT, UH, WE'RE GONNA GO WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JONES.
UM, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND DISCUSSION.
SEEING NONE, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITIONS AS STATED ON THE RECORD.
AND A SECOND ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
MOTION PASSES WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH CONDITION 10 TO ZERO.
[16. 21-4763 ZONING CASE Z-2021-10700149 (Council District 3): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District to "RM-5 MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD" Residential Mixed Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District on south 90 feet of Lot 1, east 43 feet and west 7 feet of south 90 feet of Lot 2, and west 15 feet of south 90 feet of Lot 3, Block 12, NCB 9312, located at 435 Verne Street. Staff recommends Approval. (Mirko Maravi, Senior Planner (210) 207-0107, mirko.maravi@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)]
OUR FINAL, UM, ZONING CASE ITEM NUMBER 16.ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO R R AND FIVE WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
OH, I, I'M STILL GIVING THE PRESENTATION.
THIS IS LOCATED AT 4 35 VERN STREET.
THERE WERE 26 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION.
AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THE CURRENT R SIX IS APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED RM FIVE ADDS MORE DENSITY STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
UH, MR. STEIN, I PRESUME THAT'S YOU.
AND SO IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US ABOUT, UH, YOUR REZONING REQUEST HERE ON BURN STREET.
THIS IS BRIAN STEIN, UH, THE OWNER OF THE 4 35.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER ONE AT 4 35 DASH ONE ON BURN STREET.
AND UM, THIS IS, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE CURRENTLY AS MENTIONED, ZONED IS R SIX, LOOKING TO DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT A RMM FIVE LEVEL.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCOPE OF THE PROPERTY, IT SHOULD BE A R FIVE LEVEL OR BE MOVED TO SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
JUST ON HOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOLL SQUARE FOOTAGE AND BACK TO MY POINT, UH, THE INTENT OF THIS PROPERTY IS TO REZONE IT, CREATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, LOOKING TO DO DUPLEXES IN THAT PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT NEEDS SOME INVESTMENT, ESPECIALLY AS THE PRESSURES OF SAN ANTONIO KEEP ON GROWING LEAPS AND BOUNDS.
AND, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING YOUR GUYS' FURTHER APPROVAL OR ANYTHING FURTHER.
STEPH, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE, SO COMMISSIONER MCGEE TO YOU.
UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH, MISS, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.
UH, MR. STEIN, GOOD AFTERNOON.
UH, WOULD YOU, UM, UH, SO SO YOU PLAN ON, UM, THIS IS GOING TO BE, UH, RENTAL HOMES.
AND SO WILL YOU BE, UH, SO WILL THIS BE OUT OF TOWN MANAGED? WHO WILL BE MANAGING, UH, THESE HOMES? THE MANAGEMENT? SO I ALREADY HAVE A PROPERTY MANAGER IN SAN ANTONIO.
HE IS LOCAL THERE, UH, MANAGES A LOT OF PROPERTIES OUT THERE AND HAS BEEN DOING THIS FOR
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OVER 20 YEARS.SO HE, HE IS CURRENTLY AND WILL IN FUTURE FOR THESE PROPERTIES, UH, MANAGE THE AREA OR MANAGE THE HOUSES.
HE RIGHT NOW IS OVERSEEING THE, THE PROPERTY AS FAR AS, BECAUSE IT'S EMPTY LOT SPACE THAT NOTHING IS BEING DUMPED.
UH, YOU KNOW, NOTHING'S OVERGROWING.
IF THERE'S A TREE ON THERE, IF IT FALLS OVER, ALL THAT TYPE OF STUFF.
HE'S ON SITE AND CHECKS ON THE PROPERTY ALL THE TIME.
UM, SO, UM, WHAT KIND OF, UM,
UH, SO LOOKING TO DO A SAME SINGLE STORY PROPERTY IS MATCHING THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT WOULD FIT WITHIN THE FORMAT, THE FEEL, THE LOOK, EVERYTHING, UH, THAT JUST BE PARTITIONED LEFT HAND SIDE, RIGHT HAND SIDE ON, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PROPERTY ITSELF AND FOR EACH SIDE TO BE ABOUT 1100 SQUARE FEET AND LOOKING TO DO A THREE BED, TWO BATH, UH, TO FIT THAT SIZE, CUSTOMIZE TO THE SIZE AND, AND THE APPROPRIATE SIZE AND LAYOUT, WORKING WITH AN ARCHITECT ON THAT LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND PROPERTY, THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ACTUAL HOUSE OR DUPLEX.
UM, AND JUST CURIOUS, SO DID, DID YOU, UM, SO DO YOU HAVE OTHER PROPERTIES AROUND, UH, TOWN THAT, UH, OR IN OTHER TOWNS THAT YOU HAD, UH, RENDERINGS OF OR, UM, THAT WE MIGHT GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT OR TO SEE THE CONDITION AND YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
ACTUALLY 5 0 3 VERN RIGHT NEXT TO THE FIVE 30, UH, 4 35 IS MY PROPERTY AS WELL.
AND THEN TO THE RIGHT OF IT, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE IS THE 4 29 VERN.
AND THEY'RE IN GOOD STANDING AND THAT'S WHERE MY PROPERTY MANAGER IS ALREADY MANAGING THOSE PROPERTIES.
SO ON BOTH TO THE LEFT AND TO THE RIGHT OF THE ADJACENT LOTS ARE MINE AS WELL.
UM, THAT WOULD BE ALL MY, UH, QUESTIONS.
UM, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF OR APPLICANT'S COMMISSIONERS? UH, COMMISSIONER ROMERO ROME.
I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED BY OUR BACKGROUND MATERIAL.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD TWO DUPLEXES TOTAL OR TWO ON EACH LOT OR WHAT? TWO IN TOTAL? ONE EACH LOT.
THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, THE FOOTPRINT OF IT ALL, HAVING LOOKED AND WORKED WITH A INITIAL DESIGNER, THAT'S ALL IT'S BUILT FOR.
NOT NO INTENT TO OVERBUILD BY ANY MEANS.
BACK TO THE INITIAL QUESTION, THE LOOK, THE FEEL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO FIT WITHIN AND THE STYLE RIGHT NOW LOOKING AT, UH, WHETHER IT'S A CRAFTS HOME, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, OR, UH, MORE OF THAT COUNTRY FEEL WHEN YOU CAN LOOK AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT'S HOW ALL THE HOUSES ARE BUILT.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER O'NEAL.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE, AS I NOTED, UH, COMMISSIONER MCGEE TO YOU FOR, UH, MOTION AND DISCUSSION.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY, UM, DISCUSSION.
I'LL JUST, UH, MOTION, UH, TO APPROVE ITEM 16.
THERE'S A MOTION SECOND THAT FOR APPROVAL.
AND IS THERE A SECOND? AND I'M SORRY, WAS THAT COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.
UH, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL, UH, BY COMMISSIONER MCGEE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARROS.
UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS SEEING NONE.
MOTION FOR APPROVAL? PASSES 10 TO ZERO.
[22. 21-4752 Consideration and Approval of the July 6, 2021 Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes.]
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CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE JULY 6TH, 2021 ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.UH, COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY AMENDMENTS, CORRECTIONS, UH, ITEMS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE FIXED? ALRIGHT.
SEEING NONE, IS THERE A MOTION RELATING TO THE JULY 6TH MEETING MINUTES? MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
THERE IS A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES BY COMMISSIONER WHITE, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JONES.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE, STAFF, ANY REPORTS OTHER THAN MAYBE A REMINDER ABOUT OUR IN-PERSON MEETING? YEAH, UH, YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.
ON AUGUST 3RD, WE GO BACK TO IN-PERSON MEETINGS FOR YOU GUYS.
AND SO WE WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE ALL YOUR FACES HERE.
UM, I'LL BE SENDING OUT A CONFIRMATION EMAIL JUST TO DETERMINE IF ANYBODY NEEDS TO, UH, UH, OR WANTS TO, UH, ATTEND VIRTUALLY.
BUT, UH, AS A REMINDER, WE NEED TO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT IN THE BUILDING BECAUSE THESE ARE IN-PERSON MEETINGS FOR ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
AND, UM, THE VIRTUAL CAPABILITY IS ONLY FOR, UH, THE COMMISSIONERS.
AGAIN, UH, IF IT, AS LONG AS WE HAVE A QUORUM HERE AND AS A REMINDER, WE'RE STILL KEEPING VOICEMAILS AS AN OPTION AND WE'LL PLAY THEM FOR THE MEETING DURING THE MEETING.
AND, UM, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN ALWAYS GIVE THEIR, UH, COMMENTS IN SUPPORTER AND OPPOSITION, EITHER IN WRITING EMAIL OR DROP OFF IN THE BUILDING, OR THEY CAN ATTEND THE MEETING AS WELL.
UH, SO AGAIN, WE'RE BACK TO IN PERSON, UH, AND, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING EVERYBODY.
MR. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YES.
UM, I MEAN, I'M GLAD TO BE GETTING BACK IN PERSON TOO.
I JUST WISH, WISH THE CIRCUMSTANCES WERE A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW WITH A, UM, A NEW SPIKE COMING.
SO, UM, CAN WE GET JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND? I MEAN, I'M VACCINATED, BUT I PREFER NOT TO GET A BREAKTHROUGH INFECTION.
UM, CAN WE JUST GET A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE GOING TO BE FOR MASKING AND SOCIAL DISTANCING AND EVERYTHING? SURE.
SO CURRENTLY, UM, WE, RESIDENTS ARE ALLOWED TO, UH, COME INTO THE BUILDING.
THOSE THAT ARE, UH, VACCINATED ARE NOT, UH, REQUIRED TO WEAR A MASK.
UM, THOSE WHO ARE NOT VACCINATED, THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT TO WEAR A MASK.
WE ASK THAT THEY WEAR A MASK, WE ENCOURAGE THAT THEY WEAR A MASK.
UH, BUT THERE IS NO ENFORCEMENT OF MASK WEARING.
SO, UH, IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WEARING A MASK, WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE VACCINATED OR NOT, FEEL FREE TO.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHAT'S POSTED, UH, UH, OUT, UM, ON OUR BUILDING DOORS.
JUST LETTING MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT COME IN, UH, YOU WILL BE COMING IN THROUGH THE MAIN ENTRANCE, UH, GOING THROUGH THE SECURITY MEASURES AND THEN COMING TO THE BOARDROOM.
UH, SO AGAIN, WE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WEARING A MASK, FEEL FREE TO, UH, YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO WEAR A MASK IF YOU'RE FULLY VACCINATED.
WELL, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WEARING A MASK WHEREVER I WANNA WEAR A MASK, BUT, UM, I, I, AS FAR AS THE SOCIAL DISTANCING, I MEAN IF WHEN WE GET BIG CROWDS IN THAT ROOM ARE, YOU KNOW, ARE THIS CHAIR SPREAD OUT? I MEAN, WE'RE SEPARATED, BUT I'M WONDERING ABOUT ALL THE PEOPLE SITTING THERE.
ARE THEY GONNA BE SPREAD OUT MORE THAN THEY USED TO BE OR WILL IT BE LIKE IT WAS BEFORE WHERE WE WOULD SOMETIMES HAVE A COUPLE HUNDRED PEOPLE PACKED IN THAT ROOM? GOOD QUESTION.
UH, THE ROOM CONFIGURATION WILL DEFINITELY BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE.
THERE WILL BE LESS PEOPLE ALLOWED INSIDE OF THE ROOM.
UH, WE WILL HAVE A WAITING AREA OUTSIDE OF THE BOARDROOM, UM, AS WELL AS THEY CAN ALSO WAIT OUTSIDE IF THEY'D LIKE TO, ESPECIALLY IN COOLER, UH, TEMPERATURES.
UH, BUT UM, THERE WILL, THERE WILL BE LESS SEATING AVAILABLE IN THE BOARD, NO STANDING ROOM ONLY.
UH, SO WE ARE MONITORING THAT AS WELL.
UH, THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THIS BOARD.
UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY SEEING YOU ALL IN PERSON ON AUGUST 3RD.
AND THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR ATTENTION AND WORKING THROUGH A PRETTY HEAVY DOCKET TODAY.
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TIME IS THREE 18 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.