* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. WHICH [00:00:01] WE'RE CONFIRMING THAT THEY'RE LIVE. JUST GIVE US ONE SECOND. OKAY. WE'RE LIVE. WE CAN, UH, [1:45 p.m. - Work Session] BEGIN THE WORK SESSION. OKAY. UH, FIRST QUESTION, DO WE HAVE, UH, ANY RECUSALS? I WILL BE RECUSING FROM ITEM NUMBER 13. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER HAVE A RECUSAL TODAY? I'LL CUS FROM 14. COMMISSIONER JACKSON RECUSING FROM 14. ANYONE ELSE? I THINK I HEAR SOMEONE TALKING, BUT I CAN'T REALLY HEAR. I HEAR THAT AS WELL. OKAY. OKAY. IS IT BETTER NOW? I, I HEARD COMMISSIONER ZUKI LOUD AND CLEAR, BUT I THOUGHT I HEARD A WOMEN'S VOICE. YEAH, THAT WAS ANOTHER MEETING. I JUST, I JUST STOPPED IT. SORRY. OH, GOTCHA. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO JUST, UH, RECUSALS FOR, UH, MYSELF FOR ITEM 13 AND, UH, COMMISSIONER JACKSON FOR ITEM NUMBER 14. OKAY. UH, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THE 11 PLOTS? 11. OKAY. UH, HEARING NONE, UH, CAN STAFF WALK US THROUGH ANY FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED FOR, UH, THE STREET NAME CHANGES? VALERIE, DO YOU HAVE, UH, ANY NOTICES THAT WERE RETURNED FOR EITHER OF THE STREET NAME CHANGES? NO NOTICES WERE RETURNED ON THE STREET NAME CHANGES. OKAY. THANK YOU. CAN STAFF WALK US THROUGH NOW THE OTHER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA AND ANY, UH, NOTICES RETURNED, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM. UH, I WILL GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH THE PLAN AMENDMENTS WITH YOU GUYS. IF YOU, UH, WANT TO JOIN ME AT ITEM NUMBER 14. I HAVE EIGHT NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION. NINE WERE RECEIVED OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA AND THEY WERE IN OPPOSITION AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOR THAT ITEM NUMBER 15 IS COMPLETELY POSTPONED AND WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED AT ALL TODAY. NEW NOTICES WILL BE SENT OUT FOR THAT WHEN THEY'RE READY TO PROCEED. SO THAT IS THE PLAN AMENDMENT. THAT WAS AT 2218 WEST SOUTH CROSS, THAT'S POSTPONED TODAY. ITEM NUMBER 16 IS ELIGIBLE FOR CONSENT. THERE WERE 15 NOTICES MAILED. TWO WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE WERE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION. AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THERE IS ONE VOICEMAIL ASSOCIATED WITH THIS IN FAVOR. AND SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAINTAIN IT ON CONSENT, WE CAN PLAY THAT MESSAGE PRIOR TO THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION ON THE CONSENT ITEM. AND THEN ITEM NUMBER 17 WILL NEED TO BE MOVED TO INDIVIDUAL. THIS ITEM HAS A LIVE COLLAR. THERE WERE 26 NOTICES MAILED. NONE WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR. 19 NOTICES WERE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM EAST CARROLL HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THE PLAN AMENDMENT TODAY. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHRISTIE. YOU'RE WELCOME. COMMISSIONERS. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON, UM, ITEM NUMBER 12? YEAH. THERE WAS NO DENIAL THAT WAS SENT BACK FROM THE NOTICES. NO NOTICES FOR EITHER OF THE STREET NAME CHANGES? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. HEARING NONE. ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM NUMBER 13? OKAY. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON 13. THIS IS COMMISSIONER PAT. YES, SIR. SO THE STREET NAME CHANGED. IS IT ONLY CHANGING A PORTION OF THE NAME OF, UH, LESTER ROAD TO GLOBAL WAY? OR IS IT THE WHOLE THING? I WAS JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED. UM, APART, [00:05:01] GO AHEAD. THE, THE APPLICATION BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION TODAY IS FOR THE, IT IS A PORTION OF THAT ROAD, UH, BUT IT IS THE ENTIRETY OF THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THAT ROAD. GOTCHA. UH, THE ROAD EVENTUALLY TURNS INTO A PRIVATE STREET AND THE, UH, THE FOLKS THAT HAVE THE PLA SUBMITTED FOR THAT PORTION INTEND ON REDLINING THE APPROVED BUT NOT YET RECORDED FLAT TO REFLECT THE CHANGE IF IT IS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL. GOTCHA. THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM NUMBER 14? I HAD A QUESTION. NUMBER 14, POSE THE REASONING BEHIND APPROVING RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL FOR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. 'CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S VERY CLOSE TO SOME HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USE. I CAN CHIME IN ON THAT. YES. UH, SO THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL IS ADJACENT TO THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL PROPOSAL. UH, BUT IT'S IN THE FAR NORTHEASTERN CORNER OF THE PROPERTY. UH, SO THE, LOOKING AT THE AREA IN GENERAL, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL SEEMS APPROPRIATE. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T GET ANY OBJECTION FROM J B S A, UH, ON THE REQUEST. OKAY. AND THEN, UH, I HAD ASKED ABOUT IT EARLIER, BUT IT SOUNDED LIKE THE CONCERNS FROM DEPARTMENTS AND THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE F A A, THE FLIGHT ZONE THAT HAPPENS DURING THE BUILDING PERMITTING PROCESS. UH, IF YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING, CAN YOU PUT YOURSELF ON MUTE PLEASE? YES, ALL OF THOSE, UM, THE F A A REGULATIONS, FLIGHT PATTERNS, ALL THAT STUFF WOULD BE CONSIDERED AT THE BUILDING PHASE. THAT'S SOMETHING WE DON'T NECESSARILY LOOK AT OR WE'RE LOOKING AT PLAN AMENDMENTS. OKAY. THANK YOU. THIS IS COMMISSIONER HAYNES. CAN WE HAVE THAT ONE PULLED SO WE CAN HEAR STAFF'S PRESENTATION? SURE. IT'S ALSO ALREADY PULLED INDIVIDUAL FOR REFUSAL. JACKSON, COMMISSIONER JACKSON. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON NUMBER 14? UH, COMMISSIONER SIEGEL, I HAVE A QUESTION. UM, ABOUT 14, UM, JUST LIKE, UH, COMMISSIONER CHRISTOPHER GARCIA NOTED A LOT OF THE, UM, NEIGHBOR OR, UH, COMMUNITY OPPOSITION TO, UH, NUMBER 14 TO THIS PLAN AMENDMENT HAS TO DO WITH, UH, F A A RULES AND THE RUNWAY OF PROTECTION ZONE. AND, UH, I THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME VALID CONCERNS ABOUT, UH, SAFETY, UM, AND FOR BOTH PILOTS, PASSENGERS AND FOR THE HOMEOWNERS OR THE FUTURE HOMEOWNERS IN THE AREA. SO I'M CURIOUS WHAT OTHER STRICTURES OF DEVELOPMENT, UM, THE FUTURE DEVELOPER WILL HAVE TO FOLLOW IN ORDER TO ADDRESS OR MITIGATE THOSE UH, CONCERNS. AND LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF THOSE THINGS WOULD BE CONSIDERED DURING THE, THE, YOU KNOW, BUILD OUT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PLATING PROCESS FIRST. UH, IT'S UNPLED LAND AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THEY WOULD'VE TO GO THROUGH BEAR COUNTY FOR ALL BUILDING RELATED PERMITS. UM, AND THEN IN ADDITION, WE DO HAVE, UM, PATRICK CHRISTENSEN WILL BE THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THIS CASE, AND HE'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER, UH, OTHER QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. UM, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST MAYBE GET AN IDEA OF HOW THEY'RE LOOKING TO DEVELOP THAT LAND. OKAY. OKAY. UH, 15 IS POSTPONED. UH, ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM NUMBER 16? OKAY, HEARING NONE, ITEM NUMBER 17. AND THAT WOULD BE PULLED AGAIN BECAUSE WE HAVE A, A LIVE CALLER. YEAH. NUMBER 17, IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS A, KINDA LIKE A COMMERCIAL BUILDING THAT MIGHT HAVE MULTIPLE TENANTS. SO IS, IS THIS, ARE THEY ASKING FOR THE, THE WHOLE BUILDING THE WHOLE LOT? OR IS THERE ZONING GONNA HAPPEN WITH, WITH ONE SPECIFIC TENANT? AND THEN I NOTICED IT SAID PRIVATE CLUB AND THE, THE, THE OPPOSITION NOTICES IMPLIED IT MIGHT BE FALL INTO THE S O B CATEGORY, WHICH IS MORE OF A ZONING ISSUE, BUT IF, IF IT FITS CERTAIN ZONING, THEN THAT COULD AFFECT WHAT PLAN AMENDMENT THEY GO FOR. SO CAN STAFF SPEAK TO THAT? YES, SIR. SO THIS REQUEST IS ACTUALLY, YES. UH, IN PARTICULAR THERE THEY HAVE A SITE PLAN TIED TO IT, AND IN ON THEIR SITE PLAN, IT INDICATES ONLY ONE SUITE OF THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. HOWEVER, IN ORDER TO AVOID ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR SURVEYING OR FOR AN ENGINEER, UM, THEY HAVE JUST REQUEST [00:10:01] REQUESTED THAT THE ENTIRE PROPERTY BE REZONED. UH, IT IS ALREADY ZONED C TWO AND A PAR, A PORTION OF IT IS ZONED O TWO. AND SO THEY JUST WANNA MAKE IT CONSISTENT WITH C TWO, BUT THEN HAVE THE S AS WELL FOR THE PRIVATE CLUB. SO, UH, AND, AND A PRIVATE CLUB CAN BE EVEN, I GUESS THE CLOSEST LIKENESS I CAN GIVE YOU WOULD BE LIKE A V FS W RIGHT. SO MEMBERSHIP MEETS, THEY, THEY GATHER SOCIALLY, THAT KIND OF THING. UM, THE CODE DEFINES IT AS A GROUP OF PEOPLE ORGANIZED FOR A COMMON PURPOSE, UM, CHARACTERIZED BY ITS MEMBERSHIP, PAYMENT OF FEES AND REGULAR, UM, MEETINGS OR GATHERINGS. SO, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY WE UNDERSTAND IT, IS THE SOCIAL CLUB FOR ONE OF THE SUITES ON THE PROPERTY. HOWEVER, THEY ARE, UH, IN ORDER TO AVOID COST EXTRA COSTS, JUST REZONING THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROPERTY AND GETTING THE F FOR THE PRIVATE CLUB. OKAY. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL THEN FOR THAT, THAT I THINK IT WAS ON THE CORNER. IT IS ON THE CORNER, YES, SIR. THE CORNER OF BREMAN. MM-HMM. . OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM NUMBER 18? HOW ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 19? OKAY. UH, SO TO RECAP, UH, STAFF, WE HAVE EVERYTHING IS ELIGIBLE FOR CONSENT, UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF NUMBER 13, WHICH IS BEING PULLED FOR RECUSAL. AND ITEMS NUMBER 14 AND 17 ARE ON INDIVIDUAL, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. AND THEN, UM, 15 IS POSTPONED. PERFECT. WE HAVE THREE MINUTES BEFORE WE START THE MEETING, UH, WITH THOSE THREE MINUTES STAFF, DO WE HAVE AN UPDATE? I, I BELIEVE I HEARD THAT WE WERE TARGETING AN AUGUST DATE FOR BACK IN PERSON. UM, IS THERE AN UPDATE ON THAT? UM, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT WITH CASES RISING AGAIN, UNFORTUNATELY, LOGAN, ARE YOU GONNA CHIME IN? YEAH, SORRY. I WAS UNMUTING AT, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE ARE, UH, CONTINUING TO LOOK AT IN-PERSON MEETINGS, UH, STARTING IN THE MONTH OF AUGUST. UM, THOSE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN ENTERTAIN A, UH, HYBRID FORMAT TO ALLOW SOME COMMISSIONERS TO, UH, TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING VIRTUALLY. BUT, UH, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE AT LEAST SIX OF THE COMMISSIONERS IN THE BUILDING TO CONSTITUTE THE, THE PHYSICAL QUORUM. UH, BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, THE GOVERNOR'S, UH, DIRECTION OF ALLOWING VIRTUAL COMMISSION HEARINGS EXPIRING, UH, WE ARE LOOKING AT GOING BACK TO IN-PERSON MEETINGS. AND JUST TO CHIME IN, IT'S ACTUALLY A QUO FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO JUST THE FIVE MEMBERS HAVE TO BE PRESENT IN THE BUILDING IN ORDER FOR THE US TO MEET THE MEETING REQUIREMENTS. THANK YOU, KAT. OKAY. AND, AND LOGAN AND KATT. AND, AND THAT'S FINE WITH ME. I'M, I'M HAPPY. UM, AND COM COMPLETELY COMFORTABLE BEING IN PERSON, BUT ARE Y'ALL SENDING OUT SOME SORT OF SURVEY OR SURVEYING THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S THE CASE FOR EVERYONE ELSE? UH, I, I DON'T BELIEVE, UH, THAT WE HAVE DONE A, A SURVEY AGAIN, WITH, WITH THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER EXPIRING. WE, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE WHERE WE CONTINUE TO DO THIS VIRTUALLY. UM, THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER HAS, HAS MADE IT CLEAR THAT VIRTUAL HEARINGS HAVE TO CEASE, AND WE DO NEED TO GO BACK TO THESE, UH, LARGELY IN-PERSON, UH, FORMAT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR. THANK YOU, SIR. UM, HEY, CHAIR, DID Y'ALL TALK ABOUT 18? WE JUST WANNA BE SURE THAT YOU'RE AWARE THAT THERE'S AN ITEM 18 AS WELL ON UNDER OTHER ITEMS. N 19. N 19? YES. I, I THINK I ASKED EVERYBODY FOR IF THEY HAD QUESTIONS IN IT 18 AND 19 AND I DIDN'T HEAR ANY. YES, YOU DID. OKAY, GREAT. OKAY. OKAY. IT'S TWO O'CLOCK. WE CAN GO AHEAD AND BEGIN THE MEETING. ALL RIGHT. [2:00 P.M. - Call to Order] IT IS JULY 28TH AT TWO O'CLOCK. I'M CALLING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER. UM, IF YOU ALL, IF STAFF CAN PLEASE PLAY THE [00:15:01] SPANISH INTERPRETER SERVICES STATEMENT. I THANK YOU. UH, ROLL CALL, PLEASE. OKAY. COMMISSIONER JACKSON, PRESIDENT COMMISSIONER CARILLO HANES. HERE. COMMISSIONER CHRISTOPHER GARCIA PRESENT. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL PRESENT, COMMISSIONER DKI PRESENT, COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA. PRESENT, PRESENT. COMMISSIONER ORIAN. PRESENT VICE CHAIR PECK PRESENT. AND MADAM CHAIR GONZALEZ PRESENT? I DIDN'T CHECK. IS COMMISSIONER UH, BUSANTE HERE? OH, NO. YOU DOUBT TODAY. OKAY. QUORUM IS PRESENT. THANK YOU. UH, NEXT UP. IF YOU ALL CAN READ THE MEETING FORMAT TO PROTECT THE HEALTH AND PUBLIC AND LIMIT THE POTENTIAL SPREAD OF C OVID 19. THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS HOLDING MEETINGS VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE. THESE MEETING STANDARDS ARE BASED UPON VARIOUS SUSPENDED PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN MEETING ACT ISSUED BY THE TEXAS GOVERNOR IN RESPONSE TO THE COVID 19 CRISIS AND ARE IN PLACE UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN WATCH AND LISTEN TO THE MEETING BY VISITING WWW.SANANTONIO.GOV/DSD OR BY CALLING IN FOR AUDIO ONLY AT 2 1 0 2 0 6 5 4 8 3. TO INCORPORATE PUBLIC COMMENT, THERE ARE FOUR OPPORTUNITIES. THESE INCLUDE EMAIL OR MAIL COMMENTS, DROPPING OFF COMMENTS, LEAVING VOICEMAIL, OR ASKING TO BE CALLED DURING THE MEETING. STATEMENTS OR COMMENTS RECEIVED ARE PART OF THE OFFICIAL WRITTEN RECORD FOR ITEMS ON INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT. STAFF WILL PLAY ANY MESSAGES RECEIVED BY VOICEMAIL. LASTLY, FOR THOSE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO RECEIVE A CALLBACK, WE WILL CALL THEM TO STATE THEIR TWO MINUTE COMMENT. SPANISH INTERPRETERS ARE ON STANDBY AS NEEDED. THE APPLICANT WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO REBUTTAL WITH A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSIONER QUESTION. THANK YOU. [Consent Agenda] THANK YOU. WE HAVE TWO AGENDAS TODAY. WE HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AND, UH, THE INDIVIDUAL AGENDA. ALL ITEMS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR CONSENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM NUMBER 13, WHICH IS BEING PULLED FOR PURPOSES OF RECUSAL. AND ITEMS NUMBER 14 AND 17 WILL BE PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. AND ITEM NUMBER 15 HAS BEEN POSTPONED. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. REAL QUICK, REAL QUICK, JUST FOR A QUICK CLARIFICATION ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13. I KNOW THAT'S ONLY PULLED FOR RECUSAL. DID YOU WANT THE FULL PRESENTATION OR DID WE JUST WANNA READ THAT ONE INTO THE RECORD FOR A VOTE WITH THE RECUSAL? I AM OKAY WITH THE LATTER. I DIDN'T HEAR ANY COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS FOR THAT ONE UNLESS I HEAR OTHERWISE FROM A, A COMMISSIONER. OKAY. I, I APPRECIATE IT. I, I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR CONSENT ITEMS. COMMISSIONER PECK A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. COMMISSIONER CARILLO HA. SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PECK. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CARILLO HAYNES, ROLL CALL PLEASE. OKAY. BEFORE THE ROLL CALL VOTE, WE DO HAVE A VOICEMAIL THAT WE WILL PLAY IN SUPPORT. UH, JUST GIVE US ONE MOMENT. YES. MY NAME IS LEROY KLU. K L U T H. MY ADDRESS IS 26 31 [00:20:01] WIKA SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO ONE OH. PHONE NUMBER (210) 630-8708. THIS IS IN REGARDS TO PLAN AMENDMENT NUMBER P, LIKE AND PAUL A LIKE IN ALBERT, 2 0 2 1 DASH 1 1 6 0 0 0 5 5. YES, I AM IN FAVOR OF REZONING THIS PARCEL OF PROPERTY. THIS REZONING TO ME IS A NO-BRAINER. I HAVE OWNED THIS PROPERTY WITH MY PARENTS FOR OVER 75 YEARS. THERE HAS BEEN NO CIVIC ACTIVITY IN THE AREA OUTSIDE OF A BEAR COUNTY DETENTION CENTER AND A PROBATION DEPARTMENT'S EQUESTRIAN CENTER. ALL THE PROPERTY AROUND IS OWNED BY THE COUNTY, NEITHER IS HELPING THE COUNTY OR CITY TAX BASE. A SUBDIVISION WITH A HUNDRED HOMES WOULD ADD 15 TO $20 MILLION TO THE TAX BASE OF THE COUNTY AND THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. PLUS IT WOULD BE A BIG BOOST TO THE EAST CENTRAL SCHOOL DISTRICT. LEROY KLU, JR. PROPERTY OWNER. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO ROLL CALL, VOTE UH, COMMISSIONER CARILLO HANES. YES. VICE CHAIR PECK? YES. COMMISSIONER JACKSON? YES. COMMISSIONER CHRISTOPHER GARCIA? YES. YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI APPROVED. COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GU GARCIA APPROVE. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. AND MADAM CHAIR GONZALEZ? YES. OKAY. MOTION PASSES. OKAY. I'M HANDING OVER THE VIRTUAL GAVEL TO COMMISSIONER PECK WHILE I SIGN OFF. OKAY. IT IS 2 0 8 AND CONNIE HAS TURNED OFF HER CAMERA AND MUTED HERSELF. SO, UH, WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 13 [13. 21-4582 ADDR-SNC-21-12700002: A request by Brooks Development Authority for approval of a resolution to change Lyster Road to Global Way, generally located between Sous Vide Way and Goliad Road within Council District 3. Staff recommends Approval (Valerie Rodriguez, Senior Planner, 210-207-0533, Valerie.Huerta-Rodriguez@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department) 1] IS, UH, AN INDIVIDUAL, UH, CONSIDERATION FOR PURPOSES OF RECUSAL. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MOVE FOR, I GO AHEAD AND MOTION FOR APPROVAL, UH, FOR ITEM NUMBER 13, WHICH WAS, UH, PUT ON INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF RECUSAL. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER CHRISTOPHER GARCIA, SECOND MIKE GARCIA. SECOND BY MIKE GARCIA. UH, PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL THEN. COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA. YES. COMMISSIONER CHRISTOPHER GARCIA. YES. COMMISSIONER JACKSON? YES. COMMISSIONER CARILLO? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI. APPROVED. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. VICE CHAIR PACK? YES. MOTION PASSES. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. ALRIGHT, TURN THE VIRTUAL GAVEL BACK OVER TO . RECEIPT ITEM CHAIR GONZALEZ. THANK YOU, SIR. OKAY, NEXT STEP ON OUR AGENDA IS [14. 21-4721 PLAN AMENDMENT CASE PA-2021-11600039 (ETJ - Closest to Council District 8): A request by Patrick Christensen, representative, for approval of a Resolution to amend the Extraterritorial Jurisdiction Military Protection Area Land Use Plan, a component of the Comprehensive Master Plan of the City, by changing the future land from “Agricultural” to “Low Density Residential” on 62.446 acres out of CB 4680, generally located at 29300 Boerne Stage Rd. Staff recommends Approval. (Daniel Hazlett, Development Services Manager (210) 207-8270, Daniel.Hazlett@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)] ITEM NUMBER 14, WHICH HAS BEEN PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. I AND, UH, COMMISSIONER JACKSON HAS, IS TURNING OFF HIS CAMERA AND WILL BE MUTING HIMSELF. IT'S 2 0 9 AND HE HAS DONE SO FOR PURPOSES OF RECUSAL UH, STAFF. DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR NUMBER 14? YES. THE PROPERTY OWNER IS REQUESTING A LAND USE CHANGE FROM AGRICULTURAL TO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FOR A SUBDIVISION. UH, WE SENT OUT EIGHT NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET. WE RECEIVED ONE IN OPPOSITION WITHIN THE 200 FOOT RADIUS WITH AN ADDITIONAL NINE RESPONSES OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FOOT RADIUS IN OPPOSITION. AND THERE WAS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN THIS AREA. [00:25:07] AND DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT ON THE LINE? THEY'D LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION? WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF TRANSFERRING HIM INTO THE MEETING RIGHT NOW. IT'LL JUST BE ONE MOMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. PATRICK, IF YOU'RE THERE, PLEASE UH, HIT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE YOURSELF AND, UH, GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. I'M HERE AND PRESENTATION. ALRIGHT, GO AHEAD. PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, THREE 10 SOUTH ST. MARY'S, SUITE 2,700. UM, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. I APOLOGIZE. I DID NOT GET TO HEAR A STAFF'S PRESENTATION, BUT I WILL TRY TO BE BRIEF AS POSSIBLE. UH, UH, WE ARE TRYING TO BASICALLY BUILD A MERITAGE HOME SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION ON THIS PROPERTY. DANIEL, IF YOU COULD PULL UP THAT EXHIBIT I SENT YOU AND KIND OF ZOOM IN TOWARDS THE BOTTOM WHERE IT SAYS B C PARCEL OWNER ALMO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT. I THINK THAT'LL ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CONCERNS I HEARD AT THE WORK SESSION, BUT BASICALLY WE'RE ASKING FOR THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION SO THAT WE CAN BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION. WE DID RECEIVE A NON OPPOSITION LETTER FROM JOINT BASE SAN ANTONIO. SO THIS PROJECT WILL NOT AFFECT THE OPERATIONS AT, UH, CAMP BULLIS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT EXHIBIT. AND DO YOU HAVE THAT UP, DANIEL? YES. YES, PATRICK. OKAY. UM, IMMEDIATELY WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE, THE OPPOSITION THAT'S BEEN RECEIVED WAS THE SMALL PRIVATE AIRPORT BASICALLY SENT OUT A FORM LETTER TO SOME OF THEIR PILOTS AND THEY SENT THAT IN. THEY ARE NOT RESIDENTS OF THE AREA. THEY USE THE AIRPORT. UM, WE ARE NOT IN THE FLIGHT PATH. SO THERE ARE NO F A A RESTRICTIONS ON THIS PROPERTY. MERITAGE HOMES WOULD NOT HAVE IT UNDER CONTRACT IF THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED TO BUILD SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THERE WE ARE NOT IN THE FLIGHT PATH. IF YOU LOOK UNDER THE WORD PROPOSED, THAT IS THE END OF THE RUNWAY. ALL OF OUR HOMES ARE OUT OF THAT BOUNDARY. MERITAGE HOMES HAVE A SUBDIVISION THAT IS IN THE FLIGHT CLASS OF RANDOLPH AIR FORCE BASE AND SHIRTS AND THOSE HOMES, THEY INJECTED WITH EXTRA INSULATION, DOUBLE PANE WINDOWS THEY SOLD, THEY'VE HAD NO COMPLAINTS. PRINT GRANTED, IF YOU HAVE THE WINDOWS OPEN WHEN FIGHTER JETS ARE, ARE LANDING, IT'S PLOWED. BUT IF YOU CLOSE YOUR WINDOWS, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A LOUD NOISE. THIS IS A MUCH SMALLER NON JETT RUNWAY AND SMALL PROP PLANES. IT WILL NOT AFFECT THE SALES OF THESE HOMES. WHAT'S DRAWN THE IRE OF THE AIRPORT, BECAUSE WE DID MEET WITH THEM AND, AND TALK TO 'EM ABOUT OUR PROJECT, IS THEY WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND THEIR RUNWAY. THE PROPERTY NORTH OF THE AIRPORT IS OWNED BY THE ALAMO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT. THEY WANT TO BUILD A SCHOOL CAMPUS THERE. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS EXHIBIT, WE ARE GOING TO HELP THE ALAMO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT BY BUILDING A ROAD THROUGH THEIR PROPERTY TO, TO OUR PROPERTY THAT WILL CONNECT ALCON'S CREEK TO BERNIE STAGE ROAD, WHICH WILL HELP ALLEVIATE SOME TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA. WE ARE ALSO BRINGING A SEWER LINE ACROSS THE ALAMO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT. THEY DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO SEWER AT THIS TIME, AND THAT IS WHY THEY HAVE NOT BUILT ANY CAMPUS UP THERE THUS FAR. UM, THE, SO THE ISSUE WITH THE AIRPORT IS THEY, THEY CAN'T EXPAND THEIR RUNWAY BECAUSE THEY DON'T OWN THE LAND. THEY ASKED IF THEY COULD PURCHASE THE LAND. THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT ATTORNEYS TOLD THEM, WE CAN'T JUST SELL THE LAND, WE PURCHASE IT WITH BOND FUNDS. WE DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN SELL IT. IF WE DID, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT FOR BID. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE. WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION THERE. UH, THE, THE OPPOSITION WE HAVE, LIKE I SAID, IS STRICTLY FROM THE AIRPORT. THE EAST SIDE OF THE AIRPORT IS SOLIDLY ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SO WE WOULD JUST ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU PATRICK. UM, I WILL DO KIND OF A, A ROLL CALL FOR COMMENTS, UH, STARTING WITH COMMISSIONER ZUKI. IF I MAY, UH, CHIME IN. UH, WE DO HAVE THREE VOICEMAILS TO PLAY ON THIS AS WELL. UH, IF YOU DON'T MIND PLAYING THOSE BEFORE, UH, DELIBERATING. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, UHHUH. YEAH. MY NAME IS, UH, DAN KERRIGAN. UM, WE HAVE A HANGAR 65 BERNIE STAGE ROAD AT, UH, IN, AT THE AIRPORT. YES. UH, I'M IN OPPOSITION TO THE ZONING CHANGE DUE TO SAFETY REASONS, UH, WITH FLIGHT PATH AND A LOT OF OTHER ISSUES. UM, THE CASE NUMBER IS PA 2 0 2 1 DASH 1 1 6 DASH ZERO ZERO ZERO NINE. MY TELEPHONE NUMBER, AREA CODE (361) 548-7552. MY [00:30:01] HOME ADDRESS IS 16 4 0 3 LEDGE ROCK, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 3 2. ANYWAYS, AGAIN, I AM IN OPPOSITION FOR, FOR SAFETY REASONS. UH, THANK YOU. BUT HAVING SOME SOFTWARE ISSUES. JUST GIVE US ONE. ROBERT BRUCE, I RESIDE AT 100 BERNIE STAGE AIRFIELD. MY PHONE NUMBER IS TWO TEN FOUR ONE FOUR ZERO ZERO TWO EIGHT. RESPONDING IN OPPOSITION TO CASE NUMBER PA 20 21 1 1 6 3 9. THE BERNIE STAGE AIRPORT IS SHOWN ON YOUR EXHIBIT AS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. IS IT APPROPRIATE TO APPROVE RESIDENTIAL IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL? IS THIS CONSISTENT WITH OSA ZONING OR THE U D C? RURAL AREAS DO BECOME URBAN ICE AND AS A RESULT OF URBAN STRAW IS THE LOSS OF OPEN SPACE AND OFTEN AIRPORTS OR THEIR UTILITY. THE BERNIE AIRPORT IS AN ECONOMIC ENGINE AND VITAL TO THE BEXAR COUNTY SAN ANTONIO AREA. PLANNING MUST ENSURE THAT ADJACENT LAND TO THIS AIRPORT IS COMPATIBLE WITH NORMAL OPERATIONS IN INCLUDING AIRCRAFT LANDING AND TAKEOFF. THIS IMPORTANT RESPONSIBILITY IS AN ISSUE OF FEDERAL INTEREST AS THE APPLICANT FILED UNDER PART 77 WITH THE F A A, THIS LAND USE PLAN. THAT'S DOUBTFUL BECAUSE F A A NEVER RECOMMENDS ALLOWING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT UNDER AN APPROACH PATH OR THAT ENCROACHES THE RUNWAY PROTECTION ZONE. F A A WILL NOT RECOMMEND AND FOR PUBLIC FUNDING WILL NOT APPROVE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT UNDER OR WITHIN AN AIRPORT'S PATTERN AND CERTAIN BOUNDARIES OF THE RUNWAY. WHILE ONE COULD MITIGATE NOISE, ONE COULD NOT MITIGATE BEING WITHIN THIS PROTECTIVE ZONE AS PROPOSED. PART 77 ALSO INCLUDES ROADWAYS. THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED COLLECTOR ROAD RESTS JUST 1000 FEET FROM THE INSTRUMENT FLIGHT RULES. TOUCHDOWN ZONE RUNWAY ONE SEVEN AND 400 FEET FROM THE V F R POINT VEHICLES HIGHER THAN FOUR FEET WOULD ENCROACH THIS SURFACE. DURING V F R CONDITIONS. THIS PROPOSED ROAD ALSO KILLS ANY POSSIBILITY THIS FACILITY CAN SERVE A GROWING MARKET, WHICH WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO THE CITY, COUNTY, AND REGION BY OFFLOADING GENERAL AVIATION TRAFFIC FROM SS A T. THERE ARE NO OTHER VIABLE SITES IN THIS REGION. ALL OF THE SITES RECOMMENDED TO COSA IN THE 1985 STUDY IN WHICH I PARTICIPATED HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED INTO NON-AIR AIRPORT USES. I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU SAY NO ON THIS DECISION AND AT THE VERY LEAST, TABLE IT UNTIL FURTHER VETTING AND REVIEW BY THE ADJACENT LANDOWNERS, THE COLLEGE DISTRICT AND THE F A A CAN BE COMPLETED. THANK YOU. HELLO, THIS IS NANCY BRUCE. I LIVE AT 100 BERNIE SAGE AIRFIELD. MY CELL PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 602-6013. AND I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO CASE NUMBER 0 3 9. I'M, UH, ACTUALLY A RETIRED SOUTHWEST AIRLINES CAPTAIN, WHICH WAS SOUTHWEST FOR 33 YEARS. PRIOR TO THAT I WAS A CORPORATE PILOT AND PRIOR TO THAT I WAS A FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR, OWNED AND OPERATED MY OWN FLIGHT SCHOOL FOR MANY YEARS. SO MY AVIATION EXPERIENCE TOUCHES ON ALL AREAS OF AVIATION. MY CONCERN IS SAFETY, MOST PILOTS IS ALWAYS SAFETY. AND, UM, YOUR MASTER PLAN SEEMS TO ENCROACH ON OUR RUNWAY PROTECTIVE ZONE, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY PUT IN PLACE BY THE F A A TO PROTECT PEOPLE AND PROPERTY ON THE GROUND. SO, UH, [00:35:01] WE TRY TO KEEP IT CLEAR OF ALL INCOMPATIBLE ACTIVITY AND, UM, THAT WOULDN'T THAT YOUR, UM, SUBDIVISION PART OF YOUR HOMES AND YOUR ROAD THAT YOU'RE PLANNING TO EXECUTE, WE'LL ENCROACH ON THAT. AND FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY, THE F A A, UM, RECOMMENDS THAT YOU DO NOT ENCROACH ON OUR, OUR, ACTUALLY IT'S CALLED A R P Z ZONE. MOST, UH, 45% OF, UH, MOST GENERAL AVIATION ACCIDENTS OCCUR FINAL APPROACH TO LANDING PHASE. AND THAT WOULD BE LANDING TO THE SOUTH ON OUR RUNWAY ONE SEVEN. AND THEN DURING THE WINTERTIME WE TAKE OFF TO THE NORTH. WE ALSO HAVE A A N A APPROACH THAT THEY SHOOT AT NIGHT. SO THERE'S MANY THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED. WE'RE TRYING TO EDUCATE YOU THAT I'M GONNA GO ON THE RECORD AS SAYING THAT I THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE EXTREMELY DUPLICITOUS ON YOUR PART TO IGNORE THE FA A'S ARE A RUNWAY PROTECTIVE ZONE, UM, JUST FOR YOUR OWN PROTECTION AND THE PEOPLE THAT YOU WERE SELLING PROPERTY TO. OKAY. THOSE ARE THE THREE VOICES. THANK YOU STAFF. UH, COMMISSIONER ZUKI, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES, UH, UH, READING THROUGH THE COMMENTS THAT WERE PROVIDED BY THE CITIZENS, SO THEY ALL CONCERN ON THE SAFETY, UH, BUILDING, UH, UH, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIALS NEARBY THE AIRPORTS. HAVE YOU ANTICIPATE, ARE YOU ANTICIPATING ANY OBJECTION FROM THE F A A, UH, REGARDING THAT DEVELOPMENT? IS THIS QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? YES. YES IT IS. OKAY. YES, WE, UH, KIMLEY HORN, THE ENGINEERS HAVE ALREADY REACHED OUT TO THE F A A. I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, WE DO NOT FEEL THEY WILL OBJECT TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE NOT IN THE FLIGHT PATH. IT'S VERY EASY TO SAY WE ARE AND TRY TO THROW THAT OUT THERE. BUT IT, THAT'S JUST NOT THE CASE. WE WOULD, THEY WOULD NOT, MARI TODD JONES WOULD NOT BE SPENDING THE MONEY TO, TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY IF THEY WERE NOT GONNA BE ALLOWED TO BUILD SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. UM, OKAY. HAVE YOU COMMUNICATING WITH THE ALAMO COLLEGE AS WELL? IF THERE ARE IN FAVOR OR IN DENIAL TO THIS DEVELOPMENT? THEY DON'T SEND IN COMMENTS ON INDIVIDUAL ZONING CASES, BUT WE, I MEAN PLAN AMENDMENT ZONING CASES, BUT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM. THEY'RE GOING TO GRANT US, UH, THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR FREE TO BUILD THAT ROAD ALONG THE SOUTHERN EDGE OF THEIR PROPERTY TO OUR PROPERTY. AND IN RETURN, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THE, BUILD THE ROAD PAY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD AND PAY FOR THE, UH, EXTENSION OF THE SEWER LINE ACROSS THEIR PROPERTY TO OURS, WHICH WILL, THAT SEWER LINE WILL FACILITATE THEM BUILDING THEIR CAMPUS ON THEIR PROPERTY. UH, QUESTION TO THE, TO THE, TO THE STAFF. UH, WE DO NOT REQUIRE TO HAVE THE F A A APPROVAL BEFORE, UH, VOTING ON THIS, UH, REQUEST. NO, BECAUSE WHAT F A A IS LOOKING AT IS VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION. THEY'RE NOT LOOKING AT LAND USE CATEGORIES. SO YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE F A A PERMISSION TO CONSIDER THIS ITEM TODAY. LEMME JUST ADD, WE'RE JUST BUILDING ONE AND TWO STORY HOMES HERE. I UNDERSTAND. I'M JUST WANTED TO SEE THE, UH, DENIAL COMMENTS THAT CAME FROM THE CITIZENS. UH, HAVE YOU TRIED, I'LL ASK MY QUESTION TO YOU. HAVE YOU TRIED TO WORK WITH THE CITIZENS BASED ON THE COMMENT THAT WAS PROVIDED TO, UH, HAVE LIKE, UH, A PUBLIC MEETING WITH THEM TO GO OVER THEIR CONCERN? YES, WE HAVE MET WITH THEM WITH THE DIRECTOR OF THE AIRPORT. WE OFFERED TO MOVE THE ROAD FURTHER NORTH. 'CAUSE ONE OF THEIR CONCERNS, IF YOU HEARD THEIR TESTIMONY, WAS, UM, TALLER VEHICLES MIGHT IN SOME WAY HAMPER THEIR LANDING AND TAKEOFF. BUT ULTIMATELY THAT DECISION ON WHERE THE ROAD IS LOCATED IS UP TO THE ALAMO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT. IT'S THEIR PROPERTY. SO WE'RE, WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH ALL PARTIES 'CAUSE WE NEED THE ROAD. OKAY. THANK YOU. NO FURTHER QUESTION. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ZUKI, UH, COMMISSIONER CHRISTOPHER GARCIA. YES. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. SO, ARE WE CORRECT THAT WE DID NOT GET A RESPONSE, AN OFFICIAL RESPONSE FROM A C C D OR THE AIRPORT ON THIS ONE? WE RECEIVED A RESPONSE FROM THE, UH, BERNIE AIRFIELD, UH, IN OPPOSITION THAT WAS, UH, MR. UH, ROBERT BRUCE, WHO, UH, WE LEFT THE VOICE, YOU KNOW, LEFT THE VOICEMAIL AND WROTE A LETTER IN OPPOSITION. UM, BUT NO, WE DID NOT RECEIVE A RESPONSE FROM ANY OF THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET. [00:40:01] OKAY. AND THEN WITH THAT HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AREA IN THE CORNER, WOULD THAT TRIGGER, UH, BUFFERS OR SETBACK REQUIREMENTS? 'CAUSE THAT'S, IT'S LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL POST TO THAT, WHICH USUALLY WE SEE BUFFER LAND USAGE CATEGORIES, BUT THAT WOULDN'T BE THE CASE HERE. SO IF, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE GRAPHIC THAT'S ON THE SCREEN HERE, THE APPLICANT, THE WAY THE SITE PLAN IS CURRENTLY LAID OUT, SHOWS A, I BELIEVE IT'S LABELED AS A PROPOSED 60 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, UH, THAT IS SEPARATING THAT INDUSTRIAL FROM THE, UH, SINGLE FAMILY USES. UH, THAT IS IN ADDITION TO THE SETBACKS ALREADY PROVIDED BY THE INDUSTRIAL USE. AND THEN THERE WOULD BE, UH, 20 FOOT, YOU KNOW, REAR SETBACKS ON THE, THE REAR END OF THOSE, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOME ALONG THAT BORDER. UH, SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT A PRETTY DECENT AMOUNT OF SPACE, CERTAINLY MORE THAN WHAT THE BUFFER YARD CHAPTER WOULD REQUIRE. THANK YOU. AND THEN, UH, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS ON, ON THE LAND USAGE CATEGORY MAP, A LOT OF THAT SPACE WAS DESCRIBED AS HAVING A CONTRIBUTING ZONE. WHAT DOES THAT IN REFERENCE TO THE CONTRIBUTING ZONE IS? WE, WE ARE PROBABLY MORE USED TO HEARING ABOUT THE, UH, EDWARDS AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE. SO THE, THE CONTRIBUTING ZONE IS AN AREA, UH, THAT IS NOT, IT'S NOWHERE NEAR AS SENSITIVE AS THE RECHARGE ZONE, BUT NONETHELESS PLAYS A ROLE IN THE PROCESS OF RECHARGING THE AQUIFER. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE SAME LIMITATIONS THAT THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL RECHARGE ZONE DOES. OKAY. SO IT'S A CONTRIBUTING ZONE, BUT ARE THERE, BECAUSE IT'S CONTRIBUTING NOT NECESSARILY A RECHARGE, ARE THERE STILL CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THAT, UH, ANY, ANY DEVELOPMENT ON THIS AREA WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH? UH, IT CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE TO WORK THROUGH A SAS REVIEW AS PART OF THE PLATT PROCESS. UH, BUT THAT WOULD HAPPEN AFTER LAND USE DECISIONS ARE AUTHORIZED. UH, SAS WOULD HAVE THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE DEVELOPMENTS, ADD NOTES TO A FLAT, OR NEGOTIATE OTHER REQUIREMENTS TO SATISFY THEIR OWN ORDINANCE. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONER CARILLO HAYNES. THANK YOU. UM, I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. UM, I'M NOT SURE IF STAFF KNOWS, BUT, UM, IS THIS AIRPORT OR DO YOU KNOW HOW IT COMPARES IN SIZE TO THE TWIN OAKS AIRPORT ON HEIMER OR IF THE APPLICANT KNOWS I SPEAKING FOR STAFF? I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. IT'S CERTAINLY NOT A A, A LARGE AIRPORT. UM, I CAN SEE IF I CAN PULL UP SOME DATA ON THAT REAL QUICK. OKAY. BECAUSE I'M JUST CURIOUS. YOU KNOW, I, UM, THAT AIRPORT IS SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL. UM, IT, IT BUTTS UP TO IT, IT ENDS ON, ON HEIMER AND THEN RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IS SOMEBODY'S, YOU KNOW, BACKYARD. AND I JUST DIDN'T KNOW, UM, I MEAN, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A, A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THIS AND, AND HOW IT COMPARES TO THAT. IT LOOKS LARGER JUST BY LOOKING AT GOOGLE MAPS, BUT I, I DUNNO FOR SURE. UM, THE SEVERAL OF THE CALLERS AND THEN SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WROTE IN, UH, COMMENTED ON THE RUNWAY PROTECTED ZONE. IS THAT AN ACTUAL THING IS, OR IS THAT, UM, I MEAN, DO WE HAVE ANY KIND OF GRAPHIC THAT DISPLAYS WHAT THIS SO-CALLED PROTECTED ZONE IS THIS IS THE APPLICANT? CAN I TRY TO ANSWER OR SURE. DO YOU WANNA TAKE THAT? UM, YEAH, BASICALLY I DON'T HAVE A MAP OF THAT, BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THERE'S BASICALLY, YOU TAKE THE RUNWAY AND EXTEND IT IN EITHER DIRECTION AND SORT OF LIKE A FLARING OUT, IF YOU WILL, OF, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN IMAGINE A PLANE TRYING TO CORRECT WHERE IT IS IN REGARDS TO THAT RUNWAY AS IT'S MAKING ITS LANDING APPROACH. IF YOU CAN LOOK AT OUR SITE PLAN THAT'S, THAT I BELIEVE STAFF HAS UP, LIKE, AGAIN, I'M A MINUTE BEHIND AND WHEN I'M WATCHING ON MY COMPUTER SCREEN, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT WE HAVE AT THE BOTTOM, WE HAVE HOMES RIGHT UP AGAINST THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE, BUT AS YOU GO NORTH, WE LEFT OPEN SPACE UP THERE AND THAT'S PART OF THAT ZONE. WE DIDN'T WANT TO, WE, WE CAN'T PUT ANY HOMES IN THAT ZONE. SO THAT'S WHY WE DID NOT PUT HOMES ALL THE WAY UP AGAINST THE PROPERTY LINE AT THE NORTHERNMOST REACHES OF THE PROPERTY TO PROTECT THAT, THAT APPROACH. UM, AND THERE WAS SOMEBODY THAT COMMENTED ABOUT SOMETIMES THERE'S APPROACH FROM THE NORTH, SO THEY WOULD BE LANDING CORRECT. AND THAT, THAT THAT'S WHY WE DON'T HAVE HOMES UP AGAINST [00:45:01] THE PROPERTY LINE AT THE, AT THE NORTHERN END. OKAY. AND THAT FLIGHT PATH, I, OKAY. SO I JUST, I WOULD, I WOULDN'T WANT THIS BODY TO APPROVE SOMETHING THAT IS POTENTIALLY IN VIOLATION OF, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT CODE. UM, THAT'S WHY WE DON'T HAVE THOSE HOMES TO RE RESPECT THAT ZONE. RIGHT. UM, SO, AND THEN, UH, STAFF IS, IS THERE AN ASSOCIATED ZONING CASE WITH THIS ITEM? I DIDN'T SEE THAT, BUT SO THIS ITEM IS, UM, OUTSIDE SEA LIMITS. OKAY. THERE'S NO ZONING OUT IN THE COUNTY. GOT IT. RIGHT, RIGHT. OKAY. THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION. SO, UM, AND YEAH, COMMISSIONER ZUKI ANSWERED OR ASKED MY QUESTIONS ABOUT DOCUMENTATION FROM THE F A A. UM, SO I'M, I'M KIND OF CONFLICTED ON THIS, JUST TO BE HONEST. I DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT WHERE I, I WILL VOTE ON THIS. UH, I, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF THE HANGAR OWNERS AND THOSE THAT UTILIZE THE AIRFIELD. UM, BUT AGAIN, AS WE'VE SEEN TIME AND TIME ON THIS COMMISSION, IF YOU DON'T PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT IT WON'T BE DEVELOPED. AND I MEAN, WITH ALAMO COLLEGES WANTING TO EVENTUALLY DEVELOP THAT PORTION OF LAND, I MEAN, IS THE AIRPORT GONNA COME BACK AND, AND SAY NO TO THAT AS WELL? UM, BUT OF COURSE THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE THERE IS CONCERNS AS I MENTIONED THAT, THAT TWIN OAKS, UH, AIRPORT ON HEIMER, AND I THINK IT WAS IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS, THREE TO FIVE YEARS I REMEMBER, UM, A PLANE OVERSHOOTING THAT RUNWAY AND, AND CRASHING INTO A HOUSE. SO I GET THE CONCERNS, BUT, UM, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE REST OF MY, UH, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. SO THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA? NO QUESTIONS. VICE CHAIR PECK. MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED SO FAR. OKAY. I ECHO THAT. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING SO THOROUGH IN YOUR QUESTIONS. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. OH, I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER OREN, GO, GO AHEAD. OKAY. MY APOLOGIES. YEAH, SO, SO STAFF, UM, WHAT IS IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS? BECAUSE IF THERE'S, IF THIS IS AN E T J AND THERE'S NO ZONING, THEY DON'T, WHY ARE, WHY ARE THEY MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS? WHAT DOES IT NEED? SO THIS IS PART OF WHAT WE CALL THE E T J M P A EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION MILITARY PROTECTION AREA. IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2019 AND, UH, WHEN THEY HELD, UH, ELECTION OR THEY VOTE FOR ANNEXATION, YOU COULD VOTE YES TO ANNEXATION OR NO TO ANNEXATION, BUT YES, TO LAND USE CONTROLS. SO THERE'S NO ZONING OUT THERE PER SE, BUT THERE IS LAND USE CONTROLS TO ENSURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE MILITARY INSTALLATION. OKAY. THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. 'CAUSE I'VE, I'VE DONE PROJECTS IN THE E T J AND I DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THIS STUFF. I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A, UH, A COMPONENT IN PLACE. UH, SECOND THING IS, IS, UH, WITH THIS BEING OVER THE CONTRIBUTING ZONE AND OVER FIVE ACRES, THIS IS FOR, UH, PATRICK, UH, THE APPLICANT. ARE YOU GOING TO, ARE YOU PURSUING THE 30% IMPERVIOUS COVER LIMIT? ARE YOU DOING CORPORATION OUT THERE? I BELIEVE THEY AND DONALD, YOU'RE AN ENGINEER. HE KNOWS BETTER THAN I DO. I BELIEVE WE HAVE TO DO A CONTRIBUTING ZONE ABATEMENT PLAN. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, SO WE DO HAVE TO WORK WITH THE T E C T C E Q TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T CAUSE ANY POLLUTED RUNOFF INTO THE AQUIFER. UM, I BELIEVE THAT THE SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT WITH PLENTY OF OPEN SPACE, OUR IMPERVIOUS COVER IS, IS VERY, VERY LOW. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT. I I JUST, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE WAS, UH, THE QUESTION HAD COME UP ABOUT BUFFERS. I MEAN, SOMETIMES WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY, THEY PUT A, UM, A RESTRICTION ON IMPERVIOUS COVER LIMITS, WHICH MIGHT BE GOOD FOR, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE LESS HOMES, IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE SAFER, I THINK IF, UH, THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CONCERNS WITH THE AIRPORT. THERE'S, AND, AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER ORION, THERE'S ACTUALLY A, ANOTHER PROPERTY BETWEEN US AND THE CREEK TO THE NORTH, SO WE ARE NOT TOO CLOSE TO THE CREEK, IF YOU WILL. OKAY, NO PROBLEM. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY. AT THIS TIME I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 14. UH, MOVE TO APPROVE. COMMISSIONER ORIAN. COMMISSIONER PECK. I WILL SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER OREN. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PECK. ROLL CALL PLEASE. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. VICE CHAIR P YES. [00:50:01] COMMISSIONER CARRILLO HAY. UM, NO. COMMISSIONER CHRISTOPHER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YEAH. YES. COMMISSIONER DKI APPROVED COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA? YES. AND MADAM CHAIR GONZALEZ? YES. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. FINAL ITEM ON THE AGENDA OR SECOND TO LAST, EXCUSE ME. UH, ITEM NUMBER 17. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. THIS IS CHRISTIE FLORES. ITEM [17. 21-4737 PLAN AMENDMENT CASE PA-2021-11600057 (Council District 2): A request to amend the San Antonio International Airport Vicinity Community Plan by changing the future land use from “Neighborhood Commercial" to "Community Commercial" on the west 180.22 feet of Lot 10, Block 4, NCB 13717, located at 4401 Rittiman Road. Staff recommends Approval.(Associated Zoning Case Z2021-10700153 S) (Mirko Maravi, Senior Planner, (210) 207-0107, mirko.maravi@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)] NUMBER 17 IS A REQUEST TO AMEND THE SAN ANTONIO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT VICINITY COMMUNITY PLAN FROM NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL. THIS IS LOCATED AT 44 0 1 RIMAN ROAD. THERE WERE 26 NOTICES, MAILS NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR. 19 RECEIVED A POST AND NO RESPONSE FROM EAST CARROLL HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE PROPOSED LAND USE AMENDMENT FROM NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL IS REQUESTED IN ORDER TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM TO REASON THE PROPERTY TO C TWO S COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A PRIVATE CLUB. THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL MIXED USE AND THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ACROSS THE STREET. THE PROPOSED COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ALSO ACTS AS A SUITABLE TRANSITION TO THE ADJACENT HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. IT'S ON THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY AND THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL IS APPROPRIATE AS WELL ALONG RUMAN ROAD, WHICH WE KNOW IS A TRAFFIC ARTERIAL ROAD. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE A LIVE CALLER, BUT FIRST I'LL ASK IF THE APPLICANT HAS A PRESENTATION. HIT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE YOURSELF AND THEN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. MR. VANDER GRE OFF. HOLD ON A SECOND. THEY'RE TRYING TO, UH, CALL HIM IN AGAIN. STEPH, WHILE WE ADDRESS THAT, SHOULD WE MOVE TO THE LIVE CALLER OR ARE WE STILL WORKING? SO THAT, THAT ONE ALSO DISCONNECTED? SO WE'RE TRYING TO CONNECT BOTH OF THEM BACK. UM, I GUESS, OH, HERE COMES ONE. SO LET'S SEE. IS THIS, UH, MR. VANDER? GRIFF, IF THAT'S YOU, PLEASE. YOU SAID STAR SIX TO UNMUTE AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND BEGIN YOUR PRESENTATION FOR THE COMMISSION. STAR SIX TO UNMUTE. OKAY. I'M UNMUTED. ALRIGHT, MR. VANDERGRIFF, IS [00:55:01] THAT YOU? YES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND THEN GO AHEAD AND START YOUR PRESENTATION. OKAY. DO WE, I START, UH, MY, UH, PHYSICAL ADDRESS WHERE I LIVE, OR, UH, YOUR BUSINESS ADDRESS IS FINE. MY BUSINESS ADDRESS IS, UH, MY NAME IS, UH, CHRIS VANDERGRIFF. ADDRESS IS 4 4 3 5 REMAN ROAD, SAN ANTONIO. ALRIGHT. GO AHEAD AND START YOUR PRESENTATION. UM, I'M NOT REALLY, I, SO I HAVE A, UH, AN L G B T Q NIGHTCLUB, UH, FOR A COUPLES. UM, WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR A SAFE PLACE THAT WE CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, BE OURSELVES AND PROVIDE, UH, A NICE SAFE PLACE AND PAY CITY TAX MONEY. AND, AND, UH, THIS LOCATION I THOUGHT WAS, UH, ZONE FOR IT WHEN WE ORIGINALLY, UH, UH, STARTED TO, TO, TO OPEN THERE. AND THEN LATER ON, AFTER WE GOT OPEN AND, UH, ALL REMODELED AND LATER ON I FOUND OUT IT WASN'T, THE REZONING WAS TAKEN AWAY. SO THEREFORE, INSTEAD OF RELOCATING, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THIS SPECIAL, UM, PERMIT. OKAY. UM, THE PEOPLE THAT WERE IN THE, THE PEOPLE THAT WERE IN THE LOCATION BEFORE ARE KIND OF, UM, YOU KNOW, LOWER CLASS PEOPLE. AND THE US WITH THE L G B COMMUNITY, WE'RE ALL PRETTY UPPER CLASS PEOPLE AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T CAUSE ANY TROUBLE. SO I FIGURED IT ALSO WOULD BE BETTER FOR THE LOCATION AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. STAFF. UH, DID WE GET THE LIVE CALLER BACK? OKAY. DO I NEED TO MUTE AGAIN OR? YES, PLEASE. MUTE AGAIN. AND THE LIVE CALLER SHOULD BE PATCHED BACK IN AND IT'S STAR, IT'S STAR SIX TO MUTE? NO, JUST, UH, REMAIN. JUST REMAIN ON THE LINE. DON'T WORRY ABOUT MUTING. UM, MA'AM, IF YOU'RE THERE, THE LIVE CALLER HIT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE YOURSELF. SO WE CAN START YOUR, YOU CAN START YOUR TWO MINUTES MA'AM. STAR SIX. MS. TIDWELL. HIT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE YOURSELF SO YOU CAN BEGIN YOUR COMMENTS AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES. OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW. GO AHEAD. OKAY. FANTASTIC. UM, MY NAME IS CHRISTIE TIDWELL. UM, WE HAVE RESIDENCE AT 44 14 MYRNA, WHICH COM BACKS UP TO THE PROPERTY. UM, AS I JUST HEARD, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT OUR FAULT THAT THEY INAPPROPRIATELY GAVE A, UM, UH, A PATH THINKING THEY COULD GET SOMETHING IN THERE THAT SHOULD NOT BE THERE. WE ARE LOAD DENSITY, UH, RESIDENCES, UH, ACROSS THE STREET AS A CHURCH. UH, WE HAVE HAD MANY PROBLEMS WITH NOISE. THERE'S BEEN A SHOOTING, THERE WAS A MURDER WITHIN THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF. WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH TRASH EVERY TIME THEY HAVE THINGS GOING ON THERE IN THE EVENING THAT'S ALL OVER THE STREET, THE PARKING LOT, THE STREET IN FRONT OF OUR HOMES. UM, IF IN FACT THEY ARE ABLE TO DO THIS, IT'S GONNA REDUCE OUR PROPERTY SIGNIFICANTLY. UM, WE HAVE HAD TO CALL CODE COMPLIANCE SEVERAL TIMES FOR PEOPLE BEING BACK THERE. THE NOISE HAS BEEN SO LOUD THAT IT RATTLED THE WINDOWS ON OUR HOUSE. UM, THERE HAS, WITHIN THE PAST FOUR MONTHS BEEN SOMEONE STARTED A FIRE IN THE BACK OF THAT PROPERTY THAT IS FENCED IN AND IT BURNED PART OF MY FENCE AND MY NEIGHBOR'S FENCE SIGNIFICANTLY BURNED. UM, IT'S JUST, UM, A REAL NUISANCE. IT'S, IT'S THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO OUR COMMUNITY. THERE'S A SCHOOL FOUR BLOCKS AWAY. UM, THE ONLY WAY YOU WOULD COULD GET IN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY IS IF YOU COMMUNITY IS, IF YOU WENT AROUND 35, IT WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY HURT OUR COMMUNITY TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF SITUATION GOING ON ON OUR CORNER. AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A MILITARY COMMUNITY. WE'RE SINGLE FAMILY. UM, IT'S OUR KIDS ARE, MY CHILD IS AFRAID TO BE IN THE BACKYARD WHEN THE MUSIC IS SO LOUD AND IN THE PAST WITH THE SHOOTINGS. AND WE HAVE A POLICE REPORT THAT THAT'S TWO MINUTES. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CALLING IN. [01:00:01] UM, PLEASE REMAIN ON THE LINE BOTH TO THE APPLICANT AND TO OUR CALLER. AT THIS TIME. I WILL ASK IF THE APPLICANT HAS ANY, UM, REBUTTAL BEFORE THE SAME QUESTION. QUESTION? YES MA'AM. IF I CO-CHAIR BEFORE YOU GO TO BACK TO THE APPLICANT FOR REBUTTAL UHHUH, UM, IT WOULD BE EASIER IF YOU COULD JUST ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS OF OKAY. THE, UH, CALLER. SO THAT WAY THEN WE CAN EXCUSE THE CALLER FROM THE LINE. OKAY. UM, UH, THE, THE, THE THINGS THAT THE, SHE MENTIONED HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME. HOLD ON. I'M SORRY. MR. VANDER, HOLD ON. MR. VANDERGRIFF, WE'RE GONNA DO QUESTIONS OF MS. TIDWELL AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO YOUR REBUTTAL. SO HOLD ON A SECOND. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. TIDWELL? UH, COMMISSIONER OR I HAVE A QUESTION? YES, SIR. YES, SIR. UH, SO IT, IT, ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UH, USES THAT, UH, UH, THAT ARE LIKE A CLUB OR A BAR OR PLACE THAT'S OPEN REALLY LATE THAT'S NEAR YOUR, UH, NEAR YOUR AREA NOW? UM, I AM NOT AWARE OF DISTANCES BETWEEN THOSE THINGS. I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME POKER PLACE THAT THEY JUST OPENED IN THERE, BUT ALL OF THE PLACES RIGHT NOW THAT'S IN THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THIS THING, IT'S B Y O B AND THEY END UP JUST TRASHING THE PLACE WITH CANS, BOTTLES, THERE'S GLASS BROKEN EVERYWHERE. I TAKE PICTURES OF THE PARKING LOT. IT'S EMBARRASSING TO OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY. YEAH. BUT MY, MY LINE OF QUESTIONING IS JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S IF YOU'RE INTRODUCING A PLACE THAT'S OPEN LATE THAT HAS ALCOHOL PRESENT, UH, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING THOSE USES IN THE AREA ALREADY. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT. IS THIS THE FIRST ONE OR IS THERE OH, YOU KNOW WHAT, I DON'T, DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. , UH, THAT, THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS FOR MS. TWELL? OKAY. HEARING NONE, MS. TIDWELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, FOR CALLING IN AND FOR PREP FOR PROVIDING THOSE COMMENTS. UH, THANK YOU. I WILL DO A, UH, ROLL CALL. UH, COMMISSIONER DKI FOR QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER DKI? YEAH, NO QUESTION FOR ME. OKAY. COMMISSIONER CHRISTOPHER GARCIA. YEAH, I GOT A QUESTION FOR STAFF. IS THERE A ZONING CASE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS AND HAS THIS GONE BEFORE ZONING? YES SIR. THERE IS A ZONING CASE, UH, IT IS COMING UP. IT HAS NOT GONE BEFORE ZONING YET. USUALLY IT'S PLANNING COMMISSION FIRST. OKAY. UH, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, I KNOW SOMETIMES, SOMETIMES IT GETS PUT THE OTHER WAY AROUND, UM, REGARDING THE, WHAT THE CALLER AND A LOT OF THE, THE LETTERS WE GOT WERE ADDRESSED. UH, SOMETIMES, UH, BARS AND CLUBS HA HAVE ISSUES WITH, WITH THE LOUD NOISE AND THE LOUD MUSIC AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF. DO WE KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER OF THOSE KINDS OF VENUES IN THIS, UH, THIS ONE BUILDING THAT MAY BE CONTRIBUTING TO THAT? I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHERS IN THE AREA BASED ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING FROM GOOGLE MAPS. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A SOUTHERN COOKING RESTAURANT, A KEY MAKING PLACE. UH, EVEN MAYBE AT ONE POINT THERE WAS A CHURCH NEARBY, UM, KOREAN BARBECUE, MEXICAN CLOTHES ALTERATIONS, AND THERE IS A FOOD MART, I BELIEVE, ALONG THE FRONT AT ALONG RIMAN ROAD, UM, AT THE END CAP WAY UP IN THE FRONT. UH, BUT NO, WE'RE NOT, I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT. AND THIS IS THE, THE USE ON THIS IS A PRIVATE CLUB. IT, IT IS NOT LIKE A DANCE CLUB OR A NIGHTCLUB. I KNOW THE APPLICANT NOTED THAT, BUT WE HAVE CLARIFIED WITH THEM, UM, YOU KNOW, CLUB IS DEFINED AS PEOPLE COMING TOGETHER TO PURSUE COMMON GOALS. SO, UH, THEY MAY HAVE MUSIC THAT THEY PLAY. FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTAND, THEY'RE PLAYING IT OFF OF A, OF A JUST A STEREO BOX. SO, UH, THOSE MIGHT BE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTAND, THIS WOULD FIT THE ZONING, UH, THE USE, THE LAND USE FOR COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AND THE ZONING PROPOSED IS D TWO S AND JUST FOR THE, THE ONE USE OF THE PRIVATE CLUB. OKAY. UH, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. UH, YOU SEEM TO BE AWARE OF SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT THE, THE NEIGHBORS WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE AND LOUD MUSIC AND STUFF OF THAT NATURE. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE, YOU'VE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, YOU'VE REMODELED IT. HAVE YOU ACTUALLY OPENED AND HAD EVENTS THERE OR YOU, YOU SEEM TO, YOU WERE SAYING HOW, UH, I THINK THE PREVIOUS TENANT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A SOURCE OF [01:05:01] THOSE ISSUES. CAN YOU SPEAK ON THAT? UH, YES. YES. THEY, UH, SO THE PREVIOUS TENANTS WERE A HOOKAH LOUNGE IN WHICH A HOOKAH LOUNGE DOESN'T, DOESN'T NEED THIS SPECIAL PERMIT. A HOOKAH LOUNGE CAN OPEN UP THERE RIGHT NOW AS THE, AS WE SPEAK. AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT CAUSE THE SHOOTING. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT'S GANG ACTIVITY, THEY'RE THE ONES CAUSING ALL THE TRASH IN THE BACK. THEY'RE THE ONES ALL, THEY'RE THE ONES DOING ALL THAT ISSUE. I MEAN, AND THEN SHE MENTIONED THAT MY, MY L G B T IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE AREA, THERE'S A CHURCH, THERE'S L G B T PEOPLE THAT LIVE ALL IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S L GT PEOPLE IN THE, IN THE MILITARY, I'M SORRY THAT SHE'S AGAINST L G B T Q, BUT I MEAN, WE HAVE OUR RIGHTS TO DO OUR THING. WE'RE OPEN AT NIGHT AT NINE NINE AT NINE AT NIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, WEE HOURS IN THE MORNING, TWO TO THREE IN THE MORNING. SO IF SHE, HER SON IS PLAYING OUTSIDE AT THAT TIME, AND BECAUSE OF THE MUSIC, I MEAN, WHEN IT'S A LITTLE LATE FOR A CHILD TO BE OUTSIDE PLAYING, UM, WE, WE PERSONALLY, THERE'S A, A COMPANY THAT COMES AND PICKS UP ALL OF THE TRASH IN THE PARKING LOT. I MEAN, WE'RE, UM, AND LOT OF, A LOT OF, A LOT OF THE MEMBERS THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT JOIN US ARE MILITARY AND FIRST RESPONDERS AND, AND UPPER CLASS PEOPLE. SO THIS ISN'T A NUISANCE. THIS IS JUST US TRYING TO EXPRESS OURSELVES WITH LIKE-MINDED PEOPLE. OKAY. SO HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU BEEN IN OPERATION SO FAR FOR A LITTLE BIT? OR, OR BASICALLY YOU, YOU RENOVATED AND THEN YOU FOUND OUT WHAT WAS YEAH, YEAH. YES, WE HAVE, WE, UH, A LITTLE BIT ON SATURDAYS. WE OPEN A LITTLE BIT ON SATURDAYS TO GET A TEST RUN AND GET THINGS GOING. UM, WE ALSO, OUR MUSIC LEVEL, WE ALSO HAVE A DB READER AND WE READ IT. WE ALSO HAD, UM, VICE COME OUT AND DO A WALKTHROUGH OF OUR FACILITIES. I MEAN, AND, AND THEN AND HEALTH DEPARTMENT WALK IN AND DO, DO, UH, A THING OF FACILITIES. THEY SAY EVERYTHING IS UP TO CODE AND EVERYTHING LOOKS REALLY GOOD. OKAY. SO HOW LONG, WHEN WAS THE TEST RUN? WAS IT, I'M JUST 'CAUSE IT, I'M JUST WANNA SEE WHEN WAS WHAT YOU'RE DOING VERSUS WHAT COLIN WAS SAYING? I DON'T UNDERSTAND. WE, WE'VE BEEN DOING, WE'VE BEEN DOING ABOUT, UH, THREE TEST RUNS A MONTH ON SATURDAY SINCE MARCH. OKAY. TRUE. OKAY. SO WE'VE ACTUALLY, UH, YEAH, SO I MEAN IF ANY MAJOR ISSUES, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD'VE CAME UP AND WE AND ALL OUR NEIGHBORS BEHIND US, PARTICULARLY BEHIND, OH, WE PUT UP A FENCE AS WELL. OKAY. AROUND THE POVERTY. UH, UH, EXCUSE ME. SEE, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE WITH QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER CHRIS GARCIA, DID HE ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS? UH, YES, HE DID. HE DID. OKAY. THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE MAIN THING I JUST WANTED TO SEE. UM, THE OTHER QUESTION I JUST HAVE FOR STAFF IS SOME OF THE, THE COMMENTS REQUIRED THAT THERE MAY BE SPECIAL, UH, ZONING REQUIREMENTS, BUT THAT'S FOR THE ZONING COMMISSION. UH, IF, IF THAT APPLIES. SO THEN, UH, MY QUESTIONS ARE DONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. COMMISSIONER CARILLO HAYNES. THANK YOU. UM, COMMISSIONER GARCIA ASKED MOST OF MY QUESTIONS. I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, WITHIN THIS LAND USE DESIGNATION, UM, ARE THERE RESTRICTIONS FOR OPERATING HOURS OR DOES THAT FALL UNDER ZONING OR, UM, I, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT'S NOT DESIGNATED A NIGHTCLUB PER SE. UM, IT'S A PRIVATE CLUB, BUT THEY'RE OPERATING AS A NIGHTCLUB. AND SO I'M JUST CURIOUS WITH THE PROXIMITY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE DOES THAT FALL? LIKE OPERATING HOURS AND NOISE AND ALL OF THAT. SO THAT WOULD FALL UNDER THE PURVIEW OF DONATING, UH, BECAUSE THEY WERE REQUESTING A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR THAT USE OF A PRIVATE CLUB. UH, THERE ARE CONDITIONS THAT THE ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL CAN CONSIDER INCLUDING HOURS OF OPERATION, UM, ADDITIONAL, UM, I GUESS NOISE ABATEMENT, LIKE A HIGHER FENCE. UM, AND SO THERE ARE CONDITIONS THAT THEY CAN CONSIDER DURING THAT PROCESS. OKAY. SO THERE, THERE IS SOME, SOME, UH, NOT LEEWAY, BUT WHAT AM I TRYING TO SAY? JUST, UM, FLEXIBILITY MORE THAT ZONING CAN IMPOSE. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. UM, WOULD A NIGHTCLUB REQUIRE A DIFFERENT, UH, LAND USE DESIGNATION? YES. UH, ACTUALLY A NIGHTCLUB IS A DIFFERENT USE THAT WOULD, UH, TRIGGER A DIFFERENT ZONING REQUIREMENT. DEPENDING UPON, UM, THE, THE BASE DISTRICT WOULD REQUEST, UM, IT MAY OR MAY NOT, UH, NEED A LAND USE DESIGNATION. BUT BECAUSE OF THE RESTRICTIONS RELATED TO THE CURRENT ZONING AND THE CURRENT LAND USE, I WOULD SAY THAT EVEN IF THEY DID C TWO FOR A NIGHTCLUB, UH, IT WOULD STILL TRIGGER A LAND USE CHANGE. OKAY. BUT IT WOULD, THAT WOULD NOT BE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL? IT WOULD BE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL BECAUSE [01:10:01] REMEMBER YOU'RE LOOKING AT COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL THAT PERMITS C TWO BY RIGHT. BECAUSE IT DOES NOT TODAY. NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ONLY ALLOWS UP TO C ONE. OKAY. OKAY. WELL, I MEAN, I, I DO UNDERSTAND THE, THE STAFF'S APPROVAL AND THE CHANGE IN, IN LAND USE. I, I HATE TO PUNT IT TO ZONING FOR OTHER REASONS. IT WAS, AND, UM, SOUNDS LIKE THEY HAVE FOUND MAYBE A LOOPHOLE IN, UM, THE PRIVATE CLUB VERSUS NIGHTCLUB DESIGNATION. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S UP FOR ZONING I THINK. SO NO, NO FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JACKSON. UH, MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED BY, UH, UH, THE EARLIER COMMISSIONER'S QUESTION. THANK YOU. OKAY, QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER SIEGEL. THANK YOU. UM, I HAVE SOME OF THE SIMILAR QUESTIONS THAT COMMISSIONER CHRISTOPHER GARCIA HAD ABOUT, UM, THE NUISANCE COMPLAINTS AND THE REALLY SAFETY COMPLAINTS THAT THE NEIGHBORS HAVE BROUGHT FORWARD. UM, I, I DON'T, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A CLEAR IDEA OF THE TIMELINE AND WHETHER THOSE THINGS HAPPENED BEFORE THIS CLUB DID THEIR SO-CALLED TEST RUNS OR DURING THEIR, THE LAST, YOU KNOW, FOUR MONTHS SINCE MARCH. UM, CAN YOU, CAN THE APPLICANT SHED SOME LIGHT ON THAT? UH, YES. THIS IS ALL, EVERYTHING WE HAVE THAT THE PERSON MENTIONED WAS WAY BEFORE WE CAME ALONG. AND THE FIRE, I DON'T, WE HAVE THE, WE HAVE THE BACK FENCED OFF SO THE HOMELESS PEOPLE AND OTHER PEOPLE CAN'T GET BACK TO, TO THE BACK OF OUR BUILDING OR THE BACK OF THE RESIDENCE BUILDING. AND THERE HAS NEVER, THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY FIRE IN FOUR MONTHS BACK THERE. UM, WE'VE HAD THAT, WE'VE HAD THAT THING FENCED OFF SINCE MARCH IN THE BACK. UM, WE, I MEAN WE HAVEN'T REALLY, THE ONLY LITTLE INCIDENT THAT WE EVER HAD IS LIKE WHERE WE DID OUR FIRST TEST RUN. THE MUSIC WAS A LITTLE TOO LOUD. UM, WE, UM, WE BOUGHT A DME, WE BOUGHT A A DO DECIMAL READER AND WE GO OUT AND WE CHECK OUTSIDE NIGHTLY. AND WE ALSO HAD THE LOCAL, UM, POLICE DO, UH, SEVERAL TIMES DO A LOCAL DB MEETING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE UNDER THE DB LEVEL WHEN WE HAVE IT ALL TIMES. UM, WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN. WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND, AND KEEP EVERYTHING AND KEEP THE NEIGHBORS HAPPY, KEEP THE CITY HAPPY, KEEP OUR OR, OR, UM, MEMBERS SAFE. UM, AND MENTIONED THEY SAID, LIKE YOU SAID, AND THEN LIKE SHE SAID, SHE, THE STUFF THAT SHE MENTIONED, LIKE A SHOOTING AND ALL THAT STUFF WAS, WAS WHEN IT WAS A HOOKAH LOUNGE AND YOU DON'T EVEN REALLY NEED THE SPECIAL PERMIT TO HAVE A HOOKAH LOUNGE. SO IF I LEFT AT THIS MOMENT, A HOOKAH LOUNGE CAN MOVE RIGHT, RIGHT IN. AND THEY PROBABLY WOULD, THEY COULD MOVE. THEY WOULD MOVE RIGHT IN. AND THAT'S WHEN YOU GET THE GANG ACTIVITY, THAT'S WHEN YOU GET THE, THE, THE, THE LOWER, THE LOWER TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT PARTICIPATE IN THOSE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES. I MEAN, WE DON'T EVEN ALLOW SMOKING INSIDE. SO, UM, LIKE, LIKE I SAID, I, I I, THE, THE TYPE OF QUALITY OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE GOING TO THIS LOCATION OR, OR PEOPLE THAT ARE WITHIN OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR, YEAR. SO THEY HAVE MANNERS, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE CLASS, THEY HAVE, UM, RESPECT FOR OTHERS IN THE CITY. SO I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT AND THEN HER BEHAVIOR STANDARDS. BUT, UM, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WHAT, WHAT STEPS ARE YOU TAKING TO MITIGATE SECURITY CONCERNS AND THE GARBAGE CONCERNS? UM, WE, WE CLEAN THE PARKING LOT DAILY AND THEN THEY, WE ALSO HAVE A OUTSIDE SECURITY AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE, UM, HONESTLY PEOPLE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE MILITARY THAT ARE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THEN THEY DO THEIR BEST TO WATCH OUT FOR US AS WELL. THANK YOU. THAT ANSWERS ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA. UH, NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, VICE CHAIR PECK. UM, MY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER SIEGEL ACTUALLY JUST ASKED THE QUESTION THAT I WAS GONNA ASK ABOUT, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED? UM, THAT WAS MY MAIN QUESTION. UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, BUT JUST A STATEMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST, UH, IN LOOKING AT THIS WE'RE, YOU KNOW, OUR PURVIEW TODAY IS TO IDENTIFY WHETHER, UM, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL IS APPROPRIATE USE ON THE PROPERTY, NOT WHAT THE END USE THAT WE KNOW IS, IS THE PRIVATE CLUB. UM, SO IS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL THE APPROPRIATE USE? I JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DEBATING TODAY. THANK [01:15:01] YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ORY. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE ONE SECOND, YES, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. UH, OKAY. SO FOR STAFF, UH, WHO IS THIS, I'M CURIOUS WHY THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS BEING, UH, IS BEING PROMOTED FOR A, A PLAN AMENDMENT AS WELL AS A ZONING CASE. UM, IS THERE A REASON WHY IT'S NOT ISOLATED TO JUST THIS PARTICULAR SPECIFIC LOCATION IN THE LAW? SO IF THE APPLICANT, SIR, LET ME, LET ME ANSWER THAT. 'CAUSE IT HAS TO DO WITH, UM, WITH THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CASE. SO IF THE APPLICANT WERE TO PURSUE JUST REZONING OF THAT AREA OF THE BUILDING, IT WOULD REQUIRE SOME SORT OF FIELD NOTES OR MEET SOME BALANCE DESCRIPTION BECAUSE YOU CAN'T JUST DESCRIBE IT BY SAYING SUITE 1 0 1 OF THIS ADDRESS. UM, SO THAT CAN BE COSTLY. AND SO INSTEAD OF HAVING TO THOSE ADDITIONAL COSTS, THEY'RE REZONING, UH, THE BUILDING FOR IT BECAUSE IT'S JUST A, A CLEANER WAY OF DESCRIBING THE PROPERTY. OKAY. SO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY YOU'LL STILL SEE THE WHOLE PIECE OF PROPERTY AS OPPOSED TO JUST THAT AREA WHERE THE, UH, PRIVATE CLUB IS IN EXISTENCE AT. OKAY. SO THE, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, IS SO THAT THE SS WOULD APPLY ON ALL OF THE BUILDINGS, NOT JUST THIS ONE SUITE, CORRECT. PAT? IT WOULD APPLY ON THE PROPERTY. HOWEVER, THE SITE PLAN WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE RESTRICTIVE IN THAT IT WOULD BE ONLY, UM, UH, APPLICABLE TO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT THEY INDICATE ON THE SITE PLAN, WHICH IS MUCH SMALLER THAN THE LAND ITSELF. AND THEN YOU HAVE A, AND THEN THE CONVENIENCE STORE ON THE CORNER. SO THEY SELL ALCOHOL THERE. CORRECT. AND, YOU KNOW, YES. SO THE, SO PART OF THE, WHAT I'M SEEING HERE IS, IS THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE A SMALL PIECE. YOU'RE IN, YOU'RE, THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS IS FOR YOU TO PURSUE, YOU KNOW, A A USE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PLAN AMENDMENT CASE ON A PIECE OF IT, BUT TO, TO SAVE, YOU KNOW, A THOUSAND DOLLARS IN FIELD NOTE GENERATION, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CREATING THE POTENTIAL FOR THIS ENTIRE, UH, TRACT OF LAND TO BECOME SOMETHING MUCH MORE THAN IT, THAN IT IS TODAY. AND THAT'S THE LEVEL OF APPROPRIATENESS THAT I'M, I'M NOT A, I'M NOT A FAN OF, UH, ON THIS. UH, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT IF YOU WERE JUST PURSUING YOUR ONE TENANT, BUT BY DOING THIS WHOLE LOT, I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU COULD, THIS COULD POTENTIALLY TURN INTO A YEAR FROM NOW SOMETHING VASTLY MORE THAN WHAT, UM, THE RESIDENTS WERE, WERE EXPECTING. AND I, I, CAN YOU PLEASE COMMENT ON IT? UM, CHAIR, JUST TO, I MEAN, I'M SORRY. UH, COMMISSIONER, THE, AGAIN, JUST TO CLARIFY, THE SITE PLAN WOULD BE RESTRICTED TO THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE CLUB ITSELF. SO EVEN THOUGH THE REST OF THE PROPERTY, IF, IF APPROVED IS ZONED FOR NS, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO OPEN IT UP IN ANY OTHER PART OF THE BUILDING BECAUSE THE SITE PLAN WAS RESTRICTED TO ITS LOCATION. SO LET'S JUST SAY THAT THE BUILDINGS ARE A TOTAL OF 10,000 SQUARE FEET. THEY'RE ONLY LOCATING IN A 3000 SQUARE FEET. THAT'S THE ONLY LOCATION THAT GETS TO OPERATE AS THE PRIVATE CLUB. OKAY. OKAY. YEP. DO WE HAVE, DO YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER OREN? UH, NO. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS? OKAY. HEARING NONE, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 17. THIS COMMISSIONER PKO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. DO I HAVE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER JACKSON. SECOND. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PECK. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON. ROLL CALL PLEASE. VICE CHAIR PECK? YES. COMMISSIONER JACKSON? YES. COMMISSIONER CARILLO HAYNES? NO. COMMISSIONER CHRISTOPHER GARCIA? YES. YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI EPSTEIN. COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA? YES. EXIA ORIAN? NO. AND MADAM CHAIR GONZALEZ? YES. MOTION PASSES. OKAY. FINAL ITEM ON TODAY'S AGENDA [20. 21-4924 Consideration and Approval of the July 14, 2021 Planning Commission Minutes.] IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. DO WE HAVE ANY REVISIONS TO THE MINUTES FROM JULY 14TH? UH, THIS COMMISSIONER P I HAVE A COMMENT ON THE MINUTES. [01:20:01] UM, ITEMS, NO ITEMS. 24 AND 26. BOTH SAY SIX TO ZERO I THINK FOR APPROVAL EVERY DID SOMEBODY LEAVE THE MEETING? 'CAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE WAS SEVEN TO ZERO? YES. COMMISSIONER A BUSTAMONTE LEFT THE MEETING EARLY. OKAY. ANSWERS THAT QUESTION. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR ALMOST CATCHING THAT, SIR. . UM, JUST MAKING SURE. YES, SIR. UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE MINUTES FROM JULY 14TH? I'LL MOTION FOR APPROVAL SINCE I COMPLAINED ABOUT 'EM. , DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. I WOULD ABSTAIN SINCE I WAS NOT AT THE MEETING. OKAY. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PECK. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DKI. COMMISSIONER GARCIA IS ABSTAINING. ROLL CALL PLEASE. VICE CHAIR PECK? YES. COMMISSIONER DKI? YES. COMMISSIONER JACKSON ABSTAIN OR WASN'T AT THE MEETING? I COMMISSIONER HAN? YES. COMMISSIONER CHRISTOPHER GARCIA. I'M GONNA VOTE YES. MAKE SURE THIS MINUTES HAVE ENOUGH YESES TO PASS. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YEAH. UH, COMMISSIONER ORIAN ABSTAIN. I WASN'T THERE. AND MADAM CHAIR GONZALEZ? YES. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CHRISTOPHER GARCIA FOR THAT. OKAY. IT IS 3 0 7 AND I AM ADJOURNING THE MEETING. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME. THANKS EVERYBODY. GREAT DAY. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.