* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:07] ALL RIGHT. THANK [Call to Order ] YOU SO MUCH. GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. UH, IF WE COULD, LET'S HAVE OUR SPANISH TRANSLATION SERVICES STATEMENT. GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, BEFORE WE BEGIN AND ACCORDANCE WITH C E C RECOMMENDATIONS AND FOR THE SAFETY OF ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS, UH, WE STRONGLY INCURRED ALL ATTENDEES TO WEAR MASKS. THERE ARE MASKS AVAILABLE, UH, IF YOU NEED ONE RIGHT HERE AT THE FRONT TABLE, ON TO MY LEFT TO YOUR RIGHT. UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT, NOW WE GET DOWN TO BUSINESS FOR THE FIRST TIME LIVE IN A LONG TIME. MY NAME IS JOHN DANTE AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSIONER OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT FIVE ZONING COMMISSIONER. I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION IN THE SESSION. UM, IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE WE ARE LIVE, WE ARE GOING TO DO A ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT, AND THEN WE WILL GO TO COMMISSIONER MCGEE AND COMMISSIONER. SO, UH, COMMISSIONER BOB, UH, MARCO BAR REPRESENT DISTRICT NINE, INE ROMERO, DISTRICT EIGHT, MARK WHITE, DISTRICT 10. ROB SES, DISTRICT SEVEN, NOT JOHN MUSANTE, DISTRICT FIVE. DALE MCDANIEL. MAYOR , DISTRICT SIX, COMMISSIONER MCGEE. COMMISSIONER MCGEE, DISTRICT THREE AND COMMISSIONER KA. OH, COMMISSIONER KAMATH IS NO LONGER WITH US. OKAY. NOT IN THAT SENSE. HE'S JUST NOT ONLINE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. STAFF. WE HAVE QUORUM. A QUORUM IS PRESENT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. WILL EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. THANK YOU. UH, PRIOR COMMENCING OUR HEARING, I WOULD LIKE OUR STAFF TO REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE, STAFF, IF YOU WOULD, OR STUFF. I CAN DO IT. I GOTCHA. TO INCORPORATE PUBLIC COMMENT. THERE ARE THREE OPPORTUNITIES. PLEASE INCLUDE EMAIL OR MAIL COMMENTS, DROPPING OFF COMMENTS AND LEAVING A VOICEMAIL. STATEMENTS OR COMMENTS RECEIVED ARE PART OF THE OFFICIAL WRITTEN RECORD FOR ITEMS ON INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT'S STAFF WILL PLAY ANY MESSAGE RECEIVED BY VOICEMAIL. SPANISH INTERPRETERS ARE ON STANDBY AS NEEDED. THE APPLICANT WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL WITH A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMM COMMISSION. QUESTIONS MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH AT THIS TIME. STAFF, IF WE COULD GO OVER ANY POSTPONED OR WITHDRAWN ITEMS, PLEASE? YES, SIR. ITEMS ONE AND TWO, ITEM ONE LOCATED AT 6,900 BLOCK OF HOUSEMAN ROAD AND ITEM TWO LOCATED AT 44 4 0 1 RUMAN ROAD ARE POSTPONED AND WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED AT ALL TODAY. THERE WILL BE [Items 1 & 2 ] NO DISCUSSION ON THESE ITEMS WHEN THESE ITEMS ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD. NEW PUBLICATION AND NOTICE WILL BE SENT TO THOSE WITHIN THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA. THANK YOU. STAFF, IF YOU WOULD, COULD YOU GO OVER THE ITEM ON OUR CONSENT BY HEARING NUMBER ONE AGENDA? YES, SIR. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT AT 1 5 0 5 8 NORTH US HIGHWAY 41. ITEM ITEM NUMBER 11 AT 29 0 6 WEST MARTIN STREET, ITEM NUMBER 12 AT 3 0 5 EAST FRENCH PLACE WITH A COMMENT IN SUPPORT PRIOR TO CONSENT. ADOPTION ITEM 18 AT 3,100 NACODOCHES ROAD AND ITEM NUMBER 19, GENERALLY LOCATED AT 37 20 FARM ROAD. MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMISSIONERS, UH, ANYONE HAVE ANY ITEMS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON THE INDIVIDUAL AGENDA OR, UH, COMBINED HEARING NUMBER TWO FOR CONTINUANCES. IF COMMISSIONER MCGEE IS WAVING HER HANDS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. UM, I AM NOT SEEING NONE. UM, SETH, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE READ COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE INTO THE RECORD. I AM NUMBER EIGHT AS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO TO C TWO S WITH SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A PRIVATE CLUB. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 1 5 0 5 8 NORTH US HIGHWAY 2 81. THERE WERE 28 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE [00:05:01] IN OPPOSITION AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM [Items 8, 11, 12, 18, 19 ] ITEM NUMBER 11 WITH A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO TO R TWO. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 29 0 6 WEST MARTIN STREET. THERE WERE 34 NOTICES MAILED. ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND NO RESPONSE FROM PROSPECT HILL OR WEST IN IN ACTION. NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ITEM NUMBER 12 IS A REQUEST TO REZONED FROM OUR SIX A H O D R SIX C D A H O D WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 3 0 5 EAST FRENCH PLACE. THERE WERE 43 NOTICES MAILED. ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. ITEM NUMBER 18 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM OH TWO A H O D TO C TWO A H O D LOCATED AT 3,100 NACODOCHES ROAD. THERE WERE 19 NOTICES MAILED. ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND FOREST OAKS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. AND ITEM NUMBER TWO 19 IS FOR ASSIGNING ZONING TO PROPERTY. GENERALLY LOCATED AT 37 20 FARM ROAD. CURRENTLY OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS BY APPLYING ZONING OVERLAY DISTRICT A H O D AS APPLICABLE. AND R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY ON 25.79 ACRES OUT OF CB 5 1 6 1. THERE WERE 15 NOTICES MAILED. TWO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NINE IN OPPOSITION. AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. AND IF WE COULD NOW PLEASE PLAY THE VOICEMAIL FOR ITEM NUMBER 12. I BELIEVE THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME SPEAKERS IN THE AUDIO THERE. OKAY. UM, OKAY, IF WE CAN GET THE PUBLIC COMMENT THEN, MA'AM, UH, THE PERSON THAT WAS HERE TO SPEAK ON, UH, FRENCH PLACE. HI. MY FAMILY AND I, MY MOTHER AND MY SISTER. WE JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY IN CONSIDERATION AND WE BROUGHT A PHOTO FROM THE 1950S WHEN THE HOUSE WAS BUILT BY MY GRANDMOTHER. FOR YOUR MA'AM, CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND PLEASE STAND A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE. MY NAME IS KATHY ADA AND, UH, MY MOTHER WAS BORN IN THE HOUSE AND, UM, 3 0 5 HAS BEEN OUR FAMILY HOME FOREVER. MY PARENTS WERE MARRIED AT OUR LADY OF SORROWS ON SAINT MARY'S. I WAS BAPTIZED IN THE CHURCH AND, UH, THE HOME IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. PATTA. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? VOICEMAIL, VOICEMAILS. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK FOR FRENCH? PLAY? THAT'S ALL WE HAVE, SIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, IS THERE A MOTION, MR. CHAIR? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ITEMS NUMBER 8 11 12, 18 AND 19. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND THAT MOTION. UH, POLL. COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER DANIEL. I'LL GO WITH COMMISSIONER BOTTLES. UH, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND AND THE MOTIONS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS EIGHT ELEVEN TWELVE, EIGHTEEN AND 19. ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER BOTTLES? YES. COMMISSIONER DOMES. COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. COMMISSIONER KENNETH. COMMISSIONER WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. CHAIR SAMANTHA. AYE. MOTION PASSES WITH APPROVAL. SORRY. NINE TO ZERO. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. IF YOU WERE PRESENT FOR ITEMS 8 11, 12, 18, [00:10:01] AND 19, UH, WE WOULD ASK THAT UNLESS YOU'RE HERE FOR ANOTHER ITEM THAT YOU WOULD LEAVE THIS AREA TO GIVE UP YOUR RECEIPTS FOR PEOPLE WHO MIGHT HAVE BUSINESS BEFORE THIS COMMISSION. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT, STAFF, IF WE COULD, UH, BEGIN WITH COMBINED HEARING NUMBER TWO, OUR CONTINUANCES. YES SIR. AND I'LL READ THESE INDIVIDUALLY. THAT WAY IF THERE WAS ANYONE WHO FAILED TO SIGN IN TO SPEAK, UH, WE CAN ASK TO SEE IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER THREE, THERE'S A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM RMM FOUR A H O D TO RMM FOUR H L A H O D, LOCATED AT 8 28 NEVADA STREET. THERE WERE 37 NOTICES MAILED NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPITE RESPONSE FROM DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY IS IN SUPPORT. MR. CHAIR. OH, THE REQUEST FOR THIS ONE IS A CONTINUANCE TO, UH, SEPTEMBER THE SEVENTH. OKAY. THE REQUEST IS FOR A CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER 7TH. IS ANYONE PRESENT TO [Items 3, 4, 6 ] SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. THIS IS A DISTRICT TWO CASE. UH, COMMISSIONER JONES. MA'AM, YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO PRESS THE MIC WHEN YOU'RE TALKING. YES. UH, THERE ARE MEETINGS SCHEDULED TO DISCUSS THIS FURTHER WITH THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL OFFICER AND SO I MOVE FOR CONTINUANCE, UH, TO SEPTEMBER 7TH. ALRIGHT, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALRIGHT. THERE IS A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER 7TH BY COMMISSIONER JONES WITH SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING HEARING NONE? ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER BOTTLES? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR . AYE. MOTION PASSES WITH APPROVAL FOR CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER 7TH WITH THE VOTE ON NINE TO ZERO. THANK YOU. IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE, WHICH IS ALSO FOR A CONTINUANCE. ITEM NOTE NUMBER FOUR IS A REQUEST TO RESERVE FROM L TO I TWO S WITH THE SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR METAL RECYCLING ENTITY WITH OUTSIDE STORAGE AND OR PROCESSING. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 2218 WEST SOUTH CROSS STREET. THERE WERE 35 NOTICES MAILED. ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, SEVEN RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION. ANA MISSION SAN JOSE AND SOMERSET NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE OPPOSED. THERE WAS A PETITION IN SUPPORT SIGNED BY 292 PERSONS. THERE WAS A PETITION IN OPPOSITION SIGNED BY SEVEN INDIVIDUALS AND THERE WERE EIGHT NOTICES OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET RECEIVED IN SUPPORT. THIS ITEM IS REQUESTED FOR A CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER THE SEVENTH AND THERE ARE VOICEMAILS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, UH, THAT WE WILL GLADLY PASS ON TO THE SEPTEMBER 7TH MEETING DATE. THANK YOU. UH, WE ARE GOING TO LIST THOSE VOICEMAILS AND KEEP THEM FOR THE SEPTEMBER 7TH DATE. IS ANYONE PRESENT HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? IT WILL BE CONTINUED AND REHEARD ON SEPTEMBER 7TH. SEEING NONE, THIS IS A MR. FIVE CASE, SO IT COMES TO ME. UM, WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. UH, I'M GOING OUT TO VISIT THE SITE, SO I'M GOING TO MOVE FOR CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER 7TH. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND. ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA GO WITH COMMISSIONER SITES ON THAT ONE. THERE'S A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE SEPTEMBER 7TH BY ME. UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SIPES. STAFF BOTH ALL VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER DOLANS? YES. COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER BOTTLES? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. CHAIR BUS. AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR APPRO FOR APPROVAL FOR CONTINUANCE TO [00:15:01] SEPTEMBER 7TH WITH A VOTE OF NINE TO ZERO. THANK YOU. IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, WHICH IS ALSO A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE. I IS ON CONTINUED SOCKET. ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX H A H O D TO I DZ. ONE H A H O D WITH USE PERMITTED FOR THE RE DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 5 0 7 HAY STREET. THERE WERE 22 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR. THREE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION. NO RESPONSE FROM DIGNITY HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. FIVE INDIVIDUALS OUTSIDE 200 FEET ARE OPPOSED. THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY IS OPPOSED AND ONE INDIVIDUAL OUTSIDE 200 FEET IS IN FAVOR. THIS ITEM IS REQUESTED FOR A CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER THE SEVENTH. MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. IS ANYONE PRESENT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ITEM NUMBER SIX. HEY, THREE. SEEING NONE. THIS IS A DISTRICT TWO CASE. UH, COMMISSIONER JONES? YES, AGAIN, UH, UH, MEETINGS ARE SET UP TO DISCUSS THIS WITH THE DEVELOPER. UM, AND SO I THEREFORE MOVE THAT WE, UH, CONTINUE TO SEPTEMBER THE SEVENTH. THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, THIS TIME THERE'S A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER 7TH WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UM, ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER BOTTLES? UH, YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER S SIPES? YES. CHAIR SLANDA. AYE. MOTION PASSES WITH APPROVAL FOR A CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER 7TH WITH A VOTE AT 90 ZERO. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT, STAFF, I BELIEVE WE'RE ONTO OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING. IF WE COULD BEGIN WITH THE FIRST ITEM ON THAT. ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO SS WITH SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A HOTEL TALLER THAN 35 FEET TO C THREE. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED IN THE 6,300 BLOCK OF NORTHWEST LUKE FOUR 10. THERE WERE 25 NOTICES MAILED. NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM THUNDERBIRD HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION STAFF FINDS EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE PROPOSED C THREE WOULD INTRODUCE ADDITIONAL IMPACT [5. 21-5096 (Continued from 07/20/21) ZONING CASE Z-2021-10700138 (Council District 7): A request for a change in zoning from "C-2 S MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD" Commercial Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District with a Specific Use Authorization for a Hotel Taller than 35 Feet to "C-3 MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD" General Commercial Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District on 2.467 acres out of NCB 15038, located in the 6300 Block of Northwest Loop 410. Staff recommends Denial with an Alternate Recommendation. (Michael Pepe, Senior Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department) (Associated Plan Amendment PA-2021-11600051) ] IMPACTS AND TRAFFIC IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING. THE CURRENT C TWO S IS APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED C THREE WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS LOCAL STREET STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF C TWO CD COMMERCIAL WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR MOTOR VEHICLE REPAIR, A SITE PLAN WOULD BE NEEDED TO BE SUBMITTED FOR CONSIDERATION. MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. UH, IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JONATHAN SCOTT AND I'M REPRESENTING, UH, THE CLIENT FOR ALAMO TRUCK YEAR. UH, ON BEHALF OF THE ARCHITECT, STEVEN JAKE GRAHAM, ARCHITECTURE AND DESIGN, OUR ADDRESS IS, UH, 4,900 OAK, UH, HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. IF YOU WOULD, SIR, PLEASE TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROJECT. UH, WE'VE BEEN, UH, IN DISCUSSIONS WITH, UH, UH, COUNCILWOMAN TANDO LA'S, UH, OFFICE FOR ZONING AS WELL AS WITH, UH, MICHAEL HERE AT THE CITY. UM, IN REGARDS TO THE ZONING, WE DID, UH, TRY TO, UH, REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM A C C TWO SS TO A C THREE. UH, AT THE LAST, UH, HEARING, UH, AFTER CONSULTING WITH, UH, UH, MICHAEL AND, UH, FRANK, UH, WE, WE WILL, UH, ACCEPT THE C TWO CD WITH RESTRICTIONS, UM, ON THE, UH, AUTO REPAIR. UM, OBVIOUSLY STILL WE'RE STILL, UH, DISCUSSING ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS AND OR REQUIREMENTS WITH, UH, UH, COUNCILMAN'S ON THE WINE'S OFFICE, UH, AND STILL CONSULTING WITH, UH, MICHAEL AS WELL IN REGARDS TO WHAT THE FUTURE STEPS, UM, WOULD BE. UH, I GUESS THE MAIN CONCERN THAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY WAS SIMPLY, UH, THAT THE CLIENT AND OR THE CUSTOMER, UH, WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO MORE OR LESS WHAT, UH, THEY WERE WANTING TO DO AND REALLY DIDN'T WANNA HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH, UH, THE CITY FROM THE GET GO. SO WE JUST WANTED MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE COVERING OUR, UH, OUR, UH, OUR TRACKS AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING WAS DONE THE WAY IT WAS SUPPOSED TO. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU STAFF. ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS TIME? IS, IS ANYONE PRESENT TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? WE WERE AWARE THAT THE, UH, PRESIDENT OF THE H O A FOR THUNDERBIRD HILLS DID WANNA SPEAK WITH US. UM, WE TRIED SETTING UP, UH, AN APPOINTMENT THAT HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL AS OF YET, BUT WE ARE WILLING TO SIT WITH THEM. VERY GOOD, THANK YOU. NO, SIR, WE DON'T HAVE ANY VOICEMAILS. SORRY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS IS A DISTRICT SEVEN CASE, UH, COMMISSIONER SIPES. YES. UM, AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH THE, UH, THE COUNCIL OFFICE ON, ON THOSE ITEMS. UM, AND AT [00:20:46] AND AT THIS TIME, I, I GUESS THE ONLY QUESTIONS I HAVE, UM, AND, AND YOU ALLUDED TO THEM, UM, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT YOU'RE OKAY WITH, UH, SOME OF THE CONDITIONS THAT, THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED. AND THOSE ARE NO OUTDOOR AMPLIFICATION, CORRECT? UM, SOME HOURS OF OPERATION? CORRECT. UM, UH, THOSE WOULD BE 7:30 AM TO 6:00 PM I BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS THE TIMEFRAME THAT WE HAD, UH, OKAY. SPOKEN ABOUT WITH FRANK? YES. OKAY. AND, UH, AND NO BANNERS OR TEMPORARY? NO, UH, ONE OF THE, UH, COMMENTS THAT WE DID DISCUSS WITH HIM WAS ON SIGNAGE AND, AND OR LIGHTING SIMPLY BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED KIND OF IN A PRIME LOCATION TO ADVERTISE THEIR BUSINESS. UM, ON OUR SITE PLAN, OR AT LEAST, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S NOTED ON THERE, WE DO HAVE A, A TALL SIGN, BUT, UH, WE DID, WE DID, UH, CLARIFY THAT WITH, UH, FRANK AND WE'LL BE LOCATING IT ON THE OTHER SIDE WHERE IT WOULD BE ALLOWABLE AND STILL BE VISIBLE, UM, AS WELL AS THE SIGNAGE THAT WILL BE INCLUDED ON BUILDING ITSELF. SO YES, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE. YES. GREAT. AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER ONE WAS, UM, A LANDSCAPE BUFFER BETWEEN THE, THE RESIDENTIAL USES? CORRECT. WE DO HAVE A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT ON THE TEAM, UH, THAT WILL BE, UH, HELPING WITH, UH, THE LANDSCAPE DESIGN IN GENERAL. UH, ALONG THE BACK OF THE BUILDING YOU CAN NOTICE THAT WE DO HAVE A DRIVE, WHICH IS 30 FEET SET BACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE ITSELF. UM, WE WILL TRY TO INCORPORATE AS MUCH, UH, LANDSCAPE IN GENERAL TO TRY AND ADD ADDITIONAL BUFFER, UH, TO THE PROPERTY AS WELL. VENTING, UH, ALONG THE OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY WILL, WILL BE COVERED AT OR SLOTTED. SO YOU CAN'T SEE INWARD, UH, PRIVACY OF THE RESIDENCE BEHIND THE PROPERTY IS ALSO OF THE MOSTS IMPORTANT TO US. UM, AS, AS WELL AS AS IT'S FOR THEM. ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU. UH, THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SIPES, UH, COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS. LOOKING TO MY LEFT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING TO MY UP. COMMISSIONER DANIEL, JUST A QUICK QUESTION. I UNDERSTAND A BIT MORE ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS AND IS THE REPAIR, ARE THESE COMMERCIAL TRUCKS JUST REGULAR? UH, THIS IS A, THEY CALL IT A NUTS AND BOLTS, UH, SHOP. SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY ARE IS, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE A COMPANY THAT MODIFIES, UH, TRUCKS. UM, SO FLEET VEHICLES, FOR INSTANCE, I THINK THEY'VE DONE WORK FOR THE SEA BEFORE. THEY'LL PUT THE VINYL STICKERS ON 'EM, LIGHTS, UH, BUMPERS, BRUSH GUARDS, UH, TIRES, RIMS, THINGS LIKE, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO ESSENTIALLY LIKE, UH, ACCESSORIES FOR, UH, TRUCKS. OKAY. AND IS MOST OF THAT WORK DONE WITHIN THE GARAGE OR SHOP BUILDING? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEY, THEY DO ALSO HAVE A RETAIL AREA UP IN THE, OR SHOWROOM UP IN THE FRONT AS WELL. FRONT AS WELL, SO, OKAY. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. YES, SIRAM. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ANY COMMISSIONERS TO COMMISSIONER? THANK YOU. QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. UH, YOU SAY TRUCKS TALKING PICKUP TRUCKS, FREIGHT TRUCKS, 18 WHEELS. WHAT? UH, MOST, MOSTLY THE TYPES OF VEHICLES THAT, THAT THEY'VE BEEN SERVICING ARE, UH, TRUCKS NOT HEAVY, NOT HEAVY TRUCKS IN PARTICULAR, SO PICKUP TRUCKS, LIKE PICKUP TRUCKS, UM, SUBURBANS, THOSE TYPES OF VEHICLES. UM, THEY, THEY DO HAVE, OR THEY HAVE, UH, WORKED ON IN THE PAST CONVERSIONS OF, UH, LARGER, HEAVY, NOT WELL, LARGER TRUCKS IN GENERAL, NOT NECESSARILY HEAVY DUTY TO CONVERT THEM TO FLATBEDS. UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, FOR THE MOST PART, THEIR BUSINESS IS, UH, UH, UTILITY, UH, VEHICLES, TRUCKS, PICKUP TRUCKS, SUBURBANS, UH, SUVS, UM, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. MR. MR. WRIGHT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MCGEE? ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, UH, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR STAFF. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED. IS THAT SUFFICIENT FOR THE PURPOSES OF TODAY AND GOING FORWARD? YES, SIR. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'LL GO BACK TO COMMISSIONER SIPES FOR A MOTION AND DISCUSSION. OH, SORRY. AND, UH, IF MR. SIPES, WHEN YOU, UH, STICK THE CONDITIONS IS, IF YOU COULD BE AS SPECIFIC AS POSSIBLE, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THEM THERE. UH, JUST WE NEED A, THE SPAN FOR, FOR THE DATES OF OPERATION AND ALL OF THAT. AND IF SUNDAY'S NOT INCLUDED, SAY SUNDAY'S NOT INCLUDED, [00:25:03] LEMME ASK THE APPLICANT. ONE MORE QUESTION. ON THE HOURS OF OPERATION, WERE THOSE, UH, MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY OR DID THEY INCLUDE SUNDAY OR, OR WAS THAT EVERY DAY? I BELIEVE THAT THEY DO NOT WORK ON SUNDAYS. UH, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I'D HAVE TO CONFIRM WITH THEM, BUT, UH, FOR NOW I WOULD PROBABLY SAY MONDAY OR FRIDAY OR SATURDAY. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU, UH, TO YOU COMMISSIONER S SIPES FOR A MOTION AND DISCUSSION. ALRIGHT. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE FOR APPROVAL OF THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF C TWO CD, UM, WITH THE FOLLOWING, UH, CONDITIONS, UM, NO OUTDOOR AMPLIFICATION, HOURS OF OPERATION OF 7:30 AM TO 6:00 PM UH, MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY. UM, NO BANNERS OR TEMPORARY SIGNS AND, AND AND WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, THOSE LITTLE WIGGLY THINGS. I'M, I'M TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO WHEN THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. NOT, NOT THE PERMANENT POLE SIGNAGE. WE'RE NOT, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. NO. THE SIGNAGE THAT THEY'LL BE PROVIDING WILL BE A FIXED SIGN, UH, EITHER ON THE, THE FACE OF THE BUILDING AND OR ON A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF. YES. AND THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. AND THEN THE, UH, LAST ONE IS, UH, LANDSCAPE BUFFERING IN THE AREAS ADJACENT TO A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. DO YOU HAVE A DISTANCE REQUIREMENT ON THAT LANDSCAPE? BUFFERING? THEY'RE ALREADY REQUIRED TO HAVE 15 FEET. WE ARE PROVIDING 30. OKAY. WE'LL DO 30. THERE YOU GO. WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE PROVIDING 30 SIMPLY FOR THE, WELL THE SITE PLAN, TAKING OFF THE, THE, THE SCREEN. BUT WE'RE PROVIDING 30 SIMPLY BECAUSE THERE'S A DRIVE THAT GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND, UH, THE BUILDING, WHICH WILL ALSO SERVE FOR, UH, FIRE, UH, FIRE TRUCK, UH, EXIT AS WELL. UM, AS FAR AS THE BUFFERS GO, UH, WE ARE ALSO WILLING TO CONSULT WITH YOU GUYS IN REGARDS TO ADDITIONAL, UH, LANDSCAPING THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED, UM, IF ANYTHING, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE UH, ENOUGH, UH, TURNING RADIUS AND OR SPACE FOR, FOR CAR TO DIRECT THROUGH. YES, OF COURSE. RECORD. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UH, THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION WITH CONDITIONS AS STATED ON THE RECORD. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND THAT. MR. CHAIRMAN. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AND WITH A SECOND, UH, DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONERS STARTING TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONERS. LOOKING TO MY LEFT DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER MCGEE? ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALRIGHT. UH, SEEING, HAVING NO DISCUSSION. ROLL CALL. YES. STAFF. I NEED ONE CLARIFICATION. I BELIEVE THERE WAS AN NA IN THAT THE APPLICANT STATED A C TWO N A C D BUT WHEN THE MOTION WAS MADE, IT ONLY SAID C TWO C. ALRIGHT, WELL WE WILL ADD IN A, THE MOTION. I'LL AMEND THAT. OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT. THE MOTION'S BEEN MADE. COMMISSIONER REBUTS SAYS THE SECOND. DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT AMENDMENT? YES SIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT. THERE IS A MOTION FOR, UH, THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL OF THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION WITH THE INCLUSION OF NA AND THE CONDITIONS AS READ ON THE RECORD. THERE IS A SECOND. THERE HAS BEEN NO DISCUSSION. THERE IS NO DISCUSSION. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. CAN YOU CLARIFY THE CONDITIONAL USE PLEASE? MOTOR VEHICLE REPAIR. MOTOR VEHICLE REPAIR. THANK YOU. I WAS TRYING TO THANK YOU. BE SPECIFIC AS REQUIRED. OKAY, COMMISSIONER? YES. YES. COMMISSIONER BOTTLES? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. UH, SO IT'S APPROVAL, THE MOTION IS APPROVED WITH THE VOTE [00:30:01] OF NINE TO ZERO AND IT'S APPROVED AS AMENDED C TWO N A C D WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE REPAIR WITH THE CONDITIONS OF NO OUTDOOR AMPLIFY HOURS OF OPERATION MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, 7:30 AM TO 6:00 PM 30 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL. UH, NO TEMPORARY SIGNAGE, NO BANNERS OR WAIVERS. PENANCE. THAT CONCLUDES THAT. ALRIGHT. UH, AND IT IS IN WELL. ALRIGHT, STAFF IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, WHICH I BELIEVE IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A REQUEST TO REZONED FROM R 20 TO NP 10 WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. [7. 21-4993 ZONING CASE Z-2021-10700155 (Council District 7): A request for a change in zoning from "R-20 NCD-3 MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Ingram Hills Neighborhood Conservation Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District to “NP-10 NCD-3 MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD" Neighborhood Preservation Ingram Hills Neighborhood Conservation Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District on the west 100 feet of Lot 42, Block E, NCB 11541, located at 904 Oakwood Drive. Staff recommends Approval. (Mirko Maravi, Senior Planner (210) 207-0107, mirko.maravi@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department) ] LOCATED AT 9 0 4 OAKWOOD DRIVE. THERE WERE 17 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION. AND INGRAM HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. THE CURRENT R 20 IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED N P 10 WOULD ALLOW DEVELOPMENT OF A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING ON A 13,900 SQUARE FOOT. LOT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT FOR ITEM NUMBER SEVEN? AND IF YOU WOULD YEAH, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIRMAN, UH, MEMBERS OF COMMISSION. MY NAME'S GON DOLS, I'M, UH, REPRESENTING THE KLAN. I'M D REEVES ENGINEERING. MY ADDRESS IS 52 50 CALLAHAN ROAD, SAN ANTONIO, 7 2 2 8. UM, THE REZONING OF THIS, UH, PARCEL IS HER PARENTS OWN THE ENTIRE ONE LOT. THIS PIECE OF 13,900 FEET WAS PETITIONED OFF BY, BY NATHAN BOUND SEVERAL YEARS AGO. UH, BASICALLY, UH, THEY WOULD LIKE TO PARTITION OFF THIS PIECE IN ORDER FOR HER DAUGHTER TO LIVE NEXT DOOR AND, AND BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY, UH, STRUCTURE. SHE'S HERE, MR. STREETS IS HERE TODAY SO SHE CAN, UH, SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PROJECT. PROJECT. HI, I'M ANDREA THERESE. UM, AND MY PARENTS PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AT 9 0 2 OAKWOOD, UH, LAST OCTOBER. AND THE HOPES THAT I WOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD NEXT DOOR TO THEM. THEY'RE RETIRED AND I WORK IN THE MEDICAL CENTER AT UC HEALTH AND I AM THEIR PRIMARY CAREGIVER. SO I'D LIKE TO BE VERY CLOSE, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE. SO I WAS IN, UH, TALKS WITH THE INGRAM HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT, UH, TO GET HIS BLESSING. AND, UH, WE'VE TALKED TO THE NEIGHBORS AROUND US AND THEY SEEM TO BE ABORTED AS WELL. AND WE'RE HOPING THAT YOU ARE TOO. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO US. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY MA'AM, CAN YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? MY CURRENT ADDRESS IS 4 9 3 0 ROLLING FIELD DRIVE 7 8 2 2 8. THANK YOU MR. GONZALES. AND MS, IF YOU'D STAY AROUND HERE IN CASE THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS. UH, IS ANYONE PRESENT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM IN THE HEARING ROOM? SEEING NON STAFF? I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE A VOICEMAIL. IF YOU COULD PLAY THE VOICEMAIL NOW, PLEASE. HI, EVENING. MY NAME IS, MY TELEPHONE NUMBER IS TWO FOUR THREE TWO FIVE NINE SIX FOUR. MY ADDRESS IS 9 4 0 4 7. ANTONIO ZIP CODE? 7 8 2 2. THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO CASE NUMBER 7 1 5 5 AND I VOTE AGAINST THE OPPOSED TO APPROVING THE OF THAT PROPERTY, UM, ACROSS ON THE LOCK NUMBER 42. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, STAFF, ANY FURTHER VOICEMAILS? ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE. SEEING NONE. UM, MR. GONZALEZ AND MSRE, IF YOU'D LIKE ANY REBEL? NO, I THINK, UH, I, MY OFFICE IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK THAT THE PROJECT, UH, FITS WITHIN THE, THE, THE, UH, CONDITIONS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S A LARGE LOT, 13,900 SINGLE FAMILY HOME. UH, SHE'S GONNA BUILD A NICE HOME TO TAKE CARE OF HER PARENTS, I THINK. UH, AND WE, UH, ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES, . UM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT YOU COULD TELL BY THAT ONE PICTURE THAT WAS PUT UP THERE THAT AT THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY THERE ARE TWO LARGE, UH, OLD GROWTH OAK TREES THAT ARE GORGEOUS. AND I THINK THE NEIGHBORS MIGHT BE CONCERNED THAT ANY CONSTRUCTION WOULD TAKE AWAY THE BEAUTIFUL TREES BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY GORGEOUS IN THAT AREA. AND, UH, I TEACH ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE. THERE'S NO WAY ON EARTH I WOULD TOUCH A LEAF ON THOSE TREES. SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. ALRIGHT, THIS IS A DISTRICT SEVEN CASE, UH, COMMISSIONER S SIPES FOR QUESTIONS, [00:35:37] QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I ACTUALLY HAVE NO QUESTIONS, BUT I DO WANNA, UH, THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THOSE, THOSE, THOSE TREES. UM, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SYS, UH, ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMERS ON MY LEFT? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER ON MY RIGHT? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. UH, THE VOICEMAIL DID, WERE YOU ABLE TO SPEAK WITH THAT PERSON TO, BECAUSE I, I DIDN'T HEAR THE REASON FOR THE OBJECTION. I JUST HEARD AN OBJECTION. NO, AND I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THE NAME EITHER. SO IT'S NOT ANYONE IN ANY OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND THAT'S WHY I ASSUMED MAYBE IT WAS IN REGARDS TO THE TREES BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE 9 0 2 OAKWOOD PROPERTY HAS MANY BIG BEAUTIFUL TREES AND THEN THAT PORTION IN 9 0 4 HAS THE TWO BIG ONES. SO I THINK I, I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT IF IT WERE ME. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JONES. UH, COMMISSIONER MCGEE, ANY QUESTIONS? AND I CAN SEE YOU NOW, SO YOU CAN JUST SHAKE YOUR HEAD. , NO QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONER MCGEE. ALRIGHT, UH, TO YOU COMMISSIONER SIPES FOR A MOTION AND DISCUSSION. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. SECOND, WE SECOND THAT. OKAY. THERE WAS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AND I GOT COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER ROMELL AS THE SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER ON MY RIGHT? COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER GEE. ALRIGHT. NO DISCUSSION. STAFF ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER DOMES? YES. COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER BOTTLES? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. AYE. MOTION PASSES WITH APPROVAL. NINE TO ZERO. THANK YOU MR. GONZALES AND MS. GOOD LUCK. UH, STAFF, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH I BELIEVE IS ITEM NUMBER NINE. ITEM NUMBER NINE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO R SIX CD WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 1502 WEST THOMPSON PLACE, THERE WERE 25 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM THOMPSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE CURRENT R SIX IS APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE APPROPRIATE SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED R SIX CD MAINTAINS THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT AND THE CD CONDITIONAL USE ALLOWS CONSIDERATION OF THREE DWELLING UNITS PER A PRESCRIBED SITE PLAN. THE SITE PLAN IS APPROPRIATE FOR AN INCREASE IN PERMITTED DENSITY AS IT IS ON A CORNER WITH GOOD VEHICULAR ACCESS. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. MR. CHAIR. [9. 21-4990 ZONING CASE Z-2021-10700157 CD (Council District 5): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 MLOD-2 MLR-1 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District to "R-6 CD MLOD-2 MLR-1 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District with Conditional Use for three (3) dwelling units on Lot 9 and North 138 Feet of Lot 10, Block 1, NCB 11305, located at 1502 West Thompson Place. Staff recommends Approval. (Michael Pepe, Senior Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department) ] CHAIR? THANK YOU. UH, IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT FOR THIS ITEM? YES. OKAY. IF YOU WOULD, SIR, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US ABOUT THE ESTONIAN REQUEST. OOPS, SORRY. WE NEED TO HAVE THE, WE'RE ASKING FOR THE CONDITIONAL REQUEST. UH, THE PROPERTY'S BEEN IN THIS STATE OF USE SINCE 2007. THE REAR TENANT, UH, HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR 12 YEARS, SO WE'VE BEEN UTILIZED, IT'S BEEN BEING UTILIZED AS THAT FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET THE PROPER CONDITIONAL TO THE ZONING. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MR. FLYNN. UH, STAY CLOSE, UH, STAFF, I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS FROM THE ROOM, SO IF YOU COULD CALL THEM, I THINK I CAN SUMMARIZE IT BRIEFLY, WHICH IS, UH, SINCE 2007, THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN USED FOR THREE DIFFERENT, UH, HAVE, UH, THREE DIFFERENT, UH, HOUSING OPTIONS AND THEY'RE TRYING TO BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE, UH, REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING RULES. I'LL ASK THAT QUESTION SOON, BUT IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS, YOU CAN COME UP AND, AND TELL US WHY YOU OPPOSE IT. THANK YOU. YES, GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M GLORIA CORVO, 5 38 WEST BEDFORD, AND I DON'T KNOW IF I UNDERSTOOD THE LADY CORRECTLY. DID SHE SAY THAT SHE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY OPPOSITION? [00:40:01] ONE WAS MAILED IN AND ALSO THE THOMPSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SENT SOMETHING IN OPPOSING THIS REZONING. OKAY. I'LL INQUIRE THAT FROM STAFF, BUT RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT HAVE THAT INDICATION. SO MA'AM, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE QUOTE ANOTHER CONTINUE. OKAY, SIR. UH, WE OPPOSE THE, UH, THIS REZONING AS IT WAS EXPLAINED TO US, WAS THAT, UH, THE OWNER HAS A DWELLING IN THE BACKYARD AND THAT HE WASN'T ALLOWED AND HE, SO HE WANTS TO REZONE IT SO THAT HE CAN HAVE THE THREE UNITS THERE FOR RENT. THE THING IS ONE, OURS IS A VERY SMALL RESIDENTIAL AREA. IT CONSISTS OF FOUR, UM, STREETS, MAINLY ACADEMY BEDFORD PLED AND EMERSON. THERE ARE HOMES INDIVIDUALLY BUILT. WE WERE NEVER PART OF A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AS IN OTHER PARTS. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT THAT WAY BECAUSE WE FEAR THAT THIS REZONING, THIS NEW OWNER OR WHOEVER WILL EVENTUALLY SELL IT AND THEN WILL HAVE APARTMENTS BUILT THERE. THAT OUR FEAR ALSO, UH, THE DWELLING THAT HE HAS IN THE BACKYARD, IT USED TO BE A STORAGE ROOM. IT WASN'T, UM, OCCUPIED, IT WASN'T RENTED, AND IT'S STILL SMALL, IT'S STILL THE SAME SIZE. NOTHING WAS ADDED TO IT. NOW THIS GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE HERE, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG HE HAS OWNED THE PROPERTY. I DON'T KNOW THAT I HEARD THAT. UH, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY OFFERS OF BUYING THAT PROPERTY HE HAS RECEIVED OR IS HE AN INVESTOR AS WE'RE GETTING LETTERS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OFFERING TO BUY OUR PROPERTY. THIS IN JULY, I RECEIVED THREE OFFERS IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. I HAVE RECEIVED A WHOLE BUNCH OF THEM. THANK YOU MA'AM. THAT WAS NO, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. OH, I HAD TWO MINUTES. YES MA'AM. I THOUGHT I HAD 10. NO MA'AM. OKAY. ALRIGHT, SIR. SO THAT'S OUR OPPOSITION TO IT. IT WAS THE STORAGE ROOM AT ONE TIME AND IT'S RESIDENTIAL AREA. WE DO NOT WANT THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING APARTMENTS BUILT THERE. THANK YOU MS. CORONADO. ALRIGHT. UM, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. CORELLO? COMMISSIONERS? NONE. UH, MS. DOMINGUEZ IS, IS THAT YOU? YES, MA'AM. PLEASE COME UP. WE'RE ALL, WE'RE ALL TRYING TO GET USED TO THE NEW STATUS QUO. SO MS. DOMINGUEZ, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS. OKAY. MY NAME IS EVA DOMINGUEZ. I LIVE ON ACADEMY AND I RECEIVED THE LETTER STATING THAT IT WANTED TO BE CHANGED TO THREE UNITS. IT'S, IT'S ALREADY A DUPLEX AND, UH, THEY TAKE YOU TO THREE UNITS. THERE'S MORE LOTS AROUND THAT AREA THAT I'M ALMOST SURE THAT WOULD TAKE TO THREE UNITS. WE DO NOT NEED APARTMENTS IN THE SMALL AREA AND IT BRINGS A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE AND IT, IT, IT, UH, IT'S BAD ENOUGH AS IT IS AND I PROTEST THAT. AND, UM, IF NEEDED, I'LL GET A PETITION FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO PROTEST IT. AND, UH, WE DO NOT WANT THREE UNITS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND I HOPE THAT THE CITY WILL LISTEN TO PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED THERE MYSELF FOR 60 SOME YEARS FOR SOME INTRUDER FROM MAYBE ANOTHER CITY COME AND INVEST BECAUSE OF THE PORT SAN ANTONIO THAT'S CLOSED THERE. THEY WANNA BUILT A UNIT, THEY WANNA BUILD APARTMENTS. THEY KEEP ASKING ME FOR MY VACANT LOT THAT I HAVE ON ACADEMY STREET. THEY OFFER ME MONEY FROM HOUSTON, FROM DOLLARS FROM AUSTIN. AND THAT'S ONLY INVESTORS. THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED IN SAN ANTONIO. THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED IN OUR AREA. SO I PROTEST. THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. DOMINGEZ. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. DOMINGUEZ? COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU MR. DOMINGUEZ. ANY OTHER, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? THAT'S ALL I HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, SIR. ANYONE ELSE PRESENT TO SPEAK ON THIS TIME? MR. FLYNN? YOU'LL GET TWO MINUTES OF REBUTTAL. [00:45:02] I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS. PLEASE. UM, WE ARE NOT ASKING TO REZONE THIS. WE'RE ASKING FOR CONDITION USE AS IT ALREADY IS AND HAS BEEN USED WITH A THREE UNIT COMPLEX AS PER GOOGLE MAPS YOU, WHICH IS 2007. THAT'S 2007 GOOGLE MAPS. YOU CAN SEE THE BACK UNIT IS ALREADY IN PLACE. WE HAVE RECORD OF UM, UH, LEASE AGREEMENTS GETTING BACK 12 YEARS. SO THERE HAS BEEN THREE UNITS ON THIS PROPERTY FOR QUITE SOME TIME. WE HAVE NO INTEREST IN DOING THE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT ON THIS. UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ZONING MAP DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET, THERE'S O TWO ZONING. WE HAVE MULTI-FAMILY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CHURCH AND WE HAVE COMMERCIAL, UH, ADJACENT TO IT ON PEBBLE STREET. SO THANK YOU MR. FLYNN. IF YOU STAY CLOSE, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU. UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE K, SO IT DOES COME TO ME. MR. FLYNN, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WAS ASKED WAS, WHEN DID YOU PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY? WE PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY IN JUNE, NO, IT WAS THE, IT WAS MAY. OKAY. SO YOU'VE OWNED THIS PROPERTY FOR APPROXIMATELY THREE MONTHS? YES SIR. AT MOST. UM, WHEN DID YOU DISCOVER THAT IT WAS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH IMMEDIATELY. OKAY. AND SO YOU BEGAN THIS PROCESS TO BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE WITH REGULATIONS? YES SIR. OKAY. UM, ALRIGHT. AND I BELIEVE YOU MENTIONED THE TENANT IN THE BACK? YES, SIR. AND THAT TENANT IS THERE CURRENTLY? YES SIR. AND HOW LONG IS THAT LEASE? FOR A YEAR. OKAY. AND WHEN WAS IT LAST RE OUT? JUNE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MR. FLYNN. YES. UM, STAY CLOSE IN CASE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS. STAFF, UH, I THINK MR. FLYNN FLYNN'S ADDRESSED THIS, BUT GIVEN THIS CONDITIONAL USE, ARE APARTMENTS ALLOWED IF THIS REZONING OCCURS? NO, SIR. ONLY THREE UNITS PER THE SITE PLAN THAT IS DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN, THAT'S ALL THEY GET. AND THAT SITE PLAN IS BINDING UPON THIS GRANT OF REZONING SHOULD IT OCCUR, CORRECT? CORRECT. THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? YES, COMMISSIONER ROME MIDDLE. YEAH. A QUESTION FOR STAFF, IS IT JUST THE THIRD UNIT THAT'S OUT OF COMPLIANCE OR IS IT THE DUPLEX AS WELL? EVEN IF THERE WERE A THIRD UNIT WOULD BE OUTTA COMPLIANCE WITH THE DUPLEX. THEY ARE ZONE R SIX, SO TECHNICALLY THE SECOND UNIT, UM, WOULD BE OUTTA COMPLIANCE. THEY'RE THREE UNITS ON TWO LOTS, UH, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE BEING TRADED AS ONE LOT. SO, UH, THE SECOND UNIT ITSELF WOULD ALSO BE OUTTA COMPLIANCE TECHNICALLY. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS ON MY LEFT? YES. COMMISSIONER SS THERE'S A FOLLOW UP FOR STAFF. UM, YOU MENTIONED TWO LOTS. IT DID LOOK, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE, THE GOOGLE MAPS, IT DID LOOK LIKE IT WAS A DOUBLE LOT. IS THAT AN ACCURATE ASSESSMENT? IT, IT'S LOT NINE AND THE NORTH 138 FEET OF LOT PEN. SO IT'S, IT'S A COMBINATION OF TWO, BUT IT, IT WAS BUILT OVER THE PROPERTY LINE QUITE SOME TIME AGO. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER TO MY RIGHT QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, JUST A QUESTION FOR STAFF. WHEN YOU WERE DOING YOUR DILIGENCE, DID YOU, UM, I GUESS LOOK AT EACH OF THE THREE DIFFERENT RESIDENCES TO SUPPORT THAT THEY WERE CURRENTLY IN USE? THEY, THEY DO ALL APPEAR TO BE IN USE. UM, THERE'S, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A THIRD ELECTRICAL METER, UH, AT THIS TIME, BUT THEY DO APPEAR TO ALL BE IN USE WHEN WE DID OUR SITE. IS IT? OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. COMMISSIONER WE THANK YOU CHAIR. UH, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. I THINK IT WAS MR. EZ THAT SAID THAT, UH, UNIT C WAS A STORAGE SHED. IS THAT CORRECT? UM, I THAT WITH THESE LADIES, I CAN'T, I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT. BUT WE HAVE GOOGLE MAPS BACK IN 2007 THAT SHOWED ENTRY DOOR WINDOWS, WHICH WE PRESENTED HERE. UM, IT COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN, I I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF THAT CENTRAL QUESTION. ACTUALLY OCCUPIED NOW WITH A TENANT. YES SIR. IT'S BEEN OCCUPIED WITH THE CURRENT TENANT FOR 12 YEARS. THANKS SIR. YES. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER MCGEE, ANY QUESTIONS? NO. ALRIGHT. UM, ONE QUESTION TO FOLLOW UP ON COMMISSIONER EARL METALS, UM, IT'S OUT OF COMPLIANCE, AT LEAST FOR THE TWO ADDITIONAL UNIT IF THE OWNER IS NOT PRESENT, IF THE OWNER'S LIVING THERE, THEN THEY DO GET AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE UNITS, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT. [00:50:27] ALRIGHT. UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE. AS I SAID, I WANT TO THANK YOU MS. CORONADO AND MS. DOMINGUEZ. UH, CERTAINLY WE UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, AS OUR CITY GROWS, THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST IN PURCHASING PROPERTIES AND YOU KNOW, IN SOME CASES DEVELOPING IT MUCH MORE DENSELY THAN HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY THE CASE. UM, THAT BEING SAID, GIVEN THESE FACTS AND GIVEN THAT FOR AT LEAST THE PAST 12 YEARS, IT APPEARS THAT THREE UNITS HAS BEEN USED ON THIS, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY AMPLE SIZED LOT AND THAT THE APPLICANT SHOULD THIS ZONING BE APPROVED, WOULD BE LIMITED TO THAT SAME USE THAT HAS BEEN USED FOR OVER A DECADE. I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER NINE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? THERE IS A SECOND, UH, FROM COMMISSIONER JONES WITH A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY ME. COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT. ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER ROMEO. THANK YOU. UM, THIS CLOSE ONE FOR ME, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT. UM, I DIDN'T, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS WAS PURCHASED IN MAY AND THEN THE BACK UNIT WAS RELEASED IN JUNE AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS WASN'T STRAIGHTENED OUT AND THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN NEIGHBORHOOD DISCUSSION EARLIER OR, OR SOMETHING ELSE BESIDES JUST COMING TO ZONING COMMISSION AT THIS POINT. SO I I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS ONE. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ROME. UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON MY LEFT? COMMISSIONER TO MY RIGHT? COMMISSIONER MC, I KIND HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS AS OUR OTHER COLLEAGUE. I'LL, I'LL THINK ABOUT IT, UM, ON DEFENSE. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CANEL? COMMISSIONER TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER MCGEE? NO. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, I THINK THAT IS A FAIR CONCERN. COMMERS, UH, ROMEO AND MCDANIEL AT THE SAME TIME. AND I THINK WHAT GOT AGAINST IT IN MY MIND, UH, THAT BEING A SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH CONCERN TO RECOMMEND DENIAL IS THAT THAT PERSON HAS BEEN THERE FOR 11 PREVIOUS YEARS. UH, AND GIVEN THAT HISTORY OF USE AND GIVEN THAT IS A NEW OWNER WHO'S TRYING TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE, I THINK THAT'S WHY I'VE MADE THE MOTION. I DID. ALRIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER? MY LEFT COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER MCGEE. ALRIGHT, STAFF ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. COMMISSIONER LEE. AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? NO. COMMISSIONER BOTTLES? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? NO. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR BOSSAND. AYE. WE SHOULD PASS THIS WITH APPROVAL. SEVEN TWO. AND I WANNA THANK YOU MS. DOMINGUEZ AND MS. CORONADO. THANK, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. UH, STAFF IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO [10. 21-4991 ZONING CASE Z-2021-10700158 (Council District 3): A request for a change in zoning from "I-1 MLOD-2 MLR-1 AHOD" General Industrial Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District and "MF-33 MLOD-2 MLR-1 AHOD" Multi-Family Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-3 MLOD-2MLR-1 AHOD" General Commercial Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District on Lot 36, NCB 9483, located at 2700 Pleasanton Road. Staff recommends Approval. (Michael Pepe, Senior Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department) ] THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH I BELIEVE IS ITEM NUMBER 10. ITEM NUMBER 10 IS A REQUEST TO REZONED FROM I ONE AND MF 33 TO C THREE. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME AT 2,700 PLEASANTON ROAD. THERE WERE 17 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION. AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE CURRENT I ONE DISTRICT IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY. THE PROPOSED C THREE WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE WITH GOOD ROADWAY AND TRANSIT ACCESS. STAFFER COMMENCES APPROVAL MR. CHAIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. IS THE APPLICANT FOR THIS ITEM PRESENT THE APPLICANT FOR 2,700? LONDON IF YOU WOULD SIR, PLEASE, UH, STAFF, WE WANNA GET THE TRANSLATOR UP SIR. THANK YOU INTERPRETER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, IF YOU WOULD, SIR, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS. 39 39 0 7 COMMERCIAL AVENUE. MY NAME IS ANTONIO CRUZ. I'M SORRY, I APOLOGIZE. THANK YOU MR. CRUZ. UM, IF YOU WOULD TELL US ABOUT THE ZONING. I'M AIMING FOR CERTIFICATION C THREE. OKAY. AND IF YOU COULD TELL US WHY, SIR? UM, IN THE FUTURE WE'RE CONSIDERING TO ESTABLISH A BUSINESS, PROBABLY NOT IN THE NEAR FUTURE, BUT WE WANNA LEAVE THE ZONING ALREADY [00:55:01] SET SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES IN THE FUTURE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, THANK YOU MR. BRUCE. IF YOU WOULD JUST WAIT ONE SECOND. ALRIGHT. STAFF, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? IS, IS ANYONE PRESENT IN THE HEARING ROOM TO SPEAK ON THE SIDE OF ALRIGHT, SEEING NO ONE PRESENT AND NO PUBLIC COMMENT? THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE, SO COMMISSIONER MCGEE, WE ARE GOING TO GO TO YOU. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. UH, I'D LIKE TO START, UH, WITH STAFF PLEASE. SO, UM, THE DETERMINATION FOR C THREE, WAS THAT BECAUSE IT WAS GONNA BE AUTO REPAIR, AUTO REPAIR, OR HOW WAS THE DETERMINATION MADE FOR THE C THREE? THE APPLICANT, UH, REQUESTED A C THREE AND SINCE THIS IS A DOWN ZONING FROM AN I ONE, WHICH IS A MUCH MORE INTENSE USE, THE C THREE APPEAR TO BE APPROPRIATE. UM, IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT HE HAS ANY DEFINITIVE, UH, PLANS AT THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT, BUT THERE IS I ONE TO THE SOUTH AND THERE IS C THREE AS WELL TO THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY. SO, UH, THERE, THERE IS A, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ZONING DESIGNATIONS IN THIS AREA, BUT FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE, THEY FELT THAT A C THREE WOULD BE MOST APPROPRIATE. OKAY. AND THEN ANOTHER QUESTION, UM, WITH THE DISTANCE FROM THE SCHOOL, UM, IS IT, UM, ALREADY RESTRICTED FROM ALCOHOL USE OR WOULD WE BE ABLE TO AMEND IT TO INCLUDE EITHER N A OR R? I ALWAYS GET THOSE CONFUSED WITH THE C THREE, CORRECT MA'AM? YES, IT COULD BE AMENDED TO INCLUDE AN NA OR AN R, UM, AND IF THEY DID WANT TO HAVE ALCOHOL CELLS THERE IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO THE SCHOOL, THEY WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED TO GET AN ALCOHOL VARIANCE. OKAY. SO IT, SO IS IT SINCE IT'S CLOSE TO THE SCHOOL THAT A IS EFFECTIVE OR NOT EFFECTIVE? MM-HMM. OR WE COULD, OH, SO IF YOU PUT THE NA THEN IT WOULDN'T BE, UM, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET THE VARIANCE? CORRECT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, SO TO THE APPLICANT, UM, WOULD YOU BE, UM, I DON'T, I CAN'T SEE IF THE INTERPRETER AND THE APPLICANT ARE NEARBY. THEY ARE. THANK YOU. OKAY, WONDERFUL. OKAY. UM, I WOULD YOU BE, UM, AMENABLE, UH, TO, UM, A NO ALCOHOL RESTRICTION? YES, BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOL, I'M AWARE THAT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SELL ALCOHOL. OKAY. WONDERFUL. OKAY, WELL THEN I'M GONNA, UM, MAKE THAT, UH, RECOMMENDATION, BUT I'LL, UM, I'LL, UH, I'M DONE WITH MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MCGEE. UH, COMMISSIONER TO MY RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OF THIS APPLICANT? SEEING NONE TO MY LEFT QUESTION. COMMISSIONER BUTS, UM, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION. I JUST HAVE A COMMENT. UM, KNOWING THE STRICT T A B C RULES ON THIS, UM, BASICALLY THE APPLICANT CAN COME BACK AT ANY GIVEN TIME AND APPLY FOR A, UH, A WAIVER ON THE D A B C RULE. SO DON'T, DON'T BE, UH, SO SET UP IN THAT THERE IS A RULE OF THREE OR 400 FEET FROM A HOSPITAL SCHOOL, UM, AND SO AT THE CHURCH RIGHT AWAY, BUT D A B C, UH, STATE LAW LAW, SO THEY, THEY COULD COME BACK IN A YEAR, SIX MONTHS FROM NOW. BUT THE T A B C PROCESS IS A VERY, VERY STRICT PROCESS. SO IT TAKES YOU ALMOST, UH, SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS TO GET A T B C LICENSE. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BURROS. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE K, SO COMMISSIONER MCGEE TO YOU FOR MOTION AND DISCUSSION. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. UH, I, I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION. I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 10, UM, AS C THREE NA. ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR SECOND RECOMMEND APPROVAL AS C UH, C THREE NA AS AMENDED BY THE APPLICANT WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JONES. ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT. [01:00:01] AM I RIGHT? COMMISSIONER MCGEE? LAST WORD. HEARING NONE. NONE. ROLL ALL VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE HI. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER BOTTLES? UH, YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SIDES? YES. CHAIR. UH, MOTION PASSES WITH APPROVAL. 9 0 4 C THREE E. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, STAFF IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER 13, I HOPE. ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST TO REZONED FROM R SIX TO C TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT ONE 30 NORTHWEST 36TH STREET. THERE WERE 14 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE RECEIVED AN OPPOSITION AND BOTH LU PENEZ NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND MEMORIAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION [13. 21-5097 ZONING CASE Z-2021-10700161 (Council District 5): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 MLOD-2 MLR-1 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-2 MLOD-2 MLR-1 AHOD" Commercial Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District on 0.476 acres out of NCB 8250, located at 130 Northwest 36th Street. Staff recommends Denial. (Joyce Palmer, Planner, (210) 207-0315, Joyce.Palmer@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department). ] ARE OPPOSED. THERE WERE ALSO TWO INDIVIDUALS OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA THAT ARE OPPOSED. THE CURRENT R SIX IS APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY. THE PROPOSED C TWO WOULD BE OUT OF CHARACTER BETWEEN LARGELY RESIDENTIAL USES. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT I BELIEVE IS AVAILABLE. MR. HARI? THANK YOU MR. HARI, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME UP, INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND THEN TELL US WHY YOU WANT THIS REZONING. THANK YOU. WE ARE ALREADY ARE AT 36TH STREET. WE BOUGHT A CHURCH. AND UM, SIR, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS. YEAH, I'M A DO HARRY'S LAST NAME AND UH, WE HAVE PURCHASED THAT CHURCH AND UH, ACROSS FROM THAT CHURCH IS A HUNDRED UNIT APARTMENTS. THEY WERE CLOSED AND NOW THEY ARE BEING REVIVED AGAIN. THERE ARE NO ACCOMMODATING FACILITY IN THE AREA, LIKE FOOD SERVICE, EATING FACILITY, BEAUTY SALON, AND THE LIKE TO FACILITATE OR IMPROVE THE STATUS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE CONSULTED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATE MR. RICHARD GARCIA AND WE TOLD HIM THAT IF WE, IF IT'D BE OKAY TO APPLY FOR A C TWO C ONE, UH, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT, WOULD HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND UM, IT WOULD BE GOOD. SO ON THAT, WE APPLIED AND UM, WE WERE HOPING THAT, UH, IT WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THE CHURCH. UH, WE, WE, SINCE WE ARE JUST ACROSS FROM THE DEPARTMENTS, IT WOULD SERVE THE DEPARTMENT ALSO. AND UH, AND ON THAT BASE WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST IF WE COULD GET, IF NOT A C TWO, AT LEAST A C ONE, SO THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE SIMPLE THINGS LIKE A HAIR PARLOR OR A SIP FOOD EATING FACILITY JUST TO HELP, UH, FEATURES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND ON THAT BASE, I'LL LEAVE IT OPEN. THANK YOU MR. HOTTY, UM, STAFF, IS THERE ANY VOICEMAIL FOR THIS ITEM? NO SIR. IS ANYONE PRESENT IN THE HEARING ROOM FOR THE TIME? YES SIR. YES, THERE IS. OH, SORRY. MR. GARCIA. MR. GARCIA, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. RICHARD GARCIA, UH, 1 6 6 TESLA DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 8 PRESENTERS OF MEMORIAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATES. WE'VE BEEN SINCE 1998 AND THERE'S ONLY THREE THINGS THAT WE DO FOR ASSOCIATES IS THAT WE ADVOCATE, ADVOCATE AND ADVOCATE, UH, BEING IN CONTACT WITH MY MEMBERS, UH, UH, ASSOCIATION, ALSO BEING IN CONTACT WITH MONT PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, NCE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND WE'RE ADAMANTLY AGAINST THIS. AND ONE REASON I KNOW THEY SAID SOMETHING ABOUT A FOOD ESTABLISHMENT IS THAT WE BEEN A MILE RADIUS. THERE'S THREE MEXICAN RESTAURANTS, A MCDONALD'S, A DAIRY QUEEN, THE [01:05:17] FISH, FRESH FISH, RIGHT. AND CHINESE RESTAURANT. SO IN ESSENCE WE, WE ARE GETTING SICK AND TIRED OF MAKING OUR AREA NORTHWEST 36. WE SEE VEGETARIAN, WE WANNA KEEP IT STRICTLY, UH, OUR SIX, WE'RE TIRED OF C TWO OR C WANTS OUR, OR GOD FORBID, MF COMING INTO OUR AREA. WE WE'RE ADAMANTLY AGAINST THIS AND WE, AND I I CAN SAY IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH, NO AND NO. SO ARE YOU LEARN SPANISH, SO, SO HERE YOU ARE. SO NO, IT'S NOT TODAY. NO, YESTERDAY AND NOT TOMORROW. WE'RE ADAMANTLY AGAINST IT AND WE WILL FIGHT IT IN ANY WAY WE CAN. WE'LL BE HERE , BUT WE SWEETLY WANNA KEEP OUR AREAS, UH, JUST UH, RESIDENTIAL AND WE'RE SICK AND TIRED OF, OF COMING AREA AND TRYING TO CHANGE OUR ZONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU MR. GARCIA. UM, ALRIGHT MR. HOLLY, ANY ? YEAH, MR. GARCIA SUGGESTED THAT, THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, WHAT IS ALREADY THERE. WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO PROMOTE THE ACCOMMODATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THE APARTMENTS HUNDRED UNIT APARTMENTS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND AS SUCH, I FEEL THAT HAVING FACILITIES LIKE A DAYCARE OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, COULD BE ALL. AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER FEATURES I'VE OUTLINED AND ON THAT BASE, IF HE HAD ALLOWED US TO KNOW THAT HE ADAMANTLY FEEL THAT IT WOULD NOT PASS, WE WOULD NOT SPEND MONEY TO HAVE IT REAPPLIED AND ON THAT BASE, WE ARE DISAPPOINTED ON THAT BASE. AND UM, IF YOU REPRESENT SOMETHING I WISH IT WOULD BE A TRUE VARIABLE REPRESENTATION. WE ARE ASKING NOT FOR SALES BUT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ON THAT BASE. I CONCLUDE. THANK YOU MR. ALIA, YOU JUST STAY THERE. UM, UM, I MIGHT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU AND OTHER COMMISSIONERS MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS AS WELL. UM, ALRIGHT. ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? AV NO SIR. ALRIGHT. THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE K. SO, UH, IT WILL GO TO ME FIRST FOR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. UH, MR. HAIE, YOU KNOW, ONE THING YOU TALKED ABOUT IS THAT YOU WANT THE C TWO OR POTENTIALLY C ONE REZONING, UM, BUT IT'S NOT CLEAR WHAT YOU WANNA PUT THERE ON YOU OWN THIS SLAUGHTER. ARE YOU AND AND YOUR WIFE OWN THIS S SLOT? YES. OKAY. AND I BELIEVE I SPOKE TO YOUR WIFE EARLIER IN THIS PROCESS? YES. OKAY. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK RIGHT NOW ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I HAVE AS A COMMISSIONER IS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SAID DAYCARE, UH, THAT MIGHT MAKE THIS MAKE THIS A LITTLE EASIER TO SAY, OKAY, THAT'S A USE THAT WOULD BE USEFUL. I UNDERSTAND THIS ONLY GOES WITH THE LAND, BUT A SPECIFIC USE BY YOU WOULD BE WOULD'VE BEEN HELPFUL IN THIS CASE. UM, SO DO YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC PLAN FOR THIS PROPERTY? NO, THE PROPERTY IS, IS A, A LARGE PROPERTY. IT HAS A LOT OF FRONTAGE AND WE CAN PROVIDE THAT FACILITY, EITHER THAT FACILITY OR A HAIR SALON OR A SIMPLE EATING FACILITY. WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT AND IT'LL BE BETTER FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND OF COURSE IT'LL, IT'D BE MODIFYING PROPERTY. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. HOLLY. UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. COMMISSIONER TO MY LAST QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER. SO MY RIGHT QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER GEE, QUESTIONS? NO. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, YOU KNOW, MR. HOTTY, UH, I FEEL BADLY ABOUT THIS, BUT I KNOW WHEN I TALKED TO YOUR WIFE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD AND NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATION BUY-IN WOULD BE ON ANY REZONING REQUEST, INCLUDING YOURS. UM, IN LIGHT OF THE RECOMMENDATION DENIAL FROM THE STAFF, IN LIGHT OF THE OPPOSITION FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, I MOVE TO RECOMMEND DENIAL OF ITEM NUMBER 13. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALRIGHT, I HEAR A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER O'NEAL. DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER TO I, RIGHT? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. I JUST KINDA WANNA ECHO YOUR COMMENTS. I WISH YOU WOULD'VE MAYBE COME WITH A BETTER PLAN OF WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE DEVELOPED THERE. WE TYPICALLY WANNA KNOW WHAT AN APPLICANT IS PLANNING ON PUTTING THERE. IT GIVES US A LITTLE MORE, UM, I BELIEF OR, OR, UM, SATISFACTION TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE AGREEING TO ALLOW FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT AT LAND USE. UM, THE ONLY THING I MIGHT ASK THOUGH IS JUST TO HELP HIM IF THERE'S SOME CONDITIONAL USE THAT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED IF YOU, IF YOU MAKING THIS GO FORWARD, IF YOU MAYBE DECIDED, AND I GUESS IT'S A QUESTION FOR STAFF, IF YOU WANTED TO DO A CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE CHILDCARE THAT HE KIND OF MENTIONED, DOES THAT REQUIRE RESTARTING THE PROCESS? YES MA'AM. IT WOULD. OKAY. AND IT WOULD REQUIRE A SITE PLAN AS WELL. OKAY. THAT [01:10:01] WOULD JUST BE MY SUGGESTION. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. CAN COMMISSIONER, WE, UH, SO MS. HARDY, I, I THINK HE GENUINE, GENUINELY WANNA DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT'S THE SAME OBJECTIVE THAT MR. GARCIA HAS. SO, YOU KNOW, I SEE BOTH OF YOU HAVE THE SAME OBJECTIVES, BUT, UH, PERHAPS MORE COMMUNICATIONS AND PERHAPS UPGRADED IZATION OF WHAT YOU WANNA DO WITH THE PROPERTY. I THAT YOU GUYS CAN COME TO SOME KIND OF A, A CONCLUSION THAT WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT, THIS TIME I DON'T HAVE TO SUPPORT, UH, UH, THE CHAIRS. UH, MOVE FOR DENIAL. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER JONES. UH, COMMISSIONER MCGEE? NO, NO COMMENT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES. COMMISSIONER, WHAT, JUST QUICKLY DON'T, DON'T GIVE UP ON THIS. YOU CAN, YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, GET A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, COME BACK, UH, WITH A GOOD PLAN AND, UH, POTENTIALLY GET A DIFFERENT RESULT NEXT TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. MR. ALI. UH, STAFF ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER BAROZ? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCKEN? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR. AYE. MOTION PASSES AS DENIAL OF NINE TO ZERO. GOOD LUCK TO YOU SIR. I, WE HOPE YOU COME BACK. SORRY. EXCUSE ME. I DON'T DOUBT THERE FOR A SECOND. IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. STAFF, I BELIEVE 14. ITEM NUMBER 14 IS A REQUEST TO REZO FROM R SIX TO R SIX CD WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS AT 6 45 GLASSNER BOULEVARD. THERE WERE 27 NOTICES MAILED AND THEN RECEIVED A FAVOR. NONE IN OPPOSITION AND THERE IS NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. STAFF DOES FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE DENSITY OF THE PROPOSED R SIX CD CONDITIONAL USE WITH FOUR DWELLING UNITS IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE WOULD NOT FIT THE DENSITY OR CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THUS STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL [14. 21-5100 ZONING CASE Z-2021-10700162 CD (Council District 3): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District to "R-6 CD MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District with Conditional Use for Four (4) Dwelling Units on Lot 6, Block 21, NCB 9321, located at 635 Grosvenor Boulevard. Staff recommends Denial. (Joyce Palmer, Planner, (210) 207-0315, Joyce.Palmer@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department). ] THE APPLICANT. MR. GOMEZ SHOULD BE IN THE AUDIENCE. OKAY, MR. GOMEZ, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF, UH, PROVIDE YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US WHY YOU'RE SEEKING THIS . OKAY. UM, OKAY. MY NAME IS LUIS GOMEZ AND MY WIFE VERONICA GOMEZ HERE. UM, WE LIVE IN, UH, 4 71 EAST, ONE EAST AND WE BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE WE OWN THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET. IT'S ALSO A FOURPLEX. AND SO WITH THE IDEA WE BUY, WITH THE IDEA OF MAKING IT ALSO A FOURPLEX. SO WE CAN HAVE BOTH. WE HAVE TWO BEDROOMS NOW. WE WANNA MAKE THIS ONE BARN BEDROOMS, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TO SEE IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO MAKE IT, BECAUSE THERE'S SEVERAL AROUND THE AREA, THERE'S A LOT OF FOURPLEXES, THREE PLACES, AND THERE REALLY ONLY MORE WE CAN SEE THE SIGN AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU, SIR. MS. WILLIS, ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD? UM, YES, LIKE HE SAID, WE OWN THE ONE ACROSS THAT'S FOURPLEX AND I'M THE PROPERTY MANAGER. I, I'M THE ONE THAT I DON'T RENT JUST TO ANYONE. I DO A BACKGROUND CHECK AND SO, YOU KNOW, FOR THE SAFETY, WE DON'T TAKE LIKE SEX OFFENDERS OR, YOU KNOW, THINGS NO CRIMINAL. SO THANK YOU MS. S THANK YOU. UM, SETH, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, SIR. ALRIGHT. ANYONE PRESENT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM IN THE HEARING ROOM? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE. UM, SO COMMISSIONER MCGEE TO YOU FOR [01:15:01] QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO, UM, UH, STAFF AGAIN. SO WITH THE, UM, THE, UM, APPLICANT HAS SAID THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE FOURPLEXES IN THE AREA, INCLUDING ACROSS THE STREET. SO, UM, CAN, CAN YOU TALK TO ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR DECISION FOR DENIAL? YES. WELL, IN GENERAL THERE, THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET IS A LARGER FEE, SO IT COULD BE POSSIBLE THAT THERE WERE MORE UNITS PLACED ON IT. WE DON'T REALLY KNOW THE HISTORY OF THAT PROPERTY, BUT, UM, IN GENERAL, THE, THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE AREA ARE ONLY ONE AND TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS WITHIN THE AREA. AND SO HAVING FOURS COMPLETELY ADD PATTERN WITH THAT, AND FOR THAT REASON WE RECOMMEND DENIAL. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, UH, YEAH, ANY, UH, I, ANY OF MY, UM, I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT, UM, UNLESS SOME OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS DO. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCGEE. COMMISSIONER STARIGHT QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER JONES? UH, YES. FOR THE APPLICANT. UM, DID YOU PLAN TO BUILD SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET? YES, VERY, VERY SIMILAR. UM, RIGHT NOW IT'S A, A HOUSE THAT'S ALREADY, THERE'S A SINGLE, SINGLE HOME AND WE'RE TRYING TO ADD TO THE SIDE AND MAKE THEM UP LIKE THINNER, BUT FOUR, SIMILAR TO THE SIZE. THE LOT IS THE SAME SIZE, THE LAND. SO THE LOT ACROSS THE STREET AND THE LOT THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ARE THE SAME SIZE? MM-HMM. ? YES. OKAY. THANK. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. YOU COMMISSIONER JONES. UH, COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT. QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE, UH, COMMISSIONER MCGEE TO YOU FOR MOTION AND DISCUSSION. OKAY, SO MY, MY THOUGHTS ARE THAT, UM, THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET KIND OF STICKS OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB. LIKE IT DOESN'T REALLY MIX IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, ALREADY. AND SO I ALWAYS FELT LIKE, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING ALREADY THERE AND IT'S NOT RIGHT, IT DOESN'T MAKE ADDING SOMETHING ELSE OF LIKE, NATURE RIGHT EITHER. I KNOW THAT WE NEED, UH, MORE HOUSING HERE AND SAN ANTONIO, BUT I STILL BELIEVE IN TRYING TO PRESERVE THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO AT THIS POINT I WOULD, UM, AGREE WITH THE, WITH STAFF AND, UM, MOVE FOR, UH, DENIAL FOR ITEM NUMBER 14. ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR DENIAL OF NUMBER 14. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALRIGHT, THERE IS A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UM, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER MCGEE. LAST ORDER? UH, NONE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, STAFF ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER BOTTLES? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR . AYE. MOTION PASSES AS DENIAL. NINE ZERO. WISH YOU BEST OF LUCK MR. AND MRS. EZ TO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU CAN TALK TO YOUR REPRESENTATIVE, UM, FROM THE DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU. MAYOR WILL COME OUT AND TALK TO YOU IN THE HALL PLEASE. UM, ALRIGHT. I BELIEVE WE'RE ONTO OUR NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER 15. ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 15 IS REQUEST TO REZONED FROM C TWO N A A H O D TO C TWO LOCATED AT 1607 WEST AL DRIVE. THERE WERE 17 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE CURRENT C TWO A IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY, ENTER AN AREA. HOWEVER, THE PROPOSED C TWO MAINTAINS THE BASE DISTRICT AND ELIMINATES THE NA NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES OVERLAY, WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR ALCOHOL SALES AND IS APPROPRIATE ON A CORNER OF THE BLOCK AND A LONG INTERSTATE PEN. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE UPPER [15. 21-5109 ZONING CASE Z-2021-10700164 (Council District 1): A request for a change in zoning from "C-2NA AHOD" Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-2 AHOD" Commercial Airport Hazard Overlay District on Lot 12, Block 119, NCB 8849, located at 1607 West Hermosa Drive. Staff recommends Approval. (Lorianne Thennes, Senior Planner, 210-207-7945, lorianne.thennes@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department) ] [01:20:06] AND THE APPLICANT MISS, UH, MR. GARZA SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, MR. GARA, IF YOU WOULD COME UP, INTRODUCE YOURSELF, GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US WHY YOU'RE SEEKING THE RE RESIGN. HI, GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS AM GARZA AND MY ADDRESS IS 1607 WEST OSA DRIVE 7 8 2 0 1. UH, WE'RE ASKING FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE A, UH, TO BE ABLE TO, UH, OFFER B ON WINE FOR OUR CUSTOMERS. WE ALREADY HAVE A FOOD ESTABLISHMENT AND WE WOULD LIKE TO OFFER A LITTLE BIT MORE ENTERTAINMENT FOR THE COMMUNITY. UM, WE'VE BEEN OPEN FOR, UM, THREE, FOUR MONTHS NOW AND WE HAVE REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK FROM THE CUSTOMERS. UM, WE HAVE GOOD CLIENTELE ALREADY AND THEY WOULD LIKE FOR US TO OFFER BEER AND WINE. UM, AS I MENTIONED, IT'S GONNA BE JUST, UH, SOFT, UM, JUST BEYOND WINE. SO NOT HARD. WE'RE NOT PLANNING TO OPEN ANY BAR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT'S JUST BASICALLY RESTAURANT WOULD BE ONLINE. THANK YOU. MS. GARA, UH, STAFF, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT VOICEMAILS? NO SIR. ANYONE PRESENT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM IN THE HEARING ROOM? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, UH, THIS IS A COMMISSIONER, UH, SORRY. DISTRICT ONE CASE AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS ABSENT. SO COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, DO YOU THANK YOU. UM, AND FOR THE APPLICANT, TELL ME I HAVE NOT HAD TIME TO DRIVE BY THIS FACILITY. IS IS THIS A HOUSE OR HAVE YOU CONSTRUCTED SOMETHING DIFFERENT THERE? IT'S HARD FOR ME TO TELL ON THE MAP. OKAY. UM, THE PROPERTY WAS RESOLVED PREVIOUSLY THAN WHEN WE PURCHASED, SO IT USED TO BE A HOUSE AND WE CONVERTED IT INTO A SNACK PLACE. WE HAD DONE, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE PROCESS TO GET THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AND EVERYTHING. SO WE HAVE ACTUALLY A SNACK PLACE IN THE PREVIOUS HOUSE BASICALLY. AND THEN WE HAVE A FOOD TRUCK, UM, WHERE WE SELL TACOS AND BURGERS, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE OPERATING AS A SNACK PLACE WITH THE FOOD TRUCK ON THE LOT ADJACENT. WE ALSO, UM, WE ALSO OWN. OH, OKAY. WHAT ARE YOUR HOURS OF OPERATION? WE OPEN THURSDAY THROUGH SUNDAY, 6:00 PM TO 12:00 PM SO THEN LOOKING AT THAT, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE, UM, MORE OUTDOOR SEATING THAN YOU DO INSIDE THE, THE BUILDING. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT IS CORRECT. ESPECIALLY WITH COVID SINCE WE JUST OPENED. WE WANNA PROVIDE THE COMMUNITY WITH AN OUTDOOR, UH, PLACE SO THEY CAN GO WITH THEIR FAMILY. 'CAUSE OUR FAMILY ORIENTED PLACE SO PEOPLE GO THERE, UH, WITH THE KIDS AND EVERYTHING TO EAT AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE A GOOD TIME THERE. OKAY. UM, SO WITH YOUR OUTDOOR HOURS, ARE YOU PLAYING MUSIC? ARE YOU ENTERTAINMENT LIKE BANDS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT? YEAH, WE PLAY MUSIC AND WE TRY TO KEEP IT AT A, A GOOD LEVEL. UH, FORTUNATE TO US, WE, US WE HAVE A CITY PARK TO THE, TO THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND THEN ON THE BACK THERE'S AN ALLEY BETWEEN OUR PROPERTIES AND THE HOUSES BEHIND US. AND THEN AS YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A HIGHWAY ACROSS THE STREET. SO THE HIGHWAY HELPS A LOT TO, UH, ABSORB THE NOISE AND EVERYTHING. SO WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY COMPLAINTS LIKE FROM THE NEIGHBORS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. OKAY. THAT'S ALL FOR YOU RIGHT NOW. SNAP. CAN YOU TELL ME WHEN THE NA WAS APPLIED TO THE ZONING PREVIOUSLY? IT WAS BACK IN 2015. WAS THAT WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS REZONED AS C TWO? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. UM, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW. PASS MY COLLEAGUES. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER WHITE. READY? NOPE. OKAY. COMMISSIONER, AM I RIGHT? QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MCGEE QUESTIONS? NO. NO. ALRIGHT. UM, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A DISTRICT ONE CASE, UM, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL AND COMMISSIONER GREENHOUSE'S ABSENCE, UH, FOR MOTION AND DISCUSSION. SO OBVIOUSLY COMING IN LATE TO THE GAME ON THIS ONE, I'M JUST GONNA SAY, I, I TYPICALLY DON'T LEAN TOWARDS REMOVING AN NA, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT ABUTS A RESIDENTIAL AREA FOR THIS. SO, UM, I THINK WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS HUNT AND SEE IF YOU'RE WILLING TO TAKE A ONE MONTH, UM, CONTINUANCE SO THAT THE DISTRICT ONE COMMISSIONER CAN COME BACK AND TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS. BECAUSE I'M 10, I, I LEAN MORE TOWARDS PROTECTING THE COMMUNITY. SO WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO HAVE A CONTINUANCE OR DO YOU WANNA MOVE FORWARD? UM, I'LL HAVE A CONTINUANCE. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THEN I WOULD MAKE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE. MY COLLEAGUES WILL AGREE TO THAT, TO, I THINK IT'S SEPTEMBER 7TH. ALRIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER 7TH OF ITEM NUMBER 15. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. COMMISSIONER JONES HAD MADE A SECOND TOWARD THE FOURTH MOTION CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER 7TH. UH, ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER? MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER MCGEE. ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER DO. YES. COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR. AYE. WE SHOULD PASS THIS FOR CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER 7TH, NINE [01:25:01] ZERO. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, STAFF IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 16 PLEASE. [16. 21-5101 ZONING CASE Z-2021-10700166 (Council District 3): A request for a change in zoning from "R-4“ Residential Single-Family District and "R-4 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District to "MHC" Manufactured Housing Conventional District and "MHC AHOD" Manufactured Housing Conventional Airport Hazard Overlay District on Lot 3, Block 1, NCB 10867, located at 7715 Shetland Drive. Staff recommends Approval. (Joyce Palmer, Planner, (210) 207-0315, Joyce.Palmer@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department). ] ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A REQUEST TO RE RESIGN FROM R FOUR AND R FOUR A H O D TO M H C AND M H C A H O D LOCATED AT 77 15 SHETLAND DRIVE. THERE WERE 27 NOTICES MAILED. DONE. RECEIVED IN FAVOR? NONE IN OPPOSITION AND HIGHLAND FOREST NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED AS ARE THREE INDIVIDUALS OUTSIDE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA. CURRENT R FOUR IS APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED M H C IS ALSO AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. MR. CHAIR? ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT'S THE APPLICANT PRESENT AND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. DO YOU HAVE YOUR ADDRESS AND THEN TELL US WHY YOU'RE SEEKING THIS RESOUNDING. OKAY. HELLO, MY NAME IS SISE. MY ADDRESS IS 77 19 SHETLAND DRIVE AND I'M SEEKING THIS REZONING 'CAUSE I WANTED, I LIVE ON 77 19 AND I WANTED TO PLACE SOME MOBILE HOME FOR MY MOTHER, WHICH IS WIDOW AND DISABLED BECAUSE I'M THE ONE WHO TAKES CARE OF HER. SO THAT WOULD BE THE EASIEST THING FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR HER TO MOVE IN RIGHT AWAY AND BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF HER. AND THEY ARE MULTIPLE MOBILE HOMES DOWN THIS STREET, SO THAT'S WHY. THANK YOU. MS. S MM-HMM. , UM, STAFF, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? VOICEMAILS? OF COURSE MY COMPUTER DECIDED TO SHUT DOWN. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS, BUT I WILL DOUBLE CHECK IT. THANK YOU. UH, WE CAN COME BACK TO IT IF NECESSARY. IS ANYONE PRESENT TALK ABOUT THIS? WHO'S NOT ON STAFF? NO. UM, IS ANYONE PRESENT WHO'S NOT ON CITY STAFF BESIDES MR. GONZALEZ? UM, ALRIGHT, THIS IS A MR. FREE CASE. IF THAT VOICEMAIL COMES UP, WE'LL PLAY IT AFTER, UH, COMMISSIONER MCGEE, COMMISSIONER MCGEE TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, I HAVE, I, WHEN I LOOK, I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO DO A DROP BY, BUT WHEN I LOOK HERE, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S AN EXISTING BUILDING AT 77 15. I'M SORRY. UM, SHETLAND. SO, IS THAT CORRECT, RIGHT, THAT THERE'S SOME, A BUILDING THERE? YES, THERE'S A HOUSE AND THEN WE ALREADY, THERE'S HOW THE PIECE OF PROPERTY IS SOLD. SO THE NEXT DOOR PROPERTY, WE'RE LOOKING TO GET AN ADDRESS FOR THAT TO, FOR THE MOBILE, WHERE THE MOBILE IS GONNA BE PLACED. OKAY. UMS, CAN YOU, UH, ZOOM IN ON THE SCREEN AND, AND MAYBE, UM, UH, SHOW ME THE, UM, THE LOCATION THAT SHE'S SPEAKING OF, UM, WITH, UM, FROM THE STREET LEVEL VIEW? YEAH, I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY FOR TWO PROPERTIES. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN, BUT THEY JUST HADN'T BEEN SEPARATED. MM-HMM. , I WAS HOPING, I'M LOOKING ON MY SCREEN, BUT I'M HOPING STAFF CAN TAKE ME TO STREET LEVEL HERE. AND, UM, SO I SEE THE EXISTING MM-HMM. AND THEN, UH, SHOW ME THE, THE LOCATION FOR, IS IT WHERE THE TRUCK IS? YES. FROM THE TRUCK TO THE OTHER SIDE? YEAH, I LIVE ON THE HOUSE. MM-HMM. NEXT DOOR. WE'LL BE THAT PROPERTY BETWEEN A HOUSE AND THE TRUCK. OKAY. YES. ALL RIGHT. JUST ONE SECOND HERE. AND WHAT TYPE OF, UM, UH, ARE YOU A HOME? ARE YOU, UH, THINKING IS IT GONNA HAVE THE SKIRTING AND KIND? OH YES. WELL, MY BROTHER'S, UH, PURCHASING IT FROM MY MOM. IT WOULD BE A BRAND NEW MOBILE HOME. YES. A A MOBILE HOME OR A MANUFACTURED HOME. MM-HMM. . UH, THE MANUFACTURED HOME, I THINK IS THE SAME THING WITH THE SKIRTING. WHAT IT GONNA LOOK LIKE? THE HOUSES RIGHT NEXT? YES. ACROSS THE STREET AND NEXT DOOR. YEAH. WE'LL BE PUTTING SKIRTING ALL AROUND AND BUILDING A LITTLE PORCH DECK AND EVERYTHING. YES. MM-HMM. . OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS MOMENT. UH, COMMISSIONER CLOSEMAN. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER STEPH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY VOICEMAILS. ALL OF THE, UM, WRITTEN OPPOSITION WAS FORWARDED TO THE, TO THE COMMISSION. THANK YOU STEPH. ALRIGHT, UH, [01:30:01] COMMISSIONER TO MYACK QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER TO MYACK QUESTIONS? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES. JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHAT THE BUILDING IS. IT'S THE, THE ONE ON THE OTHER SIDE. BIG, THE BIG BUILDING THAT'S ON THE SAME SIDE. IT'S A HOUSE. WHAT? LIKE WHICH ONE IS THAT? OH YES, THERE'S A NEW STORAGE UNIT IN THE BACK. THEY JUST PUT THAT THERE. YEAH. UH, THANK YOU MS. SOLI STAFF. AND, AND TO BE CLEAR, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT M H C ZONING, THAT SKIRTING AND OTHER KIND OF NON ROLL ON ROLL OFF PROVISION IS REQUIRED BY CODE, IS THAT CORRECT? YES SIR. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONER DANIEL, JUST A QUICK QUESTION 'CAUSE I DON'T SEE THE LOT SIZE HERE. HOW MANY UNITS WOULD THAT ALLOW ON THIS PROPERTY? IT'S ONLY ONE PER LOT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? ALRIGHT. COMMISSIONER MCGEE, DO YOU FOR A MOTION AND DISCUSSIONS? OKAY. UH, THANK YOU TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. THOSE WERE, UH, GREAT QUESTIONS. UM, AT THIS POINT I'M LOOKING AT THE SURROUNDING AREA. I DON'T SEE THAT IT WOULDN'T, UH, FIT ON THIS PARTICULAR, UM, LOT, UH, ZONING THAT IT WOULD NOT FIT IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I WILL, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO, FOR APPROVAL FOR ITEM SIX 16. ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 16. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALRIGHT, THERE IS A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER JONES FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 16. UH, DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER MCGEE. LAST WORD? NONE. ALRIGHT, IN THAT CASE, ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER ROS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER STRIPES? YES. CHAIR. AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. NINE TO ZERO. ALRIGHT, STAFF, IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH I BELIEVE IS ITEM NUMBER 17. YES. OUR FINAL ITEM OF THIS AFTERNOON, WELL, FOUR ZONING USES THAT IS, THIS IS A REQUEST TO RESUME FROM R SIX TO R THREE. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT ONE 13 RIPLEY AVENUE. THERE [17. 21-4994 ZONING CASE Z-2021-10700170 (Council District 1): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 NCD-2 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Alta Vista Neighborhood Conservation Airport Hazard Overlay District to "R-3 NCD-2 AHOD" Single-Family Residential Alta Vista Neighborhood Conservation Airport Hazard Overlay District on the south 63 feet of Lot 7 and Lot 8, Block 4, NCB 1893, located at 113 Ripley Avenue. Staff recommends Approval. (Mirko Maravi, Senior Planner (210) 207-0107, mirko.maravi@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department) ] WERE 34 NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR, ONE IN OPPOSITION THERE. ALTAVISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. THE CURRENT R SIX IS APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY. WE PROPOSED R THREE IS STILL SINGLE FAMILY USE BUT ADDS SLIGHTLY MORE DENSITY. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE REPRESENTATIVE, MR. GONZALEZ, SHOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MR. GONZALEZ, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME UP, INTRODUCE YOURSELF, GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US ABOUT THIS REZONING REQUEST. GOOD AFTERNOON. GUS GONZALEZ, G RE'S ENGINEERING 52 50 CALLAHAN ROAD, UH, SAN ANTONIO, 7 2 2 8. UM, UH, THE, UH, CLIENT JANELLE BRIDGES OUTTA TOWN WOULDN'T, WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND TODAY. BASICALLY WHAT SHE'S LOOKING TO DO IS REZONE THE R THREE, UH, IN ORDER TO, UH, INSTALL OR BUILD A SMALL COTTAGE, UH, HOUSE RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE ON THE, ON THE FRONT SIDE OF ABOUT 1400 SQUARE FEET. UH, SHE'S INVESTED, UH, SIGNIFICANT OVER $20,000 TO, UH, BE ABLE TO GET UTILITIES IN BOTH, BOTH THESE STRUCTURES. AND SO SHE'S ASKING FOR THE R THREE IN ORDER TO, UH, UH, COMPLY WITH THE U D C AND, AND, UH, THE, UH, THE CODE FOR, FOR SMALL HOUSING. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE CASE. AND SO WE'LL BE REPLANTING THIS PROPERTY IN ORDER THAT WE CAN GET US TO BE LOST IN. THANK YOU MR. PONTA. SETH, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, SIR. ALRIGHT. IS ANYONE PRESENT IN THE HEARING ROOM TO DISCUSS THIS ITEM? ANYONE BESIDES CITY STAFF AND MR. LEE PRESENT FOR ANY ITEM? UH, ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, THIS IS THE DISTRICT ONE CASE AND AS WE MENTIONED, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS ABSENT, SO COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL TO YOU. THANK YOU. AND, UM, SO QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. DO YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF A PRELIMINARY DRAWING DRAWING THAT SHOWS US THE SETUP OF HOW THESE DWELLINGS WOULD BE PLACED? WELL, THE NEXT DWELLING IS GONNA BE [01:35:01] IN THE FRONT. UM, THIS IS A KIND OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT. I CAN SHOW YOU, UM, OF, OF THE, UH, THE, THE, THE TWO, AS I SAID, WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING BACK TO YOU GETTING USED TO IN PERSON AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA GET THERE. YEAH. SO AGAIN, THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PLA THAT THE STRUCTURE, UH, THOSE TWO LOTS OF STRUCTURES, EXISTING STRUCTURES ON THE, ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE. AND THEN THE VACANT PARCEL WILL BE ON THE FRONT END SIDE OF, FRONT SIDE OF, UH, AGAIN UP AGAINST RIPLEY AVENUE. AND THEN YOU HAVE A 16 FOOT, UH, AUDI, UH, THAT'S BLOWING STATE SAN ANTONIO. OF COURSE. OKAY. SO MY QUESTION IS, WHERE WOULD THE PARKING BE FOR THIS ADDITIONAL DWELLING? UM, IT'S GONNA BE OFF THE FRONT. IT'LL BE OFF THE, THE, UM, IT'LL BE OFF THE FRONT OFF OF RIPLEY. WE'LL, WE'LL PUT IT IN THE SUNSET. WE'LL, WE'LL IT'LL BE BEHIND, BEHIND THE SETBACK OF THE 20 FOOT. AND SO IT'LL, IT'S GONNA BE A VERY SMALL COTTAGE IN ORDER TO GET THAT, UH, UH, PARKING. OKAY. UM, AND THANK YOU. QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, WHO GIVES SOME FEEDBACK THAT I'VE RECEIVED? WHO OWNS THE ALLEYWAY HERE? IS THAT A CITY ALLEYWAY OR IS THAT A PRIVATE I CITY. RIGHT WAY? IT IS CITY RIGHT WAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, SO THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE RIGHT NOW. OPENING UP FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER DANIELLE, CAN I SHARE SOME OF MY LEFT QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER O MIDDLE? YEAH. FOR STAFF. SO IF WE APPROVE THE REZONING AND THEN IT GETS RE PLATTED, I'M ASSUMING THEY ONLY WANT TO ZONING ON THE FRONT PART, RIGHT? ONCE IT'S RE PLATTED. HOW, HOW DO WE KEEP IT FROM HAVING R THREE ON THE WHOLE, ON BOTH LOTS. IT IS FOR BOTH. SO THEN THE EXISTING STRUCTURE WILL BE IN COMPLIANCE WHEN IT'S REZONED. SO RIGHT NOW THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, R SIX IS ZONED UP. SO WHEN HE RE SUBDIVIDES AND EACH LOT JUST NEEDS TO MEET THE MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE OF R OF R R THREE, WHICH IS THE 3000 SQUARE FOOT LOT SIZE, UM, THEY'LL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH SETBACKS. IF THE CURRENT STRUCTURE THEN BECOMES CLOSER TO, UH, EITHER REAR SIDE, DEPENDING UPON WHERE IT'S SITUATED, IT JUST BECOMES NON-CONFORMING. OKAY. I WILL SAY THERE'S A LOT OF NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURES IN THE CENTER CITY AREA 'CAUSE IT BUILT CLOSER THAN FIVE FEET TO THE SIDE IN A LOT OF THESE AREAS. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER ROME, ANYTHING FURTHER? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER? TO MY RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MCGEE QUESTIONS? NO. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THIS IS A DISTRICT, DISTRICT ONE CASE AND COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL'S HANDLING THOSE TODAY, UH, TO YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL FOR, UH, MOTION AND DISCUSSION. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS CASE FORWARD FOR APPROVAL. UM, AND I WILL, UM, ONCE I GET A MOTION, I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT, IS THERE A SECOND MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SECOND. OKAY. COMMISSIONER JONES, A SECOND MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 17. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL TO YOU FOR INITIAL COMMENT. THANK YOU. UM, I UNDERSTAND ALL OF YOUR CITIZENS SUPPORTED THIS CASE, BUT WE HAVE GOTTEN SOME FEEDBACK THAT THERE IS SOME DISAGREEMENT OVER USE OF THAT ALLEYWAY AND AS WE JUST DETERMINED IT'S CITY RIGHT OF WAY. SO THAT SHOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE GOING FORWARD. BUT I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND TO YOU THAT YOU WORK OUT AS SOMEWHAT OF A SCHEMATIC WITH SOME PARKING TO HELP ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS THAT WILL BE FORTHCOMING. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ANY OTHER COMMENT? DISCUSSION FROM COMMISSIONER TO MY RIGHT. FROM COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER MCGEE. ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER REBUTS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. MOTION PASSES WITH APPROVAL. NINE TO ZERO. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AS I THINK WE MENTIONED EARLIER, THANK YOU MR. GONZALEZ. UH, AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER, I BELIEVE THAT'S IT FOR OUR ZONING CASES. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 20, WHICH IS A CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF JULY 20TH, 2021. ZONING COMMISSION MINUTES. MAY I ASK A QUESTION? I'M SORRY. YES. COMMISSIONER ME , WHO'S TALKING TO ME? I, I DID, I I MISSED THE MINUTES. I THOUGHT I KEPT LOOKING, BUT MAYBE I, I DUNNO. DID WAS THAT, I, I DON'T THINK I GOT THE MINUTES, I THOUGHT, BUT [20. 21-4984 Consideration and Approval of the July 20, 2021 Zoning Commission minutes. ] [01:40:53] I THINK YOU BROUGHT UP A COUPLE OF TIMES. UH, CAN WE DEFER CONSIDERATION? LOOK FOR VERONICA'S EMAIL. SHE ATTACHED THEM. SHE SENT IT ABOUT TWO O'CLOCK OR SO. BUT REMEMBER THEY'RE ALWAYS ATTACHED IN THE AGENDA. YOU JUST HAVE TO CLICK TO IT. YOU CAN LOOK RIGHT NOW ON THE AGENDA THAT'S ON YOUR SCREEN. YEP. MY APOLOGIES. FORGETTING ABOUT THE ALTERNATE WAY TO GET TO THE . I'M SORRY, BUT YEAH, BUT SHE SAID THAT YOU, YEAH, SHE SAID SHE ALSO ATTACHED IT AS AN ATTACHMENT. THE TWO O'CLOCK WITH THE PARKING PASS OR RECUSAL FORMS, ALL OF THAT. YOU SHOULD RECEIVED IT. OH, MAYBE. 'CAUSE I DIDN'T GET THE PARKING PASS IN THE RECUSAL FORMS MAYBE, BUT, UM, YEAH, I, I SHOULD REMEMBER ABOUT BEING ABLE TO JUST GIVE THEM MYSELF. MY APOLOGIES. ALRIGHT. UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. GEE. COMMISSIONERS ANY, UH, ADDITIONS? AMENDMENTS, CORRECTIONS, MARGINALIA. AM I LEFT? AM I RIGHT? COMMISSIONER GEE, IN THE 30 SECONDS YOU'VE HAD TO REVIEW IT. ALRIGHT. I'VE NOT REVIEWED IT. I'M GOOD. YOU'RE HEARING NONE. IS THERE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. SECOND. THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED BY COMMISSIONER RE BOTTLES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SIPES. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER WHITE. EXCUSE ME. COMMISSIONER BARDOS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE. YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER MCGEE ABSTAIN. COMMISSIONER WHEAT? AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR. AYE. MOTION PASSES. EIGHT ZERO. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. I BELIEVE TODAY WE DO HAVE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT TO ADDRESS LOGISTICS, UH, FOR THE IN-PERSON MEETINGS. SO MS. HERNANDEZ, IT'S UP TO YOU. SO WE DID TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT IN WORK SESSION. UM, SO I GUESS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS YOU'VE KIND OF SEEN HOW IT'S ALL KIND OF, KIND OF PLAIN OUT. UM, WE'RE TROUBLESHOOTING ALONG THE WAY. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE TRYING TO SEE HOW WE, UH, SHOW JOY UP ON THE SCREEN, LIKE RIGHT NOW SEE US AND I'D RATHER SEE JOY. MAYBE I'D RATHER SEE JOY. UM, SO , UM, SEE, YOU SEE HOW THEY CAN CHANGE THE CAMERA ANGLES BACK THERE. THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT THE PUBLIC SEE [Director Report: Logistics for In-Person Meetings ] SEES, UM, WHEN THEY'RE WATCHING, UH, THE MEETING. BUT HERE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THE COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE VIRTUAL ARE, UH, CONSISTENT ON THE SCREEN. SO AS THEY'RE TALKING, YOU'LL SEE THEM. IF YOU'RE TALKING TO THEM, YOU'LL SEE THEM. UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE WE ADD THROUGH THE WEBEX, A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT THAT BECOMES, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'D LOVE TO SEE YOUR FACES HERE AS OFTEN AS WE CAN. SO PLEASE, YOU KNOW, HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO ATTEND. PLUS I THINK THE PUBLIC LOOKS TO YOU GUYS TOO. UM, SO I MEAN, AGAIN, IT'S UP TO YOU. SO IF THERE'S ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU HAVE, UM, RELATED TO THE ROOM, ROOM SETUP, HOW WE HELP TO, UH, CROWD CONTROL TODAY WAS BETTER BECAUSE THERE WASN'T THAT MANY CASES. THE NEXT MEETING IS GONNA BE ABOUT 26 CASES AT LEAST, PLUS ANY CONTINUANCES FROM TODAY. SO IT'S, YEAH, WE ARE DONE FROM TODAY. OKAY, GOOD. SO YEAH, 26. SO IT'S GONNA BE QUITE A BIT. WE HAD TO GET THROUGH A BACKLOG AND SO, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THROUGH THAT BACKLOG. SO WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO GROUND CONTROL, BUT NOW I WANNA HEAR FROM YOU, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? ALRIGHT, WELL I'M UPSET ABOUT THE BALDING SPOT CAMERA, BUT, UM, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT. SO, UH, COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, RECOMMENDATIONS. WE'RE GONNA START WITH COMMISSIONER O MIDDLE. UM, THIS WAS REALLY GOOD AND I, I FELT LIKE JOY WAS IN THE ROOM WITH US. UM, SO I THINK IT WAS REALLY GOOD. I, YOU KNOW, I FEEL SAFE UP HERE AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA BE LIKE IN TWO WEEKS, BUT SEEING HOW CLOSE PEOPLE ARE SITTING OUT THERE, I DON'T THINK, I MEAN, THAT'S MAKING ME UNCOMFORTABLE SEEING PEOPLE HAVE [01:45:01] TO SIT THAT CLOSE TOGETHER AND I THINK IT'S MIGHT KEEP PEOPLE FROM WANTING TO COME IN. UM, WE CAN TAKE OUT HERE. SO THAT'S WHAT YOU RECOMMEND? THAT'S MY PERSONAL IDEA. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 36, SO IT JUST PUTS PEOPLE OUT IN THE LOBBY, BUT IT'S REALLY CLOSE TOGETHER. UM, THE OTHER THING JUST FOR ME, I MAYBE THESE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ON, IT'S REALLY HARD TO SEE. I KNOW THE SCREENS NEED TO BE WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE, BUT, UM, IT'S REALLY HARD TO SEE THE SCREENS FROM HERE. SO, SO IN ORDER TO SEE THE SCREENS THERE, THOSE WILL BE WORKING. WE'RE WORKING WITH A CONTRACTOR TO FIX 'EM. HOPEFULLY THEY'RE FIXING 'EM LATER TODAY THAT HE'S JUST ON THE FRITZ. SO, UH, THAT ONE IS, IS BEING FIXED. SO THAT ONE WILL BE FIXED AND YOU'LL SEE THE SAME THING THAT IS, UH, BROADCAST THOSE TVS AS WELL, SO YOU'RE ABLE TO KINDA LOOK AROUND. BUT YES, THOSE SCREENS WILL HAVE WHAT'S UH, DISPLAYED ON THE OVERHEAD, WHICH IS TYPICALLY THE POWERPOINT. UM, PICTURES, ANY AND ANYTHING THAT WE ZOOM IN ON THAT WILL BE IN FRONT OF YOU SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO CLEAN YOUR NECKS EACH TIME. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROME. I THINK I AGREE WITH HER REGARDING THE SEATS. THAT'S, I WOULD SAY BETWEEN FOUR AND NINE. GOTTA GET RID OF THEM. UM, BUT ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER S I'LL LEAVE YOU'RE NEXT. OH, MINE WAS JUST ABOUT THE, THE SCREENS AS WELL. SO THAT WAS IT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER WHEAT. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. SO I GUESS WITH, UH, US HAVING TO WORK FROM HOME, UH, I'M USED TO SEEING A MUCH LARGER SCREEN. THE WORKFLOWS, UH, ON THE MUCH LARGER SCREEN IS BETTER THAN WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE. SO IS THERE A CONSIDERATION TO UPGRADE THESE TINY SCREENS? IF I'M GETTING OLDER, MUCH LARGER SCREENS, WE'LL PUT THAT REQUEST IN JUST TO SEE THE BIGGER THEY GET, THE MORE, LIKE FOR RIGHT NOW I JUST SEE SUSAN'S EYES, SO, UM, VERONICA'S EYES, UH, BUT THE BIGGER THEY GET, THE MORE THEY HIDE YOUR FACES. SO, UM, YES, PLUS WE HAVE LIMITED SPACE UP HERE, SO THE BIGGER THEY GET, THE WIDER THEY GET, WHICH STARTS HIT AGAINST EACH OTHER. SO, I MEAN, WE CAN SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, UH, BUT WE CAN'T GO TOO BIG ON THESE SCREENS. AT ONE POINT THOUGH, YOU HAD BOTH SCREENS WORKING HERE AND WHAT YOU WERE PUTTING UP THERE SHOWED ON THIS SCREEN AND IT'S NOT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS MENTIONING EARLIER. THE CONTRACTOR'S COMING TO FIX THOSE, THOSE ARE THE MONITORS THAT YOU'LL SEE THAT WILL HAVE WHAT'S ON, UM, THE OVERHEAD PROJECTOR LIKE WE USED TO. OKAY. THEY'RE JUST NOT CONNECTED. IT'S NOT BEING SOMETHING, SOME SIGNAL'S NOT GOING THROUGH, SO THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT BACK AREA UNDER YOUR FEET, JARED. SO TO GET BACK THERE AND FIX IT. THE OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO THROW OUT FOR CONSIDERATION HERE IS WE HAVE PEOPLE SITTING IN HERE THAT WEREN'T INVOLVED IN THE BEGINNING CASES. AND, AND IT MAY BE TOO COMPLICATED, BUT MAYBE WE STARTED A SEATING THING, WE'RE GONNA TAKE SEATING FOR WHATEVER CASES AND CLEAR THOSE OUT AND THEN BRING IN THE NEXT BLOCK SO THAT WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE JUST TAKING UP SPACE WHEN SOMEBODY MAYBE WANTED TO COME IN THE ROOM FOR THAT CASE. WE WERE DOING THAT ACTUALLY AT THE BEGINNING. WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE MANY PEOPLE SITTING OUT IN THE LOBBY. UM, BUT WHAT WE ARE DOING IS THE TV THAT IS IN THE TOBIN ROOM TV THAT'S OUT THERE, WE HAVE A NEW TV IN THE HALLWAY, UM, THAT WILL BE CONNECTED TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN HERE. SO THEY'LL HEAR IT AND SEE IT LAST. THEY LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SEEING UP ON THE SCREEN. UM, AND SO THAT WILL HELP. WE'RE ALSO GONNA HAVE STAFF TO HELP MONITOR IF WE HAVE LARGER CROWDS TO CONTROL. WE'LL KEEP THE STAFF OUT THERE SO WE CAN DO, YOU KNOW, SORT OF LIKE NOW SERVING, YOU KNOW, SO-AND-SO'S AND WE'LL BE ANNOUNCING THAT ON THE TV SO THEY'LL HEAR THAT. SO THE TRANSITION BETWEEN EACH, UH, CONSENT ITEM OR CONSENT, UM, GROUP WILL BE LONGER BECAUSE OF THE SEATING. WE NEED TO CHANGE PEOPLE OUT. SO ESPECIALLY I'M GONNA BE LOOKING TO DO THAT PROBABLY THE NEXT MEETING WITH THE 26 CASES. TODAY WAS MANAGEABLE. WE DIDN'T, WE STILL DIDN'T FILL UP ALL THE SEATS AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET EVERYBODY INSIDE, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE LESS CHAIRS NOW, SO IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIGHTER. JUST TRY AND KEEP YOU ON YOUR TOES. UH, ANY OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, RECOMMENDATIONS? THERE'S A CAMERA. I HAVE, UM, , UM, COMMISSIONER MCGEE TO YOU. OH, OKAY. UM, SO IS THERE, UM, CONTROLS FOR SOCIAL DISTANCING IN THE HALLWAYS? WE ARE NOT ENFORCING SOCIAL DISTANCING. IT'S UP TO THEM. WE HIGHLY ENCOURAGE MASKS. WE HIGHLY ENCOURAGE SOCIAL DISTANCING, BUT WE'RE NOT POLICING OR ENFORCING IT. [01:50:01] OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, SO I THINK THAT IT WENT, UH, VERY WELL. I DEFINITELY, WHEN SOMEONE WAS SPEAKING, I WAS ABLE TO SEE THEM, INCLUDING WHEN YOU ALL WERE SPEAKING. I DID MISS VERONICA THOUGH. HEY VERONICA, I NEVER GOT TO SEE YOU, BUT I HEARD YOUR LOVELY VOICE BUT . BUT, UM, BUT, BUT I, I ONLY ONE TIME DID I PANICKED A LITTLE BIT IS WHEN I COULDN'T WHEN UH, BUT MAYBE THEY JUST WEREN'T READY, UM, WHEN I WAS TALKING TO THE APPLICANT AND IT TOOK THEM A SECOND TO, UH, GET TO THE APPLICANT. BUT, UM, I THINK IT WENT EXTREMELY. UH, WELL I DO HAVE ONE OTHER, UH, COMMENT. SO WHEN WE DID THE TEST EARLIER FOR THE, UM, AND I WAS ABLE TO FIGURE OUT ABOUT MY PANELISTS, UM, PASSWORD AND THEN LATER WE DID THE WORK SESSION. I DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT. BUT THEN, UH, AGAIN, WHEN I HAD TO DO MY, UH, PANELISTS, UH, PASSWORD THE SECOND TIME, I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED TO COMMISSIONER KAMATH, BUT IT'S, I HAD TO HAVE TWO PASSWORDS, RIGHT? SO THE ONE THAT I HAVE ASSOCIATED WITH MY ACCOUNT AND THEN I HAD TO HAVE A PANELIST AND IT CAN BE A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING. SO PERHAPS, UM, IF SOMEONE HAS TO DO THIS AGAIN, MAYBE HAVING SCREENSHOTS FOR THEM SO THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY MAKE IT THROUGH WITH THE GUIDE OF WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK IT WENT VERY WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH COMMISSIONER MCGEE FOR THAT PERSPECTIVE. UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO NEED TO SORT OF ADDRESS, UH, THE ISSUE THAT COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER KAMATH HAD, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, PARTICULARLY 'CAUSE AS WE DISCUSSED IN WORK SESSION, UH, IT COULD ONLY BE ME UP HERE. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE WHO IS REMOTE IS ABLE TO GET THERE. AND WE MIGHT NEED, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE JUST SOME HELP RIGHT BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY PEOPLE CHOOSE TO BE REMOTE. UH, ANY OTHER FINAL WORDS? YES, SIR. I, I'LL JUST, OH YEAH, MR. WHITE AND THEN CONSTRUCTING. I'LL JUST SAY THANKS FOR ALL Y'ALL'S WORK. I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT AND, UH, SWITCHING BACK AND FORTH REMOTE HERE. I THINK Y'ALL DID A GREAT JOB AND UM, WE APPRECIATE IT. ALRIGHT, MR. MCCANN. SO GOOD JOB. IT'S NICE TO BACK SEE YOUR FACES AND, UH, TO GET BACK INTO HOPEFULLY A GROOVE HERE. UH, THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO JUST POINT OUT IS EVERYBODY IS PRETTY MUCH WELL SPACED EXCEPT OUR GUYS HERE AT THE FRONT. THAT PODIUM IS PROBABLY A LITTLE CLOSE TO THEM, ESPECIALLY, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GET ONE OR TWO PEOPLE HOVERING AROUND THE, THE MIC. MAYBE WE COULD DO A LITTLE DISTANCE AND THEY'RE EITHER PUSHING THEM BACK TOWARDS YOU GUYS OR PUTTING 'EM OVER. JUST A SUGGESTION. WELL, AGAIN, THANK YOU. I GUESS YOU'RE ONE OF OUR TECHNICAL HELPERS HERE AND IS, IS THIS ANDREW? ANDREW UZMAN. ANDREW. THANK YOU MR. THANK YOU ANDREW. AND I, I CAN SEE YOU WAVING, BUT I, I CAN'T SEE THE REST OF YOU. UH, SO THANK YOU GUYS BACK THERE AS WELL. UH, THANK YOU ALL COMMISSIONERS. UH, YES, WELL WE DO HAVE A, A COUPLE MORE ANNOUNCEMENTS. OKAY, PLEASE. OKAY, SO FIRST OF ALL, LET'S START WITH THE FRESH MEAT, THE NEWBIES. WE HAVE SOME NEW PLANNERS THAT HAVE JOINED US THAT WE'RE VERY, VERY GRATEFUL FOR. SO AS I CALL THEIR NAMES, IF THEY COULD STAND UP AND WAVE UP THE COMMISSION, THAT'D BE GREAT. REBECCA RODRIGUEZ, SHE WAS AN INTERNAL THAT GOT PROMOTED TO PLANNER AND UM, RICHARD, CAN WE, YOUR FACE, WE CAN'T SEE YOUR FACE AT THE MOUTH. AND THEN RICHARD OF VASQUEZ AND THEN FOREST WILSON. AND THEN ONE SAD ANNOUNCEMENT AND ALSO A FIX TO THE TABLE ARRANGEMENT DISTANCING. UH, WE ARE LOSING MICHAEL PEPPY OUR, UH, SENIOR PLANNER. HE HAS BEEN ENTICED AND TAKEN ANOTHER ONE TAKEN BY THE CITY OF DALLAS, SO CONGRATULATIONS TO HIM. WOW. OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION. HAVE I MET JOYCE PALMER BEFORE? I WAS LIKE, I DON'T RECOGNIZE THAT NAME. OH, YOU HAVEN'T, BUT WE HAVEN'T INTRODUCED HER AT ANY OF THE OTHER MEETINGS. THANK YOU FOR THAT. JOYCE, YOU WANNA STAND UP? ALSO, JUST SO YOU KNOW, JOYCE IS ALSO PROMOTED, SO HER TIME WITH US WAS SHORTLIVED. UH, SHE'S HELPING US GET THROUGH, UM, THROUGH CASES RIGHT NOW, BUT, UH, SHE IS SOON MOVING. WELL. SHE'S ALREADY STARTED HER ROLE RESPONSIBILITIES AS A SENIOR PLANNER IN ADDRESSING. OKAY. OH WOW. SUCCESS. AND LAST NAMES, UH, MR. PAPPY, WE APPRECIATE, UM, ALL THE SERVICE THAT YOU'VE GIVEN TO US HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. BLESS YOU. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT, WELL, WE'LL PERFECT. ALRIGHT, WELL WELCOME TO ALL OF THE NEW PEOPLE TO THE DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR ALL YOUR HELP. UH, AS YOU CAN TELL, WE RELY ON YOU A GREAT DEAL. UH, THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR HELP AND CONGRATULATIONS, UH, UH, DON'T NECESSARILY ENVY YOU GOING TO DALLAS, BUT YOU KNOW, . UH, GOOD LUCK MICHAEL. THANK YOU AND GOOD LUCK TO YOU. UH, THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THIS COMMISSION. IT IS 2 56 AND WE ARE AURED. BYE EVERYBODY. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.