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GOOD AFTERNOON.

[2:00 P.M. - Call to Order]

CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME OKAY? ALL RIGHT.

GOOD.

WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON, IT IS 2 0 5.

I'M CALLING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER.

FIRST OF ALL, IT'S GREAT TO SEE, UH, FACES AND IT'S GREAT TO SEE A LOT OF FACES, UM, ALL MASKED UP.

AND SO, UM, ON BEHALF OF THE STAFF, I DO ASK EVERYBODY TO, UM, KEEP THEIR MASK ON, UM, THROUGHOUT THE MEETING.

BUT AGAIN, THANK Y'ALL FOR BEING HERE.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR, UM, YOU BEING HERE AND, AND ACTIVE IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

UH, TO GET STARTED, IF WE CAN PLEASE PLAY THE SPANISH INTERPRETER SERVICES STATEMENT.

AND WHEN I SAY PLAY, IF WE CAN PLEASE ASK THE INTERPRETER TO PLEASE READ THE STATEMENT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I MAY STAFF CONDUCT THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER CHRISTOPHER GARCIA.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? HERE.

COMMISSIONER ZUKI.

PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA.

PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER PROPHET? HERE.

COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE.

PRESENT.

MR. ORIAN? HERE.

COMMISSIONER HINES, VICE CHAIR PECK HERE.

MADAM CHAIR GONZALEZ.

HERE.

A QUORUM IS PRESENT.

UH, NEXT UP.

DO WE STILL NEED TO READ THE MEETING FORMAT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT VIRTUAL? NO.

OKAY.

TIME SAVED.

OKAY.

WE HAVE, UH, TWO, UH, AGENDAS TODAY.

THE INDIVIDUAL AND CONSENT AGENDA, ALL ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED ON THE, IN, UM, ON THE CONSENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEMS NUMBER 16, 19, AND 24.

AND NUMBER 17 HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.

[Public Comment]

I DO HAVE A LONG LIST OF, UH, THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF SEVERAL ITEMS. AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO ASK, UH, FOR CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.

I DO HAVE ONE FOR ITEM NUMBER 22, WHICH IS ON CONSENT.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE YOUR TWO MINUTES AT THIS POINT, MR. THOMAS WOOD? YEAH, SURE.

UM, I'M THE ONE THAT SUBMITTED THE REQUEST.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF I HAD THE ONE.

ONE SECOND.

IF YOU CAN SAY YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE.

YEAH, MY NAME IS THOMAS WOOD.

UH, 1 2 9 1 4 LONE STAR LEAF.

UM, AND THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY ON OLD TZE.

I SUBMITTED THE REQUEST.

IT'S FOR, UH, TWO SMALL ASSISTED LIVING, UH, HOMES.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF I HAD TO BE HERE, BUT I WANTED TO BE HERE IN CASE THERE WAS ANY QUESTIONS SO THAT I COULD ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT, THAT YOU GUYS HAD.

IS THERE ANYTHING I NEED TO, CURRENTLY IT'S ON CONSENT, AND SO UNLESS IT'S PULLED, UM, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHTY.

THANK YOU, MR. WOOD.

APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY.

UH,

[Consent Agenda]

AT THIS TIME I'LL TAKE A MOTION FOR THE, TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SO MOVED.

SECOND.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PECK.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

PROFIT ROLL CALL PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER PECK? YES.

COMMISSIONER PROFIT? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHRISTOPHER GARCIA? YES.

COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES.

COMMISSIONER ZUKI.

APPROVED.

COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA? YES.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES.

CHAIR GONZALEZ? YES.

MOTION.

MOTION PASSES AS APPROVAL.

THANK

[16. PUD 21-11700002 - Request by SCB Fund V, LLC., for approval of an amendment to a Planned Unit Development to establish Old Blanco Road (P.U.D.), generally located northwest of the intersection of Blanco Road and Old Blanco Road. Staff Recommends Approval. (Joshua Orton, Planner, (210) 207-8050, Joshua.Orton@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department).]

YOU.

OKAY, NEXT UP ON OUR AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER 16.

WOULD WE PER, DO WE HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION FOR ITEM NUMBER 16? YES, WE DO.

UM, SO THE SUMMARY IS, IT'S A REQUEST BY S C B FUND V L L C FOR APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO ESTABLISH OLD BLANCO ROAD.

PUD GENERALLY LOCATED NORTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF BLANCO ROAD AND OLD BLANCO

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ROAD STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THANK YOU.

DANIEL, IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT AND WOULD THEY LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION? YES, SIR.

HELLO, GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME'S SEAN BORG AND MY ADDRESS, I'M WITH KILN GRIFFIN FAIRMOUNT.

AND WE'RE AT 100 NORTHEAST LOOP FOUR 10, SUITE SIX 50.

UM, WE HAVE THAT PRESENTATION SECONDS? YEP.

ALRIGHT.

UM, FIRST, UH, UM, THANKS FOR, THANK YOU FOR LETTING US, UH, PRESENT TO YOU GUYS TODAY.

SO WE'RE HERE, UH, TO ASK THE COMMISSION'S APPROVAL, UH, TO, TO, UH, FOR THE OLD BLANCO PUD AND SPECIFICALLY WE'RE REQUESTING A 10 FOOT REDUCTION TO THE 20 FOOT, UH, PERIMETER SETBACK REQUIREMENT.

UM, UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

OKAY, THAT'S GOOD.

SORRY.

THAT'S FINE.

UM, SO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HERE.

IT'S BEEN USED FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES SINCE 1965, UM, WHEN THE HOUSE WAS FIRST, UH, BUILT ON THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, IT'S NOT A GREEN BELT OR, AH, THANK YOU.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

SO, UH, THIS IS THE, UH, ONE, ONE FAMILY STRUCTURE AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER ONE BACK IN HERE.

UH, THERE'S A FENCE ALL THE WAY AROUND THE PERIMETER AND, UH, THERE WAS A FENCE BACK HERE, BUT IT'S BEEN SINCE TORN DOWN.

UM, AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S BEEN USED AS A RESIDENCE.

IT'S, IT'S NOT A GREENWAY, IT'S NOT A A DRAINAGE EASEMENT.

UH, IT'S NOT A NATURAL, UH, AREA.

IT IS A SINGLE FAMILY, UM, RESIDENCE.

UH, CURRENTLY IT'S ZONED RMM FOUR PUD.

UM, HOWEVER, IT WAS ORIGINALLY ZONED UPON ANNEXATION IN 1985, UH, TO P ONE R SIX, OUR PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT, TOWNHOUSE RESIDENCE.

UM, THANK YOU.

UH, THE ZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY, HOWEVER, THOUGH, WAS INITIALLY B THREE NA, SO THEY WANTED TO PUT A PRETTY HIGH INTENSE COMMERCIAL USE IN THERE.

AND, AND THAT WAS BECAUSE, UM, THE SURROUNDING AREA WAS BEING DEVELOPED FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES.

UM, HOWEVER, THE HOMEOWNERS AROUND, UH, AT THE TIME OPPOSED THAT.

AND, UM, THEY CITED SEVERAL REASONS, BUT ONE OF THE REASONS, UH, THAT THEY WERE OPPOSED, UH, WAS BECAUSE THE, THEY FELT THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WAS AN INTRUSION INTO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, WHICH MAKES SENSE 'CAUSE IT IS SANDWICHED BY, UM, RESIDENTIAL AND THEN HIGH, HIGH, UM, HIGH INTENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH.

UH, ONE MORE, AND ANOTHER ONE.

SO THIS IS ACTUALLY AN AERIAL FROM 1977.

SO HERE WE CAN SEE, UH, THE HOUSE AND SOME OUT STRUCTURES AND THE PROPERTY RUNS THIS WAY HERE.

AND IF YOU NOTICE, THERE'S NOTHING TO THE, UH, NORTH OR TO THE SOUTH BEING DEVELOPED AROUND THERE.

UH, COULD YOU, UH, SO HOWEVER, OVER TIME, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WAS, WAS ESTABLISHED ALL AROUND THE PROPERTY.

UM, AND SO WHAT, WHAT THE PUD IS, IS TRYING TO DO IS TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP, UH, A BIG, UM, A MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREA, UH, IN BETWEEN THE, THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND THEN THE HIGH END RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH.

UM, ONE MORE.

THANK YOU.

UM, AS Y'ALL KNOW, THESE ARE THE, THE CIRCUMSTANCES IN WHICH A A PUD SHOULD BE EMPLOYED.

UM, UM, LIKE I SAID, OUR PUD WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1985.

UM, OUR PUD ACTUALLY MEETS, UM, ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS, BUT SPECIFICALLY, UM, WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS.

BUT IN ORDER TO ENHANCE AND MAXIMIZE THE, UM, THE NATURAL AMENITIES AND, AND, AND, AND RESOURCES AROUND, NAMELY THE TREES THAT EXIST, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, UH, DEVELOP A MORE EFFICIENT, UH, LOT LAYOUT, DESIGN AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO INFILL, UH, DEVELOP AN INFILL PROJECT IN THIS VERY UNIQUE LOT.

AS YOU CAN SEE, OR AS YOU SAW, IT'S VERY NARROW.

IT'S 3.77 ACRES.

UM, AND IT, ITS LOCATION IS VERY UNIQUE.

THE TOPOGRAPHY, UH, SLOPES DOWN TOWARDS THE END OF, OF THE, OF THE LOT TOWARDS THE NORTH.

UM, AND THERE, THERE ARE, UH, SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES TO DEVELOP THIS AREA.

SO THIS IS, UH, THESE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE CURRENT CONDITIONS ON SITE.

SO UNFORTUNATELY THE, THE RESIDENCES ON SITE HAVE, HAVE GONE TO, TO SOME, SOME DISREPAIR.

UM, I TOOK A LOOK AT THE GOOGLE STREET VIEW, AND IT, IT SEEMED AS THOUGH AROUND 2014 IS WHEN THE PROPERTY WENT UP FOR SALE, UH, FOR, AND WAS NO LONGER BEING USED, UM, UH, CONSISTENTLY AS A RESIDENCE.

BUT AS WE CAN SEE, IT'S,

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IT'S, UH, SINCE BEEN USED AS A RESIDENCE, UH, NOT NECESSARILY, UM, LEGALLY.

AGAIN, ONE MORE PLEASE.

SO THIS IS A, A VIEW OF IF YOU'RE FACING THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, UM, THIS IS THE, THE FENCING THAT'S ALONG, UH, THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

UM, IF YOU NOTICE THE MAJORITY OF THE NATURAL BUFFER, THE EXISTING TREES IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE AND NOT ON OUR PROPERTY.

UM, SO THIS IS A VIEW, THE VIEW ON THE LEFT HERE IS, UM, THE, UH, TOWARDS THE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY AND THE FENCE LINE.

AND THEN THIS IS THE VIEW, UH, LOOKING PRETTY MUCH AT THE SAME SPOT, BUT LOOKING DOWN TO WHERE THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES CURRENTLY EXIST.

SO THIS IS OUR PLAN.

SO THERE'S BEEN SOME CONCERN ABOUT, UM, WHAT WAS IN THE STAFF REPORT.

SO JUST TO CLEAR EVERYTHING UP, WE ARE, WE ARE ASKING FOR 28 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.

UH, THAT'S ALL.

WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR, UH, QUADPLEXES OR, UM, ANY SORT OF HIGHER INTENSITY.

EVERY LOT WILL HAVE ONE BUILDING.

UM, WE'LL HAVE ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

AND WE'VE, WE'RE ACTUALLY KEEPING ALL OF OUR, UH, RE WE'RE RETAINING ALL OF OUR WATER ON SITE AND WE'RE ACTUALLY IMPROVING THIS DRAINAGE EASEMENT RIGHT HERE.

UM, SO CURRENTLY, UM, THERE'S A 75 FOOT C P S EASEMENT THAT RUNS ALONG THE BACKS OF THE PROPERTY.

I KNOW THAT, UH, THE WAY THAT IT WAS PLATTED, UM, IT WAS ACTUALLY PLATTED AS A PART OF THOSE, UH, SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES.

UM, HOWEVER, I, I, I DO BELIEVE TODAY THAT, THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE THE CASE.

UH, BUT THIS DOES PROVIDE A NATURAL BUFFER OF 75 FEET FOR THESE PROPERTIES HERE.

AND AS IN THOSE PHOTOS SHOW THERE'S TREES, UH, ALL ALONG THIS SECTION OF IT HERE.

UH, ONE CONCERN THAT'S COME UP, UH, IN TALKING WITH THE RESIDENTS, UM, IS DRAINAGE.

AND THEY STATED THAT THERE'S A LOT OF FLOODING DOWN HERE, UH, ALONG THESE PROPERTIES AND FURTHER SOUTH WITHIN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO IN LOOKING AT THE PLAT A LOT CLOSER, I NOTICED THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY 12 FOOT PRIVATE DRAINAGE EASEMENT.

SO, AND THAT WAS PLATTED AS A PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO FROM THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S INCEPTION, UH, THEY, THEY WERE, THEY KNEW, UH, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPERS KNEW THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE WATER GOING, GOING THROUGH THOSE AREAS.

UM, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN AMENITY CENTER OVER HERE, THE GATED ENTRANCE EXIT.

AND AGAIN, OUR, OUR DRAINAGE.

SO THIS IS GONNA BE A PRIVATE DRIVE, SO THIS IS OUR REDUCED PERIMETER SETBACK.

THAT'S FINE, THAT'S FINE.

SO THESE ARE SOME RENDERINGS OF THE HOMES, UM, THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, TO BUILD.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

ANOTHER RENDERING.

SO, AND THIS IS WHAT A, THE TYPICAL BLOCK FACE IS GONNA LOOK LIKE.

SO WHAT, WHAT'S, UH, AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR AND WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY IS THE APPROVAL OR DENIAL OR MODIFICATION OF THE 10 FOOT PERIMETER SETBACK.

SO WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF, IF IT'S DENIED? SO WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS THE, THE DESTRUCTION OF MORE TREES.

SO, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, WE'RE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF TREES, UM, PRESERVING AS MANY TREES AS POSSIBLE ON THIS SITE.

UM, ONE THING, UH, THAT, THAT WON'T ALLOW IF WE DO HAVE TO MOVE IT IS, UM, WE MIGHT HAVE TO LOOK, UM, AT OTHER OPTIONS.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S GONNA RESULT IN, IN, IN THE REDUCTION OF TREES.

UM, ONE, ONE PROPOSAL THAT WAS MADE BY THE RESIDENTS WAS FLIPPING THE, THE ROAD, UM, TO THE OTHER SIDE.

UM, OUR CONCERN WITH THAT, AGAIN, IS THE DESTRUCTION OF TREES.

UM, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY IT'S GONNA BE MORE VEHICLE TRAFFIC ALONG THOSE PROPERTIES, SIGNIFICANT VEHICULAR NOISE, UH, LIGHT POLLUTION, AIR POLLUTION, UM, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PREPARE A WHOLE NEW STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN.

SO AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW THIS, PUD HAS GONE THROUGH THE INITIAL AND FINAL APPROVAL PROCESS WITH THE CITY.

THEY LOOKED AT EVERY ASPECT OF THIS PUD AND THEY HAVE APPROVED IT.

THAT'S WHY IT'S HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY.

SO THE CITY HAS AGREED, UH, HAS DECIDED THAT, THAT IT IS, IT IS GOOD, IT IS MEETING TODAY'S CODE.

WE'RE NOT VESTING TO ANY PREVIOUS OR PRIOR CODES.

UH, WE ARE MEETING ALL OF TODAY'S CODE REQUIREMENTS AND, UM, AND AGAIN, THE CITY HAS, HAS SIGNED OFF ON IT.

SO WHAT WILL APPROVAL MEAN? SO APPROVAL WILL MEAN THE MAX AMOUNT OF, UH, TREE PRESERVATION, NO VEHICULAR TRAFFIC ALONG THE REARS OF THOSE PROPERTIES AND ALLOWING DEVELOP TO, TO, OF THE PROJECT TO ACTUALLY OCCUR AS A, AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED IN 1985.

SO IN SUMMARY, AGAIN, IT'S NOT A GREEN BELT, IT'S NOT A NATURAL AREA.

UM, IT'S BEEN USED AS A RESIDENCE SINCE 1965.

IT ACTUALLY PREDATES, AGAIN, IT PREDATES THE SURROUNDING, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS AND MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THE PROPERTY'S BEEN DESIGNATED FOR TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT SINCE 1985.

THAT WAS A COMPROMISE WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS.

THEY ALL AGREED THAT THAT WAS THE

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APPROPRIATE USE FOR THIS LAND, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TODAY.

UH, THE PERIMETER SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FROM THE 1985 PUD ACTUALLY WERE, UH, THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF THE PUDS BASED ZONING DISTRICT.

SO AS OF TODAY, UH, IT WAS, UH, A PART OF THE 2001 CONVERSION PROCESS AND IT BECAME RMM FOUR.

RMM FOUR ACTUALLY ALLOWS, UH, FOR 10 FOOT PERIMETER, OR I'M SORRY, 10 FOOT REAR AND 10 FOOT FRONT SETBACKS.

UM, SO AGAIN, IT'S BEING, IT'S BEING, IT'S BEING REQUESTED OR THE REDUCTION IN SETBACK IS BEING REQUESTED WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY OWNERS IN MIND.

UM, IT, IT WILL NOT PER, UH, IMPACT THE ALREADY PRESERVE 75 FOOT C P S EASEMENT.

UH, IT JUST ADDS ANOTHER 10 FEET TO IT.

UM, AND AGAIN, IT HAS THE SAME, IT, IT, IT JUST WILL ALLOW THE PUD TO BE IN LINE WITH THE ACTUAL BASE ZONING DISTRICT'S REQUIREMENTS.

UM, AND, UH, AGAIN, IT'LL MAXIMIZE TREE PRESERVATION AND MAINTAIN THE CURRENT LEVEL OF PRIVACY ENJOYED BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

AND HERE WE ARE.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, THANK YOU.

WE'LL RESERVE QUESTIONS, UM, AFTER CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY.

UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS SIGNED UP.

UH, FIRST UP, MARIAH SMITH.

UH, PLEASE STATE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.

HI, I AM MARIAH SMITH, AND I LIVE AT 1 3 4 2 7 SHORE CLIFF, UH, WHICH IS IN THE CHURCHILL FOREST NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND, UM, MOSTLY I JUST WANNA SAY THAT, UH, I WOULD, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE, UM, NO FOR, UH, THE, UH, 10 FOOT, UM, UH, ADJUSTMENT.

AND, UM, AND, UH, ANY NEIGHBORS THAT I HAVE SPOKEN WITH AS WELL, UM, HAVE, UH, VERY STRONGLY SAID THAT THEY FEEL THAT IT SHOULD BE A STRONG NO.

AND, UM, UH, OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T WANNA USE TOO MUCH TIME.

I'D RATHER SEED SOME OF MY TIME TO SOME OF MY OTHER NEIGHBORS WHO MIGHT HAVE A LITTLE MORE TO SAY.

BUT, UM, I DO FEEL LIKE THAT THIS IS, THIS IS JUST A WHOLE, UM, BASKET OF, OF POSSIBLE PROBLEMS FOR THE DEVELOPERS.

AND THERE'VE BEEN A HISTORY OF A NUMBER OF PROBLEMS BEFORE FOR DEVELOPERS FROM WHAT NEIGHBORS HAVE SAID.

UM, AS FAR AS FLIPPING THE ROAD GOES, UM, A NUMBER OF NEIGHBORS HAVE SAID THEY WANTED THE ROAD FLIPPED.

I WOULD, I DO PERSONALLY FEEL THAT IF IT, IF THE ROAD GOES IN, UM, I WOULD RATHER HAVE IT ON THAT OTHER, ON, AS IT AS IT'S DRAWN THERE.

UH, UH, IF IT GOES IN, UM, MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS JUST THINKING ABOUT HOW IN THE WORLD WOULD IT BE WORKABLE FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO WOULD BE THERE, NOT NECESSARILY THE RESIDENTS OF, UM, OF CHURCHILL FOREST.

BUT, UH, IF, IF SOMEBODY HAS THEIR DAUGHTER-IN-LAW COME AND VISIT OR SOMETHING, UM, WHERE WOULD THEY PARK? AND, UH, THEN IF THEY'RE PARKED THERE, UM, HOW WOULD THE GARBAGE BE COLLECTED? UM, UH, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF, UH, SOMEBODY NEEDED AN AMBULANCE? UM, AND HOW MUCH, UH, PEOP HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD WIND UP PARKING ON OLD BLANCO ROAD BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T BE PERMITTED TO PARK RIGHT THERE BECAUSE OF, UM, UH, FIRE CODE ISSUES.

AND SO, UM, IMAGINE THERE ARE ONLY TWO AREAS WHERE YOU CAN TURN AROUND AND I'M JUST TRYING TO IMAGINE 28 FAMILIES AND HOW IN THE WORLD THEY, THEY WOULD DO IT AND THIS KIND OF THING WOULD WORK A LOT BETTER IN A, IN, UH, CLOSER TO THE CITY CENTER.

UM, BUT IF YOU ALSO TAKE A LOOK AT THE TERRAIN AND, AND, UH, THANK YOU, MS. SMITH GOES, THAT'S BEEN TWO MINUTES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

I WAS TRYING GIVE YOU TIME.

NEXT UP, UH, JOAN LA, FIRST AND LAST NAME, ADDRESS IN TWO MINUTES, MA'AM.

YES.

JOAN LAVIS, UM, ADDRESS, 1 3 2 0 2 SHORE CLIFF.

UM, SOME PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CAN REMEMBER WHEN THE APARTMENTS WERE NOT THERE.

I CANNOT APOLOGIES.

CAN YOU SPEAK CLOSER TO THE MIC? OKAY, THANK YOU.

UM, I'M, I'M RELATIVELY NEW TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE CHOSE THE, THE HOUSE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT WAS CLOSE TO THE PARK AND WE LIKED THE SPACE.

UM, THE CITY, I KNOW THAT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO HAS THE SPACE REQUIREMENTS.

I, I UNDERSTAND THAT SAN ANTONIO'S GROWING.

I RECOGNIZE THAT AND THAT'S GOOD, AND I DO WANNA BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT IF YOU REDUCE THAT CUSHION, THAT SPACE CUSHION BETWEEN US AND THE OTHER PEOPLE, THEN YOU SET US UP TO RESENT OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR NEW NEIGHBORS.

THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

JOSH DEL BARRIO.

MY NAME IS JOSH

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DEL BARRIO.

I LIVE IN 1806 TURN MILL.

I, LET'S SEE, I MOVED INTO CHURCHILL FOREST AT AGE THREE.

AT 32 I INHERITED MY HOUSE.

AND THIS YEAR MY LIFELONG NEIGHBORS CONSPIRED TO ELECT ME TO THE H O A BOARD.

AND I WAS ELECTED VP.

UH, I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A KID, THE PROPERTY ON OLD BLANCO, UH, THERE'S STILL SIGNAGE THERE.

IT WAS CALLED CANDLE SHOE.

THERE WAS A FAMILY THAT RAISED WOLVES THERE ACTUALLY.

AND, UH, I BELIEVE SOMETIME IN THE NINETIES THERE'S JUST ONLY ONE FAMILY LIVING ON THAT PROPERTY.

AND EVER SINCE THERE'S BEEN SO MANY DEVELOPERS PLAYING HOT POTATO WITH THE PROPERTY, BECAUSE AS SOON AS THEY GET TO A DEVELOPMENT STAGE, THEY RUN INTO ALL SORTS OF PROBLEMS WITH THE SOIL BECAUSE THERE IS NONE 'CAUSE IT'S ALL ROCK AND DRAINAGE.

AS WELL AS I REMEMBER A SEMI-TRUCK BOTTOMING OUT TRYING TO JUST ENTER THE DRIVEWAY AND IT WAS STUCK THERE FOR A FEW HOURS.

AND, UH, I JUST DON'T SEE WHY A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN HOT POTATO FOR SO LONG HASN'T BEEN REZONED PROPER.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ARMANDO RODRIGUEZ.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS ARMANDO RODRIGUEZ.

I LIVE AT 1711 HOUNDS RISE AND THEY'RE IN THE CHURCHILL FOREST SUBDIVISION.

UH, WE'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 1985.

PICK IT UP.

OKAY.

IT'S BEEN THERE SINCE 1985.

WE LOVE THE AREA BECAUSE OF THE, OF ALL THE TREES THAT'S AROUND THERE.

THE NEIGHBORS ARE GREAT.

THAT BACK LOT, UH, THAT LIMP EMPTY LOT THAT'S BEEN THERE A LONG TIME.

OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM IS YOU'RE TRYING TO MOVE THAT PROPERTY CLOSER TO US.

THERE'S NO PRIVACY THERE.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME TREES THERE, SOME PEOPLE HAVE NO TREES THERE.

SO SOMEBODY'S LOOKING OVER YOUR, INTO YOUR HOUSE ALL THE TIME.

THERE'S FLOODING ISSUES, THERE'S FIRE ISSUES.

UH, WHERE ARE YOU GONNA PARK YOUR CAR? AS MOST OF THE PEOPLE THINK WE AND BEHIND OUR PROPERTY, FOUR UNITS ARE GONNA BE THERE.

CAN YOU, WOULD YOU LIKE THAT IN BACK IN YOUR BACKYARD? WOULD YOU LIKE IT? WOULD Y'ALL LIKE IT? NO.

NOBODY WANTS FOUR DIFFERENT UNITS.

'CAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THE PEOPLE ARE FOR SAFETY OR IF THEY'RE GONNA TAKE CARE OF THE FAMILY.

THE GENTLEMAN SAID THAT THE PROPERTY'S GONNA BE SIMILAR TO OURS.

IT'S NO WAY SIMILAR TO OUR PROPERTY.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S MAYBE IN YOUR PROPERTY, BUT NOT OUR PROPERTY.

YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION.

IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY VEHICLES.

MOST PEOPLE HAVE TWO VEHICLES, THEN YOU HAVE KIDS HAVE THREE OR FOUR VEHICLES, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE PARKED IN THERE.

IT IS, IT IS, IT'S EMBARRASSING.

AND ALSO THE ELECTRICAL PART OF IT THERE, ISN'T THERE A RULE THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST 20 FEET FOR THE ELECTRICAL PEOPLE, THE SEWER SYSTEM ON ALL THE OTHER SYSTEMS ON THERE.

10 FEET NOT GONNA BE ENOUGH.

THE TELEPHONE POLES ARE GONNA BE ON TOP, ARE GONNA BE LEANING ON THE OTHER PROPERTY THAT EASEMENT THIS GREEN EASEMENT THERE.

WE PAY TAXES ON THERE.

SO THE MAN SAYS NOBODY'S GONNA BE LOOKING AT YOU.

YES, NOBODY'S GONNA BE ON THERE.

WE MAINTAIN THAT AREA, WE CLEAN IT UP WHEN CITY COMES IN THERE, WE OPEN UP OUR GATES SO THEY CAN GO IN THERE AND DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.

THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON THERE.

I AM OPPOSED TO THIS.

ALSO, THE SHORT NOTICE THAT WAS GIVEN TO US BY THE DEVELOPERS THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING.

IT'S LIKE COMING BEHIND US.

WE WERE NOTIFIED LAST NIGHT AT ONE OR TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING THAT THIS WAS AN OPEN MEETING INSTEAD OF A VIRTUAL MEETING MEETING THAT CAUGHT A LOT OF US OFF, OFF GUARDS.

WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT WERE NOT IN TOWN THAT COULD NOT MAKE IT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I AM OPPOSED TO IT.

AND IF YOU'D LIKE FOUR HOUSES BEHIND YOUR PARKING.

THANK YOU, SIR.

IT'S BEEN TWO MINUTES.

PATSY RODRIGUEZ, CAN I, YES MA'AM.

TWO MORE MINUTES, SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

AND AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE.

I'M NORMALLY NOT A RUDE PERSON.

I'M, I'M A COUNTRY BOY THAT CALLS IT LIKE IT IS.

AND LIKE I SAYS, AND THESE PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT THEY'RE GONNA SAVE THE VEGETATION.

THAT'S A BUNCH OF B******T.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA KNOCK IT ALL DOWN, JUST LIKE A LOT OF THE OTHER SUBDIVISION THAT TAKES AWAY FROM US, OKAY? AND IT'S DRAINAGE.

YOU TAKE ALL OF THOSE, ALL THOSE TREES DOWN, YOU PUT ALL THOSE HOUSES ON THERE, IT'S CONCRETE CEMENT, VERY LITTLE YARDS, AND ALL THAT WATER'S GONNA BE RUNNING DOWN.

EVEN TODAY, THERE'S WATER WHEN IT RAINS, A LOT COMES INTO OUR YARDS, WASHES THE PROPERTY AWAY.

THAT'S NOT ONLY JUST ME, BUT A LOT OF US BECAUSE IT GOES DOWN, IT'S A LITTLE VALLEY LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY.

AND I'M SORRY THAT THE PEOPLE HAVE NOT BUILT ON IT, BUT THERE'S CERTAIN COATS THAT WE HAVE TO ALL ABIDE BY.

AND NOW MY THING IS, AGAIN, LET US TALK TO THE PEOPLE.

WE CAN WORK THINGS OUT, BUT WE'RE NOT, I'M NOT GONNA GIVE 10 MORE FEET FOR THEM TO MOVE CLOSER TO OUR PROPERTY AND INVADE OUR PRIVACY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND GOD BLESS COLLEEN WAGU PACK.

I SINCERELY APOLOGIZE IF I BUTCHERED YOUR LAST NAME.

COLEEN WAGU PACK 1603 TARTAN.

I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

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UM, ANYONE THAT'S EVER DABBLED IN REAL ESTATE WILL TELL YOU REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT IS A GAMBLE.

UM, THESE DEVELOPERS CHOSE TO GAMBLE WHEN THEY BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY THAT HAD A HISTORY OF BEING DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP.

THEY CHOSE TO GAMBLE WHEN THEY REQUESTED A REDUCED SETBACK.

THE SETBACK REQUIRED BY CODE FOR PUD IS 20 FOOT.

YES, IT CAN BE ADJUSTED, BUT 20 FOOT IS WHAT IS REQUIRED BY BY THE PUD.

THEY GAMBLED AGAIN WHEN THEY CHOSE NOT TO SPEAK TO THEIR NEIGHBORS, APPARENTLY ON EITHER SIDE.

YES, ONE SIDE HAS MORE DENSE DEVELOPMENT.

THE OTHER SPARSELY, THEY GAMBLED WHEN THEY CHOSE TO PUT ALL THAT DEVELOPMENT CLOSEST TO THE MORE SPARSELY DEVELOPED PROPERTY.

AND THEY GAMBLED WHEN THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR CONTINUANCE TODAY TO GIVE THEM TIME.

ONCE THEY FOUND OUT FOR SURE THAT THE NEIGHBORS WERE AGAINST IT, TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS TO SEE IF THEY COULD COME UP WITH SOLUTION.

AT SOME POINT, THIS PROPERTY WILL BE DEVELOPED, BUT IT CAN BE DEVELOPED IN A MANNER THAT IS SENSITIVE TO AND CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES.

AND ITS UNIQUE CHARACTERISTICS DEVELOP OF THIS PROPERTY WILL LIKELY NEED ADDITIONAL VARIANCES TO, TO BE DEVELOPED AS PLANNED.

IMPERVIOUS COVER PARKING MINIMUMS AND TREE COVERAGE.

AS, AS THE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED, THEY HAVE THESE HOMEOWNERS HAVE FOR ALL THESE YEARS, BEEN PAYING TAXES ON 50 FOOT OF PROPERTY THEY COULDN'T USE BECAUSE THOSE POWER LINES ARE GOING THROUGH THERE.

IT ALL RE ALSO RESTRICTS THE TYPE OF TREES THEY CAN PLANT.

AND THE COVERAGE, THE EXTRA 10 FOOT, IT'S NOT AN EXTRA 10 FOOT, IT'S WHAT IS ALLOWED.

MISS, IT'S BEEN TWO MINUTES.

THANK YOU.

I ASK YOU TO THANK YOU MA'AM.

VOTE NO OR GIVE A CONTINUANCE, PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

OUR FINAL CITIZEN TO BE HEARD.

CHAIN BLOCK, HIGHEND BLOCK 1 4 6 7 2 CADILLAC DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO.

SO, UM, I'M THE RABBI OF THE SYNAGOGUE DOWN THE ROAD AND, UM, FEEL A LITTLE OUTNUMBERED .

UM, I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT, ALTHOUGH I RECOGNIZE THAT, UM, THE HOMEOWNERS ARE BEING AFFECTED, UH, WAS NOT, UM, AWARE OF JUST HOW MUCH RANKER IS OUT THERE ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THAT A LOT OF THE RESISTANCE TO THIS PROJECT DOES NOT RELATE TO THE 10 FOOT SETBACK AS IT DOES RELATE TO THE WHOLE PROJECT, WHICH IS ALREADY BEING ZONED FOR AND, AND APPROVED.

UH, AS FAR AS THE 10 FOOT SETBACK, UM, I, I REALLY ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPER AND THE HOMEOWNERS TO MAYBE CONTINUE WORKING TOGETHER TO COME TO SOME KIND OF SOLUTION.

I KNOW THAT HOUSING IS A VERY, VERY SCARCE AND WE ARE EXPERIENCING A LOT OF HARDSHIP FOR MEMBERS TRYING TO MOVE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO OBVIOUSLY FROM THE SYNAGOGUE'S PERSPECTIVE, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS, UH, DEVELOPMENT SUCCEED AND MOVE FORWARD.

UM, BUT NOT ON THE EXPENSE OF, OF OTHERS.

AND I THINK THAT, UM, IF WE COULD FIND A WAY TO WORK THINGS OUT, I WOULD GREATLY ENCOURAGE THAT.

BUT I DO WANT TO, I DO WANT TO MAKE THIS POINT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WASN'T MADE BEFORE.

FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE 10 FOOT SETBACK DOES NOT AFFECT VERY MANY HOMES AS THIS DOES NOT BACK UP TO VERY MANY HOMES.

I KNOW THIS GENTLEMAN HERE DOESN'T, IT KIND OF CONTRADICTED THAT, BUT THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING.

UM, AND THERE'LL BE FENCING AND THERE'LL BE PROPER PRIVACY.

BUT AGAIN, I CAN'T SPEAK TO ALL THE DETAILS OF THE DEVELOPMENT AS I'M NOT AWARE OF THOSE.

BUT I, I DO WANNA SPEAK IN FAVOR OF, OF THIS, OF THIS REQUEST.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I'LL ALLOW A FEW MINUTES FOR THE APPLICANT.

REBUTTAL.

WE ALSO HAVE VOICEMAILS TO PLAY.

PROBABLY WANNA DO THOSE FIRST.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, DANIEL.

OKAY, WE HAVE ABOUT 20 VOICEMAILS, UH, TO BE HEARD, AND THEN WE WILL HAND IT BACK OVER TO THE APPLICANT.

HELLO, MY NAME IS TERRY DENTON AND I LIVE IN 1902 LONGFIELD AND

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SAN ANTONIO IN CHURCHILL FOREST.

AND I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO CASE NUMBER 21 DASH SEVEN DASH 0 0 0 2.

AND I'D LIKE TO REGISTER MY, UH, I GUESS MY, UH, DISLIKE TO THE, UH, EXISTING, UH, UH, PLAN CHANGES TO THOSE, UH, UH, NEW HOME BUILDERS BEHIND US, BEHIND MY SUBDIVISION.

THE 10 FOOT VARIANCE IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE WITH ME.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT MAYBE IF THEY PUT, UH, PAINTED THE HOUSES A LITTLE DIFFERENT COLOR THAN JUST WHITE, THAT MAYBE THEY WOULD AT LEAST BLEND IN.

BUT, UH, PERHAPS A BUILDER COULD ALSO BUILD A ROCK WALL BETWEEN THE PROPERTIES AND PLANT TREES.

THAT'S JUST MY, MY RECOMMENDATION.

I KNOW I'M ON LONGFIELD, BUT STILL I LIVE IN THE SUBDIVISION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MY TELEPHONE NUMBER AGAIN AT TWO ONE OH SEVEN SEVEN ONE TRIPLE OH FIVE.

THANK YOU.

LAST THREE DIGITS OF THE CASE NUMBER IS 0 0 2.

UH, CALLING ABOUT THE, UH, CHURCHILL FOREST, UH, OBJECTION TO THE, UH, SETBACKS ON THIS NEW, UH, DEVELOPMENT.

I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY, UH, INPUT FROM C P S ON THEIR, UH, SETBACK REQUIREMENTS OR THEIR CLEARANCE REQUIREMENTS.

IF YOU'LL GIVE ME A CALL, I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT.

IT'S RICHARD FRANCIS, TWO TEN EIGHT TWO SEVEN FOUR EIGHT ZERO TWO.

GOOD MORNING.

I'M CALLING ABOUT CASE NUMBER TWO ONE DASH 1 1 7 0 0 0 0 2.

MY NAME IS EVELYN WALFORD.

THE ADDRESS IS 1931 LONGFIELD SAN ANTONIO, 7 8 2 4 8.

I'M A RESIDENT OF CHURCHILL FOREST.

THE REASON I'M CALLING IS TO REQUEST A NO VOTE ON THE VARIANCE CHANGE CASE.

MY TELEPHONE NUMBER IS TWO TEN EIGHT TWO SEVEN SIX THREE SIX SEVEN.

THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS ARMANDO RODRIGUEZ.

MY ADDRESS IS 1711 TOWN RISE.

CHRIS, YOU CAN TAKE THAT ONE.

I'LL HAVE TO DUPLICATE.

HELLO, THIS IS TERRY CRUMPTON.

I'M A, A RESIDENT OF CHURCHILL FOREST, UH, 7 8 2 4 8 NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, THERE'S A, UH, UH, REQUEST, UH, FOR ZONING I KNOW PENDING, UH, FOR A NE FOR A, A PIECE OF LAND NORTH OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE MY ADDRESS AND VOTE NO TO THE PLANNING.

MY ADDRESS IS 13 4 0 6 CORAL CORRUM PEAK 1 3 4 0 6 CORRUM PEAK.

AGAIN, MY NAME IS TERRY, T E R R Y, CRUMPTON, C R U M P T O N.

AND I VOTE NO TO THIS.

IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, CALL ME BACK AT (210) 870-4095.

THANK YOU.

THIS IS DANA .

I LIVE IN CHURCHILL FOREST.

I OWN TWO HOMES HERE.

I VOTE NO, NO, NO, THIS IS UNFAIR.

AND I, IF YOU NEED ME TO SPEAK, CALL ME BACK AT (210) 493-0033.

I DO NOT HAVE THE NUMBER, DIDN'T GIVE ME THE NUMBER OF THE, UH, AGENDA, BUT I CAN SPEAK IF YOU'D LIKE.

I'VE, UH, HAD 50 TRANSACTIONS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'M A RETIRED REALTOR AND I'VE BEEN IN HERE FOR OVER 35 YEARS.

THANK YOU.

OH, WAIT A MINUTE.

UH, THE, SHE CALLED ME BACK BEFORE I, IF I LEFT OUT ANYTHING FOR THIS MESSAGE.

I'LL BE GLAD TO SPEAK IF YOU NEED ME TO.

THANK YOU.

2 1 0 4 9 3 0 0 3 3.

THE MEETING IS TOMORROW, AND I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER INFORMATION.

YES, ALEX SANCHEZ, 1 32 19 STAIR ROCK HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, 7 8 2 4 8.

I'M CALLING TO VOICE MY VOTE, WHICH IS NO TO THE PROJECT THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CHURCHILL FOREST, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD.

AGAIN, ALEX SANCHEZ, 1 32 19 STAIR ROCK

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7 8 2 4 8.

I'M A RESIDENT OF CHURCHILL FOREST.

I'M CALLING TO VOTE NO ON THE PROJECT THAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS UP THE HILL, UH, ON BLANC O BLANCO ROAD.

MY NUMBER'S 2 1 0 2 8 9 2 9 2 7 2 1 0 2 8 9 2 9 2 7.

THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING.

THIS IS DON SMICK.

CAN I, I AM CALLING IN REFERENCE TO CASE NUMBER 21 1 1 7 0 0 0 0 2.

AND, UH, MY WIFE AND I ARE OPPOSING THE, UH, 10 FOOT, UH, BUILDING SETBACK AND REQUESTING THAT IT, UH, BE MAINTAINED AT 20 FOOT BECAUSE WE WOULD, UH, LOSE MUCH OF OUR PRIVACY WITH THE, UH, CHANGE TO 10 FEET.

SO TO, UH, MAINTAIN OUR CURRENT PRIVACY, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE 20 FOOT SETBACK BE MAINTAINED AND ALSO THE, UH, COLOR OF YOUR BUILDINGS.

I THINK THEY SHOULD BE A DIFFERENT COLOR AS OF WHITE OR DIFFERENT COLOR THAN WHITE.

WE THINK IT SHOULD BE POSSIBLY A, A TAN COLOR, UH, TO MATCH OUR, UH, UH, BUILDINGS IN, UH, CHURCHILL FOREST.

AND, UH, ANYWAY, WE HOPE, UH, UH, WE CAN, UH, UH, CONTINUE THE SAME SETBACK THAT WE HAVE NOW.

THANK YOU.

HELLO, MY NAME IS SARAH CCHO.

I LIVE AT 1 3 2 3 0 STA ROCK.

AND I'M CALLING, UM, TWO TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE, UH, VOTE FOR THE 10 FOOT SETBACK AREAS, ASKING ON BEHALF OF OUR, UM, COMMISSION AND OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UM, THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR A POSTPONEMENT ON THE MEETING, UM, SO THAT WE CAN, UH, GATHER AND COLLECT A PLAN TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO.

THIS IS A, THIS IS A VERY, UH, IMPORTANT SITUATION IN OUR COMMUNITY.

UM, AND WE CERTAINLY NEED TO, UM, INVESTIGATE HOW WE CAN PREVENT, UM, FLOODING AND OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT BECOME PROBLEMATIC IN OUR COMMUNITY SHOULD THE VARIANCE, UM, BE SET AT 10 FEET RATHER THAN THE 20 FOOT VARI.

UM, SO AGAIN, MY NAME IS SARAH .

I LIVE ON 1 3 2 3 0 STER ROCK, AND I AM VOTING NO, UM, ON THE 10 FOOT SETBACK VARIANCE, ASKING FOR A POSTPONEMENT ON THE MEETING.

THANK YOU.

YES.

MY NAME IS MELISSA BURNELL.

I LIVE AT 1901 GREAT RIDGE.

UM, OUR AGENDA ITEM IS NUMBER 16, AND I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW I VOTE NO FOR THE VARIANCE AND I WOULD LIKE THE MEETING COMMITTEE MEETING POSTPONED.

I ALSO DON'T APPRECIATE, UH, THE NOTICE THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED WE COULD SHOW UP BECAUSE AT THE MEETING THAT JOSHUA HAD WITH US, HE SAID IT WAS A ZOOM.

SO THE NIGHT BEFORE, HE TELLS US IT'S A, UM, LIVE.

WE CAN GO DOWN, WE CAN GO DOWN THERE.

UH, THAT DOESN'T GIVE US TIME AT WORK TO GET.

MY NAME IS KIM PRUITT.

I LIVE AT 1 3 4 2 3 STA ROCK.

THIS IS REGARDING CASE NUMBER 21 1 1 7 0 0 0 2.

GREETINGS.

I'M THE CALLER REGARDING MY PROPERTY, WHICH REARS THE OLD BLANCO PROPERTY.

MY CONCERNS ARE BASED WITHIN THE CURRENTLY ESTABLISHED CITY ZONING CODE IN WHICH I HAVE RELIED UPON FOR THE PAST NINE YEARS FOR PURCHASING OUR HOME.

I NOTED THE APARTMENTS AT THE REAR, AND THEN UPON FURTHER RESEARCH DISCOVERED THE PRIVATELY OWNED LOT SANDWICH BETWEEN US.

DEEPER RESEARCH YIELDED CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S EXISTING ZONING OF ARMED FOUR, AND THE ACCOMPANYING ANY RESTRICTIONS WITH THE 20 FOOT WIDTH OF THE SETBACK, WE DEEMED ANY IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE LOCATED AT DISTANCE TO HAVE MINIMAL IMPACT, EVEN WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF MORE MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTIES.

NOW, BEFORE YOU, AS IS REQUEST TO GRANT A VARIANCE TO LONG ESTABLISH AND RELIED UPON CITY'S ZONING RESTRICTIONS, THIS REQUEST HAS YIELDED MINIMAL TIME FOR ADEQUATE RESPONSE TO MY AND MY NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS.

BUT THAT IS NOT THE QUESTION BEFORE YOU AND MY REQUEST IS TO NOT GRANT THE VARIANCE.

PLEASE NOTE, THIS DECISION IS NOT TO THWART THE PROPERTY RIGHT TO THE LANDOWNER TO DEVELOP, BUT MADE TO BE RESPECTFUL OF LONG ESTABLISHED HOMEOWNERS THAT HAVE LIVED WITH CURRENT ZONING BASED UPON THE CORRESPONDING RESTRICTIONS TO US, THIS FEELS LIKE A REVERSAL OF ZONING FURTHER REMOVED FROM THE ORIGINAL R SIX ZONING,

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WHILE WAS NOT HERE FOR THOSE DISCUSSIONS, IT SEEMS PRUDENT TO BELIEVE THAT THE ZONING CHANGED 35 YEARS AGO FROM R SIX TO R FOUR WAS DONE WITH CONSIDERATION OF THE ACCOMPANYING ZONING CHARACTERISTICS AND REGULATIONS.

IT WOULD SEEM THESE CODES ARE WRITTEN TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE DISTANCE SEPARATION AND TO ALLOW FOR ADEQUATE DRAINAGE, PARKING AND CONSIDERATION FOR ALL IMPACTED LAND AND HOMEOWNERS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

AND AGAIN, PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW FOR THIS CHANGE TO THE ZONING RESTRICTIONS.

PLEASE, WE DO NOT PRESUME TO TAKE AWAY THE LANDOWNER'S PROPERTY RIGHTS.

WE JUST REQUEST RESPECT FOR OURS AS LONG-TERM RESIDENTS.

THESE ARE OUR HOMES AND OUR BUT, AND THIS IS BUT A BUSINESS TRANSACTION FOR THE DEVELOPERS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

YES, THIS IS BILLY FRANCIS, A RESIDENT OF CHURCHILL FOREST SUBDIVISION FOR 40 YEARS.

MY ADDRESS IS 1703 ALLEN DRIVE STREET.

MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 492-2446.

I'M CALLING TO REQUEST POSTPONEMENT OF ITEM 16 ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA FOR TODAY, AUGUST 11TH, 2021.

THIS POSTPONEMENT WOULD ALLOW TIME FOR THE DEVELOPER AND RESIDENTS TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT THAT WOULD RESULT IN MINIMAL IMPACT TO THE NEARBY COMMUNITY.

SECONDLY, I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE 10 FOOT SETBACK VARIANCE REQUESTED BY THE DEVELOPERS.

THE 10 FOOT SETBACK WILL PUT THE BACK OF THE HOUSES APPROXIMATELY SIX FEET FROM THE 35,000 VOL C P S POWER LINE.

THANK YOU.

THIS IS MRS. DER AND I LIVE IN CHURCHILL FOREST.

I JUST GOT NOTIFIED TODAY ON OUR SIGN ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF NEW HOMES OR CONDOS BEING BUILT AT THE TOP OF THE HILL BY OUR DEVELOPMENT.

AND, UH, I AM TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY AGAINST IT.

UH, THIS WOULD BE OFF OF OLD BLANCO ROAD.

CHURCHILL FOREST SUBDIVISION IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO IT, AND WE WOULD GET ALL THE DIRT, THE DUST, THE NOISE, AND ALL THE EXCESS TRAFFIC.

AND BLANCO DOESN'T NEED ANY MORE TRAFFIC.

I DON'T KNOW THE LAST THREE NUMBERS OF THE VARIANCE COLD, BUT THIS IS, UH, BO CANOR CHURCHILL FOREST IS DONE TOTALLY AGAINST, UM, THE VARIANCE CHANGE IN ORDER TO BUILD NEW BUILDINGS, UM, OFF OF OLD BLANCO ROAD.

THANK YOU AND HAVE A BLESSED DAY.

BYE-BYE.

YES.

UM, YES.

MY NAME IS VALERIE EDWARDS.

I LIVE AT, UH, 1 7 0 7 HOUNDS RISE STREET IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS.

AND I'M REFERRING TO CASE NUMBER 21 1 1 7 0 0 0 0 2.

AND I VOTE NO ON THE, ON THE AGENDA.

SO THANK YOU ON YOUR COUNCIL MEETING.

THANK YOU.

HI, THIS IS MARIAH SMITH.

I LIVE AT AND OWN THE PROPERTY, AND CHRIS IS ANOTHER DUPLICATE 1 3, 4 2.

MY NAME IS JULIA HUMMEL.

MY ADDRESS IS 1 3 3 1 8 KTE STREET IN CHURCHILL FOREST, SAN ANTONIO, SEVEN EIGHT TWO FOUR EIGHT.

PHONE (210) 492-6884.

I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO CASE NUMBER 2 1 1 7 2.

DEAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT YOU DENY THE REQUESTED PLAN AMENDMENT ASKING FOR A WAIVER OF THE 20 FOOT SETBACK REQUIREMENT.

CHANGING THE SETBACK TO 10 FEET, EVEN A SETBACK OF 20 FEET, WOULD PUT A STRUCTURE VERY CLOSE TO A NEIGHBORING PROPERTY.

FOR REFERENCE, MOST HOMES HAVE EIGHT FOOT CEILINGS.

A 10 FOOT SETBACK IS HARDLY ENOUGH SPACE TO CUSS A CAT.

EVEN WITH A 10 FOOT SETBACK, THE PROPERTY IS TOO NARROW FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

PLEASE DENY THIS WAIVER REQUEST.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IN THIS MATTER.

THANK YOU.

BYE-BYE.

GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS NORM DECOS.

I LIVE HERE AT 1927 GREAT RIDGE STREET, CHURCHILL FOREST.

I'M REFERENCING CASE NUMBER 21 DASH 1 1 7 0 2.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR BUILDERS PLAN TO MAKE THE NEW HOME STRUCTURES WHITE.

I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY WOULD CREATE SOMETHING SO INCONSISTENT WITH

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THE EXISTING ENVIRONMENT.

HAVING A TWO AND A HALF STORAGE STAR WHITE STRUCTURE BEHIND OUR PROPERTY WOULD UNDOUBTEDLY BE AN EYESORE TO PROPERTY OWNERS IN CHURCHILL FOREST.

A SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO HAVE THE DEVELOPER PAINT THE HOUSES TAN TO BLEND IN WITH THE EXISTING ENVIRONMENT.

THE 10 FOOT VARIANCE IS UNACCEPTABLE.

WE NEED TO RETAIN AS MUCH PRIVACY AS POSSIBLE AS TREES WILL BE TAKEN DOWN TO ACCOMMODATE THE BUILDING PROCESS.

SEASONAL CHANGES WILL MAKE THESE BUILDINGS EXTREMELY VISIBLE FROM OUR HOMES.

AND CHURCHILL FOREST, SAN ANTONIO DOES HAVE A TREE ORDINANCE, WHICH WE HOPE WILL BE CONSIDERED.

PERHAPS THE BUILDER COULD BUILD A ROCK WALL BETWEEN THE PROPERTIES AND OR PLANT TREES.

ANOTHER CONSIDERATION WOULD BE FOR THE DEVELOPER TO CLIP THE STREET TO ENSURE WE HAVE MORE DISTANCE BETWEEN OUR PROPERTIES AND OUR BACKYARD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

MY NAME IS DIANE HALL.

1 3 4 4 2 CORUM PEAK, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 4 8.

I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO CASE NUMBER 21 1 7 0 2.

AND I WANT TO VOTE NO TO CHANGE THE SETBACK FROM 20 FEET TO 10 FEET.

CASE NUMBER 21 DASH 1 1 7 0 0 0 2.

I VOTE NO TO CHANGE THE SETBACK FROM 20 FEET TO 10.

DIANE HALL, 1, 3 4 4 2 CORRUM PEAK, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO FOUR EIGHT.

PHONE NUMBER (210) 241-7588.

THANK YOU.

THIS IS BETTY HANSSEN.

I LIVE IN CHURCHILL FOREST OFF OLD BLANCO ROAD.

I'M CALLING REGARDING CASE NUMBER 21 DASH 1 7 0 0 0 2.

I'VE ALWAYS VOTED NO FOR THE PROPOSAL FROM THE BUILDER FOR A VARIANCE IN THE SETBACK.

ANOTHER PROBLEM THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT IS THE DRAINAGE AND EROSION PROBLEMS CREATED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT.

UH, IT ALSO AS WELL AS THE ACCESSIBILITY OF EMERGENCY, UH, VEHICLES, UH, TO THIS PROPERTY ALSO DID THE REFUSE AND OTHER UTILITY, UH, COMPANIES.

THANK YOU.

UH, WE ARE THOMAS B AND CATHERINE M. ROBERTS OF 1 8 0 7 TURN MILL STREET CITY.

AND THAT IS CHURCHILL FOREST SUBDIVISION.

WE ARE CALLING REGARDING CASE NUMBER 0 0 2.

WE SAY NO TO THE DEVELOPER'S REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE IN SETBACK.

OKAY.

IF I CAN HAVE THE APPLICANT BACK UP HERE FOR REBUTTAL FIRST, IT IT, IT'S HARD TO FOLLOW ALL THOSE, ALL THOSE COMMENTS FOR SURE.

UM, I JUST WANNA SAY FIRST THANK YOU GUYS.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR, FOR LETTING US, YOU KNOW, FOR SHARING YOUR CONCERNS, LETTING US KNOW, UM, UH, OF THE CONCERNS.

SO WE, WE DID MEET WITH SEVERAL NEIGHBORS AND WE DID MEET WITH THE H O A PRESIDENT REGARDING THE, THESE CONCERNS.

PRIOR TO THIS MEETING.

UM, WE ASKED, UH, THERE WAS AN H O A MEETING, UH, WHERE, UM, A LARGE NUMBER OF MEMBERS WERE ATTENDING AND WE ASKED TO, UH, TO ATTEND THAT MEETING AS WELL TO HELP, UH, KIND OF, UH, FACILITATE, UH, A CONVERSATION OR AT LEAST BE THERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

AND, AND WE WERE DENIED THAT OPPORTUNITY.

SO WE, WE DEFINITELY HAVE REACHED OUT AND TRIED TO, UH, COMMUNICATE AND, UM, AND SHARE AND, AND, UH, COLLABORATE WITH, WITH THE NEIGHBORS.

HOWEVER, UH, WE WERE, WE WERE NOT AFFORDED TO DO, UH, THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.

UM, RE REGARDING, UH, ALL OF THE CONCERNS, UM, WE, WE ARE MEETING ALL OF THOSE CONCERNS.

SO WHEN IT COMES TO DRAINAGE, WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY, WHEN IT COMES TO PARKING, ALL OF THOSE HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND OKAYED BY THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH INITIAL AND FINAL APPROVAL OF THIS PUTT PLAN.

THE ONLY TOPIC BEFORE, UH, THE COMMISSION TODAY IS WHETHER OR NOT TO APPROVE THE REQUESTED REDUCTION IN THE PERIMETER SETBACK.

AGAIN, R M FOUR DESIGNATION, WHICH IT WAS CONVERTED FROM THE PUD.

UM, THE, THE P ONE R SIX, UM, IN 2001 ALLOWS FOR A 10 FOOT FRONT AND REAR SETBACK.

ALL WE'RE DOING IS TRYING TO REQUEST AND, AND, AND GAIN APPROVAL TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY IN THAT, IN THAT MANNER.

AND WE COULD DEVELOP IT, UM, WITH RMM FOUR TODAY WITHOUT UTILIZING THE PUD.

UM, BUT IT WOULD, IT WOULD WITH A 10 FOOT SETBACK AND THERE WOULD BE NO

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DISCUSSION.

HOWEVER, THAT'S GONNA PRODUCE A MUCH, UH, POOR QUALITY PRODUCT, UH, THAT IS NOT GONNA BE CONDUCIVE TO THE SURROUNDING USES.

UM, AND, AND THE, AND THE DESIGNATIONS OF HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH.

WE'RE IN THAT MIDDLE AND WE'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

WE'RE TRYING TO MEET ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

AND AGAIN, WE'VE TRIED TO MEET AND DISCUSS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, HOWEVER, WE'VE NOT BEEN ABLE OR AFFORDED THAT OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THE, THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.

UM, UH, THERE'S CONCERNS ABOUT PARKING.

IT IS A TWO-WAY STREET.

UH, THERE'S CONCERNS ABOUT INGRESS, EGRESS FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES.

AGAIN, THE CITY HAS APPROVED OUR PLAN.

THERE'S FIRE HYDRANTS AND, UH, EVERYTHING HAS BEEN ADDRESSED AND THE CITY, AGAIN, HAS APPROVED EVERY SINGLE FACET OF OUR PLAN, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THIS 10 FOOT PERIMETER SETBACK REDUCTION, BECAUSE THAT, THAT'S UP TO YOU ALL.

UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE ELECTRICAL EASEMENTS, I KNOW THAT WAS A CONCERN THAT WAS BROUGHT UP.

THIS, UH, THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN PLATTED PREVIOUSLY.

IT'S GONE THROUGH AN INITIAL PLAT PROCESS OF UNDER A DIFFERENT OWNER.

HOWEVER, THE, THE ENGINEERING FIRM IS THE SAME ENGINEERING FIRM THAT IS WORKING ON THIS PROJECT.

THEY TALKED WITH C P S AND THEY'RE, UM, THEY, THEY REQUESTED C P S REQUESTED A 10 FOOT SETBACK ON OUR PROPERTY.

GIVEN THE FACT THAT THERE ARE, THERE'S A MINIMUM, UH, IT VARIES, BUT THERE'S A MINIMUM, UH, DISTANCE OF 4.7 FEET TO ANYWHERE TO SEVEN FEET BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY LINE AND THE POWER LINES.

SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE'RE REQUESTING 10 FEET AS OPPOSED TO 14 FEET OR WHATEVER THE REQUIREMENT MAY BE, WHICH IT IS 14 FEET.

SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER? UH, I'LL START IN ORDER.

UH, MR. BUSANTE, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, NO MADAM CHAIR, BUT AS I MENTIONED, I DO HAVE TO GO PICK UP MY DAUGHTER.

OKAY.

SO I'M GONNA EXCUSE MYSELF.

THANK YOU.

IS 2 57 AND MR. BUSTA IS LEAVING THE MEETING.

COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES.

UH, SO ON THE PLAN, IT'S SHOWING FOUR SETS OF ZERO LOT LINES.

UH, AND, AND SO THEY'RE GONNA LOOK LIKE DUPLEXES, WHICH IS FINE.

BUT I GUESS WHAT I'M WONDERING IS, IS UH, THERE'S NO INTERCEPTOR DRAINAGE EASEMENT IN THE REAR.

I KNOW THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED THE 12 FOOT PRIVATE, BUT THAT'S OFFSET 10 FEET FROM THE BACK.

UHHUH .

AND USUALLY WHEN YOU HAVE WATER RUNNING, CROSSING MORE THAN ONE LOT, THEY, THE CITY WOULD REQUIRE AN INTERCEPT FOR EASEMENT IN THE BACK.

SO THAT'S ONE CONCERN I'D LIKE, UH, YOU TO ANSWER.

ANOTHER ONE IS, IS THAT IF THIS GETS, UH, DENIED TODAY OR SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN, DID Y'ALL LOOK AT DOING AN ENCLAVE DEVELOPMENT? I MEAN, YOU ONLY GOT 28 LOTS.

I MEAN, WITH AN RM FOUR YOU'RE AT, YOU'RE AT THE 11 DENSITY AND YOU WOULD GET THE SMALLEST STREETS, YOU WOULD ONLY HAVE THE 10 FOOT SETBACK.

I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE, WHY YOU WERE, WHY YOU'RE PURSUING A PUT INSTEAD OF JUST DOING IT AS AN ENCLAVE.

OKAY, GREAT.

GREAT QUESTIONS.

UM, AS FAR AS THE, THE EASEMENT IN THE REAR, I'M NOT SURE, UM, TO BE VERY HONEST, HOWEVER, THIS IS JUST AN INITIAL PUD PLAN.

AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE PLATTING PROCESS, THAT'S WHEN I BELIEVE FURTHER SCRUTINY IS APPLIED TO THE EASEMENTS THEMSELVES.

UM, AND WHICH WILL COMPLY WITH ANY EASEMENT THAT'S REQUESTED BY THE CITY.

UM, AND TO ANSWER YOUR SECOND QUESTION, IT I BELIEVE IT, IT IS BECAUSE, UH, THIS IS JUST THE MOST FEASIBLE CONCEPT THAT, THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY BEING ABLE TO UTILIZE THE CURRENT ZONING AND, AND ALL THE LAND ENTITLEMENTS THAT WE PRESENTLY HAVE.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES, I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS, SOME FOR STAFF.

UM, AND WE'VE HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS, BUT SPECIFICALLY REGARDING, UH, PODS, WHERE DOES DRAINAGE GET HANDLED? IS THAT DURING THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS OF THE POD OR IS THAT HANDLED LATER? THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED AT THE PLATTING PHASE.

CAN CAN I ANSWER THAT? SORRY.

WE HAVE SUBMITTED AND WE HAVE HAD AN APPROVED STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN.

UM, IT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE CITY.

IT WAS SUBMITTED ALONG WITH THE P.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UH, WE HEARD QUESTIONS AND AND CONCERNS ABOUT TREES.

WHERE DOES THIS FALL REGARDING THE TREE ORDINANCE? I GUESS ANY DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ANY TREE ORDINANCES, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, IT WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ALL THE TREE, CURRENT TREE ORDINANCES.

AND THEN THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT PARKING.

WHERE DOES, WHEN DOES THAT GET ADDRESSED? IS THAT DURING THIS EARLIER PROCESS OR IS THAT, UH, LATER PROCESS THAT HE WAS, UH, DISCUSSING? YEAH, PARKING ISN'T REALLY CONSIDERED IN THE POD PLAN ITSELF.

IT'S WHEN THEY GO THROUGH THE BUILDING AND, AND GETTING REVIEWED BY TRAFFIC.

UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE MEETING.

NOTICE DID WE MEET ALL OF OUR REQUIREMENTS AND WHEN WERE THEY NOTIFIED THAT THIS WAS GONNA BE AN OPEN MEETING? I KNOW THAT WAS, THERE WAS A LOT OF EVEN CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THAT WAS GONNA BE HANDLED.

LEMME KNOW.

YEAH.

SO, UH,

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I, I HEARD THAT IN ONE OR TWO OF THE VOICEMAILS AS WELL.

WE DOUBLE CHECKED THE NOTICE.

IT ADVERTISED AN IN-PERSON MEETING HERE AT TWO O'CLOCK TODAY.

SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT OTHER, UH, COMMUNICATION, THERE MAY HAVE BEEN ABOUT A A A, WE, WE HAVE NEVER DONE A ZOOM MEETING FOR A, FOR A PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, ON THE PARKING ITEM.

I DID WANNA MENTION ONE OTHER THING.

THE CODE REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF ONE PARKING SPACE PER SINGLE FAMILY UNIT.

UH, I THINK WE SAW IN SOME OF THE EXHIBITS, UH, YOU KNOW, AN ATTACHED GARAGE, SO THAT WOULD BE COMPLIANT WITH THE CODE.

UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE UTILITIES WITH C P SS ENERGY.

WHERE, WHERE DOES THAT, IS THAT ALSO HANDLED DURING THE, DURING THIS PHASE OR DOES THAT COME DURING THE LATER PROCESS? THAT'S GONNA BE DURING THE PLATTING PHASE.

YOU KNOW, WE GOT A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT THE COLOR OF THE BUILDINGS.

IS THERE ANY CONSERVATION DISTRICTS OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE OR IS NO, NO, THIS ISN'T IN A CONSERVATION DISTRICT OR HISTORIC OR N C D, SO THERE WOULDN'T BE A REQUIREMENT ON WHAT COLOR THEY PAINTED THE HOUSES.

OKAY.

UM, AFTER THIS GOES THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION, IF IT DOES GET APPROVED, ARE THERE ANY FURTHER STEPS? IS THERE, I GUESS WOULD THE NEXT STEP BE TO GO TO COUNSEL DURING THE PLOTING PHASE? I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

YOU MENTIONED, UH, THAT IF YOU DON'T GO WITH A PUD, YOU COULD DEVELOP IT AS AN RMM FOUR, BUT YOU GET A POOR QUALITY PRODUCT.

CAN YOU ELABORATE WHAT YOU MEAN BY A POORLY POOR QUALITY PRODUCT IF YOU DON'T USE THE PUD PROCESS? NO, MY, MY APOLOGIES.

UH, FOR RE UH, MISLEADING, UH, STATEMENT WITH THAT.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE DEVELOPING THE, THE PROPERTY AS A PUT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S OWNED FOR PUD, SO IT IS A ZONE AS RMM FOUR PUD.

UM, IT, THE, THE OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE WOULD, WOULD LIMIT THE, THE ABILITY TO DEVELOP THE, THE, THE PRODUCT THAT, THAT OUR DEVELOPER WOULD LIKE TO DEVELOP IN THAT AREA.

THANK YOU.

THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE, UH, IS FOR STAFF.

WE HAD ONE COMMENT FROM THE, THE EMAILS AND IT SAID THAT THERE WAS, THEY BELIEVE THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT REGARDING SOME RELIGIOUS OBSERVATIONS AND CARRYING THINGS OPENLY.

IS, IS, ARE YOU AWARE OF ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE? THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT IN WHAT? I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU.

UH, THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT, UH, REGARDING SOME RELIGIOUS OBSERVATIONS AND CARRYING THINGS OPENLY.

THAT WAS IN SOMEBODY'S LIKE ONE OR TWO.

IT WAS A MULTI-POINT EMAIL.

AND ARE YOU AWARE OF ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE IN THIS PROPERTY? I'M NOT, I MEAN, THERE COULD BE SOME KIND OF DEEDED RESTRICTIONS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN, IN THE AGREEMENT, BUT THAT'S NOT HANDLED BY THE CITY.

THAT WOULD BE BETWEEN PRIVATE ENTITIES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER GARCIA, IF I MAY JUST CLARIFY ABOUT THE ZONING AND THE PUD.

SO THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED RMM FOUR PUD.

THAT RMM FOUR PIECE OF IT IS PART OF THE CONVERSION FROM 2001.

BUT IN ORDER TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY AS CURRENTLY ZONED, WE HAD TO COME FORTH TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION SINCE THIS PUD WAS ESTABLISHED PRIOR TO 2016 WITH A PUD PLAN FOR YOUR APPROVAL, UM, IN DEVELOPING THIS PROPERTY, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IN THE PUD PLAN IS PERFECTLY ALIGNED WITH THE CODE.

IT IS ALIGNED WITH THE ZONING.

DOING ANYTHING OTHER THAN THIS WOULD REQUIRE A FULL REZONING PROCESS.

WE ARE JUST APPLYING FOR THE POD PLAN ITSELF TO MATCH THE CURRENT ZONING THAT IS ON THE PROPERTY, IF THAT MAKES MORE SENSE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

IS IS THERE SOMEBODY WATCHING SOMETHING ON THEIR PHONE OR TRANSLATOR? OH, COMMISSIONER SIEGEL, MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PROPHET.

UH, THANK YOU.

UH, AGAIN, IT'S VERY GOOD TO BE IN PERSON, ALTHOUGH, UH, WEARING MASKS, BUT WE'RE GETTING BACK TO NORMAL.

UM, AND I THINK A LOT OF THE CONCERNS I THINK, UH, FELLOW COMMERS HAVE ADDRESSED, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, UM, PRO PROPERTY THAT'S PR THAT'S PRIVATE AND AT SOME POINT MAY GET SOLD AND DEVELOPED.

SO, UH, FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BEST USE FOR THAT LAND.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, A CONTINUANCE IS SOMETHING THAT'S COME UP, BUT I DON'T, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE, YOU GUYS HAVE TRIED TO MEET WITH THE H O A? UH, YES WE HAVE, BUT WE'RE OKAY.

UM, THE FIRST TIME WAS MONDAY.

ALRIGHT, WELL WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING AT SOME CONFLICTING INFORMATION.

SO CAN YOU BE A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC ON, SO WE, WE MET FOR THE FIRST TIME ON MONDAY WITH THE, WITH THE H O A PRESIDENT.

WE DID ASK, UM, IN THE WEEK PRIOR TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO MEET WITH THEM.

AND WE WERE TOLD NO, UM, THAT THEY, THAT THEY DID NOT WANT US TO ATTEND.

THE CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE DID ATTEND THAT MEETING.

UM, AND WE WERE, WAS INFORMED

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US THAT IT WAS WENDY MA'AM.

CITIZENS TO BE HEARD IS OVER.

IF YOU CAN, IF YOU CAN WAIT, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER WILL CALL ON YOU IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU, MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

SO WE WERE, UM, WE WERE, UH, INFORMED AND WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING ON FRIDAY.

AND THAT MEETING WAS CANCELED BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD THAT, UH, THE H O A WAS CONTACTING THEIR ATTORNEY.

AND, UM, AND WE ASKED IF WE COULD HAVE ANOTHER MEETING AND WE WERE ABLE TO FINALLY GET ONE THIS PAST MONDAY.

AND WHAT WAS THE RESULT OF THAT MEETING? THE RESULT, I, I WAS, UM, WE, WE WERE UNABLE TO, TO COME TO AN UNDERSTANDING OF, OF HOW TO, HOW TO PROCEED.

UM, MEANING THERE WAS A LOT OF ASKS, UM, THAT WERE UNRELATED TO THE 10 FOOT PERIMETER SETBACK, AND THEY WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE THE COSTS OF, UM, UH, THE, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT.

UM, NAMELY FLIPPING THE ROAD.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE TRIED TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS ABOUT DRAINAGE.

WE PROVIDED THEM WITH THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN.

UM, WE, WE DID EVERYTHING THAT WE POSSIBLY COULD TO, TO EASE THOSE CONCERNS AND TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY, I I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS COMMUNICATED, UM, TO, TO THE RESIDENTS OR NOT, BUT, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT CAME OF THAT MEETING.

SO FLIPPING THE ROAD WOULD MEAN MOVING THAT DRIVE TO THE, TO THE SOUTH ALONG THE C P SS EASEMENT? UH, YES, SIR.

AND I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT'S GONNA MITIGATE THE, THE NOISE OF TRAFFIC.

IT SEEMED LIKE IT WOULD PUSH THAT TOWARDS THE LOWER DENSITY NEIGHBORHOOD.

RIGHT.

AND THAT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING, UH, OF, OF IT AS WELL.

AND, AND OUR, UM, OUR HESITANCY TO DO IT, YOU KNOW, IS, IS TO ME, UH, THAT THAT SEEMS MORE INTRUSIVE THAN HAVING THE REAR OF A PROPERTY BACK UP TO A 75 FOOT, UH, PROTECTED EASEMENT, UH, THAT CANNOT BE DEVELOPED AND WILL BE MAINTAINED.

UM, SO LONG AS THAT POWER LINE IS THERE, WHICH RIGHT.

I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING ANYWHERE.

UM, I REALLY HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS.

I, I MEAN, I GUESS, I MEAN, AT THIS POINT WE COULD ENTERTAIN RESPONSE FROM ONE OF THE CITIZENS LIKE TO YEAH.

WHO WOULD, MA'AM WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND THE FIRST TIME THAT WE, IF YOU CAN APPROACH THE MIC, PLEASE, MA'AM.

SURE.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO I'M LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR, SORRY, THE FIRST TIME WE HEARD ABOUT THIS WAS, UH, WHAT, SUNDAY, AUGUST 1ST AND, AND HOLD ON, CANCEL.

AND THEN WE HAD AN EMERGENCY NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING TUESDAY THE THIRD, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT SHE ASKED YOU NOT TO ATTEND BECAUSE WE WANTED TO TALK TO OUR NEIGHBORS AND FIND OUT WHAT OUR QUESTIONS WERE.

BUT THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE HAD ACTUALLY HEARD ABOUT THIS.

AND, AND THAT WAS THE MEETING THAT, UM, COUNCILMAN HIS, HIS RIGHT HAND MAN CAME AND TOLD US THAT IT WOULD BE A ZOOM MEETING.

SO WE REALLY DIDN'T FIND OUT THAT IT WAS AN IN-PERSON MEETING UNTIL YESTERDAY.

AND SO, AND NO, SHE WAS NOT ABLE TO MEET WITH YOU GUYS UNTIL MONDAY.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

UH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IN GENERAL WE WOULD LIKE HARMONY BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, ALSO RESPECT THAT, THAT, UH, THAT HOUSING IS A NECESSITY.

UH, THAT'S WELL THOUGHT OUT.

I'M, I GUESS I'M GONNA KIND OF RESERVE MY COMMENTS TILL I HEAR FROM MY FURTHER COMMISSIONERS, BUT THANK YOU.

SURE.

UH, JUST A COUPLE POINTS OF CLARITY BEFORE I CONTINUE WITH QUESTIONS.

OUR PURVIEW TODAY IS THIS 10 FOOT SETBACK.

THAT IS WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS HERE FOR.

I KNOW THERE ARE, UM, SEVERAL OTHER ITEMS THAT CAME UP, BUT I JUST WANNA REMIND US AS THE BOARD AND, AND THOSE IN ATTENDANCE THAT THAT IS WHAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON TODAY.

UM, IN ADDITION, UH, IF STAFF CAN CONFIRM, I BELIEVE, UH, MEETINGS HAVE TO BE POSTED AT LEAST, UH, TWO WEEKS AND THEN THE ACTUAL AGENDA WITHIN 72 HOURS.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

AND NOTICES WERE MAILED TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.

AND, AND I WOULD SAY, AND, AND THEN ON, ON THAT NOTE, AND SO I DO KNOW, BECAUSE WE WERE HERE TWO WEEKS AGO WHEN WE HAD A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND IT WAS ALREADY POSTED.

UM, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND WITH COVID, THINGS ARE A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING.

UH, THINGS ARE CHANGING PRETTY OFTEN, AND SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION, BUT, UM, I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE STAFF DID HAVE IT POSTED, UH, TWO WEEKS AGO, AND THEN THEY ALSO HAD THE AGENDA, UM, AT LEAST 72 HOURS.

COMMISSIONER PECK.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UM, MOST OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED.

I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

UM, JUST KIND OF A POINT OF, I GUESS, CLARIFICATION HERE.

UM, SO THE 70, SO THERE'S A 75 FOOT C P S EASEMENT THAT IS FROM THE REAR PROPERTY LINE OF THE PROPOSED PUD TO THE EDGE OF THAT EASEMENT TO WHERE THE, THE HOUSES IN THE EXISTING SUBDIVISION CAN BEGIN, RIGHT? YES.

AND THEN THERE'S 10 FEET, YOU'RE PROPOSING A 10 FOOT SETBACK.

SO THAT'S A TOTAL OF 85 FEET BETWEEN BACK OF HOUSE TO BACK OF HOUSE.

UH,

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YES.

THE, THE CLOSEST IS ACTUALLY SOMEWHERE AROUND A HUNDRED FEET.

SO THE HOUSES ARE NOT BUILT, THERE'S NO HOUSE BUILT DIRECTLY ONTO THAT 75 FOOT EASEMENT.

OKAY.

SO WE'VE GOT ROUGHLY A HUNDRED FEET FROM BACK OF HOUSE TO BACK OF HOUSE.

YES, SIR.

SO I GUESS MY VIEWPOINT IS ON THIS, IS THAT IF THE HOUSES IN THE EXISTING SUBDIVISION WERE ALREADY BACKED RIGHT UP TO THE PROPERTY LINE, THIS 10 FEET PROBABLY WOULD BE UNREASONABLE.

BUT IN THIS CASE, WE'VE GOT A HUNDRED FEET BETWEEN HOUSES, WHICH NOBODY EVER GETS.

RIGHT.

UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S LIKE A LUXURY THAT MOST PEOPLE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE, UM, BUT JUST DON'T EVER HAVE.

IN FACT, MOST HOUSES IN THE EXISTING SUBDIVISION, THERE'S ONLY 40 FEET BETWEEN BACK OF HOUSE AND BACK OF HOUSE.

YES, SIR.

SO THIS IS ONLY A HANDFUL OF LOTS, LIKE 13 LOTS I THINK IS WHAT I COUNTED THAT THIS ACTUALLY EVEN AFFECTS.

YES, SIR.

SO, YOU KNOW, MY OPINION, I THINK THAT A 10 FOOT ASK IN THIS SITUATION IS A REASONABLE REQUEST AND I WILL BE IN SUPPORT.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER DKI.

OKAY.

UM, THE WIDTH OF THE ROAD THAT YOU HAVE IN THE PLAN IS 33 FEET.

YES, SIR.

WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO CONSIDER, 'CAUSE WE'RE TALKING HERE ABOUT THE FOUR FEET DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THE ACTUAL SETBACK IS.

RIGHT? THE ACTUAL SETBACK IS 14, AND YOU, UH, AND THE REQUEST IS TO MAKE IT TO 10, IT'S 20 FEET, IT'S 20 ON THE, ON THE REAR, ON THE REAR OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY.

IT'S, IT'S 20 FOOT, 20 FOOT FOR ANY POD.

YES.

AND THE REQUEST IS TO MAKE IT TO 10.

YES, SIR.

HAVE YOU CONSIDERED TO TAKE THAT SPACE, SOME OF THAT SPACE FROM THE ROAD? UH, IF, IF WE, IF WE DO THAT, IT, IT'S GONNA MINIMIZE THE ABILITY TO, TO PARK ON THE ROAD AND, AND, AND NAVIGATE IT, UH, WITH EASE.

UH, I'M SURE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT AND, AND SEE.

AGAIN, THIS IS NOT THE, THE FINAL PLA THIS IS, THIS IS THE PUT PLAN WHICH WE WILL BUILD THE PLAT OFF OF.

SO IF, IF, AGAIN, IF, IF ANYBODY COMES BACK AND SAYS, YOU NEED TO INCREASE THIS EASEMENT FOR DRAINAGE, FOR WATER, FOR GAS, ANYTHING.

I'M SORRY FOR ANYTHING, WE'LL DO THAT.

UM, IF SOMEONE SAYS WE NEED TO INCREASE THE ROAD, WE'LL DO THAT.

BUT AS IS, IN ORDER TO, TO MAXIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF SPACE AND PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, FOR EASE OF INGRESS EGRESS, UM, WE'D LIKE TO KEEP THE ROAD THE SAME WIDTH.

OKAY.

AND, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO SO.

OKAY.

NO FURTHER QUESTION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER GARCIA.

UH, THANK YOU.

UH, I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO THIS AND MOST OF MY CONCERNS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED BY MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT IS A PART OF THE CITY WHERE IT WILL BE A BUSINESS TO THE DEVELOPERS TO GO IN THERE.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT MADE INVESTMENT IN THEIR HOUSES IN THE PAST, THEY'RE WATCHING AND TO PROTECT THAT INVESTMENT.

MY CONCERN, OF COURSE, UH, HAS NOTHING TO DO HERE, BUT I ALWAYS WATCH THE FIRE TRUCKS TRY AND TURN AROUND WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS A FIRE IN SOME OF THESE, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS.

THE HOUSES ARE EXPENSIVE, BUT I WOULD CONSIDER, UH, A CONTINUANCE FOR THEM TO CONTINUE TALKING, BECAUSE ONCE YOU MAKE IMPROVEMENTS THERE, THEY'LL BE THERE FOREVER.

SO MY MOTION, IF I COULD MAKE IT, WOULD BE FOR A CONTINUANCE.

OKAY.

AT THIS TIME, I'LL ASK IF THERE'S ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS.

WOULD YOU BE, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO CONSIDER THE EMOTION, THE MOTION BY THE COMMISSIONER? UH, YES.

I MEAN, WE, WE, WE DEFINITELY CONSIDER IT FOR SURE.

TO, FOR CONTINUANCE REWORK, REWORK WITH THE RESIDENTS ABOUT REVISE THE PLAN THAT YOU OFFER.

UH, UM, UNFORTUNATELY, ANY, ANY SORT OF, UH, REVISION OF THIS PLAN, IT, IT, IT'S GONNA RENDER THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, UNFEASIBLE.

UM, SO WE, WE'VE SPENT OVER A YEAR AND A HALF ON, ON THIS PLAN, GETTING IT THROUGH THE CITY, GETTING THROUGH APPROVALS, INITIAL AND FINAL APPROVALS.

AGAIN, THE ONLY, THE ONLY, UM, THE ONLY DISCRETIONARY APPROVAL THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE, UH, RECEIVED IS THIS 10 FOOT PERIMETER SETBACK.

UM, STREETS HAVE BEEN APPROVED, FIRE HAS, HAS TAKEN A LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW, EMERGENCY SERVICES.

EVERYBODY HAS LOOKED AT THIS PLAN SEVERAL TIMES AND HAS APPROVED IT AS IS.

UM, SO WE'RE NOT, UH, I'M NOT SAYING NO, I, I'M JUST, I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW, WE ARE, WE ARE IN THE POSITION THAT, UM, WE, WE DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT ARE UNRELATED TO THIS, TO THE 10 FOOT SETBACK.

AND MAY I JUST SAY,

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WE OURSELVES, AS THE, UH, REPRESENTATIVES OF THE DEVELOPERS, WE SENT LETTERS, WE MAILED LETTERS TO RESIDENTS WITHIN 200 FEET, THE SAME INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE, THAT WOULD RECEIVE, UH, LETTERS FROM THE CITY PRIOR TO THE CITY SENDING OUT THEIR, THEIR, THEIR NOTICES.

SO WE, WE DID MAKE SEVERAL ATTEMPTS TO, TO COMMUNICATE WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH, WITH THE RESIDENTS.

OKAY.

UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, FURTHER QUESTIONS.

I DO WANNA JUST MAKE A COUPLE MORE COMMENTS.

AGAIN, UM, I, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CONFUSION AS WE ALL KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT THE NEW NORMAL AND, AND THEN MAYBE TAKE A FEW STEPS BACK WITH WHAT'S GOING ON WITH COVID.

UM, BUT I DO WANNA REITERATE THAT THE STAFF AND THE APPLICANT DID POST, UM, ACCORDINGLY, UM, AS THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO.

UM, I ALSO DO WANNA REMIND US AGAIN THAT WE ARE HERE FOR THAT 10 FOOT SETBACK, AND THAT'S WHAT OUR FOCUS IS.

UM, BUT SEEING THAT WE HAD 20 VOICEMAILS AND, AND ALMOST 10 PEOPLE, UM, SIGNED UP.

I, I DO SEE THE POINT FROM COMMISSIONER PROFIT AND COMMISSIONER, UH, ZUKI AND, AND GARCIA, UM, THAT THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, TO AT LEAST HAVE A FEW MORE CONVERSATIONS, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I THINK THE FIRST DATE THAT WAS GIVEN WAS THIS MONTH ON AUGUST 3RD OR, OR SO.

AND SO, UM, ABOUT A WEEK AGO OR, AND, AND WHATNOT.

UM, I'M NOT USUALLY IN FAVOR OF DELAYING PROJECTS, UM, BUT WHEN THE PUBLIC SPEAKS AND, AND I'M GLAD THAT, UM, THE NEIGHBORS DID DO SO, UM, THAT USUALLY IS CLEAR THAT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS, UM, EVEN IF THERE IS NO CHANGES TO BE MADE, FOR SURE.

UM, THAT BEING SAID, I ALSO ECHO THE, THE COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONER PECK OF THIS A HUNDRED FOOT SETBACK.

UH, I WOULD VERY MUCH ENJOY TO HAVE A HUNDRED FOOT SETBACK BETWEEN ME AND THE NEXT NEIGHBOR.

AND, UM, I DON'T SEE ANOTHER WAY FOR THIS TO MAKE SENSE.

UH, ONE FOR WHAT THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE USED FOR.

AND THEN TWO, IT ABSOLUTELY DOES MAKE SENSE TO ME TO HAVE, UM, THEM FACING THE MULTI-USE AND HAVE THAT A HUNDRED FOOT SET BACK OR SO BETWEEN ME AND, UM, THE, THE LESSER DENSITY HOMES.

UM, THAT'S, THANK YOU.

THAT'S THE, THAT'S ALL OF MY COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

UM, I BELIEVE WE HAD A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA TO, FOR A CONTINUANCE, AND I, I DIDN'T HEAR IT AS A FIRM MOTION.

MR. GARCIA.

COMMISSIONER GARCIA, WERE YOU? I MOVE .

AND IS THAT A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE? YES.

I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA FOR A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE.

I, I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

OKAY.

ROLL CALL PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA.

YES.

COMMISSIONER CHRISTOPHER GARCIA? YES.

COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES.

COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YES.

COMMISSIONER PROPHET? YES.

COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES.

VICE CHAIR PECK? NO.

MADAM CHAIR GONZALEZ? YES.

MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE TO AUGUST 25TH.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

THAT WAS ITEM NUMBER 16.

UH, YOU ARE FREE TO STAY FOR THE REST OF THE MEETING.

IF NOT, YOU'RE ALSO FREE TO GO ON ABOUT YOUR DAY.

[19. PLAN AMENDMENT CASE PA-2021-11600049 ( Council District 3): A request by Brown & Ortiz, PC., representative, for approval of a Resolution amending the Heritage South Sector Plan, a component of the Comprehensive Master Plan of the City, for a change in land use from “Agribusiness/RIMSE Tier” and "Rural Estate Tier" to “Suburban Tier” on 182.281 acres out of CB 4007, located at 13511 Old Corpus Christi Road. Staff recommends Approval. (Associated Zoning Case Z-2021-10700174) (Logan Sparrow, Policy Administrator, (210) 207-8691, Logan.Sparrow@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)]

NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER 19.

DO WE HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION? YES, MA'AM.

ITEM NUMBER 19 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RE RESOLUTION AMENDING THE HERITAGE SOUTH SECTOR PLAN FROM AGRIBUSINESS REMSEY TIER, ALSO KNOWN AS RESEARCH, INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING, SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT TIER, AND RURAL ESTATE TIER TO SUBURBAN TIER.

THIS IS LOCATED AT 1 3 5 1 1 OLD CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD.

THERE WERE 17 NOTICES MAILED, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

THE APPLICANT SEEKS A PLAN AMENDMENT TO SUBURBAN TIER FOR A NEW SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

THE PROPOSED SUBURBAN TIER IS COMPATIBLE WITH OTHER LAND USES IN THE AREA, NAMELY TO THE SOUTH AND THE WEST SUBURBANS HERE WOULD PERMIT RESIDENTIAL MULTI-FAMILY OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL USES.

THIS REQUEST IS ALSO SUITABLE TO THE GOALS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO ENSURE THAT LAND USES ARE COMPATIBLE WITH NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

REPRESENTATIVES FROM BROWN AND ORTIZ ARE AVAILABLE FOR PRESENTATION AND QUESTIONS, AND WE DO HAVE INDIVIDUALS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

OKAY.

WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION? I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION.

I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO PULL IT UP, BUT, UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR COMMISSIONERS CAROLINE MCDONALD WITH BROWN AND ORTIZ ONE 12 EAST PECAN, SUITE 13 60 60 HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT?

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YES, I GAVE IT TO LOGAN.

DO WE HAVE IT? I HAVE IT ON.

OKAY.

UH, OKAY, AGAIN, GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE, THE APPLICANT, UH, FOR THE PLAN AMENDMENT ON OLD CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD, PAGE TWO.

UM, YOU'LL SEE AN AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY.

WE ARE SOUTHEAST OF 180 1 AND HIGHWAY 37, SPECIFICALLY, UM, SOUTHTON ROAD IN 37.

WE WERE ANNEXED IN 2016 AS A PART OF A LARGE AREA ANNEXATION OF THE SOUTHEAST SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO.

NEXT SLIDE.

WE ARE WITHIN THE HERITAGE SOUTH SECTOR PLAN.

THERE IS A RED CIRCLE, UM, WHERE OUR PROPERTY IS.

WE ARE, AS STAFF INDICATED, WE ARE RURAL ESTATE AND AGRIBUSINESS EY TIER.

WE ARE REQUESTING SUBURBAN TIER TO ALLOW FOR A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION.

UM, WE ARE PRIMARILY SURROUNDED BY, UM, RURAL ESTATE TIER AND AGRIBUSINESS, BUT THERE IS SUBURBAN TIER, UM, TO OUR SOUTH AND TO OUR WEST.

NEXT SLIDE.

THERE IS AN ASSOCIATED ZONING CASE THAT ACCOMPANIES THIS PLAN AMENDMENT.

UM, IT IS THE PROPERTY IS FARM AND RANCH RIGHT NOW WHEN WE ARE REQUESTING, UM, R FOUR FOR, AGAIN, A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.

UM, THERE IS SOME INDUSTRIAL TO OUR EAST AND TO OUR SOUTH.

C C P SS OWNS THE TRACK TO OUR EAST, UM, AND TO OUR SOUTH, UH, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 400 ACRES.

WE DID REACH OUT TO THEM ABOUT ANY FUTURE PLANS.

THERE ARE NONE IN THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE.

NEXT SLIDE IS A DRAFT SITE PLAN.

AS I SAID BEFORE, THE PROPERTY IS ABOUT 182 ACRES.

SO WITH THE REQUESTED ZONING, IF THAT IS APPROVED, IT WOULD ALLOW ALMOST 2000 HOMES.

HOWEVER, YOU CAN SEE OUR PROPOSED PLAN.

UM, THERE ARE SOME TOPOGRAPHY AND DRAINAGE ISSUES AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE PROPERTY.

SO WE ARE PROPOSING ROUGHLY 600 HOMES, UM, A MIXTURE OF R FOUR AND R FIVE LOTS.

UH, THE R FOUR DIS, AND I KNOW THIS ISN'T ZONING, BUT THE R FOUR DISTRICT DOES ALLOW FOR GREATER THAN THAT.

SO WITH THAT, I DO, UH, RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT TODAY.

AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, CAROLINE.

THANK YOU, UH, CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.

FIRST UP, MARK SMLE SMLE.

THANK YOU.

TWO MINUTES.

PLEASE STATE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.

MARK SMLE OWNED THE PROPERTY AT 1 2 9 5 9 OLD CORPUS CHRISTIA ROAD.

UM, WE'RE IN, UH, WE ARE AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL BECAUSE THE AREA THAT THEY PROPOSED TO PUT HOUSES AS YOU PULL UP THE OTHER MAP YOU HAD UP, PLEASE.

WHICH ONE SIR? THE BLACK AND WHITE ONE WITH THE FLOODPLAIN SHOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR HOUSES.

THAT IS A FLOODPLAIN.

THAT IS BRO CREEK.

IT RUNS JUST, UH, UH, NORTH OF THAT IS MY PROPERTY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS.

AND IT FLOODS WHEN IT RAINS.

NOW, AND SINCE THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO HAS ANNEXED THIS AREA, NOTHING GETS CUT, NOTHING GETS CLEANED.

SO THE FLOODING HAS BECOME WORSE.

AND WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING THESE HOUSES, AS YOU SEE, IS A CREEK BASIN.

AND IT, AS THIS PREVIOUS PRESENTATION WAS THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT FLOODING.

MY PARENTS HAVE OWNED THIS PROPERTY SINCE 19, UH, 63.

THE FLOODING HAS GOTTEN WORSE, AS I SAID, SINCE SAN ANTONIO HAS NOT MAINTAINED ANYTHING THAT THEY'VE ANNEXED IN THAT AREA.

SO YOU'RE GONNA PUT ANOTHER 600 HOUSES IN A FLOOD ZONE, A FLOOD ZONE, IT'S FLOOD ZONE A I DON'T HAVE ANY FANCY SLIDES.

IT'S A, A FLOOD ZONE, WHICH WILL RENDER ALL THOSE PROPERTIES.

A A FLOOD ZONES.

THEY'LL HAVE TO GET A FLOOD INSURANCE TO KEEP THEIR HOUSES WHEN THEY FLOOD.

THEY WILL ALL HAVE TO JUST RIP 'EM DOWN AND START OVER AGAIN, AND IT'LL BE AT, AT THEIR OWN COST.

UH, I, UH, LIKE I SAID, IT'S WHENEVER THAT FLOODS.

WHEN YOU AS A KID, WHEN YOU STAND ON THE BRIDGE THAT THAT CREEK GOES UNDER, THERE'S ABOUT A TWO TO THREE ACRE WIDE FLOOD PLANE THAT GOES

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TO THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER, AND THAT'S WHERE THAT'S GONNA END UP.

AND THEY, NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO THERE, IT'S GONNA BACK UP ONTO WHAT MY PROPERTY IS, WHICH IS ALREADY A FLOOD ZONE A AND FLOOD IT COMPLETELY, WHENEVER WE HAVE JUST REGULAR RAINS, YOU KNOW, FOUR OR FIVE INCHES, WHEN YOU HAVE A 10 OR 12 INCH, IT'LL, IT'LL FLOOD ALL THEM HOUSES.

SO THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING THE COMMISSION TO LOOK AT.

THIS IS, YOU APPROVE THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO APPROVE.

10 YEARS FROM NOW, SOMEBODY'S GONNA BE FLOODED OUT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY FOR NOW.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

CLAUDE SMLE, SMLE SMLE, I VOTE NO.

AND I LIKE TO GIVE.

IF YOU CAN, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

APPROACH THE MIC.

CLAUDE SMLE, 1 2 9 5 9 OLD CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD KNOT HIGHWAY.

AND I VOTE NO.

AND I WAS GONNA GIVE MY TIME TO MY NEIGHBOR OR TO MY COLLEAGUE HERE.

OKAY.

WHAT HE'S GONNA, OKAY.

IF THAT'S THE END OF OUR, ONE OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORS.

NEXT ON MY LIST IS CELESTINA FLORES.

YEAH.

OKAY.

AND HOW MUCH EXTRA TIME ARE WE GIVING HER? FOUR MINUTES SHE GETS.

OKAY.

FOUR MINUTES.

OKAY.

MY NAME IS CELESTINA FLORES, UM, 13 0 4 7 OLD CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD.

AND SO, AS MY NEIGHBOR DID SAY, THERE IS A HIGH LEVEL OF FLOOD CONCERNS SINCE I WAS BORN.

I'VE LIVED ON THE PROPERTY AND THEY'RE AT TIMES OF FLOODING, WHICH WOULD AFFECT THESE RESIDENTS.

UM, THERE'S BEEN TIMES WHERE WE ARE UNABLE TO LEAVE OUR HOME.

THE ROAD IS BLOCKED BY SAID DEBRIS THAT MY NEIGHBOR WAS STATING.

UM, THERE IS ALSO INSTANCES WHERE THE CREEK OVERFLOWS, AND THAT'S NOT JUST ON OUR PROPERTY, THAT'S ALL THE PROPERTY THAT THEY ARE SAID PROPOSING.

THERE IS ALSO A CONCERN PERSONALLY FOR CRIME.

UM, I HAVE AN 84 YEAR OLD GRANDMOTHER, AND THE INHERITANCE OF THE PROPERTY WOULD ALSO BE SENIOR CITIZENS AS WELL.

THE AREA ON OUR SIDE, WHICH IS PART OF THE CREEK, UM, THERE, IT'S VERY REMOTE.

THERE'S NO HIGH SPEED INTERNET.

THERE'S NO, SO THERE'S NO REALLY OPTION TO PROVIDE SECURITY FOR MY FAMILY, EVEN AS OF NOW.

UM, AND SO WITH 800 OR 600 HOUSES, THERE'S A RAILROAD TRACK, AND THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS THAT WE'VE SEEN JUST PASS BY, WHICH ISN'T REALLY A CONCERN.

BUT THE CONCERN FOR MYSELF IS THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE THREE SENIOR CITIZENS ON A 10 ACRE PROPERTY WITH NO SECURITY AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF NEW PEOPLE WHO WONDER THE AREA.

AND AS A CHILD MYSELF, I WENT UNDERNEATH THAT RAILROAD TRACK AND I EXPLORED ALL THAT LAND, AND I GOT REALLY SCARED BY THE HORSES THAT WERE BACK THERE .

SO THAT, THAT'S A HIGH LEVEL OF CONCERN FOR MYSELF AS WELL AS FAR AS CRIME.

UM, ALSO I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT SINCE ANNEXATION THERE HAS BEEN LIMITED, UH, CITY, I GUESS, SUPPORT THERE.

WE DON'T HAVE SEWER SYSTEMS YET.

LIKE I SAID, THERE'S NO HIGH-SPEED DATA, NO HIGH-SPEED INTERNET.

ANY TYPE OF MODERN TECHNOLOGY IS, WE'RE STILL VERY LIMITED TO.

AND ALSO THERE IS NO, UM, TRASH COLLECTION.

AND JUST IDEALLY THE LEVEL OF COMFORT THAT MYSELF AND MY NEIGHBORS HAVE EXPERIENCED FOR THE PAST.

I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR 27 YEARS, BUT SINCE THEN, UM, I FEEL LIKE IT'D BE NOT A BAD THING, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST MAYBE LOOK OVER, FIGURE SOMETHING ELSE OUT.

JUST, YEAH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THAT CONCLUDES OUR CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.

UH, CAROLINE, I'LL ASK THE APPLICANT IF SHE HAS ANY REBUTTAL.

YES, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

UH, I JUST WANTED TO BRIEFLY DISCUSS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT CAME UP.

UM, YES, THERE IS A LARGE FLOODPLAIN THAT CUTS THROUGH OUR PROPERTY, BUT OUR ENGINEERS ARE CURRENTLY, UH, DOING THE DRAINAGE STUDY TO, UH, FIGURE OUT THE POTENTIAL DETENTION AND MITIGATION.

UM, AS IS ALL, YOU KNOW, FREQUENTLY SAID, BUT IT STANDS TRUE, WE WILL COMPLY WITH ALL STATE AND LOCAL LAWS AND ORDINANCES ON DRAINAGE, WHICH IS WE CANNOT, YOU KNOW, HAVE OUR HOMES FLOODED AND WE CANNOT INCREASE THE, UH, FLOW ONTO ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

UM, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I'LL START ON MY RIGHT HAND SIDE.

COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THE RAILROAD, IF YOU CAN PRESS YOUR MIC, SIR.

UH, THE RAILROAD CONDITIONS THAT, UH, ARE CLOSE TO THE HOUSES, THEY'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT AREA.

AND I WAS JUST WONDERING ABOUT THE NOISE.

I THINK THAT WAS ADDRESSED TO ME.

HI.

HI, COMMISSIONER.

UH, YES, WE, THERE IS

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A, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S A CITY CODE REQUIREMENT OF A 25 FOOT, UM, SETBACK FROM A RAILROAD.

AND WE WILL HAVE, UM, A SOUND BARRIER FENCE ALONG THAT, THE, THAT PROPERTY LINE.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER DKI IS THE LOT ACTUALLY IN FLOOD ZONE A IN ITS CURRENT CONDITION.

HI, COMMISSIONER.

I, I APOLOGIZE.

I DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION BEFORE ME, BUT I CAN FOLLOW UP.

I CAN CHAIR IT WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER.

OKAY.

NO FURTHER QUESTION.

COMMISSIONER PECK, UH, NO REAL QUESTIONS.

JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE'RE NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT DRAINAGE TODAY.

WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE PLAN AMENDMENT.

UM, AND IN MY OPINION, UM, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF, UH, DONE A LOT OF WORK DOWN IN THIS AREA.

AND, UM, THIS AREA IS, IS, IS DEVELOPING FAST IN THIS, UH, RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION WILL BE A GOOD USE FOR THIS LAND.

UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT WILL BRING THE SERVICES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE HIGH-SPEED INTERNET, THE SEWER, THE WATER, ALL THAT WILL COME WITH THAT SUBDIVISION.

'CAUSE BY CODE THEY'LL HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT.

SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD USE OF THE LAND AND I'LL BE IN SUPPORT.

COMMISSIONER PROFIT.

UH, THANKS.

NO, UH, KIND OF ECHOING, COMMISSIONER PECK, I THINK, UH, UH, ONE OF THE, UH, SPEAKERS MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS KIND OF, UH, OVERGROWN, UH, THE CITY WASN'T MAINTAINING IT.

UH, IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY, SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE THAT WAS THE CITY'S PURVIEW, BUT A BUT A DEVELOPER COMING IN AND LANDOWNER, HOPEFULLY ARE GOING TO MAKE, UH, YOU KNOW, BETTER USE OF AND MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY.

AND AS COMMISSIONER PECK SAID, I THINK THAT THEY'RE GONNA BRING IN, YOU KNOW, THE SERVICES LIKE THE WATER AND SEWER, AND HOPEFULLY AS MORE PEOPLE ARE THERE, THE DEMANDS FOR INTERNET AND OTHER SERVICES WILL EXPAND AS WELL.

SO, UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS.

THANKS COMMISSIONER SIEGEL.

I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES.

I WAS JUST WONDERING, CAN THE, UM, CITY STAFF CASEWORKER LET THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS DIVISION KNOW THAT ABOUT THE FLOODING ISSUES AND CASE, I MEAN, I KNOW, I KNOW THIS APPLICANT, UH, IF IT GOES THROUGH, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THEIR OWN STUDIES REGARDING DRAINAGE, BUT IF THERE NEEDS TO BE ANY BOND RESOURCES OR ANYTHING ALLOCATED, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A SEVERE FLOODING ISSUE AND SINCE IT'S NOW PART OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

YES, SIR.

ALL AGENCIES WILL BE NOTIFIED.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND THEN, UM, CAN THE APPLICANT, UH, TALK ABOUT WHAT KIND OF UTILITIES THAT WILL BE BROUGHT IN FOR THE HOUSES? WE HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT A LACK OF UTILITIES, AND BEFORE WE JUST ASSUME THAT IT'S GONNA BRING IN A LOT OF UTILITIES.

CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? YES.

HI, COMMISSIONER.

UH, YES.

SEWER, WATER, TRASH PICKUP.

UM, INTERNET WILL BE BROUGHT ALONG WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND THEN, UH, CAN WE SEE A MAP THAT SHOWS WHERE THE, A CLOSE ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT IS? THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE WORKSHOP.

I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE CAN JUST SEE HOW CLOSE IT IS, BECAUSE THE SURROUNDING AREA IS VERY RURAL.

SO BEFORE WE APPROVE IT, COMMISSIONER, IF I CAN, UM, WE DID WORK ON THAT SITE.

IT'S CALLED C UH, SOUTHTON COVE.

UM, THEY ARE, THEY'RE A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION, UH, SOUTH OF SOUTHTON ROAD.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER ORIAN? UH, YES.

UH, UH, TWO QUESTIONS.

UH, ONE FOR STAFF.

ON THE ONE STOP MAP, IT REFLECTS THAT THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTHWEST IS ZONE O C L.

UH, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT SEEMS TO BE REFLECTED ON ON THE, UM, UH, EXHIBIT ATTACHED TO THIS CASE.

CAN YOU COMMENT ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S O C L OR ZONED SOMETHING ELSE? AND THEN ALSO, UH, ON THE PROPOSED, UH, UM, USES, THEY SHOW AGRIBUSINESS SURROUNDED BY, BUT ON THE ZONING MAP IT'S SHOWING, IT'S, IT'S MO PREDOMINANTLY ZONED I TWO ARE, ARE THERE, ARE THERE, UH, ESTABLISHED INDUSTRIAL USES IN THIS AREA? I'M JUST CURIOUS 'CAUSE I, TWO'S KIND OF, KIND OF TOUGH BEING A NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR AND ALL.

COMMISSIONER, IF I, IF I MAY, UM, I, I DID DO A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH BECAUSE I WAS, UH, CURIOUS.

THE I TWO THAT'S IN PROXIMITY TO US IS OWNED BY C P S.

THEY OWN ABOUT 400 ACRES.

UH, WE DID REACH OUT TO THEM AND THERE ARE NO IMMEDIATE PLANS.

UM, BUT IF THEY DO DEVELOP, THEY WILL HAVE TO ADHERE TO A 40 FOOT BUFFER, 50 FOOT SETBACK, EIGHT FOOT FENCE IN ADDITION TO THE, THE SETBACKS THAT WE ARE INCLUDING.

OKAY.

AND, AND DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE PROPERTY TO THE, TO THE NORTHWEST? IS THAT O C L? IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S

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ODD THAT THERE'S THIS ONE LITTLE ISLAND OF O C L SHOWN ON THE ONE STOP MAP.

YEAH, IT, IT, IT MAY BE SUBJECT TO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

UH, I'M NOT COMPLETELY POSITIVE ON THAT.

WHEN THEY DID THE 2016 ANNEXATION, SOME PROPERTIES, UM, DID HAVE A NON ANNEXATION AGREEMENT INCLUDED.

THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY RESPONSE TO YOU IS THEY LIKELY HAVE A NON ANNEXATION AGREEMENT.

BUT, UH, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON YOUR LAND USE MAP, UM, AS PART OF YOUR PACKET SHOWS YOU ALL OF THE, WHAT WE KNOW AS THE, UH, EXISTING LAND USES IN THE AREA.

BUT THAT PIECE IS O C L, PROBABLY BECAUSE OF A NON ANNEXATION AGREEMENT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

I DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

UM, I DO JUST WANNA MAKE A COUPLE, UH, COMMENTS.

UM, I'M ECHOING COMMISSIONER PECK'S COMMENTS THAT, UH, WE'RE NOT HERE TO DISCUSS THE DRAINAGE OR, OR POSSIBLE FLOODING THAT WILL, UM, BE FIGURED OUT WITHIN THE PROCESS.

UH, MS. FLORES, UH, YOU DID BRING UP A COUPLE ITEMS ABOUT CRIME AND, AND HOMELESSNESS.

UM, I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

UM, THIS IS COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE COMMENT IN, IN MY OPINION, BUT, UH, USUALLY WITH DEVELOPMENT AND, AND POPULATION AND MORE PEOPLE, CRIME GOES DOWN BECAUSE THERE'S MORE PEOPLE AROUND AND, AND HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE NOT GONNA BE USUALLY AROUND, UM, HIGH, UH, DENSITY AREAS.

AND SO I, UM, AGAIN, THAT'S MY OPINION, THAT'S MY EXPERIENCE.

UM, BUT FOR THE SOUTHERN GATEWAY OF SAN ANTONIO, I AM EXCITED TO SEE, UH, THIS LAND BEING USED, UH, FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING.

AND I DO THINK WE NEED IT, ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA, AS THIS AREA IS DRAMATICALLY GROWING.

YES, SIR.

I DID JUST WANT TO ANSWER THE COMMISSIONER'S QUESTION.

THE, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WE'RE LOOKING AT IS GENERALLY IN HERE.

THIS IS THE SOUTHTON COVE SUBDIVISION, UH, THAT WAS REFERENCED.

SO WE, FOR SOME REASON WE CAN'T GET THE AERIAL TO TURN ON, BUT THAT'S THE KB HOME SOUTHTON COVE DEVELOPMENT.

THANK YOU.

AT THIS TIME I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS? I JUST WANNA LET THE, UH, PEOPLE HERE.

WHAT, WHAT CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT IS THIS? I BELIEVE IT'S THREE.

PLEASE REACH OUT TO YOUR COUNCILMAN.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF SERVICES THAT YOU GUYS ARE IN NEED OF, SO PLEASE REACH OUT TO THEM AND DEMAND A MEETING WITH THEM TO GET THAT ADDRESSED AND REMIND THEM THAT WE HAVE A BOND ISSUE COMING UP SOON.

SO THAT MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER GARCIA.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CLARIFY, IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY COUNCIL DISTRICT FOUR.

OKAY.

UM, DISTRICT THREE THAT THE ITEMS POSTED AS COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE, IS THAT CORRECT, CHRISTIE? IT, IT IS, UH, COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE.

OKAY.

WE'RE UTILIZING A NEW SYSTEM AND APPARENTLY IT CHANGED IT .

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE.

AND, UH, WE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE IN THE AUDIENCE.

UH, CHRIS V IF YOU'D LIKE TO ASK HIM ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL.

UM, BUT WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, TO APPROVE FROM COMMISSIONER PROFIT.

A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PECK.

ROLL CALL PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER PROFIT? YES.

VICE CHAIR PECK? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHRISTOPHER GARCIA? YES.

COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES.

COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YES.

COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA? YES.

COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES.

MADAM CHAIR GONZALEZ? YES.

MOTION PASSES.

A TO ZERO.

THANK YOU.

UH, I'M GONNA REQUEST THAT WE TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK BEFORE THIS NEXT ITEM, IF THAT'S OKAY.

IT IS, UH, WE WILL RETURN AT 3 45 1 2 THIRDS.

1, 2, 3, 4 OF US.

I JUST WONDER.

OH, NEVERMIND.

OKAY, THANKS.

BYE.

OKAY.

IT IS 3 45.

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OKAY.

IT IS 3 45.

I'M CALLING THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

MY GAVEL HITTING SKILLS ARE NOWHERE NEAR, UH, COMMISSIONER GARCIA'S, BUT I'LL WORK ON IT.

SIR.

[24. PLAN AMENDMENT CASE PA-2020-11600063 (Council District 1): A request by Brown & Ortiz, P.C., representative, for Approval of a Resolution to amend the Downtown Area Regional Center Plan, a component of the Comprehensive Master Plan of the City, by changing the future land use from "High Density Residential" "Medium Density Residential" and "Parks Open Space" to "High Density Residential" on 4.409 acres out of NCB 886, NCB 887, NCB 3591, generally located at the intersection of Mt. Zion Walk and IH 37 South. Staff recommends Approval. (Associated Zoning Case Z-2020-10700223) (Lorianne Thennes, Sr. Planner (210) 207-7945, Lorianne.Thennes@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)]

WE HAVE, UH, ONE FINAL ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

ITEM NUMBER 24.

WE HAVE CITIZENS TO BE HEARD AND VOICEMAILS ALSO, BUT FIRST I'LL ASK IF THERE'S A STAFF PRESENTATION.

YES MA'AM.

ITEM NUMBER 24 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE DOWNTOWN AREA REGIONAL CENTER PLAN FROM HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, MEDIUM DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL AND PARKS AND OPEN SPACE TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

THIS IS A 4.409 ACRE PROPERTY, GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF MOUNT ZION WALK AND I H 37 SOUTH.

THERE WERE 104 NOTICES MAILED.

ONE WAS RECEIVED IN FAVOR, 11 WERE RECEIVED OPPOSED.

LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.

THERE WERE FIVE RESIDENTS OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT THAT WERE IN FAVOR.

THERE WERE THREE RESIDENTS OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA THAT WERE OPPOSED.

AND THERE WAS ONE RESIDENT WITHIN THE 200 FEET THAT WAS THE OPPOSED.

THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A PLAN AMENDMENT TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO REZONE TO IDZ TWO WITH USES PERMITTED FOR 18.5 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE AND IDZ THREE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR 65 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

THE PROPOSED HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA, ESPECIALLY WITH INTERSTATE 37 RUNNING ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THE REQUEST ADHERES TO THE GOALS OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA REGIONAL CENTER PLAN BY ATTRACTING ADDITIONAL HOUSING AND A DIVERSITY OF EMPLOYMENT OPTIONS IN THE DOWNTOWN CORE IN PROVIDING A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

REPRESENTATIVES FROM BROWN AND ORTIZ ARE AVAILABLE FOR PRESENTATION AND QUESTIONS.

AND AS YOU MENTIONED BEFORE, WE DO HAVE NUMEROUS VOICEMAILS AND SOME IN-PERSON SPEAKERS.

MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU.

THE APPLICANT LIKE TO PROVIDE A PRE PRESENTATION.

EXCUSE ME.

THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY.

UH, JUST TAKE A MOMENT.

IT HASN'T BEEN UP HERE IN A WHILE, SO JUST TRYING TO GET READJUSTED , UM, MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSION, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

JAMES MCKNIGHT, BRIAN ORTIZ, 1 1 2 EAST PECAN.

UM, SO THE, THE PROJECT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT TODAY IS ACTUALLY FOR, UH, VICTORIA COMMONS.

IT'S A LARGER PROJECT THAT WAS STARTED IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS.

UM, IT'S PART OF A, A SAN ANTONIO HOUSING AUTHORITY PROJECT.

SO, UM, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH, UH, SAHA, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR PRIMARY GOAL IS TO REALLY, TO ADD MUCH NEEDED HOUSING AND QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT ALSO TO INTEGRATE THAT INTO THE FABRIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THAT'S PART OF WHAT THIS PROJECT HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT.

LEMME GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO THIS IS A MAP ORIENTING YOU TO THE PROJECT.

I KNOW THAT THERE WAS AN OR AERIAL, BUT THIS IS, THIS IS SHOWING ALL OF THE PROJECTS.

SO THAT'S CESAR CHAVEZ TO THE NORTH I 37 TO THE EAST AND LABOR STREET TO THE WEST.

AND ALL OF THAT WAS INCLUDED AS PART OF THE ORIGINAL REZONING.

IN 2002, THE, UH, TWO A APARTMENT COMPLEXES TO THE NORTH HEMI VIEW AND REFUGIO PLACE HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED.

THERE WERE SOME, UH, IN THE CENTER WHERE YOU SEE THE NUMBER SEVEN, THAT'S ARTISAN PARK.

SOME OF THOSE HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED.

AND THEN DOWN SOUTH OF SEVEN AND SIX, YOU'LL SEE HOMES ALONG LEE STREET.

THOSE WERE CONSTRUCTED, THOSE WERE ALL PART OF THAT ORIGINAL PLAN.

TODAY, WHAT WE'RE REZONING FOR, WE'RE ASKING FOR THE REZONING, FOUR IS FOR FIVE, SIX, AND SEVEN AND 10 ON THIS MAP.

SO OUT OF ALL OF THAT PROJECT, THESE ARE THE REMAINING AREAS THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR.

AND SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PLAN AMENDMENT, ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS NUMBER SIX.

THAT'S THE SOUTH POND AREAS.

I'LL, I'LL REFER TO IT.

THIS IS A, A PLAN SHOWING THE ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT THE, THE ACTUAL LAYOUT WILL BE FOR THE PROJECT.

IT'S A MIX OF USES.

THAT'S THE YELLOW SHOWS, HIGH DENSITY APARTMENTS, UM, PURPLE SHOWS, SOME FOURPLEXES.

THERE'S SOME TOWN HOMES IN, IN ORANGE, SOME DETACHED, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING, SOME ATTACHED TO SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING.

THE Y M C A CENTER HAS SOME PLANNED AS WELL.

THAT'S NOT PART OF THE REZONING, BUT STILL PART OF THE PROJECT.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THIS IS, LIKE I SAID, JUST OUR PORTION IS THE 4.4 ACRES OF THE SOUTH POND OR THE SOUTH DETENTION BASIN.

RIGHT NOW, PORTION OF IT IS HIGH DENSITY.

A PORTION OF IT IS MEDIUM DENSITY PORTION OF IT'S, UH, OPEN SPACE THAT IS PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE PLAT THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE FROM THE PREVIOUS, UM, ITERATION OF THAT PLAN.

UM, AND I, I WAS GONNA, I'M GONNA GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT LATER.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PLAN, YOU CAN SEE THAT NOT JUST THE HIGHWAY, BUT THE, TO THE NORTH OF YOU, YOU HAVE THIS HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

YOU HAVE THESE APARTMENT BUILDINGS.

THIS IS A DOWNTOWN AREA.

THIS IS THE DOWNTOWN AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE THESE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE THEM ALONG THE HIGHWAY.

AND YOU CAN ASK

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ANY PLANNING PRINCIPLE THAT YOU LOOK AT WHEN YOU HAVE A HIGH, WHEN YOU HAVE THAT LARGE OF AN AREA.

UM, ACCESS IS ONE THING.

ACCESS IS ONE THING YOU LOOK AT FOR THESE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, BUT IT'S ALSO LOCATION.

BECAUSE IMAGINE IF YOU TRIED TO PUT A TWO STORY OR THREE STORY SINGLE FAMILY HOME IN THAT AREA, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THESE HIGH RISES.

AND OURS IS ONLY A FOUR, FIVE STORY.

THAT'S ALL WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THAT AREA IS A FIVE STORY.

UM, YOU HAVE THEM ALONG THE HIGHWAY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S MOST APPROPRIATE.

THAT'S WHAT PLANNING WILL TELL YOU IS THAT'S NOT WHERE YOU PUT YOUR SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING.

NOW THIS AREA WAS PART OF A, AN OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD THAT GOT CUT THROUGH WITH A LARGER HIGHWAY AT ONE POINT, AND THAT KIND OF CHANGED THE CIRCUMSTANCES.

WE NO LONGER HAVE THAT KIND OF ACCESS BECAUSE OF THE HIGHWAY.

TDOT WON'T ALLOW US TO CONNECT THERE.

SO WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE LEFT WITH IS THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS UP AGAINST A HIGHWAY, WHICH YOU TYPICALLY SEE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND, BUT IT'S BEHIND THESE OTHER USES SOME HIGH DENSITY, SOME MEDIUM DENSITY.

IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THAT, WE HAVE MULTIPLE ACCESS AREAS, MULTIPLE STREETS THAT CAN ACCESS THIS AREA.

BUT FROM THE, FROM THE, JUST THE MAP ITSELF, YOU CAN SEE HOW HIGH DENSITY CAN FIT INTO THAT, INTO THAT MAP.

TRANSITION IS ANOTHER PART OF BEING A HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

IT'S A TRANSITION BETWEEN NON IN RESIDENTIAL USES, LOWER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES.

OFTEN THAT'S BECAUSE YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL OR SOME KIND OF INDUSTRIAL ON THE OTHER SIDE.

IN THIS CASE, A HIGHWAY IS THAT NON-RESIDENTIAL USE HIGHWAY SERVES THE SAME PURPOSE, BUT IT'S IN THE DEFINITION OF A HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE IS THAT TRANSITION BETWEEN, IN THIS CASE A HIGHWAY AND THE LOWER DENSITY TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST.

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I'VE SHOWN THIS SLIDE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION BEFORE, BUT I THINK IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS WORTH REPEATING BECAUSE THIS IS PART OF THE SAN ANTONIO TOMORROW PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED.

THIS IS THE SAN ANTONIO'S POLICY, LOOKING AT THE POPULATION GROWTH THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS, 19 YEARS NOW AS THE CLOCK TICKS.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT 1.1 MILLION NEW RESIDENTS, 500,000 NEW DWELLING UNITS.

WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT.

THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN IDEAS OF THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS TO DEAL WITH THIS.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

HERE WE HAVE, AGAIN TAKEN STRAIGHT FROM THE SAN ANTONIO TOMORROW PLAN.

THE DEMAND ON THE LAND IS, IS INCREASING.

AND SO THE ONLY WAY TO DECREASE THAT DEMAND IS TO INCREASE THE DENSITY.

SO THAT'S WHAT THE SAN ANTONIO TOMORROW PLAN IS CALLING.

WE NEED TO INCREASE DENSITY IN AREAS THAT ARE UNUSED AND IN, IN, IN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS THAT MAY HAVE ALREADY SEEMED LOW DENSITY, MEDIUM DENSITY.

THIS PLAN IS CALLING FOR US TO INCREASE THAT DENSITY EVERYWHERE.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE HERE.

WE HAVE VACANT PROPERTY AND WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE, ARE, UM, ABLE TO HANDLE THOSE INCREASE IN DENSITY THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.

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THESE ARE SOME OF THE GOALS FROM THE DOWNTOWN AREA PLAN.

MM-HMM.

, THERE ARE SEVERAL, THERE ARE MANY GOALS OF THIS PLAN, BUT NOT ALL OF 'EM ARE LAND USE RELATED.

SO I, I PULLED SOME OF THE ONES THAT WERE MORE LAND USE RELATED DIVERSITY, DIVERSIFY THE MIX OF USES IN THE DOWNTOWN CORE ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPMENT OF, OF VACANT LOTS IN THE CITY CENTER.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THIS PLAN IS THESE VACANT LOTS IN THE CITY, CITY CENTER.

AND DIVERSIFYING THOSE USES BROADEN THE DIVERSITY OF THE HOUSING OPTIONS IN THAT DOWNTOWN CORE.

AS I'VE SHOWN YOU BEFORE, WE'RE PROPOSING THIS DIVERSITY OF HOUSING.

WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, WE HAVE ATTACHED, WE HAVE TOWN HOMES, WE HAVE FOURPLEXES APARTMENTS.

THAT DIVERSITY OF HOUSING IS COMPLETELY IN LINE WITH THE GOALS OF THE DOWNTOWN PLAN, CREATE GREATER OPPORTUNITIES FOR PARKS, PUBLIC SPACE AND RECREATION.

WE'RE KEEPING THE PARK AREA THAT'S THERE ALREADY, BUT WE'RE HAVING, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE CONNECTING THAT THROUGH THE PROPERTY AND HAVING A TRAIL SYSTEM THAT, THAT ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH I'LL SHOW ON A LATER SLIDE, BUT OUR PROJECT ABSOLUTELY MEETS THOSE, THAT GOAL.

NEXT GOAL IS PROMOTE THE CELL HEALTH, SORRY, SAFETY, HEALTH AND SUSTAINABILITY.

UM, HIGH QUALITY URBAN DESIGN.

THIS ISN'T AN AN ARCHITECTURE REVIEW AND THIS ISN'T A ZONING HEARING, BUT WE HAVE GONE THROUGH A LOT OF EFFORT TO CREATE A HIGH QUALITY URBAN DESIGN PROJECT.

ONE THAT RESPONDS TO THE AREA AND TO THE RESIDENCE.

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SO THIS IS A DEFINITION THAT YOU CAN FIND IN U D C OF THE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ARE SURROUNDED BY NEIGHBORS.

WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND US, DIFFERENT FACTIONS OF NEIGHBORS AROUND US.

I'LL SHOW YOU THE OUTREACH THAT WE'VE DONE, BUT IT HAS BEEN A BIG, BIG PART OF EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE GONE THROUGH.

AND ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT GETS BROUGHT UP IS ONE OF THE LAST SENTENCES YOU'LL SEE THERE.

HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USAGE SHOULD BE LOCATED IN A MANNER THAT DOES NOT ROUTE TRAFFIC THROUGH LOWER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES.

SO THAT'S BEEN USED AGAINST US BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION OF OUR PROPERTY.

WE THERE, THERE'S SEVERAL WAYS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THIS.

IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THE FIRST THING I'LL SAY IS THAT LEE STREET IS ON THE

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SOUTH END OF HERE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT RED ARROW, THAT'S LEE STREET, THE PRI THE THE TRAFFIC THAT IS COMING TO THIS SITE FOR THAT SOUTH POND.

NUMBER SIX, IT'S COMING FROM CAESAR CHAVEZ DOWN LABOR STREET.

YOU GOT SANTOS STREET FIRST, THEN YOU CROSS REFUGIO STREET AND THEN LEE STREET TO THE SOUTH.

THE ACCESS TO THIS PROPERTY IS NOT THROUGH ONE STREET, IT'S THROUGH ITS, UH, UH, DIVERSITY OF ACCESS POINTS.

NOW THESE, THE, THE SERVICE LEVEL OF THEM IS REALLY IMPORTANT AS WELL.

YOU'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT THE, THE SIZE OF THE STREET BECAUSE THIS IS A DOWNTOWN AREA.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT DOWNTOWN STREETS.

NOW THESE ARE NOT HIGHWAYS OR COLLECTORS, BUT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE HAS TO BE LOOKED AT.

WE'VE DONE A STUDY ON THAT.

WE'VE DONE THE STUDY FOR WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

AND THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IN THESE AREAS DOESN'T DROP SIGNIFICANTLY.

YOU GET A SLIGHTLY LONGER QUEUING TIME BY ABOUT TWO CARS AND YOU MAY GET MORE CARS THAN YOU HAD BEFORE, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN DEVELOPED YET.

I MEAN, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE, THE PROJECT NUMBER ONE, FIVE AND SIX, THESE WERE PLANNED FOR DEVELOPMENT.

IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET.

SO YES, THE CARS, THE TRAFFIC THAT'S THERE HASN'T COME TO FRUITION YET.

AND HERE WE ARE PROPOSING THE PROJECT THAT HAD ALWAYS BEEN PLANNED FOR, BUT NOW WITH MORE, MORE DENSITY FOR THOSE HIGHER DENSITY AREAS.

THE OTHER THING I'LL SAY IS THAT, UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE PRINCIPLES YOU LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE ROUTING TRAFFIC.

WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY ROUTING TR I MEAN THAT'S ONE OF THE ROUTES TO TAKE, BUT IT'S ONE PLANNING PRINCIPLE TO LOOK AT YOU.

ALSO, AS I SAID BEFORE, IT'S LOCATION.

YOU KNOW, OUR LOCATION IS NEXT TO A HIGHWAY AND A DOWNTOWN AREA.

YOU CAN SEE THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT ARE NORTH OF US, WE'RE PROPOSING THE SAME USE.

AND, AND THE NORTH BASIN NUMBER FIVE ALREADY HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

IT ACTUALLY BEGS THE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, WHY IF YOU, UM, TURN THE SLIDE PLEASE.

YOU SAID THAT GREEN AREA IS OPEN SPACE AND THAT L SHAPE IS MEDIUM DENSITY RIGHT NOW.

WELL, WHY DID IT GET, WHY WAS IT PROPOSED THAT WAY IN IN 2019? WHY DIDN'T IT GET INCLUDED IN HIGH DENSITY? WELL, I BELIEVE IF YOU SPOKE TO STAFF ABOUT IT, YOU'D SAY, WELL, BECAUSE IT WAS PLATTED THAT WAY, THEY DID THE PLAN TO MATCH WHAT THE PLATT WAS AT THAT TIME.

THEY'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL NOW BECAUSE HAD IT NOT BEEN PLOTTED, I BELIEVE THEY WOULD'VE RECOMMENDED HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FOR THAT AT THE TIME, AT THE TIME THEY LOOKED AT THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.

BECAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER STAFFS, THE, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT THIS, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THIS HOLISTICALLY.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE DOWNTOWN AREA AND REGIONAL AREA.

THEY'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT ONE FOUR ACRE LOT.

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OH, I'M SORRY.

I'M, IF YOU KEEP IT THERE.

ONE THING I WANTED TO SAY ABOUT THIS, THAT BLUE OUTLINE AREA, THAT'S, THAT IS THE PROJECT THAT WE STARTED WITH IN TERMS OF A PLAN AMENDMENT.

ORIGINALLY WHEN WE FILED THIS IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR, THAT WAS FOR 14 ACRES OF, OF REGIONAL MIXED USE.

IT WAS A LOT MORE INTENSE.

IT HAD 60 UNITS AN ACRE FOR THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.

IT HAD, UM, WE WERE PROPOSING COMMERCIAL IN CERTAIN AREAS.

ALL OF THAT HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY TO WHAT WE'RE NOW ASKING FOR BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE REGIONAL MIXED USE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY.

SO IT, IT CAN BE APPROPRIATE IN THESE AREAS.

THAT'S WHAT WE STARTED WITH.

BUT AS I SAID, THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD FEEDBACK HAS BEEN A HUGE PART OF THIS.

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THIS IS JUST SHOWING THE ZONING MAP OF THE I D Z AREA AS AS IT IS NOW.

NEXT SLIDE.

THAT'S THE I D Z PLAN THAT WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED.

NOW THE, THE PART THAT'S OUTLINED IN BLUE, THAT'S OUR CURRENT ZONING REQUEST, BUT YOU CAN SEE ALL THOSE PORTIONS IN THE CENTER AREAS.

B, UH, C AND D AREAS B.

UH, THE TWO B AREAS WERE BOTH PLANNED TO BE 20 ACRES, UM, 20 UNITS PER ACRE.

ALL OF THE C AND D AREAS WERE PLANNED TO BE 25 UNITS AN ACRE.

WE'VE TAKEN THAT DOWN.

WE'RE MORE IN THE CENTER AREA.

WE'RE NOW MORE AT SOMEWHERE AROUND 16.

SO THIS AREA WAS PLANNED TO HAVE A LOT MORE HOUSING.

SO THE, THE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC THAT ISN'T THERE NOW, THAT'S BECAUSE IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET.

AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

AGAIN, THE OUTREACH, THIS IS A A, A RECORD IS NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE RECORD OF THE KIND OF OUTREACH THAT WE HAVE DONE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

YOU START WITH FEBRUARY OF 2020.

THAT WAS, UM, WHAT, SIX, SEVEN MONTHS BEFORE WE EVEN FILED THE APPLICATION.

SO WE STARTED EARLY AND, AND MAILED OUT, UM, POSTCARDS AND HAD LARGE, LARGE OUTREACH AS MANY AS WE COULD TO TRY TO GET THE FEEDBACK TO TRY TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THIS IS PART OF SA HA'S MISSION TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE ARE TRYING TO BE A PA PART OF THE FABRIC OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND WE WERE NOT SHY ABOUT IT, WE WEREN'T HIDING.

WE MET WITH EVERYONE, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACTIONS THAT WE NEED TO TO WORK WITH.

THE LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD IS JUST ONE OF THEM.

LEE STREET, UM, WAS A PART OF THE, THE DISCUSSIONS ALONG THE WAY, THE ARTISAN PARK NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY'RE ACTUALLY WITHIN THE, THE LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT WE HAD THEIR OWN, THEIR OWN GOALS BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE MORE CLOSELY, THEIR UH, THEIR PROXIMITY TO THE PROJECT IS CLOSER, BUT WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE TO DEAL WITH IS, IS THE POINT.

AND WE DID A LOT OF OUTREACH ALONG THE WAY.

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I DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH ALL THESE, BUT SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT THEY RAISED WERE ABOUT HEIGHT AND WE LOWERED HEIGHTS.

SOME OF 'EM WERE ABOUT, I DON'T WANT A MIX OF AFFORDABLE.

WE MADE 'EM ALL MARKET RATE.

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SOME OF 'EM WERE ABOUT, UM, PRESERVING SOME OF THE EXISTING TREES, WHICH WE DID IN LOWERING THE DENSITY, LOWERING THE HEIGHT, CREATING SOME MORE OPEN SPACE.

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TRAFFIC AND COMMERCIAL USES.

THOSE WERE BIG CONCERNS ALONG THE WAY AND WE, WE HAVE ADDRESSED THOSE IN OUR, AND THE BEST WAY THAT WE CAN ON THIS SITE.

ONE OF THOSE, IF YOU SEE, UM, ON THE TOP RIGHT POINT NUMBER THREE, CREATED ACCESS THROUGH SANTOS STREET.

THAT'S A BIG ONE.

THAT'S A REALLY BIG A UM, ACCESS POINT NOW TO THE REST OF THE SITE, ESPECIALLY FOR THE HIGH DENSITY AREAS THAT WAS IN DIRECT REACTION TO THE OUTREACH THAT WE DID WITH THE NEIGHBORS.

AND OF COURSE REMOVING THE COMMERCIAL ALTOGETHER.

SO LIKE I SAID, STARTED WITH 14 ACRES OF REGIONAL MIXED USE.

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AND WE, WE'VE GOTTEN ALL THE WAY DOWN.

OKAY, THESE ARE SOME MORE CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND PARKING, AGAIN, OVERALL USES FOR COMMERCIAL ON STREET PARKING IN THE AREA.

ALL OF THESE HAVE BEEN LOOKED AT AND ADDRESSED.

AND THERE IS AN INCREASE, AND THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR PART OF WHAT OUR STUDY LOOKED AT IS THAT WE'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF STUDYING THIS WHEN THERE AREN'T ENOUGH.

AREN'T A LOT OF CARS AROUND BECAUSE OF COVID? WELL, WE'VE DONE THE INCREASES IN OUR STUDIES TO SHOW, TO PICK UP THE, THE, THE SLACK FOR WHAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE THERE.

SO WE HAVE STUDIED THIS AND WHAT WHAT WE FIND IS THAT AGAIN, THE LEVEL OF SERVICE ON THESE STREETS DROPS MINIMALLY.

THE QUEUING, THE, THE NUMBER OF CARS, ALL OF IT DROPS MINIMALLY.

SOME CASES IT GOES FROM AN A TO AN A, SOME PLACES MAY BE FROM AN A TO A B, BUT OTHERWISE ALL REASONABLE DROPS, ALL REASONABLE, UM, OUTCOMES FOR THIS KIND OF DENSITY.

THIS IS THE SLIDE AGAIN SHOWING JUST THAT AREA TO, TO KIND OF ROUND IT OUT HOW WE WENT FROM 14 ACRES OF REGIONAL MIXED USE DOWN TO JUST 4.4 ACRES OF HIGH DENSITY.

THAT'S BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE DID AND THAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO AS PART OF THIS PROJECT IS ALREADY PLANNED FOR THE APARTMENTS IN THE HIGH DENSITY IN THE NORTH POND ARE ALL HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

ALL OF THE SINGLE FAMILY UNITS IN THE MIDDLE ALREADY PLANNED FOR MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND, AND TO THE SOUTH OF US.

UM, THAT OR IT, IT'S, YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE BOTTOM IT SAYS URBAN LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO CONSIDER AS WELL.

URBAN LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS NOT THE SAME THING AS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

IT ACTUALLY ALLOWS MULTIFAMILY MANUFACTURED HOUSING AND MIXES OF FOURPLEXES AND DUPLEXES.

WHEN YOU HAVE THE, THE TRAFFIC THAT'S COMING THROUGH LEE STREET, THE DENSITY THAT'S THERE, YOU'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT A HIGH DENSITY NEXT TO THESE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT HIGH DENSITY NEXT TO ESSENTIALLY A MEDIUM DENSITY.

SO IT'S A PERFECT TRANSITION FROM THAT, FROM THE HIGHWAY, FROM THE NORTHERN PART OF DOWNTOWN INTO THOSE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.

AGAIN, THIS IS THE, THE SITE AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE PROPOSED, SOME OF THE URBAN DESIGN THINGS I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THAT L SHAPE THAT WAS THERE, THAT WAS PLANNED TO BE TOWN HOMES ORIGINALLY, PART OF WHAT WE'VE HEARD ALONG THE WAY IS WE STILL WANT THE, WE'D LIKE THAT TO BE TOWN HOMES AND NOT APARTMENTS.

WELL WE'VE COMMITTED ON THE, THE YELLOW ON THE, THE SOUTH BASIN FOR THE AREAS THAT ARE ACROSS MOUNT ZION WALK TO BE THAT KIND OF TOWN HOME FEEL.

THERE'S STILL APARTMENTS BUT WE'VE STEPPED IT DOWN ALL THE WAY TO THREE STORIES.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE.

THIS IS LOOKING DOWN MOUNT ZION WALK OF THE HOMES, THE EXISTING HOMES ON THE LEFT AND THE APARTMENTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING ON THE RIGHT, NOT FIVE STORY, BUT THREE STORY MUCH IN LINE WITH WHAT YOU WOULD SEE FOR A THREE STORY TOWNHOUSE.

SO IN TERMS OF USE, IN TERMS OF DENSITY, WE HAVE NOT CHANGED WHAT IS BEING PLANNED FOR THAT STREET AND FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT.

WE HAVEN'T CHANGED ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE POND AREA, WHICH I GUESS UNFORTUNATELY FOR US WAS PLOTTED AT THE TIME THAT THEY ADOPTED THE PLAN.

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THIS IS AN EXAMPLE IN AUSTIN OF THE EXACT KIND OF USE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TO INCREASE THIS, UM, THE URBAN DESIGN THAT IS BEING CALLED FOR IN THE PLAN.

YOU'VE GOT THREE STORY ON THE RIGHT, TWO STORY TOWN HOMES ON THE LEFT.

SO YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT THAT'S WHAT WE ARE, WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE AND MEET THE GOALS OF THE PLAN.

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THIS IS JUST, UM, I HAD MENTIONED BEFORE THE CONNECTIVITY.

THAT'S ANOTHER GOAL OF THE SAN ANTONIO TOMORROW PLAN.

WE ARE PLANNING TO HAVE A CONNECTED TRAIL THAT COMES ALL THE WAY DOWN 37 AND OUR PROJECT CONNECTS THE LABOR STREET PARK THROUGH THE PROJECT TO THAT TRAIL.

UM, AND I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS, UH, I LIKE CONNECTING TRAILS SO I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS A NICE PLACE TO END.

BUT UH, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND UH, JUST RESERVE SOME TIME FOR REBUTTAL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MR. MCKNIGHT.

A FEW CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.

FIRST, UH, BARBARA MACHADO, IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME, YOUR ADDRESS IN TWO MINUTES PLEASE.

MY NAME IS BARBARA MACHADO.

I LIVE AT FIVE 20 REFUGIO.

I WAS THE FIRST PERSON TO MOVE INTO THE TOWNHOUSES THAT SAHA BUILT AND I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE REMEMBERING ALL THE THINGS THAT I SENT IN MY MESSAGES TO YOU, BUT APPARENTLY YOU'RE NEVER GONNA READ THEM.

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SO LET ME JUST TELL YOU THE THINGS THAT THIS MAN HAS TOLD YOU.

I HAVE BEEN GOING TO THEIR MEETINGS FOR 15 YEARS AS THEY CHANGE AND CHANGE AND WHAT HE'S TELLING YOU IS NOT WHAT WE GOT IN THE MAIL.

THEY'RE GONNA GET RID OF PART OF THE PARK AND THEY'RE GOING TO PUT THE BUILDING IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE IS GOING TO BE AN APARTMENT THAT IS 100% LOW INCOME.

THERE IS PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING IN REFUGIO PLACE AND IN HEMISPHERE AND WE HAVE A WONDERFUL MIX OF TRYING TO HELP LOW INCOME PEOPLE GET UP AND MOVE UP IN LIFE.

YOU CAN'T PUT 500 PEOPLE IN ONE BUILDING AND END UP WITH ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT THEY GOT RID OF WHEN THEY FINALLY GOT RID OF VICTORIA COURTS.

I AM 83.

I HAVE LIVED IN SAN ANTONIO FOR 70 YEARS.

I HAVE BEEN THROUGH VICTORIA COURTS.

I HAVE PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN VICTORIA COURTS AND THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN.

WE ARE GONNA END UP WITH THE SAME THING WHERE WE'RE BRINGING ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE TOGETHER.

WE'RE NOT HELPING THEM GET BETTER.

WE'RE SHOWING THEM HOW HORRIBLE IT IS WHEN THEY HAVE TO LIVE WITH POVERTY ALL AROUND THEM.

I'M SORRY, I'M ANGRY AND I REALLY AM ANGRY AT WHAT I'VE SEEN BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION THAT HE GAVE YOU.

THEY DIDN'T TELL YOU ABOUT THAT.

AND THE OTHER THING TOO, WE HAVE ASKED OVER AND OVER AND OVER ABOUT THOSE RETENTION PONDS, IF THEY WERE A PA PART OF THE PLAN WHEN THEY FIRST STARTED BUILDING AND TWO OF THEM WERE NECESSARY AND I HAVE BEEN THERE WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN FILLED TO THE TOP WITH WATER, WHY CAN THEY NOW FILL THEM IN AND PUT A FIVE STORY APARTMENT HOUSE ON THEM? WHERE'S THE WATER GOING AND ALL THE TRAFFIC WE'RE GOING FROM.

I WOULD LOVE IT IF Y'ALL WOULD COME DOWN AND I WOULD WALK YOU UP AND DOWN MY STREETS.

WE LAY IS NOT TOO LANE AND, AND, UH, TWO MINUTES.

THANK YOU.

I'LL SIT DOWN.

I'M SORRY.

THANK, THANK YOU MA'AM, BUT I'M VERY ANGRY.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

MILTON PORTERFIELD.

HELLO MILTON PORTERFIELD.

I HAVE SEVERAL PROPERTIES ON YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE, SIR.

OH, UH, 5 5 2 LEE STREET.

SO I, I HAVE TWO PROPERTIES ON LEE STREET AND WHEN I FIRST BROUGHT THAT, I WENT OVER THERE, IT WAS OCTOBER OF 19, 20 13 AND MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS WERE SOME YOUNG MEN, FILTHY CLOTHING, NO JOBS.

'CAUSE ALL IT DID WAS SIT ON THEIR PORCH WITH TWO PIT BULLS STAKED IN THE FRONT YARD.

SO THAT'S WHEN I MOVED INTO MY SHACK THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANY VALUE, THAT THE VALUE OF THAT ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD HAD BEEN RUINED BY SAHA.

AND THE PROJECT THAT GOT PUT THERE, THEY DIDN'T TAKE CARE OF IT, THEY DIDN'T MAINTAIN IT.

THEY RUINED THAT AREA OF TOWN.

THEN THEY FINALLY, BECAUSE THEY WERE GONNA PUT A BASKETBALL ARENA THERE, THEY SWEPT ALL THAT AWAY AND THEY MOVED THE BASKETBALL ARENA AND THEY GOT THE REBUILD.

SO THEY HAVE A HUGE VICTORY ON THEIR HANDS.

THEY HAVE TAKEN THAT AREA, THAT SAME SHACK, FIVE OR SIX OF US AT THE SAME TIME ARE WORKING ON HOUSES.

NOW THAT STUFF SELLS FOR 300, 350, $400 A SQUARE FOOT IMPROVED.

IT'S GOOD.

THE PLAN, THEY HAVE MIXED USE, 20% LOW INCOME AS COMPARED TO A HUNDRED PERCENT LOW INCOME HAS WORKED.

THE PLAN WAS PUT IN PLACE.

THESE PEOPLE HAVE DEEDS THAT THE PROPERTY PROPERTY WILL NOT CHANGE FROM THE ORIGINAL PLANS.

AND YOU HAVE A VICTORY.

YOU HAVE SAHA DOING SOMETHING RIGHT, GET OUTTA THE WAY, DON'T RUIN IT.

AGAIN, THERE'S MANY AREAS THEY CAN BUILD.

THEY JUST ARE BUILDING SOMETHING OFF.

I THINK IT'S LAREDO STREET, A BRAND NEW FOUR OR FIVE STORY GONNA BE A THOUSAND PEOPLE SAHA.

WHY HE GOT A SHOE HORNET IN AN AREA THAT WAS MARKED FOR DRAINAGE WHEN IT WAS ONLY GONNA BE LOW DENSITY AND NOW YOU'RE GONNA PUT A THOUSAND PEOPLE ON ALLEYS THAT ARE ABOUT THIS WIDE COMING OUTTA THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU NEED TO LIVE THERE.

YOU DON'T KNOW HOW NARROW IT IS.

I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE STUDY.

WHAT YOU PAY FOR IS WHAT YOU GET.

SO IF YOU PAY FOR A STUDY THAT'S GONNA BE ADEQUATE ROADS, YOU GET IT.

IT'S INADEQUATE.

IT'S ILL-TIMED.

SIR, IT'S BEEN TWO MINUTES.

THANK IT.

THANK YOU SIR.

DARREN MURPHY, FIRST AND LAST NAME, ADDRESS, AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME'S DARREN MURPHY.

UH, I LIVE AT 5 0 8 REFUGIO STREET.

I MOVED IN ARTISAN PARK TOWN HOMES IN 2013.

THEY WERE BUILT IN 2006.

THE FINAL PROJECT WAS SUPPOSED TO

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HAVE 200 TOWN HOMES OF SIMILAR SIZE AND SHAPE.

CURRENTLY THERE'S ONLY 22 THAT EXIST.

I MOVED IN, UM, TO LAVACA NEIGHBORHOOD AND I'VE SEEN IT FLOURISH WITH NEW DINING AND ENTERTAINMENT, UH, VENUES.

I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR DESIRE FOR HOUSING, UH, FOR UH, HOUSING AND ASSISTANCE IN MY CITY AND I WANT THE DEVELOPMENT TO FIT IN WITH THE EXISTING COMMUNITY.

I'M AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THE EXCHANGE OR THE CHANGING OF THIS LAND TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FOR FOUR REASONS.

STREET CONGESTION, DEEDED RESTRICTIONS, HEIGHT PLANS, AND THE LIKELY HARM TO MY TOWN HOME PROPERTY VALUE.

A TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DONE DURING THE C OVID 19 LOCKDOWN.

SEVERAL ASSUMPTIONS WERE MADE.

I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ANALYST BUT I KNOW THAT IF YOU ADD A LOT OF DWELLINGS IT'S GOING TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF CARS IN THE STREETS.

PART OF THEIR STUDY ASSUMES THAT THE ALLEYWAY BEHIND MY HOUSE WAS ONLY GO IT'S UM, WAS GONNA USE FOR UH, TRAFFIC.

IT'S ONLY WHITE ENOUGH FOR ONE CAR ON TRASH DAY.

SO, UH, THIS IS GONNA BE A AWAY FOR THE NEXT DEVELOPMENT OF THEIR TOWN.

THE, UH, TOWNHOUSES AND I WOULD LIKE AN ADDITIONAL INDEPENDENT UNBIASED STUDY DONE TO BACK UP THEIR INITIAL TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT.

DEEDED RESTRICTIONS, UM, THE ARTISAN PARK TOWN HOMES, COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND DEEDED RESTRICTIONS APPLIED TO A PORTION OF THE LAND THEY'RE DISCUSSING HERE ON MCMILLAN AND UM, ON MOUNT ZION.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GONNA FIT INTO OUR, UM, WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY.

UM, ARE THE ARCHITECTURAL CONTROL COMMITTEES GOING TO BE INVITED TO MEETINGS? ARE THEY GONNA PAY H O A DUES? ARE WE GONNA GET TO USE THEIR, UM, COMMON AREAS? RIGHT NOW? THE UH, TALLEST BUILDING IN THIS AREA IS UH, THREE STORIES.

ANYTHING HIGHER THAN THAT IS REALLY NOT GONNA FIT IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IF YOU BUILD A FIVE STORY THING IN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, IT'S GONNA MAKE EVERYTHING ELSE JUST LOOK LIKE TINY SAHA AND ELLA SAY THAT THEY ARE LISTENING.

WE'VE HAD LOTS OF MEETINGS AND THEY'RE STILL WANTING TO BUILD FIVE STORY TOWNHOUSES.

SIR, IT'S BEEN TWO MINUTES.

THANK YOU MUCH.

THANK YOU.

MAYE FERNANDEZ.

HI, I'M MAYE FERNANDEZ.

I LIVE AT 6 5 5 LEE STREET.

UM, I'M HERE TODAY TO VOICE MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE EPCON PROPOSAL ZONING PLANS FOR LAVACCA AREA.

WHAT WAS ONCE TO BE TOWNHOMES LINING.

MOUNT ZION AND MCMILLAN PLACE STREETS HAS BECOME A PROJECT OF IMMENSE SIZE IN COMPARISON MULTIPLE UNIT APARTMENTS TO BE BUILT ON A WATER RETENTION POND.

STUPID EXCESS WATER RAINWATER DRAINS INTO THESE AREAS AND HAS DONE SO FOR YEARS.

THE SURROUNDING AREAS HAS BEEN SPARED FROM FLOODING BASED ON THE RETENTION PONDS.

THE AREA WASN'T DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE SO MANY PEOPLE IN SUCH A, A SMALL AREA.

THE INGRESS AND EGRESS THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS CANNOT MANAGE THE AMOUNT OF VEHICLE TRAFFIC THAT IS BEING PROPOSED.

CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES, WORKERS NORMAL TRAFFIC WILL CREATE A HAZARD TO A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD HERE IN LAVACCA.

THIS IS NOT DOWNTOWN.

THIS IS A LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD PERIOD.

TAXPAYERS FUNDS WERE USED TO CREATE THIS AREA AND NOW IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD'VE BEEN WASTED TO REDO A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE TO BE DEVELOPED.

THE INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD NEED TO BE REDESIGNED AND MORE COST TO US ALL.

THERE JUST ISN'T ENOUGH ROOM SAHA STATED IN WRITING.

LIKE THEY SAID THAT THERE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE TOWNHOUSES.

THEY SHOULD BE KEPT TO THEIR WORD.

HAVING TO BE REBUILD THE ENTIRE SYSTEM WOULD WRECK OUR DAILY LIVES.

RESIDENTS ALREADY HERE ADDING TO SEVERAL THOUSAND PEOPLE IN A SMALL AREA ISN'T FEASIBLE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CURRENT COVID SITUATION WITH NO PARENT END IN SIGHT.

I DOUBT THAT COVID WAS IN PLACE WHEN THEY DID THE INITIAL STUDIES, BUT IT IS A FACT OF OUR LIFE NOW.

IT DOES NOT.

MA'AM, THAT WAS TWO MINUTES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I ALSO HAVE A PICTURE.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

NEXT STEP IS CALEB ETHERIDGE.

THIS IS THE RETENTION PIE.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

WHERE CAN I GIVE THIS TO Y'ALL SO Y'ALL COULD SEE? YOU CAN HAND IT TO CHRIS RIGHT HERE.

APPRECIATE IT CALEB.

TWO MINUTES PLEASE STATE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.

HI, I'M UH, CALEB ETHERIDGE, LIVE AT 5 3 5 LEE STREET.

UM, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE HI.

TIME TO HEAR MY COMMENTS.

I AM A RESIDENT OF LAVACCA AND HOMEOWNER ON LEE STREET.

UM, AS MANY INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS, I ALREADY KNOW WE WE ARE A PASSIONATE GROUP OF NEIGHBORS.

UH, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THOUGH THIS,

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THIS PASSION IS A GOOD THING, RIGHT? AND WHAT BUILDS A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

I I THINK IT'S PROBABLY EVEN THE IDEAL THAT SAHA AND ALAMO ARCHITECTS, UH, ENVISION WHEN THEY, UH, CREATED THE ORIGINAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH WE ALL HAD TO FOLLOW TO BUILD THIS COMMUNITY AROUND THAT PLAN IS WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS PRESENTED AND, AND IT SHOULD BE BUILT OUT AS SUCH TO HONOR THE INVESTMENT REQUIRED.

UH, TO BE CLEAR THOUGH WE ARE, WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT OR MIXED AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE ARE OPPOSED AND STRONGLY SO TO IT BEING POORLY PLANNED AND THE CONTINUOUSLY CHANGING STORY.

UH, I'M ALSO A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND CO-OWNER OF A LOCAL FIRM CORAL STUDIO, WHICH, UH, IS ALSO LOCATED IN LAVACCA IN A BUILDING WE PURCHASED AND INVESTED IN TO CONTINUE TO BE A PART OF BUILDING THIS COMMUNITY.

OVER MY CAREER, I'VE HAD, I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO HAVE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE WITH MULTI-FAMILY PROJECTS ON THE URBAN FRINGE, SUCH AS THE ONES PROPOSED WITH THIS NEW PLAN.

ABSOLUTELY NONE OF THOSE PROJECTS WERE DESIGNED TO HAVE TRAFFIC ROUTED THROUGH A NEIGHBORHOOD STREET IF THEY WERE ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY AREAS.

SPECIAL CARE WAS GIVEN TO ENSURE GARAGE ENTRIES WERE ACCESSED FROM THE COLLECTOR ROADS AND NOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.

SO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT EVEN IF THE TRAFFIC STUDY NUMBERS CAN SHOW THESE STREETS COULD HANDLE THE PROPOSED TRAFFIC, WHICH I'M SURE THEY CAN BE SHOWN TO DO.

SO, UH, THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT A SINGLE FAMILY STREET SHOULD BE THE ACCESS WAY TO NOT JUST ONE, BUT TWO MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS.

LASTLY, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, I'M ALSO A DAD AND HAVE A FIVE-YEAR-OLD SON WHO LOVES RIDING BIKES THROUGH SOUTHTOWN AND TO SCHOOL.

ADDING THIS MUCH DENSITY WOULD, UM, PROPERLY WITHOUT PROPERLY DESIGNING FOR TRAFFIC AND PARKING WILL SURELY CHANGE THAT EXPERIENCE FOR THE WORST.

PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING AND DENY THIS PLANNING REQUEST.

UNTIL WE ARE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER TO MEET THE STANDARDS WE SHOULD BE, WE SHOULD REQUIRE IN SUCH A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND CITY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THAT CONCLUDES OUR CITIZENS TO BE HEARD, BUT WE DO HAVE 18 VOICEMAILS TO BE PLAYED.

HI, MY NAME'S MARIE FERNANDEZ.

I LIVE AT 6 55 LAY STREET.

I'D LIKE TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN ABOUT THE ZONING IN THE LAVACCA, UM, ON MOUNT ZION.

WITH THE ZONING BEING IMPLEMENTED, THE AREA WOULD INCREASE THE, UH, IT WOULD CEASE TO BE A NEIGHBORHOOD AND WOULD BECOME ENGULFED BY DOWNTOWN BUSINESS.

HI, MY NAME IS JUAN GONZALEZ AND I LIVE AT SIX FIVE FIVE B STREET.

MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 548-4942.

AND THE LAST THREE DIGITS ARE 0 6 3.

ON THE CASE NUMBER I WAS CALLING 'CAUSE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE AREA.

WITH THE UP AND COMING ZONING CHANGES, YOU'RE GONNA BE PUTTING HIGH RISE BUILDINGS RIGHT NEXT TO HOUSES, INDIVIDUALS, SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS, AND WITH THE ZONING WALLS WHERE THEY ARE, YOU CANNOT DO THAT.

YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC AND SAFETY ISSUES IS SUCH A SMALL AREA.

SIDE STREETS.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY MAJOR THOROUGHFARES THROUGH THERE.

WE HAVE FU BUREAU, WE HAVE LEE STREET, AND THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.

SO IF YOU GUYS WOULDN'T MIND, PLEASE RECHECKING YOUR ZONING LAWS BECAUSE I, LIKE I SAID, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING, YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE, UH, BUILDINGS WITH SUCH A LARGE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE AND TRAFFIC FLOW NEXT TO HOUSES.

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF A BUFFER ZONE BETWEEN THAT.

IF IT'D BE GREAT IF YOU GUYS WILL GO AHEAD AND GO WITH THE ORIGINAL PLAN AND PUT UP THE TOWNHOUSES ON THE BACK OF LEE STREET WHEN MOUNT ZION WALKED AWAY ARE SUPPOSED TO, THEN THAT BUFFER MIGHT SUFFICE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND YOU HAVE A GOOD DAY.

MY NAME IS BARBARA MACHADO.

MY HOME IS 20.

HI, THIS IS AUSTIN BOHART AT 5 1 2 GIO STREET.

UM, AND THE ADDRESS OF THE REQUEST IS MOUNT ZION WALK IN ONE, UH, I 37.

AND I JUST WANNA LEAVE A MESSAGE, UM, REQUESTING THAT THE ZONING COMMISSION LOOK AT THE, UH, HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO REZONE.

UM, THEY, THEY NEED TO BE AWARE THAT THERE'S REALLY NO WAY TO ROUTE TRAFFIC INTO THE I 37 ACCESS ROAD.

UM, TRAFFIC WILL BE ROUTED ALONG LAY STREET AND REFUSAL STREET.

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UM, FOR THIS REASON, I BELIEVE THE SOUTH POND IS REALLY JUST A UNSUITABLE AREA FOR A HIGH DENSITY PROJECT, SUCH AS BEING PROPOSED.

UM, ADDITIONALLY, THE PLACEMENT OF, UH, A HIGH DENSITY APARTMENT ON THIS LAND PRETTY MUCH REMOVES THE OPEN SPACE THERE, WHICH IS USED BY MUCH OF THE COMMUNITY FOR WALKING DOGS AND RECREATIONAL PURPOSES.

UM, PLACING THIS APARTMENT THERE REMOVES THAT CAPABILITY.

ALSO, THERE WAS A, A STUDY DONE THAT PRETTY MUCH WAS DONE IN THE HEIGHT OF THE COVID PER PANDEMIC.

UH, THAT SAID THE TRAFFIC WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE BY ADDING A 200 PLUS UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX, WHICH IF, IF ANYBODY WITH, UM, ANY TYPE OF COMMON SENSE WERE TO COME INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD SEE, THAT IS A HUGE FALLACY.

UH, THE STREET WIDTHS ARE VERY NARROW.

THERE'S LIMITED PARKING.

UM, AS IT SITS RIGHT NOW, JUST THE ADDITIONAL TOWNHOUSES THAT WOULD BE LOCATED BEHIND MY TOWNHOUSE WOULD BE OVERWHELMING FOR THE SIZE OF THE STREET AND THE AREA.

UM, ADDITIONALLY, SUCH A HUGE APARTMENT BUILDING RIGHT NEXT TO SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES AND TOWNHOUSES.

VERONICA MONTE MAYO 6 32 LEE STREET NUMBER PA 2020 DASH ONE ONE SIX ZERO ZERO ZERO SIX THREE.

PHONE NUMBER (210) 363-3275.

UM, MY CONCERNS WITH THE CURRENT HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL PLANS, IT'S THE LARGE, UH, DENSITY OF PEOPLE IN SUCH A SMALL AREA, HOW THAT WILL AFFECT THE FEEL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC SAFETY.

IT WOULD BE NICE IF SOME OF THAT AREA WAS USED AND RETAINED AS PARKS FOR OUR FAMILIES TO ENJOY.

AM I DIALING LIKE 10:00 AM THIS MORNING? IS THERE A CASE NUMBER? NO, IT DOES JUST INCLUDE YOUR, OKAY.

THIS IS MILTON PORTERFIELD.

MY HOME ADDRESS IS 2 2 7.

UH, DUPLICATE.

W OH, THIS IS DARREN MURPHY.

ONE MORE THING I WANTED TO ADD, UH, MY ADDRESS, ANOTHER DUPLICATE.

HELLO, THIS IS DARREN MURPHY.

MY ADDRESS IS, MY NAME IS LATASHA DUNN.

I LIVE AT 6 4 8 LEE STREET.

THE NUMBER IS, UM, PA 2020 DASH 11 6,063.

OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS, THERE HAS BEEN AN INFLUX OF DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS IMPACTED VIEWS, TRAFFIC, AND OUR WAY OF LIFE.

EITHER IN A POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE NEGATIVE WAY.

THE TRAFFIC AND PARKING ISSUES WILL INCREASE AS I'VE WATCHED IT GROW OVER THE YEARS.

AS YOU PRESS FORWARD WITH YOUR DEVELOPMENT, UM, YOU CAN INCLUDE, UH, CAN YOU PLEASE INCLUDE A PLAN TO RE RELOCATE THE CITY OWNED UTILITY POLE THAT PREVENTS ME FROM PARKING ALONG MY FENCE LINE.

ONCE THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE COMMUNITY IS COMPLETED, PARKING NEAR MY HOME WILL BE A CHALLENGE.

THE LITTLE PSEUDO DRIVEWAY IN MY YARD LEADS TO PLUMBING PIPES THAT I'M, UM, GOING TO BE FORCED TO PARK ON ONCE THE, IF THE UTILITY POLE IS NOT RELOCATED.

THANK YOU.

HELLO, MY NAME IS PAUL ZEL.

I'M CALLING IN REGARDS TO AGENDA NUMBER, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 25, AND MY ADDRESS IS 5 2 4 GIO STREET.

UM, I AM ACTUALLY CALLING IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED PLANNED AMENDMENT CHANGE AS A, UH, AS A RESIDENT OF ARTISAN PARK.

UM, I FEEL THAT THIS HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IS ACTUALLY VERY BENEFICIAL FOR US IN A NUMBER OF WAYS.

FIRST, UM, THERE'S ACTUALLY BEEN A BIT OF ATRI EFFECT BY HAVING ALL THIS LAND Y EMPTY BEHIND THE TOWN HOMES FOR SO LONG.

UH, AS WE'VE SEEN DOG POOP, TRASH, UM, ALL THOSE THINGS COLLECT.

WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH ILLICIT FIREWORKS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND GETTING HOUSING FINALLY BUILT NEAR THIS AREA WOULD REALLY HELP SUPPORT, UM, PROVIDE MORE EYES ON THE STREET AND REDUCE SOME OF THAT EFFECT.

SECOND, A LOT OF THE BENEFIT WE GET OUT OF LIVING IN ARTISAN PARK IS OUR PROXIMITY TO SOUTH TOWN AND DOWNTOWN.

AND I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE PE THAT THERE ARE OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO WORK IN SOUTH TOWN AND DOWNTOWN TO BE ABLE TO LIVE NEARBY, UH, CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMMUNITY AND REALLY MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE DO NOT GET PRICED OUT OF BEING ABLE TO WORK IN THESE AREAS.

FINALLY, MY WIFE AND I MOVED HERE TO SAN ANTONIO SOME YEARS AGO BECAUSE WE WERE IN THE SAN FRANCISCO AREA WHERE HOUSING PRICES REACHED AN ABSOLUTELY EXORBITANT

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PRICE BECAUSE OF DECADES OF UNDERBUILDING HOUSING.

I DON'T WANT THIS TO HAPPEN HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.

I WANT IT TO BE POSSIBLE THAT IF MY KID WANTS TO GROW UP AND STAY IN SAN ANTONIO, HE CAN AFFORD TO DO SO.

SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE BUILD THIS HOUSING AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE BUILD THIS HOUSING HERE.

SO YES, PLEASE PUT THIS IN MY BACKYARD.

LET'S GO GO THROUGH WITH BUILDING MORE HOUSING IN NEAR ARTON PARK.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS RONNIE WA.

ADDRESS IS SIX ZERO THREE LEE STREET.

TELEPHONE NUMBER (210) 887-3200.

CASE NUMBER 0 6 3.

IF THIS PROJECT IS BUILT AS CURRENTLY PLANNED, THEN ALL OF YOU COME AND LIVE AMONG US.

OTHERWISE, PLEASE MAKE SURE TO ENGRAVE YOUR NAMES ON EACH HIGH RISE BUILDING, SO IT'LL BE A MONUMENT FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.

HOW TO BUILD A PROTOTYPE OF A GHETTO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS STEVE, STEVE YOUNG, AND I LIVE AT AT 6 0 7 LEE STREET.

I'M HERE TO ADDRESS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 25, THE DEVELOPMENT OF VICTORIA COMMONS.

AS A SAN ANTONIO RESIDENT, I TRULY LOVE TO SEE ALL THE POSITIVE CHANGES HAPPENING AROUND SAN ANTONIO AND I FEEL THAT THE OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE THE VACANT VICTORIA LAND COMMONS LAND IS VERY IMPORTANT TO BOTH DOWNTOWN AND LAVACCA.

AND WHILE I BELIEVE THAT ELLA IS HIRED BY SAHA TO DESIGN THE NEW DEVELOPMENT, HAS TAKEN GREAT STRIDES TO TRY TO MAKE A COMMUNITY.

THERE ARE SOME GAPING OMISSIONS FROM ANYTHING THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO DATE TO THE LAVACCA COMMUNITY.

WHAT WERE ORIGINALLY PLANNED TO BE DENSE TOWN HOMES, WHICH ARE AN APPROPRIATE WAY TO POSITION DENSE MULTI-STORY TOWN HOME PROPERTIES.

30 FEET FROM DENSE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES IS NOW BEING PROPOSED TO BE A MASSIVE ULTRA DENSE FIVE STORY APARTMENT BUILDING 30 FEET FROM SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

FIRSTLY, THE DENSITY AND HEIGHT OF THE APARTMENTS ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IS NOT WHAT THE COMMUNITY BOUGHT AND DEVELOPED INTO.

THERE WAS A CLEAR PLAN LAID OUT WITH UTILITIES ALREADY INSTALLED AND READY FOR THE DENSE MULTI-STORY TOWN HOMES, WHICH WOULD SERVE TO PROVIDE A DENSE YET APPROPRIATE WAY TO POSITION NEW DEVELOPMENT NEXT TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

DESPITE THE ONGOING CONCERNS OF RESIDENTS, WE HAVE SEEN LITTLE MOVEMENT BY SAHA IN ADDRESSING OUR CONCERNS.

HONESTLY, THIS IS ALL ABOUT SAHA TRIED TO BUILD MUCH DENSER TO CHASE NEEDED REVENUE WITHOUT REGARD FOR THE CONTINUITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S OLDEST NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEY HAVE SAID THIS MUCH AT A MEETING WITH LAVACCA.

SECONDLY, LEE STREET RESIDENTS ALREADY SEE A DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF RATHER HIGH-SPEED TRAFFIC ON OUR STREET, MUCH OF WHICH IS ALREADY CUTTING THROUGH TO GO TO EXISTING APARTMENTS ON VICTORIA COMMONS.

WITH THE CITY HAVING DONE NOTHING TO DATE, TO ADDRESS THE HIGH SPEED AND RECKLESS TRAVEL DOWN ON RESIDENTIAL STREET FULL OF BICYCLES, FAMILIES, AND CHILDREN, ADDING A MASSIVE APARTMENT BUILDING JUST FEET AWAY FROM LEE STREET WITH AN OPEN CONNECTING ROAD WILL GUARANTEE, WHICH, UH, WHAT SHOULD BE A QUIET RESIDENTIAL SLOW SPEED STREET WILL BE FILLED WITH SPEEDING CARS AND TRUCKS CUTTING THROUGH TO THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.

WE ALREADY SEE THIS AND IT'S GONNA BE MUCH CLOSER.

THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT MORE DENSITY AND IT'S GONNA MAKE IT WORSE.

THE DEVELOPMENT SHOULD FIND.

GOOD MORNING.

UH, THIS IS FERNANDO ORTEGA.

UH, MY ADDRESS IS 6 1 5 LEE STREET.

UM, I'M CALLING IN OPPOSITION TO, UH, PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST PA 20 21 1 6 0 0 0 6 3.

I'M THE OWNER AND RESIDENCE, UH, OF A PROPERTY ON THE 600 BLOCK OF LEE STREET.

IT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM MOUNT MOUNT ISLAND WALK, UH, FROM THE TRACT OF LAND.

THAT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION.

I BELIEVE THE PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST SHOULD BE DENIED FOR THE REASONS, UH, FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.

SPECIFICS REGARDING THE CONTENT THAT THE PROPOSED THESIS HAVE BEEN INCONSISTENT BETWEEN THE APPLICATION, THE AVAILABLE, UM, INFORMATION THAT THAT WAS AVAILABLE ONLINE.

AND THEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE DETAILS IN THE NOTICES THAT WERE SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SITE.

UH, THE TRACT OF LAND, UH, IT, IT'S PART OF A GREATER DEVELOPMENT AND I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO TAKE THE ENTIRETY OF THE AREA UNDER CONSIDERATION IN A COMPREHENSIVE AND EXPANSIVE VIEW.

I THINK IN ORDER TO GET A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF THE SITE, UH, IN RELATION TO THE SURROUNDINGS, THE CONTEXT, THE DIVERSITY OF SCALE, THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS THAT EXIST.

WHEN ONE LOOKS AT THE ENTIRETY OF THE DEVELOPMENT AREA, IT BECOMES SELF-EVIDENT THAT THE PREVAILING MASTER PLAN THAT IS BEING DEVELOPED HAS FAILED TO MITIGATE THE CONCERNS OF THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS AND CONTINUES TO ATTEMPT TO POST RATIONALIZE A COLLISION OF OBVIOUSLY INCOMPATIBLE SCALES OF DEVELOPMENT.

THE REGIONAL MIXED

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USE, UH, THE PROPOSED REGIONAL MIXED USE IS INCOMPATIBLE AT THIS LOCATION WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL AREA BECAUSE NONE, AGAIN, NONE OF THE STREETS THAT LEAD UP TO IT ARE MAJOR ARTERIALS OR COLLECTOR STREETS.

UH, THOSE BEING REFUGIO, LEE STREET, ILLA PLACE, THE MOUNT LION WALK.

THE SUBSEQUENT TRAFFIC ON THESE RESIDENTIAL SCALE STREETS ARE OF GREAT CONCERN.

THE COLLISION THAT SCALES BETWEEN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL AND THE PLAN MULTI-STORY MULTI-FAMILY BUILDINGS IS UNACCEPTABLY ABRUPT AND AGGRESSIVE.

AGAIN, WHEN ONE LOOKS AT THE OVERALL.

MY NAME IS JEFFREY RNS.

I LIVE AT SIX TWENTY THREE LEE STREET, PHONE NUMBER (832) 443-5713 CASE, 21 DASH 4 7 5 3.

I AM JEFFREY BERNARD, THE PRESIDENT, C E O OF THE METROPOLITAN TRANSIT HAVE OVER 40 YEARS EXPERIENCE IN TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION.

I'D LIKE TO FOCUS MY COMMENTS TODAY ON THE TRAFFICKING PROPOSED IDENTITY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR VICTORIA COURTS HISTORICAL, A NEIGHBORHOOD MERITS PROTECTION OF ITS INHERENT NATURE, A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.

IN FACT, LIVING IN THE LOCK HAS MUCH THE APPEAL OF TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE PAST.

BUT THESE STREET IS A NARROW RESIDENTIAL STREET THAT IS DESIGNED TO CARRY TRAFFIC GENERATED ONLY BY ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL DWELLERS, IN FACT, DWELLERS.

IN FACT, IF CARS ARE PARKED ON BOTH SIDES OF THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM FOR TWO CARS TO PASS EACH OTHER, THE IFICATION OF THIS PROJECT WOULD GENERATE SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC INCREASES.

LEE STREET TWO IS ONE OF TWO OF TRAFFIC OUTLETS FOR THE THOSE THAT WOULD LIVE THERE.

AND IT IS NEITHER DESIGNED OR INTENDED TO SERVE AS A NEIGHBORHOOD COLLECTOR STREET.

THE INCREASED VOLUME OF TRAFFIC WOULD CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THAT PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

THE EXTENSION OF MCMONAGLE THROUGH THE LABOR WOULD HELP MITIGATE THOSE TRAFFIC IMPACTS AND THAT HAD CAPACITY FOR THE TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THE NETS DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE THIS ADDITIONAL OUTLET, WHICH COULD BE DESIGNED TO BE PRIMARY CONNECTOR BETWEEN THE NEW DEVELOPMENT AND LABOR, THE ROADWAY AS SUGGESTED BY THE COMMUNITY.

BUT THE RESPONSE HAS BEEN, IT CONTINUES TO BE UNDER REVIEW.

I STRONGLY URGE THE COMMISSION TO DO NO HARM AND TO HELP PROMOTE A WIN-WIN SCENARIO.

THE COMMUNITY CAN GET MUCH NEEDED HOUSING AND THE NEIGHBOR CAN BE PROTECTED, BUT DO NOT APPROVE THE PLAN UNLESS THE ROADWAY IS INCLUDED.

HI, THIS IS ADRIANA FIVE THREE ONE LEE STREET.

MY PHONE NUMBER IS (505) 818-8348.

I'M CALLING IN TO PROVIDE INPUT TO THE PLANNING OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

UM, I THINK THE CASE NUMBER IS PA 2020 DASH 11 6 0 0 0 5 3.

UM, AND ACCORDING TO THE GUIDELINES, HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USE SHOULD BE LOCATED IN A MANNER THAT DOES NOT ROUTE TRAFFIC THROUGH LOWER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USE.

UM, IT SHOULD BE, I THINK IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THERE'S NO WAY TO ROUTE TRAFFIC INTO THE I 37 ACCESS ROAD.

INSTEAD, WE'LL SEE TRAFFIC ROUTED ALONG LEE STREET AND GIO STREET.

UM, AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THE SOUTH AND NORTH RETENTION POND DEPARTMENTS ARE NOT SUITED FOR A HIGH DENSITY PROJECT BECAUSE OF THAT.

BY PLATING A HIGH DENSITY COMPLEX ON THESE LANDS, IT WILL JUST REMOVE THE DESIGNATED OPEN SPACE.

UH, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GUYS KNOW, BUT MUCH OF THIS IS USED BY THE COMMUNITY FOR WALKING DOGS.

UM, WE EXERCISE IN THERE, DO RECREATIONAL PURPOSES AND MORE.

IN FACT, THERE IS A FREQUENT TIGHTROPE USER WHO SETS UP AND PRACTICES IN THOSE AREAS.

UM, AND DOWNTOWN ALREADY HAS MINIMAL OPEN SPACE.

WHY ARE WE GONNA TAKE MORE AWAY? SAN ANTONIO PLANNING COMMITTEE SHOULD CONSIDER THE IMPACT AND PRESERVE AND ENHANCE DOWNTOWN ITY.

UH, WE SHOULDN'T DESTROY IT FOR THE SAKE OF THE BUSINESS.

IN ADDITION, THEY SHOULD PRIORITIZE PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE OVER AUTOMOBILES, INCLUDING CREATIVE CURB SPACES, YOU KNOW, MANAGEMENT SOLUTIONS.

THERE SHOULD BE A SAFE IN INVITING GATEWAY INTO THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

BY DOING THIS, WE JUST WOULD NOT BE, UH, ALLOWING FOR THAT.

UM, THERE SHOULD BE GREATER OPPORTUNITIES FROM PARKS, PUBLIC SPACE AND RECREATIONAL.

INSTEAD OF GIANT INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THERE ARE PROPOSED INHERENT.

PLEASE TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AND PROVIDE THE COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SAN ANTONIO A BETTER PLACE, NOT ONLY TO GROW, BUT AND LIVE, UH, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE CREATED.

GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS MELISSA DEL.

I LIVE AT 2 2 4 CAROLINA STREET AND I'M SUBMITTING COMMENTS FOR THE HEARING TODAY ON CASE NUMBER SIX, SORRY, NUMBER 0 6 3.

OUR MAIN CONCERNS FOCUS ON ADDING TO THE QUALITY AND LIVABILITY OF LAVACCA WHILE RESPECTING APPROPRIATE LIMITS ON DEVELOPMENT THAT PRESERVE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER AND WORK WITHIN EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE LIMITS.

I SAY TOMORROW'S DEFINITION FOR HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE SAYS QUOTE, HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USAGE SHOULD BE LOCATED IN A MANNER THAT DOES NOT ROUTE TRAFFIC THROUGH LOWER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES, YET THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS LOWER

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DENSITY RESIDENTIAL PRECISELY WHERE TRAFFIC WILL PASS THROUGH TO THIS SITE.

ADDITIONALLY, THE DEFINITION STATES THAT HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL QUOTE MAY BE USED AS A TRANSITIONAL BUFFER BETWEEN LOWER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES AND NONRESIDENTIAL USES.

YET THIS PROPOSAL IS A FLUCTUATION AND NOT A TRANSITION BETWEEN LEVELS OF DENSITY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'M LOOKING FOR ASSURANCE THAT NEW TRAFFIC GENERATED DOES NOT CREATE SAFETY AND ACCESSIBILITY ISSUES FOR THE FAMILIES DIRECTLY SURROUNDING THIS AREA, AS WELL AS FAMILIES ACCESSING LABOR STREET PARKS, THE Y M C A DOG WALKERS, ET CETERA.

I'M ALSO CONCERNED THAT NOT ALL OF THE ACTUAL TRAFFIC ROUTES USED BY RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA HAVE BEEN STUDIED FOR THIS PROJECT.

I'M REFERRING TO THE LENGTH OF LABOR STREET IN CAROLINA AND FLORIDA STREET TO I 37.

AS THIS IS THE PREFERRED ROUTE FOR MUCH OF THE NORTHEAST PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE A HIGH DENSITY ADDITION INTO THE SMALL CORNER OF LAND WITH NO PLANS FOR ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC ROUTES NOR RESOLUTION OF CURRENT TRAFFIC ISSUES ON THE AFFECTED ROUTE.

LASTLY, INCREASING DENSITY WILL INCREASE THE DEMAND FOR LABOR STREET PARK AND I MEAN THE WHOLE PARK, PLAYGROUND, BASEBALL, DIAMOND FIELD AND BASKETBALL COURTS.

THIS PARK IS THE ONLY THING, LIKE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT'S HEAVILY USED, IT'LL BE ASHAMED TO LOSE ANY PORTION OF THAT PARK THAT IS SO INTEGRAL TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I PLEAD THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN ACTIVELY SUPPORTS MAINTAINING 100% OF THE PARK SPACE, ESPECIALLY IF HIGHER DENSITY IS DESIRED.

THOUGH MY INPUT IS TO OPPOSE OR TABLE THIS REQUEST UNTIL THESE IMPORTANT ISSUES CAN BE SUFFICIENTLY ADDRESSED.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 367-2904.

HI, MY NAME IS MARIE FERNANDEZ.

I'M CALLING ON BEHALF OF LUISA STACY 6 43 LAY STREET.

THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO PA 20 20 11 16 0 0 0 6 3.

UH, WE ARE CALLING BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE MAJORLY AFFECTED.

MY MOM IS AN ELDER AND IS NOT FEELING WELL RIGHT NOW.

UH, SO SHE ASKED ME TO SPEAK ON HER BEHALF.

THERE ARE PLENTY OF APARTMENTS GOING UP ALL AROUND THE SAN ANTONIO, UH, DOWNTOWN, AND, UH, THE ONES BEING PLANNED IN LA VACA.

THERE WILL BE A MAJOR PROBLEM BY CONDENSING SO MANY PEOPLE IN SUCH A SMALL AMOUNT OF SPACE WITHOUT ANY PARKS OR RECREATION TO MAKE UP FOR IT.

UH, CURRENTLY HOUSING IN THE AREA IS BEING BUILT, BUT MUCH OF THEM ARE STARTING TO LOOK EMPTY.

PEOPLE ARE BEING FORCED OUT OF THEIR HOMES BECAUSE THEY DO NOT WISH TO LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM DOWNTOWN BUILDINGS.

THE TOWNHOUSES WERE SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT TO AS A BUFFER, AND WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO KEEP THEM AS A BUFFER AT THE LEASE.

NOT TO MENTION THE GREEN STORM.

THE ORIGINAL PLAN HAD TOWN HOMES TO BE BUILT AND THAT PLAN SHOULD REMAIN IN PLACE.

THE LAND INVOLVED IS NOT NEWLY FOUND AND IT SHOULD BE USED FOR WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED AND $3 MILLION SPENT ON THE INTER FRACTURE FUNCTION OF THE AREA TO BE RUN OFF OF THE STORM WATER.

WE NEED OUR STORM WATERS.

THE CHANCE, UH, OF FLOODING COULD INCREASE IF WE GET RID OF ALL OUR STORM STORM WATER AREAS.

UH, DAY.

MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 912-4748.

OKAY.

UH, JAMES MCKNIGHT, DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? I, I DO.

THANK YOU.

UM, ONE THING I FAILED TO MENTION WAS THAT, UH, REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE ENGINEERING FIRM AND, UH, FROM SAHA ARE HERE TO ANSWER, UH, QUESTIONS.

UM, YEAH, AN IMPORTANT PIECE THAT I LEFT OUT WAS THAT THE LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD HAS ACTUALLY ISSUED US A LETTER OF SUPPORT.

UM, THAT IS BECAUSE OF HOW HARD WE HAVE WORKED OVER THE TIME OVER THIS YEAR AND A HALF TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS.

IT DIDN'T, IT DIDN'T COME EASILY, BUT WE DID ABSOLUTELY ADDRESS CONCERNS ALONG THE WAY AND CHANGE THE PLAN ALONG THE WAY.

YOU HEARD A LOT OF RESIDENTS SO FAR OPPOSED TO THIS.

I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD A LOT OF RESIDENTS OPPOSED.

MOST OF THE RESIDENTS THAT WE HERE OPPOSED ARE THOSE THAT ARE CLOSEST TO THE PROJECT ON LEE STREET AND ARTISAN PARK.

NOT THE ONLY ONES, BUT THE MOST ONES BECAUSE THEY'RE MOST AFFECTED.

I GET THAT.

OF COURSE.

THOSE THAT ARE RIGHT THERE ARE THE ONES THAT MOST EFFECTIVE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO SAY, THIS IS, THIS IS AFFECTING ME.

BUT THIS IS A LARGER CONCERN WE ADOPT AS A CITY POLICIES LIKE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ESSAY TOMORROW TO SAY WE'RE LOOKING AT A LARGER PICTURE HERE.

THOSE FOLKS ABSOLUTELY DESERVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE AND WE HAVE ADDRESSED AS MANY AS WE CAN, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA ADDRESS ALL OF 'EM.

WE CAN'T MEET ALL OF THEM BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING AT A LARGER ISSUE HERE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT A PLAN AMENDMENT OR ON A REGIONAL SCALE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT POLICIES THAT AFFECT THE ENTIRE CITY IN TERMS OF INCREASING THE, THE, THE DENSITY AND THE HOUSING THAT WE NEED ADDRESSING.

SA HA'S MISSION, WHICH I THINK WE ALL AGREE, HAS AN IMPORTANT PART OF SAN ANTONIO.

THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

SO DID WE NOT

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MEET ALL OF THEIR NEEDS? OF COURSE NOT.

WE'RE NEVER GONNA MEET ALL THEIR NEEDS FOR SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO NOW SEE A THREE STORY IN THE BACK OF THEIR, THEIR HOME WHERE THERE WASN'T SOMETHING BEFORE.

I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT THE LARGER ISSUE, THE ISSUE THAT'S BEFORE THIS COMMISSION TODAY IS NOT, DID WE MEET LEASE STREETS NEEDS, BUT DID WE MEET THE PLAN AND MINIS? DID WE MEET THE GOALS OF THE SA TOMORROW PLAN AND THE REGIONAL DOWNTOWN PLAN? AND WE HAVE, SO I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME TECHNICAL QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER ABOUT THE RETENTION PONDS.

OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T HAVE, UM, RUNOFF FROM OUR PROPERTY.

SO WE HAVE HANDLED THOSE IN JUST A MORE EFFICIENT WAY.

IT'S BEEN 20 YEARS SINCE THOSE WERE FIRST DESIGNED.

AND THEY AREN'T RETENTION PONDS NOW.

THEY'RE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE JUST LAND.

THEY WERE LABELED AS RETENTION PONDS TO, TO BE, TO DONE SOMETHING WITH LATER, BUT THEY WEREN'T.

AND SO THEY'RE NOT RETENTION PONDS NOW, THEY'RE, IT'S JUST OPEN LAND THAT NOW WE HAVE EFFICIENTLY BEEN ABLE TO DEAL WITH FOR, UM, THE, THE HOUSING THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

UM, TRAFFIC IS OBVIOUSLY A BIG ISSUE THAT PEOPLE BRING UP.

TRAFFIC IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THE MO MAIN ISSUE THAT YOU DISCUSS IN LAND USE, BUT IT IS OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING THAT COMES UP.

UM, BUT I, I WANT DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT THESE ARE NOT SUBURBAN STREETS.

YOU KNOW, I'VE SAID IT AS PART OF MY PRESENTATION, BUT THESE ARE DOWNTOWN STREETS.

URBAN DESIGN DOESN'T CALL FOR THE SAME KIND OF STREET THAT YOU WOULD SEE.

THE THE STREETS ARE NARROWER.

THAT'S BECAUSE YOU WANT THE SIDEWALKS WIDER BECAUSE YOU HAVE PEOPLE WALKING ON.

IT'S BECAUSE YOU WANT THE, THE CARS TO MOVE SLOWER.

AND WHEN YOU INCREASE THE DENSITY, THE CARS, YOU GET MORE CARS ON THE STREET, IT ACTUALLY SLOWS THOSE CARS DOWN.

IT MAKES THEM SAFER, NOT LESS SAFE.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE IN THESE DOWNTOWN AREAS.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE.

SO IN, IN TERMS OF THE, THE, THE TRAFFIC, THE DENSITY THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, HOW WE MEET THE GOALS OF THE OVERALL, THE OVERALL PLAN AND THE EFFORTS THAT WE PUT IN TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THOSE IN THE AREA, WE GOT, UM, LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT BECAUSE OF ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE DID.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONER OREN, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, YES I DO.

SO, UM, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THERE ARE LARGER SIDEWALKS ON MOUNT ZION, ON REFUGIO THAT THESE NEARBY STREETS, HOW WIDE ARE THE SIDEWALKS THERE? THERE? NOT RIGHT NOW.

THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS ON MOUNT.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ON MOUNT ZION? YEAH, ALL THE SURROUNDING STREETS.

HOW, HOW, WHAT KIND OF WIDE SIDE WHAT, HOW WIDE ARE THE SIDEWALKS THERE? NO, I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE A SIDEWALK ON OUR SIDE YET.

OKAY.

SO, UH, ANOTHER, UH, SO ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, SO THIS IS PARK OPEN SPACE.

UH, WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS THAT, THAT, THAT I HAVE TO LOOK AT IS YOU HAVE A HUGE SWAB OF I D Z ZONING THAT, THAT JUST PERCOLATES.

UH, THERE'S COMES WITH THAT.

UH, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR PARKLAND DEDICATION AND THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR ONSITE PARKING FOR YOUR DEVELOPMENTS.

SO WHAT I'M SEEING IS A LARGE AREA THAT THAT HAS EVOLVED WITH MAYBE LIMITED PARKING AND LIMITED PARKLAND SPACE.

AND YOU'RE PROPOSING TO CHANGE ONE OF THE FEW OPEN PARKLAND SPACES THAT THERE IS, WHICH COULD BE POTENTIALLY A PARK TO SERVE THE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTS OVER THERE.

AND, AND YOU'RE WANTING TO REPLACE IT WITH AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF NEW RESIDENTS.

UH, WE HEAR TESTIMONY FROM.

SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR A COMMENT ON THAT.

BUT, BUT PUT IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT, THE SAHA DID WITH A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF IT THAT DID GET DEVELOPED.

UM, IS THERE A POTENTIAL FOR A LARGER GROUP OF PEOPLE TO MOVE IN, IN ADDITION TO WHO YOU'RE BUILDING AND HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT WHAT YOU'RE TAKING AWAY THIS OPEN POTENTIAL PARK THAT, THAT COULD SERVE THAT AREA? I'LL SAY THE FIRST THING ON PARKING IS I, DZ TWO AND THREE DO NOT HAVE, UM, THE IDZ TWO DOESN'T REMOVE THE PARKING REGULATIONS LIKE I D Z USED TO.

SO WE DO HAVE PARKING REGULATIONS, THEY ARE REDUCED, BUT WE STILL HAVE PARKING.

UM, BUT THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A BIG, UH, QUESTION THAT COMES UP IN THESE.

AND WE ARE PROVIDING ADEQUATE PARKING.

WE'VE, UH, THE, THE RESIDENCE AS PART OF THIS.

UM, AND THE DISCUSSIONS ASKED FOR MORE PARKING.

WE PROVIDED MORE OF THAT PARKING.

WE HAVE A PARKING STRUCTURE THAT'S PART OF THE PLAN FOR THE FIVE STORY, UM, APARTMENTS ON THE SOUTH POND.

AS FAR AS THE OPEN SPACE, I CAN SAY THAT IT WAS LABELED AS OPEN SPACE IN THE PLAN BECAUSE THAT'S HOW IT WAS PLATTED.

IT WAS PLATTED AS A, AS A, UM, AS A, UH, DETENTION POND AND A DRAINAGE AREA.

IT WAS NOT PLATTED OR, OR OR PLANNED AS A PARK.

UM, IT WAS, THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE, THE WHEREWITHAL AT THAT TIME TO PLAN FOR THAT TO, TO PLAN FOR THE PROPER DRAINAGE FOR THAT THAN WE DO NOW.

SO I'M, WE'RE NOT REALLY, WE'RE NOT TAKING AWAY PARKLAND.

I MEAN, THAT WAS ALWAYS GOING TO BE, UH, SOME KIND OF DRAINAGE AREA.

UM, UM, OR AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT IT WAS LABELED ORIGINALLY.

BUT IT WASN'T PARKLAND.

I MEAN, WE HAD A PARK THAT WAS PART OF THE, THE LABOR STREET PARK.

WE'RE TRYING TO OPEN UP SOME SPACES IN THE MIDDLE TO HAVE SOME CONNECTIVITY TO OPEN THOSE PLACES.

WELL THE CON THE CONTEXT OF MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT IF, IF YOU DON'T NEED IT FOR DRAINAGE, IF IT WAS NOT AT ATTENTION AND, AND WHATEVER YOU'RE GONNA BUILD DOESN'T NEED IT TO BE DETENTION, UM, THEN WHY CAN'T, UM, THEN WHY ISN'T IT JUST GONNA BE A PARK? UH, AND, AND, AND HOW THAT FIT IN WITH THE I D Z.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT YOUR DEVELOPMENT OF IT BEING I D Z TOO.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE LARGE SWAB OF I D Z BASE THAT'S TO THE NORTHWEST OF YOU.

THAT IS, THAT TAKES AWAY FROM A, A POTENTIAL RATIO OF PARK AND PARKING, UH, TOWARDS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO WE HAVE THIS BIG PICTURE PLAN THAT'S, THAT'S CURRENTLY

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PARK OR OPEN SPACE.

AND OVER TIME THERE IS A LARGER AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS THAT HAVE COME IN OVER THE YEARS, UH, THAT, THAT HAVEN'T HAD TO PROVIDE PARK OR PARKING BECAUSE OF THE I D Z BASE.

MM-HMM.

AND WITH THIS AREA SEEMING TO BE ALWAYS ON THE BACK OF EVERYONE'S MINDS OF BEING A POTENTIAL PARK IN THE BIG PICTURE OF THINGS, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WHEN YOU TAKE THAT AWAY AND REPLACE IT WITH AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, IT'S, IT, IT JUST HAS A, UM, AN OVER CRIPPLING EFFECT TO THE BIG PICTURE.

AND I'M, THAT'S WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT.

I'M SURE WHATEVER IT IS YOU'RE DOING IS GOING TO BE HAVE PARKING AND MEET ALL THE CURRENT CODES AND BE SAFE.

BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE BIG PICTURE WISE, I, I WANT YOU TO COMMENT ON HOW THIS BEING MASTER PLAN IS A, UH, OR FUTURE USE PLAN IS A PARK OPEN SPACE.

WHY ISN'T IT BEING, UH, UTILIZED AS SUCH? WELL, I, I WOULD UM, I'M ASK YOU IF TIM WANTED TO HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT, BUT I'LL JUST SAY THAT YOU KNOW, THAT I BELIEVE THIS IS PART OF SA HA'S MISSION IS TO SEE WHERE ARE THOSE PLACES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA THAT WE CAN, CAN MAXIMIZE OUR HOUSING.

YEAH.

WELL I'M TIM AKAT.

I'M THE REAL ESTATE OFFICER OF SAN ANTONIO HOUSING AUTHORITY AND LEGAL COUNSEL.

GOOD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PARK.

SO, UM, I DUNNO IF YOU CAN FLIP BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SCREEN THAT HAS, UH, THE BIGGER PICTURE OF THE AREA.

UH, BUT IT, BUT WE DO IT.

SO ORIGINALLY THERE WAS NOT A PARK IN THAT AREA.

AND WHAT WE DID WAS, UH, WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO HAVE A PARK.

SO WE TRADED LAND WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

IF YOU GO RIGHT HERE TO ORIGINALLY 100 LABOR ON THE LEFT SIDE.

THAT WAS A LITTLE PARK ACTUALLY ON CESAR CHAVEZ.

SORRY.

OH, THANKS.

I'M NOT GONNA KNOW HOW TO DO THIS.

RED BUTTON.

RED BUTTON.

ALL RIGHT.

SO ORIGINALLY RIGHT HERE WAS THE CITY PARK.

IT WAS REALLY SMALL AND WHAT WE DID WAS WE, YOU KNOW, UH, WANTED TO MAKE THIS, UH, REALLY SUCCESSFUL DEVELOPMENT.

SO YEARS AGO WE TRADED THIS LAND AND WE PAID SOME MONEY ALSO 'CAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT PRICE DIFFERENCE I THINK, UM, FOR THE LABOR STREET PARK.

UM, AND SO WE ACTUALLY DID BUILD A PARK RIGHT HERE.

AND SO WHAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING IS THIS AREA RIGHT HERE.

UH, COMMISSIONER DAVID, THAT'S ALL I CAN SEE THE FIRST NAME.

BUT UH, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS ALL, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY, UM, WAS JUST A DETENTION POND IN BOTH OF THOSE.

AND SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS, UM, WE TYPICALLY DON'T BUILD SOMETHING THIS HIGH-END, UH, AT SAHA.

SO I HIRED OR ACTUALLY DID IT FOR FREE, I ASKED THEM FOR IT TOO.

IS IT URBAN LAND INSTITUTE OR THE U L I? AND SO WE HAD A DISCUSSION WITH A URBAN LAND INSTITUTE AND THEY DECIDED DID SOMETHING CALLED A TECHNICAL ADVISORY PANEL OR CALL IT TAP.

AND SO THEY HAD EXPERTS COME IN FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND THEY LOOKED AT THIS BECAUSE WE TYPICALLY BUILD AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF MOVE ON.

THIS IS A BIGGER DEAL THAN WHAT WE HAD TYPICALLY DONE.

AND SO THEY LOOKED AT IT AND THEY HAD SOME EXPERTS COME IN FROM DALLAS AND OTHER AREAS, CALIFORNIA AND I THINK AUSTIN.

AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD REALLY LOOK AT MORE DENSITY IN THESE AREAS.

AND THAT SAHA HAS MENTIONED ALSO IS THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF WORKFORCE HOUSING DOWNTOWN.

AND SO, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT Y'ALL TALKING ABOUT TODAY, BUT WE ACTUALLY TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW CAN WE BUILD MORE WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE AND WORK DOWNTOWN.

THE BASIC EXPENSE FOR OUR FOLKS THAT LIVE IS, UH, TRANSPORTATION, HOUSING, AND FOOD.

AND SO IF WE CAN BUILD SOME MORE DENSE HOUSING THAT TAKES CARE OF THE TWO OF THE THREE 'CAUSE THEY CAN WALK TO WORK AND THEY ALSO, YOU KNOW, HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO IT'S A GREAT THING.

WE ACTUALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PLANS HAVE CHANGED OVER THE YEARS.

YOU KNOW, ORIGINALLY WE HAD 790 PUBLIC HOUSING RESIDENTS HERE AND THIS HAS GONE WAY DOWN AS FAR AS THE NUMBER, 'CAUSE IT WAS ORIGINALLY IT WAS VICTORIA COURTS IF Y'ALL HAVE BEEN TO SAN ANTONIO HERE FOR A LONG TIME.

AND SO WE WORKED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE REDUCED THE NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, NOT THE DISCUSSION TODAY, BUT WE, BUT WE WORKED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR A LONG TIME.

IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET THE NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT'S, IT IS SEVERAL HUNDRED.

UM, AND WE GOT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO SUPPORT THIS MASTER PLAN.

AND I'M VERY HAPPY WITH HAVING CAN TELLS AS OUR PARTNER BECAUSE THEY'VE DONE THE MNAR PROJECT, BIG DEVELOPMENTS IN AUSTIN, THEY'VE BEEN MIXED USE AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL.

SO WE'RE VERY PROUD OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.

UH, AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY'S SUPPORT ON THIS.

SO, UM, THIS WILL BE A, A REALLY GOOD DEVELOPMENT AT THE END OF THE DAY.

COMMISSIONER GARCIA, DO YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS? ONE, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE ARE JUST LOOKING AT THAT ONE TRIANGLE SPACE 'CAUSE OKAY.

JUST WANNA MAKE SURE OF THAT.

UM, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE CONCESSIONS YOU MADE TO THE LAVACCA ASSOCIATION? YOU SAID THAT YOU WORKED WITH HIM TO GET, UH, A LETTER OF APPROVAL.

RIGHT.

SO WE, UM, ACTUALLY, UH, CHRIS, THERE'S A, A SLIDE UP THERE THAT WE CAN PUT UP THAT, OR A COUPLE OF THEM, IF YOU GO UP, YOU GO, THERE'S, THERE'S THOSE TWO RIGHT THERE.

I'M SORRY.

SO THEY, WE, THEY, THEY TALKED ABOUT HEIGHTS.

SO ORIGINALLY THE PLAN SHOWED, UM, UM, UM, I HEARD ONE OF THE RESIDENTS

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MENTION A, A TALL, UM, APARTMENT COMPLEX, A SEVEN STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT WAS PLANNED FOR IT.

THAT WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL PLAN OF THE, THE ORIGINAL OR THE ADMIN BUILDING THAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL RIGHT NOW.

THAT WAS PLANNED FOR A SEVEN STORY, UM, UNIT.

AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE AS WORKING WITH LAVACA, THEY SAID WE ACTUALLY WANNA KEEP THE ADMIN BUILDING SO NOT HAVE ANYTHING ON THAT SITE AT ALL.

SO THAT 1.2 ACRES WENT FROM SEVEN STORY TO RIGHT NOW NOTHING, UM, HEIGHTS IN THE, THAT ARE DIRECTLY BEHIND THE, UH, MOUNT ZION FOR INSTANCE, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD STARTED WITH A FIVE STORY COMPLEX THAT WAS JUST RIGHT UP AGAINST THE STREET AND WE STEPPED THAT DOWN TO MAKE THE THREE STORY RIGHT UP AGAINST, OR NOT RIGHT UP AGAINST, BUT ON MOUNT ZION WALK SO THAT THE, THE, THE PROXIMITY LOOKS MUCH MORE, UM, LIKE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY ARE EXPECTING HAVING THOSE TOWN HOMES.

UM, THE NUMBER OF UNITS OVERALL WENT WAY DOWN THE, UM, THE LOCATION OF THE, UH, LIKE THE CENTER AREAS THAT WE HAD.

I THINK THE DENSITY IN THAT AREA WAS A LOT LARGER THAN IT WAS.

AND THEN AS, AS WE BROUGHT IT DOWN, WE REALIZED WE ALREADY HAD THE DENSITY WE NEEDED IN THAT CURRENT AREA.

SO WE REMOVED THE Y M C A AREA FROM OUR ZONING ALTOGETHER.

UM, I THINK THE NEXT SLIDE BELOW THAT, UM, THE, THE, THE MIX OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I KNOW THAT'S NOT A RIGHT A PLAN AMENDMENT QUESTION, BUT THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WORKED WITH THEM ABOUT, ABOUT MIXING IT UP AND, AND PUTTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN ONE AREA, MAKING IT MARKET RATE IN ANOTHER.

AND THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, PART OF THIS, THE WHOLE OPERATION OF THIS SITE, OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS ENABLES SAHA TO USE MONEY FROM THIS SITE TO THEN BUILD HOUSING IN OTHER PLACES SO THAT SOME OF THAT MARKET RATE HOUSING IS VERY SUCCESSFUL AT THEN USING IT FOR OTHER PLACES IN SAN ANTONIO.

BUT, UM, THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE MAIN ONES.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO THIS, AND THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING AUTHORITY, CORRECT? YES, SIR.

SO AT SOME POINT IT WILL BE DEVELOPED TO, TO FURTHER THE HOUSING NEEDS OF SAN ANTONIO? YES SIR.

IT'S, IT'S NOT CURRENTLY ESTABLISHED AS A PARK, IT, IT'S JUST UNDEVELOPED AND THEN PEOPLE MAY BE USING IT AS A PARK, BUT IT'S JUST CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

EXCEPT FOR LABOR STREET PARK THAT IS, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU'RE RIGHT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO, SO LABOR STREET PARK, WHICH, WHICH WE HEARD ABOUT EARLIER, THAT'S AN OFFICIAL CORRECT PARK.

OKAY, THAT'S IT FOR MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PROPHET.

THANK YOU.

UH, YEAH, IT'S GOOD TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PASSION.

IT'S A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, DRIVEN THROUGH THERE AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CONCERNS ARE DIFFERENTLY HEARD AND I KNOW ONE OF THE RESIDENTS MENTIONED THE EMAILS.

WE, WE DO LOOK AT THOSE, YOU KNOW, COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONERS.

WE DO TAKE ALL THOSE EMAILS AND VOICEMAILS AND PUBLIC COMMENTS INTO CONSIDERATION.

UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE KIND OF ADDRESSED, UH, THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A HUNDRED PERCENT, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

IS THAT OR IS IT A BLEND? NO, IT'S, UM, IT'S A BLEND.

SO THAT WAS PART OF THE, THE CONCESSIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

OKAY.

AND SO ALL THE TOWN HOMES THERE ON, ON PEYTON PATHS, WE ACTUALLY TAKEN UP THAT STREET WAS GREEN.

LEMME DO THIS THING AGAIN.

THIS IS ALL MARKET RATE.

SO ALL THIS IS ALL MARKET RATE, UM, HOUSING.

RIGHT.

UM, THESE RIGHT HERE, UH, WILL BE, UH, MORE OF A MIXED INCOME HOUSING.

OKAY.

SO NONE OF IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT.

NOW THIS, I GUESS THIS RIGHT HERE IS A 9%, AND SO IT IS, IT IS, IT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THAT ONE COULD BE A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT IT'S A SMALLER DEVELOPMENT.

BUT WE DON'T KNOW FOR CERTAIN HOW THIS IS GONNA BE DEVELOPED.

RIGHT, EXACTLY.

BUT, UM, THIS WILL NOT BE MORE THAN 50% AFFORDABLE.

UM, MORE THAN LIKELY.

UH, I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING WITH CERTAINTY, BUT IT'S, IT'S A MIXED INCOME DEAL, YOU KNOW, FOR, YOU KNOW, I THINK FROM A LAND AND PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE GOALS ARE TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

YOU KNOW, WORKFORCE HOUSING IS CRITICAL.

UM, AND I KNOW THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, DIFFICULT BECAUSE OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND THE, THE POTENTIAL IMPACT THAT THEY FEEL THAT THEY MAY HAVE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, IT JUST SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE FOR, UH, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING THERE.

I KNOW THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT LOSING A PARK, BUT AGAIN, THIS WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE A PARK.

AND I ASSUME LABOR STREET PARK IS STILL THERE.

I DON'T THINK HEMISPHERE PARK IS TOO FAR AWAY AND THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT THERE.

UM, AND THE PARKING, I THINK YOU ADDRESSED THAT THERE'LL BE ONSITE PARKING AS WELL.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS, BUT I THINK I LIKE THE FACT THAT AGAIN, THAT THE COMMUNITIES ARE, ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO TRY TO, TO FIND SOME CONCESSIONS, WHICH IT APPEARS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE AND THAT,

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YOU KNOW, IF THIS DOES GET APPROVED, THAT THE COMMUNITIES CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO, UH, THAT'S REALLY, THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU.

WELL SAID.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER PECK, UH, NO REAL QUESTIONS, BUT, UM, TO ECHO, COMMISSIONER PROPHET, UM, YOU LOOK AT PROPER PLANNING AND, UM, YOU KNOW, GOING HIGH DENSITY, THERE IS A NICE TRANSITION FROM THE HIGHWAY BACK INTO, UH, THE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.

BEYOND THAT, UM, I REALIZE THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S STILL SOME QUESTIONS, UM, REGARDING TRAFFIC AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT THAT ISN'T ON THE TABLE TODAY, AND THOSE ARE QUESTIONS THAT ARE GONNA HAVE TO GET WORKED THROUGH AS THE PROCESS OR AS THE PROJECT MOVES THROUGH THE PROCESS.

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S GONNA HAVE TO BE SOME DISCUSSIONS ON TRAFFIC AND, YOU KNOW, THOSE STUDIES WILL HAVE TO GET REVIEWED AND, AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT ALL THAT'S BEING HANDLED APPROPRIATELY.

AND OF COURSE, THE DRAINAGE, YOU KNOW, YEAH.

YOU'RE REMOVING TO WHAT WAS OR WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY CALLED DRAINAGE AREAS.

SO YOU KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THAT.

AND THAT'LL GET DISCUSSED WHEN, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT PLANS ARE DEVELOPED AND ALL THAT'LL GET VETTED OUT THEN.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.

UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROPER PLANNING TODAY, AND TO ME, PROPER PLANNING IS WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING GOING FROM THE HIGHWAY FRONTAGE TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO SOMETHING LESS BEYOND THAT.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

COMMISSIONER DKI.

YEAH, I WOULD SUGGEST TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS, UH, IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE, UH, TO THAT AREA AND, UH, TO ADDRESS THE COMMENT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

IT'S A LONG PROCESS TO GO AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM AND ALL THE ISSUES THAT WE BEEN HEARD TODAY IN THE PHONE AND ON THE, ON THE COMMENTS.

NO FURTHER QUESTION.

COMMISSIONER GARCIA.

I APPROVE ALSO THAT THE, UM, DEVELOPERS ARE WORKING WITH THE CITIZENS AROUND THERE AND HAVING A LOT OF COMMUNICATIONS WITH 'EM.

UH, THIS IS GOOD BECAUSE VICTORIA COURTS, AS SOMEBODY MENTIONED, WAS A VERY LOW INCOME HOUSING PROJECT THAT WAS THERE FOR MANY YEARS WHEN HEMISPHERE WAS BUILT.

A LOT OF PEOPLE QUESTIONED WHY YOU WOULD PUT THAT INVESTMENT NEXT TO SUCH POOR HOUSING.

THE QUESTION SOME PEOPLE HAD WAS, WAS TURN ALL THAT POOR HOUSING INTO VERY AFFLUENT HOUSING AND, UH, THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

BUT IT'S A REUSE OF PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE IN URBAN AMERICA, AND I THINK WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB OF PLANTING IT WITH THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

UH, I DO ECHO MANY OF, OF, UH, YOUR COMMENTS.

UM, I, I DO WANT TO ADD THAT, UM, OR REITERATE THAT THIS IS OFF OF THE HIGHWAY.

I DID ALSO RECEIVE SOME PERSONAL, UM, OUTREACH FROM SOME FRIENDS AND MY FIRST RESPONSE WAS THAT THIS IS RIGHT OFF THE HIGHWAY.

SO HIGH DENSITY DOES MAKE SENSE.

UM, ESPECIALLY BEING PART OF THE CENTER CITY.

PART OF ME FEELS AS THOUGH IF SAN ANTONIO WERE NOT SUCH A CAR-CENTRIC CITY, THAT THIS WOULD BE MORE OF A NO-BRAINER.

AND SO LOOKING IN THE FUTURE AND THE DIFFERENT PLANS AND THE FOCUSES OF SA TOMORROW, I DO LOOK FORWARD TO THE DAY WHERE SAN ANTONIO IS NOT SO CAR DEPENDENT, ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA, UH, BEING IN THE CENTER CITY AND, AND ENCOURAGING MORE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO, UM, HAVE THINGS CLOSE BY AND, AND UTILIZE THEIR FEET TO GET AROUND VERSUS, UM, A VEHICLE.

THAT ACTUALLY CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS.

EVERY OTHER QUESTION.

UM, WE DID ADDRESS, UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVE SECOND.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PROFIT.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? AND JUST TO CONFIRM, THAT WAS, UM, APPROVAL, CORRECT.

OKAY.

JUST PUTTING UP FOR THE RECORD.

HEARING NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

ROLL CALL PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA? YES.

COMMISSIONER PROFIT? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHRISTOPHER GARCIA? YES.

COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YES.

COMMISSIONER ORIAN? UH, NO.

VICE CHAIR PECK? YES.

MADAM CHAIR GONZALEZ? YES.

MOTION PASSES WITH APPROVAL.

OKAY.

SIX TO ONE.

UH, AND THEN JUST ONE MORE COMMENT IF I MAY.

UM, COMMISSIONERS DID, DID ALREADY ADDRESS IT AND THIS WAS AN ITEM THAT, UM, WE CONTINUED FROM A PREVIOUS MEETING TO ALLOW MORE, UH, COLLABORATION, UH, WITH THE APPLICANT AND, AND THE AREA RESIDENTS.

SO AGAIN, I JUST ASK THAT, UH, SAHA THE APPLICANT AND Y'ALL CONTINUE TO DO SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD, UM, AND, AND CONTINUE WITH THE PROCESS, UH, TO

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ADDRESS A LOT OF THE OTHER CONCERNS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP TODAY.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN.

I, I APPRECIATE AND I'M VERY EXCITED TO SEE SO MUCH COMMUNITY INPUT.

FINAL ITEM ON THE AGENDA TODAY IS, IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SECOND ROLL CALL.

DO WE NEED TO DO CALL? ACTUALLY YOU CAN GO BACK TO VOICE VOTE IF YOU'D LIKE FOR MINUTES.

IT'S UP TO YOU.

CHAIR.

PERFECT.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? HEARING NONE ABSTAIN.

OKAY.

ONE ABSTAIN.

ONE AB ABSTENTION.

TWO.

AB TWO ABSTAINS.

I WASN'T THERE LAST TIME.

SO THAT WOULD BE COMMISSIONER ORIAN AND COMMISSIONER PROFIT.

OKAY.

WE STILL HAVE ENOUGH VOTES.

OKAY.

SO SIMPLE MAJORITY HERE.

WELCOME BACK TO IN-PERSON MEETINGS.

I THINK THIS IS THE LONGEST MEETING I'VE BEEN A PART OF OTHER THAN THE ALAMO SINCE I'VE BEEN A PART OF PLANNING COMMISSIONING.

, YOU KNOW THE ALAMO ONES? IT IS 5 0 1.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADJOURN.

TODAY'S MEETING.

IS THERE.