* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:16] THE SCREEN. OH. OH NO, THAT'S, THAT'S MARCO THREE PIECE. SIR , I'M JUST INTERRUPT YOU THE START. THANK YOU SO MUCH. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY. UM, WE HAVE HAD SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES AS WE TRY TO NAVIGATE THIS HYBRID COMMISSION HEARING. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. UH, IF WE COULD HAVE OUR SPANISH INTERPRETATION SERVICES STATEMENT. GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M GONNA THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. AND I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR ABIDING BY THE MASK MANDATE AS WE TRY TO STAY SAFE, BUT STILL HAVE THIS IMPORTANT WORK GO FORWARD FOR OUR CITY AND ALLOW YOU Y'ALL TO BE HEARD, UH, DURING THIS HEARING. MY NAME IS JOHN [Call to Order] BUSTAMANTE AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT FIVE ZONING COMMISSIONER. I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION. IN THE SESSION, UH, I LIKE TO DO ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT. COMMISSIONER BARROS, UH, MARCO BARROS, REPRESENTING DISTRICT NINE, MARK WHITE. DISTRICT 10. SUMMER GRADE HOUSE DISTRICT ONE. I'M JOHN BUSTA, DISTRICT FIVE, ROBS DISTRICT SEVEN. LILLIAN JONES, DISTRICT TWO. KEN HUEY, DISTRICT SIX. UH, COMMISSIONER MCGEE, JOY MCGEE, DISTRICT THREE. COMMISSIONER O'NEAL, FRANCINE ROMERO, DISTRICT DATE AND COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. GAIL MCDANIEL, MAYOR. OKAY, DO WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT? A QUORUM IS PRESENT. THANK YOU. WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. UH, PRIOR TO COMMENCING OUR HEARING, I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE STAFF IF YOU WOULD. SO BEFORE WE BEGIN, PLEASE MAKE SURE TO TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF. THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION. YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE [00:05:01] CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER. STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST. PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN EX INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION. FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THE REQUEST FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING. YOU WILL BE CALLED AN ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION. YOU WILL HEAR A BEEP ONCE YOU'RE, ONCE YOUR THREE MINUTES ARE UP. FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES. THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK. THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS. THANK YOU CHAIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. STAFF, IF WE COULD GO OVER OUR POST, EXCUSE ME, STAFF IF WE COULD GO OVER OUR POSTPONED OR WITHDRAWN ITEMS. YES SIR. THE ITEMS THAT ARE POSTPONED AT TODAY'S MEETING ARE ITEMS NUMBER ONE AND TWO. ITEM NUMBER ONE IS ZONING CASE 1 5 4 LOCATED AT 2 0 3 HOSSACK AVENUE. AND ITEM NUMBER TWO IS ZONING CASE 1 7 2 CD LO LOCATED IN THE 14,000 BLOCK OF NACODOCHES ROAD. THESE ITEMS ARE POSTPONED, MEANING THAT THE PROCESS WILL START OVER. THEY WILL RECEIVE REPUBLICATION AND REIFICATION, WHICH MEANS THAT ANYONE THAT MAY BE IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY, UM, THIS ITEM WILL NOT BE HEARD AND NEW NOTICE WILL BE SENT WHEN THE ITEM IS READY TO CONTINUE. MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU. AND [Items 6, 8, 9, 13, 15, 16, 18, 22, & 24 - 26] STAFF, IF YOU COULD, UM, GO OVER THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON COMBINED HEARING. NUMBER ONE, THE CONSENT AGENDA. THE COMBINED HEARING ITEMS ARE ITEM 6 1 7 3 IN THE THOUSAND BLOCK OF NORTH HUNT LANE. ITEM EIGHT, ENDING 1 7 5 AT 1212 NORTH GIVER STREET. ITEM NINE ENDING 1 7 6 HL AT 4 0 4 CALHOUN STREET. ITEM 13 ENDING 1 8 0 AT 13 0 0 2 JONES MALTSBERGER ROAD. ITEM 15 ENDING 1 8 3 AT 2 4 2 CHANNING AVENUE. ITEM 16 ENDING 1 8 5 AT 35 0 2 AND 35 0 6 MARTIN LUTHER KING DRIVE. ITEM 18 WAS MOVED TO INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION FOR SPEAKERS. ITEM NUMBER 22 ENDING AT IN 1 93 CD AT FIVE 19 B STREET. ITEM 24 ENDING 1 95 AT 80 19 INTERSTATE 35 SOUTH ITEM 25 ENDING 1 9 6 IN THE 4 5400 BLOCK OF PRESIDIO PARKWAY. AND ITEM 26 ENDING IN 1 9 7 AT 1403. RAL DRIVE. MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE MOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA TO THE INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION AGENDA TO MY LEFT TO MY RIGHT REMOTE. ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE STAFF, IF WE COULD READ THE INDIVID THE ITEMS ON COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE INTO THE RECORD PLEASE. ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE GC TWO AND C THREE TO M X D, GC TWO AND M X D ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED IN THE THOUSAND BLOCK OF NORTH HUNT LANE, THERE WERE 17 NOTICES MAILED. ONE WAS RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM MF 33 TO I DZ TWO WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO IN A MEETING FACILITY, PARTY, HOUSE OR EVENT HULL LOCATED AT 1212 NORTH BEAVER STREET. THERE WERE 34 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. A PETITION IN SUPPORT WITH FIVE SIGNATURES WAS RECEIVED AND THE OVERLAYS WILL RE REMAIN THE SAME ON THIS ITEM. ITEM NUMBER NINE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO R SIX HL. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 4 0 4 CALHOUN STREET, THERE WERE 44 NOTICES MAILED NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR TO RECEIVED AN OPPOSITION AND NO RESPONSE FROM GOVERNMENT HILL ALLIANCE. ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM PUD OH TWO A H O D, THE C TWO A H O D LOCATED AT 1 3 0 0 2 JONES BERGER ROAD. THERE WERE 48 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 15 IS A REQUEST [00:10:01] TO REZONE FROM C TWO A H O D TO R FOUR A H O D LOCATED AT 2 42 CHANNING AVENUE. THERE WERE 25 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM HIGHLAND PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO NA AND C THREE AND A TO R FOUR. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 35 0 2 AND 35 0 6 MARTIN LUTHER KING DRIVE. THERE WERE 24 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND NO RESPONSE FROM WHEATLEY HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 22 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO R SIX CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A DUPLEX. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT FIVE 19 B STREET THERE WERE 10 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM GOVERNMENT HILL ALLIANCE. ITEM NUMBER 24 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I TWO TO C THREE NA. THAT IS AN AMENDMENT MADE BY THE APPLICANT TO REZONE FROM I TWO TO C THREE NA ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 80 19 INTERSTATE 35 SOUTH. THERE WERE 22 NOTICES MAILED. ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE IN OPPOSITION AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ALL THE, THOSE OVERLAYS WILL ALSO REMAIN THE SAME AND THE APPLICANT WILL CONFIRM AT THE PODIUM. ITEM NUMBER 25 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE TO MF 33. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED IN THE 5,400 BLOCK OF PRESIDIO PARKWAY, THERE WERE NINE NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND FINALLY, ITEM NUMBER 26 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO AND A C D SS WITH A CONDITIONAL USE AND SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A MANY STORAGE FACILITY EXCEEDING 2.5 ACRES TO PUT M F 18 ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME AND WITH A DECREASED PERIMETER SETBACK OF 10 FEET. LOCATED AT 1403 RAL DRIVE THERE WERE 23 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION. AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH. IF THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS PRESENT FOR ITEM NUMBER 24, MR. KILLEN, IF YOU WOULD AMEND FROM THE PODIUM PLEASE. THANK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. KILLEN. ALRIGHT. THE CONSENT AGENDA HAS BEEN READ INTO THE RECORD. THE APPLICANT HAS AMENDED ITEM NUMBER 24. IS THERE A MOTION MR. CHAIR? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ITEMS NUMBER 6 8 9 13 15 16, 22, 24, 25 AND 26. IS THERE A SECOND? A SECOND. THE MOTION. ALRIGHT. UH, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE ITEMS AS READ INTO THE RECORD. THERE IS A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARROS. UH, ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER BOTTLES? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. CHAIR BUS. AYE. MOTION PASSES. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE PRESENT ONLY FOR ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF ON COMBINED HEARING, NUMBER ONE, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, UH, UH, VACATE YOUR SEAT SO THAT OTHERS CAN COME IN AND BE HERE FOR THE ITEMS THAT THEY'RE HERE FOR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IF YOU HAVE OTHER ITEMS YOU WANT TO HEAR, STICK AROUND. IT'S GONNA BE VERY EXCITING. UM, ALRIGHT. NOW IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO COMBINED HEARING NUMBER TWO STAFF. YES, SIR. AND I'M GONNA TAKE THE ITEM WITH THE SPEAKER FIRST. [20. ZONING CASE Z202110700189 (Council District 7): A request for a change in zoning from "R6“ Residential SingleFamily District to "MF18" MultiFamily District on Lot P331A, NCB 15479, located at 9100 block of Old Tezel Road. Staff recommends Approval, pending Plan Amendment. (Associated Plan Amendment PA202111600058) (Catherine Hernandez, Development Services Administrator, 2102075085, catherine.hernandez@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)] THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 20, A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO MF 18. LOCATED IN THE 9,100 BLOCK OF OLD TE ROAD, THERE WERE 53 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION. AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. HOWEVER, THE NEARBY NORTHWEST NEIGHBORHOOD ALLIANCE IS OPPOSED. THIS ITEM IS SEEKING A CONTINUANCE TO THE SEPTEMBER 7TH MEETING. AND WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER IN THE AUDIENCE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, MR. CHAIR. OKAY. UM, IF [00:15:01] WE COULD HAVE THOMAS, UH, I'M, I DON'T WANNA BUTCHER YOUR LAST NAME. MR. THOMAS. COME FORWARD. SIR, IF YOU WOULD HELP US NOT BUTCHER YOUR LAST NAME AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE. THOMAS EK 95 0 2 AUTUMN SHADOWS. THANK YOU MR. EK. IF YOU WOULD TELL US OUR, OUR PROPERTY BUTS DIRECTLY ON THE CORNER IN FRONT OF THE PROPOSED, UH, REZONING LAND. OUR MAIN CONCERN IS EZL IS A VERY BUSY TWO-LANE, UH, ROAD THAT THE E M S AND FIRE DEPARTMENT ALL USED TO GET TO ALL THE ACCIDENTS ON BROWN IN 1604. AND I UNDERSTAND HE WANTS TO DO A SINGLE STORY, MULTI-FAMILY. UH, HE DIDN'T CALL IT A NURSING HOME, BUT BASICALLY CONVALESCENT TYPE HOME. AND WE'RE JUST CONCERNED WITH ALL THE ADDED TRAFFIC AND POSSIBLE AMBULANCES AND AND SO ON. THANK YOU MR. FURICH. UH, WOULD YOU JUST HANG ON FOR ONE SECOND? CASE, ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU? COMMISSIONERS? TO MY LEFT QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS REMOTE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. EKK. THANK YOU. UH, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, SIR. THANK YOU. THIS IS A DISTRICT SEVEN CASE COMMISSIONER SIPES. YES. AND I KNOW THAT, UM, THE DISTRICT SEVEN IS STAFF IS, UH, REACHING OUT TO SET A MEETING WITH THE BRONZE STATION, WEST ASSOCIATION. NOW I UNDERSTAND MR. ACK HERE IN, IS THAT OAK GROVE? YES. OAK GROVE. OH, GROVE CROSS GROVE. YES. YES. SO, UM, IF YOU WOULD TALK TO THE MAN IN THE BLUE SHIRT THAT'S STANDING UP, THEN HE CAN, HE CAN HELP YOU WITH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ATTENDING THAT MEETING AS WELL. BUT, UM, SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE TO, UH, SEPTEMBER 7TH FOR ITEM NUMBER 20. OKAY. THERE IS A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER 7TH. SECOND BY DR. JONES. ALRIGHT, UM, STAFF ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. MOTION PASSES. 10 TO ZERO. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, STAFF, IF WE CAN GO ON WITH THE REMAINDER OF COMBINED HEARING NUMBER TWO AS ONE ITEM. AS I BELIEVE THEY, THEY'RE ALL FOR CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER 7TH. WE HAVE ONE ITEM THAT IS NOT SO I WILL READ THAT ONE INTO THE RECORD FIRST AND THEN WE'LL PROCEED FROM THERE. PERFECT. THANK YOU. [3. (Continued from 07/20/2021) ZONING CASE Z202110700114 (Council District 2): A request for a change in zoning from "RM4 MLOD3 MLR2 AHOD" Residential Mixed Martindale Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District and "R5 MLOD3 MLR2 AHOD" Residential Single Family Martindale Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District and "RM4 AHOD" Residential Mixed Airport Hazard Overlay District and "R5 AHOD" Residential Single Family Airport Hazard Overlay District to "MHP MLOD3 MLR2 AHOD" Manufactured Home Park Martindale Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District and "MHP AHOD" Manufactured Home Park Airport Hazard Overlay District on 2.9479 acres out of NCB 12180, located at 4618 Webbles Street. Staff recommends Approval. (Catherine Hernandez, DSD Administrator, 2102075085, catherine.hernandez@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)] SO ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM RMM FOUR AND R FIVE WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME TO M H P WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME, LOCATED AT 46 18 WEIL STREET. THIS ITEM IS SEEKING A CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER THE 21ST. MR. CHAIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS IS A DISTRICT TWO CASE, SO DR. JONES? YES. THE APPLICANT HAS ASKED TO HAVE MORE TIME TO, UH, MEET WITH THE, UH, NEIGHBORS. AND SO I AM, UM, UM, WILL LET MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS IF THEY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? SEEING NONE. ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? SEEING NONE, UH, REMOTE. ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JONES. UH, MOTION PLEASE. UH, I MOVE, WE, UH, CONTINUE THIS CASE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 21ST. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? WHO SECOND? OKAY, I'M GONNA GO WITH COMMISSIONER. WE ALRIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER 21ST WITH THE SECOND, UH, BY DR. JONES WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. WE, UM, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR BUS ANTE. UH, MOTION PASSES. 10 TO ZERO. OKAY. THANK YOU [00:20:01] SO MUCH. UM, [Items 10, 12, 14, 17, 19, & 21] STAFF, IF WE COULD NOW HAVE THE REMAINING ITEMS ON THE COMBINED HEARING. NUMBER TWO, READ INTO THE RECORD PLEASE. ALRIGHT. ALL OF THESE ITEMS ARE FOR CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER 7TH. ITEM NUMBER 10 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I ONE TO C TWO S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A HOTEL. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 10 20 NOGO LIDO STREET. THERE WERE 32 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM COLIN GARDEN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OTHER THAN THE REQUEST FOR A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE. ITEM NUMBER 12 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX A H O D TO RMM. FIVE A H O D LOCATED AT 5 0 6 EAST ASHBY PLACE. THERE WERE 33 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND TOBIN HILL. ALSO ASKED FOR A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE ON THIS ITEM. ITEM 14 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C ONE, C TWO, C TWO AND A C TWO AND A C D WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR AN AUTO BODY REPAIR AND PAINT CENTER C THREE R AND C THREE R TO M F 18 LOCATED AT 64 60 BABCOCK ROAD. THERE WERE 33 NOTICES MAILED AND, AND RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND NO RESPONSE FROM TANGLEWOOD RIDGE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 17 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO R SIX HL LOCATED AT 92 90 LESLIE ROAD. THERE WERE NINE NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 19 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM RE TO MF 33. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 1 9 3 8 9 BABCOCK ROAD. THERE WERE EIGHT NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND ITEM 21 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE R H L TO I D Z H L WITH USES PERMITTED IN C ONE LOCATED AT 26 0 2 NORTH FLORES STREET. THERE WERE 31 NOTICES MAILED ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, EIGHT IN OPPOSITION. ALTA VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED. AND THERE WERE TWO NOTICES OUTSIDE, 200 FEET OPPOSED. AND BEACON HILL IS OPPOSED. MR. CHAIR, THIS IS A ITEMS FOR CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER THE SEVENTH. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. IS THERE A MOTION MR. CHAIR? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCES TO SEPTEMBER 7TH FOR THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER 10 12 14 17, 19 AND 21. THERE IS A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE OF SEPTEMBER 7TH FOR THE ITEMS THAT'S READ. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. THE MOTION CHAIRMAN. OKAY. UM, WHO WAS THAT? WHERE DO WE GET S BUTS? OKAY. GOOD ENOUGH. UH, THERE WAS A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE FOR THE ITEMS AS READ INTO THE RECORD. UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARROS. UH, STAFF ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. CHAIR BUSTAMANTE. AYE. MOTION PASSES. 10 TO ZERO. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH EVERYONE. IF YOU ARE PRESENT FOR THOSE ITEMS ON COMBINED HEARING NUMBER TWO AND THOSE ITEMS ALONE, UH, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE VACATE YOUR SEAT SO OTHER PEOPLE CAN ADDRESS THE ITEMS THAT THEY ARE HERE TO ADDRESS. UM, WE'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING [4. ZONING CASE Z202010700223 (Council District 1): Ordinance amending the Zoning District Boundary from "IDZ AHOD" Infill Development Zone Airport Hazard Overlay District with various uses permitted to "IDZ2 AHOD“ Medium Intensity Infill Development Zone Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted for 18.5 dwelling units per acre on 4.408 acres out of NCB 886, NCB 887, and NCB 3591 and “IDZ3 AHOD” High Intensity Infill Development Zone Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted for 65 dwelling units per acre on 8.719 acres out of NCB 886, NCB 887, and NCB 3591, generally located at the intersection of Mt. Zion Walk and IH 37 South. Staff recommends Approval, pending Plan Amendment. (Associated Plan Amendment PA202011600063) (Lorianne Thennes, Senior Planner, 2102077945, lorianne.thennes@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department) (Part 1 of 2)] A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER HERE. OKAY. SO, UH, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT THE TIME IS ONE 30 AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS ACCUSING HERSELF. UM, MS. NEWMAN, YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE A MEDICAL APPOINTMENT, SO WE WANNA ALLOW YOU THAT OPPORTUNITY NOW TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN GET TO THAT APPOINTMENT. THANK YOU. SO, MS. NEWMAN, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME UP, INTRODUCE YOURSELF, GIVE YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US WHAT YOU THINK OF THAT ITEM. NUMBER FOUR. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY AND THE FLEXIBILITY IN ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK AND HAVE MY VOICE HEARD. MY NAME IS MARCY NEWMAN. I LIVE AT 3 0 2 CALLAHAN AVENUE IN THE LAVACCA HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND I AM SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO AT LEAST A PORTION OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR. UH, CATALYST AND SAHA HAVE QUITE FRANKLY, VIOLATED EVERY COMMITMENT THEY MADE TO THE LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AS FAR AS THE PROPERTY IS CONCERNED. AT VICTORIA COMMONS, THIS AREA WAS SET UP IN THE PLAN AS MEDIUM DESSI, MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WITH PARK AND OPEN SPACE. AND THEY ARE NOW PROPOSING TO REMOVE THAT MEDIUM [00:25:01] DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND PARK AND OPEN SPACE WITH HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THEY ALSO REMOVED FROM IT THE Y M C A PROPERTY, WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY PART OF THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH IN EFFECT SHORTENED THE DISTANCE FOR THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION. SO NONE OF THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD WAS NOTIFIED OF A PROJECT OF THIS SCOPE AND SCALE THAT WILL IMPACT THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO AS FAR AS ANYTHING THAT INCREASES THE NEED FOR OFF STREET PARKING IN THE DEVELOPMENT, WE COMPLETELY SUPPORT THAT. BUT GIVEN WHAT WENT ON IS GOING ON AT THE LABOR STREET HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WE ARE ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO ANYTHING THAT INCREASES HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND REDUCES PARK AND OPEN SPACE BECAUSE IT PLACES A BURDEN ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE ONE WAY, IN ONE WAY OUT OF THIS AREA THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE SIMPLY CANNOT HANDLE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOUR OPPORTUNITY. THANK, THANK YOU OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. NEWMAN, IF YOU WOULD HANG AROUND FOR JUST ONE SECOND IN CASE ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS. TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT COMMISSIONERS REMOTE. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. NEWMAN. THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. WISH BEST OF LUCK AND THE BEST OF HEALTH. ALRIGHT, STAFF, IF WE COULD NOW [23. ZONING CASE Z202110700194 CD (Council District 2): A request for a change in zoning from "R4 CD NCD6" Residential SingleFamily Mahncke Park Neighborhood Conservation District with a Conditional Use for a Food Service Establishment without cover charge 3 or more days per week to "R4 CD NCD6" Residential SingleFamily Mahncke Park Neighborhood Conservation District with a Conditional Use for a Food Service Establishment without cover charge 3 or more days per week (to amend conditions) on Lot 21, Block 1, NCB 6227, located at 118 Davis Court. Staff recommends Approval, with Conditions. (Mirko Maravi, Senior Planner (210) 2070107, mirko.maravi@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)] CONTINUE IN OUR NORMAL COURSE, UM, WITH THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING, WHICH I BELIEVE IS ITEM NUMBER 23. AND LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT THE TIME IS 1 32 AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS RETURNED TO THE HEARING. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. ITEM NUMBER 23 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FOUR CD AND C D SIX TO R FOUR CD AND C D SIX WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOOD SERVICE WITHOUT COVER CHARGE THREE OR MORE DAYS A WEEK. THIS IS LOCATED AT ONE 18 DAVIS COURT. THERE WERE 22 NOTICES MAILED. THREE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND MANKEY PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. THIS ITEM IS COMING BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR A SITE, UH, FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THEIR CONDITIONAL USE IN ORDER TO INCLUDE SUNDAY OPERATIONAL HOURS. OTHERWISE, THE REQUEST IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS IT WAS WHEN THEY TOOK IT UP, UM, BACK IN 2014. MR. CHAIR. OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, IS THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PRESENT FOR ITEM NUMBER 23? IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US WHY YOU'RE SEEKING THIS ZONING CHANGE. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS MITSUKO RAMOS WITH GOVERNMENT RELATIONS GROUP OF TEXAS. I REPRESENT HERRERO PROPERTIES, L L C, WHICH OWNS COMMONWEALTH COFFEE AND BAKERY, LOCATED AT ONE 18 DAVIS COURT. UM, THEY OWN THE, UH, COFFEE HOUSE IN MANKEY PARK. SIDE TWO, PLEASE. UH, YOU COULD SEE THERE THEY DID A LOT OF RENOVATIONS TO, UH, PROVIDE SOME OPEN SPACE FOR THE, UH, PATRONS TO HAVE SOME SOCIAL DISTANCING OUTSIDE. AND NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UH, AGAIN, AS, UH, STAFF HAD EXPLAINED, UH, THEY HAD THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE IN 2014 APPROVED TO ALLOW THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE, UM, OPERATIONS THAT DID NOT SPECIFICALLY PERMIT, UM, OPERATIONS ON SUNDAY. SO THIS PARTICULAR ZONING CASE WILL AMEND THE CONDITIONS TO INCLUDE THAT SPECIFIC LANGUAGE TO ALLOW BUSINESS OPERATIONS BETWEEN 8:00 AM AND 4:00 PM ON SUNDAYS. UM, AT THAT TIME IN 2014, JUST A SIDE NOTE, THERE WERE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS, UH, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT RESTRICTED THE OPERATIONS, BUT THAT HAS SINCE BEEN AMENDED. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UH, THAT'S JUST OUR SITE PLAN TO SHOW THE LOCATION, WHICH IS, UM, REALLY CLOSE TO BROADWAY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE ZONING MAP, WHICH SHOWS THE DISTANCE TO THE, THE RESIDENTS AND THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UH, WE WORKED REALLY CLOSELY WITH MANKEY PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THEIR LAND USE COMMITTEE. UM, IT'S BEEN A REAL PLEASURE TO WORK WITH THEM. I KNOW THAT, UM, SOMETIMES, UM, PEOPLE STATE THAT IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO WORK WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. UM, BUT, UM, I WORK A LOT WITH MANY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. AND I JUST WANNA SAY THAT IF ANYBODY THINKS ABOUT FILING A ZONING CASE, I I STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT THEY WORK WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS [00:30:01] AHEAD OF TIME BECAUSE MY EXPERIENCES IS THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN REALLY GREAT TO WORK WITH IF YOU JUST MEET WITH THEM AHEAD OF TIME. AND MANKEY PARK HAS BEEN EXCEPTIONAL. SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT A SHOUT OUT THERE TO THEIR, UM, LAND USE COMMITTEE AND THE PRESIDENT TAYLOR WATSON. AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL FOR THIS SONY CASE. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE MANAGER OF COMMONWEALTH MARCEL ORANA HERE. IF, IF YOU, UH, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE COFFEE SHOP. THANK YOU MS. RAMOS. THANK YOU. UM, STAFF, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? YES, WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER. DEREK ELLIOT. OKAY, MR. ELLIOT. AND LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, MR. ELLIOT, IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M DEREK ELLIOT. I LIVE AT 1 5 0 DAVIS COURT. HELLO, YOU AGAIN. UM, I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF, OF THE MEASURE. UH, BUT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN AN OVERSIGHT. THERE'S FIVE CONDITIONS AND I WANT THEM RECORDED BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SUPPORTING. SO CAN WE GO OVER THOSE AGAIN? ARE THEY RECORDED SOMEWHERE? THANK YOU, MR. ELLIOTT. I BELIEVE THEY ARE PART OF THE PACKAGE THAT WAS PRESENTED BY STAFF. UM, BUT THE COMMISSIONER SHOULD READ THOSE IN THERE. THEY ARE MR. ELLIOTT. OKAY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCREEN TO YOUR LEFT. OH, NOW THEY'RE SHIFTING AWAY FROM US. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, YEAH, PROVIDED THESE ARE, THESE ARE, UH, MET, UH, WE'RE FINE WITH THIS. UM, THERE ARE NO EXTERIOR LIGHTING DISPLAYS THAT WE, WE ARE AWARE OF. SO WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY ABOUT THAT. AND, NO, NO, UH, SORRY. NAMEPLATE, UH, FOR B, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION FEATURES ARE IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT WE WANT. UH, C WE'RE, WE'RE OKAY WITH THE, UH, THE SUNDAY OPENING, WHICH I THINK WAS, WAS WHAT PROMPTED THIS. UH, THE OUTDOOR SPEAKERS STILL NEED TO BE REMOVED, BUT PROVIDED THAT'S DONE, UH, WE'LL GO FORWARD AND, AND SUPPORT THIS DURING THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. AND OF COURSE, UH, NO ISSUES WITH THE LIGHT POLLUTION AT THE MOMENT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MR. ELLIOTT. IF YOU WOULD HANG AROUND FOR ONE SECOND. UH, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? TO MY LEFT, TO MY RIGHT? UH, YES. COMMISSIONER O. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. UM, MR. ELLIOT? I CAN'T REALLY SEE THE PODIUM. I HOPE HE'S STILL THERE. I'M STILL HERE. OKAY. UM, I'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME AND THIS HAS COME BEFORE US TWICE. AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS DEAD SET AGAINST SUNDAY HOURS. SO CAN YOU GIMME A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON WHAT HAPPENED? IS IT JUST THAT THE PEOPLE ARE, ARE GONE NOW? UM, DO YOU REMEMBER THAT STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE SUNDAY ARABS? UM, YES. WELL, WHEN THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY GOING BACK, UH, ABOUT SIX YEARS, SHORTLY BEFORE WE MOVED INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, THE SAME PEOPLE ARE, ARE ON THE STREET. UH, FOR THE MOST PART. UH, THE CHANGE OF HEART WAS, UM, SOME OUTREACH AS, AS MS. ROMANS MENTIONED TO US. AND WE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE CONDITIONS AND JUST, UM, ABIDING BY THE CONDITIONS BECAUSE WHEN THE, UH, THE FIRST, UH, CHANGES WERE MADE, THERE WERE, THERE WERE CONDITIONS, BUT THEY WEREN'T REALLY, UM, UH, ABIDED BY. AND WE, THE COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REALLY HAD NO RECOURSE, UH, OTHER THAN TRYING TO SUE AND, AND, UH, UH, TAKE THIS UP OURSELVES. UM, OR NOT SUE. WE, WE CERTAINLY DIDN'T WANNA GO THERE, BUT, BUT TRYING TO GET THIS DONE OURSELVES AND, AND THAT WASN'T DONE. SO IT WAS AS OF LATE, UH, I THINK THE, UH, THE EFFORTS OF THE CURRENT OWNER AND, AND MR. RAMOS, UH, TALKING TO US. SO, UM, THAT'S THE CHANGE. WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. UM, FOR A BROADER ASPECT, BECAUSE IT'S A VERY SMALL STREET, IT IS LESS THAN A QUARTER MILE LONG. UH, I I WANNA SAY LESS THAN 0.2 MILES LONG. UM, BUT IT'S STILL A, A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE'RE CONCERNED WITH THE ENCROACHMENT. UM, SO WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN, UM, VERY WARY OF, OF ANY CHANGES TO WHAT HAPPENS ON THE STREET BECAUSE IT'S A DEFACTO PASS THROUGH OF A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES. THANK YOU, SIR. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? MS. ROME? UH, COMMISSIONER ROMERO? OKAY. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UH, QUESTION ALSO FOR THE GENTLEMAN AT THE PODIUM, IF HE'S STILL THERE. SO I JUST HEARD YOU SAY THAT YOU ACTUALLY HAD, UM, I GUESS SOME CONCERNS OR SOME ISSUES OUT OF THIS, UM, ESTABLISHMENT, EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS A RESTRICTION FROM SERVICES ON SUNDAY. ARE, ARE, AM I, DO I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY WERE OPEN FOR BUSINESS, UH, IN VIOLATION OF WHAT THE CONDITIONS WERE SET? NO, THEY WEREN'T. THE, THE SUNDAY ISSUE WAS NOT, UH, WAS THE SUNDAY, UH, ITEM WAS NOT AN ISSUE PREVIOUSLY. THAT WASN'T, UH, THAT WASN'T PART OF ANY AGREEMENT OR A VIOLATION THAT I'M AWARE OF. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO I MISUNDERSTOOD YOU ON THAT. SO WHAT WERE SOME OF THE ISSUES THEN? YOU ENCOUNTERED? UH, SOME OF THE, UH, SOME OF THE SCREENING. UM, WE ALSO ASKED THEM TO BE MORE, MORE, UM, UH, RESPECTFUL OF, UH, THE NEIGHBORS, THE PARKING SITUATION. UH, SOME PARKING SIGNS WERE REMOVED, UM, BECAUSE [00:35:01] THE STREET HAD A VERY RESTRICTED PARKING ON IT FOR A GOOD REASON. UM, AND THE PARKING SIGNS WERE NOT REMOVED, OR EXCUSE ME, WERE REMOVED WITHOUT, UH, WITHOUT ANY OF OUR KNOWLEDGE. UH, THEY JUST DISAPPEARED ONE DAY. UH, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS, SO. OKAY. THANK YOU. BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT THAT RESOLVED. YOU'RE WELCOME. RIGHT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UM, AND MR. ELLIOT, ONE QUESTION FROM ME. YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE, I BELIEVE THE LAND USE COMMITTEE FOR NO, SIR. I, I'M JUST A RESIDENT OF THE STREET AND I'M A MEMBER OF THE, UH, THE MANKEY PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. ELLIOT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UM, MR. RAMOS, UH, SORRY, STAFF. IS THERE ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? NO, SIR. ANYONE PRESENT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM IN THIS ROOM? NOPE. THANK YOU. MR. RAMOS. REBUTTAL? NO, I DON'T HAVE AND NO REBUTTAL. THANK YOU. UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT TWO CASE. DR. JONES TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION? YES. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. I'M SORRY. UH, QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT. QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT. QUESTIONS REMOTE? YES. DR. ROMERO? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, I KNOW THERE WAS THE ORIGINAL REZONING, BUT IT'S PRETTY RECENTLY, WHAT WAS IT? WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS? UM, THIS REQUEST WAS MADE AND I BELIEVE ZONING COMMISSION, UH, MADE A RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL. CAN YOU TELL ME HOW LONG AGO THAT WAS? IT WAS ABOUT A YEAR AGO. AND IT WAS THE EXACT SAME REQUEST, CORRECT? AT LEAST FOR THE SUNDAY? YES. ABOUT A YEAR AGO, YES. THERE WAS A DIFFERENT APPLICANT AT THE TIME, UH, WITH THE REPRESENTATIVE THAT WAS REQUESTING TO ADD THE, UH, SUNDAY BUSINESS HOURS. THEY THEN WITHDREW, THEN, UH, THE PANDEMIC HAPPENED, AND NOW WE HAVE THIS NEW CASE. OKAY. THANK YOU. WELCOME. ALL RIGHT, DR. ROMERO, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? UH, ANY COMMISSIONERS REMOTE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR STAFF? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, UH, DR. JONES, UH, FOR MOTION AND DISCUSSION TO YOU, UH, I JUST WANNA COMMEND THE APPLICANT FOR REACHING OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND WORKING WITH THEM. AND, UM, I PLAN TO MOVE TO APPROVE THE, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION AND, UM, FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. WOULD THAT BE WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE YES. HOPEFULLY APPEARING ON THE SCREEN YES. WITH THE AMENDMENTS? MM-HMM. SECOND. STEPH, DO WE NEED THE, UH, CONDITIONS TO BE READ AS PART OF THE MOTION? YES, SIR. I CAN READ THEM IN FOR YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THE CONDITIONS ARE AS FOLLOWS. THERE SHALL BE NO EXTERIOR DISPLAY OR SIGN, WITH THE EXCEPTION, WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT OF A NAMEPLATE NOT EXCEEDING THREE SQUARE FEET. AN AREA MAY BE PERMITTED WHEN ATTACHED TO THE FRONT OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE. NO CONSTRUCTION FEATURES SHALL BE PERMITTED, WHICH WOULD PLACE THE STRUCTURE OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. BUSINESS, OR OFFICE. HOURS OF OPERATION SHALL NOT BE PERMITTED BEFORE 7:00 AM OR AFTER 6:00 PM ON MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. AND SHALL NOT BE PERMITTED BEFORE 8:00 AM OR AFTER 4:00 PM ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY OUTSIDE SPEAKERS SHALL BE PROHIBITED AND THERE SHALL BE STRICT ENFORCEMENT OF LIGHT POLLUTION FROM SIGNAGE AND LANDSCAPE LIGHTING. SO THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR APPROVAL WITH THE LI WITH THE CONDITIONS AS READ IN THE RECORD BY DR. JONES, UH, WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITE DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS. TO MY RIGHT, TO MY LEFT REMOTE COMMISSIONER, UH, MCDANIEL, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS LAST CONDITION. STRICT ENFORCEMENT OF LIGHT POLLUTION FROM SIGNAGE AND LANDSCAPING. IS THAT ENFORCEMENT BY OUR CODE COMPLIANCE PEOPLE? WHO IS IN, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR RE REINFORCING THAT IF IT'S STRICT? YEAH. YES. WE HAVE A PROVISION IN OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE ABOUT LIGHT, UH, POLLUTION ONTO ADJACENT PROPERTIES. AND SO, YES, OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT TEAM IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ENFORCEMENT OF THAT MEASURE. RIGHT. I I'M FOCUSED ON STRICT ENFORCEMENT, SO I'M WONDERING THEN IF THAT MEANS OUR CO COMPLIANCE OFFICERS ARE GOING TO BE GOING BY REGULARLY OR IF WE'RE STILL RELYING UPON COMPLAINT FROM THE NEIGHBORS OR COMMUNITY CODE ENFORCEMENT CAN HAPPEN BOTH PROACTIVELY AND, UH, REACTIVELY. MM-HMM. . SO IF A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IS OUT, UH, IN THE FIELD, THEY CAN PROACTIVELY ENFORCE IT. IF WE RECEIVE A COMPLAINT FROM THE NEIGHBOR, THEN WE CAN REACTIVELY ENFORCE IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, I'VE LOST MY TRACK IF WE'RE IN DISCUSSION OR NOT, BUT LET ME JUST SAY, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION. I HAVE BEEN ON THIS CASE AT LEAST TWICE NOW SINCE I'VE BEEN SEATED ON [00:40:01] THIS COMMISSION. AND THIS CASE HAS COME FORWARD TWO TIMES. I DO NOT SUPPORT ENCROACHMENT OF A BUSINESS INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S ALREADY EXISTING, UH, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME ISSUES IN THE PAST AND THE NEIGHBORS CAME FORWARD AND REQUESTED THAT CONDITION BE PUT INTO PLACE. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? REMOTE? YES, DR. ROME. THANK YOU. UM, YEAH, I WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS MOTION EITHER, BUT I DID WANNA THANK MS. RAMOS BECAUSE I'VE KNOWN HER A LONG TIME AND SHE'S A GREAT U T S A ALUMNUS. UM, BUT I WAS HERE FOR THE VERY FIRST, UM, VERSION OF THIS. AND, UH, THE NEIGHBORS AT THAT TIME WERE BITTERLY OPPOSED, UH, ESPECIALLY TO SUNDAY HOURS, BUT THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY REALLY COMPROMISED ON THIS. AND IT WAS ALWAYS A NICE EXAMPLE OF A COMPROMISE, UM, WHERE THE NEIGHBORS KEPT IT FROM ENCROACHING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AT LEAST WITH THE SUNDAY CLOSURE. UM, AND THEN THE LAST TIME IT CAME TO US, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL REMEMBER, THERE WAS ONLY ONE MAN WHO CAME OUT AND SPOKE AGAINST IT, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MIGHT'VE BEEN IN SUPPORT, BUT HE CAME OUT AND SAID THAT A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS WHO HAD OPPOSED IT WERE GETTING OLD. UH, HE TOLD US HE WAS VERY ILL, BUT HE STILL WANTED TO COME OUT AND OPPOSE IT. UH, AND I'M, I'M REALLY KIND OF TAKEN ABACK THAT JUST ONE YEAR LATER WE'RE GETTING THE SAME REQUEST AGAIN. I, I JUST CAN'T HELP BUT FEELING THAT THERE ARE NEIGHBORS WHO MAYBE WEREN'T AWARE OF THIS BECAUSE I HAD TO READ IT LIKE THREE TIMES BEFORE I REALIZED WHAT WAS GOING ON. I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT THIS IS REALLY WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS AND THE BALANCE IS JUST THAT A BUSINESS CAN BE OPEN FOR MORE HOURS, AND THAT'S, THAT'S JUST NOT DOING IT FOR ME. SO I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS ONE. THANKS. THANK YOU DR. ROMERO. UM, COMMISSIONER MCGEE. ALL RIGHT. UH, YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE. YEAH, SO I GUESS SOMEWHAT IN RESPONSE TO THOSE COMMENTS, I, I THINK IT'S A REAL SLIPPERY SLOPE TO, TO GUESS AND ASSUME WHAT FOLKS THAT ARE NOT HERE, UH, MIGHT BE THINKING OR FEELING ABOUT THIS. UM, OPINIONS CHANGE, FEELINGS CHANGE. UM, I THINK THERE IS A COMPROMISE HERE. I MEAN, IT'S, THE HOURS ARE SEVEN TO SIX, UH, ON THE OTHER DAYS. AND HERE FOR SUNDAY IT'LL ONLY BE EIGHT TO FOUR. IT, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS APPARENTLY, UM, IN SUPPORT OF IT FROM WHAT WE'VE HEARD, UH, TODAY. SO, SO TO SAY THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE FELT ONE WAY A YEAR AGO AND THEY'RE NOT HERE TODAY OPPOSING IT, BUT, BUT MAYBE THEY DO OPPOSE IT AND THEY DIDN'T. THEY JUST DECIDED NOT TO COME. I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE. WE COULD, WE COULD DO THAT ON SO MANY, UM, OTHER CASES. SO, UM, I DON'T SEE THAT WE'VE HAD ANY NEIGHBORHOOD OPPOSITION, UH, TODAY. UH, I THINK IT'S, UH, RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL. UM, AND SO, UH, OBVIOUSLY I SECONDED THE MOTION AND I SUPPORT IT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WHITE. COMMISSIONER REBUTTALS. UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I ALSO AGREE WITH MARK WHITE THAT MANY THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE, UH, COVID SINCE MARCH, UH, 2020. SO I WILL SUPPORT THIS, UM, UH, MOTION. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER REBUTS. ANY COMMISSIONERS? TO MY RIGHT, I SAW COMMISSIONER, WE'LL GO WITH COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL FIRST AND THEN COMMISSIONER ROMEO. UH, OKAY. SORRY. DIDN'T MEAN TO GET IN YOUR WAY. THERE. UM, WITH RESPECT TO, UH, MY OTHER COLLEAGUES, LET ME JUST SAY, UH, I HAVE STAYED MY POSITION AS I HAVE FOR THE LAST TWO TIMES. THIS HAS COME UP. I DO NOT SUPPORT ENCROACHMENT OF A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS INTO A RESIDENTIAL AREA. I THINK THERE ARE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT TO OCCUR DOWN THE ACTUAL COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. DR. ROMERO? YEAH, THANK YOU. I, I JUST, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UH, I, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT WHETHER NEIGHBORS CAME FORWARD OR NOT, BUT THE BASIS OF MY VOTE IS NOT THAT I AM SOMEHOW TRYING TO INFER WHAT PEOPLE ARE THINKING. I ALL ON MY OWN STEAM AND OF MY OWN OPINION FEEL THIS IS NOT A GOOD LAND USE DECISION. THANK YOU DR. ROMERO. UM, ALTHOUGH I WON'T SAY HOW I WILL VOTE, I WILL SAY WITH RESPECT TO MR. RAMOS, FOR ALL THE APPLICANTS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE THINKING ABOUT APPLYING FOR ZONING CHANGES, DO REACH OUT TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS RIGHT AWAY. I THINK WE CAN ALL SECOND THAT. ALRIGHT. UH, SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, STAFF ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. IN SUPPORT COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE [00:45:01] AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? NO. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? NO. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. MOTION PASSES EIGHT TO TWO. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU MR. RAMOS. WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. UH, WE ARE GONNA MOVE ON [4. ZONING CASE Z202010700223 (Council District 1): Ordinance amending the Zoning District Boundary from "IDZ AHOD" Infill Development Zone Airport Hazard Overlay District with various uses permitted to "IDZ2 AHOD“ Medium Intensity Infill Development Zone Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted for 18.5 dwelling units per acre on 4.408 acres out of NCB 886, NCB 887, and NCB 3591 and “IDZ3 AHOD” High Intensity Infill Development Zone Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted for 65 dwelling units per acre on 8.719 acres out of NCB 886, NCB 887, and NCB 3591, generally located at the intersection of Mt. Zion Walk and IH 37 South. Staff recommends Approval, pending Plan Amendment. (Associated Plan Amendment PA202011600063) (Lorianne Thennes, Senior Planner, 2102077945, lorianne.thennes@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department) (Part 2 of 2)] TO THE NEXT ITEM, UH, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR. AND LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS WALKING OUT OF THE HEARING ROOM. UM, SO THE TIME IS 1 51 AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS LEFT THE HEARING ROOM AS SHE HAS RECUSED FROM THIS ITEM. STAFF, IF WE COULD READ THIS ITEM INTO THE RECORD PLEASE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I D Z A H O D WITH VARIOUS USES PERMITTED TO I D Z TWO A H O D WITH USES PERMITTED FOR 18.5 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE ON 4.408 ACRES. AND I D Z THREE A H O D WITH USES PERMITTED FOR 65 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE ON 8.719 ACRES. GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF MOUNT ZION WALK AND I H 37 SOUTH. THERE WERE 112 NOTICES MAILED. ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, 14 RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION. LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. THERE WERE FOUR RESIDENTS WITHIN 200 FEET IN SUPPORT. THREE RESIDENTS WITHIN 200 FEET OPPOSED, ONE RESIDENT OUTSIDE, 200 FEET IN SUPPORT, AND FOUR RESIDENTS OUTSIDE. 200 FEET OPPOSED. THE CURRENT INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT WITH VARIOUS USES PERMITTED IS APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. HOWEVER, THE PROPOSED I D Z TWO AND I D Z THREE WILL ALLOW FOR HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES, WHICH IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS DOWNTOWN LOCATION ADJACENT TO I 35. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. IS THE APPLICANT OR APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PRESENT FOR THIS ITEM? MR. MCKNIGHT, IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US ABOUT THIS ZONING REQUEST. SURE. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS JAMES MCKNIGHT, 1 1 2 EAST PECAN FOR BROWN AND ORTIZ. GREAT. OKAY. SO I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING AUTHORITY, AS WELL AS, UH, ELLAS, WHO IS THE PARTNER WITH SAHA RIGHT NOW TO DEVELOP THE REMAINDER OF THIS PROPERTY. SO THE VICTORIA COMMONS SITE WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED, UH, AS A 36 ACRE SITE DOWNTOWN. UM, IF YOU CAN SCROLL UP PLEASE. AS PART OF SA HA'S MISSION, AS WE KNOW, SAHA PROVIDES MUCH NEEDED HOUSING IN THE AREA AND IT'S, IT'S HOUSING THAT'S WELL INTEGRATED INTO THE FABRIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THIS IS A, A REALLY IMPORTANT ROLE THAT SAHA PLAYS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU SCROLL DOWN, PLEASE. SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD MAP HERE SHOWS THE 36 ACRES, UM, THAT HAS BEEN PARTIALLY DEVELOPED. IT WAS ORIGINALLY REZONED TO I D Z AS INFILL IN 2002. UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE DOTS TWO AND THREE HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED AS THE HEMIS VIEW VILLAGE AND REFUGIO PLACE NUMBER ONE DOT UP THERE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION CURRENTLY. AND THERE WERE SOME HOMES BUILT ON LEE STREET TO THE SOUTH AND SOME ARTISAN PARK HOMES BUILT IN THE CENTER. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT REALLY IS, UH, NUMBERS 5, 6, 7, AND 10. THOSE ARE THE REMAINING AREAS AND YOU'LL SEE A BETTER MAP OF THAT COMING UP SOON. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS A SLIDE SHOWING THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, UH, AS IT IS TODAY. SO IT IS, I SAY AS IT IS TODAY 'CAUSE IT'S CHANGED OVER TIME AND I'LL, I'LL GET TO THAT. BUT YOU CAN SEE THIS IS A, A REAL MIX OF HOUSING AND, AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. THE YELLOW AREAS ARE THE APARTMENTS. YOU'VE GOT PURPLE AREAS THAT SHOW FOURPLEXES ORANGE AREAS THAT ARE SHOWING TRIPLEXES. THESE TEAL HOUSES ARE SHOWING DETACHED, SINGLE FAMILY. AND THEN THERE'S SOME, SOME TOWN HOMES OVER ON THE, THE BOTTOM. SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S A REAL MIX OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF HOUSING, BUT UH, IT'S, IT'S PROVIDING A LOT OF DIFFERENT UNITS. AND THIS PLAN THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT HERE IS ABOUT 440 TOTAL UNITS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS THE MAP AS IT STANDS TODAY, AS YOU, AS I SAID, IT'S 36 ACRES. IT WAS ALL I D Z, UM, A MIX OF, A MIX OF USES, SOME COMMERCIAL, SOME RESIDENTIAL, AND, UH, A LOT OF IT'S BEEN BUILT UP, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE JUST FOCUSING ON THOSE CENTER PARTS. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT RED OUTLINE THERE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS THE I D Z PLAN. IT'S, IT'S A COMPLICATED, UM, SITE. SO I THINK THIS, THIS HELPS CLEAR IT UP A LITTLE BIT THAT THE BLUE AREAS ARE WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING FOR [00:50:01] I D Z THREE FOR A DENSITY OF 65 UNITS AN ACRE. AND THAT'S INCLUDING A, WHAT WE'RE CALLING A NORTH POND AREA, A SOUTH POND AREA. THOSE ARE ADJACENT OR CONNECTED. AND THEN THE ADMIN, THE CURRENT ADMIN BUILDINGS OVER TO THE LEFT, THAT'S AN ACRE, 1.2 ACRES. THE CENTER AREA, WE'RE ASKING FOR IDZ TWO BECAUSE WE'RE GOING FOR A LOWER DENSITY THAT'S ONLY, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, 18.5 UNITS AN ACRE TOTAL, ALTHOUGH WE'RE ACTUALLY DEVELOPING IT 14 UNITS AN ACRE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS PART OF THE I D Z PLAN JUST TO SHOW THAT THROUGH WORKING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE HAVE, UH, ADJUSTED HEIGHTS, BUT WE WANTED TO INCLUDE MAX HEIGHTS AS PART OF THIS BECAUSE OF THE, THE INFILL NATURE OF THE SITE. SO THOSE OWN ORANGE AREAS, THOSE ARE THE, UM, THE HIGHER DENSITY LOCATIONS. THEY'RE SHOWING A MAX HEIGHT OF FIVE STORIES AND EVERYTHING IN THE CENTER IS SHOWING A MAX HEIGHT OF THREE STORIES. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS WAS THE PLAN THAT WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED IN 2002. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, THAT MIX OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF UNITS, BUT IT'S ONE OF THE, UH, OR TWO OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS TO NOTE IT IN THE MIDDLE. THE ITEMS THAT ARE LABELED C AND D, HARD TO SEE THERE. THOSE WERE ALL, UM, ZONED TO BE 25 UNITS AN ACRE AT MF 25. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY LOWERING THE DENSITY FOR THE CENTER PART OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. THE OTHER TWO, THE OTHER IMPORTANT PART OF THIS IS, UM, SPACE F IT'S CALLED OPEN SPACE HERE. THESE WERE AT THE TIME PLAN TO BE DETENTION AREAS AND DRAINAGE EASEMENTS, BUT, UM, AS YOU'LL SEE, WE FOUND A BETTER WAY TO DEAL WITH THAT. SO WE HAVE A MORE EFFICIENT WAY TO HANDLE THE, THE DRAINAGE IN THIS AREA. AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS ZONING IS, IS ABOUT IS THOSE TWO AREAS AND EVEN MORE SO THAT SOUTH POND AREA. SO THEY WERE OPEN SPACE, UM, TO, TO PROVIDE DRAINAGE IN 2002, BUT AT THIS TIME, WE'RE LOOKING TO INCREASE THE DENSITY IN THIS AREA AND PROVIDE THIS MUCH NEEDED HOUSING. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS A, A MAP SHOWING THE CURRENT LAND USE PLAN FOR THE, THE DOWNTOWN, UH, REGIONAL AREA PLAN. IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE ONLY THOSE FOUR ACRES THAT ARE OUTLINED IN BLUE ARE THE ONES THAT WE ACTUALLY HAD TO GO FOR A PLAN AMENDMENT THAT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL LAST WEDNESDAY. EVERYTHING ELSE ABOUT THIS PROJECT ALREADY MATCHES WHAT THE DOWNTOWN AREA PLAN HAD ADOPTED. AND REALLY THE ONLY REASON IT WAS ADOPTED AS OPEN SPACE FOR THE AREA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WAS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT WAS PLATTED AT THE TIME. SO, UH, STAFF IS, ARE, ARE NOT PRONE TO RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR CHANGING A PLAN THEY JUST ADOPTED TWO YEARS PRIOR, BUT IN THIS CASE THEY ARE BECAUSE THEY, THEY RECOGNIZE THAT PROBABLY WOULD'VE BEEN HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL HAD IT NOT BEEN PLATTED AT THAT TIME. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DOWNTURN HAPPENED AT THE TIME THAT PLATT CAME OUT IN 2007. THE DOWNTURN HAPPENED AND IT WAS NEVER FULLY DEVELOPED. SO NOW WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE CAN REALLY LOOK TO INCREASE THAT DENSITY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THESE ARE SLIDES THAT I'VE SHOWN BEFORE THAT THEY'RE ALWAYS REALLY IMPORTANT I THINK FOR US TO REMEMBER. THE SAN ANTONIO TOMORROW IS THE GUIDING DOCUMENT FOR OUR POLICIES. AND THEY HAVE IN THAT DOCUMENT HAVE POINTED OUT THAT BY 2020 WE'RE LOOKING AT AN INCREASE OF OVER A MILLION PEOPLE AND THE NEED FOR 500,000 DWELLING UNITS. AND YOU CAN ARGUE WHAT THAT NUMBER SHOULD BE, BUT CERTAINLY WE ALL KNOW THERE IS A NEED FOR HOUSING. THERE IS A NEED FOR FOR THE POPULATION GROWTH TO LIVE SOMEWHERE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND HERE'S ANOTHER PART OF THAT SAME POLICY POINTING OUT THAT IF WE DEVELOP AT THE CURRENT DENSITY THAT WE'VE BEEN DEVELOPING AT, WE'RE NEVER GONNA MAKE IT, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH LAND TO CAPTURE THE NEEDED HOUSING THAT WE, THAT WE SORELY NEED. AND SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT SPACES THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY NOT LOOKED AT. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS THOSE TWO OPEN SPACES ARE THESE VACANT AREAS THAT ARE NOW PERFECT FOR INFILL AND ADOPTING THE POLICY AS IT'S IT'S WRITTEN HERE TODAY. NEXT SLIDE. THESE ARE SOME OF THE GOALS FROM THE, THE DOWNTOWN REGIONAL PLAN. UM, PROVIDE FOR A MIX OF USES IN THE DOWNTOWN CORE. UH, THAT'S ENCOURAGING THE DEVELOPMENT OF VACANT LOTS. BROADEN THE DIVERSITY OF HOUSING OPTIONS, WHICH AS I'VE SHOWN YOU, WE'RE DOING DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY, ATTACHED SINGLE FAMILY APARTMENTS CREATE GREATER OPPORTUNITIES IN PARKS AND PUBLIC SPACE RECREATION. WE CAN SHOW, I'LL GO BACK TO THE PLANET IN A MINUTE, BUT WE'RE CONNECTING THROUGH PARKS AND TRAILWAYS TO CONNECT ALL OF THESE AREAS TO ONE ANOTHER AND CREATE A REAL SENSE OF URBAN SPACE. AND THE LAST ONE IS PROMOTE HEALTH, SAFETY AND SUSTAINABILITY BY CREATING A SUSTAINABLE URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD. AGAIN, THE THINGS THAT WE ARE ADOPTING AND PROPOSING AS PART OF OUR DESIGN. MEET THOSE GOALS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS IMPORTANT TO SHOW BECAUSE THIS IS, THIS WAS THE PLAN AS WE, UM, APPLIED FOR IT IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR. THAT'S HOW LONG THIS ZONING APPLICATION HAS BEEN PENDING. SEPTEMBER OF 2020, WE FILED THIS FOR 13 POINT ACRES OF 60 UNITS PER ACRE FOR THE ENTIRE THING. THAT'S 828 UNITS ORIGINALLY. SO THAT'S WHAT WE STARTED WITH AND, AND, AND IT WAS ALL SUPPOSED TO BE EARLY IN THE PROCESS. ALL MARKET RATE HOUSING SINCE THAT TIME. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. [00:55:01] WE'VE DONE A LOT OF OUTREACH AND THERE WAS, UM, THERE WAS A RESIDENT HERE THAT SPOKE ABOUT NOTIFYING THE NEIGHBORS. UM, THERE WAS A PREVIOUS CASE TALK ABOUT NOTIFYING THE NEIGHBORS. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO THE NEIGHBORS FOR OVER A YEAR AND A HALF, AND THAT'S SIGNIFICANT OUTREACH, MAILING, MAILERS, EMAILS TO THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE TO COME OUT TO THESE HEARINGS. THAT'S THE LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD, LEE STREET, WHICH IS PART OF THE LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE ARTISAN PARK FOLKS. SO THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH TO SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGE THE PROJECT AS IT ORIGINALLY STARTED TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. NEXT SLIDE. SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE IMPORTANT CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE, AND I'LL LIST A FEW OF THEM. SO I ALREADY TOLD YOU THAT ORIGINALLY IT WAS ALL MARKET RATE. NOW WE'RE HAVING A MIX OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS AS, UH, ONE OF THE REQUESTED, ONE OF THE REQUESTS BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. WE ELIMINATED COMMERCIAL USES ALTOGETHER THAT AT ONE POINT AT THE BEGINNING IT WAS MIXED IN. WE LOWERED THE DENSITY OF THAT Y M C A AREA. IT ACTUALLY BEEN REMOVED FROM THIS REZONING AT ALL BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY ZONED TO DO THE TOWN HOMES THAT WE ARE PLANNING. ORIGINALLY IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A, A, UH, FOUR STORY TOWER. WE CREATED A STEP DOWN APPROACH FOR AREAS THAT ARE NEAR THE LEE STREET FOLKS ON THE EASTERN END. SO THAT, THAT THE, THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS ACROSS THE STREET FROM 'EM WASN'T AS IMPOSING. WE ADDED ACCESS TO THE NORTH BASIN THROUGH SANTO STREET ON THE NORTH SIDE. AND YOU'RE GONNA SEE IN A MINUTE HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS TO CREATE A DIVERSE, UM, DISPERSION OF TRAFFIC AROUND THAT SITE. WE INCLUDED AND REQUIRED TWO ONSITE PARKING FOR EVERY SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOME AND 1.3 PARKING SPOTS FOR ALL OF THE OTHER, UH, RESIDENTIAL UNITS. AND THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE, AND YOU KNOW, I D Z ONLY REQUIRES 50% OF PARKING REQUIREMENTS, BUT WE'RE PROVIDING PLENTY OF PARKING. SO THAT IS NOT AN ISSUE. AND, UM, TOWARDS THE BOTTOM PARKS AND OPEN SPACE, WE ELIMINATED SOME OF THE UNITS THAT WE WERE PLANNING FOR TO CONNECT THE PARK TO THE WEST OF US AND THROUGH THE REST OF THE SITE. SO AFTER ALL OF THIS, UM, WE DID IN JULY RECEIVE A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE VACA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US AFTER ALL THE, THE HARD WORK THAT WE PUT INTO IT AND ALL THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT EVERYBODY'S HAPPY. UH, CLEARLY THERE'S PEOPLE SIGNED UP HERE TO SPEAK. I KNOW THAT, UM, ESPECIALLY THE FOLKS ON THE LEE STREET SIDE. AND I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE. SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS, THIS IS A DISPERSION OF HOW THE TRAFFIC IS, UH, GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT SITE. IF YOU HAVE TRAFFIC COMING DOWN FROM CESAR CHAVEZ, THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT STREETS, SANTOS STREET, REFUGIO STREET, AND LEE STREET THAT CAN ALL BE FED THROUGH TO GO TO AREAS FIVE AND SIX. THAT'S THE, THE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING. AND IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, SANTOS STREET, THAT'S BETWEEN NUMBERS TWO AND THREE, THAT'S THE SAME SIZE STREET AS LEE STREET. IT'S A 25 FOOT PAVED RIGHT AWAY AND IT HAS TWO APARTMENT BUILDINGS ON EITHER SIDE OF IT AND IT DEAD ENDS INTO THE HIGHWAY. SO THAT IS A PERFECT MATCH FOR WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ON LEE STREET, THE, THE SAME SIZE STREET FOR A SIMILAR NUMBER OF UNITS AND SIMILAR STREET. AND IT'S HANDLED THAT FINE AND IT'S ACTUALLY ADDING ANOTHER, UM, SEVERAL HUNDRED UNITS ON ITEM NUMBER ONE. SO THAT TOTAL AREA ON SANTOS STREET IS, HAS RIGHT NOW HANDLING 668 UNITS ON THAT SIZE STREET. IT HAS THE CAPACITY, AS I SAID, THE, THE STREETS ARE SPREAD OUT SO YOU'RE NOT HAVING ALL OF THE TRAFFIC COMING DOWN ONE AREA. WE HAVE DONE A TRAFFIC STUDY ON OUR OWN AND SHOWN THAT THE NUMBER OF CARS THAT ARE COMING DOWN TO LEE STREET IS ACTUALLY ONLY 10% OF THE TOTAL TRAFFIC. NOW THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE A FULL T A A BECAUSE THIS IS AN I D Z SITE. HOWEVER, IT IS THE SAME TYPE OF STUDY THAT YOU DO FOR ANY ZONING CASE TO LOOK AT THE FULL VOLUME OF TRAFFIC. WE'VE DONE OUR HOMEWORK. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AGAIN, THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, SLIDE JUST SO YOU COULD SEE THAT ON THE, THE YELLOW UNITS ON THE, I GOT MY LITTLE RIGHT HERE. SO ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT WE HAD HEARD WAS THAT THIS WAS ORIGINALLY TOWN HOMES. IF YOU SCROLL DOWN A LITTLE BIT, PLEASE, JUST A LITTLE, SO YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE, THIS WAS IN THE ORIGINAL PLAN. YOU CAN SEE THESE WERE TOWN HOMES ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE, THE LEE STREET FOLKS. AND SO NOW WE'VE GOT APARTMENTS AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IS, UH, PART OF THAT STEP DOWN THAT I I REFERRED TO WAS CREATE AN AREA THAT LOOKS AND FEELS SIMILAR TO WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN FOR THE TOWN HOME AREAS. SO SCROLL TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS A PROPOSED VIEW FOR WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE LOOKING NORTH AND WEST DOWN MOUNTAIN ZION. SO YOU CAN SEE THE LEE STREET HOMES TO THE LEFT MOST OF TWO STORY. SOME OF 'EM ARE THREE STORY AND A THREE STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX ON THE RIGHT, WHICH WE HAVE COMMITTED TO AS PART OF THIS I D Z ZONING. AND YOU CAN SEE THIS IS, THIS IS NOT AN OUT OF PLACE, UM, DEVELOPMENT AT ALL, BUT GOES TO SA HA'S MISSION OF INTEGRATING INTO THE FABRIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ONE THAT HAD BEEN PLANNED FOR ALL ALONG. SO DON'T FORGET THAT A LOT OF THIS, A LOT OF THESE CARS, A LOT OF THESE UNITS WERE ALREADY PLANNED FOR. [01:00:01] NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS, UH, A MASSING MODEL SHOWING THAT PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS OR PART OF THE, THE DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS PROJECT WAS CREATING A, UH, A GUIDELINE DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR THE PROJECT. SO YOU COULD HAVE, ANYTIME YOU HAD MASSING IN THESE AREAS, THAT WOULD BE A, A BREAKUP OF THAT MASSING. SO IT WOULD MATCH THAT, UH, THE URBAN FEEL AROUND IT. SO IT'S, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE THAT WE JUST DIDN'T CREATE THIS MASSIVE WALL. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN A PROJECT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN CONSTRUCTED. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. UM, THIS, THESE ARE JUST, UM, OUTTAKES FROM THE, THE DESIGN BOOK GOALS SAYING THAT THIS IS NOT JUST A PROJECT THAT'S BEING THROWN UP. WE ACTUALLY THOUGHT THROUGH AND WORKED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON WHAT THOSE THE GOALS OF THAT DESIGN BOOKLET WOULD LOOK LIKE. LEX, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THIS IS JUST SHOWING THAT THERE IS A, A PLANNED, UM, A PROPOSED TRAIL THAT CONNECTS HEMISPHERE PARK IN THE NORTH DOWN TO LONE STAR IN THE SOUTH. AND THAT OUR PROJECT GOES THROUGH THAT, UM, AGAIN AS PART OF THAT URBAN DESIGN AND CONNECTIVITY THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO OBVIOUSLY, UM, THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT THE, UM, THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION FOR NOW. I JUST WANNA SAY I'M HERE FOR ANSWERING QUESTIONS, BUT I AM REQUE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU MR. MCKNIGHT. THANK YOU STAFF. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC STATEMENT? YES SIR. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF SPEAKERS HERE IN PERSON AND ALSO 17 VOICEMAILS. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. UH, LET'S BEGIN WITH THE SPEAKERS PLEASE. LOUISA. STACY AND SIR, SHE ALSO SIGNED UP FOR A VOICEMAIL, SO WE'RE JUST GONNA ELIMINATE THE VOICEMAIL. BUT MS. STACY, IF YOU COULD COME UP TO THE HAVE TO LEAVE. SHE HAD TO LEAVE. MAKE HER VOICEMAIL. OH, OKAY. OKAY. WE'LL PLAY HER VOICEMAIL. WE CAN DO THAT NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE. THANK YOU. UM, MINDY ETHERIDGE, UM, I'M GONNA DEFER MY TIME TO CALEB RIDGE. SHE'S ASSIGNING HER TIME TO CALEB ETHERIDGE. CALEB ETHRIDGE. CAN WE ADD SOME MORE PEOPLE? I THINK Y'ALL GOING NOT IN THE RIGHT ORDER. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO ASSIGN TIME TO MR. ERIDGE? AN ONLY THREE CAN. THREE CAN. SO HE CAN ONE MORE PERSON RIGHT NOW. THAT'LL GIVE HIM NINE MINUTES TOTAL TO ADDRESS THIS COMMISSION. SO OLGA, WHAT WAS YOUR LAST NAME, MA'AM? I'M SORRY. LHD. OKAY. YOU HAVE THAT MS. FLORES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. MR. MR. ERIDGE, YOU HAVE NINE MINUTES. OKAY, THANK YOU. IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE. YEP. I'M, UH, CALEB ERIDGE. UH, 5 3 5 LEE STREET. UH, CAN I GET THE SLIDE UP BEFORE MY TIME STARTS? UM, ALRIGHT. YEP. OKAY. SORRY, WE'RE A LITTLE CONFUSED ON THE PROCESS. THOUGHT WE'D HAVE ONE MORE TIME WITH, WE'VE GOT MORE PEOPLE HERE, BUT, UH, THANKS FOR TAKE. CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE? THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR MY, UH, COMMENTS. UM, AND JUST, I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE LITERALLY REPRESENTING A GROUP NEARING A HUNDRED CITIZENS IN THIS, IN THIS AREA. UM, WE HAD, UH, 40 PLUS COME OUT OVER THE WEEKEND WITH, UH, MARIO BRAVO. UM, AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET A WORKABLE COMPROMISE TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. UM, BUT WE ARE STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THE CURRENT FORM BASED ON SEVERAL FATAL FLAWS, UM, THAT I HOPE TO HIGHLIGHT TODAY. UM, SO YEAH, SO WE'RE, WE'RE NOT NIMBYS, WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE DEVELOPMENT. UM, BUT I WANT THE COMMISSION NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND HOW HARD IT IS TO GET AN ACCURATE GROUP OF PEOPLE HERE. ALSO, THAT SHOWING WITH JUST THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE OUTREACH FOR THIS SPECIFIC MEETING. UM, I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT THE L AND A LETTER, UM, DID GIVE, UH, APPROVAL, UM, IN THEORY. UH, THIS LETTER UP HERE, THIS IS THE LETTER, IT'S HARDLY A FIRM APPROVAL. . UM, AND JUST YESTERDAY ACTUALLY, L AND A SENT AN EMAIL AND I'LL READ PART OF IT. TRAFFIC AND THE IMPACT OF DENSITY ON EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE CONTINUED TO BE A CONCERN FOR THE L AND A AS NOTED IN OTHER ITEMS FROM THEIR PREVIOUS LETTERS. UM, THE L AND A RECOMMENDED THAT AN UPDATED TRAFFIC STUDY BE CONDUCTED IN THIS LETTER AND A FOUR-WAY STOP BE CONSIDERED AT LABOR AND LEE STREET. AND IT SAYS THE L AND A CONTINUES IN DISCUSSIONS REGARDING ALTERNATE ACCESS TO I 37 AND ADDITIONAL OUTLETS ON LABOR STREET, PROVIDED THESE DO NOT IMPACT THE USE OF THE PARK. SO, TO THEIR POINT ABOUT THE, UH, ACCESS TO I 37, WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT THIS, BUT LITERALLY JUST NORTH OF HERE, THERE'S, UH, ACCESS TO HEMISPHERE TOWER PARKING RIGHT OFF OF THE SAME FRONTAGE ROAD. IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE IT'S NOT POSSIBLE HERE. UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. FROM THE LATEST CONCEPT. [01:05:01] UM, IT, IT'S, IT IS PRETTY CONFUSING. 'CAUSE THIS CONCEPT, I MEAN, IT LOOKS GOOD, RIGHT? IT, IT LOOKS GOOD. IT HAS THE ADJACENCY TO THE HIGHWAY AND, AND KIND OF TO MULTIFAMILY OR STRETCHING THAT FOR SURE. UM, BUT THE ADJACENCY, LET'S BE CLEAR, IT DOES NOT MEAN ACCESS, RIGHT? AND WE'LL SHOW HOW THAT FLAWS FROM EVERY OTHER MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, UH, NEAR THE URBAN CORE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UH, STORIES TOLD, KIND OF GONNA SKIP THIS 'CAUSE I HAVE LESS TIME, BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE PREVIOUS CONCEPTS, UH, THERE WERE SOME FIRM APPROVED BY HUD CONCEPTS WHEN WE BUILT OUR HOUSES. IT WAS NOT CHANGING, RIGHT? THESE ARE 1999, WAY LESS DENSE. PLEASE NOTICE IT HAS ANOTHER ACCESS TO LABOR STREET. UM, THERE WAS THIS PROPOSAL IN 2013 THAT WAS SHOT DOWN BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT WAS LESS DENSE THAN THE ONE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED A TODAY. IT WAS GONE BACK TO THIS PROPOSAL THAT WE, UH, KIND OF HAVE SEEN HERE AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT? UM, PHASE ONE WAS THE LEE STREET. PHASE TWO IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE TOWN HOMES. THAT WAS NOT DONE. PHASE THREE WAS THE PARK IMPROVEMENTS. THAT WAS NOT DONE. PHASE FOUR, UH, 100 LABOR, THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION. OKAY? DETENTION POND , PLEASE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THE, IT, IT WASN'T SHOWN TODAY IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UH, THINGS THAT WERE STATED THERE WERE COMPLETELY FALSE. THIS IS WHAT WAS SAID. THEY ARE NOT DETENTION PONDS. NOW, THEY'RE JUST LAND THAT'S COMPLETELY FALSE. THEY'RE ACTIVE DETENTION PONDS. UM, I WAS, UH, ACTUALLY, UH, JUST WRITING DOWN SOME OF THE EMBANKMENTS WITH MY FIVE-YEAR-OLD SON AFTER HE FIGURED THEY WERE DANGEROUS THIS WEEKEND. BUT, UM, THEY'RE ACTIVE DETENTION BASINS AND THEY ARE ZONED AS OPEN SPACE. UM, SO, UH, AND IN FACT THIS, WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER WITH COUNCILMAN BRAVO, WE MET WITH HIM FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. HE CLEARLY DEFINED THE SAFETY ISSUE BY ASKING WHAT HAPPENS WHEN CLIMATE CHANGES IMPACTS ARE SEEN, AND THESE DETENTION BASINS ARE NOT HERE. AS A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, I I FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT THERE ARE WAYS TO MITIGATE FOR STORMS WITHOUT THESE EXACT DETENTION BASINS. I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT WITH ATLAS FOURTEEN'S NEW PARTICIP PRECIPITATION ESTIMATES, IT'S CLEAR THAT FLOODING IS BECOMING HARDER TO SOLVE, NOT EASIER AS THE CASE IS TRYING TO BE MADE FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. NEXT SLIDE. PLEASE. NOT ONLY ARE THESE FUNCTIONAL GREEN SPACES, BUT THEY'RE UTILIZED MY, LIKE MANY MOSTLY DRY DETENTION BASINS FOR ALL SORTS OF RECREATION. UM, AND THEY ARE PLATTED OR ZONED AS OPEN SPACE AS SHOWN IN ALL OF THESE THINGS. THEY'RE, THEY'RE OPEN SPACE. OKAY, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS TRAIL , RIGHT? IT LOOKS GREAT. UH, I, ALONG WITH MOST RESIDENTS WOULD, WOULD LOVE THIS AND I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT ON THIS, BUT THE TRUTH IS, WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT HOW HARD IT WOULD BE FOR TECH.TO GRANT THE ACCESS NEEDED FROM THE HIGHWAY FOR VEHICULAR ACCESS. BUT THIS SLIDE THAT IS USED AS THE ENDING PRESENTATION CAP PRE JUST PREVIOUSLY, IT GOES THROUGH BOTH TXDOT RIGHT AWAY AND THE RAILROAD RIGHT AWAY. I THINK WE KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. UH, THE DEFINITION RIGHT HERE, , THIS, THIS FORM OF DEVELOPMENT IS TYPICALLY LOCATED ALONG OR NEAR MAJOR ARTERIALS OR COLLECTORS LOCATED ALONG IS OBVIOUSLY MEANING ACCESS, RIGHT? IT, IT'S LOCATED ALONG THOSE. SO YOU CAN HAVE ACCESS TO MAJOR ARTERIALS OR COLLECTORS, NOT SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THEM. WE DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE HERE. SECONDLY, HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USAGE SHOULD BE LOCATED IN A MANNER THAT DOES NOT ROUTE TRAFFIC THROUGH OTHER LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY, THIS , THIS IS THE DEFINITION OF A LOWER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL STREET THAT IS PROVIDING ACCESS. AND WE TALKED ABOUT 10% I THINK IS WHAT WAS SAID. THERE'S A 600% INCREASE ON THIS STREET FROM THESE DEVELOPMENTS, WHICH IS SHOWN HERE. BUT HONESTLY, THE INCREASE DOES NOT MATTER. PREVIOUS LAND, LAND USE DEFINITION SHOWED THE ACCESS SHOULD NOT BE THROUGH A LOWER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL STREET. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO I HAD TO DO THIS IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE, UH, LABOR STREET'S CURRENTLY CLOSED FROM 100 LABOR CONSTRUCTION. UM, BUT UH, IT'S ALWAYS CLOSED FOR ALAMODOME EVENTS, HEMISPHERE EVENTS. IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN HERE, YOU'VE PROBABLY FIGURED THAT OUT. SO THAT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? ALL TRAFFIC WOULD THEN BE ROUTED THROUGH LABOR, THEN THROUGH LEE STREET, ALL TRAFFIC. UM, SO EATON, THIS IS EVEN WITHOUT THE CLOSURE OF THE ROADS. THIS THIS IS SHOWING WITHOUT CLOSURE OF THE ROADS SOUTHBOUND OR INBOUND TRAFFIC FROM 2 81 STILL GOES DOWN LEE STREET. OKAY, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THESE QUICK BORDEN PARK. THIS IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. I'M TRYING TO GET SOME EXAMPLES HERE SO Y'ALL CAN SEE. UM, AND THIS IS THE CLOSEST, UH, 'CAUSE I'M NOT TRYING TO CHERRY PICK. I'M TRYING TO SHOW AN HONEST VIEW OF DEVELOPMENT IN OUR CITY. THIS ONE PROBABLY DOES HAVE SOME TRAFFIC ROUTED THROUGH A NEIGHBORHOOD STREET, RIGHT? BUT ALL OF THE MAIN AXIS WAYS AND ALL THE WAYS THAT GOOGLE SAYS TO GO ARE NOT THROUGH THAT STREET, RIGHT? SO YOU CAN GO THROUGH IT, BUT IT DOESN'T DIRECT YOU THERE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OH, THE ALSO THAT [01:10:01] EXISTING SITE WAS A INDUSTRIAL SITE, NOT OPEN, GREEN SPACE. OKAY, HERE'S SOUTHTOWN FLATS ADJACENT TO A SINGLE FOOT FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, PARKING GARAGE, ENTRY ON AVIOS. NEXT SLIDE. UM, CAN WE JUST GO ALL THE WAY TO, UH, YEAH, KEEP GOING. THESE ARE ALL EXAMPLES. RIVER NORTH DEVELOPMENT. EVERY SINGLE DEVELOPMENT UP THERE DOES NOT GO THROUGH SINGLE FAMILY STREETS. MUELLER IS A GREAT DEVELOPMENT. IT'S DONE BY CATULLUS. THEY'RE A GREAT DEVELOPER. UM, THIS PLAN WAS DONE WELL. YOU CAN SEE THE RED, UH, IS COMMERCIAL, MULTI OR MULTIFAMILY. IT'S A LONG ACCESS WAYS. ALL OF IT HAS ACCESS, NOT THROUGH THE RESIDENTIAL STREETS. OKAY, NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS THE IMAGE WE SEE. HERE'S THE TRUTH, THE NEXT SLIDE. IT'S LITERALLY TWO HOUSES. THE GARAGE IS NOT ACCESSED FROM ALONG THOSE HOUSES. NEXT SLIDE. SAME THING. WE JUST SAW THIS IMAGE. THIS IS NOWHERE NEAR WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON LEE STREET OR THIS DEVELOPMENT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS, THERE'S LITERALLY H E B FULL ON RETAIL, NO SINGLE FAMILY INSIGHT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THESE ARE SOME IDEAS. THEY'RE SUPER ROUGH. THIS IS WHAT YOU DO AT 1:00 AM WHEN YOU'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT YOUR COMMUNITY. UM, AND THESE WERE SENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM. UM, DIDN'T REALLY GET ANYWHERE WITH THAT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO HERE'S THE ASK. UH, I THINK THIS IS VERY REASONABLE. UM, I'D LIKE TO READ THROUGH THESE. I MIGHT RUN OUTTA TIME. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS. MULTIPLE OF THESE L AND A HAS ASKED FOR AS WELL REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE AN EQUAL AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE TO WHAT WILL BE REMOVED AS URBAN GREEN SPACE IS A VITAL PART OF A SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITY THAT IS EVEN HARDER TO UNDERSTAND. ITS REMOVAL FROM AN URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD IN THIS AGE OF COVID. THE TRAIL SHOULD BE FULLY FUNDED AND APPROVED BEFORE MULTIFAMILY DESTRUCTION BEGINS. NOT JUST FOR EYE CANDY REQUIREMENT OF A HUNDRED PERCENT PARKING. WITHOUT THIS, IT WILL CREATE INCREDIBLE PROBLEMS FOR THE EXTENDED NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S YOUR TIME, SIR. NINE MINUTES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. ETHERIDGE. ALRIGHT, STAFF NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE. TERRY BILBY. MS. BILBY IS ANYONE, UH, ARE, IS ANYONE GONNA GIVE YOU SOME OF THEIR TIME? DO YOU KNOW? OKAY, THANK YOU. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, MA'AM, IF YOU WOULD. YEAH, WE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS TERRY BILBY. I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE SAN ANTONIO APARTMENT ASSOCIATION LOCATED AT 75 25 BABCOCK ROAD. OUR ORGANIZATION REPRESENTS THE DEVELOPERS, OWNERS, AND OPERATORS OF 220,000 RENTAL HOMES IN THE GREATER SAN ANTONIO AREA. THE SAN ANTONIO APARTMENT ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN OF THE VICTORIA COMMONS AS IT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO YOU TODAY AND ASKS THAT YOU APPROVE THE PLAN SO THAT IT CAN MOVE FORWARD. AS ADVOCATES FOR HOUSING CHOICE FOR ALL SAN ANTONIANS, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT WILL PROVIDE MUCH NEEDED HOUSING, BOTH AFFORDABLE AND MARKET IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. TEXAS IS A DESIRABLE STATE FOR BUSINESSES AND FAMILIES WANTING TO RELOCATE, AND AS WE ALL KNOW, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS ONE OF THE MOST DESIRABLE CITIES TO LIVE IN. DUE TO OUR RELATIVELY LOW COST OF LIVING, EASE OF DOING BUSINESS, OUR RICH CULTURE AND OUR WONDERFUL PEOPLE MOVE. PEOPLE ARE MOVING HERE EVERY DAY AND THEY NEED HOUSING. SO AS DO THE ESSENTIAL WORKERS AND SERVICE WORKERS AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO ALREADY LIVE HERE, WE AS A COMMUNITY NEED TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS HOUSING FOR EVERYONE AND WE MUST BUILD NEW HOUSING ON THE AVAILABLE LAND THAT WE HAVE. THE DEVELOPER HAS WORKED WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS TO ADDRESS AS MANY OF THEIR CONCERNS AS POSSIBLE, AND IT IS TIME TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD. WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE STRUGGLING TO FIND HOUSING THAT THEY CAN AFFORD, WHICH IS WHY WE NEED TO CHALLENGE ANYONE WHO TRIES TO PROPOSE NEW, VIABLE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS. THE PROPOSED PLAN PROVIDES FOR HOUSING CHOICES FOR MULTIPLE TYPES OF INCOME, WHICH MAKES SENSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. DELAYS CAUSE APARTMENT DEVELOPERS WHO ARE WILLING TO RISK BUILDING AND NEW PROPERTY TO GIVE UP AND MOVE TO ANOTHER CITY OR ANOTHER PROJECT, AND THEN SAN ANTONIANS CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE FINDING HOUSING THAT THEY CAN AFFORD. ALL SAN ANTONIANS DESERVE TO HAVE MORE CHOICES IN THEIR HOUSING, IN THE AREAS THEY WANT AND NEED TO LIVE IN. THIS REDEVELOPMENT PLAN DELIVERS JUST THAT IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. WE URGE YOU TO APPROVE VICTORIA COMMONS REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AS SUBMITTED AND TO PREVENT ANY ADDITIONAL DELAYS TO THIS CRITICALLY NEEDED HOUSING. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. THANK YOU MS. BILBY. STAFF NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE. IS RONNIE ROTH IN THE AUDIENCE OR DO WE NEED TO WAIT FOR THE VOICEMAIL? MR. ROTH, YOU'RE GIVING YOUR TIME TO SOMEONE? YES. TO WHOM ARE YOU GIVING YOUR TIME? ANYONE WHO, WHAT IS YOUR NAME, SIR? WILSON. MR. WILSON, MR. ROCK IS ASSIGNING HIS THREE MINUTES TO MR. WILSON. MR. WILSON AT THIS TIME HAS SIX MINUTES UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE PIPES UP. STAFF. WHO IS THE NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE? MAY [01:15:01] FERNANDEZ MAY. OH, I'M GONNA GIVE MY TIME TO JIMMY PERKINS. MS. FERNANDEZ IS GIVING HER TIME TO JIMMY PERKINS. MR. PERKINS AND MS. MR. WILSON EACH HAVE SIX MINUTES AT THIS TIME. NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE. VICKY PERKINS. HI, I'M GETTING MY TIME TO JIMMY PERKINS. OKAY, MS. PERKINS IS GIVING HER TIME TO MR. PERKINS. MR. PERKINS IS TOPPED OUT AT NINE MINUTES AT THIS POINT. MR. WILSON HAS SIX. WALTER WILSON. MR. WILSON IS, DOES ANYONE WANT TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO MR. WILSON? ALRIGHT, MR. WILSON, YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES. ALRIGHT, WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, MY NAME IS WALTER WILSON. I LIVE AT 5 2 3 LEE STREET, UH, WHICH IS, UH, PART OF THE VICTORIA COMMONS DEVELOPMENT. UM, I THINK, UH, MY NEIGHBOR, CALEB ETHERIDGE DID A NICE JOB IN HIS PRESENTATION OF ILLUSTRATING THAT IT'S NOT COMMON AND PROBABLY UNWISE, UH, LAND USE, UH, DEVELOPMENT TO ROUTE HIGH DENSITY, UH, PROJECTS THROUGH SMALL RESIDENTIAL STREETS. UH, AND SO I'D LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE MAJOR PROBLEMS I SEE WITH THE PLAN. UM, YOU KNOW, SAHA HAS A, A REALLY IMPORTANT AND LAUDABLE MISSION, UH, TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR COMMUNITY. UH, THE REALLY UNFORTUNATE THING IS THAT I THINK THIS PROJECT APPEARS TO BE PUTTING SOME FINANCIAL CONCERNS AHEAD OF THE COMMUNITY, CONCERNS OF RESIDENTS CURRENT AND FUTURE. UH, AND IN PART THEY'RE DOING THAT BY CUTTING CORNERS, UH, RATHER THAN IT'S STRIVING FOR THE HIGHEST DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT WE SHOULD REALLY BE HOLDING THEM TO AS AN INSTITUTION THAT SERVES THE PUBLIC INTEREST. UH, I'M SURE THAT NONE OF YOU WOULD BUILD A HOUSE THAT DIDN'T HAVE A DRIVEWAY OR A PLACE TO PARK YOUR CAR. RIGHT? AND THERE'S A STRONG REASON FOR THAT, CONTRARY TO WHAT I THINK MR. MCKNIGHT WAS CONVEYING. THAT IS PRECISELY WHAT SAHA IS PLANNING TO DO, UH, WITH A LARGE PORTION OF THIS PROJECT, UH, FOR HUNDREDS OF FAMILIES. AND SO I THINK IT'S INEVITABLE THAT IF THIS PROJECT GOES FORWARD WITHOUT CHANGES, THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE CURRENT RESIDENTS, UH, WILL SEE THEIR RESIDENTIAL STREETS, AND I'M SPEAKING OF LEE STREET AND REFUGIO STREET HERE. UH, THEY'RE GONNA BE CLOGGED WITH TRAFFIC IN PART DUE TO PEOPLE CIRCLING AROUND SEARCHING FOR PARKING SPOTS. WE'RE GONNA SEE THE FUTURE RESIDENTS OF ESPECIALLY THE SOUTH TOWER BUILDING AND THE POND FORCED TO WALK BLOCKS FROM THEIR CARS, UH, TO THE APARTMENT BUILDING SINCE THEY ONLY PROVIDE PROPOSE 1.3, UH, SPACES PER UNIT. UH, AND I THINK PERHAPS THE MOST PROBLEMATIC CONCERN HERE IS THAT IT WILL WITHOUT ADEQUATE ACCESS POSE, UH, A THREAT TO EMERGENCY RESPONSE. WHEN, WHEN MY DAUGHTER WAS BORN TWO YEARS AGO, RAPID EMERGENCY RESPONSE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT SAVED HER LIFE AND THE LIFE OF MY WIFE. SAW SAHA SHOULD NOT BE BUILDING HUNDREDS OF HOMES THAT CAN ONLY BE ACCESSED BY A PAIR OF SMALL RESIDENTIAL STREETS, EITHER OF WHICH WILL INEVITABLY BE SHUT DOWN BY CONSTRUCTION AS LEE STREET WAS FOR MONTHS LAST YEAR, OR BY DELIVERIES OR COLLISIONS OR CONGESTION. IT'S JUST BAD IDEA TO POTENTIALLY ISOLATE ALL OF THOSE RESIDENTS DOWN THERE WITHOUT ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE. MY FRIENDS, I WOULD URGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT THIS DECISION TODAY IN TERMS OF WHO WILL PAY THE COST OF THIS PROJECT. WILL SAHA PAY THE COST TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE TRANSPORTATION AND ADEQUATE PARKING INFRASTRUCTURE? OR WILL CURRENT AND FUTURE RESIDENTS PAY FOR THEIR FAILURE TO DO SO WITH CONGESTION, INCONVENIENCE AND COMPROMISED PUBLIC SAFETY? THE CHOICE IS YOURS. I URGE YOU TO DENY THEIR REQUEST FOR REZONING UNTIL THEY LEGALLY COMMIT TO 100% PARKING NEEDED BY THE FUTURE RESIDENTS OF THIS PROJECT, AND TO EXTEND MCMONAGLE PLACE TO LABOR STREET TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE TRANSPORTATION ACCESS, AS WAS CALLED FOR IN THE 2002 PLAN FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THIS COMMISSION. AND CAN I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME OR NOT? YOU CANNOT. OKAY. THANK YOU. BUT THANK YOU MR. WILSON. STAFF NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE. JIMMY PERKINS. MR. PERKINS, YOU HAVE NINE MINUTES, [01:20:01] SIR. THANK YOU. IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS. YEAH, MY NAME IS JIMMY PERKINS. I'M AT 5 27 LEE STREET. GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF. I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THIS CHANGE OR AT LEAST PARTIALLY OPPOSE THIS CHANGE. UH, YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN A LOT OF DATES THIS AFTERNOON, 2002, 2007, ET CETERA. I THINK THE IMPORTANT DATE IS 2014, OR AT LEAST ONE OF THE IMPORTANT DATES THAT I'M GONNA PRESENT TO YOU. IN 2014, UH, THE SAHA BOARD SIGNED A GRAND MA MASTER PLAN FOR VICTORIA COMMONS THAT INCLUDED 98 TOWN HOMES AND ZERO APARTMENTS. THAT WAS PREDICATED ON WHAT HAD HAPPENED A FEW MONTHS EARLIER WHEN ARTISAN PARK HIRED AN ATTORNEY AND DEMANDED THAT SAHA NOT GO THROUGH WITH A PLAN TO PUT APARTMENT BUILDINGS BEHIND ARTISAN PARK INTO THE NORTH OF OF LEE STREET. IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE DEEDS AND CONTRACTS FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT THE LAND WAS TO BE DEVELOPED IN INTO TOWN HOMES FOR THE LEE STREET, UH, NEIGHBORS. THE SITUATION WAS A BIT DIFFERENT. WE ALL BOUGHT OUR LOTS IN 2015, OR AT LEAST WE BID ON AND WON THE RIGHT TO PURCHASE THOSE LOTS. IN 2015, UH, TWO OF THE SAHA HIRED TWO REAL ESTATE ATTORNEYS TO REPRESENT THEM IN THE SALE OF THOSE OF THOSE LOTS. ONE OF THOSE REAL ESTATE ATTORNEYS HAPPENED TO BE MY PRIVATE ATTORNEY, UH, A REAL ESTATE AGENT. UH, THEY KNEW NOTHING ABOUT APARTMENTS TO BE BUILT ON THIS LAND. IF YOU GO LOOK AT THIS LAND, YOU'LL SEE, UH, IN BETWEEN LEE STREET AND NORSON PARK THAT IT'S PLATTED AND WITH UTILITIES. SO IT'S CLEAR WHERE ALL THE TOWNHOUSES ARE GOING TO BE, ALL 98 OF THEM. THERE WAS NO INFORMATION PROVIDED TO US. IT WAS NOT DISCLOSED BY SAHA THAT THEY HAD ANY PLANS TO BUILD APARTMENTS. SO WHEN SAHA TALKS ABOUT CONCESSIONS THAT THEY'VE MADE TO US, WE STARTED WITH FROM A POSITION THAT WE ALL BELIEVE WE WOULD HAVE 98 TOWN HOMES AND THAT SOME OF THEM WOULD BE AFFORDABLE. WE CERTAINLY EXPECTED, AND WERE ALL IN FAVOR OF A GOOD PROPORTION OF THOSE BEING AFFORDABLE. WE MOVED INTO THIS AREA BECAUSE WE LIKED, WE LIKED MIXED HOUSING. SO WHAT WE WOULD ASK SAHA TO DO IS TO FOLLOW THEIR OWN RULES. AND WITH RESPECT TO THAT, UH, THE LEASE STREET PROPERTY OWNERS HAD TO ABIDE BY ABOUT A 30 PAGE DOCUMENT WHEN WE DESIGNED OUR HOUSES. AND THEN AFTER THAT DESIGN WAS PUT IN PLAY OR, OR WAS FINALIZED, UH, IT WAS THEN GIVEN TO A THREE PERSON COMMITTEE, WHICH HAD TO APPROVE IT. SOME OF THE THINGS, ACTUALLY, A NUMBER OF THINGS IN THOSE DOCUMENTS REFERRED TO WHAT I CALL COMMUNITY INTEGRITY. IT WAS SAHA TRYING TO PRESERVE THE CULTURE, THE NATURE OF LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD, FOR EXAMPLE, THE EXACT WORDS OUR HOUSES NEED TO FIT SEAMLESSLY WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE GREATER LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD. WE NEED TO CONSIDER THE IMPACT OF OUR LAYOUT ON NEIGHBORING PROPERTY. WE NEED TO MAINTAIN THE TRANSITIONAL DENSITY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I DON'T THINK BUILDING A BATTLESHIP NEXT TO A BUNCH OF TOWNHOUSES IS A GOOD TRANSITION PLAN, BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. IN ADDITION, ADEQUATE PARKING AND APPROPRIATE TRAFFIC WOULD BE IN SPIRIT WITH KEEPING COMMUNITY INTEGRITY. IT'S ALSO ABOUT EIGHT OR EIGHT OR NINE OTHER, UH, POINTS IN THOSE GUIDELINES THAT WE HAD TO FOLLOW THAT ARE SIMILAR TO THESE THREE THAT HAVE CITED. WE WOULD HOPE THEN THAT TOWNHOUSES AS, AS A PRO, AS AS PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED, WOULD BE BUILT BEHIND THE 600 BLOCK OF OF LEE STREET. SAHA HAS CITED A CONCESSION THAT THEY'VE MADE TO MAKE THOSE, UH, UH, APARTMENTS THAT THEY'VE PROPOSED BEHIND 600 LEE STREET IN A LAYER SETBACK FASHION. THREE STORIES TO FOUR STORIES TO FIVE STORIES. THEY'VE SHOWN YOU A VERY NICE, UH, PERSPECTIVE LOOKING THROUGH A TUNNEL WITH LEE HOUSES ON ONE SIDE AND THE FACADE OF A BUILDING ON THE OTHER. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I HAVE 180 DEGREE PERIPHERAL VISION. WHAT LEE LEE NEIGHBORS WILL SEE EVERY MORNING WHEN THEY LEAVE THEIR HOUSES IS, AS I I DESCRIBED EARLIER, BATTLESHIP SITTING NEXT TO SOME HOUSEBOATS RELATIVE TO TRAFFIC. THEY SITE, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT THEY'VE REARRANGED THE EXIT ON SANTOS STREET. THAT WAS A GREAT CHANGE. IT IT PROBABLY COST 'EM A HUNDRED BUCKS TO MAKE IT. THEY BASICALLY JUST MOVE THE ENTRANCE FOR ON A PARKING GARAGE. IT DOES DO A LOT TO RELIEVE TRAFFIC ON REFUGIO, HOWEVER, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TRAFFIC ON LEE STREET. THEIR OWN TRAFFIC STUDY, AS CALEB POINTED OUT, UH, INCREASES TRAFFIC ON LEE STREET BY SIXFOLD, WHICH DURING DAYLIGHT HOURS AMOUNTS TO SOMETHING LIKE ONE CAR EVERY 15 SECONDS AND FU GO. IT AMOUNTS TO SOMETHING LIKE ONE CAR EVERY 10 SECONDS. THEY SITE MANY OTHER CONSTRUCTIONS. FOR EXAMPLE, THE CHANGE FROM THE MARKET RATE AND AFFORDABLE RATIO. WE NEVER [01:25:01] ASKED FOR THAT. WE EXPECT TOWN HOMES TO BE AFFORDABLE. THEY'VE CHANGED THEM ALL TO MARKET RATE. WE ARE NOT OPPOSED, AS MANY PEOPLE HAVE SAID TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE ARE VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF IT. THAT'S WHY WE MOVED SOUTHBOUND. THEY, THEY CITED PREVIOUSLY, UH, THE PROSPECT OF SAVING TREES, WHICH WE HAD. THEY, THEY SAID THAT WE HAD REQUESTED THAT THEY SAVE TREES AND THEREFORE THEY REARRANGED SOME OF THEIR PROJECT. I DID NOT KNOW THAT SAVING TREES WAS A CONCESSION BY THE CITY. WE HAD TO SAVED TREES ON LEE STREET. MANY OF 'EM, WE HAD REDESIGNED OUR HOUSES AND IN FACT, SEVERAL TIMES NOW, MR. MCKNIGHT HAS SAID THAT WE HAVE TWO AND THREE STORY HOUSES ON LEE STREET. WE HAVE ONE THREE STORY HOUSE. THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT HALF OF THE LOT IS OCCUPIED BY A LARGE TREE. ALL THE REST ARE TWO STORY HOUSES. THEY DECIDED THAT THEY'VE GIVEN UP ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. LEMME GET UP THAT THEY'VE CONCEDED ON CONCEDED ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES BY REMOVING THOSE. WELL, THEY HAD COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES IN TWO APARTMENT BUILDINGS ON, ON, ON, UH, LABOR STREET EARLY ON, WHICH THEY REMOVED. WE LIKED THOSE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. IN FACT, WE WERE EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED WHEN THEY CHOSE TO TEAR DOWN THE Y M C A, WHICH MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS USED FOR DAYCARE AND NOT PROVIDE SOME KIND OF, UH, WAY FOR THAT Y M C A TO RECO RELOCATE IN THE NEW, UH, DEVELOPMENT. OF COURSE, IT'S BEEN CITED EARLIER, PARKING IS VERY MUCH A CONCERN FOR US AND WE, WE ARE CONCERNED THAT NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO, UH, WHAT, WHAT YOU ALL FOLKS DECIDE TO DO WITH THIS ZONING, UH, PROPOSAL THAT THEY'RE GONNA GO FREE RENTALS RELATIVE TO PARKING. IN SUMMARY, WE HAVE NEVER BEEN NEGOTIATED WITH SERIOUSLY. THEY HAVE NEVER MEED TO US THE SPECIAL CONDITIONS, UH, REGARDING ARTISAN PARK LEGAL CONDITIONS. THEY HAVE NEVER ONCE DEFENDED THEIR NON DISCLOSURE TO LEE STREET OR EVEN MENTIONED IT. AND AS A CONSEQUENCE IN THE SPIRIT OF NEGOTIATION, WE HAVE SOME IDEAS FOR THEM THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT FORWARD IF THEY'RE WILLING TO COME TO THE TABLE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU MR. PERKINS. SPEAKER, WE HAVE VOICEMAILS NEXT. OKAY, LET'S BEGIN WITH THE VOICEMAILS PLEASE. HI, MY NAME IS ABBY DUBAY AND I LIVE AT 5 5 9 LEE STREET ON THE CORNER OF LEE STREET AND MCMILLAN PLACE. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (832) 729-7834 AND I'M CALLING REGARDING THE CASE ENDING IN 2 2 3. THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT WILL BE CATTYCORNER FROM MY HOUSE WHEN WE PURCHASED OUR LOT TO BUILD OUR HOME AND SET OUR FAMILY, WE CHOSE TO BUY ON A NEW NEIGHBORHOOD STREET, NOT A MAIN FAFA, AND SAW FROM THE PREVIOUS PLANS WITH THE CITY. THAT'S A LOT BEHIND US WHERE TO BE ATTACHED TOWN HOME. SAHA IN THE CITY TOLD US THEY WANTED A NICE STEP DOWN TRANSITION FROM THE APARTMENT, FROM CHAVEZ TO THE ATTACHED TOWN HOME TO OUR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON HER STYLE LOTS, AND THEN STEPPING DOWN INTO THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD. I THOUGHT THIS WAS A GREAT PLAN WITH WONDERFUL FORESIGHT IN TRANSITIONING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. NOW WE'RE THESE APARTMENTS, THEY'RE NO LONGER OFFERING. THE TRANSITION THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED WHEN WE BOUGHT THE MAJOR CHANGE IS THE BIG DEPARTURE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD INTEGRITY THAT THEY WERE ORIGINALLY TOUTED IN THE PLANTS FOR THIS AREA. MY MAIN CONCERN WITH THIS PLAN RIGHT NOW IS TRAFFIC. I LIVE IN THE CORNER, SO I'LL FEEL A HUGE IMPACT ON THE BUSINESS USING OF THE STREETS THAT THIS WILL COST. THE WAY THE PLANS CURRENTLY STAND FOR HIGH DENSITY, WE ARE LOOKING AT ADDING HUNDREDS OF CARS COMING DOWN TWO SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS EVERY DAY. THESE ARE TWO SMALL STREETS THAT BARELY PARKING ON BOTH SIDES, LET ALONE TRAFFIC COME TWO WAYS AT THAT VOLUME. THE HOMES, YOU HAVE FAMILIES AND CHILDREN THAT WANT TO BE ABLE TO PLAY IN THEIR FRONT YARD, INCLUDING MY ONE YEAR OLD. WE GO FOR WALKS DOWN THE STREET DAILY AND TALK WITH OUR NEIGHBORS. IF MY SMALL, SMALL CORNER TURNED INTO SUCH A HEAVILY TRAFFIC ROAD, AS THESE PLANS WILL DO, HOW CAN I FEEL THAT IT'S SAFE FOR HIM TO PLAY OR WALK AROUND? LIKE I SAID EARLIER, I [01:30:01] BOUGHT MY HOME TO LIVE ON A RESIDENTIAL STREET, NOT A MEAN THOROUGHFARE. I FEEL THAT SAHA HAS NOT LISTENED TO THE CONCERNS OF THE RESIDENTS WHOSE HOME DIRECTLY HAS BOUGHT THE PROJECT. AND I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT THE BAIT AND SWITCH THAT HAS HAPPENED WITH THIS PLAN. I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO DEVELOP THIS LAND AND I KNEW THAT WHEN I BOUGHT, BUT I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE NEW NEED TO BRING SUCH VOLUME TO THE SMALL AREA AND THE DISRUPTION THAT THIS WOULD BRING TO THE INTEGRITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE LIVES OF THOSE DIRECTLY. SO WE'RE HAVING IT. THANKS. HELLO, THIS IS ADRIAN AT FIVE THREE ONE LEE STREET, PHONE NUMBER (505) 818-8348. THIS IS FOR CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 2 0 7 0 2 2 3. I'M CALLING IN TO PROVIDE INPUT TO THE PLANNING OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. AT THIS TIME, WE DO NOT AGREE WITH THE ZONING CHANGE. THERE'S BEEN NO PROPOSED CHANGES TO TRANSPORTATION AND PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND AS OWNER OF A LEASE STREET PROPERTY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE FEEDBACK AND SOLUTIONS BASED ON PARKING AND STREET EXTENSION. SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SHOULD CONSIDER THE IMPACT AND PRESERVE AND ENHANCED DOWNTOWN AUTHENTICITY NOT DESTROYED FOR SAKE OF BUSINESS, THERE SHOULD BE A SAFE AND INVITING GATEWAY AT THE DOWNTOWN AREA FROM BOTH SURFACE STREETS AND HIGHWAYS. I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AND PROVIDE THE COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SAN ANTONIO A BETTER PLACE TO GROW AND LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE HAVE CREATED. I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND ADDRESSING THESE CONCERNS. HELLO, THIS IS AUSTIN BOHART AT FIVE ONE TWO REFUGIO STREET. UH, PHONE NUMBER (210) 393-6891 CALLING IN REFERENCE TO THE CASE BEING HEARD TODAY, AUGUST 17TH. UH, LAST THREE BEING 2 2 3. I WANTED TO STATE MY OPPOSITION TO THE I D C E THREE ZONING FOR THE VACANT RETENTION POND AREAS, NORTH AND SOUTH POND. CURRENT ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE DOESN'T REALLY PERMIT SUCH A LARGE INFLUX OF TRAFFIC. UM, THE ROADS ARE REALLY ONLY WIDE ENOUGH FOR A SINGLE VEHICLE AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS COMPLETED, UH, TO SUPPORT THE REZONING EFFORT WAS ACTUALLY COMPLETED DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE CORONAVIRUS, MAKING IT PRETTY MUCH COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT TO WHAT THE, UH, REALISTIC DAY-TO-DAY TRAFFIC LOOKS LIKE. UM, ADDITIONALLY, THE AREA ITSELF I DON'T THINK SUPPORTS THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO CRAM INTO THIS SMALL, SMALL SPACE. SO THAT IS MY OPPOSITION. AUSTIN BOHART, FIVE ONE TWO GIO STREET, PHONE NUMBER (210) 393-6891. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS CARL FROM BROWN. I'M AT 5 0 2 REFUGIO STREET, UH, 7 8 2 1 0 IN A LAVACCA AREA, AND I AM COMPLETELY OPPOSED TO THE, UH, PARKING AND ALSO TRAFFIC, UH, UH, ISSUES. UH, CASE NUMBER ZONING, CASE NUMBER, UM, Z AS IN ZEBRA, 2020 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 2 2 3, WHICH IS THE LAST THREE NUMBERS, 2, 2, 3. BUT I'M COMPLETELY OPPOSED TO, UH, GOING, MOVING FORWARD WITH ANY, UH, NEW ZONING ISSUES UNTIL YOU KNOW, THE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, JUST DUE TO THE TRAFFIC, UH, ISSUES THAT IT'S GOING TO CROSS IN THIS AREA. THANK YOU. I'M AT (210) 542-7662 IS MY TELEPHONE NUMBER. BYE. HI, THIS IS EDDIE ALDI. I LIVE AT FIVE 19 LEE STREET. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 268-2484. I AM CALLING TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO ITEM AGENDA FOUR ON VICTORIA COMMONS. REZONING, THE ISSUES ARE TWOFOLD. ARE MULTIPLE ACTUALLY, UH, LETTING THEM GO TO IZ TWO, IDZ TWO AND IDZ THREE WOULD A GIVE THEM THE RIGHT TO INCREASE THEIR HEIGHTS ABOVE WHAT WAS CURRENTLY PLANNED AND IT WOULD ALSO GET, ALLOW THEM TO WAIVE 50% OF THE PARKING REQUIREMENT. THIS IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE AS MOUNT ZION W TURNS INTO AN ALLEY, WHICH CANNOT ONLY ACCOMMODATE ONE CAR AT A TIME DIRECTLY BEHIND OUR HOUSE. ALSO, THE TRAFFIC ON LEE STREET FROM THE NEW APARTMENTS ARE GONNA BE BILLED ON THE RETAINING BONDS WOULD ALSO HAVE TO COME TO LEE STREET. ALTHOUGH THEY ARE SAYING THAT, UH, THEY'RE GONNA EXTEND SANTOS, THAT'S GONNA BE JUST TO THE PARKING LOT. I WOULD LIKE THE COMMISSIONERS TO FOLLOW, ASK A FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON EXACTLY [01:35:01] HOW MANY UNITS ARE GONNA BE BUILT ON EACH PARCEL BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT GIVEN US THOSE DETAILS AND WE THOUGHT WE WERE ENTITLED TO THOSE DETAILS. AGAIN, I'M VOTING IN OPPOSITION SIMPLY FOR TRAFFIC HAZARDS AND PUBLIC SAFETY. THESE SLOTS WERE ALREADY DEVELOPED AND ZONE FOUR TOWNHOUSES, THEY MAY JUST INCREASE AND CHANGE OF PLANS COMPLETELY IF YOU ALLOW THEM TO. REZONE TO I D Z TWO AND I DO Z THREE. THANK YOU. UH, MY NAME IS JEFFREY. I'M AT 6 26 LEE STREET NUMBER 8 3 2 4 4 3 5 7 1 3. I'M CALLING REGARDING THE VICTORIA COMMONS, UH, PROJECT, THE SAHA PROJECT, UH, DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE VCA NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, MY CONCERN, AND I BELIEVE THE ONE OF THE LARGEST NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS HAS TO DO WITH THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ON A QUIET RESIDENTIAL STREET AND LEE STREET, LET'S FACE IT, IS A QUIET RESIDENTIAL STREET. IT'S WIDTH, IT'S DESIGN, AND IT'S ADJACENT LAND USES ALL SUGGEST. IT IS A RESIDENTIAL STREET DESIGNED TO SERVE THOSE RESIDENCIES AND RESIDENCES AND VISITORS ALONG THAT STREET. THE TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE GENERATED BY A, A DENSER DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BE IMMEDIATELY NORTH AND WOULD BE IN MANY RESPECTS FORCED TO FUNNEL THROUGH LEE STREET, WOULD HAVE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S A SIMPLE SOLUTION FOR THAT, WHICH IS TO EXTEND MCDONALD, MCDONALD'S, MCAL STREET TO, UH, TO LABOR STREET AND PROVIDE AN ALTERNATE ACCESS. AND I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE THAT, ESPECIALLY BASED UPON THE DENSITIES THAT ARE ARE PLANNED. I DON'T THINK THE COMMUNITY HAS A HUGE, UH, WE, UH, UNDERSTOOD DENSITY WAS COMING. THERE ARE SEVERAL CONCERNS ABOUT THE FORM OF THAT DENSITY CONCERN TODAY IS ABOUT WHAT THE IMPACTS ON PARKING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND TRAFFIC ON IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE. AND I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT A SOLUTION OF ADDING AN ADDITIONAL EXIT POINT FOR THOSE THAT LIVE IN THAT DEVELOPMENT BE, UH, IMPLEMENTED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT ALSO PROVIDES FOLKS ACCESS TO VIA AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS JIM BAILEY AND MY ADDRESS IS TWO FORTY ONE KING WILLIAM TELEPHONE NUMBER (210) 542-6669. I'M CALLING TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR REZONING AS PROPOSED AND, UH, ZONING CASE NUMBER 2, 2 3. ITEM NUMBER FOUR ON THE AGENDA FOR TUESDAY, AUGUST 17TH, 2021. SINCE THE DISPLACEMENT OF OVER 600 LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS WITH THE DEMOLITION OF VICTORIA COURTS IN THE LATE NINETIES, THE SURROUNDING AREAS SEEN AN INCREASE IN HOUSING PRICES AT A RATE GREATER THAN ANYWHERE ELSE IN SAN ANTONIO, CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN. LOWER PAYING SERVICE, LOWER PAYING SERVICE JOBS. THIS AREA HAS BECOME INACCESSIBLE TO ALL BUT THE WEALTHIEST OF OUR FELLOW CITIZENS. I SUPPORT THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING AUTHORITIES DRIVE TO PROVIDE AS MUCH AFFORDABILITY AS CAN BE MUSTERED ON THE REMAINING LAND OF THIS FORMER PUBLIC HOUSING PROJECT. FURTHERMORE, WHILE THERE WILL LIKELY BE AN INCREASE IN BOTH VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC ON THE STREETS OF THE FORMER PUBLIC HOUSING PROJECT, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS WALKABLE AND TIED INTO PUBLIC TRANSIT SYSTEMS. BUILDING MASS AGAINST THE HIGHWAY IS PROPOSED, WILL PROVIDE SUBSTANTIAL AIR QUALITY AND NOISE REDUCTION BENEFITS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEYOND. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS JUAN GONZALEZ. I'M CALLING FROM 6 5 5 LEE STREET. UH, CASE NUMBER IS 0 6 3. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE ZONING COMMISSION. WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH, THEY'RE DOING TWO DIFFERENT ZONING COMMISSIONS ON SAME LAND WITH THE, UH, PROPERTY OVER ON MOUNTAIN ZION WALK ADJACENT TO I 37. THAT AREA IS VERY CONGESTED AND THERE IS NO STREET ENTRY OR EXIT FOR OTHER THAN RESIDENTIAL PEOPLE THERE. THE PROBLEM WE'RE HAVING IS THAT THE CONSTRUCTION, THE WORKERS, THE ONCOMING RESIDENTS OF ALL THESE APARTMENTS HAVE BEEN, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE ISSUES. THERE IS NO WAY AROUND IT. THERE IS, UH, EGRESS AND INGRESS IS JUST GONNA BE TOO OBSTRUCTED. CAN YOU PLEASE LOOK INTO THIS? CONTACT ME BACK IF YOU CAN. MY NUMBER IS UP ALSO ANOTHER CASE NUMBER ADDITIONALLY, I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD ON CASE 2, 2 3. UH, WE'RE HAVING ISSUES WITH THE SAME THING OF THE DOUBLE DIPPING. OKAY, JUST PUTTING, YEAH, WE'RE TRYING TO ZONE IT REZONE IN A DIFFERENT WAY FOR THE SAME TYPE OF, UH, RESIDENTIAL ZONING INFORMATION. THANKS. I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONTACT ME AT 2 1 0 5 4 8 4 9 4 2. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. UH, THIS IS, UH, JUAN FERNANDO ORTEGA. UH, I'M CALLING ABOUT CASE NUMBER, UH, Z 20 21 0 7 0 0 2 2 3. UH, I SAID, UH, THIS IS JUAN [01:40:01] FERNANDO ORTEGA. I LIVE AT 6 1 5, UH, LEE STREET, UH, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. UM, I'M RESPONDING TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST, UH, THAT WAS MAILED TO ME. CONCERNING THIS CASE. I AM IN OPPOSITION OF THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST AS AS IT IN ITS CURRENT STATE. I'M THE OWNER OF RESIDENCE OF A PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO ONE OF THE AREAS, UH, THAT IS PROPOSED AS BEING CHANGED TO I D Z THREE A H O D. MY REASONS FOR OPPOSING THE ZONING CHANGE ARE, ARE THE FOLLOWING. THE CURRENT STREET INFRASTRUCTURE DOES NOT SUPPORT IDENTITY DEVELOPMENT SO DEEP WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL AREA. THERE ARE ONLY TWO CONNECTION POINTS BEING FU AND LEE STREET TO ROUTE, UH, TRAFFIC FROM THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT BACK TO LABOR STREET, WHICH IS THE CLOSEST COLLECTOR STREET. BOTH FUO AND LEE HAVE A NARROW RIGHT OF WAY. LEE STREET, WHICH IS EVEN NARROW, WHICH IS THE NARROWEST OF THE STREET, CURRENTLY SUPPORTS ONLY ONE LANE OF TRAFFIC. WHEN CARS ARE PARKED ALONG IT, UH, THAT CAN CLEARLY BE OBSERVED. THIS HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT, UH, WOULD BE A CONSIDERABLE DISTANCE FROM THE NEAREST AVAILABLE MASS TRANSIT, WHICH IS CURRENTLY ONLY ALONG LABOR STREET PROPOSING HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT, SO DEEP WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA IS INCONSISTENT WITH THIS. THE CITY'S SA TOMORROW DOWNTOWN AREA REGIONAL CENTER PLAN. UH, THESE ARE SOME DIRECT BELOW WHICH, UH, HIGHLIGHTS THIS, THIS, UH, INCONSISTENCY QUOTE. THIS FORM OF DEVELOPMENT IS TYPICALLY LOCATED ALONG OR NEAR MAJOR ARTERIAL OR COLLECTORS. HIGH DENSITY MULTIFAMILY USES SHOULD BE LOCATED IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO TRANSIT FACILITIES. END QUOTE. ANOTHER QUOTE IS, UM, HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES SHOULD BE LOCATED IN A MANNER. THIS IS FOR PA 20 20 11 6,063. MY NAME IS LATASHA DUNN. I LIVE AT 6 4 8 LEE STREET. OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS, THERE HAS BEEN AN INFLUX OF DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS IMPACTED VIEWS, TRAFFIC, PARKING, AND A, A WAY OF LIFE IN A POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE WAY. TRAFFIC AND PARKING ISSUES WILL INCREASE AS I HAVE WATCHED IT GROW. AS YOU PRESS FORWARD WITH YOUR DEVELOPMENT, CAN YOU INCLUDE A PLAN TO RECO RELOCATE THE CITY ON UTILITY POLE THAT PREVENTS ME FROM PARKING ALONG MY FENCE LINE. ONCE THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE COMMUNITY IS COMPLETE, PARKING NEAR MY HOME WILL BE A CHALLENGE. THE LITTLE PSEUDO DRIVEWAY IN MY YARD LEADS TO PLUMBING THAT I'M GOING TO BE FORCED TO PARK ON IF THE UTILITY POLE IS NOT RELOCATED. HELLO, THIS MESSAGE IS FROM LUISA STACY. SHE, I LIVE AT 6 43 LEE STREET AND I'M CALLING ABOUT THE NOTICE OF ZONING COMMISSION CASE NUMBER 1 0 7 0 0 2 2 3 AND CASE NUMBER ENDING N 0 6 3. WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE ZONING COMMISSIONS GOING ON FOR THE SAME, INCLUDING THE SAME PROPERTY. I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE, UH, DECEITFUL HERE AND I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT THAT YOU PUT AT TWO DIFFERENT TIMES THE SAME AGENDA. ALSO, THERE IS NO WAY THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH PARTS FOR THIS PLACE OR FOR ANY KIND OF TRAFFIC. IT'S ALREADY CONGESTED AND THE STREETS ARE SMALLER THAN CAROLINA STREET AND FLORIDA STREET, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR IT. ON TOP OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, WE'LL BE HAVING PLENTY OF KIDS THAT'LL BE IN THE AREA, WHICH WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CROSS STREET. YOU COULD CALL 2 1 0 9 1 2 4 7 4 8. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. AGAIN, WE ARE AGAIN, THE ZONING. EITHER ONE OF THE ZONING CHANGES, THERE WAS TAX DOLLARS THAT PUT ALL THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IN AND IT SHOULD NOT BE ABUSED LIKE THIS. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS MARIA GONZALEZ. UM, I'M A RESIDENT AT 6 1 2 LAY STREET IN LAVACCA. UM, I'M LEAVING A MESSAGE REGARDING, UH, ZONING CASE Z 20 21 0 7 0 0 2 2 3. UH, FOR THE, THE DEVELOPMENT OF VICTORIA COMMONS. UH, MY FAMILY AND I ARE, UH, NEW RESIDENTS TO LAVACCA. WE HAVE FOUR YOUNG CHILDREN. WE ACTUALLY MOVED TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AT, UM, AT, UH, THE AS, UH, INSISTENCE OF ONE OF OUR FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES WHO ALSO HAS YOUNG CHILDREN. AND SO FAR WE LOVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE INVESTED IN, UM, [01:45:01] BIKES FOR ALL OF OUR CHILDREN AND FOR OURSELVES. WE FREQUENTLY WALK AND BIKE THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE WALKED TO THE PARK AT LABOR STREET AND WE WALKED TO HEMISPHERE AND THE WALKABILITY AND THE BIKEABILITY OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS WHAT WAS INITIALLY APPEALING TO US. THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE VICTORIA COMMONS WITHOUT PROPER PARKING OR TRAFFIC CONCERNS OR CONSIDERATIONS IS DEFINITELY A CONCERN FOR US AND OUR CHILDREN. UM, IT IS NOT AT ALL IN LINE WITH, UM, THE DRAW AND THE ALLURE OF THE BEAUTY OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND, UM, WHAT INITIALLY BROUGHT US HERE, AND IT WOULD DEFINITELY CAUSE SIGNIFICANT ISSUES FOR US AS WE ARE ON LAY STREET RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE PROPOSED AREA OF DEVELOPMENT. I REALLY AND STRONGLY URGE YOU TO RECONSIDER THIS DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT TAKING PROPER CONSIDERATION FOR THE TRAFFIC AND, UM, THE VOLUME OF CARS THAT WOULD BE GOING UP AND DOWN THIS STREET WITHOUT ANY CONSIDERATION FOR HOW THEY'RE GOING TO PARK, WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO PARK, HOW THEY'RE GONNA ENTER THE, AND EXIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, UM, THIS WOULD, THIS WOULD BE A TOTALLY, UH, FLAWED AND, AND UN UNWELCOME DEVELOPMENT TO THIS, UM, BEAUTIFUL AREA. SO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. HI, I'M MELISSA AL. I LIVE AT 2 2 4 CAROLINA STREET AND I'M SUBMITTING COMMENTS FOR THE HEARING TODAY ON CASE NUMBER 2 23. UH, WITH REGARDS TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST, I RE I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT CONCERNS AND SUGGESTIONS PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED BY THE LAVACCA RESIDENTS ARE ACCEPTED AND ADDRESSED. SPECIFICALLY, I WANNA BRING ATTENTION TO A FEW ITEMS AND THE LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. LETTER TO SAHA, OCTOBER 23RD, 2020, AND THE, UH, LAVACCA LETTER TO THE CITY ZONING COMMISSION JULY 1ST, 2021. FIRST IS PRESERVATION OF THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING IN THE PARK SPACE. UH, PARK SPACE IS A CRITICAL RESOURCE FOR QUALITY OF LIFE, HEALTH AND SAFETY. IN AREAS LIKE THIS WHERE RESIDENTS RELY ON SHARED AMENITIES, SPLITTING UP OR REMOVING ANY OF THE PARK SPACE WOULD HAVE A MAJOR NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. CURRENTLY EVERY PART OF THE PARK. THESE REGULAR USE WITH MANY NEIGHBORS RELYING ON THIS SPACE, AMENITIES LIKE PARKS ARE HOW WE KEEP OUR KIDS ENTERTAINED AND OUT OF TROUBLE, MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR PETS, GIVE US OPTIONS FOR FAMILY ACTIVITIES AND EXERCISE, AND ENSURE MORE EQUAL ACCESS TO AMENITIES FOR VARYING INCOME LEVELS. THIS IS THE ONLY SPACE LIKE IT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. ADDING ANY MORE HOUSING SHOULD ACTUALLY BOLSTER THE CASE TO KEEP 100% OF THE PARK SPACE OR EVEN TO EXPAND IT. THE SECOND ITEM THAT I WANNA HIGHLIGHT IS THE TRAFFIC PATTERNING. THE INTERSECTION OF LABOR AND CESAR CHAVEZ CONTINUES TO BE PROBLEMATIC FOR RESIDENTS REGULAR USE. THIS OFTEN RESULTS IN TRAFFIC FUNNEL SOUTH OF FLORIDA AND CAROLINA STREETS. EACH OF THESE STREETS ARE ALREADY FIGHTING FOR CALMING MEASURES TO HANDLE SPEED AND CONGESTION ISSUES. AS A NEIGHBOR WHO LIVES ON ONE OF THE MAJOR ARTERIES AND REALLY NEED TO SEE PLANNED IMPROVEMENTS TO HANDLE NEW DEVELOPMENT, I THAT IS TAKEN MY SUPPORT FOR AN UPDATED AND EXPANDED TRAFFIC STUDY FOR THE LABOR CA HAVE AS INTERSECTION TO BE ADDRESSED AS PART OF THE VICTORIA COMMONS DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO LIMIT SOUTH POND BUILDING HEIGHT TO TWO STORES AND TO IMPLEMENT A FOUR-WAY STOP SIGN AT LAY AND LABOR STREET. IN SUMMARY, UH, IT URGES THAT THE AFOREMENTIONED CONCERNS BE RESPECTFULLY CONSIDERED WITH A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THANK YOU. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 367-2904. NAME IS MELISSA SENDAL. I LIVE AT 2 2 4 CAROLINA. YES. MY NAME IS OLIVIA DEZA AND MY ADDRESS IS 300 LABOR STREET, APARTMENT FIVE THREE ONE FOUR. UM, AND MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 914-2676 AND I AM ADVOCATING AT OVER CASE NUMBER Z 2020 DASH 7 0 2 2 3. UM, ADVOCATING FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF MORE COMMUNITIES TO HELP, UM, FAMILIES LIKE MYSELF AND MY DAUGHTER JULIA. UM, SHE'S SUCCEEDING IN HER CAREER IN COLLEGE, ATTENDING TEXAS A AND M HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. AND, UM, LIVING HERE IN THIS COMMUNITY, IT HELPS HER COMMUTE TO HER COLLEGE WITHIN 15 MINUTES. UM, SHE'S ALSO A THERAPIST, A BEHAVIORAL THERAPIST FOR THE PROMISE CENTER OF AUTISM, WHICH SHE COMMUTES FROM WHERE WE LIVE AND ONLY TAKES HER 15 MINUTES. UM, LIVING HERE. IT'S REALLY HELPING HER SUCCEED. UM, AND YOU KNOW, MY OLDEST DAUGHTER IS THE DIRECTOR OF THAT PROMISE CENTER FOR AUTISM HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. UM, BECAUSE MY HUSBAND AND I ALWAYS HAVE ADVOCATED FOR OUR FOUR DAUGHTERS TO SUCCEED IN SCHOOL, UM, HE DID PASS AWAY OF A HEART ATTACK TWO YEARS AGO AND AT WHAT TIME WE DID HAVE OUR OWN HOME, UM, AND PAY TAXES AND WE KNOW WHAT IT IS TO, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE OUR OWN HOME. AND NOW I LOST MY HOME AND I'M UNDER SAN ANTONIO HOUSING. BUT PLEASE, I'M ASKING FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, UM, TO CONTINUE TO, TO PROVIDE COMMUNITIES, UM, IN HOUSING FOR FAMILIES LIKE MYSELF AND MY DAUGHTER, UM, BECAUSE SHE'S MAKING A DIFFERENCE, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE LIVES OF A LOT OF CHILDREN THAT SUFFER FROM AUTISM [01:50:01] BECAUSE WE LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITIES AND THIS IS KIND OF LIKE HELPING US, UM, TO GET BACK ON OUR FEET. UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT DIAGNOSED WITH COVID IN JANUARY AND MY HEART AND MY LUNGS ARE NOT DOING WELL, SO GETTING SPECIALIST HELP FROM A PULMONARY SPECIALIST AND A CARDIOLOGIST. AND IT'S CONVENIENT TO LIVE HERE BECAUSE MY DOCTORS ARE DOWNTOWN AND I'M ABLE TO USE IT VIA BUS DURING THE DAY WHILE MY DAUGHTER'S AT WORK. AND, HI, MY NAME'S PRIYA PRASAD. UM, AND I LIVE IN THE ARTISAN PARK TOWNHOUSES. I'M CALLING WITH RESPECT TO THE, UM, ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FOR THE AREA LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF MOUNT ZION WALK AND I H 37 SOUTH. CURRENTLY, THIS IS A STORMWATER RETENTION POND, UM, AND WAS ORIGINALLY ZONED TO BE TOWNHOUSES BECAUSE THE ARTISAN PARK, UH, COMMUNITY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE 120 TOWNHOUSES INSTEAD OF THE ONLY 22 THAT WERE BUILT. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IN FACT, VERY CLOSE TO ME WOULD BE FINE. UM, BUT THE CONCERNS I HAVE FIRST IS THAT IS STORM WATER RETENTION. UM, AND IT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING, SOMETHING A SOLUTION IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE ENGINEERED TO ADDRESS THAT. AND I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT I NEED TO TAKE IT ON BASE, THAT IT'S GOING TO BE OKAY AND THAT OUR QUOTE, OUR ENGINEERS SAY IT'S OKAY. I'D LIKE TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION AND SPECIFICS ABOUT THAT. UM, THE SECOND PART IS PART FOR THIS, UM, COMPLEX AND THE PROPOSED ONE, UM, ON REFUGIO STREET. UM, IN THE NORTH, UH, STORMWATER RETENTION POND, THERE'S GOING TO BE TWO STREETS THAT ARE CURRENTLY VERY SLEEPY STREETS AS OUTLET. THESE HIGH DENSITY APARTMENTS AT THE MOMENT, ESPECIALLY ON GIO, WE HAVE A LOT OF KIDS WHO GO FROM THE GIO POLICE DEPARTMENTS CROSS GIO AND GO TO THE LABOR STREET PARK PLAY. UM, WE SEE PETS OUT THERE. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON THOSE STREETS, AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT MAKES THIS SUCH A LIKE NICE COMMUNITY AND THAT IF THERE AREN'T MORE OUTLETS, UM, BUILT INTO THESE APARTMENTS SO PEOPLE CAN LEAVE THROUGH OTHER MEANS AND IT'S MORE EFFICIENT FOR THEM TO LEAVE THE APARTMENT. MY NAME IS ROBERT SIERRE. I LIVE AT 6 2 3 ELISE STREET IN LAVACCA. I'M CALLING REGARDING CASE NUMBER ZERO ZERO TWO TWO THREE. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (281) 216-7864. I'M CALLING ABOUT THE PROPOSED VICTORIA COMMONS DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AND THE FACT THAT IT LACKS COMMITMENTS TO SUFFICIENT PARKING AND TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE, IF BUILT MORE THAN 500 UNITS WILL BE ADDED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE LARGEST CONCENTRATION OF THE RESIDENTS OCCUPYING TWO LARGE BUILDINGS NESTED AGAINST 1 37. ALL RESIDENTS WOULD EITHER HAVE TO USE LEE STREET OR REFUSE YET TO ENTER AN EXIT NEIGHBORHOOD. THESE STREETS ARE TOO NARROW AND THEY'RE INADEQUATE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT WILL BE PUT ON, UH, BY THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S BEING PROPOSED. WE HAVE ASKED MULTIPLE TIMES FOR, UH, CATAL AND SAHA TO EXTEND MCMONAGLE STREET INTO LABOR STREET THAT WOULD GIVE US THREE AVENUES OF ACCESS. SO FAR, WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY PROGRESS AND WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT, UH, THEY SAID THAT THE RESIDENTS APPROVE OF THE PROJECT. HOWEVER, WE DO NOT, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY'VE BEEN TALKING TO, UM, THEY'VE NOT BEEN FORTHCOMING. THE PROJECT HAS CHANGED PLANS MANY TIMES. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME AGREEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS TO, UH, PROVIDING PROPER ACCESS FOR TRAFFIC. SO UNTIL THEN WE ARE ASKING THAT THE ZONING COMMISSION, WE DENY THE ZONING REQUEST FOR ZONING CASE IS A 20 21 0 7 0 0 2 2 3 UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT WE CAN WORK OUT THESE ISSUES. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS STEVE YOUNG AND I LIVE AT SIX OH SEVEN LEE STREET. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 589-1059. I'M HERE TO ADDRESS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 24, THE DEVELOPMENT OF VICTORIA COMMONS. AS A SAN ANTONIO RESIDENT, I TRULY LOVE TO SEE ALL THE POSITIVE CHANGES HAPPENING AROUND SAN ANTONIO. AND I FEEL THAT THE OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE THE VACANT VICTORIA COMMONS LAND IS VERY IMPORTANT TO VOTE DOWNTOWN IN LA VAPA. AND WHILE I BELIEVE THAT ELLA IS HIRED BY SAHA TO DESIGN THE NEW DEVELOPMENT, HAS TAKEN GREAT STRIDES TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY. THERE ARE SOME GAPING OMISSIONS FROM ANYTHING THAT HAS BEEN BEEN PRESENTED TODAY TO THE LE BACA COMMUNITY. WHAT WERE ORIGINALLY PLANNED TO BE DENSE TOWN HOMES, WHICH ARE AN APPROPRIATE WAY TO POSITION DENSE MULTI-STORY TOWN HOME PROPERTIES 30 FEET FROM THE CURRENT DENSE SIGNAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IS NOW BEING PROPOSED TO BE A MASSIVE ULTRA DENSE FIVE-STORY APARTMENT BUILDING [01:55:01] ABOUT 30 FEET FROM SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. FIRSTLY, THE DENSITY AND HEIGHT OF APARTMENTS ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IS NOT WHAT THE COMMUNITY BOUGHT AND DEVELOPED INTO. THERE WAS A CLEAR PLAN WITH UTILITIES ALREADY, ALREADY INSTALLED AND READY FOR DENSE MULTI-STORY TOWN HOMES, WHICH WOULD SERVE TO PROVIDE A DENSE AND APPROPRIATE TRANSITION TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. DESPITE THE ONGOING CONCERNS OF RESIDENTS, WE'VE SEEN VERY LITTLE MOVEMENT BY SAHA IN ADDRESSING OUR CONCERNS. THIS DRASTIC CHANGE IS JUST SAHA TRYING TO BUILD MUCH DENSER TO CHASE NEEDED REVENUE WITHOUT REGARD TO THE CONTINUITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S OLDEST NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY HAVE SAID AS MUCH AT A MEETING WITH LAVACCA RESIDENTS. SECONDLY, LEE STREET RESIDENTS ALREADY SEE A DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF RATHER HIGH SPEED TRAFFIC ON OUR STREET, MUCH OF WHICH IS ALREADY CUTTING THROUGH TO GO TO EXISTING APARTMENTS ON VICTORIA COMMONS. WITH THE CITY HAVING DONE NOTHING TO TODAY TO ADDRESS THE HIGH-SPEED AND RECKLESS TRAVEL DOWN A RESIDENTIAL STREET FULL OF BICYCLES, FAMILIES AND CHILDREN, ADDING A MASSIVE APARTMENT BUILDING JUST SPEED AWAY FROM LEE STREET WITH AN OPEN CONNECTING ROAD WILL GUARANTEE THAT WHAT SHOULD BE ACQUIRED LOW SPEED RESIDENTIAL STREET WILL BE FILLED WITH SPEEDING CARS AND TRUCKS COMING THROUGH TO THE NEW, NEW DEVELOPMENT. THE DEVELOPMENT SHOULD FUNNEL TRAFFIC ONLY THROUGH. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE SIGNED IN TO SPEAK, SIR. THANK YOU MR. MCKNIGHT. REBUTTAL. . THANK YOU. UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS A LOT COVERED, SO I'M GONNA TRY TO BE BRIEF IN THIS REBUTTAL, BUT I'LL START WITH, UH, THE PARKING. I MEAN THERE IT'S BEEN ADDRESSED MANY TIMES THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE ADEQUATE PARKING. WE ARE PROVIDING ADEQUATE PARKING. WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE PREPARED TO PUT AS PART OF OUR ZONING ORDINANCE THAT WE WOULD HAVE AT LEAST 1.3 UH, PARKING SPACES PER UNIT FOR THOSE, UM, NONS SINGLE FAMILY UNITS. BUT, UH, WE ARE DEFINITELY PROVIDING THE PARKING MUCH MORE THAN IS REQUIRED UNDER I D Z. UM, THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS ARE ACT OBVIOUSLY COME UP A LOT. THE, THE QUESTION IS NOT WHETHER OR NOT TRAFFIC IS GONNA INCREASE. THIS IS DEVELOPMENT. WE KNOW TRAFFIC IS GONNA INCREASE. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT THE STREETS THAT ARE THERE CAN HANDLE THE CAPACITY OF THAT INCREASED TRAFFIC. IT CAN, IT'S DESIGNED FOR THAT. THERE ARE STREETS ALL AROUND US THAT HAVE STREETS OF THE SAME SIZE THAT CAN HANDLE THAT CAPACITY. AND THE CITY IS HERE THAT HAVE A U D C THAT, THAT, THAT REQUIRES US TO FOLLOW THAT TO WHETHER OR NOT WE MEET THOSE STANDARDS IN THE U D C AND WE DO. THE TRAFFIC RIGHT NOW IS LOWER THAN YOU WOULD OTHERWISE EXPECT BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN FULLY DEVELOPED YET. SO IF YOU DO A TRAFFIC STUDY RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE NOT SEEING WHAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED VERSUS WHAT WE'RE GONNA DEVELOP. YOU'RE SEEING WHAT HASN'T FINISHED YET VERSUS WHAT WILL DEVELOP. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SIX TIMES. ANY STUDY THAT WE HAD DONE EARLIER HAD DONE, HAD LOOKED AT THE 830 UNITS THAT WE WERE PLANNING AT THAT TIME, NOT THE 440 THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW. SO CIRCUMSTANCES HAVE CHANGED AND I GET THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE UPSET, ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT ARE CLOSELY MOST CLOSELY AFFECTED. THOSE ON LEE STREET ARE THE ONES THAT ARE CLOSEST TO IT, AND THAT'S A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT YOU HEARD FROM AND WHO WOULDN'T FEEL THAT WAY. IF YOU'RE CLOSEST TO IT, YOU GET MOST AFFECTED. BUT CHANGE IS, THE CHANGE THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING IS DIFFICULT, BUT IT'S ONE, AS A SOCIETY, AS A GROUP IN THE CITY HAVE ADOPTED AS A POLICY THAT WE'RE ALL GONNA BEAR THE BRUNT OF THAT. IT'S A POLICY. WE ADOPTED AN ESSAY TOMORROW THAT THINGS CAN'T STAY THE WAY THEY ARE, THAT THINGS DO HAVE TO CHANGE IN TERMS OF DENSITY AND WHERE WE INFILL, WE ALL DECIDED AS A CITY THAT THIS WAS GONNA BE IT. AND SOMETIMES THAT MEANS THAT CHANGE IS UNCOMFORTABLE AND DIFFICULT, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE ALL DECIDED. AND HERE WE ARE TRYING TO LIVE THAT OUT AND GIVE THAT THOSE PEOPLE HOUSING THAT NEED IT. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND, AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WAS PLANNED THERE IN THE PAST AND WHAT'S NOW CHANGE. I'M GONNA BRING IT UP AGAIN. A REZONING IS, IS RE IS ALLOWED WHEN YOU LOOK AT CHANGED CIRCUMSTANCES. THAT'S WHAT WHAT YOU LOOK AT IN A REZONING. HAS, HAS THERE BEEN A CHANGE IN CIRCUMSTANCES ENOUGH TO WARRANT THIS? ARE WE CONSISTENT WITH THE DOWNTOWN AREA? WE'RE LOOKING AT A DOWNTOWN PROJECT FOR A MID-RISE, UM, MULTIFAMILY APARTMENT SITE MIXED IN WITH TOWN HOMES AND, UH, SOME MULTIPLEX. SO YES, WE, WE ARE, WE WE MEET THE SURROUNDING AREA. UM, WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO MEET THE CODE AS IT IS REQUIRED OF US. UM, THERE'S A LARGE PUBLIC POLICY ISSUE HERE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MEET. WE MEET ALL OF THOSE THINGS. THIS IS THE CHANGED CIRCUMSTANCE AND THIS IS A CASE WHERE THAT REZONING IS WARRANTED AND I, I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU MR. MCKNIGHT. AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLEASE KEEP THE COMMENTARY TO YOURSELVES. UH, PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL OF SPEAKERS AND THE COMMISSION. THANK YOU. LET ME ASK COMMISSIONERS, ANYONE NEED A BREAK OR CAN WE KEEP GOING? YEP. OKAY, LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK. UM, WE WILL RECONVENE. THE TIME IS 3 0 6. WE'LL RECONVENE AT APPROXIMATELY THREE 11. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE ARE ABOUT THERE. IF WE COULD START TO TAKE OUR SEATS AGAIN, I'D APPRECIATE IT. [02:00:02] I MIGHT HAVE TO SCARE UP SOME COMMISSIONERS, SO BEAR WITH ME. CJ. YES. HMM. SO I SEE COMMISSIONER MCGEE AND COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, THE FOUR OF Y'ALL. THAT'S SIX. ALRIGHT. UM, ALRIGHT. WE WILL NOTE WHEN COMMISSIONER WHITE SHOWS UP. ALRIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE TIME IS THREE 12 AND WE ARE GONNA GO BACK ON THE RECORD FOR TODAY'S ZONING COMMISSION HEARING. UM, THIS IS A DISTRICT ONE CASE AND NORMALLY IT WOULD GO TO COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, BUT SHE HAS RECUSED HERSELF. AND SO IN THIS CASE IT WILL GO TO COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. THANK YOU. UM, SO FIRST LET ME THANK MY COLLEAGUE, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE FOR, UH, THIS UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY HERE. UH, HAVING COME IN ON THIS CASE, UH, KIND OF AT A LAST MINUTE POSITION. I FEEL SOMETIMES THAT I'VE KIND OF MISSED A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I HAVE RECEIVED, RECEIVED COMMENTS AND I'M APPRECIATIVE OF THAT AND I'M APPRECIATIVE OF THE APPLICANT'S, UH, BRIEFING THAT I RECEIVED. UM, I THINK WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS HEAR WHAT MY COLLEAGUES OR WHAT QUESTIONS MY COLLEAGUES MIGHT HAVE FIRST BEFORE I MAKE MY MOTION AND WE BEGIN COMMENTS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. NOW WE'RE GONNA START IN THE ROOM. UH, COMMISSIONER WHITE, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, FOR JAMES. UH, ACTUALLY BEFORE YOU DO THAT, I'M GONNA NOTE THAT COMMISSIONER WHITE RETURNED TO THE, UH, COMMISSION MEETING AT THREE 13, BUT NOW COMMISSIONER WHITE, PARDON ME? SORRY FOR BEING TARDY , UM, JAMES? YES, SIR. UH, JUST QUICKLY, I I, I'M ASSUMING, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S BEEN A BUNCH OF WORK HERE DONE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN TRYING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE CONCERNS. UH, MOST PARTICULARLY, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS A HUNDRED PERCENT PARKING REQUEST AND ISSUES WITH TRANSPORTATION. AND SO I I I'M ASSUMING YOU, AND MAYBE YOU CAN JUST QUICKLY DETAIL THE EFFORTS MADE, UH, TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THERE AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING LEFT, UH, TO DO IN THAT REGARD, OR IF ALL ACCOMMODATIONS POSSIBLE HAVE BEEN MADE. SURE. AND ACTUALLY I, YOU KNOW, I HAVE, UM, REPRESENTATIVES FROM SAHA HERE FROM ELLIS, AND THEY WERE PART OF IT. I, I'M WONDERING IF YOU WANTED TO, UH, SPEAK TO HOW MANY DIFFERENT MEETINGS WE HAD OR, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE PUT UP A LIST THERE FOR THE AMOUNT OF, THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS WE HAD. UH, I WASN'T PRESENT FOR A LOT OF THOSE, BUT, UH, TO BE HONEST, BUT THERE WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, MAILERS OUT TO HAVE THOSE, A LOT OF THE MEETINGS OBVIOUSLY WERE IN ZOOM FORM, BUT, UM, YES, WE, WE LISTENED TO THOSE DISCUSSIONS. I KNOW THAT YOU OFTEN, YOU WILL HEAR A NEIGHBORHOOD SAY, WE WEREN'T LISTENED TO BECAUSE WE DIDN'T CHANGE. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT FEELING, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE WEREN'T LISTENING. IT JUST MEANS THAT WE HAVE CERTAIN OBJECTIONS, OBJECT OBJECTIVES TO HIT IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS PROJECT WORK FOR THE FOLKS THAT NEED THAT HOUSING. BUT, UM, CERTAINLY WE BROUGHT THE, YOU CAN SEE HOW DRASTICALLY THE PROJECT HAD CHANGED OVER A YEAR AND A HALF, UH, OF THESE MEETINGS. UM, GOING FROM 13, 14 ACRES OF 60 UNITS AN ACRE, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO JUST THAT ONE EDGE ALONG THE HIGHWAY, UM, LOWERING THE HEIGHTS, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING PARKING REQUIREMENTS, MAKING MORE CONNECTIONS ALONG THE STREETS. AT THIS POINT, I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE REACHED THE MOST THAT WE CAN DO. UM, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT THERE. THERE'S THE, THE EXTENSION OF MCMONAGLE, FOR INSTANCE, GOING THROUGH. WE'RE JUST, WE'RE NOT, WE CAN'T PREPARE THAT YET BECAUSE WE ARE NOT THE DEVELOPER DOING THAT SITE YET. IT'S, IT'S JUST NOT READY TO DO THAT. UM, IT'S CERTAINLY AN IDEA THAT, UM, IS WILLING TO LISTEN TO, BUT UM, YEAH, AT THIS POINT WE'VE DONE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE CAN AND WE FELT LIKE WE MET THOSE NEEDS ENOUGH, AT LEAST TO GAIN THE LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT. YEAH. AND, AND THAT WAS MY QUESTION BECAUSE I, I KNOW THERE'S THE BUSINESS SIDE OF THIS AND, AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LIMIT TO HOW TO HOW, HOW FAR YOU GUYS CAN GO, BUT WITH, WITH A VERY ACTIVE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, AND I, AND I DID SEE ALL THE MEETINGS THAT YOU'VE HAD, IT SEEMED TO ME THAT THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME, THERE WERE SOME ACTIVE DISCUSSIONS ONGOING AND I JUST WANTED TO HEAR IT FROM YOU THAT, THAT YOU BELIEVE, UH, YOU'VE LISTENED AND TAKEN EVERYTHING INTO CONSIDERATION AND HAVE, [02:05:01] HAVE DONE AS MUCH AS YOU GUYS CAN DO ON YOUR END, UH, TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS. I BELIEVE WE HAVE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WHITE. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, UH, TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER WEE. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. UH RIDGE STAFF WHILE HE'S COMING UP. CAN YOU BRING UP HIS SLIDES? PLEASE? DON'T GO TOO FAR AWAY, MR. MCKNIGHT. UH, SO SIR, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT YOUR PAST, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THE LAWYERS. THOSE ARE THE LAWYER SLIDES. THAT'S FINE. THAT'S SO, UH, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A FEW MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT YOUR AS, 'CAUSE I DIDN'T GET TO SEE, UH, MUCH OF IT. CAN YOU, UH, TAKE A FEW MINUTES AND TALK ABOUT THEM? SURE, YEAH. THANK YOU. I, I APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY. SO I THINK THE FIRST FEW, UH, HAVE BEEN, UH, ARE THINGS THAT WI WITH REGARD TO THE OPEN SPACE. UH, WE, WE KNOW, FEEL LIKE THE DEVELOPMENT IS MAKING STRIDES AND CREATING NEW OPEN SPACE, BUT WE DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE, THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT SHOULD JUST BE COMPLETELY REMOVED TO WHERE IF SOME, SOMEHOW THERE'S ANOTHER DOWNTURN AND SOMEBODY ELSE DECIDES TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, UH, THAT THEY CAN JUST REMOVE THAT BECAUSE IT WASN'T PART OF THIS. SO WITH THIS ZONING, THESE CURRENT OPEN SPACES WILL BE REMOVED AND THE NEW ZONING WILL REQUIRE NO OPEN SPACE. THAT'S THE FIRST ONE. SECOND ONE, THE TRAIL. I THINK IT'S JUST, IT'S A GREAT IDEA THAT WE LOVE IT, BUT WITH HOW MUCH TALK WE'VE HEARD ABOUT HOW HARD IT'S FOR TXDOT TO GIVE US ACCESS FOR VEHI VEHICULAR TRAFFIC, WHICH WOULD BE, I THINK MAKE A LOT OF THESE CONCERNS GO AWAY FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT, WE DON'T THINK IT'S REALLY REALISTIC. SO IT WOULD BE GREAT IF, IF THAT IS GONNA BE A PART OF THE PLAN THAT IS ACTUALLY FUNDED AND APPROVED THE PARKING. UM, I THINK THE 1.3, UM, IS JUST A NUMBER. RIGHT? IT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND. SO I THINK FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD STANDPOINT, UM, IF THERE ISN'T PARKING FOR THE APARTMENT PROJECTS, THERE WILL INHERENTLY BE PARKING ON THE STREET AND THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH PARKING ON THE STREET AS IT IS. AND SO THEY'LL, I MEAN, IT'LL OVERFLOW EVEN ACROSS LABOR THE WAY WE THINK IT WILL HAPPEN. SO THEN TRAFFIC CALMING. I THINK WE'VE TRIED TO TALK THROUGH, UH, SOME OF THESE THINGS AND SOME THINGS LIKE STOP SIGNS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP, BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY DESIGN, RIGHT? THAT'S NOT URBAN DESIGN. SO, UH, I THINK IF, IF THIS WAS A SERIOUS DEVELOPMENT, UM, THAT THAT WOULD BE GIVEN MORE, MORE WEIGHT. AND THEN THE LAST THREE ARE ACTUALLY ALL REQUESTED BY L AND A AS WELL. SO THE STREET EXTENSION, AND THEY, UH, MENTIONED TO MCGONIGAL OR TO THE HIGHWAY, AND THEN THE ENGINEERING PLANES PLANS FOR DRAINAGE. I THINK THAT'S ALSO BEEN REQUESTED, NOT JUST, NOT JUST A, UH, , A QUOTE THAT IT CAN BE DONE, WE KNOW IT CAN BE DONE, BUT ACTUALLY THE DESIGN OR THE PLANS, UH, BECAUSE THERE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE SOME DOWNSTREAM EFFECTS. AND THEN THE TWO STORY MAXIMUM HEIGHT, UH, THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT A LOT, UH, FOR THAT SECOND BLOCK WHERE THE APARTMENTS ARE, THAT'S ALSO BEEN REQUESTED IN THAT APPROVAL LETTER THAT WAS PART OF THE REQUEST. UM, AND SO THAT, DOES THAT HELP CLARIFY? YES, I APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE THE TIME. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. CHAIR. DO I HAVE ANY MORE TIME LEFT? I BELIEVE YOU DO HAVE SOME TIME. UH, QUESTION FOR SAHA AND YOU HAVE ABOUT SIX AND A HALF MINUTES. COMMISSIONER HU TIM, AKA SAN ANTONIO HOUSE AUTHORITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, SO WHEN THE ORIGINAL VICTORIA COURTS WERE TORN DOWN, DO YOU HAVE ANY HISTORICAL, UH, DATA ON WHAT HAPPENED TO THE RESIDENTS, THE GENERATIONS OF PEOPLE THAT LIVED THERE? WHERE WERE THEY DISPLACED TO? SO, UM, WELL THERE WAS 796 PUBLIC HOUSING UNITS THAT WERE THERE IN AROUND 1995. IN 1995, WE GOT SOMETHING CALLED A HOPE SIX GRANT. AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME IT WAS TORN DOWN, UM, THAT A LOT OF THE FOLKS GOT SECTION EIGHT VOUCHERS, WHICH IS A, UH, IT'S A PORTABLE VOUCHER TO MOVE OTHER PLACES. UM, UM, SOME ACTUALLY MOVED INTO OTHER PUBLIC HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS, UM, ACROSS THE CITY. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ORDER TO WRITE THE, THE, THE PLANS HAVE CHANGED OVER THE YEARS. YOU KNOW, ORIGINALLY THE PLANS WERE, UH, TO PUT NEARLY ALL THOSE PUBLIC HOUSING PE PEOPLE BACK. AND THEN WHAT WE HAVE DONE, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE URBAN LAND INSTITUTE, WE HAD A, UM, NATIONAL EXPERTS COME DOWN AND LOOK AT THIS SITE AND WE FIGURED OUT HOW COULD WE DO A SUCCESSFUL MIXED INCOME DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS AREA. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS ACTUALLY A RESULT OF MEETINGS WE HAD WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NATIONAL EXPERTS FROM THE URBAN LAND INSTITUTE ON HOW TO MAKE THIS A SUCCESSFUL MIXED INCOME DEVELOPMENT. [02:10:01] AND SO WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE COMMENTS BEFORE TODAY WAS, YOU KNOW, UH, LIKE YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT, UH, INCOMES AND PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, AND THAT'S ALL CHANGED OVER THE YEARS. WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, WORD OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD EVEN ON THE, THE INCOMES, THE DENSITY, ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS. BUT WE THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE SOME MULTI-FAMILY WHERE THOSE TWO DETENTION PONDS ARE. 'CAUSE THE BASE EXPENSES TO OUR RESIDENTS IS, IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IS THE, THE FOOD, TRANSPORTATION AND HOUSING AND THIS, A LOT OF FOLKS CAN WORK IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND THEY CAN WALK TO WORK, UM, BECAUSE TRANSPORTATION, HOUSING, AND FOOD, YOU KNOW, I'M HITTING TWO OF THE THREE IF I BE ABLE TO BUILD SOME MIXED INCOME THERE. SO WE'RE STILL KEEPING THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE TOWN HOMES, WHICH ARE ALL MARKET RATE, BUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS REALLY IN THE, UH, THE DEVELOPMENTS AND IT REALLY IS NEEDED FOR DOWNTOWN AND FOR OUR RESIDENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WEEP. COMMISSIONER JONES, ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, COMMISSIONER SIPES, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR, UH, FOR JAMES. UM, THE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND IT MAY HAVE BEEN THAT, THAT I MISSED IT ON ONE OF YOUR SLIDES. WHAT IS EXACTLY PROPOSED FOR WHERE THOSE, FOR WHERE THE TOWN HOMES ARE NOW? IS, IS THAT THE TOWN HOMES? I, I, I REMEMBER YOU SAY SHOWING LIKE SINGLE FAMILY AGAIN, UH, ALONG ONE OF THEM, BUT I COULDN'T REMEMBER. COULD YOU GO TO THAT SLIDE PERHAPS? SURE. UM, IF YOU SCROLL UP, RIGHT, UH, THIS IS A, A VIEW, IS THIS THE AREA YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHERE THE APARTMENTS ARE? WELL, YES, BUT MORE ALONG LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE PLAN PATH AND, AND ALL THOSE, ARE THOSE, ARE THOSE STILL SCHEDULED TO BE DEVELOPED AS TOWN HOMES OR NO, SO THE, THE, IF YOU, IT KEEPS SCROLLING UP, PLEASE. UM, RIGHT THERE. SO THAT, THAT YELLOW MAP, YEAH. SO THE PART WHERE THE YELLOW IS DOWN HERE AT THE BOTTOM, THIS WAS THE AREA THAT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED AS TOWN HOMES AND NOW IS SHOWN AS APARTMENTS. AND WE'VE JUST LOWERED THE HEIGHT TO BE A MAXIMUM OF THREE STORIES AND HAVE WALKUP UNITS. AS YOU SEE IN THAT, IN THAT PHOTO DOWN DOWN THE STREET IS THAT IT'S NOT YOUR TYPICAL APARTMENT COMPLEX. IT, PART OF THE URBAN DESIGN WAS TO HAVE WALKUP UNITS TO SORT OF MIMIC THE LOOK AND FEEL OF A, OF A TOWN HOME. OKAY. OKAY. I THINK I SEE WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. THE, THE ONES IN THE, UH, TURQUOISE OR TEAL, THOSE ARE, YES, THESE ARE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED. OKAY. RIGHT. GOTCHA. THEY'RE NOT IN TYPICAL TOWN HOMES ARE ATTACHED, SO THESE ARE DETACHED. OKAY. AND I, ALL RIGHT, I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS. THANKS. SURE. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SIPES. UH, COMMISSIONER MCGEE. WE'LL START WITH YOU REMOTE. OKAY. UM, YEAH, I THINK MINE ARE MORE COMMENTS, SO I'LL LISTEN TO THE QUESTIONS. OKAY, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MCGEE. DR. ROMERO, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE? YES. THANK YOU. UM, UH, FOR JAMES, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. UM, JAMES, I, I GUESS ON THAT SLIDE CAN, I'M SORRY. THERE'S JUST A LOT HERE TO GO THROUGH. OH, I'LL ALSO SAY I WAS IN, I WAS ON LEE STREET YESTERDAY WALKING AROUND, AND I HEARD PEOPLE PICK ME UP ON THEIR DOORBELL CAMERAS. SO HERE I AM. I WAS, I WAS THE PERSON IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU DIDN'T KNOW. UM, SO JAMES, ON THIS MAP, UM, WHAT PARTS REQUIRE THE PLAN AMENDMENT? RIGHT. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS TRIANGLE DOWN HERE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE SOUTH POND. THAT'S THE ONLY AREA THAT REQUIRED THE PLAN AMENDMENT. OKAY. WE CAN'T SEE THAT REMOTELY, WHAT YOU'RE POINTING TO, SO, OH, I'M SORRY, . THAT'S OKAY. I'M SORRY. IT'S THE, UH, THE LARGER OF THE TWO YELLOW TRIANGLE AREAS. IT'S THE SOUTH END OF IT, THAT'S SOUTH END. IT'S ABOUT 4.4 ACRES. IT WAS ALREADY MEDIUM DENSITY AND MM-HMM. PARKS AND OPEN SPACE. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE REQUESTED TO BE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. OKAY. UM, I GUESS, UM, I GUESS WHEN, WHEN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT STORM WATER RETENTION AND DOING THAT THROUGH DIFFERENT MEANS, NOW, MAYBE THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED LATER ON, LIKE, LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT WITH MCGONIGAL STREET, BUT IS, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN ADDRESS NOW? UH, WE DO HAVE THE PROJECT ENGINEER HERE IF YOU WANT TO GIVE A, A BRIEF OUTLINE OF SOME OF THE, THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKED AT, BECAUSE DEFINITELY HAS BEEN LOOKED AT. OKAY. NO, I'M, YEAH, I GUESS I WOULDN'T MIND HEARING AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. SURE. GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, TAYLOR ALLEN WITH, UH, W G I 57 10 WEST HAUSMAN. UM, AS FAR AS DRAINAGE, UM, AS JAMES MENTIONED, THERE ARE EXISTING DETENTION FACILITIES ON SITE. [02:15:01] UH, THE INTENT IS THAT THEY ARE NOT BEING REMOVED, BUT BEING REDESIGNED. UH, WHAT WE'VE LOOKED AT ON THE NORTH POND SITE, UM, IS TO DO AN UNDERGROUND DETENTION FACILITY. SO THAT ONE HAS A SURFACE PARKING LOT, WHICH WOULD ALLOW AN UNDERGROUND DETENTION FACILITY TO BE PLACED UNDERNEATH THAT PAVING, UH, TO ACCOMMODATE BOTH THE EXISTING VOLUME THAT THAT POND IS CAPTURING, AS WELL AS THE INCREASE AND IMPERVIOUS COVER THAT THAT DEVELOPMENT IS CREATING. UM, ON THE SOUTH POND, WE'VE LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF SOLUTIONS. UM, THE ONE ON THE SCREEN IS, UM, A LARGER EARTHEN, UM, SLIGHTED POND, WHICH IS A SIMILAR CONDITION TO WHAT'S OUT THERE TODAY IN THAT SORT OF, UH, LIGHTER GREEN ALONG THE HIGHWAY FRONTAGE. UM, AND WE'VE ALSO LOOKED AT, UH, ANOTHER SCENARIO WHICH USES A VERTICAL WALL DETENTION, UM, FACILITY. AND SO WHAT THAT ALLOWS US TO DO IS GET A MORE EFFICIENT, UH, FOOTPRINT BECAUSE, UH, WHAT'S OUT THERE TODAY, THE, THE SLOPE SIDES, UM, AND A SHALLOWER DEPTH CREATE A LARGER FOOTPRINT, UH, BY USING VERTICAL WALLS, WE'RE ABLE TO INCREASE THE EFFICIENCY AND INCREASE THE DEPTH. UM, BOTH OF THOSE PONDS WOULD BE TYING INTO EXISTING TXDOT UNDERGROUND STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT RUNS PARALLEL TO THE HIGHWAY. UM, AND SO UNLIKE MOST, UH, DRAINAGE, UH, REVIEWS IN SAN ANTONIO, WE'D BE BEING, UM, REVIEWED AND PERMITTED BY BOTH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND TXDOT FOR ANY CHANGES TO THAT DRAINAGE BECAUSE WE'D BE TYING INTO TDOT FACILITIES. ALL RIGHT. UM, BUT WITH THE CHANGE, HOW MUCH LOSS OF IMPERVIOUS COVER WERE THERE? WOULD THERE BE, CAN CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? HOW, HOW MUCH LOSS OF IMPERVIOUS COVER WOULD THERE BE WITH THE CHANGE? AND, AND HOW IMPORTANT IS THAT? BECAUSE I LIKE, THE WAY I ENVISION IT IS THAT RIGHT NOW THE WATER IS DRAINING THROUGH IMPERVIOUS COVER, AND THAT, THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE MORE ATTRACTIVE THAN JUST SORT OF DRAINING IT DOWN UNDERNEATH THE STREET. SO, UM, BOTH OF THE PONDS RIGHT NOW ARE, UM, UH, PERVIOUS IN NATURE. HOWEVER, THEY DO, UM, ARE DESIGNED TO STORE WATER, AS YOU SAW IN SOME OF THE PHOTOS BEFORE. AND SO EACH ONE OF THEM DOES HAVE OUTFALL STRUCTURES, WHICH, UM, ALLOW WATER TO OVERFLOW AND GO DIRECTLY INTO THAT SAME STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE IN TEXTILES RIGHT AWAY. UM, SO THERE'S A, A SMALL AMOUNT OF, UM, UM, ABSORPTION INTO THE NATURAL GRADE, UH, AND THE GRASS AND SOIL. UM, BUT REALLY THE, THE ANY OVERFLOW BEYOND THE A, A LARGER STORM EVENT, UM, AND, AND ULTIMATE, UH, RELEASE OF THAT VOLUME, UM, IS, IS CURRENTLY GOING INTO THAT TEXTILE INFRASTRUCTURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR JAMES, AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, JAMES, WHEN, UH, DR. WILSON SAID SOMETHING ABOUT BUILDING A HOME THAT HAD NO DRIVEWAY AND NO GARAGE, UH, THAT THERE'S, THERE'S NOWHERE TO PARK. UM, SO AGAIN, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WITH, WITH THESE APARTMENTS THAT ARE GONNA BE GOING BEHIND LEE STREET, WHERE EXACTLY WOULD PEOPLE PARK AND HOW FAR WOULD THEY BE WALKING FROM WHERE YOU THINK THEY WOULD BE PARKING? RIGHT. SO THE CURRENT DESIGN IS SHOWING ON THE, THE SOUTH POND AREA THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BEHIND, UM, MOUNT ZION WALK IS HAVE A, UH, PARKING STRUCTURE THAT IS INSIDE, HAVE THE APARTMENTS WRAP AROUND THAT PARKING STRUCTURE. SO THE, THE LEVEL OF PARKING IS WHAT WOULD CONTAIN ALL OF THE, THE CARS THAT NEEDED TO PARK FOR THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX. THEY WOULD NOT BE PARKING ON THE STREET. OKAY. UM, AND THEN I, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF BECAUSE I JUST FEEL LIKE, UM, IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT TO FRAME THIS IN TERMS OF WHAT EXACTLY WE'RE LOOKING AT, WHICH IS A ZONING CHANGE AND THAT THE ZONING CHANGE TAKES PLACE WITHIN A PLAN AND MAYBE AN AMENDED PLAN. SO I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK STAFF, AND IF YOU DON'T WANT TO, IF THIS ISN'T A FAIR QUESTION, THEN I'M FINE WITH WITHDRAWING IT, BUT CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT YOUR RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CHANGE FROM I D Z TO I D Z TWO AND THREE BEING APPROPRIATE, AN APPROPRIATE LAND USE CHANGE WITHIN THIS PLAN? BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY THE CORE OF WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT. AND I KNOW I'M READING YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE MEMO, BUT IT'S ALWAYS HELPFUL IF YOU CAN JUST SAY IT AGAIN. SURE. NO, THAT'S A, A FAIR, A VERY FAIR QUESTION. AND I THINK IN OUR ASSESSMENT OF THIS AND WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE FOR THIS ORDINANCE 9 6, 6 0 9, THE USES THAT ARE ACTUALLY PERMITTED UNDER THE CURRENT I D Z ARE MUCH MORE INTENSE. UM, AS FAR AS SCOPE, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A GAMUT OF RETAIL TO RESIDENTIAL USES. AND SO WE DID FEEL THAT WITH THE IDZ TWO AND THE I D Z THREE AND THE FACT THAT THEY WOULD SUBMIT A SITE PLAN AND ALL OF THEIR USES WOULD BE SPECIFIED THAT THAT WAS A POSITIVE THING FOR THE COMMUNITY. OKAY. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. UH, [02:20:01] THANK YOU DR. ROMERO. AND I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS MYSELF. UM, AND FORGIVE ME, UH, WE'RE GONNA START WITH MR. MCKNIGHT, THEN I MIGHT WANT, UH, MR. PERKINS, OR IS IT DR. WILSON? SORRY, I'VE BEEN CALLING YOU MR. WILSON, I APOLOGIZE. UM, AND THEN IT MIGHT ALSO INVOLVE STAFF. THE FIRST QUESTION IS WE'RE LOOKING AT, SORRY, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT WE REFERRED TO AS THE SOUTH DETENTION POND, WHAT IS THE NUMBER OF UNITS THERE? 250. OKAY. PER ACRE OR THE EQUIVALENT ZONING? OH, UM, IT'S, UH, ABOUT 70. OKAY. SO, BUT MF THE, FOR THE OVERALL AREA 65, THE MF 65. RIGHT. BECAUSE THE NORTH POND IS LESS SO IT'S BALANCES. OKAY. UM, ALRIGHT. SO WHAT WOULD THAT PARKING REQUIREMENT BE IF IT WERE MF 65? NO, I D Z ACCOMMODATION, IT'D BE 1.5. UM, UH, PARKING SPOTS PER, OKAY. SO IF WE'RE STILL DOING PER UNIT, THEN WE'RE 1.5 RIGHT. AS OPPOSED TO 1.3, WHICH IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED? THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT DISTINCTION, AND MAYBE I DON'T NEED DR. WILSON AND MR. MR. PERKINS, UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 1.5 PARKING SPOTS PER UNIT AND 1.3, WELL, ACTUALLY IN TERMS OF CODE, YOU'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT 0.75 VERSUS 1.3 BECAUSE UNDER I D Z YOU ONLY HAVE 50%. SORRY, BUT YES. LET ME, LET ME STATE THAT BETTER. OKAY. . THANK YOU MR. MCNIGHT. UM, IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT A STRICT MF 65 YES. GOT YOU. OKAY. THEN YOU'D BE LOOKING AT 1.5 CORRECT. WITH THE MS 65 VERSUS THE I D Z THREE REQUESTED AT 1.3, CORRECT? THAT'S RIGHT. UH, ALRIGHT. YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT WAS MENTIONED, AND I THINK THIS WAS BOTH IN THE UM, LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION LETTER AND AS WAS BROUGHT UP BY A COUPLE OF SPEAKERS, WAS THIS IDEA OF A TRAFFIC STUDY OR A FURTHER TRAFFIC STUDY. CORRECT. UH, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT'S REFERRING TO? AND IF YOU DON'T, MR. PERKINS OR DR. WILSON? UM, I'M, I WON'T SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT A FULL T I A AS OPPOSED TO THE STUDY THAT WE HAD STARTED OUT, A TYPICAL T I A WILL HAVE THE CITY'S INVOLVEMENT IN TERMS OF THEY CHOOSE THE SCOPING AND WE DID A STUDY ON OUR OWN WHERE WE DID NOT HAVE THE CITY'S INVOLVEMENT IN THAT. SO WE HAVE DONE A STUDY, BUT IT IS NOT AN OFFICIAL T I A, BUT, AND WHEN WAS THAT STUDY DONE? OH, AUGUST. AUGUST OF LAST YEAR. OKAY. SO THAT WAS DONE IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR. SO AUGUST AND, AND IT WAS A DIFFERENT TIME, BUT WE DID DO INCREASES TO COVER FOR THE, THE AND AND WHAT DID THOSE INCREASES CONSIST OF? SO THERE WAS A, UM, A 45% INCREASE ADDED ON FOR, BECAUSE OF THE COVID, BECAUSE OF THE COVID PANDEMIC HAVING, AND THERE WAS, UM, TXDOT AND, AND THE CITY HAD SAID THERE WAS A 43% REDUCTION, SO WE ADDED 45% AND ON TOP OF THAT, THAT WASN'T A FULL SCHOOL TIME, SO WE ADDED ANOTHER 15%, UH, FOR SCHOOL TRAFFIC. SO IN TOTAL WE INCREASED THE NUMBERS THAT WE GOT BY 60%. OKAY. AND SO, UH, MR. PERKINS AND DR. WILSON, IF YOU CAN NOD, WHEN, WHEN YOU, Y'ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT A TRAFFIC STUDY, A FULL TRAFFIC STUDY, YOU MEAN THE ONE THAT INVOLVES THE CITY AND EVERYTHING ELSE, IS THAT CORRECT? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, ONE THING OF COURSE THAT DR. WILSON BROUGHT UP WAS, UH, THE AVAILABILITY OF EMERGENCY SERVICES. SO WHAT HAVE Y'ALL LOOKED AT TO ADDRESS THAT? I'LL ACTUALLY ASK, OR WHAT, WHAT ARE YOUR TAYLOR, IF WE, HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS THAT OR HOW DO YOU THINK IT'S ADDRESSED, GIVEN THE CURRENT PLANE? RIGHT. I, I BELIEVE THAT THE, THE STREET STANDARD THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THE 25 FOOT PAVED, UM, STREET ON A 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE A 50 FOOT RIGHT WAY AND, AND 25 FOOT PAVED, UM, ACCOMMODATES THE EMERGENCY SERVICES VEHICLE CORRECTLY. I MEAN, THAT, THAT IS, IT'S, UH, CLASSIFIED AS A LOCAL STREET AND IT CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT VEHICLE. ALRIGHT. AND THEN MY FINAL QUESTION, UM, JUST DEALS WITH, I THINK SOMEONE MENTIONED AND MIGHT HAVE BEEN MR. ERIDGE, UM, MENTIONED A RAILROAD RIGHT OF WAY IN THERE. IS THERE A RAILROAD RIGHT OF WAY ALONG THIS OR DID I JUST MISH HERE ALSO A POSSIBILITY? I'M, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT. OKAY. I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'S SORT OF TDOT RIGHT OF WAY ALONG 37 FAR AS I KNOW THERE HASN'T BEEN A RAILROAD ON THAT SIDE EVER, BUT, OKAY. YEAH, MR. PER, MR. PERKINS, IF YOU HAD A WELL STATEMENT, I THINK HE'S REFERRING TO THE FACT THAT THE TRAIL GOES FURTHER SOUTH AND THEN HAS TO CROSS A RAILROAD RIGHT AWAY. SO THAT'S A PERMISSION THEY HAVE TO GET. OKAY. THANK YOU MR. PERKINS FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. I APPRECIATE IT. ALRIGHT, THAT IS ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE AT THIS TIME. UM, WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO YOU, COMMISSIONER MCDANIELS, IF YOU HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS OR IF ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER HAS FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. OH, COMMISSIONER SIPES. IF COMMISSIONER MCDANIELS, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR IF YOU WANT COMMISSIONER SIPES TO GO FIRST. UM, I WANTED TO JUST KIND OF START BACK A LITTLE BIT WITH STAFF. CAN YOU JUST, FOR EVERYONE THAT'S LISTENING, JUST GIVE US A VERY QUICK EDUCATION BETWEEN THE DIFFERENCE WITH THE CURRENT I D Z. I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT [02:25:01] HOW IT'S MORE INTENSE USE, BUT WITH REGARD TO DEVELOPING THE DENSITY AND THE NUMBER OF UNITS, WERE THERE ANY RESTRICTIONS AS TO HOW HIGH THEY COULD GO, HOW MANY UNITS THEY COULD DEVELOP? ? SO THE OLD, UNDER THE OLD I D Z, IT WAS A LOT MORE PERMISSIVE THAN THE CURRENT I D Z CATEGORIES. THERE WERE NO, UH, HEIGHT CAPS, UM, ON THE OLD I D Z AND, UM, THERE WASN'T A MORE, UH, DEFINED SITE PLAN THAT YOU HAVE, UH, TODAY. SO THE OLD I D Z, IF I, IF YOU SAID STATED, THAT IS MORE INTENSE BECAUSE OF THOSE LACK OF RESTRICTIONS. SO THIS NEW CATEGORY HAS MORE RESTRICTIONS INCLUDING, UM, HEIGHTS, UM, WHEN ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY USES. THAT'S MORE RESTRICTIVE IN THE PREVIOUS ONE. THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE SOME I D Z, UM, DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE THREE, FOUR STORIES ADJACENT TO A SINGLE FAMILY HOME BECAUSE THAT WAS UNDER THE OLD, THAT WAS PERMISSIVE UNDER THE OLD I D Z. SO THAT'S JUST, UH, A COUPLE OF, UM, UH, REFERENCES I CAN THINK OF AND EXAMPLES, UH, FOR THE OLD I D Z, WHICH IS WHY WE CHANGED IT. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, WE CANNOT HEAR YOU STILL CAN'T HEAR YOU ALL RIGHT. SORRY. DON'T KNOW. THERE YOU GO. I'M BACK. I THINK, UM, UNDER THE OLD I D Z, WHAT WERE THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS VERSUS THE I DZ TWO OR I D Z THREE? THE OLD I D Z WAIVED PARKING ENTIRELY REGARDLESS OF THE DENSITY. SO THIS ONE HAS A REQUIREMENT OF AT LEAST A MINIMUM OF 50%, UM, IN THIS CASE 0.75, UH, PER UNIT, UH, BECAUSE IT'S IN THE I D Z. UM, TWO AND THREE REQUIRE, UM, 50% PARKING AND I D Z ONE WAVES PARKING IN ITS ENTIRETY. OKAY, THANK YOU. AND THEN WITH REGARD TO THE SITE PLAN, UM, AND I KNOW WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT OPEN SPACES AND I'M, CAN YOU BRING UP THE ACTUAL SITE PLAN? IS THAT WHAT YOU HAVE THERE? I CAN'T TELL IF THAT'S THE ACTUAL SITE PLAN OR NOT. YES, THAT'S THE SITE PLAN FOR THE CASE? CORRECT. OKAY. SO, UM, THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY OPEN SPACE THAT'S DEFINED ON THERE AND I'VE, I'VE HEARD PEOPLE ASKING OR TALKING ABOUT OPEN, OPEN SPACE. SO JAMES, IS THERE ACTUALLY ANY OPEN SPACE PLANNED IN THAT AREA? SO THE, IF, UM, MARCO CAN, YOU CAN PULL UP THE PLAN THAT SHOWS THE DIFFERENT APARTMENT UNITS. THAT'S THE ONE. THANK YOU. SO SOME OF THE OPEN SPACE HAS BEEN THAT WE ARE, ARE PLANNING TO CLOSE OFF PEYTON PATHWAY AND REMOVE A FEW OF THE UNITS ALONG SANTA CLARA IN ORDER TO CREATE A CONNECTION BETWEEN LABOR STREET PARK DOWN TO THE OTHER UNITS. SO THE, THAT IS THE MAIN OPEN WAY THAT IS, UH, AN AREA THAT WILL BE, UH, PUBLIC. OKAY, PERFECT. AND SO THEN QUESTION BACK TO STAFF. I'M SORRY, UM, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, THE, THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM SAHA HAD MORE TO ADD TO THAT. YEAH, SO, OKAY. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND AND WE CAN'T, I DUNNO IF THAT CAN ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT THAT, UH, PICTURE, BUT YOU CAN'T, WHERE IT SAYS LABOR STREET PARK ON THE LEFT SIDE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE IT, UH, IF YOU'RE NOT PRESENT, WE DID A LAND SWAP WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO FOR UP HERE WAS 100 LABOR. AND, UM, SO ORIGINALLY THERE WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS ACTUALLY PART OF, UH, VICTORIA COURTS. AND SO TO CREATE OPEN SPACE, WE ACTUALLY DID A SWAP WITH THE CITY, UH, SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A PARK IN THE AREA AREA. AND SO THAT WAY, UH, WHENEVER WE, WE TAKE OUT PEYTON PLACE, THAT, UH, STREET THAT ARE IN THE MIDDLE, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE, THERE'S CONNECTIVITY. AND THEN WE TOOK OUT THESE UNITS HERE AS WELL SO THAT THERE'S A, UM, A GREEN STREET, A WALKABLE STREET RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE. SO IT'S ALL CONNECTED. SO WE ACTUALLY WORKED REALLY HARD TO CREATE, UH, OPEN SPACE, WHICH YOU SEE THERE BY MOVING THE LABOR STREET PARK IN THE, THIS DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU. UM, AND, AND SO THAT'S HELPFUL TO ME TO UNDERSTAND NOW WHAT WE WERE REFERENCING. SO MY QUESTION THEN BACK TO STAFF IS, 'CAUSE WHEN I THINK OF A SITE PLAN, I, I, I THINK OF JUST BUILDINGS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, THIS SITE PLAN, DOES THAT LOCK THEM INTO KEEPING THE GREEN SPACE AS DISCUSSED TODAY? SO THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN NOW IS A SITE PLAN THAT'S SUBMITTED, UM, FOR THE CASE THAT MEETS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CASE. UM, UH, GO AHEAD SIR. YOU WANTED TO ADD MORE? YEAH, WELL, SO WE, UM, I'LL JUST SAY THERE'S A DEEDED WHERE WE DEEDED THAT, THAT THAT GREEN SPACE TO THE CITY AS A PUBLIC PARK. SO, UM, I FEEL LIKE I'M TIED IN THERE, . OKAY. THANK YOU. I WASN'T AWARE. UM, OKAY. UM, LET ME TAKE A STEP BACK TO JAMES, IF YOU DON'T MIND AND BEAR WITH ME LOOKING, CONFIRM MY QUESTIONS. UM, CAN I GET YOU TO CONFIRM, 'CAUSE I HEARD THAT SANTO STREET WAS ONLY GONNA CONNECT TO THE APARTMENTS, BUT WHEN I TALKED TO YOU THE OTHER DAY, I THINK I [02:30:01] ASKED IF IT WAS ACTUALLY GONNA COME DOWN AND CONNECT TO, UM, FUO. I GUESS THAT'S THE STREET. I DO BELIEVE THAT'S THE PLAN TO CONNECT DOWN TO FUO. YES. OKAY. UM, AND IF YOU WANNA HAVE THE SAHA, UH, REPRESENTATIVE COME BACK UP, AND I'M SORRY SIR, I DIDN'T WRITE DOWN YOUR NAME, BUT CAN YOU SPEAK TO EVERYONE AS TO WHY WE CAN'T TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT OPENING UP, UH, TO MC MCMONAGLE TO LABOR STREET AT THIS TIME? YEP. SO THAT IS DEFINITELY IS A POSSIBILITY. SO WHEN WE GO WITH THE DEVELOPER, THAT IS, WE'RE VERY OPEN TO IT. SO WE ACTUALLY, WE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE WERE SOME FOLKS THAT DID FEEL THAT MC MONO GOLF, WE OPENED IT UP THERE THAT THEY'D LOSE SOME PARK SPACE BECAUSE IT GOES RIGHT UP AGAINST THE PARK AND THEN YOU CAN'T USE AS MUCH SPACE. AND OTHER FOLKS YOU HEARD ALSO ARE FOR NOT OPENING UP, I MEAN, BEFORE OPENING UP MC MCMONAGLE. AND SO THERE WAS A, YOU KNOW, AS WE NEGOTIATED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU SAW THE SLIDES, WE, WE ACTUALLY SENT OUT 14,000 FLYERS. YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE JUST ONE MEETING, UM, SOMEONE OF THE PRESENTATION SLIDES, YOU KNOW, WE SAID WE HAD LOTS OF MEETINGS ABOUT, WELL WE ACTUALLY ARE VERY MUCH OPEN TO DOING THAT. UM, BUT UM, WHEN WE SELECT THE DEVELOPER, THEY WILL BE, UM, YOU KNOW, I GUESS A DECISION MADE, BUT IT IS NOT LIKE WE'RE, UM, WE'RE NECESSARILY NECESSARILY, UM, ABSOLUTELY OPPOSED TO IT. UM, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T MADE THAT DECISION YET BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE DEVELOPER ON BOARD YET. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANKS. AND THEN ONE OTHER QUESTION, BECAUSE I, I WAS DOWN IN THE AREA. I DID DRIVE EACH OF THOSE STREETS THIS MORNING AND JUST KIND OF SAT THERE AND TRIED TO ENVISION WHAT THIS WILL LOOK LIKE AFTER IT'S FULLY DEVELOPED. AND MY IMMEDIATE REACTION WAS, IT'S GONNA GET CROWDED. AND THOSE STREETS ARE NOT YOU IF 25 FEET SOUNDS LIKE WIDE STREETS, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT WHEN YOU HAVE TWO CARS PARKED ON EACH SIDE, THAT MAKES IT A VERY, UH, SLIM, UH, PASS BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM. AND IT DOES WORRY ME ABOUT EMERGENCY VEHICLES TRYING TO GET INTO THAT AREA. AND LET ME JUST SAY, BY THE WAY, ALSO, I'M NOT TALKING OR ASKING QUESTIONS JUST FOR THE CURRENT RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE. I'M ACTUALLY THINKING ABOUT AFTER THIS DEVELOPMENT GOES UP, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THAT COMMUNITY AND THE PEOPLE LIVING THERE? SO, UM, GETTING CARS OFF THE STREET IS IMPORTANT TO ME AND I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO GO TO THE 1.3 PARKING SPACES. BUT MY QUESTION NOW IS WOULD YOU AGREE TO INCREASE THE PARKING SPACES? YES. AND CAN YOU GIMME, I MEAN, UH, WOULD YOU GO UP TO THE 1.5 OR YEAH. OR ONE FOR ONE, WHAT WOULD YOU AGREE TO DO? UM, I THINK WE CAN GO UP TO THE 1.5. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. UM, OKAY, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UH, COMMISSIONER SIPES, AND THEN TO ME, UNLESS THERE'S ANYONE ELSE. OKAY, THANKS. UM, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF REGARDING THE STORM WATER. I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS ON, ON STORM WATER. UM, IS THERE ANY, UH, PROCESS BY WHICH THE DEVELOPER COULD PAY A FEE IN LIEU OF ADDRESSING THE STORM WATER ON THIS? MY MY, AND THE REASON I'M ASKING THIS IS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH PROJECTS WHERE THEY'VE SAID, OH, WELL WE'RE GONNA DO UNDERGROUND STORAGE OF WATER, AND THEN THAT WAS IMMEDIATELY VALUE INJURED NEARED OUT LATER ON. SO THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM. SO THE STORMWATER DRAINAGE STUDIES HAVE TO, UH, BE REVIEWED DURING THE PLATT PROCESS, UM, AND IT HAS TO MEET CODE. THERE ARE, THERE ARE VARIETY OF WAYS IN WHICH THEY CAN MEET CODE. UM, JAMES, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU OR ENGINEER HAVE EXPLORED THOSE, UM, ALREADY TO SEE WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING AND YOU WANNA ADD ANY MORE TO IT, BUT, UM, YOU, THERE'S NO FEE IN LIEU OF YOU, YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS YOUR DRAINAGE. YOU, YOU AREN'T GOING, YOU AREN'T REQUIRED TO ADDRESS DRAINAGE THAT HAS THAT ALREADY EXIST IN THE AREA. YOU JUST CANNOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT BASED ON YOUR DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S STATE LAW. UH, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND GO UP THERE AND ADD SOME MORE IF YOU LIKE. CAN I ANSWER THAT TOO OR? YEP. SO WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE A, A PRETTY DETAILED BUDGET AND WE'RE NOT ASKING TO DO IN LIEU OF, WE CAN SAY THAT WE ACTUALLY WILL ADDRESS IT THERE ON SITE. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A WAIVER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW, THERE IS, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A VERY DETAILED BUDGET AND INCLUDES FIXING THE, UH, THAT ISSUE ADDRESSING THAT ISSUE. IT IS NOT PUTTING OFF OR PAYING INSTEAD OF. OKAY. THANKS. UM, AND THEN I GUESS, UH, TO THE ENGINEER, WHEN YOU SAID VERTICAL WALL DRAINAGE, ARE YOU TALKING LITERALLY LIKE A PIT LIKE WE SEE UP AT 1604 AND I 10? UH, YEAH. SO IN THAT, IN THAT AREA, YOU'RE [02:35:01] PROBABLY MOST LIKELY SEEING A WATER QUALITY TREATMENT THAT OFTEN USES THAT, THAT VERTICAL WALL COMPONENT. AND SO, UM, IN THAT SCENARIO THAT WE'VE STUDIED, UM, IDENTIFYING PLACES IN BETWEEN, UH, POTENTIAL MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN THE HIGHWAY, UH, THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, FIT, UM, A STRUCTURE THAT WOULD, WOULD BE VERTICAL WALLED, UM, BEHIND THERE TO, TO PROVIDE THE VOLUME, UM, IN LIEU OF WHAT'S, WHAT'S CURRENTLY OUT THERE RIGHT NOW. OKAY. THANKS. UM, THAT, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SIPES. UM, I HAVE ONE PROCEDURAL QUESTION FOR STAFF. UH, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD, UM, THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM SAHA INDICATE THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO GO TO 1.5 UNITS. IS THERE ANY WAY TO SORT OF INSTANTIATE THAT OR DO WE NEED SOME KIND OF AMENDMENT TO THEIR SITE PLAN THAT THEY NEED TO DO AT THE PODIUM TO, TO ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH THAT? THEY CAN ADD THAT TO THEIR SITE PLAN AND SUBMIT IT AS AN AMENDMENT BASED ON TODAY. OKAY. OKAY. YEP, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE REPRESENTATION THAT YOU'LL PROVIDE THAT SITE PLAN, UH, WITH 1.5 CARS PER UNIT. WE, TIM ALCO ON BEHALF OF SAHA, WE WILL SAN ANTONIO HOUSING AUTHORITY, WE WILL DO AN AMENDMENT WITH A 1.5 PARKING SPACES AND THE SITE PLAN. THANK YOU. HOPEFULLY I DID THAT CORRECTLY. I THINK SO. THANKS. WELL, LET'S SEE. CITY ATTORNEY. IS THAT OKAY? WE DID IT RIGHT. UH, ALRIGHT, SO ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, AND IF NOT, UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL TO YOU FOR MOTION AND DISCUSSION. THANK YOU. AND, UH, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR THE ANSWERING OF OUR QUESTIONS AND PATIENCE WHILE WE WORK THROUGH THIS. UM, THIS IS A, A, IT, IT IT'S A DIFFICULT CASE IN ONE VIEW. AND THEN ON THE OTHER IT JUST MAKES SENSE. THE AREA DOES NEED FURTHER DEVELOPMENT. AND, UM, WITH THAT, EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE SEVERAL, UM, ISSUES THAT STILL NEED TO BE WORKED OUT, I'M CONFIDENT THAT BETWEEN NOW AND COUNSEL THAT DISCUSSION AND, UM, AGREEMENT OR A MODIFICATION, IF YOU WILL, OF THE SITE PLAN WILL MOVE THIS FORWARD. SO WITH THAT, I WILL MAKE A RE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL AS AMENDED. AS AMENDED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR AS AMENDED. IS THERE A SECOND? WHO WE SECOND? OKAY. THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL AS AMENDED BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHEAT. UM, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT. YEAH, BRIEFLY. UM, I APPRECIATE, UH, JAMES AND, AND THE TEAM OVER THERE AND, AND, AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE TO, UH, WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS THERE. UM, I ALSO APPRECIATE THE AMENDMENT TODAY TO THE, TO THE 1.5, UM, PARKING SPOTS. UH, I JUST THINK THAT THIS FITS, UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION. UH, I UNDERSTAND, UH, THOUGH I WANT TO TELL, TELL THE NEIGHBORS I UNDERSTAND THE POSITION. UM, I, I GET IT. UH, CHANGE IS TOUGH, UM, DEVELOPMENT. SOMEHOW THE BURDENS OF DEVELOPMENT DON'T GET ALWAYS SHARED EQUALLY, UH, WITH EVERYBODY. AND SOME PEOPLE BEAR THE BRUNT OF IT MORE THAN OTHERS. UM, BUT, UH, SO, SO I SYMPATHIZE THERE. UH, BUT I DO THINK THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE, UH, LAND USE, UM, FOR THIS, FOR THIS PARTICULAR SPOT. AND SO I WILL, UH, BE SUPPORTING, UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL'S MOTION. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. WHITE COMMISSIONER TO MY WRIGHT DISCUSSION. WE'LL, WE'LL GO SIPES JONES IF WE AS YES, I, I, I I BELIEVE THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME ACCOMMODATION. UM, I ALSO KNOW THAT THE LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD IS IN FAVOR OF DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE. UM, HOWEVER, UM, THERE FOR ME, THERE'S STILL TOO MANY QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED FOR THIS SOUTH POND. UM, AND IT, TO ME, IT'S TOO CLOSE TO, TO LAY STREET. UM, AND SO AT THIS TIME I CANNOT SUPPORT THE MOTION. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SIPES. COMMISSIONER JONES, ANY DISCUSSION? NO, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WHEAT? NO, UH, COMMISSIONER MCGEE DISCUSSION? YES. UM, I STILL, UH, LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE. I FEEL LIKE THERE'S STILL SOME ROOM FOR SOME WORK, UM, WITH, UM, SOME OF THE, UM, REQUESTS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, HAS MADE. I, I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM FOR, UM, [02:40:03] ENHANCING OF THE PLAN, SHOULD I SAY. SO I I'M ON THE FENCE AT THIS POINT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MCGEE. UH, DR. ROMEO DISCUSSION. UM, YES. SO, UH, THIS, THIS IS A REALLY, REALLY HARD CASE. IT'S ONE OF THE HARDEST ONES I CAN RECALL. UM, IT'S, IT'S A ZONING QUESTION WRAPPED IN A POLICY ISSUE AND A DIFFICULT POLICY ISSUE. AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO SEPARATE OUT THE ZONING ISSUE, WHICH I KNOW ALL OF US ARE DOING, AND THAT'S WHAT WE ALWAYS HAVE TO DO. UM, I GUESS IF, IF I LIVED ON LEE STREET, I WOULD'VE BEEN, UH, I WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN HAPPY WITH MR. MCKNIGHT'S RESPONSE THAT THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE NA WHEN THE CITY GROWS AND IT'S, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA SUCK IT UP AND HAVE ALL THAT PAIN. THAT'S NOT ANYTHING THE NEIGHBORS WANNA HEAR, AND IT'S NOT ANYTHING WE WANNA IMPOSE ON THEM. UH, BUT A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS ARE, ARE POLICY QUESTIONS, UM, THAT WE REALLY CAN'T ADDRESS HERE. SO ISSUES LIKE THE STREET EXTENSION AND, UH, THE TRAFFIC FLOW AND THE PARKING, I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE'S REAL, REALLY ANY POINT IN US DISCUSSING THOSE. BUT I, I DO WANNA SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IT JUST, THERE IS THAT TRADE, THERE'S TWO THINGS. THERE'S, THERE'S THE PARKING AND THERE'S THE STREETS. AND I DON'T THINK IT ALWAYS MAKES SENSE TO HAVE MORE PARKING SPACES. I KNOW THAT WHEN YOU HAVE MORE OFFSITE PARKING, IT MEANS THERE'S LESS PARKING ON THE STREETS, AND THAT'S GOOD, AND THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN YOU HAVE MORE OFFSITE PARKING, PEOPLE ARE GONNA GET MORE CARS AND THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT MORE TRAFFIC ON THE STREETS. SO I'M NOT NECESSARILY SURE THOSE TWO THINGS AREN'T ACROSS PURPOSES. AND I HOPE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS CONSIDERED AS WE GO FORWARD ON THIS. 'CAUSE WE CAN'T JUST KEEP HAVING MORE AND MORE PARKING GARAGES AND COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW MUCH TRAFFIC THERE IS ON THE STREET. UM, I, I DO HOPE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, AND I THINK IT WILL BE RESOLVED MORE AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL, WHERE THEY JUST HAVE A LOT MORE LEEWAY TO DISCUSS THESE BIGGER ISSUES. SO I'M NOT TRYING TO JUST PUSH IT OFF, BUT THAT REALLY IS WHERE THOSE THINGS CAN BE DECIDED. SO FOR ME, YOU KNOW, STAFF'S RESPONSE ABOUT WHY THEY SUPPORTED THE, THE CHANGE, BECAUSE I D Z TWO AND THREE IS, IS MORE AMENABLE REALLY TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S, IT'S DIFFERENT FROM WHAT'S THERE NOW, WHICH IN MANY CASES IS NOTHING. BUT IT'S COMPARED TO WHAT COULD BE THERE WITH THE EXISTING ZONING IS, IS THE QUESTION I ALWAYS GO TO. SO, UM, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU DR. ROMERO. UM, MY BRIEF COMMENTS, UH, AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL FOR THE LAST WORD. UM, THIS IS A DIFFICULT CASE AS BEEN, AS HAS BEEN POINTED OUT. UM, I HOPE THAT EVERYONE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK AS THEY GO FORWARD TO COUNCIL AS YOU GO FORWARD AND THIS DEVELOPMENT. SHOULD IT GET APPROVED AT COUNCIL TO ADDRESS THINGS LIKE THE PARKING, SOME OF THOSE POLICY ISSUES, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S RESTRICTED PARKING, RESIDENT RESTRICTED PARKING, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AVAILABLE TO YOU THAT AREN'T AVAILABLE FOR US TO DISCUSS AS DR. ROMEO HAS POINTED OUT. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK I WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION AND I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE, EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THIS TO CONTINUE TO WORK TO TRY TO FIND THE ACCOMMODATION. 'CAUSE I BELIEVE IT IS THERE. UM, SO WITH THAT COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL TO YOU FOR THE LAST WORD, THANK YOU. AND MY COLLEAGUES HAVE, UH, PRETTY MUCH COVERED THE GAMBIT OF EVERYTHING THAT WE FEEL UP HERE ON THE D WHEN WE'RE CONSIDERING THESE CASES. UM, WE WANT, UM, THE DEVELOPERS TO BE ABLE TO, TO BRING US THE HOUSING THAT'S NEEDED. UM, WE WANT OUR RESIDENTS THAT ARE EXISTING THERE TO BE ABLE TO, UM, COEXIST WITH WHATEVER THAT DEVELOPMENT BRINGS. AND I LIKE TO USE THE TERM GOOD NEIGHBORS. I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO BE MORE GOOD NEIGHBORS TO EACH OTHER WHEN WE'RE COMING UP WITH THESE DEVELOPMENT PLANS. AND SAME THING GOES FOR THE RESIDENTS. WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO ACCEPT SOME OF THESE CHANGES. AND TO THAT EXTENT, LET ME JUST SAY FROM THE PEOPLE THAT I HEARD THERE, UH, LIVING ON LAY STREET, I WANNA THANK YOU BECAUSE MOST OF YOU HAS EX HAVE EXPRESSED TO ME YOUR WILLINGNESS AND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT. AND, AND ASIDE FROM THE ACTUAL DENSITY AND NUMBERS, THE BIGGEST CONCERN HAS BEEN THE TRAFFIC THROUGH THE RESIDENTIAL STREETS. AND IT'S JUST LIKE DR. ROMERO SAID THAT THOSE ARE POLICY QUESTIONS AND NOT ANYTHING THAT EVEN THOUGH WE WOULD LIKE TO, UH, NOT MUCH THAT WE CAN DO ABOUT IT HERE IN CONSIDERING THE ACTUAL ZONING CASE AND WHETHER THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE LAND USE. UM, I, I WOULD PREFER THAT THE DENSITY BE A LITTLE BIT LESS, BUT, UM, IT IS ACCEPTABLE UNDER I D Z THREE AND TWO AND THREE. AND I DO THINK THAT IT GIVES SOME PROTECTIONS AND THEREFORE [02:45:01] THAT'S THE REASON WHY I OFFERED THAT MOTION TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. UM, HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE IN DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNCIL AND THE RESIDENTS, UM, AND CONTINUE TO MOVE SOME POSITIVE STEPS FORWARD TO, TO MAKE THIS A PROJECT THAT JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY CAN COEXIST WITH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. THAT ENDS OUR DISCUSSION. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? NO. CHAIR BUSTAMANTE AYE. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. I KNOW THAT THIS MAY NOT HAVE BEEN THE OUTCOME YOU WANTED IN MANY CASES, BUT WE DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND WE DO APPRECIATE Y'ALL COMING HERE AND TELLING US YOUR POSITIONS. CHAIR BUSANTE. YES. UM, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ONTO ITEM NUMBER 18. THIS ITEM WAS YEAH, MISSED IN THE BEGINNING. UH, THERE WAS A MIX UP AND THE SIGNUP, THAT ITEM THAT IS NEEDED TO BE CONSIDERED IS STILL ON INDIVIDUAL. SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET 18 OUT OF THE WAY. THANK YOU. AND THE TIME IS 3 58. AND LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS RETURNED IN TRIUMPH. UM, SORRY, I DON'T KNOW WHY I SAID THAT, BUT, UM, IN ANY EVENT, UH, LET'S BEGIN WITH [18. ZONING CASE Z202110700187 (Council District 2): A request for a change in zoning from “C3 MLOD3 MLR1 AHOD” General Commercial Martindale Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District and “I1 MLOD3 MLR1 AHOD” General Industrial Martindale Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District to “I1 MLOD3 MLR1 AHOD” General Industrial Martindale Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District on 15.40 acres out of NCB 12191 and NCB 16095, located at 4803 Rittiman Road. Staff recommends Approval. (Catherine Hernandez, Development Services Administrator, 2102075085, catherine.hernandez@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)] ITEM NUMBER 18. I'M GETTING A LITTLE PUNCH DRUNK. YES. AND I JUST WANNA CLARIFY OFFICIALLY SO THAT THE INDIVIDUALS SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE PASSING THEM UP. UH, DIANE TORRES, JOHN JOSEPH ONG, TORRE TORRES AND HENRY NUNEZ, YOU SIGNED UP FOR ITEM 18, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY ITEM NUMBER FIVE. UH, THEY'RE, BOTH OF THESE ADDRESSES ARE ON RIMAN ROAD. THIS IS NOT, UH, THE PRIVATE CLUB CASE. , SO, OKAY. THIS WOULD'VE BEEN ON CONSENT, BUT FOR THAT MISUNDERSTANDING. CORRECT. OKAY. SO ITEM 18 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE AND I ONE TO I ONE ALL OVER LASER REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 48 0 3 RIMAN ROAD. THERE WERE 33 NOTICES MAILED NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR? NONE IN OPPOSITION. MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU. AS I MENTIONED, THIS ITEM WOULD HAVE BEEN ON CONSENT, BUT FOR A MISUNDERSTANDING, LET ME JUST CONFIRM THAT NO ONE HERE PRESENT IS HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. HEARING NONE. UM, IS THERE A MOTION? SORRY. IT IS DISTRICT TWO. SO DR. JONES TO YOU? YES. UH, I MOVE APPROVAL OF, UM, ITEM 18 AT 48 0 3. DERMAN. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALRIGHT. UH, THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY DR. JONES AND THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITE. UH, ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. MOTION PASSES. ALRIGHT, NOW WE WILL GO BACK AND WE [5. ZONING CASE Z202110700153 CD (Council District 2): A request for a change in zoning from “C2 MLOD3 MLR2 AHOD” Commercial Martindale Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District and "O2 MLOD3 MLR2 AHOD" High Rise Office Martindale Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C2 CD MLOD3 MLR2 AHOD” Commercial Martindale Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District with a Conditional Use for a Live Entertainment With Cover Charge 3 or More Days Per Week on the west 180.22 feet of Lot 10, Block 4, NCB 13717, located at 4401 Rittiman Road. Staff recommends Denial. (Mirko Maravi, Senior Planner (210) 2070107, mirko.maravi@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)] WILL BEGIN WITH, UH, ITEM NUMBER FIVE. ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO. ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO AND O TWO TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT WITH COVER CHARGE THREE OR MORE DAYS PER WEEK. LOCATED AT 44 0 1 RIMAN ROAD, THERE WERE 26 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, 20 RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION. AND EAST TERRELL HILLS IS OPPOSED. THERE WERE FIVE OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA THAT WERE OPPOSED AS WELL. STAFF FINDS EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. ALTHOUGH THE REQUESTED C TWO COMMERCIAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE C THREE A TO THE WEST OF [02:50:01] THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE C TWO TO THE EAST, THE REQUEST FOR CD LIVE ENTERTAINMENT USE IN A BUILDING DIRECTLY ABUTTING RESIDENTIAL USES WITHOUT APPROPRIATE BUFFERS AND SETBACKS WOULD CREATE A NEGATIVE IMPACT DUE TO LOUD MUSIC AND TRAFFIC IMPACTS FROM ANY OTHER LIVE ENTERTAINMENT USE FOR CONCERTS. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES. OKAY. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME UP, INTRODUCE YOURSELF, GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US WHY YOU ARE SEEKING THIS RE RESIGNING, PLEASE. OH, I'M RICHARD CHRISTOPHER VANDER. GRIFF AT, UH, 44 35 RMAN ROAD. SORRY. I HAVE A LUNG CONDITION AND IT'S BEEN ACTING UP SO MY VOICES IS A LITTLE SCRATCHY. UM, I WANT TO, UM, I RENTED A SPACE, THE OWNER OF IT THOUGHT IT WAS STILL ZONED THE WAY IT WAS, UM, BACK WHEN IT WAS C THREE, I BELIEVE. UM, WHEN I RENTED THE SPACE, THEY TOLD ME IT WAS STILL AVAILABLE FOR THAT THEIR LEASING AGENT. CON SAID THEY CONTACTED THE CITY AND SAID IT WAS STILL GOOD FOR THAT. I PUT A LITTLE MONEY IN THE REMODELING AND THEN ONCE I STARTED OPENING UP, THEY CAME TO ME AND SAID IT WASN'T, UM, IT'S ACTUALLY, UM, WHEN WE SAY LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, IT'S JUST DJ. UM, WE, WE, WE HAVE A DECIMAL. WE HAVE DONE, WE HAVE DONE TEST RUNS AND IT'S ACTUALLY A PRIVATE CLUB FOR THE L G B T COMMUNITY THAT ARE IN, UH, FOR COUPLES. THERE ARE L G D P CLUBS FOR SINGLES, BUT THIS IS ONE FOR COUPLES. UM, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE LIKE THIS IN THE SAN ANTONIO CALLED PLAYERS CLUB THAT'S SIMILAR. UM, THIS AREA, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WAS PICKED BECAUSE IT IS AN L G B T COMMUNITY AREA. UM, THEY'RE THE, THE, UM, THE PEOPLE THAT ATTEND THESE, UM, NON-PRIVATE MEMBER CLUBS ARE UPPER SCALE PEOPLE. UM, BEFORE THE, I'VE TALKED TO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS AND THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT, UM, RIFF RAFT, UM, CRIME AND STUFF. UM, THAT WAS WHEN IT WAS A HOOK, A HOOKA HOOKA LOUNGE. UM, IF I DON'T HAVE THIS PRIVATE CLUB, THE OWNER IS GONNA END UP GIVING AT LEAST SENDING IT TO SOMEONE THAT IS A HOOKAH LOUNGE. AND THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT, THAT PROVIDE, UM, THE CRIME. OUR MEMBERS ARE OR GOOD PEOPLE, UH, TEACHERS, LAWYERS, DOCTORS, NURSES, CITY WORKERS, UM, POLICE OFFICERS, MILITARIES. UM, THEY WERE, THEY WERE, UM, THEY SAID THERE'S BEEN SHOOTINGS THERE BEFORE. UM, ON THERE, IF THERE'S A POLICE OFFICER OR SOMEONE THAT'S FIRST RESPONDER AND THERE'S A SHOOTING THERE, YOU CAN GUARANTEE THAT THE POLICE WILL BE THERE IMMEDIATELY. UM, THEIR, THEIR COMMUNITY IS A LITTLE SAFER WITH THIS TYPE OF CLUB THERE THAN IF IT WAS A HOOKAH LOUNGE OR, OR VICE VERSA. UM, THEY HAD CONCERNS OF HOMELESS PEOPLE COMING IN THE BACK PART OF THE BUILDING THAT MEETS UP BETWEEN THEIR, THEIR, THEIR PROPERTY AND, AND WHERE THE, WHERE THE BUILDING IS. UM, SINCE THEN, I HAVE PUT UP A FENCE TO KEEP TRU RESERS OUT FROM BEHIND THE BUILDING THAT PROTECTS MY, THAT PROTECTS THE, MY BUILDING AND PROTECTS THE NEIGHBORS TO BEHIND, DIRECTLY BEHIND ME. UM, THIS ISN'T A BAD OR NUISANCE TO THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE ONLY GONNA BE OPEN THREE DAYS A WEEK. UM, UM, AT NIGHTTIME WE DO HAVE A DECIMAL METER. WE'VE HAD VICE COME IN AND WALK THE FACILITIES. WE'VE HAD VICE CHECKED, UM, WE'VE DONE MUSIC LEVELS AND WE'VE HAD WALKED THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A DECIMAL READER. UM, WE'RE, WE'RE, UM, WE DO EVERY, WE WILL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO WORK WITH OUR NEIGHBORS. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE A PLACE FOR US TO, TO, TO HAVE. THANK YOU MR. VANDER GROUP. UM, STAFF, PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKERS PRESENT? YES, SIR. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS ISLA. THANK YOU. MR. LOPEZ. YES, MS. LOPEZ. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOD BLESS YOU GUYS. UM, IF YOU WOULD, MS. LOPEZ, UH, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. OKAY. MAYBE PULL THE MICROPHONE DOWN A LITTLE BIT TOO. , YOU REALLY NEED THIS ? YES, WE DO. THANK YOU. OH, IT'S OFF ELSA LOPEZ. I LIVE AT 44 10 MYRNA DRIVE. I'VE BEEN IN SAN ANTONIO THREE YEARS. OKAY. I BOUGHT MY PROPERTY WHEN I LEFT NEW YORK. I DON'T THINK THIS PLACE SHOULD BE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S NOT PROPER. AND ANYBODY THAT FEELS IT'S PROPER, THEY SHOULD PUT IT IN [02:55:01] THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS OR BEHIND THEIR HOMES. I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY. I'M SORRY. HE PUT MONEY IN. YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT WAS NOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT WHEN YOU WERE GETTING INTO THAT PLACE, IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE THERE. SO YOU TOOK A CHANCE AND NOW YOU WANNA CHANGE THE LAW. I DON'T THINK THAT'S PROPER FOR ANYBODY TO CHANGE THE LAW, TO ACCOMMODATE ANYBODY. IF IT'S LAW, IT'S LAW. AND THAT IS AGAINST MORAL CHRISTIANITY. IT SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED. AND I'M HOPING THAT YOU GUYS, MEN AND WOMEN WILL KNOW THAT THIS SHOULD NOT BE PASSED. IT SHOULDN'T. OKAY. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU MS. LOPEZ. IF I GOT ANY TIME LEFT OVER, GIVE IT TO JOHN. UNFORTUNATELY WE CAN'T GIVE THE TIME, BUT , BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. I'M JUST GONNA SAY REVEREND JAMES BECAUSE I CAN'T READ YOUR LAST NAME. SHEEN BIRD. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD SCOTT. I HAVE TO SAY THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH, BUT THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT LESSON TODAY IN CIVICS, YOU KNOW, AND FROM THE DAYS WHEN, UH, I USED TO BE AT, UH, ST. TIMOTHY'S ON THE WEST SIDE WHERE WE WERE WITH THE COPS ORGANIZATION IN THE OLD CITY HALL. AND I HAVE TO SAY THOSE WERE SOME GOOD DAYS BACK THEN. UH, MY NAME IS REVEREND SHELLENBERGER AND I LIVE AT 43 10, OR I DON'T LAUGH. I LIVE ON BIKINI STREET AND EAST TERRELL HILLS, DISTRICT NUMBER TWO. AND EVEN THOUGH WE HAD THE TITLE TERRELL HILLS, I HAVE TO SAY WE'RE ON THE POOR SIDE OF TERRELL HILLS, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS AGAINST THIS REZONING AT 44 0 1 RIMAN ROAD. BUT WHILE, UH, WE ARE AGAINST THIS, BUT I WANT TO SAY THAT WE ARE ALSO A VERY INCLUSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT NEEDS TO BE FOR THE RECORD AND, UH, THE PROPOSED PROPERTY CLUB EDEN, IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T REFLECT THE VALUES OF EAST TERRA HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, NOR THE AREA. AND NOR DOES IT PROVIDE ANY VALUE OR LIFE GIVING VALUE TO OUR AREA FOR RESIDENTS NEAR THE CLUB OR AROUND, UH, THEY DO NOT NEED LATE HOUR, LATE NIGHT HOURS OR POTENTIAL UNRULY CIV CIVIL ACTIVITIES AFTER HOURS IN THE PARKING LOT. AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT IN LIGHT OF NEW LEGISLATION, EFFECTIVE ONE SEPTEMBER, ALLOWING INDIVIDUALS OVER 21 TO CARRY GUNS WITHOUT PERMITS OR TRAINING, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF NASTY ACTIVITIES OR DISTURBANCES. SO THIS PARTICULAR ESTABLISHMENT, IT DOESN'T FIT INTO OUR AREA AND IT ONLY, UH, DISTRACTS. SO I WOULD, UH, ASK THAT AS PART OF EAST TERRELL HILLS THAT SHE VOTE AGAINST REZONING AT 44 0 1 RIMAN ROAD. I THINK IF IT WAS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF A CLUB WHERE THERE WASN'T A PLAYHOUSE TYPE OF ACTIVITY, I THINK IT WOULD BE MUCH DIFFERENT. BUT IN THE GOOGLE AND YOU CAN GOOGLE YOURSELVES AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT, AND IT HAS ALL TYPES OF, UH, ACTIVITIES AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD, WE, I DON'T, I KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T WANT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IF IT WAS A GOOD OLD REGULAR BAR FOR ANYBODY, WHETHER L G B T Q, WHETHER FOR STRAIGHT, UH, BISEXUAL, TRANSSEXUAL, TRANSGENDER, THEN THAT'S, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT PIECE OF CAKE. BUT TO HAVE A LOT OF EXTRA ACTIVITIES THAT GO ON JUST MAY NOT BE, IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE AREA. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FATHER. UH, STAFF. NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE. DIANE TORRES, PLEASE. MY NAME IS DIANE TORRES. I LIVE AT 44 0 6 MYRNA, WHICH IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THIS CLUB THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN. AND I'VE LIVED IN EAST HAR HILLS FOR LIKE, UM, 45 YEARS. AND THIS AREA, PARTICULARLY THAT ADDRESS WHERE THE CLUB EDEN IS, I'VE SEEN IT CHANGE YEAR AFTER YEAR. UH, [03:00:01] AND IT'S GOTTEN WORSE AND WORSE AND WORSE. AND WITH EVERY TIME IT CHANGES, IT JUST, UM, CHANGES THE ENVIRONMENT, THE ATMOSPHERE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. A SEXUALLY ORIENTED UM, CLUB IS JUST NOT APPROPRIATE FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG, UH, COUPLES MOVING IN WITH THEIR YOUNG CHILDREN BECAUSE OF THE MILITARY THAT'S CLOSE, SO CLOSE. AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THERE ARE, UM, TRYING TO RAISE THEIR CHILDREN WITH GOOD MORALS AND I'M SORRY, BUT I DON'T THINK THIS CLUB REPRESENTS GOOD MORALS FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF ELDERLY RETIRED PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEIR HEALTH DEPENDS ON GOOD NIGHT'S SLEEP. I'M A NURSE SO I LOOK AT THAT ASPECT, BUT, UM, THEY, IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET SLEEP, UM, WITH MUSIC PLAYING TILL FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, YOU KNOW, AND THIS, THIS CLUB IS USING A DJ, WHICH, UM, WILL BE DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER CLUBS THAT WE'VE HAD. BUT STILL, I THINK, THINK IT'S, UH, A DISTURBANCE IN THE, IN THE, THE ATMOSPHERE OF IT. UH, A SWINGERS CLUB OR A LIVE ENTERTAINMENT DOES NOT FIT IN WITH A FAMILY BASED NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE EAST TURTLE HILLS. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE'S SEXUAL ORIENTATION, UM, OR PRACTICES OR HOW THEY WISH TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES. I JUST DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE DONE SO CLOSE TO A RESIDENTIAL AREA. AND UNFORTUNATELY MY HOME AND FOUR OTHER NEIGHBORS, THEIR RESIDENCE BORDERS THAT BUILDING. OKAY. AND UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T THINK THAT OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, UM, GIVES ANY CREDENCE AS TO HOW IT AFFECTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, UH, HE RENTS TO ANYBODY. 'CAUSE IT'S BEEN WHEN THEY HAD, WHEN IT WAS, UH, BLOW HOOK, A LOUNGE, IT WAS HORRIBLE, TERRIBLE. ANYWAY, UM, WE'VE CALLED LOTS. THAT'S POLICE. I MEAN, FROM MY HOME ALONE, YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF POLICE CALLS FROM THERE BECAUSE OF THE DISTURBANCES THAT IT'S CAUSED. UM, THERE IS NOW A POKER CLUB THERE. AND, UM, AND THAT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM DISTRICT TWO, UH, FIELD OFFICE ON RIMAN ROAD. AND, UH, A SWINGERS CLUB. A POKERS CLUB. WHAT ELSE IS GONNA BE ALLOWED TO BE GO IN, YOU KNOW, AN ADULT BOOKSTORE? I, I HAVE NO, NO IDEA WHAT ELSE IS POSSIBLY GO. BUT THESE TYPES OF BUSINESSES, THEY, ALL THEY DO IS LEAD TO, UM, AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC, INCREASE IN DISTURBANCE OF THE PEACE AND QUIETNESS. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT LAND LIKE THAT THE YOUTH SHOULD BE BENEFIT, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE, AND THE FAMILIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. EASTER HILLS WILL NOT REAP ANY, UH, BENEFITS FROM, FROM THE ESTABLISHMENT. THAT'S THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU. MS. TORRES. MM-HMM. . JOHN JOSEPH TORRES. PLEASE PRESENT ACCOUNTED FOR THANK GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I'M NOT THE BEST PUBLIC SPEAKER IN MY TIME OF SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY. UM, MR. TORRES, IF YOU WOULD JUST SAY YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE. I WILL. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS JOHN JOSEPH TORRES AND I LIVE AT 44 0 6 MYRNA. IS MY TIME STARTING IT'S YES, SIR. YES. IT'S BEEN SAID THAT THE MILITARY GOES THERE. WELL, THIS IS A MILITARY BIBLE AND IN GOD'S LAW, GOD SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY. IT'S ALSO IN THE MANUAL COURT MARTIAL. SO I HOPE THAT PEOPLE QUIT SPREADING THAT THE MILITARY COMES HERE BECAUSE IT WILL BE OFF LIMITS PRETTY SOON. ANYWAYS, I'M NOT THE BEST SPEAKER, BUT MY NAME IS JOHN JILL TORRES. I LIVE BEHIND CLUB EDEN IN EAST TERRELL HILLS. JUST LOOK 'EM UP ON YOUTUBE CLUB. EDEN IS A WIFE SWAPPING SEX CLUB ACCORDING TO THEIR AD. THEY, THEY HAVE A ROOM WITH SEVERAL MATTRESSES, EXCUSE ME, ON THE FLOOR, A MOVIE ROOM, A STRIPPER POLES, AND A DUNGEON WITH A CROSS SHAPED MASSAGE TABLE. WEAR B D S AND M PURPOSES. THEY ARE A SEX CLUB FRANCHISE COMING DOWN FROM DALLAS FORT WORTH TO EXPAND THEIR BRAND. CLUB EDEN IS AN L L C WITH THEIR OWN LINE OF MERCHANDISE, EXCUSE ME, AND THEIR OWN LOGO. ACCORDING TO MR. STEVEN JONES, DALLAS CLUB MANAGER, THEY LOOK FOR AREAS THAT ARE CHEAP AND LOW RENT. ONE HALF OF THEIR BUILDING WAS AT ONE TIME AN AFRICAN AMERICAN CHURCH. WHAT IS VERY SAD IS THEY, TO EXPAND THE SIZE OF THEIR CLUB, THE OLD CHURCH HAD TO BE REMODELED. AND DESECRATED ALSO SAD IS THE FACT THAT THE PLYMOUTH BROTHER AND CHRISTIAN CHURCH IS ACROSS THE STREET AND APPROXIMATELY 200 FEET IN DISTANCE FROM FROM CLUB EDEN. OUR PLANNING COMMISSION WAS MISINFORMED THAT NO WORD HAD BEEN RECEIVED FROM OUR EAST HAR HILLS LEADERSHIP. THIS WAS FALSE AND UNTRUE. OUR PRESIDENT, ELDON KEGEL, WHO NOW [03:05:01] IS RECOVERING FROM COVID, WAS VERY DISPLEASED THAT HIS WRITTEN REMARKS WERE OVERLOOKED. I POINT A FINGER AT NOBODY, I'M JUST MAKING A STATEMENT. HAD HIS REMARKS BEEN READ PRIOR TO THE VIRTUAL MEETING, THE OUTCOME OF THE VOTE WOULD HAVE BEEN A DIFFERENT ONE. MY ONLY HOPE FOR OUR CITY IS THAT THE FUTURE IS THAT OUR LEADERS WILL BE FULLY INFORMED OF WHAT THEY VOTE FOR AND NOT CAST A BLIND VOTE. DON'T CHANGE OUR ZONING CLUB FOR CLUB EDEN. CLUB EDEN IS NOT FIT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR ANY OTHER THAT ARE RAISING KIDS. PLEASE DON'T VOTE THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUT OF EAST HARRELL HILLS. AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO GIVE SOMETHING BACK TO MR. VANDER GRIFF IF I CAN. MR. STEVEN JONES SLIPPED A GIFT CARD FROM OUTBACK STEAKHOUSE TO ME. I'D LIKE HIM TO RETURN IT. I REJECT IT. MY THING IS THANKS, BUT NO THANKS. IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? THANK YOU MR. TORRES. IT'S UP TO MR. VANDER. GRIFF. BUT CAN I NOT OUR, NOT OUR PURVIEW. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. MR. TORRES. STEPH HENRY NUNEZ. MR. GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, MY NAME'S HENRY NUNEZ. I LIVE ON 64 0 7 MELTON. I'M A RETIRED EDUCATOR COACH. AND, UM, DURING MY CAREER IT WAS MY JOB AND MY DUTY TO TEACH MORAL, UH, UH, EDUCATION. NOT ONLY EDUCATION WISE, BUT THE MORALITY OF EDUCATION AND LIFE. AND I FEEL THAT THE CLUB I'VE BEEN LIVING IN, IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD FOR COMING TO 30 YEARS NOW, AND THAT WHOLE, THAT WHOLE, UH, AREA THAT THEY'RE, UH, THAT THE GENTLEMAN'S TRYING TO OPEN UP OR OPENING UP A AREA THERE, UH, A, A BUSINESS THERE. UM, IT IT, IT HAD DIFFERENT, UH, BUSINESSES THERE, BUT MOST OF THE BUSINESSES WERE EITHER A CAFETERIA OR, OR SOME OTHER LITTLE CLOTHING OR BARBER SHOP. AND THAT WAS FINE. BUT WE HAD, UH, A CLUB THAT CAME THERE CALLED THE HOKA CLUB, AND, UH, THEY CAUSED A LOT OF PROBLEMS THERE. IT FINALLY VACATED, WENT TO ANOTHER SIDE OF TOWN, AND THEN A WEEK, TWO WEEKS LATER, THERE WAS A MURDER OUTSIDE OF THAT CLUB. AND SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHERE HE'S AT NOW, BUT I KNOW HE IS LOOKING TO OPEN UP A BUSINESS, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND. BUT I THINK A LOT OF THIS HAS TO COME DOWN TO THE OWNER. THE OWNER OF THE COMPLEX HAS TO TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT HE'S DONE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE GENTLEMAN UNDERSTOOD WHAT HAD HAPPENED THERE BEFORE, BUT I THINK THE OWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY TO LET HIM KNOW THAT THE NEIGHBOR'S THERE DO NOT APPRECIATE BUSINESSES LIKE THAT. UH, WE HAVE KIDS THAT HAVE, THAT ARE FAMILIES THAT ARE MOVING IN. UH, AND I FEEL THAT IT'S NOT A PROPER PLACE TO HAVE SUCH A BUSINESS THERE. ALRIGHT. WHAT THEY DO ON THEIR OWN TIME IS THEIR OWN TIME. BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT WHAT I WOULD WANT MY KIDS TO BE AROUND. MY KIDS ARE ALL GROWN UP NOW, BUT WE ARE THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S REVITALIZING AGAIN AND WE WANT FAMILIES TO COME IN AND IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE. IT'S A HIDDEN SPOT. I'VE HAD FRIENDS SAY, WAIT, THIS PLACE NEVER EXISTS. WE NEVER SAW IT. I SAID, YEAH, IT'S QUIET AND IT'S A REAL GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD. I WAS THE PAST PRISONER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION YEARS AGO, AND WE GOT STARTED ON THE PREMISE THAT WE'RE GONNA BRING PROSPERITY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, UH, OPEN IT UP TO FAMILIES THAT WANNA LIVE THERE. AND, UH, LIKE I SAID, I THINK HE NEEDS TO TAKE UP HIS BUSINESS WITH THE OWNER OF THAT COMPLEX. 'CAUSE THE O THE OWNER OF THE COMPLEX, I, THAT'S WHO I BLAME FOR ALL THIS. HE JUST WANTS TO EARN MONEY, MAKE MONEY, REGARDLESS OF WHAT'S BROUGHT INTO THE COMPLEX ITSELF. AND IF HE COULD, HE WOULD PROBABLY BRING OTHER KINDS OF BUSINESS IN THERE. RIGHT NOW IT'S, IT'S STARTING TO LOOK THAT WAY AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS THINK ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE, BUT I THINK IT'S, UH, TO ME IS, UH, YOU WOULDN'T WANT THIS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, OBVIOUSLY. AND SO I'VE CONSIDERED IT AND I DO OPPOSE, UH, THE CLUB THERE AND THE, UH, THE, UH, PROPOSITION OF, OF, UH, THE ZONING. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU MR. NUNEZ. STAFF. ANY FURTHER SPEAKERS? WE HAVE ONE VOICEMAIL TO PLACE, SIR. OKAY. IF WE COULD PLAY THAT ONE VOICEMAIL PLEASE. MESSAGE IS FOR CASE Z DASH 2 0 2 1 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 1 5 3 CD FOR MEETING EIGHT 17 TO, UH, 2021 1:00 PM MY NAME IS GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS ALISON MERRICK. I LIVE AT 44 15 MYRNA DRIVE. I I READ IN HILL SINCE 1983. MY TELEPHONE NUMBER IS (210) 262-7210. [03:10:02] I AM RESPONDING TO THE CURRENT PROPOSED ZONING AND HAVE A FEW MAJOR CONCERNS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS. NUMBER ONE, PLEASE DEFINE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT. WE ATTRACT WHAT WE SELL. WE HAVE HAD NEGATIVE EXPERIENCE WITH THE LAST CLUB, WITH SHOOTING, TRASHING THE NEIGHBORHOOD TILL THE EARLY MORNING HOURS 4:00 AM ALONG WITH VERY LOUD MUSIC, GUNSHOTS RACING UP AND DOWN, MYRNA AND MELTED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AS WELL AS ALONG RMAN ROAD. NUMBER TWO, BORDERING NEIGHBORS ARE VERY FRIGHTENED AND HERE FOR THEIR LIVES. MOST OF US IN THIS SECTOR ARE RETIRED AND CANNOT AFFORD TO MOVE. IN ADDITION, PROPERTY TAXES HAVE GONE UP. WHILE MARKET VALUES COULD BE THREATENED BY THE TYPE OF BUSINESS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, THE REPUTATION OF THE LOCATION AFFECTS THE MARKET VALUE OF OUR PROPERTY, YET WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE HIGH TAXES. EXAMPLE, WIND DEPART MALL NEVER RECOVERED AFTER SOMEONE WAS SHOT AT THE BUS STATION AND, AND THE MEDIA BLEW IT UP IN THE NEWS. NO ONE WANTED TO SHOP THERE. AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THIS IS A GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD, GOOD PEOPLE BUSINESS IS APPRECIATED, BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS THAT WE ARE ATTRACTING AND ALSO TO PROTECT OUR, UM, RESIDENTS. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE. THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. VANDER. GRIFF, YOU HAVE A, A COUPLE OF MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL. YES, THANK YOU. UM, I GUESS WHAT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND IS THEIR WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD IS FULL OF L G B T Q PEOPLE. I DON'T LIKE TO, WE DON'T, I DON'T, SWINGERS IS AN OLD WORD, WHETHER THEY WANT TO SAY SWINGERS, WE DON'T LIKE TO BE LABELED OR ANYTHING, BUT THEY'RE ALL IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IF THEY DON'T HAVE A CERTAIN BUILDING PLACES TO GO, THEY'RE JUST GONNA DO IT IN THEIR HOMES, LITERALLY NEXT DOOR WITH NO, WITH NO, UM, GUIDANCE FROM THE CITY. NO LAWS PROTECT. SO I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE KIND OF MISINFORMED AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE UP HERE JUST TALKING ABOUT MORALS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT MAKES THEY THINK THEIR MORALS ARE BETTER THAN MY MORALS. WE'RE HERE ABOUT A ZONING THING. UM, WE ALL LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS COMMUNITY, AND WE ALL NEED TO SHARE IT, DO WE? SO I DON'T, I DON'T, UM, UH, THEY, THE, THE, THERE'S A SECTION EIGHT APARTMENTS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THEM, BASICALLY THAT'S FULL OF DRUG DEALERS, PIMPS AND, AND, AND REALLY LOW LIVE PEOPLE, BUT THEY'RE NOT REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THAT. SO I'M JUST, I FEEL MORE TARGETED ABOUT THE L G B T Q THING THAN ANYTHING. UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE ALL UPPER MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE. UM, THEY'VE ALL, AND YES, THERE IS TONS OF MILITARY PEOPLE THERE. UM, THERE IS TONS OF MILITARY PEOPLE THAT ARE L G B T Q, UM, WOMEN AND, AND MEN. UM, THERE'S A BUNCH OF CITY WORKERS. THERE'S A BUNCH OF COPS, THERE'S A BUNCH OF TEACHERS. I MEAN, WE DESERVE A, A REC, A REC PLACE TO GO INSTEAD OF DOING, DOING THIS STUFF IN PEOPLE'S HOUSES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. UM, I, I HOPE YOU, HOPE YOU REZONE FOR ME. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THERE'S NOT GONNA BE AN ISSUE WITH ANY NEIGHBORS. I'M ALWAYS GONNA WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND ALWAYS WORK WITH THE CITY. UM, WE'RE, WE, WE ALWAYS DO DONATIONS FOR ANYTHING THAT'S, FOR ANY LOCAL HELP THAT PEOPLE NEED. EVEN THE CHURCH THAT MIGHT NOT AGREE WITH THIS, IF THEY WERE IN NEED OF SOME KIND OF DONATIONS, UM, THE L G B T COMMUNITY DEFINITELY WOULD BE THERE FOR THEM. UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU MR. VANDER. GRIFF. ALRIGHT. THIS IS A DISTRICT TWO CASE. UH, SO DR. JONES TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. UH, YES. MR. VANDERCLIFF, THE, WHEN YOU SAY YOU'VE WORKED WITH THE, UH, NEIGHBORS, WHAT TYPE OF COMPROMISES DID YOU, DID YOU OFFER? UM, WE, I WAS WILLING TO PUT UP A FENCE AND I STARTED, STARTED MOST OF THE FENCE TO PROTECT THE HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT GO BEHIND THE BUILDING AND THEY JUMP FROM ONE. SO LITERALLY THE BACK OF THE BUILDING THAT, THAT BUTT SET WITH THE GENTLEMAN THAT GAVE ME THE GIFT CARD BACK. HOMELESS PEOPLE WOULD ACTUALLY GO THERE AND SLEEP. THEY WOULD JUMP OVER THE FENCE. HE HAS A LOT OF, UM, ITEMS OUT IN HIS BACKYARD SO THE HOMELESS PEOPLE WOULD JUMP OVER THE FENCE AND THEY LITERALLY TRIED TO STEAL THAT STUFF TO SOME FOR SOME KIND OF MONEY. UM, I, ON MY OWN, PUT UP A FENCE ON BOTH SIDES, UM, TO KEEP THE HOMELESS PEOPLE OUT. I EVEN TOLD THE GENTLEMAN THAT I WOULD PUT UP A HIGHER FENCE THAT I'M STILL GONNA DO. UM, I, I MAKE SURE THAT THE, UM, THAT THE, UM, I'VE, I'VE TALKED WITH THEM AND SAID, LET ME GIVE ONE, HERE'S MY NUMBER. IF THE MUSIC IS TOO LOUD, PLEASE CALL ME IMMEDIATELY SO WE CAN TURN IT DOWN. UM, WE HAVE A DB METER. WE, EVERY NIGHT WE GO OUT AND WE WALK THE FRONT OF THEIR HOUSES WITH THE DV METER TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THE DECIMAL LEVELS ARE RIGHT. UM, WE, UM, SINCE WE DO HAVE POLICE OFFICERS THAT'S IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT JOIN OUR MEMBERS OF US, WE ACTUALLY HAVE THEM GO OUT AND WE, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TOTALLY LEGAL. EVERYTHING IS RIGHT. [03:15:02] UM, WE JUST WANT A PLACE. UM, AND THEN THIS, THIS AREA WAS PICKED BECAUSE IT IS A BIG L G B T Q AREA OF SAN ANTONIO. UM, AND THEN IT'S, THERE'S ALSO OTHER TYPES OF BUSINESSES. LIKE THERE'S MASSAGE PARLORS CLOSE BY. I MEAN THIS, THIS, THIS AREA HAS BEEN, HAS BEEN THIS TYPE OF WAY SINCE THE LADY, SINCE SHE LIVED HERE FOR 30 PLUS YEARS. SO SHE'S BEEN LIVING WITH IT FOR 30 PLUS YEARS. 'CAUSE IT'S BEEN THAT WAY. RIGHT NOW THEY'RE GETTING A TENANT TO, TO USE THE NIGHTCLUB THAT'S GONNA BE RES RESPECTFUL TO THEM AND RESPECTFUL TO THE COMMUNITY, UM, THAT THEY'VE NEVER HAD BEFORE. BUT THEY'RE STILL FIGHTING IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE THE L G B T T Q MORAL PART OF IT. UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE ALL GONNA HAVE, WE'RE ALL GONNA THINK OUR MORALS ARE RIGHT OR WRONG, BUT THERE IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG TO, TO YOUR MORALS AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT BREAKING THE LAW. OR IN THAT CASE, I DON'T KNOW. BUT I, I DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. AND, AND ANOTHER QUESTION, WHAT WOULD BE THE HOURS? UM, OUR HOURS ARE, UM, THURSDAYS WOULD BE NINE TO TWO. FRIDAYS WOULD BE NINE TO THREE AND THURSDAYS, I MEAN, SATURDAY, I MEAN, SORRY, THURSDAYS NINE TO TWO, FRIDAYS NINE TO THREE, SATURDAYS NINE TO 4:00 AM. UM, WE ARE, ALL OF US ARE ALL, MOST OF US HAVE REALLY, REALLY GOOD JOBS, SO WE CAN'T ALWAYS GET OFF. RIGHT. RIGHT. AT SIX, WE WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT HAPPY HOUR PEOPLE. SO WE CAN'T GET THERE RIGHT AT FIVE O'CLOCK AND HAVE HAPPY HOUR. WE ALL HAVE FAMILIES, WE GOTTA GET HOME, WE GOTTA CHANGE CLOTHES, WE GOTTA TAKE CARE OF OUR KIDS, OUR GRANDKIDS, OR WHATEVER IT IS MAY BE. SO LATER ON, LATER IN THE NIGHT IS WHEN WE LIKE TO GET OUT. AND THEY MENTIONED SPECIAL ACTIVITIES. I MEAN, WE HAVE, WE HAVE COSTUME PARTIES. EVERYONE DRESSES UP FOR HALLOWEEN, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY, THEY MEAN. I MEAN THEY, UM, UM, IT, I MEAN, PEOPLE DO HAVE, UM, WE DON'T, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HIRE ENTERTAINERS. WE DON'T, UM, HIRE ENTERTAINERS. WE DON'T, UM, PAY PEOPLE TO, TO HAVE SEX THERE OR ANY OF THAT STUFF. IT'S ALL, SO THEREFORE WE'RE NOT A SEXUALLY ORIENTED BUSINESS. WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST PEOPLE THAT LIKE TO, LIKE, WE DRESS SEXY IN OUR COSTUMES AND EXPRESS OUR SEXUAL FREEDOM AND HAVE A RIGHT PLACE TO DO IT. NOT, NOT IN OUR HOMES, IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IT GIVES, THEY'RE RIGHT. THEY DON'T, WOULDN'T WANT THIS RIGHT IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. I WOULDN'T WANT A CHURCH RUNNING MY NEIGHBORHOOD EITHER. UM, WE, I, I DO HAVE, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE I LIVE, WE DO HAVE PEOPLE THAT RUN CHURCHES OUT OF THEIR HOMES. UM, IT TAKES UP ALL THE PARKING IN THE AREA AND I DON'T LIKE THAT. AND WE ALSO HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TEMPORARY PARTIES AND THEIR HOMES AND IT TAKES UP ALL THE PARKING AT LATE NIGHTS. WE DON'T LIKE THAT. WE ALSO HAVE, I ALSO HAVE PEOPLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S HAD, UM, SEX TOY PARTIES. UM, AND IT WOULD TAKE UP ALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKING RIGHT THERE. WE DON'T LIKE THAT. SO WE WE'RE, WE WANT A REC PLACE TO HAVE IT THAT HAS AMPLE PARKING, THAT HAS, THAT'S IN A SUITABLE AREA AND THIS IS A SUITABLE AREA. AND AT ONE TIME IT WAS ZONED RIGHT. AND THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY THOUGHT WHEN HE BOUGHT THE BUILDING, IT WAS STILL ZONED. RIGHT. UM, WE'RE NOT HERE TO TRY TO CAUSE PROBLEMS OR BE OR BE UGLY TO ANYBODY OR CAUSE ISSUES. WE'RE HERE TO ENJOY OUR, OUR SEXUAL FREEDOM, HAVE A PLACE AND ACTUALLY HELP THE COMMUNITY BY ANY MEANS. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. UH, QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT? YEAH, JUST COMMISSIONER WHITE AND THEN COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. NOPE. JUST FOR STAFF ON, UH, THE REASONS FOR, UH, THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL. SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A LIVE ENTERTAINMENT USE. THAT'S WHAT THE FOCUS IS. LIVE ENTERTAINMENT MEANS. UM, UH, DJS, UM, BANDS, UH, THOSE ARE THE, THAT'S WHAT'S CLASSIFIED AS LIVE ENTERTAINMENT. SO, UM, BARS THAT FEATURE THAT AND HAVE COVER CHARGE, UM, WOULD REQUIRE THIS KIND OF USE. SO, UM, IT'S LOCATED IN A BUILDING THAT'S DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL HOMES. AND THAT WAS A CONCERN FOR US, REGARDLESS OF WHO THE OCCUPANT IS, BECAUSE AGAIN, ZONING IS, IS, IS TIED TO THE LAND AND IT'S ZONED IN PERPETUITY UNTIL REZONED AGAIN. AND SO WHETHER IT WAS THIS ONE OR WHETHER IT WAS A BAR, WHETHER IT WAS SOMETHING ELSE, OUR CONCERN WAS THAT THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, UH, PIECE, UH, FOR, UM, FOR THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING, A BUDDING RESIDENTIAL WAS A CONCERN FOR US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WHITE, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. YEAH. AND TO STAFF, JUST TO KIND OF GO INTO THAT A LITTLE DEEPER. SO IF THEY [03:20:01] WERE TO JUST HAVE, UM, LIKE A SOUND SYSTEM THERE, LIKE A NORMAL SOUND SYSTEM THAT WOULD BE IN LIKE A RESTAURANT OR ANOTHER ESTABLISHMENT AND THEY HAD SOMEONE THERE PLAYING THE SONGS, WOULD THAT, DOES THAT STILL CONS? IS THAT STILL A DJ VERSUS LIKE, WHEN I SEE, WHEN I SEE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, I THINK OF LIKE A CONCERT OR LIKE A DJ THAT'S TRAVELING, RIGHT? LIKE A DJ THAT'S PERFORMING A LIVE SHOW VERSUS SOMEONE WHO'S COMING IN AND JUST CHOOSING SONGS. RIGHT. A DJ PLAYING THE MUSIC DOES QUALIFY AS LIVE ENTERTAINMENT. ME PUTTING MY PHONE, UH, USING MY SPOTIFY ACCOUNT AND PUTTING IT ON SPEAKERS IS NOT A DJ. SO HOW DO YOU MAKE THAT DISTINCTION? IT'S THAT THE PERSON COMING IN AND DOING THAT? THAT'S CORRECT. SO IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE CONTRACTING FOR DJ SERVICES. IF A STAFF MEMBER DID THAT, THEN YOU WOULDN'T NEED THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT PORTION. THAT WOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED LIVE ENTERTAINMENT. I MEAN, AS YOU SAID, RESTAURANTS PLAY MUSIC, UM, THAT IS NOT LIVE WHEN IT'S OVER THE SPEAKERS AND THERE'S NO ONE PLAYING THAT MUSIC ACTIVELY LIKE A DJ OR, UM, ORGANIST, JAZZ, YOU KNOW, PIANO, WHATEVER IT IS. IF THERE'S NOT A LIVE INSTRUMENT OR SOMEONE PLAYING THAT LIVE MUSIC ACTIVELY DOING THAT, THEN THEN IT'S, THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED LIVE ENTERTAINMENT. IF NO ONE ELSE IS DOING THAT. AGAIN, PLAYING FROM A PRERECORDED OR A PLAYLIST THAT IS NOT CONSIDERED A DJ. MUZAK IS SAFE MAK CORRECT. OKAY. UM, THAT WAS ONE OF MY MAIN QUESTIONS WAS, YOU KNOW, WAS THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT PORTION NECESSARY, UM, TO THE APPLICANT? I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. SO DO YOU HAVE ANY OUTDOOR AREAS WHERE, UM, PATRONS WHO GO TO YOUR ESTABLISHMENT CAN GO OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING AND UM, I KNOW SMOKE CIGARETTES OR, UM, THE FRONT. THE FRONT AND WE, THEY HAD A FRONT PATIO AND WE, WE, AS THERE WAS A PICTURE THAT Y'ALL SHOWED, UM, LET'S SEE, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE, WHERE THE, THE CLUB EATING RIGHT THERE. SO WE'RE RIGHT THERE BELOW THE SIGN THAT, THAT, THAT WOOD THERE, THAT'S ACTUALLY THE OUTDOOR PATIO FOR SMOKING. WE DON'T ALLOW SMOKING INSIDE. SO THEY COME OUT THAT THERE'S ANOTHER DOOR, THEY COME OUT RIGHT THERE. UM, INSIDE THE, NOT OUT, WE'RE THE, THE, THE, I'M SORRY IF I'M EXPLAINING THIS WRONG, BUT WE'RE THE, THAT'S AN EMERGENCY DOOR FOR, AND THEN THE PATIO'S INSIDE THAT DOOR. OKAY. AND DO YOU PLAY, UM, DOES THE MUSIC STREAM OUTSIDE THERE AS WELL? OR IS THE MUSIC JUST CONTAINED INSIDE? IT'S JUST NAMED INSIDE. AND MOST OF THE TIME OUR DJS ARE VOLUNTEERS AND THEY BASICALLY HAVE THEIR COMPUTER ON A AUTOMATIC PLAYLIST AND THEY JUST HIT PLAY. AND THEN RANDOM PEOPLE COME UP AND THEY WANNA REQUEST A SONG LIKE THEY WOULD DO ON ITUNES OR SOMETHING. BUT THEN THE, THE DJ WOULD GO, OKAY, YEAH, I GOT THAT SONG. LET, LEMME PUT THAT IN THE QUEUE. SO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, IT'S NOT LIKE A CONCERT DJ THAT'S, I MEAN, IT'S SOMEONE WITH A LAPTOP, WITH A PLAYLIST, THEY GET PLAY. RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANKS. UM, SO ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU, UM, SO IT'S A PRIVATE CLUB. UM, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT, UM, UH, THE CHANGE IN THE LAW WITH RESPECT TO OPEN CARRY. WOULD YOU BE ALLOWING YOUR PATRONS TO HAVE FIREARMS? NO. NO. NO. WE DON'T, WE DON'T ALLOW GUNS ANY, ANY TIME. UM, IF A POLICE OFFICER COMES OR SOMEONE THAT, THAT DOES CARRY A GUN AND THEY, THEY INSIST ON BRINGING IT IN, UM, WE, WE CHECK IT AT THE FRONT AND WE PUT IT, WE PUT IT IN A LOCKER AND WE CHECK IT AT THE FRONT. UM, USUALLY, USUALLY MOST PEOPLE WILL LEAVE IT IN THEIR CAR. OKAY. UM, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT YOU ARE A FRANCHISE, UM, AND THAT YOU HAVE ESTABLISHMENTS AT, AT LEAST DALLAS, UM, THE CRIME AT YOUR OTHER LOCATIONS. IS THERE, DO YOU HAVE ANY, CAN YOU GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF AN IDEA OF THE RECORD? UM, I HAVE, I HAVE A LOCATION IN OKLAHOMA CITY AND I HAVE A LOCATION AND I HAVE TWO LOCATIONS IN DALLAS-FORT WORTH. UM, AND THEN SAN ANTONIO. I HAVE A LOT OF FAMILY IN SAN ANTONIO. UM, ALL MILITARY FAMILY. UM, SO THAT'S, AND THEN I KNOW THAT, AND THEN THERE WAS A BIG MARKET FOR THE L G B T, QI, THE L G B T COMMUNITY HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. UM, THEY COME FROM EITHER MORE SOUTH OR THEY COME FROM THE AUSTIN AREA. MY D F W LOCATION HAS BEEN OPEN FOR OVER, FOR OVER 20 YEARS. AND NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY REALLY CRIME. UM, WE'RE ALL UPPER CLASS PEOPLE. I MEAN, AND LITERALLY WHEN I SAY IN, IN, IN THE MY DALLAS FORT WORTH LOCATION, I PROBABLY HAVE, UM, OVER A HUNDRED POLICE OFFICERS THAT COME THERE AND, AND PARTICIPATE. UM, HONESTLY, THE, UH, THE MAIN GUY FOR THE TEXAS HOMELAND SECURITY IS ONE OF OUR MEMBERS. [03:25:01] SO WE DON'T REALLY HAVE, NO ONE GOES THERE TO CAUSE TROUBLE. THEY COME THERE TO EXPRESS THEIR SEXUAL FREEDOM. UM, MOST OF THEM HAVE, UM, INTENSE JOBS, SO IT GIVES THEM AN OUTLET TO RELEASE THEIR, THEIR STRESS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, YOUR PARKING LOT, JUST TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF AN IDEA OF THE LAYOUT, THE PARKING LOT IS, IS THAT LOCATED NEAR? I I, I, I'M ASSUMING, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, THE RESIDENTIAL THAT WE'RE ABUTTING. OH, THERE WAS ANOTHER PICTURE TO IT. YEAH. SO THERE WAS ANOTHER PICTURE OF THE THERE. SO THERE'S THE, AT NIGHTTIME WHERE SINCE WE'RE THE ONLY REALLY PEOPLE OPEN AT NIGHT, WE HAVE THAT WHOLE PARKING LOT. AND THE PARKING LOT HAS, UM, PARKING SPACES FOR I THINK 156 CARS AND IS, AND WE DON'T USE ALL THAT. OKAY. AND IS THAT LOCATED ADJACENT TO, I'M JUST TRYING TO DETERMINE WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ARE THAT, UM, THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ARE. THERE'S THREE LITERALLY RIGHT, RIGHT THERE, RIGHT BEHIND, RIGHT BEHIND THE BUILDING ITSELF. SO THE PARKING LOT, IT LOOKS LIKE, HEY, THAT'S THE WHOLE PARKING LOT RIGHT THERE YES. IS ON THE OTHER SIDE. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. ALL THAT. AND THEN THAT'S IN THEM IN THE MAIN ROAD. AND THEN RIGHT HERE, THE, THE GREEN ROOFS, THAT'S THE LOW, LOW INCOME APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT'S FULL OF DRUG DEALERS AND ALL KINDS OF CRIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR YOU. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, WHAT HAPPENS IF THIS CASE IS DENIED? WHAT CAN GO IN? BECAUSE I KNOW THEY MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT A HOOKAH CLUB OR MAYBE ANOTHER BAR. SO IF THIS CASE IS DENIED, WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP? WHAT, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT POTENTIAL FOR POTENTIAL TENANTS HERE? SO THE CURRENT ZONING IS ZONE C TWO. SO ANY OF, UH, USES THAT ARE PERMITTED BY RIDE TYPICALLY ARE RETAIL DISTRICT RESTAURANTS THAT SELL ALCOHOL. THOSE WOULD BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN, IN THIS STRIP CENTER. UH, THE PREVIOUS USE A BAR WAS, UH, CONSIDERED A NON-CONFORMING USE. IT QUALIFIED AS A NON-CONFORMING USE BECAUSE THE, THE ZONING AND, AND THE CODE WAS, UH, CHANGED, UH, AFTER THE BARS HAD ALREADY BEEN LOCATED THERE. WE WOULD NEED A MORE, UM, CONCLUSIVE INFORMATION FROM, UH, T A B C IN ORDER TO DETERMINE, UM, IF A BAR COULD GO BACK INTO IT, UM, IF IT QUALIFIED AS NON-CONFORMING. OKAY. THANK YOU. NO MORE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. COMMISSIONERS TO MY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, REMOTE COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS. UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT, AND I APOLOGIZE, WHEN YOU WERE, WERE TALKING ABOUT YOUR HOURS OF OPERATION. SOMEBODY'S MOWING MY YARD RIGHT NOW AND I COULDN'T HEAR YOU. CAN YOU GIMME YOUR HOURS OF OPERATION AGAIN, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM. UM, UH, THURSDAYS NINE TO TWO, FRIDAYS NINE TO THREE, AND SATURDAYS NINE TO FOUR, YOU KNOW, AND IF IT, IF IT IS APPROVED AND IT BECOMES A NUISANCE TO ALL THIS, IT'S GONNA GET SHUT DOWN. SO, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IF IT'S APPROVED, IT'S ON ME TO MAKE SURE THAT I KEEP MY WORD WITH THE CITY AND WITH THE NEIGHBORS. 'CAUSE IF NOT, I MEAN, IT'S, EVENTUALLY ADVICE IS JUST GONNA COME SHUT IT DOWN IF IT BECOMES A NUISANCE LIKE THEY'RE SEEING THE OTHER BARS HAVE BEEN BEFORE. SO YOU'RE NOT OPEN THE REST OF THE DAYS OF THE WEEK JUST FRIDAY, THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY. YES, MA'AM. AND SO THE BUILDING IS JUST KIND OF UNOCCUPIED THE REST OF THE TIME? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. UM, WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO MODIFYING HOURS? UM, SOMEWHAT, BUT LIKE I SAID, THOSE ARE, UM, ALL THE MEMBERS, THIS IS THE BEST TIME FOR THE MEMBERS BECAUSE THEY HAVE PROFESSIONAL JOBS AND, AND OH, OKAY. AND I FORGOT, I'M SORRY, I FORGOT. YOU SAID YOU'RE A PRIVATE FLIP? THAT'S YEAH, SOFT AND SOFTBALLS AND BASEBALL GAMES OR THEIR KIDS AND, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE. UH, DR. JONES, IT IS A DISTRICT TWO CASE, SO TO YOU FOR MOTION AND DISCUSSION. UM, WE HAVE JUST HEARD SO MANY COMPLAINTS AND, AND I KNOW MR. GRANT VAN, THIS IS NOT YOUR FAULT, THAT THEY HAD SO MANY OTHER PROBLEMS WITH THE OTHER CLUB, UM, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I, AND, AND THE MAJORITY OF THE COMPLAINTS WERE NOT EVEN ABOUT, UH, YOUR MEMBERSHIP L G B T Q COMMUNITY. IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. IT WAS MORE THE, THE VOLUME WHICH, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE HAD TO EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, NOT, NOT ONLY WHAT DID YOU SAY, RIGHT? BUT THEY'RE NOT WITH ME. SO, SO PUTTING THAT ON ME IS NOT RIGHT. NO, AND [03:30:01] I, AND I'M NOT PUTTING THAT ON YOU. I'M JUST SAYING FROM THERE I UNDERSTAND THEIR FRUSTRATION WITH THE PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE. NOW, MR. VANDER, GRIFF, I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. YOU HAD YOUR OPPORTUNITY, SORRY DR. JONES. AND WITH THE STAFF FEELING THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH, UH, HOUSING SO CLOSE BEHIND, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THEM THAT THIS IS GONNA ADVERSELY AFFECT THE, THEIR HOME LIFE. I CANNOT IMAGINE HAVING TO WAIT UNTIL AT TWO IN THE MORNING THAT THE MUSIC IS TOO LOUD AND THEN COMPLAINING BACK AND FORTH. THAT IS A VERY INVOLVED PROCESS. SO I HAVE TO AGREE AND I WILL BE MOVING TO AGREE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL. ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR DENIAL BY DR. JONES. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? OKAY. UH, THERE'S A MOTION FOR DENIAL BY DR. JONES WITH A SECOND. BY BY COMMISSIONER HU. UM, ALRIGHT, DISCUSSION TO MY LEFT. GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER. WHITE COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. UM, I'LL BE SUPPORTING, UH, THE MOTION FOR DENIAL, UM, I GUESS WAS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND NOW MOVED FORWARD BY COMMISSIONER JONES. JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT, THAT MY AGREEANCE TO, TO THIS MOTION FOR DENIAL HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PEOPLE'S SEXUAL ORIENTATIONS, WHETHER THEY HAVE GOOD JOBS OR BAD JOBS, UM, OR WHATEVER THEIR LIFESTYLE, UH, MAY BE. THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S NOT FOR ME TO JUDGE WHETHER I, WHETHER I AGREE WITH IT OR NOT. SO THIS HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY OF THAT. THIS IS PURELY A LAND USE, UH, DECISION BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TASKED WITH, UH, LOOKING AT HERE. UM, AND SO WITH THAT SAID, I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION FOR DENIAL. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WHITE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. I APPRECIATE, UH, COMMISSIONER WHITE'S COMMENTS. UM, HOWEVER, UM, I FIND THIS TO BE A DIFFICULT CASE BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE A LOT OF THE OPPOSITION THAT'S COMING IS BECAUSE IT IS TARGETING THE MORALS OF A PARTICULAR GROUP OF PEOPLE. AND I THINK MORALS ARE AN INDIVIDUALLY BASED, UH, PRINCIPLES THAT WE HOLD. AND TO JUDGE ONE PERSON'S MORALS AS IMPROPER OR LESSER THAN THE MORALS OF THE REST OF US IS NOT PROPER . IT'S NOT OUR PURVIEW TO JUDGE THIS BASED ON WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE IS ACTING IN A WAY THAT WE THINK IS NECESSARILY PROPER. SO THAT TO ME IS, IS A BIG, UM, I TAKE A LOT OF, UM, I THAT CONCERNS ME WITH THIS CASE, THAT, THAT THIS IS WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS KIND OF UPROAR OF, UM, OF OPPOSITION. UM, HOWEVER, UM, I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE POTENTIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS, BUT I DO THINK THAT THOSE HAVE BEEN MITIGATED OR CAN BE MITIGATED. THIS IS A CD, IT'S CONDITIONAL USE. THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT CONDITIONS ON THIS SUCH AS HOURS OF OPERATION, SUCH AS NO OUTDOOR SPEAKERS. THERE IS AN OP, THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. SO I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS TO, TO BE A POTENTIAL COMPROMISE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I THINK ALSO THAT GIVEN THE, THAT, GIVEN THE FACT THAT YOU COULD HAVE A BAR GO BACK IN THERE AND HAVE THE PROBLEMS THAT YOU WERE HAVING BEFORE AND HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT PRIVATELY CONTROLLED, THIS IS PRIVATELY CONTROLLED. IT IS A PRIVATE CLUB, REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS INSIDE THAT CLUB. IT IS PRIVATE AND IT IS CONTROLLED. NOT THE SAME AS A BAR THAT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC WHERE YOU MAY HAVE THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES THAT YOU'VE HAD PREVIOUSLY. SO THAT TO ME, UM, I THINK THAT THERE'S MORE ROOM FOR THERE TO BE A COMPROMISE HERE. SO THAT'S WHY I'M NOT SURE THAT I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. UM, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. COMMENTS. DISCUSSION. ALRIGHT, REMOTE COMMISSIONERS DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UH, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFICULT CASE FOR ME IN THAT I, I'M STRICTLY LOOKING AT IT AS A BAR AND LIVE VENUE KIND OF ENTERTAINMENT USE. AND I TYPICALLY DON'T, UH, SUPPORT THOSE CASES WHERE THEY BACKED TO RESIDENTIAL. UM, AND I WAS TRYING TO COMPROMISE HERE, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSES OF THE PRIVATE CLUB REQUIRE THAT IT HAVE THESE VERY LATE HOURS AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTS FROM, UM, NOISE COMING FROM, YOU KNOW, THEIR, UM, ACTIVITIES. SO I'M ON THE FENCE ON THIS ONE, BUT I'M, I'M WRESTLING WITH IT. THANK YOU DR. ROMERO. [03:35:02] UM, HONESTLY, I JUST AM LOOKING AT THIS AS A SIMPLE ZONING CASE. UM, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT MAYBE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SAID, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS A ZONING CASE. LIVE ENTERTAINMENT NEXT TO SINGLE FAMILY DOESN'T WORK. I HAPPEN TO KNOW THIS NEIGHBORHOOD PRETTY WELL 'CAUSE MY HUSBAND GREW UP IN IT AND THERE'S, IT'S A QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD AND I WOULDN'T PUT LIVE ENTERTAINMENT. I DON'T CARE WHO IT IS. LIVE ENTERTAINMENT NEXT TO SINGLE FAMILY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE IN ANY NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. UM, SO STRICTLY, UM, LOOKING AT LAND USE AND THE PROXIMITY OF THE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD, THE, THE HOURS AND, UM, AGAIN, THE LIVE VENUE, UM, IS, WOULD BE THE REASON THAT I WOULD BE SUPPORTING THE DENIAL. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCGEE. UM, I'M GONNA TAKE MY TURN ON DISCUSSION AND THEN WE'LL GO TO YOU COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. YOU KNOW, UM, I WILL TELL YOU THAT YOU WILL GET VERY, YOU WILL NOT GET VERY FAR WITH ME WHEN WE TALK ABOUT INDIVIDUALS AS CLASSES OF PEOPLE, WHETHER BASED ON THEIR ACTUAL CLASS, THEIR EMPLOYMENT, OR THEIR SEXUAL ORIENTATION. THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, IN THIS CASE I DO VIEW IT PURELY AS A LAND USE ISSUE AS COMMISSIONER MCGEE AND DR. ROMEO POINTED OUT. SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION FOR DENIAL. UM, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, UM, GOING BACK TO KIND OF MY QUESTIONS WITH STAFF EARLIER, UM, WITH THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT SITUATION, IS THERE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF COMMISSIONER, THE COMMISSIONER MIGHT BE, UM, AMENABLE TO, AGAIN, OR THE APPLICANT AS WELL TO A CONTINUANCE IN ORDER TO WORK THOSE OUT IN, IF THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT AND THE HOURS OF OPERATION WERE THINGS THAT WERE NOT NECESSARY MOVING FORWARD, IF THOSE ARE THINGS THAT COULD BE POTENTIALLY DISCUSSED FURTHER WITH THE APPLICANT. Y YES, I'M CERTAINLY AMENABLE, BUT THAT DIDN'T SEEM TO BE THE MAJORITY THAT, THAT, THAT THAT DIDN'T SEEM TO BE THE COMPLAINTS THAT THE NEIGHBORS, THE CONCERNS THAT THE NEIGHBORS HAD, THAT THE, THAT THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAD. IT WAS MORE THE LOUD MUSIC, THIS AND THAT. IT WAS NOT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT WASN'T THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THE HOURS WOULD BE LIMITED. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WILL HELP. RIGHT. BUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING, IF REMOVING THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT PORTION FROM THAT, IF THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DISCUSSED AND WOULD POTENTIALLY ALLEVIATE THOSE CONCERNS. ALRIGHT, WELL, RIGHT NOW THE MOTION IS FOR DENIAL WITH THE SECOND. UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE R. COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? NO. AND CHAIR SAMANTHA. AYE. MOTION PASSES. THUS DENIAL. MR. VANDER. GRIFF, GOOD LUCK TO YOU. THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. YOU'RE GOING OKAY. UH, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT UH, COMMISSIONER WHITE IS LEAVING AT FOUR 50. UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, YOU AS WELL. YES. AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS LEAVING AT FOUR 50 AS WELL. I AM IN NEED OF A FIVE MINUTE BREAK. WE STILL HAVE QUORUM. UH, IF WE COULD, LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK AND BE BACK AT 4 55. I APOLOGIZE FOLKS, BUT THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL RECONVENE AT 4 55. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN AND COMMISSIONERS. I THINK I JUST LOST A COMMISSIONER, SO I'M GONNA, WE'RE GONNA PROBABLY START IN JUST A FEW MINUTES. TWO OR THREE, GIVE TIME FOR OUR REMOTE COMMISSIONERS TO COME BACK. SO START HEADING IN, IN THE DIRECTION OF YOUR SEATS PLEASE. I'M GONNA ASK FOR THE ABILITY TO FLASH THE LIGHTS AS IF WE WERE A CONCERT. JUST TO LET PEOPLE KNOW, I'M TRYING TO GET Y'ALL'S ATTENTION. WE NEED 'EM FOR QUORUM, SO, YES. [03:40:11] ALL RIGHT. UH, REMOTE COMMISSIONERS. WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR, UH, COMMISSIONER HU TO COME BACK AND THEN WE WILL GET UNDERWAY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. WE ARE CONTINUING WITH OUR FINAL TWO ZONING CASES AND FINAL THREE ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA. UM, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE TAKE YOUR SEATS. THE TIME IS FOUR FIFTY SEVEN AND I CALL THIS ZONING COMMISSION BACK INTO ORDER INTO SESSION [7. ZONING CASE Z202010700174 (Council District 3): A request for a change in zoning from “FR” Farm and Ranch District to "R4" Residential SingleFamily District on 182.281 acres out of CB 4007, located at 13511 Old Corpus Christi Road. Staff recommends Approval, pending Plan Amendment. (Associated Plan Amendment PA 202111600049) (Logan Sparrow, Policy Administrator (210) 2078691, Logan.Sparrow@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department).] STAFF, UH, IF WE COULD WITH INDIVIDUAL ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, PLEASE. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS REQUEST TO REZONE FROM FR TO R FOUR. LOCATED AT 1 3 5 1 1 OLD CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD. THERE WERE 17 NOTICES MAILED. ONE WAS RECEIVED IN FAVOR, TWO WERE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION. AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DEVELOPMENT TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY GENERALLY CONSIST OF MULTIFAMILY USES IN RETAIL, SUPPORTS THE PLANNED SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITY TO THE EAST AND SOUTH. HOWEVER, CARE SHOULD BE TAKEN TO MITIGATE THE POTENTIAL EFFECTS TO THIS SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE ADJACENT I ONE AND I TWO USES AND ZONING SETBACKS AND REQUIRED LANDSCAPE BUFFERS MAY HELP TO MITIGATE THESE EFFECTS. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, MR. CHAIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. IS THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PRESENT? MS. MCDONALD, PLEASE PROVIDE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS ZONING PROJECT. THANK YOU. CAN YOU HEAR ME? THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. UH, COMMISSIONERS CAROLINE MCDONALD WITH BROWN ORTIZ ONE 12 EAST PECAN SUITE, SUITE 1360 HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. AS STAFF INDICATED, UH, THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION RIGHT NOW IS APPROXIMATELY 183 ACRES, UH, NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF 37 AND SOUTHTON, OR IS, UH, MORE COMMONLY KNOWN, SOUTHTON DOES TURN INTO STRIKE ROAD. UH, MOST OF THIS AREA WAS ANNEXED IN 2014 AND GIVEN A, UM, THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY WAS GIVEN A FARM AND RANCH DISTRICT ZONING DESIGNATION. UM, THIS SLIDE HERE, SORRY, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE THIRD ONE? UM, THERE ISN'T AN ASSOCIATED PLAN AMENDMENT WITH THIS CASE FOR THE, UH, R FOUR REQUEST. UH, THE HERITAGE SOUTH SECTOR PLAN DOES DESIGNATE THIS PROPERTY AS RURAL ESTATE AND AGRIBUSINESS. UH, REMSEY TIER PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF OUR REQUEST TO SUBURBAN TIER, UM, LAST WEDNESDAY. NEXT SLIDE YOU CAN SEE HERE, UH, IS A VERY LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY. AGAIN, ZONED FARM AND RANCH DISTRICT. WE ARE REQUESTING R FOUR TO ALLOW FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME SUBDIVISION. UM, TYPICALLY THE R FOUR DISTRICT WITH THIS AMOUNT OF ACREAGE WITH 11 UNITS PER ACRE WOULD PERMIT 2100 HOMES. HOWEVER, THE BUILDER IS PROPOSING 660 HOMES, WHICH COMES OUT TO ABOUT, UH, THREE UNITS PER ACRE. UM, AS STAFF INDICATED, THERE IS MULTI-FAMILY TO OUR WEST. THERE'S ALSO A, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOME SUBDIVISION TO OUR SOUTH CALLED SOUTHTON COVE. AND THEN THERE IS, UH, UH, SOME INDUSTRIAL TO OUR EAST. THAT PROPERTY IS OWNED BY C P S. WE DID DO SOME PRELIMINARY OUTREACH BECAUSE OF THE INTENSITY OF THAT ZONING DISTRICT. UM, THERE ARE NOT ANY PLANS IN PLACE AT THIS MOMENT. UM, BUT IF THEY DO DEVELOP, THEY WILL HAVE TO, UH, DEVELOP WITH 40 FOOT BUFFER, 50 FOOT SETBACK, AND EIGHT FOOT FENCE IN ADDITION TO THE BUFFER SETBACKS AND FENCING THAT WE WILL PUT IN PLACE ON THE PROPERTY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. YOU CAN SEE HERE, UM, THIS IS OUR PRELIMINARY DRAFT SITE PLAN. UM, THERE IS A LOT OF FLOODPLAIN ON THE PROPERTY, UM, AS WELL AS TOPOGRAPHY ISSUES. WE ARE CONDUCTING OUR, UH, DRAINAGE STUDY AS WE SPEAK, BUT, UM, YOU CAN SEE, UM, SOUTH IS ACTUALLY, UH, TO THE LEFT OF [03:45:01] THE SLIDE, UH, THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT IT. BUT OUR ACCESS IS TWO ACCESS POINTS ON, UH, SOUTHTON ROAD. UM, WE DO HAVE OUR ENGINEER HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. UM, BUT WITH THAT I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR, UH, APPROVAL OF THE ZONING CASE TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MS. MCDONALD STAFF, UH, I KNOW WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE PRESENT. MICHAEL FELLER. THERE'S ALSO MR. SML UHHUH. HE REQUESTS THAT I TAKE HIS TIME. OKAY, MR. HERE? YES, HE IS. MR. SML, YOU'RE GIVING MR. FELLER YOUR TIME? YES, BUT I ALSO HAVE VIDEO. WHICH ONE IS IT? UH, CLAUDE OR DUSTED? CLAUDE. OKAY. I ALSO SUBMITTED VIDEO AND PICTURES OF THE FLOODS. OKAY. DO, DO WANT THIS GENTLEMAN TO PLAY HIS VIDEOS? YES. YEAH. SO THAT HE CAN USE SOME OF HIS TIME TO PLAY THOSE VIDEOS? YOU CAN USE YOUR TIME, HIS YOUR TIME TO PLAY HIS VIDEOS AND SHOW HIS HIS PICTURES, SIR? YES. YES. ALRIGHT, MR. FELLER, IF YOU WOULD, OH, AND YOU, YOU WANNA GIVE TIME TOO? IF I GIVE HIM BY TIME, HE GETS NINE MINUTES, RIGHT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY, THAT'S FINE. AND THAT WOULD BE INCLUSIVE OF THE VIDEOS? YES. OKAY. OKAY. CHRISTIAN, YOUR NAME IS DUST. DUST, OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. FELLER. YOU HAVE NINE MINUTES. UM, INTRODUCE YOURSELF. GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS. THANK YOU. MY NAME'S MICHAEL FELLER. I'M AT 1 3 0 6 1 OLD CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD, WHICH IS, UH, WOULD BE BEHIND THE, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT. IT'S, UH, THE PROPERTY THEY NAME IS, UH, 15 3 11. IS THAT I THINK 13 5 11. 13. FIVE 11. THERE YOU GO. UH, WHICH OF COURSE THAT WOULD NOT HAVE AN EGRESS POINT THERE. BOTH EGRESS WOULD BE ON, UH, SOUTHTON ROAD. OUR MAIN CONCERN IS THE, UH, UH, FLOODING ISSUE THAT MAY COME UP BECAUSE OF THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT. UH, THAT'S THE, THE BIGGEST THING. AND THEN OF COURSE, UH, UH, WHICH WOULD IMPACT MY PROPERTY, WHICH FRONTS ON OLD CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD, THE SMLE PROPERTY, WHICH FRONTS ON OLD CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD, BECAUSE PART OF THEIR PROPERTY IS IN THAT FLOODPLAIN, UH, FLOODPLAIN ZONE. UH, BUT NOT ONLY THAT, UH, DO YOU HAVE THE VIDEO? UH, THIS WAS JUST, UH, OF THE LAST, UH, BIG HEAVY RAIN. WE HAD THE, UH, UH, WE'VE BEEN ANNEXED SINCE 2017, AND THE CITY HAS FAILED TO COME DOWN AND CLEAN ANY OF OUR DITCHES, CLEAN ANY OF OUR BRIDGES. AND C P S OWNS PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET FROM US. THEY DID A BIG SCALE, UH, CLEAN OUT AROUND SUPPOSEDLY TO SELL THE PROPERTY. SO A LOT OF THE MULCH RAN DOWN INTO THE BRIDGE, CLOGGED THE BRIDGE. AND, UH, THIS, THIS IS, THAT, THAT BRIDGE THERE HAS FIVE FOOT CULVERTS, BUT YOU CAN'T SEE THAT BECAUSE IT'S CLOGGED UP. UH, THIS IS PART OF THE, THE WATER RUNNING THERE AT THE BRIDGE. UH, DID YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF THE ROAD? YES. WELL, IT SHOULD BE, IT SHOULD BE ON THE VIDEO OF THE, OF THE WATER, THE WATER COMING OVER THE ROAD. AND IF, IF THEY WERE TO BLOCK ANY OF THAT WATER IN THE, IN THE DEVELOPMENT, THEN THE ROAD WOULD BE, UH, EVEN THAT MUCH MORE HAMPERED. MR. FELLER, IF YOU GIVE THE PICTURE, OH, PICTURE RIGHT HERE, SIR. YEAH, THERE YOU GO. OKAY, PERFECT. THERE YOU GO. SEE THE WATER'S ALREADY COMING OVER THE ROAD BECAUSE THE, THE DITCHES ARE NOT CLEANED. THE BRIDGE IS NOT CLEAN. AND, UH, UH, SO I MEAN THAT IF, IF THEY DON'T DO DUE DILIGENCE TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR PART OF THE DRAINAGE, THIS IS GONNA GET WORSE ON OLD CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD AND THE MOLES WILL BE FLOODED OUT. AND THEN, UH, I'LL HAVE VERY HIGH WATER IN MY YARD AS WELL. SO THAT'S THE BIGGEST CONCERN, IS THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T BLOCK THE DRAINAGE. UH, AND THEN OF COURSE, UH, EVERYTHING ELSE IS GONNA HAPPEN WITH 600 HOMES. UH, AT ONE POINT, UH, I WAS TOLD BY THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, THEY ONLY ALLOWED THREE HOUSES PER ACRE. THEY'RE SAYING 11 HOUSES PER ACRE. THAT'S AWFUL TIGHT. BUT ANYWAY, IF THEY DO THAT, I MEAN, THEN THERE'S GONNA BE ADDED TRAFFIC, UH, CONGESTION ON, ON SOUTHTON ROAD. THE EXIT THERE AT 37, AND IT'S ALREADY A SMALL TWO LANE STOP PAVEMENT. IT'S FOUR, IT IS FOUR-WAY STOP. [03:50:01] BUT IT'S, UH, THE PAYMENT, THERE'S NOT REAL GOOD. UH, SO I MEAN, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE DONE BY THE CITY JUST TO KEEP UP WITH THIS. AND ALSO SOUTHTON COVES GOING IN. SO THERE'S GONNA BE A EVEN MORE TRAFFIC THERE, UH, ON THAT CORNER. UH, SO, BUT OUR BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE DRAINAGE THAT THEY, THEY MAKE SURE THEY DO THE, THE DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DRAINAGE IS, IS TAKEN CARE OF. UH, LIKE I SAID, YOU CAN SEE THE WATER COMING OVER THE ROAD. THE LAST BIG ROAD WE HAD, UH, MR. SMLE CALLED THE CITY TO COME OUT AND GET 'EM TO CLEAN UP THE ROAD. THEY DIDN'T GO OUT THERE AND CLEAN UP THE ROAD. WE HAD TO GO DOWN THERE AND TAKE BIG CHUNKS OF TRASH OFF THE ROAD SO PEOPLE COULD DRIVE. SO WE COULD DRIVE THROUGH. UH, AND UH, SO I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S OUR BIG CONCERN IS, IS, IS THAT THE CITY WOULD KIND OF PICK UP ON THEIR PART WHEN THEY ANNEXED US TO TAKE CARE OF US, TO TAKE CARE OF US. AND WE'RE NOT SEEING THAT BEING TAKEN CARE OF. SO I KNOW THIS IS A ZONING DEAL AND THAT'S PROBABLY MORE POLICY, MORE MAINTENANCE, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S OUR BIG DEAL IS, IS A DRAINAGE, UH, ALONG WITH THE, THE, UH, TRAFFIC CONCERN THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY'S, THE CITY'S GONNA HAVE TO DO TO TAKE CARE OF THAT CORNER. SO SEE, MIKE, EXCUSE ME, SIR, THERE SHOULD BE MORE PICTURES BECAUSE WE HAD VIDEO OF THE, BECAUSE THE BRO CREEK GOES FROM THE, FROM THE OTHER FIELD ACROSS FROM THE ROAD, GOES UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE, GOES THROUGH MY PROPERTY, GOES TO MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR PROPERTY, AND GOES UNDERNEATH THE RAILROAD TRACK WITH THE UNSTABLE BRIDGE THEY HAVE FOR THE COAL TRAINS GOING ACROSS. AND THEN IT GOES ONTO THE PROPERTY. THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE THE HOUSES ON. AND I SHOULD HAVE VIDEO. I SENT IT, IT TOOK ME FOUR HOURS. IF SOMEONE'S TALKING, WE CAN'T, OKAY, I CAN'T HEAR. HE WAS, HE WAS STANDING IN THE BACK. HE'S STILL, HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, THE VIDEOS OF THE WATER DRAINAGE GOING OFF OF THE ROAD, COMING ONTO HIS PROPERTY, GOING ON THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY, AND THEN GOING ON THROUGH UNDERNEATH THE RAILROAD TRESTLE THAT'S BACK THERE. THAT'S, UH, VERY, UM, WEAK. AND ALL THE COLD TRAINS AND THE SAND TRAINS AND EVERYTHING HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH THERE. AND, UH, IT'S LORD WILLING, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, BUT IT'S, UH, IT'S A TRAIN WRECK READY TO HAPPEN, UH, BECAUSE OF THAT TRESTLE. BUT ANY RATE, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. AND, UH, WE'RE NOT OPPOSED, WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO IMPROVEMENTS IN BUILDING AND EVERYTHING BECAUSE IT, UH, IT WILL HELP OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT. IT'LL HELP EAST CENTRAL SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, WITH TAX DOLLARS AND SUCH AS THAT. UH, THEY'RE LOOKING TO BUILD MORE SCHOOLS. I'M A, I'M A A PAST BOARD MEMBER FOR EAST CENTRAL AND, UH, SO WE APPRECIATE THE, THE, THEM WANTING TO COME IN AND DEVELOP AND ADD TAX DOLLARS TO OUR, TO OUR TAX BASE. UH, BUT WE'RE CONCERNED AS HOMEOWNERS RIGHT NOW WITH THE FLOODING PROBLEMS THAT MAY, MAY ARISE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, STAFF, ANY FURTHER. ANNETTE FULLER FELLER AND IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, AND IF YOU WANT, YOU CAN HAND THE PICTURES TO THEM AND THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THE PROJECTOR TO PUT 'EM UP. THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. AGAIN, MY NAME IS ANNETTE FOWLER. I AM A RESIDENT OF 40 PLUS YEARS AT 13 0 61 OLD CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD. UH, BEEN TO EVERY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, JUNIOR HIGH AND HIGH SCHOOL, GRADUATED FROM EAST CENTRAL. I LOVE MY DISTRICT. UM, AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE THAT EARTH IS MOVING WHEN EARTH IS MOVING. THERE IS DEVELOPMENT, DEVELOPMENT IS GOOD FOR OUR ECONOMY. UM, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT. SO SEEING THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION OR THE DEVELOPER WANTING TO BUILD IN OUR AREA, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT, BUT I AM AN ADVOCATE OF THE FACT THAT THIS IS OUR ROAD. AND WE WERE JUST RECENTLY, UM, ANNEXED INTO THE CITY PRIOR TO BEING ANNEXED INTO THE CITY. THE BEXAR COUNTY TOOK VERY GOOD CARE OF OUR DITCHES. AT LEAST TWICE A YEAR THEY WOULD MOW AND KEEP EVERYTHING LOOK CLEAN. IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, WE HAVE HAD NO MOWING. WE HAVE TREES THAT ARE GROWING RIGHT AT THE EDGE OF THE ASPHALT. AND BECAUSE OF THE DEBRIS THAT HAS BUILT UP AND THE TREES, UH, THE WATER DOESN'T FLOW. EXCUSE ME. SO YOU SEE HERE THE FLOODING THAT WE HAVE, AND THIS IS JUST FROM A RECENT RAIN, AND THIS GOES INTO OUR NEIGHBOR'S FIELD, INTO THEIR HOMES. AND THE NEXT PICTURE THAT YOU MAY SEE, WE HAVE SOME ECONOMICALLY CHALLENGED PEOPLE THAT LIVE CLOSE BY. AND THIS IS THE WATER THAT COMES TO THEIR HOME WITHOUT THESE PEOPLE DOING ANYTHING [03:55:01] OUT THERE BEHIND OUR HOMES IS THE RAILROAD TRACK. AND WE HEAR THE RAILROAD TRACK AND THE TRAINS GO BY EVERY NIGHT AT TWO O'CLOCK. WE'VE GROWN ACCUSTOMED TO THAT. BUT THIS IS WHAT SCARES ME, IS WHEN THE FLOW OF THE WATER CANNOT GO TO THE NATURAL STATE OF WHERE IT ALREADY IS GOING, WHERE WILL IT GO? SO WHERE IT WILL GO IS IN MY HOME AND IN THEIR HOME AND IN THESE PEOPLE'S HOME. AND WHEN, WHAT ARE WE FORCED TO DO? WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO CHANGE THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE LAND. WE NEED PEOPLE LIKE THIS TO HELP US IF THEY'RE GONNA COME IN AND MOVE IN NEW HOMES AND NEW FAMILIES, WHICH I'M EXCITED TO SEE NEW FAMILIES COME TO MY COMMUNITY AND TO BUILD IN MY SCHOOL DISTRICT. I'M EXCITED FOR THAT. BUT I'M NOT EXCITED TO SEE WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IF THE DEVELOPER DOESN'T DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WATER AND OR THE TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALL THOSE THINGS THAT HAVE TO COME INTO PLAY TO HELP EACH OTHER AS A COMMUNITY TO SURVIVE. AND WE WANNA BE ABLE TO SURVIVE. BUT IF THAT HOME IS ANY MORE FLOODED THAN IT IS, THEY'LL HAVE TO LEAVE. AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY WOULD GO ECONOMICALLY. YOU SEE WHAT THEY CAN AFFORD. SO WITH THAT, I JUST, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND HOPE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT, THAT THE, THE DEVELOPER THAT COMES IN WILL BE CONSCIENTIOUS OF MAKING SURE THAT THE WATER THAT GOES UNDER THE RAILROAD TRACKS THROUGH THAT AUTOMATIC CREEK. 'CAUSE THEY SAID SOMETHING ABOUT BIDDING A, A WALL. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY TALK ABOUT. IF YOU PULL A WALL LIKE THIS AND THE WATER'S THERE, IT'S GONNA GO SOMEWHERE. SO IT'S GONNA GO ON MY HOUSE OR THEIR HOUSE. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. FELLER. ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES, SIR. WE HAVE SOME VOICEMAILS THAT WE NEED TO PLAY. VERY GOOD, THANK YOU. MOSEL. 1 2 9 5 9 OH CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD, CASE NUMBER Z 2 MILLION 21 1 7 4 IN REFERENCE TO THE SUBDIVISION AT LOCATED AT 1 3 5 1 1 OH CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD. I'M CALLING REGARDING TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE FLOODING THAT OCCURS HERE AND ON THE OTHER SIDE. UH, ALSO THE FLOODING THAT OCCURS IN THE CREEK CALLED BRO CREEK, WHICH WE'VE BEEN ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IN 2016. SAN ANTONIO HAS NOT CLEANED UP THE CREEK HAVE NOT TAKEN CARE OF THE, THE REEDS ON THE ROAD. UM, ALSO THE FLOOD ISSUE IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TOUR SERVICE, INTERNET SERVICE, ANY KIND OF SERVICES ALL PROVIDED BY THE CITY. UH, ALSO I HAVE SENT LOGAN SPARROW AN EMAIL WITH VIDEO OF THE FLOOD ON BOTH SIDES OF THE TRACKS ON MY PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTY YOU'RE BUILDING ON. AND I SENT PICTURES TOO. I HAVE NOT GET, I HAVE NOT RECEIVED A OR RESPONSE BACK. YOU CAN PLAY THAT DURING THE MEETING FOR ME. ALSO, I JUST, MOST MY OPINION THAT I'M MY FAMILY IS AGAINST THAT SUBDIVISION BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WILL NOT TAKE CARE OF THAT NEW SUBDIVISION AS THEY ARE NOT TAKING CARE OF US ON THIS SIDE OF THE TRACK. THANK YOU. NANCY SVA, 1 3 2 9 0 OLD CORP CHRISTI ROAD, CASE NUMBER Z 20 21 1 0 7 0 0 1 7 4. WE'RE DEFINITELY CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, THE SOUND BARRIER AS WE'RE CLOSE TO THE RAILROAD AND THE CRIME THAT THIS WILL BRING. PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 414-4247. NANCY SOVA, 1 3 2 9 0 OLD CORPUS CHRISTI. UH, THIS IS ROGER. WE AT 13 2 11 OLD CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD. I DON'T HAVE THE CASE NUMBER OF WHAT I'M REFERRING TO THE PROPERTY BEHIND ME THAT THIS IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. UH, IF YOU PUT THAT MANY HOUSES BACK THERE AND YOU DON'T DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE DRAINAGE, YOU'RE GOING TO FLOOD ALL OF US OUT OVER HERE. AND IT'S IN A FLOODPLAIN ON PART OF THAT PROPERTY. AND PART OF MY PROPERTY IS IN A FLOODPLAIN. UH, YOU'LL HAVE DONE NOTHING TO TAKE CARE OF THE PROBLEM, ALLEVIATING THE THING AT BRO CREEK AND, UH, YOU'RE FIXING TO HAVE A TRAIN WRECK IF YOU DON'T TAKE AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. NOW, UH, THAT'S ABOUT ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY ABOUT IT. [04:00:01] AND I'M SORRY I DON'T HAVE A CASE NUMBER 'CAUSE I DID NOT RECEIVE A SECOND LETTER THAT MY NEIGHBOR DID, AND I JUST RECEIVED THIS NUMBER FROM HIM. SO I'M TELLING YOU MY CONCERNS ABOUT IT. I'VE LIVED ON THIS PROPERTY NOW FOR 75 YEARS AND I'VE SEEN IT FLOOD EVEN PART OF MY PROPERTY. IF YOU PUT A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT BACK THERE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PROBLEMS. BIG TIME. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE, SIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, MS. MCDONALD REBUTTAL, UH, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO OUR ENGINEER BECKY CARROLL WITH PAPE DAWSON TO ADDRESS, UM, SOME OF THE ENGINEERING ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS AROUND US. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD DECISION. THANK YOU, MS. CARROLL. GOOD, UH, EVENING, ALMOST, I GUESS IT IS, UH, BECKY CARROLL WITH P DAWSON ENGINEERS 2000 NORTHWEST LOOP FOUR 10. UM, IT, IT SEEMS TO ME TODAY I'VE HEAR I'M HEARING A LOT OF, UM, CONCERN FROM RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ON OLD CORPUS CHRISTI. UM, BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THE VIDEOS IN THE PHOTOS, THEY, THEY HAVE VALID CONCERNS. UM, THEY ARE THOUGH UPSTREAM OF THIS PROPERTY, WHICH IS UNUSUAL. NORMALLY I'M HEARING COMPLAINTS FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE DOWNSTREAM OF A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. UM, SO GIVEN THAT THAT THEIR PROPERTIES ARE UPSTREAM, UM, WE ARE REQUIRED AS CIVIL ENGINEER TO DESIGN FOR AN ULTIMATE DEVELOPMENT DRAINAGE CONDITION THAT WILL ALLOW, UH, DESIGN OF INFRASTRUCTURE FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, AN ULTIMATE DEVELOPMENT SCENARIO. SO THEIR PROPERTY IS, IS CURRENTLY, UH, NOT DEVELOPED. WE WOULD HAVE TO DESIGN INFRASTRUCTURE AS IF IT WAS SO, ABSOLUTELY, WE'RE NOT BLOCKING ANY RUNOFF. WE WOULD NOT BE, AND WE WOULD BE DESIGNING INFRASTRUCTURE TO ALLOW FOR EVEN MORE WATER THAN WHAT IS THERE TODAY TO FLOW THROUGH THE PROPERTY. UM, THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF FEMA FLOODPLAIN OUT THERE TODAY, AND UNFORTUNATELY I THINK THEY ARE WITHIN A LOT OF THAT FLOODPLAIN. SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF WHAT THEY'RE SEEING HAS ANYTHING TO DO RELATIVE TO THAT. UM, BUT I DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT THE, THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS DOWNSTREAM OF OLD CORPUS CHRISTI. UM, THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT, UH, TRAFFIC CONCERNS. SO I WILL ADDRESS THAT. UH, OF COURSE WITH ANY DEVELOPMENT AND A MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. SO WE WOULD BE WORKING WITH THE CITY TO DETERMINE, UH, WHAT IMPACTS THERE ARE AND TO MITIGATE AS NEEDED, AS REQUIRED BY THE CODE. SO, UH, IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'M GLAD TO ANSWER THEM. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MS. CAROL AND MS. MCDONALD. YOU WANT TO LOSE, USE THAT LAST MINUTE OR JUST WAIT FOR QUESTIONS? SURE. UM, JUST VERY BRIEF. I KNOW WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME. UM, BECKY'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. WE WILL BE WITH OUR DRAINAGE STUDY, MAKING SURE WE'RE CHANNELING, UH, SO THERE IS NO BACKLOG AND THAT WE'RE NOT ALSO IMPACTING THE PEOPLE DOWNSTREAM OF US. UM, WE WILL, AND ALSO WITH THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN IN THE T I A WILL, WE WILL BE CONTRIBUTING OUR ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ROADS, UM, ARE UP TO WHAT WE ARE PUTTING ON FOR TRAFFIC WITH THE HOMES. SO WITH THAT, RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS CASE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. MCDONALD. THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE. UH, COMMISSIONER MCGEE, WE'RE GONNA GO TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS INITIALLY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT. UM, SO, UH, MS. MCDONALD, UM, , CAN YOU TELL ME, UM, SO IT'S 660 HOMES, UM, THE APPROXIMATE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE HOMES AND THE, AND THE, AND SQUARE FOOTAGE, UH, PER LOT? UH, I MEAN, YEAH, PER HOME PER LOT. SURE. UM, THERE'S GOING TO BE A MIXTURE OF, OF HOMES, ONE STORY, TWO STORY, UM, ANYWHERE BETWEEN TWO BEDROOMS TO FOUR BEDROOMS. SO, UH, THE LOTS WILL BE DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN R FOUR AND R FIVE SIZES. UM, AND THEN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE HOMES, IF I'M, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I GOT THOSE NUMBERS THIS MORNING, IS ANYWHERE BETWEEN 1700 SQUARE FEET ALL THE WAY UP TO 2300 SQUARE FEET. THANK YOU. UM, SO CAN YOU, UM, LET'S SEE. I THINK MY QUESTION NOW IS GONNA GO TO THE, UM, CITY STAFF. SO I THINK I HEARD QUITE A BIT OF ITEMS HERE, UM, MENTIONED BY, UM, THE CURRENT RESIDENTS OF THE AREA THAT HAVE TO DO WITH, UH, CITY SERVICES SUCH AS, UM, UH, THE DITCH MANAGEMENT, UM, THE BRIDGES, THE PAVEMENT, UH, TREES, UM, UH, TRASH ON THE ROAD AND WHATNOT. UM, [04:05:01] SO AM I CORRECT IN IDENTIFYING THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE, UM, CURRENT DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ALL CITY SERVICES, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. SO, BUT I WOULD, UM, STATE AND WHAT WE CAN DO IS PASS ON THAT INFORMATION TO THE APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENTS. IF YOU DO SEE THAT OVERGROWN, UH, BRUSH, UH, TRASH ON THE ROADS, CALL 3 1 1. OKAY. CAN I, UM, NO SIR. SORRY. NO, SIR. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. OH, BUT, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL REPORT IT TO SOMEONE ASK YOU A QUESTION. WE'LL REPORT IT TO THE APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENT SO THEY CAN DO A FOLLOW UP. OKAY. UH, UH, UM, MS. MCDONALD, UM, I KNOW THAT PROBABLY A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP HERE, UM, TODAY ARE DEFINITELY, UM, UH, PROBABLY, UH, CITY SERVICE RELATED, BUT I, I FEEL LIKE THERE MIGHT BE STILL, UM, SOME CONVERSATION THAT COULD BE HAD WITH, UM, NOT JUST WITH YOUR OFFICE, BUT WITH THE CITY COUNCIL OFFICE, UM, REGARDING SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE BROUGHT UP HERE TODAY. AND SINCE WE HAVE SO MANY NEIGHBORS, UM, AND I, IF I WAS THERE, I WOULD WANNA TALK TO THE ENGINEER SOME MORE AND ASK SOME QUESTIONS AND WHATNOT. WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO A, UM, A TWO WEEK CONTINUOUS? SO MAYBE THAT, UM, AND IT'S PROBABLY NOT FAIR FOR ME TO ASK THIS BECAUSE I WON'T BE THE ZONE ZONING COMMISSIONER ON, UM, UM, UH, RECORD AT THIS POINT. BUT I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORS, WITH YOUR, UM, REPRESENTATION AND WITH, UM, THE ENGINEER AND WITH, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL OFFICE. WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO THAT? ABSOLUTELY. UM, WE OFFERED THAT LAST WEEK TO THE GENTLEMAN THAT ARE HERE TODAY, UM, AT, WHILE THEY WERE AT PLANNING COMMISSION. UM, THEY DID NOT REACH OUT, SO WE'LL MAKE SURE TO FOLLOW UP AND TRY TO GET SOME THINGS SET UP. OKAY. I I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I'M LEANING, BUT OF COURSE I'LL UM, UH, TURN IT BACK TO YOU. UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, CHAIR BUSANTE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMISSIONER MCGEE, UH, THE COMMISSIONER'S PRESENT. ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? YES, COMMISSIONER WHEAT. THANK YOU. UH, QUESTION FOR MR. FELLER? YES SIR. CAN YOU PLEASE CAP PODIUM IN PLEASE, SIR? THANK YOU. YES, SIR. CAN YOU VERIFY ON THIS, UH, GRAPHIC HERE THAT YOU'RE IDENTIFYING THE FLOODING THAT'S NORTH OF THE DEVELOPMENT OR CORRECT UP THERE WHERE THE YELLOW, CAN YOU, CAN YOU BRING THAT SCREEN, THAT ONE DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT? SLIDE THE SLIDE DOWN. GO UP NOW, NOW GO UP, I'M SORRY. WHERE THE YELLOW MARKING IS UP THERE, THERE YOU GO. THE, THE FLOOD PLAIN. THE FLOOD, THE FLOODING AREA THAT WE HAVE IS 1 2 9 5 9 1 3 0 4 7 1 3 0 6 1. ALL OF THAT AREA RIGHT THERE, UH, OFF OF OLD CORPUS CHRISTI. ALL THAT WATER RUNS THROUGH THERE TO THE, TO THE TRACKS. I DUNNO HOW YOU CAN DO THAT, BUT ALL THAT WATER RUNS THERE BECAUSE THERE'S MORE WATER THAT COMES OFF OF THE, ON THE RIGHT SIDE. OKAY, THERE YOU GO. OKAY, UH, ONE MORE TIME. THERE WE GO. UH, ON THIS ONE, THE LOCATION OF THE RESIDENCE HERE, BUT WE HAVE, WE STILL HAVE WATER THAT COMES ACROSS FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF OLD CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD COMES ACROSS OLD CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD, COMES THROUGH OUR PROPERTY AND THEN OF COURSE IS GONNA GO INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AREA. OKAY, THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO VERIFY THAT I WASN'T SURE GIVEN THE ADDRESSES YOU HAD, I COULDN'T CORRELATE IT TO MY MAP. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. UH, QUESTION FOR, UH, BECKY. SO BECKY, SO YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT YOUR DEVELOPMENT WAS, UH, IN YOUR OPINION WAS NOT GOING TO CAUSE, UH, THAT YOU'RE DOWNSTREAM FROM, UH, THE NEIGHBORS HERE. YES. IS THERE GOING TO BE AN ISSUE WHERE THIS DEVELOPMENT'S GONNA DAM UP THE WATER? NO. UM, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT BY CODE. AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE WOULD, UM, INSTALL SOME INTERCEPTOR CHANNELS LIKELY AT THE PERIMETER THAT WOULD COLLECT ALL OF THAT WATER AND RUN IT TO THE NEAREST FLOOD PLAIN. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. . THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER JONES. ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER ROMERO, DR. ROMERO OR COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? NO. YES. COMM COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UM, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. UM, I, I'M JUST CURIOUS [04:10:01] ACTUALLY, SO WE'VE GOT 182 ACRES ROUGHLY, AND I KNOW WE'RE LIMITED TO AROUND 660 HOMES BECAUSE OF FLOODPLAIN, BUT WHAT DOES THAT TRANSLATE INTO? HOW MANY APPROXIMATE ACRES THEN WILL, WILL BE LEFT OR USED IN SOME OTHER FASHION? DO YOU KNOW THAT? I DO NOT HAVE THAT ON HAND. GOOD NEWS. YOU MIGHT HAVE THE CHANCE TO BRING THE CALCULUS TO US LATER. . YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY, COMMISSIONER, I DON'T, I'M AFRAID I DON'T HAVE THE APPROXIMATE ACREAGE OF THE FLOODPLAIN AND THE, UH, THE SINGLE FAMILY PORTION. OKAY. WELL I CAN GET THAT FROM YOU NEXT TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER MCGEE TO YOU FOR MOTION AND DISCUSSION. UM, ABSOLUTELY. UM, WELL, UM, FIRST, UH, TO STAFF, WHAT IS THE DATE AGAIN FOR THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING? IT IS SEPTEMBER 7TH. SEPTEMBER 7TH. YEAH. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, TO THE NEIGHBORS. UM, I, UH, I, MR. FULLER GOT TO SPEAK MR. FELLER, BUT I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER NEIGHBORS IN THE AUDIENCE AND PROBABLY WATCHING AND SO, UM, AND, AND IT TAKES OUR VOICES TO BE HEARD WHEN WE NEED, UH, SERVICES. SO I, UM, THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING UP AND CONTINUE TO SPEAK UP SO THAT YOU CAN, UM, GET YOUR, UM, UH, NEEDS MET. UM, I, UM, WOULD LIKE TO, UM, MAKE A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE TO THE SEPTEMBER 7TH MEETING, RIGHT? THERE IS A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER 7TH. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND I'LL, I'LL GO WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UM, ALRIGHT. UH, ANY DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS PRESENT? I WOULD SAY ONLY THIS, UH, TO THE FELLOWS AND THE SMALL ZS. YOU HAVE A VERY STRONG ALLY, NOT JUST THROUGH THE SEPTEMBER 7TH, BUT THROUGH THE OCTOBER 7TH TO GET SOME ATTENTION FROM THE COUNCIL OFFICE. I WOULD USE THAT IF I WERE YOU. UH, BECAUSE THIS IS A WAY TO GET, YOU KNOW, SOME FACETIME, UH, BUT BEYOND THAT, I HAVE NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONERS. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE. THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH. HOPE Y'ALL CONTINUE TO WORK AND WORK WITH THE COUNCIL OFFICE. ALL RIGHT. GOOD LUCK TO Y'ALL. THANK LADIES. [11. ZONING CASE Z202110700178 CD (Council District 5): A request for a change in zoning from "NC IDZ AHOD" Neighborhood Commercial Infill Development Overlay Airport Hazard Overlay District to "R4 CD AHOD" Residential SingleFamily Airport Hazard Overlay District with Conditional Use for Four (4) Residential Units on the East 60 feet of Lot 13, NCB 7568, located at 164 Oelkers Street. Staff recommends Approval. (Daniel Hazlett, Development Services Manager (210) 2078270, Daniel.Hazlett@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)] ALL RIGHT. I BELIEVE THIS IS OUR LAST ZONING CASE. CASE NUMBER 11. YEAH. ITEM NUMBER 11 IS SIR, REQUEST TO RESUME FROM N C I D Z A H O D TO R FOUR C D A H O D WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR RESIDENTIAL UNITS AT 1 64 4 OILERS STREET. THERE WERE 43 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM LONE STAR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORING LANDS. IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. IT MAINTAINS THE BASE R FOUR DISTRICT AND ALLOWS A CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR UNITS. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH. IS THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PRESENT? YES. ALEX, IF YOU WOULD, SIR, PLEASE COME FORWARD, UH, INTRODUCE YOURSELF, PROVIDE YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US ABOUT WHY YOU'RE SEEKING THIS REZONING. SURE. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, MY NAME IS ALEX SAMARA. OH, CAN YOU PULL UP THE MICROPHONE A LITTLE BIT? CAN YOU HEAR ME? OH, YES. YEAH, JUST MY NAME IS ALEX SAMARA. I'M REPRESENTING THE, THE OWNER. UH, I LIVE ON 2 4 2 CEREMONIAL RIDGE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 6 0. AND UH, WE'RE JUST SEEKING TO, TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM THE CURRENT ZONING TO R FOUR M WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE, UH, TO BUILD FOR APARTMENT COMPLEXES TO THAT SUITS THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I BELIEVE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, STAFF. IS THERE ANY, WELL, LET ME ASK THIS. IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? YES, ADRIAN RUBIO. OKAY. AND WE ALSO DO HAVE A VOICEMAIL ON THIS ONE? YES MA'AM. MR. RUBIO, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE [04:15:01] YOURSELF AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US YOUR THOUGHTS. YES, A GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. MY NAME IS AIDEN RUBIO. I LIVE AT 2 39 ERS. I, UH, I ORIGINALLY WAS FOR THE, UH, FOR THE CONTINUANCE OF THE COMMERCIAL BECAUSE THAT, THAT LOT AT ONE TIME USED TO BE A SMALL STORE, UH, YOU KNOW, SMALL LITTLE MINI MART FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IT WAS VERY CONVENIENT FOR US JUST TO WALK AND TO PICK UP OUR BREAD, BUTTER AND, AND MILK. UH, NOW, UH, IT IS COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT, THAT IT'S, IT'S UP FOR THE BOARD FOR REZONING FOR, FOR, UH, FOR RESIDENTIAL USE. AND, UH, I'VE BEEN WALKING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASKING PEOPLE WHAT THEY THINK THAT THEY SHOULD WANT TO, YOU KNOW, UH, TO HAPPEN FOR THAT LOT AND, AND, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, AND I'M AT MIXED, UH, EMOTIONS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY BROUGHT UP THE BAD STUFF AND THE BAD HISTORY OF IT. AND THEN THEY'RE BRINGING UP THE GOOD O OF, OF, OF, OF KEEPING IT RESIDENTIAL. SO, SO COMING IN LIMBO AT THE TIME. AND I KIND OF WANTED TO KIND OF KEEP IT AS, AS A COMMERCIAL FOR, FOR THE STORE. BUT, UH, UH, I, I GUESS I'M OPEN AND I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT OR AGAINST IT. SO I I, I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T HAVE SEEN HIM SIGNED UP TO, TO COME UP HERE. , APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT MR. RUBIO. THANK YOU. BUT, BUT WHATEVER YOU GUYS FEEL IS BEST FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, IT IS WHAT IT IS. THANK YOU. WELL, I, I HOPE YOU'LL STICK AROUND FOR THE REST OF THIS AND I HOPE YOU'LL TALK TO, UH, MR. SAMARA AND YOU CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT HE'S DOING 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT THE FINAL WORD ON THIS. UH, SO IF YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND, YOU CAN TALK TO HIM AND TALK TO YOUR COUNSEL OFFICE. I SURE WILL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT. VOICEMAIL. YEAH, I RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE CITY, CASE NUMBER 1 0 701 7 8 CD IN REGARD TO THE PROPERTY AT, UM, 1 64 OAKERS. THEY WANT TO MAKE A FOURPLEX, UM, IN OPPOSITION TO THIS. THAT INTERSECTION IS VERY CONGESTED. AS YOU PULL UP TO THE INTERSECTION OF, UH, GRAND JEAN AND OAKERS, YOU CANNOT SEE TO YOUR RIGHT OR YOUR LEFT 'CAUSE THERE ARE TOO MANY CARS ON THE STREET. AND BY ADDING AN ADDITIONAL FOURPLEX AT THAT INTERSECTION, THERE'S GONNA BE ADDITIONAL CARS THERE. AND, UH, I'M JUST OPPOSED TO THIS DECISION, ALSO OPPOSED TO THEM, UH, BUILDING ANOTHER STORE AT THAT LOCATION. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE, SIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, MR. SAMARA, IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU WANT TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE SO FAR? UM, NO, ACTUALLY, I MEAN, UH, A STORE WILL BRING A LOT OF CARS AS WELL. I MEAN, SO IF THE INTERSECTION DID NOT ACCOMMODATE FOR CARS IN THE PAST, I MEAN, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE HOW A FOURPLEX WILL, WILL ADD TO THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, ALL RIGHT, THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE, SO THIS IS ONE OF MINE. UM, COULD WE GO AHEAD AND GET, UH, THE SITE PLAN UP FOR THIS CONDITIONAL USE PLEASE. ALRIGHT, SO, UM, MR. RO, CAN YOU JUST WALK US THROUGH THIS JUST TO TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS PROJECT, WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO ADDRESS ADDITIONAL CARS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE? OKAY. UH, SO I'M NOT SURE IF THERE IS AN ENTRANCE. I THINK THERE WAS AN ENTRANCE FACING, OH, HERE YOU GO. IT'S, IT'S A TWO STORY. IT'S A TWO STORY BUILDING, UH, 533 1 BEDROOM, UH, APARTMENT DOWNSTAIRS AND UPSTAIRS. SO IT'S BASICALLY A DUPLICATE, UH, UPSTAIRS, 839 SQUARE FEET, TWO BEDROOM APARTMENTS. SO IT ALLOWS FOR FOUR CAR PARKING. IT'S VERY LIMITED, UH, UH, PARKING THERE. SO, I MEAN, I HONESTLY THINK THAT IT'LL HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT'S ALL RESIDENTIAL THERE. AND SO LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TWO CARS ALONG THE RIGHT HAND SIDE THERE. UM, IS THERE AN ALLEY BACK ON THE BACK END OF THAT CAR? IS THAT HOW THAT CAR WOULD GET INTO THAT CARPORT? NO, ACTUALLY, UH, OKAY, SO SORRY ABOUT THAT. SO THERE IS AN ENTRANCE RIGHT THERE, AN APPROACH, UH, WHERE THE, WERE THOSE TWO CARS FACING AND IT WILL, IT WILL LEAD TO I BELIEVE, CARS OR IS THAT GRAND? OKAY. GRAND. YEAH. BUT AS FAR AS THE CAR THAT'S PARALLEL TO KERS RIGHT THERE, UHHUH, IS, IS THAT WHERE THE ARROW IS? IS THAT AN ALLEY WHERE YOU CAN DRIVE IN THAT WAY? NO, THAT'S, THAT'S ACTUALLY THE LOT. THE WHOLE THING IS A LOT. OKAY. THERE IS NO ALLEY. AND, AND I THINK AS FAR AS I REMEMBER, THERE IS AN APPROACH RIGHT NEXT TO IT, TO KER STREET THAT LEADS TO RE STREET, BUT I GUESS THE, [04:20:02] THE ARCHITECT FAILED TO, TO PUT THAT ONE. SO THERE WOULD BE, THERE WOULD BE ACCESS FROM RE STREET TO THAT BACK CARPORT? AS FAR AS I REMEMBER, YES SIR. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. UH, COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE PRESENT, ANY QUESTIONS, UH, SAYING NONE, COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE REMOTE? ANY QUESTIONS? YES. COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. UM, SO, UM, TO STAFF, SO THE, WHEN IT WAS A, OKAY, SO THE, UM, IT WAS WHAT IT WAS THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMERCIAL I D Z. RIGHT. SO, UM, IF IT WERE TO, UH, STAY, NOT BE REZONED SO IT COULD POTENTIALLY BECOME A STORE AGAIN? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, AND MY NEXT QUESTION, SO ARE THERE OTHER, UM, MULTIFAMILY IN THE AREA, UH, OR DUPLEXES OR ANY, ANY STAFF, ANYBODY, ANY OTHER DUPLEXES OR OTHER HOUSES LIKE THAT IN THE AREA? NO. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE MAY BE SOME ALONG BANK STREET, THERE'S SOME CDS UP THERE, LIKELY FOR TWO OR MORE UNITS. MM-HMM. . OKAY. AND, AND, UM, AND AGAIN TO, UM, THE APPLICANT ONE, ONE MORE TIME. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT, UM, UH, ON YOUR SITE PLAN, THAT THAT SECOND CAR THAT WAS THERE, UM, OFF OF, UH, ELKER, THERE IS ANOTHER, UM, ENTRANCE THERE, CORRECT. FOR THAT OTHER CAR TO GET THERE? OKAY. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCGEE. UH, ANY OTHER REMOTE QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER JONES. DR. JONES? UH, YES, AS FAR AS THE, CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A HOUSE BEHIND THAT, SO IT LOOKS LIKE THAT. SAY IF I'M, I'M AHEAD OF THAT. I HAVE TO COME OUT AND BACK THE OTHER CAR OUT. LET BE MICRO YOUR MICROPHONE. I WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, IF I'M PARKED IN THE FRONT AND I NEEDED TO GET OUT, I'D HAVE TO HAVE THAT OTHER CAR MOVED. ACTUALLY, THIS IS THE APPROACH, UH, UH, I MEAN THE, THE ENTRANCE TO THE PROPERTY, THIS IS ALL CLEAR REGULARLY, I BELIEVE. AND SO THOSE TWO CARS ARE GONNA BE PARKED SIDEWAYS. SO THIS, HERE YOU GO. SO THIS IS KER, THAT'S WHERE YOU WERE LOOKING FROM. SO THESE TWO CARS ACTUALLY THEY HAVE, THEY BOTH HAVE ACCESS TO ERS. ONE OF 'EM CAN GO FORWARD AND ONE OF 'EM CAN GO OUT THIS WAY. SO THE L IS THIS WAY? THE YEAH. OKAY. THE TWO CARS ARE PARKED, ARE PARKED LIKE SIDEWAYS IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT THIS WAY. I DON'T HAVE A POINT OR TWO. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, YOU'RE WELCOME. ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS. ALRIGHT, AS I SAID, THIS WAS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE. UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE IN THIS CITY AS WE GROW FORWARD AND AS WE HAVE IN DISTRICT FIVE IS THE AVAILABILITY OF HOUSING, UH, OF DIFFERENT VARIETIES OF DIFFERENT SIZES. IDEALLY, YOU KNOW, THE ONE BEDROOM IS 553 SQUARE FEET IN THIS AND THAT'S SMALL, BUT THAT ALSO MEANS THAT IT'S AVAILABLE TO SOMEONE WHO'S JUST LOOKING FOR A FIRST PLACE TO, TO GO. UM, AND SO IN LIGHT OF THAT, IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THERE WERE 43 NOTICES MAILED AND NO ONE RESPONDED THAT MR. RUBIO WAS HERE, AND I HOPE YOU GOT A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION. UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE HAD SOME STRONG OPPOSITION FROM A VOICEMAIL BUT YOU KNOW, WAS ALSO OPPOSED TO THE EXISTING USE. SO I'M GONNA MOVE FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED AND I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. THERE IS A SECOND. FROM DR. JONES. ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE PRESENT? COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE REMOTE? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE. UM, THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH. ROLL CALL VOTE. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. MOTION PASSES. ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU EVERYONE. I BELIEVE THAT'S THE END OF OUR ZONING CASES. UM, SO I BELIEVE [27. Consideration and Approval of the August 3, 2021 Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes.] WE HAVE ONE OTHER ITEM [04:25:01] ON OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF THE AUGUST SEC, UH, AUGUST 3RD MEETING MINUTES. ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS? UH, ADDITIONS? YEAH. ANY OTHER CHANGES TO THE MEETING MINUTES AS SUBMITTED? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE THAT THE MINUTES OF AUGUST 7TH MEETING BE ACCEPTED AS, AS SUBMITTED? IS THERE A SECOND? WE WE SECOND. ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION. AND SECOND TO APPROVE AND ACCEPT THE MINUTES FOR AUGUST 3RD. UM, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. VOICE VOTE. VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? NONE. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. UH, WELL, COMMISSIONER MCGEE, I AM SORRY THAT THIS IS HOW WE GET TO SEND YOU OFF , UH, WITH NO ONE IN THE ROOM. AND YOU'RE COR BEAR. HERE WE GO. BUT, UH, I KNOW EVERYONE HERE AND EVERYONE WHO'S ABSENT AGAIN, JUST REALLY YOU MADE OUR SERVICE ON THIS COMMISSION BETTER. YOU WERE A WONDERFUL CHAIR AND WE WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK IN YOUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS AND WE WILL MISS YOU DEARLY. UM, I WILL MISS YOU ALL TOO. IT'S BEEN AN ABSOLUTE PLEASURE TO SERVE WITH EACH OF YOU AND I WISH YOU CONTINUED SUCCESS AND GOOD STRATEGIC INSIGHTS, UH, ON, UH, MAKING, UM, HOPEFULLY GOOD POLICY, WELL HELPING SHAPE POLICY FOR OUR CITIZENS. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE. THANK YOU AGAIN, COMMISSIONER MCGEE. AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE HOPE THE PERSON WHO REPLACES YOU IS HALF AS GOOD AS YOU ARE AND WE WILL BE A VERY, VERY LUCKY COMMISSION. SO THANK YOU. UH, IS THERE ANY FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THIS COMMISSION? THERE BEING NONE. AT 5 43 THIS, UH, PUBLIC HEARING OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.