Aug 27, 2021 Governance Committee on 2021-08-27 09:00 AM

UM, WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TODAY.

UM, I'M ACTUALLY NOT SEEING AN AGENDA, BUT, UH, I BELIEVE THE, UH,

[1. Approval of minutes from April 21, 2021 ]

MINUTES ARE UP FIRST.

UM, MADAM CLERK, COULD YOU READ THE CAPTION ON THE MINUTES, THE MINUTES, UM, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE APRIL 21ST, 2021 GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE MEETING.

UM, AND EVERYONE, EVERYONE, THE MINUTES.

THERE'S A MOTION BY KURDS SECOND BY ROCHA GARCIA.

UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MINUTES? ALL RIGHT.

HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AND RAISE YOUR HAND.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? I MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT ITEM IS A PRESENTATION REGARDING THE C C R PROCESS.

UM,

[2. Review of applications to fill seven AtLarge Alternate positions to the Zoning Board of Adjustments for a term of office to expire May 31, 2023. [Tina J. Flores, City Clerk]]

UH, LET ME TURN IT OVER NOW TO, UH, OUR CITY ATTORNEY, ANDY SEGOVIA, OR IS THAT TO, UH, IS THAT TO YOU, ANDY? YES.

UH, MAYOR IT IS.

HOPEFULLY.

CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? YOU'RE GREAT.

SO, UH, IT'S EITHER THAT, UH, CCRS LIKE THAT, OR CCRS, FRANKLY, THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, IN THE QUA FOR ABOUT A YEAR, FOR A YEAR MORE.

UH, 'CAUSE I'M USING VIDEO ON ONE COMPUTER AND I'M USING THE AUDIO ON THE PHONE.

UH, WE DO HAVE ONE SLIDE, UH, FOR THE PRESENTATION.

MAYOR.

UH, ESSENTIALLY WE JUST WANT TO GIVE A LEVEL SET ON THE C C R PROCESS AND A METHOD FOR WHICH WE CAN PROBABLY, UH, FACILITATE, UH, SCHEDULING AND PROCESSING OF CCRS.

UH, SO WE CAN PUT THAT, THAT CHART UP.

SO, AGAIN, THIS IS A REMINDER TO EVERYONE, THE C C R, UH, THROUGH OUR C C R PROCESS.

IT REQUIRES FIVE SIGNATURES, USUALLY THE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER THAT'S SUBMITTING THE C C R AND FOUR ADDITIONAL, UH, SIGNATURES.

OBVIOUSLY, THE REASON WE DO THAT IS TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T RUN A FILE OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, WHERE WE HAVE A, UH, QUORUM OF COUNSEL, UH, CONSENTING AROUND A PARTICULAR ISSUE.

HENCE, WE HAVE THE FIVE SIGNATURE REQUIREMENT, UH, ONCE THAT'S SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK, UH, THEN THAT IS, UH, THEN SENT TO THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE, UH, FOR SCHEDULING OR SENDING IT TO THE APPROPRIATE, UH, CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE.

UH, WE'RE TRYING AS BEST WE CAN TO SCHEDULE THOSE AND PROCESS THEM AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.

UH, AND TO FACILITATE THAT, WE'RE GONNA ASK COUNCIL MEMBERS AS YOU'RE DEVELOPING A C C R TO REACH OUT TO CITY STAFF, UH, PARTICULARLY THAT, THAT CITY STAFF THAT WOULD MEET NEED TO BE AN INTEGRAL PART OF IMPLEMENTING ANY REQUIRED ACTION, UH, SO THAT WE CAN, UM, HELP THE COUNCIL MEMBER IN TERMS OF STRUCTURING THAT, UH, SO THAT IT IS FOCUSED ON WHATEVER ACTION THE COUNCIL MEMBER IS REQUESTING.

UH, WE WANNA ALSO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER'S BEING REQUESTED IS WITHIN THE CITY'S AUTHORITY TO DO.

UH, OBVIOUSLY, IF SOMETHING IS PROHIBITED BY STATE LAW, WE'RE GONNA MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT.

THE GOOD NEWS IS USUALLY THERE'S OTHER ALTERNATIVES OR OPTIONS WE CAN USE THAT, UH, CAN MEET THE SAME OVERALL OBJECTIVE THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S TRYING TO SERVE BY FILING THE C C R.

UM, AND THERE MAY BE SOME CCRS THAT WE FOUND IN THE PAST, UH, THAT ARE EITHER UNDER DEVELOPMENT OR HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED THAT ARE ALREADY, UH, PART OF EITHER ANOTHER C C R OR PART OF ALREADY ANOTHER CITY, UH, INITIATED, UH, PROGRAM, UM, OR PROPOSAL.

SO, UH, AGAIN, WE ARE TRYING TO, AS BEST WE CAN, UH, MAKE THE PROCESS MORE EFFICIENT.

UM, WE WANNA MAKE, MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LONG LINE OF CCRS THAT ARE WAITING FOR CONSIDERATION.

UH, SO PART OF THAT TOO ARE GONNA BE, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THE, THE QUA IS, IS ONE THAT WE CAN MANAGE.

UH, SO EXPIRED CCRS WILL FALL OFF THE QUA.

AND WHAT DO I MEAN BY AN EXPIRED C C R? IT'S ONE THAT WAS EITHER INITIATED OR CO-SIGNED, UH, BY OUR FORMAL, FORMAL COUNCIL MEMBER.

UH, I'LL GIVE AN EXAMPLE.

NOT EVEN OF THE LAST COUNCIL, BUT TWO PREVIOUS COUNCILS WHERE WE HAD, UH, THREE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT SOON CAME OFF THE, THE COUNCIL, UH, THEY SUBMITTED A C C R ON AIRPORT PARKING.

UH, AND THAT ONE FELL OFF THE QUA.

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AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ASSIGNED OR, OR ACTED UPON BY A COMMITTEE.

UH, AND AGAIN, THAT THAT IS THERE SO THAT WE CAN PAY ATTENTION, UH, TO, UH, THE FACT THAT WE, WE DO HAVE CCRS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE QUA FOR SOME TIME.

UH, WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE THOSE SO THAT THEY DON'T FALL INTO THAT BUCKET.

SO AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL AIMED AT TRYING TO MAKE OUR C C R PROCESS MORE EFFICIENT, UH, MAKING SURE WE GET THEM THROUGH THE, UH, SYSTEM IN A, IN A TIMELY MANNER, UH, AND THAT WE CAN HELP HOPEFULLY THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE SUBMITTING CCRS, UH, NAVIGATE THAT PROCESS.

SO, THAT'S ALL I HAD, MARY.

AGAIN, IT WAS JUST A LEVEL SET ON C C R AND, AND SOME, SOME THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO, TO HELP, UH, TO HELP RUN THOSE THROUGH THE PROCESS MORE QUICKLY.

THANK YOU ANDY.

UM, AND WELCOME.

FIRST OF ALL, I APOLOGIZE THERE WAS A WORLD HERITAGE, UH, FESTIVAL OPENING THAT WAS THE REASON WHY I WAS RUNNING LATE.

BUT, UM, WELCOME TO THE NEW CITY COUNCIL GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE.

UH, I THINK OUR, OUR NEW MEMBER, UH, THIS TERM IS COUNCIL MEMBER KEO VARDA.

SO THIS IS A NEW GROUP, UH, SO A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LEVEL SET AND GOOD TIMING ON THIS.

UM, BEFORE WE GET INTO, UH, THE, THE BUSINESS OF TODAY, WHICH IS THE APPLICANT'S ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, LET'S PAUSE HERE FOR A MOMENT IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THE C C R PROCESS.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE.

UH, I JUST KIND OF WANT TO CLARIFY, UH, THE, WE JUST RECEIVED COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE.

YOU'RE HAVING, UH, WE CAN'T, THIS WAS COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE.

WE, WE GOT REALLY BAD LAG ON YOUR END ON THE AUDIO.

SO WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T HEAR YOU.

UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA SET, I TURNED OFF MY, I TURNED YEAH, TRY THAT.

AND IF YOU CAN JUST REPEAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

YEAH.

I TURNED OFF THE VIDEO.

HOPEFULLY YOU CAN HEAR ME BETTER.

UH, MY QUESTION IS, IF, IF, UH, IF COUNCIL MEMBERS SUBMIT A C C R, UH, AND LET'S SAY IT'S SIX MONTHS OR EIGHT MONTHS BEFORE AN ELECTION, AND TWO OR THREE MEMBERS ON THAT WHO SIGNED OFF THAT C C R, UH, ARE NOT REELECTED OR, OR FOR WHATEVER REASON, DOES THAT MEAN THAT C C R IS NO GOOD ANYMORE? BECAUSE YOU JUST SAID IF FORMER COUNCIL MEMBERS SIGNED IT, IT, IT GOES OUT OF THE LIST.

THAT, THAT IS THE, UH, THAT IS THE INTENT, UH, COUNCILMAN, BUT IT'S NOT, WHEN IT'S NOT DURING THE REELECTION PROCESS, IT'S, IT WOULD BE, UH, AFTER THE, THE ELECTION, UH, RESULTS ARE IN, OBVIOUSLY, YEAH.

AND A FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER.

BUT AGAIN, UM, KEEPING THAT IN MIND WHEN, IF WE DO SEE A C C R, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, IN WHICH HAS BEEN SIGNED BY A NUMBER OF COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE EITHER UP FOR REELECT, THAT ARE UP FOR REELECTION, UM, AGAIN, WE JUST, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE SORT OF FLAG THOSE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T GET INTO A, A SITUATION WHERE IT'S FORMER COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO, WE WOULD ASK THAT WE WOULD BE RESUBMITTED.

UH, SO AGAIN, UH, THE, THIS SYSTEM IS MEANT TO SORT OF RED FLAG ITEMS FOR US SO THAT THEY DON'T GET LOST IN THE QUA.

UH, AND CERTAINLY THAT'S THE INTENT NOT TO, UH, TRY TO DERAIL ANY, ANY CCRS.

WELL, I GUESS I INTERPRET THAT TO MEAN THAT IF YOU WRITE A C C R WITHIN YOUR FIRST MONTH OR TWO OF SERVICE, YOU BETTER MAKE SURE IT GETS HEARD BEFORE THE END OF YOUR FIRST TWO YEARS BECAUSE OF ANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO SIGNED ON, ON AROUND TWO YEARS FROM NOW, THEN IT'S DEAD.

SO I HOPE THAT MEANS WE ARE GOING TO EXPEDITE CCRS COMING BEFORE THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE.

YEAH.

IF I CAN JUMP IN ON THAT, UM, THAT IS THE INTENT.

I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE GO FROM ONE SESSION TO THE NEXT.

ESSENTIALLY IT'S A TWO YEAR ELECTION CYCLE.

SO IF IT'S NOT HEARD, UH, THEN IT'S NOT MOVING THROUGH THE PROCESS FOR ONE REASON OR OR ANOTHER.

AND USUALLY THAT REASON IS RELATED TO IT'S REDUNDANCY, IT'S LACK OF LEGAL STATUTORY, UM, UH, AUTHORITY OR SOMETHING, WHICH IS IN THAT FIRST SLIDE OR FIRST PART OF THE SLIDE THAT ANDY PRESENTED.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT WORK ON THE BACKEND WILL HELP FACILITATE, UM, MOVING THESE CCRS THROUGH MORE, MORE EFFICIENTLY.

GOVERNANCE COUNCIL MEMBER, PIA.

THANKS.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER KJ, UM, AND I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE TO COUNCIL MEMBER PIA, HE'S ALSO NEW TO THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE.

SO, UH, WELCOME TO, UH,

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YEAH, WHATEVER.

IT'S A BIT TOO LATE.

AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER COVEO HVAR, UH, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR, UH, UM, ABOUT JOHN, I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN KURT'S QUESTION.

THAT'S ONLY IF THE FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER INITIATED OR CO-SIGNED IT.

IT'S NOT, DOESN'T HAVE, DOESN'T INCLUDE THE REST OF THE SIGNATURES, CORRECT? UH, COUNCILMAN, I, I THINK I, IT WOULD, UH, IN MY MIND IT WOULD BE IF IT'S, UH, UH, UH, SPONSORED OR CO-SIGNED BY AN, AN EXITING COUNCIL MEMBER.

BUT, UH, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO MY PREVIOUS EXAMPLE, IF YOU DO HAVE, UH, THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT SIGNED ON, UM, AND THEY'RE NO LONGER HERE, IT'D BE ONE WHERE, UM, WE WOULD AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, FLAG THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S STILL SOMETHING THAT WE WANNA PUSH THROUGH THE SYSTEM.

BUT AGAIN, AS THE MAYOR SAID, OUR, OUR INTENT HERE IS TO FLAG ITEMS SO THAT THEY DON'T GET LOST IN THE QUA.

SURE.

UM, SO, UH, I ALSO, UM, HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, UM, UH, WHETHER YOU WERE ABLE TO IN YOUR C C R OR REQUESTED IT BE HEARD IN THE COMMITTEE, BECAUSE, UM, IF WE ONLY HAVE A YEAR TO GET THAT HEARD BY A COMMITTEE, SHOULD WE DELINEATE, OR WHAT SHOULD WE ASK IN THE C C R? WHAT, WHAT COMMITTEE? WE'D LIKE TO HEAR THAT.

UM, JUST SO IT DOESN'T GET, BECAUSE IF IT DOESN'T GET PICKED UP IN A COMMITTEE IN A YEAR, THEN IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S DROPPED, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

COUNCILMAN.

AND IN THE C C R, CERTAINLY, UH, THE SPONSOR, THE CO-SIGNER CAN REQUEST A SPECIFIC COMMITTEE.

IT'S ULTIMATELY THOUGH, THIS COMMITTEE HERE, THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE OH, OKAY.

DECIDES WHICH, UH, WHERE IT GOES.

SO IT COMES TO GOVERNANCE FIRST AND THEN TO THE COMMITTEE.

HDA, COUNCIL MEMBER K.

UH, ANYTHING ELSE ON THE C C R PROCESS? OKAY.

UM, ALRIGHT.

WE HAVE A NUMBER OF GUESTS WITH US TODAY, UM, FOR ZONING, BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

AND LET ME GO AHEAD AND CALL THAT ITEM NUMBER THREE, UH, WHICH IS THE REVIEW, UH, OF APPLICATIONS TO FILL SEVEN AT LARGE ALTERNATE POSITIONS TO THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

AND AGAIN, UH, WE HAVE A ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT WITH ACTIVE MEMBERS, AND WE HAVE A ROSTER OF ALTERNATES SO THEY CAN MAINTAIN QUORUM OF NINE.

SO WE HAVE SEVEN OPEN POSITIONS ON THE ALTERNATE ROSTER THAT ARE GONNA BE FILLED TODAY.

UH, AND WE HAVE 12 APPLICANTS.

INITIALLY THERE WERE 14 APPLICANTS, OR 15, EXCUSE ME, ONE, UH, WAS NOT, UM, ELIGIBLE.

UH, AND THEN OF THE 14 TWO WITHDREW APPLICATIONS, UH, WILLIAM CURTIS, ALONG WITH CY TREVINO, SO THEY'RE NOT HERE TODAY.

UH, SO WE HAVE 12, UH, APPLICANTS FOR THE SEVEN ALTERNATE POSITIONS THAT ARE WITH US TODAY.

AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE INTERVIEWS IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER.

UH, BEFORE WE, UM, GO RIGHT INTO INTERVIEWS, LET ME JUST ESTABLISH PROCESS.

HOW WE HAVE DONE IT IN THE PAST WITH, WITH LARGER BOARDS IS THAT WE PROVIDE EVERYBODY TWO MINUTES WITH AN OPEN FOR AN OPENING STATEMENT.

AND THEN, UH, WE OPEN IT UP FOR COUNCIL DISCUSSION.

UH, IF THERE ARE ANY COUNCIL QUESTIONS, UM, WE DISCUSS THOSE AT THAT TIME.

AND THEN WE JUST GO DOWN THE LIST.

UH, CITY COUNCIL WILL THEN BREAK INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, AND COME BACK OUT WITH OUR DECISION ON, UH, THE ROSTER AND, AND MOVE THAT FORWARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR RATIFICATIONS.

SO, ANY QUESTIONS ON PROCESS, UH, FOR MY COLLEAGUES AND ANDY, IF I DIDN'T GET ANY OF THAT RIGHT, UH, FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN.

GOT THAT RIGHT, MAYOR.

IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS THEN, UM, DO WE HAVE ALL OF THE INTERVIEWEES APPLICANTS, UM, IN THE ACTIVE ROOM HERE, MAYOR? I BELIEVE WE'RE CALLING THEM UP INDIVIDUALLY.

ALRIGHT, THEN, UH, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, WE'LL START WITH PATRICK CONROY FROM DISTRICT ONE.

AND, UH, MADAM CLERK, IF YOU COULD KEEP TIME AND JUST GIVE US A SOFT SIGNAL WHEN, UH, THE TWO MINUTES IS REACHED.

UH, WE WILL, UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO QUESTIONS FROM THERE.

MR. CONROY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US AND FOR YOUR APPLICATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, EACH APPLICANT GIVE A TWO MINUTE OPENING STATEMENT AND THEN PROVIDE THE FLOOR TO, UH, MY COLLEAGUES TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

AND THEN WE'RE GONNA PROCEED.

DO YOU HAVE, UM, THE FIRST INTERVIEW TODAY? SO, UH, AFTER YOU'RE DONE AND, AND ARE DISMISSED INTO THE WAITING ROOM, THERE'LL BE A LITTLE BIT OF A WAIT.

UH, AND WE APOLOGIZE

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FOR THAT.

WE JUST ASK FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

SO WITHOUT, UH, FURTHER, MR. CONROY, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

WELL, THANK YOU.

UH, LITERALLY THE FIRST I HEARD ABOUT A TWO MINUTE STATEMENT WAS ABOUT 40 SECONDS AGO.

SO, UM, I, UH, MY APOLOGIES IF THIS COMES OFF SOMEWHAT DISORGANIZED.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, THANKS FOR THE CONSIDERATION.

I'M DELIGHTED TO BE HERE.

UM, I, UH, WOULD LOOK FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITY OF, UH, OF PARTICIPATING A LITTLE BIT IN HELPING MAKE SAN ANTONIO A LITTLE BETTER PLACE TO LIVE BY, UH, GETTING INVOLVED WITH THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, WHICH I THINK IS JUST A, IT, IT'S A NICE LITTLE HOOK IN OUR CITY CODE THAT, UH, PROVIDES A SAFETY VALVE FOR, YOU KNOW, ZONING, UM, FOR, UH, H D R C, FOR OTHER GROUPS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVE GREAT REASONS FOR BEING THERE, HAVE GREAT POLICIES BEHIND THEM, BUT OCCASIONALLY JUST DON'T APPLY TO THE MATTER AT HAND.

SO, UM, I WOULD LOOK FORWARD TO DEALING WITH THE CASES THAT COME BEFORE THEM.

UM, AS AN ATTORNEY, I UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF PROCESS.

UM, I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF FOLLOWING THE GUIDELINES THAT ARE GIVEN.

WE'RE NOT OFF AS SOME, UH, AS THE EXPRESSION GOES ROVING COMMISSION TO DO EQUITY.

WE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE THERE FOR VERY SPECIFIC REASONS, AND THOSE ARE ALL OF COURSE, LISTED IN THE LIST OF VALID REASONS TO, UH, GRANT VARIANCES, TO GRANT SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS, AND SO ON.

UM, ONE OF THE VERY ATTRACTIVE THINGS ABOUT THIS IS THAT I KNOW D S D HAS A TREMENDOUS STAFF TO WORK WITH.

UM, I WOULD HATE TO COME AT THIS, UH, WITHOUT THE ACCESS TO STAFF.

WHILE I HAVEN'T WORKED DIRECTLY WITH D SS D IN THE PAST, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE H D R C PROCEEDINGS, THE ISSUANCE OF COAS.

I'VE WORKED WITH, UH, WITH, UM, OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION IN THE PAST AS A MEMBER OF, WELL, AS A RESIDENT OF THE KING WILLIAMS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS.

UM, EVERY TIME I NEED TO FIX SOMETHING ON THE OUTSIDE, I KNOW HOW THE PROCESS GOES.

I KNOW HOW YOU GET COAS.

UM, I'VE ALSO BEEN A MEMBER OF THE KING WILLIAMS ASSOCIATION BOARD, UM, FOR SEVERAL YEARS AT DIFFERENT TIMES AND DIFFERENT JOBS.

I'VE SERVED ON THE ARCHITECTURAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT PRESENTS, UH, ITS OPINIONS TO H B R C WHEN THEY MAKE DECISIONS, UM, COAS.

SO, UH, SO ANYHOW, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE IN GENERAL.

WHEN I VOTE ON A MATTER, IT, IT, IT WOULD BE MY GOAL AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO, TO BE RESPECTFUL, RESPECTFUL REALLY, OF ALL THE PARTIES INVOLVED, ESPECIALLY THE PEOPLE THAT, THAT HAVE PETITIONED TO COME BEFORE US.

THEY PAY A SIGNIFICANT FILING FEE, AT LEAST THE LAST I SAW.

WE'RE TALKING HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS.

UM, IF WE'RE GONNA RULE AGAINST THEM, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN WHY IN SUCH A WAY THAT AT LEAST THEY KNOW THEY'VE HAD A HEARING.

UM, THANK YOU MR. CONROY.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S IT.

SO THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

UH, YOU'VE HEARD FROM MR. CONROY.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT.

APPRECIATE YOU, YOUR APPLICATION.

UH, MR. CONROY, WE'LL, UH, WE'LL RELEASE YOU TO THE BREAKOUT SESSION, UH, AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL CALL YOU BACK IN WHEN, UH, WHEN WE'RE BACK AFTER DELIBERATION.

OH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.

OUR NEXT A APPLICANT IS ELIZABETH ENGEL ENGLES.

AND, UM, SO SHE'S IN, WE WILL, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PROVIDE HER TIME.

MS. INGLES.

HELLO.

GOOD, GOOD AFTERNOON.

YOU CAN HEAR US? I CAN.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

GOOD AFTERNOON TO YOU ALL.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR APPLICATION.

UM, WE'RE GIVING ALL OF THE APPLICANTS, UH, A, A, AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRIEF THE COMMITTEE FOR TWO MINUTES, UH, TWO MINUTE OPENING STATEMENT.

THEN WE'LL GO AROUND WITH ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

SO, UH, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, UH, YOU HAVE A FLOOR.

UM, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE IN YOUR OPENING STATEMENT, BUT I GUESS I'LL JUST JUMP INTO, DESCRIBE A LITTLE BIT OF MY HISTORY AND WHERE I'M FROM.

UM, I'VE LIVED IN SAN ANTONIO NOW FOR JUST OVER 20 YEARS.

UM, I'M CURRENTLY IN THE WINE INDUSTRY AND WORK WITH, UM, A LOCAL DISTRIBUTOR HERE IN TOWN.

UM, THIS IS MY FIRST ATTEMPT EVER AT WORKING WITH THE LOCAL BOARD.

UM, I JUST HAVE A STRONG CIVIC DUTY, UH, DESIRE AND, UH, APPLIED FOR A COUPLE OF POSITIONS.

AND, UH, THIS ONE WAS VERY APPEALING TO ME, SO I WAS EXCITED TO GET THE, TO GET THE NOTICE THAT I WAS UP FOR THE INTERVIEW.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, MS. INGLES.

AND, AND

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IT'S OKAY.

WE'RE, WE'RE NOT PREPARING PEOPLE FOR A DISSERTATION OR ANYTHING, SO YOU DID FINE.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. INGLES ON HER APPLICATION? OKAY.

UM, VERY BRIEFLY, YOU WERE THE SECOND OF OUR INTERVIEWS, AND SO WE'RE GONNA RELEASE YOU BACK IN THE BREAKOUT SESSION.

WE ARE GONNA DELIBERATE BEFORE WE CALL YOU BACK IN, UH, WITH A DECISION ON, ON THE SEVEN, UH, APPOINTEES.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR STEPPING UP AND APPLYING MS. INGLES, UH, AND WE'LL TALK TO YOU VERY SOON.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

HAVE A GOOD AFTERNOON.

YOU TOO.

OUR NEXT APPLICANT IS JOANNE KAPLAN.

HI.

GOOD AFTERNOON, JOANNE.

HOW ARE YOU? I, YOU'RE MUTED.

JOANNE, YOU'RE ON MUTE.

IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU IN PERSON.

I'VE BEEN WATCHING YOU FOR THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF EVERY DAY, JUST ABOUT ON WITH YOUR COVID UPDATES.

AND, UH, YOU'VE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU, JOANNE.

WELL, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR APPLICATION, UH, TO THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

UM, WE HAVE, UH, 12 APPLICANTS, AND SO YOU'RE NUMBER THREE.

UH, SO AFTER WE, WE HEAR FROM YOU, WE'RE GOING TO RELEASE YOU INTO THE BREAKOUT ROOM, WE'LL DELIBERATE, AND THEN WE'LL BRING YOU BACK IN WITH THE, WITH THE ROSTER, UH, DECISIONS.

BUT, UH, WE'RE PROVIDING EVERYBODY A TWO MINUTE, UH, OPENING STATEMENT.

THEN WE'LL GO AROUND WITH ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMITTEE MIGHT, HAS, MIGHT HAVE.

SO WITHOUT ANY, UH, FURTHER, UH, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

UM, MY NAME IS JOANNE KAPLAN.

I'VE BEEN IN REAL ESTATE FOR OVER 40 YEARS.

I STARTED AS A URBAN PLANNER OF A MASTER'S IN URBAN PLANNING FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN.

UM, I WAS IN THE, I WORKED FOR THE CITY OF NEW YORK IN THE REAL ESTATE DIVISION.

I WROTE REAL ESTATE BOOKS YEAR, THIS IS WHEN I LIVED IN NEW YORK.

UM, I STARTED A NOT-FOR-PROFIT HOUSING CORPORATION AND DEVELOPED AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, THAT I DID FOR SEVEN YEARS.

WHEN I MOVED TO, THEN I SOLD REAL ESTATE FOR 11 YEARS.

I WAS A DIRECTOR ON THE BOARD OF REALTORS IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY, WHICH IS ONE OF THE LARGEST BOARDS IN THE COUNTRY.

UM, WHEN I MOVED HERE, I GOT INVOLVED IN GOVERNMENT THINGS.

I WAS ON THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY OF THE, UH, CITY PLANNING COMMISSION WHERE WE REWROTE THE ZONING CODES FOR TWO YEARS.

THEN I WORKED IN THE APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD FOR SEVEN YEARS AS A JUDGE, AND TWO YEARS ON THE, AS A COMMISSIONER FOR THE, UM, WELL, AGAIN, I THINK OF A HOUSING AUTHORITY, AND NOW I'M LOOKING TO EXPAND THAT.

I, I'M REALLY INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND DEVELOPMENT PRIMARILY.

SO I THOUGHT THIS COMMITTEE WOULD BE A GOOD COMMISSION FOR ME TO BE ON.

IS THAT ALRIGHT? YES.

UH, WELL, THAT, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S YOUR STATEMENT.

THAT THAT IS QUITE ALL RIGHT.

UH, JOANNE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UM, MS. KAPLAN? UH, COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE? THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, MS. KAPLAN, UH, WITH YOUR EXPERIENCE IN, IN REAL ESTATE, YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH SOME OF THE TECHNICAL COMMITTEES, UH, YOU REALIZE THERE'S A LOT OF TIME COMMITMENT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY DIFFICULTIES WITH THAT KIND OF TIME COMMITMENT? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

IN FACT, THAT'S WHAT, I'M RETIRED AND I SOON TO BE A GRANDMOTHER, BUT NOT YET.

I HAVE NOTHING ELSE REALLY, UM, ON MY AGENDA.

I'M NOT WORKING.

SO WHEN I WAS ON THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, I'D PUT ABOUT 20 HOURS A WEEKEND AND, YOU KNOW, I'M ON YOUR COMMITTEE, YOUR BOND COMMITTEE.

UM, SO THAT'S THE ONLY OTHER THING I'M, I'M DOING RIGHT NOW.

MS. KAPLAN.

AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UH, THIS PARTICULAR COMMITTEE, IT LOOKS AT, UH, ALTERNATIVES OR QUESTIONS ABOUT ZONING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

UH, AND A LOT OF TIMES IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO WITH EXCEPTIONS TO ZONING THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE? THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO YOU FEEL QUALIFIED WORKING WITH THAT? YES.

IN FACT, I THINK THAT THAT'S THE THING THAT I THOUGHT WAS MORE EXCITING, BECAUSE IT'S SO EASY TO DO A DEVELOPMENT AS, AS, RIGHT.

BUT IF YOU DO IT, YOU DON'T USUALLY MAKE ENOUGH MONEY.

UM, AND SO BUILDERS ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR EXCEPTIONS OF HOW THEY CAN GET MORE.

AND IN FACT, EVEN IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ONE OF THE THINGS IS THEY'RE LOOKING TO, IS IT, UH, UP ZONE, SOUND ZONE UP ZONE, WHATEVER THE TERM IS, WHERE YOU GET MORE UNITS RATHER THAN LESS UNITS TO CREATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND MAKE IT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE FOR DEVELOPERS.

SO I'M THINKING THAT THERE'LL BE SOME REALLY INTERESTING CHALLENGES ON THIS COMMITTEE, WHICH I'D LIKE TO, WHICH I'D LIKE TO TAKE PART IN.

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COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS. KAPLAN? OKAY.

UH, THANK YOU ALSO, JOANNE, FOR YOUR, UH, SERVICE ON SAHA.

WE APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR APPLICATION TO THE, UH, BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

WE'LL CALL YOU BACK SOON.

UH, OUR NEXT APPLICANT IS CHRIS KELLER.

CHRIS KELLER'S NOT ON THE CALL, SIR.

CHRIS, HE DIDN'T, UH, CALL BACK IN? NO.

UM, AFTER CHRIS KELLER, WE HAVE KEVIN LOVE, UH, AND KEVIN IS APPLYING FOR A REAPPOINTMENT, UH, TO THE, AT LARGE, UM, ALTERNATE POSITION.

KEVIN LOVE ALSO IS NOT ON THE CALL, SIR.

WE'LL MOVE NOW TO LISA LIND.

I SEE YOU, LISA.

UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR APPLICATION, UH, TO THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

UH, WE'RE GIVING ALL OF THE APPLICANTS, UM, A, A MOMENT FOR AN OPENING STATEMENT, A COUPLE MINUTES, TWO MINUTES.

UH, THEN WE MOVE AROUND IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE.

UH, AFTER THIS, WE DO HAVE A DELIBERATION, UH, WITH THE COUNCIL AND EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE BEFORE WE ULTIMATELY MAKE THE APPOINTMENT.

SO, UM, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR .

UM, FIRST I APOLOGIZE, I PROBABLY SOUND LIKE I HAVE A COLD.

I DON'T.

I HAVE C O V I D, UM, AND I HAVE BEEN VACCINATED, SO JUST AN F Y I WITH THAT.

UM, I GUESS I'M ONE OF THE LUCKY BREAKTHROUGH CASES.

UM, SO I, JUST A QUICK BACKGROUND ABOUT ME.

I HAVE BEEN LIVING IN SAN ANTONIO JUST OVER TWO YEARS.

I MOVED HERE FROM NEW ORLEANS.

UM, I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE KING WILLIAM ASSOCIATION.

SO I WORK IN DISTRICT ONE, BUT I LIVE IN DISTRICT THREE.

UM, THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME TO LET YOU KNOW THAT BECAUSE I, I WILL SAY THIS, UM, IF I AM SELECTED, I'M NOT GOING TO STRICTLY BE A MOUTHPIECE FOR THE KING WILLIAM ASSOCIATION.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.

UM, I GUESS THAT'S REALLY IT.

SORRY, .

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO TELL Y'ALL.

UM, LISA, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO PRESCRIPTION OR FORMULA FOR THE OPENING STATEMENTS, JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF.

WE APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH AND DO HOPE YOU, UH, GET BETTER SOON WITH, WITH COVID.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE HAS A QUESTION.

YES, I, YES.

HOW DO YOU SEE YOUR PRIOR EXPERIENCE LIVING IN NEW ORLEANS COMPARED TO WHAT YOU'VE BEEN SEEING, EVEN THOUGH YOU'VE ONLY BEEN HERE FOR TWO YEARS IN SAN ANTONIO? AND HOW DO YOU THINK THAT COULD HELP YOU ON THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT? UM, WELL, OBVIOUSLY ZONING IS BIG EVERYWHERE.

IT'S AN IMPORTANT TOPIC REGARDLESS OF WHAT CITY OR TOWN YOU'RE IN IN NEW ORLEANS, IT, IT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT ISSUE AS WE BATTLE DEVELOPMENT, LACK OF SPACE FOR DEVELOPMENT.

OBVIOUSLY SPACE IS NOT AN ISSUE REALLY FOR SAN ANTONIO.

UM, BUT IT IS FOR NEW ORLEANS, WE ONLY HAVE SO MUCH GROUND TO BUILD BEHIND AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL BEEN BUILT.

UM, SO THERE'S CONSTANT TENSION BETWEEN LAND USE, UM, MAYBE HISTORIC LAND USE.

UM, AND JUST AN ASIDE, I SHOULD HAVE ALSO MENTIONED I HAVE MY MASTERS IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT DEFINITELY FACTORS INTO HOW I VIEW HOW A PROPERTY IS USED, WHAT'S THE MOST, UM, APPROPRIATE USE FOR THAT PROPERTY.

BUT ALSO KEEPING IN MIND PEOPLE NEED TO BE ABLE TO LIVE AND WORK.

UM, AND THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE DECIDED TO CALL SAN ANTONIO HOMES.

SO I THINK THERE'S AN ASPECT OF US BEING ABLE TO FACILITATE THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, BUT WITHIN REASON.

THANK YOU, MS. LIND.

UM, WELL, OUR NEXT APPLICANT IS LILLIAN, ME KNOW IF I PRONOUNCE THAT CORRECTLY.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.

COURAGE.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS. LIND? ALRIGHT, WELL, WE'RE, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, MS. LIN AND THANK YOU.

AND, UH, DRINK SOME WATER.

WE DO HOPE YOU FEEL BETTER.

WE'LL, WE'LL CALL YOU BACK AS SOON AS WE'RE DONE DELIBERATING.

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UM, LILLIAN, I SEE YOU LOGGED ON.

UH, WE, WE DON'T HAVE YOUR CAMERA OR YOUR MICROPHONE YET.

CAN YOU HEAR US? YES, I CAN HEAR YOU.

CAN YOU OKAY, THERE? YES, WE CAN.

UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF I'M PRONOUNCING YOUR, YOUR LAST NAME CORRECTLY, MS. MEESE.

UM, BUT, UH, WE'RE GIVING EVERYONE A TWO MINUTE OPENING STATEMENT AND THEN WE, UH, WE WILL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT COME UP FROM THE COMMITTEE.

AFTER THAT, THE COUNCIL WILL DELIBERATE AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK WITH A, WITH A DECISION ON APPOINTMENT.

SO, UH, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

THANKS SO MUCH, MAYOR.

AND YES, THAT WAS THE CORRECT, UH, PRONUNCIATION OF MY NAME.

I'M LILLIAN MERY.

UM, I AM THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SPECIALIST OVER AT BEXAR COUNTY ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

AND I'M, UM, HONORED FOR THE TIME TO SPEAK WITH Y'ALL TODAY.

UM, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME.

I AM, UM, I LOVE MY COMMUNITY.

I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME, UM, GIVING SERVICE SOME NOTABLE, UM, ACCOMPLISHMENTS OR SERVICE OPPORTUNITIES.

UM, THE MOST NOTABLE RECENTLY WAS WITH THE, UM, MIGRANT OVERFLOW CENTER IN SAN ANTONIO AT THE FREEMAN COLISEUM.

UM, I SPENT TWO MONTHS VOLUNTEERING WITH THE YOUTH THERE, AND, UM, WAS A TRANSLATOR AND ALSO HELPED WITH THE HR SCHEDULING FOR ALL OF THE VOLUNTEERS THAT WERE TAKING CARE OF THE YOUTH FROM, UM, GUATEMALA AND CENTRAL AMERICA.

AND, UM, OTHER NOTABLE COMMUNITY SERVICE.

I, UM, I WAS ON THE CENSUS 2020 JOINT, UM, COMMITTEE BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY TO HELP GET OUT THE COUNT FOR THE CENSUS.

UM, MY ROLE WAS PRIMARILY MARKETING AND ENGAGING WITH ALL OF THE, UM, COMMUNITY LEADERS TO MAKE SURE THEY HAD THE RESOURCES WE NEEDED TO, UM, SET UP OUTREACH EVENTS.

UM, OTHER NOTABLE ACCOMPLISHMENTS IS WITH THE C R C R P MONEY AND ARPA MONEY COMING IN FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

MY JOB AT, UM, THE COUNTY IS TO MARKET THOSE, UM, PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE FUNDING WITH THE ARPA DOLLARS, UM, NOTABLY FOR UTILITY ASSISTANCE, RENTAL ASSISTANCE, AND, UM, WORKFORCE TRAINING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH MS. MEES.

AND, AND, UH, ALSO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, UH, TO THE CITY WITH THE MIGRANT RESOURCE CENTER.

GREATLY APPRECIATED.

UM, ARE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. MEES? OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. MEESE.

WE WILL, UH, WE WILL CALL YOU BACK IN AFTER WE DELIBERATE AND WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOU STEPPING UP, UH, WITH AN APPLICATION, UH, TO THE BOARD.

THANKS SO MUCH.

HAVE A GREAT ONE.

YOU TOO.

OKAY, OUR NEXT, UM, APPLICANT IS LORI TIPS.

HI.

GOOD AFTERNOON, LORI.

UH, WE SEE YOU.

I THINK YOU'RE MUTED.

UM, AND, UH, YOU ARE, UM, WE, WE HAVE SEVERAL APPLICANTS.

WE'RE GIVING EVERYONE, UH, A TWO MINUTE OPENING STATEMENT, UH, BEFORE WE GO AROUND WITH ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMITTEE MIGHT HAVE.

UH, AFTER THAT WE'LL BE DELIBERATING AN EXECUTIVE SESSION BEFORE WE, UH, COME OUT WITH OUR APPOINTMENTS.

SO, UH, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

UM, MY NAME IS LORI TIPS.

I THINK IT'S COMING UP AS HERE.

I'M NOT SURE IF I WRONG OR OR JUST WRONG.

I ASKED BY CLAYTON PERRY TO ON THE SAN ANTONIO ZONING BOARD.

UH, YES, MS. SIPS, YOU WERE, THERE WAS SOME LAG IN YOUR, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S YOUR VIDEO OR AUDIO, BUT, UH, IF YOU COULD TURN OFF YOUR VIDEO FOR RIGHT NOW WHILE YOU'RE SPEAKING.

WE WON'T GET ANY, I DON'T THINK WE'LL GET ANY AUDIO LAG.

WE DON'T WANNA MISS, UH, YOUR STATEMENT THOUGH.

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? HEAR YOU'RE, YES.

UM, MY NAME IS LORI TIPS.

IT'S SPELLED WRONG ON THE SCREEN.

UM, I WAS ASKED BY CLAYTON PERRY TO APPLY TO SERVE ON THIS COUNCIL.

WELL, ON THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

UM, I'M CURRENTLY SERVING ON THE OAK PARK NORTHWOOD BOARD, AND RIGHT NOW I'M TREASURER.

I'VE BEEN THE SECRETARY AND, UH, VICE PRESIDENT AND OTHER POSITIONS THERE.

SO WE'VE DEALT WITH ZONING JUST WITHIN THAT AREA.

UM, IN 2019, I SERVED, UM, FOR COUNCIL 10 ON THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, ECONOMIC IMPACT TASK FORCE, UM, AND ATTENDED MEETINGS UP UNTIL, UM, COVID, KIND OF SQUELCHED THOSE.

AND, UM, I AM

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WILLING TO SERVE.

I KNOW THAT IT'S, UM, A FILL IN FOR, UM, THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN APPOINTED, BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, PEOPLE ARE NEEDED ON A REGULAR BASIS TO FILL.

UM, AND I GUESS THAT'S IT.

I, I'M, I'M WILLING TO SERVE AND I THINK I KNOW WHAT THE ZONING COMMISSION WILL REQUIRE OF ME.

UH, MS. TIPS.

UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. TIPS ON THE, ON THE APPLICATION? I, OKAY.

WELL, UH, LORI, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, UH, PUTTING IN YOUR APPLICATION.

WE, WE SHOULD BE DONE DELIBERATING, UH, WITHOUT TOO MUCH, UM, TIME.

SO, UM, WE APPRECIATE IT.

WE'LL BRING YOU BACK IN, UH, AS WE MAKE OUR, OUR DECISIONS ON THE ROSTER.

THANK, THANKS SO MUCH, MS. TIPS.

OUR, OUR NEXT APPLICANT IS JESSE VAZQUEZ.

MR. VASQUEZ, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, SIR.

VERY GOOD.

UH, DOES, DOES THAT, UH, WHAT WAS IT, A TWO MINUTE, UH, STATEMENT.

WHAT, WHAT'S THE LENGTH? YES.

UH, MR. VASQUEZ, WE, I THINK WE'VE GOT YOU ON A CALL IN.

SO WE'RE GIVING ALL OF THE APPLICANTS A TWO MINUTE OPENING STATEMENT, AND THEN WE GO AROUND WITH ANY QUESTIONS.

SO, UH, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

OKAY, GOOD.

YES, SIR.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA, I WANNA THANK, UH, THE, THE MEMBERS OF THE GOVERNANCE BOARD THAT ARE, ARE, UH, UH, GOING TO BE INTERVIEWING ME.

UH, AND, UH, I BELIEVE I'M, UH, I SHOULD BE ONE OF THE SEVEN, UH, APPLICANTS TO BE SELECTED.

AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE I JUST FINISHED A, UH, A, A, A SERIES OF, UH, TWO YEAR, UH, TERMS ON THE BARE APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD.

AND I AM, UH, VERY THOROUGHLY FAMILIAR, UH, WITH, UH, THE, THE DUTIES AND FUNCTIONS OF THE QUASI-JUDICIAL BOARD, SUCH AS THE ONE THAT I'M HOPING TO BE APPOINTED TO.

AND, UH, I, I AM, UH, A GUY THAT IS A TEAM PLAYER, BUT ALSO I HAVE SERVED IN, IN MULTIPLE LEADERSHIP POSITIONS FROM A SMALL TO, TO RATHER SUBSTANTIAL SIZE, UH, ORGANIZATIONS.

AND SO FOR THAT, UH, REASON, I, I AM OFFERING MY, UH, MY SERVICES.

UH, I I PUT UP, UH, OVER 20 YEARS IN THE MILITARY.

I PUT UP COMPOSITE, UH, 12 YEARS WITH THE APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD, UH, HERE IN BEXAR COUNTY.

AND NOW I WOULD LIKE TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF, UH, SAN ANTONIO ON, ON, ON THE BOARD FOR, UH, IAN, AN ADJUSTMENT.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY STATEMENT, SIR.

UM, MR. VASQUEZ, UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. VASQUEZ FROM THE COMMITTEE? LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE NO QUESTIONS.

MR. VASQUEZ, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SUBMITTING YOUR APPLICATION.

WE WILL BE DELIBERATING IN EXECUTIVE SESSION SHORTLY, UH, BEFORE WE COME OUT WITH OUR DECISIONS ON THE ROSTER.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

I UNDERSTAND, SIR.

BYE-BYE.

THANK YOU, MR. VAZQUEZ.

UM, ALRIGHT.

OUR NEXT APPLICANT IS ROOSEVELT WHITEHEAD.

MR. WHITEHEAD'S NOT ON THE CALL.

HE'S NOT LOGGED BACK IN? NO.

UM, AFTER MR. WHITEHEAD, WE HAVE TAMMY WINCOTT.

MS. WINCOTT, I SEE YOU LOGGED IN.

UH, WE DON'T YET HAVE YOUR, UH, CAMERA OR AUDIO FEED.

YOU CAN HEAR ME OUT, CORRECT? I CAN HEAR YOU.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT MUFFLED.

UH, CAN YOU TRY THAT AGAIN? OKAY.

I WAS SCOOTING THE OTHER ROOM.

I CAN HEAR YOU NOW.

IT IS JUST A LITTLE BIT QUIET, THAT'S ALL.

UM, OKAY, GIMME A SECOND.

IT'S TRYING TO DO SOMETHING HERE.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE YOUR VIDEO, WHICH IS NOT, UH, ENTIRELY NECESSARY.

IF, IF IT'S NOT WORKING, IT WAS WORKING FINE.

SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED WHEN IT SWITCHED OVER.

IF, UH, THERE SHOULD BE A BUTTON IN THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN THAT SAYS START VIDEO, IF YOU JUST HIT THAT.

WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO, I'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH IT BEFORE, SO, UM, AS I SAID, EVERYTHING WAS WORKING JUST FINE.

I BELIEVE I CAN HEAR HER MARE, IF SHE CAN JUST PROCEED

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VERBALLY.

YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

IF THAT'S NOT WORKING OUT, UH, MS. WINCOTT, IT'S FINE.

WE CAN, WE CAN HEAR YOU WELL.

SO, UH, WE'RE PROVIDING ALL THE APPLICANTS, UH, EACH A TWO MINUTE OPENING STATEMENT.

UH, AND THEN WE'LL GO AROUND THE COMMITTEE WITH ANY QUESTIONS THAT, THAT, UH, THE MEMBERS MIGHT HAVE.

SO, UH, IF YOU'D LIKE, GO AHEAD AND TAKE YOUR, UH, YOUR, TAKE THE FLOOR FOR YOUR OPENING STATEMENT AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.

MS. WINCOTT, CAN YOU HEAR ME? ALRIGHT.

WE MUST BE HAVING SOME KIND OF CONNECTION ISSUE WITH MS. WINCOTT.

UH, JOHN, MAYBE WE CAN LOG HER OUT AND LOG HER BACK IN.

AND, UH, IN THE MEANTIME, WE CAN TAKE OUR LAST APPLICANT.

ALL RIGHT, WHY DON'T WE DO THAT? OKAY.

UM, LET'S BRING, LET'S BRING JESSE ZUNIGA BACK IN.

ALL RIGHT, MR. ZUNIGA, CAN YOU HEAR US? I MR. ZUNIGA, CAN, CAN YOU HEAR US? UH, WE HAVE YOUR, WE HAVE YOU LOGGED IN.

WE DON'T SEE YOU OR HEAR YOU AT THIS POINT.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, I CAN.

UM, UH, IS YOUR VIDEO WORKING? NO, IT'S SOMEBODY ELSE'S, UH, WHEN I WAS, UH, OKAY.

THAT, THAT'S FINE.

WE, WE CAN HEAR YOU JUST FINE.

SO, UH, WE'RE GIVING ALL THE APPLICANTS A TWO MINUTE OPENING STATEMENT THAT WE'LL GO AROUND WITH ANY QUESTIONS.

UH, AFTER THAT WE'LL DELIBERATE, UH, AND THEN BRING YOU BACK OUT AFTER WE MAKE OUR DECISIONS ON THE ROSTER.

SO YOU HAVE, UH, THE FLOOR, UH, FOR A TWO MINUTE OPENING STATEMENT.

MY NAME IS JESSE ZUNIGA.

UH, I APPLIED FOR THIS, UH, BOARD.

YOU JUST MUTED YOURSELF.

UH, MR. ZUNIGA, WE DON'T HEAR YOU.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, I CAN HEAR YOU NOW.

YEAH, I APPLIED FOR THIS BOARD BECAUSE IT'S AN IMPORTANT BOARD.

IT'S A CONSTITU, YOUR JUDICIARY, UH, BOARD, AND THE FINAL, UH, DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE ON THE BOARD, UH, CAN'T BE APPEALED OR IT CAN GO TO COURT, OR THEY CAN WAIVE FOR A YEAR TO COME BACK.

I HAVE THE COAT KNOWLEDGE, THE TIME AND ENERGY THAT YOU HAVE TO SPEND.

UH, AND I HAVE, I HAVE THE EXPERIENCE AND I HAD BEEN THERE 13 YEARS BEFORE, UH, TO SQUARE.

AND THAT'S MY TWO MINUTES, I GUESS.

UH, MR. ZUNIGA, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ZUNIGA ON HIS APPLICATION? OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR APPLICATION, MR. ZUNIGA, AND FOR YOUR TIME.

UH, WE'LL DELIBERATE BEFORE MAKING OUR, UH, FINAL DECISION, UH, PUBLIC.

SO, UH, WE'LL CALL YOU BACK, UH, SHORTLY.

THANKS SO MUCH.

ALRIGHT, LET'S, LET'S TRY TO GO BACK NOW TO T UH, TAMMY WINCOTT.

UM, AND SHE'LL BE OUR LAST APPLICANT.

MAYOR, I HAVE, I HAVE MS. WINCOTT ON THE PHONE.

I'M GONNA HAVE HER CALL JOHN AND DO THE SAME THING WE DID.

MR. VASQUEZ.

JUST WANNA GIVE THIS ONE SECOND, OR MR. VASQUEZ WE ALREADY HEARD FROM? NO, I HAVE TAMMY WINAN ON THE PHONE RIGHT NOW.

SHE'S NOT ABLE TO GET BACK IN THAT.

YOU HEAR US? TAMMY, YOU'RE, UH, YOUR MIC IS SHOWING AS ON, SO YOU, ARE YOU ON A BLUETOOTH OR SOMETHING? IF YOU CAN TAKE OUT YOUR BLUETOOTH AND JUST USE WHATEVER SPEAKER YOU HAVE, SEE IF THAT WORKS.

THAT'S FINE.

WE'LL JUST TAKE HER ON THE PHONE.

CAN YOU CALL HER, UM, MS. WINCOTT HAS LOGGED BACK IN.

TAMMY, CAN

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HEY, THIS, THIS, THIS IS JOHN.

IF YOU COULD ASK HER TO PICK UP THE PHONE, I THINK I COULD PATCH HER IN THAT WAY.

TAMMY, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, IF YOU, THAT'S ME CALLING YOU ON THE OTHER LINE.

TAMMY, UH, JOHN PARI FROM THE CITY IS TRYING TO CALL YOU SO WE CAN GET YOUR AUDIO CONNECTION THROUGH THE PHONE.

IF YOU CAN PICK UP THE PHONE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU, UH, THROUGH THAT.

MAYOR, I HAVE TAMMY, SHE'S TRYING TO TURN OFF HER AUDIO ON HER COMPUTER, SO JUST GIMME ONE SECOND.

MAKE IT, UH, THERE'S A CONFLICT THAT THEY'RE JUST NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO MAKE THE MEETING.

UM, CAN YOU, CAN YOU HEAR US NOW? OKAY, GOOD TO GO, SIR.

HERE, HERE'S TAMMY.

OKAY, THANK YOU TAMMY.

UM, WE'RE GIVING EVERYBODY A TWO MINUTE OPENING STATEMENT AND WE GO AROUND WITH ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMITTEE MIGHT HAVE.

SO, UM, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I'M GLAD WE'RE THAT YOU'RE BACK, BUT YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

IF YOU'LL BEAR WITH ME, BECAUSE THERE'S A BIT OF AN ECHO IN THE BACKGROUND, SINCE THIS IS ALL ON SPEAKER HERE.

UH, MY NAME IS TAMMY AUGHT.

I AM A SOLO PRACTITIONER ATTORNEY HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.

I'VE BEEN PRACTICING FOR 14 YEARS.

UH, I PRACTICED IN THE AREA OF PROBATE AND BANKRUPTCY LAW.

I USED TO DO FAMILY LAW PRIOR TO BECOMING AN ATTORNEY.

I OWNED MY OWN ROOFING COMPANY, WHICH I RAN IN AUSTIN, TEXAS.

AND PRIOR TO OWNING THE COMPANY, I DID ROOFING AND I WAS A DRYWALL AND FRAMER.

UM, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS OF PULLING BUILDING PERMITS AND OBVIOUSLY WITH ZONING ISSUES.

UM, I'VE ALSO REPRESENTED CLIENTS IN ZONING MATTERS.

SO I AM FAMILIAR WITH ZONING VARIANCES AND WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR ZONING FOR A VARIANCE, AND THE IMPORTANCE OF KEEPING THINGS CONSISTENT AS WELL AS TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE NEEDS OF THE PERSON OR THE COMPANY APPLYING FOR THE VARIANCE.

UM, I'M ALSO A VETERAN.

I WASN'T AWARE UNTIL A LITTLE BIT AGO ABOUT THE TWO MINUTE STATEMENT.

I APOLOGIZE.

I HAVE JUST RECENTLY BEEN, UH, TOLD I THE S A P CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD AS WELL.

I HAD APPLIED FOR THAT BOARD AT THE SAME TIME AS THIS BOARD.

I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THERE'S CONFLICT SHOULD I BE CHOSEN FOR THIS ONE AS WELL? THERE IS NOT A PROBLEM AS FAR AS MY PRACTICE GOES, SO I DO JUST NEED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, BECAUSE AT THE TIME OF THE APPLICATION, I DID NOT ON THE APPLICATION, I HAD MENTIONED THAT I WAS NOT ON ANY OTHER BOARD, AND THAT WAS TRUE AT THE TIME OF THE APPLICATION.

HOWEVER, JUST THIS WEEK I WAS INFORMED OF THE OTHER.

UM, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE PANEL, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW, UM, ARE THE AT LARGE MEMBERS CHOSEN TO SIT IN? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, MS. WINCOTT, UH, WE HAVE MICHAEL SHANNON HERE FROM D S D WHO, WHO CAN MAYBE DESCRIBE THAT PROCESS OF HOW THE, UM, ALTERNATES ARE, ARE CHOSEN TO MAKE QUORUM.

MIKE, CAN YOU, CAN YOU DESCRIBE THAT? SURE.

UH, MAYOR, UH, GOOD, GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.

UM, WELL, WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE, UH, THE DISTRICT APPOINTMENTS.

WE HAVE SOME AT LARGE APPOINTMENTS, UM, AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, ALTERNATES.

UH, ALTERNATES ARE USED WHEN WE KNOW MY STAFF AND I KNOW AS WE PREP FOR A MEETING, UM, IF WE KNOW, UH, ONE OF THE PRIMARY, UM, MEMBERS CAN'T

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SO WE UTILIZE THE ALTERNATES, UH, TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE FORUMS. IT'S, IT IS CRITICAL TO HAVE QUORUM, UH, FOR THE, WE HAVE A LOT OF CASES, OF COURSE.

UH, SO THERE'S A LOT OF COORDINATION FOR THOSE.

SO THE ALTERNATES ARE, UH, ARE AGREEING TO BE READY, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN NEEDED.

AND, UH, WE COORDINATE THAT WEEKLY, UH, WITH THEM.

UM, THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING.

UM, AND IS THERE ANY, DO WE DO ANY SIT DOWN TRAINING WITH YOU BEFOREHAND OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? ABSOLUTELY.

UH, THAT'S A, UH, GREAT QUESTION.

WE GET A LOT OF OUR, UH, NEW, UH, BOARD MEMBERS ON ANY OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS GET A LOT OF TRAINING, UH, BEFORE THEIR FIRST MEETING.

SO, UH, MY STAFF AND I, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UH, WILL GIVE YOU A, A REAL GOOD RUNDOWN.

AND THEN MY STAFF IS THERE, UH, FOR ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS TO HELP, UH, ANSWER QUESTIONS, UM, AS, AS YOU SERVE THE BOARD, THAT, THAT'S OUR ROLE IN THE PROCESS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. WINCOTT.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. WINCOTT? OKAY.

WELL, WE APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR, UH, STEPPING UP FOR AND, AND APPLYING TO THE BOARD, MS. WINCOTT.

WE'RE GONNA DELIBERATE NOW IN EXECUTIVE SESSION BEFORE WE, UH, COME OUT IN PUBLIC TO MAKE OUR, OUR FINAL APPOINTMENT.

VERY WELL.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.

LET US NOW, UM, GO INTO OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION TO TALK ABOUT THE APPLICANT'S.

AND JUST TO BE CLEAR WHAT I'M SAYING, WE'RE MAKING THE FINAL APPOINTMENT, UM, THE, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION ON THE ROSTER THAT WILL BE SENT UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, FOR APPROVAL ON THE FIRST AVAILABLE AGENDA.

UM, SO LET,

[EXECUTIVE SESSION At any time during the meeting, the Governance Committee may recess into executive session by videoconference to consult with the City Attorney's Office (Texas Government Code Section 551.071) and deliberate or discuss any of the following:]

THE TIME IS NOW 1:04 PM ON AUGUST 27TH, 2021.

THIS, THIS GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE OF THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW MEET IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND TO DELIBERATE TO DISCUSS LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO THE FOLLOWING, DISCUSS PERSONNEL MATTERS RELATED TO THE REVIEW OF APPLICATIONS TO THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.074 PERSONNEL AND TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY.

AND I BELIEVE, UH, DO WE HAVE A SEPARATE LINK OR ARE WE JUST STAYING ON HERE? THINK I JUST GOT THE ANSWER? YEP.

YOU HAVE A BREAKOUT ROOM.

THE TIME IS NOW 1:21 PM ON AUGUST 27TH, 2021.

AND THE GOVERNANCE COUNCIL COMMITTEE WILL NOW RECONVENE AN OPEN SESSION.

NO OFFICIAL ACTION WAS TAKEN IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

UH, BEFORE I TURN IT OVER FOR A MOTION, UM, I WANT TO THANK AGAIN ALL THE APPLICANTS TO THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AT LARGE ALTERNATE POSITIONS.

OBVIOUSLY, WE HAD MORE APPLICANTS THAN WE HAVE POSITIONS, WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME TREMENDOUS APPLICANTS HERE, UH, WHO ARE WILLING TO GIVE THEIR TIME IN SERVICE TO THE CITY, WHICH WE APPRECIATE.

THE GOOD NEWS IS, UH, WE HAVE YOUR APPLICATIONS ON FILE AND WE HAVE AN ABUNDANCE OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE, UH, CAN BEGIN REACHING OUT TO YOU FOR.

UH, AND WE DO HOPE THAT YOUR SPIRIT OF SERVICE WILL, UH, CONTINUE ON, UH, IN OTHER CAPACITIES IF YOU'RE NOT SELECTED TO THIS CURRENT, UM, POSITION.

BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU TO ALL OF OUR APPLICANTS WHO MADE TIME TO BE HERE, UH, AND FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE.

SO LET ME TURN IT OVER TO COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, ROJA GARCIA FOR A MOTION ON OUR APPOINTEES.

I MOVE THAT WE SEND FORTH THE FOLLOWING SEVEN INDIVIDUALS TO FULL CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION FOR SEVEN AT LARGE ALTERNATE POSITIONS TO THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

THE INDIVIDUALS ARE AS FOLLOWS.

AND WE'LL SERVE A REMAINDER OF AN EXPIRED TERM FOR OFFICE ENDING IN MAY 31ST, 2020 THIRD, PATRICK CONROY, ELIZABETH LES, JOANNE KAPLAN, LISA LIND, LILLIAN MEESE, JESSE VASQUEZ, AND JESSE ZUNIGA.

OKAY, UH, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

WAS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND.