* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:16] FERNANDEZ FERNANDEZ, AKI, FISH. OKAY. YES. GIS? YEAH. OKAY. QUEZ VELASQUEZ. OKAY. OLA. CARPENTER. CARPENTER. OKAY. GROUP. GROUP. OKAY. CARPENTER. OKAY. LA I MANUFAC BEING RECORDED IN SPANISH. SPANISH. INTERPRET INTERPRETER. INTERPRETER. AND DO THOSE [00:05:14] MONUMENT HISTORIC DISTRICT NEIGHBORS. MY COMMENTS ARE FOR ITEM THREE AT FIVE 15 NORTH MONUMENTAL. WE GENERALLY SUPPORT STAFF THAT THIS BUILDING'S MASSING SCALE ROUTE SEPARATE AS APPROPRIATE FOR CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL. WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE APPLICANT'S APPLICATION FOR APPROVAL AND RECOMMEND AT THAT TIME. MR. CHAIRMAN, YOUR PERMISSION ALSO, CARPENTER. AYE. AYE. YOUR HONOR, CONSENT AGENDA AND YOUR ADDRESS IS 15 MIAMI. MIAMI FIVE. NORTH GONNA SIT DOWN [00:19:35] MUCH [00:19:40] ON, ON [00:20:05] THIS SHOWS YOU THE ONE OF THOSE STUDIES S BOTH CONSTRUCTION OF THE ITSELF, LONGER CONSTRUCTION ARE PART TO THERE AS WELL. THE NEXT, NEXT VIEW, MODERN MODERN FIREPLACE THERE, UM, WOOD FLOORS AND BACK TO THE FIFTIES. THE NEXT. YEAH, KEEP GOING TO A FEW MORE. UM, THAT'S THE WARRANTY. HERE'S THE, YEAH, WE CAN GO TO THAT NEXT. SORRY. UM, HERE'S THE, UH, THE NEWSPAPER. THIS ONE WAS A LITTLE, THE HEADLINE IS SIGNIFICANCE. DO YOU HAVE YOUR ARTICLE, THOSE INCLUDED IN THE, A HISTORIC HOME CLOSE? IT IS SMALL. IT IS, [00:26:44] AND IT LOOKS AS SUCH. UM, WE GO THROUGH COUPLE MORE. UM, ONE MORE. UM, AND HERE THIS IS JUST ANRP FROM THAT, UH, EXPORT. UM, SKIPPING AHEAD I GUESS. YEAH, MAYBE JUST, SO HERE'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT HERE. YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE STONE INSIDE THE MAIN HOUSE. UH, LOTS OF MORTAR THERE, SMOOTH STONE ELECTRICAL CAR. YOU STILL A LITTLE, LITTLE OLDER THAN WAS DONE TODAY. YOU COMPARE THAT TO THE HOUSE THAT WAS BUILT IN 18 SLIDES. SHOW THAT, UH, UH, THE HOUSE THAT IS HISTORIC ON THE PROPERTY JUST FOR MAIN STRUCTURE TOWARDS THE END THERE. UM, YOU CAN SEE [00:34:51] [00:44:29] ONE [00:44:29] MORE QUESTION. [00:45:43] I'M SORRY, I'M GETTING USED TO BEING BACK IN PERSON. SORRY FOR THE BREAK OF ORDER. UM, I GUESS SPECIFIC TO THE MENTION OF THE PEOPLE OWNING THE PROPERTIES, ARE YOU SUSTAIN THE PROPERTY OR, OR WHEREVER PHYSICALLY THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY BUILDING? BESIDES OF THE OLD PROPERTY IN GENERAL, MR. CHAIR, UH, TO STAFF, IT WAS VERY EFFORT TO, UH, SEPARATE TWO AND, UH, TO ADDRESS, UH, THE, UH, DESIGNATION A AND B THAT, UH, THE BUILDING IN QUESTION DOES NOT HAVE A CLEAR, CLEAR EVIDENCE AND THE OTHER BUILDING. SO YEAH, THIS HOUSE PRESENTATION, THE DOCUMENTS IN, ON THIS PAGE, THIS PAGE SHOWS TWO DIFFERENT STRUCTURES. IT SHOWS THAT STRUCTURE. THEN YOU FLIP ON ANOTHER STRUCTURE. KEEP GOING THAT KEEP GOING. I'M LOOKING AT, I'M LOOKING AT WHAT'S ON, ON THE, THAT'S PROVIDED TO, THERE'S, ON THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION, THE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE PROVIDED TO SHOWN HAS SOME PARTICULAR DETAILS. WHAT STRUCTURAL THAT, THAT ARE OR HEADERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT? IT'S ALONG WITH THE 82. YEAH, SO THIS IS A SEPARATE PROPERTY. THIS WAS NOT REALLY, I THINK PERHAPS THE, THE, UH, THE OWNER HAS HAS, UH, CONTRAST TO DO WITH RESPECT TO THE YEARS ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO IS, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ENOUGH INFORMATION [00:50:11] REVIEW OF THE BUILDING LOOKING AT IT, UM, HOLISTICALLY AND COMMISSIONER CARPENTER'S EXPERIENCE SIMILAR STRUCTURES HAVE BEEN BUILT OVER TIME. THIS IS COMMISSIONER. I I AGREE. WE'VE DESIGNATION. NO, I MEAN AS YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST DEVELOPMENT SITE, INCLUDING DEMOTION, REMOVE THE PROPERTY. UM, THAT WOULD FOLLOW COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I WOULD JUST, UH, EVEN FURTHER ADVANCES CONCEPT OR, OR THE OF THE SCALES WITH RESPECT TO HOW THE, HOW THE HISTORY OF IS OVER THIS BUILDING. NEL, TO CLARIFY, THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE PIECES OF PROPERTY, CORRECT? THE ONE WITH IS TO THE, I AM ASKING. [00:55:34] I OBVIOUSLY AM, I DON'T THINK THE, I DON'T THINK, UM, THE MOTION FOR FISH. I QUE A CARPENTER BOW, OCEAN. SHE CARRIES CORRECTION. MOTION CORRECTION MOTION IS NOT CARRY. IT HAS NO APPROVAL, SO IT IS APPROVED. OKAY. WE'LL MOVE FORWARD TO COUNSEL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPROPRIATENESS TO CONSTRUCT A FOUR FOOT TALL. [01:00:20] THIS IS MY, IF YOU ARE, I HAVE A VOICEMAIL LETTER. UM, SO AS HAND, UM, THIS IS, THIS WAS READING THE LETTER TO YOUR COMMISSIONERS ASSOCIATION, [01:06:08] ANYTHING, UM, OKAY. AND, UM, COULD IT BE THAT MAYBE, I DUNNO, ON FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, MAYBE SOMETHING THAT IF THE NEIGHBOR WERE TO DECIDE TO OWN PROPERTY LINE? YES. UM, I, I MEAN THIS, THIS SIDEBAR IN SITUATION I, I UNDERSTAND IS PRETTY CONSISTENT ABOUT OPPOSING THE INTERACTION LOCK BUT DON'T HAVE THEM, UH, UM, LARGELY ESTABLISHED. I SUPPORT ASSOCIATIONS. JUST TO CLARIFY, IT WOULD BE SUBMISSION. MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS COMMISSIONER FISH. I DID NOT INAPPROPRIATE. IT SEEMS THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR A GOOD PRESIDENT OR A BAD PRESIDENT, THE STANDARD IS, IS, UH, INTO A RIGHT, YOU KNOW, THE PICTURE THAT IS SHOWN ACROSS THE STREET. IT SEEMS TO SET A COMMUNITY UP FOR THE, THE OKAY WITH ALL THE OTHER POINTS. BUT I WOULD THINK THAT THE [01:10:01] ENCLOSURE OF THE GATE WOULD BE IMPORTANT. PERHAPS ITS NOT, UH, SET THE LEAST, UH, INTRUSIVE STANDARD. WHAT WHAT COMES FORWARD FROM TO US IS CASE BY CASE. ARE THERE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YES, MA'AM. A MOTION TO APPROVE STIPULA PLEASE. STIPULA MOTION STIPULATION. SORRY, TWO AND THREE. I'LL SECOND A MOTION A SECOND. CAN YOU DISCUSS PLEASE? NO. JAMES? YES. A YEAH. QUE QUE A CARPENTER. CARPENTER, AYE. AYE. THAT'S HER. AYE. 21. HE LOCATED WITHIN THE HILL HISTORIC DISTRICT FOLLOW A THROUGH Q, A THROUGH R WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS. ONE THAT THE FRONT SETBACK BE EQUAL TO OR GREATER THAN THAT THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE AT SIX 15 MONTHS AND THE BILL VERIFICATION BE REQUIRED PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF THE C O A TWO. THAT GORDON AND BATTEN SIDING FEATURE A SMOOTH FINISH DOORS THAT ARE 12 INCHES WIDE AND PATENTS THAT ARE ONE AND A HALF INCH WIDE. AND WITH ADDITIONALLY STAFFER CONDENSED STEAM METAL ROOF FEATURE SMOOTH PANELS THAT ARE 18 TO 21 INCHES IN WIDTH SINKS THAT ARE ONE TO TWO INCHES IN HEIGHT. A STANDARD GUIDE FINISH IN A CRIMPED REACH. SCENE THREE OF THE PROPOSED CORRUGATED STEEL SIDING. STEEL FOLLOWS THE CEDAR SIDING, ELIMINATE THAT MATERIAL THAT ARE CONSISTENT. THE GUIDELINES WITHIN FOR THE PROPOSED WINDOWS PROPOSED THE APPLICABLE CITATIONS. THE GRASS, WOOD LANDSCAPE GREEN SPACES IS INSTALLED ON THE RIGHT WASTE STRIP BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE ROAD. THERE'S A PROPOSED FENCE TURN AND DRIVEWAY AND FEATURE DRIVEWAY GATE THAT IS SET BACK BEHIND THE FRONT FACADE OF THE NEW CONSTRUCTION. THEN ALL MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT IS SCREENED [01:15:01] FROM FUTURE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY. UH, THERE'S ALSO, UH, TWO CASE COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO A FOUNDATION SETBACK INSPECTION AND STANDING METAL ROOF INSPECTION. MR. , ARE YOU THERE? GOOD AFTERNOON. HELLO. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. HELLO. GOOD. ALRIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS, I'M THE, UH, ARCHITECT OF PROJECT. UM, WE PROPOSED THIS PROJECT AT THE LAST FOR THE COURT INCI THROUGH THE DISCUSSION. UM, I WAS CONCERNED WITH THE COURT, UH, METAL STUDY PROFILE. UM, WE DID, UM, TAKE SOME FEEDBACK AND, UH, WE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, UH, A HORIZONTAL PROFILE. THIS IS NOT CORIAN METAL. THIS IS ACTUALLY A QUESTION AWAY. UM, SPECIFICALLY IT, IT RESEMBLES THE TRADITIONAL 117, UH, PROFILE. UM, DO YOU BELIEVE THE, THE SHADOW LATCH CREATED BY THIS, UM, UM, HORIZONTAL APPLICATION OF CORIN WILL, WILL RESEMBLE, UM, A WOOD WALL THAT IS PAINTED COLOR RUST. UM, IT WAS ALSO SUGGESTED DURING D R C THAT MR. TOS WERE LIKELY A BIT TOO SLENDER, UH, FOR THE PORTION. SO WE DID LOOK AT THAT AND, AND TRY TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF, UM, YOU PULL UP OUR, OUR RENDERING OR ATION PLEASE. UM, SO WE DID, WE DID LOOK AT BEEFING UP THOSE COLUMNS AND ADDING A BASE DETAIL, YOU KNOW, ARE WORDS WE'RE, WE'RE OF THE BELIEF THAT THE NEW BASE DETAIL CAPITAL DETAILS STEAL. THERE ARE MODERN INTERPRETATION OF, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ONE BY SIX TRIM THAT IS REQUESTED ON WOOD COLUMNS. UM, IT DID UP THE PALMS TO 64 TUBES, UM, SO THAT THE, THE SLANDEROUS CONCERNED, UM, TRY TO ALLEVIATE THAT. UH, ANOTHER REGARDING THE FENESTRATION PATTERNS, WE DID HAVE ONE LARGE PICTURE WINDOW OF THE PIECE DESIGN. SO THIS IS OUR, UM, THIS IS OUR CURRENT DESIGN, UM, SIDE BY SIDE WITH THE, UM, THREE 19 BURLESON PROPERTY THAT WAS REFERENCED IN THE LAST PRESENTATION. THIS IS THE ORIGINAL DESIGN FROM THE LAST HEARING YOU WERE CLOSING ONE LARGE PICTURE WINDOW THAT HE, UH, BUMPED OUT. UM, AND THE ALTERNATE IS TO REVERT BACK TO YOU. IT'S NOT, NOT WHAT WE WANT TO DO. UM, THE LASTLY, YOU, YOU COULD LOOK AT THE DETAIL AND, UH, WE DO HAVE, WE DO HAVE SOME DETAILS, UM, SHOWING THE, THE GUT AND THE OVERHEAD THAT JUST UNDER ELABORATES HOW WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE OUR, I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. [01:20:57] THANK, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO FLIP QUICKLY THROUGH, UM, SOME HIGHLIGHTS IN RY START AT THE TOP HIGHLIGHTS. LET'S SEE. THE FIRST HIGHLIGHT HERE IS THE RELATIONSHIP IS SOLID AND BOARD, RIGHT? SO REGARDING OUR FENESTRATION PATTERN LINES, UM, THAT WE'RE NOT IN AGREEANCE WITH, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS SHOWS THAT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A COMPONENT OF THE DRY LINE, UH, ESPECIALLY, UH, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE DIAGRAMS THAT WE PROVIDE, UM, STRONG WINDOWS COMPARED TO ONE BIG PICTURE WINDOW. UM, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, WHICH ARE TWO CASES ON THE SIDE, ONE FIST IN THE MIDDLE, WHICH AROSE OUT OF THE CONVERSATION. YOU THE NEXT ONE PLEASE. UM, HERE, UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SCALE FOUR OF NEW STRUCTURES, UH, SPECIFICALLY THE ONE I CIRCLED AND READ, UM, SHOWS A VERY CONTEMPORARY LOOKING STRUCTURE, UM, WITH, GRANTED, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THIS IS, IS LOCATED, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU GOT A S STUCCO BRAID, YOU KNOW, UH, WOOD SIDE, UH, METAL GUARDRAIL. UM, SO AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE GUIDELINES THEMSELVES TO DRAW INSPIRATION OF WHAT WE MAY PROPOSE AS COMPATIBLE DESIGN. UM, PRESS ONE PLEASE. THIS TOUCHES BASED ON THE, UM, FOUR 10 COMMENT. UM, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE FOCUSING ON, UM, GUIDELINES, NEW MATERIALS. ITEM TWO, THE ALTERNATIVE USE OF THE TRADITIONAL MATERIALS. UM, AND THAT IS WHAT, YOU KNOW, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO USE TRADITIONAL MATERIALS IN NEW WAYS TO CREATE VISUAL INTEREST. UM, ONE AND AGAIN, CONTEMPORARY INTERPRETATION. SO WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR BASE AND CAPITALS AND YOU DETAILS, WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE IT WITH MODERN INTERPRETATION OF PLEASE THINK THIS ONE, THIS ONE FURTHER EMPHASIZES THE CONTRAST BETWEEN THE STOREHOUSE AND THE RECONSTRUCTION HOUSE, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO, WE DON'T WANT, WE DON'T WANT WHAT WE DID AND WHERE YOU DON'T KNOW THE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN A HUNDRED YEARS AGO OR WHAT WAS BUILT, YOU KNOW, TODAY. SO, UM, IT'S VERY SIMILAR MASKING SCALE PROPORTION AND THAT SIDE BY SIDE THAT WE HIGHLIGHTED. BUT YOU CAN CLEARLY TELL THAT THE NEW CONSTRUCTION IS A CONTEMPORARY DESIGN, UM, WITH FIXED WINDOWS, WITH STEEL COLUMNS, WITH UH, FLAT ROOF AND YOUR OVERHANGS. NEXT ONE, PLEASE. ALRIGHT. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE IT. SO HAPPY YOU ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I WAS AT THE LAST, AND WE DID DISCUSS THE ELEMENTS THAT, UH, HORIZONTAL [01:25:03] SLIDING AND I SEE THAT, UH, MATERIALS, OH, WHICH ARE 27, PRESENTING THE HORIZONTAL. HE HAS ADDRESSED ANY OF THE CONCERNS. STATED, UH, MR. SHE YES. MOTION. UM, SURE. MR. GIBBS OR COMMISSIONER GIS. SO TO REITERATE YOUR REQUEST, YOU'D LIKE US TO CLARIFY THAT IS, UH, NOT, WE WOULDN'T, WE WON'T CON I'M NOT CONSIDERING THAT FOR MR. CHAIR. WE HAD A COUPLE COPS. I THINK IT'S, I IMPORTANT TO, UH, TO RECOGNIZE THE QUALITY AND TALENT DESIRED BEFORE US. AND, UM, AS A, I WOULD ALMOST THINK A THIRD PARTY TO OPINIONS AND INTENT [01:30:06] OF OPINIONS OF DESIRE, OVERWHELMING WEIGHT. FOR ME, INTENT. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT LOOKING AT ORIGINAL DESIGN, LOOKING AT THE DESIGN AS IT IS NOW, IT JUST CONVEYING THAT THISNESS MORE TO THE, THE OTHER ELEMENTS, WIDENED WINDOW, SINGLE WINDOW ACTUALLY CREATES A SENSE OF IDENTITY WITHIN IS AS IT BECOMES MORE, BUT MAYBE 20 MILES AN HOUR. IT'S JUST ANOTHER, I WOULD'VE IT DONE SO MUCH. TRY TO MEET IN THE MIDDLE CONSTRUCTION. WE'LL FIND, UH, A WAY TO, TO NOT, UM, WHAT, WHAT SOMETIMES APPEARS TO ME AGREEMENT AS OPPOSED TO HONOR THE, UH, AS OPPOSED TO HONOR THE, UM, THE VISUAL ASPECT OF, OF WHAT IS ARCHITECTURE. WE'RE REMINDED THAT WHEN TO FINISHING IS THAT, AND MOST DEFINITELY THAT COMES WITH, UH, CERTAIN, UH, MUTUAL RESPECT TO, TO KNOW THAT LET'S I IS MOST DEFINITELY DIFFERENT THAN SOMEONES. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTION? MR. I AGREE ON SIDING MATERIAL. READY? I'M NOT GONNA DO A MOTION COMM. UM, CHAIRMAN IS, COULD HEAR, I THINK HE MENTIONED. CAN YOU CLARIFY? ARE YOU, UH, OKAY WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROFILE? OH, AND MATERIAL? I'M NOT, YEAH, AND THAT'S, AND AND AND HERE'S THE ISSUE. THE WOOD SIDING. WHAT, WHAT WORRIES ME IS WHAT, KNOW THE YEARS AND PAINTING PAINTED WOOD SIDE, WE'VE SEEN THAT IT'S IN DIFFERENT COLORS. I YOU HAVE TO, TO SEE YOUR LOOK, BUT I'M JUST THIS INTRODUCTION OF THE MATERIAL THAT'S NOT REALLY FUN IN THIS AND ON THE STREET. [01:35:18] UM, MR. FROM YEAH. UM, SO IT IS, UH, THERE'S A, SOME OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS AUSTRALIA, THERE'S EVEN CORRUGATED METALS, MORE HUMBLE AND BELOWS ON OUR STREET THAT HAVE USED OH, OH. AND, AND THEN YEAH, THE, THE EXHIBIT WHERE WE SHOW THE USE OF IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. I WANT TO SAY THEY WERE THE EXACT SAME DISTANCE FROM THE, UM, THE, THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND PICTURE OF THE, THE SPOT YOU WERE JUST AT. SO THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND PHOTO SHOWS, UH, CORRUGATED METAL COR VERTICALLY, ZERO FENESTRATION AND, AND THERE THE SAME DISTANCE IF NOT FURTHER DISTRICT. AGAIN, I THINK OUR SOLUTION AND TRY TO MEET THE CONCERNS ABOUT PRECEDENT. I'VE BEEN TOLD MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANNA ECHO, UH, MR NOT BE ABLE TO ARTICULATE. I I I'M JUST REMINDED IT'S HARD TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAVE THESE ISSUES, THIS COMMISSION A LOT FAR FURTHER IN THE MIDDLE THAN SOMETIMES NECESSARY. SO THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. YES SIR. I, I THINK ONE OF THE IMAGES THAT SHOWED IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE MOVE IN THE, THE METAL POLE STRUCTURE AND THEN NEXT TO IT, OBVIOUSLY THIS ON THE CREATIVE SIDE, A COLUMN WITH WHAT IS AN INTERPRETATION OF A BASE IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT THE APPLICANT IS BRINGING BEFORE US AS A COUNTERS STEEL ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENT VERSUS THE MORE, UM, EASILY UNDERSTOOD HIGHER COLUMN BASE. ONE OF THE LAST PICTURES NOW ARCHITECTURE'S VERY INTERESTING, GONNA TALK ABOUT IT IN THE TERMS OF DOING IT, BUT JUST IN THE TERMS OF SAN ANTONIO IS NOT A REAL, UH, PROGRESSIVE IN LOOKING AT THE HOUSE AS A DIALOGUE IN ARCHITE, PRIMARILY BECAUSE ISSUES A HIGHER HAS BEEN A HIGHER LEVEL DISCUSSION [01:40:02] AND UM, NEVER BEEN INVOLVED HISTORY. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN LOOKED AT AS GUIDE LINE VOCABULARIES. KEEP IN MIND THAT PROJECT THAT THAT WAS THE CITY TALKED ABOUT, THAT HOUSE TIME GREW AND GREW, WE HAVE INTO THE LANGUAGE OF A HOLISTIC PIECE OF ARCHITECTURE. BUT OUR IS TO SAY THAT PIECE IS GREAT OUT NEXT, NEXT DOOR. NOW YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT COLUMNS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CRIPT AS A WHOLE. CLEARLY THE KID OF PARTS IN THIS COMMUNITY RELIES ON QUALIFIED DESIRES, ARCHITECTURAL, WE HAVE THEM TO BE ABLE TO BE BIG ENOUGH TO SAY THAT. SO IT'S NOT JUST THAT WE GRADE OR THAT WE, UH, EVALUATE THIS, THIS APPLICANT'S WORK BASED ON THE EVIDENCE BEFORE CASE JOB WELL DONE. AND THE ONLY WAY TO REWARD A JOB IS BY ENABLING THIS PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT US RISKING THAT WE'RE GONNA RUIN THIS PROJECT. YES MA'AM. I KNOW THAT. DID YOU, [01:46:34] I JUST WANTED TO, TO ASK. OKAY. HERNANDEZ, NO FISH. FISH. FISH IS ACID. NO. VELASQUEZ. VELASQUEZ, AYE. C OLA. AYE. C CARPENTER, CARPENTER. C GROUP. AYE. C FE AYE. C, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. 22 GATE AND ON THE PROPERTY INCLUDING BOTH THE STREET AND RIVER WALL LEVELS, [01:50:34] BU C STREET [01:55:54] COMMENTS, CARPENTER GON ISLAND JAVIER, PERSONAL [02:03:26] CONCEPT OF [02:05:28] IMPORTANT I I I'M ACTUALLY THE SOLUTION. YES. THE DOOR THAT ROLLS UP SHOULD YOU [02:11:42] FERNANDEZ SI, GIBBS QUE AREOLA. C CARPENTER. C GROUP, C, E. [02:15:55] DIFFERENT PERSONAS [02:25:55] IS [02:25:55] TO GIBSON [02:31:09] FERNANDEZ, C GIBBS C QUE, CARPENTER, CARPENTER, C GROUP CONSTRUCTION. UM, WE'RE NEGOTIABLE ON THIS I THINK IN THE UH, DESCRIPTION, UH, ONE OF THE COMPLIANCE, UM, THIS, UH, KNOW [02:35:17] DESCRIPTION, THE MATERIAL DISCUSSION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE QUESTION FOR WERE THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS DETAILED WITH THAT MR. CHAIR? UM, I TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THE ARCHITECT, ARCHITECT PROPOSING THE PART OF THE STRESSES, THE IS MOST IMPORTANT THING IS, UM, PART CONSTRUCTION, [02:40:02] IMPORTANT CONSTRUCTION, THE A COMMISSIONER, QUEZ FERNANDEZ, FERNANDEZ AYE. C GIBB, GIBBS QUE VELASQUEZ. C, OLA. C. CARPENTER, CARPENTER, AYE. C GROUP GROUP C, IT C. YES. CAN WE TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK? GRA [02:46:00] MICHAEL PENA IS A LEADER. THE PROJECT? NO, FOR THE PURPOSES MY INTERPRETATION. RECOMMENDATIONS INTERPRET SEEING [02:55:06] DISCUSSION. [02:55:13] FERNANDEZ. C GIBBS C QUE OLA. C CARPENTER. C GROUP C [03:00:31] CAP, UH, SENIOR PRESIDENT IS TO REPRESENT I I FORMAT THE, SO YOU SEE THE ACTUAL, UH, TOP PART OF THE RIDGE FROM THE GABLE END RESPOND. [03:05:06] A MOTION TO APPROVE HERNANDEZ C GI QUE OLA. C CARPENTER, CARPENTER. C. GROUP C. C CHRISTIAN, GREG IS ALSO, NO [03:10:35] SIR, WE DO NOT. I'M SORRY. FERN. FERNANDEZ. GIBBS QUEZ CARPENTER C, GROUP C, [03:16:40] FERNANDEZ, GIBBS VELASQUEZ C, OLA, CARPENTER, CARPENTER. C. GROUP C. C. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR TO FORM INSTALL YARD FENCE TWO. PROP 14 THREE RECEIVE HISTORIC TAX CERTIFICATION. ITEM ONE. HARPER'S APPROVAL OF MY YARD DEFENSE INSTALLATION BASED ON FINDING C THROUGH D WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS, ONE. THE APPLICANT YARD EXEMPT THAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE STRUCTURE. IRON FENCING OR WOOD PANEL FENCING. BASED ON FINDING D UPDATED MATERIAL, ATIONS MUST BE SUBMITTED TO STAFF OR REVIEW AN APPROVAL PRIOR TO THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. AND TWO, THE FINAL INSTRUCTION BE APPROVED. FENCING MAY NOT EXCEED THE MAXIMUM. ADDITIONALLY THE MUST BE PERMITTED AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OUTLINED IN A C SECTION 35 5 14. ITEM TWO, STAFF RE APPROVAL OF INSTALLATION BASED ON STIPULATION, BUT THE RAILINGS OF FRONT SQUARES ARE FULLY WOOD AND FEATURE ABOVE THE TOP AND BOTTOM RAIL. THE BOTTOM RAIL SHOULD FEATURE A VERTICAL ORIENTATION AND SHOULD BE INSTALLED APPROXIMATELY THREE FOUR INCHES ABOVE THE STEPS. BOTH TOP AND BOTTOM RAIL SHOULD BE CONSTRUCTED FROM PROPOSED RAILING. SHOULD NOT FEATURE AN OVERALL HEIGHT OF THAN THREE FEET, AND THE APPLICANT MUST SUBMIT EVIDENCE FINDINGS FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS. YES, I CAN HEAR. OKAY. UM, [03:20:10] WHAT I WANTED TO ADD TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS THAT WE NEED TO INSTALL THE FENCE IN DIFFERENT, UH, HEIGHTS BECAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE THE TERRAIN, IT HAS A DIFFERENCE OF, UH, UH, LEVELS AND WE NEED THE 10 TO START WITH FOUR, UM, FEET AS YOU SAID, BUT AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO USE MORE HIGHLY DEFENSE. SO IT CAN BE, UH, LEVEL. ALL THE WAY I WANTED TO SAY IS THAT THE HANDRAILS WERE INSTALLED AS, UH, THE STEEL REQUIRED WITH ALL THE CODES. THAT'S IT. THAT'S IT. QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, GENERAL REGULATIONS, FENCING KNOW MORE THAN FOUR. YEAH, I AGREE. UH, ALL THE FENCE IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE IS FOUR FEET. I'M TALKING ABOUT IN THE FLOOR, IN THE BACK PART. OKAY. IN THE, ONCE YOU GET PAST THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, THEN UH, A SIX FOOT TALL FENCE IS ALLOWABLE. I THINK. I THINK WHAT SHE'S MISUNDERSTANDING IS THAT, UH, BECAUSE IT CREATES A SLOPE, SHE THINKS THAT IT CREATES, WELL NO, BECAUSE, UH, BECAUSE OF THE SLOPE, UH, THE PART THAT IS FOUR FEET WOULD LOOK LIKE IF IT WAS TWO FEET, THE FOUR FEET, THE FOUR FOOT HIGH FENCE IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE WOULD FOLLOW THE SLOPE. SO AS YOU GO BACK FURTHER TOWARDS THE HOUSE, YOU'D STILL HAVE A FOUR FOOT TALL FENCE. RIGHT? SO ARE YOU IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FOUR FEET WITH EZ? YES. I HAVE TO PUT IT BACK. THAT'S FINE. SO TO CLARIFY, THAT'S THE FOUR FEET MEASURE RELATIVE TO THE IMMEDIATE SLOPE OF THE, OF THE AT, AT THE BASE OF FENCE, NOT JUST A CONTINUOUS HORIZONTAL DISTANCE ACROSS THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. SO IF SHE MAY HAVE TO STEP IT UP OR, OR HAVE TRANSITIONS, [03:25:06] I THINK SO THEY MADE ME DO THAT AT MY HOUSE. SO SUPPORT THAT AS SO MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF REHABILITATION. QUE CARPENTER, C I C. THANK YOU ALL. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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