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ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
[Call to Order]
UH, IF WE COULD HAVE OUR SPANISH TRANSLATION SERVICES STATEMENT.AND BEFORE WE BEGIN, UM, WE DO HAVE A MASK MANDATE IN PLACE HERE FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
SO WE DO ASK YOU TO WEAR A MASK DURING THIS MEETING.
IF YOU NEED A MASK, YOU CAN GET ONE.
UM, WE SHOULD HAVE SOME OVER HERE, BUT IF WE COULD HAVE OUR SPANISH TRANSLATION SERVICES STATEMENT.
UH, MY NAME IS JOHN BUSANTE AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT FIVE ZONING COMMISSIONER.
I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION.
UH, I LIKE TO DO ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT.
UH, MARCO BARROS, DISTRICT NINE, CHARLES FUENTES, DISTRICT THREE.
FRANCINE ROMERO, DISTRICT EIGHT, SUMMER GRADE HOUSE DISTRICT ONE.
AND I'M JOHN BUSTAMANTE, DISTRICT FIVE.
LILLIAN JONES, DISTRICT TWO,
COMMISSIONER KAMATH, IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF PLEASE.
UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
ALRIGHT, WE APPEAR TO HAVE SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES.
UH, 'CAUSE IF YOU CAN HEAR ME WAVE, THAT'S A, THAT'S ENOUGH.
UM, OKAY, WELL WE WILL ADDRESS THAT AND HOPEFULLY COME BACK AND HAVE THOSE COMMISSIONERS INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.
UH, MS. FLORES, IF WE COULD TEXT THEM OR DO SOMETHING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE AUDIO, I'D APPRECIATE IT.
PROBABLY THEY'RE CONNECTED PERFECTLY, SO IT'S GOTTA BE SOMETHING BETWEEN US AND THE BOX.
SO I'LL GET WITH THEM RIGHT NOW.
UM, I DO WANT TO WELCOME UH, COMMISSIONER FUENTES WHO IS OUR NEW COMMISSIONER FOR DISTRICT THREE.
WE WERE SORRY TO SEE COMMISSIONER MCGEE LEAVE OUR ZONING COMMISSION AFTER LAST MEETING, BUT, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AS WE GO FORWARD.
ALRIGHT, NOW IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ALL RIGHT, AND SO PRIOR TO COMMENCING OUR HEARING, I WOULD LIKE OUR STAFF TO REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE STAFF IF YOU WOULD.
BUT I CAN FIND RIGHT BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES TO VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF.
THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION.
YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER.
STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST.
PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND THE PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING, YOU WILL BE CALLED IN ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION.
YOU WILL BE INFORMED THAT THE THREE MINUTES ARE UP.
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOUR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES.
THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK.
THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS.
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STAFF, IF WE COULD, UM, CONFIRM THAT WE DO HAVE A QUORUM AND COMMISSIONER KAMATH, CAN YOU HEAR ME ALRIGHT? BUT WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT.[Items 1 & 3]
IF YOU WOULD, UH, IF YOU COULD PLEASE GO OVER THE POSTPONEMENTS WITHDRAWALS THAT ARE CURRENTLY, UM, COVERED IN THIS CASE.SO THESE ARE ITEMS THAT WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY.
THE TWO ITEMS THAT WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY ARE ITEM NUMBER ONE, WHICH WITH WAS WITHDRAWN.
IT'S LOCATED AT 92 90 LESLIE ROAD AND ITEM NUMBER THREE WAS POSTPONED.
THIS IS LOCATED IN THE 5,800 BLOCK OF U T S A BOULEVARD.
NEITHER OF THESE ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED AT ALL TODAY.
THERE WILL NO BE BE NO PUBLIC HEARING ON THESE.
WHEN THEY'RE MOVE READY TO MOVE FORWARD, UM, NEW NOTICE WILL BE SENT.
UM, AND JUST FOR A CLARIFICATION BEFORE WE TAKE A QUICK RECESS, UH, 11 IS A CONTINUANCE OR A POSTPONEMENT.
SO THE TWO ITEMS WE WILL NOT HEAR TODAY ARE ITEMS ONE AND THREE LISTED ON THAT SCREEN.
UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UH, WE ARE HAVING SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES WITH OUR BROADCAST.
SO WE WILL STAND AND RECESS, UH, FOR THE TIME BEING.
ONCE WE ARE ABLE TO BROADCAST THIS HEARING, WE WILL, UH, RECONVENE THE HEARING AND PROCEED.
SO THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR BEARING WITH US.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
UM, WE HAVE NOT QUITE RESOLVED THE LIVE BROADCAST, BUT WE DO NOW HAVE OUR TWO COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE REMOTE AND ARE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE.
SO WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THIS PUBLIC HEARING, UH, OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
THE TIME IS ONE 11 AND WE ARE BACK FROM THAT SHORT RECESS.
UH, BEFORE I CONTINUE, I WOULD LIKE, UH, COMMISSIONER KAMATH AND COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.
I, UH, I'M THE COMMISSIONER FOR OUR DISTRICT FOUR AND I'M GLAD TO BE ON THE PANEL TODAY.
AND COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, IF YOU'D INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
DALE MCDANIEL HERE REPRESENTING THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
ALRIGHT, UM, STAFF, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE GO OVER THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE FOR INDIVIDUAL HEARING AS WELL AS OUR COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE AND COMBINED HEARING NUMBER TWO.
ALRIGHT, COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE, THESE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE CONSIDERED FOR CONSENT.
ITEM NUMBER NINE WAS REMOVED FROM CONSENT AND MOVED TO INDIVIDUAL FOR SPEAKERS IN THE AUDIENCE.
SO THE ITEMS NOW ON COMBINED HEARING ONE ARE ITEM 10, 13, 14, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, AND 25 FOR COMBINED HEARING TWO, WHICH IS A REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCES.
THERE'S ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, ITEM 11 AND ITEM 12.
AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SPEAKERS FOR ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
AND FOR OUR INDIVIDUAL DOCKET INDIVIDUAL TODAY IS 2 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 15, 16, 17, 18, AND 24.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, IS THERE ANY ITEM THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PULL FROM EITHER COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE OR COMBINED HEARING NUMBER TWO FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE STAFF, IF WE COULD READ COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE INTO THE RECORD PLEASE.
UH, COMMISSIONER ITEM NUMBER 14.
COMMISSIONER SIPES, DID YOU WANNA PUT THAT DOWN FOR INDIVIDUAL? NO, I'M FINE WITH IT AS IS, IS THIS OR ARE THERE SPEAKERS IN THE AUDIENCE FOR UM, I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A, SOME DISCUSSION OF A POSSIBLE AMENDMENT.
OKAY, WELL THEN WE CAN MOVE IT DOWN THEN.
OKAY, WE WILL MOVE 14 TO THE INDIVIDUAL, UM, DOCKET.
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WITH THAT CHANGE, ANY FURTHER CHANGES FOR OUR COMBINED HEARING? NUMBER ONE OR COMBINED HEARING NUMBER TWO, SEEING NONE.[Items 10, 13, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, & 25]
READ COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE INTO THE RECORD.ITEM NUMBER 10 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I ONE TO C TWO SS WITH THE SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A HOTEL.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 32 NOTICES MAILED, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND COLLINS GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS NOT OPPOSED.
ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM RE TO M F 18.
THIS IS AN AMENDMENT MADE BY THE APPLICANT AND THEY WILL COME UP AND CONFIRM PRIOR TO APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT.
SO THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM RE TO MF 18.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 1 9 3 8 9 BABCOCK ROAD.
THERE WERE EIGHT NOTICES MAILED NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 19 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R E S WITH SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A MANUFACTURED HOME, EXCUSE ME.
R E TO R E S WITH A SPECIFIC USE FOR A MANUFACTURED HOME LOCATED IN THE 14,000 BLOCK OF OLD SOMERSET ROAD.
THERE WERE EIGHT NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 20 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE AND A AND I ONE TO C THREE.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 1600 SOUTH GENERAL MCMULLEN DRIVE.
RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND NO RESPONSE FROM THOMPSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 21 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO C D A H O D WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES TO C TWO C D A H O D WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES FULL SERVICE.
THIS ITEM HAS ONE CONDITION THAT THERE BE NO OUTDOOR AMPLIFICATION.
SPEAKER SYSTEMS NOT TO INCLUDE SECURITY CAMERA SYSTEMS. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 51 31 NORTHWEST LOOP FOUR 10.
THERE WERE SIX NOTICES MAILED.
NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION.
AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 22 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE NA TO R FOUR.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 39 30 CALIBRA ROAD.
THERE WERE 28 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION.
AND THERE'S NO RESPONSE FROM LOMA PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 23 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX AND R SIX PUD TO MF 33.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 100 BLOCK OF DOMINION DRIVE.
THERE WERE THREE NOTICES MAILED.
NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION.
DOMINION HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET IS IN FAVOR.
AND FINALLY, ITEM NUMBER 25 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE AND M P C D TO MF 50.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 15,000 BLOCK OF VANCE JACKSON ROAD.
THERE WERE NINE NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION.
AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
MR. CHAIR, IF WE COULD GET CONFIRMATION ON THAT ONE.
ON ITEM NUMBER 13, IF YOU WOULD CONFIRM THE AMENDMENT.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT COMMISSIONER WHITE HAS JOINED US AT, UH, ONE 18.
GOOD AFTERNOON, JAMES GRIFFIN, KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN.
UM, FOR ITEM NUMBER 13, WE WOULD LIKE TO AMEND OUR REQUEST, UH, FROM MF 33 DOWN TO MF 18.
ALRIGHT, IS THERE A MOTION ON COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE, MR. CHAIR? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR ITEMS NUMBER 10, NUMBER 13 WITH THE AMENDMENT.
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19, NUMBER 20, NUMBER 21 WITH THE CONDITION AS READ NUMBER 22, NUMBER 23 AND NUMBER 25.IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND THAT.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE ITEMS AS READ INTO THE RECORD BY COMMISSIONER SIPES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BOTTLES.
UM, STAFF IF WE COULD, UH, LET'S GO
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TO COMBINED HEARING NUMBER TWO.YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE WERE SPEAKERS FOR ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I TWO SS WITH THE SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR METAL RECYCLING, EXCUSE ME, FROM L TO I TWO SS WITH THE SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR METAL RECYCLING.
LOCATED AT 2218 WEST SOUTH CROSS STREET.
THERE WERE 23 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, SEVEN RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM QUINTANA COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION.
THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A CONTINUANCE TO OCTOBER THE FIFTH.
AND AS YOU DID NOTE, WE HAVE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
SO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THERE IS A REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE, BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM OR SPEAK REGARDING THE CONTINUANCE, YOU MAY DO SO.
STAFF, IF WE WOULD FIRST SPEAKER JERRY ARRADONDO IF CONTINUED WE'LL.
WE'LL WAIT FOR THANK YOU MR. HATCH.
MS. VERA, PLEASE COME UP AND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND THEN YOU MAY MAKE YOUR COMMENTS.
I HAVE AN ORGANIZATION CALLED KEEP SOUTH SAN PROUT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
AND I'M HERE WITH 180 SIGNATURES OF PEOPLE THAT ARE AGAINST DAN RECYCLING.
WE ARE, I FEEL THAT WE ARE LIKE IN A HOLE.
WE ARE SURROUNDED WITH CONTAMINATION FROM KELLY, OUR FOREST BASE RE UH, RECYCLING, PLUS ALL THE JUNK YARDS THAT ARE ON, ON SOMERSET ROAD.
WE DON'T WANT FOR THIS COMPANY TO EXTEND ANYMORE.
WE HAVE ENOUGH JUNK YARDS AROUND US.
SO, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE 180 SIGNATURES HERE THAT WE DON'T WANT THIS JUNK YARD THERE.
MR. SALAS, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UM, I LIVE AT 24 0 6 WEST GERALD WAS APPROXIMATELY 300 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY THAT WANTS TO BE REZONED.
UH, MY FAMILY'S BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE THE FORTIES.
I HAVE RELATIVES THAT LIVE ON THE ADJACENT STREETS.
UM, I WAS PART OF AN ORGANIZATION BACK IN THE EARLY EIGHTIES.
THE COPS ORGANIZATION, I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD OF IT.
BACK IN THOSE DAYS, WE HELPED PASS AN ORDINANCE WITH CITY COUNCIL WHERE THE SALVAGE YARDS COULD NOT EXPAND.
ALSO THAT THEY WERE TO KEEP THEIR CARS BELOW FENCE LEVEL.
ALL THE CARS AND JUNK OUT OF SIGHT.
IT LOOKS LIKE THAT ORDINANCE HAS BEEN EXPUNGED.
I DON'T KNOW BY WHO, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD STEEL FEELS THE SAME.
WE DON'T WANT THE JUNK, WE DON'T WANT THE UNCI UNSIGHTLY GARBAGE.
I'VE HEARD OVER AND OVER PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT GETTING FLATS 'CAUSE OF THE SCREWS AND NAILS BEING DROPPED.
PEOPLE BRINGING, UH, RECYCLING METAL TO THESE SALVAGE YARDS.
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ANYTHING.UM, THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 15 HOUSES THAT ARE WITHIN 500 FEET OF THIS PROPERTY.
AND THERE'S, UH, ENOUGH POLLUTION, THE OIL, WE CAN SMELL IT.
UM, NOISE POLLUTION, EVEN AT NIGHT, THEY WORK SOMETIMES 24 7.
NOT ALL THE TIME, BUT SOMETIME THEY DO.
UM, I KNOW THERE'S ASBESTOS IN SOME OF THESE OLD CARS THAT'S BEING PUT IN THE AIR, WHICH IS BAD FOR OUR HEALTH.
AND, UM, THAT'S ALL I CAN REMEMBER NOW.
BUT WE DON'T WANT THIS POLLUTION AND THIS INSIGHTLY MESS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
I KNOW THAT THESE PLACES WERE GRANDFATHERED IN.
THEY'VE BEEN THERE, BEEN THERE BEFORE I WAS BORN.
BUT WE DON'T WANT THEM TO EXPAND AND WE WANT THEM TO KEEP THEIR GARBAGE WHERE WE CAN'T SEE IT.
THAT'S ALL I CAN REMEMBER TO SAY NOW.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? THAT'S ALL WE HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
UM, THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE AND THE REQUEST IS FOR A CONTINUANCE TO OCTOBER 5TH.
UM, I KNOW THAT THIS IS CONTENTIOUS AND I'M AFRAID THAT THERE ARE VERY SET OPINIONS ON THIS CASE.
UH, THAT BEING SAID, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE IS A NEW REPRESENTATIVE FOR THIS APPLICANT.
I WOULD STILL LIKE TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THERE TO BE SOME KIND OF RESOLUTION HERE, IF POSSIBLE.
UH, AND TO ALLOW FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
I MOVE FOR CONTINUANCE TO OCTOBER 5TH.
IS THERE A SECOND, SIR? SIR? YES.
UM, MR. CASTILLO HAS NOTED THAT HE SIGNED IN TO SPEAK AS WELL.
UM, THERE WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING ON HIS ITEM NUMBER.
HELLO, MY NAME IS ANDY CASTILLO.
I LIVE AT 2,800 WEST SOUTH CROSS.
I'M ACTUALLY PRESIDENT OF THE QUINTANA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UM, WE HAVE MET WITH THIS GENTLEMAN, UH, WITH SHIRLEY GONZALEZ'S OFFICE, UH, A YEAR AGO.
AND THEN WE HAVE MET TWICE MORE WITH, UH, THIS OWNER, UH, THIS PAST YEAR WITH, UH, TERRY, UH, TERRY CASTILE AS WELL.
UH, FROM WHAT THEY HAVE SHOWN US, UH, WE ARE STILL OPPOSED TO HAVING THIS INCREASE OF FOUR ACRES AS, UH, UM, MORE OF A SITE FOR THEM TO GROW.
UM, I, I HAVE COME HERE TODAY JUST TO ASK NOT TO CONTINUE IT, TO DO A CONTINUANCE.
UH, WE'VE MET WITH THEM, I BELIEVE PLENTY OF TIMES FOR THEM TO GIVE US THEIR STORY ON WHY THEY SHOULD.
OUR COMMUNITY DOESN'T WANT IT.
UH, WE'VE GIVEN FOUR, UH, LETTERS, UH, OPPOSED OF IT FROM OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AROUND US AS WELL.
AS WELL AS, UH, MS. VERAS, UH, OVER 180 PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNS SAYING THEY DO NOT WANT THIS TO INCREASE, UH, UH, POLLUTION IN OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, I AM REALLY SURPRISED THAT, UH, STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED THIS TO BE APPROVED.
SO, UM, WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS AND, UH, I JUST WANTED TO BRING THIS UP SO THAT, UH, YOU GUYS KNOW THAT OUR COMMUNITY DOES NOT WANT THIS IN OUR, IN OUR AREA ANYMORE, AND WE DON'T WANT IT TO KEEP GROWING.
UH, MR. CASTILLO, UM, I GOT THROWN THERE FOR A SECOND.
UM, LIKE I MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, I STILL HOPE THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME ABILITY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS REGARDING HOURS OF OPERATION REGARDING, UH, AS MR. SALAS POINTED OUT, KEEPING THE VEHICLES UNDERNEATH THE FENCE LINE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UM, AND SO ONCE AGAIN, I MOVE FOR A CONTINUANCE TO OCTOBER 5TH.
IS THERE A SECOND? I MAKE A SECOND.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER REBATO.
ANY DISCUSSION? YES, COMMISSIONER WHEAT.
THE 180 SIGNATURES FROM MS. OLIVAREZ, IS THAT ENTERED INTO OFFICIAL RECORDS? SHE CAN BRING IT TO US, YES.
MS. OVETA, IF YOU WOULD JUST, UH, PROVIDE IT TO EITHER MS. FLORES OR MS. HERNANDEZ UP HERE AND WE CAN HAVE IT DISTRIBUTED TO THE COMMISSION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? ALRIGHT.
SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.
MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO OCTOBER 5TH.
WHO WAS THE SECOND? I'M SORRY.
UH, THE SECOND WAS COMMISSIONER BOTTLES.
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WHITE? YES.MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE OCTOBER 5TH.
IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM IN COMBINED HEARING NUMBER TWO.
THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 11, A REQUEST TO REZONED FROM R SIX A H O D TO RM FIVE A H O D, LOCATED AT 5 0 6 EAST ASHBY PLACE.
THERE WERE THREE NOTICE, 33 NOTICES MAILED.
NONE RECEIVED AN OPPOSITION, AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM TOBIN COMMUNITY.
THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER THE 21ST.
AND THIS IS A DISTRICT ONE CASE, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE OF ITEM NUMBER 11 TO THE SEPTEMBER 21ST HEARING.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND MCDANIEL.
UH, THERE IS A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE OF SEPTEMBER 21ST BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.
UM, A GENTLEMAN IS FLAGGING ME DOWN.
WAS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? THANK YOU SO MUCH.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY.
UM, WE, IT SOUNDS LIKE HE'S THE APPLICANT.
SO SIR, UM, BECAUSE THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF WE COULD HAVE OUR SPANISH INTERPRETATION SERVICES STATEMENT.
UM, SO SIR, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE.
SO, UM, WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.
AND WE WILL RETURN, UH, HOPEFULLY WITH THE TIME FOR YOU TO TALK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THEN TO CONSIDER THIS ITEM.
AND WE'LL SEE YOU ON SEPTEMBER 21ST.
ALRIGHT, STAFF, IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH SHOULD BE ITEM NUMBER 12.
OH, JUST WANNA SAY MOTION PASSED FOR THAT.
MOTION PASSED FOR CONTINUANCE.
ITEM NUMBER 12 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C ONE, C TWO, C TWO AND A C TWO AND A C D WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO PAINT AND BODY C THREE R AND C THREE R TWO MF 80 18 LOCATED AT 64 60 BABCOCK ROAD.
THERE WERE 33 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM TANGLEWOOD RIDGE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, MR. CHAIR.
THIS IS A DISTRICT EIGHT CASE COMMISSIONER ROMERO.
UM, YEAH, THIS, I JUST HAD A MESSAGE WITH THE APPLICANT AND I THINK TWO WEEKS IS GOOD.
SO I'M GONNA MOVE FOR A CONTINUANCE, UM, ON ITEM NUMBER 12 TO SEPTEMBER 21ST.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT.
THERE'S A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER 21ST BY COMMISSIONER ROMERO WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BATTLES.
ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.
UM, LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE INDIVIDUAL HEARING, PLEASE.
[2. ZONING CASE Z202110700129 ERZD (Council District 10): A request for a change in zoning from "C3R AHOD ERZD" General Commercial Restrictive Alcoholic Sales Airport Hazard Overlay Edwards Recharge Zone District and "C3R AHOD" General Commercial Restrictive Alcoholic Sales Airport Hazard Overlay District to "MF18 AHOD" Limited Density MultiFamily Airport Hazard Overlay Edwards Recharge Zone District and "MF18 AHOD ERZD" Limited Density MultiFamily Airport Hazard Overlay District on 4.73 acres out of NCB 17726, generally located in the 5000 Block of North Loop 1604 East. Staff recommends Approval. (Joyce Palmer, Senior Planner, (210) 2070315, Joyce.Palmer@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department).]
WE HAVE IS ITEM NUMBER TWO.THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM C THREE R A H O D AND C THREE R A H O D TO M F 18 A H O D AND M F 18 A H O D E RZ D.
THERE WERE 41 NOTICES MAILED NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION.
AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
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MATCHES THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA AND WILL PROVIDE A BUFFER BETWEEN THE NEARBY HIGHWAY AND LOWER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY.IS THERE A SAULS REPRESENTATIVE? GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.
UH, MICHAEL BARR WITH THE SAN ANTONIO WATER SYSTEM RESOURCE PROTECTION DIVISION.
UM, I'M HERE TO PRESENT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ZONING.
UH, WE HAVE REVIEWED THE ZONING APPLICATION FOR THE PROJECT NEAR THE SOUTHEAST INTERSECTION OF LOOP 1604 IN O'CONNOR ROAD TO ALLOW FOR A TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 1.17 ACRES, WHICH LIES WITHIN THE RECHARGE ZONE.
SO THERE'S ACTUALLY 1.17 OF THE 4.73.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP ON THERE OF VERY SMALL PORTION OF THE TOP, UH, LITTLE BIT LESS, LITTLE BIT MORE THAN 10% IS ON THE RECHARGE ZONE.
UM, BUT NO PORTION OF THE SITE, UM, FALLS WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN AND THERE ARE NO SENSITIVE GEOLOGIC FEATURES ON THE SITE.
UM, SAWS IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH ALL ENVIRONMENTAL RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THE REPORT, UH, TO INCLUDE 50% IMPERVIOUS COVER FOR THE 1.17 ACRE PORTION OF THE RECHARGE ZONE.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.
UM, I HAVE A, THERE'S A PRESENTATION.
I JUST WANTED TO ADD A COUPLE OF ITEMS, UH, A COUPLE OF FACTS ONTO THE, THIS CASE.
UH, FOR ONE, THE, AS YOU HEARD, THE THE C THREE ZONING IS THE CURRENT ZONING.
IT'S ACTUALLY INCONSISTENT WITH THE, THE LAND USE.
UH, CURRENTLY IT'S SUBURBAN TIER.
WELCOME, WELCOME TO OUR TECHNICAL ISSUES TODAY, MR. MCKNIGHT.
SO THIS IS A, UM, ONLY 4.73 ACRES.
THE ACTUAL, UH, DEVELOPMENT IS A, IS 17 ACRES.
SO THE 12 ACRES TO THE EAST OF THIS IS ZONE C TWO, BUT IT'S A B TWO TO C TWO CONVERSION.
SO IT ALLOWS, UM, UNITS UP TO 33.
SO THAT YELLOW PORTION IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR REZONING.
THE REST OF IT IS THE FULL DEVELOPMENT, THE FULL 17 ACRES.
AS I SAID, THAT'S THE, IT'S C THREE RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS ACTUALLY INCONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT LAND USE, WHICH IS SUBURBAN TIER.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S 454 TOWN HOMES, WHICH IS ABOUT NINE UNITS AN ACRE THAT'S MATCHING THE DENSITY, UH, TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH OF US, WHICH IS AN R FIVE PUD NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO SAME DENSITY, TWO STORIES, SO SAME HEIGHT.
UM, WE'RE ADDING A, WE'RE PROPOSING A 30 FOOT SETBACK, WHICH IS ACTUALLY FURTHER THAN THREE TIMES THE, UH, AMOUNT OF SETBACK REQUIRED FOR US.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE, THE PORTION OF THE E R Z D IS IS SMALL AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE PUTTING OUR DETENTION.
UM, THIS IS JUST A, A SLIDE SHOWING THAT THE KIND OF COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, CREATE.
I KNOW IT'S A QUESTION A LOT OF TIMES ABOUT WHAT KIND OF, YOU'RE NOT JUST BUILDING HOMES, BUT WHAT KIND OF COMMUNITY YOU'RE CREATING.
AND WE ARE CREATING A COMMUNITY HERE WITH A POOL AND CLUBHOUSE AND ACTIVITIES.
AND THIS IS JUST A LOOK AT SOME OF THE HOMES THAT HAVE, UM, THIS DEVELOPER HAS DONE IN OTHER AREAS.
AND LIKE I SAID, THIS'S, JUST A FEW DETAILS.
BUT THE LAST ONE I'LL ADD IS THAT WE DID MEET WITH THE CEDAR GROVE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH OF US AND I RECEIVED A LETTER OF NON OBJECTION ABOUT FIVE MINUTES AGO AND I JUST
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. MCKNIGHT, UH, STAFF.
OH, IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO, SIR.
UM, I WILL OPEN IT UP TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS IF THEY'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS.
I THINK WE HAVE A FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD, UH, CASE HERE, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING SAS UH, APPROVAL.
BUT I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMISSIONERS IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER WHITE.
ANY QUESTIONS TO COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.
REMOTE COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER WHITE FOR MOTION AND DISCUSSION.
ALL RIGHT, THEN I MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, APPROVE OF ITEM TWO.
AND WITH SAUL'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, I THINK I'M GONNA GO WITH COMMISSIONER JONES THIS TIME FOR THE SECOND.
SO, UH, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH SAUL'S RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, BY COMMISSIONER WHITE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JONES.
ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT.
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HEARING NONE, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.MOTION PASSES AS APPROVAL WITH SAUL'S RECOMMENDATION.
UH, STAFF, IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, PLEASE.
[4. (Continued from 07/20/2021) ZONING CASE Z202110700111 HL (Council District 2): A request for a change in zoning from "RM4 AHOD" Residential Mixed Airport Hazard Overlay District to "RM4 HL AHOD" Residential Mixed Historic Landmark Airport Hazard Overlay District on Lot 8, NCB 3100, located at 828 Nevada Street. Staff recommends Approval. (Joyce Palmer, Senior Planner, (210)2070315, Joyce.Palmer@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department).]
FOUR IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM RMM FOUR A H O D TO RM FOUR H L A H O D.IT IS LOCATED AT 8 28 NEVADA STREET.
THERE WERE 51 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY IS IN SUPPORT.
THE REQUEST FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION WAS INITIATED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
THE OWNER DOES NOT SUPPORT DESIGNATION.
ON MARCH 17TH, 2021, THE HISTORIC AND DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION APPROVED A FINDING OF HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE FOR THE PROPERTY AT 8 28 NEVADA.
THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT WILL REMAIN THE SAME AND THE HL IS SIMPLY THE ADDITION OF A HISTORIC OVERLAY.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND DR.
JENNY HAY FROM THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
HAY, IF YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION, I DO HAVE A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION.
I THINK YOU GUYS ALREADY HAD IT UP, SO EXCELLENT.
IF YOU WANNA JUST GO ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THAT'D BE JUST FINE.
UM, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.
I AM THE SCOUTS, A PROGRAM MANAGER AT THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU IN PERSON AGAIN.
UM, I AM HERE TODAY, UM, AS ALREADY STATED, BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL HAS ASKED CITY STAFF TO INITIATE THE DESIGNATION PROCESS FOR THIS STRUCTURE.
IT'S LOCATED AT 8 28 NEVADA IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO.
IT'S A SINGLE STORY CRAFTSMAN STYLE RESIDENCE THAT WAS BUILT IN 1918, UM, BY ED STEVES AND SONS FOR JOHN AND NONA TINSLEY.
UM, GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THE PROPERTY CAME TO OUR ATTENTION BECAUSE OF A DEMOLITION APPLICATION THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO OUR OFFICE IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.
UM, O P'S REVIEW FOUND THAT THERE WAS POTENTIAL SIGNIFICANCE.
THE REQUEST FOR A FINDING OF HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE WAS HEARD BY THE H D R C ON MARCH 17TH.
H D R C AGREED THAT THE STRUCTURE WAS ELIGIBLE AND SENT THE CASE TO CITY COUNCIL IN APRIL.
THUS THEN AGREED THAT THE PROPERTY WAS ELIGIBLE AND AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, DIRECTED STAFF TO BEGIN THE REZONING PROCESS, UM, TO DESIGNATE THIS STRUCTURE AS A LANDMARK.
THE H D R C HEARD THIS CASE AGAIN FOR THE REQUEST FOR DESIGNATION, UM, ON JUNE THE 16TH.
AND, UH, UH, APPROVED IT WITH A SUPER MAJORITY, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT BY STATE LAW, UM, AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS REMAIN OPPOSED TO THE DESIGNATION.
IF YOU WANNA GO ONTO THE NEXT SLIDE.
UM, I'LL GO OVER THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA JUST VERY BRIEFLY.
UM, WE FOUND THAT THIS STRUCTURE WAS SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION WITHIN A HISTORICALLY BLACK NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE NEARLY ALL OF THE HOMEOWNERS AND RENTERS WERE PEOPLE OF COLOR.
UM, MOST HOMEOWNERS AND RENTERS ON THE, THE 400 TO 2200 BLOCKS OF NEVADA, UM, UH, WERE BLACK, INCLUDING THE TINSLEYS WHO WERE THE PROPERTY OWNERS AT THE TIME THAT THE STRUCTURE WAS BUILT.
THEY OWNED 8 28 NEVADA AS A RENTAL PROPERTY ACTUALLY UNTIL 1940 ON THE 800 BLOCK.
A REMARKABLE NUMBER OF FAMILIES CONTINUED TO LIVE IN THEIR HOMES FROM THE 1910S THROUGH AT LEAST THE LATE 1950S.
SO IT'S A REALLY, UM, A DISTINCTIVE PATTERN OF CONTINUED RESIDENCE HERE, UM, UH, FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
UM, ALSO BECAUSE, UH, THE HOUSE WAS BUILT BY ED STEVES AND SONS.
THAT'S A SAN ANTONIO COMPANY FOUNDED IN 1866 THAT REMAINS IN BUSINESS TODAY.
UM, IT IS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF A CRAFTSMAN STYLE RESIDENCE THAT RETAINS CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES AS WELL AS ITS ORIGINAL FOOTPRINT.
UM, CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES HERE INCLUDE, UH, CLAPBOARD SIDING, EXPOSED RAFTER TAILS, TRIANGULAR KNEE BRACES, MULTIPLE ROOF PLANES, A GABLE, UH, EXCUSE ME, A FRONT GABLED PARTIAL WIDTH PORCH, A CONTINUOUS SILL LINE, AND A BATTERED SKIRT, ALSO CLAD AND CLAPBOARD.
AND THEN FINALLY, BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED BY STAFF AS AN ELIGIBLE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
OKAY, IF YOU WANT TO GO TO SLIDE FIVE.
SO BOTH THE HISTORIC AND DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL HAVE FOUND THAT THE PROPERTY IS ELIGIBLE FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION.
AND AGAIN, I WILL MENTION THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS DIRECTED STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, UH, DESIGNATION REQUEST.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
HAY, UH, IS THE OWNER PRESENT OR THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE PRESENT?
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OKAY.JONES, COMMISSIONER JONES? UM, YES, I JUST HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UM, I, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
I THOUGHT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WAS IN FAVOR OF THE DESIGNATION.
I HAVE A NO RESPONSE, BUT JENNY, DO YOU KNOW, I DID NOT KNOW THAT THERE WAS A NO RESPONSE.
IT'S JUST THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY THAT WE HAVE CONFIRMATION OF BECAUSE I PRETTY SURE I GOT A EMAIL FROM THE DENVER HEIGHTS ASSOCIATION IN FAYETTEVILLE.
WE'LL DOUBLE CHECK AND YOU CAN NOTE THAT FOR THE RECORD.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
UM, SO I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
UH, QUESTIONS, UH, COMMERS TO MY LEFT.
JUST SO I'M CLEAR, THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S NOT OPPOSED, BUT I BELIEVE, UM, MA'AM, YOU SAID THAT THE OWNER IS OPPOSED? YES, THAT IS CORRECT.
I I ACTUALLY CANNOT CONFIRM EITHER WAY ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER IS OPPOSED TO DESIGNATION.
AND DO WE KNOW WHY THE OWNER'S NOT HERE? NO.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
COMMISSIONER WHEAT, UH, QUESTION FOR STAFF.
SO, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING FROM THE OWNER OTHER THAN THAT? UH, THEY OPPOSED NO.
ANY COMMENTS OR ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR OPPOSITION? NO, SIR.
I JUST, UH, CHECKED WITH THE, UH, CASE MANAGER AS WELL AND THEY WERE GIVEN NOTICE THAT THE MEETING WAS TODAY AND HADN'T HEARD THAT THEY WERE NOT ATTENDING, SO.
UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSION ON MY RIGHT.
REMOTE COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, DR.
I, UH, CONSIDERING THE, THE CONTINUANCE AND ALL AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS, I MOVE THAT, UH, FOR APPROVAL OF THE MOTION AS STATED.
SECOND, UH, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY DR.
JONES AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROMERO.
UM, UH, ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
COMMISSIONER WHITE? UM, YEAH, BRIEFLY MY THOUGHTS ON THINGS LIKE THIS HAVE NOT CHANGED
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WYATT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER ON MY RIGHT.
SEEING NO DISCUSSION, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY DR.
UM, IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, PLEASE.
[5. (Continued from 07/20/2021) ZONING CASE Z202110700121 (Council District 3): A request for a change in zoning from "RP" Resource Protection District to "RE" Residential Estate District on 5.04 acres out of CB 4012, located at 19779 Pleasanton Road. Staff recommends Denial. (Associated Plan Amendment PA202111600052) (Joyce Palmer, Senior Planner, (210) 2070315, Joyce.Palmer@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department). 6. (Continued from 08/03/2021) ZONING CASE Z202110700058 (Council District 2): A request for a change in zoning from "R6 H AHOD" Residential SingleFamily Dignowity Hill Historic Airport Hazard Overlay District to "IDZ1 H AHOD" Limited Intensity Infill Development Zone Dignowity Hill Historic Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted for three (3) dwelling units on Lot 9, Block 2, NCB 529, located at 507 Hays Street. Staff recommends 5. (Continued from 07/20/2021) ZONING CASE Z202110700121 (Council District 3): A request for a change in zoning from "RP" Resource Protection District to "RE" Residential Estate District on 5.04 acres out of CB 4012, located at 19779 Pleasanton Road. Staff recommends Denial. (Associated Plan Amendment PA202111600052) (Joyce Palmer, Senior Planner, (210) 2070315, Joyce.Palmer@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department).]
THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE.IT'S A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM RP TO RE LOCATED AT 1 9 7 7 9 PLEASANTON ROAD.
THERE WERE EIGHT NOTICES MAILED.
NONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
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LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.PER THE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT IN 2017, THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA WERE ZONED RP TO PRESERVE THE RURAL CHARACTER OF THE AREA.
RE WILL INCREASE DENSITY AND WILL NOT MEET THE NEED.
MEET THE HERITAGE SOUTH SECTOR PLAN GOALS AND LAND USE PLAN FOR THIS AREA.
MR. CHAIR, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
UH, IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? IF YOU WOULD, SIR, PLEASE COME UP.
UH, TELL US ABOUT WHY YOU'RE SEEKING THIS REZONING.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
DO YOU HAVE THE POWER FORM? UH, MY NAME'S, MY NAME'S RAY RIVERA.
I'M THE APPLICANT ENGINEER FOR THE OWNERS.
SO THE IMPETUS FOR, UH, THE REZONING IS OBVIOUSLY A PREDECESSOR REQUIREMENT FOR REPL.
OBVIOUSLY THE ZONING DOESN'T JIVE, YOU CAN'T REPL IT.
SO THAT'S A FIVE ACRE PARCEL'S.
BEEN IN THE FAMILY FOR 18 YEARS.
SO THE STAR REPRESENTS THE PROPERTY.
UH, THE CURRENT USE LAND USE, UH, DOESN'T JIVE WITH ACTUAL ZONING.
AS A, AS MENTIONED BEFORE, RP REQUIRES 10 AC LOTS, NONE OF THE LOTS.
YOU GOT FOUR, YOU GOT FIVE, TWO AND A HALF.
THERE'S A PRECEDENT FOR REZONING.
UH, SO THIS IS WHAT THEY WANNA DO WITH THE PROPERTY.
HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE THOSE LINES.
YOU HAVE A FLAG SHAPE, LOT, TWO ACRES.
IT'S GONNA STAY IN THE FAMILY.
THE TWO ACRES CENTER WHERE THE, THE MOTHER AND UH, FATHER LIVED THEIR SEVENTIES AND THEN THEY ACTUALLY STARTED A FOUNDATION CAME HERE.
THEY DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS A PROCESS FOR IT 'CAUSE THERE WERE O C L, SO THEY STOPPED THAT AND NOW THEY WANNA DO IT THE RIGHT WAY, WHICH IS REZONING AND REPLETING.
SO THIS IS WHAT I MENTIONED ABOUT, UH, PREVIOUS PLAT.
SO UP NORTH OF THE PROPERTY THERE'S A PLA AND THAT HAVE MORE DETAIL ON, ON THE FOLLOWING SLIDE.
EACH OF THOSE RPS IS LESS THAN 10 ACRES.
THERE'S LESS ACTUALLY LIKE TWO ACRES A LOT.
SO THE STAR IS THE FIVE ACRE PARCEL ABOVE THAT IS A THREE ACRE PLATT.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE ONE I JUST MENTIONED, FOUR ACRE LOT OR PLATT.
AND THE LAST TWO SLIDES, SIX AND SEVEN SHOW THE PLATTS AND THERE'S A ACTUAL AREA.
SO IT'S REALLY BASICALLY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE LAND USE.
YOU HAVE RP, JUST LIKE IF YOUR HOUSE, YOUR LAND WAS ZONE C, IT, IT WOULD BE MISAPPLIED OBVIOUSLY.
SO THIS IS THE REQUEST FROM THE OWNERS AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
GREAT, THANK YOU MR. RIVERA? YES SIR.
UM, GOOD STAFF ARE THERE EITHER WAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE'S HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM.
UH, COMMISSIONER FUENTES, YOUR FIRST CASE, UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR STAFF? UH, YES.
SO ON THAT, UH, PIECE OF LAND, THE YES SIR.
THE, THE RESIDENT PLANS ON BUILDING A HOME.
THEY CURRENTLY HAVE THAT HOME IN THE FRONT.
CAN YOU ZOOM? UH, CAN YOU GO TO THE FIRST OR THE FIRST SLIDE PLEASE? YEAH, SO THEIR HOME IS ACTUALLY RIGHT THERE.
THE RED ROOF, RIGHT, RIGHT THERE.
PUT THE STARTING CENTER, OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT CORRECT.
SO THEY WANNA BUILD A HOUSE IN THE BACK FOR ONE OF THEIR DAUGHTERS.
AND THEN FOR, UH, SON-IN-LAW WILL BE THE HOUSE IN THE FRONT.
YOU SEE THE FOUNDATION RIGHT THERE? YEAH.
SO THAT WAS POURED DONE ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
THEN THEY REALIZED THEY WERE NOT IN ALIGNMENT SO THEY STOPPED.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
SO, SO THERE WOULD BE ONE ADDITIONAL WHOM ON THIS PIECE, THE TWO ADDITIONAL HOMES, IF YOU GO TO SLIDE THREE.
SO THE TWO ACRE LOT WOULD STAY RIGHT THERE WITH THAT HOME TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.
THAT ONE ACRE LOT, THAT'S HOW YOU CAN GET OUT OF IT, WOULD BE IN THE FRONT.
AND THEN IN THE BACK FOR THE FUTURE WOULD BE THE TWO ACRE LOT WITH THAT EGRESS EASEMENT TO ALLOW FOR ACCESS FOR THE BACK TWO LOTS.
THE FRONTAGE, OBVIOUSLY IT'S THE ONE ACRE LOT HAS ALL THE FRONTAGE.
I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE REST OF THE BOARD.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. FUENTES.
QUESTIONS REGARDING, UH, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, DR.
ROMERO? UM, I, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED, SO I'M SORRY IF THIS QUESTION DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
SO IT'S CURRENTLY RE IT'S CURRENTLY RP WHICH REQUIRES 10 ACRES FOR ONE HOME, BUT IT'S A FIVE ACRE LOT.
SO THIS WOULD BE, UH, CLASSIFIED AS A NON-CONFORMING LOT OF RECORD BECAUSE THE ZONING WAS PUT IN PLACE, UM, AFTER THE LOT WAS IN ITS, UH, CURRENT CONFIGURATION.
SO THEY COULD PROCEED WITH THE USES THAT ARE PERMITTED BY RIGHT UNDER THAT DISTRICT WITHOUT MEETING THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE REQUIREMENT.
AND THERE'S ALREADY ONE HOME THERE.
SO THEY'VE ALREADY DONE THAT? CORRECT.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ROMERO.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
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REMOTE COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER FUENTES BACK TO YOU FOR MOTION AND DISCUSSION.I WOULD, UH, LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED BY, UH, COMMISSIONER FUENTES AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARROS.
DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER'S ON MY LEFT, COMMISSIONER'S ON MY RIGHT.
REMOTE COMMISSIONERS DISCUSSION.
ALRIGHT, UH, HEARING NONE, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.
STAFF, IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO, I BELIEVE ITEM NUMBER
[6. (Continued from 08/03/2021) ZONING CASE Z202110700058 (Council District 2): A request for a change in zoning from "R6 H AHOD" Residential SingleFamily Dignowity Hill Historic Airport Hazard Overlay District to "IDZ1 H AHOD" Limited Intensity Infill Development Zone Dignowity Hill Historic Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted for three (3) dwelling units on Lot 9, Block 2, NCB 529, located at 507 Hays Street. Staff recommends Approval. (Lorianne Thennes, Senior Planner, 2102077945, lorianne.thennes@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)]
SIX, PLEASE.ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX H A H O D TO I D Z ONE H A H O D WITH USES PERMITTED FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS.
AND THIS IS LOCATED AT 5 0 7 HAYES STREET.
THERE WERE 23 NOTICES MAILED, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, THREE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR OUTSIDE 200 FEET, A PETITION RECEIVED WITH FIVE SIGNATURES IN OPPOSITION AND THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY IS OPPOSED.
STAFF HAS NOT FOUND, FOUND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS.
IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST, THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED MULTI-FAMILY USE JUST ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
UH, IS THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES, UH, PRESENT IS THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PRESENT FOR 5 0 7 HAYES STREET? UH, ARE THERE PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK? NO SIR.
I DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
COMMISSIONER JONES, THIS IS UP TO YOU.
UM, I, I DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, PARTICULAR QUESTIONS FOR, UH, STAFF.
UH, AND SINCE THE OWNER'S NOT HERE, I WANNA, UH, SEE IF MY OTHER FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT.
ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS ITEM? NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER JONES, IF I MIGHT MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION AS YOU WANT OR WE CAN CONTINUE IT TO SEE IF THE APPLICANT'S GONNA BE PRESENT OR, I THINK IT'S ENTIRELY UP TO YOU.
UH, THIS IS A PREVIOUS CONTINUANCE.
YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN CONTINUED BEFORE AND THE, UH, MEMBERS ON THE, UM, ON THE, UH, ON THE POLL ON THE SURVEY WERE, UH, ASKED FOR A MEETING AND PROMISED A MEETING AND NEVER GOT A MEETING.
UM, SO, UM, MY RECOMMENDATION IS FOR DENIAL.
UH, COMMISSIONER JONES HAS MADE A MOTION FOR DENIAL OF ITEM NUMBER SIX.
OKAY, I'M GONNA GO WITH COMMISSIONER SIPES.
UM, THERE IS A MOTION FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER JONES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SIPES.
DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT.
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FUENTES? YES.[8. (Continued from 08/03/2021) ZONING CASE Z202110700164 (Council District 1): A request for a change in zoning from "C2NA AHOD" Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C2 AHOD" Commercial Airport Hazard Overlay District on Lot 12, Block 119, NCB 8849, located at 1607 West Hermosa Drive. Staff recommends Approval. (Lorianne Thennes, Senior Planner, (210) 2077945, lorianne.thennes@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)]
TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT PLEASE.ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A REQUEST TO RE RESUME FROM C TWO NA A H O D TO C TWO LOCATED AT 1607 WEST MOSA DRIVE.
THREE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET, AND A PETITION WITH 25 SIGNATURES IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE GREATER BELLEVUE AREA COMMUNITY PLAN AND IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED AS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL.
THE REQUESTED C TWO IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL MR. CHAIR.
IS THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES PRESENT? HI, GOOD AFTERNOON.
I AM THE APPLICANT AND OWNER OF 1607 WEST ELMOSA.
UM, WE'RE APPLYING TO REMOVE THE NA UH, FROM THE PROPERTY ON 1607 WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY, UM, RUNNING A FOOD ESTABLISHMENT.
WE'VE BEEN, UH, RUNNING THE BUSINESS FOR LIKE FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS NOW.
UM, WE HAVE REALLY GOOD, UM, RESPONSE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, WE ALREADY HAVE SOME CLIENTELE AND WE WOULD LIKE TO OFFER BEER AND WINE ONLY TO THE CUSTOMERS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
SO IT'S NOT, UM, WE'RE NOT PLANNING TO OPEN UP A BAR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S JUST A RESTAURANT THAT SERVES BEER AND WINE ONLY.
UM, THAT'S, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME.
SO MAYBE JUST TAKE A SEAT IN THE FRONT ROW.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? YES, SIR.
ALRIGHT, MR. ARRADONDO, IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF, PROVIDE YOUR ADDRESS AND THEN GIVE US YOUR THOUGHTS.
CAN I TAKE MY MASK TO SPEAK OR IS THAT OKAY? UM, I'M HERE TO SPEAK.
I AM THE LENDER OF THIS, UH, DEVELOPMENT FOR, UH, THE, UH, GODDESSES.
AND, UH, JUST TO LET LET YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A TIME WHEN WE PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY 'CAUSE WE DO, UH, OWNER FINANCING ON, ON A LOT OF PROPERTIES, UH, BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.
THIS WAS A PROPERTY THAT HAD BEEN A REAL PROBLEM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR, UH, MANY, MANY YEARS SINCE IT WAS VACANT.
AND WE WERE GETTING COMPLAINTS.
OR THE OWNER AT THAT TIME WAS GETTING COMPLAINTS BECAUSE PEOPLE KEPT COMING AND USING IT AS A, UH, WELL THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE.
THE HOMELESS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND MATTER OF FACT, IT WAS VERY CLOSE TO THE DISTRICT ONE, UH, OFFICE, WHICH THEY EVEN TODAY HAD BEEN HAVING SOME ISSUES.
SO WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO IS, UH, MR. GOTAN AND HIS BROTHER CAME FORWARD AND SAID, WE'D LIKE TO DO THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THEY THEN, UH, MOVED FORWARD, DID IT.
AND IN ORDER TO ENHANCE THE DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE, THE, UH, THERE'S UH, REALLY TWO PIECE, TWO PROPERTIES.
BUT WHERE THEY WANT TO ACTUALLY HAVE IN THE REAR OF THEIR BUILDING ITSELF IS TO BE ABLE TO SERVE BEER AND WINE, WHICH IS, UH, HIGHLY APPROPRIATE.
AND IF YOU'LL, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT THE, UH, THE FOLKS THAT ARE IN FAVOR, THERE'S ONLY ONE PERSON IN OPPOSITION, IT MEETS WITH A COMMUNITY PLAN.
IT ALSO MEETS WITH THE PETITION OF THE NEIGHBORS IN SUPPORT.
AND, UH, THE PEOPLE WITHIN 200 FEET ARE ALSO IN SUPPORT.
AND THEREFORE WE ASK TODAY FOR, UH, FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? STAFF? NO SIR.
COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE QUESTIONS.
UM, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR BOTH THE APPLICANT AND STAFF.
UM, FOR THE APPLICANT IS THE PROPERTY.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO US HOW THE PROPERTY'S BEING USED? THERE ARE TWO TRACKS HERE, BUT YOU'RE KIND OF OPERATING THEM ALL KIND OF UNDER ONE, UM, USE.
SO THE, THE FOOD TRUCK, UM, THAT'S ON THE, THE PROPERTY THAT'S CLOSEST TO THE, UM, ACCESS
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ROAD, YOU'RE ALSO THEN HAVING CUSTOMERS ON THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR TO THAT AS WELL.IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, YEAH.
UM, SO THE TRUCK THAT YOU SEE ON THE PICTURES, THE ORANGE ONE, IT'S ONLY FOR DECORATION PURPOSES.
WE'RE NOT SELLING FOOD OUT OF IT.
UH, WE'RE SELLING FOOD OUT OF THE OTHER TRAILER.
SO THAT'S A TACO TRAILER ON THE, ON 1603 AND THEN ON THE BACK OF THE BUS YOU CANNOT SEE IT 'CAUSE IT'S A REALLY TINY HOUSE.
I THINK IT'S LIKE 700, UH, SQUARE FOOT.
UM, AND BEHIND THE HOUSE IT'S UH, BACKYARD OF COURSE.
AND THAT WE HAVE AN ENCLOSED LOUNGE THAT WE'RE USING FOR A SMOKING AREA ONLY RIGHT NOW.
AND WE WANNA SELL THE ALCOHOL THERE.
SO IT'LL BE IN THE 16, 16 0 7.
'CAUSE ON 16 16 0 3, WE WERE REQUESTED BY THE CITY, UH, TO BUILD A SMALL PARKING LOT.
SO OH THREE HAS A PARKING LOT AND THE TACO TRAILER.
SO WE'RE NOT SELLING ALCOHOL ON 1603.
WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA DO IT ON 1607.
THAT'S HOW WE'RE OPERATING RIGHT NOW.
BUT THE PATRONS, AFTER THEY ORDER FOOD, UM, WHERE ARE THEY LOCATED? ARE THEY GOING TO BE ON BOTH PROPERTIES OR JUST ON THE ONE ON 1607.
THEY CAN GO TO 1603, BUT THE DESIGNATED DRINKING AREA IS GONNA BE ON 1607, WHICH IS THE BACKYARD OF THE HOUSE.
AND IT'S A, LIKE A LOUNGE AND IT'S ENCLOSED.
WE HAVE UH, WE HAVE LIKE A LITTLE PRIVACY FENCE, UH, FOR SMOKING AND DRINKING FOR ADULTS ONLY 'CAUSE THE PLACE, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S ALL COLORFUL AND IT'S FAMILY ORIENTED.
SO BASICALLY THE FAMILIES COME IN, YOU KNOW, EAT SOME TACOS AND THEY WANNA HAVE ONE OR TWO BEERS, SOMETHING REALLY LIGHT.
AND THEN ALSO, UM, I WANTED TO MENTION THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY IS A REALLY SMALL PROPERTY.
THE ONE THAT I'M REQUESTING THE CHANGE ON, IT'S, I THINK IT'S ONE EIGHTH OF AN ACRE.
SO IT'S UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN OPEN UP A DANCE CLUB OR A BAR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S, UH, AND WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA KEEP IT JUST LIKE THE WAY WE'RE OPERATING RIGHT NOW, ONLY OFFERING BEER AND WINE.
AND WHEN YOU SAY IT'S AN ENCLOSED AREA, DO YOU MEAN THAT UM, IT'S COMPLETELY ENCLOSED, LIKE AS IN LIKE A BUILDING THAT'S WHERE THE DRINKING IS GOING TO HAPPEN? OR IS IT UM, LIKE IN AN OPEN YARD BUT THERE'S JUST A PRIVACY FENCE? IT IS AN OPEN YARD.
I WAS GOING TO LOOK FOR PICTURES THAT I HAVE ON MY PHONE.
UM, YES, IT IS AN OPEN YARD AND IT'S JUST WITH THE PRIVACY FENCE AND WE HAVE SITTING IN THE BACK, UH, SHOULD HAVE IT RIGHT HERE AND I'LL SHOW IT TO YOU RIGHT NOW IF YOU GIMME ONE SECOND.
JUST HAVE WAY TOO MANY PICTURES.
UM, SO WE HAVE LIKE, UH, PATIO FURNITURE IN THE BACK WITH THE FENCE.
BUT YEAH, IT ISN ENCLOSED, UM, OUTDOORS.
'CAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER THING WE'RE GONNA KEEP IT OUTDOORS 'CAUSE BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON AND WE WANNA, WE'RE HAVING REALLY GOOD UH, FEEDBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORS THAT THEY REALLY WANTED A PLACE TO GO SIT DOWN AND EAT SOME TACOS.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, THERE'S ANOTHER TACO PLACE REALLY KNOWN IN SAN ANTONIO THAT, UH, TAQUITOS WEST AVENUE BUT THEY DON'T HAVE AS MANY SEATING AREA.
UM, SO THEY ACTUALLY, WE HAVE HAD REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORS AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SIGNATURES OF SUPPORT THAT WE GATHER.
UM, HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE PROPERTY, ABOUT NOISE OR THE OPERATION? BEING HONEST, IT'S JUST THAT SINGLE NEIGHBOR.
UM, AND I DON'T, I I, I DON'T KNOW WHY I BELIEVE HE DOESN'T LIKE US OR I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE A REASON 'CAUSE NOT EVEN THE NEIGHBOR IN THE BACK OR YOU KNOW, THE OTHER NEIGHBORS.
UM, AND UM, WE TRY TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, THE NOISE LEVEL AT THE MINIMUM, WHICH IS LIKE 63 DECIBELS.
WE EVEN GOT A DECIBEL METER, YOU KNOW, TO BE, UH, TO MAKE THEM HAPPY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WITHIN THE LAW.
WE ALWAYS CLEAN UP AFTER OUR CUSTOMERS AND MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THAT IT'S NOT TRASH OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT ON THE STREETS.
AND WE EVEN TAKE CARE OF THE CITY PROPERTY THAT IS IN FRONT OF OUR PROPERTY.
THERE'S A LITTLE TRIANGLE, UM, AND YOU CANNOT SEE IT, UH, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE HIGHWAY.
AND THEN THE OTHER IS A VACANT LOT ON THE PROPERTY AND WE CUT THE GRASS.
WE TRY TO DO AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE FOR THE COMMUNITY 'CAUSE IT'S ALSO GOOD FOR OUR BUSINESS OF COURSE.
UM, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
COULD YOU CONFIRM, I KNOW THAT THE ZONING OF THE PROPERTIES AROUND THIS IS ALL RESIDENTIAL.
HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONFIRMATION THAT THAT'S THE ACTUAL USE OF THOSE PROPERTIES? IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, THOSE ARE THE USES.
AND THEN ALSO TO THE EAST AS WELL? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
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QUESTIONS? COMMERS ON MY LEFT.UM, HAS THE CITY PARKS DEPARTMENT WEIGHED IN ON THIS SINCE THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT DOOR? WE NOTIFIED THEM BUT THEY TYPICALLY DON'T, UM, RESPOND, UM, UNLESS IT IS UM, LIKE A LARGER RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION AND THERE'S A PARK REQUIRE OR OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS.
BUT NO, THEY DIDN'T WEIGH IN ON THIS ONE.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER ON MY RIGHT QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER HUE QUESTION FOR STAFF.
SO THERE'S NO RESTRICTION OF ALCOHOL, UH, BEVERAGES AROUND UH, UH, CITY PARK? I'M SORRY, COULD YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? THERE ARE NO, UH, ARE THERE NO RESTRICTIONS FOR, UH, ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION AROUND THE CITY PARK? SO IF THERE ARE, UH, RESTRICTIONS, IT WOULD BE RELATED TO THE PARK ITSELF, IT WOULDN'T, UM, HAVE A, AN INFLUENCE OR DIRECT IMPACT ON PROPERTIES THAT ARE OWNED PRIVATELY BY SOMEBODY ELSE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.
REMOTE COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS? YES.
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT, AND I THINK I ASKED THIS THE LAST TIME.
WHAT ARE YOUR HOURS OF OPERATION? WE'RE OPEN THURSDAY THROUGH SUNDAY, 6:00 PM TO 12:00 AM AND WE'RE WILLING TO DO THE ALCOHOL SALES ONLY DURING THE WEEKEND.
AND UM, QUESTION FOR STAFF, AND I'M SURE YOU'VE CHECKED ON THIS, BUT WHAT, UH, DO THEY MEET THE, UH, CRITERIA FOR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT'S DOWN THE STREET? THERE'S NO VARIANCE REQUIREMENT FOR THIS.
UM, AND JUST TO BE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND, SO HE'S APPLYING TO REMOVE THE NA FOR THIS SO HE CAN SERVE BEER AND WINE, BUT THAT ACTUALLY GOES THROUGH T A B C SO HE CAN KICK THAT OUT AND AS LONG AS HE IS APPROVED THROUGH T A B C, HE CAN TAKE IT TO A FULL BAR IF THAT'S WHAT HE WANTS TO DO AND IF IT'S APPROVED.
IS THAT CORRECT? BARS ARE NOT PERMITTED BY RIGHT.
IN C TWO, THEY'RE ONLY PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN C THREE.
THIS IS FOR A RESTAURANT WITH ALCOHOL SALES.
SO AGAIN, I'M JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY.
HE WOULD BE THEN LIMITED TO BEER AND WINE.
THE NA OR THE REMOVAL OF THE NA DOESN'T, UM, REGULATE THE TYPE OF ALCOHOL THAT IS ONLY REGULATED BY THE T A B C AND THE TYPE OF LICENSE THAT HE, UH, THAT HE APPLIES FOR.
UM, BUT WHAT OUR ZONING REGULATES IS THE USE.
SO NOT A BAR, BUT A FOOD, UH, SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT WITH ALCOHOL SALES.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? REMOTE COMMISSIONERS? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE.
ALRIGHT, ANOTHER ROUND OF QUESTIONS STARTING WITH COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
I THINK, UM, JUST TO CLARIFY, UM, ON COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL'S QUESTIONS, IF THEY WERE TO HAVE APPLIED TO REMOVE THE NA ON THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR, WHICH IS 1603, THAT WOULD FALL WITHIN THE, UM, 300 FEET FROM THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, IS THAT CORRECT? SO WITH PROPERTY LINE TO PROPERTY LINE, IT, IT, IT APPEARS, JUST LOOKING AT IT SUPERFICIALLY, IT APPEARS IT MAY, UH, TOUCH THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE SCHOOL.
SO HAS THAT NOT BEEN ANALYZED BY STAFF THEN? IF HE WAS REZONING THAT PROPERTY BUT THAT PROPERTY IS NOT BEING REZONED? OKAY.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION, UM, I THINK, UM, BASED ON WHAT COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL WAS SAYING IS THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO SELL ANY TYPE OF ALCOHOL ON THIS PROPERTY.
IF WE REMOVE THE IN, IT WOULDN'T BE SOLELY LIMITED TO BEER AND WINE, BUT IT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO OPERATE AS A BAR IN THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST 25% OF ITS SALES FOR FOOD, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? TO MY LEFT, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT.
REMOTE COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? UM, YES, STAFF.
COULD YOU, COULD YOU BRING UP THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS ME WHERE THE PERSON WAS OPPOSITION? ACTUALLY, LIZ, IT SHOULD BE ON THE SCREEN.
IT'S THE X DO YOU SEE IT? SO IT'S THE HOUSE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THIS PROPERTY.
AND HELP ME UNDERSTAND, 'CAUSE I WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO ADDRESSES HERE.
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ONE IS 1607 AND WHICH ONE IS 1603.1607 IS THE ONE WITHIN THE DARK RED LINE THAT'S THE SUBJECT OF THE REZONING.
AND 1603 IS THE ONE NEXT DOOR THAT'S NOT SUBJECT TO THE REZONING.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
ALRIGHT, UH, SEEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND MOTION.
UM, SO THIS IS A, A DIFFICULT CASE FOR ME IN A LOT OF WAYS, UM, BUT I'LL BE MA MAKING A MOTION FOR DENIAL.
UM, TO ME, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE FACTORS AS FAR AS COMPATIBILITY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ANY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE.
UM, I DO THINK THAT REMOVING THE, THE NO ALCOHOL RESTRICTION ON THIS PROPERTY, IT BEING THAT IT IS SO CLOSE TO, UH, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, UM, AND THAT THERE'S NO WAY FOR US TO REALLY RESTRICT THAT GOING FORWARD TO BEING ONLY BEER AND WINE OR RESTRICTING THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
THIS COULD BE OPEN UNTIL 2:00 AM.
UM, BEING THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME COMPLAINTS, UM, ALSO, I, I DO HAVE A BIT OF A CONCERN WITH THE FACT THAT IT, IT, THEY'RE ONLY ASKING TO REMOVE THE NA ON THE ONE PROPERTY, BUT IT'S STILL KIND OF BEING USED.
UM, BOTH PROPERTIES ARE BEING USED AS ONE AND CONTROLLING THAT IN THE FUTURE COULD BE DIFFICULT.
UM, SO ALSO THE, THE, UM, DISTANCE TO THE SCHOOL IS A CONCERN TO ME, UM, AS WELL AS JUST THE POTENTIAL FOR NOISE POLLUTION, UM, AND, AND OTHER DISTURBANCES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THAT'S WHY, AND, AND ALSO I THINK THE SUITABILITY AS PRESENTLY ZONED, THE, THE APPLICANT IS CURRENTLY RUNNING AN OPERATION THERE SUCCESSFULLY.
SO I BELIEVE THAT, UH, THAT THIS, THAT THE DENIAL IS THE, IS THE CORRECT, UM, MOTION FOR THIS.
THERE IS A MOTION TO RECOMMEND DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND MCDANIEL.
THERE IS A MOTION TO RECOMMEND DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT, DR.
I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS MOTION BECAUSE I AM CONCERNED THAT WE HAVEN'T HEARD BACK FROM THE CITY PARKS DEPARTMENT, WHICH DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THEY SAW IT AND THEY'RE FINE WITH IT.
'CAUSE I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE THAT SOMETIMES THEY, THOSE REQUESTS JUST DON'T GET TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE, THOSE NOTIFICATIONS.
SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST AN ADDITIONAL LAYER THAT CONCERNS ME ON THIS.
YEAH, I, I AGREE WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS THAT IT'S A TOUGH ONE.
UM, HOWEVER, I, I'M NOT GONNA BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION.
UM, I THINK BECAUSE THE HOURS, IF I HEARD CORRECTLY, ARE 6:00 PM TO 2:00 AM IS THAT RIGHT? 12.
AND WE WANNA KEEP IT LIKE THAT.
UM, I, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'LL BE ISSUES THERE WITH, UM, THE SCHOOL AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE ONLY GOT ONE NEIGHBOR HERE.
I MEAN, THE MAJORITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD SEEMS TO BE, UM, IN SUPPORT OF THIS, UM, CAN NEVER MAKE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE HAPPY, WHICH I THINK IS, IS THE CASE HERE WITH THE, WITH THE ONE PERSON THAT HAS SPOKEN UP.
UH, SO I THINK THAT, UH, THIS APPLICATION IS APPROPRIATE.
I ALSO BELIEVE YES, STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AS WELL.
AND SO, UM, I I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THE RECOMMENDATION OR THE MOTION.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WHITE, COMMISSIONER RE BARTOS, AND THEN COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
YEAH, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.
UM, DO Y'ALL HAVE A D A B C LICENSE ALREADY APPROVED? NOT YET.
UH, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN SEVERAL T A B C AND THAT PROCESS TAKES ALMOST SIX WEEKS TO TWO MONTHS.
SO I KNOW YOU'LL HAVE A LOT OF WORK, UH, AND A LOT OF RESTRICTIONS.
AND THE, THE T A B C IS VERY RESTRICTIVE, SO I, I I WILL SUPPORT THIS, UM, UH, MOTION, UH, IN, IN FAVOR.
THE, THE MOTION IS FOR DENIAL, JUST TO BE CLEAR.
I'M GONNA SUPPORT THE, THE, ACTUALLY FOR THEM TO GET APPROVED.
UM, I AGREE WITH, UH, THE LAST TWO COMMISSIONERS.
I BELIEVE THAT THE RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE BEING SELF-IMPOSED BY THE APPLICANT ARE, UM, STRINGENT ENOUGH TO, TO CARRY THE APPROVAL.
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TO ADD MY NAME INTO THAT, THAT I WILL NOT, UH, BE APPROVING THIS.COMMISSIONER FUENTES, UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT, I'LL LET YOU HAVE THE LAST WORD.
COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, UH, COMMISSIONER SIPES.
I'M GONNA BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
UM, AND, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, UH, PRETTY MUCH, UH, LISTED ALL THE REASONS WHY.
AND MY MAIN FOCUS IS ON THE ADJACENT LOT THAT WAS MENTIONED.
AND IT'S, AND IT'S, I I HAVE CONCERNS THAT WE'RE BREAKING IT UP AND EVEN THOUGH IT FUNCTIONS AS A SINGULAR ENTITY, WE BREAK IT UP AND WE'RE GONNA SAY, WELL, ALCOHOL WILL ONLY BE SOLD ON THIS SIDE WHERE, AND THE REASON IS, IS BECAUSE ON THE OTHER LOT IT WOULD BE PERHAPS WITHIN THE DISTANCE LIMITATIONS OF, OF THE SCHOOL.
UM, I JUST DON'T SEE THAT AS A, A GOOD THING.
SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION FOR DENIAL.
REMOTE COMMISSIONER'S DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES, TO MY, UM, COLLEAGUES HERE.
LET ME JUST BACK UP AND SAY, INITIALLY WHEN THIS PROPERTY WAS REZONED, I THINK AROUND 2015, THE NA WAS APPLIED.
AND I AM GUESSING THAT'S BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT THAT TIME DIDN'T WANT THAT.
THEY WANTED TO PROTECT THE, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, BUT THEY WERE WILLING TO ALLOW A DIFFERENT KIND OF USE FOR THAT PROPERTY.
UM, IT IS ON THE CUSP ENTERING INTO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
I, I WOULD NOT HAVE SUPPORTED A C TWO REQUEST BACK THEN EITHER WAY, BUT I AM CONCERNED THERE IS NO WAY TO LOCK IN THIS GENTLEMAN.
AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, HE MAY VERY WELL MANAGE HIS PROPERTY THE WAY HE HAS TOLD US, BUT AS WE KNOW, PROPERTIES GET SOLD AND THERE IS NO WAY TO CONTROL THAT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS TO WHAT GOES FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.
I'M ALSO CONCERNED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT DISTANCE TO THAT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
UM, AND SO THOSE ARE THE REASONS WHY I AM SUPPORTING THE DENIAL.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
AND, UM, THANKS TO COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
SHE MADE SOME OF THE POINTS THAT I WANTED TO MAKE, BUT I DO WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR THAT REGARDLESS OF HOW THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY BEING OPERATED, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB AND YOU'RE BEING RESPECTFUL OF YOUR NEIGHBORS, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT IF YOU NO LONGER CONTINUE TO OPERATE THAT PROPERTY AND IT CHANGES HANDS, THE FACT THAT IT'S THURSDAY THROUGH SATURDAY FROM 6:00 PM TO MIDNIGHT DOESN'T GIVE ME ANY, ANY, UM, YOU KNOW, CONFIDENCE THAT GOING FORWARD THAT THE ANOTHER PROPERTY OWNER WOULD CONTINUE TO OPERATE IT IN THE SAME MANNER.
THEY WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO OPERATE AT SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 24 HOURS A DAY, SUBJECT TO OBVIOUSLY STATE LAW
SO WITHOUT HAVING SOMETHING LIKE A CONDITIONAL USE OR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT THAT ALLOWS US TO PUT THOSE LIMITATIONS ON THERE, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE GOING FORWARD WITH THE NO ALCOHOL RESTRICTION BEING REMOVED.
UM, ROLL CALL, VOTE COMMISSIONER.
COULD YOU, UM, MAKE THE MOTION AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S VERY CONFLICTING LANGUAGE? ABSOLUTELY.
THE MOTION IS FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, UH, WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
SO IT IS A DENIAL IN THIS CASE.
THAT MEANS THAT THE NA WILL REMAIN ON THIS PROPERTY IF THIS MOTION CARRIES.
ALRIGHT, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.
UH, STAFF, IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, PLEASE.
[9. (Continued from 08/17/2021) ZONING CASE Z202110700174 (Council District 3): A request for a change in zoning from “FR” Farm and Ranch District to "R4" Residential SingleFamily District on 182.281 acres out of CB 4007, located at 13511 Old Corpus Christi Road. Staff recommends Approval, pending Plan Amendment. (Associated Plan Amendment PA 202111600049) (Logan Sparrow, Policy Administrator (210) 2078691, Logan.Sparrow@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department).]
NINE IS A REQUEST TO RESUME FROM FR TO R FOUR.LOCATED AT 1 3 5 1 1 OLD CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD.
THERE WERE 17 NOTICES MAILED ONE
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RECEIVED IN FAVOR TO AN OPPOSITION AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DEVELOPMENT TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT.PROPERTY GENERALLY CONSISTS OF MULTI-FAMILY USES IN RETAIL AND SUPPORTS THE PLANNED SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITY TO THE EAST AND SOUTH.
HOWEVER, CARE SHOULD BE TAKEN TO MITIGATE THE POTENTIAL EFFECTS TO THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE ADJACENT I ONE AND I TWO.
SETBACKS AND REQUIRED LANDSCAPE BUFFERS MAY HELP TO MITIGATE THESE EFFECTS WITH ADJACENT USES.
LARGELY VACANT STAFF FINDS THIS DEVELOPMENT IS UNLIKELY TO NEGATIVELY AFFECT ADJACENT USES.
UH, IS THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PRESENT? UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR COMMISSIONERS.
CAROLINE MCDONALD, BRANDON ORTIZ, ONE 12 EAST PECAN HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION PREPARED.
UM, THIS ITEM WAS BEFORE YOU, UM, ON AUGUST 17TH, WE DID AGREE TO A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO ALLOW US TO MEET WITH ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WHO DID, UH, COME TO THAT MEETING WITH, UH, CONCERNS ON CITY MAINTENANCE AND DRAINAGE ISSUES.
SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THE, UH, PROPERTY IS ABOUT 183 ACRES.
IT IS SOUTHEAST OF 180 1 AND HIGHWAY 37, BUT NORTH OF SOUTHTON ROAD AND HIGHWAY 37.
UM, THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREAS WERE ANNEXED BACK IN 2016.
UM, AND PRIMARILY GIVEN, UM, AGRICULTURAL, UH, ZONING DISTRICTS LIKE THE FARM AND RANCH THAT YOU SEE HERE TODAY.
UM, THERE IS AN ASSOCIATED PLAN AMENDMENT WITH THIS ZONING CASE.
IT WE ARE IN WITH, WE ARE WITHIN THE HERITAGE SOUTH SECTOR PLAN.
WE ARE RURAL ESTATE AND AGRIBUSINESS TIER.
WE ARE REQUESTING A CHANGE TO SUBURBAN TIER, UH, FOR COMPATIBILITY WITH OUR ZONING REQUEST PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF OUR LAND, LAND USE CHANGE ON AUGUST 11TH.
UM, THIS IS THE, THE PROPERTY.
THE REZONING TO R FOUR WILL ALLOW FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME SUBDIVISION.
UM, THE ACREAGE OF THE PROPERTY IS 180 3, BUT THERE IS ABOUT 34 ACRES OF FLOODPLAIN.
THIS R FOUR REQUEST, WITH THAT 149 ACRES WOULD ALLOW FOR US TO CONSTRUCT ABOUT 116 HUNDRED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
HOWEVER, WE ARE PROPOSING A MIXTURE OF R FOUR AND R FIVE LOTS WITH THE TOTAL OF APPROXIMATELY 660 HOMES.
AS I PREVIOUSLY INDICATED, UM, WE DID CONTINUE THIS CASE AUGUST 17TH.
UM, WE HAD A MEETING WITH INTERESTED AND ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS ON SEPTEMBER 1ST WITH US WAS THE DISTRICT THREE OFFICE PUBLIC WORKS AND ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
WE DID ADDRESS, UM, THE MAINTENANCE OF THE ROADWAYS AND CITY OWNED PROPERTY.
YOU CAN SEE HERE, UM, OLD CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD HERE IS COMING NORTH AND SOUTH, UH, SOUTHTON ROAD HERE AT THE EDGE OF OUR PROPERTY.
WE MET WITH PROPERTY OWNERS HERE, UM, AT MR. SMOSS PROPERTY.
YOU CAN SEE, UM, SINCE THEN, I BELIEVE, UH, CITY MAINTENANCE CREWS HAVE GONE OUT AND MOWED THE ADJACENT, UH, GRASS.
NEXT TO THE, TO THE RIGHT OF, UM, WE ALSO ADDRESS SOME OF OUR TRAFFIC QUESTIONS.
UM, OUR ENTRANCE AND EXITS WILL BE HERE ON SOUTHTON ROAD THAT WE DO NOT, WE WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS ONTO OLD CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD.
UM, AND ONE OF THE REMAINING ISSUES, AND ONE THAT REALLY CAME UP LAST, UH, LAST TIME WAS THE DRAINAGE.
UM, DRAINAGE YOU CAN SEE HERE IS YOU CAN SEE THE FLOODPLAIN NOT JUST ON OUR PROPERTY, BUT NORTH AND SOUTH OF US AS WELL.
HERE IS, UH, THE HIGH POINT TO THE NORTH OF US AND ON MR. SMOSS PROPERTY, UM, WHEN THERE ARE HEAVY RAINS AND INCREASED FLOW, UM, IT DOES GO FROM THIS HIGH POINT SOUTH, UM, DOWN THE FLOOD, YOU KNOW, FLOODPLAIN THROUGH OUR PROPERTY AND THEN ACROSS SOUTHTON ROAD.
UM, SO WHAT I CAN SAY TODAY IS THAT OUR CONSTRUCTION WILL NOT IMPEDE THIS, THROW THIS FLOW.
UH, WE CANNOT INCREASE THE FLOW ONTO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS' PROPERTIES, WHETHER THEY'RE TO THE NORTH OF US OR TO THE SOUTH OF US.
THIS IS OUR CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THIS, THIS IS NORTH.
SO, UM, WHEN I WAS SPEAKING ABOUT FLOW, YOU CAN SEE IT COMES FROM OLD CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD SOUTH THROUGH OUR PROPERTY AND THEN DOWN FURTHER SOUTH.
UM, THAT IS THE NATURAL FLOW DURING STORM EVENTS, UM, WE WILL HAVE FENCING BEHIND THE PROPOSED HOMES, BUT THERE WILL BE NO FENCING THAT WILL BLOCK ANY OF THE NATURAL FLOW OF WATER.
AND THERE ARE NO HOMES IN THE FLOODPLAIN.
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UM, WE WILL HAVE DETENTION BASINS, UM, THAT WILL HELP, UM, MITIGATE SOME OF THE, THE FLOW FROM OUR CONSTRUCTION SITE, BUT WE CAN'T INCREASE THE FLOW ON THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO OUR SOUTH.SO, UM, WITH THAT, I BELIEVE WE HAVE ADDRESSED MOST, MOST OF THE ISSUES FROM THE CONCERNED, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS TO OUR NORTH.
I KNOW THEY'RE HERE TODAY AND YOU WILL HEAR FROM, FROM THEM.
BUT WITH THAT, I DO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS SONY CHANGE.
UH, DO WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? YES.
MR. FELLER, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME UP HERE.
STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
I'M AT 1 3 0 6 1 OLD CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD.
AND, UH, WE ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY OPPOSED TO THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
OUR, OUR PROBLEM OR OUR CONCERN, UH, WAS WITH OF COURSE'S DRAINAGE FOR OUR PROPERTIES.
WE DIDN'T WANT, UH, WE WANTED THE DEVELOPER TO DO DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WATER DOESN'T BACK UP ON OUR PROPERTIES AND GIVE US PROBLEMS, UH, THANKS TO THE CITY.
UH, CHRIS, I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S HERE, BUT WE'VE ALREADY SEEN SOME ACTION DONE OUT THERE ON, ON THE, UH, THE RIGHT OF WAYS.
UH, BUT WE BASICALLY WANT TO BE ON RECORD AS, UH, THAT THEY DON'T PRE PRESENT A PROBLEM FOR OUR PROPERTIES IN, UH, IN THE DRAINAGE.
UH, AND THE WAY THEY'RE ADDRESSING IT, EVERYTHING SEEMS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE, BE ALL RIGHT.
THE PROPERTY BEYOND THAT HAS ALREADY LOOKS LIKE IT MAY HAVE RESTRICTED THE FLOW OFF OF THEIR PROPERTY EVEN.
SO, IF THEY DID THAT, THEN THEY'RE GONNA PRESENT A PROBLEM.
WE'RE GONNA PRESENT A PROBLEM.
SO, BUT ANYWAY, WE WANT TO JUST BE ON RECORD AS, AS, UH, BEING OKAY WITH THE, WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT WANTED TO BE CONCERNED WITH THE, UH, THE DRAINAGE SO IT DOESN'T, UH, BACK UP ON OUR PROPERTY.
AND I'M SORRY, SIR, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GIVE ME THAT NAME AGAIN.
I, I KEEP GETTING IT WRONG IN MY MIND AT THE VERY LEAST.
SO IF YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE.
1 2 9 5 9 OLD CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD.
I'M THE, UH, RESIDENT THAT LIVES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRACKS.
SO THAT CREEK IS CALLED BRUNICK CREEK.
THE CITY DID COME OUT TO MOW THE GRASS, BUT THEY WERE NOT AWARE THAT WE WERE PART OF CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
AND SO FAR ALL WE RECEIVED WAS PEOPLE FROM CITY OF SAN ANTONIO THAT ONLY WORKED FOR SAN ANTONIO FOR TWO WEEKS OR ONE WEEK.
THEN WE FINALLY GET IT STARTED GETTING PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN WITH THE COM WITH CITY OF SAN ANTONIO FOR 20 YEARS, 17 YEARS.
SO OUR MAIN CONCERN IS THE DRAINAGE.
THEY CAME OUT AND CUT, BUT WE JUST HAD THAT BIG RAINSTORM YESTERDAY, SO IT'S ALL CLOGGED ALONG THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
ANOTHER GUY CAME OUT FROM THE DRAINAGE SIDE OF CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, TOOK PICTURES, SAID HE HAD TO GET BACK WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO TO FIND OUT WHAT THEY CAN DO ABOUT THAT, WHAT WE HAVE NOT HEARD BACK FROM THAT.
SO IT STILL FLOODS IN THAT AREA.
AND ALSO, MY BROTHER THAT ACTUALLY OWNS THE PROPERTY, HE'S IN ILLINOIS.
SO WE WENT TO THE OTHER PROPERTY ON THAT, TO THE PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE GONNA BUILD ON THE 1 3 5 1 1 THAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRACKS.
THERE'S ALREADY BEEN TORN DOWN TREES IN THAT AREA.
I DON'T KNOW WHO TORE DOWN ALL THE TREES AND STUFF, BUT SOMEBODY'S BEEN ON THE PROPERTY DOING SOMETHING TO THE PROPERTY ALREADY PRIOR TO ALL THIS.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT DEVELOPMENT DID THAT.
BUT LIKE I SAID, WE HAVEN'T HEARD BACK FROM THE CITY ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE SINCE NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT US.
WE'RE OBSOLETE SINCE WE'VE BEEN AN ANNEXED IN.
AND WE, WE JUST WANNA KNOW IF SOMEBODY'S GONNA, UM, FIX THE DRAINAGE PROBLEM.
CAN WE FLOOD ALL THE TIME? AS YOU CAN SEE FROM OUR PREVIOUS PICTURES WE SHOWED IN VIDEO, AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE FLOODING ANYMORE.
MY DRIVEWAY TURNED INTO A LAKE.
SO IF I WANNA GO FISHING, I CAN GO FISHING IN MY DR.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD CATCH.
UH, I CAN CATCH B WHATEVER'S IN CLIVER.
THEY IRONICALLY
THAT'S ALL WE HAVE SIGNED IN THIS STATE.
WOULD YOU LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, NOT REBUTTAL NECESSARILY, BUT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ISSUES? UH, YES.
UM, I JUST, I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT WE DO HAVE OUR ENGINEER FROM PAP DAWSON HERE, BECKY CARROLL.
UM, SHE CAN ANSWER ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON DRAINAGE, DRAINAGE ISSUES FOR YOU.
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THANK YOU, MS. MCDONALD.UM, THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE.
SO COMMISSIONER FUENTES, YOUR SECOND FIRST CASE.
UM, WITH EVERYTHING BEING PRESENTED, UH, AND THE, IT SEEMS DUE DILIGENCE UPON THE DEVELOPER, UH, WAS MADE TO ADDRESS THE, UH, DRAINAGE ISSUES, UM, I, I WOULD MOTION TO APPROVE.
UH, BUT I, BEFORE I, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN UP TO THE, UH, BOARD FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER FUENTES COMMISSIONERS.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR STAFF OR ANY OF THE INDIVIDUALS HERE? DR.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK STAFF A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HERITAGE SOUTH SECTOR PLAN, AND I'M ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT CHANGES TO IT.
UM, AND WE HAD AN EARLIER CASE WHERE YOUR RECOMMENDATION WAS VERY CONSERVATIVE OF NOT RECOMMENDING A CHANGE THAT WAS REALLY A VERY SMALL CHANGE ON A PRETTY SMALL PARCEL.
AND NOW WE HAVE A MAJOR CHANGE ON A MAJOR PARCEL THAT'S GOING TO BRING IN OVER 600 HOMES.
SO I'D LIKE TO JUST GET A LITTLE BIT OF UNDERSTANDING OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS FOR THIS.
'CAUSE THIS IS, YOU KNOW, I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS ONE BEFORE.
A LOT OF EFFORT WENT INTO HERITAGE SOUTH SECTOR PLAN.
I THINK THIS IS A REALLY PRECIOUS RESOURCE SOMETHING, AND WE JUST ARE JUST MAKING CHANGE AFTER CHANGE TO IT.
SO THE HERITAGE SOUTH SECTOR PLAN, UM, WAS ADOPTED, UH, TO REPLACE THE CITY SOUTH COMMUNITY PLAN.
THE CITY SOUTH COMMUNITY PLAN WAS ADOPTED BACK IN 2003, 2004.
AND THE SECTOR PLANS, NORTH SECTOR PLAN, THE WEST SOUTHWEST SECTOR PLAN AND THE HERITAGE SOUTH SECTOR PLAN WERE ALL APPROVED AROUND THE SAME TIMEFRAME, UH, WITH A CONSULTANT BACK IN AROUND 2010.
SO, UM, AT THAT TIME, THERE WASN'T A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING.
AND, UM, THERE WERE SOME VERY CONSERVATIVE LAND USES THAT WERE PLACED, UH, LAND USE DESIGNATIONS THAT WERE PLACED ON PROPERTIES WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR, UH, THE COMMUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN ANYTHING COMING IN, UH, IN THE FUTURE.
IN COMPARISON WITH THESE TWO, WITH THE TWO CASES THAT YOU SAW, ONE WAS IN CLOSER PROXIMITY TO, UM, UH, MORE INDUSTRIAL USES, AND THAT WAS A CONCERN.
WE DON'T WANNA INCREASE, UH, RESIDENTIAL DENSITY IN, UH, HEAVILY, UH, INDUSTRIAL AREAS BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT RESULTS IN COMPLAINTS LATER.
UH, THIS PROPERTY IS NOT, UH, NOT ADJACENT TO OR OR NEAR, UH, LARGE INDUSTRIAL EMPLOYERS THAT WOULD GIVE US THAT SAME KIND OF CONCERN.
UM, IT, IT'S LARGELY UNDEVELOPED IN THIS AREA.
THERE'S A LOT OF AREAS THAT ARE ZONED EITHER I TWO OR ARE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, OR HAVE, UH, THE DR DESIGNATION.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE DEVELOPED AS THOSE USES, BUT, UM, AT SOME POINT THE, THE PROCESS SAW THAT MAYBE THIS WOULD BE A GOOD USE FOR SOME INDUSTRIAL EMPLOYERS, BUT THAT HASN'T HAPPENED YET.
UM, WE DO KNOW THAT THERE IS RESIDENTIAL ACROSS, UM, OLD CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD AND THE UNION PACIFIC THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL IN NATURE.
UH, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S OUR TAKE IS THAT WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT WE DO NEED HOUSING IN THIS AREA, UH, IN ORDER TO SUPPORT, UH, THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE, ARE COMING TO LOCATE INTO THAT AREA AS WELL.
I GUESS WHAT I'M NOT HEARING IN ANY OF THAT IS WHAT ARE THE PROVISIONS TO PROTECT THE FARM AND RANCH LANDS THERE? BECAUSE THAT'S A HUGE PART OF WHAT THAT PLAN WAS, WAS MEANT TO PRESERVE.
AND I'M JUST NOT SEEING THAT ANSWER ANYWHERE.
AND, AND IF THAT'S IN, IF THAT'S BEEN LEFT BEHIND, THAT'S FINE.
I, I, I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT, WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THAT GOAL TO TRY AND PROTECT FARM AND RANCH LAND? I, I REMEMBER THOSE GOALS.
UM, SO YES, ADDING MORE DENSITY, UM, HAS, HAS AN IMPACT TO, UH, AREAS THAT AREN'T, UH, DEVELOPED WITH THE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THAT, THAT LARGER DENSITY.
UM, IN THIS CASE, AS DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH IN, IN TURN HAS, UM, A POTENTIAL POSITIVE IMPACT ON THOSE FARM AND RANCH LANDS.
RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE ROADS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE TWO LANE ROADS, POSSIBLY EVEN DIRT ROADS NOT FULLY PAVED, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE, UH, SORT OF INHERITED THEM FROM THE COUNTY.
UH, AND, UM, WE, WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT THEY MAY BE ADJACENT TO SOME OF THOSE OLDER FARM AND RANCH LANDS, BUT WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THOSE FARM AND RANCH LANDS HAVE A LOT OF BUFFERING ALREADY IN THOSE PROPERTIES BECAUSE THEY'RE LARGE, UH, LARGE ACRES IN NATURE.
THIS ONE ALSO IS A LARGE PROPERTY THAT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE PLANNED IN SUCH A WAY THAT YOU CAN CARVE OUT OPEN SPACES, PERIMETERS,
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IF YOU WILL, TO HELP PROTECT BOTH SIDES FROM DEVELOPMENT.YOU CAN PROTECT THE RESIDENTIAL HOMES THAT WOULD GO IN THERE FROM THE FARM AND RANCH AND AGRICULTURAL USES, AS WELL AS PROTECT THE FARM AND RANCH AND AGRICULTURAL USES FOR MORE DENSITY.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S OUR TAKE ON IT BECAUSE OF THE LARGE AMOUNT OF LAND WE HAVE AN ABILITY TO BE FLEXIBLE IN, IT'S IN ITS PLANNED, UH, SITE PLAN.
UH, ANY FURTHER DIS UH, QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER SIPES, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR EITHER THE APPLICANT OR THE ENGINEER, AND IT'S IN REGARDS TO THE DRAINAGE.
SO WHOEVER WANTS TO HEARD A KEYBOARD.
HI, BECKY CARROLL WITH PAP DAWSON, ENGINEERS 2000 NORTHWEST LOOP FOUR 10.
AND, UM, I BELIEVE MS. MCDONALD SAID THAT THERE WILL NOT BE HOMES BUILT WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN AND YOU WILL BE BUILDING A, UM, A DRAINAGE STRUCTURE OR SOMETHING BECAUSE OF THE IMPERVIOUS COVER THAT'S BEING INTRODUCED INTO THE SUBDIVISION.
SO THERE, THERE IS, UH, WE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN WITH THE M D P APPLICATION AND DETERMINE IF THERE ARE ADVERSE IMPACTS TO ANY DRAINAGE DOWNSTREAM.
AND IF SO, UM, WE WOULD PROVIDE, UH, DETENTION PONDS.
THE ONLY OTHER STRUCTURE, IF YOU WILL, UM, WOULD BE DUE TO ANY ROADS THAT WE WOULD NEED TO PUT IN TO CROSS THE FLOODPLAIN JUST FOR ACCESS REQUIREMENTS.
SO, BUT, BUT, UH, ANY DRAINAGE STRUCTURE AT THIS TIME HASN'T BEEN DETERMINED YET? NO, NOT DEFINITIVELY.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SIPES, UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT QUESTIONS.
REMOTE COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS.
UM, I WANNA THANK COMMISSIONER ROMERO FOR BRINGING UP SOME POINTS THAT I HAD PLANNED ON RAISING AND, AND SPECIFICALLY SPEAKING TO FARM AND RANCH AND THE OTHER CASE THAT WE JUST DENIED.
UM, SO BRINGING THE STAFF'S ATTENTION, THERE IS SOME INDUSTRIAL USE PERHAPS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SOUTH ROAD, MORE TOWARDS WHERE YOU GET TO STRIKE ROAD.
AND I JUST WANNA BE SURE THAT THERE IS NO PLAN TO ALLOW ANY FURTHER DEVELOPMENT TO APPROACH UPON THAT.
'CAUSE AS WE JUST SAID, WE DIDN'T WANT A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT GETTING INTO THE INDUSTRIAL AREAS THAT ARE EXISTING AND THEN, UM, HAVE PROBLEMS THAT ARE COST.
BUT THE SECOND THING THAT I WANNA KNOW IS IF WE ARE LOOKING AT FARM AND RANCH AND WE'RE LOOKING AT LOTS AND LOTS OF ACREAGE, WHY DOES STAFF NOT REQUIRE THEN LARGER LOT DEVELOPMENT RATHER THAN GOING TO THE MAXIMUM DENSITY IF WE WANTED TO KEEP, KEEP SOME KIND OF APPROACHES AS TO WHAT YOU JUST SHARED? THAT'S A QUESTION.
UM, I KNOW, SO WE, AGAIN, WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE, UH, A MIXTURE OF RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES IN HERE FROM REES TO FARM AND RANCH TO, UM, OTHER TYPES OF DENSITIES.
WHEN WE ANALYZED THIS, WE THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE INTRICACIES OF THE CURRENT, UH, PROPERTY INCLUDING, UH, FLOODPLAIN AREAS, UM, ALLOWING FOR A LITTLE MORE DENSITY WOULD HELP, UH, TO, WOULD HELP FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO CONSERVE AREAS AROUND THAT FLOODPLAIN.
UM, AND, AND, AND SORT OF STRUCTURE THE SITE PLAN TO WHERE IT WOULD REACH ITS, ITS POTENTIAL DEN ITS POTENTIAL DENSITY IN ORDER TO, UH, BE VIABLE.
UH, SO AGAIN, BECAUSE IN OTHER WORDS, IN ORDER TO GIVE SOME, YOU NEED TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO THAT'S, THAT WAS MORE OR LESS OUR APPROACH IN OUR ANALYSIS.
OH, BUT THAT, BUT THIS HAPPENS, KAT, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, JUST ABOUT EVERY TIME THESE LARGE TRACT DEVELOPMENTS COME BEFORE US AND ACROSS THE ROAD WITH THE ONE GOING IN NOW ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 37, GOING IN WITH THE OTHER SOUTHTON ROAD DEVELOPMENTS, I MEAN THAT IT SEEMS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH STAFF.
THERE'S NEVER ANY, UH, REQUEST FOR LARGER LOT DEVELOPMENT IN THESE AREAS WHERE IT IS LARGE FARM AND RANCH.
AND WE COULD PERHAPS DO SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN STACK EVERYTHING ON TOP OF EACH OTHER OUT THERE.
AND I'M JUST GONNA POINT OUT, AGAIN, THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE ALL GREAT, BUT THESE DEVELOPERS ARE NOT PUTTING IN THE MONEY TO EXPAND THESE ROADWAYS.
WHAT WE WERE DOING IS JUST PUTTING A PROBLEM DOWN THE ROAD FOR SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE WE CAN GET BOND PROJECTS OUT THERE TO ACTUALLY DO THOSE ROAD WIDENING PROJECTS AND BIGGER DRAINAGE PROJECTS AND SIDEWALKS THAT ARE ALL GONNA HAVE TO COME IN.
AND SO I, I JUST HAVE TO GO ON RECORD STATING THAT THOSE ARE PROBLEMS THAT WILL COME WITH THESE LARGE DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS.
AND, AND I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE TALK ABOUT THAT ENOUGH.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S PART OF WHAT THE PLAN WAS INITIALLY SUPPOSED TO HELP, UH,
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RECOGNIZE AS WELL.THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER FUENTES TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND MOTION PLEASE.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT.
COMMISSIONER AB BARDOS IS THE SECOND, UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER'S TO MY LEFT DR.
I, I'M JUST INCREASINGLY UNSETTLED BY EVERYTHING WE DO WITH HERITAGE SOUTH SECTOR PLAN.
AND I DON'T MEAN TO BE NAIVE ABOUT IT 'CAUSE I REMEMBER THE HISTORY AND, AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES WITH PROPERTY RIGHTS HERE.
ALL, ALL OF A SUDDEN THESE PEOPLE WERE ANNEXED IN AND THEY'RE GIVEN FARM AND RANCH DESIGNATION AND THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT.
AND WE NEVER DID ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, BUT, AND NOW THEY HAVE THAT, AND NOW IT SEEMS LIKE THE ANSWER IS TO SAY, OKAY, THEN FOR EVERY ZONING REQUEST, WE WILL JUST SAY YES.
SO I GUESS IT'S A ROUNDABOUT WAY OF GETTING AT THE ORIGINAL PROBLEM.
AND I KNOW THIS IS NOT PLANNING COMMISSION AND IT'S ZONING COMMISSION, BUT WE'RE GETTING THESE CASES AND I, I, I JUST, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR EXPLANATIONS AND I KNOW IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT, BUT THERE'S NO RATIONALITY TO THIS PLAN.
THERE'S NO, THERE'S, THERE'S NO GUIDING LIGHT TO THIS PLAN THAT, THAT HELPS US TO MAKE DECISIONS.
IN FACT, WE'RE OFTEN ASKED TO DO THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THE PLAN SAYS.
UM, I I DON'T WANNA PUNISH PEOPLE DOWN THERE, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW I'M GONNA VOTE ON THIS, BUT I REALLY, REALLY JUST WISH THE CITY WOULD LOOK AT THIS PLAN AND REEVALUATE IT AND THINK ABOUT WHAT IT IS WE WANNA DO AND HOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GET THERE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? TO MY LEFT COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT.
REMOTE COMMISSIONERS DISCUSSION.
ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARROS.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, WE'RE GONNA DO ONE MORE AND THEN TAKE A QUICK RECESS FOR ABOUT FIVE MINUTES.
BUT IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 15, WHICH I HAVE BEEN TOLD WILL BE, I'M SORRY, ARE WE, DID I SKIP ONE
[14. (Continued from 08/17/2021) ZONING CASE Z202110700189 (Council District 7): A request for a change in zoning from "R6“ Residential SingleFamily District to "MF18" MultiFamily District on Lot P331A, NCB 15479, located at 9100 block of Old Tezel Road. Staff recommends Approval, pending Plan Amendment. (Associated Plan Amendment PA202111600058) (Catherine Hernandez, Development Services Administrator, 2102075085, catherine.hernandez@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)]
14? 14? YES.AND I JUST WANNA MAKE A QUICK ANNOUNCEMENT IF MS. MARGARET GONZALEZ IS IN THE AUDIENCE AFTER I'M DONE PRESENTING THIS, IF YOU COULD MEET ME AT THE BACK DOOR, I'D APPRECIATE IT.
ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 14 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO MF 18 LOCATED IN THE 9,100 BLOCK OF OLD TEEL ROAD.
THERE WERE 53 NOTICES MAILED, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THERE WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FEET NORTHWEST ASSOCIATION THAT WAS OPPOSED.
WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO BE AMENDING THEIR REQUEST TODAY TO AN R SIX C D FOR A NURSING FACILITY.
UH, THE EXISTING R SIX IS APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SO MAINTAINING THE BASE R SIX AND A REQUEST OF A CD CONDITIONAL USE FOR NURSING FACILITY IS APPROPRIATE.
STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
THE APPLICANT IS IN THE AUDIENCE TO CONFIRM THEIR REQUEST.
AND WE DO HAVE A SITE PLAN THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.
ALRIGHT, IF THE APPLICANT CAN COME UP, TELL US ABOUT, UH, CONFIRM THE AMENDMENT.
ALRIGHT, SO I AM GONNA CONFIRM THE AMENDMENT FOR R SIX CD FOUR NURSING FACILITY.
UM, I'M LOOKING TO BUILD TWO SMALL ASSISTED LIVING HOMES ON THE PROPERTY AND SO FAR HAVE, UH, HAD A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE AROUND THE AREA.
IT'S UH, I KNOW THEY'VE TRIED TO PUT IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS IN THAT LOT AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF OPPOSITION IN THE PAST, BUT I THINK A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS SEE IT AS A GOOD THING WITH LOW TRAFFIC AND SOMETHING THAT REALLY WILL SER SERVE THAT COMMUNITY AROUND.
WOULD YOU PLEASE TELL US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? I'M SORRY.
UH, MY ADDRESS IS, UH, 12 9 1 4 LONE STAR LEAF SAN ANTONIO.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? NO, HE WAS THE ONLY PERSON.
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SIR, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS.MY NAME IS JODY CHERYL, 83 18 BLACK CASTLE.
UM, THIS IS LIKE OLD HOME WEEK.
I USED TO OCCUPY SOME OF THOSE SEATS UP THERE IN VARIOUS CAPACITIES.
THE NORTHWEST NEIGHBORHOOD ALLIANCE WAS ORIGINALLY IN OPPOSITION TO THIS BECAUSE WE THOUGHT IT WAS AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION.
WE ARE NOW IN FAVOR OF IT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I STRUGGLED WITH WHEN I WAS ON THE ZONING COMMISSION IS YOU MAKE A ZONING CHANGE AND ANYTHING THAT'S ALLOWED IN THAT ZONING CATEGORY CAN GO IN THERE.
EVEN THOUGH YOU LIKE WHAT'S PLANNED, YOU END UP SOMETHING 5, 10, 15 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, UH, TALK TOTALLY AGAINST IT.
SO WE ARE FULLY IN FAVOR OF THIS, UH, AND SUPPORT IT WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. CHERYL AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE ON THIS COMMISSION IN THE PAST.
UM, ALRIGHT, THAT BEING SAID, THIS IS A DISTRICT SEVEN CASE COMMISSIONER SIPES TO YOU.
I HAVE NO QUESTIONS, UM, BUT I'LL SEE IF ANYONE ELSE DOES BEFORE I MAKE A MOTION.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH COMMISSIONER SIPES QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT.
SEEING NONE BACK TO YOU MR. SIPES.
ALRIGHT, UM, I'M GONNA MAKE, UH, AN EMO A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE, UH, AMENDMENT TO R SIX CD WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR A NURSING FACILITY.
UM, AND, UH, I WANT TO THANK, UH, BOTH THE APPLICANT AND, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR DOING THAT.
THAT WAS ONE THING THAT I HAD BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIND A, A WAY TO AS, AS, UH, MR. CHERYL HAD MENTIONED.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M SURE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS UP HERE KNOW THAT I ALWAYS SAY IS, WELL, WHAT COULD HAPPEN IN FIVE OR 10 YEARS.
UM, SO, SO THANK YOU FOR, FOR THAT AMENDMENT.
UM, SO THAT IS MY MOTION FOR, FOR APPROVAL ON WHAT THOSE OF US WHO LIVED OUT THERE 40 YEARS AGO WOULD CALL OLD TETZEL ROAD VERSUS TEEL.
COMMISSIONER SIPES, THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED.
ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA GO WITH COMMISSIONER WHITE THIS TIME ON THE SECOND, UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT.
SEEING NONE REMOTE, SEEING NONE.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED BY COMMISSIONER SIPES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITE ROLL CALL.
ALRIGHT, THE TIME IS CURRENTLY 2 52.
UH, THIS HEARING WILL STAND IN RECESS FOR APPROXIMATELY FIVE MINUTES.
WE WILL RETURN IN APPROXIMATELY FIVE MINUTES.
ALRIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I HAVE, UM, APPROXIMATELY 2 59 AND WE ARE BACK ON THE RECORD IN OUR PUBLIC HEARING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION
[15. (Continued from 08/17/2021) ZONING CASE Z202110700192 (Council District 1): A request for a change in zoning from "C3R HL NCD2 AHOD" General Commercial Restrictive Alcoholic Sales Historic Landmark Alta Vista Neighborhood Conservation Airport Hazard Overlay District to "IDZ1 HL NCD2 AHOD" Limited Intensity Infill Development Zone Historic Landmark Alta Vista Neighborhood Conservation Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted for "C1" Light Commercial District on the south 83.34 feet of Lots 11 and 12, Block 39, NCB 1865, located at 2602 North Flores Street. Staff recommends Approval. (Lorianne Thennes, Senior Planner, 2102077945, lorianne.thennes@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)]
STAFF.IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH I BELIEVE IS ITEM NUMBER 15, PLEASE.
ITEM NUMBER 15 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE R H L N C D TWO A H O D TO I D Z ONE HHL AND C D TWO A H O D WITH THE USES PERMITTED FOR C ONE LIGHT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 26 0 2 NORTH FLORIDA STREET.
THERE WERE 31 NOTICES MAILED, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NINE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION.
AND ALTA VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AS WELL AS BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ARE OPPOSED.
THERE WERE TWO INDIVIDUALS OUTSIDE 200 FEET THAT WERE ALSO OPPOSED.
STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE EXISTING C ONE TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE SUBJECTS, THERE IS EXISTING C ONE TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THE PROPOSED I ONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR C ONE IS A DOWN ZONE FROM THE CURRENT C THREE R STAFF.
IS THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PRESENT? MR. PETTI, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME UP, INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE.
YES, MI UH, MICHAEL PETTIS, THREE 30 MISSION STREET.
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AND, UM, TODAY I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD, UH, TO THIS ZONING REQUEST IS TO PUT, UM, I UPDATED THE SITE PLAN.EXCUSE ME, I HAVE THE EXACT WORDING HERE.
NO OUTDOOR SPEAKERS OR AMPLIFICATION SYSTEMS. SO, UH, I HAD A PRESENTATION THAT I, I SHARED WITH COMMISSIONER GR HOUSE AND, UM, A FEW OTHERS LAST WEEK.
I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT Y'ALL WERE GONNA, I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE AVAILABLE, BUT IT'S ESSENTIALLY AN OLD, IT'S A, I DID, UM, IT'S AN OLD BUILDING FROM I THINK 1924.
IT WAS AN OLD BAR BACK IN ALTA VISTA.
SO, UM, REALLY, WE REALLY WANNA BRING THIS, THIS HISTORIC, UH, BUILDING KIND OF BACK TO LIFE AS A RESTAURANT CAFE, NOT A BAR LIKE IT WAS.
UM, I DID AN OWNER INITIATED, UH, HISTORICAL DESIGNATION EARLIER MAY.
I CAME ACROSS Y'ALL Y'ALL'S DESK EARLIER IN THE SPRING.
SO I KNOW THAT NOT ONLY WITH N C D STANDARDS, I'M ALSO GONNA HAVE TO WILLINGLY GO THROUGH HISTORIC GUIDELINES.
'CAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN OLD SERVICE STATION, SO, UM, I KNOW I MET WITH, UH, THE FOLKS AT ALTA VISTA.
I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY'RE OPPOSED.
UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS? ON, ON THIS ITEM? CELIA MEN MENDOZA, MENDOZA.
UM, MS. MENDOZA, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND TELL US YOUR OPINION ON THIS PROJECT.
HI, MY NAME IS ELIA MENDOZA AND MY ADDRESS IS 9 2 7 WEST CRAIG, BUT I AM THE OWNER OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY AT 26 10 NORTH FLORES AND 26 16 NORTH FLORES.
I'M OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT AND I HAVE A, UM, A GRAPHIC.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT COULD BE SHOWN AT ALL.
IS THAT POSSIBLE? UM, 26 0 2 NORTH FLORIST IS BASED ON ITS SITE PLAN FOR THE I D Z IS, UM, WHAT THEY HAVE SHOWN IS A DUMPSTER ON THE FENCE LINE, WHICH IS FOUR FEET AWAY FROM 26 10.
SO IT'S FOUR FEET AWAY FROM MY, THE STRUCTURE, MY, WHERE MY TENANTS LIVE, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY FROM HERE TO THERE, JUST ALMOST FROM HERE TO THERE.
AND SO THAT WOULD ABSOLUTELY NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE USE OF THE FRONT PORCH BY, BY THE RESIDENTS.
UM, THE END WHERE THE PROPOSED, UM, DUMPSTER LOCATION, WHILE IT, WHILE IT IS ONLY FOUR FEET FROM MY PROPERTY STRUCTURE, IT IS AT LEE AT THE SHORTEST DISTANCE FROM THE, UH, ICE HOUSE, UM, STRUCTURE, 16 FEET.
SO IT'S FOUR TIMES THE DISTANCE.
UM, RIGHT NOW THAT FRONT PORCH IS, ITS BIG, THE BIGGEST ASSET TO MY PROPERTY.
AND THERE ARE TWO, UH, ELDERLY DISABLED VETERANS THAT LIVE THERE.
AND ONE OF THEM IS A HUNDRED PERCENT BLIND AND ABOUT 80 YEARS OLD.
THE, UM, THE I D Z ALSO EXEMPTS THE PROPERTY FROM PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
RIGHT NOW, MY TWO PROPERTIES, 26 10 AND 26 16 DO NOT HAVE OFF STREET PARKING DUE TO THE NAU SITE CONFIGURATION, THERE'S NO SPACE.
SO THESE DISABLED VETERANS RELY ON HAVING, UM, ACCESS TO THEIR RIDES RIGHT THERE ON THE, ON THE STREET CURB.
SO I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THE I D Z WITHOUT PARKING REQUIREMENTS WOULD AFFECT MY TENANT ON THAT.
THERE'S ALSO, UM, WE APPRECIATE THE NOISE RESTRICTION THAT THE APPLICANT HAS, UM, MENTIONED, BUT WE ARE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
I KNOW WE DISCUSSED IT IN PREVIOUS CASES TODAY, HOW THAT DOES AFFECT THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CAN BE DONE, UH, WITH CONDITIONAL USE.
I, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS.
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UH, THE C ONE THERE, BUT, BUT WITH A SALE OF ALCOHOL AS WELL THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO REMOVE THE, UM, RESTRICTIVE ALCOHOL ZONING TO ALLOW FOR ALCOHOL SALES AND, AND, UH, DRINKING ON SITE.WE DON'T, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE IT FITS WITHIN OUR, UH, COMFORT LEVEL AND AGAIN, SO.
UH, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, BUT I DO HAVE A CORRECTION.
WE DID GET LATE THIS AFTERNOON A, UM, LE REVISED LETTER FROM ALTA VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SAYING THEY NO LONGER OPPOSE REQUEST.
UM, MR. PETTI, IF YOU'D LIKE A MOMENT FOR REBUTTAL, I'M GONNA NEED, I'M GONNA NEED SOME ASSISTANCE.
CAN YOU PULL UP GOOGLE MAPS BY CHANCE? UH, YOU CAN PUT THE, YOU CAN PUT ONE ONE.
WHAT, WHAT IS THE, UH, UH, 26 0 2 NORTH FLORES AND THEN GO TO STREET VIEW IF YOU COULD AT THE INTERSECTION OF RUSSELL AND, AND FLORES.
FLORES? YEAH, I JUST DROPPED THAT LITTLE GUY RIGHT AT IT.
SO IT, THE, THE PROPERTY'S RIGHT ACROSS, IF YOU TURN AROUND AND YOU LOOK AT LITTLE SAM'S, GO AROUND ON RUSSELL STREET AND LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THAT DUMPSTER OVER THERE.
SO THERE IS AN UNSCREENED DUMPSTER NEXT TO A RESIDENTIAL HOME UP FRONT.
MY PROPOSED IS A SCREEN, SO IT'S SCREENED IN AND IT'S OUT OF SIGHT.
UM, THAT'S, I MEAN, IT'S THERE, SO, UM, AND I KNOW FLORES IS A MORE COMMERCIAL STREET, SO FOR S SERVICES TO PICK IT UP, IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER TO GO ON FLORES STREET THAN MORE OF A RESIDENTIAL RUSSELL STREET.
AT LEAST THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH THAT.
AS FAR AS PARKING SPACES, I KNOW IT'S ID Z IT'S A REALLY COMMUNITY KIND OF CAFE RESTAURANT.
WE'RE REALLY ENCOURAGING, UM, MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION, UH, WHETHER IT'S WALKING, BIKING, SCOOTING.
BUT ON MY SITE PLAN, IF WE GO ON THE SITE PLAN, AND I DO UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR PARKING, I GET IT.
UM, I'VE PUT PARKING SPACES ON THERE, JUST I KNOW WE'RE GONNA NEED IT, SO I DON'T WANT TO TURN IT INTO A PARKING LOT.
IF YOU CAN ZOOM IN ON THE UPPER RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE PARKING SPACES RIGHT UP ABOVE.
AND THEN IF I COULD, I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH TRAFFIC TO PUT SOME PARALLEL PARKING SPACES AT THE BOTTOM.
YOU KIND OF SEE THAT WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING ON FLORIDA AND CAROLINA, YOU CAN KIND OF CRUISE UP ONTO IT.
SO IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY TO DO THAT, THEN YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S A HISTORIC STRUCTURE.
I DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY BY PUTTING A LOT OF PARKING.
THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD DRIVEN SMALL CAFE RESTAURANT.
UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S HOW I'D LIKE TO RESPOND.
THIS IS A DISTRICT ONE CASE, SO COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE TO YOU.
UM, QUESTION FOR STAFF WITH RESPECT TO THE PLACEMENT OF THE DUMPSTER.
UM, SO THIS IS A C THREE PROPERTY.
IF WE WERE TO HAVE A BUSINESS COME IN RIGHT NOW TO HAVE TO, TO UTILIZE THIS AS A C THREE, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, A TATTOO PARLOR OR A GUN SHOP OR ANY OTHER, USE A RESTAURANT THAT CAME IN TO USE IT AS C THREE, WOULD THE CITY BE ABLE TO CONTROL THE LOCATION OF THE DUMPSTER? SO RIGHT NOW, THE CITY CANNOT CONTROL THE LOCATION OF DUMPSTERS FOR ANY PROPERTIES.
UH, BECAUSE, UH, THE, WHAT WE CAN CONTROL IS SCREENING OF THOSE DUMPSTERS, UH, BECAUSE IT'S THE COMPANY THAT WILL DICTATE WHERE THEY WANT IT PLACED.
BECAUSE IF THEY ARE TIGHT, UH, CONFIGURATIONS, THEY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN EASILY JUST STAY ON THE STREET RATHER THAN BACKING OUT BECAUSE THEY DON'T JUST LIKE OURS, SOLID WASTE, UH, TRUCKS, WE DON'T LIKE TO BACK OUT.
WE LIKE TO GO THROUGH STREETS AND CONTINUE DRIVING IN A FORWARD MOTION.
UM, SO ANY, ANY PROJECT WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DICTATE EXACTLY WHERE IT'S LOCATED.
WE CAN ONLY DICTATE THAT IT'D BE SCREENED.
AND THE C THREE, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO, UM, IMPOSE SOME TYPE OF RESTRICTION ON THE SCREENING WITH THE CURRENT ZONING OR ARE WE DOING THAT JUST BECAUSE THERE'S AN I D Z? BECAUSE WE'RE REZONING IT.
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THE ONLY REASON WHY WE WOULD BE ABLE TO RESCREEN IT TODAY IS BECAUSE THERE IS A ZONING REQUEST.UM, IF IT WOULD, IF SOMEONE WERE TO PULL A PERMIT FOR USE THAT'S PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN THE CURRENT ZONING, THERE'S NO WAY THAT WE COULD, UM, HAVE THE REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE THE N C D ONLY, UH, REGULATES A SCREENING FOR MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTIES, NOT FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER'S ON MY RIGHT QUESTIONS? YES.
SO FOR THE APPLICANT, JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU ARE PUTTING THE DUMPSTER ON THE UPPER, UH, LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE, UH, DRAWING THERE, RIGHT? CORRECT.
YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT UP EXACTLY RIGHT THERE WHERE THAT CURSOR IS SCREENED.
SO THEN YOUR, UH, THE PROPERTY BEHIND YOU, THAT'LL BE RIGHT ON THE FENCE LINE? RIGHT.
ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? THANK YOU.
OKAY, UM, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND MOTION.
UM, DO ANYTHING WITH RESPECT TO THE, UM, OKAY, THANK YOU.
UM, SO I'LL BE MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 15 WITH THE AMENDED SITE PLAN AS STATED BY THE APPLICANT.
UM, THIS HAS BEEN, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS CASE FOR A LONG TIME.
UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE APPLICANT AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT ONE OFFICE.
UM, WE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS AND I REALLY COMMEND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT FOR THEIR WORK IN TRYING TO MINIMIZE THE ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S, WE'RE GOING FROM A C THREE TO A C ONE.
SO THIS IS REALLY, UM, DECREASING THE INTENSITY OF USE OF THIS PIECE OF LAND, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY.
AND CONSIDERING THAT IT IS LOCATED, YOU KNOW, ALONG A COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR IN A LARGELY RESIDENTIAL AREA, I THINK THAT'S REALLY A WIN-WIN SITUATION.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS I STATED IN, OR AS I, I TRIED TO GET TO IN MY, IN MY QUESTIONING THIS, THE LOCATION OF THE DUMPSTER, WHILE I THINK IT IS AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY, AT LEAST WE'RE GETTING SOME SCREENING AND THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF CONTROL ON WHERE THAT'S BEING LOCATED.
UM, IF IT WAS AS STATED BY STAFF, IF WE WERE TO PULL A PERMIT NOW FOR ANY OF THE C THREE USES, THAT DUMPSTER COULD BE LOCATED ANYWHERE ON THE PROPERTY AND THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY CONTROL AS FAR AS SCREENING.
UM, ALSO A C THREE USE WOULD ALLOW FOR OUTDOOR AMPLIFICATION OR SPEAKERS.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE POTENTIALLY MORE DISRUPTION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO IN THIS CASE, UNLIKE THE PREVIOUS CASE IN DISTRICT ONE, WE DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTROL FOR SOME NOISE AND FOR SOME DISRUPTION OF THE NEIGHBORS.
SO I REALLY THINK THAT, UH, THAT THIS IS A, A GREAT OUTCOME FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND FOR THE APPLICANT.
ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED.
OKAY, I'M GONNA GO WITH COMMISSIONER DR.
OTO FOR THE SECOND, UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS.
TO MY LEFT, I JUST WANNA MAKE ONE COMMENT.
I READ THIS, UM, EXTENSIVELY AND THERE'S A VERY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THERE'S A STRONG SUPPORT FROM BOTH OF THE BIGGEST NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, BACON HILL AND ALTA VISTA.
AND I THINK THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S JUST ALTA VISTA THAT, UH, NOW SUPPORTS AT BEACON HILL.
WE HAVEN'T, UM, HEARD BACK YET TO SEE IF THEY RETRACT THEIR OPPOSITION ORIGINALLY CONDITIONAL CONDITIONAL.
THEIR, THEIR, THEIR SUPPORT CONDITION ALT I I GUESS THE SUPPORT IS CONDITIONAL, I GUESS UPON THE AMENDMENT WELL UPON THE AMENDMENT, THE DUMPSTER RELOCATION TO MEET, TO DISCUSS A BETTER LOCATION.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS, OH, I, SO WHAT I GUESS WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS THAT IT'S, IT'S CONDITIONAL SO THEY CAN CONTINUE DISCUSSIONS ON THE DUMPSTER LOCATION, BUT THEY'RE ALSO AGREEABLE TO THE, UH, AMENDED SITE PLAN.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BARDOS.
UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? ALL, UH, THERE BEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION? THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED
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WITH A SECOND BY DR.MOTION PASSES AS APPROVAL AS AMENDED.
[16. ZONING CASE Z202110700142 (Council District 2): A request for a change in zoning from "AE1 AHOD" Arts and Entertainment Airport Hazard Overlay District and "AE2 AHOD" Arts and Entertainment Airport Hazard Overlay District to "IDZ2 AHOD" Medium Intensity Infill Development Zone Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted for ten (10) dwelling units on Lots 11 and 19, Block 109, NCB 1386, located at 1712 East Commerce Street and 711 Montana Street. Staff recommends Approval. (Mirko Maravi, Senior Planner (210) 2070107, mirko.maravi@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)]
UH, STAFF BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 16, THERE ARE TWO RECUSALS ON THIS ITEM, MYSELF AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.SO I AM HANDING OVER, UH, THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE TO THE VICE CHAIR COMMISSIONER S SIPES.
I'D LIKE TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT BOTH COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAVE LEFT THE, THE ROOM.
SO IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S PRESENTATION PLEASE FOR ITEM 16.
ITEM 16 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM A E ONE A H O D AND A E TWO A H O D TO I D Z TWO A H O D WITH USES PERMITTED FOR 10 DWELLING UNITS.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1712 EAST COMMERCE STREET AND SEVEN 11 MONTANA STREET.
THERE WERE 31 NOTICES MAILED NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, EIGHT RECEIVED OPPOSED, UH, DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT AND THERE WERE 12 INDIVIDUALS OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA THAT WERE OPPOSED.
THE CURRENT AE ONE, ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT AND AE TWO ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED IDZ TWO MEDIUM DENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT WOULD ALLOW INFILL DEVELOPMENT AND A MORE UNIFORM APPROACH TO DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA, RESULTING IN 10 DWELLING UNITS WITH A PRESCRIBED SITE PLAN.
MR. CHAIR IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES.
MY NAME IS RODOLFO, UH, 9 0 5 IS NORTH FINANCIER OFFICE LIKE THAT.
UH, LIKE I SAID, UH, WE PRESENT THIS, THIS PROJECT TO STAFF.
ACTUALLY THEY RECOMMEND TO GO WITH 10 UNITS.
WE MOVE AHEAD AND, AND DID THAT.
UH, WE PRESENT THE, UM, THE PROJECT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND WE HAD HIS APPROVAL ALSO.
UH, WE WERE ABLE TO MEET WITH ONE OF THE PROS DEVELOPMENT ON THE AREA.
UH, WE WERE ABLE TO ALSO HAVE, UM, HIS, UH, SUPPORT ON THIS ONE.
AND ALSO I WANNA OPEN, UH, FOR CONTINUANCE IN CASE, UH, WE NEED TO ADDRESS ANY, ANY COMMENTS OF THE, UM, UH, ANYONE SO WE HAVE MORE TIME SO WE CAN, LIKE I SAID, ADDRESS ANY OF THOSE COMMENTS.
AND I THINK I FAILED TO ASK, UH, COULD WE GET YOUR ADDRESS? 9 0 5 NORTH PINE.
ALRIGHT, STAFF, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? YES, SIR.
WE HAVE A NU NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS.
HI, MY NAME IS DAVE RA, UH, 1702 EAST COMMERCE, UH, A AND A BODY AND PAINT IS A, UH, MINORITY WOMAN-OWNED BUSINESS.
WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 54 YEARS, SAME LOCATION.
IN 2008, WE WERE GRANTED THE DEVELOPMENT PRESERVATION RIGHTS TO BE A BODY SHOP.
AND, UH, WE DO ENCOURAGE EAST SIDE, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE NOT, WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS, UH, FAMILY DWELLINGS THAT WOULD BE, UH, AN ADJACENT TO OUR PROPERTY.
UH, THE REASON WHY IS, UH, WE FEEL THAT THE, THE PARKING WOULD BE INADEQUATE.
THERE'S FRONTAGE, WHICH PROBABLY WOULD FIT TWO CARS, UH, ON THE COMMERCE SIDE OF IT, UH, AS FAR AS THE PARKING FOR THE ON THE STREET.
UH, ALSO THERE'S AN ALLEY THAT RUNS ON THE SIDE OF THE SHOP, WHICH IS ON THE SIDE OF THE, UH, THE PROPOSED, UH,
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UH, DEVELOPMENT, UH, THAT MAKES THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, WIDTH PRETTY, PRETTY, PRETTY SMALL.UH, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING.
UH, DON'T THINK THAT THE PARKING WOULD PROMOTE, UH, PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY.
UH, I THINK IT WOULD MAKE IT WORSE.
AND ALSO, UH, WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE VEHICLES, UH, HAVING ACCESS TO SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, THAT, UH, SMALL FOR PARKING.
I'D LIKE TO MENTION THAT THE OWNER, LILY GARRA, COULD NOT BE HERE TODAY.
SO I'M TRYING TO CONVEY ALL THE CONCERNS.
UH, ANYWAY, UH, BODY SHOPS HAVE, HAVE A HISTORY AND I CAN TELL YOU FROM, UH, EXPERIENCE THAT, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF DUST FROM SANDING VEHICLES.
THERE'S A LOT OF NOISE FROM COMPRESSORS ON CONTINUOUSLY.
THERE'S A SPRAY BOOTH THAT, UH, UH, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL THE, UH, SPECIFICATIONS AND EVERYTHING, UH, THAT, UH, WOULD, WOULD STILL HAVE SOME SMELLS.
AND, AND THAT, THAT CONCERNS ME BECAUSE THERE'D BE, THESE ARE 10 FAMILY DWELLINGS THAT ARE RIGHT NEXT TO THIS.
NOW, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT PROPERTY IS ANOTHER AUTOMOTIVE SHOP.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT 10 DWELLINGS IN BETWEEN TWO AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR SHOPS.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S, UH, APPROPRIATE OR COMPATIBLE.
UM, ALSO IF, UH, THE CITY, UH, IS GIVING FLEXIBILITY TO THESE, UH, DEVELOPERS, WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING IN THE SAME AREA FOR 54 YEARS? YEAH, I'M SORRY.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE END OF YOUR TIME.
ANY, ANY OTHER JOHNNY GARRA? THANK YOU MR. GARRA.
AND IF YOU COULD GIVE YOUR ADDRESS AS WELL, PLEASE.
I LIVE AT 51 0 7 QUEEN BEST SAN ANTONIO.
I WORK AT A AND A BODY AND PAINT, BUT I AM A, A BOARD MEMBER OF THE AT AND T AND THE COLISEUM.
I AM VICE CHAIRMAN THERE AND I WORK FOR LILY GARAGE IS MY WIFE.
THE ONLY PROBLEM THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE WITH THIS NEW FAMILY, UH, FAMILY HOME EDITION, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE A STREET.
THEY HAVE TWO, THREE ALLEYS COMING INTO, TWO ALLEYS COMING FROM EACH SIDE.
ONE FROM OUR PROPERTY AND ONE FROM BEHIND US.
AND, UH, I AM WONDERING IF THEY'RE GONNA BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH EMERGENCY VEHICLES AND WHY DO THEY WANNA CROWD BUILDINGS SO CLOSE TO EACH OTHER THERE WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE THE FACILITIES FOR PARKING? AND, UH, IT, IT'S, IT'S UNFAIR FOR, FOR OUR BUSINESS.
CONGRATULATIONS TO YOUR BOARD AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
THAT'S ALL WE HAVE SIGNED IN TO SPEAK, SIR.
IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE A COUPLE MINUTES TO RESPOND? YES.
UH, SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION REGARDING, UM, IF WE, EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IS GONNA, WELL, WE HAVE THE SUPPORT WITH ENGINEERS.
SO PROTECTION FIRE, FIRE PROTECTION PLANS ARE PROVIDED WHERE WE SHOW HOW WE'RE GONNA COVER ALL THIS RE REGARDING, UH, THE HOW BY HOW WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO COVER EVERY SINGLE, UH, BUILDING EITHER WOULD SHOW THE EXHIBIT WHERE THE FIRE TRUCK OR HANDLER WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
ALSO REGARDING THE TRAFFIC FLOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TALKING WITH THE PRODUCT DEVELOPER.
LIKE, LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, UH, WHERE ACTUALLY GETTING WITH THE CITY KIND OF TO GO OVER, I KNOW THAT LIKE YOU MENTIONED, WE HAVE TWO ADJACENT ALLEYS THERE, UH, ON IMPROVE ALSO, UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE USING LIKE A, A ONE WAY AND WE'RE LEADING THE
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PEOPLE TOWARDS MONTANA BECAUSE IT IS, THERE'S LESS TRAFFIC AND WHENEVER THEY TRY TO GO OUTSIDE, WELL, LIKE I SAID, UH, IT'S GONNA BE LESS INCREASE OF TRAFFIC AND PLUS PEOPLE IS GONNA BE DRIVING, UH, SLOWER.BUT I KNOW THAT WE HAVE MORE, UH, TWO, TWO ALLEYS.
UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT LIKE, LIKE I MENTIONED, WE'RE OPEN TO KIND OF TALK WITH THE CITY JUST TO KIND OF ALLEVIATE KIND OF THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC BY THE TIME.
I KNOW THAT PROBABLY IS, IT'S NOT GONNA BE AWAY, UH, A TIME WHERE EVERYONE IS GONNA BE GETTING OUT THERE AT THE SAME TIME.
BUT WE WANNA ALLEVIATE ALL THAT FOR THE PEOPLE DRIVING TO MONTANA SO WE DON'T, UH, INCREASE, UH, A TRAFFIC IMPACT.
UH, AND LIKE I SAID, I MEAN BY THE TIME IF WE GO THROUGH THIS AND ALL THAT, UH, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE SHOW FIRE PROTECTION PLANS AND HOW WE'RE GONNA TAKE CARE OF, UH, COVERING, UM, ALL THE UNITS, UM, FOR THAT.
THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE, HOWEVER, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE HAS RECUSED HIMSELF.
SO COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, I GUESS THIS FALLS TO, TO YOU.
UM, CAN I GET A CLARIFICATION? ARE WE, I'M SORRY.
I'M SORRY, I'M LOOKING AT THE WRONG, I'M LOOKING AT THE ONE BEFORE.
THANK YOU TO MY COMMISSIONERS FOR CORRECTING ME ON THIS
UH, THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER SIPES.
UM, CAN I HAVE THE, UH, APPLICANT, UH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, AND, UH, AND THEN ANOTHER ONE FOR STAFF.
ON THE, UH, I, I CAN'T ENLARGE THE THING, BUT CAN YOU SHOW ME WHERE THE PARKING SPACES ARE ON THAT, ON THAT GENERAL MAP? SIR, HERE'S THE MIC.
IT'S MY FIRST TIME, SO LET ME SEE.
AS YOU SEE, UH, EVERY SINGLE UNIT, THEY HAVE A, A, ON THIS ONE WE HAVE TWO MODELS.
ONE, AS YOU SEE ON THIS ONE, HAVE A ENCLOSED GARAGE, AND THEN THEY BOTH HAVE, UH, THIS ONE HAS TWO PARKING SPACES FOR THIS UNIT ON.
AND PRETTY MUCH THE, THE, IT IS A DUPLEX, IT IS A MIRROR UNIT.
ON, ON THE NEXT ONE, AS YOU SEE, WE HAVE TWO ENCLOSED, UH, GARAGE SPACES WITH, UH, EXTRA, UH, TWO PARKING SPOT FOR THE UNIT OUTSIDE.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE, UH, WHICH WE DID ONE AND ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THE DESIGN OF THE HOME IS BECAUSE NOW THAT, NOW THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH, UH, PEOPLE HAS BEEN STARTING WORKING, UH, FROM HOME.
SO AS YOU SEE, AND THE ONES THAT, THAT WE ONLY HAVE ONE UNIT IS BECAUSE WE ACCOMMODATE A, A SPACE THAT IT MIGHT BE USED FOR WORK SPACE FOR THE TENANT.
SOMETIMES THEY NEED LIKE THE LITTLE SPACE FOR LIKE A LITTLE OFFICE FOR THEM NOW THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE IS, IS WORKING FROM HOME.
AND, BUT AS YOU SEE, EVERY SINGLE, UH, UNIT WILL HAVE TWO, UH, PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE FOR VISITING, OR IN CASE THEY HAVE MORE THAN ONE CAR, BUT AT LEAST THEY HAVE, UH, THEIR, LIKE, AS YOU SEE HERE, ONE CAR ON THE OTHER ONE, THEY HAVE TWO, UH, TWO CAR GARAGE AND THEN TWO, TWO PARKING SPACES, UH, FOR EACH ONE.
AND AT THE END, AS YOU SEE, WE INCORPORATE A SINGLE FAMILY UNIT, UH, USED TO KIND OF FOLLOW UP THE STREET SCAPE ON MONTANA STREET USE.
I MEAN, ACTUALLY THIS ONE IS STILL, UH, WELL, IT'S, UM, I WILL SAY IT'S COMMERCIAL, BUT STILL HAVE THE FACADE OF A, A RESIDENTIAL.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO THERE.
SO AT THE END YOU CAN, YOU CAN DRIVE AND, AND SEE KIND OF LIKE THE SAME PATTERN OF HOUSES.
AND DO YOU HAVE A FRONTAL PICTURE OF WHAT THE, WHAT THE UNITS WOULD LOOK LIKE? 'CAUSE THIS WAS THE LOWER LEVEL WE DO.
WE HAVE, UH, VENDORS, I THOUGHT THE PRESENTATION WAS HERE, BUT, UM, WE, UH, I DON'T HAVE RIGHT NOW WITH ME ANY ONE THAT I CAN SHOW YOU, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT FOR SURE, UH, WE'LL BE ABLE TO, UH, PROVIDE.
UH, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL ALWAYS DO IN OUR COMMUNITIES, UH, PRESENT, UH,
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THE RENDERING, HOW HE IS GONNA LOOK LIKE THE UNIT.UH, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING I CAN PROVIDE FOR YOU GUYS FOR SURE.
AND THEN, UH, THE OTHER THING IS HAVE YOU MET WITH THE, UH, WITH THE RAS, WITH THE, WITH THE OWNERS OF THE AUTO BODY SHOP? TO, TO, TO, BECAUSE I'VE DRIVEN BY THE SPACE, IT IS VERY NARROW.
AND I, I, I CAN'T, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO PICTURE HOW YOU COULD HAVE TRAFFIC IN AND, YOU KNOW, HOW COULD THEY EVEN GET THROUGH THE ALLEY AND THAT KIND OF THING BECAUSE IT, BECAUSE IT IS A FAIRLY NARROW, NARROW LOT.
WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO, UH, IF WE CONTINUE, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO MEET WITH THEM? FOR SURE.
TO SHOW THEM THE, THE, THE PLAN AND KIND OF ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS? 'CAUSE THE MAIN THING IS PARKING AND EMERGENCY ACCESS.
UH, AND THEN THAT WAS ANOTHER THING ABOUT, UM, UH, THE BODY SHOP REQUIRES SOME KIND OF EXHAUST FUMES SHOOT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO REDO, RECONFIGURE IF THIS WAS BUILT.
SO IF YOU COULD MEET WITH THEM THEN, THEN, THEN, AND YOU'RE WILLING TO CONTINUE THIS? UM, I AM WILLING TO MEET WITH THEM.
AND THEN I JUST HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF AS WELL.
UM, FOR EMER, BEFORE EVEN WHETHER WE APPROVE THIS OR NOT, WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS? THIS, THIS IS A PRETTY SMALL ALLEY.
TYPICALLY, THE FIRETRUCKS WILL BE ON THE MAIN STREET, AND THEN THERE'S A, A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT OF HOSE LAY.
I WANNA SAY IT'S ABOUT 500 FEET OF HOSE LAY.
SO THEY'LL, UM, THEY'LL MAKE SURE DURING THE PLAT PROCESS THAT THEY HAVE THOSE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS WHEN THEY'RE PUTTING DOWN ANY OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT THEY TYPICALLY DON'T LIKE TO GO ON ALLEYS.
UH, THEY JUST STAY ON THE MAIN STREETS AND FIGHT THE FIRE THAT WAY.
I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? NO.
COMMISSIONERS ON, UH, COMMISSIONER, WE, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR, UH, THE OWNERS OF THE A N A BODY SHOP.
UH, CAN YOU HELP ME IN YOUR PRESENTATION? UH, I DON'T REMEMBER.
YOU SAID EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE DOING IS WITHIN CODE AS FAR AS NOISE AND, AND POLLUTION.
OH, WELL, THE OSHA GUIDELINES, UH, DICTATE WHAT OUR PAINT, UH, DEPARTMENT, UH, IS SET UP.
AND, AND WHAT ARE YOUR HOURS OF OPERATION? WE'RE THERE FROM EIGHT TO SIX.
UH, AND I'M THERE SATURDAYS FROM EIGHT TO TWO.
SO WE WORK EVERY DAY, BUT SUNDAY.
AND ALSO I'D LIKE TO MENTION THAT, UH, WHERE DO THE VISITORS PARK? ALRIGHT.
UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, ANY QUESTIONS? YES, A QUESTION FOR STAFF, BECAUSE I'M, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT PUTTING A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NEXT TO A VERY HEAVY INTENSE C THREE USE, UH, INVOLVING CHEMICALS AND DUST AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
UM, IS THERE NO CONCERN FOR THAT FROM STAFF'S VIEWPOINT? SO THE CURRENT ZONING ALREADY ALLOWS FOR RESIDENTIAL, UM, DENSITY.
IT JUST, WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IS, UH, PROVIDE SOME MORE FLEXIBILITY ON THE LOT IN ORDER TO, UH, BUILD A BIGGER HOUSE AND HAVE THE APPROPRIATE DENSITY THAT THEY'D LIKE.
UH, WHAT WE LIKE TO SEE IS, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S COMMERCIAL USES, UM, 'CAUSE USUALLY YOU WON'T, YOU WON'T SEE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ADJACENT TO A HEAVIER COMMERCIAL USE AND HAVE IT BEING OWNER OCCUPIED FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE TYPICALLY HARD TO SELL AND, UM, END UP HAVING A LOT OF TENANT TURNOVER.
UH, SO YOU TYPICALLY LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE DENSITY BECAUSE THOSE ARE GOING TO BE HIGHER TURNOVER TENANTS.
UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, THIS IS SORT OF THOSE WHERE, WHERE YOU HAVE THE COMMERCIAL USE ALREADY IN EXISTENCE AND NOW YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL HOME BUYERS COMING IN AFTERWARDS AND, UH, SEEING WHAT'S ALREADY THERE.
UH, BUT THE ADDITIONAL DENSITY FOR US WOULD PROVIDE, UM, AN ADDITIONAL BUFFER TO ANY OTHER ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES AS YOU MOVE EASTWARD ON THE BLOCK.
SORRY, THAT WAS NOT, I DON'T, I DON'T GET THAT ONE, BUT, UM, OKAY.
AND SO THERE'S NO CONCERN WITH, UM, EXPOSURE TO THOSE KINDS OF MATERIALS OR ANYTHING, WHETHER IT'S
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A SINGLE FAMILY OR WHETHER IT'S A 10 UNIT DEVELOPMENT.THERE'S NO ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE AT THIS POINT? WELL, LIKE WITH ANY USE, THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE MEETING ALL OF THE CODES AND REQUIREMENTS FOR, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL MEASURES THAT THEY NEED TO MEET.
UH, NO USE WOULD BE ABLE TO VIOLATE THOSE CODES OR, OR, OR REQUIREMENTS.
RIGHT NOW WHAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT IS IF THIS IS AN AUTO REPAIR TYPE FACILITY, IS, UM, UH, JUST THE NOISE AND ACTIVITY THAT COMES FROM THAT ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL USES.
UH, BUT ANY ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS THEY HAVE TO MEET THE, THE STATE CODES AND REQUIREMENTS.
AND SO ANY CHANGE IN ZONING WOULD NOT AFFECT OR HINDER THAT, OR SHOULD NOT AFFECT OR HINDER THAT.
AND CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND, UH, FROM THE MAP, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE VERY LONG, SKINNY LOTS, BUT THE WAY THE LAYOUT IS, AND IT'S GOT COMMERCE STREET AT THE TOP, IT MAKES, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S ONE LONG DEVELOPMENT.
IS IT NOT ROTATED CORRECTLY TO SHOW THAT IT'S FITTING ON A VERY SKINNY LOT? SO THERE'S AN ALLEY IN BETWEEN THE TWO LOTS.
UM, THE, SO THE, THE MAP WILL RUN NORTH SOUTH, AND THERE'S AN ALLEY IN BETWEEN.
UH, THE SITE PLAN IS RUNNING EAST WEST, AND I BELIEVE I SEE THE ALLEY THAT'S IN BETWEEN ON THAT SITE PLAN.
IF YOU WANNA SHOW THAT WITH THE, THERE IT IS RIGHT THERE.
UM, IT'S JUST THE, THE WAY IT'S LAID OUT GOING EAST WEST ON THIS SITE PLAN.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
AND I, I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT REAL QUICK.
AND, UM, STAFF MENTIONED THAT, THAT ONE OF THEIR RATIONALE POINTS WAS THAT, UM, THERE WOULD BE A HIGHER TURNOVER.
IS ARE THESE INTENDED FOR SALE OR FOR RENT? FOR SALE.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
UM, IN VIEW OF THE CONCERNS AND THE NEED FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE VISIBILITY AS FAR AS WHAT'S GOING ON, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FOR CONTINUANCE FOR FOUR WEEKS.
THERE'S A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND MCDANIEL.
JONES, UH, CONTINUANCE BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION LEFT RIGHT, MCDANIEL? ALRIGHT.
CAN YOU STATE A DATE, PLEASE? OCTOBER 5TH, I BELIEVE THAT'D BE OCTOBER 5TH.
MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE TO OCTOBER 5TH.
AND, UH, VICE CHAIR SIPES? YES.
MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE TO OCTOBER 5TH.
AND IF WE COULD GET SOMEONE TO NOTIFY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE AND GREATHOUSE AND I AGAIN APOLOGIZE TO DR.
JONES FOR MISSING WHICH ONE?
TOO MANY NOTES RUNNING OVER INTO ADDITIONAL CASES.
COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE AND I HAVE RETURNED, UH, TO THE HEARING.
UH, STAFF, IF WE CAN GO AHEAD AND READ
[17. ZONING CASE Z202110700154 (Council District 5): A request for a change in zoning from "R5 MLOD2 MLR1 AHOD" Residential SingleFamily Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District to “IDZ2 MLOD2 MLR1 AHOD" Medium Intensity Infill Development Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted for four (4) dwelling units on Lot 16, Block 16, NCB 2785, located at 203 Hosack Avenue. Staff recommend Denial, with an Alternate Recommendation. (Mirko Maravi, Senior Planner (210) 2070107, mirko.maravi@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department) 18. ZONING CASE Z202110700172 CD (Council District 10): A request for a change in zoning from "C2 AHOD" Commercial Airport Hazard Overlay District and “C3R AHOD” General 17. ZONING CASE Z202110700154 (Council District 5): A request for a change in zoning from "R5 MLOD2 MLR1 AHOD" Residential SingleFamily Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District to “IDZ2 MLOD2 MLR1 AHOD" Medium Intensity Infill Development Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted for four (4) dwelling units on Lot 16, Block 16, NCB 2785, located at 203 Hosack Avenue. Staff recommend Denial, with an Alternate Recommendation. (Mirko Maravi, Senior Planner (210) 2070107, mirko.maravi@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)\]
ITEM NUMBER 17 INTO THE RECORD.ITEM NUMBER 17 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FIVE TO I D Z TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
THE I D Z WOULD BE FOR USES PERMITTED FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS.
THIS IS LOCATED AT 2 0 3 HOAC AVENUE.
THERE WERE 27 NOTICES MAILED, NONE
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RECEIVED IN FAVOR, 11 RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND NO RESPONSE FROM PALM HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.THERE WERE SEVEN ADDITIONAL NOTICES IN OPPOSITION FROM OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET.
STAFF FINDS EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE.
REPE REQUEST, THE PROPOSED FOUR UNITS PROPOSES DENSITY NOT ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE? YEP.
HI, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.
I LIVE IN SAN ANTONIO, 1 7 2 6 IN CRIO.
SO FIRST OF ALL, SO MY ENGLISH IS NOT GOOD, PLEASE BE PATIENT.
SO, AND I'M BE A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS.
UM, UH, I WANT TO, UH, DID, UH, DO SOME STATEMENT PRETTY FAST.
SO I LEFT MY COUNTRY SEVEN YEARS AGO, SO LOOKING FOR MY DREAM.
SO I HAVE A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS.
I'M A REAL ESTATE AGENT, AND I HAVE ANOTHER BUSINESS TOO.
SO, UM, SUDDENLY I FOUND THIS PROPERTY, UH, THREE, FOUR MONTHS AGO AND THE HOUSE IS IN TERRIBLE CONDITION.
UH, HEY, MY DREAMS COME TRUE SO I CAN DO SOMETHING, RIGHT? SO IN MY VISION OR MY, UM, MISSION STATEMENT IS, AH, THIS HOUSE IS IN BAD CONDITION.
SO, UM, THE LAW IS ENOUGH TO BUILD THREE OR FOUR, UH, TOM HOMES.
SO, UM, AND IN MY MIND IS WHY NOT TO, UH, TRY TO KEEP THE NEIGHBORS LIVING IN THE NEIGHBORS AND NOT LIVING IN OUTSIDE OF THE AREAS.
OKAY, SO, UM, I'M PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSES RIGHT NOW IN MAN, CURRENTLY BUSINESS, AND I TRY TO KEEP THE BUSINESS ON TRACK IN THE SAME WAY.
SO, UH, HOUSES LESS THAN 200,000, SO DOLLARS.
SO I THINK WE, I, I CAN DO THAT.
SO I THINK IT'S MAYBE, MAYBE IT'S NOT VERY PROFITABLE BUSINESS FOR TO, FOR, FOR ME, BUT IT'S MY FIRST TIME, SO WHY NOT TO TRY THAT? SO, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHY THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORS, UH, ARE AGAINST FOR MY PETITION.
SO I HAD A MEETING WITH MR. UM, ALAN THOMPSON, UH, IN MAY, UH, WITH ANOTHER SIX OR SEVEN NEIGHBORS TOO.
THEY ONLY HAVE, UH, ONE CONCERN, UH, THE TOWN HALLS WILL BE SOLD OR WILL BE RENTED, SO THEY DON'T TO BE HAPPY TO RENT HOUSE, YOU KNOW, SO THEY LOOKING FOR HOMEOWNERS.
SO MY PRIMARY BUSINESS IS HOMEOWNERS.
I NEVER RENT THIS PROPERTY, OBVIOUSLY, IF I HAVE A BUYER AND THIS BUYER PUTTING THE HOUSE ON FOR RENT, SO I CAN'T DO THAT, RIGHT? WHETHER THE, THE IDEA IS SELL THE HOUSE, PUT ON THE HOUSE FOR SALE.
SO I'M VERY PROACTIVE GUY, SO I VERY HAPPY TO TALK WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
SO I OFFER TALK WITH SOME OF THEM.
RIGHT NOW THEY REFUSE ME, SO I, I, I DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, TO, TO DO TOO MUCH.
UM, THE BUSINESS, PRETTY SIMPLE.
BE A FOUR TO HOUSE, 1,250 SQUARE FEET, THREE BEDROOM, ONE BATH, ONE, UH, PARKING SPOT.
I'D JUST LIKE TO NOTE VERY QUICKLY, THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN HERE EARLIER, HE COULDN'T STAY.
HE IS WITH THE, UM, BAPTIST CHURCH THERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND HE NOTED THAT, UM, THEY DON'T HAVE A FORMAL OPINION ON THE RE REZONING REQUEST AT THIS TIME, BUT THEY DID ASK IF A CONTINUANCE COULD BE CONSIDERED WHILE THEY, UM, SPEAK WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT THE REQUEST.
SO I JUST WANT, I TOLD HIM, I PROMISED HIM I WOULD NOTE THAT FOR THE RECORD.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. FLORES.
GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS, ESPECIALLY JOHN ANTE.
YES, MS. RODRIGUEZ? UH, YES, I HAVE A BIG CONCERN.
SORRY, MS. RODRIGUEZ, IF YOU OH, OKAY.
PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS.
THIS IS, UH, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE, UM, PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING ON DOING A FOURPLEX.
NOW, I WAS, UH, INFORMED THIS MORNING, EARLY THIS MORNING THAT THE APPLICANT HAS CHANGED HIS MIND.
INSTEAD OF DOING A FOURPLEX, A DUPLEX, A ONE DUPLEX BUILDING.
NOW THAT HOUSE HAS BEEN THERE FOR THE LONGEST TIME.
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THIS IS AN OLD NEIGHBORHOOD.NOW, FOR THE RECORD, WE DO NOT, UM, WE ARE NOT INVOLVED WITH THE PALM HEIGHTS, UH, ASSOCIATION.
WE ONLY ARE OUR OWN SELVES THERE WITH THE, UH, HOAC AVENUE, UH, STREET.
NOW, ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT RESIDE ON ILK, ON BLOOM AND ON HOAC, THESE ARE ELDERLY PEOPLE.
NOW MY CONCERN IS THE TRAFFIC.
WE'RE NOW HAVING A BIG FIVE STORY BUILDING CONSTRUCTED RIGHT BEHIND US.
WE HAD NO SAY SO AT THE POINT WHERE THEY ENDED UP PROPOSING THIS CONSTRUCTION FOR A FIVE STORY BUILDING BECAUSE IT WAS COMMERCIAL.
NOW WE DO HAVE A SAY SO ON THIS, UH, SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING.
WE WANT IT AS A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING, NOT AS A DUPLEX AND NOT AS TOWN HOMES.
NOW WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PARK? NOWADAYS? THEY BUY THE HOUSE.
THEY HAVE THESE KIDS COME OVER BECAUSE THEY CAN'T MAINTAIN THEMSELVES IN HAVING A JOB.
THEY HAVE TO LIVE WITH THEIR PARENTS AND SO FORTH.
THEY CAN'T PARK ON THE SIDE STREETS.
NOW, I DON'T KNOW WE NEED, WELL, I'M RECOMMENDING A CONTINUANCE BECAUSE I NEED TO SPEAK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I DID TURN IN A PETITION FORM, WHICH I HAVE 19 INDIVIDUALS AND THAT'S PRACTICALLY JUST HALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE.
THIS, THEY'RE NOT A, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE AGAINST IT.
THEY'RE OKAY TO HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.
THE PROPERTY IS, IS, IS PRETTY REASONABLE IN THE LENGTH, BUT FOR A TOWN HOME, TWO STORY, SINGLE STORY, UM, WHAT IS IT? WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY PLANS ON THIS PROJECT.
SO A CONTINUANCE TO MAKE A PROPOSAL FOR THIS WILL, WILL SUFFICE IF Y'ALL CAN ASSIST ME OR HELP ME ON THIS.
WE HAVE SOME VOICEMAILS WE'LL HAVE TO PLAY.
I LIVE IN ONE FIVE ZERO ZA AVENUE.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 845-2266.
I AM OPPOSED TO THE ZONING CASE NUMBER LAST FOUR DIGITS 0 1 5 4.
HELLO, THIS IS MICHAEL NORITZ.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (415) 661-5859.
UH, WE LIVE HERE IN SAN SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA, BUT WE'RE, WE, WERE NOTIFIED BECAUSE WE HAVE A HOUSE ON 1 5 1 JOSE AVENUE.
THIS IS REGARDING, UH, CASE NUMBER, UM, 1 5 4 2 0 3 JOSE AVENUE.
WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO THE PROPOSED CHANGE IN ZONING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND, UH, HAVE A GREAT DAY.
UH, MR. GARBO, IF YOU WANT TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE POINTS MADE, UH, IN REBUTTAL, YOU CAN HAVE A COUPLE OF MINUTES NOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
SO I'M HERE SO TO RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTION.
THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE AND SO IT IS MINE AS THE DISTRICT FIVE ZONING COMMISSIONER.
UH, MR. GARBO, I THINK FIRST, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE SEEN OR HEARD TWO PEOPLE ASK ABOUT A CONTINUANCE, UH, WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO ADDRESS SOME ISSUES HERE? YEAH.
UM, LET ME ASK ONE OTHER QUESTION.
UH, WITH RESPECT TO, UH, THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION.
DO YOU AGREE TO GO TO TWO UNITS OR DO YOU STILL WANT FOUR UNITS? SORRY.
SO TO THE, TO UH, MAKE THE POSSIBLE TO TWO UNITS, SO, OKAY, SO YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD BE AMENABLE TO THAT AS WELL.
DO WE NEED A NEW SITE PLAN GIVEN THE IDZ TWO? YES, SIR.
SO IN LIGHT OF THOSE FACTS, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU ALL KNOW WHERE I'M GOING, WHICH IS GONNA BE A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE AT THIS POINT TO ALLOW MR. BEL TO GET THAT
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SITE PLAN AND TO, UH, ADDRESS CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS AS YOU GO FORWARD.MR. GARBO, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU GET THE INFORMATION FROM MR. RODRIGUEZ TO TALK TO HER AND REACH OUT TO MR. CROON AS WELL FROM THE BAPTIST CHURCH IN THE AREA AND, AND DISCUSS MM-HMM.
UH, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
ALRIGHT, AND THAT IS, UH, MR. CHAIR? YES.
COMMISSIONER V A CLARIFICATION, WHEN YOU SAY, UH, TWO UNITS, IS THAT TWO DUPLEX UNITS OR TWO SINGLE UNITS? OH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
MY UNDERSTANDING WOULD BE THAT THAT WOULD BE TWO SINGLE UNITS, UH, BECAUSE THE TWO DUPLEXES ARE WHAT IS CURRENTLY RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL BY THE STAFF AT THIS POINT.
I MOVE FOR A CONTINUANCE OF ITEM NUMBER 17 FOR TWO WEEKS TO THE SEPTEMBER 21ST MEETING.
UM, THERE, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION,
MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE.
[18. ZONING CASE Z202110700172 CD (Council District 10): A request for a change in zoning from "C2 AHOD" Commercial Airport Hazard Overlay District and “C3R AHOD” General Commercial Restrictive Alcohol Sales Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C2 CD AHOD" Commercial Airport Hazard Overlay District with a Conditional Use for Auto, Boat, and Recreational Vehicle Storage (Outdoor/Covered) on 6.96 acres out of NCB 15831, located in the 14000 Block of Nacogdoches Road. Staff recommends Approval with Conditions. (Kayla Leal, Senior Planner (210) 2070197, Kayla.Leal@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)]
MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEM NUMBER 18.ITEM NUMBER 18 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO A H O D TO C TWO CD A H O D WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO, BOAT AND RECREATIONAL VEHICLE STORAGE.
OUTDOOR SLASH COVERED LOCATED IN THE 14,000 BLOCK OF NACODOCHES ROAD, THERE WERE 62 NOTICES MAILED.
ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ESTONIAN CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPERTY FACES NACODOCHES ROAD AND THERE ARE MANY COMMERCIAL USES ALONG THIS CORRIDOR.
SHOULD THE ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
ANY ONSITE LIGHTING SHALL BE DIRECTED ONTO THE SITE AND POINT AWAY FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL ZONING OR USES.
AND TO A TYPE B MINIMUM WITH 15 FEET BUFF LANDSCAPE BUFFER SHALL BE PROVIDED ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE.
ABUTTING R SIX ZONING STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
IS THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PRESENT MS. MCDONALD IF YOU WOULD, UH, MR. CHAIR COMMISSIONERS CAROLINE MCDONALD, BROWN ORTIZ ONE 12 EAST PECAN SUITE 1360.
I DO HAVE A, A BRIEF PRESENTATION.
UM, THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN OWNED BY THE SAME FAMILY FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS.
UM, IT'S PRIMARILY UNDEVELOPED AND THERE IS A LARGE DRAINAGE EASEMENT THAT GOES THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF IT.
UM, THE ONE-STOP G I S DID, DID LIST THE PROPERTY AS C ONE AND C TWO, BUT IS ACTUALLY C TWO AND C THREE R.
YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY THERE WITH THE DRAINAGE THAT RUNS THROUGH THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD THROUGH THE PROPERTY ONTO NACODOCHES.
UM, NEXT SLIDE ATTACHES THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN WITH A LITTLE BIT OF OUTDOOR STORAGE O OFFICES AND INDOOR STORAGE.
WE DO ACCEPT STAFF'S CONDITIONS.
WE'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY INCORPORATED THE BUFFER INTO OUR SITE PLAN AND WE'LL HAVE NO PROBLEM, UH, DIRECTING THE LIGHTING AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL USES.
WHILE THERE IS NO ESTABLISHED, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION NEAR US, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON SPRING, MOON AND SPRING COUNTRY THAT ARE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO US ON THIS SITE PLAN FOR SOME TIME NOW.
HERE'S, UH, SOME RENDERINGS SHOWING THE LANDSCAPING, FENCING AND, AND BUILDINGS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
SO IT IS WITH THAT, WE UH, I DO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST, UH, YOUR APPROVAL OF THE CHANGE TO C TWO CD FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE WITH, WITH THE CONDITIONS.
UH, STAFF, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS CASE? NO, SIR.
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COMMISSIONER WHITE.UM, THANK YOU TO THE APPLICANT FOR WORKING WITH THE CITY AND WE'VE GOT AN AGREEMENT ON THE CONDITIONS.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL OPEN IT UP TO ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT MAY.
ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL QUESTIONS NONE.
COMMISSIONER WHITE FOR DISCUSSION AND MOTION.
THANK YOU AGAIN TO THE APPLICANT AND I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 18 WITH THE CONDITIONS AS, UH, SET FORTH BY THE STAFF.
UH, COMMISSIONER PUENTES WAS THE SECOND.
SO THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS AS READ IN THE RECORD BY COMMISSIONER WHITE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT.
MOTIONS FOR APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS.
MOTION PASSES AS APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS.
[24. ZONING CASE Z202110700205 (Council District 2): A request for a change in zoning from "IDZ3 HL AHOD" High Intensity Infill Development Zone Historic Significant Landmark Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted in "C2" Commercial District, an Extended Stay Hotel, and multifamily dwelling units not to exceed 570 units to "IDZ3 HL AHOD" High Intensity Infill Development Zone Historic Significant Landmark Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted in "C2" Commercial District, an Extended Stay Hotel, multifamily dwelling units not to exceed 570 units, Bar with Live Entertainment, and a Sports Court – Outdoor on 2.90 acres out of NCB 656, located at 1008 Hoefgen Avenue. Staff recommends Approval. (Mirko Maravi, Senior Planner (210) 2070107, mirko.maravi@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)]
CAN MOVE ON TO, I BELIEVE ITEM 24.ITEM 24 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I D Z THREE A H A H O D WITH THE HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION ON IT.
UM, WITH THE USES PERMITTED IN C TWO, AN EXTENDED STAY HOTEL AND MULTIFAMILY DWELLING UNITS NOT TO EXCEED 570 UNITS.
TWO IDZ THREE H L A H O D WITH ALL THE SAME UNIT, WITH ALL THE SAME USES EXCEPT THE ADDITION OF BAR WITH LIVE ENTERTAINMENT AND A SPORTS COURT OUTDOOR.
THIS IS LOCATED AT 1 0 0 8 HOPKIN AVENUE.
THERE WERE 17 NOTICES MAILED NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO RESPONSE FROM DENVER HEIGHTS.
NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS.
THIS REQUEST IS THE SAME FOR IDZ THREE HIGH INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT WITH THE SAME PROPOSED USES IN ADDITION AGAIN TO THE BAR IN LIVE ENTERTAINMENT AND SPORTS COURT.
UH, OUTDOOR STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US ABOUT YOUR ZONING REQUEST.
MY NAME IS ATIA MITCHELL WITH PEER DEVELOPMENT L L C ADDRESS, 4,007 MCCULLOUGH AVENUE.
I'M ALSO HERE WITH THE OWNER OF BRIGHT LAKES REAL ESTATE.
UM, SO WE ARE REQUESTING TO ADD A USE FOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT.
UM, IT WAS CURRENTLY ZONED FOR INDUSTRIAL AND NOW WE'RE ALLOWED FOR THE MIXED USES.
AND SO WHAT THE OWNERS ARE CURRENTLY DOING, UM, ON THE SITE HERE, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, THEY HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT, UH, LOTS THAT THEY'RE PUTTING TOGETHER FOR A SITE PLAN.
THEY DO NOT HAVE THEIR SITE PLAN COMPLETED YET BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE VETTING TENANTS.
UH, SO THEY NEED TO HAVE THE ZONING APPROVALS BEFORE THEY CAN FIGURE OUT HOW THEY WOULD ORGANIZE THINGS AROUND THE SITE.
UM, SO CURRENTLY THEY HAVE ALREADY, UM, DEMOLISHED SOME OF THE BUILDINGS THAT WERE ON SITE AND THEY ARE PRESERVING THE HISTORIC BUILDING THAT IS CURRENTLY THERE.
SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY'RE ENVISIONING, UM, THEY'RE WANTING TO HAVE A RESTAURANT WITH SOME LIVE ENTERTAINMENT.
AND SO THE CLOSEST EXAMPLE THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH WAS SOMETHING LIKE THE RUSTIC THAT'S ALREADY UP AT, UH, 1604.
SO THESE ARE JUST SOME PICTURES WITH OUTDOOR SEATING AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GENERALLY PROPOSING WHERE THE AREA IS GONNA GO.
AND THIS IS JUST THE PICTURE OF WHAT THE AREA LOOKS LIKE NOW.
SO IT'S JUST INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS AND A LOT OF 'EM ARE JUST VACANT AND DEFACE WITH GRAFFITI.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. MITCHELL.
IS THERE ANY, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT STAFF? NO, SIR.
WE ALSO HAVE ONE LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR ONE OF THE OWNERS.
UM, THIS IS A DISTRICT TWO CASE.
UH, COMMISSIONER JONES, IT IS TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
DO ARE THERE, DO YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, PRELIMINARY PLANS, LIKE YOU SAID YOU HAD TO, UH, GET THE APPROVAL FIRST TO GET BEFORE YOU COULD MAKE THE RENDERINGS.
ABOUT HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THAT PROCESS WILL TAKE? YOU KNOW, MY NAME IS, UH, CRAIG GLENDENNING AT 37 20 SOUTH LOOP 1604 SAN ANTONIO.
AND, UM, WE HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD IDEAS ABOUT, UH,
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MAINTAINING THE, THE, UH, ENTERTAINMENT FACILITY ON THE, UH, WOULD BE THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE LOT WHERE THE, UH, WHERE THE HISTORIC BUILDING IS.AND THEN USE THE OTHER, UH, TWO ACRES FOR PARKING THAT WOULD BE ALONG THE RAILROAD AND ON, ON, UH, INDIANA STREET.
UM, WE, WE FELT LIKE WITH THE ADVENT OF THE MASKS AND, AND, AND COVID, THAT PEOPLE REALLY FEEL LIKE THEY WANNA BE OUTSIDE AND HAVE SOME MORE SPACE BETWEEN US.
SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IN MY, UH, AS A KNOWN SCOTCH IRISHMAN, I SHOULD NEVER BE IN CHARGE OF THE WHISKEY, BUT, UH, I FOUND THAT, THAT MOST OF THE PLACES THAT ARE DOING PRETTY WELL RIGHT NOW DO HAVE SOME OUTDOOR SEATING AND, UH, PEOPLE CAN, CAN, CAN GET AWAY FROM EACH OTHER.
AND, AND JUST ONE QUESTION FROM MY OWN PERSONAL, UH, FOR THE RE THE CHANGE FROM, UH, A AND E FROM ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT, DOES THAT ENTAIL, UH, OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT? YOU KNOW, THE CHANGE IT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PREVIOUS ZONING? WHY, WHY THE CHANGE SURE IS REQUIRED.
SO THE, THE, THEY'RE ADDING ONTO THE ORIGINAL REQUEST AND BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT'S A SITE PLAN AMENDMENT AND IT'S A REQUEST FOR MORE THAN THEY HAD ORIGINALLY ASKED FOR.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.
JONES, UH, TO MY LEFT QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? YES.
COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, SO YOU MENTIONED THAT, THAT YOU WERE ENVISIONING POTENTIALLY HAVING THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH WOULD BE KIND OF ALONG, IT LOOKS LIKE THE ACCESS ROAD MAYBE TO TH 37.
NO, IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY HUFFIN AVENUE.
BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE BASICALLY ALONG THE DELAWARE.
BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE ALONG THE, THE HIGHWAY THERE, CORRECT? WELL, NO MA'AM, IT'S, UH, HOUGHTON AVENUE IS BETWEEN, UM, IS IS ADJACENT TO HIGHWAY 37, BUT IT'S, IT'S A SEPARATE STREET.
BUT SO IT'S, BUT YOU'RE STILL, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY PROPERTIES ACROSS THE STREET FROM YOU THAT WOULD BE DEVELOPED.
AND I'M SORRY, I I DON'T KNOW THAT, DOES THE SITE PLAN SHOW THAT YOU ARE LIMITING AT THAT OR COULD YOUR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT BE ANYWHERE ON THE PROPERTY? WELL, IT, IT'S, UH, RIGHT NOW THERE'S ALREADY A PARKING LOT THAT'S ON THE, THE 1.9 ACRES.
SO IT'S JUST, AND WE HAVE TO PARK 'EM TOO.
SO THAT'S, AND WE CAN'T, THAT, THAT HISTORIC BUILDING IS, UH, ABSOLUTELY HANDS OFF AND I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO OUR INTENT WOULD BE TO, TO KEEP IT ON, ON THAT PORTION OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY.
QUESTION TO STAFF, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, THAT COULD, COULD BE CONTROLLED? BECAUSE I GUESS MY CONCERN IS I, I SEE THAT WE'RE, WE HAVE INDUSTRIAL ZONING ACROSS INDIANA STREET, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE POTENTIALLY HOMES.
SO, UM, CURIOUS IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT COULD BE DONE ON THE SITE PLAN IN ORDER TO PROTECT THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES FROM ANY NOISE POLLUTION? UH, THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT ON AN I D Z THREE IS JUST TO SHOW THE BUILDABLE AREA OF IT.
IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT COULD BE MORE RESTRICTIVE.
SO IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD ADD, YOU COULD ADD THAT TO THE SITE PLAN.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL QUESTION, UH, I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
UH, LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SORT OF THE RED PROPERTY THAT'S AT ISSUE HERE AND THEN TO THE RIGHT, WHICH WOULD BE THE SOUTHEAST, UH, THERE IS ANOTHER I D Z THREE PROPERTY.
IS THAT COMMONLY OWNED OR IS THAT NO SEPARATE? NO, SIR.
THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, A RECOMMENDATION CAME FROM, UH, 5 3 3 DELAWARE FROM ROSS ORMAN 5 33 DELAWARE.
I THINK THAT IS THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD.
AND SO COMMISSIONER JONES TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND MOTION.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
UM, I, AND I'M AGREEING WITH STAFF.
I'M RECOMMENDING, UH, APPROVAL OF THE, OF THE PROPOSED, UH, OR ZONING CHANGE.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
IS THERE A SECOND? UH, COMMISSIONER BARTO SECOND.
UH, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL, UH, SUBMITTED BY COMMISSIONER JONES AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS.
ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT? YES.
I I THINK THAT THIS IS, IS PROBABLY AN APPROPRIATE USE FOR THIS AREA.
HOWEVER, UM, HAVING BEEN TO THE RUSTIC AND HAVING BEEN TO SEVERAL LIVE ENTERTAINMENT VENUES,
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I KNOW THAT THERE CAN BE VERY LOUD.SO I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE HOUSES LOCATED TO THE NORTH ACROSS INDIANA STREET.
SO I, I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS IF THE, IF THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT USE WAS LIMITED TO THE SOUTHWEST AREA ON THE SITE PLAN, SO THAT THEN IF THIS, UM, WERE TO GO FORWARD OR THERE WERE TO BE A DIFFERENT OWNER, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT LIVE ENTERTAINMENT USED TO MIGRATE THEN TO THE NORTHEAST CORNER.
COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, UM, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER'S ON MY RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL DISCUSSION.
ALRIGHT, WELL, I'LL SAY, UM, NOPE, SORRY.
UM, YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, I DRIVE UP HUFFIN PRETTY REGULARLY.
THAT'S SOMEWHAT CLOSE TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, I THINK THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE USE.
I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME RESIDENTIAL USES THERE, UH, BUT I WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS WILL BE A GOOD USE AND A GOOD WAY TO REDEVELOP THAT LAND THAT'S BEEN KIND OF FALLOW FOR TOO LONG.
UH, SO THAT BEING SAID, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER REBUTTALS SUMMER.
UH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
UM, ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE LEVEL? I GOT SOME GOOD NEWS FOR YOU.
THE CITY IS ACTUALLY CONSIDERING, UH, CHANGES ON THE NOISE LEVEL ORDINANCE IN ABOUT TWO MONTHS.
IN FACT, THE COMMITTEE'S MEETING UPSTAIRS RIGHT NOW.
SO I THINK THAT ALL THOSE CONCERNS ARE GONNA BE TAKEN CARE OF.
THERE'LL BE A SPECIFIC NOISE LEVELS FOR SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD AREAS, SO THAT'S A CHANGE THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WILL AFFECT THEM.
NORTH, SAINT MARY, SOUTH TOWN, ALL THE AREAS WHERE THERE IS NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND.
SO THAT'S COMING IN ABOUT 60 DAYS THROUGH CITY COUNCIL.
AND, AND I'M AWARE OF THAT, BUT IT JUST, IT HASN'T, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT THERE YET.
SO I'M MAKING A DECISION BASED ON WHAT THE LAW IS RIGHT NOW AND CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE IN, IN OUR DISTRICT, ESPECIALLY THE, THE ST.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY CONCERN, UM, AT THIS POINT.
BUT I I, I APPRECIATE THAT INFORMATION.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BARTOS.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.
MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED BY COMMISSIONER JONES WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS.
ALRIGHT, I BELIEVE THOSE ARE ALL OF OUR CASES TODAY.
THE FINAL ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE AUGUST 17TH MINUTES.
ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONERS IS THERE, ARE
[26. Consideration and Approval of the August 17, 2021 Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes.]
THERE ANY CORRECTIONS, AMENDMENTS, ANY ISSUES WITH THE AUGUST 17TH MINUTES? UH, YES.COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? UM, I HAD A QUESTION ON, UM, I THINK IT WAS ITEM FIVE, UH, REGARDING THE SAHA, UH, REZONING DOWN THERE AND I THOUGHT THE APPLICANT AMENDED HIS, UM, APPLICATION TO ADD 1.5 PARKING SPACES FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT, BUT I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THE MINUTES.
DOES THAT NEED TO BE SPECIFIED STAFF? YEAH, WE'LL CONFIRM AND CLARIFY IT.
THANK YOU WITH THAT CORRECTION.
UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S IT.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES WITH THAT CORRECTION? SO MOVED.
AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER REBATO.
UH, WE CAN DO THIS BY ACCLIMATION, RIGHT? ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THE TIME IS 4 0 9 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.