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[2:00 p.m. – Call to Order]
IS TWO O'CLOCK ON SEPTEMBER 22ND.I AM CALLING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER JUST FOR SOUND EFFECTS, YOU ALL.
UH, DO WE HAVE A SPANISH INTERPRETER IN ATTENDANCE? GOOD AFTERNOON, INTERPRET.
MAY STAFF CONDUCT THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? UM, COMMISSIONER CAMILLA HAYES.
COMMISSIONER CHRISTOPHER GARCIA PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER ORIAN.
PRESENT COUNCILMAN COURAGE PRESENT.
CAN WE DO MADAM CHAIR? I AM ALSO PRESENT.
[Consent Agenda]
AGENDAS TODAY, A CONSENT AGENDA AND A FEW ON INDIVIDUAL.UM, ALL ITEMS ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEMS NUMBER 9, 11, 13, AND 14, WHICH ARE JUST BEING PULLED FOR PURPOSES OF RECUSAL.
ITEM NUMBER 16 HAS BEEN POSTPONED AND 23 HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.
IS THAT CORRECT? STAFF? YES, MA'AM.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? NO, NO.
RIGHT, BUT IT'S NOT, OH, YOU'RE RIGHT.
I WILL SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME.
ALL ITEMS ARE SET FOR CONSENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 9 11 13, WHICH ARE BEING PULLED FOR PURPOSES OF RECUSAL.
16 HAS BEEN POSTPONED, 23 HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.
AND, UH, WE WILL LOOK AT ITEMS NUMBER 17 AND 18 FOR INDIVIDUAL AND 14 AND 14
AND ITEM NUMBER 14 HAS BEEN PULLED FOR PURPOSES OF RECUSAL.
THE TWO FOR INDIVIDUAL ARE ITEMS NUMBER 17 AND 18.
DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA? SO MOVED.
COMMISSIONER PECK MADE THE MOTION A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CARDILLO HAYNES.
COMMISSIONER UH, CHRISTOPHER GARCIA? YES.
UM, MADAM CHAIR GONZALEZ? YES.
AT THIS TIME I WILL ASK COMMISSIONER PECK TO STEP OUT OF THE ROOM.
COMMISSIONER PECK HAS LEFT THE ROOM.
[Items 9, 11, & 13]
I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEMS NUMBER NINE 11 AND 13.ARE WE OKAY TO TAKE ALL THREE IN ONE MOTION? OKAY.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE.
COMMISSIONER SIEGEL MADE THE MOTION A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA.
COMMISSIONER CHRISTOPHER GARCIA.
COMMISSIONER PECK IN THE ROOM.
AND COMMISSIONER ORIAN IS GOING TO STEP OUT.
COMMISSIONER PECK HAS ENTERED THE ROOM AND COMMISSIONER ORIAN HAS LEFT.
[14. 2111800275: Request by Carlos Mendoza, Elevens Global Holdings, LLC, for approval to subdivide a tract of land to establish West Travis Cottages (IDZ) Subdivision, generally located northwest of the intersection of North Smith Street and West Travis Street. Staff recommends Approval. (Joshua Orton, Planner, 2102078050, Joshua.Orton@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)]
I HAVE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER[00:05:01]
14, WHICH IS BEING PULLED FOR PURPOSES OF RECUSAL? MOTION TO APPROVE.SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PROFIT.
A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA.
COMMISSIONER CHRISTOPHER GARCIA.
UH, MADAM CHAIR GONZALEZ? YES.
PLEASE WELCOME COMMISSIONER ORIAN BACK.
IT IS 2 0 6, COMMISSIONER ORIAN HAS RETURNED.
[18. (Continued from 09/08/2021) PLAN AMENDMENT CASE PA202111600072 (Council District 8): A request by Killen, Griffin & Farrimond, PLLC, representative, for Approval of a Resolution amending the North Sector Plan, a component of the Comprehensive Master Plan of the City, by changing the future land use classification from “Rural Estate Tier" to "General Urban Tier” on 16.93 acres out of NCB 18333, generally located in the 7000 Block of Heuermann Road. Staff recommends Approval. (Associated Zoning Case Z202110700218) (Mirko Maravi, Senior Planner, (210) 2070107, mirko.maravi@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)]
UP ON THE AGENDA, I'M GOING TO JUMP AHEAD TO ITEM NUMBER 18.UH, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED, UH, FOR THIS ITEM TO BE CONTINUED.
DO WE HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION? YES, MA'AM.
ITEM NUMBER 18 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RE RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN LAND USE CLASSIFICATION FROM RURAL ESTATE TIER TO GENERAL URBAN TIER.
LOCATED IN THE 7,000 BLOCK OF HERMAN ROAD.
THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A CONTINUANCE TO OCTOBER THE 13TH.
UH, THERE WERE 11 NOTICES MAILED.
ONE WAS RECEIVED IN FAVOR, TWO RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION.
FOUR RECEIVED IN FAVOR OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET 30 RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION.
AND THE FRIENDS OF SAN ANTONIO NATURAL AREA ARE OPPOSED.
THERE IS A CITIZEN SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
SAGE GIBSON, WOULD YOU STILL LIKE TO SPEAK? ALTHOUGH THIS ITEM HAS BEEN CONTINUED.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, FOR COMING TODAY.
AT THIS TIME, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION MOTION, UH, FOR CONTINUANCE TO OCTOBER 13TH.
SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PROFIT.
COMMISSIONER CARILLO HAYNES? YES.
COMMISSIONER CHRISTOPHER GARCIA.
MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE.
[17. (Continued from 09/08/2021) PLAN AMENDMENT CASE PA202111600071 (Council District 3): A request by Jose Gallegos, representative, for Approval of a Resolution amending the Stinson Airport Vicinity Land Use Plan, a component of the Comprehensive Master Plan of the City, by changing the future land use classification from “Low Density Residential" and “Parks and Open Space” to "High Density Residential" on Lot P102, NCB 10917, located in the 9400 Block of Southeast Loop 410. Staff recommends Approval. (Associated Zoning Case Z202110700214) (Roland Arsate, Planner, (210) 2073074, roland.arsate@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)]
ON THE AGENDA, WE DO HAVE THREE MEMBERS TO SPEAK ON.DO WE HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION? YES, MA'AM.
ITEM NUMBER 17 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE STINSON AIRPORT VICINITY PLAN FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND PARKS AND OPEN SPACE TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LOCATED IN THE 9,400 BLOCK OF SOUTHEAST LOOP FOUR 10.
FIVE WERE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION.
NONE WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR AND VIA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED THE PROPOSED LAND USE AMENDMENT FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND PARKS AND OPEN SPACE TO HIGH DENSITY IS REQUESTED IN ORDER TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO MF 33.
THE PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENT TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS CO A COMPATIBLE TRANSITION FOR THE R FIVE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING TO THE EAST.
THE PROPOSED HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FUTURE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION WILL ADD DIVERSE HOUSING OPTIONS TO THE SOUTH SIDE AND WILL PROVIDE A MULTI-FAMILY ALTERNATIVE.
THE PROPOSED LOCATION ALONG FOUR 10 IS ALSO APPROPRIATE.
UM, MR. GALLEGOS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION? THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
MY ADDRESS IS TWO 14 WEST ACADEMY SAN ANTONIO, 7 8 2 2 6.
UH, I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT, UH, AND IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION.
UH, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IS A LONGTIME SOUTH SIDER AND BUSINESSMAN IN THE AREA.
HE'S OWNED, UH, MULTIPLE, UH, SITES IN AND AROUND THIS AREA, UH, INCLUDING THE PROPERTY JUST DUE EAST OF SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT IS SOLD TO A, UH, A CHURCH.
AND THE, UH, UH, THE PURPOSE FOR THE REZONING, WHICH IS A DOWN ZONING INCIDENTALLY, UH, IS, UH, TO SELL THE PROPERTY.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE PROPOSED USE WOULD BE FOR, UH, AN APARTMENT, UH, HIGH-END, UH, APARTMENT COMPLEX.
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UH, APARTMENT UNITS.AGAIN, I REMIND YOU IT'S ON A, ON A HIGH-END SCALE.
UH, IS, UH, THE DEVELOPER, UH, HAS WORKED ON SEVERAL, UH, DEVELOPMENTS HERE IN THE CITY.
AND, UH, HIS REPRESENTATIVE, UH, WILL BE HERE AND SPEAKING IN FAVOR IN JUST A FEW MINUTES.
THIS IS A STRAIGHT OUT, UH, DOWN ZONING.
UH, I, I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE STAFF, UH, AND, UH, THE COUNCILWOMAN FOR THIS DISTRICT FOR THEIR, UH, UM, UH, SERVICE AND, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO, TO DIALOGUE, UH, WITH ME AND THE, UH, AND THE OWNER.
UH, THREE CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO BE HEARD.
UH, FIRST, UH, ONE, ONE LAST THING.
I NEGLECT, UH, NEGLECTED TO SAY THAT, UH, THERE ARE FIVE, UH, PETITIONS IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED, UH, DOWN ZONING THAT I TURNED IN YESTERDAY TO, UH, THE ZONING STAFF.
SO THERE IS, UH, SOME, UH, SUPPORT FOR THIS FROM THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY.
AND, AND WE DID RECEIVE THOSE VIA EMAIL.
FIRST STEP, SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
UM, MS. OLGA MARTINEZ, YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.
IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE.
HI, MY NAME IS OLGA MARTINEZ, 1522 SAN RAFAEL STREET.
UH, I'M PRESIDENT OF ILLA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND, UH, WE OPPOSE THIS GOING FROM LOW DENSITY TO HIGH DENSITY.
THE REASON BEING IS, WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS, BUT I'M JUST GONNA GO REAL FAST.
BUT WHAT I HAVE, SINCE I HAVE TWO MINUTES WITH THE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, THIS LAND WAS DEEMED LOW DENSITY IN THE STINING LA IN THE STINSON LAND USE PLAN.
IT WAS DEEMED LOW DENSITY TO ME.
IF IT'S DEEMED LOW DENSITY IN THE PLAN THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED IN 1997, IT SHOULD STAY LOW DENSITY UNLESS WE HOLD ANOTHER MEETING TO WHICH MORE THAN A HUNDRED PEOPLE ATTENDED THIS MEETING TO DO THAT CHANGE.
UM, ALSO WITH, UH, WE MET WITH MR. NOOSA.
I WASN'T ABLE TO MEET WITH THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE WE DID REQUEST HER PRESENCE AT OUR MEETING, AND SHE DID NOT COME.
I REQUESTED HER PRESENCE AGAIN IN OCTOBER, AND SHE HAS NOT RESPONDED, WHICH IS OKAY.
BUT, UM, THE THING WITH THIS, WHEN WE MET WITH MR. NOOSA, HE SAID THEY WANTED TO ZONE AT MF 33.
WELL, WE RESPECT WHAT MR. HULU GONZALEZ, THE PROPERTY OWNER SAYS ABOUT, I KNOW HE'S A GOOD CITIZEN, HE'S DONE THIS, HE'S DONE THAT, THAT'S FINE.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO PROPERTY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE INTEGRITY OF THE AREA, THE SELLER, ACCORDING TO MR. NOOSA, WOULD NOT BUY IT UNLESS IT WAS DEEMED MF 33.
AND ACCORDING TO MR. GONZALEZ IN THE MEETING, HE SAID, WHATEVER THE BUYER DOES, AFTER HE BUYS IT, THAT'S UP TO HIM.
SO THAT MEANS THAT MORE THAN 200 AND SOMETHING APARTMENTS COULD BE BUILT IN THIS AREA.
SO, UM, THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT THERE.
YOU'RE GONNA BUILD, YOU CAN BUILD UP TO 700 APARTMENTS IN THAT AREA WITH MF 33 AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE'S NOT THERE.
THE COMMUNITY IN THE MEETING, HE SAID THE COMMUNITY WAS AWARE OF IT AND THEY WERE FOR IT.
SO I TOOK IT UPON MYSELF AND ANOTHER REPRESENTATIVE TO WALK THE COMMUNITY NEXT TO IT.
WE WALKED IT, WE TALKED TO THE HOMEOWNERS.
AND THE ONLY REASON SHE DID IS BECAUSE SOME YOUNG MAN WAS CLEARING THE PROPERTY BECAUSE HE, AND HE TOLD HER APARTMENTS WERE COMING.
THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT SHE FOUND OUT.
NOW, THIS AREA IS PRE IT'S, IT'S PRECIOUS TO US.
WE HAVE A
WE HAVE, UH, SAN JUAN IN BEHIND US.
NOW, ALL I WANNA SAY IS RIGHT NOW, MA'AM, YOUR TIME IS UP.
THIS IS HUGE, AND IT SHOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT GOES BY FAST.
NEXT UP WE HAVE DAVID, DAVID ABRAM.
I APOLOGIZE IF I BUTCHERED YOUR NAME.
FIRST AND LAST NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE.
HI, MY NAME IS DAVID ABRAMS. UH, I LIVE IN, UH, AT 1 22 EAST BRANDON, UH, IN SAN ANTONIO.
UH, I REPRESENT THE, THE BUYER, ACTUALLY THE DEVELOPER, UM, IN THIS, AND A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANNA SAY.
UH, YOU KNOW, I WANNA MAKE SURE IT WAS NOTED THAT VIA CORONADO IS NOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT TO THIS PROPERTY.
HOWEVER, IN ORDER TO GET OPINIONS, THE LEADER OF VIA CORONADO WALKED THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT TO THE PROPERTY THE SAME AS OUR REPRESENTATIVES DID OR AS THE, AS THE SELLER'S REPRESENTATIVES DID.
SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ENTER INTO THE RECORD.
UH, AND IF YOU, UH, AND I LAST, UH, MONTH AT THIS, UH, SAME MEETING, I INTRODUCED, UH, SABLE DEVELOPMENT, MY CLIENT, VERY CONSCIENTIOUS DEVELOPER, UH, A VETERAN,
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AS AM I, UH, ALL OF HIS PROJECTS HAVE SOME, UH, NEXUS WITH MILITARY, UH, RECOGNITION AS WELL AS A RECOGNITION OF THE HISTORY OF THE AREA AROUND HIM.THAT'S WHY HE'S REALLY INTERESTED IN THIS, IN THIS, UH, PROPERTY.
HE'S NOT GONNA UPZONE IT TO A HIGHER DENSITY.
HE WANTS TO PUT VERY NICE GARDEN STYLE APARTMENTS AND POTENTIALLY SOME MIXED USE TO INCREASE THE OVERALL VALUE OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO INCLUDE THE PROPERTIES ADJACENT.
UM, THERE WERE SOME, UH, SOME INDICATIONS THAT TRAFFIC WAS GONNA BE AN ISSUE AND THAT THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT DOOR WAS WORRIED ABOUT TRAFFIC, UH, THROUGH THE ONE, UH, ARTERY THAT, THAT COMES INTO THE BACKSIDE OF THAT PROPERTY.
DURING THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL, THAT CAN BE WORKED OUT.
I SPOKE WITH THE DEVELOPER ON THE PHONE.
THAT CAN EASILY BECOME A GATED ACCESS WHERE ONLY PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY CAN GO IN AND OUT.
AND IT'S NOT GONNA BE A, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A PASS THROUGH.
SO IT SHOULDN'T INCREASE TRAFFIC, UH, GREATLY WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, THE, UH, UH, AND, AND THAT'S PROBABLY THE LAST THING I'D I'D LIKE TO SAY AND JUST END ON IS, UM, THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS IS, IS THE, THE BEST OPPORTUNITY WITHOUT OBVIATING THE ACTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS OF THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, TO TALK ABOUT HOW THAT NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKS.
IF WE DO, IF WE MAKE A DECISION THAT GOES AGAINST THE INDIVIDUAL'S PROPERTY RIGHTS AS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, WITHOUT GIVING THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW WHAT THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS GONNA LOOK LIKE, THAT COULD WIND UP BEING A PROBLEM.
I THINK JUST, UH, CONSCIENTIOUSLY IN MY OPINION.
UH, NEXT UP, MR. BRADY ALEXANDER.
FIRST AND LAST NAME IN YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE, SIR.
MY NAME IS BRADY ALEXANDER, 1839 EAST PYRON 7 8 2 2 3.
I REPRESENT THE HOT WELLS MISSION REACH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHICH SUPPORTS THE ILLA CORONADO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE GREATER COMMUNITY IN OPPOSING THE PROPOSED VARIANCE TO THIS PROPERTY FROM LOW DENSITY TO HIGH DENSITY.
THIS REQUEST, UM, IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE STINSON COMMUNITY PLAN, WHICH WAS DEVELOPED PRIOR TO WORLD HERITAGE DESIGNATION PRIOR TO THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION OF THE AREA BY MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE LINEAR DESCENDANTS OF THE PEOPLE WHO BUILT THE MISSIONS, PRESERVE THE MISSIONS.
AND THEIR INTEREST IS NOT MONETARY, IT IS IN PROTECTING THE HERITAGE OF THE AREA.
THEY HAVE DONE MORE THAN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO OR ANYBODY SECOND TO THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE TO ENSURE THIS AREA IS UNIQUE AND WAS ABLE TO GET WORLD HERITAGE DESIGNATION.
THIS VISION IS EVEN MORE IMPORTANT NOW WITH THE INCREASED INTEREST BY SPECULATIVE DEVELOPERS WITH THE PRIMARY INTENTION OF MAKING MONEY.
AS THE, UH, COMMUNITY HAS SHOWN THE, UH, NUMBER OF PEOPLE AGAINST IT EXCEED THE PERCENTAGE REQUIRED FOR SUPER MAJORITY AT COUNCIL, IF THIS EVEN GOES TO A VOTE, AT THAT POINT, THE SELLER HAS DISREGARDED THE COMMUNITY PLAN AND IS ASKING FOR THIS VARIANCE.
UH, HIS CONCERN IS MAKING MONEY.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE BROKER, HE'S IN THE SAME BOAT.
HE WANTS HIS COMMISSION UNDERSTAND THAT THE PURCHASER IS ABSENT.
UH, THERE'S BEEN NO DIRECT COMMUNICATION OR INFORMATION PROVIDED BY HIM.
UH, EVERYTHING SAID BY THE OTHERS ARE JUST SECONDARY HEARSAY.
AND, UH, WE'VE LEARNED MORE FROM THIS, UH, HEARING AND ALSO IN THINGS IN THE NEWSPAPER.
TWO WEEKS WAS NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR THE OWNER TO SUPPLY ANY INFORMATION OR FOR THE SCHEDULED MEETING WITH THE D THREE REPRESENTATIVE AND THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
IT SHOULD NOT HAVE BE DONE IN HASTE.
THIS NEEDS TO DO, BE, BE DONE CORRECTLY.
UM, AS TODAY, THEY SAID THREE 50 OVER 23 ACRES.
UH, WE ASK THAT YOU HONOR THE COMMUNITY PLAN TO ENHANCE THE AREA WITH LOW DENSITY, NOT DEGRADED WITH HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT.
MR. GALLEGOS, DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
FOR THE RECORD, UH, I DID MEET WITH, UH, MS. MARTINEZ, THE PRESIDENT OF THE, UH, VIA CORONADO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
I HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH HER VIA EMAIL, PHONE CALLS, AND I'VE REQUESTED ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS TO SPEAK AT, UH, HER MEETING.
UH, WE'RE TOTALLY, UH, TRANSPARENT AND WE DEFINITELY WANT TO DIALOGUE, UH, AND HEAR ABOUT THE CONCERNS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WILL BE AFFECTED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT, UH, MAY HAVE.
SO, UH, UH, I THINK IT, UH, IT REALLY IS SOMEWHAT PREJUDICIAL TO SAY THAT, THAT WE HAVE NOT, UH, MADE AN EFFORT THANKS TO, UH, THE COMMISSION TO ALLOW US TWO WEEKS.
DURING THOSE TWO WEEKS, UH, ALSO REACHED OUT TO BROOK CITY BASE AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVES,
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UH, SO THAT THEY COULD BE, UH, IN THE DIALOGUE AND IN THE PLANNING OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, UH, AS A, UH, UH, STAKEHOLDER IN IT.ALSO, THE SAN ANTONIO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT WAS REACHED OUT.
UH, AND ALSO I'M IN DIALOGUE WITH THEM.
SO, UH, I THINK WE'VE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND WE'VE MADE A CONCENTRATED EFFORT, UH, ON MEETING THE CONCERNS OF THE RESIDENTS.
UH, AS WAS INDICATED, TRAFFIC SEEMS TO BE THE MOST, UH, UH, OBJECTIVE ISSUE.
AND I THINK THAT THAT COULD BE RESOLVED AT THE TIME THAT THE, THE SITE PLANS, UH, WILL BE DEVELOPED.
UH, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I PRAY THAT, UH, YOU DO THE RIGHT THING AND VOTE APPROVAL OF THIS PLANNED AMENDMENT.
UM, BEFORE WE TAKE COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS, I DO JUST WANNA REMIND THE COMMISSION THAT TODAY WE ARE DISCUSSING LAND USE.
WE ARE NOT DISCUSSING, UM, ZONING.
UH, HOWEVER, LAST TIME WE DID APPROVE A CONTINUANCE FROM, UM, MY OPINION, UM, I KNOW THAT I WAS IN FAVOR OF A CONTINUANCE TO ALLOW FOR MORE COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
THANK YOU FOR RECAPPING WHO YOU HAVE REACHED OUT TO.
UH, AND THEN ZONING HAS AL ALSO APPROVED A CONTINUANCE.
UM, BUT AGAIN, JUST A REMINDER THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING THE LAND USE, UH, TODAY.
UH, NOT THE PLATING, UH, AND NOT ZONING.
UH, FOR COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YEAH, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION ON THE CASE.
I WAS JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE, UH, NEW STREETS THAT WOULD COME TO THE AREA.
COMMISSIONER SIEGEL, THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONER PECK, NO QUESTIONS FOR ME.
COMMISSIONER PROFIT, NO COMMENTS, NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER GARCIA? UH, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
RIGHT NOW, IT'S, IT'S ZONED INDUSTRIAL, BUT THE LAND USAGE CATEGORY IS LOW DENSITY TO RESIDENTIAL.
THAT'S A MISMATCH, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND SO DOES THAT MEAN BY RIGHT, SOMEBODY COULD JUST SET UP SOMETHING THAT'S IN AN INDUSTRIAL, UH, CATEGORY? YES, SIR.
UH, WE HAD A CONCERN ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.
WHEN DOES THAT GET TAKEN CARE OF AND ADDRESSED REGARDLESS OF WHAT GETS BUILT ON THERE? RIGHT.
THERE'S STILL SEVERAL STEPS, THE PLATTING, UH, BUT IT WOULD BE DURING THE DEVELOPMENT PHASE OF THE PROJECT THAT THEY WOULD LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT AND THE, UH, THE PLATTING OF THE PROPERTY AND ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT NEED TO BE MET.
SO THAT'D BE LATER ON DURING THE PROCESS WHEN THOSE THINGS, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED AT SOME POINT, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
UM, JUST REAL QUICK FOR MY INFORMATION, WHAT WOULD BE THE MOST DENSE ZONING ALLOWED UNDER THE LOAD DENSITY RESIDENTIAL CATEGORY UNDER LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL? THE MOST DENSE IS R FOUR.
UM, SO HOW MANY ACRES IS THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING? 23.3190, CAN YOU, CAN YOU COME TO THE MICROPHONE, SIR? YEP.
UH, SER SURVEY, UH, WAS RECENTLY COMPLETED.
UH, THERE WAS AN UNRECORDED SALE OF A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY ON THE WEST ALONG THE ASAKIA TO THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE.
AND SO THE, THE PROPERTY, UH, SIZE IS MORE, IS CLOSER, LIKE 20.4.
UM, I, I HAVEN'T SEEN THE UPDATED SURVEY SINCE THEY IDENTIFIED THAT QUESTION, UH, ALONG THE WEST.
BUT, AND THAT'S ANOTHER THING I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE RECORD, IS THAT FROM THE CENTER OF THE SEIA TO 30 FEET, UH, UH, EAST, ALL THE WAY ALONG THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE IS, IS NOW THE PROPERTY OF THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE.
SO THERE'S NO, UH, AND THEN THERE'S A SETBACK FROM THERE WHERE, WHERE THE DEVELOPER WILL BE ABLE TO BUILD AND HIS INTENT IS TO BUILD TRAILS ALONG THERE AND, AND REALLY MAKE THAT PART OF THE, YOU KNOW, A, A FLOW INTO THE NATIONAL PARK ESSENTIALLY FOR, FOR RESIDENTS.
SO IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A GOOD PLAN.
'CAUSE I WAS, PART OF MY QUESTION WAS THE, UM, I KNOW THE SAN JUAN DITCH THAT'S LOCATED THERE TO THE WEST IS PART OF THE ASAKIA AND, UM, WITH A HERITAGE DESIGNATION, I KNOW THAT THAT ALL PLAYS INTO IT.
SO, UM, WHEN STAFF, CAN YOU TELL ME WHEN, UM, THE STINSON VICINITY LAND USE PLAN IS UP FOR, UM, UPDATES? THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO, UH, DETERMINE FROM OUR COUNTERPARTS IN PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
I DON'T THINK I GOT A RESPONSE BACK YET, BUT AS YOU KNOW, WHEN IN YOUR BRIEFING AND WORK SESSION, THEY ARE WORKING ON THE DIFFERENT VARIOUS AREAS OF, UM, THIS SA TOMORROW PLAN.
SO I, I'M NOT SURE KATT, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY MONTHS OUT THEY ARE? UM,
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SO WITH THE PANDEMIC, THERE WAS A PAUSE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY PLANS, UH, REQUIRE COMMUNITY INPUT.AND SO OVER THE PAST YEAR THEY'VE HAD TO, UH, DELAY SOME AND ADJUST SOME OF THEIR PHASES.
I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS EITHER PHASE THREE OR FOUR, SO IT'S GONNA BE A, A COUPLE YEARS OFF, UH, BEFORE THEY, THEY GET TO THAT AREA.
BUT THERE WAS A PAUSE BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC.
SO, UM, UM, I MISSED THE, THE BRIEFING.
SO IS THAT YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S A COUPLE MONTHS OUT UNTIL WE GET TO THE STINSON PLAN UPDATE A COUPLE YEARS OUT BEFORE WE OKAY.
IF IT'S PHASE THREE OR PHASE FOUR, IT'S GONNA BE A COUPLE YEARS OUT
UM, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PROCESS AND WE DO LIKE TO INCORPORATE THE COMMUNITY.
AND PART OF MY QUESTION WAS THE OUTREACH WITH THE COMMUNITY, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE DEVELOPER HAS, HAS DONE THAT.
UM, SO I JUST WAS WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT, UM, HAS BEEN DONE.
AND THEN SO ZONING, DID I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY THAT ZONING, UM, LOOKS LIKE THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO TAKE THIS UP YESTERDAY AND THEY DID, DID THEY POSTPONE IT AS WELL? YES, THEY CONTINUED IT TO OCTOBER THE FIFTH.
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
UM, ONE CLARIFICATION FOR STAFF.
GIVEN THE INFORMATION THAT WE GOT FROM THE APPLICANT, UH, DO WE NEED TO REVIEW THE SITE THAT IS BEING PROPOSED? UM, SO I THINK, CHRISTIE, YOU SAID 23 ACRES AND HE WAS MENTIONING 20 ACRES.
AND SO DO WE NEED TO AMEND WHAT WE'RE REVIEWING? AS LONG AS THEY SUBMIT AMENDED FIELD NOTES WILL BE ABLE TO REDUCE THE ACREAGE.
THE ONLY ISSUE WILL BE IF WE HAVE TO INCREASE ACREAGE, THEN THEY'LL HAVE TO RESTART THE PROCESS.
SO WE WILL BE SURE TO, UH, GET THOSE FIELD NOTES FROM THEM.
BUT BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT HE GAVE, THE DIFFERENCE IN THE NUMBER OF UNITS BASED ON A DENSITY OF 33 UNITS PER ACRE IS WITH THE ACREAGE HE NOTED OF 20.4 673 UNITS.
AND WITH 23.319 ACRES, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE IN THE STAFF REPORT, THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 770 UNITS.
AND TO, TO CLARIFY, IF WE TAKE ACTION ON THAT 23 ACRES TODAY, AND IT IS A DIFFERENT OWNER FOR THAT ADDITIONAL ACREAGE, IT WILL NOT, UH, CHANGE OR, UM, IT WILL NOT CHANGE THE LAND USE IF IT'S A DIFFERENT OWNER.
IS THAT CORRECT? NO, BECAUSE MOVING FORWARD WE WILL GO WITH, UH, WITH THE 20.4 ACRES.
COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
UM, THIS IS FOR THE, UM, FOR STAFF.
SO THIS, THIS SITE, UH, GOING FROM A LOW DENSITY TO A HIGH DENSITY IS GOING TO INCREASE TRAFFIC.
UH, THERE'S ACCESS TO A FOUR 10 X PATROL, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S, IT'S ALSO TOUCHING TWO OF THE EXISTING PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS THAT GO INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND WITH 500, 600 UNITS, WOULD THAT WARRANT A TRAFFIC LIGHT AT THAT INTERSECTION? THAT'S SOMETHING FOR OUR TRAFFIC DIVISION, UH, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO ASSESS.
I MEAN, IT COULD BE A POSSIBILITY, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE WAYS TO LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC, ESPECIALLY AS, AS THE APPLICANT NOTED WHERE, UH, THAT PORTION THAT IS NEAREST THE NEIGHBORHOOD COULD PERHAPS BE GATED AND ONLY FOR RESIDENTS.
THOSE KINDS OF, UH, ALTERNATIVES COULD BE DISCUSSED WHEN THE THEY DO THEIR TRAFFIC REVIEW.
AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION I HAVE IS, SO WE ALSO HEARD TESTIMONY FROM THE APPLICANT THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN DOING MIXED USE.
UM, BUT HIGH DENSITY RESIDENT RESIDENTIAL ONLY ALLOWS MULTIFAMILY ZONING.
UH, AND IT SEEMS LIKE A MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WOULD ALLOW RM FOUR, FIVE, AND SIX AND ALLOW MF 18, WHICH THAT, THAT ACREAGE WOULD STILL GET HIM 367 UNITS.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO JUST, UH, BRING UP TO THE REST OF THE COMMISSION THAT IF WE TAKE ACTION ON THIS TODAY, IT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION TO GO TO A MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, UH, TO MEET THE TESTIMONY OF MIXED USE AND ALSO BE MORE OF A, UH, A COMPROMISE ON THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF UNITS.
UH, I THINK COMMISSIONER ORIAN TOUCHED ON SOME OF THE ISSUES I THINK I WANTED TO RAISE.
UM, BUT FIRST OFF QUESTION FOR STAFF IS, WOULD FOUR 10 BE CONSIDERED A MAJOR ARTERIAL? IT'S CONSIDERED A HIGHWAY.
SO WOULD THAT BE EVEN MORE INTENSIVE THAN A MAJOR ARTERIAL? YES.
AND SO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ADJACENT TO A MAJOR? IT IS SOMETIMES THERE, BUT, UH, IDEALLY THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THE BEST PLANNING.
SO FROM FROM THE DESCRIPTION, THIS FORM OF DEVELOPMENT REFERRING TO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL SHOULD NOT TYPICALLY BE LOCATED ADJACENT TO MAJOR ARTERIALS? THAT WOULD BE CORRECT.
SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF, A COUPLE OF INCONSISTENCIES HERE.
THE I ONE ZONING, WHICH IS NOT LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ADJACENT TO A MAJOR HIGHWAY, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
SO RIGHT NOW THE LOW DENSITY PLANNING IS INAPPROPRIATE, IT'S WITHIN THE PLAN, BUT IT'S INAPPROPRIATE FOR
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ITS LOCATION AND THE ZONING? YES.THANK YOU FOR THOSE QUESTIONS.
UH, I DO WANT TO JUST KIND OF REITERATE AGAIN A COUPLE, UH, COMMENTS THAT I ALREADY MADE.
SO AGAIN, THANK YOU MR. GALLEGOS FOR, FOR THAT OUTREACH THAT Y'ALL CONDUCTED.
UM, Y'ALL DID SO IN A QUICK TURNAROUND IN, IN TWO WEEKS, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
UH, A 1997 PLAN, IN MY OPINION, IS, UM, DRAMATICALLY DATED
UM, BUT I DO WANNA KIND OF BRING ATTENTION TO THE SURROUNDING REGIONAL CENTERS.
AND SO THE NEARBY REGIONAL CENTER IS THE BROOKS REGIONAL CENTER, UM, WHICH HAS BEEN FORMALLY ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL AS WELL.
UH, ALTHOUGH THIS IS NOT TECHNICALLY IN THAT REGIONAL CENTER, IT IS VERY IN, IT IS, UM, IN CLOSE PROXIMITY.
AND SO A LOT OF WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT REGIONAL CENTER, AND, AND ACTUALLY MOST OF THEM IS A, UH, A FOCUS ON HOUSING.
AND SO, UH, A MIXED USE OR TYPE, UM, A MIXED VARIATION, EXCUSE ME, OF HOUSING, SINGLE FAMILY, UH, MULTIFAMILY AND WHATNOT.
AND SO I DO THINK THIS FITS WELL, UH, WITH THAT.
ANOTHER REGIONAL CENTER, CENTER THAT IT IS NEARBY IS ALSO THE A AND M, UM, REGIONAL CENTER.
AND SO AGAIN, CONSISTENT, WE DO NEED HOUSING.
WE DO NEED A, A VARIETY OF HOUSING.
UM, I DO ECHO THE COMMENTS MADE BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE THAT THIS IS OFF OF, UM, LOOP FOUR 10, UM, WHICH AGAIN MAKES SENSE ON A, ON A MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTY.
UH, AND THEN JUST TO REITERATE THAT WE STILL HAVE A PROCESS TO GO THROUGH, AND SO THE PLATING PROCESS IS STILL, UH, TO COME.
AND SO A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC ISSUES, INGRESS, EGRESS, SAFETY, ALL OF THAT, UH, WILL COME AND, AND I ASSURE, UH, THAT THE STAFF, UH, WORKING IN COORDINATION WITH THE, THE DEVELOPER AND THE APPLICANT WILL ADDRESS A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS? I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, I WANNA THANK COMMISSIONER BUSANTE FOR HIS, UH, COMMENTS REGARDING THE, UM, ALIGNMENT WITH THE PLAN AND MAKING SURE WE ARE BEING PRUDENT.
SO, I, I ACTUALLY HAD A QUESTION FOR YOU.
SO, IF LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS NOT, UM, APPROPRIATE NEXT TO A HIGHER DENSITY OR HIGHER CATEGORY OF AN ARTERIAL, UM, IS IS MULTI OR IS, UH, HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL APPROPRIATE, OR MAYBE STAFF COULD ANSWER THAT
UM, WHAT, WHAT IS APPROPRIATE IS WHAT I'M ASKING.
WHAT IS APPROPRIATE ALONG, UM, A MAJOR CORRIDOR LIKE FOUR 10? RIGHT.
SO, UM, IN, IN GENERAL, THESE ARE TYPICALLY, UH, THE TYPES OF USES YOU DO FIND ALONG OR NEAR MAJOR ARTERIAL ARTERIALS OR COLLECTORS OR HIGHWAYS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TRAFFIC CAN GET ONTO THE HIGHWAY AND OFF OF THE HIGHWAY MORE QUICKLY.
AND THIS IS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE MORE RESIDENTS, UH, MORE POTENTIAL FOR UNITS.
SO IT IS APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A HIGHER DENSITY ALONG THESE TYPES OF ROADWAYS.
IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 17.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PROFIT.
COMMISSIONER CARRILLO HAYNES? YES.
COMMISSIONER CHRISTOPHER GARCIA.
COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA? YES.
UH, MADAM CHAIR GONZALEZ? YES.
AND AGAIN, I JUST ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO CONTINUE TO KEEP THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY AND, AND THE NEIGHBORS INFORMED THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE PROCESS.
MADAM CHAIR, JUST A POINT OF, I GUESS, INFORMATION FOR EVERYONE AS THEY HEAD TO ZONING.
THERE ARE NON ZONING OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO YOU TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS, AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DISCUSS THOSE SUCH AS DEEDED RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE NOT PART OF THIS PROCESS, NOT PART OF ZONING, BUT CAN ADDRESS MANY OF THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS.
CAN STAFF CAN CLARIFY WHEN IT'S GONNA ZONING.
OKAY, THAT CONCLUDES, THAT CONCLUDES OUR AGENDA.
[24. Consideration and Approval of the September 8, 2021 Planning Commission Minutes.]
IS THE MINUTES.ANY REVISIONS ON THE MINUTES? I ACTUALLY HAVE, UM, A QUESTION WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH ROLL CALL.
MAYBE I, I WAS NOT INCLUDED ON THE PRESENT.
I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO BE INCLUDED ON THE PRESENT PIECE FOR MINUTES OR IF IT'S ASSUMED.
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IT'S ASSUMED IT'S OKAY.ANY OTHER REVISIONS TO THE MINUTES HEARING? THEN I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
UH, COMMISSIONER CARRILLO HAYNES.
I WAS NOT PRESENT FOR THE MEETING.
UH, COMMISSIONER CHRISTOPHER GARCIA.
HOW MANY COMMISSION COMMISSIONERS DO WE HAVE HERE? I WAS GONNA ABSTAIN, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET ENOUGH VOTES SO WE'LL HAVE ENOUGH.
I'LL ABSTAIN 'CAUSE I WASN'T HERE EITHER.
UH, COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA? YES.
UH, MADAM CHAIR GONZALEZ? YES.
UH, MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL.
AND WE HAVE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
UH, AGAIN, JUST WANTED TO REITERATE, UH, THE, WE WILL HAVE A, UH, MORE COMPLETE BRIEFING, UH, FOR YOU REGARDING PLANNING COMMISSION APPOINTEES.
WE'RE JUST WRAPPING UP A COUPLE EXTRA THINGS WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
UH, AND AGAIN, JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH THE COMMITTEE THAT WE WILL HAVE, UH, PARDON ME WITH THE COMMITTEE THAT WE WILL HAVE A BRIEFING FOR YOU ON OCTOBER 13TH REGARDING THE CITY'S 2021 U D C AMENDMENT CYCLE.
UH, IT'S A MAJOR EVERY, NORMALLY EVERY FIVE YEAR INITIATIVE.
WE'RE TACKLING IT ON THE SIXTH YEAR AS IT WAS POSTPONED DUE TO THE COVID PANDEMIC.
UH, BUT WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION TO SHARE WITH YOU, UH, AT THE NEXT Q.
AND IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, IF YOU CAN EXPRESS YOUR INTENT TO EITHER APPLY OR NOT, UM, TO, TO STAFF SO THAT THEY'RE AWARE, UM, AS THEY WILL BE RELEASING THE APPLICATIONS TO APPLY FOR PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO IF THEY CAN JUST BE INFORMED ON WHERE YOU ALL STAND.
UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED.