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ARE WE THERE YET FOR, UM, STARTING THE MEETING? UH, I, LET ME CONFIRM WITH, UH, OUR AV GROUP THAT WE ARE SET.
WE ARE READY WHENEVER Y'ALL ARE.
WELCOME TO OUR FIRST TAC MEETING IN A WHILE AS WE GET RAMPED UP FOR ANOTHER UNFILLED ADVENTURE DOWN U D C LANE.
[Call to Order]
TODAY, UM, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO, IT IS, UH, NINE OH FOUR.I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
WOULD THE, UH, STAFF PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL.
PRESENT? MR. JACKSON? MR. SIPES? HERE.
MS. WRIGHT? MS. FAIRMONT PRESENT.
MS. TACKETT? SHE'S LOGGING ON IN A MINUTE.
UM, MR. LEASEMAN, HOW DO YOU SAY THAT? MR. PLA? ARMAND.
MR. ESTRADA? PRESENT? MR. MANNA PRESENT? MR. CHERYL? MS. REED? HERE.
MS. DALE? MR. NICKS? OH, MR. NICKS? YES.
MS. TACKETT? MR. PIT HERE IS A QUORUM PRESENT.
UM, NEXT ITEM IS, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ABOUT ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA OR ANY OTHER ITEM THAT CAN DO SO.
NOW, IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
[1. Nominations and elections for Chair and Vice Chair]
SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS.UM, THE MAIN PURPOSE OF TODAY'S, UH, MEETING IS TO REVIEW, AS YOU'VE SEEN ON THE AGENDA, JUST TO REVIEW THE, UH, U D C A AMENDMENT PROCESS OF BRIEFING FROM STAFF AND HOW THAT PROCESS IS GONNA WORK, THE DATES INVOLVED, AND LENGTH OF TIME AND COMMITMENT AND WHATNOT.
UM, SO THAT'LL BE THE MAIN PURPOSE OF TODAY'S MEETING.
BUT, UH, ITEM NUMBER ONE OF NEW BUSINESS TODAY IS ACTUALLY, UH, NOMINATING, UM, AN ELECTIONS FOR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR OF THE TAC FOR THE NEXT, UH, HERE.
SO, UM, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I WILL TURN THE MEETING OVER TO STAFF SO THEY CAN, UM, HANDLE THAT PART.
UH, SO, UH, AS, UH, MR. PECK POINTED OUT, UH, FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, NOMINATIONS AND ELECTIONS FOR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.
I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT THERE ARE NO, UH, LIMITATIONS ON THE NUMBER OF TERMS, UH, THAT ANYONE CAN SERVE,
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UH, AS CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR ON THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE.SO, AT THIS TIME, I CAN TAKE NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIR.
HEY, LOGAN, THIS IS ROBERT HENLEY.
I THOUGHT THE THOUGHT WAS THAT THE STAFF WAS GONNA EXTEND EVERYTHING BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF MEETINGS IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF DUE TO THE PANDEMIC.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO START THE PROCESS, UM, I UNDERSTAND.
SO, WE, WE HAD GONE THROUGH A PROCESS TO UPDATE THE TAC BYLAWS TO ALLOW THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO EXTEND CERTAIN PERSON'S TERMS, BUT THAT WOULDN'T, UH, THAT WAS SEPARATE.
FROM THE NOMINATION OF CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.
DO WE HAVE ANY NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIR LOGAN, CAN YOU BRIEFLY DESCRIBE, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, UH, ACCORDING TO THE BYLAWS, THE CHAIR IS A PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER, CORRECT? YES.
AND THE, THE CHAIR, AND THEN THE VICE CHAIR CAN BE ANYONE FROM THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE TECH, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.
IN THAT CASE, I NOMINATE GEORGE PECK TO CONTINUE ON AS CHAIR OF THE PC TECH.
UH, WITH THAT WE CAN, UH, ENTERTAIN A, A, JUST A, A VOICE VOTE.
UM, THOSE IN FAVOR A AYE, AYE.
UH, GEORGE PECK WILL SERVE ANOTHER TERM AS CHAIR OF THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
I CAN NOW ACCEPT NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR.
UM, I WILL NOMINATE, UH, JULIA CARILLO FOR VICE CHAIR.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? OKAY.
SO, UH, JUST AS WE DID FOR CHAIR, WE CAN ENTERTAIN A VOICE.
JULIA CARRILLO, UH, WILL SERVE, UH, THE TERM FOR VICE CHAIR OF THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR THAT, THAT WAS QUICK AND EFFICIENT.
[2. Discussion and Briefing of the 2021 UDC Amendment Process]
MOVING ON TO THE MAIN PART OF THE MEETING.ITEM NUMBER TWO IS, UH, DISCUSSION AND BRIEFING OF THE 2021 U D C AMENDMENT PROCESS.
UH, SO WE DO HAVE A, A COUPLE, UH, SEVERAL SLIDE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.
IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE JUMP IN, STOP ME.
UM, BUT WE DID WANNA BRING, UH, A BRIEFING BEFORE YOU, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW HOW THIS PROCESS IS GONNA PLAY OUT.
UH, CAN WE DO THE NEXT SLIDE? ALRIGHT.
UH, SO WE HAD, UH, KICKED OFF THE U D C AMENDMENT PROCESS BACK IN 2020.
UH, THE, THE U D C HAS TYPICALLY UPDATED EVERY FIVE YEARS, 2005, 20 10, 20 15.
BUT WE HAD TO POSTPONE THAT PROCESS DUE TO THE PANDEMIC.
UH, THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, UH, IS CHAPTER 35 OF THE CITY CODE.
THOSE TERMS, UH, CAN BE USED INTERCHANGEABLY.
UH, OUR CURRENT U D C, UH, AT LEAST THE, THE VAST MAJORITY OF IT WAS ADOPTED IN TWO, 2001.
UH, IT WAS THE THIRD, UH, U D C THAT THE CITY HAS ADOPTED.
WE HAD A MAJOR UPDATE IN 1965, AND MOST RECENTLY IN 2001.
AND THE U D C SERVES TO IMPLEMENT A NUMBER OF CITY POLICIES AND GOALS, UH, AS IDENTIFIED IN THE, THE VARIOUS PLANNING DOCUMENTS ON YOUR SCREEN, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, MASTER PLAN, CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, ET CETERA.
UH, I DO WANT TO TAKE A ONE BRIEF STEP BACK HERE AND CLARIFY THAT THE U D C AMENDMENT PROCESS IS SEPARATE FROM THE ADOPTION OF THE BUILDING CODES.
UH, THAT PROCESS WILL BE HAPPENING IN 2022.
I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT THE U D C AND BUILDING CODE ADOPTION HAVE COINCIDED WITH ONE ANOTHER.
UH, BUT THIS, UH, U D C IS REALLY ABOUT GETTING LAND PREPPED FOR DEVELOPMENT, WHEREAS THE CODES ARE ABOUT THAT VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION.
SO, UH, IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN THIS PROCESS AS WELL, WE'LL HAVE INFORMATION, UH, AVAILABLE.
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YOU OVER TO THE FOLKS, UH, THAT ARE THE EXPERTS ON THESE CODES.UH, BUT JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT THIS IS A, A DIFFERENT PROCESS.
UH, AGAIN, A LITTLE MORE BACKGROUND ON THE U D C.
UH, IT INCLUDES DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS FOR A LOT, UH, OF DIFFERENT ITEMS. EVERYTHING FROM HOW DO WE, UH, SUBDIVIDE PARCELS OF LAND, UH, TO ZONING REGULATIONS, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO VERY SPECIFIC REGULATIONS, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE ACCESSIBLE DWELLING, OR, UH, PARDON ME, ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS PERMITTED, UH, SHORT-TERM RENTAL REGULATIONS.
UH, THAT'S, THAT'S RELATIVELY NEWER TO OUR CODE.
UH, BUT OTHER ITEMS SUCH AS, UH, STREET AND STORMWATER DESIGN STANDARDS, UH, HISTORIC PRESERVATION, AND THEN THE PROTECTION OF NATURAL RESOURCES, UH, IN CYCLES, UH, U D C AMENDMENT CYCLES.
IN THE PAST, I THINK WE'VE HAD AMENDMENTS SUBMITTED ON ALL OF THE ITEMS ON THE SCREEN, AND I THINK THAT WE'RE, WE'RE CERTAINLY ANTICIPATING THAT THAT WILL BE THE CASE AGAIN THIS YEAR.
UH, SO AGAIN, WHY DO WE AMEND THE CODE? UH, OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO, UH, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT EVERY COUPLE YEARS TO, UH, INCREASE WORKABILITY, UH, TO INCREASE ADMINISTRATIVE EFFICIENCY, UH, ALSO TO ELIMINATE UNNECESSARY DEVELOPMENT COSTS.
AND THE, THE LAST ITEM HERE, OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO MAKE CHANGES TO OUR CODE TO REFLECT CHANGES IN STATE LAW.
EVERY TWO YEARS IN TEXAS, WE GO THROUGH A LEGISLATIVE CYCLE.
UH, INVARIABLY THERE ARE LAWS PASSED THAT, UH, THAT AFFECT US LOCALLY THAT AFFECT THE DEVELOPMENT INDUSTRY, AND WE NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR THOSE CHANGES.
AND WE ALSO NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR CHANGES IN TECHNOLOGY.
IF YOU WERE TO GO BACK 15 YEARS, 20 YEARS AGO, CERTAINLY, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NOT A WHOLE LOT OF DISCUSSION, FOR INSTANCE, ON WHERE OR HOW ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS SHOULD BE PERMITTED.
WHAT IS A REASONABLE, UH, REGULATION THAT IS BECOMING A VERY PREVALENT TECHNOLOGY TODAY? UH, SO WE HAVE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE OUR CODES TO ACCOUNT FOR CHANGES, UH, IN, IN TECHNOLOGY AS WELL.
UH, THE AMENDMENTS THEMSELVES, UH, CAN BE SUBMITTED BY CITY STAFF.
UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES HAS PROPOSED, UH, 58 AMENDMENTS IN THIS CYCLE.
UH, THE, UH, ZONING COMMISSION PLANNING COMMISSION BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND H D R C, UH, CAN SUBMIT AMENDMENTS, UH, AS CAN CITY COUNCIL.
UH, THE ONE, UH, THAT THE, THE NEXT SLIDE WILL FOCUS ON IS EXTERNAL PARTIES.
SO, IF WE CAN JUMP OVER TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
UH, EXTERNAL PARTIES COULD BE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, BUSINESSES, UH, ANY CITIZEN OF THE CITY CAN SUBMIT A U D C AMENDMENT.
UH, THERE'S A, A LITTLE BIT OF AN EXTRA PROCESS FOR THOSE EXTERNAL AMENDMENTS.
UH, THEY HAVE TO BE RULED EITHER AN EDIT, UH, BEING DEFINED AS HAVING NO IMPACT TO THE INTENT OF THE PROVISION, UH, OR A CLARIFICATION, UH, OR ELSE, UH, SOMETHING ALREADY COVERED BY A R ISSUED BY THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, OR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER.
UH, ULTIMATELY IT IS THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT HAS THE SAY ON, IF A SUBMITTED AMENDMENT IS AN EDIT, A CLARIFICATION, OR EXISTS ALREADY IN A R.
UH, IF, IF THE TAC DETERMINES THAT THE EXTERNAL AMENDMENT DOES NOT FALL INTO ONE OF THOSE THREE CRITERIA, UH, IT IS THEN PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, THE, THE ENTIRE PLANNING COMMISSION BODY, UH, WHO HAVE TO VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT TO SPONSOR THAT AMENDMENT FOR IT TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE PROCESS.
JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT, IF WE WERE TO LOOK BACK AT THE 2015 U D C AMENDMENT CYCLE, WE RECEIVED 296 PROPOSED AMENDMENTS.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKDOWN, THE, THE MAJORITY OF THOSE 184 WERE SUBMITTED FROM CITY DEPARTMENTS.
UH, ULTIMATELY OF THE TWO HUNDRED NINETY SIX, TWO HUNDRED AND FIVE WERE APPROVED.
I THINK THAT, UH, THE GENERAL CONSENSUS, UH, IS THAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING MORE AMENDMENTS, UH, THIS GO ROUND.
UH, HOW MANY MORE OF COURSE WE HAVE HAS YET TO BE DETERMINED.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S CERTAINLY BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT SECTIONS OF THE CODE THAT NEED TO BE UPDATED.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN YEAR SIX, NOT YEAR FIVE.
SO THAT ALONE WILL PROBABLY, UH, LEND ITSELF TO A, A LARGER NUMBER OF SUBMITTED AMENDMENTS.
SO, AGAIN, REAL QUICK OVERVIEW ON HOW THIS PROCESS IS GONNA PLAY OUT.
UH, THE U D C AMENDMENT, UH, IS A, IT'S A LENGTHY PROCESS.
IT'S, IT'S A YEAR LONG, UH, AND THEN THE TRAINING STARTS.
SO WE OPENED UP THE APPLICATION WINDOW, UH, TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, UH, OCTOBER 1ST.
UH, WE WILL LEAVE THAT WINDOW OPEN UNTIL FEBRUARY 1ST.
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MONTHS FOR FOLKS TO SUBMIT THEIR AMENDMENTS.UH, WE ARE MEETING WITH STAKEHOLDER GROUPS.
WE'RE GOING OUT TO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS.
WE'RE HAVING COMMUNITY MEETINGS TO INFORM AND EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON THE PROCESS TO GET THOSE AMENDMENTS SUBMITTED.
UH, ONCE THAT APPLICATION WINDOW CLOSES, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE WILL MEET IN FEBRUARY AND INTO MARCH, UH, AGAIN, TO DETERMINE IF EXTERNAL AMENDMENTS ARE AT ITS CLARIFICATIONS OR NEITHER THAT FIRST TTAC MEETING, OR IF THOSE FIRST SEVERAL TAC MEETINGS ARE REALLY ONLY TO DO THAT, IS IT AN EDIT A CLARIFICATION OR NEITHER THE ONES THAT ARE NEITHER? WE'LL GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION TO DETERMINE IF PLANNING COMMISSION WANTS TO SPONSOR THOSE AMENDMENTS.
AND THEN ON OUR NEXT SLIDE, ONCE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DETERMINE WHICH THEY'D LIKE TO SPONSOR, THEN THAT FINAL SET OF AMENDMENTS GOES BACK TO TAC APRIL THROUGH JUNE.
THESE ARE THE REALLY LENGTHY, YOU KNOW, ONCE, SOMETIMES TWICE A WEEK MEETINGS TO, UH, WORK THROUGH THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE IN EACH AMENDMENT.
WE'LL INVITE THE FOLKS THAT SUBMITTED THOSE AMENDMENTS, WHETHER THEY'RE CITY DEPARTMENTS, EXTERNAL PARTIES, TO THOSE MEETINGS.
SO THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEFEND THEIR PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, UH, BEFORE THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
AND, UH, WHEN THAT PROCESS IS CONCLUDED, THE TAC WILL FORWARD THEIR RECOMMENDED, UH, AMENDMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
SO ALL OF THE AMENDMENTS WILL GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
ITEMS THAT AFFECT ZONING WILL GO TO THE ZONING COMMISSION.
ITEMS THAT AFFECT THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT WILL GO TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
UH, WE ENVISION, UH, OCTOBER BEING THE MONTH, OCTOBER, 2022, UH, BEING THE MONTH THAT WE TAKE THE FINALIZED SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE OF CITY COUNCIL.
THAT'S A GROUP OF FIVE, UH, OF THE SITTING CITY COUNCIL PERSONS, UH, AND THEN ULTIMATELY TO THE FULL CITY COUNCIL BODY FOR CONSIDERATION.
UH, ONCE WE HAVE THE LIST OF FINALIZED AND APPROVED AMENDMENTS, UH, WE, UH, START OUR TRAINING PROGRAM, UH, TO, YOU KNOW, FOR STAFF, FOR OUR, UH, STAKEHOLDERS, FOR OUR COMMUNITY GROUPS, SO THAT EVERYONE IS ON THE SAME PAGE.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE ARE LOOKING INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF, OF MAYBE DELAYING THE START DATE OF THOSE AMENDMENTS, UH, UNTIL JANUARY ONE TO GIVE SOME TIME FOR PEOPLE TO LEARN WHAT THE AMENDMENTS ARE.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU WERE TO GO BACK TO 2015, THE, THE FINALIZED LIST OF CODES THAT WERE STRUCK OUT, UH, UH, NEW REGULATIONS OR, OR CLARIFICATIONS, THAT DOCUMENT WAS ALMOST 700 PAGES LONG.
UH, SO WE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S AMPLE TIME TO ADJUST, TO LEARN THE NEW CODES, UH, BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WE JUST, OKAY, THEY'RE APPROVED.
AND, AND THE VERY NEXT DAY, EVERYTHING CHANGES AGAIN, THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS.
WE WILL CONTINUE, UH, TO DO A LOT OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
UH, WE ARE, UH, PREPARING A SURVEY THAT CAN GO OUT TO THE PUBLIC SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF GAUGE WHERE, UH, FOLKS THINK THERE MAY NEED TO BE SOME ATTENTION, UH, SPECIAL ATTENTION PAID TO UPDATES WE HAVE ALREADY, AND WILL CERTAINLY CONTINUE TO, UH, USE OUR, YOU KNOW, EMAIL BLASTS, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA THROUGH NEXTDOOR, A COUPLE OTHER PLATFORMS AS WELL, TO MAKE SURE FOLKS ARE AWARE OF, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESSES.
UH, LAST SATURDAY, WE HELD OUR FIRST D S D ACADEMY, UH, WHERE WE INVITE FOLKS FROM THE PUBLIC IN ON A SATURDAY MORNING, UH, TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS, ANSWER QUESTIONS, UH, COMMUNITY MEETING.
I, BEFORE I MOVE ON, I SHOULD SAY WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING ONE D S D ACADEMY A MONTH, UH, THROUGH THIS PHASE WHILE WE HAVE THE APPLICATION WINDOW OPEN.
UH, WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS TO KEEP FOLKS INFORMED OF, YOU KNOW, PHASE ONE IS HOW DO YOU SUBMIT AN AMENDMENT? AND THEN AS WE MOVE INTO PHASE TWO, WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING COMMUNITY MEETINGS TO UPDATE THEM ON, YOU KNOW, HERE ARE THE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED.
HERE ARE THE AMENDMENTS THAT TAC IS RECOMMENDING.
HERE'S THE OUTCOME OF BOARD AND COMMISSION MEETINGS.
UH, LIKE OUR MEETING TODAY, UH, OUR MEETINGS WILL BE LIVE STREAMED, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC THAT CAN'T MAKE IT DOWN TO THE BUILDING TO ATTEND IN PERSON.
UH, THEY DO HAVE THE OPTION TO LOG IN ONLINE AND, AND HEAR AND LISTEN IN ON THE DISCUSSION.
UH, AND THEN OUR WEBSITE, UH, IF YOU WERE TO GO TO DSDS WEBPAGE RIGHT NOW, CENTER OF THE SCREEN, BIG BOLD LETTERS, U D C AMENDMENT PROCESS, UH, REALLY A WEALTH OF INFORMATION AVAILABLE, UH, INCLUDING, UH, OUR TRACKING LIST OF THE AMENDMENTS SUBMITTED.
UH, WE WILL UPDATE THAT LIST AFTER EACH T UH, TO INCLUDE INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, RELATED TO TAX RECOMMENDED, OR PARDON
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ME, WHAT TAX RECOMMENDATION IS.UH, SO THAT, UH, ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY WITH PARTICULAR INTEREST ON A SPECIFIC AMENDMENT CAN LOG IN, SEE THE LATEST DISCUSSION ON THAT PARTICULAR AMENDMENT.
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE LINKS TO THE SECTION OF CODE THAT IT AFFECTS.
UH, YOU, THERE'S A HYPERLINK TO THE APPLICATION THAT WAS SUBMITTED EXPLAINING WHY, UH, THE AMENDMENT, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM THE APPLICANT IS, IS A GOOD IDEA OR WHY IT'S NEEDED, UH, AS WELL AS THE TEXT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY MODIFY THAT PARTICULAR SECTION OF CODE.
SO, LOTS OF OUTREACH ALREADY, AND THAT WILL CERTAINLY CONTINUE, UH, THROUGH THE U D C AMENDMENT PROCESS.
UH, I'M NOT GONNA, I, I KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THIS ALREADY, SO I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANNA REHASH IT, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT KIND OF FOUR PHASES.
WE ARE VERY MUCH SO IN PHASE ONE, WE'RE TRYING TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ABOUT THE PROCESS.
AND THEN AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE WILL SHIFT OUR FOCUS, UH, TO MAKING SURE PEOPLE ARE AWARE, UH, WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THOSE TECH MEETINGS.
PHASE THREE IS MAKING SURE THE COMMUNITY IS AWARE OF, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FORMAL, UM, DECISION, WHETHER THAT BE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, UH, AND ULTIMATELY THE FINAL DECISION FROM CITY COUNCIL.
AND THEN WE'LL WORK OUR WAY INTO TRAINING, UH, LATE 2022.
SO THAT IS, UH, THAT IS MY, UH, BRIEF PRESENTATION.
UH, WE'RE CERTAINLY HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I THINK THAT, UH, THERE, THERE MAY BE A, A DESIRE TO TALK ABOUT THE TAX SCHEDULE AS WELL.
UH, WE CAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
WE CAN PULL UP THE CALENDAR, UH, BUT WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL HAVE.
MR. CHAIR, WE CAN, REAL QUICK, UH, THIS IS MELISSA EZ LOGAN, CAN WE PULL UP THE WEBSITE? I WANNA JUST, I KNOW YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT IT.
I JUST WANT THE NUMBERS TO SEE, UH, THE LOCATION OF, UM, THE CALENDAR THAT'S AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
UM, ALSO, UM, THIS IS OUR FRONT PAGE HERE.
UM, IF YOU CLICK ON THIS LINK, IT'LL TAKE YOU TO OUR U D C AMENDMENT PAGE.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, AMENDMENT TRACKING SYSTEM HERE.
THIS IS WHAT LOGAN WAS REFERENCING.
THIS WILL ACTUALLY SHOW ALL THE U D C.
IF YOU RECALL, THERE WERE SOME THAT WERE IN THE QUEUE, IF YOU WILL, UH, IN 2020.
NO MOVEMENT HAS HAPPENED AS WE, UH, PAUSED, AS LOGAN MENTIONED.
UM, BUT WITHIN THIS, YOU, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THE ACTUAL U D C AMENDMENT THERE THAT LAUREN IS HIGHLIGHTING, AND THEN ALSO THE ACTUAL U B C AMENDMENT THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE TRACK CHANGES.
AND THESE ARE COMING DIRECTLY FROM THE APPLICANT ALONG WITH THIS ON THE SPREADSHEET, YOU'LL SEE TO THE RIGHT, THE, UH, MEETING LIST.
LAUREN WAS TOO QUICK FOR ME, UH, THE MEETING LIST TO THE RIGHT OF ALL THE MEETINGS THAT WILL BE HELD.
AND THEN WE'LL IDENTIFY DATES AND OUTCOMES, UM, WITHIN THAT AREA TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE ALL AWARE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING.
OF COURSE, Y'ALL WILL BE, UH, NET DEEP IN THE PROCESS.
SO, UM, WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR TIME AND DEDICATION TO THIS.
LAUREN, IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE WEBSITE REAL QUICK.
UM, THE CALENDAR OF EVENTS IS ON HERE.
THAT'S GONNA BE A WEALTH OF INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC.
IT'S GONNA IDENTIFY ALL OF OUR MEETINGS THAT WE'RE HAVING.
WE'RE HAVING MEETINGS ALREADY.
WE'RE EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ON THE PROCESS AND PROCEDURES ON HOW TO SUBMIT U D C AMENDMENTS.
UH, WE'RE MEETING WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, SO THE PUBLIC OUTREACH IS HAPPENING ALREADY.
UH, AND, UH, AS LOGAN MENTIONED, THE WINDOW TO SUBMIT A D C AMENDMENT, UH, THE LAST DAY TO SUBMIT A D C AMENDMENT IS FEBRUARY 1ST.
SO THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME JUMP IN THERE.
UM, MR. CHAIR, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE GROUP ABOUT THE PROCESS? THE CALENDAR? MR. CHAIR, THIS IS CONNIE.
UH, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR LOGAN.
UH, AS FAR AS, UH, THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS GO, UM, IS THE DIGITAL TEAM BY ANY CHANCE USING SOME, ANY EXTRA DOLLARS TO TARGET THOSE AREAS OF TOWN THAT, UM, USUALLY ARE NOT INVOLVED? I THINK WE KNOW THOSE CITY DISTRICTS, UM, ARE WE WORKING AND IT'S FOR THIS, THIS CASE, AND THEN OTHER COMMUNITY MEETINGS AS WE LOOK AT PEOPLE SERVING ONBOARDING COMMISSIONS, KIND OF, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S LIKE THREE DISTRICTS IN SAN ANTONIO THAT USUALLY FOR SOME REASON OR ANOTHER DON'T APPLY OR DON'T GET THE MEMO.
ARE WE USING ANY BOOSTING DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, TO KIND OF FENCE THOSE AREAS AND TARGET THEM A LITTLE BIT BETTER? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE'RE HOLDING THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS IN GEOGRAPHICALLY DIVERSE AREAS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING D S D ACADEMIES IN OUR BUILDING.
UH, WE'RE HAVING COMMUNITY MEETINGS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN, EAST, WEST, SOUTH.
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WE'RE ALSO HAVING AND DEDICATING ONE OF THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS TO BE DELIVERED ENTIRELY IN SPANISH, UH, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING TO AN AUDIENCE, UH, THAT IS BROAD, THAT IS DIVERSE, SO THAT EVERYONE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN ABOUT THIS PROCESS.I, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE, WE'RE NECESSARILY INVESTING EXTRA DOLLARS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE, WE'RE KIND OF BOOKING THOSE MEETINGS, UH, GEOGRAPHICALLY, UH, MAKING SURE THAT WE GET OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
I, I ALSO WANNA SAY, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE ALSO MEETING WITH INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
UH, WE, WE HAD A, A MEETING WHERE WE DELIVERED PRETTY MUCH THIS, THE SAME PRESENTATION, UH, TO THE MISSION SAN JOSE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THEY REACHED OUT AND ASKED THAT WE COME TO THEIR MEETING.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE SPECIFIC GROUPS THAT WANT TO MEET, UH, INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THAT WANT TO MEET, WE'RE DOING THAT.
UH, WE WILL, I'M SURE WE'LL CONTINUE TO MEET WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE TIER ONE NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION THAT'S A GROUP OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
UH, SO WE'RE, WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO, TO KIND OF REACH OUT TO A, A GEOGRAPHICALLY DIVERSE, UH, YOU KNOW, GROUP, UH, TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS AWARE OF, OF THIS PROCESS.
AND IF I CAN ADD, UM, LOGAN, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
UH, WE ARE ALSO HAVE DELIVERED, UM, PAPER COPIES OF OUR FLYERS, OUR NOTICES OF, UM, OUR PUBLIC MEETINGS OUT TO ALL OF THE PUBLIC LIBRARIES AND TO THE SENIOR CENTERS.
WE'VE ALSO HAND DELIVERED DOCUMENTS TO THE COUNCIL OFFICES FOR THEIR SATELLITE OFFICES.
SO WE'RE DOING THE BEST THAT WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, UH, UM, REACHING OUT IN, EVEN WITH THE DIGITAL DIVIDE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REACHING OUT AS BEST AS WE CAN.
UH, WE ARE DOING, OF COURSE, ALL SOCIAL MEDIA NEXT DOOR.
UH, WE HAVE OUR LIST OF CONSTANT CONTACT THAT'S OVER 400 DIFFERENT AGENCIES THAT WE COORDINATE WITH TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS AWARE THAT THIS PROCESS IS HAPPENING.
AND, AND ONE MORE FOLLOW UP QUESTION.
UM, DID I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY, LOGAN, THAT WE'RE STILL GONNA CONTINUE WITH KIND OF LIKE OUR COVID MEETING ADJUSTMENTS, LIKE ALLOWING VOICEMAILS AND THE LIVE STREAM MOVING FORWARD? YEAH, SO ALL OF ALL OF THE TAC MEETINGS WILL BE, UH, LIVE STREAMED.
UH, THE, THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY STILL FOR THE PUBLIC TO SUBMIT THE, THE VOICEMAIL IF THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO ATTEND THE MEETING.
UH, THE ONLY REAL DIFFERENCE FROM COVID O V I D ERA MEETINGS TO THE WAY THESE MEETINGS WILL WORK IS WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THAT LIVE CALL COMPONENT.
UH, BUT CERTAINLY, UH, FOLKS CAN COME TO THE MEETING IN PERSON.
THEY CAN SIGN UP TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION, UH, AND THEY CAN ALSO, UH, SUBMIT WRITTEN COMMENTS OR LEAVE A VOICEMAIL THAT CAN BE PLAYED.
AND I THINK, UH, CONNIE, THIS IS MELISSA RAMEZ AGAIN.
UH, I KNOW, I THINK LOGAN MENTIONED THIS.
ALL OF OUR PTAC MEETINGS ARE GONNA LIVESTREAM AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
UH, WE'RE JUST LIKE WE'RE DOING TODAY, OUR AGENDA ITEMS ARE IN, WHICH IS WHAT WE, OUR COMMISSIONS.
SO THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC FEEDBACK ARE THERE.
NO FURTHER QUESTION, MR. CHAIR.
CON, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I MUTE GEORGE.
WHO'S THAT? IT'S SUSAN WRIGHT.
YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO THE SCHEDULE A BIT, AND I'M CERTAINLY OKAY WITH WAITING TO SEE HOW IT ROLLS OUT.
BUT WHEN I SEE TWO DAYS BACK TO BACK FROM EIGHT TO FIVE FOR TAC, THAT'S KIND OF LIKE, NOT, TO ME, THAT'S NOT A REASONABLE EXPECTATION OR AN APPROPRIATE EXPECTATION.
ACTUALLY,
AND SO, UH, THOSE KINDS OF MEETING SCHEDULES, UM, YOU KNOW, TWO DAYS OUTTA FIVE OUT OF A WORK WEEK DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.
SOME OF THEM ARE BACKUPS, SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT WON'T HAPPEN.
BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT BECAUSE WE'VE NEVER EVER HAD THAT HEAVY OF A SCHEDULE ONCE A WEEK ON A FRIDAY.
THAT'S USUALLY A DAY WHERE PEOPLE ARE, ARE MORE FLEXIBLE, UM, AS A GENERAL RULE.
NOT ALL, NOT ALL, BUT AS A GENERAL RULE.
AND SO I DO, I JUST WANNA VOICE CONCERNS ABOUT IT BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THE SCHEDULE, IT MAKES ME WANNA RUN
UM, THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS.
UH, SUSAN, YES, I, I UNDERSTAND IT.
THIS DOES LOOK, UH, PRETTY HEAVY.
I KNOW, UH, IN THE YEARS PAST WHEN WE HAVE HAD OUR U D C AMENDMENT MEETINGS, TYPICALLY WE'RE HAVE HOSTING THOSE ON MONDAYS.
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HAVE THESE FROM EIGHT TO FIVE.UM, OUR, AND THE OTHER THING IS, IS IT MOST LIKELY WE'LL BE STICKING TO MONDAYS AND TUESDAYS HALF DAY? UM, WE WILL NEED TO REASSESS, UM, THE CALENDAR ONCE ALL THE U D C AMENDMENTS ARE SUBMITTED.
UM, AND THE DOOR, UH, FOR OPPORTUNITY TO SUBMIT IS CLOSED ON FEBRUARY 1ST.
WE WILL QUICKLY REASSESS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN PAPER BACK.
I WOULD ENVISION NONE OF THE FRIDAYS AND FEBRUARY MAY OCCUR, UM, BUT HALF DAYS ON MAYBE, UM, MONDAYS AND OR TUESDAYS, MAY, MAY HAPPEN.
BUT WE WILL, WE WILL DEFINITELY KEEP YOU UPDATED ON THAT PROGRESS.
WE WANTED TO JUST PUT THE DATES AND TIMES ON YOUR CALENDAR AND THEN IF, IF NEEDED, WE WILL, UH, SHRINK THAT TIME FOR SOMETHING THAT'S MORE REALISTIC.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS YOUR, YOU ARE VOLUNTEERING AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
AS YOU KNOW, UH, IN THE YEARS PAST, WE HAVE HAD SOME FULL DAYS, UM, WHERE WE FED YOU BREAKFAST, LUNCH, AND DINNER.
THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO GO AHEAD, THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION WAS, UH, WE DO ANTICIPATE MORE U D C AMENDMENTS SUBMITTED THIS YEAR THAN WE HAVE IN THE YEARS PAST.
UH, WE WON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL WE ACTUALLY SEE THE LIST ON FEBRUARY 1ST, BUT WE WILL DEFINITELY KEEP YOU UPDATED.
I GUESS I, WHAT I WOULD ASK MELISSA, IS I APPRECIATE THE VOLUME AND I KNOW HOW HARD THIS IS TO NAVIGATE WITH EVERYBODY, BUT I DO THINK WE HAVE TO TALK TO OUR MEMBERSHIP ON THIS COMMITTEE AND SEE WHAT'S REASONABLE WITH THE MEMBERS WHO ARE HERE AND WHO ARE APPOINTED TO SERVE ON THIS.
UM, I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING YOU SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING, UM, WITHOUT AT LEAST A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHO'S REALLY AVAILABLE AND WHO HAS THE FLEXIBILITY IN THEIR WORK LIFE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
AND IS IT, ARE WE STILL GETTING A WELL-ROUNDED COMMITTEE? ARE WE, YOU KNOW, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS I THINK HAVE TO BE ANSWERED RIGHT BEFORE WE LOAD THE SCHEDULE UP IN A MEETING.
AND TO ME, IT'S AN APPROPRIATE CONVERSATION.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE ONCE WE HAVE ALL THE AMENDMENTS IN TO TALK ABOUT THAT SO THAT WE DON'T, UM, OVERLOAD OR HAVE A BUNCH OF NO-SHOWS, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GONNA GIVE UP MY PAID MY PAID BUSINESS FOR THIS, BUT I'M CERTAINLY INTERESTED IN CONTINUING THE COMMITMENT.
SO I FEEL CERTAIN OTHERS FEEL THAT WAY.
AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO HEAR FROM THE MEMBERSHIP, NOT JUST THE CITY ON WHAT'S DOABLE.
AND IF THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO ADJUST SOME DEADLINE, THEN YOU HAVE TO ADJUST A DEADLINE.
UH, WE'VE WAITED THIS LONG AND IT WON'T KILL US.
I REALIZE WE NEED TO GET IT DONE
AND I WOULD, IF ANYBODY ELSE FEELS THAT WAY, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF I'M THE LONE RANGER HERE AND NEED TO BE QUIET, OR IF THERE ARE OTHERS WHO ARE A LITTLE OVERWHELMED LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR.
WHO IS THAT AS I'M, THIS IS ERIC ESTRADA.
RADDA, WHAT DO YOU REALLY THINK? YEAH, I KNOW.
YOU'RE SO USED TO NOT HEARING ME, UH, BE OPEN
SHE'S BEEN SO DIPLOMATIC THOUGH, ROBERT.
IT'S SO, YOU KNOW, REFRESHING.
SUSAN, DID YOU WRITE THAT MEAN? I THINK, I THINK ALL OF US FEEL, YOU KNOW, THE WAY SUSAN DOES THAT, THIS IS TOO MUCH.
UM, EIGHT HOURS A DAY IS TOO MUCH OF TALKING WORD THROUGH WORD FOR CODE AND DOING IT DAYS BACK TO BACK.
UM, THE ONE THING I'M GONNA ADD IN IS I UNDERSTAND WE'RE NOT GONNA KNOW UNTIL IT CLOSES HOW MANY, BUT I DON'T THINK WE CAN WAIT UNTIL FEBRUARY WHEN IT'S CLOSED.
AND WE KNOW HOW MANY TO MAKE DECISIONS ON, YOU KNOW, I THINK MOST OF US CAN'T HOLD TWO AND THREE DAYS A WEEK FOR MONTHS ON END OUT OF OUR BUSINESS SCHEDULE.
WE CAN'T, AND WE CAN'T GET THAT CLOSE UP TO IT, NOT KNOWING WHAT THAT'S GONNA BE.
AND IT'S IMPORTANT WE PUT SOME BOUNDARIES EVEN ON OURSELVES OF HOW MUCH TIME WE'RE GONNA SPEND OR HOW QUICKLY WE'RE GONNA MOVE THROUGH SOME OF THESE AND WHAT OUR PROCESS WILL LOOK LIKE.
BUT HAVING TO GET MORE BOUNDARIES ON THIS AND NOT LEAVE IT OPEN-ENDED UNTIL IT CLOSES IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY.
UH, IT IS JUST A CHALLENGE ON TOP OF JUST THE AMOUNT OF TIME.
YOU KNOW, KARA, I, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD THIS FROM MELISSA, THIS IS A WORST CASE SCENARIO SCHEDULE.
AND BASED ON HOW MANY AMENDMENTS WE GET, UH, IT'LL BE REFINED.
AND, AND I THINK THAT WHAT SUSAN WRIGHT SAID ABOUT IF WE HAVE TO PUSH IT THE EXTENSION A LITTLE BIT, I DON'T SEE THAT THAT SHOULD
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BE A BIG PROBLEM, BECAUSE YEAH, IT IS.IF YOU'RE TAKING TWO DAYS A WEEK OUTTA YOUR SCHEDULE, THAT'S A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT LIKE MIKE MOORE THAT RETIRED.
AND, UH, SO IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT.
BUT I THINK AS THIS GOES THROUGH, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR NEXT MEETING IS, MELISSA OR LOGAN, BUT I'M HOPING THAT AS WE START GETTING THE AMENDMENTS IN, WE CAN START REFINING THAT AND GET FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMITTEE TO SAY, HEY, I CAN DO ONE DAY A WEEK.
I CAN'T DO TWO DAYS A WEEK, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I'VE DOWNLOADED ON ALL MY SCHEDULES AND NOW I HAVE TO CROSSCHECK IT AGAINST MY PREVIOUS COMMITMENTS.
WHAT WE CAN DO IS, UM, WE CAN TAKE OFF ALL OF THE, UH, FRIDAY MEETINGS, UM, BECAUSE I KNOW BY THE END OF THE WEEK WE ARE ALL STRUGGLING.
WE'VE BEEN THERE, RIGHT? WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE WHEN WE'RE SPENDING EIGHT HOURS A DAY, AND THEN WE HAVE TO COME IN ON A FRIDAY, AND THEN WE'RE DEALING WITH, UH, U D C AMENDMENT LANGUAGE.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN CUT THE, THE MONDAYS AND TUESDAYS TO HALF DAYS, UM, SO THAT YOUR CALENDARS HAVE AT LEAST HALF DAYS, AND THAT WILL TAKE US DOWN TO ONE MEETING A WEEK.
UM, WE WILL HAVE TO ASSESS THE SITUATION AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE U D C AMENDMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, AND YEAH, IF WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT ADDING ADDITIONAL MEETINGS, WE CAN DO THAT AS A GROUP.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO COORDINATE EVERYONE'S CALENDAR.
SO HAVING CONSISTENCIES IN THE DATES AND TIMES IS WHAT WE'RE AIMING FOR.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS OUR GOAL, UM, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THIS INFORMATION UP FRONT SO WE'RE NOT SCRAMBLING AT THE LAST MINUTE TO TRY AND SCHEDULE MEETINGS.
SO WE WILL, WE WILL REASSESS AND LOOK AT THIS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
UH, WE WILL DEFINITELY KEEP YOU POSTED ON ALL THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE UDC AMENDMENT.
MR. HENLEY, I BELIEVE YOU'RE MUTED, MR. HENLEY.
I, I UNDERSTAND THE GOAL AND PER A PREVIOUS PRESENTATION THAT, UH, LOGAN GAVE, UH, THESE MEETINGS ARE GONNA BE FACE TO FACE.
I'M WONDERING, IS IT POSSIBLE OR IS IT LEGAL? UH, IS THAT WE HAVE SOME SORT OF HYBRID, IN OTHER WORDS, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS GOING ON.
I HAVE THE BUILDING RELATED FIRE CODES AND APPEALS BOARD, AS LOGAN SAID EARLIER, SIMULTANEOUSLY, I GOT U D C AND, AND BUILDING CODES.
AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING, AND IF I CAN'T PARTICIPATE FACE TO FACE, CAN I PARTICIPATE ONLINE? RIGHT.
UM, SO WE WILL HAVE, JUST LIKE WE'RE DOING FOR OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, UH, THE MAJORITY, UH, OR A, UM, A FORUM WOULD NEED TO BE PRESENT.
UM, BUT THERE COULD BE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE ATTENDING VIRTUALLY.
JUST LIKE WE'RE DOING FOR OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT MONDAYS OR TUESDAYS ARE PREFERABLE FOR THE PTAC MEMBERS VERSUS FRIDAYS, BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE PAST WHEN WE'VE HELD MEETINGS ON FRIDAYS, IT'S UM, IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT MEETING.
UNLESS WE'RE DOING IT FIRST THING IN THE MORNING.
UM, SO WE HAVE, UM, A, WHO IS SPEAKING? I'M SORRY, ALREADY.
UM, SO WE, SO WE HAVE, UM, I GUESS A LIST OF ITEMS THAT ARE, I GUESS, POTENTIALLY TO BE CONSIDERED BY, BY THE TAC ALREADY, UH, POSTED.
AND SO IS THERE ANY, UH, POSSIBILITY OF STARTING THOSE SOONER THAN LATER RATHER THAN START FEBRUARY 1ST START, UM, NOVEMBER 1ST? THAT WAS ONE OF MY NEXT QUESTIONS.
'CAUSE I LIKE THAT IDEA SO WE DON'T GET SO QUITE SO OVERWHELMED.
I, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO TAKE THAT BACK AND, AND ASSESS THAT.
UH, THERE'S, WE, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AVAILABILITY, UH, IN OUR BOARDROOM TO HOST THOSE MEETINGS AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE FOLKS SCHEDULED TO BE HERE TO HELP SET UP LIVE STREAMING.
UH, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY THAT GIVES US, UH, AN ACTION ITEM TO TAKE BACK AND LOOK INTO.
YOU ARE MUTED, GEORGE, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE IN THE PROCESS THAT WOULD PREVENT US FROM GETTING STARTED EARLIER THAN FEBRUARY 1ST.
I MEAN, THE AMENDMENTS, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY AMENDMENTS THAT ARE READY TO BE HEARD BY THE TECH AT THIS STAGE IN THE GAME.
SOME OF 'EM ARE STILL BEING IN A STATE OF FLUXX, BUT, UH, I, WHAT WE CAN DO, UH, GEORGE IS,
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IS WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A FEW, A HANDFUL THAT ARE ON THE TABLE ALREADY.UM, I THINK THERE'S ONLY FOUR OR FIVE THAT ARE, UM, HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED SINCE 2020.
UH, WE CAN TALK AMONGST OURSELVES AND DETERMINE IF, IF THAT'S THE BEST PATH FORWARD.
AND AS THEY COME IN, WE CAN DEFINITELY START WORKING ON, UH, EVALUATING THOSE AND, UH, TRYING TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THEM ON AN EARLIER AGENDA.
UH, MY FEAR IS EVERYONE WILL SUBMIT, UM, YOU KNOW, RIGHT BEFORE FEBRUARY 1ST.
I MEAN THAT'S TYPICALLY, I GUESS WAY IT'S BEEN IS IT'S BEEN A LAST MINUTE THING FOR A LOT OF FOLKS.
YOU THINK YOU'RE SITTING PRETTY GOOD AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THE LAST TWO WEEKS IT'S REIGNING U D C AMENDMENTS.
BUT I THINK, AND GEORGE, THE THING THAT I GOT FROM LOGAN ON THIS, THIS ROBERT HANLEY, SORRY, UH, IS THAT LOGISTICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE FACILITATE THESE EARLIER MEETINGS? UH, IF THERE'S SOME WAY WE CAN GET THESE AHEAD OF TIME, IT MIGHT EXPEDITE THE PROCESS, WHETHER IT'S NOT A FORMAL MEETING.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ALLOWED, IT'S LEGAL US TO GET THE AMENDMENTS AND FOR ALL OF THE P PC TECH MEMBERS TO REVIEW IT BEFORE WE COME TOGETHER, IT MIGHT HELP SPEED UP THE PROCESS.
WE, WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT THIS.
I THINK THE CAVEAT IS, IS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT IF FOR SOME REASON THERE IS ANOTHER U D C AMENDMENT THAT IS SUBMITTED THAT IS CONFLICTING WITH SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALREADY CONSIDERED, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO RECONSIDER IT.
BECAUSE REMEMBER WHEN UM, ALL OF THESE U D C AMENDMENTS ARE SUBMITTED, MY TEAM AND I GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE U D C AMENDMENT AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOTHING CONFLICTING WITH EACH OTHER OR WITH OUR CODE.
WE HAVE TO WORK THESE DISCUSSIONS OUT WITH THE PERSON WHO SUBMITTED THE U D C AMENDMENT.
AND THE OTHER THING IS MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ALL REALLY A PART OF THE U D C CHAPTER 35 AND NOT ANOTHER CODE.
SO THERE IS A LOT OF BEHIND THE SCENES WORK, AND I JUST DON'T WANNA MAKE Y'ALL DO DOUBLE WORK.
UM, IF FOR SOME REASON SOMETHING ELSE IS SUBMITTED DOWN THE LINE.
'CAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS WE'LL ALSO, IF THERE ARE TWO U D C AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED FOR THE SAME SECTION OF THE CODE, WE TYPICALLY WORK WITH THE APPLICANTS AND COMBINE THOSE SO THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING ONE.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? UH, YES, I AGREE WITH THAT.
UH, BECAUSE THAT, THAT DOES HAPPEN.
I, I THINK THEY DO HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED HOLISTICALLY WHEN WE KNOW EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.
BUT MAYBE WE CAN DO THOSE CLARIFICATIONS IF THEY, IF YOU HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW, THAT, WHETHER IT IS A CLARIFICATION OR WHETHER IT'S AN AMENDMENT AND, AND, AND GET THAT GOING TOWARDS THE PLANNING COMMISSION IF THAT HAS TO HAPPEN.
MY SECOND QUESTION IS, UM, IF SOMEONE FROM ONE OF THE BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS, EITHER PLANNING COMMISSION, ZONING, COMMISSION, SUBMITS, UH, AN AMENDMENT OR A PROPOSED AMENDMENT, AND THEN THEY ARE NOT REAPPOINTED, SEEK NOT TO BE REAPPOINTED, UH, OR WHATEVER ARE, ARE NOT ON THAT BOARD OF COMMISSION, UH, DOES THAT STILL MOVE FORWARD? SO THE ACTION THAT IS TAKEN BY THE BOARDS OR COMMISSION IS AS A WHOLE, NOT NECESSARILY BY THAT SINGLE COMMISSIONER.
SO LET'S SAY FOR INSTANCE, IF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT WANTS TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT, THEY HAVE TO, UH, TAKE ACTION ON THAT AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO SUBMIT THAT UBC AMENDMENT AS A WHOLE, AS A BODY.
UM, AND IF THEY CHOOSE TO DO SO, THEN THOSE WOULD MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THE PROCESS.
JUST BECAUSE ONE OF THE COMMISSION'S LEAVES DOESN'T MEAN IT WILL BE REMOVED.
SO, UM, AN INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBER DOESN'T MAKE THE AMENDMENT, THE BOARD ITSELF DOES.
I THINK, I THINK WE HAVE A QUESTION.
AND FOR THE RECORD, THAT WAS KEN BROWNS.
I KNOW THERE'S THE CONCERN OF NOT DUPLICATING EFFORT AND REVIEWING SOME OF THOSE, BUT CERTAINLY THERE'S ALREADY A STACK OF ITEMS THAT ARE D S D CLARIFICATIONS AND REDS AND, YOU KNOW, UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE, AS Y'ALL BEGIN LOOKING AT TIGHTENING THIS SCHEDULE, MAYBE WE START IN JANUARY ON ALL OF THAT.
THAT'S ALREADY IN KNOWING THAT WHAT THE DUPLICATION IS MAY BE A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF THIS.
UM, AND Y'ALL'S PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE VERY LITTLE OVERLAP WITH SOME OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
THINGS THAT MAYBE WE CAN GET THROUGH, YOU KNOW, SLS AT A TIME TO TRY TO JUST WRAP THIS UP AND GET US IN THE GROOVE.
I, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE IN STARTING IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER JUST WITH HOLIDAYS AND, UM, CRAZY SCHEDULES.
BUT MAYBE JANUARY IS WORTH ON SOME OF THOSE, CONSIDERING THAT MAY BE BETTER BECAUSE THEN WE DO HAVE, I, WITH THE HOPES OF MORE SUBMITTALS, UM, U D C AMENDMENT SUBMITTALS, MAYBE WE, WE HAVE MORE OF A, UM, LARGER BATCH TO BE CONSIDERED.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL JUST HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB IN MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE, UM, DOUBLE CHECKING EVERYTHING ELSE
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THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED SINCE THEN.UM, AND THEN I THINK SOMEONE HAD TALKED ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, EDITING AND CLARIFYING, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE CAN HAVE AT TAC IS, YOU KNOW, IS IT THAT WE ONLY WANNA FOCUS ON THE, UM, THREES, WHICH ARE, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE GONNA BE MAJOR DISCUSSION ITEMS OR DISCUSSION ITEMS THAT WE ARE KNOW, WE'RE GONNA SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON, UM, VERSUS, YOU KNOW, THE EDITING AND CLARIFYING, UH, AMENDMENT.
SO THAT IS A PART OF OUR JOB TO ANALYZE THAT INFORMATION AND PROVIDE IT TO PTECH SO YOU'LL KNOW COMING IN IF IT'S EDITING OR CLARIFYING A MORE THAN EDITING AND CLARIFYING.
SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS AS WELL.
UH, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO MENTIONED IT, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN MR. HENLEY, BUT THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT Y'ALL CAN TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.
ANYTHING EDITING, CLARIFYING, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE INTENT OF THE CODE, WE'RE JUST CLARIFYING SOME OF THE LANGUAGE AND MAYBE THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, A, AN AGENDA ITEM THAT JUST APPROVES ALL OF THOSE, UM, AS YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, ONE ITEM, YOU KNOW, JUST, I'M JUST THROWING OUT IDEAS, IDEAS.
I THINK WE HAD A QUESTION FROM MR. TAYLOR.
UM, SO THIS IS MICHAEL TAYLOR AND I'M AN ALTERNATE AND I THINK THERE'S A FEW OTHER ALTERNATES THAT ARE ON THE CALL.
UM, SO I GUESS I WAS JUST CURIOUS, I MEAN, WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE ALTERNATE? I MEAN, ARE WE, ARE WE, SHOULD WE BE IN EVERY MEETING OR ARE WE LITERALLY JUST IN THE MEETINGS WHEN THE PRIMARY, UM, WHEN OUR PRIMARY CAN'T BE THERE? UM, IN THAT CASE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE BEST WAY OF, OF KIND OF TRANSFERRING KNOWLEDGE? 'CAUSE I KNOW MEETINGS AREN'T NECESSARILY GONNA END CLEANLY EVERY TIME.
THERE MAY BE, UM, THINGS THAT ARE CARRIED OVER FROM ONE MEETING TO THE NEXT.
SO WHAT ARE Y'ALL'S RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE ALTERNATES? SO THE, THE ALTERNATES THEY DO, THEY SERVE IN THE ABSENCE OF THE PRIMARY MEMBER.
SO D S D STAFF WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR COORDINATING, UH, YOU KNOW, ATTENDANCE AT THOSE MEETINGS, MAKING SURE, YOU KNOW, FOLKS THAT ARE NOT ABLE TO ATTEND WILL REACH OUT TO THE ALTERNATE.
UM, MELISSA, COULD YOU MAYBE SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO WHAT WE DID IN 2015 FOR THE, THE SITUATION? SURE, SURE.
UM, SO, SO FOR THE, YOU KNOW, THE PRIMARIES ARE THE ONES THAT, UM, SHOULD BE ATTENDING THE MEETINGS, BUT FOR SOME REASON, IF THE PRIMARIES AREN'T ABLE TO ATTEND, THE A WILL BE WE ARE GONNA COMMUNICATE WITH EVERYONE, NOT JUST PRIMARIES, WE'RE COMMUNICATING WITH EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT IS ON CAC, WHETHER YOU'RE A PRIMARY OR ALTERNATE, TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE BROUGHT UP TO SPEED, UM, AND ARE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE AGENDAS THAT ARE GOING FORWARD.
UM, IF THE ALTERNATE IS ATTENDING, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD DO THAT MAYBE VIA WEBEX JUST TO LISTEN TO THE MEETINGS.
THE OTHER THING IS, IS WE, LIKE WHAT I MENTIONED, THESE MEETINGS ARE GONNA BE LIVE STREAMED.
SO YOU CAN ALWAYS LISTEN TO THE MEETINGS AS AN ALTERNATE, UM, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE MEETING OR YOU KNOW, THE NEXT WEEK, DEPENDING UPON WHAT YOUR SCHEDULE ALLOWS.
SO YOU CAN KEEP UP WITH THE AGENDA ITEMS THAT ARE BEING DISCUSSED.
UH, WE WOULD ENCOURAGE, UH, THE PRIMARIES AND THE ALTERNATE TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THE PRIMARY WON'T BE ABLE TO BE THERE, THE ALTERNATE CAN.
UM, IF THE ALTERNATE IS PRESENT IN THE MEETING PHYSICALLY OR, UM, AT, IN ON A WEBEX, THE PRIMARY IS THE ONE WHO VOTES.
UM, AND, UM, THE ALTERNATE IS THERE JUST OBSERVING, BUT, YOU KNOW, TO JUST TO BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE AGENDA TOPICS THAT ARE GOING ON AND MAKE SURE THAT IF FOR SOME REASON THEY NEED TO FILL IN, THEY'RE READY FOR THE, THAT NEXT MEETING.
I HOPE THAT HELPED ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
UM, SO I KNOW THAT, UM, D S C IS WORKING WITH THE BOARDS AND THE COMMISSIONS, UH, TO, UM, START SESSIONS ON GATHERING THE INFORMATION.
AND AGAIN, KIND OF TALKING ABOUT HOW TO SEED, UH, WE'LL SAY PRE, PRE FEBRUARY 1ST, WE MAY HAVE OPPORTUNITIES THERE IF WE WERE TO APPROACH THOSE COMMISSIONS, UH, AND THE, AND THE BOARD WITH REGARDS TO SETTING EARLIER TIMELINES FOR, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE CAN GET TO, KNOWING THAT WE HAVE FEBRUARY 1ST AS THE TARGET, WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET SOME, YOU KNOW, THE INITIAL THOUGHTS DOWN AND APPROACH SOME OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, MUCH EARLIER THAN THE FEBRUARY 1ST TIMELINE.
I A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE WITH YOU.
UM, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE STARTING TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS NOW.
UH, YOU ARE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS ON WHAT YOU SEE EVERY DAY ON YOUR AGENDA, AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THOSE, UM, AREAS THAT NEED TO HAVE IMPROVEMENT.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE MEETINGS ARE GONNA START FAIRLY QUICKLY, UM, WITHIN THE NEXT, UM, COUPLE OF WEEKS.
BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE TARGETING ANY DAY SOONER THAN JANUARY ONE, BECAUSE LIKE KARA SAID, YOU'RE GETTING INTO HOLIDAYS AND IT'S GONNA BE, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE INTO TAC MEETINGS FROM
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HERE.I, I HAVE JANUARY ONE ON MY, MY NOTES.
ALRIGHT, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE SCHEDULE OR GENERAL QUESTIONS? ARE YOU GONNA UPDATE THE CALENDARS, MELISSA? YES, SIR.
I'D LIKE TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE THE DISCUSSION HAS GONE AS WE START.
I'D LIKE TO KEEP IT, YOU KNOW, THE BYLAWS SAY MONDAY AFTERNOON, SO I REALIZE THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH THE BOARDROOM AND THE LIVE STREAMING, SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A SPLIT MONDAY, TUESDAY SITUATION, RIGHT.
I'D LIKE TO KEEP 'EM MONDAY, TUESDAY AFTERNOON AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL WORK IT FROM THERE.
AND I THINK I UNDERSTOOD WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THE OPTION OF, UH, YOU KNOW, B ROOM UPSTAIRS GETTING ABILITY TO LIVE STREAM.
THAT WOULD GIVE US, YOU KNOW, THE ALTERNATIVE TO THE BOARD ROOM.
UM, YES, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW QUICKLY THAT CAN GET DONE, BUT YES MA'AM.
GEORGE, DID YOU SAY REDO THE, THE SCHEDULE TO HAVE THE MEETINGS ON MONDAY MORNINGS AND TUESDAY AFTERNOONS? NO, MONDAY AFTERNOON, TUESDAY AFTERNOON.
YEAH, THAT WOULD WORK BETTER, UH, IN A LOT OF CASES FOR ME.
I KNOW, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THIS, YOU KNOW, ME AND KARA DEFINITELY, I KNOW WE BOTH HAVE A LOT OF DUTIES MONDAY MORNINGS IN OUR, YOU KNOW, IN OUR OFFICES THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF.
AND I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY TRUE FOR A LOT OF OTHER FOLKS.
SO MONDAY MORNINGS IS JUST A BAD DIME FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR MOST PEOPLE.
SO, LIKE I SAID, THE BYLAWS, I'D LIKE TO KEEP IT IN THE AFTERNOON FOR THOSE DAYS.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ITEM, FOLKS? I'M SURE WE'LL BE HEARING A LOT MORE.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE, WHICH
[3. Approval of minutes from the April 12, 2021 meeting]
IS ALL BUSINESS AND APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST TECH MEETING ON APRIL THE 12TH, 2021.IS THERE ANY COMMENTS, EDITS, QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MINUTES? THIS IS ROBERT HANLEY.
I MOVE APPROVAL IF THERE'S NO CHANGES OR MODIFICATIONS.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM ROBERT HANLEY.
WE HAVE A SECOND MAN, I SECOND, SECOND FROM PHILLIP MANNA.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE FROM STAFF? THAT IS ALL FROM US.
ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANY ONE OF THE TAC MEMBERS? UH, YEAH, I WAS A LITTLE LATE.
WHAT HAPPENED ON ITEM ONE? UH, SO ON ITEM ONE, UH, GEORGE PECK, UH, WAS, UH, NOMINATED AND UH, FOR CHAIR, UH, THAT WAS APPROVED.
AND FOR VICE-CHAIR, UH, IT'S, UH, JULIA CREO HANES, ALSO FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, FOR VICE CHAIR.
UH, MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, UH, THE PTAC MEMBERS ARE AWARE OF CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE HAVING.
UM, IF, UM, THIS WAS, UM, ONE OF OUR ITEMS, WE HAD TAKEN OUR U D C AMENDMENT TO CITY COUNCIL, UH, FOR A BRIEFING, JUST LIKE YOU RECEIVED HERE OF THE PROCESS.
THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION, UH, A THEME, IF YOU WILL, OF UM, EXPANDING THE, UM, PTAC MEMBER LIST TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A MORE GEOGRAPHICALLY DIVERSE GROUP.
UM, ALSO THERE WAS DISCUSSION ON, UH, POTENTIAL MORE, UM, MEMBERS THAT HAVE A BACKGROUND WITH, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL OR HISTORIC.
AND SO WE HAVE, UM, WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THIS.
WE HAD A WORK SESSION WITH PLANNING COMMISSION BRIEFING WITH THEM, UH, AND I BELIEVE THERE IS, UM, DISCUSSION TO POTENTIALLY CONSIDER AMENDING THE BYLAWS AND, UM, LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY EXPANDING, UH, THE TAX MEMBERSHIP.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS MENTIONED.
AND Y'ALL ARE AWARE, UM, GEORGE, UM, IS OBVIOUSLY, UM, ON THIS, A PART OF THIS CONVERSATION AS WELL AS OTHER, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL WERE AWARE OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WERE GOING ON.
I DON'T KNOW, GEORGE, IF YOU HAVE ANY, UH, ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD? I SEE MR. HANLEY'S HAND IS UP.
YOU KNOW, UH, MELISSA, I'D HEARD THIS BEFORE
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AND PERSONALLY HAVING WORKED ON THE P PCT, UH, AND OTHER BOARDS, THIS IS A TECHNICAL BOARD.AND THIS, WHAT I HEARD FROM COUNCIL IS THEY WANTED REPRESENTATION FROM EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT.
I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S DRIVING THAT, WHAT THE, THE, THE LEVERAGE IS ON THAT, BUT I'D BE A LITTLE BIT LEERY ABOUT PUTTING A ONE OF THE MEMBERS FROM A DISTRICT WHO'S NOT TECHNICALLY, UH, KNOWLEDGEABLE BECAUSE THE BEAUTY OF THIS PARTICULAR COMMITTEE IS THE DIVERSITY OF TECHNICAL EXPERTISE.
AND SO I JUST, I SAY THAT AS A CAUTION.
I HAVE A LOT OF RESERVATIONS ABOUT TAKING IT FROM A TECHNICAL REVIEW BOARD TO A POLITICAL APPOINTMENT BOARD.
WE, WE ARE AWARE OF THE TECHNICAL EXPERTISE THAT IS ON THIS, UM, TASK FORCE.
AND WE ARE, WE AS STAFF ARE COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE THAT ANYONE THAT IS NOT AWARE OF THE TECHNICAL, UH, CODE INFORMATION THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE HERE TO HELP WALK THEM THROUGH THAT.
SO WE, WE HEAR YOU MR. HENLEY.
UM, BUT I, I ENVISION IF THIS, ANYTHING WERE TO CHANGE, IT'S GONNA BE FALL ON THE RESPONSIBILITY OF STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE, UH, NEW MEMBERS ARE AWARE OF THE, THE WORKLOAD THAT THEY'RE GOING TO ENDURE AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE CODE BETTER BEFORE THEM.
AND THAT IS SOME OF THE FEEDBACK, ROBERT, THAT WE'VE, THAT WE'VE GIVEN BACK TO THE FOLKS, YOU KNOW, MAKING THE REQUEST AND INQUIRING ABOUT IT.
YOU KNOW, WE ARE A TECHNICAL BODY, SO, AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK YOU, UH, MENTIONED JUST FOR OPEN MEETINGS, CONFORMANCE THAT THAT LAST ITEM MELISSA BROUGHT UP WAS AN EXTENSION OF ITEM NUMBER TWO ON THE AGENDA.
UM, I JUST, UM, HAD HEARD FROM SOME OF OUR MEMBER GROUPS ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND THE HISTORICAL BEING THE SAME PERSON AND WE FIND IT VERY DIFFICULT THAT ONE PERSON COULD MEET BOTH EXPERTISE ON A TECHNICAL COMMITTEE.
AND DEBBIE, I THINK THAT'S THE INFORMATION THAT WAS SHARED AT COUNCIL.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING THE DISCUSSION.
SO WE, WE ARE, UM, WE'RE OPEN TO THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
UM, AND I SHOULDN'T BE SPEAKING FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE THEY, THESE ARE THERE BYLAWS, BUT UM, WE'VE HAD THE DISCUSSION WITH PLANNING COMMISSION AND UH, THE DISCUSSIONS ARE GONNA OCCUR.
AND IF I CAN ASSIST, LET ME KNOW.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT ITEM? ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE ADJOURN? ONCE.
ALRIGHT EVERYBODY, APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TODAY.
LOOK FORWARD TO SPENDING SOME QUALITY TIME WITH YOU OVER THE NEXT YEAR AND UH, SURE WE WILL GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER PRETTY WELL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, TECH MEMBERS.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
THE RECORD IS 10 0 1 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.