* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. ALL [00:00:01] RIGHT. GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? YES. YES, IT IS. NINE O'CLOCK. STAFF, ARE WE READY TO ROLL? ONE MINUTE PLEASE. MONIQUE? LAUREN? YES. WE'RE LIVE STREAMING. LET ME CONFIRM WITH THEM. GEORGE. YEAH. I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE, UM, AV IS READY AS WELL. YES. YES. WE'RE READY. WE'RE READY. ALL RIGHT. IF EVERYBODY IS READY. WELCOME. EVERYBODY IS 9:00 AM UH, WE'LL CALL THE, UH, WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 1ST, 2021. TAC MEETING TO ORDER. UH, WOULD THE STAFF PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL? MS. GONZALEZ, CAN YOU HEAR ME? BARELY. WE CAN BARELY HEAR YOU. MELISSA. WE CAN BARELY HEAR. YEAH. TEST. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? I CAN. A LITTLE BIT BETTER. YEAH. MS. GONZALEZ. MS. CARILLO HAYNES. MR. JACKSON? MR. SIPES? HERE. HERE. MS. MCDANIEL? MR. TEAL? PRESENT. MS. CRUZ. MS. COHAN? MS. SMITH. MS. WRIGHT? MS. FAIRMONT. MR. FERNANDEZ? MS. TACKETT? MR. LEEMAN. BOB, I SEE YOU, BUT YOU'RE MUTED. I THINK. OKAY. I'M HERE, BUT MY CAMERA'S NOT WORKING. SEE, AT LEAST IT'S NOT WORKING ON MY COMPUTER. MS. PLA PRESENT? MR. BLA? YES. I'M HERE. MR. BROWN. MELISSA, THIS IS KEN BROWN. I'M HERE. GOT YOU. MR. TAYLOR. MR. HANLEY? HERE. MS. SALVINO? HERE. MR. TAPIA? YES. MR. ESTRADA? PRESENT. MR. MANNA? MR. CHERYL? PRESENT. MS. REED? HERE. MS. DALE? PRESENT. MR. NICKS? HE'S HERE. MR. MOORE. MR. PECK PRESENT? DO WE HAVE A QUORUM? A QUORUM IS PRESENT. GREAT. I WAS GETTING WORD THERE FOR A MINUTE. P MORNING. THIS IS JULIA CARILLO HAYNES. I JOINED A COUPLE MINUTES LATE. APOLOGIES, BUT I'M PRESENT. AND THIS IS SUSAN RYAN AND I'M ALSO PRESENT. THIS IS CONNIE GONZALEZ. I'M PRESENT ASHLEY FAIRMONT AS WELL. AND PHILLIP MANNA. ANYBODY ELSE THAT WASN'T ABLE TO CHIME IN? MELISSA, DID YOU CA CAPTURE EVERYONE? YES, MA'AM. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HEARD ME. KEN BROWN PRESENT. WE GOT YOU. WE HEARD KEN. THANK [00:05:01] YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR JOINING TODAY. UH, WE'LL ROLL ON INTO, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT. IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE TECH BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS, UH, PLEASE DO SO NOW. IS THERE ANYBODY, STAFF, IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO ADDRESS THIS? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT. GREAT. [New Business  ] WE'LL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS. FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS THE, UH, BRIEFING ON THE APPROVED AND AMENDED, UH, PC TECH BYLAWS. YES. UM, SO LAST MONTH WE MET WITH THE THANKS WITH THE, UM, BYLAWS COMMITTEE, AND THEY HAVE MADE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO AMEND THE P TTAG BYLAWS. WE MET WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION LAST MONTH AS WELL, AND THEY HAVE APPROVED THESE AMENDMENTS TO THE BYLAWS. AND I JUST WANNA GO OVER WHAT THESE AMENDMENTS ARE SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS OUR NEW, UH, P-TECH BYLAWS. SO PREVIOUSLY, THE COMMITTEE, UH, WAS CONSISTING OF 18 VOTING MEMBERS. THAT HAS BEEN CHANGED TO 22 MEMBERS. UM, THE OTHER 12 MEMBERS, UM, NOW THAT IS 16 MEMBERS WITH DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. SO WE'VE SPLIT. UM, PREVIOUSLY IT WAS ENVIRONMENTAL HISTORIC. THEY WERE CONSIDERED ONE CATEGORY THAT HAS BEEN SPLIT INTO TWO SEPARATE CATEGORIES. EACH OF THEM HAVE A PRIMARY, AND EACH OF THEM HAVE AN ALTERNATE MEMBER. WE HAD FOUR REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COMMUNITY THAT HAS BEEN INCREASED TO SEVEN IN TOTAL. UM, WE DID ADD IN THE WORD, UM, PROFESSIONAL SO THAT FOR THE COMMUNITY, UH, MEMBERS, THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE A PROFESSIONAL ECONOMIC INTEREST IN LAND DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES. NEXT, UM, FOR, UH, APPOINTEES MUST RESIDE WITHIN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, OR THE E T J PROVIDED THAT AT LEAST IT USED TO BE 10. NOW WE ARE 14, MUST RESIDE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. UM, NUMBER TWO, PARAGRAPH NUMBER TWO, THE, WE ADDED IN THE SENTENCE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION SHALL ALSO STRIVE TO APPOINT CANDIDATES THAT REPRESENT THE DIVERSE POPULATION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. NEXT PARAGRAPH NUMBER NINE. UM, WE ADDED IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY APPOINT A TOTAL OF TWO ALTERNATE MEMBERS FOR THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS. IF IT IS DETERMINED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT AN ADDITIONAL ALTERNATE IS NECESSARY. CURRENTLY, THERE IS ONLY ONE ALTERNATE FOR THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS. SO IT WILL BE UP TO PLANNING COMMISSION IF THEY FEEL THE NEED TO INCREASE THAT TO TWO. AND THEN LAST, UNDER APPLICATION PROCESS, PARAGRAPH NUMBER ONE, UM, TO OUTREACH, UH, TO SOLICIT QUALIFIED. WE ADDED THE WORD DIVERSE CANDIDATES TO SERVE AS A COMMUNITY AT LARGE MEMBERS. AND I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES ALL THE AMENDMENTS TO THE UPDATED PTECH BYLAWS. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, REGARDING THOSE? LIKE MELISSA SAID, THOSE WENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION IN NOVEMBER ON THE 17TH, I BELIEVE IT WAS, AND WE, UH, REVIEWED THOSE AND APPROVED THOSE. SO CHANGES ARE MADE. APPRECIATE STAFFS, UH, WORKING WITH US ON THAT AND GETTING THAT WRAPPED UP SO QUICKLY. UH, IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, WE'LL MOVE ON. ANY QUESTIONS GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE. ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER TWO, UH, MAKE MAJOR THOROUGH. FAIR PLAN AMENDMENT ON MARBACH, I GUESS IS STAFF. DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION? YES, WE DO. UH, ONE MINUTE PLEASE. I THINK WE'RE HAVING SOME, UM, TECHNICAL ISSUES. ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO AND GET STARTED. UH, GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. GREG REINER HERE WITH, UH, PRINCIPAL PLANNER WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT. UM, SO WE DO HAVE TWO MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN AMENDMENTS, SAY THAT WE'RE PRESENTING. UM, THE FIRST ONE BEING [00:10:01] DEVELOPER INITIATED, AND THE SECOND ONE BEING, UH, CITY INITIATED. UM, SO THIS FIRST ONE IS FOR MARBACH ROAD. UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO ON THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN, MARBA ROAD IS DESIGNATED AS A SECONDARY ARTERIAL TYPE A REQUIRING 86 FEET OF RIGHT AWAY. UH, GENERALLY LOCATED IN IN WESTERN SIDE OF BEXAR COUNTY AND SAN ANTONIO. AND, AND COUNCIL DISTRICT SIX. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UM, SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE INCORPORATED SOME COMMENTS WE HAD FROM THE PAST FEW MEETINGS. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE REALLY SHOWED THAT THAT ZOOMED OUT 30,000 FOOT VIEW, UH, THAT SHOWED THE CONNECTIVITY OF THE AREA BEFORE WE GOT TO ZOOMED IN ON THE, ON THE ACTUAL AMENDMENT. UM, SO MAR BLOCK ROAD HERE, UM, IS, IS KIND OF, IT'S KIND OF FLOWING NORTH, SOUTH. SOME YOU MIGHT SAY IT'S KIND OF FLOWING EAST TO WEST, I'LL SAY NORTH SOUTH. UM, CONNECTING ESSENTIALLY PIN ROAD, UM, UP TO HIGHWAY 1 51, UM, CROSSING THE LEON CREEK. UM, SO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT FROM THE, FROM THE APPLICANT. ACTUALLY, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. UM, ZOOMED IN A LITTLE BIT BETTER. THERE WE GO. UM, SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT, UM, HERE THAT'S IN THE BLACK AND BLUE DASH LINE. UM, THE DEVELOPER'S PROPERTY IS LOCATED, UM, JUST SOUTH OF 1 51, WHERE THE BLACK AND BLUE DASH LINE, UH, TIES INTO HIGHWAY 1 51, UH, THROUGH THE PARCEL, JUST, JUST THE EAST OF THE MATHERSON AIR SEPARATION PLANT AND SOUTH OF THE MATHERSON AIR SEPARATION PLANT. UM, THE, THE THOROUGHFARE HERE DOES CONNECT 1 51 DOWN TO PIN ROAD. PIN ROAD IS NOT ON THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN, BUT IT IS PARALLEL TO MILITARY DRIVE, UM, RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH. UH, PENN ROAD RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT A FOUR LANE SECTION. UM, AND, UH, SOMEWHERE TO MILITARY. UM, THIS CAME UP BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE TOUGH TO SEE ON THE MAP, BUT IF YOU LOOK ABOUT 600 FEET WEST OF WHERE, OR EAST OF WHERE THIS TIES INTO 1 51, UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S AN OVERPASS THAT WAS DESIGNED FOR THE FUTURE THOROUGHFARE. AND THE THOROUGHFARE HERE PLAN THAT WE HAVE ADOPTED RIGHT NOW DOES NOT TIE IN WITH THAT. UM, I HAVE A FEW OTHER FACTORS TOO ON THE NEXT SLIDE THAT, THAT SHOW WHY, UH, THE DEVELOPER HAS REQUESTED FOR REMOVAL. UM, SO CURRENTLY NORTH AND SOUTH CONNECTIVITY IS HANDLED BY CALLAHAN TO THE EAST AND MILITARY TO THE WEST. UM, THOSE ARE WHAT ARE ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN. HOWEVER, PENN ROAD IS ALSO, UM, EVEN CLOSER TO THIS THAN THAN MILITARY ROAD AND RUNNING, UH, NORTH AND SOUTH AS WELL. UM, THERE'S ALSO AN EXISTING DAYCARE FACILITY AND PRIVATE SCHOOL THERE. THEY'RE LOCATED ON THE ACTUAL ADOPTED ALIGNMENT, UM, OF MARBACH JUST EAST OF PENN ROAD. UM, ONE OF THESE WAS BUILT IN 1950S. THE OTHER WAS BUILT IN THE MID EIGHTIES. UM, THIS ACTUAL THOROUGHFARE WAS DESIGNATED BY CITY COUNCIL IN 1984. SO IT WAS PUT IN AFTER THE, UM, THE OLDER STRUCTURE FROM THE FIFTIES. BUT IT WAS PUT IN, UM, JUST BEFORE THE OTHER STRUCTURE WAS, WAS BUILT. UM, WHY IT WAS PUT ON TOP OF THE . I CAN'T ANSWER FOR THAT. UM, BUT THAT IS A FACTOR TO CONSIDER. UM, ALSO THE ADOPTED ALIGNMENT CROSSES APPROXIMATELY, UM, 3,400 FEET OF FLOODPLAIN. UM, SO PRETTY SIGNIFICANT FLOODPLAIN CROSSING THROUGH HERE. AND THEN, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER TOO, IT, IT DOESN'T LINE UP WITH THE CURRENT 1 51 OVERPASS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO, LOOKING AT OUR TIMELINE AND NEXT STEPS, UM, WE DID HOLD A PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING THIS PAST MONDAY. UM, THIS WAS VIRTUAL. WE DID NOT HAVE ANYBODY ATTEND. I DID HAVE SOMEONE CALL ME YESTERDAY TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. THEY WEREN'T NECESSARILY IN FAVOR OF DENIAL, THEY JUST WANTED INFORMATION ABOUT IT. UM, WE'RE HERE AT PLANNING COMMISSION ACT TODAY. UM, WE DO NOT HAVE, UM, FINALIZED DATES FOR PLANNING COMMISSION, PUBLIC HEARING FOR CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING YET, BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR JANUARY, FEBRUARY. TIMELINE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS APPROVAL IS PRESENTED, UM, TO REMOVE THIS CURRENTLY ADOPTED SEGMENT OF MARBA LOCATED BETWEEN PENN ROAD AND HIGHWAY 1 51. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. UM, WE ALSO, I WANTED TO SEE IF THE APPLICANT WAS ON, BUT I WE SHOULD HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE AS WELL. I'M LOOKING THROUGH THE, THE LIST. UH, TOM CARTER WITH PAYPAL SINCE YOU OKAY. THANK YOU. TOM. TOM, DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADDRESS THE ATTACK WITH OR YOU GOOD FOR NOW? I THINK I'M GOOD. IT, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. I, I, THE, THE ALIGNMENT JUST REALLY DIDN'T MAKE SENSE IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND THERE'S LOTS OF, UH, [00:15:01] UH, YOU KNOW, EXISTING IMPEDIMENTS. UH, THE, THE AUSTIN BRIDGE AND ROAD PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY A PRETTY SMALL ELEMENT OF WHERE THE OLD ALIGNMENT, UH, OR WHAT THE ALIGNMENT RUNS. UM, AND IT, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THE ALIGNMENT DOESN'T WORK, UM, FOR MANY REASONS. YEP. ALRIGHT, WELL, WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, UH, QUESTIONS FROM THE TAC. UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE SIDE OF, OKAY, DEBBIE, I SEE YOU'RE RAISING YOUR HAND. JUST WANTED TO BE SURE. I NOTICED THAT THERE WASN'T ANY ALTERNATIVE, UM, RECOMMENDED AND TO ENSURE THAT THE, THE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES WITH ESPECIALLY IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO FLOODPLAINS HAVE SUFFICIENT ACCESS, EMERGENCY ACCESS AND THAT SORT OF THING. YES, MA'AM. UM, SO MILITARY ROAD CURRENTLY DOES, UM, CONNECT ALL THE WAY TO HIGHWAY 90, UP TO 1 51 WITHOUT ANY FLOODPLAIN PERMITS. UM, I THINK OUR, OUR, OUR REASONING FOR, FOR ALSO RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, I KNOW THAT PIN ROAD DOES HAVE A LOW WATER CROSSING RIGHT HERE. UM, HOWEVER, I THINK IT WOULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY CHEAPER TO IMPROVE THAT SHORTER SECTION OF FLOOD PLAN CROSSING VERSUS THE 3,400 FEET THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE RIGHT HERE. UM, SO THAT WAS KIND OF OUR, OUR REASONING FOR THAT. BUT THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE ON THE PLAN THEN, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? YEAH, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE. UM, HOWEVER, THE CITY COULD STILL COME IN AND MAKE REC IMPROVEMENTS THROUGH A BOND PROGRAM OR THINGS LIKE THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, DEBBIE? OKAY. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? CHAIRMAN, IF THERE ARE NO, NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I MOVE APPROVAL THIS ROBERT SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY, FIRST OF ALL, THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, CORRECT? WAS ALRIGHT. UH, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY, UH, MR. HANLEY. I, UH, AND I MAY A SECOND AND A SECOND BY SUSAN WRIGHT. SUSAN WRIGHT. AND, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY, I GUESS STAFF, SHOULD WE DO A ROLL CALL? YES. ROLL CALL. MS. GONZALEZ. MS. CARRIO HAYNES? YES. MR. SIPES? YES. MR. TEAL? YES. MS. WRIGHT? YES. MS. FAIRMONT? YES. MR. LEEMAN? BOB IS HAVING SOUND ISSUES. HE'S HERE, BUT I CAN NEVER HEAR HERE. MS. GAN? YES. MR. NLA? YES. MR. BROWN? YES. MR. HANLEY? YES. MS. SALVINO? YES. MR. ESTRADA? YES. MR. MANNA? YES. PUT THAT NOTE AGAIN. I THOUGHT IT WORKED. BOB, YOU CAN BE HEARD NOW. OKAY. . MR. LEEMAN? YES. MR. CHERYL? YES. MR. CHERYL. MS. REED, ALYSSA, YOU SWIPE THERE HE GOES. YES, I GOT YOU. MS. DALE? YES, MS. GONZALEZ. I, I, I THINK I WAS FIRST. UNLESS YOU DIDN'T HEAR ME THE FIRST TIME. YEAH, WE DIDN'T HEAR YOU. OH, OKAY. YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YEP. MR. LOUD AND CLEAR, MR. PECK? YES. MOTION PASSES. GREAT, THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH [00:20:01] IS ANOTHER MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN AMENDMENT ON THE KELLY PARKWAY. ALRIGHT, ME AGAIN, GREG REINER. UM, SO THIS ONE IS A CITY INITIATED, UM, AMENDMENT FOR KELLY PARKWAY. UM, THIS IS IN CONJUNCTION WITH ONE THAT WE BROUGHT BACK EARLIER IN APRIL. I PROMISE WE'LL BE BACK THIS YEAR AND WE MADE IT BY DECEMBER. SO I'M HAPPY THAT, THAT WE'RE HERE TO, TO TALK TO THIS ONE. UM, SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. UM, SO AS Y'ALL RECALL, KELLY PARKWAY IS A SUPER ARTERIAL TYPE A RECORDING, 200 TO 250 FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY, UH, LOCATED IN SOUTHERN SAN ANTONIO IN BEXAR COUNTY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO, I, I DID MY BEST TO PROVIDE A, A PRETTY REGIONAL MAP OF SHOWING WHERE KELLY PARKWAY IS, ALMOST THE ENTIRE SECTION OF WHAT IT'S INCLUDED. SO KELLY PARKWAY DOES EXTEND ALL THE WAY UP INTO PORT SA, UM, WHERE IT MOVES SOUTH ACROSS MILITARY 35 AND PORT 10. UH, AND THEN IT BEGINS TO MAKE ITS WAY EASTWARD ACROSS SOUTHERN BEXAR COUNTY, UM, WHERE IN OUR GENERAL AMENDMENT AREA, UH, ACROSS THIS PLEASANTON, SOUTH OF MITCHELL LAKE. PROCESS US TWO, ONE IN 1937, UM, AS IT FALLS BLUE WING AND, AND IT DEAD ENDS TO I 37. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT, UM, IS, AS I MENTIONED, IS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ONE THAT WE WORKED ON EARLIER THIS YEAR THAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN APRIL. SO, UH, LOOKING AT THIS MAP, UH, THE SECTION THAT SAYS KELLY PARKWAY, KIND OF RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PINK LINE THAT HAS THE LITTLE CURB, UM, TO THE WEST, UM, IS THE SECTION, UH, BETWEEN PLEASANTON AND 2 81 IS, UH, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE SOUTH OF THE LAKE. THAT IS THE SECTION THAT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL TO BE SHIFTED SOUTH, UH, EARLIER THIS YEAR. SO AS PART OF THAT, WE TOLD, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION TECH THAT WE WOULD COME BACK AT A LATER DATE LATER THIS YEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN TIE IN THIS ROADWAY TO BE ONE CONTINUOUS ROADWAY. 'CAUSE AS YOU RECALL, UM, WHEN WE DID IT, WE WERE LEFT WITH TWO T INTERSECTIONS AT ACTUALLY 14 INTERSECTIONS. REALLY, UH, PLEASANT HAND AND US 2 81. YEAH. SO WE'RE COMING BACK TODAY TO RECOMMEND A NEW ALIGNMENT. UM, IF WE WANT TO, I CAN KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH IT REAL QUICK AND WE CAN WORK OUR WAY. UM, LET'S GO EAST TO WEST. UH, RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN TO THE LEFT. SO THE CURRENT KELLY PARKWAY DOES FOLLOW, UH, BLUEING ROAD. UM, WE'RE AMENDING IT TO FALL BLUEING ROAD ALL THE WAY TO, UH, FM 1937 AND STAY SOUTH OF THE OVERHEAD TRANSMISSIONS LINES. THERE'S QUITE A FEW TRANSMISSION LINE TOWERS AND EASEMENTS THAT THAT CAN POSE A, A CONFLICT OF THIS. UM, SO BY STAYING SOUTH OF THOSE TRANSMISSION LINES, WE CAN THEN TIE DIRECTLY INTO THE KELLY PARKWAY ALIGNMENT THAT'S CURRENTLY ADOPTED AT US 2 81 WHERE, UM, IS IT CURRENTLY EXISTING? SO THEN WE WOULD PICK IT UP AGAIN, UM, AT PLEASANTON ROAD AND WORK OUR WAY NORTH, UM, OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS BETWEEN THE UTILITY EASEMENTS AT A BETTER ANGLE, AND THEN WORK OUR WAY UP TO, UH, MATHERSON ROAD, WHICH IS, UM, WHICH IS THERE WHERE IT SAYS KELLY PARKWAY. UM, YOU CAN SEE THE BLUE LINE REALLY CUT A LOT OF THESE PARCELS IN HALF. AND WE'RE LOOKING WITH THE GREEN LINE TO REALLY UTILIZE MOST, MOST OF THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY THAT'S ALREADY THERE, UH, ARE ERMAN, I THINK I GOT THE, I PRONOUNCE THAT WRONG, UH, ERMAN ROAD THERE. UM, SO THAT WILL ALLOW MOST OF THESE PARCELS TO STAY INTACT COMPLETELY AND JUST HAVE FRONT EDGE INSTEAD OF HAVING, UH, THE CURRENTLY ADOPTED BLUE AND BLACK LINE. UM, CUT THROUGH MANY OF THE PARCELS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS JUST A LITTLE BIT BETTER ZOOMED IN, MATT. I KNOW IT'S, IT'S SUCH A WIDE, WE HAVEN'T REALLY DONE ONE THAT'S SUCH A BIG AREA LIKE THIS BEFORE. UM, BUT AGAIN, JUST SHOWING, UH, THE CONNECTION FROM 1937 TO 2 81, STAYING SOUTH OF THE TRANSMISSION LINES, TYING IN DIRECTLY TRYING TO UTILIZE AS MUCH EXISTING RIGHTWAY AS POSSIBLE. AND THEN THE SECTION FROM PLEASANTON TO, TO MAUERMAN. UM, TYING IN EXACTLY AT PLEASANTON AND WORKING OUR WAY NORTH. TRYING TO HUG THE RAILROAD RIGHT AWAY, AS CLOSE AS WE CAN. UM, AS WE MAKE THAT JOG TO THE WEST AT, AT MAUERMAN ROAD. UM, AND HAVE PROPERTY, UH, FRONTING THE PROPERTY RATHER THAN CUTTING THROUGH THE PROPERTIES. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO SOME OF THE FACTORS CONSIDERED, AS I MENTIONED A FEW TIMES, THIS IS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PREVIOUS AMENDMENT BACK IN APRIL. UM, THE CURRENT EAST WEST CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN STATE HIGHWAY 16 AND 37 IS PRIMARILY HANDED BY 1604 AND FOUR 10. UM, THERE ARE OTHER FMS AND RURAL ROADS, BUT UH, THIS WOULD BE A MAJOR CONNECTOR. UH, THERE'S A LOT OF MAJOR TRIP GENERATORS IN THIS AREA AND THERE SEEMS TO BE MORE AND MORE EVERY DAY. UH, A AND M SAN ANTONIO CAMPUS TOYOTA MISSION DE LAGO MASTER PLAN, UH, NAVISTAR TJ MAX FACILITY. UH, A LOT OF GROWTH. UH, SO THIS ALIGNMENT WOULD RETAIN THE, THE CONNECTION THAT KELLY PARKWAY IS MEANT TO SERVE [00:25:01] WHILE AVOIDING THE CONFLICT OF OVERHEAD TRANSMISSION LINES AND ALSO ENSURING THAT WE NOW HAVE A, A CONTINUOUS THROUGH CONNECTION OF KELLY PARKWAY INSTEAD OF THE SEGMENTED ONE THAT WE HAD BEFORE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UM, SO WE DID HAVE A PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING LAST NIGHT. WE HAD ABOUT FIVE CITIZENS IN ATTENDANCE. UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OFFICIAL I'M FOR IT OR I'M AGAINST IT. THEY'RE REALLY JUST LOOKING TO GET SOME MORE INFORMATION. UH, WE ARE HERE AT PLANNING COMMISSION TAC TODAY AND SIMILAR TO THE MAROCH AMENDMENT, WE ARE LOOKING FOR A JANUARY, FEBRUARY TIMELINE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, PUBLIC HEARING AND CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS PRESENTED. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND WITH THAT I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. AND THIS IS INITIATED BY THE CITY, CORRECT? CORRECT. CITY INITIATED. OKAY. ALRIGHT, I SEE. UH, OKAY. I KNOW WE'RE GONNA, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS HERE. I THINK WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS I'M JUST GONNA GO DOWN THE LIST THAT I HAVE HERE, THE MEMBERSHIP AND JUST KIND OF CALL EACH PERSON AND, UH, IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS, MAKE YOUR COMMENTS. IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE ON. UH, SO FIRST, UH, CONNIE GONZALEZ, NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN. THANK YOU. CONNIE, IS IT POSSIBLE TO BLOW THE MAP UP WHILE WE'RE ON SO WE CAN SEE IT BETTER ON OUR SCREEN WHILE WE'RE TAKING QUESTIONS? AMEN. THANK YOU. IS THAT BETTER? YES. YES. GREAT. THANKS GUYS. ALRIGHT. UH, JULIA CREO HAYES, UH, NO QUESTIONS FROM ME EITHER. THANK YOU STAFF FOR BRINGING THIS BACK. I DO REMEMBER THIS ITEM PREVIOUSLY, SO, UM, I LIKE WHAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE HERE, SO THANK YOU. BUT NO QUESTIONS. OKAY. UH, ROBERT SIPES, I HAVE NO QUESTIONS EITHER. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, SETH, TEO, NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME. CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE IS THE RAILROAD? CAN YOU POINT TO THAT OR SOMETHING? BECAUSE I'M SURE, UM, I DON'T HAVE CONTROL OF THE MOUSE, BUT, UM, LET'S LOOK, IT'S RUNNING KIND OF NORTH, SOUTH, SORT OF PARALLEL TO PLEASANTON ROAD. IF YOU SEE WHERE IT SAYS ADOPTED ALIGNMENT IN THE CALLOUT BOXES, RIGHT. YOU SEE THAT NORTH SOUTH? UM, WELL, THERE'S A FEW, ACTUALLY THERE'S A FEW RAILROADS. ONE OF THEM IS RIGHT THERE. IT'S CROSSING RIGHT THERE LEADING INTO TOYOTA. THE LITTLE SPUR RIGHT THERE. , YOU SEE IT RUNNING EAST WEST. UH, BUT THE ONE ALONG PLEASANTON ROAD, IF YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE GREEN LINE, IF YOU ZOOM UP A LITTLE BIT, UM, WHERE THE, THE NEWER, THE PROPOSED LINE, UH, MAKES THAT 90 DEGREE CURVE, UM, GO UP, UP. LEMME JUST ASK YOU A, LET ME JUST JUMP TO A QUESTION. OKAY. WHY WOULDN'T WE JUST CONNECT KELLY, IT'S CONNECTING TO, TO PLEASANTON ROAD AND GO UP AMEN. AND THEN, AND THEN GO EAST. IT JUST TO ME, WE'RE DERING THROUGH LAND AND WE COULD STAY ON PLEASANTON ROAD AND CONNECT WHERE YOU'VE GOT KELLY PARKWAY ON THE NORTH, YOU KNOW, ABOVE THE PROPOSED REALIGNMENT, UH, LITTLE BOX. OKAY. I JUST, IT SEEMS SO, IT SEEMS IMPRACTICAL TO DO THIS WHEN YOU HAVE AN EXISTING ROAD THAT YOU COULD TIE TO, SO THEN GO EAT AND THEN GO REST. YEAH, NO, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. UM, SO KELLY PARKWAY BEING THE SUPER ARTERIAL TYPE A, UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST ROADWAY CLASSIFICATIONS WE HAVE. THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A FREEWAY. UM, THIS IS, I THINK ENVISIONED WHEN IT WAS PUT ON BACK IN 2003, IS KIND OF BEING THE WORST BLOCK PARKWAY OF SOUTHERN SAN ANTONIO. SO I THINK THE CONTINUOUS MOVEMENT OF THIS AND THE AMOUNT OF FREIGHT THAT IS IN THIS AREA, I THINK IT'S, IT'S PRETTY VITAL TO HAVE THAT CONTINUOUS CONNECTION, UM, VERSUS HAVING THE THE RIGHT TURNS, THE LEFT TURNS IN A LOT OF PLACES. UM, JUST HAVING THAT THROUGH MOVEMENT ACROSS SOUTHERN BEAR COUNTY IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE DON'T HAVE. AND THAT, THAT, THAT DEPARTMENT FEELS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE NEEDED IN THE FUTURE. WELL, I WOULD PROBABLY DISAGREE WITH YOU THAT THAT IS MAKES BETTER SENSE. I'M JUST, I GET THE, THE TURNS, BUT WE'RE GOING THROUGH, WE'RE BIFURCATING PROPERTY THAT EXISTS. I JUST, I'M NOT A FAN OF THE WAY IT'S DRAWN 'CAUSE 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S, UM, I THINK IT'S DISRUPTIVE UNNECESSARILY. BUT HE'D WILLING TO HEAR ANY, HI, INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE THINKS. THANK YOU. UH, ASHLEY, NO [00:30:01] QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. , RYAN PAGANS, UM, UM, WHAT IS PLEASANTON CLASSIFIED AS RIGHT NOW? PLEASANTON IS A SECONDARY ARTERIAL. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S TYPE A OR TYPE B. I COULD PULL THAT UP. I THINK IT'S A, IT IS A, IT IS A SECONDARY ARTERIAL. SO IF WE, I MEAN IF IT WAS REALIGNED, THEN YOU'D BE LOOKING AT, WE WOULD PROBABLY UPGRADING A VERY SMALL PORTION OF IT AND THEN THE REST WOULD BE MAINTAIN AS A TYPE A. YEAH. YEAH. WE'D PROBABLY NEED TO CHANGE THE CLASSIFICATION BETWEEN DERMAN AND KELLY PARKWAY, JUST SO YOU'RE NOT DUMPING TRAFFIC IN THAT BOTTLENECK. YEAH. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, BOB LEMAN, NO QUESTIONS. ARMANDO , NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. ANDRE? NO QUESTIONS. ROBERT HANLEY? YES. UH, THANK YOU GEORGE. UH, GREG, I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. I AGREE WITH SUSAN WRIGHT ON THIS MM-HMM. , UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WANNA MAKE YOUR PROPOSED REALIGNMENT KINDA LIKE A WACH PARKWAY, BUT FINDING UP THE MIDDLE OF A PROPERTY, UH, ALL THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITIONS AND ALL THAT. AND SO LET ME ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION. UM, HAS THE MAJOR THOROUGH FOR PLAN EVER BEEN UPDATED SINCE IT WAS ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 21ST, 1978? SO AMENDMENTS LIKE THIS ARE TECHNICALLY UPDATES, SO IT'S BEEN UPDATED DOZENS OF TIMES IF WE COUNT THE AMENDMENTS. UM, IT'S A QUESTION, GREG, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE UPDATE AMENDMENTS ALL THE TIME, BUT THERE'S NOWHERE IN THAT DOCUMENT DOES IT SAY THAT YOU SHOULD NOT USE EXISTING THOROUGH RIGHT OF WAY OR THOROUGHFARE PLANS ON ROADWAYS. AND SO I STILL, I AGREE WITH SUSAN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND. IF YOU HAVE PLEASANTON ROAD AND IT'S EASIER TO MAKE THAT A BIGGER RIGHT OF WAY, THEN WHY WOULD YOU WANNA DIVIDE SOMEBODY'S PRIVATE PROPERTY WITH A ROAD? I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO SEEING WHAT FEASIBLE OUT THERE ON PLEASANTON ROAD. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE, THE ISSUES ARE AND WHAT'S NEEDED 86 FEET OF RIGHT AWAY VERSUS TWO HUNDRED'S. A PRETTY BIG DIFFERENCE. UM, I'M JUST LOOKING AT, UH, HOW CLOSE MITCHELL LAKE IS RIGHT THERE WITH THE FLOODPLAIN KIND OF ON THAT FLOODPLAIN KIND OF ON THAT SOUTHERN PARTS NORTH, THE CURRENT ALIGNMENT. UM, BUT AGAIN, I, I'M JUST, I'M DESCRIBING WHAT KELLY PARKWAY IS ENVISIONED AS, IS THAT THROUGH CONNECTION, UM, EAST AND WEST. BUT, BUT THE, UH, UH, THE 200 FEET, WHETHER IT'S TRACKING PARALLEL ON PLEASANTON ROAD OR IT'S THROUGH SOMEBODY'S PRIVATE PROPERTY, IS STILL 200 FEET. AND SO I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND, AND, AND THIS IS, AND, AND I'LL DEFER TO THE PEOPLE IN THE TRAFFIC AND THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, BUT I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULDN'T TRY TO, TO ADD ON TO EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY. WELL, I'LL ADD TOO, THAT'S, THAT WAS SORT OF THE GOAL OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON MALMAN. THAT'S WHY THE GREEN LINE CONTINUES AS FAR AS WE CAN TO THE RAILROAD RIGHT AWAY. BUT WHILE KEEPING THE SAME ALIGNMENT, UM, THE SAME OFF OF A BLUE WING ROAD WHERE BEFORE IT, IT JUMPED OFF A FEW HUNDRED FEET SHORT, WHERE WE WANTED TO CONTINUE IT ALL THE WAY TO UP IN 1937 BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT ALIGNMENT'S ALREADY THERE AND WE KNOW THAT RIGHTAWAY IS ALREADY THERE AND THERE'S A LESS IMPACT. UM, SO WE DID DO OUR BEST TO MITIGATE WITH THAT, BUT ALSO WHILE TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE THROUGH CONNECTION KELLEY PARKWAY. OKAY. AND GREG, LET ME ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION. IF I LOOK AT YOUR PROPOSED REALIGNMENT, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, UH, IT'S TO THE WEST OR THE SOUTHWEST OF THE BLACK AND BLUE LINE, I'M NOW CROSSING TWO RAILROAD LINES INSTEAD OF ONE. YOU WOULD, BUT, UM, THERE'S A CHANCE THAT IF MALMAN ROAD WAS TO BE A THOROUGHFARE THAT IS MOVING KELLY PARKWAY TRAFFIC WITH FREIGHT, THAT THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ELEVATED AS WELL, JUST TO THE, LIKE A, A A FEW HUNDRED FEET MAYBE TO THE, TO THE WEST OR THE EAST OF WHERE THAT CURVE IS ON THE GREEN LINE. SO I THINK THAT THAT WOULD NEED TO BE IMPROVED AS WELL IN THE FUTURE BETWEEN PLEASANTON ROAD AND WHERE IT SAYS KELLY PARKWAY. I, I GUESS I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. BUT, UH, I'LL DEFER TO THE REST OF MY, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS. THANK YOU MONICA SAVINA. THANK YOU. UM, I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. UM, BEING LESS FAMILIAR WITH THIS, UH, PROJECT THAN MANY OF Y'ALL, UM, IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND THE, UH, REALIGNMENT ISSUES, CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UH, KELLY PARKWAY [00:35:01] SEGMENT IN THE MIDDLE? YES. IS THAT, IS THAT, UM, A FIRM ALIGNMENT? AND WHAT, WHEN WAS THE PUBLIC PROCESS FOR THAT PARTICULAR SEGMENT? UM, AB ABSOLUTELY. SO KELLY PARKWAY IN THE MIDDLE SEGMENT BETWEEN PLEASANTON AND, AND US TWO, ONE. SO THIS CAME UP, UM, LAST YEAR, UM, AS PART OF THE NAVISTAR DEVELOPMENT. SO IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT WHERE THE BLACK AND BLUE DASH LINES SORT OF T RIGHT NOW MM-HMM. , THAT CONNECTION USED TO BE FURTHER NORTH MM-HMM. . UM, BUT WITH NAVISTAR COMING IN, UM, WE NEEDED TO MAKE A SHIFT OF THE, FOR THE KELLY PARKWAY AMENDMENT OR FOR THE KELLY PARKWAY THOROUGH THERE. UM, SO THE PUBLIC PROCESS FOR THAT WAS THAT WE HOSTED A PUBLIC MEETING. UM, THIS MEETING WAS VIRTUAL, I CAN'T TELL YOU THE EXACT DATE, BUT IT WAS PROBABLY JANUARY, FEBRUARY OR SO OF 2020. UM, SO WE WERE ABLE TO, IT IS A SIMILAR MEETING TO WHAT WE HAD LAST NIGHT FOR THIS ONE, AND ABLE TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN PROCESS IS AND HOW IT WORKS AND HOW THEY CAN BE IMPACTED. UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE SOMETIMES THINK THAT THIS IS AN ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT'S COMING, AND WE HAVE TO REMIND 'EM THIS IS A, THIS IS A, THIS A LONG RANGE PLANNING PROCESS. UM, SO THAT AMENDMENT ENDED UP BEING RECOMMENDED BY PLANNING COMMISSION TAC AND, AND PLANNING COMMISSION AND, UH, APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR. AND WE CAME BACK AT THE, WE CAME BACK AND WE WANTED TO FURTHER STUDY THIS SECTION SO THE EAST AND THE WEST FOR PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION FOR OUR ALIGNMENT. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY NOW. OKAY. YOU DIDN'T WANNA LEAVE THOSE TWO INTERSECTIONS SITTING TOO LONG. OF COURSE, OF COURSE. UH, AND SO I'M ASSUMING THAT, UM, GREAT CONSIDERATION WAS TAKEN FOR THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE PARK, UH, THAT THAT SETS THAT PINK SEGMENT GOES THROUGH. CORRECT. AND AT THE TIME, UM, SO SAWS OWNS QUITE A BIT OF LAND, UM, SOUTH OF MITCHELL LAKE RIGHT THERE MM-HMM. , AND WE HAVE BEEN IN SOME REALLY CLOSE COORDINATION WITH THEM FOR THE PAST YEAR. UM, THEY'RE REQUIRED BY THE E P A TO DESIGNATE, UM, AND CREATE SOME WETLANDS MM-HMM. , UM, AS PART OF THE OUTFLOW FROM MITCHELL LAKE. SO WE WORKED WITH THEM ON THIS ALIGNMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE POSING SOMETHING THAT WAS PRACTICAL AND FEASIBLE FOR THEM AS WELL AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE EAST OFF OF 2 81 SOUTH OFF. YES, CORRECT. BECAUSE THERE IS A, LOOKS LIKE A PRETTY WELL ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD, WONDERING WHY THAT ALIGNMENT DIDN'T GO A LITTLE BIT NORTH OF THAT. YES. SO THE ISSUE WAS THE OVERHEAD TRANSMISSION LINES. UM, THERE'S QUITE A FEW TOWERS THAT ARE RUNNING PARALLEL TO EACH OTHER. MM-HMM. . UM, SO WE ARE TRYING TO UTILIZE THE MOST RIGHT OF WAY AS POSSIBLE MM-HMM. , UM, THROUGHOUT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, WITHOUT IMPACTING AS MANY HOMES AS WE CAN. UM, BUT ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE, EVERYONE WITHIN 200 FEET OF BOTH OF THESE LINES, UM, DID RECEIVE AN INVITE TO THE MEETING LAST NIGHT AND THEY HAVE MY PHONE NUMBER AND INFORMATION FOR OKAY. THAT WOULD YEAH. PRETTY MUCH DECIMATE THAT ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, BUT GOING TO THE ALIGNMENT ON THE WEST SIDE. YES. UM, UH, CAN YOU, UM, I TEND TO AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES WHO, UM, ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ADDED RIGHT OF WAY IN CONSTRUCTION THROUGH, UM, A NEW AREA. UM, BUT MY QUESTION WOULD BE, WHAT IS THE INCREASE OF LENGTH, ROADWAY LENGTH FOR THE PROPOSED REALIGNMENT VERSUS THE CURRENT ADOPTED ONE? UM, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY. UM, LET ME SEE. THAT LOOKS, SO I KNOW IT'S ABOUT, I THINK THE GREEN LINE IS ABOUT 1.9 MILES OR SO. UHHUH , UM, THE BLUE AND BLACK DASH ONE, I DON'T KNOW, IT MIGHT BE CLOSER TO MAYBE A MILE AND A HALF OR SO. I, I, I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER AT THIS SECOND. OKAY. THE GREEN LOOKS IN LENGTH, UM, NOTABLY LONGER. SO I WOULD ASSUME THAT WOULD INCREASE CONSTRUCTION COST. IT WOULD HAVE A HUNDRED YEAH. BEING ALSO RIGHT. AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT THERE WOULD BE ALSO A DIFFERENT CONSTRUCTION, UM, CONSIDERATION SO CLOSE TO THE FLOODPLAIN AS IT DOES CONNECT WITH, UH, THE PLEASANTON ROAD INTERSECTION. YEAH. AND WE WERE LOOKING, THAT WAS PART OF THE, UM, OUR DISCUSSION BACK IN EARLY APRIL WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WHERE WE TIED IT IN, UM, AT PLEASANTON ROAD, IT COULD BE FEASIBLE AND WE CROSS MM-HMM. AND KEEP OUT MM-HMM. . AND ALSO SHOULD THIS PROPOSED ALIGNMENT BE ADOPTED, SHOULD IT PROCEED AND CONTINUE, IS THERE A, A PROCESS IN PLACE WHERE COULD THERE BE A, A, A COULD COMPANION PROCESS THAT WOULD, UM, PUT FUNDING TO THE, UM, IMPROVEMENT OF PLEASANTON ROAD TO THE NORTH TO REINSTATE A LOCAL, UM, UH, ROADWAY TO, UH, COULD YOU YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? I'M SORRY. OH, UH, IF THIS IS A, IF THE ADOPTION, THE PROPOSAL AND THE REALIGNMENT IS ADOPTED AND IT GOES, UM, FURTHER CONTINUES, IS THERE, UM, A PROCESS OR A MEANS BY WHICH A NORTHERN PORTION OF THE PLEASANTON ROAD COULD RECEIVE FUNDING TO [00:40:01] REINSTATE LOCAL ROADWAY, UM, CONDITIONS? UM, BECAUSE, 'CAUSE IT, IT MAY NO LONGER NEED TO HANDLE AS MUCH TRAFFIC. YES. YES. UM, IT'S POSSIBLE. IT JUST, IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHEN THIS WOULD BE BUILT. UM, TYPICALLY A LOT OF OUR THOROUGHFARES ARE BUILT AS DEVELOPMENT OCCURS. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CITY BUILT ARTERIALS. UM MM-HMM. , WE WE'RE, WE, WE MAINTAIN A LOT. WE, WE MAY EXPAND MM-HMM. SOME, UM, BUT GENERALLY IT'S BUILT AS DEVELOPMENT OCCURS. UM, I THINK THERE'S ALWAYS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT. OKAY. UM, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW RIGHT THIS SECOND. I THINK IT'S MORE DOWN THE ROAD WHEN, WHEN WE KNOW THIS PROJECT IS FUNDED AND, AND WHAT ARE SOME MORE ALTERNATIVES. YEAH. YEAH. I WOULD, UM, OKAY. UM, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE EXTENT OF MY QUESTIONS FOR RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOOD. GOOD MORNING. THIS IS MARGARITA HERNANDEZ. I'M THE ASSISTANT TO THE DIRECTOR FOR THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT. I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT IF GREG CLARIFIED, THIS IS JUST THE PLANNING DOCUMENT. THERE ARE NO FUNDING MECHANISMS, THERE IS NO PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. WE'RE NOT DEFINING THE ALIGNMENT. IT'S MORE, UM, IT, LIKE RICK SAID, A LOT OF THIS IS A LOT OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE THOROUGHFARE IS DONE THROUGH DEVELOPMENT. SO DEVELOPMENT IS THE ONE THAT TRIGGERS THAT CONSTRUCTION. BUT WE, WE DO NOT DO IT THROUGH THIS PROCESS. AND IT WOULD BE A LONG, LONG TIME IF WE EVER WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTION. THEN. I WONDER, GREG, IF YOU COULD ALSO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY OF THE KELLY PARKWAY AND WHEN ORIGINALLY GOT DEVELOPED IN ALL THE PUBLIC OUTREACH THAT WAS DONE BY THEN BY T STOCK. YEAH. SO IT WAS, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY PUT BACK IN 2003, UM, THE BLACK AND BLUE DASH LINE, UM, AND THE REST OF KELLY PARKWAY AND, AND SOME EXTENSIVE OUTREACH WAS DONE. UM, IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO ON THAT. UM, BUT AGAIN, AS MARGARITA MENTIONED, UM, JUST THE ALIGNMENT FOR NOW. UM, BUT ONCE FUNDING IS IDENTIFIED OR THE CITY DECIDES THAT THEY WANT TO, TO MOVE ON THIS, THEN WE COULD EXPLORE WHAT COULD BE DONE WITH PLEASANTER. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY. UH, NEXT IS ERIC ESRA. NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. PHILLIP MANNA, I GUESS I JUST HAVE THE SECOND CONCERNS WITH REGARDS TO LEVERAGING PLEASANTON. UM, BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, I'M GOOD. JODY CHERYL. UM, CONSIDERING THAT THIS IS A LONG RANGE PROJECT, GOING FROM THE BLUE LINE TO A GREEN LINE IS NOTHING REALLY SIGNIFICANT AND COULD BE CHANGED IN THE FUTURE AS DEVELOPMENT OCCURS, JUST AS WE DID WITH THE LAST ROUND OF KELLY PARKWAY. I HAVE A MAJOR CONCERN ABOUT TRYING TO USE PLEASANTON ROAD BECAUSE WE'RE TAKING, WE'RE DOUBLING THE FRONTAGE ON PLEASANTON ROAD, TAKING THAT AWAY FROM EXISTING STRUCTURES, AND WE'RE GONNA COME IN, WE'RE GONNA ENCOUNTER A LOT OF, UH, CONDEMNATION RIGHTS AND STUFF IN ORDER TO DO THAT. AND IT MAY NEVER BE DEVELOPED BECAUSE THERE WON'T BE ANY DEVELOPMENT THERE ALONG THAT ROAD. THAT'S AWESOME. OKAY. THANK YOU JODY. DEBBIE REED? YES. THANK YOU. UM, I AGREE WITH JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING MY COLLEAGUES HAVE STATED AND LOOKING AT THE ALIGNMENT OF KELLY PARKWAY ALONG THE TRANSMISSION LINES THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ADOPTED AND DIPPING DOWN TO THE FLOODPLAIN IS A CONCERN, BUT I, IT APPEARS THAT WE'RE ADDING LENGTH, WE'RE TAKING MORE PRIVATE PROPERTY, AND THAT THERE'S THE, THE CONSIDERATION OF WHAT IT WOULD DO TO THOSE PROPERTIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ANYWAY. I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE NEW ALIGNMENT AT THE VERY TOP THERE WHERE THE, UH, ALIGNMENT GOES UP TO THE EXISTING, WAS THAT MARMON MARMON ROAD? CORRECT. THAT LOOKS REALLY GOOD. BUT THAT SLOPING DOWN TO THE EXISTING PINK, UH, ADOPTED IS WHERE MY CONCERNS WOULD LAY. OKAY. THANK YOU, DEBBIE. THAT'S IT. THANKS. THANK YOU. UH, BRITTANY. DEB, NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, SO I JUST HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. THE FIRST, SO WHAT IS IT, MURMAN ROAD IS THAT IS, THAT'S [00:45:01] THE ONE ON THE TOP WHERE IT SAYS KELLY PARKWAY, RIGHT? WAY UP ON THE TOP, CORRECT? ON THE NORTH SIDE, YES. OKAY. AND MA AND IT EXTENDS ALL THE WAY OVER TO PLEASANTON, RIGHT? CORRECT. RIGHT. UM, SO IF WE WERE TO DO, YOU KNOW, WHEN EVERYBODY IS UH, UM, KIND OF IN AGREEMENT WITH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF FOLKS ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, IS LEVERAGING PLEASANTON ROAD FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF KELLY PARKWAY. UH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A SIGNIFICANT RIGHT OF WAY TAKING ALONG THE CURRENT ALIGNMENT OF PLEASANTON ROAD DOWN AT THE KIND OF WHERE, UM, PLEASANTON ROAD INTERSECTS JUST NORTH OF WHERE INTERSECTS THE TRANSMISSION LINE EASEMENT, YOU KNOW, IT'S SQUEEZING IN THERE BETWEEN, I GUESS THAT'S MIC MITCHELL LAKE AND THE RAILROAD TRACKS. SORRY, HEAR THAT AGAIN? I WAS LOOKING AT THE, THE PUBLIC ON SCREEN. I'M SORRY. SO WHERE PLEASANTON ROAD JUST NORTH OF WHERE PLEASANTON ROAD INTERSECTS THE TRANSMISSION LINE EASEMENT? YES. IT GETS REAL NARROW THERE BETWEEN MITCHELL LAKE AND I GUESS THAT'S TRANSMISSION LINE EASEMENTS THERE. YES. IS SO IS THERE 200 FEET THERE BETWEEN THE EASEMENTS AND MITCHELL LAKE? BETWEEN THE RAILROAD AND THE YEAH, UM, LEMME SEE THERE BETWEEN THE RAILROAD RIGHT AWAY AND MITCHELL LAKE, I GUESS IT IS. YEAH. LET ME, UM, IF YOU GIMME ONE MOMENT, I CAN CHECK AND GIVE YOU A GENERAL IDEA. HEY GEORGE, THIS IS ROBERT HANLEY. PLEASANTON IS A TYPE, UH, A ARTERIAL 110 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY SO THAT IF YOU SAID YOU NEEDED 200 FEET BE 45 FEET ON EITHER SIDE OF THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY ON PLEASANTON VERSUS CORRECT ROBERT. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. YOU'RE CORRECT. UM, THERE ARE, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE FLOOD PLAIN MAP, I MEAN, I'M KIND OF IN AGREEMENT THAT THAT THAT ALIGNMENT USING PLEASANTON IS PROBABLY THE BETTER USE OF THE LAND, BUT I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM. UM, I'M LOOKING AT THE, THE ONE STOP MAP. UM, THERE'S A PORTION OF PLEASANTON, UM, IT'S APPROXIMATELY, LET'S SEE, RIGHT, RIGHT WHERE THAT, WHERE MITCHELL LAKE FLOODPLAIN IS, IT'S APPROXIMATELY A 400 FOOT SECTION THAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE FLOODPLAIN OF THAT PLEASANTON ROAD IS IN. UM, SO IF WE WERE TO LOOK, I'LL MEASURE FROM THE FURTHEST WE CAN GET OUT OF THE FLOOD PLANE TO THE, ABOUT WHERE THE RAILROAD RIGHT OF WAY IS, I'M GETTING 163 FEET. THAT'S JUST, THAT'S BASED ON THE D S C ONE STOP MAP. YEAH. SO WE'RE 50 FEET SHORT OF THE 200 FEET REQUIRED AT THAT POINT. RIGHT? THERE'S, YEAH, THERE'S ABOUT 150 OR SO BETWEEN THE RAILROAD AND THE FLOOD PLAIN WITH THE PORTION OF THE EXISTING ROADWAY IN THE FLOOD PLAIN. SO WOULD THE, SO IF THE ROAD IS BUILT AND THE FLOODPLAIN, I GUESS IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ELEVATED AND THERE'S PROBABLY ALL KINDS OF OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES TO GO ALONG WITH THAT. YEAH. THERE WOULD JUST NEED TO BE THINGS THAT WE WOULD'VE TO, YEAH. TO TALK WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED. YEAH. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTIONS. HEY, GEORGE. YES, SIR. UH, THIS ROBERT HAMLEY AGAIN. YEP. YOU KNOW, AS THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, INCREASES TO THE WEST OF THIS LOCATION, THIS LITTLE FLOODPLAINS THAT ARE INDICATED ON THE MAP AT THE LOWER PART OF THE, THE PROPOSED GREEN LINES THAT FLOODPLAINS CAN EXPAND. SO DONALD, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT WE LOOK AT IT TODAY. AND I KNOW THAT WHAT JODY SAID, AND IT'S A PLANNING DOCUMENT, IT COULD CHANGE IN THE FUTURE, BUT THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION OF THE TRANSMISSION LINE, PLEASANTON ROAD AND THE FLOOD PLAIN IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE AN ISSUE. SO IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE ELEVATED, WHETHER IT'S IN THE GREEN LOCATION, IT'S ALONG PLEASANTON ROAD, OR IT'S IN THE BLACK AND BLUE LOCATION. IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT PLANNING EXERCISE RIGHT THERE. BUT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND THAT FLOODPLAIN AS DEVELOPMENT INCREASES BECAUSE IT'S FEEDING, IT'S FEEDING TO THE EAST. THANK YOU, ROBERT, YOU REALLY EXPRESSED MY CONCERNS PERFECTLY. THANK YOU FOR DOING A BETTER JOB OF THAT. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT WHERE THE, UH, GREEN LINE CROSSES THE TRANSMISSION LINE, YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED THAT THAT'S GONNA BE FLOODPLAIN SOMEDAY DUE TO INCREASE IN FLOODPLAIN? YES. I'M GONNA SAY IT SHOULD BE EXPANDED FLOODPLAIN, BECAUSE IF YOU GO WEST TOWARDS TOYOTA AND ALL THAT AREA, THAT'S NOT HIGHLY DEVELOPED TO THE WEST OF THERE, GEORGE. AND SO WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING IN TODAY'S BY, BY THE, THE, THE MAPS IS [00:50:01] A FLOODPLAIN THAT IS, YOU KNOW, JUST THIS LITTLE PIECE SOUTH OF THE PROPOSED GREEN LINE THAT'S GONNA EXPAND. WELL, AND IT ALSO, THE FACT REMAINS IS THAT, I GUESS THOSE ARE RAILROAD SPURS GOING INTO TOYOTA THERE, THOSE TWO WHITE LINES. SO WE'RE GONNA BE ELEVATED OVER THOSE TWO. CORRECT. ANYWAY, I I, YOU KNOW, GEORGE AS JODY SAYS THIS, THIS IS A PLANNING THING. YEAH. I JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S, I I DON'T, IT'S A TOUGH AREA, THE CITY'S PURPOSE OF, OF GETTING THIS DONE. IT COULD CHANGE AT A LATER DATE, BUT I, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH, UH, NOT TRYING TO LEVERAGE BECAUSE IF I HAVE A TYPE A ARTERIAL OF 110 FEET ALONG PLEASANTON ROAD AND TO DO A PARKWAY 9,200, THAT'S 90 FEET, 45 EITHER SIDE, HOW MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE IS IT TO, TO ACQUIRE ADDITIONAL 90 FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY VERSUS 200 FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY THROUGH SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY? WELL, MUCH OF WHICH WOULD HAVE TO BE, MUCH OF, WHICH WOULD'VE TO BE BY CONDEMNATION. EXACTLY. MORE THAN LIKELY. ANYWAY, BARRY, THESE, UM, THE FLOODPLAINS ARE THE ATLAS 14, IS THAT CORRECT? UM, I MIGHT ASK D S D THIS IS WHAT'S PULLED UP ON THE D S D ONE STOP MAP. NOT YET THE, I I DON'T THINK IT IS. UM, THIS IS NOT ATLAS 14. WELL THEN IT'S ALREADY BIGGER. ATLAS 14 IS YEAH, YEAH. ATLAS 14 STILL HAS TO HAVE THE PROCESS OF DOING THE PUBLIC OUTREACH AND DOING ALL OF THAT PROCESS. SO THESE ARE NOT BASED, THESE ARE BASED ON CURRENT FEMA, NOT ULTIMATE DEVELOPMENT THEN IT'S, IT'S BASED ON ULTIMATE DEVELOPMENT, GEORGE. BUT THOSE ARE THE ADOPTED MAPS. THE ATLAS 14 HAS STILL NOT BEEN ADOPTED. WE DON'T KNOW. IT COULD HAVE, IT COULD HAVE MADE IT WORSE, COULD HAVE MADE IT BETTER BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UM, DEVELOPMENT IS REQUIRED TO DO ULTIMATE DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS. RIGHT? MM-HMM. . SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AT THE END OF THE DAY, BUT THIS IS THE ADOPTED MAP THAT CURRENTLY IS REGULATED BY FEMA AND THE CITY. YEAH. AND MARGARITA, WHAT IS THE, THE DATE OF, OF THIS MAP? IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN WAS THIS MAP DEVELOPED THAT'S ADOPTED BY FEMA? THIS IS PROBABLY THE, THE MOST RECENT ONE, WHICH I KNOW FOR SURE, 2010, WERE THE ONES THAT WE DID THAT EXTENSIVE EXERCISE OF ADOPTING IT. I DON'T KNOW IF THROUGH TOYOTA THEY CAME AND DID A MAP AMENDMENT TO THE FEMA MAP. I'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN SECTION, UM, DOING MORE OF THE COUNCIL AND TRANSPORTATION, BUT CERTAINLY WE CAN GET YOU THOSE ANSWERS. BUT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY WHEN TOYOTA CAME THROUGH THERE DEVELOPMENT AND IF NOT, IT'S THE 2010. OKAY. ANY OTHER WAY TOYOTA WOULD'VE BEEN PRE-APP WAS 14 TOO. YES, THAT IS CORRECT. THIS IS OUR, THIS IS ARMANDO NEELA. YEAH. FROM WHAT I CAN SEE USING R G I S, IT IS A STUDY BLOOD PLAN LIKELY MORE RECENT WITH THE TOYOTA STUFF. IT IS STUDIED MORE RECENT THAN TOYOTA. I BELIEVE IT WAS DONE WITH THE TOYOTA. I I CAN GET THE, THE FEMA METHOD MAP DATE HERE IN JUST A SECOND. IF I CAN TRACK THAT DOWN, I'LL LET YOU KNOW. OKAY. WOULDN'T THE, THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND 20 10, 20 2009? IT'S MORE THAN LIKELY IT IS THE 2010 WHEN WE ADOPTED. YES. THE FEMA MAP. IT'S MORE ONE, IT'S 2010. I JUST, I JUST CONFIRMED THAT. OKAY. OKAY. THANKS ARMANDO. YOU'RE WELCOME. HEY GEORGE, THIS IS ROBERT HANLEY AGAIN. YEAH. WHAT, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE THE COMMITTEE'S OPTIONS AT THIS TIME? OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN APPROVE IT OR YOU CAN TURN IT DOWN. I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE OPTION IS, IS TO SEND IT BACK TO THE CITY AND SAY, COME ON, IS THERE ANOTHER OPTION BESIDES Y YAY OR NAYYY? YEAH, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OPTIONS IN, YOU KNOW, IN FRONT OF US. WE COULD EITHER APPROVE IT, YOU KNOW, AS THEY PROPOSED. WE CAN DENY IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DENY IT. I GUESS THEY COME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT ALIGNMENT OR WE CAN KIND OF SAY, YOU KNOW, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALWAYS CONTINUE IT AND SAY, TAKE A LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, LEVERAGING PLEASANTON ROAD AND SEE WHAT, SEE WHAT HAPPENS. OKAY. THANK YOU. OR WE COULD, YOU KNOW, MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION. WE COULD, WE COULD MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION. YEAH. MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A, A QUESTION. UH, WHO'S SPEAKING? UH, THIS IS CARNE GONZALEZ. OKAY. UM, FOR, FOR STAFF. CAN Y'ALL REITERATE THE, THE PURPOSE, THE GOAL, UM, THE TRIGGER FOR THIS PLAN? I HEARD, UM, NAVISTAR AND, AND SO MY CONCERN ESPECIALLY 'CAUSE WE SAID THAT THIS IS A LONG-TERM PLAN. MY CONCERN IS THAT NAVISTAR IS A MAJOR EMPLOYER, UH, HAVING HUNDREDS OF EMPLOYEES HAVING, I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE THE INGRESS AGGRESSIVE TRAFFIC AND THEY'RE ALREADY OPEN. AND SO IF THAT WAS THE TRIGGER, I I'M, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED WITH THE TIMELINE OR, OR THE [00:55:01] SENSE OF URGENCY WITH THIS. SURE. I'LL, I'LL, I'LL GO BACK. SO, KELLY PARKWAY WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL IN 2003. UM, THE SECTION OF KELLY PARKWAY IN PINK RIGHT HERE FROM PLEASANTON TO US, 2 81 RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN. SO THAT SECTION WAS SIFTED SOUTH, UM, EARLIER THIS YEAR WITH THE NAVISTAR DEVELOPMENT, UH, BECAUSE THE, THE, THE, THE PARKWAY WAS ON TOP OF WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT WAS GOING. SO, UM, AT THE TIME WE, WE ONLY AMENDED THIS ONE SECTION RIGHT HERE. WE'RE COMING BACK AT A LATER DATE WITH THE PROPOSED RECOMMENDATION. UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY IS WE'RE COMING BACK. SO THE, THE KELLY PARKWAY PLAN, OR, OR THOROUGHFARE IS, IS ALMOST 20 YEARS OLD. BUT, UM, THIS AMENDMENT HERE IS, IS IN, IN COORDINATION WITH THE AMENDMENT FROM EARLIER THIS YEAR WHERE WE'RE COMING BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO, TO HAVE A CONTINUOUS OR A, JUST A, AN IMPROVED LINE THAT, THAT WE CAN BUILD ON IN THE FUTURE. SO, SO GREG, IF I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY, WE, WE HAVE THE TEMPORARY OR SOLUTION, UM, FOR THE NAPSTER TRAFFIC AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, THE PERMANENT FIX THAT THEY'RE OKAY FOR NOW. SURE. WELL, UM, SO YEAH, EVERY THE, THE KELLY PARKWAY SECTION IN PINK, THAT'S, NOTHING'S EVER PERMANENT, BUT THAT'S THE ADOPTED ALIGNMENT RIGHT NOW. THAT'S WHAT'S SHOWN THE THOROUGH FAIR PLAN. SO WE'RE JUST COMING BACK NOW AND, AND TYING IN THE WESTERN EASTERN SECTIONS TO THE REST OF THE AREA. UM, BUT, UH, THE CURRENT ONE WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS NOTHING TO DO WITH, WITH NAVISTAR NECESSARILY. THIS IS JUST TYING IN THE EASTERN WESTERN CONNECTIONS TO THE AMENDMENT BACK IN APRIL. SO, GREG, CAN YOU CLARIFY THE PINK SECTION, RIGHT. TIES TO PLEASANTON AND THEN PLEASANTON TIES TO THE BLUE AND BLACK ALIGNMENT, RIGHT? THAT IS WHAT CURRENTLY IS ADOPTED. THAT IS ALREADY IN PLACE. WE, WE HAVE DIFFERENT, AND IT COULD REMAIN IN PLACE. YES, IT COULD REMAIN IN PLACE NOTHING. BUT WE, THAT THE STAFF FELT THAT MAYBE A BETTER CONNECTION THROUGH THE GREEN MIGHT, MIGHT BE A BETTER OR PROPOSED ALIGNMENT. IS THAT CORRECT, GREG? CORRECT, YES. SO A QUESTION, THE PINK PORTION OF KELLY PARKWAY THAT'S DIPPING DOWN TO THE FLOODPLAIN, HAS THAT BEEN CONSTRUCTED OR IS THAT STILL JUST A, A PART OF THE ADOPTED PLAN? THAT'S A PART OF THE ADOPTED PLAN. THANKS. CHANGED THE WHOLE THING. AND THAT WAS ADOPTED EARLY THIS YEAR? YEAH. APRIL, 2021. THE PINK ALIGNMENT WAS ADOPTED. THIS, THIS YEAR? YES. OKAY. THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO WE BY CHANCE HAVE THIS, UM, ALIGNMENT OVERLAID ON AN AERIAL? IT IT IS ON AN AERIAL RIGHT NOW. THAT IS THE AERIAL. OKAY. THE MOST CURRENT AERIAL IS, IT'S NOT GONNA BE LIKE WHAT HAPPENED THIS SUMMER? IT, IT, IT'S MORE THAN LIKELY WHAT WE GOT FROM LAST YEAR'S. YEAH. BECAUSE YOU REALLY CAN'T, YOU KNOW, ON A, ON A NORMAL AREA, WE'D BE ABLE TO SEE THOSE TRANSMISSION LINES YOU PULLED IN A LITTLE BIT. SO THAT DOESN'T LOOK, THAT LOOKS LIKE A HYBRID . YEAH, THAT, YEAH. I, I TOOK THE LINE FOR THE TRANSMISSION. JUST SO TO BE CLEAR. ANY OTHER QUESTION? CAN STAFF GIVE US A BRIEF, UH, OVERVIEW? UH, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF, WE TALKED ABOUT OUR OPTIONS A LITTLE BIT AGO. CAN STAFF KIND OF GUIDE US THROUGH THAT AND WHAT HAPPENS WITH EACH OPTION WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US, GREG? WAS THAT FOR ME OR FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES? WHOEVER CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION. YOU KNOW, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GUIDE US THROUGH, IF WE APPROVE IT TODAY, OBVIOUSLY IT'S APPROVED. IF WE DENY IT, IF WE CONTINUE IT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE KIND OF WALK THROUGH IT. I THINK IF, IF, UM, IF WE APPROVE, WE APPROVE, RIGHT? I THINK IF WE WERE TO DENY, UM, THE CITY WILL STILL WANT TO COME BACK AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO, UM, 'CAUSE THERE'S, IT'S THE SAME AMENDMENT, RIGHT? I I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO APPROVE ONE SECTION OVER THE OTHER IF, IF THAT 1937 TO TWO ONE SEEMS TO BE OKAY, BUT MOST OF THE QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN WEST OF PLEASANTON. UM, MAYBE WE COULD CONTINUE WITH, WITH THAT SECTION AT LEAST AND COME BACK WITH, UH, THE OTHER SECTION. BUT, UM, I THINK IF PLANNING COMMISSION WAS TO, OR, OR ATTACK WAS TO [01:00:01] DENY, UM, CITY STAFF WILL STILL COME BACK WITH A, WITH ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION IN THE FUTURE. 'CAUSE I MEAN, IT'S AN IMPORTANT CONNECTION AND IT'S A . GREG COULD STAY THE WAY IT'S CORRECT, GREG. IT COULD STAY THE WAY IT IS. YEAH. BUT, BUT I THINK WE WOULD WANT TO COME BACK AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION IF, IF THE ADOPTED ALIGNMENT RIGHT NOW WEST PLEASANTON. I THINK IF THE, THE PROPOSED ALIGNMENT WEST PLEASANTON IS A CONCERN, I I THINK THE ADOPTED ALIGNMENT WEST PLEASANTON WOULD BE A CONCERN FOR EVERYONE ON THE CALL BECAUSE WE'RE STILL NOT UTILIZING PLEASANTON ROAD IS WHAT'S BEING SAID. SO WE WOULD STILL COME BACK AND HOPE AND BRING A RECOMMENDATION TO Y'ALL WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS. AND MAYBE WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO IT. BUT DOES THE TECH HAVE THE ABILITY TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A DIFFERENT ALIGNMENT THAN WHAT YOU HAVE SHOWN? I THINK SO, BUT I'M GONNA ASK TO ASK D S D STAFF IF THEY KNOW THAT I DON'T WHAT I HAVEN'T DONE THAT BEFORE. UM, GEORGE, YEP. YOU KNOW, AS A MINIMUM, I THINK THERE HAVE BEEN ENOUGH QUESTIONS RAISED ABOUT WHAT'S SHOWN TO AT LEAST HAVE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT FROM STAFF. UM, THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT COSTS. THIS IS IN THE FUTURE. I REALIZE THAT WHAT, YOU KNOW, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, BIFURCATING THE, THE CURRENT LAND, ET CETERA. I MEAN, I THINK WE'VE AT LEAST RAISED ENOUGH QUESTIONS THAT THERE SHOULD BE ANOTHER GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE FEEDBACK AND SEE IF SOMETHING SEEMS MORE LOGICAL FINANCIALLY AND FROM A PRACTICAL PERSPECTIVE. UM, SO, UM, IF YOU WANT THAT IN THE WAY OF A MOTION, I WOULD SO MOVE THAT THAT'S WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATION BE, IS THAT AT LEAST BE REVISITED AGAIN AND THAT WE NOT TAKE ACTION APPROVING OR DISAPPROVING, BUT RATHER ASK THAT THEY EVALUATE THE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS OR OPTIONS THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED. HONESTLY, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE COURSE OF ACTION THAT I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I'M NOT ENTIRELY COMFORTABLE WITH EITHER DENYING OR APPROVING OR RELOCATING AT THIS STAGE. UM, RIGHT. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH. NO. THERE'S ENOUGH QUESTIONS ON THE TABLE THAT EVERYBODY'S ASKED. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE VETTED A LITTLE BIT MORE. WOULD IT, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS MAP WITH THE ATLAS 14, EVEN THOUGH IT HASN'T BEEN ADOPTED, IT'S KIND OF ASSUMED IT WILL BE. AND OF COURSE THAT'S 2014 DATA, SO IT'S ALREADY, WE CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT EXERCISE, DEBBIE. YES, WE CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT. YES. THANK YOU. I WOULD FEEL SO MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION OF SOME KIND. YOU WANNA, CAN I MAKE THAT MOTION THAT I JUST MADE THAT WE REQUEST STAFF TO GO BACK AND REEVALUATE UM, THE COMMENTS THAT THEY HAVE HEARD TODAY IN TERMS OF ALTERNATE ALIGNMENTS AND THEN, UH, RE-LOOK AT THIS AT ANOTHER MEETING IN THE FUTURE. NICE MOTION. SUSAN WRIGHT ROBERT HANLEY WILL SECOND IT. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY SUSAN WRIGHT AND A SECOND BY MR. ROBERT HANLEY. UH, WILL STAFF PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL? VOTE. MS. GONZALEZ. MS. CARILLO HAYNES? NO. MR. SIPES? YES. MR. TEAL? YES. MS. WRIGHT? YES. MS. FAIRMONT? YES. MR. LEMAN? NO. MS. PAGAN? YES. MR. BLA? YES. MR. BROWN? NO. MR. HANLEY? YES. MS. SALVINO? YES. MR. ESTRADA? YES. MR. MANNA? YES. MR. CHERYL? YES. MS. REED? YES. MS. DALE. [01:05:08] MS. GONZALEZ? YES. MS. DALE? MY APOLOGIES. MS. DELL, ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME? MY APOLOGIES. YES. YES, MR. PECK? YES. MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S ALL THE NEW BUSINESS WE HAVE FOR TODAY. SO OLD [Old Business  ] BUSINESS WILL BE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE OCTOBER 20TH, 2021 MEETING. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MINUTES? IF THERE ARE NONE, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. ROBERT HANLEY, MOVE APPROVAL. MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY MR. ROBERT HANLEY. SECOND FOR CONNIE GONZALEZ. SECOND FROM CONNIE GONZALEZ. STAFF, PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL. WE COULD DO UNANIMOUS VOTE. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE FROM STAFF AT THIS POINT? NOTHING LEFT ON THE AGENDA. AWESOME. WELL, THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR ATTENDING. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TODAY AND, UH, HOPE Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD, HAD A GOOD THANKSGIVING AND HAVE A GOOD CHRISTMAS. 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'LL BE MEETING BEFORE THAT. GEORGE. YEAH, MICHAEL MOORE. I'VE BEEN ON THIS CALL. I JUST, I HADN'T BEEN ABLE TO RESPOND. OKAY. SO I'VE BEEN ON SINCE THE VERY FIRST OH, YOU, YOU'VE BEEN ON IN THE BEGINNING? YES. OKAY. WERE YOU NOT ABLE TO CHIME IN OR WHAT WERE YOU HAVING AUDIO? WHAT, WHAT WAS GOING ON? YEAH, HAVING A LITTLE PROBLEM. MY AUDIO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, DID YOU HAVE ANY, UH, ISSUES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT OR NO? NO. YOU'RE GOOD? YEP. ALRIGHT. THANKS MICHAEL. APPRECIATE IT. ALRIGHT EVERYBODY. WELL IT IS 10 0 7 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU, GEORGE. YES SIR. THANK YOU, GEORGE. THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. THANKS GUYS. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.