* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.
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           HELLO? GOOD MORNING. 
          I CAN SEE. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          ARE WE READY TO START THIS SHOW? YES. 
          ALRIGHT, LET'S HAVE A CALL TO ORDER, PLEASE. 
          ROLL CALL. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SAY. 
          DWAYNE NELSON. 
          JESSE ZUNIGA. 
          HERE. 
          MEGAN RODRIGUEZ. 
          ROBERT TAPIA. 
          HERE. 
          MICHAEL HARPER. 
          PRESENT MS. BROWN? HERE. 
          FRED ANDES? HERE. 
          LANCIA GUILLORY. 
          PRESENT. 
          JOSHUA POWELL. 
          A QUORUM IS PRESENT. 
          GREAT. 
          UH, LET ME ASK YOU, MEGAN RODRIGUEZ ISN'T ON THE PANEL ANYMORE, IS SHE? YES. 
          MS. RODRIGUEZ IS STILL ON THE PANEL. 
          WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY TYPE OF RESIGNATION MEMO FROM HER. 
          I, BUT I THOUGHT WE HAD SENT HER A LETTER. 
          I BELIEVE THAT WAS, UM, ERNA. 
          PERON? YEAH. 
          UH, I'M SORRY. 
          I, I I KNOW WE SENT HER ONE, BUT, UH, WE PROBABLY NEED TO SEND RODRIGUEZ ONE TOO. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          MOVING RIGHT ALONG. 
          APPROVAL OF MINUTES. 
          UH, DID EVERYONE GET A COPY OF THE MINUTES FROM LAST YEAR? ? YES. 
          DOES EVERYBODY REMEMBER WHAT, WHAT WENT DOWN LAST YEAR? MADAM PRESIDENT? I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE LAST MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION? UH, WE HAVE A SECOND. 
          FROM, FROM EITHER MICAH OR TAPIA. 
          TWO SECONDS. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE TWO SECONDS. 
          AND, UM, DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT 'EM? NO DISCUSSION. 
          ELDER? YES. 
          COULD YOU SPEAK UP A LITTLE LOUDER? I'M SORRY. 
          YES. 
          UH, WE HAVE A, A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          NO DISCUSSION. 
          AND, UH, COULD WE GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MR. ZUNIGA? HERE? YEAH. 
          MR. TAPIA? YES. 
          MR. HARPER? YES. 
          MS. BROWN? YES. 
          MR. ANDIS? YES. 
          MS. GUILLORY? YES. 
          THE MOTION PASSES. 
          SIX TO ZERO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, I THINK WE CAN JUST VOTE NORMAL. 
          OKAY. 
          WE CAN DO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          IS NEXT ON THE AGENDA, MS. BROWNIE? WE CAN QUICKLY READ THE INTERPRETATION SERVICES. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A SPANISH INTERPRETATION. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          MY NAME IS JEAN MARIE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          THAT WAS QUICK. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UH, TELL ME WHEN DOES THE CHAIRMAN STATEMENT COME IN HERE? 'CAUSE I DON'T SEE IT. 
          UM, WELL, I HAVE IT, BUT I DON'T SEE IT ON THE AGENDA. 
          NO, MA'AM. 
          JUST ON, YOU CAN READ THE CHAIRMAN'S STATEMENTS NOW. 
          IT'S NOT ON THE ACTUAL AGENDA. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, QUORUM IS PRESENT. 
          PLEASE NOTE THAT IT'S UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON PRESENT IN THIS BUILDING TO SOLICIT OR PETAL SERVICES REGARDING ANY PROPERTY UNDER CONSIDERATION BY THIS BOARD DURING THE COURSE OF THIS HEARING. 
          AS PER CITY SECTION CODE 16 DASH 2 36, IF ANYONE PRESENT WISHES TO SPEAK REGARDING ANY AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE SIGN IN ON THE PERSONS TO BE HEARD SHEET OR ADVISE A CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF MEMBER. 
          ALL PERSONS WISHING TO SPEAK SHALL BE CALLED FORWARD WHEN THEIR PROSPECTIVE CASE IS REACHED. 
          PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONE AT THIS TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NONE. 
          PUBLIC COMMENTS? I CAN'T SEE THAT FAR. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME. 
          ALRIGHT, SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION NOW. 
          UH, IT IS NOW, UH, 9 9 29 22 AND THE, UH, BILL WAS DOWN. 
          STANDARDS BOARD WILL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          OKAY. 
          THE B SS B IS, IS BACK IN SESSION. 
          UM, AND IT IS 10:23 AM 10:23 AM AND THE B 
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S B IS BACK IN REGULAR SESSION. 
          OKAY. 
          THE NEXT, UH, PART OF THE AGENDA IS THE SELECTION OF BOARD CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR. 
          MADAME CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, NOMINATE EVELYN BROWN FOR THE CHAIR. 
          SECOND. 
          WELL, THANK YOU ALL. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? YES. 
          I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE YOU ELLA, FOR, UH, CHAIRPERSON. 
          HMM. 
          NOW WE HAVE, UH, TWO PEOPLE NOMINATED FOR THE CHAIR. 
          IT'D BE LENCIA AND MYSELF. 
          I'M SORRY, A SECOND ON THAT. 
          YEAH, WE HAD A SECOND ON, ON MY NOMINATION, SO WE HAVE TO REDO THIS. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE. 
          WE NOMINATED LENCIA AND EVELYN FOR BOARD CHAIR. 
          UM, WHAT I TRYING TO DO IS, YOU KNOW, GET A PERSON THAT'S BEEN HERE ALL THE TIME, BEEN DOING AND TO GIVE HER AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, EVELYN, YOU THE CHAIRMAN OF BE, BUT TO GIVE THE PERSON ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY INSTEAD OF LET 'EM STAY HERE TWO, THREE YEARS AND BE STY. 
          YOU NEED TO GET SOMETHING TO GOING THOUGH. 
          THIS IS TWICE A YEAR. 
          UH, SHE WILL BE GETTING EN ENOUGH, UH, EXPERIENCE FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS. 
          SO THIS IS WHY I WAS DOING THIS. 
          WE DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE IN KEEPING A CHAIRPERSON FOR LIFE. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO THIS IS JUST A TRAINING FOR, UH, LENCIA. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I NOMINATED HER. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, WELL, IN TERMS OF DISCUSSION, I'D LIKE TO ASK HER IF, IF SHE WOULD LIKE TO DO IT. 
          I DEFINITELY WOULD. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE HAVE, AGAIN, WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE OF, FOR NOMINATION, WE HAVE LENCIA AND EVELYN. 
          SO I GUESS WE NEED A ROLL CALL FOR, UH, OH, NO, WE HAD NEED A SECOND. 
          YOU HAD A SECOND ALREADY? YES, BUT THAT WAS FOR ME. 
          FOR YOU, YES. 
          IS THERE A SECOND ON, AND IF I PRONOUNCE YOUR NAME WRONG, LENCIA. 
          CIA. 
          IS THERE A SECOND ON LENCIA? SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE BOTH HAVE, THEY'RE BOTH SECONDS. 
          WE HAVE SECOND. 
          YES. 
          SO NOW WE CAN GO TO A ROLL CALL NOW WE'LL GO TO A ROLL CALL. 
          MR. ZUNIGA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'M SORRY MR. ZUNIGA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO NOMINATE MS. GUILLORY? OKAY, MR. TAPIA, WHO, WHO WE VOTING ON FIRST? UH, WE VOTE FOR MR. BROWN. 
          UM, WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, YOU CAN PLEASE STATE WHO WOULD YOU LIKE TO NOMINATE? EITHER MS. BROWN OR MS. GUILLORY. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          SO I HAVE MR. ZUNIGA DOWN FOR MS. GUILLORY. 
          MR. TAPIA. 
          MS. GUILLORY, MR. HARPER, I, I WOULD GIVE MS. GALLERY A CHANCE. 
          MS. BROWN. 
          UM, I, YEAH, I CAN GIVE HER AN OPPORTUNITY. 
          I DON'T MIND THAT MR. ANDES, I'LL, I'LL MAKE IT UNANIMOUS. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND MS. GUI, MYSELF. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IT IS UNANIMOUS SIX TO ZERO FOR MS. GUILLORY AS CHAIR OF THE B S B. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          CONGRATULATIONS. 
          UH, LENCIA, I, CONGRATULATIONS. 
          AND WE HAVE THE VICE CHAIR POSITION AVAILABLE. 
          MS. BROWN, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE MS. BROWN FOR VICE CHAIR. 
          WELL, THANK YOU. 
          I WOULD SECOND THAT AND THANK YOU. 
          AND LENCIA, I'LL BE HERE IF YOU NEED HELP WITH ANYTHING. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BUT WE NEED A, UM, WE NEED A VOTE. 
          . 
          AND JUST TO CONFIRM, WERE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR? THANK YOU MR. ZUNIGA. 
          AYE. 
          MR. TAPIA? AYE. 
          MR. HARPER? AYE. 
          MS. BROWN? 
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AYE. 
          MR. ANDES? AYE. 
          MS. GUILLORY? AYE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MOTION PASSES WITH THE VOTE OF SIX TO ZERO FOR MS. BROWN AS A VICE CHAIR OF THE B S B. 
          THANK YOU MS. CHAIRS. 
          THIS IS LEGAL. 
          I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THE GENTLEMAN ON THE BOARD ARE SMART TO LET THE WOMEN RUN THE I I I HAVE IN MY OFFICE AND IT WORKS BRILLIANTLY. 
          I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THAT TOO. 
          , I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S THE FACT OF THE GENDER, SIR. 
          I THINK IT'S THE FACT OF QUALITY AND WE BELIEVE THAT EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD SHOULD AT LEAST HOLD A POSITION, EITHER VICE CHAIR OR CHAIR AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER. 
          TOUCHE. 
          TOUCHE. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE TIME WOMEN'S JUDGMENT IS A LITTLE BIT ABOVE AVERAGE. 
          , I'LL JUST PUT IT THAT WAY. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          THANK Y'ALL. 
          AND THE NEXT, UM, OH, THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR'S REPORT. 
          GOOD MORNING CHAIR. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          BOARD MEMBERS. 
          UM, I ALWAYS COME HERE WHEN I HAVE BAD NEWS, RIGHT? , SO THINK VERY OFTEN. 
          I JUST WANNA , I JUST WANNA RUN THROUGH THE RESULTS OF OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT PERFORMANCE METRICS FOR LAST YEAR. 
          BEFORE I GO THROUGH THAT, I JUST WANNA EXPLAIN FEW THINGS. 
          SO, AS YOU KNOW, DUE TO THE PANDEMIC, WE HAD TO PULL ABOUT 30 TO 40% OF OUR TEAM TO RESPOND TO EMERGENCY DECLARATION ENFORCEMENT. 
          AND THEY WERE PULLED FOR ALMOST A YEAR FROM, UH, MARCH, 2020 TO TECHNICALLY END OF MARCH, 2021. 
          SO HALF OF THIS YEAR, HALF OF OUR F Y 2021, WE DIDN'T HAVE THOSE TEAM MEMBERS WORKING ON REGULAR CODE ENFORCEMENT ITEMS. AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE HAD ABOUT 10% VACANCIES. 
          AND, UH, DUE TO, AGAIN, TO THE PANDEMIC, UH, ALL THE POSITIONS WERE ON HOLD, UH, OR FROZEN, I GUESS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          NOT JUST CODE ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW MUCH THIS GONNA AFFECT US, UH, AS FAR AS, UH, FINANCIAL ASPECTS. 
          SO ALL THE POSITIONS WERE FROZEN. 
          SO AGAIN, THAT'S 10%, THAT'S ABOUT 10 CODE OFFICERS AS WELL. 
          SO WE WERE OPERATING AROUND BETWEEN 50 TO 60% BASICALLY. 
          SO WITH THAT SAID, UM, OUR GOAL TO, UH, RESPOND, OUR RESPONSE RATE BASICALLY FOR TIER ONE, NORMALLY THE GOAL IS TWO BUSINESS DAYS. 
          WE WERE AT 7.6 BUSINESS DAYS. 
          SO IT TAKES US A FULL WEEK TO GO RESPOND TO THOSE CALLS. 
          TIER TWO, OUR GOAL WAS THREE BUSINESS DAYS. 
          UH, WE WERE AT EIGHT, SO AGAIN, MORE THAN A WEEK, TECHNICALLY TIER ONE AND TWO, UH, PROACTIVE RATE, OUR GOAL IS 65%. 
          WE WERE AT 35%. 
          WE HAD TO TELL THE TEAM NOT TO DO A LOT OF PROACTIVE. 
          WE ARE TRYING TO CATCH UP AND JUST DO THE REACTIVE CALLS AS MUCH, AS MUCH AS WE CAN. 
          SO, UH, THAT'S WHY IT'S LOW. 
          OUR COMPLIANCE RATE FOR TIER ONE AND TWO, THE GOAL IS TO COMPLY WITH 80% IN 45 DAYS. 
          WE WERE AT 74%. 
          SO WE WERE NOT TOO BAD THERE. 
          THE GRAFFITI ABATEMENT GOAL IS 50,000 SITES. 
          WE DID 42,000 PLUS. 
          THE TURNAROUND TIME FOR THAT WAS THREE DAYS. 
          UH, THAT'S THE GOAL. 
          BUT WE WERE ACTUALLY DOING THAT IN ONE DAY. 
          SO WE, WE DID GOOD ON THE GRAFFITI SIDE. 
          SO WITH THAT SAID, I, I KNOW I DON'T HAVE IT LISTED THERE, BUT, UM, I JUST WANNA GIVE YOU OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR BECAUSE, UM, A FEW MONTHS AGO WE DID OPEN THOSE POSITIONS AND WE HIRED 10 CODE OFFICERS. 
          BASICALLY, UH, FIVE OF THEM FINISHED TRAINING AND NOW THEY'RE IN THE FIELD. 
          OTHER FIVE ARE IN TRAINING RIGHT NOW. 
          SO THEY SHOULD BE DONE SOON. 
          UH, WE, WE ARE DOWN TO TECHNICALLY THREE VACANCIES. 
          WE HAVE THAT POSTED. 
          HOPEFULLY WE HIRE THOSE FOLKS, UH, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND GET THEM THROUGH THE TRAINING. 
          SO WE, WE ARE GETTING BACK IN TRACK. 
          SO JUST FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER THIS LAST MONTH. 
          UH, SO TECHNICALLY TIER ONE RESPONSE TIME NOW WE ARE AT TWO DAYS. 
          SO WE ARE WITHIN THE GOAL TIER TWO AGAIN, UH, IT'S, THE GOAL IS THREE DAYS. 
          WE ARE AT TWO DAYS AS WELL RIGHT NOW IN OCTOBER. 
          SO I GUESS WE ARE KIND OF BACK TO NORMAL, UH, IN OCTOBER. 
          THE PROACTIVENESS, AS I SAID, THE GOAL IS 65%. 
          WE ARE NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT THERE. 
          WE ARE AT 52% IN OCTOBER. 
          SO AGAIN, WE ARE MOVING UP TO THAT. 
          THE COMPLIANCE RATE IS AT ABOUT 60% IN OCTOBER. 
          AGAIN, ONE OF THOSE REASONS IS WE HAVE SOME OLD CASES THAT WE ARE TRYING TO, TO FINALIZE AND CLOSE. 
          SO THAT WILL AFFECT OUR COMPLIANCE RATE. 
          THE WAY WE LOOK AT IT IS EITHER THE CASE, UH, WAS CLOSED AND COMPLETED WITHIN 45 DAYS OR NOT. 
          SO WE, WE RATE THOSE YES OR NO. 
          AND THEN WE TAKE 
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THE AVERAGE. 
          SO THE MINUTE YOU HAVE OLDER CASES, THEN YOU'RE GONNA GET A LOT OF NOS THAT WE ARE NOT MEETING THE 45 DAYS. 
          AND THAT'S WHY AGAIN, BUT STILL OUR RATE IS AT 60%, UH, IN OCTOBER. 
          SO AGAIN, WE ARE GETTING BACK TO NORMAL THIS YEAR. 
          I DON'T SEE A REASON WHY WE CANNOT MEET OUR GOAL OR EVEN BETTER. 
          SO, UH, THE TEAM IS DOING WELL. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          I ALWAYS THINK THAT CODE DOES A A, A GOOD JOB. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY DO THE, THE ABSOLUTE BEST THAT THEY CAN UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND WITHOUT EXCEPTION TO, TO CODE, I MEAN TO, UH, COVID. 
          COVID. 
          SO I THINK YOU ALL STILL DID A GREAT JOB, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THE NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE LOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN YOU DO WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING AROUND COUGHING . 
          CORRECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE THAT. 
          YEAH, I'VE GOT A QUESTION ON THE PROJECTED TIME OF THE SEVEN BECAUSE I MIGHT, I DON'T HAVE THAT CHART ON HERE. 
          ON THE PROJECTED TIMES AT 7.6 WINNER, YOU GUYS LOOKING THAT TO GO BACK TO NORMAL? THAT'S WHAT I SAID IN OCTOBER, THIS LAST MONTH. 
          WE ARE AT TWO DAYS RIGHT NOW. 
          SO IT'S GONNA STAY AT THE TWO DAY MARK WITH THE CURRENT STAFF YOU HAVE. 
          YES. 
          AS I SAID, GONNA BE HOPEFULLY TWO DAYS OR LESS. 
          WE, WE, WE, WE ARE MEETING THE GOAL OR WE MET THE GOAL THIS LAST MONTH. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA START SEEING THE TREND WHERE EVERYTHING IS NOW GOING BACK TO WHERE IT WAS PRE PANDEMIC. 
          YES, CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND WE CAN WE, AND WE CAN MAINTAIN BEING LEGAL, ETHICAL SAFETY. 
          I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY BEEN AN ENHANCEMENT IN YOUR, IN YOUR TRAINING. 
          UM, AND I WOULD ENC ENCOURAGE KEEPING UP WITH THE TRENDS AND THE CODES AND THE SAFETY ISSUES. 
          'CAUSE THIS IS ALL CRITICAL. 
          I'VE ALWAYS BEEN IN FAVOR OF SAFETY, SAFETY. 
          THESE ARE DISEASES WAITING TO HAPPEN THAT WE'VE GOT TO STOP AND EDUCATE THE PUBLIC. 
          YOUR OFFICERS HAVE A BURDEN TO EDUCATE. 
          THEY'RE GETTING BLAMED ALREADY. 
          SO WE'RE GETTING, YOU KNOW, AND IT JUST, IT'S A CONSTANT UPDATING AND CREATING AND FOLLOWING THROUGH AND, AND THAT'S ALL. 
          NO, ABSOLUTELY. 
          YOU, YOU ARE CORRECT. 
          AND AGAIN, UM, YES, WE GONNA MAINTAIN THOSE GOALS AND UH, WE ALWAYS TRY TO EDUCATE, UH, CITIZENS, UH, AS MUCH AS WE CAN. 
          UM, UNLESS WE, GOD FORBID, GET ANOTHER PANDEMIC AND WELL THAT'S, I LOSE SOME OF MY STAFF THEN , I CAN'T MEET THE GOAL. 
          RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          WHEN I, WHEN I LOSE MY STAFF, THEN THAT'S THE PROBLEM. 
          BUT AS LONG AS I HAVE MY TEAM, THEN DEFINITELY WE WILL MEET THE GOALS AND BETTER. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , I MEAN. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OH, NO, I DIDN'T HAVE A QUESTION. 
          I JUST HAD ONE. 
          IT WAS JUST MORE SO KUDOS TO YOUR STAFF BECAUSE I HAVE WORKED WITH SOME OF THEM AND IF I HAD ANY CALLS IN, THEY'RE QUICK TO FOLLOW BACK UP. 
          SO JUST, YOU HAVE A GREAT STAFF. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I THINK THEY KNEW YOU'RE GONNA BE THE CHAIR, SO . 
          ALRIGHT THEN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU'ALL FOR DOING A GREAT JOB. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO I GUESS, UH, THE NEXT TOPIC IS, UH, STAFF UPDATES. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT, SO I'M JUST GONNA TALK ABOUT COUPLE OF ITEMS ON MY END AND THEN MY TEAM HAVE, UH, SOME OTHER UPDATES. 
          UM, JUST F Y I IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW. 
          UM, WE ARE, UH, WE STARTED WORKING ON THE U D C UNIFIED, UH, DEVELOPMENT CODE. 
          NORMALLY THE PROCESS IS WE UPDATE THAT CODE ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS. 
          AND IT WAS DUE LAST YEAR IN 2020. 
          BUT DUE TO AGAIN, THE PANDEMIC AND WE DIDN'T HAVE IN-PERSON MEETINGS, UM, IT WAS PUT ON HOLD. 
          WE JUST STARTED THAT PROCESS OCTOBER ONE THIS YEAR. 
          UM, NORMALLY THE PROCESS TAKES ABOUT A YEAR. 
          SO OUR GOAL IS WE STARTED OCTOBER ONE. 
          NOW POTENTIALLY WE WILL HAVE IT, UH, HOPEFULLY APPROVED AND DONE BY COUNCIL BY NEXT OCTOBER, OCTOBER, 2022. 
          AND AT THAT POINT, IT'LL GO IN EFFECT. 
          SO BASICALLY, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU WANNA CHANGE A CODE SECTION, YOU WANNA ADD SOMETHING TO IT, YOU WANNA DELETE SOMETHING FROM IT, YOU DON'T LIKE IT, YOU WANNA MODIFY IT, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          NOT JUST YOU AS A, AS A BOARD MEMBERS, BUT AS A CITIZEN, UH, YOU ARE WELCOME TO PROVIDE THE FEEDBACK TO OUR TEAM. 
          UH, BUT KEEP IN MIND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT DATE. 
          THERE IS A DEADLINE TO APPLY ANY CHANGES THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE TO THE CODE. 
          THE DEADLINE IS FEBRUARY 1ST, 2022. 
          SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, UH, OUR TEAM WILL RECEIVE ALL THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE WILL, UH, GO THROUGH THEM, ORGANIZE THEM, MAKE SURE THEY FALL WHERE THEY NEED TO FALL. 
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UH, SOMETIMES YOU WANT TO CHANGE, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT SECTION IN CHAPTER 35. 
          SO WE WILL HELP YOU PUT THAT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. 
          UH, SO WE'LL GATHER ALL THE INFORMATION AND THEN WE'RE GONNA START HAVING PUBLIC MEETINGS AND, UH, MEETINGS WITH THE, UH, THE PTAC, WHICH IS, UH, THE, UM, MAN, I'M ZONING OUT, UM, THE PLANNING, CAN'T THINK OF IT. 
          PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          UH, SO THEN WE WILL GO TO THEM WITH ALL THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE'LL START DISCUSSING THOSE. 
          UH, AND THEN THEY WILL MAKE THE FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE GONNA TAKE TO CITY COUNCIL AT THAT TIME. 
          AND THEN, UH, WE GO TO CITY COUNCIL AGAIN, PRESENT ALL THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          AND IF THEY APPROVE IT, THEN IT'LL GO IN EFFECT. 
          UH, NORMALLY THEY GIVE VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, MAYBE 30 DAYS OR SO TO GO INTO EFFECT. 
          SO WE, WE BELIEVE, UH, IT'LL BE ACTIVE POTENTIALLY SOMEWHERE IN NOVEMBER NEXT YEAR. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE U D C AND THE PROCESS? SO IS THERE A FORM OR, OR SOMETHING, UH, THAT I CAN FILL OUT WITH, UH, WITH AN ADDITION OR A CLARIFICATION ON THE VERBIAGE? Y YES. 
          UH, IF YOU GO TO OUR WEBSITE AND WE HAVE IT PULLED RIGHT NOW, HMM. 
          THERE IS A LINK THERE WHERE YOU CAN CLICK ON IT. 
          IT'S GONNA GIVE YOU THAT FORM AND YOU CAN FILL IT. 
          NOW AGAIN, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN IN CODES, UH, A LOT AND YOU NEED ANY ASSISTANT, AGAIN, THERE IS, UH, CONTACT ON ON ONLINE AS WELL. 
          YOU CAN REACH OUT TO OUR TEAM MEMBER AND THEY WILL WALK YOU THROUGH IT. 
          THEY WILL HELP YOU FILL THE FORM. 
          UH, THAT'S ONE WAY TO DO IT. 
          THE OTHER WAY IS JUST TELL US WHAT YOU NEED. 
          WE WILL HELP YOU FILL THE FORM OR WE WILL FILL IT FOR YOU AND THEN SHOW YOU THE FORM AND SAY, THIS IS REALLY WHAT YOU TOLD US. 
          WE WILL CONFIRM THAT BEFORE WE OFFICIALLY SUBMIT THAT. 
          I'VE OFTEN WONDERED THAT, UM, IN THE PAST, 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, ARCHITECTURALLY, UH, VERSUS WHAT, UH, AN ENGINEER'S OPINION AND ADDING MORE VERBIAGE THAT INCLUDES THE ARCHITECTURAL, UH, PHASE OF WHATEVER. 
          UM, IF I BROUGHT, UH, A QUESTION, UH, ABOUT A PARTICULAR CODE OR A POLICY, CAN I INTRODUCE IT IN, IN THE, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE PHASE OF OUR MEETINGS? OR IS THAT KOSHER? WOULD THAT, WOULD YOU RATHER JUST ME GO STRAIGHT TO THE WEBSITE? IS THAT EASIER? I MEAN, IF, IF THAT RECOMMENDATION IS COMING FROM YOU PERSONALLY YES. 
          THAN GO DIRECTLY TO THE U D C TEAM. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE LINK IT SAYS POLICY ADMINISTRATOR TEAM, IF YOU CLICK ON THAT, THAT WILL GET YOU IN CONTACT WITH THAT TEAM MEMBER OR TEAM MEMBERS BASICALLY THAT WE HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, IF YOU WANNA BRING IT AS FAR AS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE BOARD HERE, YOU CAN DEFINITELY PRESENT THAT. 
          AND IF THE BOARD IS ON, ON, ON BOARD WITH THAT, THEN WE WILL TAKE IT AS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE B S B TO THE U D C POLICY ADMINISTRATOR. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL. 
          SO IT DEPENDS ON WHAT RECOMMENDATION YOU HAVE. 
          AND IS THAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION ONLY OR IS IT THE BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION? MM-HMM. 
          . 
          WELL, IT'S A, IT'S A STANDARDS RECOMMENDATION THAT I'VE SEEN AND, AND PEOPLE LOOK AT. 
          UM, THAT'S ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          I MEAN, I CAN EXPLAIN ALL OF IT. 
          SURE. 
          WHEN, WHEN THE TIME COMES. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          I WAS ON A CALL, UM, I DON'T KNOW, TWO NIGHTS AGO MAYBE WITH COREY FROM O H P AND HE WAS, UH, READING THE SLIDES AND, AND GOING OVER, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. 
          WE HAD SEVERAL QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE. 
          I COULDN'T STAY THE WHOLE TIME, BUT AT LEAST I WAS ON IT TO SEE WHAT WAS IN THE NEW U D C CODE. 
          THE ONLY PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE U D C IS THERE ARE TOO MANY REALTORS AND TOO MANY DEVELOPERS ON THE BOARD. 
          NOW. 
          I KNOW THEY, THEY MINGLE IN, YOU KNOW, UH, PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE ON IT, BUT TO ME IT'S TOO MANY BECAUSE THEY HAVE A TENDENCY TO OVERPOWER EVERYBODY ELSE BECAUSE THERE'S MONEY AND POLITICS INVOLVED. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S PRETTY POLITICAL. 
          I MEAN THAT, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE, UH, THE, THE PTAC, THE PLANNING COMMISSION TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          AND IT CONSISTS OF DIFFERENT TYPE OF PEOPLE, DIFFERENT EXPERTISE. 
          UM, SO IT'S NOT JUST DEVELOPERS OR JUST REALTORS. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, THAT'S THE COMMITTEE THAT'S REALLY GONNA REVIEW ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          AND AS I SAID EARLIER, ANYBODY CAN SUBMIT A RECOMMENDATION, EVEN A CITIZEN. 
          SO, UM, WE WILL GATHER ALL THAT GO TO THAT COMMITTEE. 
          THEY'RE THE TECHNICAL COMMITTEE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE U D C IS SOMEWHAT TECHNICAL. 
          UM, SO THEY HAVE TO REVIEW IT AND EITHER, UH, APPROVE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE FORWARD OR NOT. 
          AND ALL THE MEETINGS ARE 
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OPEN, MEETINGS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. 
          YOU CAN ATTEND ANY OF THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          WHEN IS OUR NEXT SCHEDULE FOR THE UH, P M C ONES? WE HAD TWO, I GOT A 2018, ISN'T IT? EVERY TWO YEARS? EVERY THREE YEARS. 
          THREE THAT, THAT'S MY NEXT TOPIC. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          AFTER, AFTER U D C. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          WITH THE U D C. 
          ANY, ANY QUESTIONS? AND AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS LATER ON, UH, DON'T HESITATE. 
          REACH OUT TO ME. 
          I'LL CONNECT YOU WITH THE RIGHT PERSON IF YOU NEED ANYTHING AND I CAN HELP YOU WITH THAT AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT THEN, UH, MOVING ON TO THE I C C CODES. 
          UM, SO KIND OF THE SAME CONCEPT LIKE U D C, BUT THE DIFFERENCE HERE IS THE I C C. 
          UH, THEY, UH, PUBLISH NEW CODES EVERY THREE YEARS. 
          AND WE, AS THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, WE ARE NORMALLY PROUD THAT WE DO ADOPT THE CODES ALMOST AS THEY COME. 
          UH, WE ARE NORMALLY ONE OF THE FIRST CITIES THAT ADOPT CODE, NOT JUST IN TEXAS BUT NATIONWIDE. 
          SAME EXACT ISSUE NOW IS, UM, IT HIT, BASICALLY IT'S THE 2021 CODE. 
          'CAUSE WE ARE UNDER 2018. 
          UH, SO THREE YEARS LATER OBVIOUSLY THEY PUBLISH THE 2021 CODES. 
          NORMALLY WHEN THEY PUBLISH THEM, THEY HAVE THEM READY MIDYEAR THE PRIOR YEAR. 
          SO LIKE IN SUMMER 2020, THEY HAD THE BOOKS OUT. 
          WE ORDERED SOME OF THOSE BOOKS, WE RECEIVED THEM. 
          BUT AGAIN, IT'S VERY HARD TO MEET AND TALK ABOUT CODES AND READ LINE BY LINE AND GO THROUGH SECTION AND HAVE DISCUSSION. 
          IF YOU ARE NOT IN PERSON, LIKE IF YOU'RE DOING WEBEX, IT'S REALLY HARD TO CONTROL THAT AND REALLY TO ENGAGE. 
          SO AGAIN, THAT WAS THE REASON WHY WE PUT IT ON HOLD AS WELL, UNTIL WE OPEN UP FOR, UH, IN-PERSON MEETINGS. 
          SO THE PLAN IS WE'RE GONNA START THAT PROCESS, UH, JANUARY THIS COMING YEAR, JANUARY, 2022. 
          SO WE HAVE THE BOOKS INTERNALLY. 
          WE DID GO THROUGH THEM AND WE UH, FOUND SOME CHANGES OBVIOUSLY, AND WE DISCUSSED THEM. 
          BUT WE'RE GONNA START IN JANUARY GOING ON, ON ALL THESE CODES. 
          WE HAVE LIKE 10 OR 11 CODES. 
          ONE OF THEM IS THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE. 
          AND WE'RE GONNA START THAT REVIEW, UH, IN JANUARY. 
          I DUNNO EXACTLY WHEN WE'RE GONNA DO THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE SPECIFICALLY. 
          'CAUSE WE CAN DO THEM ALL AT THE SAME TIME. 
          WE TRY TO DO THEM LIKE ONE AFTER THE OTHER. 
          UH, NORMALLY WE START WITH THE BUILDING CODE BECAUSE THAT'S THE MAIN ONE THAT EVERYTHING ELSE TIES INTO. 
          SO WE DO THE BUILDING CODE, WE DO THE EXISTING BUILDING CODE AND THE FIRE CODE. 
          NORMALLY THOSE ARE THE FIRST ONES. 
          THEN AFTER THAT WE MOVE ON TO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE OR MECHANICAL PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL ENERGY AND ALL THAT KIND OF, UH, STUFF. 
          SO, SO I DUNNO EXACTLY THE DATE, BUT AFTER JANUARY, UH, FIRST AT SOME TIME, UH, WE WILL DEFINITELY INFORM YOU AHEAD OF TIME. 
          WE'LL GIVE YOU PLENTY OF TIME TO KNOW THAT WE GONNA START ON THIS DATE. 
          THAT, THAT WAS MY NEXT ONE WAS BECAUSE WE HAD WHAT, FOUR, THREE MEMBERS I KNOW OF LAST TIME THAT, THAT SAT ON THAT BOARD. 
          THERE WERE THREE OF US. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK YOU. 
          THE NEXT ONE IS, ARE WE GONNA STILL LOOK FOR A BOARD PARTICIPATION? ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND IS THERE A LIMIT? THERE IS NO LIMIT AS FAR AS I KNOW. 
          OKAY. 
          NO, AGAIN, WE HAVE KIND OF LIKE, UM, WE HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT TASK FORCE. 
          THAT'S NORMALLY WHAT WE USE TO GO THROUGH THE B UH, THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE. 
          OBVIOUSLY ANY OF YOU ARE WELCOME TO ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS WHEN WE START THEM. 
          AND AT THE END WHEN WE FINISH AND WE GET SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TOGETHER, WE'RE GONNA COME TO YOU AND PRESENT THOSE CHANGES AND ASK FOR YOUR PERMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT TO CITY COUNCIL. 
          SO YOU ARE THE BOARD THAT GONNA TELL US YES OR NO OR IF WE NEED TO MODIFY ANYTHING AT THE END. 
          BUT I THINK SO YOUR INVOLVEMENT EARLY ON IS VERY IMPORTANT AND DEFINITELY WILL HELP US. 
          AND I THINK SO. 
          'CAUSE I THINK LAST TIME WE DID THAT, IT WORKED OUT GREAT BECAUSE WE HAD THREE MEMBERS THAT I CAN REMEMBER. 
          I THINK THERE WERE FOUR, BUT THREE OF US ATTENDED EVERY TIME. 
          YES. 
          AND TO ME IT WAS A LOT EASIER BECAUSE EVERYBODY ON THE PLAYING FIELD WITHOUT BEING BLINDSIDED BY SOMETHING AND THERE WERE OTHER, THE MEMBERS OF THE OTHER BOARDS WERE IN THERE AS WELL. 
          SO IT WAS ALL A YES CONGREGATED THING. 
          AND FOR THE BOARD, IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO DO IT, I WOULD SAY GET ON IT BECAUSE YOU ACTUALLY SEE SOME OF THE STUFF YOU IMPLICATED THAT COMES BACK THAT YOU CAN SEE ACROSS THE BOARD, NOT JUST INTO THE BOARDROOM. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO BE THE FIRST TO SAY I'D LIKE TO BE ON THAT COMMITTEE WHEN WE DO THAT. 
          THANK YOU FOR VOLUNTEERING. 
          WE WILL MAKE SURE YOU ARE ON IT. 
          DEFINITELY. 
          AND AGAIN, WE WILL LET ALL OF YOU KNOW WHEN WE WANNA START AND THE DATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT AHEAD OF TIME. 
          SO IF YOU, IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE AND YOU'RE WILLING TO ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS, PLEASE DO. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND THE MEETINGS? THEY'RE VERY, VERY INFORMATIVE AND YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO CHANGE THINGS. 
          SO IF YOU WANT TO, UM, PLEASE LET AMAN KNOW OR MYSELF OR LENCIA SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, TELL HIM. 
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ALRIGHT, THAT'S ALL WHAT I HAVE. 
          UM, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE CODES AT THIS POINT? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, SO OUR NEXT, UM, IS, UH, B S B CASES BY, UM, CODE DEPARTMENT, A CO-DEVELOPMENT. 
          AM I READING THIS CORRECTLY OR IS IT EMERGENCY? YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS IS NOT HELPING ME HERE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF I'M SITTING AT THE RIGHT POSITION TO BRING UP EVERYTHING. 
          I KNOW THE AGENDA'S DIFFERENT. 
          WELL, I GOT THE AGENDA. 
          OKAY. 
          DART. 
          DART THE ASSESSMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          DART OVERVIEW. 
          WE'RE STILL UNDER STAFF UPDATE. 
          RIGHT. 
          STAFF UPDATES. 
          THE STAFF UPDATE WAS SHOWING DART OVERVIEW. 
          THE SLIDES WEREN'T EVEN, I DIDN'T HAVE IN MIND. 
          NO. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          ALL THAT EARRING. 
          'CAUSE I'LL WANT THE OTHER ONE IF I FIND IT. 
           KEEPS FALLING OUT. 
          UH, FOR THE RECORD, I'M RAI ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY AND I'M HERE TO PROVIDE Y'ALL, UH, FOR SOME OF YOU A REFRESHER COURSE ON DART THE DANGEROUS ASSESSMENT RESPONSE TEAM. 
          AND, UH, ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS THAT HAVE ARISEN WITH THE CASES THAT ARE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF DART. 
          IT'S A MULTI-AGENCY TASK FORCE, OR ACTUALLY MULTI-DEPARTMENTAL TASK FORCE. 
          UH, DART WAS CREATED IN, UH, SEPTEMBER OF 2007 TO ADDRESS THE WORST OF THE WORST NUISANCE PROPERTIES IN A COMPREHENSIVE AGGRESSIVE MANNER. 
          UH, PRIOR TO DART, UH, WE HAD PROPERTIES, UH, PROBLEM PROPERTIES WHERE, UH, EACH DEPARTMENT WAS ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS, BUT THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENTS. 
          AND SO NO FINAL RESOLUTIONS WERE BEING REACHED. 
          AND SO THAT'S THE GOAL OF THIS UNIT. 
          WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH, ALL THE MEMBERS OF DART GO TO A LOCATION, UH, THE SAME TIME AND ADDRESS, UH, EVERY SINGLE VIOLATION PRESENT AT THE LOCATION AND REACH A DETERMINATION AS TO THE NEXT STEP TO ABATE THE PROBLEM. 
          SO THE, UH, THE GOAL IS RECLAIM, RESTORE, REVITALIZE THE PURPOSE OF THE SECOND PURPOSE OF HAVING THE ENTIRE DART TEAM. 
          SO GENERALLY, WHEN WE HIT A LOCATION, THERE WILL BE ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 20 PEOPLE PRESENT AT THE INSPECTION, QUITE A FEW, UH, POLICE OFFICERS, AND THEN THE MEMBERS. 
          UH, ONE IS TO SEND A CLEAR MESSAGE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE ARE RESPONDING TO THAT LOCATION, A CLEAR MESSAGE TO THAT TARGET PROPERTY THAT, UH, WE'RE THERE, WE'RE GOING TO DISRUPT THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OR THE CODE ACTIVITY, OR THE ANIMAL ABUSES THAT ARE OCCURRING AT THE LOCATION TO RECLAIM THE NEIGHBORHOOD BACK FOR THE CITIZENS. 
          RESTORE IS OUR SECONDARY STEP, AND IT'S TO ADDRESS EVERY SINGLE VIOLATION OCCURRING AT THE PROPERTY. 
          UH, WE FOLLOW WHAT MANY OF YOU HAVE ALREADY HEARD BECAUSE AS PART OF, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT IS THE BROKEN WINDOWS THEORY. 
          AND THAT THEORY, UH, WAS DEVELOPED WITH THE CRACK EXPLOSION AT THE, UH, UM, END OF THE EIGHTIES. 
          AND THAT IS, OKAY, WE HAVE ONE HOUSE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          IT HAS ONE BROKEN WINDOW. 
          WHY SHOULD CODE ENFORCEMENT GO OUT THERE? WHY SHOULD THE POLICE BE CONCERNED? IT'S JUST ONE BROKEN WINDOW, BUT YOU HAVE A PROPERTY THAT HAS ONE BROKEN WINDOW, IT LEADS TO A SECOND, THEN IT LEADS TO AN UNSECURED DOOR. 
          WHAT THAT LEADS TO IS THE IMPRESSION THAT NO ONE IS CONTROL IN CONTROL OF THAT PROPERTY. 
          AND IT ALLOWS A CRIMINAL ELEMENT TO COME IN AND TAKE CONTROL. 
          THE PROPERTIES THAT DART INVESTIGATES GETS TO A POINT WHERE THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT HAS MOVED IN, OR THE SQUATTERS OR, UH, VAGRANTS HAVE MOVED IN. 
          AND NOT ONLY DO THEY 
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TAKE CONTROL OF THAT PROPERTY, THEY END UP TAKING CONTROL OF THAT STREET AND THE STREET NEXT TO IT, THE ENTRY POINTS LEADING INTO THE STREET. 
          AND SO WE WANNA RESTORE IT BACK TO WHAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A RIGHT TO HAVE. 
          AND THEN REVITALIZE, UH, COMPOSITION OF DART, UH, DANGEROUS PREMISES OFFICERS. 
          UH, THE ONE Y Y'ALL HEAR PRIMARILY FROM, UH, RORA IS THE DANGEROUS PREMISES OFFICER, UH, ON THE UNIT CODE COMPLIANCE INSPECTORS ARE ALSO MEMBERS OF THE UNIT. 
          THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ON, UH, DART. 
          WE GO THROUGH THE SAFE OFFICERS FOR EACH AREA. 
          THE REASON I HAD DECIDED TO GO WITH SAFE OFFICERS IN CREATING THIS PROGRAM IS THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE THE MOST FAMILIAR WITH A TARGET PROPERTY. 
          THEY'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORS. 
          THEY'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS, UH, WITH THE CRIMINALS OR THE VIOLATORS. 
          AND, UH, VICE IS ALSO, UH, MEMBER OF THE UNIT AND THEY COME ALONG TO ADDRESS, UH, THE MOTELS, HOTELS, RESTAURANTS, AND SPECIFICALLY BARS. 
          UH, NHS D SLASH DHS, I NEVER KNOW WHAT TERM TO USE. 
          THEY ARE A MEMBER OF DART AND THEY ARE ON EVERY SINGLE DART. 
          SO THAT THE PURPOSE OF THEM BEING ON THE UNIT, WE GET TO A LOCATION AND THEY ARE THERE TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THE OCCUPANTS, TO PROVIDE ANY NECESSARY SERVICES TO PROVIDE RELOCATION ASSISTANCE IF IT'S WARRANTED, TO, UH, BRING ALONG ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES, UH, TO CALL IN CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ANY ASSISTANCE TO THE NON-CRIMINAL ELEMENT AT THE PROPERTY. 
          A REASON WHY THAT'S SO BIG. 
          WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, WE CAME ACROSS A LOT OF GANG HOUSES AND CRACK HOUSES WHERE THE GRANDKIDS TOOK OVER THE HOUSE. 
          AND IT WOULD BE THE ELDERLY OWNER WHO OFTENTIMES WAS BEING DENIED SERVICES. 
          ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES, UH, WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO, UH, IN, IN ONE PARTICULAR OCCASION, THEY REFUSED TO ALLOW THEM ACCESS TO THE GRANDMOTHER. 
          THE GRANDMOTHER HAD NO CONTROL. 
          SHE, UH, WAS SCARED OF HER GRANDCHILDREN. 
          UH, THERE WAS SOME ABUSE GOING ON. 
          AND SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE HIT A PROPERTY, WE ADDRESS ALL THE ISSUES AT THE LOCATION. 
          AND IN THAT PARTICULAR, UH, INSTANCE, WE WERE ABLE TO CONNECT HER WITH THE GOOD SIDE OF THE FAMILY. 
          UM, MOVED HER IN WITH, UH, THE, A GOOD DAUGHTER. 
          AND, UH, SHE ACTUALLY, UH, CAME TO COURT AND, UH, THANKED THE CITY FOR COMING IN BECAUSE THE, UH, GRANDCHILDREN WERE REFUSING ALL SERVICES. 
          SHE WASN'T BEING FED, SHE WASN'T BEING GIVEN MEDICAL ATTENTION. 
          SO THAT'S WHY N H S D AND D H SS IS SO IMPORTANT. 
          ANIMAL CARE SERVICES, I AM A HUGE ANIMAL LOVER. 
          IF THERE ARE ANY CLAIMS OF A DOG BEING ABUSED, OH BOY, , WE'RE HITTING THAT HOUSE. 
          ANIMAL CARE SERVICES IS REALLY KEY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE'RE COMING ACROSS MORE AND MORE HOARDING SITUATIONS INVOLVING ANIMALS. 
          UH, DART JUST DID A PROPERTY WHERE 80 DOGS AND CATS WERE REMOVED FROM A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. 
          AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ADDRESS THAT ASPECT AS WELL. 
          HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THE HEALTH INSPECTORS ARE THERE PRIMARILY FOR WHEN WE HIT CONVENIENCE STORES, UM, MOTELS, HOTELS, RESTAURANTS. 
          BUT WE'VE BEEN BRINGING THEM ALONG ON THE HOARDING SITUATIONS BECAUSE CLEARLY THAT'S A HEALTH THREAT TO THE RESIDENTS LIVING IN, IN THERE. 
          UH, JUMPING BACK REAL QUICK TO NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING AND SERVICES AND SS A P D. 
          SS A P D HAS A MENTAL HEALTH UNIT AND N H S D ALSO BRINGS ALONG, UH, MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELORS. 
          'CAUSE WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS A VERY STRONG CORRELATION BETWEEN HOARDING AND MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , WE WANNA BE ABLE TO ADDRESS IT IN A HOLISTIC MANNER AND 
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NEVER GO BACK TO A SCATTERSHOT APPROACH. 
          UH, T A B C IS ALSO A MEMBER OF DART, UH, CLEARLY FOR THE BARS. 
          AND THEN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE COORDINATES DART. 
          SO THAT'S THE COMPOSITION OF DART. 
          AND, UH, AT ANY GIVEN TIME, LET'S SEE. 
          ERIC DOES ALL FIELD OPERATIONS. 
          SO HE LEADS ALL THE DART INVESTIGATIONS. 
          AND AT ANY GIVEN POINT, THE MEMBERSHIP IN DART IS BETWEEN 25 TO 30. 
          UH, SO THAT'S ABOUT THE SIZE WE'RE AT. 
          OKAY, NEXT ONE. 
          TYPES OF PROPERTIES THAT WE ADDRESS. 
          WE, UH, ANYTHING THAT'S CONSIDERED PROPERTY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS WE WILL ADDRESS. 
          SO, UM, HOUSES FOR SURE, VACANT STRUCTURES, UH, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES INCLUDING CONVENIENCE STORES, APARTMENT COMPLEXES, SALVAGE YARDS. 
          UH, WE HIT A TIRE RECYCLING FACILITY ON APPLEWHITE. 
          AND, UH, THAT WAS, UH, ALL BASED ON CODE AND FIRE. 
          FIRE, UH, WAS EXTREMELY CONCERNED. 
          IF A FIRE STARTED AT THAT LOCATION, IT WOULD BURN FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF. 
          TOOK A WHILE, BUT WE GOT IT ADDRESSED. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO ADDRESSED VACANT LOTS TOO. 
          EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NOT A HOUSE TO ADDRESS, A LOT OF VACANT LOTS ARE USED BY DRUG DEALERS TO ENGAGE IN DRUG TRANSACTIONS OR VACANT LOTS. 
          AND, AND Y'ALL HAVE SEEN THEM ARE, ARE UTILIZED AS DUMPING GROUNDS. 
          AND SO WE'LL ADDRESS THE CONCERNS WITH THE RODENT INFESTATION. 
          UH, HARBRIDGE, UM, HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS BECAME A, A BIG ISSUE WITH VACANT LOTS. 
          SO WE ADDRESS ANYTHING THAT IS CONSIDERED PROPERTY. 
          NOW DART IS PROPERTY SPECIFIC. 
          UH, A DART'S INVESTIGATION CANNOT HAPPEN ON A BLOCK. 
          IT CAN'T HAPPEN OH, AT THE STREET CORNER. 
          IT HAS TO BE RELATED TO A SPECIFIC ADDRESS. 
          OKAY, NEXT ONE. 
          THE UNIQUE ASPECTS OF DART. 
          NOW, UH, WHEN I WAS WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN HOUSTON, I RAN THE UNIT CALLED, IT WAS FAST. 
          THE FAST UNIT. 
          AND, UH, THE FAST UNIT, SIMILAR TO ALL OTHER UNITS ACROSS THE COUNTRY IS GRANT FUNDED. 
          IT'S A FUNDED UNIT WHERE, UH, ALL THE OFFICERS, THE INSPECTORS AND THE ATTORNEY ON THE FAST UNIT, ALL THEY DID WAS FAST. 
          THAT'S THE 24 7 IS WHAT THEY WORKED ON. 
          AND THEY WERE FUNDED BY A GRANT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, AS ARE MOST OF THE UNITS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 
          WHAT I HAD PROBLEMS WITH IN, UH, WHEN WE DID HOUSTON IS WE WOULD GO TO PROPERTIES, BUT IT HAD TO HAVE, UH, CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, NARCOTICS, PROSTITUTION, GANGS, SHOOTINGS. 
          WE ADDRESSED THE CODE VIOLATIONS. 
          BUT IF A PROPERTY SOLELY HAD CODE VIOLATIONS, WE COULDN'T ADDRESS THE PROPERTY BECAUSE IT DIDN'T FIT WITHIN THE GUIDELINES OF THE GRANT. 
          SO THERE WERE A LOT OF PROPERTIES WHERE WE COULDN'T FOLLOW UP ON THE CODE VIOLATIONS, WHICH WAS, UH, REALLY FRUSTRATING. 
          'CAUSE IT GOES BACK TO THAT BROKEN WINDOWS THEORY. 
          OKAY, WE GOT RID OF THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT, BUT WE LEAVE A PLACE FULL OF CODE VIOLATIONS, IT'S GONNA ATTRACT THE SAME ELEMENT RIGHT BACK IN. 
          SO, UH, WHEN DART WAS CREATED, UH, WE ARE NOT GRANT FUNDED. 
          UH, WE ARE NOT LIMITED TO CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. 
          WE CAN ADDRESS HABITUAL CODE VIOLATORS, HABITUAL CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, HABITUAL HOARDERS, HABITUAL NUISANCES, FIRE CODE VIOLATIONS. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          SO, UH, THAT MAKES US A UNIQUE, WE'RE THE, UH, ONLY UNIT LIKE THIS IN THE COUNTRY. 
          WE ARE NOT SELF-FUNDED OR GRANT FUNDED. 
          WE ARE THE ONLY UNIT IN THE COUNTRY THAT IS ALL VOLUNTEER. 
          EVERYBODY ON DART DOES DART ON TOP OF THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED DUTIES, UH, ADDRESS THE LAST ONES. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT LIMITED, WE COULD ADDRESS THE PROPERTY IN A HOLISTIC MANNER. 
          UH, BECAUSE BASED ON THE SEVEN YEARS IN HOUSTON, UH, THERE'S NOTHING MORE FRUSTRATING THAN GOING TO A PROPERTY, DEALING WITH THE 
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CRIMINAL, FILING A LAWSUIT, BUT THEN IT POPS RIGHT BACK UP WITH ALL THE CODE VIOLATIONS OR, OR WHAT HAVE YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          CRITERIA FOR BECOMING A DART. 
          NOW WE FOCUS ON THE WORST OF THE WORST NUISANCE PROPERTIES. 
          THE CRITERIA IS THAT A PROPERTY THAT'S BROUGHT TO DART FOR DISCUSSION AS A POTENTIAL, IT HAS TO HAVE A TWO YEAR DOCUMENTED HISTORY OF HABITUAL CRIMINAL OR CODE VIOLATIONS OR ANIMAL CARE ABUSES, FIRE CODE VIOLATIONS, HEALTH VIOLATIONS, UH, HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS. 
          THE REASON IT HAS TO BE DOCUMENTED, WE DON'T WANNA GET INTO SITUATIONS WHERE NEIGHBORS ARE COMPLAINING ON NEIGHBORS WITH NOTHING TO UH, JUSTIFY THEIR COMPLAINT. 
          UH, WE WILL NOT ADDRESS A PROPERTY THAT IS ALLEGEDLY A CRACK HOUSE BASED ON HEARSAY. 
          UH, I NEED TO LOOK AT THE DOCUMENTS, WHICH ARE THE POLICE CALLS FOR SERVICE FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS. 
          WE ALSO LOOK AT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT HISTORY FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS. 
          THE CODE ENFORCEMENT HISTORY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT FOR DART BECAUSE EVERY DART INVESTIGATION IS CONDUCTED PURSUANT TO A WARRANT CODE ENFORCEMENT HISTORY, HEALTH HISTORY, FIRE HISTORY PROVIDES PROBABLE CAUSE FOR THAT WARRANT. 
          IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE WARRANT. 
          IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN A CRIMINAL WARRANT. 
          SO S A P D DOES NOT GET THE WARRANT, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT DOES. 
          THE ADMINISTRATIVE WARRANTS ARE LIMITED TO GOING IN, INVESTIGATING AND OBTAINING EVIDENCE OF VIOLATIONS. 
          SO, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE DO. 
          SO WE REVIEW THE CALLS. 
          NEXT ONE, CONSIDERATIONS WE LOOK AT WITH EVERY SINGLE DART. 
          UH, WE LOOK AT, UH, ISSUES RELATED TO THE OWNERS. 
          ARE THEY ELDERLY OWNERS? IS THERE A CONCERN ABOUT ELDER ABUSE? DO WE NEED TO HAVE A P S OR C P S WITH US? DO WE NEED THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT WITH US? UH, RELOCATION ISSUES, UH, THAT USED TO BE ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS WE WOULD LOOK AT. 
          BUT NOW WE'VE MOVED TO, UH, D H S N H S D IS WITH US ON EVERY SINGLE DART BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO ASSUME RELOCATION MAY BE NECESSARY. 
          AND RATHER THAN GET THERE, HAVE A LAG TIME WHILE WAITING ON THEM TO COME. 
          IT'S JUST EASIER HAVING EVERYBODY THERE ONCE. 
          UH, DO WE NEED ANIMAL CARE SERVICES? UH, ARE THERE HAZMAT CONCERNS? WE'VE HIT QUITE A FEW MED LABS. 
          SO WE'VE HAD TO HAVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S HAZMAT UNIT ON STANDBY A LEVEL OF DRUG ACTIVITY. 
          UH, WE HAVE HAD SOME PROPERTIES WHERE THE D E A WAS INVOLVED, OR THE US ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WAS INVOLVED, AND SO THEY COME ALONG ON THE DARTS AS NECESSARY. 
          IS IT A HIGH RISK PROPERTY? WE'VE HAD PROPERTIES WHERE WE'VE HAD TO HAVE THE SWAT UNIT COME AND FIRST CLEAR THE PROPERTY BEFORE THE REST OF THE MEMBERS COULD WALK INTO THE HOUSE. 
          LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEXES ARE A BIG ISSUE FOR DART BECAUSE IT REQUIRES SO MUCH MORE ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL IN TERMS OF CODE ENFORCEMENT INSPECTORS AND POLICE OFFICERS. 
          SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CONSIDERATIONS. 
          RIGHT BEFORE THIS AFTER ACTION MEETING, ADD ON THE DATE OF A DART, THE DART UNIT MEETS AT A STAGING LOCATION. 
          SECURITY BRIEFING IS HELD. 
          THE POLICE GO TO THE LOCATION AND CLEAR THE LOCATION, WHICH IS, UH, REMOVING THE OCCUPANTS FROM THE PROPERTY. 
          THEY CLEAR THE PROPERTY AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF THE TEAM IS TOLD THEY CAN COME TO THE LOCATION. 
          AND THE INVESTIGATION STARTS. 
          AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE INSPECTION. 
          WE HAVE A INFORMAL MEETING TO DETERMINE WHAT THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION IS GOING TO BE FOR A COMPLETE ABATEMENT OF THAT PROPERTY. 
          PART OF THAT PROCESS WHEN WARRANTED, INCLUDES AN AFTER ACTION MEETING WHERE WE'LL MEET WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS OR THE TENANTS TO DISCUSS WHAT THE CITY EXPECTS WILL HAPPEN WITH THAT PROPERTY. 
          AND THIS IS THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, COME INTO COMPLIANCE VOLUNTARILY. 
          APPROXIMATELY 90% OF OUR DARTS, THEY COMPLY VOLUNTARILY. 
          WHETHER IT'S, WE REQUIRE 
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CLOSURE OF THE PROPERTY FOR A PERIOD OF TIME TO MOVE THE ENTIRE CRIMINAL ELEMENT OUT, WHETHER IT'S TO CLOSE THE PROPERTY UNTIL ALL REPAIRS ARE MADE. 
          UM, AND DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES, WE OBTAIN VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE. 
          WE ENTER INTO, UH, WHAT WE CALL A COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT. 
          IT'S A CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE OWNER OR OCCUPANT THAT THEY WILL ABIDE BY THE TERMS THE CITY IS REQUIRING. 
          IF THEY DON'T COMPLY, THEN WE PROCEED WITH LITIGATION. 
          IF THEY BREACH THAT CONTRACT, IF THEY REFUSE TO COMPLY VOLUNTARILY, THAT IS WHEN THE DECISION IS MADE. 
          ONE, IS IT, UH, THE NATURE OF THE STRUCTURE SUCH THAT WARRANTED TO BRING IT BEFORE Y'ALL FOR REPAIR OR DEMOLITION ORDERS? UH, DO WE NEED TO GO STRAIGHT TO A LAWSUIT TO CLOSE IT? IF IT'S A CRIMINAL, UH, PROPERTY, WE FILE A LAWSUIT TO HAVE THE PROPERTY CLOSED, BOARDED, AND SECURED FOR ONE YEAR. 
          NO ONE'S ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY, INCLUDING THE OWNER EXCEPT FOR MAINTENANCE PURPOSES. 
          OR IT'S A CHAPTER 54 SUIT. 
          IT'S A CODE VIOLATIONS, ANIMAL CARE VIOLATIONS, FIRE CODE HEALTH. 
          THAT LAWSUIT IS FILED TO HAVE THE PROPERTY, UH, DEEMED A PUBLIC NUISANCE AND TO REQUIRE REPAIR, WHAT HAVE YOU. 
          UH, NEXT ONE. 
          SO THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE STATUTES WE OPERATE UNDER. 
          SO FOR CRIMINAL, THE STATUTE CALLS IT A COMMON NUISANCE, AND THEY'RE SPECIFIED CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. 
          NOT ALL CRIMINAL ACTIVITY CAN BE LOOKED AT. 
          SO THESE ARE SPECIFICALLY NARCOTICS, PROSTITUTION, GANG ACTIVITY, DISCHARGE OF FIREARMS, UH, SEX TRAFFICKING, DISORDERLY CONDUCT ASSAULTS, AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS, ROBBERIES, HOMICIDES. 
          CLEARLY PUBLIC NUISANCE IS FOR THOSE WITH CODE VIOLATIONS. 
          THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CODE, THE LEGISLATURE TWO SESSIONS AGO CHANGED THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CODE STATUTE TO ALLOW FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY TO FILE A LAWSUIT UNDER THE STATE STATUTE. 
          PREVIOUSLY, I WAS NOT ABLE TO FILE UNDER THE STATUTE. 
          I HAD TO BEG AND BEG AND BEG T A B C OR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TO JOIN THE LAWSUIT. 
          IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING 'CAUSE UM, IN THE 15 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, THEY HAVE NEVER ONCE JOINED A LAWSUIT. 
          AND SO WE GOT SOME FRIENDS OVER AT T A B C TO PUSH FOR THIS LEGISLATION WHERE NOW THE CITY CAN SUE. 
          FINALLY, . 
          AND THEN CITY CODES, UH, ALL THE CODES THAT Y'ALL DEAL WITH. 
          CHAPTER SIX, SAMHSA. 
          UH, CHAPTER FIVE FOR ANIMALS. 
          CHAPTER 15, I'M BLANKING ON WHAT IS CHAPTER 15. 
          RESTAURANTS. 
          HEALTH. 
          HEALTH. 
          HEALTH. 
          HEALTH. 
          OKAY, NEXT ONE. 
          UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR A CRIMINAL, UH, NUISANCE LAWSUIT. 
          THESE ARE GONNA BE AGAINST THE CRACK HOUSES, UH, PROSTITUTION HOUSES. 
          WE FILED QUITE A FEW AGAINST SBS WHERE THEY WERE SELLING DRUGS OR PROSTITUTING OUT OF THERE. 
          AND LIKE I SAID, IS TO HAVE IT, UH, BOARDED, CLOSED, SECURED FOR ONE YEAR, THEY HAVE TO POST A BOND OF UP TO $10,000 TO ASSURE US THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA ALLOW THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY TO COME BACK. 
          AND THEN IT ALLOWS, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL MEASURES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY, THEY COMPLY. 
          AND THE BIGGEST THING WITH COURT ACTIONS IS WE GET CONTEMPT. 
          SO IF THEY, UH, ALLOW CRIMINAL ACTIVITY TO CONTINUE, I CAN ASK FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO BE THROWN IN JAIL. 
          UH, NEXT ONE. 
          UH, PUBLIC NUISANCE. 
          CHAPTER 54. 
          Y'ALL ARE PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THIS. 
          THIS IS, UH, FOR, UH, THE CODE VIOLATIONS, ANIMAL FIRE HEALTH WITH THE, UH, JUST TO LET Y'ALL KNOW, WHENEVER WE GET AN APPEAL OF ONE OF YOUR DEMOLITION ORDERS, WE AUTOMATICALLY COUNTER SUE WITH CHAPTER 54. 
          AND I WON'T GET INTO THE WHOLE BORING LEGAL REASONS WHY, BUD. 
          IT'S BECAUSE THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT CAME OUT WITH A STUPID DECISION. 
          BUT ANYWAY, SO WE USE THIS QUITE A BIT. 
          NEXT ONE, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT T A B C. 
          WE CAN, UH, SKIP THAT. 
          AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO SHOW Y'ALL, UM, SOME OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WE'VE DARTED, 
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SOME MAY HAVE COME BEFORE Y'ALL. 
          SOME, UH, WE OBTAIN VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE. 
          NOW, WHEN WE BRING A DART PROPERTY TO B SS B, IT IS NOT ALWAYS WITH THE GOAL OF HAVING IT DEMOLISHED. 
          WE DO WANT TO WORK WITH THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS. 
          WE FEEL HAVE, UH, SHOWN AN INCLINATION TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM AND REPAIR THE PROPERTY. 
          WE ALWAYS WANNA GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO DO THAT. 
          AND THE REASON IT GETS BROUGHT TO B US BEYOND A REPAIR IS THEY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN INCLINED DURING THE AFTER ACTION MEETING. 
          BUT WHEN PEOPLE GET BEFORE THIS BOARD, THEY KNOW IT'S SERIOUS. 
          AND SO THAT IS WHY NOT EVERY PROPERTY, NOT EVERY DART PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE BROUGHT FOR A DEMOLITION ORDER. 
          UH, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A PROPERTY WE HAD EARLY ON. 
          UH, THERE WERE, UH, NEEDLES EVERYWHERE THAT HAD A SIX MONTH OLD BABY CRAWLING AROUND THE NEEDLES THE DAY WE HIT THE, THE DART. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE. 
          IT'S WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE INSIDE. 
          THERE WERE, UH, SIX PEOPLE, INCLUDING THE SIX MONTH OLD BABY AND TWO DOGS WALKING AROUND ALL THIS. 
          AND THIS WAS AFTER THE DARK. 
          THAT WAS AN INSTANCE WHERE IT CLEARLY WARRANTED AN EMERGENCY DEMOLITION. 
          AND SO WE WENT THAT ROUTE. 
          NEXT ONE. 
          THIS IS, UH, PROPERTY, UH, ON CLUB. 
          THIS WAS A DART PROPERTY. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE. 
          WE FOUND QUITE A FEW WEAPONS, A LOT OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA. 
          THIS IS, UH, WE ENDED UP HAVING TO FILE A LAWSUIT TO GET THE OWNER'S COOPERATION. 
          WE WON IN COURT. 
          UH, IT FORCED THE BANK TO FORECLOSE ON THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY OWNER. 
          THIS IS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL. 
          UH, HE WAS RENTING OUT TO PEOPLE ON GRINDR. 
          AND, UH, THERE WERE NO UTILITIES AT THE TIME. 
          SO THEY WERE COMING ACROSS THE TREE, UH, STREET TO THE WATER FOUNTAIN AT JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL TO TAKE BASS IN OR ENGAGE IN SEX OR WHAT HAVE YOU. 
          AND SO, UH, THE LAWSUIT FORCED THE FORECLOSURE. 
          AND THIS IS WHAT THE HOUSE LOOKS LIKE NOW. 
          UH, THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT WE HIT, UH, FOR DRUG ACTIVITY. 
          YOU CAN NOTICE ALL THE CODE VIOLATIONS. 
          UH, NOT ONLY CHAPTER SIX VIOLATIONS, BUT THE SAMHSA VIOLATIONS. 
          THIS IS WHAT THE PROPERTY IS, UH, LOOKED LIKE. 
          AT THE TIME. 
          WE TOOK THE PICTURE. 
          UH, WE FORCED A SALE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          AND, UH, THEY ARE, UH, THEY HAVE COMPLETED IT BY NOW. 
          THIS IS ONE OF OUR HOARDING PROPERTIES WITH ANIMALS. 
          UH, THIS PROPERTY HAD ERIC, WAS IT 30, 30 DOGS? MM-HMM. 
          , UH, ALL THAT THAT YOU SEE ON THE TOP RIGHT HAND PICTURE, THAT'S HUMAN FECES AND ANIMAL FECES. 
          AND THIS WOMAN WAS LIVING IN THE HOUSE. 
          THE DOGS WERE LIVING UNDERNEATH THE BASEBOARD. 
          I MEAN, THE, THE FLOORING, UH, JUST TRASH EVERYWHERE. 
          THIS IS WHAT THE HOUSE LOOKS LIKE. 
          NOW, AFTER, UH, IT CAME AND A REPAIR ORDER WAS ISSUED, UH, THAT PARTICULAR ONE WAS VERY INTERESTING. 
          WE HAD, UH, N H S D WITH US. 
          AND AS SHE WAS WALKING THROUGH THE BACKYARD, THERE WERE, UH, FULL BOTTLES OF URINE EVERYWHERE. 
          AND, UH, SHE ENDED UP STEPPING ON ONE AND EXPLODING. 
          IT WAS  QUITE THE, QUITE THE DART, BUT THE GORGEOUS HOUSE. 
          NOW, NEXT ONE, THIS IS, UH, IT WAS A, A MULTI-UNIT LOCATION. 
          HAD A LOT OF, UH, ILLEGAL GAMBLING EQUIPMENT. 
          CEILING WAS FALLING DOWN. 
          THE OWNER, I BELIEVE WAS IN HIS EIGHTIES, RESIDING IN THIS. 
          IT WAS A SITUATION WHERE THE KIDS WERE IN CONTROL OF THE PROPERTY AND REFUSING TO ALLOW ACCESS. 
          UM, NEXT ONE. 
          THAT'S WHAT IT GOT TURNED INTO. 
          UH, NEXT, THIS WAS, UH, THE FIRST APARTMENT COMPLEX WE HIT IN 2007. 
          AND THE DAY WE DARTED IT, IT WAS, UH, THE SECOND DART WE HAD EVER DONE. 
          THIS IS THE POOL OUTSIDE THAT AT THE TIME, WE HAD TO TELL THE KIDS TO GET OUT OF THAT POOL ON THE DAY OF THE INSPECTION. 
          THE INTERIOR IS AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE UNITS, UH, NEXT BAY. 
          SAME WITH, 
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UH, WHAT THE INTERIORS LOOKED LIKE. 
          ON THE DAY OF THE DART, THERE WAS A STRONG ODOR OF GAS. 
          AND, UH, WE FOUND LIVE ELECTRICAL WIRES. 
          THE PLACE WAS ABOUT TO EXPLODE SO THAT, THAT DAY THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY ORDER TO VACATE ALL TENANTS. 
          D H S AS IT WAS CALLED AT THE TIME, ASSISTED WITH RELOCATING ALL THE TENANTS. 
          THE WOMAN WHO OWNED THE COMPLEX LIVED IN CALIFORNIA. 
          SHE DIDN'T SEE WHY THIS WAS A PROBLEM. 
          SHE WOULD NOT VOLUNTARILY COOPERATE. 
          WE ENDED UP SUING HER. 
          UH, NEXT PAGE. 
          GOT THE BANK INVOLVED. 
          THE BANK FORECLOSED. 
          THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW. 
          THE, UH, IT'S NOW CONSIDERED ONE OF THE HIGH-END PROPERTIES RIGHT OFF OF VANCE JACKSON. 
          AND THIS WAS FEATURED IN THE EXPRESS NEWS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO AS, UH, ONE OF THE OASIS, UH, TO LIVE IN NEAR DOWNTOWN. 
          AND THE SWIMMING POOL, THAT'S WHAT IT BECAME. 
          IT'S A POND WITH LILIES AND ALL THAT IN THERE. 
          THIS ONE, I JUST THROW ONE 'CAUSE IT'S MY FAVORITE . 
          THIS IS, UH, THIS WAS A RIA, UH, MARI WHERE, UH, YOU COULD, UH, GO GET A TACO AND GET A LAP DANCE AT THE SAME TIME. 
          SO, UH, NEXT SLIDE. 
          IT'S, UH, IT'S GREAT FOR DIGESTION. 
          UH, IT'S NOT A GREAT PICTURE, BUT, UH, YEAH, IF YOU LIKE YOUR TACO WITH A SIDE OF BEEF, , THIS WAS THE PLACE TO GO. 
          UH, NEXT ONE, THEY HAD, THESE WERE THEIR WEEKLY SPECIALS. 
          THEY ACTUALLY HAD A THONG DAY. 
          THEY WERE WEARING THONGS AS THEY SERVED YOU YOUR TACOS. 
          THE WET T-SHIRT DAY. 
          AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS A SPECIAL ONE. 
          THEY, UH, NEXT SLIDE. 
          THEY ALSO HAD A VINI CAR WASH. 
          THAT, THAT WAS THE NAME OF IT. 
          AND SO, YEAH, WE, UH, WE SUED THEM AND SHUT THEM DOWN. 
          AN EXAMPLE OF A HOUSE ON THE EAST SIDE, UH, THIS WAS A GANG HOUSE, FOUND SEVERAL PROSTITUTES AND CRACK ADDICTS INSIDE THE LOCATION. 
          THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE AFTERWARDS. 
          AND, UH, , LET ME TELL YOU, THAT WAS QUITE THE BATTLE BECAUSE THAT WAS THE FIRST HISTORIC GANG HOUSE I'VE EVER COME ACROSS. 
          SO WE HAD TO FIGHT THE, THAT WHOLE ASPECT OF IT. 
          UH, NEXT ONE. 
          THIS WAS A PROPERTY THAT, UH, WE HIT BECAUSE OF ANIMAL, UH, ABUSE. 
          THIS WOMAN HAD, UH, 35, 40 CHIHUAHUAS IN THE LOCATION INSIDE THOSE CRATES. 
          ALL ON TOP OF EACH OTHER IN THEIR OWN FILL. 
          NEXT ONE. 
          THIS IS WHAT THE HOUSE LOOKED LIKE. 
          THIS WOMAN, UH, WAS THE HEAD OF NURSING AT, UH, BSS C OH WOW. 
          SHE DIDN'T LIVE IN THE HOUSE 'CAUSE IT WAS LIKE THIS. 
          BUT THE DOGS WERE IN THERE. 
          UH, NEXT PICTURE. 
          THEY WERE ALL, UH, STACKED ON TOP OF EACH OTHER, UH, IN THEIR OWN FELT. 
          THEY WEREN'T GETTING FOOD. 
          THIS WAS THE BATHROOM. 
          SAVITA. 
          JUST, JUST TO INTERRUPT, I, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THAT THAT BAREBACK TRAIL, WHEN WE TOOK THOSE PICTURES OF THOSE DOGS, IT WAS COMPLETELY DARK IN THERE. 
          SO WHEN YOU'RE WALKING AROUND AND WE'RE SEEING PICTURES OF THE RAT IN THE, IN THE, IN THE, IN THE TOILET OR THOSE DOGS STACKED UP, UM, IT WAS DARK WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THERE. 
          SO IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS TRAUMATIC FOR ME. 
          IT WAS BAD. 
          IT WAS, UH, UH, THERE WERE SEVERAL DEAD DOGS INSIDE. 
          BUT WHAT MADE IT EVEN WORSE? UH, WE NOTICED THAT THE OWNER STARTED ACTING REALLY HINKY AROUND HER CAR. 
          WELL, THIS WAS HER CAR. 
          THERE ARE DEAD DOGS IN EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE TRASH BAGS, DEAD DOGS. 
          UH, WE BROUGHT IT TO AT THE, UH, TO B S B. 
          AND, UH, Y'ALL DID ORDER IT DEMOLISHED BASED ON THE CONDITIONS AND THE FACT THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, TESTIFIED THAT THE AMMONIA FROM THE FECES AND THE URINE HAD SO CREPT INTO THE FOUNDATION, THE SHEET ROCK, THAT IT JUST WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED. 
          AND I JUST WANNA GIVE YOU EXAMPLES OF THIS HAS JUST BECOME VERY, VERY PREDOMINANT. 
          UM, THE TRASH HOARDERS, THIS IS ONE OF THE HOUSES WE HAD. 
          UH, NEXT PICTURE, THIS IS A VIEW FROM THE SECOND STORY. 
          HE WAS A BIG FAN OF WHATABURGER . 
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THIS WAS THE LIVING ROOM WINDOW, THE BATHROOM THAT HE WAS UTILIZING. 
          AND THEN THIS IS AFTER, UH, WE OBTAINED VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE. 
          WE HAD CALLED ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES IN. 
          WE ALSO HAD THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT INVOLVED. 
          WE WENT AND GOT ASSISTANCE FROM THE CHURCHES IN THE AREA, AND THEY HELPED CLEAN UP THE PROPERTY FORM, UH, ONE OF OUR METH HOUSES. 
          ALSO A HOARDER SITUATION, ALL THAT STUFF ON THE COUNTER. 
          THEY WERE COOKING METH. 
          IT WAS A, A ELDERLY COUPLE THAT WERE LIVING. 
          THIS IS WHAT THEY WERE, UH, THE CONDITIONS THEY WERE LIVING IN. 
          AND THIS ONE, UH, IT WAS COMING TO B SS B. 
          AND THEN THE SHOW HOARDERS CONTACTED US AND ASKED IF THERE WAS A PROPERTY THAT THEY COULD ASSIST WITH. 
          UH, HOARDERS CAME DOWN, CLEANED IT, AND THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. 
          NOW. 
          THIS IS, UH, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, UH, RIGHT DOWNTOWN, UH, FOR JUST RIGHT DOWN IT'S CATTLEMAN SQUARE, HISTORIC AREA, LOT OF LOT, A LOT OF DRUGS GOING THROUGH THEIR PROSTITUTION. 
          WE WORKED WITH THE OWNERS. 
          THEY VOLUNTARILY CLOSED IT UP AND, UH, ADDRESSED THE HOMELESS, UH, SITUATION THERE. 
          ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF A HOUSE. 
          THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW. 
          ANOTHER, UH, ANOTHER ONE. 
          IT'S IN THE PROCESS OF BEING RENOVATED, UH, AGAIN WITH THE HOARDING THIS TIME OUTSIDE STORAGE EVERYWHERE. 
          THIS IS, UH, WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE CLEANED UP. 
          NOW THIS PROPERTY, UM, UH, I'M NOT GONNA GIVE YOU THE ADDRESS, BUT, UH, THIS IS ONE WHERE, AGAIN, IT WAS A OLDER WOMAN LIVING IN THE HOUSE. 
          THE KIDS WERE ALLOWING, UH, THE HOMELESS TO CAMP OUT ON THE PROPERTY AND IN THE BACKYARD. 
          THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE. 
          AFTER THE SECOND TIME, UH, WE WENT IN, RELOCATED THE HOMELESS AND CLEANED UP THE PROPERTY. 
          UH, ANOTHER PROPERTY WITH A LOT OF DRUG ACTIVITY AND OUTSIDE STORAGE. 
          THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW. 
          CLEANED UP. 
          AND THEN JUST A FINAL LOOK. 
          SO YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR HEADS. 
          ANIMAL HOARDER SITUATION. 
          THOSE ARE ALL CANS OF DOG FOOD. 
          AND THE DOGS WERE ALL WALKING AROUND THERE. 
          IT WAS AN OLDER MAN, UH, WHO WAS TAKING HIS SHOWERS AT THE GAS STATION DOWN THE STREET. 
          AND SO, UH, THAT ONE WAS ALSO ADDRESSED BY THIS BOARD. 
          AND WE FOUND A, A RELOCATION FOR THE OWNER WITH, UH, FAMILY MEMBERS. 
          SO I WANTED TO SHOW YOU ALL THOSE. 
          I I WANTED TO FOCUS ON, UH, THE RESULTS WHERE WE DON'T NECESSARILY DEMOLISH THE PROPERTY. 
          UH, WE DO WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE PROPERTIES REPAIRED IF IT'S FEASIBLE, IF THE OWNER IS COMPLIANT. 
          AND SO, I I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT 'CAUSE I KNOW THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT IF IT'S A DART, THEN WHY ARE YOU ALLOWING REPAIRS? IT'S, IT'S ON A CIRCUMSTANCE BY CIRCUMSTANCE BASIS. 
          AND IF WE FEEL THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, WE WILL GET INVOLVED WITH THE BANKS IF THERE'S A MORTGAGE ON IT, OR WE'LL GET INVOLVED WITH FAMILY MEMBERS WHO WANT TO ADDRESS THE SITUATION. 
          AND WE BRING IT BEFORE THE BOARD. 
          UH, SO THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF THE SERIOUSNESS, SERIOUSNESS OF IT. 
          AND THE FACT THAT ONCE THE BOARD ISSUES THAT ORDER, THEY HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO COMPLY. 
          OTHERWISE WE HAVE TO TAKE THE REMEDY OF LAST RESORT. 
          UH, QUESTIONS ABOUT DART. 
          I'VE GOT A FEW, WE'VE ALL SEEN CASES OTHER THAN THE DARTS WHERE SOME OF THOSE LOOK LIKE QUARTERS. 
          AND IN THE DART PROGRAM THERE WAS HEALTH, NOT MENTAL HEALTH, BUT HEALTH PEOPLE. 
          BUT YOU DO TAKE 'EM OUT ON SPECIFIC CASES. 
          AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, IS THAT CASE BY CASE OR IS THAT BECAUSE OF WHAT WE SAW HERE? SOME OF THOSE COULD BE BORDERLINE MENTAL ISSUES OF ORDERING. 
          DO YOU MAKE THE DETERMINATION WHEN YOU GET OUT THERE THAT YOU NEED MENTAL HEALTH OR DO YOU MAKE THE DETERMINATION PRIOR WHEN YOU DO THE PLANNING? UH, PRIOR TO NOW. 
          UH, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S 
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SO KEY TO HAVE THE SAFE OFFICERS, BECAUSE THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH WHO'S LIVING AT THE LOCATION. 
          HAVE THEY HAD MENTAL HEALTH CALLS IN THE PAST? AND SO NOW THAT IS, UH, ONE OF THE CRITERIA WE LOOK AT SPECIFICALLY, UH, WHEN SCHEDULING A PROPERTY. 
          BECAUSE THEN WE WILL SCHEDULE THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT TO BE AVAILABLE. 
          WE WILL ENSURE THAT A P SS OR C P SS OR WHICHEVER APPROPRIATE WILL BE AVAILABLE. 
          AND, AND THAT GOES TO SOME OF THESE OTHERS THAT WE'VE SEEN UP HERE THAT LOOK LIKE SOME OF THOSE KITCHENS LOOK LIKE SOME OF THE HOUSES WE ADDRESSED. 
          MM-HMM. 
           NOT DARK. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO DO THOSE BORDERLINE, NOW THAT YOU SEE THIS OPENS YOUR EYES TO MAYBE THERE'S MENTAL OTHER THAN JUST A REGULAR PERSON JUST THROWING STUFF IN THE, LIKE SOME OF THE KITCHENS LOOKED EXACTLY LIKE SOME OF THE CASES WE'VE HANDLED THAT WERE NOT DARK. 
          THEY DO. 
          CODE ENFORCEMENT DOES AN OUTSTANDING JOB WITH, UH, IF THERE ARE ISSUES, UH, LIKE THAT OR THE POTENTIAL ISSUES. 
          'CAUSE UH, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL ARE MORE THAN AWARE THAT IT TAKES ALMOST UP TO 15 MONTHS BEFORE THEY WILL BRING A PROPERTY TO YOU. 
          SO THEY'VE ATTEMPTED TO WORK WITH THE OWNER AND THEY PROVIDE ALL THE INFORMATION ON SERVICES. 
          AND IF THERE IS A CONCERN ABOUT, UH, MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, THEY WILL BRING IN THE, UH, MENTAL HEALTH UNITS SO WHEN IT GETS HERE, THE ASSUMPTIONS NORMALLY BEEN, EVERYTHING HAS BEEN DONE. 
          IN FACT, I THINK THERE WERE A FEW BOARD MEMBERS THAT ACTUALLY ASKED BEFORE, IF SOME OF THOSE PERSONNEL WERE GUIDED IN THE DIRECTION OF MENTAL HEALTH AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ISSUE, LIKE THE TIRES MM-HMM. 
          , STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          SOME OF THESE CASES SHOULD HAVE HAD FIRE OR SOMEBODY LIKE THAT. 
          NOW AGAIN, IS THE CO COMPLIANCE OFFICER, IS THERE SOME TYPE OF GUIDELINES THEY GO THROUGH THAT WILL TRIGGER MAYBE THIS PERSON NEEDS MENTAL HEALTH, OR DOES THAT GO UP HERE AT YOUR UPPER LEVEL? I WOULD SAY LIKE, IF Y'ALL DO THAT ALMOST FROM THE GET GO, YOU MAKE THAT ASSESSMENT. 
          NOW WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH ASPECT, UH, WITH THE DARK ONES, IT'S MORE CLEAR CUT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THE HISTORY, UH, WITH THE PROPERTIES CODE COMES ACROSS US. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAN'T ASSUME THAT THERE'S MENTAL HEALTH, UH, CONCERNS. 
          BUT THE CODE OFFICERS DO A VERY GOOD JOB WHEN INTERACTING WITH THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS OR THE TENANTS OR, UH, FAMILY MEMBERS. 
          IF, UH, THERE'S A, A RED FLAG PUT UP, THEN YES, THEY WILL CERTAINLY GET AN H S D INVOLVED AND OR WORK WITH A SAFE OFFICER TO GET THE SS A P D MENTAL HEALTH UNIT INVOLVED. 
          AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE NORMALLY WHEN YOU GO OUT, YOU'RE ALREADY MEETING THE PEOPLE ON A DEFENSIVE NOTE ALREADY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , WHICH SOMEBODY MAY ALREADY SAY, WELL, HE'S ALREADY MENTAL, OR SHE'S MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO WITH THE ASPECT IN PLACE, WE KNOW, WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE WEEDS OF THE DETAILED, THAT ONCE YOU START THE DART AND YOU HAVE THESE PROGRAMS OVER HERE FOR DART, ARE THERE SIMILAR PARALLELS OR SIMILAR, UH, PROCESS? PROCESS WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH JUST SOMEBODY WITH A KITCHEN WHEN YOU WALK IN AND SEE THE SAME THING IN THE KITCHEN? DOES THAT TRIGGER A NOW A NEW SET OF GUIDELINES ON HOW YOU HANDLE THAT INDIVIDUAL? BECAUSE WE, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE SEEN CASES WHERE SOME OF THOSE LOOK LIKE THEY MM-HMM. 
           ORDERS THEMSELVES, ESPECIALLY THE BATHROOMS AND THE KITCHENS. 
          YEAH. 
          WITH THE, UH, IF THERE'S RED FLAGS THROWN UP, THEN YES, CERTAINLY THEY ARE ADDRESSED. 
          SO IT'S HANDLED HERE NOW, IT'S PROGRESSED UP TO, BEFORE IT HITS HERE, NOW IT TAKES ANOTHER AVENUE, WHICH COULD BE A FEW MORE MONTHS. 
          CORRECT. 
          WHICH IS NOT RELAYED OUT TO THE PUBLIC. 
          CORRECT. 
          'CAUSE THE ONLY THING THEY SEE, JUST LIKE THE ONES THAT WANT IT TORN DOWN RIGHT AWAY, THEY'RE ASSUMING THAT AS SOON AS YOU GUYS HAVE THE CASE THAT IT'S TORN DOWN THE NEXT DAY. 
          EXACTLY. 
          OR A COURT ORDER IS ISSUED, THEN AUTOMATICALLY IT'S TORN DOWN. 
          EXACTLY. 
          THERE'S, IS THERE A WAY, ALL OF US, THAT IT'S OUT IN THE PUBLIC, THE PROCESS, I KNOW EVERYBODY SAID WELL GO ONLINE, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ONLINE MM-HMM. 
          , AND TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS STEP BY STEP FOR SPECIFIC CASES, THAT THIS IS THE APPROXIMATE TIME. 
          IS THAT BEING RELAYED TO THE PUBLIC TO GET RID OF THE PERCEPTION THAT WE'RE JUST OUT HERE TO JUST DEMOLISH ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT'S IN OUR PATH? IT, IT'S NOT RELATED IN TERMS OF, THERE'S NOT A, A STEP BY STEP THAT 
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WE CAN PUBLISH, BECAUSE EVERY SITUATION HAS TO BE TAKEN ON ITS OWN MERITS. 
          AND SO, UH, FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD NOT WANT IT PUBLISHED BECAUSE IN SOME SITUATIONS WHERE, LIKE THAT VERY FIRST PICTURE WITH THE NEEDLES EVERYWHERE AND, UH, THE INSULATION AND ALL THAT, IT'S THE ONLY THING PROTECTING, UH, THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO ACT IN A QUICKER MANNER. 
          SO, UH, IT IS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, AND WE DO TRY TO EMPHASIZE TO EVERYBODY THAT IT TAKES A VERY LONG TIME, 15 MONTHS, IN SOME CASES, THREE YEARS, WHERE WE ALWAYS WANNA OBTAIN VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE. 
          WE PROVIDE INFORMATION ON THE SERVICES, MAYBE NOT A STEP BY STEP, BUT MAYBE A MORE, A MORE BROAD. 
          LIKE IF YOU ARE IN FOR GRASS, THE AVERAGE CASE RUNS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, THEN THE LEGAL NOTES, YOU HAVE TO PUT IN THOSE, THE FOOTNOTES MM-HMM. 
          . 
          BUT THIS IS THE AVERAGE TIMELINE. 
          SO IF YOU GO TO THE, THE BOARD MEETINGS OR THE HOMEOWNER, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS AND ALL THESE OTHER MEETINGS THAT PEOPLE WANT ANSWERS FOR, IF YOU GIVE THEM THAT, THEN THEY ALREADY ALREADY KNOW THEY PUT A HOUSE UP. 
          IT'S NOT GONNA BE IN TOMORROW, IT'S NOT GONNA BE DEMOED NEXT WEEK. 
          BUT THE PROCESS FOR THAT PARTICULAR THING ON JUST A FUNDAMENTAL, NOT INCLUDING ALL THE COMPLICATIONS THAT WILL COME UP, THE SUITS, THE RECOUNT SUIT AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT JUST THIS IS THE AVERAGE, NORMAL, BASIC CASE. 
          THE 99% CASE. 
          IF THERE'S COMPLIANCE, THEN THIS IS, YOU KNOW, STUFF LIKE, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS GO TO THE BOARD MEETINGS OR ASSOCIATION MEETINGS EVEN I GOT CO COMPLIANCE PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW THE EXACT TIMELINES AND THERE'S, BUT THERE'S A WINDOW, A WINDOW TIMELINE MM-HMM. 
          , IF I THINK MORE COMMUNITIES UNDERSTOOD THAT IT'S, IT'S FROM ONE MONTH FOR THE AVERAGE CODE COMPLIANCE, YOU'VE GOT 10 DAY RULE THAT THEY HAVE TO COMPLY BY, THEN THEY'RE ANOTHER MEETING. 
          IF YOU DIDN'T COMPLY, THEN YOU GET ANOTHER SUMMON. 
          THE, LIKE THAT NOT NECESSARILY LAYING EVERYTHING OUT, BUT IT, THEN THE FOOTNOTE, EVERYTHING'S DONE BY CASE, BY CASE. 
          HMM. 
          BUT IF YOU LINE THAT OUT THREE MONTHS TO SIX MONTHS, AND MOST PEOPLE I THINK WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT THAT PROPERTY IS A MINIMUM OF THIS, INSTEAD OF ASSUMING THAT EVERYTHING'S HAPPENING TODAY, JUST LIKE YOU GET ON YOUR PHONE, YOU CAN ORDER IT AND IT'S THERE TOMORROW. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , AND THAT'S THE SOCIETY WE'RE IN TODAY. 
          THE, I WANT TO ANSWER TOMORROW THING, AND IF THAT'S MM-HMM. 
           GIVEN OUT, NOT NECESSARILY HERE, BUT WHEN YOU GO TO THE, THE MEETINGS OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS AND ALL THAT, IF THEY'RE GIVING A GUIDANCE TIMELINE, NOT NEC NOT NECESSARILY STICKING TO IT DUE TO COURT AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF THAT YOU HAVE TO LEGALLY PUT IN THERE. 
          BUT WITH THAT, I THINK WOULD GIVE A LOT MORE PEOPLE EVEN IN THE AUDIENCE, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE WE KNOW GONE FOR YEARS AND THAT'S WHY THEY PLAY THE SYSTEM. 
          MM-HMM. 
          YEAH. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , THAT'S, AND THAT'S MY, BUT IF THERE WAS A TIMELINE, I THINK THAT WOULD ACTUALLY TELL THE PEOPLE, NO, YOUR TIMELINE STARTED AS SOON AS THEY WALKED ON YOUR PROPERTY FOR YOUR 10 DAY RULE. 
          THEN AFTER THE 10 DAYS LIKE THAT, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, FOR SMALL CASES. 
          AND AS IT BUILDS UP, I DON'T MEAN AN EXACT STEP BY STEP, BUT A FUNDAMENTAL TIMELINE OF IF IT'S FOLLOWED WITHIN MM-HMM. 
           LIKE THAT. 
          BECAUSE THAT'S JUST SEEMS TO BE THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WE HAVE, IS PEOPLE GET IN HERE ASSUMING THAT THING'S GONNA BE TORE DOWN TOMORROW WHEN WE RULE ON IT TODAY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          AND S YOU CAN CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT IT. 
          S WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? WHAT QUESTION? WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? YEAH, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? OH, JUST ABOUT, UH, UM, HOW, HOW ARE WE, ARE WE BEING EFFECTIVE, UH, EFFECTIVE IN PROVIDING INFORMATION ABOUT ALL THE BEHIND THE SCENES ACTIONS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE BEFORE A PROPERTY IS ULTIMATELY BROUGHT HERE, OR, UH, BATED. 
          AND SO YEAH. 
          WE'LL, CERTAINLY, UH, THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING, UH, WE CAN TALK ABOUT. 
          UH, LIKE I SAID, UH, I DON'T WANT ANYTHING PUBLISHED AS FAR AS STEP-BY-STEP, BUT, UH, CODE DOES A GREAT JOB AT THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS E EXPLAINING THAT, YOU KNOW, AS ROBERT WAS ALLUDING TO, UH, ANOTHER REASON FOR NOT PUTTING THAT ON PAPER. 
          SOME PEOPLE WILL GAME THE SYSTEM. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          THEY ARE. 
          AND, AND MY THING IS THIS TIMEFRAME, I KNOW IT MIGHT GO AGAINST THE GRAIN HERE, BUT IN MY OPINION, I WISH WE COULD FIND A WAY TO, TO, TO NARROW IT FROM 15 MONTHS TO 12. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , YOU'RE GIVING THESE PEOPLE AN EXTRA WEEKEND TO DO ONE MORE DRUG DEAL, TO DO ONE 
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MORE JOHN TO HURT THE BABIES. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , IT'S OVER. 
          YOU GOTTA, WE GOT TO INCR, I MEAN, IT'S OVER. 
          STOP THIS MM-HMM. 
          , STOP THIS BEHAVIOR. 
          THIS IS NOT SOMETHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , AND BY PROCRASTINATING AND ALLOWING THESE PEOPLE TO GO ON, WELL, I NEED TO DO ONE MORE DRUG DEAL. 
          SO COME UP WITH SOMETHING. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , YOU KNOW, I, THAT'S JUST, BUT THAT'S NOT AT OUR LEVEL. 
          MOST OF THIS IS ALREADY STATE LAW THAT IT HAS TO TAKE A SPECIFIC TIME. 
          YOU HAVE 30 DAYS THAT YOU HAVE TO NOTIFY. 
          IT HAS TO GO TO AN AGENDA. 
          MOST OF THIS IS DONE BY STATE LAW. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          SO THE PROCRASTINATING IS NOT DONE ON OUR LEVEL, BUT THE COMMUNITY'S EXPECTING IT TO BE TORE DOWN IN TODAY'S SOCIETY YESTERDAY WHEN IT GOT IN OUR COURT TODAY. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT ROB, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING, UH, YOUR LINES. 
          UH, ESPECIALLY WITH THE DARK ONES. 
          'CAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY ARE THE WORST OF THE WORST OUT THERE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO, UH, A LOT OF THE DARK PROPERTIES WILL BE BROUGHT TO YOU, UH, LONG BEFORE A TYPICAL, UH, DP PROPERTY WILL BE BROUGHT TO YOU. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , UH, BECAUSE OF THOSE VERY CONCERNS, UH, ESPECIALLY, UH, THE HOUSES WHERE WE'VE HAD SHOOTINGS OR MURDERS OR AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS. 
          AND YES, THAT DEFINITELY DOES PLAY INTO THE DECISION MAKING AS TO WHEN TO BRING A DART. 
          WELL, AND WHEN POLICE OFFICERS COME IN AND THERE'S A WRAP SHEET THIS LONG, I'VE BEEN THERE 200 TIMES. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , PLEASE. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          OH, I, I AGREE, HUH. 
          AND UNFORTUNATELY, LIKE SOME OF THE PROPERTIES WHERE THERE ARE PAGES AND PAGES AND PAGES OF CALLS FOR SERVICE, UH, THERE, UH, THERE ARE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE THE SAME LEVEL OF ACTIVITY GOING ON, BUT THERE'S NO CALLS. 
          'CAUSE THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE SO SCARED THAT THEY'RE NOT CALLING. 
          AND SO WE LOOK AT BOTH SITUATIONS AND WE LOOK AT THE SEVERITY OF WHAT'S OCCURRING ON THE PROPERTY. 
          AND FOR A DART, WE'RE GONNA BRING IT A LOT SOONER THAN LATER. 
          MM-HMM. 
           ON SOME OF THIS OTHER STUFF. 
          I'M GONNA DO A POINT OF WATER HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE, IT'S 20 TO 12, AND, UH, IF Y'ALL HAVE INDIVIDUAL QUESTIONS TO ASK AVITA, I'M SURE SHE'S OPEN TO, TO ASSIST, BUT RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO MOVE FURTHER 'CAUSE WE HAVE MORE SPEAKERS AND, UH, WE JUST NEED TO MOVE ON. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. 
          YEAH. 
          Y'ALL, UH, FRIDA EMAIL ME, CONTACT ME, CONTACT ERIC. 
          UH, DANNY WAS, UH, ONE OF OUR ORIGINAL DART MEMBERS, AND SO HE'S VERY FAMILIAR. 
          JENNY IS EXTREMELY FAMILIAR WITH DART. 
          SO, UH, ANY QUESTIONS? UH, THIS IS THE GROUP TO ASK, AND THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR THE ACTIONS YOU TAKE UNDER DART. 
          UH, THOSE ARE DEFINITELY CLOSE TO OUR HEART AND APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          OKAY. 
          WHO IS NEXT? JUDY EMERGENCY DEMOLITION PROCESS? GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD FOR THE RECORD. 
          DANNY LEE IS DEVELOPMENT SERVICE MANAGER FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT. 
          I'M GONNA KIND OF GO OVER SOME OF THE EMERGENCY DEMOLITION PROCESS. 
          UM, O OVER THE, I GUESS LAST SEVERAL WEEKS'S BEEN A FEW QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP, PARTICULARLY ABOUT THE STRUCTURES THAT WE BRING FORWARD THAT HAVE SUSTAINED SOME FIRE DAMAGE AND WHY ARE SOME COMING SOONER THAN OTHERS AND WHY SOME WARRANT EMERGENCY WHILE OTHERS DON'T. 
          AND, UM, KIND OF WHAT'S THE OVERALL PROCESS WHEN WE GO OUT TO DO THE ASSESSMENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I'M GONNA KIND OF WALK THROUGH THAT PROCESS. 
          SO AGAIN, UM, WHAT I'M GONNA COVER TODAY IS GONNA BE THE GENERAL OVERVIEW OF THE, UH, UH, EMERGENCY DEMOLITION PROCESS, UM, THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR, UH, COLLECTIVELY, UM, WE READ INTO THE RECORD 37 EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS. 
          UM, AND, AND I'LL GO OVER THAT SHORTLY AFTER I DO MY SECOND REPORT HERE FOR THE OVERALL AGENDA, UH, RATHER ACTION ITEMS. UH, BUT THERE'S TWO TYPES OF EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. 
          UM, WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED SUDDEN ACT AND WHAT'S CALLED LONG TERM. 
          UM, I'M GONNA SPEND MY TIME FOCUSING MAINLY ON THE SUDDEN ACT. 
          UM, THOSE ARE STRUCTURES THAT HAVE SUSTAINED FIRE DAMAGE, WATER DAMAGE, UM, MAYBE WHERE A CAR HAS GONE THROUGH A BUILDING OR, OR A STRUCTURE, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH TREES FALLING ON TOP OF A ROOF, ROOF COLLAPSE, SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENED JUST SUDDENLY. 
          RIGHT? AND THEN YOU HAVE THE, UH, LONG-TERM DETERIORATION. 
          UM, WE STUMBLE ACROSS THOSE THROUGH OUR INSPECTION PROCESS EVERY NOW AND THEN WHERE MAYBE IT'S 
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BEEN SITTING THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME, BEEN NEGLECTED OVER THE YEARS, AND IT'S DETERIORATED TO THE POINT WHERE, UH, NOW IT'S POSING SOME SERIOUS IMMINENT THREAT. 
          UM, AND SO I'M GONNA KIND OF GENERALLY SPEAK TO THE SUDDEN ACT TODAY, UH, BUT I CAN ANSWER A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT LONG-TERM AS WELL. 
          UH, IN GENERAL, THEY'RE BOTH ON THE SAME NOTIFICATION PROCESS EXCEPT, UH, LONG-TERM REQUIRES SOME ADDITIONAL STEPS NOTIFYING THE OFFICE OF STORE PRESERVATION, UH, THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY, AND THE COUNCIL OFFICE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UH, AGAIN, I'M GONNA FOCUS ON SUDDEN THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS ARE COMING UP, UM, IN REGARDS TO FIRE DAMAGE STRUCTURES. 
          SO, UM, CHAPTER SIX, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE KIND OF OUTLINES THE CITY'S POLICY, UM, ON HOW WE ADDRESS THE EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS IN GENERAL. 
          THIS SLIDE TELLS YOU THAT THE FIRE CHIEF OR THE DIRECTOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES OR A DESIGNEE, UH, WHETHER IT'S A FIRE ASSISTANT CHIEF, OR, UM, THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR, MR. TOMAS, UM, BOTH HAVE THE AUTHORITY, IF YOU WILL, TO, UM, TO ORDER A STRUCTURE TO BE DEMOLISHED ON AN EMERGENCY BASIS BASED ON THE CONDITION THEY SEE, RIGHT? UM, AGAIN, IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT POSES IMMINENT THREAT, AND THAT'S THE TAKEAWAY TODAY. 
          SOMETHING THAT POSES AN IMMEDIATE THREAT THAT IF, IF SHORT OF, YOU KNOW, ANY OTHER ABATEMENT, ACTION ONLY ACTION LEFT IS EMERGENCY DEMOLITION TO ELIMINATE THAT THREAT. 
          SO, UM, THIS IS WHAT THE SLIGHTEST SAYING GENERALLY. 
          AGAIN, UM, IN EITHER CASE THOUGH, UM, THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES HAS TO GIVE THE FINAL CONCURRENCE. 
          UM, HE ESSENTIALLY THE, THE LAST PERSON THAT SIGNS OFF ON THE AFFIDAVIT, UM, WITHOUT HIS CONCURRENCE, AND WE DON'T HAVE AN EMERGENCY DECLARATION ON HAND. 
          UM, AND SO HE ULTIMATELY DECIDES, UM, WHETHER IT SHOULD BE PURSUED AS AN EMERGENCY. 
          DEMOLITION. 
          SLIDE NUMBER THREE, UM, KIND OF OUTLINES THE PROCESS IN GENERAL. 
          I'M GONNA SPEND SOME TIME ON THIS SLIDE HERE. 
          UM, I'M NOT GONNA READ IT VERBATIM, UH, BUT I'M JUST GONNA KIND OF SPEND SOME TIME ON THIS HERE, KIND OF GO OVER AND OVER THE GENERAL PROCESS. 
          UH, SO TYPICALLY THE FIRST STEP IS, UM, WE DO HAVE A STAFF MEMBER, A SUPERVISOR, AND A, UH, A CHIEF BUILDING INSPECTOR THAT ARE ON CALL ESSENTIALLY 24 HOURS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE YEAR. 
          SO ESSENTIALLY THEY'RE ON CALL, UM, FOR ALL THESE EMERGENCIES THAT GET CALLED OUT, WHETHER, AGAIN, FIRE MAINLY MAKES THE CALL TO US, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE A TEAM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE FEW OFFICERS THAT ARE ALSO ON STANDBY THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO ASSIST, UM, AFTER HOURS OR ON THE WEEKENDS, UH, TO GO OUT AND CONDUCT THESE TYPES OF INSPECTIONS. 
          SO MOST OF THESE CALLS THAT WE GET COME IN FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, A HANDFUL COME IN FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, MAINLY FIRE DEPARTMENT INITIATES THE CALL. 
          UM, SO WE GET OUT THERE, WE, UM, WE, WE CONDUCT OUR INITIAL ASSESSMENT WHEN ME AND THE CODE OFFICER GETS OUT THERE FIRST, UH, AND THEN THEY COORDINATE WITH THE CHIEF BUILDING INSPECTOR. 
          UH, TODAY IN THE AUDIENCE I HAVE RAMIRO CARILLO, WHO'S A DEVELOPMENT SERVICE MANAGER THAT OVERSEES THE INSPECTION COMPONENT OF IT. 
          AND SO, UM, HE'S HERE TO HELP US, UH, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY THAT YOU GUYS WANNA ASK HIM AS WELL. 
          BUT GENERALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS THE COURT OFFICER GOES OUT, CONDUCTS INITIAL ASSESSMENTS, AND DETERMINES, YES, THIS ONE'S PRETTY BAD. 
          UM, IT DOES WARRANT AN EMERGENCY. 
          LET ME GET THE CHIEF INSPECTOR OUT HERE TO CONCUR WITH MY RECOMMENDATION OR MY ASSESSMENT. 
          UH, THEY GO OUT THERE, THEY LOOK AT IT TOGETHER. 
          UM, TYPICALLY THE FIRE, UH, INCIDENT COMMANDER, THE CHIEF IS STILL ON SCENE. 
          UH, THEY WALK THE PROPERTY TOGETHER AND THEN THEY COLLECT AS MUCH INFORMATION AS THEY CAN, UM, WHETHER REGARDING THE OWNER, UH, THE TENANTS, UM, WHETHER IT WAS VACANT, UM, AND THEN THE CONDITION OF IT OVERALL. 
          UM, THEY DOCUMENT ALL THEIR INSPECTIONS, THEIR FINDINGS THROUGH PHOTOS, RIGHT? UM, YOU'RE GONNA SEE SHORTLY IN A FEW MINUTES THAT THERE'S SOMETIMES WE GET CAUGHT AFTER HOURS. 
          IT'S SO DARK, WE CAN'T REALLY, UH, TAKE SOME GOOD PICTURES, SO WE HAVE TO GO OUT THERE FIRST THING IN THE MORNING. 
          UH, BUT ALL OUR DOCUMENTATIONS, UM, IS, IS IS TAKEN AND DONE THROUGH PHOTOS, RIGHT? UH, WE ALSO POST THE PLACARD. 
          UM, YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN A FEW OF THOSE STRUCTURES COME FORWARD. 
          UM, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE PLACARD HERE SHORTLY. 
          IT'S A PLACARD THAT WE POST IN THE STRUCTURE AS PART OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION PROCESS. 
          UM, THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT STEP OVERALL THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED SEVERAL YEARS AGO, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY KNOWS THAT ONE, WE'VE ASSESSED THIS STRUCTURE AND IT'S DANGEROUS, AND YOU NEED TO PROBABLY STAY OUT OF IT. 
          OKAY? AND THE SENATE IS CONSIDERING, UH, A DEMOLITION ON THIS STRUCTURE. 
          SO ONCE THE DETERMINATION IS MADE THAT THIS ONE IS WARRANT OR WARRANTS A DEMOLITION OR EMERGENCY DEMOLITION, UM, WE TAKE ALL THE INFORMATION AND FOLLOW IT UP TO, UH, EITHER DEPUTY DIRECTOR OR THE DIRECTOR OF DEVIN SERVICES. 
          UH, THEY GO OUT AND CONDUCT THEIR ASSESSMENTS, UH, AND THEIR FINDINGS. 
          UM, AND THERE'S A HANDFUL OF THEM THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT JUST BASED ON THE PHOTOS AND, YOU KNOW, COMMENTS THAT WILL PREVAILED THAT THIS ONE NEEDS TO COME DOWN, RIGHT? UH, AND I'M USING THE EXAMPLE, IF THERE'S A CASE WHERE THIS MAY BE JUST ONE WALL LEFT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT THERE TO REALLY SAVE, RIGHT? UH, BUT OTHER STRUCTURES, AGAIN, THEY HAVE, THEY GO OUT AND DO THEIR ASSESSMENTS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND IT'S, IT'S, UM, WE HAVE A SHORT WINDOW WE HAVE TO WORK WITH, RIGHT? SO, UH, ONCE WE GO OUT AND DO THE ASSESSMENT, UM, MR. SHANNON OR MR. TOMAS WILL THEN GIVE US A THUMBS UP. 
          YES. 
          THIS ONE I AGREE. 
          WARRANTS 
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AN EMERGENCY DEMOLITION, UM, THEY'LL DRAFT THE, UM, WHAT WE CALL THE EMERGENCY AFFIDAVIT, RIGHT? AND THEN THE BACK SIDE ON THE BACK END OF EVERYTHING, CODE ENFORCEMENT'S WORKING WITH C P S TO GET THE DISCONNECTS COMPLETED. 
          UM, THERE'S OFTEN TIMES WHERE FIRES ALREADY HAVE THE DISCONNECTS COMPLETED OR COM OR CALLED THE SERVICE IN TO GET, UH, THE UTILITIES PULLED BECAUSE IT, AGAIN, IT PULLS SUCH A DANGER, RIGHT? SO, UM, AND THEN WE, AGAIN, CONTINUE THE CASE FILE, UM, ONCE THE AFFIDAVIT'S OBTAINED, UH, WE HAVE ALL OUR PHOTOS. 
          WE COMPLETED OUR, WHAT WE CALL OUR STRUCTURE CONDITION REPORT. 
          UM, ALL THAT INFORMATION'S COMPILED INTO AN EMAIL, AND IT'S SENT OVER TO THE OFFICE STORE PRESERVATION AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, UM, JUST TO MAKE THEM AWARE OF THE STRUCTURE THAT'S GONNA BE PURSUED AS AN EMERGENCY DEMOLITION. 
          UH, AGAIN, THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT STEP IN OUR OVERALL PROCESS REGARDING NOTIFICATION. 
          UM, ONCE THE EMAIL GOES OUT, UH, THE, UH, THE OFFICER COORDINATES WITH OUR DEMOLITION CONTRACTOR, UM, TO GO OUT THERE AND, AND, AND ESSENTIALLY, I GUESS, BEGIN, IF YOU WILL, THE DEMOLITION ONCE THE DISCONNECTS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND THEY'VE BEEN CONFIRMED, UH, AND BARR, AND THERE'S NO, ANY KIND OF HOSE, WHETHER IT'S FROM ARSON, UH, OR ANY OTHER PENDING FIRE INVESTIGATION AT THAT TIME. 
          UM, AGAIN, UH, ONCE THE DEMOLITION'S COMPLETED, UM, THERE'S TWO ADDITIONAL STEPS THAT AREN'T OUTLINED IN HERE. 
          UH, WE SEND A SUMMARY ABATEMENT LETTER TO, UH, THE OWNER OF RECORD AND ALL LIEN HOLDERS THROUGH, UH, INFORMATION THAT WE GATHER THROUGH A TITLE SEARCH. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO BRING IT TO THE B S B TO READ INTO THE RECORD FOR THE FINAL STEP, UH, TO PINE'S CLOSURE. 
          OVERALL FOR THAT CASE. 
          AGAIN, I WENT THROUGH THE STEPS RATHER QUICKLY. 
          AND AGAIN, UM, AT THE END, WE CAN, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE MORE THAN GLAD TO ANSWER THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO, WHAT, WHAT YOU GOT HERE TODAY IS THE, IS, IS, IS A, IS REALLY A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT WE CALL THE FIRE WEEKLY REPORT. 
          SO, UM, SOMETIME AGO WE, WE WERE, UM, WE WERE BRINGING PROPERTY TO THE BOARD THAT, UM, THAT HAD SOME FIRE DAMAGE BUT DIDN'T NECESSARILY WARRANT AN EMERGENCY DEMOLITION. 
          AND, UM, WE WERE BEING ASKED, UM, BY PREVIOUS BOARD MEMBERS OR EVEN MAYBE YOURSELF, WERE WONDERING, WELL, WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG TO BRING THIS PROPERTY TO THE BOARD? UH, WHY WASN'T THIS CONSIDERED THIS EMERGENCY? AND SO WE RECOGNIZED QUICKLY THAT THERE WAS A GAP, I GUESS, UM, IN BETWEEN, UM, WHEN FIRE WAS DOING, I GUESS THEIR INITIAL CALL OUT TO THE TIME WE EITHER WOULD ACROSS THE FIRE DAMAGE STRUCTURE OR, UH, IT WAS REPORTED TO US, RIGHT? SO WE CLOSE THAT GAP, UM, WITH THIS FIRE WEEKLY REPORT. 
          SO WE GET THIS REPORT WEEKLY, AND THESE, IT, IT, IT SHOWS ALL THE FIRES THAT HAVE HAPPENED THE WEEK PRIOR. 
          UM, FIRES DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF MAPPING IT OUT FOR US, INCLUDING THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS. 
          SO EACH WEEK WHEN WE GET THIS REPORT, UH, WE DISTRIBUTE IT TO OUR DANGERS PERMITS OFFICERS, AND THEY GO OUT AND DO THE ASSESSMENTS, AND THEY FOLLOW THOSE SAME STEPS THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. 
          UM, A LOT OF THESE HERE, EITHER THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN REPORTED TO US, SO WE ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING IN THE QUEUE, UH, WHERE THEY WARRANTS AN EMERGENCY, UH, AND OTHERS NECESSARILY DON'T, RIGHT? UM, AND SO WHEN WE GO OUT THERE, WE DO THE ASSESSMENTS FOR THOSE THAT DON'T NECESSARILY WARRANT THE EMERGENCY. 
          NEXT, PLEASE. 
          UM, THERE'S A FEW FACTORS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, RIGHT? AND WE START THE PROCESS KIND OF ALL OVER AGAIN. 
          WE LOOK AT THE FOUNDATION, THE WALLS, AND THE ROOF SYSTEM TO HOW MUCH DAMAGE WAS SUSTAINED, RIGHT? SOME OF THIS STUFF IS SOMETIMES JUST MAYBE WATER DAMAGE, MAYBE SOME SMOKE DAMAGE DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THE STRUCTURES WERE COMPROMISED. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT WHETHER IT'S A PENDING ARTS AND INVESTIGATION, WERE THERE ANY FATALITIES, UM, AND THE PROXIMITY TO WHETHER AN ADJACENT STRUCTURE OR A DAYCARE OR A SCHOOL, AND, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE ANY SECURITIES THAT NEED TO TAKE PLACE, RIGHT? WE DO HAVE THE MEANS TO SECURE AND A STRUCTURE, NOT ONLY BY WITH, YOU KNOW, PLYWOOD, WINDOWS AND DOORS. 
          WE ALSO PUT A FENCE AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE STRUCTURE WHERE WE FEEL THIS ONE NECESSARILY ISN'T AN EMERGENCY, BUT IT'S POSING SOME THREAT. 
          MAYBE WE SHOULD SECURE IT WITH A FENCE BEFORE WE BRING IT TO THE BOARD. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UH, AND SO WE HAVE THE, UM, THE AUTHORITIES ERECT FENCE AROUND THOSE PROPERTIES AS WELL. 
          THESE STRUCTURES THAT DON'T NECESSARILY WARRANT THE EMERGENCY, WE EXPEDITE THOSE CASES, TYPICALLY TO THE BOARD. 
          UH, WE USUALLY BRING 'EM A LOT SOONER THAN LATER BECAUSE, AGAIN, OF THE EXTENT OF THE DAMAGE WHERE THEY'RE SUSTAINED, THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET 'EM TO YOU GUYS SOONER THAN LATER. 
          OKAY? AGAIN, UM, AND, AND I'M GONNA SHOW YOU A FEW EXAMPLES OF, OF SOME STRUCTURES HERE THAT WE'VE, THAT WE'VE ASSESSED, UM, OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEARS. 
          THIS IS THE ONE THAT WE GOT CAUGHT OUT. 
          OBVIOUSLY AFTER HOURS, YOU CAN SEE IT'S DARK OUTSIDE. 
          UH, FIRE WAS STILL ON SCENE. 
          THEY WERE CONDUCTING, UM, I GUESS THEIR INVESTIGATION STILL WORKING THROUGH SOME HOTSPOTS. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, SOME SMOKE STILL KIND OF SMOLDERING IN THE BACK AREA. 
          UM, BUT WE WERE OUT THERE EARLY. 
          UH, THE NEXT SLIDE YOU'LL SEE, WE HAD TO GO BACK OUT THE FOLLOWING MORNING, KIND OF GET A TRUE PICTURE OF WHAT WAS OUT THERE. 
          UH, THIS IS ONE THAT CERTAINLY WARRANTED THE EMERGENCY DEMOLITION, OBVIOUSLY BASED ON, UH, OUR FINDINGS AND THE CONDITION OVERALL, YOU CAN SEE IT WAS SO MUCH, SO MUCH SO COMPROMISED. 
          THERE'S REALLY NOT A WHOLE LOT, UH, IN THE CENTER OF THE STRUCTURE. 
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THE NEXT ONE, AGAIN, IS ANOTHER FIRE DAMAGE STRUCTURE. 
          AGAIN, AFTER HOURS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S, IT WAS ONE THAT WAS REPORTED TO US, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S NOW YOU CAN TELL BASED ON THE PICTURES. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, UM, HAD TO GO BACK OUT THE FOLLOWING DAY AND JUST DO A FOLLOW-UP. 
          AND THIS ONE CERTAINLY WARRANT EMERGENCY AS WELL. 
          THIS ONE WAS UNIQUE, RIGHT? BECAUSE THIS ONE HERE, UM, IF YOU DROVE BY THAT STRUCTURE, YOU'D ASK YOURSELF WHAT'S WRONG WITH IT? RIGHT? I CAN'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT. 
          I MEAN, IT LOOKS FINE. 
          THE FRONT FACADE IS INTACT. 
          WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? BUT IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE THE BACKSIDE OF IT. 
          THAT'S THE BACK END OF IT. 
          COMPLETELY GONE. 
          IT'S CHARRED. 
          NOW, WHY WAS THAT? THIS IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT SPARKED A DEBATE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO WHY WAS THIS ONE NOT PUT AS A DEMO WHEN 90% OF IT'S ALREADY, BUT IT WASN'T PUT IN EMERGENCY DEMO. 
          IT ACTUALLY CAME TO THE BOARD FOR DEMOLITION. 
          WHEN EVERY CODE IN THE WORLD TELLS YOU THAT'S MORE THAN 90% DAMAGE, THAT'S ONE OF THE ONES THAT I WANTED BROUGHT TO THE BOARD BECAUSE OF THE REASON IS WE SEEM TO HAVE THAT DISCREPANCY. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          LET ME GIMME SOME DETAILS. 
          I, I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS ON THIS ONE HERE. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          UM, MR. CHAIR, I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE THIS PROPERTY. 
          AND JUDY, YOU CAN, YOU CAN TELL ME IF I'M WRONG. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE THIS PROPERTY CAME TO THE BOARD. 
          I BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS A YES, IT DID. 
          WE DID IT. 
          THIS IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE ALL GOT STUNNED. 
          EVEN MR. NELSON GOT STUNNED WHEN WE SAW THE BACK OF IT. 
          THIS WAS ONE, THIS WAS THE LAST ONE THAT I DID. 
          THIS IS WHY I ASKED IF WE COULD HAVE A FIRE MARSHAL COME IN, BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF THIS. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS ONE IS DATED FROM 2017. 
          I DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. 
          WHAT THIS ONE, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU DO REALIZE THIS WAS FROM 2017, RIGHT? THIS IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE BOARD THAT WE'VE ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT. 
          I REMEMBER WE'VE HAD THIS ONE, THIS IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT CAME BEFORE US. 
          THE PICTURES MAY HAVE BEEN TAKEN IN 2017, AND THAT WAS THE OTHER QUESTION IS WHY IT TOOK SO LONG TO GET TO US. 
          BUT EITHER WAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          THERE SEEMS TO BE A, THE DISCONNECT ABOUT WHY THIS HOUSE GOT TO STAND AND OTHERS WERE IMMEDIATELY DEMOED THAT HAD LESS DAMAGE. 
          THIS IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING. 
          THAT WAS OUR PURPOSE OF BRINGING IT TO THE BOARD, BECAUSE THERE SEEMS TO BE THE DISCONNECT. 
          WE JUST NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS. 
          GOT IT. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          SO, UH, IN BETWEEN THE OTHER PRESENTATIONS, I'LL GO BACK AND DO SOME RESEARCH ON THAT ONE. 
          AND THEN, UH, BEFORE THE DAY, WE'LL TRY TO GET YOU AN ANSWER ON WHY THIS ONE WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN THE OTHERS. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, A FEW OTHER ONES THAT WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH HERE. 
          AGAIN, THERE'S THAT FENCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          THIS IS ONE THAT STAIN FIRE DAMAGE AS WELL. 
          UH, THE ARSON INVESTIGATION, UM, WAS, UH, THE RENT, ONE OF THE REASONS WE KIND OF PUT IT ON HOLD, BUT WE KNEW THAT WE NEEDED TO SECURE THAT AREA, SO WE ERECTED A FENCE AROUND THERE. 
          UH, THIS ONE EVENTUALLY WAS DEMOLISHED PRIVATELY BY THE OWNER. 
          UH, AND SO YOU CAN SEE THEY HAVE THEIR EQUIPMENT OUT THERE AND DOING THEIR OWN PRIVATE DEMOLITION. 
          SAME STRUCTURE, JUST FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE. 
          AGAIN, SHOWING THE FRONT OF THE FACADE OR FRONT ELEVATION SECURED WITH THE FENCE AS WELL. 
          AND THE LAST SLIDE THAT I HAVE HERE IS JUST ONE AGAIN THAT WE GOT CAUGHT OUT FOR. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE SECOND STORY HAS BEEN COMPROMISED SO MUCH, BUT THE FIRE DAMAGE. 
          BUT THIS ONE WAS DONE PRIVATELY. 
          THE OWNER MOVED IN, DID THE DEMOLITION THEMSELVES, AND THIS IS ONE THAT WAS, UM, DEMOLISHED BY THE OWNER, UM, USING THEIR OWN PRIVATE CONTRACTOR. 
          SO AGAIN, THAT, THAT KIND OF SUMS UP, I GUESS, MY PRESENTATION ON EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS. 
          UM, I'LL OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          I THINK WE WOULD JUST WAIT FOR YOUR ANSWER ABOUT THE DISCONNECT OF WHAT, WHAT REPRESENTS A EMERGENCY DEMOLITION VERSUS, UH, A DEMOLITION THAT WHEN IT'S BROUGHT TO THE BOARD, WE CONSIDER IT TO BE AN EMERGENCY. 
          YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, I GUESS IT'S SUBJECTIVE REALLY. 
          BUT, UH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT, UH, FRED WAS ASKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WARRANTS ARE AN EMERGENCY AND YOU LOOK AT THESE TWO PROPERTIES, ONE'S EMERGENCY AND ONE IS JUST AS BAD, BUT IT'S NOT MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO WE'LL WAIT FOR YOUR ANSWER. 
          YEAH, NO, DEFINITELY. 
          UH, I'LL GET YOU THE SPECIFICS ON THAT ONE. 
          I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT ONE. 
          UM, BUT JUST IN GENERAL, GOING BACK TO THE SLIDES EARLIER, UH, WHAT WARRANTS THE EMERGENCY IS THERE HAS TO BE THAT EMINENT THREAT, RIGHT? SO, UM, AND, AND I CAN CLEARLY SEE WHAT YOU'RE INDICATING IN THE, BASED ON THE PHOTOS YOU SEE. 
          UM, I JUST DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF THAT PARTICULAR ADDRESS. 
          THERE WERE A FEW OTHERS THAT CAME IN THAT LOOKED GREAT ON THE OUTSIDE, DIDN'T HAVE A ROOF, YOU KNEW THE ROOF WAS BURNED. 
          BUT WHEN YOU WALK IN, WHEN I DO IT AS A GENERAL CONTRACTOR, I WALK INTO THE BUILDING AND IT DOESN'T HAVE 90% OF ITS ROOF. 
          IT LOST ITS INTEGRITY. 
          MM-HMM. 
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, I HAVE TO TEAR THE BUILDING DOWN. 
          MY WHY DOES NOT THE CITY HAVE TO DO THE SAME? I CAN'T GET A PERMIT FOR A BUILDING. 
          IF IT'S 90% DAMAGED, IT MEANS NO STRUCTURE INSIDE IT. 
          BUT YOU HAVE WALLS, THOSE WALLS CAN BLOW OVER. 
          YEAH. 
          EVEN IF THEY JUST BRACED IT OUT FROM BOTTOM TO TOP, BOTTOM TO TOP, AND CROSS BRACED IT TO GIVE IT SOME STRENGTH UNTIL IT MET THE BOARD, FINE. 
          BUT IF THERE'S NO SAFETY TAKING IN THERE AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE GOING IN THERE NOT REALIZING IT'S BURNED OUT, OR JUST SEEING IF THEY CAN STEAL SOMETHING, TO ME AS A CONTRACTOR, I THINK THAT'S MORE OF A THREAT THAN HAVING A BUILDING LIKE THIS WHERE IT LOOKS PRETTY IN THE FRONT UNTIL YOU WALK AROUND THE BACK WHERE YOU CAN'T GET INTO IT. 
          BUT IT'S STILL A THREAT. 
          YEAH. 
          NO, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU. 
          I MEAN, AGAIN, CHAPTER SIX DOES OUTLINE SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE LOOK FOR WHEN IT COMES TO EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SOME OF THE FACTORS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. 
          THOSE COMPONENTS THAT ARE COMPROMISED, THE RULE OF THUMB GENERALLY IS BY 50%, RIGHT? SO EITHER THE FOUNDATION OR THE WALLS, OR THE ROOF SYSTEM, AS YOU MENTIONED, IS COMPLETELY GONE. 
          UH, THAT'S WHERE WE CONDUCT THE ASSESSMENT TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT MAKES IT WARRANTS AN EMERGENCY. 
          WE'VE SEEN THAT IN HERE WHERE THEY SAID THE ROOF WAS, YOU KNOW, THE ROOF'S GONE, BUT IT'S STILL STRUCTURE MM-HMM. 
          , IT'S NOT BY CODE AND BY LAW IT'S NOT STRUCTURED. 
          YEAH. 
          AGAIN, THIS ONE THAT WE POINTED OUT HERE, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S JUST AN ANOMALY THAT WE JUST, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS PRIOR TO THE GAP THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, RIGHT. 
          WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS CONNECTIVITY WE HAD BETWEEN US AND FIRE, WHICH AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, WE CLOSED IT WITH HIS WEEKLY REPORT. 
          I DON'T KNOW THE ENOUGH DETAILS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ADDRESS, UH, TO GIVE YOU EVEN A RESPONSE AND WHY IT TOOK SO LONG OR WHY IT WASN'T NECESSARY EMERGENCY. 
          BUT THERE ARE SOME OF 'EM ALSO THAT WOULD PROBABLY, WHAT ABOUT A SIMPLE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH PAPERWORK IT WOULD TAKE TO GET IT, BUT EVEN IF YOU WENT IN THERE JUST TO BRACE THE WALL OUT UNTIL IT MET THE BOARD, JUST TO GIVE IT SOME TYPE OF SECURE OTHER THAN A FENCE MM-HMM. 
          . 
          BUT IF IT WAS JUST TO BRACE THE WALL AND WE SAW ONE HOUSE LIKE THAT WAY BACK WHERE THE GUY WENT IN THERE TO BRACE IT, BUT IT WAS STILL CONDEMNED. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT HE BRACED IT JUST FOR THAT FACT. 
          YEAH. 
          IS THAT GOING TO BE A PROBLEM PUTTING IT INTO JUST A, A FORMALITY JUST TO GET US TO THIS LEVEL? OTHER THAN THAT, YEAH. 
          I'M NOT SURE WE, WE, WE EVER DISCUSSED WHETHER WE'D GO IN EMBRACE SOMETHING TEMPORARILY TO BE BROUGHT IT TO THE BOARD. 
          RIGHT. 
          IF IT'S A POINT WHERE IF IT WAS SUCH AN IMMINENT THREAT, WE PROBABLY WANNA DEMOLISH IT SOONER THAN LATER. 
          AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE STRUCTURES THAT THERE IS NO OTHER ABATEMENT, UM, EFFORTS, I GUESS IF YOU WILL, THAT REMAIN THAT DEMOLITION. 
          I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ONES THAT WE HAVE SAW THAT HAVE MISSING ROOFS, STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , IF YOU'RE GONNA BOARD UP A DOOR AND A WINDOW ON A STRUCTURE THAT'S BURNED LIKE THAT, THEN WHY DON'T YOU JUST TAKE THE INITIATIVE ALSO TO MAYBE TWO, TWO BRACES OR FOUR BRACES, JUST THE, TO PULL IT. 
          YEAH. 
          LIKE THROW SOME X BRAC IN THERE. 
          I I, I, I JUST WHAT YOU'RE SAYING SOMETHING THIS, SO, SO WE TOOK THE INITIATIVE MM-HMM. 
           INSTEAD OF ALLOWING IT TO FALL. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF WE NECESSARILY WANT TO DIVE INTO THAT JUST YET. 
          I, I, I, I MEAN, I'LL TAKE THAT CONVERSATION BACK AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH MR. TOMAS AND MIKE SHANNON ABOUT THAT. 
          UH, WHETHER WE WANNA DIVE INTO BRACING OR, I MEAN, I KNOW THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TEMPORARILY BRACES SOME STRUCTURES IN THE EVENT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A TWO STORY BUILDING WHERE LET'S SAY YOU HIT THE CORNER OF YOUR GARAGE, THEY'LL, THEY HAVE A SPECIAL TEAM THAT GOES OUT THERE. 
          UH, WE'RE NOT EQUIPPED TO DO THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE DON'T HAVE, UM, TEAM MEMBERS, IF YOU WILL, CONTRACTORS THAT DO THAT TYPE OF BRACING, UH, OR IMPROVEMENTS RATHER OUR, OUR CONTRACTORS ARE GEARED UP MORE TO CUTTING, CLEAN, SECURE, RIGHT. 
          OR JUST TO DEMOLISH, I'M LOOKING AT A MORE SOLUTION TO EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME REASON WHY THAT WALL IS BRACED OR WHY IT'S STILL STANDING THERE WHEN THE OTHERS WERE TORN DOWN. 
          YEAH, NO, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. 
          I GET WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. 
          I, THAT'S WHAT I'M, WE'LL WAIT, WE'LL WAIT FOR YOU TO COME BACK WITH AN ANSWER FOR THAT QUESTION. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND JUST, AND AGAIN, JUST TO CLOSE IT BEFORE I MOVE ON, WE DO WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS DURING THE PROCESS IF THERE IS AN OWNER AVAILABLE, WHEN CERTAINLY THEY DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE TIME IF THEY NECESSARY TO HIRE AN ENGINEER TO BRACE IT, IF, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THEY RECOMMEND. 
          SO THOSE ARE OPTIONS THAT THE OWNER HAS, UM, THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO AGAIN, THANK YOU GUYS. 
          IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, UM, I WILL BE UP HERE FOR TWO MORE PRESENTATIONS OR TWO MORE REPORTS. 
          SO, UH, IF THERE'S NONE, NONE OTHER ON THE EMERGENCY, I'LL CLOSE THAT OUT AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THIS ONE SHOULD BE FAIRLY EASY, RATHER. 
          WELL, LET'S NOT, UH, THERE WE GO. 
          UH, THE BOARD'S ACTIONS AND BOARD'S ORDERS THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR. 
          UM, SO YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THIS REPORT BEFORE. 
          IT'S, IT'S THE SAME REPORT. 
          WE JUST KIND OF PLUG IN THE NUMBERS FOR THIS PAST YEAR, RIGHT? SO THIS PAST YEAR, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A TOTAL OF 24 MEETINGS, UH, FOR FY 21. 
          UH, THAT'S A BREAKDOWN OF PANEL A MEETING 10 TIMES PANEL B, MEETING 12, TWO FULL, FULL BOARD MEETINGS. 
          UH, THERE WAS TWO MEETINGS THAT WERE CANCELED FOR PANEL A, UH, ONE BACK IN MARCH DUE TO THE WINTER STORM AND ONE IN SEPTEMBER DUE TO SOME IT ISSUES THAT WE HAD WITH SOME FIBERS BEING, UM, UH, I GUESS FIBER, I GUESS CONNECTIVITY ISSUES RIGHT IN THE BUILDING ARE CLOSE BY. 
          RIGHT? SO, UM, 
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BUT NEVERTHELESS, I'M GONNA KIND OF GO OVER JUST GENERALLY THE, THE SUMMARY OF THE, UH, THE ACTIONS TAKEN. 
          UH, SO FOR DANGEROUS STRUCTURES, UM, YOU LOOK AT THE VERY TOP PAGE, UM, ACROSS THE COLUMNS THERE, UH, YOU HAVE THE ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE BOARD, UH, BY PANEL A AND PANEL B. 
          COLLECTIVELY, IT'S BEEN A HUNDRED ACTIONS TAKEN, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE ORDERS FOR 30 DAYS DEMOLITION WITHOUT A PERMIT, RIGHT? WHICH 76 ACTIONS THAT WERE INDICATED, UH, ON THE REPORT. 
          UM, AND WE SCROLL DOWN TO THE P M C, UM, WHICH IS  PROPERTY MAINTENANCE. 
          UM, PANEL A LIKES TO ISSUE PENALTIES. 
          , YOU CAN SEE IN THE REPORT, RIGHT? IT'S, UH, IN COMPARISON TO PANEL B, UH, REPAIR ORDERS WITH PENALTIES, THERE WAS 18 COMPARED TO ONE. 
          AND THEN, UM, PANEL B, UH, REPAIR ORDERS WITHOUT PENALTIES. 
          YOU CAN SEE SIX COMPARED TO 36. 
          UM, COLLECTIVELY THERE WERE 64 ACTIONS THAT WERE TAKEN, UH, THAT INCLUDES THE ITEMS THAT WERE PULLED FROM THE AGENDA SUMMARY ABATEMENT. 
          AGAIN, THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SUMMARILY ABATE A PROPERTY, THE OWNER HAS THE RIGHT TO AN APPEAL BEFORE THE BOARD. 
          UM, TWO ACTIONS WERE TAKEN THIS PAST FISCAL YEAR AND IT CLOSE IT OUT. 
          ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS. UM, GOING BACK TO THE EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, THERE IS 37, READ INTO THE RECORD, EIGHT HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENTS READ INTO THE RECORD AND, UM, EIGHT RESET ORDERS. 
          UM, SO COLLECTIVELY IT'S 219 ACTIONS THAT WERE TAKEN THIS PAST YEAR BY BOTH PANEL A AND PANEL B AND THE FULL BOARD. 
          SO, UM, AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UH, WE TALKED EARLIER IN THE MEETING IN THERE, SOME OF THE ACTIONS THAT THE COURTS HAVE PUT OFF, THEY'RE NOT REFLECTED IN THIS YET. 
          RIGHT? UH, THESE ARE ALL ORDERS THAT, THAT HAVE, THAT HAVE BEEN DONE HERE, CORRECT? YES, SIR. 
          SO IF IT'S, IF THEY'RE SUING FOR THE 30 DAY THING, IF THEY, THAT'S NOT INFLICTED IN THERE, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE INCLUDED IN HERE BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY COME BEFORE THE BOARD. 
          YOU GUYS MADE AN ORDER AND NOW OUTSIDE OF THE ORDER, NOW YOU'RE JUST WAITING FOR THE DISPOSITION. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SO THE, THAT WON'T CHANGE THE NUMBERS LATER DOWN THE ROAD. 
          NO, SIR. 
          IT WOULD STILL BE INCLUDED IN HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN THE LAST REPORT I HAVE IS GONNA BE THE, UM, THE NUMBER OF CASES, UM, BY CITY COUNCIL OR BY COUNCIL DISTRICT, RATHER, PROACTIVE VERSUS REACTIVE CASES. 
          AGAIN, FOR THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR. 
          UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, WE START OFF WITH THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS ON THE FAR LEFT AND ON THE TOP COLUMN YOU HAVE DP CASES, SS A P M C CASES, ABATEMENTS, EMERGENCY DEMOLITION HOLD, HARMLESS AGREEMENTS. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE 46 DP CASES IN DISTRICT FIVE. 
          UM, AND I'M JUST GONNA KIND OF READ OFF THE, THE HIGH NUMBERS. 
          SO IF YOU WILL, 21:00 PM C CASES IN DISTRICT ONE, UH, TWO APPEALS IN DISTRICT TWO, I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, DISTRICT FIVE 11 EMERGENCY IN DISTRICT TWO. 
          UM, AND, AND JUST COLLECTIVELY, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO THE 219 CASES OR 219 ACTIONS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IS KIND OF A BREAKDOWN ON, ON THOSE CASES. 
          UH, 96% OF OUR, OUR CASES THAT ARE BROUGHT FORWARD ARE, ARE, ARE PROACTIVE CASES. 
          UH, AND YOU CAN SEE THE, THE BREAKDOWN, UH, PER COUNCIL DISTRICT, UM, IN COMPARISON TO THE OTHER DISTRICTS AS WELL. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT DISTRICT SEVEN, UM, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THEIR CASES WERE PROACTIVE. 
          WE, YOU BRING IN 17 CASES FORWARD OR 17 ACTIONS FORWARD IN COMPARISON TO DISTRICT ONE, WHERE NINE 3% OF OUR CASELOAD WAS PROACTIVE, BUT THEY BROUGHT 43 CASES AS WELL. 
          SO AGAIN, THAT'S A SUMMARY OF THIS PAST FISCAL YEAR. 
          UH, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE, ANY QUESTIONS I GOT? YES, SIR. 
          LET ME ASK IT. 
          DISTRICT NINE HAS ZERO, DISTRICT NINE HAS ZERO. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          NEWER, SO YEAH. 
          YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S FURTHER NORTH, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, IT'S, UH, LIKE MS. BROWN MENTIONED, IT'S A FAIRLY NEWER AREA. 
          UM, THERE AREN'T MANY CASES THAT WE STUMBLE ACROSS UP THERE THAT THAT WARRANT NECESSARILY ACTIONED BY THE BOARD. 
          UM, IF THERE ARE ANY, TYPICALLY THEY COME INTO COMPLIANCE BEFORE ACTUALLY COMING TO THE BOARD. 
          THERE CASES, THEY JUST MAY BE DISPOSITIONED, THEY MAY BE DIS RESOLVED BEFORE COMING INTO COMPLY COMPLIANCE BEFORE, UH, ANY ACTION HAS TO BE TAKEN BY THE BOARD. 
          OKAY. 
          YES SIR. 
          YEAH, AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST CASES THAT YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD WITHIN THE LAST FISCAL YEAR. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          APPRECIATE YOUR TIME GUYS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO, YOU AND YOUR TEAM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GREAT. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON BOARD MEMBERS. 
          WE'RE HITTING THE 12 O'CLOCK HOUR . 
          THAT'S, SO I WANTED TO GET THAT RIGHT AND I WILL BE ROUNDING OUT THE REST OF, UH, JUST THE BRIEF PRESENTATIONS. 
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I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THESE VERY QUICKLY. 
          UH, MY NAME IS JENNY RAMIREZ. 
          I'M A CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER. 
          JUST GONNA BE COVERING OUR FUTURE MEETING DATES THAT WE HAVE, UM, SCHEDULED. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT, I GUESS WE COULD PROBABLY SAY THE FIRST HALF ALREADY SCHEDULED OUT WITH, UH, WITH CASES MOVING FORWARD. 
          SO JUST AS DANNY HAD PRESENTED EARLIER ABOUT CASES ARE BEING EXPEDITED, WE ALWAYS TRY TO LOOK TO BALANCE, NOT KEEP YOU GUYS HERE TILL MIDNIGHT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO WE TRY TO KEEP THAT BALANCE FROM OUR BOARD MEMBERS AND HAVING OUR, OUR PRESENTATIONS. 
          JUDY DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB OF THAT. 
          BUT THIS JUST SHOWS YOU THE DATES THAT WE DO HAVE PRESENTING FORWARD, UM, JUST TO KEEP ON EVERYBODY'S SCHEDULE AND EVERYBODY, UM, ON TRACK. 
          SO THAT WE'RE ALL TRYING TO DO, WE TRY NOT TO ADD OR DEVIATE FROM THE SCHEDULE. 
          THERE ARE SOME TIMES THAT THAT DOES HAVE TO OCCUR, BUT, UH, FOR THE MOST PART, JUDY AND ESTHER DO AN AMAZING JOB OF KEEPING US ALL ON TRACK AND, AND GETTING THE CASES MOVING FORWARD, KEEPING A GOOD BALANCE OF THE TIME SO THEIR TIME IS WELL SPENT THAT WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS THAT PERCENTAGE OF CASES THAT DO COME INTO PER, UM, COMPLIANCE BEFORE A HEARING. 
          SO WE ALWAYS WANNA MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE TOO FEW THAT COUNSEL OUT OR TOO MANY THAT'LL KEEP US HERE ALL DAY AND ALL NIGHT. 
          SO THAT IS, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE DATES AND WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SETUPS AND AGENDAS AND SCHEDULING. 
          UM, THERE'S A LOT OF, JUST AS MR. ANDS HAD MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO WHEN A CASE IS FINALLY PRESENTED AT THE BOARD, NOT ONLY THE INVESTIGATION BY THE OFFICERS, BUT BY OUR ADMIN STAFF WHO IS THEIR SOLE JOB IS THE B S B UM, CASE PRESENTATION. 
          THEY ENSURE THAT WE HAVE TITLE SEARCHES DONE, THAT THOSE ARE DONE BY AN OUTSIDE COMPANY AS WELL AS INTERNALLY REVIEWED BY OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT. 
          THEY ENSURE THAT ALL OF THE PAPERWORK AND ALL THE STEPS AND CHECKS HAVE BEEN MET AND ALL THE DEADLINES HAVE BEEN MET. 
          ON ALL THOSE CASES. 
          I CAN BEGIN TO TELL YOU ALL THE DIFFERENT DATES AND DEADLINES THAT WE HAVE. 
          THEY COULD IN THEIR SLEEP, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE RELY ON BETWEEN OUR ADMIN STAFF AND OUR LEGAL TEAM TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE MET ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL OF OUR LEGAL REQUIREMENTS SO THAT THE OWNERS WHO ARE COMING BEFORE THE BOARD AND FOR THE BEFORE THE HEARINGS CAN ENSURE THAT WE'VE MET ALL THOSE STEPS BEFORE WE BRING THEM TO THE BOARD AND ANSWER TO MAKING THEIR PROMISES OR MAKING THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, FOR WHAT, WHAT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ON THEIR CASES. 
          OKAY. 
          NEXT PIECE IS JUST A OVERVIEW OF THE ATTENDANCE FOR OUR B S B MEMBERS. 
          WE HAVE HAD SOME REALLY GREAT ATTENDANCE, AND THAT HAS BEEN A, AN AMAZING DEAL EVEN THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR THAT DID COVER, UM, STILL PARTS OF THE PANDEMIC. 
          WE WERE DOING WEBEX AND WE CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR YOUR FLEXIBILITY AND THOSE CHALLENGES AND OVERCOMING THOSE CHALLENGES. 
          UM, DOING OUR WEBEX, DOING OUR INTERNET, DOING OUR IN-PERSON, NOW THAT WE'VE MOVED BACK TO OUR IN-PERSON MEETINGS, UM, THAT HAS BEEN A GREAT, UM, PIVOT THAT WE'VE ALL LEARNED THAT WORD OF PIVOTING AND ADJUSTING AND BEING AS FLEXIBLE AS POSSIBLE, BUT THAT HAS ALLOWED THESE CASES TO STILL CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD AND TO GET RESOLUTION, UM, FOR THE NEIGHBORS, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND, AND DEFINITELY FOR THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE. 
          I THINK THAT'S THE LAST ONE I HAVE. 
          OH, ONE MORE. 
          THIS IS A CURRENT LAYOUT OF OUR PANEL A AND OUR PANEL B. 
          UM, WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF VACANCIES JUST WHEN WE DO GET OUR FILLINGS. 
          UM, WE DO HAVE A FEW DROP OFF. 
          SO WE DO HAVE ONE AT LARGE POSITION, ONE IN COUNCIL DISTRICT FOUR, ONE FROM COUNCIL DISTRICT A AND ONE FROM COUNCIL DISTRICT SEVEN, IS THAT CORRECT? JUDY? N OH N 10. 
          I MISSED THE 10. 
          SO RIGHT NOW WE DO HAVE, UH, FIVE VACANCIES, UM, THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH. 
          WE'VE HAD APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE COME IN, I BELIEVE, THAT ARE UNDER REVIEW STILL. 
          THEY HAVE NOT QUITE BEEN FINALIZED. 
          SO WE ARE WORKING THROUGH WITH THE COUNCIL STAFF, WITH OUR LEGAL STAFF TO GET THOSE, UM, APPOINTED, UH, AND MOVED FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO KEEP OUR CASES MOVING FORWARD AS WELL. 
          THAT DOES COMPLETE MY PRESENTATIONS AND JUST REVIEW OF, UH, OF SOME OF THE, UH, MEETING UPDATES. 
          UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, I HAVE A COMMENT. 
          I JUST WANTED TO CONGRATULATE YOU AND YOUR TEAM. 
          ALSO, I THINK THIS BOARD HAS THE MOST EFFICIENT WORKING STAFF OF ANY BOARD . 
          I REALLY DO BECAUSE I'VE, I'VE BEEN TO SEVERAL BOARD MEETINGS AND, UH, H D R C IS ATROCIOUS. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY. 
          , THEY HAVE SO MANY CASES. 
          OH MY GOD. 
          YOU KNOW, AND WELL, THEY DON'T HAVE JUDY AND ESTHER, AND THAT'S WHO WE WILL NOT LET THEM GO . 
          BUT, UM, THAT'S EXACTLY, THAT IS AN ABSOLUTE, THAT IS AN ABSOLUTE, UM, THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION, THROUGH THE UPDATES, AGAIN, THROUGH THE WEBEXES. 
          I I CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO TELL YOU THE, THE WIRES AND WHERE THESE 
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WIRES ENDED UP AND HOW WE MAKE SURE THAT IT ALL COMES TOGETHER. 
          IT'S A, IT'S THAT OLD SAYING OF, IT'S A SPORTS SAYING, DUCKS ON A POND, SO EVERYTHING'S NICE AND CALM ON TOP, BUT ALL THAT CHAOS UNDERNEATH THE WATER, NOBODY NEEDS TO SEE HOW THAT, HOW THAT OCCURS. 
          AND THEY MAKE IT LOOK EASY. 
          IT IS NOT EASY. 
          UH, BUT THEY, THEY DO A GOOD JOB OF MAKING IT LOOK EASY AND KEEPING US ALL ON TRACK, MYSELF INCLUDED. 
          SO, THANK YOU. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          I THINK ALL OF YOU'RE DO A GOOD JOB OF MAKING IT LOOK EASY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT COMPLETES IT. 
          I BELIEVE WE ARE NOW OPEN TO B SS B GUIDELINES, POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. 
          SO I WILL STEP BACK AND, AND, UH, AWAIT ANY OTHER CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS UNLESS WE HAVE SOMETHING ELSE. 
          YEP. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          OH YES, APOLOGIES. 
          ERIC DOES HAVE, UM, ONE, UH, LAST UPDATE I PUT, I APOLOGIZE BEFORE WE MOVE ON. 
          UH, ONE LAST STAFF UPDATE, . 
          I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND TALK TO YOU GUYS FROM HERE. 
          UM, WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS JUST MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THERE WAS A FEW QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO S A P M C ORDERS, UM, THE RAMIFICATIONS OF WHAT HAPPENS IF THOSE S A P M C ORDERS ARE NOT, UM, UH, FOLLOWED. 
          SO I AM HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYBODY MIGHT HAVE. 
          WELL, I'LL GO FIRST. 
          I ALWAYS HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, THE, UH, PROPERTIES WHERE THE PROPERTY OWNERS CANNOT BE REACHED OR THEY'RE DECEASED AND, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT A WILL. 
          UM, AND WE ORDER, UH, Y'ALL BRING A PROPERTY TO US AND FOR REPAIR AND THERE'S NOBODY THERE TO REPAIR IT. 
          I MEAN, TO ME THAT'S KIND OF LIKE, UM, UH, WELL, I MEAN, WHO'S GONNA FIX IT IF WE GIVE THE ORDER TO REPAIR? WELL, IN REGARDS TO THOSE SS A P M C CASES, UM, ALL B SS B ORDERS ARE GONNA RUN WITH THE LAND. 
          NOW, UM, SOMEBODY OWNS THE LAND IT, THAT, THAT PROPERTY, UH, AND THAT STRUCTURE IS NOT TO THE POINT WHERE IT IS CONSIDERED A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE, BUT THERE ARE SOME TYPES OF VIOLATIONS THAT ARE ON THE, UH, THAT ARE ON THE PREMISES. 
          UH, SO WE CODE CAN'T JUST IGNORE. 
          SO WHAT CODE DOES IS ISSUE CITATIONS, UM, TRY TO GET SOMEONE TO, UH, FIX THE PROPERTY, FIND IF THERE'S SOMEBODY IN CONTROL OF THE PROPERTY AND ADDRESS IT TO THEM. 
          IF NOT, THEY BRING IT TO, UH, THE BOARD. 
          UM, AND THOSE VIOLATIONS, BECAUSE THEY S BECOME SS A P M C VIOLATIONS IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD. 
          UM, THE REPAIR ORDER THAT THIS BOARD PROVIDES ALLOWS, UH, UH, THE CODE OFFICERS TO CONTINUE TRYING TO GET COMPLIANCE, TRYING TO GET THE ABATEMENT, WHETHER THEY ARE ABLE TO FILE IT AS A, UH, CRIMINAL CASE. 
          UM, THEY'LL DO THAT. 
          THEY'LL TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE CASES THROUGH, UH, THE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING PROCESS. 
          UM, BUT I, I, I, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN GIVE YOU A SATISFACTORY ANSWER AS TO WHAT SHOULD WE DO WITH THE PROPERTY IF WE CAN'T FIND THE, UH, THE OWNER. 
          THEY'RE NOT PROPERTIES THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED ANYTHING OTHER THAN JUST THOSE ABATEMENT OR THOSE REPAIRS. 
          UH, MADAME CHAIR, I JUST WANNA STEP IN REAL QUICK ON, UH, TO ADD TO THAT, UH, THE SAMHSA, UH, PROPERTIES THAT ARE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU, UH, HOW THEY DIFFER FROM THE DP CASES WHERE OBVIOUSLY IF, UH, UM, NO ONE'S THERE ON A DP CASE, YOU CAN'T REPAIR, YOU CAN'T ISSUE A REPAIR ORDER. 
          SAMHSA CASES ARE, UH, LOWERED DOWN ON THE SPECTRUM IN TERMS OF THAT IMMEDIATE THREAD TO LIFE AND SAFETY. 
          AND SO CODE WILL ASK FOR REPAIR ORDERS ON THOSE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO USE THIS BOARD'S AUTHORITY TO REQUIRE ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE IF THE OWNER IS DECEASED OR NOT PRESENT, MEANING, UH, FAMILY MEMBERS OR IF THEY'RE GOING THROUGH A PROBATE PROCESS OR GETTING THE BANK INVOLVED OR A PROPERTY MANAGER. 
          AND THEN THE ISSUES, UH, I MEAN THE ORDERS, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE ISSUED WHEN, UH, SOMEBODY'S NOT PRESENT, BUT THAT REPAIR ORDER HAS BEEN ISSUED, IF IT'S A TYPE OF VIOLATION THAT WARRANTS IT, THE CITY CAN GO IN AND ADDRESS IT. 
          SAY IT'S A SEWAGE LEAK, THEN WE, WE NEED AUTHORITY TO ADDRESS. 
          IT GOES BACK TO, UM, WHAT I'VE BROUGHT UP IN THE PAST. 
          UH, WE NEED AUTHORITY TO, UM, GIVE JUSTIFICATION FOR USING, UH, PUBLIC FUNDS FOR A PRIVATE GAIN. 
          AND THEN, 
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UH, IF THE PROBLEMS CONTINUE, IT SETS THE RECORD TO WHERE THEN CONSIDERATION MAY BE GIVEN. 
          SHOULD THIS START BEING TREATED AS A, A DP AFTER ALL EFFORTS TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS, HAVE, UH, NOT BEEN COMPLIED WITH? WELL, OKAY, LET ME ASK ON THAT QUESTION. 
          A PUBLIC FUND CANNOT BE USED FOR PRIVATE GAIN, CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          THERE HAS TO BE A PUBLIC POLICY IN PLACE TO WARRANT OVERRIDING THAT PROHIBITION. 
          SO YOUR PUBLIC POLICY IN THE PLACE OF, OF MAINTENANCE PROPERTY, SO YOU GO IN AND CUT THE PROPERTY, DOES THAT NOT BENEFIT THE PERSON WHO HAD THE PROPERTY, BUT YOU'RE CHARGING THEM? CORRECT, YES. 
          IN THOSE INSTANCES, LIKE WITH THE CUTTING THE GRASS OR REMOVING OUTSIDE PLACEMENT, IN THOSE INSTANCES, WE HAVE STATUTORY AUTHORITY. 
          SO THE LEGISLATURE HAS OVERRIDDEN THAT PROHIBITION IN THAT PARTICULAR INSTANCE. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, WITH, UH, SOME OF THE SAMHSA VIOLATIONS, WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY FROM THE LEGISLATURE. 
          AND SO IT'S JUST, IT'S A FINE LINE THAT NEEDS TO BE WALKED AND, EXCUSE ME, AND, UH, MY STEPS THAT NEED TO BE FOLLOWED IN ORDER TO GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO GO WITHOUT, UH, VIOLATING THE PROHIBITION. 
          SO THAT WOULD ALSO MEAN YOU COULDN'T USE A ABATEMENT FOR SUCH A CASE, RIGHT? 'CAUSE THAT'S THAT FINE LINE WITHOUT EXPRESS, UH, LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY. 
          CORRECT. 
          BUT, UH, THE PURPOSE, UH, BEHIND GETTING THAT REPAIR ORDER ON A SAMHSA CASE IS THIS BOARD HAS THE AUTHORITY TO SAY, YES, WE FIND IT TO BE A PUBLIC NUISANCE THAT DOES POSE A THREAT TO THE LIFE SAFETY, HEALTH OR WELFARE. 
          THEREFORE, WE ARE ORDERING THIS. 
          AND BY STATUTE, ANY ORDER ISSUED BY THIS BOARD PROVIDES AUTHORITY FOR THE CITY TO COME AFTER AND TAKE ABATEMENT MEASURES AS NECESSARY. 
          UH, THEY JUST CAN'T, UH, DO IT ON THEIR OWN. 
          SO IT HAS TO BE REMEDIED BY THE COURT, THE BOARD, YES. 
          IF THERE'S NO SPECIFIC STAT ENABLING STATUTE, WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM AN ABATEMENT ON A PROPERTY, THE COMPLIANCE CAN GIVE YOU YOUR 10 DAY NOTICE AND YOU FAILED, AND THEN THEY CAN APPLY THAT. 
          SO THIS BOARD HAS TO ORDER IT, IT JUST CAN'T BE A CO COMPLIANCE VIOLATION IN THAT FACT OF A 10 DAY RULE. 
          EXACTLY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I, I'M NOT, I, I DON'T KNOW IF I, I'M FOLLOWING YOU. 
          I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT WHEN THERE IS NO HEIR, THE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY IS DECEASED, UM, YOU CAN'T FIND AN HEIR OR YOU CAN'T FIND SOMEBODY TO TAKE OVER THE PROPERTY, BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE THE ORDER FOR REPAIR, UH, AGAIN, WHO'S PAYING FOR IT? I MEAN, OTHER THAN THE CITY ON AN ABATEMENT, THE, UH, COULD, COULD, I'M, I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD NOW, COULD THIS PROPERTY BE TURNED INTO A LOW INCOME HOUSING AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE ORDER THE REPAIR AND IF YOU ALL GO IN AND DO THE REPAIR FOR MINIMUM AMOUNT OF MONEY AS OPPOSED TO IT COMING BACK TO US EVENTUALLY AS A, UM, AS A DEMOLITION CASE, COULDN'T IT BE REPAIRED BY, I DON'T KNOW, THE CITY OR THE COUNTY OR WHOEVER AS, AS SOME KIND OF LOW INCOME HOUSING? WE DON'T HAVE ANY STOCK FOR LOW INCOME PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I, I HATE TO SEE PROPERTIES DESTROYED WHEN IT COULD BE USED FOR LOW INCOME. 
          SO I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD RIGHT NOW 'CAUSE I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT. 
          BUT YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY WITH, UH, IN ORDER FOR THE CITY TO TAKE OVER OWNERSHIP TO BE ABLE TO TURN INTO, UH, SOME OTHER USE FOR THE PROPERTY, UH, AS A GOVERNMENT ENTITY, UH, WE'RE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH A CONDEMNATION PROCEEDING, UH, TO OBTAIN OWNERSHIP. 
          AND EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW A PROPERTY IS ABANDONED, OR, UH, ALL EFFORTS AT IDENTIFYING ANYONE HAVE FAILED, UH, WE STILL, BECAUSE WE ARE 
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A GOVERNMENT ENTITY, WE STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE LEGAL PROCESS OF A CONDEMNATION PROCEEDING TO OBTAIN OWNERSHIP, TO CHANGE THE USE OF A PROPERTY. 
          SO LET ME, LET ME ASK YOU THIS, SINCE YOU SAID THAT THE COUNTY OWNS PROPERTY THAT THEY DON'T EVEN TAKE CARE OF. 
          I MEAN, WE WERE OUT ABOUT TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO CUTTING A, A LOT AND TRIMMING THE, THE WEEDS FROM IT. 
          AND IT'S A COUNTY, IT'S A COUNTY PROPERTY, AND THEY OWN LIKE 27 OTHER LOTS, JUST VACANT LOTS. 
          AND, UH, AND THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T MAINTAIN THAT. 
          SO WE WERE GOING TO TAKE IT OVER AS A LITTLE PARK . 
          EXCUSE ME, I'LL, YEAH, I'LL LIMIT MY ANSWER AS FAR AS, UH, WELL WE, THE COUNTY, BUT, UH, YEAH. 
          COUNTY HAS, UH, OBTAINED OWNERSHIP THROUGH, UH, PRIMARILY TAX FLOW FORECLOSURES, AND THEY CAN CHOOSE TO DO WHAT, UH, WITH THE PROPERTY, WHAT THEY WISH. 
          UH, WHEREAS WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME PROCESS. 
          'CAUSE WE DO NOT FORECLOSE ON CODE LIENS AND, UH, BY STATE LAW, UH, WE CANNOT FORECLOSE ON CODE LANES. 
          WE HA THERE HAS TO BE, UH, ARREARS AND TAXES. 
          SO YES, THE COUNTY DOES OWN A LOT OF PROPERTIES AND UH, THEY DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO, UH, BE CREATIVE WITH IT. 
          UH, BUT I JUST CAN'T ANSWER WHY THEY HAVE CHOSEN NOT TO. 
          WELL, IT DOESN'T ALSO IN AN ABATEMENT, THE CITY HAS A RIGHT, JUST LIKE AS THE CONTRACTOR HAVE THE RIGHT TO PUT A MECHANIC'S LIEN, SO THEY END UP HA HAVING TO PAY IT ON THE TAX OR THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          YES. 
          ALL, UH, ABATEMENT, ACTIONS UNDERTAKEN BARCODE, UH, A LIEN IS FILED IF THE INVOICE ISN'T PAID. 
          BUT, UH, UNLIKE THE COUNTY, WE DO NOT HAVE, UH, THE ABILITY TO FORECLOSE. 
          UH, THERE HAS TO BE, UH, TAXES AND ARREARS, AND THEN ONLY, UH, THE STATE CAN FORECLOSE. 
          WE CANNOT, UH, THE BEST WE HOPE FOR IS TO, UH, GET SOME OF THE PROCEEDS TO GO TOWARDS THE COST OF THE MONEY WE SPEND. 
          AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECT, FOR THE RECORD, I THINK WE, I KNOW OF ONE CASE WE HAD WITH THE CITY ACTUALLY SUED THE COUNTY HERE FOR CLEANING THE PROPERTY. 
          I REMEMBER THAT CASE. 
          AND WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE GOVERNMENT CAN'T WORK IT OUT, BUT IT DOES HAPPEN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS TODAY? YOU ALL DON'T WANNA SAY ANYTHING? ? OKAY. 
          UH, DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION WITH, UH, THE PANEL, UH, QUESTION? WHY NOT? IF THERE'S A NEW BOARD MEMBER SWITCH, WHO WILL BE PANEL A AND WHO WILL BE PANEL B BOARD CHAIRS. 
          DIDN'T WE, DIDN'T WE FIGURE THAT OUT ON NO, NO. 
          YOU PICKED THE CHAIRS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BUT YOU GOTTA PICK, LISTEN, LISTEN TO ME BOARD, LISTEN TO ME. 
          DIDN'T WE, DIDN'T WE FIGURE THAT OUT ABOUT TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO? UM, NO. 
          WITH TODAY'S CURRENT NOMINATION OF MS. GUILLORY AS BEING THE B, S, B CHAIR, RIGHT? BOTH YOU AND MS. GUILLORY SIT ON PANEL B. 
          SO ONE OF, UM, YOU ALL WILL HAVE TO MOVE OVER TO PANEL A, RIGHT? SO THAT YOU CAN CHAIR THAT PANEL. 
          OKAY? UM, ALSO SOMEONE FROM PANEL A WILL NEED TO SWITCH OVER TO PANEL B SO WE CAN HAVE ENOUGH MEMBERS ON PANEL B. 
          OKAY? SO DO WE NEED TO DO THAT TODAY? WE CAN DO THAT TODAY IF YOU LIKE. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          OKAY, SO I'M, WHAT AM I, I'M ON PANEL B. 
          OKAY. 
          SO DO YOU WANT ME TO YOU CHOOSE PANEL? SHE GOES TO THE OTHER WAY? YEAH. 
          SO YOU GONNA BE CHAIR OF THE WHOLE BOARD AND UH, I'LL BE VICE CHAIR OF THE WHOLE BOARD. 
          BUT THEN WE NEED TO SWITCH FROM A TO B, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          SO EITHER MS. BROWN OR MS. GUILLORY, UM, WE'RE BOTH ON PANEL B, SO SOMEONE WILL NEED TO, UM, SWITCH OVER TO PANEL A. 
          I'LL, I'LL SWITCH OVER TO PANEL A IF YOU WANT ME TO. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN MR. HARPER OR MR. TAPIA, UM, WOULD EITHER ONE OF YOU LIKE TO SWITCH TO PANEL B? IF NOT, I CAN CHECK WITH MR. ZUNIGA AND MR. NELSON. 
          I'M, I'M FINE ON WHICHEVER PANEL. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE'LL MAKE THE SWITCH TO PANEL B. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          QUICK THAT WAS DONE. 
          NO, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          WE NEED TO WORK IT OUT DOWN BEFORE EVERYBODY . 
          OKAY. 
          IS THERE ANY OTHER, UH, BUSINESS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF? JUST TELL ME WHEN THE NEXT MEETING IS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU ALL FOR A GREAT YEAR. 
          EVERYBODY'S DONE A SUPER JOB, AS YOU OUGHT CONTINUE TO DO FROM YEAR TO YEAR AND WE APPRECIATE IT, CHAIRMAN, CHAIR. 
          SO WITHOUT, UH, ANYTHING ELSE, I, THIS BOARD IS ADJOURNED. 
          WHAT'D YOU? THANK YOU. 
          FOUR PEOPLE IN. 
          YEAH, I KNOW.
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