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ALRIGHT, GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
UH, IF WE HAVE THE SPAN SPANISH INTERPRETATION SERVICES PRESENT, IF YOU ALL WOULD COME UP AND PLEASE GIVE YOUR STATEMENT.
THIS ANNOUNCEMENT IS TO INFORM YOU THAT WE DO HAVE SPANISH INTERPRETATION SERVICES AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE NEEDING OF THESE SERVICES.
IF YOU CAN, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO, UM, APPROACH THE CABIN WITH THE RED CURTAINS AND WE'LL BE MORE THAN GLAD TO ASSIST YOU.
UH, BEFORE WE BEGIN AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH C D C RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL AS THE SAFETY OF ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS, UM, AND IN LIGHT OF THE TREMENDOUS NUMBER OF CASES WE'VE HAD WITH OMICRON, UH, WE STRONGLY ENCOURAGE ALL ATTENDEES TO WEAR A MASK.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE A MASK BUT YOU WANT ONE, THEY ARE AVAILABLE RIGHT THERE ON THAT TABLE.
UM, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
MY NAME IS JOHN BUSTAMANTE AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT FIVE ZONING COMMISSIONER.
I HEREBY COLE THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION END SESSION AND IT IS 1 0 7.
UM, I'D LIKE TO DO ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT.
MARK ROS, UH, DISTRICT NINE, MARK WHITE, DISTRICT 10.
AL ORTIZ, DISTRICT EIGHT, TAYLOR WATSON, DISTRICT TWO, CHARLES FUENTES, DISTRICT THREE, SUMMER GRADE HOUSE DISTRICT ONE.
UH, SHARON KAMATH, DISTRICT FOUR, KEN HUE, DISTRICT SIX.
AND COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL TAYLOR MCDANIEL, COMMISSIONER FOR MAYOR.
ALRIGHT, STAFF IS A QUORUM PRESENT.
UH, WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ALRIGHT, BEFORE WE BEGIN, UM, OUR HEARING IF STAFF WOULD PLEASE REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THOSE IN ATTENDANCE STAFF IF YOU WOULD, BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE MAKE SURE TO TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF.
THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION, YOU HAVE SIX, SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER.
STAFF WILL PRESENT EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST.
PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN THE 200 FEET OF OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN EX INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION.
FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION IN ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THE REQUEST FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING.
YOU WILL BE CALLED AN ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION.
WE WILL INFORM YOU WHEN YOUR YOUR TIME IS UP.
FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES.
AND THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED INTO SPEAK.
THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS.
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THE CASES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON TODAY'S AGENDA, IF WE COULD REVIEW THOSE CASES THAT ARE, ARE POSTPONED OR WITHDRAWN PLEASE? YES SIR.I'LL COVER THE POSTPONED ITEMS FIRST.
THOSE, THESE ARE ITEMS NUMBER ONE THAT END IN ZONING CASE FIVE SIX LOCATED AT FOUR 19 AND 4 25 SAN PEDRO AVENUE.
ITEM NUMBER TWO IS ALSO POSTPONED.
IT ENDS IN 3 3 4 LOCATED IN THE 10,000 BLOCK OF STATE HIGHWAY 1 51.
ITEM NUMBER THREE ENDING IN 3 3 6 AT EIGHT 40 SOUTHWEST 36TH STREET.
AND NUMBER NINE IS ALSO POSTPONED.
IT ENDS IN 2 5 3 GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 5,400 BLOCK OF ROGERS ROAD.
THESE ITEMS WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED AT ALL TODAY.
UH, WHEN THEY ARE READY TO RES RESUME THEIR APPLICATION, YOU WILL
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RECEIVE NEW NOTICE AND THESE ITEMS WILL BE READVERTISED AND WILL COME BACK TO THE ZONING COMMISSION.ITEM NUMBER 11 IS COMPLETELY WITHDRAWN.
THAT MEANS THIS CASE HAS ENDED ITS CYCLE AND IT WILL NOT RETURN UNLESS A NEW APPLICATION IS MADE.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH AND AGAIN, IF YOU ARE PRESENT FOR ANY OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WE JUST COVERED, YOU CAN LEAVE.
WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU STAY BUT YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING BETTER TO DO.
STAFF, IF WE COULD, COULD WE GO ON AND GO OVER OUR COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE ITEMS? THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR CONSENT.
ITEM NUMBER 13, ENDING IN 1 2 9 OFF OF 13 AT 1305 PLEASANTON ROAD.
ITEM 16 ENDING 3 3 3 2 2 CD AT 10 0 4 WEST GRAMERCY PLACE.
THERE IS A SPEAKER IN FAVOR FOR THIS ITEM.
ITEM 17 ENDING IN 3 2 3 AT 5 0 7 ROTARY ITEM 18 ENDING 3 2 5 LOCATED AT 64 0 2 MARKHAM DRIVE.
AND ITEM NUMBER 19 ENDING IN 3 2 6.
THIS IS LOCATED AT 2 47 AND 2 85 WEST QUILL DRIVE AS WELL AS ITEM 23 ENDING IN 3 3 2.
GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 11,000 BLOCK OF TECHCOM ROAD.
AND ITEM NUMBER 24 ENDING IN 3 4 6 LOCATED AT 21 0 2, 21 30 23 10 2400 SOUTHWEST MILITARY DRIVE IN 77 0 7 INTERSTATE 35 SOUTH MR. CHAIR.
UM, IF ANYONE HERE IS PRESENT TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THOSE ITEMS OPPOSED TO THOSE ITEMS, PLEASE SPEAK NOW.
UH, ANY COMMISSIONERS? YES SIR.
UH, WE'RE HERE OPPOSING UH, CASE NUMBER 10.
CASE NUMBER 10 IS ON INDIVIDUAL.
WE'RE NOT THERE YET, BUT THANK YOU.
UM, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER ITEMS TO BE PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION? LOOKING TO MY LEFT, LOOKING TO MY RIGHT.
IF WE COULD READ THE ITEMS ON COMBINED HEARING.
NUMBER ONE, THE CONSENT AGENDA INTO THE RECORD PLEASE.
ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE R TO I D Z TWO WITH USES PERMITTED IN C ONE AND MF 33.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 27 NOTICES MAILED TWO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THIS IS LOCATED AT 1305 PLEASANTON ROAD.
ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO R SIX CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 10 0 4 WEST GRAMERCY PLACE.
THERE WERE 32 NOTICES MAILED, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.
ITEM NUMBER 17 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I TWO TO R FIVE WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 5 0 7 ROTARY, THERE WERE 28 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM HARVARD PLACED EAST LAWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 18 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE TO R SIX.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 64 0 2 MARKHAM DRIVE.
THERE WERE 20 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM CABLE.
WESTWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 19 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM RE C D WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR RETAIL NURSERY AND R FIVE TWO MF 18 LOCATED AT 2 47 WEST QUAIL DRIVE AND 2 85 WEST QUAIL DRIVE.
ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE IN OPPOSITION, AND ONE IN OPPOSITION OUTSIDE 200 FEET AND NO RESPONSE FROM WOODLAWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 23 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I ONE A H O D TO MF 33 A H O D.
GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 11,000 BLOCK OF TECH COM ROAD.
THERE WERE EIGHT NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
AND ITEM 24 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I TWO TO C THREE.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND NO RESPONSE FROM TIERRA LINDA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THE LOCATION IS 21 0 2, 21 30, 23 10 AND 2,400 SOUTHWEST MILITARY DRIVE AS WELL AS 77 0 7
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INTERSTATE 35 SOUTH.I BELIEVE WE HAVE A SPEAKER FOR ITEM NUMBER 16, MS. SPIELMAN, IS THAT CORRECT? MS. SPIELMAN, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO THAT ITEM.
IF SHE DOESN'T WANT TO, THAT'S OKAY TOO.
ALRIGHT MS. SPIELMAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS MS. SPIELMAN WAS IN FAVOR.
SO AT THIS TIME I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR A MOTION.
MR. CHAIR, THIS IS COMMISSIONER SIPES.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ITEMS NUMBER 13 16 17 18 19 23 AND 24.
ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS READ ON THE RECORD.
IS THERE A SECOND? WE'LL SECOND THAT.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE ITEMS AS READ ON THE RECORD BY COMMISSIONER S SIPES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS.
THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF THE ITEMS AS READ ON THE RECORD BY COMMISSIONER S SIPES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BOTTLES ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
IF YOU WERE PRESENT FOR ANY OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE JUST READ INTO THE RECORD AND MOVED FOR APPROVAL, YOU CAN LEAVE.
WE WELCOME YOU IF YOU WANNA STAY HERE, BUT AGAIN, YOU MAY HAVE SOMETHING BETTER TO DO.
STAFF, I MENTIONED THAT WE'D WANT TO GO TO RECUSAL NEXT.
I'M GONNA FLIP THAT TO CONTINUANCE.
UM, SO IF WE CAN GO TO THE CONTINUANCE DOCKET FIRST.
AND, AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION, I'LL JUST, UH, LIST ALL OF THESE TOGETHER SINCE THEY'RE ALL FOR FEBRUARY THE FIRST.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS AND WE DO HAVE SOME SPEAKERS THAT I WILL LET YOU KNOW? MM-HMM.
OKAY, SO, UH, THE ITEMS ON CONTIN OR FOR CONTINUANCE CONSIDERATION TODAY FOR FEBRUARY THE FIRST, THAT'S A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE.
OUR ITEM NUMBER 6, 7, 14 AND 20.
ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO RM FIVE A H O D LOCATED AT 5 0 6 EAST ASHBY PLACE.
THERE WERE 33 NOTICES MAILED ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, ONE IN OPPOSITION OUTSIDE 200 FEET.
TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED TO RM FIVE AND RM SIX, BUT WOULD SUPPORT OUR SIX CD FOR TWO UNITS.
THIS ITEM IS, UH, REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE FOR TWO WEEKS.
THERE ARE VOICEMAILS ON THIS ITEM AS WELL THAT WE CAN PLAY WHEN THE ITEM COMES BACK.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO TO C TWO CD WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME AND A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A RECORD SERVICE WITHOUT THE STORAGE SALES AUCTION LOCATED AT 28 0 6 RIG RIGSBY AVENUE.
THERE WERE 18 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR.
TWO RECEIVED AN OPPOSITION AND NO RESPONSE FROM COMANCHE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 14 FOR CONTINUANCE AS WELL IS TO REZONE FROM C TWO AND R SIX TO MF 25 WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
LOCATED AT, IN THE 6,400 BLOCK OF DAYS OF OLIVE ROAD, THERE WERE 15 NOTICES MAILED.
ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, 14 IN OPPOSITION AND NO RESPONSE FROM OAKMONT DOWN COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION.
AND THEN ITEM NUMBER 20 IS ALSO REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO FEBRUARY 1ST AND THAT'S FROM M I ONE S A H O D WITH SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A FAIR GROUND TO I ONE LOCATED AT 13,455 STATE HIGHWAY 16 SOUTH.
THERE WERE SEVEN NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION.
AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THERE ARE, HOWEVER, FOUR PEOPLE IN HERE IN PERSON TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
UM, SO FOR THOSE WHO ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 20, YOU ARE WELCOME TO SPEAK TODAY.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THE CONTINUANCE WILL BE GRANTED, UH, DEPENDS ON
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THE ACTIONS OF THIS COMMISSION.NEVERTHELESS, YOU CAN SPEAK TODAY.
UH, SO IF WE CAN CALL THE FIRST PERSON, IT IS UP TO YOU WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO SPEAK TODAY.
I BELIEVE MR. LAN IS HERE FOR 21.
SORRY, THAT MIGHT HAVE JUST BEEN HIT.
YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT THESE ARE ALL NUMBER, UH, NUMBERED WRONG.
SO THEY'RE ALL FOR 21, SO NO ONE'S HERE TO SPEAK FOR 20.
ALRIGHT, IN THAT CASE, UM, SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION.
I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR A MOTION FOR THE ITEMS 6, 7, 14, AND 20.
MR. CHAIR, THIS IS COMMISSIONER SIPES.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE TO THE FEBRUARY 1ST, 2022 MEETING FOR THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ITEMS NUMBER 6 7 14 AND 20.
ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE FOR THE ITEMS AS READ.
ALRIGHT, THERE IS A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, UH, THE MOTION IS FOR CONTINUANCE TO FEBRUARY 1ST FOR ITEM 6, 7, 14 AND 20, UH, BY COMMISSIONER SIPES.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.
MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE.
THERE WAS ONE ITEM THAT WAS ELIGIBLE FOR CONSENT, BUT DUE TO RECUSAL, WE ARE TAKING IT UP NOW.
UH, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT THE TIME IS 1 22 AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS LEAVING THE HEARING ROOM.
IF WE COULD READ ITEM NUMBER 22 INTO THE RECORD PLEASE.
THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM F B Z D TO C THREE C D SS WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME AND A CONDITIONAL USE FOR DRUG MANUFACTURING AS WELL AS A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR HELLA STOP GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 11 200 BLOCK OF SOUTH SALMO STREET.
THERE WERE 12 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION.
AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, MR. CHAIR.
ALRIGHT, AS I MENTIONED, THIS CASE WAS ELIGIBLE FOR, UH, CONSENT AND SO THEREFORE I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR A MOTION.
MR. CHAIR, THIS IS COMMISSIONER SIPES.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO.
ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 22.
ALRIGHT, I'M GOING WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER KAMATH, UH, ON THAT ONE.
SO ANY DISCUSSION FOR ITEM NUMBER 22, LOOKING LEFT, LOOKING RIGHT, LOOKING REMOTELY OR INTO THE MIDDLE DISTANCE? I ALRIGHT.
THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 22 BY COMMISSIONER SIPES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KAMATH.
ALRIGHT, WE WILL MOVE ON NOW TO OUR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION ITEMS. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS RECUSED FROM THIS ITEM AS WELL, SO SHE WILL REMAIN OUTSIDE OF THIS HEARING ROOM.
UM, IF WE CAN BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE.
MY NAME IS RICHARD B DE VASQUEZ ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES CASE NUMBER FOUR.
GENERALLY LOCATED IN 1400 BLOCK OF EAST ONTARIO BOULEVARD GOING FROM C THREE TO MF 40.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 11 NOTICES SENT OUT.
ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION AND NO REGISTERED.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN AND IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED AS REGIONAL CENTER IN THE LAND USE COMPONENT OF THE PLAN.
THE REQUESTED MF 40 BASE ZONING DISTRICT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE.
THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A PLAN AMENDMENT TO MIX THE USE STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, THIS IS AN E R Z D CASE, SO IF SAS IS PRESENT TO PROVIDE THEIR
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REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION PLEASE.MIKE ESCAL AQUIFER PROTECTION AND EVALUATION SECTION.
UH, WE HAVE REVIEWED THE ZONING APPLICATION LOCATED ON EAST ONTARIO BOULEVARD TO ALLOW FOR A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
THE SITE IS AN UNDEVELOPED NINE ACRE TRACK.
UH, NO PORTION OF THE SITE IS WITHIN A FLOODPLAIN.
AND NO SENSITIVE FEATURES WERE OBSERVED ON SITE, UH, NOR NOTED ON FILE.
UH, SAWS IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH ALL ENVIRONMENTAL RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THE REPORT TO INCLUDE, UH, 65% IMPERVIOUS COVER.
UH, IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WHEN YOU COME UP, PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THEN TELL US WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THE ZONING REQUEST AND OR GIVE YOUR PRESENTATION.
UH, KEN BROWN, ONE 12 EAST PECAN, SUITE 1360.
UM, REPRESENTING THE LANDOWNER, UH, AS STAFF STATED, UH, THE PROPERTY IS ABOUT 9.04 ACRES, UH, AT 6 0 4 AND SANTA BOULEVARD.
SO THE PROPERTY, UH, IS VACANT.
NO ENVIRONMENTAL ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE FEATURES.
IT'S SURROUNDED BY A HOTEL, A CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL, AND A, AND A RESTAURANT, MOSTLY COMMERCIAL.
THIS, THIS PROPERTY WAS, UH, WAS PLANNED FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES.
UM, UH, IT ALSO IN, IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, THERE'S A, UH, AN EXISTING, UH, WATER QUALITY BASIN THAT WAS SIZED AND DESIGNED FOR THE ADJACENT PROPERTY AND FOR THIS PROPERTY.
AND, AND IN ANTICIPATION OF THIS PROPERTY BEING COMMERCIAL AND UP TO, UH, A HUNDRED PERCENT IMPERVIOUS COVER BECAUSE IT IS A CATEGORY ONE PROPERTY, AS STAFF SAID, UH, WE, WE HAD TO AMEND THE, UH, SECTOR PLAN TO GO FROM REGIONAL CENTER TO MIXED USE PLANNING COMMISSION LAST WEEK RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THAT PLAN AMENDMENT.
SO THE CURRENT ZONING IS C THREE.
WE ARE, WE ARE ASKING FOR MF 40.
WHEN WE ORIGINALLY MET WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER FOR THIS DISTRICT, UM, WE WERE ANTICIPATING AN MF 33.
UH, BUT AFTER LOOKING AT THE SITE, UH, THE COUNCIL MEMBER ENCOURAGED US TO SEEK A HIGHER DENSITY ON THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE SURROUNDING USES AND THE CATEGORY STATUS, WHICH ONCE AGAIN IS CATEGORY ONE.
UH, SO WE DID, WE SUBMITTED, UH, FOR AN MF 40, UM, AND WE WORKED WITH SAWS, UH, FOR A, A RECOMMENDATION.
THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS 600, UH, WAS 60 65% IMPERVIOUS COVER, UM, AT 65% IMPERVIOUS COVER BETWEEN THE TIME OF SUBMITTAL.
AND NOW WE'VE DONE SOME DESIGN WORK ON THE SITE AND WE CAN GET 247 UNITS, WHICH IS 27 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH WE DON'T REALLY NEED THE MF 40 FOR 27 UNITS PER ACRE.
UH, AND SO WE WENT BACK TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND SAID, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO GET IN THIS CASE, 315 UNITS, UM, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 30, 38 UNITS PER ACRE, UH, WE WOULD NEED 70% IMPERVIOUS COVER.
UM, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN THE 5% OF IMPERVIOUS COVER OF ABOUT 68 UNITS.
UH, AT THIS POINT I WOULD LIKE, UH, CAR WITH PAP DAWSON TO EXPLAIN THE HISTORY OF THIS SITE BECAUSE THEY'VE WORKED ON IT FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME AND DISCUSS THE ISSUE OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 65% IMPERVIOUS COVER AND THE 70 THAT WE ARE REQUESTING.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSION.
I'M KARA TACKETT WITH P DAWSON ENGINEERS 2000 NORTHWEST LOOP FOUR 10.
AS KEN SAID, WE'VE WORKED ON THIS PROPERTY.
WE ORIGINALLY PLOTTED THIS, IT WAS PLANNED AS A MIXED USE COMMERCIAL, SEVEN AND EIGHT STORY OFFICE BUILDINGS, UM, HOTELS.
A HYATT PLACE IS ALREADY CONSTRUCTED.
MEDICAL OFFICES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
THIS WAS PLANNED AROUND 2008, 2007 WITH THE DOWNTURN OF THE ECONOMY.
THE PROJECT WENT ON HOLD, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE AERIAL THAT THEY SHOWED EARLIER.
WALMART'S TO THE SOUTH OF US, HYATT PLACES TO THE WEST.
UM, ACROSS THE STREET IS A C P S SUBSTATION, A MULTI, A MINI STORAGE, A RESTAURANT, METHODIST STONE OAK, AND CHRISTUS STONE.
OAK IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
IT'S BEEN DEVELOPED HIGHLY COMMERCIAL.
UM, WHEN THE SITE IT, BECAUSE WE BEGAN PERMITTING, UM, DECADES, ZON ALLOWED AS COMMERCIAL AT THE TIME OF THE WATER QUALITY ORDINANCE.
ONE OF THE UNIQUE THINGS IN THE ORDINANCE, IT HAS A SECTION ABOUT A NODE WHERE IT SAYS IF YOU'RE WITHIN 2,500 FEET OF A HIGHWAY TO HIGHWAY INTERSECTION,
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WHICH WE ARE BASICALLY AT 2 81 RIGHT AWAY AND WE'RE LESS THAN 2000 FEET FROM 1604, YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWED 80% IMPERVIOUS COVER.THE CODE IS SPECIFIC AND SAYS FOR COMMERCIAL USES.
HOWEVER, AT THE TIME WHEN THE ORDINANCE WAS REALLY ORIGINALLY WRITTEN IN THE NINETIES, MULTIFAMILY WAS ALLOWED UNDER COMMERCIAL USES.
WE DID NOT HAVE SEPARATE MULTIFAMILY ZONING CATEGORIES IN THOSE DAYS.
SO WE BELIEVE IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THE INTENT WHEN THE ORDINANCE WAS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN WAS TO ALLOW THESE HIGHER DENSITY MULTIFAMILY INCLUDED WITH COMMERCIAL IN THAT NODE CATEGORY WHERE WE WANNA ENCOURAGE DENSITY WHEN THE SITE WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED.
WE'VE BUILT ALL OF THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS FOR A MUCH HIGHER DENSITY.
WE'VE BUILT A SERIES OF DETENTION BASINS FOR A MUCH HIGHER DENSITY WITH BOTH THE WATER QUALITY POND AND IT'S IN PLACE AND OPERATING.
SO THE SITE IS PREPARED TO HANDLE A HIGHER DENSITY, BUT WITH HOUSING AT HIGH DEMAND THESE DAYS, MULTIFAMILY IS REALLY DESIRABLE IN THIS PART OF TOWN.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE BELIEVE 70% IMPERVIOUS COVER, EXCUSE ME, IS APPROPRIATE AS OPPOSED TO THE A HUNDRED PERCENT TODAY, AS OPPOSED AS AND ALLOWED UNDER THE ORDINANCE, WE COULD GO AS HIGH AS 80 EVEN IF YOU STRIPPED THAT IMPROVEMENT.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. BROWN.
IS THAT IN THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION? UH, WE'RE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? NO, SIR.
THIS IS A, ALRIGHT, THIS IS A DISTRICT NINE CASE, SO COMMISSIONER RE BARDOS TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION.
I, I, UM, SPOKE WITH COUNCILMAN COURAGE AND STAFF, UM, SONY, UM, STAFF MEMBER CHARLIE MASUKA.
SO, UH, HE'S IN FULL SUPPORT OF THE 70% IMPERIAL, UM, COVER.
AND, UM, HE REALLY BELIEVES IN DENSITY AND THE USE OF THIS, UH, PROPERTY, WHICH IS ALL SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
SO I WILL SUPPORT THIS MOTION AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION, UM, BUT I'LL WAIT FOR OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BOTTLES, UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT.
ANY QUESTIONS? NOT DISCUSSION QUESTIONS.
SEEING NONE COMMERS TO MY RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL QUESTIONS? YES, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
SO I WOULD JUST HAVE A QUESTION THEN FOR SAS TO WEIGH IN ON THIS, PLEASE.
MR. ESCALANTE IS AT THE PODIUM.
SO MR. ESCALANTE, CAN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT THE REQUESTED 70% VERSUS THE 65% RECOMMENDATION BY SAS? UM, SO IT, IT, IT WENT FROM COMMERCIAL TO TO MULTIFAMILY AND UH, IT'S CURRENTLY A CATEGORY ONE SITE.
SO, UH, DURING THE, THE REVIEW PROCESS, UM, THE DIRECTOR SCOTT HALTE, HE, HE, UH, UM, HE WENT AHEAD INSTEAD OF GOING WITH 50%, UH, BECAUSE IT WAS A CATEGORY ONE GOING FROM, UM, COMMERCIAL INTO MULTIFAMILY AND IT WAS LOCATED WITHIN A HIGHWAY TO HIGHWAY NODE.
HE WAS OKAY WITH ALLOWING THE 65%, UH, PREVIOUS COVER.
UM, THE, THE 70%, UH, THE, THE INCREASE, UH, SAW SAWS WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW AND EVALUATE THE INFORMATION SUBMITTED TODAY, UH, CONCERNING THE, UH, THE, UM, INCREASE IN IMPERVIOUS COVER.
UM, WE WILL REACH OUT TO THE APPLICANT CONCERNING ANY CHANGES TO THE SAUL'S REPORT AND, UH, PRIOR TO CITY COUNCIL.
AND JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR THE STAFF'S ATTORNEY PLEASE.
ALRIGHT, MS. MCDANIEL, MS. GWEN IS GETTING THE MICROPHONE.
UM, SO I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF, UM, CITY STAFF CITY'S POSITION, UH, AGREES WITH WHAT THE INTERPRETATION IS FROM BACK WHEN THIS WAS INITIALLY ZONED AND, UH, AND ESTABLISHED FOR IMPERIAL'S COVER VERSUS WHAT WE BELIEVE OR WHAT, UH, THE APPLICANT BELIEVES TO BE TRUE TODAY, THAT IT WAS INTENDED TO HOUSE MULTIFAMILY AS WELL.
THE CODE DOES PROVIDE FOR THE NODE THAT'S, THAT IS A FACTUAL, UH, IN THE CODE AND SO IF THEY MEET THAT CRITERIA, OKAY, THEY WOULD HAVE THAT OPTION AS FAR AS MULTIFAMILY
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BEING THE SAME AS COMMERCIAL THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT, LOOK AT THE DATES, LOOK AT, UH, THE SUBMISSION.SO I'M NOT PREPARED TO JUST MAKE A, BASICALLY A RIGHTS DETERMINATION HERE AT ZONING COMMISSION.
UH, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
I THINK YOU ASKED MY QUESTION REGARDING 34,930 F SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
UM, AND I GUESS THAT'S IT THEN.
SO ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMERS TO MY LEFT, TO MY RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER REBUTTALS TO YOU FOR A MOTION? YEAH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT WITH THE 70% IMP PREVIOUS COVER AND UM, UM, WITH ALL THE OTHER FALSE RECOMMENDATIONS BUT WITH THE 70% IMPERIOUS COVER.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH SAUL'S RECOMMENDATION WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE 65% AND IN FAVOR OF THAT 70%, UH, THERE'S A SECOND.
UM, THAT'S BY COMMISSIONER BATTLES.
THERE'S A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITE.
UH, LET'S HAVE SOME DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT COMMISSIONER TO MY RIGHT.
I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION PRIMARILY BECAUSE WE ARE GONNA GO FROM 100% POSSIBLE IMPERVIOUS COVER DOWN TO 70% AND, AND, UM, THAT IS AN IMPROVEMENT IN MY OPINION.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT.
UH, I THINK I TOO WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
UM, I THINK THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY SOME ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED BY SAS, UH, BY THE CITY ATTORNEY AND I THINK THOSE CAN EACH BE ADDRESSED, UH, IN LIGHT OF SORT OF THE ORDINANCE FRAMEWORK AROUND 34, 9 30, UH, BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSES THIS ISSUE.
SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION AS WELL.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL WITH SAWS RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT FOR THE 65% IMPERVIOUS COVER WITH THE 70% IMPERVIOUS COVER INSTEAD BY COMMISSIONER BARROS.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITE ROLL CALL.
IF WE CAN CALL BACK COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
ALRIGHT, WHEN I SEE COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, WE CAN BEGIN ITEM FIVE.
TELL YOU WHAT DO YOU, YOU SEE HER ALRIGHT, COFFEE.
ALRIGHT, THE TIME IS 1 39 AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS RETURNED TO THE HEARING ROOM.
IF WE CAN PROCEED WITH ITEM NUMBER FIVE PLEASE.
MY NAME IS ROLAND
ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS LOCATED AT 2230 5,000 OAKS SUITE 1 1 4 GOING FROM C THREE C THREE S WITH SPECIFIC USE FOR A PRINT SHOP AND DRY CLEANING TO C THREE AND C THREE S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR PRINT SHOP AND A LAUNDRY AND DRY CLEANING.
SELF-SERVICE WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
THERE WERE SEVEN NOTICES SENT OUT.
ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE WHISPER HOLLOW HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.
SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN AND IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED AS A MIXED USE CENTER IN THE FUTURE LAND USE AND COMPONENT OF THE PLAN.
THE REQUESTED C THREE BAY ZONING DISTRICT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
ADJACENT PROPERTIES ARE ZONE C THREE SS GENERAL COMMERCIAL WITH SPECIFIC USE FOR
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A PRINT SHOP AND C THREE SS GENERAL COMMERCIAL WITH SPECIFIC USE FOR A QUICK LUBE AND INSPECTION STATION.PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET ARE ZONE C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, THIS IS AN E R Z D CASE, EDWARDS AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE DISTRICT.
SO MR. ESCALANTE, IT'S BACK TO YOU AGAIN.
UH, MIKE, MIKE ESCALANTE EZ AQUIFER PROTECTION EVALUATION.
UH, WE HAVE REVIEWED THE ZONING APPLICATION LOCATED AT 2230 5,000 OAKS DRIVE TO ALLOW A SELF-SERVICE.
UH, THE SITE IS IS AN EXISTING 4,298 SQUARE FOOT SUITE LOCATED IN THE PARKWOOD PLACE SHOPPING CENTER.
NO PORTION OF THE SITE IS WITHIN A FLOODPLAIN AND NO SENSITIVE FEATURES WERE OBSERVED ON SITE NOR NOTED ON FILE.
THE PROPOSED PROJECT WILL NOT NEGATIVELY AFFECT THE ENVIRONMENT, SO IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR A SELF-SERVICE LAUNDROMAT.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US WHY YOU'RE SEEKING THIS REZONING REQUEST.
UM, I'M HERE IN REPRESENTATION OF THE LANDLORD OF PARKWOOD P PARK, PARKWOOD PLACE.
I'M SORRY, I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS.
UM, I WORK FOR ROADIE ROYALTY, THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT AND LEASING FIRM FOR THE SHOPPING CENTER.
UM, WE'RE LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF THOUSAND OAKS DRIVE AND HENDERSON PASS IN DISTRICT 10.
UM, LAST AUGUST WE SIGNED A LEASE AGREEMENT FOR A 4,298 SQUARE FOOT SELF AND FULL SERVICE LAUNDROMAT AND ARE HEREBY REQUESTING A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C THREE E R Z D TO C THREE S E R Z D TO ALLOW THIS USE IN SUITE ONE 14 ONLY OF THE SHOPPING CENTER.
OUR TENANTS SPIN EXPRESS LAUNDRY IS AN ESTABLISHED LAUNDRYMAT WITH THE TOTAL OF 12 SUCCESSFUL LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT HOUSTON, THE VALLEY AND SIX ALONE IN OUR CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
UM, SPIN EXPRESS OFFERS A NEW MODERN CONCEPT FOR A LAUNDROMAT FACILITY BY PROVIDING HIGH EFFICIENCY MACHINES OPERATED BY CARD OR THROUGH THEIR OWN PERSONALIZED APP, UM, WHICH OFFERS REWARDS WITH EVERY PURCHASE THROUGH THEIR LOYALTY PROGRAM.
EACH FACILITY IS APPROXIMATELY A MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT THAT INCLUDES LARGE SCREEN TVS THROUGHOUT THE STORE.
A KIDS' PLAY AREA WITH COMPLIMENTARY IPADS, A LOUNGING AND EATING AREA FOR THE FAMILY, AND IS ALWAYS FULLY ATTENDED, RESULTING IN A PROFESSIONALLY CLEAN ENVIRONMENT AT ALL TIMES CLASSIFIED AS AN ESSENTIAL BUSINESS.
THIS LAUNDROMAT FACILITY WILL BENEFIT THE 10 PLUS, UM, MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTIES CONSISTING OF OLDER GARDEN APARTMENT HOMES THAT ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE ONE MILE RADIUS OF OUR PROPOSED SITE.
UM, EACH WITH AN AVERAGE OF 250 UNITS.
WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE SYNERGY IT WILL BRING TO THE SHOPPING CENTER, THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC FOR ALL NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES AND WE WISH TO HAVE YOUR APPROVAL IN ORDER TO CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS.
UM, IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? NO, SIR.
SINCE THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT, THIS IS A COMM, UH, DISTRICT 10 CASE COMMISSIONER WHITE TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
UM, I THINK THIS ONE'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, BUT I'LL OPEN IT UP TO MY OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
ANY QUESTIONS? COMMERS TO MY LEFT COMMISSIONER TO MY RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? NO QUESTIONS.
UH, COMMISSIONER WHITE TO YOU FOR MOTION AND DISCUSSION, PLEASE.
I WANT TO COM COMMEND THE APPLICANT, VERY PROFESSIONAL, UM, PRESENTATION AND AS WELL AS WORKING WITH, UH, UH, WITH OUR COUNCIL OFFICE.
AND SO, UH, WITH THAT SAID, I MAKE A MOTION TO AP APPROVE.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM FIVE WITH SAUL'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT.
COMMISSIONER BARDOS IS THE SECOND.
ALRIGHT, ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? TO MY LEFT.
THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE WITH SAUL'S RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, BY COMMISSIONER WHITE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTLES.
UM, ALRIGHT, WE WILL MOVE ON NOW TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
MY NAME'S ROLAND ES ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS LOCATED AT 9,400 BLOCK OF SOUTHEAST LOOP
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FOUR 10 GOING FROM I ONE TO MF 33 WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME.THERE WERE 16 NOTICES SENT OUT.
ONE WAS RETURNED IN FAVOR, FIVE WERE IN OPPOSITION.
ALDO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN OPPOSITION.
THERE WERE 21 IN FAVOR OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET, 362 OPPOSED OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET.
ONLINE POSITION AND OPPOSITION, UH, AT 683.
SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE STINSON AIRPORT VICINITY LAND USE PLAN, AND IS DESIGNATED LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
THE EXISTING I ONE IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED MF 33 IS APPROPRIATE AND OFFERS THE TRANSITION BETWEEN R SIX AND MP 10 ZONING AND USES IT ALSO PROVIDES AN ALTERNATIVE HOUSING OPTION FOR THE AREA.
STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
I RESIDE AT TWO 14 WEST ACADEMY SAN ANTONIO IN DISTRICT FIVE, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
UH, THIS IS, I BELIEVE, THE FIVE, THE FIFTH TIME THAT, UH, WE'VE HEARD THIS CASE.
UH, AND, UH, I WOULD HOPE THAT, UH, TODAY WE CAN, UH, FIND SOME, UH, FAVORABLE RESOLUTION.
UH, AS YOU ARE AWARE, THIS IS AN AMENDED, UH, APPLICATION.
UH, IT WAS AMENDED FROM THE ORIGINAL, UH, APPLICATION, UH, FOR AN MF 33 DOWN ZONE.
UH, WE HAVE SINCE FORMALLY AMENDED THAT APPLICATION, UH, TO AN MF 25.
UH, AND, UH, I BELIEVE THAT WE'VE, UH, TRIED TO, UH, BE COOPERATIVE AND DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE WITH THE SURROUNDING, UH, NEIGHBORS, UH, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UH, WE'VE MADE EVERY EFFORT POSSIBLE AND, UH, PROVIDED CONCESSIONS, UH, UH, ON THIS PROPOSED PROJECT.
UM, THIS IS A, UH, A PROJECT THAT, UH, WILL BE, BE, UH, UTILIZED FOR PRIMARILY, UH, MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS, UPSCALE APARTMENTS.
WE HAVE THE DEVELOPER OR THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE DEVELOPER HERE PRESENT THAT IS GONNA BE, UH, ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES WE'VE PROVIDED AT THE REQUEST OF THE COMMISSION, UH, THE LATEST, UH, SITE PLANT AND ALSO THE LATEST SURVEY.
UH, ORIGINALLY, UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WAS CONSISTENT OF ABOUT, UH, 20 SOME ODD ACRES, AND IT'S NOW AS A RESULT OF THE LATEST, UH, SURVEY DOWN TO 18.97 ACRES IN QUESTION.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, UH, AGAIN, WE'VE TRIED TO, UH, PROVIDE NOT ONLY, UH, TRANSPARENT INFORMATION AS TO THE PROPOSED USE, BUT, UH, REMINDER THAT THIS IS A GOOD AND PROPER, UH, ZONING REQUEST.
UH, THE ORIGINAL, UH, APPLICATION, UH, WAS, UM, WAS MOVED AND, UH, I THINK FAILED, UH, THE APPROVAL BY ONE VOTE, UH, AS A RESULT OF ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, BEING ABSENT, UH, ON THAT OCCASION.
BUT, UH, AGAIN, THIS IS A DOWN ZONING.
UH, REMINDER THE ZONING, UH, STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AS WAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
UH, AND, UH, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S, UH, AGAIN, MR. ABRAMS REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPER WHO WILL BE SPEAKING.
UH, ALSO, UH, UH, AFTER I SPEAK ALONG WITH, UH, SOME OPPOSITION.
NOW, UH, AGAIN, UH, WE'VE MADE EVERY EFFORT POSSIBLE WITH THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT DIRECTLY IMPACTED OR AFFECTED, UH, WITH THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY THERE ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, UH, THEREBY WE HAVE, UH, MADE CONCESSIONS AND AGREE TO MEET WITH THEM AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND AGAIN, I PRAY THAT WE CAN, UH, COME TO SOME RESOLUTION.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. GALLEGOS STAFF, IS THERE A PUBLIC COMMENT OR IS MR. ABRAMS GONNA SPEAK AS WELL WITH
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THE REMAINING SIX MINUTES? UH, THERE IS PUBLIC COMMENT.ALRIGHT, LET'S GO ON TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE.
I RESIDE AT 1522 SAN RAFAEL 7 8 2 1 4.
WE HAVEN'T MET WITH THESE, UH, WITH, UH, MR. GALLEGOS OR ANYONE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SINCE OCTOBER.
WE ARE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ACREAGE IS.
WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S 19, 20, 23.
YOU KEEP BRINGING UP INDUSTRIAL, WE KNOW IT'S INDUSTRIAL IF YOU KNOW THE AREA, THAT PARTICULAR AREA HAS A LOT OF RESTRICTIONS BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION OF THAT, OF THAT ACREAGE.
YOU HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO IT.
YOU HAVE THE
YOU HAVE THE STINSON LAND USE, WHICH IS LOW DENSITY RIGHT NOW, WHERE WE WERE WILLING TO GO MEDIUM DENSITY WITH, WITH THE OH, WITH THE, UH, MR. GALLEGOS.
UM, WE'RE OFFERING AN MF 18 FOR THE TOTAL PROPERTY, WHETHER IT'S 19, 20 19 POINT, OR HE SAID 18 POINT 11.
WE ARE WILLING TO GO AN MF 18 FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE AREA.
UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOES NOT WANT APARTMENTS.
YOU HAVE SIGNATURES MORE THAN A THOUSAND THAT WERE SUBMITTED AND PETITIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED AGAINST THIS.
UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS NO, THROUGH TRAFFIC THROUGH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AS YOU CAN SEE, DIFFERENT STRUCTURE IS NOT THERE FOR THIS PROPERTY.
THE ONLY WAY OUT IF YOU GO THROUGH THE FRONT IS A ONE-WAY ACCESS ROAD WITH TWO LANES.
AND IT ONLY HAS, IT ONLY HAS ONE LANE BECAUSE ONE LANE IS BLOCKED BY A MEDIAN, BY A CONCRETE, UH, BARRIER.
AND IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT FOR THREE YEARS.
I DON'T THINK ANYTHING'S GONNA CHANGE.
WE HAVE A, AN ACADEMY MISSION ACADEMY ON PERSA WITH A 30 MILE PER HOUR ZONE LIMIT.
I THINK THAT THIS IS, UM, A SAFETY CONCERN FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY DON'T WANT IT, BUT WE ARE WILLING TO COMPROMISE.
WE'VE BEEN WILLING TO COMPROMISE FROM THE BEGINNING.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE AGAINST MF 25, BUT WE WILL, WE CAN GO WITH AN M F 18, BUT FOR THE TOTAL PROPERTY, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT WE HAVE SOME ASSURANCE.
THAT'S, AND THAT'S A MEDIUM DENSITY.
THEY WENT FOR HIGH DENSITY WITH AN MF 25.
IT'S LOW DENSITY ACCORDING TO THE STENTS AND LAND USE.
AND WE'RE WILLING TO GO MF 18 WITH A MEDIUM DENSITY.
SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY EXCEPT THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE IF HE DOES BUILD THAT HE DOESN'T SELL IT AS AN MF 25.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY ASSURANCE OF THAT EITHER.
YOU KNOW, HE COULD SAY HE'S GONNA HAVE AN MF 25, HE'S GONNA BUILD ALL OF THIS.
LIKE I SAID, WE HAVEN'T MET WITH HIM SINCE OCTOBER, SO WE DON'T KNOW IF HE'S GONNA BUILD.
SOMETIMES THINGS CHANGE AND YOU SELL AS AN MF 25.
THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE LIKE CLOSE TO 500 APARTMENTS GOING UP IN THAT AREA.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROTECTED.
AND AN M F 18 IS WHAT WE'RE OFFERING.
SO WE CAN'T SAY THAT WE'RE NOT COMPROMISING.
THERE'S BUILT, THEY SAY WE DON'T WANT APARTMENTS AREA.
WE GOT A THOUSAND APARTMENTS COMING UP ON NEW BRAUNFELS AND MILITARY DRIVE, GOT APARTMENTS RIGHT ACROSS THE EXPRESSWAY FROM THESE APARTMENTS THAT ARE GONNA BE BUILT.
SO IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT APARTMENTS, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE CORRECT ZONING IS FOR THAT PROPERTY.
I RESIDE AT 1 8 3 9 EAST PYRON 7 8 2 2 3.
UH, REPRESENTING THE HOT WELLS MISSION REACH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UH, WE CONCUR WITH THE VIA CORONADO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THEIR CONCERNS AND OPPOSITION TO THE HIGH DENSITY OF ANYTHING MORE THAN AN MF 18 ON THIS SITE.
UM, AS OLGA STATED, NO CONTACT HAS BEEN MADE WITH THE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE OCTOBER OF, UH, 21.
UH, THIS IS A CASE STUDY AND HOW NOT TO APPLY FOR A REZONING AND HOW NOT TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY ON THIS EVER CHANGING DATA SIZE OF PROPERTY ONLY, UH, GIVING OUT THE DATA IN THESE HEARINGS, UH, THAT THAT SEEMS TO BE THE, UH, METHOD OF OPERATION IN THIS CASE.
UM, THE SITE MAP AS YOU SEE UP THERE IS, UH, INCORRECT, UH, WITH THE WATER EASEMENT AND THE SEWER TRANSPOSED.
SO, UM, THERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER, UH, DISCREPANCIES.
THIS HASN'T BEEN THOUGHT OUT VERY WELL.
OBVIOUSLY THE PARKING LOT AT NINE O'CLOCK TO THE DUE LEFT IS WITHIN 10 FOOT OF THE
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ASAKIA.THE PROPERTY LINE FROM THE ASAKIA IS 10 FOOT FROM THE CENTER OF THE CHANNEL.
SO IT'S RIGHT ON, RIGHT ON IT.
AND THEY'RE NOT CONSIDERING, UM, IMPERVIOUS COVER ISSUES AS IT SHOULD BE.
JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE LAST CASE IN THE AQUIFER AREA.
PERHAPS THE SIGN IN THIS PARKING LOT THAT SAYS THE ASAKIA USED TO BE HERE, UH, COULD BE PLACED AT THESE APARTMENTS, UM, FOR THE DESTRUCTION IT IS GOING TO DO.
AND ALSO THE INCREASE IN FLOODING AND OTHER DOWNSTREAM PROBLEMS. AND MF 18 WOULD LIMIT THE PARKING SPACES, SO IT WOULD DEAL WITH THAT AND TRULY BE ABLE TO DO THE GARDEN STYLE APARTMENTS THAT THEY CLAIM TO.
UM, ALSO THE, UH, AT 19 ACRES, N MF 25 WOULD BE 36% HIGHER THAN THE, UM, ORIGINAL REQUEST THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO OR ASSERTION OF 350 APARTMENTS.
UM, NOW IT'S, I BELIEVE INTO THE THREE EIGHTIES OR SOMETHING.
SO EVERYTHING, UM, JUST KEEPS TO BE DYNAMIC IN THIS.
IT'S, AND IT'S, IT MAKES ME, UM, REALLY WONDER ON THE CREDIBILITY OF ANY ASSERTION THAT IS MADE, INCLUDING THESE, THE COMMERCIAL IN FRONT.
I FIND THAT KIND OF INTERESTING, UM, BECAUSE OF THE LIMITED ACCESS, UH, TO FOUR 10 THERE, IT IS NOT NEAR AN ON THE NEAREST ON RAMP, UH, OR EXIT RAMP IS A MILE AND A HALF TO THE WEST AND THE NEAREST ON RAMP IS TWO MILES TO THE EAST.
AND THE TALK OF PUTTING A GROCERY STORE THERE, THERE'S AN H E B GOING IN AT TWO MILES DOWN THE ROAD AT ROOSEVELT AND MILITARY ROOSEVELT AND FOUR 10.
THERE'S ALREADY ONE AT GOLIAD AND MILITARY.
SO I FIND THAT KIND OF INTERESTING.
THIS, THIS WHOLE THING IS BASICALLY JUST A BAIT AND SWITCH.
THEY WANNA GET THE HIGHEST MF DENSITY THEY CAN FOR POTENTIAL SALE.
A LOWER DENSITY WOULD GUARANTEE THAT HIGH QUALITY, LOW DENSITY TYPE APARTMENTS, THE HIGHER DENSITY PRETTY MUCH GUARANTEES A LOW, LOW QUALITY APARTMENT.
AND THIS ONE'S DAVID, BUT I'M GONNA BUTCHER THIS LAST NAME 'CAUSE I CAN'T READ IT.
ABRAM AL ABRAMS, BIG ABRAMS ABRAMS. OKAY.
HE JUMPED UP SO I KNEW IT WAS HIM.
ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA, UM, HAND A COUPLE OF THESE OUT TO THE, IF YOU GIVE IT TO STAFF RIGHT THERE, PLEASE.
AND IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UH, I'D LIKE TO ALSO, UH, WELL, MY NAME'S DAVID ABRAMS. UH, I LIVE AT 1 22 EAST BRANDON DRIVE.
UH, I'M A REAL ESTATE AGENT WITH PHYLLIS BROWN AND COMPANY, AND I REPRESENT, UH, SBO DEVELOPMENT, UH, JIM YOUNG.
UH, I, I'D LIKE MAYBE A COUPLE EXTRA MINUTES BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE SAID THAT WERE NOT TRUE.
SO, UH, CAN WE PUT THE SURVEY UP REAL QUICK? OKAY.
SO, UM, TO, TO ADDRESS CONCERNS THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO KEEP INFORMATION FROM PEOPLE, THIS WAS, UM, THIS WAS FINALIZED THIS MORNING.
COUNTY RECORDS SAID 23 ACRES ORIGINAL BOUNDARY SURVEY CAME TO 20 ACRES.
SO THE COUNTY RECORD WAS THREE ACRES OFF.
THIS WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATIONS THE LAST SEVERAL MEETINGS.
UH, IN ADDITION, THE SELLER, UH, SOLD AN EASEMENT TO THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, WHICH TURNED OUT TO BE SO RESTRICTIVE THAT THEY STOLE ESSENTIALLY TWO ACRES FROM THE SELLER.
SO THE FINAL SURVEY COMES TO 18 ACRES, 18.9 ACRES.
THAT'S THE FINAL SURVEY RIGHT THERE.
I CAN PROVIDE IT TO THE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T REALLY INVOLVED IN THE SALE, BUT HAVE A SAY IN THIS.
UM, ONCE WE FACTOR IN THE ADDITIONAL EASEMENTS, THERE'S A LARGE CITY SEWER EASEMENT.
THERE'S ALSO AN OLD EASEMENT FOR A SEWER TREATMENT PLAN FOR A GEORGIAN GEORGIAN PLACE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT NEVER CAME TO PASS, BUT RESTRICTS DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE DOWN TO 17 ACRES OF DEVELOPABLE LAND, UH, TOTAL.
ADDITIONALLY, IF WE CAN GO TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS DOCUMENT, WHICH IS THE, UH, THE CONCEPT SITE PLAN.
THE, THE DEVELOPER HAVING SAT IN A MEETING WITH THE, UM, WITH THE CITY COUNCILWOMAN, UH, UNDERSTOOD THE NEED FOR, UH, GROCER POTENTIALLY, UH, AND ALSO, UM, CHILDCARE, SOME ADDITIONAL SERVICES TO ATTEND TO THE ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF PERSONNEL.
HE'S ACTUALLY AGREED TO MF 25 ZONING WITH A CAP OF 380 UNITS.
AND SO THE REASON FOR THE MF 25 ZONING IS AS WE FURTHER AFTER HE OWNS IT RIGHT NOW, HE DOESN'T OWN IT YET.
UH, AFTER HE OWNS IT FURTHER, DEVELOP THE SITE PLAN FURTHER, DEVELOP HOW THEY COULD POTENTIALLY USE ADDITIONAL ACREAGE IN THAT SITE PLAN TO THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY.
UH, HE'LL NEED THE FLEXIBILITY THEN AS THAT, AS THAT, UH, AREA GETS SMALLER WHERE HE CAN BUILD APARTMENT COMPLEX ON.
SO 380 UNITS, HE'S AGREED TO THAT CAP.
UH, ESSENTIALLY MY LAST, UH, COMMENT AS FAR AS THIS GOES BEFORE, YOU KNOW, I OFFER, UH, MYSELF UP TO ANY QUESTIONS IS, UM, WHAT'S TO SAY IF WE GO TO MF.
I MEAN, IT WAS MF 22 LAST TIME THEY ASKED FOR SOMETHING, WE CAME DOWN TO MF 25.
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SO, WE'LL, WE'LL AGREE TO, YOU KNOW, IT, I'M NOT SAYING WE WILL, 'CAUSE I I'M SURE THAT THAT'LL KILL THIS DEAL, BUT, UM, IF WE GO TO MF 18, WHO'S TO SAY THEY DON'T COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE HEAR YOU, BUT REALLY MF FOUR IS WHAT WE'RE AFTER.SO LIKE, AT WHAT POINT DOES THIS STOP? UH, AND IT'S, IT'S COST A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS RIGHT NOW FOR THE SELLER WHO'S A CONSTITUENT OF, UH, OF DISTRICT THREE.
SO, UH, AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME, UH, SOME LANDOWNER, UH, RIGHTS INVOLVED IN THIS.
HE'S ALREADY GONNA HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE NATIONAL PARK AND FIND OUT HOW HE CAN BE COMPENSATED FOR THE TWO ACRES THEY TOOK FROM HIM.
SO, UH, THAT'S, UH, SORRY IF I CAME OFF A LITTLE BIT, UH, UH, EXCITING.
IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP.
ALRIGHT, STAFF, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE, SIR.
THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE.
UH, COMMISSIONER FUENTES TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
UH, COULD I HAVE, UH, MR. ABRAMS ACTUALLY COME BACK UP? DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO GO ANYWHERE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT YOUR MASK ON IF YOU'RE SPEAKING.
THANK YOU MR. ABRAMS. YES, SIR.
SO, UH, YOU SAID THAT, UH, AS THE THE LATEST SITE PLAN, UH, REVEALS, OR IT'S LATEST SURVEY, IT'S 18.97 ACRES? THAT'S CORRECT.
WITH A, UH, APPROXIMATE TOTAL DEVELOPABLE ACREAGE OF 17 ACRES? THAT'S CORRECT.
IT'S, UH, WE, WE CAME TO 17.009 AND THAT'S WHEN YOU, ON THE, ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SURVEY, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE SURVEY, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT CORNER.
SO ON THE, ON THE LEFT SIDE, THE, THE, UH, TRACK THE EASEMENT LEGEND AND THAT LISTS ALL THE DIFFERENT EASEMENTS ON THERE.
AND WHEN YOU CALCULATE SOME OF 'EM OVERLAP.
SO WHEN YOU CALCULATE ALL OF THE EASEMENTS AND THEN SUBTRACT THE OVERLAP WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, EIGHT, IT COMES TO 1.96 ACRES THAT THEY CAN'T USE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT AN APPROXIMATE, UH, APPROXIMATE TOTAL OF 425 UNITS DOWN FROM THE INITIAL 660 MAXIMUM WITH THE MF 33.
AND, AND ACTUALLY THE DEVELOPER HAS AGREED TO, UH, TO LANGUAGE THAT CAPS IT AT 380.
UH, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR, UH, STAFF? SO AS FAR AS THE DEVELOPER AGREEING TO THAT 380, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT, UH, WE COULD ENTER IN ON A MOTION, UH, TO, TO GET THAT 380 IN STONE OR NO? OKAY.
FIRST, UM, CAN WE PUT GAIL BACK ON THE TVS? UM, SO THERE'S A COUPLE QUE COUPLE THINGS THAT, UM, WE HAVE TO DO WITH THIS CASE.
UH, SO AS YOU'RE AWARE, IT IS STARTING FROM INDUSTRIAL ZONING TO MF 33 WITH AN AMENDMENT OFFICIALLY ON THE RECORD TO MF 25.
UM, SO THAT WOULD REQUIRE IT TO BE, UH, READVERTISED AND REIFIED FOR THE MF 25.
NOW, WE KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND THAT THERE IS A PROPOSED AMENDMENT THAT THE ZONING COMMISSION PUT IN TO ALLOW THE FLEXIBILITY, UM, IN ORDER TO MAKE THOSE KIND OF AMENDMENTS IF IT WAS LESS DENSITY.
BUT RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THAT THE CODE IS WRITTEN IS THAT IT WOULD, UH, BE REQUIRED IF TO BE READVERTISED AND REPUBLISHED.
AND, AND I SPOKE WITH MR. ABRAM, SO HE'S AWARE OF THAT.
UM, AS YOU RECALL, IN THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS, WE DIDN'T HAVE FIELD NOTES TO DEFINE WHAT THAT ACREAGE WAS SO THAT THEY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE U THAT WHAT THEY HAD AT THE END OF THE DAY TO DETERMINE IF THE MF 33 WAS NECESSARY.
UH, THEY NOW HAVE THOSE FIELD NOTES, THEY GOT 'EM THIS MORNING AND, UH, THEY KNOW THAT 33 IS TOO MUCH.
AS FAR AS, UM, YOUR QUESTION RELATED TO FURTHER RESTRICTING THE DENSITY, THERE'S NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE AS PART, AS PART OF THE ZONING COMMISSION'S MOTION.
'CAUSE YOU CANNOT DO CONDITIONAL, UH, ZONING ON, UH, MF REQUESTS.
UH, BUT THEY CAN DO THAT THROUGH DEED RESTRICTIONS AND IT WOULD BE ENFORCED BETWEEN THE OWNER, THE DEVELOPER, AND, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO FURTHER RESTRICTED.
THE ONLY THING THE CITY CAN DO IS RESTRICT BASED ON THE ZONING DIS ZONING DESIGNATION, WHETHER IT'S 18 UNITS PER ACRE, 25 UNITS PER ACRE, 33 UNITS PER ACRE.
UH, SO THAT'S WHERE WE STAND TODAY.
SO IF WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH AN OFFICIAL AMENDMENT, THEN THERE WAS NO MOTION THAT IS REQUIRED TODAY BECAUSE WE WILL BRING IT BACK.
UM, WE WILL ADVERTISE IT FOR THE FEBRUARY 15TH ZONING COMMISSION MEETING AND EXPEDITE IT TO CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE OF, UH, THE TIME IT WAS TAKEN TO GO THROUGH THESE NEGOTIATIONS.
UH, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR NOW.
FIRST OF ALL, UM, WOULD THIS CASE BE ELIGIBLE FOR AN I D Z
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UM, ZONING? IT'S WITHIN THE CRITERIA.IT WOULD STILL HAVE TO BE READVERTISED FOR THAT.
UM, AND THEN, UM, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR MR. ABRAMS. YES, MA'AM.
UM, IS THERE ANY TYPE OF GOVERNMENT SUBSIDY, UM, PLANNED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT? NOT, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF, BUT I, I, I CAN'T SPEAK ON THAT.
I MEAN, WE'RE STILL SO EARLY IN THE PROCESS JUST TRYING TO GET IT, GET IT ZONED APPROPRIATELY THAT HE HASN'T STARTED TO, YOU KNOW, HE, THE THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU HAVE, WAS THAT THE REQUEST OF THE COUNCILWOMAN? UH, HE PAID AN ARCHITECT TO DO IT WITHOUT EVEN, YOU KNOW, OWNING THE PROPERTY OR ANYTHING YET.
SO, UH, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY, THE THE FINANCING AND, AND, UH, AND ALL OF THAT HAS NOT BEEN, UH, ADVERTISED.
SO IS THERE ANY AFFORDABILITY COMPONENT OR IS THIS PLANNED TO BE LUXURY? WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL PLAN FOR THIS MARKET RATE? UH, AND THEN HE HAS AGREED TO, UM, TO CONSIDER SOME, SOME LEVEL OF, YOU KNOW, A 10% OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OF NOT LOW INCOME PER SE, SECTION EIGHT, BUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH IS A, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT DESCRIPTION OF, UH, OF HOW THAT, HOW THAT'S PERCEIVED.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? TO MY RIGHT.
UH, QUESTION FROM MR. ABRAS? THANKS, JUDGE.
SO IT WAS EARLIER SAID THAT THE, UH, SEWER EASEMENT AND THE WATER EASEMENT WERE FLIPPED.
CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT? OR FLIPPED? YEAH.
THAT IT WAS IN, UH, IDENTIFIED INCORRECTLY IN THE DRAWING.
WHO SAID THAT? I THINK THE GENTLEMAN BACK THERE WITH A, UH, BALL CAP, UH, A SURVEYOR OR, YEAH.
UH, NO, I, I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHO SAID THAT THEY WERE FLIPPED.
YEAH, THE GENTLEMAN BACK THERE.
UM, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHERE HE GOT THAT INFORMATION.
I GUESS I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION REALLY.
I MEAN, UH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THIS DRAWING HERE? YES.
I MEAN, I, WE CAN PUT THE SURVEY UP AND LOOK AT THE, THE SURVEY FIELD NOTE.
SO, UH, ANYTHING ELSE READ IT? YEAH, I, I MEAN I'VE BEEN STUDYING THIS THING FOR A YEAR NOW.
YEAH, I'M SORRY, I'M, I MEAN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT HIS POINT IS THAT THEY'RE FLIPPED, I GUESS, IS THE, I GUESS MR. ABRAMS, HOW ABOUT THIS? IF YOU HAD TO PICK BETWEEN THE ARCHITECTURAL ARCHITECTURAL SITE PLAN, THAT'S CONCEPTUAL ONLY, RIGHT? AND THE SURVEY, WHICH ONE WOULD YOU GO WITH? OF COURSE, THE SURVEY? YEAH.
THEY LOOK THE SAME TO ME AS PART OF THE, THE QUESTION.
SORRY, COMMISSIONER, WE DIDN'T MEAN TO JUMP ON YOUR QUESTIONING.
IN FACT, AND ANY EFFORTS, I'M SORRY.
YOU FINISH AND THEN I'LL, I'LL I'LL ANSWER
I JUST KIND OF, IF YOU COULD POINT THAT OUT FOR ME MM-HMM.
WHAT'S THE PROXIMITY BETWEEN THE TWO? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
UM, SO THE, THE, PROBABLY THE EASIEST WAY WOULD BE TO YEAH, TO PUT THAT ON.
AND CAN YOU, CAN YOU PUT THIS UP INSTEAD WITH THE, UH, WITH THE HIGHLIGHTED PIECE AND, UH, AS SHE'S PUTTING UP, SHE'S GONNA PUT THE ONE THAT I'VE GOT.
CAN YOU SEE THAT, MA'AM? CAN SHE SEE IT IN, UH, NO, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE FIELD NOTES.
WELL, LET'S PUT IT BACK UP THEN.
THAT WAY YOU'RE, WE'RE ALL LOOKING AT THE SAME THING.
UH, I WAS HOPING YOU'D BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT I'VE HIGHLIGHTED AND PARDON ME, MR. ABRAMS. YES, SIR.
BUT WHEN MR. ABRAMS USES THE LASER POINTER, IF WE CAN JUST GET THE MOUSE TO FOLLOW IT ON THE SCREEN, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
UH, I'LL, I'LL PREFACE WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY BY, UM, WE, WE HAD A, UH, ABOUT A THREE HOUR MEETING WITH THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, UH, IN THEIR OFFICE, UM MM-HMM.
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BUT THIS IS THE ORIGINAL ASAKIA AND THE WESTERN BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY.UH, BUT IT SHOWS UP WHENEVER YOU START TO LOOK AT THE PROPERTY THAT BASICALLY SAYS THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE HAS AN EASEMENT FROM THE CENTER LINE OF THE ASEC YET TO 30 FEET ON EITHER SIDE.
AND SO, UM, BECAUSE THERE WAS NOTHING ENTERED INTO, INTO RECORD, WE, WE COULDN'T FINALIZE THE SURVEY WHILE WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT WAS, WHAT, WHAT THE BOUNDARY LOOKED LIKE.
WE ALSO FOUND THAT THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE HAD PURCHASED A SCENIC EASEMENT THAT CUTS OFF THIS NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY.
WHEN WE ASKED THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, UH, WHAT THEIR RESTRICTIONS WOULD BE, THEY SAID TWO THINGS.
ONE IS THEY HAVE NO PLANS BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE SOME COLLABORATION DOWN THE ROAD WITH, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPER TO BUILD TRAILS.
THEY HAVE NO PLANS FOR ANYTHING FROM THE ASAKIA WEST.
IT'S CONSIDERED A BUFFER ZONE FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
UH, AND, AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING WITH IT.
SO, UM, AS FAR AS THE PROPERTY IS CONCERNED, FROM 30 FEET FROM THE ASAKIA TO THE EAST, THEY'RE NOT CONCERNED.
UM, WHAT WE DID TO ENSURE THAT AREA WAS PROTECTED, AND THE SELLER JUST SIGNED THIS, IS THE SELLER, SIGNED A QUIT CLAIM DEEDED FROM THE EDGE OF THE CEIA, 30 FEET IN, AND ESSENTIALLY QUIT, CLAIMED THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY TO THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE.
THE ONLY PERSON NOW WITH ANY OWNERSHIP STAKE IN THAT PIECE OF GROUND IS THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE THAT SOLIDIFIED THE WESTERN BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN THE BUYER SAID, OKAY, LET'S SET THIS.
THIS SCENIC EASEMENT IS ACTUALLY ENTERED IN RECORD AND HAS A, HAS A DOCUMENT, A PURCHASE DOCUMENT TO THE, UH, UH, TO THE OWN, THE SELLER OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THE BUYER, THE DEVELOPER SAID, OKAY, LET'S SET THE WESTERN BOUNDARY FROM THE EDGE OF THIS.
THE ASA QUIT CLAIM DEEDED ON THE NORTHERN PORTION HERE, UP TO THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY, THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE DEVELOPER'S PURCHASE IS NOW THE BEGINNING OF THE SCENIC EASEMENT.
AND THE SELLER, MR. GONZALEZ, IS RETAINING THIS TWO ACRES.
WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS IS THIS, THIS SCENIC EASEMENT RIGHT HERE RESTRICTS ANY MOVEMENT OVER, UNDER, UH, OR THROUGH.
AND SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, THIS TWO ACRES STILL RETAINED BY MR. GONZALEZ, UH, IS UNDEVELOPABLE.
UM, MY BUYER WILL, WILL PROVIDE HIM ACCESS TO THE EDGE OF THE SCENIC EASEMENT, UH, OBVIOUSLY, BUT, UH, THAT'S A, UH, A FURTHER DISCUSSION THAT MR. GONZALEZ WILL HAVE TO HAVE WITH THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW HE'S GOT, UH, TWO ACRES THAT HE CAN'T, THAT HE CAN'T USE BECAUSE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY DID HERE WHEN THEY BOUGHT THIS EASEMENT.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT EXPLAINS IT.
SO ALL OF THAT SAID AGAIN, AND I, AND I APOLOGIZE, IT'S JUST HARD FOR ME TO SEE, UH, WITH THIS.
SO THAT SAID, IF YOU HAVE YOUR SITE PLAN, IF YOU COULD MAYBE PUT THAT BACK UP.
SO NOW KIND OF IN THE SAME SUMMARY, IF YOU COULD POINT TO ME ON THE, YOUR SITE PLAN, KIND OF HOW FAR YOUR, I GUESS THAT'S YOUR ROAD OR PARKING WOULD BE FROM THAT, UH, END OF THAT 30 FOOT EASEMENT, HOW MUCH BUFFER SPACE IS THERE? SO, UH, PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, THIS AREA RIGHT HERE APPEARS TO BE THE CLOSEST.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A, UM, THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A VERY DRAFT PRELIMINARY DRAWING, SO I CAN'T TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, 10 FEET, 15 FEET, 20 FEET.
I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE, IT'LL BE OFF THE BOUNDARY.
UM, BECAUSE THIS'LL, THERE'LL, THERE'LL BE LIKELY A, YOU KNOW, A, A FENCE THAT GOES AROUND THE, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL, UM, OF SOME KIND, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY A SEE THROUGH.
BUT, UM, IT'LL BE A, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY THAT PEOPLE FEEL GOOD GOING AROUND.
UM, SO JUST A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS.
BE SURE I UNDERSTOOD YOU EARLIER.
SO RIGHT NOW YOU'RE AGREEABLE TO, UH, REDUCE IN DENSITY TO MF 25 WITH THAT AMENDMENT, AND YOU SAID THOUGH, HOWEVER, THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO CAP IN AT 380 UNITS.
UM, AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT DEVELOPER MIGHT BE WANTING OR WILLING TO PUT THAT INTO THESE RESTRICTIONS, I MEAN, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANOTHER PARTY HOLDING THAT, UM, THAT DOESN'T GIVE A WHOLE LOT OF ASSURANCE DOWN THE ROAD, THOSE CAN BE UNDONE.
SO WOULD THE APPLICANT BE WILLING TO TALK WITH MAYBE VIA CORONADO, UM, AS A STAKEHOLDER IN HOLDING SOME KIND OF COVENANTS WITH THOSE RESTRICTIONS? UH, I WOULD JUST, UM, I MEAN, IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT OF THE ZONING,
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BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M PUTTING OUT THERE FOR YOU BECAUSE THAT GIVES US A LITTLE ASSURANCE OF WHAT WE ARE AGREEING TO TODAY WILL, WILL BE AROUND, UH, WHEN THAT DEVELOPMENT ACTUALLY STARTS HAPPENING.SO, UH, THE DEVELOPERS IS DEFINITELY WILLING TO TALK TO VIA CORONADO.
I MEAN, IT, THE DEFINITION OF THEM AS A STAKEHOLDER IS QUESTIONABLE IN MY OPINION.
UM, HOWEVER, I DO UNDERSTAND, WELL, I THEY'RE IN THE DISTRICT, BUT PICK WHATEVER TERM YOU'D LIKE.
THEY WOULD BE A THIRD PARTY THERE.
AND, AND I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE SOME DISCUSSION ALONG THOSE LINES.
YEAH, HE, HE'S DEFINITELY WOULD.
'CAUSE I'LL TELL YOU, THE DEN, THE DENSITY AT THREE 80 STILL CAUSES ME A LITTLE CONCERN, BUT WITHOUT SOME KIND OF A, UM, LEGAL REQUIREMENT TO PREVENT GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT, I, I WOULD CERTAINLY BE OPPOSED TO THAT KIND OF DENSITY AT THAT SITE.
UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU.
BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE RIGHT? OKAY.
SECOND ROUND QUESTIONS ON THE LEFT.
SO WITH THE, UM, PROPOSED AMENDMENT, UH, BY THE APPLICANT, UH, THERE'S NO NEED FOR A MOTION, A MOTION TAKEN ON THIS ONE? NO, THERE'S NO NEED FOR A MOTION.
SO, BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE TO BRING IT BACK IN ORDER TO, UH, CONSIDER THE MF 25.
SO WITH THAT, UH, HOW DO WE PROCEED SINCE THERE'S NO MOTION, IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS AND THE CASE ENDS AND, UM, WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, TIMELINE, UH, BRINGING IT FORWARD, BUT WE WILL ADVERTISE IT FOR THE AMENDED ACREAGE OF 18.97 AT MF 25.
ALRIGHT, AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, YOU HAD A QUESTION? YES.
JUST IN LIGHT OF COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL'S, UM, DISCUSSION REGARDING THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS, UM, AND THE FACT THAT THIS IS A POTENTIAL, UM, PROPERTY THAT COULD BE ZONED I D Z, UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE FOR STAFF TO, UM, MAYBE LOOK AT THAT AS AN OPTION AS WELL, BECAUSE IF WE WERE TO DO I D Z, WOULDN'T, WOULD THERE BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO CAP IT AT A SPECIFIC UNIT COUNT? SO WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO SAY I D Z WITH USES FOR A 380 UNITS? YES, YOU COULD.
AND THAT WOULD RESTRICT THE ACT, THE, THE FINAL NUMBER OF THE UNITS AND THAT WOULD REMOVE THE NEED FOR THERE TO BE AN ATTORNEY REPRESENTING VIA CORONADO OR HAVING ANOTHER STAKEHOLDER INVOLVED.
THAT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS PROPERTY TO BE ZONED AND IT JUST TO BE ENFORCED BY THE CITY AND NOT HAVE ANOTHER THIRD PARTY INVOLVED.
THAT WAS MORE OF A STATEMENT THAN A QUESTION, SORRY.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON MY LEFT? SECOND ROUND RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS.
OKAY, SO COMMISSIONER FUENTES, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION OR NO MOTION? SO WE JUST, ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU.
WE'LL SEE YOU IN A, A COUPLE WEEKS.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD, UH, I BELIEVE WE'RE ON CASE OR ITEM 10 AND, UM, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS LEAVING THE MEETING AT, WHAT IS THAT? IS THAT TWO 20? OKAY.
MY NAME IS SINO ZAKO ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 10 IS LOCATED AT 90 30 W BLOCK ROAD GOING FROM C TWO TO C TWO S WITH A SPECIFIC USE FOR A CAR WASH WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 41 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR, 15 OPPOSED, AND 20 OPPOSED OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET.
THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM LAUREL HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND VILLA OF TWO OF TURTLE CREEK TOWN HOME ASSOCIATION IS IN OPPOSITION.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE MEDICAL CENTER AREA REGIONAL CENTER PLAN, AND IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED AS URBAN MIXED USE IN THE FUTURE LAND COMPONENT OF THE PLAN.
THE REQUESTED C TWO BASED ZONING DISTRICT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
THE EXISTING C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE
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ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.THE PROPOSED C TWO S COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS ALSO AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.
GIVEN THE PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT ALONG WARBUCK ROAD, THE PROPOSED REZONING MAINTAINS THE BASE C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND THE S SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION ALLOWS CONSIDERATION OF A CAR WASH WITH ANY NEEDED CONDITIONS SUCH AS HOURS OF OPERATION, LANDSCAPE BUFFERING, FENCING, AND OR TEMPORARY SIGN LIMITATIONS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT.
COMMISSIONER SIPES COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS DELANEY HANUKAH AND I WORK WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMONT.
WE ARE LOCATED AT 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE.
UM, YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 9 0 3 0 WBA ROAD AND IT IS APPROXIMATELY 1.5921 ACRES.
UM, THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY IN RELATIONS TO FREDERICKSBURG ROAD AND I 10.
AS YOU CAN SEE ALL ALONG WBA, THERE'S LOTS OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
NEXT ONE, UM, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED C TWO.
WE ARE REQUESTING A ZONING TO C TWO S WITH A SPECIFIC USE FOR A CAR WASH.
IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT LAND USE DESIGNATION AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
UM, THIS IS AN AERIAL IN RELATION TO THE TOWN HOMES OF TURTLE CREEK.
UM, THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
SO WE ORIGINALLY REACHED OUT TO THE TOWNHOMES ON OCTOBER 21ST.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY THEY WERE HAVING A SWITCH IN THEIR MANAGEMENT, SO WE WEREN'T ABLE TO CONNECT WITH THEM.
THEN WE REACHED OUT TO THEM ON NOVEMBER 10TH.
WE SENT THEM, UM, PHYSICAL LETTERS IN THE MAIL.
WE HEARD BACK FROM THEM ON DECEMBER 6TH, WHICH WAS A DAY BEFORE OUR FIRST ZONING COMMISSION.
UNFORTUNATELY, SINCE IT WAS A DAY BEFORE WE DECIDED TO ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE, UM, AT THAT MEETING, THIS WOULD ALLOW US SOME ADDITIONAL TIMES TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE TOWN HOMES.
UM, ON DECEMBER 10TH, WE HAD OUR FIRST IN-PERSON MEETING WITH THE TOWN HOMES ON DECEMBER 21ST, WE HAD OUR SECOND, SECOND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.
SINCE THIS WAS SO CLOSE TO THE HOLIDAYS, WE DECIDED TO ASK FOR ANOTHER CONTINUANCE TO ALLOW US TO HAVE THESE CONVER CONVERSATIONS WITH THE TOWN HOMES.
ON JANUARY 14TH, WE HAD OUR SECOND CONVERSATION WITH THE TOWN HOMES OF TURTLE CREEK.
UM, AT THAT TIME, OR, OH, SORRY,
UM, PRIOR TO THE JANUARY 14TH MEETING, THE TOWN HOMES WERE IN OPPOSITION.
UM, WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM AND WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM ALL THROUGHOUT CITY COUNCIL.
UM, I'LL GET INTO IT A LITTLE BIT MORE OF WHAT WE'VE TALKED WITH THEM ABOUT.
UM, BUT WE ARE HOPING TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM AND HOPEFULLY GET THEIR SUPPORT BY CITY COUNCIL.
UM, WE'RE HOPING TO ENTER INTO RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS WITH THEM.
AND AGAIN, I'LL, I'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE NEXT SLIDE.
UM, FOR THE SITE PLAN, I JUST WANTED TO FIRST, UM, COMMEND THE DEVELOPERS FOR HOW MANY TIMES THAT THEY HAVE REWORKED THE SITE PLAN TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT EVERY, ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS, UM, COMMENTS AND DESIRES ON WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, IF YOU CAN LOOK IN THE LEFT BOTTOM HAND CORNER, THERE'S THREE LARGE CIRCLES.
THOSE ARE THREE MATURE TREES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE PROPERTY.
THIS IS A BETTER PICTURE OF THEM.
THESE ARE THREE LIKE BEAUTIFUL TREES THAT ARE ALONG WARS BLOCK AND THE DEVELOPERS THINKS IT THINK IT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO KEEP THEM ON THE PROPERTY AND JUST KEEP THE NATURE, UM, THAT IS CURRENTLY THERE.
UM, GOING BACK TO THE SITE PLAN, IF YOU CAN LOOK ON THE BOTTOM PORTION AND ON THE RIGHT SIDE THERE IS A LARGE LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
THESE ARE THE AREAS THAT BORDER THE TOWN HOMES.
UM, SO THE DEVELOPERS THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO KEEP A LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
THIS IS ONE OF THE PORTIONS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH FOR THE, WITH THE TOWN HOMES, UM, TALKING ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF TREES THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND POTENTIALLY A FENCE.
UM, WE KNOW THAT SAN ANTONIO HAS A SIX FOOT FENCE REQUIREMENT.
SO WE, WE ARE HOPING TO GO TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT TO, UM, REQUEST A HIGHER FENCE FOR THIS AREA.
THERE WOULD BE A, UM, SOUND BUFFERING MATERIAL ADDED TO THE FENCE AS WELL AS A GREEN WALL ON THE PORTION THAT FACES THE TOWN HOMES.
ADDITIONALLY, ON THE SLIDE, IF YOU LOOK KIND OF BY THE TREES, THERE'S A SQUARE THAT SAYS FOUR VACUUMS. THAT IS THE MAIN VACUUM UNIT.
I'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, THE DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED US WITH A SOUND STUDY FOR THE VACUUMS. UM, THE CLOSEST HOUSE IS AROUND 200 FEET AWAY, SO THERE ISN'T A DECIBEL LIMIT FOR, OR THE DECIBEL SHOWING FOR HOW FAR THAT IS.
SO I'M JUST GONNA WORK WITH THE 25 FEET, UM, FROM THE CORNER OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS AROUND NINE DECIBELS.
UM, THAT IS AROUND A RUSSELL OF LEAVES.
UM, SO THAT'S RELATIVELY WHAT THEY WOULD HEAR.
UM, THIS READING IS SO LOW BECAUSE THE DEVELOPERS DID GO, UM, AND TAKE THE EXTRA MEASURES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HOUSING UNITS FOR THE VACUUMS WERE HOUSED IN A CI CINDER BLOCK BUILDING WITH STEEL DOORS IN A CONCRETE, UM, MADE OUT OF CONCRETE IN A METAL ROOF.
UM, THIS IS AGAIN, JUST A DECIBEL BREAKDOWN
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FOR YOU TO SEE, UM, WHAT THE DECIBELS BASICALLY EQUATE TO.UM, WE DON'T HAVE HAVE ONE FOR NINE DECIBELS, BUT WE DO HAVE ONE FOR 30, WHICH IS A WRESTLING OF LEAVES.
AND THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, THEY DID PROVIDE US WITH A SECOND SOUND STUDY TO GIVE A SOUND STUDY OF THE ACTUAL TUNNEL CAR WASH.
UM, WHICH IS THE WHITE OR THE WHITE RECTANGLE THAT YOU SEE THERE.
UM, AS LONG AS WELL AS ALL OF THE DECIBEL READINGS AROUND THERE.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DECIBEL READING FOR NUMBER TWO, IT IS AROUND 64 DECIBELS.
THIS STUDY IS NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE FENCE THAT WE WERE PROPOSING AS WELL AS THE, UM, TREES.
UM, AND THEN NEXT SLIDE, GOING BACK TO THE DECIBEL READINGS 60, UM, FOUR IS AROUND A NORMAL CONVERSATION, UM, JUST TO KIND OF, I KNOW THAT THIS IS, DECIBELS ARE KIND OF HARD TO UNDERSTAND, SO I DID A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH.
UM, AND IF YOU WERE IN YOUR HOME AND SOMEONE WAS MOWING YOUR GRASS, IT WOULD BE AROUND 90 DECIBELS.
AND THEN NEXT ONE, UM, THE PROPERTY IS ZONED C TWO CURRENTLY, UM, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THINGS LIKE A LIQUOR STORE, A POOL HALL, A JIFFY LUBE, A TIRE REPAIR OR A LOAN OFFICE.
UM, C TWO HAS A SIDE SETBACK OF 10 FEET AND A REAR SETBACK OF 30 FEET.
UM, GOING BACK TO THE SITE PLAN, OUR BUILDING HAS A REAR SETBACK OF AROUND 130 FEET AND A SIDE BACK SETBACK TO THE CLOSEST TOWN HOME OF AROUND 160 FEET.
THESE ARE A FEW RENDERINGS OF THE PROPERTY, UM, AND OF THE PROPOSED CAR WASH.
UM, IT IS VERY JUST CLEAN TUNNEL CAR WASH.
AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER VIEW OF THE TUNNEL CAR WASH.
UM, THEIR PROPOSED OP HOURS OF OPERATION ARE EIGHT TO EIGHT, MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.
UM, AND THEN ON SUNDAY NINE TO FIVE.
AND THEN I'M AVAILABLE BEFORE.
UM, STAFF, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, SIR? WE HAVE BOTH, UH, IN-PERSON AND VOICEMAILS.
AND JUST A REMINDER WHEN YOU COME TO THE FRONT TO GIVE NAME AND ADDRESS FIRST.
MY NAME IS JD STIMSON AND MY ADDRESS IS 8 9 0 7 ARANSAS BAY.
UH, PLEASE FORGIVE ME, I'M NOT A LAWYER.
THIS IS MY FIRST TIME TO BE IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS.
I ONLY FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT NEITHER OF YOU HAVE BITTEN ANYBODY YET.
SO, UM, I AM HERE AS A VOLUNTEER, UH, TO MY COMMUNITY.
UH, WE'VE HAD OTHER PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO JOIN, BUT WITH OMICRON AND, UH, PEOPLE BEING, UH, PARENT, THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO.
I DIDN'T CARE TO BE HERE BECAUSE OF OMICRON, BUT I AM HERE TO DO DUE DILIGENCE TO MY COMMUNITY.
UM, WE HAVE MET, UH, WITH THE LAWYERS OF THE APPLICANT TWICE NOW, AND WE'VE TAKEN THAT INFORMATION BACK TO ALL OF OUR HOMEOWNERS, UM, WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND, UH, UNFORTUNATELY NOBODY WANTS THIS.
UH, ONE OF THE MAIN ISSUES IS THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UM, MAP RIGHT THERE, THAT SECOND PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, IT EATS INTO OUR COMMUNITY AS OPPOSED TO ALL THE OTHER BUSINESSES, WHICH ARE OFF OF WURZ BACK, BUT THEY HAVE A FULL BACKYARD.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY THE BUILDERS DID NOT, WERE NOT ABLE TO BUY THAT LOT AT THIS TIME.
SO IT EATS INTO TWO, UH, EIGHT OF OUR UNITS.
IT RUNS ALONG THE WHOLE SIDE OF THE HOMES.
AND IN THAT BACK CIRCULAR AREA, THE CUL-DE-SAC, THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE OUR MEETINGS.
UM, WHEN WE'RE OUTSIDE, WE HAVE OUR TOOL SHED THERE, OUR MAILBOXES ARE THERE.
THAT'S WHERE OUR COMMUNITY COMES TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT ANY OF THE ISSUES GOING ON IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO WE COULDN'T IMAGINE IF THERE WAS, UH, A BUILDING SUCH AS A, A CAR WASH OUT THERE, UH, WITH ALL THE NOISE IT COULD PRODUCE.
THAT'S OUR BIGGEST FEAR BEING IN THE MEDICAL CENTER.
THE MAJORITY OF MY NEIGHBORS, UH, THEY WORK IN THE HOSPITALS.
THEY'RE NURSES, THEY'RE LAB TECHNICIANS.
THEY'RE WORKING SO MANY HOURS AND A LOT OF THEM WORK OVERNIGHT.
SO TO HAVE TO COME HOME AND EVEN THOUGH BUSINESS HOURS WOULD BE FROM EIGHT TO EIGHT, SOME PEOPLE, THAT'S WHEN THEY SLEEP.
SO THAT IS OUR BIGGEST CONCERN.
UM, WE DID SUBMIT TO, UH, DESPINA.
WE SUBMITTED, UH, A VIDEO THAT A WOMAN HAD SENT, UM, ABOUT THIS LOT JUST BEING MOWED.
IT GETS MOWED ONCE, UH, ONCE A MONTH FOR 30 MINUTES AND THE NOISE PRODUCED FROM THAT.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, PICTURES OF HOW SOME OF OUR HOMES HAVE ALSO BEEN FLOODED BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY SITS HIGHER UP.
SO EVEN BEGINNING OF OUR COMMUNITY ON ANOTHER STREET, YOU COULD SEE THIS ACTUAL BUILDING.
UM, AND WITH THE SLOPE, WE'RE AFRAID THAT IS IT GOING TO EXACERBATE ANY FURTHER PROBLEMS
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WITH THE FOUNDATION.WE ALREADY HAVE SOME HOMES FROM THE OTHER BUSINESSES WHERE THEY'RE, THEY'RE COMING APART.
SO THESE ARE ISSUES THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT.
BUT I WOULD SAY THAT, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE TRIED TO WORK WITH, UH, THE LAWYERS OF THE, THE APPLICANT, BUT IT'S JUST, IT, IT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WERE THERE TO LISTEN, BUT IT, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE, UH, THE, THE NOISE IS A BIG SCARY ISSUE FOR US.
WE COULDN'T IMAGINE LIKE BEING ABLE TO USE SLEEP OR USE OUR BACKYARDS WITH THE CONSTANT, UH, NOISE OF A VACUUM KILLINGER AND CAR WASH.
AND, UH, WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU OKAY.
UM, OH, AND IF I COULD NOTE THAT, UH, CHAIR BUS DEANTE HAS RETURNED TO THE MEETING AT TWO 30.
ANDREW RODRIGUEZ, VICE CHAIR SIPES.
ALRIGHT, MR. RODRIGUEZ, IF YOU WOULD I HEARING HELLO EVERYBODY AS, UH, JUDY AS, UH, JUDY MENTIONED, I'M NOT A, NOT A LAWYER.
I DIDN'T COME WITH A PRESENTATION OR A SLIDES TO SHOW YOU.
I'M ALSO A CONCERNED, UH, BOARD MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY, ANDREW RODRIGUEZ AT 89 13 A NCES BAY BEFORE I FORGET.
UM, SO, UH, UNFORTUNATELY, UH, WE WERE APPROACHED WITH THIS, UH, PROPOSITION FOR THE LOT BEHIND US TO BE A CAR WASH.
UM, UH, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO BE NEUTRAL SINCE THE BEGINNING TO, AND THE MEETINGS WITH THE APPLICANT.
BUT, UH, WE'VE BEEN SHARING AS MENTIONED WITH ALL THE HOMEOWNERS, AND THERE'S JUST STILL DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A GOOD FIT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE MAJORITY VOTED FOR THE H O A TO OPPOSE IT AS WELL.
AND, UH, MAYBE THEY CAN TELL YOU TOO, THE STAFF THAT THEY HAVE, UH, SENT ALL THEIR INDIVIDUAL OPPOSITION LETTERS AS WELL.
UM, TO THIS POINT, I KNOW I'VE HEARD THAT EVERYBODY SAYS THAT WE WERE IN WORSE BACK OR THE, THE, THE CAR WASHES PROPOSED IS FOR HORSEBACK ROAD AND EVERYTHING.
THERE IS BUSINESSES, SO IT SHOULD BE A GOOD FIT, BUT THAT'S FINE AND ALL.
BUT LET'S REMEMBER, JUST BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE BACK DOESN'T, WE SHOULD NOT BE IGNORED.
WE HAVE A, A TOWN, A NICE TOWN HOME COMMUNITY.
UH, WE ALREADY DEAL WITH SOME OF THE HORSEBACK, UH, SOUND AND NOISE THAT ALREADY CREATES.
AND ADDING A CAR WASH WILL NOT HELP AT ALL.
THERE IS ALREADY 11 CAR WASHES WITHIN A TWO MILE RADIUS, NOT TO MENTION A ALREADY A CAR WASH TUB THREE DOORS DOWN FROM THIS POTENTIAL SITE.
UM, BEING A TOWN HOME, AS MENTIONED, MANY PEOPLE LIVE THERE FROM, UH, NURSES AND THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY.
SO WE ARE VERY CLOSE AND TIGHT COMMUNITY AND EVERYBODY HAS BEEN WITH COVID STEPPING ONTO THEIR SMALL BACKYARDS TO STEP AWAY FROM THINGS.
AND SO HAVING A CAR WASH AS WELL DOESN'T HELP THE SITUATION.
UM, I'M SURPRISED TO HEAR THE STAFF GIVING THEIR APPROVAL, BUT I GUESS, I GUESS THEY'RE ONLY GOING BY WHAT GENERALLY THEY KNOW.
BUT ONCE AGAIN, 50% OF THE 200 SQUARE FEET IS US, IS BASICALLY 30 HOMES OUT OF THE, ABOUT 30 HOMES MORE THAN, YOU KNOW, 50% OF OPPOSES SEND THE LETTERS IN.
AND OF COURSE, THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD ALSO SEND OPPOSITION LETTERS THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET, UH, AS MENTIONED BY THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS AS YOU DRIVE BY THE COMMUNITY, THIS POTENTIAL, UH, THIS, THIS POTENTIAL CAR WASH DOES SIT ABOVE US.
SO WE WILL LOOK AT IT, UH, AS WE DRIVE IN AFFECTING OUR PROPERTY VALUES AS WELL.
THE CONCERN ALSO THE, THE, THE, THE WATER WHEN, UH, RAIN OFF DOES COME OFF ONTO US BECAUSE EVERYBODY SEES ABOVE US.
AND SO THIS WILL ADD TO MORE FOUNDATION ISSUES THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING.
I'VE BEEN, I, THERE WERE, WERE SENT SOME, UH, THE STAFF WAS SENT SOME FIXTURES OF THE FOUNDATION ISSUES GOING ON AND, AND OF THE WATER RUNNING FROM THE BUSINESSES IN THE BACK, UH, OF US, THAT HAS NOT HELPED AT ALL.
I KNOW THERE'S SOME STUDIES THAT WERE PRESENTED, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, EVERYBODY SAYS THOSE ARE STUDIES.
UM, THEY ARE, IS THEIR FIRST CAR WASH TO BE ENGAGED, BEGIN WITH THEY DON'T HAVE A CAR WATCH ANYWHERE ELSE TO THEIR BRAND SO THAT WE COULDN'T GO SEE AND COMPARE TO.
THE STAFF WILL START PLAYING SOME VOICEMAILS FOR YOU NOW.
HI, THIS IS ANNA VICTORIA ORITA FROM 99 0 5 LORENZO BAY.
I HAD ALREADY SUBMITTED A SCANNED VOTE, BUT I GOT AN EMAIL SAYING THAT WE HAVE TO VOTE AGAIN.
I'M ASSUMING SO I VOTE NO FOR THE CAR WASH.
VICTORIA ORITA 89 0 5 A BAY VOTING NO FOR THE CAR WASH.
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YES.THIS IS SHERWOOD AND CONSTANCE ELLIS.
OUR ADDRESS IS FOUR ONE TWO SEVEN CAPANO BAY.
OUR PHONE NUMBER (210) 455-9250.
AND I'M CALLING ON THE ZONING CASE.
THE LAST CASE NUMBERS ARE 2 9 3 8.
IT'S ON THE CAR WASH AND I, WE WOULD LIKE TO VOTE NO AGAINST IT.
YES, THIS IS JANICE MANN, UH, J R M DESIGNS, L L C.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 857-4541.
AND I AM THE OWNER OF FIVE PROPERTIES AT TURTLE CREEK, UH, TOWNHOUSES.
AND UH, THE CASE NUMBER IS Z 2021 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 2 9 3 SS.
AND I AM OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE AND THE ADDRESSES OF MY PROPERTY.
CHARLES BAY, 41 43 COPANO BAY, 41 45 ST.
MY CELL PHONE NUMBER IS TWO ONE ZERO FIVE FOUR ZERO SEVEN TWO SEVEN.
AND THE OWNER OF PROPERTY 4 1 3 1 1 BAY.
I'M CALLING TO, UH, VOTE AGAINST THE CAR WASH, UH, UH, OPTION.
UH, SO THIS IS MY VOTE AGAINST, UH, THE, THE CAR WASH, UH, THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE, UH, PUT UP NEXT TO THE PROPERTY.
PLEASE LET NOTE KNOW OF ANY QUESTIONS.
MY PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 4 0 0 7 DE SAINT CHARLES BAY.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 232-5652.
I AM CALLING TO OPPOSE THE CAR WASH IN THE D BURG AREA.
AND THE VILLA OF TOTAL CREEK? UH, YES.
MY NAME IS RO OL AND I'M THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR AT, UH, 89 17 RENTA BAY.
AND I DO WANT TO STATE MY AGAINST VOTE ON THAT CAR WASH DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
UH, THE LADY TOLD ME THAT THAT NUMBER WOULD BE AUTOMATED, UH, TO MAKE THAT, UH, THAT, UM, UH, REQUEST, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, OF AGAINST THAT, THAT DEVELOPMENT.
BUT, UH, YOU NEED TO CALL ME BACK TO CONFIRM THAT.
DUDE, MY NUMBER'S 8 3 2 8 4 1 7 1 0 5.
AGAIN, I'M THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AT 89 17 ORAN BAY.
UM, MY ADDRESS IS 4 1 4 1 COPANO BAY, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS.
UM, ANYWAY, I LIVE AT THE VILLAS OF TURTLE CREEK AND I'M SO SORRY, I DON'T HAVE THE, THE ZONING NUMBER OR THE CASE NUMBER.
IT'S IN REGARDS TO A CAR WASH THAT'S BEING BUILT.
UM, REASONS FOR MY OPPOSITION ARE THE LOUD NOISE OF THE CAR AND VACUUM CLEANERS.
24 7 LIGHT POLLUTION WITH THE BRIGHT LIGHTS FLOODING INTO THE INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER'S BACKYARDS IN THE COMMUNITY.
TOXIC CHEMICALS USED BY THE CAR WASH THAT WILL BE EXPOSED TO 24 7 365 DAYS A YEAR.
LOSS OF PEACE AND QUIET IN OUR BACKGROUNDS.
UM, WE'VE BEEN PAYING PROPERTY TAXES FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS.
CAR WASH NEXT TO THEM AND THE BACKYARD'S COME USELESS, ESPECIALLY, UM, DUE TO THE COVID, YOU KNOW, WE WANT MORE OF A SANCTUARY FOR OUR BODY AND MIND, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO BE OUTSIDE AND THAT DECREASES.
WE'RE ALSO GONNA DECREASE OUR PROPERTY VALUE.
NO ONE WANTS A CAR WASH 10 FEET FROM THE SIDE OR BACK OF THEIR HOME OR HEART NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THERE'S AN UGLY SITE VIEW FROM THE TOP OF ST.
CHARLES BAY AS YOU DRIVE UP TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, MY NAME AGAIN IS ALI SHETI.
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BAY.I'M AT THE VILLAS OF TURTLE CREEK.
I'D LIKE TO REGISTER MY VOTE IF YOU NEED TO REACH ME.
MY NUMBER IS 2 1 0 3 8 5 2 6 1 2 2 1 0 3 8 5 2 6 1 2.
I'M A RESIDENT AT THE VILLAS OF TURTLE CREEK.
UH, MY ADDRESS IS FOUR ONE FIVE SEVEN ST.
MY PHONE NUMBER'S NOW ONE FIVE THREE EIGHT THREE FIVE EIGHT TWO ONE.
AND THE CASE NUMBER, UM, THE LAST DIGITS ARE 2 9 3 AND S UH, THIS IS REGARDING, UM, THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR A ZONING COMMISSION.
UM, I'D BASICALLY LIKE TO STATE MY OPPOSITION, UM, AGAINST THE, UH, CAR WASH THAT WANTS TO BE PUT NEAR THE, UM, COMMUNITY, UM, FOR SEVERAL REASONS, INCLUDING, UM, A LACK OF PRIVACY, UM, DECREASED HOME VALUE, UM, A CONCERN THAT THERE'S GONNA BE INCREASED CRIME, UH, DUE TO THIS BUSINESS BEING SO CLOSE BY.
UM, AND SEVERAL OTHER REASONS THAT I'M SURE HAVE BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE.
UH, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR THAT I AM CLEARLY IN OPPOSITION AGAINST THE, UM, THE CAR WASH BEING PUT IN THE, THE REGION SO CLOSE TO OUR, OUR, UH, COMMUNITY.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, THE APPLICANT.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, I JUST WANTED SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR THE COMMENTS.
UM, WE HAVE TAKEN, UM, OUR LAST TWO CONTINUANCES TO CONTINUE THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM.
UM, AND A LOT OF THESE CON UH, COMMENTS CAME WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS.
UM, WITH REGARDS TO THE SOUND, UM, WE HAVE ADDRESSED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, THE TWO SOUND STUDIES WE WILL BE PROVIDING BUFFERS.
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF STILL TALKING WITH THAT AND WOULD LOVE TO STILL WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THAT ALL FINALIZED BY CITY COUNCIL IN RESTRICTED COVENANTS, UM, AS WELL AS ATTACHED TO THE SITE PLAN SO THE CITY CAN ENFORCE WHAT, WHAT ALL IS IN, UM, THE BUFFER AS WELL, UM, FOR THE NOISE MITIGATION ON TOP OF THAT.
UM, ONE OF THE COOL THINGS ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS THE DEVELOPERS ARE USING THE NEWEST AND BEST, UM, LINES OF MATERIAL.
SO WE'LL HAVE THE BEST VACUUMS, THE QUIETEST VACUUMS, THE BEST ENCLOSURE FOR THE VACUUMS, UM, THE BEST T OR TUNNEL BLOW DRYERS AND EVERYTHING.
SO EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE USING WILL BE UP TO DATE AND QUIETER THAN WHAT IS USUALLY USED.
UM, I KNOW SOMEONE HAD MENTIONED THAT THEY, UH, AN INDIVIDUAL RECORDED A LAWNMOWER, UM, THAT IS AT 90 DECIBELS.
THIS WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN THAT.
UM, IN REGARDS TO DRAINAGE, KIMLEY HORNE, THE ENGINEER WORKING ON THE PROJECT DID PROVIDE A DRAINAGE MEMO BASICALLY STATING THAT THE DRAINAGE, UM, ON THE SITE WOULD NOT GET WORSE BY ANY MEANS, UM, EVEN WITH THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, UM, WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE CITY WILL HAVE, UM, A SAY AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY HAS A SAY BY IN INCLUDING THINGS IN THE, UM, INCLUDING THE BUFFERS AND, UM, TIMES OF OPERATION AND EVERYTHING IN THE SITE PLAN.
UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT EIGHT CASE COMMISSIONER ORTIZ TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
ACTUALLY YES, I THANK UH, I'D LIKE TO THANK MR. JD AND MS. RODRIGUEZ FOR COMING IN TODAY.
DELANEY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
UM, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ACTUALLY TO DELANEY.
UM, LET'S SEE, I THINK THE NEW MICROPHONES YOU JUST HAVE TO TAP ONCE, SO SOME OF THE MEMBERS HAD SOME QUESTIONS.
I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THOSE ADDRESSED JUST REGARDING THE RUNOFF, THE FLOODING, AND OF COURSE JUST THE LIGHTING.
I HEARD SOMEBODY MAKE, MAKE, MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT LIGHTING LATE AT NIGHT, IF IT'S GONNA BE TURNED OFF AFTER 8:00 PM OR HOW IS THAT GONNA BE ADDRESSED? UM, SO FOR LIGHTING, WE HAVE TALKED A LITTLE BIT WITH, UM, OUR GROUP AND I BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE GONNA DIMM THE LIGHTS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, NO ONE GETS IN THE PROPERTY AND JUST LIKE THE SAFETY OF THE PROPERTY, BUT THEY WILL BE DIMMED AFTER OPERATION.
UM, AND ALL OF THE LIGHTS WILL BE IN CO OR IN COMPLIANCE WITH CITY OF SAN ANTONIO CODE.
AND ALSO YOU DID MAKE A COMMENT EARLIER, SO AS FAR AS THE RESIDENCE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE VIEWING ANY OF THE, UH, I GUESS YOU'RE GONNA HAVE GREENAGE FOR THEM.
YES, SO WE WILL BE GOING TO, OR A PART OF, UM, THIS REQUEST IS THAT WE ARE HOPING TO GO TO BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT TO ASK FOR A VARIANCE FROM THE SIX FOOT HEIGHT OF FENCE TO INCREASE IT TO POTENTIALLY EIGHT FEET, 10 FEET.
UM, SO THAT IT HELPS ALLEVIATE THE VIEW OF THE, UM, CAR WASH AND ON THE SIDE THAT FACES THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE WILL BE IMPLEMENTING A GREEN, LIKE A GREEN WALL, UM, WITH IV OR SOME FORM OF SHRUBBERY THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HELPS CHOOSE.
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OKAY, THANK YOU.ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ORTIZ.
QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER SIPES, UH, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT AGAIN, SORRY.
UM, THE, YOUR FENCE THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING AT THE, UM, LET, LET'S JUST SAY THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S UP AGAINST THE, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IS THAT BEFORE OR AFTER WHERE THE BUFFER, THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER WENT? I, I MEAN, WHAT I'M MEAN IS, IS THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER AT THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE OR AT THE COMMERCIAL SIDE? YEAH, I, I THINK I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN.
UM, SO THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER WILL BE 15 FEET OF, UM, ORNAMENT TREES, UM, TOWARDS THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.
IT'LL BE CLOSEST TO THE CAR WASH AND THEN IT'LL BE THE FENCE AND THEN IT'LL BE THE GREEN FENCE.
UM, SO IT'LL GO ORNAMENT TREES, FENCE AND THEN GREEN FENCE AND THEN TOWN HOMES.
SO WE, WE JUST WANTED TO IMPLEMENT LOTS OF DIFFERENT FORMS OF BUFFERS, UM, SO THAT WE COULD ALLEVIATE ANY SOUND BEFORE IT HITS THE TOWN HOMES.
AND THEN THE, THE QUESTION I SORRY, I'M NO, YOU'RE GOOD.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF NOW.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S ALLOWABLE WITHIN THE CODE.
AND THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I GOT.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SIPES FURTHER QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER KAMATH, I HAVE ANOTHER SMALL QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
SO THIS UH, SITE PLAN THAT IS ON THE SCREEN NOW, UH, DOES IT COVER BOTH THE FRONT LOT AND THE BACK LOT? YES, IT DOES, IT DOES GO IN FOR BOTH THE FRONT LOT AND THE BACK LOT.
SO IN THE BACK LOT YOU HAVE THE VEHICLES COMING THROUGH AND GOING INTO THE TUNNEL, RIGHT? YES, THE, THE TUNNEL SHOULD BE ON THE FRONT LOT.
UM, THE BACK PORTION OF THE LOT IS BASICALLY WHERE THEY WOULD DRIVE, UM, INTO THE ACTUAL TUNNEL AND THEN EMPLOYEE PARKING.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KAMATH.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER'S ON MY RIGHT.
UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES.
UM, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
WE'VE HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, CONCERNS FOR, UM, WATER RUNOFF FROM YOUR PROPERTY ONTO THEIR ADJOINING SITE.
UM, AND I, I DO KNOW THAT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A SLOPE ON THAT PROPERTY, SO, UH, I CAN'T TELL FROM YOUR SITE PLAN, WHAT STEPS WILL YOU GUYS BE TAKING TO HELP, UH, PREVENT STORMWATER RUNOFF? UM, SO KIMLEY HORN HAS ADDRESSED IN, UH, THE DRAINAGE MEMO THAT WE WILL NOT BE INCREASING, UM, ANY RUNOFF BY ANY MEANS.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL BE ADDRESSING A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT IN THE PLATTING PROCESS WHERE THEY WILL GO THROUGH THE ACTUAL MECHANISMS OF HOW THEY WILL PREVENT DRAINAGE INCREASE.
UM, AS OF RIGHT NOW, I DO NOT HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU, BUT I WILL GET BACK WITH THEM AND SEE IF I CAN GET YOU AN ANSWER AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
AND I, I COULDN'T QUITE HEAR EARLIER.
I THINK Y'ALL HAVE ALREADY ANSWERED THIS QUESTION, BUT TELL ME AGAIN WHAT WERE THE HOURS OF OPERATION? UM, IT IS EIGHT TO EIGHT ON MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY AND THEN NINE TO FIVE ON SUNDAY.
AND UM, DOES THIS PARTICULAR CAR WASH HAVE, UH, I THINK YOU TALKED ABOUT EMPLOYEES, ARE THEY ON SITE DURING THE ENTIRE TIME OR ARE THEY JUST THERE UH, A DIFFERENT TIME? YES, THEY WILL BE ON SITE DURING UM, HOURS OF OPERATION.
OKAY, SO THEY'LL TAKE CARE OF TRASH PICKUP OR ANY ISSUES WITH FUNCTIONS IN THE MACHINE OR WHAT HAVE YOU? YES MA'AM.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS LEFT? YES, COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
UM, I DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR,
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UH, THIS GENTLEMAN.I'M SORRY, I FORGOT YOUR NAME, SIR.
COULD YOU, ALL RIGHT, REAL QUICK QUESTION.
UH, SO YOU SAID THAT UH, THE RESIDENTS CURRENTLY MEET, UH, TO THE WEST OF THAT CUL-DE-SAC.
UM, IS THAT IN THAT, IN THAT, UH, SECOND LOT? YES.
LIKE IF, IF YOU SEE THE CUL-DE-SAC RIGHT THERE, WE HAVE A GREEN BELT RIGHT ON THE LEFT HAND CORNER AND THAT'S WHERE OUR MAILBOX, OUR TOOL SHED, 'CAUSE WE, WE DO A, UH, WE LOAN OUT TOOLS, UH, FOR PEOPLE TO USE IN THEIR YARDS.
THAT'S WHERE WE NORMALLY MEET AT.
THAT'S, UH, ONE OF OUR ONLY OUTDOOR AREAS BECAUSE THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY WE WOULD BE IN OTHER PEOPLE'S FRONT YARDS.
AND RIGHT NOW WHEN YOU SEE THAT SECOND LOT, IT'S UM, THERE, THE JAPANESE FUJI RESTAURANT HAD A GARDEN, SO THERE IS A GARDEN THERE, SO IT ALLOWED FOR A BUFFER AND WHEN IT DOES RAIN, IT'S BEEN ABLE TO ABSORB THE WATER AND ALSO TO THE, UH, RESTAURANT IS ACTUALLY ON STILTS.
WHEN OUR OTHER NEIGHBORS TO THE LEFT OF THIS, WHEN THEY STARTED PAVING THEIR, UH, BACK LOTS, MAYBE SEVEN YEARS AGO, THAT'S WHEN ALL THE WATER WOULD RUN OVER INTO THE BACK OF OUR HOUSES.
AND WE HAVE PICTURES OF WATER THAT'S LIKE A FOOT HIGH AND IT'S TEARING AWAY FROM OUR FOUNDATIONS.
SO WE'RE CONCERNED THAT THIS BEING THE HIGHEST POINT, IT'S GOING TO AFFECT MORE OF OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE RIGHT NOW HALF OF IT IS BEING, UH, AFFECTED BY IT, BUT OBVIOUSLY THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAVE IT TO HAVE CARS DRIVE IN THAT AREA.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? TO MY LEFT, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, SEEING NONE, THIS IS A DISTRICT EIGHT CASE AGAIN.
UH, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ FOR MOTION OR POSSIBLE MOTION AND DISCUSSION PLEASE? I, YES.
UM, ONE COMMENT JUST TO MAKE SURE, AND JUST THESE, UH, SOME OF THESE ITEMS WILL BE ADDRESSED BY THE CITY COUNCIL HEARING? CORRECT.
AND WITH THAT SAID, I'M JUST GONNA GO AHEAD AND, UM, MAKE MY RECOMMENDATION.
I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND, AND RECOMMEND, UH, APPROVAL FOR, UH, ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
IS IT, I'M SORRY, I'M GONNA TURN OFF HERE.
THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ.
UH, IS THERE A SECOND? WE'LL SECOND THAT AND THERE IS A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARROS.
DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER SIPES? YEAH, THIS IS, THIS IS A, THIS IS AN INTERESTING CASE WHERE IT WOULD BE REALLY CLEAR CUT IF, IF NOT FOR THAT BACK LOT.
UM, I, I WOULD ASK PERHAPS FOR THE COMMISSIONER MAYBE TO OUTLINE A COUPLE CONDITIONS SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, UM, HOURS OF OPERATION, FRIENDLY AMENDMENT FOR HOURS OF OPERATION, JUST SO THAT THAT'S IN THE, IN THE, IN THE, IN THE CASE.
UM, UM, A MASON DEFENSE AND THAT THE LIGHTING IS, UH, DOWNWARD FACING AWAY, DIRECTED AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
ALRIGHT, THERE IS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, UH, AS TO HOURS OF OPERATION, WHICH I BELIEVE WERE STATED AS EIGHT TO EIGHT.
UH, A MASON REFE ALONG THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
IS THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT ACCEPTED? YES.
ACTUALLY I WAS GONNA MAKE COMMENT AS LONG AS THE LIGHTING IS FACING TOWARDS WBA AND NOT TOWARDS THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN THE CUL-DE-SAC.
UH, THAT, THAT, THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT IS ACCEPTED.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? YES, COMMISSIONER HU I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THIS, UH, MOTION BECAUSE AS I SEE IT, I BELIEVE, UH, THE RUNOFF IS GOING TO IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ADVERSELY.
AS I'M LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE SAYING THAT THEY CAN RUN OFF FROM THE, UH, PROPERTY NEXT ONTO THE, UH, THE LEFT OF THE, UH, PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
AND WHEN THE, UH, CAR WASH IS BUILT, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF PAVED SURFACES AND THAT WATER HAS TO GO SOMEPLACE.
SO, NO, I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
ALRIGHT, UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? LEFT RIGHT.
THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITIONS OF HOURS OF OPERATION EIGHT TO EIGHT,
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UH, MASONRY FENCE ON ALONG THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AND DOWNWARD FACING LIGHTING AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.WITH THAT MOTION IS BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARROS.
UM, ONCE AGAIN, UH, IF THERE IS A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION, UM, IT HAS TO BE MADE BY SOMEONE WHO VOTED AGAINST THE PREVIOUS MOTION.
UH, IN THIS CASE, THIS IS THE, SOUNDS LIKE THE THIRD TIME THIS HAS BEEN HERE.
SO IF THERE IS NO MOTION, IT CAN MOVE FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL WITH BEING DEEMED RECOMMENDED DIME.
SO IF SOMEONE WHO VOTED AGAINST THE PREVIOUS MOTION WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION, THEY CAN DO SO NOW, JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT.
DID COMMISSIONER SIPES ADDED THEIR ADDENDUM TO THE MOTION AND VOTED AGAINST IT OR DID I HEAR THAT RIGHT? YOU, YOU DID.
WE CAN, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT LATER.
UM, AND, AND IN FACT IT DIDN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
BUT NONETHELESS, IS THERE A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION? THIS IS THE SECOND CALL FOR SUCH A MOTION.
UM, IT IS DEEMED DENIED AND BECAUSE THIS WAS THE THIRD HEARING, IT'S DEEMED DENIED AND SENT ON TO CITY COUNCIL AS A DENIAL.
WE HAVE BEEN GOING FOR APPROXIMATELY TWO HOURS.
WE WILL TAKE A SHORT RECESS AND WE'LL RETURN AT APPROXIMATELY 3 0 5.
UH, AGAIN, IT IS 2 58 AND WE STAND IN RECESS.
THANK YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE TIME IS 3 0 6.
UH, THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO HAD BEEN IN RECESS.
UH, WE ARE ONCE AGAIN CONTINUING OUR PUBLIC HEARING WITH ITEM NUMBER 12.
MY NAME IS RICHARD BALTI VASQUEZ ZONING PLANET WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES CASE NUMBER 12 LOCATED AT 8 1 9 RE HIGHWAY GOING FROM R SIX TO C TWO CD WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE WITH ANIMAL AND PET SERVICES WITHOUT OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 19 NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE QUINTANA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THE EXISTING R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA AND THE C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS ALSO APPROPRIATE ZONING IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION ALONG THE RADO HIGHWAY.
THE PROPOSED C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR ANIMAL AND PET SERVICES.
TWO INTENSES FOR THE AREA AND NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO CONDITION DOWN A USE ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN AN L LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
STAFF RECOMMENDS IT NOW AND THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
UH, IF THE APPLICANT PLEASE COULD COME FORWARD AND TELL US ABOUT WHY YOU ARE SEEKING THIS REZONING REQUEST, UH, AFTER YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS.
GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, COMMISSIONING COMMISSION MEMBERS AND COMMISSION CHAIR BUSANTE.
MY NAME IS EDUARDO DILORETO WITH PARA AND COMPANY, UH, ADDRESS 1 1 0 EAST HOUSTON STREET, SEVENTH FLOOR.
UM, THE ZONING CHANGE IS BEING REQUESTED TO, UH, ALLOW, UH, OUR CLIENTS WHICH HAPPEN TO BE HERE, UM, IS RENA SOLOMON.
THEY, THEY OWN THE PET GROOMING SERVICES CALLED, UH, LUCKY DOG WASH WAGGING.
THEY STARTED, THEY ARE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS.
THEY STARTED FROM, UM, A, A, A VAN OFFERING PET SERVICES.
THEY WERE ABLE TO RENT THE PROPERTY AND THEN HARDLY TO TO, TO BUY IT.
AND AT THIS TIME THEY ARE, THEY'RE INVESTING JUST TO INCREASE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE CURRENT STORE, UH, AT THIS MOMENT.
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THEY ARE PLANNING AND THEY, THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE, THEIR DREAM AND THEIR PLAN TO EXPAND AND TO INVEST IN THE COMMUNITY AND, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.AND, AND BASICALLY THEY ARE ANTICIPATING TO, UH, ANY FURTHER FUTURE, FUTURE, UH, UM, EXPANSION OF THE BUSINESS.
UH, SO FAR, UH, AT THIS TIME, UM, THE, THE, THE PROPERTY WAS, UM, COMPOSED BY, UH, A PART, PART OF THE PORTION THAT WAS, UH, C THREE AND A, A, A PORTION THAT WAS RESIDENTIAL.
SO IT'S, IT'S, THE POSITION IS, UM, TO, TO HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL AND ALL THE LOT BEING ONE, ONE, UH, ZONING C TWO WITH SPECIFIC USE FOR OUTDOOR PET SERVICES.
AND, UM, UH, I, WELL WE DON'T NEED THIS SIDE PLAN RIGHT NOW, BUT, UM, BASICALLY, UH, WHAT WAS, UH, DISCUSSED AND, AND OF COURSE, UH, ALSO THE OWNER IS WILLING TO, TO, UH, COMPLY WITH ANY BUFFER THAT, UH, WILL BE REQUIRED BY THE CODE, BY THE U D C, BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND THE TWO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, UH, ADJACENT TO THE, TO THEIR LOT AND, UH, TO, UM, HAVE A FENCE, A SIX FOOT FENCE, YOU KNOW, SO SOLID FENCE, UH, TO, TO, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WOULD BE ANY ADDITIONAL NOISE, WHICH IS NOT EXPECTED AT THIS MOMENT.
SO IT, IT WILL BE KEPT AS, AS A PET GROOMING SERVICES ON THE CURRENT BUILDING.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE WE HAVE, UH, PICTURES OF THE, OF THE, OF THIS? YEAH, WELL, YEAH, EXACTLY.
THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD BE EXPANDED ABOUT, UH, FOUR OR 500 SQUARE FEET.
THAT'S, UH, THAT'S THE, THE CURRENT, UH, FACILITY, THE CURRENT, UH, BUILDING.
AND THE INTENT IS JUST TO, TO, TO EXPAND THAT OR FOR BETTER SERVICES AND THERE QUALITY.
THERE HAS NO BEEN, THERE HAS, THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY OPPOSITION TO THE, TO THE ZONING CHANGE.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH STAFF.
IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN EMAIL RECEIVED EARLIER THOUGH ABOUT ONE NOTICE WE RECEIVED IN FAVOR FROM A NEIGHBOR.
THIS IS A DISTRICT FOUR CASE COMMISSIONER KAMATH TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
I THINK, UH, THIS CASE HAD, UH, COME BEFORE US A FEW, UH, WEEKS AGO.
UH, IT'S, AND IT WAS, UH, AT THAT TIME APPROVED AND SENT, SENT UP, BUT I THINK IT'S COMING BACK AGAIN BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF DESIGNATION THEY WANTED WAS DIFFERENT.
SO THE APPLICANT HERE NOW IS PRESENTING US WITH A, AN APPLICATION TO HAVE THE ENTIRE, THE TRIANGULAR PROPERTY TO BE, UH, SOME OF IT TO BE DOWN ZONE, SOME IT, SOME OF IT TO BE UP ZONED TO C TWO.
UH, I BELIEVE IT IS THE APPROPRIATE, UH, CODE AND I, I REALLY, UH, DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I JUST WANT TO PASS IT ON TO THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CAYMAN.
UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.
COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT BESIDES COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? ANYONE? NO.
COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YEAH.
UM, WHAT EXACTLY IS THE CHANGE FROM THE PRIOR CASE? SO THIS CASE STARTED, AS YOU COULD SEE, IT HAS AN EARLY NUMBER ON IT.
IT'S LIKE 34 FROM BACK IN 2021.
AND SO AT THAT TIME THE APPLICANT HAD INDICATED THAT THEY WANTED TO REZONE THAT ENTIRE PIECE OF PROPERTY, BUT SOMEHOW IN THE CHANGES OF PLANNERS THROUGH THE WHOLE YEAR, BECAUSE WE HAD SO MUCH SWITCH OUT, IT BECAME A CONDITIONAL USE A C TWO CD FOR JUST THE R SIX PORTION.
THAT'S WHAT CAME TO YOU LAST TIME.
AND SO WHEN THAT WAS REALIZED AFTER THE MEETING THAT TIME WHERE IT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL, I SPOKE TO THE REPRESENTATIVE, MR. DILORETO AND TOLD HIM, WASN'T IT? THAT'S WHEN HE SAID, OH, IT'S THE WHOLE PROPERTY.
IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE JUST THE ONE PROPERTY.
SO AS A RESULT WE HAD TO RE NOTIFY REPUBLISH.
AND SO NOW THEY'RE TAKING THE ORIGINAL CONSOLIDATED APPROACH THAT THEY WANTED TO THIS
SO THEY'RE DOWN ZONING THE, THE C THREE TO C TWO AND THEN THE R SIX TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT TO C TWO.
AND THERE, THE SITE PLAN THAT'S HERE, THERE'VE BEEN NO OTHER CHANGES, CORRECT? CORRECT.
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THANK YOU.NOW I FEEL BAD ABOUT TRYING TO PREVENT YOUR QUESTION, UH, BUT TO BE CLEAR, UH, STAFF IN THE PREVIOUS ACTION THAT THIS COMMISSION TOOK, NOT THAT IT'S PRESIDENTIAL, NOT THAT IT'S BINDING ON US, BUT THAT CHANGE WAS APPROVED.
WELL IT IT DIDN'T MAKE IT TO COUNCIL BECAUSE IT DIDN'T MAKE IT TO COUNCIL BUT IT MADE, IT WAS RIGHT BECAUSE HE'S AMENDED.
WELL WE RECOMMENDED ARE BRINGING THE WHOLE THING BACK
BUT, BUT IN THE PREVIOUS ACTION BEFORE THIS COMMISSION, IT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL? CORRECT? FOR LOT THREE WAS EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS.
LOT THREE APPROVAL FOR A C TWO CD.
AND AGAIN, DOESN'T BIND US IN ANY WAY.
UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL QUESTIONS.
UM, I GUESS I, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT 'CAUSE I JUST, I WANNA UNDERSTAND, WHAT ARE YOUR HOURS OF OPERATION? EIGHT.
MONDAY TO SATURDAYS? YEAH, MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAYS.
AND YOU'RE CLOSED ON SUNDAY? CLOSED ON MONDAYS AND OPEN ON SUNDAYS.
OH, I'M SORRY, I MISUNDERSTOOD YOU.
SO NOW YOU'RE CLOSED ON MONDAY.
TUESDAY TO SUNDAY IS FROM NINE TO FOUR.
TUESDAY TO SUNDAY FROM NINE TO FOUR.
AND, UM, SO THIS IS A DOG GROOMING BUSINESS AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE LIKE A, IS THIS SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE A DOGGY DAYCARE? I I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR, WHAT YOUR BUSINESS IS BECAUSE YOU TALKED ABOUT DOING THIS OUT OF A VAN AND NOW YOU'RE MOVING INSIDE A STRUCTURE.
IS THAT, DO I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY? I WILL, I'LL LET THE OWNER RESPOND TO THAT.
WE STARTED OUT OF A VAN AND WE ENDED UP RENTING A SMALL BUILDING AND, UM, THE OWNERS FROM THAT BUILDING DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED TO SELL.
SO, UM, THEY WORKED WITH US ON SOME PLANNING AND WE WENT AHEAD AND BOUGHT THE PROPERTIES.
SO NOW WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO DO A LITTLE DOGGY BAKERY, A SMALL DOGGY BOUTIQUE AND THEN MOVE OUR GROOMING SECTION INTO THAT AREA.
SO I GUESS WE WANTED TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF, LIKE, IF PEOPLE CAN'T PICK UP THEIR BABIES EARLY ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN MOVE THEM INTO A SMALL LITTLE DAYCARE AREA.
BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S OVER AT FOUR
SO, I MEAN IT'S, WE'RE TRYING, IT'S VERY SMALL.
MS. CASTILLO, ALL ANIMALS HAVE TO BE PICKED UP BY THE END OF THE DAY.
YEAH, THERE'S, IT'S, THERE'S NO OVERNIGHT STAY.
UM, IT'S JUST, SO IF, UH, THEY'RE GONNA BE LONGER AND PICKING UP THEIR FUR BABIES FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM COMING HOME FROM WORK OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, WE'LL MOVE THEM OVER TO A SMALL LITTLE DAYCARE AREA INSTEAD OF KEEPING THEM, YOU KNOW, IN JUST A SMALL LITTLE CONTAINER UNTIL THEIR PARENTS COME HOME.
MS. CASTILLO, WOULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS? YES, MY NAME IS REYNA CASTILLO AND I'M AT 68 10 ELMWOOD CREST AND I AM HERE FOR THE EIGHT 19, UH, PEABODY
UM, DO YOU, CAN YOU GIVE ME AN IDEA OF HOW MANY, UM, FURRY BABIES YOU ANTICIPATE HAVING ON A DAY? UM, CURRENTLY WE ARE DOING ABOUT 15 TO 20 FUR BABIES.
UM, WE WANT TO EXPAND, BUT OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, UH, FINDING PEOPLE TO WORK RIGHT NOW IS REALLY HARD.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO HAVE OTHER OPTIONS FOR OUR, FOR PARENTS TO, YOU KNOW, BUY COOKIES FOR THEM OR TAKE THEM HOME IN A LITTLE OUTFIT.
AND SO BASICALLY WE JUST WANNA GROW A LITTLE BIT AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON FROM THERE AND SEE HOW IT GOES.
AND, UM, I THINK I UNDERSTOOD JUST, BUT TO BE CLEAR, ARE YOU, YOU ARE WILLING TO PUT IN PRIVACY FENCING? UM, THERE IS, YES.
WE WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH THAT, A PRIVACY FENCE, ALTHOUGH NOISE SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE WE ARE ADDING THE BIGGER BUILDING TO MOVE US OVER INTO THAT BUILDING FROM WHERE WE'RE AT NOW.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE, OUR BUILDING IS ABOUT 700 SQUARE FEET, SO WE'RE VERY, VERY SMALL AND IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO, FOR US TO MOVE AROUND SOME, WE NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM PROBLEM.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN THAT'S, IT'S JUST BETTER FOR THE BABIES AND IT'S BETTER FOR US.
UM, HAVE YOU VISITED WITH ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE STREET? OH YES.
UM, WE ARE JUST, IF THEY HAVE, YEAH, WE SEE MOST OF THEIR DOGGIES, THEY'RE BASICALLY OUR MAIN CLIENTS.
THEY COME IN WITH THEIR BABIES AND YOU KNOW, DROP 'EM OFF FOR A CLEANUP THERE.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
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YOU.I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER BOTTLES, UH, WAS NOT INDICATING HE HAD QUESTIONS.
UM, SO THE TIME WAS ABOUT THREE 17 STAFF.
CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT? THREE 17 AND COMMISSIONER BOTTLES HAS LEFT THE BUILDING.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, YOU INDICATED YOU HAD A QUESTION.
I HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UM, SO SHE INDICATED THEY'RE NOT DOING OVERNIGHT STAYS, BUT AS IT'S ZONED, COULD SOMEONE COME IN AND DO THAT? N NO, THAT'S AN, IT'S AN L USE.
SO THE WHOLE THING IS THAT THEY HAVE AN OUTDOOR COMPONENT.
THEY HAVE THE OUTDOOR PADDOCKS, WHICH IS WHY THEY NEED THE CD ON IT.
I JUST WANNA KNOW, CAN THEY DO THE OVERNIGHT BOARDING AS WELL AS A PART OF THIS ONLY WAY, UH, WAY THEY COULD DO IT IS TO BE AN ANIMAL CLINIC IN THE CURRENT C THREE AND THEN THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO IT AT ALL IN THE CURRENT R SIX, WHICH IS WHY THEY'RE TAKING THE CONSOLIDATED APPROACH TO THE OKAY.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMERS ON MY LEFT COM.
UH, THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER REJAS FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE STAFF.
UH, THIS IS ASSOCIATED, UH, PLAN AMENDMENT.
HAS THE PLAN AMENDMENT HAS BEEN, UH, DECIDED? YES, SIR.
THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL LAST WEEK.
FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONS ON MY RIGHT.
I GUESS, UH, CHRISTIE, UH, GOING BACK TO CLARIFY THEN, CAN WE CONDITION NO OVERNIGHT, UM, PETS NO OVERNIGHT STAYS, WHATEVER LANGUAGE FITS IT, IT CAN BE NO.
THE WAY KATT JUST EXPLAINED IT IS, IS IT'S LIKE HAVING A RESTAURANT SAYING YOU CAN HAVE A RESTAURANT BUT YOU CAN'T SELL FOOD.
SO, UM, UH, CONDITION THAT CAN'T BE A CONDITION OF THAT 'CAUSE IT'S ALREADY ALLOWED BY WRIGHT IN THAT, IN THAT USE IN THE ANIMAL AND PET SERVICES WITH OUTDOOR TRAINING, BOARDING RUNS, PENS, PADDOCKS.
ALRIGHT COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, I THINK YOU AND I HAVE THE SAME QUESTION.
CAN YOU CLARIFY THEN? SO THEN THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION WOULD BE THE REVERSE OF HOW IT WAS ANSWERED.
CAN WE HAVE OVERNIGHT STAYS RIGHT NOW IN AS THEY ARE WANTING TO REZONE FOR THE C TWO? SORRY, I DON'T KNOW IF MY QUESTION, MAYBE MY QUESTION WAS THE WAY THEY'RE WANTING TO REZONE YES, THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO IT THE WAY THAT IT IS RIGHT NOW.
THEY WOULD NOT AS, AS C THREE AND R SIX.
THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON THEY NEED TO REZONE.
SO NOW I HAVE A QUESTION WHICH IS, ALRIGHT.
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL ASKED IF WE COULD CONDITION AND SAY NO OVERNIGHT STAYS AND THE ANSWER WAS NO.
HOWEVER, IF WE WERE TO CONDITION AND SAY I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT LIMITING IT FROM EIGHT TO FOUR, UH, 'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S TOO LIMITED.
BUT SAY IF WE WERE TO SAY EIGHT TO EIGHT, UH, OR EIGHT TO SIX AND THAT IS A CON CONDITION AS TO THE HOURS OF OPERATION, THAT WOULD SEEM TO INDICATE THAT THEY COULDN'T BE BOARDING THE DOGS OVERNIGHT.
THAT THEY STILL WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT PART
HOURS OF OPERATION MEANS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE BUSINESS IS GONNA HAVE SOME SORT OF THING THAT THEY NEED TO DO AFTER THE PUBLIC,
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AFTER THE PART THAT THE PUBLIC IS CLOSED.WHETHER IT'S CLEANUP, WHETHER IT'S PREPARING FOR THE NEXT DAY HOURS OF OPERATION RESTRICTION DOES NOT MEAN LIGHTS OUT.
I THINK THAT CLARIFIES MY QUESTION.
I'M GIVING YOU ONE MORE QUESTION.
I'M SORRY, I'LL TRY TO MAKE THIS BRIEF AND CLEAR.
UM, COULD THERE BE A POTENTIAL TO, UM, PUT A CONDITION ON IT THAT THERE WOULD BE NO OUTDOOR USE OF PENS, PADDOCKS, ET CETERA, AFTER A CERTAIN TIME? IT'S THE SAME SITUATION WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, BECAUSE PART OF THIS USE DEFINITION ARE THOSE ACTIVITIES.
IT'S PART OF THAT ACTUAL ACTIVITY.
I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
UM,
WELL, UM, BUT THAT, SO I'M GONNA GO INTO SOME, I'M JUST GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS, UM,
SO IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN PROTECT THE HOMEOWNERS WHILE STILL ALLOWING THESE FOLKS TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO? OKAY, SO, UH, THE PLACEMENT OF WHERE THE OUTDOOR PENS AND PAD PADDOCKS ARE COULD BE A WAY TO WHERE IT'S NOT DIRECTLY ABUTTING, UH, RESIDENTIAL.
SO YOU COULD RESTRICT THAT ON THE SITE PLAN, BUT YOU CAN'T RESTRICT A, THE USE IS FOR OUTDOOR TRAINING, BOARDING RUNS, PENS OR PADDOCKS PERMITTED, AND THEN YOU CAN'T DO A CONDITION THAT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR OUTDOOR BOARDING AT A CERTAIN TIME.
SO WHY NOT? BECAUSE IF YOU'RE ALLOWING FOR A CAR SALES LOT IN C TWO, YOU'RE ALLOWING FOR THEM TO SELL CARS AND THEY COULD SELL CARS 24 HOURS A DAY.
I MEAN, USING THAT SAME LOGIC ON ANY OTHER CASE, WE WOULDN'T, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO EVER LIMIT HOURS OF OPERATION.
OUR, AGAIN, HOURS OF OPERATION ARE ABOUT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
BUT THE BUT THE BUT THE BOARDING WELL IS NOT AFTER A CERTAIN TIME.
IF YOU WERE TO DO, THEY HAVE TO CLOSE AT 8:00 PM THAT MEANS THE PUBLIC COULDN'T BE ABLE TO VISIT THEM AFTER EIGHT, BUT THEY WOULD STILL HAVE THE USE THE OPERATIONS, THE BOARDING AFTER 8:00 PM OKAY.
BUT SELLING CARS BY DEFINITION IS HAVING THE PUBLIC COME IN.
BUT IF YOU HAD A, UH, CONDITION ON HOURS OF OPERATION, THE PUBLIC COULDN'T COME IN AFTER 8:00 PM COMMISSIONER, TO CLARIFY, WE DON'T, AND I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT WE EVER WOULD REQUIRE THAT EVERY ONE OF THOSE VEHICLES WOULD HAVE TO BE REMOVED FROM A LOT.
THOSE VEHICLES STAY THERE, BUT THE OPERATION OF SELLING SOMETIMES REPAIRING, DEPENDING ON THE USE IS DURING THOSE HOURS OF OPERATION.
AND THE DOGS COULD STILL BE INSIDE, THEY COULD STILL HAVE AN OVERNIGHT STAY INSIDE WITHOUT BEING OUTDOORS.
SO IT DOESN'T NECESSITATE THAT THE DOGS BE OUTDOORS FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT AND HAVE THE OVERNIGHT STAY COMPONENT PART OF IT.
THE ISSUE IS THAT THIS PARTICULAR USE AS DEFINED ALLOWS FOR THE OUTDOOR BOARDING, THE RUNS, THE PADDOCKS.
AND WHEN AN APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A USE, THEY GET THE USE.
THERE ARE CERTAIN CONDITIONS THAT WE CAN PLACE ON IT.
THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS WHERE THOSE RUNS MIGHT BE LOCATED FURTHER AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL, THE FENCES, UH, BUFFERS.
THERE ARE ALLOWABLE CONDITIONS.
BUT TO ONLY GRANT HALF A USE, WE DON'T, IF THEY ASK FOR USE, IT'S EITHER APPROPRIATE OR IT'S NOT.
BUT AGAIN, BACK TO YOUR QUESTION IS HOW, WHAT CAN YOU DO? WHAT'S WITHIN YOUR, UH, PURVIEW IS THE LOCATION OF WHERE THOSE OUTDOOR RUNS OR THOSE, UH, THE BOARDING AREAS ARE.
THOSE COULD BE, UH, POSITIONED FURTHER AWAY FROM THOSE RESIDENTIAL USES.
I THINK I HAVE, I THINK I'M GONNA ASK ONE FINAL QUESTION AND I THINK I'M THEN SHUTTING IT DOWN.
ALRIGHT, SO THE USE IS AS GENERATED BY THE CODE IS ANIMAL AND PET SERVICES, CORRECT? YES.
AND IF I'M TO UNDERSTAND THE POSITION CORRECTLY, THAT THEN CONSISTS OF OUTDOOR TRAINING, BOARDING RUNS, PENS AND PADDOCKS? YES.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE APPLICANT NEEDS.
BUT THERE IS A USE IN OUR TABLE THAT IS JUST ANIMAL AND PET SERVICES THAT HAS NO COMPONENT OF OUTDOOR SERVICE.
SO IF THEY WANT OUTDOOR PET SERVICES, THE BOARDING COMES ALONG WITH IT,
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PERIOD.AND WE CAN'T STRIKE THE BOARDING.
HOPEFULLY THAT WAS CLARIFYING WAS TO ME.
UM, ALRIGHT, THAT BEING SAID, WE ARE NOW STOPPING QUESTIONS AND WE ARE GOING TO GO TO DISTRICT FOUR COMMISSIONER KAMATH FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE MOTION.
THE, UH, I THINK I'M FULLY UNDERSTANDING THIS CASE NOW THAT WE DISCUSSED IT SO MANY TIMES.
THE, UH, FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE COMMISSIONER'S CONCERN ABOUT THE, UH, BOARDING ISSUE, BUT THIS CASE HAS BEEN NOTICED, UH, TO ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS SO MANY TIMES.
I'M SURE SOMEBODY WOULD'VE RAISED, UH, ANY OPPOSITION.
SO FAR WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY OPPOSITION ON THIS CASE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE APPLICANT HAS ALREADY TOLD US THAT MOST OF THE NEIGHBORS COME AND BRING THEIR FOUR BABIES TO, UH, TO THIS PLACE.
SO I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION IF THERE IS NO OTHER, UH, DISCUSSIONS.
YEAH, I, I MAKE, I DO A RECOMMENDATION.
A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE ITEM, UH, 12, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT'S, UH, REZONING APPLICATION TO MAKE IT ALL INTO C TWO CD.
THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 12, IS THERE IS A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER'S TO MY LEFT.
OKAY, SO THIS IS OF A CAT KNOWS THIS IS A, A SIX IN MY CRAW, UM,
HOWEVER, GIVEN THE FACT THAT THIS CASE HAS BEEN NOTICED MULTIPLE TIMES, UM, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
BUT I DO THINK THAT CASES WHERE WE HAVE OUTDOOR DOG OR PET SERVICES DO NEED MAYBE MORE OUTREACH TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION BY THE ZONING COMMISSION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE COULD HAVE NEIGHBORS THAT IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE WITH A DIFFERENT OPERATOR COULD BE SUBJECT TO HAVING DOGS AND KENNELS OUTDOORS 24 HOURS A DAY.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT.
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
I, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION AND, AND MY QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO BOARDING WAS JUST TO MINIMIZE PERHAPS OVERNIGHT, UH, BARKING AND HAVE THAT BOARDING OCCUR OUTSIDE A FACILITY RATHER THAN INSIDE.
UM, BUT THAT SAID, I, I DON'T FIND THIS ANY LESS INTRUSIVE THAN AN AUTO MECHANIC SHOP GOING EVERY DAY, UH, THROUGH THE END OF THE NIGHT WITH, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF MECHANICAL NOISES HAPPENING.
I DON'T FIND THAT THAT'S ANY LESS INTRUSIVE THAN DOGS BARKING.
UM, I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHY STEP WAS, WAS OPPOSING IT.
UM, ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
TO THE APPLICANT, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO PLEASE BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
UH, CHECK WITH YOUR, YOUR NEIGHBORS TO BE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND.
DO WHAT YOU CAN AS FAR AS RE UH, MINIMIZING THE NOISE WITH YOUR FENCES AND THE PLACEMENT OF THOSE OUTDOOR RUNS.
UM, I WISH I HAD A BETTER MEMORY FOR MOBIE QUOTES 'CAUSE I WOULD QUOTE BILL MURRAY FROM GHOSTBUSTERS WITH DOGS AND CATS LIVING TOGETHER, UH, HUMAN SACRIFICE MASS HYSTERIA.
UM, BUT THAT BEING SAID, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 12 BY COMMISSIONER KAMATH WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
UH, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 15.
MY NAME IS SUMMER MCCANN'S ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 15 IS GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 10900TH BLOCK OF LORET DRIVE GOING FROM C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO C THREE S GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR AUTO PAINT AND BODY WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
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11 NOTICES MAILED ZERO RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE IS NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN AND IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED AS REGIONAL CENTER IN THE FUTURE LAND USE COMPONENT OF THE PLAN.
THE REQUESTED C THREE COMMERCIAL BASED ZONING DISTRICT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
THE EXISTING C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C THREE SS GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR AUTO PAINT AND BODY IS NOT APPROPRIATE AND INCONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE AREA.
THE NEIGHBORING COMMERCIALLY ZONED PROPERTIES ARE ENTIRELY USED AS BUSINESS AND OFFICE SPACE AND PROPO AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE OUT OF CHARACTER WITHIN THE ESTABLISHED USE PATTERN.
ADDITIONALLY, THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT APPROPRIATE GIVEN THE ABUTTING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. MCGANN.
AND IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHRISTENSEN.
PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, THREE 10 SOUTH ST.
UM, WE'VE GOT A LITTLE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION HERE.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED C THREE.
THE SS IS REQUIRED TO DO AUTO PAINT AND BODY.
UM, THIS IS OUR SITE PLAN AND CAN I ADJUST THE SLIDES OR YOU HAVE TO.
UM, NOW I UNDERSTAND STAFFS COMMUNITY NOW, AND THAT'S KIND OF A SURPRISE TO ME BECAUSE I KIND OF PRIDE MYSELF ON BEING ABLE TO LOOK ON WHAT A, WHAT A CLIENT WANTS AND WHAT THE SECTOR COMMUNITY PLAN IS AND, AND WHAT STAFF WILL RECOMMEND APPROVAL ON AND LOOKED AT.
THIS ONE, YOU KNOW, REGIONAL COMMERCIAL AUTO PAINT AND BODIES SHOULD BE FINE.
AND I WANNA SHOW YOU THIS CASE.
THIS IS A CASE I DID, UM, ON, WELL THIS IS THIS CASE.
UM, SO YOU JUST LOOK AT THE POINT DOWN THERE.
THEY SAY ADDITIONALLY PROPOSED USE IS NOT APPROPRIATE GIVING THE ABUTTING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
THERE ARE IS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX LOCATED NEXT DOOR.
UM, NUMBER FOUR, THE PROPOSED USE COULD POTENTIALLY BRING ADVERSE EFFECTS SUCH AS TRAFFIC TO NOISE.
HOW DOES THIS WORK? I FIX THAT.
UM, SO WE HAVE NO ACCESS TO HIGH TO I 10.
THERE'S A BIG DRAINAGE FEATURE RIGHT HERE.
WE HAVE ACCESS TO THIS, THIS STREET AND THIS IS A, A, UM, DRIVEWAY THAT ALLOWS US ACCESS TO I 10.
THIS, THIS IS THE APARTMENT COMPLEX RIGHT HERE.
UM, IT IS, I'VE BEEN TO THE SITE.
YOU'VE GOT THE, UH, ALAMO CITY MOTORPLEX, THE MOTORCYCLE DEALERSHIP UP HERE.
THERE'S ALMOST NOTHING WE COULD DO ON THIS SITE THAT'S NOISIER THAN I 10.
UM, THE EXISTING ZONING C THREE WOULD ALLOW US TO DO A NIGHTCLUB THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO DO AUTO REPAIR.
IT'S JUST THAT WE'RE DOING AUTO PAINT AND BODY THAT WE HAVE TO COME IN AND ASK FOR THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
AND I WOULD PUT IT TO YOU THAT REGULAR AUTO REPAIR IS MUCH NOISIER THAN AUTO PAINT AND BODY.
AND THIS IS THE CASE I DID LAST YEAR ON LOOP 1604.
AND ON THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY AUTO PAINT AND BODY IS TYPICALLY FOUND IN THE C THREE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION.
STAFF HAS NOT FOUND ANY INDICATION OF LIKELY ADVERSE EFFECTS IN THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY OR WELFARE.
NOW THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, I WAS MORE CONCERNED ABOUT, I HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BACK HERE, UM, AND I DID HAVE TO REACH OUT TO THEM, LET THEM KNOW WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, BUT IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME THAT BEING ADJACENT TO MULTIFAMILY GET THE NILE ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY.
WE GET RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR SITE PLAN, EVERYTHING IS INSIDE.
THIS IS ACTUALLY FOR A TESLA AUTO PAINT AND BODY.
UM, TESLAS ARE MADE OUT OF ALUMINUM.
ALUMINUM CARS HAVE A LOT OF CHALLENGES.
IT'S NOT YOUR NORMAL STEEL PAINT AND BODY WHERE YOU PULL THE FENDERS OUT AND PUT ON SOME BONDO AND SEND IT BACK OUT.
UH, TESLA HAS HAD A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THEIR CUSTOMERS COMPLAINING THAT THEY CANNOT GET MINOR FENDER BENDER DINGS ON THEIR CARS FIXED AT THE LOCAL AUTO PAINT AND BODY SHOPS.
THEY WANNA HAVE THEIR OWN, THEIR OWN LOCATION.
THEY ALSO, UM, THEY DO CERTIFIED CARS AFTER TWO OR THREE YEARS OFF A LEASE.
YOU, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY RE-CERTIFIED CARS AND THEY WANNA BE ABLE TO COME IN AND AND TOUCH UP THE PAINTING.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO STATE THAT AUTO PAINT AND BODY IS VERY HIGHLY REGULATED BY, UH, OSHA OCCUPATIONAL SELF AND HASTY SELF OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY AND HEALTH ADMINISTRATION, UH, T C E Q AND UH, THE E P A, I MEAN, SO NO NOXIOUS PAINT FUMES CAN BE EMITTED OUTSIDE.
EVERYTHING INSIDE HAS TO BE FILTERED FOR THE EMPLOYEES.
UM, AGAIN, OUR SITE PLAN, WE HAVE ALMOST 60 FEET BETWEEN THE BACK OF OUR BUILDING AND OUR PROPERTY LINES.
WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A BUFFER.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO SOME LANDSCAPING, UH, BACK THERE PER CODE.
UM, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS OUR ACCESS POINTS DOWN HERE.
SO THIS IS THE, THE WOULD BE THE NORTHEAST CORNER THAT, THAT'S THE MAIN ENTRYWAY.
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THE SOUTHERN VIEW.THOSE ARE THE TWO GARAGE BAYS.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR HERE TODAY.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU, UM, TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHAT WHAT'S ALLOWED WITH C THREE ZONING.
ACTUALLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS GONNA BE QUIETER THAN WHAT'S ALLOWED IN C THREE ZONING.
WE'RE ONLY HERE BECAUSE OF THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUIREMENT.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. CHRISTENSEN.
UM, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT STAFF? NO, SIR.
UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT EIGHT CASE.
COMMISSIONER ORTIZ TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
SHOULD DO, UM, I DO A, SHOULD I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? MR. PETERSON? THE YES SIR.
HAVE YOU HEARD BACK FROM THE FRIENDS OF CAMP BULLIS OR ANYTHING IN THE AREA? NO, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'RE PART OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA.
AND THEN STAFF, WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR YOUR DENIAL? LIKE, AS SHE PRESENTED THIS AREA HAS, UM, OFFICE USES AS WELL AS MULTIFAMILY AND OUR THOUGHT WAS HAVING A AUTO PATENT BODY THAT WOULD HAVE STORAGE OF CARS JUST RIGHT THERE OFF OF I 10 AS WELL AS ABUTTING THESE USES THAT WOULD SEE THAT IT WOULD, UH, LOOK, IT, IT WOULD BE COMPATIBLE.
AND WE DO RECOGNIZE HOW IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED AND WHAT USES, UH, COULD BE ALLOWED.
WE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO, UM, FURTHER, UM, CONTRIBUTE TO THAT WITH, UH, WITH THIS USE.
I HAVE NO MORE, NO MORE QUESTIONS.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? YES.
COMMISSIONER SIPES? UH, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR, FOR QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UM, WOULD THIS HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE, UH, LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE AND TREE ORDINANCE? WELL, HE, HE MAY HAVE ALREADY, UH, RESEARCHED THAT, BUT THE VESTED RIGHTS AS TO WHAT ORDINANCE, UH, OR YEAR THAT THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH USUALLY DOESN'T COME IN UNTIL AFTER, UH, THE ZONING.
IN OTHER WORDS, THEY HAVE TO DETERMINE CAN THEY DO THEIR USE, THEN THEY EXPLORE THAT.
BUT IF HE HAS, UH, LOOKED AT WHAT YEAR HE HAS TO COMPLY WITH, HE CAN COMMENT.
UM, THE PROPERTY DOESN'T HAVE ANY VESTED RIGHTS.
IT WAS, IT'S KIND OF SNAKE BIT.
IT WAS PLANTED IN THE EARLY EIGHTIES, BUT LITERALLY NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SIDE, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF TREES, BUT THEY'RE ALL KIND OF SCRUB BRUSH.
THERE'S NO BIG O HERITAGE JOKES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO WE'RE NOT TOO CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SIPES.
UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER? ON MY RIGHT.
UM, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? YES, COMMISSIONER.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THIS AS AUTO REPAIR AND THIS IS AUTO PAINT AND BODY.
AND I THINK I ASKED YOU THE QUESTIONS EARLIER, BUT FOR THE BENEFIT OF MY COLLEAGUES, UM, WE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE OLD DAYS WHERE WHAT YOU SAID YOU YANK OFF THE FENDERS, SLAP IT WITH MONDO, BEAT THE HECK OUT OF IRON FRAME OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
UM, THESE ARE ALUMINUM CHASSIS, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.
COMMISSIONER, I MEAN, I'M, I'M KIND OF A CAR NERD.
I CAN GO ON AND ON ABOUT THIS, BUT YEAH, SO TESLAS ARE NOT THE OLD CARS FROM THE FIFTIES AND SIXTIES THAT HAD A REALLY STRONG STEEL FRAME AND THEY WOULD JUST BOLT THE CAR ON TOP OF IT.
THEY'RE THEIR UNI BODY, SO THEY'RE THE ENTIRE CRUSH ZONE.
EVERYTHING IS MADE OUT OF ALUMINUM AS ARE THE FENDERS ON, ON AND THE DOORS.
UM, SO YEAH, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF HARD BANGING, HAMMERING, YOU KNOW, IF THE DOORS GOT A SIGNIFICANT DENT IN IT, THEY REPLACED THE DOOR AND THEY TOLD ME THE SAME THING WITH THE FENDERS.
THE FENDERS GOT A SIGNIFICANT DENT IN IT.
AND ON THE, ON THE CHASSIS, IF THE CHASSIS IS BENT, YOU KNOW, FROM AN ACCIDENT, THEY TOTAL THE CAR.
'CAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO TRY TO, ONCE IT'S BENT, YOU CAN NEVER BEND IT BACK CORRECTLY AND IT'S JUST A LI LI A LOT OF LIABILITY FOR THEM TO SEND A CAR BACK OUT THERE THAT'S NOT BEEN REPAIRED CORRECTLY.
AND WHAT WAS HOURS OF OPERATION BE? I BELIEVE IT'S EIGHT TO SIX OR SEVEN JUST FOR CUSTOMERS TO COME IN AND DROP OFF CARS.
I, I JUST DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
AND UM, THERE'S NO, I BELIEVE THERE'S NO OUTSIDE STORAGE HERE, BUT CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT ALL THE VEHICLES WILL BE STORED INSIDE? YEAH, VEHICLES WILL BE STORED INSIDE.
THERE MAY BE SOME EMPLOYEE PARKING OUTSIDE AND SOME CARS THAT ARE IN DECENT SHAPE WAITING TO BE PICKED UP, PARKED OUTSIDE, BUT THAT'S IT.
WE DON'T HAVE LIKE A FIELD OR A LOT FOR CARS TO SIT IN FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
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THANK YOU.COMMISSIONER MC, UM, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
MR. CHRISTENSEN, CAN YOU TELL US THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS AND ONE OF YOUR MODEL T'S OR YOUR MODEL T? HOW MUCH TIME YOU GOT? I'M JUST KIDDING.
COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE TO YOU.
RELEVANCE? NO, I'M JUST KIDDING.
NON GERMANE
UM, BECAUSE THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS PRESENTED IS THAT EVERYTHING IS TAKING PLACE INSIDE.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, IS THAT A CONDITION THAT YOU COULD PUT ON THIS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, UH, REPAIR? UM, YES, YOU CAN SAY ALL REPAIR WOULD BE INDOORS, UM, OR INSIDE A STRUCTURE, UH, YOU CAN LIMIT THAT.
UM, BECAUSE I MEAN, THERE'S STILL BE, THEY STILL WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO THE, THE OPERATION.
IT'S JUST WHETHER OR NOT IT'S IN A BUILDING OR NOT TO THE APPLICANT.
WE PLAN ON DOING EVERYTHING INSIDE.
THAT'S, SO THAT'S NOT A, AN ISSUE.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE FURTHER QUESTIONS.
SEEING NONE, UH, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE MOTION.
I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
UH, THERE IS A MOTION FOR THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HUE.
UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO INCLUDE THE CONDITION THAT ALL THE REPAIR TAKE PLACE INSIDE? Y YES.
I, I SECOND I'LL GO AHEAD AND DO THAT AS WELL AS LONG AS WE CAN HAVE ALL THE REPAIRS BEING DONE INSIDE AND OF COURSE JUST THEY'RE ALL TESLA.
EVERYTHING, EVERY VEHICLE THAT'S GONNA BE IN THERE IS GONNA BE A TESLA NO OTHER LIKE, SO YOU CANNOT MANUFACTURER CONDITION THAT TO A KIND OF CAR.
SO YEAH,
UM, ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER HU IS THAT ACCEPTABLE TO YOU AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? THAT IS AND I'D SECOND THAT.
UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? TO MY LEFT.
OH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, YOU ARE MUTED.
SO WE DID NOT, SORRY ABOUT THAT.
I WOULD ALSO OFFER ANOTHER FRIENDLY AMENDMENT REGARDING HOURS OF OPERATION.
UH, AND WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THAT BE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FROM EIGHT TO SEVEN WEEKDAYS.
AND ON SATURDAY MORNINGS, UH, LET'S SAY EIGHT TO THREE.
THERE IS ANOTHER, WOULD THAT BE AN ACCEPTABLE AMENDMENT? THERE'S ANOTHER FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
COMMISSIONER ORTIZ, IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? I DON'T KNOW.
I I WOULD RECOMMEND MAYBE FOUR O'CLOCK IF THAT WORKS.
I'LL FRIENDLY AMENDMENT WITH THAT.
WITH, WITH THE AMENDMENT BEING TO FOUR MS. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
COMMISSIONER WHEAT, IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? THAT'S ACCEPTABLE.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, THE, THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT THAT I HAVE IS THAT I DO UNDERSTAND STAFF'S POSITION ON THIS AND, AND I SUPPORT IT.
UH, I, I DON'T FIND THIS AN IDEAL LOCATION FOR THIS KIND OF BUSINESS, BUT IT'S NOT UP TO ME IF I WANT TO PURCHASE IT OR NOT.
UM, AND I DO GET CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IF TESLA CHANGES THEIR MINDS AND WE'VE ALLOWED JUST ANYBODY TO COME IN AND START A PAINT AND BODY, UH, COMPANY HERE.
BUT WITH THAT, GIVEN THAT WE COULD ALREADY DO AUTO REPAIR THERE TODAY, UM, UM, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION WITH THOSE AMENDMENTS.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.
THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION.
ALL OUR PRAYER WORK BEING DONE INSIDE HOURS OF OPERATION MONDAY, EIGHT TO SEVEN, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, EIGHT TO SEVEN.
ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HUI.
WE ARE MOVING ON NOW TO ITEM NUMBER 21.
SO HOURS OF OPERATION, DOES THAT MEAN THEY CAN'T ACTUALLY PAINT? I THINK THEY CAN PAINT.
MY NAME IS SINA MAKO ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT
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SERVICES.ITEM NUMBER 21 IS LOCATED 1804 WEST MAR GOING FROM C ONE TO C THREE WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 35 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR.
ZERO OPPOSED? THERE IS NO RESPONSE FROM WEST END HOPE AND ACTION.
NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND PROSPECT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOODS HOOD ASSOCIATION WERE IN SUPPORT.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN A NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMUNITY OR SECTOR PLAN.
THEREFORE, A FINDING OF CONSISTENCY IS BASED ON EXISTING AND SURROUNDING ZONING AND USES.
THE EXISTING C ONE LIKE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA GIVEN ITS PROXIMITY TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
THE CURRENT C ONE LIKE COMMERCIAL ALLOWS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD FRIENDLY BUSINESSES THAT ARE TO SCALE WITH THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL USES.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, IF THE APPLICANT COULD COME FORWARD, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROJECT.
HELLO, MY NAME IS VERONICA RIFFLE.
UM, THIS IS, UM, MY PARTNERS FOR THE PROPERTY.
THIS IS, UM, MELANIE MARTINEZ.
AND, UM, MY ADDRESS IS 79 18 OXBOW WAY.
AND WE'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF 1804, UM, WEST MARTIN STREET.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO REAL QUICK, THANK Y'ALL FOR, UM, STAYING SO LATE AND, UM, I GUESS Y'ALL SAVED THE BEST FOR LAST.
UM, WE'RE TRYING NOT TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME.
WE DID A SHORT, UM, POWERPOINT THAT WE'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU GUYS.
UM, BUT UM, ALSO WE JUST WANTED TO, UM, INTRODUCE OURSELVES.
SO I'M GONNA HAVE NATASHA JUST BRIEFLY GO OVER THE, UM, POWER THE POWERPOINT.
WE KNOW THAT WE WERE DENIED PREVIOUSLY FOR THE C UM, THREE.
AND WHEN WE DECIDED TO, TO, WITH THIS IDEA, WE DECIDED TO GO WITH THE C THREE.
'CAUSE THAT WAS KIND OF THE IDEAL IDEA.
BUT, UM, WE'RE HOPING THAT MAYBE WE CAN GET AMENDED TO MAYBE A C TWO CD IF, UM, Y'ALL, IF Y'ALL WOULD APPROVE THAT, WE WOULD BE REALLY GRATEFUL.
SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD, NATASHA.
UM, OUR PLACE WILL BE, UH, NAMED CHIEF LARA.
IT'S A PLACE TO COME AND SPOIL YOURSELF.
IT'S A FAMILY FRIENDLY, UH, COMMUNITY ORIENTED COCKTAIL BEER GARDEN.
UM, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GO FOR ON THE, THE WEST SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO.
UM, AND THEN VERONICA'S GONNA TALK MORE ABOUT US.
I WANTED TO JUST GIVE Y'ALL A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ABOUT US.
WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO OPEN UP A FEMALE OWNED BEER TAVERN.
I THINK WE HAVE A DIFFERENT VISION THAN, THAN SOMETIMES THAN MEN DO.
WE KIND OF TEND TO BEAUTIFY, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AND I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR BACKGROUND.
UM, BOTH OF THE GIRLS HERE PRESENTLY WORK AS BARTENDERS ON THE ST.
UM, MELANIE IS, UM, PART OWNER OF BUJO RIGHT NOW ON ST.
SHE IS PART OWNER WITH, UM, SOME OTHER PARTNERS.
AND, UM, TOGETHER WE ALL HAVE 37 YEARS OF COMBINED SERVICE IN THE BAR INDUSTRY.
I WAS A BARTENDER WAY BACK IN THE DAY ALSO WHEN I WAS IN MY EARLY YEARS, LIKE THE GIRLS, I'M A LITTLE BIT OLDER THAN THEM, BUT PRESENTLY I'M A POLICE OFFICER.
I'VE BEEN A POLICE OFFICER FOR 17 YEARS.
BUT BESIDES FROM JUST, UM, BEING OF SERVICE TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, I ALSO DO HAVE A PASSION FOR SERVICE.
SO, UM, THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE DECIDED TO KIND OF KICK OFF THIS IDEA.
UM, WE ALSO, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ALSO, MELANIE, LIKE I SAID, SHE'S UM, BEEN PART OWNER.
SHE'S PART OWNER THERE AT, UH, ON ST.
SO SHE HAS THE MANAGEMENT SKILLS BEHIND HER.
SHE'S BEEN DOING IT FOR A LONG TIME.
MY DAUGHTER, UM, IS NATASHA, JUST SO Y'ALL KNOW, THIS IS MY DAUGHTER.
SHE, UM, HAS A A, A BACHELOR'S DEGREE, UM, THERE AT UNIVERSITY INCARNATE WARD FOR A BACHELOR'S OF COMMUNICATIONS.
SO THAT ALSO HELPS, YOU KNOW, WITH, UM, JUST KIND OF, UM, THE, THE WHOLE SOCIAL MEDIA, THE, THE, THE IDEAS OF, OF OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH OUT, YOU KNOW.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS ME MYSELF.
I HAVE A MASTER'S OF PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION WITH A DUAL MASTER'S IN HOMELAND SECURITY AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
SO I JUST DIDN'T WANT Y'ALL TO THINK LIKE WE'RE JUST, HEY, THREE GIRLS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE JUST CAME WITH THIS IDEA, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WANNA OPEN UP THIS BAR.
YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE BEHIND US.
WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A VERY LONG TIME, LIKE I SAID, IN THE BAR INDUSTRY.
AND, UM, UM, BEING IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, I DO UNDERSTAND ABOUT SAFETY AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, COMPLIANCE AND NOISE AND ALL THOSE THINGS.
SO THAT IS JUST SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO TOUCH ON.
UM, SO, UM, I'VE BEEN WORKING FOR THE SAME BAR FOR EIGHT YEARS.
I ALSO WORK AT TWO OTHER BARS IN THE SAME COMPANY.
UM, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A COMMUNITY BASED PLACE, THESE ARE JUST PART, UM, JUST SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT I HAVE PUT TOGETHER FOR OUR COMMUNITY IN THE PAST YEAR
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DURING THE PANDEMIC.UM, IT'S, WE DO A LOT OF PLATE SALES FOR PEOPLE.
UM, ONE OF OUR FRIENDS, UH, WAS IN THE HOSPITAL.
WE'VE DONE, UM, WE'VE HOOKED UP WITH PLANNED PARENTHOOD.
UH, THEY'VE COME AND BROUGHT, YOU KNOW, UM, FEMALE SUPPLY STUFF FOR, FOR WOMEN.
UM, THESE, UH, PHOTOS RIGHT HERE WITH THE LADIES AT THE TOP AND THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE RIGHT.
UM, WE HAVE DONE, UH, LOCAL VENDING AND I KIND OF PUT IT AT ALTOGETHER THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, THROUGH, UM, PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, SELL THEIR STUFF.
I MEAN, THROUGH THE PANDEMIC WE REALLY LEARNED THAT, YOU KNOW, HUSTLING'S REALLY THE THING TO DO.
UM, SO PEOPLE THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, STARTED DOING THEIR OWN ART OR, YOU KNOW, UM, PHOTOGRAPHY, UH, JUST KIND OF ANYTHING CRAFTS IN GENERAL.
UM, I'VE OPENED UP A SPACE FOR THEM TO COME AND VEN AND MAKE MONEY ALSO.
UM, NOT ONLY THAT AND PLUS THE BAR THAT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, USING THE CELLS FROM PEOPLE COMING IN.
UM, UH, MY ALSO, UH, WE DO, UM, WE'VE DONE TOY DRIVES.
UH, WE, UH, FOR CHRISTMAS WE'RE REALLY BIG ON DOING TOUR DRIVES AT LIKE, THE PLACES I WORK JUST FOR UNDERPRIVILEGED PEOPLE, UNDERPRIVILEGED KIDS.
PLUS ON THE WEST SIDE A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TOYS.
AND THAT'S REALLY BIG ON FOR ME.
I LOVE TO DO THAT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, AND WHATEVER MELANIE WANTS TO KNOCK ON
OH, UH, YEAH, WE ARE JUST, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO FOCUS ON, YOU KNOW, BRINGING SOME REVENUE INTO THE WEST SIDE, UH, WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GET, YOU KNOW, THE ZONING PASSED.
SO, UH, THAT'S OUR MAIN MISSION.
I MEAN, WE WORK WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, RAISE MONEY AND WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA TRY TO GIVE BACK TO THAT COMMUNITY.
AND WE DON'T WANNA SCARE ALWAYS SAYING WE'RE GONNA OPEN A BAR, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE IT SOUNDS SCARY, BUT WE ALSO GIVE BACK AND WE DO A LOT OF EVENTS THAT HOPEFULLY WILL HELP OUT, YOU KNOW, DISTRICT FIVE.
SO, UM, SO ON THE LAST SLIDE, I'M JUST HOPING THAT, UM, THESE ARE SOME FUTURE STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE, WE'D LIKE TO WORK WITH.
UM, YOU KNOW, UM, LIKE PLANNED PARENTHOOD, THE FOOD BANK, BEING A POLICE OFFICER.
I HAVE WORKED WITH THE FOOD BANK IN THE PAST AND WE'VE DONE A LOT OF FOOD DRIVES DURING THIS PANDEMIC.
UM, I'VE WORKED WITH THE UT HEALTH ON DOING MAMMOGRAMS. YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL ABOUT BUILDING BRIDGES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, UM, GETTING TO KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE, AND THE NEEDS OF OUR DISTRICT.
AND I WORK ON THE WEST SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO.
I WORKED ON, I WORK ON DISTRICT SICK, I WORK ON WEST COMMERCE, SO I UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS THAT NEED TO BE MET ON, ON OUR SIDE OF TOWN.
THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE DO A LOT OF GIVING BACK.
UM, ALSO WITH THE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE SCHOOL SUPPLY DRIVES, IT'S REAL IMPORTANT.
I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN JACKET DRIVES, YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO GET JACKETS AND MITTENS FOR THE, UH, UH, UM, GLOVES FOR THE KIDS, UM, GIRLS INKS.
UM, I ALSO, UM, DO MENTORING FOR THE GIRL SCOUTS, YOU KNOW, SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS WE CAN BRING IN, YOU KNOW, TO OUR LITTLE PLACE.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT REAL HUGE, BUT, UM, IT'S, IT, IT'S A PLACE THAT WE CAN MAKE OUR OWN WHERE WE CAN.
WE HAVE A PARKING LOT AREA THERE WHERE WE CAN HAVE A, A LITTLE FOOD TRUCK AND, AND DO OUR LITTLE SET UP SOME UMBRELLAS.
I THINK THE IDEA WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY GO TO IS LIKE, KIND OF LIKE, LIKE GLORIA OR LIKE THE FRIENDLY SPOT WHERE YOU JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF UMBRELLAS AND HAVE A FOOD TRUCK AND SOME MUSIC AND, AND BE ABLE TO GIVE SOMETHING NICE BACK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON WEST MARTIN.
UM, WE HAVE LIFT FUND DOWN THE STREET, WHICH IS GOOD FOR US.
UM, WE HAVE THE FUNERAL HOME, RODRIGUEZ FUNERAL HOME.
WE HAVE THE GEL UP THE STREET, YOU KNOW, ABOUT MAYBE TWO MILES, YOU KNOW.
UM, SO THE CLOSEST TAVERN IS STILL A COUPLE OF MILES AWAY.
THE TIN BARN HAS BEEN THERE FOR OVER 20 SOMETHING YEARS.
WE ALSO HAVE, UM, UM, HYMAN'S PLACE.
HYMAN'S PLACE HAS BEEN OPEN ABOUT A YEAR, A YEAR, AND HE SEEMS TO BE DOING VERY WELL.
UM, HIS SPOT IS A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, BUT, UM, WE'RE JUST HOPING THAT WE CAN GET SOME SUPPORT MAYBE TO, TO, UM, FULFILL THIS LITTLE MISSION WE'RE ON IN THIS DREAM.
AFTER ALL, IT IS MARTIN LUTHER KING DREAM WEEK, SO WE CAN DREAM.
SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S TIME.
UM, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THANK THINK THEY MAY BE ALL THE ONES THAT SIGNED IN, BUT EXCEPT RUSSELL, RUSSELL FELLON, ARE Y'ALL DOING? RUSSELL DEAN FELLON 24 10 WEST COMMERCE, UM, ON THE BOARD OF THE PROSPECT HILL ASSOCIATION AND HAD BEEN GOING BY THE PROPERTY AND TO LOOK AT IT AND, AND SEE WHAT, WHAT EXACTLY THEY WANTED TO DO.
AND, UH, I, I THOUGHT I WAS LOOKING AT THE WRONG SITE IS REALLY THE SMALL, SMALLER ONE.
SO IT TURNS OUT THEY'RE BOTH CONNECTED.
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I THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY SMALL, BUT NOW THAT I KNOW IT'S BOTH OF 'EM CONNECTED, UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE A NICE LITTLE BAR THERE.AND I TALKED TO SOME OF THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS AT PROSPECT HILL AND THEY THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO TRY AND DO SOME MORE, UH, ACTIVITY ON WEST AVENUE.
MAJORITY OF WEST AVENUE BECAUSE THE CREEK AND EVERYTHING, AND OF COURSE THE AUTOMOTIVE, A LOT OF THOSE PROPERTIES STAY VACANT.
AND, UH, I THINK IT'S, I THINK WHAT THEY DID FOR CONSTRUCTION THERE LOOKS GOOD.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, UH, VOICEMAIL.
THIS IS MARIELLA GARZA AT 4 0 9 ARBOR PLACE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 7.
I REPRESENT GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT AND REGARDING CASE Z 20 21, 1 0 7 0 0 3 2 8 GARDENDALE STANDS WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL.
UH, WE WERE ABLE TO GO OUT, UM, AND DISCUSS THE ZONING, UH, REQUEST WITH SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THERE THAT, THAT WERE AVAILABLE.
UH, IN OUR FINDINGS, WE FOUND THAT SOME OF THE RENTERS WERE IN FAVOR.
WHILE THIS IS MARIELLA GARZA AT 4 0 9 ARBOR PLACE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 7, I REPRESENT GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCI AND DISCUSS THE ZONING, UH, REQUESTS WITH SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THERE THAT, THAT WERE AVAILABLE.
WE FOUND THAT SOME OF THE RENTERS WERE IN FAVOR WHILE HOMEOWNERS THAT HAVE LIVED IN THE COMMUNITY MANY YEARS.
UM, WERE NOT, UM, THEREFORE WE STAND WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
AND A POINT, UH, THAT WE FOUND IMPORTANT TO MENTION IS THAT THE MAP ZONING MAP, UH, PROVIDED FOR THE ZONING REQUEST SHOWS THAT, UH, THERE ARE STRUCTURES LISTED AS I ZONING.
THERE ARE HOMES, THERE IS GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND WE ARE AGAINST THE ZONING REQUEST.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. RIFFLE.
YOU CAN HAVE A BRIEF REBUTTAL.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE GARDENDALE IS, UM, AGAINST, AND, AND, AND I DO UNDERSTAND, UM, THAT IT'S KIND OF LIKE AN OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, I HAVE MYSELF AND SOME OF THE GIRLS HAVE BEEN THERE.
WE, WE, WE, WE'VE OWNED, WE'VE BEEN PAYING ON AN EMPTY BUILDING FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS AND WE HAVE MADE, UM, SOME RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE, ARE IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
AND THE ONES BEHIND ME, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE GONE TO TALK TO MR. CHAVEZ.
I HAVE A MAN ACROSS THE STREET WHO'S OUTTA WORK AND HAS BEEN COMING TO CUT THE GRASS FOR US.
YOU KNOW, SINCE WE HAVE FULL-TIME JOBS.
I THINK IF WE, IF WE ARE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A WALK OURSELVES, LAST WEEK IT WAS SO COLD WE COULDN'T GET OUT THERE.
THEY WEREN'T ANSWERING THE DOORS.
SO I THINK IF WE GO TALK AND, AND, UM, WE DELIVER, WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO? LIKE WE SAID, I THINK WHEN PEOPLE HERE TAVERN AND BAR, THEY THINK OF JUST A, IT'S, IT'S A SORE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT IS NOT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO BRING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'RE TRYING TO DO THINGS RIGHT, BE IN COMPLIANCE, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WHEN YOU OPEN A BAR YOU HAVE SECURITY, YOU KNOW, UM, THE PARKING THAT'S, THAT'S TO THE RIGHT.
WE ARE ALREADY IN, UM, COOPERATIVE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE OWNER WHO OWNS A LOT THERE.
THERE'S A REALLY BIG LOT THERE FOR PARKING WHO ALSO SAID HE WOULD ALLOW US TO PUT A DUMPSTER THERE IN THE BACK.
SO WE DO HAVE THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBOR SUPPORT.
WE JUST GOTTA WORK OUR WAY A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.
I HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN ABLE TO, TO, TO MAKE CONTACT WITH SOME OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS BESIDES TWO.
AND HE'S DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, AN AUTOMOTIVE SHOP.
HE'S THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, HE'S THERE TO SUPPORT US.
UM, AND THEY JUST OPENED UP A SNACK SHOP THAT WAS DOWN THE STREET.
UM, WE'RE JUST HOPING THAT MAYBE WE CAN, UM, GIVE THEM A DIFFERENT VISION.
UM, WE, WE DON'T WANNA BE YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD CANTINA.
I'M TRYING TO OPEN UP MORE LIKE A BEER GARDEN, SOMETHING NICER WITH SOME UMBRELLAS AND, AND DECORATE DICE AND, AND ALSO HAVE, UM, WHAT THEY CALL BUFFERS WITH THE, WITH THE NOISE BARRIERS.
I KNOW THAT I'VE DONE A LITTLE BIT OF HOMEWORK, YOU KNOW, WITH THE SIX FEET, WITH THE, WITH THE, I GUESS PUTTING UP FOR THE NOISE.
YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA GO UP FOR, FOR BUFFERS, KEEP THE NOISE DOWN
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AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO DO SOME RESTRICTIONS SO WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT TOO, YOU KNOW, UM, JUST SOMETHING THAT, THAT, THAT CAN GET US KNOWN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.CAN YOU REMIND ME OF THE COUNT REALLY QUICKLY ON THIS ONE? AND MR. RIFFEL, I'M GONNA ASK YOU A QUESTION IN ONE SECOND, SO IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK UP, THAT'S GREAT.
AND I'M SORRY, THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE, SO IT IS TO ME FOR QUESTIONS FIRST.
UM, IT'S 35 NOTICES WERE MAILED.
UM, NONE IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION.
GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED.
AND WE DIDN'T GET A RESPONSE FROM WESTIN HOPE IN ACTION OR PROSPECT HILL.
BUT MR. FELLON HERE REPRESENTS PROSPECT HILL.
UM, I THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DISCUSS, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF YOUR POTENTIAL, UH, AMENDMENT TO A CD.
UM, BUT YOU MENTIONED POSSIBLY REACHING OUT TO YOUR NEIGHBORS AND, AND DOING SOME BLOCK WALKING.
LET ME ASK YOU, DO YOU THINK YOU NEED TWO OR FOUR WEEKS TO ACCOMPLISH THAT? I THINK WE COULD GET THAT DONE IN TWO WEEKS.
I'M A I'M A TASK, I'M A TASKER.
I I WANT YOU TO ENDEAVOR TO DO YOUR BEST.
I THINK MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS KNOW WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS.
BUT ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT ACTUALLY HAD WINE.
WE, WE, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF, WE, WE DO.
EVERY EVENT THAT WE'VE HAD THAT WE SHOWED UP THERE, THERE'S BEEN A FOOD TRUCK AND THEY'RE ALL LOCAL.
'CAUSE WE'RE ALL TRYING TO HELP OUR NEIGHBOR, YOU KNOW, OUR NEIGHBORS MAKE MONEY ALSO.
AND WHAT ABOUT EMPLOYEES? HOW MANY, WHAT FOLKS YOU THINK YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO HIRE? THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A QUESTION FOR, FOR THE GIRLS.
UM, UH, DEPENDING REALLY ON, IT'S, IT'S A SMALLER BAR, SO I MEAN WE'RE BE, WE OBVIOUSLY WOULD OWN IT BUT ME AND MEL WOULD BOTH BE WORKING.
SO, UM, PROBABLY NO MORE THAN, I'M GONNA SAY NO MORE THAN EIGHT.
I MEAN, HIGH TUNES HAS FOUR
SO LIKE, PROBABLY NO MORE THAN EIGHT.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WHITE COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT.
DID WE LOSE COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL QUESTIONS FOR YOU? THANKS.
UM, MY USUAL QUESTIONS REGARDING THE BUSINESSES.
SO WHAT ARE YOUR PLANNED HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THE APPLICANT? UM, WE WOULD BE CLOSED MONDAY AND TUESDAYS 'CAUSE WE REALIZED THAT IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AND FROM WEDNESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY WE'D BE OPEN FROM 4:00 PM TO 2:00 AM AND THEN SATURDAY WOULD BE OPEN 11:00 AM TO TWO TO 2:00 AM AND SUNDAY WOULD BE OPEN FROM 11:00 AM TO 12:00 AM OOH,
UH, WE JUST PLAN ON DOING BRUNCHES DURING THE DAY.
SO YOU KIND OF GET YOUR PEOPLE DURING THE DAY AND THEN YOU KNOCK 'EM OUT BY NINE O'CLOCK AND THEN PEOPLE LEAVE.
UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU SO MUCH COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS LEFT RIGHT.
I MOVE FOR A CONTINUANCE TO FEBRUARY 1ST.
ALRIGHT, I'M GOING WITH COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE ON THIS ONE.
UM, THE IS FOR CONTINUANCE TO FEBRUARY 1ST.
UH, SO THAT YOU CAN DO SOME BLOCK WALKING.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTACT ME AND THE DISTRICT, UH, FIVE OFFICE TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE SPECIFIC HOUR ISSUES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UM, BUT WE CAN DO THAT AND WE CAN USE THAT TWO WEEKS PRODUCTIVELY.
DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT SEEING, UH, YEAH.
UM, SO I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF WORK GOING INTO IT AND I ALWAYS RESPECT AND ADMIRE FOLKS LIKE YOU THAT ARE WILLING TO PUT IN THAT WORK, TAKE THE RISK AND, AND START BUSINESSES LIKE THIS.
SO, UH, WORK OVER THE NEXT TWO WEEKS AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING Y'ALL BACK HERE.
WHITE COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT QUESTION OR I'M SORRY.
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL DISCUSSION.
UM, I ECHO COMMISSIONER WHITE.
I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE LADIES FOR THE VISION AND IF YOU CAN MAKE SOMETHING TRULY LIKE A FRIENDLY SPOT WHERE I THINK PEOPLE REALLY
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ENJOY GETTING TOGETHER, UH, NOT NECESSARILY THE TYPICAL, UH, NEGATIVE, UH, DRAW THAT BARS SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, GET AS THEIR, UH, REPUTATION.UM, AND I'D ALSO JUST LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR 17 YEARS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT SERVICE.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, THE MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE TO FEBRUARY 1ST BY ME.
A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN IN TWO WEEKS.
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ITEM ON OUR AGENDA FOR THE DAY IS, UH, THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR DECEMBER 21ST, 2021 MEETING, UH, ANY CORRECTIONS, AMENDMENTS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.UH, WITH RESPECT TO ITEM NUMBER 16, I BELIEVE THE NAME ASHLEY FAIRMONT WAS MISTAKENLY PUT DOWN AS ASHLEY HERRIMAN AND I BELIEVE THAT HAS BEEN CORRECTED.
SO IS THERE A MOTION WITH RESPECT TO THE MINUTES? MOTION TO APPROVE AS AMENDED.
THERE IS A MOTION TO APPROVE AS AMENDED.
MOTION TO APPROVE AS AMENDED BY COMMISSIONER S SIPES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
UM, WE CAN DO THIS BY ACCLIMATION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
CHAIR, CHAIR, PLEASE NOTE, PLEASE NOTE THAT I'M ABSTAINING SINCE I WAS NOT AVAILABLE AT THAT MEETING.
UH, MOTIONS ARE APPROVED WITH AN ABSTENTION BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
UH, ANY FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THIS COMMISSION? SEEING NONE, NO DIRECTOR'S REPORT OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
THE TIME IS FOUR 11 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.