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ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS JEREMY MCDONALD, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
WE ARE STARTING THE BUILDING RELATED FIRE CODES, APPEALS AND ADVISORY BOARD IN PERSON FOR THE FIRST TIME, I THINK IN A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS.
UH, TODAY IS JANUARY 20TH, 2022.
WE'LL CALL THE, UH, ABOUT THREE OR 1:10 PM TO START OFF, WE'LL DO THE, UH, SPANISH INTERPRETATION VIDEO, AND THEN THEY GO.
[Swear in New and Reappointed Members]
THE NEXT THING WE'RE GONNA DO IS HAVE THE OFFICE OF CITY CLERK GO AHEAD AND SWEAR IN OUR REAPPOINTMENTS AND OUR NEW MEMBERS.UH, SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION BEFORE WE START THAT.
I KNOW I ALREADY HAD A FEW PEOPLE ASK ME.
SO I KNOW WHEN WE WERE TALKING LAST YEAR, TRYING TO GET THIS PROCESS STARTED AND GETTING SOME NEW APPOINTMENTS AND REAPPOINTMENTS IN, WE WERE ASKING EVERYBODY TO REAPPOINT.
UH, REALLY WE'RE KINDA LIMITED TO A SIX YEAR, UH, TERM.
IT'S, IT'S THREE TERMS OF TWO YEARS FOR ALL COMMITTEE MEMBERS, SINCE WE HAVE SOME COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE, UH, WELL PAST THAT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ASKING TO BE REPLACING THEM AT THIS TIME.
THEN THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE WHAT WE CALL HOLDOVERS.
SO THEY WEREN'T REAPPOINTED BY COUNSEL.
THEY WEREN'T ON THE AGENDA ITEMS, AND THEY WON'T BE RE SWORN IN.
UH, THEY'RE KIND OF JUST, WHAT THEY ARE IS LIKE, IF I START GETTING, UM, REQUESTS FROM CITIZENS LOOKING TO REPLACE AND BE PART OF THE BOARD, WE NEED TO HONOR THAT.
I'LL BE WORKING WITH THE TRADE ORGANIZATIONS TO FIND REPLACEMENTS.
UH, BUT RIGHT NOW WE JUST DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A NEED.
Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED AND WILLING TO HELP WITH US, AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US.
AND WE WANNA KEEP OUR BOARD AS FULL AS WE CAN.
SO WE'RE GONNA KEEP ALL AT THE HOLD OVER FOR THE TIME BEING.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON THE SWEARING IN AND REAPPOINTMENT PROCESS? OKAY, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
UH, IS THIS ON? OKAY, NOW IT'S ON.
I'M THE INTERIM CITY CLERK, AND, UH, YOU'RE LUCKY TO HAVE THE CITY CLERK, BUT I'M LUCKY TO BE HERE.
I WANNA THANK ALL OF YOU FOR ALL OF THE SERVICE THAT YOU GIVE TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
UM, AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I'VE SWORN IN A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE.
I'VE ONLY SWORN IN A MAYOR PRO TIM, 'CAUSE I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE SINCE SEPTEMBER.
SO, I DO WANNA THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
WHAT YOU DO IS VERY IMPORTANT TO SAN ANTONIO AND OUR RESIDENTS.
UH, THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT BOARD.
YOU, YOU GUYS MAKE A LOT OF REALLY, UH, DIFFICULT AND IMPORTANT DECISIONS.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TO GIVE UP A LOT OF THINGS IN ORDER TO BE ON THIS BOARD, INCLUDING YOUR TIME AND POTENTIAL CONTRACTS.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.
I'M GONNA ASK THAT YOU, UH, FILL OUT THE FORM THAT YOU HAVE ON IN FRONT OF YOU.
UM, AND ALL I NEED YOU TO DO IS I NEED YOU TO SIGN AND DATE SIGNATURE OF OFFICER ON THE FIRST PAGE.
AND ON THE SECOND PAGE, YOU'RE ALSO THE OFFICER, UH, ON THAT ONE AS WELL.
AND I'M GONNA TAKE THOSE BACK AND I'M GONNA NOTARIZE ALL OF THEM.
ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS JUST ANYBODY THAT'S NOT IN HOLDOVER.
SO ANYBODY THAT JOINED IN 2018 AND, UH, IS A NEW APPOINTEE AS WELL.
SO, SCOTT, KAREN, EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE THE FORM IN FRONT OF THEM.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE A FORM, THEN YOU'RE NOT PART OF THIS.
SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND HAVE YOU, UM, GO THROUGH THE OATH.
SO WHAT I'D LIKE YOU ALL TO DO IS EVERYBODY RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND YOU'RE GONNA REPEAT AFTER ME.
DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM OR AFFIRM THAT I HAVE NOT DIRECTLY, NOT DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY.
PAID, OFFERED, PROMISED TO PAY, PAID, OFFERED, PROMISED TO PAY, CONTRIBUTED OR PROMISED TO CONTRIBUTE, CONTRIBUTED OR PROMISE TO CONTRIBUTED ANY MONEY OR THING OF VALUE.
OR PROMISED ANY PUBLIC OFFICE, OR PROMISED ANY OR OFFICE OR EMPLOYMENT OR EMPLOYMENT FOR THE GIVING OR WITHHOLDING FOR THE GIVING OR WITHHOLDING OF A VOTE AT THE ELECTION.
ELECTION AT WHICH I WAS ELECTED AT.
OR AS A REWARD OR AS A REWARD.
REWARD TO SECURE MY APPOINTMENT.
OR CONFIRMATION, WHICHEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
YOU WERE APPOINTED AND OFFICIAL, AND I'M GONNA COLLECT THESE DOCUMENTS FROM YOU.
AND JEREMY HAS COPIES, UM, THAT ARE BLANK
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THAT YOU'LL GET TO KEEP FOR, FOR YOUR INFORMATION.IF YOU WANT TO GET A COPY OF YOUR SWORN STATEMENT, JEREMY CAN GET THAT TO YOU.
'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA SCAN THOSE IN WHEN I GET BACK.
I'M NOT GONNA NOTARIZE 'EM ALL HERE.
I'M JUST GONNA TAKE 'EM BACK AND NOTARIZE ALL OF THEM.
I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
UM, YEAH, AND IF Y'ALL, ANYBODY THAT'S INTERESTED IN GETTING A COPY OF THAT ON THE NEW APPOINTEES OR REAPPOINTMENTS, I HAVE THEM.
AND WE CAN DO THAT AFTER THE MEETING TODAY.
UM, AND JUST AS A REMINDER, AFTER THE MEETING TODAY, WE DO HAVE ALL THE CODE BOOKS AS WELL.
UH, WE'LL WANT TO GRAB THOSE, BUT WE'LL ALSO WANNA SIGN OFF ON THOSE.
I ASK THAT EVERYBODY JUST DOUBLE CHECK.
MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THOSE 10 BOOKS AND THEN, UH, MAKE SURE YOU SIGN BEFORE YOU HEAD OUT.
ALL RIGHT, JACK, NOW THAT YOU'RE HERE, LET ME, UH, GET YOU A REAL QUICK RUN OF THE MINUTES.
SO YOU HAVE GOT AN IDEA OF THE SHOW.
OH, WELL THAT'S, UM, JACK, SO YOU KNOW CHRIS, CHRIS WAS FINE.
I, I KNOW THAT THIS IS, THIS IS JUST KIND OF THAT NORMAL, IT'S THE AGENDA, BUT THEN JUST, AND THEN ON THE ROLL ON BACK.
I'M GONNA START A ROLL CALL NOW THAT WE HAVE ALL THE NEW APPOINTEES,
I WANTED Y'ALL OUT HERE SO Y'ALL CAN KIND OF SEE THE SCREEN'S A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
UH, AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE DO HAVE SOME PRIMARIES AND ALTERNATES IN ATTENDANCE.
UH, SO JUST TO BE, MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE FOR THE VOTE.
UH, MARK BEUS, MICHAEL RUST, LIDDELL TOY.
BRIAN SMITH, WILLIAM BURRIS, AND JACK, UH, I'M SORRY, JACK MORRIS.
THE ONLY ONE HERE FOR HIS, UH, WE'LL BE THE, UH, VOTES ON THE POSITIONS THAT THEY HOLD.
THEIR ALTERNATES WILL NOT BE A, A VOTING ON ANY ITEMS TODAY.
UM, WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO JACK MOORE FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE.
AND JUST, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE THE, UH, FORMAT ON, ON READING THE STATEMENT, ET CETERA, UH, WITH WHAT I HAVE.
UH, YEAH, I DIDN'T DO THAT THIS TIME.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S, AND I DIDN'T MEMORIZE IT FROM ALL THE OTHER TIMES.
I I HAVE A WIRELESS ONE, THAT'S WHY I'M ON.
BUT, UH, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT, UH, YOU PUSH THE TALK ON YOUR MICROPHONE.
UM, WE, I WASN'T TOO WORRIED ABOUT IT ON THE ROLL CALL, BUT, UH, FOR ANYTHING MOVING FORWARD.
UH, BUT YEAH, SO REALLY IT WOULD JUST BE THE NORMAL, UH, MEETING CAN OPEN IT TO THE BOARD, UH, FOR TO VOTE MOTION A SECOND.
I DON'T, NOW, ONE QUESTION I WANNA ASK.
SO WE DO HAVE NEW APPOINTEES THAT WEREN'T HERE DURING THAT.
SHOULD THEY BE ABSTAINING OR SHOULD WE DO ANYTHING? IT'S ON.
YEAH, IT'S, THEY CAN VOTE COLLECTIVE OR THEY CAN ABSTAIN THE MONEY.
SO IT'S UP TO ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED TO DO A ROLL CALL, VOTE ON THAT.
BUT IF, YOU KNOW, I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO THE BOARD ON HOW THEY WANNA HANDLE THAT.
BUT ANYBODY THAT WAS NOT A MEMBER, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO VOTE.
UH, OR THEY CAN ABSTAIN, UM, FROM THERE.
[Approval of Minutes]
ON THE AGENDA WAS THE APPROVAL OF THE, UH, MINUTES FROM JULY 12TH OF 2 20 21.AND IF EVERYBODY DOESN'T HAVE A COPY OR IF, UH, EITHER WAY, I NEED TO GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FROM JULY 12TH, 2021.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM JULY 12TH, 2021.
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ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.DO WE NEED TO DO A ROLL CALL? OKAY.
THAT'S ONE OF THE VERY NICE PASSES.
THINGS ABOUT COMING BACK IN PERSON IS WE CAN START DOING THAT MORE OFTEN.
[2. Vote to appoint a new Chair and reappoint or appoint a new Co-Chair]
ON THE AGENDA WAS TO VO VOTE TO APPOINT A NEW CHAIR AND, UH, APPOINT OR REAPPOINT A CO-CHAIR.SO I GUESS THE FORMALITY AT THIS TIME IS TO TAKE OPEN FLOOR NOMINATIONS.
DO I HAVE ANY NOMINATIONS? UH, LET'S DO CHAIR FIRST AND THEN WE CAN DO CO-CHAIR SECOND, I SUPPOSE.
I NOMINATE JACK UP MORE TO BE CHAIR BRIAN.
I TRIED TO BE LATE ON PURPOSE.
DO WE NEED TO DO THAT BY ROLL CALL OR CAN WE DO THAT BY, YOU NEED TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER, UM, NOMINATIONS FIRST.
IF THERE'S NONE, THEN FOR A VOTE CORRECT PROCEDURE.
SO WE HAVE, UH, I SUPPOSE A MOTION TO APPOINT YOUR CO-CHAIR TO NOW CHAIR AND LIKE TO, UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY DISCUSSION? GET HERE ON TIME.
UH, ONCE AGAIN, SO THAT WAS MR. HENLEY AS THE PRIMARY AND BRIAN SMITH AS THE SECONDARY OF THE, FOR THAT MOTION.
I NOMINATE MIKE RUS AS THE, UH, NEW CO-CHAIR.
ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR A CO-CHAIR? CHICKEN.
ALL IN FAVOR OF MIKE RUS, OUR CO-CHAIR.
MOTION CARRIES FOR CHAIR AND CO-CHAIR.
IS THAT ALL WE NEED? WE DO FOR THAT EVENT? NO.
UH, I'M, I'M GOING SUBLIMINALLY READ YOU THE CHAIRMAN'S STATEMENT, SO JUST FEEL IT 'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE IT.
WELL, THERE THIS IS, THIS IS, IF THERE IS ONE, THERE IS NO RING.
IT IS MORE OF IF, IF IT YOUR HAD SOMETHING.
[3. Staff will present the 2021 Code Adoption process and proposed schedule to the board]
ITEM NUMBER THREE TO STAFF TO PRESENT ON THE 2021 CODE ADOPTION PROCESS.UH, ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS JEREMY MCDONALD, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
UH, ONCE AGAIN, OH, I'M, I'M MONDAY.
UM, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY BEING HERE.
BOTH, UH, PRIMARY AND ALTERNATES.
I KNOW IT'S KIND OF A FULL HOUSE, BUT, UH, I'D LIKE TO GET THROUGH THIS.
UH, I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND WE HAVE SOME NEW APPOINTEES TO THE BOARD AND, UH, SOME BOARD MEMBERS THAT WEREN'T HERE FOR THE LAST CODE CYCLE AS WELL.
UH, I DO WANNA PREFACE IT A LITTLE BIT.
UH, SO CITY'S COUNCIL CITY AS A WHOLE, THEY'RE REALLY PUSHING FOR PUBLIC INPUT, UH, MAKING SURE THAT WE MAKE EVERYTHING AS OPEN AS POSSIBLE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT WE RUN ON OPEN MEETINGS, UH, AND WE POST EVERYTHING WITHIN 72 HOURS, UH, TO LET OUR, WELL NOW PRIME GOV AND S A SPEAK UP AND AS THEY SPEAK UP.
UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF THE BARE MINIMUM.
THE GOAL IS TO REALLY BE AS, UH, TRANSPARENT WITH ALL OUR MEETINGS AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AS POSSIBLE.
UH, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I REACHED OUT TO EVERYBODY, ASKED TO KIND OF SEE WHAT WAS Y'ALL'S MOST AVAILABLE TIMES THROUGHOUT THE WEEK.
AND THE GOAL IS TO KIND OF SAY, LOOK, WE'RE GONNA MEET WEEKLY AND WE'RE GONNA MEET THE SAME TIME EVERY WEEK.
UH, AND THAT WAY WE CAN PUT THAT OUT THERE ON THE, ON THE, ON OUR WEBSITE.
NOW, HAVE EVERYBODY BE AWARE OF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT THESE CODES THESE WEEKS.
WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT THE NEXT CODES THESE WEEKS.
AND, UH, SO THAT THERE IS NO QUESTION OF, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE JUST, YOU KNOW, SNUCK SOMETHING IN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WE, WE WANT TO TRY TO, WHILE THAT'S NEVER BEEN AN ISSUE, UH, WE JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, BE AS TRANSPARENT AS WE CAN.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, WE UNDERSTAND WE'RE DEALING WITH PROFESSIONALS THAT HAVE A LOT GOING ON.
UH, IF THINGS NEED TO MOVE, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA TRY TO LIMIT THAT, MAKE THAT THE EXCEPTION, NOT THE RULE, BUT IF WE NEED TO, WE CAN, AS LONG AS WE'RE STILL MEETING THE 72 HOUR MINIMUM, UM, PUBLIC TO, UH, ANNOUNCEMENT TO THE PUBLIC.
BUT WE'LL TRY TO DO THAT MORE IN ADVANCE TO KIND OF A, AS WE GET CLOSER TO NEEDING A NEW COMMITTEE TO COME IN, IF WE NEED TO SHIFT IT FROM A THURSDAY TO A TUESDAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN WE CAN DO THAT.
BUT WE'LL TRY TO DO IT A FEW WEEKS IN ADVANCE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
BUT, UM, AND THAT BEING SAID, WE, YOU KNOW, WE DO KIND OF HAVE A STRICT TIMEFRAME, AND I'LL GO OVER THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT WE'LL PROBABLY NEED TO ADD ADDITIONAL MEETINGS.
SO THOSE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO KIND OF FIT IN, BUT WE'LL JUST KIND OF SEE HOW THOSE, UH, PROGRESS.
UH, SO REALLY KIND OF STARTING OFF.
UH, SO THIS BOARD IS BUILT INTO OUR CHAPTER 10 OF THE CITY CODES.
UH, THAT IS ALSO THE CHAPTER THAT ADOPTS ALL OF THE BUILDING CODES EXCEPT FOR THE FIRE CODE.
UM, IT'S SECTION 10 DASH 14 A DECISION.
AND REALLY WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT IS WE'RE CALLED THE ADVISORY
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AND APPEALS BOARD.SO PROMINENTLY IT'S AN APPEALS.
SO ANY DECISION BY THE BUILDING OFFICIAL ARE THE FIRE MARSHAL UNDER CHAPTER 11.
UM, ARE THE BUILDING OFFICIAL UNDER CHAPTER 28 FOR SIGNS, UH, THAT IS MADE, CAN BE APPEALED BY WHOEVER, UH, WOULD LIKE TO, IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE THE PERSON THAT'S AFFECTED BY, UH, THAT SPECIFIC DECISION.
SO A CITIZEN THAT DOESN'T AGREE WITH DECISION COULD TECHNICALLY APPEAL TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO REVERSE THAT.
SO IT'S FAIRLY OPEN TO ANYBODY.
TYPICALLY IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T APPROVE A SET OF PLANS, YOU KNOW, THE DESIGN PROFESSIONAL'S, THE ONE THAT WOULD TYPICALLY COME IN AND APPEAL THAT, BUT IT IS OPEN TO ANYBODY THAT, UH, THAT WANTS TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
UH, THEY HAVE 21 DAYS, SO ONCE WE'VE OFFICIALLY NOTICED THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY, THE DECISION HAS BEEN MADE, THEN THERE'S A 21 DAY CALENDAR DAY FOR THEM TO SUBMIT TO US AND APPEALS, UH, WHICH IS THROUGH OUR NEW BUILD ESSAY SYSTEM.
I OVERSEE THAT, AND ONCE WE RECEIVE THAT AND EVERYTHING'S GOOD, AND REALLY THERE IS, YOU KNOW, REALLY IT'S KIND OF A, DOES IT MAKE SENSE AND FALL WITHIN A FEW THINGS THAT I CAN KIND OF GO OVER.
UH, REALLY IT'S THE DOES IT, IS IT, IS IT ABOUT INTER UH, CORRECTLY INTERPRETATION OF THE CODES, UH, DOES NOT APPLY THAT THIS CHAPTER DOES NOT APPLY TO WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY.
OR THEY HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS, IS EQUALLY GOOD.
SO THEY CAN'T REALLY APPEAL FOR ANY REASON.
IT HAS TO FALL WITHIN ONE OF THOSE THREE, UH, REALMS. THEN WE HAVE TO ACCEPT IT ONCE WE RECEIVE THE APPEAL AND THE PAY, UM, THE, THE FEE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
AND THEN IT MOVES TO GOING BEFORE Y'ALL.
AND WE HAVE 14 CALENDAR DAYS TO GET THAT DONE.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE TRICKY PART WITH THIS BOARD IS, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET A QUORUM OF, UH, NINE INDIVIDUALS THAT CAN MEET.
UH, NOW THAT MOVING BACK TO IN-PERSON, UH, IT GETS A LITTLE BIT MORE CHALLENGING, BUT, UH, WE HAVE 14 CALENDAR DAYS TO MEET AND HEAR THAT APPEAL, UH, AND MAKE A DECISION ON THAT.
UH, ONCE THE BOARD CANNOT WAIVE REQUIREMENTS.
SO WHAT'S BASED IN CHAPTER 10, CHAPTER 11 AND CHAPTER 28, WE CAN'T WAIVE ANY OF THOSE.
WE CAN REALLY ONLY LOOK TO SEE DOES IT NOT APPLY? IS IT, DID THEY PROVIDE US AN EQUAL OR, UH, A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO IT THAT IT'S STILL EQUAL OR VALID? UM, OR WAS IT A MISINTERPRETATION BY THIS BUILDING OFFICIAL? BUT THERE IS NO ABILITY TO SAY, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT THAT I DON'T LIKE THAT.
IT, IT'S STRICTLY, YOU'RE STILL KIND OF BEHOLDING THE SAME.
Y'ALL ARE REALLY JUST LOOKING AT IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
UH, WE UNDERSTAND THE, THE CODES ARE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE 20, 34 BOARD MEMBERS, WE CAN HAVE 34 DIFFERENT WAYS OF READING THE CODES.
AND THAT'S THE SAME WAY WITH, WITH THE CITY.
UM, BUT ULTIMATELY WE STILL NEED TO LOOK AT IT TO SAY THAT WE ARE MEETING THE CODE IN SOME FORM OR FASHION.
UM, BOARDS CAN ALSO GET RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS THE, IS ADVISORY.
SO ANYTIME WE LOOK TO DO SOMETHING, MAKE CHANGES, UH, BOTH THE BUILDING OFFICIAL AND THE CITY AND THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE CAN COME TO THIS BOARD AND LOOK FOR SOME FEEDBACK AND SOME GUIDANCE ON HOW TO, YOU KNOW, ENACT NEW PROCEDURES AND POLICIES, UM, HOW TO INTERPRET THE CODE, UH, VARIOUS THINGS.
I KNOW WE'VE COME IN THE PAST ON, YOU KNOW, ALLOWING THIRD PARTY INSPECTORS TO COME IN AND DO DIFFERENT TYPES OF INSPECTIONS WAS ONE OF THE MORE RECENT THINGS WE DID FOR THE ADVISORY.
UH, BUT THAT IS KIND OF THE ALTERNATE, UH, VERSION OF THE, OF THIS BOARD IS TO GIVE US SOME ADVICE AS WELL FOR BOTH THE BUILDING OFFICIAL AND THE FIRE MARSHAL.
UH, SO WE DO HAVE THE PRIMARY AND THE ALTERNATES.
UH, SO ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE 17 POSITIONS.
EACH HAS A PRIMARY AND AN ALTERNATE WINFIELD, IF NOT VACANT, UH, ONLY THE PRIMARY CAN VOTE IF, UH, BOTH ARE HERE AT THE SAME TIME.
THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, WE DO WELCOME, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S VERY SPECIFIC TO THAT TRADE.
SO IF SOMEBODY WAS COMING IN WITH A ELECTRICAL CONDITION OR ELECTRICAL ISSUE, UH, BUILDING DECISION THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO APPEAL, IT'D BE GREAT TO HAVE AS MANY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, BOTH THE ENGINEER, THE CONTRACTORS, ALL ON THE TABLE, PRIMARY AND ALTERNATE.
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, AND THE ALTERNATES CAN'T SPEAK AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO THE BOARD AND DISCUSSION, BUT THEY CANNOT JUST VOTE.
SO IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S, SO THEY'RE ALWAYS WELCOME.
WE CAN MAKE ROOM FOR THEM, UH, GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
IT'S PART OF THE ADVISORY BOARD, UM, OR THE APPEALS BOARD, BUT THEY JUST WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE A VOTE ON THAT AS LONG AS THE PRIMARY'S HERE.
AS LONG AS THE PRIMARY'S HERE.
BUT AT THE PRIMARY NOT, THEN THEY DO HAVE YES.
THE PRIMARY THEN THEY DO, CORRECT.
UH, SO WE, ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE 17 POSITIONS THAT ARE, ARE HERE.
SO WE NEED HALF OF THAT TO BE A QUORUM.
SO WE NEED NINE MEMBERS, EITHER PRIMARY AND ALTERNATE WITH THE, UM, ALTERNATE DOES NOT COUNT IF THE PRIMARY IS THERE, BUT AS LONG AS WE HAVE NINE MEMBERS HERE, THEN WE HAVE A QUORUM WE CAN MEET TO HEAR THAT APPEAL, UM, OR ANYTHING ADVISORY AND MAKE ACTION, UH, AND ACTUALLY HOLD A MEETING.
UH, SUBJECT MATTER SUBJECT MANAGER EXPERT IS REQUIRED TO BE PRESENT WHEN HEARING AN APPEAL.
UH, SO THAT'S ONE ACTUALLY, I KIND OF, I WAS GOING TO REFRESH IN MY MIND.
WE ALWAYS TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT'S THERE, BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THAT WAS ACTUALLY CODIFIED.
SO THAT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
SO ONCE AGAIN, IF WE DO HAVE SOMEBODY HERE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER COME IN TO APPEAL SOMETHING ONE TIME, AND WE MAY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD OUR STRUCTURAL ENGINEER ON, ON SITE.
UM, NOW IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEIR APPEAL GETS APPROVED.
AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO, IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE HAVE TO WORK TO GET IT RESCHEDULED.
UH, BUT IT IS CRITICAL THAT WE HAVE THAT SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT HERE IN ORDER TO HEAL THAT HEAR THAT APPEAL.
UH, SO NEXT, GO AHEAD MR. SMITH.
SO WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THAT BEFORE.
SO IF, SAY IF THAT WOMAN WE DID WORK, LEWIS WAS HERE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER HERE, THEN WE WOULD'VE TO RESCHEDULE.
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YES.WE WOULD'VE TO RESCHEDULE, CORRECT.
NOW THAT ONE IS ALSO A, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS SOMETIMES WHERE WE'RE TALKING MORE ABOUT REGISTRATIONS AND LICENSING AND, AND WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF A GRAY AREA.
I MEAN, IT'S NICE TO HAVE 'EM THERE IF WE COULD, BUT, UH, BECAUSE I KNOW WE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE LIKE HAVE A PLUMBER THAT IS GOING FOR A LICENSE REGISTRATION THAT'S REALLY NOT TECHNICAL TO THE PLUMBING.
SO IT'S MORE ANYBODY THAT'S KIND OF REGISTERED WITH THE CITY HELPS US A LITTLE BIT.
THAT WOULD BE THE CITY CLARIFYING PRIOR TO THAT MEETING.
THAT SM E IS REQUIRED OR NOT? EXACTLY.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE ALWAYS JUST TRY TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE.
AND YOU KNOW, USUALLY WE'LL REACH OUT TO THE CHAIR AND THAT SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT TO FIND WHAT DATE THEY ARE AVAILABLE IN THAT 14 DAY WINDOW AND THEN SCHEDULE FROM THERE AND THEN TRY TO GET THE QUORUM AROUND THAT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE, AS A BOARD AS A WHOLE.
UM, SO THAT'S HEARING THE APPEALS HELPING OUT ADVISORY.
SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING FOR THE REST OF THE DAY AND FOR THE NEXT 25 WEEKS IS GOING OVER COMMITTEES.
SO REAL QUICK, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT WHAT COMMITTEES CAN AND CAN'T DO, UM, AND WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE.
SO THAT'S ALL FOUND UNDER SECTION.
LET'S REVIEW THE ADOPTED CODES AND WE'LL REPORT BACK TO THE FULL BOARD.
SO WE'LL DEVELOP THE COMMITTEES TODAY, WE'LL START MEETING WITH THOSE COMMITTEES, BUT THOSE DECISIONS ULTIMATELY GO BACK TO THE FULL BOARD.
AND THEN IT'S REQUIRED FOR THE FULL BOARD TO ADOPT, UH, WHATEVER THE COMMITTEE SAYS.
SO, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN MAKE CHANGES AT THAT LEVEL.
WE TRY TO LIMIT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO HASH IT ALL OUT, BUT WE UNDERSTAND NOT EVERYBODY'S AT THOSE MEETINGS AND EVERYBODY, UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT IMPACTED BY THESE DECISIONS.
MR. SMITH DO THE MEET, UH, THE COMMITTEES WE HAD LAST YEAR, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
SO THAT NO AND VOIDS WE'RE DOING THAT, CORRECT? UH, IACTUALLY, I THINK IT WAS 2020.
WE, WE DID MEET IN JUNE OF 2020 LAST.
YEAH, WE, WE SET UP COMMITTEE.
YEAH, WE SET UP COMMITTEES LAST YEAR, ROBERT, SORRY, WHEN WE THOUGHT COVID WAS ONLY GONNA LAST ABOUT SIX MONTHS.
YEAH, BECAUSE I REMEMBER, LOOK, I WAS LOOKING, I REMEMBER GOING THROUGH, SO I JUST WAS CLARIFYING.
AND THAT, THAT WAS SOMETHING I WAS GONNA BRING UP THE NEXT ONE.
BUT YES, WE ARE KIND OF LOOKING AT IT, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE HAVE NEW MEMBERS AND, UM, AND I WON'T LIE, SOME OF THOSE COMMITTEES WERE KIND OF LACKING ON A FEW SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.
AND SO IT'S A GOOD TIME TO JUST GO AHEAD AND REVAMP AND HIT THE GROUND RUNNING.
ALL THE COMMITTEES HAD AN OPPORTUNITY.
NO, IT WAS REALLY JUST SET 'EM UP.
UH, SO COMMITTEES ARE DEVELOPED, UH, 4, 2, 7 MEMBERS IN A MAJORITY IS NEEDED FOR QUORUM.
SO IF WE HAVE FOUR OR FIVE, THEN WE NEED THREE MEMBERS PRESENT.
IF WE HAVE SIX OR SEVEN MEMBERS ON THE BOARD ON THE COMMITTEE, THEN WE NEED FOUR PRESENT TO MEET QUORUM.
UM, WE CAN, JUST A QUICK CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
IF, IF WE HAVE THE COMMITTEES.
CAN, CAN YOU USE YOUR MIC PLEASE, RON? RON KAUS, UH, CLARIFICATION.
SO THE COMMITTEES CAN CONSIST OF OTHER THAN BOARD MEMBERS.
HOWEVER, FOR THE QUORUM TO BE PRESENT, THERE NEEDS TO BE A MINIMUM NUMBER OF BOARD MEMBERS TO BE PRESENT, NOT JUST A SIMPLE MAJORITY FOR A QUORUM.
SO WE CAN HAVE FOUR NON-BOARD MEMBERS ON THAT APPOINTED TO THE BOARD, IF AS NEEDED.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'D BE, YOU KNOW, SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE BOARD.
UH, TRADE INDUSTRIES, UH, REALLY ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO BE THERE.
UH, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO VOTE.
THEY'RE NOT NEEDED THERE FOR QUORUM.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S MORE JUST TO OFFICIALLY HAVE SOMEBODY THERE THAT CAN, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE SOME OUTSIDE OF THE BOARD AND OUTSIDE THE CITY GUIDANCE.
AND WHEN YOU SAY BOARD MEMBERS, THAT WOULD BE EITHER ALTERNATES OR VOTING MEMBERS? NOT JUST VOTING MEMBERS TO MAKE THE
THAT COULD BE PRIMARY AND ALTERNATES.
UM, IF WE DO HAVE BOTH PRIMARIES AND ALTERNATE OF THE SAME POSITION ON THE BOARD, THEN WE KIND OF LOSE, REALLY WE'RE LOSING SOMETHING AND MAKING IT MORE COMPLICATED 'CAUSE THEY BOTH CAN VOTE.
UM, BUT SOMETHING THAT IS SOMETHING I, YOU KNOW, KIND OF REALIZED GOING THROUGH THIS ONCE AGAIN IS, AND WE'LL PROBABLY DO THAT WHEN WE'LL PROBABLY DO THAT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS ONE, IS EACH, EACH MEMBER OF THAT COMMITTEE CAN HAVE A PRIMARY AND AN ALTERNATE.
SO IF I WOULD SAY IF A PHYSICIAN HAS BOTH MEMBERS, YOU KNOW, THE PRIMARY AND ALTERNATE OF THE ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR WANTS TO BE ON IT, THEY CAN BE ON IT.
I WOULD JUST SAY HAVE ONE BE THE PRIMARY AND ONE BE THE ALTERNATE.
THEY CAN STILL COME TO ALL THE MEETINGS, SO GET ALL THE INVITES THEY CAN DISCUSS, THEY CAN TALK.
IT WOULD JUST BE WHEN WE GO TO VOTE.
IF THE PRIMARY'S THERE, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO VOTE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY FOR THE MOST POINT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A CONTENTION WITHIN THE COMMITTEE.
THE VOTE'S REALLY, UH, USUALLY, YOU KNOW, UM, UNANIMOUS, IT'S MORE THAT DISCUSSION, WHICH IS WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AS MANY SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AT THE TABLE AS POSSIBLE.
UM, THAT GIVES US, UH, MORE INFORMATION.
SO IF THERE IS ANY DESIRE FOR A PRIMARY AND ALTERNATE TO BE ON THE SAME COMMITTEE, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY LET'S DO THAT, BUT SET THEM UP TO BE THAT PERSON'S ALTERNATE.
UM, OR, OR MAYBE EVEN SAY, YOU KNOW, IF FOR SOME REASON THE ALTERNATE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE AVAILABLE DURING THAT TIMEFRAME, MAKE THEM THE PRIMARY ON THE COMMITTEE AND THEN MAKE THE ALTERNATE, UM, BE THEIR PRIMARY.
THAT WOULD ONLY VOTE WHENEVER THEY'RE SHOT.
SO THE CLIFF'S NOTES VERSION OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS IF YOU HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE, THE PRIMARY AND THE ALTERNATE BOTH CANNOT VOTE.
BUT THEY CAN BOTH BE ON AND, AND, AND TO CLARIFY THAT, AGAIN, THEY
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CAN CHOOSE WHICH ONE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE THE PRIMARY ON THIS BOARD.THAT COULD BE THE ALTERNATE, STILL BE THE PRIMARY ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE, CORRECT? CORRECT, CORRECT.
UM, CAN'T HAVE AN UNLIMITED NUMBER OF XIO MEMBERS.
SO THESE AREN'T THE FOUR THAT WE'RE TALKED ABOUT.
THIS IS REALLY JUST ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO SAY THAT I'M PART OF THIS AND BE PART OF THE, YOU KNOW, I THINK REALLY ALL THAT WOULD MEAN IS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ON THE LIST, THEY GET ALL THE COMMUNICATIONS AND THEY'RE PART OF THAT, AND YOU KNOW, WE'D ROLL, CALL THEM IN.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'RE REALLY JUST, UM, ATTENDEES, UH, FOR THE MOST PART.
CORRECT, JOSEPH? I THINK YOU WOULD BE LIKE STAFF AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, SO MEMBERS CAN HAVE APPOINTED ALTERNATES THAT CAN SIT.
SO THAT'S KINDA WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE LOOK AT THAT AS AN OPTION SINCE WE'RE TRYING TO BE VERY STRINGENT AND TRY TO KEEP THOSE MEETINGS SET AND, UH, FALL WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
UM, ADDITIONAL, UH, SO THE, THE FOUR NON-MEMBERS, THIS WILL WHAT MR. SMITH WAS TALKING ABOUT.
UH, THERE ALTERNATES CAN BE VOTED INTO COMMITTEES, BUT THOSE MEMBERS CANNOT VOTE OR BE COUNTED TOWARD QUORUM, UM, MEETINGS.
SO THIS IS KIND OF BOTH, UM, THE BOARD AND COMMITTEES WILL FOLLOW ROBERT'S RULE OF ORDER.
UM, I LEAVE IT UP TO THE CHAIR ON HOW STRINGENTLY, UH, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE MEET THE LETTER OF THE LAW, BUT I KNOW SOME BOARDS ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE STRINGENT ON, ON THINGS, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE UP TO THE CHAIR.
THAT'S NOT REALLY UP TO THE CITY ON, ON DICTATING THAT.
UM, MEETINGS ARE ALWAYS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
SO THESE WILL BE BOTH THE COMMITTEE AND THE BOARD MEETINGS.
WE HAVE SEVEN TWO HOUR MINIMUM.
UH, WE WANNA MAKE THEM, YOU KNOW, AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE.
UM, THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS AREN'T REQUIRED TO BE LIVE STREAM.
ONCE AGAIN, WE WANT TO TRY TO BE AS, AS OPEN AS POSSIBLE, BUT WE'RE KIND OF LIMITED ON RESOURCES.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW ROOMS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO DO THAT.
AND WE RARELY MEET IN HERE FOR THE COMMITTEES JUST BECAUSE THIS ROOM'S UTILIZED SO MUCH.
UH, SO WE'LL KIND OF SEE WITH THAT.
THAT'S STILL A LITTLE BIT UP IN THE AIR.
UM, MIKE SHANNON, OUR DIRECTOR AND OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND CRYSTAL, UH, GONZALEZ, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, ARE ALL KIND OF LOOKING AT THAT AND TRYING TO MAKE A DECISION ON HOW THEY WANNA APPROACH THAT.
UH, AND ALSO ANY DECISION BY THAT BOARD, UM, IS DONE BY RESOLUTION.
SO ANY VOTE IS ULTIMATELY DONE.
WE AS THE STAFF CREATE A RESOLUTION WHICH IS SIGNED BY THE CHAIR.
THAT'S USUALLY DONE ON THE BACK END.
BUT, UM, SO I'LL BE WORKING WITH, UH, MR. TMORE ANYTIME THERE IS A RESOLUTION, WE, WE CREATE THAT.
AND THAT'S, IT'S AN ACTUAL FORM DOCUMENT THAT IS PUBLISHED AND, UH, GOES ON THE RECORD.
UH, THE BUILDING OFFICIAL AND FIRE CHIEF SHALL TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE DECISION OF THE BOARD.
UH, SO THAT'S KIND OF IN AN APPEAL.
WHEN SOMEBODY COMES TO AN APPEAL, THERE IS NO WELL VOTING OFFICIAL.
SO ONCE Y'ALL MAKE THAT DECISION, WE SIGN THE RESOLUTION.
UH, THAT DECISION IS NOW FORMAL, UH, ANY, AND THEN ONCE AGAIN, ANY ACTION TAKEN BY THE BOARD IS FINAL.
SO REALLY ANYTHING ALL MAKE THE DECISION ON, ON AN APPEAL SPECIFICALLY USUALLY IS THE CASE.
IT CAN'T BE OVERRULED BY THE BUILDING OFFICIAL.
IT CAN'T BE OVERRULED BY CITY COUNCIL.
I THINK IT MOVES TO CIVIL, CIVIL COURTS, UH, TO MAKE ANYTHING BEYOND THAT.
SO, UH, Y'ALL ARE KIND OF THE BUCK STOPS THERE, SIR.
MR. HENRY, UM, JEREMY, UH, IN THIS COURSE OF SCHEDULING, I, I THINK FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEES AND THE BOARD, UH, YOU WILL PRODUCE A MASTER SCHEDULE.
SO WE KNOW, AND BECAUSE OF THE LIMIT ON FACILITIES HERE, UH, MIRRORING THIS PROCESS FOR THE BUILDING RELATED FIRE CODE AND APPEALS IS THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THEY'RE GONNA BE USING THE SAME FACILITY.
SO YOU'RE GONNA COORDINATE YOUR SCHEDULE FOR THIS COMMITTEE WITH THAT COMMITTEE, CORRECT? I THINK WE ARE, I, I NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY MEET OFFICER, YOU TALK ABOUT FACILITIES, MAKING SURE FOR THE DIFFERENT COMMITTEES.
WELL, ALSO, I MEAN, IT'D BE NICE IF WE WEREN'T DOUBLING UP ON PTECH MEETINGS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT I GUESS I, YOU KNOW, ROBERT BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT.
I DON'T THINK I FACTORED THAT IN.
'CAUSE I SERVE ON THAT COMMITTEE TOO, AND I'M, IT'S AN INDIVIDUAL, BUT THE POINT BEING, IF YOU'VE GOT LIMITED FACILITIES AND THEY'RE PLANNING TO USE THIS ROOM, WE JUST NEED TO GET A MASTER SCHEDULE OF WHEN THIS COMMITTEE WILL USE THIS ROOM AND WHEN PTAC PC TAC WILL USE THIS ROOM.
AS A MEMBER OF PTECH, DO Y'ALL HAVE THE SCHEDULE YET THAT YOU KNOW OF? YES, YES.
THIS ROOM IS ALREADY RESERVED.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT DAYS THOSE ARE? IS IT KIND OF A SET WEEKLY OR IS IT TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS? IT'S EVERY WEEK.
IS IT MORNING OR AFTERNOON? I'M NOT SURE.
ON THE LAST TIME WE DID OUR COMMITTEES, WE WERE MEETING IN THOSE OTHER ROOMS. YEAH, CORRECT.
WELL, YEAH, WE ALSO MET UPSTAIRS IN THE, IN THE TRAINING ROOMS AS WELL.
UM, YEAH, NO, BUT IT BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT.
AND I THINK AS A, ALSO AS A TRANSPARENCY THING, WE'D PROBABLY WANNA LIMIT, EVEN IF IT'S NOT JUST A FACILITIES THING.
ONE, IT TAXES OUR, OUR RESOURCES.
SO WE WANNA PROBABLY LIMIT HOW MUCH WE'RE DOING DUE THOSE AT THE SAME TIME.
BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WE ARE RUNNING U D C AND THIS AT THE SAME TIME, AND WHILE THEY'RE KIND OF NOT, THEY'RE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE, BUT I MEAN, THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT AR AREAS, BUT THEY DO IMPACT A LOT OF THE SAME, UH, INDIVIDUALS ACROSS THE CITY.
SO WE WANNA TRY TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO WHERE SOMEBODY DOESN'T HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION OF ATTENDING A PTAC VERSUS ATTENDING ONE OF OUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
I, JEREMY, I THINK MOST OF THE P C TAC MEETINGS OR ON MONDAY AFTERNOON.
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UH, BUT THERE WILL BE CALLED MEETINGS IF WE'RE NOT GETTING THROUGH THE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED IN A, IN A ADEQUATE TIMEFRAME.BUT YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU BRING UP A GREAT POINT.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL BE WORKING WITH, UM, OUR EXECUTIVE TEAM TO MAKE SURE WE TO LIMIT THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
IT MAKES SENSE TO TRY TO KEEP IT SEPARATED AS MUCH.
UH, BUT THAT BEING SAID, UH, SO THAT KIND OF CONCLUDES, UH, OVERVIEW.
UH, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD ON ANY OF THE QUESTIONS OF KIND OF LIKE THAT CHAPTER 10, UH, EVERYTHING THAT DEVELOPS THIS, THIS BOARD, AND KIND OF THE RULES AND EVERYTHING WE FOLLOW FOR IT? OKAY.
SO THAT BEING SAID, THE NEXT, UH, THE FINAL THING I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT BEFORE WE'RE RELEASING Y'ALL TO START TALKING ABOUT THE COMMITTEES IS WHAT DOES OUR SCHEDULE LOOK LIKE? I DO KIND OF, WE, WE ARE BEING, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA BE AS SET NOW AS WE CAN, UH, WITH THE IDEA OF BEING FLEXIBLE.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, YOU BROUGHT UP A GREAT POINT OF THE PTEX.
I'M GONNA GO BACK AND DOUBLE CHECK THESE DATES, SEE IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE.
BUT BASED ON THE QUESTIONNAIRE THAT I RECEIVED BACK, UH, THE NUMBER ONE TIME AVAILABLE FOR MOST MEMBERS WAS THURSDAY AFTERNOONS, UH, FROM ONE TO FOUR.
SO WE'RE GONNA USE THAT AS OUR PRIMARY, BUT WE ALREADY KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE TIMES THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING, UH, TWO MEETINGS A WEEK.
OUR SECONDARY IS GONNA BE TUESDAY, UH, FROM ONE TO FOUR, WHICH WAS THE OTHER ONE.
UM, I WOULD, THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, IF, IF I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT DOESN'T MEET EVERYBODY'S, WE WILL TRY TO WORK AROUND, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED TO ADJUST IT A LITTLE BIT FOR A COMMITTEE, 'CAUSE YOU WANNA BE ON IT, BUT YOU'RE DEFINITELY NOT AVAILABLE DURING THAT TIME.
YOU KNOW, LET, LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.
UH, I WANNA LEAVE THAT UP TO THE BOARD.
YOU KNOW, WE'LL MEET Y'ALL SCHEDULE, BUT THE GOAL IS ULTIMATELY TRY, TRY TO BE FINE TUNED ON WHEN WE'RE GONNA SET THESE MEETINGS FOR KEEP 'EM KIND OF CONSISTENT AND HAVE THAT READY TO GO OVER THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS AS WE GET STARTED.
UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE ANTICIPATING ABOUT 25 MEETINGS.
THAT'S ABOUT WHAT TOOK, UH, LAST TIME ACROSS ALL THE COMMITTEES.
UH, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO COMPLETE THOSE IN ABOUT 19 WEEKS.
UH, ONCE AGAIN, MEETINGS ARE BEING HELD ON THURSDAYS AT ONE, UH, FROM ONE TO FOUR, UH, WITH ADDITIONAL MEETINGS ON TUESDAYS FROM ONE TO FOUR WHEN NEEDED.
AND WE'RE LOOKING TO START MEETINGS ON FEBRUARY FOUR, UH, 17TH.
UH, SO THAT'S ABOUT TWO AND A HALF TO THREE WEEKS FROM, FROM NOW.
AND LOOKING TO CONCLUDE IN JUNE 16TH.
UH, ONCE WE CONCLUDE THOSE COMMITTEES, THEN OF COURSE WE NEED TO COME BACK TO THE FULL BOARD.
WE'RE ANTICIPATING MEETING ONCE, UH, THE WEEK OF JUNE 20TH, PROBABLY GETTING SOME FEEDBACK, UH, FROM THE FULL BOARD.
USUALLY WE'LL GET SOME, UH, SOME GUIDANCE TO MOVE FORWARD, DO A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH.
TYPICALLY NOT GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE, BUT AT LEAST KIND OF JUST AN, YOU KNOW, DO A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH WE CAN BRING BACK TO THE BOARD.
SO ANTICIPATING A MEETING ABOUT TWO WEEKS TO DO THAT.
AND THEN MEETING ONE MORE TIME, UH, WITH THE FULL BOARD IN JULY 11TH.
HOPEFULLY, UH, GETTING A RESOLUTION ON THE ADOPTED CODES AT THAT TIME.
I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO WRAP THIS UP BY JUNE.
UM, THE QUESTION I HAVE IS WE WON'T HAVE, UH, ANY BOARD MEETINGS UNLESS THERE'S AN APPEAL.
IT'LL ALL BE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
UM, SO CITY COUNCIL, THEY, THEY DON'T MEET IN JULY, SO WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A BUFFER IN THAT SINCE THEY DON'T MEET IN JULY.
THE GOAL IS TO TRY TO HAVE THE BOARD WRAPPED UP WITH THEIR RESOLUTION EARLY JULY.
BUT WE GOT A COUPLE WEEKS, IF ANYTHING PUSHES.
UH, JUST BECAUSE THE, THE, THE, ONCE AGAIN, SO CITY COUNCIL DOESN'T MEAN JULY 'CAUSE THEY'RE DEALING WITH CITY BUDGET AT THAT TIME.
SO THEY JUST DON'T HAVE ANY MEETINGS.
SO WE'LL BE, THE FIRST AVAILABILITY WE HAVE IS TO GET TO CITY COUNCIL ON EARLY AUGUST, UH, GO THROUGH ONE OF THEIR COMMITTEES AND THEN, UH, MOVE INTO A FULL CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO GET FINAL RESOLUTION AND, AND VOTE ON THAT.
AND THEN OF COURSE, AS ALWAYS, WE'LL DO A 90 DAY GRACE PERIOD.
SO THE OFFICIAL ADOPTION AND, UH, START USE OF THE 2021 CODES.
WE'RE LOOKING AT LATE 2021, EARLY 2022, JUST KIND OF DEPENDING ON WHEN WE GET THROUGH, UH, CITY COUNCIL.
SO WHAT, AT WHAT POINT ARE STAKEHOLDERS MADE AWARE OF THE SCHEDULE AND OUTREACH TO THE STATE? ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT ARE AFFECTED BY THE CODE? WE'LL BE STARTING THAT RIGHT NOW.
WE'LL BE, ALL OF THIS WILL BE ON THE WEBSITE.
UH, THESE, UH, LIKE I SAID, I'M, I, RIGHT NOW, I HAVE SET DATES AND TIMES FOR EACH ONE OF THE MEETINGS AND I'M GONNA PUT THOSE OUT THERE UNLESS COMMITTEES ARE ASKING THAT I CHANGE THOSE OR HOLD OFF.
UM, WE CAN'T HAVE THAT DURING THAT DISCUSSION OF, OF VOTING ON THE COMMITTEES.
UH, BUT THAT'S THE GOAL IS AS SOON AS WE HAVE THOSE SET, UH, JUST LIKE WITH OUR U D C, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A VERY FORWARD FACING, UH, WEBSITE.
UH, WE WILL, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT TO ALL THE TRADE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE'RE CONTACTED WITH AND ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, OUT THERE AND BE PART OF OUR NEWSLETTERS, BE PART OF, UH, ALL OUR MONTHLY MEETINGS WITH VARIOUS TRADES, UH, THAT WE HAVE ALREADY SET UP, UM, YOU KNOW, AS, AS PUBLIC, AS POSSIBLY AS WE CAN BE.
UM, AND KEEP THOSE MEETINGS AS OPEN AS MUCH.
MR. RUST, JUST REAL QUICK, SO WE'RE A COUPLE YEARS BEHIND YES SIR.
BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED.
WHEN, WHEN'S THE NEXT TIME THAT WE'RE GONNA DO THIS? WHAT YEAR WILL THAT BE? I DON'T KNOW IF OUR EXECUTIVE TEAM HAS DISCUSSED THAT AT ALL.
UM, I, I ASSUME WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT LET'S GET THIS ONE UNDER US AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE 2020 FOURS WHEN IT COMES OUT, I DON'T SEE US, YOU KNOW, RIGHT.
ISN'T IT? DO WE USUALLY DO IT THE YEAR AFTER OR THE YEAR BEFORE THE, THE DATE THAT IS PUBLISHED AND I JUST ASKED, ARE WE GONNA BE DOING THIS A YEAR FROM NOW?
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WHAT WE DID IN 2018, WE DID A, WE DID ADOPT IT, I THINK OCTOBER 1ST, 2018.UH, SO WE STARTED IN THOSE MEETINGS THAT, THAT EARLIER THAT YEAR.
OUR GOAL THIS TIME WAS ACTUALLY TO EVEN DO IT A LITTLE BIT BEFORE THAT.
BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHY I THINK, LIKE I SAID, IT WAS JUNE OF 2020 THAT WE CREATED THE COMMITTEES WITH THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD START THAT FALL AND, AND YOU KNOW, HAVE THIS KIND OF BE AS SOON AS THEY'RE OFFICIALLY PUBLISHED AND OUT THERE, UH, FOR 2021.
AND SO THE POINT OF MY QUESTION IS THIS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE BEHIND A COUPLE YEARS, UM, TALKING ABOUT THE, THE NEW, YOU KNOW, THE NEW PUBLISHED CODES, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DOT, WHAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO, I JUST, I THINK WE SHOULD AVOID A SITUATION WHERE WE CHANGE THE CODES AND THEN A YEAR LATER CHANGE 'EM AGAIN SO THAT IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THAT'S THE TIMELINE THEN, THEN WHAT I'M SAYING IS MOOT.
BUT I JUST THINK THAT'S A CONSIDERATION.
WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD CONSIDER, WE'RE ALWAYS ON A THREE YEAR CYCLE BECAUSE THE NEXT FAMILY OF CODES, WHICH ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL HAVEN'T BEEN COMPLETED AND THE DRAFTS HAVEN'T BEEN PUBLISHED, IS THE 2024 FAMILY OF THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL, I BELIEVE IS CORRECT.
YEAH, AND I AGREE AND YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT EARLY TO TO DISCUSS IT, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE CODES DO CHANGE A LOT OF THINGS WHEN IT COMES TO DESIGNING AND, AND BUILDING, YOU KNOW, WE'D PROBABLY LOOKING TO SEE IF WAS THERE, IS THERE A SIGNIFICANT THING THAT COMES OUT IN THE 2020 FOURS THAT SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS WILL HELP A WHOLE LOT OF THE INDUSTRY AND WE SHOULD PUSH THAT THROUGH.
UM, IF NOT, THEN, YOU KNOW, IS IT MAKES SENSE TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, LET'S SIT ON THIS, DON'T, YOU KNOW, ROCK THE BOAT IMMEDIATELY, UH, BUT PROBABLY NOT WAIT UNTIL THIS LATE INTO THE NEXT COVID CYCLE.
MAYBE BE LOOKING AT IT IN 2024, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT ONCE AGAIN, I'LL HAVE TO LEAVE THAT UP TO THE EXECUTIVE TEAM, MIKE SHANNON, SEE KINDA WHERE THEY WANT TO BE AT, YOU KNOW, AND YEAH, WE'LL SEE HOW THIS PROCESS GOES.
I MEAN, WE'RE STILL KIND OF ON THE FRONT END.
I'M NOT EVEN SURE, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL OF GETTING IT DONE IN 2022 IS STILL, YOU KNOW, UP THERE WITH THE CODE, WITH THE VARIANT BEING WHAT IT IS NOW.
I MEAN, NO TELLING WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
SO THANK YOU MR. WELL LET ME, LET ME UH, ADD A COUPLE THINGS SO WE WON'T START AGAIN AT, IN UNTIL AT LEAST 2024, MOST LIKELY 2025.
WE'LL PROBABLY MAINTAIN A, ABOUT A THREE YEAR GAP IN BETWEEN THE ADOPTION PROCESS.
UM, CAN I HAVE, UH, ASK QUESTION CRYSTAL OR, OR JEREMY, HAS THE CITY REVIEWED THE 2021 CODE AND, AND I'M, I KNOW IT'S MARKED IN THE BOOKS IN THE MARGINS ABOUT SIGNIFICANT CHANGES FROM THE PREVIOUS EDITION? CORRECT.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT'S GONNA BE IN CHAPTER 10 THAT THE CITY IS GONNA BE A PROPONENT OF IN ADDITION TO THE MODIFICATIONS MADE IN THE I C C FAMILY OF CODES? SO IS YOUR QUESTION, ARE WE PROPOSING ANY NEW AMENDMENTS? YES.
SO OUR GOAL EVERY YEAR IS TO ADOPT THE CODES AS IS.
SO OUR GOAL REALLY IS TO ELIMINATE AS MANY AMENDMENTS AS POSSIBLE.
UM, AND WE HAVE, WE HAVE STARTED, YOU KNOW, STAFF HAS STARTED THAT REVIEW AND WE, UH, WE ARE HAPPY TO REPORT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO REDUCE SOME AMENDMENTS, MAKE SOME CHANGES TO OTHERS.
SOMETIMES THE CODE HAS CAUGHT UP TO WHERE WE WANTED TO BE TO BEGIN WITH.
UM, BUT I CAN'T SAY FOR SURE THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO PROPOSE ANY AMENDMENTS.
UM, BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE MAJOR CHANGES, UH, FROM THE BASE CODES BECAUSE IN THE PAST, MOST OF THE MAJOR CHANGES THAT ARE NOT IN THE I C C FAMILY OF CODES THAT ARE CHAPTER 10 HAVE BEEN FIRE ISSUES ONE.
UH, AND I BELIEVE IN THE LAST, UH, TIME THAT WE ADOPTED THE CODES, THERE WAS SOME POST COMMISSIONING ISSUES THAT WE MADE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THAT WAS RECOMMENDED IN THE GOATS.
SO THAT'S THE KINDA LEVEL OF WHAT ARE THE SIGNIFICANT ITEMS THAT STAFF HAS REVIEWED, THE CURRENT FAMILY OF CODES THAT THERE MAY BE LOOKING AT.
UH, IT'S JUST, UH, PEOPLE DON'T GET HAPPY ABOUT THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR POST COMMISSIONING.
SO, AND THAT WAS A BIG ISSUE THE LAST TIME.
YEAH, WE'LL DISCUSS, UH, MORE MORE AT LENGTH WITH OUR SUBCOMMITTEES.
ONE FINAL THOUGHT, RON KAMIS IS THAT THE NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE IS THE YEAR PRIOR TO YEP, MM-HMM.
AND SO THE NEXT N E C WILL COME OUT IN LATE THIS YEAR FOR THE 23 VERSION.
SO WE MAY NEED TO REVIEW THAT NEXT YEAR BECAUSE WE WERE, WE WERE PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT ONE AS WELL.
IT, IT DEPENDS ON HOW QUICKLY WE WANT TO TRY TO ADOPT THAT CODE.
'CAUSE WE HAVE NOT ADOPTED THE 20 YET, OBVIOUSLY, FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.
IS THERE ANYTHING AT THE STATE LEVEL, JEREMY OR CRYSTAL, THAT WOULD PREVENT? I THINK RON'S MADE A GOOD POINT.
IF THERE'S JUST ANOTHER YEAR BEFORE THE NEW N E C COMES OUT THAT ON THE STATE LEVEL, SINCE THE STATE ADAPT ADOPTED THE, UH, BACK IN 99 OR 20TH, THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, I GUESS THERE'S 21, UH, THAT WE HAD TO ADOPT THE CODE.
IS THERE ANYTHING WITH PREVENTION SAY, WELL, YOU HAVE TO ADOPT N E C NOW AND THEN NEXT YEAR YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO ADOPT THE NEW N E C.
SO WE GO OVER THAT EVERY YEAR AND, AND UH, OUR LEGAL TEAM HAS BROUGHT THAT UP TO US.
SO THEY DO ADOPT, THAT'S MORE T D L R ADOPTS IT.
SO ANYTHING THAT IS OVERSEEN AND REGULATED BY T
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D R, SUCH MANUFACTURED HOMES AND STUFF, THEY WERE KIND OF OVULATED TO IMMEDIATELY ADOPT THAT.AS SOON AS IT'S PUBLISHED, IT'S NOT RETROACTIVE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, BUILDING OUTSIDE OF THOSE OR REGULATED THINGS.
BUT WE DO DOUBLE CHECK THAT AND MAKE SURE NOTHING CHANGES.
SO WE ARE ALLOWED, I, I REALLY THINK THEY, THEY, THE STATE DOES HAVE A MINIMAL REQUIREMENT ACROSS THE BOARD FOR ANY JURISDICTIONS THAT DON'T ADOPT A CODE.
UH, BUT THOSE ARE FAIRLY OUTDATED, UH, YOU KNOW, BACK IN THE 2000 VERSIONS OF THE I CODES IN THE NECS.
UH, BUT SO THAT, BUT IT IS SOMETHING WE CHECK TO JUST MAKE SURE WE DO REVIEW THAT ONCE THAT GETS PUBLISHED EVERY YEAR, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T RETROACTIVELY GET KICKED INTO THE 2021.
OR, SORRY, SORRY, THIS WOULD BE THE 2023 WHEN THEY GO TO ADOPT THAT.
IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN, THEN WE WOULD KIND OF DO WHAT WE DID WITH THE SWIMMING PO UH, POOL CODE, PROBABLY DO AN EMERGENCY, GET SOMEBODY IN HERE, LET'S LOOK AT IT AND MAKE SURE THAT, 'CAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE VERY SPECIFIC TO CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
I THINK WE WANNA MAKE CHANGES THAT AREN'T, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA SEE THAT HAPPEN, UH, IN THAT WINDOW.
SO, WE'LL, WE'LL KEEP AN EYE ON THAT, BUT FOR THE TIME BEING, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOOD TO STILL BE UNDER THE 2017 AND BE UNDER THE 2020 WHEN THE 2023 COMES OUT.
SO, I'M SORRY, I DON'T WANNA KEEP BEATING ON THIS.
UH, I, I WANNA BE MORE EXPLICIT ABOUT THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE.
I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER AS A BOARD.
IT MIGHT BE THAT WE DECIDE AGAINST WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH CONSIDERING THAT MAYBE WE DON'T MOVE TO ADOPT THIS CURRENT CYCLE AND JUST GET ON BACK ON THE CYCLE WE WERE AT BEFORE, UM, FOR THE NEXT CODE TO, YOU KNOW, TO RON'S POINT ABOUT THE N E C COMING OUT, PRETTY, PRETTY MUCH ON THE HEELS OF WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO LOOK AT.
UM, I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE ALONE AND TO OUR CREDIT, BUT IN THE MAJOR METROPOLITANS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS OF EVEN BEING AT THE 2018 THAT WE'VE, THAT WE'VE CURRENTLY GOT, I THINK A LOT, YOU KNOW, LIKE AUSTIN, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE PAST 2015 YET.
UM, SO WE WOULDN'T BE PUTTING OURSELVES, YOU KNOW, BEHIND THE CURVE OF OTHER CITIES AND THE STATE IN TERMS OF HOW, HOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT YEAR OF CODE WE'VE ALREADY ADOPTED.
'CAUSE I THINK BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE CHANGE PROCESS IS SIGNIFICANT FOR, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO REACT TO THE CHANGES THAT, THAT COME OUTTA THE NEW CODE.
UM, AND I THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO MINIMIZE THAT IF WE, IF WE CAN.
SO JUST SOME, JUST SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT IF THE CHANGES ARE SIGNIFICANT, MICHAEL.
AND WE HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATING TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY FOR THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF THAT WE ARE GOING TO ADOPT THE 2021.
SO IT SHOULDN'T BE A SURPRISE.
WE'VE ACTUALLY GIVEN THEM MORE THAN AMPLE TIME TO PREPARE FOR THAT.
UM, THE, YOU HAD A COMMENT? YES.
UM, IN STUDYING THE CODES, THE, UH, I R C DOESN'T HAVE A, A WHOLE LOT.
THERE'S GONNA BE SOME MAJOR CHANGES IN THE I I, UH, B C AND THAT'S, I I WOULD SUGGEST WE, UH, ADOPT THE 2021, UH, BECAUSE OF THE CA UH, CATEGORY CHANGES THAT ARE, UH, IN THAT I B C AND MAYBE REEVALUATE WHETHER, IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT, REEVALUATE WHETHER YOU WANT TO ADOPT 2024 AT THAT POINT.
BUT I THINK THIS CYCLE IS GONNA BE AN IMPORTANT ONE FOR US TO ADOPT.
BRIAN SMITH, JUST, JUST TO GO WITH THAT, I, I THINK WE NEED TO, TO, SINCE THIS BOARD HAS NOT MET AS FAR AS GUIDANCE FOR THE CITY, WE NEED TO HAVE IT AND APPROVE.
UM, MY THOUGHT IS, IS, IS INSTEAD OF WAITING THE FULL THREE YEARS IS, IS TO GET BACK ON THE CYCLE WE WERE BEFORE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE IT CURRENTLY AND WE CAN MEET THE NEEDS OF, UH, THE CITIZENS AND IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS, GET IT BEFORE THE CODE COMES IN SIMILAR TO WHAT WE WERE DOING BEFORE, IT JUST MEANS WE HAVE TO MEET SOONER, UH, TO GET IT DONE INSTEAD OF DOING IT.
I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE TO BE ABLE TO GET IN FRONT OF THE CITIZENS AND GET THEIR FEEDBACK AND IF WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT, WE HAVE THE TIME TO DO IT INSTEAD OF DOING IT AFTERWARDS.
ONE OF, ONE OF THE OTHER BENEFITS I THINK TO GO AHEAD AND CONTINUING WITH THE PROCESS OF ADOPTING THE CURRENT SET OF CODES ON BACK ON THE ELECTRICAL SIDE, IS YOU'RE CONTINUING EDUCATION CLASSES RIGHT NOW ARE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW THE 2020 AND THAT CREATES CONTINUITY BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN WE IN THE FUTURE, WHEN, WHEN WE ADOPT THE 23.
TRYING TO GET OUTTA ALL BOOKS UP.
I MEAN, IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO PULL IN RIGHT HERE, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN BLOCK SOME TRAFFIC NOW.
THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR THE, FOR THE FEEDBACK.
UM, SO LEMME SEE WHERE I'M AT.
SO ONCE AGAIN, YEAH, SO WE'LL DO THE 90 DAY GRACE PERIOD.
SO THAT'S, SO LOOKING AT, THIS IS A MORE DETAIL OF OUR SCHEDULE.
SO THE MECHANICAL COMMITTEE, UH, WILL LIKE TODAY WILL BE LOOKING AT THE INTERNATIONAL MECHANICAL CODE.
AND HERE'S ANOTHER THING THAT, YOU KNOW, MIGHT DO A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THIS YEAR THAT WAS KIND OF BROUGHT TO ME BY MY EXECUTIVE TEAM YESTERDAY.
SO THIS ISN'T, UH, FOR SURE, BUT THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE IDEA OF WHAT IF WE ADOPTED THE FULL I R C INSTEAD OF SOME BEING IN THE I R C FOR TRADE AND SOME BEING, UH, TO THE, UH, SPECIFIC TRADE BOOK AND JUST GOING THAT ROUTE, UH, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'RE, THEY SHOULD BE FAIRLY, UH, UNIFORM EVEN WITH THE ELECTRICAL SIDE OF THINGS WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY TECHNICALLY PULL THE I R C FROM THE N E C AND PULL SPECIFIC ARTICLES.
UH, SO THAT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, NOTHING WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT AND SET ON TO TODAY.
THIS IS MORE FROM THE EXECUTIVE
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TEAM AND I'M ACTUALLY GETTINGUM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONE ITEM, UH, TO CONSIDER.
UH, THEN WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING TO, UH, TIE INTO THESE COMMITTEES, UH, SO WHAT WE'LL BE DOING IS DEFINITELY LOOKING AT THE I M C 2021, BUT POTENTIALLY ALSO ANY SECTION OF CHAPTERS THAT ARE PART OF THE I R C FOR MECHANICAL.
SO IF WE DID THIS PROCESS, THE GOAL WOULD BE TO KIND OF DIVIDE UP THE I R C AND LET THE BUILDING COMMITTEE THAT LOOKS AT THE I R C FOCUS ON THE BUILDING SIDE OF THAT, BUT LET THE TRADE SPECIFIC COMMITTEES LOOK AT THOSE SPECIFIC CHAPTERS AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TOGETHER AS A FULL BOARD TO KIND OF MELD THOSE ALL BACK TOGETHER.
SIR, MR. HAN, SO JEREMY IS WHAT YOUR EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE IS PROPOSING, IS THAT, UH, FOLLOW ONLY THE PROVISIONS OF THE I R C AS IT RELATES TO MECHANICAL AND ELECTRICAL INSTEAD OF HAVING TO FOLLOW THE N E C OR, OR THE I M C WHEN IT RELATES TO R FOUR AND R THREES? YES, SIR.
YEAH, NO, I UNDERSTAND THE RRC, BUT I'M JUST, I'M WONDERING WHAT THE DOWNSIDE IS THAT LET'S, IT'S, IT'S ANOTHER RABBIT TRAIL ABOUT WHAT'S DEFENDABLE IN COURT, WHAT'S INDUSTRY STANDARD, WHAT'S A PRECEDENT, STUFF LIKE THIS THAT YOU SAY, HEY, WE CHOSE NOT TO FOLLOW THE N E C, WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW THE I R C AND THERE'S AN ISSUE AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT LEGAL AND EVERYBODY SAYS, WELL, YOU'RE, YOU'RE PROTECTED IF YOU DO THAT.
AND, AND THAT IS THE INTENT OF THE I R C WHEN THEY DEVELOPED IT IS TO TRY TO MAKE IT A ONE SHOT, ONE BOOK FOR AN R FOUR AND R THREE.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, BUT YEAH, WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, DO DUE DILIGENCE AND MAKE SURE, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT, BUT THE, THE IDEA IS JUST INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE ADOPTING ALL CHAPTERS INSTEAD OF EXCLUDING SPECIFIC CHAPTERS.
UM, AND THEN THAT ALLOWS OUR, OUR BUILDERS TO KIND OF SAY, LOOK, I'M JUST GONNA BUY THIS ONE BOOK.
I DON'T NEED TO BUY ALL THESE OTHER ONES AND UNDERSTAND ALL THESE OTHER, WE'VE GOT A MEMORY FACILITY, BUT IT'S NOT FOR, SO IT'S GONNA MEET THE RRC GUIDELINES.
SO IT DOES, AND THAT'S EVEN, OKAY.
YEAH, THERE'S THE I C THAT ARE NOT IN THE N E C FOR EXAMPLE, WE MENTION THAT LAST TIME OUT.
SO I HAVE AN ELECTRICIANS THAT ARE FOLLOWING, BECAUSE C ALARM HAS TO FOLLOW N A C.
I SAID, NO, YOU NEED TO FOLLOW THIS TOO.
BUT AS FAR AS THE CITY'S CONCERNED, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, IT WOULD BE JUST THE N C GET THE COMMITTEE ABOUT.
JUST A REMINDER OF THE MICROPHONES FOR THE NOT A PROBLEM.
I, IF I DIDN'T HAVE IT CONSTANTLY ON, I'D FORGET TOO.
UM, SO THIS COMMITTEE, UH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS ABOUT TWO MEETINGS FOR THE MECHANICAL CODE.
UH, ANY ADDITIONAL MEETINGS WILL BE ADDED, BUT THOSE WOULD BE WHERE WE START OFF WITH, WE'LL START WITH THE I M C AND THE MECHANICAL COMMITTEE, UH, STARTING FEBRUARY 7TH, THE WEEK OF FEBRUARY.
UH, SO THIS WOULD BE THURSDAY, THE 17TH AND 24TH, UH, FROM ONE TO 4:00 PM AND THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO THE PLUMBING.
SO PLUMBING AND ELECTRICAL, WE'LL DO AT THE SAME TIME TO TRY TO SHORTEN OUR OVERALL SCHEDULE.
UH, SO THAT'S WHY I SAY THE, THERE'LL BE THREE MEETINGS FOR PLUMBING, EITHER MARCH 1ST OR THIRD MARCH, EIGHTH OR 10TH, UM, AND THEN FIFTH AND 17TH, AND THEN THE RETRO, UH, OPPOSITE OF THAT WOULD BE THE ELECTRICAL TEAM.
SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE'VE SET THOSE COMMITTEES, I'LL REACH OUT TO THOSE OUTSIDE OF THIS AND SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WORKS BEST FOR EACH COMMITTEE AND THEN SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA DO THE, THE PLUMBINGS ON TUESDAYS DURING THESE THREE WEEKS AND DO ELECTRICAL ON THURSDAYS OR VICE VERSA.
BUT WE, WE DON'T HAVE TO SET THOSE TODAY, BUT, UH, JUST AN F Y I THAT THOSE WILL BE RUNNING AT THE SAME TIME.
SO THE PLUMBING COMMITTEE WILL BE LOOKING AT THE I P C, THE FUEL GLASS CODE, AND THEN ANYTHING, UH, RELATED TO PLUMBING AND FUEL GAS AS PART OF THE I R C, IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT APPROACH.
AND THEN ONCE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, ANY ADDITIONAL MEETINGS AS NEEDED.
UH, THE GOAL WHEN I SAY THESE ADDITIONAL MEETINGS IS TO TRY TO KEEP 'EM WITHIN THAT SAME THREE WEEK WINDOW.
SO THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THINGS, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE DOING ABOUT A THREE HOUR WINDOW FOR EACH MEETING, I LOOK AT THAT AS, LOOK, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST GET DEDICATED HALF A DAY, HALF AN HOUR TO GET DOWN HERE, ROUGHLY PUT IN THREE HOURS, ABOUT HALF A DAY, HALF AN HOUR TO GET BACK TO WHEREVER YOU WERE, RESPECTIVELY WITHIN THE CITY.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE UP TO THE CALL OF THE COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S JUST DO RUN LONG, YOU KNOW, DO, YOU KNOW, GO INTO THE EVENING A LITTLE BIT IF, IF THAT WORKS, UM, OR, YOU KNOW, LET'S SCHEDULE ANOTHER MEETING, UH, FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT WE CAN KIND OF ASSESS THAT IN THOSE FIRST COUPLE WEEKS, WHETHER WE NEED TO HAVE TWO OR TWO MEETINGS THAT LAST WEEK TO WRAP IT UP.
AND OF COURSE, IF IT DOESN'T WORK OUT, THEN WE'LL TRY TO FIGURE A WAY TO FIT THOSE INTO, UH, THE OTHER MEETINGS THAT ARE GOING ON BEYOND THAT.
BUT JUST KEEPING THAT IN MIND, THE GOAL IS TO TRY TO SET EVERYTHING IN, IN THOSE WEEKS THAT I HAVE LISTED UNDER THESE COMMITTEES.
CHAIRMAN, IS IT APPROPRIATE, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INDIVIDUAL COMMITTEES, TO ASSIGN THE PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COMMITTEES? SO HOW MANY ARE, DID WE SAY WE HAVE TO HAVE? I MEAN, OUT OF THIS ROOM THAT, TO GET ON THESE COMMITTEES, FOUR TO SEVEN.
AND THOSE ARE TECHNICALLY AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF WE CAN WELL, SO TO MY POINT, UH, THE QUESTION WOULD BE LIKE OUR ALTERNATES THAT A LOT OF TIMES WANNA BE INVOLVED IN THESE, THEY WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING WE WOULD ASSIGN TO ANY OF THESE COMMITTEES.
WE WOULD, WE CAN, WE WOULD WHEN WE VOTE.
AS A BARE MINIMUM, WHEN IT COMES TO THESE COMMITTEES, WE HAVE TO ASSIGN FOUR
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PEOPLE TO, TO, TO TURN, UH, TO HAVE THEM BE A COMMITTEE.AND THEN AT THAT FIRST MEETING THEY CAN ADD DROP INCREASE.
YOU KNOW, IDEALLY WE'D GET IT ALL DONE NOW AND JUST, AND HAVE EVERYBODY HERE AT THE TABLE.
UH, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A FEW MEMBERS THAT AREN'T ABLE TO BE HERE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN SHOW UP TO THAT FIRST COMMITTEE MEETING AND GET VOTED INTO IT.
BUT WE DO NEED TO HAVE THE MINIMUM OF FOUR PRIMARY.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE HOW MANY COMMITTEES ALTOGETHER HERE? FIVE COMMITTEE? UH, SIX, I THINK SIX COMMITTEES, CORRECT.
SO WE'RE GONNA NEED FOUR FOR EACH ONE FROM THIS GROUP, CORRECT? I'M SORRY? MINIMUM, MINIMUM OF FOUR FROM THIS GROUP IN HERE TO BE ON THESE COMMITTEES, CORRECT? YEAH.
ARE ANY BOARD MEMBERS THAT AREN'T PRESENT THAT Y'ALL WANNA VOTE ON? OKAY, SO THAT MEANS EVERYBODY'S GOTTA PARTICIPATE.
PLUS, YEAH, WE NEED, NEED EVERYBODY TO TRY TO, HISTORICALLY WE'VE, SOME PEOPLE HAVE SERVED ON MORE THAN ONE.
AND THERE IS NO LIMIT ON ANY NUMBER OF COMMITTEES YOU ARE SIGNED UP IN.
AND WE TRY TO, YOU KNOW, BESIDES THE PLUMBING AND THE, AND THE ELECTRICAL, EVERY OTHER COMMITTEES WILL HAVE KIND OF THEIR OWN SET.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA OVERLAP ANY OTHER COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
UH, SO, UH, BUT THAT BEING SAID, AND WE'LL GET THIS IN A SECOND, THE I B C IS GONNA TAKE SIX MEETINGS OVER THREE WEEKS.
SO THAT ONE, YOU KNOW, UH, WE WILL BE DOING OR ARE ANTICIPATING DOING TWO MEETINGS A WEEK TO GET THROUGH THE I B C.
SO TO MR. HANLEY'S POINT, I THINK YES, WE SHOULD START SIGNING, STARTING WITH THIS FIRST COMMITTEE.
IS THAT OKAY? OR FINISH THE PRESENT? LEMME FINISH THE PRESENTATION.
AND THEN I CAN COME BACK TO THESE.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, REAL FAST, AL COMMITTEE NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE AND ANYTHING THAT TIES TO THE I R C, UH, WE'LL BE MEETING AT THE SAME TIME, THE SAME THREE WEEKS AS THE PLUMBING.
SO THOSE DATES ARE MARCH 3RD OR FIRST, UH, SWIMMING POOL COMMITTEE.
SO THIS ONE I ANTICIPATE ONLY HAVING ONE WEEK, UH, JUST TO KINDA GET IT DONE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE ADOPTED THIS 2020, THE 2018 RECENTLY WHEN THE STATE REQUIRED US TO, AND THERE WAS SOME FAIRLY MINOR THINGS.
WE REALLY KIND OF FOLLOWED WHAT EVERY OTHER OTHER CITY WAS DOING WITHIN THE STATE IN WHICH A LOT OF THE INDUSTRY, UH, PROFESSIONALS WERE KIND OF SAYING, THIS MAKES SENSE.
AND IT REALLY WAS MORE TO TIE BACK INTO TOSS AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE KIND OF WHAT KICKS IN FOR THE DEPARTMENT INDUSTRY.
UH, SO I DON'T ANTICIPATE THIS BEING TOO MUCH OF ONE.
SO WE REALLY JUST HAVE ONE BUDGETED FOR ONE WEEK.
UM, AND THAT ONE WOULD BE AN OVERLAP.
I DID KINDA MENTION THAT WE, WE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE, IN THE, IN THE CYCLE.
UM, BUT THAT ONE WOULD, UM, KINDA WE'LL FIT THAT ONE IN WHERE WE CAN JUST 'CAUSE, UH, BUT I WANTED TO KEEP THIS AS A SEPARATE COMMITTEE JUST BECAUSE IT DOES TOUCH ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING BUILDING.
IT DOES IMPACT A LOT OF PEOPLE.
AND OF COURSE, UM, THE TRADER OR THE PROPERTY OWNERS AS WELL.
MR. ROSS, FOR THE MOST PART, THE SWIMMING POOL CODE DEALS MOSTLY, OR ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY WITH SINGLE FAMILY KIND OF POOLS, CORRECT? NO, IT'S, IT'S FOR COMMERCIAL AS WELL.
IT'S, IT'S FOR ALL, FOR ANY PERMITABLE POOL.
UH, BUT WE DID TELL, YOU KNOW, WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THE, THAT ALL THAT TYPE OF STUFF IS ALSO RE REGULATED AT THE STATE LEVEL.
SO WE, WHEN WE ADOPTED IT, WE TRIED TO KEEP IT PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH THE STATE REQUIRES, AND THAT WAS REALLY THE ONLY AMENDMENTS WE HAD, WAS TO SAY, UH, TAKE THIS SECTION OUT AND PUT IN WHAT THE STATE REQUIRES.
UH, SO IT'S FAIRLY CONSISTENT.
UH, WE DID TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ADDING SOME STUFF THAT SAUL'S HAD, BUT WE KIND OF PULLED THAT OUT AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? SAULS CAN, YOU KNOW, REGULATE THEIR OWN STUFF.
WE DON'T NEED TO START REGULATING IT FOR 'EM IN THEIR OWN CODES, UH, BUILDING COMMITTEE.
SO, UH, THIS ONE IS THE ONE THAT DOES KIND OF DO THE HEAVY LIFT.
IT DOES, UH, I THINK FIVE OF THE CODES, UH, I B C, SO THIS WILL BE SIX MEETINGS OVER A THREE WEEK PERIOD, MARCH 21ST, 24TH, UM, THROUGH APRIL.
UM, AND THEN MEETINGS AS NEEDED.
UH, BUT SIX IS WHAT WE NEEDED LAST TIME.
UH, SO WE'RE KIND OF HOPING THAT THAT CAN BE DONE.
UH, THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO THE I R C, WHICH SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT, UH, LESS NOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO THE PROCESS OF A LOT OF THOSE CHAPTERS BEING HANDLED BY THE, THE TRADE COMMITTEES, THEN WE HAVE LESS TO LOOK AT.
SO LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, OUR LAST CODE CYCLE, THIS COMMITTEE LOOKED AT ALL THOSE DIFFERENT TRADE SECTIONS AND HOW THEY WERE BEING IMPACTED.
UH, SO WE, IF WE DID THE PROCESS OF JUST ADOPTING THE I R C AND THAT'S IT, UH, THAT WOULD LITERALLY REDUCE AND WE MAY, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO SAVE A WEEK FROM THIS ONE.
WE'LL KIND OF SEE HOW THAT GOES.
UH, THE I F C WOULD BE THE NEXT ONE THAT WE LOOK AT.
UH, WE'LL COORDINATE, UH, WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE, HAVE THEM COME IN.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS ONE I ANTICIPATE BEING THREE WEEKS LAST, LAST GUIDE.
SO, UH, CODE CYCLE WAS DO REQUIRE A FEW ADDITIONAL MEETINGS, BUT THAT SPECIFIC TO THE RETROACTIVE A TWO, UH, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANYTHING RETROACTIVE ON THIS ONE.
UH, SO I, I DON'T SEE AS MANY, UM, MEETINGS AS NEEDED, BUT, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WE'LL HAVE TO SEE HOW THAT GOES.
UM, AND THEN FINALLY, THE I E B C, UH, WE ONLY HAVE ONE WEEK SET UP FOR THAT ONE, UH, FAIRLY SHALLOW BOOK TO, UH, GET THROUGH AND WE CAN KIND OF INCORPORATE THAT INTO SOME OTHER MEETINGS AS NEEDED IF, IF WE NEED TO, UH, WITH THAT COMMITTEE.
THEN FINALLY, UH, WHAT WE'LL BE DOING, KIND OF THE TAIL END OF ALL OF THIS IS THE ENERGY COMMITTEE, UH, LOOKING AT THE I E C C AND ANY ENERGY, UH, REQUIREMENTS IN THE I R C, UM, AND LOOKING AT THREE MEETINGS FOR THAT.
UM, WE'LL BE DOING A LOT OF, UM, STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS AND STUFF LIKE THAT PRIOR TO THAT.
AND OF COURSE, WE'LL LET THE COMMITTEE OF THAT KNOW ABOUT THOSE MEETINGS.
THOSE WON'T BE COMMITTEE MEETINGS, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE MORE OF A PUBLIC MEETING TYPE FORUM.
UH, BUT WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF INPUT ON THE ENERGY CODE.
WE ANTICIPATE THAT ONE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THREE COMMITTEE MEETINGS EXCEPT FOR THAT.
BUT THE GOAL IS TO REALLY BE HASHING OUT A WHOLE LOT OF THIS STUFF BEFORE
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WE GET TO THAT AND PRESENTING MORE TO THE COMMITTEE AS HERE'S WHAT THE PUBLIC'S LOOKING FOR, INSTEAD OF THE PUBLIC HAVING TO GO TO THE COMMITTEE SPECIFICALLY.BUT OF COURSE, THEY'LL STILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AS, AS NEEDED.
AND THAT CONCLUDES, UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE.
AND WE CAN MOVE INTO, AND I CAN CYCLE BACK TO THOSE MEETINGS, UM, TIMES AND STUFF LIKE THAT AS Y'ALL TALK ABOUT THE COMMITTEES.
UH, BUT I'LL HAND IT BACK OVER TO THE CHAIR TO DISCUSS, UH, ASSIGNING THE COMMITTEES.
JEREMY, DID YOU HAVE PROPOSED DATES FOR THE I B C? YES.
UH, THERE WAS ONE THAT, THERE WAS ONE THAT DIDN'T HAVE PROPOSED DATES.
THERE WAS, I'M IN THE I E C, JUST THE MAY 26TH, THE BUILDING COMMITTEE.
SO THAT BREAKS IT DOWN INTO THE I B C I R C AND I C YEAH.
YOU KNOW, JEREMY, UM, WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT DOING WHEN WE WERE GONNA DO THESE PRIMARY THURSDAY, SECONDARY TUESDAY, BUT IF I LOOK AT THE I B C, I'VE GOT, UH, MARCH 21ST, 24TH, APRIL 29TH, AND 31ST.
THIS ONE IS GONNA BE SIX MEETINGS OVER THREE WEEKS.
THAT'S THE INTENT FOR THE I B C TO KEEP IT ON THE TRACK.
SO ELIMINATING, UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE AND MOVING ON
[4. Vote to establish committees to review the family of building codes for future adoption by the City of San Antonio with proposed amendments]
TO NUMBER FOUR.WE COULD, YOU WANNA START THIS FIRST COMMITTEE? YEP.
WHAT IS THE FIRST ONE? GO BACK.
YEAH, LET ME, UH, I'M GONNA STEP OVER HERE SO I CAN KIND OF RUN THE SHOW FROM THE COMPUTER AND TYPE IN, IN AS Y'ALL GO INSTEAD OF TRYING TO HAND WRITE ALL THIS DOWN.
FIRST ONE FOR SECOND, CORRECT.
WELL, DO YOU GUYS WANNA START WITH THE BUILDING COMMITTEE? 'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE LIKE THE HEAVIEST LIFT.
AND IF YOU COMMIT TO THE BUILDING COMMITTEE, MAYBE YOU'RE GONNA SECOND GUESS C COMMITTING TO ANOTHER SUBCOMMITTEE.
WE HAVE THE LIST THAT WE CREATED LAST YEAR, THOUGH, MAYBE 'CAUSE IT'S A STARTING POINT OR START OVER.
I MISSED, I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE THAT? IF Y'ALL WANT ME TO OPEN IT, BUT, UH, NO, OVER, WE GOT TOO MANY PEOPLE NEW NOW, SO IT'S, I THINK MIKE'S NAME WAS ON ALL OF THE COMMITTEES.
SO I KNOW LIKE ON THIS I B C AND I'M LOOKING AT THOSE DATES, FOR ME, I'M, I CERTAINLY WOULD WANNA BE ON THAT COMMITTEE, BUT I KNOW I'M OUT TOWN THE FIFTH AND 7TH OF APRIL, THAT'S ALREADY PRESET UP.
ACTUALLY IT'S BOSTON, BUT, UH, BUILDER 20.
WELL, THAT'S ALSO IF YOU DO HAVE AN ALTERNATE OR IF YOU ARE AN ALTERNATE, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE YOUR OPTIONS.
JEREMY, ARE THE DATES NEGOTIABLE? THEY ARE.
YOU KNOW, WE WANNA TRY TO NARROW 'EM DOWN NOW.
AND I WOULDN'T SAY WE SHOULD HASH THAT OUT RIGHT HERE.
UH, MY GOAL WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE ARE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, LET'S LET, I WANNA KEEP 'EM WITHIN THAT WEEK AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
UM, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, ONCE THE COMMITTEE'S SET, I'M HAPPY TO START REACHING OUT TO THOSE COMMITTEES OVER THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS AND ADJUST THOSE AS NEEDED AND FINE TUNE 'EM AND, AND, AND SET 'EM WITH THE IDEA OF, OKAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PRETTY WELL SET, BUT THE ONLY THING WE WOULD DO IS ADD ADD MEETINGS TO THAT AS NEEDED.
AND THAT'S WHERE I'M REALLY HOPING, YOU KNOW, LET'S, LET'S TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME PRIMARIES AND ALTERNATES SO THAT WE CAN KEEP COMMITTED TO THOSE MEETING DAYS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND GET THOSE OUT TO THE PUBLIC NOW AND, UH, START THAT OUTREACH.
SO FOR PURPOSES TODAY, YOU NEED ONE PRIMARY AND PREFERABLY THREE ALTERNATES? NO, NO, IT WOULD BE, I NEED FOUR PRIMARY MINIMUM.
AND I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, YOU KNOW, ADD 'EM TO THE ALTERNATIVE.
I KNOW THIS ONE, YOU KNOW, IT DOES HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE VERY INTERESTED.
SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY WE, YOU KNOW, IN THIS ONE, TYPICALLY WE DO GET THE FULL SEVEN.
SO ON THIS ONE, JEREMY, YOU'RE DOING THE I B C I R C TEAM BUILDING CODE AND THE FIRE CODE? THAT'S CORRECT.
BUT THIS IS BROKEN INTO FOUR COMMITTEES OR ONE COMMITTEE? ONE COMMITTEE.
SO IT'S THE BUILDING COMMITTEE.
I'D LIKE TO BE THE PRIMARY, I WANNA BE THE ALTERNATE.
JOE, MIKE, ARE YOU WANTING TO BE A PRIMARY? OKAY.
I KNOW BRIAN CAN, I, YOU CAN BE ALT, HE'S MY ALTERNATE.
PARDON ME, JOE, HE'S YOUR, HE'S MY ALTERNATE.
BECAUSE I CAN'T MAKE IT ALL THE PRIMARY ALTERNATE.
WELL, ONCE AGAIN, WE NEED THE PRI THE ALTERNATE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE SPECIFIC TO YOUR TRADE.
SO ROBERT, IF YOU, IF THERE IS NO ALTERNATE, IT CAN BE ANYBO, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO STEP IN, IT CAN BE AN ALTERNATE TO ROBERT.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.
SO, UH, SO MIKE, SO JUST TO CLARIFY, MIKE AND I COULD BOTH BE PRIMARIES ON THE COMMITTEE.
IT YOU CAN, BUT WE, YOU BOTH WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO VOTE.
SO WE KIND OF LOSE THAT SPOT A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT ALSO MAKES IT HARDER TO GET FOR HIM.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD URGE AGAINST THAT.
BUT IF ULTIMATELY WE NEED TO, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, IF MIKE'S NOT THERE, THEN YOU CAN VOTE AS THE YEAH, CORRECT.
AND I'LL, I'D BE A PRIMARY, I'D BE OKAY WITH THAT.
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AND MR. SMITH, DID YOU SAY YOU HAD SOMEBODY, WAS SOMEBODY INTERESTED IN YOUR YES, SIR.JOE, JUST GO AHEAD AND BE HERE.
UM, MR. HENLEY, YOU WANT, SORRY.
AND THEN I KNOW MR. BURRIS HAS KAREN, AND I APOLOGIZE IF I MISSPELLING ANYBODY'S NAMES WHILE TYPING THE ZE.
UH, MR. BURRIS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE A PRIMARY? YES, PLEASE.
UH, WE STILL HAVE ONE SPOT AVAILABLE AND NOT REQUIRED.
WE DO HAVE EVERYTHING WE NEED FOR THE TIME BEING OR IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE AN ALTERNATE FOR ANY OF THESE THREE POSITIONS.
ONCE AGAIN, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE THEIR ALTERNATE, BE A PRIMARY AND BE SOMEBODY'S ALTERNATE FOR THIS COMMITTEE.
AND ONCE AGAIN, NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS COMMITTEE, ONCE IT'S VOTED ON, AND UM, I THINK WE CAN JUST DO A UNANIMOUS VOTE, CORRECT? JOSEPH? CORRECT.
ALRIGHTYY, UM, CHAIR, I LEAVE IT UP TO YOU ON HOW YOU'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD.
WE DO NOT NEED TO DO A ROLL CALL ON THAT.
NO, I MEAN, UNLESS THERE'S, UNLESS IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S NOT UNANIMOUS.
ALL IN FAVOR FOR? NO, I'M SORRY.
WE CAN DO IT FOR ALL THE END, FOR ALL THE COMMITTEES AT ONE TIME.
ALL RIGHT, SO NOW WE STILL HAVE THE I M C IF WE WANNA START THERE.
SO I SAY I M C I R C HERE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THE I R C IS SPECIFIC TO MECHANICAL SECTIONS AND CHAPTERS.
MOST MY ELECTRICIANS, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, NO, YOU CAN BE THE PRIMARY.
THEY DON'T LOOK AT THE RRC, YOU KNOW.
I, THEY HAD, ILL PROBABLY LET JEFF KNOW TO COME OUT AND MAYBE HE CAN BE, YOU KNOW, HE CAN GO AHEAD AND BE OFFICIALLY ON TIED IN AS YOUR IMC, RIGHT? YES.
SO YOU STILL NEED TWO MORE MEMBERS OF THE MECHANICAL? YEAH, I'LL DO THAT ONE TOO.
WE NEED ONE MORE, ONE MORE MINIMUM, IDEALLY TWO MORE.
'CAUSE I CAN, I GET A FREEBIE WHEN IT COMES TO QUORUM.
I LIKE, LIKE HAVING FIVE THAT I CAN CALL ON.
IS THERE ANYBODY'S NOT HERE THAT WE WANNA
WE DON'T AND WE CAN'T ADD 'EM AFTER THE FACT.
WE CAN, I MEAN WE, LIKE I SAID, WE'LL PROBABLY I'D LIKE TO SEE IF SCOTT WOULD BE WILLING TO AT LEAST BE AN ALTERNATE ON IT.
UH, BUT SINCE WE HAVE HIS ALTERNATE ALREADY ON THERE, I WOULDN'T WANNA TAKE UP TWO SPOTS WITH THAT.
SO MOVING INTO THE PLUMBING, BRIAN PUT ME DOWNLOAD IT AGAIN.
AND SPENCER'S STILL A ON, ISN'T HE? HE'S STILL A BOARD MEMBER, CORRECT? HE'S JUST NOT HERE.
SO I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO Y'ALL ON IF, IF YOU WANT TO ADD HIM WHILE HE'S NOT HERE.
AND IF GEORGIA, IF YOU WANNA BE THE PRIMARY OR THE ALTERNATE, YOU KNOW THAT ABSOLUTELY PUT 'EM ON THERE.
THAT'S WHAT HE GETS FROM MISSING
WHO WAS THAT? IS THAT MARK? MARK
HE'S NOT HERE IF Y'ALL WANTED, YOU KNOW, BUT HE IS ONE OF THE PLUMBERS THAT IS ON THE BOARD.
UM, ANYBODY ELSE ON THE PLUMBING SIDE? SURE.
JEREMY, YOU WANT TO PUT ME BACK UP ON THE MECHANICAL? OKAY.
THAT'LL CLEAR OUT THE MECHANICAL.
AT LEAST HAVE A MINIMAL OBJECT TO IT.
LAST TIME DID YOU HAVE A MECHANICAL PLUMBING? I'M IMPRESSED BOTH HIM AND I DID.
THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOT OF FIRE OVERLAP ON THE MECHANICAL.
DO YOU HAVE THE DATES, JEREMY? LIKE FOR EACH OF 'EM? YES, I DO.
UM, I APOLOGIZE THAT BROUGHT THAT DOWN FOR MECHANICAL'S.
SO LOOKING BACK AT, SO THE MECHANICAL WILL BE THE FIRST ONE.
SO THAT'D BE STARTING ON THE 17TH AND THE 24TH RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO THAT'D BE THE THURSDAY, 17TH AND 24TH, RIGHT? I CAN'T DO THOSE.
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IT'S RODEO,I'M SAYING, HEY, I'M ALREADY SKIPPING WORK FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
WELL, I MEAN WE DO HAVE QUORUM.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, ONCE AGAIN WE, WE CAN STILL ADD AT A LATER DATE, UH, AT THIS COMMITTEE AS LONG AS WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THREE MEMBERS THERE.
SO I THINK WE'RE GOOD THROUGH PLUMBING AND MECHANICAL.
UM, THEN THERE'S THE ENERGY AND THE SWIMMING OR THE ELECTRICAL AND SWIMMING POOL.
ANYBODY, BRIAN? AND I'D LIKE TO BE HIS ALTERNATE.
ANYBODY ELSE ON THE OTHER SIDE? GREAT.
DALE PEACH SHOULD BE ON THERE TOO.
ALTERNATE OR IS THAT PRIMARY? I, I HAVE AN ALTERNATE HERE.
SO YEAH, I MEAN I WOULD RECOMMEND IT, UM, JUST BECAUSE IF THEY'RE EVER THERE, AND ONCE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE GOOD THING IS YOU CAN BE THERE, YOU CAN TALK, IT WOULD JUST BE THE FINAL VOTE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, UH, THE DEVIL'S THERE, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO, UH, MR. EVER.
SO YOU PUT YOUR ON AS A ALTERNATE OR AS A PRIMARY ALTERNATE.
SO LONG WOULD BE AN ALTERNATE.
WHO WAS THAT? MR. WHO WOULD BE AN ALTERNATE? BLUE VON LON CULBERTSON.
SO WHAT WAS IT ABOUT LON? WE MAKE HIM AN ALTERNATE TO SOMEBODY ALTERNATE TO EDWARD.
YEAH, HE'S LAN'S AN ALTERNATE TO EDWARD'S WAY.
WELL, NO, HE IS BUT HE CAN, HE COULD BE A PRIMARY.
UH, ACTUALLY SO WE HAVE TWO PRIMARY, PRIMARY MASTER ELECTRICIANS.
AH, BUT HE COULD BE A PRIMARY.
IF MARK'S NOT THERE, THEN YOU'D BE THE PRIMARY.
EDWARD IS THE, IS ALTERNATE TO GARY AS THE OPEN ANY, COULDN'T ANY OF THE ALTERNATE YES.
COME AT ANY LIKE YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
SO LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ALWAYS GONNA BE HERE.
YOU, YOU CAN COME, YOU CAN SPEAK, YOU CAN DO EVERYTHING, BUT MAKE THOSE FINAL DECISION VOTES, WHICH FOR THE MOST PART ARE USUALLY UNANIMOUS.
SO I MEAN IT, YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST PART IS WE WANT Y'ALL THERE AS THE SUBJECT, SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT, UH, TO GIVE US AND HELP US WEIGH IN AND BE PART OF THAT CONVERSATION OF ANY, UH, AMENDMENTS OR REMOVAL AMENDMENTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
COULD, COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE, UH, FROM THE BOARD HERE WITH PRIMARY AND ALTERNATE AND THE COMMITTEE WITH PRIMARY AND ALTERNATE? CORRECT.
SO THE BOARD THAT'S VOTED AT A CITY COUNCIL LEVEL AND IT'S SET, YOU ARE EITHER A PRIMARY AND ALTERNATE.
IF YOUR PRIMARY IS HERE, YOU CAN'T VOTE.
YOU CAN STILL BE HERE, YOU CAN STILL TALK AND DISCUSS, BUT YOU JUST WON'T ABLE TO VOTE.
WHATEVER I SET HERE, WE'LL VOTE ON TODAY.
AND IF YOU SAY I WANNA BE THE PRIMARY, EVEN IF YOU'RE AN ALTERNATE ON THE BOARD, YOU'RE THE PRIMARY ON THAT, ON THAT COMMITTEE.
AND YOU'RE, SO AS WE KINDA SAID, EVEN IF, IF YOU'RE AN ALTERNATE AND YOU WANT TO BE THE PRIMARY ON THE COMMITTEE AND YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE WILLIAM AND BOTH KAREN ON THE, ON THE BUILDING ONE.
IF KAREN SAID, HEY, I WANNA BE THE PRIMARY, AND WILLIAM SAYS, THAT'S FINE, I'LL BE THE ALTERNATE.
AND ON THE COMMITTEE, THAT'S HOW THEY'RE SET UP.
SO IT'S DO YOU WANNA BE ON, SO YOU CAN STILL BE A PRIMARY FOR THIS, FOR THIS COMMITTEE.
WELL, YOU NEED ONE MORE, DON'T YOU? WE STILL NEED MORE, BUT, BUT IT WOULD JUST, IT WOULD BENEFIT ME TO HAVE, WE NEED, WE NEED ONE MORE FOR QUORUM.
WELL, NO, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE BOTH OF YOU'LL, YOU BE THE PRIMARY AND I'LL BE YOUR, THERE YOU GO.
AND THEN YOU PUT JOHN MARK AS MY ALTERNATE.
OH, YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND PUT GARY DOWN? YEAH, I KNOW.
IT'S GOT A WEIRD, WHERE DO I HAVE HIM AT? OKAY.
UM, ANYBODY ELSE ON THE ELECTRICAL?
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UH, ONCE AGAIN, THE GOOD THING ABOUT THIS ONE IS IF I HAVE FOUR OR IF I HAVE FIVE, I STILL NEED THREE AS A, AS A QUORUM.SO IF ANYBODY IS SOMEWHAT INTERESTED, EVEN IF, YOU KNOW, JUST GIVES ME MORE PEOPLE, I COM PESTER TO TRY TO GET THERE.
JEREMY, IF WE FIND SOMEBODY TO ADD TO THESE COMMITTEES AT A LATER DATE, HOW DO WE GET 'EM APPOINTED AND APPROVED BY THE BOARD? SO AS LONG AS WE HAVE ENOUGH TO CREATE THE BOARD AND WE HAVE A QUORUM ON THEIR, AT A COMMITTEE MEETING, THE COMMITTEE CAN ADD AND CHANGE AND DROP AS THEY NEED TO, AS LONG AS THEY MAINTAIN THE MINIMUM OF FOUR AT THE TIME.
AND THEY CAN ADD, MOVE PEOPLE FROM PRIMARY TO ALTERNATE, SET THEIR CHAIRS, ALL THAT TYPE OF STUFF.
SO REALLY WE JUST NEED TODAY A MINIMUM OF FOUR PRIMARIES TO CREATE THEM.
UM, AND THEN THOSE FOUR TO BE THERE FOR ANY MEETING TO START IT OFF.
UM, SO WE HAVE THE, UH, SWIMMING POOL.
SO ONCE AGAIN, THIS DOES IMPACT PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL, UH, AND BUILDING FOR THE MOST PART.
JOE, GO AHEAD AND PUT YOU DOWN.
UM, ANYBODY ELSE ON THE YEAH, I'LL, I'LL BE, UH, MARK BEUS ALTERNATE.
YOU DIDN'T SEE GEORGE'S HAND THOUGH? THANK YOU SIR.
OKAY, ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT.
ARE WE DONE? SO ONE, WELL WE STOPPED, BUT UH, WE HAD RON REACH BACK OUT AND, AND JOINED THE I M C, SO I THINK THAT WILL, OKAY.
UM, FOR THE RECORD PURPOSES, DO YOU WANT ME TO GO AHEAD AND SAY IT, JOSEPH OR ON MECHANICAL? OKAY.
UH, JOSEPH, THERE ANYTHING WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE THIS OFFICIAL BEYOND JUST THE VOTE? SHOULD I PUT IT ON THE RECORD BY SAYING IT OR HAVING IT ON VIDEO ENOUGH OR? YEAH, YOU CAN SAY AS YOU REFLECTED, UM, PRESENTATION ONE THING, SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIR, COULD YOU TURN ON YOUR MIC PLEASE? SORRY ABOUT THAT.
SO AT EACH UH, THE, THE FIRST MEETING OF EACH RESPECTIVE SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, THE SUBCOMMITTEE CAN, UH, APPOINT A CHAIR FOR THAT, THAT RESPECTIVE SUBCOMMITTEE.
AND THEN ALSO MOVE MEMBERS AROUND AS THEY SEE FIT.
YEAH, EACH, UH, RESPECTIVE SUBCOMMITTEE CAN, CAN OPERATE KIND OF INDEPENDENTLY AS, AS, AS THE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
SO, SO CAN WE MAKE THIS APPROVAL AS PER EACH COMMITTEE OR DO WE HAVE TO LIST EACH NAME? I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE LIST AS INDICATED ON THE COMPUTER SHEET AS JOE WAS TALKING ABOUT, UH, FOR APPROVAL.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND TO ACCEPT ALL THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT ARE DISPLAYED ON OUR DISPLAY, ON OUR SPREADSHEETS.
DO I HAVE A WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AND JEREMY JUST OUT OF, FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS HERE, CAN YOU SEND THAT LIST OUT TO EVERYBODY? YES SIR.
BE READY FOR A LOT OF WORK GUYS AND GIRLS, UH, AS WELL.
UH, JEREMY, YOU'LL BE SENDING ALSO WITH THOSE COMMITTEES, THE DATES CORRECT? I'LL GET WHAT WE HAVE OUT THERE CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW.
WE WANNA TRY TO GET THESE HASHED OUT AND SET IN STONE OVER THE NEXT WEEK OR SO.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SET IN STONE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING.
WE CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS, BUT THE GOAL IS TO REALLY MAKE THESE, UM, SET AND OUT TO THE PUBLIC CURRENTLY.
UM, WE STILL HAVE ONE MORE AGENDA.
WE HAVE ONE MORE AGENDA ITEM, ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
BOARD TO VOTE FOR THE SIGNED CODE COMMITTEE.
READY? LIDDELL WANTS TO BE ON IT.
OH, YOU DON'T WANNA DO IT? YEAH, I'LL BE HIS ALTERNATE.
PETE, YOU WANNA BE THE ALTERNATE TO LIDDELL? SURE.
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THERE'S JEREMY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THERE'S TWO PARTS OF BUILDING OF CITY CODES THAT REFLECT SIGNAGE CHAPTER 28 1, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE'S IN THE U D C.SO ALL THIS COMMITTEE IS DOING IS REVIEWING THE PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER 28.
YEAH, BUT THE, THE UNIF, THE CHAPTER 35 UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE ALSO HAS SIGNAGE REQUIREMENTS.
AND THEN MARK, THERE'S GONNA BE A ALTERNATE.
SO YOU STILL NEED TWO MORE? YES, SIR.
DON'T MAKE ME MAKE YOU VOLUNTEER.
THIS IS LIKE SWIMMING TOOL
UNLESS NOT, WHO'S NOT ON A COMMITTEE? IF, IF IF IF THEY'RE NOT ON THE COMMITTEE AND THEY'RE STILL, WHAT DO YOU DO HERE,
HOW MANY, HOW MANY MEETINGS DID YOU HAVE FOR THAT? HOW MANY MEETINGS DID YOU HAVE FOR? SO THAT ONE IS A LITTLE BIT SEPARATE.
WE, WE HAVEN'T HASHED THAT ONE OUT.
I MEAN WE, THE GOAL IS TO GET THAT WRAPPED UP, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT, WHAT THAT AGENDA IS GONNA LOOK LIKE.
UH, WE'LL BE DOING THAT KIND OF IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS.
SO IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO ANYBODY THAT HASN'T BEEN ON ANY OF THESE OTHER COMMITTEES TO KIND OF FOCUS ON THIS ONE A LITTLE BIT.
LET'S GO DRINKING EITHER BEFORE OR AFTER, SIR.
I MEAN I UNLESS GOT SOMETHING ELSE.
I JUST, 'CAUSE LIKE I SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING.
I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT SOUNDS LIKE, I MEAN WE DID A HEAVY LIFT ON THIS ONE LAST, ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND SO WE'RE HOPING THAT IT'S NOT GONNA TAKE A WHOLE LOT, BUT YOU KNOW, WE WANNA CAVEAT IT WITH, IT DOES HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC OPINION AND WE DO WANNA MAKE THAT OUT THERE.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT EVERY PUBLIC MEETING IN REGARDS TO THE KIND, UH, SIGN CODE WILL BE A COMMITTEE MEETING.
I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF, UH, STAKEHOLDER ELECTRIC SIDE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
I MEAN THAT, I MEAN THE DALE DOES HAVE THAT AS THE MASTER.
THERE'S ONLY A FEW ITEMS THAT WE NEED.
WELL, UNLESS THE CITY HAS BURN CHANGES, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
I, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE ON CORRIDOR AND THAT'LL BE HANDLED THROUGH THE U D C AND NOT THROUGH THIS COMMITTEE.
WELL THEN WE HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE BE YEAH, WE HAD FIVE OR SIX LAST TIME.
YEAH, I MEAN, AS LONG AS YOU'RE THERE, THAT FIRST ONE, AND I MEAN, REALLY WE JUST NEED THREE, YOU KNOW, WITH FOUR PEOPLE THERE.
I, I WILL ADD, UM, ON THE CHAPTER 28TH, THE SIGN, THERE'S A COURT CASE PENDING IN THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE, EVERYBODY'S WATCHING.
UM, SO I IMAGINE THESE MEETINGS WILL PROBABLY BE LATE IN THE CYCLE TO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT DECISION TO BE MADE BECAUSE IT COULD AFFECT, UM, THE, THE CHAPTER IS THAT A FREE SPEECH CASE? I'M SORRY? THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
CASE REAGAN VERSUS CITY OF AUSTIN.
IT'S, IT'S THE, UH, THE DEFINITION OF ON-PREMISE AND OFF-PREMISE
SO IF WE HAVE THAT ONE, THEN WE JUST NEED TO VOTE ON THIS ONE FOR THE SIGN CODE COMMITTEE, CORRECT? CORRECT.
UH, MOTION TO APPROVE ROBERT HENLEY MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CHAPTER 28 SIGN CODE COMMITTEE AS DISPLAYED ON THE SPREADSHEET, CORRECT.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NEXT ITEM IS DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
UH, ONCE AGAIN, JEREMY MCDONALD DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
UH, NOT A WHOLE LOT TO DISCUSS.
I KNOW WE'VE GONE OVER QUITE A BIT.
UH, MOSTLY I JUST WANNA GIVE Y'ALL A HEADS UP THAT WE ARE IN THE FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE REPORT SEASON.
I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT'S GONNA AFFECT, UM, NEW APPOINTEES.
UH, BUT I DO KNOW THAT WE ARE GONNA BE SENDING OUT THE EMAILS.
I'LL TRY TO GET THOSE OUT TO Y'ALL NEXT WEEK.
UH, BUT THAT, THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ONE.
UH, SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, DOING THE REPORT AND GETTING THAT IN.
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HAVING TO HOUND Y'ALL.THE GOOD THING IS WE'LL BE ALL IN COMMITTEES, SO I'LL SEE YOU ALL IN PERSON.
I CAN HAND YOU A LITTLE BIT, BIT MORE THAN NORMAL.
UH, BUT WE DID LOSE TWO MEN MEMBERS FROM THIS LAST YEAR.
SO WE DID HAVE TWO MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE OR THIS BOARD THAT DID NOT COMPLETE THOSE, AND WERE REMOVED, UH, FROM THE BOARD.
SO YOU WILL BE REMOVED IF YOU DON'T NOT COMPLETE THESE.
UH, SO PLEASE, PLEASE KEEP THAT AS, UH, YOU KNOW, BE LOOKING FOR THOSE EMAILS AND COMPLETE THOSE AS SOON AS YOU CAN.
UH, JEREMY, IS THAT EVERYBODY INCLUDING THE HOLDOVERS? CORRECT.
THE ONLY ONES I'M NOT 100% SURE ON WILL BE THE NEW APPOINTEES JUST BECAUSE IT'S TECHNICALLY A F D R FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2021.
SO THEY, THEY PROBABLY WON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
UH, BUT ANYBODY ELSE, UH, WOULD FALL INTO THAT.
AND I DON'T THINK THE REAPPOINTMENTS Y'ALL DID ANYTHING THAT'S NOT PART OF THE REAPPOINTMENT PROCESS, RIGHT? YOU JUST FILLED OUT THE APPLICATION.
Y'ALL DIDN'T DO ANYTHING ON THE FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE REPORT.
I THINK THE NEW PEOPLE HAD TO F WE FILLED OUT SOME LIKE THAT, CORRECT? YEAH, AND THAT'S, YEAH.
AND LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT SURE, I CAN'T REMEMBER.
WE'VE DONE THOSE FORMS IN A WHILE, BUT, UH, BUT THAT, THAT IS PART OF IT.
WE WANTED JUST, UM, BUT WE WILL NEED EVERYBODY.
I JUST, I'LL FIND OUT ABOUT THE NEW APPOINTMENTS, IF, IF THOSE WILL BE PART OF THAT OR NOT AND SEND YOU THE EMAILS.
BUT I'LL BE SENDING OUT EVERYBODY IN THE SAME EMAIL THAT I, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY SEND EVERY YEAR.
HERE'S YOUR USERNAME AND PASSWORD.
I'LL LOG IN AND COMPLETE THAT.
IF Y'ALL RUN INTO SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES, WHICH I KNOW IS PRONE TO HAPPEN, UH, LET ME KNOW AND I'LL HELP YOU GET WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND GET YOUR INFORMATION.
SO ONCE YOU DO IT FIRST YEAR, IT'S EASIER.
UH, AND THAT IS EVERYTHING FROM STAFF.
IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, THEN I NEED A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT.
ROBERT HENLEY, MOVE APPROVAL FOR ADJOURNMENT.
COMMITTEE IS VERY MUCH ADJOURNED.
ALL RIGHT, SO THE MEETING'S OVER.
UM, FIRST ANYBODY THAT HAD TO SIGN THE.