* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] LET'S BEGIN. ALRIGHT, GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. UM, THE TIME IS 1 0 7. THIS IS THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND WE ARE GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING INTO SESSION IF WE COULD FIRST HAVE OUR SPANISH INTERPRETATION SERVICES STATEMENT AND ALSO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH C D C RECOMMENDATIONS AND FOR THE SAFETY OF ALL OUR RESIDENTS AND THOSE PRESENT, WE STRONGLY ENCOURAGE ALL ATTENDEES TO WEAR A MASK. UH, THERE ARE MASKS AVAILABLE, MAYBE SHOULD YOU NEED THEM UP HERE AT THE FRONT. UM, PLEASE GO AHEAD. SPANISH INTERPRETATION. THANK YOU. HELLO. GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS ANNOUNCEMENT IS TO INFORM YOU THAT WE DO HAVE SPANISH INTERPRETATION SERVICES AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE NEEDING THESE SERVICES. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO APPROACH THE INTERPRETER CABIN LOCATED RIGHT WHERE THE RED CURTAINS ARE AT, UH, RIGHT NEXT TO THE ENTRANCE . ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. MY NAME IS JOHN BUSTAMANTE AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT FIVE ZONING COMMISSIONER. I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION IN THE SESSION. THE TIME IS 1 0 9. UH, I LIKE TO DO ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT. THE ROS, UH, REPRESENT DISTRICT NINE, CHARLES FUENTES, DISTRICT THREE, LAVADO ORTIZ, DISTRICT EIGHT, TAYLOR WATSON, DISTRICT TWO, MARK WHITE DISTRICT 10, SUMMER GRADE HOUSE DISTRICT ONE. ROB S SIPES, DISTRICT SEVEN KEN HUIT, DISTRICT SIX AND COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL DALE MCDANIEL FOR THE MAYOR. ALRIGHT, STAFF IS A QUORUM PRESENT. A QUORUM IS PRESENT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALRIGHT, PRIOR TO [Zoning Items  ] COMMENCING OUR MEETING, UH, I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE PRESENT STAFF IF YOU WOULD. SO BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE MAKE SURE TO TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF. THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION. YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER. STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST. PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN X INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION. FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THE REQUEST FOR THOSE THAT SIGN UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING. YOU WILL BE CALLED AN ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION. YOU'LL BE INFORMED WHAT THAT YOUR THREE MINUTES ARE UP. FOR THOSE THAT WILL LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES. AND THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED INTO SPEAK. THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS. THANK YOU CHAIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. UM, STAFF IF YOU WOULD, COULD YOU GO OVER THE WITHDRAWN AND POSTPONE ITEMS AFTER I SAY ONE THING? UH, ONE OF THE ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA TODAY WAS ITEM NUMBER 17, WHICH WAS THE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON PROPOSED 2021 U D C AMENDMENTS. UM, THERE ARE NO AMENDMENTS TO BE DISCUSSED TODAY, SO THAT ITEM WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED IF YOU ARE PRESENT FOR THAT. I DON'T THINK ANY OF YOU ARE. UH, THAT ITEM WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED TODAY BECAUSE WE WILL NOT TAKE ANY ACTION. THAT WAS A PLACEHOLDER IN CASE WE DECIDED TO THANK YOU. IF YOU WOULD GO OVER THE WITHDRAWN AND POSTPONED ITEMS PLEASE. THE ITEMS THAT ARE POSTPONED TODAY ARE, ARE ITEM ONE THAT ENDS IN 1 5 1 CD OFF OF RIGSBY AVENUE. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS POSTPONED. IT ENDS IN 3 4 5 CD LOCATED AT 36 0 3 SOUTH FLORES AND ITEM NUMBER EIGHT ENDING IN FIVE SIX. THAT [00:05:01] IS ON SAN PEDRO. ALL OF THOSE ITEMS HAVE BEEN POSTPONED. WHAT THAT MEANS IS THEY WILL NOT BE HEARD OR CONSIDERED TODAY. THEY WILL COME BACK WHEN THEY COME BACK A NEW NOTICE AND NEW PUBLICATION WILL BE DONE FOR THOSE. SO YOU WILL GET ANOTHER INVITATION FOR WHEN THOSE ITEMS COME BACK, IF THEY COME BACK. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND AGAIN, IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK TO THOSE ITEMS, THEY WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY. YOU WILL GET NOTICE, UH, WHEN THEY ARE BROUGHT BACK IF THEY ARE BROUGHT BACK. ALRIGHT, STAFF, IF WE COULD, CAN WE GO OVER, UH, WHAT'S ON COMBINED HEARING? NUMBER ONE, THE CONSENT AGENDA? YES, SIR. I ONLY HAVE TWO ITEMS TODAY FOR THE COMBINED HEARING. THAT'S ITEM NUMBER SIX, ENDING IN 3 27 LOCATED AT 1 34 55 STATE HIGHWAY 16 AND ITEM NUMBER 13, ENDING IN 3 4 3 CD UH, LOCATED AT 1514 SLINGER ROAD. THERE IS ONE SPEAKER HERE, UH, FOR, TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THAT ITEM. SO THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED BEFORE UH, THE CONSENT AGENDA IS CONSIDERED. VERY GOOD. UH, COMMISSIONERS, DOES ANY COMMISSIONER WANT TO PULL EITHER ITEM SIX OR 13 FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NO STAFF IF WE COULD READ THOSE TWO ITEMS INTO THE RECORD PLEASE. ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM M I ONE S A H O D WITH SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR FAIRGROUNDS TO I ONE LOCATED AT 1 34 55 STATE HIGHWAY 16 SOUTH. THERE WERE SEVEN NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FIVE TO R FIVE CD WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 1514 SLINGER ROAD, THERE WERE 15 NOTICES MAILED TO RECEIVED IN FAVOR. ONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION, FIVE RECEIVED IN FAVOR OUTSIDE 200 FEET AND NO RESPONSE FROM DEL CREST AREA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AGAIN, THERE IS ONE SPEAKER HERE IN FAVOR OF THAT ITEM, UH, STAFF IF WE CAN PLEASE CALL UP THE INDIVIDUAL IN FAVOR OF ITEM NUMBER 13 PLEASE. ANITA FRANKLIN. MS. FRANKLIN, ARE YOU PRESENT? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? THANK YOU. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, YES. RIGHT UP HERE AND YOU CAN TAKE OFF YOUR MASK WHILE YOU SPEAK. PLEASE, UH, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. OKAY. UM, MY NAME IS, UH, ANITA FRANKLIN. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, MA'AM. ANITA FRANKLIN, I LIVE AT CD IS JUST CONCERNING OR DO I NEED TO TAKE YOUR BREATH? OKAY, , UH, JUST CONCERNING THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING FOR THE OFFICE, WE'LL GO AHEAD FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN FAVOR, UH, OF THE PARTICULAR FACILITY AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. FRANKLIN. UM, ALRIGHT. ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE, IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEM SIX AND 13? MR. CHAIR? THIS IS COMMISSIONER SIPES. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ITEMS NUMBER SIX AND NUMBER 13. ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER SIPES. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALRIGHT, THERE IS A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. UH, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS NUMBER SIX AND 13 BY COMMISSIONER SIPES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH. OH, I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. AND CHAIR BUS? AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. OKAY. UH, THE NEXT SET OF CASES ARE ON OUR COMBINED HEARING NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS OUR CONTINUANCE, UH, DOCKET STAFF. IF WE COULD READ THOSE TWO ITEMS INTO THE RECORD PLEASE. ITEM NUMBER 12 IS THE REQUEST TO REZONE FROM MF 33 TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A HUMAN SERVICE CAMPUS WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 2318 CASTROVILLE ROAD, THERE WERE 63 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION. WESTWOOD SQUARE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED, AS IS LOS ENA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO I D [00:10:01] Z H WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME TO C TWO S I D Z WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. AND A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A BAR TAVERN WITHOUT COVER CHARGE LOCATED AT 1518 EAST GRAYSON STREET. THERE WERE 11 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM GOVERNMENT HILL. THERE IS ONE VOICEMAIL TO BE PLAYED IN ASSOCIATION WITH THIS ITEM. OKAY, VERY GOOD. UM, IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT FOR ITEM 12? YES. NOPE. YOU'RE 16. APPLICANT FOR ITEM 12, MS. MCDONALD APOLOGIZE. UH, CAROLYN MCDONALD, UH, BRIAN ORTIZ, ONE 12 EAST PEON HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT REQUESTING A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO FEBRUARY 15TH. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND, UH, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 12? NO, SIR. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. OH, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. THERE IS ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. OKAY. UM, RODRIGUEZ. UH, MR. RODRIGUEZ, HOW ARE YOU? IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, UH, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. YOU CAN SPEAK TODAY, YOU CAN SPEAK IF THERE CONTINUANCE IS GRANTED NEXT MEETING. YOU CAN DO BOTH. OH, THAT WOULD BE FINE. I'LL GO AHEAD AND SPEAK ON THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. DO YOU NEED MY NAME OR THAT'S FINE MR. RODRIGUEZ. THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT, UH, APPLICANT FOR ITEM 16. THANK YOU MR. CHRISTENSEN. LITTLE OVEREAGER . YES, ALWAYS GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, THREE 10 SOUTH ST. MARY'S, SUITE 2,700. I'LL BE REQUESTING A TWO WEEK CONTINUOUS TO THE FEBRUARY 15TH HEARING TODAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT BESIDES THE VOICEMAIL? NO, SIR. ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD PLAY THE VOICEMAIL PLEASE. UH, THIS IS GLORIA HERNANDEZ, UM, ADDRESS THIRTY SEVEN TWENTY THREE EL PASO STREET. MY TELEPHONE IS (210) 840-4810 AND I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO ZONING CASE. LAST THREE NUMBERS ARE 3, 4, 1 AND I'M EMPLOYED WITH THE LAS PALMAS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND I WOULD LIKE TO PUT IN THAT WE ARE IN OPPOSITION TO PUTTING A HUMAN SERVICE ON CASTRO RAILROAD. THANK YOU. BYE-BYE. IT WAS ACTUALLY FOR ITEM 12. ALRIGHT, THAT WAS FOR ITEM 12. AND WE WILL NOTE THAT ON THE RECORD. UH, AND WE'LL PLAY IT AGAIN NEXT MEETING AS WELL. UM, UH, SIR, WE DON'T PLAY THEM AGAIN. OKAY. THERE IS ONE THREE. OKAY, THERE IS ONE, ONE MORE THERE. ONE 16. OKAY, LET'S DO THAT. MY NAME IS MARLENE HAWKINS. I LIVE AT 6 0 1 EAST CARSON IN GOVERNMENT HILL. MY PHONE NUMBER IS TWO TEN THREE TWO TWO TWO FIVE SIX SEVEN. I'M CALLING IN REGARD TO CASE Z 2021 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 3 4 9 I D Z S. AND I'M CALLING TO ASK THE COMMISSION NOT TO VOTE. THE, THE REQUESTED ZONING IN THE S MAKES IT A A TO WHERE IT CAN BE A PUB OR TAVERN, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT IT IS NOW, WHICH IS PERFECTLY SUITED ZONING FOR WHAT IT, WHAT THEY WANT TO USE IT FOR. AND THE OTHER ONE IS THE AMOUNT OF ALCOHOL THAT CAN BE SERVED WITH THE ZONING. NOW IT'S 60% OF THEIR SALES CAN BE ALCOHOL WITH THE ZONING THEY'RE REQUESTING 75 PLUS THEY GET THE PUB TAVERN CLASSIFICATION. WE WERE TOLD IT WAS GONNA BE A RESTAURANT WITH A BEER AND WINE. THAT'S NOT WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE. IT'S GOING TO BE A GASTRO PUB. IT'S GOING TO BE A BREWING COMPANY THAT MAKES CRAFT BEER AND SELLS FOOD AND BEER ON THE SIDE AS PART OF THE BUSINESS. THE CRITERIA THAT YOU CAN USE BESIDES OUR REQUEST, THIS IS GOVERNMENT HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION. I'VE TALKED TO 22 PEOPLE. THEY WANT THE, THEY WANT THE RESTAURANT THERE OR WHAT THEY THOUGHT WAS GONNA BE A RESTAURANT, BUT NOT THE SPECIFIC USE. THE, THE CRITERIA IS NUMBER THREE, SUITABILITY, UH, FOR THE PROPERTY AS IS. AND IT IS DEFINITELY SUITABLE. THE MAN CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANTS, WHATEVER HE HAS PLANNED WITH IT AS IT IS ZONED. NOW, UH, THE SS ZONING CLASSIFICATION IS NOT GOOD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, THE, UH, CRITERIA SAYS THAT IF IT'S GONNA BE CHANGED, IT NEEDS TO [00:15:01] HAVE A REAL PUBLIC NEED OR BE THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS TO BE SET SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGED IN ORDER FOR THIS TO BE, UH, PROMOTED. SO MY REQUEST IS ON BEHALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS JAYLEN HAS ASKED US TO DO, TO GET IN TOUCH WITH PEOPLE ONCE THE ZONING ISSUE COMES UP, UH, THAT YOU DO NOT VOTE THIS REQUEST THROUGH, THAT YOU DENY THE S THE SPECIFIC USE THAT WOULD GIVE THEM THE PUB TAVERN. THANK YOU. BYE-BYE. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I BELIEVE THAT'S THE END OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THOSE TWO ITEMS. UM, ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE. IS THERE A MOTION? MR. CHAIR, THIS IS COMMISSIONER SIPES. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE TO THE FEBRUARY 15TH MEETING FOR THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ITEMS NUMBER 12 AND NUMBER 16. ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO THE FEBRUARY 15TH MEETING FOR ITEMS 12 AND 16. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALRIGHT, THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON. UH, ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE. UM, THE MOTION IS FOR CONTINUANCE TO FEBRUARY 15TH FOR ITEMS 12 AND 16 BY COMMISSIONER S SIPES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON. UH, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. CHAIR BUSTAMONTE AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. IF WE CAN NOW MOVE ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL ITEMS, PLEASE. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO R M FIVE. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 5 0 6 EAST ASHBY PLACE. THE EXISTING R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED R FIVE IS ALSO APPROPRIATE AS THE AREA HAS A MIX OF SINGLE AND MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOUSING TYPES. THE RMM FIVE WILL ALLOW DEVELOPMENT OF THREE DWELLING UNITS. THE ADJACENT RMM FOUR ALLOWS UP TO FOUR DWELLING UNITS. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THE NOTICES MAILED ON THIS WAS 33 NOTICES. THREE IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, ONE IN OPPOSITION, AND FIVE IN FAVOR OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET. TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED TO RMM SIX AND RMM FIVE, BUT OKAY. WITH R SIX CD. AND WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE. ALRIGHT. UM, IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT ON ITEM NUMBER THREE? IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME UP, TELL US ABOUT YOUR REZONING REQUEST. UH, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON, GUYS. UH, NAME IS MATTHEW BARS. UH, ADDRESS IS TWO 19 HAY BARN STREET, SAN MARCOS, TEXAS 7 8 6 6 6. AND I ACTUALLY SENT A PRESENTATION IN, I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS, UH, RECEIVED BY YOU GUYS OR IF YOU WERE ABLE TO REVIEW IT. STAFF, DO WE HAVE THAT PRESENTATION TO BE PUT UP ON THE SCREEN? DO YOU HAVE A HARD COPY BY ANY CHANCE OR, UH, I, I HAVE EXCERPTS. IT WAS THREE MINUTES, SO I WAS LIKE, MAN, I GOTTA CUT THIS DOWN. I, UH, I SENT YOU GUYS THE ENTIRE ONE. DANIEL, UH, SENT IT TO VAL ABOUT A WEEK AGO. OKAY. SO YOU GUYS COULD READ THROUGH THE ENTIRE FUN FACTS. YOU'VE GOT MY, MY ARCHITECT'S HERE. HE CAN EMAIL IT TO YOU IF HE'S ONLINE. IF YOU GIVE HIM AN EMAIL ADDRESS. YOU'VE GOT 10 MINUTES. SO I GOT WHAT, SORRY. UH, THAT'S ALL RIGHT. WE CAN GO. WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING THAT PRESENTATION, SIR. OKAY, WE'LL, WE'LL GET IT UP. I, UM, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, IF YOU CAN TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROJECT. YEAH, YEAH. SO OBVIOUSLY MY OBJECTIVE IS TO CHANGE THIS TO RM FIVE. UH, I, I SENT IN SOME DETAILS. UH, YOU KNOW, UH, I'VE HAD THIS PROPERTY FOR ABOUT 13 YEARS. UH, I'VE BEEN SITTING ON IT WITH THE OBJECTIVE TO EVENTUALLY BE ABLE TO EXPAND IT. I'VE, I'VE, UH, PURCHASED QUITE A FEW PROPERTIES WITHIN THE TOBIN HILL AREA. HAVE ABOUT 17 DOORS AT THIS POINT. UH, MY HIGHLIGHTS AS I WAS GONNA SHOW ON THE SITE PLAN, UH, MEET ALL THE OBJECTIVES. SO WE, WE'VE, WE'VE TAKEN VERY CLOSE, UH, ATTENTION TO THE SETBACKS AND HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS, MADE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WAS ACCOMMODATED THERE. I ALSO HAVE TWO PARKING SPOTS, UH, PER UNIT, UH, WHEN THE EXPECTATION OF THE CITY. AND, UH, THE TOBIN HILL COMMITTEE IS [00:20:01] 1.5. UH, WE ACTUALLY WENT WITH A SMALLER FOOTPRINT. SO INITIALLY, UH, THEY HAD, UH, APPROVED R FIVE WITH THE CD. UH, AND IT WAS A LARGER FOOTPRINT THAN ME ACTUALLY DIVIDING THIS UP AND PUTTING IT INTO TWO UNITS, WHICH I AM VERY, VERY, UM, UH, ADAMANT ABOUT BEING ABLE TO, UH, PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND I THINK USING, UH, THE SPACE FOR TWO UNITS RATHER THAN ONE IS, IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. ONE'S GONNA BE 1395, ONE'S GONNA BE 1,006 SQUARE FEET. UH, THIS DOESN'T IMPACT THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME. THIS WAS ANOTHER CONCERN OF THE, UH, TOBIN HILL COMMITTEE. UH, THE FRONT HOUSE WILL REMAIN, UH, IF IT'S NOT BROKEN, I DON'T NEED TO FIX IT, AND IT DEMANDS GOOD RENTS, AND I'M GONNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT STAYS IN PLACE. THAT WAS A MAJOR CONCERN OF THEIRS AS WELL. UH, THIS WAS MOST IMPORTANTLY, I SHOULD, I SHOULD SAY, SUPPORTED BY ALL LOCAL BUSINESSES IN WRITING. IT WAS ALSO SUPPORTED BY BOTH OF, OR ALL OF MY ADJACENT NEIGHBORS IN WRITING. AND I ALSO PROVIDED THAT IN THE EMAIL THAT I SENT TO YOU GUYS AS WELL. UH, THIS ALIGNS REALLY WITH, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN BRAVO'S BRAVO'S, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY SAFETY INITIATIVES. ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS WAS CLEANING UP THE BACK ALLEY. AND INITIALLY IT WAS A CONCERN, UH, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE DONE. WE'VE GOT HOMELESS PEOPLE LIVING THERE, THERE'S FIRE SAFETIES, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF ISSUES WITH THAT. UH, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE GOT SOME PUSHBACK, SURPRISINGLY, FROM TOBIN HILL COMMITTEE. UM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT ONE PERSON ON THE TOBIN HILL COMMITTEE ALSO APPROVED AND SUPPORTED THE RMM FIVE, UH, SIGNED IT ON A LETTER, HER HUSBAND DID, BUT SHE WAS, UH, VERBALLY APPROVING IT AS WELL. UH, AND REALLY THIS JUST ACCOMPLISHES ALL THE, UH, ALL THE OBJECTIVES OF THE CITY FOR THE OPEN LOAD LOAD DENSITY, URBAN LOAD, DENSITY, UH, ZONING. AND THAT'S BASICALLY IT. I THINK YOU GUYS REVIEWED A MAJORITY OF THE OTHER STUFF. UH, I WAS GONNA GO OVER, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE 33 NOTIFICATIONS SENT OUT. THERE WAS ONE IN SUPPORT, THERE WAS ZERO IN OPPOSITION. UH, I ALSO GOT SEVEN OF THE LOCAL BUSINESSES WITHIN 500 FEET TO ALSO SUPPORT THIS. SO EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT WE NEED TO BUILD COMMUNITY THERE. THEY NEED TO HAVE TRAFFIC THAT CAN WALK TO THEIR RESTAURANTS AND TO THEIR BARS. UH, AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY SUPPORTED AS WELL. OH, GREAT. SO AT THIS POINT, WE KNOW HOW MUCH TIME MR. BARGE HAS LEFT. SIX MINUTES. SIX MINUTES. YEAH, I SHOULD, OH, OKAY. I THOUGHT I HAD THREE MINUTES. OKAY. WE, WE COULD GO THROUGH MORE. GO TO, UH, IT'S TO SLIDE 15, PLEASE. SLIDE 15. UH, IT SHOULD SAY PAGES SOMEWHERE. SO ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE, WE'RE BUILDING THIS LOCALLY. UH, MY ARCHITECT WAS KIND ENOUGH TO SHOW UP TODAY, UH, FROM HARBA. HE'S, HE'S BEEN WORKING SINCE 2017. HERE HE IS A U T S GRAD, U T SS A GRAD. UH, WE'RE, WE'RE USING REVOLUTION EVOLUTIONARY HOMES, UH, WHICH IS A LOCAL PROVIDER OF, OF PREMIUM, UH, LARGER CUSTOM HOMES OUT IN THE HILL COUNTRY, AS WELL AS IN BURNIE. UH, HE HAS BEEN GRACIOUS ENOUGH AND AS A FAMILY FRIEND TO TELL ME THAT HE WILL BUILD THIS ONE FOR ME AS WELL. UH, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY WILL LIKELY, UH, BE PLACED UNDER BRIDGEMAN PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS A TEAM THAT OF 18 PEOPLE, A LOCAL COMPANY THAT MANAGES, UH, THE 17 OTHER DOORS THAT I HAVE IN THAT AREA. AND ALL THE MATERIALS ARE GONNA BE SOURCED LOCALLY. SO MY OBJECTIVE IS TO KEEP EVERYTHING LOCAL, UH, DO THIS THE RIGHT WAY. I'VE GOT HISTORY HERE. I, I, I CONTINUE TO WANT TO HAVE MORE HISTORY HERE. UH, WE'VE GOT SOME MF 33, THE 30 THREES THAT WE'VE, UH, PURCHASED NEAR THE UNIVERSITY THAT WE, UH, UH, PLAN TO KEEP AND ALSO BRING UP. UH, LASTLY, YOU KNOW, A MINIMUM OF 5% OF ALL OF MY PROCEEDS I EXPECT TO GO, UH, TO A DRUG AND ALCOHOL ABUSE, UH, UH, SUPPORT SYSTEM, UH, WITHIN THE AREA. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY BIG FOR MY WIFE AND MYSELF, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THAT DONE AS WELL. AND THAT WAS REALLY ALL I HAVE. I, I HAD A COUPLE OTHER THINGS ON THERE, BUT OBVIOUSLY I WAS HOPING THAT YOU GUYS WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE EVERYTHING ELSE. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP A WHOLE LOT OF TIME. I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE BUSY, UH, BUT I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AND OF COURSE, JEREMY'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL. GREAT. THANK YOU. MR. BARS, YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL AFTER, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT. IF WE CAN BEGIN STAFF WITH PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE. JEREMY. JEREMY BATEMAN. I DON'T KNOW IF HE WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING. I JUST SIGNED HIM UP IN CASE YOU GUYS HAD ANY QUESTIONS. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW THE RULES. WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR HIM SPECIFICALLY. OKAY. WE CAN CALL HIM UP. OKAY, MR. BATEMAN. SO IF YOU WANNA SPEAK, YOU CAN. IF YOU DON'T, UH, JUST THANK YOU. UH, UH, WE HAVE VOICEMAILS NOW, SIR. OKAY. NO FURTHER PEOPLE PRESENT. OKAY, PERFECT. THANK YOU. LET'S BEGIN WITH THE VOICEMAILS. APPRECIATE LET, I AM MARK STEELMAN. I LIVE AT 900 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE AND CO-CHAIRMAN OF BEACON HILL ZONING AND URBAN DESIGN COMMITTEE. I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE REQUEST AT 5 0 6 EAST . WE SUPPORT TOBIN HILL'S REQUEST THAT THE ZONING COMMISSION NOT APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR A CHANGE FROM R [00:25:01] SIX TO R RM FIVE AT 5 0 6 EAST ASHBY AS IN BEACON HILL, THE APPLICANT CAN CREATE A TRIPLEX WITH AN R SIX, UH, CD FOR THREE UNITS WITH LESS DISRUPTION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IN ORDER FOR DEVELOPERS AND NEIGHBORHOODS TO WORK TOGETHER, IT IS IMPORTANT TO COMPROMISE AND IN OUR SIX CD SEEMS TO BE FAIR TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WILL ALLOW THE DEVELOPERS TO DO WHAT HE WANTS WITHOUT CHANGING THE UNDERLYING ZONING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. THIS IS RICK SHELL. I'M AT FOUR 30 EAST MISSILE TO AVENUE IN TOBIN HILL. I'M CALLING ABOUT CASE NUMBER 3 5 0 6 EAST ASHBY. UH, AS THE ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE CHAIR FOR TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION, UM, TCA'S ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MET WITH THE APPLICANT TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE ZONING AND TO THE PROPERTY. THROUGH SEVERAL MEETINGS AND EMAIL ADJUSTMENTS, THE APPLICANT REDUCED THE OVERALL ZONING OR THE OVERALL FOOTPRINT OF THE ADDITIONAL UNITS, AS WELL AS CHANGE FROM TWO ADDITIONAL FREESTANDING UNITS TO ONE DUPLEX. OUR COMMITTEE APPRECIATES THE CHANGES MADE. THE APPLICANT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE SAID THIS ALREADY, BUT THE PROCESS WENT THROUGH SEVEN DIFFERENT PHASES BEFORE BEING PRESENTED TODAY. HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO CONTINUE TO PURSUE RMM FIVE. INSTEAD OF OUR ALTERNATE PROPOSAL OF R SIX CD FOR THREE UNITS, THE APPLICANT MET WITH D S D STAFF AND WAS EXPLAINED THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO AND IS STILL ELECTED TO USE THE R M CATEGORY. AS WE ALL KNOW, THE RMM CATEGORY DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY SIDE OF SITE KIND OF SITE PLAN. AND AS WE ALL KNOW, THE ZONING STAYS WITH THE PROPERTY, NOT WITH THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. FOR T H C A, THIS MEANS THAT IF THE RM ZONING'S APPROVED, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THE APPLICANT WILL BUILD WHAT WAS PROPOSED TO US. HE CAN EASILY, EASILY GO BACK TO THE FIRST PROPOSAL, TWO ADDITIONAL FREESTANDING STRUCTURES IF HE WISHES. IF THE APPLICANT SELLS THE PROPERTY AND IT IS ZONED IN RMM, THE NEW OWNER CAN BUILD ANYTHING WITHIN THAT CATEGORY WITHOUT PUBLIC INPUT. THIS PROPERTY ALREADY HAS A HOUSE ON IT IN AN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD BLOCK THAT IS NOT AN EMPTY LOT BEING DEVELOPED. THE USE OF R SIX CD FOR THREE UNITS WERE REQUIRED THE USE OF THE SITE PLAN FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, HOWEVER IT HAPPENS, WE WOULD SUPPORT THE USE OF R SIX CD FOR THREE UNITS TODAY, BUT WE DO NOT SUPPORT THE USE OF THE RM CATEGORY TO ACHIEVE THREE UNITS. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 889-4424. THANK YOU SO MUCH. BYE-BYE. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE, SIR. VERY GOOD. MR. BARR, WOULD YOU LIKE A BRIEF REBUTTAL? THANK YOU. YEAH, I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO STATE, YOU KNOW, WE DID GO THROUGH QUITE A FEW DIFFERENT RENDITIONS OF THIS. UH, AND WHAT I, WHAT I EVENTUALLY FOUND, AND I THINK WHY I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE SUPPORT OF TOBIN HILL IS THAT WHEN WE STEPPED UP TO THE TABLE FROM DAY ONE, THEY HAD AN EXPECTATION THAT THEY WERE GONNA, THEY WERE GONNA STRONG ARMY INTO AN R SIX CD. UH, THROUGH ALL THOSE DIFFERENT RENDITIONS, I DID D WHITTLE DOWN TO ONE, ONE UNIT BECAUSE I FELT AS THOUGH I WAS GONNA GET NOWHERE ELSE BECAUSE I WASN'T GETTING ANY RECOMMENDATIONS. I WASN'T GETTING ANY OTHER SOLUTIONS OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT THEY JUST WANTED THAT R SIX CD. UH, SO AS I SAID BEFORE, WE DID HAVE THAT ONE, IT WAS A SINGLE UNIT, BUT I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS MORE IMPORTANT TO HAVE TWO UNITS OF MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHIN THIS AREA. UH, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THROUGH MY PROCESS AND THROUGH THE NEGOTIATIONS, IF YOU WANNA CALL 'EM THAT, UH, IT, IT WAS VERY POORLY PUT TOGETHER. THE COMMUNICATION WITH TOBIN HILL, THE TIMELINESS, IT TOOK THEM TO GET BACK TO ME, AS WELL AS THE LACK OF SOLUTIONS, UH, WAS A LITTLE DISHEARTENING, I GUESS TO SAY THE BEST. SO I KNOW THAT WE OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T GET THAT, UH, THAT CHECK MARK, WHICH I REALLY, REALLY WANTED. UH, BUT I THINK, LIKE I SAID, AND ACCORDING TO THE SITE PLAN, AND ACCORDING TO ALL THE DETAILS THAT I GAVE YOU GUYS, UH, WITHIN THAT DECK, UH, THIS IS APPROPRIATE. IT IS ALLOWED. UH, AND I DON'T FEEL AS THOUGH THERE SHOULD BE ANY MORE RESTRICTIONS PUT ON THIS PROJECT, WHICH IS ULTIMATELY WHAT THEIR, UH, AGENDA IS. AND IT WAS FROM DAY ONE. SO I'M OPEN IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY MORE DETAIL THAT I HAVE TO, UH, CLARIFY. THANK YOU, MR. BARR. IF COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS, WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP. YOU MIGHT WANNA SIT IN THE FRONT ROW. OKAY. I ANTICIPATE THERE WILL BE SOME QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THIS IS A DISTRICT ONE CASE COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE TO YOU. THANK YOU. YEAH, AND I DO, I WILL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU MR. BARR. SURE. YOU CAN JUST STAY. OKAY, THAT'S FINE. UM, SO, SO CAN YOU, UM, AND ACTUALLY STAFF, COULD WE PUT UP THE SITE PLAN? I, I DON'T THINK THAT HE WAS ABLE TO GO THROUGH THAT, SO I THINK, YEAH, I'M SORRY. NO, THAT'S, I GOT A LITTLE FLUSTERED WHEN NO, THAT'S OKAY. UM, [00:30:05] YES, IT WAS, IT WAS ON THAT ONE THAT HAD ALL THE BULLET POINTS. IT WAS SLIDE FIVE, I BELIEVE, OR NINE. I'M SORRY, NINE RIGHT THERE. OKAY, PERFECT. SO, SO YOU'RE CURRENTLY THERE IS THIS ONE STORY, 1200 SQUARE FOOT, LET'S SAY, HOME IN THE FRONT. AND YOU ARE PLANNING TO PUT TWO UNITS BEHIND THAT, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. AND THEY WILL BE ADJOINING UNITS? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF FOR THIS, FOR THIS ONE. UM, WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN AN R SIX CD FOR THREE UNITS AND AN RMM FIVE? FROM A DESIGN STANDPOINT? I, I UNDERSTAND THE CD'S GONNA REQUIRE THE SITE PLAN, OBVIOUSLY, BUT ASIDE FROM THAT, AS FAR AS SETBACKS, HEIGHTS, WHAT ARE THE OTHER DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THOSE? IT JUST ALLOWS A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY IN THE DESIGN. SO LIKE IF A ONE UNIT COULD BE A DUPLEX AND THEN THE OTHER UNIT COULD BE A SINGLE UNIT, OR THEY COULD ALL BE BUILT INDIVIDUALLY, THE RMM IS GOING TO ALLOW FOR A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL TYPES. OKAY. COULD YOU ACHIEVE THAT SAME MIX WITH AN R SIX CD FOR THREE UNITS? YES, YOU COULD. UH, AGAIN, THE DISTINCTION IS THE SITE PLAN, AND THAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO HOLD THE APPLICANT TO HOW MANY UNITS. SO IF ONE IS A DUPLEX, IT'LL BE THE DUPLEX AND THEN ONE WILL BE THE ADDITIONAL UNITS. SO, UH, OF COURSE THERE'S ALWAYS MINOR SITE PLAN AMENDMENTS, SO THE ONLY THING THAT'S GONNA ALLOW IS MAYBE PLACE, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF A DEVIATION IN PLACEMENT. UH, BUT OTHERWISE ONLY THREE UNITS, NO MORE THAN THREE UNITS IN WHATEVER FORMAT. OKAY. BUT HE COULD ACHIEVE THIS SITE PLAN, HE COULD ACHIEVE THE, THE DEVELOPMENT THAT THIS SITE PLAN IS SETTING FORTH WITH THE R SIX CD FOR THREE UNITS, AND IT WOULD BE ALLOWING HIM TO HAVE THE SAME THINGS THAT THE RM FIVE WOULD ALLOW HIM TO HAVE. YES. UM, SO THE ONLY DISTINCTION IS THAT RMM FIVE IS ALLOWED, UH, A HALF STORY HEIGHT, BUT SINCE THIS PROPERTY IS TOO NARROW, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GET THAT ADDITIONAL HALF STORAGE. SO THEY WOULD BE RESTRICTED TO THE SAME HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS AS AN R SIX, UH, 35 FEET, TWO AND A HALF STORIES. SO ESSENTIALLY, YES, YOU COULD, WHAT HE'S PROPOSING THERE IN THAT RMM FIVE DEVELOPMENT, HE CAN, UH, SOLIDIFY IT IN A SITE PLAN WITH AN R SIX CD. MR. MARS, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO DO THAT? I, I, I'D PREFER TO STAY WITH THE RMM. I MEAN, THROUGH THIS EXPERIENCE, AND I ACTUALLY HAVE A SLIDE OF WHY R SIX DOESN'T WORK. IT'S THE VERY LAST ONE IN THE APPENDIX. UH, THE BIGGEST PROBLEM HERE IS TIME. AND AS ANY OF THESE INDIVIDUALS BACK HERE CAN TELL YOU, TIME IS MONEY. AND WITH THE CHANGES I HAVE TO MAKE AND WITH THE RELATIONSHIP, THAT IS REALLY NEVER SOLIDIFIED WITH TOBIN HILL, I FEEL AS THOUGH THERE WILL BE SO MANY RESTRICTIONS AND SO MANY DELAYS THAT A SMALL PERSON LIKE ME WITH A DEVELOPMENT SO SIMPLE LIKE THIS WILL JUST BE COMPLICATED. AND REALLY, TO BE HONEST, THE ONLY PUSHBACK IN FLACK IS ASSUMPTIONS. THE ASSUMPTIONS. I MIGHT SELL THE ASSUMPTIONS SOMETHING ELSE MAY HAPPEN. THERE'S NOTHING THAT HOLDS UP IN MR. SHELL'S DETERMINATION OF HOW WE'RE GONNA DESIGNATE THIS. BUT I DO HAVE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT BULLETED POINTS WHY I WOULD PREFER TO STAY RM. OKAY. AND THEN JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON ONE MORE POINT THAT YOU MADE, UM, WITH RESPECT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ARE YOU PLANNING ON PUTTING ANY RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS ON THIS PROPERTY THAT WOULD ENSURE THAT IT REMAINS AFFORDABLE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME? OR ARE YOU PLANNING ON JUST HAVING THE PROPERTY OPERATE THAT WAY WITH NO, UM, RESTRICTIONS ON IT? THAT, THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION ON, TO BE COMPLETELY HONEST, I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS ANY COVENANTS THAT I COULD PLACE ON THIS, BUT I CAN TELL YOU I PLACED COVENANTS ON MYSELF AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE TWO EMAILS THAT I SENT IN FROM PREVIOUS TENANTS THAT HAVE ACTUALLY BOUGHT HOMES IN THE AREA, THEY WILL TELL YOU THAT I KEPT RENTS AT A VERY, VERY LOW RATE. THAT'S MY PERSONAL INITIATIVE, BUT I, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU COULD DO COVENANTS. I COULD MOST CERTAINLY THINK ABOUT THAT. OKAY, THANKS. I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, UH, WE'RE GONNA START WITH COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, WE'LL GO TO YOU QUESTIONS. UM, YES, ANOTHER QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. UM, I I GUESS I'D LIKE TO KNOW, YOU KEEP SAYING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WHAT, WHAT KIND OF APARTMENT RENTS ARE YOU ANTICIPATING, UM, OBTAINING? I WOULD, I WOULD TRY TO KEEP THIS AT AT [00:35:01] LEAST A DOLLAR PER SQUARE FOOT TO START OFF WITH. MOST OF OUR, MOST OF OUR UNITS RUN WITHIN A DOLLAR TO A DOLLAR OH $5 10. SO IT'S REALLY, REALLY LOW FOR THAT AREA. IF YOU COMPARE, I DON'T HAVE THE COMPARISONS. I COULD DO SOME, BUT I DON'T HAVE 'EM IN FRONT OF ME. WELL, I, CAN YOU TELL ME AGAIN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE? YES MA'AM. THEN OF YOUR PROPERTIES? YES MA'AM. THE SMALLER UNIT IS A THOUSAND, UH, SIX SQUARE FEET. THE LARGER ONE IS 1395. SO ESSENTIALLY THAT WOULD BE A THOUSAND DOLLARS AND 1395. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THE, THE, THE ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. UM, IF THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS WE'LL ASK YOU. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER, UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, UM, STAFF AND AGAIN WITH RESPECT TO COST, THE SITE PLAN THAT IS CURRENTLY SUBMITTED HERE IN THIS PRESENTATION ON SLIDE FIVE, THAT IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT FOR AN R SIX CD. AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT? UM, YEAH, SO LONG AS IT'S, UH, COMPLIANT WITH THE CODE REQUIREMENTS, THERE'S A STATEMENT MISSING. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IF IT'S SHOWING SETBACKS, HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS OR, OR THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT, THE PLACEMENT OF THE STRUCTURES, YEAH, THE SITE PLAN WOULD BE COMPLIANT. JUST MINOR THINGS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ADDED. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR BARS. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION, OH, I WILL HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. OH, OKAY. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE MORE QUESTIONS. SO GIVEN COMMISSIONER BUSTA MONTE'S, UM, LAST QUESTION THAT THE SITE PLAN THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING PRESENTED WOULD BE SUFFICIENT FOR THE R SIX CD FOR THREE UNITS AND THAT THAT WOULD NOT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL COST OR TIME, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO DO AN R SIX CD FOR THREE UNITS BEFORE YOU, YOU ANSWER THAT? THE ONLY THING I CAN'T TELL WITH THIS IS WHAT HIS PROPOSED REAR SETBACK IS. UH, THAT'S A CHANGE. SO THE REAR SETBACK FOR AN R SIX IS 20, RMM ALLOWS 10, THAT'S THE ONLY DIFFERENCE. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE HAS HIS PROPOSED SETBACK. SO IF HE'S UH, PROPOSING TO BE IN THE R SIX, HE MIGHT GET CREDIT FOR HALF THE ALLEY, IT MAY INCUR ANOTHER, UM, PROCESS TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND THAT COULD ALSO LOSE PARKING SPACES AMONGST OTHER THINGS. IF YOU NOTICE THE BACK CAR AND THE TWO CARS IN BETWEEN THE TWO FACILITIES, THAT WOULD LIKELY CREATE A PROBLEM. I'M SORRY, IT'S JUST HARD TO SEE HERE. WHAT IS THE CURRENT SETBACK ON THIS SITE PLAN? CAN YOU IN, SORRY, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE CURRENT R SIX? WHAT IS THE R SIX SETBACK? 20 FOOT IN THE REAR, BUT IF THE, IF, IF YOU'RE BUTTING AN ALLEY, YOU GET CREDIT FOR HALF OF THAT, YOU GET HALF THE ALLEY AND THAT ALLEY IS 10 FEET OR 13 FEET? 13, OKAY. SO THEY WOULD HAVE 13 AND A HALF FEET FOR THE SETBACK. HALF THE ALLEY, RIGHT? SORRY, WHAT IS THIS? SIX AND A HALF. GEEZ, FORGIVE ME. SORRY. UH, SO WHAT'S FRONT SETBACK THEY WOULD GET? THEY WOULD, SO 13 AND A HALF FEET WOULD BE THE SETBACK REQUIRED BECAUSE THEY GET CREDIT FOR SIX AND A HALF. YES, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY. SORRY. YES, I SKIPPED A STEP. UM, ALRIGHT, SO RIGHT NOW THEY WOULD BE WITHIN THE SETBACK AS WELL. SO RIGHT NOW THE SETBACK IS COMPLIANT. SORRY, I DID NOT FOLLOW THAT WITHIN AN R SIX CD IF THAT IS A 20 FOOT SETBACK. YES, THE ANSWER IS OKAY. SORRY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ANSWER? YEP. MR. BATEMAN, YOU WANNA COME UP? PLEASE COME UP. HOLD, I JUST WANTED TO, ONE OF THE BIG REASONS WE'RE MR. BATEMAN, JUST WAIT UNTIL YOU COME UP HERE PLEASE. I JUST WANTED TO STAY BRIEFLY THAT ONE OF THE BIG REASONS WE'RE GOING FOR ARMS OR R FIVE AND NOT THE, THE COM YOU KNOW, CD CONDITIONAL, UH, IS FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE FRONT UNIT, THE, THE EXISTING HOUSE THERE WHILE, WHILE STILL, YOU KNOW, LIVABLE AND IS CURRENTLY LIVED IN AT THIS MOMENT. CORRECT. UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE OPTION STILL AVAILABLE TO US TO REVISIT THIS SITE PLAN IN A FEW YEARS AND UPDATE, YOU KNOW, THE FRONT UNIT, UH, MAYBE EITHER MODERNIZE IT OR MAYBE END UP, UH, IT'S NOT IN HISTORIC. IT'S NOT IN HISTORIC. SO MAYBE WE IN THE FUTURE WOULD LIKE TO DEMO THAT AND ADD TWO MORE UNITS MAKING THIS FOUR INCH. RIGHT. THE, THE CD JUST KIND OF THROTTLES OUR FUTURE USE OF THE PROJECT. OKAY. WELL NOT A QUESTION BUT A COMMENT. UM, YOU WOULD WITH YOU WOULD BE LIMITED TO THREE UNITS WITH THE RMM FIVE. SO IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY TO GO UP AND DO AN ADDITIONAL DUPLEX IN THE FRONT, YOU WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE A DIFFERENT ZONING. SO YOU GOING THROUGH ANOTHER ZONING CHANGE JUST TO MAKE THAT COMMENT, WE DO ONE. OKAY. SO YOU'RE NOT AMENABLE TO THE R SIX CD FOR THREE UNITS BECAUSE YOU WANNA HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. IS THAT A FAIR [00:40:01] STATEMENT? THAT IS CORRECT. ALONG WITH THE COST. THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE INCURED. I KNOW YOU SAID THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY, BUT I HAVE TO BE REALISTIC JUST FROM HISTORICAL EXPERIENCES. OKAY, THANKS. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SIR. ALRIGHT, NOW COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, UNLESS THERE ARE FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT, FURTHER QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT. YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES. I'M SORRY. UH, QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, PARKING IS ALLOWED WITHIN A SETBACK, CORRECT? I MEAN YOU CAN DO A PARKING PAD YES. UNLESS IT'S IN ANY OVERLAY. UH, HISTORIC OR N C D? YES, YOU COULD DO A PARKING PAD IN THE SETBACK. OKAY, THANKS. THAT'S ALL. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER S SIPES. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? OKAY, SEEING NONE NOW, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION. THANK YOU. UM, SO YEAH, SO THIS CASE HAS BEEN, UM, GOING ON FOR QUITE A WHILE. I THINK WE'VE CONTINUED NOW EIGHT TIMES. UM, SO WE ARE FINALLY HERE. UM, THIS CASE WITH MULTIPLE MEETINGS NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, I WAS INVOLVED IN A COUPLE OF THOSE MEETINGS WITH THE APPLICANT AS WELL AND, UM, I CONTINUE TO HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS THAT I HAD DURING THOSE MEETINGS, WHICH IS THE FACT THAT THIS AREA, UM, IS THE LOTS ARE SMALL, THERE IS ALREADY A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY ON THIS PARTICULAR BLOCK. UM, AND MY CONCERN IS WITH RESPECT TO THE ADVERSE IMPACTS ON SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, UM, THINGS LIKE IMPERVIOUS COVER AND CREATING DRAINAGE ISSUES FOR SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. UM, AND ALSO, UM, THE FACT THAT THIS IS A SMALL LOT, RIGHT? AND SO I THINK THAT THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAD SIMILAR CONCERNS WITH RESPECT TO THAT. SO I'LL BE MAKING A MOTION FOR DENIAL. UM, WE DID TRY TO COME TO, UM, AN AGREEMENT BY SOLIDIFYING THAT THIS WOULD BE THE ONLY, UM, SITE PLAN THAT WOULD BE USED AND THAT THE, THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE LIMITED TO JUST THIS AREA. UM, BUT THAT, THAT OBVIOUSLY WAS NOT, UM, SOMETHING THAT WAS UH, AGREEABLE. UM, AND AS FAR AS ANY OTHER FACTORS, THE SUITABILITY IS PRESENTLY ZONED. UM, THIS IS, THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES IN THIS AREA. THERE ARE ACROSS THE STREET THERE IS AN R SIX CD FOR TWO UNITS. UM, NEXT DOOR THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY UNITS AS WELL. SO, UM, AGAIN, THAT'S, WE'LL BE MAKING A MOTION FOR DENIAL. ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALRIGHT, WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON. DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT COMMISSIONER. TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. SEEING NO DISCUSSION. THE MOTION IS FOR DENIAL OF ITEM NUMBER THREE BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? NO. COMMISSIONER WHITE? NO. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR DENIAL. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. BARS. GOOD LUCK MR. BATEMAN. ALRIGHT, IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE. OH. UH, SIR, IF WE MAY, RIGHT BEFORE RICHARD PRESENTS, UH, WE DID HAVE A SPEAKER FOR AN ITEM THAT WAS POSTPONED AND THEY CAME JUST FOR THAT ONE ITEM. IF WE COULD ENTERTAIN THAT VERY QUICKLY. VERY GOOD. UM, DO YOU HAVE THE SPEAKER'S NAME? YES. JACK FINGER. UH, MR. FINGER, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE POSTPONED ITEM, PLEASE COME UP. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, SIR. INTRODUCE YOURSELF, GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US ABOUT THE PROJECT. YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. MY NAME IS JACK M FINGER, I LIVE AT 9 0 1 WEST MULBERRY AVENUE. I LIVE IN THE BEACON HILL AREA, WHICH IS NOT TOO FAR AWAY FROM THIS, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, UH, I UNDERSTAND THE FIVE [00:45:01] POINTS NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, UH, IS IN OPPOSITION TO THIS. AND I, AS A MEMBER OF A NEIGHBORING ASSOCIA NEIGHBORING ASSOCIATION, I WOULD LIKE TO, I'M SORRY, MR. FINGER, GIVE US ONE SECOND PLEASE. IS THIS ONE, UH, ARE YOU SPEAKING TO, UH, THE SAN PEDRO AVENUE CASE, MR. FINGER? YES. UM, DUE TO RECUSAL OF ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, AS TO MS, AS TO COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS CURRENTLY LEAVING THE HEARING ROOM. THE TIME IS 1 53 AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS LEFT THE HEARING ROOM DUE TO RECUSAL. MR. FINGER, PLEASE, LET'S START RESTART MR. FINGER'S CLOCK FOR THREE MINUTES. WELL, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL START OVER AGAIN. UH, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW WHY MS. GREATHOUSE IS, UH, RECUSING HERSELF, BUT, UH, SINCE THIS IS IN HER DISTRICT, BUT, UH, UH, I, AS A, UH, MEMBER OF THE, UH, NEIGHBORING NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UM, I WANNA SPEAK IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE FIVE POINTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I BELIEVE THEY ARE IN OPPOSITION TO IT. UH, AND THE REASON ONE, ONE OF THE BIG REASONS WE'RE IN OPPOSITION TO IT AND I THINK IS YOUR STAFF HAS REITERATED THE FACT THAT THAT, UH, THE PROPOSAL IS FAR AS MUCH AS A HUNDRED UNITS, A HUNDRED UNITS SHOEHORNED INTO ABOUT THREE OR FOUR LITTLE LOTS THERE. I'M SORRY. UH, THAT'S WAY, WAY TOO MUCH THAT THESE, FOR ANYONE WHO, UH, UH, BELIEVES IN THE, UH, UH, THE LIVABILITY FOR, FOR, FOR, FOR RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA. I'M SORRY THAT IT, UH, THAT, THAT THAT DOESN'T WORK AT ALL. NOW MAYBE THERE'S AN ALTERNATIVE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE STAFF IS PROPOSING. I I DON'T KNOW IF EVEN THAT THAT IS, UH, UH, SUFFICIENT, BUT I, I CERTAINLY KNOW A HUNDRED UNITS IS WAY OUTTA KILTER HERE. AND I, I SUGGEST THAT IF, IF EVER THIS COMES UP AGAIN, PLEASE DO, DO NOT OFFER SUCH EXTREME, UH, AMOUNTS OF UNITS AND WORK FOR SUCH A TINY AREA HERE. SO ANYWAY, UM, I, THAT'S WHY I CAME ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE AND I'M, I'M GLAD YOU DIDN'T YOU DECIDED TO GET TO ME TO SPEAK ANYWAY HERE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. FINGER. THANK YOU. UM, ALRIGHT, LET US MOVE ON NOW TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE. ONCE WE GET COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE BACK IN, CAN WE CALL HER I ALL RIGHT. THE TIME IS 1 55 AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS RETURNED TO, UH, THE MEETING ROOM AND WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR. STAFF. IF WE COULD READ ITEM FOUR INTO THE RECORD PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS RICHARD BALTI DE VASQUEZ ZONING PLANNING WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. UM, CASE NUMBER FOUR, GENERALLY LOCATED 6,400 BLOCK OF DAYS OF OLIVE ROAD GOING FROM C TWO AND R SIX. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME TWO MF 25 LOW DENSITY MULTIFAMILY WHEN ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. UM, THERE WERE 15 NOTICES MAILED TWO IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPO, ZERO IN OPPOSITION INSIDE THE 200 FEET, 33 IN OPPOSITION OUTSIDE 200 FEET RADIUS. OAKMONT DOWNS COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED. THE EXISTING C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND THE C R SIX SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ARE IN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED MF 25 LOAD DENSITY MULTIFAMILY IS ALSO AN APPROPRIATE AND PROVIDES TRANSITION BETWEEN THE EXISTING C TWO COMMERCIAL R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY AND MF 18 LIMITED DENSITY MULTI-FAMILY ZONING DISTRICTS IN THE AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THAT CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION. VERY GOOD, THANK YOU SO MUCH. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT PLEASE? HI, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. ASHLEY FAIRMAN, 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE. UH, THANK YOU. I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF CASEY DEVELOPMENT, WHO'S THE OWNER AND AND POTENTIAL DEVELOPER OF THIS PROPERTY. UH, ORI KALINOWSKI WITH CASEY IS HERE, AS WELL AS JIM WELSH WITH P DAWSON ENGINEERS. IF THERE'S ANY SPECIFIC ENGINEERING QUESTIONS. UM, SO, SO AS RICHARD MENTIONED, WE'RE TALKING HERE ABOUT ABOUT 12 AND A HALF ACRES OR SO AT THE CORNER OF, UH, DE OF AND JV BACON. OKAY, SO IF YOU GO, UM, EAST FROM THE SITE, THIS IS DE ZAVALA HERE [00:50:01] TOWARDS I 10 SOUTH IS WHERE DE ZAVALA TURNS INTO BABCOCK OR THEY COME TOGETHER. UM, I JUST WANNA POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THE EXISTING USES THAT ARE ALREADY HAPPENING IN THE AREA. DIRECTLY BEHIND THE PROPERTY IS THREE AND FOUR STORY APARTMENTS. UM, ACROSS THE STREET IS VACANT, COMMERCIAL OWNED BY CURRENTLY BY H E B. UM, ALSO ACROSS DE ZAVALA IS AN EXISTING, UH, CONVENIENCE STORE, AUTO PARTS SALES STORAGE FACILITY, AND AS WELL AS SOME ADDITIONAL VACANT COMMERCIAL. UM, THERE IS SOME ALSO SOME COMMERCIAL ALONG DAYS OF ALLAH THAT I'LL, I'LL COME BACK TO IN A MINUTE. UM, THAT IT IS KIND OF A SHOPPING CENTER STRIP TYPE RETAIL DEVELOPMENT. UH, I DID WANNA POINT OUT THE COMMUNITY PLAN REALLY QUICKLY. THIS IS PART OF THE U T S A REGIONAL CENTER AREA. WE DID GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION LAST WEEK. UH, WE ARE REQUIRED TO AMEND THIS PLAN TO ALLOW FOR MULTIFAMILY, UH, AND THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. UM, JUST THE CURRENT ZONING MAP, AGAIN, THE 12 ACRES, UH, ACROSS THE STREET FROM C THREE AND C TWO AND, AND NEXT TO SOME MULTIFAMILY. UM, ZOOMING OUT A LITTLE BIT, I DID ALSO WANNA POINT OUT THAT THIS SITE, WE THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR MULTIFAMILY DUE TO EXISTING DEMAND IN THIS AREA FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING, FOR MORE HOUSING TYPES. UM, WE'RE ALSO NOT ADJACENT TO ANY SINGLE FAMILY. WE'RE ACROSS THE STREET FROM COMMERCIAL C THREE COMMERCIAL, UH, BETWEEN THE PROJECT, UM, OBVIOUSLY IS TWO ARTERIALS, JV, BACON AND DAYS OF ALLAH. AND THEN WE HAVE COMMERCIAL AND THEN SINGLE FAMILY. UM, ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD SOME FEEDBACK ON, YOU KNOW, MAYBE DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN JUST A TYPICAL APARTMENT COMPLEX. SO HERE, HERE'S THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN. KIND OF ORIENTED A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY HERE, BUT IF YOU THINK J UH, JV BACON ON THE RIGHT DA ZAVALA TO THE SOUTH. UM, SO WHAT WE DID HERE IS THOSE THREE AND FOUR STORY APARTMENTS ARE TO THE BACK. UH, WE PUT THREE STORY APARTMENTS TOWARDS THE CENTER OF THE SITE, BUT THEN ALONG JV BACON AND DA ZAVALA ARE TWO STORY TOWN HOMES OFFERING A DIFFERENT PRODUCT TYPE OFFERING. UM, SOMETHING THAT'S MORE A LITTLE BIT, UM, URBAN IN THE SENSE THAT IT'S FRONTING ON THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE. AND THEN THE TALLER HEIGHT OF THE APARTMENTS IN THE BACK. ALSO, THERE ARE TWO, UH, SORRY, , UH, TWO EXISTING CURB CUTS. THERE'S A ROAD HERE TODAY THAT SERVICES THESE APARTMENTS TO THE REAR, UM, MULTIFAMILY AT THIS SITE. THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL USE THOSE TWO EXISTING CURB CUTS AND THERE WON'T BE ANY FURTHER CURB CUTS ON THE SITE, UM, ON J JB BACON NOR DE ZAVALA. UH, JUST EXAMPLE OF QUALITY, THESE WILL BE MARKET RATE APARTMENTS. UM, ONE THING I DO WANNA POINT OUT THERE IS AN OLD, UH, DAIRY BARN ON THE PROPERTY. UM, IT WAS A STUBING FARM AND, AND THIS DAIRY BARN HAS REMAINED ON THE SITE. UM, WE HAVE HEARD THROUGH COMMUNITY THE IMPORTANCE OF RETAINING THIS STRUCTURE. ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO IT WAS ACTUALLY NOMINATED, UM, FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION. SO WE DID GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. UM, ULTIMATELY IT WAS NOT DESIGNATED AS HISTORIC, UH, BUT CASEY DEVELOPMENT HAS COMMITTED TO KEEPING THAT STRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY. UM, SO YOU CAN SEE IT HERE. IT IT'S ON THE NORTHERN END ADJACENT TO JV, BACON. UM, THERE'S ALSO SOME NICE TREES AROUND THE BARN THAT WILL BE RETAINED AS WELL. UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE MULTIFAMILY THERE'S A BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY IN HOW THE SITE LAYS OUT VERSUS COMMERCIAL. UH, SO THAT ALLOWS FOR THE BARN TO BE RETAINED. UM, TO TOUCH ON TRAFFIC AND, AND JIM'S HERE AS WELL. WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT INCREASED TRAFFIC DUE TO MULTIFAMILY. UM, BUT OUR STUDIES AND AND PAY DAWSON'S TRAFFIC REVIEW HAVE SHOWN CONSISTENTLY THAT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS A HIGHER TRAFFIC GENERATOR ON THIS SITE AS OPPOSED TO MULTIFAMILY. AND WE CAN GO INTO MORE DETAIL IF YOU'D LIKE ON THAT. AND LASTLY, I DID ALSO WANNA TOUCH ON, UM, WE'VE HEARD THAT PEOPLE WANT MORE COMMERCIAL IN THE AREA, BUT THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF VACANCY, UH, AND EXISTING COMMERCIAL. SO REALLY QUICKLY, UM, ALSO KC DEVELOPMENT HAS OWNED THIS SITE FOR OVER FOUR YEARS AND CONTINUOUSLY TRIED TO MARKET AND DEVELOP IT AS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. AND THAT HAS NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MULTIFAMILY NOW. UM, HERE ARE JUST A BROADER MAP OF THE AREA WITH I 10 DAYS OF ALL IN THE DAYS OF ALL AS IT TURNS INTO TO BABCOCK. UM, SO SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL AREAS THAT EXIST, UH, THIS IS THE NEAREST SHOPPING CENTER. SO THIS IS THAT INTERSECTION. JV BACON AND DAYS OF ALLAH HERE IS A NEW SHOPPING CENTER AND YOU CAN SEE IT HERE. UM, IT IS CURRENTLY 60% LEASED. THEY HAVEN'T HAD A NEW LEASE THERE IN SEVERAL YEARS. UM, AND THERE'S ALSO A VACANT COMMERCIAL ADJACENT TO THAT. UH, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN AT THE, WHEN BABCOCK AND, AND DAYS OF ALL COME TOGETHER, THERE'S EXISTING KIND OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES THAT PEOPLE SAY THAT THEY NEED IN THE AREA. THOSE ARE EXISTING AND THERE'S ALSO SOME VACANCY HERE. AND [00:55:01] THEN FINALLY THESE, THESE TWO ARE FURTHER DOWN ON BABCOCK, A LOT OF VACANCIES IN THESE. UH, AND THEN THESE TWO PROPERTIES HERE ARE AS YOU TRAVEL EAST ALONG DAYS OF ALL TOWARDS I 10. UM, SO I JUST POINT THAT OUT, UM, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE HAS BEEN QUESTIONS AS TO WHY YOU CAN'T REMAIN COMMERCIAL. UH, BUT WE DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S A VIABLE OPTION. IT'S BEEN TRIED, UH, AND WE THINK FROM A TRAFFIC PERSPECTIVE, FROM A DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE, AND THEN A DEMAND OF HOUSING, UM, THAT MULTIFAMILY IS A BETTER OPTION HERE. SO HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. FERMAN STAFF. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NOT IN PERSON SIR, BUT WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF VOICEMAILS. OKAY. IF WE COULD PLEASE PLAY THE VOICEMAILS. GOOD MORNING, THIS IS ART SALANA. I AM THE H O A PRESIDENT FOR THE OAKMONT DOWN SUBDIVISION. MY TELEPHONE NUMBER IS (210) 602-6040 AND MY ADDRESS IS 1 2 2 0 6 STABLE ROAD DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 4 9. I JUST WANTED TO CALL AND, UH, LEAVE MY INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO THE ZONING COMMISSION Z 20 21, 1 0 7 0 0 2, 0 7 AND LET YOU KNOW THAT I AM TOTALLY OPPOSED, UH, ON BEHALF OF OAKMONT DOWNS, UH, AGAINST THIS ZONING COMMISSION. UH, I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WERE PROMISED BACK IN 2000 19TH OF OCTOBER. WE WERE TOLD THIS WOULD BE REMAIN A, UH, COMMERCIAL ZONING AREA. AND NOW, UH, IT IS WANTING TO BE CHANGED AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE OF INTEREST TO OAKMONT DOWNS. UH, IT WON'T BE OF ANY BENEFIT TO US EITHER OR THE COMMUNITY AROUND US. SO JUST TO KEEP THIS ON RECORD, I AM OPPOSED TO THE ZONING COMMISSION Z 20 21, 1 0 7 0 0 2 0 7. THANK YOU AND HAVE A GOOD DAY. YES, MY NAME IS CHESTER A COZA, K O Z A 1 22 23 STABLE FORK DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 4 1 2 1 0 4 6 4 1 0 9 1. I'M CALLING IN REGARDS TO CASE NUMBER 2 0 2 1 1 0 7 0 0 2 0 7. I AM DEFINITELY OPPOSED TO THIS CHANGE OF ZONING. I BELIEVE THAT THE ORIGINAL PLAN FOR COMMERCIAL WAS CORRECT. I BELIEVE IT WILL BRING ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES TO OUR AREA. I BELIEVE A CHANGE WOULD RESULT IN UNDUE HARDSHIPS AND LOWER PROPERTY VALUES. TOO MANY PEOPLE, TOO MUCH TRAFFIC, OVERBURDENED ALL AROUND. I WILL VOTE FOR NO ONE WHO SUPPORTS THIS ISSUE. THANK YOU. STAFF, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS MESSAGE IS OVER. CAN WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE PLEASE? THANK YOU. I MEAN, AND HE WENT ON ON A HIGH. MY NAME IS COLLEEN WAGA, BACK 1603 TARTAN LANE, SAN ANTONIO. UM, PHONE NUMBER (210) 259-7067. I'M CALLING REGARDING THE ZONING CHANGE OF AT PROPERTY ADDRESS 4,600 DAYS OF ALLAH. MY NAME'S COLLEEN WABA AND I'M THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF NORTHSIDE NEIGHBORHOODS FOR ORGANIZED DEVELOPMENT, ALSO KNOWN AS NOD. I'M CALLING TODAY TO VOICE NODS, SUPPORT FOR THE REQUEST FROM OAKMONT DOWNS AND OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT YOU DENIED THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST ON THE PROPERTY. LOCATED IN THE 6,400 BLOCK OF DAYS OF OLIVE FROM COMMERCIAL TO MULTIFAMILY, I SERVED ON THE SA TOMORROW U T S A PLANNING TEAM. THE TEAM TEAM OF THE GOAL OF THE TEAM WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF STAFF FROM VARIOUS CITIES DEPARTMENTS SUCH AS TRANSPORTATION AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND HOUSING, WAS TO OBTAIN INPUT AND WORK TOGETHER TO IDENTIFY THE EXISTING AND POTENTIAL CHALLENGES AND OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE PLAN AREA. AND TO FORM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH RESPECTS THE RIGHTS OF OWNERS, PRESERVES THE UNIQUE HERITAGE AND CULTURE OF THE AREA, AND GUIDES THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE AREA IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY. THE U T S A AREA PLAN EMPHASIZES THE NEED FOR A VARIETY OF HOUSING OPTIONS. ONLY 40% OF HOUSING UNITS ARE DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES COMPARED TO 64% IN [01:00:01] THE CITY. ALREADY 800 NEW MULTI-FAMILY UNITS HAVE BEEN APPROVED IN THIS IMMEDIATE AREA. THE PLAN HIGHLIGHTS THE NEED TO DIVERSIFY HOUSING OPTIONS TO INCLUDE MORE STARTER HOMES SUCH AS ATTACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN TOWNHOUSES. THE APPROVAL OF THIS ZONING REQUEST FOR DEVELOPMENT, WHICH CONSISTS MAINLY OF APARTMENTS, DOES NOT DIVERSIFY DEVELOPABLE HOUSING OPTIONS IN THIS AREA. IN THE SPIRIT OF COMPROMISE, THE DEVELOPER WAS ASKED IF THEY WOULD CONSIDER A LESS DENSE, DENSE HOUSING OR MIXED USE OPTION, WHICH WOULD IMPROVE THE WALKABILITY AND MINIMIZE TRAFFIC DEMANDS THE DEVELOPER DECLINED TO CONSIDER THESE OPTIONS. THE AREA OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED ON PAGE 16 OF THE ADOPTIVE PLAN REFLECTING SPECIAL CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO THIS AREA, QUOTING THAT SECTION OF THE LA PLAN LAND AT THE INTERSECTION OF JV BACON PARKWAY AND DAYS OF ALLAH HAS BEEN DESIGNATED COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL. A RECENT NEWS ARTICLE REVEALED THAT COMMERCIAL OCCUPANCY IN SAN ANTONIO HAD TO RE RETURN TO NEAR 40 94% NEAR PANDEMIC NUMBERS. THIS AREA NEEDS THE GROWTH OF COMMERCIAL SERVICES TO SUPPORT THE MORE DENSE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT ALREADY EXISTS. DENIAL OF THIS ZONING CHANGE DOES NOT TAKE ANY EXISTING RIGHTS AWAY FROM THE LAND LANDOWNER. OTHER DEVELOPERS IN THE AREA ARE SUCCESSFULLY INVESTING IN MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS, WHICH, WHICH FIT THE SPECIFIC NEEDS OF THIS AREA. NOT REQUEST THAT YOU RE PLEASE RESPECT THE, HI, THIS IS CYNTHIA WINE. I'M CALLING ABOUT CASE NUMBER ENDING IN 2 0 7. MY NAME IS CYNTHIA WINE, 6 3 1 9 GALLERY CLIFF DRIVE, SEVEN EIGHT TWO FOUR NINE. PHONE IS (210) 380-2447. UM, I'M CALLING TO SAY THAT I DON'T THINK THAT, UH, WE HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE HERE FOR AND THE ROAD FOR MORE APARTMENTS THAT THEY'RE JUST, UH, THESE OF ALL WON'T HANDLE IT. AND UH, SO IT NEEDS TO BE LOWER DENSITY IF THEY'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, DO MORE DEVELOPING THERE. AND, UH, SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY. I, I'M OPPOSED. THANK YOU. BYE. YES, MY NAME IS JAMES SWANK. I LIVE AT 68 38 SPRING MANOR, 7 8 2 4 9. I'M OPPOSED TO THE ZONING COMMISSION PLAN. UH, NUMBER Z DASH 2 0 2 1 DASH SEVEN ZERO ZERO TWO ZERO SEVEN. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 415-2158. AND, UH, WE'RE ALREADY OPPOSED TO THIS, UM, IS WAY TOO MUCH TRAFFIC HERE. AND THE SA PLAN IS CLEAR THAT THIS SPACE NEEDS TO REMAIN COMMERCIAL. HELLO, I'M CALLING ABOUT THE ZONING COMMISSION CASE Z 2021 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 2 0 7 AFFECTING JAYZ BACON AND DE ZAVALA. PLEASE DO NOT PUT UP ANOTHER BIG APARTMENT COMPLEX THERE. THE TRAFFIC IS ALREADY HORRIFIC. UM, WE NEED TO PRESERVE WHAT IS THERE. MY NAME IS LORRAINE CAMPOS. I AM THE OWNER OF THE RESIDENCE. AT 67 19 SPRINGHURST STREET, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 4 9. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS SARAH CARUSO AND I LIVE AT 1 2 3 5 0 MAPLE TREE STREET AND AM THE INCOMING PRESIDENT OF THE TANGLEWOOD RESIDENT ASSOCIATION. CALLING ON BEHALF OF T R A, I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO ZONING CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 2 1 1 0 7 0 0 2 0 7. KENWOOD HAS OVER 800 HOMES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS LESS THAN A MILE FROM THE SITE AND WILL BE GREATLY IMPACTED. AS A RESULT, OUR BOARD HAS TAKEN THE OFFICIAL STANCE OF OPPOSITION ON THE REZONING FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS, OUR SCHOOL SYSTEMS ARE ALREADY OVERWHELMED. WE SEE IN THE NEWS TEACHERS ARE LEADING THE INDUSTRY AND NOT ENOUGH NEW ARE JOINING. THIS IS A SIZE OF THE CRISIS THAT THEY ARE FACING WITH TEACHERS BEING OUT DUE TO THE PANDEMIC. IN ADDITION, WE HAVE 1100 UNITS YET TO BE BUILT FROM PREVIOUS COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL REZONING, ALL WITHIN THE SAME SURROUNDING AREA THAT WILL IMPACT ITS LOCATION. KC DEVELOPMENT'S ARGUMENT THAT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS NOT DESIRABLE, IS NOT ACCURATE. WE ARE SEEING COMMERCIAL POPPING UP. IN FACT, THERE IS A DEVELOPER AT SPRINGTIME AND BABCOCK WHO IS HALF A MILE DOWN THE ROAD FROM THIS SITE THAT IS WORKING WITHIN THEIR CURRENT COMMERCIAL ZONING TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH LETTERS OF INTENT FROM A RESTAURANT AND COFFEE SHOP ALREADY. COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT HAS ALSO BEGUN DOWN THE ROAD AT BACKPACK AND HUMIRA AS [01:05:01] WELL. COMMERCIAL IN THE AREA IS DESIRABLE AND NECESSARY. ACCORDING TO CASEY DEVELOPMENT'S WEBSITE, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS ONLY EXPECTED TO GROW. SEEING THAT DEZA BALL IS A BUSY MAIN ROAD OF ACCESS FOR A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL, THIS WOULD ONLY MAKE IT A PRIME LOCATION FOR COMMERCIAL GROWTH. THE EXPRESS NEWS THIS JANUARY ALSO POSTED AN ARTICLE HOW EMPTY RETAIL SPACE IS FILLING UP AND OCCUPANCY RATES ARE AT 94% BECAUSE THERE'S LITTLE NEW RETAIL SPACE BEING BUILT. THE HIGHER OCCUPANCY DISPLAYS THE DEMAND FOR PRESERVING AND DEVELOPING COMMERCIAL SPACES AND THAT WE ARE GETTING TO PRE PANDEMIC LEVELS. TRAFFIC IS ALSO AN ISSUE AND WHILE THIS DEVELOPER WILL ARGUE THAT TRAFFIC, THIS IS A REDUCTION IN TRAFFIC, IT'S BRINGING IN MORE PEOPLE TO THE AREA TO COMMUTE ON THE ROADWAYS, TO WORK, EAT, RECREATE, AND USE OTHER SERVICES. COMMERCIALS SUCH AS A HIGH QUALITY RESTAURANT, WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE, MIGHT HAVE A HIGHER FLOW OF CARS COMPARED TO MULTI-FAMILY. HOWEVER, IT IS NOT BRINGING IN MORE PEOPLE TO THE AREA. IT IS SHORTER SPREAD OUT TRIPS, SERVICING THOSE THAT ARE ALREADY HERE AND WILL NOT IMPACT RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC LIKE RESIDENTIAL COMMUTING. WOULD WE REALLY NEED TO INCREASE OUR JOBS WITHIN OUR RESIDENTIAL DENSITY TO ASSIST WITH KEEPING TRAFFIC AT BAY AND PROVIDING WORK OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE CLOSE BY TO LESSEN A HOMELESSNESS ISSUE? LASTLY, THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS REALLY TRIED TO WORK WITH THIS DEVELOPER ON THE REBUILDING REQUEST TO CREATE A COMPROMISE WITH LOWER DENSITY OR MIXED USE SPACE. THE DEVELOPER HAS BEEN DIFFICULT AND NOT FORTHCOMING NOR OUR WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH US. THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADS HAD TO PUSH HARD FOR A COMMUNITY MEETING WHERE WE WERE TOLD THEY WERE NOT WILLING TO NEGOTIATE. WE HAVE WORKED WITH TWO OTHER DEVELOPERS IN THE AREA AND BEEN SUCCESSFUL. MY NAME IS WILLIAM THOMAS. I AM CALLING ABOUT CASE NUMBER Z TWO ZERO TWO ONE ONE ZERO SEVEN ZERO ZERO TWO ZERO SEVEN. MY PHONE NUMBER IS TWO TEN EIGHT SIX ZERO THREE EIGHT THREE SEVEN. MY ADDRESS IS 1 2 2 2 7 STABLE SQUARE DRIVE SAN ANTONIO IN THE OAKMONT DOWNS NEIGHBORHOOD. I AM OPPOSED TO REZONING THIS LAND FOR THREE REASONS. NUMBER ONE, THIS PARCEL IS SPECIFICALLY DESCRIBED IN THE SA TOMORROW U T S A REGIONAL LAND USE REPORT ISSUED IN OCTOBER OF 2019. AND IT IS STATED IN THAT REPORT THAT THIS LAND SHOULD REMAIN NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. CHANGING IT TO DEVELOP MORE MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IN A PLACE SURROUNDED BY OTHER RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS WILL UNNECESSARILY ADD TO INFRASTRUCTURE LOAD. NUMBER TWO, THERE ARE NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN ONE MILE TO THE SOUTH ON BADCOCK ROAD, WHICH WILL ADD NEARLY 900 MORE MULTI-FAMILY UNITS TO THIS AREA. I SERIOUSLY QUESTIONED THE STATEMENT BY THE DEVELOPERS THAT MORE MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING THE BEST USE OF THIS LAND AND FURTHER THAT THERE IS NO DEMAND FOR MORE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. NUMBER THREE, THIS PARCEL OF APPROXIMATELY 12 ACRES SITS DIRECTLY ON THE EDWARDS DRAINAGE ZONE AND JUDGING BY THE PLANT SUBMITTED BY THE DEVELOPER, AS MUCH AS 80% OF ITS LAND WILL BE COVERED WITH IMPERVIOUS SURFACES, US REDUCING A SUBSTANTIAL SOURCE OF INFLOW TO THE AQUIFER. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION. THAT'S ALL OF THEM, SIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. FAIRMAN. A BRIEF REBUTTAL PLEASE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, UM, HAPPY AGAIN TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. UM, AND, AND NOT TO BE TOO REPETITIVE, BUT, BUT AS WE MENTIONED, I HEARD TRAFFIC A LOT. UM, AND, AND THIS SITE'S GONNA BE DEVELOPED NO MATTER WHAT. SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN HERE, EVEN IF THERE'S NOT A MARKET FOR COMMERCIAL TODAY, THERE WILL BE SOMETHING HERE DEVELOPED. UM, AND THEN OUR POINT WITH THAT IS THAT BASED ON TRAFFIC STUDIES, BASED ON REVIEWS BY OUR ENGINEERS, MULTI-FAMILY IS IS THE LESSER IMPACTED, UM, IN TERMS OF THE STREETS NEARBY FOR, FOR TRAFFIC USES. SO, SO THAT'S ONE, TWO, UM, APARTMENTS AND OTHER RESIDENTIAL IN THIS AREA, LIKE ANY OTHER PART OF TOWN, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S GROWING AND THERE'S GREAT DEMAND. UH, SO THE NEAREST APARTMENTS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THIS ARE ALMOST A HUNDRED PERCENT OCCUPIED. SO, SO THERE IS A DEMAND FOR MORE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE HERE, WHO ARE COMING HERE, UM, OR MAYBE GOING TO U T S A OR LIVING IN THIS AREA. SO, SO THAT CERTAINLY EXISTS AS WELL. UM, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO RESPOND TO THE COMMERCIAL. UM, AGAIN, THERE'S A QUITE A BIT OF VACANCY. CASEY DEVELOP DEVELOPMENT IS A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPER AS WELL AND HAS TRIED WITH MULTIPLE DIFFERENT, UM, USERS, MULTIPLE DIFFERENT TYPES OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND, AND NONE OF IT HAS BEEN FEASIBLE AT, AT THIS HARD CORNER. SO, UM, [01:10:01] WITH THAT, I'LL STOP HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. FAIRLAND. THANK YOU. UM, THIS IS A DISTRICT EIGHT CASE, SO COMMISSIONER ORTIZ TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. ACTUALLY I DO, I JUST WANTED TO TALK TO ASHLEY. A COUPLE QUESTIONS JUST TO BRING UP IN FRONT OF THE AUDIENCE. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE WERE ADJUSTING, BECAUSE SOMEBODY SAID REGARDING A PREVIOUS COVER IN ONE OF THE LAST MESSAGES, HAS THAT BEEN ADDRESSED? UH, RIGHT, SO I THINK THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT CONFUSION ON THAT. SO THIS IS CONTRIBUTING ZONE, NOT RECHARGE ZONE. SO THAT'S WHY SAWS ISN'T HERE. WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SAWS REPORT OR HAVE THAT LIMITATION ON IMPERVIOUS COVER. UH, THAT BEING SAID, APARTMENTS, UM, ARE, ARE ALMOST ALWAYS LESS IMPERVIOUS COVER THAN A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. UM, SO WE HAVE THAT. THERE'S ALSO NOT ANY GRANDFATHERING THAT EXISTS CURRENTLY ON THE SITE FOR MULTIFAMILY AND THAT COULD BE AVAILABLE FOR COMMERCIAL. AND AS FAR AS TRAFFIC IS, YOU SAID THE ENTRANCE TO THE APARTMENTS ARE GONNA BE COMING IN THROUGH DELA UH, SO THERE'LL BE TWO ACCESS POINTS AND THOSE ACTUALLY ARE WHAT ALREADY EXIST TODAY. SO WE THINK THAT HELPS WITH THE TRAFFIC IMPACT AS WELL BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE CURB CUTS, UH, COMING FROM, LEMME SEE IF I'M MAYBE NOT DOING THAT RIGHT. COMING FROM DAYS OF ALL AND JB BACON, THERE'S, THERE'S THAT ROAD THAT EXISTS. SO ACCESS TO THE APARTMENTS WILL ONLY BE FROM THAT ROAD. OKAY, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ, THANK YOU SO MUCH COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT QUESTIONS. I WANNA START, UH, CHAIRMAN, UM, ASHLEY ARE WILL, DID MOST OF THOSE PHONE CALLS CAME FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD OAKMONT. AM I DREAMING THAT MOST OF THE CALLS UNDER IS, IS THAT ABOUT 2000 FEET AWAY FROM THE SITE? I I THINK THAT, UM, WHEN I GATHER SOME FROM SOME OF THE FAMILIAR NAMES THAT WE TALKED TO, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE FROM OAKMONT DOWNS AND THEN ALSO SEVERAL OF THEM FROM FROM UH, TANGLEWOOD. OKAY, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BOTTLES. UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE QUESTIONS. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. UM, THEY, I THINK THERE WAS SOME MENTION OF MIXED USE. UM, IS THIS INTENDED TO HAVE ANY MIXED USE ASPECT TO IT OR WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT WAS, UM, CONSIDERED? IT'S NOT, UH, IT WAS CONSIDERED, UM, BUT IT AGAIN, JUST WASN'T VIABLE FOR THE SITE, SO. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT QUESTIONS? YES, COMMISSIONER WHEAT. UH, JUST QUICK, QUICK QUESTION. IN YOUR UH, SITE PLAN, ARE YOU INTENDING TO KEEP ANY OF THOSE, UH, TREES ON THE PROPERTY? YES, AND UM, ORI MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK MORE TO THAT, BUT THERE'S QUITE A FEW EXISTING TREES, LIKE I MENTIONED AROUND THE BARN. UH, SO THE GOAL IS TO TRY TO SAVE THOSE AND THEN THERE ARE SOME OTHER TREES ALONG JV BACON, UM, YOU CAN SEE 'EM THERE THAT, THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, TRY TO SITE PLAN AROUND. UM, BUT THESE HERE, UM, CERTAINLY WILL BE RETAINED AND, AND AGAIN, WE'RE NOT GRANDFATHERED SO WE DO HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE CURRENT VERSION OF THE TREE ORDINANCE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. UH, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. UM, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE, UM, ASKING FOR MF 25 ON THIS PROPERTY, AND I THINK I HAD ASKED, UM, THE OTHER DAY, UM, IF YOU GUYS COULD CONSIDER REDUCING YOUR DENSITY TO MAYBE MF 18? YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY, JUST THE, THE WAY THE SITE DESIGN WORKS AND THE FINANCIALS OF IT, WE NEED THE MF 25. UH, THE PROPOSED DENSITY IS ABOUT 23 UNITS AN ACRE, SO WE'RE NOT QUITE AT THE 25, BUT DEFINITELY MORE THAN THE 18. OKAY. UM, AND AT THE BEGINNING OF YOUR PRESENTATION YOU TALKED ABOUT PERHAPS MODIFYING YOUR SITE PLAN TO ALLOW FOR TWO STORY TOWN HOMES ALONG DAYS OF AWA AND PUSHING, I THINK A THREE OR FOUR STORY UNIT BACK ON THE JV VACANT COMPONENT. IS THAT RIGHT? UM, RIGHT, SO WELL EVERYTHING WILL BE, UM, LEASED. THERE'LL BE LEASED TOWN HOMES NOT TO OWN, JUST TO CLARIFY. BUT, UM, ON THE SITE PLAN, UM, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, THESE UNITS HERE ARE THE TOWN HOME UNITS THAT YOU CAN SEE. UM, THOSE ARE THE TWO STORY UNITS BEHIND THAT ARE THE MORE TRADITIONAL TYPE APARTMENTS THAT ARE THREE STORY. AND THEN THE, THE THREE AND FOUR STORY ARE THE EXISTING APARTMENTS THAT ARE MS. FAIRMAN. WOULD YOU DO THAT AGAIN WITH THE POINTER AND STAFF? IF YOU COULD FOLLOW ALONG WITH THE CURSOR WHERE MS. FAIRMAN IS INDICATING SO THAT COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL CAN SEE IT. UM, COMMISSIONER, THESE ARE THE THANK YOU TWO STORY TOWN HOMES ALONG THE RIGHT ON THE STREET, AND THEN THE THREE STORY APARTMENT BUILDINGS BEHIND. UM, AND THEN TO THE REAR OF THAT ARE THE EXISTING APARTMENTS THAT ARE THE THREE AND FOUR STORY. OKAY. AND HOW MANY UNITS WOULD THAT BE OF THE TOWN HOMES? I CAN'T READ THAT . SO LET ME, HOLD ON. . SORRY, NEITHER CAN I ? YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN READ MINE EITHER. 40 42, 42 42 TOWNHOME UNITS AND THEN THAT WOULD LEAVE YOU, I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE TOTAL UNIT COUNT? 380. NO, [01:15:01] 290. ABOUT TWO HUNDRED NINETY TWO NINETY TWO HUNDRED AND NINETY, SORRY, I WAS WAY OFF. 290 UNITS. OKAY. SO, UM, YOUR ENGINEERS THERE? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR HER. SURE. UM, HE'S ON THE WAY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CAN SEE. COMMISSIONER ANIEL. ALRIGHT, SIR, IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. YES, COMMISSIONERS. I'M JIM WELCH FROM PAP DAWSON. ENGINEERS AT 2000 NORTHWEST FOUR 10 SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 1 3. GREAT. UM, CAN YOU GUYS BRING UP THE SLIDE SHOWING THE EXISTING STREETS FROM, UH, COMING OUT FROM THE OVERLOOK EXCHANGE? SO WHEN YOU DID YOUR STUDY, DID YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE NUMBER OF CARS THAT ARE ALREADY EXITING THAT SITE FROM THAT PARTICULAR UNIT, OR I SHOULD SAY FACILITY? UM, SO I'M NOT SEEING THE EXACT AREA THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, BUT AS A WHOLE I WOULD SAY YES, BECAUSE THE, THIS FALLS WITHIN THE STOOPING FARM MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UH, WHICH DATES ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2007. SO WHEN THAT PLAN WAS ORIGINALLY DONE, THERE WAS A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, UH, THAT WAS DONE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE, WHICH STUDIES HALF, HALF A MILE OUTSIDE OF THAT DEVELOPMENT AND LOOKS AT ALL THE MAJOR INTERSECTIONS AND GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. AND THEN AS DEVELOPMENT PROGRESSES, UH, THAT REPORT IS UPDATED. SO AS PART OF THE PROCESS GOING FORTH, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS THE, THE FIRST STEP, UH, BUT THEN WE WILL BE WORKING WITH CITY STAFF, UH, WITH AN M D P AMENDMENT, UH, AND UPDATE TO THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, UH, TO DOCUMENT ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND, AND SHOW THAT WE COMPLY WITH CODE AND THAT ANY NEGATIVE IMPACTS THAT WE HAVE ARE MITIGATED APPROPRIATELY. WELL, OKAY. THAT'S A LONG ANSWER TO MY SIMPLE QUESTION OF DID YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT CURRENT TRAFFIC COUNTS THAT ARE COMING OFF OF THOSE TWO ROADS TODAY? SORRY FOR THE LONG-WINDED NESS. YES, MA'AM. THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS. SO WHAT WOULD BE THE TOTAL TRAFFIC COUNT COMBINED? I'M SORRY, I I CAN'T FOLLOW YOUR, YOUR QUESTION THERE. WHAT AT WHAT POINT AND ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT OUT OF THIS SITE? SO WHAT, WHAT I, WHAT I FOLLOW AGO WAS YOUR ESTIMATED TRAFFIC, UH, COUNTS FOR YOUR DEVELOPMENT. WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS WHAT YOU'VE PROPOSED OR WHAT YOU THINK YOUR COUNT IS, AND THEN INCLUDE THE OTHER COUNT THAT YOU SAID YOU INCLUDED IN YOUR CONSIDERATION. IS IT THE SAME, IS IT LOWER? UH, YES MA'AM, IT IS LOWER. THIS IS PERFECT SLIDE TO SPEAK FROM AND I, I'LL TRY AND KEEP IT BRIEF. SO THERE'S MULTIPLE FACETS TO THE T I A PORTION. THIS IS AN OUTPUT FROM A STANDARDIZED TABLE THAT USED NATIONALLY PUBLISHED, UH, TRAFFIC, UH, TRIP GENERATION CODE MM-HMM. . AND SO AS YOU CAN SEE THERE'S AM AND A PEAK HOUR AND THEN A TOTAL DAILY, IF YOU FOCUS ALL THE WAY OVER TO THE RIGHT, THAT'S THE EASIEST POINT IN THE BOLD NUMBERS. SO IN THE PEAK HOUR, I, I CAN'T READ IT. SORRY. CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THAT NUMBER IS? I CANNOT READ THE SCREEN. YES, MA'AM. I'LL, I'LL SUMMARIZE IT THERE. SO IN THE PEAK HOUR, A COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTER IN THE MORNING, SO THAT'S, UH, FROM 7:00 AM TO 9:00 AM UH, GENERATES 130 MULTIFAMILY IS 1 38. SO THERE'S A SLIGHT INCREASE IN THE PEAK HOUR FROM 7:00 AM TO 9:00 AM NEXT COLUMN IS THE PM PEAK HOUR, SO THAT'S FROM 4:00 PM TO 6:00 PM YOU CAN SEE THERE'S, UH, OR THERE'S 527 FROM COMMERCIAL 168 FROM MULTIFAMILY. SO A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION THERE. THE THIRD COLUMN IS THE TOTAL DAILY GENERATED TRIPS. SO COMMERCIAL IS 5,225, MULTIFAMILY IS 2,196. AND THAT'S FOR THE COMPLETE COMPLEX OF THE OVERLOOK. AND THIS PROPOSED COMPLEX? NO MA'AM. THIS GENERATION ANALYSIS, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING YOU. I I I DON'T WANNA KNOW THAT. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE ENVISIONED. YOUR TRAFFIC COUNT WILL BE BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE PRESENTING TODAY AND IF YOU HAVE INCLUDED OR NOT INCLUDED THE TRAFFIC COUNT THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS FROM THAT VERY LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT NEIGHBORS THIS SITE. OKAY, GOTCHA. I APOLOGIZE. SO, NO, THAT IS, THAT TOTAL OVERALL ANALYSIS IS PART OF THE NEXT STEP. WHAT WE HAVE DONE HERE IS DONE A QUICK SNAPSHOT ANALYSIS TO SHOW THE ZONING CHANGE RESULTS IN A REDUCTION MM-HMM. THE OVERALL MM-HMM. , STUBING FARM, M D P TIA A WILL BE ANALYZED WITH THE M D P REVISION, WHICH IS PART OF THE NEXT STEPS. OKAY. AND, AND THAT'S PART OF MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING THIS TODAY WITHOUT [01:20:01] THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS UNDERSTANDING THE FULL PICTURE. I BELIEVE THAT COMPLEX NEXT DOOR TO YOU IS AROUND 304 UNITS. UM, I COULD BE OFF ON THAT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE. AND AT THIS TIME THOSE ROADWAYS ARE, IS THAT, WHAT, WOULD YOU DESCRIBE THOSE ROADWAYS AS ONE LANE EACH WAY? I DON'T KNOW THE TECHNICAL TERM FOR THOSE TWO ROADS. NO, MA'AM. UH, THEY, IT'S NOT, THAT IS A, A PURE INGRESS, EGRESS EASEMENT AND A FULL FIRE LANE FOR THAT. BUT THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX IS IN THE OVERALL STOOPING FARM MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AND I APOLOGIZE, IT'S NOT IN THE SLIDESHOW. DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MM-HMM. PROJECT? WELL THAT, THAT, AND WE'VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THAT THE WHOLE PLAN WAS UPDATED AND MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY. SO MY POINT THAT I'M GETTING TO YOU IS WHERE THAT FEEDER ROAD EXITS ON TODAY'S VALLA, THERE IS NO INTERSECTION AND THERE IS NO WAY TO PUT A TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE. THERE REALLY IS NO LEFT HAND TURN OUT OF THAT COMPLEX. ARE YOU PROPOSING TO SOMEHOW CHANGE THAT? NO, MA'AM. THAT THAT'S A, A RIDE IN, RIDE OUT, UM, ACCESS POINT AT DAYS. MM-HMM. . OKAY. SO THEN ALL OF THE TRAFFIC TRAVELING NORTH ON DAYS OF, OR I KNOW IF THAT'S NORTH NORTHEAST ON DAYS OF ALLAR ROUNDING, THAT CURVE WOULD THEN HAVE TO TURN LEFT ON JV BACON AND GO DOWN TO YOUR INGRESS EGRESS ROAD. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. THEY'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE EXISTING SIGNAL AND HEAD NORTH ON JV BACON. MM-HMM. . OKAY. SO THEN YOU'RE REALLY PUSHING PROBABLY THE MAJORITY OF YOUR ENTRANCE TRAFFIC OR, OR EXIT TRAFFIC ONTO JV BACON, JUST FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE THAT IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET OUT OF THE DAYS OF ALLAH ROADWAY BECAUSE YOU HAVE TRAFFIC COMING AROUND DAYS OF ALLAH. UH, AGAIN, WITHOUT YIELDING OR ANYTHING, THAT'S A VERY DIFFICULT AND DANGEROUS, UH, EGRESS. AND I CAN TELL YOU FROM LIVING IN THE AREA, SO THAT, AND I KNOW IT SAYS COMMENTARY, THAT'S ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS IS THE TRAFFIC AND JUST THE DIFFICULTY WITH THAT PROPERTY. SECOND THING, UH, BACK TO THE APPLICANT IS THE DAIRY BARNS. AND I, I KNOW THE COMMUNITY TRIED TO HAVE THOSE HISTORICALLY ASSIGNED AND THAT CASEY AGREED THAT THEY WOULD PROTECT THOSE TWO UH, STRUCTURES. HOW WILL THAT BE DONE IF THE WHOLE PROPERTY IS REZONED, MULTIFAMILY? THERE WON'T BE ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN DO, UH, AT LEAST NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF A COMMERCIAL USE FOR THAT, WHETHER YOU EVER WANTED TO PUT IN A COFFEE SHOP OR WHAT HAVE YOU. WHAT, WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR THE BARNS? UH, RIGHT NOW? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN INSIDE THE BARN, IT, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT. THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT PIECES. SO KC DEVELOPMENT IS COMMITTED TO KEEPING IT, BUT NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW IT WILL BE UTILIZED YET. IT WILL BE, UH, YOU KNOW, MADE, UPDATED, MADE LOOK NICER, UM, RESTORED IN SOME REGARD. BUT IN TERMS OF ACTUAL USE, WHETHER IT BECOMES PART OF THE APARTMENTS, THE APARTMENTS, UM, THAT'S PROBABLY THE, THE BEST OPTION. SOME SORT OF AMENITY FOR THE EXISTING OR THE FUTURE APARTMENT COMPLEX. UM, BUT RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOT A DEFINITIVE PLAN FOR THAT FARM. OKAY. UM, AND WITH THE CHANGE, UH, AND I'M ASSUMING THIS IS A CHANGE WITH THE PROPOSED TOWN HOMES UP FRONT, HAVE YOU HAD ANY DISCUSSION WITH OAKMONT DOWNS REGARDING THE, THE PROPOSED CHANGE TO YOUR SITE PLAN? UH, THEY, THEY HAVE SEEN THAT SITE PLAN AND ARE AWARE OF THE TOWN HOMES, YES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UH, SECOND ROUND OF QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT COMMISSIONERS BESIDES COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ, ACTUALLY, I HAD ONE QUESTION TO STAFF. IS THERE A WAY TO PUT DEEDED RESTRICTIONS FOR THAT BARN INTO PLACE THAT WAY? THEY WERE, IT'S, IT'S SET, UH, IT'S SOMETHING BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE DEVELOPER OR THE DEVELOPER AND THE PROPERTY OWNER. BUT, UH, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ENFORCE AS PART OF THE ZONING. ASHLEY, SORRY, CAN WE COME UP? WOULD THAT SOMETHING BE TO BE CONSIDERED MAYBE OR EVEN TALKED ABOUT BY THE TIME WE GO TO CITY COUNCIL? YES, DEFINITELY. THAT'S SOMETHING, I MEAN, WE'VE ALREADY PUT IT TOGETHER, BUT THERE HAS TO BE ANOTHER PARTY FOR THAT, SO. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON. OKAY. NO MORE QUESTIONS FOR ME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. NOW COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. THANKS. UM, JUST ONE QUESTION, WELL, TWO QUESTIONS ACTUALLY IS HOW MANY UNITS TOTAL? UH, 292. OKAY. AND WHAT, UM, WHAT'S YOUR UNIT MIX? SO BREAKDOWN? UH, IT'S 65%, ONE BEDROOM, 35%, TWO BEDROOM. OKAY, THANKS. SURE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? LEFT FURTHER QUESTIONS? RIGHT. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT EIGHT CASE AS I'VE MENTIONED, UH, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION. THANK YOU. UM, I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY [01:25:01] FOR THEIR TIME, OF COURSE, FOR THE VOICEMAILS AND IN THE PRESENTATION AS WELL. UM, ONE THING I DO FEEL IS I DO FEEL THAT THE, UM, REZONING DOES HELP THE AREA, IT DOES WORK WITH THE PLAN FOR SAN ANTONIO TOMORROW AND HELPS THE HOUSING THAT'S NEEDED FOR THE U T S A AREA. SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THIS ZONING CASE. THANK YOU. RIGHT THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? I'M GOING WITH COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. SHE WAS CLOSER. IT GOT TO ME FIRST. . UH, ALRIGHT, SO THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER IS TO MY LEFT COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION. UM, I THINK THAT, UM, I, I AGREE WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ IN THAT, UM, THIS IS, UH, ULTIMATELY A, A GOOD THING FOR THE AREA AND THAT IT WILL BRING SOME DEVELOPMENT AND ADDITIONAL HOUSING OPTIONS, UM, AND ALSO POTENTIALLY REDUCE TRAFFIC AS SEEN BY THE TRAFFIC COUNTS. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, I THINK IS IMPORTANT, UM, ONE OF THE, THE VOICEMAILS TALKED ABOUT SCHOOLS AND THE SCHOOLS BEING OVERRUN, BUT THE FACT THAT THIS WILL BE LARGELY, UM, ONE BEDROOM AND EFFICIENCY UNITS WILL MEAN THAT YOU WON'T BE ADDING JUST A TON OF, UM, OF KIDS TO THE SCHOOLS IN THAT AREA. UM, ALSO, I THINK JUST GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SO MUCH GROWTH IN SAN ANTONIO AND WE'RE IN A HOUSING CRISIS, UM, ACTUALLY THERE WAS A STUDY THAT JUST CAME OUT THAT SAID THAT, UM, FOR EVERY ONE LEASE SIGNED, THERE ARE THREE, SORRY, FOR EVERY THREE LEASES SIGNED, THERE IS ONE APARTMENT UNIT BEING BUILT AND READY TO LEASE. SO I THINK THAT HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF DENSITY IN AREAS LIKE THIS AND ADDING TO OUR HOUSING STOCK WILL HELP, UM, OVERALL FROM TERMS OF PUBLIC POLICY. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL DISCUSSION? YES, PLEASE. UM, THANK YOU. AND, UM, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION, BEING VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA AND VERY FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF THE APARTMENT DEVELOPMENTS GOING UP OUT HERE IN THIS AREA. I THINK WE HAVE A VERY DIVERSE, UM, SELECTION OF HOUSING OUT HERE. AND I, I'M GONNA STAND WITH COMMUNITY. I THINK THAT CALLS FOR SOME KIND OF MIXED USE COMMERCIAL, EVEN A MIX OF RETAIL HOUSING POSSIBLY, BUT NOT, UM, ADDING IN A ANOTHER 300 HOMES TO A VERY LARGE, COMPLEX NEXT DOOR, WHICH IS GOING TO DEFINITELY CAUSE SOME TRAFFIC ISSUES AND, AND PROBABLY SOME TRAFFIC COLLISIONS IN THAT VERY TIGHT AREA. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ALRIGHT, SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE ROLL CALL VOTE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? NO. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. UH, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS FORREST WILSON, SENIOR PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. UM, ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS K Z 2021. 1 0 7 0 0 2 9 1 CD UH, LOCATED AT 22 8 0 6 RIGSBY AVENUE. IT'S A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO C TWO C D COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR A RECORD SERVICE WITH OUTSIDE STORAGE, SALES AND AUCTION WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. THERE WERE THIR 18 NOTICES MAILED TWO IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE COMANCHE COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE EASTERN TRIANGLE COMMUNITY PLAN AND IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED AS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL IN THE FUTURE LAND USE COMPONENT OF THE PLAN. THE REQUESTED C TWO COMMERCIAL BASED ZONING DISTRICT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND THE APPLICANT HAS AMENDED THEIR REQUEST TO C TWO NA, UH, AND AGREED TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. SO ONE IS THE NO ALCOHOL SALES, TWO IS THE FREESTANDING, NO FREESTANDING POLE, L E D OR FLASHING SIGNAGE OR TEMPORARY BANNERS, PENANCE OR PROMOTIONAL FLAGS SLASH FLYERS. THREE. NO DOWNWARD FACING LIGHTING OR, SORRY, DOWNWARD FACING LIGHTING ONLY FOUR. NO OUTDOOR [01:30:01] AMPLIFIED SOUND OR SPEAKERS PERMITTED. FIVE. ALL BUILDINGS SHALL NOT EXCEED 40 FEET IN HEIGHT. SIX. A SIX FOOT SOLID SCREEN FENCING ON ALL SIDES AND SEVEN A 40 FOOT BUFFER ON SIDES. ABUTTING RESIDENTIALLY ZONED ADJACENT PROPERTIES. UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT AND MR. SERNA, YOU HEARD, UH, THE CONDITIONS AS READ AND THE AMENDMENT CORRECT? UH, BALTAZAR SERNA 2 3 7 WEST TRAVIS, SUITE 100, UH, SANTO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 5. I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT, CLAY JACKSON AND WE ARE IN AGREEMENT, UH, WITH, WITH ALL THOSE CONDITIONS OVER THE LAST, UH, 45 DAYS. WE'VE VISITED WITH THE COUNCIL DISTRICT'S OFFICE ON SEVERAL TIME, UH, SEVERAL TIMES AND, AND HAVE COME UP WITH THESE LIST OF CONDITIONS TO SATISFY, UH, ANY CONCERNS SHE MIGHT HAVE FOR PEOPLE THAT WERE IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. UH, WE ARE HERE, UH, I HAVE, WE HAVE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. WE'RE HERE AS, AS, AS HE SAID, IT'S, UH, CURRENTLY ZONED C TWO. AND WE'RE ASKING FOR CONDITIONAL USE, UH, FOR RECORD SERVICE OUTSIDE STORAGE, UH, AND HOPEFULLY CAN SUPPORT US. AND WE'RE HERE AND WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU MR. CERNA. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, SIR. THIS, UH, ITEM WAS PULLED FOR THE SPEAKER, GUS GONZALEZ. MR. GONZALEZ, IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF, GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US YOUR POSITION ON THIS PROJECT. GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. UH, MY NAME'S GUS GONZALEZ. UH, 1 7 2 BONAIRE 7 8 2 2 2. I GOT A SHORT, UH, PRESENTATION ABOUT EIGHT SLIDES. THIS IS THE EAST TRIANGLE COMMUNITY PLAN AREA THAT I SNIPPED FROM THE ACTUAL ADOPTED PLAN. UH, THE SECOND SLIDE, UH, SHOWS SECOND SLIDE SLOWS SHOWS THE, UH, EXISTING COMMUNITY PLAN OF 2009. YOU CAN SEE, UH, THERE WAS SOME PURPLE IN THERE THAT REPRESENTS I ONE, UH, THE I ONE ACROSS THE STREET IS THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, UH, TRANSFER STATION. THIS IS THE FUTURE PLAN THAT WAS DEVELOPED BY THE COMMUNITY PLAN. OVER 28 MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE WITH PROBABLY ANOTHER 75 PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY CAME UP WITH A PLAN THEY, THEY ADOPTED IN 2009. AND SO YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING ALONG, UH, RIGSBY IS C TWO, THE LIGHT PURPLE IS, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. SO THIS IS THE CURRENT ZONING MAP, 2022. IT'S ALL IN RED. IT'S C TWO. UM, AND, AND SO IT, IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THE PLAN IS WORKING. I MEAN, IT, IT, THE PLAN WANTED THIS WHOLE AREA TO GO TO C TWO AND NOT I ONE OR STATE IN I ONE, EVEN IN THE PLAN ACROSS THE STREET FOR THAT TRANSFER STATION, THE CITY WHERE THE PLAN IDENTIFIED THAT THAT AREA TO GO HIGH DENSITY, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THIS IS COMING STRAIGHT OUT OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN. IF, IF YOU IMPLY THAT, UM, THAT AUTO ZONE OR AUTO STORAGE IS AND IS AN I ONE IF YOU, IF YOU SAY THAT'S SPECIFIC, IT SAYS RIGHT HERE THE USE IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH RESIDENTIAL USES AND SHOULD BE SEPARATED FROM RESIDENTIAL USES BY AN INTERMEDIATE LAND USE OR SIGNIFICANT BUFFER. ANY OUTSIDE STORAGE MUST BE UNDER ROOF. THAT'S, THAT'S UNDER I ONE AND I'LL SHOW YOU THE NEXT, UH, SLIDE FROM THE MATRIX. THE MATRIX SHOWS, UM, COMING STRAIGHT OUT OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, ZONING MATRIX AUTO AND LIGHT AUCTION, UH, SPECIAL USE UNDER LIGHT, PERMITTED UNDER I ONE, UH, PARKING AND STORAGE, LONG TERM PERMITTED, PERMITTED UNDER, UH, LIGHT AND, UH, INDUSTRIAL USE. SO MY FINAL SLIDE, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING TO DEVELOP RESIDENTIAL HOUSES, R SIX BEHIND, UH, THIS, THIS, UH, OUTSIDE STORAGE. UH, IT JUST DOESN'T COMPLIMENT THE EASTERN TRIANGLE COMMUNITY PLAN. IT WILL BE A 24 7 OPERATION. I'M AFRAID, YOU KNOW, THE, JUST THE NOISE FROM THE BACKUP HORNS IS GONNA BE SIGNIFICANT LIGHT POLLUTION FROM THE POLES. I KNOW THERE'S, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT FACING 'EM DOWN. UM, THEY'RE GONNA COME IN FROM, FROM BONE, AIR, UH, INTO THAT DRIVEWAY. AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WELL, THEY'RE NOT GONNA GO ALL THE WAY DOWN BONE AIR. THEY'RE CERTAINLY GONNA, YOU KNOW, GO DOWN, YOU KNOW, HALFWAY OR SO. UM, IF, IF ALLOWED, THEY PLAN TO DO ANOTHER FIVE ACRES TO THE EAST WITH A TOTAL OF 600 CARS IN STORAGE. UM, THAT OUR PANEL FENCING, I, I, I THINK IT'S MORE INDUSTRIAL. UM, AND, AND THANK YOU MR. GONZALEZ. THAT IS YOUR TIME. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, SIR. ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? THAT'S ALL WE HAVE, SIR. MR. CERNA, BRIEF REBUTTAL? UH, JUST BRIEF, IF WE COULD PUT THE, UM, THE [01:35:01] PLAN SITE, THE ZONING AROUND IT. JUST, JUST, UH, TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR I ONE, THIS STARTED OFF AS AN I ONE APPLICATION BEFORE I WAS INVOLVED, UH, AND FOUND OUT, UH, PRETTY QUICKLY THAT I ONE DIDN'T FIT HERE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES OR SURROUNDING, UH, ZONING AROUND THE PROPERTY, THE MAJORITY OF IT IS C TWO. WE'RE STAYING CONSISTENT WITH THE C TWO ZONING. THAT'S WHY WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE, THAT'S WHY THE COUNCILWOMAN IS SUPPORTIVE OF IT. AND SHE CAME UP WITH THESE LIST OF CONDITIONS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE LIST OF CONDITIONS, THEY, THEY PRETTY MUCH ADDRESS ALL THE CONCERNS HE HAS. UH, AND THE OTHER POINT THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE IS THE, THE RESIDENTIAL, UM, THAT ARE IN THE REAR. THAT'S WHERE THE, THE BUFFER WILL GO. IT'LL BE A 40 FOOT BUFFER, UH, TO PROTECT THOSE RESTAURANT RESIDENTS. AND THOSE AREN'T SMALL PROPERTIES, THOSE ARE LARGE ESTATES THAT THEY HAVE BACK THERE. SO WE TOOK ALL THAT IN CONSIDERATION WHEN WE, WHEN WE SAT DOWN WITH THE COUNCILMAN'S, UH, OFFICE TO TRY AND GET THIS DONE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. ALRIGHT, THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE, UH, COMMISSIONER FUENTES TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. UH, QUESTION FOR MR. SERENA. YES. SO, UH, SOME OF THE CONCERNS WERE AROUND SAFETY. UM, CAN YOU ADDRESS, UH, WHAT MEASURES WOULD BE TAKEN ON THIS LOT FOR SAFETY AS FAR AS SECURITY? YES. IN THE AREA. WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME ADDRESS THAT, JEFF OR CLAY, ABOUT THE SECURITY THAT YOU HAVE ON THE PROPERTY? AND IF YOU WOULD, SIR, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS. JEFF COMAN. UM, 4 22 STEVES AVENUE, SAN ANTONIO, 7 8 2 0 4. UM, IT WILL BE BANNED 24 HOURS A DAY WITH, UH, AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE ON STAFF. UH, AS FAR AS THE NOISE ON THE BON AIR OR THE BACKUP ALARM HE WAS ADDRESSING, OUR DROP AREA WILL BE RIGHT UP AGAINST SBY BY THE CAR WASH, WHICH IS A GOOD, GOOD DISTANCE FROM THE RESIDENTIAL. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FUENTES, UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ALRIGHT, THERE BEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER FUENTES TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION. I'D LIKE TO, UH, MOVE TO APPROVE WITH ALL CONDITIONS LISTED SECOND. SO I'LL SECOND THAT. AND, UH, UH, I GOT COMMISSIONER WHITE AS THE FIRST SECOND. COMMISSIONER FUENTES. UH, THAT IS, UH, THERE IS AN AMENDMENT FOR NA, CORRECT? THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT. SO A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO ADD THE AS AMENDED. AS AMENDED. OKAY. UH, AND COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT? YES. ALRIGHT. UH, THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE AS AMENDED WITH ALL CONDITIONS AS READ ON THE RECORD, UH, BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES. A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITE. DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ALRIGHT, THERE BEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION AGAIN, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED AND WITH CONDITIONS AS READ ON THE RECORD BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES. A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITE. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER FUENTES? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. SORRY, I WAS HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, DID YOU GET ME? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR BUSTAMONTE AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED WITH CONDITIONS ON THE RECORD. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN PLEASE. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C ONE A H O D TO C THREE A H O D LOCATED AT 1804 WEST MARTIN STREET. STAFF [01:40:01] DOES FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE PRIMARILY ZONED I ONE. HOWEVER, MOST OF THE EXISTING LAND USE FOR THIS AREA IS SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, OR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL. THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT THEY ARE AMENDING THEIR REQUEST TO C TWO CD. THE NOTICES MAILED FOR THIS ITEM ARE 35 NOTICES. GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED. THERE WERE NO NE UH, EXCUSE ME, THERE WERE NO NOTICES RECEIVED IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION. PROSPECT HILL IS IN SUPPORT AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM REST WEST IN HOPE IN ACTION. MR. CHAIR. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? HI. HELLO. THANK YOU FOR WELCOME US, WELCOME US, US BACK. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. UH, MY NAME'S VERONICA RIFFLE. I RESIDE AT 79 18 OXBOW WAY. AND THESE ARE MY PARTNERS, MELANIE MARTINEZ AND NATASHA RIFFLE. WE JUST HAVE A SMALL PRESENTATION THAT WE'D LIKE TO SHOW Y'ALL, ONCE AGAIN IS PROBABLY REAL QUICK, LIKE FOUR OR FIVE SLIDES. OKAY. UM, I KNOW Y'ALL WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE HOURS OF OPERATION, SO WE WANTED TO PUT IT ON PAPER SO EVERYONE CAN SEE IT. UM, I KNOW WE WERE FI UM, KIND OF TALKING ABOUT SUNDAYS STATE OF CLOSING A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THAN 12:00 AM. UM, BUT THESE WERE THE HOURS THAT WE REALLY TRY TO GO FOR. UM, WE ARE CLOSED MONDAYS AND TUESDAYS, SO WE UNDERSTAND IT'S STILL A NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, WE ARE CLOSE TO HOUSES, BUT A LOT OF THE LOTS NEXT TO US ARE EITHER, UM, VACANT LOTS OR, UM, ABANDONED AREAS. UM, SO I'M GONNA GO TO NEXT SLIDE. UM, SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE NOISE BARRIERS THAT WE TOOK, UH, JUST FOR EXAMPLE TO SHOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA KIND OF PLAN ON DOING AS FAR AS TO HELP WITH THE NOISE FOR, IT'S NOT REACHING THE NEIGHBORS AS MUCH. UM, SO THE, THAT TOP RIGHT ONE THAT'S CURRENTLY A BAR THAT I OWN AND, UH, THERE'S A HOUSE RIGHT BEHIND US. SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE, UH, PUT PLYWOOD ON TOP OF THE EXISTING FENCE, WHICH IS SIX FEET. AND THEN, UM, WE PUT, UH, IT'S THIS, UH, BLACK KIND OF TARP RIGHT IN BETWEEN AND IT'S A NOISE. IT'S A, IT'S SUPPOSED TO HELP WITH NOISE ON THERE. AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT WE PUT THE PLYWOOD AND THEN WE PUT A GRASS WALL. SO IT KIND OF HELPS AND IT ALSO LOOKS PRETTY. SO, UM, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE, I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA DO ONE OF THOSE THINGS. UH, THIS ONE, THIS WHITE FENCE IS WHAT WE'RE PLANNING ON PUTTING ON OUR PROPERTY, WHICH WOULD BE CINDER BLOCKS, FOUR FEET HIGH, AND THEN THE REST OF THE TWO FEET WOULD BE THE ONE WITH THE DESIGN ON TOP. UH, JUST TO BEAUTIFY IT A LITTLE BIT. UM, AND I THINK THE NEXT SLIDE, IT, UH, WE CAN SHOW YOU WHERE WE'RE GONNA PUT IT. DO Y'ALL WANNA UNDER, SO THIS IS ON THE ACTUAL PROPERTY. WE ARE AT THE CORNER OF NORTH SMITH AND MARTIN STREET. THIS IS THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY WHERE YOU SEE THE STAR THAT'S OUT THE FRONT DOOR WHERE IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE THE BAR WHERE PEOPLE WOULD ENTER, UM, THE PROPERTY THERE, WHERE THE, WHERE THE RED TRUCK IS, THAT IS ACTUAL WHOLE PARKING LOT. IT'S, UM, PRETTY WIDE, UH, WHERE IT, IT'S, IT'S COVERED WITH, UM, ACTUAL BLACK TART, UM, TAR. SO IT'S, IT'S A FLAT PAVEMENT. AND, UM, OVER HERE, ACROSS THE STREET WHERE THOSE PALM TREES ARE, THAT IS ACTUALLY THE, THE LOT WHERE WE'RE IN, UM, NEGOTIATIONS WITH, WITH, UM, OUR NEIGHBOR WHO'S LITERALLY ACROSS THE STREET FOR PARKING. IT'S COMPLETELY EMPTY. IT'S HUGE. IT'S PROBABLY BIGGER TWO TIMES THE SIZE OF THIS ROOM. SO WE'RE IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH HIM FOR PARKING DIRECTLY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALL A VIEW. UM, THE ONE AT THE VERY TOP. SO THIS ONE RIGHT HERE AT THE VERY TOP, THIS WOULD BE THE FRONT. AND RIGHT HERE WE ALSO HAVE THIS LITTLE SECTION RIGHT THERE TO THE RIGHT. THIS WOULD BE THE MAIN PLACE WHERE THE BAR WOULD BE RIGHT HERE IS NOTHING. BUT, UM, UM, IT'S CEDARWOOD. IT, IT, THEY, THEY JOIN FROM ONE SPOT TO ANOTHER. AND OVER HERE TOWARDS THE BACK WHERE I'M AIMING RIGHT HERE TOWARDS THE BACK [01:45:01] IS WHERE WE WOULD NORMALLY PUT THE DJ FOR SPECIAL EVENTS. BUT MOST OF THE TIME THE DJ IS GONNA BE IN THE INSIDE OF THE HOUSE WITH JUST KIND OF SPEAKERS FILTERING OUT THROUGH THE OUTSIDE. THIS LITTLE SPOT RIGHT HERE IS GONNA BE MAINLY FOR STORAGE. UM, PUT SOME STORAGE IN THEIR CUPS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. AND, UM, WE CAN JUST WALK BACK AND FORTH. SO, UM, THAT'S JUST ALSO ANOTHER FRONT VIEW. SO THIS IS A, UH, A QUICK VIEW A TWO, UM, BASICALLY A TWO D, TWO D THREE D VIEW. THIS WOULD BE WHERE THE FOOD TRUCK IS. THIS IS WHERE THE PAVEMENT IS EXACTLY THE HARD TOP. THIS IS ALL PARKING LOT RIGHT HERE. THAT ON THE, THE, THE NEIGHBOR IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET WHERE I WAS TALKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE. WE WOULD DRIVE THE FOOD TRUCK IN RIGHT HERE. THE FOOD TRUCK COMES IN, THE FOOD TRUCK GOES OUT. WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME NICE PRETTY UMBRELLAS HERE. THIS IS ALREADY MADE. IT'S GOT CEDARWOOD HERE, PATIO, AND THIS IS THE ACTUAL BAR IN THE INSIDE. WE WOULD HAVE THE BAR RIGHT HERE. IT'S NOT VERY BIG. WE'D PUT THE DJ RIGHT HERE IN THE CORNER OR WE'D HAVE 'EM OVER HERE IN THE CORNER. WE HAVE BATHROOMS ALREADY LINED UP RIGHT HERE. AND THEN WE HAVE AN AREA HERE. THERE'S AN AREA THAT'S RIGHT HERE. IT'S, IT'S A BIG SHED, A HUMONGOUS SHED THAT WE LIKE TO KNOCK OUT AND EXTEND THE CEDAR. WE LIKE THE CEDAR JUST TO GO BACK THAT WAY. AND WE'D LIKE TO PUT THE DJ OUT HERE DURING SPECIAL EVENTS. NOW IN THIS BACK AREA RIGHT HERE, THERE'S A VACANT HOME. THERE'S NOBODY THAT LIVES THERE ON THE SIDE OF US RIGHT HERE. THERE'S ALSO, UM, THE NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET IS, UM, THE OWNER OF A MECHANIC SHOP AND THERE'S NOTHING BUT CARS THERE. SO IT'S ALSO VACANT. IT'S A VACANT LOT ALSO. SO WE HAVE A VACANT LOT RIGHT HERE. WE HAVE A VACANT NEIGHBOR HERE. AND THEN WE HAVE ACTUAL NORTH SMITH STREET. AND THEN OF COURSE THE PARKING LOT OVER THERE. AND THIS IS JUST THE OPEN AREA WHERE I WAS SHOWING YOU GUYS WHERE IT WOULD BE, YOU WALK IN HERE AND IT'S JUST A RESTROOM HERE AND IT'S JUST OFFICE SPACE. THIS HILL SPACE HERE IS A STORAGE ROOM. YOU GOT THE, THE RESTROOM RIGHT HERE. AND THEN THIS IS JUST AN OPEN FLOOR ALSO FOR STORAGE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO CONDUCT BUSINESS. SO WE'D COME OUT OF HERE AND UM, THIS IS JUST A ROUGH DRAFT, IT'S JUST KIND OF AN IDEA. AND ALL THESE LITTLE PLANTS HERE IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WOULD PUT UP THE NORRIS BARRIERS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH WE KNOW THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE, UH, BETWEEN SIX FEET TO SEVEN FEET. AND WE LIKE TO BEAUTIFY THAT. WE HAVE HEDGES HERE ALREADY THAT ARE ALREADY HERE ON THE PROPERTY ALL LINED UP. BUT WE WOULD RAISE THEM WITH THOSE, UM, WHITE BARRIERS, THOSE, THOSE CEDAR BLOCKS. THAT'S WHAT WE LIKE TO USE. AND THIS IS KIND OF OUR VISION OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING IN THE INSIDE. WE'VE BEEN DOING SOME RESEARCH ON BARS THAT ARE NOT ONLY IN SAN ANTONIO BUT OUT OF TOWN, KIND OF SMALL LIKE OURS. WE DON'T, IT'S NOT A VERY BIG PLACE, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE WE SAID, IT'D BE A TAVERN BAR. THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE INSIDE. WE LIKE TO HAVE SOMETHING JUST LIKE THAT WITH SOME, WITH A LITTLE SPOT RIGHT THERE. THE DJ RIGHT HERE ON THE RIGHT. AND THAT LITTLE PARKING LOT IS THE IDEA THAT WE HAD FOR THE OUTSIDE JUST WITH UMBRELLAS, WHETHER IT'S PICNIC TABLES OR UMBRELLAS. PUT SOMETHING ON THE, ON THE, ON THE TOP RIGHT THERE. AND OF COURSE JUST PUT SOME TABLES AND BE ABLE TO CLOSE IT UP DURING THE SUMMER. AND OF COURSE BEAUTIFY THE BATHROOMS. THE GIRLS' BATHROOM, UH, WE HAVE TWO GIRLS' BATHROOMS AND, AND ONE MEN'S RESTROOM AND OF COURSE JUST A LITTLE AREA THERE. SO, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO DECORATE OR WHATEVER. THAT'S JUST BABY, BASICALLY CRYSTAL BALLS OR YOU KNOW. SO THAT'S BASICALLY OUR IDEA AND WE'RE HOPING TO BE ABLE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH THE HOURS THAT, THAT, UM, WHERE WE'RE ASKING FOR, WE'RE WE'RE, WE DID DO A NEIGHBORHOOD, DID A NEIGHBORHOOD WALK ON SATURDAY. WE WALKED THE BLOCK AND THEY WERE VERY, VERY ACCEPTING TO US. SO WE REALLY APPRECIATED IT. I THINK WE HAD MAYBE TWO PEOPLE, TWO TO THREE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT JUST DIDN'T ANSWER THE DOOR. I DID SPEAK TO ONE MAN, HE WAS A SENIOR CITIZEN A LOT OLDER, PROBABLY LIKE IN HIS SEVENTIES. HE OWNS THE TACO PLACE AT THE END. HIS WIFE'S NAME'S . SHE TOLD ME TO SPEAK TO HIM. I WENT TO SPEAK TO HIM, BUT HE JUST BASICALLY TOLD ME IN SPANISH, YOU KNOW, THAT HE DIDN'T WANNA GET INVOLVED AND WE UNDERSTOOD THAT WE APPRECIATE THE NEIGHBOR NEXT TO HIM. HE JUST DIDN'T OPEN THE DOOR. I'M PRETTY SURE THEY SAW US WALKING THE BLOCK, BUT I DON'T KNOW. THEY THOUGHT WE WERE DOING A BLOCK WALK OR WE JEHOVAH WITNESS OR YOU KNOW, CHURCH PEOPLE. THEY DON'T WANT TO OPEN THE DOOR FOR US. . YEAH, IT WAS A SATURDAY MORNING . YEAH, SO, YOU KNOW, BUT I WENT TO EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBOR. WE DID SPEAK TO EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBOR AND EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBOR DID SIGN OFF ON OUR, UM, WE HAD A CHART THAT WAS DONE. WE EMAILED THAT TO, UM, OUR CASEWORKER, YOU KNOW, TO SHOW THAT, UH, PEOPLE WERE IN FAVOR AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND LIKE I SAID, REAL QUICK, I DON'T WANNA TAKE, I KNOW ONLY GOT TWO MINUTES. WE'D LIKE TO JUST DO A QUICK BRUNCH IN THE MORNING BRUNCH, SERVE SOME, SOME, UM, SOME SPIRITS IN THE MORNING, FOUR O'CLOCK AND THEN, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING FOR THE NEIGHBORS TO WALK AND GET A HAMBURGER, HAVE SOME DRINKS, AND HAVE SOME MUSIC AND OF COURSE DO SOME SPECIAL EVENTS. AND WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS, OF COURSE WE ARE GONNA DO, WE, WE, WE WANT, WE'RE REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT SERVING AND DOING SOME SPECIAL EVENTS OUT THERE, LIKE WE SAID WITH C OVID 19, WITH THE FOOD BANK, WITH PLANNED PARENTHOOD, WITH WEST SIDE INN, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THEY'RE REAL BIG INTO UM, NATIONAL [01:50:01] NIGHT OUT, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO BRING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THAT'S ALL WE GOT. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU STAFF. IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGN IN TO SPEAK. YEN RODRIGUEZ. MR. RODRIGUEZ? HELLO COMMISSIONER. HELLO COMMISSIONER. MY NAME IS HIN RODRIGUEZ. I LIVE AT 4 5 0 NORTH SAN GABRIEL. UM, I'M HERE AS AN AT LARGE MEMBER OF THE GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND WE'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT, UM, GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS NOT NOTHING TO GAIN OR LOSE FROM THIS EXCEPT THAT WE'RE THERE TO, UH, REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY. UM, AS I MENTIONED, THEY DO HAVE A NICE LITTLE DRAWING, BUT SITE PLANS ARE REALLY WHAT'S REQUIRED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS IN WRITING AND STAMPED AS ENGINEERED. THE OTHER THING THAT CAME ACROSS THAT I CAME ACROSS IS THAT, UM, THIS SOUNDS KIND OF LIKE ST. MARY'S STREET, IT ALL STARTS FLYING AND LITTLE BY LITTLE STARTS TO DETERIORATE FROM MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. I LIVE OVER HALF A MILE OR LET'S SAY WITHIN HALF A MILE OF, UH, ROSEDALE PARK. AND THEY'RE ALWAYS READING THEIR DECIBEL READINGS, BUT, AND WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A BAROMETRIC PRESSURE OR WHAT THE HECK, BUT MY HOUSE SHAKES, I MEAN IT LITERALLY SHAKES, IT'S AN OLD HOUSE SO IT SHAKES. SO, UH, WHEN I HEAR, UM, UH, THE OTHER THING THAT DOES THAT IS WHEN THEY HAVE PARTIES, YOU KNOW, JUST REGULAR PARTIES ONCE IN A WHILE, THEY'RE FINE. I MEAN, YEAH, PARK ANYWHERE, WHO CARES? BUT WHEN IT'S A BUSINESS, IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY. THE CONCERN I ALSO HAVE IS THAT THERE'S A STREET BETWEEN THE PROPERTY THAT THEY WANT TO EXTEND TO, SO THEY WILL HAVE TO EXTEND. AND UM, SO NOW YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE HAVING A GOOD TIME, THEY'RE GONNA CROSS THE STREET IN WHICH PEOPLE TURN FROM MARTIN TO SMITH. SO THAT TO ME IS A SAFETY CONCERN. AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, WELL OUR CODES SAY THAT, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, IT SAYS ENCOURAGE BUSINESS AND DEVELOPERS TO WORK WITH NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS IN THE LOCATION AND DESIGN OF NEW DEVELOPMENT TO ENHANCE OR COMPLEMENT THE CHARACTER. DOES THIS FIT THE CHARACTER? NOW WE'RE PUTTING IN A BAR IN THERE. UM, THE OTHER ONE IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO LESSEN CONGESTION IN STREETS. IN THIS CASE, IF IT DOES GROW, UH, MY CONCERN IS SMITH STREET AND THAT IT'S A TINY STREET AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PATRONS HAVING TO CROSS BACK AND FORTH, UH, TO THE, UH, WE CALL IT FOOD. SO OF COURSE OUR PURPOSE IS TO PROMOTE THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY, MORALS AND GENERAL WELFARE AND PRESERVE PLACES AND CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS. SO THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, THAT WE'RE VERY CONCERNED AS A COMMUNITY. UH, THE PRESIDENT OF GARDENDALE AND UH, THE VICE PRESIDENT DID WALK THE AREA LIKE THEY HAD MENTIONED BEFORE, AND UNFORTUNATELY THEY COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY AND THEY ASKED IF I COULD BE HERE FOR THEM. SO I'M HERE FOR THAT. UM, THE ELDERLY, IT'S TRUE. IF YOU APPROACH AN ELDERLY PERSON, THEY'LL TELL YOU YES TO WHATEVER. SO THEY MIGHT, IF YOU SAY NO, THEY'LL SAY NO. IF THEY SAY YES, IT'S, THAT'S OUR CULTURE. WE DON'T LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, RUFFLE FEATHERS. BUT IN THIS CASE IT SEEMS THAT IT MIGHT BE A SAFETY ISSUE, UH, NOISE ISSUE, EVEN THOUGH THEY DO HAVE BARRIERS AND, UH, THEIR HOURS OF OPERATION. 12:00 AM 2:00 AM THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY, YOU KNOW, THOSE WERE LATE HOURS. I MEAN, AND LIKE I SAID, I LIVE HALF A MILE AWAY FROM ROSEDALE AND THEY'RE ALWAYS BEEN TOLD TO KEEP THEIR VOLUME DOWN. IT TURNS OUT IT IS THE RIGHT DISPOSAL AND THE NOISE DOES TRAVEL. SO IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE FOR ME AND EGRESS AND, YOU KNOW, BUT IN ANY CASE, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. MR. RODRIGUEZ. RUSSELL FELLON. ALRIGHT, MR. FELLON, HOW ARE YOU DOING? RUSSELL DEAN FALLON, 24 10 WEST COMMERCE, I'M ON THE PROSPECT HILL ASSOCIATION BOARD MEMBER. UH, AFTER THE LAST MEETING, UH, TALKING TO TALKING TO THE ZONING COMMISSIONER, WE DECIDED TO WALK THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND GET SIGNATURES. SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID. AND UH, IF YOU NOTICE ALL IN RED, THOSE, THOSE ARE FOR APPROVAL OR IN SUPPORT OF OUR ZONING. UH, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T WANT TO, TO, TO BE INVOLVED OR, OR HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH, WITH WHAT WE WERE DOING. THEY WERE SUSTAINED. SO THOSE WERE THE ONES IN BLUE. OKAY. UH, THERE WAS A COUPLE OF EMPTY LOTS THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANY HOUSES ON THERE, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO, UH, SEE SOME OWNERS THAT WERE CLEANING THEIR LOTS. SO THEY, THEY WERE FOR SUPPORT. [01:55:01] SO WE GOT 17 IN SUPPORT OF ZERO THAT DIDN'T, DIDN'T WANT TO, THEY WERE SUSTAINED OR AT LEAST THOSE BLUES SUSTAINED FROM IT. SO, UH, THEY WERE ALL IN THE 200 FEET. SO, UH, THE TWO ORANGE ARE VACANT THERE AND THE ONES ACROSS THE STREET, WE KNOW THE OWNER. SO HE SIGNED WHERE WE'RE GONNA PARK. AND, UH, THE, THE BLUES AT THE TOP, THE THREE ON THE CORNER IS THE RESTAURANT OWNER. HE OWNS THOSE TWO PROPERTIES. HE DIDN'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED. AND THE OTHER TWO BLUES, THEY, THEY COULD CARE LESS WHAT GOES AROUND IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WE GOT SEVEN IN SUPPORT. 17 IN SUPPORT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MR. FULLAM. ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, THAT WAS ALL, SIR. LET, UH, LET ME DOUBLE CHECK VOICEMAILS. NO. OKAY. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, OFFICER RIFFLE, IF YOU'D LIKE, UH, REBUTTAL BRIEFLY, SIR. ONCE AGAIN, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT, UM, I UNDERSTAND, I, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE SAFETY, UM, ISSUE. I UNDERSTAND THE NOISE. I, I, UM, AS, AS I'VE SAID, WE, WE'VE GOT A, WE'VE GOT A BIG BACKGROUND ON, ON THIS WHOLE, UM, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE JUST WOKE UP ONE DAY AND TODAY WE WANT TO DO THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH. IT'S KIND OF JUST LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, SECOND NATURE TO US, UM, SERVICE. UM, AS FAR AS, UM, I UNDERSTAND, UM, DALE'S CONCERNS AS FAR AS, UM, THE NOISE, I GET IT. UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT HAS TO COME DOWN TO, TO GOOD MANAGEMENT IS BEING IN COMPLIANCE. UM, I UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE BEING ON, ON MY SIDE, WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING AS FAR AS, UM, FINES, YOU KNOW, UM, BEING IN COMPLIANCE WITH T A B C, BEING IN COMPLIANCE WITH, UM, THE, THE FIRE MARSHALS BEING IN COMPLIANT WITH THE NOISE, UM, GETTING THE BARRIERS UP. UH, WE'RE WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR A CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO BRING SOMETHING TO, TO THE WEST SIDE. THAT'S IT. AND WE, WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE IT ANYWHERE ELSE. WE COULD HAVE GONE TO STONE OAK, I COULD HAVE GONE TO ALAMO HEIGHTS, WE COULD HAVE LOOKED OUTSIDE OF OUR DISTRICT, BUT WE REALLY HAVE A PASSION TO BRING IT TO DISTRICT FIVE. THAT IS WHERE OUR ROOTS ARE AND THAT'S WHERE WE WANNA BRING IT. WE REALLY WANT TO BE ABLE TO BRING SOMETHING NICE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THEY CAN JUST, LIKE I SAID, JUST GET UP IN THE MORNING ON SUNDAY AND JUST WALK DOWN THE STREET. DO THEY WANNA HAVE A DRINK AND WATCH THE FOOTBALL GAME OR, UM, HAVE A BEER AND THE SAME THING AT NIGHT? UM, I UNDERSTAND ABOUT CROWD CONTROL. I'VE SAID IT SO MANY TIMES, IT STARTS WITH YOUR DOOR GUY AND IT STARTS WITH, UH, HIRING SOME OFFICERS AT THE FRONT, YOUR FRONT DOOR TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY STAYS SAFE AND THAT, UM, EVERYBODY STAYS IN COMPLIANCE AND THAT WE DO THE RIGHT THING. I'VE, I'VE SAID IT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, WE ARE TRYING TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT. THERE ARE NO SECRETS HERE. UM, I, UH, WE, THAT'S WHY WE DID THE WALK AND SPOKE TO THE NEIGHBORS IN PERSON SO THAT WAY WE'D MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY, WE WERE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AND EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO. I KNOW THAT I WOULDN'T APPRECIATE IT IF SOMEBODY PUT SOMETHING UP AND NOBODY CAME KNOCKING AT MY DOOR AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE HAVING A RIBBON CUTTING AND, UM, NOBODY MADE AN ATTEMPT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO, TO LET US KNOW WHAT'S IN OUR BACKYARD. SO WE HAVE MADE A VALID EFFORT AND I, ONCE AGAIN, I APPRECIATE Y'ALLS TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, ALRIGHT, THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE, SO IT IS TO ME FOR QUESTIONS. UM, OFFICER UL, ACTUALLY, IF YOU COME BACK UP, PLEASE. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES TO ME IS THE PARKING. YES, SIR. NOW YOU'VE INDICATED THAT ACROSS SMITH STREET, UM, YOU ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING AN AGREEMENT. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. UH, WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE GETTING THAT AGREEMENT SIGNED? HE SAID AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. WE, HE'S GETTING, HE'S HAD A FALLING OUT WITH HIS, HIS PREVIOUS TENANT AND WE GOT WIND OF IT THAT IT WASN'T WORKING OUT WITH HIS TENANT. SO I, I WENT AND VISITED AND WE MET IN PERSON AND I TOLD HIM, HEY, YOU KNOW, I'D REALLY LIKE FOR US TO WORK SOMETHING OUT. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO, WE'RE NOT GONNA OPEN TOMORROW. THIS IS MORE OR LESS, WE STILL GOTTA DO RECONSTRUCTION AND WE GET APPROVED AND WE'RE LOOKING MORE TOWARDS THE SUMMER. AND HE SAYS, SURE, YOU KNOW, I'M A NEIGHBORLY PERSON, LET'S WORK SOMETHING OUT. UM, IT'S A VERY BIG LOT AND I TOLD HIM RIGHT NOW THE LOT IS SITTING HERE EMPTY AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOSING MONEY, SO LET'S MAKE A DEAL. AND I DID SPEAK TO ALSO THE, THE GENTLEMAN THAT OWNS THE SNACK SHOP AT THE END, THEY'RE DONE, THEY ARE DONE BY, BY TWO O'CLOCK. THE TACO SHOPS OSA AND HE OWNS A SHOPPING CENTER AT THE END OF THE BLOCK AND THEY'RE DONE AT FIVE O'CLOCK. WELL, WE START CONDUCTING BUSINESS AT FOUR. I TOLD HIM, SIR, I CAN ALWAYS GO CONE IT OFF. I'M WILLING TO PAY YOU FOR THE PARKING THAT'S OUT THERE. AND, UM, I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE CONTROL PARKING, YOU KNOW, AND I, AND UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU GET INVOLVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU GOTTA BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO YOUR SAFE OFFICERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SAY, HEY, WE, [02:00:01] WE HAVE THIS ESTABLISHMENT. WE'D APPRECIATE IF Y'ALL JUST DO SOME EXTRA PATROL BIAS. SO NOBODY'S BREAKING NO VEHICLES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU OFFICER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, OKAY, I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY THE PRIMARY QUESTION I HAVE AT THIS TIME. UH, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMERS TO MY LEFT? COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU. UM, SO YOU'RE, IF YOU HAD TO SAY HOW, WHAT, HOW MUCH OUTDOOR SPACE VERSUS INDOOR SPACE ARE YOU PLANNING ON HAVING? UM, FROM, FROM, FROM FENCE LINE TO FENCE LINE? I THINK IT'S 47,000 FEET, IF I'M CORRECT. AND WE LIKE TO USE ALL OF IT, KEEP EVERYBODY IN THE GATE. THAT'S THE WHOLE PLAN. NOBODY'S GONNA BE OUTSIDE THE GATE. IT'S GONNA BE, WE'RE, WE'RE RIGHT NOW COMPLETELY CONNECTED BY A IRON GATE. KEEP PEOPLE INSIDE THE GATE. THAT'S THE PLAN. I MEAN AS FAR LIKE INDOORS, LIKE WITHIN THE BUILDING VERSUS OUTDOORS, ARE YOU PROBABLY OUTDOORS? I THINK PEOPLE ARE JUST GONNA COME IN, GRAB THEIR DRINK AND EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE SITTING OUTSIDE AT THE TABLES WITH THE UMBRELLAS. I MEAN THAT, THAT'S THE IDEA. WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE KINDA LIKE A FRIENDLY SPOT. YOU GRAB YOUR DRINK, GO OUTSIDE. I'M PRETTY SURE THERE'S GONNA BE SOME PEOPLE KIND OF HANGING AROUND AND AND SOCIALIZING, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA STAND IN THERE. AIN'T NOTHING REALLY HAPPENING IN THE BUILDING BESIDES THE DRINKS, UNLESS THEY'RE GONNA SIT AT A COUPLE OF BAR STOOLS BECAUSE WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE A TV THAT'S THERE WHERE THEY COULD SIT DOWN. BUT MOST OF THE, MOST OF THE, EVERYBODY'S PROBABLY GONNA SIT OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, AND WHOEVER WANTS TO LISTEN TO MUSIC CAN BE INSIDE. BUT LIKE I SAID, WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE THE SPEAKERS THAT ARE GONNA FLOW OUTSIDE, SO. OKAY. UM, AND THEN HAVE YOU GUYS WORKED WITH A SOUND ENGINEER BY ANY CHANCE TO, TO TRY TO DAMPEN THE TRAVELING OF THE NOISE? I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT SOME BARRIERS. YES. BUT ARE YOU NOT AT THIS TIME? NOT AT THIS TIME, BUT WE SURE CAN. THAT, THAT SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE. WE'LL JUST LOOK FOR A SOUND ENGINEER, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE GONNA DO IT, WE'RE GONNA DO IT RIGHT. I'M NOT TRYING TO GO BACKWARDS. WE PUT THIS UP AND THEN WE'RE LIKE, HEY, THIS ISN'T WORKING. IT'S, YOU KNOW, GET A SOUND ENGINEER IN PLACE AND SOMEBODY TO COME OUT. SOMEBODY WHO'S PROFESSIONAL. I'M NOT A PROFESSIONAL IN SOUND, I JUST KNOW WHAT I JUST KNOW ABOUT COMPLIANCE AND THE DECIMALS. BUT AS FAR AS THE SOUND ENGINEER, HAVE SOMEBODY COME IN, TELL US EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO DO OR WHAT NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO BE UP AND WE CAN GO FROM THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER RE BOTTLES? I DO HAVE A QUESTION. UM, I, IS THIS A RELOCATION OF A BUSINESS, UH, OR, UH, TO A NEW LOCATION? UH, OR, OR IS A BRAND NEW BUSINESS? NO, SIR. IT USED TO BE A HAIR SALON. IT USED TO BE A HAIR SALON FOR YEARS IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND. BEFORE THAT IT USED TO BE AN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, A COUPLE OF ATTORNEYS RAN OUT OF THERE, BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG AGO THAT WAS. I JUST KNOW THAT WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE BUILDING THEY HAD JUST VACATED AND SHE RAN A HAIR SALON OUT OF THERE. SO MY SECOND QUESTION ON THIS, UM, IF YOU'RE GONNA SERVE B N ONE, YOU STILL NEED TO APPLY TO T A B C AND GO THROUGH ALL THE REQUIREMENTS. YES, SIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONS TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ALRIGHT. UM, SO I THINK WE'VE MADE SOME PROGRESS WITH THE LAST, UH, CONTINUANCE. UM, I THINK WE CAN GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER HERE. UM, I THINK THAT ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH CONCERN WITHIN NEIGHBORHOODS REGARDING THIS USE AND BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM GARDENDALE, MR. RODRIGUEZ, COME IN, UH, I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU CONTINUE TO REACH OUT WITH HIM. I KNOW THAT, WELL, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'M GONNA GUESS FOR SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS, THE 2:00 AM UH, CLOSING TIME IS GONNA BE AN ISSUE. SO I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT AND THE 12:00 AM ON SUNDAY, UH, AND SATURDAY, OR REALLY SUNDAY PROBABLY, UM, TO CONSIDER, CONTINUE CONSIDERING THAT. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY TO ME IS, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S THE POTENTIALITY OF PARKING AT THE CANDY SHOP OR THE SHOP DOWN THE STREET. THERE'S THE POTENTIAL FOR PARKING ACROSS SMITH. UM, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT IN PLACE. UM, AND SO AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO MOVE THAT THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, BE CONTINUED FOR TWO WEEKS TO FEBRUARY 15TH TO HOPEFULLY ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ISSUES. AND, UM, AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO GO OUT AND WALK THE SITE AS WELL WITH YOU. OKAY. UH, TO SEE THAT. SO THE MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE TO FEBRUARY 15TH FOR ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALRIGHT, THERE'S A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. YEAH, JUST TO, TO KIND OF ECHO SOME OF YOUR, UM, SENTIMENTS. UM, BEING A DISTRICT ONE ZONING COMMISSIONER, UM, MEANS THAT I HAVE THE ST. MARY'S STRIP IS PART OF MY AREA. AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN THAT I HAVE PERSONALLY. I LIVE ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE FROM THERE. I CAN HEAR SOUND FROM THERE AT TIMES. SO THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN THAT I WOULD WANT TO SEE ADDRESSED. [02:05:01] UM, I THINK YOUR IDEA IS GREAT AND I GO TO THE STRIP, RIGHT? I, I ENJOY HAVING IT THERE, BUT I DON'T ENJOY NECESSARILY HAVING 1:00 AM ON MONDAY MORNING AT THAT POINT. BEING ABLE TO HEAR THE OUTDOOR SHOWS FROM WHATEVER BAR IS, YOU KNOW, HAVING OUTDOOR. SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT FOR ME WOULD BE A BIG CONCERN JUST FOR THE NEIGHBORS. I I THINK THAT HAVING THE BUSINESS IS PROBABLY A, A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT JUST BEING MINDFUL OF WHAT YOUR IMPACTS ARE ON THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS. YES, MA'AM. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH. COMMISSIONER WHITE. YEAH. UM, I, I I'M GONNA DEFER TO COMMISSIONER, UH, OUR CHAIR AND, AND SUPPORT THE MOTION. BUT, BUT I'LL SAY THAT I, I, I'D BE READY TO SUPPORT THIS, UM, TODAY. I THINK WE ASKED YOU ALL LAST TIME TO GO BACK AND TALK TO NEIGHBORS AND, AND DO A BUNCH MORE WORK ON THIS. UM, I THINK YOU ALL HAVE, HAVE, HAVE DONE THAT IN LARGE PART. UM, COULD YOU WORK ON SOME HOURS HERE? MAYBE? UM, BUT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS I THINK THAT IS NEVER GOING TO, UH, YOU'RE NEVER GONNA HAVE UNANIMOUS SUPPORT ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS. THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE CONCERNS BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS A SUCCESS AND WHETHER OR NOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS GONNA SUPPORT THIS IN THE LONG RUN IS GONNA DEPEND ON HOW YOU OPERATE IT. ABSOLUTELY. SO WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD HEEDED THE COMMISSIONER'S ADVICE AND GO BACK AND DO, UH, SOME MORE WORK AND TALK TO SOME MORE FOLKS AND THINK ABOUT THE HOURS. AND THEN WE WILL SEE YOU BACK HERE IN TWO WEEKS. BUT I, BUT I COMMEND WHAT, WHAT YOU LADIES ARE DOING. UM, I LOVE IT. IT'S TAKING A RISK. IT'S CREATING JOBS OUT THERE FOR FELLOW SAN ANTONIANS. SO, UM, GOOD JOB. AND KEEP AT IT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. ALRIGHT, FURTHER, COMMISSIONER WATSON, UM, I'M GONNA ECHO MY PREVIOUS COMMISSIONERS WITH THE ADDITIONAL POINT THAT IT'S VERY HELPFUL. WE HAVE SOME DOCUMENTED SUPPORT. I COMMEND YOU FOR THE WORK YOU'VE BEEN DOING, DOING NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH, UM, AND WORKING WITH NEIGHBORHOODS TO ECHO, UH, COMMISSIONER WHITE'S, UH, COMMENTS. IT IS DIFFICULT TO GET UNANIMOUS SUPPORT, BUT I DO THINK IT'S GONNA BE BENEFICIAL OVERALL. BUT THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT EXTRA EFFORT AND DEFINITELY CONSIDER THOSE HOURS FOR NEXT TIME. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BOTTLES. UH, MR. CHAIR, IF YOU'RE GONNA WALK WITH THEM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I, I WOULD HIGHLY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT I ALWAYS HEAR FROM NEIGHBORS IS PARKING. SO IF THERE WAS SOME SORT OF ONE PAGE AGREEMENT THAT SAYS WE'RE WORKING WITH SOMEONE IN PARKING AT SUCH AND SUCH LOCATION, YOU KNOW, 300 FEET, 400 FEET, I THINK THAT WOULD REALLY MAKE THIS WHOLE THING, UM, IN TWO WEEKS, UH, BE A POSITIVE, UH, MOTION CLEAR. I'M NOT NECESSARILY GONNA WALK THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I'M WALKING THE SITE . UH, BUT MAYBE, WE'LL, WE'LL CATCH SOME NEIGHBORS. UH, ALRIGHT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER REBUTS. COMMISSIONER TO MY RIGHT. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER WHEAT. I DO WANT TO ECHO, UH, COMMISSIONER GREENHOUSE'S CONCERN ABOUT THE NOISE. I THINK, UM, IT DIDN'T OCCUR TO ME LAST TIME THAT YOU WERE PLANNING TO HAVE OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT AND IF YOU WERE TO HAVE OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT, I BELIEVE THAT NOISE IS GONNA TRAVEL AND THAT IS GOING TO INTERFERE WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS. YES SIR. SO PLEASE GET WITH THE, YOU KNOW, SOUND ENGINEERS AND FIND OUT HOW YOU CAN RESTRICT THAT NOISE TO, AND, AND DO IT WITHIN SOME REASONABLE TIME. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER, WE, UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL DISCUSSION. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THERE BEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION OF A CONTINUANCE. YES. CAN WE JUST GET CONFIRMATION? WAS THE REQUEST AMENDED SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT TO BRING IT BACK AS OH, OH YES. THANK YOU. UM, ALRIGHT. SO THERE WAS AN INDICATION THAT THIS REQUEST HAS BEEN AMENDED TO C TWO C D? YES SIR. WITH THE USE FOR BAR TAVERN? YES, SIR. OKAY. SO YES, THE, UM, THE REQUEST IS AMENDED TO A C TWO CD, UH, WITH THE SPECIFIC USE BEING BAR TAVERN. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. NOW NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. UH, THE MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE TO FEBRUARY 15TH FOR ITEM NUMBER SEVEN BY ME WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. CHAIR BUSTAMONTE AYE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE HAVE BEEN GOING, UH, FOR A LITTLE BIT OVER TWO HOURS AT THIS TIME. UH, WE TYPICALLY TAKE A BREAK NOW, SO WE WILL STAND IN RECESS UNTIL APPROXIMATELY 3 22. THANK YOU ALL. [02:10:02] ALRIGHT, THE TIME IS 3 24. UH, WE ARE BACK IN SESSION AS THE ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AND WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE. IF THAT CAN BE READ INTO THE RECORD PLEASE. HELLO, GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS REBECCA. I'M A PLANNER WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. ITEM NUMBER NINE, LOCATED AT 78 19. PIPER'S CREEK IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C THREE A AND R SIX TO C TO C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. THERE WERE 12 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO POST THE EXISTING C THREE A AND R SIX IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY. THE PROPOSED C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS ALSO NOT APPROPRIATE DUE TO, DUE TO THE PROXIMITY OF AN ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE SUBJECT SITE C THREE. GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS ARE GENERALLY FOUND IN PROXIMITY TO OTHER COMMERCIAL CENTERS AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL USES. STAFF'S ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WILL LIMIT THE INTENSITY OF USES PERMITTED BY RIGHT AND IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF C TWO. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO AMEND THE REQUEST TO C TWO NA PIPER'S PIPER'S MEADOW NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT OF THE AMENDMENT. STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS IN THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. UH, IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT AND IF SO, IF YOU WOULD COME UP, INTRODUCE YOURSELVES, GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS, UH, AND THEN I'M GONNA ASK YOU ONE QUESTION AND THEN YOU CAN TELL US ABOUT SURE. YOUR PROJECT. MY NAME IS PRIMO ARAJO AND I'M REPRESENTING THE OWNER, UH, 5 1 7 HOLLYWOOD PARK, TEXAS 7 8 2 1 2. ALRIGHT, MR. RAHUL, YOU HEARD, UM, THE STAFF SAY THAT YOU WERE AMENDING YOUR APPLICATION TO C TWO NA, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. I AND IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE DOING? YES, WE AGREE WITH THAT. VERY GOOD. PLEASE TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROJECT. UH, THE OWNER PURCHASED THIS, UH, PROPERTY A FEW YEARS AGO AND THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED TO THE DEVELOPMENT. WE NOTICED THAT, UH, HE HAS THE EXISTING, UH, CORNER, UH, BUILDING AND HE WISHED TO ADD TO IT AT THAT, AT THIS TIME WHEN WE DID SOME PRELIMINARY INVESTIGATION, WE NOTICED THAT THE, JUST THE BUILDING ITSELF WAS CLASSIFIED AS C THREE N A AND NOT THE WHOLE THING. AND NOT SURE HOW THAT HAPPENED ALONG THE ROUTE DURING THE PLATY PROCESS. SO, UH, WE DECIDED AFTER LOOKING AT A LOT OF OPTIONS AS TO MAYBE TRY TO ADD TO THE EXISTING BUILDING AND GET, UH, THE ZONING CHANGED TO MATCH THE EXISTING C THREE NA OR C THREE AT THE MOMENT. BUT, UH, WE REALIZED THAT WE KNEW THAT THERE'S A CHURCH NEXT TO IT AND WE DID, UH, MEET WITH THE ASSOCIATION, UH, AND HAD A GOOD TURNOUT THERE. AND, UH, WE DID DISCUSS SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS AND, UH, WITH THE CHURCH THERE, WE, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DID NOT WANT, WE THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD HAVE THAT BUFFER AND WE COULD NOT PUT THOSE KIND OF ESTABLISHMENT THERE. UH, BUT WE WERE NOTIFIED THAT SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE VIABLE. UH, AND SO WE DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND GO WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND GO WITH THE C TWO NA. UH, BUT THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH THAT WE CAN PUT IN THERE BECAUSE OF THE PARKING AND WHATNOT. BUT, UH, HE'S LOOKING AT POSSIBLY DOING SOME TYPE OF JUST GENERAL BUSINESS LIKE A, UH, AN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ACCOUNTING, UH, SOMETHING CONSERVATIVE OF, OF THAT NATURE IN THAT, IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU, MR. RAUL. UH, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT STAFF? NO, SIR. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS IS, UH, DISTRICT SIX, CASE COMMISSIONER HU TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I DO WANT TO THANK THE APPLICANT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOR WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS CASE. UH, WE WERE OUTSIDE. IT WAS PRETTY DARN COLD WHEN WE HAD A MEETING, SO, AND AGAIN, UH, I DO APPRECIATE THE, UH, THE, THE CONVERSATIONS AND THE DISCUSSIONS. AND BEFORE I MOVE TO, UH, APPROVE THIS, UH, APPLICATION, I WANNA OPEN IT UP TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMISSIONERS, UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT, I GUESS. COMMISSIONER SIPES, ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, COMMERS TO MY LEFT. ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE. UH, COMMISSIONER HUE TO YOU FOR, UH, DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION. MR. CHAIR, AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS AMENDED. OKAY. THERE IS A MOTION TO APPROVE AS AMENDED BY COMMISSIONER [02:15:01] HUE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES? ANY DISCUSSION? COMMERS TO MY LEFT. COMMERS TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, SEEING NONE, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED BY COMMISSIONER. WE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. OH, SORRY. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. OH, ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMM FUENTES? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. UM, COMMISSIONER BOTTLES HAS NOT RETURNED. IS HE NOT RETURNING? COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 10, PLEASE. CHAIR, HOLD ON BEFORE WE GO ON. UM, THIS PROPERTY WAS SPLIT ZONE. UM, SO THE PART THAT HE WAS AMENDING, IS THAT JUST THE R SIX PART THAT HE'S AMENDING DOWN TO C TWO CD OR IS IT THE ENTIRE PIECE OF PROPERTY? OH, JUST THE R RESIDENTIAL. JUST THE R JUST THE RESIDENTIAL PART? YES. OKAY. SO THEN THE OTHER, THE OTHER PART IS GOING FROM C THREE NA TO STAY C A TO STAY C THREE AND A. IT'S, IT WAS ALMOST GONNA THAT WAY. . OKAY. ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL MAKE SURE IT'S, UH, FOR C THREE AND A AND C TWO CD C TWO AND A CD C TWO AND CD NOPE. C TWO AND A PERIOD C TWO. I'M SORRY. C TWO AND A OH C TWO AND A NO CD. NO CD. OKAY. SORRY. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. SORRY ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU GUYS. UH, LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 10. IF WE COULD READ ITEM 10 INTO THE RECORD, PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, RICHARD VASQUEZ, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. UM, CASE NUMBER 10 IS LOCATED AT 7 8 2 7 CHAMBERS ROAD AND 7 8 3 1 CHAMBERS ROAD GOING FROM R FIVE WITH ALL RELAYS REMAINING THE SAME TO MF 18, LIMITED DENSITY MULTIFAMILY AND WITH OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. UM, THERE WERE 21 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR, 17 OPPOSED IN THE 200 FOOT RADIUS. 14 OPPOSED OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT RADIUS. AN ONLINE PETITION WITH 2027 OPPOSED, THE DALE DE NOR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED IN THE MOCKINGBIRD HILL HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED. UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE MEDICAL CENTER AREA REGIONAL CENTER PLAN, AND IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED AS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IN THE FUTURE LAND USE COMPONENT OF THE PLAN. THE REQUEST IN THE MF 18 BASED ZONING DISTRICT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE OF THE OF FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND APPLICANT'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. UH, IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. TELL US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US WHY YOU'RE SEEKING THIS REZONING. MY NAME IS FM LEE BALLARD. UM, THIS IS MY FAMILY HOME, BUT I CURRENTLY RESIDE AT 98 11 STRATHAVEN 7 8 2 4 OH. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE BOARD, I WELCOME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU ON BEHALF OF MY FAMILY AND TO, UH, TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, OF THE, OF THE HOME AND TO SHARE WITH YOU, UM, OUR HOPES FOR ITS FUTURE. UM, THIS FAMILY HOME HAS BEEN IN OUR, BEEN IN OUR FAMILY FOR 50 YEARS. UH, MY PARENTS, TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION, UH, WERE PHYSICIANS, COULD YOU SPEAK CLOSER TO THE MIC, PLEASE? THANK YOU. MY, MY PARENTS WERE PHYSICIANS AND MY DAD PURCHASED THIS HOME, UH, SIX YEARS AFTER WE IMMIGRATED TO SAN ANTONIO, AND THEY SPENT THEIR ENTIRE CAREER SERVING THE COMMUNITY OF SAN ANTONIO. UM, MY DAD FELL IN LOVE WITH CHAMBERS ROAD. HE SAID, HE'S ALWAYS SAID HE FELL IN LOVE WITH IT, AND THAT'S QUITE EVIDENT SINCE HE STAYED THERE TILL THE DAY HE DIED IN 2016. UM, BECAUSE I GREW UP IN THIS HOME, I HAVE THE UNIQUE, I'M IN A UNIQUE POSITION TO EXPLAIN TO YOU, UM, WHAT I HAD FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE WITH REGARDS TO THE CHANGES IN THE DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS COMMUNITY OVER THE COURSE OF FIVE DECADES. WHEN I MOVED THERE, UM, IN, IN A, AS A FIFTH GRADER, THERE WAS NOTHING THERE. AND I DID SPEAK WITH THE H O A, UM, AND ALL THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORS. UM, AND I EXPLAINED TO THEM, AND I GAVE THEM INCIDENTALLY ALL THE INFORMATION THAT I'VE GIVEN YOU IN MY APPLICATION, INCLUDING MY LETTER OF INTENT AND A, UH, CURRENT, UM, MASTER PLAN, WHICH I GAVE TO MY POINT OF CONTACT, WHICH WAS THE H O A PRESIDENT. AND I ASKED HER TO DISSEMINATE IT TO ALL, ALL PARTIES. AND WHAT I EXPLAINED TO THEM IN OUR MEETING WAS THAT REALLY, UM, WHEN A PARENT [02:20:01] DIES, YOU DON'T KNOW REALLY WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO. YOU THINK YOU DO, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO. WE AS A FAMILY DIDN'T QUITE KNOW WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WITH CHAMBERS FOR, UM, A LITTLE WHILE AFTER MY DAD PASSED AWAY. BUT WE REALIZED AS A FAMILY, IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO US, WE WANNA KEEP IT AND WE WANNA CAREFULLY, UM, PROTECT IT AND DEVELOP IT OURSELVES. UM, I EXPLAINED TO THE, TO THE NEIGHBORS THAT REALLY THIS, UM, APPLICATION FOR AN MF FROM AN R FIVE TO AN MF IS REALLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF MAINTAINING THE MAIN HOUSE AND KEEPING ALL, HOPEFULLY ALL THE TREES BECAUSE UNDER AN R DESIGNATION, UM, IT WOULD REQUIRE A WIDE CITY PUBLIC ROAD OF 50 FEET OR GREATER. AND I WOULD LOSE MY, MY, MY HOUSE AND A LOT OF THE BEAUTIFUL OAKS IN FRONT OF IT. AND SO, UM, AN MF DESIGNATION IS A LOWER ROAD, UM, I MEAN A, A NARROWER ROAD AND GIVES US, UM, THE DESIGN FLEXIBILITY TO STRATEGICALLY PLACE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT UNITS, UM, AROUND THE TREES WITHOUT SACRIFICING THE TREES. AND SO THAT WAS WHAT MY POINT WAS, I WAS TRYING TO MAKE TO THEM IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE ROAD AND NOT SO MUCH, UM, EVERYTHING ELSE. AND SO, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, UM, USUALLY WHEN YOU HAVE A SITUATION LIKE THIS, THERE'S, THERE'S QUITE, YOU KNOW, USUAL KNEE-JERK REACTION TO THE TERM MULTIFAMILY. AND SO THEY JUST HAVE THIS KNEE-JERK REACTION. THEY THINK, OH MY GOD, MULTIFAMILY. I'M LIKE, NO, NO, NO, THINK ABOUT THE ROAD. UM, BUT THEY STILL HAVE THAT KNEE-JERK REACTION. AND SO, UM, WHAT I WANT TO IMPRESS UPON EVERYBODY, AND I, YOU KNOW, HOPE, TRY TO IMPRESS UPON THEM IS THAT AS IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED, R FIVE 19 UNITS CAN BE PUT ON THAT PROPERTY WITHOUT EVEN AN APPLICATION TO REZONE. MY, UH, SITE PLAN OR MASTER PLAN IS ONLY CALLING FOR 24 UNITS. SO REALLY WHAT WE'RE HERE TODAY FOR IS NOT 24 UNITS, BUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 19 AND 24, WHICH IS FIVE UNITS. SO THIS DISCUSSION PRIMARILY IS ABOUT FIVE UNITS AND NOT 24, BECAUSE WE CAN ALREADY PUT 19 ON THERE WITHOUT AN EVEN AN APPLICATION. SO I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT THE NEIGHBORS TOLD ME IN OUR DISCUSSION. AND ONE OF THEM, OF COURSE WAS WATER DRAINAGE. AND WHAT I EXPLAINED TO THEM IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WATER IS A COMMON ENEMY TO EVERYONE, AND WE ARE, ARE JUST, AS YOU KNOW, OPPOSED TO HAVING WATER ISSUES AS ANYBODY ELSE. BUT I ALSO REMINDED THEM THAT WATER DRAINAGE IS IN THE PURVIEW OF THE STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. AND OF COURSE, WE ARE GONNA BUILD SOMETHING THAT IS, THAT IS TO CODE AND, YOU KNOW, HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY. UM, IT, IT'S ALSO, UM, NOT WITHIN A FLOOD PLAIN AS, AS SHOWN IN MR. UH, VAIS DE VASQUEZ'S REPORT. AND ALSO, I'M NOT SURE I HEARD HIM SAY THAT THERE WAS NO, UH, SUPPORT ACTUALLY THE FIRST, THE FRONT NEIGHBOR IN FRONT OF US, WHICH IS, UM, ACTUALLY NO LOWER IN, UH, THE TOP TOPOGRAPHY. HE'S PART OF THE H OF THE MOCKINGBIRD, H O A ASSOCIATION. HE'S ZONED MF 33 AND HE ACTUALLY SUPPORTS THIS AND SENT A LETTER, WHICH I DID CONVEY TO MR. UM, VASQUEZ THAT HE DOES SUPPORT THIS ZONING, UM, APPLICATION. UM, ANOTHER THING THAT THEY BROUGHT UP WAS SHORT TERM RENTAL. AND WHAT I DON'T, I KIND OF HONESTLY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE, UH, LATER ON IN A VERY SHORT VIDEO I HOPE TO SHOW YOU IS THAT THIS, THIS HOUSE, MY HOME HAS BEEN, UM, COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY HIGH DENSITY APARTMENTS TO OUR LEFT, UH, THE FOREST RIDGE APARTMENTS, ARCOS APARTMENTS, THE MEDIUM DENSITY OF, UH, CONDOMINIUM UNITS OF DEL NOR TO OUR RIGHT COMMERCIALS TO OUR RIGHT TO BEHIND US. MF 33 TO THE FRONT, TO THE CORNER IS A BUSINESS. AND SO WE HAVE BEEN SURROUNDED BY THIS FOR DECADES. AND AGAIN, I REMIND EVERYBODY THAT I, THIS IS MY FAMILY HOME. AND SO WHEN I MOVED THERE IN FIFTH GRADE, DEL NORE WASN'T THERE. I I WAS WITNESS TO ITS CONSTRUCTION. FOREST RIDGE APARTMENTS WASN'T THERE. I WAS WITNESS TO THAT CONSTRUCTION. UM, THE, THE LEGACY OAKS, UH, BUSINESS, UH, TOWER, WHICH IS ON THE CORNER WASN'T THERE. I WITNESSED THAT CONSTRUCTION. TOWER POINT CONDOMINIUMS WASN'T THERE. I WITNESSED THAT CONSTRUCTION SO I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO, UM, AND SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERN FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY WE ARE DROWNING IN LEASED PROPERTY ALL AROUND US. AND I, AND ALSO TO THAT POINT WITH THE BUDGET SUITES IS BEHIND US ABOUT A BLOCK AWAY, WHICH OFFERS WEEKLY RENTAL. AND WHEN YOU EXIT THE MAIN ENTRANCE OF DEL DE NORE CONDOMINIUM UNITS, YOU CAN SEE BUDGET SUITES. UM, RIGHT THERE. ANOTHER ISSUE THAT THEY BROUGHT UP WAS, UM, TRAFFIC. AND SO WHAT, WHAT I EXPLAINED TO THEM IS THAT THE AMOUNT OF UNITS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS SO SMALL THAT IT DOESN'T EVEN RISE TO THE LEVEL OF AN IMPACT. IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A MEASURABLE IMPACT ON, ON THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE CAN DISCUSS LATER WITH, WITH THE ARCHITECTS THAT I HAVE BROUGHT. AND THEN [02:25:01] REALLY THE, THE LAST THING THAT THEY, THEY RAISED TO ME, WHICH I REALLY THINK IS A REAL ISSUE HERE, THE HEART OF THE ISSUE WAS THEIR CONCERN FOR TAXES. AND SO WHAT I SAY TO THEM IS, I HAVE NO, UM, I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER WHAT HAPPENS TO TAXES AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE CONSIDERATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS GETS, UM, THIS GETS APPROVED. SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND, AND ASK HER TO PUT UP TO PLAY THIS, UM, VIDEO. IN FACT, AND SINCE I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME, JUST PUT UP THE, UM, THE, AND SO I I, I HAD A VIDEO, BUT I SEE I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME. AND SO WHAT I WANTED TO SHOW YOU IS, UM, THE MASTER PLAN I HAD, UM, EXPLAIN TO THEM I DIDN'T HAVE TO INCUR THIS EXPENSE, BUT I DID, I MAPPED EVERY SINGLE TREE ON MY PROPERTY AND UM, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO AVOID EVERY SINGLE TREE . I THINK THERE'S ONLY ONE TREE THAT MIGHT BE ENCROACHED UPON. AND I WAS GONNA TELL THE ARCHITECTS WE COULD BUILD, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE PATIO AROUND IT AND SAVE THAT. BUT ALL THOSE DOTS ARE OAK TREES AND I'M GONNA TRY TO SAVE AND YOU CAN SEE THE SITE PLAN, IT AVOIDS ALL THE TREES. AND THIS OTHER THING IS JUST A, UM, OVERVIEW OF THE AREA. THE SQUARED IN IS MY, MY HOME ALL AROUND US IS HIGH DENSITY, UM, MEDIUM DENSITY, COMMERCIAL, EVERYTHING YOU CAN THINK OF AROUND US THAT THAT WAS THERE, UM, AFTER, UH, MY FAMILY MOVED. AND SO I THINK HONESTLY, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THIS PLAN IS WITHIN, UM, THE, THE MEDIUM DENSITY WHICH IS PROPOSED BY THE FUTURE LAND USE MAPS. IT'S WHAT THE CITY WANTS. UM, IT'S WHAT WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE AND IT'S ACTUALLY EVEN LESS THAN MEDIUM DENSITY 'CAUSE WE'RE ONLY PROPOSING 23 UNITS. UM, AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 19 UNITS AND THEIR CONCERNS ON 24 UNITS IS ANY DIFFERENT THAN THEIR CONCERNS ON 19 UNITS. THEY'RE GONNA BE THE SAME CONCERNS. SO WE REALLY ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT FIVE UNITS BECAUSE IT IS ALREADY ZONED R FIVE. AND UM, AND I THINK BECAUSE GIVEN THE DENSITY AROUND US, I THINK TO DENY THIS APPLICATION WOULD ACTUALLY, RESPECTFULLY SPEAKING WOULD BE ARBITRARY AND UNREASONABLE. SO I HOPE THAT THIS, UM, BOARD WILL APPROVE AND UNDERSTAND THAT I'M TAKING GREAT LENGTHS TO DO WHAT I CAN TO PROTECT MY FAMILY LEGACY AND KEEP AND, AND KEEP IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND WITHIN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH I THINK IS OBVIOUS FROM, IF YOU CAN BRING UP THAT OTHER THAN IT'S CLEAR THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU MS. WE BALLARD, UM, STAFF, IS THERE A PUBLIC COMMENT? YES SIR. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. VERY GOOD, THANK YOU. UH, YOU WILL HAVE A SHORT REBUTTAL ONCE EVERYONE'S SPOKEN. OKAY, NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY, DID MY, MY, I HAVE ARCHITECTS HERE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TO, IF WE HAVE, THEY CAN SPEAK WHEN THEY'RE CALLED UP. OKAY. IF THEY'VE SIGNED UP. AND THANK YOU XAVIER GONZALEZ. AND SIR, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT SOME PEOPLE MAY BE YIELDING TIME ON THIS ITEM. SO IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN THE PROCESS JUST YES, IF I COULD REFRESH EVERYONE'S RECOLLECTION. 'CAUSE I'M SURE YOU ALL REMEMBER WHAT WAS SAID AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THIS MEETING. UM, IF YOU INTEND TO SPEAK FOR LONGER THAN THREE MINUTES, TWO PEOPLE CAN GIVE YOU THEIR TIME. UH, SO YOU WOULD GET A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES, BUT THAT HAS TO OCCUR PRIOR TO YOU BEGINNING TO SPEAK. SO SIR, IF YOU ARE SPEAKING FOR THREE MINUTES, YOU MAY BEGIN. IF YOU ARE SPEAKING FOR LONGER, TWO, ONE OR MORE PERSONS WOULD HAVE TO GIVE YOU THEIR TIME. I BELIEVE THAT THAT HAPPENED ALREADY. IT HAS NOT HAPPENED 'CAUSE IT HAS TO HAPPEN RIGHT NOW. ALRIGHT, WELL, UM, SO I DO HAVE, I'M GONNA SPEAK FOR ABOUT SIX MINUTES, MAYBE NOT QUITE SO LONG, BUT IS WHO WANTS TO GIVE TIME TO THIS GENTLEMAN? YES MA'AM. YOUR NAME? FAIRCHILD. OKAY. MONICA ROMO. DEVA. FAIRCHILD CLOSE. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT WAS AMAZING. . ALRIGHT SIR, IF YOU WOULD, GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JAVIER GONZALEZ. I'M THE, UH, PRINCIPAL AND DIRECTOR OF DESIGN OF G R G ARCHITECTURE. I LIVE AT 80, 18 AND 80 10 CHAMBERS. AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK, UH, IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST. UH, FIRST LET ME, LET ME BEGIN BY SAYING, UH, THIS IS A BIT OF HOMECOMING FOR ME. UH, AS SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER, I, I'M A PAST CHAIR OF THE H D R C AND I USED TO SIT RIGHT THERE AND YOU'RE DOING A FINE JOB, UH, CHAIRMAN BUSTAMONTE, UH, AND, AND SO, UM, CERTAINLY HAVE AN APPRECIATION. I ALSO DESIGNED THIS BUILDING IF, DON'T BE MAD AT ME IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT. UM, SO, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE, THE, THE REQUEST, THIS IS A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO COME TOGETHER. IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE AREA, IT'S, IT'S REALLY BEAUTIFUL. UM, I, I'M GONNA OUTLINE, UH, A A BIT OF A, UH, OF ISSUES AND BULLET POINTS AND I, I BELIEVE A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS [02:30:01] WILL BUILD ON THEM. UH, BUT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS GROWN UP OVER TIME AS THE APPLICANT, UH, JUST SO ELOQUENTLY, UH, DEMONSTRATED. AND IT'S GOT A WONDERFUL, UH, BALANCE. AND WE'VE GOT MULTIFAMILY, WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, LARGE PROPERTIES, WE'VE GOT SMALL PROPERTIES, WE'VE GOT CONDOMINIUMS, TOWN HOMES, ET CETERA. UH, AND, AND THE CROWNING JEWEL IS THE DENMAN ESTATE, UH, IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO, TO US HERE. AND WITH THAT, UH, THAT IN MIND, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT GETS DEVELOPED IN THE FUTURE OUGHT TO, UH, COMPLY, UH, WITH THE, UH, WITH, WITH, WITH THE CONTINUITY OF, OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACT. THERE'S A TREMENDOUS ISSUE WITH TRAFFIC. THIS IS A, A WONDERFUL PIECE OF, UH, OF, OF, OF SAN ANTONIO THAT'S SITUATED IN THE MEDICAL CENTER, AND IT GETS, UH, A LOT OF TRAFFIC, PEOPLE CUTTING THROUGH. THEY THINK IT'S A SHORTCUT, AND BOY, THEY, THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. SO YOU IN PARTICULAR WHERE THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS, THERE'S A BIT OF A HILL AND BLIND SPOTS, AND IT'S VERY DANGEROUS, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE HAVING CARS QUEUING OUT INTO THE STREET AND SO FORTH. UH, THERE'S ALSO SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES. UH, THE PROPERTY, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, HAS A, UH, LITTLE BIT OF A POND OR, OR A WETLAND AREA, AND THAT GOES ONTO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY AND IT'S PRETTY, PRETTY SEVERE. UH, MY DAUGHTER'S CAR GOT, UH, BOGGED OUT RIGHT IN THERE WHEN WE HAD A, A HEAVY RAIN, SO I KNOW ALL TOO WELL. UM, IN GENERAL, I THINK THAT THE, THE EXPECTATION OF DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY IS, IS A BIT MISGUIDED AND MAYBE NOT QUITE VETTED EVEN THOUGH SHE'S GOT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME QUALIFIED PROFESSIONALS GUIDING HER. UH, SHE STATES THAT SHE CAN HAVE UP TO 19 HOMES ON THE PROPERTY WITH THE CURRENT ZONING AND UP TO, I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MANY SHE SAID, AND WANTS TO GO FOR 24. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIVE HOMES. WE ARE, WE'RE NOT, ONCE YOU BEGIN TO, UH, FEATHER, FEATHER IN THE LOGIC OF, UH, WANTING TO PRESERVE TREES. SO LET'S GO WITH A HIGHER DENSITY THAT REQUIRES NARROWER ROADS, WHICH WON'T ACCOMMODATE FIRE TRUCKS, EMERGENCY VEHICLES, SIDEWALKS FOR SAFETY AND SO FORTH. UH, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT HER PROPOSED SITE PLAN. SHE IS DODGING, UH, THE TRUNK OF THE TREE, BUT IS WELL WITHIN THE DRIP LINE AND OVER THE ROOT ZONE AND SO FORTH WITH STRUCTURES AND, AND DRIVEWAYS AND WHAT HAVE YOU. SO NOT A REALISTIC IMPLEMENTATION, IMPLEMENTATION OF WHAT WE CONSIDER GOOD PRACTICES FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, CIVIL ENGINEERS, ARCHITECTS, DESIGNERS THAT KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING. UH, THERE IS A DETENTION POND SHOWN, UH, ON THE, THE LOW PART OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH WOULD REALLY BE THE, WHERE YOU WANT THE MOST TREES, WHERE IT BUFFERS FROM THE STREET. THAT AREA, UH, MOST CERTAINLY, UH, YOU KNOW, NEEDS THE TREES, BUT SHE'S SHOWING DETENTION POND THERE AND IT'S ABOUT HALF THE SIZE IT WOULD NEED TO BE AGAIN. UH, I THINK THE SKETCH HE'S PUT UP IS A CURSORY CONCEPT OF HOW MANY UNITS CAN I PACK ONTO THIS PROPERTY. AND SO I THINK WITH A PRACTICAL APPLICATION UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING, YOU MIGHT GET 10 HOMES. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO REALLY MAX PACK IT, UH, YOU CAN MAYBE GET A FEW LESS, UH, CLOSER TO SEVEN. AND SO, UH, WITH THAT, WE ALSO HAVE LOTS OF SAFETY. WE HAVE LOTS OF WALKERS, WE HAVE LOTS OF, UH, UH, WILDLIFE. WE HAVE LOTS OF, UH, ELDERLY PEOPLE, LOTS OF YOUNG FAMILIES WALKING UP AND DOWN. WE DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS EXCEPT FOR IN A SMALL SECTION. AND SO ADDING TO THAT TRAFFIC AND SO FORTH MAKES IT DANGEROUS. UH, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE LOTS OF, UH, LIKE WILDLIFE, LIKE I SAID, LOTS OF DEER AND SO FORTH. UH, PART OF THEIR PROPERTY IS, IS ALMOST A, A, A SHORTCUT FOR ANIMAL, MAKE IT THROUGH WHERE THERE'S BEEN DEVELOPMENT. UH, AND IT'S UNF IT'S REALLY UNFORTUNATE. WE TRIED TO, UH, MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRIED TO MEET WITH THE APPLICANT ONE MORE TIME TO FIND A WIN-WIN SOLUTION. SHE, UH, DECLINED. FEELS LIKE SHE'S ON SOLID GROUND. I BELIEVE. UH, WE, UH, WE DO HAVE IN THE, UH, SA TOMORROW, WHICH I PARTICIPATED IN, AT LEAST AT THE BEGINNING, YOU KNOW, A LAND USE OPPORTUNITY THERE. UH, YEAH, I THINK IT, IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, UH, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S THE BEGINNING, NOT THE END. IT, IT, MEDICAL CENTERS HAVE VERY DIVERSE, UH, SECTOR. AND SO WE ARE GOING TO ADVOCATE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, COMMITTEE AND THROUGH THE COUNCILMAN'S OFFICE TO HAVE A MASTER PLAN FOR EXACTLY HOW DEVELOPMENT OUGHT TO OCCUR IN OUR AREA. AND SO THIS IS A POINT WHERE WE, WE HOPE TO ALL COME TOGETHER. HOPEFULLY, UH, THE COMMISSION DENIES THE REQUEST OR, UH, ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE SO WE CAN GO BACK AND WORK TOGETHER AND FIND A WIN-WIN SOLUTION. UH, SO WITH THAT, CERTAINLY LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, THE, THE DISCUSSION AS IT GOES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. GONZALEZ. CATHERINE MANN. MS. MANN, ARE YOU GONNA SPEAK WITH ANYONE ELSE'S TIME? I'M GOING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. ARE YOU GONNA, DO YOU NEED MORE TIME THAN THREE MINUTES? OH, NO. MISSED IS LESS THAN THREE. YOU VERY GOOD. VERY HAPPY WITH MY RESPONSE. , CAN YOU, IF IT'S LESS THAN THREE MINUTES, WE'RE PROBABLY HAPPY TO, YOU ARE . DID MS. MANN PLEASE PULL YOUR MIC DOWN SO WE CAN ACTUALLY HEAR YOU? OH YES, UH, CERTAINLY. PERFECT. AND IF YOU WANT HERE AND I HOST AS I AM TO PUBLIC SPEAKING, INTRODUCE YOURSELF, TELL US YOUR ADDRESS. MY NAME IS CATHERINE MANN. I LIVE AT [02:35:01] 8,000 DE NORE PLACE NUMBER 50 IN ONE OF THE CONDOMINIUMS NEXT DOOR TO THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY. UH, I ALSO LIVE WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE REQUESTED ZONE CHANGE AND AS OF TODAY, I'VE NOT RECEIVED THE REQUIRED NOTICE FROM THE CITY. THE REASON THAT I KNOW ABOUT THIS IS BECAUSE THE APPLICANT CAME TO ME AS PRESIDENT OF THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION. MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE 2004 AND HAVE ENJOYED THE BENEFITS THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PROVIDES, INCLUDING THE DENMAN ESTATE PARK. THIS IS WHERE I AND OTHER DOG WALKERS AS WELL AS MANY OTHER NEIGHBORS WALK DAILY. DURING THE WEEK OF CHRISTMAS, THE APPLICANT CALLED TO INFORM ME OF HER FAMILY'S PLANS TO DEVELOP THEIR PROPERTY. MY RESPONSE WAS THAT I WOULD TRY TO ARRANGE A MEETING OF VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVES TO MEET WITH HER BECAUSE OF THE INTERVENING HOLIDAYS AS WELL AS COVID OUTBREAKS IN OUR RESPECTIVE FAMILIES. OUR INITIAL ATTEMPTS TO MEET WITH THE APPLICANT WERE DELAYED. WE DID MEET ON JANUARY 10TH. IT WAS DECIDED AFTER SOME DISCUSSION AMONG THE NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVES WHO ATTENDED THAT THE APPLICANT'S EFFORT TO REZONE WOULD BE OPPOSED UNLESS A FURTHER MEETING COULD BE ARRANGED TO REVIEW ANY EXISTING HYDROLOGY OR TRAFFIC STUDIES. ON JANUARY 22ND, I EMAILED THE APPLICANT INVITING HER TO RESUME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HER DEVELOPMENT PLANS. THE APPLICANT THEN REPLIED STATING SHE WOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR FURTHER MEETINGS. MY CONCERNS REGARDING THE REQUEST FOR REZONING REMAIN. FIRSTLY, SAFETY FOR NEIGHBORHOOD CYCLISTS, RUNNERS, AND WALKERS, MANY OF WHOM ARE ELDERLY IS PRIMARY. I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT WATER DRAINAGE AND INTERMITTENT FLOODING ON CHAMBERS ROAD THAT NOW FLOODS DURING HEAVY RAINSTORMS. IF MORE IMP IMPERMEABLE COVER IS ADDED ONTO THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY, RUNOFF AND FLOODING WILL BECOME WORSE. FINALLY, THIS UNIQUE NEIGHBORHOOD ALREADY HAS A HOUSING MIX SERVING A BROAD RANGE OF PEOPLE, MOSTLY SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES WITH SOME CONDOMINIUMS, TOWN HOMES, AND APARTMENTS. PART OF ITS UNIQUENESS IS THE WILDLIFE AND THE PATHWAYS THAT PERMIT DEER AND WILDLIFE TO CIRCULATE THE MORE NORTHERLY PORTION OF THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY, WHICH IS VACANT LOT NUMBER 15 HAS HISTORICALLY SERVED AS A NATURAL DRAINAGE WAY. THIS IS NECESSARY TO AVOID FLOODING OF CONDOS IN OUR H O A AS WELL AS TOWN HOMES IN OAKS NORTHWEST. IT ALSO HAS SERVED AS A NATURE TRAIL FOR THE RESIDENT DEER AND SHOULD BE PRESERVED. I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE BY STRESSING THAT I JOIN THE OVERWHELMING OPPOSITION OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN RESISTING THE APPLICANT'S UNREASONABLE EFFORT TO REZONE OUR NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. MS. MANN. DAVID NOVACEK. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T QUITE CATCH THE NAME. NOVACEK N CHEK, MAYBE. PERFECT. NEK. ALL RIGHT, GOOD POINTS. UM, MY NAME IS DAVID . I LIVE AT 8,000 DE NOR PLACE THE CONDOMINIUMS. UM, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, THE I'VE BEEN ASKED THAT THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE HERE THAT WANTED TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK, BUT THEY GOT HERE TOO LATE OR THEY DECIDED NOT TO. BUT IS THERE ANY WAY I COULD, I COULD ASK THEM TO STAND SO THAT EVERYBODY HERE KNOWS WHO'S SURE. BRIEFLY PART OF IT? ANYBODY THAT'S HERE WITH DE NORE OR ONE OF THE OTHER HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION IN OPPOSITION? YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. IN OPPOSITION. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. UM, WHEN THE STAFF VISITED THE PROPERTY, IT, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY, UH, HOTEL CALIFORNIA STYLE. UH, WHEN THE STAFF VISITED THE PROPERTY, I'M SURE THAT THEY SAW THE GAME TRAIL THAT DISAPPEARS THROUGH THE HOLE IN THE FENCE. THE NEIGHBORHOOD DEER USED THAT TRAIL TO ACCESS ONE OF THEIR SANCTUARIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT SOUNDS NICE. DEER SANCTUARY HOTEL, CALIFORNIA. UM, AND JUST A STONE'S THROW FROM THE MEDICAL CENTER. IT'S IRONIC THAT THE CHILDREN OF THE PREVIOUS OWNER, ONE OF THE PREVIOUS OWNERS, WANTS TO PRESERVE THEIR HERITAGE OF THEIR PARENTS' HOME BY SURROUNDING IT WITH 39 RENTAL UNITS. IT'S NOT ABOUT FIVE UNITS, IT'S ABOUT 39 UNITS IF THE ZONING CHANGE IS APPROVED. WHAT ABOUT PRESERVING THE NEIGHBORHOOD? WE, WE HEARD A LOT. WE HEARD THE, THE APPLICANT TALK ABOUT HOW OUR FAMILY LOVED THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IN HER LETTER TO THE BOARD, THE APPLICANT REFERS TO NEIGHBORING DEL DENORA AS HAVING 100 UNITS. THAT STATEMENT IS FALSE. ACTUALLY, THERE'S CLOSER TO HALF THAT AMOUNT IF YOU INCLUDE THE, THE OAKS TOWN HOMES. OUR NEIGHBOR, THERE ARE 64 [02:40:01] UNITS ON APPROXIMATELY 8.68 ACRES. THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED FOR A HIGHER DENSITY THAN THAT. THE DEVELOPERS DON'T LIVE IN THE AREA NOW. THEY'VE EXPRESSED NO INTEREST IN LIVING THERE. ONCE ITS HERITAGE IS PRESERVED OR REDEVELOPED, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE CHANGED FOREVER. TO BE CLEAR, THE EXISTING ZONING ALLOWS FOR 19 UNITS. THE NEIGHBORS FEEL THAT IS ENOUGH OF A TRIBUTE AND THAT ANY INCREASED DENSITY IS DETRIMENTAL TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THE CITY'S GOAL, BECAUSE THE NEIGHBOR, THE PROPERTY IS ALREADY COMPROMISED. IF YOU SEE THE WOODED AREA ON THE, ON THE AREA ON THE AERIAL THAT THEY HAD UP THERE EARLIER ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, THE DEER SANCTUARY, IT'S ACTUALLY A DRAINAGE DITCH. IT'S A NATURAL TOPOGRAPHIC FEATURE THAT HANDLES ALL OF THE STORM WATER FROM THE NEIGHBORING DEVELOPMENTS. IT'S ALSO OF INTEREST TO THE CITY AS IT LIES IN ONE OF THE FEW MANDATORY DETENTION CENTERS AROUND THE, OR DETENTION AREAS, DETENTION CENTERS, , I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM. UM, AROUND THE CITY. MANDATORY MEANS THAT DEVELOPERS WISHING TO BUILD IMPERVIOUS COVER CANNOT BUY THEIR WAY OUT OF REMEDIATION. LIKE SOME OF THE AREAS THEY MUST PREPARE. ENGINEERING STUDIES BUILD DETENTION PONDS 'CAUSE THESE DETENTION PONDS ARE COLLECTED, UH, COLLECT WATER FROM ADJOINING EASEMENT. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. THAT IS YOUR TIME. ALRIGHT. TERRY, TOM MOORE. HELLO, MY NAME IS TERRY TOM YORE AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE OAKS TOWN HOMES, WHICH IS ONE OF THE ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPOSED, UH, PROPERTY CHANGE. UM, I WANTED TO JUST REAL QUICKLY SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS. COLLECTIVELY, WE HAVE 11 UNITS, UH, WITHIN OUR DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE PROBABLY THE MOST DIRECTLY IMPACTED BECAUSE WE ABUT THE PROPERTY. UM, IN ADDITION, AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, IF YOU'LL SLIDE BACK UP ON THE SLIDE, I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE OR RE-POINT OUT, CAN YOU CONTINUE UP A LITTLE BIT MORE? KEEP GOING, KEEP GOING. IT'S FIRST SLIDE. OKAY. THERE'S ONE WHERE IT KIND OF SHOWS, UM, AN AERIAL VIEW SHOWING THE DRAINAGE OF THE SECONDARY PROPERTY. UM, OKAY. ANYWAY, IF IT'S, IT'S KIND OF A MISREPRESENTATION BECAUSE WHEN OUR PROPERTY, WHICH ADJOINS THAT, THAT THE ONE FARTHEST TO OF THE RIGHT PROBABLY AND FROM HER MAP, I THINK THAT'S WHERE SHE'S INDICATING THE ADDITIONAL FIVE UNITS WOULD BE. IF THERE WAS A TOPOGRAPHICAL OVERLAY, UM, TO THAT PARTICULAR MAP, YOU WOULD SEE THAT THAT IS COMPLETELY THE DRAINAGE THAT, UM, TAKES ALL OF THE WATERSHED FROM NOT ONLY DEL DE NOR, BUT THE OAKS AS WELL AS ALL OF THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS AT THE TOP OF DEL DE NOR STREET, WHICH IS THE OPPOSITE END. UM, SO REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT, I GUESS THIS CHANGE IS APPROVED, SUBSTANTIAL HYDROLOGY WORK WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE IN ORDER TO HANDLE THAT LEVEL OF WATERSHED THAT'S COMING OFF OF THERE. UM, IN ADDITION, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENTS ARE EXPECTED TO, UM, HAPPEN FOR CHAMBERS, UH, SOMETIME IN 2024. UM, AND UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A DRAINAGE MASTER DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT PLAN AT THAT PARTICULAR POINT, AS WELL AS WIDENING THE STREET BECAUSE AS IT STANDS NOW, ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC FLOW TO THAT AREA, UH, IS UM, IS, YOU KNOW, HIGHLY AT RISK. UM, EVEN WITH SCHOOL BUSES COME THROUGH THERE, IT'S DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO MEET OTHER CARS AND, AND CHILDREN WALKING, YOU KNOW, TO CATCH THE BUS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS. IN LOOKING AT HER PLAN, I DIDN'T SEE SIDEWALKS, UM, PROPOSED. AND IT DID APPEAR THAT THERE WOULD BE LIMITED PARKING AS WELL, WHICH WOULD KIND OF FORCE SOME STREET PARKING. AND AS I MENTIONED, THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS, THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL PARKING AREA. THERE IS WITHIN THE DEL NORE COMMUNITY, THEY HAVE SOME STREET PARKING, UH, FORMALIZED. SO THOSE ARE A FEW OF THE TOPICS THAT WE WANTED TO, UM, BRING UP. AND FINALLY, OR ONE OF THE OTHER ITEMS I WANTED TO MENTION, UM, AND I THINK MRS. MANN ALSO MENTIONED INADEQUATE NOTICE. UM, MOST OF OUR PROPERTY OWNERS JUST RECEIVED, UH, THEIR NOTIFICATION. UH, MINE WAS ACTUALLY DATED JANUARY THE 21ST, YOU KNOW, NOT EVEN GIVING 30 DAYS. SO WHAT REP, WHAT'S REPRESENTED HERE TODAY IS A CULMINATION OF PEOPLE. [02:45:01] UM, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE WEREN'T ABLE TO ATTEND AND VOICE PERSONALLY THEIR OPPOSITION BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE SUFFICIENT NOTICE. SO, THANK YOU MA'AM. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. KEITH FAIRCHILD, UH, KEITH FAIRCHILD, 8,000 NO PLACE. UH, UNIT NUMBER 65. UM, THE POPULATION'S GOING TO GROW, THE DENSITY'S GOING TO GO UP, YOU KNOW, IN, IN HER STATEMENT, UH, SHE MENTIONED ACROSS THE STREET FROM 'EM THERE ON CHAMBERS, UH, THERE, THERE WAS SOME, UH, SOME LAND AND IT SHOWED ON ONE OF THE PICTURES. IT'S ALREADY RATED MF 33. WHAT SHE DOESN'T TELL YOU IS IF YOU GO DOWN DE NORE, WHICH IS ONE SIDE AND CHAMBERS THE OTHER TOWARDS, UH, TUPELO, UH, THE, THE EAST SIDE OF TUPELO. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE LOTS IS ZONED. M M F. YEAH, 33. UH, THAT'S GONNA BE, THAT'S GONNA BE DEVELOPED AT SOME POINT. RIGHT NOW THEY'VE GOT NICE HOUSES ON BEAUTIFUL LOTS AND EVERYTHING, BUT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA STOP THE, THE DENSITY INCREASE PERIOD. AND I'VE SEEN IT GOING ON FOR 40 YEARS IN THE MEDICAL AREA. 25 YEARS AGO, I ACTUALLY DID SOME ANALYSIS BECAUSE THEY WERE PROPOSING A RAILROAD LINE FROM WHAT WAS THEN THE WHA QUARRY DOWNTOWN AS A WAY OF EASING STRESS ON THE MEDICAL CENTER. IT'S FIVE MILES AWAY OR LIGHT RAIL UP FREDERICKSBURG. OF COURSE, THEY DIDN'T DO ANY, THEY DID WIDEN FREDERICKSBURG GOOD, BUT THEY'RE STILL BUILDING IN THE MEDICAL CENTER. THEY'RE STILL DEVELOPING MORE CONCENTRATED HERE. I LIKE THE, THE ZONING NOW, UH, I THINK SHE CAN, CAN TURN THE TWO ACRES INTO A BEAUTIFUL PLACE UNDER THE R FIVE ZONING. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU MR. FAIRCHILD. WARREN YOUNG. AND IF I COULD PLEASE ASK YOU GUYS TO ADJUST THE MICROPHONE TO YOUR HEIGHT PLEASE, SO WE CAN HEAR YOU. I'M A FORMER BASKETBALL COACH. I THINK YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO HEAR ME ANYWAYS. UM, BUT I WILL ADJUST IT BECAUSE YOU, YOU GUYS MAKE THE RULES. UH, MY NAME IS WARREN YOUNG. UH, I LIVE AT 78 10 MOCKINGBIRD LANE. I'M CURRENTLY THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE MOCKINGBIRD HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND I'M REPRESENTING THEM AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORS AS WELL. UH, AND I NEED MY READERS, I I'M COMING OUT RESPECTFULLY IN OPPOSITION OF, OF THIS, UM, FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED, BUT ONE THAT'S VERY DEAR TO MY HEART. OKAY. THE FAMILY I LIVE IN, MY FAMILY HOME. MY GREAT-GRANDFATHER, JOHN D. WHEELER, BUILT THAT HOME IN 1939. WHAT, CAN YOU BRING UP THE PICTURE WITH THE OVERVIEW OF THE ALL THE TREES? WE WERE THE THIRD FAMILY OUT THERE, THE DIMS UH, IN 1936, THE TIPS IN 1929, THAT'S ACTUALLY THE PROPERTY. SHE'S SAYING. THE GENTLEMAN ACTUALLY SIGNED IN FAVOR, UH, MR. RAN BAR WHO HAS HIS IS ALREADY MF 33. WELL, HE'S ALSO CHOPPED DOWN A WHOLE BUNCH OF OAKS. SO I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S A PERSON YOU REALLY WANT ON YOUR SIDE. UH, THIS IS, CAN YOU SHOW UP THE ONE THAT YOU GUYS HAD? THIS IS THE ONE SHE GAVE YOU, WHICH IS KIND OF SKEWED BECAUSE IT'S MOVING UP TOWARDS THE MEDICAL CENTER. CAN YOU BRING UP THE ONE YOU ALL HAVE THAT'S MORE OF THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD. MY HOME WAS BUILT BY, UH, WAS BUILT BY AN ARCHITECT AT LEE B IERS. MANY OF YOU GUYS KNOW THEM. SO WAS THE DIM ESTATE. SO WAS THE TIPS BUILDING. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PRESERVE IS CHAMBERS, TUPELO, MOCKINGBIRD HILL, PLEASURE HILL. AND WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE ENCROACHMENT OF OVERDEVELOPMENT. WHEN MR. GILBERT DENMAN PASSED AWAY IN 2004, I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE OUT THERE TO SAY NO WHEN THEY WANTED TO BUILD 170 TOWN HOMES. WHEN WE'VE GOT A NEIGHBORHOOD TOGETHER AND A COMPROMISE HAS BEEN TO DENMAN PARK, WE WANT TO, WE WANTED TO COMPROMISE. WE TRIED TO REACH OUT. WE FEEL STRONGLY THAT SHE CAN UNDER THE CURRENT BUILDING R FIVE OR CODE R FIVE, THAT SHE CAN DO SOMETHING REALLY NICE FOR HER FAMILY. BUT MF M F 18, ONCE IT'S REZONED, IT'S REZONED, SHE CAN DO WHATEVER SHE WANTS UP TO 39 [02:50:01] UNITS IS WHAT THE GENTLEMAN WAS TALKING ABOUT. SO WE'RE, I'M JUST RESPECTFULLY ASKING Y'ALL TO CONSIDER WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR VOTE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PRESERVE HERE IS A LITTLE ENCLAVE OF A COMMUNITY WITH COUNTRY ROADS WITH A BEAUTIFUL PARK. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO TELL HER NOT TO DEVELOP, WE WE'RE NOT TRYING TO STAND IN HER WAY, BUT LET'S JUST DO IT RESPONSIBLY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. YOUNG JOSE ADA. MY FOOT WENT TO SLEEP AND , SO, SO I'LL BE CHECKING IT OFF. SO I, I'M THE ARCHITECT WORKING WITH, UH, MAY BALLARD AND THEIR FAMILY DEVELOPING THIS SITE. SO PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE. MY, MY NAME IS JOSE ALDA. I WORK WITH ARCHITECT TWO SA. MY ADDRESS IS 1 7 0 3 8 REDLAND ROAD, SUITE 107 8 2 4 7. SO, UH, MAINLY TO CLEAR, WE DEVELOP A PRELIMINARY SIDE PLAN, SCHEMATIC SIDE PLAN OF WHAT THE INTENTION IS OF DOING DEVELOPING IN HERE. WE HAVE INCLUDED IN TERMS OF DRAINAGE, UH, AN ESTIMATED, UH, DRAINAGE, UH, DETENTION BASING THAT WILL BE PROPERLY SIZED BY THE CIVIL ENGINEERS ONCE THEY GET HIRED. SO IT MAY GROW, IT MAY NOT. DEPENDS ON THE DEPTH, THE DEPTH DEPENDS, ESTABLISHES THE SIZE OF, WE INTEND TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF DRAINAGE, IN TERMS OF STREETS AND SO ON. WE INTEND TO COMPLY WITH THE LANDSCAPE ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. WE INTEND TO, UM, THE OWNER INTENDS TO ALSO PRESERVE AS MANY TREES AS WE HAVE TO. IF WE HAVE TO SHRINK THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING, THEN THE SHRINK, THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HAS TO BE SHRINK. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO WORK OUT WITHIN THE LANDSCAPING, THE TREE PRESERVATION AND SO ON. THE CITY IS GONNA REQUIRE SIDEWALK. THERE'S NO SIDEWALK AS THEY MENTIONED. THERE IS NO SIDEWALK ON CHAMBERS ON THE, ON THE, ON THAT, UH, THE CITY WILL REQUIRE THAT. SO THERE WILL BE A SIDEWALK, UH, MANDATED BY THE CITY. UM, AS YOU KNOW, UM, IT IS THE, THE INTENT. UNFORTUNATELY WE REQUEST AN MF 18 BECAUSE THERE IS NO MF 12. IF THERE WAS AN MF 12, WE WOULD REQUIRE AN AN MF MF 12. UH, SO IF, IF YOU GUYS WANNA SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I WANNA RESTRICT THE 24 UNITS, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT WITH THE OWNER, THAT SHE HAS NO INTENTIONS OF PASSING OVER THAT NUMBER. THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT SHE'S INTERESTED. AND IT IS, IT'S WHAT WE WORKED OUT THAT WE FEEL THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO PRESERVE THE TREES ONCE WE GET INTO THE FINAL DESIGNS OF THIS UNIT AND SO ON. WE MAY END UP WITH LESS THAN THAN 24, WHO KNOWS. BUT RIGHT NOW, THAT'S THE MAXIMUM SHE CAN FORESEE HAVING IN THERE. AND THE MAXIMUM WE TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC. UM, CIVIL ENGINEER GETS ENGAGED. SHE SAYS YOU DON'T MEET THE MINIMUM THRESHOLD OF A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. ONE AND A HALF CARS PER UNIT IS 37 CARS. THAT'S ALL YOU GOT 37 CARS TO SPEAK WITH. UH, SO AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE TRAFFIC ON 37 CARS IS NO BIG DEAL. NOW IF WE LOOK AT THE AERIAL, LET'S LOOK AT THE AERIAL A SECOND. THIS PROPERTY SURROUNDED BY ROOFTOPS, NOT TO MENTION THE ROOFTOP THAT ARE FIXING TO COME IN THE FRONT, WHICH ON THE MF 33, BUT YOU GOT ROOFTOPS ALL AROUND US, WE NOT HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF HAVING THAT MANY ROOFTOPS OR THAT MANY PARKING. UH, CAN WE GO BACK TO THE SIDE PLAN? OH, I'M OUT OF TIME. BUT ANYWAY, IN THE SIDE PLAN, YEAH, YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE TREES AND, UH, THAT THE EXISTING HOUSE AND SO ON. SO I'M OUT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. BYE NOW. THANK YOU MR. SALA. I HOPE, HOPE YOUR FOOT'S BACK AWAKE. FM O BALLARD, THAT'S THE APPLICANT. SO WE'RE GOOD. UM, AND MARY LOU GONZALEZ, MS. GONZALEZ, MARY LOU GONZALEZ. OH, YOU'LL HAVE YOUR CHANCE TO REBUT IN A SECOND. ME? NOPE, NOT YET. UH, MARY LOU GONZALEZ, ARE YOU PRESENT? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU THOUGH. THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. GONZALEZ. AND NOW WE HAVE FOUR MORE VOICEMAILS. ALRIGHT, LET'S PLAY THE VOICEMAILS PLEASE. THIS IS DOROTHY SUSAN AL OF 78 10 MOCKINGBIRD IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE IN ITEM NUMBER 10. IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO THE MOCKINGBIRD HILL IN DENMAN PARK NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU'VE SEEN HOW IT IS A HAVEN OF RURAL PEACEFULNESS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BUSY MEDICAL CENTER AREA. WE'VE MANAGED TO PRESERVE THIS THROUGH MAINTAINING OUR WILLINGNESS [02:55:01] TO DO THE HARD WORK TO HOLD BACK FORCES OF ENCROACHMENT. AFTER GILBERT DENMAN DIED AND LEFT HIS PROPERTY TO SAN ANTONIO MUSEUM OF ART AND TRINITY UNIVERSITY, THE AGENTS OF HIS ESTATE GAVE AN OPTION TO BUY TO DEVELOPERS WHO PLANNED TO BUILD 170 TOWN HOMES ON IT. WHEN WE LEARNED OF THIS, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZED OUR OPPOSITION UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF MR. YOUNG, WHO IS AT THE MEETING TODAY. IT WAS A LONG STRUGGLE BECAUSE OF OUR PERSISTENCE, HARD WORK AND SOLIDARITY, THE DEVELOPERS GAVE UP THEIR OPTION AND WE APPROACHED THE CITY WITH OUR IDEAS. IT WAS BOTH THE BEAUTY OF THE PROPERTY AND THE COUNTRY. AMBIANCE OF THE SURROUNDINGS THAT CONVINCED THE CITY TO PARTNER WITH U I W TO BUY THE ESTATE AND CREATE DENMAN PARK. A PARK THAT IS ENJOYED BY MANY PEOPLE FROM THROUGHOUT THIS PART OF TOWN. I LIVE ACROSS FROM THE LAKE AND HAVE THE JOY OF WATCHING THROUGHOUT EACH DAY. WALKERS RUNNERS, FAMILIES PUSHING BABY STROLLERS, FAMILY GROUPS WITH CHILDREN SQUEALING WITH DELIGHT AT THE WATER BIRDS, THE RURAL ATMOSPHERE WITH ITS COUNTRY LANES REMAINING HISTORIC HOUSES AND GREAT MATURE OAK COVER IS TIGHTLY SURROUNDED BY BUSINESSES AND APARTMENTS. IT HAS BEEN MAINTAINED WITHIN THE SQUARE, MADE BY MOCKINGBIRD LANE, PLEASANT HILL CHAMBERS AND TUPELO. ANY NEW ENCROACHMENT THREATENS THE CHARACTER OF THE HOLE. THE T INTERSECTION WHERE PLEASANT HILL MEETS CHAMBERS IS CURRENTLY A BEAUTIFUL ENTRY TO THE DENMAN ESTATE AREA. THIS IS PRECISELY WHERE THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS SITUATED. MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT AT THIS PLACE WOULD EAT INTO THIS WHOLE CORNER OF THE SQUARE, THOUGH IT COULD CURRENTLY BE USED FOR A NUMBER OF UNITS, IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE HOW MANY THE M F 18 REQUESTED WOULD ALLOW A MAJOR VISUAL DISRUPTION AND INTRODUCE WAY TOO MUCH NEW TRAFFIC IN AND OUT. THIS WOULD BE UNSAFE AT THAT INTERSECTION IN THE IMMEDIATE, AND ALSO FEED INTO A LARGER TERM THREAT OF STREET WIDENING. IF THESE COUNTRY LANES ARE EVER WIDENED TO ACCOMMODATE INCREASED TRAFFIC, ALL THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES WOULD BE DISFIGURED AND DEVALUED. THE WHOLE SERENE SENSE OF COUNTRY WOULD BE DESTROYED AND THE PARK WOULD LOSE ITS CURRENT CHARM. I HOPE THAT THIS ZONING REQUEST WILL BE DENIED. HELLO, MY NAME IS GENEVIEVE RODRIGUEZ AND I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO THE REZONING OF A PROPERTY 78 27 AND 78 3 1 CHAMBERS ROAD. THE CASE NUMBER IS Z DASH 2021 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 3 3 8. AND MY NAME IS GENEVIEVE RODRIGUEZ AND I RESIDE AT MOCKINGBIRD HILL PROPERTY. I AM A FEDERAL RETIREE AND I AM REQUESTING THAT YOU DENY THE REQUEST TO HAVE IT RESOLVED. I, UM, I AM BOTH MY HUSBAND AND I ARE FEDERAL RETIREES. AND THE REASON I'M ASKING THAT YOU DENY IT IS WE HAVE LIVED ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. WE HAVE LIVED IN THE WASHINGTON DC AREA AND IN MANY PROPERTIES. AND WHEN WE DECIDED TO RETIRE, WE RESEARCHED IN DIFFERENT PLACES AND, UH, WE FOUND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE REASON THAT WE REALLY LIKED, UH, THE, THE AREA AND, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WE ARE JUST WANTING TO KEEP IT THE SAME. WE ARE VERY ACTIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE ARE OFFICERS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. MY HUSBAND IS THE TREASURER AND I'M THE SECRETARY. AND, UM, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE WORK WITH OUR NEIGHBORS TO HAVE THEM MAINTAIN THEIR YARDS. WE HAVE A CITIZEN ON PATROL. WE ARE BOTH, UM, PART OF IT. AND, UM, WE REALLY TAKE PRIDE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. MY HUSBAND HAS SUBMITTED, UM, HIS REASONS, OUR REASONS, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I EXPRESS MINE, THAT IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE MAINTAIN OUR COMMUNITY AND BECAUSE WE TAKE GREAT PRIDE AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE THIS COMMUNITY ARE HOMEOWNERS. WE HAVE VERY, VERY FEW, UM, RENTERS. WE HAVE JUST ABOUT TWO OR THREE AND THAT'S IT. SO IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE OWNERS USUALLY WORK VERY HARD AT MAINTAINING THEIR PROPERTIES AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT OUR NEIGHBORS ARE DOING. SO I [03:00:01] WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD JUST DENY THE REQUEST. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK YOU ALL DO. BYE-BYE. . GOOD MORNING. I JAIME RODRIGUEZ JR. PRESIDENT OF THE MOCKINGBIRD HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, LIVE AT 38 0 1 WEST BURG LANE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO TWO NINE. MY CELL PHONE NUMBER IS TWO TEN FIVE OH ONE SEVEN NINE SEVEN TWO. I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE REFERENCE ZONING CASE Z 2021. 1 0 7 3 3 8 CHANGE REQUEST. THE REQUESTED ZONING CHANGE FOR INCREASED DENSITY WILL HARM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND DECREASE OUR PROPERTY VALUES. SOME, UH, RECENT, UH, OUR TRAFFIC, THIS WILL REDUCE SAFETY. CURRENTLY THERE ARE NO CURBS OR SIDEWALKS ON OUR NARROW ROADS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. A LOT OF OF OUR RESIDENTS IN THE AREA WALK WITH SMALL CHILDREN, WALK THEIR DOGS BIKE JO, BIKE JO, ALONG THE NARROW TREE TREELINE ROAD, ADDING 40 ADDITIONAL HOMES, ADDING INCREASED EATING CARS, TRUCKS AND DELIVERY VEHICLES TO NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS NOT ORIGINALLY, UH, DESIGNED TO HANDLE THE INCREASED TRAFFIC. ALSO, THE TALL STRUCTURES THAT ARE PROPOSED. THE THREE PLANNED STORY BUILDINGS. THIS WILL BLOCK, UM, SUNLIGHT TO A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS THROUGHOUT THE DAY. THEY WILL ALSO HAVE LOTS OF PRIVACY FOR THOSE. UM, PEOPLE THAT EXPECTED TO ENJOY THEIR PRIVATE COURTYARDS OR THEIR PRIVATE GARDENS WHEN THEY PURCHASE THEIR HOME NOW ARE GOING TO BE LOSING THEIR PRIVACY. ANOTHER FACTOR IS WILDLIFE. WE ARE CONCERNED WITH WILDLIFE. WE ARE TRYING TO PRESERVE THE WILDLIFE THAT WE GET TO ENJOY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. BY ADDING MORE TRAFFIC AND DESTROYING MORE WILDLIFE NATURAL PROPERTY, WE ARE PREVENTING THE WILDLIFE FROM LIVING IN THEIR NATURAL HABITAT. UH, FLOODING ISSUES AS WELL. THE EXISTING MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT CAUSED CHAMBERS ROAD TO FLOOD AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WHEN IT RAINS. DECREASING PERMEABLE COVERS VIOLATES THE CITY'S GOALS FOR A REDUCING STORMWATER RUNOFF. 40 NEW HOMES, DRIVEWAYS AND PARKING AND TWO ACRES WILL CERTAINLY ELIMINATE ANY REMAINING PERMEABLE COVER IN AN RE COMPROMISED STORMWATER DRAINAGE AREA. I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THE COMMISSION DENY THE PROPOSAL REQUEST TO INCREASE DENSITY FOR THIS PROPERTY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR HELP. YOU HAVE A GREAT DAY. HELLO, MY NAME IS MICHAEL BERTI AT 38 10 WEST SONGBIRD LANE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 9. UH, 0 3 3 8 IS THE ZONING CASE. LAST FOUR DIGITS OF ZONING CASE. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY TO THE COMMITTEE THAT, UM, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS A UNIQUE, VERY UNIQUE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE CANNOT AFFORD TO HAVE, UH, THIS COMPLEX BUILT ON A SMALL PORTION OF LAND, UH, THAT DOES NOT, WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE THE TRAFFIC FLOW IN OUR AREA. WE HAVE DENMAN PARK BESIDE US AND WE DO HAVE, WE HAVE NOTHING IN THAT AREA THAT IS CONSIDERED TO BE THAT TYPE OF A, UH, FACILITY. UH, IT WILL DETRACT FROM THE WAY THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKS. AND, UH, I THINK PEOPLE THAT ARE FAMILIAR WITH IT, ESPECIALLY THE COUNCILMEN THAT WE HAVE, UH, WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO KEEP THIS NEIGHBORHOOD UNIQUE PART OF SAN ANTONIO AND TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC FLOW AND, UH, TO MAKE THAT PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN BACK OF DENMAN PARK, WHICH IS A, A UNIQUE HISTORICAL SITE, UH, INTO AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, IS JUST NOT CREDIBLE FOR THAT, FOR THAT SECTION OF OUR, UH, COMMUNITY. UH, IT WOULD PUT AN EXTRA BURDEN ON ALL OF US AND IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY OR, UH, OUR CITIZENS OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, THAT SHE'S ASKED ASKING FOR SOMETHING MUCH MORE, UH, THAN SHE IS CAPABLE OF THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY. UM, I'M SURE THE COMMITTEE OR MOCKING HILL'S NEIGHBORS ASSOCIATION HAS TALKED TO YOU, UH, ABOUT POSSIBLY NEGOTIATING WITH THEM ON SOMETHING. BUT TO KEEP THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD INTACT, WHICH IS A VERY, VERY UNIQUE CHARACTER, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS DOES NOT GO THROUGH AND WE CAN NEGOTIATE WITH THIS PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL TO MAKE SURE IT FITS OUR NEEDS. ALSO, [03:05:01] BECAUSE THIS IS A TWO PARTY SYSTEM, UM, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT WHAT SHE WANTS AND, UH, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD VALUE WILL GO DOWN SUBSTANTIALLY. PLEASE PLAY THIS AT THE MEETING. SO, UM, UH, COUNCILMEN ARE ON NOTICE THAT, YOU KNOW WE, THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO US AND TO HAVE THIS ZONE LIKE THIS IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE, SIR. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, MS. WE BALLARD. UH, BRIEF REBUTTAL PLEASE. WELL, HOPEFULLY SHE CAN FIND IT. UM, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS, I DON'T WANNA WASTE A LOT OF TIME ON, UH, MS. ANN'S COMMENTS REGARDING MY, UM, IN MY UNWILLINGNESS TO MEET AGAIN. UM, I DID CALL HER, UH, UM, WEEKS BEFORE THE MEETING AND IT WAS AT THEIR SCHEDULE. I SAID I WAS AT, THEY SET THE SCHEDULE AND THEN SHE CALLED ME BACK AND SAID, OKAY, NOW WE WANT TO TALK AGAIN. THESE ARE THE DATES. I COULDN'T MAKE THOSE DATES. SO I DO WANNA, UM, IMPRESS ON EVERYBODY THAT, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM, UM, THE OTHER MAP THAT I HAD BEFORE, MY HOME IS NOT ON THE FRINGE OF ANYTHING. WE ARE NOT HOLDING BACK, UM, ANY DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT ALREADY. WE ARE NOT IN THE FRINGE. UM, WE ARE GONNA HAVE GARAGES. THAT WAS ANOTHER THING. I'M JUST GONNA RUN DOWN ALL THE ANSWERS. UM, WE ARE GONNA HAVE CLASS A CONSTRUCTION. THESE ARE NOT GONNA BE, UM, UGLY HOMES. THESE ARE GONNA BE VERY, VERY, UM, BEAUTIFUL. UM, I LIVE FOUR MILES AWAY FROM HERE. I VISITED ALL, ALL THE TIME. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH REGARDS TO THE DEER. THE DEER, UM, HAD THE ENTIRE DENMAN ESTATE PARK AND WHEN MY MOM WAS ALIVE, WE KEPT THE DEER OUT ANYWAY 'CAUSE SHE HAD A GARDEN. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY SAY IT'S A NATURAL PRESERVE. IT'S JUST ONLY BEEN RECENTLY THAT WE ALLOWED THE DEER IN BECAUSE MY MOM, MY MOM DOESN'T HAVE A GARDEN ANYMORE. BUT BEFORE THAT, WE KEPT THEM OUT. UM, ALSO, UM, MISS, WHAT I WANT YOU TO NOTE IS THAT PRACTICALLY EVERYBODY SITTING BEHIND ME AND STANDING IN OPPOSITION LIVE IN HIGHER DENSITY COMMUNITIES. UH, MR. WARREN, THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S THE BASKETBALL, UM, COACH STOOD UP HERE AND HE TALKED ABOUT HIS BEAUTIFUL HOUSE, WHICH IS BEAUTIFUL, BUT IT'S ALMOST A BLOCK AWAY. AND HIS HOUSE FACES DENMAN ESTATE PARK. MY HOUSE DOES NOT FACE DENMAN ESTATE PARK. WE ARE SURROUNDED ON ALL FOUR SIDES BY HIGH DENSITY, MEDIUM DENSITY, OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. HE IS NOT, HE FACES DUNMAN STATE PARK. UM, ALSO I THINK THAT, UM, I NEED TO READ FROM THIS MEDICAL CENTER AREA, REGIONAL CENTER PLAN, PAGE 54, WHERE MOCKING BIRD, H O A DID PARTICIPATE IN CREATING THIS PLAN. AND IT SAID THE PRIORITIES, THE FEEDBACK RECEIVED, AND THEY GAVE PRIORITIES AND IT SAYS PRIORITY NUMBER THREE, PROVIDE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES AND AFFORDABILITY THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES WITH VARIOUS DENSITIES AND INCREASED ACCEPTANCE OF HOUSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS. TO OUR LEFT IS THE, UM, FOREST RIDGE APARTMENTS AND THEY HAVE A DENSITY OF 117 AND THEIR HIGHEST RENT IS $800. NEXT TO THEM IS ARCOS APARTMENTS. THEY HAVE A, I THINK IT'S ONE 12 AND 1 17, 1 OF THE TWO. AND THEY HAVE THEIR HIGHEST RENT IS A LITTLE OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS. NEXT TO US IS DEMAN ESTATE CONDOMINIUMS. THEY'RE LUXURY CONDOMINIUMS. THEY HAVE THE MOST IMPERVIOUS COVER. THEY DON'T HAVE A DETENTION PONDS YET. THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT I'M GONNA DO. UM, AND SO THEY ARE LUXURY APARTMENTS. WE WILL OFFER THAT OTHER KIND OF AFFORDABILITY OR, UM, OR, UH, YOU KNOW, PLAN THAT'S KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH MA'AM. ALRIGHT. UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT EIGHT CASE, UH, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. UM, I DO ACTUALLY, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT, IF YOU WANT TO, SORRY, IF YOU CAN JUST COME BACK, I'M GONNA HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS JUST SO WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF YOU CAN MAYBE ADDRESS, SINCE EVERYBODY'S HERE, JUST REGARDING YOUR CONCRETE PLAN REGARDING, UM, FLOODING TRAFFIC AND TREE PRESERVATION. [03:10:02] WE ARE GONNA TRY TO PRESERVE ALL THE TREES, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT'S MY GOAL. WHEN I TALKED TO THE ARCHITECT, WHEN I WENT LOOKING FOR AN ARCHITECT, THAT'S THE FIRST THING I SAID, I WANNA, I WANNA SAVE MY TREES AND SAVE MY HOUSE. CAN YOU DO IT? AND HE SAID YES, AND HE'S GONNA TRY TO DO IT IN THE SITE PLANT, ALTHOUGH THEY DON'T BELIEVE IT. ALL OF THOSE TREES ARE ALREADY MARKED, UM, WITH A G P S OR WHATEVER. AND SO THAT, THAT SITE MAP IS, IS ACCURATE TO WHERE THE TREES ARE. ALL THOSE DOTS ARE WHERE THE TREES ARE. THAT WAS MY PRIMARY OBJECTIVE TO PRESERVE THE TREES AND MY HOUSE. I WANNA KEEP MY HOUSE IF I CAN. THE R FIVE IS SO WIDE, IT'S A 50 FOOT WIDE ROAD, PLUS SETBACKS IS ANOTHER 60 OR 70 FEET. I'M GONNA LOSE TREES AND I'M PROBABLY GONNA LOSE MY HOUSE. AND I TOLD THEM THAT IT'S ABOUT ME KEEPING MY HOUSE IN TREES. THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE DEER, BUT IT'S, IT'S GONNA TAKE AWAY FROM, UM, THE NATURAL BEAUTY OF THE HOUSE, THE TREES. UM, AND SO WE ARE GONNA HAVE GARAGES, UM, AS FAR, AND, AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, AND I'M JUST SPEAKING AGAIN FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED THE KIND OF FLOODING THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE DESCRIBING. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A TIME OUR OR ANY, ANY, UM, ANY OF MY CARS HAVE EVER BEEN BOGGED DOWN, EXITING CHAMBERS. ALSO, UM, IF YOU CAN SHOW THE, UM, THERE WAS ANOTHER TOWARDS, OH, MY VIDEO I WAS GONNA EXPLAIN ALSO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WHEN IT COMES TO TRAFFIC, DEON ESTATE PARK IS A PUBLIC PARK THAT SERVES THIS, THIS ENTIRE CITY. THE, THE PARKING LOT FOR DEON ESTATE PARK IS ON PLEASURE HILL DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF ONE OF THE RESIDENTS HERE. AND I HAVE A PICTURE OF IT TOWARDS THE END. AND SO AT ANY GIVEN TIME, DEON ESTATE PARK CAN HAVE A WEDDING, CAN HAVE WHATEVER, AND, AND SO THE ENTIRE CITY IS, CAN GO TO DE STATE PARK. THE TRAFFIC HAS NOTHING TO DO REALLY WITH 24 EXTRA HOMES. BUT THE FACT THAT IT'S SITUATED, IT'S GOT A, A PUBLIC PARK THAT'S VERY POPULAR. I MEAN, IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA BE, THERE'S GONNA BE TRAFFIC. AND I HAVE A PICTURE IF I CAN FIND IT, OF HOW FULL THAT, UH, OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE STATE PARKING, WHERE IT'S THE PARKING LOT WHERE IT'S SITUATED. AND AGAIN, ONCE AGAIN, WE ARE NOT HOLDING BACK, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPMENT, THE DEVELOPMENTS ALREADY ENVELOPED ME. WE, WE ARE NOT ON THE FRINGE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE FROM SONGBIRD, THEY LIVE WAY DOWN THE STREET FROM PLEASURE HILL. I RARELY GO PAST SONGBIRD. SO , THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. I BELIEVE THE QUESTION WAS ABOUT FLOODING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I ACTUALLY HAVE NO MORE QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT QUESTIONS. UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE , DON'T AVOID ME. . UM, I ACTUALLY JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF REALLY QUICKLY. JUST TO CONFIRM, UM, WITH THE CURRENT ZONING, THE NUMBER OF UNITS WE COULD HAVE VERSUS THE PROPOSED ZONING NUMBER OF UNITS WE COULD HAVE JUST WITH LIKE A CONFIRMATION ON THAT. AND WHILE WE WAIT FOR THAT ANSWER, UH, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT AT 4 27, COMMISSIONER WHITE LEFT THE MEETING. UH, I'M SORRY, CAN YOU PLEASE REPEAT YOUR QUESTION? I WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND IT. SURE, THAT'S FINE. SO THE NUMBER OF UNITS OR DWELLINGS WE COULD HAVE WITH THE CURRENT ZONING VERSUS THE NUMBER WE COULD HAVE WITH THE PROPOSED ZONING. OKAY, SURE. 19 IS WHAT THE R FIVE ALLOWS AND 41 IS WHAT THE MF 18 WOULD ALLOW. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF WE COULD STAY QUIET PLEASE. UH, I'D APPRECIATE IT. UH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT QUESTIONS? THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. ON MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER SIPES. ACTUALLY THERE'S A QUESTION FOR STAFF FIRST. SORRY, , SORRY, I'LL THINK OF ONE FOR YOU TOO, I GUESS. UM, SO KIND, I KNOW , UH, QUESTION FOR STAFF, UH, THERE WAS MENTIONED, YES, WE DON'T HAVE A MF 12. IS THERE A METHOD TO LIMIT THE NUMBER, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS? OR IS IT, I I AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT YES, 41 WOULD BE IN THE ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM, BUT ONCE YOU TAKE OUT FOR STREETS AND OTHER IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS THE DETENTION BONDS, THAT IT'S NOT GONNA BE 41. BUT IS THERE A WAY TO ACTUALLY PROPOSE A LIMIT OR PUT A LIMIT ON THEM NOT THROUGH A ZONING MECHANISM? UH, THEY COULD USE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS. OKAY. OKAY. DEEDED RESTRICTIONS. YES. UM, AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION IS, UH, REGARDING DRAINAGE, UM, THE CITY CODE DOES NOT ANY LONGER [03:15:01] ALLOW FOR A DEVELOPMENT TO ADD TO THE, THE DRAINAGE ISSUES, UH, SURROUNDING IT, CORRECT? YEAH, THAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN STATE LAW FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. BUT YEAH, I, I GUESS ONE OF MY POINTS IS THAT I, FOR MANY YEARS, BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE OF US WHO LIVE IN OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS KNOW THAT THAT'S LIKE, WASN'T THE CASE WAY BACK WHEN OUR HOUSES WERE BUILT. UM, I THINK FOR RIGHT NOW, THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. OH, OH, I DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. YES, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. I KNEW IF I DELAYED LONG ENOUGH I'D IT'D COME TO ME. UM, WENT HEIGHT OF THE APARTMENTS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO? OH, THAT'S GOOD QUESTION. THEY'RE ONLY GONNA BE TWO STORY AND ONE STORY. I DON'T KNOW WHERE SOMEBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT HIGH, SOMEBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT HIGH STORY. THEY'RE ONLY GONNA BE TOWN HOMES, UM, THAT ARE TWO STORY AND SOME MIXTURE WITH ONE STORY. IT'S WHATEVER, WHATEVER THE TREES LET US DO IS WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO. IT'S NOT GONNA BE WHAT, WHAT I DON'T, THE, THE THOUGHT THAT I HEAR, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE COMING UP WITH THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY THINK IT'S GONNA BE UGLY APARTMENTS OR SOMETHING. AND, AND I DO WANNA SAY THAT THE, THE DEL NOR THERE'S ONLY TWO OR THREE, UM, PART, UH, UNITS THAT ACTUALLY ABUT OUR EAST, OUR EAST BOUNDARY. BUT NO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT STARING INTO THEIR COURTYARD. IT'S, THEY'RE GONNA BE ONE STORY AND TWO STORY THAT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THAT'S, THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SIPES. COMMISSIONER HUE, ANY QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL QUESTIONS? UH, UH, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. I, I'M JUST TRYING TO BE SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR PROJECT. AND SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU PLAN ON RESIDING STILL ON THE PROPERTY, BUT YOU STILL WANNA DEVELOP, UH, RENTABLE TOWN HOMES. IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? I WELL, I'M, I DON'T RESIDE ON THE PROPERTY, BUT WE ARE GOING TO MAKE 24 UNITS AND THEY'RE ALL GONNA BE FOUR LEASE. SO WHAT, WHAT HA IS HAPPENING TO YOUR FAMILY HOME THAT YOU WERE MENTIONING? I'M GOING TO RENOVATE IT AND I'M GONNA ALSO LEASE IT. OKAY. AND SO STAFF DOES THE, OKAY, THANK YOU. SO QUESTION FOR STAFF THEN. DOES THAT MEAN THAT SHE CAN ONLY ADD 23 UNITS IF THERE'S AN EXISTING PROPERTY? UH, I MEAN SHE, THERE'S THE, IF IT, IT GETS REZONED TO MF 18, SHE HAS THE ABILITY TO GO ALL THE WAY UP TO 41 UNITS IF SHE'S GOING TO PROPOSE CORRECT 23 OR 24 UNITS. UH, THE ONLY WAY TO ENSURE THAT WOULD BE THROUGH DEEDED RESTRICTIONS. UH, WE CANNOT PUT A NUMBER ON ZONING AS YOU KNOW. AND SO, UH, I I DON'T KNOW THAT I, I'M ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION, BUT IF THERE'S ALREADY A STRUCTURE THERE AND SHE'S PROPOSING 24, THAT MEANS SHE GETS 23 ADDITIONAL UNITS. OKAY. BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE THAT'S WANNA BE SURE THAT WE WOULD COUNT THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AS ONE NO MATTER WHICH WAY THIS GOES. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. UM, OKAY. AND I GUESS, OKAY, ONE MORE QUESTION THEN FOR THE APPLICANT AND SORRY ABOUT CALLING YOU BACK UP. SHE'S THERE. I'M HERE. OKAY. HI. UM, SO I'M GONNA JUST GET MYSELF IN TROUBLE WITH CITY STAFF AND JUST ASK YOU IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK WITH ONE OF THE ASSOCIATIONS TO ENTER INTO SOME KIND OF COVENANT TO LIMIT YOUR DENSITY SINCE THAT SEEMS TO BE AN ISSUE WITH THEM. THEM, AND I'M NOT, THE CITY CANNOT ENFORCE IT OR IN ANY WAY HELP YOU CRAFT THAT DOCUMENT. I'M JUST SUGGESTING THAT MAYBE YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH THEM. I THINK I'M VERY FIRM ON THE FACT THAT I, I ONLY WANNA BUILD 24 AS I TOLD HIM BEFORE, THIS IS A PRIVATE VENTURE BETWEEN ME AND MY BROTHER. UM, YOU, THERE'S BASICALLY NO WAY, UM, AS FAR AS AS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY TO BUILD MORE THAN THAT, WE DON'T WANNA BUILD MORE THAN THAT. WE DON'T, WE JUST DON'T WANT TO. UM, SO I, YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH I I I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WOULD MAKE EVERYBODY FEEL WARM AND FUZZY, BUT I FEEL I'M COMMITTED TO MAKING 24 AND THAT'S, THAT'S OKAY. IT, AND WE, WE APPRECIATE YOUR TELLING US THAT, BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT, UH, AS WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF DENSITY THAT YOU COULD DO. AND SO THAT WAS THE ONE REASON WHY I WAS SUGGESTING THAT OTHER POSSIBLE DISCUSSION. BUT THAT'S FINE IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE NOT OPEN TO THAT. I JUST WANTED TO ASK THE QUESTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, MS. HERNANDEZ, I, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, IF WE ARE, IF WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THESE RESTRICTIONS, IT'S ONE THING TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT MECHANISMS ARE THERE, UM, THAT, UH, THAT CAN [03:20:01] BE ENTERTAINED AND ASK A GENERAL QUESTION ABOUT THAT. BUT WE SHOULD NOT BE ASKING IF, UH, PARTIES ARE WILLING TO DO THAT BECAUSE THAT BORDER'S ON CONTRACT ZONING AND WE CAN'T DO THAT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I'M SURE THAT'S NOT, LET ME CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD, THAT IS NOT WHAT I WAS ASKING. I WAS ENCOURAGING THAT PERHAPS THAT DISCUSSION SHOULD TAKE PLACE. I WANTED THE APPLICANT TO UNDERSTAND, WE LOOK AT THIS AS A MAXIMUM ZONING REQUESTING UP TO 40 UNITS ON THE PROPERTY AND TO UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNED ABOUT THE DENSITY SINCE WE DON'T HAVE AN MF 12, UH, TOOL TO USE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONERS? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, UH, AGAIN, THIS IS A DISTRICT EIGHT CASE, UH, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION. THANK YOU CHAIR. UH, ACTUALLY I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE, UH, FOR COMING IN TODAY IN THE EMAILS AND VOICEMAILS, UM, TO VOICE YOUR, UH, OPINION. AND I'LL LIKE TO THANK THE APPLICANT AND THEIR ARCHITECT FOR COMING IN TODAY. UM, MY VIEW IS I'D LIKE, UM, THIS IS A UNIQUE COMMUNITY, UM, THE WAY IT'S BUILT. I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN, I'VE RAN TO THE PARK, I'VE BEEN TO THE PARK MANY TIMES, SO I KNOW IT. UM, I THINK KEEPING THIS PROPERTY AS AN R FIVE WOULD PRESERVE YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WOULD PRESERVE, UM, HER HERITAGE OF HER HOME. AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THIS ZONING CASE. AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THERE IS A MOTION FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? UH, WE'RE GONNA GO WITH COMMISSIONER FUENTES ON THAT ONE. ALRIGHT. DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS ASKING TO RESERVE HER DISCUSSION. , UH, COMMISSIONER'S TO THE RIGHT THINKING, THINKING COMMISSIONER SIPES , JUST SO THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS MORE TIME TO THINK ABOUT HER DISCUSSION. UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY A, A REALLY TOUGH CASE IN MY OPINION BECAUSE, UM, IT IS SURROUNDED BY MULTIFAMILY AND MF 18 IS A VERY GOOD STEP DOWN FROM MF 33 AND, AND THAT, THAT ABUTS IT. UM, IF YOU COUNT ACROSS THE STREET, UM, I, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE, THE, THE, THE NEIGHBOR'S, UH, CONCERNS. UM, I THINK THERE ARE MULTIPLE MECHANISMS AVAILABLE WITHIN THE CITY CODE TO ADDRESS DRAINAGE, UM, AND EVEN, UH, SOME OF THE TREE PRESERVATION. UM, AND SO I'LL BE HONEST, YOU KNOW, USUALLY THIS WOULD BE A, A, A SLAM DUNK DENIAL FOR ME. BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M KIND OF STILL DECIDING WHICH WAY THAT I MIGHT VOTE ON THIS. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. UM, COMMISSIONER, WE DISCUSSION? I AGREE WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER SIPES. THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT CASE. AGAIN, YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, LAND USE AROUND THE PROPERTY AND YOU SEE THAT IT'S FAIRLY HIGH DENSITY. SO AGAIN, I AM NOT, I HAVEN'T DECIDED YET. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION. UM, THIS IS ANOTHER GEM IN DISTRICT EIGHT, AND WHILE THERE IS, UH, DEFINITELY MULTIFAMILY ZONING ALREADY IN PLACE, I QUESTION HOW THAT GOT ASSIGNED ACTUALLY IN THE FIRST PLACE. BUT, UM, I DO APPRECIATE ALL THE PARTIES AT LEAST TRYING TO TALK AND FIND SOME COMPROMISE ON THIS CASE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, I AM ALSO GOING TO GIVE COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE A LITTLE MORE TIME. UM, YOU KNOW, I, I DO AGREE WITH WHAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE SAID, UH, COMMISSIONER SIPES AND COMMISSIONER WHEAT. UM, HOWEVER, I COME DOWN ON THE OTHER SIDE, I LOOK AT IT AND I SEE THE MULTIFAMILY AROUND THERE. I SEE THAT THERE IS NO PLAN AMENDMENT REQUIRED. AND SO IN FACT, I'M GOING TO OPPOSE THIS MOTION BECAUSE I THINK I WOULD GO ALONG WITH THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION HERE. UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, IS THAT SUFFICIENT TIME? THANK YOU. YES, . OKAY. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. YEAH, I MEAN, UM, PART OF THE REASON I WANTED TO, I JUST NEED A LITTLE MORE TIME TO THINK THROUGH, UM, ALL THE STANDARDS AND ISSUES THAT I LIKE TO LOOK AT ON THESE CASES. I THINK THIS CASE IS EXTREMELY DIFF DIFFICULT AND, UH, APOLOGIES TO COMMISSIONER ORTIZ WHO SEEMS TO BE GETTING THE BRUNT OF THE DIFFICULT CASES SINCE YOU'VE COME ON. I FEEL LIKE, I FEEL LIKE THIS MAY HAVE BEEN ON PURPOSE. I DON'T KNOW. WE'RE, WE'RE NOT HAZING YOU. UM, NO, I MEAN, I AGREE WITH CHAIR BUSANTE WITH RESPECT TO THE FACT THAT THIS, THERE ARE THE MULTI-FAMILY AROUND IT. AND [03:25:01] I THINK THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE DON'T NEED A A, A PLAN AMENDMENT. IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN. HOWEVER, I THINK I COME DOWN PROBABLY OPPOSITE SIMPLY BECAUSE 41 UNITS VERSUS 23 UNITS IS VERY DIFFERENT AND WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED AND SHOWN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE SMALLER NUMBER OF UNITS AND WHAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SEEING. AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF THEY WERE TO EVEN AGREE TO THAT WITHOUT SOMETHING, UH, LIKE A DEEDED RESTRICTION, I KNOW WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT THAT WITHOUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO ENSURE THAT THAT IS IN FACT THE WAY IT'S GONNA BE DEVELOPED. I JUST HAVE A HARD TIME, YOU KNOW, SHE COULD SELL THE PROPERTY TOMORROW OR SOMETHING COULD HAPPEN, AND THEN ANOTHER DEVELOPER COULD COME IN AND, YOU KNOW, RAISE THE TREES AND DO WHATEVER AND DEVELOP IT HOWEVER THEY WANT WITH THOSE 41 UNITS. SO, AND, AND LOOKING AT THE, THE WIDTH OF THE ROADS THERE, THE FACT THAT THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS, I DO HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE ADVERSE IMPACTS ON SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, UM, AS WELL AS HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY. SO I THINK I'LL BE PROBABLY SUPPORTING THE DENIAL. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE. THE MOTION IS FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES. HAVE I GONE DEEP ENOUGH INTO THE AFTERNOON THAT I'VE LOST MY MEMORY? UM, IT IS A MOTION FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER BARROS? NO. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. NO. MOTION PASSES FOR DENIAL. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU ALL. UM, GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL. THANK YOU FOR COMING. THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT CASE. CASE NUMBER 11. SO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF I COULD ASK YOU TO BE QUIET WHILE YOU EXIT SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE OUR MEETING. THANK YOU. YEAH. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY MY NAME IS REBECCA. I'M A PLANNER WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. EXCUSE ME. ITEM 11 LOCATED AT 48 0 3. JOHN V VICTOR IS A REQUEST FOR CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FIVE TO R FIVE CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. THERE WERE 17 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED. THERE IS NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REGISTERED FOR THIS AREA. THE EXISTING R FIVE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED R FIVE CD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS IS NOT APPROPRIATE BECAUSE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. WHILE THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH CURRENTLY HAS A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO UNITS, IT IS LOCATED ON A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE. FURTHERMORE, NO ADDITIONAL MEDIUM OR HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS ARE FOUND IN THE AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND I BELIEVE THE, UM, APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS PRESENT. THANK YOU. GREAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE? YES SIR. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME UP, INTRODUCE YOURSELF, TELL US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US WHY YOU'RE SEEKING THIS REZONING APPLICATION. HOW YOU DOING? UH, MY NAME IS JOWAN SCOTT. I WORK WITH THE DEALER ARCHITECT GROUP. UM, I'M REPRESENTATIVE OF THE, UH, THE APPLICANT. UH, MR. TAYLOR. THE GOAL IS TO PROVIDE NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, RENTAL HOUSING FOR MODERATE AND LOW INCOME FAMILIES OR PERSONNELS. UM, HE'S BEEN RENTING HOMES IN THE AREA FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS. UM, THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF, UH, TWO SINGLE FAMILY UNITS. ONE, ONE BEDROOM, OR, I'M SORRY, ONE TWO BEDROOM, ONE BATH, 640 SQUARE FOOT UNIT AND ONE TWO BEDROOM, TWO BATH, 784 SQUARE FOOT UNIT. UM, HE OWNS MULTIPLE PAIR, UH, PROPERTIES IN AREA, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, AS WELL AS THE, THE PROPERTY UP ABOVE IT. HE, WHICH IS, UH, THE OTHER PROPERTY WHICH WAS OWNED FOR THE, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE USE OR MULTIPLE, UH, FAMILY HOMES. AND SO HE WAS JUST REQUESTING THAT, UM, STAFF RECONSIDERS THEIR, UH, DENIAL REQUEST. THANK, THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. SCOTT. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT WE CAN LOOK AROUND I THINK ANYONE? NO SIR. NO. GREAT. WONDERFUL. ALRIGHT. UH, [03:30:01] THAT WAS A LITTLE STRONG. UH, COMMISSIONER WATSON, THIS IS A DISTRICT TWO CASE TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. SO I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION AND MOVE TO DISCUSSION IF WE ARE THERE. NOT QUITE. LET'S SEE. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE? NO. UH, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE. UH, COMMISSIONER WATSON, I'M SORRY TO DELAY YOU. UH, DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MEASURE. I MEAN, WE'VE HAD SOME FUN ONES TODAY, SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO SAVE EVERYBODY SOME TIME. UM, SO, UH, I'M GONNA MAKE A, A MOTION TO UM, APPROVE THE REZONING REQUEST AND, UM, I HAVE SOME VERY SPECIFIC REASONS WHY, UM, WE CAN GET A SECOND FIRST OR I CAN DISCUSS FIRST WHATEVER. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. UH, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. THERE IS A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. UH, YES, NOW WE CAN DISCUSS. ALL RIGHT, SO THERE ARE A FEW SECTIONS OF DISTRICT TWO WHERE THERE IS SOME, AS THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS ARE CHANGING, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE UNITS. UM, AND THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL IS BASICALLY IDENTICAL TO THE PROPERTY. UM, ON PARCEL ONE 10 THAT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE MAP, UM, IS THERE, THEY ARE NOT LUXURY DUPLEXES. THEY ARE, THEY ARE GENUINELY AFFORDABLE RENTS. THEY ARE WELL-BUILT, UM, THEY'RE WELL-MAINTAINED. UM, THEY ARE CREATING ADDITIONAL UNITS. IT FITS THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, BASICALLY LIKE IF YOU'RE ON THE GROUND AND YOU GO SEE IT, I ACTUALLY WENT INTO THE PROPERTIES THIS MORNING, UM, AND I HAVE LIVED IN APARTMENTS LIKE THIS IN DISTRICT TWO. SO, UM, I THINK MAINTAINING THE OPTION, UM, TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, GOOD, I I HESITATE TO SAY GOOD, BUT DEVELOPMENT THAT ACTUALLY IS AFFORDABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT FITS WITH THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, PATTERN AND DESIGN IS, IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER DOING BOTH FOR POLICY OBJECTIVES. UM, AND IN THIS CASE THERE'S REALLY NO DESIGN CONCERNS OR ADDITIONAL ADVERSE IMPACTS ON TRAFFIC ON THE COMMUNITY. IT'S NOISE. THERE'S LIKE, THERE'S, THERE'S NO REASON, UM, TO DENY THIS IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE. UM, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS BASICALLY WELCOMING IT. UM, YOU KNOW, I, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO SEE THIS, THIS UH, KIND OF THING COME FORWARD. SO, AND I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO, UH, COMMEND THE APPLICANT FOR MAKING A LOT OF CONTACT WITH BOTH THE COUNCIL OFFICER AND MYSELF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE PROPERTY. SO, ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMISSIONER WATSON. FURTHER DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT. COMMERS TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. UH, WOULD ECHO EVERYTHING COMMISSIONER WATSON SAID, UH, THERE BEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED BY COMMISSIONER WATSON WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR BUSTAMONTE. UH, AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEM NUMBER 14 PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS DUSTIN WICO, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER 14 IS LOCATED AT 3 0 7 TANGLEWOOD GOING FROM R FIVE TO R FIVE CD WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME. THERE ARE 26 NOTICES MAILED THREE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED, AND TWO IN FAVOR OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET AND THERE IS NO RESPONSE FROM SHEER HILL RIDGEVIEW NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. HOWEVER, THE PROPOSED USE DOES NOT APPEAR CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE PRI PRIMARILY R SIX, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND THE COMM CONDITIONAL USE WILL ALLOW FOR TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND DOES NOT FIST WITH THE EXISTING CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PLEASE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS DELANEY HONKER AND I'M HERE WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMONT. WE ARE LOCATED AT 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE. UM, THANK YOU STAFF FOR THE INTRODUCTION. UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE DON'T COME FORWARD WITH A LOT OF CASES THAT STAFF DOES NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL ON. UM, IN THIS CERTAIN CASE, WE DO HAVE TO RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH STAFF. UM, THE TWO REASONS FOR NOT RECOMMENDING APPROVAL IS THAT THEY STATED THAT IT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA AND THAT IT DOES NOT HAVE THE APPROPRIATE DENSITY FOR THE SITE. UM, WE DO HAVE TO RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE. THE DENSITY OF TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS IS ALLOWED AS OF RIGHT TO TODAY AND WE ARE NOW ASKING TO INCREASE THE DENSITY ON THE PROPERTY. UM, AND THEN I'M GONNA GET INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE IN A, IN A LITTLE BIT WITH A COUPLE OF PICTURES, BUT [03:35:01] WE DO BELIEVE THAT IT'S, UM, CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WITH THAT, I'LL JUMP RIGHT IN. NEXT SLIDE. UM, THIS IS THE PROPERTY. IT'S LOCATED AT 3 0 7 TANGLEWOOD ROAD. IT IS APPROXIMATELY 0.2663 ACRES. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE AERIAL, THERE ARE TWO, UH, RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON THE PROPERTY. AND THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED R FIVE AND WE ARE ASKING FOR CONDITIONAL USE UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING OF R FIVE AND THE, UM, SAN ANTONIO'S A D D U STANDARDS. BOTH UNITS CAN BE USED AS RESIDENTIAL UNITS IF ONE IS OWNER OCCUPIED. WE ARE REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW BOTH UNITS TO BE RENTABLE UNITS. UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE ONLY PLACES IN SAN ANTONIO'S DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT DIFFERENTIATES BETWEEN OWNER-OCCUPIED UNITS AND RENTABLE UNITS. FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE, WE ARE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING. UM, THE DENSITY WILL REMAIN THE SAME ON THE PROPERTY. WITH THIS CONDITIONAL USE, UM, WE ARE JUST TRYING TO NOT DISCRIMINATE AGAINST RENTAL UNITS. FINE. UM, WE DECIDED THAT WE WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A CD OPPOSED TO AN RMM BECAUSE A CD DOES REQUIRE A SITE PLAN. UM, THE SITE PLAN IS THE CURRENT FOOTPRINT OF BOTH UNITS ON THE PROPERTY. UM, WE ARE NOT ASKING TO INCREASE EITHER FOOTPRINT. THERE WILL BE NO ADDITION, NO NEW ADDITIONS AND NO NEW CONSTRUCTION ON THE PROPERTY. NEITHER FOOTPRINT WILL BE EXPANDED. UM, AND IF SEVERAL YEARS DOWN THE LINE AN OWNER WANTED TO RECONSTRUCT THIS PROPERTY, THEY COULD ONLY DO SO IN THE EXACT FOOTPRINT THAT THESE BUILDINGS ARE SET OUT IN AS OF RIGHT NOW. UM, I HAD MENTIONED THAT BOTH UNITS, UNITS CAN BE USED AS, UM, RESIDENTIAL UNITS. THIS IS UNDER SAN ANTONIO'S A UH, ACCESSORY DWELL, DETACHED DWELLING UNIT PROVISIONS. UM, THE SECOND UNIT SHOWN IN THE, UH, IMAGE IS MEETS ALL OF THE A D D U STANDARDS. AND IF THE ONE OF THOSE UNITS IS OWNER OCCUPIED, THE OTHER ONE CAN BE RENTED OUT. IT'S LIKE, UM, THIS GO. ANOTHER ONE OF STAFF'S CONCERNS WAS THAT IT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. EACH ONE OF THESE GREEN CIRCLES INDICATES A SIMILAR USE TO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING, WHETHER IT BE A SIMILAR DETACHED DWELLING UNIT OR DUPLEXES. UM, THE SIMILAR USES WERE ALL ALONG TANGLEWOOD AND SURROUNDING ROADS. THIS IS JUST A FEW AERIAL EXHIBITS OF, UM, SIMILAR PROJECTS. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE BOTTOM LEFT HAND CORNER, THERE ARE, UM, DUPLEXES WITHIN THE VICINITY AS WELL AS DETACHED DWELLING UNITS THAT ARE EXEMPLIFIED THROUGH, UM, TWO FORMS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS AND TO ADDRESSES. UM, JUST TO RECAP THE UM, OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING. TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS ARE ALLOWED AS OF RIGHT TODAY. UM, WE ARE NOT INCREASING THE DENSITY, UM, WITH OUR REQUEST. WE ARE JUST REQUESTING THAT BOTH UNITS CAN BE RENTED OUT. UM, WE BELIEVE IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED PATTERN OF SURROUNDING AREAS. THERE ARE SEVERAL HOMES THAT DO HAVE THIS DETACHED DWELLING UNIT, UM, SET UP AND A COUPLE DUPLEXES. UM, WE ALSO WILL NOT BE ASKING FOR ANY CHANGES TO THE STRUCTURES. THERE WILL BE NO ADDITIONS, NO EXPANSIONS, AND NO NEW CONSTRUCTION. AND, UM, THAT CONCLUDES I PRESENTATION AND I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, WE HAVE SUSAN AND MIKE SWENSON. OKAY. IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF, TELL US YOUR ADDRESS AND OKAY. GIVE US YOUR POSITION IF YOU WOULD. OKAY. I'M, I'M MIKE SWENSON. I AM THE OWNER OF 3 0 2 WAX WOOD. IT'S CATTYCORNER TO THAT PROPERTY. UH, THAT'S A FAMILY HOME THAT, UH, THE, SO I AM OPPOSED TO THE RENT BOTH BEING ABLE TO BE RENTALS. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO RENTALS. I'M JUST OPPOSED TO BEING ABLE TO RENT BOTH OF THEM LIKE THAT. THAT STRUCTURE WAS A, IS A DETACHED GARAGE. AND, UM, SO IT IS BEING CONVERTED OR WILL BE CONVERTED INTO ANOTHER HOME. RIGHT NOW I AM UNAWARE OF ANY OF THE OTHER, I THINK OF THE OVERHEAD THERE. UH, IT GIVES A NOT THE RIGHT IMPRESSION. I DON'T BELIEVE THOSE ARE OTHER DWELLINGS THOUGH. THEY'RE OTHER DETACHED GARAGES, WHICH ARE PRETTY COMMON IN SAN ANTONIO. IN 1956 WHEN THESE HOUSES WERE BUILT, UM, THE HOUSE WAS RECENTLY RENOVATED AND THE GARAGE WAS TAKEN AWAY. SO NOW THERE IS NO GARAGE FOR THAT, FOR THE, FOR THE MAIN HOUSE, IF YOU WILL. SO I ALSO DON'T KNOW WHERE PEOPLE WILL PARK IF THAT IS, UH, 'CAUSE THERE'S AN ALLEY BEHIND IT, WHICH IS THERE IS NO PARKING, UH, ALLOWED IN THOSE AREAS. THE, THE, UM, [03:40:01] ZONING MAP THAT WE HAVE SHOWED, ALL THE OTHER THING, ALL OF THE OTHER AREAS IN THAT VICINITY IS JUST REGULAR R FIVE. NONE OF THEM ON THE, ON THE, THE, UH, PAPER THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THIS GU GROUP SHOWS IT AS ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT. SO, UM, I GET CALLS REGULARLY FOR THAT HOUSE PE YOU KNOW, THE, THE AREAS ARE BOOMING, THEY'RE GROWING UP, UH, PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO BUY THOSE AREAS. WE'VE HAD PEOPLE TRYING TO TEAR DOWN SOME OF THOSE DUPLEXES IN THAT AREA, TRYING TO TURN THEM INTO CAR WASHES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO I'M JUST CONCERNED IF WE START, UH, CHIPPING AWAY AT THE ZONING THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE, THAT YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU DO FOR ONE, YOU DO FOR THE OTHER. AND IT WILL JUST CONTINUE TO, TO, UH, SNOWBALL AND THEN WE WON'T HAVE THAT RESIDENTIAL, UH, FEEL OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, SIR. MS. S SWENSON, DID YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING? YOU'RE SIGNED UP AS WELL. OKAY, VERY GOOD. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. UH, WE DO HAVE ONE VOICEMAIL AND ONE VOICEMAIL. WONDERFUL. UH, YES, THIS IS ANNETTE DEGROAT ON 6 0 3 SHADY WOOD LANE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. I HAVE A NOTICE OF ZONING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING. ANYWAY, I'M CALLING FROM A THREE MINUTE MESSAGE, UH, THE ZONING CHAIN REQUEST. UH, I WILL, UH, IN FAVOR OF HAVE, YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE DONE. BUT ANYWAY, AND THAT DERO, MY PHONE NUMBER IS TWO ONE OH THREE FIVE TWO ZERO EIGHT SIX. CASE NUMBER IS Z 20 21 1 0 7 0 0 3 4 7 CD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAVE A GOOD DAY. BYE. . SHE DIDN'T TAKE ALL THREE MINUTES, SO THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING. SHE KNEW SHE HAD IT. THAT'S IMPORTANT. UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT ONE CASE. I'M SORRY. WOULD YOU LIKE A LITTLE BRAVADO? WOULD THANK YOU. YOU, UM, FOR ALL OF THE COMMENTS, UM, OVER THE PAST YEAR, THE SECONDARY UNIT HAS BEEN CONVERTED TO A RESIDENTIAL UNIT. UM, WE DROVE THE PROPERTY AND HAVE EVIDENCE THAT THERE ARE DETACHED DWELLING UNITS EXEMPLIFIED THROUGH THE TWO FORMS OF ACCESS, SEPARATE, UM, YARDS AND TWO ADDRESSES. UM, UNDER THE CURRENT R FIVE ZONING, THE PROPERTY IS ALLOWED, THE TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS, WHICH I KNOW WE'VE TOUCHED ON. UM, WE ARE NOT REQUESTING ANY NEW ADDITIONS TO EITHER UNIT OR ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION. WE ARE SIMPLY REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW BOTH UNITS TO BE RENTAL UNITS AND TO NOT, UH, DISCRIMINATE AGAINST RENTERS. UM, WE ARE FURTHER REQUESTING CONDITIONAL USE FOR EXTRA ASSURANCES TO, UM, NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES OF BEING BOUND TO A SITE PLAN. UM, AND WE, UM, THE ONLY CHANGE WE WERE REQUESTING IS TO ALLOW FOR THE TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS AS OPPOSED TO THE CURRENTLY ALLOWED ONE OWNER OCCUPIED AND ONE RENTAL UNIT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT, THIS IS THE DISTRICT ONE CASE, SO COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANKS. VERY GOOD. UH, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT COMMISSIONER BOTTLES? NOPE. NO THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS COMMERS TO MY RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? YES MA'AM. UH, CAN YOU JUST, UH, ADDRESS THE CONCERN ABOUT PARKING? YES MA'AM. UM, WE WILL HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING. UM, I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT ADDING A GRAVEL, UM, PARKING SPOT FOR THE REAR PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. UM, THEY DIDN'T WANNA INCREASE IMPERVIOUS COVER. UM, WE'LL GET A MORE AFFIRMATIVE ANSWER FOR THAT AND I WILL LET YOU KNOW. UM, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT ADDING AN ADDITIONAL PARKING SPOT FOR THE BACK PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. OKAY, THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ACTUALLY, I'M GONNA FOLLOW UP ON THAT QUESTION. UH, AND THAT WOULD BE FROM THE ALLEY ACCESS? YES. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, SHOULD I ASK AGAIN? YOU SEEM DISAPPOINTED. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTION. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING KNOW. ALRIGHT, , UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION. OKAY. UM, SO I'LL BE MAKING A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THIS CASE. UM, UH, I REALLY, UM, RESPECT THE FACT THAT THE APPLICANTS, UH, WENT WITH THE CD IN ORDER TO HAVE THE SITE PLAN THAT CONTROLS FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT [03:45:01] AS WELL AS, UM, IMPERVIOUS COVER. UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN IN THINKING THROUGH THIS, YOU KNOW, THE ARGUMENTS WITH RESPECT TO RENTERS, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE POTENTIALLY LOSING THE RESIDENTIAL FEEL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH I CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE, WHERE YOU GUYS ARE COMING FROM, THERE IS NOTHING THAT WOULD PREVENT ANY OF YOUR NEIGHBORS FROM RENTING THEIR MAIN HOUSE. SO WITH RESPECT TO THAT, UM, THAT REALLY IS, SHOULD, SHOULD NOT BE A, A CONCERN NECESSARILY WITH THIS BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING THAT ZONING DOES THAT COULD CONTROL THAT FOR ANY OF YOUR, ANY OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. SO LOOKING AT THIS FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, UM, I SEE VERY LITTLE ADVERSE IMPACTS ON SURROUNDING PROPERTIES BECAUSE WE HAVE JUST A VERY INCREMENTAL DENSIFICATION HERE. HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE. UM, SAME GOES FOR THAT. AND WE'RE ALSO ADDING ADDITIONAL HOUSING TO THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS VITAL RIGHT NOW. SO WE'RE GOING FOR A PUBLIC POLICY INITIATIVE THAT I THINK IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW CONSIDERING OUR HOUSING CRISIS. SO FOR THOSE REASONS, THAT'S WHY I'M GONNA APPROVE THIS. MR. CHAIR. SECOND. THAT MOTION. ALRIGHT. THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE AS SHE PUSHED AWAY FROM THE MICROPHONE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS, UH, DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UM, YES, I, I AGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. HOWEVER, IT, IT DOES DOES CAUSE ME TO QUESTION HOW THIS MAY IMPACT, UH, SOME OF OUR OTHER DECISIONS THAT ARE BASED ON THE AD USER OR ARE WE, UH, OPENING THE DOOR THEN TO SAY THAT EVERY HOUSE WITH EVERY A D U THEN CAN BOTH BE RENTED. WHAT IMPACT WOULD THAT HAVE IF WE DECIDE TO GO THAT ROUTE ON THEN THE SHORT TERM RENTAL PROGRAM THAT'S IN PLACE, WHICH REQUIRES I THINK IN ONE OF THOSE CATEGORIES THAT THE OWNER LIVE ON SITE. JUST SOMETHING TRIGGERED IN MY HEAD THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT AND JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH MY COLLEAGUES. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING APPROPRIATE FOR A FUTURE WORK SESSION AND WE CAN CONSIDER THAT, UH, SORT OF THE AXI, UM, THE IMPACT OF THIS OR CASES LIKE THIS. UH, I DO WANT TO THANK THIS SWINSON FOR COMING DOWN. I KNOW THIS IS PROBABLY NOT, AND I KNOW IT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANTED, YOU TOLD US, SO, UM, BUT THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BOTTLES. IT'S GETTING THAT TIME OF THE AFTERNOON. UH, NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. ROLL CALL VOTE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR BUSTO. AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. TAKE CARE. GOOD LUCK. ALRIGHT, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON NOW TO ITEM NUMBER 15 AND, AND STAFF, JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, DO WE HAVE ANY VOICEMAILS ON THIS CASE? ONE FANTASTIC. VERY GOOD. ITEM NUMBER 15, PLEASE. OKAY, GOOD AFTERNOON. UM, MY NAME IS SINA ZAKO, ZONING PLANNER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER 15 IS LOCATED AT 1 1 0 4 1 SOUTH OSMOND ROAD GOING FROM C THREE N A TO MF 33 WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME. THERE WERE 11 NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED. THERE ARE NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUESTS. THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE PRIMARILY C TWO, C THREE AND R SIX. THE MF 18 LIMITED DENSITY MULTIFAMILY ZONING, WHICH IS PERMITTED WITH THE CURRENT LAND USE DESIGNATION, WOULD ALLOW FOR CONSTRUCTION OF A LOWER DENSITY APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT BETTER MATCHES THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S EXISTING CHARACTER STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF MF 18 LIMITED DENSITY MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF CHANGING LAND USE FROM SUBURBAN TO GENERAL URBANS. HERE THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU MS. FAIRMAN. HI, GOOD AFTERNOON. ASHLEY FAIRMONT. UM, 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE. UH, I HAVE A PRESENTATION. OH, OKAY. THANK YOU. I I WILL BE BRIEF. I KNOW IT'S LATE AND I HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE REASONS WHY YOU ARE LATE. SO, UM, YEAH, SO, SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF THIS REQUEST. UM, BUT I DO WANNA SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE AREA BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. UM, AND, AND REALLY JUSTIFICATION FOR THE MF 33, WHICH [03:50:01] IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. UM, THE SITE IS ONLY AN ACRE AND, AND A QUARTER, SO 1.25 ACRES OR SO. UM, AND CAN YOU STEP TO LIKE, UH, SO HERE IS JUST AN EXHIBIT AERIAL OF, OF THE AREA. WE'RE AT PRU AND BANDERA HERE, UM, JUST OFF OF, OF THAT INTERSECTION. UM, AND THEN THE PROXIMITY TO 1604 IN BANDERA. UM, JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE. SO, SO SOME OF THE USES THAT ARE HAPPENING, UM, YOU KNOW, STAFF SAID WE WERE INCONSISTENT WITH, WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE AREA. AND I, I DON'T DISAGREE. THERE'S A LOT OF COMMERCIAL USE, UM, THAT IS HAPPENING. AND, AND THIS SITE IS ACTUALLY ZONE C THREE, BUT THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY USE AT THE SAME DENSITY THAT'S HAPPENING. SO WE HAVE THE COMMERCIAL C TWO C THREE TYPE USES ALONG BANDERA, WE ARE THE SITE HERE. UM, AND THEN TO THE NORTH OF US, THIS PROPERTY HERE IS ZONE C TWO, UH, BUT IT'S USED AS MULTIFAMILY MF 33 DESIGNATION. SO WE HAVE THIS APARTMENTS HERE AND THEN THERE'S ALSO MF 33 TO THE SOUTH, UM, ACTUALLY EVEN FURTHER INSIDE OF BANDERA OFF OF PRU. NEXT SLIDE. UM, WE DID GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION LAST WEEK, UH, AND, AND THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE CHANGE. UM, AND THEN HERE, HERE IS THAT ZONING MAP. SO THE SITE RIGHT NOW IS CURRENTLY ZONED C THREE AND WE THINK THAT MF 33 IS, IS A LESS INTENSE AND BETTER ZONING OPTION THAN THAT C THREE. AND AGAIN, CONSISTENT WITH THE ADJACENT USE TO THE NORTH. AND THEN THIS IS HOW WE ENVISION THE, THE DEVELOPMENT FITTING IN. SO IT'S A PRETTY SMALL MULTI-FAMILY COMMUNITY, 39 UNITS TOTAL. UH, AND THE IDEA IS TO DO A BUILDING THAT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE TO THE NORTH HERE. UM, BUT, BUT JUST IN ITS INDIVIDUAL OWNED COMPLEX. UM, AND A NEW DEVELOPMENT. THIS ONE IS, HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR A LITTLE WHILE, SO, SO THIS IS THE ONE BUILDING WITH 39 UNITS. AGAIN, THE LAYOUT, UM, HERE. AND THEN FINALLY WE JUST HAVE ONE RENDERING OF WHAT, WHAT THE BUILDING WILL LOOK LIKE. UM, WITH THAT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, THERE IS SOME PUBLIC COMMENT IF WE COULD PLAY THAT VOICEMAIL. I'M PRESUMING NO ONE ELSE IS PRESENT. HELLO? I WAS JUST FOLLOWING UP AN EMAIL I SENT, UH, ABOUT FIVE MINUTES AGO. MY NAME IS ARTIO PEREZ AND I'M AT 1 0 8 9 6 SOUTH OSMOND ROAD, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO FOUR NINE. AND MY PHONE NUMBER'S (210) 875-9711. I'M CALLING REGARDING ZONING CASE NUMBER Z 2021 DASH TEN SEVEN HUNDRED THREE FORTY EIGHT. AND UH, I GUESS, UH, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME GOING THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE THIS, BUT UH, WE DO NOT AGREE WITH THE ZONING CHANGE. AND UH, I GUESS YOU COULD REVIEW OUR EMAIL WITH, UH, SOME OF THE CONCERNS WE HAVE. UH, AGAIN, NOW YOU COULD REPLY TO OUR EMAIL WITH, UH, YOUR RESPOND. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THERE BEING NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT. MS. FARMAN, DO YOU WANT SOME REBUTTAL? NO, I'LL PASS, BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTION. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT EIGHT CASE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ, ONCE AGAIN TO YOU. THANK YOU. UM, ONE MORE QUESTION ACTUALLY FOR THE APPLICANT. IS IT NOW, IS THERE I MAYBE I GONNA ASK STAFF TOO. DOUBLE CHECK, BUT BEING IT, IT'S FOUR STORIES TALL AND IS THAT GONNA OVERLAY OR OVERLAY OVER THE NEIGHBORS OR ANYTHING SURROUNDING THE, THE AREA? IT, SO NO, I MEAN IT'S FOUR STORIES. MF 33 ALLOWS FOR 45 FEET IN HEIGHT. UM, SO, SO WE SHOULD FIT WITHIN THAT HEIGHT LIMITATION. UM, WE TRIED TO SET THE BUILDING BACK FROM HAUSMAN TO ALLOW FOR THAT SEPARATION BETWEEN, UM, THE SINGLE FAMILY, KIND OF THE, THE LARGER LOT SINGLE FAMILY ACROSS THE STREET. UM, IF YOU THINK THE NEXT ONE, THIS ONE, UM, YEAH, THAT ONE. SO, SO TO, TO PULL IT BACK HERE WHERE WE COULD. UM, AND, AND THE OTHER THING TOO IS THESE BUILDINGS ARE THREE STORY, UM, BUT THERE'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT ELEVATION CHANGE BETWEEN THAT PROPERTY AND THIS ONE. SO THEY SHOULD ACTUALLY BE OF EQUIVALENT HEIGHT, UM, ONCE THE SITE IS DEVELOPED AND RETAINING WALL IS BUILT IN BETWEEN THE, THE PROPERTIES AND IT'S FOR 39 UNITS TOTAL, RIGHT? CORRECT. AND HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING BACK FROM ANY OF THE, UH, I GUESS RESIDENTS OR PEOPLE NEARING ANY OPPOSITION NOW? RIGHT? UH, THAT, THAT VOICEMAIL WAS THE FIRST THAT I'VE HEARD. JUST ONE. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. NO MORE QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. UM, COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? TO MY RIGHT? ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? ALRIGHT, THERE BEING NO QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ [03:55:01] FOR TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION. UM, NO DISCUSSION. I'M JUST GONNA GO AHEAD. I THINK THAT THIS AREA DOES NEED MORE HOUSING, SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THIS ZONING CASE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER REBUTTALS. DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL EXHAUSTION ALWAYS WINS OUT. THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL, UH, BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARTOS? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR BUSTAMANTE AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. OKAY. AS I MENTIONED AT THE OUTSET OF THIS MEETING, OUR ITEM NUMBER 17 WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED TODAY AS WE DO NOT HAVE ANY U D C UH, AMENDMENTS TO DISCUSS. UH, [Other Items] THAT DOES BRING US TO ITEM 18, WHICH IS, UH, DISCUSSION AND ELECTION OF OFFICERS STAFF. IF YOU COULD LEAD US THROUGH THAT PROCESS. ALL RIGHT. FIRST WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL START WITH THE PRO TEM POSITION. UH, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL ENTERTAIN ANY, UM, NOMINATIONS. IF THERE ARE, UH, MULTIPLE NOMINATIONS, WE WILL DO, UM, UH, VOTES AND THEN, UH, MAJORITY WILL, UH, PREVAIL. SO FIRST, AND THEN WE'LL DO VOICE VOTE. IF WE HEAR, UH, OPPOSITION, UH, TO THAT, THEN WE'LL DO ROLL CALL, VOTE JUST TO KIND OF KEEP THINGS SUFFICIENT. C CATHERINE, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? YEAH. UH, WE TYPICALLY START WITH PRO TEM, THEN MOVE UP TO VICE CHAIR, THEN MOVE UP TO CHAIR. LET ME, THERE'S NO REASON NOT TO, IF Y'ALL WANNA DO THAT. SURE. OKAY. WELL WE CAN START WITH CHAIR. ALRIGHT, SO I'LL TAKE NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIR. I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE FOR CHAIR. ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? OKAY. ALL IN IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT. OCEAN PASSES. CHAIR BUSIA. I CAN TECHNICALLY PASS IT BACK TO YOU NOW AND YOU CAN DO IT IF YOU'D LIKE. OKAY. UM, WE WILL GO ON AND OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIRMAN. I LIKE TO, UM, MAKE A NOMINATION FOR SUMMER GREATHOUSE FOR VICE CHAIR. OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALRIGHT. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON. ANY FURTHER? NOMINATIONS? CAN I SELF NOMINATE? YEAH. COMMISSIONER SIPES. UH, NOMINATE HAS NOMINATED HIMSELF. SECOND. YEAH, YOU CAN. OH WAIT. OKAY. UH, ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE TWO NOMINEES. UM, IN THIS CASE I THINK WE SHOULD DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE . OH, WELL WE ARE NOT, WE ARE NOT DOING FEATS OF STRENGTH. I'M SORRY. . YOU'LL DEFINITELY FEED ME VERY . WELL, ALRIGHT. UM, IS THERE ANY, WELL ACTUALLY WE'LL TAKE A STATEMENT FROM EACH OF OUR PEOPLE. LET'S DO THAT. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE AS A CANDIDATE FOR VICE CHAIR. UM, GIVEN THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER NOMINATION I WOULD LIKE TO WITHDRAW OR NO LONGER BE NOMINATED . ALRIGHT. EVERYONE CAN CONSIDER THAT STATEMENT. COMMISSIONER SS SIPES . UM, WOW, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF A . I DIDN'T HAVE A PREPARED STATEMENT. UM, NO, I JUST, I JUST, UH, HAVE REALLY ENJOYED, UM, THE, THE OPPORTUNITY UNDER, UNDER, UH, BUSTA MONTE, HIS, HIS LEADERSHIP THAT I, AND I'M REALLY GLAD THAT HE'S ABLE TO RUN AGAIN, UM, TO, TO, TO LEARN. AND, UM, IT, FOR ME, I WOULD JUST LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO LEARN UNDER, UNDER, UNDER HIM. AND AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, FLATTERY WILL GET YOU EVERYWHERE. UM, ALRIGHT. UH, WE DO HAVE TWO, UH, NOMINEES. AND SO, UH, DO I HAVE TO, I HAVE TO GO THROUGH. WELL, SHE'S WITHDRAWING UNLESS THOSE ONES THAT PUT HER UP AND, AND SECOND, I MEAN, THEY COULD WITHDRAW THEIR MOTION. OKAY. UH, WHO NOM? UH, COMMISSIONER BOTTLES WAS YOUR NOMINATION. NO, NO. DID REMOVE THE NAME. WE GOT [04:00:01] WE ALRIGHT. COMPETITION. SO, ALRIGHT, , UH, THOSE IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. OKAY, WAIT, SORRY. LET'S DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE. I'M SORRY, I, I'M BLANKING HERE. ALRIGHT. A CALL, VOTE FOR THOSE IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE WA UH, COMMISSIONER WATSON. IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT SHE HAS WITHDRAWN, I AM GOING TO SAY NO IN SUPPORT OF YOUR MENTAL HEALTH COMMISSIONER FUENTES. HOLD ON A SECOND, MAAM. CHAIR IF WE COULD, YES. MAYBE WHAT THEY DO IS ANNOUNCE WHO THEY'RE VOTING FOR. OKAY. WE CAN DO THAT. OKAY. GO. LET'S DO THAT INSTEAD. ALRIGHT. REJECTED. WE'VE DONE IT DIFFERENT WAYS AT DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS AND IT'S CONFUSING. HE STARTED IT. SO WE'RE ALRIGHT. WE'RE GOING. IF YOU WOULD INDICATE YOUR PREFERRED CANDIDATE OF THE TWO. ONE WHO SAYS SHE DOES NOT WANT IT. AND COMMISSIONER SIPES. AND, UH, WITH A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER WATSON SIPES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES. COMMISSIONER SIPES. COMMISSIONER. WHEAT SIPES. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. COMMISSIONER SYKES. COMMISSIONER. BARROS COMMISSIONER. SUMMER . COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. CAN YOU REPEAT IT? I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. WE DIDN'T QUITE CATCH THAT. SIPES. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. I'LL ABSTAIN. DON'T VOTE AGAINST MYSELF. . GOOD WORK. COMMISSIONER SIPES SIPES. CHAIR. BUSTAMONTE. COMMISSIONER SIPES. OKAY. MOTION PASSES FOR COMMISSIONER SIPES TO ALRIGHT. CONTINUE TO BE VICE CHAIR. VERY GOOD. UH, NOMINATIONS ARE NOW OPEN FOR COMMISSIONER, I'M SORRY, CHAIR PRO TEM. I NOMINATE, UM, COMMISSIONER SUMMER GREATHOUSE FOR PRO TEM. ALRIGHT. THERE'S A NOMINATION FOR SUMMER GREATHOUSE. IS THERE A SECOND? WE SECOND THAT SECOND. UH, WHO WAS THE, WHO WAS THE SECOND? COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. ALRIGHT, UH, THERE'S A SECOND. ARE THERE ANY FURTHER NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIR PRO TEM? ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE AS CHAIR PRO TEM SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? AYE. AYE. ALRIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, UH, CONGRATULATIONS. COMMISSIONER S SIPES, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. UH, I THINK WE'VE HAD A GREAT TEAM. I THINK WE'VE HAD A GREAT COMMISSION AND SO I'M SO PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOU ALL. UH, IS THERE [Approval of Minutes  ] ANY FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THIS COMMISSION? YES. MINUTES SO CLOSE. ALRIGHT, UH, WITH RESPECT TO ITEM NUMBER 19 ON OUR AGENDA, ANY CORRECTIONS AMENDMENTS, NOTES ON THE MINUTES FROM OUR JANUARY 18TH, 2022 MEETING? HEARING NONE. IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. ALRIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. ALRIGHT. MINUTES ARE APPROVED. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THIS COMMISSION. WE ARE ADJOURNED. AND THE TIME IS FIVE 17. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.