* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE TAKE YOUR SEATS. I BELIEVE WE ARE READY TO PROCEED. I HAVEN'T CALLED YOU OUT BY NAME YET. COMMISSIONER W UNTIL NOW. ALRIGHT. UM, VERY WELL. GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. UM, THIS IS THE ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE OUR SPANISH INTERPRETATION SERVICES STATEMENT. GOOD AFTERNOON, THE INTERPRET. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, BEFORE WE BEGIN, IN ACCORDANCE WITH C D C RECOMMENDATIONS AND FOR THE SAFETY OF ALL OUR RESIDENTS, UH, WE STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT, I'M SORRY, STRONGLY RECOMMEND AND ENCOURAGE THAT ALL ATTENDEES WEAR A MASK. IF YOU'D LIKE A MASK AND DON'T HAVE ONE, UH, YOU CAN GO RIGHT OVER THERE TO WHERE MR. RAVI IS HOLDING HIS HAND UP AND GET ONE. UM, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT BEING SAID, MY NAME IS JOHN BUSTAMANTE AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT FIVE ZONING COMMISSIONER. THE TIME IS ONE OH FIVE AND I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION. I DO LIKE TO DO ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND I'D LIKE TO START WITH THE COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. WHAT SAID? I SAID? I SAID LEFT. LEFT. I MEAN ROS, HOW ABOUT THAT? WE'LL GO. WE'LL START WITH YOU. COMMISSIONER BARROS. MARCO ROS, DISTRICT NINE. UH, SIR AND CAME WITH DISTRICT FOUR OVAL TIZ. DISTRICT EIGHT, TAYLOR WATSON, DISTRICT TWO, MARK WHITE. DISTRICT 10. SUMMER GRADE HOUSE DISTRICT ONE. ROB SIPES. DISTRICT SEVEN. KEN HUITT, DISTRICT SIX. AND COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. GAIL MCDANIEL FOR THE MAYOR. ALRIGHT, STAFF, DO WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT? A QUORUM IS PRESENT. INCLUDING YOU. SIR, YOU DIDN'T SAY YOU WERE HERE. OH, I INTRODUCED MYSELF ALREADY. I'M PRESENT. OH, I HOPE. UH, VERY WELL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? ALL RIGHT. AND OUR FINAL PIECE OF BUSINESS BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING IN EARNEST UH, STAFF, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE STAFF IF YOU WOULD. SO BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE MAKE SURE TO TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF. THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION. YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER. STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST. PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN X INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION. FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION IN ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THE REQUEST FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING. YOU WILL BE CALLED AN ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. THOSE IN SUPPORT IN OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION. YOU'LL BE INFORMED WHEN THE THREE MINUTES ARE UP. FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES. AND THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK. THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS. THANK YOU CHAIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO [Zoning Items  ] MUCH. STAFF. IF WE COULD GO OVER THE POSTPONED OR WITHDRAWN ITEMS. THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WILL NOT BE HEARD OR CONSIDERED TODAY. THEY ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA TODAY. ITEM NUMBER ONE, LOCATED AT ONE 12 EAST [00:05:01] SUNSET ROAD. ITEM NUMBER TWO, LOCATED AT 1518 EAST GRAYSON STREET. THAT ONE WAS WITHDRAWN AND WILL NOT RETURN UNTIL UH, THEY REAPPLY. THEY WILL HAVE TO MAKE ANOTHER APPLICATION FOR THAT AS WELL AS NUMBER THREE, UH, WHICH IS AT 1337 WESTFALL AVENUE. AND THEN, UH, 21 IS POSTPONED AND YOU WILL BE SENT, UH, ADDITIONAL NOTICE WHEN THAT CASE IS READY TO PROCEED. SO ONE IN 21 ARE POSTPONED AND YOU'LL GET NEW NOTICE FOR THOSE. RIGHT. SO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK TO ANY OF THOSE, UH, FOUR ITEMS, UH, ITEM NUMBER 1, 2, 3 OR 21, UH, THOSE WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY. UH, EITHER THEY WILL BE REFILED IN TWO CASES OR THEY WILL BE BROUGHT BACK BUT ONLY AFTER ANOTHER NOTICE IS GIVEN. SO IF YOU'RE HERE FOR THOSE FOUR CASES, UH, YOU CAN GO ON ABOUT YOUR DAY UNLESS YOU WANNA SPEND THE REST OF IT WITH US, 'CAUSE WE'LL BE HERE A WHILE. UM, ALRIGHT STAFF, IF WE CAN GO OVER THE ITEMS ON THE COMBINED HEARING. UH, CONSENT. CONSIDERATION PLEASE. YES SIR. ITEM NUMBER 17 NEEDS TO BE PULLED TO INDIVIDUAL PLEASE. AND ALSO ONE OTHER PROGRAM. CHANGE IS, ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS A CONTINUANCE TO MARCH 15TH IS THE REQUEST FOR THAT ONE. SO FOUR AND NINE FOR MARCH 15TH AND 18 AND 19 FOR MARCH 1ST. VERY GOOD. IF YOU'D READ THE FEW CASES WE HAVE LEFT FOR CONSENT CONSIDERATION, PLEASE WOULD YOU JUST LIKE ME TO READ 'EM TO THE RECORD OR JUST UH, GO OVER THE NUMBERS? LET'S JUST GO OVER THE NUMBERS FIRST. UH, IN CASE ANY COMMISSIONER WANTS TO PULL. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, NUMBER 13. NUMBER 15 HAS A RECUSAL. AND NUMBER 20. RIGHT. UH, GIVEN THAT LIST OF CASES COMMISSIONERS, DOES ANY COMMISSIONER WANT TO PULL ANY OF THE RED ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE. VERY GOOD. IF WE COULD READ THE ITEMS FOR CONSENT CONSIDERATION WITHOUT THE RECUSAL CASE. UH, INTO THE RECORD PLEASE. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE TO C ONE C CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AN RV PARK WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 2050 RIGSBY AVENUE, THERE WERE 16 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM COMANCHE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION OR SOUTHEAST SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO L WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 53 22 DIETRICH ROAD, THERE WERE 11 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND THEN ITEM NUMBER 20 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO A H O D, THE C TWO S A H O D WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A CAR WASH LO GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 12,000 BLOCK OF O'CONNOR ROAD. THERE WERE 13 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION. AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION. MR. CHAIR, COULD I GET CLARIFICATION? ITEM 17 HAS BEEN MOVED DOWN RIGHT TO THE INDIVIDUAL. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ITEMS NUMBER EIGHT, NUMBER 13 AND NUMBER 20. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. ALRIGHT. THERE IS AN, UH, MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS EIGHT 13 AND 20 BY COMMISSIONER SIPES AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARDOS. UH, ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. IT'S COMMISSIONER SIPES FOR APPROVAL. SORRY. YES. COMMISSIONER BOTTLES? UH, YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 15 AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS RECUSED AND IS MAKING HER WAY OUT OF THE HEARING ROOM. I WILL STOP NARRATING AT THIS POINT. UM, SHE OPENS THE DOOR. SHE OPENED THE DOOR. SHE PUSHED IT OPEN. ALRIGHT. UH, THE TIME IS ONE 13 AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS LEFT THE HEARING ROOM. STAFF. IF WE COULD READ ITEM NUMBER 15 INTO THE RECORD PLEASE. ITEM 15 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE AND C TWO TO MF 33. GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 2000 BLOCK OF [00:10:01] WEST LOOP. 1604 NORTH. THERE WERE SEVEN NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM OAK CREEK COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION. MR. CHAIR. ALRIGHT, THIS ITEM, UH, OTHER THAN RECUSAL WAS ELIGIBLE FOR CONSENT. THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION. MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR ITEM NUMBER 15. THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 15. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. ALRIGHT. THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER SIPES, UH, OF ITEM NUMBER 15 WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BOTTLES. THERE BEING NO DISCUSSION. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER BOTTLES? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER K SMITH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. STAFF, IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 19, WHICH I BELIEVE IS A REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE TO MARCH 1ST. AND AGAIN, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE WHO IS NOT PRESENT IN THE HEARING ROOM, UH, HAS RECUSED HERSELF. YES SIR. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO AHEAD AND DO 18 AND 19? YEAH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO 18 AND 19. ALRIGHT, PLEASE. ITEM NUMBER 18 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FOUR A H O T A A H O D TO I D Z ONE A H O D WITH PR USES PERMITTED FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT FIVE 17 MARSHALL STREET. THERE WERE 27 NOTICES MAILED, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, THREE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND FIVE POINTS. NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. A PETITION OF NINE SIGNATURES WAS RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION. THIS ITEM IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO MARCH ONE. ITEM NUMBER 19 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE TO BP WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 86 71 SOUTHWEST LOOP FOUR 10. THERE WERE 12 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM PEOPLE ACTIVE IN COMMUNITY EFFORT. THIS ITEM ALSO SEEKS A CONTINUANCE TO MARCH THE FIRST. I DO HAVE A SPEAKER, I BELIEVE FOR ITEM NUMBER 18. OKAY. UM, WITH RESPECT TO THESE ITEMS, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A CON REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE TO THE MARCH 1ST MEETING. UH, IF YOU ARE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR EITHER OF THOSE ITEMS, YOU MAY SPEAK NOW. UH, YOU MAY SPEAK AT THE NEXT MEETING, YOU MAY SPEAK AT BOTH, UH, BUT IT'S ENTIRELY UP TO YOU. SO IF WE COULD CALL THE SPEAKER OR SPEAKERS FOR EITHER OF THOSE ITEMS I HAVE FOR ITEM 18. SAL FLORES. MR. FLORES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TODAY? VERY GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. FLORES. ANYONE FURTHER? JUST DOUBLE CHECKING. NO SIR. LOOKS GOOD. VERY GOOD. ALRIGHT. UM, THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION, MR. CHAIR. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE TO THE MARCH 1ST, 2022 MEETING FOR THE FOLLOWING CASES. UH, OR ITEMS? ITEMS NUMBER 18 AND NUMBER 19. ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO MARCH 1ST FOR ITEMS 18 AND 19. IS THERE A SECOND? YEAH, I SECOND THAT. ALRIGHT. UH, THERE IS A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE TO MARCH 1ST BY COMMISSIONER SIPES WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KAMATH. UM, ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. CHAIR GUSTO. AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD CALL BACK IN COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE PLEASE. ALRIGHT, THE TIME IS ONE 17 AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS RETURNED TO THE HEARING ROOM. STAFF, IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT SET OF CASES, WHICH I BELIEVE ARE SEEKING CONTINUANCE TO MARCH 15TH. THAT'S CORRECT, SIR. IT'S ITEM NUMBER FOUR AND ITEM NUMBER NINE. WE WILL START WITH ITEM NUMBER FOUR. THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM OH TWO AND OH ONE E R Z D TO C TWO E R Z D. GENERALLY LOCATED AT NORTH LOOP 1604 EAST AND EMERALD FOREST. THERE WERE SIX NOTICES MAILED. ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM EMERALD FOREST NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THERE WERE TWO NOTICES RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION OUTSIDE 200 FEET AND THEN 30 MORE NOTICES WERE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION YESTERDAY, WHICH IS [00:15:01] WHY THIS ITEM IS SEEKING A CONTINUANCE TO MARCH THE 15TH. ITEM NUMBER NINE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I ONE H A H O D TO I D Z TWO H A H O D WITH USES PERMITTED RESIDENTIAL USES NOT TO EXCEED 381 UNITS AND USES PERMITTED IN C TWO. LOCATED IN THE 9,400 BLOCK OF SOUTHEAST LOOP FOUR 10. THERE WERE 16 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, TWO RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION VIA CORONADO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS AN OPPOSITION. 360 ARE OPPOSED OUTSIDE 200 FEET. THERE'S AN ONLINE POSITION PETITION OF 619 IN OPPOSITION AND MISSIONS ON JOSE AND HUNT WELL'S. MISSION REACH ARE OPPOSED. THESE ITEMS ARE BOTH SEEKING A CONTINUANCE TO MARCH THE 15TH. AND WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER ON ITEM NUMBER NINE AS WELL AS TWO VOICEMAILS. VERY GOOD. UH, LET'S START WITH THE VOICEMAILS AND AGAIN FOR THE SPEAKER WHO IS PRESENT. YOU MAY SPEAK TODAY, YOU MAY SPEAK AT THE MARCH 15TH MEET, UH, HEARING. YOU CAN SPEAK AT BOTH, BUT WE'RE GONNA START WITH THE VOICEMAILS AND PLAY THOSE NOW. DE ESPINA. LET'S START WITH ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH HAS THE, UH, VOICEMAIL. BOTH OF THEM DO, BOTH FOUR AND NINE. HAVE FOUR HAS A VOICEMAIL. SO LET'S PLAY THAT VOICEMAIL. AND WHILE WE'RE WAITING TO LOAD THAT UP, DO WE HAVE, UH, ANY PEOPLE PRESENT TO SPEAK WITH ITEM WITH RESPECT TO ITEM FOUR? WE HAVE ERIC WILLIAM. OKAY. MR. WILLIAM RITA. VILLA PANDO. I WITHDRAW MY REQUEST. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH MA'AM. JOE SANCHEZ, UH, THIS IS, UH, JOE SANCHEZ SANCHEZ. MR. SANCHEZ WOULD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PLAY THE VOICEMAIL OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK OR WOULD YOU WANNA WAIT UNTIL NEXT ONE? I'D LIKE TO SPEAK BRIEFLY TODAY. OKAY. IS HE THE ONLY VOICEMAIL? YES, WE WON'T FACEBOOK. VERY GOOD. WE'RE NOT GONNA PLAY THE VOICEMAIL. MR. UM, SANCHEZ, PLEASE COME UP IF YOU WOULD, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. MY NAME IS JOE SANCHEZ. I LIVE ON 37 11 RIVER FALLS THAT IS LOCATED IN THE EMERALD FOREST SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS DIVIDED INTO TWO AREAS. ONE COM IS COMPRISED OF GARDEN HOMES AND THE OTHER ONE IS REGULAR RESIDENCES. WE REPRESENT ABOUT OVER 400, UH, UH, HOMES IN THE AREA. I DO WANNA VOICE MY OPPOSITION, HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF THE DISCUSSION THAT, THAT I HAD WITH THE REPRESENTATIVE. UH, I'LL BE WILLING TO FOREGO ANY MORE COMMENTS UNTIL, UH, THE 15TH. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU MR. SANCHEZ. MS. FLORES, ANYONE ELSE PRESENT TO SPEAK ON ITEM FOUR? YES. UH, ERIC WILLIAMS WALKED IN, I BELIEVE. OH, MR. WILLIAMS, SORRY ABOUT THAT. IT'S VERY NOISY. I UNDERSTAND AND I APOLOGIZE. APOLOGIZE TO WASTE YOUR TIME THERE. UM, SO YOU CAN SPEAK TODAY, YOU CAN SPEAK AT THE MARCH 15TH HEARING. UH, YOU CAN DO BOTH. SO I'M GONNA SPEAK TODAY SINCE I'M HERE ALREADY AND REALLY IT'S NOT COMPLETE OPPOSITION TO THIS. I LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY. UM, OBVIOUSLY PROGRESS HAS TO BE MADE. SAN ANTONIO'S GROWING VERY, VERY QUICKLY. I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU VERY BRIEFLY. IF YOU WOULD GIVE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE. UH, SORRY. ERIC WILLIAMS. 18 3 0 3 APACHE SPRINGS DRIVE. SO I LIVE INSIDE THE COMMUNITY. IT IS MADE UP ABOUT 450 HOMES, GIVE OR TAKE SINCE THE FREEWAY. HERE'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS THAT AT, BEFORE WE JUST BLINDLY KIND OF GO THROUGH AND CHANGE AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE GONNA ALL OF A SUDDEN HAVE A COMMERCIAL SETUP RIGHT HERE. BECAUSE LAST YEAR IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HIGH-END LUXURY. BEFORE THAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SOMETHING ELSE. BEFORE THAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SOMETHING ELSE. SO OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A TOUGH PIECE OF PROPERTY. SO JUST BEFORE WE DO THAT, I REALLY THINK DUE DILIGENCE HAS TO BE DONE FROM THE DEVELOPING STAGE WHERE WE NEED TO SEE A SET SERIES OF PLANS OF THIS IS WHAT WE'RE APPROVING THIS FOR. THIS IS HOW IT'S GOING TO BE. ONE OF THOSE REQUESTS IS BECAUSE PULLING OUT OF THAT MAIN DRIVE RIGHT NOW CAN BE VERY DIFFICULT. YOU HAVE PEOPLE GOING AT 55 MILES AN HOUR ALONG THE ROAD ONTO THE 1604 FRONTAGE ROAD. AND I WOULD REQUEST THAT IT BE MANDATED THAT WHOEVER DEVELOPED THIS, ESPECIALLY FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, PUT A MERGE LANE IN THERE, OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, [00:20:01] AND POTENTIALLY HAVE TO EXTEND THE CUT ACROSS FROM THE FREEWAY EXIT THAT WAS PUT IN A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO TRY TO CUT ACROSS ALREADY AND WHO HAS TO GET HURT. HOPEFULLY NOBODY BECAUSE WE TAKE OUR TIME AND I, WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HAVE SEE HAPPEN IS THE CITY HAS TO PAY FOR IT LATER BECAUSE THAT'S NOT FAIR. . SO THAT'S IT RIGHT NOW. I UNDERSTAND IT'S ON A CONTINUANCE UNTIL SAWS DOES THEIR REVIEW. YOU KNOW, IT'S A TOUGH PIECE OF PROPERTY AND I LOOK AT IT IN THIS RESPECT BECAUSE I MYSELF AM A CONTRACTOR AND THESE ARE THE THINGS I WOULD RECOMMEND TO A DEVELOPER THAT WAS GOING IN. I AM LICENSED HERE WITH THE CITY. THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. WILLIAMS. THANK YOU. ANY ANYONE FURTHER ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR? NO. ALRIGHT. IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE. YES. UH, SUSAN SNOW VOICEMAIL. WE CAN, I MEAN, UH, ARE THE VOICEMAILS UP? JUST SO THAT YOU KNOW, IF YOU LEFT A VOICEMAIL, WE WON'T PLAY THE VOICEMAIL AND HAVE YOU SPEAK. YOU CAN EITHER SPEAK OR WE PLAY THE VOICEMAIL. SO IF YOU SIGNED IN TO SPEAK AND YOU GET SENT A VOICEMAIL THIS MORNING, WE WON'T DO BOTH. ALRIGHT. DID ANYONE WHO'S HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER NINE? SEND IN A VOICEMAIL. ALRIGHT, LET'S DO IT. LET'S DO THE VOICEMAILS. MY NAME IS ALLISON ELDER. I AM THE DIRECTOR OF LEGAL SERVICES AT THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER AUTHORITY. AT THE ADDRESS HERE IS 2 0 1 WEST SHERIDAN STREET. I'M CALLING WITH REGARD TO ZONING CASE 1 0 7 0 0 2 1 4. SAN ANTONIO RIVER AUTHORITY IS REQUESTING THAT NO ACTION BE TAKEN ON THIS ZONING CHANGE. TODAY WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THE APPLICANT AND TO UNDERSTAND, UH, THE NATURE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND HOW IT MAY IMPACT PUBLIC RESOURCES, INCLUDING THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, UH, SCENIC EASEMENT, UH, THE SAN JUAN ASSIA AND ANY IMPACTS TO THE MISSION REACH AND THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT. I CAN BE REACHED AT TWO TEN THREE OH TWO THREE TWO TWO NINE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS ROSEBUD COFFEY. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF MISSION HERITAGE PARTNERS, THE NONPROFIT FRIENDS GROUP FOR THE SAN ANTONIO MISSIONS NATIONAL HISTORICAL PARK. OUR OFFICE ADDRESS IS 6 5 3 9 SAN JOSE DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO ONE FOUR. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 213-6183. THIS IS IN REGARDS TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE. WE ARE REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT UNTIL ALL PARTIES INVOLVED CAN MEET WITH THE APPLICANT. AGAIN, THIS IS IN REGARDS TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE. WE'RE REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT UNTIL ALL PARTIES INVOLVED CAN MEET WITH THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, IF WE CAN CALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE PRESENT TO SPEAK AND SUSAN SNOW, MS. SNOW, IF YOU WOULD. SUSAN SNOW REPRESENTING THE NASHVILLE PARK SERVICE. 2202 ROOSEVELT AVENUE, 7 8 2 1 0. UM, YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD, UM, OUR PARTNER SPEAK BUT I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH CITY STAFF TO PROVIDE THE DEEDS ON THE EASEMENTS AND A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE VERY COMPLICATED OWNERSHIP OF THAT AREA. SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING WITH THE APPLICANT AND COMING BACK TO THE NEXT ZONING MEETING. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH MA'AM. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE SIGNED IN TO SPEAK, SIR. ALRIGHT. UM, THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION WITH RESPECT TO FOUR AND NINE, MR. CHAIR, I'D MAKE A MOTION FOR ITEMS NUMBER FOUR AND NUMBER NINE FOR A CONTINUANCE TO THE MARCH 15TH, 2022 MEETING. ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO MARCH 15TH FOR FOUR AND NINE BY COMMISSIONER SIPES. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALRIGHT, THERE IS A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON. UH, ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, UH, THE MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE TO MARCH 15TH BY COMMISSIONER SIPES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. [00:25:01] MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. STAFF, IF WE COULD MOVE ON NOW TO OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS GENERALLY LOCATED ALONG INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 10 WEST AND VIA LA RA AND IS GOING FROM C THREE ED AND R SIX TO ED. WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME, THERE ARE SIX NOTICES SENT OUT. ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE EXISTING C THREE ED ARE APPROPRIATE FOR ZONING DE DESIGNATIONS FOR THE PROPERTY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE EXISTING R SIX IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED EED IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA AS THE DESIGNATION MATCHES THE EXISTING CHARACTER ALONG THE THIRD FLOOR, WHILE ALSO CONTRIBUTING TO THE PUBLIC POLICY OBJECTIVES OF INCREASING RECREATION AND ENTERTAINMENT OPPORTUNITIES, EXPANDING AND DIVERSIFYING THE LOCAL PO ECONOMY AND, AND FOCUSING GROWTH AND OPPORTUNITIES ALONG THE CORRIDOR AND AROUND REGIONAL CENTERS. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND STALLS. STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE IMPERVIOUS COVER SHALL NOT EXCEED 70%. THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND STAFF IS ALSO AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. RIGHT, THANK YOU. UH, DO WE HAVE THE REPRESENTATIVE SAS PRESENT? I HAVE TWO SEATS UP FRONT. THREE SEATS UP FRONT. UH, MIKE ESCALANTE WITH SAW AQUIFER PROTECTION AND AND EVALUATION SECTION. UH, WE, WE HAVE REVIEWED THE ZONING APPLICATION, LOCAL APPLICATION LOCATED NEAR THE NORTHWEST INTERSECTION OF IH 10 WEST AND NORTH LOOP 1604 TO ALLOW FOR AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT. CURRENTLY THE SITE IS TWO LOTS UNDEVELOPED AND VEGETATED WITH NATIVE TREES AND GROUND COVER. THE LOCATION OF THE SITE IS WITHIN A HIGHWAY TO HIGHWAY, UH, NODAL INTERSECTION, THEREFORE ALLOWING FOR A HIGHER IMPERVIOUS COVER. NO PORTION OF THE SITE IS WITHIN A FLOODPLAIN AND NO SENSITIVE FEATURES WERE OBSERVED ON SITE NOR NOTED ON FILE. UM, AN ABANDONED WELL WAS, UH, NOTED ON SITE SAW IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH ALL ENVIRONMENTAL RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THE REPORT TO INCLUDE 70% PREVIOUS COVER FOR THE 7.5 ACRE SITE. AND THE ABANDONED WELL SHALL BE PROPERLY PLUGGED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. ESCALANTE, IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE? HI, GOOD AFTERNOON. ASHLEY FAIRMONT KILLING GRIFFIN IN FAIRMONT 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE. UM, I I HAVE A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION FOR YOU ALL. UM, I DO WANNA THANK MIKE AND MIKE FOR BEING HERE TODAY AND WORKING WITH US, US ON THIS REQUEST. WE ARE AGREEABLE TO ALL OF SAS'S RECOMMENDATIONS. UM, SO JUST AN OVERVIEW OF, OF WHERE WE ARE. SO HERE'S 1604 AND I 10. ALL OF LA ANDRA IS HERE IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THIS INTERSECTION. THIS ZONING IS KIND OF A CLEANUP. UH, THE REMAINDER OF OF LA ANDRA IS ZONED ED ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT. SO WE HAVE THE, THE FIESTA, TEXAS OBVIOUSLY, AND, AND THE SHOPS AT LA LARA. BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING IN HERE ALONG THE 1604 FRONTAGE ROAD, UH, THE TOWN CENTER AT LARA. AND YOU MAY HAVE ALSO HEARD ABOUT THE HUMAN PERFORMANCE CAMPUS, UH, THAT THE SPURS ARE WORKING ON IN PARTNERING WITH THE COUNTY, UM, AND UNIVERSITY HEALTH. AND SO THAT WILL BE IN THIS AREA HERE. AND THEN THE DONATION OF, OF 22 ACRES OR SO TO THE COUNTY FOR A NEW PARK. SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT SEVEN AND A HALF ACRES HERE TO KIND OF CONTINUE WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE TOWN CENTER. SO HOUSING A MIXTURE OF HOUSING AND COMMERCIAL, UH, RETAIL RESTAURANT TYPE DEVELOPMENT ON THOSE, UM, SEVEN AND A HALF ACRES OR SO. UH, THERE'S, THEY'RE JUST SPECIFICALLY THE PROPERTY WE'RE LOOKING AT. UM, U T S A REGIONAL CENTER PLAN. UM, YOU KNOW, WE WERE INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS AND IN THIS AREA IS OBVIOUSLY KIND OF THE DEFINITION OF A REGIONAL CENTER. SO, UM, WE BELIEVE THE ED IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT. UM, AND THEN YOU CAN JUST SKIP DOWN, UM, AGAIN, SO HERE THIS BLUE IS ALL THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT ZONE AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO ADD THAT TO THAT. UM, AGAIN, FINALLY, HAPPY TO AGREE TO ALL OF SAS'S RECOMMENDATIONS. WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER FOR SOME TIME. I KNOW THERE'S A, A LOT MORE CASES TODAY. SO ANY QUESTIONS? HAPPY TO ANSWER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. FAIRMAN. ANYONE PRESENT TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? NO SIR. ANY VOICEMAILS? NO, SIR. ALRIGHT. EXCELLENT. THIS IS A DISTRICT EIGHT CASE COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. QUESTIONS, UH, NO QUESTIONS. JUST, UM, JUST ONE COMMENT. JUST I DO FEEL THAT THIS DOES FIT THE AREA SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND RECOMMEND, UH, APPROVAL [00:30:01] ON THIS CASE. ALRIGHT. THERE IS A MOTION, UH, FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. IS THERE A SECOND? THANK THEN. ALRIGHT. COMMISSIONER BARDOS. BEAT. COMMISSIONER WHITE, IT IS RACE. GENTLEMEN. UM, UH, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER'S ON MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ALRIGHT, AS I MENTIONED, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS WITH RESPECT TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE. UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE TO MY LEFT. SEEING NONE TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ALRIGHT, THERE BEING NO DISCUSSION. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. YES. COMMISSIONER BOTTLES? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE AYE. MOTION PASS FOR APPROVAL. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. UH, IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS SINA, AKA ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER SIX IS LOCATED 1804 WEST MARTIN STREET. GOING FROM C ONE TO C TWO CD FOR BARD TAVEN WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME. THERE WERE 35 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS IN OPPOSITION. PROSPECT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. THERE IS NO RESPONSE FROM WEST END HOPE AND ACTION NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. PROSPECT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PROVIDED A MAP PETITION OF 15 SIGNATURES. THE EXISTING C ONE LIGHT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR BAR TAVERN IS NOT APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. GIVEN ITS PROXIMITY TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PRESENT AND THE APPLICANT PRESENT, PRESENT. HELLO, GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US BACK. UM, VERONICA, UM, 79 18 OXBOW WAY. MR. RIFF, UH, OFFICER RIFFLE PLEASE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. UM, WE'RE JUST GONNA GO OVER A, A SHORT PRESENTATION. WE JUST HAVE THREE SLIDES A DAY AND I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND LET NATASHA TAKE OVER. OH, HI, MY NAME'S MELANIE. UM, THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, WE HAD SPOKE ABOUT BEING CLOSED MONDAY, TUESDAY, BUT WE WANTED TO KEEP OUR OPTIONS OPEN IN CASE WE HAD LIKE A PRIVATE PARTY OR UM, YOU KNOW, A WORK PARTY OR SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO THROW ON THOSE DAYS, MONDAY, TUESDAY. BUT WE WILL BE CLOSED THOSE DAYS. WE JUST WANT THE OPTION TO BE OPEN IF LATER ON WE WANNA DO THAT. UM, AND THEN FOR SUNDAY, UM, WE WILL BE OPENING EARLY FOR BRUNCH AND EARLY EVENTS AND CLOSING BY MIDNIGHT. BUT WE ALSO WANT THE OPTION TO STAY OPEN TILL 2:00 AM IN CASE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A HOLIDAY THE NEXT DAY AND WE WANNA, YOU KNOW, HAVE THOSE TWO HOURS TO MAKE A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA MONEY. 'CAUSE WE ARE GONNA BE A SMALL BUSINESS. SO, UH, WE JUST WANT THE OPTION TO STAY OPEN TILL 2:00 AM ON A SUNDAY. AND OH, WE UH, WE ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT LIKE THIS IS GONNA BE A VERY SMALL BUSINESS. UM, SMALL BAR. IT'S NOT GONNA BE A CLUB. UM, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR HOURS IS SAN ANTONIO'S PRETTY BIG? UM, INDUSTRY BASED CITY WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, YOU KNOW, HOTELS, BARS, RESTAURANTS, UH, EVERYONE WORKS TILL ABOUT, I'VE WORKED IN THE INDUSTRY FOR 17 YEARS, SO, UM, PEOPLE DON'T GET OUT TILL LIKE 10, 30, 11. SO WE WERE TO CLOSE EARLIER LIKE SAY 12 O'CLOCK. THAT'D ONLY GIVE US AN HOUR FOR THAT CLIENTELE TO COME IN. AND WE'RE NOT HAVING BIG PARTIES DURING THE WEEK. WE'RE HAVING, YOU KNOW, A A JUKEBOX INSIDE WITH PEOPLE COMING TO SIT AT THE BAR AND KIND OF HANGING OUT. THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GO FOR IS THIS BIG OLD PARTY SEVENTIES WEEK KIND OF THING. SO THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED TO REITERATE ON OUR HOURS. UM, THAT'S REALLY IT LOADED. SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO GO OVER THE PARKING. UM, WE DID DISCUSS THE PARKING LOT ACROSS THE STREET WITH THE OWNER. UM, WE WERE IN NEGOTIATIONS THE VERY FIRST TWO TIMES THAT WE CAME AND I WAS ABLE TO, UM, GET A CONTRACT WITH HIM FOR TWO YEARS FOR, UM, SOME PARKING SLOTS. SO WE DID DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE ON SITTING DOWN AND UM, ACTUALLY GETTING A NOTARIZED, UM, PARKING, UM, [00:35:01] CONTRACT WITH HIM FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS. SO OUR NEIGHBOR RIGHT ACROSS, ACROSS THE STREET IS, UM, WILLING TO HELP US OUT. OKAY. SO, UM, WE WERE REAL APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. SO, UM, I DO HAVE A COPY OF IT IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT. OH, AND THEN, UH, THE NEXT SLIDE IS JUST ABOUT SOUND. UH, WE PLAN ON PUTTING SOME PANELING INSIDE. SO ON THOSE DAYS THAT WE DO HAVE A DJ, UM, THEY'RE GONNA BE MAINLY INSIDE. WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ANY, UM, LOUD NOISE OUTSIDE ON THE PATIO WEEKLY, UH, LIKE WE SAID, WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE A JUKEBOX, UH, JUST KEEP IT LOW KEY AND UH, YEAH, UNLESS WE HAVE A MORNING EVENT LIKE DURING BRUNCH OR SOMETHING, THEN WE'LL HAVE SOME MUSIC OUTSIDE. BUT WE'LL DEFINITELY UM, STAY WITHIN THE DECIBEL READINGS FOR THAT. SO DID YOU WANT ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT? THAT IS IT. THAT'S THAT. I THINK WE'VE UM, VERY COVERED EVERYTHING IN THE LAST THREE CONTINUANCE AND UM, THOSE ARE THE LAST THREE THINGS THAT WE NEEDED TO COVER. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ANYONE PRESENT TO SPEAK OR ANY VOICEMAILS? YES SIR. WE HAVE RUSSELL FULLON. MR. FULLON, IF YOU'D INTRODUCE YOURSELF. YEAH, TELL US YOUR ADDRESS, HOW YOU DOING? RUSSELL FULLON, 24 10 WEST COMMERCE. I'M ON THE BOARD OF THE PROSPECT HILL ASSOCIATION WHEN WE HAD OUR MEETING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AND, AND SHE PROPOSED ON THE BAR. WE THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE A BIG BAR, A LOT OF DANCING, A LOT OF STUFF. WE'RE LOOKING AT A BE OCCUPANCY, BE OCCUPANCY IS LESS THAN 50 PEOPLE. UH, WE THOUGHT IT WAS STRANGE TO PUT IT THERE. IT'S NOT THAT BIG, BUT SHE'S NOT LOOKING AT TRYING TO DO A LOT OF PEOPLE. SO IN A BE OCCUPANT, YOU KNOW, 49 OR LESS, UH, IT'S JUST KIND OF LIKE A MINI BAR. SO WE DECIDED TO SUPPORT IT THAT WAY. IT'S NOT TAKING UP A LOT OF PARKING IN THE STREETS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. SHE HAS PARKING NOW ACROSS THE STREET AND ONSITE PARKING. SO WE DECIDED TO SUPPORT THIS. OKAY, THANK YOU MR. FELON. STEVE MARTIN. STEVEN MARTIN, 1 1 5, 1 BLUFF FOREST. I WAS RETAINED BY THE APPLICANT TO PERFORM ALL ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR THIS PROJECT. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE. TO REITERATE WHAT MR. FELLON HAD JUST SAID, UH, THIS IS GOING TO BE BE OCCUPANCY. WE WILL HAVE A LIMIT UNDER 50 OCCUPANTS FOR THIS ESTABLISHMENT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. MARTIN. MARGARET DAY. HELLO, MY NAME IS MARGARET DAY. I'M AT 2 0 6 PINEWOOD LANE. I AM THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS FOR THE SAN ANTONIO PARKS FOUNDATION, OWNER OF SS A T X MUSIC AND AN AVID MEMBER OF THE CYCLING COMMUNITY. AND THAT IS WHY I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. I WANNA BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION HOW CLOSE IT IS TO THE NEWLY DEVELOPED ALLAN CREEK. THERE IS, UM, A TRAILHEAD JUST TWO BLOCKS SOUTH, CLOSE TO THE PARKS AND REC LOCATION AND WE HAVE A LADIES RIDE THAT STARTS AT WOODLAWN ON WEDNESDAYS. WE'VE HISTORICALLY SUPPORTED LIGHTHOUSE AND A LOT OF THE OTHER SMALL BUSINESSES IN THE AREA. WE WOULD REALLY LOVE TO HAVE THIS BUSINESS BE OPEN IN THIS AREA. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PLACES FOR US TO STOP ALONG ALLON CREEK RIGHT NOW, AND IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE A WOMAN-OWNED BUSINESS WHERE WE FEEL SAFE, WE CAN STOP FOR WATER, FOOD, SNACKS, HAVE AN AIR PUMP THERE. UM, JUST HAVE SOME PLACE THAT'S HOSPITABLE TO THE CYCLING COMMUNITY. UM, I PERSONALLY HAVE KNOWN THESE LADIES FOR ALMOST A DECADE THROUGH MY WORK WITH S A T X MUSIC. I'VE KNOWN THEM TO BE REALLY, REALLY GOOD STEWARDS OF COMMUNITY, VERY RESPONSIBLE OPERATORS, AND ALWAYS HAVE APPROPRIATE PROGRAMMING FOR THE SPACES THAT THEY'RE IN AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THEY'RE A PART OF. OUTSIDE OF THAT, I MEAN, THEY'RE GREAT PEOPLE AND, AND I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO HAVE A BUSINESS THERE. WE JUST DID A VALENTINE'S DAY RIGHT ON SUNDAY. WE STARTED IN SOUTH TOWN, WE CAME BACK, WE HAD, YOU KNOW, BRUNCH AT FARM TABLE AND IF SOMEPLACE LIKE THIS WAS OPEN IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WE WOULD STOP THERE AND WE WOULD SPEND MONEY THERE AND WE WOULD STOP AT THE CORNER STORES AND GET WATER AND GET SNACKS AS WE CONTINUE OUR RIDES. UM, CONNECTIVITY IS SUPER IMPORTANT TO US ALONG THE TRAIL SYSTEMS, THE GREENWAY TRAILS. WE'RE NOW AT A PLACE IN THE CYCLING COMMUNITY WHERE WE CAN RIDE 60, 80, ALMOST A HUNDRED MILES ALONG OUR TRAIL SYSTEMS. AND SO HAVING SMALL BUSINESSES WHERE WE CAN STOP, GET SOME FOOD, HAVE A A REST AREA IS SUPER IMPORTANT. AND HAVING THEM BE OPEN LATER IS ALSO FANTASTIC BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PLACES THAT YOU CAN GET FOOD THAT'S OPEN PAST 10:00 PM [00:40:01] SO KNOWING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SERVE FOOD IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT, UM, IS REALLY, REALLY WONDERFUL AND ULTIMATELY, UH, IT WOULD BE FANTASTIC TO HAVE THEM THERE. SO, UM, WE HOPE YOU GUYS WILL CONSIDER THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. DAVE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE SIGNED IN TO SPEAK. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE, SO IT GOES TO ME FOR QUESTIONS IF I COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PRESENT. VERY GOOD. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON OFFICER RIFFLE. GOOD AFTERNOON SIR. UM, ONE THING WE HAD DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY WAS BECAUSE THIS IS A CONDITIONAL USE THAT THERE COULD BE ADDITION, UH, ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS PLACED ON THIS PROPERTY. YES SIR. UM, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING HOURS OF OPERATION, UM, AT THIS POINT, PUTTING ASIDE HOURS OF OPERATION, WHAT OTHER CONDITIONS, UH, DO YOU ANTICIPATE FOR THIS PROPERTY? I THINK YOU DISCUSSED THEM IN THE LAST HE HEARING AND YOU LISTED OUT THE CONDITIONS THAT YOU WERE AGREEABLE TO. DOES THAT SOUND FAMILIAR? ALRIGHT. UH, HOW ABOUT THIS? LET, LET ME GO THROUGH THE LIST. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UH, DOWNWARD FACING LIGHTING. YES. YES. OKAY. UH, PENANT SIGNAGE? NO. PENANT SIGNAGE? CORRECT. OKAY. DEFINITELY. UM, I WOULD NORMALLY SAY NO OUTDOOR AMPLIFICATION, BUT FROM YOUR PRESENTATION IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT WOULD NOT BE AN ACCEPTABLE CONDITION. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. CORRECT SIR. OKAY. UM, THERE MIGHT BE SOME OTHERS THAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS CAN THINK OF, UM, YOU KNOW, BUT IT IS A SMALL SITE, SO SOME OF THE OTHER ONES I THINK MIGHT BE TOO DIFFICULT TO IMPLEMENT AT THIS TIME. UM, ONE THING WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT VERY MUCH OF AND, AND IT HAS WEIGHED HEAVILY ON ME AS I VISITED THE SITE, IS TELL US ABOUT THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY AND THE NEIGHBORING USES, UH, SURROUNDING THIS REZONING REQUEST. WELL, WE HAVE, UM, MADE CONTACT WITH ALL THE NEIGHBORS. WE WENT FROM DOOR TO DOOR AND IT'S NOT LIKE WE JUST WENT OVER THERE AND DID OUR SPIEL. WE DID TRY TO GET TO KNOW THE NEIGHBORS AND, UM, WE WERE TRANSPARENT WITH EVERYBODY AND TOLD 'EM EXACTLY WHAT IS IT THAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO. EVERYBODY WAS ON BOARD. THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY WELCOMING NEIGHBORS, UM, TO BE ABLE TO WELCOME ESTABLISHMENT, TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO, UM, BRING UP THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS WHAT THEY'RE, IS WHAT THEY'VE BEEN SAYING. IT IT IS AN OLD NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT AND THEY'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING SOMETHING TO BE ABLE TO BOOST THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD. NOT ONLY THAT, I KNOW THAT US BEING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WILL HELP CLEAN UP THE AREA A LITTLE BIT. IT IT IS, IT IS NOT A, IT IT'S NOT A, UM, I GUESS WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, D DIFFERENT TYPES OF FOLKS THAT GO THROUGH THERE THAT UM, WE COULD, WE COULD CLEAN IT UP A LITTLE BIT AND JUST, YOU KNOW, HAVING AN OPEN ESTABLISHMENT WHERE THEY SEE PEOPLE, THEY'LL TEND TO TO MOVE ON. AND WHEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF, UH, NEIGHBORS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT ELDERLY, THEY APPRECIATE THAT. THEY DON'T WANT ANY PROBLEMS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU OFFICER RUEL. AT THIS POINT I'M GOING TO OPEN IT, UH, FOR QUESTIONS TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT QUESTIONS, NOT, NOT A QUESTION, BUT MORE OF A COMMENT. WE CAN WAIT UNTIL DISCUSSION. I'M GONNA START IMPLEMENTING THAT RULE AGAIN. QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR STAFF, UM, WHAT THEY MENTIONED WITH RESPECT TO BE OCCUPANCY. CAN YOU GUYS EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS? IT'S A, IT'S A BUILDING CODE DEFINITION RELATED TO HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN BE IN, IN AN AREA, WHETHER IT'S SEATING CAPACITY, UM, IT'S JUST THE NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS IN, IN A SPACE. OKAY. BUT THAT'S NOT TIED TO THE ZONING. THE ZONING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. ZONING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. IT'S JUST ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING AND HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY CAN FIT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER SIPES AND THEN COMMISSIONER HUE AS A FOLLOW UP TO, UH, COMMISSIONER GREAT HOUSE'S QUESTION A BAR IS TYPICALLY A GROUP A TWO ASSEMBLY OCCUPANCY UNLESS IT'S UNDER 50, IN WHICH CASE IT CAN BE CLASSIFIED AS A GROUP B, BUT IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT IT HAS TO BE CLASSIFIED AS A GROUP B. THEY COULD, IT COULD STILL BE CLASSIFIED AS AN A TWO WITH INCREASED OCCUPANCY . AGAIN, IT DOESN'T. SO, AND WHAT, BASICALLY I'M SAYING IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S A GROUP B OR WHAT [00:45:01] BECAUSE IT DOESN'T RELATE TO THE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY. WE'RE, WE'RE NOT LIMITING THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE AT THIS ASSEMBLY. NO, NO YOU'RE NOT. THAT COMES INTO PLAY DURING THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. THAT WAS IT. I THINK THEY WERE JUST TOUCHING THAT. WE WEREN'T LIKE A HUGE CLUB. THANK YOU. THANK YOU . ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER HUE. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. UH, OFFICER RIFFEL, YOU MENTIONED THAT UM, YOU HAD AN AGREEMENT WITH YOUR NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET ON PARKING. HOW MANY PARKING SPACES DID YOU AGREE ON? HE AGREED TO GIVE US 10 PARKING SPOTS. THANK YOU. FOR TWO YEARS. RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN TWO YEARS NEGOTIATION. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALRIGHT, ANYTHING FURTHER? ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL QUESTIONS? YES. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. SO, UM, I, I GUESS THE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT WITH REGARD TO YOUR PARKING THAT YOU'VE JUST LINED UP AND KUDOS FOR DOING THAT, BUT NOT TRYING TO GET THE CART BEF I MEAN THE HORSE, HELLO, THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. DO YOU KNOW IF THE PROPERTY WHERE HE IS OFFERING YOU THE PARKING IS ZONED TO ALLOW FOR THAT? I GUESS THAT'S JUST A QUESTION FOR YOU TO DO YOUR DILIGENCE ON BEFORE YOU SIGN. UM, THE OTHER THING THAT CAUSES ME CONCERN, IF YOU CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE OUTDOOR SPEAKERS, THE AMPLIFICATION OUTSIDE GOING TO 2:00 AM I UNDERSTAND THE BUSINESS SIDE OF IT, BUT I'M ALSO RESPECTFUL OF THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE OF IT AND WANTING TO KNOW THAT IT, YOU KNOW, WILL NOT BE SO LOUD OR INTRUSIVE TO ANYONE TRYING TO GET A, A GOOD NIGHT'S SLEEP. YES MA'AM. YES MA'AM. I TOTALLY AGREE. UM, YOU KNOW, I WORK FULL TIME. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO WORK. WE ARE PLANNING TO BE RESPECTFUL TO OUR FELLOW NEIGHBORS AND RESIDENTS AND TO THE COMMUNITY AND UM, THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, UM, THE ACOUSTIC PANELS FOR THE SOUND AND THE INSIDE AND MAKE SURE THAT THE SPEAKERS ARE POINTED INSIDE AND THE LIGHTING SO THAT WAY IT DOESN'T DISTURB THE NEIGHBORS. AS UM, NATASHA SAID EARLIER, IT ISN'T LIKE WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING DJS LATE AT NIGHT OUTSIDE. IT IS GONNA BE LIKE A JUKEBOX MUSIC INSIDE OR WE WILL HAVE A DJ INSIDE. IF YOU GO INSIDE, WE CAN PUT 'EM IN THE CORNER, UM, IN, IN CLOSE QUARTERS. SO, UM, YES, THAT, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE RESPECT FOR OUR FELLOW NEIGHBORS. OKAY. UM, I I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE, AND I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR NEED TO BE OPEN AS MANY HOURS AS YOU CAN, BUT, UH, NONSTOP GOING TO 2:00 AM JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD GETS A BREAK AT ALL. UM, SO I'M, I'M KIND OF ON THE FENCE ABOUT THAT OPERATING TO 2:00 AM EVERY DAY, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UM, I GUESS THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF. IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN LIMIT OUTDOOR AMPLIFICATION BY TIME? I THINK THE ANSWER IS NO, BUT I JUST WANT CONFIRMATION ON THAT. YOU'RE CORRECT SIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR ONCE. I'M RIGHT. UM, OKAY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? ALRIGHT, UM, SO THIS CASE IS INTERESTING, UM, AND IT'S CLOSE AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS FRANKLY A GOOD RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL. UM, BUT HAVING GONE TO THIS SITE, HAVING SEEN IT AND YOU KNOW, HAVING GONE DOWN MARTIN STREET FROM ABOUT THE RAILROAD TRACKS TOWARDS THE CREEK, UM, IF I WERE ABLE TO RESTART THIS, THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF BUSINESS I WOULD WANT IN THIS AREA. UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS WOULD BE A GOOD MIXED USE, SLIGHTLY MORE INTENSIVE USE THAN IS CURRENTLY THERE. THERE WAS NO PLAN AMENDMENT REQUIRED FOR THIS USE, SO IT WOULD BE IN LINE WITH THE FUTURE USE. BUT WHAT TRULY MAKES ME WANT TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT, UH, WAS GOING OUT AND VISITING WITH Y'ALL THIS PAST FRIDAY. AND AS WE'RE WALKING DOWN SMITH STREET, UH, SEEING INTRAVENOUS NEEDLES ON THE STREET, THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS HAVING SOME ISSUES AND PUTTING THIS BUSINESS IN PLACE. I THINK ONE WILL GET MAYBE A JUMPSTART TO HAVE THIS AREA IN LINE WITH ITS FUTURE USE AS INDICATED BY THE PLANNING DOCUMENTS. AND TWO, HELP IT RECOVER FROM WHAT APPEARS TO BE PRETTY CLEARLY, UH, [00:50:01] ILLEGAL USES AND, AND THINGS THAT WE DON'T WANT ANYONE I HOPE DOESN'T WANT IN THEIR COMMUNITY. SO WITH THAT PREFACE, I'M GOING TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER, UH, SIX WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. UH, DOWNWARD FACING LIGHTING, NO PENANCE, NO POLE SIGNS, AND THAT IS IT. SO I MOVE FOR APPROVAL WITH THOSE CONDITIONS. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND THEN. OKAY. I'M GO WITH COMMISSIONER WHITE 'CAUSE HE'S BEEN CHAMPIONING AT THE BIT TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. , UH, ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER BOTTLES. YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU, UH, LADIES, FOR BEING SO PATIENT WITH THE PROCESS. UH, I THINK YOU ALL HAVE MET EVERY REQUIREMENT. YOU ALL VISITED WITH THE NEIGHBORS, UH, YOU TOOK THE TIME TO DO ALL THAT. NOT ONLY THAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING, YOU ALL WENT AND VISITED AND SECURE PARKING. UH, AND I UNDERSTAND SMALL BUSINESS VERY, VERY WELL. SO I WILL, UH, VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BARTOS COMMISSIONERS. TO MY LEFT FURTHER DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER WHITE. YEAH, I ECHO THOSE SET SENTIMENTS OF, UH, COMMISSIONER BARROS, GREAT JOB WORKING ON THIS. VERY PERSISTENT AND, UM, WISH YOU ALL GOOD LUCK AND JUST PAY ATTENTION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, UH, TO THE EXTENT THERE ARE CONCERNS MOVING FORWARD, TRY TO TRY TO MEET THOSE CONCERNS AND, AND DO WHAT YOU CAN, BUT HAPPY THAT YOU ALL STUCK WITH IT. COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, THANKS. UM, THIS IS A DIFFICULT CASE FOR ME, UM, IN, IN, IN SEVERAL REGARDS. I, I DO WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR COMING OUT AND, YOU KNOW, FOR YOUR ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE DOING TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY A BETTER PLACE. THE THING THAT MAKES THIS DIFFICULT FOR ME, TWO THINGS THAT MAKE THIS DIFFICULT FOR ME, UM, AND, AND THE BACKGROUND ON THAT IS DISTRICT ONE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE FIGHTING ST. MARY'S STRIP AND ALL THE ISSUES THERE, RIGHT? AND THAT'S A BIG CONCERN I MENTIONED LAST TIME. I DON'T LIVE CLOSE TO THIS STRIP. I LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MAIN STREET PRETTY FAR NORTH, PROBABLY THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE I CAN HEAR ON SUNDAY NIGHTS AT ONE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. I CAN HEAR THE STRIP IN MY BEDROOM. SO IT'S A BIG CONCERN AND IT'S A BIG CONCERN FOR ME FOR THESE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE HERE. SO THE FACT THAT THERE IS NO TIME LIMITATION ON THE HOURS OF HOUR, HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THIS PROJECT, AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT THERE IS OUTDOOR AMPLIFICATION IS A REALLY BIG ISSUE TO ME. AGAIN, I'M A PERSON WHO LIKES TO GO TO BARS, I LIKE TO HANG OUT, I LOVE LIVE MUSIC, I LOVE DJS, BUT WHEN IT'S TIME TO SLEEP AND GO TO BED, I KNOW EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT, RIGHT? AND, AND, AND YOU GUYS MAY, MAY BE GREAT OPERATORS, BUT IN THE FUTURE WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU'RE SUPER SUCCESSFUL AND YOU SELL THIS TO SOMEONE AND THEY OPERATE IT AND THEY DON'T OPERATE IT IN THE SAME MANNER, OR IF YOU'RE NOT SUCCESSFUL, WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE? SO THOSE ARE THE CONCERNS THAT, THAT I'M GONNA BE WEIGHING IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THE THINGS THAT COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, CHAIR BUSANTE MENTIONED ABOUT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND ABOUT THE FACT THAT IT NEEDS TO GROW. SO IT, FOR ME, IT IS A DIFFICULT CASE AND I AM ON THE FENCE. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE AND NO ONE FOR THE RECORD IS ACCUSING YOU OF BEING NO FUND , UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER SIPES, I AGREE WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, THIS IS A DIFFICULT CASE. I I DO, UH, THANK YOU FOR GETTING THE, UH, THE PARKING AGREEMENT. UM, THE SKETCH THAT I SAW REALLY, REALLY HELPED, UM, WITH THAT ASPECT. UM, AND FOR ME, THE, IT'S IT'S THE OUTSIDE AMPLIFICATION. THAT'S THE ONLY THING KEEPING ME FROM FULLY SUPPORTING THE PROJECT AT, AT THIS TIME. SO IT, YES, IT'S A DIFFICULT DECISION. YES, SIR. COMMISSIONER WHEAT. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. SO AGAIN, I WANT TO AMPLIFY MY, UH, FELLOW COMMISSIONER'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE OUTDOOR SPEAKERS AND AMPLIFICATION. UM, UH, NOT TOO CRAZY ABOUT HAVING A BAR IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT ALSO UNDERSTAND THERE'S A NEED FOR, UH, REVITALIZATION AS, UH, A CHAIR BUSANTE HAD MENTIONED. SO I'M ON THE FENCE. YES, SIR. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, GOOD FENCES. MAKE GOOD NEIGHBORS. UM, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL DISCUSSION. ALRIGHT, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU, SHOULD THIS GO FORWARD ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, UH, WE HAVE NOT HAD A ROLL CALL VOTE WHILE I'M VAMPING TO GIVE COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL TIME, [00:55:01] UM, IS OKAY, I'M BACK. OKAY, THERE WE GO. IF YOU CAN HEAR ME. THANK YOU. SORRY. GOT KICKED OUT THERE. SO IT, IT'S THE SAME AS I ASKED OR MENTIONED A WHILE AGO. MY CONCERN IS, AND, AND EVEN YOU'VE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT YOU SPOKE WITH A LOT OF THE ELDERLY IN THE AREA AND I APPLAUD YOU FOR WANTING TO MAKE THIS COMMUNITY BETTER AND I DO SUPPORT THAT EFFORT. I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT, AGAIN, THEM ABLE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME TIME OR THEY COULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF RELIEF FROM THE NOISE AT NIGHT. AND AGAIN, YOUR INTENTIONS ARE PERFECT AND FINE, BUT JUST AS THE OTHER COMMISSIONER SAID, I'M THINKING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL, WHEN YOU NEED TO EXPAND YOUR BUSINESS, WHAT HAPPENS THEN TO THE PROPERTY AND THE PERSON OR THE COMPANY THAT COMES BEHIND, THEY MAY NOT BE SO RESPECTFUL OF THAT COMMUNITY. SO ACTUALLY I'D LIKE TO ASK THE COMMISSIONER IF YOU WOULD TAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO POSSIBLY MODIFY THE HOURS OF OPERATION AT LEAST FROM MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY AND MAYBE MAKE THAT MORE OF A FORD, A MIDNIGHT, AN EIGHT HOUR OPENING, OR EVEN OPENING IT A LITTLE EARLIER IN THE AFTERNOON, BUT AT LEAST CUTTING THAT OFF SO IT'S NOT SO MUCH INTO THE WEE HOURS OF THE MORNING. SO THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, WHICH I'VE NOT ACCEPTED YET, IS FOUR TO MIDNIGHT. MIDNIGHT, SURE. MM-HMM . AND THAT'S FROM WHAT, FROM MONDAY TO THURSDAY. OKAY. CORRECT, . SO THE, UH, OKAY, THIS IS THE ONLY THING. SO WE WERE JUST HAD THE FULL SEVEN DAYS, RIGHT? CORRECT. WE DON'T PLAN ON BEING OPEN SEVEN DAYS. WE JUST WANTED TO HAVE THE OPTION TO BE OPEN, LIKE, LIKE I SAID, ON A SUNDAY NIGHT. UM, THERE'S SEVEN HOLIDAYS THAT LAND ON MONDAY, SO WE DIDN'T WANNA CUT OFF OUR SUNDAYS BECAUSE THAT'S THAT NIGHT, THAT SUNDAY NIGHT PEOPLE WERE GONNA GO OUT AND HANG OUT BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL OFF ON MONDAYS. WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY GONNA BE OPEN UNTIL 2:00 AM ON A SUNDAY NIGHT. WE JUST WANT TO HAVE THE OPTION AVAILABLE. ALRIGHT. THAT'S THE PLAN. SO I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA READ THAT AS A NO, AND, AND YOU KNOW, IN LIGHT OF THAT, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS AND, UH, IN THIS CASE I WANT TO LEAVE THE MOTION AS IS. SO I DO NOT ACCEPT THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AND IF WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER MOTION, SHOULD THIS ONE FAIL, WE CAN DO THAT. UM, OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ANY, ANYTHING FURTHER? DID WE LOSE COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL AGAIN? NO, I'M HERE. OKAY. UM, I, I WILL STAND BY TO SEE, UM, I, I AM HAVING PROBLEMS SUPPORTING THIS MOTION JUST BECAUSE OF THAT. I JUST CAN'T DO THAT TO THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. AND AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND, UM, THE CONCERNS REGARDING THE COMMUNITY. UM, YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT IS CAUSING, I THINK SOME CONSTERNATION TO ME, AND, AND I THINK FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM THE COUNCIL OFFICE AS WELL, IS, YOU KNOW, WE ARE HAVING, UH, FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE, SOME SAYING REPRESENTING THAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE IN FAVOR LIKE YOU DO. AND SOME SAYING THE NEIGHBORS ARE OPPOSED, AS DOES, UH, THE GARDENDALE NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATION. SO I WOULD WORK TO CLARIFY THAT FOR THE COUNCIL NO MATTER WHAT AS YOU GO BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL. UH, THAT BEING SAID, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. VERY GOOD. UM, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER SIX WITH THE TWO CONDITIONS AS READ ON THE RECORD BY ME. UH, WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITE ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. CHAIR BUSHE. AYE. UH, COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE? NO. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? NO. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? NO. COMMISSIONER SIPES? NO. IT'S A ONE. SIX SIX. MOTION PASSES. MOTION PASSES. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOOD LUCK TO Y'ALL. PLEASE REMEMBER HOW CONCERNED WE WERE ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS AND BE GOOD STEWARDS AND GOOD NEIGHBORS. TAKE CARE. THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE ALL TIME. GODS SPEED TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BEFORE YOU START, SIR, IS WE'RE, ARE YOU READY TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM? I'M SORRY. YOU READY TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN? WE ARE, WE ARE PLANNING ON MOVING ON TO ITEM SEVEN. I WOULDN'T MIND TAKING A LITTLE BREAK RIGHT NOW IF WE YEAH, DO THAT BEFORE YOU DO. LET ME MAKE A QUICK ANNOUNCEMENT. THIS [01:00:01] WILL ALLOW ME TO DO SOMETHING. UM, I HAVE, UH, QUITE A FEW PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE FOR ITEM SEVEN AND THERE'S QUITE A FEW PEOPLE HERE. UH, FOR THE PEMBROKE CASE, I NEED 10 MORE CHAIRS IN ORDER TO FIT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE FOR THE NEXT CASE. SO FOR THOSE THAT ARE HERE FOR THE PEMBROKE CASE, UM, WHEN WE TAKE A BREAK, IF I COULD HAVE Y'ALL STAY IN THE LOBBY, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO LISTEN, UH, UH, ON THE TV AND THEN ONCE THE, THE, THE NEXT CASE IS COMPLETE, THEN Y'ALL CAN COME BACK IN. THERE'LL BE PLENTY OF CHAIRS. SO IF WE COULD DO THAT, THAT WAY WE SIT THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE OUTSIDE IN HERE. THANK YOU. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. UM, SO WE CAN PLAY MUSICAL CHAIRS AND GET READY FOR, I THINK WHAT'S GONNA BE A LONG SLOG. WE ARE IN RECESS. THE TIME IS 2 0 4. THANK YOU. WE ARE IN RECESS FOR APPROXIMATELY FIVE MINUTES. ALRIGHT, UH, WE'VE GONE A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN I ANTICIPATED. UH, IF ALL THE COMMISSIONERS SAVE, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE CAN RETURN TO THEIR SEATS. AND MS. HERNANDEZ, IF YOU WOULD STOP DISTRACTING COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE. . COMMISSIONER BOTTLES, IF WE COULD RETURN TO OUR SEATS, PLEASE. OH MY GOSH, THAT'S IT. I HAVE TO PULL OUT THE HAMMER. WE ARE GOING BACK INTO SESSION. THE TIME IS TWO 12. UH, WE ARE RETURNING FROM RECESS AND UM, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS RECUSED HERSELF FOR THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. IF WE COULD HAVE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, READ INTO THE RECORD PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS SUMMER MCCANN ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS LOCATED AT 2318 CASTROVILLE ROAD. GOING FROM MF 33 MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT TO C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A HUMAN SERVICES CAMPUS WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. THERE WERE 63 NOTICES MAILED EIGHT IN FAVOR, SIX IN OPPOSITION. WESTWOOD SQUARE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED. LOS CARDENAS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED. THERE WERE 159, UH, IN FAVOR OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET. 32 OPPOSED OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET. THE EXISTING MF 33 MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE REQUESTED C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR HUMAN SERVICES CAMPUS IS NOT A, IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS NOT APPROPRIATE GIVEN THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, GIVEN THAT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ABUTTING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS TO THE SOUTH. ADDITIONALLY, THERE ARE NEIGHBORING R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ZONINGS TO THE EAST AND THE PROPOSED USE WOULD NOT BE CONSISTENT WITH DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT. THANK YOU. UH, VERY GOOD. UH, IF THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS PRESENT. HELLO? YES, MR. CHAIR COMMISSIONERS CAROLINE MCDONALD WITH BROWN AND ORTIZ ONE 12 EAST PECAN SUITE 1360 HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. THE Y W C A, UM, WE COULD GO TO SLIDE TWO. UM, AS SUMMER MENTIONED, UH, THE SITE IS ABOUT NINE ACRES. WE'RE INSIDE HIGHWAY 1 51 AND HIGHWAY 90. IT'S THE FORMER ST. ANDREW'S CONVENT. NEXT SLIDE. UM, YOU'LL SEE HERE THE SITE IS ZONED MF 33. UM, IT IS IN THE WEST SECTOR PLAN AND DESIGNATED AS GENERAL URBAN TIER. THEREFORE, A PLAN AMENDMENT WAS NOT NECESSARY. I'LL NOTE HERE THAT THERE ARE ABOUT NINE RESIDENCES, UH, DIRECTLY ABUTTING THE BACK OF OUR PROPERTY. BUT HERE ON SOUTHWEST 35TH, UH, THESE HOMES ACTUALLY FRONT OLGA STREET. UM, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE WE HAVE A MIXTURE OF C THREE I ONE, C TWO, C THREE AND OH ONE. UM, SURROUNDING US, UH, THE PROPOSED ZONING IS, UH, C TWO CD AND WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD THE, THE NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES TO THE ZONING DISTRICT. UM, THIS WILL ALLOW FOR THE Y W C A TO OPEN A WOMEN'S LIVE AND LEARN CENTER. UM, BRIEFLY, THE LIVE AND LEARN CENTER WILL ALLOW FOR RESIDENTIAL UNITS AS THE PRIMARY USE, UM, BUT ALSO HAVE EDUCATIONAL TRAINING, JOB AND FINANCIAL TRAINING. AND THEN, UH, THEY DO WILL CONTINUE THE EXISTING OPERATIONS FROM THEIR OLGA MADRID CENTER, WHICH IS CHILDCARE. NEXT SLIDE. I AM GONNA CALL UP, UH, THE C E O OF, UH, Y W C A TO JUST GIVE A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF, UH, WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND WHAT THEY PLAN TO DO HERE. HI. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. I'M FRANCESCA RE, C E O OF Y W C A Y W C A HAS BEEN IN SAN ANTONIO FOR 110 YEARS AND ON THE E ON THE WEST SIDE FOR, UH, 45. [01:05:01] AND OUR MISSION HAS BEEN THE SAME AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE THE SAME. TO ELIMINATE RACISM AND EMPOWER WOMEN. WE DO THIS BY ELIMINATING BARRIER BARRIERS FOR WOMEN'S INDEPENDENT FINANCIAL INDEPENDENCE, CHILDCARE AND YOUTH SERVICES, ECONOMIC EMPOWERMENT AND FINANCIAL LITERACY, ACCESS TO HEALTH. AND, UM, WE ALSO ADVOCATE FOR RACIAL JUSTICE AND GENDER EQUITY. THE WOMEN'S LIVE AND LEARN CENTER WOULD ELIMINATE YET ANOTHER BARRIER THAT WOMEN FACE AS THEY TRY TO BECOME INDEPENDENT, WHICH IS HOUSING. WE'VE ENVISIONED A WOMEN'S EDUCATIONAL CAMPUS. AND WHEN THIS, UH, PROPERTY BECAME AVAILABLE, IT, IT FIT EVERYTHING THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR. IT WILL HAVE 24 UNITS FOR WOMEN TO LIVE. WE WILL PROVIDE JOB TRAINING ON SITE CHILDCARE FOR WOMEN WHO ARE LIVING THERE. AND, UH, THEY WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE, UH, EITHER IN SCHOOL, IN COLLEGE, OR UH, JOB TRAINING. WE'LL BE SERVING YOUNG WOMEN AGES 17 TO 25, WHO ARE AGING OUT OF FOSTER CARE, OR WHO ARE DISCONNECTED YOUTH, UH, OF WHICH, UH, AGING OUT OF FOSTER CARE. IN SAN ANTONIO, THERE ARE 600 YOUTH. EACH YEAR, THERE ARE 35,000 DISCONNECTED YOUTH. AND ESTIMATE ABOUT HALF OF THOSE ARE, ARE WOMEN, AND WE WILL BE SERVING THOSE WITH OUR, OUR CENTER. THERE ARE THREE PHASES OF DEVELOPMENT, AND WE'RE IN THE FIRST, WHICH IS PRE-DEVELOPMENT, UH, GETTING THROUGH ZONING AND ACQUISITION. PHASE TWO WOULD BE THE REHAB OF THE EXISTING PROPERTY, UH, REPAIRS THAT WE HAVE NOTED, UH, DURING THE, UH, UH, A PURCHASING PROCESS AND UPGRADES TO THE MAIN FACILITY. PHASE THREE IS A MASTER PLAN THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY, WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, ELECTED OFFICIALS, LOCAL, UH, BUSINESS OWNERS, PLUS THE WOMEN WHO WOULD ACTUALLY BE WORKING IN OUR, OR LIVING IN OUR, IN OUR CENTER. SO THAT LAST PIECE, THE MASTER PLAN IS A CO-CREATION IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY. THERE'S SEVERAL EXAMPLES AROUND THE WORLD. Y W C A CENTRAL ALABAMA, UM, ACTUALLY PURCHASED A BLOCK IN THE MIDDLE OF BIRMINGHAM. AND ONE OF THOSE CENTERS IS A WOMEN'S CAMPUS, UM, THAT PROVIDES SEMI-PERMANENT HOUSING FOR YOUNG WOMEN TO BECOME STABILIZED SO THEY CAN CONTINUE THEIR EDUCATION. UH, STATISTICS SHOW THAT ABOUT 83% OF GRADUATES HAVE GONE ON TO OWN THEIR OWN HOME OR RENT THEIR OWN HOME AND INCREASE THEIR INCOME. SO, UM, AT THIS TIME, I AM PROUD TO, UM, SAY MORE ABOUT THIS, THIS PRO, UH, PROGRAM, OR ASK MY, TURN IT OVER TO CAROLINE. OKAY. TURN IT BACK FOR JUST A MOMENT. BUT SHE'S AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AS ARE, UH, SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE. UH, NEXT SLIDE. SO, UM, AS FRANCESCA MENTIONED THIS, THIS IS A, A, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. SO RIGHT NOW, THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN. THIS WILL BE LOCKED IN WITH THE ZONING. ANY CHANGES HERE, AS, AS EVERYONE KNOWS, SIGNIFICANT CHANGES WILL HAVE TO COME BACK. BUT YOU'LL SEE HERE THE CONVENT IS HASHED OUT IN GRAY. THE EXISTING BUILDINGS THEY'RE HOPING TO REHABILITATE AND PUT IN THOSE 24 WOMEN TO LIVE, UH, LIVE IN, UH, WE ARE PROPOSING A 50 FOOT SETBACK, UH, ON THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY RIGHT NOW. 30 FEET IS REQUIRED. UM, THE EXISTING ENTRANCE AND EXIT WILL STAY THE SAME. THERE'S A TYPE B LANDSCAPE BUFFER, EXISTING WOODEN FENCE ALONG THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE, AND THEN CHAIN LINK AROUND THE REMAINDER. UM, AND, AND THAT WILL ALL BE TIED TO THE SITE PLAN. UH, NEXT SLIDE. SO, WHY THE HUMAN SERVICE CAMPUS? I KNOW A LOT OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS, UM, WITH THIS DESIGNATION, AND IT'S UNFORTUNATELY THE ONLY DESIGNATION THAT WE HAVE FOR THE YWCA'S PROPOSED USE. UM, YOU'LL SEE HERE THERE ARE, I THINK ABOUT NINE USES DESCRIBED IN THE HUMAN SERVICE CAMPUS. THE ONES THAT, UM, ARE UNDERLINED REALLY AT THE BOTTOM ARE WHAT THE Y W C A IS USING. SO IT'S NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, ALCOHOL OR DRUG ABUSE SERVICES, NO ANIMAL CARE FACILITIES OR SHELTER SERVICES. UM, AND DESPITE SOME OF THE BUZZ THAT'S BEEN GOING AROUND THAT WE'VE HEARD IN THE COMMUNITY THROUGH BLOCK WALKING AND CHURCH SERVICES, THIS IS NOT A HOMELESS SHELTER. UM, WE DO BELIEVE THE CODE NEEDS REVISION. THIS, THIS HAS BEEN IN HERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND THE WORLD HAS ADAPTED, USES HAVE ADAPTED, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. WE ARE PRIMARILY A RESIDENTIAL USE. UM, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THE COMMERCIAL USE IS WHAT WE HAVE TO GO WITH TODAY. UH, NEXT SLIDE. I'M GONNA BE BRIEF ON THIS SLIDE SO SUSAN DOESN'T YELL AT ME. UM, BUT TO COMBAT THE COMMERCIAL, UH, DESIGNATION WE HAVE HERE, AND IN WORKING WITH, WITH THE HOAS, WE ARE RESTRICTING, I THINK IT'S ABOUT 26 USES THAT ARE ALLOWED UNDER THE C TWO ZONING DISTRICT. AND YOU CAN HEAR THAT, SEE [01:10:01] THEM HERE. ALRIGHT, MS. MCDONALD, SO MS. GWEN DOESN'T YELL AT ME. IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE BECAUSE, UH, THE ZONING COMMISSION DOES NOT DEAL WITH RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS AND THEY ARE NOT ENFORCEABLE BY THE CITY OR THIS COMMISSION. SO, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, NEXT SLIDE. UM, SO I WANNA ADDRESS BRIEFLY THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL. THE HUMAN SERVICE CAMPUS IS A, IS A DIFFICULT USE TO ANALYZE. UM, AND THE PROPOSED ZONING IS ALSO DIFFICULT. AND SO WHILE I DO RE RESPECT STAFF, I, YOU KNOW, RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATION. AND, AND HERE ARE A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES WHY HERE, AS A HUMAN SERVICE CAMPUS IN DISTRICT SEVEN, I THINK IT'S REALLY CLOSE TO OAKLAND ESTATES OR RIGHT WITHIN IT, IT WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2014. STAFF WAS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. CITY COUNCIL APPROVED WELL WITHIN A NEIGHBORHOOD, WELL WITHIN AND ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL USES. UM, IT'S QUITE A LARGE TRACT, BUT OUR TRACT IS FAIRLY LARGE FOR THE AREA THAT IT'S IN AS WELL. UM, STAFF FOUND NO ADVERSE IMPACTS NEXT TO THE RE, THE R SIX AND THE MULTIFAMILY. UM, I THINK THAT OUR USE IN OUR PROPOSED ZONING HAS A SIMILAR NATURE WITH NO ADVERSE IMPACTS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS ON THE SITE PLAN. NEXT SLIDE. UM, ANOTHER EXAMPLE, ALTHOUGH A LITTLE DIFFERENT, UM, DISTRICT TWO CASE BACK IN 2019, HUMAN SERVICE CAMPUS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL, UM, BY STAFF AND RE APPROVED BY COUNSEL. AGAIN, NO EVIDENCE OF LIKELY IMPACT NEXT TO THE MF 33 OR THE R SIX THAT IS ACROSS THE STREET. THERE IS A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL AROUND US, I WILL ADMIT THAT. BUT WE ALSO HAVE INDUSTRIAL NEXT TO US. WE HAVE C THREE NEXT TO US. UM, LIKE THESE TWO CASES, UM, WE HAVE SIMILAR SURROUNDING LAND USES AND WE ARE OFFERING, UH, YOU KNOW, SETBACKS, BUFFERS ON THE SITE PLAN TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CONCERNS. MOREOVER, WE ARE A RESIDENTIAL USE BY NATURE, PRIMARILY A RESIDENTIAL USE. WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE THIS COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION. NEXT SLIDE. I WANTED TO BRIEFLY TOUCH ON OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH. UM, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS, UM, WITH BOTH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT WE WERE HERE ON FEBRUARY 1ST AND WE DID REQUEST A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL MEETINGS. SO WE'VE HAD TWO VIRTUAL MEETINGS JANUARY 13TH, JANUARY 27TH, WHICH LED TO SOME OF THE FURTHER NEGOTIATIONS. UM, WE CONTINUED LAST TIME TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL MEETING ON FEBRUARY 8TH, WHICH WAS SET UP, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS CANCELED ON US. UM, WE HAD OUR OPEN HOUSE LAST SATURDAY. US YOU KNOW, BLOCK WALKED, PASSED OUT. FLYERS INVITED EVERYONE. I'LL ADMIT IT WASN'T WELL ATTENDED. UM, BUT I THINK IT, IT IS PROGRESSING THE, THE CONVERSATION. UM, WE ALSO ATTENDED THE IGNITING THE HARVEST CHURCH, UH, SERVICES ON SUNDAY THE 13TH. UM, THERE WAS OVER OVERWHELMING SUPPORT AND ABOUT 95 SIGNATURES OBTAINED AT THAT MEETING. UM, WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING SCHEDULED FOR THIS SATURDAY. MORE THAN HAPPY TO ATTEND. UM, AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS A THANK YOU. UH, THIS IS A LITTLE HARD TO READ, UM, BUT I'LL SUM IT UP FOR EVERYONE ON OUR BLOCK WALKING. WE NOTICED THAT THIS WAS BEING PASSED AROUND BEFORE WE GOT THERE. UM, BASICALLY EXPLAINING THAT IT IS A HOMELESS SHELTER. THAT'S COMING MY UP. THAT IS YOUR TIME, MS. MCDONALD. ALRIGHT, I'M PRETTY MUCH DONE. BUT THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE GREEN, UM, AND APPROVAL. UM, IF YOU CAN, SO I KNOW THERE'S SOME OPPOSITION HERE, I'D LIKE TO REQUEST REBUTTAL. YOU'LL, YOU WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL. THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. MCDONALD. THANK YOU. BUT THAT IS YOUR TIME. UM, ALRIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY VOICEMAILS ON THIS CASE? UH, WE DO. UM, I WANNA DO 'EM AT, I WANNA DO 'EM AFTER IN CASE THERE. I WAS GONNA SAY, YEAH, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING TO SEE IF WE HAVE ANY DUPLICATE. ABSOLUTELY. LET'S, LET'S GET THE LIST OF SPEAKERS AND THAT WAY WE CAN ELIMINATE THE VOICEMAILS. THAT MIGHT BE REDUNDANT, RIGHT? THANK YOU. AGGIE JARAMILLO OR A AN NO, IT'S NOT, NO, IT'S AGGIE. AGGIE JARAMILLO. OKAY. MS. JARAMILLO IS GIVING HER TIME TO MS. PENA. VELMA PENA. MS. PENA, RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE FOUR MIN, I'M SORRY. SIX MINUTES. UM, IS ANYONE ELSE GONNA GIVE YOU THEIR TIME? YES MA'AM. YOUR NAME PLEASE. MY NAME IS . GREAT. THANK YOU. MS. DIAZ IS GIVING AN ADDITIONAL THREE MINUTES TO MS. PENA. MS. PENA, YOU WILL HAVE NINE MINUTES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. CHAIR. MY NAME'S VELMA PENA. I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE WESTWOOD SQUARE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND ALSO LEAD THE WESTSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION'S COALITION. FIRST, I'M GONNA MAKE [01:15:01] SOME COMMENTS, UM, BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER, UH, REGARDING THE, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT, UM, MC, MS. MCCANNON CAME UP HERE AND SET OF THE OPPOSES AND THE FAVOR. AND, UM, WE ALSO BLOCKED WALKED. SO WE ALS WE GOT A LOT OF SIGNATURES AS WELL. UM, AND TALKED TO THE COMMUNITY. WE DID NOT GO ACROSS THE STREET TO THE CHURCH. WE WENT TO THE IMMEDIATE AREA THAT, UH, WHERE THIS, UH, THE NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE RIGHT IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA. AND THEY'RE ALL VERY OPPOSED TO THIS, UM, ZONING CASE. AND SO, UH, WE WERE MAKING SURE THAT WE WERE TALKING TO THEM AND LETTING THEM KNOW WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN. AND SO THEY'RE THE ONES, THE NEIGHBORS WERE THE ONES THAT SAID THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE ANOTHER HAVEN FOR HOPE BECAUSE MS. UH, RATRAY DID A MEDIA TOUR. AND THROUGH THAT MEDIA TOUR, SHE, YOU KNOW, SAID THAT WE WERE AGGRESSIVE AND THAT WE WERE NIMBYS. AND SO WHEN THAT CAME OUT IN THE NEWS, WE HADN'T EVEN GONE YET TO THE, TO THE COMMITTEE, TO THE COMMUNITY. AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT TOLD US, YEAH, WE SAW IT IN THE NEWS. WHAT IS THIS GONNA BE? THEY'RE SAYING THAT. AND SO WE TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT IT'S A ZONING CASE, YOU KNOW, MF 30, WE TRIED TO EXPLAIN ALL THAT. AND THEY DID GET THE FORMS IN THE MAIL. 'CAUSE THEY DID TELL ME THAT THEY DID GET THE FORMS IN THE MAIL, BUT THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANT IN THAT LITTLE PORTION. SO WE TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO THEM. AND OUT OF ALL THE MEMBERS, I MEAN, I'M SORRY, ALL THE NEIGHBORS THAT WE SPOKE TO, ONLY ONE SAID YES. SO I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED AS TO WHO SAID YES AND WHO SAID NO. DID THEY CHANGE THEIR MIND AFTER WE, WE BLOCK WALKED AND THEY GO THERE. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE, BUT EITHER WAY, I'M REPRESENTING THIS DECISION IS NOT MY DECISION BY MYSELF. THIS IS A DECISION THAT'S WITH FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WITH THE COMMUNITY ASKING ME TO REPRESENT THEM. WE DO NOT HAVE LOBBYISTS. WE DO NOT HAVE PAID BLOCK WALKERS. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE THAT BELONG TO THE Y W C A AND THAT'S FINE 'CAUSE EVERYONE HERE HAS SHOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, VOICE THEIR CONCERNS OR, AND IF THEY'RE IN FAVOR OF THIS. AND SO A LOT OF THE STUFF ALSO THAT I GOT, WE DID MEET WITH THEM. UH, WE TRIED WORKING WITH THEM. WE REALLY, REALLY TRIED TO WORK WITH THEM. WE FIRST, THEY WOULDN'T EVEN GIVE US A SIDE PLAN. THAT'S AN INSULT. THEN FINALLY WE GET ONE AND IT'S JUST SKETCHED OUT. SO WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO. AND THEY'RE SAYING, NO, NO, NO, NO, YOU DON'T, YOU WE, WE CAN DO THIS AFTER YOU GIVE US A ZONING, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS. ONCE WE GET THE ZONING, WE CAN HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING AND WE'LL PUT TOGETHER A MASTER PLAN. I DON'T KNOW WHO DOES THAT IN OTHER COMMUNITIES. I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW. SO THIS IS VERY CONCERNING FOR US, THAT THEY WANT US TO GIVE THEM A SEAT TOO, JUST LIKE THAT TURN AROUND AND SAY, OH, THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND TELL YOU ALL WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN HERE. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. IT'S UNACCEPTABLE FOR US BECAUSE WE'RE IN DISTRICT FIVE. WE ALREADY HAVE A SHELTER, WHICH IS GREAT. UM, AS FAR AS WHAT THE MISSION AND THE PURPOSES FOR HAVEN FOR HOPE. BUT WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS AFTERWARDS TOO. ALSO, THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DANO 'CAUSE THIS IS NOT COMPATIBLE FOR THIS AREA, REGARDLESS AS TO WHAT THEY PUT UP THERE ABOUT THE OTHER CAMPUSES, HUMAN CAMPUSES ACCEPTABLE THERE IN THIS, IN THIS AREA. I WANT YOU ALL TO PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND BECAUSE IT'S AFFECTING AND IMPACTING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE THERE. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THIS ROOM THAT DO NOT LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. I WANT YOU TO PLEASE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. ALSO, I WANTED TO MENTION A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT I FIND OUT. IT'S NOT BECAUSE THEY CONTACTED US. IT'S BECAUSE I FIND OUT THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE MEDIA, WHICH SHE SPEAKS ABOUT. THAT'S HOW I FIND OUT THEY HAVE A MEETING ON SATURDAY. THEY DIDN'T EVEN INVITE US. YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT THEY WANNA BE PARTNERS WITH US. HOW WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN INVITE THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO GO TO YOUR MEETING ON SATURDAY. AND WE HAD BEEN ASKING AND ASKING FOR A COMMUNITY MEETING THAT WAS NOT GIVEN. WHEN WE PROPOSED A MEETING WITH THE WHOLE COMMUNITY, THEY DECIDED TO DO THAT MEETING ON SATURDAY. THAT'S WHY THEY DIDN'T HAVE NO PER NO REPRESENTATION FROM THE COMMUNITY. 'CAUSE THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T LET US KNOW. SO WE DECIDED TO, WE WERE GOING TO MAKE A COMMUNITY MEETING. AND AFTER TALKING TO THE NEIGHBORS, THEY SAID, NO, [01:20:01] THAT'S IT. WE DON'T WANNA HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING ANYMORE. 'CAUSE WE'VE ALREADY ASKED AND ASKED AND ASKED. ASKED AND ASKED. AND THEY WOULDN'T GIVE IT TO US. SO NOW THEY'RE HAVING ANOTHER MEETING. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING BACK WHAT SHE SAID UP HERE, THAT THERE'S ANOTHER MEETING, THIS FOLLOWING SALARY, WE KNOW ABOUT IT THROUGH HERE. YOU KNOW, SO SOMEBODY THAT THIS IS THE WHY W C A, RIGHT? IT'S A NOT IT'S A HIGHLY RESPECTED NONPROFIT. AND WE ARE JUST PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN DISTRICT FIVE. THEY WANNA TAKE CARE OF OUR AREAS. YES, WE, WE LIKE PROGRESS, BUT WE WANT GOOD, GOOD STUFF COMING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. SO ANYWAYS, THAT'S IT. SORRY, I'M JUST, I GET A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, LOOK AT US. THERE'S THREE OF US, THREE OF US PEOPLE WORK IN OUR COMMUNITY. PEOPLE ARE ELDERLY. THEY CANNOT COME UP HERE. THEY TRUSTED US WITH THE FORMS TO SUBMIT 'EM HERE AND TO, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WITH THE DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T COME HERE, THEY DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF GETTING PAID LEAVE TO COME HERE. AND I CAN BET YOU THERE'S A LOT OF EMPLOYEES HERE FROM THE Y W C A. THEY'RE GETTING PAID TO BE HERE. AND THAT'S NOT RIGHT EITHER FOR US. THAT'S NOT FAIR. IT'S NOT A BALANCE. THERE'S NO BALANCE. DO I STILL HAVE SOME TIME ? TWO MINUTES. OKAY, LET'S SEE WHAT I CAN DO HERE. OKAY. THE WESTWOOD GARY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AFTER BLOCK, WALKING THE AREA WITHIN 200 FEET TALKING TO NEIGHBORS, IS OPPOSING THE REZONING OF THE 20 23 18 CASTORVILLE ROAD. WHILE THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL MEETINGS BETWEEN THE APPLICANTS, THE Y W C A, SAN ANTONIO AND THEIR ATTORNEY, BROWN AND NORTHEAST WITH WESTWOOD SQUARE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, LOS LINAS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION LEADERS, AS WELL AS OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS IN THE AREA. AS PART OF THE WEST SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION'S COALITION, THERE WAS A RELUCTANCE BY THE Y W C C A TO MEET WITH RESIDENTS UNTIL AFTER THE ZONING CHANGE SO THAT RESIDENTS COULD HAVE INPUT INTO THE PROJECT. NEIGHBORS HEARD ABOUT THE CHANGES IN THE NEWS WHERE THEY WERE OFTEN CAT CATEGORIZED AS NIMBYS, WHO AGGRESSIVELY OPPOSED NO. ONE STATE STARTED THE PROCESS OPPOSING THIS WOMEN'S CAMPUS TO HELP GIVING YOUNG WOMEN A CHANCE TO BETTER THEIR LIVES. BUT THERE IS NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD IN THIS CITY THAT WOULD SUPPORT SUCH A DRASTIC ZONING CHANGE THAT REQUIRES TRUST. WHEN THAT TRUST HAS BEEN BROKEN. WESTSIDERS HAVE ENDURED A HISTORY OF PROMISES BY THOSE THAT DO NOT LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND WHEN IT DOES NOT TURN OUT WELL FOR US, NO ONE IS AROUND TO HELP. NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS HAVE SHARED CONCERNS ABOUT THE FUTURE USE OF C TWO CD ZONING AND THE CA COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORS, AS WELL AS THE LACK OF SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR THE HUMAN HUMAN CAMPUS. THERE HAS BEEN LITTLE IN THE WAY OF CONCRETE PLANS PRESENTED, ALTHOUGH THE PLANS HAVE BEEN, HAVE BECOME SOMEWHAT MORE DETAILED WITH EACH MEETING, IT SEEMS THAT SO MUCH HAS YET TO BE DECIDED. DESPITE THE CONCERNS FOR THE YOUNG WOMEN OF OUR COMMUNITY, WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS ZONING CHANGE WILL NECESSARILY RESULT IN WHAT THE PLANS HAVE BEEN PRESENTED. INSTEAD OF SITTING DOWN WITH THE RESIDENTS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS. THE Y W C A HELD A SMALL COMMITTEE COMMUNITY MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 12TH, WITH WHICH WITH VERY FEW RESIDENTS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WERE NOT INVITED. ALL WE ASKED FOR WAS FOR AN INCLUSIVE AND TRANSPARENT PROCESS. NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE VITALITY OF THE FUTURE OF THIS CORRIDOR, ABOUT THE HOUSING THAT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO CASTORVILLE ROADS OF SUCCESS IN THE AREA THAT NEEDS IMPROVEMENT DESPITE GOOD INTENTIONS. ALL THE USES THAT THE HUMAN CAMPUSES ARE ALLOWED, NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THIS RESIDENTIAL AREA, WE ASK THAT THE ZONING COMMISSION DENY THE REQUEST FOR THE ZONING CHANGE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. GAN. ALEXIS VEGA. MS. VEGA. OKAY, ONCE AGAIN, LET ME JUST TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY 'CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SOME NEGOTIATION. ALRIGHT. IF YOU WANT TO GIVE YOUR TIME TO SOMEONE ELSE, YOU NEED TO DO IT BEFORE THAT PERSON SPEAKS. IF YOU WANT TO USE YOUR OWN TIME, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AND YOU CAN GIVE YOUR TIME OR SOMEONE CAN RECEIVE YOUR TIME FOR UP TO NINE MINUTES. SO MS. VEGA, IT'S UP TO YOU. ALRIGHT, COME ON UP. HELLO. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ALEXIS VEGA AND I'M WITH THE Y W C A I, MYSELF. I'M A PART OF THE RESET PROGRAM AND WHAT THE RESET PROGRAM IS, IS FOR YOUNG WOMEN TO GET THEIR CERTIFICATION FOR THEIR C H W. SO I AM IN A PAID, UH, PAID PROGRAMMING IN ORDER TO RECEIVE MY C H W I STARTED IN NOVEMBER, AND IN THE SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME THAT I'VE BEEN THERE, [01:25:01] I'VE ALREADY BEEN LIKE GRACED WITH GREAT OPPORTUNITY. I HAVE THE LEAD POSITION IN THE VACCINE PROGRAM AND JUST YESTERDAY I HAD AN INTERVIEW FOR A PROJECT COORDINATOR POSITION. SO WITHIN THE FEW AMOUNT OF TIME IN FEW MONTHS THAT I'VE BEEN THERE, I'VE EXCEEDED AND I'VE HAD SO MUCH GROWTH AND I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH. I AM TRULY GRATEFUL FOR THE Y W C A BECAUSE IF IT WASN'T FOR THEM, I WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY. UM, JUST TO BE ABLE TO BE HERE AND BE ABLE TO SPEAK FOR IT. LIKE THIS IS WHY I REALLY DO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I AM WOULD BE SUPER EXCITED TO BE A PART OF EXPANDING AND JUST TRULY GOING OUT THERE AND HELPING FOR THE COMMUNITY AND HEARING WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS BACK FROM US AS WELL. I JUST WOULD LOVE TO BE A PART OF ACTUALLY SUCCEEDING AND FULFILLING OUR MISSION, STATE STATEMENT OF ELIMINATING RACISM AND EMPOWERING WOMEN. AND THROUGH THIS PROGRAM AND THE PROGRAMS THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO CONTINUE TO DO, WE WILL DEFINITELY BE ABLE TO DO THAT AS I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF BEING A PART OF THAT MYSELF. SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU MS. VEGA. AND MS. VEGA. I'M SORRY, DID WE GET YOUR ADDRESS? OH, I'M SORRY. MY ADDRESS IS 4 1 1 4 MEDICAL DRIVE. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ESKA RAT. OH, OKAY. UH, DORA GOMEZ, FOLLOWED BY CRYSTAL JACKO. AND MS. GOMEZ, IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS DORA GOMEZ AND I, MY ADDRESS IS 2 1 4 KIPLING AVENUE, 7 8 2 2 3. ALTHOUGH I LIVE IN, UH, I AM WITH Y W C A, I AM A, THE OUTREACH COORDINATOR. I, THAT IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I LIVED ON SANRIO, ON SAN FELIPPE LA CORONADO. I ATTENDED M F I ELEMENTARY. I WENT ON TO JUNIOR HIGH AND MY DREAM HAD SHORT RIGHT THERE. I DIDN'T, WAS NOT ABLE TO GO TO HIGH SCHOOL. EVERY TIME I SEE ONE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE, I'M LIKE, OH, WHERE WAS THIS WHEN I WAS YOUNG? BUT LIFE HAPPENS. UH, SO AT THAT POINT IN TIME, I, MY DREAM DID NOT COME TRUE LATER IN THE YEARS WHEN I DID APPLY AT THE Y W C A AND THEY TOOK ME IN AS STAFF. I WAS INSPIRED BY EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING. THE PROGRAMS WERE SO WONDERFUL FOR EVERYBODY. FOR THE FIRST TIME, I STEPPED MY FOOT INTO A COLLEGE AND I GOT MY DEGREE IN A SOCIAL WORK. SO I WAS VERY PROUD OF MYSELF. ALTHOUGH IT WAS AT A LATER AGE, IT STILL HAPPENED. AND NOW I SEE THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR YOUNG WOMEN AGES 17 TO 24. JUST THINK ABOUT IT. I THINK ABOUT IT LIKE, OH MY GOD, THESE YOUNG WOMEN. UM, SO I HAVE WORKED 17 YEARS AT THE Y W C A AND I AM PART OF SEEING ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS THAT THE Y W C A DOES FOR THE COMMUNITY. I ALWAYS SAY THAT I WORK IN THE COMMUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY. I LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. I KNOW THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE IN THERE. I HAVE SENIORS THAT WE GO VISIT. THEY CALL ME FOR THEIR COFFEE, AND I GO IN AND, AND WE GO DRINK COFFEE. SO, BECAUSE OF THIS PROGRAM THAT IS SOMETHING NEW, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I REALLY GO FOR BECAUSE WHERE WAS THAT WHEN I WAS TRYING TO GET AHEAD? AND NOW WE ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE Y W C A. WE HAVE THAT PHRASE. WE'VE HEARD THAT PHRASE. I HEAR IT ALL THE TIME. WHEN ONE DOOR CLOSES, ANOTHER DOOR OPENS MY DOOR CLOSED. VERY EARLY AGE. I WAS ONLY 15. BUT THEN I CAME BACK AND Y W C A OPENED THAT DOOR FOR ME. SO I GOT MY DEGREE. BUT NOW WE ASK THAT FOR OUR FUTURE WOMEN, THAT WE HELP OPEN THAT DOOR SUPPORT TO OPEN THAT DOOR FOR OUR FUTURE WOMEN SO THAT THEY CAN SUCCEED FOR A BETTER LIFE. LET'S OPEN THAT DOOR, HELP US OPEN THAT DOOR SO THAT THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND NOT LIKE MY DREAM THAT GOT SHORT AT THAT POINT IN TIME, AT THE AGE OF 15. LET'S ALL SUPPORT, HELP OPEN THIS DOORS FOR THE WOMEN FOR A BETTER LIFE AND THEIR DREAM TO BECOME A REALITY. NOW IS THE TIME. THIS IS A, A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. LIKE I SAID, I WISH IT WAS THERE WHEN I WAS YOUNG. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU MS. GOMEZ. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF WE CAN KEEP ANY FEEDBACK TO NON-EXISTENT. I WAS, WAS GONNA SAY TO A MINIMUM, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LONG MEETING. SO CRYSTAL JACO, FOLLOWED BY LEXI VEGA. HI, GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M CRYSTAL JACO. I'M THE RESET PROGRAM MANAGER FOR Y W C A. UM, MY ADDRESS IS 2 1 1 8 SKULL VALLEY DRIVE. SO MY, UH, I OVERSEE, UH, THE, MY TEAM THAT RECRUITS THE YOUNG WOMEN WE RECRUIT FROM THE SOUTH SIDE, EAST SIDE, WEST SIDE, UM, VARIOUS ZIP CODES. UM, AND WE PROVIDE CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICES. MY TEAM, UM, ALONGSIDE WITH THE TRAINING PROGRAM THAT [01:30:01] THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE IN THE VARIOUS PAY TRAINING PROGRAMS WHERE THEY'RE LEARNING HOW TO, YOU KNOW, UM, HOW TO NETWORK, HOW TO OUTREACH, HEALTH LITERACY, UM, VARIOUS THINGS THAT THEY'RE LEARNING. THEY'RE ALSO RECEIVING CASE MANAGEMENT AT THE SAME TIME. AND, UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM ON I, ON IDENTIFYING THEIR SPECIFIC, UM, NEEDS. WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO REMOVE THOSE BARRIERS SO THAT THEY CAN BECOME SELF-SUFFICIENT. THAT MAY INCLUDE ACCESS TO CHILDCARE, THAT MAY INCLUDE, UM, TEACHING THEM HOW TO, HOW TO CREATE A BUDGET, OPEN A BANK ACCOUNT, UM, WHATEVER IT IS THAT THAT'S KEEPING THEM FROM SUCCEEDING. UH, AND A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH HOUSING INSECURITY. WE HAVE FOSTER YOUTH THAT HAVE AGED OUT. WE HAVE YOUNG WOMEN THAT HAVE FLED FROM DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SITUATIONS. UM, ALL OF THOSE THINGS WHERE THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE TO TURN, WHAT TO DO. AND IN THIS, UH, EDUCATIONAL CAMPUS THAT WE CAN PROVIDE, IT PROVIDES LIKE A SENSE OF COMMUNITY, A SENSE OF SUPPORT. IT HELPS THEM TO LEARN HOW TO TRANSITION FROM BEING, YOU KNOW, UM, SOME, A LOT. THE MAJORITY OF OUR WOMEN ARE BETWEEN 18 AND 21 RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE LEARNING A LOT OF 'EM WERE IN HIGH SCHOOL OR DROPPED OUT JUST A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. THEY'RE LEARNING ABOUT LIFE AND UNFORTUNATELY UP TO THIS POINT, THEY HAVEN'T LEARNED ANY REALLY GOOD EXPERIENCES FROM LIFE. SO THIS TRANSITIONAL CENTER WILL HELP TO MAKE THEM MORE ACCOUNTABLE. THEY, THEY CAN LEARN HOW TO DO HOW, HOW TO BE PART OF A COMMUNITY IN A MEANINGFUL WAY THAT MOST OF THEM WEREN'T OR WEREN'T BROUGHT UP IN. UH, SO THEY'LL HAVE ACCESS TO THE TRAINING PROGRAMS AS WELL AS ALL THE SUPPORT OF THEIR FELLOW PARTICIPANTS. LIKE YOU HEARD FROM ALEXIS. WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER RESET PARTICIPANT THAT THEY'RE NOT PAID TO BE HERE, BUT THEY DO BENEFIT FROM THE PROGRAM EVERY SINGLE DAY, EVERY SINGLE WEEK. THEY'RE LEARNING MORE STRENGTHS ABOUT THEMSELVES. THEY'RE LEARNING MORE ABOUT WHAT THEY WANNA DO, OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW EXISTED IN THEIR WORLD THAT NOW THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, MAYBE, OH MY GOSH, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT I COULD DO THIS. I, ALEXIS HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE A LEADER THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL BLESSED TO SEE HER BLOSSOM. AND THERE'RE WOMEN THAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN THE FACT THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO CONNECT TO MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES BECAUSE OF OUR CASE MANAGERS, UM, THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO GET, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFY, THIS IS WHY I'M HAVING THIS TROUBLE. UH, WE HAVE SUPPORT GROUPS THAT THEY'RE A PART OF AND, UM, THEY'RE IN TURN GETTING TRAINED TO GO OUT AND EDUCATE THE WEST SIDE AND OTHER, UM, NEIGHBORHOODS ABOUT HEALTH LITERACY. THEY'RE GETTING TRAINED IN, YOU KNOW, SENIOR CONNECTION PROGRAM WHERE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, UM, PARTICIPATING WITH BINGO WITH THE SENIORS IN THE AREA. UH, THEY'RE DOING FOOD BANK DRIVES, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THIS STUFF THAT THEY'RE GETTING THE TRAINING TO DO, TO BE ABLE TO COM TO GIVE BACK TO THE WEST SIDE, TO ALL, ALL OF THE COMMUNITY IN SAN ANTONIO WHILE ALSO RECEIVING. THANK YOU, MR. OH, I'M SORRY. THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. LEXI VEGA, FOLLOWED BY RAQUEL FAVILLA. I THINK THAT WAS, WE'VE ALREADY CALLED MS. VEGA, SO I DON'T KNOW IF, WAS IT FAVELA OR WHAT WAS THE NAME? RAQUEL? YEAH. YES. FAVELA, MS. FAVELA. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS RAQUEL FAVELA. I AM WITH THE NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL. WE'RE A NATIONAL NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT HELPS, UH, MUNICIPALITIES, OTHER UNITS OF GOVERNMENT AND OTHER NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, UH, PUT TOGETHER THE FINANCING PACKAGE FOR, UH, PUBLIC SERVING PROJECTS. SO, UM, WE ARE, UH, DONATING MOST OF OUR SERVICES TO THE Y W C A AS THEY ENDEAVOR TO DEVELOP THAT. MOST NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS WHEN THEY LOOK TO DO A PROJECT LIKE THIS, DON'T HAVE DEVELOPMENT SKILLS ON STAFF. SO WE GUIDE THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS ON HOW TO PROCURE THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES THAT THEY WILL NEED TO GUIDE THEM, AND THEN TO HELP THEM PUT TOGETHER ALL OF THE FUNDING APPLICATIONS TO BOTH FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS AND OTHER UNITS OF GOVERNMENT. SO WE HAVE BEEN PROVIDING, UH, THE Y WITH, UH, SUPPORT AND HAVE GUIDED THEM ALSO ON THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS. AND SO UNFORTUNATELY, THE TIMING DOESN'T ALIGN PERFECTLY SO THAT THEY CAN SECURE THE ZONING PRIOR TO SUBMITTING FINANCING APPLICATIONS. BUT AS YOU ARE WELL AWARE, UM, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO PROCEED ANY FURTHER ON SECURING ADDITIONAL FINANCING TO ENGAGE AN ARCHITECT, ENGINEER, MASTER PLANNING TEAM THAT CAN ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE APPROPRIATE ZONING. ANY LENDER, ANY FINANCE, ANY GOVERNMENT, UM, ENTITY IS GOING TO REQUIRE THAT THEY HAVE THE APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROJECT THEY WANT TO UNDERTAKE. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CATCH 22. AND SO THAT'S WHY THE COMMUNITY IS LOOKING FOR A WELL-THOUGHT OUT PLAN. AND THE WISE PROCESS IN INCLUDES FIRST SECURING THE ZONING THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO DO THE THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO DO AND NOT DO THE THINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS EXPRESSED [01:35:01] OPPOSITION TO ALL WHILE STILL BEING ELIGIBLE FOR FINANCING ON IT. AND SO THAT'S WHY IT SEEMS LIKE THE CARD'S AHEAD OF THE HORSE IN THIS CASE, BUT IN THIS CASE, THEIR WILLINGNESS TO ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THEIR COMMITMENT TO THAT IS FRANKLY WHY WE'RE ALIGNED WITH THE PROJECT AND WHILE WE'RE SUPPORTING THEM, UM, ON A PRO BONO BASIS. MM-HMM. , THANK YOU. KODA RAO GARZA, FOLLOWED BY DENNIS KAPA. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND THOSE WHO ARE COMING UP, IF Y'ALL WANT TO HEAD TO THE FRONT, WE CAN CUT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME OFF WITH OUR TRANSIT, UH, MS. RAO GARZA, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. RAO GARZA. MY NAME IS RAO GARZA. I'M AT 93 0 3 REGIMENT DRIVE, UM, AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF RACIAL JUSTICE AND GENDER EQUITY AT Y W C A SAN ANTONIO, UH, WHOSE MISSION IS TO ELIMINATE RACISM AND EMPOWER WOMEN. AND I CARRY THIS MISSION, UH, AND I AND I WORK EVERY DAY AS THIS IS A PASSION OF MINE, HAVING ALSO, UH, BEEN BORN INTO AN UNDERSERVED COMMUNITY. UM, SO WE, WE ADVOCATE FOR WOMEN. PART OF OUR WORK IS IN HELPING. PART OF MY WORK IS IN HELPING IDENTIFY POLICIES THAT WILL HELP CLOSE THE WAGE GAP AND SPUR ECONOMIC, UH, SUCCESS, THE ECONOMIC SUCCESS OF WOMEN IN OUR COMMUNITY. IN A NEW SURVEY RELEASED THIS MONTH BY Y W C A U SS A OF OVER 1,438 WOMEN, LATINA WOMEN ESPECIALLY, WHICH LARGELY MAKE UP A A HUGE PORTION OF OUR DE CITY'S DEMOGRAPHIC, UH, WERE ASKED WHAT THEIR TOP CONCERN WAS ACROSS A RANGE OF ECONOMIC HEALTH AND SOCIETAL, UH, ISSUES. THE TOP CONCERN FOR LATINA WOMEN AND, AND OTHER WOMEN OF COLOR WAS THAT THEIR TOTAL FAMILY INCOME WOULD NOT BE ENOUGH TO MEET THEIR FAMILY'S NEEDS. UM, THAT WAS A RATE OF 65% WITH AN OVERALL 11 POINTS HIGHER ACROSS ALL RACIAL AND ETHNIC CATEGORIES. UH, THE WORK THAT WE DO AT Y W C A, UH, IS IN ADVOCATING FOR WOMEN, WHICH IS WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY, WHICH IS WHY I AM HERE TODAY. THERE ARE NOTABLE SYSTEMIC BARRIER BARRIERS THAT ARE GONNA CONTINUE TO PREVENT WOMEN FROM ACCESSING HOME OWNERSHIP. UH, AND OUR INTENTION IS TO CLOSE THE RACIAL AND GENDER WEALTH GAP BY PROVIDING, UH, WOMEN WHO ARE READY, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADVANCE THEIR CAREER AT OUR EDUCATIONAL CAMPUS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, SIR. I'M FEEDING MY TIME. GOOD SISTER. OKAY. OKAY. SO DENNIS CAMPA IS GIVING HIS TIME TO SISTER ESTHER GUERRERO. THANK YOU, SISTER. YOU WILL HAVE SIX MINUTES. THANK YOU THAT MUCH. OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M SISTER ESTHER GUERRERO, 2318 CASTROVILLE ROAD, AND I AM HERE WITH MY OTHER SISTERS, THE MISSIONARY CATECHIST OF DIVINE PROVIDENCE, WHO STRONGLY, STRONGLY SUPPORT, UM, THE MISSION OF THE Y WS C A AND, UH, WANTING TO EMPOWER WOMEN, WHICH ALIGNS WITH OUR MISSION AS WELL AS CDPS ALIGNS WITH OUR MISSION TO EMPOWER WOMEN. AND THE Y W C A HAS THE VISION AND WOULD LIKE TO, UH, IS GOING TO OFFER JOB OPPORTUNITIES, THE RESOURCES, UH, DAYCARE CENTERS SO THAT THIS WOMEN CAN BE THE BEST, WHO THEY ARE CALLED TO BE, AND ALSO SO THAT THEY CAN BE, UH, GOOD CONTRIBUTING CITIZENS TO OUR SOCIETY. SO THAT IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THAT WE CHOSE TO SELL TO THE Y W S C A BECAUSE IT ALIGNS VERY, WE HAD OTHER POTENTIAL BUYERS, BUT WE, WE DISCERNED AND FELT THAT THIS WAS THE GROUP THAT WOULD, THAT ALIGNED VERY MUCH WITH OUR MISSION. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, SISTER. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR IN PERSON. WE HAVE SOME VOICEMAILS TO PLAY. VERY GOOD. IF WE COULD BEGIN THE VOICEMAILS, PLEASE. THIS IS GLORIA HERNANDEZ FROM THE LAS PALM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UH, 37 23 EL PASO STREET. UH, MY NUMBER'S 2 1 0 8 40 48 10. AND UH, I'M CALLING TO OPPOSE THE REDISTRICT, THE REDISTRICT CASE, UH, LOCATED AT 2318 CASTROVILLE ROAD. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS RAMIRO GONZALEZ. ADDRESS IS SIX 30 SOUTHWEST 41ST STREET. PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 501-0192. ZONING CASE ENDING IN 3 4 1. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS RAMIRO GONZALEZ. I'M THE C E O OF PROSPER, WEST SAN ANTONIO, FORMERLY THE WEST SIDE DEVELOPING CORPORATION. OUR MISSION [01:40:01] IS TO ADVANCE THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES AND PROSPERITY OF THE WEST SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO. I'D LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF ITEM NUMBER SEVEN FOR THE PROPOSED REZONING AT 2318 CASTORVILLE ROAD BY THE Y W C A. ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND THERE IS MUCH TREPIDATION BY STAFF IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF WHAT THIS CONDITIONAL USE COULD POTENTIALLY MEAN FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOWN THE LINE. A GREAT PROJECT LIKE THIS SHOULD NOT BE PUNISHED BECAUSE OF THE FAILURE OF OUR OWN CODE TO PROVIDE BETTER OPTIONS. UNLIKE OTHER HOUSING PROJECTS THAT INVITE LONG-TERM POVERTY, THIS PROPOSED PROJECT WILL PRO PROVIDE PATHS TOWARDS ECONOMIC SUSTAINABILITY AND SUCCESS FOR THE WOMEN WHO FIND REFUGE THERE. AS AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS FOCUSED ON THE ECONOMIC SUCCESS OF THE WEST SIDE, WE NEED MORE PROJECTS LIKE THIS THAT WILL SERVE AS FAMILY ECONOMIC INCUBATORS AND TURN THE TIDE OF POVERTY ON THE WEST SIDE. PROSPER WEST STANDS READY TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT IN ANY WAY THAT WE CAN, INCLUDING AS A CO, INCLUDING AS A COVENANT PARTNER FOR A DEEDED RESTRICTION IF NECESSARY. WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT THE Y W C A WILL PROVE TO BE AN ASSET TO THIS AREA OF THE WEST SIDE AND TO ITS NEIGHBORS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. UH, YES, GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS RICHARD GARCIA. I RESIDE AT 1 6 6 TESLA DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 8. UH, CONTACT NUMBER'S 2 1 0 4 3 5 22 9 7. AND NOW REGARDING, REGARDING, I'M CALLING REGARDING CASE NUMBER 3 4 2 70. IT'S LOCATED AT 2318 CASTROVILLE ROAD AS A, A RESIDENT OF THE MEMORIAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF THE WEEX, THE WEST SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION COALITION. AND I'M, AND ALSO SUPPORT THE TIER ONE GROUP. BUT ANYWAY, I'M CALLING TO VOICE MY CONCERNS REGARDING THIS CASE HAVING TO DO WITH THE Y W C A, WANTING TO ESTABLISH THEIR HOMES THERE AND WE'RE A ADAMANTLY OPPOSE OPPOSED TO THIS, UH, FOR THEIR PROPOSING, UH, FROM DAY ONE. THE, THE WHY, UH, WHEN WE HAD OUR, OUR INITIAL MEETING, THEY LEFT MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS. THEY WEREN'T FULLY PREPARED. THEY WERE, THEY WERE NOT ORGANIZED. AND THE MERE FACT THAT THEY WERE GONNA ESTABLISH THIS, WHY DON'T YOU BUILD THIS HOMES HERE ON CA 2318 CASTROVILLE ROAD AND THEN HAVE, HAVE THE MEETINGS WITH, WITH THE COMMUNITY DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. IT'S KIND OF LIKE, UH, THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT'S USUALLY DONE. USUALLY HAVE THE MEETINGS AND THEN WITH COMMUNITY MEETING AND THEN WE GO, WE PROCEED. BUT THEY SEEM VERY, VERY DISORGANIZED AND NOT, AND I DON'T KNOW THE TIMES THAT WE HAVE MET WITH THEM, THEY JUST SEEM VERY DISORGANIZED AND VERY, I'M, I'M VERY ASTONISHED AND, AND AMAZED AT HOW THE, THE LEADERSHIP, YOU KNOW, IT'S SO, SO POOR AND NO, WE, WE, THEY HAVE NOT BEEN OPEN IN, IN THEIR MEETINGS THAT THEY'VE HAD WITH US COMMITTEE MEETINGS REGARDING THIS. THEY HAVE NOT BEEN OPEN WITH US AND HONEST WITH US. SO I'M ADAMANTLY OPPOSED. WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER HAVEN FOR HOPE HERE IN CASTROVILLE ROAD ON 35TH STREET. NOW. WE DON'T NEED ONE. ANOTHER HAVEN FOR HOPE. AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LONG TERM CONSEQUENCES IS GONNA GOING TO AFFECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. SO THEREFORE, MADLY OPPOSED TO THIS ZONING CASE, I, WELL, I WILL, I HAVE, I WILL CONTINUE, UH, ADVOCATING FOR THIS. NOT ONLY, UH, NOT ONLY ASKING THE CO COMMISSIONER, ONLY COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, BUT ALSO WITH MY PUBLIC ELECTED OFFICIAL, OUR CITY COUNCIL PERSON, MS. TERRY CASTILLO AND HER STAFF TO PLEASE, UH, SUPPORT US IN OPPOSING THIS. IT'S GONNA BE A NIGHTMARE. THANK YOU AND HAVE A NICE DAY. UH, YES, MY NAME IS ROSARIO GARCIA AND CALLING ON BEHALF OF THIS, UM, ZONING CASE THAT'S COMING UP WITH THE Y W C A. UM, JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I, I AM OPPOSED OF IT. UM, WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT'S GONNA COME OUT OF THIS AND IT'S GONNA TURN INTO ANOTHER HAVEN FOR HOPE OR WE JUST HAVE PEOPLE WANDERING THE STREET AND IT JUST, ALL SORTS OF THINGS JUST COME INTO MY MIND THINKING ABOUT THIS. UM, MY ADDRESS HERE IS, UM, 1 6 6 TESLA DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 8. THE NUMBER IS TWO TEN FOUR THREE FIVE TWO TWO NINE SEVEN. AND I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I WAS AGAINST THIS CASE. AND THAT ZONING CASE NUMBER IS, UM, 20 21, 1 0 7 0 0 3 4 2 CD. AND LIKE I SAID, MY NAME IS ROSA GARCIA, REGISTERED VOTER AND VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE ZONING CASES COMING UP. UM, VERY OPPOSED TO IT. THANK YOU, BUBBA. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE, SIR. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. MS. MCDONALD. UH, MR. BROWN, IF YOU'D INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND A BRIEF REBUTTAL IF YOU WOULD. UM, KEN BROWN, ONE 12 EAST PECAN, [01:45:01] UH, SUITE 1360. UM, SO CAROLINE WENT THROUGH OUR OUTREACH AND OUR MESSAGE HAS NEVER WAVERED AND, AND WE'RE NOT ASHAMED OF IT. IT, IT, IT'S NOT LIKE WE ARE AFRAID. YOU HAVE TO TELL 'EM WHAT IT IS. WE'RE PROUD TO TELL 'EM WHAT IT IS. AND WE'VE, WE'VE HAD THE MEETINGS AND WE'VE HAD AN OPEN HOUSE AND QUITE FRANKLY, I, I HAVE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY IF THE WRONG MESSAGE GOT OUT THERE, UH, THAT THIS WAS HAVEN FOR HOPE. TWO PEOPLE, THE LAST TWO PEOPLE SAID IT WAS HAVEN FOR HOPE. YES, WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH OUR CODE. YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR CODE IS THIS WIDE AND WE'RE ONLY DOING THIS MUCH OF IT. UH, AND WE'VE BEEN CLEAR ON THAT BECAUSE, BECAUSE WE'RE PROUD OF WHAT, WHAT WE THINK WE CAN ACCOMPLISH. I'VE DONE FIVE OF THESE AND, UH, ONE OF THEM WAS UNSUCCESSFUL BECAUSE THE OPERATOR WASN'T BELIEVABLE, UH, WASN'T TRUSTWORTHY. WELL THE Y W C A'S BEEN AROUND FOR OVER A HUNDRED YEARS. AND I THINK THEY ARE BELIEVABLE. I THINK THEY ARE TRUSTWORTHY. AND I THINK WHAT THEY EXPLAINED IS WHAT THEY INTEND TO DO. AND THEY'VE ALREADY INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY. I DON'T THINK WE'VE GONE OUTTA SEQUENCE OR OUTTA CYCLE. UM, WE CONTACTED THE COUNCILMAN'S OFFICE IMMEDIATELY BEFORE WE SUBMITTED THE CASE. SUBMITTED THE CASE. YES, WE CAN'T ENGINEER A SITE PLAN, BUT THE SITE PLAN THAT'S REQUIRED WITH THIS, WITH THIS ZONING CASE IS A CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN. AND IT GIVES SORT OF A, AN INTENSITY OF THE PROJECT. YOU KNOW, HOW MANY SQUARE FEET, HOW, HOW MUCH IMPERVIOUS COVER THAT SORT OF STUFF. UM, AND IF WE INCREASE THAT, WE HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU. UM, AND SO THAT IS THE PROCESS. WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROCESS AND I THINK WE'RE FOLLOWING IT. AND I KNOW THESE PEOPLE CARE. I, I DON'T THINK ANY ONE OF 'EM ARE SITTING HERE GOING, NOW WE'RE OUT TO GET THESE PEOPLE. UH, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE QUESTIONS AND THEY HAVE SOME CONCERNS AND WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER 'EM AND, AND KEEP MEETING. UM, WE HAVE, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING SCHEDULED. UM, BUT I WILL SAY THIS, I THINK THOSE THREE PEOPLE RIGHT THERE, IF WE ARE LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET THE ZONING CHANGED, THAT THEY WILL BE OUR BIGGEST SUPPORTER AFTER A YEAR. 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED AT THE THREE OTHER, THE OTHER, THE CROSSPOINT AND I THINK THE LAST ONE, IT HASN'T OPENED YET, BUT THE NEIGHBORS SEE WHAT, WHAT GOODWILL THAT THIS, THIS BRINGS INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY COME AND VOLUNTEER. THEY, THERE ARE JOBS THERE. YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S DISHEARTENING AT THIS POINT, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY ILL INTENT. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY, YOU KNOW, ANY BOOGEYMAN BEHIND THE SCENES. UH, I JUST THINK, UM, I THINK A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH, WITH THE, OUR ZONING APPLICATION ITSELF AND, AND WHAT IT SAYS. AND IF YOU GO TO THE CODE, UH, WHY DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE C TWO FOR, FOR A RESIDENTIAL USE? I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, IF WE COULD HAVE PUT THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT ON THE MF 33, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'D BE HAVING THESE PROBLEMS. BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MR. BROWN. SO WE'RE TAKING THE ONLY OPTION WE HAVE, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT. ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA USE THAT AS THE JUMPING OFF POINT TO TALK TO STAFF FIRST. UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE. SO THE QUESTIONS ARE TO ME, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HEARD PEOPLE TALK ABOUT A HUMAN SERVICES CAMPUS. UH, AND THAT IS A CODE, THAT IS A TERM THAT IS DEFINED IN THE CODE UNDER 35 A 1 0 1. UM, GIVEN THE USES AS YOU UNDERSTAND THEM, IS THERE ANY OTHER ZONING AVAILABLE TO USE STAFF GIVEN THE REQUEST FOR A HUMAN SERVICE CAMPUS? AND, UM, THE ZONING THAT IS REQUIRED FOR THAT ESPECIALLY IS SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION IN COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS. UM, THE ONLY AVAILABILITY IS TO CONDITION IT DOWN INTO OTHER COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS. YOU CAN'T CONDITION THIS USE DOWN INTO A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, EVEN THOUGH IT IS A RESIDENTIAL USE WITH SOME, UH, COMMERCIAL SERVICES. THE, UM, THE ABILITY TO GO EVEN FURTHER DOWN FROM C TWO IS UNAVAILABLE AS WELL BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT BUILDING SIZE. C ONE HAS, UH, BUILDING SIZE LIMITATIONS OF 5,000 SQUARE FEET PER BUILDING WITH A MAXIMUM OF THREE. UH, SO THAT WOULD PUT IT OUTTA COMPLIANCE AND THEN THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO RENOVATE IT ANYWAY WITHOUT COMING BACK TO REZONE FOR C TWO. SO, UH, THAT IS, UH, THE LIMITATION BASED ON THE, THE CURRENT USE AND THE WAY THE CURRENT USE IS DEFINED IN THE CODE. OKAY. UM, MR. BROWN INDICATED THAT THIS WAS A CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN, UH, THAT WAS REQUIRED, UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE SITE PLAN, UH, THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED AND IF WE CAN GET THE SITE PLAN UP, I'D APPRECIATE IT. [01:50:01] UM, WHAT IS THE EFFECT OF THIS SITE PLAN ON THIS PROJECT? SO THE SITE PLAN WOULD BE TIED TO THIS CONDITIONAL USE AND, UM, IT IS ENFORCEABLE BY THE ORDINANCE, WHICH MEANS THE CITY WOULD ENFORCE THIS DURING THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. SO EVEN IF THE Y SOLD IT TO, UH, ANOTHER ORGANI ORGANIZATION THAT DOES THE SAME SERVICE AND SAME USE, THAT THAT NEW BUSINESS WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THIS SITE PLAN. AND, UM, IF THEY WANTED TO ADD THOSE BUILDINGS, THE BUILDINGS WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH A SITE PLAN WITH THAT, UH, SIZE LIMITATION ON THOSE BUILDINGS. THEY WOULD TO COMPLY WITH THOSE SETBACKS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE PLACEMENT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO, UH, COMPLY WITH ANY PARKING AREAS. AND SO AGAIN, THAT SITE PLAN IS, UH, TIED TO THE, TO THE PROPERTY AND TIED TO THAT USE. ALRIGHT, SO LOOKING, LET'S COMBINE THOSE TWO ISSUES IF WE COULD, LOOKING AT THE HUMAN SERVICES CAMPUS AND THE NINE WITHOUT LIMITATION USES THAT ARE AVAILABLE AS A HUMAN SERVICES CAMPUS. AND THIS SITE PLAN RIGHT NOW, IF ZONING WERE TO BE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL EVENTUALLY, UM, THEY COULD DO ALL OF THOSE USES THAT ARE DEFINED IN THE HUMAN SERVICES CAMPUS AND POSSIBLY SOME OTHERS, BUT THEY WOULD BE LIMITED TO THE SPACES AS INDICATED ON THIS SITE PLAN. IS THAT CORRECT? THO THOSE SERVICES WOULD BE LIMITED TO THIS PROPERTY. SO AGAIN, THE HUMAN SERVICE CAMPUS IS DEFINED AS INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO SERVICES. AND SO THOSE SERVICES WOULD BE CONFINED TO THOSE. THE, THE BEST WAY I CAN I CAN EXPLAIN IT IS IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO DO, UH, AUTO REPAIR AND THEY WERE DOING IT THROUGH A CONDITIONAL USE AND UH, THEY WERE MAKING, UH, NEGOTIATIONS TO SAY, WELL, I JUST WON'T REPAIR CATALYTIC CONVERTERS. AUTO REPAIR IS AUTO REPAIR. YOU'RE, AND THAT IS DEFINED. THE CITY CANNOT SAY, WELL, UM, WE CAN, WE CAN REMOVE SOME PORTIONS OF REPAIR AND YOU CAN'T DO IT. WE, WE CANNOT DO THAT. THAT IS UNENFORCEABLE, UH, BECAUSE THAT IS THE USE. SO, BUT AGAIN, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE CONFINED TO THE, TO THAT PROPERTY ONLY. UM, AND IF THEY SPECIFY WHERE THEIR DWELLING UNITS ARE, THAT'S WHERE THEIR DWELLING UNITS WOULD, WOULD REMAIN. AND THAT AGAIN WOULD BE TIED, UH, FORTH AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE. SO I THINK THAT THAT LAST PART WAS REALLY MY QUESTION. THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE PHYSICAL STRUCTURES AND THE PROJECTED PHYSICAL STRUCTURES, THAT'S GONNA BE WHAT IS AVAILABLE ON THIS SITE PLAN GOING FORWARD? THAT'S CORRECT, BECAUSE ANYMORE WOULD REQUIRE A MAJOR AMENDMENT, WHICH MEANS A REZONING BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE ADDING, UH, MORE STRUCTURES, A LARGER BUILDING FOOTPRINT IF YOU WILL, WHICH IS A MAJOR FOOT MAJOR AMENDMENT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IF I COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES, PLEASE ACTUALLY, WHILE Y'ALL ARE COMING UP, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, THIS SITE PLAN INDICATES A 50 FOOT BUFFER ALONG THE SOUTH PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY. IS THAT SUFFICIENT OR DOES THAT HAVE TO BE AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION? IT'S ON THE SITE, SO IT'S ON THE SITE PLAN. SO THAT'S ENFORCED. SO IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A CONDITION AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT'S ON THE SITE PLAN. VERY GOOD, THANK YOU. US OR Y M C A, UM, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE Y W C A, ACTUALLY MR. BROWN, I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENCE, BUT LET'S GET IT FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH. PERFECT. SO, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT YOU'VE SEEN MR. RATRAY FROM THE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING HERE, THAT THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF CONCERN REGARDING THIS BECOMING SOME KIND OF SHELTER FOR THE NEWLY HOMELESS. CAN YOU EXPLAIN FOR ME AGAIN WHAT IS THE INTENTION OF THIS PROPERTY? WE'VE ALWAYS ENVISIONED IT TO BE A WOMEN'S EDUCATIONAL CAMPUS. THAT THE MAIN BUILDING WOULD BE FOR THE 24 WOMEN GOING THROUGH JOB TRAINING, CHILDCARE, UH, POTENTIALLY EVEN COLLEGE. THE REMAINING SEVEN ACRES IS WHAT WE WANTED TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY TO ENVISION. SOME IDEAS HAVE INCLUDED HOW MANY HOUSES THAT THAT WOMEN COULD GRADUATE INTO AND OWN AND PRACTICE HOME OWNERSHIP, UH, EXPANSION OF A BUILDING ONTO THE MAIN BUILDING FOR CHILD FOR EXPANDED CHILDCARE. SORRY, WHEN I DON'T HAVE MY USUAL MICROPHONE. UH, WHEN YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE HOUSING THERE, THOSE WOULD BE THE DOTTED LINES ALONG THE BOTTOM OF THAT SITE PLAN? YES. OKAY. THOSE BOXES POTENTIALLY THOSE WE, UH, SO BEHI IT WOULD BE BEHIND THE BUILDING. UH, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY. EXACTLY. UM, THAT'S PART OF THE, THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS TO MEASURE THE LAND, FIND OUT HOW MANY COULD THE, THE PROPERTY COULD BEAR. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO YOU [01:55:01] MENTIONED THAT THIS IS A LIVE AND LEARN, CORRECT? CORRECT. SO EXACTLY WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? WHAT FAC WHAT SERVICES WOULD YOU PROVIDE? JOB TRAINING, AS WE DESCRIBED BEFORE. WE CURRENT, WE CURRENTLY HAVE OUR RESET PROGRAM, WHICH IS FOR YOUNG WOMEN AGES, UH, 17 TO 24, TRAINING THEM TO BE COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKERS. IT'S FUNDED BY A HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES GRANT TO HELP YOUNG WOMEN GET A SKILL WHILE ALSO PROVIDING VACCINE INFORMATION AND OUTREACH IN THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S ONE MODEL OF JOB TRAINING. WE'RE PARTNERING WITH PROJECT QUEST, FOR EXAMPLE, ON SIMILAR PROJECTS. UM, WE'VE JUST RECEIVED ANOTHER GRANT TO TRAIN YOUNG WOMEN FOR ALLIED HEALTH CAREERS. SO HEALTH IS ONE MAJOR AREA, BUT THERE ARE OTHERS, UM, FINANCIAL SERVICES, UM, TECH RELATED CAREERS. SO THE CERTIFICATION THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE COLLEGE IS THE TYPE OF JOB TRAINING WE'RE PROVIDING. WE'VE ALSO BEGUN PARTNERSHIP CONVERSATIONS ABOUT PARTNERSHIPS WITH ALAMO COLLEGES, UM, TESA ABOUT, UM, GETTING YOUNG WOMEN INTO COLLEGE BECAUSE WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE ON THIS CAMPUS FOR FOUR YEARS, THEY COULD COME IN AS A, A COLLEGE FRESHMAN AND FINISH OUT COLLEGE WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT, UH, UH, SHELTER LIVING, UM, HOUSING AND CHILDCARE, UM, AND FOOD BECAUSE EVERYTHING WILL BE PROVIDED IN ON SITE ON THE MAIN, IN THE MAIN BUILDING. SO ONE THING THAT'S BEEN RAISED IN, IN SOME OF THE COMMENTS IS THIS IDEA OF SORT OF HOMELESS WALKING AROUND. I THINK I HEARD THAT ON ONE OF THE VOICEMAILS. UM, AND SO THIS IS GONNA BE A HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION. UM, IF THERE WERE TO BE A HOMELESS PERSON WALKING INTO YOUR SITE, SHOULD THIS ZONING GO THROUGH, UH, WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO HELP THAT PERSON? SO FOR, FOR STARTERS, THERE WILL BE SECURITY AROUND THE MAIN BUILDING. SOMEONE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO JUST WALK INTO, UM, THE SITE WITHOUT TALKING TO SOMEONE FIRST. IF IT WAS A YOUNG WOMAN AND IT FIT WITHIN THE, UH, THE GUIDELINES THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO SERVE, THAT THERE WOULD BE A WARM HANDOFF TO A CASE MANAGER WHO WOULD DO THE INTAKE. UM, WILL HAVE AN EXTENSIVE REVIEW PROCESS FOR YOUNG WOMEN WHO WILL BE LIVING THERE. UM, WE KNOW THAT, UM, HELPING, FOR EXAMPLE, IMMEDIATELY, UM, RELEASED FROM PRISON, UM, UH, INCARCERATED WOMEN WILL NOT BE A SERVICE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING. THERE ARE OTHERS THAT ARE DOING THAT IN THE COMMUNITY. WE COULD BE AFTER THAT. WE KNOW THAT YOUNG WOMEN WHO ARE STRUGGLING WITH DRUG AND ALCOHOL ISSUES WILL NOT BE SOMEONE WE WILL IMMEDIATELY SERVE. THERE ARE OTHERS DOING THAT. WE WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP FOR THAT. SO WE, WE WILL HAVE A VERY, UM, UH, AN INTAKE PROCESS THAT WILL GO THROUGH A SERIES OF QUESTIONS, UM, FOR THE APPLICANT'S. THANK YOU. UM, MS. PENA, IF I COULD ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS, PLEASE? YES, SIR. YES, MS. PENA. SO I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE FRUSTRATION, UH, THAT YOU SHARE, ESPECIALLY THAT WHICH IS SORT OF HISTORICALLY PRESENT, UH, IN DISTRICT FIVE AND IN FRANKLY MANY OF OUR COMMUNITIES IN SAN ANTONIO. UM, AND, AND I THINK YOU'VE MADE IT CLEAR, AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE MISSION, WHAT THE Y W S A WANTS TO DO HERE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD NECESSARILY OBJECT TO. IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, WHEN I, YEAH, WHEN I TALKED ABOUT THE MISSION, I READ THEIR MISSION STATEMENT REGARDING THE Y W C A. SO ARE THERE ISSUES THAT YOU, GIVEN SORT OF WHAT MS. RATRAY? WELL, LIKE I, OKAY, CAN I EXPLAIN? WHEN WE STARTED, YOU KNOW, THIS PROCESS, SHE TOLD US ABOUT THE WOMEN, UH, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE HOUSING OF WOMEN, 24 WOMEN. WE STARTED WITH 24 WOMEN. AND SO THAT ESCALATED TO MORE QUESTIONS AND MORE QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THIS PROGRAM GONNA BE ABOUT BESIDES HOUSING 24 WOMEN. WHEN THEY PUT THOSE TWO BUILDINGS ON THE SITE, WE ASKED TWO STORY, ONE STORY. WELL, WE DON'T KNOW. THEY MIGHT BE, THOSE ARE THE ANSWERS THAT WE WOULD GET. SO WITH THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA HAVE TRUST, YOU KNOW, AND WE STARTED WITH THAT BECAUSE WE'RE JUST NOT PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANNA WORK WITH PEOPLE. WE DO. THAT'S WHY WE CAME TO THE TABLE AND, AND HAD SEVERAL, UH, THREE MEETINGS AND, UM, AND IT'S LIKE, IT'S OKAY TO AGREE TO DISAGREE, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO HATE US FOR THIS 'CAUSE WE'RE DISAGREEING. [02:00:01] IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST WOMEN AND BEING HELPING WOMEN, BUT IT'S NOT SUITABLE FOR THIS AREA. IT'S NOT NOT COMPATIBLE. MAY I? OKAY. SO LET'S AGAIN, HYPOTHETICALLY ASSUME THIS BODY RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. UM, WHAT DO YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE TO REESTABLISH THE TRUST THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? IS THAT POSSIBLE? IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S NOT POSSIBLE ANYMORE BECAUSE EVEN WHEN I WALKED IN, IT'S LIKE , IT, IT, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY DON'T, THEY CAN'T EVEN SAY HELLO. THAT'S HOW, THAT'S HOW I LOOK AT IT. SOMEBODY THAT'S A PROFESSIONAL AND WANTS TO WORK WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS A DIRECTOR OF THE Y W C A. LIKE I SAID, WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE, BUT WE DON'T NEED TO HATE EACH OTHER. AND NOT EVEN THAT SHE HAD THE AUDACITY TO SAY HELLO. SO DO YOU THINK THIS IS WORKABLE WHEN THEY TREAT US LIKE THIS? I'M ASKING BECAUSE , WE'VE ALREADY TRIED WORKING WITH THEM. AND SO WHEN I'M HERE, I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE COMMUNITY SAYING THAT THEY DON'T WANT IT. SO YOU, ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU PENYA. UM, AT THIS POINT I'M GONNA OPEN IT UP TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS FOR QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT COMMISSIONER BOTTLES? NO, I'M, I'M GONNA WAIT FOR, YOU'RE WAITING FOR, YOU'RE WAITING FOR A COMMENT. GREAT. UM, ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT QUESTIONS? YES, COMMISSIONER WHITE. YOU ASKED MY ONE QUESTION EARLIER, BUT I GUESS NOW I HAVE ANOTHER, HOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE, AND SORRY IF YOU ALREADY MENTIONED IT, BUT HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE, UM, OR RESIDENTS WOULD BE AT THIS CAMPUS? IS THAT 24? SO 24 AT ANY ONE TIME? UM, AT THE, WE INITIALLY, UM, IT'LL BE UP TO FOUR YEARS THAT, UH, THE 24 WILL BE THERE AND THEN ANO A NEW COHORT WILL COME IN AS SOON AS ONE GROUP IS READY TO LEAVE. SO WE DON'T ANTICIPATE GETTING IN NEW, UH, WOMEN FOR AT LEAST FOUR YEARS. YEAH. AND, AND I DON'T LIKE MY OWN QUESTIONS BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING AT LAND USE HERE AND, UM, SO SOME OF THIS STUFF I THINK STRAYS OUTSIDE OF THAT. UM, BUT I'M GONNA ASK IT ANYWAYS. UH, FOLLOW UP 24, THAT'S IN THE MAIN STRUCTURE OR DOES THAT INCLUDE PEOPLE THAT COULD BE LIVING IN THESE, UH, THESE PROPOSED HOMES ALONG THE BORDER? NO, SO 24 IN THE MAIN STRUCTURE AND THE GOAL IS TO GRADUATE THEM AND THE, WE HAVE, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, UP TO FOUR YEARS TO BUILD THE REMAINING HOUSING AROUND IT FOR THE FIRST GRADUATES OF THIS PROGRAM TO MOVE INTO THE NEW BUILDING. THEY MAY BE READY IN TWO YEARS. THESE ARE, THESE ARE WHAT WE WILL NEED TO SEE IN THE FIRST TWO YEARS OF THE PROGRAM, BUT THEY MAY BE READY TO GRADUATE INTO HOUSING WITHIN TWO YEARS. AND SO IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE TWO YEARS THAT WE WOULD BE BUILDING THE REMAINING HOUSING ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY. ALL RIGHT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WHITE COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT QUESTIONS? I DO, YES. COMMISSIONER WHEAT. THANK YOU. SO I JUST WANNA FOLLOW UP ON, UH, COMMISSIONER WHITE'S QUESTION. SO YOU SAID THAT THERE WERE 24 COME BACK UP. SO YOU SAID THERE WERE 24, UH, UH, WOMEN WHO WOULD BE IN THE PROGRAM THEN AS THEY GRADUATE AND THEY MOVE INTO THE PROPOSED, UH, CAMPUS HOUSING, WILL YOU GET ANOTHER SET TO BACKFILL THEM INTO YOUR PROGRAM? YES. SO WHEN WE, AS SOON AS SOMEONE IS COMPLETED THE PROGRAM OR, UH, DE DETERMINED TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO LIVE INDEPENDENTLY, AND BY THE WAY THEY COULD MOVE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY DON'T HAVE TO LIVE IN THE HOUSING ON THE CAMPUS, WE'RE GOING TO BE TRAINING THEM FOR HOME OWNERSHIP. SO THEY COULD POTENTIALLY BUY HOMES IN THE NEARBY AREA. BUT WHEN THOSE, THE FIRST GROUP OF WOMEN ARE ABLE TO LEAVE, THEN WE WOULD BRING MORE IN. SO AT ANY ONE TIME THOUGH, ON THE CAMPUS, THERE WILL BE 24 BECAUSE THERE ARE ONLY 24 UNITS, LIVING UNITS IN THE MAIN BUILDING. SO THEN AGAIN, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED NOW BECAUSE YOU SAID THERE WERE, YOU'RE PROPOSING, UH, HOUSING IN THESE DOTTED BOXES HERE? YES. OKAY. SO THEN IF THEY GRADUATE AND START MOVING INTO [02:05:01] THESE HOMES HERE YES. THEN YOU WOULD'VE MORE THAN 24 FAMILIES OR WOMEN IN YOUR PROGRAM, RIGHT. BY THAT, BY THE TIME THAT THEY'RE LIVING INTO THE DOTTED LINE HOUSES ON THE CAMPUS, THEY WILL HAVE COMPLETED THE INITIAL JOB TRAINING PROGRAM IN THAT IT WILL BE OCCURRING IN THE MAIN BUILDING. SO THEY WILL BE DETERMINED TO BE ABLE TO LIVE ON THEIR OWN. OKAY. SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND, HOW MANY DOTTED BOXES DO YOU INTEND TO HAVE ON THIS PROPERTY? SO WE HAVE NOT DETERMINED THAT NUMBER YET. THAT IS PART OF THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS THAT HAPPENS IN PHASE THREE, THAT WE ARE INVITING THE COMMUNITY TO HELP US DECIDE. OKAY. SO AGAIN, UH, PLEASE PATIENCE WITH ME. NO. SO WHEN DOES PHASE THREE HAPPEN? SO PHASE THREE, OUR, OUR, OUR PLAN WAS TO HAVE PHASE THREE START THIS SUMMER, JUNE. AND THAT REQUIRES HAVING A FACILITATOR WHO CAN FACILITATE A MASTER PLANNING PROCESS WITH MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. UM, WOMEN WHO HAVE ALREADY GONE THROUGH OUR RESET PROGRAM. RIGHT NOW, ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROCESS, AS ARE WE, BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH THIS LAST YEAR WITH CITY OF SAN ANTONIO PLANNING FOR THE LAS PALMAS DISTRICT, UM, FOR THE MADONNA CENTER DISTRICT AND FOR GOOD SAM. AND WE WENT THROUGH THIS TO RE-ENVISION THE LIBRARY. LAS PALMAS, OLGA MADRID CENTER CAMPUS. THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS THERE TOO. THEY PARTICIPATED, PAID IT IN THAT PROCESS. THAT'S THE SIMILAR TYPE OF PROCESS THAT WE WOULD HOPE TO HAVE FOR THE REMAINING SEVEN ACRES. THANK YOU. NOW I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. STAFF. CAN YOU UNDERSTAND, GIVEN THIS PROPERTY AND THE NUMBER OF ACREAGE AVAILABLE, HOW MANY DOTTED BOXES CAN THEY HAVE ON THIS CAMPUS? SO THEY JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY COMPLY WITH THEIR BUFFERS AND SETBACKS. UM, AND, UH, THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS, UH, THEY CAN HAVE. AND OF COURSE YOU ALSO HAVE TO HAVE PARKING, UH, RELATED TO THOSE SERVICES. SO AS LONG AS YOU MEET ALL OF THOSE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, THEN YOU CAN BUILD TO THAT. SO THE CONDITIONAL, THE CONDITIONAL USE SITE PLAN WOULD FURTHER RESTRICT HOW MANY BUILDINGS AND THE, AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE TO THAT, WHICH IS WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING HERE. THANK YOU. BUT WE CAN'T HAVE MORE MR. BROWN. OKAY. I'LL ASK QUESTION. OKAY. ACTUALLY I'M GONNA ASK THE QUESTION. ME. ALRIGHT. SO SITE PLAN INDICATES NINE BUILDINGS THERE. THAT'S IT. I, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE ON THE MIC, SIR. I'M SORRY. GOT RID OF MY ONE THAT STAYS ON. BUT MR. BROWN, BECAUSE THE SITE PLAN INDICATES NINE BUILDINGS. THAT'S RIGHT. WE CAN, IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO NINE BUILDINGS. CAN'T DO MORE THAN IS ON THERE WITHOUT COMING BACK TO YOU. UM, ALSO, AND LET ME MISS, COMMISSIONER WHITE JUST CLARIFIED SOMETHING FOR ME. THE NINE BUILDINGS ALONG THE SOUTHERN RIGHT PORTION AND THE TWO ON THE EASTERN PORTION. RIGHT. QUESTION. OKAY. WELL, LET ME, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THAT QUESTION, BUT I'M GONNA ACTUALLY GO TO COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL NEXT FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. AND BEAR WITH ME BECAUSE I'VE HAD AUDIO CUTTING IN AND OUT. SO SOME OF MY QUESTIONS MAY HAVE ALREADY BE BEEN ANSWERED. SO I, I I MISSED THE PART. DID WE TALK ABOUT I D Z HERE AND, AND WOULD THAT BE A FIT VERSUS THIS CONDITIONAL USE UNDER C TWO STAFF? IT WOULD BE THE, SORRY. IT WOULD BE THE SAME END RESULT. IT WOULD BE I D Z WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO AND A HUMAN SERVICE CAMPUS. NO, I GUESS I'M CONFUSED THERE BECAUSE I THOUGHT IN THE PAST WHEN WE'VE DONE SOME I D Z CASES, WE CAN PULL DOWN AND SPECIFY CERTAIN USES ONLY AND THEN THAT WAY THE OTHERS AREN'T ALLOWED TO BE BROUGHT IN. AM I MISINFORMED? UH, NO, THAT'S CORRECT. EXCEPT THAT THIS USE IS IN OUR CODE AS HUMAN SERVICE CAMPUS. OKAY. AND, AND WITH THAT THEN COMES ALL THE OTHER USES THAT COULD BE WORRISOME, I GUESS, TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S PROBABLY BEST TO CALL THEM, UH, OPERATIONS OF A HUMAN SERVICE CAMPUS. OKAY. SO THE USE IS A HUMAN SERVICE CAMPUS AND ALL OF THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IN THE CODE ARE PART OF THE OPERATIONS THAT THEY COULD HAVE. OKAY. OKAY. SO IT'S THE OPERATIONS THEN THAT ARE MAYBE CAUSING SOME OF THE WORRY. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT WOULD BE A FAIR ASSESSMENT. OKAY. AND WITH THIS, AND I'M STRUGGLING WITH THIS ONE. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A SITE PLAN HERE THAT IDENTIFIES I NINE OR 11 BUILDINGS. I'M NOT REAL SURE FROM THE WAY I'M SEEING THIS ON MY SCREEN. AND OF THOSE NINE, THEY ALL HAVE TO FIT THE SIZE, THE BUILDING SIZE, AND THE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS [02:10:01] OF C TWO. SO THERE IS NO BUILDING SIZE LIMITATION. WHAT, WHAT THE SITE PLAN IS SHOWING IS THEIR RESTRICTION ON THE LIMITATION OF BUILDINGS. THE BUILDINGS CONSTRUCTED WOULD HAVE TO MEET THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION OF 25 FEET FOR C TWO AS WELL. OKAY. BUT THERE'S NO BUILDING SIZE LIMIT? NO, NOT FOR C TWO. ON THE SITE PLAN THOUGH, THEY ARE SHOWING A SIZE LIMITATION ON BUILDINGS. CAN, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THAT IS? 'CAUSE I SERIOUSLY CANNOT READ IT FROM HERE. I'M GONNA PROBABLY HAVE THE APPLICANT. CAN I ASK THE APPLICANT TO INDICATE THOSE SIZE LIMITATIONS THAT THEY'RE SHOWING FOR EACH BUILDING, PLEASE? YEAH. MM-HMM. ? YES. CAROLINE MCDONALD. UM, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, THOSE, THOSE TWO ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THE, THE EAST SIDE, UM, ARE LIMITED TO 5,000 SQUARE FEET EACH. AND THEN, UH, THE TINY HOMES AT THE BOTTOM? UM, I BELIEVE, YES, A TOTAL OF 6,000 SQUARE FEET. 6,000. OKAY. AND I GUESS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, UH, BACK TO, SORRY, CITY STAFF. THANK YOU, CAROLINE. SO, UM, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE DENSITY WOULD WORK HERE. ARE WE, ARE THESE GONNA BE TREATED LIKE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, OR ARE THESE, UH, I DON'T KNOW, DUPLEXES? I MEAN, HOW IS THIS, THIS IS JUST KIND OF MESSING WITH MY HEAD HERE. WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE COTTAGES, THESE ARE JUST STRUCTURES, UH, FOR HOUSING. SO THIS IS JUST ABOUT HOUSING PEOPLE. THAT'S WHAT, UH, ONE OF THE OPERATIONS IS. OKAY. SO THEY COULD BE MORE LIKE AN APARTMENT UNIT. IT, IT CAN LOOK LIKE AN APARTMENT UNIT. IT CAN LOOK LIKE, UH, INDIVIDUALS, SINGLE HOMES. UH, IT'S JUST ABOUT HOUSING. THAT'S WHAT THIS USE IS ABOUT. OKAY. WELL, I'M, I'M, I'M, WHAT I'M TRYING TO WORK MY WAY TOWARDS IS, IS THERE A MAXIMUM DENSITY THAT CAN BE ESTABLISHED HERE? I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 29 TODAY, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE THIS CAN GROW TO, IS MY QUESTION. SO ZONING. SO IS YOUR MAXIMUM DENSITY ZONING WON'T REGULATE THE DENSITY? WHAT WILL REGULATE THE DENSITY IS THE, THE BUILDING SIZE LIMITATIONS IN THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE. SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR A BEDROOM, UH, WHICH THEN DETERMINES HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT YOU CAN HAVE IN THAT SAFELY THAT ULTIMATELY WILL GIVE YOU WHAT YOUR OCCUPANCY GROUP IS. IN OTHER WORDS, HOW MANY MAXIMUM PEOPLE CAN I HAVE IN THIS BUILDING BASED ON HOW IT IS, UM, HOW IT IS FURNISHED INSIDE, WHETHER IT'S, UH, BEDROOMS, WHETHER IT'S LIVING ROOMS, BUT WHETHER IT'S KITCHENS THAT THE BUILDING CODE AND THE FIRE CODE IS WHAT DETERMINES WHAT THAT OCCUPANCY IS, NOT THE ZONING. SO IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS SAYING MF 33 ON X ACRES GIVES YOU THIS MANY UNITS? NO, NOT THE SAME. NO. OKAY. UM, ALL RIGHT. UM, I TOO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, WHICH IS A LITTLE OUTSIDE THE LAND USE COMPONENT, BUT I JUST KIND OF WANNA UNDERSTAND SOMETHING ON THE PROGRAM. UM, WOULD YOU PREFER MS. MCDONALD OR MS RE? UH, EITHER IS FINE. IT, IT'S, IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 29 YOUNG WOMEN COMING INTO THE PROGRAM, AND MY QUESTION JUST GOES TO, IF THEY DECIDE TO, UM, NOT COMPLY WITH WHATEVER YOUR REQUIREMENTS ARE, ARE THEY ALLOWED TO RESIDE THERE FOR FOUR YEARS WHILE THEY TRY TO FIND THEIR ALTERNATE TRAINING TO WHATEVER JOB PREFERENCE THEY WANT, OR THEY, UM, REQUESTED TO MOVE ON SO THAT SOMEONE ELSE CAN TAKE THAT SLOT? THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. UM, WE ANTICIPATE THAT THERE WILL BE AGREEMENTS THAT THE RESIDENTS WILL, UH, WILL AG AGREE TO BEFORE COMING IN. AND SO IF THEY WANNA GO THEIR OWN WAY, THEN THEY WILL HAVE TO MOVE INTO THEIR OWN, UH, HOUSE AND, AND FOLLOW THEIR, DO THEIR OWN EDUCATION, THEIR OWN JOB TRAINING. AND THEN THAT WOULD FREE UP A SPOT FOR A NEW PERSON TO COME INTO THE BUILDING. OKAY. UM, AND I, AGAIN, I MISSED SOME OF THE DISCUSSION EARLIER, AND I APOLOGIZE IF YOU SAID THIS, BUT WHAT OTHER, UH, SERVICES WILL THEY BE PROVIDED? SO THEY'LL GET THEIR HOUSING AND I GUESS FOOD AND EDUCATION, WILL THEY HAVE MEDICAL, DENTAL, UH, WHAT OTHER SERVICES ARE GONNA BE PROVIDED? SO FOR, FOR SURE, CHILDCARE FOR YOUNG WOMEN WHO ARE YOUNG MOTHERS CASE MANAGEMENT, TO DETERMINE WHAT OTHER SORT OF SERVICES, UM, THEY'RE NEEDING TO, TO REMAIN STABLE IN, IN THEIR CAREER. THEY'LL BE GETTING AN INDIVIDUALIZED SUPPORT PLAN, UM, FOR THEIR EDUCATION AND, UH, CAREER DEVELOPMENT, UM, HEALTH AND DENTAL, UH, THROUGH OUR [02:15:01] HEALTH EQUITY PROGRAM, WE PROVIDE ACCESS TO OUR CL UH, FOR OUR CLIENTS TO THE COMMUNITY. SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE EXPLORED IS HAVING IT ON SITE, BUT AGAIN, THAT, THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE COMMUNITY, UM, TO HELP US DECIDE. I KNOW RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER THERE IS A CLINIC, AND SO, UM, FACILITATING VISITS THERE, UH, WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD LOOK INTO. OKAY. AND, UM, LIKE YOUR HOURS ARE OPERATIONAL FOR THIS CAMPUS. IS THIS KIND OF A OPEN CAMPUS OR IS IT CLOSED DOWN AT NIGHT FOR SECURITY REASONS? OR DESCRIBE TO ME HOW THAT WORKS. WE WOULD ENVISION THIS AS A CLOSED CAMPUS AT NIGHT, UM, AND EXPLORE SECURITY OPTIONS, WHETHER IT'S A, A KEY CODE AT THE GATE OR A CARD. UM, THE MAIN BUILDING WILL HAVE SECURITY. THE, THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE THERE WILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH A CURFEW. WE'LL HAVE LIMITATIONS ON THE ACTIVITIES THAT WILL BE ABLE TO BE, UH, CONDUCTED. UM, JUST REQUIREMENTS FOR BEHAVIOR, ESPECIALLY SINCE THERE WILL BE YOUNG CHILDREN ON SITE AND THERE ARE MODELS FOR THIS IN SAN ANTONIO. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UM, I'LL LET YOU ASK THAT QUESTION IN A SECOND, BUT I HAVE A FEW MORE. FIRST. UM, ALRIGHT, STEPH, TO YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BUFFERS ON THE SITE PLAN, UH, BUT IN THIS CASE, UH, PUTTING ASIDE THE HUMAN SERVICES CAMPUS ASPECT, A C TWO THAT'S UP AGAINST RESIDENTIAL REQUIRES A BUFFER, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. 15 FEET. AND THAT'S THE TYPE BUFFER TYPE B BUFFER? CORRECT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, AND OUR JOB AS ZONING COMMISSION IS NOT TO NECESSARILY WORRY ABOUT DESIGN NUMBER FLOORS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT TO WORRY ABOUT USES CORRECT USES AND IN THE CASE OF THE SITE PLAN, ANY OTHER FURTHER RESTRICTIONS SUCH AS ADDITIONAL SETBACKS, ADDITIONAL BUFFERS, HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER WITH THE SITE PLAN COMPONENT? ALL RIGHT. AND I WANT TO HIT THIS AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S A PROBLEM THAT I'M GONNA DISCUSS, BUT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE DEFINITION OF HUMAN SERVICES CAMPUS, WE CAN'T PICK AND CHOOSE WHICH OPERATIONS ARE INCLUDED IN A ZONING REQUEST. THAT'S CORRECT. UM, MS. MCDONALD, BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO DO IT OFFICIALLY, YOU MENTIONED IT, UM, YOU ARE AMENDING YOUR REQUEST TO C TWO N A CONDITIONAL USE FOR HUMAN SERVICES CAMPUS, CORRECT? YES, SIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMISSIONER, WHITE QUESTIONS AND THEN COMMISSIONER RE BOTTLES? YEAH, TWO, TWO QUICK ONES. UM, THE, THE DOTTED LINES TO THE RIGHT PROPOSED FUTURE CAMPUS STRUCTURES, 5,000 SQUARE FEET EACH, THOSE WOULD POTENTIALLY BE HOUSING OR DEFINITELY NOT BE HOUSING RIGHT NOW, THE PLAN FOR THOSE ARE TO EXPAND THE CHILDCARE SERVICES OR SOME OF THE TRAINING CHILDCARE SERVICES. MM-HMM. OR THE, THE TRAIN JOB TRAINING, EDUCATIONAL TRAINING. OKAY. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, 24 PEOPLE IN THE MAIN STRUCTURE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, PER THIS, THIS PLAN HERE, POTENTIALLY NINE OTHER LITTLE HOMES? YES, SIR. OKAY. UM, SECOND QUESTION, AND I EARLIER, BUT AROUND THIS CAMPUS I SEE I ONE, SOME C THREES, C TWO, UM, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THERE? SURE. SO THE I ONE AND THE C THREE, THAT'S THE SILVER EAGLE, I THINK BUDWEISER, UH, DISTRIBUTOR, UM, UH, WE HAVE A FAMILY DOLLAR ACROSS THE STREET IN THE OH ONE. WE ALSO HAVE A CHURCH. UM, I, AND I THINK THERE'S VARIOUS OTHER COMMERCIAL USES. OKAY. THANKS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER, WHITE, COMMISSIONER BOTTLES TO YOU, JUST A SIMPLE QUESTION. WHO IS THE PRESENT OWNER OF THE BUILDING OF THAT FACILITY? WHO OWNS ALL THAT? UH, YES SIR. THE Y W SIR, THE Y W C A OUTSET. AND SECOND QUESTION. I NOTE THAT, UM, THE APPLICANT MENTIONED WORKING WITH TEXAS A AND M UNIVERSITY AND, AND ANOTHER UNIVERSITY ALSO IN PROGRAMS. ARE, ARE YOU ALL ALSO INCLUDING OUR LADY OF THE LAKE? ABSOLUTELY. WE, WE WORK WITH THEM ALREADY, UM, IN, IN A LOT OF OTHER SITUATIONS, OUR HEALTH PROGRAM. SO WE'D BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THEM AS WELL FOR THIS. THE REASON FOR MY QUESTION IS ALL THESE COLLEGES ALREADY HAVE GREAT JOB TRAINING, SO IT IS A PERFECT [02:20:01] MATCH. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BOTTLES. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER WATSON, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR, UM, IT'S BEEN MENTIONED THAT THERE IS A DESIRE TO DO A MASTER PLANNING PROCESS IN THE FUTURE THAT WILL DETERMINE SOME OF THE FINAL DECISIONS AROUND THESE DOTTED BUILDINGS. CAN YOU PLEASE CLARIFY TO WHAT EXTENT, IF ANY, UM, SINCE THEY'VE MENTIONED THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK, IF THIS SITE PLAN CHANGES LIKE THAT INTERACTS WITH ZONING, WHAT WOULD THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT? SO IT'LL DEPEND ON THE RESULT OF THAT MASTER PLANNING PROCESS. IF THE END RESULT IS ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS, UH, THEN WHAT'S SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN, THEN THAT'S A MAJOR AMENDMENT. IF THE, IF THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS IS ABOUT, UM, HOW THOSE BUILDINGS ARE CURRENTLY SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN ARE UTILIZED AND MAYBE DESIGNED OR ORIENTED, AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK. ARE THERE ANY CITY ENTITIES THAT ARE REQUIRED TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS OR THAT WOULD BE REGULATING THAT PROCESS IN ANY WAY? NO, NO. THAT WOULD BE A PRIVATE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS BETWEEN, UM, THE ORGANIZATION AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. EITHER THE ATTORNEY OR THE DIRECTOR CAN ANSWER, I BELIEVE BEAT UP. SORRY. UM, YOU MENTIONED, WELL, I THINK MS. RE MENTIONED EARLIER THAT IT WAS GONNA BE A CLOSED CAMPUS AT NIGHT. UM, CAN WE CLARIFY IF IT'S OPEN DURING THE DAY AND WHAT, IF ANY, TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF THE PROPERTY BESIDES STAFF AND, UH, RESIDENTS WOULD BE UTILIZING THIS? YEAH, SO IT IS OPEN DURING THE DAY. UM, THEY WILL BE ACCEPTING OR PROVIDING CHILDCARE SERVICES TO PEOPLE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, UM, AS WELL AS THOSE LIVING ON ON SITE. THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WATSON. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMERS TO MY LEFT. SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ALRIGHT. UM, THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE AS WE KNOW. AND SO IT IS TO ME, AND I THINK AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED, A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS IN THIS CASE ARE FUNCTIONS OF, UH, A DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT HAS ENOUGH ROOM TO DRIVE A SEMI-TRUCK THROUGH. AND IT IS MY HOPE THAT THROUGH THE AMENDMENT PROCESS, WE CAN REMEDY SOME OF THE PROBLEMS HERE, UH, THAT ARE IDENTIFIED TO BASICALLY ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS FROM THE NEIGHBORS TO LIMIT THE OPERATIONAL USES UNDER SOMETHING NOT AS BROAD AS THE HUMAN SERVICES CAMPUS. BUT THAT OF COURSE IS JUST WIND RIGHT NOW. UH, WE DEAL WITH THE CODE AS WE FIND IT TODAY. I THINK I'M SADDENED, BUT IT APPEARS WE'VE HAD A TREMENDOUS BREAKDOWN, UH, AND TRUST AND COMMUNICATION. I THINK, I DON'T WANNA POINT FINGERS, I DON'T WANT ANYONE ELSE TO POINT FINGERS. UM, BUT I THINK WE DO NEED A RESET THERE. AND I HOPE THAT EVERY PARTY, ALL BEING PEOPLE OF GOODWILL CAN FIND A WAY TO GET BACK AND START TO INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER AND TO FIND A SOLUTION, UH, THAT WILL BENEFIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WILL BENEFIT THE CITY, AND WILL BENEFIT, UM, THESE YOUNG WOMEN WHO NEED A PLACE TO STAY. UM, I HAVE WORKED WITH FOSTER CHILDREN. I HAVE SEEN THEM COME OUT OF THE FOSTER CARE SYSTEM AND NOT HAVE A PLACE TO GO. AND I HAVE SPOKEN TO EXPERTS AT U T S A, UH, PROFESSOR LYNCH, WHO INFORMED ME THAT THAT IS A POPULATION THAT IS TREMENDOUSLY AT RISK TO HOMELESSNESS, TO TRAFFICKING, AND TO ANY NUMBER OF ILLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. AND AS MS. RATRAY POINTED OUT, 300 YOUNG WOMEN AS AN ESTIMATE COME OUT OF OUR FOSTER CARE SYSTEM EVERY YEAR HERE IN BEXAR COUNTY. THIS IS NOT A COMPLETE SOLUTION, BUT IT'S A START. AND SO I UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS, I UNDERSTAND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, ALTHOUGH [02:25:01] I DO DISAGREE WITH IT, I KNOW WHY STAFF HAD TO MAKE IT. I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION IN THIS CASE IS WRONG. IF WE LOOK AT THE USE THAT IS GOING ON HERE, I WOULD SAY IT PREDOMINATES AS RESIDENTIAL. IT IS EVEN WITH THE COMMERCIAL ASPECTS OF IT FOR JOB TRAINING, FOR EDUCATION, FOR CHILDCARE, LESS INTENSIVE THAN THE MF 33 THAT IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE. THAT IN COMBINATION WITH THE RESTRICTIONS TO THE SITE PLAN TO LIMIT THAT USAGE TO HAVE THESE BUFFERS HERE LEADS ME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THIS IS A PROJECT THAT DESERVES SUPPORT, THAT DESERVES THIS ZONING REQUEST TO BE APPROVED. AND AGAIN, I CANNOT INDICATE ENOUGH HOW SADDENED I AM THAT WE HAD THIS BREAKDOWN. I'M SADDENED BY THE FACT THAT WE HAVE COMMUNITIES IN THE CITY, NOT JUST IN DISTRICT FIVE, BUT THROUGHOUT WHERE PEOPLE FEEL THAT THEY ARE BEING STEPPED ON, THAT THEY ARE BEING IGNORED, AND WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW TO AVOID THAT. AND I'M HOPING, AND MS. MCDONALD, I'M LOOKING RIGHT AT YOU THAT THAT MEETING THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ON SATURDAY, PRESUMING THIS GOES THROUGH, OR IF IT DOESN'T, THAT YOU WILL MEET WITH THOSE COMMUNITIES. AND MS. PENA, I HOPE YOU WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO MEET AND TO TALK AND TO COME OUT FOR WHAT'S BEST, NOT JUST FOR DISTRICT FIVE, BUT WHAT IS BEST FOR THIS CITY. AND I TRULY BELIEVE THIS PROJECT IS A FIRST NECESSARY AND BEST STEP FOR THIS CITY. THAT BEING SAID, I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THE AMENDED REQUEST TO C TWO N A CD WITH SPECI, WITH USE FOR A HUMAN SERVICES CAMPUS. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. ME TOO, MR. CHAIR. THERE IS A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BOTTLES, UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT COMMISSIONER WATSON. UH, THIS IS A PRETTY TOUGH CASE FOR ME. UM, I VALUE VERY GREATLY THE MISSION OF THE Y W C A AND AS A NONPROFIT PROFESSIONAL, THEIR STANDARD OF PROFESSIONALISM AND EXECUTING THEIR MISSION IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST, UM, IN THE CITY AND NATIONALLY AS WELL. AND I, I KNOW THAT THIS PROJECT IS TAKEN, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE BEST INTENTIONS, UM, POSSIBLE. UM, I ALSO LIVE IN A DISTRICT THAT HAS SIMILAR ISSUES WITH NEIGHBORHOODS BEING STEPPED ON AND PEOPLE, UM, NOT BEING ABLE TO ACCESS PUBLIC INPUT OPPORTUNITIES AND FEELING, UM, PUSHED OVER. AND I'M VERY DISHEARTENED BY SOME OF THE COMMENTS I'VE HEARD TODAY ABOUT HOW NEIGHBORHOODS WERE DEALT WITH. UM, AS MUCH AS I APPRECIATE THE MISSION, UM, AND THE, THE, UH, GOAL OF THIS PROJECT, UM, THE LACK OF RESPECT IS A BIG CONCERN FOR ME. UM, BUT ULTIMATELY WE'RE HERE TO DEAL WITH LAND USE AND, UM, I, LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT, UM, REALLY THE FACT THAT MF 33 IS THE ALTERNATIVE, UM, IS THE THING THAT MAY SWAY MY DECISION, WHICH IS YET TO BE MADE BECAUSE THIS IS A LESS INTENSE USE, UM, AND I THINK WILL HAVE LESS ADVERSE IMPACT POTENTIALLY, UM, IN TERMS OF DENSITY, UM, IN TERMS OF THE GOAL, UM, OF THE PROJECT AND SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY IN THIS AREA AND MORE BROADLY IN THE CITY. UM, BUT I'M JUST GONNA UNDERSCORE AGAIN, RESPECT'S A BIG DEAL AND THAT CAN MAKE OR BREAK A PROJECT. AND, UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, IF IT DOES IN FACT MOVE FORWARD, UM, DEFINITELY TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS YOU MOVE THROUGH THE NEXT PHASES OF THE PROJECT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WHITE. YEAH, BRIEFLY, UM, JUST ECHOING THE COMMENTS OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. I MEAN, THIS IS A LAND USE QUESTION FOR ME, JUST LIKE EVERYONE IS, EVERY CASE THAT COMES BEFORE US, IT'S A REALLY CLOSE CALL. THE CODE IS AN ABSOLUTE DISASTER FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, UM, AND NEEDS TO BE FIXED. BUT THAT SAID, UH, AS OUR CHAIR SAID, IT IS WHAT IT IS. WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT. AND I, IN MY OPINION, IS THIS, UM, THE LAND USE FITS FOR, FOR THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION. I THINK IT IS A NOBLE CAUSE. I BELIEVE THE OPERATOR IS GONNA RUN IT IN A RESPONSIBLE MANNER AND, UM, FOR THOSE REASONS, I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT DISCUSSION. OKAY, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER WHEAT. UH, WITH RESPECT TO OUR CHAIR, I WILL [02:30:01] NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION BECAUSE I BELIEVE THERE'S STILL ROOM FOR DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE NEIGHBORS. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS, UM, WHATEVER TOOK PLACE BEFORE. WE NEED THAT, THAT CONVERSATION. WE NEED TO HAVE A RESET. AND BY NOT SUPPORTING THIS MOTION, I'M HOPING THAT IT WOULD INCENTIVIZE THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE DEVELOPERS TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, HAVE A SIT DOWN AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IS IT THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. AND, YOU KNOW, DON'T GET ME WRONG, I SUPPORT THE MISSION OF THE Y W C A, BUT AGAIN, WE NEED THAT CONVERSATION AND WE NEED THAT COME TOGETHER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. THANK YOU CHAIR. UM, AGAIN, VERY WORTHWHILE PROJECT. A VERY TOUGH CASE. UM, I, I TOO AM A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED WITH THE WAY THE COMMUNITY, UM, AND THE APPLICANT FEEL LIKE THEY'VE NOT COMMUNICATED VERY WELL AND WHATEVER'S GOING ON, I REALLY ENCOURAGE THE PARTIES TO COME BACK TOGETHER AND TRY TO WORK THIS OUT. UM, FOR ME, WITH REGARD TO THE LAND USE THING, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOT F 33, I THINK THAT THAT WAS LOOKED AT PREVIOUSLY AND LORD KNOWS WE HEAR THE ARGUMENT EVERY OTHER CASE HOW WE NEED TO ADD MORE HOUSING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO MAYBE SOME MARKET RATE APARTMENTS MIGHT ALSO BE VERY ATTRACTIVE THERE. UM, I JUST HAVE SOME HEARTBURN WHEN I LOOK AT THE LAND USE AND OF SOMEWHAT UNSURE C TWO DEVELOPMENT COMING IN THE FUTURE. AND WHILE YES, ANY, ANY CHANGE TO THE SITE PLAN MIGHT REQUIRE A VISIT BACK, THAT DOESN'T HELP THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING THERE TODAY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR COMMUNITY MAY LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE. UH, SO I AM, I'M STRUGGLING WITH THAT COMPONENT RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? TO MY LEFT? SEEING NONE TO MY RIGHT. SEEING NONE. ALRIGHT. THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED BY ME WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS. ROLL CALL, VOTE CHAIR. BUSANTE AYE. COMMISSIONER BARTOS? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE? NO. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? NO. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED. THANK YOU ALL. I HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A GOOD DAY AND PLEASE BEAR IN MIND THE ADMONITIONS FROM THOSE ON THIS DAAS AS Y'ALL GO FORWARD, I HOPE YOU'RE ABLE TO RESET AND OPEN A LINE OF COMMUNICATION IN GOOD FAITH. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. ALRIGHT, WE WILL MOVE ON NOW TO ITEM NUMBER 10. GOOD AFTERNOON. FOREST WILSON, SENIOR PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER 10 IS CASE Z 2021. 1 0 7 0 0 2 5 3. GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 5,400 BLOCK OF ROGERS ROAD. IT'S REQUESTING TO REZONE FROM C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO MF 25 LOW DENSITY MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. THERE WERE 23 NOTICES MAILED TWO IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED THE MOUNTAIN VIEW ACRES NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION IS OPPOSED AND THERE WERE 14 OPPOSED OUTSIDE OF 200 FOOT BUFFER. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN THE WEST SLASH SOUTHWEST SECTOR PLAN AND IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED AS GENERAL URBAN TIER IN THE LAND USE COMPONENT OF THE PLAN. THE REQUESTED MF 25 LOW DENSITY MULTIFAMILY BASED ZONING DISTRICT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT LAND USE DESIGNATION AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DEVELOP 370 UNITS AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND APPLICANT'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. HI, THANK YOU. HI, ASHLEY FAIRMONT KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMONT 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE. UM, THANK YOU ALL. UM, DO HAVE A, A PRESENTATION. UM, WE WERE HERE ABOUT A MONTH AGO IN JANUARY ON THIS REQUEST. UH, WE CAME IN WITH AN MF 33. UM, THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW IS CURRENTLY ZONED C THREE. UM, AND WE WERE LOOKING AT AMENDING OUR REQUEST TO LOWER THE DENSITY. SO WE HAVE GONE DOWN TO MF 25, BUT IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE HAD TO, TO RE-NOTICE BECAUSE WE WEREN'T WITHIN THAT NOTIFICATION RANGE. UH, SO THAT, THAT'S WHY IT'S BEEN A LITTLE WHILE SINCE WE'VE BEEN BACK. , PLEASE. [02:35:01] THANK YOU. SO, UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT ON WHERE WE ARE. 1 51 16 0 4 HERE. UM, HE, WE HAVE, LET'S SEE, THE WELLS FARGO CAMPUS, NORTHWEST VISTA OVER HERE. WE HAVE TWO LARGE SHOPPING CENTERS, UM, DATA CENTERS, CALL CENTERS IN THIS AREA. UH, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, OF COURSE, SEAWORLD DOWN HERE. SO, UM, WE ARE THIS SITE HERE ABOUT 14 AND A HALF ACRES OR SO ON ROGERS ROAD, UH, CURRENTLY ZONED C THREE. JUST ZOOMING IN A LITTLE BIT, UM, ALREADY SHOWING UP HERE ON GOOGLE. BUT, UH, IF YOU RECALL, WE, WE MENTIONED THERE'S A NEW METHODIST HOSPITAL GOING IN ON THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO US. UH, HERE'S THE ZONING MAP. SO ALL, ALL OF THIS READ IS THAT C THREE. UM, AGAIN, WE'RE ARE REQUESTING AN MF 25. WE THINK THAT THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE BUFFER BETWEEN THE MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL, UM, AND ALSO A GOOD USE TO SERVICE ALL OF THAT EXISTING COMMERCIAL, UM, AND OFFICES IN THE AREA. I, UH, ONE THING I DO WANNA MENTION THIS IS, IS NOT A CASE THAT REQUIRED A PLAN AMENDMENT. WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT, UH, WEST AND, UH, SOUTHWEST, I BELIEVE SECTOR PLAN AS GENERAL URBAN TIER. SO MF 25 IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT. UH, THE CITY'S ALSO WORKING ON A NEW REGIONAL CENTER PLAN FOR THIS AREA, THE 1 51 AND LOOP 1604 REGIONAL CENTER. UM, THAT PLAN IS NOT FINALIZED, BUT IT'S IN ITS DRAFT FORM AND, AND WE'RE CURRENTLY DESIGNATED IN THAT PLAN AS AN URBAN MIXED USE. AGAIN, PROVIDING THAT BUFFER BETWEEN THE REGIONAL MIXED USE AT THE HARD CORNER, UH, AND THEN THE, THE SINGLE FAMILY AND LOWER INTENSITY COMMERCIAL ALONG ROGERS ROAD. EXCELLENT. UH, SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT DETAILS. SO WHEN WE CAME TO YOU BEFORE, AGAIN, WE WERE AT MF 33, THAT WAS 479 UNITS WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM. UM, SO WE HAVE TAKEN THAT DOWN TO AN MF 25, UH, 370 UNITS WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM ON THAT. THE PROJECT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW, UM, PRIMARILY ONE BEDROOM WITH SOME TWO BEDROOM AND A LITTLE BIT OF THREE BEDROOMS. UH, AND THEN A, A CLASS, A MARKET RATE PROJECT IS WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. ALSO, UM, THE DEVELOPER IS WORKING WITH METHODIST ON PROVIDING, UM, A PARTNERSHIP FOR TENANTS SO THAT THEY CAN LIVE NEAR THE HOSPITAL. UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, NURSES, DOCTORS, ANYBODY WHO WORKS THERE WOULD HAVE, UM, A DISCOUNTED RATE AT THIS SITE. UH, WE HAVE BEEN BEEN WORKING WITH MOUNTAIN VIEW ACRES, UM, FOR SOME TIME AND WE APPRECIATE, I KNOW BECKY'S HERE, UM, HER, HER WILLINGNESS TO COMMUNICATE AND MEET WITH US THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED, UM, ARE BUILDING SETBACKS ALONG ROGERS ROAD, UH, LIMITING HEIGHT, UH, LANDSCAPING ON ROGERS ROAD. UM, AND I WON'T MENTION THE LAST ONE. IT'S A HOT TOPIC TODAY, SO, UM, BUT, BUT WE ARE STILL AGREEABLE TO DOING ALL OF THOSE THINGS AS WELL AS, UM, TAKING THE DENSITY DOWN TO WHAT WE'VE PREVIOUSLY TALKED ABOUT. UM, JUST SOME OF THE BENEFITS. I'VE, I'VE ALREADY TOUCHED ON MOST OF THESE, SO, UH, I'LL GET THROUGH 'EM THEN QUICKLY. BUT LIMITATION ON HEIGHT, GETTING RID OF THOSE C THREE USES. UM, I THINK WE HEARD A LOT LAST AT THE LAST MEETING ABOUT TRAFFIC CONCERNS, UM, PEOPLE DRIVING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, CONCERNS WITH THE AMOUNT OF MULTIFAMILY IN THE AREA. UM, BUT, AND I'LL SHOW YOU IN A MINUTE, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH ENGINEERS ON THIS PROJECT ON TRAFFIC COUNTS. UM, THE ALTERNATIVE, IF NOT DEVELOPED FOR HOUSING, IF IT KEEPS THE SAME C C THREE ZONING WILL BE AN INTENSE COMMERCIAL USE, MORE THAN LIKELY MID-RISE TYPE OFFICE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S SUPPORTIVE OF THE OTHER USES IN THE AREA, THE MEDICAL THAT'S COMING IN, UM, WHICH IS A, A SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER TRAFFIC GENERATOR. UM, SO AGAIN, AS YOU HEAR A LOT, UM, THE SITE ISN'T GONNA REMAIN VACANT. THERE WILL BE SOMETHING THAT GOES HERE AND WE BELIEVE THAT THE MULTIFAMILY IS THE LOWER TRAFFIC USE OF, OF THE ALTERNATIVES. UM, ANOTHER THING TO MENTION WAS YOU SAW THE, THE SITE HAS, UH, QUITE A BIT OF TREES ON IT. UM, THERE IS CURRENTLY VESTED RIGHTS ON THE SITE FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. SO IF WE CHANGE TO MULTIFAMILY, THAT WILL BE, UM, LOST AND WE'LL HAVE TO DEVELOP UNDER THE CURRENT TREE ORDINANCE. THIS WAS JUST THAT TRAFFIC WORKSHEET, UH, THAT WE HAD PUT TOGETHER ON, UH, TWO MID-RISE TYPE OFFICE BUILDINGS WITH THE, THE PEAK HOUR TRIPS BEING AROUND A LITTLE OVER 8,000. UM, AND THEN THE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, THE 370 UNITS BEING PROPOSED WITH THE PEAK HOUR TRIPS BEING LESS THAN 3000, ABOUT 2,700. UM, THERE'S ALSO BEEN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT DRAINAGE. I'LL SKIP THROUGH THIS QUICKLY, BUT THIS IS A MANDATORY DETENTION AREA, SO WE'LL HAVE TO DETAIN ON SITE, UH, ANY STORMWATER RUNOFF. AND FINALLY, AGAIN, UM, JUST TO REITERATE, WE THINK THAT THE HOUSING HERE, EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF MULTIFAMILY, UM, IN THIS AREA, THIS IS AN AREA THAT IS GROWING VERY, VERY QUICKLY. THERE IS A LOT OF JOB CREATION [02:40:01] HERE. THERE ARE A LOT OF NEW USES COMING IN, AND WE BELIEVE THAT THE HOUSING, UM, IS NEEDED TO SUPPORT THOSE, UM, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, KEEP PEOPLE IN THE AREA TO MINIMIZE THE TRIPS. SO IF WE CAN PROVIDE MORE HOUSING, UM, FOR PEOPLE WHO WORK HERE, GO TO SCHOOL HERE, UM, EMPLOYEES OF THE HOSPITAL, YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S THE GOAL. SO, UM, WITH THAT I WILL STOP, HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH STAFF. IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT? YES SIR. WE HAVE SALLY FLETCHER. UH, MS. FLETCHER, ARE YOU PRESENT? I KNOW, I THINK I SAW SOME PEOPLE HAVING TO GO. OKAY. YEAH. UM, SO MS. FLETCHER AND MR. FLETCHER WERE HERE. THEY HAD TO LEAVE. THEY DID LEAVE THEIR COMMENTS, UH, FOR, UH, THE CASE. UH, SO, BUT I WON'T JUST NOTE THAT THEY WERE IN OPPOSITION. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. SO THE FLETCHERS WILL BE NOTED FOR THE RECORD IN OPPOSITION. NEXT, PLEASE. REBECCA FLORES PERES. UH, MS. FLORES PERES, REBECCA FLORES, PERES 1 0 2 3 OH MOUNT CROSBY. I LIVE IN THE MOUNTAIN VIEW, UH, ESTATE SUBDIVISION. I'M ALSO THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING, UH, THE RESIDENTS OF THAT COALITION. UH, LET ME START BY SAYING THAT WE ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS ZONING REQUEST. WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER AND OR HIS REPRESENTATIVES. WE FEEL THAT THIS REQUEST IS NOT SUITABLE FOR OUR AREA. WE ARE A SMALL AND UNIQUE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE DO NOT HAVE SIDEWALKS OR CURBS. WE, MANY OF US STILL HAVE, UH, WELLS AND SEPTIC TANKS. WE LOVE OUR COUNTRY LOOKING SUBDIVISION IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR GROWING CITY. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, YOU CAN TELL WE ARE A VERY SMALL AREA SURROUNDED BY A LOT OF BUSINESSES AND APARTMENTS AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF, UM, OF, UH, BUSINESSES. IF THIS REQUEST FOR OVER 375 APARTMENTS OR THREE 70 IS APPROVED, WE WILL HAVE OVER 1200 APARTMENTS, THOSE THAT ARE ALREADY BUILT ON ROGERS ROAD AND THOSE THAT ARE SCHEDULED TO BE BUILT ON ROGERS ROAD IN LESS THAN A STRIP OF, OF A MILE BETWEEN CULEBRA AND WISEMAN. IN THE PAST WE HAVE WORKED WITH OTHER DEVELOPERS AND UNDERSTOOD THAT APARTMENT GROWTH WAS NEEDED. WE ASK YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER THESE NUMBERS. IT'S A VERY HIGH NUMBER FOR THAT LITTLE STRIP OF ROAD THAT'S NOT COUNTING APARTMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY ON COLLIBRA OR EVEN OVER ON UH, WESTOVER VALLEY AREA. SO IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR PLACES FOR THESE DOCTORS FOR THE MEDICAL CENTER TO, TO STAY AT, THERE ARE ALREADY APARTMENTS THERE ON ROGERS ROAD THAT WOULD BE OPEN TO THEM. UH, WE ARE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE OVERCROWDING OF OUR SCHOOLS AND THE DEMAND ON OUR POLICE FORCE FORCE BECAUSE YOU'RE ADDING ADDITIONAL BODIES IN, UH, INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED AS THREE C THREE AND AS NEIGHBORS WE ARE PREPARED FOR AND HAVE ACCEPTED THIS ZONING SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING. THIS AREA IS NON-RESIDENTIAL, REGIONAL COMMERCIAL OFFICE, GENERALLY BIG BOX OR POWER CENTERS, SHOPPING MALLS, MOVIE THEATERS, HOSPITALS, OFFICE COMPLEXES, LABORATORIES, WHOLESALERS, ANYTHING, UH, LIGHT MANUFACTURING THAT ARE, THAT IS IN THE WEST SOUTHWEST, UH, SECTOR PLAN. WE DO WANT TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT AND EXPAND THE EXTENSION OF BUSINESSES AND THE ESTABLISHMENT OF FUTURE BUSINESSES AND ENSURE THAT THEY'RE COMPATIBLE AND SUSTAINABLE WITHIN OUR RESIDENTIAL AREA. THAT'S THE KEY THERE. OUR RESIDENTIAL AREA, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS BIG COM, YOU KNOW, AREA. THE PLANNING FOR THE USE OF LAND AS DENSITY AND POPULATION INCREASES WHERE WE LIVE AND WORK IS IMPORTANT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. ANY VOICEMAILS ALRIGHT, MS. FERRIMAN, BRIEF REBUTTAL? SURE. UM, NO, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT, THAT I'M HERE TODAY ASKING FOR THE CHANGE BECAUSE THERE IS DEMAND. UM, YOU KNOW, WE WOULDN'T BE ASKING FOR IT IF THERE WASN'T A NEED FOR MORE HOUSING. SO I, I DO THINK THAT I, I I VERY MUCH RESPECT EVERYTHING BECKY HAS TO SAY, BUT I DO THINK THAT THIS USE CAN BE COMPATIBLE, UM, WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY THAT'S ACROSS ROGERS. SO I DO THINK IT PROVIDES A NICE BUFFER BETWEEN THE HIGH INTENSITY COMMERCIAL IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, AND [02:45:01] HOPE YOU'LL SUPPORT IT. BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS IS A DISTRICT SIX CASE. UH, COMMISSIONER HU UH, THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I DO WANT TO THANK, UH, THE, UH, APPLICANT, APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVES AND THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION NAVAL ASSOCIATION FOR WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS PROJECT. AND I'VE HAD SEVERAL, SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH YOU AND I THINK THE NUMBERS FOR ME, I LOOK AT NOT JUST THIS ONE DEVELOPMENT, I LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENTS DOWN THE ROAD, RIGHT? AS BECKY MENTIONED WITH YOUR DEVELOPMENT, THERE'LL BE 1200 DOORS THAT WILL BE A ALONG ROGERS ROAD. NOW, PERSONALLY, I I I AGREE WE DO NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND EARLIER WE JUST APPROVED A LARGE MF 33, ABOUT A MILE DOWN THE ROAD ON MILITARY IN 1604. SO AGAIN, I RESPECT WE NEED THAT, BUT IN THIS CASE, I BELIEVE THAT PUTTING 1200 APARTMENTS ON THIS STRETCH OF ROGERS IS NOT BENEFICIAL TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I'M GOING TO, UM, MOVE TO DENY. ALRIGHT, UM, I'M GONNA HAVE TO START SAYING QUESTIONS ONLY AGAIN. UH, THAT'S ALL RIGHT. UH, THAT THERE IS A MOTION FOR DENIAL. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL GIVE A SECOND. ALRIGHT. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, IS THERE A SECOND? BUT WE'LL GO BACK TO ANY QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONERS. TO MY LEFT, I WANNA MAKE SURE, UM, THEY'RE NOT APPLYING FOR 1200 APARTMENTS. UH, THE PERMIT IS FOR ONLY 300 AND SO, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT MISLEADING THE PUBLIC. OKAY. UH, STAFF OR APPLICANT, YOU CAN CONFIRM HOW MANY THIS SPECIFIC APPLICATION IS FOR. RIGHT. THE APPLIC THE APPLICATION IS FOR MF 25 ZONING, WHICH IS ABOUT UP TO 370 UNITS. I I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'LL ACTUALLY BE THAT MANY UNITS BUILT, BUT I DO WANNA JUST BE CLEAR WHAT THE ZONING WOULD ALLOW FOR. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMERS TO MY LEFT. COMMERS MAK. COMMISSIONER SIPES, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, THE APPLICANT MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE THE, THERE IS A CHANGE IN ZONING THAT VESTED RIGHTS WOULD BE LOST ON THIS PROPERTY AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS AS C THREE. WHAT IS, IS THERE A LIMIT TO THE IMPERVIOUS COVER OR TO THE NUMBER OF TREES THAT CAN BE REMOVED? . OKAY. VESTED RIGHTS PERMIT RIGHTS. NOT A SIMPLE QUESTION OR A SIMPLE ANSWER. IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHEN THEY WERE VESTED TO ASSUMING THEY WERE VESTED. OKAY. THAT DETERMINES WHAT REGULATIONS THEY WOULD OR WOULD NOT HAVE TO COMPLY WITH. SO IT'S VERY FACT SPECIFIC AND USUALLY INVOLVES A PRETTY IN-DEPTH REVIEW TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION. OKAY. UM, LEMME SEE IF I CAN REWORD IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY. WOULD CHANGING TO AN MF DESIGNATION REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS COVER THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ALLOWED? IS, OR, OR IS THAT AGAIN REQUIRES LOTS OF DETAILED FROM A CHAPTER 34 QUESTION AND ANSWER? YES, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE JUST LOOKING AT WHAT THE CODE PROVIDES FOR COMMERCIAL IS 65% IMPERVIOUS COVER, MULTIFAMILY IS 50. THAT'S ADDRESSING THAT ISSUE ONLY, THAT'S WHAT THE CODE PROVIDES. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? IS THERE ENOUGH? UM, YES. QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU. ASHLEY, ARE YOU THERE? I, I AM. I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO LOOK. , BUT I'M HERE. , I DON'T KNOW WHERE I'M AT EITHER. . UM, I DO APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE AND TRYING TO WORK OUT SOMETHING WITH THE COMMUNITY. AND I, [02:50:01] I, I SUPPORTED THE EMOTION FOR DENIAL. 'CAUSE I'M, I'M STRUGGLING WITH THE DENSITY AND, AND BECAUSE I AM AWARE OF SEVERAL AREAS IN THE CITY WHERE WE STRUGGLE WITH THE SAME DENSITY AND I'M JUST TRYING TO BE A LITTLE CONSISTENT WITH MY APPROACH TO THAT. BUT I, I GUESS I WOULD ASK, IS THERE ANY WAY TO GET SOME OF THAT DENSITY REDUCED? UM, IF YOU'RE ASKING IF WE CAN GO TO AN MF 18 THAT'S, THAT'S TOO LOW, WE CAN'T DO THAT. UM, THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO POTENTIALLY DECREASE DENSITY. UM, BUT AGAIN, NOT SOMETHING FOR DISCUSSION IN FRONT OF THE ZONING COMMISSION AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. . OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I, I JUST, UM, I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY WAY TO, TO KNOCK THAT DOWN SOME, BUT I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UH, THERE IS FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER WHEAT WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS. TO MY LEFT COMMISSIONER. TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS FOR DENIAL. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? UH, NO. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? NO. COMMISSIONER BARROS? NO. COMMISSIONER WHITE? NO. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YEP. SORRY. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS LEFT. COMMISSIONER SIPES. NO. CHAIR DIANTE AYE. MOTION FAILS. SO ONCE AGAIN, THE MOTION FOR DENIAL HAS FAILED. UM, A PART, A PERSON, NOT A PARTY. A PERSON WHO HAS VOTED AGAINST THE PREVIOUS MOTION CAN NOW MOVE TO RECONSIDER THE FLOOR IS OPEN. OR IS THIS, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME WE'VE HEARD THIS CASE FIRST. OKAY. VERY GOOD. OH, BECAUSE OF THE PROBLEM. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. SO IF THERE IS NO MOTION IT COMES BACK FOR ANOTHER MEETING. I'M SORRY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. ALRIGHT. MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION. RECONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. AND I'LL TAKE THAT MOTION. ALRIGHT. SO THERE IS A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS. UH, WE'RE GONNA DO A ROLL CALL VOTE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. COMMISSIONER BARTOS? YES. YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON. NO. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER? WE? NO. COMMISSIONER WHITE. YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? NO. COMMISSIONER SIPES. YES. CHAIR BUSMAN. AYE. RECONSIDERATION PASSES. ALRIGHT, SO NOW THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A NEW MOTION. SIX. SIX TO SIX TO THREE. UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION MR. CHAIR TO APPROVE ITEM, IS IT 10? YES. YES. YES. MOTION TO APPROVE. ITEM 10. MOTION TO APPROVE. ITEM 10 BY COMMISSIONER WHITE. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND THAT, UH, WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER TO MY RIGHT. YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES. SO MY, MY CONCERN, UM, AND THE REASON I VOTED, UM, AGAINST THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS ABOUT, UH, IMPERVIOUS COVER VESTED RIGHTS. UM, AND I UNDERSTAND CURRENTLY IT'S C THREE AND THEN I LOOK RIGHT ABOVE IT AND THERE'S A HOME DEPOT AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE C THREE. AND THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO LANDSCAPING. AND IN MY OPINION, A UH, MULTIFAMILY USE WOULD PRESERVE MORE OF THE NATURAL FEATURES THAN A, UM, INTENSE C THREE USE. AND SO THAT IS THE, THAT WAS WHY I VOTED AGAINST THE MOTION, WHY I WOULD SUPPORT A MOTION FOR MULTIFAMILY. [02:55:01] ALRIGHT. UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UM, WELL I CAN UNDERSTAND, UM, MY COMMISSIONER'S, UH, I GUESS PERSPECTIVE OF THIS WITH REGARDS TO IMPERVIOUS COVER. IF YOU HAVE NEVER LIVED IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA WHERE THERE ARE APARTMENT COMPLEXES OF THIS SIZE, YOU PROBABLY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE COM, THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY. AND I JUST WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT. I DO HEAR THAT. AND THAT'S THE REASON FOR MY POSITION. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER WHITE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE? NO. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? NO. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. GOOD. THANK YOU ALL. WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE NEXT CASE AND THEN WE WILL TAKE A BRIEF RECESS 'CAUSE WE HAVE BEEN GOING FOR ABOUT TWO HOURS AT THIS POINT SINCE OUR LAST BREAK. TO BE CLEAR, WE'VE BEEN GOING FOR THREE. SO IF WE COULD GET ITEM NUMBER 11 PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. THE PETER ZAKO ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER 11 IS LOCATED 3 6 0 3 SOUTH FLORES GOING SOME TH FROM C THREE NA TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR METAL RECYCLING ENTITY WITHOUT OUTSIDE STORAGE AND OR PROCESSING. WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME. THERE WERE 24 NOTICES SENT OUT. ZERO IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED. LONE STAR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN OPPOSITION. THE EXISTING C C THREE NI GENERAL COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED C TWO CD WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR METAL RECYCLING ENTITY WITHOUT OUTSIDE STORAGE AND OR PROCESSING CONDITIONS DOWN TO AN INDUSTRIAL USE TO A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO AN ANSWER. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. UH, IF THE APPLICANT CAN COME FORWARD, MS. BANEZ AND MR. KO? MM-HMM. , PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. UH, GIVE YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US ABOUT YOUR REZONING REQUEST. UM, MY NAME IS ELIZABETH SANZ AND MY ADDRESS IS 1247 MCKINLEY AVENUE. AND, UH, THIS IS MY HUSBAND GIO CARRANO OF 12 47 7 MCKINLEY AVENUE. AS WELL, WE WANNA THANK THE ZONING COMMISSION FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN OUR POSITION FOR THIS BUSINESS VENTURE. UH, SO WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING FROM THE ZONING COMMISSION IS TO ALLOW A, UH, COM COM SEE TO WITH CONDITIONS, UH, WE ARE PLANNING TO, UH, OPEN A METAL RECYCLING ENTITY WITHOUT OUTSIDE STORAGE AND PROCESSING. THE RECYCLING BUSINESS WILL BE MANAGED ON A SMALL SCALE AND WILL BE OPERATED INDOORS. ACCORDING TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING REGULATIONS, UH, THE BUSINESS WILL NOT ALLOW LARGE VEHICLES, COMMERCIAL VEHICLES THAT WILL, UH, AND WILL NOT BE A THREAT TO THE COMMUNITY OR ITS ENVIRONMENT. UH, WHAT WE PLAN, UH, IS ON ABIDING BY THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S RULES AND CODE OF COMPLIANCE. THE PROPOSED VENTURE IS AN ESTABLISHMENT OF RECYCLABLES, METALS THAT WILL BE A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY BY CREATING JOBS, MINIMIZING POLLUTION, OFFERING PICKUP SERVICE TO SENIOR CITIZENS, DISABLED AND VETERANS. THE BUSINESS WILL ONLY OPERATE AS A GREEN BUSINESS, UH, WHERE THE ENERGY WILL BE SOLAR POWERED AND THE WATER WILL BE RECYCLABLE. THE BUSINESS WILL BE DIFFERENT FROM OTHER BUSINESSES THAT OPERATE IN A LARGE SCALE, WHICH CAN BE DISRUPTIVE TO LOCAL NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA. WE WILL MANAGE EVERYTHING INSIDE AND WE'LL TRANSPORT THE GOODS TO VENDORS OR BUSINESS PARTNERS ON A WEEKLY BASIS. WE ARE HUMBLY REQUESTING THE ZONING COMMISSION TO GRANT US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO OPERATE THIS BUSINESS AND MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY BY KEEPING THE ENVIRONMENT CLEAN AND GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. SANS. MR. COCO? YES SIR, PLEASE. MY NAME IS RAJU COCO, UH, LIVING IN, UH, 1247 MCKINLEY AVENUE. UH, WE TRY TO, UH, SORRY. MY ENGLISH NUMBER, I TRY TO DO THE BEST. IF YOU'D [03:00:01] LIKE THE INTERPRETER, WE CAN BRING HER UP, BUT, OR IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU MR. WE DON'T WANT TO BE A BURDEN FOR THE CITY SOLAR. AND WE HAVE A CONTRACT FOR SOLAR ENERGY SERVICES AND THE WATER, ANOTHER CONTRACT WITH THE PLUMBING COMPANY FOR THE RAIN AND ANOTHER CONTRACT FOR THE WATER AND, AND A PAYMENT. AND WE ARE, WE ALREADY DID A PAYMENT AND THE, WE DON'T HAVE BIG MACHINES INSIDE. JUST TWO SMALL MACHINES. ONE IS FOR A STRIP. THE COPPER IS A SMALL MACHINE AND OUTSIDE AND INSIDE THE OTHER MACHINE IS THE, IS A COMPRESSOR FOR THE CANS, THE ALUMINUM CANS. THAT'S IT. WE DON'T HAVE MUCH IN, WE PRETEND TO DO A SMALL RECYCLE BUSINESS. NOT BIG WITH A SCRAP METAL OUTSIDE. NO, WE DON'T BUY METAL. METAL. A SCRAP. WE BUY ONLY, UH, STAIN STEEL, ALUMINUM, COPPER, BRONZE BATTERIES. SMALL THINGS FOR THE PEOPLE. BRING YOUR SMALL THINGS. AND THEN THE POINT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE, OTHER THAN THE OTHER BIG RECYCLING IS WE WANNA DO A PICKUP DELIVERY. PICKUP DELIVERY FOR THE VETERANS AND THE SENIOR PEOPLE. BECAUSE I REMEMBER ONE DAY I CALLED THE RECYCLING AND I SAY, HEY, I HAVE A, I'M AN ELECTRICIAN AND I SAY, I HAVE A LOT OF COPPER HERE, BUT I DON'T HAVE MY TRUCK. I DON'T HAVE A TRUCK FOR GOOD OVER THERE. HE SAY, FIND SOMEBODY. SO I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE, SENIORS, VETERANS OR DISABILITY PEOPLE, THEY DON'T HAVE A CAR. IF THEY CALL ME AND THEY SAY, HEY SERGIO, WE HAVE SOMETHING HERE, I GO PICK IT UP. THAT'S, THAT'S THE DIFFERENT POINT. AND NO NOISE. AND WE DON'T WANNA HAVE NOTHING OUTSIDE. THAT'S OUR PLAN. AND WE DON'T HAVE NOTHING OUTSIDE. CAN I USE THIS ONE? OKAY. AND STAFF, IF YOU WOULD FOLLOW ALONG WITH THE CURSOR. SO COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL CAN SEE AS WELL. RIGHT HERE IS A STREET. THIS IS FLORES AND THIS IS TEO. OUR ENTRY, OUR ENTRY FOR THE PERSONAL WORK IS, THIS ONE IS OUR ENTRY. THIS IS OUR PARKING. THIS IS THE REST AREA. THIS IS THE GREEN AREA OUTSIDE OF MY JOB. AND THIS IS A STORAGE. THIS EXIT. I'M USED ONLY ME BECAUSE RIGHT HERE I PARK MY TRAILER, PUT THE MATERIALS IN THE TRAILER AND I GET OUT. THIS IS MORE PARKING RIGHT HERE. AND I HAVE MORE PARKING RIGHT HERE. THIS IS MY SMALL OFFICE, MY SMALL WAY FOR THE MATERIALS WORK TABLE AND RESTROOMS. ACTUALLY, THIS IS LIKE A SHOP. IT'S, IT IS NOT A BIG RECYCLING BUILDING, YOU KNOW, AND NO BIG TRUCKS CAN DRIVE HERE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A WAY, BIG WAY OUTSIDE LIKE OUR OTHER LIKE, UH, LIKE OUR OTHER, UH, RECYCLING CENTERS. AND I THINK IT ONE BLOCK DOWN ME IS A BIG BUILDING COMMERCIAL FEED THE STORE AND YOU CAN SEE TRAILERS DRIVING THERE AND NOBODY SAY NOTHING. SO THE, UH, THE PEOPLE CAME TO MY HOU TO MY BUSINESSES. JUST PERSONAL TRUCKS, NOT BIG TRUCKS, PERSONAL TRUCKS, YOU KNOW, ELECTRICIANS, PLUMBER BEERS, REGULAR PEAS. AND I THINK THIS BUSINESS IS GOOD BECAUSE AFTER THIS PANDEMIC WE NEED A LITTLE HELP. EVERYBODY NEED A LITTLE HELP. WHERE'S THE HELP? IT'S IN YOUR YARD. IT'S IN YOUR YARD. YOU CAN HAVE A $20 IN YOUR YARD. YOU THROW TO THE TRASH. NO TAKE TO THE RECYCLING. THAT'S ONE. THANK. THANK YOU SIR. YES SIR. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UM, THANK YOU. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO SIR. ALRIGHT. UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE, SO IT COMES BACK TO ME 'CAUSE TODAY IS MY DAY. UM, STAFF, THIS CASE, [03:05:01] UM, HAD BEEN POSTPONED. CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THIS CASE? UH, YES. ORIGINALLY, UH, WHAT WAS DESCRIBED, UH, IN THE APPLICATION AND WAS THOUGHT MORE TO BE OF A CONTRACTOR FACILITY, BUT IT TURNS OUT IT WAS NOT THAT IT, BECAUSE HE DOES STATE THAT HE HAS GREEN RECYCLING IN HIS APP APPLICATION. WE HAVE TO TREAT IT BY THE MOST INTENSE USE, WHICH IS THE METAL RECYCLING WITH THE OUTSIDE, UH, WITHOUT OUTSIDE STORAGE. AND SO AS A RESULT IT GOT REPUBLISHED RE NOTIFIED FOR THAT USE. OKAY. AND SO THE WITHOUT OUTSIDE STORAGE OR PROCESSING, UM, WHERE DOES THAT LIMITATION COME IN THROUGH THE CODE, IF YOU KNOW, LIKE IS THAT IT'S PART OF, IT'S PART OF THE USE. IT'S PART OF THE USE. YEAH. AND HE HAS, UH, CONFIRMED THAT ALL OF HIS ACTIVITIES WILL BE WITHIN THE BUILDING. OKAY. AND IF, IF SOMEHOW IN THE FUTURE THEY WERE NOT WITHIN THE BUILDING, HE WOULD BE CITED AND FIND IN SOME MANNER. CORRECT? CORRECT. AND ANOTHER USER COULDN'T COME IN AND DO OUTSIDE. THEY WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW THE SAME GUIDELINES OF THE, ALRIGHT, SO THIS WOULD MEAN NO OUTSIDE STORAGE? NO OUTSIDE PROCESSING. RUNNING WITH THE LAND. YES. ALRIGHT. UH, MR. MCO OR MS. BANEZ, UH, YOU, YOU AND I HAVE SEEN EACH OTHER BEFORE AT PLANNING. UH, YOU MIGHT BE HAPPIER WITH ME TODAY. WE'LL SEE. BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION. UM, RIGHT NOW THE PROPERTY IS NA NON-ALCOHOLIC, NO ALCOHOLIC SALES. UH, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO AMEND YOUR APPLICATION TO INCLUDE THAT? NO. ALCOHOLIC SALES? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, I WILL OPEN THIS UP TO QUESTIONS FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. YES. COMMISSIONER HUT. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. UH, WHAT ARE YOU GOING, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO PUT THE SCRAP FROM YOUR PROCESSING? YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU HAVE A PLASTIC, UH, WIRE COATING. OKAY. A LOT OF CONTAINERS, DIFFERENT CONTAINERS INSIDE SMALL CONTAINERS, MOVABLE. AND WE PUT EVERYTHING HERE, THE COPPER, BRONZE, STAINLESS STEEL AND, AND THE, THE TRASH. THE ONLY TRASH THAT WE CAN TAKE IS THE PLASTIC. IS THE PLASTIC. I KNOW YOUR, YOUR, YOUR QUESTION. THE PLASTIC. SO WE KEEP THE PLASTIC HERE AND WE HAVE TO, THAT ONE WE HAVE TO THROW, BUT IT'S JUST MINIMUM. IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE PLASTIC. WE DON'T HAVE A TRASH. SO YOU DON'T HAVE A DUMPSTER OUTSIDE? NO. NOTHING SIR. NO, IT'S A, THIS IS THE RAMP AND THIS IS ONE TRAILER. THIS IS ONE TRAILER BUT IS INSIDE THE BUILDING AND REST AREA FOR THE, FOR THE WORKERS. MY PARKING, PERSONAL PARKING GREEN AREA BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT MAYBE FOR MY DOG. RIGHT THERE. I LOVE DOGS. AND THIS IS A STORAGE BECAUSE WHEN MAYBE I HAVE A LITTLE, A LOT OF METAL HERE. I CAN KEEP IT RIGHT HERE AND THEN I GO TO SETTLE IT. THANK YOU. YES. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE. UM, SO THIS CASE CAME BEFORE PLANNING. PREVIOUSLY, UH, PLANNING HAS RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT. UM, AT THAT TIME THE ZONING REQUEST, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME INTERPLAY BETWEEN THESE TWO ISSUES. UH, WAS FOR A CONTRACTOR SERVICES WHICH WOULD NOT HAVE THE LIMITATION ON OUTDOOR OR AT LEAST THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING, WOULD NOT HAVE THE LIMITATION ON OUTDOOR USES. UM, DISTRICT FIVE I THINK LIKE SOME OTHER DISTRICTS HAS MASSIVE PROBLEMS WITH EXISTING RECYCLING USES IN OUR DISTRICT. UM, I RESPECT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. UM, BUT IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE INDOORS BECAUSE THEY'LL BE LIMITED TO THIS SITE PLAN, UH, I AM GOING TO MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL AS AMENDED. I MOVE TO RECOMMEND FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED TO C TWO TWO N A C D WITH A CONDITIONAL USE AUTHOR, AUTHORIZATION FOR MEDICAL METAL RECYCLING ENTITY WITHOUT [03:10:01] OUTSIDE STORAGE AND OR PROCESSING. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALRIGHT. COMMISSIONER WATSON IS THE SECOND, UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED. UH, I'M NOT GONNA TRY TO READ THAT AGAIN 'CAUSE I'VE ALREADY BUTCHERED IT ONCE. UH, ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. CHAIR BUS. CHAIR. BUS. DIMONT AYE. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? NO. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED. CONGRATULATIONS. GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU EVERYBODY. YOUR TIME. TAKE CARE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I DO APOLOGIZE. I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE BEEN WAITING A WHILE, UM, BUT WE HAVE BEEN GOING SLIGHTLY OVER TWO HOURS UP HERE ON THE DAIS AND WE ARE GOING TO STAND IN RECESS. THE TIME IS 4 22. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. WE WILL RETURN IN APPROXIMATELY FIVE MINUTES. ALRIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN AND COMMISSIONERS, UH, THE TIME IS 4 29 AND OUR RECESS IS OVER. WE HAVE A QUORUM STAFF, IF WE COULD CONTINUE ON WITH CASE NUMBER 12. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS SUMMER MCCANN ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER 12 IS LOCATED AT 69 60 PEMBROKE. GOING FROM RE RESIDENTIAL ESTATE DISTRICT TO R E C D RESIDENTIAL ESTATE DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY FOR NO MORE THAN 10 RESIDENTS. THERE WERE 14 NOTICES MAILED THREE IN FAVOR, EIGHT IN OPPOSITION, ALAMO FARMSTEAD, BABCOCK ROAD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AS OPPOSED 73 NOTICES WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET. 108 NOTICES WERE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET. HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET AND OAKLAND ESTATE'S NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET. THE EXISTING RE RESIDENTIAL ESTATE DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED R E C D RESIDENTIAL ESTATE DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR ASSISTED LIVING FOR NO MORE THAN 10 RESIDENTS IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY. GENERALLY, ASSISTED LIVING FOR MORE THAN SIX RESIDENTS IS PERMITTED IN AREAS WITH COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY ZONING, DESERT MULTIFAMILY ZONING DESIGNATIONS AND THE PROPOSED USE AT THAT DENSITY WOULD NOT BE INAPPROPRIATE, WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE WITHIN THE AREA. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS AN INTERIOR LOT WITHIN A LARGE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, THUS THE ALLOWANCE OF ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY FOR UP TO 10 RESIDENTS WOULD BE A DENSE USE. ADDITIONALLY, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY PERMITTED TO HAVE AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY FOR UP TO SIX RESIDENTS. AS PRESENTLY ZONED STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. IS THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PRESENT? PLEASE COME FORWARD. INTRODUCE YOURSELVES, GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US ABOUT YOUR REZONING REQUEST. SURE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS DANIEL EU. THIS IS MY WIFE ALEXANDRA EU. WE, UH, LIVE AT THE PROPERTY AT 6 9 6 0 PEMBROKE ROAD. WE, UH, CURRENTLY OPERATE AS A SIX BED ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY. WE'RE LICENSED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS. WE PICKED UP THE PROPERTY IN 2018, UH, AND IT WAS A FAIRLY HIGHLY DISTRESSED PROPERTY. WE'VE REHABBED IT. UM, EVERYTHING'S BEEN THROUGH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. IT'S BEEN INSPECTED, APPROVED. UH, AFTER THAT WE APPLIED FOR OUR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WITH THE STATE OF SAN ANTONIO. THAT'S BEEN GRANTED. AND THEN WE HAVE A, UH, LICENSE FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS TO OPERATE AS AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY. THOSE ARE ALL IN GOOD STANDING. WE'VE NEVER RECEIVED ANY VIOLATIONS ON THE PROPERTY. UM, I'D LIKE TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO, UH, THE NEXT POINT HERE. IT'S GONNA BE SECTION 35 3 76. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THAT. BRING IT UP FOR ME. THERE WE GO. SO, UH, SUBSECTION A IS PERMITTED USE, ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES, BOARDING HOMES, COMMUNITY HOMES SHALL BE A PERMITTED USE PURSUANT SECTIONS 35 3 11 AND 35 3 58. IN SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS, THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF RESIDENTS BY RIGHT SHALL BE SIX. AND THIS IS WHERE I'D LIKE TO, TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION. A REQUEST FOR REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE FAIR HOUSING ACT. 42 U SS C 36 0 1 MAY BE AUTHORIZED AS A CONDITIONAL USE CD PURSUANT TO SECTION 35 4 22 TO ALLOW FROM SEVEN TO NO MORE THAN 16 RESIDENTS. REASONABLE [03:15:01] ACCOMMODATION IS ENCOURAGED OR SUCH ACCOMMODATION MAY BE NECESSARY TO AFFORD PERSONS OR GROUPS OF PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES. AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO USE AND ENJOY HOUSING. UH, I JUST HAVE A LITTLE, UH, EXCERPT HERE OF 35,422. I KNOW THERE'S A SECTION ABOVE THIS THAT, UM, WITH REGARDS TO GENERAL CONDITIONAL USE, UH, RESTRAINTS WITH ONE PERTAINS TO RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. UM, POINT A THERE IS FOR NO SIGNS. WE DON'T HAVE A SIGN. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A VARIANCE TO ALLOW A SIGN AT THIS POINT. IT'S KIND OF A WORD OF MOUTH BUSINESS AND WE HAVE AN ONLINE PRESENCE AS WELL. UM, POINT B HERE, NO CONSTRUCTION FEATURE SHALL WE PERMITTED, WHICH WOULD PLACE THE STRUCTURE OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE CURRENTLY OPERATING AS A SIX BED FACILITY. I DO HAVE A, A SITE PLAN IF YOU HAVE THAT AVAILABLE, WHICH SHOWS THAT, UM, SHOULD WE BE GRANTED ANY FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY. WE'RE, UH, WE'RE WELL WITHIN THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE COVERS, WE'RE WITHIN OUR SETBACK LIMITATIONS. UM, SO WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY VARIANCES THERE. AND THIS WOULD BE KIND OF A WORST CASE SCENARIO. IF YOU SEE THERE, THE, THE PART THAT IS PARALLEL WITH THE MAIN STREET IS THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. AND THEN THAT THE, THE LONGER SECTION THERE WAS NEW CONSTRUCTION. UH, WE, WE ADDED THAT AROUND 2018 OR 19. SO THAT ACTUALLY HAS FOUR BEDROOMS. THEY'RE ALL SIZED FROM A STATE STANDPOINT TO HOUSE, UM, DOUBLE OCCUPANCY. SO THAT WOULD, WE DID THAT IN CASE LIKE MAYBE A MARRIED COUPLE WANTED TO SHARE A ROOM. SO TECHNICALLY COULD WE HOUSE 10 IN ITS CURRENT STATE? YES. WHAT WE ARE FINDING IS THAT MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, COUPLES WANT THEIR OWN ROOMS AT THAT STAGE IN LIFE. UM, BUT IT'S ALSO, IT MAKES, IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR THE STAFF AND US TO WORK WITH THEM. I MEAN, A TYPICAL A D A ROOM, YOU'RE GONNA NEED ROOM FOR WHEELCHAIRS RIGHT. STAFF TO GET IN THERE, WORK WITH THEM AND, AND CARE FOR THEM. UM, SO LIKE I SAID, THE, THE SITE PLAN WOULD BE LIKE A WORST CASE TO ADD FOUR ADDITIONAL ROOMS, PRIVATE BATHROOMS, AND THEN MAYBE LIKE A LIVING ROOM OR A LIBRARY AREA WHERE THEY COULD VISIT WITH THEIR FAMILIES. UM, WE'VE BEEN OUT, WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS. UM, THIS HAS BEEN AN EXPERIENCE TO SAY THE LEAST. WE HAVE FOUND, UH, QUITE A BIT OF SUPPORT ACTUALLY RIGHT THERE IN ALAMO. FARMSTEADS, OF COURSE, THERE'S OPPOSITION AS WELL. UM, SOME OF THE CONCERNS I HEARD WAS WITH REGARDS TO PARKING. THE PAD THERE IN THE FRONT, AND I THINK THERE WERE SOME PHOTOS, IS KIND OF THE EXISTING PARKING STRUCTURE. WE CURRENTLY HAVE SEVEN SPACES. IT'S SUFFICIENT TO, UH, ACCOMMODATE IF IT WAS, UH, APPROVED TO NO MORE THAN 10 RESIDENTS. THE, UH, TABLE THAT YOU HAD EARLIER SHOWS THAT THE REQUIREMENT IS 0.3 SPACES PER RESIDENT, PLUS ONE FOR EVERY STAFF MEMBER. SO IF WE WERE ALLOWED 10, THAT WOULD BE THREE SPACES PLUS, UH, TWO STAFF MEMBERS WOULD BE FIVE. AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE SEVEN SPACES. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A MAXIMUM LIMITATION TO, IF ANYONE'S CONCERNED ABOUT US JUST COVERING THE FRONT YARD WITH CONCRETE, LIKE THERE'S A MAX AS WELL. UM, ALONG WITH THE, WITH THE TRAFFIC CONCERN, WE WORKED WITH A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING FIRM HERE IN TOWN. UH, IT'S THIS ONE RIGHT HERE. IT'S THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AS YOU SEE THERE, KIND OF IN THE LOWER SECTION IN THE MIDDLE. OUR CURRENT LOAD AT PEAK USAGE IS TWO, UH, HOUR TRIPS. AND THEN IF WE WERE TO, UH, HAVE AN INCREASE BY FOUR BEDS TO 10, MAX WOULD BE THREE. SO WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE ADDING ONE CAR DURING, UH, PEAK USAGE HOURS. I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT FIVE LOTS AWAY FROM ME IS A DRIVING RANGE RIGHT THERE. UH, THE SEAT OF SAN ANTONIO PURCHASED, I BELIEVE IT WAS 95 ACRES, SO THAT THAT GENERATES QUITE A BIT OF TRAFFIC ALREADY. UM, I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT WHEN I, WHEN I KIND OF LOOKED INTO IT, THEY HAVE 30 BAYS THERE AND THEIR LOAD IS ONE POINT 25 CARS PER BAY AT PEAK USAGE HOURS. UH, AND THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL 65 ACRES THAT I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THE FUTURE USE IS FOR IT. UM, IT'S CURRENTLY JUST LAND, BUT I, I'VE HEARD PARK SATURDAY MARKET. I DON'T KNOW. WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE, SEE WHAT GOES IN OVER THERE. UM, I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT FROM UH, MY STANDPOINT. SORRY, I'M THE ENGINEER, THE NERD. THIS IS MY WIFE. SHE'S THE NURSE AND THE ADMINISTRATOR. SHE CAN TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DAY TO DAY. THANK YOU. I DO WANNA ADD, THERE'S MULTIPLE ENTRANCES INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO IT WOULDN'T BE A BOTTLENECK NECESSARILY JUST TO GET TO US. I'M SORRY. UM, SO IT'S TRUE WE HAVE, UH, A SIX BED THERE AND I KNOW WE ARE LEGALLY ALLOWED TO BE THERE AND HAVE SIX RESIDENTS ON SITE. UM, THE REASON WE'RE REQUESTING FOR ADDITIONAL IS BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE IT IS A REASONABLE REQUEST AND AN ADJACENT USE TO [03:20:01] THE EXISTING LAWS. UM, WE ARE AN ASSISTED LIVING AND I WANT TO CLARIFY KIND OF WHAT THAT IS. WE ARE LICENSED, UM, BY H H S C. UM, SO ASSISTED LIVING ARE RESIDENTS THAT CAN NO LONGER BE HOME, UM, THAT CAN NO LONGER CARE FOR THEMSELVES INDEPENDENTLY. SO MY AGE POPULATION IS EIGHTIES TO NINETIES. UM, ALL OF MY RESIDENTS NEED HELP IN SOME WAY OR ANOTHER, SO WE'RE THERE TO BATHE THEM, FEED THEM, UM, HELP THEM WITH LAUNDRY, UM, MOBILITY, ANY OF THOSE ISSUES. NONE OF THEM ARE DRIVING ANY LONGER. UM, THERE ARE NO LOUD NOISES GOING ON WITH OUR COMMUNITY AS IS. UM, WHEN WE WENT OUT AND SPOKE TO, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, A LOT OF THEM DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WE WERE THERE. UM, I'M ON GOOGLE, SO I WAS A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED. UM, BUT ANY, ANY CASE, UM, WE ARE QUIET. I HAVE BUSINESS HOURS, SO, UM, FROM EIGHT TO SIX IS KIND OF LIKE OUR VISITING HOURS. SO, UM, IN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AFTER 4:00 PM THERE'S LITERALLY NOBODY THAT REALLY COMES AND VISITS ANYMORE JUST 'CAUSE WE DO DINNER TIME. UM, AND THEN OUR RESIDENTS TEND TO GO TO BED EARLY AND WAKE EARLY. UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, JUST KIND OF LETTING YOU GUYS KNOW, UM, WHAT OUR, OUR STAFFING PATTERNS ARE RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE PERSON ON THE FLOOR. UM, I'M THERE AS WELL. IF WE WERE GRANTED THE FOUR ADDITIONAL, WE WOULD HAVE PROBABLY TWO FOR SURE, TWO STAFF ON THE FLOOR. 'CAUSE I LIKE TO MAINTAIN LOW STAFF, UM, OR I'M SORRY, HIGH STAFF, TWO RESIDENT RATIOS. UM, JUST BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT IS WHAT PROVIDES THE BEST CARE. I CAN'T TELL YOU GUYS HOW MANY PEOPLE WE'VE HAD, UM, COME AND SAY, OH MY GOD, I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU GUYS ARE HERE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS PERFECT FOR MOM, DAD. UM, IT'S QUIET, IT'S BEAUTIFUL. UM, THIS IS WHERE THEY DESERVE TO BE. SO TYPICALLY WE ARE FROM BEGINNING TO TO END. WE'RE NOT, UM, SKILLED NURSING. SO I CAN'T TAKE ANYBODY THAT HAS LIKE TRACHS, UM, FEEDING TUBES, THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, UNLESS THEY AGE IN PLACE BY THEIR RIGHT. AND I APPLY FOR A VARIANCE, WHICH NEEDS TO BE GRANTED BY STATE AND I DO HAVE TO SUBMIT CARE PLANS FOR THAT. UM, A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS HAVE EVEN COME FROM THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. UM, THEY'VE COME FROM ALAMO FARMSTEAD, THEY'VE COME FROM OAKLAND ESTATES. UM, SO THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALREADY AND THEY JUST CAN'T BE HOME ANYMORE. UM, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HERE FOR. AND THERE IS A NEED. UM, I CAN'T TELL HIM TELL YOU HOW MANY REFERRALS I'VE PASSED UP ON BECAUSE WE'RE FULL AND I'M CONSTANTLY FULL. UM, AND AS THE POPULATION GROWS AND AGES, THERE'S GONNA BE AN EVEN GREATER DEMAND FOR PLACES LIKE MINE, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE LIKE A HOME-LIKE SETTING. WE'RE NOT JUST, UM, SOME LARGE FACILITY OFF A MAIN ROAD. THESE SENIORS GET TO AGE IN WHAT THEY REMEMBER. SO A QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, THEY'RE NOT SCUTTLED NEXT TO A HOSPITAL. THEY GET TO BE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT'S KIND OF OUR ENTIRE GOAL IN DOING THIS. UM, SO I I I UNDERSTAND, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CONCERNS, BUT JUST IN EXPERIENCE, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY NOT ALLOWED IN FUSSY BUSINESS. UM, SOMETIMES WE'LL TAKE OUR ELDERLY OUTSIDE AND THEY'LL JUST LIKE TO WATCH THE DEER. UM, THEY LOVE IT. , WE PUT BIRD FEEDERS OUTSIDE. THEY LIKE TO WATCH THE BIRDS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES SIR, QUITE A BIT. IT WAS RHETORICAL PHILLIP MANNA, FOLLOWED BY MICHELLE NOBLE. I'VE GIVEN MY TIME TO . OKAY, ALMA, WOULD YOU TELL US YOUR LAST NAME? ALMA BELLFIELD. I'M GIVING HER MY TITLE IF YOU WANT. WOULD YOU SAY YOUR NAME SIR? MY NAME IS JOE MARTINEZ. ALRIGHT, SORRY, BEAR WITH US ALMA, IF YOU WOULD. JOE MARTINEZ. IS THERE A WAY TO 10 0 9 MINUTES. OKAY, NINE, NINE MINUTES IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. TELL US YOUR ADDRESS. DO YOU HAVE TO? OKAY. MY NAME IS ELMA BELLFIELD. I LIVE ON ROCHELLE ROAD 83 5 7 IN ALAMO FARMSTEADS. I'M REPRESENTING THE ALAMO FARMSTEADS BABCOCK ROAD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I SIT ON THE [03:25:01] BOARD AS VICE PRESIDENT AND I CHAIR OUR BOARD ZONING SUBCOMMITTEE BY UNANIMOUS BOARD DECISION. THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN OPPOSITION TO THIS CASE. FOR THESE REASONS. THE REQUESTED USE CONFLICTS WITH THE GOALS OF THE HINA LEON CREEK COMMUNITY PLAN WITH RESPECT TO PRESERVING THE CHARACTER AND QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE COMMUNITY. IT DOES NOT QUALIFY FOR THE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION RELIEF UNDER SECTION 35 DASH 3 76 BECAUSE THERE ALREADY IS AVAILABLE SUITABLE HOUSING IN THIS GEOGRAPHIC AREA. IT WOULD ADVERSELY IMPACT THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS INTERFERING WITH THEIR USE AND ENJOYMENT OF THEIR PROPERTIES. COMMUNITY FEEDBACK WAS IN OPPOSITION EVEN AS MANY EXPRESSED APPRECIATION OR EVEN ADMIRATION FOR THE SERVICES PROVIDED AT THIS FACILITY. THOSE SAME PEOPLE STILL OPPOSED ANY EXPANSION. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SLIDE, THAT IS THE MAP OF THE HI HU HINA LEON CREEK AREA. THE AREAS IN COLOR IS THE COMPLETE AREA, THE COMPLETE HINA LEON CREEK COMMUNITY PLAN. THIS IS WHERE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OF THE APPLICATION EXISTS. UH, YOU'LL NOTICE SCHNABEL PARK HERE, YOU'LL NOTICE VERDE HILLS IS OVER HERE. THIS LARGE SECTION HERE IS VERDE HILLS. OUR BOARD WOULD NOTE THAT THIS COMMISSION DENIED ZONING CASE Z DASH 2021 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 3 1 CD ON DECEMBER THE 21ST OF LAST YEAR. FOR SIMILAR REASONS, AS I CITED, THAT PROPERTY WAS IN VERDE HILLS, WHICH IS ALSO COVERED BY THE HIDON LEON CREEK COMMUNITY PLAN. AND THAT CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST WAS FOR A 16 BED ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY ON A 1.97 ACRE SITE. CURRENTLY ZONE AS R SIX, BUT VERDE HILLS ACTUALLY OPERATES IF THEY WERE, UH, RE RESIDENTIAL ESTATE. ALL THOSE LOTS ARE TWO ACRES MORE. THE PROPERTY UNDER CONSIDERATION TODAY IS A 1.1 ACRE SITE, CURRENTLY ZONED AS RE RESIDENTIAL ESTATE. THERE IS AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY AT 69 60 PEMBRO. AS YOU HEARD FROM THE APPLICANTS, THE CURRENT CURRENT PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE APPLIED TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS UNDER THEIR CURRENT ZONING. THEY ARE LEGALLY LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF SIX RESIDENTS. THEY WANNA INCREASE THAT TO 10, SO HAVE APPLIED TO REZONE FROM RE RESIDENTIAL ESTATE TO AN R E C D CONDITIONAL USE ZONING. THIS MECHANISM ALLOWS THE PROPERTY TO OWNER TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS NOT PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN THEIR CURRENT ZONING. THAT CONDITIONAL USE ON THE PROPERTY ZONING STAYS WITH THE PROPERTY EVEN AFTER IT IS SOLD BY THE CURRENT OWNERS. SO THIS WOULD BE A FOREVER CHANGE TO THE PROPERTY AND ENTITLE ANY FUTURE OWNERS TO OPERATE A 10 RESIDENT ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY. THERE. IT SHOULD BE NOTED, THEIR ORIGINAL SUBMISSION TO THE CITY REQUESTED AN INCREASE TO 16 RESIDENTS, BUT THEY LATER AMENDED THAT TO 10. WE UPDATED OUR PUBLISHED MATERIAL TO 10 AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AFTER WE WERE NOTIFIED. ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES EXIST IN OUR SIM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ARE AS THEY'RE ALLOWED BY THE FEDERAL FAIR HOUSING ACT. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE ARE NO RESTRICTIONS AT TEXAS STATE LICENSE IS REQUIRED IF YOU WANT TO OPERATE WITH MORE THAN THREE RESIDENTS, BUT THAT TEXAS LICENSE BY ITSELF DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY ENTITLE YOU TO OPERATE WITH A MAXIMUM OF 16 RESIDENTS ON A RESIDENTIAL LOT. THE ACTUAL AUTOMATIC MAXIMUM FOR A SPECIFIC PROPERTY IS LIMITED BY THE ZONING ON THAT PROPERTY AS SPECIFIED BY TEXAS STATE LAW ON RESIDENTIAL LOTS FOR SINGLE FAMILIES OWNING THE MAXIMUM BY RIGHT IS SIX MULTI-FAMILY. THE MAXIMUM BY RIGHT IS 16 AND OBVIOUSLY ON COMMERCIAL LOTS THAT NUMBERS CAN BE MUCH HIGHER. TEXAS STATE LAW FOR COMMUNITY HOMES AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS ALSO SPECIFIES THAT THE EXTERIOR STRUCTURE OF THE BUILDING MUST RETAIN COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS. SUCH HOMES CANNOT HAVE MOTOR VEHICLES IN NUMBERS EXCEEDING THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS IN THE HOME, AND NO MORE THAN SIX PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES AND TWO SUPERVISORS MAY RESIDE IN THE COMMUNITY HOME AT THE SAME TIME. THE CONCLUSION LOOKING AT THESE LAWS WOULD BE THAT THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE UNDERSTOOD THE DETRIMENTAL CONSEQUENCES OF ALLOWING LARGER ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES IN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND TOOK STEPS TO LIMIT THE SIZE AND IMPACTS OF THOSE FACILITIES ON THE SURROUNDING HOMES AND NEIGHBORHOOD BY LIMITING THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS TO SIX, THE CURRENT ZONING ON THE PROPERTY IS RE RESIDENTIAL ESTATE. IT IS IN THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ESTATE AREA IN THE HEART OF ALAMO FARMSTEADS, WHICH IS DOCUMENTED IN THE LAND USE PLAN OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN. THAT PLAN HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 2003. THIS WHOLE AREA IS ZONED AS SINGLE FAMILY LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. THE NEARBY R 20 LOTS ARE ALL ABOUT 0.9 OF AN ACRE, AND ALL THE REST ARE RE LOTS GREATER THAN ONE ACRE. THAT SIDE OF PEMBROKE IS A LOCAL STREET, AND THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IS FIVE HOUSES AWAY FROM OISH ABEL PARK. THE APPLICANT'S PURCHASED THE PROPERTY BACK AROUND 2018, SO THE ZONING AND LAND USE HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR A LONG TIME BEFORE THEIR PURCHASE. THE ZONING AND THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOES NOT MATCH THE PROFILE OF PROPERTIES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED GREATER THAN SIX RESIDENTS. AN EXPANDED ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY WOULD NOT BLEND INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THE APPLICANTS DESCRIBED [03:30:01] THEMSELVES AS A FAMILY BUSINESS. WHEN DISCUSSING THIS REZONING APPLICATION AND THE TEXAS STATE LICENSING DOES IN FACT LIST THE OWNERS AS AN INCORPORATED COMPANY, WE WOULD EXPECT THAT THESE BUSINESS OWNERS SHOULD HAVE DONE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE BEFORE PURCHASING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ESTATE PROPERTY IN THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ESTATE LAND USE AREA AT THE HEART OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, ESPECIALLY IF THEIR BUSINESS MODEL RELIES ON EXPANDING BEYOND THE SIX RESIDENT LIMIT. THE APPLICANT MAY CLAIM THAT SECTION 35 DASH 37 6 SHOULD APPLY HERE TO JUSTIFY AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS AS A REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION TO AFFORD AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO USE AND ENJOY HOUSING. BUT THAT SECTION STATES THAT THE ACCOMMODATION IS TO BE GIVEN WHEN NECESSARY. SINCE THERE ARE ALREADY AND SEEMINGLY ALWAYS AVAILABLE ROOMS WITHIN THE THREE MILE RADIUS, IT ISN'T NECESSARY TO GIVE THIS ACCOMMODATION. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THERE IS ALSO A 16 BED ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY ON HOLLY HO THAT IS IN THE PROCESS OF OPENING. AND THOSE BEDS WILL BE ADDED TO THE LOCAL AVAILABILITY. SO OUR CONCLUSION, THE NEIGHBORHOOD OPPOSES THIS REZONING AND REQUESTS THAT THE ZONING COMMISSION DENY THIS APPLICATION. OUR BOARD'S ZONING SUBCOMMITTEE TRIAGES ZONING CASES TO GIVE AN INITIAL RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S LONGSTANDING PRIORITIES AND CONCERNS. THOSE CONCERNS INCLUDE LIGHT POLLUTION, NOISE POLLUTION, TRAFFIC DRAINAGE. WE WATER SAFETY GIVEN THE PREVALENCE OF NEARBY SEPTIC SYSTEMS. OUR HOMEOWNERS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT FALLING PROPERTY PRICES CAUSED BY UNDESIRABLE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY ZONING DEVELOPMENT OR USAGE, AND THE GRADUAL EROSION OF THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE AS COMMERCIALIZATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OVERTAKES RESIDENTIAL USES. OUR HOMEOWNERS HAVE OBSERVED THAT FUTURE REZONING APPLICANTS INSIST ON EQUIVALENT ZONING ACCOMMODATIONS WHEN THEY SEE OTHER AREA PROPERTIES HAVE THEIR DESIRED ZONING. THEY USE THAT AS A PRECEDENT. DEVELOPERS, COMMERCIAL AND ORGANIZATIONAL ENTITIES OUTBID NORMAL RESIDENTIAL BUYERS FOR RESIDENTIAL LOTS, BUT OUR HOMEOWNERS INSIST ON LOW DENSITY, STAYING LOW DENSITY ON SINGLE FAMILY, STAYING SINGLE FAMILY ON RESIDENTIAL, STAYING RESIDENTIAL ON MAINTAINING THE CURRENT LOW KEY, QUIET RURAL RESIDENTIAL FEEL OF THE AREA. AND ON UPHOLDING THE HU LEON CREEK COMMUNITY PLAN. AND ITS EMBEDDED LAND USE PLAN MOST SPECIFICALLY THAT LARGE LOTS REMAIN LARGE, LOTS AND COMMERCIAL LOTS BE POSITIONED ON OUTSIDE BORDERS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR MAJOR ROAD INTERSECTIONS. OUR HOMEOWNERS ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT AT THE TIME OF PURCHASE, NEW BUYERS EXPECT THE CURRENT ZONING OF SURROUNDING PROPERTIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO REMAIN UNCHANGED AND TO BE ENFORCED PROTECTING THEIR QUIET ENJOYMENT OF THEIR NEW HOME. THEY ALSO INSIST THAT NEW BUYERS COMMIT TO THE PROPERTY ZONING RESTRICTIONS AT THE TIME OF PURCHASE WITH NO ENTITLEMENT TO REZONING AFTER PURCHASE. I WOULD ASK THE COMMISSIONERS TO KEEP THESE CONCERNS AND PRIORITIES IN MIND WHEN CONSIDERING THE CASE TODAY. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU MS. BELLFIELD. NEXT, PAUL WEIR. MR. WEIR, UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK, SIR? NO, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOOD. DIDN'T, OH, SORRY. NO, APPARENTLY NOT. NOT THIS CASE. I'LL . UH, HE DIDN'T SAVE YOUR POWDER , HE DIDN'T PUT HIS NUMBER THERE, SO IT LOOKED LIKE IT BELONGED WITH THOSE, SO I'M SORRY. NO PROBLEM. JANET. TRACY, JEN HAD TO LEAVE. OKAY, THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, MARY ROGERS, MR. ROGERS, IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF, GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND YES, I'M MARY ROGERS 63 47 INE FOR 54 YEARS. NOW YOU'RE GONNA KNOW HOW OLD I AM. UH, I SERVED ON THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT FOR 14 YEARS AND THANK YOU ALL. I KNOW WHAT YOU DO HERE ON THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, WE HAD A NUMBER OF THESE CASES COME UP AND I LEARNED A FEW THINGS ABOUT THEM. MAINLY PARKING AND VEHICLES WAS, WAS A BIG PROBLEM. WHATEVER YOU HAVE HERE, YOU HAVE DOCTORS, NURSES, AMBULANCES COMING MAYBE IN THE NIGHT, SIRENS WAILING. YOU HAVE SUPPLIERS, EQUIPMENT, DRUGS, OFFICE SUPPLIES, EVERYTHING NEEDED FOR AN OFFICE. YOU HAVE FRIENDS AND RELATIVES VISITING. THERE IS A LOT OF TRAFFIC. THERE'S A NEED FOR A NUMBER, NOT JUST ONE PERSON. SHE WAS SAYING THAT YOU, THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE NOW DON'T HAVE CARS. WELL, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT ALL THOSE RESIDENTS WILL ALWAYS BE THERE AND THERE WILL BE OTHERS AND THEY WILL NEED CARS TOO, AS WELL AS THE EMPLOYEES. AND I THINK THERE IS, UH, A RULE OR REGULATION WHEN YOU RUN A BUSINESS THAT YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE A NUMBER OF PARKING PLACES FOR YOUR EMPLOYEES AND THOSE WHO WOULD BE VISITING YOUR FACILITY. [03:35:01] SO, UM, MY PRESENTATION'S GONNA BE KIND OF SHORT AND I WIND IT UP WITH YOUR HOME IS YOUR HAVEN. WHEN YOU FINISH THIS DAY AND YOU GO HOME, YOU WANT YOUR BEER, YOUR MARGARITA, KICK BACK, TURN ON THAT TV AND HAVE A QUIET, PEACEFUL EXISTENCE. AND IF YOU'VE GOT A BUSINESS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU WANNA KEEP IT SMALL. AND I PERSONALLY, AS I HEARD THOSE CASES ON THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, WONDERED HOW THAT EVER HAPPENED THAT YOU GOT THAT. I COULD SEE THE BEAUTY SHOPS, THEY WERE USUALLY TWO STATIONS AND QUIT AT FIVE O'CLOCK, BUT THIS IS KIND OF A BUSINESS AND I APPRECIATE WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND I, UH, SYMPATHIZE WITH THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE. AND I MAY NEED TO GO THERE TOO. I HOPE NOT TOO SOON, BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE Y'ALL TO CONSIDER THE THINGS I'VE SAID ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. ROGERS. AND AS WE APPROACH HOUR FOUR OF THIS MEETING, I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO A BEER AND MARGARITA, MYSELF, . UH, NEXT PLEASE. TERRY FELL HABER FOLLOWED BY THOMAS VAL HABER. NOW GIVE HER MIC. OKAY. HELLO, MY NAME IS TERRY FELL HABER, AND I'M AT 69 15 PEMBROKE ROAD. UM, MY HUSBAND THOMAS AND I LIVE AT 69 15 PEMBROKE ROAD, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE THE IMPACT IN OUR RESIDENCE. WELL, WE LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY THAT IS TRYING TO EXPAND ITS FOOTPRINT, EXPLAIN AWAY THE CARS, THE TRAFFIC, THE E M S VEHICLES AND THE CEMENT AS BEST AS YOU CAN. BUT AS HARD AS THEY HAVE TRIED TO BLEND INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY HAVE TRIED, IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THERE IS A BUSINESS RUNNING OUT OF THIS LOCATION. A BUSINESS IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR HOUSE. WE ARE ONE OF THE MOST IMPACTED RESIDENCES IF THE ZONING CHANGE GOES THROUGH. THIS IS NOT AN ARGUMENT OF NOT UNDERSTANDING THE CHALLENGES OF PROVIDING FOR THE ELDERLY WITH CARE. I TOO HAVE A 93 YEAR OLD MOTHER IN A NURSING HOME AND ANOTHER STATE. THE PETITIONERS PROVIDE A SERVICE THAT THEY'RE PAID FOR. THE SERVICE THEY PROVIDE IS PART OF THEIR BUSINESS MODEL. IT'S WHAT THEY'RE SELLING, IT'S WHAT THEY BUILD THEIR BUSINESS WITH. REGARDLESS OF THE TYPE OF BUSINESS AND THE NEED IT FULFILLS, IT DOES NOT BELONG IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. IN OUR OPINION, THERE'S NO ADVANTAGE TO HAVING AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD EXCEPT FOR THE FEW PEOPLE WHO USE THESE SERVICES. AND OF COURSE, THE PETITIONERS. WHILE PROPERTY VALUES ARE ALWAYS A CONCERN FOR HOMEOWNERS, WE ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT PRESERVING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. OUR GREATER OUR CONCERN IS GREATER THAN OUR OWN PROPERTY INTERESTS. AFTER MOVING TO SAN ANTONIO, WE SPENT MORE THAN A YEAR LOOKING FOR THE PERFECT NEIGHBORHOOD. IN ADDITION TO WANTING EXCELLENT SCHOOLS FOR OUR THREE CHILDREN, WE FOUND A BEAUTIFUL FAMILY-ORIENTED NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A COUNTRY FEEL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY. WE HAVE LIVED HERE FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS. IT IS A SPECIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, A RESIDENTIAL AREA WITH GREAT CHARACTER AND QUALITY OF LIFE. HOWEVER, THIS SPECIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ITS GREAT CHARACTER AND QUALITY OF LIFE IS SLOWLY SLIPPING AWAY ONE PROPERTY AT A TIME. WE NOW HAVE TWO ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES ON PEMBROKE ROAD. WE ARE CONCERNED THAT IT WILL CONTINUE TO SLIP AWAY IF A CHANGE IN ZONING IS ALLOWED. SIX BEDS. 10 BEDS, THEN 16, ONE WAIVER, ONE EXCEPTION, ONE REZONING MODIFICATION AT A TIME. THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS RIPE FOR THESE TYPES OF BUSINESSES. THE LARGE LOTS ATTRACT THE, THIS TYPE OF BUYER. THE CURRENT ZONING ALLOWS THE BEGINNING OF SIMILAR BUSINESSES. THE PETITIONERS WILL ARGUE THAT THIS CHANGE DOES NOT SET A PRECEDENT. HOWEVER, IT WOULD CONVEY TO OTHER WOULD-BE INVESTORS THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS AN EASY MARK AND THAT ITS RESIDENTS AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION LACK THE SUPPORT OF GOVERNING AGENCIES TO ENFORCE THE EBNER AND LEON CREEK'S COMMUNITY PLAN. IF THEY APPROVED A ZONING CHANGE FOR ONE, WHY NOT ANOTHER ADD ANOTHER ADD ANOTHER, AGAIN, ONE WAIVER, ONE EXCEPTION, ONE REZONING MODIFICATION AT A TIME. PLEASE HELP US SEND A MESSAGE THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND ITS RESIDENTS WILL NOT ALLOW THIS EROSION WITHOUT A FIGHT. AND THAT HISTORICALLY WE'VE HAD THE SUPPORT OF OUR ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL. WE DO NOT WELCOME FURTHER DEVELOPMENT AND EXPANSION OF BUSINESS INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. PLEASE DO NOT LET THOSE WHOSE INTERESTS ARE FINANCIALLY MOTIVATED IMPACT THOSE OF US WHO WISH TO PRESERVE ALAMO FARMS. AS, AS IT IS TODAY, WE ASK FOR YOUR NO VOTE FOR THE REZONING OF 69 60 PEMBROKE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. STEVEN CUSHMAN, FOLLOWED BY CONSUELO HILTON. [03:40:01] AND WHILE YOU'RE WALKING UP SIR, IF YOU GIMME ONE SECOND. UH, THE TIME IS 4 57 AND COMMISSIONER WHITE IS LEAVING THE MEETING. THANK YOU, SIR. MY NAME IS STEVEN CUSHMAN. I LIVE AT 6 6 8 2 PEMBROKE ROAD. I'M FIVE OR SIX HOUSES AWAY FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND I AM OPPOSED TO THIS ZONING CHANGE. THIS AREA IS CURRENTLY A VERY QUIET RESIDENTIAL AREA. MANY OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE LIVED HERE FOR 20 OR MORE YEARS AND WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT A QUIET RESIDENTIAL AREA. THE OWNERS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY BOUGHT IT WITH THE INTENTION OF BUILDING A BUSINESS THERE. NOW THEY WANT TO EXPAND, EXPAND THAT BUSINESS. THE RESIDENTS COULD NOT STOP THEM FROM ESTABLISHING THE ACCOUNT BUS, THE THE CURRENT BUSINESS, BUT WE DO HAVE A SAY IN ALLOWING IT TO GROW. IN MY OPINION, IF THE OWNERS WANT TO EXPAND, LET THEM BUY IN A MORE COMMERCIAL AREA, NOT IN OUR QUIET RESIDENTIAL AREA. LET'S NOT FORGET, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING A BUSINESS. ANOTHER REASON FOR NOT ALLOWING THIS CHANGE IS THE FACT THAT THERE IS ALREADY ANOTHER ASSISTED LIVING CENTER ON THE STREET DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM MY HOUSE. THAT BUSINESS IS AT 66 55 PEMBROKE ROAD. ONCE AGAIN, MY NAME IS STEVEN CUSHMAN AND I OPPOSE THIS PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. CONSUELO HILTON, FOLLOWED BY DAVID HILTON. MS. HILTON. HI, MY NAME IS CONSUELO HILTON AND I LIVE ON 69 10 PEMBROKE ROAD. I AM, UM, MY PROPERTY ABOUT THE PROPERTY OF THE PETITIONERS TO THE EAST AND I AM DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THEIR BUSINESS MODEL. OKAY, I HAVE BEEN, LET'S SEE, DID I GIVE MY NAME? YES, . UM, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT I LIKE TO SAY. I DON'T HAVE PREPARED NOTES. THIS IS FROM THE HEART. THIS IS FROM TALKING TO MY NEIGHBORS. I REALIZE IN TALKING TO THEM THAT FOR US, THE PLACE IN WHICH WE DWELL IS JUST THAT THIS IS WHERE OUR HEART IS. THIS IS WHERE OUR CHILDREN GO TO SCHOOL. IT'S NOT A BUSINESS. IT IS THE PLACE WE LOVE. WE LIKE TO PRESERVE THE CHARACTER OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE WE LIKE IT THAT WAY. NOW OBVIOUSLY I OPPOSE THIS MOVE. I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THE YOUNG COUPLE HERE. THEY'RE WONDERFUL PEOPLE. AS AM I . THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR CHARACTER, BUT IT IS A BUSINESS FOR THEM. THAT IS ALL. IT IS A BUSINESS FOR US. IT IS NOT. NOW, IF THEY WANT, IF THEY HAVE AMBITIONS TO EXPAND, WONDERFUL. DO IT. SO IN AN AREA THAT HAS BEEN ZONED FOR SUCH BUSINESSES. SO I'M ASKING THE COMMISSION TO PLEASE VOTE NO ON THIS. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE TO SAY BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID I COULD REPEAT THE REST OF IT, BUT IT'S UNNECESSARY. AND, UM, LISTEN TO US PLEASE. WE'RE LOSING OUR CHARACTER VERY SLOWLY BUT SURELY. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. MS. HILTON. DAVID HILTON, FOLLOWED BY CHERYL. LORI, HE HAS A BUNCH OF TESTING. TAKE YOUR TIME. DID YOU GET EVERYTHING? DID YOU GET, NEED THE CLARIFICATION THERE? UH, THERE YOU ARE ON THE LIST, BUT CHERYL IS GIVING HER TIME TO WHO? CHERYL, YOU'RE GIVING YOUR TIME TO MR. HILTON. OKAY. NO, CHERYL WAS TALKING CALLING GLICKMAN GLICKMAN. OH, COLLEEN GLICKMAN IS GIVING HER TIME TO MR. HILTON. IS ANYONE ELSE? ARE BOTH GLICKMAN GIVING THEIR TIME TO MR. HILTON? ONLY ONE GLICKMAN IS WHO ELSE IS GIVING THEIR TIME TO MR. HILTON? IF ANYONE? NO ONE. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE THAT MS. FLORES, DO YOU HAVE THE GLICKMAN? SO ONE GLICKMAN GLICKMAN IS GIVING HER TIME TO MR. HILTON. MR. HILTON. GOT IT. MR. HILTON, WE'LL HAVE SIX MINUTES. MR. HILTON NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN AND THE COMMISSION, ZONING COMMISSION. MY NAME IS DAVID HILTON AND I LIVE, WELL, I USED TO LIVE AT, UH, 69 10 PEMBROKE. UM, I'VE RECENTLY MOVED TO HOUSTON IN THE LAST EIGHT YEARS, BUT, UH, JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND. WE MOVED THERE IN 1989. UH, WENT TO SCHOOL IN [03:45:01] THE AREA. WENT TO THORNTON RUDDER MARSHALL. AND UH, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY BACKGROUND IN THE AREA. UM, BEING FROM HOUSTON NOW, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE, UH, AN OUTSIDE PERSPECTIVE NOW. UH, FORMER SAN ANTONIO, UH, HEART'S ALWAYS HERE, I GUESS. BUT, UH, UM, COME HERE TO, UH, FROM HOUSTON, NOT ONLY TO SUPPORT MY MOM, BUT ALSO BRING WITNESS TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND ALAMO HOMESTEADS, WHAT A MUNICIPALITY WITH A LACK OF ZONING REGULATION LOOKS LIKE. UH, HOUSTON IS FAMOUSLY KNOWN FOR ITS ABSENCE OF A CODIFIED BODY OF FORMAL ZONING LAWS. AS SUCH, MANY OF THE CITY'S NEIGHBORHOODS ARE A PATCHWORK OF MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. AS AN EXAMPLE, INSIDE OF WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A LEAFY NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU'LL FIND A SCATTERING OF ALL MANNER OF DEVELOPMENT, RAIL YARDS, FUEL DEPOTS, OIL AND GAS CONTRACTORS, INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURERS, AND, UH, TRUCKING WAREHOUSES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, MY IN MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THERE IS A FURNITURE MANUFACTURER ONLY JUST A STONE TOSS AWAY FROM MY BACK PATIO. UH, THE NEIGHBOR, UH, ONE HOUSE DOWN FROM ME IS ADJACENT TO A MARBLE AND GRANITE CONTRACTOR WHO'S GRINDING EXHAUST SPEWS DIRECTLY INTO THEIR BACKYARD, MAKE IT AN MAKING IT UNUSABLE. AND JUST DOWN THE STREET ON THE CORNER LOT, A CONVERTED HOME, WHICH NOW SERVES AS OUR VERY OWN GLARING AND RAUCOUS NEIGHBORHOOD BAR. I KNOW THESE ARE EXTREME EXAMPLES, IT DOESN'T COMPARE TO, UH, THE ISSUE TODAY. BUT, UH, REGARDLESS, UH, THIS IS A, AN OBVIOUS BUSINESS OPERATING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND AS SUCH, THERE IS THE TRAFFIC AND THE PARKING AND THE FLOODLIGHTS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT. I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST FROM ANY OF THOSE IN FAVOR OF THIS ZONING EX EXCEPTION, TO PLEASE ALSO CONSIDER RETAINING THE TRANQUILITY AFFORDED BY THE REGULATION AS IT STANDS TODAY. I WOULD OPPOSE THIS AND I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THE COMMISSION ALSO TO VOTE AGAINST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. HILTON. CHERYL LAURIE, FOLLOWED BY TODD LAURIE. UH, MS. LAURIE. HI, MY NAME IS CHERYL LORI. UM, I LIVE ON PEMBROKE ROAD, UH, SIX TO 800 PEMBROKE ROAD IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE APPLICANTS WHO ALSO LIVE ON PEMBROKE ROAD. UM, I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION TO THE REQUESTED REZONING. I'M ALSO SERVE AS A SECRETARY OF THE ALAMO FARMSTEAD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND I'VE LIVED IN MY HOME FOR 17 YEARS. THE HOME THAT WE LIVE IN, UM, BELONGED TO MY HUSBAND'S GRANDMOTHER WHO BUILT THE HOME IN 1961. SO IT'S BEEN IN THE FAMILY FOR MANY YEARS. MY DAUGHTER AND HER FAMILY ALSO LIVE ON PEMBROKE AND IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE APPLICANTS WE CHOOSE TO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF A LARGE TRACKS COUNTRY FEEL AND OLDER CHARACTERS OF THE HOME. AT A RECENT NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, THE APPLICANT ACKNOWLEDGED AND CONFIRMED WHAT THEY DO IN THEIR HOME IS A BUSINESS, AN ASSISTED LIVING BUSINESS. I RECENTLY DID SOME RESEARCH IN JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT ASSISTED LIVING HOMES AND WHAT CAME UP IN ADDITION TO SOME EXPLANATIONS WAS, UM, THE FOLLOWING. IT SAID THAT THIS TYPE BUSINESS IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT. IT GENERATES INCOME FOR AND CAN GENERATE 36,000 GROSS MONTHLY INCOME WITH A NET OF 10,000 MONTHLY BY CONVERTING ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME INTO AN ASSISTED LIVING. SINGLE FAMILY HOMES FEEL MORE LIKE A HOME TO SENIORS THAN BIG BUILDINGS. REAL ESTATE IS EASILY PURCHASED BY INVESTORS AS OPPOSED TO REGULAR PERSONS WHO COME TO LIVE AND PURCHASE HOMES FOR THEIR PROPERTY. UM, THEY SAY TO CHOOSE UPPER INCOME FLATLAND RANCH HOMES THAT ARE CONVENIENT. LOCATION WHERE CLOSE TO THE MEDICAL CENTER. THIS DESCRIBES ALAMO FARMSTEADS TO A T AND FINANCING. [03:50:01] IT'S MUCH EASIER, UM, FOR THIS TYPE BUSINESS BECAUSE THEY JUST HAVE TO PUT 20% DOWN. S B N U SS D A PROGRAMS ARE AVAILABLE AND IMPROVEMENTS ARE FINANCEABLE. SO A NATIONAL AVERAGE PER RESIDENT, UM, IS CHARGED $3,600 PER MONTH. SO 10 RESIDENTS WOULD EQUAL 36,000 GROWTH WITH A 10,000, UH, NET. SO WHAT I FEEL JUST LIVING THERE IS THAT IT'LL INTERFERE WITH MY USE AND ENJOYMENT OF MY HOME. I HAVE A RIGHT TO ENJOY MY HOME WITHOUT DISTURBANCE AND HARM AND TO USE THE PROPERTY TO ENJOY IT, TO ENLARGE. THE CAPACITY OF THE APPLICANT'S BUSINESS WILL INCLUDE A COMMERCIAL CHARACTER TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IF THE APPLICANT'S BUSINESS IS ALLOWED TO GROW IN THE MIDDLE OF PEMBROKE WHERE WE LIVE, IT'LL INTERFERE WITH OUR USE AND ENJOYMENT OF OUR HOME. WITH ALL THE ADDED TRAFFIC, EMERGENCY, UH, VEHICLES, DELIVERY VEHICLES AND VISITORS TO THE RESIDENCE. I PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN APPROACHED BY THE APPLICANTS MS. LORI, THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. TODD LORI, FOLLOWED BY CLAY. STEVE CLAY, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. UH, MY NAME IS TODD LAURIE. I LIVE AT 6,800 PEMBROKE ROAD. UM, I'VE CONSIDERED THE FACTS RELATED TO THIS ISSUE AND HAVE ARRIVED AT THE FOLLOWING CONCLUSION. I OPPOSE THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION 69 60 PEMBROKE ROAD AND ASSISTED LIVING BUSINESS OPERATED IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE NAME PECAN VIEW SENIOR CARE TO BE REZONED TO R E C D FOR THE PURPOSES OF EXPANDING THE BUSINESS IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD FROM SIX BEDS CURRENTLY TO 10 BEDS IN THE FUTURE. FOLLOWING INCLUDES A LIST OF JUST A FEW OF THE REASONS WHY I OBJECT OPERATING BUSINESS IN THE HEART OF ALAMO. FARMSTEADS COMMUNITY DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE EBNER SLASH LEON CREEK COMMUNITY PLAN APPROVED BY THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IN 2003, OF WHICH ALAMO FARMSTEADS IS A PART. THE SPIRIT OF THIS COMMUNITY PLAN IS TO MAINTAIN LOW DENSITY, LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL HOUSING AND NOT BUSINESSES MORE SUITED FOR MAJOR THOROUGHFARES AND ARTERIAL ARTERIAL ROADS FOUND ON THE PERIMETER OF ALAMO FARMSTEADS. AN APPROVAL OF A ZONE CHANGE TO R E C D FOR ONE PROPERTY ON OUR STREET OPENS THE DOOR FOR OTHER PROPERTIES ON PEMBROKE, AND IN THE AREA OF RUNNING RESIDENTIAL ASSISTED LIVING BUSINESSES TO CREATE, TO REQUEST THE SAME ZONE CHANGE, ALONG WITH PROVIDING AN AVENUE FOR FUTURE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE SAME INDUSTRY TO FOLLOW SUIT. WHILE WE'LL STOP THAT NEGATIVE MOMENTUM SHOULD AN APPROVAL FOR THIS CASE TO R E C D BY COMPLETELY RESHAPING THE LOOK AND FEEL OF ARM ALAMO FARMSTEADS FROM LOW DENSITY LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES TO A BUSINESS PARK. A ZONE CHANGE TO R E C D WILL HAVE A NEGATIVE EFFECT ON OUR PROPERTY VALUES, WHILE ALSO RESULTING IN A FOREVER CHANGE TO THAT PROPERTY. WHEN IN IF THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNERS OF 69 60 PEMBROKE ROAD DECIDE TO SELL THIS PROPERTY, SHOULD A ZONE CHANGE TO R E C R E C D BE IN EFFECT AN ASSISTED LIVING BUSINESS AT THIS PROPERTY WILL REMAIN IN PERPETUITY. OTHER WOULD BE OPERATORS OF RESIDENTIAL ASSISTED LIVING BUSINESSES WILL SEIZE ON A POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY TO CAPITALIZE ON WHAT MAKES OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PROPERTIES HIGHLY DESIRABLE FOR PERSONAL FINANCIAL GAIN WITHIN THIS INDUSTRY. THESE BUSINESSES WILL HAVE A FINANCIAL ADVANTAGE BY OUTBIDDING, A SERIOUS HOMEOWNER WHO DESIRES TO BE IN THIS WONDERFUL LOCATION CONCERNING ANY FUTURE HOUSES IN ALAMO FARMSTEADS FOR SALE. IN CLOSING, WE HAVE BEEN HOMEOWNERS, MY WIFE AND I AT OUR PROPERTY ON PEMBROKE SINCE 2004. THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN IN MY FAMILY SINCE 1961. WE HAVE SEEN OUR CHILDREN GROW UP AND HAVE KIDS OF THEIR OWN WHILE LIVING AT ONE OF SAN ANTONIO'S BEST KEPT SECRETS. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO FOSTER MEMORIES AT OUR PROPERTY TO LAST MANY LIFETIMES. OUR STORY IS JUST ONE OF MANY. YOU'LL HEAR FROM OTHER HOMEOWNERS ON OUR STREET AND THE IN THE SURROUNDING AREA WHO ARE ALSO IN OPPOSITION. BUT EACH OF OUR STORIES WILL SHARE THE SAME IDEALS, WHICH IS STEMMING FROM OUR HEARTS, EMOTIONS AND EXPERIENCES, NOT FOR PERSONAL PROFITABLE GAIN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. LLOYD. STEVE CLAY, FOLLOWED BY DOUG STRINGER, CHAIRMAN BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS STEVE CLAY. I RESIDE AT 7 0 0 7 COUNTRY VIEW LANE. THIS MAY BE SOUNDING MORE LIKE AN A TESTAMENT, BUT MY WIFE AND I ARE OPPOSED TO THIS PROCESS. I'M A 60 YEAR RESIDENT OF ALAMO FARMSTEADS. HAVING GROWN UP ON PEMBROKE ROAD FROM THE AGE OF ONE AND LOVING THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO MUCH. I ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY BEHIND MY PARENTS AND BUILT MY HOME THERE IN 1992. I'VE WITNESSED THE AREA GROW FROM A COUNTRY, RURAL AREA WITH LAND [03:55:01] ALL AROUND US IN THE SIXTIES AND SEVENTIES WHERE HIS KIDS, OUR IMAGINATIONS, TOOK US FAR AND WIDE. WE RODE BIKES, RAISED ANIMALS FOR FOUR H AND RODE HORSES. AND WHEN OUR FATHER WHISTLED OR YELLED DINNER, WE KNEW IT WAS TIME TO GO HOME. I'VE SEEN THE CHANGES AS THE DEVELOPERS ENCROACHED IN OUR AREA. THE NEIGHBORHOOD DID THE BEST IT COULD TO REMAIN A COUNTRY RURAL FEEL. WE LOVE THIS AREA FOR ITS VIBE AND THE PEOPLE WHO RESIDE IN IT AND AN AREA WHERE PEOPLE CAN WALK, KIDS CAN RIDE BIKES, OTHERS CAN RIDE HORSES AND ALL FEEL SAFE NOW FOR THE MATTER AT HAND. WHILE I COMMEND THE COUPLE RUNNING THE SIX BED FACILITY, ASSISTING THOSE WHO RESIDE THERE, I CERTAINLY DO NOT WISH TO SEE A CHANGE FROM THE CURRENT HOME TO A MUCH LARGER DWELLING. ALLOWING THIS CHANGE TO R E C D ALLOWS THIS PROPERTY TO EXPAND ITS BUSINESS AND THUS WILL CHANGE THE DYNAMIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOREVER. SETTING A PRECEDENT FOR OTHERS TO FOLLOW. AS THERE ARE MORE OF THESE FACILITIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, OR SIMPLY QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD WILL NOW BE RATTLED WITH THE EXTRA NOISE FOR MORE DELIVERY TRUCKS, MORE VEHICLES COMING AND GOING, AND MOST LIKELY MORE AMBULANCES RUNNING TO THE LOCATION NIGHT AND DAY. ENDANGERING THOSE ON HORSEBACK, THOSE WALKING AND THE KIDS WHO RIDE BIKES IN THIS RURAL AREA AS WE HAVE NO SIDEWALKS, AS NO LONGER A SAFE PLACE IF ALLOWED, OTHERS WILL CERTAINLY FOLLOW KNOWING THEY CAN PURCHASE THESE LARGE LOT LOW DENSITY HOMES AND TURN THEM INTO ASSISTED LIVING PROPERTIES. PROPERTY VALUES INCREASE, TAXES WILL RISE AND THOSE FIXED INCOME AND RETIRED FAMILIES WILL NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO KEEP THEIR HOMES. THE VAST MAJORITY OF HOMEOWNERS IN THIS COMMUNITY DID NOT SIGN UP FOR THIS. IN ADDITION, THE WHOLE, IN ADDITION, THESE HOME BUSINESSES IF ALLOWED TO EXPAND BEYOND SIX BEDS, WITH THE POTENTIAL TO MAKE $3,000 PLUS PER BED, WILL CHANGE THE EBB AND FLOW OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD SUCH THAT NO ONE WILL DESIRE TO RAISE A FAMILY. HERE AGAIN, WE LOVE OUR QUIET COMMUNITY AND ONLY DESIRE TO KEEP IT QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT THE BUSINESS DISTRICT OF MONEY MAKING VENTURES. WHILE WE'VE BEEN FAIR TO THEM, WE SIMPLY ASK THIS COMMITTEE TO BE FAIR TO US. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. CLAY. DOUG STRINGER, CHAIRMAN BUSTAMANTE COMMISSIONERS. UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. UM, I AM DOUG STRINGER. I LIVE AT 88 23 LOST WOODS. SOMEHOW I GOT TO BE 62 YEARS OLD WITHOUT EVER ATTENDING A A ZONING COMMISSION MEETING AND I CERTAINLY REGRET IT. I HAD NO IDEA HOW COMPLICATED THE ISSUES DISCUSSED HERE ARE. UH, I THOUGHT IF YOU BOUGHT A PIECE OF PROPERTY, YOU OWNED A PIECE OF PROPERTY AND THAT WAS IT. BUT I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF MY FATHER WHO'S 90 YEARS OLD AND HE'S A RESIDENT AT PECAN VIEWS WHERE HE IS BEING TAKEN CARE OF QUITE WELL. I'M VERY THANKFUL TO KNOW ALEXANDRA AND DAVID. THEY'VE BEEN GREAT TO MY DAD. KNOWING THEM I'M IN FAVOR OF THEIR APPLICATION. I WOULD GUESS THAT THERE ARE MORE DEER LIVING ON PEMBROKE ROAD THAN THERE ARE PEOPLE. UH, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE, THE THINGS THAT ATTRACTS PEOPLE. I I'VE WALKED THAT STREET, UH, I OF COURSE I DRIVE THERE TO SEE MY DAD. I LIVE 1.4 MILES AWAY FROM, UH, PECAN VIEWS AND THERE ARE PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT COME IN AND, AND, UH, FEED THE DEER. UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM. SOMEHOW THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO SURVIVE THOUGH ALL THE AMAZON AND U P S TRUCKS THAT GO UP AND DOWN THE STREET. UH, 'CAUSE PEOPLE LIKE TO ORDER ONLINE NOW, UH, IN CREATING MORE TRAFFIC ON THEIR OWN STREET. UH, WELL SINCE THIS IS MY FIRST VISIT, UH, TO A ZONING, UH, COMMISSION MEETING, I WAS INTRIGUED BY, UH, ONE OF THE EARLIER ITEMS TODAY THAT WAS DISCUSSED. THE, UH, THE RESTAURANT BAR THAT MIGHT STAY OPEN UNTIL 2:00 AM UH, MEANWHILE BACK AT PECAN VIEWS, ALL THE SENIORS, EIGHT AT FOUR 30 AND THEY'RE IN BED BY SEVEN OR SO. UH, NEVER ANYBODY AWAKE WHEN I GO TO SEE MY DAD AFTER THAT TIME. UH, SO THEY'RE A QUIET LOT THERE AND, UM, I DON'T THINK ADDING A FEW MORE SENIORS IS, IS GONNA MAKE THINGS ANY, UM, ANY MORE HECTIC. UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SENIORS. UM, WELL ANYWAY, UH, TO CONCLUDE, DAVID AND ALEXANDRA HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB, UH, VERY SUCCESSFUL IN, IN, UM, IN HELPING PEOPLE THAT NEED THE MOST HELP. UM, I GUESS OTHER THAN THE TIME THAT THEY WERE INFANTS, I HAVE SEEN THE BENEFITS ENJOYED BY MY FATHER. AND SO MY PRAYER IS THAT THE COMMISSION WILL GIVE, UH, A FAVORABLE OUTLOOK ON, ON THEIR APPLICATION AND, UM, ASK THOSE THAT HAVE LIVED 40, 50, 60 YEARS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO THINK ABOUT THE TIME THAT THEY MIGHT NEED A FACILITY LIKE THAT. AND THEY DON'T WANT TO GO 47 MILES AWAY IN [04:00:01] A 200 BED FACILITY. THEY WANNA STAY THERE. SO THERE SHOULD BE MORE PLACES LIKE PECAN VIEWS, NOT LESS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. STRINGER. I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL WE HAVE IN THE ROOM, SIR, BUT WE HAVE, WE DO HAVE 10 SEPARATE VOICEMAILS. ALRIGHT. AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY OVERLAP. , DID YOU SEE THE HOPE IN MY EYES? ? UH, ALL RIGHT. LET'S BEGIN WITH THE VOICEMAILS. HELLO, I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 2 1 1 0 7 0 0 3 5 0 C D. MY NAME IS DENISE MCCAULEY. MY ADDRESS IS 3 6 3 PIKE ROAD IN SAN ANTONIO, SEVEN EIGHT TWO ZERO NINE. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 557-3579. AND UM, I WANTED TO JUST SAY THAT MY FATHER HAS BEEN A RESIDENT AT PECAN VIEW'S CARE HOME FOR THE LAST 18 MONTHS. AND I'M IN FAVOR OF THE ZONING CHANGE THERE BECAUSE IT WOULD BE GREATLY BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE ADDITIONAL ROOMS AVAILABLE FOR FUTURE RESIDENTS. DANIEL AND ALEXANDER ICK AND THE PEON VIEW STAFF HAVE VERY HIGH STANDARDS AND PROVIDE A CARING AND LOVING HOME FOR DAD AND THE OTHER RESIDENTS. THE PERSONAL CARE HOME SETTING AND PECAN VIEWS IN PARTICULAR ARE A GREAT BLESSING TO DAD AND OUR FAMILY. WE VISIT FREQUENTLY, AND I KNOW OF DANIEL AND ALEXANDRA TO BE RESPECTFUL AND THOUGHTFUL NEIGHBORS AS WELL. THEY MAINTAIN THEIR HOME AND SURROUNDINGS, SURROUNDINGS IN AN ATTRACTIVE SETTING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION. THIS IS JANINE WILLIAMS, 94 44 A BLINKEN, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO FOUR ZERO. PHONE (210) 913-8647. LAST THREE DIGITS OF THE CASE NUMBER 3 5 0. I AM FIRMLY IN FAVOR OF THE ZONING REQUEST CHANGE FOR 69 60 PEMBROKE TO REAL ESTATE CD. THE OWNERS TOOK A RUNDOWN PROPERTY AND CREATED AN AESTHETICALLY APPEALING PROPERTY, WHICH IS AN ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY. THE PURPOSE OF THE PROPERTY TO PROVIDE ASSISTED LIVING IN A HOMELIKE SETTING RATHER THAN A CLINICAL SETTING IS AN AMAZING OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE AGING MEMBERS OF OUR FAMILY. TO HAVE MY AGING PARENT IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD SO THAT I CAN VISIT DAILY IN A HOME WHERE SHE CAN RECEIVE THE CARE THAT I CANNOT ALWAYS PROVIDE WITH ONLY A FEW OTHER RESIDENTS IS AN ANSWER TO PRAYER. I KNOW THAT A HOMEOWNER IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS TELLING OTHERS THAT THIS HOME WILL AFFECT THE VALUE OF THEIR HOMES. I BELIEVE THIS IS MISLEADING AND THAT 69 60 PEMBROKE WOULD NEVER BE USED AS A COMP TO ASCERTAIN THE MARKET APPRAISED VALUE OF THEIR HOMES IN THE EVENT OF A SALE OR REFINANCE. IRONICALLY, THE PERSON DISPENSING THIS INFORMATION, SELF-ADMITTEDLY RENTS HER HOME OUT AS AN AIRBNB PROPERTY, WHICH ENSURES THAT TRANSIENT PEOPLE WILL BE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD REGULARLY. AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY IS NOT GOING TO ATTRACT THE TRANSIENT FACTOR. AND I SEE NO DETRIMENTAL FACTORS THAT THIS ZONING REQUEST APPROVAL WILL BRING TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS MY FERVENT HOPE THAT YOU APPROVE THE REQUEST. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. MY NAME IS JANET, ER TRACY. I LIVE AT 6 6 3 6 PEMBROKE ROAD. UM, AND I'M CALLING ABOUT THE ZONING CASE Z 2 0 2 1 7 0 9 0 0 3 5 0 CD. I AM IN OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY THAT IS ON PEMBROKE ROAD. UM, I LIVE UP THE STREET. UM, I HAVE LIVED IN MY HOME FOR SIX, SEVEN YEARS ALMOST. MY, I BOUGHT IT FROM MY PARENTS' ESTATE AND THEY LIVED HERE SINCE 1972. SO MY FAMILY, INCLUDING MYSELF, HAVE BEEN A PART OF THIS PROPERTY, UM, SINCE 1972. WHEN I PURCHASED THE HOUSE, WE DID SO WITH THE INTENTION OF MAINTAINING IT AS OUR PRIMARY RESIDENCE, BUT ALSO MAINTAINING THE LARGE TRACT OF LAND, THE BEAUTIFUL TREES THE COUNTRY FEEL THE QUIETNESS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. EVERY HOUSE ON THE STREET HAS THE SAME CHARACTER. IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR DECADES MY ENTIRE LIFE. YOU KNOW, HERE AT THE H O A MEETING, THE APPLICANT ACKNOWLEDGING A FRIEND THAT HE DOES BUSINESS IN HIS HOME AND HIS INTENTION IS TO GROW HIS [04:05:01] BUSINESS. UM, THAT WOULD GIVE, INTRODUCE A COMMERCIAL CHARACTER TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DID NOT PREVIOUSLY EXIST. I LIVE AT THE TOP OF THE STREET. I SEE THE TRUCKS GOING UP AND DOWN THE STREET, THE EQUIPMENT TRUCKS. UM, SO I KNOW THAT IT IS A BUSINESS AND IT'S ADDING A BUSINESS ELEMENT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, WHICH IS NOT WHAT THE PEOPLE WHO PURCHASED HOMES HERE TO LIVE IN WANT. UM, AND SO I SORT OF FEEL LIKE HIS GROWTH OF THAT BUSINESS WILL BE AT THE EXPENSE OF HIS NEIGHBORS. UM, I DON'T MIND HAVING A PERSONAL CARE HOME IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. IN FACT, THERE ARE TWO ON MY STREET. DO I WANT THEM TO GROW INTO SOMETHING MORE THAN JUST SMALL LITTLE PERSONAL CARE HOMES? NO, BECAUSE THAT WILL CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT WILL INCREASE THE TRAFFIC. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WALK UP AND DOWN MY STREET AND RIDE THEIR BIKES, KIDS THAT WALK LITTLE, UM, BABIES IN STROLLERS. UM, SO, UM, WE JUST WANNA MAINTAIN THE CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, WE DON'T WANT BUSINESSES THAT ARE GONNA GROW. WE WANT TO PROTECT THE QUIET COUNTRY FEEL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I'M IN OPPOSITION OF THIS, UH, REZONING OF THAT HOME. THANK YOU. BYE-BYE. HI, MY NAME'S JEREMIAH MACQUARIE. I RESIDE AT 9 3 3 5 LONGMIRE SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 72 4 5. I'M CALLING IN REGARDS TO CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 2 1 1 0 7 0 0 3 5 CD. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, UH, FIRST OF ALL, I'M A REGISTERED NURSE. I'VE WORKED ALONGSIDE PECAN VIEWS FOR, UH, JUNIOR CARE FOR GREATER THAN A YEAR AT THIS POINT. AND, UH, I AM DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF THE ZONING SITUATION THAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH TO BE APPROVED. FIRST OF ALL, IT'S A BENEFIT TO ITS COMMUNITY. UH, IF PECANS USED NEIGHBORS THAT OPPOSED COULD SEE HOW THE CARE FOR THE RESIDENTS HAPPENS INSIDE THIS FACILITY, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE AN ISSUE AT ALL. EVEN ON THE DOCKET FOR TODAY, IF APPROVED, THIS WOULD HAVE MINIMAL IMPACT BOTH VISUALLY OR REGARDING TRAFFIC INS AND OUTS, UM, FROM THEIR DRIVEWAY AS IT IS, IT'S VERY MINIMAL. IT REALLY APPEARS NO DIFFERENTLY THAN ANY OTHER RESIDENCE THERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. HOWEVER, THE IMPACT FOR THE RESIDENCE RESIDENTS THAT THIS SPACE WOULD PROVIDE FOR IF APPROVED WOULD GREATLY AFFECT THEIR LIVES IN A POSITIVE MANNER BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE A SAFE, COMFORTABLE RESIDENTIAL SETTING VERSUS A NURSING FACILITY WHERE THE STAFF RATIOS ARE VERY HIGH, UH, PATIENT-WISE PER TWO, EACH STAFF MEMBER. WHEREAS HERE, IT'S ONE TO TWO STAFF MEMBERS FOR THE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTS IN THE HOME, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY MUCH SMALLER. SO THAT BEING SAID, I I HONESTLY, I REALLY DO THINK THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE APPROVED. UM, IT IS A BENEFIT TO ITS COMMUNITY BY FAR AND LARGE. I'VE BEEN THROUGH HUNDREDS OF THESE TYPES OF HOMES HERE IN SAN ANTONIO AND PE CON VIEW SENIOR CARE STANDS FOR LITERALLY IN THE TOP THREE OUT OF ALL OF THEM THAT I'VE BEEN THROUGH. SO, AGAIN, MY NAME'S JEREMIAH MCCORRY. I'M A REGISTERED NURSE THAT IS A RESIDENT HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS, AND I'M DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION GETTING APPROVED. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BYE-BYE. HELLO, THIS IS JOHNNY SMITH AND I LIVE AT 7 0 2 6 BELMONT DRIVE, CALLING FOR CASE NUMBER Z 20 21 1 0 7 3 5 0 CD. I JUST WANTED TO VOICE MY IN FAVOR OF THE ZONING CASE NUMBER. UH, MY MOTHER HAD BEEN A RESIDENT OF THE PECAN VIEWS FOR NEARLY THREE YEARS AND LOVED IT BEFORE HER PASSING. UH, PECAN VIEWS IS A FULLY LICENSED PROFESSIONALLY RUN ASSISTED LIVING ESTABLISHMENT, AND THEY PROVIDE A WHOLESOME SERVICE IN A HOMESTYLE ATMOSPHERE AND LIVE UP TO EVERY LETTER OF WHAT ASSISTING LIVE IS. SO ONCE AGAIN, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE ZONING CHANGE. THANK YOU. HELLO COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS KATHLEEN MANNA AND I LIVE AT NINE FIVE TWO FIVE ROCHELLE ROAD. MY PHONE NUMBER IS TWO TEN SEVEN TWO THREE SEVEN ZERO TWO FIVE. I HOPE THAT YOU VOTE IN OPPOSITION TO THE CASE ENDING IN 3 5 0 CD FOR 6 9 6 0. PEMBROKE. I LIVE NEARBY AS PEMBROKE DEAD ENDS INTO ROCHELLE AND THE OT SCHNABEL PARK. ON A REGULAR BASIS, MY HUSBAND AND [04:10:01] I DRIVE ON THESE TWO LOCAL ROADS PAST THE APPLICANT'S BUSINESS. WHEN EXITING OUR COMMUNITY, I REALIZED THAT RESIDENTIAL ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES BY RIGHT CAN HAVE SIX RESIDENTS PER THE CODE. THE CITY CAN PERMIT FOR MORE RESIDENTS AT A FACILITY IF THERE'S A NEED FOR REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION TO AFFORD PERSONS OR GROUPS OF PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO USE AND ENJOY HOUSING. THERE ARE ALREADY NUMEROUS RESIDENTIAL ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, ALONG WITH SEVERAL COMMERCIAL ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AND MORE OF EACH IN ADJACENT COMMUNITIES WITHIN A TWO MILE PERIMETER. MY FATHER-IN-LAW LIVED IN ONE OF THESE WONDERFUL NEARBY COMMERCIAL ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES, WHICH WE KNOW IS WELL MANAGED AND HAS AVAILABLE BEDS. ONE OF THE LARGER RESIDENTIAL ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS JUST COMING ONLINE. SO I WOULD EXPECT THAT ADDITIONAL BEDS ARE SOON TO BE AVAILABLE OTHER THAN TO SUPPORT A BUSINESS MODEL. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS JUSTIFIED THAT A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION IS REQUIRED AT THIS FACILITY. I ALSO FIND IT DISHEARTENING WHEN THE APPLICANT IN SUPPORTERS THAT WERE IN FAVOR DISPARAGED COMMERCIAL ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES DURING A RECENT COMMUNITY MEETING AS A JUSTIFICATION FOR GRANTING THE APPLICANT MORE BEDS. SURELY THERE ARE BAD ACTORS IN THE RESIDENTIAL ASSISTED LIVING BUSINESS COMMUNITY AS WELL, BUT KEEPING IT POSITIVE, I THINK PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS THAT MAY BE SATISFIED IN RESIDENTIAL AND OR COMMERCIAL ASSISTED LIVING COMMUNITIES. I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH OPTIONS IN OUR IMMEDIATE AREA. AND SO THIS CONDITIONAL ZONING ON A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ESTATE LOT IN THE HEART OF OUR COMMUNITY IS NOT NEEDED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND SUPPORT. HI, THIS IS LORI JONES. I'M CALLING, UH, MY NU ADDRESS IS 3 9 0 3 MONTE VERDE WAY, SAN ANTONIO TEX ONE. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 307-8395. I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO CASE NUMBER WITH THE LAST THREE DIGITS OF THREE FIVE OH, THAT'S 3 5 0. AND, UH, FOLLOWED BY A C AND A D. AND I AM IN FAVOR OF, UM, THE CASE BEING APPROVED. MY, MY MOTHER WAS A PATIENT, UM, AT THIS, UH, AT THIS UM, PLACE AND THEY WERE EXTREMELY CARING AND, AND CAREFUL WITH MY MOTHER, AND I HAD NOTHING BUT A GOOD EXPERIENCE. SO I CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE, UM, THE APPROVAL FOR THIS ZONING AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO GIVE ANY, ANY MORE INFORMATION. BUT AGAIN, PLEASE APPROVE THIS, THIS, UM, THIS ZONING REQUEST. SANDRA EDWARDS 6 7 6 3 PEMBROKE ROAD, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO FOUR OH. PHONE NUMBER (210) 883-5548. CASE NUMBER Z TWENTY TWENTY TWENTY ONE TEN SEVEN ZERO ZERO THREE FIVE ZERO CD. I AM, MY POSITION IS I AM IN OPPOSITION TO CHANGING THE HOME DOWN THE STREET FROM SIX BEDS TO 10 BEDS. I BELIEVE IT'S GONNA COMPLETELY CHANGE THE CONCEPT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH I DO NOT PARTICULARLY CARE FOR. I HAVE BEEN HERE 32 YEARS. I LIKE THE RUSTIC CHARM AS IS GREAT THAT THEY WANT TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE, BUT THIS IS NOT ABOUT THAT. WHAT THIS IS ABOUT IS THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD AND THERE IS A BUSINESS TRYING TO EXPAND WITHIN IT. AND I AM IN OPPOSITION TO THAT. THERE HAS BEEN MORE TRAFFIC ON OUR STREET. THERE IS EXCESSIVE LIGHTING IN THEIR YARD ACCORDING TO THE NEIGHBORS. I LIVE ON THE STREET WITH THEM AND I'VE SPOKEN WITH MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND WENT TO THE MEETING AT THORNTON. AND IT'S JUST A VERY UNEASY FEELING THAT WE FEEL OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS BEING CHANGED. POTENTIALLY OUR TAXES COULD GO UP, THEY COULD ASK FOR MORE BEDS UP TO 16. AND THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD FOR FAMILIES TO ENJOY LIFE. AND THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT WHETHER LOTS ON THE STREET WHEN THEY COME UP FOR PUR, YOU KNOW, SALE WILL BE PURCHASED BY, YOU KNOW, THIS FAMILY WHO HAS SAID THEY, THEY ARE INTERESTED IN PURCHASING MORE PROPERTIES AND WHOEVER ELSE IN THEIR FAMILY MAY WANT TO. AND, YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY IT'S GONNA TURN INTO MORE AND MORE. WE ALREADY HAVE ONE OF THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES UP THE STREET. THIS IS THE SECOND ONE WE HAVE ON OUR STREET. SO WHEN IS ENOUGH ENOUGH? I THINK THAT THIS IS MEANT TO BE A NEIGHBORHOOD FOR FAMILIES [04:15:01] AND THAT IT DOES NOT BELONG IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT VOTE ANNA SANDOVAL VOTE, ANNA SANDOVAL, ROBERTS SIPES, ET CETERA, WILL VOTE NO AGAINST THIS AND KEEP THE CURRENT INTEGRITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS IS. UH, THEY CAN HAVE THEIR SIX BEDS THAT THEY'VE GOT NOW, THEY'RE LEGALLY ALLOWED, BUT I JUST DO NOT FEEL, AND MOST OF THE NEIGHBORS ON THIS STREET THAT I'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH HAVE SAID THE EXACT SAME THING. WE LIKE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, RURAL WITHOUT A LOT OF TRAFFIC. WE HAVE A LOT OF DEER. IT'S RUSTIC AND IT'S THE LAST PROPERTY LIKE THIS. I THINK IT'S SAN ANTONIO, SO WE'D LIKE TO LEAVE IT THAT WAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HI, MY NAME IS SUSAN ERS. I LIVE AT 8 5 2 5 ROCHELLE ROAD. I'M CALLING ABOUT CASE NUMBER Z DASH 2 0 2 1 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 3 5 0 CD. I AM CALLING IN OPPOSITION OF THIS ZONING CHANGE. I AM IN OPPOSITION BECAUSE THIS ZONING REQUEST IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE APPROVED EBNER LEON CREEK COMMUNITY PLAN THAT WE DEVELOPED WITH THE CITY IN 2009 IN ORDER TO PROTECT OUR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ESTATE LAND USE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THE REQUESTED ZONING USE FOR THIS PROPERTY IS AN ASSISTED LIVING FOR UP TO 16 RESIDENTS. THE CURRENT RE REQUEST HAS BEEN DOWNSIZED TO 10, BUT IT IS NOT IN A MULTI-FAMILY OR COMMERCIAL LAND USE AREA. IT IS NOT OUT OF THE REALM OF CONSIDERATION TO SEE THAT THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE REQUESTING THIS CHANGE MAY VERY WELL RETURN AND BE ASKED TO ALLOW TO CONTINUE DEVELOPMENT FOR THE ADDITIONAL SIX RESIDENTS. ALLOWING THIS CHANGE TO OCCUR WILL RESULT IN CHANGING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE FOLLOWING WAYS. NUMBER ONE, THE ZONING WILL RESULT IN DEVELOPMENT ON PEMBROKE AS THOUGH IT WAS AN ART ARTERIAL TYPE OF ROAD. IT IS NOT, IT IS A LOCAL ROAD. NUMBER TWO, IT CONFLICTS WITH A LOW DENSITY DEVELOPMENT PLAN ALREADY APPROVED BY THE HENER LEON CREEK COMMUNITY PLAN. NUMBER THREE, I WONDER IF THE CURRENT SEPTIC SYSTEM MEETS THE COUNTY REQUIREMENTS FOR A PROPERTY WITH THIS MANY BEDROOMS AND OR RESIDENCE. NUMBER FOUR, IT WILL INFRINGE ON THE NEIGHBORS BY SUCH THINGS AS INCREASING LIGHT POLLUTION, INCREASING TRAFFIC BY USE OF SUPPORT VEHICLES, WHICH ARE USED BY THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS AS WELL AS E M S VEHICLES WHEN NEEDED. ALL OF THIS DIMINISHES THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS AS WELL AS THE COUNTRY ATMOSPHERE THAT WE CURRENTLY ENJOY. IT WILL ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPMENT OF MORE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES THROUGHOUT THIS AREA AS WELL AS IN NEIGHBORING AREAS. ADDITIONALLY, NUMBER FIVE, I'M SORRY. ADDITIONALLY, CHANGING THIS PROPERTY TO A CD DESIGNATION IS A FOREVER CHANGE AND ONE THAT MAY VERY WELL CHANGE THIS AREA INTO SOMETHING WE DO NOT WANT. IT WILL NOT BE THE PEACEFUL COUNTRY ENVIRONMENT TO RAISE YOUR CHILDREN AND ENJOY NATURE THAT WE CURRENTLY ENJOY. IT WILL NO LONGER BE A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ESTATE DESIGNATED NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. UH, YES. MY NAME IS WILLIAM GUTTER. UH, CASE NUMBER Z 2 MILLION 21 1 0 7 0 0 3 5 0 CD. UH, REGARDING THE PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT CHANGE FOR 69 60 PEMBROKE ROAD. UH, AGAIN, MY NAME IS WILLIAM GUTTER. MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED AT 67 20 PEMBROKE ROAD FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS. AND WE WOULD, UH, WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE, UH, ZONING DISTRICT CHANGE FROM AN RE TO AN R E C D. WE WOULD, WE WISH TO SEE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN ALAMO FARMSTEADS KEEP ITS INTEGRITY AS ORIGINALLY INTENDED AND WE DO NOT WANT TO SEE, UH, COMMERCIAL EXPANSION OF THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY, UH, AT 69 60 PEMBROKE ROAD. UH, EXPAND TO 10 RESIDENTS. WE'RE FINE WITH THE, WITH THE SIX THAT THE LAW ALLOWS, BUT WE DO NOT WANT TO SEE ANY COMMERCIAL EXPANSION IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEREFORE, UH, WE ARE, I AM IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT CHANGE. THANK YOU. [04:20:01] THAT'S ALL WE HAVE, MR. CHAIR. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, MR. AND MRS. GICK GICK, I'M SORRY, EXCUSE ME. UM, IF YOU'D LIKE A SHORT REBUTTAL, PLEASE, I'LL TRY TO KEEP YOU SHORT. WELL, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THREE MINUTES, SO THAT'S WHAT YOU GET. OKAY. SO, UM, UH, IT IS TRUE. YEAH, WE ARE OWNED BY A COURT, BUT IT'S MY WIFE AND I, MY C P A TOLD US STRUCTURE IT THIS WAY, SO WE'RE NOT BACKED BY LARGE FUNDING. IT'S LITERALLY MY WIFE AND I WE'RE THE PROPERTY OWNERS. WE FILE OUR TAXES AS AN S-CORP. WE'RE THE CORPORATION OWNERS. SO, AND THEN PECAN VIEWS IS A DOING BUSINESS AS I HEARD A COUPLE COMMENTS ABOUT QUIET ENJOYMENT. UH, THESE ARE 85 AND 95 YEAR OLD SENIOR CITIZENS. THEY'RE, THEY'RE USUALLY IN BED BY 7:00 PM WE'RE NOT THROWING RAGES. THE CRAZIEST IT GETS THERE IS WE'LL HIRE ENTERTAINMENT. SOMEONE WITH AN ACCORDION WILL COME AND DO SOME LIVE MUSIC AFTER LUNCH. UM, SO I DON'T, TO BE HONEST, I THINK THAT A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS WILL STILL HAVE QUIET ENJOYMENT AND USE. AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO US HONESTLY BECAUSE I, I UNDERSTAND THESE ARE MY NEIGHBORS. THIS IS WHERE THEY GO TO WORK, THEY COME HOME, THIS IS WHERE THEY DO LIFE. AND SO, UM, AS AS IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT FOR OUR SENIORS, YEAH, AS YOU SAW, THEY DON'T HATE US AS A, AS A COUPLE. YOU KNOW, I'VE TALKED WITH MANY OF THEM FOR HOURS. UM, THEY JUST DON'T LIKE THE BUSINESS MODEL, WHICH IS FINE. THAT'S THEIR OPINION. THERE WAS SOME, UH, COMMENTS REGARDING PARKING IF YOU'D LIKE. I CAN GO OVER IT AGAIN. I THINK THE, THE SITE PLAN SHOWED THAT WE HAD MORE THAN SUFFICIENT PARKING. SHOULD WE BE ALLOWED WITHOUT ANY FUTURE EXPANSIONS? UH, THERE WAS, UM, SOME COMMENTS REGARDING A PRECEDENCE. IF THAT WERE THE CASE, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE. SO I'LL JUST KEEP THAT SHORT. 'CAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER CASES THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED. UM, THE GENTLEMAN FROM HOUSTON, HE HAD SOME EXAMPLES OF CRAZY MIXED USES. I DON'T THINK THIS WOULD OPEN THE DOOR TO LIKE RESTAURANTS AND GAS STATIONS COMING DOWN OUR STREET. THIS IS A CD APPLICATION, WHICH IS CONDITIONAL USE. THE BAY ZONING OF RESIDENTIAL ESTATE REMAINS. WE PRESERVE IT, WE WANT TO PRESERVE IT. THIS IS GENERALLY RESERVED, UH, BY CODE THROUGH, UH, FOR MULTIFAMILY LOTS. IT'S TRUE. BUT WITH THE CD, THE REASON THESE ARE PREFERRED, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT'S AN ADJACENT USE AND IT'S VERY, VERY SPECIFIC. NOBODY COULD COME IN AND OPEN A NURSING FACILITY, HALFWAY HOUSE, BOARDING HOME, NONE OF THAT. IT'S SPECIFIC TO AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY. UH, I HEAR THAT THERE'S MANY LONGSTANDING RESIDENTS, WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE SERVING. UH, WE HAVE RESIDENTS IN OUR HOME THAT WE'RE CARING FOR, THAT HAVE GROWN UP IN THE AREA AND THEY'VE AGED OUT OF THEIR HOMES. THEY'RE NO LONGER TO LIVE AT HOME, SO THEY CAN COME DOWN THE ROAD AND THEY CAN LIVE OUT THE END OF THEIR DAYS, IN A SENSE. UM, RIGHT IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE THEY GREW UP. UM, DELIVERY TRUCKS, UH, EVERYBODY ORDERS AMAZON. I CAN'T CONTROL HOW MUCH FEDEX AND U P SS COMES DOWN OUR ROAD. UM, UNFORTUNATELY, UH, THERE WAS, UM, OTHER COMMENTS REGARDING THE COMMERCIAL CHARACTERISTIC. AS YOU SEE IN THE SITE PLAN, ANY FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE TO THE REAR. THERE IS LIKE A LITTLE SECTION THAT KIND OF STICKS OUT BEYOND WHAT THE UM, EXISTING KIND OF FRONT LINE WOULD BE. THAT'S JUST FOR EGRESS. THIS IS NOT LIKE A PLAN IN CONCRETE. RIGHT. IT WAS LIKE A BACK OF THE ENVELOPE. HOW MUCH WOULD WE POSSIBLY USE? I SPOKE WITH SUMMER AND SHE MENTIONED THAT WE'LL BE HELD TO THE SITE PLAN, SO IT COULD NEVER BE ANY LARGER. SO I SAID OKAY, JUST IN CASE. LET'S, LET'S SEE WHAT IT COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE. UH, WE HAVE SMALL CHILDREN WE WALK THE STREET TO, AND OUR SEWER AND WATER IS SUFFICIENT FOR OUR LOAD. SORRY. YOU GOT IT. I TRIED TO GET IT IN THREE MINUTES. THERE WAS YOU GOT IT IN. THERE WAS A LOT THERE. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. ALRIGHT, THIS IS A DISTRICT SEVEN CASE, SO, UH, COMMISSIONER SIPES, YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN CALLED OUT, SO IT'S TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE I DON'T, MAYBE I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL. UM, BUT, UM, LET ME SEE. I WROTE, I WROTE DOWN SO MANY THINGS. UM, I GUESS THE, THE FIRST QUESTION IS FOR ONE OF THE RESIDENTS THAT SPOKE AND THAT WAS, LEMME SEE, LEMME SEE. WHERE IS IT? WHERE IS IT? WHERE IS IT? I DON'T BELIEVE IF IT WAS MS. LORI WHO NOTED IT, BUT THAT THERE WAS A, ANOTHER, A NEW ASSISTED LIVING BEING OPEN ON HOLLY HAWK. AND, AND SO I GUESS THE, THE QUESTION FOR STAFF IS, DO YOU, IS IT WAS STATED THAT IT WAS 16 BEDS AND I WAS WONDERING WHERE THAT EXACTLY WAS, WAS, OR WAS. I DON'T REMEMBER IF WE EVER REZONED I THAT PROPERTY OR NOT. THAT'S FINE. THAT'S FINE. OR, OR THE LAW IS ZONED IN 33. OH, OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S WHY RIGHT. MF 33, ALL MF 33 ALLOWS MORE DENSITY. GOT IT. OKAY. OKAY. GOT IT. GOT IT, GOT IT. OKAY. THAT ANSWERS THAT. [04:25:01] UM, MAN, YOU KNOW, I, I WANNA, FIRST, I WANNA THANK ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT CAME OUT. Y'ALL REALLY HAD GOOD PRESENTATIONS. I WANNA THANK THE APPLICANTS THAT CAME OUT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS AND IT LEAVES ME UP HERE JUST, UH, VAMPING FOR TIME TO THINK OF ANOTHER QUESTION TO ASK. SO I WILL SEE IF OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS FIRST WHILE I'M THINKING. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER EPS, WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT QUESTIONS HERE. I JUST WANNA KNOW HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN IN BUSINESS OPERATING IN THAT LOCATION? VERY GOOD. THAT'S ALL. IF YOU COULD ANSWER THAT QUE PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM TO ANSWER. BELIEVE IT'S HARD TO REMEMBER COVID, IT'S GOT MY MIND A LITTLE FOGGY, BUT IT WAS IN 2020 THAT WE WERE OFFICIALLY LICENSED, SO ABOUT THREE YEARS THERE. AND, BUT WE'VE BEEN OPERATING, UH, SINCE 2015. MY PARENTS HAVE A PROPERTY NEARBY AND MY MOM DID THIS BUSINESS FOR LIKE 30 YEARS, SO I KIND OF GREW UP IN A HOME SIMILAR TO THIS. AND THEN THEY WANTED TO MOVE, BUT THEY WEREN'T QUITE READY. SO THEN I, WE HELPED THEM THROUGH THE LICENSING PROCESS. WE LEASED THAT PROPERTY FOR TWO YEARS OR A YEAR AND A HALF. AND THEN, UM, SHE, ONCE SHE MOVED, SHE TOOK OVER THAT, BUT SINCE THEN SHE'S HAD SOME HEALTH ISSUES. SHE'S NO LONGER INVOLVED. SHE'S, SHE'S OUT OF THAT. SO WE, WE'VE, MY WIFE AND I HAVE BEEN DOING IT SINCE 2015. WE'VE BEEN ON PEMBROKE SINCE 2018 AND WE'VE BEEN LICENSED IN THAT, UH, LOCATION SINCE 2020. SO THE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY YOU AND YOUR WIFE? CORRECT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. COMMISSIONER KAMATH QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. SO, UH, ON THAT SIDE PLAN THAT YOU SHOWED, HOW MANY SQUARE FOOT OF ADDITIONAL SPACE THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE? I THINK WE HAD FIGURED IT WAS AROUND TWO 2000. IS THAT THE ADDITIONAL SPACE? YEAH, SO THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE FOUR BEDROOMS, FOUR, UH, HALF BATHS, HALLWAY SPACE. UM, I THINK THERE WAS A STORAGE CLOSET. AND, UM, THAT, THAT SECTION THAT KIND OF WRAPS AROUND IS LIKE A, LIKE A LIVING ROOM LIBRARY, LIKE A SEATING AREA, LIKE AN ADDITIONAL SEATING AREA FOR, UH, IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE ADDITIONAL, UH, RESIDENCE? YEAH. SO, UH, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE WAY THE HOUSE IS BUILT WITH THIS SECTION THAT CONNECTS TO IT, THERE ARE FOUR BEDROOMS THERE THAT ARE TECHNICALLY SIZE BY STATE FOR TO HOUSE UP TO 10. OUR LICENSE, WE DON'T HAVE 10. WE, OUR LICENSE CAPS AT SIX. OH, I HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. SURE. UH, SO IF YOU ADD THIS ADDITIONAL, UH, RESIDENCE, HOW MANY ADDITIONAL STAFF DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE? UH, WE HAVE PROBABLY A ONE FULL-TIME, TWO PART-TIME. YEAH. YOU HAVE, UH, SUFFICIENT PARKING FOR THEM? YES. YOU, YOU, YOU ALSO LIVE THERE, RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY. UH, YEAH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KAMATH. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER WATSON, UH, QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, IS THERE ANY PARKING REQUIREMENT THAT GOES WITH THIS CONDITIONAL USE THAT'S EXPLICIT IN TERMS OF LIKE, NUMBER SPACES, ET CETERA? THE MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENT IS WITH SEVEN OR MORE RESIDENTS IS 0.3 PER RESIDENT, PLUS ONE SPACE FOR EACH EMPLOYEE. THANK YOU. UM, AND THEN FOR THE APPLICANT IT MIGHT JUST BE, 'CAUSE I CAN'T SEE THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE THING, BUT I DON'T SEE SPACES ON YOUR SITE MAP. WHERE DO PEOPLE CURRENTLY, OH, I DON'T HAVE A PARK. WHAT IS YOUR, SO IF YOU SCROLL DOWN. SORRY, JUST A LITTLE BIT. UP A LITTLE BIT. SORRY. SO RIGHT, THERE'S THE ENTRANCE OF THE PROPERTY AND THEN THEY, THEY PULL IN AND THEY, THEY PARK TO THE RIGHT. SO THEY KINDA LINE UP. OKAY, SO THE DRIVE IS WHAT YOU'RE USING IS PARKING BASICALLY? CORRECT? YEAH, THERE'S A OKAY, LIKE A PAD TO THE SIDE IF YOU'LL, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT WHO AREN'T NAMED SIPES. ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER SIPES BACK TO YOU FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO COME UP WITH . BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, SO HOPEFULLY THAT'S NOT GONNA COME AND BITE ME IN THE END. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, I'LL GIVE YOU ONE QUESTION. YOU NEED IT? GIMME A QUESTION. NO, NO, JUST SHOULD YOU NEED IT IN THE I GOTCHA. AFTER DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE MOTION. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, SO, SO THANK YOU. UM, I DON'T, YEAH, YOU CAN, YOU CAN SIT BACK DOWN. THANKS. UM, THIS [04:30:01] IS, THIS IS A SURPRISINGLY DIFFICULT CASE. UM, AND IT'S NOT A, A SIMPLE YES OR NO ANSWER BECAUSE, UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S JUST A REALLY COMPLEX CASE. UM, I I I SYMPATHIZE WITH BOTH PARTIES, BOTH THE APPLICANT AND, AND THE, THE HOMEOWNERS. UM, UH, A BIT OF BACKGROUND AND, AND MY COMMISSIONERS HATE 'CAUSE I DO THIS EVERY, EVERY MEETING. I, I GO, HEY, I I USED TO LIVE OVER IN THAT AREA. UM, SO, UM, I'M A MARSHALL GRADUATE, SO I KNOW THIS AREA. THIS IS, YOU KNOW, SPENT MUCH TIME WITH FRIENDS OVER IN THIS AREA. UM, A LOT OF GOOD POINTS HAVE BEEN MADE AND I BELIEVE THAT THE, THE, THE APPLICANTS HAVE, UM, MADE ACCOMMODATIONS BY REDUCING THE NUMBER FROM 16 TO 10. UM, I, I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF THE CD BECAUSE IT CAN ADD RESTRICTIONS. THAT SAID, UM, I'M GONNA BE MAKING A MOTION FOR DENIAL. AND THE REASON IS, UM, I I I DON'T HAVE CONCERNS OVER TRAFFIC. UM, MY NEIGHBOR WHO LIVES ACROSS THE STREET GETS A AMAZON TRUCK OR A, EVERY SINGLE DAY, MULTIPLE TIMES. IT SEEMS I'VE SAID THAT BEFORE. I KNOW. OKAY, SORRY. UM, I DON'T HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC. ONE BECAUSE OF THE, UH, THE, THE DRIVING RANGE DOWN THE STREET. UM, IT, IT, AND, UM, THERE'S A, A MULTITUDE OF USES AROUND THESE COUPLE OF STREETS. UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC IN AND AROUND THE AREA. UM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE VERDE HILLS CASE WHERE THERE WAS A SINGLE ENTRANCE AND EXIT AND IT WAS, THAT WHOLE AREA WAS 100% RESIDENTIAL. UM, UH, THIS AREA, THE ALAMO FARMSTEADS, IF YOU LIKE, ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT, IS, IS, HAS, HAS A MIX OF, OF SOME REALLY NICE DIFFERENT FIELDS. UM, BUT MY CONCERN IS UNFORTUNATELY OVER A PRECEDENT THAT THAT COULD BE SET. UM, IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF BLOCK, IT'S NOT ON THE EDGE. AND I'VE, I'VE SEEN HOW THIS AREA HAS CHANGED SINCE THE, THE 1980S WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL OVER THERE. UM, AND I'VE SEEN THE, THE, THE SLOW EROSION YOU MIGHT SAY OF, OF, OF A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS COMPLETELY HUGE LOTS, UM, WITH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE VARIOUS SMALLER SUBDIVISIONS THAT, THAT WERE BUILT. UM, AND, AND OTHER USES THAT WERE INTRODUCED. UM, EVEN WITH THE, UH, INTRODUCTION OF THE, UH, UM, USED TO BE LIKE, I THINK IT WAS A PAR THREE AT THE TIME. UM, THE, SO FOR ME, THE ALAMO FARMSTEADS HAS ALMOST BEEN SHRUNK DOWN TO JUST A COUPLE STREETS AND HAVING A, UM, A SIX BED OR SIX RESIDENT, UH, FACILITY IS, IS, IS ACCEPTABLE, OBVIOUSLY, UM, AND ALLOWED. UM, BUT I DO FEAR THAT IF WE ALLOWED ADDITIONAL, IF WE ALLOWED IT TO, TO, TO BE, TO HAVE 10, THAT THE FACILITY DOWN THE STREET WOULD SAY, WELL, YOU ALLOWED 10 THERE. I'M THE, I'M, I OPERATE THE SAME TYPE OF THING AND THIS, AND, YOU KNOW, WHY CAN'T I HAVE 10? AND, YOU KNOW, THEN SOMEONE ELSE BUYING UP AND, AND UNFORTUNATELY Y'ALL LIVE IN LARGE LOTS AND SO THAT, THAT WITH RANCH STYLE HOMES, WHICH ARE PERFECT FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. UM, UM, SO, SO IT, FOR ME, IT'S A, IT'S ABOUT WHAT COULD HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE AND, AND, AND KIND OF PROTECTING WHAT HAS, UM, WHAT'S [04:35:01] LEFT OF, OF WHAT I CALLED ALAMO FARMSTEADS. UM, AND SO I AM RELUCTANTLY, BUT BECAUSE I, I REALLY, I REALLY, UM, THINK THE OWNERS HAVE, HAVE, HAVE, UH, DONE A GREAT JOB AND, UM, BUT I AM MAKING A MOTION FOR DENIAL. ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR DENIAL OF ITEM 12 BY COMMISSIONER SIPES. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL RIGHT. THERE IS A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON AND A POTENTIAL THIRD, BUT WE'LL STICK WITH THE SECOND. UM, I DO ENJOY YOUR HIGH SCHOOL STORIES, I MEAN, EVEN AS A CLARK GRAD . UM, SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK OTHERWISE WE BEAT Y'ALL 23 6. I DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT THIS. OKAY. THAT'S IT. THIS IS HOW WE MOVE ON. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT, UH, JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION. UM, I RESPECT, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, SYKES. HE ANALYZES, UH, UH, VERY DEEPLY. UH, AND ALSO I APPRECIATE ALL THE RESIDENTS WHO COME DOWN HERE TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINION, BUT I, I LOOK AT, UH, THESE TWO ENTREPRENEURS, THE YOUNG, A NURSE AND A HUSBAND, UH, TAKING CARE OF, UH, SIX RESIDENTS WHO ARE IN THEIR 82, 90 YEARS OLD. HERE THEY ARE ASKING US TO ADD, UH, ANOTHER FOUR MORE. THAT IS, THAT IS REALLY, UH, VERY HONORABLE FOR THEM TO COME UP AND REQUEST THIS BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S A BUSINESS, BUT STILL TAKING CARE OF THE 80 TO 90 IS NOT EASY AND IT'S NOT EASY TO FIND A ASSISTED LIVING SPACE LIKE THIS. I'VE SEEN THE OTHER ASSISTED LIVINGS IN TOWN, THE HORROR STORIES LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE A TRACK RECORD AND, UH, THEY HAVE A PLAN. I THINK ADDING ANOTHER FOUR, UH, IS ACCEPTABLE AS I, I BELIEVE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. I CAN GET MY MASK OFF. UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. THANK YOU CHAIR. UM, I SUPPORT THE MOTION AND MINE IS JUST VERY SIMPLY, THIS IS A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS AND DOES NOT BELONG IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL BLOCK. AND I THINK I'M PRETTY CONSISTENT ON THOSE, UH, TYPES OF ZONING REQUESTS. UH, KUDOS TO THE COUPLE FOR DOING APPARENTLY AN OUTSTANDING JOB AND MAKING IT A, A NICE PLACE FOR THESE RESIDENTS TO, UH, LIVE THEIR REMAINING YEARS. HOWEVER, THAT SAID, WHEN YOU'RE PLANNING YOUR BUSINESS MODEL, YOU PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT WHEN YOU'RE GONNA WANNA EXPAND AND DETERMINE AHEAD OF TIME IF THAT PROPERTY IS GONNA BE SUITABLE FOR THAT. AND GIVEN THAT YOUR PARENTS, I GUESS, HAVE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS, YOU PROBABLY HAD SOME KNOWLEDGE OF THAT. SO, UM, YOU'LL GET TO KEEP YOUR SIX RESIDENTS IF THE MOTION, UH, PASSES AS IT IS. AND I HOPE AND WISH YOU CONTINUED SUCCESS WITH THAT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER S SIPES, LAST WORD. ANY IF YOU, IF YOU WANT? NO, NO REQUIREMENT. VERY GOOD. ALRIGHT. THE MOTION IS FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER S SIPES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON FOR ITEM NUMBER 12. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? NO. COMMISSIONER WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? UH, NO. COMMISSIONER BARROS? NO. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER. OH. CHAIR BUSANTE. IT ACTUALLY DOESN'T MATTER. UM, SO YES. AYE ONE MOTION PASSES FOR DENIAL. NO, IT DOES NOT. MOTION FAILS. MOTIONS APOLOGIES. MOTION FAILS. MOTION FAILS. FIVE TO THREE. ALRIGHT THERE. UM, ONCE AGAIN, BECAUSE THE MOTION FAILED, UH, WE CAN HAVE A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION BY SOMEONE WHO VOTED AGAINST THIS MOTION COURT. LET ME EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT. SORRY. SO, UM, IN ORDER FOR A MOTION TO PASS, YOU NEED SIX PEOPLE TO [04:40:01] VOTE FOR THE MOTION AND THEY ONLY HAD FIVE. SO THAT'S WHY THE MOTION FAILS. SO WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT LEFT AND WE DIDN'T REACH THE REQUISITE. WE, WE HAVE A QUORUM. WE'RE GOOD. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM SIX TO APPROVE A MOTION. RIGHT. SO, UH, THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION TO RECON FOR, UH, MOTION TO RECONSIDER OR A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION BY SOMEONE WHO VOTED AGAINST THE PREVIOUS MOTION. AND IF THERE IS NO MOTION TO RECONSIDER, THEN THAT'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR RECONSIDER. SO CLOSE. SO CLOSE. ALRIGHT. THERE IS A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. ALRIGHT. MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. BARTOS? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? NO. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? UH, YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? NO. COMMISSIONER SIPES? NO. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. AND, AND AND THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER? THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER FAILS. VERY GOOD. SO BECAUSE THAT MOTION FAILS, YOU NEED TO HAVE IN ORDER A CASE NEEDS TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO HEARINGS, UM, IN ORDER TO PROCEED FORWARD IF THERE IS, UH, NO MOTION THAT'S ABLE TO BE MADE. SO BECAUSE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER DID NOT PASS THIS CASE HAS TO COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS. AGAIN, GREAT. UNLESS SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENS WITH THE APPLICANT AND, UH, AND THEIR DETERMINATION ON THE APPLICATION, BUT IF THEY WISH TO PROCEED, IT HAS TO COME BACK. ALRIGHT. UH, THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THIS WAS FOR NOTHING, NOTHING TO BE CLEAR. BUT WE DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS TOOK A GREAT DEAL OF TIME AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT AND WE CONSIDERED IT CAREFULLY, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THE WAY THAT THIS BODY WORKS ARE RULES DOES REQUIRE SIX VOTES TO TAKE AN ACTION. AND WE JUST DID NOT GET THERE IN THIS CASE. UM, SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND CONTRIBUTING TO THIS PROCESS. UH, IT'S NOT ALWAYS FUN TO SEE HOW THE SAUSAGE IS MADE. I THINK MR. STRINGER WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO SAID HE MIGHT WANT TO COME BACK. UM, . BUT, UH, IN ANY EVENT, THANK YOU ALL AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON NOW TO ITEM NUMBER 14. DO WE GET DINNER IF, IF WE DON'T GET DINNER? SO, BUT THANK YOU ALL. WE ALL GET DINNER. WE USED TO ON THE BOOK. WE DON'T ANYMORE. YEAH, WE USED TO LOVE, WE USED TO AS WELL. RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WE GOT TOUGH CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. AND, UH, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT IT'S 6:00 PM AND COMMISSIONER BARDOS IS LEAVING. IS GAIL STILL ON? WE STILL HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, BUT WE DO HAVE A QUORUM WITHOUT COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT, LET'S PROCEED WITH ITEM 14. GOOD. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL'S BACK TOO. OKAY, GOOD EVENING. DESPINA ZAKO ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. I'M NUMBER 14, IS LOCATED 2 3 7 7 5 INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 10 WEST GOING FROM R SIX TO C THREE. WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME. THERE ARE SEVEN NOTICES SENT OUT. ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO POSE IN NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE PRIMARILY C TWO AND C THREE, ALTHOUGH C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL IS GENERALLY COMPATIBLE WITH CURRENTLY AND USE C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS ARE BETTER SUITED WITH SURROUNDING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS. THE C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ALLOWS FOR THE USE OF FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT WITH ALCOHOL SALES, WHICH IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE APPLICANT'S DESIRE TO USE AS A RESTAURANT. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF C TWO. THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND STAFF IS ALSO AVAILABLE. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. AS THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PRESENT WHERE MR. WEIR, IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF, GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US ABOUT YOUR REZONING REQUEST. YES. HI, PAUL WEIR, 1 28 MARY TRAIL, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 3 2. UH, I'M ONE OF THE OWNERS, THE OPERATING OWNERS OF THE LONGHORN CAFE HERE IN TOWN. UH, MY PARTNER DAVID WYNN AND I PLAYED HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL, UH, HERE AT CHURCHILL, GRADUATED FROM U T S A TOGETHER AND WE OPENED A BUSINESS TOGETHER. UM, THERE WE GO. SO WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING IS, UH, WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY AND IT WAS, IT WAS UNDER BEXAR COUNTY, WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, UM, AND IT WAS, UH, LISTED AS R SIX AND, UH, DURING CONSTRUCTION, THE CITY ANNEXED, UM, YOU CAN SWITCH UP THE NEXT ONE. YOU CAN SEE THE CITY ANNEXED IN [04:45:01] TWO WAS, UH, ANNEXED THAT AREA IN 2003. UM, AND SO IT'S BEEN LISTED R SIX SINCE THEN. WE'VE BEEN OPERATING FOR 20 YEARS NOW, UH, UNDER RESIDENTIAL. UM, TO ME I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A VERY EASY TYPE THING. COME FILL OUT AN APPLICATION. I'VE DEALT WITH THE CITY AND T A B C A LOT, UM, BUT TO WATCH, IT'S AMAZING. UH, AND I DO APPLAUD YOUR WORK AND THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. UM, THE LAS FPAS NEXT TO US IS STILL ZONED R SIX AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAD ANY IMPACT ON IT. UM, SO IN 2003 WE OPENED UP, UH, LONGHORN ICE HOUSE OF GRILL. UM, JUST ONE BINGO. SORRY, IT'S GONNA, I KNOW IT'S DINNER TIME, BUT I'M AS HUNGRY AS YOU ARE. UH, WE HAD GREAT SUCCESS. IT'S BEEN, BEEN FANTA IT WAS FANTASTIC FOR, YOU KNOW, FIRST 10, 15 YEARS. UH, AND THEN THE OVERVIEW OF THE ZONING MAP. THE NEXT SLIDE YOU CAN SEE, UH, C THREE, C THREE, C THREE C THREE C THREE C THREE C TWO. WE ARE JUST COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY C THREE ALL ACROSS THE OPPOSITE. THE EAST SIDE OF I 10 IS C THREE ZONED. UH, AND SO WE FEEL THAT, UH, ANY ZONING LESS THAN THAT DEVALUES OUR PROPERTY. UM, THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION OF I 10 AND THE OVERPASS THAT THEY PUT IT PAST NORTH OR WEST OF, WELL EAST OF BERNIE STAGE ROAD OR SOUTH TOWARDS SAN ANTONIO, COMPLETELY PASSES OUR PROPERTY, WHICH GREATLY IMPACTED THE SALES. AND I'VE SEEN NUMEROUS RESTAURANTS FAIL BECAUSE OF THESE OVERPASSES. UM, THAT'S ONE BIG CONCERN FOR US. WILLY'S A C THREE NACHO MAMAS A C THREE F FOLLOWS THE C THREE, THE TEXAS ROADHOUSE ACROSS THE STREET IS GONNA BE C THREE. UM, AND SO WE'D LIKE TO SEE THAT ALSO FOR OUR PROPERTY, SO THAT AT LEAST WE ARE COMPETITIVE WITH THEM. SHOULD SOMETHING HAPPEN DOWN THE ROAD AS AN AERIAL VIEW, YOU CAN SEE, UH, LA DEUCE BAR OR THE DEUCE BAR, RIGHT? THAT'S C THREE. THERE'S AN AUTO REPAIR SHOP RIGHT THERE. UM, AND THEN WE ARE RIGHT HERE. THERE'S LAS PPAS, THAT'S ALL C THREE WITH H E B. UH, THIS OVER HERE, THERE'S A CAR WASH. THERE'S WILLY'S IS OVER HERE. SO THE WHOLE AREA AND IS, YOU KNOW, VERY HIGHLY COMMERCIALLY, UH, COMMERCIALIZED AN AERIAL VIEW OF OUR PROPERTY. YOU CAN SEE, UM, ONE THING BROUGHT UP IN THE, IF YOU PLOP ONE MORE, ONE THING BROUGHT UP IN THE PLANNING COMMITTEE, UH, BACK ONE, THERE IT IS, IS A, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT A, YOU KNOW, A A BIG BOX STORE COMING IN AND TAKING OVER THAT PROPERTY. UH, IF WE, YOU KNOW, WERE TO SELL IT, AND I MEAN IT'S ONLY 1.1 ACRES. UH, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A BIG BOX STORE THAT COULD EXIST ON 1.1 ACRES. NEXT ONE. I'M NOT GONNA BEAT THIS THING TO DEATH. I THINK EVERYBODY HAS FOR SO LONG. I THINK WE'RE TIRED OF IT, BUT I CAN TELL YOU IT HAS REALLY HIT US HARD. UM, WE WERE ABLE TO KEEP ALL OUR MANAGERS EMPLOYEES, WE, WE STAYED OPEN. WE HAD TO CHANGE OUR BUSINESS MODEL SO MANY DIFFERENT TIMES TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP APPEALING TO THE CUSTOMERS AND ENSURING SAFETY. UM, BUT PART OF THIS, PART OF CORRECTING THIS COVID ISSUE THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING TO FORCE FACE AND, AND, AND OUR BUSINESS MODEL IS TO GET THIS ZONING DONE BEFORE SOMETHING ELSE SHOULD HAPPEN. 'CAUSE THIS IS THE LAST ASSET WE OWN. UH, WE HAVE LEASED ALL OUR OTHER PROPERTIES BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTEN OLDER. YOU KNOW, WE'RE 57, WE'RE NOT SPRING CHICKENS. I DON'T THINK WE'D SPEND THE MONEY THAT WE DID ON A PROPERTY LIKE THAT UNLESS WE WERE 30 AGAIN. UM, WE ARE I 10 FRONTAGE, I TEN'S A GATEWAY TO SAN ANTONIO. JUST FOLLOW OUR LITTLE WINDMILL AND YOU'LL FIND US. WE'VE GOT THE PROPERTY SET BACK. IT'S ALMOST 300 FEET SET BACK. UM, THE, UH, ATTRACTION, UH, TO THE PROPERTY IS THE HILL COUNTRY. LOOK, WE SPENT, YOU KNOW, WE WENT THROUGH THE S B A AND SPENT A A, A LOT OF MONEY TO MAKE IT LOOK AND FIT IN AT THE TIME. AND AT THE TIME THERE WASN'T ANYTHING THERE, SO WE JUST KIND OF ENVISIONED OUR ARCHITECT CAME IN AND MADE IT. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL, REALLY BEAUTIFUL [04:50:01] FRONTAGE AND IT'S ATTRACTIVE TO, UH, UH, SELLERS. UM, AND EASY ACCESS. I MEAN, THE ACCESS IS ON AND OFF AND YOU'RE ON THE HIGHWAY. UH, THERE'S AN ON-RAMP RIGHT THERE. AND SO THAT, THAT MAKES IT VERY ACCESSIBLE. ONE MORE. WHAT WILL LONGHORN CAFE BE IN 10 YEARS, 20 YEARS OR BEYOND? I HAVE NO IDEA. UH, IT'S VERY CONDUCIVE FOR A STEAKHOUSE WITH A FULL SERVICE BAR. WE ONLY HAVE A BG LICENSE, SO WE DON'T HAVE MIXED BEVERAGES. UH, WE HAVE CONTEMPLATED THAT. UM, SO WE NEED TO HAVE EXTENDED HOURS POTENTIALLY. UM, WHICH I KNOW IS NOT COVERED UNDER R SIX. UM, HERE'S THE PROPOSED ONE MORE PLEASE. YEAH, THE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO CHANGE TO, UH, C THREE. CAN'T REALLY READ IT. I DON'T HAVE MY GLASSES. AND IF YOU GO ONE MORE, THE EXISTING PLAT, YOU CAN SEE, UM, WE GOT ANNEXED. WE HAD TO BUILD A $150,000 DRAINAGE DITCH IN 2003 THAT LITERALLY SAVED THE BUILDING IN THAT HUGE FLOOD THAT WE HAD. UM, THAT A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD, UM, THAT WASHED, UH, EVERY RESTAURANT ON THE EAST SIDE OF I 10 AWAY. UM, YOU'LL SEE THE NEXT SLIDE. IT SHOWS ALL OUR NEIGHBORS, UM, AND ALL THE PROPERTIES AROUND US. THIS IS 6.2 ACRES. IT'S C TWO, IT'S BUFFERED BY A ROAD. UM, OUR PROPERTY, LAS PPAS. AND THIS PROPERTY IS OWNED BY FROST BANK. AND THE NEXT SLIDE, WE HAVE ACCEPTANCE FROM OUR NEIGHBORS. THEY AGREE WITH US, THEY HAVE NO GRUDGES, THEY'RE ALL IN FAVOR. TALKED TO BOTH OF THEM AND THEY WERE BOTH ALL FOR IT. SO THAT BEING SAID, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. UM, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. WEIR. UM, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? NO, SIR. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. THIS IS A DISTRICT EIGHT CASE, UH, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ TO YOU. UH, QUESTIONS, ACTUALLY, YOU HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. MR. WILLS, UH, REGARDING THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT NOW, ARE YOU, WHAT'S YOUR FUTURE PLAN FOR ONCE YOU, IF YOU DO GET THE APPROVAL FOR THE ZONING, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR FUTURE PLAN FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT? WELL, WE'RE GOING, WE WOULD CONTINUE, WE CONTINUE TO OPERATE AS A LONGHORN CAFE. UM, BUT I GUESS THE OLD ADAGE, EVERYTHING'S FOR SALE. UM, WE, WE'VE FED, WE'VE STRUGGLED FOR TWO YEARS AND AS MENTIONED, THIS IS OUR LAST ASSET. SO, UH, THE CASH FLOW WOULD HELP US TO CONTINUE TO GROW. UH, WE'RE ON OUR, I SAY NINE AND A HALF RESTAURANTS 'CAUSE ONE OF THEM GOT SHUT DOWN DURING COVID. UH, DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GONNA COME BACK. SO WE LOST, YOU KNOW, 150 GRAND IN IN THAT ONE. UM, SO IT'S JUST GONNA KIND OF GIVE US COMFORT TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP 200 EMPLOYEES IN, UH, EMPLOYED IN SAN ANTONIO. THANK YOU VERY. YES SIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. I'M SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER ON MY RIGHT. SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ALRIGHT, THERE BEING NO QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS, UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT EIGHT CASE COMMISSIONER ORTIZ TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION. UM, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND JUST MAKE A DISCUSSION REAL QUICK. I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO STAFF AS FAR, WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE DENIAL TRULY FOR THE CITY, FOR THE CITY STAFF, FOR THE DENIAL, RIGHT. SO, UH, THE USE THAT HE IS CONDUCTING ON THE PROPERTY AS A RESTAURANT AND IT ALREADY HAS THE ALCOHOL CELLS AND ALL OF THAT, ALL OF THAT IS ALLOWED IN THE C TWO A C THREE IS GONNA ALLOW MORE INTENSE USES, MORE OF THOSE USES THAT ARE MAYBE LESS DESIRABLE. THE AUTO USE IS ALL OF THAT IN THE CORRIDOR. UM, AND ALSO THE UNDERLYING LAND USE RIGHT NOW IS A SUBURBAN TIER. OKAY. AND SO A C TWO FITS WITH THAT CATEGORY AS WELL. SO THAT WAS STAFF'S THOUGHT PROCESS ON THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND MR. WEER, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO CONSIDER A C TWO FROM AN R SIX? WELL, I, YOU KNOW, I'VE CONSIDERED IT FOR, YOU KNOW, A FEW WEEKS NOW AND JUST UNDER ADVISEMENT, IT, IT, TO ME IT DEVALUES THE PROPERTY. IF I WAS A REAL ESTATE PERSON, I WOULD TAKE SOMEONE TO A C THREE PROPERTY BEFORE I WOULD A C TWO PROPERTY. JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE MORE ABILITIES TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS. BUT ALWAYS KNOWING THAT [04:55:01] COUNCIL PLANNING ZONING, YOU GUYS HAVE THE ULTIMATE SAY IN MY, IN MY VIEW, UH, IN MY EXPERIENCES. UH, SO I I I THINK THAT, UH, C THREE IS WHAT WE'D LIKE AND UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'D BE WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU IF WE COULD GET A C THREE RATING. THANK YOU. YES SIR. NO MORE COMMENTS FROM ME. THANKS. ALRIGHT. IS THERE A MOTION? SO, OKAY, SORRY. SO I ACTUALLY, I DO RECOGNIZE THE STAFF RECOMMENDING DENIAL, BUT I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS CHANGE. UM, I DO THINK THAT THIS IS CURRENTLY WRONGFULLY ZONED, SO I DO SEE THIS COMPARING TO THE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO YOU AND AROUND YOU THAT DOES FIT THE C THREE AND I DO SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, SO, UH, I'M GONNA INTERPRET THAT AS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED OF ITEM 14. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALRIGHT. THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 14 AS SUBMITTED BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON. UH, DISCUSSION COMMERS TO MY LEFT COMMISSIONER TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ACTUALLY, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I'LL WAIT TILL COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THIS IS, THIS IS THE COMMENT. OH, SORRY. I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY QUESTIONS. SO, UM, ACTUALLY JUST AS A REALTOR, I JUST WANTED TO JUST GO ON RECORD AND SAY IF MY CLIENT'S LOOKING FOR A PARTICULAR PROPERTY, I WOULD TAKE THEM TO EITHER A C THREE OR C TWO. DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT IS, I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY RULE IT OUT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UH, MY COMMENT IS, I WAS JUST HAPPY TO THINK ABOUT THE SILVER FOX AGAIN, , BUT, UM, ALRIGHT. THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED OF ITEM 14 BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. OH, I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH. GOOD LUCK TO YOU. HAVE A GREAT EVENING. YOU AS WELL. THANK YOU AGAIN. GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 16. WE ARE IN THE TAIL END. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. AKA ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. I NUMBER 16 IS LOCATED AT 1 1 2 TO 1 1 2 PARK ROW GOING FROM R SIX TO M F 18 WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME. THERE WERE 43 NOTICES SENT OUT. ZERO IN FAVOR TO OPPOSE NO RESPONSE FROM LONE STAR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE EXISTING R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED MF 18 LIMITED DENSITY MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR UP TO FOUR UNITS ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH INTRODUCES TOO MUCH DENSITY TO A SINGLE FAMILY ZONE AND DEVELOPED AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. VERY GOOD. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF, GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US WHY YOU'RE REQUESTING REZONING. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DAVID GOLDEN. UM, REQUESTING A REZONING FOR, UM, CONSTRUCTING A FOURPLEX ON THE LOT. WE SHOULD HAVE BRIBED MR. WEIR WITH SOME FOOD FROM LONGHORN. IN MY OPINION, PRETTY MUCH AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. UM, I WANTED TO POINT OUT IN SLIDE NUMBER ONE, THE PROPERTY IS IN THE DURANGO NEIGHBORHOOD ACCORDING TO, UM, THE BRAD COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT, UM, I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THERE ARE OTHER MULTI-FAMILY, UM, PROPERTIES IN THE AREA. UM, THIS STREET HERE, LUBBOCK, AS WELL AS EAST BAYLOR, THOSE TWO ARE IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD, WHETHER THEY'RE ACROSS THE WAY OR NOT, THEY'RE IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD ACCORDING TO THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT. UM, ALTHOUGH THEY'RE NOT WITHIN 200 FEET. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SOME, UH, ONE-OFFS COMMERCIAL, UH, ZONING HERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL. UM, SLIDE TWO. THIS IS THE PLAN FROM SA 2020. UM, PUT THAT UP [05:00:01] HERE TO REALLY POINT OUT JUST A GOAL HERE IS INCREASED THE NUMBER OF GREATER DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS BY 15%. UM, WHILE THAT'S NOT ON TRACK, THE PROPOSAL OF ZONING CHANGE WOULD DRIVE THE POPULATION DUE TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. UM, UM, I THINK WE WENT ONE TWO AHEAD. SORRY. THAT'S THE, UH, POPULATION. POPULATION, YEP. THANK YOU. UM, SO FOR THE POPULATION, UM, THE EMPLOYMENT DOWNTOWN, UH, WE, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF SERVICE WORKERS THAT CATER TO 34 MILLION VISITORS ANNUALLY. AND THIS WOULD ALSO PROMOTE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. LEMME GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. AND, UM, MORE PEOPLE DOWNTOWN. MY THEORY IS MORE PEOPLE DOWNTOWN WILL, YOU'LL HAVE MORE ECONOMIC IMPACT AND THAT'S ALSO ALIGNED WITH THE FUTURE VISION OF SA 2020. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THERE WE GO. UM, SO THE LONE STAR DISTRICT, ACCORDING TO THIS MAP THAT I'VE PULLED OFF OF THE SAN ANTONIO REPORT, IT REALLY SHOWS THAT LONE STAR DISTRICT IS PRETTY MUCH HALF, TAKES UP HALF OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA. UM, I I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE, UM, STATISTICS I PULLED FROM REDFIN, IT LOOKS LIKE THE MEDIAN LISTING PRICE IS AT 302,000 CURRENTLY, WHICH IS THE EQUIVALENT, YOU KNOW, WITH INSURANCE AND TAXES OF 2200, UM, PER MONTH FOR THAT TYPE OF, UH, HOUSING. THE CENSUS BUREAU HAS A MEDIAN INCOME OF 52,000 FOR SAN ANTONIO WITH 17% OF THOSE BEING IN POVERTY. UM, THIS, MY, MY POINT HERE IS THAT IT WOULD BE REALLY DIFFICULT FOR SOMEONE WITH THAT INCOME TO EVEN BECOME ELIGIBLE FOR THAT PRICE RANGE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THIS STRUCTURE OF, OF FOURPLEX WOULD AFFORD, UM, PEOPLE THAT LIVE DOWNTOWN AND WORK DOWNTOWN, UM, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AVAILABLE TO THEM. UM, AND THEN MY LAST POINT ON THAT IS, YOU KNOW, IF, IF HALF OF DOWNTOWN IS ALREADY NOT AFFORDABLE AND THAT THAT'S ESSENTIALLY GONNA RESULT IN UNDESIRABLE AREAS, WHICH JUST NOT PART OF THE PLANT OR SIMPLY JUST SEGREGATION. AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. UM, MY LAST SLIDE HERE, IT SHOWS THAT THE LONE STAR BREWERY WILL EVENTUALLY BE BUILT OUT TO KIND OF RESONATE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PRO BREWERY HAS DONE, UM, PEOPLE WILL WANT TO LIVE CLOSE BY. UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME, PROBABLY SOME RESIDENCES BUILT HERE AT THE UH, LONE STAR BREWERY, WHICH MOST LIKELY WON'T BE AFFORDABLE AS WE HAVE SEEN AT THE UH, PEARL BREWERY. BUT PEOPLE WILL STILL WANT TO, UH, LIVE NEARBY. THESE ARE THE NOTES THAT I HAD DOWNLOADED FROM MY PACKET FROM THE, UH, PLANNING TEAM. JUST WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MINUTE TO GO OVER THEM. UH, GOAL SIX, BROADEN THE DIVERSITY OF HOUSING OPTIONS THROUGHOUT THE DOWNTOWN CORE IN ITS NEIGHBORHOODS. UM, WE WANNA PROVIDE A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES, BOTH OWNER AND RENTER OCCUPIED THAT ARE AFFORDABLE FOR PEOPLE AT ALL STAGES OF LIFE AND FOR A RANGE OF INCOME LEVELS. EMPHASIZE THE DEVELOPMENT OF MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING FOR BOTH RENTERS AND OWNERS. ENSURE DOWNTOWN IS A LIVABLE PLACE FOR FAMILIES, CHILDREN, STUDENTS, THE ELDERLY AND OTHERS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE GROWTH AND CITY FORMS SUPPORT, IMPROVE LIVABILITY IN EXISTING AND FUTURE NEIGHBORHOODS. A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES, SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED MULTI-FAMILY, AS WELL AS OWNERSHIP AND RENTAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE AT A VARIETY OF PRICE AND RENT LEVELS. ENFIELD DEVELOPMENT, REVITALIZE NEIGHBORHOODS PROVIDE A RANGE OF HOUSING CHOICES NEAR THE CITY CENTER. UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE TRACK SIZE IS 0.22 ACRES, ALMOST A QUARTER ACRE, WHICH IS SUFFICIENT TO ACCOMMODATE THE PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY USE AND DEVELOPMENT. UH, WITH THAT I'D LIKE TO CONCLUDE THAT, UM, IT'S EVIDENT. DIVISION I HAVE IS IN LINE WITH THE S 2020 PLAN AND THERE ARE ONLY SO MANY LOTS LEFT TO BUILD ON AND FOR ENCOURAGING GROWTH AND INVESTMENT IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. IT ONLY MAKES SENSE TO UTILIZE THE LAND AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOT BE MARRIED TO A SITE PLAN AS I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF PROJECTS AHEAD OF THIS ONE AND CAN'T COMMIT TO HAVING THAT DONE [05:05:01] AT THIS TIME. AND THAT IS PRETTY MUCH IT. SORRY, I'M STARVING. IT'S BEEN A VERY LONG DAY. I DID NOT ANTICIPATE ON BEING HERE THAT LONG, BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU MR. GOLDEN. SURE. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM IF THERE'S STILL HERE? UH, SALVADOR AL, AL ALTO AND RUBEN HERNANDEZ AND THEY'RE BOTH AGAINST MR. HERNANDEZ. OKAY. THEY DIDN'T HOLD THE LIGHT. Y'ALL WOULD SPEAK UP IF YOU WERE ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE OR HERE FOR THIS ITEM. I THINK WE LOST THEM. VERY GOOD. PERFECT. UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE. UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SO I'M GONNA OPEN TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS. UH, I CAN, I, UH, COMMISSIONER WATSON, I ONLY HAVE ONE FOR STAFF. HOW MANY TOTAL UNITS WITH THIS ACREAGE ARE GONNA BE ALLOWED IN M F 18? CAN YOU JUST CONFIRM FOUR? YEAH. OKAY. TO MY RIGHT. QUESTIONS? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES. UH, THE QUESTION FOR STAFF, SO I I, I NOTICED THAT R SIX CD WAS, WAS RECOMMENDED AS THE ALTERNATE I, WAS IT AN RM DESIGNATION CONSIDERED AS WELL OR WOULD THAT OFFER ANY BENEFIT OR RATHER THAN MAKING A CD? UH, NO SIR. WE DIDN'T, UH, REALLY LOOK AT IT. WE JUST TOOK WHAT HE ASKED FOR THE M F 18 AND THEN WE LOOK AT IN GENERAL AT WHAT THE PATTERN IS THERE AND IT'S A LOT OF R FOUR AND R SIX AND TRY TO STAY CONSISTENT WITH THAT. MAY, MAY I INTERJECT. OKAY. DID YOU WANT TO THE APPLICANT TO ADDRESS THAT? OH YEAH, YEAH, IF YOU, SO I INITIALLY ASKED FOR RM, UM, BUT THE INDIVIDUAL THAT CALLED ME TO SET UP MY CASE BEFORE THE CASE MANAGER HAD RECOMMENDED UH, THE M F 18 INSTEAD, I DON'T KNOW THE RATIONALE BEHIND IT. OKAY. THANKS. SURE. ALRIGHT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? TO MY RIGHT COMMISSIONER? UH, MCDANIEL. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. UM, ALL RIGHT. GIVEN THE LOCATION OF THIS LOT, GIVEN ITS ORIENTATION THAT IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF A VERY CLEAR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY USE AND SURROUNDED BY IT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE I KNOW YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T WANNA DO A SITE PLAN, BUT IT WOULD'VE BEEN REALLY HELPFUL. AN I D Z I THINK WOULD'VE BEEN APPROPRIATE HERE. THERE ARE SOME ISSUES WITH THE LOCATION THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, COULD HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE HAD WE BEEN ABLE TO LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN AND BE ABLE TO JUSTIFY THAT USE AS A RESULT. I'M GOING TO MOVE FOR DENIAL OF ITEM NUMBER 16 IN LIGHT OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND THE ITEMS I JUST MENTIONED. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. ALRIGHT, THERE IS A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ALRIGHT, UH, THE MOTION IS FOR DENIAL BY ME FOR ITEM NUMBER 16 WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. CHAIR BUSTAMONTE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? UH, YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? AYE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR DENIAL. MR. GOLDEN, I'M SORRY. GOOD LUCK TO YOU. UM, TAKE CARE. I ALSO, MR. GOLDEN, I WANNA ENCOURAGE AND I ENCOURAGE ALL APPLICANTS CONTACT YOUR COMMISSIONER WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THIS. I DON'T THINK WE HAD THE CHANCE TO SPEAK, BUT WE DID SPEAK LAST YEAR, SIR. WE DID? YES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 17. LAST JIM. ALL RIGHT. UH, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS REBECCA RODRIGUEZ. I'M A PLANNER WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. ITEM NUMBER 17 LOCATED AT 9 1 7 NOLAN STREET IS A REQUEST FOR CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY TO I D Z ONE LIMITED INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR ONE DWELLING UNIT AND C ONE LIGHT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. THERE WERE 28 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED NO RESPONSE FROM NUITY HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ONE IN FAVOR OUTSIDE 200 FEET AND THE CONCERNED CITIZENS OF DINU HILL ARE OPPOSED. THE EXISTING R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED I D Z ONE LIMITED IN 10 CITY AND FILLED DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR ONE DWELLING UNIT AND C ONE LIKE [05:10:01] COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS ALSO APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY. THE PROPOSAL FOR THIS PROPERTY IS TO INTEGRATE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES WHILE STILL LIMITING THE INTENSITY OF COMMERCIAL USES PERMITTED IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. I D Z ONE ZONING DISTRICTS HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED IN THE AREA, THUS THE REQUEST DOESN'T APPEAR OUT OF CHARACTER FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA STAFF, EXCUSE ME. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, IF THE APPLICANT'S PRESENT, PLEASE COME UP, INTRODUCE YOURSELF, GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US ABOUT THE REZONING REQUEST. YES, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS SHA UDDI. I AM THE OWNER OF THE 9 1 7 NOLAN STREET. UH, MY PROPOSAL WAS TO OPEN A COFFEE SHOP ON THE BOTTOM AND THE, UH, RESIDENTIAL TWO BEDROOM APARTMENT IN THE TOP. AND, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING BUILT IN 1935 THAT NOBODY I THINK, DONE ANYTHING TO THIS PROPERTY FOR LAST 50 YEARS. THERE IS NO BASICALLY ANY PLUMBING OR ANY ELECTRICAL OR ANYTHING WHATSOEVER. AND THERE IS SOME ADDITION, I THINK THEY DID ON THAT PROPERTY THAT, UH, LOOKS LIKE, LIKE A SEVEN FOOT, UM, BASICALLY ROOFTOP. AND, UM, SO MY PROPOSAL WAS TO BASICALLY BUILD MY COFFEE SHOP AND RESIDENTIAL TWO BEDROOM APARTMENT IN THE TOP. I HAVE A LITTLE SITE PLAN AND WHICH BASICALLY IN THE, THE AREA THAT I LIKE TO REMOVE IT, IT'S SOMETHING LIKE A BEDROOM OR SOMETHING THEY BUILT, WHICH I DON'T THINK IT WAS PART OF THE BUILDING THAT I LIKE TO REMOVE IT AND BUILD THE REST OF IT AS A FIRST FLOOR. AND YOU HAVE THIS PICTURE I GIVE IT TO THEM. WELL, I JUST LIKE TO SHOW THE FIRST FLOOR AND SECOND FLOOR AND I BUILD, THAT WOULD BE LIKE A CAN WE GET THE CAMERA ON PLEASE? I'M NOT SEEING IT. AM I, AM I ON THE WRONG CA I'M ON THE WRONG ONE. YEAH, BASICALLY THIS IS GONNA BE THE SECOND FLOOR, LIKE A TWO BEDROOM APARTMENT WITH THE THREE BATHROOM AND THE KITCHEN AND THE DECKING IN THE TOP. AS A RESIDENTIAL, MY RESIDENCE ACTUALLY AND THE BOTTOM FLOOR IS GONNA BE LIKE A OPEN SPACE. BASICALLY THE SAME LOOK IT IS, UM, FOR MY COMMERCIAL USE AS A COFFEE SHOP, INTERNET CAFE. UM, AND I THINK IT'S GONNA BE BEAUTIFUL . ALRIGHT, BRING UP. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU MR. MUNI. UHHUH . UM, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? YES SIR. WE HAVE A VOICEMAIL AND WE ALSO HAVE, UH, SOME PUBLIC COMMENT. ANGELA HAMILTON. MS. HAMILTON, ARE YOU PRESENT? UM, JUST STEP BACK FOR A SECOND, YOU'LL HAVE A CHANCE FOR A BRIEF REBUTTAL. HI, UH, I GUESS GOOD EVENING. I AM, UM, ANGELA HAMILTON. I RESIDE AT 8 24 NOLAN, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 700 FEET FROM THIS, UM, LOCATION. THAT'S UP FOR DISCUSSION. WHAT A LONG DAY IT'S BEEN. UM, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME AT A ZONING COMMITTEE AND I'VE, I'VE KIND OF SEEN A LOT OF THE SAME ISSUES COMING UP OF NEIGHBORS NOT WANTING, UM, DEVELOPMENT IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THIS COFFEE SHOP. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A COFFEE SHOP WHERE I CAN WALK TO AND PICK UP A PASTRY EVERY MORNING. I WORK FROM HOME. IT WOULD BE FANTASTIC. WHAT I'M OPPOSED TO IS THE TYPE OF ZONING THAT IT IS THE I D Z ZONING. I THINK THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES. THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES AVAILABLE THAT WILL MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS MAN'S BUSINESS, UM, AND WILL SATISFY THE NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE TO LIVE. UM, NOT HAVE TO, BUT WANT TO LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. I GREW UP DOWNTOWN. I GREW UP IN MONTE VISTA. IT'S A HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOOD AS THIS IS, I'VE SEEN DEVELOPMENT HAPPEN IN TOBIN HILLS. I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT SOME OF IT. I LOVE SOME OF IT. UM, I PICKED DIGNA WITTY BECAUSE IT IS HISTORICAL BECAUSE I LOVE THAT ASPECT. I PICKED DIGNA WITTY BECAUSE IT'S DOWNTOWN. [05:15:01] IT'S CLOSE ENOUGH TO DOWNTOWN TO DO ALL THE THINGS THAT I LIKE TO DO DOWNTOWN, BUT IT'S FAR ENOUGH AWAY WHERE IT'S QUIET AND I CAN GET MY PEACEFUL NIGHT'S SLEEP 'CAUSE THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME. . UM, SO I, I DO HAVE CONCERNS BECAUSE AS THE GENTLEMAN SAID BEFORE, EVERYTHING IS UP FOR SALE. SO IF THIS BUSINESS DOESN'T WORK OUT, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, HE DECIDES TO MOVE AND HE CAN SELL IT. I D Z, IT'S A FREE FOR ALL, WHICH I FIND IRONIC CONSIDERING MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR'S HOUSES FOR SALE. SOMEBODY A FLIPPER BOUGHT IT. UM, AND HE'S RUNNING INTO SO MANY HURDLES FROM THE HISTORIC DISTRICT BECAUSE HE CAN'T PUT UP A WINDOW AND HE CAN'T PUT UP A DOOR. AND SO THIS HOUSE HAS BEEN SITTING THERE FOR A YEAR AND THIS MAN WHO WANTS TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY BETTER AND, UM, IMPROVE THE THE HOME AND, AND HAVE ANOTHER FAMILY MOVE IN IS HITTING OBSTACLES. YET ON THE OTHER SIDE WE'RE LOOKING AT, OH, LET'S GIVE SOMEBODY AN I D Z AND YOU CAN BUILD WHAT YOU WANT OR THERE AREN'T AS AS MANY LIMITATIONS AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. IT'S, IT'S KIND OF WE'RE CHERRY PICKING WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. UM, AGAIN, I KNOW MY TIME IS IS RUNNING SHORT. UH, WHAT I WOULD LIKE HONESTLY IS A CONTINUANCE ON THIS. THERE ARE A LOT OF NEIGHBORS THAT ARE CONCERNED. SOME OF THEM JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS. I ONLY FOUND OUT THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA AND I'M ON ALL THE TIME. UM, SO THERE ARE A LOT OF OLDER RESIDENTS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DON'T KNOW THERE'S A SENIOR, THERE'S A NURSING HOME NEXT DOOR TO THIS ESTABLISHMENT, UM, THAT IS GONNA BE AFFECTED BY THIS AND MAYBE THE OWNER OF THAT ESTABLISHMENT IS OKAY WITH IT. THE SENIORS LIVING THERE PROBABLY AREN'T AND PROBABLY DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS. SO I'D REALLY LIKE A CONTINUANCE SO THE NEIGHBORS CAN GET INVOLVED. UM, PROGRESS IS, UH, IS A COMMUNITY EFFORT AND I JUST ASK THAT WE GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME SO THE COMMUNITY CAN BE INVOLVED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MS. HAMILTON. JENNIFER NAGER, I HAVE TO USE THE RESTROOM. HI. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY. UM, MY NAME IS JENNIFER NAGER. I LIVE AT SEVEN 14 NORTH PINE STREET. MY PROPERTY IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO NINE 17 NOLAN ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE. IT APPEARS TODAY THAT NONE OF US LIKE CHANGE AND NONE OF US LIKE BUSINESSES INFRINGING ON OUR PERSONAL PRIVATE RESIDENCE. AND MOST OF OUR ADDITIONAL CONCERNS ARE REGARDING WHAT COULD HAPPEN AFTER ONE ZONING CHANGE. NOT JUST FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN DURING MR. MR. MA MOODY'S, MA MOODY'S TIME HERE, BUT AFTER HIS TIME HERE AND FUTURE CONTINUED ZONING CHANGES WITHIN OUR HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS APPEARS TO BE THE CRY OUT OF OPPOSITION IN MOST EVERY SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCE PRESENTED HERE TODAY. UM, MY ADDRESS IS MOST DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY WHAT COULD EVOLVE HERE. WHY I AM OPPOSED ADDITIONALLY IS FOR THE ELIMINATION OF MY PERSONAL RESIDENTIAL PRIVACY WITH NOISE POLLUTION, LIGHT POLLUTION, EVERYTHING WE'VE ALL HEARD HERE IN MANY CASES TODAY INTO MY PRIVATE BACKYARD AND A PLETHORA OF THINGS WHICH I'M SURE THAT YOU WOULD ALL FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT IF THIS WERE COMING INTO YOUR PRIVATE BACKYARD. I'VE SEEN FIRSTHAND IN MY OWN COMMERCIAL BUILDING A TENANT COFFEE SHOP THAT WAS STRUGGLING AND HAD TO RESORT TO OTHER USES OTHER THAN WHAT THEY ORIGINALLY INTENDED IT FOR. IN MR M MOODY'S CASE, A SMALL INTERNET CAFE IN THIS PARTICULAR, UM, TENANT OF MINE, HE HAD TO RESORT TO MANY OUTDOOR SPACE USES INCLUDING FOOD TRUCKS, RENTING OUT SPACES FOR PARTIES TO OTHER PEOPLE WITH LOUD MUSIC, PROFANE MUSIC, WHICH AS A LANDLORD I CAN CONTROL IN MY BUILDING. BUT WITH MR. MA MOODY'S, I'M NOT HIS LANDLORD AND DON'T HAVE THAT ABILITY. I DON'T WANT MY BACKYARD TO BECOME THE FRIENDLY SPOT EITHER OR WHO KNOWS WHAT IT COULD BECOME IF HE SELLS THE PROPERTY OR IS UNFORTUNATELY NOT SUCCESSFUL. WE ALREADY HAVE PARKING ISSUES. THERE IS NO PARKING. THEREFORE THIS WOULD ALSO AFFECT MY FRONT YARD PRIVACY WITH PEOPLE HAVING TO PARK IN THE FRONT OF MY HOUSE. I DON'T WANT A PARKING LOT IN MY BACKYARD EITHER, WHICH HE ALSO HAS ROOM TO DO. IT'S LIKE POLLUTION WOULD COME THROUGH MY BEDROOM WINDOWS AND THROUGHOUT THE BEDROOM WINDOWS OF OUR HOUSE, NOR I'M SURE DO THE ELDERLY IN THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY ON THE OTHER SIDE THAT DON'T HAVE A VOICE HERE TODAY. I AM SURE QUIET ENJOYMENT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO KEEP NOISE AND LIGHT POLLUTION ARE NOT AND UH, WOULD BE A GREAT CONCERN TO THEM AS WELL. AGAIN, UM, AS THE LADY BEFORE WE MENTIONED, OUR BIGGEST CONCERN IS ZONING. UM, AND HONESTLY THIS SAYS I D Z ALTHOUGH IT'S PROPOSED TO BE A COFFEE SHOP, IF IT DOESN'T WORK OUT, THE ZONING WOULD ALREADY BE IN PLACE FOR ANOTHER OPPORTUNIST TO COME IN AND BUILD A ROW OF TRACK HOMES. I'M ASKING THE COMMISSION WHAT IS YOUR, UM, COMPROMISE THAT YOU MIGHT HELP GIVE US SOME ADVICE. UM, AT THE LAST HEARING, IT WAS UH, POSTPONED, UM, AS A COMMISSION ASKED US TO REACH ACROSS THE AISLE DIRECTOR WITH MR. TI AND FIND SOME COMMON GROUND. WE DID THAT AND UH, COMMISSIONER WATSON WAS PRESENT ON THAT CALL. UM, WE HAVE COME TO SOME AGREEMENTS BUT STIPULATIONS, UM, AND AGAIN, THESE ARE ONLY WORDS COMING FROM MR. MODI WITH NO DISRESPECT TO HIM. WE ALL KNOW THAT LIFE CHANGES [05:20:01] AND BUSINESS CHANGES. UM, WE'RE ASKING IF THE COMMISSIONERS CAN JOIN US TO FIND ANOTHER SOLUTION THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ZONING THIS AS I D Z AND HELP US AS OPPOSED NEIGHBORS. PREVENT THIS FROM MORPHING INTO SOMETHING OTHER THAN MR. MODI'S CURRENT BUSINESS PLAN. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, MR. MDI, IS THERE ANY SORRY, THERE'S FURTHER THE VOICEMAIL. ONE ONE MORE VOICEMAIL. YES, I'M SORRY, THE VOICEMAIL. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS LULU FRANCOIS. I LIVE AT 8 1 7 NOLAN AND I'M CALLING ON IN ON BEHALF OF, UH, ZONING CASE Z 2022 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 0 0 5 9 17. NOLAN, I'M CALLING IN ON BEHALF OF THE CONCERNED CITIZENS OF DIGNITY HILL AND WE ARE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ZONING CASE, ESPECIALLY THE I D D ZONING PORTION OF THIS REQUEST. I D D AND EVERYTHING THAT IS ALLOWED TO BE BUILT WITH AN I D D DESIGNATION DO NOT BELONG IN A NEIGHBORHOOD FILLED WITH HOUSES. WE ARE NOT DOWNTOWN. WE ARE A NEIGHBORHOOD CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN AND MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD. WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE SOME CONDITIONAL USES PUT IN PLACE TO GUARANTEE THAT THIS LOCATION IS USED AS A COFFEE SHOP ONLY THOUGH THE PROPERTY FACES NOLAN STREET AND SITS BETWEEN A NURSING HOME AND A BODY SHOP, THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY BACKS UP AGAINST RESIDENTIAL HOUSES. IT IS ALSO VERY CLOSE TO ADDITIONAL HOUSES THAT SIT JUST TO HALF A BLOCK AWAY FROM IT ON THE EAST OR WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. IN FACT, IF YOU WOULD JUST CHANGE THE OVAL OF THE 200 FOOT BOUNDARY ABOUT 180 DEGREES, THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF OTHER PROPERTIES THAT WOULD, THAT THIS WOULD AFFECT. PLEASE REVIEW THE BIRD'S EYE VIEW OF THIS PROPERTY INCLUDED IN OUR EMAIL TO YOU TO FULLY UNDERSTAND JUST HOW SURROUNDED IT IS BY PRIVATE RESIDENCES. THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF CONFUSION AS TO WHY THE ZONING CASE HAS NOT BEEN CONTINUED SINCE THE C ONE LIKE COMMERCIAL ZONING CASE THAT WAS HEARD IN THE FEBRUARY FEBRUARY 8TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR THIS SAME PROPERTY WAS CONTINUED UNTIL MARCH THE 23RD. IF ANYTHING, THIS ENTIRE CASE SHOULD NOT BE HEARD IN TODAY'S ZONING CASE UNTIL AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION ZONING CASE IS HEARD ON MARCH THE 23RD. IN ADDITION, A VIRTUAL MEETING WAS HELD WITH MR. MOUNT MOODY AND SEVERAL RESIDENTS OF DIGNITY WITTY HILL ON FEBRUARY THE NINTH. WE LEFT THE MEETING WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT A MEETING WAS GOING TO BE HELD BETWEEN THE D TWO CITY COUNCIL ZONING DIRECTOR AND THE D TWO ZONING COMMISSIONER ON FEBRUARY THE 11TH AND THAT THE ZONING CASE WOULD BE DISCUSSED. WE HAVE NOT HEARD BACK FROM ANYONE SINCE OUR CALL S WEDNESDAY, WHICH IS ANOTHER REASON WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE ON THIS ZONING CASE. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE, SIR. ALRIGHT. AND I COULD OFFER SOME CLARIFICATIONS ON THE I D Z IF YOU'D LIKE. NOT YET, BUT WE'LL GET THERE. MR. UDDI, UH, TO YOU SIR, FOR A BRIEF REBUTTAL. WELL, I HAD TWO MEETING BASICALLY WITH UH, MS. LULU AND OTHER PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERN, WHICH THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT. UH, THE FACT THAT I D Z, UH, YOU CAN BUILD IN THE PROPERTY LINE, YOU CAN BASICALLY DO ALL KINDS OF STUFF. YOU KNOW, THEY PROBABLY IN THE PAST THEY GIVE IT I D Z TO THE CROSS STREET AND THEY CHANGE FROM THE TATTOO SHOP TO THE GUN. YOU KNOW, I NEVER EVEN HAD A GUN. I NEVER EVEN HOLD A GUN. AND THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE CHANGING IT AFTER I DIE OR AFTER I, YOU KNOW, GIVE IT TO MY KIDS OR SOMETHING, WHICH IN THIS CASE I DON'T INTEND TO SELL IT OR, YOU KNOW, USE ANYTHING ELSE. I OWN A RESTAURANT, UH, SPA, BEAUTY SALON AND THE COFFEE SHOP. IT WAS SOMETHING THAT I ALWAYS WANT TO HAVE IT AND TO HA TO LIVE IN THE, YOU KNOW, FOR MY RETIREMENT. AND IT'S NOT FOR ANYTHING ELSE. YOU CAN BASICALLY PUT THE AMENDMENT TO. IT'S FOR COFFEE SHOP ONLY, SO THERE IS NO CONCERN. THERE IS NOT GONNA BE ANY BIG PARTY OR, UM, YOU KNOW, LOUD MUSIC THAT YOU KNOW, BASICALLY IT'S GONNA BE FROM SIX, SEVEN O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING UNTIL EIGHT, NINE O'CLOCK, MAYBE EVEN SOONER CLOSE AND GO ON THE BUSINESS. AND, UM, SO MOST OF THE CONCERN I HEARD, IT'S TOTALLY, IT'S HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS BUILDING. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. MAHDI. YES. UM, STAFF SINCE YOU'VE VOLUNTEERED, UM, NO, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M GONNA LET COMMISSIONER WATSON GO . UH, I AM GOING TO START WITH A SERIES OF QUESTIONS FOR STAFF THAT I THINK ARE PROBABLY THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE GONNA BRING UP. CHRISTIE. UM, COULD YOU PLEASE CLARIFY IF THE CURRENT, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR I D Z WITH MR. MC MOODY'S APPLICATION, THE SPECIFIC USES [05:25:01] THAT ARE TIED TO IT, CAN YOU PLEASE OUTLINE THE CONDI? LIKE TO WHAT EXTENT THOSE CONDITIONS WILL CONTINUE WITH THE PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE? RIGHT, SO IF THIS GOES TO THE FINAL STAGES, IT GETS APPROVED FOR I D Z ONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR ONE DWELLING UNIT AND C ONE LIGHT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. THAT IS ALL THAT IT IS APPROVED FOR. AND THE C ONE LIGHT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT REQUIRES THAT ALL ACTIVITIES, WHETHER IT'S A CAFE OR NOT, BE COMPLETELY ENCLOSED IN THE BUILDING, THERE CAN BE NO EXTERNAL SOUND SYSTEMS AND THERE CAN BE NO OUTSIDE STORAGE. SO THOSE ARE ALREADY PART OF THE C ONE, UH, DISTRICT. AND THEN THE ONLY, THE ONE RESIDENTIAL UNIT, BECAUSE THAT'S ALL THAT HE'S CALLING OUT IN THIS REQUEST. ADDITIONALLY, THE FOOTPRINT THAT HE HAS PUT IN THIS SITE PLAN FOR 26 0 5 SQUARE FEET, UM, SO 2,605 SQUARE FEET IS THE MAXIMUM FOOTPRINT HE'S GONNA GET AS PART OF THIS REQUEST. IF HE WANTS TO EXPAND THE FOOTPRINT, HE WILL HAVE TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR ANOTHER I D Z REQUEST OR AMEND HIS REQUEST. THANK YOU FOR THE BENEFIT OF, UM, THOSE WHO HAVE COME TO SPEAK. COULD YOU PLEASE JUST REMIND US WHAT OTHER PERMISSIVE USES MIGHT BE PERMITTED IN C ONE? IT'S GOING TO BE YOUR LIGHT COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES, SO YOU COULD HAVE MAYBE A LITTLE DELI OR BAKERY FOOD SERVICE. UM, YOU COULD HAVE IT, IT, IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME THINGS THAT THE COMMERCIAL, UH, DISTRICTS HAVE EXCEPT TO A SMALLER SCALE. AND THEN IN THIS PARTICULAR, UH, INSTANCE, THE SCALE IS LIMITED TO THE SITE PLAN. SO EVEN THOUGH YOU GET C ONE USES, UH, TO A SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 5,000 SQUARE FEET, HE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT HERE BECAUSE HE IS CALLING OUT HIS 2,600 SQUARE FEET. THANK YOU. UM, THE OTHER QUESTION I WOULD ASK IS, IS THERE ANY REAL BENEFIT GAIN FROM LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT IT WOULD BE AN ALTERNATIVE SUCH AS A C TWO WITH A CONDITIONAL USE C TWO AND A WITH A CONDITIONAL USE SPACE, SAME OUTCOME? CORRECT? YES, YOU WOULD. UM, AND THE, THE SITE PLAN IS KEY AND BOTH OF THOSE HAVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE SITE PLAN. SO, UM, AND I THINK ACTUALLY THE I D Z IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE IS MORE LIMITING. LIMITING BECAUSE OF THE, IT'S LIMITING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE. THANK YOU, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT, UH, WOULD YOU MIND COMING UP, UH, COULD YOU PLEASE CONFIRM, UM, WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE FOR ANY POTENTIAL ADDITIONAL PARKING IN THE BACK? UM, I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE FEBRUARY 9TH MEETING AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD ENTERTAIN MAKING AN ADJUSTMENT ON YOUR SITE PLAN FOR? WELL, THE, THERE, THERE IS LIKE FOUR OR FIVE PARKING IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, YOU COULD HAVE SOME PARKING IN THE BACK, WHICH I DIDN'T WANT TO NECESSARILY, UM, GO FOR IT. AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR THE LIMITATION AS FAR AS THE PARKING. AND BASICALLY I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE I D Z WHEN I WENT FOR REZONING. I SAID I WANT TO BUILD MY COFFEE SHOP AND THE RESIDENTIAL IN THE TOP AND THEY SAID THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO GO FOR I D Z AND THE C ONE FOR MY, YOU KNOW, COFFEE SHOP. AND, BUT AS FAR AS A BUILDING, I MEAN THE, THE LOT SIZE, YOU CAN PROBABLY ADD SOME PARKING IN THE BACK I WAS THINKING, BUT MAYBE JUST STAFF MAYBE USING IT BECAUSE THERE IS LIKE A 15 FEET OR 14 FEET, UH, NEXT TO THE BUILDING THERE IS A GATE THAT YOU CAN GO TO THE BACK AND BASICALLY PARK IF YOU WANT TO, BUT THAT DIDN'T NECESSARILY WANT TO USE THAT. AS FAR AS THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING, I'M REQUESTING BASICALLY AROUND 4,000 SQUARE FEET BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE LIKE A MAYBE 2000 SOME SQUARE FEET IN THE BOTTOM AND IT'S GONNA BE LIKE A ALMOST 2000 SQUARE FEET IN THE TOP. IF I JUST LIMIT IT TO 2,600 SQUARE FEET, UM, I'M NOT GONNA HAVE MY BUILDING UP THERE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GONNA LIVE IN THE 500 SQUARE FEET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO, AND FROM, UM, THE UPSTAIRS RESIDENTIAL UNIT YOU HAVE PLANNED IS IN FACT A SINGLE UNIT, CORRECT? YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. JUST, JUST TWO BEDROOM APART FOR MYSELF. THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH COMMISSIONER WATSON. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? TO MY LEFT COMMISSIONER TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER SIPES, UH, QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, UH, CONCERN WAS RAISED ABOUT PARKING. UM, THE [05:30:01] SITE PLAN THAT I, THAT'S ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW SHOWS A, UH, WHAT APPEARS TO BE, YOU KNOW, PARKING SPACES. SO SINCE THOSE ARE, EVEN THOUGH I D Z GENERALLY EXEMPTS PARKING, BECAUSE THAT'S SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN, PARKING WOULD THEN BE PROVIDED, CORRECT? HE IS PROVIDING PARKING ON HIS SITE PLAN, YES. AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER CLARIFICATION THAT WE'LL HAVE HIM ADD TO HIS SITE PLAN IS TO BE SURE THAT IT SAYS THAT THE FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR WILL BE, UH, A TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE SO THAT HE DOESN'T GET LIMITED, UH, TO NOT BE ABLE TO BUILD HIS HOME ON, ON THE TOP LEVEL. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER SIPES, UH, COMMISSIONER HUE QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, UM, LET ME JUST REITERATE THIS THOUGH. YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FOOTPRINT AS THE SITE PLAN IS INDICATING HERE WITH 2,600 APPROXIMATELY SQUARE FEET, THAT WILL BE LIMITED CORRECT STAFF FOR THE FOOTPRINT? YES, BUT HE CAN ACTUALLY AT THE PODIUM AMEND AND, AND NOTE THAT HIS SQUARE FOOTAGE WILL BE A CERTAIN SQUARE FOOTAGE, RIGHT? SO IF HE WANTS TO DOUBLE THAT AMOUNT, SO YOU, YOU WANT TO HAVE TWO FLOORS WITH THIS 2,600 SQUARE FEET AND THAT IS NO, BASICALLY THE AREA THAT I'M GONNA ELIMINATE, IT'S GONNA BE LIKE FOUR OR 500 SQUARE FEET THAT I SHOW IN THE SIDE PLAN AND THE SAME SIZE PLUS THE BALCONY IN THE TOP, WHICH IT MAKES IT LIKE AROUND 4,000 SQUARE FEET ALL TOGETHER, BOTH STORY TOGETHER. SO WHY DON'T WE DO THIS? UH, HE DOES HAVE A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING COMING UP ON FEBRUARY THE 23RD. AND SO IF THE COMMISSION SO WANTS TO ENTERTAIN, HE COULD HAVE A CONTINUANCE ON THIS CASE AS WELL SO THAT HE CAN REVISE HIS SITE PLAN AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT FOOTPRINT MOVING FORWARD FOR THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY. I'M GONNA LEAVE THAT. IT'S JUST A SUGGESTION. IT'S UP TO THE, UP TO COMMISSIONER WATSON. UM, BUT ALRIGHT. UM, ALRIGHT, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER WATSON, DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT. UH, ANY FURTHER COMM QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER? COMMISSIONER KAMATH. SEE, I HOPE HE UNDERSTANDS THAT, UH, WITH THIS EXISTING SITE PLAN THAT YOU HAVE, IT DOES NOT SHOW 4,000 FEET. NO, THE SITE PLAN IS JUST, UH, BASICALLY FOR SHOWING THE, HOW THE BUILDING IS GONNA LOOK LIKE. BUT UH, SEE, UNLESS YOU HAVE THE CORRECT SITE PLAN, YOU CANNOT GO THROUGH THE ZONING. YOU HAVE TO AMEND IT OR YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE CORRECT SITE PLAN ON I D Z. OKAY. THAT I DIDN'T HAVE IT OR LET ME, LET ME TRY ANOTHER WAY. YEAH, IF I MAY, MR. UDDI, RIGHT NOW, THIS SITE PLAN SAYS 2,605 SQUARE FEET TOTAL. OKAY? RIGHT. IF WE GO FORWARD WITHOUT AN AMENDMENT, YOU'LL BE LIMITED TO 2,605 SQUARE FEET TOTAL, WHICH MEANS YOU DON'T HAVE A SECOND FLOOR. THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THE WAY I LOG OUT . UM, SO THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANT? NO. ALRIGHT. ABSOLUTELY NOT. VERY GOOD. ALRIGHT, I AM GOING TO NOW TURN IT OVER TO COMMISSIONER WATSON FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION. UH, WITH THAT IN MIND, TO CLARIFY FROM THE COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED TODAY AND CHRISTIE'S CONFIRMATION, WHICH I SAVED FOR DISCUSSION, THOUGH I COULD HAVE MENTIONED IT EARLIER, THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING FOR THIS IS IN FACT FEBRUARY 23RD. AND IT WAS ENCOURAGED THAT A CONTINUANCE BE REQUESTED TODAY FOR THIS CASE BECAUSE IT IS VERY POSSIBLE TO ADDRESS CONCERNS THAT CLEARLY MR. MCM MOODY WILL HAVE BECAUSE HE CANNOT EXECUTE HIS PLAN AS CURRENTLY SHOWN ON HIS SITE PLAN, UM, AND ACCOMPLISH HIS GOALS. AND THERE ARE SOME, UH, DISCREPANCIES AND CONCERNS THAT STILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED WITH THE COMMUNITY. UM, FROM ATTENDING THE RECENT ZONING MEETING ON FEBRUARY 9TH, THIS IS A KIND OF BUSINESS THAT THERE IS SOME, UH, BENEFIT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THERE IS SOME SUPPORT FOR THAT FITS TO AN EXTENT WITH THE CURRENT, UM, DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ON THE STREET. THE CURRENT EXECUTION OF THE PLAN AND THE WAY THIS IS PROPOSED, THERE IS A LOT OF CONFUSION AROUND, UM, TO CLARIFY, I D Z NOW DOES HAVE CONDITIONS TIED TO IT. THERE IS NOTHING ELSE GAINED BY ADDING A CONDITIONAL USE. WE'RE TRYING TO AMEND IT TO DO A CONDITIONAL USE. UM, I THINK FOR THE BENEFIT OF EVERYONE ACCOMPLISHING THEIR GOALS, BOTH MRM MOODY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, HAVING THEIR CONCERNS ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED, UM, THAT, UH, CONTINUANCE WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. UM, AND TO THAT END, I'M GOING TO MOVE, UH, THAT THE CASE BE CONTINUED FOR TWO WEEKS TO MARCH 1ST, UM, AND UNDERSCORE THAT, UH, WE WILL GET WITH YOU TO HAVE A MEETING, UM, BOTH THE COMMISSIONER AND THE COUNCIL OFFICE TO CLARIFY WHAT THESE ISSUES ARE AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE PREPARED FOR BOTH THE [05:35:01] PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND THE ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. ALRIGHT. THERE IS A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO MARCH 1ST BY COMMISSIONER WATSON. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND. NO. ALRIGHT. UH, GO. GONNA GO WITH COMMISSIONER KAMATH. ALRIGHT. UH, DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. UH, AGAIN, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S HAPPENING, INCLUDING YOURSELF, AND YOU GET WHAT YOU, WELL, I SENT POTENTIALLY GET WHAT YOU WANT IN THIS PROCESS, BUT YEAH, BECAUSE I SENT ALL THIS PLAN AND EVERYTHING BEGINNING, UM, I DIDN'T THINK, I MEAN, THEY, THEY SAID EVERYTHING'S FINE. I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS JUST FOR 2,600 SQUARE FEET. WE'LL, WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH IT AND MAKE SURE IT'S LINED UP PROPERLY, SO, THANK YOU MR. MDI. THE MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE TO MARCH 1ST OF ITEM NUMBER 17 BY COMMISSIONER WATSON WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KAMATH. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR ANTE. AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE. ALRIGHT. THAT'S IT. THAT'S IT FOR YOU FOR TONIGHT. WE'RE STILL HERE. UH, ALRIGHT. THE FINAL ITEM [Approval of Minutes  ] ON OUR AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER 22, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE FEBRUARY 1ST, 2022 ZONING, COMMISSION MEETING. ARE THERE ANY AMENDMENTS? CORRECTIONS, AMENDMENTS, COMMISSIONERS, HEARING NONE. THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION. A MOTION TO APPROVE? A SECOND. SECOND. THERE'S A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND. ALRIGHT. UH, THIS IS ELIGIBLE FOR ACCLIMATION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE AMENDMENTS AS SUBMITTED, SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE? AYE. THAT'S AWESOME. GOTTA WAIT. UH, ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. ALRIGHT, THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. THE TIME IS 6 54 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.