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WELCOME TO THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD.
I'M SUBSTITUTING THE, THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD IS NOT HERE THIS MORNING, BUT I'M SECOND IN COMMAND.
SO, UH, WE HAVE SUCH DISTINGUISHED GUESTS OVER HERE AT OUR TABLE TODAY.
WELCOME AND THANK YOU FOR COMING AND, UM, TO THE PEOPLE IN THE GALLERY.
ALSO, I'M SORRY, PUNCH THE BUTTON.
OH, WELL, YOU KNOW, I TALK SOFT.
OKAY, WELL, I JUST WANNA THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING AND SAY HELLO.
ALRIGHT, NOW ON WITH THE AGENDA.
COULD WE GO TO, OH, I'M SORRY.
9:10 AM AND THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD IS OPEN FOR THEIR, UH, BIANNUAL MEETING.
MAY WE GET A ROLL CALL MS. BROWN.
PRESIDENT LENCIA GUILLORY FERNANDEZ.
ALSO PRESENT IN THE MEETING FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
ERIC BURNS, S RAY SAMUEL ADAMS. AND FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
AMIN TEMAS, DEPUTY DIRECTOR JENNY RAMIREZ.
CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER, DANNY LIGA, CODE ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATOR.
ALICE GUO, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MANAGER.
WE HAVE A FOUR HOUSE THIS MORNING.
OKAY, WE HAVE, UH, SPANISH TRANSLATION SERVICES.
SPANISH TRANSLATION SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE DURING THIS MEETING.
THE MEETING IS BEING RECORDED IN SPANISH.
TRANSLATION SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE FOR APPLICANTS AND THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO RECEIVE A CALLBACK.
UH, I'M GONNA READ THE, UH, CHAIRMAN'S STATE, I'M SORRY, THE CHAIRMAN'S STATEMENT.
PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES OR ANY ADVICE THAT MAY DISRUPT THE PUBLIC.
NO PERSON SHALL DELAY OR DISRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS OR DISOBEY THE ORDER OF THE CHAIR.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON A CASE, YOU WILL HAVE TWO.
YOU'LL BE ALLOWED TWO MINUTES.
HOWEVER, AN OWNER OR OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE WILL HAVE UNLIMITED TIME.
PLEASE KEEP ALL INFORMATION RELEVANT TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION AND THE CODE VIOLATION AS ADVISED PRIOR TO THIS PUBLIC HEARING, UH, THE CITY WILL PROVIDE TRANSLATION SERVICES FOR ANYONE NEEDING ASSISTANCE.
UH, IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU HAVE MADE, UH, SUCH ARRANGEMENTS AS A, AS ADVISED IN YOUR NOTICE OF HEARING.
OUR EXPECTATION IS THAT YOU SUBMITTED, UH, THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTS PRIOR TO THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A PROPERTY OWNER OR LIEN HOLDER, EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME, PLEASE, OF A DILAPIDATED UH, STRUCTURE CASE IS, UH, TO DEMONSTRATE THE FOLLOWING.
NUMBER ONE, PROVIDE THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTS.
DISCUSS YOUR DETAILED SCOPE OF WORK WITH A COST FOR EACH ITEM OUTLINED IN THE ORDER TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE CODE OFFICER.
NUMBER TWO, SUBMIT THE REQUIRED PROOF OF FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY, UH, TO PAY FOR PROPOSED WORK AND DISCUSS FEASIBILITY OF REPAIR DEPENDENT UPON THE MONIES AT HAND REQUEST THE AMOUNT OF TIME NEEDED TO COMPLETE THE WORK.
ALL ABATEMENTS ORDERED BY THIS, UH, BY THE BOARD, SHALL BE, UH, ENFORCED.
ALL WORK PROPOSED MUST BE DONE WITHIN CODE REGULATIONS WITH, UH, REQUIRED PERMITS PRIOR TO, UM, COMMENCEMENT OF THE WORK.
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YOU MAY OBTAIN ALL PERMITS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES LOCATED 1901 SOUTH ALAMO STREET, SAN ANTONIO, 7 8 2 0 4.IF, UH, IN DOUBT AS TO THE PROCESS DURING THIS TIME, PLEASE CONTACT CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.
ANY OWNER OR LAND UH, LIEN HOLDER DISSATISFIED WITH THE ORDER OF THE BOARD MAY FILE AN APPEAL IN CIVIL DISTRICT COURT WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER THE DATE THAT THE ORDER IS MAILED.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ORDERS, PLEASE CONTACT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICE OR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF BY A MEMBER OF BY PHONE AT (210) 207-5422.
PLEASE NOTE THAT IT IS UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON PRESENT TO SOLICIT OR PEDAL SERVICES REGARDING ANY PROPERTY UNDER CONSIDERATION BY THIS BOARD DURING THE COURSE OF THIS, THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
PRIOR, UH, AS PER CITY SECTION, UH, 16 DASH 2 36.
[ Approval of Minutes ]
REVIEW OF THE MINUTES.DID EVERYONE GET A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES? MADAM CHAIR? YES.
I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? UH, DWAYNE NELSON.
NOT MARCH 10, THAT'S NOVEMBER, 1821.
RIGHT? I THINK THAT WAS OUR LAST, YEAH.
I THINK THAT WAS OUR LAST MEETING.
THE LAST FULL PANEL WAS NOVEMBER.
I'M JUST SEEING MARCH 10TH, 2022 ON THE, YES.
SO, UH, OTHER THAN THAT, UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? NO.
COULD WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MS. BROWN? AYE.
MR. GUPTE DAY? MR. GUPTE? OH, AYE.
[ Briefing and Possible Action on the following items ]
UH, NOW WE WILL HAVE STAFF REPORTS.UH, MY NAME IS JENNY RAMIREZ, A CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER WITH THE DEPARTMENT.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS TO READ INTO THE RECORD AS WELL AS ONE ITEM TO PULL FROM TODAY'S AGENDA IF I MAY PROCEED.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, UH, LISTED AS A DANGEROUS PREMISE AT ONE 18 NEW LAREDO HIGHWAY IN COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE WILL BE PULLED FROM TODAY'S AGENDA.
IT HAS BEEN RESCHEDULED, UH, TENTATIVELY FOR MAY THE 19TH.
THIS IS DONE AT THE, UH, OWNER'S, ATTORNEY'S REQUEST, UH, ITEMS TO READ INTO THE RECORD, WHICH ARE HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENTS.
THE PROPERTY OWNER LOCATED AT 2 2 4 UTAH STREET AND COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO HAS VOLUNTARILY AGREED TO ALLOW THE CITY TO DEMOLISH THE STRUCTURE PURSUANT TO CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 59, SECTION FIVE.
NO FURTHER ACTION IS NEEDED BY THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.
IT WAS SIGNED, UH, BY THE OWNER MARCH THE NINTH OF 2022.
AND THAT IS FOR THE MAIN STRUCTURE.
THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 51 42 WARBECK ROAD IN COUNCIL DISTRICT SEVEN HAS VOLUNTARILY AGREED TO ALLOW THE CITY TO DEMOLISH THE STRUCTURE PURSUANT TO CHAPTER SIX DASH 15 NINE, SECTION FIVE.
NO FURTHER ACTION IS NEEDED BY THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.
UM, THAT WAS SIGNED BY THE OWNER ON MARCH 28TH, 2022.
AND THAT IS ALSO FOR THE MAIN STRUCTURE.
AND THE LAST ITEMS ARE EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS TO READ INTO THE RECORD.
UH, THE FIRST ONE IS, LET'S SEE THE STRUCTURE LOCATED AT TWO 12 RIPLEY AVENUE IN COUNCIL.
DISTRICT ONE WAS DEMOLISHED, UH, DUE TO A FIRE THAT OCCURRED ON MARCH 22ND, 2022.
UM, THIS WAS DEMOLISHED AS AN EMERGENCY DUE TO THE EXTENSIVENESS.
SO PURSUANT TO CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 75, NO FURTHER ACTION IS NEEDED BY THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.
THAT STRUCTURE WAS DEMOLISHED ON MARCH 25TH, 2022.
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AND THE LAST ONE, STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 1 64 NORTH SAN JOAQUIN AVENUE IN COUNCIL.DISTRICT FIVE WAS DEMOLISHED AS AN EMERGENCY ON MARCH 29TH, 2022 DUE TO A FIRE WHICH DID OCCUR ON IT'S, SORRY ABOUT THAT, WHICH DID OCCUR ON MARCH 29TH.
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 75, NO FURTHER ACTION IS NEEDED BY THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.
IT WAS DEMOLISHED ON APRIL THE FIRST OF 2022.
THAT DOES COMPLETE MY REPORT THIS MORNING OF EVERYTHING WE NEEDED TO READ INTO THE RECORD.
UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, UM, THERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE BEFORE AND AFTER FOR THE EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS AS WELL.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UH, MS. JENNY? NO.
INDIVIDUAL CASE PRESENTATIONS.
MY NAME IS DENISE HASTINGS, CODE ENFORCEMENT SUPERVISOR.
THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS LOCATED IN COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE AT TWO 20 FROST.
THERE ARE THREE CASES FOR THIS PROPERTY.
NOTICES WERE ISSUED ON THE SAME DAY.
MAY I PROCEED WITH ALL THREE? YOU MAY.
THE FIRST ALLEGED VIOLATION IS SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE 3 0 4 0.2 PROTECTIVE TREATMENT.
ALL EXTERIOR SURFACES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO DOORS, DOOR WINDOW FRAMES, HARNESS PORCHES, TRIM BALCONIES, AND DECKS SHALL BE MAINTAINED IN GOOD CONDITION.
EXTERIOR WOOD SURFACES OTHER THAN DECAY RESISTANT WOOD SHALL BE PROTECTED FROM THE ELEMENTS AND DECAY BY PAINTING OR OTHER PROTECTIVE COVERING OR TREATMENT.
ALL SIDING AND MASONRY JOINTS, AS WELL AS THOSE BETWEEN THE BUILDING ENVELOPE AND THE PERIMETER OF WINDOWS, DOORS, SKYLIGHTS SHALL BE MAINTAINED, WEATHER RESISTANT AND WATERTIGHT.
ALL METAL SURFACES SUBJECT TO RUST OR CORROSION SHALL BE COATED TO INHIBIT SUCH RUST AND CORROSION AND ALL SURFACES WITH RUST OR CORROSION SHALL BE STABILIZED AND COATED TO INHIBIT FOR FUTURE RUST AND CORROSION.
OXIDATION STAIN SHALL BE REMOVED FROM EXTERIOR SURFACES.
SURFACES DESIGNED FOR STABILIZATION BY OXIDATION ARE EXEMPT FROM THIS REQUIREMENT.
THE SECOND IS SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE 3 0 4 0.9 OVERHANG EXTENSION.
ALL OVERHANG EXTENSIONS INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO CANOPIES, MARQUEES SIGNS, METAL AWNINGS, FIRE ESCAPES, STANDPIPES, AND EXHAUST.
DUCTS SHALL BE MAINTAINED IN GOOD REPAIR AND SHALL BE PROPERLY ANCHORED SO AS TO BE KEPT IN SOUND CONDITION WHEN REQUIRED.
ALL EXPOSED SURFACES OF METAL OR WOOD SHALL BE PROTECTED FROM THE ELEMENTS AND AGAINST DECAY OR RUST BY PERIODIC APPLICATION OF WEATHER COATING MATERIALS SUCH AS PAINT OR SIMILAR SURFACE TREATMENT.
AND THE THIRD IS A 6 0 4 0.3 ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS HAZARDS WHERE IT IS FOUND THAT THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM IN A STRUCTURE CONSTITUTES A HAZARD TO THE OCCUPANTS OR THE STRUCTURE BY REASON OF INADEQUATE SERVICE.
IMPROPER FUSING, INSUFFICIENT RECEPTACLE AND LIGHTING OUTLETS, IMPROPER WIRING OR INSTALLATION DETERIORATION OR DAMAGE, OR FOR SIMILAR REASONS, THE CODE OFFICIAL SHALL REQUIRE THE DEFECTS TO BE CORRECTED OR TO ELIMINATE THE HAZARD.
THE CODE OFFICER MADE THE FIRST INSPECTION OF THE PROPERTY ON AUGUST THE SECOND OF 2021.
AT THAT TIME, HE FOUND THE, PARDON ME ONE SECOND.
HE FOUND EXTERIOR WALL SURFACE WITH PEELING PAINT.
UH, HE WAS UNABLE TO MAKE CONTACT WITH ANYONE AT THE LOCATION.
A NOTICE WAS POSTED AND PHOTOS WERE TAKEN.
HE ALSO FOUND THE FRONT PORCH ROOF OVERHANG, UH, WAS MISSING A ROT, IRON SUPPORT ON THE RIGHT SIDE AND WAS HANGING, UH, PRECARIOUSLY.
AND THIRDLY, HE FOUND EXPOSED ELECTRICAL WIRING EXTENDING OUT OF THE STRUCTURE WINDOW, UH, LEADING DIRECTLY TO THE EXTERIOR ELECTRICAL JUNCTION BOX.
NOTICE WAS ALSO POSTED FOR THOSE TWO ITEMS AND PHOTOS WERE TAKEN
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ON OCTOBER THE SEVENTH, 2021.CODE OFFICER SPOKE WITH ALEJANDRO CAMACHO, UH, WHO STATED THAT, UH, HE WAS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND HE WAS GOING TO BE SEEKING EVICTION PROCESS ON FEBRUARY THE 15TH OF 2022.
UH, RE-INSPECTION WAS MADE OF THE PROPERTY.
NO REPAIRS WERE FOUND TO BE MADE ON THE EXTERIOR SIDING, THE PORCH AWNING OR ANY EFFORT TO CORRECT THE ELECTRICAL HAZARD.
MARCH 21ST, 2022, UH, REINSPECTION WAS MADE.
PHOTOS WERE TAKEN, THE PROPERTY REMAINED IN THE SAME CONDITION.
THE TENANT REMAINS IN THE STRUCTURE AND NO PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE TO MAKE REPAIRS.
UH, THE LAST INSPECTION WAS ON APRIL THE SEVENTH OF 2022, WHERE THE PROPERTY STILL REMAINS IN THE SAME CONDITION STILL OCCUPIED BY THE TENANT AND NO REPAIRS MADE.
I ASKED THAT THE BOARD FIND THIS PROPERTY TO BE IN VIOLATIONS OF SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE 3 0 4 0.2 PROTECTIVE TREATMENT 3 0 4 0.9 OVERHANG EXTENSION, AND 6 0 4 0.3 ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS HAZARDS.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UH, THE COURT OFFICER? NO QUESTIONS.
WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT, OR WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT NO REPAIRS, DO THEY GIVE REASONS WHY THEY HAVEN'T DONE REPAIRS? THE OWNER IS IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO SEEK EVICTION AND AT THIS TIME HE'S UNABLE TO MAKE REPAIRS.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOU SAW ON ONE OF THE PICTURES HE'S UNABLE TO GET INTO THE STRUCTURE DUE TO THE DOG THAT'S TIED TO THE FRONT PORTION OF THE HOUSE.
NO, NOT NOT FOR THE OWNER AT THIS TIME.
CAN WE SEE SLIDE 20? HE'S NOT UNABLE TO MAKE REPAIRS.
ALL THIS IS EXTERIOR, IS THAT CORRECT? AND SLIDE 20 HERE SHOWS THE RIGHT THERE.
THAT RIGHT THERE SHOWS THE METER WHERE THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT INAPPROPRIATE CONNECTIONS.
THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE INTERIOR.
SO THE HOMEOWNER TOLD YOU HE CAN'T MAKE REPAIRS ON THE EXTERIOR BECAUSE HE CAN'T GET TO THE INTERIOR.
THAT'S, WELL, HE'S IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO EVICT THE TENANT SO THAT HE CAN MAKE REPAIRS.
SO ON THIS PORTION HERE, I DID MAKE CONTACT WITH THE CHIEF ELECTRICAL INSPECTOR MM-HMM.
BUT THE EXCUSE IS FOR EXTERIOR WORK AND AN EVICTION IS NOT AN EXCUSE NOT TO DO WORK.
IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE NOT TO DO WORK.
SO THE VIOLATION STILL STANDS? THAT IS CORRECT.
ON ALL THREE OF THESE? YES, SIR.
QUESTION, QUESTION'S, QUESTION.
I HAVE ONE, BUT YOU CAN GO FIRST.
WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP HERE WITH, WITH ALEJANDRO? IS HE WITH, UM, WAS IT, UH, RE CAPITAL OR A C O C ENTERPRISE MR. CHAIR AND BOARD? I WOULD, I WOULD ASK THAT, UH, THOSE TYPE OF QUESTIONS BE RESERVED FOR THE OWNER WHO IS HERE AND CAN, CAN SPEAK ON THAT BEHALF.
I, UH, MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ASKING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO SPECULATE AS TO SOME TYPE OF RELATIONSHIP WHEN WE CAN ASK THAT PERSON.
SO NOTED AS FAR AS THE INSPECTION OF THE INTERIOR, THERE WAS NO ATTEMPTED TO LOOK INSIDE THE HOUSE.
THERE WAS NO, UH, ACCESS GRANTED TO THE INTERIOR AND NO WARRANT PULLED FOR THAT? NO, SIR.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE OFFICER? I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO SOME PROPERTY INFORMATION INTO THE RECORD? SURE.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS, UH, LEGAL DESCRIPTION N C B 8 4 4 7, BLOCK 14, LOT 11 AND 12.
UH, THE OWNER ON RECORD IS A C O C ENTERPRISES, L L C, LOCATED WITH A PO BOX OF 7 0 1 9 4 5 SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS.
NO OTHER QUESTIONS, CHAIRMAN? YES.
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UH, LEGAL, REGARDLESS IF HE CAN'T EVICT HIM OF THE LIKES, WE STILL HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON IT AND THEN, UH, FORWARD THE OWNER OR LLCS HERE, IT'S UP TO THEM.WE STILL HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION ON THIS CASE, ON IT'S VIOLATIONS.
AND, UH, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS, WE, WE CAN'T DO NOTHING BUT, AND MAKE THE DECISION AND THEN GO FORWARD WITH IT.
ON JUST TO, UH, FROM THE LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, YES, THE ONLY DECISION YOU CAN MAKE IS ON THE VIOLATIONS PRESENTED TO YOU.
HOWEVER, AS THE BOARD, IF YOU FEEL, UH, FURTHER INSPECTION IS WARRANTED, UH, YOU CAN PROVIDE THAT AS AN ORDER OR YOU CAN PROVIDE THE OPTION TO HAVE IT BROUGHT BACK ONCE IT'S BEEN VACATED.
S I APOLOGIZE, WE'RE ALWAYS MR. BURNS HERE,
THAT'S JUST THE CONTROL FREAK IN ME.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE HAVE, UH, TWO PEOPLE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE, UH, ALEJANDRO, IS IT CAMACHO? ALEJANDRO CAMACHO? YES.
COULD YOU COME UP, SIR, AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND, UM, UH, STATE YOUR CASE? UH, MY NAME IS ALEJANDRO O CAMACHO.
UH, I'M THE OWNER OF THE, UH, L L C C.
YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE, YOUR ADDRESS WHERE YOU LIVE? IT, MY PO BOX IS WHAT I USE.
IS THAT FINE? WHEREVER YOU LIVE, SIR.
70 19 54 SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS, 7 8 2 7 0.
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO ALL OF SAN ANTONIO FOR THIS DISASTER.
I'M IN TOTALLY EMBARRASSED, UH, AND I HOPE I CAN EXPLAIN THE SITUATION BECAUSE IT IS RELEVANT TO, TO EVERYTHING THAT HAS GOING ON.
UH, I THOUGHT MY, UH, NIGHTMARE WAS OVER WHEN I GOT DIVORCED, BUT IT WAS REPLACED BY THIS, UH, THIS PROPERTY, UH, IS A PROPERTY THAT HAD BEEN IN DISPUTE WITH MY EX-WIFE AND I.
SO WHEN I GOT DIVORCED, I GOT SLAPPED WITH ABOUT A $60,000 JUDGMENT IN FAVOR OF MY EX-WIFE, UH, ABOUT $17,000 OF PROPERTY TAXES.
AND THE PROPERTY WAS NOT AS BAD AS IT WAS, UH, AS IT'S SHOWN RIGHT NOW.
UM, I HAVE, UH, TO ANSWER THE GENTLEMAN'S, UH, QUESTION ABOUT THE RE CAPITAL.
RE CAPITAL IS THE LIEN HOLDER OF THE PROPERTY.
MY MORTGAGE ON THAT IS $1,100 PER MONTH.
MY PROPERTY TAXES ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN $300 A MONTH.
UH, INSURANCE A HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH.
SO I HAD TO BASICALLY TAKE ONE PROBLEM AT A TIME.
UH, THE FIRST ONE WAS TO PAY THE $17,000 PROPERTY TAXES SO THE PROPERTY WOULD NOT BE, UH, FORECLOSED, WHICH I DID.
THE PROPERTY, UH, TAXES ARE CURRENT.
UH, UH, SECOND THING WAS TO ALLEVIATE THE MORTGAGE, LIKE I SAID, IT WAS $1,100.
UH, THIS GENTLEMAN THAT APPROACHED ME TO, UH, LEASE THE PROPERTY IS PAYING ME $695.
HE'S BEEN THERE FOR TWO YEARS AND HE HAS OWED ME SIX MONTHS, UH, OF PROPERTY.
I GOT CALLS FROM INSPECTORS AS FAR AS THE CONDITION DURING THE COVID PERIOD, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, IT WAS DIFFICULT TO EVICT, UH, TENANTS.
SO I, AT THAT TIME, I, I REALLY DIDN'T INTEND, UH, TO EVEN APPROACH HIM AS FAR AS THAT WAS CONCERNED.
SO WHEN IT GOT WORSE, WHEN I WAS GETTING CALLS FOR THE INSPECTORS, I EXPLAINED THE SITUATION AND, UM, THAT DOG THAT IS THERE HAS A LEASH THAT IS ABOUT 20 FEET LONG.
AND I KNOW WHAT HIS INTENTIONS WERE, AND THAT WAS SO THAT NO ONE COULD KNOCK ON HIS DOOR.
UH, SO I COULDN'T EVEN EVICT THEM BECAUSE OF THAT.
HE PARKED AT LEAST A COUPLE OF TRUCKS IN, IN THE FRONT LAWN.
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HE HAD OLD A C UNITS ALL OVER THE FRONT LAWN TRASH ALL OVER THE HOUSE.THAT, UH, COLUMN THAT WAS SUPPORTING THE, THE FRONT PORCH.
I KNOW SOMEHOW WHILE HE WAS THERE, THAT HAPPENED WHEN HE JUST LEFT IT THAT WAY, THE NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, RAN HIS CAR INTO THE BACK PART OF MY HOUSE, WHICH IS UNBELIEVABLE.
SO IT'S JUST BEEN A LOT OF MONEY THAT IT HAS CAUSED ME.
AND RIGHT NOW I'M AT THE POINT WHERE I'M ALMOST THERE.
LIKE I SAID, MY PROPERTY TAXES ARE CURRENT.
THE JUDGMENT WITH MY EX-WIFE HAS BEEN MORE OR LESS TAKEN CARE OF.
SO THE ONLY THING THAT I NEED TO DO IS, IS REQUEST A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO, UH, DO WHAT I NEED TO DO.
HE JUST TEXTED ME OR, OR SENT ME SOME PHOTOS, UH, AT 8 55 THIS MORNING.
I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL WANNA LOOK AT THE PICTURES.
UH, THE ELECTRICAL, I'M NOT TOO SURE.
UH, I KNOW THAT HE DID THAT BECAUSE HE RUNS WIRES TO CONNECT HIS UNITS OUTSIDE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.
UM, THE TRASH HAS BEEN COMPLETELY, UH, REMOVED, SO IT LOOKS 10 TIMES BETTER THAN IT WAS AFTER THESE PICTURES.
I PHYSICALLY HAVE NOT GONE OVER THERE TO INSPECT THEM MYSELF, BUT I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE PICTURES AND PROVIDE 'EM TO Y'ALL.
BUT, UM, IF HE DOES WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO, I DON'T MIND WORKING WITH HIM.
BUT IF HE DOESN'T, I GAVE HIM TILL THE END OF THIS MONTH, AND IF HE CAN'T COMPLY, THEN I WILL EVICT HIM, AND THEN I WILL GO IN THERE AND DO EVERYTHING THAT I, THAT I NEED TO DO.
SIR, WE, WE APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS AND TELLING US THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU'RE THE PROPERTY OWNER AND IT'S YOUR JOB TO FIX THE PROPERTY BY, YOU KNOW, BY WHATEVER MEANS NECESSARY.
UH, IF YOU NEED TO EVICT THE TENANT, IT DOESN'T TAKE FOUR MONTHS TO DO THIS.
NO, I REALIZE THAT YOU IN JANUARY AND BEEN DONE WITH IT BY NOW.
SO, UM, YOU HAVE TO, YOU JUST HAVE TO GO TO COURT AND DO IT RIGHT.
AND, UH, OF COURSE THAT'S GONNA COST MORE MONEY.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT ARE YOUR INTENTIONS TO FIX THE PROPERTY.
WELL, UH, HONESTLY, MY INTENTIONS ARE TO MOVE HIM OUT REGARDLESS WHETHER HE PAYS WHAT HE OWES OR IF HE DOESN'T, DOESN'T MATTER, UH, AND FIX THE PROPERTY.
AND I, AND I PROMISE EVERYBODY HERE, THAT IT WILL BE THE BEST LOOKING HOUSE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NOW.
BUT I, BUT I WILL PROMISE THAT.
DID YOU BRING IN ANY KIND OF, UH, FINANCIAL, YOU KNOW, MEANS OR DID YOU BRING IN, UH, UH, CONTRACTORS REPORTS SAYING WHAT ALL THE, THE PROPERTY NEEDED OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE? HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED? I THINK THAT WAS ALL IN YOUR MIND TO PAINT THE EXTERIOR, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN A WEEK.
AS FAR AS THE ELECTRICAL, THE SAME THING, UH, IN THE SAME WEEK THAT I, THAT I CAN PAINT THE HOUSE, I CAN TAKE CARE OF, UH, THE ELECTRICAL HIRE, UH, UM, LICENSED ELECTRICIAN AND PULL PERMIT, WHATEVER IS NEEDED TO DO THAT.
UH, LIKE I SAID, THE COLUMN HAS ALREADY BEEN REPAIRED.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROOF OF THAT.
SIR, IF YOU HAVE A PICTURE, COULD YOU GIVE IT TO THE LADIES HERE AND LET THEM? WELL, I, THEY WERE JUST TEXTED ME, SO I DON'T KNOW.
HOW CAN I GET 'EM TO YOU? YOU CAN PUT 'EM UP ON YOUR PHONE.
AND THEN WE'LL GET HIM FROM THE
NO, TWO THAT'S ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
ALL THE TRASH HAS BEEN REMOVED.
SIR, THIS, THIS IS ROBERT TAPIA.
DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE ANYBODY TO HELP YOU WITH THIS? OH, YES.
RESOURCES, YES, I HAVE ALL OF THAT IN, UH, LINED UP.
UM, THAT'S WHAT WE REALLY NEEDED TO SEE TODAY AS EVIDENCE OF, IS THAT MINE? OH, I'M SORRY.
THAT'S WHAT WE NEEDED TO SEE TODAY.
UH, SO THAT WE CAN PASS JUDGMENT ON WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
YOU UNDERSTAND? WHAT CAN I PROVIDE TO SHOW THAT I CAN DO IT? I DON'T, I'M NOT TOO SURE.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO SEE.
WELL, A PLAN, I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, MY MAIN RESOURCES, RE CAPITAL, UH, THEY'RE ACTUALLY THE COMPANY THAT LEND ME THE MONEY TO, UH, PAY THE PROPERTY TAXES TO PAY MY EX-WIFE AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT
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I HAVE PAID.UH, I CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH A LETTER FROM THEM STATING THAT YES, THEY'RE WILLING TO LEND ME THE MONEY TO DO WHAT I NEED TO DO.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I'M HERE.
SO I DIDN'T REALIZE THE THINGS THAT I NEEDED, BUT I CAN COMPLY WITH EVERYTHING THAT IS REQUESTED.
DID YOU RECEIVED THE PACKET, MADAM CHAIR? THIS IS DWAYNE NELSON.
UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE, THE INFORMATION FOR FINANCES IS NOT REQUIRED.
THIS IS JUST AN ISSUE OF WHETHER THERE IS A VIOLATION OF PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE OR NOT.
UH, THEREFORE THE NORMAL THINGS THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT IN TERMS OF, UH, DANGEROUS STRUCTURES IS NOT REQUIRED IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ALSO IF HE HAS THE FINANCES TO FIX THIS PROPERTY UP BECAUSE HE'S HAD SO MANY FINANCIAL BURDENS ACCORDING TO I, I KNOW IT'S NOT REQUIRED, BUT HE'S HAD SO MANY FINANCIAL BURDENS, YOU KNOW, UM, TO FIX UP THE PROPERTY OR THE WIFE AND THE, I MEAN, THE WHOLE, WHOLE NINE YARDS.
BUT, UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW IF HE HAS, UH, A PLAN, IF YOU HAVE A PLAN TO FIX THE PROPERTY OR NOT.
THEREFORE, THE QUESTION TO THE PROPERTY OWNER IS A SIMPLE QUESTION.
DO YOU HAVE THE FINANCES TO DO THE REPAIRS? LIKE I SAID, RE CAPITAL.
I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THEM FOR 20 YEARS, AND IF I CAN SHOW, UH, THAT THE PROPERTY HAS ENOUGH EQUITY, THEY ARE MORE THAN WILLING TO, TO LEND ME THE MONEY TO DO IT.
SO I HAVE DONE IT BEFORE, SO I I HAVE NO DOUBT.
AND THE ONE QUESTION THAT I NEED TO ANSWER OR HAVE ANSWERED IS, HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED TO MAKE THOSE REPAIRS? UH, LIKE I SAID, THE PAINTING, IT CAN BE DONE VERY QUICKLY.
THE ELECTRICAL, IF IT'S STILL A HAZARD, THE SAME, UH, WEEK.
UM, I WOULD SAY REALISTICALLY, IF IT'S POSSIBLE, 30 DAYS.
MADAM CHAIR, I HAVE QUESTIONS.
MR. ANDERS, YOU'RE SAYING YOU DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY, CORRECT? OR THE DOG? CORRECT.
WHAT BOTHERS ME, CAN YOU GO TO THE LAST SLIDE? I'M NOT SURE THE NUMBER.
AND I ASKED THIS TO CODE COMPLIANCE AND I SHOULDN'T PROBABLY HAVE, OH, I'M SORRY.
THAT IS A CODE COMPLIANCE FINGER.
THEY WALKED AROUND THE PROPERTY FOR HOW LONG IT TOOK, OPENED THE BOX UP, GOT THE VIOLATIONS.
AND YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU CAN'T GET ON THE PROPERTY TO FIX ATTEMPT'S PROPERTY UP? WELL, UH, IT ALL DEPENDS ON YOUR PHOBIAS, I GUESS.
BUT, UH, I AM TERRIFIED OF DOGS.
AND LIKE I SAID, THAT DOG CAN REACH ALL THE WAY TO THE FRONT AND TO THE SIDES OF THE HOUSE.
THE FIRST TIME THAT I WENT TO, TO TRY TO TALK TO THIS GENTLEMAN, THAT DOG CAME AT ME,
AND I HAD TO WALK VERY SLOWLY BACK BECAUSE I, I WAS NOT GOING TO TAKE A CHANCE ON AN ACCIDENT HAPPENING.
SO I WAS NOT WILLING TO, TO GO BACK OUT THERE.
'CAUSE I DRIVE BY THERE AND I SEE THAT DOG IS THERE 24 7.
HAVE YOU MADE COMMUNICATIONS BY PHONE WITH HIM? I TEXT HIM 20 TIMES AND HE RETURNS ONE TIME ONLY TO TELL ME THAT HE'S GOT $200, UH, TO GIVE ME.
UH, SO I SPOKE TO HIM LAST NIGHT.
I TOLD HIM THAT I WAS GONNA COME HERE FOR, FOR THIS.
I HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN IF I WAS GONNA GET A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME OR WHATEVER.
I SAID, DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS THERE, YOU'RE GONNA BE OUT AND IF YOU WANNA PAY, PAY, AND IF YOU DON'T WANT TO, THAT'S FINE TOO, BUT I GOTTA DO WHAT I GOTTA DO TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY.
NOW YOU HAVE FOUR CORNERS OF THE CONTRACT BY THE LAW THAT YOU HAVE A OBLIGATION AS A TENANT, AS AS A LEASER.
A TENANT HAS AN OBLIGATION, YOUR OBLIGATION IS TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE A ROOF OVER THEIR HEAD, PAINTING ALL THAT, RIGHT? CORRECT.
I'M JUST NOT FINDING IT THAT YOU ARE HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING ON THE PROPERTY WHEN OTHER PEOPLE AREN'T.
WELL, LIKE I SAID, I, I AM NOT GOING TO RISK AN ACCIDENT IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO TAKE THAT RISK, THAT'S UP TO THEM.
I DON'T KNOW IF, IF THE MAILMAN DELIVERS THE, THE MAIL, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE DOES WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
BUT I CAN'T, THE ONLY THING THAT I AM PROMISING IS THAT ONCE THIS GENTLEMAN IS OUT, I WILL DO EVERYTHING THAT I NEED TO DO AND IT WON'T TAKE VERY LONG.
LIKE I SAID, IF I CAN GET THE 30 DAYS, I WILL DO IT.
AND YOU'RE JUST SAYING THAT YOU NEED 30 DAYS? YES, MA'AM.
IS THE ELECTRICITY IN YOUR NAME OR THE TENANT'S NAME? TENANT ALL THOSE WIRES THAT ARE COMING OUT? IT WASN'T LIKE THAT.
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YOU DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THE EVICTION'S GONNA TAKE.WELL, UH, I DID IT YEARS AGO, AND AT THAT TIME IT TOOK APPROXIMATELY 45 DAYS.
SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR 45 DAYS BASED OFF OF THAT PLUS ANOTHER 30 DAYS.
BUT YOU NEED 45 DAYS TO GET HIM OUTTA THERE, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO, SIR.
UH, I ALREADY STARTED THE, UH, THE PROCESS.
THE ONLY THING THAT I NEED TO DO RIGHT NOW IS CALL THE CONSTABLE, SET UP AN APPOINTMENT SO THEY CAN HELP ME GET 'EM OUT.
SO DEPENDING ON THEIR SCHEDULE, COUPLE OF WEEKS I WOULD IMAGINE, I, I DON'T KNOW.
UH, BUT I FEEL THAT WITHIN THOSE 30 DAYS I CAN DO EVERYTHING.
BUT AGAIN, YOU WANT HIM OUT BEFORE YOU START.
SO IF IT TAKES TWO WEEKS OR 30 DAYS, IF HE, YOU DIDN'T WANT ANOTHER 30 DAYS AFTER THAT? NO, SIR.
SO IF HE GETS RID OF THAT DOG, I CAN GO IN THERE IMMEDIATELY.
UH, I'M NOT GONNA DO THE WORK.
I CAN HIRE SOMEBODY TO GO DO IT AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO IT WHILE A DOG IS RUNNING, RUNNING AROUND, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS IF ANYTHING'S GONNA HAPPEN.
SO IF HE, IF HE REMOVES THAT DOG OR CHANGE THEM TO THE BACKYARD, WHATEVER HE NEEDS TO DO, WE CAN START ON IT IMMEDIATELY AND, UH, GET HIM OUT ANYWAY, BECAUSE I DON'T, I, HE'S, HE'S SEVERAL MONTHS BEHIND ANYWAY, SO IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME NOW IF HE COMES UP WITH THE LAST THREE MONTHS THAT HE OWES OR WHATEVER, BUT I NEED TO GO AND COMPLY WITH, WITH THE REQUIREMENTS HERE.
MADAM CHAIR, DWAYNE NELSON, QUESTION TO THE LEGAL STAFF, UH, BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT TWO ISSUES THAT ARE DANGEROUS ISSUES, I E THE OVERHANG, AND WHILE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEING REPAIRED, IT HAS NOT BEEN INSPECTED.
THE SECOND ITEM IS ELECTRICAL.
THOSE TWO ITEMS ARE DANGEROUS ISSUES.
DO, DOES THE BOARD HAVE THE ABILITY OR THE AUTHORITY TO ORDER A VACATE? YES.
CAN ORDER THE VACATE IMMEDIATELY.
AND ALSO, UM, TO CLARIFY, UM, THE QUESTION OR ISSUE THAT WAS RAISED EARLIER, AS FAR AS THE LANDLORD'S ABILITY TO ENTER THE PROPERTY, UH, THE CITY ACTUALLY HAS A, A GREATER RIGHT TO ENTER PROPERTY AND, UH, THE CITY ALSO, UH, HAS A C S ON STANDBY OR POLICE, UH, FOR ANY THREATS.
HOWEVER, DEPENDING ON THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS IN THE CONTRACT, UH, THE LANDLORD MAY NOT HAVE THAT.
HOW DID YOU GET IN TO DO THE REPAIRS THAT WERE DONE AND THE CLEANUP? HE DID IT.
WAS THERE A TIMESTAMP ON THOSE PICTURES? I JUST GOT 'EM THIS MORNING AT 8 55.
UH, WE HAD, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE, I I HAVE QUESTIONS.
UH, FIRST THAT REPAIR THAT WAS MADE, WAS THERE A PERMIT? PULLED THE COLUMN? YES.
NO, LIKE I SAID, HE DID THE REPAIRS.
HE JUST SURPRISED ME RIGHT NOW WHEN HE SENT THEM TO ME.
WHEN YOU RENTED HIM THE PROPERTY, WAS THE BOX LIKE THAT ALREADY? NO, MA'AM.
THOSE WIRES WERE NOT STICKING OUT LIKE THAT.
HE'S BEEN THERE FOR TWO YEARS.
THE FIRST INSPECTION WAS DONE IN AUGUST OF 2021.
SO THE, YOU DIDN'T GET ANY TYPE OF INSPECTION OR ANYTHING PRIOR TO THAT.
YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY BEFORE AUGUST OF 2021, DID YOU HAVE ANY NOTIFICATION FROM THE CITIES? NO, MA'AM.
SO THE MAT MORATORIUM ON EVICTION ENDED BEFORE THIS FIRST INSPECTION.
AND AN EVICTION TAKES 21 DAYS.
SO YOU'VE HAD SINCE AUGUST OF LAST YEAR.
AND EVICTION IS IRRELEVANT AT THIS POINT.
IT HAS BEEN SINCE AUGUST, AND IT IS NOW THE MIDDLE OF APRIL.
WELL, I, UM, HAVE TO GO BACK TO MY ORIGINAL EXPLANATION ABOUT THE, THE, UH, SITUATION WITH MY EX-WIFE.
I COULD NOT GO IN THERE AND PUT $20,000 OF REPAIRS KNOWING THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT I CAN DO.
I, I, I DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY TO, JUST TO PUT IT OUT THERE JUST TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.
SO I WAS WORKING WITH THE TENANT, LIKE I SAID, HE, THE AGREEMENT WAS 6 95 PER MONTH, EVEN THOUGH MY MORTGAGE IS $1,100 PLUS $300, UH, PROPERTY TAXES PLUS A HUNDRED DOLLARS.
SO THAT'S A BIG LOSS FOR ME EVERY SINGLE MONTH.
SO I WAS TRYING TO WORK WITH HIM.
IF YOU TALK TO HIM, HE'S VERY NICE.
HE, WE DON'T GET INTO ANY TYPE OF ARGUMENTS OF ANY KIND.
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AND IT JUST KEPT ON GOING LIKE THAT UNTIL IT GOT TO THIS POINT.AND I MEAN, I'M SORRY THAT I'M HERE, BUT LIKE I EXPLAINED TO HIM, I'M ALREADY AT THE POINT WHERE IF I DON'T DO WHAT I NEED TO DO, I'M ASSUMING I'M GONNA GET FINES IF I DON'T KNOW WHAT, AND I CANNOT AFFORD THAT ANYMORE.
I'VE ALREADY PAID TOO MUCH MONEY, UH, UM, AS A CONSEQUENCE OF THIS PROPERTY.
SO I DON'T, I, I CAN'T RISK ANYMORE.
I NEED TO GET 'EM OUT AND THEN DO WHAT I NEED TO DO, THEN I'M WILLING TO, TO RISK IT.
SO MY NEXT QUESTION, AND IT MAY BE LEGAL.
UM, ISN'T THERE A LAW AGAINST TRAINING ANIMALS IN THE YARD? I, IT'S, UH, UH, THE LOT THAT WENT INTO EFFECT IN FEBRUARY WAS THAT, UH, YOU CANNOT USE, UH, STEEL OR THOSE CHAIN, UM, LEASHES.
IT HAS TO BE, UH, SOFT AND IT HAS TO BE A CERTAIN AMOUNT, UH, OF LENGTH TO ALLOW THE DOG TO HAVE FREE ACCESS TO FOOD AND WATER.
SO THEY CAN, UH, STILL BE, UH, UNFORTUNATELY, UH, THEY CAN STILL BE TIED UP, BUT IT CANNOT BE WITH THE CHAINS AND THE HEAVY CHOKER COLORS.
AND, AND IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, IT IS A CHAIN.
I CAN'T SWEAR ON IT, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT IT IS A CHAIN, UH, NOT AS A DEFENSE TO THE TENANT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MATTER.
BUT LIKE I SAID, IT IS ABOUT 20 FEET LONG OR LONGER.
I'VE NEVER SEEN THE DOG IN ANY SITUATION WHERE I CAN SEE THAT HE IS THIRSTY OR HUNGRY.
UH, BUT, UH, TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, I BELIEVE IT IS, UH, UH, A CHAIN AND HE CHAINS THEM TO THE, TO THE CAR.
THE CAR IS SITTING IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE SO HE CAN GO FROM THE CAR ALL THE WAY TO THE FRONT DOOR OF THE HOUSE.
YOU KNOW, SIR, MADAM, I'M LISTENING TO, TO ALL OF THIS, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS HAS TO DO WITH YOU GOING TO, TO THE, UH, THE COURT AND GETTING AN EVICTION NOTICE.
LIKE I SAID, I, I'VE ALREADY DONE THAT.
I JUST NEED TO GET THE CONSTABLE TO GIVE ME AN APPOINTMENT.
UH, WHAT, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? DID YOU FILE, YOU FILED IN JUSTICE OF PEACE? I WENT, HE DIDN'T GO, SO HE LOST.
UH, SO NOW THE NEXT STEP IS THE, UH, THE WR OF POSSESSION? YES, MA'AM.
WELL, THE, THE POSSESSION IS LIKE IMMEDIATE.
YOU, UH, SPEAKING ABOUT EVICTION, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LAWS ON THE TENANT, ON THE RENTERS THAT THEY GOTTA GO THROUGH, BUT HE TALK, HE STATED, WE'LL SEND A CONSTABLE OVER THERE AND THEN WE'LL PROCESS RIGHT QUICK.
IT IS NOT THAT EASY BECAUSE PROBABLY YOU, YOU KNOW, IT'LL TAKE 90 DAYS THAT THEY CAN HAVE LEGALLY TO GET OUT OF THE HOUSE AND YOU SAVE 45 DAYS
BUT I MEAN, I GOT AN ATTORNEY HERE, BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE THING IS THAT YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO EVICTION.
YOU, YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET A WARRANT TO GET INTO THE HOUSE, ET CETERA.
UH, IT'S, UH, IT, IT, WE COULD SIT HERE, YOU KNOW, AND HEAR THE LIFE STORIES OF WHAT HAPPENED.
BUT I MEAN, I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION.
WELL, LIKE, LIKE I SAID, AS LONG AS THAT DOG IS NOT THERE ANYMORE, I CAN DO WHAT I NEED TO DO IN THE MEANTIME.
UH, IF THE EVICTION TAKES LONGER, THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT THAT.
I MEAN, I HAVE A FRIEND THAT TOOK 'EM SIX MONTHS BECAUSE THE LADY KEPT POSTPONING AND ASKING FOR THIS AND THAT.
SO I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT LIKE I SAID, MY, MY ONLY CONCERN IS TO SEND SOMEBODY OVER THERE AND GET THAT DOG IN THE BACK OR OUT OF OUR ARMS REACH.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT I ASK.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO TELL YOU TO CALL ANIMAL CONTROL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
DO WE HAVE A, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY, SIR.
DO WE HAVE A, UH, A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR? DWAYNE NELSON.
THE PROPERTY LOCATED, EXCUSE ME.
THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
THERE'S ANOTHER PERSON HERE TO SPEAK.
IS THAT, IS IT JESS? JESSE? I'M SORRY, I CAN'T READ THE WRITING.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING HER COME ON UP, SIR.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
LOS ANGELES HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD
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ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT.I RESIDE AT 3 1 4 FROST STREET.
UH, AND WHAT'S YOUR NAME AGAIN? HERB SALINAS.
SIR, COULD YOU PUT THE MIC NUMBER? HERB
WANNA STATE YOUR CASE, SIR? YES, I, I'D LIKE TO REITERATE THE CONCERNS OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
UH, TWO 20 FROST HAS BEEN A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION AT A FEW OF OUR MEETINGS.
THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN IN, UH, SEVERE DISREPAIR FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
I UNDERSTAND THE OWNER'S HAVING DIFFICULT TIME WITH THE TENANTS, WHICH SEEMS PROLONGED DUE TO THE COVID SITUATION.
WE'D LIKE TO HELP IN ANY WAY THAT WE CAN.
UM, WE JUST WANNA BRING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUR COMMUNITY IN GENERAL.
AND BACK TO, I MEAN, WHAT I REMEMBER GROWING UP AS A KID, I'VE BEEN IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 40 YEARS, AND THE CHANGES WE'VE SEEN ARE VERY CONCERNING TO ME.
WE'RE CONCERNED THAT WE'LL FACE, UH, THE SAME SITUATION WITH THE NEXT TENANTS THAT COME ALONG.
I MEAN, WE'VE HAVE AN ISSUE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE WE'RE LITERALLY WATCHING PEOPLE COME AND BUY UP THE HOUSES, RENT TO THE FIRST PERSON WITH MONEY, AND THEN WE GET TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES THAT THEY BRING IN.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY WE'VE HAD A FEW PROPERTIES THAT ARE, THAT WERE IN DISPAIR LIKE THIS.
AND THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT ARE WILLING TO LIVE THERE AREN'T NECESSARILY THE PILLARS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
I HAD A PROPERTY ALMOST EXACTLY LIKE THIS RIGHT NEXT TO MY HOUSE.
THE GENTLEMAN CAME UP, INTRODUCED HIMSELF, MY NAME IS BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
IF YOU EVER WANNA BUY SOME WEED, LET ME KNOW.
THOSE ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT WE GET LIVING IN THESE HOUSES.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WE GET TO DEAL WITH THAT ISSUE AND WE JUST WANT SOMETHING DONE.
IF WE CAN HELP THE PROPERTY OWNER IN ANY WAY, THAT'S FINE.
BUT OUR COMMUNITY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS, UH, THE PRIORITY FOR US.
YOU MIGHT WANNA GET WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER.
DO WE HAVE A, A MOTION, MADAM CHAIR DWAYNE NELSON? OH, YES.
DWAYNE, I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT TWO 20 FROST WAS IN VIOLATION OF SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODES 3 0 4 0.2 3 0, 4 0.960 4.3, UH, ON TO AUGUST OF 2021.
UH, I FIND THAT PROPERTY REMAINS IN VIOLATION.
THE PROPERTY IS TO BE REPAIRED IN 30 DAYS, UH, AND THE VA PROPERTY IS TO BE VACATED UNTIL A SPECIAL IN FACT VACATED UNTIL REPAIRS ARE MADE.
UH, AND TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE CODE OFFICER ROBERT, COPY SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR A 30 DAY REPAIR AND ALSO, UM, TO VACATE THE PROPERTY, I GUESS IMMEDIATELY.
VACATE THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY, UM, AND TO FIX THE PROPERTY TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE CODE OFFICER ACCORDING TO CODES 3 0 4 0.230 4.9 AND 6 0 4 0.3? CORRECT.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I'D LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION.
I'M SORRY, UH, FROM LEGAL, UM, THE OWNER SAID THAT HE HAD ALREADY GONE TO EVICTION COURT, SO ALL HE NEEDED WAS THE WR OF POSSESSION.
ARE WE ABLE TO ORDER A NOTICE TO VACATE ON TOP OF THE WR OF POSSESSION? YES.
'CAUSE THE NOTICE TO VACATES WITHIN THIS BOARD'S AUTHORITY, UH, AS TO THE WRIT OF POSSESSION, JUST, UH, FOR Y'ALL'S INFORMATION, UH, BECAUSE, UH, EVS WERE ON PAUSE, UH, DURING C O V I D, UH, THE CONSTABLES, UM, IN, UH, ENFORCING THE RATE OF POSSESSION THERE, THERE IS A VERY LONG DELAY, UH, JUST TO ANSWER A QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED.
SO THEY'RE NOT, UH, RIGHT NOW IT'S TAKING, UM, ANYWHERE FROM A MONTH TO TWO MONTHS FOR THE CONSTABLES TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, AS YOU CAN UNDERSTAND.
AND THEN I JUST ALSO WANTED TO CLARIFY ONE, UH, MR. ZUNIGA ON THE, THE WARRANT QUESTION, UH, CIVILIANS ARE NOT, UH, ABLE TO OBTAIN WARRANTS ONLY, UH, GOVERNMENT ENTITIES.
SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER, ARE THERE ANY, UM, DISCUSSIONS? YES.
I'M GONNA OPPOSE THIS FOR THIS REASON.
THE EXCUSES THAT WERE USED WERE HE COULDN'T GET ON THE PROPERTY 'CAUSE OF A DOG.
HE COULDN'T GET INTO PROPERTY, DO ANYTHING.
NOW HE'S ASKED AND GOT APPARENTLY ARE GONNA GET THIS BOARD TO DO WHAT HE COULDN'T DO IN A COURT, WHICH IS EVICT AN INDIVIDUAL.
THE REPAIR IS WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.
IT WASN'T ABOUT A DOG OR AN EVICTION.
AND NOW WE'RE HERE DEALING WITH AN EVICTION TOO.
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APPROPRIATE IN THIS CASE BECAUSE THE GENTLEMAN COULDN'T GET IT DONE IN A COURTROOM.SO I'M GONNA OPPOSE OR BASICALLY VOTE AGAINST THIS BECAUSE OF THE EVICTION PART FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT, UH, ON IT.
YOU'VE GOT TWO ISSUES IN THIS PARTICULAR CODE VIOLATION THAT ARE DANGEROUS STRUCTURES.
YOU'VE GOT THE ELECTRICAL ISSUE, YOU'VE GOT THE OVERHANG.
UH, WHILE THE OVERHANG APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN REPAIRED, WE DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN REPAIRED TO THE SATISFACTION OF A COLD OFFICER.
UH, THAT'S THE REASON WHY THAT I FEEL LIKE IT IS AN ISSUE OF VACATE.
UH, AND THE FACT THAT HE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE HAD A PROBLEM ON VACATE IS IMMATERIAL TO ME.
THE REPAIRS HAVE TO BE MADE AND THERE'S TWO POINT COMPONENTS OF THE REPAIR THAT ARE DANGEROUS STRUCTURES.
SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY I'M ISSUING A VACATE ORDER.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, CODE COMPLIANCE WAS OUT THERE, THEY DIDN'T DEEM THAT AS A PRIORITY AND THEY DIDN'T ORDER AN IMMEDIATE EVICTION WELL AS, OR AN EVICTION.
SO AS A CONTRACTOR, YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD HAVE TO ADMIT THAT THE OVERHANG IS A, A, A DANGEROUS ISSUE.
YOU'D HAVE TO ADMIT THE ELECTRICAL ISSUE IS A DANGEROUS ISSUE.
I, I'M, I'M NOT ARGUING THE POINT OF THEM BEING DANGEROUS ISSUES.
I'M ARGUING THE FACT THAT THIS BOARD JUST EVICTED SOMEBODY THAT HE COULD NOT GET EVICTED.
UH, MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO CALL AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO, UH, DISCUSS, UH, ATTORNEY CLIENT MATTER.
UH, IT'S 9 59 AND, UH, THE V S B WILL CONVENE FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM.
UH, THE BILL OF STANDARDS BOARD IS NOW, UH, 10 10:16 AM AND WE ARE RECONVENING BACK AT THE, UH, AT THE MEETING.
UH, NO OFFICIAL BUSINESS WAS CONDUCTED IN THE, UH, IN THE BOARDROOM.
SO, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE, ON THE BOARD.
AND THEN THE MOTION READS THAT, UM, TO REPAIR IN 30 DAYS TO VACATE THE, THE BUILDING AND TO HOLD ON, UH, SECURE THE PREMISES.
THE PREMISES WAS NOT PART OF THE MOTION OR WAS NOT, I'M SORRY.
JUST TO VACATE THE PREMISES, UH, TO THE, TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE CODE OFFICER, I BELIEVE, AND THE VACATE AND THE REPAIR WITHIN 30 DAYS.
ALRIGHT, SINCE WE'VE HAD DISCUSSION, I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANYMORE.
UH, CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MS. BROWN? AYE.
MR. ZUNIGA? MS.
MR. GARZA? AYE, THE MOTION PASSES WITH THE VOTE OF EIGHT TO ONE TO ONE.
I THINK THIS IS ONLY CASE THAT WAS ON THE AGENDA TODAY.
THE NEXT THING ON THE AGENDA IS, UM, LET'S SEE HERE.
UH, MS. CHAIR, I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING BACK INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WELL NOW IT IS
OKAY, EVERYBODY, WE ARE, UH, THE B S B IS, UH, I'M SORRY, WHAT TIME IS IT
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AND THERE WAS NO OFFICIAL BUSINESS DONE IN THE, IN THE, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION.SO WHAT'S NEXT ON THE AGENDA HERE? OH, WE'RE, OUR VISITORS HAVE GONE.
VISITORS, OUR VISITORS ARE NOT HERE ANY LONGER.
NO, THEY, THEY DIDN'T WANNA LISTEN TO 'EM MEAN, CAN I SAY? YEAH, NO,
UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A MINUTE.
IT'S THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
AMIN THOMAS WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
SO NORMALLY WE GO THROUGH AND WE TALK ABOUT THE CANDIDATES, OR NOT THE CANDIDATES, I'M SORRY, ON THE FORMAL BOARD MEMBERS.
UH, IF THEY'RE HERE, WE INVITED THEM, UH, TO RECEIVE, UH, A CERTIFICATE FROM US.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE SAMPLE HERE, I GUESS.
DO YOU HAVE THEM HERE? UH, WE JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THEIR SERVICE.
THEY, THEY HELPED US AND THEY WERE ON THE BOARD.
UM, THEY'VE DONE AWESOME JOB LIKE YOU GUYS ARE DOING AND KEEP DOING.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU GUYS DO.
SO IT WAS, AGAIN, JUST TO BASICALLY TELL THEM THANK YOU AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEM AND BRAG ABOUT THEIR SERVICE, BUT, UM, NONE OF THEM, UM, DECIDED TO SHOW UP.
AGAIN, I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU GUYS DO FOR US.
UM, IT'S A TREMENDOUS WORK AND I KNOW IT'S HARD SOMETIMES.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU GET CITIZENS, OWNERS, OCCUPANTS, TENANTS, AND I KNOW YOU WANNA DO THE RIGHT THING AND I, I FEEL EVERY TIME YOU GUYS DO THE RIGHT THING, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
ALRIGHT, THE, THE NEXT TOPIC I HAVE IS JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME NUMBERS.
UM, BASICALLY OUR PERFORMANCE SO FAR THIS YEAR, OR I'M SORRY, UH, YEAH, FY 2022.
SO THE GOOD NEWS IS, UM, WE ARE DOING A LOT BETTER THAN LAST YEAR.
IF YOU REMEMBER LAST YEAR I SHOWED YOU THE NUMBERS ON OUR PERFORMANCE AND, UH, WE WERE NOT DOING REALLY WELL, BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF REASONS.
WE HAD 40% OF OUR, UH, MANPOWER WORKING ON EMERGENCY DECLARATION ENFORCEMENT, UH, TASK BASICALLY THAT WE WERE ASSIGNED BY THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER.
SO COMPARED LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR, WE ARE, WE ARE KIND OF BACK ON TRACK.
SO, UM, OUR GOAL IS TO GET TO TIER ONE, UH, CALLS, UH, WITHIN TWO DAYS.
WE ARE AT THREE DAYS RIGHT NOW, SO WE ARE ALMOST WHERE WE SHOULD BE.
UH, TIER TWO, WE ARE REQUIRED TO GET THERE WITHIN THREE BUSINESS DAYS AND WE ARE ACTUALLY AT THREE BUSINESS DAYS, WHICH IS AWESOME.
UH, THE PROACTIVENESS FOR TIER ONE AND TWO, OUR GOAL IS, UH, 65% AND AGAIN, WE ARE AT 56%.
WE ARE GETTING VERY CLOSE TO THAT.
COMPARED TO LAST YEAR WE WERE AT 35%.
THE COMPLIANCE RATE FOR TIER ONE AND TWO, WE NEED TO GET 80% OF THE CASES CLOSED AND COMPLETED WITHIN 45 DAYS.
WE STILL NEED TO WORK ON THAT TO GET IT UP TO THE 80%.
THE GRAFFITI TEAM IS DOING WELL.
UH, WE MANAGED TO GET 15,289 SITES TAKEN CARE OF ABATED, AND OUR RESPONSE TIME IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
SO WE ARE AT FOUR DAYS RIGHT NOW.
UM, LAST YEAR WE WERE AT ONE DAY.
UH, THE REASON FOR THAT, UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF VACANCIES.
THE GRAFFITI TEAM CONSISTS OF 19 MEMBERS.
UM, ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO WE HAD ABOUT EIGHT OR NINE VACANCIES WITH THAT TEAM.
NOW WE GOT THOSE POSITIONS FILLED AND HOPEFULLY WE GET BACK ON TRACK.
WE STILL HAVE ANOTHER SIX MONTHS THIS FISCAL YEAR, SO I BELIEVE WE GONNA CATCH UP AND WE WILL BE OVERALL AT THE END OF THE YEAR BELOW THE THREE DAYS.
SO AGAIN, IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
IF I DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES, MANPOWER, I MEAN, WE CAN DO SO MUCH, WE CAN DO OVERTIME, BUT IT DOESN'T COVER 50% OF THE TEAM.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT PERFORMANCE? ALRIGHT, YOU GUYS ARE QUIET TODAY.
MAYBE AFTER THAT LONG EXECUTIVE SESSION, SO THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD.
UH, AMIN, LET ME ASK YOU THIS, AND I KNOW IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THERE.
WHEN YOU GUYS SET THESE GOALS, IS IT FOR YEAR TO YEAR OR IS IT THERE, IS THERE A SHORT, MEDIUM AND LONG TERM? NO, THOSE GOALS ARE SET BASICALLY AND APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
IT'S, IT'S NORMALLY FIXED UNLESS COUNCIL DECIDES TO CHANGE IT.
SO IT'S KINDA LIKE A BUDGET YEAR BY YEAR THING.
BECAUSE I WAS GONNA SAY IF IT'S SET LIKE SHORT, MEDIUM, AND LONG TERMS AND YOU WANNA GET FIVE YEARS OUT X BUT YOU CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S SET BY YEAR, RIGHT? UH, CORRECT.
SO JUST, BUT EXAMPLE, LIKE TWO, THREE YEARS AGO, OUR
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UH, PROACTIVE RATE WAS 50% THAT WAS REQUIRED.UH, COUNCIL DECIDED TO BRING IT UP TO 65%.
SO AGAIN, IT DEPENDS ON COUNCIL.
EVERY YEAR WE SHOW THEM OUR NUMBERS AND WE SHOW THEM WHERE WE STAND AND THEY MIGHT DECIDE TO BRING IT UP OR LOWER IT, BUT IN GENERAL IT STAYS THE SAME FOR, FOR SOME TIME.
AND THE REASON I WAS JUST GONNA ASK THAT IS BECAUSE IF IT IS LIKE THAT, I KNOW YOU GUYS DEEP DIVE INTO NUMBERS, IS IT BENEFICIAL IN ONE AREA VERSUS YEAR TO YEAR OR DO YOU GO BACK LIKE FIVE YEARS TO SEE IF IT'S YOU NEED TO FLUCTUATE OR NOT? WE, WE, WE DO LOOK AT NUMBERS.
WE GO BACK FIVE YEARS EVERY TIME WE GO TO THE BUDGET.
UH, AND WE DO LOOK AT THAT DEPENDING, AGAIN, WE, WE ANALYZE THOSE, UH, THE, THE RESULTS TO SEE IS THAT AN ISSUE WITH UH, CAN WE INCREASE IT? NORMALLY WE ALWAYS LOOK TO INCREASE ACTUALLY OUR GOAL.
UH, BUT AGAIN, THE LAST YEAR OR YEAR AND A HALF, UH, WE DID NOT MEET THE GOAL DUE TO, AGAIN, A LOT OF REASONS.
I MEAN, PANDEMIC AND THE EMERGENCY DECLARATION.
SO WE DID NOT CHANGE THOSE NUMBERS.
THE LAST TWO YEARS THEY STAYED THE SAME.
UH, AGAIN, WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS THIS YEAR AND THAT, THAT'S WHY I ASKED THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING BASED OFF JUST LAST TWO YEARS.
YOU NEED TO GO FOR, SO IF YOU'RE GOING FOR NEXT YEAR, YOU BUMPING IT BY 10% OR ARE YOU GONNA LEAVE IT? WELL AGAIN, I, I DO NOT KNOW AT THIS POINT UNTIL WE GO TO BUDGET.
I WOULD ONLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO, YOU'RE DOING GREAT.
I THINK YOU'RE DOING GOOD GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
UH, WE, WE DO SPEND A LOT OF TIME AND I KNOW THAT'S REQUIRED LEGALLY AND UM, BUT SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO PUSH, WE HAVE TO EDUCATE.
I'VE, I'VE ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE JUST, THEY DON'T KNOW AND THEY, THEY, WE NEED TO TEACH THIS AND, AND TEACH EACH OTHER.
UM, AND FOR THAT I THINK YOU DESERVE AND APPLAUD AND IT'S DIFFICULT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF.
AND I MEAN, JUST TO CHIME IN A LITTLE BIT, UM, YEAH, I, I'VE BEEN GONE FROM SAN LIFELONG RESIDENT BORN HERE IN SAN ANTONIO AND, UH, WAS GONE TO DC FOR, FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND COMING BACK REALLY IS NOTICEABLE HOW CLEANED UP THE CITY IS REGARDING THE GRAFFITI.
SO I, I HAVE TO REALLY ECHO HOW WELL OF A JOB THAT THAT HAS BEEN.
UH, GONNA TALK ABOUT, UH, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.
AS, AS YOU KNOW, EVERY THREE YEARS WE DO ADOPT THE NEW CODES AND WE TRY TO STAY ON TOP OF IT.
SO I JUST HAVE A QUICK PRESENTATION.
IT DOES HAVE THE DATE ON IT AS APRIL 12TH AND IT SAYS COMMUNITY MEETING.
SO, UH, WE JUST DID A COMMUNITY MEETING, PUBLIC MEETING, UH, ON THE 12TH, UH, TO START THAT PROCESS.
AND I JUST WANNA PRESENT THE SAME INFORMATION TO YOU SO YOU KNOW WHERE WE STAND AND WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND OBVIOUSLY AGAIN, I NEED YOUR HELP TO, UH, EITHER RECOMMEND SOMEBODY FROM THE BOARD TO BE ON THIS SUBCOMMITTEE OR MAYBE IF EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE ON IT, YOU'RE WELCOME TO.
BUT LET ME GO THROUGH THE PROCESS REAL QUICK.
SO JUST WHY WE ARE HERE, BASICALLY, UH, AGAIN, THE BRIEF DISCUSSION HERE IS TO TALK ABOUT THE 2021 PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.
AS I MENTIONED, THE I C C, THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL, EVERY THREE YEARS THEY PUBLISH NEW CODES AND WE, AS THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, WE WANT TO ALWAYS STAY ON TOP OF IT AND STAY ON CURRENT CODES FOR A LOT OF REASONS.
OB OBVIOUSLY, ONE IS TO STAY WITH THE CURRENT CODE, THE INTERNATIONAL CODE FOR, UH, LIFE SAFETY REASONS AS WELL.
BECAUSE EVERY THREE YEARS WHEN THEY ADOPT THE NEW CODE, ONE OF THE BIGGEST ITEMS FOR CHANGES IN THE CODE IS LIFE SAFETY.
THEY REVIEW ALL THE CODES AND THEY DECIDE TO MODIFY THEM OR CHANGE THEM, UH, DUE TO LIFE SAFETY ITEMS. SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE ARE ADOPTING THE MOST SAFEST CODES EVERY TIME, AND THAT'S WHY WE WANNA STAY ON TOP OF IT.
AND OBVIOUSLY THE STATE SOMETIMES, UM, NOT ON REGULAR BASIS, BUT THEY DO ADOPT NEWER CODES AS THEY COME.
SOMETIMES THEY SKIP A CODE CYCLE AND THEN THEY GO JUMP TO THE NEXT ONE.
SO AGAIN, WE WANNA STAY ON TOP OF IT.
WE, WE WANNA MATCH THE STATE OR ACTUALLY BE BETTER.
SO WE ALWAYS WANNA MAINTAIN THAT HIGH LEVEL OF, UH, LIFE SAFETY.
SO NORMALLY WHAT WE DO IS WE, UH, GET THE INTERNATIONAL CODE, THE I P M C, BASICALLY INTERNATIONAL, UM,
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PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE FROM I C C.AND WE DO PAY, UH, TO TAKE THE RIGHT, WE, WE BUY, BUY THE BOOK BASICALLY, AND WE PAY TO, UH, BE ALLOWED TO MODIFY IT AND CHANGE IT TO OUR CODE.
AND AS YOU GUYS KNOW, WE USE SS A P M C, SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, WHICH AS I SAID, IT'S BASED ON THE INTERNATIONAL CODE AND IT UTILIZES MOST OF THAT CODE.
SOME OF YOU BEEN ON THOSE CODE CYCLES AND REVIEWED THE CODE WITH US.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT CHANGES WE DID.
UM, THE REASON FOR THOSE CHANGES IS WHEN THE CODE IS WRITTEN FOR INTERNATIONAL USE.
IT'S VERY GENERIC AND I KNOW EVERY CITY'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND USES, UH, DIFFERENT THINGS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE SAFE.
SO WE TWEAK THAT CODE A LITTLE BIT TO MATCH OUR CITY TO MAKE SURE IT DOES FIT OUR NEED HERE.
AND THEN, AS I SAID, WE CANNOT CHANGE THE CODE, OBVIOUSLY FROM WHAT'S PUBLISHED UNLESS WE BUY THE RIGHTS TO PUBLISH IT.
SO AS I SAID, WE BUY THE RIGHTS AND WE CREATE OUR OWN BOOK, WHICH IS PROBABLY 90% IS FROM THE INTERNATIONAL CODE.
UH, AND THEN WE PUBLISH OUR BOOK JUST FOR CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND THE CITIZENS OBVIOUSLY.
SO THE OTHER THING WE ARE WORKING ON THIS YEAR IS WE ARE WORKING ON THE U D C UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, UH, UPDATES.
AND WE ARE REVIEWING ALL THE I C C CODES, THE BUILDING FIRE, MECHANICAL PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL ENERGY CODE, THE POOL AND SPARK CODE.
SO ALL THE CODES ARE BEING ACTUALLY REVIEWED RIGHT NOW AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, AND ON TOP OF THAT, WE ARE WORKING ON THE SIGN CODE AS WELL.
ALL THE CODES HAPPEN TO BE THE SAME YEAR.
UH, ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THAT IS SOME OF THESE CODES SHOULD HAVE BEEN REVIEWED LAST YEAR IN 2020.
NORMALLY WE REVIEW IT, 2020 TO PUBLISH IN 2021 AND ADOPT.
BUT DUE TO THE PANDEMIC, WE KIND OF PUT EVERYTHING ON HOLD TALKING ABOUT CODES AND REVIEWING IT.
AGAIN, FOR THOSE WHO'VE BEEN ON IT ALREADY, IT'S REALLY HARD TO DO IT ON A WEBEX 'CAUSE THERE IS DISCUSSION NEGOTIATION.
YOU'RE GONNA GO BACK AND FORTH.
IT'S A LOT BETTER IF YOU'RE IN PERSON, SITTING IN A ROOM AND JUST LOOKING AT THE SAME CODE, TALKING ABOUT IT LINE BY LINE, WORD BY WORD.
SO WE DIDN'T WANNA DO IT ON WEBEX AND WE WERE WAITING TILL WE CAN START THAT PROCESS.
AND AGAIN, THIS YEAR, BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR, WE STARTED HAVING PUBLIC MEETINGS.
UM, PROBABLY NOT AS NORMAL AS BEFORE, BUT, YOU KNOW, TO A GOOD LEVEL WHERE WE CAN START ALL THESE PROCESSES.
AND THAT'S WHY WE, WE STARTED AGAIN THIS YEAR WITH ALL THESE CODES.
IT JUST HAPPENED, ALL OF THEM NOW, UH, HAPPENING THE SAME YEAR.
SO AGAIN, QUICK BACKGROUND ON THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.
WE HAD THE CODE LONG TIME AGO.
UH, IN 2011, THERE WAS A MAJOR CHANGE.
THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE TIMES WHEN WE TOOK THE INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE AND WE STARTED USING THAT.
AND SINCE THEN, EVERY THREE YEARS, WE AGAIN ADOPT THE NEW CODE, AS I SAID.
UM, SO AGAIN, WE ARE, WE, WE ARE ONE YEAR BEHIND NOW JUST DUE TO THE PANDEMIC.
BUT AGAIN, WE WANT TO GET BACK ON TRACK AND HOPEFULLY ADOPT THE 2021.
AND THEN WHEN THE 2024 CODE COMES OUT AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO ADOPT THAT ON TIME AND GET BACK ON THAT CYCLE.
UH, WE ARE ANTICIPATING ABOUT FIVE MEETINGS.
UM, THE LAST COUPLE OF, UH, CODE CYCLES WHEN WE DID THIS, IT WAS ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE MEETINGS.
SO WE'RE JUST GONNA SCHEDULE FIVE MEETINGS RIGHT NOW.
IF OBVIOUSLY WE NEED MORE TIME TO DISCUSS CERTAIN ITEMS, WE, WE DON'T MIND ADDING MORE, BUT THAT GIVES YOU THE EXPECTATION IF YOU DECIDE TO VOLUNTEER TO BE ON THAT SUBCOMMITTEE.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S ABOUT FIVE MEETINGS, MIGHT BE FOUR MEETINGS MIGHT BE SIX, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T THINK GONNA BE THAT FAR OFF FROM, YOU KNOW, FOUR TO FIVE MEETINGS.
ALRIGHT, SO THIS IS, UH, JUST A QUICK, UH, WEBPAGE THAT WE CREATED.
SO WE CREATED A, A WEBPAGE FOR ALL THE CODES WE ARE WORKING ON.
AND IT'S KIND OF A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE, BUT IF YOU GO TO OUR WEBSITE, SAN ANTONIO.GOV/DSD, UH, YOU'RE GONNA FIND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PAGE A SCROLLING PAGE WITH ALL THE CODES IN IT.
IF YOU CLICK ON THAT, IT'S GONNA TAKE YOU TO THIS, UH, LINK OR THIS PAGE.
AND THERE'S A BUNCH OF TABS ON TOP, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THEM IS U D C ONE IS THE I C C CODES, THE BUILDING RELATED CODES.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE SIGN CODE, AND YOU HAVE THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.
SO AGAIN, ALL THE INFORMATION THAT YOU GONNA NEED IS PHYSICALLY HERE.
IT GIVES YOU A SMALL DESCRIPTION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THAT CODE, SIMILAR TO WHAT I DESCRIBED EARLIER.
AND THEN THERE IS LIKE THREE BUTTONS ON THE BOTTOM.
IF YOU CLICK ON THAT, IT'S GONNA GIVE YOU LIKE A ONE PAGER, A FACT SHEET, JUST TELLING YOU THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING, HERE'S THE BACKGROUND AND GIVES YOU TIMETABLE.
IF YOU CLICK ON THAT, IT GIVES YOU EXACTLY THOSE FIVE MEETINGS THAT WE ALREADY PUT ON THE CALENDAR.
THEY'RE SCHEDULED RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE GONNA BE IN THIS ROOM.
UH, ALL THOSE MEETINGS WILL BE RECORDED AND
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THEY WILL BE LIVE STREAMED.AND THEY'RE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOT HIDING ANYTHING FOR TRANSPARENCY REASONS.
WE WANT EVERYBODY TO BE WELCOMED AND THEY CAN DISCUSS THE CODE WITH US.
THE LAST TAB IS BASICALLY TRACKING THE CHANGES OR PROGRESS.
IF YOU CLICK ON THAT, IT'S GONNA TAKE YOU TO ALLOCATION WHERE YOU CAN PUT YOUR NAME, PUT WHAT CODE SECTION YOU WANNA CHANGE, OR MODIFY OR AGREE OR DISAGREE ON OR DELETE ANYTHING.
AND THEN AN AREA WHERE YOU CAN PUT YOUR COMMENTS AND EXPLAIN WHAT YOU WANT.
SO THIS IS OPEN AGAIN FOR YOU GUYS OR FOR THE PUBLIC.
I WANNA CHANGE SECTION 3 0 1 0.1.
AND I WANTED TO READ THIS, AND THIS IS WHY I WANTED TO, TO READ THAT WAY.
ANY INFORMATION WE GATHER, WE'RE GONNA BRING TO THAT SUBCOMMITTEE AND PRESENT THAT TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND GET THEIR OPINION ABOUT THAT AND GET THEIR FINAL RECOMMENDATION.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY AFTER THE SUBCOMMITTEE FINALIZE EVERYTHING, WE WILL BRING IT TO YOU GUYS AS THE FULL BOARD AND PRESENT THOSE CHANGES OR MODIFICATIONS AND GET YOUR, UH, BLESSING.
AND THEN FROM THERE WE GO TO COUNCIL.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S JUST THE PROCESS OVERALL.
NEXT, THIS IS JUST A, A LOCATION WHERE, AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I MEAN, YOU KNOW HOW TO GET HOLD OF US.
AS I SAID, THIS WAS MORE FOR THE PUBLIC.
YOU CAN CALL US, EMAIL US ANYTIME YOU KNOW HOW TO GET HOLD OF US.
BUT FOR THE PUBLIC, ANYBODY, IF YOU HAVE ANYBODY IN YOUR COMMUNITY OR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY ASK YOU, HEY, I WANNA SUBMIT SOMETHING, JUST GIVE THEM THAT EMAIL ADDRESS OR GIVE THEM THE LINK THAT I SHOWED YOU.
AND THEY CAN GO ONLINE AND JUST SUBMIT WHAT THEY WANT, YOU KNOW, CHANGES OR MODIFICATIONS.
BUT THE EMAIL ADDRESS THAT WE HAVE SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS IS SA CODE@SANANTONIO.GOV.
SO AGAIN, THEY CAN EMAIL US QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS IN REGARDS TO THE CODE.
PLEASE DON'T GIVE IT TO PEOPLE TO SAY, I WANNA REPORT THIS VIOLATION.
OKAY, I THINK THAT'S IT BASICALLY FOR THE OVERALL CONCEPT.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCESS ITSELF? I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION.
I JUST, UH, WANNA OFFER MY, UH, ASSISTANCE ON THE COMMITTEE IF YOU STILL NEED HELP.
THAT, THAT WILL BE MY NEXT QUESTION.
SO THE RULES FOR THE B SS B BOARD BASICALLY, UH, STATES THAT YOU AS A BOARD CAN BE COMPLETELY ON IT.
THE FULL BOARD CAN BE ON THIS TASK, OR YOU CAN CREATE AS A CHAIR, YOU CAN CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE MINIMUM FOUR PEOPLE.
SO FOUR PLUS MEMBERS NEED TO BE ON THAT, UH, SUBCOMMITTEE.
SO AGAIN, IT COULD BE FOUR, IT COULD BE ALL 14, UH, OR ANY, ANYTHING IN BETWEEN.
SO YES, I, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AT LEAST FOUR MEMBERS, UH, IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER OR MORE AS I SAID, LIKE, ALRIGHT, SO PROBABLY TO MAKE IT EASIER, TO MAKE IT EASIER, MAYBE WE CAN DO LIKE A ROLL CALL AND JUST SAY, I, IF YOU WANNA BE ON IT OR SAY NO, IF YOU DON'T WANNA BE ON THAT.
AND WE WILL JUST MARK THAT DOWN BECAUSE WE NEED TO PUBLISH THAT AND SAY, THIS IS THE COMMITTEE THAT IS REVIEWING, UH, THE CODE.
JUDY, CAN YOU GIVE US A ROLL CALL? I'M SORRY.
SO IT'LL BE FIVE MEETINGS OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR, OVER A COURSE OF A COUPLE OF MONTHS.
SO WE, WE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA TECHNICALLY START.
WHAT'S THE, ANYBODY KNOWS THE FIRST MEETING? APRIL 9TH, APRIL 29 IS THE FIRST MEETING, AND WE SHOULD, APRIL 29 IS THE FIRST ONE.
AND WE NEED TO WRAP UP, LET'S SAY IN LIKE TWO MONTHS.
SO IT'S ROUGHLY EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS A MEETING? NO, NO, IT'S NOT.
BUT I MEAN, YEAH, HOPEFULLY YOU CAN ATTEND THE MAJORITY OF THEM IF YOU DECIDE TO, TO BE ON IT.
IF YOU KNOW YOU CANNOT ATTEND ANY, PROBABLY JUST SAY NO AT THIS POINT.
DO WE, CAN WE GO TO THE WEBSITE AND PULL THOSE DATES? MAYBE IF YOU SEE THE DATES, YOU WILL DECIDE AT THAT POINT.
THAT HELPS YOU DECIDE IF YOU'RE, YOU'RE AVAILABLE ON THOSE DATES.
LET, LET'S JUST PULL THAT REAL QUICK.
WHAT TIME IS THE FIRST? WHAT TIME? WHAT TIME IS THE FIRST ONE? UM, I, I DON'T KNOW.
I HAVE ALL THESE OTHER ONES IN MY MIND, BUT WE'LL PULL IT RIGHT NOW.
BUT THEN, YEAH, IF YOU NEED ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, WE CAN PROVIDE THAT HERE AND THEN CLICK ON CALENDAR AND POP UP HERE.
OKAY, SO IT SHOWS HERE, THOSE ARE THE DATES.
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APRIL 29 AT 1:00 PM THEN WE HAVE MAY 13 AT 1:00 PM AS WELL.MAY 27 AT 1:00 PM JUNE 3RD, 1:00 PM AND JUNE 10TH AT ONE.
SO ALL OF THEM START AT ONE? YES.
THEY'RE ALL AT 1:00 PM ACTUALLY IN THIS ROOM, IN THE BOARDROOM.
AND AGAIN, THE DATES ARE APRIL 29, MAY 13, MAY 27TH, JUNE 3RD, AND JUNE 10TH.
AND, AND SINCE IT'S AFTERNOON, THERE'S NO LUNCH.
I, I'M, I'M NOT GONNA, I'M NOT GONNA MAKE COMMENT ON THAT.
DO YOU WANNA GIVE US A, A ROLL CALL WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE? SEE WHO CAN SAY YES AND NAY.
I, I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
'CAUSE I HAVE OTHER COMMITMENTS, BUT I, I WANT TO BE INVOLVED OR STAY IN TUNE.
THAT'S ALL I WELL, YOU CAN STILL SAY YES, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE, THIS ISN'T GOING AGAINST YOUR RECORD ON THE BOARD.
THIS IS A SUPPLE, THIS IS EXTRA DUTY.
AND THEN YOU MAKE WHAT YOU MAKE.
IT, IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE PRESSURING YOU.
ROBERT
IT SEEMS YOU ARE OVERRULED, ROBERT.
SO, I MEAN, JUST MOVE RIDING ALONG WITH A ROLL CALL.
BUT I CAN'T CHECK THESE DATES UNTIL I GET MY PHONE, WHICH, ANYWAY.
ON THAT PHONE, HAVE IT WITH ME OFFICIALLY.
THAT'S THE ENTIRE, UM, MEMBERS WE HAVE TODAY.
UH, JUST THE FINAL THING ON THAT BEFORE I WRAP UP.
UM, SO AGAIN, JUST FOR TRANSPARENCY AND TO MAKE SURE AGAIN, WE CAPTURE EVERYBODY'S OPINION, WE ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE FOUR MORE NON-BOARD MEMBERS ON THAT, UH, COMMITTEE.
SO NORMALLY THE FIRST MEETING ON THE 29TH, OBVIOUSLY IF ALL OF YOU GONNA BE THERE OR WHOEVER CAN MAKE IT, UH, STEP ONE WILL BE TO APPOINT, WELL, I DON'T KNOW.
NOW IF IT'S THE FULL BOARD, DO I NEED TO APPOINT CHAIR? BECAUSE NORMALLY IF IT'S A SUBCOMMITTEE, WE NEED TO APPOINT A CHAIR FOR THAT SUBCOMMITTEE.
UH, AT, AT THE, UH, FIRST MEETING.
THEY CAN CHOOSE THE CHAIR AT THAT POINT.
SINCE THE FULL BOARD WILL BE PRESENT, UH, AT SOME, IF NOT ALL, THEN UH, IT IS, UH, YOU'RE THERE AS A B S B SUBCOMMITTEE, NOT AS OKAY.
A B S B MEETING TO TRANSACT HEARING BUSINESS.
SO, UH, WELL, US WOMEN ARE THE BEST.
UM, I WOULD, UH, RECOMMEND, UH, SOMEBODY DIFFERENT THAN EVELYN OR LENCIA TO SERVE AS THE CHAIR FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
AND Y'ALL THINK ABOUT THAT ALONG WITH THE FOUR NON-MEMBERS.
WELL, WELL, COLONEL NELSON WILL STATED HE WANTED TO BE THE CHAIR OF THAT AND IN, IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM.
THE COLONEL SAID IT OVER THERE.
HIGHEST RANKING MILITARY OFFICIAL.
THAT MAY BE OVERPOWERING, BUT HE'S RETIRED.
SHE'S ON, SHE'S AT DUTY RIGHT NOW.
SO SHE WOULD ACTUALLY BE THE CHAIR, SAID, UH, ONCE A SOLDIER, ALWAYS A SOLDIER.
ALRIGHT, SO JUST GET IT BACK ON TRACK.
SO THANK YOU MR. NELSON FOR VOLUNTEERING.
SO NO, DEFINITELY THE FIRST MEETING WE WILL HAVE, OBVIOUSLY WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO HAVE A CHAIR AND A VICE CHAIR.
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AGAIN, LIKE CITIZENS OR ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO BE ON IT AS THE FOUR NON-MEMBERS, YOU GUYS NEED TO AGREE ON WHOEVER GONNA BE ON THAT, UH, COMMITTEE.SO IF WE GET 10 VOLUNTEERS, YOU MIGHT PICK FOUR OUT OF THEM.
IF WE ONLY GET FOUR OR LESS, THEN YOU MIGHT JUST PICK THOSE PEOPLE ON THE FIRST ONE.
ARE WE, ARE THE NON-BOARD MEMBERS, ARE THEY ALREADY GONNA BE HERE ON THE MEETING OR ARE THEY GONNA YES, THAT THEY, THEY WILL BE HERE THAT, THAT FIRST MEETING, UH, APRIL 29 IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY CAN BE HERE.
AND WE WILL OPEN IT UP TO ANYBODY WHO'S HERE TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE.
SO THE FIRST MEETING'S BASICALLY A CLERICAL KIND OF ADMINISTRATIVE MEETING CALLED AN ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING.
AND WE'RE PICKING BASICALLY OUT OF THE CROWD WHO'S WASN'T ON THE BOARD.
IS THAT MINE? IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.
SO IF WE DON'T HAVE FOUR PEOPLE SHOW UP, WHAT HAPPENS? YOU, WE, WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE FOUR PEOPLE.
WE CAN'T, WE CAN HAVE, BUT IT'S OPEN UP TO FOUR PEOPLE.
SO IF WE HAVE NOBODY ON IT, THAT'S TOTALLY FINE.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, SO THAT MEETING, WE WILL DO THESE THINGS, ADMIN, I GUESS IF YOU WANNA CALL IT OR ORGANIZATION.
BUT IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT, IN THAT MEETING, WE'RE GONNA START DIGGING INTO THE CODE.
I MEAN, THAT'S ONE OF THE MEETINGS.
I'M NOT GONNA HAVE THREE HOURS JUST TO GO THROUGH ORG, RIGHT? WE NOT, WE, WE NEED TO GET IT MOVING AND KEEP GOING AND DIG INTO THE CODE THAT DAY.
ALL OF YOU ARE WILLING AND WANT TO BE ON THAT, UH, SUBCOMMITTEE.
AGAIN, IF YOU CANNOT MAKE IT, DON'T FEEL BAD.
ALRIGHT, ANY, ANY QUESTIONS, UH, ABOUT THE PROCESS, THE SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, ANYTHING? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
TURN IT OVER TO THE NEXT PERSON.
I DON'T KNOW WHO THE, WHO'S AFTER ME LEGAL.
OKAY, UH, FOR THE RECORD, SAVITA RYE, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND I BELIEVE I HAVE THE NEXT THREE PRESENTATIONS,
UH, I'M GONNA, UH, SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME ON THE ROBERTS RULES AND ON THE ETHICS PRESENTATION, BUT KIND OF FLY THROUGH THE DART BECAUSE I JUST GAVE Y'ALL A PRESENTATION, MOST OF YOU.
AND FOR THE NEW ONES, UH, I'M GONNA FLY THROUGH IT.
BUT, UH, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME OR ERIC, UH, ABOUT ANY SPECIFICS ON DART.
SO WITH ROBERT'S RULES, UM, WE FOLLOW ROBERT'S RULES AS GUIDELINES.
UH, WE, UH, ARE NOT REQUIRED TO FOLLOW IT TO A T.
IF WE FOLLOWED IT TO A T, NO BUSINESS WOULD GET DONE.
WHAT CONTROLS IN A MEETING ARE THE PROCEDURES THAT WE OUTLINE IN OUR BYLAWS, POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, WHICH IS THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
AND THE BOARD ITSELF IS THE ONE WHO, UM, DETERMINES THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
SO IF THERE'S A CONFLICT BETWEEN A POLICY Y'ALL HAVE AND ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, THE POLICIES WILL PROCEED.
THE PURPOSE OF ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, AND AS I I'VE TOLD, UH, MANY OF YOU, I'M GIVING AWAY MY AGE.
UH, LET'S SEE, I STARTED ADVISING BOARDS AT 21.
SO I'VE BEEN DOING THIS NOW FOR 34 YEARS, ADVISING BOARDS.
UH, I, I, I DO KNOW ROBERT'S RULES, UH, BACKWARDS AND FORWARDS.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M THE FIRST ONE TO TELL YOU, WE DO NOT FOLLOW IT STRICTLY, AND WE SHOULD NEVER FOLLOW IT STRICTLY.
SO, WITH ROBERT'S RULES AND THE POLICY OF THIS BOARD, UH, THE CHAIR IS THE PERSON WHO'S IN CONTROL OF THE MEETING.
UH, THE CHAIR PROVIDES THE LEADERSHIP FOR THE GROUP.
THE CHAIR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ENSURING THAT THERE'S AN ORDERLY PROCESS, AND THAT THE PROCESS IS ABIDED BY ENSURING THAT EVERYONE
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PARTICIPATES.EVERYONE HAS A CHANCE ON THE BOARD WHO WISHES TO SPEAK, TO SPEAK, BUT IT'S ALSO THE CHAIR'S DUTY TO KEEP ORDER.
THAT MEANS IF ANYBODY ON THE BOARD GOES OFF TOPIC, THE CHAIR CAN SAY, OKAY, WE'RE MOVING ON.
UH, THE CHAIR IS ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE AT THE HEARING.
IF ANYONE BECOMES UNRULY, DISORDERLY, DISRESPECTFUL, UH, IT IS A CHAIR'S DUTY TO ASK OR TO MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER THAT PERSON SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE PREMISES.
UH, WE'VE ONLY IN THE 16 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, UH, WE'VE HAD IT HAPPEN THREE TIMES.
UM, ONE, UNFORTUNATELY, UH, AS Y'ALL KNOW, AND WHEN THE CHAIR READS THE STATEMENT, IT IS AN ABSOLUTE PROHIBITION THAT ANY PERSON CAN COME INTO A B S B HEARING AND CONDUCT BUSINESS.
AND THAT IS, UM, UNFORTUNATELY, WE USED TO HAVE A LOT OF PROPERTY DEVELOPERS THAT WOULD COME IN AND START HANDING OUT BUSINESS CARDS AS SOON AS THE BOARD ISSUED A DEMOLITION ORDER.
THAT'S, UH, PRIMARILY WHY THE REASON WAS IMPLEMENTED.
THEN THE SECOND SITUATION, UNFORTUNATELY, UM, AN ATTORNEY CAME IN, UH, SAT IN THE HEARING AND PROCEEDED TO PASS OUT HIS CARDS TO EVERYBODY WHO RECEIVED A DEMOLITION ORDER, AND, UH, TOLD THEM THAT HE'S THE BEST AT FIGHTING THE CITY AND WINNING.
UH, HE, HE SHALL REMAIN UNNAMED, BUT, UH, OKAY, I WON'T SAY IT ON THE RECORD.
AND THEN, UM, UH, THE THIRD PERSON, UM, IS ANOTHER PERSON, VERY FAMILIAR, UH, WITH THE CITY.
THE BOARD SAID, UH, HE WAS ASKED TO LEAVE, UH, FEIGNED A HEART ATTACK.
SAW, UH, 'CAUSE HE REFUSED TO LEAVE.
HE WAS ABOUT TO BE ARRESTED FOR TRESPASS, FEIGNED A HEART ATTACK SO HE COULD, UH, GET OUT OF THAT.
SO THAT IS THE, UH, CHAIR'S DUTY.
SO, UH, IF ANY OF Y'ALL, IF FOR HE NEVER WILL, BUT IF ANYONE, UH, STARTS DISRESPECTING ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, THE CHAIR HAS EVERY RIGHT TO, UH, TELL YOU TO LEAVE.
SO THE CHAIR IS ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE.
WELL, I'VE NOTICED WE DON'T HAVE, UH, UH, UH, SECURITY ANYMORE.
THINGS HAVE CALMED DOWN FOR A WHILE THERE.
UM, THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS, BUT, UH, THEY'VE GOT US COVERED, ADAM.
I MEAN, ALICE WILL TAKE 'EM DOWN, YOU KNOW, AS A NEW, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER.
SO, UH, THAT IS THE DUTY OF THE CHAIR, THOUGH.
THE RULES OF PROCEDURE THAT, AS I SAID, STARTING POINT, SHOULD BE WELL UNDERSTOOD BY THE CHAIR.
UH, EVERYBODY ON THIS BOARD, UH, ONCE YOU'VE BEEN TO A FEW MEETINGS, YOU'LL BE WELL VERSED IN ROBERT'S RULES.
UH, THE PURPOSE OF ROBERT'S RULES, IT'S TO ALLOW EVERYONE TO HAVE THEIR SAY, BUT TO COM, UH, HAVE ORDER IN THE HOUSE.
AND WE'VE ALL LIVED THROUGH COVID AND THE INSANE SCHOOL BOARD HEARINGS, UH, WHERE PEOPLE WERE JUST GOING CRAZY.
UM, ROBERT'S RULES ARE WHAT ALLOWED FOR THE REMOVAL OF PERSONS WHO BECAME SO DISORDERLY, MADE, PHYSICAL THREATS, WHATEVER.
UH, NEXT ONE, UH, BLAH BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
I'M TRY TO SPEED IT UP BECAUSE I LIED TO THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS.
I SAID, WE'RE ALWAYS DONE BY 12
THESE ARE THE MOTIONS THAT YOU ARE GOING TO, UM, UTILIZE THE MOST.
UH, AFTER THE CODE OFFICER HAS PRESENTED, YOU HAVE, UM, YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS THAT WILL HELP YOU IN YOUR
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DECISION.AFTER THE CODE OFFICER, THEN THE OWNER AND THE OWNER HAS UNLIMITED TIME.
AS LONG AS THE OWNER STAYS ON TRACK, AGAIN, IT'S UP TO THE CHAIR.
IF THE CHAIR FEELS THE OWNER IS GETTING OFF TRACK, THE CHAIR CAN CUT THE, UM, OWNER OFF AND THEN ASK, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING RELATED TO THE ISSUE BEFORE YOU, AFTER THAT, AFTER ALL QUESTIONS ARE ASKED, ANY CITIZENS WHO HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, THEN A MOTION HAS TO BE MADE BY A MEMBER OF THE BOARD.
UH, THE CHAIR CANNOT MAKE THE MOTION.
AND THE MOTION STARTS OFF WITH, I MOVE THAT, UH, ALL OF YOU IN YOUR NOTEBOOKS HAVE SAMPLE TEMPLATES OF HOW TO STATE A SAMSA MOTION, UH, AND A DEMOLITION MOTION, AND A SUMMARY ABATEMENT MOTION.
IF A MOTION IS MADE, IT HAS TO BE SECONDED BY A DIFFERENT BOARD MEMBER.
IF A MOTION IS NOT SECONDED, IT AUTOMATICALLY FAILS.
AND ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER, NOT THE SAME ONE NEEDS TO, UH, ISSUE A NEW MOTION AFTER IT'S BEEN SECONDED.
THAT IS WHEN YOU OPEN UP TO DISCUSSION AMONGST YOURSELVES.
UH, WE'VE BEEN, UM, GETTING A LITTLE LOOSE ABOUT THAT.
AND, UH, SOME OF THE MEETINGS OVER THE PAST YEAR WHERE SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS HAVE STARTED, UH, AT THE MOTION STAGE.
SO, KEEP IN MIND, DISCUSSION AMONGST YOURSELVES CAN ONLY HAPPEN AFTER A MOTION HAS BEEN SECONDED.
EVEN IF YOU DISAGREE WITH THE MOTION, BUT YOU WANNA MOVE ON TO THE DISCUSSION STAGE.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU AGREE WITH THE MOTION, IT'S JUST TO ALLOW DISCUSSION.
AT DISCUSSION STAGE, AS A, SAM AND I, UM, HAVE SAID MULTIPLE TIMES, WE ABSOLUTELY LOVE FOR Y'ALL TO HAVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION AS NECESSARY.
A TELL EACH OTHER YOUR OPINIONS ON THE MATTER.
EACH OF YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT EXPERTISE, A DIFFERENT LIFE EXPERIENCE, PROFESSIONAL, PERSONAL, WHAT YOU'VE SEEN IN, IN YOUR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS.
BRING THAT EXPERTISE EVERY DAY WITH YOU.
AGAIN, IT'S UP TO THE CHAIR TO MAKE A DETERMINATION.
OKAY, NOW WE'RE GETTING TO THE REPETITIVE STAGE.
OR, UH, A MEMBER, ANY MEMBER OF THE BOARD CAN SAY, I CALLED THE QUESTION.
AND WHEN YOU SAY, I CALLED THE QUESTION, THAT MEANS LET'S VOTE.
SO, AFTER, UH, THE VOTE IS HAD, IT'S AN UP AND DOWN MOTION PER OUR POLICY AND PROCEDURES MAJ, IT'S BY MAJORITY VOTE.
UH, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, THE CHAIRS MADE THE DECISION THAT ALL VOTES SHOULD BE BY ROLL CALL.
UH, THAT IS VERY, VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE WHEN WE DO GO TO TRIAL, THE ENTIRE PROCEEDING HAS TO BE TRANSCRIBED.
AND SO IT'S REALLY HELPFUL, UH, FOR THE PERSON TRANSCRIBING TO KNOW WHO'S SPEAKING.
AFTER THE VOTE IS TAKEN, THEN THE CHAIR ANNOUNCES, THE AYES HAVE IT, OR THE NAYS HAVE IT.
WHAT HAPPENS IF, UM, WHEN WE HAVE ALL 14, UH, MEMBERS PRESENT AND THE VOTE IS SEVEN, SEVEN, WHEN IT'S TIED, THE MOTION FAILS, YOU CAN TRY AGAIN.
IF THE MOTION FAILS AGAIN, THEN THE POLICY IS THE PROPERTY IS RESET TO THE NEXT AVAILABLE HEARING DATE.
SO WE DON'T WANT, THE REASON FOR THAT IS TWOFOLD.
ONE, WE DON'T WANT TO KEEP WASTING THE BOARD'S TIME ON VOTING ON AN ISSUE THAT APPARENTLY, UH, NECESSITATES ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT MAY SWAY A BOARD MEMBER.
UH, TWO, WE DON'T WANNA KEEP THE PROPERTY OWNERS SITTING HERE FOR THAT LONG.
UH, ACTION HAS TO BE TAKEN ON EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY.
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WHEN A MOTION CONTINUES TO BE TIED, THEN IT'S AUTOMATICALLY RESET.AND AGAIN, IN THE 16 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, UH, IT'S HAPPENED ONCE.
SO, BUT WITH 14 MEMBERS, IT CAN HAPPEN.
UH, THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF, UH, THE PANELS ARE SEVEN.
AND SO GENERALLY WE WILL NOT HAVE THAT SITUATION, BUT IT CAN HAPPEN.
WITH, UH, MEMBERS CHANGING THEIR VOTES, ONCE THE ROLL CALL VOTE IS MADE, AND YOU'VE VOTED BEFORE THE CHAIR, IN THIS INSTANCE, EVELYN, BEFORE EVELYN ANNOUNCES THE VOTE, YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR VOTE.
YOU CANNOT CHANGE YOUR VOTE AFTER THE VOTE HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED, UNLESS A VOTE IS TAKEN OF THE ENTIRE MEMBERSHIP PRESENT ON THE PANEL, AND THE ENTIRE PANEL AGREES TO ALLOW THAT MEMBER TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE, IT'S NEVER HAPPENED.
AND IN THE, WHATEVER IT WAS, 34 YEARS I'VE BEEN DOING THIS, I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT HAPPEN, BUT IT'S AN OPTION.
BUT ONCE, SAY A VOTE US EIGHT TO SEVEN, ONCE THE CHAIR ANNOUNCES THE VOTE, THAT'S IT IS ENOUGH.
IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S, BUT, UH, THE UNDER ROBERT'S RULES, THE MEMBER CAN ASK FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT FROM THE BOARD TO ALLOW THE ABILITY FOR HIM OR HER TO CHANGE HER VOTE.
BUT IT HAS TO BE A UNANIMOUS VOTE.
IF IT'S 14, IT HAS TO BE 14 VOTES.
I KNEW, BUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I JUST WANTED THE BOARD TO HEAR.
'CAUSE SOMETIMES THEY, WELL, IT FAIL OR IT'S GOING TO FAIL, YOU KNOW? WELL, IT'S, IF IT'S GOING TO FAIL, BUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S STILL UP TO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, ONCE THE CHAIR ANNOUNCES A VOTE, THAT'S IT.
UNLESS IT YOU GONNA GET 14 PEOPLE TO AGREE ON THE SAME THING.
AND LIKE I SAID, I'VE NEVER SEEN IT.
I'VE SEEN IT IN SOME OTHER STATES.
AND, UH, THAT'S BECAUSE, UH, UH, WHEN THE, UH, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS USE THE BUTTONS TO VOTE BY AND ACCIDENTALLY HIT THE WRONG BUTTON.
SO THEN AT THAT POINT, IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.
SO IF THERE IS NO OPPOSITION TO ROUTINE, UH, BUSINESS, UH, THEN YOU CAN VOTE BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
AND THE TWO TIMES YOU WILL VOTE BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT IS, UH, TO APPROVE MINUTES.
YOU CAN DO THAT BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT OR INDIVIDUALLY, IT'S UP TO YOU TO DECIDE.
BUT TO SAVE TIME, YOU COULD DO IT BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, UH, TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
YOU DON'T NEED A MOTION JUST, UH, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
UH, THE CHAIR CAN SAY, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, UNLESS ANYONE DISAGREES, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
OKAY, UH, WITH THE MOTIONS, A MOTION CAN BE MADE, IT CAN BE SECONDED, IT CAN BE DEBATED.
BUT IF THERE'S A REASON WHERE THE BOARD, AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE CHAIR, Y'ALL CAN TABLE A MOTION TO TAKE UP LATER IN THE SAME DAY.
UH, THIS HAS HAPPENED IN INSTANCES WHERE, UM, UH, A WITNESS WHO IS, UH, LET'S SAY THE ENGINEER FOR A PROPERTY OWNER, UH, IS LATE, AND YOU'VE HEARD FROM EVERYBODY, BUT THE ENGINEER IS ON HIS OR HER WAY.
YOU CAN TABLE THE DISCUSSION TO BE HEARD ONCE THE ENGINEER ARRIVES.
AND AGAIN, THAT GOES TO DUE PROCESS BECAUSE WE WANT EVERYONE TO BE HEARD BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION.
DOESN'T HAPPEN, UH, HAPPEN OFTEN, BUT, UH, THAT'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY, OKAY? WITH THE, WHAT THE, THIS BOARD DOES, UH, IN PARTICULAR,
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MOTION IS MADE, MOTION IS SECONDED.AND THEN, UH, LET'S SAY ROBERT MADE THE MOTION, AND ANN, UM, YOU AGREE WITH THE MOTION, BUT YOU WANNA ADD SOMETHING TO THE MOTION, SUCH AS ROBERT'S ORDER WAS, UH, PROPERTY SHALL BE VACATED AND, UH, DEMOLISHED IN 30 DAYS.
BUT IN, UH, YOU FEEL IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE PROPERTY BE SECURED DUR, UH, DURING THE PENDENCY UNTIL THE DEMOLITION IS COMPLETED.
AND SO, UH, YOU WOULD MAKE WHAT'S CALLED A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AND ADD WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE.
AND IF ROBERT AGREES WITH IT, YES, THEN THE MOTION PROCEEDS.
AND, UH, UH, THE BOARD DOES THAT QUITE ON A FREQUENT BASIS.
AND THE, AND PRIMARILY IT'S FOR, UH, LET'S SAY IF IT'S A DEMOLITION ORDER AND, UH, WE FORGOT TO PUT THE KEEP IT SECURED OR HAVE IT VACATED.
THAT'S, UH, PRIMARILY, UH, WHAT Y'ALL USE IN THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS.
NEXT ONE POINT OF ORDER, ANY MEMBER WHO BELIEVES THAT ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE BOARD IS BREAKING THE, UH, RULES MAY, UH, CALL ATTENTION TO THEMSELVES BY SAYING POINT OF ORDER THAT IS DIRECTED TO THE CHAIR.
THE POINT OF ORDER, UH, WILL BE, LET'S SAY IF, UM, JOEL STARTS TALKING AND HE'S ASKING QUESTIONS, AND THEN HE STARTS GOING OFF ABOUT, I SAW THIS GREAT EPISODE OF, UH, HOUSE BUILDERS, AND THEY DID THIS ON THAT EPISODE, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS FABULOUS.
AND THEN ISH, YOU'LL, YOU CAN SAY, POINT OF ORDER.
IT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND THEN EVELYN IS, CHAIR WILL EITHER SAY, YAY, YAY, OR NAY.
I CHOSE HOUSE BUILDERS, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE YOU'RE AN ENGINEER, BUT YOU KNOW, I WAS GONNA SAY, REAL HOUSEWIVES OF ATLANTA
UH, THE CHAIR CAN DENY IT OR APPROVE IT.
THE POINT OF ORDER IS TO BRING TO THE ATTENTION OF THE CHAIR THAT, UH, YOU FEEL A BOARD MEMBER IS VIOLATING, UH, THE PROCESS.
YEAH, BECAUSE I, I'VE SEEN, UH, CHAIRS IGNORE A POINT OF ORDER.
IT WOULD PROBABLY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
WELL, THE CHAIR CAN SAY, UH, IF, UH, A POINT OF ORDER NOTED, LET'S PROCEED, OR LET'S MOVE ON.
UH, OR THE, YOU KNOW, UH, IF THE CHAIR, UM, WANTS TO ALLOW IT, YOU COULD SAY, I ALLOW IT, OR SO NOTED, WE'LL PROCEED, OR SO NOTED.
IMPROPER MOTIONS, UH, MOTIONS MADE TO DELAY THE MEETING.
UH, Y'ALL HAVE NEVER DONE THAT.
UH, SILLY MOTIONS WITH THE MERIT WE USED TO HAVE, UH, THAT HAPPEN WITH YOUR PREDECESSORS, UH, WHICH WERE CALLED THE DANGEROUS STRUCTURES BUILDING, BUILDING BOARD, DS DB.
AND, UH, YEAH, SOME, UH, IT WAS, UH, A, A BOARD.
AND THE REPRESENTATIVES, UH, RATHER THAN BEING CIVILIANS, WERE REPRESENTATIVES FROM VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS.
AND THEN THERE WOULD JUST BE, UH, ISSUES.
AND SOME REALLY SILLY MOTIONS CAME OUTTA THAT.
UH, CAN I CHALLENGE MOTIVE OF YOUR FELLOW MEMBERS? Y'ALL DON'T DO THAT.
BUT IT'S PART OF ROBERT'S RULES.
UH, WE DON'T NOT QUESTION YOUR MOTIVES AS TO YOUR DECISION.
IT IS EXPECTED, JUST LIKE, UH, IN COURT WITH THE JUDGES.
WE CAN'T ASK WHAT YOUR MOTIVE IS OR SAY, HEY, YOU ARE RULING AGAINST ME BECAUSE OF THIS.
UM, EVERYBODY HAS A RIGHT TO THEIR OPINION, THEIR POSITION, AND EVERYBODY IS TO BE GIVEN DUE RESPECT TO THAT POSITION.
MO ANY MOTIONS OUTSIDE THE AUTHORITY OF THE BOARD, THAT'S WHEN ERIC WILL JUMP IN.
WHEN HE'S HERE, OR I'M HERE, OR SAM OR TONY OR FELIX, THAT, UM,
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IF, UH, Y'ALL ATTEMPT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT IS NOT WITHIN YOUR AUTHORITY.PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING IS UNDER YOUR AUTHORITY AS IT RELATES TO SAMHSA AND CHAPTER SIX, DANGEROUS STRUCTURES AND SUMMARY ABATEMENTS.
BUT, UH, AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT IS NOT, UH, WITHIN YOUR AUTHORITY IS, OKAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, THE, THIS PROPERTY, YEAH, IT'S, UH, IT'S NOT ZONED RIGHT? AND IT LOOKS OKAY.
WE WILL ALLOW REPAIR, WE ORDER YOU TO GO TO B O A OR, UH, TO PLANNING OR WHICHEVER BOARD TO GO GET REZONED.
THAT'S OUTSIDE YOUR AUTHORITY.
YOUR ONLY CONCERN ON THE BOARD IS, DOES THIS VIOLATION, DOES THIS PROPERTY PRESENT A THREAT OR A POTENTIAL THREAT TO HEALTH, LIFE SAFETY OR WELFARE OF PERSONS OR PROPERTY AND OF DOGGIES? UH, REPEATED MOTIONS, UH, WHEN IT FAILS THE FIRST TIME.
UH, WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER IS, IF A MOTION FAILS, THE SAME MOTION CAN'T BE MADE AGAIN BY THE SAME PERSON.
ANOTHER MOTION CAN BE MADE REVISED IN SOME MANNER.
IT JUST CANNOT BE THE SAME MOTION REPEATED OVER AND OVER.
'CAUSE IT'S GENERALLY GONNA RESULT IN THE EXACT SAME, UM, RESULT FROM PREVIOUS.
UH, SO, UH, ROBERT'S RULES OR PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE, THIS IS JUST A, A CHART, UH, JUST A SIMPLE CHART, NOT, UH, JUST OF THE GENERAL ACTION.
SO THE MAIN MOTION, MOTION HAS TO BE SECONDED ONLY AFTER IT IS SECONDED.
CAN DISCUSSION BEGIN? THEN YOU MOVE, UH, TO A VOTE, OR YOU CAN MOVE TO TABLE IT.
I THINK THAT SHOULD BE THE LAST, ISN'T IT? YES, THAT IS.
SO THAT'S ENOUGH ABOUT ROBERT SW QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
IF THE CHAIR CALLS FOR THE MOTION AND THE MOTION'S READ, AND, AND THEN SHE ASKED FOR A SECOND.
HOW LONG DOES THE CHAIR HAVE TO WAIT BEFORE? UH, IF, IF SHE DOESN'T GET A SECOND, HOW LONG DOES THE CHAIR HAVE TO WAIT BEFORE SHE REAL OR THE BOARD REALIZES IT'S NOT GONNA BE A SECOND ON IT? IT'S ALMOST IMMEDIATE.
UH, IF, UH, EVELYN CALLS, UH, STATES THE MOTION CALLS, UH, IS THERE A SECOND AND NO ONE RESPONDS, THEN IMMEDIATELY, UH, SHE CAN ANNOUNCE THE MOTION FAILS AND PROCEED ON.
SO THAT MEANS THE NEXT CASE COMES UP? NO.
WE ARE LOOKING FOR A MO A SOMEBODY ELSE.
A RESOLVE, A DISPOSITION TO FINISH THE CASE.
NOW, THE BIGGEST THING I WANT Y'ALL TO TAKE HOME IS, UH, NO DISCUSSION, NO DEBATE BEFORE.
AND SO WHEN YOU MAKE A MOTION, UH, MAKE THE MOTION, UH, USE THE TEMPLATE WE PROVIDE.
UH, DO NOT START ARGUING YOUR REASONS AS TO WHY YOU'RE MAKING THE MOTION.
THAT IS FOR WHEN WE ENTER INTO DEBATE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT ROBERT'S RULES? ALRIGHTY.
AND NOW, WHICH ONE ARE WE MOVING TO? UH, THE ETHICS AND PROCESS? UM, ALL OF YOU THAT ARE NEW TO THE BOARD, IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE SO, YOU WILL BE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH AN ETHICS TRAINING.
UH, I BELIEVE IT'S WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, UH, WHERE YOU SIGN YOUR ETHICS STATEMENT.
AND SO, UH, FOR Y'ALL, AS A QUASI-JUDICIAL BOARD, AS JUDGES, THE ETHICS RULES COMES DOWN TO TWO THINGS.
DUE PROCESS AND SHOWING DUE RESPECT TO EACH OTHER AND TO EVERYBODY WHO IS BEFORE YOU COMES DOWN TO
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THAT.UH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT CONFLICTS IN THE LITTLE SECTION.
SO THERE'S BOARD MEETING PROTOCOL, WHICH, UH, WE JUST KIND OF DISCUSSED.
UH, BECAUSE YOU ARE A CITY BOARD, UM, AS A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY, WE ARE SUBJECT TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
IT'S A VERY EXTENSIVE HANDBOOK.
WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO IS ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS ENTITLED TO ATTEND.
ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS ENTITLED TO BE, THEY ARE NOT ENTITLED TO UNLIMITED TIME.
SO EXCEPT FOR THE OWNER OR HIS OR HER REPRESENTATIVE, AND THE CODE OFFICER, UH, ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK, IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES, BUT THEY STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME SPEAK BECAUSE IT'S AN OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
UH, THERE ARE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THAT, UH, YOU HAVE TO ABIDE BY.
AND, UH,
AND, UH, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS, UH, ON ALMOST EVERY PAGE,
SO, YAY, WE CREATED LAW
ALL THE RECORDS OF THE HEARING, UM, EVERYTHING YOU'VE SAID, EVERY DOCUMENT THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU, EVERY DOCUMENT YOU HAVE REVIEWED, ALL THE PHOTOGRAPHS ARE ALL AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
EXCEPT, UH, WHAT WE SAY IN EXECUTIVE SESSION IS, UH, NEVER DISCLOSED BECAUSE THAT'S PROTECTED BY ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION.
UH, SECOND, UH, ANY ATTEMPTS TO ASK FOR, UH, YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION BEYOND YOUR NAME AND YOUR POSITION ON THIS BOARD IS PROTECTED, UH, SO THAT, UH, WE CANNOT RELEASE YOUR ADDRESS, YOUR CELL PHONE NUMBER, UH, YOUR LICENSE PLATES, YOU KNOW, IF THEY TRY TO FIND IN INDIVIDUAL INFORMATION.
SO, THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT REQUIRES THAT WE PRODUCE EVERYTHING.
UM, WE, UM, WE DO GET, UH, QUITE A FEW, UH, REQUESTS FOR B S B HEARING, UM, RECORDS.
AND THEN SAM, AND I'LL JUMP IN IF IT'S, UH, GOING TO BE LEADING TO LITIGATION OR AS PART OF LITIGATION.
AND THEN THERE'S EXCEPTIONS, AND WE ARGUE TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TO KEEP IT PRIVATE.
BUT ONCE WE GET TO COURT, UH, EVERYTHING THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, IS PROVIDED TO THE OTHER SIDE.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO HIDE.
BUT BY LAW, BY THE ETHICS RULES FOR ATTORNEYS, AND BY YOUR ETHICS RULES AS BOARD MEMBERS, NOTHING IN EXECUTIVE SESSION CAN BE DISCLOSED.
AND SO KEEP THAT IN MIND WITH EXECUTIVE SESSION.
AS THE ATTORNEYS, WE CANNOT, UH, TALK ABOUT ANYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
Y'ALL HOLD THE PRIVILEGE, MEANING WE ASK THAT YOU NOT REPEAT WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UH, IF YOU DO REPEAT IT AND IT BECOMES PUBLIC, THE PRIVILEGE IS LOST, AND WE HAVE TO DISCLOSE EVERYTHING WE TALKED ABOUT.
SO VERY, VERY IMPORTANT ABOUT EXECUTIVE SESSIONS.
UH, ANY, UH, COMMUNICATIONS YOU HAVE WITH ANY OF THE LAWYERS, THAT IS ALSO PROTECTED.
AND WE DO NOT HAVE TO TURN ALL THAT OVER.
AND THEN THE CODE OF ETHICS WILL BE FOUND IN CHAPTER TWO.
I WON'T GO TOO MUCH INTO IT, UH, BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE YOUR INDIVIDUAL TRAINING.
SO, NEXT ONE, UH, WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, THE CONDUCT AND THE PROCESS OF THE MEETINGS.
IT IT, LIKE I SAID, IT ALL COMES DOWN TO DUE PROCESS AND RESPECTING EVERYONE WHO COMES
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BEFORE YOU.AND, UH, THE, UH, WITH THIS, AND THIS WAS, UH, UH, ARGUMENT FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT, UH, UH, WERE HERE WHEN THE, UH, COMPOSITION WAS CHANGED AND, UH, BY, UH, UH, PEOPLE WHO NEVER ATTENDED A, A HEARING.
AND SO THERE WAS, UH, THIS, UH, PERCEPTION OR MISPERCEPTION OUT THERE THAT Y'ALL'S MEMBERS OF THE BOARD CAN OFFER TO ASSIST AN INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER WITH SOMETHING.
UM, AS A QUASI-JUDICIAL BOARD, YOUR JUDGES, YOU CAN'T, UH, OFFER YOUR SERVICES TO ANYBODY WHO COMES BEFORE YOU.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S ENGINEERING SERVICES, ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES, UH, MEDICAL QUESTIONS, UH, KAYLA WITH, UH, IF WE HAVE A TENANT, UH, YOU CAN'T SPEAK TO THEM DURING THIS PROCESS AS TO ASSIST, BUT THEN IN YOUR OWN PROFESSIONAL CAPACITY CAPACITIES OUTSIDE OF THIS, UH, YOU'RE WELCOME TO USE YOUR EXPERTISE TO ASSIST ANYBODY BASED ON YOUR EXPERT EXPERTISE WITH THE CITY CODES.
THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT MEETING, UH, AND THIS IS, UH, VERY IMPORTANT.
A MEETING IS WHERE THERE'S ANY DELIBERATION BETWEEN A QUORUM OF A BODY, A QUORUM FOR A FULL PANEL IS EIGHT.
A QUORUM ON YOUR INDIVIDUAL PANELS IS FOUR.
IF SAY, UH, TODAY Y'ALL ALL GET TOGETHER AND DECIDE TO GO GET A BEER IN LIKE 14 MINUTES, THEN IF THERE ARE EIGHT OF, WELL, LET'S SEE, LIST TODAY, UH, 2, 4, 6, 8, 10.
SO IF THERE ARE SIX OF YOU THAT Y'ALL DECIDE TO GO, YOU GET A BEER AND THEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT, OH, WELL, THIS IS WHAT I'D LIKE TO REVISE WITH SAMHSA.
OH, UH, THIS IS WHAT I WOULD'VE DONE ON THIS PROPERTY.
OR, THIS PROPERTY IS COMING BEFORE THE BOARD.
IF YOU START TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING RELATED TO B S B, YOU ARE HOLDING AN OPEN MEETING.
AND EVERYTHING YOU SAID, IF YOU TEXTED EACH OTHER, IF THERE'S VOICEMAILS, THAT IS ALL SUBJECT TO OPEN RECORDS.
SO DOES THAT MEAN Y'ALL CAN'T GATHER SOCIALLY? NO.
IT JUST MEANS YOU CANNOT CONDUCT BUSINESS WHILE YOU'RE GATHERING SOCIALLY.
CAN YOU GOSSIP ABOUT THE BOARD, ABOUT CODE, ABOUT, UH, WHAT HAVE YOU? SURE.
WE ALSO CREATED THIS, UH, THE LAW ON DELIBERATION IS A VERBAL EXCHANGE.
SO THEN, UM, SOME MEMBERS, UH, WHEN TEXTING BECAME AN OPTION ON THE PHONE, UH, THAT, WELL, WE'LL JUST TEXT EACH OTHER AND MAKE DECISIONS.
IT'S NOT VERBAL, SO IT'S NOT A DELIBERATION.
WELL, THE AG DISAGREED AND, UH, SO EVEN TEXTING EACH OTHER, THAT'S WHY, UM, I HAVE ASKED JUDY AND JUDY'S BEEN GREAT ABOUT IT, THAT Y'ALL NOT COMMUNICATE EACH OTHER WITH EACH OTHER IN A GROUP, UH, EMAIL OR A GROUP TEXT EXCHANGE ABOUT ANY B S B BUSINESS AT THAT POINT, IF YOU DO, YOUR PHONE, UH, IS SUBJECT TO OPEN RECORDS.
UH, THE FAMOUS DECISION BY THE AG, UH, WE HAD A COUNTY COMMISSIONER WHO WAS UTILIZING HIS PHONE TO CONDUCT BUSINESS, HIS PERSONAL PHONE, AND THEY RULED THAT HE HAD TO HAND THE PHONE OVER AND EVERYTHING ON THERE, UH, THEY COULD LOOK AT TO DETERMINE IF HE WAS CONDUCTING BUSINESS.
AND, UH, UH, SOME INTERESTING TEXTS WERE FOUND.
NEXT ONE, UH, AS I SAID, SOCIAL FUNCTIONS
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ARE EXCLUDED, CONVENTIONS, WORKSHOPS, BUT NEXT ONE, IT'S STILL, IF Y'ALL GATHER IN A SOCIAL SETTING, JUST DON'T TALK ABOUT BUSINESS AND YOU'LL BE FINE.UM, YOU GOTTA PUT THAT ON SILENT.
ANN'S GONNA SHOW YOU HOW TO PUT IT.
UH, WE ALSO INVENTED THIS, UH, THERE WAS A HOTLY CONTESTED ISSUE, UH, UH, YEARS AGO.
AND THE MEMBERS, UH, WANTED TO MAKE A DECISION AND TO DISCUSS IT, BUT NOT AN OPEN SESSION.
AND SO THEY DECIDED THAT WHAT THEY WOULD DO IS, AT ANY GIVEN TIME, THEY WOULD MEET IN A ROOM BUT NOT HAVE QUORUM.
AND SO THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL WAITED OUTSIDE.
SO THEN ONE MEMBER WOULD SAY, OH, OKAY, I AM GOING TO THE RESTROOM.
THEN THE NEXT MEMBER WOULD WALK IN AFTER BEING TOLD WHAT WAS DISCUSSED.
AND SO THAT IS CALLED A WALKING QUORUM, AND THAT IS SUBJECT TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT AND THE OPEN RECORDS ACT.
UH, Y'ALL KNOW THIS, UH, EVERY VOTE THAT IS TAKEN ON A PROPERTY HAS TO BE DONE IN OPEN SESSION.
UH, THERE WILL BE NO STRAW VOTES, MEANING WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND Y'ALL TAKE A VOTE THERE AND DISCUSS YOUR REASONS.
BUT THEN YOU COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION AND YOU VOTE AND, UH, BASED ON WHAT YOU DISCUSSED, BUT YOU DON'T REPEAT YOUR REASONING WHEN, UH, YOU ARE MAKING, UH, MAKING YOUR MOTION, THERE'S A SECOND DISCUSSION.
THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO BRING UP ANYTHING THAT, UH, IS NOT CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION BETWEEN LAWYER AND CLIENT.
UH, WE QUORUM, CAN'T CALL EXECUTIVE SESSION UNLESS THERE'S A QUORUM.
AND THEN EXECUTIVE SESSIONS MAY BE, UH, CALLED BY YOUR ATTORNEYS, OR, UH, ANY MEMBER OF THE BOARD CAN ASK THE CHAIR TO CALL EXECUTIVE SESSION.
IF Y'ALL FEEL YOU HAVE A QUESTION.
AND IF, IF YOU ARE UNSURE IF IT FALLS WITHIN LEGAL CONSULTATION, WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION SESSION.
IF IT DOESN'T, WE WILL TELL YOU THAT AND WE COME RIGHT BACK OUT.
UH, VOS, WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WE TALKED ABOUT IT DOES NOT PREVENT YOU FROM EXPRESSING YOUR OPINIONS.
UH, WE, UH, DID HAVE A CASE WITH YOUR PREDECESSORS WHERE, UH, THEY DIDN'T WANNA SAY WHAT THEY WANTED TO SAY IN PUBLIC, SO THEY STARTED TEXTING EACH OTHER AND HAVING THE DISCUSSION ON TEXT, UM, CLEARLY PROHIBITED.
SO PLEASE DON'T TEXT EACH OTHER, UH, REGARDING THE BUSINESS AT HAND.
AND, UH, SO THIS, THIS WAS CREATED, UH, AFTER THE ADVENT OF, UM, CHAT FEATURES, EMAILS, TEXT MESSAGES.
UH, WE EVEN HAD AT ONE POINT WHERE THEY WERE WRITING NOTES TO EACH OTHER AND PASSING IT ALONG, AND, UH, THEY WERE ACTUALLY TAKING A VOTE.
OR YOU, YOU KNOW, IT WAS LIKE HIGH SCHOOL.
UH, WILL YOU VOTE WITH ME? YES.
AND YOU'RE GONNA HEAR THIS FOREVER.
UH, Y'ALL ARE THE ONLY, UH, ONE OF TWO QUASI-JUDICIAL BODIES IN THE CITY BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS IS THE OTHER ONE, WHICH MEANS YOUR ORDERS ARE FINAL.
UH, ONLY A DISTRICT COURT JUDGE CAN
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REVERSE AN ORDER.WHEN WE ENTER INTO SETTLEMENT AGREEMENTS, WE GET THE JUDGE'S SIGNATURE.
'CAUSE ONLY THE JUDGE CAN DO THAT.
NOW, THERE ARE SOME SITUATIONS WHERE WE'LL ALLOW FOR WHAT'S CALLED COMPLIANCE AGREEMENTS, BUT THOSE ARE ALSO HANDLED BY THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
SO THAT, UH, THE BOTTOM LINE IS NO ONE CAN CHANGE YOUR DECISION.
THEY CANNOT REVERSE YOUR DECISION.
THE CITY MANAGER CANNOT DO IT.
DISTRICT COURT JUDGE, Y'ALL ARE JUDGES.
THEN I'LL DO THE DART OVERVIEW OVERVIEW.
BUT VERY QUICKLY, UH, NEXT SLIDE.
OH, I DIDN'T EVEN CHANGE THE DATE.
SORRY ABOUT, OH, NO, I DID CHANGE THE DAMN.
FOR NEW MEMBERS, DART STANDS FOR THE DANGEROUS ASSESSMENT RESPONSE TEAM.
WHY DO YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THIS? DART WAS CREATED TO BE AN AGGRESSIVE, PROACTIVE UNIT THAT WOULD GO AFTER THE WORST OF THE WORST NUISANCE PROPERTIES IN THE CITY.
THESE ARE THE CRACK HOUSES, THE GANG HOUSES, THE W***E HOUSES, UH, SALVAGE YARD OPERATORS.
UM, HABITUAL CODE VIOLATORS WOULD DART.
FOR DART TO GET INVOLVED, THE PROPERTY HAS TO HAVE AT LEAST A TWO YEAR DOCUMENTED HISTORY OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OR HABITUAL CODE VIOLATIONS.
SO, UH, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SKIP THROUGH THAT.
THE GOAL OF DART IS TO RECLAIM, RESTORE, AND REVITALIZE.
SO DART IS CREATED, UH, NEXT SLIDE.
SO, UH, DANGEROUS PREMISES OFFICERS, UH, ARE ON DART CODE COMPLIANCE IS ON DART.
THE REASON WE HAVE THE TWO SEPARATE, UH, THE DP OFFICER IS THE MAIN LIAISON ON DART AND ADDRESSES STRUCTURAL ISSUES.
THE CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICER LOOKS AT ALL THE SAMHSA VIOLATIONS.
UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS A MEMBER OF DART THROUGH THE SAFE UNITS, AND, UH, THE VICE UNIT IS ON THERE.
UH, D H SS AND N H S D ARE MEMBERS OF DART, UH, ANIMAL CARE SERVICES, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, T A B C.
AND THEN DART IS COORDINATED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
THESE ARE ALL THE TYPES OF PROPERTIES WE ADDRESS.
SO BASICALLY, DART WILL ADDRESS ANYTHING THAT IS CONSIDERED PROPERTY IN TEXAS.
WHEN, UH, NEXT ONE, UH, UNIQUE ASPECTS OF DART.
UH, I USED TO, UH, COORDINATE THE TEAM, UH, IN HOUSTON.
EVERY UNIT SIMILAR TO OURS ACROSS THE COUNTRY IS A SELF-CONTAINED UNIT THAT IS EITHER FUNDED BY THE CITY OR FUNDED BY A GRANT FROM THE D O J.
WHEN I CAME TO SAN ANTONIO, UH, I MADE A PURPOSEFUL DECISION THAT I WANTED TO CREATE A UNIT WHERE CODE ENFORCEMENT AND ANIMAL CONTROL AND HEALTH COULD BE MEMBERS OF THE TEAM.
BECAUSE, UH, THE UNITS THAT ARE FUNDED BY D O J GRANTS ARE LIMITED PURELY TO PROPERTIES THAT HAVE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
EVEN THOUGH WE HAD CODE OFFICERS, THEY COULD ISSUE THE CITATIONS, BUT WE COULDN'T ADDRESS THE, THE HABITUAL HOARDERS OR OUTSIDE PLACEMENT OR PEOPLE, UH, OPERATING A JUNKYARD IN THEIR HOUSE.
IF IT DIDN'T HAVE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, WE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
AND SO WE PURPOSELY MADE THE DECISION WITH THIS UNIT IN SAN ANTONIO CREATED IN THE FALL OF 2007, THAT, UH, WE WERE NOT GOING TO APPLY FOR A D D O J GRANT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS, AT THE TIME IT WAS A CODE ENFORCEMENT.
WE WANTED TO ADDRESS THE HABITUAL
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CODE VIOLATORS.EVERYBODY ON THE TEAM DOES, UH, DOES THEIR DART WORK, UH, ON TOP OF THEIR REGULAR DUTIES.
AND AGAIN, UH, WELL, SINCE IT'S NOT FUNDED, UH, EACH INDIVIDUAL, UH, OFFERED TO FUND, UH, PORTIONS OF DART AND, UH, SO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT PAYS FOR THEIR OFFICER'S TIME HEALTH.
UM, DAVID WAS, UH, INSTRUMENTAL IN, UH, WHEN I WAS TRYING TO GET DART CREATED.
UH, HE WAS THE FIRST DE DEPARTMENT AND SHOUT OUT TO CODE ENFORCEMENT.
UH, THEY WERE THE FIRST DEPARTMENT THAT SAID, UH, ABSOLUTELY YES, WE WILL USE OUR MONIES TO, IF WE HAVE TO DEMOLISH A HOUSE AFTER DART, IF WE HAVE TO REPAIR IT, IF WE HAVE TO PICK UP ALL THE JUNK, ALL THE TRASH THAT'S COMING OUT EXCLUSIVELY OF, UH, CODES BUDGET.
UH, WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO A POINT WHERE A CITY FUNDED SO THE DEPARTMENTS DON'T HAVE TO KEEP UTILIZING THEIR OWN FUNDS.
AND I ALSO WANNA GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO ALICE AND DANNY, UH, WHEN THEY WERE, UH, BABY CODE OFFICERS, UH, THEY WERE, UH, THE FIRST MEMBERS OF DAR.
SO, UH, THESE ARE, AND, AND THE, THE, THE MOST UNIQUE ASPECT OF DART IS THAT, UNLIKE THE OTHER ONES, UH, THE UNDER A D O J GRANT, YOU GO AFTER A PROPERTY CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, YOU SUE THE PROPERTY, CRIMINAL ACTIVITY STOPS, AND THEN IT'S OVER.
THE UNIQUE PART OF OURS IS WE CARRY IT TO A CONCLUSION.
SO IF IT'S A HOUSE THAT'S FALLING DOWN, WE BRING IT TO Y'ALL AND WE GET A DEMOLITION ORDER, OR IT'S REPAIRABLE, OR DOES THE PERSON, THE ACTUAL OWNER NEED ASSISTANCE, WE'RE ABLE TO FOLLOW IT TO A RESOLUTION AS OPPOSED TO HITTING IT.
AND THEN IT BECOMES A PROBLEM AGAIN TWO YEARS LATER.
UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT NEXT SLIDE.
UH, THE, WITH, UH, DART THE CONSIDERATIONS.
I MEAN, WE LOOK AT A LOT OF FACTORS.
UH, WE LOOK TO SEE, UH, ARE WE GOING TO NEED, UH, ANIMAL CARE SERVICES? ARE, ARE THERE ANY, UH, ISSUES OR CONCERNS ABOUT ELDER ABUSE? IF SO, WE'RE GONNA BRING ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES WITH US.
ANY ISSUES WITH CHILDREN? UH, WE BRING C P S WITH US.
I MENTIONED THAT D H S AND N H S D ARE PART OF DART.
THEY'RE AT EVERY SINGLE DART EVERY, UH, WHEN WE HIT A PROPERTY, WE GO IN ALL AS A UNIT, AND, UH, THEY'RE ON SITE TO OFFER, UH, ASSISTANCE.
IF A NOTICE TO VACATE HAS TO BE ISSUED, THEN, UH, THE CASE WORKER IS RIGHT THERE ON SITE TO ME, WITH THE TENANTS AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND, UH, OFFER ASSISTANCE, UH, HAZMAT CONCERNS.
WE'VE RUN ACROSS A, A FEW METH LABS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH, UH, UH, METH LABS, YOU OPEN THE DOOR, IT CAN EXPLODE.
SO WE'VE HAD TO UTILIZE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S HAZMAT TEAM.
UH, WE'VE BEEN TO LOCATIONS WHERE WE'VE, UH, FOUND ACTIVE BOMBS.
SO THE BOMB SQUAD HAD TO BE CALLED IN AND, UH, I KEEP FORGETTING THE WORD, IMPLODE THE DEVICE OR SOMETHING.
UH, DO WE NEED SWAT? WE'VE HAD TO USE SWAT QUITE A FEW TIMES.
UH, LOOKING AT LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEXES, WE'RE GONNA NEED A PLAN OF ACTION.
WE CAN'T ISSUE A NOTICE TO VACATE TO LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEXES WITH 2000 UNITS BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO RELOCATE EVERYBODY.
NEXT ONE, AFTER EVERY DART, WE DO MEET WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND DISCUSS, UH, VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE TO, UH, OBEY EITHER THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, THE CODE VIOLATIONS, BUT TO ABATE EVERY VIOLATION THAT WAS FOUND ABOUT 90% OF THE TIME.
UH, THE OWNERS COOPERATE AND WE OBTAIN VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE.
IF THEY CHOOSE THE ROUTE OF NOT COMPLYING AT THAT POINT, THEN SAM AND I GET INVOLVED.
AND FOR CRIMINAL CASES, UH, WE FILE A LAWSUIT TO CLOSE THE PROPERTY DOWN, REMOVE EVERYBODY, UH, BOARD AND SECURE FOR ONE YEAR.
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FOR CODE VIOLATIONS, UH, WILL FILE THE LAWSUIT AND SEEK THE PROPER REMEDY, OR THE DECISION IS MADE TO BRING THE PROPERTY BEFORE Y'ALL.THAT'S THE REASON I WANT Y'ALL TO KNOW ABOUT DART.
THE CASES YOU HEAR CAN BE ANYWHERE FROM NINE MONTHS TO 18 MONTHS BEFORE IT COMES TO Y'ALL.
EVERY ASSISTANCE HAS BEEN OFFERED.
EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO ABATE THE SITUATION HAS BEEN OFFERED.
Y'ALL ARE THE REMEDY OF LAST RESORT WITH DART.
WHEN WE BRING THE PROPERTY TO Y'ALL FOR RESOLUTION, IT'S BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A, A, A BIG THREAT TO THE SURROUNDING CITIZENS THAT IT ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND NOT WAIT 18 MONTHS OR THREE YEARS TO BRING IT BEFORE YOU.
SO, UH, THAT IS, UH, THE ONE SITUATION YOU'LL HEAR.
BUT WHEN, UH, DART PROPERTY IS BROUGHT, YOU WILL HEAR FROM THE DART OFFICER, WHO WILL NOW BE JOSHUA MARTINEZ, AND HE WILL PRESENT THE, UH, CASE TO YOU.
HE WILL PROVIDE YOU INFORMATION THAT IT IS A DART, AND THEN YOU WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM THE POLICE OFFICERS IF IT WAS, UH, UH, CRIMINAL ACTIVITY WAS INVOLVED, SO THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF THAT.
A LOT OF TIMES WITH DART PROPERTIES, BECAUSE THEY ARE A HIGH PROFILE, HIGH PRIORITY, YOU'LL HEAR FROM A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS WHO'VE HAD TO, UM, DEAL WITH THE ISSUES AS, UH, SOME OF Y'ALL HEARD THE TWIN SISTERS CASE.
UH, THE NEIGHBORS, UH, GUNSHOTS, UH, BULLETS THROUGH THEIR HOUSES, THEIR WINDOWS, UM, EVERY NIGHT, EVERY SINGLE NIGHT.
AND SO, UH, IT'S, WHEN IT COMES TO YOU, IT'S BECAUSE IT IS THAT HIGH OF A THREAT TO THE PUBLIC.
UH, NEXT ONE, UH, TALKED ABOUT THAT.
TALKED ABOUT THAT T A B C IS ON THERE FOR BARS, UH, CONVENIENCE STORES, IF THEY'RE A DAR TARGET AND THEY DON'T VOLUNTARILY COMPLY, AND WE HAVE TO FILE A LAWSUIT.
IT USED TO BE THAT T A B C WAS THE ONE WHO HAD TO TAKE ACTION ON THEIR PERMIT OR THEIR T A B C LICENSE, AND THEY WOULD DECIDE, OH, WE'RE GONNA FILE A LAWSUIT.
SO, UH, ABOUT TWO LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS AGO, UM, SEVERAL T A B C OFFICERS GOT TOGETHER, UH, WERE ABLE TO FIND A SPONSOR, AND THE BILL PASSED THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY IS NOW AUTHORIZED TO FILE SUITS UNDER THE T A B C CODE.
SO WE COULD ADDRESS THE BARS AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE TO GET THOSE TYPES OF BARS SHUT DOWN.
AND IF WE, UH, WIN THE LAWSUIT, THEIR T A B C PERMIT IS REVOKED PERMANENTLY, SO THEY CAN'T JUST HOP TO ANOTHER PLACE, OPEN IT UP, AND START THE SHOOTINGS OVER AGAIN.
UH, WE DID THAT WITH ONE PARTICULAR PROPERTY ON FREDERICKSBURG.
UH, WHEN I, UH, WROTE THE PETITION, THEY HAD, UH, 452, UH, INCIDENCES OF SHOOTINGS, MURDERS, RAPES, ASSAULTS, KNIFINGS, AND LIQUOR VIOLATIONS.
BUT T A B C DIDN'T WANNA FILE A LAWSUIT.
AND SO WE WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS AND THEN FINALLY GOT THEIR, UH, LICENSE REVOKED.
AND, UH, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE IT.
OH, THESE ARE JUST, UH, FOR THE, UH, WE'LL JUST FLIP THROUGH FAST EXAMPLES OF DART PROPERTIES THAT WE DEAL WITH.
UH, THIS WAS ONE OF THE FIRST ONES.
UH, DANNY ALICE, ONE OF Y'ALL WERE PRESENT ON THIS ONE.
UM, THIS IS WHAT THEY WERE LIVING IN.
IN THERE, THEY HAD A THREE MONTH OLD BABY CHILDREN RANGING FROM, UH, SEVEN TO THREE MONTHS, UH, CRAWLING AROUND ON THE FLOOR AND OUTSIDE, UH, NEEDLES EVERYWHERE.
UH, C P S WAS CALLED, UM, DANGEROUS PREMISES WAS PRESENT.
UH, THE MOTHER WAS MORE UPSET ABOUT THE FACT THAT, UH, PDCS ASH OF HEROIN, THEN SHE WAS C P S TAKING THE KIDS AWAY.
AND SO THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE.
UH, THE NEXT DAY AFTER, UH, THE DIRECTOR OF CODE SIGNED THE EMERGENCY DEMOLITION, AND,
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UH, WITH THAT, THE, THE MOTHER WAS EVENTUALLY ARRESTED FOR CHILD ABUSE, POSSESSION OF DRUGS.UH, THE KIDS WERE TAKEN AWAY, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, THEY'VE ALL BEEN ADOPTED.
UH, THIS WAS A HOUSE NEAR MY NEIGHBORHOOD IN DISTRICT SEVEN.
AND, UH, THIS GUY WAS RENTING ROOMS IN HIS HOUSE, UH, BASED ON APPLICANTS FROM THE APP GRINDER.
AND SO HE WAS RUNNING BASICALLY LIKE A SEX CLUB AT THIS HOUSE, AND IT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
AND THE FOUNTAIN THERE, UH, THEY WOULD GO OUT TO THE FOUNTAIN TO TAKE THEIR BATHS WHILE THE KIDS WERE ALL THERE.
UM, AND THEN, UH, THEY WERE SELLING DRUGS OUT OF THE HOUSE.
THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW.
THIS, UH, HOARDER, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, ALL THAT NEXT, UH, SLIDE.
THIS IS THE, UH, AFTER WE ADDRESSED IT, THE, UH, NEW OWNERS STARTED REPAIRING IT.
UH, AND IT, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE TODAY.
I AM SORRY, I DIDN'T HAVE AN UPDATED PHOTO.
UH, THE PICTURE ON THE TOP RIGHT, THAT'S ALL HUMAN AND DOG FECES IN THIS HOUSE, UH, SHE WAS, UH, NOT ONLY AN ANIMAL HOARDER, BUT A HOARDER IN GENERAL.
THERE WERE HOLES IN THE FOUNDATION AND THE FLOORING THAT THE DOGS WERE FALLING THROUGH AND GETTING STUCK.
UH, NEXT, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY.
UH, SHE, UH, HAD, UH, MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.
SO, UH, WE CONTACTED THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT, UH, CONTACTED FAMILY MEMBERS, UH, AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET HER INTO A FACILITY, AND THE DOGS WERE REMOVED.
NOW, NEXT, THIS, UH, WAS A, UM, UH, A, A SMALL APARTMENT COMPLEX.
UH, THEY WERE ALSO OPERATING AS A GAMBLING ENTERPRISE.
AND, UH, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW.
THIS WAS, UH, ONE 11 DOT OUR FIRST, UH, DART LAWSUIT.
THIS WAS THE POOL THE DAY WE ARRIVED, THAT THE KIDS, UH, WERE SWIMMING AROUND IN.
UM, BOTTOM RIGHT IS A CONDITION OF THE UNITS.
NEXT ONE, UH, THIS IS THE ONE, UH, IT HAD, UH, A MASSIVE GAS LEAK ALONG WITH EXPOSED ELECTRICAL WIRES.
AND, UM, WE HAD, UH, ISSUED THE IMMEDIATE NOTICE TO VACATE.
'CAUSE THE FIRE MARSHAL, UH, TRULY BELIEVED IT WAS GONNA EXPLODE WITHIN THE HOUR.
NEXT PAGE, UH, FORCED THE SALE, AND THEY'VE BEEN TURNED INTO INDIVIDUAL CONDOS, UM, THAT ARE, UH, GOING FOR PRETTY EXPENSIVE, UM, MORTGAGES, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
AND THE POOL AREA THAT Y'ALL SAW, UH, HE TURNED IT INTO A FOUNTAIN AREA.
NEXT ONE AND THIS ONE'S JUST A FUN ONE.
IT WAS A, A RIA, IT WAS CALLED MARIOSA.
AND, UH, IT WAS WHERE YOU COULD GO TO GET A TACO AND A LAP DANCE AT THE SAME TIME.
AND, UH, NEXT ONE, UH, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO READ, BUT IT'S, UH, YEAH, THAT WAS THE WELCOME SIGN IN, IN FRONT OF THE LOCATION.
IS THAT THE LAST ONE? I THINK SO.
OH, IT MIGHT BE A STUCK, BUT, BUT THAT GIVES Y'ALL, UM, YEAH, THAT, THAT ONE WAS, UH, PRETTY INTERESTING.
I WANTED Y'ALL TO HAVE A BACKGROUND.
SO WHEN YOU HEAR ABOUT A PROPERTY THAT IS A DART PROPERTY FOR YOU, JUST KNOW THAT IN ORDER FOR IT TO HAVE BEEN A DARK, IT'S ONE OF THE WORST OF THE WORST NUISANCE PROPERTIES THAT IS JUST INCREDIBLY IMPACTING.
NOT ONLY THE PEOPLE LIVING IN THERE, BUT, UH, THE, THE NEIGHBORS SURROUNDING IT.
Y'ALL MISSED THE PICTURES OF THE ONE WE FOUND.
74 CHIHUAHUAS, HALF OF 'EM WERE DEAD AND CRATES.
AND THEN, UH, THE OWNER WAS ACTING, UH, VERY STRANGELY
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BY HER CAR.THERE WERE, UH, BAGS, SOME BAGS, TRASH BAGS FULL OF DEAD DOGS.
AND, UH, SHE WAS, UH, A ONE OF THE HEAD NURSES AT BAMSEY.
SO, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT DART? NOW, THE LAST THING I DO WANNA SAY ABOUT DART PROPERTIES, AS YOU SAW, DEMOLITION IS ALWAYS THE REMEDY OF LAST RESORT.
SO SOME OF THOSE HOUSES WE WERE ABLE TO SUE FORCE A SALE, GET NEW OWNERS, AND REPAIR IT.
SO DART PROPERTIES MAY BE BROUGHT TO YOU WITH THE REPAIR ORDER.
IT'S NOT ALWAYS GONNA BE A DEMOLITION ORDER.
IF, UH, WE FEEL THERE'S A CHANCE TO REHAB AND WE'VE BEEN TOLD THERE'S A NEW OWNER, IT'LL COME TO YOU AS A REPAIR.
SO, UH, MOST OF THE DARTS YOU'VE SEEN ARE DEMO, BUT WE HAVE HAD A FEW REPAIR.
AND SO JUST KNOW THAT NOT EVERY ONE, EVERY DART IS GONNA BE ASKING FOR A DEMO.
ANY QUESTIONS? SO, DO WE HAVE AN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE THAT UPDATES THE PARAMETERS AND THE LEGAL ISSUES WITH REGARDS TO THE DARTS BECAUSE THINGS ARE HAPPENING THAT NEEDED TO BE STOPPED AND IT'S GETTING WORSE.
WE'RE, UH, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT THE NEW CASE LAW COMING OUT, UM, THE TWO YEAR HISTORY REQUIREMENT, UH, THAT THAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED BY THE COURTS.
AND SO THERE ARE SOME PROPERTIES WHERE, UM, WE WON'T REQUIRE THE TWO YEARS, LIKE, LET'S SAY, UM, THE TWIN SISTERS CANTINA, EVEN THOUGH IT HAD BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME BEFORE WE WERE ASKED TO STEP IN.
UM, IN THAT INSTANCE, THERE WERE SO MANY SHOOTINGS ON A NIGHTLY BASIS THAT THAT'S A PROPERTY DARK WOULD'VE GOTTEN INVOLVED IN, IF WE KNOWN ABOUT IT, UM, WITHOUT NEEDING THE TWO YEAR HISTORY.
THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN PUZZLING TO ME HOW YOU SEE, WE SEE WRAP SHEETS, PAGES AND PAGES AND PAGES, AND I UNDERSTAND, OKAY, IF THERE'S AN 18 MONTH THING OR TWO YEAR MONTH THING, I GUESS, BUT I WOULD BE ONE TO PUSH THE ISSUE.
I DON'T NEED TO SEE TWO YEARS OF BILLS CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
AND THAT'S JUST, THAT, JUST, THAT'S REALLY DIFFICULT.
AND, AND LIKE I SAID, UNFORTUNATELY, UH, THAT'S WHAT THE COURTS HAVE ESTABLISHED AND WE GET SO MANY REQUESTS FOR DART FOR A PROPERTY TO BE DARTED, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD NEIGHBOR DISPUTES, AND THEY'LL SAY, OH NO, THERE'S DRUG ACTIVITY.
WELL, IF THERE'S NOTHING DOCUMENTED EVERY TIME THE POLICE WENT, UM, WE'RE NOT SURE IF THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING.
SO THAT'S WHY WE NEED THE DOCUMENTED.
AND THEN THE TWO YEAR HISTORY IS BECAUSE WITH DART, IF WE DON'T OBTAIN VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE, THERE'S GOING TO BE FINAL ACTION, WHICH WILL BE LAWSUIT OR BRINGING IT TO B SS B.
BUT BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS HEADING TOWARDS THE LAWSUIT ON A DART, THE COURTS HAVE SAID WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT TWO YEAR.
AND, UH, I WILL THAT CHANGE, UH, I'M NOT SURE.
UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, WE, WE HAVE BROAD PROPERTIES THAT HAVE, UH, A SHORTER TIME SPAN, BUT THE, UH, THE LEVEL OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY IS SO SEVERE THAT IT REQUIRES ACTION.
IT'LL CHANGE WHEN SOMEBODY PASSES AWAY.
I, I, UNFORTUNATELY, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S UNFORTUNATE.
IT, IT'S, AND UM, IT'S W WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE OVERSEEING IT, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF DISCRETION AND, UH, OUR CITY ATTORNEY, ANDY SEGOVIA, UH, IF THERE'S ONE THAT WE THINK WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO MOVE ON IMMEDIATELY, UM, HE'S VERY IN FAVOR OF THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS UNDER? ALRIGHT.
THANK Y'ALL AGAIN FOR ALL VOLUNTEERING FOR, UH, THE SAMHSA SUBCOMMITTEE AND, UH, WHEN, UH, WE HAVE THE FIRST MEETING, UM, I HOPE TO BE THERE BECAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE, UH, WE DON'T VIOLATE, UH, THE OPEN MEETINGS, UH, WALKING QUORUM ISSUES BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S VOLUNTEERED.
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GOOD AFTERNOON BOARD MEMBERS.UH, MOVING RIGHT ALONG THROUGH OUR AGENDA, WE HAVE A FEW MORE ITEMS TO GO THROUGH.
UH, WE WANTED TO DEFINITELY, UM, STEP INTO OUR ORGANIZATION CHART FOR, FOR THOSE OF OUR CURRENT BOARD MEMBERS AS, AS WELL AS THOSE OF OUR, OUR NEW BOARD MEMBERS.
WE WANTED TO, UM, MAKE KNOWN AND INTO THE RECORD, UH, UH, SOME PROMOTIONS, SOME INTERNAL PROMOTIONS THAT WE'VE HAD RECENTLY, UM, GONE INTO PLACE WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT, UH, AS THE STANDING OVATION SHE RECEIVED ALREADY.
ALICE IS OUR, IS OUR NEWEST MANAGER WITH THE DEPARTMENT.
UH, PREVIOUSLY AS A SUPERVISOR, SHE HAS NOW, UM, BEEN PROMOTED TO MANAGER.
SO YOU WILL SEE HER IN A BIT OF A DIFFERENT CAPACITY, UH, MOVING FORWARD.
EITHER FILLING IN FOR ME OR US JUST WORKING TOGETHER.
UM, WITH THAT ALSO, UM, WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE, UH, THE MOVEMENT WITHIN OUR SUPERVISOR POSITIONS.
UH, WE HAVE RAMIRO GUERRA, WHO WAS PREVIOUSLY, UH, KIND OF THE PRIMARY FOR OUR DART INSPECTIONS.
HE HAS NOW BEEN PROMOTED TO SUPERVISOR, SO HE'S ACTUALLY OVERSEEING NOW THE CENTRAL, UM, UH, DISTRICT, WHICH IS KIND OF COMPRISED OF DISTRICT ONE AND DISTRICT TWO.
UM, WE HAVE ALSO, ANOTHER, UH, OFFICER THAT WAS RECENTLY PROMOTED IS JOSE GUTIERREZ.
HE WAS, UH, PREVIOUSLY A ZONING OFFICER WITH THE DEPARTMENT.
HE'LL BE OVERSEEING NOW THE WEST SIDE AREA, WHICH IS DISTRICT SIX AND DISTRICT FIVE.
AND WE LASTLY HAVE A PROMOTION WITHIN, UM, ANOTHER, UH, ZONING OFFICER WHO WAS RECENTLY PROMOTED TO THE NORTH DISTRICT.
SHE IS NOW OVERSEEING DISTRICT NINE AND DISTRICT 10.
SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED, WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THESE OFFICERS WHO'VE BEEN WORKING AND GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND, AND HER ARE NOW GONNA BE ABLE TO EXPAND THEIR EXPERIENCE AND THEIR WORK, UH, TO THE STAFF THAT, UH, OUR FIELD OFFICERS ARE COMPRISED OF.
SO WHILE YOU'LL SEE SUPERVISORS DOING THE PRESENTATIONS FOR OUR SS A P M C CASES, YOU WILL STILL SEE, UM, EVEN OUR, WE DO HAVE SOME, UM, VACANT POSITIONS WITHIN OUR DP OFFICERS OR DANGEROUS PREMISE OFFICER POSITIONS.
THOSE ARE NOW IN PROCESS TO BE FILLED AS WELL.
SO WE'LL DEFINITELY PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME UPDATES ONCE THOSE STAFF MEMBERS ARE NOW BROUGHT INTO PLACE AS WELL.
SO GOOD MOVEMENT, GOOD MOVEMENTS MOVING WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.
UH, NEW BLOOD, NEW IDEAS, NEW NEW THOUGHTS AND PROCESSES.
SO WE'RE DEFINITELY EXCITED AND WANTING TO, TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW ABOUT THAT.
OUR, OUR ORG CHART, JUDY HAS THAT HERE FOR EVERYBODY.
WE'RE IN PROCESSING PROBABLY BY THIS AFTERNOON, UPDATING OUR MAPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT WE DO HAVE, TRYING TO KEEP THAT AS UP TO DATE AS POSSIBLE.
SO WE JUST WANNA LET EVERYBODY KNOW IN THAT.
ALRIGHT, DISTRICT SIX, WHO'S, UH, DISTRICT SIX.
SO YOU HAVE THE PRIMARY IS JOSE GUTIERREZ IS THE DISTRICT SIX PRIMARY, UM, SUPERVISOR.
HE, HE SEES THAT HE ALSO HAS A LITTLE SMALL PIECE OF DISTRICT FIVE, BUT THAT'S THE WEST SIDE, UH, THAT WE CONSIDER THE WEST SIDE, UM, DISTRICT.
SO THAT IS, UH, THE NEW SUPERVISOR FOR THAT AREA.
YOUR CHARGE IS SHOWN THERE IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT'S ON THE, WHAT DO WE GOT? YEAH, WHAT DID WE HAVE? CUTTING OFF? IS IT CUTTING OFF? THIS IS A FLOW CHART.
IT DIDN'T GET THE WHOLE, IT'S NOT PICKING UP YOUR MANAGEMENT SIDE.
LET'S GO TO NO, IT'S NOT THAT ONE.
LET'S GO TO THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.
AND LET'S GO TO, LET'S GO TO TEAMS. THAT'S WHAT THE ONE, GO TO THE HOME PAGE AND THEN GO TO, THERE YOU GO.
MY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE HERE IS IT DOESN'T TELL ME WHAT DISTRICTS THEY ARE, THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS.
IT, IT DOES NOT HAVE THE BREAKING DOWN.
WE CAN ADD THAT WE WILL WORK TO GET THAT ADDED AND, AND THAT WOULD WORK NICE.
AND THEN A QUESTION ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE OVER THERE IS THIS, AND I'M GRAPHICS A LITTLE BIT, YOUR A GRAFFITI, THE GRAFFITI ABATEMENT UNIT? YES.
ARE THEY A STANDALONE? THEY ARE A STANDALONE UNIT, BUT THEY STILL FALL UNDER WITH OUR CODE DIVISION.
SO THERE'S NO LIKE A DOTTED LINE UP TO, WELL, LIKE TO DANNY, IT IS THROUGH DANNY.
THIS IS A, THIS IS A NEW FORMAT.
WE'VE HAD SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT FORMAT, SO IT'S GONNA BE UPDATED.
PREVIOUSLY IT WAS ON TWO PAGES, RIGHT? WE WERE TRYING TO SQUEEZE IT ONTO ONE PAGE, BUT, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING, I THINK TO UPDATE THAT PAGE TO CLEAN IT UP A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO YES, THAT IS, THAT IS A CORRECT ASSESSMENT.
AND FOR THAT, ALL YOU NEED IS YOUR DOTTED LINE.
AND THEY'RE A STANDALONE, BUT YES.
AND THEN IF YOU COULD ON MY RECOMMENDATION INSTEAD OF JUST RIGHT NOW, LIKE THE EAST, 'CAUSE I'M IN EAST SIDE MM-HMM.
BECAUSE WHAT I SEE, YEAH, THAT, THAT'S EXACTLY MY NOTES.
SO I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE WITH YOU.
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GO BACK AND FORTH ON DOING BOTH AND SO WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE SURE WE VISUALIZE THAT AS WELL.I DO BELIEVE THAT SAYS BOARDING, BOARDING HOUSE TEAM.
IS THAT YOU? NO, THAT IS A PROGRAM THAT'S BEEN WITHIN THE BOOKS MAYBE SIX TO EIGHT YEARS.
IT IS A, WE DO HAVE A LICENSING PROGRAM THAT REQUIRES BOARDING HOMES TO BE LICENSED THROUGH THE CITY.
SO WE HAVE A DEDICATED STAFF FOR THAT.
AND THE VACANCIES ARE STILL AT 13.
UH, THAT IS A FLUCTUATING NUMBER.
WE ARE ADDING, WE JUST APPROVED SIX MORE POSITIONS.
WE HAVE SOME MORE STAFF THAT ARE, UM, THAT, THAT MAY BE LEAVING AT THE END OF THE MONTH.
SO IT'S A CONTINUAL UP AND DOWN.
AND THAT'S NOT SAYING RETIREMENTS AND ALL THAT ARE GONNA KICK OUT PROMOTIONS AND ALL.
IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD HURDLE, A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE BRINGING IN NEW OFFICERS, BUT ALSO IT'S A CONTINUAL, CONTINUAL MOVEMENT.
I'M SAFE TO SAY THAT THE EAST SIDE, WHICH WOULD BE IN DISTRICT THREE, SOME OF IT, UM, TECHNICALLY IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
IT WOULD BE THE NORTHEAST DISTRICT THREE WOULD BE NORTHEAST IS WHAT WE HAVE THAT LABELED AS.
SO YOUR NORTHEAST SUPERVISOR WOULD BE PRIMARILY YOUR PERSON FOR, UM, FOR DISTRICT THREE, THERE'S A SMALL PIECE OF THE EAST SIDE THAT DOES COVER DISTRICT THREE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW THOSE EXACT NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT IT'S A VERY SMALL, UH, THE WAY THE KIND OF THE PIE IS CUT UP.
AND, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING THAT BECAUSE TO ME IT FALLS DEPENDING ON WHERE I'M AT, WILL FALL EITHER THREE OR NORTHEAST AND C P S MAP.
FOR THEIR ZONING OF THEIR INSPECTORS.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING BECAUSE MINE IS KIND OF IN THAT.
'CAUSE DISTRICT THREE'S THE LARGEST ONE.
WE'RE ALSO IN THE SOUTH, IT'S THE SOUTH, SOUTHWEST, THE SOUTHEAST.
SO THAT'S WHAT, BECAUSE I'M REPRESENTING DISTRICT THREE, I'D LIKE TO KNOW ALL OF THE SURE.
AND I DO HAVE THOSE NOTES DOWN.
AS I MENTIONED ON MINE, THE SAME THING.
I HAVE THOSE DISTRICTS LISTED, SO WE'LL WORK TO SQUEEZE THOSE IN THERE.
UM, MOVING ON TO THE LISTING AND THE BREAKOUTS OF THE PANELS FOR PANEL A AND PANEL B.
UM, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE SITUATED SO FAR.
AGAIN, UM, AS IT'S BEEN MENTIONED, THANKING EVERY, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR STEPPING UP TO, TO JOIN THE BOARD.
UH, WE STILL HAVE A COUPLE OF VACANCIES.
I THINK WE HAVE AN APPLICATION THAT IS WORKING THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS, SO WE HOPE TO HAVE THOSE VA VACANCIES VERY SMALL AND SHORTENED TIME PERIOD, BUT I, I WON'T NECESSARILY READ THROUGH THESE, BUT JUST TO SEE WHERE EVERYBODY HAS LANDED ON THE PANELS, THE PANEL A, THE PANEL B ON A GREAT, A GREAT DAY.
WE HAVE ALL THE POSITIONS FILLED AND THE, UM, THERE ARE SOME MEMBERS WHO'VE BEEN GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO KIND OF FLOW THROUGH TO, UH, MAKE SURE WE DO HAVE, UM, A QUORUM AT EACH AND EVERY HEARING BECAUSE TYPICALLY THIS IS, THIS IS NOT DONE EVERY MONTH FOR OUR NEW MEMBERS.
TYPICALLY WE BREAK IT OUT, UH, ONE WEEK OF THE MONTH WILL BE FOR PANEL A, THE FOLLOWING WEEK WILL BE FOR PANEL B, SO WE'RE NOT TYING EVERYBODY'S TIME UP.
AND ALSO, UM, MAKING SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH CASES HEARD EACH MONTH.
I THOUGHT WE HAD A FEEL FOR, UH, DISTRICT SEVEN.
THAT QUESTION WAS MENTIONED TO ME AS WELL.
I DON'T SEE THAT LISTED, JUDY.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN FULL.
I KNOW BECAUSE WE HAD THE ATARD POSITIONS AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAY BE WHERE IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN, BUT I HAD THAT SAME, I WAS LOOKING AT THAT THIS MORNING AS THE SAME QUESTION.
I I THOUGHT I HEARD THAT THAT DISTRICT SEVEN WAS FILLED, WHICH MADE US, THE ONLY ONE WE HAD WAS THE VACANCY AT LARGE, SO YEAH.
WE'LL TRIPLE CHECK THAT AGAIN BECAUSE I, I HAD THAT SAME NOTE BUT, UH, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T SEE, UH, BUT I THINK THAT THEY MAY BE WITH THE, AT LARGE POSITIONS.
ADD TO THAT, UM, THE AT LARGE POSITION, UM, THE APPLICATION'S BEEN APPROVED, UH, VIA, UH, PROJECT MANAGER PROJECT, UM, COORDINATOR.
UH, BUT UH, HE STILL HAS TO GO BEFORE THE SUB THE CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE, UH, BEFORE GETTING APPROVED.
AND THEN THE DISTRICT SEVEN YOU MIGHT'VE HEARD IS, UH, WE HAD A SECOND AT LARGE WHO, UH, WANTED TO SERVE IN THE D SEVEN POSITION, BUT HE LIVES IN CONVERSE AND, UH, Y'ALL ARE ALL REQUIRED TO LIVE WITHIN CITY LIMITS.
UM, MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT PIECE IS JUST OUR ATTENDANCE.
YES, WE TECHNICALLY DO KEEP ROLE.
WE DO KNOW MANY, MANY MEMBERS DO HAVE OTHER JOBS AND OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES.
SO WE'RE ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTANDING OF THAT.
WE JUST, UM, DO REQUEST THAT AS, AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE TO PLAN AHEAD IF YOU KNOW YOU'RE SCHEDULED FOR THE HEARINGS AND, UM, WE CAN ALWAYS WORK.
JUDY AND ESTHER ARE VERY GOOD ABOUT WORKING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A QUORUM.
THAT IS ALWAYS OUR NUMBER ONE GOAL.
UH, THERE'S A LOT OF PAPERWORK, A LOT OF PRE-PLANNING NOTICES
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TO BE MAILED.IN SOME INSTANCES WE'RE MAILING 30 LETTERS FOR ONE PROPERTY.
SO ANY ONE PROPERTY HAS A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES INTO IT TO GET US HERE TO MAKE SURE WE FILLED ALL THE BLANKS AND, AND CHECKED ALL THE BOXES.
I DON'T THINK THIS PAST YEAR WE'VE HAD TO CANCEL ANY BECAUSE OF A LACK OF QUORUM.
AND, UH, WE ARE VERY, VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.
THAT IS NOT SOMETHING WE TAKE LIGHTLY.
I KNOW MR. NELSON HAS A LOW ONE, BUT I KNOW HE'S ALSO JUMPED BACK AND FORTH.
SO WE DO HAVE A, I HAVE A STAR PENCILED IN HERE, MR. NELSON TO GIVE YOU THAT EXTRA CREDIT BECAUSE IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
WE, WE DIDN'T WANNA PUT THAT IN THERE, SO I PENCILED IN A STAR ON MY REPORT AND, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE THAT ADDED NEXT TIME IS JUST BASED ON PRESENCE OR IS THIS BASED ON JUST NO, NO, NO, NOT AT ALL.
JUDY, HOW COME I GET 83? DO I GET ANY POINTS FOR BEING IN THE HOSPITAL?
WE'LL PUT A FOOTNOTE ON THAT AS WELL, MR. ZUNIGA.
BUT ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND COMMITMENT FOR THOSE THAT ARE HERE TODAY.
UM, THIS IS A GREAT, WE'VE NEVER HAD THIS MANY FOR A FULL BOARD, SO WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT MOVING FORWARD WITH IT.
THAT DOES COMPLETE MY REPORTS AND WE'LL KEEP THIS MOVING.
SO, SO PANEL A BUYS PANEL B LUNCH.
UM, I WILL BE PRESENTING THE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING OFFICE, UM, COMPLIANCE FUND DATA AND THE STATS COLLECTED WERE FORMED FROM OCTOBER 1ST, 2021 TO MARCH 1ST, 2022.
THIS IS THE CASE AND FINE SUMMARY FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE CITATIONS ISSUED.
VIOLATIONS, FINES DUE ARE FOR THE AMOUNT OF $334,335.
THE VIOLATION COSTS DUE FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING OFFICER'S OFFICE IS $22,200 FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF $356 300 AND $356,353, PARDON ME, FINES PAID.
THE AMOUNT IS GOING TO BE $36,713 AND 34 CENTS.
OUTSTANDING FINES ARE GOING TO BE FOR THE AMOUNT OF $319, SIX HUNDRED AND THIRTY NINE THREE HUNDRED $19,639 AND 66 CENTS FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF $356, $356,353.
THE COMPLIANCE FUND STARTED IN 2022 WITH A BALANCE OF $15,390.
AS OF DATE, WE HAVE NOT PAID OUT ANY FUNDS.
SO CURRENTLY THE BALANCE REMAINS THE SAME, THE SAME.
THIS, THIS IS AVAILABLE TO USE BY SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2022.
THE REASONS WHY WE'VE NOT PAID ANY FUNDS OUT CURRENTLY IS BECAUSE CVID 19 ENCLOSURES OF THE COURTS, THIS SLOWED DOWN OR UTILIZING OF THE FUNDS, BUT WE ARE PUSHING TO GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF.
THAT DOES MY CONCLUDE FOR THE, UH, COMPLIANCE FUND.
LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION ON THAT.
IF YOU DON'T USE IT BY THE FIFTH, BY SEPTEMBER.
IS THAT GONNA IMPACT NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET? UH, I'M NOT REALLY SURE ON THAT QUESTION.
IS IS THAT GONNA IMPACT FROM STAFF? THAT DOES NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT US.
IT'S JUST, UH, IT'S MONEY THAT IS EARMARKED.
SO IT DOES NOT IMPACT OUR LINE ITEM BUDGET, BUT IT IS MONEY THAT'S EARMARKED.
WE, WE LOOK TO ALWAYS WITH FUNDS THAT ARE PAID IN FROM THE FINES, THERE IS SO MUCH PER FINE THAT'S KIND OF EARMARKED TO, TO, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY SUPPLEMENT THAT OR TO FILL THAT, THAT UH, FUND UP ANYTHING ELSE IS SUR IS SURPLUS.
SO THE NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE THEN WE, YOU GONNA LOSE IT OR CAN YOU CARRY IT OVER? I DON'T THINK YOU CAN CARRY IT OVER 'CAUSE IT'S EARMARKED CORRECT.
THERE'S NO, YEAH, THERE'S NO CARRY OVER.
SO IT IS OUR ABSOLUTE GOAL TO MAKE SURE WE LOSE, WE USE IT ALL UP.
UM, WITH THAT IT IS A SMALL NUMBER SO IT CAN BE USED UP VERY QUICKLY.
UM, WE TRY TO MAKE IT SPREAD OUT, BUT WE KNOW THINGS HAVE CHANGED OVER THIS LAST COUPLE YEARS WITH BUILDING MATERIALS AND BUILDING CONTRACTORS SO THAT THAT FUNDING COULD POTENTIALLY GO WITH DOING MAYBE ONE AND A HALF PROPERTIES.
SO WE HAVE SOME THAT WE ARE REVIEWING NOW TO GET THEM INTO THE PIPELINE AND TO UH, HOPEFULLY MAKE THAT ASSISTANCE AVAILABLE TO THEM.
AND I POINT THAT OUT BECAUSE IF, YOU KNOW, IF THEY SEE THAT LOSS OR YOU DIDN'T USE IT, THEN IT'S GONNA AFFECT THE OVERALL BUDGET WHEN YOU GUYS PUT IT IN AND TRY TO GET MORE MONEY, THEY'RE GONNA USE THIS AS A NEGATIVE AND SAY YOU DIDN'T USE THAT MONEY.
NO, IT IS DEFINITELY, WE'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT WE'LL BE, GET ABLE TO GET
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THAT MONEY USED.AND MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ORDER'S.
GOING TO BE THE B SS B ORDERS AND ACTIONS TAKEN FROM OCTOBER 1ST, 2021 THROUGH MARCH 31ST, 2022, UH, PROPERTIES PRESENTED FOR THE DANGEROUS STRUCTURE CASES.
PANEL A PRESENTED ORDERS FOR 13 CASES.
PANEL B PRESENTED ORDERS FOR 22 FOR A TOTAL OF 35 CASES.
SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASES.
UH, PANEL A PRESENTED 28 CASES.
AND PANEL B PRESENTED ORDERS FOR 12 PROPERTIES FOR A TOTAL OF 40 SOM ABATEMENT APPEALS.
THERE WERE NOT ANY, SO ABATEMENT APPEALS FOR OCTOBER 1ST, 2021 THROUGH MARCH 31ST, 2022.
THE TOTAL NUMBER OF SUMMARILY ABATEMENT, APPEAL CASES, ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS, PANEL A, ORDERED 53 AND PANEL B HAD A TOTAL OF 46 FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF 99 ORDERS.
THERE WAS ALSO A TOTAL NUMBER OF B S B CASES MEETINGS HELD FROM OCTOBER 1ST, 2021 THROUGH MARCH 31ST, 22, 20 22, A TOTAL OF 12.
PANEL A, PANEL A HELD FIVE, PANEL B HELD SIX, AND THE FULL BOARD WAS FOR ONE.
AND THIS DOES CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.
I BELIEVE THAT IT DOES COMPLETE OUR AGENDA FOR TODAY UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT WE MISSED.
THE B S B GUIDELINES, POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
PROCEDURES PORTION OF IT MEMBERS HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED TO PANELS BASED ON VACANCIES, NOT ON VOLUNTEER BASIS AS A MOOT POINT.
UH, REMAIN STRICKEN FROM POLICY AS SUGGESTED OR RECONSIDERED ASSIGNMENT CRITERIA.
UH, AS FAR AS, UH, LEGAL REVIEW, UH, WE DO AGREE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION THAT IT BE STRICKEN, UM, BECAUSE, UH, AS MS. GUILLORY STATED, UH, EVERYTHING IS ESSENTIALLY ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS, BUT WE GO BASED ON VACANCY AND THAT'S WHERE MEMBERS ARE PLACED.
AND SO, UH, WE AGREE THAT THE ISSUE IS MO AND IT SHOULD BE RESCINDED, BUT IT'S UP TO THE BOARD TO DECIDE IF YOU WANNA LEAVE IT IN.
IT SAYS MEMBERS HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED TO PANELS BASED ON VACANCY, NOT ON VOLUNTEER BASIS, WHICH IS A MOOT, MOOT POINT.
UH, REMAIN STRICKEN FROM POLICY AS SUGGESTED OR RECONSIDERED ASSIGNMENT CRITERIA.
OH, WHEN, UH, THIS WAS PUT IN HERE, THE INTENT HAD BEEN ONCE YOU GET ASSIGNED TO THE BOARD, UH, YOU, UH, YOU GET TO CHOOSE WHICH PANEL YOU'D LIKE TO SERVE ON.
BUT, UH, AS SOON AS WE STARTED GETTING SO MANY VACANCIES, THIS BECAME MOOT BECAUSE, UH, ONCE THERE'S A VACANCY, THAT'S WHERE A NEW MEMBER WAS GOING TO BE PUT THE OPTION FOR Y'ALL TO CHANGE PANELS OR TO SIT ON A PANEL THAT NEEDS MEMBERS.
AND THAT'S FURTHER DOWN IN THE BYLAWS THAT THE CHAIR, UH, HAS THE ABILITY TO MOVE MEMBERS AROUND.
AND SO REALLY, UH, I'M NOT SURE WHY, UH, THIS WAS, UH, PUT IN INITIALLY, BUT, UH, IT, IT IS REDUNDANT.
UH, DOES IT CREATE ANY LEGAL PROBLEMS? NO, NOT AT ALL.
IT, IT'S JUST MORE A POLICY AND, UH, BY REMOVING IT, UH, THE POLICY STILL REMAINS.
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THE WAY IT IS, IS THAT WHEN VACANCIES ARE OPEN AND JUDY AND ESTHER ARE GOING THROUGH, UH, WHAT POSITIONS ARE OPEN.UH, LET'S SAY LIKE ANN, THE POSITION WAS OPEN ON PANEL B I BELIEVE, SO ANN WAS PUT ON PANEL B.
UH, WE NO LONGER GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF HOLDING THIS MEETING AND EVERYBODY VOLUNTEER.
UH, WE JUST DID THAT FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME.
B S B UH, JOINED, I MEAN B S B, THAT WAS, UH, BECAUSE WE HAD CERTAIN WEEKS ESTABLISHED THAT PEOPLE PREFERRED.
BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW, UH, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SWITCH PANELS.
BUT IF YOU DO THAT, YOU JUST LET JUDY KNOW.
AND EITHER E EVELYN OR LENCIA JUST HAS TO SAY YES.
IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE WRITTEN.
IT JUST PROVIDES YOU MORE FLEXIBILITY WITHOUT IT BEING WRITTEN.
MADAM CHAIR, DWAYNE NELSON, I MOVE THAT WE REMOVE, UH, SECTION FOUR PANELS, SUBSECTION G FROM OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
WE HAVE A, UM, WE HAVE A MOTION TO REMOVE.
UH, WHAT WOULD THE THE SECTION FOUR.
WE HAVE A, UH, AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION.
COULD WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MS. BROWN? MS. BROWN? AYE.
HER NUMBER TWO IS, UH, AGENDA A JUST A QUESTION, ALTHOUGH WRITTEN, ARE WE IN COMPLIANCE WITH PART A, UH, CITIZENS REPEAT REPEATEDLY COMPLAIN ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY? ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, NOTICE OF TIME PLACE AND SUBJECT MATTER OF MEETING HAS TO BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC.
WHAT IS THE DESIGNATED D S D LOCATION? 1901.
IT'S, IT'S NOT ACTUALLY, IT'S UH, UM, THE, THE ISSUE OF, UH, THE NOTICE BEING POSTED.
UH, THE AG AND OUR CITY CHARTER HAVE DESIGNATED, UH, THE KIOSK, UH, BY CITY HALL AS A CENTRAL LOCATION.
AND SO THAT IS WHERE WE'RE REQUIRED TO POST.
UM, THERE, THERE WAS A ISSUE THAT CAME UP, UH, WHILE AGO WHERE, UH, BOARDS WERE MEETING IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
UM, THIS BOARD USED TO MEET IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS THEN MOVED OVER HERE, BUT, UH, IT WAS THE AGS OPINION THAT THE CENTRAL LOCATION, UH, THAT IS DESIGNATE DESIGNATED BY THE CITY SHELL, UH, MAY, UH, SHALL BE MAINTAINED.
AND IF WE STARTED REQUIRING NOTICES TO BE POSTED AT ALL THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THE BOARDS WERE MEETING, UH, IT WOULD NOT BE ACCESSIBLE BY ALL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
BUT IN ADDITION TO THE KIOSK AT CITY HALL, THE, UM, THE MEETING AND AGENDAS ARE POSTED ONLINE AS WELL TO MAKE IT, UH, MORE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
THEREFORE, THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IS YES, WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE.
SOME DAYS YOU JUST LIKE TO HAVE A YES OR NO ANSWER.
WELL, MY DIDN'T YOU SAY THAT WAS A QUESTION? A QUESTION? YEAH.
DIDN'T YOU SAY THAT WAS JUST A QUESTION? I DID.
SO WE DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON A QUESTION UNLESS YOU WANNA VOTE THAT THE ANSWER IS YES.
NOW, WE USED TO, I MEAN, PRIVATE PRACTICE, THEY GET PAID BY LIKE EVERY WHAT, THREE MINUTES.
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SO WE TALK, YOU SAYING WE'RE BEING PAID NOW,SO, UM, UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE, ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING? UH, MADAM, I'M SURE I DO.
MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT WE ALLOW THE LEGAL STAFF TO REVIEW OUR BYLAWS AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CHANGES.
SECOND, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A MOTION TO ALLOW LEGAL TO REVIEW THE BYLAWS.
AND WE HAVE A SECOND IS NO DISCUSSION.
WE HAVE A DISCUSSION NOW BECAUSE HOLD ON.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION
IF, IF, IF THE CHANGE YOU WANNA MAKE REQUIRES THE STAFF, WOULD YOU, WOULD IT BE ACCEPTABLE AS AN AMENDMENT THAT IF IT REQUIRES A STAFF ISSUE TO BE ADDRESSED, WOULD THAT BE AMENDABLE? UH, THE, UH, ACTUALLY WHAT, UH, I WILL BE LOOKING AT IS MORE FORMAT GRAMMATICAL.
UH, THERE IS ONE PROVISION, UH, WHERE THE LANGUAGE MAY, UH, NEED TO BE RE REQUIRED TO BE CHANGED A LITTLE BASED ON NEW LAW.
SO I, I JUST WANNA BE ABLE TO RESEARCH AND UNFORTUNATELY I WAS ALL, UH, I WAS OUT ALL LAST WEEK AND UM, IN THAT HAT, UH, I WILL CONSULT WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT AS A CLIENT AND THEN COME BACK TO Y'ALL AS MY CLIENT TO GET APPROVAL.
WELL THANK, THANK YOU SO MUCH
CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MS. BROWN? UH, UH AYE.
MR. GUPTE, MS. NOT PRESENT TO VOTE? MR. GARZA? AYE.
IS THERE ANYTHING, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED OR ANYTHING? OKAY.
BY UNANIMOUS DECISION WE ARE ADJOURNED UNLESS SOMEBODY OBJECTS.
THANK ALL YOUR STAFF MEMBERS FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR US