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WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON.

IT IS 2 0 7 AND CALLING, UH, TO ORDER THE MEETING FOR APRIL 27TH, 2022 OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO PLANNING COMMISSION.

UM, AND WE HAVE THIS SPANISH LANGUAGE INTERPRETER, PLEASE.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

STAFF, CAN YOU PLEASE CONDUCT THE ROLL CALL? COMMISSIONER GARCIA.

PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER ZUKI PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER MILAM? HERE.

COMMISSIONER ORIAN? NO.

COMMISSIONER BUSTA MONTE.

PRESENT.

COUNCILMAN COURAGE.

PRESENT.

UM, COMMISSIONER PECK, PRESENT CHAIR.

PROPHET HERE.

UH, QUORUM IS PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

UH, WE WILL HAVE, UH, TWO, UH, TWO AGENDAS TODAY.

CONSENT AND, UH, INDIVIDUAL ITEMS TO BE HEARD.

ALL ITEMS WITH THE EXCEPTIONS OF ITEMS 3, 5, 9, 16, 17, 18, AND 20 WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR CONSENT.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

ALRIGHT.

AT THIS POINT,

[Public Comment]

WE WILL ENTERTAIN ANY CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.

UM, MS. BRENDA GIBBONS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

I'M, I'M SORRY, MR. BRENDAN GIBBONS.

MY APOLOGIES.

IF YOU CAN NAME AND ADDRESS IN THREE MINUTES.

AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU'RE SPEAKING ON ITEMS 15 AND 16.

THAT'S RIGHT.

IF YOU CAN MAYBE JUST ADDRESS ITEM 15 AT THIS TIME, BECAUSE 16 IS BEING PULLED FOR LATER.

INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, OF COURSE.

UH, THAT WOULD BE 2 81 OVERLOOKED PARTNERS, CORRECT? YES.

OKAY.

UH, GREETINGS, UH, SAN ANTONIO PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS BRENDAN GIBBONS.

I'M ASSISTANT MANAGER OF THE GREATER EDWARDS AQUIFER ALLIANCE OF OUR OFFICE IS AT 1809 BLANCO ROAD.

HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.

WE ADVOCATE FOR PROTECTION AND PRESERVATION OF THE EDWARDS AQUIFER.

IT'S SPRINGS WATERSHEDS IN THE TEXAS HILL COUNTRY THAT SUSTAINS IT.

I'M HERE TODAY TO REQUEST THAT YOU DENY, UH, THIS PLAN AMENDMENT CASE.

UH, THIS PLAN AMENDMENT WOULD PAVE THE WAY FOR A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S INCONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS OF THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN.

A PLAN MEANT TO GUIDE DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA THROUGH 2035.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE SEEN THIS PLAN REPEATEDLY AMENDED SINCE ITS PASSAGE.

UH, THIS PLAN IN PARTICULAR HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY UNDERMINED SINCE 2010 WITH CITY COUNCIL APPROVING MORE THAN 85 AMENDMENTS TO THIS PLAN.

ACCORDING TO G'S RESEARCH, UH, THIS AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A MIXED USE, MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON 57 ACRES OF THE EDWARDS AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE.

THIS LAND IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED WITH NO IMPERVIOUS COVER.

IF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST IS GRANTED, IMPERVIOUS COVER COULD INCREASE AS HIGH AS 85%.

FOR THIS LAND USE OF THIS LOCATION, SAWS IS RECOMMENDED LIMITING THE IMPERVIOUS COVER TO 65% VARIANCES AND AMENDMENTS SUCH AS THESE ARE SLOWLY BUT SURELY THREATENING THE WATER QUALITY OF OUR AQUIFER.

CUMULATIVELY THE REPLACEMENT OF OPEN LAND WITH ROOFTOPS, ASPHALT, AND CONCRETE INEVITABLY RESULTS IN LOWER QUALITY STORM WATER ENTERING THE AQUIFER IN OUR LOCAL CREEKS AND RIVERS.

ALL OF SAN ANTONIO'S URBANIZED CREEKS ARE TOO POLLUTED FOR SWIMMING DUE TO BACTERIA CONTAMINATION FROM STORMWATER RUNOFF.

IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND RELATED BODIES CONTINUE ALLOWING THESE AMENDMENTS WILL HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM, NOT JUST WITH WATER QUALITY, BUT WITH INCREASED DOWNSTREAM FLOODING.

SOMETIMES WHEN FACED WITH DECISIONS LIKE THIS THAT SEEM ROUTINE OR INCREMENTAL, IT'S WORTH STEPPING BACK TO REMIND OURSELVES WHY THOSE WHO CAME BEFORE US ENACTED DEVELOPMENT GUIDELINES SUCH AS THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN.

SAN ANTONIO HAS BEEN BLESSED WITH AN ABUNDANT LIMESTONE AQUIFER THAT RECHARGE US QUICKLY WHEN IT RAINS, BUT OUR DEPENDENCE ON THE AQUIFER HAS ALSO LEFT US VULNERABLE TO CONTAMINATION.

UNLIKE MOST CITIES, WE DO NOT HAVE A TREAT PRE-TREATMENT PLANT THAT FILTERS OUR WATER BEFORE WE DRINK IT.

IMAGINE A FUTURE WHEN DEVELOPMENT OVER THE RECHARGE ZONE LEADS TO CONTAMINATION OF THE GROUNDWATER TO THE EXTENT THAT WE'D REQUIRE PRE-TREATMENT OF SAWS EDWARDS AQUIFER SUPPLIES.

ASIDE FROM THIS THREAT TO PUBLIC HEALTH, THINK OF THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS THAT SAN ANTONIO RESIDENTS WILL HAVE TO PAY TO RESTORE THE EDWARDS AQUIFER TO ITS CURRENT QUALITY.

INSTEAD, LET'S ALL WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE A FUTURE WHERE WE CAN CONTINUE TO RELY ON THE AQUIFER.

AND WE ARE HAPPY TO HAP HAPPY TO HELP IN ANY WAY WE CAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

UH, BEFORE I, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR, UH, APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT, OF COURSE WE HAVE SOME RECUSALS.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WANT TO REMOVE? ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL

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CONSIDERATION? OKAY.

HEARING NONE, I'M GOING TO ASK COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE TO, I'M SORRY.

I WAS GONNA MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

OH, WE HAVE TO ALREADY PULLED.

OH, I DID.

I, I, MY APOLOGIES.

GO AHEAD.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA A SECOND.

ANYWAY, I'LL SECOND APPROVAL BY, UH, MOTION, UH, FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER PECK.

SECOND BY, UH, COUNCILMAN COURAGE.

PLEASE CONDUCT THE ROLL CALL VOTE.

COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES.

COMMISSIONER SIEGEL.

YES.

COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YES.

COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES.

COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.

AYE.

COUNCILMAN COURAGE? YES.

COMMISSIONER PECK? YES.

CHAIR PROFIT? YES.

MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL.

THANKS.

IT IS, UH, TWO 13 AND COMMISSIONER BUSANTE IS SOERING OFF LEAVING.

IT HAS LEFT THE MEETING.

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UH, FOR ITEMS, UH, THREE AND FIVE.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? THE, UH, PARDON ME.

THIS WOULD BE FOR ITEM NINE.

ITEM.

NO, IT'S FIVE.

OH, YES.

I'M SORRY.

MY, MY APOLOGIES.

MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR COMMISSIONER PECK.

SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER.

PLEASE CONDUCT A VOTE.

COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES.

COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES.

COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YES.

COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES.

COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES.

COMMISSIONER BUS .

OH, I'M SORRY.

RE UM, COUNCILMAN COURAGE? YES.

COMMISSIONER PECK.

YES.

CHAIR, PROFIT? YES.

MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL.

THANK YOU.

HAVE A LOOK.

.

IT'S TWO 14 AT A, AT A SLIGHTLY FASTER PACE.

COMMISSIONER BUSTANI HAS RETURNED.

UH, WE'LL MOVE TO NUMBER NINE.

AND COMMISSIONER PECK IS MAKING HIS WAY OUT.

MY DAD ALWAYS LIKED JOHNNY HUSSLE CHAIR.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER PECK HAS LEFT THE MEETING.

DO I HEAR ANY, UH, COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR, OR MOTION FOR APPROVAL? ON ITEM NUMBER NINE, MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND MOTION APPROVE BY COUNCILMAN COURAGE.

SECOND BY, UH, GARCIA.

GARCIA.

MY APOLOGIES.

PLEASE CONDUCT THE ROLL CALL VOTE.

COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES.

COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES.

COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YES.

COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES.

COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES.

COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE.

AYE.

COUNCILMAN COURAGE? YES.

CHAIR, PROFIT? YES.

MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL.

THANK YOU.

IT'S TWO 15 AND COMMISSIONER PECK IS CHATTING AND REJOINING THE MEETING.

ALL RIGHT.

ONTO

[Comprehensive Master Plan Amendments  ]

THE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER 16.

DO WE HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION? YES, WE DO, OF COURSE.

SO, ITEM NUMBER 16 IS PLAN AMENDMENT 2022 DASH 16 0 0 0 6.

UH, IT'S A REQUEST TO CHANGE A PLAN AMENDMENT FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FOR A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

THE PROPOSED MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, UH, IS COMPATIBLE WITH OTHER LAND USES IN LONG DETS ELKHORN, A SECONDARY ARTERIAL.

THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES INCLUDE A MIX OF LAND USES TO INCLUDE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, URBAN, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, COMMERCIAL AND URBAN MIXED USE.

THE INTRODUCTION OF MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WILL PERMIT A HIGHER DENSITY OF RESIDENTIAL AND MULTI-FAMILY USES.

THIS REQUEST IS ALSO SUITABLE WITH, UH, GOALS AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO ENSURE THAT THE FUTURE LAND USE CLASSIFICATIONS ADJACENT TO THE MILITARY INSTALLATIONS ARE WELL SUITED TO THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE AREA.

UH, JOINT BASE SAN ANTONIO DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENT.

THANK, AND THAT CONCLUDES THE SAS PRESENTATION AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.

OKAY.

WE'LL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.

HI.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

KEVIN DINDA,

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BROWN AND ORTIZ ONE 12 EAST PECAN STREET.

I'VE PREPARED A BRIEF PRESENTATION TO HELP US WALK THROUGH THIS OVERALL REQUEST.

I'M SORRY.

CAN'T HEAR YOU.

YOU CAN'T HEAR ME? OKAY.

SORRY.

LEMME RESTATE THAT.

KEVIN DENDA, UH, BROWN ORTIZ, ONE 12 EAST PECAN STREET.

UM, SO THE PRESENTATION BEFORE YOU, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE FIRST SLIDE IS A GENERAL AERIAL VIEW OF THIS PROPERTY.

IT'S APPROXIMATELY 30 ACRES LOCATED JUST NORTHEAST OF DIETZ, ELKHORN ROAD AND OLD FREDERICKSBURG.

IT'S PRIMARILY UNDEVELOPED.

THERE IS FRONTAGE ALONG DEETS ELKHORN, UH, WITH PRIMARY FRONTAGE ALONG OLD FREDERICKSBURG.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PROPERTY IS ENTIRELY OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS.

SO THERE IS NO ZONING IN THIS AREA.

UH, JUST WANTED TO REFERENCE THAT FOR, UM, REFERENCE SAKE.

SO THIS SLIDE ACTUALLY SHOWS THE, UH, CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE OF THE PROPERTY.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT, UH, WE ARE DESIGNATED LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL PURSUANT TO THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION MILITARY PROTECTION AREA.

SO ALL THAT TO SAY THAT THIS PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO BECAUSE OF THE MILITARY PROTECTION AREA, BECAUSE WE ARE WITHIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE OF CAMP BULLETS.

UH, IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE CITY ADOPTED THE E T J M P A, UH, AFTER THEIR ATTEMPT TO ANNEX THIS PROPERTY AND FAILURE, UM, IT WAS PUT TO A VOTE FROM CITIZENS IN THE AREA.

THE CITIZENS HAD A OPTION TO EITHER BE ANNEXED INTO CITY LIMITS FOR FULL PURPOSES, OR, UM, ADOPT LAND USE CONTROLS PURSUANT TO THE THEN EXISTING MILITARY, UH, LAND USE STUDY.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO THE OVERALL REQUEST TODAY IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY WITH A, UH, TRADITIONAL APARTMENT COMPLEX, UH, CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 600 UNITS, WHICH WOULD FACTOR OUT TO ROUGHLY 20 UNITS PER ACRE.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THIS SLIDE ACTUALLY SHOWS THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMING TO THE AREA.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE PLATS, UH, PRELIMINARILY FILED.

UM, AND THERE IS A LARGE, UH, THERE IS A NUMBER OF DEVELOPMENT COMING TO THIS AREA, INCLUDING AN H E B ALONG I 10.

THIS EXHIBIT ALSO SHOWS THAT WE ARE WITHIN HALF A MILE OF I 10.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND THIS SLIDE SHOWS THAT OUR OVERALL REQUEST WAS PRESENTED TO J B SS A, UH, FOR THEIR INPUT.

AS I STATED AT THE OUTSET, WE ARE WITHIN THE E T J M P A.

THE E T J M P A WAS ADOPTED TO PROTECT, UM, LAND USES AROUND THE MILITARY, UM, FACILITIES.

AND IN THIS INSTANCE, J B S A IS IN NON OPPOSITION TO OUR PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST.

AND FINALLY, IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT POPULATION AND DEVELOPMENT IS COMING TO SAN ANTONIO AND TO THE GREATER BEXAR COUNTY AREA.

SO IT IS, WITH THAT IN MIND, WE NEED TO START PLANNING FOR A WAY TO HOUSE INDIVIDUALS HOW GROWTH IS GOING TO BE MANAGED IN SAN ANTONIO AND IN THE GREATER BEAR COUNTY AREA.

THAT'S IT.

SO, LIKE I SAID, MY NAME'S KEVIN DINDA.

I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ALSO WITH ME IS THE PROPOSED DEVELOPER AND THE ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, KEVIN.

WE HAVE A COUPLE CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.

UH, MR. GIBBONS, AGAIN, IF YOU WANNA SPEAK ABOUT THIS ITEM AGAIN.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU.

NAME AGAINS, BRENDAN GIBBONS WITH GREATER EDWARDS AQUIFER ALLIANCE.

UM, I WON'T REITERATE THE CONCERNS ABOUT IMPERVIOUS COVER, BUT THEY APPLY AGAIN HERE, UH, FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.

AND, UH, WE'RE FURTHER OPPOSED, UH, TO THIS ONE BECAUSE IT, IT ALLOWS THE CONSTRUCTION OF A MORE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAN CONTEMPLATED IN THIS, UM, E T J M P A THAT'S SO CLOSE TO SYBIL OAK CREEK, WHICH IS A, A WATERWAY THAT'S LINED WITH RECHARGE FEATURES, UH, IN THIS AREA.

WE'RE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE DISPLACEMENT OF ENDANGERED GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLERS ONTO, UH, CAMP BOLUS.

UM, SO WE THINK IT WOULD BE PRUDENT THAT, UH, AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION THAT THE APPLICANT ENROLLED WITH THE SOUTHERN EDWARDS PLATEAU HABITAT CONSERVATION PLAN OR APPLIED TO THE, WITH THE NATIONAL FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE FOR AN INCIDENTAL TAKE PERMIT CONSISTENT WITH THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT.

UM, AND, UH, UH, JUST TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF, UH, THE PLAN STATING THAT THE PLAN WOULD BE AMENDED LATER, UM,

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THAT THE APPLICANT JUST CITED IF, IF THERE IS TO BE AN AMENDMENT, IT SHOULD BE A COMPREHENSIVE AMENDMENT, YOU KNOW, INVOLVING ALL SECTORS OF THE COMMUNITY SITTING TOGETHER AND COMING UP WITH AN UPDATE TO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE PIECE, THE PIECEMEAL APPROACH IS WHAT THREATENS THE AQUIFER SO MUCH.

UM, AND WE THINK IF EVERYONE SAT AROUND AND REPEATED THAT EFFORT, WE'D HAVE, YOU KNOW, A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT, YOU KNOW, MET OUR MODERN, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, HOUSING DEMAND PROJECTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UM, IT'S LAUREL PORTER.

HI, HOW ARE YOU? CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES.

MY NAME IS LAUREL PORTER AND I'M AT 2 9 4 7 4 OLD FREDERICKSBURG ROAD.

AND YOU SAW IN THE POWERPOINT MY HOUSE IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE PROPOSED AREA, WHERE FOR THE FIRST TIME I DID HEAR THAT THEY WANT TO PUT UP AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.

UM, IT'S BEEN A TRYING TIME FOR US.

I'VE LIVED AT THAT PROPERTY FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS AND AS IF THE LEMON CREEK DEVELOPMENT WASN'T QUITE SCARY ENOUGH FOR US IN OUR LIVESTOCK, WE ARE NOW LEARNING THAT THEY WISH TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY NEXT TO ME.

UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO COME AND VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

ALRIGHT, WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS.

WE'LL START ON MY RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER MILAM, START THE LEFT .

WE CAN DO THAT.

COUNCILMAN COURAGE.

THANK YOU.

YES.

I'LL, I'LL ASK, UH, THE DEVELOPER OR THE REPRESENTATIVE, UH, WHAT STEPS ARE WILL BE ANTICIPATED TO HELP PROTECT THE, THE AQUIFER IN THE AREA? COUNCILMAN, THIS PROPERTY IS FULLY IN THE E T J AND WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE WATER QUALITY ORDINANCE BECAUSE OF OUR LOCATION AND THE CITY'S E T J.

COULD YOU TELL US WHAT THAT MEANS BY, UH, THE WALL WATER QUALITY ORDINANCE, UH, REQUIREMENTS? WE WILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH EVERY PROVISION WITHIN THE WATER QUALITY ORDINANCE APPLICABLE TO PROPERTIES IN THE E T J.

UM, DON'T KNOW EXACTLY OFFHAND WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE, BUT THERE IS NO WAY FOR US TO GET OUT OF, UM, THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

SO, UM, COMMISSIONER SLASH COUNCILMAN DANIEL ORTIZ, UH, WITH BROWN ORTIZ ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT AS WELL.

UM, A LITTLE MORE SPECIFICALLY, THIS PROPERTY'S OVER THE CONTRIBUTING ZONE.

UH, SO IT'S SUBJECT TO THE WATER QUALITY ORDINANCE, BUT IN A VERY DIFFERENT WAY THAN THE, THE SPEAKER, UH, POINTED OUT FOR THE PROPERTY THAT'S OVER THE FULL RECHARGE ZONE.

SO IT IS REGULATED.

YOU HAVE TO SUBMIT TO BOTH THE CITY AND T C E Q AND SO ON AND SO FORTH TO GET ALL PLANS, UH, REVIEWED AND APPROVED, WHICH WE WILL DO.

TOM CARTER WITH PAPE DAWSON IS HERE.

UM, IF YOU WANT TO HEAR IN MORE DETAIL ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS.

BUT AGAIN, I WANTED TO POINT OUT VERY IMPORTANT, CONTRIBUTING THIS PROPERTY VERSUS RECHARGE ZONE WAS THE OTHER PROPERTY.

NUMBER ONE.

ALSO, THERE WAS A REFERENCE TO HABITAT STUDY.

THIS PROPERTY WILL NOT BE DEEMED, UM, HABITAT, UH, WHICH TOM CARTER, UM, WHICH IS NOT RELATED TO WATER QUALITY, BUT I THINK IS ANOTHER ASPECT OF, OF REGULATORY OVERSIGHT.

UM, WHICH TOM CARTER WITH PAP DAWSON CAN ALSO ADDRESS.

I WON'T ASK YOU FOR ANY MORE HEARING THAT IT'S ON THE CON CONTRIBUTING ZONE RATHER THAN RECHARGE ZONE.

THANK YOU, MR. BUSTAMANTE.

THANK YOU.

UM, ALONG THE SAME LINES, I'M GONNA FOLLOW UP ON ONE THING, MR. ORTIZ.

UM, AND MAYBE THE ENGINEER CAN HELP AS WELL.

ONE THING THAT MR. GIBBONS BROUGHT UP WAS, UH, THE PROXIMITY TO SLO CREEK.

SO, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE SLO CREEK IS IN RELATION TO THIS PROPERTY OR WHAT STEPS WOULD BE NECESSARY OR DO YOU ANTICIPATE WOULD BE NECESSARY, UH, TO AVOID EFFLUENT THERE? WELL, THE, THE PROPERTY IS, UH, AGAIN, IT'S A CONVERTING ZONE PROPERTY.

I GUESS WE'RE THING TOM CARTER WITH PEDOS ENGINEERS, UH, 2000 NORTHWEST OF FOUR 10.

UM, WHAT WE DO ON ANY CONTINUING ZONE OR RECHARGE ZONE PROPERTY IS THAT THERE'LL BE, UH, A WATER POLLUTION ABATEMENT PLAN THAT'S, THAT IS PUT TOGETHER, UH, THAT CONSISTS OF MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.

IN THIS CASE IT WILL PROBABLY BE SAND FILTER BASINS.

THERE'S SOME OTHER KIND OF DETENTION BASIN.

AND SO ANY WATER THAT RUNS OFF OF IMPERVIOUS COVER IS GONNA GO THROUGH THAT BASIN AND AND BE TREATED TO REMOVING 80% OF THE, THE SEDIMENT LOAD BEFORE IT'S DISCHARGED, UM, AWAY FROM THE SITE.

UM, LEMON CREEK, WHICH, WHICH DOES FLOW INTO THE SLO IS, IS, YOU KNOW, DOWNSTREAM OF THIS, THAT THAT WOULD BE THE, THE PLACE THAT THE WATER WOULD GO.

BUT IT GETS CLEANED UP ON SITE BEFORE IT LEAVES.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? NO QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER GARCIA? UH,

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THAT IS CORRECT.

COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER PECK, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? NO.

QUE COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER ZUKI? NO QUESTION.

COMMISSIONER MILAM, YOU'VE, YOU'VE GONE BACK AROUND THE TIME FOR YOU WELL, NOT GOT GOOD, BECAUSE I HAD ABOUT A FOUR-PART QUESTION.

I'VE GOTTEN ABOUT THREE OF THEM ANSWERS, SO THANKS.

BUT I, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW AS WELL, UH, GIVEN THAT YOU'RE BUDDING UP TO NEXT TO AGRICULTURAL, WHAT SORTS OF, UH, BUFFER ZONES OR, OR OTHER WAYS OF PLATTING THIS HAVE YOU ALL THOUGHT ABOUT? SO RIGHT NOW, COMMISSIONER, THE LAND PLAN THAT WE HAVE PREPARED IS PRELIMINARY IN NATURE, BUT THERE IS A BUFFER ALONG THE NORTHERN PORTION OF OUR PROPERTY LINE.

UH, DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC FOOT THAT WE CAN GIVE YOU NOW, BUT THERE WILL BE A BUFFER BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY AND THE TIES TO OUR NORTH.

AND I GUESS THE SECOND PIECE OF THAT IS, I UNDERSTAND THAT FAIR OAKS RANCH HAS HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC WITH AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.

HAVE, HAVE YOU MET WITH THEM? NOT, NOT AT THIS TIME.

UH, BUT WE WILL, I BELIEVE THE CITY WANTS TO KEEP FAIR OAKS INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS.

SO FAIR OAKS HAS BEEN, INVOL HAS BEEN INVITED TO, UH, TAKE PART IN THE T I A SCOPING PROCESS FOR THIS PROPERTY.

AND MAYBE THE CITY CAN SPEAK MORE TO THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANKS.

UH, A LOT OF THE COMMENTS I THINK HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.

UM, MAYBE STAFF CAN CLARIFY THE, UM, THE WORK'S BEING DONE WITH THE CITY OF FAIR OAKS.

YES.

UM, SO WE DON'T HAVE A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH FAIR OAKS RANCH RIGHT NOW.

SO ALL OF OUR COMMUNICATION IS JUST COURTESY.

UM, SO WHENEVER WE HAVE A PLAN AMENDMENT THAT IS ABUTTING FAIR OAKS RANCH, WE SEND THE, THE, UM, CITY MANAGER, THE APPLICATION AND INFORM THEM, INFORM THEM OF THE DATES OF THE MEETINGS.

UM, AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE MET WITH THEM, UH, WITH, UH, OUR TRAFFIC TEAM TO TALK ABOUT THEIR CONCERNS.

UH, THE CITY'S PURVIEW, UH, OUT THERE IS VERY LIMITED SINCE IT IS IN THE E T J.

THE T I A SCOPING MEETINGS IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, CHRISTINA DELA CRUZ HAS AGREED TO, UH, INCLUDE FAIR OAKS RANCH IN FOR ANY OF THESE PROPERTIES.

UH, JUST SO THEY CAN, AS A COURTESY, THEY CAN GIVE INPUT TO THOSE.

BUT THE REST OF THOSE REVIEWS ARE TECHNICALLY GONNA BE THROUGH BEXAR COUNTY.

THANKS.

UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THAT COMMUNITIES COOPERATE.

THIS IS A HIGH GROWTH AREA.

UM, WE'VE, WE'VE APPROVED SEVERAL MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS ALONG DESAL CORN.

OBVIOUSLY THE LEMON CREEK IS A BIG DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS GONNA BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS AS WELL.

SO I JUST ASK THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT HOPEFULLY THERE'S SOME COOPERATION BETWEEN ALL THE PARTIES, INCLUDING THE DEVELOPERS AND THE MUNICIPALITIES TO ENSURE THAT NOT OVERBURDENING THAN THE THE ROADS, SCHOOLS, ET CETERA.

UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WITH WHAT'S GOING IN OUT THERE, THIS MAKES SENSE AND I'LL BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS, BUT I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I MOVE THAT WE SUPPORT IT.

MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA.

SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PECK, PLEASE TAKE A VOTE.

COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES.

COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES.

COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YES.

COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? NO.

COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES.

COMMISSIONER MILAM? NO.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE? NO.

COUNCILMAN COURAGE? YES.

COMMISSIONER PECK PECK? YES.

CHAIR PROFIT? YES.

MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL.

THANK YOU.

ON TO ITEM NUMBER 17.

OH, OKAY.

WE'LL HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION FIRST.

IT'S OKAY.

AND THEN JUST MAKE SURE YOU GET THIS BACK TO ME.

.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

INE MAKO ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

ARM NUMBER 17 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL RESOLUTION TO THE, TO AMEND THE NEAR NORTHWEST COMMUNITY PLAN.

FROM NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, LOCATED AT 10 16 CINCINNATI AVENUE, THERE ARE 20 NOTICES SENT OUT.

ZERO IN SUPPORT, ZERO IN OPPOSITION WITHIN THE 200 FEET, 43 NOTICES IN SUPPORT OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET.

WOODLAWN LAKE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND JEFFERSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ARE IN SUPPORT.

THE APPLICANT SEEKS A PLAN AMENDMENT TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL TO REZONE TO C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR BAR TAVERN WITH COVER CHARGE THREE OR MORE DAYS PER WEEK.

THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL LAND USES FITTING AS THERE IS A MIX OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES, LIKE COMMERCIAL USES

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AND PARK SPACE IN THE AREA.

THE PROPOSED COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL LANDS IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA.

COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL WOULD INTRODUCE A MEDIUM TO HIGHER DENSITY LAND USE THAT IS NOT ALIGNED WITH THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD.

CHARACTER STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND NOW APPLICANT, UH, PLEASE HAVE YOUR PRESENTATION.

SO WE ARE, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, REZONE THE LIGHTHOUSE.

OH, I'M SORRY.

MY NAME IS, UH, RENEE ZAMORA.

I'M REPRESENTING THE LIGHTHOUSE NOW.

I'M THE OWNER.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, REZONE, UH, LIGHTHOUSE TO C TO C CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR A BAR, BEING ABLE TO CHARGE COVER, UH, THREE OR MORE DAYS A WEEK.

AND, UH, PUT OUR DECKS BACK UP, WHICH WERE ORIGINALLY, UH, INSTALLED BEFORE WE OPENED.

AND IT GOT OUR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.

WE RECEIVED OUR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WITH THE DECKS UP.

UH, ALMOST THREE YEARS LATER, CITY CAME IN AND SAID THAT WE WERE, UH, NOT OPERATING WITHIN OUR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.

AND, UH, THAT'S MY FAULT.

I MISSED THAT BEING A NEW BAR OWNER.

AND WE WERE TOLD THAT WE HAD TO TAKE 'EM DOWN IMMEDIATELY, WHICH I, I DID.

UH, WORKING WITH, UH, THE CITY, UH, ROXANNE AND, UH, CODE, UM, AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN ZONING, THEY ALL KNOW THAT WE'RE ALL ABOUT, UM, TRYING TO BE, UM, IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY AND DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN.

AND, UH, I DON'T, I DON'T, I DIDN'T HEAR THE NUMBER OF LETTERS OF SUPPORT, BUT ALL OF THE LETTERS OF SUPPORT ARE FOR THE DECKS TO BE PUT BACK UP, UM, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN ENJOY THE BEAUTIFUL SCENERY, UH, OUTSIDE IN WOODLAWN LAKE.

SO I PUT THIS LITTLE, I DIDN'T PUT A POWERPOINT TOGETHER, JUST A LITTLE P D F OF SOME OF THE THINGS, UM, THAT WE'VE DONE HERE.

AND, AND IT SAYS, UH, UH, FOR DECADES, UH, 10 16 CINCINNATI HAS BEEN A CULTURAL HUB WHERE PEOPLE GATHER TO DISCUSS IDEAS, CELEBRATE AND LISTEN TO MUSIC.

UM, THIS PHOTO OF HERE, THIS OLDER COUPLE, THIS IS OUR, OUR, THESE ARE LANDLORDS.

THEY'VE BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY AND IN THE AREA FOR OVER 60 YEARS.

AND THEN I JUST PUT SOME PHOTOS OF THE LIVE MUSIC THAT WE HAVE INSIDE, WHICH WE DID NOT KNOW THAT WE COULD NOT CHARGE A COVER, UH, WHEN WE WERE CHARGING A COVER.

AND, UH, ONCE WE WERE TOLD WE COULD NOT DO THAT, WE IMMEDIATELY STOPPED, UH, SO WE COULD BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY.

UM, ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS ABOUT CHARGING COVER, NOT FOR US, IT'S TO PAY THE BAND MEMBERS.

YOU KNOW, MUSICIANS DON'T GET PAID A LOT.

AND WE LOVE MUSIC HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.

SO AT LIGHTHOUSE, UH, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO GET THEM, UM, PAID AND, YOU KNOW, GET WHAT THEY DESERVE AND LET THEM KNOW THAT WE APPRECIATE THEM.

UH, THOSE, ANOTHER PHOTO IS THERE.

WE HAD LOCAL POETS, UH, OUT, YOU KNOW, ENJOYING THE DECKS, DISCUSSING IDEAS, DISCUSSING POETRY, UM, AND THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS OUR VISION IS TO AND INTENTION ARE AN INTEGRAL PART OF THRIVING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE.

WE'VE, UM, EVERY YEAR THAT WE'VE BEEN OPEN, WE'VE HAD TOY DRIVES.

UH, ANOTHER PHOTO IS OF THE POETS COMING BACK INSIDE AND DOING POETRY TO MUSIC.

WE HAVE A LOT OF RUNNING GROUPS THAT WE GET TOGETHER WITH WHO GO AND HAVE EVENTS AND RUN AROUND THE LAKE AND THEN COME BACK.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE THAT, UM, COME AND, UM, ENJOY, UM, THE LIGHTHOUSE LOUNGE AFTER THEIR RUN, AFTER THEY'RE GATHERING.

THIS IS RECENTLY, UH, ST.

PATRICK'S DAY.

AND, UM, IT WOULD'VE BEEN MUCH NICER IF THEY WOULD'VE HAD THE DECKS OUT THERE BECAUSE THEY'VE HAD 'EM BEFORE, UM, IN PAST YEARS.

UM, NEXT SLIDE.

UH, WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE A PLACE WHERE THE COMMUNITY LEADERS, ARTISTS AND PEOPLE JUST PASSING THROUGH CAN SOAK UP THE VIBRANCY OF OUR CITY ON THE TOP LEFT CORNERS, UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER HER NAME, BUT SHE'S A CHILDREN'S AUTHOR AND SHE CHOSE LIGHTHOUSE LOUNGE TO RELEASE HER BOOK.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD MARIACHI'S PEOPLE THAT PLAY CULTURAL MUSIC WITH ACCORDIONS.

UM, THAT IS OUR HOMAGE TO THE CITY.

IF YOU KNOW WHERE WOODLAWN LAKE IS, YOU KNOW THAT IT, IT'S VERY CLOSE TO LITTLE FLOWER CATHOLIC CHURCH AND SCHOOL.

I WENT TO LITTLE FLOWER.

I'M FROM THE AREA.

SO THAT IS OUR HOMAGE TO, UH, LITTLE FLOWER.

UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THAT THAT'S, UM, UH, UM, UM, I CAN'T THINK OF IT RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY SAINT THERESA WHO IS A LITTLE FLOWER.

IT'S NOT, UM, THE VIRGIN MARY.

SO THEY COME AND THINK IT'S THE VIRGIN MARY, BUT IT'S NOT.

AND THAT'S OUR HOMAGE TO THIS, TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO THE CHURCH.

AND THAT'S ONE OF OUR, UH, LITTLE, UH, THE KIDS IN THE CORNER.

THAT'S ONE OF OUR LITTLE, UM, LOGOS THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHAT WE REPRESENT.

THAT'S OUR, THAT'S ACTUALLY A DUCK THAT WAS GIVEN TO US AND WE JUST KIND OF MADE 'EM INTO A CARTOON CHARACTER.

BUT WE HAVE THE LIGHTHOUSE AND THE CITY SKYLINE, UH, BEHIND THEM BECAUSE WE'RE PROUD OF THAT AND WE'RE PROUD OF THAT VIEW, .

AND, UM, THAT'S ONE OF OUR LITTLE THINGS THAT WE SAY IS LIKE, UH, SEE Y'ALL LAKESIDE.

SO, AND THAT'S IT.

WE DON'T WANNA DO ANYTHING MORE THAN WHAT WE WERE DOING BEFORE.

WE JUST WANT TO DO IT WITHIN THE RULES AND THE, I GUESS THE CONSTRUCTION OR THE FRAMEWORK OF THE CITY AND BE IN CODE AND BE COMPLIANCE WITH EVERYTHING THAT, UH, WE CAN BE.

AND, UH, THAT'S IT.

I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

I THANK YOU, SIR.

WE HAVE ONE, UH, SYSTEM TO BE HEARD, AND I APOLOGIZE.

IT'S STEVEN, BUT CANNOT MAKE OUT YOUR LAST NAME.

I'M SORRY.

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SO YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.

UH, YES.

UH, STEFAN VILA, 10 51 WAVERLEY AVENUE.

UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS AFTERNOON, UH, TO ALLOW ME TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE REZONING FOR LIGHTHOUSE LOUNGE, UH, FOUND AT, UH, 10 16 CINCINNATI AVENUE.

A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF.

UH, I'M A LONG TIME RESIDENT, MY FAMILY AND I OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WOODLAWN WOODLAWN LAKE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR OVER 30 YEARS.

UH, I'M ONLY 38, BUT LIKE MY FAMILY'S BEEN LIVING THERE, MY GRANDPARENTS, UH, FOR A LONG TIME.

SO OUR HOUSE PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY WITHIN ABOUT 150 YARDS FROM THE LIGHTHOUSE LOUNGE.

SO I'M, UH, I'VE BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR, FOR MY ENTIRE LIFE.

UM, MYSELF, I'M A WOODLAWN ASSOCIATION, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD MEMBER.

UM, I AM A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER.

UH, I'M A FOUNDING BOARD MEMBER FOR A LOCAL CHARTER PUBLIC SCHOOL IN THE AREA.

UH, I'M A MUSICIAN.

UH, I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PERFORM WITH BAND MATES AT LIGHTHOUSE LOUNGE ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS.

AND WE ALWAYS LOVE GOING THERE AND THE CROWD AND THE COMMUNITY THAT COMES OUT FOR WHEN WE DO PERFORM.

UH, AND THEN ALSO I'M CONSIDER MYSELF TO BE A REGULAR AT THE LOUNGE.

UM, SO I'M JUST HERE TODAY TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE REZONING, AS RENEE MENTIONED, UH, BEFORE ME, LIKE ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY HAVE GOING ON.

NOT ONLY ARE THEY JUST A NEIGHBORHOOD LOUNGE, BUT THEY HAVE, UM, A REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, THROUGH EVENTS, THROUGH RUNNING GROUPS, CYCLING GROUPS THAT USE THEIR FACILITIES OR THEIR PLACE OF BUSINESS AS A MEETING SPACE.

UM, ALSO WE'VE HAD SOME, UH, ONE FRIEND OF MINE WHO WAS RUNNING FOR A SCHOOL BOARD OF S A I S D DISTRICT SEVEN, SHE HAD HER LIKE, COMMUNITY REACH OUT THERE AT THE LIGHTHOUSE NOW.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT, THAT HAVE SINCE, UM, HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO HAPPEN WITH THE LEARNING OF THE ZONING, LIKE THE WHAT, WHAT THE ACTUAL ZONING IS CURRENTLY.

SO, UH, THAT'S WHY I SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE REZONING SO WE CAN HAVE THOSE ITEMS BACK.

UH, AND ALL OF THOSE, UM, THINGS THAT WERE HAPPENING BEFORE.

SO, UM, SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS, LIKE IN SOME OF THE PHOTOS YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED IF, LIKE THEY HAVE CLASSIC CAR SHOWS THAT ARE OPEN TO ALL AGES, FAMILY MEMBERS, UH, UH, EVEN UH, LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD MARKETS THAT THEY CALL LIKE, UH, UH, BGA AND THE BARRIO.

SO, UH, ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING.

AND, UH, I JUST WANTED TO BE ON RECORD AND JUST PRO PROVIDE MY SUPPORT IN FAVOR OF THE REZONING.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

THANKS FOR COMING OUT TODAY.

I'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS THIS TIME I WILL START WITH COMMISSIONER MILO.

WILL.

OKAY.

WELL, , SO I'M, I'M WONDERING ABOUT THE NOISE FACTOR OF HAVING, UH, MUSICIANS PLAYING LIVE AND HAVING SPEAKERS AND ET CETERA.

'CAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHAT BROUGHT US HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

UH, YES MA'AM.

SO, UH, WE, UH, HAVE ALWAYS BEEN IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE NOISE.

UM, UH, I SPOKE, WE HAD A WOODLAWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAD THEIR, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING, AND WE ALWAYS HAVE A SAFE OFFICER.

AND, UH, YESTERDAY, UH, WE HAD A DIFFERENT ONE.

UH, BUT HE ALSO WORKS WITH A SAFE OFFICER GARCIA, AND I'VE SPOKEN WITH BOTH OF THEM.

AND, AND, UM, THIS IS FROM THEM SAYING THAT THEY BELIEVE WHOEVER HAS BEEN CALLING ABOUT NOISE, BECAUSE IT'S FROM THE SAME, UH, ADDRESS, UH, HAS SOME TYPE OF AGENDA WITH THE BAR.

AND WHEN WE FIRST GOT THESE CALLS, WHEN ACTUALLY WENT OUT AND BOUGHT A DB READER AND, UH, WE'RE GOVERNING OURSELVES AND WE WERE NEVER OUT OF THE, OF THE RANGE, WHETHER IT WAS DURING THE DAYTIME OR THE NIGHTTIME.

AND I WANNA SAY IT WAS MAYBE A MONTH OR TWO AGO WHEN, UH, THIS WHOLE, THE NOISE COMMISSION GOT TOGETHER AND THEY WERE DOING THIS WHOLE, UH, NEW NOISE, UH, ORDINANCE, UH, DEAL THAT THEY CALLED AND THEY SAID, HEY, CAN WE MEET WITH YOU? AND, UM, I THOUGHT IT WAS KIND OF, UM, AWKWARD OR, OR WEIRD JUST BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO MEET AT 1:00 AM YOU KNOW, DURING THE NIGHT THAT WE KNEW THAT THEY HAD A, THAT WE HAD A BAND AND I WAS, YOU KNOW, NO PROBLEM.

YOU KNOW, AND THEY CAME IN, UH, THREE OF THEM, UM, AND THEY, THEY, RIGHT OFF THE BAT, THEY SAID, WE ALREADY KNOW WE DON'T HAVE TO PULL THE METER.

UM, YOU GUYS ARE WELL WITHIN THE DB, UM, LEVELS OR DECIBEL LEVELS AND, UH, SHOWED THEM OUR, OUR METER THAT WE HAVE.

UM, SO I, UM, YESTERDAY THE OFFICER DID TELL ME THAT MAYBE YOU, YOU SHOULD MEET WITH THE NEIGHBOR WITH HAS, UH, A PROBLEM WITH WHAT'S GOING ON OR THE NOISE AND THEN MAYBE YOU CAN, UH, I FORGOT WHAT IT'S CALLED.

IT WAS CALLED SOMETHING RESOLUTION.

AND I HAD NO IDEA THAT WE COULD DO THAT WHERE IT'S FREE, THE OFFICERS WILL BE THERE AND, AND WE CAN KIND OF SEE HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.

AND I, AND THIS WAS JUST YESTERDAY AND I TOLD HIM I'M WILLING TO DO THAT BECAUSE, UM, LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE'RE ALL ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WORKING, UM, WITH, WITH, WITH EVERYONE.

AND UNTIL THIS, AND THIS WAS A NEW NEIGHBOR THAT CAME IN.

SO FOR THE TWO AND A HALF YEARS THAT WE WERE REALLY HAD THE LIVE MUSIC AND THE AMPL AMPLIFICATION OUTSIDE, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY CALLS FOR NOISE UNTIL THE NEW NEIGHBOR MOVED IN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, SO WHATEVER I CAN DO TO FIX THAT WITH THEM AND, UM, MAKE THAT WORK, I'M, I'M, I'M WILLING TO DO 100%.

UM, HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

IF, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE I CAN, ANY INFORMATION I CAN GIVE YOU OR

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ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.

SO YOU ARE PLANNING ON MEETING, ON SETTING UP A MEETING WITH THAT? YES, I AM.

AND I'M, AND I, THE ONLY THING I HAVE TO DO IS JUST WAIT FOR A SAFE OFFICER GARCIA TO RETURN.

HE WAS OUT ON, IN THE, AT THE ACADEMY DOING IN-SERVICE.

SO WHEN HE COMES BACK, I'LL SET THAT UP WITH HIM AND THE NEIGHBOR SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND, 'CAUSE MAYBE THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NEW NOISE ORDINANCE OR, OR YOU KNOW, MAYBE I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THEM.

AND, UH, WE CAN COME TO SOME TYPE OF, OF RESOLUTION.

BUT, UH, DEALING WITH ROXY AND, AND THE NOISE AMPLIFICATION OUTSIDE WHEN SHE SAID, UH, WE COULD NOT HAVE THAT ANYMORE, WE IMMEDIATELY, UH, DISCONTINUED THAT AND, AND STOPPED IN OUR EFFORTS TO, YOU KNOW, BE IN COMPLIANCE AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAPPY, EVEN IF IT'S JUST THE ONE NEIGHBOR THAT'S, UH, A LITTLE BIT UPSET WITH US RIGHT NOW.

VERY INFORMATIVE.

THANK YOU.

YES, MA'AM.

COMMISSIONER ZUKI, UM, QUESTION TO THE STAFF.

UH, CAN YOU GO OVER THE NOTICES THAT WAS SENT AND THE RESPONSES FOR THIS CASE? UH, YES.

SO THERE WERE ZERO IN SUPPORT AND ZERO IN OPPOSITION WITHIN THE 200 FEET, BUT OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FEET, THERE WERE 43 NOTICES RECEIVED IN SUPPORT.

YES.

UM, AND THEN THE H O A, SO THE DESIGNATED H O A WAS WOODLAWN LAKE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND THEY WERE ALSO IN SUPPORT.

AND JEFFERSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET, WAS ALSO IN SUPPORT.

THANK YOU.

NO MORE QUICK, NO MORE QUESTION.

I, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADDRESS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.

UM, THAT WAS US AGAIN, WANTING TO BE IN COMPLIANCE AND MAKE SURE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS, EVEN IF IT WAS THE OVERLAPPING, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AWARE OF WHAT WE WERE DOING, UH, SO NOBODY GOT ANY, YOU KNOW, BAD FEELINGS OF SEEING THAT REZONING SIGN UP IN THE BUILDING AND SAYING, WHAT ARE THESE PEOPLE UP TO? WE WANTED EVERYBODY TO KNOW, AND WE REALLY WANTED EVERYBODY'S SUPPORT.

AND I WAS, UH, VERY HAPPY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, BOTH OF THEM, UH, TO SUPPORT US.

AND, UM, I THINK THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE PLACE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO HANG THEIR HAT ON AN ESTABLISHMENT, ESPECIALLY A BAR, IN MY OPINION, UH, I THINK SPEAKS VOLUMES FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING OVER THERE, WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, AND WHAT HOPEFULLY WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO.

OKAY.

GOOD.

UH, SO, UM, TELL ME HOW MANY YEARS HAVE YOU BEEN IN OPERATION? UH, WE OPENED IN AUGUST OF 2019, SO WE'RE COMING UP ON, UH, THREE YEARS.

AND HAVE YOU BEEN, UM, UH, AMPLIFYING MUSIC OUTDOORS THAT ENTIRE TIME? NO, MA'AM.

WE, WE NEVER PLAYED ANY MUSIC OUTDOORS.

THE BANDS WERE INSIDE.

WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD JUST PUT A, A, A SMALL SPEAKER OUTSIDE SO THAT THAT MUSIC COULD BE HEARD ON THE PATIO DECKS.

BUT NO, NO, NO, LIKE LARGE AMPLIFICATION, LIKE NO LARGE SPEAKERS OR THAT SPEAKER'S PROBABLY LIKE ABOUT THIS BIG.

SO THE BUT SPEAKER HAS BEEN IN OPERATION SINCE 2019.

UH, UH, THE OUTDOOR SPEAKER, RIGHT? UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHEN, YOU KNOW, ALL WE ALL GOT TOLD THAT WE WERE OUT OF, UH, COMPLIANCE BY HAVING THAT SPEAKER OUT THERE.

BUT UP UNTIL THAT POINT, PRIOR TO THAT, YES MA'AM.

PRIOR TO THAT, SINCE 2019, YOU'D BEEN HAVING THAT SPEAKER OUTDOORS? YES, MA'AM.

AND THE, UM, NOISE COMPLAINTS THAT INITIATED THIS WHOLE PROCESS.

MM-HMM.

STARTED COMING IN TO A MATTER OF MONTHS AGO, LATE, LIKE LATE 2021, I BELIEVE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

I I, IT'S CLEAR TO ME THAT YOU, UM, HAVE ACTED AS AN INTENT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND I'M IMPRESSED WITH THE, THE RELATIONSHIP THAT YOU HAVE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND THE NEIGHBORS AROUND YOU.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

MR. LOPEZ, THIS MAY BE FOR THE STAFF, BUT THE PROPOSED CHANGE, WOULD IT, IT'S REALLY DESIGNED TO ALLOW THEM TO PUT THE DECK BACK UP, RIGHT? AND THEN, AND THEN HAVE CHARGE COVER.

IS THAT THE, IS THAT THE CHANGE WE'RE LOOKING AT? RIGHT.

THEY EXPANDED THEIR USE SO THEY'RE NO LONGER NON-CONFORMING.

IN ORDER TO GET THE ZONING THAT THEY NEED, THEY NEED A C TWO CD IN ORDER TO HAVE THE OUTDOOR AMPLIFICATION OF SOUND.

AND SO THAT REQUIRES COMMUNITY, COMMERCIAL LAND USE INSTEAD OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, I THINK YOU HAVE A GREAT PLACE.

I THINK IT'S GREAT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I LOVE WOODLAND LAKE.

I HAVE GREAT MEMORIES THERE AND I'M ABSOLUTELY IN SUPPORT OF MAKING THIS CHANGE SO THAT WE CAN, YOU CAN CONTINUE TO EXPAND YOUR BUSINESS AND YOUR THANK YOU SERVICE.

SO CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PECK.

SO, UM, I GUESS DURING WORK SESSION STAFF SAID YOU, YOU HAD SUGGESTED AN ALTERNATE SOLUTION OF A, UM, C ONE, CORRECT.

A C ONE CD FOR A BAR TAVERN WITH THE COVER CHARGE WOULD BE, UM, IF REZONED WOULD BE ALLOWED.

HOWEVER, IT DOES NOT MEET THAT NEED FOR THEM OF THE OUTDOOR AMPLIFICATION IN C ONE DISTRICT.

YOU CANNOT, CANNOT HAVE OUTSIDE AMPLIFICATION OF SOUND.

SO THEN THE ONLY NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THAT WOULD BE THAT THE OUTDOOR DECK, I GUESS WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE THERE,

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OR DID THEY HAVE THE OUTDOOR DECK? COULD THAT HE COULD HAVE THE DECK, BUT THE, IT WOULD NOT BE ABLE, HE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE THE SMALL SPEAKER THAT HE WAS NOTING.

OKAY.

SO IT'S THE SPEAKER THAT'S THE RUB.

GOTCHA.

OKAY.

IS THERE, I MEAN, HOW NEGATIVELY WOULD THAT IMPACT YOUR BUSINESS IF THAT? UM, NOT NEGATIVELY AT ALL.

IT'S JUST SOMETHING FOR THE, FOR THE CUSTOMERS THAT ARE OUT THERE BECAUSE, UH, THE OTHER PART OF THAT SPEAKER WAS WE HAVE LIKE A, A DIGITAL JUKEBOX THAT'S INSIDE AND THAT WAS PIPED OUT.

THAT WAS PART OF IT THAT WAS PIPED OUT.

BUT, UM, LIKE I SAID THAT I, I DID PUT IN THE, IN OUR PLANNED AMENDMENT THAT IF WE DID HAVE THE AMPLIFICATION, IT WOULD BE TO, UH, BE USED IN THE FRAMEWORK OF THE, OF THE NORSE ORDINANCE AND BE IN COMPLIANCE, UH, WITH THAT.

DO YOU, BUT THAT'S NOT A DEAL BREAKER.

DO YOU DO OTHER THINGS OUT THERE THAT REQUIRE MICROPHONE? I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT OF COMMUNITY EVENTS.

IS THERE PEOPLE ON MICROPHONE AND YES, AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

LIKE WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT WHEN IT'S A NICE DAY, THEY'LL COME OUT AND THEY'LL DO THEIR POETRY OUT THERE.

OR WE'VE HAD, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD PEOPLE RUNNING FOR A JUDGE THAT ARE CURRENTLY RUNNING FOR A JUDGE.

THEY COME OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT EVERYBODY TO HEAR THEM.

SO THEY HAVE THE AMPLIFICATION OUT THERE.

BUT LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOTHING OUTRAGEOUS OR, OR WE'RE NOT BLARING ANY TYPE OF OF SOUND OUT THERE.

DOES THE RULES, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE'S HAVING A, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A POLITICAL EVENT OR THERE'S, THEY'RE READING POETRY OUTSIDE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND THEY'RE USING A MICROPHONE, IS THAT IN CONFLICT WITH THE RULES ALSO? SO IT'S ANY SOUND AMPLIFICATION? YES, SIR.

ANY OUTSIDE SOUND AMPLIFICATION.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER GARCIA.

I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED BECAUSE THE, UM, THE NOISE THAT, THAT PROBABLY WILL BE IMITATED WILL BE IN THE EVENING.

UH, MOST OF THE ACTIVITIES ARE IN THE DAYTIME.

I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA.

UH, THERE'S WOODLAWN LAKE, THE GYM IS USED QUITE A BIT.

PEOPLE WALK THEIR DOGS IN THE DOG PARK AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S JUST SOUTH OF THAT, THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED BY NOISE.

UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS IN TRANSITION, SO THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT OF NEW HOMEOWNERS IN THE AREA, WHICH IS GREAT.

SO I WAS CONCERNED THAT MAYBE THEY COULD HAVE, UH, AN EXTENSION OF TIME TO TALK SOME MORE TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE AROUND THERE BEFORE THE FINAL DECISION.

THAT'S IT.

THAT WAS JUST A COMMENT.

THAT WAS JUST A COMMENT, I GUESS.

YES.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER UHLER.

UM, YEAH, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, WHEN YOU RECEIVED YOUR CO DID YOU HAVE THE DECKING UP ALREADY AND ALSO THE UH, EXTERIOR SPEAKER? YES, MA'AM.

IN PLAY.

OKAY.

THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

UM, MR. ZAMORA, I'M GONNA SORT OF ASK YOU TO THINK ABOUT, UH, SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT COMMISSIONER PECK SAID, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THERE SEEMED TO BE THREE ISSUES HERE.

AND IF YOU HAD TO RANK THEM THE COVER, THE PATIO AND THE AMPLIFIED SOUND, HOW WOULD YOU RANK THEM? UH, THE PATIO BEING NUMBER ONE MOST IMPORTANT, THE COVER NUMBER TWO AND THE AMPLIFIED SOUND NUMBER THREE.

UH, I'M ON THE ZONING COMMISSION AS WELL.

YES SIR.

SO I'LL SEE YOU AGAIN.

YES, SIR.

UM, I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE AS OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE INDICATED, UM, YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB.

THE PROBLEM IS, AND, AND THIS IS TO MY MIND, MORE A ZONING ISSUE THAN A PLANNING ISSUE.

UM, ZONING RUNS WITH THE LAND, SO IF YOU SELL IT, ANOTHER PROPRIETOR CAN COME IN AND, YOU KNOW, BLAIR, THE SPEAKERS ALL NIGHT LONG.

AND SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THAT AS WE APPROACH ZONING.

OKAY.

UH, WILL YOU DO THAT? YES, SIR.

ABSOLUTELY.

SEE, I MADE IT A QUESTION.

COUNCILMAN COURAGE.

I THINK MY QUESTION WAS ANSWERED, BUT CAN, IS YOUR DECK BIG ENOUGH FOR A BAND TO GO OUT AND PLAY? IT IS.

OKAY.

CAN THEY HAVE A BAND GO OUT AND PLAY LIVE MUSIC, BUT IF IT'S NOT AMPLIFIED, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY, GUITAR, DRUMS, HORNS, IT'S STILL TECHNICALLY AMPLIFIED SOUND.

YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SO I, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO STATE ABOUT THE AMPLIFIED SOUND, AND IT'S NOT THE SPEAKER BEING OUT ON THE DECK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

IT'S FOR THE OTHER EVENTS THAT WE HAVE.

SO LIKE WHEN WE DO HAVE THE CAR SHOWS OR WE DO HAVE THE VINTAGE OLGA, UH, WHICH IS VERY, VERY POPULAR IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, THERE IS SOUND OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE VENDORS WILL, WILL PLAY THEIR OWN MUSIC.

SOMETIMES WE'LL HAVE A DJ OUT THERE TO PLAY TO THE CROWD.

AND I, AND I WOULD SAY PLAY TO THE CROWD BECAUSE IT'S JUST IN THE NOISE IS JUST IN THAT AREA.

I'M A, I'M A FORMER DJ AND I'M ALL ABOUT SOUND AND KNOWING HOW IT WORKS.

SO WHEN I SAY PLAYING TO THE CROWD, IT'S JUST THE PEOPLE THERE NOT PLAYING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO MAKE A MARK AND SAY, LET'S HAVE THIS

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MUSIC LOUD SO PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE'RE HERE.

NO, THEY KNOW THAT WE'RE HERE.

WE JUST WANT TO PLAY FOR THE PEOPLE AND THE CROWD.

AND LIKE I SAID, BE WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF THE LAW AND THE NOISE ORDINANCES.

THANK YOU.

REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS.

AND AGAIN, I'LL ECHO I THINK YOU PUT A GREAT PRESENTATION, UH, FROM WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM AND SEEN THE NUMEROUS LETTERS OF SUPPORT THAT, THAT YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY RUN A GOOD BUSINESS.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DELICATE SITUATION AS COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE AND PECK ARE ALLUDING TO, ESPECIALLY NOT SO MUCH WITH THE ZONING, BUT ALSO WITH THE, THE PLAN AMENDMENT.

IF WE CHANGE THE COMMERCIAL, UH, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, THERE'S ALSO HIGHER INTENSE USES CORRECT.

WITHIN THAT DESIGNATION THAT, UM, IF SOMETHING WAS TO HAPPEN, NOW I KNOW, AND YOU KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME C TWO AND THAT'S OF COURSE THE ZONING ISSUES THAT ARE AROUND YOU, BUT IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE, YOU KNOW, IT CHANGES.

RIGHT.

GOOD NEWS.

AND, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.

I THINK THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT I THINK THERE'S A SOLUTION TO KEEP YOU IN YOUR CURRENT PLAN USE AND TO, TO GET, CONTINUE THE BARK TO THE OUTDOOR PATIO, THE COVER CHARGE, UM, A LITTLE BIT ON THE FENCE ABOUT THE SOUND.

YES SIR.

I THINK IT'S, BUT IT'S JUST PART OF THE RULES.

IT'S MAYBE SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK THROUGH AS A, YOU KNOW, THE CITY AND THE STAFF TO ALLOW, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN LEVELS OF SOUND OR FOR CERTAIN EVENTS.

BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO KIND OF THINK ABOUT THE PLAN TO USE.

SO, UM, I'M GONNA LET, UH, I'M GONNA OPEN IT UP FOR A MOTION.

I CAN I SAY ONE MORE THING BEFORE THE MOTION, NOT JUST TO, FOR COUNCILMAN BUSANTE? UM, THAT WHEN WE, WHEN I WENT INTO THIS, I, I DIDN'T KNOW, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME.

SO I WENT IN AS C THREE AND WHEN TALKING TO, UH, ZONING, THEY WERE LIKE, THEY TOLD ME WHAT COULD HAPPEN.

SO IF WE DID GET Z LET'S SAY WE DID GET C THREE AND WE MOVED OUT, THEN A STARBUCKS COULD COME IN AN AUTO DEALERSHIP.

AND, AND I TOLD THEM IMMEDIATELY THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANT TO DO 'CAUSE I DON'T WANNA LEAVE MY NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE THAT.

SO IT WASN'T IMPORTANT FOR ME TO, TO UNDERSTAND IT AND, AND TO BRING IT DOWN TO WHERE WE CAN JUST GET WHAT WE WANT BACK AND NOT PUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN JEOPARDY.

I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT, THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR ME TO LEAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS SAFE AND SOUND AS IT, IT CAN BE WHEN WE LEAVE, WHENEVER THAT MAY BE.

HOPEFULLY NEVER.

HOPEFULLY I'M DEAD AND GONE AND THE BAR'S STILL THERE, BUT YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND, UM, LEAVE IT IN A GOOD SPOT WHEN WE DO LEAVE.

YEAH, I MEAN YOU DO, I MEAN DO APPEAR TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, BUT AGAIN, THINGS CHANGE.

SO THAT'S SORT OF, OF SORT OF MY THINKING.

BUT I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR UP FOR A MOTION.

I'LL MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

SECOND.

MOTION TO APPROVE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.

MOTION TO APPROVE APPLICANT'S REQUEST BY COMMISSIONER BUS.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LOPEZ.

COMMISSIONER GARCIA? NO.

COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES.

COMMISSIONER ZUKI? NO.

COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES.

COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.

AYE.

COUNCILMAN COURAGE? YES.

COMMISSIONER PECK? YES.

CHAIR PROFIT? YES.

MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL.

GOOD LUCK TO YOU.

UH, ITEM NUMBER 18, THE MEETING MOD DACO ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES CASE ITEM NUMBER 18 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE DOWNTOWN AREA REGIONAL CENTER PLAN FROM URBAN LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LOCATED AT THREE 17 EAST THEO AVENUE.

THERE WERE 15 NOTICES SENT OUT ZERO AND SUPPORT ONE IN OPPOSITION WITHIN THE 200 FEET.

AND THERE IS NO RESPONSE FROM LONE STAR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

THE APPLICANT SEEKS A PLAN AMENDMENT TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO REZONE TO IDZ TWO MEDIUM INTENSITY.

INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT WITH USE IS PERMITTED FOR EIGHT DWELLING UNITS.

THE PROPOSED MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA SURROUNDING LAND.

USES CONSIST OF URBAN LOW DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND PARKS OPEN SPACE.

INTRODUCING A MORE INTENSE LAND USE OF MEDIUM DENSITY COMMERCIAL WILL ALLOW FOR HIGHER RESIDENTIAL DENSITY THAT DOES NOT MATCH THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOW DENSITY CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS BEN BOWMAN.

UM, I'M HERE AS THE PROJECT ARCHITECT BUT ALSO MY WIFE AND I OWN THE PROJECT AND WE WOULD BE THE PROSPECTIVE DEVELOPER SHOULD IT BE APPROVED THROUGH THIS COMMITTEE AND ALSO THE ZONING COMMITTEE.

UM, THE, THE FIRST, I HAVE A BRIEF SLIDESHOW HERE.

I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT QUICK, BUT I'M HAPPY TO GO INTO ANY OF THESE ISSUES IN MORE DETAIL 'CAUSE THEY CAN BE KIND OF COMPLEX.

UM,

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THE FIRST SLIDE WE HEAR IS JUST A LOCATIONAL REFERENCE.

OUR SITE IS LOCATED JUST SOUTH OF THE URBAN DOWNTOWN LOOP AT THE INTERSECTION OF THEO IN THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER ACROSS FROM MISSION CONCEPTION.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THIS IS A QUICK GRAPHIC REFERENCE SO YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION OF THE SITE.

UH, I NOTICED THAT THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR WAS REFERENCED IN THE, UM, INTRODUCTION IMAGE THAT IS NOT PART OF THIS PROJECT AND THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE PROJECT SITE ACROSS THE RIVER.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT, UH, MISSION CO CONCEPTION PARK IS LOCATED THERE AND THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER FOUNDATION HAS ALSO INSTALLED THEIR RIVER RETURN INSTALLATION AT THE ANNOTATED UM, VIEWPOINT.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UH, HERE IS A QUICK REFERENCE TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER IMMEDIATELY AROUND OUR SITE.

INLAND SITES IN THIS AREA TYPICALLY ARE REPRESENTED BY VERY MODEST RESIDENTIAL RENTAL PROPERTY AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE IN ITEMS A AND B IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO OUR SITE.

RIVER BOUND SITES ADJACENT TO OUR SITE, UH, TO THE NORTH IS A QUITE SUBSTANTIAL SINGLE FAMILY PRIMARY RESIDENCE INTO THE SOUTH IS ALSO A QUITE SUBSTANTIAL SINGLE FAMILY PRI PRIMARY RESIDENCE ACCORDING TO B C AD, THOSE TWO PROPERTIES HAVE THIRTY FIVE HUNDRED AND THIRTY NINE HUNDRED SQUARE FEET OF BUILT AREA.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

I THINK IT'S REALLY, UH, ONE SLIDE UP.

UH, SORRY, ONE SLIDE DOWN.

I APOLOGIZE.

IT'S MY FAULT.

UH, ONE MORE UP.

THAT ONE.

YEP.

YES PLEASE.

SO IF WE'RE TO LOOK AT THE BASE CASE ZONING OF THIS SITE, THIS DIAGRAM SHOWS WHAT IS CURRENTLY ALLOWABLE IN THE R FIVE ZONING DISTRICT FOR THIS AMOUNT OF LAND.

SO WE HAVE A 15,000 SQUARE FOOT SITE, WHICH IS EQUIVALENT TO THREE 5,000 FOOT CONFORMING R FIVE SITES.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE 2020 CENSUS, THE MEDIAN HOME SIZE OF A SITE OF A, OF A NEW HOME CONSTRUCTED IN 2020 IS 2300 SQUARE FEET.

THESE SITES ARE ALSO EACH ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN A D U UP TO 800 SQUARE FEET.

AND THAT CONDITION IS PRECEDENT ON BOTH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOUSES TO THE NORTH AND TO THE SOUTH.

THOSE BOTH HAVE A D U SQUARE FOOTAGE ACCORDING TO BEAK HEAD.

SO IF YOU TOTAL THAT ALL UP AT THE BOTTOM, THIS SITE IS CURRENTLY ENTITLED FOR SIX DWELLING UNITS ON THREE LOTS.

THEY WOULD PRESENT A SIDE FACING FACADE TO THE RIVER, WHICH IS COMPLETELY NOT SITE SPECIFIC.

THEY WOULD ALSO LIKELY BE SPECULATIVE AT THIS SCALE FOR SALE CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS A SOCIOECONOMIC OUTLIER IN MY OPINION FOR THIS PART OF OUR CITY.

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IT'S WORTH KEEPING IN MIND THAT THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT CULTURAL CORRIDOR.

OUR SITE IS LOCATED ON THE RIVER, WHICH HAS SEEN TREMENDOUS COMMUNITY EFFORT AND I THINK IT'S WORTH KEEPING THAT IN MIND.

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SO IF WE REFERENCE SOME OF THE OTHER WORK ALONG THAT VERY IMPORTANT PRIMARY CULTURAL CORRIDOR, WERE BORDERED IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH BY CONFLUENCE.

PARK IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH BY THE BEXAR COUNTY PUBLIC'S WORKS BUILDING AND A WIDE VARIETY OF MARKET RATE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS TO PROVIDE EQUITABLE ACCESS TO THE RIVER.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

IT INCLUDES EIGHT DWELLING UNITS, ALL OF WHICH IS RENTAL HOUSING.

THERE ARE FIVE TOWN HOMES TO THE SOUTH AND ONE TRIPLEX TO THE NORTH.

WE'RE CAPPING OUR DEVELOPMENT SQUARE FOOTAGE AT 8,000 SQUARE FEET AND WE'RE PROVIDING BUFFERED PARKING WITH AN APPROPRIATE NUMBER OF SPACES.

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SO IF WE MAKE THIS COMPARISON, THE BASE CASE TO THE LEFT REPRESENTS APPROXIMATELY 9,400 SQUARE FEET OF DEVELOPMENT.

WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS CAPPED AT 8,000 SQUARE FEET OF DEVELOPMENT.

SO I THINK WE COULD ALL AGREE THAT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME WITH FOUR BEDROOMS OR THREE BEDROOMS IS A MUCH DIFFERENT INTENSITY OF USE THAN A ONE BEDROOM APARTMENT.

SO WE THINK IN THIS CASE THE FLOOR AREA RATIO IS A BETTER MEASURE OF DENSITY THAT WE TYPICALLY GO WITH DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

SO THE SCENARIO ON THE LEFT IS A 0.62 FLOOR AREA RATIO AND WE'RE PROPOSING A LOWER TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE AND LOWER FLOOR AREA RATIO OF 0.53.

SO THE AVERAGE UNIT SIZE TO THE LEFT IS ALSO 1500 SQUARE FEET.

THE AVERAGE UNIT SIZE TO THE RIGHT IS A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS A MUCH MORE ATTAINABLE HOUSING MODEL.

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SO HERE ARE THE BENEFITS FORMULATED.

WE HAVE A SITE SPECIFIC DESIGN THAT'S NOT ON A NON-STANDARD R FIVE LOT.

THIS IS NOT A TYPICAL MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD R FIVE LOT.

WE HAVE LESS OVERALL BUILDING MASS.

WE RESPECT, RESPECT THE PUBLIC VIEW CORRIDOR ALONG THE RIVER.

AND WE PRESENT SCALE APPROPRIATE FACADE TO THE STREET SCAPE.

ALONG THE THEO, WE'RE PRESENTING ONE RESIDENTIAL FRONTAGE.

UH, SORRY, I'M A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS.

UM, THE SOCIOECONOMIC ADVANTAGES ARE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING MISSING MIDDLE RENTAL HOUSING, WHICH IS WIDELY UNDERREPRESENTED ACROSS THE CITY.

UM, WE'RE ALSO PROVIDING MODEST ATTAINABLE UNIT SIZES AND WE THINK THAT THIS PROPOSAL REPRESENTS LOCATION EQUITY.

SO WE'RE GONNA ENABLE ACCESS TO A PREMIER SITE FOR THE TENANT.

UH, IT ALSO PROVIDES A BETTER PEDESTRIAN STREETS SCAPE FOR THE COMMUNITY WITH ONLY ONE CURB CUT.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

WE'RE, WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO MEET A LOT OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA REGIONAL PLAN.

THE GOVERNING PLAN FOR THIS AREA GOALS AS WELL.

I MEAN PRIMARILY GOAL NUMBER SIX OF NINE EMPHASIZED THE DEVELOPMENT OF MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING FOR BOTH TENANTS

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AND OWNERS AND WE'RE PROVIDING THE LESS PROVIDED OPTION WITHIN THAT.

UM, RECOMMENDATION TWO.

UM, ACCOMMODATE ADDITIONAL HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOODS AND TRANSITION AREAS THROUGH CONTEXT SENSITIVE DESIGN AND SMALL SCALE INFILL AND HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY 2.3, IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES TO REMOVE BARRIERS FOR EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS TO ACCOMMODATE ADDITIONAL HOUSING BY ALLOWING FOR SMALLER LOTS ADUS AND MIDDLE DENSITY HOUSING TYPES.

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UM, SO HERE'S HOW OUR SITE FITS WITHIN THE EXISTING CONTROLS.

THE STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK PLAN AND THE ESSAY TOMORROW PLAN.

BOTH AGREE THAT, UH, FORM-BASED ZONING IS OUR BEST ALTERNATIVE TO PROVIDE THESE HOUSING TYPES.

IT'S REQUESTED.

SO WE FIT ENTIRELY WITHIN THE FORM-BASED R FIVE CONTROLS OF THE SITE THAT EXIST TODAY.

AND IF THIS WERE ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME, IT'S APPROVABLE AS OF RIGHT JUST AS DRAWN.

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WE'RE ESSENTIALLY PUTTING FORTH AN R AND FIVE PROPOSAL.

THESE, THIS TRIPLEX AND THESE TOWN HOMES ALL FIT SQUARELY WITHIN THE RMM FIVE TYPOLOGY.

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AND WHY IS I D Z REQUIRED THEN? WELL, IT'S ALL ABOUT ACCESS.

THE TWO DIAGRAMS ARE EXACTLY THE SAME, SIMPLY ROTATED.

AND IF THESE ALL FRONTED THEO AVENUE, IT WOULD BE APPROVABLE AS AN RM FIVE PROJECT.

IT WOULD NOT REQUIRE A PLAN AMENDMENT BECAUSE WE'RE FRONTING THE RIVER AND INTENTIONALLY ADDRESSING THIS SITE CHARACTERISTIC.

WE'VE GOTTA GO I D Z WITH IT.

WE'RE I D Z TWO BECAUSE OF THE DWELLING UNIT, UH, DENSITY METRIC, WHICH DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE FLOOR AREA RATIO PROPOSAL PUT FORTH EARLIER.

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UM, OUR ORIGINAL CONVERSATION WITH STAFF WAS THAT A PLANNED AMENDMENT WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED WAS THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE OF THE PUBLICLY ADOPTED ESSAY.

TOMORROW PLAN.

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BUT STAFF HAS ISSUED THE RULE INTERPRETATION DETERMINATION 2000 19 0 0 6, WHICH HAS SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDED THE PARENT CATEGORY OF I D Z AND ONLY ALLOWED THE I D Z ONE SUBCATEGORY OF THAT.

SO WE'RE PROPOSING AN RMM FIVE PROJECT, WHICH WOULD'VE BEEN ALLOWED BY THE ORIGINAL PLAN LANGUAGE.

NOW THAT THIS AMENDMENT HAS HAPPENED, A PLAN AMENDMENT'S REQUIRED.

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AND INTERESTINGLY, THAT SAME INTERPRETATION ENCOURAGED R ONE ZONING IN THIS CATEGORY, WHICH GOES UP TO 34 UNITS PER ACRE.

AND WE'RE AT 24 UNITS PER ACRE WITH OUR I D Z TWO PROPOSAL, WHICH IS A HUGE CATEGORY.

18 TO 15 UNITS, 18 TO 50 UNITS PER ACRE IS HUGE.

SO WE THINK THAT THIS INTERPRETATION WASN'T AIMED AT OUR PRIMARILY RMM FIVE BASED PROPOSAL.

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WE'RE QUALIFIED TO DO THIS.

THIS IS OUR LAST PROJECT.

UM, YOU'RE LOOKING AT MOST OF THE PROJECT TEAM HERE AND WE DELIVERED THIS IN 2021.

AND SO WE PROVIDED NINE UNITS ALMOST EXACTLY THE SAME.

UH, METRICS 26 D ONE UNITS PER ACRE 0.534 AREA RATIO.

NEXT PROJECT.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UM, WE'RE PROVIDING DIVERSIFIED A M I HOUSING.

SO WE'VE GOT UNITS HERE THAT ARE BELOW THE 80% A M I THRESHOLD, COMPLETELY UNSUBSIDIZED.

AND THAT'S ALL DONE JUST THROUGH DEFERRED FEES FROM THE PROJECT TEAM.

AND THEN WE'RE THE FIRST SOLAR DUPLEXES IN THE C P S SERVICE AREA.

SO WE'RE REALLY HAVE A STRONG COMMITMENT TO SUSTAINABILITY AND WE THINK THIS IS A GREAT WATER BOUND SITE.

UM, THIS ALSO ON A 2020 A I A DESIGN AWARD.

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AND SO I'LL LEAVE IT AT OUR OFFICIAL I D Z SITE PLAN, WHICH WILL COME IN THE ZONING CASE TO FOLLOW AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND IT'LL CALM DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

THANK YOU.

IT WAS A VERY THOROUGH PRESENTATION.

COUNCILMAN COURAGE.

UM, YOU SAID THAT THE PRICING OF THE UNITS, UH, AS FAR AS RENTAL YOU PROJECT WILL BE BELOW 80% A M I FOR ALL UNITS.

IN THE PREVIOUS PROJECT.

WE WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THAT.

WE CONTINUE TO AIM FOR THAT METRIC, BUT WE CAN'T COMMIT TO THAT AT THIS TIME BECAUSE LUMBER IS TRIPLE WHAT IT WAS WHEN WE BUILT THE OTHER PROJECT.

BUT WE ABSOLUTELY AIM FOR IT AND WE WILL NOT BE SEEKING PUBLIC SUBSIDY.

OKAY.

UM, WILL YOU, UH, ALLOW FOR, UM, RENTALS, OVERNIGHT RENTALS? NO.

WE'RE AT MINIMUM 12 MONTH RENTAL TERM, WHICH IS ON THE LONGER SIDE OF LONG-TERM HOUSING AND AT THE PREVIOUS PROJECT.

AND WE CONTINUE TO CONTINUE THAT BODY OF MIDDLE MISSING, MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING AT THIS SITE.

THEY'RE VERY MUCH IN THE SAME VEIN, WE THINK.

SO OUR AVERAGE, UH, TENANCY OVER THERE EXCEEDS 12 MONTHS.

SO YOU'LL, YOU'LL MAKE SURE THAT ANYONE, NO ONE CAN SUBLEASE THAT UNIT OVERNIGHT TOO.

YOU'LL INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR, UH, AB YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

WE'LL COMMIT TO THAT AND I'LL NEED TO COMMIT TO THAT TO MAKE THIS PROJECT HAPPEN ON MY SIDE.

OKAY.

THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER QUESTIONS.

MR. GARCIA? GOOD PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

AND I THINK IT'LL BE AN ASSET TO THAT PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU.

I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? NOPE.

COMMISSIONER SIEGEL.

MR. BOWMAN, THAT WAS A COMPELLING PRESENTATION.

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THANK YOU.

UM, IN THE WORK SESSION, I COMMENTED THAT THIS AREA IS, UM, VULNERABLE TO GENTRIFICATION BEING, UH, LOCATED WHERE IT IS.

AND, BUT YOUR PRESENTATION HAS REALLY PUT MY CONCERNS TO REST.

SO, UM, I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER JASU? YES.

UH, GREAT PRESENTATION.

UM, CAN YOU GO UP IN YOUR SLIDES WHEN YOU HAVE THE SAME LAYOUT TURNING 90 DEGREES AND WITH YOUR COMMENTS THAT I WANNA JUSTIFY WITH THE CITY OF THIS ONE? IF, IF HE WOULD CHOOSE TO GO WITH THE PLAN ON THE LEFT, HE WOULDN'T NEED TO COME HERE AND DO PLAN AMENDMENT.

AM I RIGHT? , AND I'LL BE THE FIRST TO SAY.

THAT'S A VERY, VERY COMPLICATED QUESTION, BUT IF WE COULD FILTER DOWN TO IT, THE ESSENCE OF IT, IN MY OPINION IS NO.

AND STAFF, PLEASE CORRECT ME WHERE I'M WRONG.

IT, IT'S GONNA COME DOWN TO THE DENSITY OF THE PROJECT AND, AND WHAT THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT IS.

AND SO WE ONLY HAVE THE GUIDELINES THAT SAY THIS IS WHAT THE LAND USE IS AND THESE ARE THE CATEGORIES THAT ARE ALLOWED THERE.

SO WHEN WE REVIEW THESE FOR WHETHER THEY NEED A PLAN AMENDMENT OR NOT, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, WHAT THE PROPOSED DENSITY IS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT BASE ZONE THAT IS REQUIRED SO THAT IT MATCHES THAT BASE LAND USE AS WELL.

UM, IF I MAY, IN THE DIAGRAM TO THE LEFT, IF WE MET ALL OF THE CRITERIA OF RMM FIVE MINIMUM SITE AREAS, WOULD THAT MEET THE RMM FIVE BASE CRITERIA OF THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE FOR URBAN LOW DENSITY YET? UH, WE'VE GOT RMM FIVE AND RMM SIX CATEGORIES THAT ARE PERMITTED IN THAT.

THANK YOU.

SO AGAIN, THE QUESTION AGAIN, THE PLAN ON THE LEFT DOES NOT CONFLICT, UH, ALTHOUGH IT'S THE SAME LAYOUT TO ME.

BUT IF, IF WE WOULD GO WITH THE PLAN ON THE LEFT, WOULD, THAT WOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM FOR HIS CASE TODAY? I I CAN CHIME IN.

SO WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING ON THE LEFT IS INDIVIDUAL DRIVEWAYS THAT LEAD TO THESE UNITS WE'RE SHOWING TOWNHOUSE LOTS AT A MINIMUM 15 BY 80, UM, IN THE CODE.

THE CODE SECTIONS ARE IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT WE SKIPPED OVER THEM.

SO WE'RE SHOWING RMM FIVE TOWNHOUSE LOTS ADJACENT TO ONE FLAG LOT, WHICH IS A MINIMUM OF 5,000 SQUARE FEET.

RMM FIVE TRIPLEX.

RIGHT.

SO IF REZONED TO RMM FIVE, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A REZONING PROCESS.

TOWN HOMES WOULD BE ALLOWED EACH LOT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO MEET A MINIMUM LOT SIZE FOR THE RMM DISTRICTS WHEN YOU'RE DOING A TOWNHOME LOT.

YOU JUST HAVE TO MEET MINIMUM WIDTH AND LENGTH, UH, FOR A LOT.

UM, BUT YES, YOU COULD DO A TOWNHOME SUBDIVISION IF THE THIS PROPERTY WERE REZONED TO RM FIVE.

OKAY.

I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE MAYBE A GOOD POTENTIAL CHANGE TO THE U D C IN THE FUTURE.

UH, WHAT, WHAT CHANGE COMMITMENT TO THE UD C JUST TO ALLOW THAT CHANGE? THAT I, I DON'T KNOW.

I THOUGHT THAT'S GONNA BE A POTENTIAL CHANGE TO, I THOUGHT IT HAS TO BE WITH THE, WITH THE AREA OR WITH THE LOCATION OR THE, WITH THE, WITH THE DESIGNATION OF THE BUILDINGS WITH RESPECT TO THE LOT THAT IT'S REALLY CONTROLLED BY WHETHER HE WANTS TO MOVE TO REQUIRED I D Z VERSUS AN RM FIVE CONFIGURATION.

I WOULD JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THIS, NOT MORE.

OKAY.

THAT'S MY QUESTION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

PUT A REMINDER FOR 2025 FOR THE NEXT DC CYCLE , IF HE WOULD, IF HE WOULD WAIT FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEARS.

COMMISSIONER MILAN, UM, AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS ON A REALLY WONDERFUL PRESENTATION AND, AND YOU ANSWERED THE SAME CONCERN THAT I THINK COMMISSIONER SIEGEL AND I BOTH HAD ABOUT GENTRIFICATION, SO THANK YOU.

THANKS.

YEAH, I, I AGREE.

I THINK, UM, AT FIRST I, I, I KNOW I'M SENSITIVE TO THE FACT THIS IS A NEW PLAN AND TO CHANGE IT SUBSTANTIALLY, BUT, UH, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT OF, UM, I'M ALWAYS A BIG PROPONENT OF QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I MEAN, THERE'S LOTS OF NATURAL AMENITIES THAT MAKE SENSE FOR THIS.

UM, SO, UH, I'M, I DO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.

I I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

GO AHEAD.

SO THE ONE, UM, OPPOSITION LETTER THAT WE RECEIVED FROM A NEIGHBOR WAS, UM, SHOWED CONCERN ABOUT TRAFFIC.

UM, SO THIS IS EIGHT UNITS MM-HMM.

OUT OF WHAT WOULD BE A POSSIBLE SIX UNITS OTHER WITHOUT THE PLAN AMENDMENT.

AND, UM, ARE YOU PROPOSING ALL PARKING TO BE CONTAINED WITHIN THE SITE? DO DOES EACH UNIT HAVE THEIR OWN PARKING SPACE? YEAH, WE'LL BE PARKING THIS PROJECT AS DRAWN AT JUST A LITTLE OVER 1.5 SPACES PER UNIT IN THE REFERENCE PROJECT.

WE'RE PARKED AT A LITTLE OVER 1.1, AND WE FOUND THAT TO BE TOTALLY SUFFICIENT.

I'VE, I MANAGED THAT OTHER PROJECT AND I'VE SEEN THE, ALL THE PARKING SPACES FULL THREE TIMES IN ONE YEAR.

SO I THINK BECAUSE OUR,

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THE NATURE OF OUR UNIT SIZE IS SMALL AND WE'LL HAVE ONE CURB CUT, I THINK WE'LL EFFECTIVELY SEE LESS OF A TRAFFIC PROBLEM THAN THE BASE CASE SCENARIO.

AND JUST TO RESTATE, YOUR INTENT IS TO MAINTAIN OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY AFTER DEVELOPMENT, SO YOU'LL BE IN CONTROL OF THE LEASING AND YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

I, I'M A REGISTERED REAL ESTATE BROKER IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO RUN WITH THIS PROJECT INDEFINITELY.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T REALLY THE FOCUS OF THIS, BUT NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO BUILD MY PROJECT.

EVERYBODY ELSE WANTS TO BUILD THE BASE CASE SCENARIO.

SO THERE'S LITTLE RISK OF SOMEBODY ATTEMPTING TO COME DO THIS BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN ATTRACTIVE MODEL FINANCIALLY FOR MOST.

AND WE BELIEVE IN IT AND WE CHOOSE TO FOCUS OUR EFFORTS ON THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE A, A C TWO BAR MAY BECOME A DIFFERENT USE, I THINK THE LIKELIHOOD'S VERY LOW THAT SOMEBODY WILL CHOOSE THIS MODEL IN THE FUTURE.

SO WE'RE ABSOLUTELY NOT SETTING IT UP FOR THAT.

AND I THINK WE'D HAVE A HARD TIME DOING IT EVEN IF WE WANTED TO.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? CHAIR? I HAVE A COUPLE OF, UH, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, PLEASE, COUNCILMAN.

THANK YOU.

UM, WE'VE LOOKED AT THE MOST RECENT APPROVED LAND USE, UH, UNDER THE SA TOMORROW PLAN.

IS THAT RIGHT? YES, SIR.

AND WHAT, WHAT SECTION OF THE PLAN IS THIS PROPERTY IN URBAN LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL? THIS IS THE DOWNTOWN REGIONAL CENTER AREA PLAN.

AND THE, THE LAND USE IS URBAN LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

OKAY.

AND THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

DECEMBER, 2019.

OKAY.

AND THAT, THAT PLAN WAS DEVELOPED BY PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

AND SO THEY'RE THE ONES WHO SAID, THESE ARE THE LAND USE PLANS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THIS AREA, IN THIS PART OF DOWNTOWN, OR CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN.

AND SO WHAT THIS GENTLEMAN IS PROPOSING TO DO IS TO JUST SAY, WELL, THE NEIGHBORHOOD MAY HAVE WANT THIS LAND USE, BUT I CAN DEVELOP IT A DIFFERENT WAY.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT I THINK BECOMES MAYBE A CONTINUING PROBLEM OVER TIME AS MORE AND MORE PEOPLE COME UP WITH ALTERNATIVES TO THE LAND USE THAT WAS PROPOSED BY THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED THERE AND WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

UH, AND, AND FOR THAT REASON ALONE, I, I HAVE TO SAY, I, I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS COUNCILMAN VERY RESPECTFULLY, IF I MAY.

UM, CAN WE PLEASE GO TO PAGE 15 IN THE SLIDE DECK? UM, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU.

THE ESSAY TOMORROW, FUTURE LAND USE WAS PUBLICLY VETTED AND APPROVED.

BUT THE ONLY REASON THAT THIS PROJECT NO LONGER FALLS WITHIN THE URBAN LOAD DENSITY CATEGORY THAT IS CURRENTLY ISSUED IS BECAUSE OF AN INTERPRETATION ISSUED BY STAFF OUTSIDE OF THE PUBLIC PROCESS.

SO THE INITIALLY APPROVED PLAN, UH, IN INITIAL CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF WOULD NOT HAVE REQUIRED A PLAN AMENDMENT BECAUSE THIS INTERPRETATION HAS BEEN ISSUED BY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ALONE.

WE NOW FALL INTO A DIFFERENT LAND USE CATEGORY.

I GUESS I JUST LOOK AT IT AND SAY, THAT DOESN'T LOOK LOW DENSITY TO ME.

AND IF I COULD JUST KIND OF CLARIFY WHAT THAT DID.

SO, UM, THE I D Z REZONING DISTRICT WAS CHANGED IN 2019.

IT USED TO JUST BE ONE CATEGORY.

UM, AND IT WENT THROUGH A PUBLIC PROCESS WITH THE, UH, TASK FORCE TO CREATE THE CATEGORIES THAT WE HAVE TODAY.

I D Z ONE, I D Z TWO, IDZ THREE, THOSE CATEGORIES, UH, WERE WERE CREATED IN ORDER TO, TO CREATE LEVELS OF INTENSITY AND DENSITY BECAUSE YOU CAN NO LONGER REZONE TO THE OLD I D Z.

THEREFORE THE, THE PLANS OR THE LAND USE CATEGORIES THAT WERE ADOPTED PRIOR TO THE UPDATES TO THE I D Z ZONING DISTRICT.

THIS, THOSE CATEGORIES HAD TO BE UPDATED TO REFLECT THE NEW I D Z CATEGORIES.

SO RID IS DONE IN ORDER TO SAY, OKAY, NOW YOU HAVE THESE NEW DISTRICTS, YOU HAVE TO FIT 'EM IN BECAUSE NOW PEOPLE ARE GONNA COME IN TO REZONE TO THESE NEW CATEGORIES.

'CAUSE YOU CAN'T ZO TO THE OLD ONE.

SO THAT'S WHY RI WAS DONE IN THIS.

SO IF YOU HAD COME IN BEFORE THE OLD, THE NEW I D Z CATEGORIES TO REZONE THE PROPERTY PRIOR TO 2019, THEN YES, YOU, YOU COULD POSSIBLY USE THAT.

AND IT WOULD BE CONSISTENT IF, IF THE DOWNTOWN PLAN WAS ADOPTED BY THEN, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE WORKED ON I D Z, UH, PRIOR TO 2019.

IT WAS IN 2017, I THINK WE, WHEN WE ADOPTED THE NEW CATEGORIES, YOU WOULD HAVE TO COME IN BEFORE THAT, BUT BECAUSE YOU'RE COMING IN NOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SUBJECT TO THIS, BUT WE HAD TO FIT 'EM IN AND THAT'S WHY THE R WAS DONE.

SO YOUR, YOUR PRO YOUR PROJECT TODAY HAS TO COMPLY WITH THAT.

THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION I MOVE TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.

SECOND

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MOTION TO APPROVE APPLICANT'S REQUEST BY COMMISSIONER SIEGEL.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MILAM, WE PLEASE CONDUCT THE ROLL CALL VOTE.

COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES.

COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES.

COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YES.

COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES.

COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES.

COUNCILMAN COURAGE? NO.

COMMISSIONER PECK? NO.

CHAIR PROFIT? YES.

MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

GOOD LUCK WITH THE COUNCIL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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ALRIGHT.

UH, I HAVE NUMBER 20.

WE'RE GOING TO GET AN UPDATE ON ALL THE GOINGS ON WE'VE, THAT'S BEEN GOING ON PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE LAST QUARTER.

CHAIRMAN, I NEED TO EXCUSE MYSELF.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I IT MYSELF, OR DO I HAVE TO ASK CHRISTY? I CAN GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE THE, UM, QUARTERLY REPORT.

SO THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS, UH, REQUESTED, UH, LAST YEAR, UM, BY, UH, CHAIR GONZALEZ AND, UH, OTHER, UH, PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.

SO, UH, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT, UH, MORE THAN A QUARTER INTO THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, FISCAL YEAR.

UH, SO THIS IS GONNA BE A, A PLUS QUARTER.

BUT GOING FORWARD EVERY QUARTER, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND UPDATE YOU ON SOME OF THE HIGH PROFILE PLAN AMENDMENTS, PLATTS VARIANCES, UH, STREET NAME CHANGES THAT YOU HAVE, UH, APPROVED OR MOVED FORWARD THROUGH THE PROCESS.

AND LET YOU, YOU KNOW, JUST UPDATE YOU WHAT CITY COUNCIL DID, IF THEY APPROVED IT, WHERE THE PROJECT IS TODAY.

UH, JUST TO KIND OF KEEP YOU ALL INFORMED.

UM, SO IF WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

I CAN, UH, START THE NIKKI, IF I CAN GO NEXT SLIDE? YEAH, WON'T GO.

WE MIGHT HAVE .

THANK YOU.

SO WE'VE HAD 11 MEETINGS SO FAR SINCE OCTOBER.

UH, WE'VE, YOU HAVE APPROVED 133 PLATS, UH, 46 PLAN, UH, AMENDMENTS HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED SEVEN TREE, UH, VARIANCE APPEALS, AND THEN TWO STREET NAME CHANGES.

AND I'LL HAND IT OVER TO CHRISTIE, WHO WILL KIND OF ELABORATE MORE ON THE PLAN AMENDMENTS.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU.

I'M CHRISTIE FLORES, THE, UH, PLANNING MANAGER OVER LAND DEVELOPMENT AND ZONING.

AND SO I'M GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE PLAN AMENDMENTS TODAY.

AND AS DANIEL MENTIONED, WE WILL BE DOING QUARTERLY UPDATES.

YOU'LL SEE THAT THIS IS NOT A QUARTERLY UPDATE.

THIS IS ABOUT SEVEN MONTHS WORTH OF INFORMATION.

AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO JUST DISPLAY CATCH UP AT THIS POINT.

SO THERE WERE 46 PLAN AMENDMENTS SINCE OCTOBER OF 2021.

THAT'S HOW MANY THAT HAVE COME TO THIS BOARD TO, FOR CONSIDERATION OF A LAND USE CHANGE.

UH, TWO OF THOSE WERE WITHDRAWN PRIOR TO CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.

UM, TWO WERE WITHDRAWN DURING A COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.

ONE WAS DENIED BY CITY COUNCIL AND WILL ACTUALLY FOCUS ON ONE OF THOSE AS THE EXAMPLES TODAY.

NINE OF 'EM WERE PENDING, CONTINUED, OR IN A POSTPONE STATUS AS THEY WERE WORKING THROUGH WITH NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS OR WHATEVER IT WAS THAT THEY NEEDED TO WORK OUT ON THEIR PROJECT.

AND THEN 32 OF THEM THUS FAR HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.

AND THAT MEANS IT CAME TO YOUR GROUP FOR A RECOMMENDATION, WENT TO ZONING COMMISSION FOR A RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN WAS FORWARDED TO CITY COUNCIL AND WAS 32 OF THOSE WERE APPROVED.

SO ONE OF THE ONES WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER THIS ONE.

AND THIS ONE HAPPENS TO BE THE ONE ITEM THAT WAS DENIED BY COUNCIL.

IT WAS ALSO RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL BY STAFF AND BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

THIS WAS OVER OFF OF AGONE.

AND THEY WANTED TO DO A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO A MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

AND THIS IS WHERE THEY WANTED TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONE IN R SIX TO A LIMITED DENSITY MULTIFAMILY.

AND THAT REQUEST GOT REZONE, UH, EXCUSE ME, DENIED FOR THEIR REQUEST.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, THAT IS ONE OF THE RESULTS.

ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF A HIGH PROFILE CASE THAT CAME BEFORE YOU GUYS THAT HAD A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT, I'M SURE YOU RECALL B STREET.

B STREET HAD, UH, SEVERAL PEOPLE COME AND SPEAK ABOUT, WE HAD ORIGINALLY RECOMMENDED SOME MIXED USE, UH, MIXED USE CATEGORY.

THEY FELT THAT WAS TOO BROAD.

AND SO THEY WORKED WITH NOT ONLY THE APPLICANT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THEY, THE NEIGHBORHOOD DECIDED THAT THEY FELT THAT HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WAS MORE APPROPRIATE.

AND SO THE REQUEST WAS FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

AND THEN BOTH STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THAT.

AND BACK IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, AFTER TWO POSTPONEMENTS

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AND THEN FINALLY A CONSIDERATION, UH, THEY GOT THEIR REQUEST TO REZONE AND FOR THEIR LAND USE CHANGE.

SO IT WAS AN IDZ TWO THAT THEY WERE REQUESTING, AND THEY WILL BE BUILDING 18 RESIDENTIAL UNITS HERE.

SO IT, IT'S, THEY'RE GONNA BREAK IT UP INTO BOTH, BOTH SIDES OF THE BLOCK.

AND SO THEY NEEDED THAT HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FOR THAT.

UH, BUT THAT WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE COMMUNITY COMING TOGETHER WITH THE APPLICANT AND THEM WORKING OUT A SOLUTION SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN COEXIST IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THEN FINALLY, MY LAST EXAMPLE FOR YOU TODAY BEFORE I TURN IT BACK OVER TO DANIEL, IS THE EXAMPLE OF GREEN MOUNTAIN.

AND SO, AS YOU KNOW, MULTIFAMILY IS OFTEN VERY CONTROVERSIAL.

YOU MAY OR MAY NOT RE REMEMBER THIS ONE, BUT IT DID HAVE SOME PUBLIC INPUT.

AND GENERALLY ANYTHING WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING MORE DENSITY IN AN AREA GETS, YOU KNOW, SOME, UM, ATTENTION.

AND SO THIS IS IN THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN, IT WAS IN DISTRICT 10.

THEY WERE REQUESTING GENERAL URBAN TIER AND SUBURBAN TIER TWO GENERAL URBAN TIER IN ORDER TO GET THAT MF 33 THAT THEY NEEDED.

AND STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND THE CITY COUNCIL DID APPROVE THIS PLAN, AMENDMENT AND ZONING CHANGE.

THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR YOU TODAY.

IF THERE IS EVER ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW IT TURNED OUT OR IF MAYBE WE DON'T COVER IT IN A QUARTERLY REPORT AS WE'RE GONNA DO, LET ME KNOW.

UH, YOU CAN SEND ME AN EMAIL, YOU CAN LET ME KNOW IN WORK SESSION, AND I'M HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT PARTICULAR CASE IF IT JUST INTERESTED YOU.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND ATTENTION TODAY AND THANK YOU FOR THE SERVICE THAT YOU DO FOR THE CITY.

IT'S VERY MUCH APPRECIATED, ESPECIALLY THE DIALOGUE HERE TODAY.

AND DANIEL, IT'S ALL YOURS.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO STREET NAME CHANGES.

UH, YOU CONSIDERED, UH, TWO OF THEM, UH, SINCE OCTOBER THE FIRST BEING JENNIFER SUE DELGADO MEMORIAL DESIGNATION WAY, UH, THIS WAS A RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY THE BODY IN DECEMBER 15TH OF LAST YEAR.

UH, CITY COUNCIL ULTIMATELY DID APPROVE THAT JANUARY 27TH AT CITY COUNCIL.

UH, THE SIGNAGE OBVIOUSLY IS PENDING INSTALLATION.

UM, THIS ONE WAS JUST A MEMORIAL DESIGNATION, SO THIS ISN'T CHANGING ALL THE STREET NAMES.

IT'S JUST PUTTING A MEMORIAL BROWN SIGN, UH, WHICH IS OPPOSED TO THE HISTORIC OLD HIGHWAY 90, WHICH I'M SURE EVERYBODY'S VERY FAMILIAR WITH.

UH, THIS WAS CHANGED TO ENRIQUE AND BARRA PARKWAY BACK IN 2015.

THERE WAS A LOT OF OPPOSITION TO THAT.

UH, SO THEY WAITED THE FIVE YEARS TO APPLY TO CHANGE IT BACK AND ACTUALLY ADDED TO HISTORIC OLD HIGHWAY 90.

UH, YOU ALL RECOMMENDED APPROVAL ON JANUARY 12TH OF THIS YEAR.

AND, UH, CITY COUNCIL ULTIMATELY APPROVED IT DECEMBER 10TH.

AND THAT ONE IS PENDING INSTALLATION OF SIGNAGE AS WELL.

THAT ONE'S GONNA BE A, A FURTHER LEEWAY TIME JUST BECAUSE, UH, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE CHANGING THE SIGNS UNTIL TDOT WILL.

AND THAT'S, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK WITH THEIR, THEIR TIMELINE.

BUT THE, THE INSTALLATION WILL OCCUR AT SOME POINT.

I JUST DON'T HAVE A GOOD TIMELINE ON WHEN THAT'S GONNA OCCUR.

UH, THE OTHER ONE THAT WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW IS THE TREE ADMINISTRATION EXCEPTION.

UH, DENIAL.

UH, SO THIS WAS APPROVED BY PLANNING COMMISSION.

UH, THIS, UH, TREE VARIANCE, UH, THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES APPEALED THE, UH, RE THE APPROVAL OF PLANNING COMMISSION, WHICH HAD THE, THE VARIANCE GO TO CITY COUNCIL, WHICH DOESN'T HAPPEN OFTEN.

UH, 'CAUSE PLANNING COMMISSION IS THE APPROVING BODY FOR TREE VARIANCES.

UH, SO THIS WENT TO CITY COUNCIL, AND CITY COUNCIL ULTIMATELY UPHELD, UH, YOUR, YOUR, UH, APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE REQUEST.

UH, THAT'S IT.

I MEAN, IT'S A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION.

UM, THIS PRESENTATION IS FOR YOU ALL.

SO BASICALLY IF YOU HAVE THINGS YOU WANT ADDED TO IT OR THE STRUCTURE TO CHANGE, UH, JUST GET WITH ME AND CHRISTIE AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN KIND OF MODIFY IT TO, UH, KIND OF REPRESENT THE DATA OR INFORMATION THAT YOU ALL ARE INTERESTED IN.

UH, SO THIS IS A COLLABORATIVE THING.

WE'RE JUST KIND OF TRYING TO KEEP YOU ABREAST OF ALL THE DIFFERENT CHANGES AND HOW, WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING, HOW THAT AFFECTS THE CITY.

UH, SO WE, AGAIN, I JUST WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE AND, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO ANOTHER GREAT QUARTER.

AND THIS WON'T BE SEVEN MONTH QUARTER.

IT'LL BE A, A NORMAL QUARTER.

YOU'LL GET ANOTHER UPDATE.

SO, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YEAH, JUST, JUST A COMMENT.

I, I ASKED THESE QUESTIONS BEFORE, UH, IT'S GOOD TO ALWAYS HEAR BACK FROM THE CITY COUNCIL OR OVER OUR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE HERE TO SEE EXACTLY, UH, WE ARE ALIGNED WITH THE MISSION OF WHY WE ARE HERE.

AND I'M, MIKE, MY QUESTION, IN ADDITION TO THE COMMENT IS, WOULD THERE GONNA BE LIKE A, LIKE A DATABASE WHERE EVERY APPLICANT COMING IN WITH A CASE AND THERE IS A LAYERS OF APPROVALS THAT START FROM THE APPLICANTS TO THE STAFF AND THEN ENDS BY THE CITY COUNCIL? WOULD YOU HAVE LIKE A TRACKING ALL LISTED IN A DATABASE THAT BE ACCESSIBLE FOR US MAYBE TO SEE

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OVERALL WHETHER OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE ALIGNED OR NOT? WE'VE SEEN SOME THANK YOU FOR THAT TODAY, BUT WE HAVE SEEN MORE THROUGHOUT, AT LEAST WHEN I START TO SERVE IN THE .

SO ARE YOU LOOKING FOR LIKE KIND OF RAW DATA AS FAR AS LIKE HOW MANY ULTIMATELY GET APPROVED BY PERCENTAGE OR THE CASE IT STARTED FOR, IT ARRIVED AND THEN APPROVED AND THEN ZONING AND THEN CITY COUNCILS.

WOULD YOU HAVE TO LINE THIS ALL UP IN A DATABASE SO YOU CAN SEE OVERALL HOW THAT ALL COMING TOGETHER? SO ALL THAT INFORMATION IS IN OUR SOFTWARE SYSTEM, BUILD SA IT TRACKS, UH, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE PROCESS OF THE APPLICATION, WHETHER IT GETS, YOU KNOW, CONTINUED AT PLANNING COMMISSION, THAT'S ALL, YOU KNOW, TRACKED IN OUR SYSTEM.

NOW PULLING ALL THAT DATA TOGETHER, I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF DOING THAT THROUGH BELT SA OR NOT.

UH, WE CAN LOOK INTO IT, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, 'CAUSE WE DON'T NECESSARILY, WE USED TO USE, UH, SPREADSHEETS FOR A LOT OF STUFF, BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE OUR SOFTWARE SYSTEM, WE RELY ON THAT MORE HEAVILY AND UH, WE CAN PULL, UH, EXCEL DATA FROM IT.

BUT I'M NOT SURE IF WE CAN PULL IT TO THAT SPECIFICITY OR NOT.

IT'S JUST THE END FOR THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION.

YES.

SO JUST WANT, YEAH, AND I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THESE MEETINGS.

I MEAN, WE CAN ADD, UH, SOME KIND OF GRAPH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD KIND OF SHOW, UH, THE WHOLE THING AS A HOLISTIC THING.

I MEAN, IF YOU DO INDIVIDUALLY, IT'S GONNA BE HOLISTICALLY WILL BE JUST FINE.

OKAY.

TO SEE AS A PERCENTAGE OF OUR RECOMMENDATION, HOW FAR OFF WE ARE WITH WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL ARE LOOKING FOR.

YEAH.

IF WE ARE ENTIRELY OFF, THERE'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO HAVE TO LOOK AT.

YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR LIKE PLAN AMENDMENTS.

UM, OBVIOUSLY PLATS GET APPROVED HERE, UH, VARIANCES, YOU KNOW, THOSE GET APPROVED HERE.

THREE VARIANCES UNLESS THEY GET APPEALED BY THE DIRECTOR.

UH, SO YEAH, THE, I THINK PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT FOR THE PLAN AMENDMENTS TO GIVE YOU A PERCENTAGE SO YOU CAN SAY, OKAY, OF THE, YOU KNOW, 25 PLAN AMENDMENTS YOU'VE APPROVED, YOU KNOW, 18 OF THEM GOT APPROVED BY, YOU KNOW, CITY COUNCIL, WHICH REPRESENTS, YOU KNOW, THIS PERCENTAGE OF APPROVAL AS OPPOSED TO IT.

SO THEN YOU CAN SEE HOW FAR YOU'RE IN LINE WITH WHAT CITY COUNCIL'S THINKING.

NO OTHER COMMENTS.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

I MEAN, THIS WAS A, A REQUEST BY, UH, I GUESS COMMISSIONER GAR, UH, GONZALEZ, THEN SHE LEFT US.

BUT, BUT THIS IS VERY HELPFUL.

UM, AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME AND FOLLOWING THROUGH ON KEEPING US UP TO DATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON AND WE APPRECIATE ALL Y'ALL'S HARD, HARD WORK AS WELL.

SO, UH,

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THE LAST LAST ITEM IS THE MINUTES TO HAVE A MOTION OR ANY CLARIFICATION READS I SHOULD ASK.

FIRST.

HEARING NONE.

I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVE, MOVE APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ZUKI THE VOTE, PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES.

COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES.

COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YES.

COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES.

COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES.

COMMISSIONER PECK.

COMMISSIONER PROFIT? YES.

UM, MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL.

ALL RIGHT.

IT'S THREE 30 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.