May 05, 2022 City Council Zoning and Land Use Session

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ALL RIGHT.

GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.

WELCOME TO OUR CITY COUNCIL ZONING SESSION.

THE TIME IS 2:09 PM ON THIS FIFTH DAY OF MAY, 2022.

WE'LL CALL OUR MEETING TO ORDER.

[ Roll Call  ]

COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ.

PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER VERAN.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER CAB HDA.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER BEIS.

COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE.

I VOTE.

YAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY.

HERE.

MAYOR BERG.

HERE.

MAYOR.

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

[Public Hearing and Consideration of the following Adoption and Amendments of the Neighborhood, Community and Perimeter Plans as Components of the Master Plan and Zoning Cases. Plan amendments and Zoning cases presented by Roderick Sanchez, Assistant City Manager; Michael Shannon, Director, Development Services.  ]

GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.

UM, TO MAKE OUR MEETINGS MORE EFFICIENT, WE HAVE, UH, BEEN, UH, CONTINUING ITEMS IN A BLOCK THAT ARE GOING TO BE CONTINUED.

SO, UH, IF YOU'LL BEAR WITH ME JUST A MOMENT, WE'VE GOT, UH, SOME ITEMS THAT ARE GONNA BE CONTINUED TO LATER DATES.

UH, THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT DATES THAT THEY'LL BE CONTINUED TO.

SO I'M GONNA CALL FOR MOTIONS, UH, FOR THOSE ITEMS. BUT LET ME FIRST, UH, NOTE THAT ITEM 25, UH, IS NOT GOING TO BE HEARD.

IT HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT.

UH, WE HAVE SOME ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE INDIVIDUALLY HEARD.

THOSE ARE ITEMS ONE AND TWO.

ITEM SEVEN, ITEM 17 AND 18.

ITEM 19, ITEM 26 AND 27.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY ITEMS I'VE GOT FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

EVERYTHING ELSE WILL BE HEARD EITHER ON CONSENT OR WILL BE CONTINUED, UH, BY CONSENT.

SO, UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR INDIVIDUALLY? OKAY.

SO BEFORE WE START WITH OUR CONSENT ZONING AGENDA, I HAVE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS BEING MOVED OR CONTINUED, EXCUSE ME, TILL MAY, MAY 19TH ITEMS SIX, ITEM 14 AND ITEM 30.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO MOVE THOSE ITEMS, CONTINUE THOSE ITEMS TO MAY 19TH.

SO MOVED.

SECOND.

OKAY.

THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND TO, TO CONTINUE ITEMS SIX, 14 AND 30 TO MAY 19TH.

I DO HAVE SOME FOLKS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, UH, ON THOSE ITEMS. I WILL ASK IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO YIELD THEIR TIME, UM, JUST CONSIDERATION THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE HEARD TODAY.

UH, BUT JUST WAVE AT ME IF YOU'D LIKE TO, UM, SEED YOUR TIME AND WE CAN MOVE ON.

UH, ON ITEM SIX, WE HAVE JACK FINGER.

UH, ALSO, UH, JACK, IF YOU'RE TAKING YOUR TIME, YOU'LL BE SPEAKING ON ITEM SIX AND 14 AT THIS TIME.

YEAH, GO AHEAD.

VERY GOOD.

UM, MAYOR NURNBERG, OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR ILLUSTRIOUS SAN ANTONIO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JACK M.

FINGER.

YES.

A COUPLE ITEMS DO WISH TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION ON THIS PORTION RIGHT HERE.

YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE A COUPLE OF THESE ITEMS, ITEMS NUMBER SIX AND ITEM NUMBER 14.

WELL, I MUST SAY THAT, UH, FIRST ONE, ITEM SIX, MR. BRAVO, THAT THAT'S IN YOUR DISTRICT.

AND, UM, A NUMBER OF BIG RED FLAGS THAT I AM ASKING THE QUESTION.

WHY BOTHER CONTINUING IT WHEN THERE'S, THERE'S SO MANY THINGS GOING AGAINST IT, AS I WOULD WITH JUST ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS, THIS, UH, THIS LITTLE SESSION RIGHT HERE.

UH, I MEAN, YOU HAVE, IT'S A PROPOSED OFFICE, AN OFFICE PROPOSED IN, IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT'S JUST COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.

BOTH, BOTH THE, UH, UH, THE ZONING, THE ZONING COMMISSION THOUGHT IT WAS A BAD IDEA TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT WAS JUST, WELL, WELL, FOR ONE THING, YOU HAD ABOUT 30 NOTICES SENT, SENT OUT SURROUNDING IT, AND, UH, UM, TO THE PEOPLE SURROUNDING IN THE TWO WITHIN 200 FEET.

AND AS MUCH AS 17%, ALMOST 20% OF THE PEOPLE SAID, NO, THEY DON'T WANT IT.

20%.

I MEAN, MY GOODNESS, , THAT'S QUITE A FEW THERE, UH, SEVERAL OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET WENT AHEAD AND SAID, NO, IT SHOULDN'T BE THERE AS WELL.

AND GOOD AT LEAST FIVE OF 'EM THERE.

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UH, NO, I THINK, UH, WHY NOT JUST PUT IT ON, UH, PULL THIS ONE AND SAY, NO, JUST DENY IT OUTRIGHT SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT ANYMORE, UM, ELSEWHERE.

UM, ITEM NUMBER, NUMBER 14.

AND, UH, THAT'S MS. VIA, GRANTED, I THINK THAT IT'S IN YOUR, YOUR DISTRICT THERE.

SO, UH, YES, UH, UH, ONCE AGAIN, IT HAS A NUMBER OF RED, RED FLAGS AS WELL.

THE STAFF, THE, THE STAFF THOUGHT IT WAS A BAD IDEA.

THAT'S WHY THEY, THEY RAISED THE FLAG ON IT.

UH, MAINLY BECAUSE THESE FOUR

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YES, IT'S COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE SURROUNDING SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, MS. RIO GRANDE.

SO WHY NOT, UH, UH, BITE THE BULLET AND SAY, SAY NO TO THIS ONE AS WELL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MR. FINGER ON ITEM 30, MR. ROBERT TIPS.

MR. TIPS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 30? IT'S GONNA BE CONTINUED.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR CONTINUANCE OF ITEMS SIX, 14, AND 30 TO MAY 19TH.

ANY COUNCIL DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

ONE SECOND AS WE, UH, GET THE COMPUTER UP.

ALRIGHT, UM, IN LIEU OF THE, UH, COMPUTER VOTE, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY, WE'LL GO NOW TO ITEMS 12 22, 24, AND 29, WHICH WILL BE CONTINUED TO JUNE 2ND.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THOSE ITEMS TO CONTINUE TO JUNE 2ND.

I MOVE THAT WE, UH, EXTEND THOSE ITEMS, CONTINUE THEM TO JUNE, SECOND.

SECOND.

ALRIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CONTINUE ITEMS 12, 22, 24, AND 29 TO JUNE 2ND.

UM, LET ME CALL UP ANYONE WHO HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THOSE ITEMS. UM, ON ITEM 24, JACK FINGER, FOLLOWED BY PHILLIP MANA.

YES, MAYOR NURNBERG ARE THE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JACK M.

FINGER.

YES.

ONE ITEM I DO WISH TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION ON THIS, THIS LITTLE MINI PORTION RIGHT HERE IS ITEM NUMBER 24.

YES, MS. SANDOVAL, I THINK, UM, I BROUGHT THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION.

I THINK THE LAST TIME, UM, IT WAS, UH, IT CAME UP FOR DELIBERATION.

YES, MS. SANDOVAL, UH, UH, IT IS SAID THAT, UH, THERE ARE STILL THE TWO, THE PARTIES INVOLVED ARE STILL DELIBERATING ON THIS AND STILL TRYING TO COME TO SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT.

BUT , PLEASE UNDERSTAND, UH, MS. COUNCILWOMAN, UH, IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE THAT IN VIEW OF THE FACT THAT THERE IS SO MUCH OPPOSITION TO THIS, THIS THING, THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY, NO ONE IS TRULY AGAINST THAT PER SE, BUT QUITE FRANKLY, THE, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY ARE THE ONES WHO WOULD HAVE TO LIVE RIGHT, RIGHT NEXT TO IT.

AND YES, I MEAN, WHEN YOU HAVE AS MUCH AS WELL, BUT BOTH, BOTH THE ZONING STAFF AND THE ZONING COMMISSION THOUGHT IT WAS A BAD IDEA, MAN, YOU HAVE OUT OF THE YEARS, 14 PEOPLE SURROUNDING THAT AREA.

NINE, NINE CAME BACK SAYING, NO, WE DON'T WANT IT.

I MEAN, YOU DO THE MATH ON THAT, THAT'S A GOOD PERCENTAGE.

YOU'RE DOING GOOD TO GET ONE OR TWO.

UH, IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED, YOU HAVE NINE PEOPLE SAYING NO TO THIS THING OUT OUTSIDE OF IT.

YOU HAD, UH, OUTSIDE OF IT, YOU HAD 132 PEOPLE SAY NO TO THIS FACILITY.

YOU HAD PEOPLE WHO SPOKE OUT AGAINST IT AT THE ZONING HEARING 14, SPEAK UP AGAINST IT.

WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE DOING GOOD, LIKE I SAY, YOU GET ONE OR TWO TO COME BY, SUCH HEARINGS YOU HAD AND YOU HAD AS MANY AS 12, 12 PEOPLE CALL UP AGAINST IT.

UH, WHY NOT JUST SAY NO TO THIS WHOLE THING AND, AND, UH, PUT IT OUT OF ITS MISERY INSTEAD OF DRAGGING EVERYBODY ELSE THROUGH ANOTHER

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HMM.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. FINGER.

PHILLIP MANA.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR CONTINUANCE OF ITEMS 12 22, 24 AND 29 TO JUNE 2ND.

IS THERE ANY COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THOSE ITEMS? COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL? UH, YES.

UH, ITEM ITEM 24.

I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THAT WAS POSTPONED BY, UH, THE APPLICANT TO JUNE 2ND.

MY OFFICE RECEIVED SOME CRITICISM REGARDING NOT NOTIFYING THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR AND ON THE RECORD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL, ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE MOTION? ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE.

ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? OKAY.

11.

OH, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL GO NOW TO, UH, THE ITEM TO CONTINUE TO DO JUNE 16, AND THAT IS ITEM 20.

I'LL HONOR MOTION, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 20 TO JUNE 16TH.

SO, ALL RIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION.

WAS THERE SECOND? SECOND MOTION, UH, BY ROCHA GARCIA, SECOND BY VIA GRANDE.

TO CONTINUE ITEM 20 TO JUNE 16TH, WE HAVE ONE CITIZEN SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM 20.

JACK FINGER, O MAYOR NURENBERG, OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, ONCE AGAIN, MY NAME IS JACK M FINGER, IT'S HARD TO KEEP, UH, UP WITH THESE THINGS UNLESS YOU HAVE A PROGRAM HERE.

ITEM NUMBER 20, UH, ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING DISTRICT BOUNDARY FROM COMMERCIAL C TWO TO R FIVE.

AND THAT IS IN THE, UH, UH, AND THAT'S LOCATED IN, UH, WELL, MS. ROCHA GARCIA'S DISTRICT.

YES, MA'AM.

NOW, THE ZONING COMMISSION, THE ZONING STAFF RECOMMENDED DENIAL FOR IT.

WELL, APPARENTLY IT'S, IT'S, UH, WELL, IT'S OUT ONCE AGAIN, AS STATED WITH SO MANY OF THESE, UH, SITUATIONS.

IT'S, UH, IT'S OUT OF CHARACTER.

IT REALLY SHOULDN'T BE THERE.

AND, UH, WHEN THE ZONING STAFF SAY SUCH THINGS, AND, UH, WELL, WHY NOT JUST SAY NO TO THE WHOLE THING? I MEAN, I, I, I, I CAN, I CAN TRUST THEM, ALL THESE THINGS UNLESS YOU HAVE SOME SPECIAL INFORMATION THAT TELLS US OTHERWISE THERE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. FINGER.

ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR CONTINUANCE OF ITEM 20 TO JUNE 16TH.

ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE VOTE.

ALL RIGHT, MOTION CARRIES.

I KNOW THE SUSPENSE IS KILLING YOU A LOT THERE.

SO MOTION CARRIES 11.

OH, THAT WAS THE, THE LAST THREE.

UM, WE'LL GO NOW TO OUR CONSENT ZONING AGENDA.

AND LET ME JUST READ OFF THE NAMES, OR EXCUSE ME, THE ITEM NUMBERS THAT ARE REMAINING ON CONSENT ITEMS. 3, 4, 5, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13, 15, 16, 21, 23, 28, AND 31.

THESE ARE OUR CONSENT ZONING ITEMS. UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SO MOVED.

ALRIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THOSE ITEMS. I JUST READ.

WE DO HAVE ONE CITIZEN SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEMS REMAINING ON CONSENT.

JACK FINGER AND JACK, AS YOU COME FORWARD, I WANTED TO OFFER A COMPLIMENT FROM COUNCILMAN PERRY ON YOUR CHOICE OF TIES TODAY.

? WELL, YES.

UH, BUT THEN, UM, YOU'RE RIGHT, BECAUSE

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WE JUST HAD SOME, UH, SOME PRAYER OCCASIONS JUST AT THE LOCAL CHURCH DOWNTOWN HERE.

AND SO, UH, THAT IN VIEW OF THE FACT THAT OUR NATION NEEDS SO MUCH PRAYER, I THINK, UH, IT, IT'S BEHOOVING UH, EVERY PATRIOTIC PERSON TOO WEARS SUCH, UH, APPAREL THERE.

UH, ONE ITEM ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA, UH, MR. NIRENBERG, OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL I WISH TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION IS ITEM NUMBER THREE.

AND ONCE AGAIN, MR. BRAVO, THIS IS IN YOUR DISTRICT AND WHAT IS IT? WELL, IT'S BASICALLY THEY JUST WANT TO PLACE SIX DWELLING UNITS.

I, I CALL IT SHOEHORNING.

I MEAN, YOU JUST SHOVE IT RIGHT INTO ONE LITTLE LOT, ONE LITTLE LOT.

AND, UH, I MEAN, YOU PUT SIX UNITS, MR. COUNCILMAN INTO ANYTHING.

YOU REALIZE HOW, HOW TINY THAT GETS, HOW, HOW DENSE THAT GETS.

UH, WHAT, WHY, WHY NOT SAY, JUST LOOK AT IT AND SAY, NO, I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE THERE.

I DON'T THINK IT IT IN RELATION TO ALL THE OTHER RESIDENCES AROUND HERE.

IT'S, IT'S JUST A BIT TOO TINY.

UM, ONE WONDERS HOW PEOPLE BREATHE IN THAT AREA.

SO, YEAH, SIR, WHY NOT? PLEASE, UH, CONSIDER, HERE'S ONE ITEM I WOULDN'T MIND YOU CONTINUING TO, TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT IT, SIR.

ITEM NUMBER THREE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. FINGER.

OKAY.

THERE IS A, UH, DID YOU SIGN UP TO SPEAK MA'AM? YEAH, THE, UH, SIGN UP PERIOD FOR COMMENTING DURING THE ZONING, UH, AGENDA WAS TWO O'CLOCK.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

LET ME TURN IT OVER TO, UM, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT ZONING AGENDA.

IS THERE DISCUSSION ON ANY ITEMS? MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL? UM, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR ME TO SEED MY TIME SO THAT THE APPLICANT MAY SPEAK? UM, YOU MAY USE YOUR TIME TO CALL HER UP IF YOU'D LIKE.

OKAY.

SORRY, WHAT DISTRICT IS THIS AGAIN? OH, ARE YOU GONNA CALL HER UP? NO.

OH, NEVERMIND.

I DEFER TO THE COUNCILMAN.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

SURE.

I'LL, I'LL, COUNCIL MEMBER BRA.

THANK YOU.

SURE.

I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE APPLICANT UP TO SPEAK ON, ON ITEM THREE.

I, I THINK MAYBE DENISE WOULD LET HER KNOW, BUT SHE APPROVED.

I DON'T THINK SO.

HI, MR. BRAVO, IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

YEAH.

MY NAME'S HANNAH BERNARD.

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE NORTH, THE UPTOWN ASSOCIATION NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND I LIVE AT THE, UM, 2 44 PRINCETON AVENUE, WHICH IS UNDER CONSIDERATION.

AND, UM, NOTHING IS GONNA BE CHANGED.

AND I PUT THAT IN THERE.

THOSE BUILDINGS ARE ALREADY THERE AND THEY'RE NOT SIX LIVABLE BUILDINGS.

THERE'S, UM, THE LARGE HOUSE IN FRONT, WHICH HAS THREE APARTMENTS, AND THEN THERE'S TWO APARTMENTS ON THE SIDE, AND THEN THERE'S A FOUR CAR GARAGE IN THE BACK, AND ALL WE NEED IS SOME METERS FOR THE GARAGES.

GREAT.

WELL, THIS IS ON CONSENT, SO I EXPECT IT TO PASS.

OH, PERFECT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER.

BRAVO, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? ALRIGHT, HEARING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO TO OUR INDIVIDUAL ITEMS NOW.

WE'LL START WITH ITEMS ONE AND TWO.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE AND TWO, AMENDING THE NEAR NORTHWEST COMMUNITY PLAN FROM URBAN LOAD DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL FROM R FOUR CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR HARDWARE SALES TO NC LOCATED AT 7 1 4 VANCE JACKSON.

STAFF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND DENIAL.

30 NOTICES MAILED TWO IN FAVOR.

ONE OPPOSED LOS ANGELES HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED COUNCILS MEMBER.

BRAVO.

UH, MOTION FOR DENIAL.

ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR DENIAL OF ITEMS ONE AND TWO.

WE DO HAVE, UM, ONE CITIZEN SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THOSE ITEMS. JACK FINGER.

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MY NAME IS JACK FINGER AND MR. BRAVO, I, I GUESS I SHOULD SAY TO THANK YOU FOR LOOKING AT THE FACTS ON THIS AND, AND MAKING THE RIGHT DECISION.

UH, THIS IS, THIS HAS SO MANY RED FLAGS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYBODY REASONABLE INDIVIDUAL WOULD WANT, WANT TO SAY YES TO IT.

I MEAN, THIS IS ABOUT, WHAT IS IT? UH, THE IDEA OF CHANGING, CHANGING THE, UH, WHAT IS IT, UH, FROM RESIDENTIAL TWO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, UH, YEAH, THE STAFF LOOKED AT THIS, THE ZONING COMMISSION LOOKED AT THIS, BOTH THE, UH, THE PLANNING AND THE, AND THE ZONING DEPARTMENT LOOKED AT THIS.

ALL FOUR OF 'EM SAID NO.

WHY? BECAUSE, WELL, IT'S A MATTER OF COMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT.

THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN A SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

NOT JUST IN OUR CITY, BUT MANY CITIES ALL THROUGH, ALL THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTRY.

AND I, I'VE DEALT WITH IT 20, 30 YEARS AGO WHEN I LIVED IN MY RESPECTIVE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND WE, WE SAID NO TO IT THEN.

AND I'M, I'M GLAD WE DID AT THE TIME.

YEAH.

UM, AND WHAT ALSO THE LOS ANGELES HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THOUGHT IT WAS A BAD IDEA.

YEAH.

COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT AMID SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.

YES.

MR. BRAVO, THANK YOU FOR SAYING NO TO THIS ONE.

ALL RIGHT.

THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS D ONE AND D TWO.

IT WAS ACTUALLY A RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL, SIR.

OH, I'M SORRY.

, SORRY.

ACTION FOR DENIAL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THERE WAS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR DENIAL OF ITEM ITEMS ONE AND TWO.

UM, I'M GONNA TAKE A VOICE VOTE ON THAT AS WELL.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? OKAY.

MOTION CARRIES.

THE ITEMS ONE AND TWO ARE DENIED.

MOVE NOW TO ITEM SEVEN.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS, UH, REZONING FROM R SIX CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR DAYCARE CENTER TO R SIX CD I D Z WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT LOCATED AT 5 36 EAST COURTLAND PLACE.

STAFF AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS, HOURS OF OPERATIONS SUNDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY, 9:00 AM TO 10:00 PM AND THURSDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, 9:00 AM TO 11:00 PM NO OUTDOOR AMPLIFICATIONS ATTACHED SIGN NOT TO EXCEED 36 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.

THERE'S BEEN 27 NOTICES MAILED.

ZERO IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED.

AND THE TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR.

COUNCILS MEMBER BRAVO.

MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS AS STATED.

RIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION BY BRO, UH, FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM SEVEN WITH CONDITIONS AS STATED.

I THINK I HEARD A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ.

ANY DISCUSSION? UH, WE HAVE NO CITIZEN SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM SEVEN, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES.

I THINK WE HAD 11.

I THINK WE HAD 11.

I DON'T KNOW WHO'S ROBBED.

OKAY, WE'LL GO TO ITEMS 17 AND 18.

17 AND 18 AMENDING THE HERITAGE SOUTH SECTOR PLAN FROM NATURAL TIER AND COUNTRY TIER TO SUBURBAN TIER FROM FR TO R FIVE, LOCATED AT 16 735 SOUTH STATE HIGHWAY 16.

STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

11.

NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED, AND TWO ARE OPPOSED OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT BOUNDARY COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEMS NUMBER 17 AND 18.

ALL RIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS 17 AND 18.

UM, WE DO HAVE A COUPLE CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THOSE ITEMS. WE'LL START WITH JACK FINGER, FOLLOWED BY JAMES MCKNIGHT.

WELL, MAYOR NURNBERG AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS JACK FINGER AND, UH, WELL, MS. UH, ROCHA GARCIA.

UH, THE REASON I WISH YOU WOULD NOT APPROVE THIS MADAM, IS BECAUSE OF IT'S OBVIOUS.

ALL THIS

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I MEAN, I, I WISH I DIDN'T HAVE TO COME UP HERE SO MANY TIMES, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE SO MANY SCANDALS AND SO LITTLE TIME, WELL, , THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS THERE.

UH, 17 AND 18, WHAT THE IDEA IS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PLACE SOMETHING THAT'S COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER IN THIS AREA.

IT'S STILL FOR PRETTY MUCH A FARM AND RANCH RURAL AREA HERE.

AND, UH, BUT SOMEONE WANTS TO PLACE A, UH, WHAT IS IT? 240 HOUSES, 240 HOUSES IN THIS.

I WONDER JUST HOW MUCH THAT WOULD DESTROY THIS AREA OF THOSE WHO HAPPENED TO LIVE THERE.

THE RURAL AREA WHERE, UH, PEOPLE THAT LIKE TO GET AWAY FROM IT ALL IS TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH.

I I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA SAY, WELL, A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE HAVE THE SAME IDEA, JACK.

THEY WANNA GET AWAY FROM IT ALL, AND THAT'S WHY AS MUCH AS 240 OF 'EM THERE.

WELL, UH, THERE IT IS TIME THAT YOU AS A, THE LEADER IN OUR COMMUNITIES HAS SAID NO TO SOME THINGS LIKE THIS.

MS. GARCIA.

SO, YES.

UH, , YES.

THAT'S, UH, YEAH.

THAT, THAT'S WHY THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, UH, THEY SAID, SAID NO TO THIS.

AND I APPRECIATE IF, IF YOU ALSO WOULD SAY NO TO IT INSTEAD OF JUST GOING AHEAD WITH IT THERE.

MAYBE I, I WOULD LIKE TO LISTEN TO SOME OF THE WHAT, IF ANY GOOD REASONS THERE ARE FOR IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MR. FINGER.

JAMES MCKNIGHT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, THERE'S APPRO, APPRO A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 17 AND 18.

ANY COUNSEL DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES.

ALRIGHT, ITEM 19.

AGENDA ITEM 19 IS A REZONING FROM R SIX TO R SIX CD WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 1 0 6 OLD VALLEY HIGH DRIVE.

STAFF AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND DENIAL.

25 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR AND ZERO OPPOSED.

COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

I MOTION FOR DENIAL.

THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR DENIAL OF ITEM 19.

THERE IS ONE CITIZEN SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THAT ITEM.

JACK FINGER.

I, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MS. RICHARD GARCIA, ALL I CAN SAY IS THANK YOU FOR DOING ONE RIGHT THING ANYWAY.

YOU KNOW, ONCE AGAIN, THE STAFF SAID IT WAS COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER, SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MR. FINGER.

ALRIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR DENIAL OF ITEM 19.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, I PLEASE VOTE AND REMINDER A YAY VOTE IS TO DENY ITEM 19 I.

ALL RIGHT, MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM 19 HAS BEEN DENIED.

ITEMS 26 AND 27.

AGENDA ITEM 26 AND 27.

27, EXCUSE ME, AMENDING THE WEST SOUTHWEST SECTOR PLAN FROM SUBURBAN TIER TO MIXED USE CENTER FROM R FOUR TO M X D WITH A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 50 UNITS PER ACRE, LOCATED AT TEN TWO, TWO, FIVE.

ROAD STAFF PLANNING AND ZONING, COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR NOTICES.

MAILED ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED, 15 IN OPPOSITION, AND THREE IN FAVOR OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT BOUNDARY.

AND THERE WAS A PETITION THAT WAS SUBMITTED, UM, IN OPPOSITION WITH 134 SIGNATURES.

COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL,

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WE GOT A QUESTION.

OH, FIRST.

UM, WELL THERE WILL BE AN AMENDED SITE PLAN AND SOME CONDITIONS, SO, UM, I'D LIKE TO REVIEW THOSE AFTER WE HEAR FROM THE CITIZENS, OR SHOULD I GO THROUGH EVERYTHING NOW? IS THERE AN AMENDED? DO IT NOW AND THEN WE WILL TAKE UP DISCUSSION ON THAT, INCLUDING COUNCIL, INCLUDING PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO, UH, THANK YOU RESIDENTS WHO ARE HERE, UH, TODAY AND FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION IN THIS.

UH, I THINK IT IS A MUCH BETTER PROPOSAL AFTER HEARING FROM YOU AND ALL OF YOUR NEIGHBORS.

UM, THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN IN THE WORK SINCE 2020.

UM, AND UH, WE ALSO HAD, UH, I'M AWARE THAT THE DEVELOPER AND, UH, REPRESENTATIVES OF THE DEVELOPER BLOCK WALKED THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES, UH, AND, UH, AND MET WITH, UH, RESIDENTS TO ENSURE TO THAT CONCERNS WERE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AND ULTIMATELY ADDRESS, UH, AND MY OFFICE DEFINITELY LIKE SEEING THAT.

SO THANK YOU.

UM, THE ORIGINAL PLAN, GO AHEAD AND COME ON UP.

UM, THE ORIGINAL PLAN HAD CALLED FOR HOMES ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF BRON ROAD, AS WELL AS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE HOMES, UH, ON MERIT FIELD IN A NEIGHBORHOOD CALLED ENCLAVE AT LAUREL CANYON.

COULD YOU SHARE THAT ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WITH US, EMILY, PLEASE? THE SLIDE? YES.

COUNCILWOMAN EMILY WEISLER WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN, I THINK WE'RE GETTING IT UPLOADED TO THE SCREEN NOW MAYBE, BUT I'LL TALK REAL BRIEFLY.

THERE WE GO.

UH, YES.

SO THIS IS THE ENTIRE ALMOST EIGHT ACRE PIECE OF PROPERTY WITH, UH, APPROXIMATELY 60 UNITS.

UH, THAT'S ALYSSA FIELD AND MERRIT TO THE, TO THE NORTHWEST THERE.

UM, AND THE ORIGINAL PLAN THAT BEGAN IN NOVEMBER, 2020 WAS FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE ENTIRE EIGHT ACRES.

AND SO, UH, BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES, THAT PLAN WAS, UH, ULTIMATELY CHANGED.

UH, ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS, UH, FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR ME WAS THE PROTECTION OF THAT GREEN BELT, UM, THAT THE COMMUNITY HAD BEEN, UH, IN SOME WAY PROMISED WHEN THEY FIRST MOVED INTO THAT AREA.

SO, UM, IT WAS, UH, THEIR INTEREST IN MY REQUEST TO ENSURE THAT THAT WOULD BE PROTECTED.

UH, CAN YOU TELL US, UH, HOW THOSE, UM, HOW THOSE AND OTHER PROTECTIONS ARE GOING TO COME INTO PLACE? YES, ABSOLUTELY.

KATT, CAN YOU SKIP TO FORWARD PLEASE? UH, SO THIS IS NOW, UM, SO WE'RE REZONING TO M X D FOR 164 UNITS WITH COMMERCIAL USES.

THERE ARE SEVERAL COMMERCIAL USES THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED BY THE, UH, COMMUNITY TO BE PROHIBITED.

UH, IT'S ACTUALLY ORIENTED BUSINESSES, HEAD SHOPS AND BARS TAVERNS ALL HAVE BEEN STRICTLY PROHIBITED ON THE SITE PLAN, AND THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE EMITTED SITE PLAN.

BUT THE AREA IN GREEN THAT YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN HERE IS ALMOST FOUR ACRES.

UH, WE HAVE EXECUTED RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS THAT RESTRICT DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE FOUR ACRES.

UM, AND THOSE COVENANTS ARE IN PLACE NOW, UH, WILL BE RECORDED TODAY.

UH, BUT THE PURPOSE OF THOSE COVENANTS IS ESSENTIALLY A PLACEHOLDER.

WE HAVE A FORMAL LETTER.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH GREEN SPACES ALLIANCE TO CREATE A CONSERVATION EASEMENT OF THOSE FOUR ACRES, UH, IN PERPETUITY.

SO THOSE FOUR ACRES BEHIND LY FIELD AND MERIT FIELD WILL BE PRESERVED IN PERPETUITY, UM, WITH THE GREEN SPACES ALLIANCE AS THE HOLDER.

AND SO THAT WILL PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, THAT WAS FOUR ACRES IS WHAT ADJOINS US WITH THE ENCLAVE OF FLORAL CANYONS.

UM, AND SO THAT WILL BE PRESERVED IN PERPETUITY IN ITS COMPLETELY NATURAL STATE.

GREAT.

SO WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THAT? UH, RIGHT NOW IT WILL BE THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THEN IT WILL GO TO GREEN SPACES ALLIANCE.

UM, HOW SOON DO YOU EXPECT THAT AGREEMENT TO GO INTO EFFECT? UM, IT IS UNDERWAY.

ONE TO TWO MONTHS.

WHO'S THAT? UH, THAT'S THE PROPERTY OWNER AND DEVELOPER.

OH, SO , YES, WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS WE SHOULD HAVE THAT FULLY WRAPPED UP.

WE HAVE A FULL COMMITMENT FROM GREEN SPACES ON THAT.

UM, OKAY.

AND SHOULD THAT FALL THROUGH, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? UH, THE COVENANTS REMAIN IN PLACE, WHICH RESTRICT DEVELOPMENT, UM, AND LIMIT THIS PROPERTY AS A RESERVED AREA FOR OPEN GREEN SPACE, UM, AND PARKLAND ONLY.

OKAY.

AND HOW WOULD THE COVENANTS, RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS BE ENFORCED? UH, THOSE ARE ENFORCED BY THE HOLDER OF THE COVENANTS.

UM, AND THAT IS, UH, WE WORKED WITH A MEMBER OUT IN WILDHORSE TO BE THE HOLDER OF THOSE COVENANTS.

OKAY.

AND IS, UH, THE ENCLAVE AT LAUREL CANYON? UH, I GUESS MY, HAVE THOSE RESIDENTS SPOKEN WITH THE, THE HOLDER AT WILDHORSE? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT COMMUNICATION HAS HAPPENED, BUT THESE ARE FULLY EXECUTED, READY TO GO.

OH, THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS ARE EXECUTED? YES.

MM-HMM.

, DO YOU HAVE COPIES THAT YOU COULD PROVIDE TO THE, UM, TO THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE HERE? YES.

FROM, UH, FROM LAUREL CANYON? YEAH.

AND, UM,

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UH, SO, UH, I THINK YOU'VE ADDRESSED, UM, OH, SORRY.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ALSO THERE WAS A PETITION WITH A NUMBER OF, UH, SIGNATURES IN OPPOSITION.

THEY WERE NOT ALL FROM, SOME WERE FROM THE AREA, OF COURSE, UH, SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THAT WE HAVE HERE, UH, SOME WERE FROM OUTSIDE OF, OF THE AREA.

UM, BUT THAT, UM, THE PEOPLE WHO WERE INVOLVED IN COLLECTING THOSE SIGNATURES ACTUALLY CAME FORWARD WITH A LIST OF REQUESTS FOR THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS.

SO I REALLY WANNA THANK THEM FOR, UH, MAKING THAT REALLY, REALLY GOOD FAITH EFFORT COMING FORWARD WITH THESE REQUESTS.

AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, UH, YOU AS THE DEVELOPER ARE ABLE TO MEET ALL OF THOSE REQUESTS IN THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS.

YES.

SO THE, WELL, THE COVENANTS THEMSELVES ARE SPECIFIC TO THE PRESERVATION OF THE LAND.

UM, THE AMENDED SITE PLAN FACILITATES THE RESTRICTION OF THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS ENFORCEABLE BY THE CITY.

UM, SO THAT WAY LIMITING THE BURDEN ON ANYONE ELSE FOR ENFORCEMENT THERE MM-HMM.

, AND THEN ALL OF THE OTHER COVENANTS PROPOSED BY THE COMMUNITY ARE ALREADY, UH, TAKEN CARE OF BY CITY CODE.

THINGS LIKE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, STORM WATER DRAINAGE, THOSE THINGS ARE ALREADY ALL IN PLACE.

AND THERE'S A SPECIFIC STATEMENT ON THE M X D SITE PLAN THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE CITY THAT SAYS THAT WE ARE NOT RELIEVED OF COMPLIANCE WITH THOSE CITY CODES AND REGULATIONS BY APPROVAL OF THIS SITE PLAN, WE STILL HAVE TO COMMIT AND COMPLY WITH ALL OF THOSE EXISTING RULES AND REGULATIONS, WHICH THIS SITE WILL BE DEVELOPED BASED ON THE RULES AND REGULATIONS IN PLACE NOW, RATHER THAN MAYBE RULES AND REGULATIONS FROM 25 YEARS AGO.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

THAT SAID, I MOVE TO APPROVE WITH THE AMENDED SITE PLAN.

ALL RIGHT.

THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS 26 AND 27 WITH, UH, THE AMENDED SITE PLAN.

AS NOTED, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL, GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT I'LL GIVE THE FLOOR BACK TO YOU.

UM, WE WILL START WITH JAMES WENDELL.

MR. WENDELL, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY BRIAN MORGAN.

UM, NOW A MESSAGE FROM MOLLY WENDELL, ANOTHER HOMEOWNER AND RESIDENT OF THE ENCLAVE OF LAUREL CANYON SINCE 2005.

THANK YOU, ELECTED MAYOR AND CITY OF COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR FULFILLING YOUR CIVIC RESPONSIBILITIES TO OUR CITY BY TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION MORE THAN JUST THE LANDOWNER'S PERSPECTIVE IN UPSTANDING, ETHICAL, FIGURE PUBLIC FIGURES.

YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE TO UPHOLD LEGAL AGREEMENTS AND PARTIALLY ADHERE TO LAWS AND REGULATIONS, MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE GREATER GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY, AND REPRESENT THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED YOU FOR THESE RESPONSIBILITIES.

OVER 300 NEIGHBORS FROM LAUREL CANYON WILDHORSE AND BRON RIDGE ARE IN AGREEMENT FOR YOU TO VOTE AGAINST THE REZONING OF THIS PROPERTY TO MIXED USE FOR A PLETHORA OF REASONS, INCREASING TRAFFIC, FLOODING, AIR QUALITY, WATER QUALITY, ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS, LOSS OF PRIVACY, INCREASED NOISE, INCREASED CRIME, MENTAL STRESS, DEVALUATION OF HOMES WITH LOWER COST HOUSING, AND SO FORTH.

THIS IS NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST.

THE DECISION YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS NOT AN ETHICAL DECISION TO UPHOLD NOT ONLY AN ETHICAL POSITION, UH, DECISION TO UPHOLD EXISTING CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS, BUT ALSO A DECISION THAT WILL IMPACT CURRENT AND FUTURE RESIDENTS AND ALL TAX PAYING CITIZENS ON THE SURFACE, THIS REZONING DECISION LOOKS TO BE ALIGNED WITH CITY OBJECTIVES FOR A GROWING CITY.

HOWEVER, TAKING A DEEPER LOOK REVEALS IT DOESN'T BECAUSE FINANCIALLY IN THE LONG TERM, MIXED USE WILL COST THE CITY MORE MONEY, CREATE MORE ISSUES THAN THE CURRENT CITY IS CURRENTLY TRYING TO RESOLVE.

INCREASED ROAD MAINTENANCE COSTS, CITY'S LIABILITIES FOR INCREASED TRAFFIC AND ACCIDENTS, LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND FOR THIS AREA, ADDITIONAL STRESS ON AQUIFER, INCREASED AIR POLLUTION, ENLARGING SCHOOLS HAVING TO REZONE SCHOOL DISTRICTS SO FORTH.

THIS IS NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST.

KNOWING TRAFFIC PROBLEMS ALREADY EXIST ON THIS ROAD, SHOULD BE REASON ENOUGH TO VOTE AGAINST REZONING.

HIGHER DENSITY HOUSING MEANS AT A MINIMUM, 164 ADDITIONAL CARS BASED UPON THE PROPOSED HOUSING UNITS.

TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS SINCE 2017 HAVE INCREASED BY 217%

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AND THAT IS WITHOUT ADDING ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC TO THIS ROAD, LIKE THE 1560 EXPANSION ROUTING TRAFFIC TO BROWN ROAD TO GET TO 1604.

THANK YOU.

MR. WENDELL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IS BRIAN MORGAN HERE? IF YOU HAVE A WRITTEN STATEMENT, MR. WENDELL, WE CAN DISTRIBUTE IT TO THE COUNCIL.

UM, IF YOU CAN GET IT TO OUR CLERK.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE MR. MORGAN.

UH, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY SANDRA ARCHIE.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR.

UM, I'D LIKE TO START FIRST START WITH SAYING THAT, UM, I REALIZE THAT THERE WAS SEVERAL COVENANTS THAT WERE AGREED TO, AND I HAD A SPEECH PREPARED, UM, FOR THE REASON TO VOTE NO, BUT I DID WANT TO PUT THAT IF IT'S GOING TO GO FORWARD, I DO NOT KNOW OR UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE WORKINGS THAT GO INTO THIS, BUT THOSE COVENANTS, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU GUYS MAKE THEM AT LEAST DETAILED ENOUGH THAT WE PRESERVE THE GREEN SPACE RIGHT BEHIND.

THERE WAS A GREEN AREA ON THE MAP EARLIER.

UM, THAT AREA BACKS UP DIRECTLY TO RESIDENTIAL HOMES, AND IT IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR MIXED USE.

WE'RE SURROUNDED BY FOUR LARGE SUBDIVISIONS.

WILDHORSE ALONE HAS 3000 HOMES.

SO I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR THAT THE FIRST TIME THIS WAS, UH, PRESENTED, IT WAS DENIED IN THE PLANNING.

AND SO THIS IS THE SECOND ROUND OF THE, OF THE ZONING.

UH, WE HAVE OVER 300 PETITIONS.

SO I WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT THERE ARE 300 SIGNATURES FROM TWO SUBDIVISIONS AND TWO HOAS ARE INVOLVED.

SO THERE IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF THE PEOPLE FROM DISTRICT SEVEN.

SO IT IS NOT JUST INDIVIDUALS, UM, THAT ARE AFFECTED.

SO PLEASE, WHEN YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE COVENANTS, UM, AND YOU DISCUSS THEM BACK IN THE CHAMBERS, MAKE SURE THAT THE WORDING, I WON'T UNDERSTAND IT, I'LL BE HONEST.

UM, JUST MAKE SURE THAT THE WORDING PRESERVES THAT AREA FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, WHERE IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR CHILDREN, UM, IN THE AREAS.

LIKE I SAID, MY CHILD, BOTH MY CHILDREN ARE DRIVING AGE AND BRAUN ROAD RIGHT NOW IS ONE OF THE TOP FIVE MOST DANGEROUS ROADS IN SAN ANTONIO, AND I HAVE TO TEACH MY CHILDREN TO DRIVE ON THAT ROAD.

SO PLEASE TAKE THOSE KIND OF THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION.

THE PRICE OF HOUSING RIGHT NOW, I FEEL LIKE MY CHILDREN WILL PROBABLY COME BACK AND STAY WITH ME, UM, AFTER THEY'RE DONE WITH THEIR EDUCATION.

AND THE DENSITY OF THAT AREA IS NOT ALWAYS APPROPRIATE FOR COMMERCIAL GRADE BUILDINGS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

I'D LIKE MY KIDS TO BE ABLE TO WALK TO THE STORES, I'D LIKE MY KIDS TO BE ABLE TO WALK TO THEIR FRIENDS' HOUSE AND SO ON.

SO PLEASE TAKE THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT COVENANTS AND WORDING COVENANTS.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M NOT BACK HERE IN TWO YEARS, UM, TRYING TO ARGUE A REZONING FOR THE GREEN BELT.

UM, WHATEVER'S THERE JUST NEEDS TO BE PERMANENT AND ENFORCEABLE.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU MR. MORGAN.

SANDRA ARCHIE, MS. ARCHIE BE FOLLOWED BY ALEXANDER ARCHIE, MS. SANDOVAL, I, SO I AM SORRY.

I'VE HAD HEALTH CHALLENGES AND I WAS NOT SURE I COULD BE HERE TODAY.

UM, MY NEIGHBORS HAD MENTIONED THAT Y'ALL SAID THAT THE COVENANTS WOULD BE HELD BY WILDHORSE.

ARE THEY GONNA BE HELD BY ENCLAVE OF LAUREL CANYON OR WILDHORSE? JUST TO CLARIFY.

OKAY.

UM, SO AGAIN, UM, WHAT I HAD PREPARED TO SAY, IT DOES SOUND LIKE THAT Y'ALL HAVE ALREADY MADE THE DECISION THAT YOU'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND ACCEPT THE COVENANTS THAT WERE PROPOSED.

I DID SET SOMETHING A LITTLE WHILE AGO, AND I WANTED EVERYBODY TO BE AWARE THAT THOSE 300 PETITIONS THAT WE HAD SIGNED, UM, THERE'S THIS, WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET TOGETHER WITH THE GREATER COMMUNITY.

THERE HAS NOT BEEN TIME IN THE SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME SINCE THOSE HAVE BEEN PRESENTED.

AND SO FOR THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE, UM, GOTTEN IS THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THOSE WHO'VE SIGNED THE PETITIONS, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, ARE OPPOSED STILL, UM, AS PRESENTED BECAUSE THERE'S THINGS THAT ARE NOT ANSWERED IN THEIR OPINION AND THEY STILL ARE FOR IT TO BE RESIDENTIAL.

UM, SO I JUST WANT THAT TO BE ON RECORD.

UM, AS IS THAT THEY ARE STILL OPPOSED.

UM, THEY FEEL LIKE THERE'S NOT, SO I WILL SHARE THAT.

EVERYTHING ELSE THAT I HAVE TO SHARE IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF, WE'VE SHARED BEFORE.

UM, SO AGAIN, IF IT'S ALREADY A DONE DEAL WITH THE COVENANTS, I'LL JUST REITERATE WHAT BRIAN SAID.

WE DO HOPE THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER US AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND LOOK OUT FOR US BECAUSE THERE'S MANY THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED THAT HAVE, UM, BEEN VERY HURTFUL TO OUR NEIGHBORS WITH REGARD TO TRAFFIC.

WE'VE HAD FATALITIES IN THE AREA AND WE JUST CANNOT SEE AS PROPOSED AT THIS TIME THAT THAT'S GONNA BE ABLE TO BE FIXED WITH THE AMOUNT OF SPACE THAT'S THERE IN THE ROAD WITHOUT GOING TO EMINENT DOMAIN AND TAKING PROPERTY.

UM, FOR THE CITY, THERE'S NOT ANY MORE SPACE TO WIDEN THE, THE ROAD THAT'S THERE.

OKAY.

WITH REGARD TO THE COVENANTS, MS. ARCHIE, ARE YOU, UH, SAVING THE REST OF YOUR TIME? YES.

OKAY.

LIKE I SAID, IF IT'S, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, YOU'VE PRETTY MUCH MADE THE DECISION THAT YOU'RE GONNA ACCEPT IT.

SO AT THIS POINT, IT'S MORE IMPORTANT

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THANK YOU, MS. ARCHIE.

UM, I'M GONNA CONTINUE ON WITH COUNCIL COMMENT OR WITH, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT UNLESS, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL, DO YOU WANNA RESPOND TO ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY? UM, YES, BUT I'LL BE BRINGING EMILY UP TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

WE'LL, WE'LL, MM-HMM.

WE'LL GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL WILL RESPOND, OKAY.

WHILE SHE'LL HAVE THE FLOOR AGAIN.

UM, OKAY.

ARE YOU, UH, ALEXANDER ARCHIE? YES, I AM.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AS WELL.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE THAT TIME NOW? I JUST WANNA GO AHEAD AND STATE FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE AGAINST IT.

THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ANSWERS FOR THEM TO MAKE A CORRECT QUICK DECISION WITHOUT BEING RATIONED, NOT THINKING IT THROUGH.

I JUST WANT THAT TO GO ON RECORD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. ARCHIE.

JACK FINGER, MR. FING, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY KYLE FORIN, MAYOR NURENBERG, OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS JACK MINGER AND, UH, UH, MS. SAND OF ALL, I'M, THE REASON I'M CHIMING IN WITH SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OPPOSING THIS IS BECAUSE, WELL, I'VE LOOKED AT THE BACKUP DOCUMENTS AND I SEE SOME OF THESE, THESE FACTS HERE.

IT SAYS IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE, FROM WHAT I'VE READ IT, IT'S GONNA BE PLACING ABOUT 50 LIVING UNITS PER ACRE, 55 0.

THAT'S QUITE A FEW LIVING UNITS IN JUST ONE ACRE.

MS. SANDOVAL, UH, PE IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP FOR THIS THING, I MEAN, IT'S JUST ACROSS THE STREET FROM REGULAR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.

YEAH, THEY'RE JUST RIGHT ACROSS BRAUN ROAD THERE THAT THEY'RE JUST ACROSS THE STREET.

THEY'RE PRACTICALLY HUGGING IT THERE.

AND, UH, IT, IT, EVEN A LAY PERSON LIKE ME CAN SEE HOW OUT OF CHARACTER THAT IS FOR, FOR, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU HAD, UH, AS MANY AS EIGHT PEOPLE CALL IN AGAINST THIS TO THE ZONING COMMISSION AT THEIR HEARINGS THERE, EIGHT SAYING THEY DON'T LIKE IT.

UH, UH, AND OUT OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FOOT BOUNDARY, YOU HAD AS MANY AS 15 PEOPLE OPPOSE IT.

15.

SO MS. SANDOVAL, UM, EVEN WITH YOUR RESTRICTIONS THERE, I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE ENOUGH TO, TO AS ASSUAGE A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO, WHO HAVE TO LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, I APPRECIATED MR. MS. SANDOVAL, IF YOU JUST REALLY RE RESCINDED THO THOSE RESTRICTIONS AND JUST SAY NO TO THE WHOLE THING AS REALLY SHOULD BE DONE.

MS. SANDOVAL, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. FINGER.

KYLE FORIN.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

AND, UM, MS. SANDOVAL, THANK YOU FOR, UH, YOUR SUPPORT AND, UM, MY NAME'S KYLE FORIN.

UH, MY FIANCE OLGA BARR IS ALSO IN THE AUDIENCE.

UH, WE OWN THE HOME AT 1 0 8 0 2 MERRIFIELD.

UM, WE'VE BEEN HOSTING COMMUNITY GATHERINGS OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS TO, UM, DISCUSS THE CHANGES AND THE PROPOSALS REZONING.

SO IT'S BEEN QUITE THE, QUITE THE ADVENTURE.

SO, UM, THANK YOU TO MY NEIGHBORS.

UM, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO'RE NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT TODAY, BUT UM, I DO WANNA DO WANNA CALL THAT OUT.

UM, YOU KNOW, AS SANDRA KIND OF KIND OF ALLUDED TO, IT ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE THE DECISION HAS, HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE.

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT ARE STILL NOT CLEAR.

I HAD A SPEECH TO WRITTEN UP.

UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA NOTE THAT OUR COMMUNITY, UM, CAME TOGETHER TO LOOK AT THIS AND THE COVENANTS THAT ARE IN PLACE THAT ARE BEING GIVEN TO US RIGHT NOW, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, IN MY OPINION NOT DETAILED ENOUGH.

UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST WANNA NOTE THAT THERE'S FOUR MAIN THINGS.

UM, AGAIN, WHAT'S THE GREEN SPACE GONNA BE USED FOR PRIMARILY THAT STILL HASN'T BEEN CLEAR NOISE, TRAFFIC PRIVACY, YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD IT SEVERAL DIFFERENT TIMES.

UM, MAINLY I WOULD JUST LIKE TO STATE THAT MY HOME SPECIFICALLY IS IMPACTED IN A VERY SIGNIFICANT WAY.

I'M THE FIRST HOUSE AS YOU PASS THIS CORNER WHERE THAT GREEN SPACES AND, UM, ON OFF OF LYON ROAD.

UM, BEYOND THAT, I THINK I'LL GO AHEAD AND GIVE THE REST OF MY TIME BACK, UM, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU GUYS.

SO THANK YOU GUYS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR.

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COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

AND, UM, EMILY, COULD YOU, UH, PLEASE COME UP, UM, A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU ABOUT THE COVENANTS, AND THEN I WANT TO ASK MELISSA ABOUT THE PREVIOUS, UH, AGREEMENT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP.

THANK YOU.

YOU, UM, CAN YOU TELL ME, IS IT, UH, WELL, NUMBER ONE, WHY ARE THE COVENANTS WITH WILDHORSE AND NOT ENCLAVE, AND IS IT POSSIBLE TO ALSO HAVE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS WITH, UH, THE ENCLAVE? SO THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS WERE EXECUTED, UM, WITH THE HOLDING PARTY, UM, SIMPLY 'CAUSE THAT WAS A WILLING PARTY TO BE THE HOLDER OF THE COVENANTS.

UM, WE'RE HAPPY TO DISCUSS, UM, ENCLAVE, THEIR FORMAL H O A ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL, UM, BEING A PARTY TO THOSE COVENANTS, UM, AS WELL.

UM, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS CLEAR THAT THOSE COVENANTS APPLY TO THE AREA IN GREEN.

I DON'T KNOW KATT IF THEY CAN SEE THAT ON THIS PRESENTATION.

UM, THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE REZONING AREA.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION FOR SURE.

OKAY.

SO AGAIN, THAT AREA IS NOT BEING REZONED, BUT IT'S ABOUT PROTECTING THE AREA.

CORRECT.

AND AS I, I TOLD THE RESIDENTS BEFORE, UM, THAT WAS ONE OF MY, UH, AREAS WHEN I CAME ON COUNCIL, IS MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT THEY HAD A GREEN BELT WOULD KEEP THEIR GREEN BELTS, UH, AS, AS DEVELOPMENT CONTINUED.

UM, OKAY.

HANG TIGHT.

UM, MELISSA, COULD YOU, UH, SO OH, SORRY EMILY.

SO COULD I GET YOUR COMMITMENT TO WORK WITH, UM, THE ENCLAVE TO ENSURE, UH, THAT THEY ARE COME ON BOARD WITH THE, WELL, SORRY, THAT THEY, THAT THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INPUT YES, MA'AM.

TO THOSE COVENANTS, UH, AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN THEM.

YES, MA'AM.

AND, UH, CAN YOU REMIND ME, UM, OR CAN YOU TELL US AGAIN THE CONDITIONS IN THAT, IN THOSE COVENANTS CAME FROM WHERE, UM, QUITE FRANKLY FROM THE LAST 18 MONTHS OF COMMUNITY WORK, THE RESIDENTS, WHEN WE WERE ORIGINALLY PROPOSING IN A SEPARATE ZONING CASE TO REZONE THE ENTIRE, UM, ALMOST EIGHT ACRE PIECE, UH, THE RESIDENTS WERE VERY, VERY CLEAR THAT THEY DID NOT WANT ANYTHING BEHIND THOSE HOMES ALONG MERRI FIELD OR THE HOMES ON ALI FIELD.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, AND SO WHEN WE REAPPLIED WITH THIS SEPARATE ZONING CASE, UH, WE TOOK THAT AREA OUT AND THE PURPOSE OF THE COVENANTS IS TO PER, EXCUSE ME, PRESERVE THAT LAND IN ITS NATURAL STATE.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE ALSO TAKEN IT A STEP FURTHER WITH GREEN SPACE'S ALLIANCE TO CREATE THAT CONSERVATION EASEMENT.

UH, SO THAT WAY IT'S PRESERVED IN PERPETUITY IN ITS NATURAL STATE.

OKAY.

AND CAN YOU REMIND ME THE LAST TIME YOU MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS FROM, UH, ANYBODY FROM, UH, THE ENCLAVE? MONDAY EVENING.