* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:34] WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL B SESSION OF OCTOBER THE THIRD. COUNCIL MEMBER TRAVINO HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER CRUZ WILL NOT BE HERE AS HE IS ATTENDING AN A CONFERENCE OUT OF TOWN. COUNCIL MEMBER VRAN HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER SALDANA HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. COUNCIL MEMBER BROCK HOUSE PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER SAN DEVAL. COUNCIL MEMBER ELIAS. COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY HERE. AND MAYOR NURENBERG HERE. MAYOR, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. WELCOME TO OUR CITY COUNCIL B SESSION AGENDA. THE TIME IS 2:10 PM AND WE HAVE, UH, TWO ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA TODAY. WE'RE GONNA TAKE 'EM AN OPPOSITE ORDER BECAUSE I KNOW A NUMBER OF FOLKS ARE HERE, UH, FOR THE SHORT TERM RENTAL. UM, SO GO AHEAD. CITY MANAGER, SCULLY. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE THAT WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THIS AFTERNOON IS THE RESULT OF A CITY COUNCIL REQUEST THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY FORMER CITY COUNCILMAN MIKE GALLAGHER BACK IN FEBRUARY OF 2017. SO THERE HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANT, UH, COMMUNITY AS WELL AS COUNCIL DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, THIS ITEM, UH, THE SHORT TERM RENTALS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. OVER THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF, UH, THE REQUEST WAS THAT THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT REVIEW BEST PRACTICES OF OTHER CITIES AND AROUND THE NATION, AND WITH A FOCUS ON FIVE ELEMENTS, WHICH INCLUDED HOTEL OCCUPANCY, TAXES AND OPTIONS FOR REGISTERING IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THE HOME SHARING, UH, THROUGHOUT THE CITY. TO DO THIS, OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT CREATED A DIVERSE TASK FORCE OF COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES, S T R OPERATORS, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION LEADERS, REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS, HOTEL AND APARTMENT ASSOCIATIONS TO PROVIDE STAKEHOLDER INPUT. THE COUNCIL WAS BRIEFED ON A FIRST DRAFT OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE DURING A B SESSION BACK IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR, AND DIRECTED STAFF TO PROPOSE ADDITIONAL CHANGES BASED ON COUNCIL'S INPUT DURING THAT POLICY DISCUSSION. THE THEMES AT THAT TIME THAT THE COUNCIL ASKED US TO TAKE A LOOK AT WAS TO ENSURE THAT CITY INCENTIVES ARE NOT USED FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS TO EVALUATE HOW POLICY CAN BE DEVELOPED FOR AREAS MOST IMPACTED BY WHAT WE HAVE COME TO REFER TO AS ST THE SHORT TERM RENTALS. REVIEW THE PROPOSED FEE STRUCTURE, UH, CONSIDER CONCERNS WITH PROPOSED SPECIAL EXCEPTION PROCESS THROUGH THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, REVIEW THE PROPOSED DENSITY WITHIN NEIGHBORHOODS AND FOR MULTI-FAMILY UNITS, AND INCLUDE SELF-CERTIFICATION INSPECTIONS AS PART OF THE PERMITTING PROCESS. SO SINCE THAT B SESSION, ADDITIONAL AND ADDITIONAL 10 MEETINGS HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED WITH THE TASK FORCE, AS WELL AS VARIOUS STAKEHOLDER GROUPS TO DISCUSS THESE PROPOSED CHANGES THAT THE COUNCIL REQUESTED BACK IN APRIL. THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE WAS BRIEFED ON THE REVISED PROPOSED ORDINANCE IN JUNE. UH, THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT PLANNING COMMISSION AND ZONING COMMISSION WERE ALSO BRIEFED OVER THE SUMMER MONTHS, UH, ON THE PROPOSALS AS WELL. SO THIS AFTERNOON, MIKE SHANNON, OUR DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, IS HERE TODAY TO BRIEF THE COUNCIL ON THIS FINAL PROPOSED ORDINANCE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE POLICY DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL THIS AFTERNOON ON HOW TO PROCEED WITH THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS. SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MIKE SHANNON. THANK YOU, CHERYL. I THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UM, UH, WELL, HERE WE ARE AGAIN AND, UH, IT'S BEEN A LONG PROCESS. UH, THIS STARTED, UH, EARLY IN 2017. AND, UH, AS MENTIONED, UH, WE DID, UH, TALK ABOUT THIS IN APRIL. UH, WE GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK, UH, FROM YOU BACK THEN. WE'VE WORKED ON, UH, SOME OF THE CHANGES, OR WE MADE SOME CHANGES. WE'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT OF PROCESS AND STEPS AND MEETINGS, UH, TO GET BACK HERE. SO WE'LL JUST JUMP RIGHT INTO IT. SO, UH, AS INDICATED AGAIN, UH, THE COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST STARTED IN 2017, BUT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS. AND JUST REMEMBER, WE ALL KNOW SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE THOSE RENTALS THAT ARE LESS THAN 30 DAYS. SO NOT THE LONG-TERM RENTAL, UH, HOUSING MARKET THAT'S OUT THERE, BUT THE, THE LESS THAN 30 DAY MARKET, UH, AND REALLY WHAT WE CAN AND SHOULD DO, UH, TO REGULATE THOSE WITHIN OUR CITY. [00:05:03] SO, UH, TO RE TO REMIND YOU, UM, THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAD TO GET EVERYBODY TO THE TABLE, UH, REALLY A MULTI-STAKEHOLDER GROUP. AND THE CONCERN IN THE BEGINNING WAS, WHO SHOULD WE GET, UM, IN THIS TASK FORCE OR THE PROCESS? SO WE REALLY ASKED EVERYBODY OR ALL THESE DIFFERENT GROUPS TO COME TOGETHER. AND REMEMBER, WE HAD NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS AND CITIZENS, SHORT-TERM RENTAL OPERATORS. UH, WE HAD THE S T R PLATFORMS, YOU KNOW, LIKE AIRBNB, UH, HOMEAWAY, THOSE, WE ASKED THEM TO COME IN, AND WE LEARNED A LOT THROUGH THAT PROCESS. UM, WE ALSO HAD SOME INDUSTRY ASSOCIATIONS, APARTMENT ASSOCIATION, HOTEL AND LODGING AT THE TABLE. UH, REAL ESTATE COUNCIL. WE JUST ASKED A LOT OF PEOPLE TO COME IN. WE HAD A LOT OF MEETINGS AND WE PRESENTED, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS, UH, A BALANCED ORDINANCE OR WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS A BALANCED ORDINANCE BACK IN APRIL. UH, BUT WE DID HAVE A LOT OF COMMENTS. AND, UH, WE, YOU ASKED US TO, TO REVISE THE ORDINANCE, TAKE A LOT OF THAT FEEDBACK. AND TODAY I'M GONNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT THOSE KEY CHANGES AND THEN REMIND YOU SOME OF THE KEY ELEMENTS THAT STAYED THE SAME. AND WE DID GO TO THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE BACK IN JUNE WITH SOME OF THEM. THEY ASKED US TO COME BACK HERE. AND, UM, ONE OTHER THING THAT I DON'T HAVE UP ON THE SLIDE HERE, THERE WAS, UH, KIND OF AN IMPORTANT, UM, RULING BY THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT ON THE TIMBERWOOD PARK, H O A AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT, UH, AND HOW IT AFFECTED US. SO, IF YOU REMEMBER, ONE OF THE KEY INITIATIVES OF THE KEY DECLARATIONS OF ANY REGISTRATION ORDINANCE, UH, THAT WE, WE, WE, WE WE PROPOSED BACK IN APRIL WAS THERE'S A VERY CLEAR DISTINCTION BETWEEN DIFFERENT TYPES OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS. THE BIGGEST DISTINCTION THAT WE CAME OUT WITH IN THE TASK FORCE, AND THIS IS HAPPENING ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND WORLD, IS THE WHOLE IDEA OF OWNER OCCUPIED VERSUS NON-OWNER OCCUPIED SHORT-TERM RENTALS. SO WE'RE GONNA CALL THOSE TYPE ONE AND TYPE TWO STILL. TYPE ONE IS IF YOU OWN AND LIVE IN YOUR HOUSE AND YOU RENT OUT A ROOM OR SOME ROOMS OR MAYBE THE GRANNY FLAT, UH, OR APARTMENT IN THE BACK, YOU OWN, UH, AND LIVE THERE, THAT'S A TYPE ONE. YOU'RE RENTING OUT A PIECE OF YOUR PROPERTY, BUT YOU STILL GENERALLY LIVE THERE, HAVE CONTROL OF IT. MOST OF THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS, INCLUDING CITIZENS, UH, SHORT-TERM RENTAL OPERATORS, WE, THE, THE CONSENSUS WAS THAT WASN'T A PROBLEM OR WHAT, SOMETHING THAT WE WERE CONCERNED. NOT A LOT OF NUISANCE PROBLEMS THAT PEOPLE WERE PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO, UH, THE, IT'S STILL A SHORT-TERM RENTAL. IT'S STILL GONNA BE PROPOSED, UH, TO HAVE A REGISTRATION REQUIREMENT, BUT IT WAS THE TYPE TWO. AND IF YOU REMEMBER THE OWNER, UH, NON-OWNER OCCUPIED TYPE TWO, WHERE YOU OWN A PROPERTY, BUT YOU DON'T LIVE THERE AND YOU'RE GONNA RENT OUT THAT LIVING UNIT OR, UH, MULTIPLE LIVING UNITS ON THAT PROPERTY. UH, THE CONCERN WAS, UM, THAT'S REALLY TAKING AWAY FROM THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, MAYBE THAT'S MORE LIKE A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS OR A HOTEL. SO A LOT OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS HAPPENED. WHAT WE PROPOSED BACK IN APRIL WAS, IN ORDER TO BE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, ALL OF THOSE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT PROCESS, WHICH IS, UH, ASKING FOR A SPECIAL EXCEPTION. THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED FROM YOU ALL WAS THAT THAT WAS GENERALLY TOO HARSH. NOW, NOT EVERYONE AGREED, YOU ALL REMEMBER THE, THE GOOD AMOUNT OF DEBATE WE HAD ON THAT. SO THE KEY CHANGE IN THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE IS TO FIND AN THAT BALANCE THAT ALLOWS TYPE TWOS BY RIGHT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT UP TO A CERTAIN POINT, UH, WHERE THE DENSITY IN THAT BLOCK FACE OR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, IF IT BECOMES OVERRUN WITH TOO MANY, WHICH IS THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION, HOW MANY IS TOO MANY? UH, BUT WE'RE PROPOSING TODAY TO ALLOW TYPE TWOS IN RESIDENTIAL NE NEIGHBORHOODS BY RIGHT, WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO THE B O A UP TO A CERTAIN POINT. AND THAT POINT IS, IT'S GONNA SOUND WEIRD, 12 POINT A HALF PERCENT, RIGHT? WELL, AND YOU'RE GONNA SAY WHY 12 POINT A HALF PERCENT? WELL, 12 POINT A HALF PERCENT IS REALLY ONE EIGHTH. IF YOU REMEMBER, WE DID HAVE A DENSITY LIMIT BACK. IT WAS A 300 FOOT SPACING. UH, SO TWO THINGS HAPPENED BASED ON THE FEEDBACK, UH, THAT WE RECEIVED, AND SOME FURTHER ANALYSIS ABOUT 12.5% OR ONE EIGHTH IN A TYPICAL BLOCK FACE. SO A TYPICAL, UH, GOING UP AND DOWN THE STREET WHEN YOU HIT CROSS STREETS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, GENERALLY THEY COULD BE 10 TO 15 OR 20 HOUSES LONG. UM, ABOUT ONE OUT OF EVERY EIGHT IS ABOUT ONE OUT OF EVERY 300 FEET IF YOU'RE DEALING WITH A TYPICAL 50 FOOT LOT. SO THERE WAS SOME METHOD TO THIS, UH, BUT GENERALLY BY GIVING A PERCENTAGE, THAT WOULD ALLOW MAYBE TWO SHORT-TERM RENTALS TO BE LOCATED ON THAT BLOCK FACE, BUT MAYBE CLOSER TO THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. SO IF YOU'RE CLOSER AT THE EDGE OF MAYBE A FREDERICKSBURG ROAD, UH, WE KEEP 'EM A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THE COMMERCIAL, UH, CORRIDOR AND THEN NOT PUSH THEM INTO, UH, THE MORE OF THE RESIDENTIAL PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THAT'S JUST AN ADDITIONAL WAY TO LOOK AT DENSITY. UH, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TODAY. UH, WE ALSO HAD A, A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS ON LIKE MULTI-FAMILY UNITS AND MULTI-FAMILY UNITS. COULD BE A, UM, A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT MAYBE THEY HAVE AN RMM FOUR OR [00:10:01] MF 33. THEY MIGHT HAVE A THREE PLEX OR A FOUR-PLEX, UH, IN THEIR PROPERTY INSIDE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD, OR IT COULD EVEN BE THE APARTMENT COMPLEX. SO WE'VE ADDED, UH, SOME DENSITY LIMITS FOR RESIDENTIAL. UH, TYPICALLY, AGAIN, THAT ONE OUT OF EVERY EIGHT ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT? AND THEN IF YOU WANT MORE THAN THAT, YOU WOULD GO THROUGH THE B O A PROCESS. UH, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MULTIFAMILIES, UH, LESS THAN SEVEN UNITS. UH, YOU WOULD BE ALLOWED ONE, UH, TYPE TWO BY RIGHT? AND THEN CERTAINLY TO THE 12.5%. BUT THE KEY THERE, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF COMPLICATED. UH, BUT THE KEY THERE IS IF YOU HAD A FOURPLEX IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU LIVED THERE, YOU LIVED IN ONE UNIT AND YOU WANTED TO RENT OUT A SHORT-TERM RENTAL ON THE SECOND UNIT, THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A TYPE ONE. OKAY? YOU'RE ALLOWED JUST LIKE THE, THE PERSON WHO OWNS A GRANNY FLAT, BUT IF YOU WANTED TO RENT OUT THE THIRD OR FOURTH UNIT OR BOTH, THOSE WOULD FALL UNDER THE TYPE TWO RULES. AND WE HAVE, UH, DENSITY REGULATIONS ON THOSE. SO THAT'S HOW YOU WOULD LOOK AT THOSE. SO BED AND BREAKFAST ARE STILL INCLUDED IN THE CALCULATION, UM, THAT WE PROPOSED BACK IN APRIL. SO, BUT THAT KEY DENSITY LIMIT, THAT IS THE KEY CHANGE THAT WE'RE PRESENTING TODAY, ALLOWING TYPE TWOS BY RIGHT UP TO A CERTAIN POINT. AND AFTER THAT, IF THEY STILL WANT TO PROPOSE, UH, TO GET THEIR PERMIT, THEY'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE B O A PROCESS, UH, AND GET THEIR SPECIAL EXCEPTION. AND, AND, AND FROM THE B O A. SO, UH, I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE MULTI-UNIT CLARIFICATIONS ALREADY. UH, EVERY SHORT-TERM RENTAL UNIT, THE FULL UNIT, UH, IF YOU HAVE A KITCHEN BATH, UH, BEDROOM, UH, EACH ONE OF THOSE WOULD REQUIRE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL PERMIT. UH, WE TALKED ABOUT ONE ADDITIONAL ACCESSORY DWELLING. SO IF I DO HAVE, UM, A, A HOME AND I HAVE A, A GRANNY FLAT IN THE BACK OR AN APARTMENT IN THE BACK, THAT'S STILL CONSIDERED A TYPE ONE. BUT IF I HAD MORE ON MY PROPERTY AND I'M ALLOWED BY ZONING, YOU'LL GO THROUGH THE TYPE TWO PROCESS FOR THOSE. AND THEN, UH, THE MULTIFAMILY UNITS UNDER COMMON OWNERSHIP, THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT CONDO DEVELOPMENTS OR CONDO COMPLEXES. SO IF YOU OWN AND LIVE IN YOUR CONDO UNIT, BUT YOU OWN ANOTHER ONE RIGHT NEXT TO YOU, THAT WOULD BE A TYPE ONE. BUT IF YOU BUY UP THREE OR FOUR OF THOSE, WHICH THAT'S HAPPENING, AND SOME OF OUR CONDO DEVELOPMENTS, UM, THOSE WOULD FALL UNDER, THOSE ADDITIONAL ONES WOULD FALL UNDER THE TYPE TWO. SO WE'VE TRIED TO ACCOUNT FOR SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS YOU ALL BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION. AND I WILL TELL YOU THE, THE MULTI-FAMILY OR MULTI-UNIT, UH, MARKETPLACE IS EVER CHANGING AND EVER EVOLVING. UH, EVEN JUST A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, UM, ONE OF THE, UH, ONE OF THE COMPANIES CAME TO US AND ASKED, THEY SAID, WE HAVE THIS BUSINESS MODEL WHERE SOMETIMES WE TAKE OVER THE WHOLE BUILDING AND TURN IT INTO A HOTEL. WELL, THAT'S A TYPICAL CHANGE OF USE PROCESS. WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ZONING CHECKS AND BALANCES, THE BUILDING AND FIRE CODES. BUT WHAT IF WE JUST, YOU KNOW, LEASE OUT 10 APARTMENTS OUT OF 30, AND THEN WE START SUBLEASING THEM WITH THE PERMISSION OF THE OWNER? WELL, THIS ORDINANCE WILL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. UH, THEY WILL HAVE TO GET PERMITS. THERE'S A TYPE TWO ELEMENT TO THAT. THEY'LL HAVE TO GET SOME PERMISSION PROBABLY THROUGH B O A. UM, BUT THAT WILL BE SOMETHING WE HAVE TO KIND OF KEEP WATCHING, UM, AS THIS MARKET IS EVER EVOLVING. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL BE LOOKING AT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. BUT THE CURRENT ORDINANCE WILL, UH, BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT. SO SOME OF THE OTHER KEY CHANGES WE, WE, WE HEARD, AND IT WAS ALREADY MENTIONED, BUT THE SELF-CERTIFICATION IN LIEU OF INITIAL CITY INSPECTION. SO, UM, I THINK THIS WAS BROUGHT UP BY COUNCILMAN PERRY AND MAYBE SOME OTHERS. SO THAT INITIAL CITY INSPECTION MIGHT BE BURDENSOME. UM, BECAUSE SOME OF THE SAFETY REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED IN SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE VERY SIMILAR, IF NOT THE SAME AS YOUR HOME SMOKE DETECTORS, CARBON MONOXIDE DETECTORS, FIRE EXTINGUISHERS. WE WE'RE PROPOSING TO, UH, HAVE THE OWNER SELF CERTIFY THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT THEY HAVE. THOSE, IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THEM, WE'LL BE THERE TO HELP THEM, OF COURSE. BUT THEY WILL SELF-CERTIFY. UH, OTHER JURISDICTIONS ARE DOING THIS. I THINK NEW ORLEANS IS DOING THAT AS ONE OF THE JURISDICTIONS. UH, WE, WE REACHED OUT TO THEM, THEY HAVE NO PROBLEMS. IT'S ACTUALLY WORKING. IT HAS STREAMLINED THE PROCESS FOR BOTH THE CITY AND THE, UH, SHORT-TERM RENTAL OPERATORS. UH, SO WE ARE PROPOSING THAT NOW, THAT ACTUALLY REDUCES OUR COST A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T NEED AS MANY INSPECTORS, UH, BASED ON THE EXPECTED AMOUNT OF THESE THAT WE'LL SEE. UH, SO THEREFORE, I WAS ABLE TO ADDRESS ANOTHER COMMON, UH, THEME WAS THE REDUCTION IN FEES. SO WE WERE PROPOSING, UH, BACK IN APRIL, A $200 INITIAL FEE FOR EVERY SHORT-TERM RENTAL UNIT, BOTH TYPE ONE AND TYPE TWO. AND THEN EVERY THREE YEARS HAVE A, UH, RENEWAL OR RE-REGISTRATION, UH, PERMIT. THAT WOULD BE A HUNDRED. SO WE'VE REDUCED THAT DOWN TO A HUNDRED INITIAL, AND THEN A HUNDRED EVERY THREE YEARS. SO, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE DONE THAT BECAUSE OF THE STREAMLINED CHANGES. SO, UH, WHAT WAS ALSO PRESENTED IN APRIL WAS THE CITY HOUSING INCENTIVES. SO, UH, THE CONCERN THERE BEING THAT IF YOU GET SOME CITY HOUSING INCENTIVES, WHICH ARE GENERALLY INTENDED TO PRODUCE HOUSING, OR I'LL JUST SAY FOR THIS TERM, LONG-TERM HOUSING, WHETHER IT BE LONG-TERM APARTMENTS OR OWNER-OCCUPIED HOUSING, THAT YOU WOULD BE EXCLUDED FROM APPLYING FOR A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, UH, PERMIT. OR IF YOU'RE GONNA BE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, YOU CAN'T GET THOSE HOUSING INCENTIVES. [00:15:01] SO GENERALLY WE AGREE WITH THAT. WE'RE WRITING THAT INTO THE ORDINANCE. UH, ONE CAVEAT, UH, SO FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE HERE YESTERDAY IN THE ECONOMIC AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE WITH THE PRESENTED, UH, PRESENTATION BY C C D O AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THERE WILL BE SOME LANGUAGE THOUGH, IF IT'S, IF IT'S YOUR HOUSE AND YOU WANT TO TYPE ONE, UH, YOU WANT TO, YOU WANNA RENT OUT A ROOM OR, UH, MAYBE THAT GRANNY FLAT, UH, THAT THOSE WOULD STILL BE ALLOWED. SOME OF THE INCENTIVES, AND WE'VE HEARD FROM SOME OF OUR SHORT-TERM RENTAL OWNERS, ESPECIALLY THE TYPE ONES, IS, UH, GEEZ, I'M, I'M, I'M DOING THOSE SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN MY EXTRA BEDROOM OR MY GRANNY FLAT IN THE BACK, UH, IN ORDER TO KEEP UP WITH MY MORTGAGE PAYMENT, KEEP UP WITH THE TAXES. SO WE FELT THAT THAT WAS IN THE SPIRIT OF, UH, MAKING SURE PEOPLE CAN STAY IN THEIR HOMES. UH, SO THAT'LL BE, UH, I THINK THE INTENT OF WHAT WAS PRESENTED, UH, BACK IN APRIL. UM, UH, BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA DO TYPE TWO RENTALS, YOU WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO GET ANY OF THE SHORT OF THE, THE CITY INCENTIVES. SO, OF COURSE, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT EVENTS AND OTHER USES. SO SOME OF THE SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE ALSO BEING ADVERTISED AS, HEY, COME AND RENT IT OUT FOR THE WEEKEND AND HAVE YOUR PARTY, HAVE YOUR WEDDING, HAVE YOUR BIG SHINDIG, UM, WHICH HAS CAUSED SOME PUBLIC NUISANCE THINGS. SO WE'RE CLARIFYING IN THE ORDINANCE, THAT'S NOT ALLOWED. IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ALREADY ALLOWED BY OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, BUT WE'RE BEING VERY STRONG ABOUT THAT. WE HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE WITH THAT. CURRENTLY. UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ONE IN PARTICULAR, UH, IN DISTRICT ONE, COUNCILMAN TRAVINO AND HIS STAFF. UH, WE'VE WORKING TOWARDS A SOLUTION, BUT WE'RE CLARIFYING THAT IN THE RULES AS WELL. WE THINK THAT THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. SO THOSE ARE THE KEY CHANGES. AND I THINK, UH, YOU, YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF THAT IN MAYBE A TABLE, UH, COMPARISON. SOME OF THE STUFF THAT DIDN'T CHANGE, OR SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT DIDN'T CHANGE, YOU'LL STILL HAVE TO RE, UH, REGISTER AND GET A PERMIT THROUGH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES THAT WILL BE TIED INTO VERIFICATION THAT YOU ARE ALREADY PAYING OR SET UP TO PAY YOUR HOT, THE, THE HOT OR THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX. UH, WE'VE WORKED WITH FINANCE, UH, STEP BY STEP, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S PART OF THE INITIAL CHECK. UM, SO YOU'LL HAVE TO HAVE YOUR LIST OF OWNERS, OF OPERATORS WITHIN 24 HOUR ADDRESS AND CONTACT INFORMATION. THE IDEA THERE BEING IS IF WE DO GET CALLS, PUBLIC NUISANCE TYPE CALLS, WHETHER YOU'RE A TYPE ONE OR TYPE TWO, WE WANT TO CONTACT SOMEONE DIRECTLY. AND MANY OF OUR SHORT TERM OPERATORS THAT WERE AT THE TABLE, THEY WANT TO KNOW IF SOME OF THEIR GUESTS ARE CAUSING A PROBLEM FOR THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, BECAUSE THEY, THEY DO WANT TO BE THE GOOD ACTORS, THE GOOD PROPERTY OWNERS. THEY WANT TO BE A GOOD PIECE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT A DETRIMENT, UH, FLOOR PLAN AND SITE PLAN. UM, AND THEN, UH, THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO ENSURE WE HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE ESCAPE ROUTES AND, AND, AND WHAT HAVE YOU. THE OTHER ONE THAT IS STILL ON THE TABLE, WHICH HAS TO BE SO EXISTING LEGAL, UH, TYPE TWO, UH, SHORT-TERM RENTALS WOULD BE GRANDFATHERED. THAT'S THE STATE, STATE NON-CONFORMING USE LAW. WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THAT LAST TIME. SO THAT'S STILL IN THE ORDINANCE. THAT'LL BE AN IMPORTANT PIECE TO CONSIDER AS WE GO FORTH. AND IF WE CHOOSE TO, UH, PASS THIS ORDINANCE, UH, THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE ORDINANCE. SO RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY REQUIREMENT FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS IS TO PAY THE HOT. THERE IS NO REGULATION OR PERMITTING, THEY'RE ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN NEIGHBORHOODS RIGHT NOW. UH, SO THE MORE THAT THE LONGER WE GO, THE MORE ARE COMING IN LEGAL AND THEREFORE WILL BE GRANDFATHERED. AND I HAVE THOSE NUMBERS, UH, IF YOU NEED THEM. UH, THERE ARE SOME INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS TO HELP PROTECT THE GUESTS. AND THEN OUR ENFORCEMENT, THIS IS TO ME, AS YOUR CODE OFFICIAL, YOUR BUILDING OFFICIAL. THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE FOR ME. SO THE, THE ONES THAT ARE THE PUBLIC NOOSES, THE ONES THAT ARE CAUSING THOSE PROBLEMS WITH THE REGISTRATION PROGRAM, IF YOU DO HAVE, UM, ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS AGAINST YOU, COMPLAINTS THAT ARE VERIFIED, WE STILL ARE KEEPING IN THAT. IF YOU HAVE TOO MANY OF THOSE, AND WE DEFINE WHAT THOSE ARE, IT'S BASEBALL SEASONS, THOSE THREE STRIKES, AND YOU'RE OUT THREE STRIKES, AND WE WILL REVOKE YOUR PERMIT. THREE STRIKES WITHIN SIX MONTHS. SO THREE CONFIRMED COMPLAINTS IN THE PUBLIC NUISANCE VARIETY. UH, THE, THE ORDINANCE WILL GIVE ME THE AUTHORITY AS THE CODE OFFICIAL TO REVOKE THAT PERMIT, AND THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO GET IT BACK FOR AT LEAST A YEAR. UH, SO WE THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ONE TO KEEP THE QUOTE UNQUOTE BAD ACTORS OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT STILL GIVE PEOPLE A, A CHANCE TO CLEAN UP IF THERE'S A SINGLE VIOLATION AND WORK WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS. SO HOW WOULD WE IMPLEMENT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE? IT'S REAL IMPORTANT. WE HAD A LOT OF FEEDBACK, FOLKS FROM THE TASK FORCE, THE COMMUNITY FROM YOU ALL ABOUT, UH, MAKING SURE IT'S A STREAMLINED PROCESS. SO WE RECOMMEND PASSING THIS ORDINANCE. WE ALSO RECOMMEND THAT WHENEVER WE PASS IT AND WE HAVE ACTION ON IT, WE PASS IT IMMEDIATELY SO IT GOES INTO EFFECT. BUT THERE WILL BE A GRACE PERIOD TO REGISTER. AND WHAT THAT'LL DO IS IT'LL GIVE PEOPLE 90 TO A HUNDRED DAYS, ABOUT THREE MONTHS TO GET ALL THEIR STUFF TOGETHER. UH, IT WILL GIVE, UH, OUR IT STAFF OUR FINANCING STAFF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO FINISH UP OUR PROCEDURES AND GETTING ALL THAT STREAMLINED SO THAT THEY CAN COME IN, GET THEIR PERMITS. BUT THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE ORDINANCE WILL BE THE DAY IT'S PASSED, OR 10 DAYS LATER, UH, WHICHEVER HAPPENS THROUGH NORMAL PROCEDURES, BECAUSE THAT WILL LOCK IN THE GRANDFATHERING DATE. WE DON'T THINK IT'S [00:20:01] APPROPRIATE TO WAIT THREE MONTHS AND STILL ALLOW PEOPLE TO GET, CONTINUE A GRANDFATHER, AND HAVE THAT NUMBER GROW. UH, THAT WAS A COMMON, UH, ITEM DISCUSSED, UH, FOR THE LAST 18 MONTHS. SO, UH, WE'LL HAVE A WEBSITE. UM, THE APPLICATION AND PAYMENT WILL BE THROUGH THAT WEBSITE. UH, IT'LL BE ACCESSIBLE FROM, UH, YOUR MOBILE DEVICE. AND THE KEY THERE IS VERY QUICKLY, WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING UP FOR OUR, UH, SHORT-TERM RENTAL OWNERS AND OPERATORS. AND I WILL TELL YOU THE LONG-TERM SOLUTION HERE IS MANY OF YOU HAVE HEARD US TALK ABOUT THE, THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT'S, LONG-TERM PERMITTING SYSTEM, UH, WHICH IS CALLED BUILD SA. WE DID GO LIVE WITH PHASE ONE OF THAT ON MONDAY, AND IT'S GOING WELL. PHASE TWO WILL INCLUDE THAT COMPONENT DIRECTLY INTO THE PERMITTING SYSTEM. UH, THE, THE COMPANY THAT ACTUALLY WE, WE, WE BOUGHT THE SOFTWARE ALREADY HAS AN ELEMENT, UH, IN THEIR SYSTEM FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS. I'LL FINISH UP WITH A, JUST A QUICK DISCUSSION AGAIN ON THE HOT. UH, THE HOT IS APPLICABLE. THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX IS APPLICABLE TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS. WE KNEW THAT, UH, WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROJECT, UH, PROCESS. IT WAS VERY CLEAR, UH, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT COLLECTS IT FOR THE CITY AND COUNTY. UM, NONE OF THIS HAS REALLY CHANGED SINCE OUR LAST TIME. AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO TROY AND, AND HIS TEAM. UH, BUT IT WILL BE, UH, SOMETHING, UH, THAT WE, WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO COLLECT. IT'LL BE TIED INTO THIS REGISTRATION. THIS WILL HELP US, I THINK, IMPROVE OUR COLLECTIONS OF THESE IDENTIFYING WHERE THEY ARE. FINANCE HAS ALREADY RELEASED AN R F P TO GET A THIRD PARTY TO HELP THEM FIND THOSE SHORT-TERM RENTALS THAT MAYBE AREN'T PAYING THEIR, THEIR HOT TAX RIGHT NOW. AND WE KNOW THERE'S MANY OF THEM. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT LAST TIME. UM, BUT THEY'LL HAVE, UH, UH, THE ABILITY TO IDENTIFY THEM AND HELP US ENFORCE, UH, HAVE MAYBE AN ONLINE OPTION TO PAY AND SOME OTHER, UH, BELLS AND WHISTLES, UH, TO HELP WITH THAT. SO, UM, AND IF YOU REMEMBER, UH, I JUST PUT THIS SLIDE UP HERE, UH, FINANCE DID, UH, ADD SOME, UH, MONEY IN THEIR BUDGET TO, UH, TO PAY FOR THAT CONTRACT FOR THIS YEAR, AS WELL AS SOME COMPLIANCE RESOLUTION OFFICERS, UH, UNDER THEIR CHARGE TO HELP WITH THIS. BECAUSE REMEMBER, IF WE DO NOT CHOOSE TO DO A REGISTRATION ORDINANCE ST ARE STILL REQUIRED TO PAY THE HOT TAX, AND WE KNOW MANY OF THEM ARE NOT. SO WE STILL HAVE TO GO OUT AND, UH, FIND THOSE THAT AREN'T AND GET THEM INTO COMPLIANCE WITH EVEN JUST THE TAX, UH, TAXING. SO I'LL WRAP IT UP. WE'LL JUST SAY THAT OUR RECOMMEND, UH, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, RECOMMENDATION IS TO MOVE FORWARD THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, THE FULL, UH, A SESSION FOR ADOPTION. UH, CERTAINLY, AS YOU CAN TELL, A LOT OF THE FOLKS IN THE ROOM WERE PART OF THOSE DOZENS OF MEETINGS, UH, THAT, THAT THE MI GOING THROUGH THE MINUTIAE OF THE LANGUAGE OF A PROPOSED ORDINANCE AND DEBATING A VERY PHILOSOPHICAL DEBATE AS TO WHAT WE COULD AND SHOULD DO. SO THANK YOU TO ALL OF THEM THAT HAVE BROUGHT, UM, THEIR EXPERTISE AND EXPERIENCE TO THE TABLE. THEY'RE HERE, THEY'RE STILL INTERESTED, AND I KNOW WHATEVER WE DO, THEY'LL BE STILL ENGAGED. SO THANK YOU TO ALL OF THEM. AND, UH, WITH THAT, I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. GREAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MIKE, UH, FOR THE PRESENTATION. UM, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I DID WANNA MAKE A FEW STATEMENTS. I THINK THAT, UM, IT CAUGHT A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS, NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS OFF GUARD WHEN THE STATE WEIGHED INTO, UM, THE ISSUE OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN SUCH A BLUNT INSTRUMENT KIND OF WAY, AND PREEMPTED ANY REGULATION THAT ESSENTIALLY WOULD PROTECT THE INTERESTS OF NEIGHBORHOODS. UM, SO AS IT STANDS NOW TODAY, THERE'S REALLY NOTHING, THERE'S NO VOICE FOR NEIGHBORHOODS AT THE TABLE WHEN IT COMES TO THE NEW INDUSTRY OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS. AND I JUST THINK YOU SPOKE TO THAT AS IT RELATES TO THE PHILOSOPHY OF A NEW INDUSTRY. UM, BUT I'M VERY, UH, PLEASED. UM, AND I, I WANT TO THANK FORMER COUNCILMAN MIKE GALLAGHER FOR HIS ENDURANCE AND PATIENCE, AS WE HAVE CONTINUED TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AT LEAST TWO YEARS NOW AFTER HE'S PROPOSED THIS, I THINK, UM, BUT ALSO TO RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT SAN ANTONIO, I THINK ONCE AGAIN, AND WE'RE GETTING USED TO THIS, HAS TAKEN ON A VERY DIFFICULT ISSUE, UH, WITH PEOPLE ON POLAR OPPOSITE SIDES, AND HAS, I THINK, PROVIDED A TEMPLATE AND A PATHWAY FOR A BALANCED AND, AND REASONABLE REGULATORY, UH, SYSTEM THAT GETS AS CLOSE TO A WIN-WIN AS POSSIBLE. AND IN PARTICULAR, I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN TREVINO, UH, WHO PERHAPS HAS HIS FINGERPRINTS ALL OVER THIS IDEA THAT WE CAN HAVE A TEMPLATE THAT MAYBE THE STATE COULD FOLLOW. I MEAN, IT'S THE SAME, UM, A CAUTIOUS OPTIMISM WE HAD WHEN WE WENT INTO THE OP UBER LYFT, UH, DEBATE FOR THE SECOND TIME. SO, THANK YOU COUNCILMAN FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE ON THIS. UH, I WANNA RECOGNIZE ALL THE FOLKS IN THE ROOM THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, WORKING HARD TO SEE IF THERE WAS A COMPROMISE TO BE FOUND. UH, MANY OF THE REPRESENTATIVES ARE HERE, TECH BLOCK IS HERE. I KNOW WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM EXA SABOR, THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION, AND WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS WHO ARE HERE AS WELL. UM, MY ONLY CRITICISM IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF, IF THEN STATEMENTS IN THIS REGULATION, UM, A LOT OF SCENARIOS THAT WILL BE POTENTIALLY CONFUSING FOR PEOPLE, UH, [00:25:01] TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHERE THEY FALL ON THE DENSITY LIMITS. UM, WE'LL PROBABLY NEED A FLOW CHART OF SOME KIND TO EXPLAIN IT TO AS WE KIND OF ROLL IT OUT TO NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE FOR ME IS, IS THIS, WE WANT TO BE ENCOURAGING OF NEW INDUSTRIES, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY, UM, WHEN THEY ARE MEETING A MARKET DEMAND. BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT WE REPRESENT PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE BOUGHT INTO NEIGHBORHOODS, AND WE WANT TO PROTECT THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE. AND THIS IS A, A VERY DIFFICULT BALANCE THAT I THINK HAS BEEN STRUCK WITH, UH, THIS PARTICULAR REGULATION WHERE ONE AND NO PROTECT, NO PROTECTION CURRENTLY EXISTS, UH, FOR NEIGHBORHOODS. SO, UH, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO'S BEEN INVOLVED. UH, IT HAS MY FULL THROATED ENDORSEMENT. UM, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COLLECTING HOT TAX, AND WE ARE FINDING THE FOLKS THAT, THAT ARE NOT REALLY IDENTIFYING THEMSELVES, UH, SO THEY CAN DO SO IN, IN A, A LEGAL AND FRIENDLY MANNER. UH, BUT THANK YOU AGAIN, MIKE, UH, FOR THE PRESENTATION. I LOOK FORWARD TO PASSING THIS, UM, I THINK NEXT WEEK. SO, COUNCILMAN TRAVINO, THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND CERTAINLY APPRECIATE, UH, YOUR WORK AND ENDORSEMENT OF THIS PLAN. UH, ONE OF SPECIFICALLY THANK YOUR CHIEF OF STAFF TRAY FOR WORKING WITH CHRISSY MCCAIN ON REALLY GETTING DOWN TO SOME OF THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THIS. UH, THAT'S, UH, UH, AS, AS YOU POINTED OUT, IT, IT CAN BE VERY COMPLEX, BUT, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS AT THE HEART OF WHO WE ARE AS A COMMUNITY, AND, AND WE, WE FEEL THAT, UH, THIS IS A GOOD STEP FORWARD. UH, I WANNA THANK ALL THE FOLKS THAT ARE INVOLVED, AND YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A BIG CROWD HERE TODAY, UH, MANY STAKEHOLDERS THAT HAVE BEEN A PART OF THAT, UH, IN CONTRIBUTING TO A THOUGHTFUL PROCESS, A, A A WAY FORWARD. AND IF, IF WE NEED TO ADJUST, WE CAN. SO I, I WANT TO MENTION THAT I THINK, UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAD BEEN MENTIONING ALL ALONG, MIKE, IS THAT THIS, THIS COULD BE SOMETHING THAT, THAT, UH, IF WE STILL NEED TO LEARN MORE ABOUT, UH, SOME OF THE, THE, THE ADJUSTMENTS WE NEED TO MAKE IN THIS ORDINANCE THAT WE CAN, UH, ONE EXAMPLE, UH, YOU AND I WORKED WITH, UH, UH, AND MY STAFF JED MAUS ON A, A SITUATION WHERE IT WAS REALLY KIND OF DIFFICULT BECAUSE, UH, A, A, UH, AN AIRBNB WAS BEING USED ESSENTIALLY AS A PARTY HOUSE. AND, UH, WE HAD TO TRY TO NAVIGATE THROUGH THAT AND CREATE SOME KIND OF, UH, PLAN AND STEP FORWARD. I, I WANT TO, I WANNA THANK THE, THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY THOUGH, BECAUSE WE DID MEET AND, UH, IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT. WE ALL HAVE A PLAN, AS YOU POINTED OUT. I THINK IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT'S A GOOD THING WHEN, WHEN PEOPLE ARE ACTING LIKE GOOD NEIGHBORS, AND WE HAVE MANY OF THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN BEING VERY GOOD NEIGHBORS. AND, UH, I, I WANT TO THANK THE COOPERATION OF, OF THAT PARTICULAR, UH, HOMEOWNER BECAUSE, UH, THEY, THEY HAVE EVERY INTENTION OF BEING GOOD NEIGHBORS. AND SO, IN NO WAY ARE WE SAYING WITH THIS ORDINANCE THAT, THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT TRYING TO, TO BE A PART OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD OR BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. UH, WE JUST KNOW THAT WE NEED SOME, SOME KIND OF REGULATION TO, TO ALLOW US, ALLOW THIS TO EXIST, TO, TO BE IN, IN, IN OUR CITY. AND, UH, SO I JUST WANNA THANK YOU AS WELL FOR, FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND HARD WORK ON THIS. I THINK THAT THIS IS, IS TAKING A LOOK AT, AT, AT A, AT AN ISSUE, BLOCK BY BLOCK. AND, UM, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS IN, IN, IN OUR DISTRICT THAT WOULD TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, EVERY BLOCK MATTERS. THEIR BLOCK IS, IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF HOW THEY FEEL. IT, IT, IT MAKES, MAKES THEM FEEL RIGHT AT HOME. AND SO, UM, I TOO WANT TO FULLY ENDORSE, UH, MOVING FORWARD ON THIS PLAN. AND, UH, AGAIN, WANNA THANK CHRISSY FOR ALL HER HARD WORK IN THE OFFICE, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN FIND SOME KIND OF A COMPROMISE TO, TO GET US MOVING FORWARD ON THIS. THANKS, MIKE. THANKS, MAYOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN TREO, COUNCILMAN COURAGE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, I FEEL LIKE I'M GONNA BE A VOICE IN A WILDERNESS, BUT, UH, I'VE BEEN THAT WAY BEFORE. WELCOME, WELCOME. THANK YOU, CLAYTON PERRY. UH, I AM, I AM, UH, I HAVE A GREAT AMOUNT OF OPPOSITION TO THE PART OF THIS ORDINANCE THAT DEALS WITH TYPE TWO SHORT TERM RENTALS. YOU KNOW, I, I BELIEVE IN THE SHARING ECONOMY, AND IF PEOPLE WANT TO TAKE THEIR CARS AND DRIVE PEOPLE AROUND WITH LYFT AND UBER, THAT'S, THAT'S A SETTLED DEAL. UH, AND I HEARD THE CITY MANAGER CALL US HOME SHARING, BUT TYPE TWO RENTALS ARE NOT ANYONE'S HOME. THEY MAY BE A, A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING, BUT THAT'S NOT SHARING A HOME IF YOU DON'T LIVE THERE, IN MY OPINION IS THAT TYPE TWO RENTALS ARE NOTHING MORE THAN HOTELS BEING PUT INTO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. AND, UH, IT'S BEING DONE NOT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. [00:30:01] IT'S BEING DONE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE INDIVIDUAL AS A COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE. SIMPLE AS THAT. I'VE PASSED OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS TO, UH, MY FELLOW COUNCIL PEOPLE, THE MAYOR, THE CITY MANAGER. I WANT TO READ THAT. IT SAYS OUR SHORT TERM VACATION RENOLDS CONTRIBUTING TO THE HOUSING CRISIS, THE RISE IN GROWTH OF SHORT-TERM RENTAL PLATFORMS SUCH AS AIRBNB, HOMEAWAY, FLIPKEY HAS CREATED PLENTY OF DEBATE AMONGST LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, THE HOTEL INDUSTRY, THE REAL ESTATE LOBBY, HOUSING ACTIVISTS AND LOCAL RESIDENTS ABOUT THE IMPACT OF SUCH RENTALS ON THE AVAILABILITY AND AFFORDABILITY OF LONG-TERM RENTAL HOUSING. ACCORDING TO RECENT ARTICLE IN THE HARVARD LAW REVIEW, UH, LAW AND POLICY REVIEW, THE THEORY GOES AS FOLLOWS, SHORT-TERM RENTALS REDUCES THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SUPPLY BY DISTORTING THE HOUSING MARKET IN TWO INTERCONNECTED MECHANISMS. THE FIRST SUCH MECHANISM IS ONE OF SIMPLE CONVERSION. ANY HOUSING UNIT THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY OCCUPIED BY A CITY RESIDENT IS NOW LISTED ON AIRBNB YEAR ROUND. AND IT IS A UNIT THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE RENTAL MARKET AND HAS ESSENTIALLY BEEN ADDED TO THE COMMUNITY SUPPLY OF HOTEL ROOMS. THIS LEADS TO A REAL BUT LIKELY MILD INCREASE IN RENTS. UH, AND THE EFFECT IS CONCENTRATED IN AFFLUENT OR GENTRIFYING NEIGHBORHOODS ALONG THE COMMUNITY. CENTRAL CORE, MORE DISCONCERTINGLY CONVERSION REDUCES THE COMMUNITY'S ALREADY LIMITED SUPPLY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THE SECOND MEM, UH, MECHANISM IS THE HOTEL SO LONG AS A PRICE OF A HOTEL ROOM WHILE EARNING A SUBS, EXCUSE ME, SO LONG AS A PROPERTY OWNER OR LEASE HOLDER CAN RENT OUT A ROOM ON AIRBNB FOR CHEAPER THAN THE PRICE OF A HOTEL ROOM, WHILE EARNING A SUBSTANTIAL PREMIUM OVER THE RESIDENTIAL MARKET, OR RENT CONTROLLED RENT, THERE IS AN OVERPOWERING INCENTIVE TO LIST EACH UNIT IN THE BUILDING ON AIRBNB RATHER THAN TO RENT TO LOCAL RESIDENTS. THEREBY CREATING COTTAGE HOTELS. THIS DECREASES THE SUPPLY OF HOUSING AND SPURS DISPLACEMENT, GENTRIFICATION, AND SEGREGATION. NOW, WHILE STILL A THEORY, MORE AND MORE EVIDENCE IS SUGGESTING THAT THESE EFFECTS ARE IN FACT REAL. AS AN EXAMPLE, IN 2016, A STUDY FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MASSACHUSETTS CONCLUDED THAT IN BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS, HOME SHARING IS INCREASING RENTS BY DECREASING THE SUPPLY OF UNITS AVAILABLE TO POTENTIAL RESIDENTS. AND THAT A ONE STANDARD DEVIATION INCREASE IN AIRBNB LISTINGS RELATIVE TO THE NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS AND A CENSUS TRACK IS ASSOCIATED WITH AN INCREASE OF ASKING RENTS. IT SAYS FOUR TENTHS OF A PERCENT FOR THOSE CENSUS TRACKS IN THE HIGHEST DECILE OF AIRBNB LISTINGS RELATIVE TO TOTAL HOUSING UNITS. THIS INCREASE IS ASKING RENTS RANGE FROM 1.3% TO 3.1% INCREASE, WHICH EQUATES AT THE CITY, UM, OF BOSTON'S MONTHLY, MEANING ASKING RENT, UH, TO AN INCREASE OF AS MUCH AS $93 A MONTH. NOW, GIVEN WE'RE NOT BOSTON, BUT THIS CONCLUSION IS CONSISTENT WITH OTHER INDEPENDENT STUDIES, WHICH, LIKE THIS RECENT PAPER PUBLISHED BY RESEARCHERS AT THE NATIONAL BUREAU OF ECONOMIC RESEARCH, THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA LA AND THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA CONCLUDED THAT ON A NATIONAL BASIS, A 10% INCREASE IN AIRBNB LEADS TO A 42 OR 0.42% INCREASE IN RENTS, AND A 0.76% INCREASE IN HOUSE PRICES. MOREOVER, WE FIND THAT THE EFFECT OF AIRBNB IN SMALLER AND IS SMALLER IN ZIP CODES WITH A LARGER SHARE OF OWNER OCCUPIERS, A RESULT CONSISTENT WITH ABSENT LANDLORDS TAKING THEIR HOMES AWAY FROM THE LONG-TERM RENTAL MARKET AND LISTING THEM ON AIRBNB. GIVEN THAT THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL INDUSTRY HAS GROWN BY 800% SINCE 2011, IT IS THEREFORE NOT HARD TO SEE WHY MANY PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS INDUSTRY'S IMPACT ON THE AFFORDABILITY AND THE AVAILABILITY OF LONG-TERM RENTAL HOUSING. JUST THINK ABOUT IF A 10% INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF SHORT-TERM RENTAL LISTINGS IS FOUND TO LEAD TO A 0.42% INCREASE IN RENTS, THE ACTUAL 800% INCREASE IN SHORT-TERM RENTAL LISTINGS SINCE 2011 WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR AS MUCH AS THE 33.6% RENT INCREASE OVER THE SAME PERIOD [00:35:01] OF TIME. FOR COMPARISON, THE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME IN THE UNITED STATES GREW ONLY 18% BETWEEN 2011 AND 2016. I WANNA POINT OUT THAT WE JUST WENT THROUGH A MAJOR HOUSING STUDY IN THIS CITY, AND WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A CRISIS IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I'LL BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, UH, ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT WAS BROUGHT OUT IN REPORT. ON PAGE 21, IT SAYS, DROP IN OWNERSHIP RATE. DURING A DECADE WHEN MORTGAGE RATES LEVELED OFF AT A HISTORIC 40 YEAR LOW, ONLY 12% OF ALL THE CITY'S NEW HOUSEHOLDS BETWEEN 2005 AND 2016 PURCHASED A HOME, WHEREAS 88% BECAME RENTERS FOR SAN ANTONIO. THAT MEANS A LOSS OF INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITY IN THE STABILITY AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY. AS A RESULT, THE OVERALL HOME OWNERSHIP RATE FELL FROM 61 TO 54%. WE'RE SEEING A DECLINE IN HOME OWNERSHIP. THESE RENTALS ARE TAKING HOMES THAT PEOPLE MAY WANNA BUY AND LIVE IN AS A WORKING FAMILY OR TAKING HOMES THAT PEOPLE MAY WANNA RENT AT A, AT THE COST OF A WORKING FAMILY SIMPLY OFF THE MARKETPLACE IN MANY PLACES IN SAN ANTONIO. I'LL POINT OUT ONE OTHER POINT IN OUR, UH, ACTION PLAN FOR HOUSING ACTION. ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS TO PROTECT AND PROMOTE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND, UH, OUR PRIORITY IS TO ADDRESS THE IMPACT OF RISING TAXES ON HOUSING AFFORDABILITY. THESE HOMES THAT ARE BEING BOUGHT AND TURNED INTO HOTELS ARE RAISING THE VALUES OF THOSE PROPERTIES AND THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD PROPERTIES. SO WE SAY ONE ON A BLOCK. WELL, YOU MAY HAVE A BLOCK THAT HAS SEVEN OR EIGHT HOMES AND YOU CHANGE ONE, BUT THERE ARE FOUR SIDES TO EVERY BLOCK, AND THERE ARE OPPOSITE SIDES OF THE STREET ON EVERY BLOCK. AND WE MAY BE TALKING ABOUT FOUR HOUSES ON A BLOCK, OR EIGHT HOUSES WITHIN TWO BLOCKS FACING, UH, FACING EACH OTHER. SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND SAYING, OH, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT IT DOES TO AFFECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. IT'S AFFECTING THEM GREATLY. I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND POINT OUT ONE OTHER THING THAT I'VE GIVEN YOU. IT'S CALLED WHY REGULATE HOME SHARING AND SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. THERE ARE MANY GOOD REASONS WHY LOCAL GOVERNMENT LEADERS ARE FOCUSED ON FINDING WAYS TO MANAGE THE RAPID GROWTH OF HOME SHARING AND SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROPERTIES IN THEIR COMMUNITIES. TO NAME A FEW. NUMBER ONE, INCREASED TOURIST TRAFFIC FROM SHORT TERM RENTERS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO SLOWLY TRANSFORM PEACEFUL RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES INTO COMMUNITIES OF TRANSIENTS WHERE PEOPLE ARE LESS INTERESTED IN INVESTING IN ONE ANOTHER'S LIVES, BE IT IN THE FORM OF INFORMAL FRIEND GROUPS OR CHURCH OR SCHOOL OR COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS, OR DOING BUSINESS WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES. NUMBER TWO, SHORT-TERM RENTERS MAY NOT ALWAYS KNOW OR FOLLOW LOCAL RULES RESULTING IN PUBLIC SAFETY RISKS, NOISE ISSUES, TRASH PARKING PROBLEMS FOR NEARBY RESIDENTS. NUMBER THREE, SO-CALLED PARTY HOUSES, WHICH COUNCILMAN TRAVINO ALREADY ALLUDED TO. HOMES THAT ARE CONTINUOUSLY RENTED TO LARGE GROUPS OF PEOPLE WITH THE INTENT TO PARTY CAN SEVERELY IMPACT NEIGHBORS AND DRIVE DOWN NEARBY HOME VALUES. NUMBER FOUR, CONVERSION OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS INTO SHORT-TERM RENTALS CAN RESULT IN LESS AVAILABILITY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS AND HIGHER RENTS FOR LONG-TERM RENTERS IN THE COMMUNITY. NUMBER FIVE, LOCAL SERVICE JOBS CAN BE JEOPARDIZED AS UNFAIR COMPETITION FROM UNREGULATED, UNTAXED SHORT-TERM RENTALS, WHICH REDUCES DEMAND FOR LOCAL BED AND BREAKFAST HOTELS AND MOTELS. I MIGHT INTERJECT RIGHT HERE AND ASK A QUESTION. DO WE KNOW HOW MANY SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE ALREADY, UH, LISTED WITH THE CITY? HAVE IDENTIFIED THEMSELVES? YES. IT'S JUST, UH, JUST UNDER 400 AND HOW MANY DO WE PROJECT THERE MAY BE OUT THERE. WE'VE SEEN ESTIMATES, UH, AND WE'VE, WE'VE EVEN GONE ONLINE ON DIFFERENT WEEKENDS, 1500 TO 2000 APPROXIMATELY. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE GENERALLY ACCEPTED WHAT WE HEAR ABOUT OUT THERE. AND IF WE SET UP THIS POLICY, IT SIMPLY WILL EASILY ENABLE MANY, MANY MORE INVESTORS TO BUY MANY MORE HOMES IN MANY MORE NEIGHBORHOODS AND TURN THEM INTO HOTEL RENTALS. SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. IF THERE ARE SIMPLY 5,000 ROOMS, [00:40:01] AND IF YOU HAVE 2000 HOMES AND THEY HAVE TWO OR THREE BEDROOMS EACH RIGHT THERE, THERE'S 5,000 ROOMS AND THERE'S 365 DAYS IN A YEAR THAT COMES OUT TO 1.8 MILLION NIGHTS, ROOM NIGHTS, POTENTIALLY IN THE NEXT THREE TO FIVE YEARS IN SAN ANTONIO FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS. NOW, THAT'S A LOSS FOR HOTELS OF MAYBE 1.8 MILLION ROOMS BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE RATHER GO TO A NICE LITTLE HOME INSTEAD OF A HOTEL. USUALLY THEY'RE LESS EXPENSIVE, YOU FEEL A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE MAYBE, BUT THAT IS A BIG RISK TO THE HOTEL INDUSTRY AND TO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. I WANT TO CONTINUE. UM, TOWNS OFTEN LOSE OUT ON TAX REVENUE. NUMBER SIX, MOST OFTEN REFERRED TO AS TRANS TAX, HOTEL TAX BED AND TRANSPORTATION PRIVILEGE TAX. AS MOST SHORT-TERM RENTAL LANDLORDS FAIL TO REMIT THOSE TAXES EVEN WHEN REQUIRED BY LAW, WHICH WE'RE PERFECTLY EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW. NUMBER SEVEN, LACK OF PROPER REGULATION OR LIMITED ENFORCEMENT, AS YOUR OFFICE INDICATES IT HAS RIGHT NOW, UH, OF EXISTING ORDINANCES MAY CAUSE TENSION OR HOSTILITY BETWEEN SHORT-TERM LANDLORDS AND THEIR NEIGHBORS. AND FINALLY, THE EXISTENCE OF PSEUDO HOTELS AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, OFTEN IN VIOLATION OF LOCAL ZONING ORDINANCES, MAY LEAD TO DISILLUSIONMENT WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS WHO MAY BE PERCEIVED AS INEFFECTIVE IN PROTECTING THE INTERESTS OF LOCAL TAX PAYING CITIZENS. IN SHORT, WHILE IT MAY BE VERY LUCRATIVE FOR PRIVATE CITIZENS TO BECOME PART-TIME END KEEPERS, MOST OF THE EXTERNALITIES ARE BORN BY THE NEIGHBORS AND THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY WHO MAY NOT BE GETTING MUCH IN RETURN. THE BIG QUESTION, THEREFORE, IS WHETHER IT MAKES SENSE TO REGULATE SHORT-TERM RENTALS, BUT NOT WHETHER IT MAKES SENSE, BUT HOW TO DO IT TO PRESERVE MANY OF THE BENEFITS AS POSSIBLE WITHOUT TURNING NEIGHBORHOODS AND OTHER LOCAL COMMUNITY MEMBERS INTO INNOCENT BYSTANDERS. AND SO I WOULD CONTEND THAT I, AND PERSONALLY I FEEL THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH A FAMILY THAT OWNS A HOME, THAT HAS A ROOM THAT THEY WANNA RENT OUT. MAYBE THEY'RE RETIRED, THEIR CHILDREN HAVE GROWN AND MOVED AWAY. MAYBE THEY'VE LIVED IN THAT HOME FOR 20 OR 30 YEARS, AND THEY WANT TO CONTINUE LIVING IN THAT HOME 'CAUSE THEY'RE PART OF THAT COMMUNITY. THEY GO TO THOSE CHURCHES, THEIR CHILDREN WENT TO THOSE SCHOOLS, THEY SUPPORT THOSE LOCAL BUSINESSES, THEY KNOW THEIR NEIGHBORS. AND WHEN THAT NEIGHBOR GOES OUT OF TOWN, THEY'LL COME TO ME AND THEY'LL SAY, WILL YOU WATCH MY HOUSE? FOR ME, THOSE ARE THE IMPORTANT FACTORS THAT ARE ADVERSELY AFFECTED AS WE CONTINUE TO SEE MORE AND MORE NON-OWNER OCCUPIED SHORT-TERM RENTALS PROLIFERATE ACROSS THE CITY, PARTICULARLY RIGHT NOW IT'S IN THE DOWNTOWN AREAS, BUT IT'S REALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, EVERYWHERE IN OUR CITY. NOW, I, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T MIND PEOPLE RENTING OUT A ROOM IN THEIR HOME BECAUSE THEY'RE PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SHORT TERM RENTALS IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT. AS A MATTER OF FACT, HERE IN TEXAS, THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE HAS OUTLAWED FOR YEARS SHORT-TERM RENTALS. FOR MANY YEARS THEY DIDN'T EVEN THINK THEY NEEDED TO ENFORCE THAT. BUT NOW THEY ARE THE CITY OF NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE ALLOW SHORT-TERM RENTALS. TYPE TWO RENTALS HAVE BEEN PHASED OUT. 2020, YOU CAN NO LONGER GET A LICENSE IN NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE FOR A TYPE TWO RENTAL. NOW, I KNOW THE STATE SUPREME COURT HAS ISSUED SOME JUDGMENT ON, ON RENTAL PROPERTIES LIKE THIS, BUT THEIR JUDGMENT WAS IN A TIMBERWOOD PARK SITUATION WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAD SPECIFIC WORDING, UH, IN THEIR DEEDED RESTRICTIONS THAT DIDN'T SEEM TO MEET THE COURT'S INTERPRETATION OF RESIDENTS. THAT WAS NOT A BLANKET RULING FOR EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD. IF THEY CHANGE THE WORDING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY CAN PROTECT THEMSELVES. IT'S NOT A BLANKET RULING TELLING CITIES. YOU CANNOT PUT UP RESTRICTIONS ON THESE, INCLUDING COMPLETE RESTRICTIONS ON TYPE TWO. AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, I THINK I'M STICKING UP FOR THE PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY. 'CAUSE I'VE ASKED THEM ABOUT THIS. I'VE ASKED PEOPLE IN DISTRICT NINE NUMEROUS TIMES WHAT THEY THINK OF THIS. THEY ARE, THEY ARE OPPOSED. I'VE HAD PEOPLE FROM COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE AND COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO CALL ME AND SAY THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THESE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO I THINK ALL OF US NEED TO RECONSIDER BEFORE WE FINALIZE, UH, THIS ORDINANCE. AND MAYOR, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE TRYING TO RESOLVE A VERY DIFFICULT [00:45:01] SITUATION, BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE RESOLUTION THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO US TODAY FAIRLY TREATS THE CITIZENS OF SAN ANTONIO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. COURAGE. COUNCILMAN PAL. THANK YOU. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE I, I, I QUITE HONESTLY, I DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS. UH, IN, IN BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, RENTERS AND PEOPLE WHO, UH, ARE, YOU KNOW, AND LANDLORDS AND PEOPLE WHO INVEST PROPERTIES THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN I RAN FOR OFFICE, NOBODY IN MY DISTRICT EVER SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, COUNCILMAN, REALLY, WE WANT YOU TO TAKE UP THIS ISSUE OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 'CAUSE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO US. AND I THINK IT'S BECAUSE IN MY DISTRICT WE GOT A LOT OF, UM, DEEDED RESTRICTED PROPERTIES AND THOSE DEEDED RESTRICTED PROPERTIES, ALMOST EVERY SINGLE ONE OF 'EM, UH, HAVE THESE COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS THAT SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR HOME IS LIMITED TO JUST SINGLE FAMILY USE. USING IT OUTSIDE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY USE WILL SUBJECT YOU TO THE H O A COMING DOWN HARD ON YOU. AND FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH H O A LAW AND H O A LAW, THEY REFER TO HOAS AS REGIMES. AND SOME OF THEM RULE WITH IRON FISTS AND OTHER ONES ARE MORE, UH, SLEEPY, COOL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY ENFORCE THEIR RULES, BUT IT'S STILL THEIR RULES AND IT WAS STILL THEIR RIGHT TO ENFORCE. AND SO, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I NEVER REALLY WORRIED TOO MUCH ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF MY NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT PROTECTION AND THEN THIS TIMBERWOOD PARK DECISION CAME OUT. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE WONDERING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES, GO READ IT. IT IS ONE OF THE MOST INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST DECISIONS YOU'LL EVER READ. AND IT'S DANGEROUS FOR A LAWYER TO, YOU KNOW, ACCUSE THE SUPREME COURT OF DISHONESTY. BUT IN THIS INSTANCE, I CANNOT INTERPRET THAT DECISION AS BEING ANYTHING OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, JUST HUGE LEAPS OF LOGIC. UM, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE DECISION, IT LITERALLY SAYS, HEY, WE READ THE WORD SINGLE FAMILY USE IN PLAIN ENGLISH. AND TO US RENTING OUT YOUR HOME IN AN AIRBNB WAY DOES NOT CONFLICT WITH THE WORDS SINGLE FAMILY USE. I I DON'T KNOW HOW ANY PERSON WHO WENT TO SCHOOL WHERE THEY LEARNED TO READ CAN POSSIBLY INTERPRET, YOU KNOW, IT THAT WAY. UM, BUT THAT'S THE LAW. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE STUCK WITH THIS REALLY TERRIBLE DECISION. AND WHAT THE DECISION BASICALLY DID WAS IT TOOK AWAY HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION'S RIGHTS TO ENFORCE THEIR OWN RULES, FORCING HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS NOW TO GO BACK AND AMEND THEIR RULES, WHICH IS A REALLY EXPENSIVE THING. UM, AND GO HIRE A LAWYER. I MEAN, THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA WIN ON THIS ONE IS LAWYERS. UM, YOU KNOW, AND SO NOW IT'S BECOME A PROBLEM IN DISTRICT EIGHT, AND NOW I'M SEEING MORE AND MORE FOLKS EXPRESSING ANXIETY. BUT WHAT ABOUT OUR RULES AND WHAT ABOUT OUR RULES? AND SO MY QUESTION FOR YOU, MIKE, IS, IS IT POSSIBLE IN THIS APPLICATION THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO FILL OUT IN ORDER TO GET THEIR PERMITS AND ALL THAT, UM, TO INCLUDE LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GRANTING YOU THIS APPLICATION, BUT JUST HEADS UP, RIGHT? YOU MAY BE SUBJECTED TO H O A RULES. SO YOU KNOW, YOUR FAIR WARNING, IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN DO? YES, ABSOLUTELY. SO THAT ACTUALLY CAME OUT THROUGH THE PROCESS EVEN BEFORE THE TIMBERWOOD PARK. SO WE DID ADD LANGUAGE TO THE ORDINANCE THAT SAYS THAT OUR APPLICATION FOR THE PERMIT WILL INCLUDE THAT LANGUAGE. IT SAYS, GIVE ME ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEED, WHETHER IT'S ONLINE OR THROUGH A DEVICE, YOU'LL CERTIFY, BUT YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE COULD BE SOME PRIVATE CONTRACT, H O A DEEDS AND COVENANTS THAT, UH, MY, MY PERMIT, THE CITY'S PERMIT WILL NOT SUPERSEDE. SO, UH, THAT IS IN THE PROJECTED ORDINANCE. UM, BECAUSE WE THINK IT'S, WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR S T R OWNERS AND OPERATORS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY MAY BE SOME APPLICABLE RULES THAT THEY ALSO HAVE TO COMPLY WITH. SO WE WANT TO BE VERY UPFRONT WITH THAT. UH, I THINK THAT CAME OUT THROUGH SOME OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION PROCESS. UH, ONE OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION MEMBERS BROUGHT THAT UP, BUT WE THOUGHT IT WAS A REALLY GOOD, UH, A GOOD ADD-ON TO THE ORDINANCE. SO THAT'S IN THERE AND, UH, WE FULLY SUPPORT THAT. SO ADDING TO THAT, LET'S, LET'S ASSUME WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING PERMITS AND OTHER TOPICS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH SHORT TERM. DO WE ALSO WARN PEOPLE IN THOSE APPLICATIONS, HEY, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY BE, WE MAY BE GIVING YOU PERMISSION TO DO THIS, BUT AGAIN, YOU HAVE H O A RULES THAT MAY APPLY, THAT MAY PROHIBIT YOU FROM DOING WHAT YOU'VE APPLIED FOR. YES, WE DO WARN THEM. WE DO. AND IT, AND ACTUALLY IT'S JUST NOT H O A RULES EITHER, RIGHT? IT'S ANY OTHER STATE LAWS OR ANYTHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY MAY BE APPLICABLE AS WELL, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE VERY COGNIZANT OF THEIR, THERE ARE SOME DEEDED RESTRICTIONS THAT THE CITY CANNOT ENFORCE THEIR, THEIR RULES FOR THAT COMMUNITY. UH, BUT WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE ON, UH, ON ALERT THAT THEY HAVE TO DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE, UH, AND BE, UH, BE LOOKING FOR THOSE AS WELL AND IN COMPLIANCE WITH THOSE. YEAH. SO I PHILOSOPHICALLY, I APPROACHED THIS FROM A, GOD, I HATE, I HATE SAYING THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, ANNE RAND AND I SORT OF AGREE ON THIS ONE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, TELLING PEOPLE WHAT TO DO WITH HER PRIVATE PROPERTY, UM, AND TO WHOM YOU SHOULD AND SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO RENT OUT, YOU KNOW, UM, IS KIND [00:50:01] OF A VIOLATION OF EVERYTHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE AMERICAN SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, IS ALL ABOUT, RIGHT? AND, UM, I CAN SEE WHY SOME PEOPLE ARE VERY OFFENDED, YOU KNOW, AT THE IDEA OF GOVERNMENT GETTING IN THE WAY OF THEIR INVESTMENT, UM, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ILLEGAL. AND, UM, I'M SENSITIVE TO ALSO WHAT, WHAT COUNCILMAN, UM, COURAGE JUST BROUGHT UP. THIS IS GOOD RESEARCH AND THANK YOU FOR, FOR DOING THAT. UM, BUT I'M NOT GONNA LET THE, WHAT IS IT? I'M, I'M NOT GONNA LET PERFECTION BE THE ENEMY OF, OF THE GOOD, RIGHT? AND THERE'S, I DON'T THINK WE'RE EVER GONNA REACH A POINT WHERE, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE'S GONNA LOOK AT WHATEVER PROPOSED ORDINANCE WE'VE GOT AND SAY, I'M WITH YOU ON THAT ONE, RIGHT? I THINK THAT THE BEST WE CAN HOPE FOR IS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY WALKS AWAY A LITTLE UNHAPPY, UH, BECAUSE EVERYBODY SACRIFICES A LITTLE BIT HERE. UM, AND I'M CONCERNED, MAYOR, I AM YOUR, YOUR COMMISSION ON HOUSING AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND THE STATUS OF HOUSING HERE IN SAN ANTONIO IS ALARMING, UH, ALARMED US BECAUSE OF THIS VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT REPORT. BUT MY WALKAWAY FROM THAT, WHEN VIEWED THROUGH THE LENS OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS, IS THAT RIGHT NOW NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE NO PROTECTION, RIGHT? QUITE LITERALLY, SOMEBODY COULD BUILD OUT A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NEXT TO FIESTA, TEXAS AND ONLY, YOU KNOW, AND MARKET IT AS, HEY, GREAT PLACE TO ALSO OWN A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, RIGHT? AND THERE'D BE NO PROTECTION WHATSOEVER. AT THE VERY LEAST, THIS PROVIDES PEOPLE SOME PROTECTION, NOT PERFECT, BUT SOME, RIGHT? AND I, UM, I'VE BEEN CONSULTING WITH OUR FRIENDS OVER AT THE BOARD OF REALTORS AND, UM, OTHER HOMEOWNERS AND H O A PRESIDENTS, AND FOR THE MOST PART, MOST OF 'EM UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, ALL OF US ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE BIG BOYS AND GIRLS AND LIVE WITH SOME KIND OF COMPROMISE SOLUTION. AND I KNOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR, WHAT, ALMOST TWO YEARS JUST TO GET TO THIS POINT, YEAR AND A HALF. THERE'S BEEN MANY ITERATIONS OF THIS THING, AND TRUE, YOU AND I ATTEND BOARDS, YOU KNOW, H O A MEETINGS AND PEOPLE ARE EITHER FURIOUS WITH US OR THEY'RE FURIOUS WITH US, RIGHT? UH, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, FOR THE MOST PART, WHEN YOU DO DO THAT AGAINST, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S THE RESULT OF HAVING TWO CAMPS THAT DISAGREE WITH EACH OTHER, HAVING BOTH PEOPLE WALK OUT A LITTLE BIT UNHAPPY IS USUALLY THE BEST RESULT. AND IN THIS INSTANCE, I, YOU KNOW, HAVING HEARD ALL THE VOICES AND REALLY UNDERSTANDING THE POLICY ISSUE AT, YOU KNOW, AT BEFORE US, I, TO BE HONEST, I DIDN'T WANT TO BE HERE, BUT THIS IS WHERE WE ARE. AND, UM, THIS IS GONNA BE A DIFFICULT CONVERSATION TO HAVE WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT, YOU KNOW, AFTER A WHILE, I THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE GONNA END UP SORT OF UNDERSTANDING WHY WE DID THIS RIGHT? AND WHAT THE RATIONALE WAS. AND I'LL TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, CHANGE THE WORD SHORT-TERM RENTAL ATTACK, YOU KNOW, UBER OR LYFT, RIGHT? AND THIS ROOM WOULD'VE BEEN FULL OF TAXI DRIVERS TELLING US THE EXACT SAME THING, WHICH IS, HEY, THIS TECH DISRUPTIVE TECHNOLOGY IS DISRUPTING US. AND THAT'S THE NATURE OF DISRUPTIVE TECHNOLOGY. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE A RESILIENT TOWN AND WE ADAPT, AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE RESILIENT AND, AND ADAPT. SO, WHICH IS WHY I'M GONNA SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN PALAIS. COUNCILMAN GRO. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MIKE, FOR THE PRESENTATION. UM, FIRST OF ALL, I DO WANNA THANK MY FORMER COLLEAGUE, COUNCIL MEMBER A GALLAGHER, UH, FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. EVEN THEN, I DON'T THINK IT, EVEN BACK TWO YEARS AGO WHEN HE FIRST BROUGHT IT FORWARD, I DIDN'T UNDER UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT AND IT WASN'T HAVING THAT GREAT OF AN IMPACT IN MY DISTRICT, AS I'VE SEEN NOW IN THE PAST TWO YEARS, THE GROWTH AND THE TURNOVER THAT HAS HAPPENED. I DO WANNA THANK YOU, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE FOR YOUR VERY THOUGHTFUL, UM, RESEARCH AND ALL OF THIS INFORMATION AND TAKING THE TIME TO READ IT TO US BECAUSE THIS IS A SERIOUS POLICY DISCUSSION HERE, AND THIS IS WHEN WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO THIS. SO, UM, I DON'T MIND TAKING THE TIME IN ORDER TO LISTEN AND TO HEAR AND TO HAVE THESE, UM, THESE QUESTIONS AND THESE THOUGHTS BROUGHT FORWARD, AND NOT JUST MOVING IT AND MOVING IT FORWARD, BUT REALLY HAVING THIS CONVERSATION. I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, UM, FOR, FOR YOU, MIKE, ON, YOU MENTIONED UNDER THE MULTIFAMILY, UM, UNDER THE MONTH, THE KEY CHANGES WITH THE MULTIFAMILY. YOU MENTIONED MF 33, AND, UM, I, I'D LIKE YOU TO JUST GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN WITH ME. NOT NECESSARILY THE 12.5%, BUT YOU MENTIONED MF 33 AND THE AMOUNT OF UNITS THAT ARE, THAT CANNOT, CAN OR CANNOT BE USED AS TYPE TWO. SURE. SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, AND I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER DISCUSSION WE'RE HAVING THESE DAYS, IS SOME PROPERTIES WITHIN, YOU KNOW, ANY NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT A LOT IN THE, UH, IN THE DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGH TO ZONING CONVERSIONS OVER THE YEARS, CODE CONVERSIONS. WE HAVE POCKETS OR PARCELS THAT ARE ZONED FOR MULTI-FAMILY USE, MF 33 OR MAYBE EVEN RMM FOUR. THEY ARE ALLOWED BY ZONING, RIGHT, TO HAVE MULTIPLE FULL UNITS ON THEIR PROPERTY. IF YOU HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT, YOU'RE [00:55:01] ONLY ALLOWED TO HAVE ONE HOUSE AND MAYBE THE APARTMENT ABOVE THE GARAGE OR AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT. BUT THOSE OTHERS CAN HAVE, DEPENDING ON HOW BIG IT IS, THEY CAN HAVE, UH, DUPLEX, TRIPLEX, FOURPLEX AND SO ON, RIGHT? SO WHAT WE HAVE COME UP WITH IS IF YOU LIVE THERE AND YOU HAVE MULTIPLE APARTMENT UNITS THAT YOU'RE RENTING OUT, AND YOU WANT TO CHOOSE TO DO 'EM AS SHORT-TERM RENTAL ON THE SAME PIECE OF PROPERTY, ON THE SAME PIECE OF PROPERTY, OKAY? THE FIRST ONE YOU RENT OUT IS NO DIFFERENT THAN IF YOU HAD YOUR HOUSE PLUS THE APARTMENT ABOVE THE GARAGE. THAT'S CONSIDERED A TYPE ONE. BUT IF YOU ALSO CHOOSE TO RENT OUT THAT THIRD AND FOURTH ONE IN THE SHORT TERM MARKETPLACE, THOSE ARE CONSIDERED TYPE TWO. AND WE WOULD GO THROUGH THE PROCESS WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT PERMIT TO SEE ARE THERE ANY OTHER TYPE TWOS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? HOW DENSE IS IT? ARE WE, ARE WE REACHING THE 12 POINT A HALF? AND IF WE'RE ALREADY OVER THE 12 POINT A HALF PERCENT, WILL WE GO INTO THE B O A? WELL FIRST WE'LL DENY THE PERMIT, AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL WORK WITH THAT CUSTOMER. YOU CAN EITHER CHOOSE TO DO IT SOMEWHERE ELSE IN ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD, OR YOU CAN, YOU CAN REQUEST IT THROUGH THE B O A AND TRY TO GET THAT SPECIAL EXCEPTION. SO IT ADDS THAT LEVEL OF PROTECTION AND CLARITY THAT I DON'T THINK WE HAD FULLY DEVELOPED IN THE APRIL, UH, ORDINANCE. IF YOU REMEMBER, YOU HAD A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS. SOME OTHERS HAD A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS FOR THOSE INDIVIDUAL, UH, THE MAYOR MENTIONED IF THEN STATEMENTS, WELL, WHAT IF I HAVE THIS AND THEN WHAT IS THAT? SO WE'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT OF THOSE SINCE THEN. AND WE HAVE LANGUAGE NOW THAT WE THINK ADDRESSES THE MF 33, THE RMM FOURS, THE, UH, LARGE SCALE APARTMENTS THAT ARE BEING, UH, LEASED OUT AND THEN SUBLEASED OUT, UH, THE CONDO UNITS. SO, UH, WE THINK WE HAVE THAT, UH, KIND OF TACKLED NOW, KNOWING IT'S EVER CHANGING. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. YOU ALSO MENTIONED, UM, SOMETHING ABOUT, YOU ALSO MENTIONED ABOUT REVOKING THE PERMITS IF THEY ARE STILL OPERATING THAT LEGALLY. UM, SO WE WOULD REVOKE THE PERMITS, BUT THEN WOULD THAT MEAN THAT THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE TO BE TAKEN OFF POSTING ON HOME AWARE WHEREVER ON THE, THE, THE PAGES THAT THEY'RE ON? SURE. SO WE WOULD REVOKE A PERMIT AND WHETHER WE REVOKE YOUR PERMIT OR YOU NEVER CAME IN IN THE FIRST PLACE TO GET A PERMIT, WE WILL HAVE, UH, NOT ONLY THROUGH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, UM, WITH THAT THIRD PARTY COMPANY THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO HIRE TO HELP US FIND THEM, WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WILL BE CALLING IN SAYING, I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE RUNNING A AIRBNB. I'VE LOOKED AT THEIR PLATFORM. IF WE FIND THEM, THAT'S, THAT'LL BE A VIOLATION OF THIS ORDINANCE TODAY. THERE IS NO ORDINANCE, BUT IT WOULD BE A VIOLATION. UH, IT WOULD BE A 200 TO $500 FINE FOR EVERY TIME THEY DO IT. UH, AND WE'RE GONNA BE VERY DILIGENT ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE THINK THE COMMUNITY'S ASKING. IF, HEY, YOU CAN DO THAT. YOU CAN DO IT LEGALLY UP TO A POINT, BUT IF YOU'RE NOT DOING IT RIGHT, YOU'RE GONNA BE THAT BAD ACTOR, THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HIT YOU WITH THOSE PENALTIES AND REVOKE YOUR PERMIT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND, UM, ON SLIDE NUMBER EIGHT, YOU TALKED ABOUT IMPLEMENTING THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, AND YOU SAID IT WOULD BECOME EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, 90 TO A HUNDRED DAYS TO FORMALLY REGISTER, BUT WOULD THAT BE, THERE WOULD BE NO INTERRUPTION IN SERVICE, IS THAT CORRECT? NO, THAT'S CORRECT. SO THE, THE IDEA THERE IS THAT WE WOULD WRITE THE ORDINANCE, AND IF YOU REMEMBER BACK WHEN WE DID THE BOARDING HOME ORDINANCE, UH, ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO, WE ENACTED THE ORDINANCE AND THEN WE GAVE THIS GRACE PERIOD TO INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO COME IN AND, AND, BUT, BUT WE HAD TO GIVE 'EM SOME TIME TO GET THEIR STUFF, AND WE HAD TO EDUCATE AND GET READY FOR IT. WE, WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO IT THE SAME THING. SO IF WE PASS THE ORDINANCE AND IT GOES EFFECTIVE, THOSE THAT ARE LEGAL RIGHT NOW, KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING, BUT GET YOUR REGISTRATION AND PAPERWORK IN WITHIN THE NEXT, WE'LL CALL IT THREE MONTHS NOW TO A HUNDRED DAYS. UH, BUT WHAT THAT, THE IMPORTANT PIECE IS THAT IT STOPS THE GRANDFATHERING PIECE. UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAD REGISTERED WITH THE, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT IN APRIL WAS JUST UNDER 300. SINCE THEN, IT'S NOW JUST UNDER 400. RIGHT. SO MORE PEOPLE ARE COMING IN AND THOSE PROPERTIES ARE LEGAL AND WILL BE GRANDFATHERED. SO THE LONGER WE TAKE TO IMPLEMENT IT, THE MORE WE'LL BECOME GRANDFATHERED. AND, UH, I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS. I MEAN, UNLESS YOU'RE ONE OF THOSE THAT WANTS TO COME IN AND GET GRANDFATHERED, UH, BUT THEY'VE KNOWN ABOUT THIS FOR 18 MONTHS, SO THEY SHOULD ALREADY BE IN, SO. RIGHT. RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS, UM, THAT I HAVE. AND I THINK AS WE MOVE FORWARD, UM, I HAVE, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN ALL RIGHT WITH THE TYPE ONE AND OWNER OCCUPIED SHORT-TERM RENTALS, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S JUST PART WHAT MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DOING EVERY, WHENEVER THEY OWN PROPERTY AND HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. UM, THE, THE ISSUE THAT GAVE ME PAUSE WITH THE TYPE TWO IS THE DENSITY AND THE PROLIFERATION OF TYPE TWO IN CERTAIN STREETS, IN CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS. UM, SO THAT WAS MY CONCERN. SO I'M GLAD WE'RE ADDRESSING A PORTION OF IT, AND WE'VE HAD THAT COMMUNITY INPUT THAT WE HAVE NEEDED TO HAVE THIS TIME AROUND. AND AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, I THINK AGAIN, SAN ANTONIO IS TAKING A, A STEP TO BE COLLABORATIVE, TO BE, UM, COMMUNICATING WITH ONE ANOTHER TO GET SOMETHING THAT IS BEST FOR, UH, EACH OURSELVES [01:00:01] AND OUR CITY, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THIS INDUSTRY IS HERE. AND YES, WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE NEW INDUSTRIES, BUT ALSO NOT AT THE, UM, NOT AT THE, UH, SAKE OF OUR LEGACY NEIGHBORS AND OUR LEGACY HOMEOWNERS AND OUR LEGACY NEIGHBORHOODS. UM, BUT ONE THING I WILL TELL YOU SPECIFICALLY IN DISTRICT THREE AND IN AND AROUND THE MISSIONS, WE ARE ALSO SEEING SOME OF MY LEGACY HOMEOWNERS THINKING CREATIVELY NOW OF HOW THEY CAN USE THIS IN A VERY INNOVATIVE AND CREATIVE WAY. UM, SO I'M VERY EXCITED TO SEE THEM COMING TOGETHER. IT'S ACTUALLY BRINGING THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD TOGETHER TO SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO TO, UH, USE THIS TO THEIR ADVANTAGE SO THEY CAN STILL, UM, LIVE IN THE, THE HOUSES THAT THEY GREW UP IN WITH THE TRANSITIONING NEIGHBORHOODS THERE. AND, UM, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING RIGHT NOW, AND THIS WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH, BECAUSE WE NEED TO BE BOLD AND WE NEED TO TAKE A STAND BEFORE, UM, THE LEGISLATURE, UH, BEGINS BECAUSE WE ALSO NEED TO LET THEM KNOW WHERE SAN ANTONIO STANDS ON THIS ISSUE. AND I THINK THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN VARON. COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL. THANK YOU. SORRY, I DIDN'T EXPECT TO BE UP SO SO QUICK. UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE LIKE TO, SOME OF US LIKE TO WRITE OUT OUR POINTS BEFORE WE, BEFORE WE TALK, AND COURAGE. UH, YOU DID THAT VERY THOROUGHLY TO TODAY. SO THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION. UM, MIKE AND EVERYBODY HERE, THANKS FOR, FOR ALL THE WORK AND, UH, GIVING YOUR INPUT. I'M SURE IT WASN'T AN EASY PROCESS, BUT I DO LIKE TO SEE THE COLLABORATION THAT, THAT YOU'VE LED. UM, I LOOKING AT THE, AT THE FIRST, OR ONE OF THE EARLY SLIDES IN YOUR PRESENTATION, AND I APOLOGIZE, I WAS NOT HERE WHEN YOU PRESENTED IT, UH, BUT THERE ARE FIVE AREAS OF THIS C C R, UM, AND THE FIRST ONE SAYS IMPACT ON PROPERTY VALUES AND SAFETY. I, I GUESS I DIDN'T HEAR A CLEAR, UH, PRESENTATION ON THE IMPACT OF PROPERTY VALUES. SURE. SO, UM, BACK IN APRIL WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WE DID. WE, WE STARTED TO LOOK AT, WERE THERE ANY STUDIES OUT THERE? COUNCILMAN COURAGE ACTUALLY READ, UH, FROM ONE OF 'EM THAT WE KNEW ABOUT. UH, I THINK HE THREW THE UMASS ONE IN THERE. 'CAUSE I'M FROM MASSACHUSETTS AND HE WANTED TO GET MY FAVOR, UH, FROM, FROM HARVARD. THERE YOU GO. YEAH. SO, UM, BUT WHAT WE FOUND WERE, UH, A FEW REPORTS, AND I, I I COULD GET THOSE FOR YOU, BUT, UM, MANY OF THEM HAVE SAID YES, IT ACTUALLY INCREASES PROPERTY VALUES. WHAT WAS INTERESTING ABOUT THAT IS THROUGH THE TASK FORCE AND GENERAL PUBLIC MEETING PROCESS, UH, THERE WERE MANY, UH, PEOPLE THAT WERE CONCERNED THAT IT WOULD DECREASE PROPERTY VALUES, FOR EXAMPLE. UM, IF THAT'S A SHORT TERM RENTAL THAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT, THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO ME, I'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO SELL MY HOUSE BECAUSE NO ONE WILL WANT TO BUY IT RIGHT NEXT TO THAT. SO THERE WAS THIS CONCERN, SO THERE WAS CONCERNS BOTH WAY, BUT THE DATA SUGGESTED AND THERE WAS NOTHING AVAILABLE FOR SAN ANTONIO. NO ONE HAS DONE THE SAN ANTONIO VERSION OF THAT HARVARD STUDY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO, UM, IT WAS REALLY, UH, DEBATABLE. UH, WE THINK THAT IT LIKELY DOES INCREASE PROPERTY VALUE VALUES A BIT FOR THE MOST PART, UH, BUT HOW MUCH AND WHERE, AND MAYBE THERE'S SOME POCKETS THAT GOES LOWER. SO THAT WAS ADDRESSED AND WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN APRIL. WE, WE THINK THAT'S STILL THE SAME ANSWER TODAY. UH, I WILL JUST MENTION ON THE SAFETY STATISTICS, WE'VE ALSO, UH, LOOKED AT THE CALLS FOR SERVICE FOR POLICE AND CODE, UH, FOR THE, THE ONES THAT WE KNOW ABOUT. THERE'S NO DISCERNIBLE DIFFERENCE, UH, BETWEEN THAT AND JUST A GENERAL, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. OVER HALF OF THEM HAVE NO CALLS, UH, FOR ANY, LIKE A CODE VIOLATION OR COST FOR SERVICE. AND WE HAVE SOME STATISTICS, BUT WHAT WE FOUND WAS THERE'S NO MEASURABLE INCREASE OR DIFFERENCE IN SAFETY ISSUES. UH, BUT THAT COULD BE BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE NOT SEEING ALL OF THEM OUT THERE. WE DON'T KNOW WHERE ALL OF THESE ARE. SO THAT'LL BE SOMETHING WE HAVE TO TRACK MOVING FORWARD. SO, SO A A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ON THAT. UM, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, BECAUSE AS YOU SAID, ADDITIONAL S STR TWOS OR STRS ARE BEING GRANDFATHERED IN. SO I, I SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD WITH SOMETHING. UM, I DO FEEL THAT PERHAPS THE, UM, WE WOULD BE WELL-SERVED BY HAVING A STUDY ON THE SAN ANTONIO AREA REGARDING THE IMPACT ON PROPERTY VALUES, UH, PRECISELY FOR THE REASON THAT, THAT COUNCILMAN COURAGE MENTIONED. YOU KNOW, WE JUST DID GO THROUGH OUR VERY LARGE, UM, PROCESS ON, ON HOUSING POLICY, AND WE'RE MAKING A SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT IN FROM OUR BUDGET IN THIS COMING YEAR ON IT. SO I WOULDN'T WANT THE TWO EFFORTS TO BE AT CROSS PURPOSES. I THINK THAT'S, UH, THAT MAY NOT BE THE BEST USE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS. RIGHT. IF WE'RE, [01:05:01] UM, IF, IF THEY'RE WORKING AGAINST EACH OTHER, UM, HOW COULD WE GO ABOUT DOING THAT? WOULD, UH, WOULD THAT BE AN EXPANSION OF THE, OF THE SERVICES THAT YOU'RE HIRING? RIGHT. YOU'RE HIRING SOMEONE TO FIND OUT WHERE THEY ALL ARE RIGHT NOW? OR WOULD THIS HAVE TO BE A, A SEPARATE STUDY, DO YOU THINK? WELL, I THINK, UH, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE'LL BE STUDYING A LOT OF THE ISSUES SURROUNDING IT. CERTAINLY PROPERTY VALUES OR ANYTHING WOULD BE A PART OF THAT. UH, WE CERTAINLY KNOW, UM, I KNOW PETER'S HERE, WE'VE HAD DISCUSSION WITH, UH, VETO AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, AND HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT, UH, HOW THIS WILL TIE INTO ANY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE MAYOR HOUSING TASK FORCE. SO, UH, THE, THE, THE THIRD PARTY, UH, ORGANIZATION I KNOW TROY IS HERE, IS, UM, THAT WE'RE GONNA HIRE TO REALLY JUST FIND THEM AND HELP GET THE HOT COMPLIANCE THERE. IF THERE'S OTHER SERVICES OR OTHER AGENCIES THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT, UH, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING PROPOSED RIGHT NOW TO, UH, BUDGET IT OR TO HIRE A THIRD PARTY TO DO THAT STUDY. MM-HMM. , WE'D HAVE TO, UH, PROBABLY GET AN ESTIMATE ON THAT AND THEN COME BACK TO YOU ALL ON HOW WE COULD MAKE THAT HAPPEN. BUT IT DEFINITELY IS SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW IS OUT THERE. UH, AND WE'LL BE WORKING FROM A CITY STAFF PERSPECTIVE TO WATCH THAT. UH, BUT AGAIN, WE'D HAVE TO BRING SOMETHING BACK ON A, UH, THIRD PARTY STUDY AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. SO I'LL, I'LL TELL YOU TWO SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD WANNA SEE THE ANSWER TO. AND IT MAY NOT REQUIRE A FULL-BLOWN STUDY. UM, I WOULDN'T, I'D WANT US TO HAVE THE INFORMATION SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. THE FIRST QUESTION I'D HAVE IS, WHEN YOU DO GO OUT AND IDENTIFY WHERE THE, WHERE THE HOMES ARE, I'D LIKE TO KNOW AT WHAT RATE OR HOW MANY HOMES ARE BEING PURCHASED SPECIFICALLY IN ORDER TO BE A TYPE TWO, UH, AND HOW, HOW IS THAT TRENDING? AND THE SECOND ONE IS, UH, AND THIS MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, MORE COMPLICATED, IS IF THAT WERE TO BE TIED TO SOME LEVEL OF DISPLACEMENT, RIGHT? THERE'S A, THERE'S A FAMILY THAT MAYBE WAS OUTBID BY SOMEONE WHO, WHO DECIDED TO, TO PURCHASE THIS HOME AND, AND MAKE IT A TYPE TWO. AND SO, UM, WHAT, WHAT PRICE RANGE IS THAT OCCURRING IN? UM, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THIS POLICY FRAMEWORK, WE, UM, AT LEAST I BECAME MORE AWARE OF, UH, THE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF HOUSING STOCK THAT WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF. YOU KNOW, ARE WE, IS IT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE AT 120 ANNUAL MEDIAN OR AVERAGE MEDIAN INCOME OR, OR BELOW? SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S HOW, UM, WE COULD LINK IT TO THE GOALS OF, OF THE POLICY, UH, FRAMEWORK. SO, UM, COULD I REQUEST, UH, THAT YOU CONSIDER, UH, FINDING A WAY TO, TO GET AN ANSWER TO THOSE QUESTIONS? SURE. WELL, WE, WELL, WE ANTICIPATE NOT ONLY THAT, AND I DON'T MEAN SHE'S LOOKING AT YOU, SO I DON'T WANNA, OKAY. MM-HMM. , UH, WE ANTICIPATE CERTAINLY, LIKE WITH A LOT OF OUR NEWER ORDINANCES THAT, THAT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, WHETHER IT BE AFTER A YEAR OF IMPLEMENTATION, WE COME BACK TO THE APPROPRIATE COUNCIL COMMITTEE, OR IN THIS FORUM, THE FULL B SESSION, UH, WITH THE LESSONS LEARNED, WHAT, IF ANYTHING NEEDS TO BE TWEAKED. BUT CERTAINLY, UH, WE WOULD IDENTIFY SOME OF THOSE THINGS TO, TO HELP ANSWER THAT QUESTIONS. AND BEFORE WE EVEN START DOWN THAT PATH, WE'LL REACH OUT TO YOU AND THE OTHER, OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS TO WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO AND HOW WE THINK WE CAN CAPTURE THAT DATA. ALRIGHT. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I, I DO SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD. AGAIN, I JUST, I JUST WANNA KNOW IF WE'RE EXACERBATING A SHORTAGE THAT ALREADY EXISTS OR IF WE'RE NOT REALLY EXACERBATING THAT AREA. SO, SURE. YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE SHOULD BE NO REASON FOR WORRY. UM, ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU WAS, WASN'T CLEAR FROM THE PRESENTATION IS, UM, IF I OWN, UH, A HOME, I LIVE IN IT, BUT SOMETIMES I, I LEAVE FOR, YOU KNOW, A TRIP TO AFRICA OR WHATEVER, AND I WANT TO, TO RENT IT OUT, UM, ON AIRBNB, UH, HOW BEFORE THAT BECOMES A TYPE TWO, LIKE, IS, IS THERE A THRESHOLD? LIKE HOW MANY DAYS CAN I, CAN I RENT THAT OUT? YEAH, GENERALLY, UH, WHAT YOU WOULD DO IS YOU WOULD, IF YOU GENERALLY LIVED THERE, AND I THINK THAT'S SOME OF THE TERM WE USED, AND YOU CAN SHOW US PROOF THAT THAT'S REALLY YOUR RESIDENCE THROUGH HOMESTEAD, DRIVER'S LICENSE, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. UM, WE NEVER LANDED ON, BECAUSE THAT WAS DISCUSSED. WE NEVER LANDED ON IT WAS X AMOUNT OF DAYS. OKAY. SOME CITIES HAVE DEFINED IT BY X AMOUNT OF DAYS, BUT IT'S VARIED. IT'S VERY VARIED. WE FELT IT IMPORTANT THAT WE GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO, TO PROVE TO US THAT IT'S REALLY YOUR HOME AND YOU'RE JUST GOING ON YOUR MONTH LONG AFRICAN SAFARI THAT YOU JUST WENT ON. SO THAT MUST BE NICE. THANK YOU. IT IS NOT GONNA HAPPEN. OKAY. ON THIS SALARY , BUT THAT WOULD, BUT THAT EXAMPLE IS REALLY THE TYPE ONE. IF WE SEE SOMEONE THAT'S DOING THAT OVER AND OVER, AND, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE YEAR, EIGHT OUT OF 12 MONTHS, THAT SEEMS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE A TYPE TWO, UH, THE, THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN THAT WE CAN, WE CAN INTERPRET THAT APPROPRIATELY BASED ON THE INTENT. UH, BUT WE DIDN'T LAND ON A SPECIFIC NUMBER OF DAYS. AND, AND WE THINK THAT'S MORE APPROPRIATE BECAUSE WE'RE STILL LEARNING AS WELL. BUT, UH, THAT ISSUE DID COME UP AND WAS DISCUSSED AND, UH, BUT YOU DESCRIBED MORE OF A TYPE ONE THAN A TYPE TWO. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, JUST A COUPLE MORE, MORE [01:10:01] QUESTIONS. UM, SO I UNDERSTAND HOW THAT ONE WOULD BE ENFORCED, BUT, UH, THERE'S, UH, ANOTHER RESTRICTION THAT YOU PUT UP, UH, SOMETHING ABOUT, UH, PROPERTIES THAT HAVE RECEIVED INCENTIVES FROM THE CITY. UM, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ON THIS. IS IT PROPERTIES THAT HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED INCENTIVES OR GOING FORWARD? UH, AS OF THE DATE OF THE ADOPTION WOULD RECEIVE, UH, INCENTIVES? UH, WE BELIEVE IT'S GOING FORWARD BECAUSE THOSE THINGS LEGALLY IN EXISTENCE AND, UM, UN UNLESS THE CONTRACT THAT WE'VE ALREADY ISSUED, THE INCENTIVES CLEARLY DEFINES THEY CAN'T ONLY USE IT AS LONG-TERM, UM, RENTAL UNITS, BUT REALLY EVERYTHING FOR US IS REALLY MOVING FORWARD. UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. I KNOW, UH, I'M SPEAKING WITH, LET'S SAY JOHN JACKS, I DUNNO IF I THOUGHT JOHN, WE MIGHT'VE BEEN HERE, JOHN WAS HERE. SO SOME OF OUR INCENTIVES HAVE THE CONTRACT LANGUAGE, AND IF IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS SOMETHING STRONG ENOUGH FOR LONG-TERM HOUSING, WE CAN STILL APPLY THAT. UH, BUT I THINK SOME OF THEM MAY BE SIMILAR TO THE TIMBERWOOD LANGUAGE WHERE IT JUST SAYS RESIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHERE IT GETS INTO THE GRAY. SO WE'RE GONNA BE VERY SPECIFIC. UH, JOHN AND HIS TEAM HAVE ALREADY, UH, STARTED WORKING ON PROPOSING THAT LANGUAGE THAT CLEARLY IDENTIFIES LONG TERM VERSUS SHORT TERM. AND THEN THIS ORDINANCE ALSO, UH, WILL INCLUDE THAT LANGUAGE MOVING FORWARD. BUT WE HAVE TO PASS THE ORDINANCE FIRST. OKAY. UM, AND AGAIN, THAT'S FOR TYPE TWO OR FOR EITHER TYPE ONE OR TYPE TWO. AND INITIALLY WHEN IT WAS PROPOSED, IT WAS FOR EVERYTHING, BUT WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS IT'S REALLY GONNA BE FOR THE TYPE TWOS, THE TYPE ONES, BECAUSE SOME OF OUR FEE, SOME OF OUR INCENTIVES OR WHAT YOU THINK OF THE ICRP, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT'S PROPOSED TO CHANGE SOON TO A FEE WAIVER OWNER OCCUPIED REHABS THROUGH, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICE DEPARTMENT. WE FEEL THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT IF YOU'RE USING A TYPE ONE AND YOU RECEIVE SOME INCENTIVES TO REMODEL YOUR HOME, TO STAY IN YOUR HOME, THAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO STILL HAVE A TYPE ONE THERE. SO IT'S REALLY FOR TYPE TWOS ONLY, UM, IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. AND CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT TYPES OF INCENTIVES SPECIFICALLY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS IT'S THE C C D O, SORRY, THE CCHI P INCENTIVE. WELL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CCHI. THE ICRP WAS BEING PROPOSED TO BE MODIFIED. IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET, BUT, UM, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S ANY INCENTIVE FROM THE CITY, NOT THE FEDERAL ONES. UH, THERE ARE SOME OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB, UH, MONEY AND DOLLARS THAT GO THROUGH, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES DEPARTMENT. UH, SO ANY OF THOSE RIGHT NOW, IF YOU GET AN INCENTIVE FROM THE CITY, THEN YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ALLOWED TO GET A PERMIT FOR RIGHT NOW, AT LEAST TYPE TWO, UH, WITH SOME EX SOME EXEMPTIONS FOR THOSE TYPE ONES. UM, THE WAY THAT, AGAIN, LEMME BE CLEAR, THE WAY THAT ORDINANCES, ANY CITY INCENTIVE, ANY CITY INCENTIVE, YEAH. OKAY. SO, SO YOU WOULD ALLOW TYPE ONE, JUST THE, THE PROPOSAL IS TO ALLOW TYPE ONE, BUT NOT TYPE TWO. YES. OWNER OCCUPIED IN A HOME TO BE ABLE TO RENT OUT A ROOM OR MAYBE THAT APARTMENT IN THE GARAGE. IF YOU RECEIVED SOME MONEY TO REHAB YOUR ROOF THROUGH ONE OF THE CITY INCENTIVE PROGRAMS, YOU'D STILL BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT BECAUSE MANY OF THE COMMUNITY HAVE SAID, WELL, WE'RE RENTING OUT THAT ROOM SO I CAN PAY MY MORTGAGE OR PAY THE RISING TAXES AND, AND WHAT HAVE YOU. SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO ALLOW THAT, BUT NOT IF YOU GET A CITY INCENTIVE TO FIX YOUR ROOF OR DO SOME, YOU KNOW, HOME REPAIR AND THEN LEAVE AND TRY TO BE A TYPE TWO, THAT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. AND NOW, WHAT ARE, WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE, UH, TO ENFORCE THAT? SO THE PERMIT PROCESS AND WORKING WITH EITHER JOHN OR VETO AND THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT MAY ISSUE THESE? UM, WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT, UH, MAKING SURE THAT ALL THE INCENTIVE CONTRACTS OR ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE INCLUDES THE LANGUAGE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WE PASSED IN THIS ORDINANCE, AS WELL AS, UM, EVERY INCENTIVE THAT COMES TO THE, THAT COMES OUT THROUGH THE CITY COMES TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. AND WE VERIFY THAT WHEN WE'RE VERIFYING PERMITS OR APPLICATIONS, SO WE CAN BUY ADDRESS, LOOK AT DID THIS ADDRESS RECEIVE ANY INCENTIVES FROM THE CITY? IF SO, WHAT WAS IT? AND CAN WE ALLOW A SHORT-TERM RENTAL PERMIT TO BE ISSUED THERE? SO THE ONLY WAY IT WOULD BE A NON-COMPLIANT PROPERTY IS IF IT NEVER APPLIED FOR, FOR IT. OF COURSE, IF WE FOUND OUT, YOU KNOW, WE WENT TO ENFORCE, WE COULD FIND THAT, THAT THAT CONDITION. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. UM, I, I JUST DO WANNA EXPRESS THAT I HAVE, UH, SOME PAUSE ABOUT, UH, ENTITIES THAT HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED, UH, INCENTIVES. AND I, I, I SEE THE, I, OR IT'S BEEN EXPLAINED TO ME WHAT SORT OF CONUNDRUM THERE IS, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY RECOURSE, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO TO STATE THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE INCENTIVES, MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, WHEN I, WHEN I HEAR FROM STAFF IS THAT THOSE INCENTIVES WERE DISTRIBUTED IN ORDER TO HELP PEOPLE LIVE DOWNTOWN AND MAKE A VIBRANT DOWNTOWN AND TO MAKE IT AFFORDABLE BECAUSE THE COST OF THE PROPERTY WAS SO HIGH, RIGHT? THE, THE IN THE COST WAS SO HIGH THAT, UH, YOU COULD REALLY ONLY MAKE [01:15:01] MONEY IF YOU MADE A HOTEL. AND SO TO SOME EXTENT, IF THOSE PROPERTIES ARE BEING USED FOR A TYPE TWO, THEN WE'RE, I FEEL LIKE WE MAY NOT BE LIVING UP TO THE SPIRIT OF THE, OF THE CCHI PROGRAM. SO I DO HAVE SOME CON CONCERN ABOUT THAT. UM, I'VE BEEN TOLD THERE IS NOTHING THAT THAT CAN BE DONE. UH, NONETHELESS, I, I WOULD LIKE TO GET SORT OF A ESTIMATE OF HOW MANY, UH, CCHI RECIPIENTS ARE BEING USED AS A TYPE TWO, WHICH YOU'LL KNOW RIGHT. WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY REPORT. YEAH, I THINK JOHN JACKS, YOU'VE ACTUALLY DONE THAT RESEARCH, SO I HAVE THAT MM-HMM. NUMBER. UM, SO WE'VE INCENTIVIZED UNDER THE CCHI P ANYWAYS, WE'VE INCENTIVIZED 64 PROJECTS. UM, OF THE 64, THERE ARE, UM, LET'S SEE MY MATH HERE, THERE ARE 68 UNITS, UM, THAT ARE LISTED AS ON EITHER V R B O OR AIRBNB. OF THOSE 64 PROJECTS, 60 HOW MANY UNITS THOUGH, JOHN? 68 UNITS? NO, TOTAL UNITS OF THE 64 PROJECTS? OH, SURE, SURE. SO, UH, ABOUT ABOUT 6,800 UNITS THAT WE'VE INCENTIVIZED. SO A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE ARE, UM, LISTED ON V R B O OR AIRBNB. OKAY. SO 1%. OKAY, WELL THAT'S, UM, THAT'S A LITTLE OF REASSURING. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING THAT RESEARCH. UM, SO I , UM, THIS IS MY LAST AREA OF, OF QUESTIONS IS, UM, THE COST. SO I SEE YOU'RE HIRING, YOU'RE, YOU'RE PLANNING TO HIRE TWO PEOPLE, OR WE'RE PLANNING TO HIRE TWO PEOPLE, AND SOME OF THAT WILL BE RECOVERED FROM THE H O T. AND IS THAT, UM, I GUESS WHAT I, WHAT I WANNA KNOW IS CAN YOU RECOVER, HOW DO YOU RECOVER THE COST OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE REST OF THE ORDINANCE, NOT JUST THE H O T. CAN, CAN YOU RECOVER THAT ONLY FROM THE FEES OR ONLY, OR CAN YOU ALSO RECOVER THAT FROM H O T? SO IT'S, UH, IT'S KIND OF A DOUBLE TWO, TWO WAY ANSWER. THE, UM, THE HOT, UM, THE HOT CAN PAY FOR, UM, TROY'S AND THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT STAFF, WHICH IS THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AND THE TWO COMPLIANCE OFFICERS BECAUSE, BECAUSE THEIR WHOLE JOB IS TO ENSURE PEOPLE ARE PAYING THE HOT MM-HMM. , RIGHT? SO THEY ARE ALLOWED TO DO THAT. THEY'VE ESTIMATED THAT THAT WAS PROPOSED IN THE BUDGET THAT WAS JUST PASSED, AND THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED IN THEIR BUDGET. THE NUMBERS, AND I'LL LET TROY JUMP IN IF HE WANTS TO, BUT THE NUMBERS AND THE ESTIMATES ASSUME THAT WE WILL NOT ONLY COST TO RECOVER THAT, BUT THERE'LL BE SOME EXTRA MONEY THERE, BUT ONLY TROY AND HIS TEAM CAN USE THAT. YEAH. SO BY STATUTE COUNCILWOMAN, UH, WE CAN ONLY RECOVER THE FEES BECAUSE IT'S PRESCRIBED BY LAW HOW HOT TAX DOLLARS CAN BE SPENT. BUT LET ME REASSURE YOU ALL, WE'LL BE EVALUATING THIS OVER THE FIRST SIX MONTHS, AND IF WE NEED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS IN TERMS OF THE STAFFING, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU IN THE MIDYEAR BUDGET REVIEW AND TALK WITH COUNCIL ABOUT THAT. YES, THANK YOU. AND IF WE FIND THAT WE NEED MORE STAFF THAT WOULD COME FROM, WHICH, UH, REVENUE STREAM DO YOU ANTICIPATE? WE'LL STUDY THAT AND GIVE YOU SOME ALTERNATIVES AND A RECOMMENDATION, BUT MOST LIKELY FROM THE GENERAL FUND. ALRIGHT. SO IT'S NOT HOT, CAN'T BE USED FOR, FOR THAT. CORRECT. ALRIGHT. UM, WELL, THANK YOU, UH, VERY MUCH. AND, UM, CONTRARY TO, TO WHAT YOU MIGHT THINK, I ACTUALLY REALLY LIKE STAYING IN AIRBNBS WHEN I TRAVEL. AND I LOVE HAVING THE WHOLE PLACE TO MYSELF. IT REALLY ALLOWS YOU TO ENJOY SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM A HOTEL EXPERIENCE, BUT I'M ALSO REALLY SENSITIVE TO THE CONCERNS THAT, THAT WERE BROUGHT UP AND, AND OUR WHOLE EFFORT ON HOUSING AND, AND KEEPING SAN ANTONIO AFFORDABLE. SO I, I DO SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD CAUTIOUSLY, SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL. COUNCILMAN GONZALEZ. THANK YOU, UM, MAYOR. AND SO I HAD MANY OF THE SAME QUESTIONS THAT COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL DID, SO I'LL, I'LL JUST SKIP OVER THOSE. UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING A REPORT BACK ON SOME OF THAT, UH, INFORMATION. SO ALSO, UM, I HOPE I HAVEN'T, I STEPPED OUT FOR A MINUTE, BUT I HOPE I DIDN'T MISS, UH, ANYTHING OF THESE QUESTIONS. SO TYPE ONE AND TYPE TWO WILL BOTH PAY HOT TAX. SO TYPE ONE PAYS A HOT TAX AS WELL. THEY BOTH PAY HOT TAX. THEY, THEY SHOULD. OKAY. THEY'RE REQUIRED TODAY BY BOTH STATE AND LOCAL LAW TO PAY THE HOT TAX, BOTH OF THEM. OKAY. AND SO WE, AND OF COURSE WE INTEND TO DO THAT OF COURSE, IN THE FUTURE. OKAY. UM, ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD, UM, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT, UM, COMPLAINTS AND ABOUT THE THREE STRIKES. UM, WHAT ABOUT FOR LONG-TERM RENTERS? DO YOU HAVE THAT SAME POLICY? UM, NO, THIS RE THIS, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING RIGHT NOW, THE REGISTRATION PROGRAM WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS JUST FOR SHORT TERM. FOR LONG TERM. WE DON'T HAVE CURRENTLY A LONG-TERM RENTAL REGISTRATION THAT I COULD USE THE STRIKES TO PULL ANY REGISTRATION OR REVOKE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE TOPIC. UM, OKAY. THE ONLY ONE WE, THE ONLY ONE WE DO HAVE IS THE ABSENTEE PROPERTY OWNER REGISTRATION ORDINANCE. IT HAS A LITTLE BIT OF, IT'S NOT EXACTLY [01:20:01] THE SAME AS THAT, BUT IT DOES HAVE, HOW DO YOU ADDRESS BAD ACTORS VERSUS THE GOOD, THE ONES THAT ARE DOING IT CORRECTLY? NOT A PROBLEM. SO, AND SO I GUESS OTHERWISE IT'S JUST REGULAR CODE COMPLIANCE COMPLAINTS CODE OR PD OR A C S, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT STILL NOTHING, IF YOU HAD MULTIPLE COMPLAINTS TO, FOR A LOCATION, UH, AND THEY WERE RENTERS, THERE'S STILL NO REALLY WAY TO ENFORCE IT FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE? WELL, NO, I WOULDN'T SAY THAT. I'D SAY THAT THERE, THERE'S THE TYPICAL CODE ENFORCEMENT WORLD WHERE WE WOULD, UH, UTILIZE CITATIONS, UTILIZE THE COURT SYSTEM. UH, WE COULD GO AFTER THE OWNER BECAUSE THEY'RE EVENTUALLY RESPONSIBLE. IF IT BECOMES SO BAD, WE CAN ACTUALLY GO TO COURT AND ASK THE JUDGE TO SHUT 'EM DOWN. SO, BUT IT IS A LONG DRAWN OUT PROCESS IF YOU GET TO THAT. AND SO WE HAVE THE, WE HAVE TOOLS, UH, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A PERMIT TO REVOKE FOR THE LONG TERM. OKAY. WELL, I, UM, UH, 'CAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE A MUCH GREATER PROBLEM IN MY AREA, UH, THAN THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. BUT ANYWAY, I, UM, UH, THOUGHT I WOULD ASK THAT QUESTION. SO, UM, I KNOW THAT, UH, MIKE, YOU PARTICIPATED IN THE SMALL SCALE HOUSING FAIR THAT WE DID. YES. I THOUGHT WAS REALLY BENEFICIAL BECAUSE IT WAS TRYING TO SHOW, UH, SMALL SCALE DEVELOPERS HOW THEY COULD, UM, REHAB THEIR OWN PROPERTIES OR, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY, THAT THEY DIDN'T LIVE THERE BUT THEY OWNED THE PROPERTY. SOME OF THEM, YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE HOUSES, IF THEY COULD ADD A, A BACK HOUSE AND A, A GRANNY FLAT OR WHATEVER OPTIONS WERE AVAILABLE. AND, UM, IT WAS VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WERE JUST TRYING TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO INVEST IN THEIR OWN PROPERTIES. UH, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT, UM, BECAUSE I ASKED THE QUESTION STRAIGHT OUT, DO ANY OF YOU ALL HAVE THE INTENT TO USE THESE PROPERTIES AS SHORT-TERM RENTALS? UH, AND THEY ALL SAID THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE ANY INTENTION TO USE THEM AS SHORT-TERM RENTALS. THEY DID, UM, INTEND TO SELL THEM, UM, UH, AND NOT EVEN TO RENT THEM LONG TERM. THE, THE INTENT WAS TO HAVE A HOME THAT SOMEBODY COULD LIVE IN. SO, UM, I JUST, I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS, UH, UH, SOME GOOD FEEDBACK, UH, AS WE ARE TRYING TO PROVIDE INCENTIVES AND TRY TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM THE SMALL SCALE DEVELOPER, IT WAS NOT, UH, FINANCIALLY, UH, FEASIBLE TO DO A SHORT-TERM RENTAL. THEY REALLY WANTED TO GET THE HOME IN A CONDITION WHERE THEY COULD SELL IT. AND, UM, BECAUSE THE HOMES ARE IN SUCH A STATE OF DISREPAIR THAT, UH, IT WAS, UH, THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY WERE CONSIDERING, UH, AS THEY WERE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS. SO I JUST, ALSO, JUST SOME ANECDOTAL INFORMATION TO SHARE WITH MY COLLEAGUES ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN SOME OF OUR DISTRICTS, UH, IS THAT, UM, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO INVEST IN PROPERTY THEY ALREADY OWN. SO, UM, THAT'S, UH, UH, I, THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS, UH, THAT I HAVE. I THINK THE REST WE CAN, UH, WERE THE COUNCIL WOMEN'S QUESTIONS ABOUT AFFORDABILITY AND, UM, UH, WHETHER OR NOT IT REALLY, IF IMPACTS AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IF IN FACT, UM, THOSE HOMES ARE ALREADY QUITE EXPENSIVE. THEY'RE NOT HOMES THAT WOULD GENERALLY SELL FOR LESS THAN 150,000, WHICH I THINK IS NOW THE STANDARD FOR, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION. I DO YOU HAVE THAT ANY OF THAT HANDY? I, I SUSPECT NO, NO. I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE GOALS OF THIS ORDINANCE IS TO BE ABLE TO NOT ONLY IDENTIFY WHERE THEY ARE, GET THEM REGISTERED, BUT THEN WE CAN IDENTIFY, UH, DATA LIKE, UH, COST AFFORDABILITY, THOSE RATES, RENTAL RATES OR SAFETY STATISTICS ON THE, THE LARGER NET OF, UH, WHERE THESE ARE. SO, UM, WE DON'T HAVE THOSE YET, BUT I, I, I KNOW WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT STUFF BACK WHENEVER WE COME BACK. AND USUALLY IT TAKES ABOUT A YEAR TO GATHER SOME GOOD DATA AND, AND LEARN FROM THE TRENDS. SO. AND ARE THEY SHARING NOW THE, UH, AIRBNBS AND THE, THAT WAS ONE CONCERN. I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF, I MEAN, I'M, I HAD SOME QUESTIONS HOW LONG THEY HOLD THE PROPERTIES. UM, WAS IT SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE BOUGHT TO, DID SOMEBODY BUY A HOME TO THEN MAKE IT A SHORT-TERM RENTAL? BUT AT THE TIME, SIX MONTHS AGO, THERE, THERE WAS NO INFORMATION SHARING FROM THE AIRBNB COMPANIES OR THE HOMEAWAY COMPANY. WELL, ACTUALLY AIRBNB FOR EXAMPLE, THEY'VE BEEN VERY INVOLVED WITH OUR PROCESS AND THEY'VE BEEN ACTUALLY A GREAT PARTNER FOR US TO WORK WITH. SO, UH, THEY, THEY PROVIDED A LOT OF INFORMATION. I DON'T THINK THEY PROVIDED THAT INFORMATION, BUT IT COULD BE 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T ASK. UM, BUT, UH, THEY'VE BEEN REALLY GOOD TO WORK WITH AND, AND THEY'VE INDICATED THAT THEY'D BE WILLING TO, UH, CERTAINLY HELP US AS THIS THING GOES FORWARD, UH, TO BE THAT PARTNER. SO, UM, I COULD LOOK AND WORK, CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM, BUT, UH, I'M SURE THEY'LL BE HELPFUL IN THE PROCESS. OKAY. I THINK WOULD BE GREAT. UM, INFORMATION TO HAVE, UH, AS WE'RE, YOU KNOW, EVEN TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS EVOLVING AND, UH, WHETHER IT'S BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY OR NOT. MM-HMM. , SO. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MIKE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN GONZALEZ. COUNCILMAN PERRY. THANK YOU SIR. AND THANK YOU, MIKE. WHAT A LONG JOURNEY, RIGHT? ALL STARTED [01:25:01] IN DISTRICT 10. HOW ABOUT THAT? I LIKE TO THANK OR BLAME COUNCILMAN, UH, , BUT I, I, I WON'T SAY THAT. I WON'T FINISH THAT SENTENCE. WOW. UH, YES, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. UM, FIRST OFF, I, I DON'T HOLD, I, I DON'T THINK THEY HOLD A LOT OF WATER. YOU KNOW, THESE STUDIES UP IN HARVARD AND BOSTON HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. I, I JUST DON'T, I DON'T THINK THEY HOLD A LOT OF WATER HERE ANYWAY. UM, THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR JEFF. IS JEFF STILL HERE? WELL, UM, HOW MANY OTHER CITIES HERE IN TEXAS HAVE RULES? S T R RULES? WE, WE HAD THAT LIST UP IN APRIL. UM, THERE'S AT LEAST A HANDFUL, UM, THAT, THAT HAVE, AND I'M LOOKING TO MY STAFF. WE CAN GET YOU THAT, BUT IT'S MULTIPLE, UM, SMALL CITIES, BIG CITIES, BOTH. OKAY. BOTH HAVE THEM. YEP. SO THEY'RE ALREADY THERE ALREADY. THERE ALREADY ARE OTHER CITIES IN TEXAS THAT HAVE THESE, THEY'RE GONNA RULES, THEY'RE GONNA GIVE ME THE, THEY'RE GONNA GIVE ME THE LIST HERE AND I'LL HAVE TO, SO AUSTIN, ARLINGTON, DALLAS, EL PASO, FORT WORTH, HOUSTON. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE TEXT THAT WE JUST PUT UP ON OUR SPREADSHEET LAST TIME. SO THERE MIGHT BE SOME OTHERS. OKAY. ALRIGHT. OH, AND, AND I DON'T KNOW, AGAIN, THIS IS, IS JEFF ON HIS WAY? OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, HOW MANY, DO WE HAVE ANY RECORD OF HOW MANY COMPLAINTS THERE'S BEEN ABOUT STR WHETHER THEY'RE AN ST R AND HOW MANY COMPLAINTS THERE HAVE BEEN ACROSS THE CITY? YEAH, SO AGAIN, THIS WAS THE CHALLENGING DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD. WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE ONES WE KNEW ABOUT. LIKE WE KNOW THAT THESE, UH, BACK IN APRIL, IF YOU REMEMBER, WE KNOW THESE 800, I'M SORRY, THE 800, THESE 300 PROPERTIES. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WERE ALREADY REGISTERED WITH THE FINANCE THAT ARE SHORT TERM RENTALS. THE OTHER 1200 THAT WE GUESSTIMATE ARE OUT THERE. BUT WE LOOKED AT THOSE NUMBERS, UH, ABOUT 60% OF THOSE 300 DID NOT HAVE A SINGLE CALL FOR SERVICE FROM PD OR CODE. OTHERS MIGHT'VE HAD ONE FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE VIOLATION, OR MAYBE A NEWS, A NOISE COMPLAINT. SO WE HAD BROKEN THOSE DOWN, BUT IT WAS ALMOST 60% DID NOT HAVE A SINGLE CALL. PERCENT. OKAY. UM, SO, ALRIGHT. AND HOW DOES THAT LINE UP WITH THE REST OF THE CITY? SURE. WE LOOKED AT KIND OF JUST GENERIC CODE DATA. THERE'S NO MEASURABLE SPIKE, WHAT, YOU KNOW, THAT SAYS THERE'S MORE CALLS IN AN SDR. OKAY. UH, FOR S A P D OR CODE, THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE LOOKED AT. UM, THERE WAS LIMITED DATA, RIGHT? MM-HMM. , THERE'S ONLY MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, A COUPLE HUNDRED PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT COMPARED TO THE REST OF THE CITY. UM, BUT AGAIN, WE WERE LOOKING FOR IF THERE'S A SPIKE IN SAFETY OR, AND THERE WASN'T. AND WE DON'T THINK THERE IS YET. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO NO MEASURABLE, ANYTHING THAT STANDS OUT? NOPE. DIFFERENCES THERE. UM, UH, JEFF, THANK YOU FOR COMING HERE. UH, DO WE HAVE ANY INDICATION WHAT, UM, WHAT THE STATE IS GONNA DO WITH THIS? IS THIS GONNA COME UP AGAIN THIS NEXT? I THINK IT'S SESSION MOST LIKELY WILL COME UP AGAIN. IT CAME UP, UH, MID SESSION LAST SESSION THROUGH A BILL THAT WAS BROUGHT BY THE INDUSTRY, BY THE AIR B B B TYPE, UH, PROVIDERS. UM, AND IT WAS VERY LATE AND IT WAS A VERY UNCLEAR BILL THE WAY IT WAS DRAFTED. IT, IT APPARENTLY LOOKED LIKE IT WAS PREEMPT. UH, MOST OF OUR REGULATIONS OTHER THAN THINGS THAT ARE A THREAT TO PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY, UM, IT WAS DEFEATED AND DIDN'T PASS. SO, AS THE MAYOR SAID AT THE BEGINNING, THERE WERE IN A STATEWIDE ENVIRONMENT WHERE THERE AREN'T, THERE ISN'T A REGULATORY FRAMEWORK. UH, MY SENSE IS THEY WILL, AND I THINK OUR LOBBY TEAM WOULD AGREE, THEY WILL PROBABLY TRY TO ADDRESS IT. UM, NOW I THINK MIKE HAS SUGGESTED THAT A LOT OF THE CONVERSATIONS WITH INDUSTRY HAVE BEEN VERY POSITIVE AND THAT WHAT, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE MIGHT SERVE AS A MODEL FOR SOMETHING STATEWIDE, WHICH HAS HAPPENED BEFORE. UM, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD GO UP THERE WITH THE INTENT TO ENSURE THAT ALL THE WORK THAT THE LOCAL COMMUNITY, ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS HAVE PUT INTO THIS ISN'T PREEMPTED BY SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T ADEQUATELY BALANCE NEIGHBORHOODS AND INDUSTRY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. GREAT. THANK YOU, JEFF. APPRECIATE IT. UM, SO, UH, JUST A COUPLE OF COUPLE OF SMALLER ISSUES ON THIS. UM, GRANDFATHERING, YOU, YOU HAD TALKED ABOUT GRANDFATHERING. WHAT ABOUT, UH, PEOPLE THAT OWN 'EM NOW THAT WANT TO SELL 'EM? ARE THEY GONNA BE GRANDFATHERED INTO THAT PROGRAM? NO. SO THE, UH, GRANDFATHERING IS NON-TRANSFERRABLE TO NEW OWNERS. AND I SHOULD JUST REMIND EVERYBODY, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK I SAID IT. GRANDFATHERING IS ONLY THE LOCATION OR ALLOWANCE TO DO IT. YOU'LL STILL HAVE TO GET THE PERMIT. YOU'LL STILL BE SUBJECT TO THE THREE STRIKES PROCESS IF YOU'RE NOT A GOOD ACTOR, BUT, UM, THAT IT'S YOUR, YOUR PERMIT OR YOUR GRANDFATHER IS NON-TRANSFERRABLE, UH, TO A NEW OWNER. OKAY. [01:30:01] AND EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT GRANDFATHERED, IF YOU COME INTO, INTO THIS, IF YOU HAVE A HOUSE AND YOU WANT TO GO INTO, YEAH. SO IF THE ORDINANCE PASSES AN EFFECTIVE, AND YOU START AND YOU GET A SHORT-TERM RENTAL PERMIT, UH, AND YOU, A NEW OWNER COMES IN, THEY'LL HAVE TO APPLY FOR A NEW PERMIT. THE PERMIT ITSELF IS NON-TRANSFERRABLE TO A NEW OWNER. IT ENSURES THAT THE OWNER THAT HAS IT GIVES US ALL THE CORRECT CONTACT INFORMATION. YOU KNOW, ALL THAT STUFF WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PERMIT, UH, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE HELD TO THE STANDARD OF MAKING SURE IT'S NOT A PUBLIC NUISANCE. UH, SO WE'LL HAVE THAT PROCESS AS WELL. OKAY. AND DID Y'ALL CON UH, DID Y'ALL CONSIDER WHAT THE IMPACTS WOULD BE IF WE DID GRANDFATHER THOSE FROM SELLING FROM ONE OWNER TO THE NEXT? UM, WELL, I THINK, UH, I THINK A LOT OF THE GRANDFATHERING WAS DISCUSSED QUITE A BIT. UM, WE UNDERSTAND, AND EVEN THE TASK FORCE AND EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD ABOUT STATE LAW'S, LEVEL OF GRANDFATHERING AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, LEGALLY IN EXISTENCE BEFORE AN ORDINANCE. BUT CERTAINLY MOVING FORWARD AS, AS PROPERTIES CHANGE, THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE START LOSING THEIR GRANDFATHERING. OKAY. SO ON THE PLATFORM THAT WHATEVER PLATFORM THEY USE TO ADVERTISE THEIR, UM, PRODUCT, WILL THEY HAVE TO HAVE THEIR PERMIT NUMBER ON THAT PLATFORM? YES, THEY WILL. THAT'S WRITTEN INTO OUR ORDINANCE. OKAY, GREAT. GREAT. UM, YEAH, THIS HAS BEEN A LONG JOURNEY AND YES, THIS STARTED UP IN DISTRICT 10 AND THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED, I MEAN, ALMOST EVERY MEETING WE WE HAVE UP THERE. AND, UH, OVER TIME WE, WE'VE UH, JUST NOTICED THAT, UH, THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS UP THERE ARE ACTUALLY IN FAVOR OF STR. I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT STR AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, UH, THESE ARE, UH, PLACES THAT ARE MAINTAINED BETTER THAN JUST A REGULAR RENTAL UNIT. UM, THERE HASN'T BEEN A LOT OF COMPLAINTS. AND WHEN THERE HAVE BEEN COMPLAINTS, THE FIRST QUESTION THAT WE ASK IS, WELL, HAVE YOU CALLED THAT IN? HAVE YOU CALLED 9 1 1? HAVE YOU CALLED 3 1 1? AND THE NORMALLY THE ANSWER COMES BACK, NO. SO WE HAVE EXISTING MECHANISMS TO POLICE AND CLEANUP THOSE KIND OF ISSUES ON, ON S T R. SO, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALSO IN FAVOR OF, UH, CAPS ON STR AS FAR AS TAKING OVER AN ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THEY'RE IN, THEY'RE IN FAVOR OF THAT. UM, THEY'RE IN FAVOR OF DIFFERENT RULES BETWEEN THE TYPE ONE AND TYPE TWO. UM, AND THEN, UM, SOMETHING WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT HERE ABOUT, UH, SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS THROUGH THE B O A FOR A TYPE TWO. COULD YOU WALK THROUGH THAT? SURE. SO IF YOU'RE A TYPE TWO, OR YOU WANT TO BE A TYPE TWO IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ALREADY HAS, UM, REACH THE DENSITY LIMITS, SO YOU'LL GO TO THE B O A, YOUR OPTION IS TO GO TO THE BO O A, YOU'LL APPLY FOR A SPECIAL EXCEPTION. THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION PROCESS IS ALREADY IN OUR CODE ESTABLISHED BY STATE LAW. THEY'LL ASK FOR THE B O A TO GRANT THEM A SPECIAL EXCEPTION, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY A PERMIT FOR THREE YEARS, AN ALLOWANCE FOR THREE YEARS. UM, 'CAUSE THEY'LL HAVE TO COME BACK, EVEN IF THEY GET IT, THEY'LL HAVE TO COME BACK AND RENEW THAT SPECIAL EXEMPTION. THE B O A IS A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE, AND THE CODE DICTATES, IN OUR ORDINANCE, ACTUALLY ESTABLISHES THE FINDINGS OF FACT. IT CAN'T BE BASED ON A DECISION, WELL, YOU SOUND LIKE A NICE GUY, MR. SHANNON, WE REALLY WANT TO GIVE IT TO YOU. OR YOU SOUND LIKE A TERRIBLE GUY, MR. SHANNON, WE'RE NOT GONNA GIVE IT TO YOU. THIS FINDINGS OF FACT THAT EVERY CASE HAS TO USE, LIKE, AND ONE OF THOSE IS, DOES THE PROPOSED USE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OR PROPERTY, UH, DOES IT MAINTAIN THE ESSENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD? THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PROVE, UH, ALONG WITH I THINK FIVE OTHERS. SO IT'S A, IT'S A PROCESS. AND OH, BY THE WAY, THAT'S ALSO A, UM, IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS, MEANING THAT THE NEIGHBORS WITHIN 200 FEET, SIMILAR TO A ZONING CASE, UH, OR A VARIANCE CASE, THEY GET NOTIFIED. SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS WELCOME TO COME AND GIVE TESTIMONY AT THE, THE B O A HEARING. SO IT'S A, AND IT'S AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT, UH, THAT WE KEPT IN THE ORDINANCE. AGAIN, ONLY WHEN YOU REACH THAT DENSITY LIMIT, UM, SO YOU ALLOW SOME BY RIGHT. BUT IF THERE'S TOO MANY, AND THAT'S WHAT THE ORDINANCE WILL DEFINE TOO MANY, YOU'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT SPECIAL EXCEPTION PROCESS. OKAY. SO THERE'S THERE'S PROTECTIONS IN THAT. ABSOLUTELY. AND THE COMMUNITY HAS AN, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE INPUT INTO THAT ALSO. YEAH. GREAT. AND, AND THEN THE LAST ONE, UM, WE FOUND THAT MAJORITY OF PEOPLE DO WANT INSPECTIONS ON THESE, WHETHER THEY'RE SELF INSPECTIONS OR INSPECTED BY THE CITY. SO, UM, JUST LOOKING AT, AT THOSE, THOSE PARTICULAR ISSUES, THAT'S ALL BEING COVERED IN, IN WHAT Y'ALL HAVE PUT TOGETHER. AND, UM, UM, I'M A PROPERTY RIGHTS GUY, BUT I'M ALSO A NEIGHBORHOOD GUY AND, AND THERE'S GOTTA BE A BALANCE THERE SOMEWHERE. AND I THINK, UH, UH, WHAT Y'ALL HAVE WORKED ON OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS IS COMING [01:35:01] UP WITH THAT BALANCE, KIND OF WHAT, UH, COUNCILMAN PALS WAS TALKING ABOUT, UH, UM, KIND OF COMING OUT AND PUTTING IT ON THE TABLE AND, AND LET'S GET THIS THING WRAPPED UP AND, AND MOVE ON. SO ANYWAY, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK Y'ALL HAVE DONE ON THIS AND, AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE FINAL, FINAL IF THERE AREN'T ANY OTHER CHANGES ON THIS. SO THANK YOU, MIKE. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN PERRY. COUNCILMAN SALANA. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND I'LL BE QUICK, MICHAEL, I JUST WANNA ASK SOME QUESTIONS. I SEE SOME NEW FACES IN THE ROOM. I THINK THEY'RE NEW TO THIS, NEW TO THE ROOM, NEW TO THE COUNCIL BECAUSE THIS IS A, AN ISSUE THAT MAY HAVE BROUGHT 'EM DOWN TO, TO GET TO LISTEN IN. MY FIRST QUESTION IS, ARE YOU PROJECTING, UH, US VOTING ON THIS AT, AT ANY POINT IN THE SCHEDULE? DO WE HAVE THAT YET? UH, WHENEVER, UH, YOU GUYS ASK US TO BRING IT TO, UM, COUNCIL LAY SESSION, THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER, THE SOONEST WE COULD DO THAT WOULD BE NOVEMBER 1ST, BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE, UH, PUBLICLY NOTICED, UH, FOR AS A U D C AMENDMENT, BUT OH, I SEE. UM, YEAH, THAT WOULD BE THE SOONEST, YEAH. GOTCHA. BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR COUNCIL DIRECTION TODAY ON WHEN TO BRING THIS FORWARD. THAT'S HELPFUL. AND I, AND I THINK IF THIS WAS MY FIRST TIME AT THE COUNCIL, I, I WOULD WONDER WHAT THE PROCESS LOOKS LIKE. AND, AND, UH, TO, TO NOTE IS THAT THIS STARTED WITH A FIRST ISSUE COMPLAINT IN DISTRICT 10, AS, AS THE COUNCILMAN SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO SAY, THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT WE AS A POLICYMAKING BODY AT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO SHOULD CONSIDER. UH, WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED OVER THOSE TWO YEARS IS THAT THE, THE ISSUE HAS GET GOTTEN HOTTER, UH, THAN IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO. THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN COUNCILMAN COURAGE IS DESCRIBING CONVERSATIONS THAT HE HAS, THAT HE'S HAD IN HIS COMMUNITY, IT'S BEEN AN EVOLVING SET OF, OF, OF CONVERSATIONS I WOULD IMAGINE. AND, AND COUNCILMAN COURAGE IS DOING HIS JOB TO MAKE SURE HE'S THE VOICE OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO'VE TOLD HIM, LOOK, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL NEED TO TRACK AND, AND COME UP WITH A POLICY OR COME UP WITH SOMETHING TO EITHER SLOW THEM DOWN OR, OR MITIGATE, UH, WHAT COULD BE HAPPENING. AND, AND I THINK THIS SPEAKS TO JUST THE POINT THAT I WANNA MAKE, WHICH IS, UH, THIS IS THE, THE BACK AND FORTH TUG OF WAR THAT WE PLAY SOMETIMES ON. CAN WE PASS SOMETHING THAT FITS IN SAN ANTONIO THAT MAKES SENSE FOR US? THAT TOOK A YEAR AND A HALF TO COME UP WITH WHAT IS THE SWEET SPOT? BECAUSE WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A CITY THAT IS DIVERSE IN, IN ITS NEIGHBORHOODS, AND DISTRICT NINE AS, AS YOU'VE HEARD TODAY, HAS HEARD ABOUT THE ISSUE AND, AND THEIR COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE HAS TAKEN A STRONG POSITION ON IT. I HAVEN'T HEARD IT AS MUCH FROM THE CONSTITUENTS I REPRESENT ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE. UH, THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT IT DOESN'T EXIST. THERE ARE SOME ST THAT I'M AWARE OF, UH, AROUND THE MILITARY BASE, BUT, UH, IT'S TAKEN A DIFFERENT TONE. AND, AND I, I, I RESPECT THAT THERE'S, UH, UM, A LEVEL OF ANXIETY IN, IN A COUNCIL DISTRICT, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU START THINKING ABOUT THE CITY PASSING ITS OWN VERSION, HOPEFULLY NOVEMBER 1ST, WE, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE FINAL DRAFT LANGUAGE. UM, IT DOESN'T REALLY END THE STORY BECAUSE WHAT CAN HAPPEN IS THE STATE CAN TAKE ITS OWN POSITION AND, AND REALLY JUST ERODE ANYTHING WE'VE, WE'VE COME UP WITH HERE. SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, IS BE AS RESPECTFUL TO, UH, WHAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING, BECAUSE IF WE LET ANOTHER TWO YEARS PASS WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING ON THE POLICY, UH, WE CAN, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENT SET OF NUMBERS WHEN WE DISCUSS WHO'S GRANDFATHERED IN AND WHO ISN'T. AND SO IF I'M SITTING IN THE ROOM TODAY AND I RUN AN SS T R, IF I RUN AN S T R ONE, WHICH I STAY IN MY HOME AND I RENT OUT A ROOM, I'M NOT TOO WORRIED FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD TODAY, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THE CITY IS GOING TO KEEP ME OR PREVENT ME FROM DOING ANYTHING THAT I WASN'T DOING YESTERDAY OR BEFORE WE PASSED THIS. BUT IF I HAVE AN S STR R TWO, I'M, I'M A, IF I HAVE AN S STR TWO THAT'S FUNCTIONING TODAY. SO THIS IS LEADING INTO THE QUESTION. WHAT I'M DOING DIFFERENTLY, UH, AFTER NOVEMBER ONE IS WHAT, BECAUSE WHAT I'VE GATHERED FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD AND WHAT YOU'VE PRESENTED IS THAT, UM, I'M CURRENTLY PAYING HOT TAXES IN SOME CASES. SOME OF YOU . OKAY? SO, SO SOME OF YOU, SO IF I'M NOT, I'M WORRIED BECAUSE THE CITY IS NOW GONNA ACTUALLY START, UH, ENFORCING THAT. SO I WILL BE WORRIED. AND WHAT ABOUT THE REGULATIONS AND AND PERMIT PIECE IF I HAVE AN SDR TWO? YEAH. SO IF YOU HAVE AN S STR TWO, JUST LIKE AN SDR ONE, YOU'LL HAVE TO COME DOWN AND GET A PERMIT FROM THE CITY, MEANING OUR DEPARTMENT, WE WILL VERIFY THROUGH SELF-CERTIFICATION THAT YOU HAVE SOME OF THE BASIC SAFETY FEATURES. AND THEN, UH, WE'LL VERIFY, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE ALREADY PAYING HOT TAX, YOU'LL BE GRANDFATHERED AT THAT LOCATION. UH, IF, UH, IF YOU'RE NOT GRANDFATHERED, YOU MAY STILL BE ALLOWED IN THAT LOCATION, UH, BECAUSE YOU'RE THE FIRST ONE ON THAT BLOCK. UH, BUT YOU'LL GET A PERMIT TO DO THAT. AND THEN YOU JUST HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES AND NOT BE A PUBLIC NUISANCE TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, MEANING THE THREE STRIKE RULE. OKAY. UH, IF YOU ARE A, UH, PUBLIC NUISANCE, YOU MAY GET YOUR, UM, PERMIT REVOKED. SO THERE'S JUST A, A STANDARD OF CARE, UH, FOR NOT ONLY YOUR PROPERTY, YOUR GUESTS, AS WELL AS YOUR NEIGHBORS, THAT'LL BE ADDED ON. [01:40:01] UH, MANY OF THEM DO THAT. WELL NOW, UH, SOME DO NOT NECESSARILY, BUT THAT'LL BE THE EXTRA. AND THEN, I'M SORRY. AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THE, YOU'LL HAVE THE A HUNDRED DOLLARS FEE GOTCHA. EVERY THREE YEARS. GREAT. WELL, MICHAEL, LEMME JUST FINISH UP MY, MY COMMENTS BY SAYING THAT, UH, I'M READY TO TAKE THIS ON, UH, PRETTY QUICKLY BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE SPEED AT WHICH SOME FOLKS, KNOWING THAT THERE'S NEW RULES COMING IN, WE'LL TRY AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO GET THERE, SET UP. AND, AND MY URGENCY IS NOT AS GREAT AS THE URGENCY THAT MIGHT BE REPRESENTED IN ANOTHER DISTRICT, ESPECIALLY DISTRICT ONE WHO I, I KNOW, AND I'VE TALKED TO SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO LIVE IN AND AROUND THE SOUTH TOWN NEIGHBORHOOD IN AND AROUND NUITY IN DISTRICT TWO WHO ARE SAYING, IF YOU GUYS DON'T COME UP WITH SOME WAY TO PUMP THE BRAKES, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL LOSE ITSELF. AND, YOU KNOW, THE TURNOVER BETWEEN BLOCK AND BLOCK WILL GET EVEN MORE EXTENSIVE. SO I'M PREPARED TO, TO, TO TAKE THIS ON FOR A, FOR A VOTE, BUT ALSO RECOGNIZING THAT, UH, I THINK THE STATUS QUO IS WHAT, WHAT FRIGHTENS ME MOST, THAT IF WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING, UM, I THINK IT WOULD JUST KIND OF STILL CONTINUE THIS PATH OF, OF, OF UNMITIGATED PACE OF GROWTH FOR STR WITHOUT ANY FORM OF REGULATION. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING IT, UH, IF IT'S NOVEMBER 1ST, UH, SO BE IT. IF THE COUNCIL HAS A DIFFERENT DECISION, UM, I'LL BE WILLING TO SUPPORT IT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN SALDANA. COUNCILMAN. COURAGE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, IF SOMEONE WERE GOING TO OPEN UP A BUSINESS, UH, LET'S SAY A COFFEE SHOP ON A, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL CORNER OR SOMETHING, UH, HOW MUCH DOES IT COST THEM TO OPEN UP THAT BUSINESS? USUALLY? UH, IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH WORK THEY WOULD NEED TO DO. IF THE BUSINESS IS KIND OF ALREADY THERE AND YOU'RE JUST TAKING OVER, SURE. UH, IT'S ABOUT $212 TO GET A C F O APPLICATION THAT STARTS IT. MM-HMM. , UM, IT COULD GROW WITH SOME REINSPECTION FEES, BUT IF YOU'RE BUILDING A NEW ONE, UH, IT COULD BE HUNDREDS OR THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. OKAY. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT LETTING PEOPLE OPEN UP BUSINESSES IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS FOR A HUNDRED DOLLARS THEN, RIGHT. UH, SHORT-TERM RENTALS, UH, WE CAN DEBATE ON A BUSINESS OR NOT, BUT SHORT TERM RENTALS, A HUNDRED DOLLARS. YEP. OKAY. WELL, I THINK THAT THAT'S A LITTLE CHEAP FOR US. AND I THINK THAT IF PEOPLE ARE GONNA OPEN UP A BUSINESS IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY OUGHT TO AT LEAST PAY A COUPLE OF HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE WAIT THREE YEARS AND, UH, IT'S JUST A HUNDRED DOLLARS, I DON'T KNOW WHY PICK THREE YEARS, WHY NOT EVERY YEAR OR EVERY OTHER YEAR, UH, TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE A LOT MORE OF OUR OBSERVATION OF THOSE PROPERTIES AS WE RENEW THOSE. SURE. SO, UM, REMEMBER BACK IN APRIL WE PROPOSED THE ORIGINAL $200, VERY SIMILAR TO THE $212 THAT I JUST DESCRIBED. THAT WAS KIND OF THE LANDING SPOT. MUCH OF THE FEEDBACK WAS, UH, THAT'S MAYBE A LITTLE TOO MUCH. WE KNOW SOME OF YOU FELT THAT IT WAS MAYBE NOT ENOUGH. UH, BUT, AND THEN THE EVERY THREE YEARS WAS REALLY TIED IN, UH, A LOT OF THAT DISCUSSION WAS SIMILAR TO THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR THOSE THAT WILL REQUIRE A SPECIAL EXCEPTION THAT IS A THREE YEAR ALLOWANCE ANYWAY. SO WE FELT IT WAS APPROPRIATE THAT EVERY THREE YEARS YOU'D HAVE TO RENEW AS LONG AS WE HAD THE ABILITY TO HAVE THAT THREE STRIKES CONFIRMED WITHIN SIX MONTHS PART, PART OF THE ENFORCEMENT. SO THOSE BALANCED EACH OTHER OUT, UH, BOTH THE TASK FORCE IN GENERAL. 'CAUSE THE TASK FORCE WASN'T A HUNDRED PERCENT ON ANYTHING. BUT IN GENERAL, THAT LANDED, UH, I'D JUST SAY THAT WASN'T THE MOST DEBATABLE ITEM, RIGHT? LET'S JUST PUT IT THAT WAY. WELL, THE REASON WHY I REALLY BRING THAT UP TOO, IS BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, OVERSEEING THESE UNITS OVER THREE YEARS, AND IF THERE'S 2000 OF THEM AND THEY GIVE US A HUNDRED DOLLARS EACH, THAT'S WHAT, $200,000 TO KIND OF HAVE A SET ASIDE TO TAKE THESE ON OTHER THAN USING HOT, YOU KNOW, HOT TAX AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THAT THAT REALLY DOESN'T SOUND LIKE WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO COVER OUR EXPENSES, ESPECIALLY IF IT GROWS TO MORE AND MORE UNITS. YOU'VE ALREADY SAID YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO REALLY DO WHAT YOU'VE GOT. NOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HIRE SOME MORE. SO IF IT SHOULD DOUBLE, YOU MAY HAVE TO HIRE EVEN MORE STAFF. AND I HATE TO SEE MORE MONEY COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND TO COVER BUSINESSES OPENING UP IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. SO I'D, I'D REALLY LIKE TO HAVE THE COUNCIL RECONSIDER $200, UH, OF THAT FEE, AND I PREFER IT EVERY TWO YEARS. BUT THAT'S JUST ME. THE LAST THING I WANTED TO, UH, BRING UP WAS A, A SUGGESTION THAT CAME OUT AGAIN IN OUR HOUSING, UH, WORK. AND THEY, THEY POINTED OUT THAT, UM, I'LL READ THIS TO YOU, SHORT TERM RENTALS WERE ILLEGAL IN NEW ORLEANS UNTIL APRIL, 2017. SINCE THEN, MORE THAN 4,400 LICENSES HAVE BEEN ISSUED. NEARLY 75% ALLOW ENTIRE HOMES TO BE RENTED, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH, YOU KNOW, TYPE TWO RENTALS. UH, DUE TO THE CONTROVERSY THIS LICENSING CAUSED NEW ORLEANS HAS BECOME ONE OF THE FIRST TO ESTABLISH A $1 PER NIGHT FEE EARMARKED FOR ITS NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING IMPROVEMENT FUND. WHY CAN'T WE HAVE A $1 PER NIGHT FEE THAT COULD GO TO OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING? [01:45:02] THAT'S FINE. OH, THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, . UH, THERE'S ACTUALLY A, A STATUTORY PROHIBITION ON LINKAGE FEES, AND THAT IS ASSESSING A FEE ON ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT OR ANY OTHER KIND OF ENTITY AND SETTING IT ASIDE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO THERE'S ACTUALLY STATE LAW THAT PROHIBITS US FROM DOING THAT SPECIFICALLY. WELL, THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. COURAGE. AND THANK YOU AGAIN, MIKE, FOR THE PRESENTATION FOR, UH, AND COUNCIL FOR, UH, I THINK A, A GOOD IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION. MY INSTINCT IS JUST A, WE, WE HAVE GREAT, UM, WORK DONE ON THIS AND GOOD COMPROMISE. AND I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE WE CAN MAKE A DECISION AND MY INSTINCT IS JUST TO MOVE ON. UH, SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT WE GO AHEAD AND NOTICE IT, AND THEN, UM, I'LL CONFER WITH OUR, OUR COLLEAGUES HERE JUST TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION, BUT TENTATIVELY SCHEDULE FOR NOVEMBER 1ST. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MIKE. WE GOT ANOTHER ITEM? YES, YES, MAYOR. UH, WE HAVE A BRIEFING FROM JEFF COYLE, UH, OUR DIRECTOR OF INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS. AND THIS IS ON THE PROPOSED TEXAS LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM FOR THE 86TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION THAT BEGINS ON JANUARY 8TH. UH, STATE LAW GRANT CITY COUNCIL, THE AUTHORITY TO SET POLICY AND ENACT ORDINANCES THAT ARE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY. AND YET EACH LEGISLATIVE SESSION, WE OF COURSE, HAVE SEEN HUNDREDS OF BILLS THAT WOULD PREEMPT YOUR DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY, AND HAVE PASSED POTENTIALLY DUE DAMAGE TO NOT ONLY OUR CITY, BUT CITIES THROUGHOUT TEXAS. THE 2017 LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND THE SUBSEQUENT SPECIAL SESSION WERE PERHAPS THE MOST DIFFICULT FOR CITIES IN RECENT YEARS. AND LOOKING AHEAD TO 2019, WE ANTICIPATE FURTHER CHALLENGES. THE PROPOSED PROGRAM THAT JEFF IS ABOUT TO LAY OUT IS INTENDED TO SERVE NOT JUST THE CITY ORGANIZATION, BUT THE BEST INTEREST OF ALL SAN ANTONIO BY ALIGNING WITH THE PRIORITIES OF OUR ELECTED CITY COUNCIL. AND BY ESTABLISHING PARTNERSHIPS WITH MANY OTHER PUBLIC AND PRIVATE ENTITIES, WHICH SHARE AN INTEREST IN WHAT HAPPENS AT THE CAPITOL. SO TEXAS CITIES ARE SOME OF THE BIGGEST AND FASTEST GROWING IN THE COUNTRY. AND SAN ANTONIO, AUSTIN, DALLAS, HOUSTON, FORT WORTH, EL PASO AND CORPUS CHRISTI DRIVE THE STATE'S ECONOMY. SO WE INTEND TO GO TO THE LEGISLATURE WITH A MESSAGE THAT SUCCESS AT OUR LEVEL IS SUCCESS AT THE STATE'S LEVEL, AS WELL AS A REMINDER THAT THE STATE CREATED, ITS MORE THAN 1200 CITIES IN TEXAS TO PROVIDE CRITICAL SERVICES AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. SO THE CITY STATE PROGRAM WILL GO TO FULL CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION NEXT WEEK ON OCTOBER 18TH. BUT WE ARE HERE TODAY, THIS AFTERNOON TO BRIEF YOU. OF COURSE, THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AT THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT WE WANTED A CHANCE TO FURTHER DISCUSS THE RECOMMENDATIONS WITH YOU THIS AFTERNOON, AND THEN WE WILL PRESENT THIS PROGRAM NEXT WEEK FOR APPROVAL BY THE CITY COUNCIL. WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JEFF COYLE, OUR DIRECTOR OF THESE PROGRAMS. I REALLY THOUGHT EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM IS WAITING FOR THIS PRESENTATION, BUT THAT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT THE CASE. UM, THANK YOU CHERYL. UH, VERY QUICKLY, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH OUR TEAM FIRST. UM, OUR, OUR STAFF TEAM HERE, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, MEGAN DODGE, AND OUR STATE LEGISLATIVE MANAGER, CHRISTINE WRIGHT, WHO BOTH, UH, PUT A LARGE PART OF THEIR LIVES ON HOLD EVERY OTHER JANUARY THROUGH JUNE. UH, AND THEN WE HAVE A, A BULK, THE BULK OF OUR, UH, CONSULTANT LOBBY TEAM HERE AS WELL. AND I'LL START WITH MARK RODRIGUEZ, WHO'S BEEN WITH THE CITY THE LONGEST. IN FACT, HE WAS IN MY SEAT MANY YEARS AGO. HE WAS THE CHAMBERS, UH, GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS PERSON AFTER THAT, HAS REPRESENTED THE CITY AND HAS ALSO SERVED AS A FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE US HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. UH, MIKE TOOMEY AND KERRY SIMMONS ARE BOTH FROM THE TEXAS LOBBY GROUP. MIKE IS A FORMER HOUSE MEMBER, CHIEF OF STAFF TO TWO FORMER TEXAS GOVERNORS, THE ONLY PERSON WHO'S EVER DONE THAT. UH, AND KERRY IS, UH, A FORMER LEGISLATIVE AIDE. SHE WAS THE FORMER EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE, UM, HOUSE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS, AND SHE HELPED, UH, FORM A PAC FOR REPUBLICAN WOMEN A FEW YEARS AGO BEFORE JOINING MIKE'S FIRM, JESSE AND SRA IN THE SECOND ROW HERE IS, UH, FORMER, WELL, NOT FORMER, I SHOULDN'T DO THAT YET. SPEAKER STRAUSS'S, FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF. HE'S ALSO A FORMER MAYOR OF HIS HOMETOWN, TAYLOR, TEXAS, UH, AND IS A FORMER GENERAL COUNSEL FROM THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE. AND SITTING BEHIND HIM IS ANDREW KIEFER FROM FOCUSED ADVOCACY. THEY'RE OUR PRIMARY, UH, OUR, OUR LEAD TEAM FIRM, I GUESS, UM, THAT SPECIALIZES IN MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT. THEY REPRESENT US AS WELL AS, UH, A NUMBER OF OTHER, UH, CITIES IN TEXAS. AND [01:50:01] COUNCILMAN, COURAGE, YOU OFTEN TALK ABOUT WORKING WITH OTHER CITIES. PART OF THE WAY WE DO IT IS THROUGH, UH, FOCUSED ADVOCACY. SO, UH, WITH THAT, UM, START THE, THE, UH, LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM, OF COURSE, IS WHAT GIVES US, UH, IS, IS YOU ALL GIVING US THE GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION TO BE ABLE TO GO ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY AND ITS RESIDENTS AT THE LEGISLATURE, UH, WITH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND WITH THE STATE AGENCIES. AND AS CHERYL TOUCHED ON, UH, OFTEN WHAT THAT MEANS IS PLAYING A LOT OF DEFENSE, UH, MORE SO THAN OFFENSE. UH, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, SORT OF A 1 0 1. THE, THE, IN TEXAS, THE LEGISLATURE MEETS EVERY OTHER YEAR, BEGINNING IN JANUARY OF ODD NUMBERED YEARS. AND THEY RUN FOR 140 DAYS FROM JANUARY THROUGH THE, BASICALLY THE START OF JUNE. UH, IT'S A TWO CHAMBER LEGISLATURE. OF COURSE, THE SENATE HAS 31 MEMBERS, AND THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR, WHO'S ELECTED STATEWIDE, IS THE PRESIDING OFFICER OF THE SENATE. THE HOUSE, UH, HAS 150 MEMBERS, AND THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE IS ELECTED FROM WITHIN, UH, THE BODY. AND, UH, ALL 150 HOUSE MEMBERS ARE UP FOR, UH, ELECTION IN NOVEMBER. UH, AND, UH, 16 OF THE 31 SENATE SEATS ARE UP FOR ELECTION IN NOVEMBER. THEY ARE ON A ROTATING, UH, SCHEDULE, ALTERNATING SCHEDULE. LAST SESSION, AND THIS IS PRETTY TYPICAL, UH, JUST UNDER 7,000 BILLS WERE FILED ALTOGETHER, UH, 2000, MORE THAN 2000 OF THEM WOULD'VE AFFECTED CITIES IN SOME WAY. AND THAT'S NOT NORMAL. IT'S BEEN GROWING OVER THE YEARS, THE FOCUS AND SORT OF THE CONFLICT BETWEEN STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT. WE, AS A TEAM, UH, TRACKED, UH, JUST ABOUT 2000 OF THOSE BILLS AS WELL THROUGHOUT THE SESSION. AND, AND ULTIMATELY, WHEN ALL WAS SAID AND DONE AT THE END OF THE REGULAR SESSION, 1200 OF THOSE BILLS PASSED OF THE 6,800, UH, WITH ABOUT 25% OF THEM HAVING SOME IMPACT ON STATE GOVERNMENT. SO IT VERY, WHILE RESIDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY DON'T OFTEN RECOGNIZE IT, UH, VERY MUCH WHAT HAPPENS UP AT THE CAPITOL AFFECTS US HERE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL IN OUR EVERYDAY LIVES. UH, LAST SESSION, THERE WAS ALSO A SPECIAL SESSION. AFTER THE REGULAR SESSION, UH, THE GOVERNOR PUT 20, UH, ITEMS ON THE CALL, AND, UH, JUST ABOUT HALF OF THEM, NINE OF THE 20 PASSED. MANY OF THEM DID FOCUS ON CITY'S, UH, REVENUE CAP ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT, PROPERTY TAXES, SPENDING CAPS, UH, A A, UH, SUPER VESTING PERMIT SUGGESTION, WHICH WOULD'VE ESSENTIALLY MEANT THAT WHENEVER A PROPERTY WAS BOUGHT, ONLY THE ORDINANCES THAT WERE IN PLACE AT THAT TIME APPLIED. AND ANYTHING PASSED AFTER THAT, UH, WAS, WAS, UH, ESSENTIALLY GRANDFATHERED TO THAT PROPERTY. THE BATHROOM BILL, UH, CELL PHONE, TEXTING, PREEMPTION, NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS. UH, AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM, THE, OF, OF THOSE ISSUES IN THE SPECIAL SESSION THAT WOULD'VE AFFECTED CITIES ONLY TWO PASSED. ONE WAS A TREE, A STATEWIDE TREE BILL THAT, UH, REALLY HAD NO HARMFUL EFFECT ON OUR LOCAL ORDINANCE. AND THE SECOND WAS THE, UH, WIDE SWEEPING REFORM OF ANNEXATION LAW, WHICH YOU ALL KNOW VERY WELL. SO HERE'S THE LANDSCAPE GOING FORWARD. THE ELECTION DAY IS NOVEMBER 6TH. UH, THERE WILL BE AT LEAST 21 NEW HOUSE MEMBERS OF THE 150, I SAY AT LEAST BECAUSE 13 ARE, UH, LEAVING, RETIRING. AND EIGHT HAVE BEEN DEFE. EIGHT INCUMBENTS HAVE BEEN DEFEATED IN THE PRIMARIES. THERE COULD BE OTHER, UH, TURNOVER PENDING THE NOVEMBER 6TH ELECTION, UH, IN THE SENATE, THERE'LL BE AT LEAST THREE NEW SENATORS. UH, AND FROM OUR DELEGATION, WE HAVE 10 HOUSE MEMBERS AND FOUR SENATORS. UH, OF THE 10, WE'LL HAVE THREE NEW HOUSE MEMBERS, UH, AT LEAST, AND ONE NEW SENATOR AMONGST THE FOUR. UH, AND THEN OF COURSE, THE BIG NEWS, UH, THAT ALL OF YOU KNOW, IS THAT THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE, UH, JOE STRAUSS, IS NOT RUNNING AGAIN. SO, UH, THE MAIN FOCUS OF THE ENTIRE LEGISLATURE, REALLY WHEN THEY CONVENE IN JANUARY, WILL BE WHO EMERGES AS THE, AS THE NEW LEADER OF THE HOUSE, UM, ELECTED BY THE BODY. SO HERE'S THE TIMELINE LEADING UP TO TODAY. WE, UH, BEGINNING BACK IN THE SPRING, REQUESTED FROM DEPARTMENTS SUGGESTIONS ON LEGISLATIVE ISSUES THAT THEY HAD AND WANTED US TO FOCUS ON. WE REVIEWED THOSE WITH OUR CONSULTANT TEAM AND AS OUR, AS A STAFF PRESENTED THOSE TO, UH, THE CITY LEADERSHIP, CHERYL AND, AND, UH, THE EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP TEAM. AND THEN PRESENTED A DRAFT AGENDA TO THE I G R COMMITTEE SEPTEMBER 12TH. WE ARE NOW IN THE B SESSION PRESENTATION. THERE IS ANOTHER I G R COMMITTEE MEETING NEXT WEEK, WHICH WE WILL, UH, NEED TO WRAP UP A FEW ITEMS, A FEW LOOSE ENDS THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A MINUTE. BUT THEN, AS CHERYL MENTIONED, ON OCTOBER 18TH, TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, THE COUNCIL WOULD, UH, VOTE ON THE FULL LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. AND THEN SHORTLY AFTER THAT PRE-FILING OF BILLS BEGINS IN NOVEMBER. AND, UH, WE WILL HAVE OUR BIANNUAL, UH, DELEGATION BRIEFING, UH, IN DECEMBER, WHERE WE INVITE ALL OF OUR SAN [01:55:01] ANTONIO MEMBERS IN TO HEAR OUR AGENDA AND, UH, AND DISCUSS THE ISSUES. SO OUR PROGRAM IS STRUCTURED LIKE THIS. THE, THE, THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF IT IS OUR PART PRIORITIES SECTION, AND WE KEEP THOSE, UH, FEW IN NUMBER. UH, THEY COULD BE OFFENSIVE, THEY COULD BE DEFENSIVE, UM, BUT WE'LL GET TO THOSE IN A SECOND. I'LL SPEND THE MOST TIME TALKING ABOUT THOSE. NUMBER TWO ARE INITIATIVES. THOSE ARE BILLS THAT ARE SPECIFIC. GENERALLY, THEY'RE SPECIFIC ONLY TO SAN ANTONIO, AND THEY REQUIRE US TO DRAFT THE LEGISLATION, FIND A SPONSOR, UH, SHEPHERD IT THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS. AND A LOT OF ENERGY GOES INTO PASSING A BILL. UH, SO WE TYPICALLY KEEP THOSE, UH, FEW IN NUMBER. UH, THE THIRD SECTION IS OUR ENDORSEMENTS, ITEMS THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING, UH, THAT THE CITY SUPPORT, BUT WE WON'T NECESSARILY BE THE LEAD HORSE ON. UM, THE FOURTH IS OUR PROTECTION OF COMMUNITY INTEREST. SORT OF AN OMNIBUS STATEMENT ABOUT, UH, PROTECTING THE CITY ORGANIZATION AND ULTIMATELY THE RESIDENTS OF THIS COMMUNITY. UH, AND THEN THE FIFTH IS OUR PARTNERSHIPS. RATHER THAN LISTING ALL THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES OF ALL THE OTHER ENTITIES IN TOWN, WE IDENTIFY THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE'LL WORK WITH. AND SO LONG AS THEY DON'T CONFLICT WITH OUR PRIORITIES, WE'LL SUPPORT AND, AND, UH, FIGHT ALONGSIDE THEM, SO TO SPEAK. SO HERE ARE THE SIX PRIORITIES THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING. UM, MEANINGFUL PROPERTY TAX RELIEF, PROTECTING OUR PUBLIC UTILITIES IN SAN ANTONIO, PRESERVING YOUR LOCAL DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY AS A CITY COUNCIL, SUPPORTING OUR MILITARY, UH, KEEPING OUR CITY COMPETITIVE ECONOMICALLY. UH, AND THEN, UH, I WANT TO NOTE FOR THE I G R COMMITTEE, WE'VE ADDED THE SIXTH ITEM ABOUT TRANSPORTATION FUNDING. IT WAS IN THE PROGRAM WHEN IT WENT THROUGH I G R, BUT IT WAS UNDER THE ENDORSEMENT SECTION. AND AFTER SOME OF THE DIALOGUE AT I G R AS WELL AS THE ONGOING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT CONNECT SA, UH, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE MOVE THAT UP INTO THE PRIORITY SECTION. SO LEMME GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE. UM, MEANINGFUL PROPERTY TAX RELIEF IS A LITTLE BIT OF A, OF A, UH, NUANCED AND, AND NEW POSITION FOR THE CITY. WE HAVE ALWAYS ARGUED THAT, UH, THAT THE REAL SOLUTION FOR PROPERTY TAXES WAS, UH, MORE STATE FUNDING FOR PUBLIC SCHOOLS. BUT WE'VE NEVER MADE THAT AN ISSUE THAT WE'VE ENGAGED ON AT THE LEGISLATURE. WE'VE TYPICALLY DEFENDED AGAINST, UH, WHAT WE'VE FELT WERE, WERE, UM, SHORTSIGHTED SOLUTIONS OF CAPPING CITIES THAT DIDN'T REALLY GET AT THE HEART OF THE ISSUE. UH, OUR CHAIRMAN SALDANA RECOMMENDED BACK, UH, EARLY IN THE YEAR THAT WE BRING ALL OF THE SUPERINTENDENTS IN FROM OUR LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND MOST ATTENDED. AND WE HAD AN EXCELLENT DISCUSSION AMONGST THEM. AND THAT LED, I THINK, TO A, A REALIZATION THAT THE CITY HAS A VESTED INTEREST IN THIS ISSUE OF, UH, PUBLIC EDUCATION FUNDING. AND SO, RATHER THAN JUST BEING UP THERE AND BEING ANTI REVENUE CAPS, UH, WE ARE GOING UP THERE WITH A MESSAGE THAT WE ARE FOR PROPERTY TAX RELIEF IN THE FORM OF THE STATE FUNDING A BETTER SHARE OF, ITS DOING ITS PART TO FUND PUBLIC EDUCATION. UH, SO NUMBER ONE, WE WANT MORE FUNDING FOR SCHOOLS. SECOND ITEM IS MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR YOU AS AN ELECTED BODY TO PROVIDE TARGETED TAX RELIEF. THAT'S A NOD TO A COUPLE THINGS. NUMBER ONE, THE, THE MAYOR'S HOUSING TASK FORCE TALKED ABOUT PROPERTY TAX RELIEF FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED IN THEIR HOMES FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, UH, LOW AND MIDDLE INCOME HOMEOWNERS. THERE WAS A DISCUSSION AT THE BUDGET, UH, WORK SESSION ABOUT THE STATEWIDE, UH, VETERANS EXEMPTION AND HOW WE CAN'T CHANGE THE NUMBER, UH, THERE BECAUSE IT'S A, IT'S A STATEWIDE MANDATE. AND SO, ESSENTIALLY, THE SECOND PLANK OF THE MEANINGFUL PROPERTY TAX REFORM IS THE ABILITY FOR YOU ALL AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, UH, TO DECIDE, UH, TO BE ABLE TO PASS OTHER, UH, TAX RELIEF AS APPROPRIATE FOR THE COMMUNITY AS OPPOSED TO THE STATE DOING A ONE SIZE FITS ALL. AND THEN THE THIRD PLANK IN THE MEANINGFUL PROPERTY TAX RELIEF, OF COURSE, IS OPPOSING A, UH, A REDUCTION OF THE ROLLBACK RATE. IT'S CURRENTLY 8% RIGHT NOW, AS YOU KNOW. UH, THERE HAVE BEEN PROPOSALS LAST SESSION OF LOWERING IT TO FOUR OR FIVES 6%, WHICH WE'VE CALCULATED WOULD GENERATE A FEW DOLLARS SAVINGS A MONTH, UH, BUT COST THE CITY POTENTIALLY MILLIONS. AND SO WE REMAIN OPPOSED TO THAT, RECOMMENDING THAT AS OUR POSITION JUST, UH, OVERVIEW ON, ON PROPERTY TAXES, YOU KNOW, THIS STUFF, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE RESTATE IT FOR THE COMMUNITY. UH, THE PART THAT WE CONTROL AS A CITY, OUR TAX RATE HAS NOT BEEN, HAS, UH, NOT BEEN RAISED IN 25 YEARS, AND HAS BEEN LOWERED SEVEN TIMES SINCE THEN. THIS FISCAL YEAR, YOU ALL HAVE PASSED A BUDGET THAT PROVIDES, UH, ROUGHLY $52 MILLION IN LOCALLY ENACTED PROPERTY TAX RELIEF TO SENIORS AND AND DISABLED HOMEOWNERS. AND OF COURSE, THE CITY'S PORTION OF THE TAX BILL IN BEXAR COUNTY IS [02:00:01] ABOUT 20%, UH, WHERE SCHOOLS MAKE UP 50%, AND THEN A NUMBER OF OTHER TAXING ENTITIES. THE BULK OF THAT, IN FACT, YOU'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THE SCHOOL PORTION. THIS IS, UH, REALLY JUST THE PAST EIGHT YEARS. UH, AND THE TREND GOES BACK FURTHER THAN THAT, UH, ABOUT A DECADE AGO. THE SHARE BETWEEN STATE FUNDING FOR EDUCATION, WHICH BY THE WAY, COMES FROM PRI PRIMARILY FROM OIL AND GAS REVENUES. IT'S NOT A STATE TAX ON THE SAME HOMEOWNERS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE STATE'S PORTION AND THE LOCAL PROPERTY TAX BURDEN WERE ABOUT 50 50. AND THAT HAS BEEN CHANGING OVER THE YEARS TO THE POINT NOW WHERE THE PROJECTION FOR THIS YEAR IS THAT LOCAL TAXPAYERS WILL BEAR 62% OF THE BURDEN, UH, WHILE THE STATE'S SHARE HAS DECLINED A 38%. AND THE PROJECTIONS GOING FORWARD ARE FOR THAT TO CONTINUE. UH, JUST A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, THE SENATE SELECT COMMITTEE ON PROPERTY TAX REFORM HELD A HEARING ON WHAT CITIES DO TO EDUCATE THEIR RESIDENTS ON THE BUDGET. AND SO WE PROUDLY WENT UP THERE TO TESTIFY ABOUT SA SPEAK UP AND ALL THE EFFORTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE, AND ALL THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GET FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT THEY WANNA SEE IN THE BUDGET. PREDICTABLY, UH, THE CONVERSATION TURNED TO PROPERTY TAXES. THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE IS THE SENATOR BETTENCOURT HAS BEEN THE AUTHOR OF THE REVENUE CAP BILL IN PAST SESSIONS. UH, AND THE ARGUMENT THAT THEY'RE MAKING UP THERE IS THAT PROPERTY TAXES ARE, UH, OUTPACING, UH, INDIVIDUAL'S ABILITY TO PAY FOR THEM INCOMES. AND, UH, UNFORTUNATELY, THE UNDERPINNING OF THAT IS IN IS DATA THAT IS NOT, THAT IS FLAWED. UH, PARTICULARLY WHAT THEY SHOW IS A, UM, A TAX LEVY THAT OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS HAS GONE UP X PERCENT, WHILE INCOME'S ONLY GONE UP Y PERCENT. BUT THE PROPERTY TAX LEVY INCLUDES NOT JUST THE INCREASED TAXES THAT EXISTING PROPERTY OWNERS ARE PAYING, IT ALSO INCLUDES NEW PROPERTY TAXES COMING ON THE ROLLS. AND SO THAT'S NOT A FAIR REFLECTION OF WHAT A PROPERTY TAXPAYER'S BURDEN HAS BEEN OVER TIME. AND SECONDLY, AND I POINTED THIS OUT IN THE COMMITTEE, THE, UM, THE DATA THEY SHOWED WAS FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS, WHICH SHOWS AN UPWARD TRAJECTORY OF PROPERTY TAX COLLECTIONS. WHAT IT DIDN'T SHOW WAS THE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS BEFORE THAT, WHEN THE MARKET WAS DOWN, WHEN VALUES WERE DOWN, AND CONSEQUENTLY, OUR REVENUES AS A CITY WERE DOWN. THE COUNCIL AT THAT TIME DIDN'T RAISE THE RATE TO MAKE UP FOR IT. UH, WE MADE CUTS AS AN ORGANIZATION AND LIVED WITHIN THEM. SO WHEN YOU AVERAGE THAT PERIOD OF TIME WITH THE CURRENT GROWTH PERIOD OF TIME, UH, WE'RE AT ABOUT THREE POINT A HALF, UH, PERCENT REVENUE GROWTH OVER A DECADE, WHICH IS MUCH MORE MODEST THAN WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED, UH, AT THE STATE LEVEL. UM, THE, AS I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE GOVERNOR HAS, UH, PROPOSED A, A PROPERTY TAX REFORM PLAN, UH, EARLIER THIS YEAR, UH, WHICH WILL, I THINK, START THE CONVERSATION AT THE LEGISLATURE. IT CALLS FOR A 2.5% CAP, AND WE CALL IT A CAP, AS OPPOSED TO A ROLLBACK RATE, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THE 8% ROLLBACK RATE MEANS IF WE EXCEED THAT, THE PUBLIC CAN PETITION AND FORCE AN ELECTION TO ROLL IT BACK TO THE 8%. THIS WOULD PUT THE ONUS ON THE CITY. IF WE EXCEEDED 2.5%, WE WOULD HAVE TO HOLD AN ELECTION PROACTIVELY TO BE ABLE TO GET PERMISSION FROM THE VOTERS TO EXCEED 2.5%. AND THAT EXCEEDANCE, UH, WOULD ONLY BE, WOULD BE LIMITED. IT WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. NOT ALL PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, COMPENSATION, UH, AND IT WOULD BE FOR CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE. THOSE WOULD BE THE REASONS WE COULD EXCEED 2.5% REVENUE GROWTH. IT WOULD REQUIRE A SUPER MAJORITY OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO, TO HOLD CALL AN ELECTION. AND A SUPER MAJORITY MEANING TWO THIRDS VOTE OF THE VOTERS TO APPROVE IT. AND THAT TWO THIRDS SUPER MAJORITY REQUIREMENT ALSO EXTENDS TO FUTURE BOND, WOULD EXTEND TO FUTURE BOND PROGRAMS. SO TWO THIRDS OF THE VOTERS GOING FORWARD, IF THIS WERE TO TO BE PASSED, WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE A BOND ISSUANCE AS OPPOSED TO THE SIMPLE MAJORITY THAT EXISTS TODAY. SO, UH, THE SECOND ITEM, AND I'LL BE FASTER WITH THESE, IS, UH, ABOUT OUR PUBLIC UTILITIES. WE ALL KNOW WE'RE VERY BLESSED HERE TO HAVE, UH, TO OWN C P S ENERGY AND THE SAN ANTONIO WATER SYSTEM. UH, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THE TAXPAYER'S INVESTMENT IN THOSE UTILITIES IS PROTECTED. THERE'S A DISCUSSION GOING ON AT THE LEGISLATURE ABOUT, UH, MUNICIPALLY OWNED UTILITIES. AND PAULA GOLD WILLIAMS FROM C P S, UH, GAVE EXCELLENT TESTIMONY. UH, AT THE INTERIM HEARING THIS SUMMER. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS REALLY BEEN TO OUR BENEFIT IS THAT THE MUNICIPALLY OWNED UTILITIES IN THE STATE HAVE BEEN WHAT HAVE PROPPED UP THE ENERGY GRID ACROSS TEXAS DURING, UH, THE REAL STRESSFUL MONTHS IN TERMS OF, UH, UH, ENERGY USE. UH, SO, UH, THERE'S ALSO BEEN [02:05:01] DISCUSSION LOCALLY ABOUT DIVERTING, UH, THE, ESSENTIALLY THE CITY'S RETURN ON ITS INVESTMENT IN THIS UTILITY SO MANY YEARS AGO. AND, UH, WE RECOMMEND STRONG OPPOSITION TO THAT. UH, THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT, UH, GOES TO THE CITY BECAUSE OF, UH, THE OWNERSHIP AND LIABILITY THAT THE CITY, UH, HAS IN OWNING THIS UTILITY, AND ALSO IS IN LIEU OF PROPERTY TAXES AND RIGHT OF WAY FEES THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE COLLECTED BY THE CITY OF C P S. WE'RE A PRIVATE UTILITY, AND THIS IS, UH, A A LITTLE BIT BROADER CATEGORY ABOUT PRESERVING LOCAL DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY. UH, IN A NUTSHELL, A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE UP, UH, AT THE CAPITOL DEFENDING IS THE ABILITY OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO PASS ORDINANCES THAT YOU FEEL ARE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS, UH, AS OPPOSED TO STATEWIDE PREEMPTIONS. UM, WE LIVE IN A, A HOME RULE ENVIRONMENT WHERE CITIES OF OUR SIZE ARE GIVEN THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE DECISIONS AS AN ELECTED BODY. BUT IN RECENT YEARS, UH, STATE OF SOME STATE OFFICIALS WHO HAVE NOT LIKED DECISIONS THAT LOCAL OFFICIALS HAVE MADE, HAVE SEEN IT AS THEIR INTEREST TO, TO PREEMPT. AND SO SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WE EXPECT, YOU ASKED COUNCILMAN PERRY ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS WILL CERTAINLY BE ONE THAT WILL WE EXPECT TO COME UP. UH, TREE ORDINANCES, POTENTIALLY. AGAIN, THE CITY'S EXISTING PAYDAY LENDING ORDINANCE, UH, THERE ARE ALWAYS ISSUES RELATED TO EMINENT DOMAIN AND VESTED RIGHTS, AND ESSENTIALLY DIALING BACK HOW THE CITY CAN REGULATE DEVELOPMENT. UH, AND THEN EVEN BALLOT LANGUAGE, UH, REQUIRING, UH, PAGES AND PAGES OF INFORMATION ABOUT PER CAPITA DEBT AND SO FORTH BEING PUT ON, UH, BOND MEASURES THAT ARE PUT BEFORE THE VOTERS. UH, THE NEXT ITEM, EXCUSE ME, UM, IS SUPPORT FOR MILITARY CITY U S A. UM, AND THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT ONE BECAUSE FOR MANY YEARS, THE, UH, DEFENSE ECONOMIC ADJUSTMENT ASSISTANT GRANT ASSISTANCE GRANT PROGRAM WENT UNFUNDED BY THE LEGISLATURE WHEN BUDGETS WERE TIGHT. AND, UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, OUR CITY CAME TOGETHER WITH THE, UH, 15 OTHER COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE STATE THAT HAVE MILITARY BASES AND FORMED AN ALLIANCE TO GO LEGISLATE, UH, TO GO, UH, ADVOCATE FOR MONEY BEING PUT BACK INTO THAT FUND. UH, WE WERE SUCCESSFUL, UH, IN SEEING AN APPROPRIATION OF 30,000,002 SESSIONS AGO AND 20 MILLION LAST SESSION. AND OF THAT $50 MILLION POT, SAN ANTONIO HAS SUCCESSFULLY DRAWN DOWN, UM, UH, HAS SUCCESSFULLY DRAWN DOWN JUST UNDER 15 MILLION OF THE 50 MILLION THOSE HAVE BEEN TO CONNECT ALL OF OUR BASES TO THE SAWS WATER SYSTEM FOR BACKUP WATER, UH, FOR BEXAR COUNTY TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY AROUND, UH, RANDOLPH, TO IM PREVENT ENCROACHMENT THERE. AND MOST RECENTLY FOR PORT SAN ANTONIO TO DO, UH, IMPROVEMENTS AT ITS AIRFIELD. ITS, UH, TRAFFIC CONTROL TOWER, AND IT'S, UH, LANDING, UH, RUNWAY. AND I WANNA GO BACK JUST A SECOND, UH, BECAUSE ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS IS THE, THE MILITARY CAN'T, UH, TYPICALLY, WELL, THEY CAN'T AT ALL, UH, ADVOCATE ON POLITICAL ISSUES. THEY DON'T GO UP TO THE CAPITOL AND SAY, WE'RE FOR OR AGAINST THIS ISSUE OR THAT ISSUE. THEY COMMUNICATE TO US THROUGH OUR OFFICE OF MILITARY AFFAIRS, THROUGH JUAN'S TEAM, ABOUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM. AND WE SEE IT AS AN OBLIGATION ON OUR PART TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT THEIR INVESTMENT HERE AND THEIR ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO SURVIVE AND TRAIN HERE. SO, OUR SUPPORT OF THE MILITARY AT THE CAPITOL IS CRUCIALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE SPEAK, UH, SOMETIMES FOR THE MILITARY WHEN THEY CAN'T. UH, NEXT ITEM IS A BROADER CATEGORY AS WELL ABOUT KEEPING THE CITY COMPETITIVE. THIS INCLUDES OUR CONTINUED VIABILITY TO BE ABLE TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES AND MAJOR SPORTING EVENTS LIKE THE FINAL FOUR, UH, SUPPORTS THE CONTINUATION OF, UH, LOCAL AND STATE INCENTIVES WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO RECRUIT CORPORATIONS HERE. THE, UH, CHAPTER THREE 12, THE PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT STATUTE IS UP FOR SUNSET THIS YEAR. SO FOR, IN ORDER FOR THAT TO CONTINUE, THE LEGISLATURE WILL HAVE TO TAKE ACTION, AND WE CERTAINLY SUPPORT THAT. UH, AND THEN ALSO THE MAJOR EVENTS REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM, WHICH IS THE FORMER TRUST FUND. UH, WE DRAW UPON AND RECEIVE REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE STATE WHEN WE HOST MAJOR, UH, EVENTS LIKE THE FINAL FOUR, AND THERE'S OFTEN EFFORTS TO TRY TO ELIMINATE THAT PROGRAM, WHICH WE WOULD RECOMMEND OPPOSITION TO. AND THEN FINALLY, THAT SIXTH PRIORITY ABOUT TRANSPORTATION FUNDING REALLY COMES DOWN TO TWO THINGS. WE WOULD SUPPORT ANY LEGISLATION THAT WOULD ALLOW LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS AND OR THE VOTERS OF THIS COMMUNITY TO CONSIDER ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES TO GENERATE NEW SOURCES OF FUNDING FOR TRANSPORTATION, WHETHER IT'S STREET SIDEWALKS, TRANSIT, UH, OR OTHER ISSUES. AND THEN SECONDLY, WE SUPPORT EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION OF STATE FUNDING TO MAKE SURE SAN ANTONIO'S GETTING ITS SHARE AND THE CONTINUED FULL FUNDING OF PROPS ONE AND SEVEN. THOSE ARE THE TWO PROPOSITIONS THAT WERE PASSED [02:10:01] STATEWIDE, THAT CREATED NEW REVENUE STREAMS FOR THE STATE, FOR TRANSPORTATION. THEY BENEFITED OUR COMMUNITY TREMENDOUSLY. AND THERE'S ALREADY TALK FROM SOME LEGISLATORS ABOUT LETTING THEM EXPIRE WHEN THEIR SUNSETS COME UP SIX AND NINE YEARS FROM NOW. SO WE WOULD BE OPPOSED TO THAT IN SUPPORTIVE RECOMMEND SUPPORTING CONTINUATION OF THOSE FUNDING SOURCES. I'LL MOVE MORE QUICKLY THROUGH THESE. SO THE ONLY INITIATIVE WE'RE PROPOSING HERE IS, UH, A REVISION TO THE LAW THAT WOULD ALLOW CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO CARRY BITE STICKS FOR PROTECTION FROM ANIMALS WHEN THEY'RE IN THE FIELD DOING THEIR JOB. THERE IS A, UH, A PROHIBITION IN STATE LAW AGAINST CARRYING CLUBS, UH, IN PUBLIC, AND THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS TO THAT FOR PEACE OFFICERS, FOR MILITARY PERSONNEL AND SO FORTH, ANIMAL CON CONTROL. UH, BUT CODE ENFORCEMENT IS NOT INCLUDED UNDER THAT. SO WE'D LIKE TO SEE THAT WE GOT IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH BOTH CHAMBERS LAST SESSION AND THE CLOCK RAN OUT ON IT. SO WE FEEL LIKE THERE'S A RELATIVELY GOOD CHANCE FOR SUCCESS IN, IN BRINGING THAT, AGAIN, UNDER OUR ENDORSEMENT SECTION. IT'S FOUR CATEGORIES, UH, PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, EDUCATION, AND OUR AIRPORT PUBLIC SAFETY IS, UH, ANYTHING THAT HELPS US FULFILL OUR VISION ZERO COMMITMENTS, INCLUDING ALLOWING, UH, UH, LESSENING SOME OF THE RESTRICTIONS TO LOWERING SPEED LIMITS IN CERTAIN AREAS. UH, AND ALSO, UM, BY PROVIDING, USING TECHNOLOGY TO, UH, CATCH SPEEDERS IN SCHOOL ZONES. ALL THINGS THAT NEED STATE AUTHORITY FOR US TO DO. UH, WE SUPPORT ANY FUNDING OR PROGRAMS THAT WILL HELP US CONTINUE TO MAKE PROGRESS ON OUR AIR QUALITY AND GET BACK IN ATTAINMENT. UH, WE SUPPORT FUNDING FOR THE PREVENTION AND TREATMENT OF OPIOIDS. YOU ALL FAMILIAR WITH THAT DISCUSSION LAST WEEK? I BELIEVE TWO WEEKS AGO? UH, WE RECOMMEND SUPPORTING, UH, LEGISLATION THAT WOULD HELP, UH, PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS, UH, ADDRESS ISSUES. THIS PRIMARILY SPEAKS TO MATERNAL MORTALITY AND THE ABILITY OF OUR LOCAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO GATHER, UH, COLLECT DATA FROM HOSPITALS THAT HELP THEM IN, UH, ADDRESSING THE ISSUE. THERE ARE ALWAYS ISSUES RELATED TO ANIMAL CARE AND CONTROL THAT WE, UH, WE GENERALLY, UH, OUR, OUR DEPARTMENT WILL ASK US TO SUPPORT, UH, IN TERMS OF HELPING THEM WITH THEIR OPERATIONS. SO THERE'S A BROAD STATEMENT THERE. AND THEN, UH, WE'RE SUPPORTIVE, UH, VIS-A-VIS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OF LEGISLATION THAT WOULD CREATE A STATE OFFENSE FOR MALE THEFT. IT'S A FEDERAL OFFENSE. I THINK YOU ALL HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE. UH, DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE AS A FEDERAL OFFENSE, AND, UH, CERTAINLY WOULD BE WELCOME TO SEEING IT AS A STATE OFFENSE, AS A, UH, PROTECTION OF, UH, PEOPLE, UH, FROM IDENTITY THEFT. SO, I WANNA TAKE A SECOND ON, ON THIS ONE. UM, THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE COUNCIL COMMITTEE HAS EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN, IN DOING WHAT IT CAN TO ADDRESS, UH, GUN REFORM, GUN SAFETY IN PARTICULAR. UH, MOST OF THE, UH, DISCUSSION HAS BEEN FOCUSED LOCALLY, BUT THERE'S ONLY, THERE ARE LIMITATIONS ON WHAT CAN BE DONE LOCALLY, MOSTLY BECAUSE WE'RE PREEMPTED BY STATE LAW IN TERMS OF REGULATING GUN USE. THAT SAID, UH, THE GOVERNOR AFTER THE SHOOTINGS IN SUTHERLAND SPRINGS IN SANTA FE, UH, RELEASED A 40 SOME PAGE PLAN EARLIER THIS YEAR THAT MOSTLY FOCUSED ON SCHOOLS, BUT IT HAD FIVE ITEMS AT THE END THAT WERE BROADER THAN THAT. AND SO WE'VE, UH, AS WE DISCUSSED THIS AT THE I G R COMMITTEE, WE LEFT A PLACEHOLDER FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE TO WEIGH IN ON THESE ITEMS. UH, AND THEN FOR US TO PUT THEM IN THERE, I THINK THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE SORT OF KICKED IT BACK TO I G R AND WANTED US TO HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION THERE. SO I JUST WANTED TO LAY THESE OUT FOR YOU. AND, AND THIS WOULD BE THE LOOSE END THAT WE'LL DISCUSS AT I G R NEXT WEEK. BUT ESSENTIALLY, THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE TO CREATE A, A, UH, COURT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM FOR JUDGES. SO WHEN THEY ARE, UH, SETTING BONDS AND PENALTIES, THEY CAN LOOK INTO A SYSTEM AND SEE BACKGROUND CHECKS ACROSS THE STATE. THAT DOESN'T EXIST TODAY. WE, AS A LARGE CITY, DO PAY INTO AN INFORMATION DATABASE, BUT A LOT OF SMALLER AREAS DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THAT. SO THIS WOULD HELP IN THAT ARENA. UH, THE SECOND IS, UH, THE LEGISLATURE LOOKING AT CREATING A, A RED FLAG LAW, ESSENTIALLY A PROTECTIVE ORDER FOR SOMEONE WHO IS POTENTIALLY DEEMED THROUGH MENTAL HEALTH REASONS TO BE A DANGER, ESSENTIALLY SEPARATING THEM FROM THEIR FIREARM FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, UH, WHILE DUE PROCESS CAN BE CONDUCTED, ESSENTIALLY PROTECTING THE PUBLIC. THAT'S A ISSUE THAT THE GOVERNOR'S ASKED THE LEGISLATURE TO LOOK AT. I DON'T THINK THEY'LL ACT THE SESSION. I THINK THEY MAY STUDY IT IN THE NEXT INTERIM, BUT, BUT WE'LL SEE. THE THIRD IS TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, ANY ADJUDICATION AFFECTING THE RIGHT TO PURCHASE OR POSSESS A FIREARM IS REPORTED WITHIN 48 HOURS. SOME OF THE SHOOTINGS IN RECENT HISTORY HAVE INVOLVED SITUATIONS WHERE SOMEONE HAD BEEN, UH, RECEIVED PUNISHMENT IN THE PAST, BUT IT HADN'T BEEN UPDATED INTO A SYSTEM AND THEREFORE WASN'T ACCESSIBLE, UH, FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT. THE [02:15:01] FOURTH IS TO STRENGTHEN THE FIREARM STORAGE LAW, UH, TO EXTEND THE AGE TO 18. IF THERE'S A, SOMEONE UNDER THE AGE OF 18 IN THE HOUSE, UH, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO STORE THE FIREARM. AND RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A REQUIREMENT THAT THAT GUN BE LOADED IF IT'S USED TO, UM, UH, TO CAUSE BODILY HARM, THAT IT HAD TO HAVE BEEN LOADED AND BE READY, ESSENTIALLY FOR DISCHARGE, IN ORDER FOR THE PERSON WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN STORING IT TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. THE GOVERNOR'S PLAN CALLS FOR REMOVING THAT REQUIREMENT. IT'S DIFFICULT TO KNOW WHETHER A GUN WAS LOADED OR SOMEBODY LOADED IT. UH, AND IT'S JUST A, UM, AN EXTRA STEP IN THE INVESTIGATIVE PROCESS. AND THE LAST ONE IS A MANDATORY REPORTING OF LOST OR STOLEN GUNS. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT. NOW, IF A GUN IS LOST OR STOLEN TO REPORT THAT. AND THIS WOULD REQUIRE, UH, TO DO SO WITHIN 10 DAYS. SO THOSE ARE THE ITEMS OUTSIDE OF SCHOOLS THAT ARE, UH, PART OF THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL ON, ON GUN SAFETY. FINALLY, I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON, UH, A COUPLE OTHER QUICK ITEMS. AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, VERY BROAD STATEMENT ABOUT SUPPORTING LEGISLATION THAT ALLOWS FOR, UH, REALLY ANY FLEXIBILITY, UH, UH, FLEXIBLE OR INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS AND OR FUNDING THAT HELPS, UH, INCREASE THE SUPPLY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THAT COULD TAKE ANY SHAPE AT THIS POINT, BUT WE UNDERSTAND AND RECOGNIZE IT'S A PRIORITY OF THE CITY. UH, AND THEN UNDER THE EDUCATION CATEGORY, WE SUPPORT MAKING SURE THAT HEAD START CHILDREN ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE CHILDCARE SUBSIDY THAT THE STATE PROVIDES. THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY THE CASE. WE WOULD RECOMMEND SUPPORTING A FULL DAY FUNDING FOR PRE-K. THE STATE ONLY FUNDS HALF DAY TODAY. AND AS YOU KNOW, PRE-K FOR SA IS A FULL DAY PROGRAM AND PUT IN PLACE IN PART TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE GAPS AT THE STATE LEVEL. AND THEN THE THIRD PIECE IS, UH, UH, MORE FUNDING FORMULA FUNDING, UH, AND, UH, BONDING AUTHORITY FOR COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND, AND HIGHER EDUCATION FACILITIES TOO, UH, TO BUILD NEW, UH, FACILITIES. OUR AIRPORT, UH, IS INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO GATHER THE DATA NECESSARY TO CHARGE, UH, A REASONABLE FEE IN REGULATING TNCS. THE TNC LAW THAT PASSED LAST SESSION GAVE AIRPORTS THE RIGHT TO CONTINUE TO REGULATE T N C TRAFFIC ON THEIR PROPERTY AND TO CHARGE A REASONABLE FEE. BUT GATHERING THE DATA ABOUT HOW MANY TRIPS ARE COMING TO THE AIRPORT HAS NOT BEEN EASY FROM SOME OF THE PROVIDERS. AND SO WE'D LIKE, UH, TO SEEK A CLARIFICATION OR SUPPORT A CLARIFICATION THERE TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE DATA TO BE ABLE TO EXECUTE ON WHAT'S AUTHORIZED UNDER THE LAW. OUR, UH, OMNIBUS STATEMENT BASICALLY SAYS THAT THE CITY WOULD SUPPORT LEGISLATION THAT CLEARLY BENEFITS THE CITY AND OPPOSES LEGISLATION THAT WOULD BE CLEARLY DETRIMENTAL, INCLUDING UNDERMINING THE PRINCIPLES OF SELF-GOVERNMENT, MANDATING AN INCREASED COST TO THE CITY, UH, CAUSING A LOSS OF REVENUE TO THE CITY, OR REDUCING THE, UH, OR DIMINISHING THE FUNDAMENTAL AUTHORITY OF THE CITY TO, UH, CARRY OUT THE WISHES AND NEEDS OF ITS COMMUNITY. AND I'LL SAY THAT AS ISSUES COME UP, WE PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL THROUGHOUT THE SESSION, UH, TYPICALLY EVERY OTHER WEEK. UH, SO, SO ITEMS THAT COME UP THAT ARE NOT ANTICIPATED, WE TALK ABOUT BOTH AT THE I G R LEVEL AND AT THE FULL COUNCIL LEVEL. BUT, BUT THIS BROAD STATEMENT ALLOWS US, UH, GENERAL AUTHORITY TO LOOK OUT FOR THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST. AND, AND SOMETIMES AMENDMENTS COME UP WITHOUT ANY TIME FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. WE TRY TO FOLLOW THE DIRECTION THAT YOU, AS A COUNCIL HAVE GIVEN US, UH, AS WE TAKE, UH, POSITIONS ON ISSUES UP THERE. AND THEN THE LAST PIECE IS OUR PARTNERSHIPS. UH, OUR PUBLIC UTILITIES AT THE TOP, AND THEN MANY OF THE OTHER GOVERNMENT ENTITIES IN TOWN, AS WELL AS OUR, UH, HIGHER LEARNING INSTITUTIONS, OUR CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE. UH, AND AGAIN, GENERALLY, UH, SO LONG AS THEIR NEEDS DON'T CONFLICT WITH OURS, WE, WE, UH, WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM TO HELP ADVANCE OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. SO GOING FORWARD, I MENTIONED ELECTION DAY IS NOVEMBER 6TH. THE PRE-FILING BEGINS SIX DAYS AFTER THAT. THE LEGISLATURE WILL CONVENE JANUARY 8TH, UH, AND THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS WILL BE SETTING RULES AND THEN ELECTING A HOUSE SPEAKER. AND THEN THE HOUSE SPEAKER AND THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR DOLE OUT THEIR COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS, THEIR CHAIRMANSHIPS AND, AND, UH, OTHER ASSIGNMENTS. AND THEN THE LAST DAY THAT MEMBERS CAN FILE BILLS IS MIDWAY THROUGH THE SESSION MARCH 8TH. THE SESSION ENDS MAY 27TH, AND THEN THE GOVERNOR HAS A ROUGHLY THREE WEEK PERIOD TO SIGN OR VETO BILLS THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE BEFORE THE WHOLE PROCESS COMES TO AN END. SO THAT WAS A LOT, AND I APPRECIATE YOU BEARING WITH ME AND, AND, UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, JEFF. AND TEAM, UM, CHRISTINE, MEGAN, VERY MUCH FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU ALL DO THERE. [02:20:01] I THANK YOU TWO, OUR, OUR LOBBY TEAM UP IN AUSTIN. WE HAVE A LOT OF MOVING PIECES RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY 'CAUSE WE DUNNO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND WHO'S GOING TO BE SITTING IN WHAT COMMITTEES RIGHT NOW AS WE MOVE FORWARD. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF MOVING PIECES. UM, BUT BEFORE I, UM, RELINQUISH IT OVER TO OUR CHAIRMAN, I DID WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT OCTOBER 9TH IS THE LAST DAY THAT YOU CAN REGISTER TO VOTE. AND THAT EARLY VOTING BEGINS ON OCTOBER 22ND AND NO, UM, NOVEMBER 6TH IS ELECTION DAY. SO IF YOU HAVEN'T REGISTERED TO VOTE, PLEASE DO BY NEXT WEEK OR, UH, VERY SOON. SO WITH THAT, UM, I'M GONNA PASS IT OVER TO OUR CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL MEMBER SALDANA. THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN. A PERTINENT REMINDER TO MANY OF US WHO WILL LIKELY COMPLAIN OR VOICE UP ABOUT THE RESULTS OF, OF BAD LEGISLATION OR BAD LEGISLATIVE MEMBERS WHO WE THINK, UH, IMPORTANT FOR US TO REGISTER AND, AND MAKE SURE THE VOTE. SO LEMME JUST SAY QUICKLY, UH, LEMME THANK OUR TEAM WHO'S HERE. UH, WE GOT, YOU KNOW, MARK RODRIGUEZ, MIKE OMEY, CARRIE SIMMONS, UH, ANDREW KEEFER, AND JESSE AND SARAH. UH, THESE ARE FOLKS WHO WE RELY ON TO HELP US AS WE CRAFT WHAT WE HOPE FOR THE, FOR THE, FOR THE ENTIRE TIME WE'VE BEEN CRAFTING THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. IT HAS BEEN, UH, IN PENCIL. AND WE WANT TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN HAVE A, A PRINTED FINAL COPY OF OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES. AND, AND I WANNA THANK MY, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO, WHO ARE ALL HERE PRESENT AND MAY HAVE SOME EXTRA QUESTIONS AS WE GET THROUGH THIS. BUT I DON'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING OTHER THAN I'M, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THERE'S FOLKS WHO ARE REPRESENTING TRANSPORTATION, WHO ARE HERE, WHO ARE REPRESENTING EDUCATION, UH, IMPORTANT PARTNERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO I THINK ALL NEED TO BE PART OF A, A, A A WELL SLUNG EFFORT THAT IS MARCHING UP TO AUSTIN IN, IN A SORT OF UNIFIED, UNIFIED VOICE TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN. 'CAUSE WE, WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE ON EVERY SINGLE ISSUE, BUT YOU'VE LISTED A FEW OF THE PARTNERS UP THERE WHO WE'VE TRIED TO TAP, UH, AND GET THEIR ADVICE. SO WITH OUR TEAM AND YOUR LEADERSHIP AND THE LEADERSHIP OF YOUR TEAM AS WELL, CHRISTINE AND MEGAN, UH, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT IS ALWAYS AN EVENTFUL, UH, SEASON DURING THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. EVERY OFF YEAR IS, UM, GAME TIME, IT SEEMS LIKE IN AUSTIN. BUT, UH, LET ME, UH, HAND IT BACK TO, TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE HERE, WHO MIGHT WANT TO CHIME IN. THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH THIS IN AT THE I G R, AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO ANY FEEDBACK OR QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, ADDITIONS, UH, AMENDMENTS OR EDITS, UH, BEFORE WE, WE GO FORWARD. THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. THANK YOU. UH, I NOTICED OR DIDN'T NOTICE ANY DISCUSSION WHEN IT CAME TO TAXES ABOUT, UH, FULL DISCLOSURE OF SALES PRICES FOR PROPERTY. UH, AND I KNOW THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A BIT OF AN ISSUE. I MEAN, THE BIGGEST PROPERTY PROP TAX PROBLEM WE HAVE IS VALUATIONS. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT WHAT WE CHARGE AS A RATE, IT'S NOT WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS CHARGE, IT'S THE PROPERTY VALUES. AND, UH, AS I THINK WE UNDERSTAND, COMMERCIAL PROPERTY SIMPLY ISN'T BEING VALUED AT ITS TRUE VALUE FOR TAX PURPOSES. AND RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS ARE PICKING UP THE SLACK, AND IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR YEARS. UH, WHAT, UH, I DIDN'T SEE THAT ON ANYONE'S LIST. AND WHY NOT? UM, THE APPRAISAL PROCESS IS A COMPLICATED ONE. AND THE NOT, NOT THE PROCESS. THE, UH, THE STATUTE IS A COMPLICATED ONE. AND, AND, UH, BILLS HAVE BEEN FILED IN PAST SESSIONS THAT COULD BE, UH, BENEFICIAL, THAT COULD BE DETRIMENTAL. THERE'S BEEN MAJOR FOR REFORMS PRO PROPOSED THAT HAVE NOT PASSED. UM, I THINK OUTSIDE OF THAT, UM, THE, THE, UH, YOU'VE SAID IT RIGHT, WE DON'T CONTROL THE VALUES, WE CONTROL THE RATE PIECE. AND SO I THINK IN PAST YEARS WE'VE DECIDED IT WASN'T OUR, UH, AREA TO STEP IN AND SAY, THIS IS HOW THE VALUATION SHOULD BE DONE. UM, THE SALES PRICE DISCLOSURE IS SOMETHING THAT HAS COME UP IN PAST SESSIONS. IT'S NOT GOTTEN A LOT OF TRACTION AT THE LEGISLATURE. UM, AND OBVIOUSLY I THINK FOR EVERYBODY TO KNOW, IT ESSENTIALLY MEANS THAT WHEN YOU SELL A PROPERTY, YOU HAVE TO DISCLOSE THAT PRICE TO THE TAXING ENTITY SO THAT THEY HAVE, UH, THAT MUCH MORE INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO VALUE OTHER PROPERTIES. UH, SO YOU'RE RIGHT, WE HAVEN'T PROPOSED IT. UM, AND YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE CERTAINLY OPEN TO JUST CONSIDERATION ABOUT THAT'S, WELL, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU MY OPINION. MY OPINION IS IF THE CITIES DON'T STAND UP AND DEMAND EQUALIZATION WHEN IT COMES TO VALUATIONS OF PROPERTIES, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE STATE SAYING WE ARE TAXING TOO MUCH AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE TAXING TOO MUCH, UH, WHEN IN FACT WE'RE TAXING FAIRLY BASED ON THE, THE VALUES THAT WE GET MM-HMM. . AND WE'RE SIMPLY NOT PROPERLY VALUING ALL THE PROPERTIES IN TEXAS. AND, AND I THINK THE CITIES AND THE COUNTIES NEED TO STAND UP AND, AND MAKE THAT A MAJOR ISSUE. WE NEED TO BE TELLING OUR LEGISLATORS THAT THAT'S AN ISSUE. AND THE OTHER CITIES [02:25:01] AND STATES, I MEAN, THE OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES SHOULD BE DOING THE SAME THING. THAT WAS AN OPINION. UH, YOU BROUGHT UP ON PAGE, UH, 15, I THINK IT WAS, UH, ABOUT, UM, TAX INCREASES. AND, UH, HOW, IF WE GO BEYOND 8%, I THINK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN FEAR OF, UM, HAVING AN ELECTION THAT CAN BE HELD, UH, HOW MANY SIGNATURES ARE NEEDED, UH, TO ROLL BACK A GREATER THAN 8% TAX INCREASE IF THE CITY EVER DID THAT. DO YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT OUR ATTORNEYS HERE. I'M NOT SURE IF WE KNOW THAT OFF TOP. IS IT A TO TO FORCE A ROLLBACK ELECTION? IS IT THE SAME THRESHOLD AS A REFERENDUM? I, I, WELL, THAT'D BE SOMETHING IM IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE IF THEY LOWER IT TO 6% OR 5% OR, AND IT, AND IT BECOMES REAL ISSUE FOR US, IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHAT IS THAT NUMBER? I, I'VE THOUGHT I HEARD THAT IT'S 20,000, UH, BUT I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. SO I, I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW THAT. YEAH, I, BUT I WILL ADD THAT WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, AT THE LEGISLATURE ARE, IS A CHANGE TO THE, TO THE PROCESS ALTOGETHER. WOULDN'T BE A ROLLBACK. IN OTHER WORDS, THERE WOULDN'T BE A REQUIREMENT OF ANY SIGNATURES. IT WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT OF US. RIGHT. IF WE WERE TO GO ABOVE THAT PERCENTAGE TO TO GET PERMISSION. HOLD AN ELECTION. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. TO GET PERMISSION. I UNDERSTAND. UM, ALSO IN OUR, OUR LIST OF, UH, THINGS WE'RE PRESERVING, YOU DIDN'T MENTION TOBACCO 21 OR PAID SICK LEAVE. ARE THOSE TARGETS, DO YOU THINK, AT THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE? WELL, UM, GOOD QUESTION ABOUT TOBACCO 21. I'M NOT SURE. UM, I, IT IT STANDS TO REASON THAT IT COULD BE ONE OF THOSE ISSUES THAT THE STATE SAYS THEY SHOULD WEIGH IN ON IF THEY DON'T LIKE IT. HAVEN I HAVEN'T, BUT YOU HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING. I HAVEN'T A WHOLE LOT OF TALK ABOUT IT. UM, OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT WOULD LIKE US TO SUPPORT A STATEWIDE TOBACCO 21. I THINK IF THERE IS LEGISLATION THAT GOES FORWARD, THAT'S SOMETHING POTENTIALLY THAT WE COULD GET BEHIND. WE DIDN'T PUT IT IN THE PROGRAM BECAUSE A, A MAJOR THEME OF OUR AGENDA IS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, LOCAL CONTROL, LOCAL DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY. OUR COMMUNITY HAS SPOKEN AND TAKEN THAT ACTION AND PUT THAT ORDINANCE IN PLACE. WE DON'T NECESSARILY FEEL IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO PUSH IT ON ANOTHER COMMUNITY THAT DOESN'T WANT TO, UH, BUT IF MOVEMENT HAPPENS, UM, WE'VE TYPICALLY SAID WE SUPPORT THINGS THAT ALIGN WITH OUR, OUR ORDINANCE. UH, PAID SICK LEAVE, I THINK REALLY COMES DOWN TO WHAT SOLUTION GETS PUT ON THE TABLE. WE, WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, OUR PR OUR PRINCIPLE IS NOT TO GO UP THERE AND OPPOSE ANY SORT OF STATE PREEMPTION OF LOCAL LAW. THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES IN THE PAST WHEN THE STATE HAS GOTTEN TO A PLACE WHERE THE STATEWIDE REGULATION IS CLOSE ENOUGH TO OUR LOCAL ORDINANCE THAT, THAT WE CAN BACK OFF OPPOSING LIKE TREE ORDINANCE THAT WAS PASSED. EXACTLY. RIGHT. UH, AND, BUT WE WORKED TO MAKE SURE IT DIDN'T GO TOO FAR, DIDN'T WE? ON THE RIGHT, ON THE TREE ORDINANCE, LIKE STR UH, WE ARE ARE ABLE TO PROUDLY GO UP THERE AND SAY, WE'VE BALANCED THE RIGHTS OF DEVELOPERS AND THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE MILITARY WITH AN ORDINANCE THAT ALL STAKEHOLDERS HAVE SORT OF HELPED US FIND THE SWEET, SWEET SPOT. SO MY POINT IS, UM, I, IT'S A, A, A GIVEN THAT THE STATE WILL ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS THE PAID SICK LEAVE ISSUE, HOW THEY DO IT, AND WHAT THE STATEWIDE FRAMEWORK MIGHT LOOK LIKE, WE JUST DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT. SO, SO WE DIDN'T PUT IT IN THERE, BUT WE ANTICIPATE TALKING WITH YOU ALL, UH, AS THE SESSION UNFOLDS AND WE SEE WHAT'S BEEN, I JUST KNOW YOU NAMED A FEW THAT YOU THOUGHT MIGHT BE TYPICAL TARGETS, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE THINKING ABOUT WATCHING OUT FOR THOSE TWO. MM-HMM. , THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. COURAGE. COUNCILMAN VERAN. THANK YOU. UM, I DO HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS, UM, ABOUT SLIDE NUMBER 29. I WAS ABLE TO HEAR A LITTLE, I WAS ABLE TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION AT PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING AND THE GOVERNOR'S SCHOOL AND FIREARM SAFETY ACTION PLAN. I THINK THESE ARE COMMON SENSE AND VERY BASIC THINGS THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH, AND IT'S ALREADY SOMETHING THAT THE GOVERNOR HAS HIMSELF MOVED FORWARD WITH. SO I DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT IS HARMFUL ABOUT US, INCLUDING THIS INTO OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. AND I GUESS WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THIS NEXT WEEK AT I G R. THAT'S CORRECT. I DID WANT TO GO THROUGH THEM IN DETAIL THOUGH, SO THE WHOLE COUNCIL HEARD THEM. IF THERE WERE MAJOR CONCERNS THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO HEAR THEM RAISED. BUT YES, THE IDEA WOULD BE NEXT WEEK AT I G R. I THINK THAT WOULD JUST, YOU ALL COULD CONSIDER ADDING THEM TO THE PROGRAM. I THINK THIS WOULD JUST HELP WITH, UM, ADDING CLARIFICATION AND ALSO, UH, CLOSING SOME LOOPHOLES THAT HAD BEEN THERE BEFORE IN THE PAST. UM, ESPECIALLY WITH THE 48 HOUR REQUIREMENT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAD ALSO LEARNED WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE, UH, THAT BACKGROUND CHECKS [02:30:01] AND THE INFORMATION REPORTING, BECAUSE A LOT OF SMALLER TOWNS MAY NOT GET THAT. SO PEOPLE IN THE LARGER TOWNS KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING. SO I THINK THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT THING THAT WE, UM, CLOSE THAT LOOPHOLE, UM, MOVING FORWARD. UM, AND I DO THINK THE, THE CHAIRMAN AND OTHERS FOR REALLY COMING AND SINGING ON THE SAME SHEET OF MUSIC WHEN IT COMES TO OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND PUBLIC SCHOOL FINANCING, I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO TALK TO, UM, STATE SENATOR ELECT FLORES ABOUT IS HE IS LOOKING AT THE, UH, THE PROPERTY APPRAISAL SYSTEM AND THE FORMULA, IF YOU WILL. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HE DOES WANT TAKE A LOOK AT IN HIS ROLE, BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR FROM CONSTITUENTS. SO, UM, IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HE'S GOING TO LOOK FORWARD, I THINK THAT WILL, WHAT WILL BEAR FRUIT FOR US IS TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH HIM TO SEE WHERE IS HE GOING WITH IT THOUGH. MM-HMM. , THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN VIRON. COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL. THANK YOU MAYOR. UH, THANK YOU JEFF, FOR YOUR VERY THOROUGH PRESENTATION. I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT OF DETAILS YOU, YOU HAD TO HOLD BACK ON. YEAH. UM, UH, AND I WANNA THANK YOUR WHOLE TEAM AND THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS OF I G R FOR FORMULATING THIS AND, AND BRINGING IT FORWARD. I DO THINK IT'S EX VERY REFLECTIVE OF WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE. UM, AND IT, IT SEEMS YOU HAVE A VERY IMPRESSIVE TEAM. UM, I, I WISH SOME OF THEM WOULD CONSIDER COMING TO WORK FOR ME, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S EVER VERY IMPRESSIVE TEAM. UM, UH, I'M REALLY GLAD TO SEE THE CHANGE OF, UH, TRANSPORTATION FROM ENDORSEMENTS ONTO, UH, PRIMARY, UM, IN PARTICULAR THE FLEXIBILITY TO REDUCE SPEED LIMITS. THAT'S WHAT I HEAR, UH, A LOT, UH, FROM MY CONSTITUENTS ABOUT. UH, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D RECOMMEND TO HAVE CONSTITUENTS, UH, HELP US WITH THIS? UH, SURE. AS, AS ISSUES COME UP, UM, WE ABSOLUTELY, WE WANT, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT UP THERE JUST DEFENDING THE CITY ORGANIZATION. WE'RE THERE DEFENDING THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU ALL REPRESENT. AND SO, UH, I I, I'M A LITTLE, I'M A LITTLE, ACTUALLY A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED THAT A LOT OF THE S T R FOLKS AREN'T HEARING THIS BECAUSE ALL THE WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO THAT, UH, COULD BE UNDONE. IT COULD BE UNDONE IN A WAY THAT PROVIDES A REALLY GOOD STATEWIDE FRAMEWORK OR NOT. UH, SO THEY NEED TO BE INVOLVED. SO I THINK WE WILL TAKE THAT AS A INVITATION TO BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO YOU ALL IN YOUR OFFICES AND HELP GET CONSTITUENTS INVOLVED AT, AT THE RIGHT TIMES DURING THE SESSION. WE TYPICALLY WILL DO THAT. WE'LL ORGANIZE PEOPLE TO GO UP AND SPEAK. UM, ON THE SPEED LIMIT PIECE, IF I COULD JUST TAKE THAT FOR A MINUTE. UM, RIGHT NOW, UH, THE STATE LAW IS THAT ANYWHERE IN AN URBAN AREA THAT IT'S NOT POSTED, IT'S A 30 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT. IT'S CALLED THE PRIMA, UH, FACE C SPEED LIMIT, PRIMA FASCIA SPEED LIMIT, UM, UH, VISION ZERO, UH, AS A NATIONWIDE, UH, UH, EFFORT HAS CALLED FOR LOWERING THOSE RESIDENT THOSE SPEED LIMITS, UH, TO 25 AT A MINIMUM. UM, WE CAN DO THAT NOW IN, IN SPOT WAYS. WE COULD LOWER THE SPEED LIMIT BY DOING A TRAFFIC STUDY AND BY PUTTING UP SIGNAGE. BUT AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY, THERE'S 4,000 MILES OF STREETS IN THIS COMMUNITY. UH, IT'S EXPENSIVE. AND, AND THAT'S NOT A, THAT'S A RIFLE SHOT SORT OF SOLUTION. AND SO WE WENT TO, UH, COUNCILMAN SNIA AND CHRISTINE AND I WERE AT T M L A GATHERING OF ABOUT 300 CITIES A, A MONTH OR SO AGO. AND WE PROPOSED TO EVERYONE THAT THEY GET BEHIND THE IDEA OF CHANGING THAT DEFAULT SPEED LIMIT TO 25, SAVING US ALL FROM HAVING TO POST AND, AND BE ABLE TO, UM, BE ABLE TO SAVE LIVES IN THE PROCESS. A LOT OF CITIES JOINED ON WITH US AND SAID THEY WANTED TO SEE IT DONE, A FEW DIDN'T. AND GOING BACK TO THE THEME OF, OF EVERYBODY HAVING THE RIGHT TO MAKE CHOICES ABOUT WHAT'S BEST FOR THEIR COMMUNITY, WE DIDN'T WANT TO FORCE IT, TRY TO FORCE A STATEWIDE CHANGE ON EVERYONE. SO WHERE WE ARE NOW IS THAT HOUSTON, DALLAS, AUSTIN, AND SAN ANTONIO ARE ALL POTENTIALLY INTERESTED, ASSUMING YOU ALL GIVE US THE DIRECTION TO BE, UH, IN, IN SEEING THAT DEFAULT SPEED LIMIT LOWERED FROM 30 TO 25. AND SO WE'RE PROPOSING WORKING WITH THOSE OTHER BIG CITIES TO GO, UH, BRACKET A BILL, UH, TO WHERE IT ONLY APPLIES TO US. AND THAT WAY SOMEONE COMING INTO A MAJOR CITY WOULD KNOW, UH, IN THEORY THAT THAT'S THE DEFAULT SPEED LIMIT, UH, IF NOT OTHERWISE POSTED. THANK YOU. UH, THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT NEWS. AND, UM, YES, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COME AND, AND ASK US FOR ASSISTANCE ON THAT. AND MY NEXT QUESTION WAS, WHICH OF THESE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE? SO I I THAT KIND OF HELPED. I THINK MOST THINGS THAT THE MUNICIPAL LEAGUE PLAYS EVEN MORE DEFENSE THAN WE DO HONESTLY, THEY'RE, THEY, UH, GENERALLY ARE LOOKING OUT FOR THE INTEREST OF THEIR 1200 [02:35:01] PLUS, UH, CITIES AND, UM, AND NOT OFTEN NOT ADVANCING LEGISLATION. SO THE THINGS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY IMPORTANT TO US, AIR QUALITY, FOR EXAMPLE, PRE-K UH, MAY NOT BE A PRIORITY FOR EVERY OTHER CITY, BUT CERTAINLY IF THE STATE WERE TO, UH, FORCE SOMETHING ONTO THEIR MEMBERS THAT WAS, UH, NOT DEEMED POSITIVE, THEN T M L WOULD ENGAGE IN THERE. WE, AFTER ALL OF OUR CITY COUNCILS APPROVE OUR AGENDAS, UM, UM, ALL THE CITIES UNDER T M L THAT HAVE DESIGNATED GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS TEAMS, MOST OF THE BIG CITIES, AND THEN A HANDFUL OF SMALLER ONES GATHER FOR A RETREAT IN EARLY JANUARY, WE, WHERE WE SHARE ALL OF OUR ISSUES AND, AND ENDED UP FINDING LIKE PLACES WHERE WE CAN TEAM UP AND WORK TOGETHER ON THINGS. DID YOU WANNA, I, I ALSO, I SEE ANDY HOVERING ON, THERE'S SOMETHING YOU WOULD'VE SAY, SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT COUNCILMAN. I WANTED TO ANSWER COUNCILMAN KURT'S QUESTION ON THE ROLLBACK PETITION. UH, THE SHORT ANSWER, COUNCILMAN, IT'S 7% OF REGISTERED VOTERS USING THE MOST RECENT REGISTERED VOTERS LIST. UH, RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO CONFIRM, BUT WE'RE ROUGHLY GUESSING THAT'S ABOUT 55,000. BUT THAT'S THE ANSWER, 7% OF THE REGISTERED VOTERS. THANK YOU. SORRY. THANKS AMY. NO PROBLEM. UM, I, I ALSO SAW SOMETHING ON THERE ABOUT, UH, BEING ABLE TO RAISE ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR, FOR TRANSPORTATION. UH, I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THAT, BUT I DO WANT US TO BE MINDFUL ABOUT WHAT STRATEGIES, UH, WE END UP RAISING MONEY FROM. IF, IF THAT IS SUCCESSFUL. UM, I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T WANNA SEE ANYTHING THAT'S REGRESSIVE, UH, END UP MOVING FORWARD. UM, YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAD THAT, UH, REPORT COME OUT ABOUT SAN ANTONIO BEING THE, YOU KNOW MM-HMM. HAVING SUCH A HIGH POVERTY RATE. SO, UM, I, IF WE COULD FIND OTHER WAYS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE PREFERABLE. AND I WAS ALSO GLAD TO SEE, UH, THAT WE'D BE SEEKING FUNDING FOR, UM, FOR AIR QUALITY. UH, PREVIOUSLY WE HAD A NEAR NON-ATTAINMENT FUNDING, RIGHT. UH, THAT CAME FROM, FROM THE STATE, BUT THAT WAS IN THE FORM OF A RIDER. IT WAS RIGHT. SO IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE ITS OWN, UH, ITS OWN BILL. IT WAS PART OF THE BUDGET BILL, BUT IT WAS, UM, IT WAS VETOED LAST SESSION BY THE GOVERNOR FOR THE FIRST TIME. MM-HMM. , UM, AND YOU'RE RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT IN THAT NEAR NON-ATTAINMENT CATEGORY ANYMORE. ANYWAY, IT WAS MONEY THAT WENT TO, PRIMARILY TO A ACOG TO DO AIR QUALITY, UH, MONITORING AND, UM, MODELING, THAT SORT OF THING. THERE ARE OTHER PROGRAMS TURP YOU, YOU KNOW, WELL, UM, ADMISSIONS REDUCTION PLAN. THERE, THERE ARE SOME LEGISLATORS, UH, USUALLY EACH SESSION WHO WANT TO TAKE MONEY AWAY FROM THAT PROGRAM AND REDIRECT IT TO SOMETHING ELSE. SO, UH, IN GENERAL WE'RE, WE WANT TO KEEP OUR EYES OUT FOR THINGS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BENEFIT US IN OUR, IN OUR EFFORTS TO GET BACK IN ENTERTAINMENT. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT STATEMENT IS INTENDED TO BE. ALRIGHT, GREAT. WELL, I'M ALSO GLAD TO SEE THE HEALTH, UH, ISSUES ON THERE. BEING ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO, TO INFORMATION THAT HELPS US HAVE MORE, UH, EFFECTIVE PROGRAMS. I KNOW THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH GETTING INFORMATION ON MATERNAL, UM, MORTALITY AND INFANT MORTALITY. SO HAVING THAT INFORMATION WILL BE VERY, VERY HELPFUL. THE STATE LAW, UH, UH, REQUIRES THAT THE LOCAL HEALTH AUTHORITY BE ALLOWED TO ACCESS DATA FOR FETAL, UH, INFANT MORTALITY, BUT NOT MATERNAL MORTALITY. SO THAT'S THE, UH, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS THAT WE SUPPORT THAT TO MAKE THAT CONSISTENT SO THAT THEY CAN GET THE INFORMATION THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS ISSUES. ALRIGHT. WELL I HOPE THAT GOES THROUGH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JEFF. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. NOW THAT'S OUR LAST SPEAKER. ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT. AND WE ARE PROPOSING TO SEE THIS ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA AFTER I G R NEXT WEEK, AND THEN THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT. WE ARE SCHEDULED TO HAVE IT ON A SESSION. MM-HMM. NEXT WEEK ON THE EIGHTH, 18TH, THE 18TH, I'M SORRY. YES. OH, TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY. TWO WEEKS, YES. AND WE DO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TODAY. OKAY. AND BEFORE WE MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR MY COLLEAGUES, UM, WE HAVE A VERY SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT TODAY. SOMEBODY IN THIS ROOM IS BEEN CELEBRATING OR HAS BEEN BLESSED ON THIS EARTH FOR FIVE DECADES. SO, UM, THAT'S, WE WANT TO, OH, AND FOUR OF THEM PROBABLY AT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, PETER ZONI, WITH A VERY WICKED WITT, UM, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU. AND IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO SING, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND SING TO HIM. BUT, UM, WE CAN DO THAT LATER. UM, BUT WITH THAT HAPPY BIRTHDAY. THANK YOU, . THE TIME IS NOW 4:49 PM ON THIS THIRD DAY OF OCTOBER, 2018. PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORITY GRANTED BY CHAPTER 5 5, 1 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE V T C S, THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.087, [02:40:01] ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.072 REAL PROPERTY LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO THE CITY'S PROCUREMENT PROCESS PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0 7 1 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY AND DISCUSS LEGAL ISSUES RELATING TO THE LITIGATION STYLED BRENDA SOUTHLAND, JV ET ETAL VERSUS CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ETAL, PURSUANT TO THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY. HELLO. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. SORRY WE'RE GETTING STARTED A LITTLE LATER. NO ACTION WAS TAKEN IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND NOW, UM, WE WANTED TO START OUR CEREMONIAL AGENDA. OUR FIRST A CITATION TODAY WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO WELCOME. MY NAME IS REBECCA VRAN, I'M YOUR MAYOR PRO TEM. UM, OUR FIRST CITATION TODAY IS FOR THE FLO JO SAN ANTONIO YOUTH TRACK TEAM. THE FLO JO SAN ANTONIO YOUTH TRACK TEAM HAD 44 INDIVIDUALS AND 10 RELAY QUALIFY FOR THE A A U NATIONAL JUNIOR OLYMPIC GAMES IN DES MOSS, IOWA. THEY RAN AWAY WITH SEVERAL MEDALS, WHICH INCLUDED THREE SILVER AND TWO BRONZE. THE VERY NEXT WEEKEND, THE TEAM MOVED ON TO THE U S A TRACK AND FIELD JUNIOR OLYMPIC GAMES IN WINGATE, NORTH CAROLINA, AND EMERGED WITH TWO GOLD MEDALS AND OTHER AWARDS. CONGRATULATIONS TO THIS YOUNG, STELLAR TEAM, AND I THINK I HEAR THEIR MEDALS RATTLING TOO RIGHT NOW. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO, UM, READ THE CITATION. I ALSO WANT TO INVITE THE, UM, THE TRACK TEAM MEMBERS, FORWARD MAYOR, AND OUR MAYOR JUST ARRIVED AND I AM GOING, UH, IF OUR TRACK TEAM MEMBERS CAN COME FORWARD, YOU CAN FACE, YOU CAN FACE HER. YES. JUST HERE ARE THOSE JINGLES. SO I WILL READ THE CITATION FOR YOU ALL AND THEN WE'LL TAKE THE PICTURE. OKAY. SO I'M GONNA READ THE CITATION FOR YOU ALL. CITATION TO THE FLO JO SAN ANTONIO YOUTH TRACK TEAM IN RECOGNITION OF YOUR STELLAR PERFORMANCE AT THE 2018 U S A TRACK AND FIELD NATIONAL JUNIOR OLYMPICS HELD IN IRWIN BELK STADIUM IN WINGATE, NORTH CAROLINA, JULY 23RD THROUGH THE 29TH 2018. THIS HONOR IS A TESTAMENT OF THE TEAM'S DEDICATION, PERSEVERANCE, AND SELF-DETERMINATION, AND IS TRULY WORTHY OF COMMENDATION. NOW, THEREFORE, I RON NUREMBERG, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL PROUDLY COMMEND THE MEMBERS, COACHES, AND PARENTS OF THE FLO JO SAN ANTONIO YOUTH TRACK TEAM ON THIS OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT AND OFFER BEST WISHES FOR CONTINUED SUCCESS IN WITNESS WHERE OF I HAVE HERE TO SET THE HAND AND CAUSE THE OFFICIAL SEAL OF THE SAN ANTONIO TO BE AFFIXED THIS THIRD DAY OF OCTOBER, 2018. CONGRATULATIONS, COACH. HERE IS YOUR CITATION. THERE YOU GO. CONGRATULATIONS. STAND BEHIND YOU. GOOD JOB Y'ALL. CONGRATULATIONS. THANKS FOR ANSWERING [02:45:01] MY CALL. YES, SIR. YES. THANK YOU SIR. HALF MY DAYS. COACH, COACH, IF YOU'D LIKE TO, UM, SAY A FEW COACH, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SAY A FEW REMARKS. UM, YES. UM, THIS TRACK TEAM WAS STARTED, UM, EIGHT YEAR, NO, NINE YEARS AGO HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. WE STARTED OFF WITH FIVE KIDS. UM, WE WENT TO OUR FIRST JUNIOR OLYMPICS IN HOUSTON, TEXAS, MAYBE SIX YEARS AGO. WE WALKED OUTTA TEAM FROM ATLANTA, BROKE THE NATIONAL RECORD ON US. WE CRIED, I CRIED AT LEAST I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE KIDS, THE KIDS WAS HAPPY. I WENT BACK AND I SAID, SAN ANTONIO HAS TOO MUCH TALENT FOR US TO EVER LOSE AGAIN. THIS YEAR WE TOOK, UM, FOUR, FOUR GIRLS TO THE JUNIOR OLYMPICS IN NORTH CAROLINA. THE YOUNG LADIES PERFORMED WELL. THEY, UM, THEY, THEY WON A GOLD IN THE FOUR BY ONE, WHICH YOU WASN'T EVEN EXPECTING. THEN THEY CAME BACK TWO DAYS LATER AND WON A FOUR BY FOUR RELAY. THEN WE GOT ON THE ROAD AND DROVE FROM NORTH CAROLINA TO IOWA TO COMPETE IN ANOTHER JUNIOR OLYMPICS. THIS TIME THEY GOT SECOND PLACE, WHICH I WAS VERY PROUD OF THE GIRLS. WE ALSO HAD FOUR OF THE TEAMS PLAY SECOND. UM, WE HAD SOME GREAT INDIVIDUALS. FIRST I'D LIKE TO SAY, BEFORE I SAY ANYTHING ELSE, HAPPY ANNIVERSARY TO MY BEAUTIFUL WIFE. IT'S OUR 10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY. AND THEN I'D LIKE TO THANK THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO FOR HAVING US HERE. UM, AND I PROMISE YOU WE'RE GONNA KEEP BRINGING YOU GOLD MEDALS. WE'RE GONNA KEEP REPRESENTING, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE EVERY KID FROM OUR TEAM AND EVERY OTHER TEAM GO TO COLLEGE SO WE CAN BE SOME GREAT PEOPLE HERE IN SOCIETY. UH, YOU KNOW, JUST, UH, JUST A PLEASURE TO BE A PART OF THE TEAM COACH TONY. UH, LET ME AND MY OLDEST DAUGHTER COME ALONG A COUPLE YEARS BACK AND, UH, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK FOR HIM AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THAT MAN AND, AND COACH SPENCER AS WELL. BUT I KNOW TONY STARTED THIS WHOLE THING AND HE HAD A VISION. AND I THINK THAT COACH SPENCER SAID IT BEST EARLIER. HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, UH, COACH TONY TALKS, HE JUST DOESN'T TALK ABOUT TRACK. HE TALKS ABOUT SCHOOL. HE'S ALWAYS, MATTER OF FACT, HE ACTUALLY HANDS OUT DOLLAR BILLS FOR GRADES. YOU KNOW, YOU BRING ME A HUNDRED, HEY, I GOT A DOLLAR FOR YOU. YOU KNOW, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I THINK HE, UH, IS BUILDING THE, THE WHOLE INDIVIDUAL. HE'S ALWAYS PUSHING TO BE A, A, A GREAT PERSON, UH, DO WELL IN SCHOOL AND, AND ALWAYS WORK HARD, NOT JUST IN TRACK, BUT IN LIFE IN GENERAL. AND, UH, IT'S JUST BEEN A PLEASURE WATCHING THAT JOURNEY. AND I SAW IT WHEN THIS MAN BROKE DOWN AND CRIED WHEN THE GIRLS WON IN NORTH CAROLINA. AND IT WAS, IT WAS IT WAS A, A SENSE OF ACCOMPLISHMENT. IT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, UH, KIND OF A, HEY, IT'S ALL COME TO FRUITION AND, AND WE MADE IT TO THIS POINT AND, UH, AND IT WON'T STOP. AND WE WE'RE JUST BLESSED TO BE A PART OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, I JUST WANT TO, UH, AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING US. IT IS, UH, I HONOR OUR PLEASURE TO BE HERE, UH, THESE KIDS, AND I'M GONNA ASK YOU ALL TO STAND UP ONE MORE TIME. THESE KIDS COME OUT AND JUST TO TALK, YOU KNOW, THE THING THAT WE STRESS AS COACH GLENN SAID IS THE WHOLE CHILD, NOT JUST ATHLETICS, WE MAKE SURE WE TALK ABOUT ACADEMICS, WE MAKE SURE WE TALK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON AT IN THE HOME AND ALL OF THAT. AND, AND SO IT GIVES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN HARD WORK, DETERMINATION, PERSEVERANCE. THEY PRACTICE ON MONDAYS, WEDNESDAYS, UH, I'M SORRY, MONDAYS, TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS, EVEN IN THE SAN ANTONIO HEAT. OKAY? SO THAT IS DETERMINATION, AND THEY TAKE THAT WITH THEM AS THEY GROW OLDER. AND SO REALLY THIS MOMENT IS NOT ABOUT THE COACHES, IT'S, IT'S ABOUT THEM AND THEIR HARD WORK AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE DONE. AND SO WE WANT TO THANK THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO FOR MAKING THE THINGS AVAILABLE TO US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TRAINING THEM, OPENING UP THE TRACKS AND THE FACILITIES, ESPECIALLY IN THE NORTH SIDE DISTRICTS, AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT ARE FREE, THAT WE CAN GO AND REALLY MAKE SURE WE GET THIS WORK IN FOR THEM. AND SO WE WANT TO APPRECIATE YOU ALL FOR THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU, UH, COACH SPENCER. COACH TONY, UM, ALL THE COACHES, UH, HOW MANY COACHES Y'ALL HAVE? EIGHT. 18. 18 AND 140, UH, ATHLETES, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU BEST TEAM IN THE NATION. YES. AND I THINK IF WE HAVE A GOAL THAT WE CAN SET [02:50:01] TOGETHER AS A CITY RIGHT NOW IS THAT YOU WILL NO LONGER BE WINNING ALL THESE CHAMPIONSHIPS UNDER THE RADAR. WE EXPECT TO COME BACK EVERY YEAR AND CELEBRATE YOU ALL. SO CONGRATULATIONS. ALRIGHT, OUR SECOND CEREMONIAL, ANOTHER CHAMPION TEAM. THE SOUTHWEST ELITE BASEBALL TEAM WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP TITLE AT THE 2018 PONY LEAGUE SOUTH ZONE TOURNAMENT. PLAYED IN HARLINGEN, TEXAS ON JULY 26TH, 2018, THE ELITES ADVANCED TO THE TOURNAMENT AND BECAME THE FIRST TEAM TO REPRESENT SAN ANTONIO AND THE PALOMINO WORLD SERIES. CONGRATULATIONS TO THE SOUTHWEST ELITES ON THEIR OUTSTANDING SEASON. AND SO I'D LIKE TO CALL FOR THE SOUTHWEST ELITE BASEBALL TEAM AND COACHES TO ACCEPT THIS CITATION AS I READ IT. AND, AND IN RECOGNITION OF THE 2018 PONY LEAGUE'S PALOMINO SOUTH ZONE CHAMPIONSHIP, THE TEAM'S GREAT DETERMINATION, DEDICATION, AND SPORTSMANSHIP WAS DE WAS DEMONSTRATED THROUGHOUT THE SEASON AND IS WORLD WORTHY OF COMMENDATION. NOW, THEREFORE, I, RON NUREMBERG MAYOR, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AND ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL PROUDLY COMMEND THE TEAM, THE COACHING STAFF, AND THE PARENTS OF SOUTHWEST ELITE BASEBALL TEAM ON THIS OUTSTANDING ACCOMPLISHMENT AND EXTEND BEST WISHES FOR CONTINUED SUCCESS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. I ACTUALLY WANTED TO GIVE THE MIC TO ONE OF THE PLAYERS HERE. DO THAT. AND BEFORE THE PLAYERS AND COACHES SIT DOWN, UM, WE DO HAVE SOME COUNCILS MEMBERS WHO WANT TO SAY SOMETHING, BUT I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. OKAY. WELL, I, MY NAME IS BRIAN CASTILLA. I'M FROM SAN ANTONIO. THE, THE, THE KIDS BEHIND ME. I'VE HAD THESE KIDS SINCE PROBABLY THEY'RE 11 YEARS OLD. YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S AN HONOR. IT'S REMARKABLE. NOW ALL, ALL OF THEM BEHIND ME ARE SENIORS IN HIGH SCHOOL, ALL OF THEM FROM SAN ANTONIO, FROM SOUTHWEST TO, TO MEDINA VALLEY, TO STEVENS HIGH SCHOOL. SO, AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S SUCH AN HONOR TO HAVE THESE KIDS AND, AND, AND NOT BE IN THE SAME SCHOOL, NOT SEE EACH OTHER EVERY DAY, BUT TO BE ABLE TO PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL AND SAY, HEY, LET'S, LET'S GO. LET'S GO DO A TOURNAMENT. LET'S GO SEE WHAT WE CAN GET SOME PRACTICE IN. IT'S, UH, UM, LET'S, LET'S TRY TO DO SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY NEVER BEEN ABLE TO DO, WHICH IS TO REACH THE WORLD SERIES AND REPRESENT SAN ANTONIO IN THAT, UH, PONY BASEBALL, AS YOU KNOW, HAS PROBABLY BEEN AROUND SINCE 1950. AND TO HAVE A TEAM FROM SAN ANTONIO GO TO THE WORLD SERIES AND REPRESENT, UH, THE 18 AND UNDER DIVISION, IT'S PRETTY TOUGH. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OVER 25 PONY LEAGUES IN SAN ANTONIO ALONE. AND SO IT WAS A GREAT AND A HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT. AND, UH, IT WAS, IT WAS TOUGH. YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, UM, WE, WE STARTED OFF IN, IN HARLING AND, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THE GREATEST, UH, LUCK. WE ENDED UP HAVING TO DRAW THE, THE TEAM THAT WON IT ALL LAST YEAR, FIRST AND FOREMOST, LOUISIANA. AND WE HAD TO PLAY BROWNSVILLE AND HAD TO PLAY, UM, UH, HARLINGEN THEMSELVES. SO IT, IT WAS REALLY TOUGH. UH, THESE KIDS WENT THROUGH QUITE A BIT, UM, QUITE A BIT. UH, WE, WE WERE DOWN 10 TO ONE IN THE FIRST INNING, SO THAT, THAT'LL TELL YOU. AND IT'S A TWO HOUR BASEBALL GAME. SO THAT'LL TELL YOU REAL QUICK A LOT OF WHAT THESE KIDS OVERCAME. AND THE REASON WHY I WANTED TO ASK AND THEN BRING ONE OF MY PLAYERS TO THE PODIUM, BECAUSE A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THEM. I COACH THEM, BUT THEY'RE THE ONES ON THE FIELD DOING ALL THE WORKS. I REALLY WANT HIM TO SAY A FEW WORDS. COME ON, MR. KAGAN. WE, WE, UH, WE, WE CALL HIM THE COACH BECAUSE SOMETIMES I, UH, THINGS GET HEATED AND I END UP HAVING TO LEAVE. NOT, NOT BECAUSE I WANT TO. AND, UH, HE USUALLY STEPS IN IN THE SHOES AND TAKES OVER. SO THIS IS KAGAN MARTINEZ. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TALK ABOUT. I, HUH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TALK ABOUT. . THANK THE CITY, BRO. THANK THE CITY FOR COMING OUT AND WHAT WE DID AND HOW FUN IT WAS FOR US. I DON'T KNOW. UM, I'VE KNOWN MOST OF THESE GUYS, OR MOST OF 'EM SINCE I WAS ABOUT 12. AND AT FIRST I DIDN'T LIKE THIS GUY AT ALL. I, NOT AT ALL. BUT AFTER I GOT TO KNOW HIM, AFTER I PLAYED WITH HIM, HE, HE BECAME LIKE A SECOND FATHER FIGURE TO ME. 'CAUSE [02:55:01] I MEAN, I CAN RELY ON HIM FOR WHATEVER. AND THESE GUYS, THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE ALWAYS THERE. THEY'RE ALWAYS PLAYING, ALWAYS MESSING AROUND WHENEVER WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO. ALWAYS, ALWAYS OUT THERE, ALWAYS PLAYING. AND THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE LIKE BROTHERS TO ME. I'LL NEVER FORGET PLAYING WITH HIM. AND HOLLINGTON WAS PROBABLY THE MOST EVENTFUL TOURNAMENT I'VE EVER PLAYED IN, BECAUSE OUR COACH GOT KICKED OUT. AND , I HAD TO STEP IN AND HELP OUR OTHER COACH, COACH OUR TEAM TO HELP US WIN THAT GAME AND HELPED US WIN. MOVING ON, THIS IS, UH, MY ASSISTANT COACH, PETE BUSTAMANTE. SO HERE WE GO. YEAH, KAGAN IS ONE OF THE KIDS THAT HE HARDLY EVER STOPS TALKING. SO IT WAS KIND OF, KIND OF STRANGE HIM BEING LOST FOR WORDS RIGHT NOW, LIKE I AM. BUT, UM, I JUST WANNA SAY AS A BIG HONOR, AND I WANT TO THANK THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, UH, UH, MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL PEOPLE FOR, FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THIS, UH, FOR RECOGNIZING THIS TEAM. AND LIKE COACH SAID, THEY, THEY WENT THROUGH A LOT. I'M VERY PROUD OF THEM. THEY OVERCAME BIG OBSTACLES TO GET THERE. AND, UH, THERE WAS TIMES WHERE IT SEEMED LIKE WE WERE, WE WEREN'T GONNA GET OUT OF THE FIRST ROUND, BUT SOMEHOW THEY WOULD FIND A WAY TO WIN THESE GAMES. AND IT SHOWED A LOT OF CHARACTER, IT SHOWED A LOT OF DISCIPLINE, IT SHOWED A LOT OF FIGHT, SOMETHING THAT WE TRY TO TEACH 'EM SINCE THEY'RE LITTLE. AND THEY NEVER GAVE UP. THEY NEVER GAVE UP. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, THEY ENDED UP BEING ONE OF THE EIGHT TEAMS IN THE WORLD TO, TO BE IN THE WORLD SERIES, WHICH WAS HELD IN THE RADAR. SO WE WERE VERY PROUD OF THAT. AND THAT'S ABOUT IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. WE HAVE SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO'D LIKE TO SHARE SOME REMARKS. COUNCIL MEMBER SALANA. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND I'M, I'M EXCITED TO HAVE SOME, SOME OTHER BASEBALL PLAYERS IN THE, IN THE, UH, CHAMBERS TODAY. AND IT'S JUST IN MY MIND, YOU GUYS ARE SUCH PROTOTYPICAL, LIKE BASEBALL PLAYERS. YOU GOT THE FLAT BILL, THE UPSIDE DOWN, OAKLEYS, THE SUNBURN NECK. UH, AND, AND EVEN, EVEN TO THE POINT THAT YOU MAKE FUN OF YOUR TEAMMATE WHEN HE COMES UP HERE AND SPEAKS AND YOU'RE JOKING AND LAUGHING WHILE HE'S UP HERE DOING HIS THING, IT JUST BRINGS BACK TOO MANY CRAZY MEMORIES. BUT I THINK THE BEST MEMORY IS, IS THE ONE OF YOUR COACH, COACH, I DIDN'T CATCH YOUR NAME, COACH BRIAN. I'M JUST GONNA CALL YOU COACHES, WHICH, WHICH IS WHAT I CALLED ALL MY COACHES. UH, AND TO THE, ALL THE COACHES WHO ARE HERE AS WELL. IT, IT BROUGHT BACK SOMEBODY MEMORIES BECAUSE YOU LOVE YOUR COACH, YOU HATE YOUR COACH, YOU RESPECT YOUR COACH, AND THEN AT SOME POINT YOU CAN'T STAND YOUR COACH. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK WHAT OVER, UH, IT ALL ENCOMPASSES IS THEY BECOME LIKE THESE, THESE, THESE FATHER FIGURES. AND IN ANY CASE, UH, YOU RESPECT HOW MUCH THEY'RE POURING INTO YOU, UH, TO BUILD YOU NOT JUST AS ATHLETES OR AS BASEBALL PLAYERS, UH, BUT WITH CHARACTER, WITH, WITH DISCIPLINE, WITH AN UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU'RE PART OF A TEAM. UH, AND THAT'S WHY I LOVED BASEBALL IN MY LIFE, WHICH IS BECAUSE WE KIND OF COUNTED ON EACH OTHER. AND WHATEVER HAPPENED BETWEEN THE FOUL POLE LINES WAS EVERYTHING THAT MATTERED FROM THE FIRST INNING TO THE LAST. AND IT'S, IT'S GREAT AND EXCITING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE THAT AS A FAMILY, THAT YOU'VE DONE IT TO REPRESENT SAN ANTONIO. UH, AND SOUTH TEXAS I KNOW IS A TOUGH PLACE TO PLAY BASEBALL BECAUSE THEY PLAY SOME TOUGH BASEBALL IN SOUTH TEXAS. SO FOR YOU ALL TO COME BACK, UH, WITH, WITH SOME, SOME HARDWARE TO PROVE IT, UH, SAYS A LOT TO US. SO, UH, FROM ONE BASEBALL PLAYER TO THE OTHER, CONGRATULATIONS. I'M SO GLAD TO SEE YOUR SUCCESS. AND I'M ALWAYS WONDERING WHERE YOU EACH GO TO HIGH SCHOOL, BECAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, UH, RECRUITING YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND THE SOFTBALL AND BASEBALL TEAM TOO. BUT I HEARD SOUTHWEST MEDINA VALLEY, UM, WHO, WHO STEVENS HIGH SCHOOL AS WELL TOO. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ALL, AND GOOD LUCK ON THE SEASON. 'CAUSE I KNOW THE SEASON ISN'T OVER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER, COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY, THANK YOU, MA'AM. UH, TO BOTH GROUPS OF, OF GREAT ATHLETES FROM TRACK. AND YES, I RAN TRACK BACK IN THE DAY AND, UH, WAS NOT A LONG RUNNER, BUT I, I HAD HAD THE SPRINT DOWN AND, UH, THE RELAYS AND I LOVED IT. UM, BUT IT TEACHES YOU A BIG PART ABOUT TEAMWORK IN TRACK AND RELYING ON YOUR TEAMMATES WHEN YOU'RE JUST A POINT SHORT OR A FEW POINTS SHORT OF PLACING, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE RELYING ON YOUR TEAMMATES TO GET OUT THERE AND MAKE UP THAT, MAKE UP THAT SHORTAGE AND COME IN FIRST PLACE. THAT THAT IS, THAT IS EXCELLENT ON A TRACK TEAM. AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT, IS TEAMWORK. AND THE SAME THING ON BASEBALL. AND YES, COUNCILMAN SYA IS NOT THE ONLY BASEBALL PLAYER [03:00:01] ON THIS STAGE. THAT'S RIGHT. BUT SAME THING FOR THE BASEBALL TEAM. IT'S ALL ABOUT TEAMWORK, WORKING TOGETHER, STRIVING TO, UH, GET TO PERFECTION. DO YOU EVER GET THERE? NO, YOU DON'T. YOU, YOU'RE NEVER ABOUT A THOUSAND. YOU'RE NEVER A, A GOLDEN GLOVE OUT THERE, BUT YOU'RE ALWAYS WORKING TOWARDS THAT. AND IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S ALL ABOUT SUPPORTING YOUR TEAMMATE AND WORKING TOGETHER AS A TEAM. SO, CONGRATULATIONS TO BOTH GROUPS. I HOPE TO SEE Y'ALL BACK HERE AGAIN IN THE NEAR FUTURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER BROCK HOUSE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND, UH, THANK YOU COUNCILMAN PERRY FOR THAT DELIGHTFUL STORY OF YOU RUNNING. I, I, I DON'T, I FIND THAT VERY HARD TO BELIEVE, UH, AND YOUR BASEBALL HISTORY, BUT GOOD JOB. UH, I WANTED TO JUST REAL QUICK SAY BOTH, UH, TO BOTH ORGANIZATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS AS WELL. WE GOT THROUGH THE FIRST ONE PRETTY QUICK THERE. WE DID GET A CHANCE TO SAY, UH, CONGRATULATIONS TO THE FIRST GROUP THAT CAME UP. YOU REPRESENT YOUR CITY WELL, WE'RE VERY PROUD OF YOU, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. ANY ENERGY AND TIME YOU PUT INTO MAKING YOURSELF BETTER MAKES OUR COMMUNITY BETTER. AND FOR THAT, WE'RE THANKFUL. AND TO THE COACHES AND THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT STOOD UP, ESPECIALLY THE FAMILY AND PARENTS, UH, THAT ARE HERE TODAY. AND I KNOW BOTH WITH THE BASEBALL TEAM AND THE TRACK TEAM, THERE'S A, I CAN SEE COUNTLESS PARENTS THAT HAVE GIVEN TIME AND ENERGY TO MAKE SURE YOUR CHILDREN ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACES TO BE SUCCESSFUL. SO FOR THAT, UH, THANK YOU TO THE PARENTS AND FAMILIES WELL BEYOND THE COACHES, YOU'RE THE COACHES AT HOME. UH, AND THEN THE COACHES TAKE 'EM OVER WHEN THEY'RE IN BETWEEN THE LINES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT DURING THE DAY, UH, I KNOW IT'S THE FAMILIES AND THE SUPPORT GROUPS AROUND THEM ARE TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS AND TO THE BOYS, UH, THEY'RE OUT AROUND THERE PLAYING BALL AT COUNCILMAN SAL'S POINT. UH, I, YOU KNOW, I PLAYED A LITTLE BIT OF BALL TOO, BUT, UH, NOT AT COUNCILMAN SAL'S LEVEL, BUT, UH, I HAD A HECK OF A TIME MAINLY BECAUSE I GOT TO HANG OUT WITH A BUNCH OF BROTHERS. AND WE HAD, WE JUST HAD A GREAT TIME PICKING ON EACH OTHER, PLAYING BALL, HAVING FUN, UH, AND, AND THEN JUST WINNING OR LOSING AT THE END OF IT. UH, WE ENJOYED A LOT OF OUR TIME AND A LOT OF THE SAME AREA, VALLEY HIGH, UH, SOUTHWEST, WHERE THE COUNCILMAN GREW UP, DOWN IN THAT AREA ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SOUTH SAND, MIA, JOHN, JAY, UH, AND I'VE WORKED A COUPLE OF WITH, UH, PREVIOUS JOBS WITH SOME OF YOUR PARENTS. UH, SO I'VE SEEN YOU OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS WORK YOUR WAY THROUGH THIS. AND CONGRATULATIONS, I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING YOU AND, AND JUST KEEPING TRACK OF YOUR SUCCESS. AND, UH, YOU SHOULD BE PROUD AS WE ARE OF YOU AND HOW YOU'VE RENT, UH, REPRESENTED THIS CITY AND THIS COMMUNITY, UH, YOU SPEAK TESTAMENT TO, TO WHAT OUR YOUTH ARE AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. SO WE'RE PROUD OF YOU, BOTH ORGANIZATIONS. GREAT. WE EXPECT TO SEE YOU BACK HERE NEXT YEAR, UH, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT TIME. BUT UNTIL THEY HAVE A GREAT WEEK AND A GREAT REST OF YOUR SCHOOL YEAR, CONGRATULATIONS SOUTHWEST, UH, ON YOUR SUCCESS. CONGRATULATIONS TO THE COACHES. IT SOUNDS LIKE NOT ONLY YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL BASEBALL TEAM, BUT YOU'VE MOLDED SOME, UH, HIGH CHARACTER, GREAT YOUNG MEN, UH, THAT WE'RE VERY PROUD OF HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO WHAT YOU ALL. ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE NOW TO OUR THIRD ITEM, WHICH IS A PROCLAMATION FOR RESILIENCE WEEK. LEADERS FROM AROUND THE WORLD WILL JOIN THE SOCIAL MEDIA CONVERSATION DURING THE RESILIENCE WEEK CONFERENCE BEING HELD OCTOBER EIGHT, EIGHTH THROUGH 12TH 2018. THE WEEK LONG EVENT HOSTED BY EPICENTER IS INTENDED TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT BUSINESS CONTINUITY IN THE FACE OF DISASTER. AND SO AT THE PODIUM NOW IS DAVID MCGEE AND JILL VASSAR TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION, WHICH I'LL READ RIGHT NOW. WHEREAS THE EPICENTER WILL HOST A RESILIENCE WEEK CONFERENCE VIA SOCIAL MEDIA OCTOBER 8TH THROUGH 12TH. AND WHEREAS EPICENTER IS A DYNAMIC PLACE WHERE VISIONARY ENTREPRENEURS, TECHNOLOGISTS, AND COMMUNITIES COME TOGETHER TO CREATE A BRIGHTER ENERGY FUTURE RESEARCH, GENERATE AND PROMOTE NEW IDEAS SURROUNDING NEW ENERGY AND ENGAGE CITIZENS IN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ANY ENERGY TRANSFORMATION. AND WHEREAS RESILIENCE WEEK, AN EXTENSION OF EPICENTERS 2018 SUMMIT, DISASTER DISABLED RESILIENCE, REINVENTED AS A BUSINESS TO BUSINESS SOCIAL MEDIA CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW TO STAY IN BUSINESS AFTER A DISASTER. AND WHEREAS THE DURING THE WEEK LONG EVENT, BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS ARE ENCOURAGED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE SOCIAL MEDIA CONVERSATION ABOUT THE RESILIENCE PLANS OR EXPERIENCE WITH RESILIENCE USING HASHTAG S A X RESILIENCE SO THAT SAN ANTONIO WILL BE A BETTER PREPARED CITY TO FACE A DISASTER. NOW, THEREFORE, IRAN NUREMBERG MAYOR, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, IN RECOGNITION THEREOF DO BY DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER EIGHT THROUGH 12TH 2018 TO BE RESILIENT WEEK. CONGRATULATIONS, Y'ALL. THANK WE'RE A MUCH SMALLER GROUP, . THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR AND ALL, ALL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. MY NAME IS JILL VASSAR. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND PARTNERSHIPS AT EPICENTER. [03:05:01] I'VE MET MANY, IF NOT MOST OF YOU, AND, UH, WE'RE DELIGHTED TO HAVE THIS PROCLAMATION FROM THE CITY. THIS WHOLE CONCEPT OF RESILIENCE WEEK, UH, WAS PRESENTED AND ANNOUNCED AT OUR SUMMIT IN MAY. AND COUNCILMAN PIAS HELPED US MAKE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT. AND WE REALLY WANTED TO EXTEND THIS CONVERSATION INTO THE COMMUNITY AND, UH, ENCOURAGE ALL THE BUSINESSES TO NOT ONLY HAVE RESILIENCE PLANS, BUT TO TALK ABOUT THEM AND TO SHARE BEST PRACTICES AND THE TECHNOLOGIES THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE USING TO IMPLEMENT THOSE PLANS. AND SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO FOLLOW THAT HASHTAG S A X RESILIENCE. UM, WE'VE HAD A GREAT WORKING PARTNERSHIP WITH YOUR OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY AND ALL THE WORK THEY'RE DOING WITH SA CLIMATE READY, AND WE'RE VERY PLEASED TO HAVE DAVID MCGEE WITH US AS OUR LOCAL BUSINESS CHAMPION. UM, HE HAS A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY WITH DEALING WITH DISASTERS, AS YOU KNOW, IN HURRICANE HARVEY. AND SO, UM, I DO APPRECIATE HIS COMING AND BEING A PART OF, UH, A PART OF TONIGHT AS WELL AS RESILIENCE WEEK. SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DAVID. OH, AND I SHOULD, UH, RECOGNIZE LIZ ZI, WHO IS WITH ACUP PRINT. SHE IS REPRESENTING ONE OF THE 25 TO 30 COMPANIES THAT ARE ALREADY ENGAGED IN OUR SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN. AND SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO WATCH FOR THEM AND ALL THE OTHER PLAYERS NEXT WEEK. THANK YOU. I WILL HOLD THAT. YES. THANK, THANK YOU, JILL. AND MAYOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UM, THE ATTENTION THAT YOU'RE DRAWING TO THIS REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE. AND COUNCIL, IT TAKES GREAT LEADERSHIP TO GET PEOPLE TO FOCUS ON THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE NOT MAYBE READILY APPARENT THAT THEY REALLY NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR MANY. UH, COUNCILMAN P HE'S BEEN A GREAT LEADER IN THIS REGARD TOO. AND, UH, SO THANK YOU FOR CREATING THE AWARENESS, UH, MY JOB AS CHAMPION. WHEN, WHEN JILL CALLED ME AND ASKED ME TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS, IT WAS REALLY A VERY EASY ANSWER. UH, YOU WOULD THINK THAT AS A BANK, UH, WE WOULD HAVE BUSINESS CONTINUITY PLANS AND THINK ABOUT JUST ABOUT ANY POTENTIAL DISASTER THAT YOU COULD IMAGINE. AND WE DO TRY TO DO THAT. AND WE IN FACT HAVE MANY PLANS, UH, LOTS OF RESILIENCY PLANS. BUT WHEN HARVEY HIT LAST, LAST YEAR, UH, I, AND WE WERE ALL LOOKING AT, UH, WHERE IT WAS GONNA LAND AND THINKING ABOUT WHAT ARE THE POSSIBILITIES IN SAN ANTONIO. I WAS REALLY GRATEFUL TO KNOW THAT IT WAS GONNA MISS US. UNFORTUNATELY, IT HIT HOUSTON, TEXAS, AND WE HAVE 1900 EMPLOYEES IN HOUSTON, TEXAS AT AMEE BANK. AND SO I GOT THE CALL TO GO TO HOUSTON TO LEAD OUR RESCUE AND, UH, RECOVERY EFFORTS FOR OUR 1900 EMPLOYEES. ON THE FIRST DAY, WE COULD NOT LOCATE 900 OF OUR EMPLOYEES. AND SO, UH, YOU QUICKLY FIND OUT IN A RESILIENCY PLAN WHERE YOUR WEAKNESSES ARE. AND, UM, I AM SO GRATEFUL WE WILL BE, UH, UH, I WILL BE ETERNALLY GRATEFUL TO OTHER LEADERS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. FOLKS LIKE U SS A A AND H E B, AND B C F SS WHO CAME TO MY RESCUE, WHO GAVE US THE RESOURCES THAT WE NEEDED TO HELP RESOLVE ISSUES AND REALLY REACH OUT AND RESCUE OUR PEOPLE AND PUT THEM BACK ON THEIR FEET. SO I'M HERE TODAY AS A CHAMPION FOR SAN ANTONIO TO SAY, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PLAN, YOU NEED TO GET ONE. IF YOU HAVE A PLAN, YOU NEED TO HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS AND CONNECTIVITY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'VE TESTED YOUR PLAN. AND BECAUSE THE WEAKNESS IN YOUR PLAN IS GOING TO SHOW UP IN THE MIDDLE OF A CATASTROPHE, WE HAVE GOT TO BE A PART OF THIS CONVERSATION. WE HAVE TO HELP EACH OTHER THINK THROUGH WHAT ARE THE POSSIBILITIES. AND I'M JUST SO PROUD OF SAN ANTONIO BECAUSE WE REALLY DID SHINE DURING HURRICANE HARVEY. UH, IT'S ACTUALLY VERY APPROPRIATE THAT WE'RE HERE WITH A TRACK TEAM WHO HAS PLANNED AND TRAINED SO HARD AND WON, AND A BASEBALL TEAM WHO WORKS TOGETHER AS A TEAM. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AS A COMMUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO THE ISSUE OF RESILIENCY. SO THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR THIS, UH, CALL TO ACTION, MR. MCGEE, IF Y'ALL COULD, UH, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF PEOPLE TO SPEAK, SO IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO STAY UP HERE AND, UH, UH, LET'S HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY. COUNCILMAN COURAGE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, I JUST WANT TO, UH, GIVE, UM, I THINK A SHOUT OUT TO, UH, C P S BECAUSE IT WAS C P SS THAT REALLY DEVELOPED ALONG WITH ITS PARTNERS, THE EPICENTER. YOU KNOW, THEY REPURPOSED AN OLD ENERGY PLANT, UH, AND THEY'VE REVITALIZED THAT AREA AROUND THERE. AND NOW IT'S A CENTER FOR ENERGY INNOVATION AND FOR RESILIENCY. SO, UH, I KNOW IT'S BEEN A, A GREAT FACILITY. IT'S STILL GOT A GREAT FUTURE. THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S GOING ON IN SAN ANTONIO THAT'S HELPING US GROW TO BE, UH, THE GREAT CITY THAT WE ARE. AND I'M GLAD THAT IT WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT IN, IN THE PROGRESS THAT YOU MADE ON RESILIENCY. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. UH, COUNCILMAN ELIAS. THANKS. UM, THANK, THANK YOU TO BOTH OF YOU. YOUR, YOUR CHAMPIONS, UH, ALL AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE EPICENTER TEAM MEMBERS IS A, IS A CHAMPION. BUT, UH, REALLY, I, I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO CONGRATULATE OUR BASEBALL TEAM, UM, BECAUSE COUNCILMAN SALDANA SORT OF SAID EVERYTHING I WANTED TO TELL YOU GUYS, BUT THE REASON I'M ADDRESSING [03:10:01] YOU RIGHT NOW, FELLAS IN THE BLUE SHIRTS OVER THERE, IS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THIS PROBABLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE RIGHT NOW. LIKE, WHAT, WHY IS IT THAT THESE FOLKS ARE UP HERE AND WHY IS IT THAT IT DIRECTLY APPLIES TO YOU GUYS? BUT I GOTTA TELL YOU SOMETHING. YOUR ABILITY TO LIVE IN A CITY WHERE YOU'VE GOT GOOD PARKS, WHERE YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT YOU, WHERE YOU'VE GOT SAFE ROADS, WHERE YOU'VE GOT POLICE, WHERE IT'S POSSIBLE FOR YOU GUYS TO GO TO SCHOOL, THRIVE, SUCCEED, AND THEN SOMEHOW MAKE TIME TO ALSO DEDICATE YOURSELF TO THIS IS ONLY POSSIBLE BECAUSE THERE'S OTHER FOLKS OUT THERE THINKING ABOUT WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO BLOCK AND TACKLE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALWAYS HAVE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT. AND THAT INCLUDES HOW DO WE RESPOND TO DISASTERS, RIGHT? AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE, YOU KNOW, DISASTERS VISIT CITIES. AND OUR JOB AS GOVERNMENT IS TO, AND OUR PARTNERS UP HERE, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT IF A HURRICANE HARVEY HAD LANDED ON US, THAT YOU WOULD STILL HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PRACTICE AND STILL HAVE BEEN ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, GET OUT ON THE ROAD TO GO PLAY YOUR GAMES AND STILL BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND BRING HOME THOSE MEDALS. THAT'S THE POINT OF ALL OF THIS, RIGHT? AND SO, IN, IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, THERE'S A REALLY GOOD CHANCE THAT SOME OF YOU MAY NEVER BE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES PLAYING FOR THE, YOU KNOW, UH, FOR, FOR PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL TEAMS. BUT THE ONE THING THAT WE DO GUARANTEE YOU GUYS IS THE OPPORTUNITY, RIGHT? AND THE OPPORTUNITY ONLY EXISTS BECAUSE WE'RE THINKING ABOUT HOW TO MAKE GOOD THINGS HAPPEN TO YOU, BUT ALSO HOW TO PREVENT BAD THINGS FROM HAPPENING TO YOU GUYS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UP HERE. THIS IS PROBABLY, THIS IS A REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT MOMENT. UM, AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU GUYS ARE HERE TO WITNESS IT. SO THANKS TO EPICENTER FOR DOING THAT FOR THOSE GUYS. IT'S OUR PLEASURE. THANK YOU, HONOR. THANK, THANK YOU, SIR. UH, COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, MAYOR PRO TEM, AND THANK YOU, UM, FOR, UH, MOVING FORWARD WITH RESILIENCE WEEK. AND I SAW THE LIST OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING. IT'S A GREAT, UH, RANGE YES. OF COMPANIES, AND I THINK THAT'S WONDERFUL. UM, AND I THINK COUNCILMAN BELI HAS MENTIONED THIS IN, IN THE PRESS RELEASE, WHICH I WAS JUST REVIEWING RIGHT NOW. BUT, UM, THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT PART OF OUR CLIMATE ACTION ADAPTATION PLAN THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED RIGHT NOW, UH, FOR THE MOST PART OF, OF, OR FOR PART OF MY CAREER. I WORKED IN CLIMATE ACTION AND REDUCING GREENHOUSE GASES. BUT THE TRUTH IS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE IMPACTS. AND, UH, THERE, THERE'S DIFFERENT KINDS OF RESILIENCE, BUT CERTAINLY, UH, RESPONSE TO EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS IS, IS ONE OF THEM. AND NOT KNOWING WHERE YOUR EMPLOYEES ARE CAN BE, UH, CAN BE VERY IMPACTFUL TO YOUR, TO YOUR BUSINESS. SO, UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT EVERYONE IS GONNA LEARN FROM THAT. AND I THINK IT CAN PROBABLY REALLY INFORM THE PLAN THAT WE'RE DEVELOPING HERE FOR, FOR THE CITY. SO THANK YOU FOR, FOR DOING THAT. AND TO THE FLO JO TEAM AND THE PONY CHAMPION, THE PONY LEAGUE CHAMPIONS, CONGRATULATIONS TO TO ALL OF YOU. AND IF I COULD SAY ONE THING IS, UM, I'M REALLY JEALOUS. 'CAUSE I WISH WHEN I WAS A KID, I HAD DEVELOPED THAT HABIT OF ALWAYS EXERCISING AND HAVING, UM, HAVING THAT HABIT, IT'S A WHOLE LOT HARDER TO DO WHEN YOU'RE AN ADULT TO, TO, UH, MAKE THAT A HABIT. SO DON'T LET IT GO. UM, SO CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN. THANK YOU. ADVICE, GOOD ADVICE, . THANK YOU, MA'AM. UH, COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ FOR, UH, FOR ALL YOU DO AT EPICENTER AND THE CREATIVITY IN WHICH YOU USE TO, UM, TO, TO DO THAT. I'M, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS RESILIENCE WEEK AND THIS SORT OF DIFFERENT KIND OF EXPERIENCE. I HAVE NEVER WITNESSED IT BEFORE, AND SO I'M JUST LIKE, JUST ON THE CUSP OF NOT, UH, HAVING TECHNOLOGY EVERY DAY IN MY LIFE. I THINK IF I WERE BORN A GENERATION EARLIER, UH, IT WOULD BE NORMAL, BUT IT'S STILL NOT SOMETHING THAT I REALLY KNOW HOW IT'S GONNA WORK. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING IT. WE DON'T EITHER SEEING IT, WE DON'T. I MEAN, UM, AND SO SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO EXPERIENCE IT FOR THE FIRST TIME TO, UM, UH, HOPE, FIRST OF ALL, GET THE KINKS OUT AND SEE THAT THIS IS A, UM, UH, SOMETHING THAT REALLY WORKS AND PEOPLE GET ENGAGED WITH. AND WE LEARN A NEW WAY TO COMMUNICATE WITH PEOPLE, BECAUSE THAT'S, I KNOW, ONE OF MY, I FEEL LIKE MY, ONE OF MY BIGGEST CHALLENGES, UH, AS A COUNCIL MEMBER IS HOW TO COMMUNICATE WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS ABOUT WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT. AND, UM, I HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE A NEW WAY TO COMMUNICATE WITH PEOPLE AND INFORM THEM. AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO ALL THE FEEDBACK. I HOPE THAT YOU HAVE SOME SORT OF FEEDBACK LOOP SO WE CAN HEAR ABOUT THE SUCCESSES AND, AND, UH, AND FAILURES OF DOING A SOCIAL MEDIA PROGRAM LIKE THIS ONE. DID YOU WANNA COMMENT ON? WELL, I, I'M JUST NODDING BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, NOBODY, WELL, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE, AND SO IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN EXPERIMENT, BUT THE CONVERSATION IS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE THOUGHT WE'D TRY IT AND TRY IT IN THIS METHOD. AND WE WILL BE, UH, CURATING ALL THE, [03:15:01] ALL THE ACTIVITY AND PUTTING TOGETHER, UM, THE OUTCOMES AND THE, THE THINGS THAT ARE RELEVANT THAT COME OUTTA THE CONVERSATION THAT CAN INFORM THE CITY'S PLAN, AS WELL AS EVERYONE'S OWN RESILIENCE PLAN. WELL, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THAT RISK FOR US, UH, IS DEFINITELY NOT SOMETHING WE WANNA DO ON THE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS HERE AT CITY HALL. FAIR. FAIR. BUT WE, UH, WELCOME, UM, THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN FROM YOUR EXPERIENCES. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING AT EPICENTER AND, UH, FOR YOUR CONTINUED ENGAGEMENT IN THE COMMUNITY. IT'S OUR PLEASURE. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND I, I JUST WANT TO, UH, ECHO A LOT OF THOSE COMMENTS, AND PARTICULARLY WHAT YOU SAID MR. MCGEE, ABOUT, UH, EXERCISING PLANS, BEING AN AIR FORCE RETIREE, WE, YOU TALK ABOUT HAVING PLANS, WE HAD PLANS, WE HAD PLANS FOR THE PLANS, AND, YOU KNOW, ONE WAY THAT YOU MADE SURE THAT THOSE WERE OPERATIONAL WAS TO EXERCISE THOSE PLANS AND GET OUT THERE AND ACTUALLY USE 'EM IN PRACTICE. AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE A PLAN THAT WORKS, IS TO ACTUALLY GO OUT THERE AND USE 'EM. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO ALL OF THIS, UH, COMING UP HERE IN THE FUTURE AND SEE WHERE WE GO FROM HERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. THANK YOU. AND, UH, JILL, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY, UM, TO YOU AND THE WHOLE EPICENTER STAFF, UM, IT'S A GRAND VISION OF AN INCREDIBLE LEARNING LAB THAT WE CAN BE VERY PROUD OF HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OBSTACLES IN THE WAY, AS, AS SO MANY PROJECTS GET LAUNCHED, BUT YOU HAVE STAYED FOCUSED ON THE VISION, AND I THINK IT'S AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT ONE. SO I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION SO THE PUBLIC CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT THE MISSION IS, UH, WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT. AND TO YOU, DAVID, UM, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU, UH, FOR BEING A MEMBER OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY THAT'S WILLING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT RESILIENCE. UM, IT'S NOT A CONCEPT THAT I THINK, UH, MANY FOLKS HAVE QUITE GRASPED. UM, BUT YOU'VE TAKEN OWNERSHIP OF THAT AND ARE TRYING TO HELP US UNDERSTAND THAT IN A BETTER WAY AND HOW IT IMPACTS BUSINESSES. I THINK SAN ANTONIO, UH, HAS A LOT TO LEARN FROM YOU IN THAT APPROACH. UH, YOU'VE TAKEN THAT INTO YOUR ROLE AS SAWS, AND IT'S A PLEASURE TO SERVE WITH YOU ON, ON THAT. UH, BUT I, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR, UM, BEING WILLING TO HAVE A TOUGH CONVERSATION ABOUT, UH, PREPAREDNESS AND HOW IT MAKES US BETTER AS A COMMUNITY, AS A BUSINESS LEADER, AS A, AS A LEADING BUSINESS OWNER IN THE COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU, DAVID. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JILL. HAPPY TO DO IT. THANK YOU. WATCH, S A T X RESILIENCE WILL BE OUT THERE. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.