* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:33] THE SESSION. UH, BEFORE WE BEGIN OUR MEETING, IF WE COULD HAVE OUR SPANISH INTERPRETATION STATEMENT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, AS ALWAYS, WE GIVE A BRIEF COVID ANNOUNCEMENT. THE C D C STILL RECOMMENDS THAT YOU WEAR MASKS. IF YOU HAVE ANY SYMPTOMS AT ALL, PLEASE WEAR A MASK OR, YOU KNOW, TRY TO BE SOMEPLACE WHERE YOU'RE NOT GONNA INFECT. OTHERS. MASKS ARE AVAILABLE OVER THERE, SHOULD YOU WANT ONE? UH, THEY ARE RECOMMENDED BUT NOT REQUIRED VERY WELL. MY NAME IS JOHN BUSTAMONTE AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT FIVE ZONING COMMISSIONER. UH, I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION. IN THE SESSION, UH, I LIKE TO DO ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING EACH COMMISSIONER TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MARCO BARROS. I REPRESENT DISTRICT NINE, UH, S CAME WITH DISTRICT FOUR, ALDO ORTIZ, DISTRICT EIGHT, SUMMER GRADE HOUSE DISTRICT ONE. ROBS HYPES, DISTRICT SEVEN, MICHELLE ALIAHA, MAYORS APPOINTEE. CHARLES FLINT IS DISTRICT THREE. KEN DISTRICT SIX. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DO WE HAVE A QUORUM? A QUORUM IS PRESENT. ALRIGHT. AND I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, THANK COMMISSIONER LEGIA HOLLAND FOR JOINING THIS COMMISSION AS OUR NEW MAYORAL REP. THIS IS HER FIRST MEETING AND WE ARE VERY PLEASED TO HAVE HER. SO WELCOME. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UM, IF WE COULD, I'D LIKE STAFF TO REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE STAFF IF YOU WOULD. SO BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE MAKE SURE TO TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF. I'M SORRY. YEAH, AND I APOLOGIZE ABOUT THAT. I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING YOU. UH, MS. HERNANDEZ, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE GO OVER THE MEETING FORMAT. THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION. YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER. STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST. PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN EX INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION. FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THE REQUEST FOR THOSE THAT SIGN UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING. YOU WILL BE CALLED AN ORDER THAT YOU SIGN UP TO SPEAK. THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION. FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES. AND THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK. THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, CHAIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. [Zoning Items  ] UM, STAFF, IF WE COULD, COULD WE BEGIN BY READING OFF OUR POSTPONED, WITHDRAWN, OR PULLED ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA? YES SIR. THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE POSTPONED TODAY. WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THEY WILL BE RE NOTIFIED AND READVERTISED. SO WHEN THOSE APPLICANTS ARE READY TO COME FORWARD, THOSE WILL BE RESTARTED. [00:05:01] AND THAT'S FOR ITEM NUMBER ONE LOCATED IN THE 5,400 BLOCK OF EAST LOOP 1604, ITEM NUMBER 11, LOCATED AT 72 22 NORTHEAST LOOP FOUR 10 AND ALSO ITEM NUMBER 14 LOCATED AT 1 0 8 6 5 WEST 1604 NORTH. THOSE ITEMS WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED AT ALL TODAY. OKAY. SO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE IN THE AUDIENCE AND YOU ARE HERE FOR, UH, THE 5,400 BLOCK OF EAST LOOP 1604, THE 7 22 2 NORTHEAST LOOP FOUR 10 OR THE TEN EIGHT SIXTY FIVE WEST 1604 NORTH, YOU CAN GO ALONG YOUR WAY AND ENJOY THE REST OF THIS PROBABLY VERY HOT AFTERNOON. UM, IF YOU WANNA STICK AROUND WITH US, YOU CAN TOO, BUT YOU WILL BE NOTIFIED AGAIN AS YOU WERE NOTIFIED FOR THIS MEETING IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THOSE AND YOU CAN GO ON AND ENJOY YOUR DAY. UH, BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT AGENDA, COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE STAFF, WE NEED TO MOVE ITEM SEVEN DOWN TO THE RECUSAL DOCKET. AND THEN IF WE CAN GO OVER THOSE ITEMS ON COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE PRIOR TO READING THEM INTO THE RECORD PLEASE. THE ITEMS ELIGIBLE FOR COMBINED HEARING ONE TODAY ARE ITEM NUMBER 2 9 12 13 16, 20 21, 22. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, IS THERE ANY COMMISSIONER THAT WOULD LIKE TO PULL ANY OF THE COMBINED HEARING? NUMBER ONE ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION OR FOR CONTINUANCE? LOOKING TO MY LEFT, LOOKING TO MY RIGHT, SEEING NONE. STAFF, IF WE COULD PLEASE READ COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE INTO THE RECORD. YES, SIR. BEFORE I DO SO, I DO WANNA NOTE THAT WE HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IN FAVOR ON ITEM NUMBER 13 AND ITEM NUMBER 21. VERY GOOD. WE WILL HAVE THEM AFTER THE ITEMS ARE READ INTO THE RECORD. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R M FOUR A H O D TO R ONE A H O D LOCATED AT 8 0 3 INDIANA STREET. THERE WERE 38 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED. ITEM NUMBER NINE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM M H C TO R SIX SS WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR WIRELESS COMMUNICATION SYSTEM LOCATED AT 21 1 93 LAMB ROAD. THERE WAS ONE NOTICE MAILED, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 12 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE TO R SIX WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT ONE 70 FERRIS AVENUE. THERE WERE 36 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM COLISEUM. WILLOW NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO R SIX CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS AND ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 2 39 NORTHWEST 34TH STREET THERE WERE 31 NOTICES MAILED. TWO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND MEMORIAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO AND C THREE, EXCUSE ME, FROM TO REZONE FROM C TWO TO C THREE WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 1533 AUSTIN HIGHWAY THERE WERE 14 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND NO RESPONSE FROM OAK WILL OAK WELL FARMS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 20 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I ONE AND C THREE TO I ONE WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 55 15 INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 10 EAST. THERE WERE 15 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION. AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 21 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C ONE C TWO TO M X D WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME LOCATED, GENERALLY LOCATED, UH, AT OR IN THE, DOES IT HAVE A BLOCK? SO GENERALLY LOCATED AT EAST SOUTH CROSS BOULEVARD AND ROOSEVELT AVENUE. [00:10:01] THERE WERE 53 NOTICES MAILED. FOUR RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION. MISSION SAN JOSE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. THERE WAS ONE NOTICE RECEIVED OUTSIDE 200 FEET THAT WAS IN FAVOR. AND SOUTH TEXAS BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP IS ALSO IN FAVOR. ITEM NUMBER 22 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I ONE TO C THREE WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. AT 1 0 2 18 INGRAM ROAD, THERE WERE FOUR NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION. AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH. IF WE COULD HAVE THE CITIZENS TO BE HEARD, UH, FOR ITEMS I BELIEVE 13 AND 21. FOR ITEM NUMBER 13, WE HAVE RICHARD GARCIA. MR. GARCIA, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, UH, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF, GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US YOUR OPINION. GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, COMMISSIONER RICHARD GARCIA, UH, PRESENTER, MEMORIAL HEIGHTS. UH, ADDRESS 1 6 6 TESLA DRIVE. UM, I JUST WANTED JUST TO MENTION TO YOU, THIS IS A VERY RARE OCCASION FOR US 'CAUSE IT PROBABLY WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN FOR ANOTHER A HUNDRED YEARS OR SO, . BUT ANYWAY, WE, I'VE NEVER COMMENTED HERE AND, AND VOTED IN FAVOR OF, OF, OF THIS CASE. BUT ANYWAY, THIS CASE IS UNIQUE. IT'S NOT AN MF CASE. IT'S NOT A A A TRIPLEX OR DUPLEX OR WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? WE'VE MET WITH THE, UH, WITH THE APPLICANT, MR. TOLBERT. WE'VE MET WITH HIM NOT ONLY WEB, WEB, WEBEX. WE'VE HAD, UH, ZOOM MEETINGS WITH HIM VIA, WE'VE MET IT WITH HIM IN PERSON. WE PUT HIM UNDER STUFF, QUESTIONS, INVESTIGATIONS, UH, KIND OF LIKE A CANDIDATE GOING FOR THE SUPREME COURT, YOU KNOW? YEAH. WE, WE'VE, GIVEN WE'VE, I I THINK HE GOT A LITTLE BIT FRUSTRATED WITH US, BUT WE DO, HE'S WILLING TO WORK WITH US, MR. BUSANTE, HE'S WILLING TO WORK WITH US. HE, HE'S GONNA BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR. HE APPEARS HE'S VERY SINCERE. HE GAVE US 14 COMMITMENTS THAT HE'S, HE'S WILLING TO SHARE WITH US, UH, AND WORK WITH US. SO IN THAT, IN TALKING TOO MUCH TO THE RESIDENTS, TO THE NEIGHBORS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN FAVOR AND WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF HIM. SO IN ESSENCE, UH, LIKE I SAY, UH, THIS IS A VERY RARE, RARE OCCASION. BUT YEAH, WE WERE, WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH THEM IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY. OKAY. WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. GARCIA, AND I HOPE THAT THIS PROCESS CAN BE REPEATED IN THE FUTURE. I KNOW THAT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU TALK TO MR. TALBERT DURING THIS PROCESS, SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT, AND THANK YOU, UH, FOR BEING HERE TODAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. FOR ITEM NUMBER 21, TERESA IVANEZ AND MS. IVANEZ, THE SAME THING, INTRODUCTION, ADDRESS, AND YOUR OPINION. MY NAME IS TERESA IVANEZ. I'M PRESIDENT OF MISSION SAN JOSE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I LIVE AT 1438 NAPIER AVENUE. UM, I'M SO HAPPY THAT, UH, MR. SCHUTZ AND THE ARCHITECT JIM BAILEY, MET WITH US SEVERAL TIMES. UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT IS AN IMPORTANT PROCESS THAT THE CITY, UH, CONTINUES, UH, NURTURING THE IDEA OF THAT DIALOGUE BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE COMMUNITIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THEY ARE DEVELOPING. I THINK THAT COMMUNICATION REALLY CLARIFIES THE NEEDS OF NOT JUST THE DEVELOPER, BUT OF THOSE RESIDENTS AROUND THE DEVELOPMENT. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I REALLY LIKE ABOUT, UH, THIS DEVELOPMENT IS THAT IT'S MIXED USE AND IT'S GOING TO BECOME AN ECONOMIC GENERATOR FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE WE HAVE QUITE A FEW, UH, NUMBER OF VACANT LOTS THAT HAVE BEEN VACANT FOR MANY YEARS. UH, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A, A REALLY BEAUTIFUL ENTRYWAY TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS NOT WITHIN THE MISSION VIEW SHED, UH, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, THAT DEVELOPMENT IS, UH, A LITTLE MORE CAREFULLY, UH, PLANNED AROUND, UH, THE MISSIONS. BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A PLUS FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BRINGING IN TOURISM AND A SENSE OF PRIDE FOR MY, OUR RESIDENTS IN A VERY OLD NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, AND I I DO WANNA REITERATE THAT, UM, JAMES SCHUTZ AND JIM BAILEY HAVE MET WITH US ON NUMEROUS UH, TIMES WITH THE EXECUTIVE BOARD AND THE RESIDENTS. AND UH, I JUST WANNA THANK HIM FOR THAT. AND, UH, I KNOW THAT HE'S GOING TO WORK WITH US, CONTINUE TO WORK WITH US ON THE, THIS, THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. IVANEZ AND THANK YOU FOR WORKING, UH, WITH MR. SCHUTZ ON THIS PROJECT AS WELL. UM, IN CASE PEOPLE HAVEN'T PICKED THIS UP, APPLICANTS IN PARTICULAR WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS IS VERY IMPORTANT IN THIS PROCESS. UH, SO THAT'S WHY I'M SORT OF DWELLING ON THIS RIGHT NOW. ALRIGHT. UM, THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE ONE MORE PERSON TO BE HEARD. YES, SIR. [00:15:01] AL AREOLA. ALL RIGHT, MR. AREOLA, IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF, GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS. YES SIR. AND TELL US YOUR OPINION. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE ZONING COMMISSION. MY NAME'S OLA. MY PERSONAL ADDRESS IS 3 3 5 EAST SOUTH CROSS RIGHT NEAR, UM, THIS PROPERTY, UH, REPRESENTING THE SOUTH TEXAS BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP. OUR ADDRESS IS 3 3 1 5 SYDNEY BROOKS. UM, PERSONALLY SPEAKING, I ECHO A LOT OF THE SENTIMENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, MISSION SAN JOSE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND MEMBERS OF THE SOUTH TEXAS BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP, WE ARE EXPRESSING OUR STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE REZONING ON ROOSEVELT AND SOUTH CROSS. IN PREPARATION OF MR. LU'S DEVELOPMENT, THE PROPERTIES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT ARE CURRENTLY ZONE C TWO, WHICH LIMITS THE USE OF THE LAND GOALS, UH, CONSISTENT WITH FUTURE COMMUNITY PLANS RECOMMENDED FOR REGIONAL GROWTH FOR BOTH RESIDENCES AND BUSINESSES. THE PROPOSED CHANGE TO M X D ZONING WILL SUPPORT COHESIVE DEVELOPMENT OF MIXED USE OPPORTUNITIES DESPERATELY NEEDED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, INCLUDING RESIDENTIAL, RETAIL, SERVICE OFFICE, SMALL BUSINESS AND COMMUNITY GATHERING SPACES. A TOP GOAL OF OUR ORGANIZATION IS TO SUPPORT PROGRAMS, POLICIES, AND DEVELOPMENT THAT ATTRACT AND RETAIN BOTH RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES ACROSS SOUTH SAN ANTONIO AND SOUTH TEXAS. WE BELIEVE THE SCOPE OF MR. LUCIA'S PROPOSED PROJECT IS AN INNOVATIVE AND NECESSARY WAY TO ACTIVATE THE HERITAGE CORRIDOR FOR BOTH CURRENT MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND VISITORS OF SAN ANTONIO IN A MATTER THAT IS RESPECTFUL OF THE RICH CULTURE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THE ZONING REQUEST FROM C TWO TO M X D ALLOWING THE PROGRESS OF THIS CATALYTIC PROJECT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU, SIR. I WON'T HIT IT AGAIN, BUT NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT'S IMPORTANT. ALRIGHT, UM, COMMISSIONERS, ANY DISCUSSION ON THESE ITEMS? UH, COMMISSIONER SIPES, THIS IS JUST A CLARIFICATION. ITEM 15 WAS NOT READ, BUT I SAW IT THAT IT WAS LISTED ON THE SCREEN ORIGINALLY. IT'S FOR CONTINUANCE. OKAY. I WAS JUST MAKING SURE. THANKS. OKAY, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SIPES. UH, SEEING NO DISCUSSION, THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION. MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING ITEMS, ITEMS NUMBER TWO, NUMBER NINE, NUMBER 12, NUMBER 13. NUMBER 16, NUMBER 20, NUMBER 21. AND NUMBER 22. THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE ITEMS AS READ ON THE RECORD. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. ALRIGHT. COMMISSIONER BOTTLES IS THE SECOND DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. SEEING NONE. THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS 2 9 12 13 16, 20 21 AND 22. UH, BY COMMISSIONER SIPES. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RE BOTTLES ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER FUENTES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BURS? YES. COMMISSIONER LAG HOLLAND? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. UH, CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. WE ARE NOW GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT AGENDA. OH. BEFORE WE DO THAT, UM, IF Y'ALL WERE PRESENT FOR ANY OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, AGAIN, YOU CAN GO ON YOUR WAY, YOU CAN STAY WITH US FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF HOURS IF YOU'D LIKE. UH, YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING BETTER TO DO. UM, BUT WE ARE GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT AGENDA, WHICH IS A RECUSAL AGENDA. UH, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS LEAVING THE HEARING ROOM. THE TIME IS 1 21 AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS LEFT THE HEARING ROOM. IF WE CAN MOVE ON WITH THE, UH, RECUSAL AGENDA. THE ITEMS I HAVE TODAY FOR RECUSAL ARE ITEM 7 23 AND 24 FOR THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO MF 33 WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 9 0 3 TO 9 37 HEDGES STREET. 43 NOTICES MAILED, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE IN OPPOSITION AND DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD IS IN SUPPORT. ITEM NUMBER 23 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM F B C D TO M P C D WITH ALL OVERLAYS RE REMAINING THE SAME. GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF UNIVERSITY WAY AND JAGUAR PARKWAY. THERE WERE 14 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND ITEM NUMBER 24 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM MF TO C TWO LO. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 1 1 1 [00:20:01] CEDAR STREET. THERE WERE 26 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM KING WILLIAM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, MR. CHAIR. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. UM, ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE. IS THE FLOORS OPEN FOR A MOTION? MS. CHAIR? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ITEMS NUMBER SEVEN, NUMBER 23 AND NUMBER 24. IS THERE A SECOND? I'D SECOND. OKAY. UH, THERE WAS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 7 23 AND 24 BY COMMISSIONER S SIPES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE THE MOTIONS FOR APPROVAL OF 7 23 AND 24 BY COMMISSIONER SIPES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BURROWS? YES. COMMISSIONER LEG. HOLLAND? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. OH, EXCUSE, SORRY. UM, CHAIR BUS MONTE AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. VERY GOOD. NOW WE CAN RETRIEVE COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IF SHE'S OUT THERE. ALRIGHT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WERE HERE FOR ANY OF THOSE THREE ITEMS, YOU CAN AGAIN GO ON YOUR WAY. UH, WE ARE NOW GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR CONTINUANCE DOCKET. YES SIR. AND WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL READ ITEM NUMBER 15 AND NUMBER 17. AND NUMBER 25 IS A RECUSAL AGAIN. SO I'LL CLEAR ITEM 15 AND 17 AND THEN WE CAN GO BACK TO 25. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 15 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I ONE A H O D AND MF 33 A H O D TO C TWO A H O D ON LOT NINE AND 10 AND MF 33 CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT ON LOT B BLOCK 25 AND CB 2085. LOCATED AT 10 10 COLLIBRA ROAD. THERE WERE 31 NOTICES MAILED NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION. NO RESPONSE FROM WE WEST END HOPE IN ACTION. THIS ITEM IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO JUNE THE SEVENTH. AND ITEM NUMBER 17 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO R SIX CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY WITH NO MORE THAN 16 RESIDENTS LOCATED AT 1 0 5 4 8 AND 1 0 5 5 8 MOUNTAIN VIEW DRIVE. THERE WERE 18 NOTICES MAILED, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM MOUNTAIN VIEW NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION. THIS ITEM SEEKS A CONTINUANCE TO JUNE 21ST, MR. CHAIR. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. UM, FLOOR'S OPEN FOR A MOTION WITH RESPECTS TO ITEM 15 AND 17. MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE FOR ITEM 15 TO JUNE 7TH AND FOR ITEM NUMBER 17 TO JUNE 21ST. ALRIGHT. UH, THERE IS A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE AS READ ON THE RECORD BY COMMISSIONER S SIPES. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ALRIGHT, THERE'S A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. UH, ANY DISCUSSION? COMMERS TO MY LEFT, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. SEEING NONE. UH, THE MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE OF ITEM NUMBER 15 TO JUNE 7TH AND ITEM NUMBER 17 TO JUNE 21ST BY COMMISSIONER SIPES. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER LILIA HOLLAND? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, ONCE AGAIN, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS LEAVING THE HEARING ROOM. WE ARE MAKING SURE SHE IS GETTING HER STEPS TODAY. I HOPE SHE WORE HER FITBIT. UM, THE TIME IS 1 26 AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS LEFT THE HEARING ROOM. IF WE CAN GO ON TO THE CONTINUANCE FOR ITEM NUMBER 25 PLEASE. ITEM NUMBER 25 IS A REQUEST TO, FROM OUR FOUR AND MF 33 TO I D Z ONE WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME AND USES PERMITTED FOR SIX DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 1 0 7 RIO CITY ROAD. THERE WERE 31 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, SEVEN RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION. AND COLLINS GARDEN HAS CONCERNS BUT HAS NOT NOTED A SPECIFIC POSITION AT THIS TIME. THIS ITEM IS REQUESTING [00:25:01] A CONTINUANCE TO JUNE 7TH, MR. CHAIR. ALRIGHT. UM, THE FLOORS OPEN FOR A MOTION WITH RESPECT TO ITEM NUMBER 25. MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE FOR ITEM 25 TO THE JUNE 7TH MEETING. IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU. OH, COMMISSIONER BARTOS IS THE SECOND. ALRIGHT. UM, MOTION IS FOR CONTINUANCE OF ITEM NUMBER 25, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS. TO MY LEFT, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. SEEING NONE. THE MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE OF ITEM NUMBER 25 TO JUNE 7TH BY COMMISSIONER SIPES. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER BURROWS? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER LAG HOLLAND? YES. CHAIR BUS. AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE. ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE CAN NOW BRING COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE BACK IN. ALRIGHT, WE ARE GOING TO NOW MOVE ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION OF ITEMS. WE ARE GOING TO BEGIN, EXCUSE ME, UH, WITH ITEM NUMBER THREE. THE TIME IS 1 28 AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS, HAS RETURNED TO THE HEARING. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS ANNE BENAVIDES, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER, ITEM NUMBER THREE IS LOCATED AT ONE 17 KOHLER COURT GOING FROM R FOUR CD TO M F 18 WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. THERE WERE 28 NOTICES SENT OUT. 14 WERE RECEIVED BACK IN SUPPORT AND ZERO WERE RECEIVED BACK IN OPPOSITION. HOT WELL'S MISSION REACH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN OPPOSITION. STAFF DOES FIND LIKE EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING REQUEST. THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. AS THERE ARE NO MIXED RES, NO MULTI-FAMILY USES IN PROXIMITY TO THE SITE. THE CURRENT R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA IS ALLOWS FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS. STAFF, STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE, UH, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? MS. CRUZ, IF YOU WOULD COME UP, INTRODUCE YOURSELF, GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US ABOUT YOUR REZONING REQUEST. HELLO, MY NAME IS BETTY CRUZ. I LIVE AT 1 1 0 1 BURLESON. THAT'S MY ADDRESS. UM, MY REQUEST IS TO GO FROM THIS, UM, THE CURRENT ZONING, WHICH IS HAS A CONDITIONAL ZONING TO R M 18. WE, I WAS TOLD TO CHOOSE THAT ONE BECAUSE, UM, THAT WAS ONE THAT COULD ALLOW ME TO PUT TWO MORE UNITS. THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR. IT CURRENTLY HAS FIVE UNITS. UM, SO, AND EACH OF THOSE UNITS HAS ONE BEDROOM EXCEPT FOR ONE HAS TWO BEDROOMS. SO WHERE I WOULD PUT THE BUILDING IS RIGHT HERE WHERE IT'S IN BLACK. SO A TWO STORY BUILDING, EACH OF THEM ONE BEDROOM. UM, AND LIKE I SAID, THAT'S CURRENTLY FOUR ONE BEDROOM UNITS. AND SO THIS WOULD BE, THEY WOULD MAKE SIX ONE BEDROOM UNITS AND ONE TWO BEDROOM UNIT ON THIS PROPERTY. THIS IS THE STREET VIEW OF THE CURRENT PROPERTY. AND THE NEXT ONE WILL SHOW WHERE I WENT TO PUT THAT ANOTHER UNIT, TWO UNITS, ONE BUILDING TWO UNITS. MM-HMM. . OH. SO I WAS TOLD TO TALK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I DID SOME NEIGHBORHOOD DOOR WALKING. UM, I, I GOT LOTS OF LETTERS. I GOT SO MUCH SUPPORT. I, I JUST THOUGHT THIS ONE, I DON'T WANNA TAKE TOO MUCH TIME, BUT WAS, UM, KIND OF INDICATIVE OF THE THINGS THAT I FOUND. AND SHE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE I SPOKE TO. SHE'S THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR. UM, AND IT REALLY, IT GAVE ME A LOT OF, UM, FUEL TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK I'M GOING TO ASK EVERYONE BECAUSE SHE WAS SO POSITIVE. UM, WHEN I TOOK OVER THE PROPERTY, IT WAS IN REAL BAD SHAPE. SHE SAYS HER FAMILY WAS AFRAID FOR THEIR SAFETY AND, UM, THAT AND THEIR, AND THAT THEIR, THEIR LIVES. AND OVERALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS BETTER BECAUSE OF WHAT I HAD DONE THERE. UM, THAT JUST GAVE ME A LOT OF AFFIRMATION. I, I KNEW PEOPLE PROBABLY WERE GLAD BECAUSE IT WAS REAL BAD, BUT THEN WHEN I GOT THIS, I, I SAID, YEAH, THIS IS SOMETHING I, I WANNA KEEP PURSUING EVEN THOUGH I KNEW THAT, UM, THAT, UM, THAT STAFF HAD WAS PROBABLY GONNA RECOMMEND. NO. AND THEN ALSO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, ASSOCIATION. GO AHEAD. OR THE HOMEOWNER'S NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S WHAT IT'S CALLED. UM, SO I WENT OVER ABOUT FIVE DIFFERENT DAYS. I WALKED THE NEIGHBORHOOD THE FIRST TIME AROUND. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A RIDING. SO I'M PUT TOGETHER THIS PRESENTATION [00:30:01] AND I TOOK PIC, I MADE COPIES OF IT AND I WALKED TO EVERY SINGLE HOUSE AROUND AND I SHOWED THEM MY PRESENTATION. AND UM, YOU CAN SEE EVERY PLUS CHECK MARK IS WHAT SHE JUST SHOWED. UM, SHOWS THAT EVERY ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WROTE IN FOR ME. A LOT OF 'EM CALLED TO, I HAD ONLY ONES THAT WERE THE EMPTY LOTS AND THERE'S ONE HOUSE BECAUSE IT'S WAS DANGEROUS TO GO TO. THE NEIGHBORS TOLD ME, DON'T GO TO IT. SO I DIDN'T GO. BUT EVERY, EVERYONE ELSE WAS VERY, VERY POSITIVE. SO, UM, I, THE THING ABOUT DENSITY AND I'M, I, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE DONE THIS, I'M LEARNING, BUT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. ALL I CAN UNDERSTAND IS I THINK SHE MENTIONED THAT IT'S NOT CONGRUENT TO OTHER PROPERTIES AROUND EVERY ONE OF THESE BLUE ONES HAVE THEIR MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES. SO I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED OF WHAT THAT MEANS. SO EVERYTHING I CIRCLED, THEY HAVE AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, TWO OR MORE UNITS IN THEM. THE ONE AT THE TOP LEFT, IT'S UM, IT'S A MOTEL. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY UNITS THEY HAVE, BUT, AND THEY'RE GOOD NEIGHBORS, PEOPLE LIKE THAT, THAT, UM, PROPERTY. MM-HMM. . SO THIS REST OF IT IS, IT'S, YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS MY 10 MINUTES OF FAME. I'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO TALK ABOUT MY BUSINESS LIKE THIS. AND I, UM, I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS, THIS MAY NOT BE IMPORTANT TO YOU, BUT I WANNA TELL YOU ABOUT MY PROPERTIES. IT'S CALLED STAY KIND PROPERTIES. JUST REAL QUICK, THIS IS WHAT THIS ON THE LEFT, IT LOOKED LIKE WHEN I BOUGHT IT, UM, ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO. AND THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW. ACTUALLY I HAVE ONE LANDSCAPING THERE NOW, BUT, AND THEN THE HEAD NEXT ONE. UM, AGAIN, THESE ARE PICTURES OF WHAT IT WAS LIKE, IT WAS OVERRIDDEN. THE POLICE WENT THERE ALL THE TIME. I UNDERSTAND. UM, THERE WERE SHOOTINGS THERE, KEEP GOING. AND, UM, IT, IT WAS, UH, TAKEN EVERYBODY'S SQUATTERS, , GO AHEAD. AND SO THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW. UM, ALL OF THE UNITS, UM, ARE REAL NICE. GO AHEAD. UM, AND I HOUSE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT COME FROM, UM, DIFFERENT PLACES A LOT OF TIMES COMING TO, THEY'RE MOVING HERE AND THEY HAVE A JOB HERE AND THEY NEED A TEMPORARY PLACE BETWEEN UM, I GET A LOT OF THAT, A LOT OF, I GET UNIVERSITY TEACHERS, UM, HAVE ASSIGNMENTS HERE, COLLEGE STUDENTS FOR THE SUMMER, UM, TOYOTA PLANT WORKERS AND THEY FIND THAT THIS IS A GOOD PLACE FOR THEM TO STAY DURING THE TIME THAT, UM, THEY'RE IN SAN ANTONIO OR IN TRANSITION TO BUY A HOUSE. IT'S HARDER TO BUY A HOUSE, HARDER TO FIND PLACES TO LIVE. SO I JUST SEE A BIG NEED AND IT'S JUST WHY I WANTED TO, UM, ADD A COUPLE OF MORE UNITS ON THE PROPERTY I ALREADY OWN. UM, I DUNNO IF THERE'S ANY MORE. OH, THESE ARE JUST, JUST SCROLL THROUGH. THESE ARE MORE LETTERS PEOPLE, WHEN I TOLD THEM THE STORY, THEY WROTE LETTERS. I DON'T KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS. I'M A LITTLE EMBARRASSED, BUT, UM, I DID A LOT OF WORK SO I YOU CAN JUST GO. THEY DON'T HAVE TO READ 'EM ALL. . SO THERE'S ARE, THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR IS INTERESTING. HE STAYED FOR SEVERAL MONTHS AND UM, HE SAYS IT WAS FANTASTIC FOR THE COMMUNITY ALLOWS FOR TRAVELING BUSINESS PEOPLE LIKE ME TO HAVE AN AFFORDABLE PLACE TO STAY. IT'S BEEN A GODSEND, IT'S AN AFFORDABLE AND GREAT SPOT FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO NORMAL LIFE. WHEN I FIRST GOT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I MUST SUBMIT THAT. IT FELT A LITTLE ROUGH. IT IS A LITTLE ROUGH AROUND THE EDGES. UM, BUT AFTER SPENDING MORE THAN A MONTH HERE, IT'S ACTUALLY A NICE COMMUNITY WITH FRIENDLY PEOPLE. A LOT OF PEOPLE REALLY ENJOY GOING ACROSS THE STREET TO THE, UM, HOT WELLS PARK. SO, AND I THINK WE MISSED THE VERY FIRST PICTURE THAT HAD A PICTURE OF, THERE'S JUST MORE LETTERS. THEY DON'T HAVE TO SEE ALL THE LETTERS. WHAT'D YOU DO? THE VERY FIRST PHOTO? I DON'T THINK YOU STARTED IT WITH IT, IT WAS THE VERY THERE YOU GO. THAT'S THE HOT WELLS PARK FROM, YOU CAN SEE FROM MY PROPERTY. IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. AND, AND I'VE MOST, ALL THE PEOPLE WHO COME TO STAY WITH US AND LEARN TO ENJOY ALL THAT, IT'S KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OF A, YOU KNOW, BEST KEPT SECRET I THINK. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MS. CRUZ. UM, AFTER WE HAVE, UH, PUBLIC STATEMENTS REGARDING THIS PROJECT, YOU'LL HAVE A SHORT REBUTTAL. OKAY. ALRIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC STATEMENTS ON THIS PROJECT? YES, SIR. SEVERAL ISAAC DATE JR. EXCUSE ME, LET ME GO BACK. 'CAUSE UH, UM, MARK FLYNN FIRST AND THEN ISAAC. MR. FLYNN, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS, AND TELL US YOUR OPINION REGARDING THIS PROJECT. PLEASE. MY NAME IS MARK FLYNN. I'M AT 10 24 DAWSON STREET. I'M STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT. I HAVE, UH, BEEN INVOLVED WITH MS. CRUZ. OOPS, SORRY. IS THAT BETTER? I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH MS. CRUZ AND HER PROPERTIES FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS. UH, KNOW HER FAMILY WELL. EVERYTHING SHE'S TOUCHED, SHE HAS TAKEN FROM POOR TO WELL DONE. UH, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED AS HER CONSTRUCTION CONSULTANT AND IN SEVERAL CASES, HER CONTRACTOR. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS SHE'S NOT TELLING YOU IS THAT PART OF HER STAY KIND PROPERTIES. SHE DONATES 10% OF EVERYTHING SHE GAINS TO A LOCAL CHARITY. UM, SHE'S MADE EVERY PROPERTY BETTER. [00:35:01] UM, AND THAT'S ABOUT IT. THANK YOU, MR. FLYNN. NEXT ISAAC DATE JR. FOLLOWED BY DATE. GOOD AFTERNOON, SIR. IF YOU'D STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US YOUR OPINION REGARDING THIS PROJECT. MY NAME IS ISAAC D AND MY ADDRESS, ONE 16 KILO COURT JUST ACROSS FROM MS. BETTY'S CREW'S, UH, UH, PLACE. AND, UH, EVER SINCE SHE CAME IN AND START RE MODELIZING AND EVERYTHING, IT HAS IMPROVED, UH, CA, COURT STREET A HUNDRED PERCENT. AND, UH, AND I THINK SHE WILL DO VERY WELL WITH, UH, TWO UNITS THAT SHE PLANS TO, TO BUILD. AND IT'LL BE, UH, A MORE, UH, UH, ADVANTAGED FOR THE COMMUNITY THERE IN THE STREET. THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY. THANK YOU SIR. MARIA DATE FOLLOWED BY RENA EVANS. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS MARIA DATE, AND, UH, WE HAVE KNOWN MS. BETTY CRUZ FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS. UH, SHE HAS REALLY IMPROVED OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH WHAT SHE'S DOING. WE OWN ABOUT, UM, 10 PROPERTIES AROUND THAT COMMUNITY. AND BEFORE SHE STARTED DOING WHAT SHE'S DOING NOW, THAT PLACE THE POLICE WAS ALWAYS THERE, SHOOTINGS WERE THERE. I MEAN, THAT, THAT WAS A REALLY BAD COMMUNITY. BUT AFTER SHE TOOK OVER, IT'S BEEN VERY PEACEFUL AND WE'RE VERY GLAD THAT SHE'S DOING WHAT SHE'S DOING AND WE APPROVE. WOULD YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS, MA'AM? YOUR ADDRESS? OH, MY ADDRESS. 1 26 MONTROSE. OKAY. THANK YOU. STREET? MM-HMM. . THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. RENA EVANS, FOLLOWED BY RAUL SERRANO. ALL RIGHT. MS. EVANS, AS YOU'VE HEARD REPEATEDLY, YOUR INTRODUCTION, YOUR ADDRESS, AND TELL US ABOUT THE PROJECT. OKAY. MY NAME IS RENA EVANS. I LIVE AT 4 25 COSGROVE, AND I'VE PREPARED A WRITTEN STATEMENT, IF YOU'LL LET ME READ IT. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK TODAY ON THIS PROJECT. MY NAME IS RENA EVANS AND I'VE BEEN A LICENSED REAL ESTATE BROKER SINCE 1970. AS AN INFANT, I LIVED IN A ROOM AT THE HOT WELLS HOTEL WITH MY YOUNG PARENTS. MY MOTHER GRADUATED FROM HOT WELLS HIGH SCHOOL IN 1946, WHICH IS NOW CALLED CONNELL MIDDLE SCHOOL. SHE BOUGHT BYRON'S GROCERY STORE AT THE CORNER OF HOT WEALTH AND RUSTY JUST ACROSS FROM CONNE IN 1964 AND STARTED HER REAL ESTATE BUSINESS. I JOINED HER IN 1989 AND WE SOLD LOCAL PROPERTIES FROM THAT LOCATION UNTIL 1999. WHEN WE SOLD THE LOCATION TO THE RE MAX OFFICE. I HAVE CONTINUED TO MANAGE LOCAL PROPERTIES FROM MY HOME NEAR HIGHLANDS HIGH SCHOOL. SINCE THEN, THIS IS WHY I AM HERE TODAY. I AM A MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY. OUR AREA HAS FINALLY BEEN RECOGNIZED BY INVESTORS. THE HIGHLAND PARK, HOT WELLS COLLEGE HEIGHTS HOMES IN THE SAME ARE IN THE SAME ERA, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION AS THE HOMES IN SOUTH TOWN. THEY'RE JUST TWO MILES FURTHER SOUTH. THE INVESTORS AND FLIPPERS HAVE ARRIVED AS YOUR STRIKE TEAM HAS NOTICED. I PERSONALLY KNOW MS. CRUZ AND HAVE WATCHED HER DEVELOPMENT OF HER PROPERTIES IN OUR COMMUNITY AND ELSEWHERE IN SAN ANTONIO. I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT HER INTEREST IN PROVIDING SAFE, CLEAN, AND ADEQUATE HOUSING IN THIS COMMUNITY IS UP UTMOST IMPORTANCE TO HER AND HER TEAM. SHE HIRES LICENSED CON CONTRACTORS AND CRAFTSMAN PULLS PERMITS AND OVERSEES THE RENOVATION OF HER PRODUCTS, PROJECTS. SHE PLAYS BY THE RULES. THIS COMMUNITY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH REACH OF [00:40:01] SAN ANTONIO RIVER NEEDS MORE INVESTORS WITH THE INTEGRITY THAT MS. CRUZ HAS. HER PROJECTS ARE AN ASSET TO THE SOUTH SIDE. I PERSONALLY KNOW SHE PERSONALLY KNOWS HER NEIGHBORS, HER CONTRACTORS, AND HER TENANTS. SHE DOES BACKGROUND CHECKS ON ALL TENANTS TO PROVIDE ASSURANCE OF SAFETY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS PROJECT LOCATED JUST ACROSS FROM HOT WHEELS PARK HAS PROVIDED HOUSING FOR PROFESSIONALS IN TRANSITION, NEEDING ACCESS TO DOWNTOWN. THE PARK PROVIDES RECREATION FOR THESE TENANTS. I ATTENDED THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING IN APRIL. QUESTIONS WERE ASKED AND ANSWERED BY MS. CRUZ. NO VOTE WAS TAKEN AND MOST POSITIVE COMMENTS WERE MADE. OUR COMMUNITY LOOKS FORWARD TO MORE PROJECTS ESTABLISHED BY MRS. CRUZ. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. MS. EVANS. RAUL SERRANO. OH, MY NAME IS RAUL SERRANO AND I LIVE AT 1 58 MONTROSE STREET IN THE HOT WALLS AREA. I AM A MEMBER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, BUT I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT I KNOW THAT YOU WILL HEAR LATER THAT, THAT, THAT WE ARE NEUTRAL. I SAW MANY PEOPLE AT THE LAST MEETING THAT WERE FOR THIS PROJECT. IN FACT, I DIDN'T SEE ONE THAT WAS AGAINST IT. UM, UH, THIS IS A POSITIVE, UH, ADDITION TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. ABSOLUTELY. AND, UH, THE WAY THAT, UM, UH, THE, THE OWNER IS, UH, USING 10% OF THE INCOME FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS, IS OUTSTANDING. IT'S, IT'S NOT EVEN DONE VERY OFTEN. UM, THE SCALE OF THE PROJECT IS JUST RIGHT FOR THAT STREET. I WAS OPPOSED TO ANOTHER PROJECT ABOUT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THAT WANTED TO PUT 18 UNITS IN A VERY TIGHT SPACE WHERE I THOUGHT EMERGENCY VEHICLES COULD NOT GET THROUGH. AND SO I THOUGHT IT WAS ONLY RIGHT TO COME AND TELL YOU WHERE THERE WAS THIS POSITIVE ADDITION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I HOPE THAT YOU APPROVE THIS PROJECT. UM, I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF, UH, I AM A MEMBER OF THE ASSOCIATION. I'VE BEEN THE OFFICER OF THE ASSOCIATION ALSO, BUT I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF TODAY THAT I HOPE YOU DO APPROVE THIS. THANK YOU, MR. SANO BRADY ALEXANDER. MR. MY NAME IS BRADY ALEXANDER. I RESIDE AT 1 8 3 9 EAST PIRON 7 8 2 2 3 REPRESENTING THE HOT WELLS MISSION REACH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE HOT WELLS AREA IS HISTORIC, WHETHER IT'S, UM, DESIGNATED OR NOT WITH HOUSES OVER A HUNDRED YEARS OLD. UM, IN 2016, THERE WAS AN AREA WIDE REZONING ALONG WITH THE CITY TO ELIMINATE INAPPROPRIATELY ZONED PROPERTIES. UM, INDUSTRIAL AND MF WERE TARGETED. UM, THAT WAS TO ENSURE THAT HEARINGS LIKE THIS OCCURRED AND THE PEOPLE HAVE A VOICE. IF IT WERE NOT FOR THAT, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY. AND IT IS MY JOB AS PRESIDENT OF THE ORGANIZATION TO ENSURE THAT DIALOGUE OCCURS BETWEEN ANY DEVELOPER, PROPERTY OWNER, ET CETERA. WHEN A VARIANCE OR A ZONING TAKES PLACE 40 HOURS PRIOR TO THE LAST HEARING, WE HAD RECEIVED NO ACCURATE INFORMATION TO DISSEMINATE TO OUR MEMBERS OR COMMUNITY IN THE AREA. SO WE DO A, UM, OPPOSITION AND THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES SOMETIMES, AND THAT IS OUR ONLY RECOURSE. THE CITY STAFF RECOMMENDING DENIAL WAS NOT ENOUGH TO GET A CONTINUANCE ON IT, BUT THAT WAS MOVING FORWARD. OUR VOTING PROCEDURES ARE, WE DON'T ADVOCATE PRO OR CON ON A PROJECT. WE HAND OUT FLYERS WITHIN 200 FOOT OR UP TO 36 TOTAL. IN THIS CASE, 36 GOES OUT TO ABOUT 300 FEET. IT'S ONE PROPERTY, ONE VOTE, NOT A PERCENTAGE. BASED ON LOT SIZE AS THE CITY DOES, WE DO NOT ALLOW FOR STACKING, MEANING 300 UNIT COMPLEX DOESN'T HAVE 300 VOTES, BUT WE DO TAKE THE RENTER'S INPUT JUST AS THE PROPERTY OWNERS. WE DO NOT RECOGNIZE INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVE OUTSIDE OF OUR BOUNDARIES. BUT WE DO COUNT THE APPLICANT IF THEY DO AS A PRO VOTE. I RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS VOTE DUE TO THE FACT I OWN MULTIPLE PROPERTIES IN THE REGION. AND IF THIS PASSES, I CAN USE THAT AS A PREREQUISITE FOR UPZONING. IF I, IF I CHOOSE TO, I CHOOSE NOT TO. BUT, UM, [00:45:01] THERE IS THAT POTENTIAL. SO THAT IS WHY I DO NOT COUNT MY VOTE IF I, IF I CHOOSE TO DO THAT. SOME POSITIVES THAT WERE MENTIONED ABOUT THE PROPERTY WERE THAT IT'S A REHAB, NOT A TEAR DOWN OF EXISTING STRUCTURES CURRENTLY MAINTAINS THE STYLE, ET CETERA. SOME NEGATIVES WERE, IT'S ZONED R FOUR, BUT THERE ARE FIVE UNITS CURRENTLY BEING DONE ON IT. IT'S ALSO ADVERTISED BY THE NIGHT. FOUR OF THOSE FIVE UNITS ARE ADVERTISED AS SHORT TERM RENTALS. AND THE PARKING CONCERNS THAT WOULD BE THERE WOULD BE PARKING A LOT ALONG THE STREET. THERE WAS SOME, UH, ASSOCIATED CONCERNS ABOUT LANDSCAPING, ET CETERA. BUT, UM, WE'RE VERY CONCERNED THAT, UH, THE PROPERTY IS BEING ADVERTISED AS THAT, AND MAY CONTINUOUS THAT ARE, UM, POSITION ON IT IS NEUTRAL DUE TO THE FACT THAT MOST, UH, INDIVIDUALS DID NOT RESPOND. WE DON'T CONSIDER A NO RESPONSE, A NO OR A YES. AND, UM, WE HOPE THAT, UM, THIS HAS GIVEN THE COMMUNITY ENOUGH TIME TO SPEAK ON IT. THANK MR. ALEXANDER. ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, SIR. WE HAVE FIVE VOICEMAILS TO PLAY. ALRIGHT. IF WE COULD DO THAT, PLEASE. HELLO, MY NAME'S ALEJANDRA MARTINEZ AND I, UH, MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 440-4452. AND THE CASE NUMBER I'M CALLING ABOUT IS 0 6 8. AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I AM IN FAVOR FOR THE REZONING ON THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 1 7 CODER. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO GIVE ME A CALL. I AM A, UM, PROPERTY OWNER OF A PROPERTY, JUST A FEW STREETS DOWN ON 1 0 5 MOUNT VERNON. MY HUSBAND AND I ARE OWNERS OF THAT PROPERTY. UM, THERE'S PLENTY OF DIFFERENT MOS AROUND THE AREA AND WORK FOR DEVELOPING NEW, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, WHICH IS WHAT THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THIS CASE NUMBER IS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IN THE AREA. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO ME. UM, AND JUST TO CONCLUDE, I'M FURTHER RE DONNING. THANK YOU. THIS IS GLORIA GARCIA, LIVE AT 1 25 KOHLER COURT, CT SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO TWO THREE. TELEPHONE NUMBER (210) 254-6762. CASE NUMBER 0 6 8. I'M CALLING FOR, UM, PROPERTY ON CORNER OF KOHLER COURT TO ADD A UNIT. I THINK IT'S, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT REALLY GOOD FOR A SECOND UNIT TO BUILD. UM, I HAVE SEEN THE WHOLE PROPERTY UPGRADE REALLY NICE, SO I THINK IT'D BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. HI THERE, MY NAME IS MANA I, ALAMO, UH, COMPANY IS PEACE MANAGEMENT. I OWN THE PROPERTY OVER AT 3 0 6 KOHLER COURT. THIS IS REGARDING CASE NUMBER 0 6 8. I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE REZONING FOR THIS PARTICULAR CASE. UH, HOPE YOU HAVE A NICE DAY AND, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO CALL IN AND, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, SAVE MY SUPPORT. HAVE A GOOD DAY. BYE-BYE. MY NAME IS ISAAC DAY. MY, UH, UH, ADDRESS IS STEPH, MR. D YOU CAN SKIP THAT ONE. ONE 15 TAYLOR COURT. AND MY PHONE NUMBER IS TWO 10. OKAY. THAT'S ALL OF THEM. AND WHAT HE SAID WAS HE'S IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST AND THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, MS. CRUZ, UH, A BRIEF REBUTTAL OR [00:50:01] STATEMENT I GUESS. THANK YOU. UM, OKAY. WELL THAT WAS A SAMPLING OF WHAT I GOT TO DO FOR FIVE DIFFERENT TIMES WHEN I TALKED TO ALL THE NEIGHBORS. LUCKILY I SPEAK SPANISH AND SEVERAL OF THEM SPOKE SPANISH, BUT I MADE GOOD FRIENDS AND IT WAS REALLY, IT WAS VALUABLE. UM, THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO WRAP UP WITH IS A FEW THINGS THAT THE, THE CONCERNS ARE WHAT WAS EXPRESSED BY, UM, MR. ALEXANDER. IT, IT'S, UM, AS YOU KNOW, IT'S R FOURTH WITH CD CONDITIONAL USE. SO IT IS HAD THE CONDITIONAL USAGE ALREADY ESTABLISHED WHEN I PURCHASED THE PROPERTY. UM, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, LET ME KNOW. UM, SO, AND THEN, UM, I DON'T RENT BY THE NIGHT. UM, I, I HAVE A, I HAPPEN TO ADVERTISE IT THROUGH AIRBNB, BUT IT'S 30 DAYS OR MORE. THE AVERAGE STAYS TWO MONTHS. THEY STAY FROM ONE MONTH TO FIVE MONTHS. BUT, UM, MOST OF THEM, I DO HAVE A, A LONG-TERM RENTER TOO. SHE'S HAS A YEAR CONTRACT. I'VE JUST FOUND THAT IT'S A STRONG NEED AND SO I'M ABLE TO KEEP PROFESSIONALS AND, UM, DIFFERENT PEOPLE AROUND IN THE COMMUNITY WHO NEED PLACES FOR DIFFERENT REASONS. SO I, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT IT'S NOT BY THE NIGHT. AND SO IT WON'T, IT'S NOT LIKE THAT. AND IT'S WONDERFUL CONTRIBUTORS WHO STAY THERE. UM, PARKING CONCERN, UH, IF WE CAN LOOK AT THE PARKING, I, I HAVE LOTS OF EXTRA PARKING AVAILABLE CURRENTLY. I'VE NEVER SEEN ANY ONE OF MY TENANTS OR UH, PARK ON THE STREET EVER. THEY, BECAUSE THEY HAVE SO MUCH ROOM. CURRENTLY, I HAVE MORE ROOM THAN THAT BECAUSE THAT BUILDING'S NOT THERE. BUT, UM, IN FACT THERE WAS AN EVENT AT THE HOT WELLS, UH, ON NEW YEAR'S AND I WENT TO OVER THERE AND MET THE POLICEMEN AND OFFERED THEM TO PARK ON MY LOT BECAUSE THERE WAS NO PARKING IN THE AREA. SO I HAVE A LOT OF ROOM. UM, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LANDSCAPING CONCERN WAS. I'M, I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT'S ABOUT, BUT I'M ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MR. ALRIGHT. THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE, SO WE WILL GO TO COMMISSIONER FUENTES WHO'S ON MY RIGHT TODAY AND IT'S CONFUSING ME. UM, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FUENTES TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. UH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, ACTUALLY, MS. CRUZ, DO I NEED TIME PLEASE? SORRY. AND IT'S PROBABLY WORTH IT, MS. CRUZ, JUST TO STAY IN THE FRONT ROW. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR, FOR, UH, YOUR PRESENTATION. UM, I DID WANNA ADDRESS, UH, SOME, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS AND YOU TOUCHED ON, UH, BRIEFLY. UH, SO THERE WAS SOME CONCERN AROUND THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL STATUS. UH, WE KNOW THAT YOU AREN'T CURRENTLY GETTING ANY RENTERS, UH, FOR LESS THAN 30 DAYS, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. BUT YOU ARE STILL ADVERTISING ON A, USING A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, UH, PLATFORM. YES. PLATFORM. OKAY. AND, UH, LET'S SEE, ONE OTHER QUESTION. AND ON THE PARKING, UH, EVERYTHING THAT IS SHOWN IN YOUR SITE PLAN, THAT'S WHAT YOU PROPOSE TO, TO MAINTAIN WITH YOUR DEVELOPMENT? OH YES, ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, UM, IF YOU GO TO THE ONE BEFORE, WELL EVERYTHING IS THERE RIGHT NOW, I JUST ADDED GO AHEAD AND ONE BEFORE SO YOU CAN SEE, UM, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW AND ALL THOSE PARKING AREAS ARE THERE ALREADY, REALLY. SO I JUST KIND OF SHOWED THEM TO YOU. UM, GO BACK, BACK UP AGAIN. UM, YEAH, SO I HAVE A CARPORT IN THE BACK AND THEN THOSE TWO, I MEAN, YEAH, THAT'LL STAY THERE AND, AND I'LL ADD THE, THE MORE ON THE SIDE THAT, THAT AREA TOO. AND, UH, I JUST WANTED TO GO BACK TO THE SHORT TERM RENTAL THING. MM-HMM. . UM, SO THE CONCERN ISN'T BECAUSE YOU MIGHT, YOU KNOW, NOT OPERATE THIS IN A, IN A GOOD MANNER, BUT BECAUSE THE ZONING WILL CHANGE PERMANENTLY AND STAY WITH THIS PROPERTY, I UNDERSTAND WE DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ANYONE WHO DOES COME INTO POSSESSION OF THIS PROPERTY MAINTAINS A A GOOD STANDING IN THE COMMUNITY AND, UH, RUNS A GOOD OPERATION AS YOU'VE BEEN DOING. SO. UM, BUT THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR YOU. I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. SO, UM, REGARDING THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL STATUS, I KNOW THAT IT'S, IT'S 30 DAYS OR LESS. UM, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE COULD DO TO ADDRESS THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL STATUS OR USE OF THIS PROPERTY AS SHORT-TERM RENTAL STATUS? BEING THAT IT'S A MF 18, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO DO CONDITIONS THAT DID NOT BE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, YOU CAN'T DO THAT WITH, WITH THE ZONING? NO. THAT WHAT OUR SHORT-TERM RENTAL PERMIT PROCESS HAS A PROCESS IN PLACE THAT INCLUDES, UH, CRITERIA SUCH AS, UH, DENSITY LIMITATIONS. SO THAT WAY IT, IT IS CONTROLLED THROUGH THOSE MECHANISMS. AND OF COURSE WE HAVE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT, UH, CRITERIA AS WELL. WE ARE FINDING THAT MORE AND MORE PEOPLE, LONG-TERM RENTAL, UM, PROPERTIES ARE UTILIZING THESE ADDITIONAL PLATFORMS IN ORDER TO MARKET THEIR PROPERTIES. BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A SHORT-TERM RENTAL. [00:55:01] GOT IT. THANK YOU. UH, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE RIGHT NOW. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FUENTES. UH, WE'LL START OFF WITH COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. DOES, UH, TO FOLLOW UP ON, UH, COMMISSIONER FUENTES? DOES THIS, DOES, DOES STAFF KNOW IF, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL? WHAT IS IT? LICENSE PERMIT. THANK YOU. RIGHT NOW THERE IS ONE REGISTERED FOR THIS PROPERTY AS A TYPE TWO SHORT-TERM RENTAL. BUT THAT WOULD BE FOR ONE UNIT, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SIPES, UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. COULD YOU TELL ME HOW MANY PARKING SPACES YOU HAVE HERE? I SEE THAT YOU'RE SHOWING, IT LOOKS LIKE 14. HOW MANY? 14. 14 PARKING SPACES. OKAY. AND THOSE ARE TO CODE THE SIZE OF A PARKING SPACE? THE ONES THAT ARE THERE RIGHT NOW, THE ONES ON THE FAR LEFT AREN'T THERE YET? THE THE FOUR THERE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT THERE. I MEAN, I HAVE A GRAVEL. OH, WE PRACTICED KNOWING HOW TO RE I THINK I, YOU ASKED ME ABOUT THIS, RIGHT? IT'S ONE OF YOU EMAILED ME BACK ABOUT IT. IT'S GOT AN, UM, A GRAVEL PARKING SPACES WITH, UM, BASE WITH GRAVEL ON IT. THAT'S WHAT IT'S . OKAY, THANK YOU. AND ALL OF THOSE HAVE THAT. AND IN MY NEW ONES PROBABLY WHEN I, IF I GET TO DO THIS, I'LL UPGRADE ALL OF THAT. IT'LL JUST BE ALL PART OF THE, THE BUILDING. OKAY, THANK YOU. MM-HMM. , UM, YOU MENTIONED AFFORDABLE HOUSING. UM, I'VE NEVER SAID THAT WORD . I TRY NOT TO. IT'S BEEN MENTIONED. I KNOW PEOPLE SAY IT MULTIPLE TIMES. SO I DID WANNA ASK YOU ABOUT WHAT YOUR RENTS ARE THAT YOU'RE CHARGING. OKAY. I LOVE THAT QUESTION. WELL, I DON'T LOVE IT. I LEARNED EARLIER ON IN THIS PROGRESS PROCESS THAT PEOPLE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. HOUSING IS, IF IT'S SECTION EIGHT OR SOMETHING, TO ME IT MEANS I LEARNED FROM COMING TO Y'ALL'S MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO, SOMEBODY CALLED IT A M SOMETHING, A M I M I, MEDIAN INCOME. THERE WE GO. YES. THAT IS WHAT IT IS. UM, THEY, WELL IF SOMEBODY, I I DO HAVE ONE OF THEM AS AN, UM, SURE. I, WHEN I FIRST BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA DO A SHORT-TERM RENTAL. SO I GOT THE PERMIT, I HAVE OTHERS AROUND TOWN, I KNOW THE PROCESS. AND THEN WHEN I STARTED GETTING PEOPLE STAYING FOR MONTHS AT A TIME, I, I WENT, WOW. SO THEN I, THE NEXT ONE, I HAD A FULL TERM, A YEAR LONG RENTER. AND THEN WHEN HE LEFT I SAID, I'M GONNA TRY ANOTHER ONE AGAIN. THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING TO SAN ANTONIO THAT CAN'T FIND A PLACE TO LIVE. SO MY ANSWER IS, IT COSTS, IT'S, UM, FOR SOMEONE WHO'S STAYING FOR A MONTH, IT, IT VARIES BECAUSE THE PRICE IS VARY ON MARKET VALUE. BUT I, THEY PAY PROBABLY ABOUT FOR A MONTH. 'CAUSE I WANNA BE SUPER TRUTHFUL. I DON'T GET AS MUCH AS THE, BECAUSE AIRBNB, THAT PLATFORM TAKES SOME OF THE MONEY. UM, SO FOR A ONE BEDROOM THEY PAY PROBABLY AROUND 1500 FOR THE MONTH. IT'S ALL BILLS PAID, INCLUDES INTERNET USE OF THE LAUNDRY ROOM. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU. UM, OKAY, I THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR YOU. I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. OKAY. SO THIS, WAS THIS PROPERTY ACTUALLY PART OF THE REZONING THAT MR. ALEXANDER MENTIONED IN 2016? YES, IT WAS, IT WAS REZONED FROM R FOUR TO THE CONDITIONAL USE WITH FOUR DWELLING UNITS. AND IT'S FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS. BUT WE'RE SEEING THAT THERE ARE FIVE BEING OPERATED. YES. 'CAUSE AT THAT TIME, BASED ON THE LAND USE, UH, AND THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCEDURES, YOU CAN GO ONLY GO UP TO FOUR. IT CAN'T GO UP TO FIVE. IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE BEEN REZONED TO MULTIFAMILY AND THAT WOULD'VE ALSO, UH, COULD HAVE INCLUDED OTHER STEPS. BUT WE JUST ZONED IT BASED ON WHAT THE LAND USE CALLED FOR AT THAT TIME. BUT SO CURRENTLY IT'S NON-CONFORMING. CURRENTLY IT'S NON-CONFORMING. IT WAS NON-CONFORMING BEFORE. OKAY, PERFECT. UM, AND THEN, UH, CORRECTION, IT WAS NOT NON-CONFORMING BEFORE, SORRY. OKAY. IT WAS DOWN ZONED. SO IT WAS DOWN ZONED AND AT THAT TIME THERE WERE TO STAFF'S KNOWLEDGE WHEN IT WAS REZONED, THERE WERE FOUR UNITS. YES. AND NOW THERE ARE FIVE. THERE ARE FIVE ACCORDING TO WHAT WE'RE BEING PRESENTED WITH. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU. AND THEN GOING BACK TO THE S T R, THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL SITUATION, UM, HOW MANY SHORT-TERM RENTALS WOULD BE ALLOWED ON THIS BLOCK? TYPE TWO STR DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION? I DON'T KNOW THE TOTAL NUMBER OF, OF UNITS ON THE BLOCK, BUT IT'S SUBJECT TO A 12.5 DENSITY LIMITATION. SO 12.5%. RIGHT. AND SO IF SOMEONE IS ADVERTISING FOUR UNITS ON AN AIRBNB PLATFORM AND THEY [01:00:01] HAVE ONE SS T R, HOW WOULD THE CITY CONTROL THAT? THOSE UNITS ARE NUMBER ONE, BEING RENTED FOR 30 OR MORE DAYS. AND NUMBER TWO, THAT ONLY ONE OF THOSE IS BEING OPERATED AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL AT ANY GIVEN TIME. IS THERE ANY CITY CONTROL OVER THAT? IT'S GONNA DEPEND ON THEIR HOT TAX SUBMITTAL. SO IF THEY'RE SUBMITTING HOT TAX RETURNS FOR FOUR UNITS, THEN THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE, UH, FOUR PERMITS AND THEY'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT REVIEW PROCESS BECAUSE NOT ALL FOUR WOULD BE ALLOWED ON THE SAME PROPERTY. THAT WILL, THAT WILL KICK IN A, AN ADDITIONAL STEP, WHICH OUR SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE REQUIRES IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER REBUTTALS, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR, BUT I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT THE APPLICANT. UH, I THINK IT'S GREAT TO RENOVATE AND OFFER HOUSING, UH, OPPORTUNITIES. SO I THINK, UH, I, I'LL VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. RE BOTTLES, UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSION TO MY RIGHT QUESTION? YES, FIRST QUESTION TO THE STAFF, AND THIS IS A VERY ELEMENTARY QUESTION, SO BEAR WITH ME. IS THERE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF DESIGNATION THAT WOULD ALLOW THE ADDITIONAL UNIT BUT STILL, UM, MITIGATE THE, THE FEAR OR CONCERN AROUND, UH, 18 LIMIT THAT COMES WITH THIS REQ REQUESTED ZONING? IS THERE A MIDDLE GROUND HERE? SO, UH, THE WAY OUR, OUR DEFINITIONS OF WHAT MULTIFAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY ARE IN OUR CODE IS MULTI, IT'S, IT'S DESIGNATED AS MULTIFAMILY WHEN IT'S FIVE OR MORE UNITS. SO WHEN ONE PROPERTY WANTS TO HAVE FIVE OR MORE UNITS, THEY HAVE TO REQUEST AN MF ZONING DISTRICT. OUR LOWEST ONE IS 18 UNITS PER ACRE, THEN 25, 33, SO ON AND SO FORTH. UM, A CONDITIONAL USE PROCEDURE ONLY ALLOWS US TO PULL UP TO FOUR UNITS BECAUSE FIVE KICKS IN THE MF DESIGNATION. UH, SO WITH THE MF DESIGNATION, SHE WOULD BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM BASED ON THE ACREAGE OF SEVEN UNITS. NOW THAT'S THE MAXIMUM, BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO MEET THE MINIMUM DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. YOU HAVE TO MEET SETBACKS, YOU HAVE TO MEET PARKING REQUIREMENTS, YOU HAVE TO MEET, UM, OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS, ALL THOSE THINGS KICKED IN. SO EVEN THOUGH A PROPERTY, LET'S SAY IS, IS AN ACRE AND YOU CAN, AND IT'S ZONED MF 33, YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO FIT 33 UNITS. MAYBE YOU'LL FIT 30 31 BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO MEET ALL OF THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT LOOKING AT YOU, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? NO. ALRIGHT. COMMISSIONER FUENTES TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION PLEASE. I'D ALSO LIKE TO COMMEND THE APPLICANT ON HER OUTREACH IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, AS WELL AS WITH THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. UM, AS I'VE SAID AND AS WE'VE ALL SAID THAT THAT DOES GO FAR. UM, BEFORE I MOVE FORWARD, I DID WANNA JUST CLARIFY ONE THING. YOU SAID STAFF THAT ANY MAXIMUM OF SEVEN UNITS WOULD BE AVAILABLE. SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED? UH, MF 18 WOULD ALLOW UP TO SEVEN UNITS, BUT AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO MEET ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AS FAR AS THE UH, PARKING STANDARDS FOR THE MF 18 AS THE APPLICANT SHOWED, UM, ADEQUATE PARKING FOR ALL UNITS. SO, UH, THE RATIO IS 1.5 SPACES WHEN SHE MEET THREE OR MORE UNITS. AND SO YEAH, SHE SHOWS THE ADEQUATE NUMBER THAT SHE NEEDS AND THEN SOME. THANK YOU. UM, I'D LIKE TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL ON THIS CASE A SECOND FOR THE MOTION. ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES, UH, FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS. UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER FUENTES. DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT, COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. UM, THIS IS A DIFFICULT CASE. UM, I APPRECIATE WHAT THE APPLICANT IS DOING TO HELP IMPROVE THE AREA. HOWEVER, THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL SITUATION HERE GIVES ME GREAT PAUSE, UM, FOR MULTIPLE REASONS. UM, ONE OF WHICH BEING THE FACT THAT WE ARE IN AN A HOUSING CRISIS IN SAN ANTONIO, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A THING OF THE PAST, UM, AND OUR COMMUNITY AND IT'S REALLY AFFECTING NEIGHBORS AND THEIR ABILITIES TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES. WE'VE SEEN A HUGE INCREASE IN, UM, PROPERTY TAX VALUATIONS, ESPECIALLY OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS. AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN AND OPERATING, UM, SHORT-TERM RENTALS. AND I RESPECT [01:05:01] THE FACT THAT THE APPLICANT, UM, HAS REPRESENTED THAT SHE IS MAKING HER STAYS BE 30 DAYS OR LONGER. HOWEVER, THERE IS NO WAY FOR THE CITY TO CONTROL THAT. UM, AND REMEMBERING THAT ZONING IS IN PERPETUITY. UM, I JUST HAVE GREAT CONCERNS FOR WHAT THIS POTENTIALLY, UM, COULD MEAN FOR FOLKS IN THE AREA. WHILE I UNDERSTAND IT IS POTENTIALLY AN IMPROVEMENT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE, UM, UPSHOT OF THAT CAN ALSO BE THE FACT THAT IT DRIVES PEOPLE OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL, WHO THEN DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO GO. UM, EVEN $1,500 A MONTH IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY CAN AFFORD TO PAY. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT, UM, WITH RESPECT TO ZONING IS PUBLIC POLICY. AND I THINK THAT THE PUBLIC POLICY, UM, IN FAVOR OF PROVIDING AFFORDABLE, TRUE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, NOT JUST AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON A SHORT-TERM BASIS, IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY. SO THEREFORE, I I JUST CANNOT SUPPORT THIS MOTION DESPITE THE FACT THAT I RESPECT WHAT THE APPLICANT IS DOING. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMERS TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT. UM, I UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER, GREAT HOUSE'S CONCERN, UM, BUT I TAKE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT VIEW OF IT. UM, WHEN I LOOK AT IT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE 30 DAY MINIMUM SEEMS TO TAKE IT OUT OF SORT OF THE TYPE TWO SHORT-TERM RENTAL BASKET. UM, BUT WHAT I SEE IS AN MF 18 THAT SEEMS APPROPRIATE TO BRING SEVEN UNITS TO THIS PROPERTY. UM, IT MAY NOT BE SUFFICIENT UNTO ITSELF TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUES, BUT IN THE AGGREGATE OVER TIME, I THINK THIS KIND OF BUILDING WOULD BE APPROPRIATE ALONG PRESA, WHICH I HAVE TO DRIVE ALL THE TIME BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER LOVES CANES AND I HAVE TO GO DOWN TO SOUTHEAST MILITARY TO GET 'EM. UM, AND, UM, SO I DRIVE THIS STRETCH OF ROAD QUITE FREQUENTLY, MORE THAN I'D CARE TO. UM, AND I THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT HERE. UM, I HOPE THAT IT WILL EVENTUALLY LEAD TO LONGER TERM STABLE APARTMENTS, UP AND DOWN THIS AREA OF PRESA. AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD FIRST STEP THAT HAS SHOWN A GREAT DEAL OF SUPPORT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IF NOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. UM, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER THREE BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER FUENTES? YES. COMMISSIONER BURROWS? YES. COMMISSIONER? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE. AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? NO. COMMISSIONER LIA HOLLAND? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? NO. COMMISSIONER SNY. UM, SIPES? YES. CHAIR BUS. AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING MS. CRUZ. GOOD LUCK. UM, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON NOW. NOPE, WE'RE NOT MOVING ON. I'M SORRY. UH, I HAD MADE A MISTAKE. MS. HOFFMAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT REGARDING ITEM NUMBER 25. UH, WE'RE, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO HEAR THAT NOW. UH, BUT WE ARE DONE WITH ITEM THREE. WE'RE JUST GOING BACK NOW TO ITEM 25, WHICH HAS BEEN CONTINUED, UM, TO JUNE 7TH. BUT WE DID WANT TO GIVE MS. HOFFMAN, WHO WAS PRESENT A CHANCE TO SPEAK. AND I'M SORRY I SAW YOU BACK THERE AND I SHOULD HAVE CALLED YOU UP. YES, SIR. AND THERE'S ALSO A GENTLEMAN BY THE NAME OF LIO SPILLER THAT DIDN'T NUMBER, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT ITEM HE WAS HERE FOR. IT'S FOR THAT ONE AS WELL. VERY GOOD. UH, WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST? LADIES, MS. HOFFMAN, WE'LL START WITH YOU. THANK YOU. YES, THANK YOU. UM, IRMA HOFFMAN, UH, UH, ADDRESS IS 30 11 WHITE TAIL, BUT I AM, UH, THE OWNER OF 1 0 2 MERIDA. UH, THIS IS A LONG GENERATIONAL AREA OF, OF SMALL FAMILIES WHO HAVE SMALL CASITAS. UM, UM, COULD YOU PLEASE PUT SOME OF THE PHOTOS THERE? 'CAUSE I JUST WANNA SHOW THAT. THANK YOU. RIGHT. WHOA. UH, THERE. RIGHT THERE. THANK YOU. UM, FAMILIES LIVE ALL ALONG THIS SMALL ALLEY. IT USED TO BE TRAIN TRACKS THE UNION. IT, IT IS OWNED BY THE UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD. IT, THE TRAIN TRACKS WERE PULLED OUT OVER 50 YEARS AGO, BUT PEOPLE STILL CONTINUE TO LIVE AND WORK THERE. UM, WE HAVE CONCERNS OF, OF THE, UM, UH, OWNER WANTING TO BUILD A TWO STORY, UH, DUPLEX WITH SIX UNITS. UM, WE ALREADY HAVE CRAMMED CONDITIONS RIGHT THERE WHERE THE CHILDREN PLAY THAT FROM OUR UNDERSTANDING WILL NOT BE PAVED [01:10:01] OR WORKED ON BECAUSE IT BELONGS TO THE UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD. UM, SO, UH, WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. THE TWO STORY BUILDING THAT THEY PROPOSE IS CONTRARY TO THE CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, IT ALSO IMPACTS THE DENSITY. UH, WE WOULD HAVE OVER MAYBE 25, 30 PEOPLE MOVING IN THAT SMALL CORNER, PERHAPS ABOUT, UH, AT LEAST 12 CARS. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY WOULD PARK THEM. UM, AND ALSO, UH, THEY'RE REAL CONCERNED ABOUT THE HIGHER TAXATION THAT IS ALREADY, WOULD BE ADDITIONALLY OCCURRING. UM, SO, UM, WE, UH, WE ALSO, THERE WAS A HISTORIC MARKER RIGHT ON THE CORNER OF THE, UM, THAT IS PART OF THE CHIS HOME, CHIS HOME TRAIL. WE HAVE BEEN RAISED AROUND THE STOCKYARDS AND THE, WHAT THEY CALL MATANZAS, WHERE THEY BUTCHERED RIGHT THERE IN THE CORRALS. WE LIVED AROUND THE CORRALS AND THE TRAIN TRACKS. SO, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE THERE ARE VERY CONCERNED AS TO SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO JUST PLACE A TWO STORY APARTMENT BUILDING THAT, UM, DOESN'T TAKE THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD CATOS INTO CONSIDERATION. UH, FROM OUR UNDERSTANDING, UH, THE DEVELOPER WAS HERE, UH, AND HE KNEW THAT WE WERE HERE, BUT, UH, HE LEFT BEFORE WE COULD GRAB HIM . SO WE HOPED TO MEET WITH HIM OR HER, UH, AND SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE. BUT, UH, AGAIN, WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, PLACING A TWO STORY BUILDING RIGHT IN RIGHT BY WHERE ALL THE LITTLE HOUSES ARE. SO, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MS. HOFFMAN. AND I'M SORRY I DIDN'T QUITE CATCH YOUR NAME. MR. SPILLER. IS THAT YES, SIR. YES. ROMO. SPILLER. OKAY. MR. SPILLER. I, I LIVE AT ONE 13 HAZEL. THANK YOU. JUST RIGHT DOWN THE STREET. UH, AND, AND, UH, WHEN I GOT HERE, I WASN'T SURE IF I WAS FOR OR AGAINST, 'CAUSE I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PROJECT. AND I, AND I HAVE TO SAY AT THIS POINT THAT I HAVE TO BE AGAINST IT BECAUSE, UH, SIMPLY THERE'S, UH, A LOT OF OTHER, I DON'T EVEN WANNA CALL IT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, LOW INCOME HOUSING, BUT I WAS BORN IN THAT HOUSE, JUST A FOOTBALL FIELD AWAY FROM THERE. AND I'VE LIVED THERE ALL MY LIFE. AND I SEE THE OTHER UNITS THAT ARE THERE ALREADY. THERE'S OTHER TWO UNITS, EXCUSE ME. WE HAVE A LOT OF SS A P D UH, UH, COMING TO THESE, UH, HOMES AND, AND IT, I DON'T KNOW THIS PROJECT WELL ENOUGH TO SAY, HEY, YEAH, UH, THIS IS GONNA BE DIFFERENT. I, I DON'T KNOW. UH, BUT BASED ON THE NOT KNOWING I HAVE TO SAY I'M AGAINST IT, UH, IT'S A LOW INCOME AREA. UH, I DECIDED TO STAY THERE. I RETIRED, EXCUSE ME, FROM THE ARMY BACK IN 94. AND I SAID, I TOLD MY WIFE, WE'LL JUST REBUILD THIS HOUSE AND LET'S, YOU KNOW, JUST STAY HERE OR WE WANNA MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE. SHE SAID, NO, LET'S STAY HERE. SO WE DID. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UH, IT'S, IT'S A HIGH CRIME AREA. UH, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE. THE ISSUE HERE WITH THIS PROJECT IS THAT THERE'S A PACIFIC UH, A UNION PACIFIC, MISSOURI PACIFIC. TWO DIFFERENT RAILROAD OWNS THAT PROPERTY. THAT WAS, I GUESS ON THE SIDE OF, UH, EXCUSE ME. UH, AND I, I'M THINKING, OKAY, WELL HOW ARE THEY GONNA DO THE SIDEWALKS? HOW ARE THEY GONNA DO THE, THE, YOU KNOW, UH, THE DRIVEWAYS, UH, UH, I DUNNO, THERE'S SO MANY ISSUES THERE THAT, AND I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THOSE AND HOW IT'S GONNA IMPACT THE FAMILIES THAT ARE THERE. LIKE MS. HOFFMAN WAS SAYING, THE CASITAS OR, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE REALLY REAL SMALL HOMES. AND SO THAT'S MY CONCERN. AND SO I ECHO WHATEVER MS. HOFFMAN WAS, WAS. ALRIGHT. WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. SPILLER. UH, IF THE PLANNER COULD GET MR. SPILLER'S, UH, NUMBER, IF YOU'D GIVE IT TO HIM, I'LL, UH, COORDINATE A MEETING BETWEEN YOURSELF AND THE DEVELOPER TO SEE IF ANY OF THESE ISSUES CAN BE ANSWERED. MS. HOFFMAN. I WILL ENCOURAGE THE SAME. UH, THAT WAS THE PRIMARY, UH, POINT OF SEEKING THIS CONTINUANCE. 'CAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM MYSELF. I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO DISCUSS IT WITH THE DEVELOPER EITHER, AND NEITHER HAS THE DISTRICT OFFICE, SO THAT'S WHY WE THOUGHT A CONTINUANCE WOULD BE BEST. I ENCOURAGE Y'ALL TO REACH OUT, LET US KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING I CAN DO TO HELP WITH THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. UM, ALRIGHT, NOW WE ARE READY TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR. GOOD AFTERNOON, MARCO MAVI PLAN COORDINATOR. ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS LOCATED ON THE 2100 BLOCK OF CATFISH POND AT THE INTERSECTION OF MALLARD PASS. 87 NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT. ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED. HUNTER'S POND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. ZONING IS FROM R SIX TO R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. THE EXISTING R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY IS APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE ADDITIONAL DENSITY OF THE PROPOSED R FOUR, UH, [01:15:01] SORRY, THE ADDITIONAL, SORRY. FURTHER, THE PROPERTY CAN BE DEVELOPED AS AN R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY. THE DIFFERENCE, UH, IS 6,000 SQUARE FOOT VERSUS 4,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS, UH, WHICH COMES DOWN TO 32 HOMES VERSUS 48 HOMES. RESPECTFULLY, UH, BY REMAINING R SIX, THIS ALLOWS THE DIVERSITY OF HIRE, UH, HOUSING TYPES. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT. ALRIGHT, IF THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE WOULD COME FORWARD. GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, JAMES GRIFFIN, KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN, UH, HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. UM, TEN TEN ONE REUNION PLACE. UM, 7 8 2 1 6. UM, I WILL TRY TO BE BRIEF. UM, I THINK Y'ALL STILL HAVE A LONG DAY AHEAD OF YOU. UM, IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UH, SO THIS IS, UH, WITHIN HUNTER'S POND, WHICH, UH, WAS A DEVELOPMENT THAT STARTED, UM, A LITTLE OVER 20 YEARS AGO. UM, ONGOING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. UH, THIS IS REALLY THE LAST PHASE. UM, UH, RIGHT HERE YOU SEE THE, THE PROPERTY. IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE OVER FOUR ACRES. UM, WHAT, WHAT'S CALLED PHASE SEVEN OUT OF, UH, HUNTER'S POND. AGAIN, REALLY THE LAST PHASE TO BE DEVELOPED. UM, AND I'LL, I'LL GO THROUGH SOME MORE DETAIL, BUT, UH, THIS PICTURE KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF KIND OF THE ODD SHAPE AND AND LAYOUT THAT, UH, THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE. UM, AS FAR AS THE STREETS, THE ALLEYS, UH, AND THE ADJACENT, UH, DEVELOPED PROPERTIES. UM, SO HERE WE ARE JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ZOOMED OUT. UM, AND AS Y'ALL HAVE SEEN, PROBABLY ON A LOT OF CASES, YOU KNOW, GROWTH IS HAPPENING SO QUICKLY IN SAN ANTONIO, THE AERIALS ARE USUALLY OUTDATED. UM, YOU HAVE HUNTER'S POND, WHICH REALLY TAKES, UM, PRETTY MUCH ALL OF ITS ACCESS UNTIL RECENTLY FROM LOOP FOUR 10 TO AND FROM LOOP FOUR 10 TO THE WEST. YOU HAVE A PRETTY LARGE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S UNDERWAY. IT'S ACTUALLY ALL ZONED MF 33. BUT, UH, BEING DEVELOPED FOR, UH, RESIDENTIAL, SMALLER LOT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TO THE EAST. UH, ALSO ANOTHER LARGE TRACK THAT IS, UH, ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL AND I, I BELIEVE UNDER DEVELOPMENT. UM, NEXT ONE PLEASE. SO THIS IS EVEN MORE ZOOMED OUT. UM, AND, AND WAY DOWN AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN, THREE MILES AWAY, UM, YOU, THERE'S A, A USE THAT, UM, IS CAUSING STAFF TO RECOMMEND DENIAL IF YOU'RE WONDERING WHY IT WAS A KIND OF DIFFICULT POSITION THEREIN. UM, BUT WE'RE WE'RE, UM, ABOUT THREE MILES AWAY FROM THAT. AND AGAIN, SURROUND BY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT BOTH ADJACENT AND WITHIN THE AREA. NEXT SLIDE. HERE'S JUST A LITTLE IDEA OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, STANDING RIGHT THERE AT OUR PROPERTY. UM, OUR CLIENT, UH, PURCHASED THREE UNDEVELOPED PHASES AND HAS, UH, DEVELOPED THE FIRST TWO, UH, INCLUDING THAT PARK. UH, I THINK IT'S A STREET VIEW PICTURE TAKEN IN THE WINTER. SO THE, THE TREES, EVERYTHING LOOK, LOOK A LITTLE BETTER. BUT, UM, UH, RAPIDLY DEVELOPING IN RECENT TIMES. UM, AGAIN, THE OVERALL HUNTER'S POND PROJECT HAS BEEN KIND OF 20 YEARS IN THE MAKING, UM, ONTO THE ACTUAL LAND USE AND, AND ZONING PIECES OF IT. UM, SO HERE'S OUR, UH, HERE'S OUR PLAN. WE'RE IN THE HERITAGE SOUTH SECTOR PLAN. UH, OUR PROPERTY AND EVERYTHING AROUND US IS GENERAL URBAN. UH, AND YOU CAN SEE OVER THERE THE RELATED ZONING DISTRICTS. UH, R FOUR, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING, UH, IS ACTUALLY THE LEAST DENSE CATEGORY, UM, RECOMMENDED AND ALLOWABLE, UH, UNDER THE GENERAL URBAN. UM, YOU CAN SEE IT'S MOST OF THE, UH, RMM DISTRICTS AND SEVERAL OF THE MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICTS ALL THE WAY UP TO MF 33. AGAIN, DOES NOT EVEN INCLUDE, UH, OR ALLOW R SIX, UH, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY ZONED AND, AND KIND OF WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING OR, YOU KNOW, FORCED TO RECOMMEND. UM, SO THE R SIX, NOT CONSISTENT, NOT COMPATIBLE WITH, UH, THE PLAN. THE HERITAGE SOUTH SECTOR PLAN, WHICH HAS, YOU KNOW, BEEN IN PLACE FOR A WHILE. IT WAS ONE OF THE, THE FIRST, UH, OF THE LARGE SECTOR PLANS. UH, BUT THE R FOUR THAT WE'RE REQUESTING, UH, IS PERMITTED, IS COMPATIBLE. UM, AND AGAIN, REALLY IS THE LEAST DENSE CATEGORY ZONING CATEGORY, UH, WITHIN GENERAL URBAN. UH, NEXT ONE, PLEASE. SO HERE'S JUST SHOWING, UM, KIND OF ZOOMED IN, UH, OF THE ZONING AND THROUGHOUT HUNTER'S POND. UH, YOU HAVE A REAL MIX OF ZONING DISTRICTS AND LOT SIZES, UH, WHICH I'LL GET TO IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL IN A SECOND. BUT STARTING AS YOU COME IN OFF FOUR 10, YOU HAVE SOME R 20, UH, GOES DOWN, R SIX, [01:20:01] R FIVE, UH, RIGHT HERE. THIS PHASE, UH, A BIG REASON, SEVERAL REASONS, BUT, UH, A BIG REASON WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR THE REZONING, THE CHANGE FROM R SIX TO R FOUR IS BECAUSE IT'S MORE CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT IS SURROUNDING US. UM, THEY'RE ON THE EAST SIDE, ON THE RIGHT SIDE, YOU HAVE R THREE LOTS, AND THOSE ARE ALL BUILT. THOSE ARE DEVELOPED. THOSE LOTS ARE ABOUT 25 FEET WIDE. UM, SO YOU HAVE SOME REAL SMALL, SMALL LOTS, UH, ALMOST TOWN HOME STYLE. UH, YOU HAVE R FOUR JUST ABOUT ON EVERY OTHER SIDE, UH, OF THAT PROPERTY. UM, THE COUPLE KIND OF PRACTICAL ASPECTS, UH, THAT ARE, THAT ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT HERE, UH, PARTICULARLY WHAT WAS, UM, STATED, UH, BY, BY MERKO IN THE STAFF REPORT, UH, IS IS THE ACTUAL LOCK COUNT. UM, SO BECAUSE OF THE STREETS AND WE HAVE, YOU SEE DRY MOSS WAY, UM, TWO OTHER STREETS, IT'S, IT'S REALLY A KIND OF DETAILED ROAD NETWORK, UH, OF 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAYS. UM, THE WAY HUNTER'S POND WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED AND IS STILL HELD TO THESE STANDARDS, UH, YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE U D C UNIVERSAL DESIGN DESIGN STANDARDS, UM, WHICH AMONG OTHER THINGS, UH, REQUIRES 20 FOOT ALLEYS BEHIND IT. SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE TAKING UP A LOT OF THIS SITE BY ROADS AND ALLEYS, UH, AND THEN JUST THE WAY IT'S BEEN BUILT OUT AROUND IT. UM, SO AS, UH, AS STAFF STATED, THE THE CURRENT ZONING, UM, WOULD BE 32 HOMES VERSUS THE 48 HOMES ALLOWABLE UNDER R FOUR. UH, AND, AND THAT'S IF YOU'RE JUST DOING THE KIND OF SIMPLE MATH WITHOUT LOOKING AT, UM, THE STREETS AND THE LAYOUT AND EVERYTHING, UH, WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY PROPOSING, WE CURRENTLY ARE LIMITED TO 23 HOMES UNDER THE R SIX. UH, WE'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD 35 HOMES UNDER THE R FOUR. SO THE 35 IS PRETTY CLOSE TO THE 32, UH, THAT HAS BEEN STATED AS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF APPROPRIATE UNDER WHAT, WHAT THEORETICALLY COULD BE BUILT UNDER TODAY'S CURRENT ZONING. UM, THE DENSITY, UM, KIND OF A SIMILAR, SIMILAR SITUATION THERE. UM, SO OUR DENSITY, UH, AS PROPOSED, UM, WITH THE REQUESTED R FOUR ZONING, UH, WE'D BE ABOUT SEVEN, WELL, IT WOULD BE EXACTLY 7.8 UNITS PER ACRE. UH, R SIX ZONING, AGAIN, NO OTHER FACTORS, UH, APPLYING, UH, IS SEVEN UNITS PER ACRE. UM, SO YOU'RE RIGHT THERE CONSISTENT REALLY WITH WHAT R SIX, YOU KNOW, STANDARDS ARE WHAT IT OTHERWISE NORMALLY WOULD ACCOMPLISH, UH, IN THE SEVEN UNITS PER ACRE RANGE, 32 HOMES FIRST, 35. SO, UH, THE, THE REQUEST IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME, UH, AS WHAT WAS DESCRIBED AS APPROPRIATE, UM, IN THE, UH, IN THE STAFF REPORT STAFF ANALYSIS. NEXT ONE, PLEASE. SO HERE'S JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, ZOOMED OUT OF THE ZONING. YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, VARIOUS LOT SIZES, UM, HAVING, UH, MUCH SMALLER, UH, NARROWER LOTS, UH, SURROUNDING OUR PROPERTY, UH, PARTICULARLY ON THE EAST SIDE. UH, JUST OUTSIDE OF HUNTER'S POND, YOU SEE THE YELLOW, WHICH IS THE MF 33, UH, WHICH IS BEING DEVELOPED FOR SINGLE FAMILY, BUT, UM, OBVIOUSLY ZONED FOR MULTIFAMILY. UM, UNDER R SIX, UM, THE, AND, AND ACTUALLY THIS SAME DEVELOPER IN THEIR FIRST TWO UNITS DEVELOPED 111 LOTS AT, UH, R SIX OR LARGER. UH, BUT IN THE AREAS FURTHER TOWARD TO THE EAST AND KIND OF TOWARDS THE NORTH WHERE IT WAS MORE CONSISTENT COMPATIBLE, UH, WITH THE DIFFERENT LOT SIZES, AGAIN, HERE, GETTING A LOT MORE DENSE SURROUNDING OUR PROPERTY. UM, AND AS I THINK Y'ALL ARE ALL VERY PAINFULLY AWARE, YOU KNOW, THE MORE HOMES AND THE MORE SLIGHTLY AFFORDABLE HOMES YOU CAN GET, THE BETTER THE, THE MORE CRITICAL. UM, AND I, AND I'M NOT EVEN DOING THAT, THAT JUSTICE THERE. BUT, UM, HERE, UH, JUST GOING THROUGH KIND OF HUNTER'S POND FROM THE, FROM THE TOP TO THE BOTTOM, LIKE I MENTIONED A SECOND AGO, AS YOU'RE COMING IN OFF OF FOUR 10, UH, YOU HAVE REALLY THE FIRST PHASE, THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT. UH, YOU HAVE THE LARGER LOTS, UM, AS YOU COME OFF THE HIGHWAY AND THE COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE, UH, THEN IT TRANSITIONS DOWN TO SOME R FOURS, SOME R FIVES, SOME R SIXES, AND THEN ON DOWN TO WHERE, WHERE WE WERE LOOKING AT. UH, AND THE POINT OF THAT BEING IS, YOU KNOW, THE REQUEST, UH, TODAY FOR R FOUR IS CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT USES WITH THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT, AND REALLY CONTRIBUTES TO THAT OVERALL MIX OF LOT SIZES. UM, AND, AND THE KIND OF THE, THE PERFECT FIT OF COMPATIBILITY TRANSITION FROM ONE LOT SIZE TO THE NEXT. UM, [01:25:01] AND, UM, YEAH, I'LL, I'LL CLOSE, UH, 'CAUSE I KNOW I SAID I'D BE QUICK AND I WASN'T, UM, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UH, IS IN SUPPORT, UH, OF THIS REQUEST. UH, YOU DO NOT HAVE, UH, ANY OPPOSITION. UH, AND AGAIN, THE PLAN, THE HERITAGE STYLE SECTOR PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, UM, REALLY SUPPORTS WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR, UH, AND IS NOT CONSISTENT OR COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY ZONED TODAY. SO, UH, APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S TIME. UH, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. GRIFFIN. A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, THERE'S NO ONE SIGNING TO SPEAK AND THERE ARE NO VOICEMAILS. VERY GOOD. COMMISSIONER KAMATH, THIS IS A DISTRICT FOUR CASE, SO IT WILL BE TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. JAMES, UH, JUST PLEASE, UH, BE STANDING THERE. I WANNA ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS. UH, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. UH, KIND OF GIVES ME A MORE, UM, BROADER PROSPECT OF A PROSPECT OF, UH, HUNTER'S POND, UH, IS A, UM, THE ALSO, UH, UH, I THINK THE YELLOWSTONE BUILDING MULTIPLE HOMES IN THIS SUBDIVISION. HAVE THEY FINISHED THE OTHER PHASES? UH, THEY, THEY HAVE, YES, SIR. UM, SO THEY FINISHED THE FIRST TWO PHASES THAT THEY, THEY DEVELOPED, UM, MOST OF THEIR HOMES. UM, THEY'RE MORE FINISHING THE LOTS, UH, AND, AND MOST OF THEIR HOMES, IF NOT ALL OF 'EM, WERE BUILT BY ROUSH COLEMAN HOMES. AND, AND YOU SAW, UH, SOME OF THOSE THAT SHOWED IN THAT PICTURE THERE. SO YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE EMBEDDED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE. UH, WERE THEY, UH, R SIXES, ARE THEY, ARE THEY FOURS? ARE THEY TREES? THEIR, THEIR FIRST TWO PHASES WERE R SIX. UM, SOME OF THEM EVEN A LITTLE BIGGER THAN R SIX. UM, LIKE I MENTIONED, THEY WERE IN AN AREA WHERE THERE WAS SOME OTHER R SIX OR SOME LARGER LOTS TO THE NORTH. UH, HERE IT WAS, UH, REALLY MORE APPROPRIATE TO CHANGE THAT LOT SIZE. AND THEY'VE REALLY, YOU KNOW, DESPITE THE, THE NEED AND THE DEMAND HAVE, HAVE BEEN ON HOLD TRYING TO PURSUE THIS CHANGE, UH, TO PROVIDE SOME, SOME DIFFERENT, UH, PRICE POINTS, UM, AND DIFFERENT PRODUCT. UH, AND, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE COST OF DEVELOPMENT ITSELF ARE, UH, EXTREMELY HIGH NOW. BUT, UH, BEING ABLE TO ADD THESE 12 HOMES AT A SMALLER LOT SIZE, UH, WHICH AGAIN, YOU KNOW, COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT'S SURROUNDING, UM, IS, IS, IS A BENEFIT THERE TO EVERYBODY. SO YOU HAVE A 4.48, UH, ACRE LOT THAT IS ZONED R SIX RIGHT NOW. AND, UM, CITY STAFF IS SAYING YOU CAN BUILD UP TO, UH, 48 HOMES, UH, IF YOU CHANGE IT FROM R SIX TO R FOUR. UH, RIGHT NOW, UH, CITY STAFF REPORT SAYS 32 HOMES IS WHAT YOU CAN BUILD WITH, UH, R SIX. BUT YOU'RE SAYING, UH, WITH THE STREETS AND ALL THAT, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENCE FROM 32 TO 25, FROM 25 TO 32, IS WHAT YOU'RE CORRECT. UM, ON, ON THIS ONE, UM, BECAUSE OF THE STREETS AND ALLEYS AND LAYOUT, UH, WE, WE HAVE ALMOST 25% OF OUR SITE IS, YOU KNOW, NOT DEVELOPABLE FOUR LOTS, UM, MADE UP OF THE, THE STREETS AND THE ALLEYS. UM, SO REALLY, YOU KNOW, TAKES FOUR AND A HALF ACRES AND, AND SEVERELY LIMITS IT. AND I THINK THE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF NORMAL PERCENTAGE OF WHAT IS ACTUALLY DEVELOPABLE IS USUALLY ABOUT HALF OF THAT. UM, DID THE, UM, THE DEVELOPER YELLOWSTONE, DID THEY EVER COME TO THE ZONING COMMISSION, UH, WITH, WHEN THEY DEVELOPED THE R SIXES PREVIOUSLY? HAVE THEY COME HERE? UH, THEY HAVE NOT ON THE R SIX, BUT THEY ACTUALLY CAME HERE WITH THIS EXACT REQUEST, UM, A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO. UM, AND, UH, UH, THAT WAS WHEN THE ISSUE WITH THE LARGE, UH, TRUCK PLANT THREE MILES AWAY, UH, CAME UP AT THE LAST, UH, MINUTE AND HAS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BEEN A OKAY. BEEN AN ISSUE FOR EVERYBODY EVER SINCE. SO, YEAH. UH, ANOTHER LONG ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, UH, THEY DID NOT SEEK TO CHANGE THEIR EARLIER FIRST TWO UNITS, BUT, BUT THEY ARE SEEKING THIS ONE. SEE THIS, UM, I THINK THIS WHOLE AREA GOT, UH, REZONED BACK IN THE 2014, UH, BY THE CITY ORDINANCE. AND WE HAVEN'T CHANGED MUCH IN THIS AREA, [01:30:01] YOU KNOW, AND, UM, BASICALLY THE, UH, BOTTOM LINE IS THE HOMEOWNER IS GONNA HAVE, UH, 2000 SQUARE FOOT OF, UH, MORE LAND ON R SIX, THEN A R FOUR. UH, THAT IS THE THRUST OF, UH, HAVING THESE R SIXES. I UNDERSTAND IT IS MIXED UP WITH THE R THREES AND R FOURS, BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL R SIXES. THE DEVELOPER HAS ALREADY, UH, BUILT HOMES AND, UM, THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE HUNTER'S POND. UM, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE, UH, PRESENTATION. UH, I JUST, UM, HAVE THE, MY OTHER FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, UH, ASK ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND, AND I DID STOP THE PRESENTATION EARLY, BUT IF Y'ALL WANT TO HEAR MORE, THERE IS A MORE KIND OF TECHNICAL, UH, LAYOUT ON A, ON A DRAFT PLAT SHOWING WHAT THOSE LOTS LOOK LIKE. UM, AND, AND AGAIN, EVEN THE R FOUR THAT WE'RE SEEKING, UM, WHICH ALLOWS FOR 35 FOOT WIDE LOTS, UH, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, WHAT WE WOULD DEVELOP, UM, IS THEY'RE 40 FOOT LOTS. SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE LARGER THAN 4,000 SQUARE FEET. THEY'RE JUST, UM, UH, NUMEROUS REASONS WHY, UH, THE LARGER R SIX LOTS IN THIS LITTLE, UH, DONUT HOLE THAT'S LEFT, UH, DO NOT MAKE SENSE FOR, FOR THE BUYERS, FOR THE BUILDERS, FOR THE DEVELOPERS, FOR, FOR THE, THE LAYOUT ITSELF. THANK YOU, MR. GRIFFIN. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT QUESTIONS, COMMERS TO MY RIGHT QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. UH, SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER KAMATH TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTIONS. UH, WELL, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW US THAT REMAINING PRESENTATION. OKAY. I MEAN, I, I, I CAN GO ON FOR FOR HOUR , WELL, DON'T, DON'T GO ON TOO MUCH . YEP, YEP. AND INTERESTED HOW THE, UH, R SIX AND THE FOUR FITS INTO THAT 4.55 ACRES, YOU KNOW? YEP. PERFECT. SO HERE YOU SEE THE, THIS IS HOW IT WOULD BE, UH, DEVELOPED UNDER CURRENT ZONING. UM, UH, AGAIN, YOU HAVE THE, THE STREETS, UH, THE ALLEYS, WHICH ACTUALLY AREN'T SHOWN ON THOSE LOTS, BUT TAKE UP A BIG, BIG CHUNK THERE. UM, WHAT REALLY STICKS OUT TO ME AT LEAST, IS HOW LARGE THESE LOTS ARE COMPARED TO LITERALLY WHAT IS A BUDDING IT. AND, YOU KNOW, OR RIGHT ACROSS A, THE ALLEY, UH, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE EAST, UM, A, A DRASTIC CHANGE. WHEREAS IF YOU LOOK AT HUNTER'S POND OVERALL, YOU DO HAVE THE MIX OF LOT SIZES IN A MUCH MORE, YOU KNOW, COHESIVE AND, AND COMPATIBLE MANNER. AND, AND THE R FOUR REQUEST REALLY CONTRIBUTES TO THAT. UM, AGAIN, YOU HAVE, UH, PLENTY OF R SIX ELSEWHERE, JUST RIGHT ACROSS HUNTER'S POND, KIND OF OFF SCREEN HERE, UH, THAT IS ADJACENT AND ABUTTING OTHER R SIX OR EVEN LARGER LOTS, UH, HERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN BUILT AND DEVELOPED UNDER R THREE, UH, OR THE OLD UD ZONING THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY ZONED BEFORE THAT, THAT 2014 CASE, UH, THAT YOU MENTIONED. UM, IT, IT JUST MAKES FOR A MUCH MORE CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE AND, AND APPROPRIATE, UM, MIX OF LOT SIZES, PROJECT. WELL, THANK YOU. I DO ANY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, IN LIGHT OF THIS, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONERS ACTUALLY DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. GRIFFIN. YES, MR. ORTIZ, HAVE YOU HAD SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA ABOUT THE CHANGE OF THE LOTS AND BEING LARGE COMPARED TO THE OTHER ONES ADJACENT TO IT THAT ARE SMALLER? UH, YES, SIR. UM, MOSTLY THROUGH THE, THE H O A AND THE BOARD, BUT THEY ARE FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS REQUEST OF THIS CHANGE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER KAMATH TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND MOTION. THE, UH, DISCUSSION IS, UH, IS THAT I'M VERY, VERY HAPPY THAT, UH, YELLOWSTONE DEVELOPERS ARE TAKING ON ALL THIS, UH, VACANT LOTS IN THE HUNTER SPAWN AND THEY'VE BEEN DEVELOPING. UM, BUT THE, UH, THE PROPERTY HISTORY HAS THAT, UH, IT WAS REZONED, UH, [01:35:01] BY CITY ORDINANCE BACK IN THE 2014 TO CURRENT R SIX. THE, UH, DISTRICT FOUR ALWAYS HAD A, UH, UH, THRUST WAY BACK WHEN DURING, UM, UH, PREVIOUS COUNCILMAN'S, UH, LEADERSHIP THAT THE RESIDENTS NEEDED, UM, 2000 SQUARE FOOT MORE, UM, PIECE OF LAND FOR IN ADDITION TO THEIR HOME. SO R SIX WAS THE APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THIS, UH, THIS, UH, PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, SO I, I WILL, UH, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, TAKE THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CITY STAFF AND, UH, DENY THE APPLICATION APPLICANT'S, UH, REZONING REQUEST TO R SIX. ALRIGHT. COMMISSIONER KAMATH HAS MADE A MOTION FOR DENIAL OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR. IS THERE A SECOND? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE. MOTION FAILS FOR LACK OF A SECOND. IS THERE AL AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION? UM, CHAIR I'D LIKE CAN MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. ALRIGHT. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ HAS MADE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BIDEN NUMBER FOUR. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT, TO MY RIGHT. ALRIGHT. THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? NO. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER BURROWS? YES. COMMISSIONER LEG. HOLLAND? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR BUS. AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, AND THEN WE WILL TAKE OUR TRADITIONAL FIVE MINUTE BREAK. UM, BUT ITEM NUMBER FIVE AT THIS TIME, GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS ELIZABETH STEWART, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS LOCATED AT 1519 WEST VETTE BOULEVARD, GOING FROM R FOUR TO MF 25 WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME. THERE WERE EIGHT NOTICES SENT OUT. ZERO IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED. THERE IS NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN A 200 FEET, BUT ONE RECEIVED OUTSIDE 200 FEET. THE EXISTING R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREAS. THE PROPOSED MF 25 LOW DENSITY MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT ADDS TOO MUCH MORE DENSITY TO THE AREA, WHICH IS PRIMARILY ESTABLISHED AS A LARGE LOT SINGLE FAMILY STAFF'S. ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF R M FOUR RESIDENTIAL MIXED DISTRICT IS MORE APPROPRIATE DENSITY AND ALLOWS FOR A MIX OF HOUSING TYPES. THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ES ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATIVE RECOMMENDATION OF RMM FOUR RESIDENTIAL MIX. DISTRICT STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROJECT. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. UH, MY NAME'S RICARDO TOES. UM, TEN FOUR FOUR SIX TRAILWAY OAK. GREAT. WELL, THE, UH, THE PROJECT WAS, UH, CONTIN, UH, CONTINUED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, SO I'LL JUST BRIEFLY GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, UM, AND THEN UPDATE YOU ON WHAT I DID THE LAST TWO WEEKS. SO THE PROJECT'S, UH, CURRENT ADDRESS IS AT 1519 WEST VIA RED BOULEVARD, UM, LOCATED IN THE SOUTH SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO, RIGHT IN FRONT OF PALO ALTO COMMUNITY COLLEGE. CURRENTLY ZONE R FOUR. UM, UH, INITIAL ZONING, UH, REQUEST IS FOR MF 25, DISTRICT FOUR, AND CURRENTLY IN SECTOR PLAN, UH, WEST SOUTHWEST S COMMUNITY CONTEXT. UM, LIKE I SAID, THE PRO THE PROPERTY IS THE, UH, TREK RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE, UH, WITH THE DASH RED LINE PALO ALTO COLLEGE TO THE SOUTH ACROSS VE UH, WEST BOULEVARD. UM, THE, AND THE, AND THE NUMBER TWO IS AN, UH, IT'S A APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, 108 UNITS, TWO STORY, UM, UH, APARTMENT MARKET, MARKET APARTMENTS THAT ARE GOING [01:40:01] IN UP RIGHT NOW. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. YOU SAID THE, THE ZONING, UH, IS R FOUR. UM, AND, BUT THE SECTOR PLAN DOES CALL FOR A GENERAL OR URBAN TIER. UM, I THINK WE JUST BRIEFLY HEARD ABOUT THAT ON THE PREVIOUS ONE. UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THE, SO THESE ARE THE, UH, THE RELATED ZONING DISTRICTS. UM, THE REQUESTED ZONING REQUESTS IS WITHIN, UH, THE, THE RELATED ZONING DISTRICTS. UM, SINCE IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE, UM, THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE. I THINK THE, WHEN THIS WAS PLANNED, YOU KNOW, IT, THEY THOUGHT SOME KIND OF DENSITY FOR, YOU KNOW, STUDENT STAFF, UH, YOU KNOW, WOULD, WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. STREET VIEW. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND, UH, THIS IS A PROPOSED, UH, SITE PLAN. UM, THE SITE IS ACTUALLY 131 FEET WIDE, A HUNDRED, UH, 830, UH, FOOT LONG, SO, YOU KNOW, VERY LONG. THE, OUR PRO, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR PROPOSAL IS, IS FOR 24 DUPLEXES, TWO STORY, UM, 1,003, 1,350 SQUARE FEET EACH, UM, WITH ONE CAR GARAGE, ONE TANDEM, UH, SO NO, NO STREET PARKING AND, UH, THE, AND WITH SOME OPEN, UH, SPACES RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE FOR THE COMMUNITY. THE, AND, UH, WE, UH, WE WILL, UH, WE WILL, I'M SORRY. WE WILL, UH, MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY WITHIN OUR, UH, WITHIN OUR COMPANY AND MANAGE IT, UM, WITH A PROFESSIONAL, UH, MANAGEMENT GROUP. UH, WE'LL ALSO, UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY CONFIRMED, UH, THE PAST TWO WEEKS I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH, UH, LAND DEVELOPMENT. UM, AND, UH, MS. CHRIS FLO WAS KIND ENOUGH TO DISTRIBUTE OUR PLAN, UH, TO THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS TO CONFIRM THE VIABILITY OF, OF THE PROJECT AND TRAFFIC CONFIRMED. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WERE, OUR 27 FOOT, UH, PRIVATE STREET WAS, UM, GOOD. THE NO SECONDARY ACCESS WAS NEEDED, UH, ON THE TRAFFIC SIDE, I ALSO GOT IN, WE ALSO GOT IN CONTACT WITH CAPTAIN TURNER FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. HE, UH, CONFIRMED THAT NO SECONDARY, UH, ACCESS WOULD BE NEEDED, UM, AS LONG AS WE ABIDE FI BY THE I F C UH, TURNAROUNDS, WHICH, UH, WE DO. AND, UM, UH, IN A FEW MORE ITEMS WERE JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT WE AGREE WITH ON THE BUILDING, UH, WHEN WE GET TO PERMITTING, YOU KNOW, UM, HOW THAT PROCESS IS. AND WE WE'RE COMMITTED TO FOLLOWING THAT AS WELL. THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO THERE'S JUST A, A COUPLE INSPIRATION, UM, A COUPLE OF SLIDES OF WHAT, WHAT WE'RE THINKING. THE ARCHITECTURE, UH, LANDSCAPING OPEN, OPEN SPACES ARE, LOOK, UH, WILL LOOK LIKE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UM, SAME WITH THE INTERIOR. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THE, SO FROM THE LAST, UH, DISCUSSION WE HAD AT THE PODIUM HERE WAS, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN YOU DO WITHIN AN RM FOUR, WHICH THE, UH, WHICH THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING? SO THE, I PUT THREE SCHEMES TOGETHER, WHICH, UH, ALL WORK. THE SCHEME NUMBER ONE IS 20 DUPLEXES, UH, AROUND 2,600 SQUARE FEET EACH, UM, WITH, WITH A PRIVATE ROAD KIND OF, UH, PUSHED TO THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD REDUCE, UM, THE, THAT WOULD REDUCE THE ACTUAL DENSITY, BUT MAKE THESE UNITS BIGGER AND IN TURN A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE, UH, IN, IN, FOR RENTAL, RIGHT? THEY'RE, THEY'RE AS BIG AS A FULL SINGLE FAMILY HOME. UH, SCHEME TWO IS A, IS A TRIPLEX, UM, GETTING CLOSER TO 42 UNITS. UH, BUT WITH THE 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, UM, IT, WE WOULD HAVE TO, UH, WE WOULD HAVE TO ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, OUR PARKING IN FRONT OF THESE HOMES. SO A LOT OF THE OPEN SPACE IS REMOVED AND THE, UH, WHILE IT STILL FOLLOWS, UH, THE I F C, THE U D C, IT, IT STARTS GETTING A LITTLE CROWDED RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE. UH, SCHEME THREE IS, IS ACTUALLY A QUADPLEX. SO 40 UNITS, UM, WITH A PRIVATE ROAD I MADE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER JUST BECAUSE IT'LL BE, YOU KNOW, BIGGER, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, SINCE, UH, THE, SINCE WE HAVE THAT 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, OUR PARKING WOULD [01:45:01] HAVE TO BE IN THE FRONT. OPEN SPACES ARE SMALLER AND YOU LIVE IN A APARTMENT, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN A MORE OF A SINGLE FAMILY DUPLEX WITH A LITTLE BACKYARD, UH, SPACE, MORE TRADITIONAL, UM, IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT TALLER AS WELL, SINCE WE GOTTA GET SOME, SOME HEIGHTS, UH, ON THOSE, UH, INDIVIDUAL UNITS. QUADPLEXES. SO IN GOING IN DISCUSSING THIS WITH, UM, STAFF, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. YOU KNOW, I, I PROPO, YOU KNOW, UM, I COME WITH AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN, WHICH WOULD BE, UM, UH, FORMALLY AMENDING OUR, MY, MY PROPOSAL TO M F 18, WHICH WOULD ACTUALLY REMOVE TWO DUPLEXES AND GET ME CLOSER TO THE RMM FOUR. SO DURING RM FOUR, I COULD DO 42, UH, 42 UNITS. UM, AND IT, WELL AN ACRE UP. AND THEN THE M F 18 IS ACTUALLY 45. BUT, YOU KNOW, SINCE I'M DOING DUPLEXES, I WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE TWO OF THOSE DUPLEXES. SO NOW I'M AT 40, UH, 44 UNITS, WHICH PUTS ME RIGHT BELOW THE M F 18 AT 17.6. THE, IT ALSO DOES SOME GREAT STUFF FOR THE PRO UH, FOR THE PROJECT. THERE'S MORE SEPARATION BETWEEN BUILDINGS FROM FIVE TO, UH, EIGHT FEET AND THE OPEN AREAS GOT LARGER AS WELL. IT GIVES MORE BREATHING ROOM THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE, UH, COMMUNITY. LEMME FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UM, MR. TOES, UM, DID YOU SAY THAT YOU WERE FORMALLY AMENDING YOUR REQUEST NOW TO MF 18, OR YOU JUST WANTED TO DISCUSS THAT AS A POSSIBILITY? YES SIR. YES. THE LATTER. YES, THE LATTER. OKAY. JUST WANTED TO BE SURE. MM-HMM. . ALRIGHT. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? NO, SIR. ALRIGHT. COMMISSIONER KAMATH, UM, QUESTIONS TO YOU, SIR? YEAH, THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. UH, RICARDO, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE, UH, TWO WEEKS TO, UH, GO OVER THIS PROJECT AGAIN AND SHOW US THE, UH, DIFFERENT SCHEMES. UH, UH, ACTUALLY I LIKE THE MF, UH, 18, UM, THEN THE MF 25 THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR APPLICATION. UM, AND, UH, I, I BELIEVE THAT THE, UH, PALO ALTA COLLEGE, UH, IS NEUTRAL STILL. THEY'RE NOT, UH, UH, NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE WISH ME GOOD LUCK, . OKAY. UH, I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY NEW QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. I WANT OTHER COMMISSIONERS TO, UH, UH, TAKE ANY, ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR, ALRIGHT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? YES, COMMISSIONER HU. SO FOR THE APPLICANT, JUST TO HELP ME CLARIFY, THE, ARE YOU AMENDING YOUR APPLICATION TO MF ? WHAT DO WE VOTE? WHAT ARE WE CONSIDERING? I HAVE A SIMILAR QUESTION THAT I'M GONNA ASK. YEAH. I, I, CHRISTY CAN HELP ME WITH . THE, I KNOW AT THE, AT, YOU KNOW, AT OUR DISCUSSIONS IS JUST GO UP HERE AND, YOU KNOW, UM, BECAUSE THE WAY IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME IS THAT WHILE I REQUESTED AN MF UH, ZONING, I CAN ACTUALLY REDUCE THAT ZONING. IF I WERE REQUESTING SOMETHING ELSE, IT WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE CONTINUED. SO I'D LIKE THE MF 18 TO BE CONSIDERED. YOU WOULD LIKE IT TO BE CONSIDERED, BUT YOU'RE NOT, YOU HAVEN'T OFFICIALLY AMENDED. ALRIGHT. UM, COMMISSIONER HU, DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UH, I'M GOING TO ASK THE NEXT QUESTION. SO, IS THIS IN RANGE FOR HIM TO AMEND AT THE PODIUM TODAY? IT IS. ALRIGHT. ARE YOU SURE YOU DON'T WANT TO AMEND TO MF 18? I WANT TO AMEND TO MF 18 . I HAD TO ASK A QUESTION. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN . ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? ALRIGHT. COMMISSIONER KAMATH TO YOU FOR A DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION. YEAH, I THINK WE NEED THE, UH, UH, THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT ON THE DISTRICT FOUR, ESPECIALLY CLOSE TO THE, UH, UH, PALO ALTO COLLEGE, UH, A AND M AND OTHER, UH, ENTITIES IN THE AREA. SO, UM, AND ALSO THE APPLICANT IS AMENDING AS AMENDED THE APPLICATION TO MF 18. SO, UH, I RECOMMEND, UM, APPROVAL OF THIS REZONING APPLICATION AS AMENDED. OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED, UH, FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. UH, COMMISSIONER FUENTES IS THE SECOND. ALRIGHT, ANY DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. UM, I JUST WANNA SAY I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE [01:50:01] MOTION. I REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, YOU HEARING US AND TAKING IT BACK AND SPENDING THE TWO WEEKS TO COME UP WITH AN ALTERNATIVE, UH, PROPOSAL. SO THIS, UM, SEEMS TO BE IT. IT TAKES CARE OF SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAD PREVIOUSLY AND I DO THINK THAT DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA IS DESPERATELY NEEDED. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION TO MY LEFT? JUST SAME THING. I'D LIKE TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT. THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE CHANGES AND BEING HERE TO MAKE THE, UH, AMENDMENT FOR THE MF 18. THANK YOU. I'LL BE SUPPORTING IT AS WELL. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER SIPES. I'LL ALSO BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION AND NOT JUST BECAUSE MY, UH, WIFE GOT HER FIRST DEGREE AT PALO ALTO. UM, BUT I THINK WHAT WAS REALLY HELPFUL WAS THE COMPARISON AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS, THAT, UM, OTHER APPLICANTS COULD, COULD TAKE NOTE OF TO SHOW. OKAY. YES, I LOOKED AT YOUR, YOUR SUGGESTION AND THIS IS WHY MY SUGGESTION HAPPENS TO BE BETTER. THANK YOU. FURTHER DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. ALRIGHT. NO, I DO APPRECIATE, UM, YOU COMING WITH THESE ALTERNATIVES. COMMISSIONER SIPES IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. UM, I LIKED THE FIRST PLAN TOO. I PROBABLY WOULD'VE SUPPORTED IT, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU CERTAINLY ARE GONNA GET A MUCH STRONGER SIGNAL FROM THE COMMISSION, I BELIEVE, UM, GIVEN THE AMENDMENT, SO, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED BY COMMISSIONER KAMATH WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BURROWS? YES. COMMISSIONER LAG HOLLAND? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU . ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UH, THE TIME IS CURRENTLY 2 54 AT ABOUT TWO HOURS. WE TYPICALLY TAKE A FIVE OR SO MINUTE BREAK. WE WILL STAND IN RECESS TILL APPROXIMATELY 3:00 PM THANK YOU ALL. WE WILL RETURN AND CONSIDER ITEM NUMBER 10, UH, ONCE WE RETURN INTO MEETING. WE ARE NOW IN RECESS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, UH, RESUME YOUR SEATS. I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. UH, THE TIME IS 3 0 2 AND I AM RESUMING THE ZONING COMMISSION MEETING FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ON MAY 17TH. AND WE WILL RESUME WITH ITEM NUMBER 10 AT THIS TIME, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, I'M NUMBER 10, IS GENERALLY LOCATED AT 10 16 AND 10 24 CINCINNATI GOING FROM C TWO TO C TWO CD WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR BAR TAVERN WITH COVERAGE CHARGE THREE OR MORE DAYS PER WEEK WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME, THERE ARE 20 NOTICES SENT OUT. ZERO ONE FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED WITHIN THE 200 FEET, 44 NOTICES IN SUPPORT OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET. JEFFERSON NA AND FOX ONE NA R IN SUPPORT AND WOODLAND LAKE NA IS IN SUPPORT GIVEN CONDITIONS. STAFF FINDS EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LAND IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE PROPOSED USE IS TYPICALLY ALLOWED BY WRIGHT AND C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND IS MORE INTENSE IN NATURE THAN THE EXISTING C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT SURROUNDING PROPERTIES THAT PRIMARILY ZONED ARE FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS ARE SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT AND C TWO COMMERCIAL STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, IF THE APPLICANT WILL COME FORWARD, PLEASE. UH, THANK YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. UH, MY NAME IS, UH, RENEE SAMRA. I LIVE AT 13 203 LARGE GATE DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. I'M HERE AS AS YOU AS THE AS, UH, I MEAN, UM, SUBPOENA I MENTIONED, UH, TO CHANGE FROM, UM, CD TO A CD TWO WITH CONDITIONAL USE. I'M NOT TRYING TO CHANGE THE, I'M TRYING TO KEEP THE BASE ZONING, UM, SO I CAN STAY INTACT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I'VE PREPARED A LITTLE SLIDE. I, UH, THAT I PRESENTED TO, UH, PLANNING, UM, I BELIEVE LAST MONTH. AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UM, THAT THE LIGHTHOUSE LOUNGE, UH, OR SAY IT'S FOR, UH, DECADES, 10 16 CINCINNATI AVENUE HAS BEEN A CULTURAL HUB WHERE PEOPLE GATHER TO DISCUSS IDEAS, CELEBRATE AND, UH, LISTEN TO MUSIC. I HAVE A FEW PHOTOS HERE, ONE OF 'EM, OUR LANDLORDS, SOME ONE OF THE, WHEN OF THE LIVE BANDS WERE THERE AND WE HAD THE DECKS OUT. WE HAD, UH, POETS, UH, COMING OUT, WRITING POETRY AND THEN COMING INSIDE AND, UH, SIGHTING THE POETRY THAT THEY HAD WRITTEN OUT ON THE DECK. UM, NEXT I HAVE OUR VISION AND INTENT, UM, ARE TO BE AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR THRIVING NEIGHBORHOOD. AND MORE WAYS IN [01:55:01] ONE, I'VE INCLUDED SOME SLIDES OF, UH, TOY DRIVES THAT WE HAD. UH, LIKE I MENTIONED, THE POETRY SPEAKING. AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL RUN GROUPS, UM, COME THROUGH AS, UH, SINCE WE'VE BEEN OPEN, WE'RE ALMOST GONNA BE THERE THREE YEARS. AS YOU CAN SEE THAT PHOTO THERE IS, UH, WITHOUT THE DECKS, BUT THEY STILL COME OUT AND, UH, HAVE THEIR RUNNING EVENTS. AND THEN WE JUST, UH, HOST, UH, EVERYONE INSIDE THAT IS, UH, DURING A ST. PATRICK'S FUN DAY RUN. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE REALLY COMMUNITY BASE. THERE'S YOUNG CHILDREN THERE IN STROLLERS, UM, SOME A LITTLE BIT OLDER AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ALL THERE WITH MOM AND DAD, UH, PARTICIPATING IN WHAT THE LAKE HAS TO OFFER, WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER. AND, UM, JUST HAVING A GOOD TIME. UH, WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE A PLACE WHERE THE COMMUNITY LEADERS, ARTISTS, AND PEOPLE JUST PASSING THROUGH CAN SOAK UP THE VIBRANCY OF THE CITY. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE OUR, UH, OUR SHRINE THERE THAT IS, UH, DEDICATED TO THE LITTLE FLOWER THAT IS THE ST. THERESA RIGHT THERE. AND THAT IS OUR HOMAGE TO BEING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THE BASILICA THAT'S ABOUT TWO AND A HALF BLOCKS AWAY, UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER THIS LADY'S NAME, BUT WE HOSTED HER. SHE'S A CHIL, UH, CHILDREN'S AUTHOR AND SHE HAD HER ACTUAL, UH, UH, BOOK RELEASE THERE. UM, AND MARIACHIS, OF COURSE, ARE ALL ABOUT SAN ANTONIO AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT'S OUR LATEST MIRO THAT, YOU KNOW, KIDS AND PEOPLE COME AND JUST TAKE PHOTOS OF AND POST ON THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA BECAUSE, UM, IT'S COOL WHEN THEY LIKE TO BE AT LIGHTHOUSE LOUNGE. UH, I DID WANT TO, UH, READ THAT. UM, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR ME TO, TO, TO BE A PART OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, TO BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, PLANNING WAS A STICKING POINT WAS THAT WE WERE ASKING FOR SOME OUTDOOR AMPLIFICATION. I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT, THAT OUT OUTDOOR AMPLIFICATION IS NOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF SPEAKERS. IT'S ONE SIX AND A HALF INCH, UH, SPEAKER FOR, UH, OUTDOOR AMBIENT, UH, AMBIENT MUSIC. UH, AND SPEAKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, MY CLOSEST ONE, WHICH IS WOODLAWN, UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN SPEAKING TOGETHER AND WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT FROM THEM. UH, AND IT SAYS, UH, TO IT MAY CONCERN, THE WOODLAWN COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION HAS HELD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE OWNERS OF THE LIGHTHOUSE LOUNGE AND CONCERNS FOR AMPLIFIED NOISE INTO THE LATE HOURS. MOST RECENTLY, A CONVERSATION WAS HELD, WHICH INCLUDED THE ADDITION OF A CONDITION TO THEIR PROPOSAL THAT WOULD LIMIT THE USE OF AMPLIFIED OUTDOOR NOISE TO NOT BE PLAYED PAST MIDNIGHT, WHICH WOULD ALIGN WITH THE PARK HOURS OF OPERATION. THE AMPLIFIED NOISE WOULD BE USED FOR AMBIENT NOISE AND NOT PRIMARY SOUND DEVICE FOR ANY LIVE MUSIC EVENTS HELD AT THIS LOCATION. LIGHTHOUSE LOUNGE CONTINUES TO WORK WITH THE ASSOCIATION AS A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND CONTINUES TO RECEIVE THE ASSOCIATION SUPPORT IN THIS MATTER, ASSUMING THE CONDITION IS PLACED. AND, UH, I'M, I'M FOR THAT, I'M ABOUT ABOUT CAPPING THAT, UH, SPEAKER, UH, AT MIDNIGHT WHENEVER IT IS. IT IT IS ON. AND, UM, ANY QUESTIONS YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN MAY HAVE FOR ME, YOU KNOW, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK. THANK YOU MR. ZAMORA. UH, YOU MIGHT HAVE A CHANCE FOR REBUTTAL. WE'LL SEE. YES SIR. IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? UH, WE DO HAVE A VOICEMAIL AND WE HAVE SOMEONE IN THE AUDIENCE. JJ LOPEZ. OH, HELLO. HELLO. HELLO. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AND THANKS FOR LISTENING TO THIS CASE TODAY. MY NAME IS JJ LOPEZ AND I AM AT 1 22 MANNING, WHICH IS IN LOMA PARK. AND I'M HERE IN FAVOR OF THE LIGHTHOUSE. BY DAY I'M A PROFESSOR AND I TEACH AT THE UNIVERSITY LEVEL CLASSES ON MUSIC INDUSTRY. SO I'M VERY, VERY AWARE OF WHAT HAPPENS IN SAN ANTONIO AND I PAY ATTENTION. AND, UH, I'M ALSO A BROADCASTER, BUT I ALSO PUT ON COMMUNITY EVENTS. I DO, UH, PUT ON EVENTS AT THE LIGHTHOUSE. PRIOR TO THAT I WAS AT TUCKERS COZY CORNER FOR 10 YEARS. UH, PROGRAMMING EVENTS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH NONPROFITS ON THE EAST SIDE, INCLUDING DREAM BOYS, UH, THE M L K COMMISSION WORKING WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, THE CARVER COMMUNITY CULTURAL CENTER, USING THESE SPACES TO BRING AWARENESS AND CELEBRATE THE COMMUNITY ON THE EAST SIDE. AND I HAVE NOW MOVED, I'VE ALSO MOVED, UH, AND I'M A RESIDENT OF THE WEBSITE OF THE WEST SIDE. AND I SEE THE SAME POTENTIAL HERE AT THE LIGHTHOUSE, PUTTING ON EVENTS THAT MOVE BEYOND JUST THE MISSION OF A LOCAL COMMUNITY BAR. BUT THEY CAN BE PLACES FOR GATHERING THAT HAVE POSITIVE CHANGE. AND I SEE THAT HAPPENING ON LAKESIDE. THERE IS NO OTHER VENUE QUITE LIKE IT IN SAN ANTONIO. I SUPPORT THESE INITIATIVES AND THESE CHANGES AND I HOPE THAT YOU'LL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. IT CAN BE SO MUCH MORE THAN WHAT IT IS. IT JUST NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF SUPPORT. AND I WILL SAY LASTLY, SO OFTEN WE SEE THAT THESE OPPORTUNITIES GO TO PEOPLE WITH A LOT OF RESOURCES. SO IT'S NICE TO SEE HOMEGROWN INVESTORS INVESTING IN SAN ANTONIO WHO KNOW WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY AND CAN HELP IN THAT CONVERSATION. SO SUPPORT OF, OF THE LITTLE GUY IN THIS CAPACITY GOES A LONG WAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LISTENING. THANK YOU MR. LOPEZ. ALRIGHT, UH, VOICEMAIL. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS ANDREA GARZA AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE MONTICELLO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. PO BOX 1 0 0 3 1 5, [02:00:03] SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN TWO ZERO ONE. MY PHONE NUMBER IS TWO TEN SIX FOUR THREE FOUR SEVEN SIX ZERO. AND I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO ITEM NUMBER 10 ON TODAY'S AGENDA. ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE MONTICELLO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, I'M WRITING TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR THE WOODLAWN LAKE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION REVISED LETTER OF POSITION REGARDING THE LIGHTHOUSE LOUNGE. IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT W L C A HAS HAD NUMEROUS DISCUSSIONS WITH THE OWNERS OF THE WHITE HOUSE LOUNGE AND SUPPORTS THE REQUEST WITH THE CONDITION THAT AMPLIFIED OUTDOOR NOISE NOT OCCURRED BEYOND MIDNIGHT. WE APPRECIATE THE OWNERS OF THE WHITE HOUSE LOUNGE FOR RECOGNIZING THE CONCERNS EXPRESSED BY W L C A REGARDING IDENTIFICATION AND ITS IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. SO LIMIT THE OUTDOOR AMPLIFICATION WOULD ALSO COINCIDE WITH THE CLOSING HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THE HISTORIC WOODLAND PARK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. UH, MR. ZAMORA, YOU COULD REBUT SOMETHING, BUT THERE'S REALLY NOTHING TO REBUT. SO I THINK WE'RE JUST GONNA GO ON FORWARD TO QUESTIONS. AND THIS IS A DISTRICT ONE CASE, SO TO COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. YES. UM, I'M GONNA START WITH QUESTIONS STAFF, BUT I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MENTIONED CONDITIONING, THE HOURS OF THE OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO? YES, MA'AM. YOU CAN. PERFECT. SO THEY COULD HAVE DIFFERENT HOURS OF OPERATION VERSUS THE HOURS THAT THEY CAN HAVE AMPLIFIED SOUND THE RIGHT, THE SPEAKER ON? YES, MA'AM. OKAY, GREAT. I LEARNED SOMETHING TODAY. UM, 'CAUSE I WAS NOT SURE ABOUT THAT. UM, WHAT, I GUESS THE, THE OTHER THING IS, SO, UM, ON HIS SITE PLAN, HE HAS HERE SPEAKER MOUNTED UNDER ROOF SOFFIT. IS THAT ALSO SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE CONTROLLED BY THE SITE PLAN OR COULD HE THEN, IF THERE WAS OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND, THAT COULD BE ANYWHERE ON THE PROPERTY? WELL, NO, HE'S PROPOSING IT IN THAT LOCATION, SO WHETHER IT'S MOUNTED OR NOT WILL COME DOWN TO THE SAFETY OF IT WHEN PERMITS LOOKS OVER IT. BUT, UH, AS FAR AS HAVING THE AMPLIFICATION, UM, IF HE'S SAYING HE'S GONNA HAVE A SPEAKER THERE, THEN IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO THAT LOCATION. RIGHT. LESS ABOUT THE MOUNTING, MORE ABOUT THE FACT THAT IT'S LOCATED IN THAT ONE PARTICULAR SPOT, NOT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY OR SOMEWHERE ELSE. CORRECT. OKAY. AWESOME. UM, OKAY, THAT'S ALL OF MY QUESTIONS FOR YOU GUYS. UM, HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THE, FOR YOUR OPER FOR YOUR BAR IS GOING TO BE, UM, WHAT, UH, IT'S BEEN, UH, 4:00 PM TO 2:00 AM AND WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH US PUTTING THAT CONDITION ON THERE OR DO YOU WANNA HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY? I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CONCERNS WITH RESPECT TO HOURS OF OPERATION AND THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED. RIGHT. SO SPEAKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE OVERLAPPING NEIGHBORHOODS ASSOCIATIONS, UH, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY ISSUES WITH THE, UH, HOURS OF OPERATION. UH, SO THAT'S NOT REALLY ON OUR AGENDA AS FAR AS CAPPING OUR HOURS OF OPERATION. WE DO NOT WANT TO DO THAT. WE WERE JUST WILLING TO BE FLEXIBLE WITH THE HOURS OF OPERATION WITH THE OUTDOOR SPEAKER. OKAY. SO THEN YOUR SPEAKER OPERATION WOULD BE 4:00 PM TO MIDNIGHT? YES, MA'AM. OKAY, PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. AND WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF THE, UH, NOISE ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE, IT'S NOT GONNA BE AMPLIFIED OR, OR BLARING OUT THERE. IT'S JUST AMBIENT SOUND. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. STO ZAMORA. UM, QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. ALRIGHT. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION. OKAY, GREAT. UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND FOR YOUR VERY DETAILED SITE PLAN. I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS. YES. UM, UM, I HAD A LOT OF OUTREACH ON THIS CASE FROM FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, IN SUPPORT. UM, SO I THINK THAT THAT REALLY SPEAKS TO THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE RUNNING A GOOD OPERATION, OF COURSE, ZONING'S IN PERPETUITY. SO IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE YOU MAY NOT BE HERE. YOU YES MA'AM. SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE. SO, UM, I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY. UM, AND, AND ONE CONCERN THAT I KNOW THAT FOLKS TYPICALLY HAVE AROUND OUTDOOR NOISE, UM, IS HOURS OF OPERATION. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO CAP THAT. AND ALSO VERY THOUGHTFUL ON THE LOCATION OF IT, THAT IT'S FAR AWAY FROM NEIGHBORS. THE, UM, PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET IS NOT, UM, HOUSES, IT'S NOT RESIDENTIAL. SO, UM, GIVEN ALL OF THAT, UM, THIS IS NOT, AND THIS IS MOSTLY FOR THE FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WHO KNOW THAT I TEND TO REALLY [02:05:01] BE HARSH ON BARS AND OUTSIDE NOISE. NOT BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE GOING TO BARS 'CAUSE I REALLY DO AND I LIKE OUTDOOR NOISE AS WELL. YES, MA'AM. UM, NOT NOISE MUSIC, BUT IT IS, THERE'S NOISE TOO. RIGHT. BUT, UM, AND I JUST DID WANT TO ADD THAT THAT'S SPEAKER IS MOUNTED, POINTED DOWN TO THE GROUND. IT'S NOT MOUNTED IN A WAY WHERE IT PROJECTS OUT. THANK YOU. UM, SO I, I JUST WANNA SAY, UM, THIS IS REALLY A DIFFERENT SITUATION THAN WHAT WE'VE SEEN ON ST. MARY'S. THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS WITH THAT IN DISTRICT ONE, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT AND, UM, FOR THOSE REASONS, UH, THIS IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR ITEM 10. THANK YOU. SEE YES. MOTION FOR APPROVAL, UM, WITH THE CONDITIONS OF OUTDOOR AMPLIFICATION OF SOUND FROM 4:00 PM TO MIDNIGHT MONDAY THROUGH, SORRY, SUNDAY THROUGH SATURDAY. UH, TUESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY. TUESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY. THANK YOU . ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. THERE IS A MOTION, UH, FOR APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION AS STATED ON THE RECORD. IS THERE A SECOND? WE'LL SECOND THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER BARDOS SAYS THE SECOND DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES. UM, I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION. UM, AND I WANNA THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, PLURAL. UM, AND, UM, THIS IS, THIS IS, UH, I'M USUALLY VERY, UH, IN A MUCH IN AGREEMENT WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE WHEN IT COMES TO, TO SOUND AROUND AREAS. AND, UM, THIS TIME IT'S IN FACING MY NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THERE YOU GO. UM, BUT, UH, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION WITH, BECAUSE OF THE CONDITIONS OF, OF THE, UH, AMPLIFICATION HOURS. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS. TO MY RIGHT. SEEING NONE, UH, I'M GLAD THAT WE ALL LEARNED SOMETHING TODAY REGARDING THAT LIMITATION. 'CAUSE THAT DOES, I THINK, MAKE IT A LOT EASIER FOR THIS COMMISSION TO SUPPORT YOUR, UH, REQUEST. I, I WANTED TO SUPPORT IT FROM THE OUTSET, UH, AND NOT JUST BECAUSE MR. LOPEZ, UH, WAS THE DJ AT MY WEDDING . UM, BUT UH, IT ALL COMES OUT . UM, BUT I'M, I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT I, I THINK THE OUTCOME'S GONNA BE VERY GOOD FOR YOU HERE. ALRIGHT. THE, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION OF, UM, AMPLITUDE AMPLIFIED SOUND ONLY FROM 4:00 PM TO MIDNIGHT TUESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY. UH, BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROWS? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER LEGIA HOLLAND? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON NOW TO ITEM NUMBER SIX. OH. AND WHILE WE WAIT FOR THIS FOR ONE SECOND AT 3 0 5, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ RETURNED TO THE MEETING AND IT IS NOW THREE 18 AND COMMISSIONER SIPES IS STEPPING UP. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS ANNE BEAVIS, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER SIX IS LOCATED AT 9 8 3 1 VILLAGE BRIER GOING FROM R FOUR TO R FOUR S WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. THERE WERE 32 NOTICES MAILED OUT WITH ONE RECEIVED BACK IN FAVOR INTO AN OPPOSITION AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM HIDDEN MEADOW NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE CURRENT R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED SPECIFIC USE INTRODUCES MORE CHILDREN AND MORE COMMERCIAL LIKE ACTIVITY TO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS INTENSITY OF IS OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THAT OF THEIR SURROUNDING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS IN THE AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, IF THE APPLICANT CAN COME UP AND PLEASE ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. INTRODUCE YOURSELF, GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROJECT PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M ROSE PPES. I RESIDE AT 98 31 VILLAGE PRYOR. UH, WE'RE ASKING FOR A REZONING OF OUR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY FOR SPECIFIC USE FOR CHILD, UH, A LICENSED CHILDCARE CENTER. WE'RE CURRENTLY A RESIDENTIAL CHILDCARE CENTER AND WE'D LIKE TO TRANSFORM TO A LICENSED CENTER, WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO OPEN UP TWO MORE CLASSROOMS WITHIN OUR RESIDENTS AND WE WOULD BE FORCED TO [02:10:01] MOVE OUT AS A REQUIREMENT THROUGH TEXAS CHILDCARE LICENSING. UH, APRIL 28TH, WE DID PURCHASE THE PROPERTY WITH THE INTENT TO ONLY, UH, EDUCATE SIX CHILDREN. I HAVE SIX, UH, EIGHT YEARS EXPERIENCE IN CHILDCARE DUE TO C O V I D. I DID TAKE A EIGHT MONTH LEAVE, UH, DUE TO THE WORK CONDITIONS AND, UH, LACK OF CHILDREN IN CHILDCARE. SO THE NEXT BEST OPTION WAS FOR ME TO TRY AND DO CHILDCARE WITHIN MY HOME. AS I AM VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION. MAY 1ST, UH, WE DID ARRIVE ON PROPERTY JUST TO KIND OF SET UP A PLAN, SEE WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO ON THE PROPERTY. UH, OUR BACKYARD WAS VERY EMPTY. IT DID HAVE A CHICKEN COOP PRIOR TO US LIVING THERE. UH, WE IMMEDIATELY STARTED TO SET UP THE GARDEN 'CAUSE THAT WAS A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE, UH, FOR OUR IDEA OF A NATURE-BASED ACADEMY. UH, BY JUNE WE HAD FINISHED ABOUT HALF OF THE WORK IN THE BACKYARD. WE CLOSED UP THE CHICKEN COOP. WE DID, UH, USE RECYCLED MATERIALS THAT WERE ON PROPERTY AND SOME THAT WERE DONATED LOCALLY. THIS WAS THE FIRST CLASSROOM THAT WE HAD INITIALLY SET UP WITH THE INTENTION OF EDUCATING FOUR TO SIX CHILDREN. UH, ONCE WE DID GET OUR INSPECTION THROUGH TEXAS CHILDCARE LICENSING, UH, WE WERE ADVISED TO USE A SMALLER CLASSROOM SINCE WE WERE ONLY AIMING TO DO FOUR TO SIX CHILDREN. IT'S A PICTURE OF OUR KITCHEN. UH, WE DO PREPARE ALL MEALS ON SITE. WE DO PUSH FOR ORGANIC MEALS. UH, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CHURCH, UH, NOURISHING THE CHILDREN ACCURATELY TO PROVIDE A HEALTHY SETTING. UH, THIS IS PART OF OUR BACKYARD SETUP. WE DO GIVE THE CHILDREN COMPLETE ACCESS TO OUR BACKYARD. UH, WE DO HAVE TWO JUNGLE GYMS, UH, APPROPRIATE FOR TWO DIFFERENT AGE RANGES, ONE FOR TWO YEARS OLD, AND THE OTHER ONE FOR SIX AND OLDER. UH, THIS IS OUR OUTDOOR LIBRARY AREA. UH, WE DO READ OUTDOORS UNDER THE TREE. IT IS CHILD INITIATED. UH, IF WE DO HAVE A LESSON PLAN THAT THEY'RE VERY INTERESTED IN, WE DO TAKE IT OUTDOORS AS WELL. UNDERNEATH THE TREES, SORRY. UH, AS OF JULY, UH, JULY, WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, TEXAS CHILDCARE LICENSING. WE DID RECEIVE OUR PERMIT JULY 12TH. UH, THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF MY C D A. IT IS A CHILD DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATES CERTIFICATE STATING THAT I AM A CERTIFIED PRESCHOOL TEACHER, UH, MY DIRECTOR'S CREDENTIAL AND MY PERMIT, UH, THROUGH CHILDCARE LICENSING. THIS IS OUR FRONT, OUR GARDENING AREA. UH, WHEN WE DID MOVE IN, WE DIDN'T HAVE, UH, ANY LANDSCAPING WHATSOEVER IN THE FRONT. SO WE DID USE, ONCE AGAIN, RECYCLED MATERIALS TO BUILD A WALKWAY. UH, WE DID GET PLANTS PUT IN, AND THIS IS ALSO A SECOND LEARNING AREA WHERE CHILDREN ARE ABLE TO, UH, HELP MAINTAIN OUR GARDEN AND SEE WHAT IT TAKES TO CARE FOR SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM. WE DO PROVIDE DIAPERS AND WIPES, UH, AT ENROLLMENT AND IF NEEDED, THROUGHOUT THEIR ENROLLMENT PERIOD, THEY HAVE, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO REACH INTO OUR DIAPER AND WIPE CABINET. JULY THROUGH AUGUST, WE DID END UP WITH AN ENROLLMENT OF FIVE CHILDREN WHERE WE WERE ADVISED TO MOVE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL CLASSROOM THROUGH TEXAS CHILDCARE LICENSING. UH, J UH, SORRY. WE DID START OFF WITH THE FOUR CHILDREN, WHICH WAS THIS CLASSROOM, WHICH WE DID OUTGROW BY LATE JULY, AND WE DID MOVE INTO THE OTHER CLASSROOM ROOM. THIS IS A PICTURE OF ONE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS, MS. YESENIA, WHO'S CURRENTLY OUT ON MATERNITY LEAVE. UH, AND YOU CAN SEE THE CHILDREN WERE ENJOYING THE BACKYARD. THESE WERE THE FIRST THREE CHILDREN THAT WERE, SORRY, FIRST TWO CHILDREN THAT WERE ENROLLED WITH US IN JULY. UH, THERE'S A FEW PHOTOGRAPHS THAT WE'LL GO THROUGH JUST SHOWING, UH, THEIR TIME SPENT AT NATURE BEAR ACADEMY. THESE ARE SOME RASPBERRIES THAT WE DID HAVE GROWING IN THE BACKYARD WHERE THE CHILDREN GOT TO SEE IT, UH, JUST FROM PLANTING IT INTO THE GROUND TO PRODUCING RASPBERRIES WHERE THEY DID GET TO TASTE ON THEIR OWN. UH, THESE ARE SOME OF OUR ORGANIC MEALS THAT WE PROVIDE. WE DO TRY TO, UH, PURCHASE ITEMS LOCALLY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. IN THE EVENT THAT WE DON'T HAVE LOCAL PRODUCE, THEN WE DO REACH OUT TO, UH, NEIGHBORING STORES. HERE'S SOME PICTURES OF OUR MEAL TIMES. WE DO A FAMILY STYLE MEAL SERVING JUST TO ENCOURAGE A CONVERSATION DURING OUR MEALS AS WE WOULD AT HOME TO ENCOURAGE SOCIALIZING SKILLS, UH, IN THE BACKYARD. WE DID MAKE OUR OWN PAINT BRUSHES OUT OF MATERIAL WE FOUND IN THE BACKYARD, PINE NEEDLES, BRANCHES, AND THEY GOT TO SET UP THEIR ART CENTER IN OUR BACKYARD. IN AUGUST, [02:15:01] WE DID OUTGROW THE SECOND CLASSROOM THAT WE OPENED. SO THEN WE MOVED INTO THE LARGEST ROOM IN OUR HOME, WHICH WAS CONSIDERED THE MASTER BEDROOM. IT WAS A CONVERTED GARAGE. UH, AND THIS IS WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE AT. WE ARE AUTHORIZED TO ENROLL UP TO 12 CHILDREN, SIX UNDER THE AGE OF FIVE IN THE AM SIX OVER THE AGE OF FIVE, WHO ARE ENROLLED IN SCHOOL, FOUR AFTERSCHOOL HOURS ONLY. UH, THIS IS MISS NIA WITH HER CHILD WHO WAS ENROLLED PREVIOUSLY FRANCISCO, AND OUR FIRST CHILD THAT WE DID SEND OFF TO ELEMENTARY. UH, FRANCISCO IS 10 MONTHS AT THIS TIME. UH, HE WASN'T WALKING YET WHEN HE ARRIVED. IN THIS PHOTOGRAPH, YOU CAN SEE HE'S NOW STANDING IN THE BACKYARD. HE'S ENJOYING EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE TO OFFER TO HIM BY SEPTEMBER, UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT FRANCISCO'S MUCH HAPPIER. UH, THE CHILD IN THE MIDDLE IS ANNA. SHE IS NON-VERBAL. SHE IS ON THE, UH, AUTISM SPECTRUM. AND HERE YOU CAN SEE SHE'S NOW ALLOWED ME TO TAKE A PHOTOGRAPH FROM THE FRONT OF HER FACE. PREVIOUSLY SHE WOULD NOT ALLOW PHOTOGRAPHS OR TOO CLOSE INTERACTION. AND THERE SHE WAS MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE WITH US PHOTOGRAPHING HER. FRANCISCO'S NOW MOVING AROUND. HE'S ABLE TO WALK FREELY ON HIS OWN AND EXPLORE WITHOUT THE ASSISTANCE OF A TEACHER. . ONCE AGAIN, ANNA IS COMFORTABLE WITH PHOTOGRAPHS. SHE'S PULLING TOYS OUT ON HER OWN. WHEN SHE ENROLLED IN JULY, UH, SHE WAS VERY, VERY MUCH CLOSED OFF. DIDN'T, UH, INITIATE CONVERSATION SOCIALIZING OR DIDN'T INVITE CHILDREN TO PLAY. UH, ON FRIDAYS DURING THE FALL SEASON, WE DO HAVE FOOTBALL FRIDAYS WHERE WE ENCOURAGE CHILDREN TO WEAR, UH, THEIR FAVORITE SPORTS TEAM. UH, THEY'RE ABLE TO NOW SHARE SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN, IN THEIR FAMILY AND BRING TO OUR ACADEMY TO SHARE WITH OTHER CHILDREN TO ENCOURAGE SOCIALIZING. HERE'S A PICTURE OF ADRIAN AND FRANCISCO IN THE BACKYARD. ADRIAN IS TWO YEARS OLD, BUT JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, HE'S ALLOWED TO HELP GARDEN. HE'S ALLOWED TO HELP WATER. UH, FRANCISCO'S ONE YEARS OLD WHEN HE DIS-ENROLLED IN JANUARY. SINCE THEN, HE HAS BECOME A BIG BROTHER AND WOULD LIKE TO ENROLL WITH BABY SISTER ZLA. WE ARE CURRENTLY AT OUR MAXIMUM CAPACITY, SO I DO NOT HAVE THE AVAILABLE SPACE FOR FRANCISCO, NOR HIS SISTER, UH, ACT. IN OCTOBER, FRANCISCO, UH, WAS ABLE TO WALK HIMSELF INTO OUR CENTER. HE WAS DENYING MOM'S HELP TO ENTER. HE WANTED TO WALK HIMSELF ON IN. AFTER THAT, HE WAS THAT COMFORTABLE. UH, HERE'S SOME PICTURES OF OUR GARDEN. UH, SOME OF THE VEGETABLES THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GROW. SOME ARE DAISIES, AND THESE ARE ALL ITEMS THAT THE CHILDREN WERE ABLE TO DONATE AND PLANT THEMSELVES. UH, THESE ARE MORE PICTURES OF OTHER CHILDREN WHO HAVE ENROLLED SINCE, UH, OPENING. THIS IS A PICTURE OF OUR FIRST FIELD TRIP. TRADITIONALLY IN CHILDCARE SETTINGS, THEY DO NOT ENCOURAGE FIELD TRIPS FOR CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF THREE. BECAUSE OUR CENTER IS SO SMALL AND WE DO WORK IN SMALL RATIOS, WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE ALL CHILDREN ENROLLED. EVEN OUR CHILDREN WHO ARE ONE YEARS OLD WERE ABLE TO ATTEND ON OUR FIELD TRIP, UH, IN NOVEMBER, IN NOVEMBER, UH, WE DID HAVE MORE CHANGES. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S BE THE CLIP. IT SHOULD BE A CLIP. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'LL PLAY. OH, IT'S, UH, NOVEMBER. WE DID INTRODUCE, UH, THE TRADITIONAL HOLIDAY HERE IN AMERICA, WHICH WAS THANKSGIVING. ONE CHILD, UH, WHO IS, UH, WHO WASN'T FAMILIAR WITH THE TRADITION, UH, WAS ABLE TO SEE WHAT WE CELEBRATE HERE IN AMERICA. AND HE WAS ALSO ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT ALTHOUGH IT MIGHT NOT BE CELEBRATED WITHIN HIS HOME, IT'S SOMETHING THAT HIS FRIENDS ENJOY AND HE WAS ABLE TO LEARN ABOUT IT. SORRY, THESE WERE CLIPS THAT I, I GUESS THEY DIDN'T ATTACH. WELL, OUR PURPOSE FOR OUR REZONING, OF COURSE, IS TO ENROLL MORE CHILDREN, PRIMARILY TO ENROLL SIBLINGS OF CHILDREN WHO ARE ALREADY ENROLLED. I DO HAVE A FAMILY THAT HAS ONE CHILD FULL-TIME AND THEIR SECOND CHILD ONLY QUALIFIES FOR PART-TIME DUE TO THE RATIOS THAT ARE IN PLACE THROUGH TEXAS. CHILDCARE LICENSING. WITH OUR CURRENT ZONING IN DECEMBER, WE WERE ABLE TO HARVEST FROM OUR GARDEN. WE DID HARVEST SOME TOMATOES, UH, SOME BANANA PEPPERS. THANK YOU, MS. . THAT'S, THAT'S YOUR TIME. ALRIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS? I KNOW THAT WE HAD A GREAT DEAL, UH, LAST MEETING WITH SOME OF THE VOICEMAILS. NO, SIR. WE DON'T HAVE ANY THIS TIME. ALRIGHT. UM, COMMISSIONER [02:20:01] HUI, THIS IS YOU FOR QUESTIONS. YES. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. UH, MR. LP, THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN TO, UH, PRESENT YOUR CASE AND, UM, YOUR FACILITY LOOKS FUN AND IT LOOKS VERY, UH, NURTURING. I DROVE BY LAST THURSDAY, SO I, I GOT A BETTER APPRECIATION OF IT. UH, JUST A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU. WHAT IS THE SQUARE FOOT FOOTAGE OF YOUR AVAILABLE SPACE AT YOUR FACILITY? 1000 111 AND 15. I BELIEVE. I DID NOT BRING MY NOTE WITH THE ACTUAL SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY USING. UH, RIGHT NOW YOU CAN SEE OUR, WHERE OUR CURRENT CLASSROOM IS SET UP, WE ARE ASKING TO OPEN UP TWO MORE, WHICH WOULD BE OUR LIVING AREA SPACE, WHICH IS THE 16 BY 13 AND THE BACK CORNER, WHICH IS 12 BY 13. OUR BACK CORNER WE WOULD LIKE TO USE FOR THREE INFANTS. OUR LIVING ROOM FOR A TOTAL OF SIX CHILDREN WHO WOULD BE PRESCHOOLERS. OKAY. AND HELP ME REMEMBER RIGHT, THESE, HOW MANY CHILDREN DO YOU HAVE ENROLLED CURRENTLY? WE CURRENTLY HAVE 16. I'M ALLOWED TO HAVE 12 DAILY. SOME OF THEM ARE SEASONAL, WHICH ONLY ATTEND ON NON-SCHOOL DAYS. UH, WE DO HAVE THREE THAT ARE PART-TIME WHO DO NOT ATTEND EVERY DAY. AND HOW MANY CARETAKERS DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR FACILITY? THREE. OKAY. AND HOW MUCH PARKING DO YOU ALLOCATE TO THEM AND WHAT DO THEY PARK? UH, WE HAVE A PROGRAM CALLED, SORRY, SHARE THE ROAD. IT'S WHERE WE DO PROMOTE, UH, PER STAFF TO CARPOOL. I ALSO HAVE A SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH VIA, WHERE I WOULD PROVIDE BUS PASSES TO STAFF WHO WOULD LIKE TO, UM, USE ALTERNATE TRANSPORTATION TO ARRIVE. ONE OF OUR MISSIONS, OF COURSE, RATHER THAN JUST EDUCATING THE CHILDREN, IS TO PROVIDE EDUCATION OF OUR SURROUNDINGS, MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PRESERVING THE ENVIRONMENT. AND FOR THAT REASON, WE HAVE CERTAIN, UH, POLICIES IN PLACE TO ENCOURAGE STAFF TO CARPOOL, ENCOURAGE STAFF TO USE ALTERNATIVE, UH, TRANSPORTATION AS WELL. SO WHEN THEY CARPOOL, WHAT DO THEY PARK? THE CAR. I HAVE THEM CARPOOL. THEY DO PARK ON MY DRIVEWAY AS WELL AS MY PERSONAL VEHICLE. OKAY. UM, SO I APPRECIATE THE SERVICE YOU PROVIDE, THE SERVICE YOU PROVIDE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WHEN WE COMMUNICATED, YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, PREPARING THE ORGANIC MEALS AND I SAW THAT IT LOOKS DELICIOUS AND I WISH I WOULD'VE TAKEN YOU UP ON THE TOURS. I COULD HAVE SAMPLED SOME OF THAT. UM, AND YOU ALSO HAD A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PARENTS WHO USE YOUR FACILITY SUPPORTING YOUR, YOUR, UH, YOUR, YOUR REZONING REQUEST. SO I GET THE FEELING THAT YOU PROVIDE EXCELLENT CARE FOR THE, FOR THE CHILDREN. SO, MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO GIVE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THE QUESTIONS BEFORE I MAKE MY MOTION. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT. ALRIGHT. UH, LET ME ASK YOU, MS. IES, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE CONCERN THAT I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE HERE IS, UH, THE DROP OFF OF STUDENTS BY PARENTS. HOW LONG DOES THAT TAKE TYPICALLY? UH, ON AVERAGE, THREE TO FIVE MINUTES. OKAY. I HA DO HAVE ONE CHILD WHO TENDS TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER, WHICH WOULD BE OUR AUTISTIC CHILD. UM, IF THERE IS A MELTDOWN, SOMETIMES IT DOES TAKE LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES, BUT THEY ARE UNDER, UH, THEY DO HAVE THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT IS PULL UP, DROP OFF, AND TO NOT BLOCK ANY DRIVEWAYS IN THE AREA. SO STILL SORT OF ON THE ORDER OF, YOU KNOW, AN AMAZON DELIVERY, MAYBE A BIGGER ITEM, SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR THE TIME THAT IT TAKES TO GET THE KIDS OUT AND GO UP TO THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, THINGS LIKE THAT? CORRECT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. UH, THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. ANYONE ELSE? QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER, WE TO YOU, UH, FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. SO, MR. LP, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE SERVICE YOU PROVIDE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT YOUR CASE AS RELATED TO ZONING AND HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CONSIDER THE PROPERTY USE. RIGHT? YOUR PROPERTY IS, RIGHT NOW IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF A BLOCK OF R FOURS AND I BELIEVE YOUR HOUSE, THESE HOUSES ARE BUILT ON A ZERO LOT LINE. SO THEY'RE PRETTY PACKED IN. UM, I DIDN'T, I I, WHEN I DROVE BY, I ALWAYS SAW IT WAS AVAILABLE, PARKING WAS A DRIVEWAY, AND WHEN I DROVE DOWN THE STREET, THE STREET WAS FAIRLY NARROW THAT THERE WERE CARS PARKED ON EITHER SIDE OF THE [02:25:01] ROAD THAT ONLY ALLOWED FOR ONE CAR TO GET BY. AND, YOU KNOW, INCREASING THE, THE LAND USE INTENSITY AS YOU HAVE REQUESTED. REALLY? I, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S CONSISTENT WITH YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND I CAN'T SUPPORT YOUR REQUEST. SO, MR. CHAIR, AT THIS TIME, I MOVED TO DENY THIS APPLICATION. OKAY. THERE IS A MOTION FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER HU. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. THERE'S A SECOND. BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT? YES. COMMISSIONER. OH, UH, I WAS JUST GONNA MAKE A COMMENT. I DO COMMEND. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING FOR THE SERVICE AND EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING. THEY DO NEED THAT. UM, THE ONLY REASON I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS, I LIKE COMMISSIONER, WE SAID, I JUST DON'T SEE IT IF IT'S APPROPRIATE TO THE, THE, THE AREA THAT IT'S SITTING AT RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT, THANKS FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN THE COMMUNITY. I'VE, I HAVE TWO SMALL KIDS AND THEY'VE BENEFITED FROM EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION, BUT, UM, I JUST DO SEE THAT THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE, UM, ISSUE THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT HERE, I JUST THINK THAT THE FACT THAT THE STREET IS SO NARROW WHITE COMMISSIONER WE MENTIONED AND, AND THE LACK OF PARKING IS, IS A PRETTY BIG CONCERN FOR ME. BUT, UM, OTHERWISE IT, IT LOOKS LIKE A BEAUTIFUL OPERATION. ALRIGHT. AND I THINK I'M GONNA PIGGYBACK ON THE SAME. I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY WANTED TO SUPPORT THIS. I REALLY DO. UM, AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL FIND A PROPERTY THAT'S APPROPRIATE AT SOME POINT AND BE ABLE TO GROW YOUR BUSINESS, UH, TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE THAT THE VOICEMAILS THAT WE HEARD LAST MEETING WERE SO STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF AND SUCH GREAT TESTIMONIALS. UM, BUT UNFORTUNATELY I THINK, UH, THIS IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE USE GIVEN THIS PURELY RESIDENTIAL AREA. ALRIGHT. UM, MY LEAST FAVORITE PART OF THIS JOB. UM, ALRIGHT. UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. UH, THE MOTION IS FOR DENIAL OF ITEM NUMBER SIX BY COMMISSIONER WHEAT AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. ROLL CALL VOTE COMMISSIONER WE HI. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER BURROWS? YES. COMMISSIONER LAG HOLLAND? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES. ABSTAIN CHAIR BUSTAMANTE AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR DENIAL. MS. YUPE, WE WISH YOU ALL THE BEST. I PROMISE YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, SPEAKING OF THAT, UH, AT 3 22, COMMISSIONER SIPES RETURNED. UM, THAT WAS A NON-SEQUITUR. UH, BUT ANY EVENT, UM, WE ARE GONNA MOVE ON NOW TO, UM, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, MARCO MAVI, PLAN COORDINATOR FOR ZONING. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS LOCATED AT 44 34 BRADMAN DRIVE GOING FROM R FIVE M L D THREE ML R 1 2 0 1. ALL OVERLAYS REMAIN THE SAME. 22 NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT FOREIGN SUPPORT, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE EXISTING R FIVE IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED OH ONE OFFICE IS NOT APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL BE AN ENCROACHMENT INTO THE ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD AND WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE ALONG A LOCAL STREET. ALTHOUGH THEIR EXISTING COMMERCIAL AND NON-RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE AREA THAT ARE FRONTING SOUTH W W WHITE, UH, PRIMARY ARTERIAL STAFF RECOMMENDS NILE AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT. ALL RIGHT, MR. MCKNIGHT, IF YOU WOULD TRY TO BRING US UP A LITTLE BIT. THANK YOU. I'LL DO MY BEST. OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY. JAMES MCKNIGHT 1 1 2 EAST PECAN HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO, AS STAFF SAID, THIS IS A SMALL LOT. THIS IS A QUARTER, QUARTER OF AN ACRE AND IT'S OWNED BY THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER. SORRY, LEMME GET THIS GOING HERE. THE PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT TO IT. THIS RIGHT HERE IS A HYDRAULICS RETAIL SHOP AND IT'S OWNED BY, UH, [02:30:01] THE SAME OWNER AS THE LOT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE. SO LEMME TAKE YOU THROUGH THIS NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. YOU SAID THE CURRENT ZONING IS R FIVE. I TOLD YOU THE, THE SHOP THERE IS FOR, UH, MACHINERY TOOLS AND SOME SERVICES. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT WHAT'S BELOW US, WHICH IS A TIRE SHOP. THIS LOT HERE WAS REZONED FROM, UH, I ONE TO THIS, UH, CONDITIONAL USE FOR, UM, AUTO REPAIR JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT AS PART OF OUR ARGUMENT AS TO WHY THIS IS NOT AN ENCROACHMENT IN THIS CASE. UM, OUR PURPOSE IS FOR JUST OFFICE SPACE. SO THIS, OH, I LOST, THERE IT IS. RIGHT BETWEEN US IS AN ALLEY THAT'S A PUBLIC ALLEY. SO THIS IS NOT A CASE OF US EXPANDING THIS BUSINESS INTO THE LOT THAT'S NEXT TO US IS WHAT OCCURRED TO THE SOUTH OF US. THIS IS A CASE WHERE WE WANNA BE ABLE TO USE THIS LOT SIMPLY FOR OFFICES ONLY. UM, SOME OF THE OFFICES THAT ARE PART OF THAT RETAIL SHOP, THEY'RE IN THERE ALREADY. HE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THOSE TWO, THREE, SOMETIMES FOUR EMPLOYEES OVER TO THE SPACE, UH, THAT IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THEM, WHICH IS NOT IN THE RETAIL SHOP ITSELF. SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO EXPAND THAT BUSINESS AT ALL. WE JUST WANNA MOVE THOSE OFFICES OUT INTO THEIR SPACE AND THEN, UM, BE ABLE TO EXPAND ON THE, THE LOT ITSELF, THE C TWO LOT FOR ANY OF THAT RETAIL BUSINESS. SO THE HOUSE, AS IT STANDS, WILL STAY AS IT IS. THAT'S NOT THE, THE, THE CURRENT PLAN RIGHT NOW TO, TO DEMOLISH THAT HOUSE AND, AND START BUILDING AN OFFICE BUILDING. WE WANNA KEEP IT AS IT IS. WE JUST WANNA BE ABLE TO MOVE THOSE FOLKS OUT. AND AS I SAID, THERE IS ALREADY A PRECEDENT, UH, SOUTH OF US. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS WAS THE PLAN AMENDMENT THAT WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN APRIL. AND AS YOU CAN SEE IT'S LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL RIGHT NOW AND IT'S HIGH DENSITY MIXED USE TO THE EAST OF US ALL ALONG, UH, WW WHITE. AND WE ACTUALLY ARGUED THIS AS THIS TRANSITION PROPERTY AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE THE SAME ARGUMENT IN, IN ZONING AS WELL FOR LOW DENSITY MIXED USE PROVIDED THIS, THIS GOOD TRANSITION PUTTING A REALLY HIGH INTENSITY AND A VERY LOW INTENSITY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF US. UH, AND THAT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL IN APRIL. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THAT'S A PHOTO OF THE HOUSE. AS IT STANDS, IT'S A FAIRLY LARGE HOUSE, BUT ONE IMPORTANT THING ABOUT THIS IS FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS, THIS HAS ACTUALLY BEEN USED FOR A NON-RESIDENTIAL PURPOSE. IT WAS USED FOR A, A HINDU TEMPLE AND HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE DRIVING THERE ONCE A WEEK TO PARK THEIR CARS ALONG THE STREET. UH, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE RESIDENTS DIDN'T APPRECIATE, TO BE HONEST. UM, SO THEY WERE ACTUALLY IN FAVOR OF US TAKING OVER THIS PROPERTY AND USING IT FOR SOMETHING THAT'S A LOT LESS INTENSIVE. AND THAT INTENSITY IS THIS, OH ONE ZONING. OH ONE ZONING IS, IS PROBABLY THE MOST RESTRICTIVE ZONING THAT YOU CAN GET. IT ALLOWS OUT OF 460 USES IN THE MATRIX. 'CAUSE I COUNTED 'EM ALL 460 USES. THERE ARE 36 ALLOWABLE USES ON HERE AND MOST OF THEM ARE OFFICE. SOME OF THOSE ARE CHURCH AND AND SCHOOLS AS WELL. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, ALL YOU GET IN OH ONE IS OFFICE. AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY ALL WE'RE LOOKING FOR HERE. THINGS THAT ARE APPROPRIATE, I THINK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ESPECIALLY AT THIS HEIGHT, THERE IS NO GREATER HEIGHT IN OH ONE THAN YOU WOULD SEE AT A SINGLE FAMILY LOT. AND YOU HAVE THE, WITH THE OH ONE, YOU ACTUALLY PROVIDE A, AN ADDITIONAL BUFFER IF THEY WERE TO CONSTRUCT AN OFFICE BUILDING THERE RIGHT NOW, IT WOULD BE NON-CONFORMING. IF THEY WERE TO CONSTRUCT AN OFFICE BUILDING. THERE IS A 20 FOOT SETBACK AND TYPE B LANDSCAPE BUFFER THERE. THAT WOULD BE, UM, BETWEEN US AND THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WHEN YOU PUT ALL THAT TOGETHER, THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED TO THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT. WE WENT DOOR TO DOOR AND ACTUALLY, UM, GOT SUPPORT FROM THE FOLKS THAT ARE NEXT TO US AND ACROSS FROM US. 44 31 HAS GIVEN US VERBAL SUPPORT BUT DIDN'T SIGN THE LETTER ONCE WE ACTUALLY SHOWED UP . SO I ACTUALLY HAD THAT DOT, UH, CHECKED FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT HAD TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM NOW. 'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL LETTER. BUT, UM, ALL IN ALL THIS IS, THIS IS REALLY ABOUT A TRANSITION PROPERTY BETWEEN THE HIGH INTENSITY AREA AND LOW INTENSITY USES TO THE WEST. AND OH, ONE AGAIN, IS THIS VERY LOW INTENSIVE USE. I DON'T SEE THIS AS AN ENCROACHMENT. I SEE THIS AS A TRANSITION. UM, SOUTH OF US HAS SEEN SOMEWHAT OF AN ENCROACHMENT, BUT THE, THE NEIGHBORS HAVE ALL SAID THAT THERE HAS NOT BEEN AN ISSUE. SO OUR ISSUE IS REALLY MORE ABOUT JUST SUPPORTING THAT LOCAL BUSINESS AND, UH, THOSE FEW OFFICES I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. MCKNIGHT. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? NO, SIR. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS IS A DISTRICT TWO CASE, BUT AS COMMISSIONER WATSON IS NOT PRESENT, COMMISSIONER SIPES IS GOING TO HANDLE THE CASE. I'M GONNA GRILL ME. OKAY. ALRIGHT. LET'S SEE IF I CAN COME UP WITH ANY QUESTIONS. UM, I GUESS A QUESTION FOR [02:35:02] STAFF TO REMIND ME. OFFICE USE, I KNOW WE'VE, WE'VE, WE'VE SEEN WHERE, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE SEEN CONVERSIONS OF, OF RESIDENTIAL TO OFFICE USE. IS IT IN THIS OH ONE WHERE SIGNAGE IS LIMITED AND THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL LIMITATIONS OR IT WAS WHEN WE WOULD DO A CONDITIONAL USE? RIGHT. OKAY. NEVER. SORRY. IT JUST OCCURRED TO ME AS I WAS, AS, AS I WAS SPEAKING. UM, I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OTHER THAN THAT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SIPES, UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, JUST ONE QUESTION. YOU MAY HAVE COVERED THIS. PARKING, PARKING IS ALL, UM, OFF STREET. I MEAN WE HAVE, WE HAVE ROOM FOR IT AND OF COURSE, UM, IF IT WERE, IF WE DID CONSTRUCT, UH, AN OFFICE STRUCTURE, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PERMIT THAT WITHOUT THE PROPERTY PARKING, PROPER PARKING OFF STREET. PERFECT. THANKS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. AND THEN THE STRUCTURE. MR. MCKNIGHT'S GONNA STAY ONE STORY, RIGHT? IT'S NOT GOING TWO STORY. NO, SIR. OKAY, THANKS. IT'S, IT'S NOT THAT BIG A BUSINESS. . ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT? COMM? NOPE. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? NOPE. ALRIGHT. UM, COMMERS TO MY RIGHT. ALRIGHT. COMMISSIONER SIPES TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION. ALRIGHT, WELL, UM, COMMISSIONER WATSON ACTUALLY DID, UH, TEXT US SAYING THAT SHE WAS IN FAVOR OF, OF THIS, UH, PROJECT. UM, SO WITH THAT, AND CONSIDERING THE, UH, TIRE SHOP THAT'S IMMEDIATELY SOUTH TO IT, UM, IT KIND OF SQUARES UP THE, THE, THE ZONING A LITTLE BIT. I WILL BE MAKING A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. ALRIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. UM, I'M GONNA GO WITH COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, UH, FOR THE SECOND. UM, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. I JUST WANNA SAY, UM, THAT I APPRECIATE JAMES'S, UH, COMMENT WITH RESPECT TO THE BUFFER 'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS MISSED OUT A LOT ON, ON, UM, SOME OF THE ZONING ISSUES THAT WE HAVE, ESPECIALLY IN OUR DISTRICT. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER EIGHT BY COMMISSIONER SIPES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BURROWS? YES. COMMISSIONER LEG HOLLAND? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, WE ARE NOW GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 18. BEST SPEEDED MOD ZCO ZONING PLANNER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER 18 IS LOCATED 30 500,000 OAKS DRIVE GOING FROM C TWO TO P U D MF 18 WITH A REDUCED PERIMETER SETBACK OF 10 FEET. AND WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME, THERE ARE 75 NOTICES SENT OUT. FOUR IN FAVOR. SEVEN OPPOSED WITHIN THE 200 FEET. ONE IN FAVOR OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET, NO RESPONSE FROM EDEN HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OR OAK RIDGE VILLAGE. H O A THE REQUESTED REZONING TO MF 18 IS AN APPROPRIATE REQUEST GIVEN THE PROPERTY'S LOCATION ON A CORRIDOR AND ITS ABILITY TO SERVE AS A TRADI TRANSITIONARY BUFFER BETWEEN SURROUNDING COMMERCIAL AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES. FURTHERMORE, THE MF 18 LIMITED DENSITY MULTI-FAMILY DESIGNATION IS LESS INTENSE THAN THE CURRENT C TWO COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION AND WILL ASSIST IN ACHIEVING POLICY OBJECTIVES OF DIVERSIFYING HOUSING OPTIONS. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS CHAIR. EMILY WEISLER WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE. UM, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION. WE'RE GETTING IT UP. UM, I WILL TRY TO BE AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A VERY LONG DAY FOR EVERYONE. UM, AS STAFF MENTIONED, THIS PROPERTY IS, WE CAN START WITH THE SECOND ONE. YEAH, THANKS. UM, JUST OVER FIVE ACRES AT 30 500,000 OAKS. UM, SO WE ARE JUST NORTH OF WETMORE, UM, IN DISTRICT 10. UH, THIS PROPERTY MAY LOOK FAMILIAR TO SOME OF YOU. IT'S BEEN THE, IT'S BEEN LOOKED AT FOR A NUMBER OF PROJECTS OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. I THINK I'VE, I KNOW OF AT LEAST SIX DIFFERENT, UH, PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN LOOKED AT THIS SITE, UM, AND HAS NOT WORKED OUT, UH, FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER. UM, BUT WE ARE PROPOSING A REZONING HERE FROM F 18 AND HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, TO GET THEIR SUPPORT. UM, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE BIT. UM, BUT THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. UM, [02:40:01] A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS HAVE BEEN LOOKED AT HERE, AND I THINK THAT WE ARE FINALLY IN A PLACE WHERE, UH, WE HAVE A, A GOOD RIGHT FIT FOR THE COMMUNITY. IF WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS PROPERTY IS IN THE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT VICINITY PLAN. UM, IT'S CURRENTLY DESIGNATED COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL. WE WENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION LAST WEEK FOR, UH, PLAN AMENDMENT TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO FACILITATE THE REZONING, UM, STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. IT STAYED ON CONSENT, UM, AT PLANNING COMMISSION LAST WEEK. UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED C TWO, UM, BY RIGHT, WE'RE KIND OF SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL USES ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THOUSAND OAKS. UM, AND WE ARE PROPOSING A REZONING TO AN MF 18 POD. I WILL SHOW THE POD PLAN NEXT. UM, BUT THE M F 18 P, UM, WE'LL BE LOCKED IN BY THE PUD PLAN, BUT ALSO SERVE AS THAT CONTINUED BUFFER BETWEEN THOUSAND OAKS AND, UH, THE EDEN H O A. SO YOU CAN SEE IN THIS MAP WHERE IT SHOWS MYSTIC GROVE THAT IS THE REAR OF THAT FRONT STREET IN EDEN, H O A. SO WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH THOSE RESIDENTS AS WELL AS THE EDEN BOARD, UM, SINCE EARLY FEBRUARY ON THIS PROJECT, UM, TO WORK OUT THE DETAILS OF THE PROPOSAL. UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THIS IS THE PUD PLAN. SO WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 40 LOTS, WHICH IS A EQUIVALENT OF 80 UNITS. UM, OUR ORIGINAL PLAN WAS 44 LOTS AND 88 UNITS. UH, WE REMOVED FOUR LOTS TOTAL, THOSE TWO LOTS. UH, TWO OF THOSE LOTS ARE FRONTING BOULDER OAKS. YOU CAN SEE THOSE ARE PURE OPEN SPACE RIGHT NOW. AND THEN THE OTHER TWO LOTS CAME OFF THE, THE FAR BACKSIDE, YOU CAN SEE PARK SPACE PRESERVED IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER. UM, AND WE ALSO ADDED AN ADDITIONAL POINT OF ACCESS IN AND OUT OF THOUSAND OAKS. SO WE NOW HAVE ACCESS IN AND OUT OF BOULDER OAKS AND IN AND OUT OF THOUSAND OAKS. UH, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TALKING ABOUT GATING VERSUS NOT GATING. THIS WILL NOT BE A GATED COMMUNITY. UM, IT WILL HAVE ITS OWN H O A PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION, SO WILL BE INTERNALLY CONTROLLED AND MANAGED THERE, BUT WILL NOT GATING IT TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T CONTRIBUTE TO ANY TRAFFIC STACKING UP ON THOUSAND OAKS OR BOULDER OAKS TO KEEP THOSE ROADS FLOWING IN AND OUT OF THE COMMUNITY. UM, BOULDER OAKS IS A, A MAIN POINT OF ACCESS FOR, FOR EDEN, H O A. SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT CONTRIBUTING TO THAT, UH, ANY BACKUP THERE? UH, SO WE DID REDUCE THE PED PLAN BY EIGHT UNITS, FOUR LOTS. UM, IN ADDITION, WE ALSO ADDED PARKING THROUGHOUT THE SITE, SO WE HAVE A MINIMUM OF 160 PARKING SPACES. UM, AND THAT'S NOT INCLUDING GARAGES. SO, UM, EVERY UNIT HAS, UH, TWO PARKING SPACES AND THEN GARAGE SPACE. SO WE HAVE ONE TO TWO CAR DRIVEWAYS, ONE TO TWO CAR GARAGES, MINIMUM OF 160 SPOTS, SO THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE OVERFLOW PARKING ONTO THE INTERIOR PRIVATE DRIVE OR INTO THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS JUST AN ARCHITECTURAL AERIAL TO KIND OF SEE, UM, THOSE HOMES STACKED UP AGAINST THE THE REAR. UM, WE DO HAVE ABOUT A ONE-TO-ONE RATIO OF BACKYARD TO BACKYARD, UM, IN, IN MOST OF THE AREA ALONG MYSTIC GROVE. UM, BUT YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE TRAFFIC FLOW THERE. UM, WITH THE PUD PLAN, WE DO HAVE, DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO SET THE HOMES UP A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TO EX MAKE SURE THAT THE REAR SETBACKS, UM, THERE'S MORE SEPARATION BETWEEN US AND MYSTIC GROVE. WE HAVE ABOUT A 30 FOOT REAR SETBACK, UM, ON THE MYSTIC GROVE SIDE TO PROVIDE THAT EXTRA BUFFERING BETWEEN THEM. UM, WHAT YOU CAN'T SEE HERE IS THAT, UM, ON THE BACKSIDE OF MYSTIC GROVE RESIDENCE, UM, HOMES IS A VERY LARGE FENCE CRETE THAT GOES ACROSS THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE PROPERTY. WE ARE GOING TO BE IMPROVING THAT PAINTING, ADJUSTING THE, MAKING SURE THAT IT'S PHYSICAL STRUCTURE, UM, IS UP TO CODE. EVERYTHING IS TIGHT AND RED AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ADDING A SECONDARY FENCE. SO WE HAVE TALKED WITH MR. GROVE RESIDENTS AND THE EDEN BOARD ON SHARING THAT FENCE LINE, BUT WE'LL BE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT. THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE A SECONDARY FENCE AND KIND OF A NO MAN'S LAND BETWEEN THE TWO FENCES FOR EXTRA SECURITY PURPOSES. UH, NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS JUST A QUICK RENDERING, UM, OF THE DUPLEX PRODUCTS HERE. PAIRED HOMES. UM, THIS, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE TWO CAR GARAGES AND ONE CAR GARAGES. UM, WE'RE TALKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON, ON PAINT COLORS. UH, WE'RE NOT SET ON THE BLUE AND THE WHITE, BUT UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ONGOING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS WHAT COLOR WE'RE GONNA PAINT THEM. UH, THESE HOMES WILL GO FOR 525 TO ABOUT 545,000 EACH PER LOT. UM, SO, SO MARKET RATE ON THE HIGH END, UM, THERE, BUT, UH, DEFINITELY HAVE THE MARKET TO SUPPORT IT. UM, BUT BRINGING IN A DIVERSITY OF HOUSING TYPES IN THIS AREA THAT WE DO NOT HAVE, THERE ARE VERY LIMITED APARTMENTS, UM, IN THIS AREA OF THOUSAND OAKS AND JONES BOROUGH, PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. SO WE REALLY JUST HAVE AGING SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING PRODUCTS AND NOTHING REALLY NEW COMING IN. SO TRYING TO ADD SOME NEW DIVERSITY TO THE AREA. NEXT SLIDE. UM, SO THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY C TWO. WE DO HAVE SOME SITE PLANS FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. [02:45:01] UM, WHAT REALISTICALLY, THIS IS A VERY LONG AND NARROW, UH, NOT VERY DEEP PROPERTY. UM, WHICH POSITIONS ITSELF FOR KIND OF STRIP CENTER DEVELOPMENT? UM, IN OUR WORK WITH EDEN. AGAIN, THIS SITE HAS BEEN LOOKED AT MANY TIMES OVER THE YEARS. UM, THE BIGGEST CONCERN FOR EDEN RESIDENTS IS SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THOSE RESIDENTS ON MISTA GROVE. WHAT THE COMMERCIAL DOES NOT PROVIDE THAT THE RESIDENTIAL DOES IS, IS KIND OF SAFETY AND CONTROL. SO, UM, RESIDENTIAL LIGHTING IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN COMMERCIAL LIGHTING. HOURS OF OPERATION ARE VERY DIFFERENT. UM, YOU HAVE, UH, LOADING DUMPSTERS, ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS THAT COME WITH A LARGE SCALE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ACROSS FIVE ACRES. IN THIS SENSE, UM, IT WOULD BE A STRIP CENTER OF SORTS, UM, AND THAT IT HAS A LOT LESS CONTROL OVER IT AND A LOT LESS EXPECTATIONS THAT THE, THE COMMUNITY FEELS COMFORTABLE WITH. SO, UM, WE HAVE, WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT ONE PLEASE. SO WE HAVE MET WITH THE EDEN, H O A, UM, WE'VE MET WITH THEM FORMALLY TWICE. UM, WE'VE BEEN HAVING COMMUNICATIONS SINCE EARLY FEBRUARY. UM, WE ALSO HOSTED A LARGE COMMUNITY MEETING, UM, OPEN TO EVERYBODY JUST TWO WEEKS AGO. UM, GOTTEN A LOT OF GOOD FEEDBACK. THAT'S WHERE PUT PLAN REVISIONS CAME IN, UM, DISCUSSIONS ON GATING VERSUS NOT GATING, ADDITIONAL PARKING. ALL OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS WITH THE EDEN COMMUNITY. UM, AND THEY DO REMAIN SUPPORTIVE. UNFORTUNATELY, MY THREE FOLKS IN SUPPORT HERE, UM, TONIGHT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAD TO LEAVE. UM, THEY RAN OUT OF ENERGY TODAY. UM, BUT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY, VERY HARD WITH THE EDEN COMMUNITY, UM, ON MAKING SURE THAT THIS FITS IN VERY WELL. UM, NOT THEM, WE'RE JUST AGREEING WITH OH, THANK YOU. SORRY. THANK YOU. UM, SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY, VERY HARD WITH EDEN ON THIS CASE. IT IS A VERY SENSITIVE SITE. LIKE YOU SAID. THIS HAS BEEN POSED FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS. UM, AND, AND EDEN'S REALLY, REALLY VERY MUCH CONCERNED ABOUT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT GOING IN HERE. UM, AND, AND UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. SO THIS IS ALL THE THINGS THAT I'VE ALREADY SAID. UM, ADDITIONAL PARKING. WE HAVE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS, LIMITED NUMBER OF UNITS, UM, AND THE TYPE OF UNITS, EXTRA BUFFERING, PARK SPACE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATED. UM, AND, UM, I WILL DEFER THE REST OF MY TIME. I THINK I'VE TAKEN TOO MUCH ANYWAYS, BUT I WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. WEISLER. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT GIVEN, UH, THAT WE HAD SOME FLAGGING PARTICIPANTS? APPARENTLY EVERYTHING I HAVE LEFT IS FOR 1 0 5 VERY GOOD. WHICH IS AFTER THIS. ALL RIGHT. UM, THIS IS A DISTRICT 10 CASE. UH, COMMISSIONER WHITE, UNFORTUNATELY IS IN TRIAL AND WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND. UH, BUT COMMISSIONER BARTOS IS GOING TO HANDLE THIS CASE FOR HIM. QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER BARTOS, EMILY, WHO'S THE DEVELOPER OF THIS, UM, PROPOSED DEVELOPER. YES. SO THE DEVELOPERS, RAMSTON HOMES, UH, THEY HAVE SEVERAL PRODUCTS IN AND AROUND THE SAN ANTONIO AREA, INCLUDING IN DISTRICT 10 ALREADY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. IF, IF THERE IS ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS, I'M, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE PROJECT. I WAS BRIEF EARLY THIS MORNING, SO, UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BOTS, UH, QUESTIONS. COMMERS TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. ALRIGHT. UM, SEEING NO QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER BOTS TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION. UM, EMILY, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND I, UH, ALSO COMMEND THE DEVELOPERS WHO LEAVE A LOT OF GREEN SPACE AT BOTH ENDS. SO IT'S KIND OF NICE TO SEE GREEN AREAS WHEN, WHEN YOU GO INTO A NEW, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD OR IMPROVEMENT. UM, AT THIS TIME, I'M JUST GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE FOR APPROVAL, UM, AS PRESENTED TODAY. ITEM NUMBER 18, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO FOR APPROVAL. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS KAMATH FOR A SECOND. UH, DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. BRIEFLY. UH, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD, UH, ALTERNATIVE TO THE COMMERCIAL. THAT'S IT. ALRIGHT. THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 18 BY COMMISSIONER BARROS WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KAMATH. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER BARROWS? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER LIA HOLLAND? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR BUS. AYE. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. WE ARE NOW GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM 19, THE ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER 19 IS LOCATED AT [02:50:01] 9 3 1 8 JONES MALTSBERGER ROAD GOING FROM C THREE C THREE R AND O TWO TO MF 25 WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME. THERE WERE 20 NOTICES SENT OUT. ONE IN FAVOR. TWO OPPOSE WITHIN THE 200 FEET, TWO OPPOSE OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET AND NO RESPONSE IN WRITING FROM CROWN HILL. NA, THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSIDERED WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA WITH SURROUNDING PROPERTIES BEING PRIMARILY C ONE, C THREE, R FOUR, AND R FIVE ZONING DISTRICTS. THE PROPERTY BUTTS US HIGHWAY 2 81 NORTH AND IS LOCATED ON A SECONDARY ARTERIAL TYPE B, MAKING AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR HIGHER INTENSITY LAND USE AND HELPING TO MITIGATE POSSIBLE NEIGHBORHOOD ENCROACHMENT. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL IN THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE, PLEASE. UH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY, I'M BILL KAUFMAN, UM, 100 WEST HOUSTON STREET, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS, HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. I, UH, THIS IS A DOWN ZONING CASE. YOU'LL PROBABLY HEAR ME SAY THIS TWO OR THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE TIMES. UH, IT'S INTENSE AND WE'LL, UH, DEMONSTRATE THROUGH SOME OF THESE SLIDES. UH, REAGAN BOOTH, TRAMMEL CROW IS HERE. THERE'S A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE OWNER HERE. THIS IS JUST A GENERAL MAP OF THE AREA. YOU'RE FAMILIAR. IT'S ACROSS FROM THE AIRPORT ON 2 81. IT'S NEAR THE INTER, THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF FOUR 10 AND 2 81. UH, LET'S GO ON. HERE'S, UH, CROWN HILL, UH, WHO IS REPRESENTED TODAY BY TWO OF THEIR BOARD MEMBERS THAT WE'VE BEEN NEGOTIATING WITH SINCE SEPTEMBER. AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT REACHING OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS WE HAVE, WE'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW THEM VERY WELL AND THEY'RE VERY PASSIONATE AND SMART AND, UH, WE'RE EXCITED THEY'RE HERE AND HOPEFULLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS CASE. UM, YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY TO THE RIGHT OF CROWN HILL PARK. IT'S, UH, IT'S ALL INTENSE COMMERCIAL. YOU CAN SEE AROUND IT. CROWN HILL IS SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL. THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST INTENSE RETAIL SITES IN SAN ANTONIO BECAUSE IT'S SO DEEP. IT'S NOT JUST THE LONG FOUR 10, IT'S NOT JUST THE LONG 2 81. UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. HERE'S AN HERE I HAVE SEVERAL AREA AERIALS FOR YOUR REVIEW. UH, THE SITE IS VACANT. UH, THERE'S A SAWS WATER TOWER TO THE SOUTH, UH, AIRPORT TO THE, AGAIN TO THE EAST CROWN HILL TO THE WEST. NEXT SLIDE. THANK YOU. UH, THIS IS JUST A, A SHORT BULLETS OF WHAT IT IS. IT'S A LITTLE OVER 15 ACRES AS I MENTIONED. IT'S PRIMARILY C THREE IN THE SAN ANTONIO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT VICINITY PLAN. AND, UH, CURRENT FUTURE USE IS MIXED USE. THERE'S A LITTLE AERIAL FROM HIGHER UP AND YOU CAN SEE CROWN HILL SURROUNDED BY INTENSE COMMERCIAL ALONG FOUR 10. THE BEST BUY IS TO THE WEST. UH, TO THE NORTH IS THE ALAMO HEIGHTS AQUARIUM AND ALL THEIR TENNIS COURTS AND ACTIVITIES THERE. AND OF COURSE, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS THE VACANT PIECE TO THE RIGHT. ONE MORE ZONING MAP, UH, ILLUSTRATING THE ZONING FOR THE SITE. AND THEN, UM, UH, I DON'T NEED TO TELL Y'ALL WHAT C THREE ZONING IS, BUT THAT'S CURRENTLY WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS, UH, FACED WITH. I I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHO IS IN ATTENDANCE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK AGAINST IT, BUT IN OUR DISCUSSIONS IN LESS MONTHS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'VE MORPHED BEYOND WHAT THE ZONING IS AND MORE ABOUT TRAFFIC. SO, UH, BUT THIS IS CURRENTLY WHAT THE ZONING ALLOWS ON THIS SITE, ABUTTING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WE POINTED OUT IN OUR INITIAL MEETINGS IN OUR PRESENTATIONS IS, UM, THAT WITH THE EXISTING ZONING, WHICH IS COMMERCIAL, UH, P DAWSON GENERATED THESE PEAK HOUR TRIPS OF WHAT COULD BE DEVELOPED. AND YOU CAN SEE AT THE TOP THAT'S COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. OUR REQUEST IS MF 25, WHICH IS LESS INTENSE, AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN THAT IT STRIPS ARE FOUR OR FIVE TIMES LESS, UH, THAN IT WOULD BE IF IT WAS COMMERCIAL. AND WE THOUGHT THAT'D BE APPEALING TO MANY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO ALREADY HAS A SEVERE TRAFFIC PROBLEM. THESE ARE JUST SOME SLIDES OF SIMILAR PROJECT. IT'S A CLASS, A PROJECT OR WHAT WE WOULD CALL CLASS A. IT IS MARKET RATE, WE'VE BEEN ASKED MANY TIMES, BUT IT IS MARKET RATE, UH, APARTMENTS. AND THEN WE'LL GO ON, UH, ONE MORE TIME. IT'S APPROXIMATELY AS DRAWN 351 [02:55:01] UNITS. I THINK UNDER THE ZONING IT COULD GO TO 380 UNITS, THE REQUESTED ZONING, AND IT SHOWS THE UNIT MIX, UH, MOSTLY ONE BEDROOMS. UH, THIS IS REALLY GONNA SERVE, YOU KNOW, MANAGERS AT THE SHOPPING CENTERS, BANKERS, ASSISTANT MANAGER AT THE BANK, ALL THE DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT WANNA LIVE CLOSE TO WHERE THEY WORK. AND, UH, THIS IS JUST A, A PRODUCT THAT WOULD SERVE THEM. THIS IS A, AGAIN, ARTIST RENDITION OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. UM, 3, 6, 9, 13 BUILDINGS. UM, AND, UH, TO THE SOUTH OF THIS IS THE CROWN HILL AND YOU CAN SEE THE SAUCE TOWER TO THE RIGHT. UM, WE CAN GO ON ANOTHER PICTURE OF SOME AMENITIES IN SIMILAR TRAMMELL CROW PROJECTS. I THINK YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH TRAMMELL CROW. THIS IS THE RESIDENTIAL DIVISION. THEY'RE, THEY'RE BASED OUTTA HOUSTON, BUT THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF PROJECTS GOING IN SAN ANTONIO AND IT'S A FIRST CLASS QUALITY PROJECT, UH, FOR THAT AREA. AGAIN, SOME ELEVATIONS OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'LL SEE IF YOU NOTICE THE TOP LEFT PHOTO, THERE ARE NO BALCONIES. AND THAT'S REALLY DUAL PURPOSES. I'D LIKE TO TELL YOU IT'S BECAUSE OF NOISE. WHEN THERE'S A BALCONY, WHAT DO YOU HAVE WITH THE BALCONY? SLIDING DOORS. AND IT'S VERY HARD FOR NOISE, UH, TO DEAL WITH THAT. BUT THEY'VE SURVEYED IN OTHER MARKETS, UH, THEIR TENANTS AND THEY WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THE UNIT THAN OUTSIDE THE UNIT. THEY GET A LOT MORE USE OUT OF IT. SO THEY, ALL THEIR PRODUCTS ARE NOW GONNA BE WITHOUT ALCHEMIES. UH, MORE YOU SEE THE, UH, THE EXERCISE ROOM AND, UH, BUSINESS CENTER. YOU NOTICE THE MAILBOXES ARE INTERIOR. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PROBLEMS IN MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS ACROSS THE CITY WITH THEFT, PEOPLE BUSTING IN. UM, AND THIS IS A SECURITY MEASURE AND A CONVENIENCE TO THE RESIDENTS. ONE MORE, IT'S MORE SLIDES OF WASHER DRYERS IN THE UNITS. AS YOU CAN SEE, GRANITE COUNT GRANITE COUNTERTOPS, UH, NICE APPLIANCES. UH, THIS IS A, THIS IS ONE OF THE LAST SLIDES AND IT SHOWS YOU THE GREEN ASPECT AND THE SOUND ATTENUATION ASPECT. UM, WITH FROM L E D LIGHTING TO THE TYPE OF LANDSCAPING TO ENERGY RATED WINDOWS. YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING, I WAS THINKING BACK FIVE YEARS AGO, DEVELOPERS WOULD'VE TOLD YOU WHAT, TOO EXPENSIVE. NOW EVERYBODY'S DOING IT. AND, UH, WHICH IS GOOD TO SEE. YOU SEE IT ON THE SOUND ATTENUATION. IT'S ON THE CORNER OF 2 81 AND FOUR 10 AND THE AIRPORT IS ACROSS THE 2 81. BUT PLANES DO NOT FLY OVER THE SITE. UH, WE'VE MET WITH THE AIRPORT. THEY SENT AN EMAIL OUT TO STAFF AND TO US THAT THEY'RE NOT OPPOSING THE CASE AND THEY WOULDN'T BE HERE. I THINK THEY CALL IT BEING NEUTRAL. UH, THEY WOULD PREFER NOTHING BE DEVELOPED NEAR THE AIRPORT, BUT, UH, WE HAD A VERY POSITIVE MEETING WITH THEM. UH, YOU NOTICE ALSO THAT THEY'RE PUTTING DOUBLE LAYERS OF DRYWALL ON THE EXTERIOR FOR SOUND, DOUBLE LAYER OF SOUND MATS FOR FLOORING SO YOU DON'T HEAR YOUR NEIGHBORS ABOVE AND BELOW. AND AGAIN, THE, UH, HIGH S T C RATING FOR THE WINDOWS. UH, AND I THINK THE NEXT SLIDE IS THIS. SO LET ME, LET ME JUST SAY, LET ME CONCLUDE WITH THE FOLLOWING REMARKS. WE'VE HAD VERY INFORMATIVE AND PRODUCTIVE MEETINGS WITH CROWN HILL PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. LITERALLY STARTED EXCHANGING INFORMATION IN SEPTEMBER. WE HAD A PUBLIC MEETING, WE HAD A MEETING WITH THEIR BOARD. WE'VE HAD SUBSEQUENT MEETINGS WITH, UH, KELLY WALLS AND PETER LUND WHO ARE HERE. AND, UH, THEY WERE THE SPEARHEAD OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE DEALT WITH ON A PRETTY MUCH A DAILY BASIS. AND WE'VE REACHED AN AGREEMENT AND CONCEPT AND WE'RE GONNA PLEDGE TO GET IT FINALIZED AND DOCUMENTED BEFORE CITY COUNCIL. THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT AND WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. WE'VE HAD LOOKED EACH OTHER IN THE EYES AND A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TRUST AND GOODWILL'S BEEN GENERATED AND FORTUNATELY AND, UH, AND WE'RE HAPPY THAT'S, THAT'S THERE. SO WE HAVE H O A SUPPORT, WE HAVE CITY STAFF SUPPORT, WE HAVE AIR AIRPORT SUPPORT, STAFF SUPPORT, AND WE'D LIKE YOUR CONSIDERATION TO APPROVE OUR ZONING REQUEST. MF 25. WITH THAT, [03:00:01] I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR WAIT TILL THE END. THANK YOU MR. KAUFMAN. YOU WILL HAVE, UH, A SHORT REBUTTAL, UH, IN ABOUT AN HOUR, I ANTICIPATE. UM, ALRIGHT. PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE. YES, SIR. AND I'LL JUST PREFACE THIS BY, I DID, UM, GO THROUGH THE LIST OF VOICEMAILS AND ANYONE THAT'S HERE IN ATTENDANCE HAS BEEN SCRATCHED FROM THAT LIST. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. SO THERESA PENA, FOLLOWED BY NANCY PESH, 23 BEFORE MS. PENA. THANK YOU. HI, I AM THERESA PENA. I LIVE AT 4 0 2 DOWN SHIRE 7 8 2 1 6. I'M GONNA ALLOCATE MY MINUTES TO PETER. OKAY. I'M SORRY. TO WHOM? TO PETER. TO PETER. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. MS. PENA. NANCY PECHE, FOLLOWED BY KELLY WALLS. OKAY, THANK YOU MS. PACHE. KELLY WALLS, I ALLOCATE NINE MINUTES. OKAY. MS. WALLS ALLOCATES TO PETER. SO THAT'S THE MAXIMUM FOR PETER. THAT'S NINE MINUTES CORRECT. IS THIS JACQUELINE ARNOLD, MS. ARNOLD, MS. ARNOLD, IF YOU'D INTRODUCE YOURSELF, GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND GIVE US YOUR OPINION OF THE PROJECT PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME'S JACQUELINE ARNOLD. UM, I RESIDE AT 7 2 0 TRAFALGAR. MY HUSBAND AND I ALSO OWN THE ADJACENT UNIT, 7 1 8 TRAFALGAR. UM, WE ARE ACTUALLY RECENT RESIDENCE TO THE AREA AND WE CHOSE CROWN HILL BECAUSE OF THE SAFETY. IT WILL PROVIDE OUR 16 MONTH OLD AND OUR SIX MONTH OLD, UM, AS WE RAISE 'EM THROUGHOUT THE YEARS AS WELL AS THE EXCELLENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AND EVERYTHING ELSE. UM, MY MAIN CONCERN WITH THIS REZONING PROJECT IS NOT NECESSARILY IN THE PROJECT IT ITSELF, BUT IN THE POSITION OF THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE FOR THE PROJECT ON THE SLOW STRETCH, UH, EXCUSE ME, SLOW STRETCH OF JONES MALTSBERGER. UM, THIS STRETCH SPECIFICALLY GOES BETWEEN 2 81 AND FOUR 10. IT'S USED AS AN ACCESS ROAD FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES, A SHORTCUT BETWEEN THE TWO HIGHWAYS. UM, I HAVE NOT SEEN HOW THIS IS GONNA BE ADDRESSED, UM, WHEN THIS RESIDENTIAL UNIT IS BUILT. UM, I KNOW IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THE REZONING COULD, UM, DECREASE THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF TRIPS. HOWEVER, MORE THAN LIKELY IF A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY WAS BUILT HERE, IT WOULD HAVE A PRIMARY ENTRANCE ON THE HIGHWAY, NOT ON THIS STRETCH OF JONES MALTSBERGER. UM, ADDITIONALLY, MY CONCERN IS ALSO FOR THE SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN WHO LIVE IN THESE NEIGHBORING STREETS ON JONES MALTSBERGER. SO THERE'S AN NATATORIUM THAT INTERSECTS BETWEEN JONES MALTSBERGER AND ALGER. UM, THEY HAVE SWIM MEETS FOR THE ENTIRE REGION THERE. BUSES ARE CONSTANTLY DROPPING OFF CHILDREN ON THE STREET. UM, THIS STRETCH OF JONES MALTSBERGER, SO MY HUSBAND AND I MOVED IN MARCH, MID-MARCH. WE'VE ALREADY SEEN FOUR ACCIDENTS FROM PEOPLE TAKING THE CURVE OF JOAN MOSSBERG TO SHARPLY AND CRASHING INTO THE MEDIAN THAT PROTECTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD. POTENTIALLY IF, UM, THIS PRIMARY ENTRANCE WAS PLACED ON JEN SALZBERGER, THAT MEDIAN WOULD BE REMOVED AND WOULD NO LONGER PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THIS, WOULD NO LONGER PROTECT THE NATATORIUM OR THE SCHOOL THAT IS IMMEDIATELY, UM, ADJACENT TO THE NATATORIUM. UM, SO REALLY THOSE ARE MY MAIN CONCERNS. IT'S AGAIN, NOT THE PROJECT ITSELF, BUT THAT PRIMARY ENTRANCE BEING ON JONES MALTSBERGER AND NOT ON 2 81. UM, OH, AND I DID WANNA MENTION THERE IS A FIRE STATION RIGHT ACROSS FROM FOUR 10. UH, THE S A F D NUMBER 17, THEY USE THAT AS THE PRIMARY, UM, MOVEMENT FROM THEIR FIRE STATION OVER TO 2 81 FROM FOUR 10 AND WITHOUT LIKE IF THERE'S INCREASED TRAFFIC THERE, THAT COULD POTENTIALLY OCCLUDE THEIR ABILITY TO GET TO EMERGENCIES THROUGH THAT ROUTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. ARNOLD. IVAN RUB LCLC, FOLLOWED BY PATRICIA LOZANO. GOOD AFTERNOON, MEMBERS OF THE ZONING COMMISSION. MY NAME IS IVAN AVA. I'M A FIRST GENERATION LATINO FROM SAN ANTONIO AND MY WIFE AND I RECENTLY PURCHASED OUR FIRST HOME IN THE CROWN HILL PARK NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE 9 3 1 8 JONES MOSSBURG PROPERTY LINE. AFTER MOVING TO OUR HOUSE ON 7 1 8 ALGER, WE HAVE HAD, WE HAVE HAD THE GREAT PLEASURE OF WALKING OUR TWO YOUNG DAUGHTERS IN THEIR STROLLER THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, STREETS EVERY [03:05:01] DAY AFTER WORK. HOWEVER, SINCE MOVING HERE IN MARCH, 2022, WE HAVE NOTICED HIGH LEVELS OF NON-RESIDENT THROUGH TRAFFIC BY DRIVERS CUTTING THROUGH CUTTING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM HIGHWAY FOUR 10 AND 2 81. ADDITIONALLY, THERE ARE FREQUENTLY LARGE NUMBERS OF VISITORS TO THE ALAMO HEIGHTS AND AUDITORIUM THAT SPILL ONTO OUR STREETS. THESE VISITORS PARK ON EITHER SIDE OF MAYAN NEIGHBORING BLOCKS, CAUSING MY FAMILY PRACTICALLY TO WALK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ALREADY BUSY STREET. FURTHER ARE DRIVEWAYS UNIQUELY ACCESSED BY THE JONES BERGER ROAD RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH IS MOST CONGESTED BY NON-RESIDENT TRAFFIC AND AUDITORIUM VISITORS. THOUGH WE HAVE ONLY LIVED HERE FOR A FEW SHORT MONTHS, IT HAS BECOME APPARENT THAT THE REZONING OF 9 3 1 8 JONES MOSSBERG PROPERTY AND RESULTING MF 25 APARTMENT BUILDING WILL REDUCE THE WELFARE OF MY FAMILY AND THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH INCREASED VEHICULAR TRAFFIC AND NOISE POLLUTION. IN MAY OF 2010, FORMER MAYOR JULIAN CASTRO PASSED THE SAN ANTONIO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT VICINITY LAND USE PLAN, WHICH IDENTIFIED THE PREFERRED DEVELOPMENT OF THE AREA SURROUNDING THE AIRPORT. THE PRIMARY GOAL OF THE LAND USE PLAN WAS TO PROTECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF RESIDENTS INCLUDING HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE. THE ADDITION OF NEW APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL CERTAINLY COMPROMISE OUR HEALTH BY INCREASING EXTERNAL NOISE POLLUTION THAT IS AUDIBLE WITHIN THE INTERIOR OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE MF 25 HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL APARTMENT IS ALREADY LISTED AS AN INCOMPATIBLE USAGE WITHIN AIRPORT NOISE CONTOURS. FURTHER, THE ADDITION OF HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL APARTMENTS WILL COMPOUND THE EXISTING TRAFFIC PROBLEM FURTHER PLACING THE LIVES OF LIVES AND SAFETY OF WOMEN, CHILDREN, ELDERLY RESIDENTS, AND OTHERS WHO USE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS FOR OUTDOOR EXERCISE AT HEIGHTENED RISK. THE PROPOSED REZONING IS EVEN IN CONFLICT WITH THE SECOND GOAL OF THE AIRPORT VICINITY, LAND USE PLAN OF AN ENCOURAGING ECONOMIC GROWTH BY SERVING THE NEEDS OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND AIRPORT PATRONS. THE 2010 PLANS STRICTLY RECOMMENDS COMMERCIAL LAND DEVELOPMENT, UPGRADING AND ENHANCING AIR FRONT COMMERCIAL AND BUSINESS PARK PROPERTY AND REDEVELOPING MAJOR COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS TO REZONE 9 3 1 8 JONES MOSSBERG FROM COMMERCIAL TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS IN STARK OPPOSITION TO WHAT WAS STRATEGICALLY OUTLINED BY CITY PLANNERS. WITH THAT, I ASKED THE MEMBERS OF THE ZONING COMMISSION TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR INVALUABLE ROLE AS STEWARDS OF THE CITIZENS OF SAN ANTONIO. AND AS CUSTODIANS OF THE EFFORT PUT FORTH BY PREVIOUS LEADERS WHO HAVE SOUGHT TO DESIGN A CITY THAT IS MORE THAN A PLACE TO LIVE, BUT A PLACE TO THRIVE. I REQUEST THAT THE ZONING COMMISSION ADVISE THE CITY COUNCILMEN AND WOMEN OF MY DISAPPROVAL OF THE REZONING OF 9 3 1 8 JONES MOSSBERG ROAD. AND FURTHERMORE, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT, UH, THE CROWN HILL PARK NEIGHBORHOOD HAS ALREADY TAKEN A POLL AND THE, UM, I THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, UH, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT OR PETER WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT FACT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. PATRICIA LAZANO, FOLLOWED BY PATTY GIBBONS. HI, I AM PATRICIA LOZANO. I LIVE AT SEVEN 15 COLON PASS. UM, I'M HERE AS A MOTHER OF THREE DRIVING, UH, YOUNG ADULTS AND A SOON TO BE FOURTH DRIVER NEXT YEAR. UM, OUR TRAFFIC ISSUES ON JONES MALTSBERGER HAVE BEEN A REAL PROBLEM GETTING OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, THE MAIN STREETS ALL FEED OUT TO JONES MALTSBERGER. UM, WE HAVE AN UPCOMING ISSUE WITH TXDOT, UM, WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO BE MITIGATING, UM, SOME ISSUES WITH FOUR 10 AND 2 81 EXCHANGE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS CLOSING THE MCCULLOUGH BRIDGE TO US, WHICH MEANS ALL OF OUR TRAFFIC HAS TO GO OUT JONES MALTSBERGER, INCLUDING BUSES, INCLUDING NATATORIUM, UH, TRAFFIC. UM, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ALREADY. UM, WE'VE HAD PLENTY OF PEOPLE REAR-ENDED TRYING TO TURN LEFT INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, SO TO ME THE THOUGHT OF MY TEENAGE CHILDREN TRYING TO GET OUT WITH A NEW RESIDENCE AREA, UH, WITH MORE CARS COMING THROUGH, UM, IS, IS TO ME UNTIL WE HAVE MITIGATED THE ISSUES WITH JONES MALTSBERGER, IT SHOULDN'T BE DONE. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX PER SE, EXCEPT THAT I'M SORRY. LOOKING YOU IN THE EYE AND SAYING WE'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, I THINK WE NEED TO PUT THIS VOTE OFF. UM, UNTIL THERE IS REAL ISSUES ADDRESSED WITH THAT TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC LIGHTS, WIDENING, STRIPING, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO SAY YES, THEY'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING. BECAUSE I WAS IN ON SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS AND THE DEVELOPER SAID THEY WOULD NOT SPEND ANY MONEY ON JONES MALTSBERGER. THE CITY HAS PUSHED US OFF TO THE NEXT BOND ISSUE, WHICH COULD BE A SEVEN YEAR WAIT. UM, TDOT IS STARTING SOONER THAN SEVEN YEARS, SO WE ARE GONNA BE LOOKING AT MAJOR TRAFFIC ISSUES, UM, AND [03:10:01] NO HELP FROM ANYONE IF WE, IF WE DON'T GET HELP FROM YOU. SO I'M ASKING AS A MOTHER OF DRIVING TEENS WHO ARE GONNA BE OUT THERE TRYING TO CROSS THE ROAD TO PLEASE CONSIDER MAKING THEM WAIT UNTIL REAL HARD DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE ON JONES MOSPER IN WRITING THE FUNDING FOUND TO FIX IT BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE GOES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU MS. LOZANO. PATTY GIBBONS, FOLLOWED BY PETER LUND. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL. THANK YOU. UH, MY NAME IS PATTY GIBBONS. UM, IT'S DIFFERENT ON THIS SIDE. UH, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF GR OF GREATER HARMONY HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. WE'RE ONE MILE FROM THE SITE. UM, I LEARNED ABOUT THE SITE FROM CROWN HILL JUST A FEW WEEKS BACK. WENT ON VACATION, THEN RE PICKED IT UP. I HAVE, WE ARE GOING TO ASK THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER PUTTING THIS ON A CONTINUANCE. UM, LIKE YOU SAID, UH, EARLY ON THE NEIGHBORHOODS, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE IT A PART IN THE DISCUSSION. WE'VE HAD NO PART IN THIS DISCUSSION. IT, WE ARE ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE CROWN HILL, 60 YEARS OLD. THESE LARGE IMPACTFUL DEVELOPMENTS HAVE A VERY BIG IMPACT ON NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE OLD LIKE OURS AND LIKE OURS. WE'RE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. WE'RE NOT HOAS. WE DON'T COLLECT FEES OTHER THAN WHAT VOLUNTEERS GIVE US. SO WE HAVE TO WORK A LITTLE BIT HARDER. SO WHEN IMPACTS AS BIG AS THIS, AND NO DOUBT TRAMMELL CROW BUILDS A BEAUTIFUL DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT US AND WE NEED A LITTLE MORE TIME TO DO THAT. I'M NOT SAYING I'M FORWARD OR AGAINST IT, BUT I AM SAYING WE NEED MORE TIME FOR GREATER HARMONY HILLS TO ASSIST NOT ONLY CROWN HILL, BUT SURE HILLS. THOSE ARE THE THREE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT'LL BE, HAVE SOME IMPACT FROM THIS. CERTAINLY CROWN HILL WILL HAVE THE GREATEST IMPACT, AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO HAVE A LITTLE LENGTHIER CONVERSATION. I WOULD REQUEST, AND I DID TALK TO, UM, COMMISSIONER BARROWS THAT WE HAVE MAYBE SOME TYPE OF CONTINUANCE SO THAT THE THREE OF US, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS COULD GET TOGETHER, HAVE A LITTLE LENGTHIER DISCUSSION, GO THROUGH SOME OF THE IMPACTS AND IMAGES THAT THEY FORESEE, AND HOW DO WE WORK AROUND THAT NOW WE'RE NOT 60 YEARS OLD JUST BECAUSE WE CAN'T HANDLE IT. WE CAN HANDLE IT. WE JUST WANNA BE PART OF THAT DISCUSSION SO WE CAN MOVE INTO THAT NEW PHASE IN AN EASIER WAY. SO I'M, I'M JUST ASKING FOR THAT CONTINUANCE OF TWO OR FOUR WEEKS. I KNOW THE DEVELOPER BEHIND ME IS, IS TAP TAPPING HIS FOOT REALLY HARD BECAUSE THEY WORK HARD. THEY SPEND A LOT OF MONEY. I GET ALL OF THAT. I'M IN THE DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS, BUT I'M ALSO IN THE BUSINESS OF PROTECTING HOMES LIKE THE DE LIKE THE NEIGHBORS THAT JUST CAME UP HERE. SO I'M HOPING MAYBE COMMISSIONER BARROS WOULD JUST GIVE US MAYBE TWO OR FOUR WE CON CONTINUE SO WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION A LITTLE BIT LONGER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU PETER LUND FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES AND FOLLOWED BY ANTONIO LOZANO. ALRIGHT, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, MY NAME'S PETER LUND. I LIVE AT 3 0 6 MARQUEE LANE AND I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE CROWN HILL PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. UM, WE DIDN'T RECEIVE A NOTICE ON THIS, SO I NEED TO CATCH YOU TO MAKE SURE YOU'VE GOT OUR CORRECT MAILING ADDRESS. UM, IT MAY HAVE CHANGED RECENTLY. UM, I THOUGHT THE COMMISSIONERS MIGHT APPRECIATE A BRIEF, UH, HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE AND ALSO AN UPDATE ON HOW THE ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN NEGOTIATING WITH THE DEVELOPER. UM, OOPS. AND I FORGOT TO GIVE YOU MY SLIDES. UH, THERE'S, UH, BOTH A P D F AND A POWERPOINT IN THERE. YOU CAN CHOOSE EITHER ONE. UM, I'M HERE TODAY WITH, UH, SEVERAL BOARD MEMBERS INCLUDING, UM, KELLY REED WALLS, WHO'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION, AND WE'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE. OH, YEAH, SORRY. THAT'S MY FAULT. UM, I'LL, IF YOU GO TO THE SECOND SLIDE, UM, WHAT I, UH, WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS IS THAT WE HAVE ABOUT 300 RESIDENTS AND, UM, WE'RE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, AS YOU KNOW. UM, THE REZONING, UH, FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GATHERED FROM OUR RESIDENTS, UH, THAT YOU'RE GONNA HEAR TODAY REFLECTS FROM, UH, OVER HALF OF OUR HOUSEHOLDS. UM, MOST OF THE RESIDENTS THAT YOU SEE IN THE YELLOW AREA, THAT'S THE, UH, RESIDENTIAL AREA OF CROWN HILL PARK. THAT'S DISTRICT ONE. UM, THE, UH, SITE THERE, THE, UH, IN THE RED, THAT IS GOING TO BE THE, UH, COMPLEX THAT IS, UH, ACTUALLY D NINE. BUT AFTER REDISTRICTING, THAT'S GOING TO BECOME, UH, PART OF D ONE. UM, IT'S SLATED TO DO THAT. UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, OF COURSE, DOESN'T SPEAK FOR EVERY RESIDENT, BUT WE DO ACTIVELY ENGAGE EVERYONE AND WE LISTEN TO THEIR FEEDBACK AND INCORPORATE IT. [03:15:01] RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND THAT THE GREEN SPACE THAT, UH, IS CURRENTLY DOWN THE STREET, UM, IS, UH, NOT GOING TO LAST FOREVER. UM, AND THAT AN UNDESIRABLE C THREE DEVELOPMENT COULD BE BUILT, UM, UM, A HOTEL WOULD BE MOST LIKELY. WE HAVE SEVERAL NEARBY, UM, A HOTEL SIZE FOR THOSE 15 ACRES WOULD GENERATE THE SIMILAR, UH, TRAFFIC LEVELS THAT THE COMPLEX WOULD, HOWEVER, THE COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE LESS, UH, CONTROL. SO ON THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, AS MY NEIGHBOR, MS. LAZANO EXPLAINED, OUR COMMUNITY IS, UH, QUITE SEQUESTERED. YOU CAN ONLY REACH US THROUGH MCCULLOUGH AND JONES MALTSBERGER, BUT BOTH OF THOSE ROADWAYS ARE FACING SEVERAL SIGNIFICANT, UH, GROWTH CHALLENGES. UM, IN PARTICULAR, UM, THE, UH, WELL, MY POINTER'S NOT GONNA SHINE THAT, THAT WELL. UM, JUST BELOW THE RED, UH, ARROW ON YOUR LEFT. OH, THANKS. I DIDN'T KNOW YOU HAD ONE OF THOSE, UH, RIGHT HERE. UM, THAT BRIDGE, UH, IS THE ONE THAT SHE REFERENCED. UH, OUR ACCESS TO THAT BRIDGE THAT SERVES ONE OF THE TWO ROADWAYS SERVING OUR COMMUNITY IS GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY CURTAILED WHEN TXDOT FINISHES THE RENOVATIONS TO FOUR 10. AND THAT MEANS THAT, UH, ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO START, UH, COMING THROUGH THE, UH, THE JONES MALTSBERGER TO THE RIGHT AND TO THE EAST, AND THAT ROADWAY IS GOING TO BECOME THE PRIMARY ENTRANCEWAY FOR THE COMMUNITY. JONES MALTSBERGER IS ON THE NEXT SLIDE. AS YOU CAN SEE, A SIMPLE TWO LANE ROADWAY. UH, IT HAS NO TURN LANES. UH, IT HAS NO STOPLIGHTS THAT ALIGN WITH CROWN HILL PARKS ADJOINING STREETS. SO THEREFORE, WITH OUR, UH, RESIDENTS, AS YOU'VE HEARD, AND YOU'LL PROBABLY CONTINUE TO HEAR, ENTRANCE SAFETY IS A TOP CONCERN. UM, CONGESTION IS GETTING WORSE THAN JONES MALTSBERGER IN THIS STRETCH, PARTICULARLY AT THE NORTH END, UH, NEAR, UH, RAMSEY, AND 2 81 IS SHOWN ON THE RIGHT IMAGE. ANYBODY WHO'S BEEN THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION, UH, DURING, UH, RUSH HOUR, KNOWS DARN WELL THAT IT IS VERY UNPLEASANT. AND, UH, THE, UH, NATATORIUM THAT, UH, UH, WAS REFERENCED EARLIER IS LOCATED, UH, JUST NEAR THAT INTERSECTION. IT IS, UH, GENERATED, UH, FLUCTUATIONS IN TRAFFIC AND MAKING A TOUGH SITUATION WORSE. UM, THAT STRETCH OF JONES MALTSBERGER TO THE NORTH ALSO FEEDS A LOT OF DIVERTED TRAFFIC INTO CROWN HILL PARK. AS YOU'VE HEARD, UM, THOSE FOLKS ARE COMING OFF OF THE HIGHWAY AND THE, UH, FRONTAGE ROADS. UM, WHEN THOSE GET BACKED UP, WE SEE TRAFFIC CUTTING THROUGH OUR RESIDENTIAL STREETS, MAKING ITS WAY WESTBOUND, PRIMARILY, UH, TRYING TO GET BACK ONTO THE, UH, HIGHWAY. UM, THE, UH, ISSUE IS QUITE SERIOUS. WE'VE HAD A CHILD KILLED, UH, BY A MOTORIST. UH, WE'VE HAD ONE HOME THAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN STRUCK TWICE BY RECKLESS DRIVERS IN LESS THAN A YEAR. UM, SO, UH, NEEDLESS TO SAY, TRAMMELL CROW'S PROPOSAL WAS, UM, AWKWARD TIMING. UM, AND WE GOT OFF TO, I THINK WHAT EVERYONE WOULD AGREE WOULD BE A ROUGH START. OUR CONSTITUENTS HAD CONCERNS WITH THE PROPOSAL IN PARTICULAR, UM, THE IDEA THAT 490 VEHICLES COULD BE ADDED TO AN OVERBURDENED UNPREPARED JONES MALTSBERGER, THAT WE'D HAVE 490 MORE FRUSTRATED DRIVERS SHORT CUTTING ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS. AND THERE WAS, FRANKLY, SOME SKEPTICISM THAT THE SITE WAS EVEN SUITABLE FOR QUALITY RESIDENTIAL HOUSING. UM, THIS CLASS, A COMPLEX FAILED TO ATTRACT THE INTENDED TENANTS. IT COULD EVENTUALLY BECOME JUST ANOTHER LARGE AIRPORT AREA HOUSING COMPLEX WITH A CRIME PROBLEM. AND WE HAVE, UH, PLENTY OF THOSE NEARBY ALREADY. SO WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF DISTRICT STAFF, UM, NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER LED TO SOME COMMITMENTS THAT BOTH PARTIES HAVE AGREED TO MEMORIALIZE, AND THAT'S GOT US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. UM, THIS WAS A DISCUSSION THAT MS. UH, MR. BURROWS AND MS. GREATHOUSE, UH, UH, PARTICIPATED IN LAST MONTH. AND THEY'LL BE GLAD TO KNOW THAT WE'VE MADE SOME PROGRESS. I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A FEW HIGHLIGHTS TODAY. UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO AGREEMENTS. UH, THE FIRST WOULD BE A DEEDED RESTRICTION, UM, THAT THE COMPLEX WILL ADDRESS THAT ISSUE REGARDING, UM, UH, A QUALITY CLASS, A PROPERTY, AS THE DEVELOPER REFERS TO IT. UM, SO IT WILL ONLY OFFER MARKET RATE HOUSING. UH, IT WILL ALSO PROHIBIT ACCEPTANCE OF PUBLIC FUNDS, UH, AS DESCRIBED IN THE ORDINANCE PASSED IN SAN ANTONIO LAST YEAR. UM, AND WE WILL HAVE A SEPARATE AGREEMENT TO CATCH SOME OF THE SOFTWARE ISSUES, PARTICULARLY AROUND LOBBYING FOR ROADWAY UPGRADES THAT THE DEVELOPER MAY NOT BE REQUIRED TO FUND IN ITS T I A, UH, LAND THAT WILL EVENTUALLY BE NEEDED FOR THE ROADWAYS EXPANSION, WHICH WE HOPE WILL COME ONE DAY SOON, UH, WILL COME FROM THE COMPLEX AND NOT FROM THE COMMUNITY. UH, AS THE, UH, LADY, UH, WHO SPOKE EARLIER HAD MENTIONED, WE DO HAVE SOME BARRIERS BETWEEN US AND JONES MALTSBERGER. WE'D LIKE TO RETAIN THAT GREEN BARRIER FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. AND WE ALSO ARE GETTING A COMMITMENT FROM THE DEVELOPER FOR GOOD FAITH EXPLORATION OF AN ENTRANCE THAT WOULD ADJOIN THE 2 81 ACCESS ROAD, WHICH IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. UM, [03:20:01] THAT PROPERTY, UH, THE DEEDS, UH, FOR THIS PROPERTY, UH, DO HAVE EGRESS RIGHTS TO THE ACCESS ROAD. WE'VE SUGGESTED SOME OPTIONS, IN PARTICULAR, UH, TO THE DEVELOPER TO EXPLORE. SOME WERE LESS COSTLY THAN OTHERS. UM, ONE DOESN'T ACTUALLY REQUIRE A BRIDGE AT ALL. AND, UM, WE'RE, UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING THEIR, UH, RESPONSE TO, UH, SEEING IF WE CAN, UH, TRY AND KEEP, UH, SOME OF THE TENANT TRAFFIC OFF. THE PROBLEMS IT HAS AREN'T GOING TO BE REMEDIED ANYTIME TOO SOON. UM, THE STRAW POLL AMONG OUR MEMBERSHIP HAS FOUND THAT, UM, ONCE OUR MEMBERS ARE AWARE OF, UH, THE CONDITIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE FORMALIZING, WE DO GET, UH, SOME SOLID SUPPORT FOR THE REZONING. UM, AGAIN, UM, WE HAVE THAT AGREEMENT. IN PRINCIPLE, WE'RE OPTIMISTIC THAT THE DOCUMENTS CAN BE FINALIZED BEFORE WE GO TO COUNSEL FOR A VOTE. AGAIN, WE CAN'T SPEAK FOR EVERY HOUSEHOLD, BUT WE FOUND THAT MOST RESIDENTS ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THE COMPLEX ONCE THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S COMING AND WHAT WE'RE BEING ABLE, WHAT'S BEING PUT IN PLACE, UM, LINGERING CONCERNS, UH, THAT, UH, I THINK WE GENERALLY HEAR STEM FROM PUBLIC WORKS, UH, NOT HAVING A FUNDING STRATEGY, UM, TO FINALLY IMPROVE JONES MALZBERG. THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT IT LITERALLY FOR THREE DECADES. UH, THERE WAS A 20 YEAR PLAN TO WIDEN JONES MALZBERG 30 YEARS AGO, AND WE'RE STILL HERE TODAY LOOKING FOR THAT, FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. UH, RAZZI ACTUALLY DECLINED TO PUT THE PRICE TAG HE CAME UP WITH, WHICH WAS $9 MILLION TO WIDEN JONES MALZBERG IN THIS STRETCH. I THINK IT'S ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE, UM, TO FOUR LANES. UH, IT DIDN'T END UP ON THE BOND. UH, HE INDI INDICATED THAT PERHAPS THE, THAT PERHAPS THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE PROVIDING A LOT OF THIS FUNDING. BUT I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE ARE LEGAL LIMITATIONS ON THAT STRATEGY. OUR RESIDENTS ARE ANXIOUS THAT THE CITY LEADERS HAVEN'T CLARIFIED WHERE THE BALANCE OF THE MONEY'S GOING TO COME FROM TO MAKE THEM, UH, THE UPGRADES. SO WHAT I WANT THE COMMISSIONERS AND UNDERSTAND IS THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE BEING ASKED TO TAKE A BIT OF A LEAP OF FAITH TODAY THAT, UH, SUFFICIENT ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS WILL COINCIDE WITH THE DEVELOPMENTS OPENING. UM, THAT'S IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MR. LUND. UH, MR. LOZANO AND MS. FLORES. TELL ME IF I'M WRONG ON THIS, BUT MR. LOZANO IS NEXT. YES, YES. GOOD. COME ON UP. GOOD AFTERNOON. UM, COUNCILMAN MR. MANTE AND COUNCILMAN COUNCILWOMAN? UH, MY NAME IS ANTONIO LOZANO AND I LIVE AT SEVEN 15 COHEN PASS. UH, WHAT I SAY WILL BE VERY BRIEF, NOTHING COMPARED TO WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID, UM, BUT, UH, TO ME, VERY IMPORTANT. UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO, WELL, IF YOU REZONE AND ALLOW THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT TO BE BUILT, THE LAND WILL BE STRIPPED OF MANY, MANY TREES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE ME AND BEFORE YOU AND BEFORE THEM. THEY ARE NATIVE TO TEXAS AND CAN STAY ALIVE THROUGH FREEZES THAT WE'VE HAD AND OUR HEAT. THIS HAS BEEN OUR HOTTEST MAY ON RECORD BECAUSE BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THE CLIMATE IS CHANGING EXPONENTIALLY VERY FAST. TO REZONE AND STRIP THE LAND OF THESE NATIVES IS A SINFUL IDEA, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE PROPERTY INSIDE THE LOOP, WHICH THEY DON'T SHOW ON THE MAPS. BUT INSIDE THE LOOP, THERE'S ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY ABOUT ONE THIRD OF THE SIZE OF WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR THAT THEY COULD BUILD THEIR PROPERTY ON. AND MAYBE INSTEAD OF TWO STORIES, MAKE IT SIX STORIES, AND THEY COULD HAVE ALL THE FUN, ALL THE SAME AMOUNT OF UNITS THAT THEY WANT. THE NICE THING ABOUT THIS PROPERTY IS IT'S ALREADY CLEARED. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DESTROY ANY OF THE TREES THAT ARE ALREADY THE, THAT ARE. THE OTHER ONE THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS, IF YOU LOOK AT HOUSTON, IT'S A CITY OF CONCRETE. ON THE OTHER HAND, SAN ANTONIO HAS MANY, MANY GREEN SPACES AND PARKS. LET US NOT ADD TO THE CHANGING CLIMATE NEGATIVELY BY ALLOWING US TO REZONE AND ALLOWING US TO PASS. PLEASE KEEP SAN ANTONIO BEAUTIFUL. SO I SAY NO TO REZONE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THIS OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU MR. LONO. AND NOW VOICEMAILS. ALRIGHT. AND BEFORE WE START PLAYING THE VOICEMAILS, THE TIME IS 4 34 AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS LEAVING THE MEETING, UH, [03:25:02] AND WILL NOT RETURN TO THIS MEETING. SHE'LL COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION. YEAH, WE'LL SEE. ALRIGHT, THE VOICEMAILS PLEASE. HI, MY NAME IS AMANDA LOZANO. MY ADDRESS IS SEVEN 15 COLE WIND PASS, AND THE CASE NUMBER IS 1 0 5. UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT WITH THE BUILDING OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX ACROSS THE STREET, IF THAT DOES HAPPEN, WHICH I PREFER, MY WHOLE FAMILY IS REALLY SCARED ABOUT IT. BUT, UM, IF IT DOES HAPPEN, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE MAKE IT TO WHERE JONES MALTSBERGER IS SAFE FOR THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD. BECAUSE WITH THE EXIT ON MCCULLOUGH BEING CLOSED, IT'S GONNA CHANGE OUR LIFE MAJOR AND HAVING ALL THOSE NEW PEOPLE, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE, UH, FRIGHTENING. BUT WE'RE, I MEAN, WE, WE WILL HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT. BUT PLEASE CONSIDER MAKING JONES MONBERGER SAFE FOR US. THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME IS ANDREW LOZANO. MY ADDRESS IS SEVEN 15 COLE WIND PASS. UM, CASE NUMBER 1 0 5, UM, ZONING COMMITTEES, COMM COMMITTEES NEEDS TO ADDRESS TRAFFIC ISSUES IN ZONE MULTIPLES BEING ALLOWING BEFORE ALLOWING MORE RESIDENTS FOR THE NEW APARTMENT COMPLEX. TECHSTAR WILL ALSO INCREASE TRAFFIC WHEN CONSTRUCTION STARTS. IF TEXAR CLOSES MCCULLOUGH, WE WILL, WE WILL HAVE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOODS TRYING TO ENTER AND EXIT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. I RIDE THE SCHOOL BUS AND WITH ALL OF THE, ALL OF THE DANGEROUS FOR NOT ONLY ME, BUT ALSO ALL THE OTHER KIDS SITTING OFF WITH PROBABLY ZOOMING BY US AND ALL OF THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. HAVE A GOOD DAY. HI, MY NAME IS CLARK MOSLEY AND I LIVE ON DOWNS SHIRE STREET IN CROWN HILL PARK. I'M SUBMITTING COMMENTS REGARDING CASES Z DASH 2 0 22 DASH 1 0 7 0 1 5, WHICH IS A REZONING PROPOSAL FOR A LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEX ALONG JOHN JONES MONBERGER, UH, WOULD LIKE TO, UM, VOICE OUR OPPOSITION, MY HOUSEHOLD'S OPPOSITION IN REGARDS TO THAT PROJECT AND IN REGARDS TO REZONING IT, UH, AND SPECIFICALLY DUE TO SAFETY TRAFFIC CONCERNS, UH, WITH WHAT THAT DEVELOPMENT WOULD DO. UH, AFTER THE ALAMO HEIGHTS BUILT, THEIR, THEIR SWIMMING COMPLEX, UH, HAS ALREADY CREATED A, A CURVE ON A VERY DANGEROUS AREA WITH QUITE A BIT OF ADDED TRAFFIC. YOU CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT A 500, UH, APARTMENT COMPLEX WOULD CONTINUE TO DO THAT. UM, SO AGAIN, WE ARE IN OPPOSITION OF CHANGING THE ZONING FOR THAT PROJECT. UH, IN REGARDS TO CASE Z 2 MILLION 22 1 0 7 0 1 0 5. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS EMILY RUTH LOZANO. I LIVE AT SEVEN 15 PASS SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. THE LAST THREE DIGITS OF THE CASE NUMBERS IS 1 0 5. I BELIEVE THE ZONING COMMITTEE NEEDS TO ADDRESS TRAFFIC ISSUES IN JONES BERGER BEFORE ALLOWING MORE RESIDENTS FOR THE NEW APARTMENT COMPLEX. TDOT WILL ALSO INCREASE TRAFFIC WHEN CONSTRUCTION STARTS AND IF CLOSES MCCULLOUGH, WE WILL HAVE THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD TRYING TO ENTER AND EXIT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'LL NEED TO WORK ON THIS. THANK YOU. HI. YEAH, THIS IS GREG STEIDEL. I LIVE AT 6 1 8 COLE PASS IN CROWN HILL PARK, TEXAS 7 8 2 1 6. JUST CALLING ABOUT THE TRAMELL CROW APARTMENT COMPLEX, UM, THAT Y'ALL ARE CONSIDERING FOR THE JONES MALTSBERGER EXIT UNDER ZONING CASE Z 2 0 2 2 1 0 7 0 0 1 0 5. UM, I DO APPRECIATE THAT MY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN NEGOTIATING WITH THE DEVELOPER AND THE COUNCIL PEOPLE FOR A FEW MONTHS ON THIS. UM, BUT THERE'S ONE ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED AND THAT'S THE ENTRANCES. UM, THEY SHOULD BE ON 2 81 AND NOT ON JONES MALTSBERGER BECAUSE JONES MALTSBERGER IS ALREADY HIGHLY TRAFFICKED ENOUGH. UM, I GET THAT IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT WITH THE ISSUES WE ALREADY HAVE WITH PEOPLE CROSSING FROM JONES MALTSBERGER TO THE MCCULLOUGH EXIT OFF OF FOUR 10 THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, 'CAUSE IT'S KIND OF LIKE A ZELDA [03:30:01] WARP ZONE, IT'S JUST GONNA GET 10 TIMES WORSE. UM, SO Y'ALL ARE EITHER GONNA NEED TO EXPAND JONES MALTSBERGER THERE TO FOUR LANES WITH A MIDDLE TURN LANE, OR YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE THERE'S JUST NO WAY THAT UNLESS YOU GATE THAT OFF THERE, THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO SURVIVE THIS. SO PLEASE HAVE THEM PUT THE EXIT OFF OF 2 81 AND THE 2 81 ACCESS ROAD FOR THE APARTMENT COMPLEX TRAMELL GROVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAVE A GOOD DAY. BYE-BYE. HI, MY NAME IS HENRY CHE AND I LIVE, UH, ON 6 2 3 COLE WIND PASS, OF COURSE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. UM, I LIVE IN THE, UH, CROWN HILL PARK, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M SUBMITTING COMMENTS REGARDING CASE NUMBER, UH, Z 20 22 1 0 7 0 0 1 0 5, WHICH IS A REZONING PROPOSAL FOR A LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEX, UH, ALONG JONES MOSSBERG. MY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN NEGOTIATING WITH A DEVELOPER FOR SEVERAL MONTHS AND KEEPING RESIDENTS INFORMED OF ITS PROGRESS. ALTHOUGH SOME COMPROMISES HAVE BEEN AGREED UPON, I I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT THE COMMUNITY WAS UNABLE TO SECURE A COMMITMENT FOR EVEN WANTED, UH, ENTRANCE ADJOINING THE 2 81 ACCESS ROAD. THE AIRPORT AREA HAS DOZENS OF HOUSING COMPLEXES WHOSE ONLY ENTRANCE ADJOIN A FRONTAGE ROAD. AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PROPERTY DEEDED OF THIS SITE ALREADY INCLUDES EGRESS RIGHTS TO THE 2 81 ACCESS ROAD, BUT THE DEVELOPER INSIST CONSTRUCTION COSTS WOULD BE PROHIBITIVE. I ENCOURAGE THE COMMUNITY TO QUESTION THIS STANCE AND EASTERN ENTRANCE WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY ALLEVIATE THE IMPACT OF NEARLY 500 TENANT VEHICLES BEING ADDED TO AN ALREADY CONGESTED TWO-LANE STRETCH OF JONES MALTSBERGER. THAT ROADWAY WILL BECOME THE PRIMARY ROUTE FOR ALL CROWN HILL PARK WHEN TECH STACK COMPLETES ITS OVERHAUL OF FOUR 10 IN JUST A FEW YEARS. FRANKLY, I I SUSPECT TENANTS OF THE COMPLEX WILL BE GLAD TO HAVE A ROUTE THAT AVOIDS JONES UH, MALTSBERGER AND THEREFORE ACCESS ROAD ENTRANCE MAY PROVE TO BE A WISE INVESTMENT FOR THE DEVELOPER IN THE LONG RUN. APPARENTLY THE COMPLEX WILL PROBABLY COST OVER 50 MILLION TO BUILD, SO I IMAGINE THERE MUST BE SOME WIGGLE ROOM TO MAKE THIS COMMON SENSE ACCOMMODATION. I ENCOURAGE THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER THAT PUBLIC WORKS FAILED TO INCLUDE 9 MILLION FOR EXPANSION OF JONES MOSSBERG IN THE RECENT BOND. AND THE DEVELOPER'S LIABILITY TO MITIGATE THE TRAFFIC WILL CAUSE IS LIKELY TO BE KEPT AT POULTRY PORTION OF ITS OVERALL BUDGET. BERGER IS GOING TO REMAIN A PROBLEM FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE AND STEPS SHOULD BE TAKEN TO EASE THE PAIN IN ON OUR COMMUNITY. I ENCOURAGE THE COMMISSION TO MAKE APPROVAL OF THIS REZONING REQUEST CONTINGENT UPON AT LEAST ONE INTEREST ADJOINING THE 2 81 ACCESS ROAD. IT'S A REASONABLE AND RESPONSIBLE REQUEST GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JOHN CRICK. I RESIDE AT 7 2 2 PASS, UM, CASE NUMBER Z 20 22 7 5. MY CONCERN, MY ONLY CONCERN IS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC PATTERN THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED AND UH, WITH THE CITY'S INFINITE WISDOM, I'M AFRAID THAT, THAT IT IS GONNA CAUSE MORE OF A TRAFFIC JAM THAN ANYTHING BECAUSE OF THE CLOSURE OF, UH, COMING UP WITH THE MCCULLOUGH ISSUE. UM, MORE TRAFFIC IS GONNA INCUR DURING THE STUDENT JONES MALL, BUT SO MY ONLY CONCERN IS, IS IF THEY CAN SHOW EXACTLY HOW THE TRAFFIC IS GONNA BE DEALT WITH, THEN I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE REZONING. OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN. THANK YOU. CASE NUMBER Z 20 22 1 0 7 0 0 1 0 5. CALLING REFERENCE TO AGAINST THE REZONING CROWN HILL PARK, WE OBJECT. JUANITA RODRIGUEZ, 91 0 3 REGAL STREET, RODRIGUEZ 3 2 3 CORT ROBERTO 6 0 6 PASS, JORGE REJO 6 0 6 ALGAR, MARIA G AND RICARDO CSOS 92 0 2 RICO STREET. WE PAY TAXES. SO WE HOPE THAT YOU ALL TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION BASED ON THE FACT WE THE ONLY NEIGHBORHOOD IN THIS AREA AND IT'S GONNA BE A [03:35:01] HORRIBLE PROBLEM FOR ALL OF US THAT RESIDE IN THIS AREA. REFERENCE TO TRAFFIC, THE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS FROM JONES MOBERG. AND I HOPE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL, I HOPE THEY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT WE ARE PROPERTY TAXPAYERS. WE BELONG IN ALAMO HEIGHTS AND NORTHEAST AND WE OBJECT TO THE RE-ZONING CRIME TRAFFIC, AND THE CONGESTION THAT'S GONNA BE CAUSED HERE. HOPEFULLY TAKE STOCK WE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AND MAKE ALL THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT TO THE ACCESS ROAD. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS DUST AND I LIVE AT 3 1 4 ALGA ROAD IN CROWN HILL PARK AND I'M SUBMITTING COMMENTS REGARDING THE CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 2 2 1 0 7 0 0 1 0 5, WHICH IS A REZONING PROPOSAL FOR A LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEX ON JONES BERGER. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I'M HIGHLY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS AS WE ARE A FAIRLY YOUNG NEIGHBORHOOD WITH LOTS OF CHILDREN LIVING IN THE AREA. UH, MY DAUGHTER AND I WILL ALMOST DAILY RIDE OUR BIKES TO THE TENNIS COURTS OR TO THE SWIMMING POOL. UH, WE'RE CONCERNED WITH THE AMOUNT OF INCREASED TRAFFIC THAT IS GONNA OCCUR WITH THIS IN ADDITION TO THE, UH, HIGHWAY CHANGES ON FOUR 10. UM, SOME THINGS THAT WE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HAVING, IF THERE'S ANY POSSIBILITY OF AN ENTRANCE ON THE 2 81 SIDE OR A STREETLIGHT OR A WIDENING A JONES MULLER WITH THE TURNING LANE, UH, JUST BECAUSE I WAS REALLY, REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE KIDS IN THE AREA. UM, MANY KIDS ARE OUT WALKING, GOING, TAKING TO SCHOOL, BUS TO AND FROM SCHOOL. UM, IF THERE'S ANY WAY YOU COULD CONSIDER THESE THESE THINGS IN THE PROPOSAL, IT'D BE GREATLY APPRECIATED, ESPECIALLY FROM A SAFETY CONCERN FOR MYSELF AND OTHER PARENTS IN BAY AREA. IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, PLEASE GIVE ME A CALL BACK AT EIGHT ZERO SIX EIGHT FIVE THREE ZERO SEVEN EIGHT. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS KENNETH KAKI AND I LIVE AT 94 10 WHITEHALL STREET SINCE 1987. I'M SUBMITTING COMMENTS REGARDING CASE NUMBER Z DASH 2 0 2 2 1 0 7 0 0 1 0 5, WHICH IS A REZONING PROPOSAL FOR A LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEX ALONG JONES MALTSBERGER. IF THE REZONING IS APPROVED IN SOME 500 NEW AUTOS USING JONES MALTSBERGER FOR ENTRANCE AND EGRESS, IT'S FAIRLY OBVIOUS TRAFFIC CONGESTION WILL MARKEDLY INCREASE FROM ITS CURRENT HEAVILY OVERSUBSCRIBED USE. UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS NO OBLIGATION FOR FUNDING NEEDED INGRESS EGRESS IMPROVEMENT. MY HOPE IS THAT THE GOVERNMENT WILL ALLOW A FEW TEMPORARY MEASURES SUCH AS TRAFFIC LIGHT SLASH TURN LANE SLASH RERE RES STRIPING NIGHTTIME AND NIGHTTIME ROAD REFLECTORS. IT'S DIFFICULT TO IMAGINE THE TRAFFIC LOAD THROUGH OUR STREETS. ONCE TDOT CLOSES OUR ACCESS SOUTH ON MCCULLOUGH AND FORCES A HIGH SPEED MERGE WESTBOUND UPON EXITING CROWN HILL PARK HOTEL AND ADDITIONAL CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC WILL USE MARQUEE LANE AND COAL WIND PASS AS ALTERNATE ROUTES AND EVEN DOWNS SHIRE DURING HEAVY TRAFFIC. THIS IS ESPECIALLY FRUSTRATING KNOWING THAT THE WIDENING AND IMPROVING JONES MALTSBERGER HAS BEEN ON THE AGENDA FOR 30 YEARS BUT HAS NE NEVER MADE THE CUT. NOT EVEN WITH THE LAST MONTH, WHICH I VOTED GOING HOME FROM THE WEST ON FOUR 10. TURNING LEFT ONTO JONES MALTSBERGER COMES A DIFFICULT NORTHBOUND LEFT TURN ONTO TRAF OR CORT, WHICH I HOPE SOME OF THESE TEMPORARY MITIGATION MEASURES WILL EASE. I'M PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN THE TIMING OF THE VARIOUS SUB MILESTONES OF THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION. I WILL HOPE TO TURN LANES AND LIGHTS AND NIGHTTIME REFLECTORS PRECEDE THE OCCUPANCY OF THE HOUSING UNITS. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS AGREED IN PRINCIPLE TO HAVE RENTAL UNITS PRICED AT MARKET RATES AND THAT SUBSIDIZED HOUSING SECTION AA WILL NOT BE ALLOWED. CRIME EXPERIENCE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS INCREASED WITH THE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT ON THE CURRENT PROPERTY. MANY STUDIES HAVE SHOWN INCREASED [03:40:01] CRIME WITH SUCH SUBSIDIZING SUBSIDIZED HOUSING. CURRENTLY I'M IN DISTRICT NINE, APART FROM MY DISTRICT ONE NEIGHBORS FOR POPULATION BALANCING PURPOSES. THERE, THERE IS A FAIR CHANCE THAT I WILL BE REDISTRICTED INTO DISTRICT ONE AND THAT THE NEW CONSTRUCTION WILL ALSO BE MOVED FROM MR. COURAGE OF D NINE TO MR. BRAVO OF D ONE. MOST OF THE REGION D NINE IS FURTHER NORTH OF CROWN HILL PARK, AS IS THE NEW CONSTRUCTION. MY HOPE IS THAT MR. BRAVO'S OPINIONS WILL BE WEIGHED ACCORDINGLY IN VIEW OF THE ABOVE. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS LU RA. I AM A RESIDENT. MY ADDRESS IS 91 11 REGAL ROAD, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 1 6. I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO UM, CASE NUMBER Z 2022 DASH 701 0 5. UM, OBJECTING TO THE REZONING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, DUE TO TRAFFIC AND CRIME, THERE IS A LOT OF TRAFFIC GOES THROUGH THERE. WE DO LIVE ON THE CORNER. UH, THERE IS A STOP SIGN AND THERE ARE SOME FREQUENT, UM, PEOPLE THAT TAKE THAT STOP SIGN. THEY DON'T STOP. SO EVERY SO OFTEN WE DO GET AN ACCIDENT ALSO CALLING, UM, BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC, THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC IN THE MORNING. PEOPLE THAT GO TO WORK, THEY PASS THROUGH THERE AND THEY GO VERY FAST. THERE ARE SPEED BUMPS ON ONE STREET, BUT THERE'S NOT ON, UH, COEN PASS. SO THE CARS, UH, DRIVE BY PRETTY FAST. UM, ALSO, UM, I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE PEOPLE DO WALK AND THEY ALSO RIDE THEIR BIKES AND THERE'S CHILDREN PLAYING AND CARS DON'T RESPECT THAT. OTHER THING IS THERE ARE ALSO A LOT OF CRIME. THERE IS APARTMENTS AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE AND WE HAVE A LOT OF INCREASED CRIME BECAUSE PEOPLE COME FROM THERE OR THEY HAVE AN EASY ACCESS FROM JOEL MOSPER THROUGH MCCULLOUGH ALSO. AND, UM, THE EXPRESSWAY BEING REAL CLOSE BY, IT'S JUST AN EASY ACCESS FOR THEM TO GO IN AND OUT. SO I AM OBJECTING TO THE REZONING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. MY CALLBACK NUMBER IS 2 1 0 4 8 9 0 1 8 2. AGAIN, MY NAME IS LURE RA, I'M A RESIDENT, UM, AND LIVE ON THE CORNER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. BYE-BYE. MY NAME IS MATILDA KAKI AND I LIVE AT 94 10 WHITEHALL STREET, CURRENTLY IN DISTRICT NINE, BUT EXPECTED TO BE REASSIGNED TO DISTRICT ONE. MY PHONE NUMBER IS TWO TEN FOUR TEN FIVE FOUR EIGHT SIX. I'M SUBMITTING COMMENTS REGARDING CASE 1 0 5, A REZONING PROPOSAL FOR A LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEX ALONG JONES MALZBERG. I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY ISSUES THIS WILL CREATE FOR BOTH THE APARTMENT RESIDENTS AND THE RESIDENTS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. JONES BERGER IS ALREADY TOO CONGESTED. THIS SITUATION WILL BE EVEN WORSE WHEN TDOT REMOVES THE LIGHT ON MCCULLOUGH SIMULTANEOUSLY RESTRICTING SOUTH AND EASTBOUND TRAFFIC AND FORCING WESTBOUND TRAFFIC TO MERGE WITH THE HIGH SPEED TRAFFIC ON THE UNRESTRICTED ACCESS ROAD. ADDING 351 APARTMENTS WITH PERHAPS 500 CARS WILL BE DANGEROUS. IF THE DEVELOPER IS NOT OBLIGATED TO PAY FOR THE ESSENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS TO JONES SMALLBURG, THEN THE CITY MUST STOP KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AND FIND A WAY TO PAY FOR THE IMPROVEMENT THEMSELVES. AT THE VERY LEAST, AS A TEMPORARY IMMEDIATE SOLUTION, I WOULD HOPE FOR TURN LANE RE STRIPING, INCLUDING NIGHTTIME REFLECTORS AND A STOPLIGHT. I CAN ALSO SEE THAT PROVIDING AN EXIT FROM THE APARTMENT COMPLEX ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AT THE 2 81 ACCESS ROAD WOULD REDUCE THE STRAIN ON JONES. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS MICHAEL FS AND I LIVE AT SIX 10 TRAFALGAR IN CROWN HILL PARK. I AM SUBMITTING COMMENTS REGARDING CASE C DASH 2 0 22 DASH 1 0 7 0 1 0 5, WHICH IS A REZONING PROPOSAL FOR A LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEX ALONG JONES MOBERG. I OPPOSE THIS BECAUSE WHOEVER IS IN THE ZONING COMMISSION APPROVED THE NATATORIUM ACROSS THE STREET WITH ONLY 44 PARKING SPACES FOR A 400 SEAT, UH, ARENA. AND WE ARE ALREADY HAVING TRAFFIC PROBLEMS IN OUR STREETS WHEN THEY HAVE TOURNAMENTS THERE. IF YOU ADD 365 APARTMENTS THERE, UH, IT'S GOING TO MAKE A TRAFFIC DEBACLE ON JONES MALTSBERGER, WHICH IS ALREADY OVERUSED AND UNDER PAVED AND NOT WIDE ENOUGH. THE FLOODING THAT WILL OCCUR BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE WATER FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DRAINS OFF TO WILL MAKE IT WORSE IN [03:45:01] OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WHOEVER OKAYED THE ZONING FOR THE NATATORIUM AT AT JONES MALTSBERGER AND TRAFALGAR HAS TO BE FIRED BECAUSE 44 PARKING SPACES FOR FOR FOUR A 400 SEAT ARENA IS RIDICULOUS. SO I OPPOSE THE APARTMENT COMPLEX AND I STILL OPPOSE AN EDITORIAL. MY NAME IS MICHAEL HUGHES, 2 1 0 6 0 1 2 8 8 4. GET YOURSELF TOGETHER THERE PEOPLE. . HI, MY NAME IS MICHAEL PENA, CASE 1 0 7 0 0 1 0 5. I DO NOT LIKE THE ZONING CODE BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC AND SAFETY. I LIVE AT 4 0 2 DOWNS SHIRE DRIVE, SAN TEXAS 7 8 2 1 6. ONCE AGAIN, I DO NOT LIKE THE ZONING FOR THE APARTMENTS BECAUSE OF SAFETY AND TRAFFIC. THANK YOU. I HOPE THE PUBLIC GOVERNMENT IS WORKING. BYE-BYE. HI, I'M PATRICK LOZANO. I RESIDE AT, UH, SEVEN 15 OLAND PASS. UM, THE CASE NUMBER IS 1 0 5 AND I'D JUST LIKE TO, UH, STATE THAT I OPPOSE THE ZONING CHANGE. THERE'S ALREADY TOO MUCH TRAFFIC HERE WITH THE IMPLEMENTION OF THE NEW, UH, AN AUDITORIUM AS WELL AS JUST THE, UH, TRAFFIC THAT'S CAUSED BY THE HIGHWAYS THAT INTERSECT HERE. SO IT WOULD BE GET MUCH MORE DIFFICULT FOR THE PEOPLE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO TRAVERSE BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE, THEY'RE GONNA BE AMPLIFYING THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GONNA BE RUNNING THROUGH HERE TO TRY AND SHORTCUT AS WELL. SO, UH, THAT'S ALL I GOT. BYE. HI, THIS IS RACHEL MALDEN. I LIVE ON SIX 14 WIND PASS. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 215-8518. I LIVE IN CROWN HILL PARK. I HAVE BEEN A HOME OWNER AND A RESIDENT AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE 1997. I AM CALLING TO OBJECT TO THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY ON JONES BERGER LISTED IN CASE NUMBER ENDING IN 0 1 0 5. I OBJECT TO THIS REZONING AS IT WILL ADVERSELY AFFECT THE TRAFFIC ALONG JONES MALZBERG AT CROWN HILL PARK AND ALSO AT THE LIGHT ON JONES MALZBERG AND RAMSEY. HEADING NORTH. THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS AN UPCOMING TRAFFIC ISSUE WITH TEXT DOT'S DECISION TO RESTRICT ACCESS TO THE CROWN HILL PARK NEIGHBORHOOD AT MCCULLOUGH. PRESENT ROAD CONDITIONS ON JONES MALZBERG AT CROWN HILL PARK CANNOT SUSTAIN ANY INCREASED TRAFFIC WITHOUT CHANGES SUCH AS WIDENING THE ROAD, ADDING A TURN LANE AND A TRAFFIC LIGHT, AS WELL AS ALLEVIATING THE CLOG OF VEHICLES DURING PEAK TIMES AT THE RAMSEY LIGHTS. IMPROVING THESE ROAD CONDITIONS MUST HAPPEN PRIOR TO ANY CONSTRUCTION AS CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES WILL CAUSE THE FIRST ADVERSE CONDITIONS IN INCREASING THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS RONNIE LMA. I LIVE ON 4 1 5 DOWNS SHIRE DRIVE IN CROWN HILL PARK. I'M SUBMITTING COMMENTS REGARDING CASE Z 2002, 107 0 1 0 5, WHICH IS A REZONING PROPOSAL FOR A LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEX ALONG JONES BERGER. I'M OPPOSED TO REZONING THIS AREA. WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY NEW HOMES BUILT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE LAST 20 YEARS. THE TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION ALONE IS A NIGHTMARE. UM, WITH THE CITY GROWING AS WELL LARGE AS IT IS, UH, REZONING THAT AREA IS JUST NOT A GOOD IDEA. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS SHANNON ST HERE. MY COMMENTS ARE REGARDING THE APARTMENT COMPLEX PLANNED FOR JONES MOSSBERG, WHICH IS ZONING CASE Z DASH 2 0 22 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 1 0 5. I WANNA GIVE THE ZONING COMMISSION SOME HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE ON THE SECTION OF JONES MOSSBERG. THE CITY HAS KNOWN THIS SIMPLE TWO-LANE ROADWAY HAS BEEN OVER CAPACITY FOR DECADES AND CONTINUES TO IGNORE THE NEED FOR IMPROVEMENTS. CONGESTION HAS GOTTEN MORE DANGEROUS BECAUSE THE CITY KEEPS APPROVING NEW DEVELOPMENTS WITHOUT REQUIRING ANY MEANINGFUL MITIGATION IMPROVEMENTS. THE MOST RECENT EXAMPLE IS THE NEW ALAMO HEIGHTS NATATORIUM, WHICH CAUSES WAVES OF TRAFFIC THAT WEREN'T PROPERLY ANTICIPATED. FOLKS IN CROWN HILL PARK STRUGGLED TO GET OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN THE NATATORIUM IS OPERATING AND THE POORLY DESIGNED RAMSEY INTERSECTION BECOMES A HORNET'S NEST OF IRATE DRIVERS. THE NEED TO WIDEN JONES MALTSBERGER WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE CITY'S MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN AS EARLY AS 1992. EVANDER LEWIS, WHOSE DEVELOPMENT PARTNER AND THEIR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS KNEW JONES MALTSBERGER NEEDED TO BE A FOUR LANE DIVIDED ROAD. AND IN 2015, THE SAN ANTONIO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT MASTER PLAN IDENTIFIED JONES MALTSBERGER AT OVER CAPACITY DUE TO ROADWAY [03:50:01] CONGESTION. TWO YEARS AGO, PUBLIC WORK SAID THAT JONES MOSSBERG IMPROVEMENTS WOULD REQUIRE BOND MONEY, BUT THEY FAILED TO ADD IT TO THE LIST. RESIDENTS THEN LOBBIED THE BOND COMMITTEE AND PUBLIC WORKS SAID IMPROVEMENTS WOULD COST APPROXIMATELY $9 MILLION. THE RESIDENTS FAILED IN PART TO GET BOND MONEY BECAUSE D NINE REFUSED TO VOICE THE SUPPORT FOR ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT. SO NOW THIS TROUBLED ROADWAY IS BEING ASKED TO ACCOMMODATE A HUGE APARTMENT COMPLEX. IT'S ASTOUNDING THAT COUNCILMAN COURAGE WOULD CONSIDER ENDORSING THIS PROJECT WITHOUT PRESENTING A PLAN TO FUND WHATEVER MITIGATION THAT DEVELOP DEVELOPER WON'T BE REQUIRED TO PAY FOR. IT'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE CITY OFFICIAL IGNORING A GROWING SAFETY PROBLEM THAT'S ONLY GETTING WORSE. THE BLAME FOR THE DECADES LONG NEGLECT OF JONES MOSSBERG DOESN'T FALL UPON THE RESIDENTS OF CROWN HILL PARK, BUT IT SEEMS THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES TRYING TO FIND A PROPER SOLUTION. SO I ASK THAT THE COMMISSION PUT A STOP TO THE CYCLE, MAKE APPROVAL OF THIS REZONING REQUEST CONTINGENT UPON PROPER EXPANSION OF JONES MOSSBERG. LET THE LANDOWNER, THE DEVELOPER AND THE COUNCIL PERSON FIGURE OUT WHERE THE NECESSARY MONEY COMES FROM, WHICH FRANKLY IS EXACTLY WHAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED BEFORE THE REQUEST REACHES YOUR COMMITTEE TODAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR GOOD WORK ON BEHALF OF ALL RESIDENTS IN SAN ANTONIO. THAT CONCLUDES THE VOICEMAILS. VERY GOOD. ALRIGHT, UH, MR. KAUFMAN, A BRIEF REBUTTAL. WELL, THANK YOU AND I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AS I'M SURE CROWN HILL PARK DOES AS WELL. YOU KNOW, I'M A LITTLE TROUBLED, UH, YOU KNOW, FEEL BAD LISTENING TO SOME OF THESE COMMENTS. I, AS I MENTIONED IN MY REMARKS, IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT TRAFFIC AND SURE ENOUGH IT'S ABOUT TRAFFIC. AND THE TRUTH IS, FOR SOME OF THESE PEOPLE THAT CALLED IN, I DON'T THINK THEY UNDERSTAND HOW IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED AND THE TRAFFIC IT'S GONNA GENERATE IF IT WAS COMMERCIAL. AND THEY, THE, THE COMMENTS THAT I LISTENED TO SOUNDED LIKE THEY THOUGHT, WELL, IF I KILL THIS PROJECT, MY TRAFFIC GOES AWAY. AND THAT'S NOT THE CASE. THAT'S JUST NOT THE TRUTH. AND I, I FEEL BAD THAT, THAT WE COULDN'T GET TO THOSE. NOW THERE WERE, YOU KNOW, THE 20 HOUSEHOLDS OR 15 HOUSEHOLDS OUTTA 300. WE HAD A OPEN MEETING AND WE HAD A LETTER SENT BY COUNCILMAN COURAGE AND COUNCILMAN BRAVO. THEY BOTH SIGNED IT, SENT TO EVERYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO COME IN AND GET A PRESENTATION. AND WE WENT OVER THIS AND GREAT DETAIL AND I'M SORRY THEY MISSED IT. 'CAUSE I THINK IT WOULD'VE HELPED SOME OF THEM ALLEVIATE SOME OF THEIR FEARS. THAT'S ONE. UM, I THINK THEY, WE HAVE REALLY TALKED ABOUT TIAS OR TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT NO DEVELOPER CAN, CAN BUILD ON THIS SITE WITHOUT COMPLETING A T I A. AND THE CITY IS GOING TO MANDATE CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS OFFSITE THAT DEVELOPER'S GONNA HAVE TO PAY FOR. NOW, WHAT THE, THE LAW IS THE DEVELOPER HAS TO MITIGATE THE TRAFFIC THEY ADD, BUT THE DEVELOPER'S NOT REQUIRED TO CURE THE CURRENT AILS UH, ILLS OF THE TRAFFIC SITUATION. SO, UH, WITH THE HELP OF THE H O A OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOARD AND WE'VE, UH, CONTACTED COUNCILMAN ENCOURAGED, UH, THEY'VE EXPRESSED VERY STRONG STATEMENTS ABOUT A FUNDING STRATEGY. UM, PUBLIC WORKS HAS MENTIONED THAT THE T I A THAT'S DONE WILL LOOK AT ACCESS TO, TO THE ACCESS ROAD. THAT SEVERAL FOUR OR FIVE OF THE COMMENTS WERE ON THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE LOOKED AT AND ALL THOSE THINGS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE ANSWERS AND HOPEFULLY YOU CAN APPRECIATE THE ANSWERS. I JUST FEEL BAD THAT, THAT THEY'VE BEEN ANXIOUS ABOUT IT AND THEY THINK IF THEY BEAT THE ZONING CASE, THEREFORE THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT WOULD BE THE SHAME. AND, AND THAT'S, SO THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE AND I'LL, I'LL BE GLAD. BY THE WAY, EVANDER LEWIS' NAME WAS, HE'S THE, THE HEIRS OF EVANDER LEWIS ON THIS SITE. HE HIRED ME TO GET A ROUNDABOUT ON JONES MOSSBERG 15 YEARS AGO IN HIS LIFE. AND NO ONE HERE KNEW WHAT A ROUNDABOUT WAS, AND WE COULDN'T GET PUBLIC WORKS TO EVEN CONSIDER A ROUNDABOUT. THOSE ARE IN CALIFORNIA. SO HE'S BEEN ON THE FOREFRONT OF THE FAMILY OF TRYING TO IMPROVE JOHN MOBERG EVEN BACK 15 YEARS AGO. SO I, I SHARE THEIR PAIN. I THINK THIS PROJECT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU, MR. KAUFMAN. ALRIGHT. THIS IS A, UH, DISTRICT NINE CASE COMMISSIONER REBUTTALS TO YOU. BILL, DON'T SIT DOWN YET. UM, I, I, UM, [03:55:01] FIRST I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO PETER AND KELLY FOR ATTENDING THE MEETINGS AND BRIEF ME ON, ON THIS ON APRIL THE 29TH SUMMER. AND I HAVE SPENT, UH, A FEW CONVERSATIONS. BUT HERE'S A QUESTION. I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WE KNEW WAS TRAFFIC. UM, SO WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF OPTIONS, 1, 2, 3 THAT WE SAW IN THE PRESENTATION ABOUT HAVING THE MAIN ENTRANCE ON THE ACCESS ROAD OF 2 81? WHAT, WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO DO THAT? UH, AND WHO CAN HELP US TO GET THAT DONE? YEAH, IT'S, WE DON'T WANNA MISLEAD ANYONE. THAT'S A, IT'S COMPLICATED FROM A TECHNICAL POINT OF VIEW. THERE'S A CULVERT, UH, THE LAND ZONE BY TXDOT OR SOMEONE, UH, NOT THE DEVELOPER. YOU NEED TDOT APPROVAL. CAN THEY DO IT? WE DON'T KNOW. BUT WE COMMITTED EARNESTLY WITH PETER AND KELLY TO TRY TO INCLUDE IT AS AN OPTION UNDER THE T I A TO EXPLORE. UH, IS THAT'S FEASIBLE. I I REALLY DON'T KNOW IF IT IS OR ISN'T. UH, I'VE DONE MANY CASES WITH TXDOT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SOMEWHERE ELSE AND, UH, BUT WE'LL, WE'RE GONNA ASK AND TRY. THAT WAS OUR COMMITMENT AND THEY WERE VERY EARNEST ABOUT THAT. IN FACT, THEY REMINDED ME LAST NIGHT AND THIS MORNING THAT THEY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S DONE. SO WE COMMITTED TO DO THAT. THANK YOU. I WOULD OPEN IT TO OTHER QUESTIONS. UH, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA. I MEAN, I DRIVE AT LEAST THREE TIMES A WEEK THROUGH THERE, UH, TO GAIN ACCESS TO BOTH SECURITY SAVINGS, UH, MEETINGS AT THE EMBASSY SUITES IN THE CORNER, AND ALSO THE POST OFFICE BY THE AIRPORT, WHICH IS OPEN ALMOST, UH, 24 HOURS. UH, SO I, I DRIVE THROUGH THE AIR, I KNOW THE, UH, OPPORTUNITIES AND I KNOW THAT, UH, ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO INFORM THE COMMISSIONERS, UM, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH COUNCILMAN, UH, JOHN COURAGE, ALSO HIS CHIEF OF STAFF, THIS PROJECT. BUT I'M ALSO AWARE THAT THAT ROAD OF JONES MUSBURGER IT IS, IS REALLY A, A CITY STREET THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN CARE BY PUBLIC WORKS. AND, UH, THERE'S AN ENOUGH SPACE, THERE'S ALSO AN ACCESS ROAD TO THAT. SO I MEAN, IF, IF THE CITY WANTED TO BUILD A FOUR LANE TO EACH, EACH WAY THEY COULD DO IT, UH, 'CAUSE THE SPACE IS THERE. SO, UH, THE ONLY OTHER CHALLENGE THAT I, I WANTED TO INFORM YOU, BETWEEN RAMSEY AND 2 81, THERE'S TWO SETS OF TRAFFIC LIGHTS WITHIN HUNDRED 50 FEET THAT IN MY OPINION, THEY'RE POORLY TIME. I WORKED ON A LOT OF TRAFFIC LIGHTS, UH, DOWNTOWN TO THE POINT WHERE I CAN HIT 7, 8, 10 GREEN LIGHTS IN THE ROAD. BUT I HAD TO CALL SEVERAL PEOPLE IN PUBLIC WORKS, UH, EDDIE, MARY, AND A LOT OF FOLKS, AND IT GOT SOLVED. UH, SO I THINK WE NEED TO SPEND TIME IN TIMING THOSE TRAFFIC LIGHTS A LOT BETTER AND MAKING A RIGHT TURN FROM JONES TO 2 81 ACCESS ROAD EVEN MORE CONVENIENT LIKE WE HAVE DONE IN A LOT OF OTHER, UH, AREAS. UH, A HUGE IMPROVEMENT THAT WAS DONE RECENTLY WAS ON BLANCO AND BIDS. PEOPLE WERE ALWAYS BLOCKED, UH, ON BIDS TO GO INTO BLANCO AND WE ADDED A LANE AND THAT PROBLEM HAS GONE AWAY. SO THINGS CAN HAPPEN, BUT IT'S MOSTLY NOT ABOUT THE PROJECT ITSELF, IT'S ABOUT THE TRAFFIC THAT, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS HAD FOR, FOR MANY YEARS. AND BY THE WAY, ONE MORE PIECE OF INFORMATION TO THE COMMISSIONERS. THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ON DISTRICT ONE. THE PIECE OF LAND, THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT IS ON DISTRICT NINE. AND BECAUSE I ALSO SERVE ON THE AIRPORT COMMISSION, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE'S ABOUT TWO OR THREE HOTELS LOOKING AT SITES ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE ACROSS FROM EMBASSY SUITES AND OTHER LAND ON FOUR 10 AND 2 81. SO THERE'S MORE BUILDING COMING UP IN THAT AREA THAT, UH, WE WILL FORCE SOME MORE IMPROVEMENTS ON, UH, TRAFFIC AND CONTROL AND TRAFFIC LIGHTS. SO WE, THAT'S THE WAY THAT WE'RE GROWING. BUT UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW AND UH, WE GOT THE EXPERTS IN THE ROOM HERE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER REBATO. UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMERS TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. ALRIGHT, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. UM, AND I GUESS I'LL START WITH, UM, STAFF. IF THIS, UH, PROPERTY WERE TO REMAIN C THREE WOULD ACCESS BE ALLOWED ONTO JONES MALTSBERGER? WE SEND OUR ZONING CASES TO TDOT FOR COMMENTS. WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED OFFICIAL COMMENTS YET, BUT [04:00:01] THEY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN REVIEWING THE SITE PLAN. THEIR PROPOSED SITE PLAN SHOWS ACCESS ON JONES MALTSBERGER. UM, AND THEY HAVE NO CONCERNS ON THAT. WHAT WE HAVE TYPICALLY SEEN FROM TDOT WHEN THEY WEIGH IN ON CASES IS THAT THEY HAVE HUGE CONCERNS WITH ADDING ADDITIONAL DRIVEWAYS WHEN YOU HAVE AN EXIT POINT COMING OFF A FREEWAY 'CAUSE PEOPLE ARE SPEEDING OFF AND THEN JUST A FEW FEET DOWN THE ROAD YOU HAVE AN ENTRANCE POINT. UM, SO THEY DISCOURAGE ADDITIONAL DRIVEWAYS ON, ON A, ON THAT TDOT ROAD WHEN IN THOSE CASES, ADDITIONALLY YOU HAVE THIS AS MOSTLY IN THE FLOODPLAIN YOU NEED UN FLOODED ACCESS. SO YOU'RE GONNA PROBABLY LOOK AT A BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION IF TXDOT WOULD ALLOW ANY ADDITIONAL DRIVEWAYS ON THAT. BUT BECAUSE THIS HAS A JONES MALTSBERGER, MOST LIKELY THE DRIVEWAYS WOULD COME OFF OF JONES MALTSBERGER INSTEAD FOR THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY ZONED AS CURRENTLY ZONED. OKAY. AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FLOODPLAIN, LOOKING AT THE SLIDE THAT'S CURRENTLY UP ON THE SCREEN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BLUE SHADED AREA, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S THE FLOODPLAIN AREA. OKAY. AND THERE'S A CULVERT THERE BETWEEN THE PROPERTY AND 2 81 CURRENTLY? YES. ALRIGHT. UM, I DON'T KNOW FOR WHOM THIS NEXT QUESTION IS WHETHER IT'S MR. KAUFMAN OR STAFF. SO I WILL OPEN IT UP TO BOTH, BUT YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND MR. LIANOS CONCERN REGARDING TREES. UM, AND YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT COVERAGE AND REMOVAL OF TREES IN NEW PROJECTS, UH, DO WE TYPICALLY SEE MORE TREE REMOVAL IN A COMMERCIAL A C THREE COMMERCIAL OR IN A EVEN A MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL? IT'S GONNA DEPEND ON THE, UH, TIMEFRAME AT WHICH THEY COM UM, ARE ALLOWED TO COMPLY WITH TREE ORDINANCES. SO IF THEY HAVE A PROJECT THAT WAS, UM, IN THE WORKS AND IT'S CONSIDERED VESTED, IT MAY BE VESTED TO PREVIOUS TREE ORDINANCES WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE TO SAVE AS MANY TREES. AND WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE CHANGING THE PROJECT, THEN YOU HAVE TO COMPLY WITH CURRENT ORDINANCES. SO HE CAN PROBABLY TELL YOU WHAT HE'S COMPLYING WITH. SO MR. KAUFMAN, TO YOU THEN, UM, I WAS JUST ADVISED THAT THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE MOST CURRENT TREE ORDINANCE. OKAY. AND AS A GENERAL RULE, THE MOST MOST CURRENT TREE ORDINANCE IS THE ONE THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE PRESERVATION OF THE MOST TREES, CORRECT? YES. ALRIGHT. UM, AND THIS MIGHT BE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD GENERALLY, UH, I'M LOOKING AND I'VE DRIVEN BY HERE, UH, I'M ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO TOOK MY DAUGHTER TO THE AUDITORIUM LAST SUMMER, SO I WAS PART OF THE PROBLEM THERE. UH, I DO WANNA SAY ONE THING. I THINK IN DEFENSE OF US, THOSE KINDS OF BUILDINGS DON'T NECESSARILY COME TO ZONING FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, SO WE WEREN'T RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. JUST TO BE VERY CLEAR, UM, WE DO NOT HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT BECAUSE THE ISDS ARE SEPARATE JURIDICAL INSTRUMENTS OR, UH, ENTITIES I GUESS. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, LOOKING THE ACCESS ROAD FROM 2 81, IT APPEARS THAT THERE WAS A FAIRLY LARGE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT AT SOME POINT ALONG THAT PROPERTY. UM, HAS THAT BEEN A CONCERN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, MR. LUND? ANYONE? SORRY. YEAH, PLEASE COME ON UP IF YOU, IF YOU DON'T MIND. WE'VE HAD SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS WITH HOMELESS CAMP ENCAMPMENTS ON BOTH THE EAST SIDE ON THE JONES MALTSBERGER AS WELL AS THE WEST SIDE. ON THE WEST SIDE, UM, ENCAMPMENT WITHIN THE CITY, DRAINAGE EASEMENT AS WELL AS IN THE TUNNEL. THE ENCAMPMENT ON THE JONES MALZBERG SIDE TENDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, UH, BECAUSE IT'S SET BACK, UM, BEHIND THE TREES SOMETIMES YOU WERE NOT AWARE OF HOW BIG IT WAS UNLESS YOU ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO BE DRIVING ON ACCESS ROAD OF 2 81 AND YOU COULD SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THEY BUILT SOME ELABORATE STRUCTURES BACK THERE. SO WHERE UNFORTUNATELY THE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS, IT'S KIND OF SURROUNDING THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO IT'S NOT JUST THE JONES MOSSBERG, UM, PARCELS. THANK YOU. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT IS A CONCERN AS WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT A, YOU KNOW, A PROPERTY THAT'S LOOKING FOR A PROJECT, I THINK IS WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO. UM, MR. KAUFMAN FOR YOU. UM, DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS TODAY, AND THAT WILL LARGELY BE UP TO COMMISSIONER BOTTLES. UH, DO YOU INTEND, YOU KNOW, ONE THING [04:05:01] YOU MENTIONED THAT STUCK OUT TO ME WAS, YOU KNOW, YOU FELT LIKE SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS YOU DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO MEET WITH. SHOULD THIS GO FORWARD TODAY AND WHATEVER FORM, UH, DO YOU, WILL YOU ENDEAVOR TO MEET WITH, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORS STILL AS WE GO FORWARD, THE CITY COUNCIL UNDER WHAT, WHATEVER CIRCUMSTANCE? OF COURSE. UH, I JUST MIGHT ANECDOTALLY SAY THAT WE STARTED EXCHANGING INFORMATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I THINK IN SEPTEMBER OF 2021. WE DIDN'T FILE A CASE UNTIL APRIL. AND OUR, OUR ALWAYS GOAL IS WE DO NOT FILE A CASE UNTIL WE MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND EXHAUST IT AND GET AS FAR, AND WE FINALLY FILED IT IN APRIL BECAUSE OF THE MEETINGS WE HAD WITH THE BOARD AND WE SAW PROGRESS AND WE THEN WE, BUT WE DON'T WANNA, WE DON'T WANNA FILE A CASE AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY GET A NOTICE IN THE MAIL AND THEY GOT TWO WEEKS TO RESPOND. THAT'S JUST NOT A WAY TO DO IT. AND SO WE, WE WENT OVER BOARDS, LITERALLY EIGHT MONTHS OF TALKING AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO TALK AND I, I, I WISH THE PEOPLE THAT CALLED IN WERE HERE AND WE COULD TAKE 'EM OUT IN THE HALL LIKE WE USUALLY DO AND EXPLAIN HOW IT WORKS. I JUST, I FEEL BAD ABOUT IT, BUT, UH, SO THE ANSWER, THE LONG ANSWER IS YES. YES. THANK YOU, MR. KAUFMAN, UH, STAFF. I DID HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR YOU. LOOKING AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WAS RAISED OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN WAS THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD REALLY ONLY HAS TWO POINTS OF ENTRANCE AND EGRESS, UH, MCCULLOUGH DOWN TOWARDS FOUR 10 AND JONES MALTSBERGER SORT OF BETWEEN FOUR 10 AND 2 81, UH, ON THE, I GUESS THE EASTERN BOUNDARY. UM, BUT LOOKING AT THE MAP, THERE APPEARS TO BE A NUMBER OF POTENTIAL EGRESS AND INGRESS POINTS ON MCCULLOUGH, FOR EXAMPLE, TO THE NORTH. I THINK IT'S CONTESSA TO THE NORTH AND, UM, I CAN'T READ THAT ONE. UM, I NEED TO GET MY READING GLASSES OUT AND I CAN'T FIND THEM, UM, THAT, THAT APPEAR TO BE BLOCKED. UM, DO WE KNOW WHY THOSE INGRESS AND EGRESS POINTS WERE BLOCKED OUT? OH, I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU. VERY GOOD QUESTION. VERY GOOD QUESTION. SO I WILL TAKE THAT FROM STAFF AND GIVE IT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WAS ACTUALLY FOUNDED ALMOST 30 YEARS AGO BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS THAT RESULTED FROM CONTINUED CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC FROM CONTESSA, UH, THE MCCULLOUGH. UM, AND UM, WHAT WAS THE OTHER STREET? I'VE GONE BLANK MOUTH. YES, THERE WE GO. SO AT THAT POINT, UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE SITUATED BETWEEN 2 81 AND FOUR 10 HISTORICALLY, UH, FOR ALMOST OVER 40 YEARS THAT R N A RECORDS HAVE BEEN, UM, THAT WE'VE BEEN DOCUMENTING THIS, UH, 6,000 CARS A DAY WOULD GO DOWN THESE STREETS AND RESIDENTS WERE NOT ABLE TO BACK UP FROM THE DRIVEWAYS. THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT SAFETY CONCERNS. IT'S THE SAME SITUATION THAT WE'RE FACING ON MARQUEE THAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO INCREASE. UM, BECAUSE ONCE TDOT, UM, DOES BEGIN THEIR, THEIR PROJECT, UH, THE, THE QUICKEST AND MOST DIRECT ROUTE FOR RESIDENTS TO, I MEAN FOR THE CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC IS ON MARQUEE BECAUSE IT'S THE LONGEST STRETCH AND IT'S THE EASIEST TO ACCESS FROM MCCULLOUGH. SO THAT IS WHY BACK AT BELIEVE IT WAS IN 19, UM, I THINK IT WAS 1991, THAT THOSE, UM, TWO STREETS WERE BLOCKED OFF. IT, IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, ALRIGHT, THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? TO MY LEFT, TO MY RIGHT? YES. UM, I WAS PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE TESTIMONY ABOUT TRAFFIC, UM, AND ACCIDENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD DUE TO EITHER SPEEDING OR RECKLESS DRIVING. UM, AND OF COURSE SENSITIVE TO THE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ABOUT HOW ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA HAS LED TO NEIGHBORS EXPERIENCING TRAFFIC. BUT I'M LOOKING AT, UM, THE STAFF REPORT AND WHERE IT SAYS HEALTH SAFETY, UH, THEY, THEY CLAIM THAT THERE ARE NO, THERE'S NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT. CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH HOW THAT IS DETERMINED IF THE NEIGHBORS ARE EXPRESSING THAT THERE HAVE BEEN ACCIDENTS AND DEATHS IN THE COMMUNITY? SO AGAIN, WHEN UM, DEVELOPMENTS COME FORWARD, THEY HAVE TO DO THEIR OWN ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY BASED ON THEIR DEVELOPMENTS. SO NEW DEVELOPMENTS ARE NOT GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR FIXING PROBLEMS THAT ALREADY EXIST BECAUSE OF OTHER SITUATIONS THEY JUST HAVE TO MITIGATE FOR THEIR OWN DEVELOPMENT. UH, SO WHEN WE COME UP WITH OUR CRITERIA, IT'S ONLY BASED ON THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND [04:10:01] OUR TAKE ON THAT WAS THAT BECAUSE IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED C THREE, WHICH COULD TRIPLE OR QUADRUPLE TRAFFIC AND IT'S DOWN ZONING TO AN MF, THAT HELPS TO, UM, INCREASE THE PUBLIC SAFETY WELFARE OF THAT. AGAIN, DEVELOPMENTS HAVE TO MITIGATE FOR THEIR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, NOT FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST. IS IT APPLES AND TO APPLES COMPARING EVEN IF YOU ARE DOWN ZONING IF AND CORRECT. PLEASE REMIND ME HOW MANY UNITS WE'RE GONNA GO INTO THIS SPACE. 351. SO, SO WITHOUT FULLY UNDERSTANDING, UM, HOW MUCH TRAFFIC OR HOW MUCH MORE DENSITY A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY WOULD INTRODUCE INTO THE AREA, UH, BUT I UNDER, AND THEN IT'S HARD TO COMPARE THAT TO WHAT IMPACT 350 UNITS ADDED INTO THE, THE AREA. SO MAYBE SOMEONE CAN EXPLAIN THAT EITHER WAY. ONE IS FICTIONAL, ONE IS MORE REAL IN FRONT OF US, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW TO WEIGH THAT. UM, BUT IT'S HARD. THERE IS A SLIDE. OKAY. YEAH, THERE IS A SLIDE WHERE HE, UH, COMPARED BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS TAKE, BASICALLY WHAT THEY DO IS THEY SAY, OKAY, THIS IS ZONED AT THIS INTENSITY, THIS IS THE TYPES OF USES THAT WOULD NEED TO BE PARKED OR UH, TRAVEL. AND SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL, THE TRAFFIC FOR RESIDENTIAL IS GENERATED BECAUSE THE PEOPLE LIVE THERE, RIGHT? SO THEY'RE COMING BECAUSE THEY LIVE THERE OR THEIR FAMILIES OR FRIENDS ARE COMING BECAUSE SOMEBODY THEY KNOW LIVES THERE. BUT WITH COMMERCIAL, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A DRAW THAT IS REGIONAL, IT CAN COME FROM ANYWHERE, WHICH IS WHY IT'S MORE TRAFFIC FOR COMMERCIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL. BUT THERE'S THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS, UH, THE POTENTIAL FOR DEVELOPMENT. IT'S, IT'S ALMOST MY BEDTIME. SO WALK ME THROUGH IT AGAIN. I'M BEG YOUR PARDON? COULD YOU WALK ME THROUGH IT AGAIN? I CAN DO MY BEST. OKAY. THIS WAS PREPARED BY CIVIL ENGINEERS, NOT, NOT US, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE SLIDE, WHAT THEY DO, THERE'S MANUALS THEY DEAL WITH AND THEY CAN PROJECT FAIRLY ACCURATELY, UH, ESPECIALLY FOR APARTMENT COMPLEX BECAUSE YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE THERE AND YOU KNOW WHAT THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE. AND THAT'S NOT GUESSWORK IN A COMMERCIAL. WELL IT DEPENDS, IS IT A RESTAURANT OR THREE RESTAURANTS OR FIVE, YOU KNOW, FAST FOODS OR IS IT AN ACADEMY? IS IT A BEST BUY? AND THEY MAKE PROJECTIONS BASED ON LOTS OF SCIENCE OF WHAT THEY EXPECT, THE TRAFFIC. SO WHAT YOU'RE READING AT PEAK HOUR TRAFFICS ARE, I THINK IT'S SIX 30 TO EIGHT 30 IN THE MORNING IS AM PM IS FOUR 30 TO SIX 30, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THEY ESTIMATE THE ENGINE, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS, HOW MANY TRIPS WOULD BE GENERATED, UH, IF IT WAS A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND SO YOU SAID IN THE MORNING 950 TRIPS, THAT'S ALL THE PEOPLE COMING IN AND SHOPPING FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS AND YOU KNOW, UH, IHOP AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS OR A HOTEL OR HOTELS AND, AND THE PEAK HOUR AND THOSE ARE THE, WHAT YOU REALLY WANNA LOOK AT. THAT'S WHEN THE TRAFFIC'S BACKED UP ON FOUR 10 OR 1604 OR WHEREVER. AND THEN MULTIFAMILY IT GOES DOWN TO SAY, WELL, BUT IF IT'S ONLY 351 UNITS, THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC GENERATED, FIRST OF ALL APARTMENTS, IT'S CHANGED IN THE OLD DAYS WHEN EVERYBODY WENT TO WORK AT EIGHT 30 AND COME HOME AT FIVE 30. WELL, IT'S NOT THAT WAY ANYMORE. YOU WORK AT HOSPITALS IN YOUR SHIFT MAY NOT BE AT 10 AT NIGHT OR YOU GO SOMEWHERE IN YOUR SHIFTS EARLY IN THE MORNING. SO THE THE PATTERNS, A LOT OF PEOPLE WORK AT HOME AND THEY, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF US HERE WORKED AT HOME DURING COVID AND THEY'RE STILL WORKING AT HOME. SO YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN TRAFFIC. THE COMPARISON IS COMMERCIAL AND THE MORNING 953 TRIPS IN THE, UH, AND IF IT'S MULTIFAMILY IN THE MORNING, IT'S 161 TRIPS. DOES THAT HELP? YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS 40 YEARS AND I STILL STRUGGLE, SO I SO BAD. FIRST DAY. UM, AND THEN LAST QUESTION AND NOT FOR YOU, BILL. THANK YOU. UM, WHAT IS THE KIND OF PRECEDENCE FOR THIS COMMITTEE IF, IF TRAFFIC IS SUCH A CONCERN AND WE HAVE SOME DATA IN FRONT OF US, UH, BUT THERE'S CONCERNS STILL BEING EXPRESSED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND NEIGHBORS, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE WE PRIORITIZE AND WELCOME THAT FEEDBACK AND IT'S KEY TO OUR JUDGMENT. UM, IS THERE A PRECEDENT FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO WAIT TILL TRAFFIC STUDIES ARE DONE SO WE CAN HAVE THAT PIECE OF INFORMATION AND SLEEP BETTER AT NIGHT? OR WHAT IS, HOW, HOW DO WE INTERACT WITH THAT TYPE OF REQUEST? NO, 'CAUSE OFTEN, UH, THE APPLICANT REPRESENTED NEEDS THAT ZONING. THEY NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE DEVELOPING. SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE HERE. THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THEIR ZONING SO THAT THAT WAY THEY CAN PROCEED TO PLATTING AND, AND ALL OF THE OTHER, UM, DETAILS THAT THEY WILL NEED TO ADDRESS. SO WHAT WE USUALLY DO IN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE THERE IS A LOT OF CONCERN OVER, UM, TRAFFIC AND, AND ACCIDENTS IS ENCOURAGE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT, [04:15:01] THE REPRESENTATIVE TO GET WITH THE COUNCIL OFFICE AND THE FROM THE COUNCIL OFFICE, THEY CAN THEN BEGIN ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE THINGS THROUGH, UH, THE T C I DEPARTMENT AND, AND THAT'S THE WAY THEY'RE, THEY'RE GENERALLY DEALT WITH. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER BOTTLES TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION. FIRST OF ALL, I, UM, WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO PETER AND KELLY AND THE BOARD MEMBERS FOR MEETING AND I THINK YOU ALL HAVE HAD A LOT OF INFORMATION, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT AND DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER. UM, AND, UH, MR. KAUFMAN AS REPRESENTATIVE AND ALL THAT. UM, I'VE SPENT SOME TIME WITH BOTH, UH, SUMMER WHO REPRESENT DISTRICT ONE. I'VE ALSO SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH, UH, CHIEF OF STAFF DEREK FOR COUNCILMAN COURAGE. SO, UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT AND YOUR VALUABLE INPUT ABOUT IT. THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER SOLUTIONS I DO WANT TO SAY TO THE NEW COMMISSIONER THAT, UH, WHETHER THIS ITEM IS APPROVED TODAY OR, OR NOT, UM, WHAT HAPPENS FROM HERE? THEN IT GOES TO A CITY COUNCIL, UM, A SESSION. SO THERE'S STILL TIME FOR THEM TO, TO MEET WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS AND WORK OTHER SOLUTIONS. AND THEN ACTUALLY, UH, UH, DON'T QUOTE ME ON THIS, BUT, UM, THERE'S WAYS TO START REQUESTING FUNDS TO EXPAND. UH, JOHN BERGER AND I WOULD ACTUALLY ASK BOTH, UM, DISTRICTS ONE, DISTRICT NINE. SO PETER AND KELLY, IF Y'ALL NEED HELP WITH THOSE APPOINTMENTS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO HELP YOU WITH THAT. UH, I THINK IN THE PROCESS TO REQUEST FOR FUNDING FOR TRANSPORTATION AND STREET MAINTENANCE, UH, NEEDS TO HAPPEN AS PART OF THE PROCESS. UM, I'VE BEEN BRIEFED ON THIS PROJECT. UM, UH, I THINK THIS IS THE BETTER USE OF THE LAND. UH, I WAS A DEVELOPER IN MY PREVIOUS LIFE, UM, ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO. SO I BUILT A LOT OF SHOPPING CENTERS. SO I KNOW ABOUT TRAFFIC AND I KNOW ABOUT THE IMPACT. SO THIS IS A LESS IMPACT THAN UH, UH, BUILDING A RESIDENTIAL OR AN APARTMENT COMPLEX IS A LOT LESS AND I'VE SEEN IT WITH MY OWN EYES. UM, SO AT THIS POINT I AM GOING TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 19. UM, AND I WILL NEED A SECOND FOR THAT. THE FLOORS OPEN FOR A SECOND TO THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL. SECOND. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER KAMATH PROVIDES A SECOND, UH, DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT COMMISSIONER, JUST THE SAME THING. I WOULD JUST MAKE A COMMENT TO MR. KAUFMAN JUST TO CONTINUE TO DIALOGUE WITH THE RESIDENTS AND HOPEFULLY FIND SOME TYPE OF, UH, MEDIAN TO GET THE ENTRANCE OFF THE AXI SHORT IF TDOT ALLOWS IT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES. YEAH, I, I'M ACTUALLY STRUGGLING WITH THIS ONE. UM, BECAUSE, UM, IN DISTRICT SEVEN WE HAVE A SMALL LITTLE ROAD CALLED BANDERA THAT HAS A TON OF TRAFFIC ON IT. AND, UM, WE, WE'VE HAD, UM, ZONING CASES COME BEFORE US ON, ON REZONING FOR MULTIFAMILY. UM, IN THOSE CASES, HOWEVER, WE WERE GOING FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND, AND BASICALLY UPZONING TO A TO MULTIFAMILY. IN THIS CASE IT'S A DOWN ZONING, BUT I STILL REALLY STRUGGLE WITH, WITH IT. AND I UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS THAT THE COMMERCIAL HAS VERSUS MULTIFAMILY, BUT I ALSO SEE THAT IT'S BEEN VACANT A LONG TIME AND IF THERE IS REALLY THE DEMAND FOR COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL WOULD'VE BEEN BUILT. UM, BUT I SEE HOW THE DEVELOPER HAS WORKED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE THE COUNCIL OFFICE. SO I AM, I'M, I'M AT THIS POINT I'M, I'M, I'M REALLY STRUGGLING WITH, WITH HOW TO VOTE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SIPES. COMMISSIONER TO MY WRIGHT. I AM ALSO STRUGGLING. I WISH I HAD MORE INFORMATION AND CONFIDENCE. UM, AND IT'S HARD TO IGNORE. UM, THE ADDITIONAL NEIGHBORS WHO, WHO ASKED FOR MORE TIME ON THIS AND MORE TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT. UM, I FEEL ENCOURAGED BY OUR TRAFFIC EXPERT HERE AND, AND SO THAT'LL HELP ME SLEEP WELL AT NIGHT. UM, BUT WHAT WOULD CERTAINLY FEEL BETTER IF I, IF I HAD HAD MORE TIME TO DIGEST THAT INFORMATION. AND THAT'S UP TO ME 'CAUSE I JUST JOINED. UM, SO I'M, I'M, I'M STRUGGLING AS WELL. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER TO MY RIGHT. ALRIGHT. UM, THIS IS A CLOSE ONE FOR ME AS WELL. UH, HOWEVER, UH, I AM GOING TO SUPPORT, [04:20:02] UH, THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL. AND PART OF THE REASON IS BECAUSE IT IS DOWN ZONING. PART OF THE REASON IS BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST A DOWN ZONING FROM A C THREE COMMERCIAL TO JUST ANY MF. IT'S NOT EVEN THE MOST INTENSIVE MULTIFAMILY USES AVAILABLE. UM, IT IS SORT OF MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. IT'S A LOW DENSITY MF 25, NOT MF 33 OR, UM, AND SO GIVEN THAT, GIVEN THAT IT WILL IN, IT WILL TAKE A PROPERTY THAT YOU KNOW HAS NOT BEEN DEVELOPED AS COMMISSIONER SIPES POINTED OUT, THAT DOES APPEAR TO HAVE SOME NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORS. AND AGAIN, BECAUSE IT'S A DOWN ZONING FROM MF 25, YOU KNOW, IF, IF SOMEONE'S GIVEN US WRONG NUMBERS ON THE C THREE, UH, PEAK TRAFFIC LOAD VERSUS THE MF 25 PEAK TRAFFIC LOAD, THEY'RE REMARKABLY CONSISTENT ACROSS PROJECTS. THEY'RE REMARKABLY CONSISTENT ACROSS, IN, ACROSS INDIVIDUALS WHO COME BEFORE US. UM, AND FRANKLY, IT JUST KIND OF COMPORTS WITH MY OWN ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE. I LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, BANDERA AND 1604 AND THE HEAVY C THREE USAGE. THERE, YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY HOW MANY CARS COME AND IN AND OUT OF THE, THOSE COMMERCIAL USES ALL THE TIME. AND IT'S JUST NOT AS MUCH AS 351 UNITS OF MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING. UH, SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION. UM, AND THANK YOU ALL. THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 19 BY COMMISSIONER BARROS WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KAMATH. ROLL CALL VOTE. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER LU HOLLAND ABSTAIN. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR VICE AYE. MOTION PASSES. PLEASE DO CONTINUE THAT DIALOGUE. PLEASE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH EACH OTHER. UM, AND GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. UH, WE HAVE [Approval of Minutes  ] ONE ITEM LEFT ON OUR AGENDA AND THAT IS THE MINUTES FROM OUR MAY 3RD ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS? CORRECTIONS, AMENDMENTS, EDITS, NOTES, HEARING NONE. IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE? ALRIGHT. THERE IS A MOTION TO APPROVE AS SUBMITTED BY COMMISSIONER S SIPES. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALRIGHT. SECOND. BY COMMISSIONER BOTTLES. UH, BY ACCLIMATION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES? SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. VERY GOOD. THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED. AND [Director’s Report] IS THERE ANY DIRECTOR'S REPORT? JUST A QUICK REMINDER THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE LONGER WORK SESSIONS IN JUNE A BECAUSE OF THE U D C AMENDMENTS. BECAUSE OF, OH, UDC AMENDMENT. I, I WANNA SAY SOMETHING, TIMING PERFECT IS PROBABLY INAPPROPRIATE, BUT I'LL MOVE ON. BUT YES. UM, OKAY. VERY GOOD. WE WILL HAVE THE U D C AMENDMENTS TO DEAL WITH. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. THIS WAS A RATHER LONG MEETING. I WISH I COULD SAY, UH, COMMISSIONER LU HOLLEN THAT, UH, THEY'RE NOT ALL THIS LONG AND THAT IS A TRUE STATEMENT. THEY ARE NOT ALL THIS LONG. THEY ARE, BUT MANY ARE . UM, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, WELCOME TO THE COMMISSION. THANK YOU TO ALL THE STAFF AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. THE TIME IS 5 33 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. YEAH, I WOULD SAY HALF THE TIME. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.