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          I LIKE AUSTIN, BUT I LOVE SANTO DANCING AND GROOVE BACK DOWN THE ROAD. 
          SO I LIKE, BUT I LOVE SANTON AND IF WE'RE PLACE TO GO. 
          SO I, BUT I LOVE SAN ANTONIO. 
          IN SAN ANTONIO, PUNTO. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. 
          WELCOME TO OUR CITY COUNCIL B. 
          SESSION TIME IS 2:14 PM ON THIS EIGHTH DAY OF JUNE, 2022. 
          WE'LL CALL OUR MEETING TO ORDER. 
          MADAM CLERK, COULD YOU READ THE ROLE? COUNCIL MEMBER BRAVO IS HERE REMOTELY. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ. 
          PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER VRAN. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER EO HDA. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ELA COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE PRESENT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY HERE. 
          MAYOR NIERENBERG. 
          HERE. 
          MAYOR, WE HAVE A QUORUM AND 
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WELCOME EVERYONE. 
          UH, WE HAVE ONE ITEM ON OUR AGENDA TODAY FOR BRIEFING. 
          UH, TO BEGIN, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CITY MANAGER ERIC WALSH. 
          AFTERNOON MAYOR COUNCIL. 
          SO, UH, ONE ITEM ON OUR AGENDA TODAY. 
          IT'S A BRIEFING ON THE STATUS OF THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE SAN ANTONIO, UH, CLIMATE ACTION AND ADAPT ADAPTATION PLAN. 
          UM, JUST IN TERMS OF CONTEXT, AND I THINK THIS WILL PROBABLY BE THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE, UM, UM, UPDATED, UH, THE ENTIRE COUNCIL IN SOME TIME. 
          BUT THE PLAN WAS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL IN ON OCTOBER 17TH, 2019, UM, AND SETS A GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION TARGET OF CARBON NEUTRALITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY BY 2050, UM, AND IDENTIFY CERTAIN MEASURES TO ADAPT, UM, TO CURRENT AND PROJECTED CLIMATE IMPACTS. 
          UM, AND, AND AS WE CONTINUE TO SEE THOSE CLIMATE IMPACTS GLOBALLY AND NATIONALLY AND EVEN HERE LOCALLY HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, UH, IT'LL BE CONTINUE TO BE IMPORTANT AS EVER, THAT WE CONTINUE TO WORK THE PATH AND THE PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL. 
          SO, UM, TODAY'S PRESENTATION, JULIA MURPHY, OUR DEPUTY CHIEF SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER, WILL BEGIN THE PRESENTATION WITH A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE IMPLEMENTATION, UH, ACTIONS OF THE CAP PLAN. 
          AND THEN DOUG, OUR, UH, DOUG MELNICK, OUR CHIEF SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER, WILL FOLLOW WITH DETAILS ON THE STATUS OF THE WORK OF THE DRAFT BENCHMARKING, UH, WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE. 
          UH, WE ALSO HAVE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY GROUP, UH, THE COMMUNITY, UH, COMMITTEES THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, HELPING WITH THIS, WITH THIS EFFORT. 
          AND WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY COUNCIL ACTION TODAY, BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOME FEEDBACK, UH, FROM YOU ON THE PLAN AND, UH, AS WE CONTINUE TO, UH, WORK THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THAT 2019 PLAN THAT THE COUNCIL ADOPTED, WHAT FEELS LIKE A REALLY LONG TIME AGO. 
          UM, AND, UH, WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO, UM, JULIET TO KICK US OFF, AND THEN WE'LL TRANSITION TO DOUG. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE YOU ON SAN ANTONIO'S CLIMATE ACTION AND ADAPTATION PLAN. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, RECOGNIZE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO ARE HERE WITH US TODAY, INCLUDING ADELE CHORI, WHO HAS BEEN OUR CLIMATE ADVISOR FROM THE AMERICAN CITIES CLIMATE CHALLENGE. 
          UM, OUR OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY TEAM IS HERE WITH US TODAY. 
          MEMBERS OF OUR SA CLIMATE READY ADVISORY COMMITTEE ARE HERE BUILD SAN ANTONIO GREEN AND TEXAS CREATIVE, WHO IS HELPING US WITH OUR CLIMATE, UH, COMMUNICATIONS PROJECT. 
          SO, UM, IN ADDITION TO AFTER PROVIDING A BRIEF, BRIEF BACKGROUND, WE WILL BE HIGHLIGHTING INITIATIVES IN THE FOLLOWING AREAS, THE MUNICIPAL POLICIES AND PROGRAMS, SECTOR, COMMUNITY POLICIES AND PROGRAMS, EDUCATION AND EMPOWERMENT, AND THE BUILDING ENERGY AWARENESS PROGRAM, WHICH IS ENERGY BUILD BENCHMARKING FOR LARGE BUILDINGS. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          AND I'M SO SORRY, . 
          THANK YOU. 
          I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS DIRECTING IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          CAUGHT UP HERE. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO, 
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UH, GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND HERE ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. 
          ON THIS CHART, YOU WILL SEE THAT WE REACHED A HIGH POINT IN 2014 FOR OUR EMISSIONS INVENTORY. 
          WHEN WE TOOK THE INVENTORY ABOUT WHICH OUR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN IS BASED ON IN 2016, THOSE EMISSIONS HAD ACTUALLY BEEN REDUCED, BUT WHEN WE MEASURED AGAIN IN 2019, WE ONLY WENT DOWN 0.2%. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S BASICALLY A FLAT TRAJECTORY. 
          ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHERE WE NEED TO BE, WHICH IS A 41% REDUCTION BY 2030, A 71% REDUCTION BY 2040, AND THIS IS TO REACH CARBON NEUTRALITY BY 2050, WHICH IS IN THE CLIMATE ACTION NET ADAPTATION PLAN. 
          WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING OUR INVENTORY FOR 2021, AND I'M SURE I DON'T NEED TO TELL MOST OF YOU THAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING THE IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE ALREADY. 
          UM, AS PREDICTED IN THE, UH, CLIMATE PLAN, WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE WARMER DAYS OVERALL. 
          WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE LESS RAINFALL OVERALL, AND WHEN WE DO GET RAIN, WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE MORE SEVERE STORMS AND EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS. 
          THIS PAST MAY, ACCORDING TO SEVERAL NEWS SOURCES, WAS ONE OF THE HOTTEST WE'VE HAD SINCE MEASUREMENTS WERE TAKEN IN 9 18 85 WITH TEMPERATURES 6.5 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL PRECIPITATION AT 80% BELOW NORMAL, AND THE EARLIEST OCCURRENCE OF CONSECUTIVE A HUNDRED DEGREE DAYS. 
          SO, NEEDLESS TO SAY, WE WILL CONTINUE TO EXPECT FURTHER IMPACTS ON AIR QUALITY AND PUBLIC HEALTH ENERGY COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH COOLING AND HEATING OUR BUILDINGS IMPACTS ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND WORLD HERITAGE SITES. 
          MILITARY PREPAREDNESS AND NATIONAL SECURITY IS GOING TO BE AFFECTED AS WELL AS BOND RATINGS AND INSURANCE RATES. 
          HOWEVER, WE DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ITSELF IS LEADING BY EXAMPLE IN CLIMATE ACTION IN THE AREA OF EDUCATION AND EMPOWERMENT. 
          WE HAVE LAUNCHED THE SECOND YEAR OF OUR ALL COSA STAFF CLIMATE TRAINING IN THE AREA OF REDUCING BUILDING ENERGY CONSUMPTION. 
          WE RECENTLY ROLLED OUT OUR MUNICIPAL FACILITIES, ENERGY POLICY AND SOLAR PROCUREMENT FOR SOME OF OUR PHYSICAL ASSETS IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY. 
          AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO BENCHMARK OUR VERY OWN BUILDINGS TO REDUCE TRANSPORTATION ENERGY CONSUMPTION. 
          WE HAVE RESTRUCTURED OSA'S FIRST GENERATION GREEN FLEET POLICY TO INCORPORATE THE CITY'S AIR QUALITY AND EMISSIONS REDUCTION GOALS. 
          IN THESE EFFORTS, WE HAVE WORKED ACROSS DEPARTMENTS RESULTING IN STRONGER AND MORE EFFECTIVE INITIATIVES THAT WORK FOR COSA OPERATIONS. 
          SIMILARLY, THE OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY HAS INITIATED U D C AND BUILDING CONSISTENCY CODES, DEPARTMENTAL CLIMATE ACTION CONSISTENCY DOCUMENTS AND SUSTAINABILITY CRITERIA FOR THE 2022 TO 2027 BOND. 
          SO NOW I'LL BRIEFLY HIGHLIGHT TWO OF OUR FORWARD THINKING MUNICIPAL CLIMATE ACTION INITIATIVES. 
          OUR ALL COASTA CLIMATE TRAINING 2.0 IS THE IMPROVED COMPREHENSIVE TRAINING FOR CITY EMPLOYEES AND IS PART OF THE EDUCATE AND EMPOWER STRATEGY IN THE SI CLIMATE READY PLAN EIGHT MODULES SHOWCASE BEST PRACTICES FOR CLIMATE ACTION AT WORK AND AT HOME, AND INCLUDES GUEST SPEAKERS FROM OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS. 
          CURRENTLY, SCORES ARE AVERAGING B PLUS AND ATTENDANCE IS OVER 70%. 
          THIS PROGRAM WAS RECOGNIZED BY THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION OF TEXAS WITH THE 2021 STATEWIDE ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING AWARD. 
          THE NEXT HIGHLIGHT IS ABOUT THE WORK TO ACCELERATE THE GREENING OF THE CITY'S FLEET TRANSPORTATION ACCOUNTS FOR 21% OF OUR MUNICIPAL GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORY. 
          SO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO HAS BEEN WORKING WITH BUILDING AND EQUIPMENT SERVICES AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO UPDATE THE FORMER GREEN POLICY TO ALIGN WITH THE CITY'S GOALS AROUND MITIGATING HARMFUL GROUND LEVEL OZONE AND POLLUTING GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. 
          ADMINISTRATIVE DIRECTIVE 9.3, THE SUSTAINABLE FLEET AND ACQUISITION MANAGEMENT POLICY OUTLINES DIRECTION FOR AN ENVIRONMENTALLY AND FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE VEHICLE AND EQUIPMENT FLEET WHILE MEETING THE NEEDS OF CITY OPERATIONS. 
          THE PRIORITY IS ON ELECTRIC OR ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT. 
          IN FISCAL YEAR 20 22, 35 HYBRID AND 15, ALL ELECTRIC LIGHT DUTY VEHICLES ARE BEING PROCURED, WHICH WILL BRING THE NUMBER OF ALL ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN OUR FLEET. 
          2 35 BE S'S APPROACH TO REDUCING TRANSPORTATION CONSUMPTION ALSO INCLUDES DOWNSIZING AND RIGHT SIZING VEHICLES AND REDUCING OVERALL DEMAND 
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FOR VEHICLE USE. 
          SWITCHING GEARS, I'M GONNA TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE GREATER COMMUNITY AND I'LL, HERE AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF IMPACTFUL PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS WITHIN THE PRIOR TOUR SECTIONS OF THE CAP IN REDUCING BUILDING ENERGY CONSUMPTION. 
          WE HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON BUILDING ENERGY AWARENESS PROGRAM, WHICH WE'LL BE TALKING A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IN JUST A MOMENT. 
          AND PACE OUR OR PROPERTY ASSESSED CLEAN ENERGY, WHICH IS A FINANCING TOOL FOR ENERGY EFFICIENCY IMPROVEMENTS. 
          SIMILARLY IN REDUCING TRANSPORTATION ENERGY CONSUMPTION, WE'VE PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON SEIZING MARKET AND FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES IN THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE INDUSTRY THROUGH OUR ELECTRIC VEHICLE SAN ANTONIO EDUCATION AND OUTREACH CAMPAIGN, AS WELL AS OUR PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING PROGRAM. 
          IN THE AREA OF ADAPTATION, WE FOCUSED ON A COOL PAVEMENT PILOT WORKING ON RESILIENCE HUBS AND FOCUSING ON SYSTEM FOOD SYSTEM PLANNING THROUGHOUT. 
          WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH PARTNER AGENCIES ACROSS THE COMMUNITY TO IMPLEMENT THESE PROJECTS AND JUST, UH, JUST TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF OUR COMMUNITY NET INITIATIVES AS WE DID OUR MUNICIPAL INITIATIVES. 
          ELECTRIC VEHICLE SAN ANTONIO, OR E V S A IS ONE OF OUR COMMUNITY HIGHLIGHTS, AND THIS IS A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WITH BLINK CHARGING. 
          WE ARE INSTALLING OVER 50 PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE EV CHARGERS AT CITY ON SITES. 
          THIS PROJECT IS FUNDED IN PART WITH HISTORIC FUNDING THROUGH TEX V OR THE TEXAS VOLKSWAGEN ENVIRONMENTAL MITIGATION PROGRAM. 
          AND THIS SPRING, THE E V S A ELECTRIC VEHICLE COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM WAS AWARDED THE ROSA PARKS DIVERSITY LEADERSHIP AWARD BY THE WOMEN IN TRANSPORTATION SAN ANTONIO CHAPTER. 
          WE ALSO ARE REALLY PROUD TO REPORT THAT LAST NOVEMBER, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO BECAME THE FIRST CITY IN TEXAS AND THE THIRD IN THE COUNTRY TO IMPLEMENT COOL PAVEMENT AS A HEAT MITIGATION TOOL. 
          THE PILOT LOCATION NEAR THE HAY STREET BRIDGE WAS SELECTED BASED ON EQUITY DATA AND HISTORICAL SURFACE TEMPERATURES. 
          AND THE COOL PAVEMENT MATERIAL WAS DONATED BY GUARD TOP COOL PAVEMENT CAN COOL THE SURFACE TEMPERATURE OF THE ROADWAY BY SEVEN TO 12 DEGREES, AND IT CAN ALSO EXTEND THE LIFE OF IT. 
          WE WILL BE USING DATA FROM THIS PROJECT TO INFORM FUTURE PROJECTS AS WE CAN. 
          AND FINALLY, UM, WE WANT TO GIVE YOU A HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY OF ALL OF THE ENGAGEMENT WE'VE BEEN DOING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, AND ABOUT WE'RE ABOUT TO LAUNCH A BIG CAMPAIGN CALLED WHO CARES. 
          MESSAGING FOR THE SA CLIMATE READY EDUCATION AND EMPOWERMENT CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN DEVELOPED AFTER SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC INPUT FROM COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS, INCLUDING THE PUBLIC AT LARGE GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATIONS REPRESENTING FRONTLINE COMMUNITIES, THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, AND AREA YOUTH. 
          THE ORGANIZING THEME OF WHO CARES STEMS FROM A RECOGNITION THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT POINTS OF BELIEF AROUND CLIMATE ACTION AND CHANGE, BUT OFFERS THE QUESTION FOR INDIVIDUALS TO DECIDE HOW CLIMATE IMPACTS THEIR LIFE AND THE LIVES OF FUTURE GENERATIONS. 
          THE ESSAY CLIMATE READY.ORG WEBSITE IS A ONE-STOP SHOP FOR ALL THINGS RELATED TO OUR CITY'S CLIMATE ACTION PLANNING EFFORTS. 
          AND WE CONTINUE TO ENGAGE FRONTLINE COMMUNITIES THROUGH AWARDING CAPACITY BUILDING GRANTS AND CURRENT PARTNERS INCLUDE CULTURE RINGA BIKE SAN ANTONIO IN POWERHOUSE SA DISABILITY SA YANA RIOS FOOD POLICY COUNCIL OF SAN ANTONIO, THE SAN ANTONIO NURSING CONSORTIUM, SAN HEALING AND CULTURAL CLINIC, OPIA GARDENS AND VECINOS DE MISSION TRAILS GRANTS WILL ALSO BE EXTENDED TO BUSINESS-FOCUSED ORGANIZATIONS. 
          AND FINALLY, WE'VE JUST WRAPPED UP THE SECOND YEAR OF THE WILDLY POPULAR MAYOR'S YOUTH ENGAGEMENT COUNCIL FOR CLIMATE INITIATIVES. 
          THE COUNCIL PROVIDES A WAY FOR AREA HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS TO ACTIVELY ENGAGE IN THE CIVIC PROCESS AND INVEST IN THE FUTURE OF THEIR CITY BY LEARNING ABOUT CLIMATE ACTION AND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE. 
          LAST DECEMBER, MAYOR NUREMBERG ACCEPTED AN HONORABLE MENTION FROM THE UNITED STATES CONFERENCE OF MAYORS IN RECOGNITION OF THE YOUTH COUNCIL AND CLIMATE PROTECTION. 
          THE YOUTH COUNCIL ADMINISTERED BY ECO RISE IS SUPPORTED BY OUR STAFF AND IS FUNDED IN PART BY THE HOLLOMAN PRICE FOUNDATION. 
          THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. 
          AND AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO OUR CHIEF SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER, DOUG MELNICK. 
          THANKS, JULIA. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          UH, AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING ME THIS 
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OPPORTUNITY. 
          BEFORE I, I, I JUMP INTO A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS, UM, PROGRAM. 
          I JUST WANT TO, UH, LET YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S TWO FOLKS WHO WERE, UH, VERY HELPFUL, UH, GETTING US TO THIS POINT, UH, WITH THIS, THIS DRAFT PROPOSAL. 
          UH, KAREN GU, UM, AND, UH, UM, UH, LISA BARTA ARE HERE. 
          UM, THEY'VE REALLY SORT OF HELPED US NAVIGATE THE, UM, THE LANDSCAPE TO COME UP WITH WHAT WE THINK IS A, UH, HOPEFULLY A REASONABLE, UM, APPROACH TO REALLY TACKLING A, A BIG ISSUE. 
          SO, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THE, THE OBJECTIVE OF THIS PLAN IS TO DRASTICALLY REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. 
          AND, AND WE REALLY WANTED TO START LOOKING AT WHAT ARE THOSE BEST PRACTICES, UM, THAT ARE, THAT ARE, UH, HAPPENING NATIONALLY. 
          AND WE FOUND BENCHMARKING DISCLOSURE TO BE A FOUNDATIONAL AND COST-EFFECTIVE POLICY THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER. 
          UM, I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BACKGROUND, UM, THE CURRENT DRAFT RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT WE ARE NOT AS, AS, UM, WAS MENTIONED. 
          WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR ANY SORT OF ACTION. 
          UM, UH, WE'RE HOPING TO BRING BACK, UH, SOMETHING FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION LATER THIS YEAR. 
          SO, THE FIRST QUESTION EVERYONE'S BEEN ASKING, WELL, WHAT IS A BENCHMARKING ORDINANCE? UH, IT'S AN ORDINANCE IS, IS A POLICY, UH, THAT REQUIRES OWNERS OF LARGE, UM, BUILDINGS TO REPORT THEIR BUILDING BUILDINGS ENERGY USE, UM, ANNUALLY TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT. 
          UH, IT REQUIRES THE USE OF A FREE TOOL CALLED, UH, E P A, UH, PORTFOLIO MANAGER, WHICH THE, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO USES. 
          UM, AND THAT HELPS TRACK ENERGY USE WATER USE, AS WELL AS GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. 
          AND THAT'S THE MECHANISM BY WHICH THE INFORMATION IS TRANSMITTED TO THE CITY. 
          IT REQUIRES, AGAIN, REPORTING ONCE A YEAR, UM, WHICH IS, UH, UH, LIMITED INFORMATION THAT'S THEN SHARED WITH THE, THE COMMUNITY, AND IT PRODUCES AN ENERGY STAR SCORE BETWEEN ZERO AND AND 150 BEING MEDIAN. 
          SECOND QUESTION THAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING A LOT OVER, OVER, UM, OVER THE TIME THAT WE'VE SPENT TALKING ABOUT THIS IS WHY, WHY IS THIS THIS SO CRITICAL? AND, YOU KNOW, AS JULIA HAD MENTIONED, WE HAVE, UM, GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION TARGETS. 
          UM, AND THE OTHER CHALLENGE THAT WE FACE IS THE SCIENCE IS CHANGING. 
          UH, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR TARGET OF A, UM, 41% REDUCTION OF A 2016 BASELINE, UH, BY 2030, UM, MAY NOT BE AGGRESSIVE ENOUGH IN 2030S, RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. 
          UH, THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL PANEL OF CLIMATE CHANGE RECENTLY RELEASED A REPORT, UH, EARLIER THIS YEAR, BASICALLY STATING THAT IF GLOBAL, UH, UM, ARE NOT, UM, CURVED AND CONTINUE AT THESE CURRENT RATES, UH, WE WILL EXHAUST OUR GLOBAL CARBON BUDGET, UM, KEEPING US TO 1.5 DEGREES BY 2030. 
          SO BASICALLY, GLOBALLY, UM, CLIMATE CHANGE IS ACCELERATING AND, AND, UH, WE, WE ALL NEED TO, UM, FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE THOSE PRACTICAL MECHANISMS TO TRY TO ACCELERATE PROGRESS. 
          SO TO DRIVE DOWN OUR, DOWN OUR EMISSIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT THE CLIMATE PLAN, TRIED TO FIND THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE, UH, PROPOSALS, AND, AND AGAIN, WE SAW BENCHMARKING DISCLOSURE AS, AS A KEY STRATEGY. 
          UH, IT REDUCES EMISSIONS IN THE COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY, UH, BUILDING SECTOR, WHICH OVERALL PRODUCES THE LARGEST PORTION OF EMISSIONS FROM BUILDINGS, WHICH BUILDINGS ARE OUR LARGEST, UH, SECTOR OF EMISSIONS. 
          IN TERMS OF BENEFITS, THERE'S A LOT, AND I THINK THAT'S WHY IT MAKES, UM, UH, IS ATTRACTIVE TO, TO US, AND WE ARE MAKING THIS RECOMMENDATION. 
          IT HELPS EDUCATE LARGE PROPERTY OWNERS OF THEIR BUILDING'S ENERGY USE, HOW THEY COMPARE TO, UH, SIMILAR BUILDINGS. 
          SO I, I HAVE AN OFFICE, HOW DO I COMPARE TO OTHER OFFICES? UM, OR IF I HAVE A COLLEGE, HOW DO I COMPARE TO OTHER COLLEGES? IT PROVIDES NEEDED DATA FOR VOLUNTARY ACTION. 
          AND I REALLY WANNA STRESS THIS, THAT THE POLICY AS, AS PROPOSED, DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY PROPERTY OWNER TO TAKE ACTION. 
          UM, UH, WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN, IN THE RESEARCH AND FROM OTHER CITIES IS THE VERY ACT OF, OF BENCHMARKING AND DISCLOSING LEADS TO VOLUNTARY ACTION. 
          UM, IT INCREASES, UH, COMMUNITY AWARENESS, UH, AROUND THE VALUE OF ENERGY AS IT RELATES TO BUILDINGS AND HELPS DRIVE THE MARKET. 
          AND, UM, IT PROVIDES C P S ENERGY AND THE CITY MUCH NEEDED DATA. 
          THIS, WHEN WE SPOKE, SPOKE TO CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS. 
          IN ADDITION TO DRIVING DOWN, UM, UH, ENERGY CONSUMPTION IN THIS SECTOR AND, AND SAVING DOLLARS, THIS WAS REALLY THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT WE HEARD IS UTILITIES. 
          AND CITIES REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THEIR BUILDING STOCK. 
          AND, AND THIS DATA REALLY HELPS THEM FINE TUNE NEEDED SUPPORT OR INCENTIVES, UM, BECAUSE IT HELPS YOU FIGURE OUT WHICH SECTOR, WHICH TYPE OF BUILDING NEEDS, UH, IS NOT PERFORMING AS WELL AS AS OTHERS. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, UM, IT IMPROVES GRID RESILIENCE, IT IMPROVES AIR QUALITY, HELPING US GET BACK INTO ATTAINMENTS, UM, PROVIDES NEEDED INFORMATION, UM, REGARDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, THROUGH A, UH, AN E P A SCORE BETWEEN ZERO AND 100 HELPING INFORM TENANTS. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, IT CAN HELP CREATE JOBS IN THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY SECTOR. 
          SO HERE'S JUST A BRIEF TIMELINE I WANNA WANNA WALK THROUGH. 
          UM, UH, SORT OF HOW WE'VE GOT HERE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST TIME BENCHMARKING, 
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UM, UH, CAME UP WAS IN AUGUST, 2016. 
          IT WAS IDENTIFIED AS A STRATEGY IN THE SA TOMORROW SUSTAINABILITY PLAN. 
          AND THEN AGAIN, IN OCTOBER, 2019, UM, IT WAS ALSO IDENTIFIED AS A, AS A KEY STRATEGY. 
          UM, IN THAT SAME MONTH, UH, WE ESTABLISHED A, UH, BENCHMARKING ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, AGAIN, OF DIVERSE STAKEHOLDERS JUST TRYING TO START THE CONVERSATION TO MAP OUT WHAT THIS IS GOING TO, TO POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE. 
          UM, BUT WE BASICALLY POSTPONED IT DURING COVID. 
          UH, WE REALLY FELT THAT, UM, IF WE WEREN'T MEETING IN PERSON, UH, WE WEREN'T HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE NEEDED. 
          UM, BUT THEN IN AUGUST, 2021, AFTER A, UH, A PERIOD OF, UM, UH, TRYING TO PRIORITIZE WITH THE COUNCIL APPOINTED SA CLIMATE READY ADVISORY COMMITTEES, THEY IDENTIFIED BENCHMARKING AS A, AS A PRIORITY AND ESTABLISHED A SUB SUBCOMMITTEE WITH THE GOAL OF DEVELOPING SOME, SOME DRAFT RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          UM, THE SUBCOMMITTEE HAS MET, UM, UH, FIVE TIMES BETWEEN NOVEMBER OF 2021 AND THIS PAST MAY. 
          UH, WE ALSO LAUNCHED IN FEBRUARY OF THIS MONTH, A WHAT WE CALL THE BENCHMARKING DISCOVERY PHASE. 
          JUST TO, TO TEST THE PROCESS. 
          WE ENLISTED, UM, UH, LOCAL PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, PROVIDED THE NEEDED SUPPORT THAT THEY WOULD GET UNDER A SIMILAR ORDINANCE, UM, AND WANTED TO FIND OUT HOW IT WENT. 
          AND I, I HAVE A COUPLE SLIDES I'LL TALK ABOUT, TALK ABOUT THAT VERY SHORTLY. 
          UM, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE IN MAY, WE, UH, CONVENED THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO REVIEW THE DRAFT ELEMENTS THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT IN A FEW MINUTES. 
          UM, COMPLETED THE DISCOVERY PHASE. 
          AND THEN, UH, KAREN, UH, GU HEAD, UH, UH, BRIEFED THE ESSAY CLIMATE READY ADVISORY COMMITTEES ON THE DRAFT COMPONENTS. 
          OVERALL, THERE WERE SUPPORT, UM, UH, I THINK THEY FOLKS FELT THAT IT WAS A REASONABLE APPROACH, ALTHOUGH THERE WERE A FEW THAT STILL HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT A COUPLE OF THE ELEMENTS, AND I CAN TOUCH ON THOSE IN A MINUTE. 
          AND THEN HERE WE ARE, UM, PROVIDING A BRIEFING TO COUNCIL. 
          UM, WHEN WE PASSED THE, UH, WHEN COUNCIL PASSED THE, THE, THE CLIMATE PLAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE VERY CLEAR WAS BEFORE WE BROUGHT ANYTHING, UM, TO COUNCIL CONSIDERATION THAT THERE WAS ECONOMIC ANALYSIS DONE. 
          UM, AND SO, UH, WE HAD WORKED, UM, WITH A, UM, A THIRD PARTY, UH, CONSULTANTS, UH, WHO LOOKED AT SIMILAR POLICIES, LOOKED AT BEST PRACTICES, UH, LOOKED AT THE, THE, THE PUBLISHED RESULTS, UM, FROM THESE OTHER CITIES, AND DEVELOPED A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS FOR WHAT THIS POLICY WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR SAN ANTONIO IN TERMS OF IMPACTS. 
          AND THROUGH, UH, 20, UH, 50, YOU CAN SEE, UH, FOR EVERY DOLLAR, UM, UH, UH, INVESTED IN THIS PROGRAM. 
          UH, 4 78 IS BACK. 
          UH, THERE'S CONSIDERABLE USER RATE SAVINGS FROM AVOIDED ELECTRIC, UH, ELECTRICITY USE, UM, UH, $360 MILLION IN CARBON EMISSIONS AVOIDED. 
          AND, UM, $70 MILLION IN, IN OTHER AIR POLLUTANT REDUCTIONS. 
          UM, AGAIN, THIS IS BASED UPON VOLUNTARY ACTION. 
          IT'S BASED UPON BENCHMARKING, UH, PUBLIC DISCLOSURE ELEMENT. 
          BUT THE RESEARCH HAS SHOWN, UM, THAT DRIVES, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS TO, TO MAKE CHANGE. 
          AND THEN THIS, JUST THIS GRAPH ON THE RIGHT, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT, UM, UH, FIVE, FIVE, UH, OTHER STRATEGIES IN THE CLIMATE PLAN THAT WE THOUGHT WERE SORT OF GOOD ENTRYWAY POINTS. 
          AND YOU'LL SEE BLUE IS, UM, UH, BENCHMARKING. 
          AND, AND BY FAR, IT, IT HAD THE, THE MOST, UH, GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION POTENTIAL THROUGH 2050. 
          SO JUST BENCHMARKING IS A BEST PRACTICE. 
          UM, THE CITY'S BEEN DOING IT SINCE 2011. 
          UH, THIS IS FROM OUR, UM, UH, OUR, OUR LAST MUNICIPAL, UM, BUILDING ENERGY BENCHMARKING REPORT. 
          UH, THIS COVERS 299 BUILDINGS THAT WE BENCHMARK IN, IN, IN PORTFOLIO MANAGER. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE, UH, THROUGH 2019, UH, WE SAW ABOUT A 25% REDUCTION. 
          AND AGAIN, THIS IS ABOUT USING THE DATA TO HELP INFORM DECISION MAKING. 
          UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE REPORT, WHICH HAS BEEN PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, THERE'S SOME BUILDINGS THAT ARE PERFORMING WELL, SOME BUILDINGS THAT AREN'T, THAT, THAT AREN'T PERFORMING AS WELL AS WE'D LIKE. 
          BUT AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S BEING OPEN, IT'S BEING TRANSPARENT, AND THEN USING THAT DATA TO MAKE INVESTMENTS TO IMPROVE, UM, BUILDING OPERATIONS. 
          AND THEN HERE'S JUST A MAP OF, UH, THERE'S OVER 40 MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS, UH, THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE, UM, UH, SIMILAR, UM, BENCHMARKING ORDINANCES. 
          AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO SEE, UH, WE HAVE SOME, UH, DATA FROM A, A HANDFUL OF THEM, UH, IN TERMS OF RESULTS. 
          UM, THEY SHOW, UM, ENERGY REDUCTION BENEFITS, UH, RANGING FROM 13 TO $21 MILLION IN BILL SAVINGS PER YEAR, UM, AND THREE TO 10% REDUCTION IN ENERGY CONSUMPTION. 
          SO THERE, THERE IS, UM, UH, SOME GOOD FINDINGS THAT, THAT THESE POLICIES ARE LEADING TO, UH, UH, SAVINGS. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, UH, I REALLY WANTED TO SEE HOW OUR PEER CITIES ARE, UM, UH, UH, DOING, PARTICULARLY FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SIDE. 
          SO I HAD ASKED, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF TO SORT OF POINT ME TO WHO WE WERE, WHO THEY'RE BENCHMARKING, UH, AGAINST FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SIDE. 
          AND THEY SHARED ME WITH, WITH A, A LIST THAT, UM, GREATER S A T X IS USING. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THESE ARE JUST THE, THE, OF THAT LIST THAT 
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WAS SHARED. 
          AUSTIN, DENVER, KANSAS CITY, SEATTLE, AND WASHINGTON DC HAVE SIMILAR POLICIES IN PLACE. 
          AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE OUR, OUR, THE EFFICIENCY OF OUR, OUR BUILDING STOCK, BECAUSE AS OTHER CITIES ARE DOING IT, UM, THAT, THAT WE'RE COMPETING WITH, UM, WE NEED TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE. 
          SO IT'S JUST ONE, ONE PERSPECTIVE. 
          I'M NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS, UH, IN MUCH DETAIL, BUT THIS IS JUST A SAMPLE FROM, FROM CITIES, UM, THAT HAVE SIMILAR ORDINANCES. 
          AND I JUST WANT TO TO HIGHLIGHT, UM, SOME COMMONALITIES BETWEEN THEM ALL. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY ALL, THEY ALL COVER GOVERNMENT, COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS. 
          UM, THEY REQUIRE ONCE A YEAR REPORTING, AND THEY HAVE A, A TRANSPARENCY OR A PUBLIC DISCLOSURE ELEMENT. 
          WHAT YOU'LL SEE ON THE RIGHT, THERE'S A, A, A COLUMN THAT SAYS WATER TRACKING. 
          UM, SOME OF THEM REQUIRE WATER BENCHMARKING, OTHERS DON'T. 
          IN, IN CONSULTATION WITH SAWS. 
          UM, YOU, THE, THE DECISION WAS THE DATA REALLY ISN'T AS ROBUST IN PORTFOLIO MANAGER TO REALLY LEAD TO ANY SORT OF, UM, UH, UM, FIRM BENCHMARKING, UH, USING THAT TOOL. 
          SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS NOT TO, UH, INCORPORATE WATER INTO THIS, THIS POLICY. 
          SO THIS IS ALSO KEY. 
          BEFORE I JUMP INTO THE DRAFT POLICY ELEMENTS, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHO'S BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS. 
          AND THIS IS, AGAIN, OVER A TWO AND A HALF YEAR PROCESS. 
          UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT, UM, THIS IS THE LIST OF OF SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS, UH, THAT WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE FULL SA CLIMATE READY ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBERS. 
          UM, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE , WE HAVE, UH, MEMBERS OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, PROPERTY OWNERS, EXPERTS IN BUILDINGS AND ENERGY PERFORMANCE. 
          UM, IT'S CO-CHAIRED BY, BY KAREN GUZZ, AND ESTELLA COTA TREVINO FROM THE SA CLIMATE READY TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL WAS NOT TO FIND, UH, A HUNDRED PERCENT CONSENSUS. 
          THE GOAL WAS TO, UM, FIND THOSE AREAS WHERE THERE WAS AGREEMENT, UM, AND THEN TO DOCUMENT THOSE AREAS WHERE THERE WASN'T AGREEMENT AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THE COMMUNITY AND COUNCIL ARE AWARE OF WHERE THOSE STICKING POINTS ARE. 
          UM, IN TERMS OF STAKEHOLDERS THAT HAVE ENGAGED OVER THIS, THIS TWO, TWO AND A HALF YEAR PROCESS, UM, THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, A LIST OF, OF OF ORGANIZATIONS. 
          THESE, UM, MANY OF THESE SERVE ON, ON, ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          UM, UH, MANY OF THESE HAVE RECEIVED PRESENTATIONS OR INDIVIDUAL BRIEFINGS. 
          UM, I THINK, UH, KEY TO THIS AS FAR AS GOING FORWARD, NEXT STEP IS TO EXPAND THIS, THIS LIST. 
          I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD FOR QUITE A FEW STAKEHOLDERS WAS, UNTIL YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING FOR ME TO LOOK AT, I DON'T WANT REALLY TO, TO TALK TO YOU. 
          SO THE, THE HOPE IS, NOW THAT WE'VE GOT SOME DRAFT ELEMENTS WE CAN SPEND THE NEXT FEW MONTHS EXPANDING THAT, THAT ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, TALK TO THE BROADER, UM, BUSINESS COMMUNITY PROPERTY OWNERS, AS WELL AS THE GENERAL COMMUNITY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE, UM, GET THEIR INPUT PRIOR TO COMING BACK TO COUNCIL WITH ANY FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          SO NOW I'M JUST GONNA WALK THROUGH THE, THE COMPONENTS. 
          AND AGAIN, THIS IS, I APOLOGIZE FOR HOW SMALL IT IS, BUT BASICALLY WE'RE LOOKING AT A, UM, A MULTI-PHASE, UM, ROLLOUT. 
          UH, WE DEFINITELY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE GAVE PROPERTY OWNERS TIME, UH, TO, UM, UH, PREPARE AND, AND, AND ADAPT TO ANY, UM, UH, REQUIREMENTS THAT WAS BE COMING FURTHER DOWN THE, THE ROAD. 
          SO THE FIRST, UM, PHASE IS, IT'S TWO YEARS. 
          UH, IT BASICALLY IS, UH, THE CITY, UM, UH, BENCHMARKING AND PUBLICLY DISCLOSING OUR MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS. 
          AND THEN IT'S VOLUNTARY, UM, FOR ANY OTHER, UM, UH, BUILDING. 
          I THINK OVER THAT TWO YEAR, WE'RE REALLY GONNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE INCENTIVIZING AND REALLY TRYING TO RAMP UP THAT VOLUNTARY PARTICIPATION AS PO AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 
          'CAUSE AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THE IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE, WE, WE DO NEED TO GO AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. 
          UM, THE PHASE TWO IS ONE YEAR WHERE, AGAIN, IT'S MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS, BENCHMARKING AND DISCLOSING, BUT THEN BUILDINGS OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT, UM, JUST BENCHMARK, UH, THEY DON'T NEED TO PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION THAT'S GONNA BE PUBLICLY RELEASED. 
          AND THEN THERE'S NO FINES FOR NON-COMPLIANCE. 
          UM, AND THEN VOLUNTARY CONTINUES. 
          UH, IN THE THIRD PHASE, WHICH IS ALSO A YEAR, AGAIN, IT'S MUNICIPAL, UH, BUILDINGS OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, NOT ONLY BENCHMARK, BUT THEN THERE'S THE FIRST PUBLIC DISCLOSURE COMPONENT, BUT THEN WE FOLD IN BUILDINGS, 50,000 SQUARE FOOT AND ABOVE, UH, AND THEN THEY JUST BENCHMARK ONLY AND THERE'S NO DISCLOSURE, AND THEN THERE'S NO NON-COMPLIANT COMPLIANCE FEE. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, IN THE FOURTH YEAR, WHICH IS FULL IMPLEMENTATION, UH, AGAIN, ALL MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS, AND THEN ALL BUILDINGS OVER 50,000 SQUARE FEET ARE BENCHMARKING AND DISCLOSURE DISCLOSING. 
          THE OTHER THING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IN WITH THIS IS TO MAKE SURE THERE'S EXEMPTIONS. 
          THIS ISN'T MEANT TO BE, UM, UH, UH, UH, A WAY OF, UH, ATTACKING PROPERTY OWNERS. 
          THE GOAL IS TO, TO PROVIDE THAT FOUNDATION TO IMPROVE PERFORMANCE, TO SAVE MONEY, UH, REDUCE EMISSIONS. 
          UM, SO WE LOOKED AT OTHER CITIES, WHAT ARE THE COMMON, UH, EXEMPTIONS THAT THEY USE? AND, UM, HERE'S, 
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UH, SOME THAT WE, WE DISCUSSED WITH THE, WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE, IF A BUILDING DOESN'T HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, IF IT HAS A DEMOLITION PERMIT, IF THEIR OCCUPANCY IS LESS THAN 50%, IF THEY HAVE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING GOING ON, BECAUSE IT'S VERY, YOU KNOW, DIFFICULT TO COMPARE, UH, VERY UNIQUE MANUFACTURING PROCESSES IN ONE BUILDING TO ANOTHER. 
          UM, KEY TO THIS IS GETTING THE, THE RIGHT DATA IN, IN THE RIGHT FORMAT, UM, AGGREGATED WHOLE BUILDING DATA. 
          AND SO IF THEY CAN'T GET THAT, THEY CAN BE EXEMPT, UM, IF THEY'VE GOT A DEMONSTRATED FINANCIAL HARDSHIP, OR THE LAST BUCKET IS IF THERE'S SOME EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES THAT NEED TO BE EVALUATED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. 
          SO, UM, THIS IS WHERE THEY LANDED, BUT I THINK IT'S KEY TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE AREAS OF AGREEMENT AND DISAGREEMENT WERE. 
          UH, THERE WAS AGREEMENT IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE WITH THE BUILDING TYPES, THE SIZES, THE PHASING, THE EXEMPTIONS, UM, AREAS OF DIS DISAGREEMENT, UH, THE ENFORCEMENT AND, UH, THE AMOUNT, UH, OF, OF POTENTIAL FINES, UH, THE PUBLIC DISCLOSURE ELEMENTS, AND THEN DATA SUBMISSIONS. 
          AND WHAT, WHAT KAREN REALLY TRIED TO DO THROUGH THE PROCESS, AND, AND I REALLY, UM, WANNA THANK HER FOR HER, HER EFFORT IS TO TRY TO SORT OF COME UP WITH, WELL, WHAT ARE THE COMPROMISES? UH, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE FOLKS ON THE COMMITTEE WHO WANTED THIS TO BE WAY MORE AGGRESSIVE. 
          UH, AND THEN THERE WERE FOLKS WHO DIDN'T WANT, WANTED ANYTHING. 
          AND SO, UM, THE FIRST THING I JUST WANNA TALK ABOUT VERY BRIEFLY IS THE PHASING. 
          UH, AGAIN, INSTEAD OF ALL THE PROPERTIES, UM, HITTING RIGHT AWAY, UM, UH, RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE, UH, IT, IT'S PHASED IN, AS I DESCRIBED OVER TIME, UM, UH, BY BUILDINGS, BY SIZE, UH, AND THEN THERE'S NO ENFORCEMENT OR FINES IN THAT FIRST YEAR. 
          THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE GROUP WAS, WAS, UM, UH, UH, SUPPORTIVE OF IN TERMS OF THOSE EXEMPTIONS. 
          YOU KNOW, THE KEY WAS THEY GOTTA BE, THEY HAVE TO BE LOGICAL. 
          THERE HAS TO BE THE ABILITY FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO, UM, REQUEST OTHER EXEMPTIONS THAT MAY NOT FIT INTO THAT CATEGORY. 
          SO THAT'S BUILT INTO IT. 
          AND THEN AGAIN, THE IDEA OF, PARTICULARLY FOR MULTI-TENANT BUILDINGS WITH LOTS OF, UH, TENANTS, MAKING SURE THE DATA IS AVAILABLE, WE DON'T WANT PROPERTY OWNERS TO HAVE TO GO GET 50 TENANTS TO GIVE THEM THEIR DATA. 
          UM, SO THIS WILL BE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH C P S AS OTHER UTILITIES HAVE DONE, CREATING THAT DATA SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS FOR, UH, IZED WHOLE BUILDING DATA TO JUST BASICALLY BE ENTERED INTO THE, UH, PORTFOLIO MANAGER TOOL RIGHT AWAY. 
          SO IT REALLY UNDOES ANY SORT OF BURDEN FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER GATHERING THAT DATA. 
          AND THEN, UM, THE FINAL THING, UH, IS AGAIN, IT'S THAT PUBLIC DISCLOSURE, UH, AND, AND DATA. 
          AND, AND KEY TO THIS IS REALLY, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S SOME BASIC INFORMATION THAT IS, IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. 
          AND SO, UH, THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF DATA THAT GOES, GOES INTO A PORTFOLIO MANAGER. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT OTHER CITIES, THEY PUBLISH EVERYTHING. 
          UM, WE ARE ONLY REQUESTING, UM, UH, VERY, VERY LI LIMITED INFORMATION. 
          THE ADDRESS, THE FLOOR AREA, UH, THE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, AND THE TOTAL ENERGY USE. 
          NONE OF THAT WILL BE ON ANY SORT OF PUBLICLY FACING WEBSITE. 
          THE ONLY THING THAT WE WOULD BE PROPOSING TO MAKE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE WOULD BE A ENERGY STAR SCORE OF 50 OR ABOVE. 
          AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD FROM FOLKS, IS WE DON'T WANNA BE SHAMED. 
          AND WHAT A FEW CITIES HAVE DONE IS THERE'S REALLY NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SCORE OF 10 AND AND, AND 40. 
          UH, IT WOULD JUST SHOW UP AS THEY HAVE COMPLIED. 
          UM, BUT WE DEFINITELY WANNA HIGHLIGHT THOSE THAT ARE R 50 OR ABOVE. 
          UM, THE OTHER REAL KEY THING ABOUT THIS IS THIS DOES REQUIRE PROVIDING SUPPORT TO PROPERTY OWNERS. 
          UH, A LOT OF LARGE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE ALREADY DOING THIS, UM, BUT THERE'S A LOT WHO, WHO AREN'T. 
          AND SO, CITIES SET UP THESE HELP DESKS AND PROVIDE TRAININGS WHERE DURING THAT REPORTING PERIOD, ONCE A YEAR, UH, THERE IS SOMEBODY THAT, UM, CAN BE, UH, TAPPED INTO TO PROVIDE RESOURCES AND SUPPORT ON HOW TO SET UP MY ACCOUNT, HOW TO MAKE SURE MY DATA IS IN THERE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL HAVE TO BE A KEY PART OF THIS PROCESS. 
          THE OTHER KEY THING IS IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT BENCHMARKING. 
          UH, IT'S ABOUT TAKING ACTION AND IMPROVING THE BUILDINGS. 
          AND SO PART OF THIS PROGRAM, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE TYING FOLKS TO THE OPPORTUNITIES ASSOCIATED WITH PROPERTY ASSESSED CLEAN ENERGY FUNDING, UM, REBATES THROUGH C P S OR OTHER PROGRAMS, AND FINALLY SEEING WHAT WE CAN FIND ENERGY AUDIT SERVICES THAT PROPERTY OWNERS COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ONCE THEY BENCHMARK, GET SOMEBODY IN THERE TO TAKE A WALK THROUGH THEIR BUILDING TO GIVE THEM THAT LIST OF WHAT THEY CAN DO TO START IMPROVING PERFORMANCE. 
          AND FINALLY, WE WANNA RECOGNIZE OUR TOP PERFORMERS. 
          I'LL GO BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT THE DISCOVERY PHASE. 
          UM, THIS, THIS PILOT, THESE ARE THE NINE, UM, UH, PROPERTIES, UH, THAT WE, WE WORKED WITH OVER A A TWO YEAR PERIOD. 
          AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THESE PROPERTIES RANGE FROM 30,000 TO, TO 750,000. 
          UM, AND THEY, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD A, A LOCAL TEST WITH A GROUP OF FOLKS, MOST OF WHOM HAD NEVER TRIED PORTFOLIO MANAGER TO SEE HOW IT GOES, TO FIND OUT HOW HARD IT WAS TO TEST THE SUPPORT SERVICE THAT WE ESTABLISHED WITH BUILT SAN ANTONIO GREEN, OUR, OUR LOCAL GREEN BUILDING PARTNER. 
          AND IT WENT REALLY WELL. 
          UM, UH, WE HEARD OVERALL THAT, THAT IT WAS, IT WASN'T TOO HARD. 
          IT TOOK ANYWHERE FROM SIX TO EIGHT HOURS TO BENCHMARK 
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THE BUILDING. 
          UM, IT, THE INFORMATION THAT WAS REPORTED WAS, WAS FOUND TO BE VALUABLE AND, AND HOPEFULLY WAS GOING TO LEAD THEM TO MAKING, TAKING NEXT STEPS. 
          AND SO THIS IS JUST A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED TO THEM AS A, AS A THANK YOU. 
          AND YOU'LL SEE THIS BUILDING IN PARTICULAR RECEIVED A, UH, A 52 OUT OF A HUNDRED, WHICH IS JUST ABOVE, ABOVE, UM, MEDIUM ON THE RIGHT. 
          IT SHOWS THE OVERALL PORTFOLIO OF, UM, OF ENERGY USE OVER, UH, OVER THAT PERIOD. 
          AND THAT ALSO IN VERY SMALL PRINT PROVIDES SOME RECOMMENDATION, RECOMMENDED NEXT STEPS, WHETHER IT'S LIGHTING RETROFITS OR, OR HVAC IMPROVEMENTS. 
          BUT, UM, THIS WAS A, I THINK, A SUCCESSFUL TEST, UM, THAT THAT BENCHMARKING AND A HELP DESK SUPPORT SYSTEM CAN BE EFFECTIVE. 
          SO I'M, I'M GONNA END ON JUST A, A, A QUICK SUMMARY TO GO THROUGH SOME, SOME BULLETS. 
          I JUST A KEY TAKEAWAYS. 
          UM, THERE'S A VOLUNTARY PHASE, UM, FOR THE FIRST TWO YEARS, UH, AND THEN, UM, IT BECOMES MANDATORY AFTER THAT, AND IT'S PHASED IN OVERTIME. 
          IT'S, UH, DOES NOT REQUIRE PROPERTY OWNERS TO MAKE ANY INVESTMENTS IN THEIR BUILDINGS. 
          UH, PROPERTY OWNERS RECEIVE TECHNICAL SUPPORT TO ASSIST FOR COMPLIANCE. 
          UH, THERE'S EXEMPTIONS IN PLACE TO ADDRESS, UM, CASES WHEN COMPLIANCE IS DIFFICULT. 
          UM, ONLY LIMITED AND NON-CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION WILL BE MADE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. 
          AND ANY COMPETITIVE OR CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION CAN BE REQUESTED TO BE WITHHELD ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. 
          UM, AGAIN, PROPERTY OWNERS WILL HAVE ACCESS TO INCENTIVES AND PACE FINANCING FOR IMPROVEMENTS. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE ASKED, WE, WE ASKED OTHER CITIES, UM, WERE THERE INCIDENCE INCIDENCES OF COORDINATED SHAMING OR, UM, COORDINATED OPEN RECORD REQUESTS? UM, AND THE RESPONSE THAT WE GOT THAT NO, NOBODY PROVIDED US ANY REPORTS OF THAT. 
          UM, IT'S NOT THAT IT COULDN'T HAPPEN, SO I'M NOT GONNA SAY IT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN, BUT WE COULDN'T, NOBODY COULD TELL US THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS A PROBLEM. 
          UM, LOOKING AT OUR BUILDING STOCK, THERE'S ABOUT 2100 BUILDINGS THAT, UH, ARE ABOVE THAT 50,000 THRESHOLD. 
          IF WE FOLD IN INSTITUTIONAL AND MUNICIPAL, IT'S PROBABLY CLOSER TO, TO, TO 2300. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, AGAIN, FOR EVERY DOLLAR, THERE'S, UM, 400, 7, 400, 400 $4, AND 78 CENTS GAINED FOR EVERY DOLLAR INVESTED IN THIS, IN THIS PROGRAM. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL ACKNOWLEDGE CLIMATE CHANGE IS HERE. 
          WE NEED TO FIND THE BEST PATHWAY FOR SAN ANTONIO TO REDUCE ENERGY CONSUMPTION AND IMPROVE RESILIENCE. 
          UH, IT REQUIRES US TO LOOK FORWARD AND NOT BACKWARDS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE ADDRESS THIS. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, BUILDING ENERGY BENCHMARKING AND DISCLOSURE FOR LARGE BUILDINGS IS A COST-EFFECTIVE FOUNDATIONAL CLIMATE POLICY THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN TO ACCELERATE ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND EMISSION PRODUCTION. 
          AND WITH THAT, UH, JULIA AND I, AND KAREN, UM, UH, AND OTHERS ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. 
          YES. 
          RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UH, DOUG AND JULIA FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          LET ME FIRST START BY THANKING, UH, YOUR TEAM AND THE SA READY CLIMATE, UH, COMMITTEES WHO ARE HERE, UH, REPRESENTED FOR YOUR WORK, UH, AS WELL AS OUR BLOOMBERG TEAM, UH, FROM AMERICAN CITIES CLIMATE CHALLENGE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT OVER THE YEARS. 
          UH, JUST A QUICK, UH, RECAP OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN. 
          UM, THIS PROCESS REALLY STARTED IN EARNEST BACK IN 2017 WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION THAT PAVED THE WAY FOR THE, UH, ASSEMBLY OF A CLIMATE PLAN THAT WAS FINALLY RATIFIED IN 2019 AS PART OF THAT 2019 PLAN DUG, AS YOU POINTED OUT, THROUGH A SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          UH, AND WE'VE BEEN BUSY IMPLEMENTING OR, OR PREPARING TO IMPLEMENT A NUMBER OF THEM. 
          UM, BUT JUST AS A MOMENT OF REFLECTION FOR A MINUTE, HERE WE ARE, UH, AT THE BEGINNING OF JUNE. 
          I DON'T THINK WE'RE ACTUALLY IN SUMMER YET, AND WE'RE ABOUT TO ENDURE 10, 11 DAYS STRAIGHT OF A HUNDRED PLUS DEGREE WEATHER. 
          I THINK IT'S 106 ON SATURDAY, Y'ALL. 
          SO GET YOUR SHORTS OUT. 
          UM, SO WE DON'T NEED TO BE REMINDED ABOUT THE IMPACTS THAT WE'RE ALREADY SEEING LOCALLY OF A CHANGING CLIMATE HOTTER DAYS, UH, MORE HOT DAYS, UH, MORE SIGNIFICANT, UH, SEVERE WEATHER, UH, AND CHALLENGING, UH, AND STRESSING ALL OF OUR SYSTEMS. UH, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT WITH A NUMBER OF MAYORS, UH, ABOUT 10 OR 11 OR SO FROM NORTH AMERICA AND LATIN AMERICA OVER YESTERDAY AT THE SOMEBODY OF THE AMERICAS. 
          AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE GLOBAL CLIMATE CHALLENGE. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A GLOBAL CHALLENGE OF WHICH AMERICA UNFORTUNATELY HAS ITS FAIR SHARE OF 15% OR MORE OF GLOBAL GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. 
          SO WHILE IT IS A GLOBAL CRISIS, IT'S ALSO A LOCAL ONE, AND IT'S INCUMBENT UPON LOCAL COMMUNITIES TO DO SOMETHING IF WE'RE EVER GONNA GET OUR, OUR HANDS AROUND THIS AND LEAVE A BETTER PLANET FOR OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN, A SUSTAINABLE ONE. 
          BUT WHAT WAS INTERESTING AROUND THE TABLE IN THAT FORUM WAS THE FACT THAT WE ALL IDENTIFIED THE GREATEST CHALLENGES TO OUR CLIMATE BEING POVERTY AND HUNGER AND ECONOMIC INSECURITY. 
          THE 
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ONLY COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD THAT ARE BEGINNING TO IMPLEMENT STRATEGIES RELATED TO CLIMATE ARE THOSE THAT HAVE STABLE DEMOCRACIES. 
          AND THE GREATEST THREAT TO THAT IS ECONOMIC INSECURITY. 
          AND SO I WANT TO FIRST JUST, UM, PAUSE FOR A MINUTE AND, AND RECOGNIZE THE WORK THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT HERE RELATED TO HOW WE ADDRESS ISSUES OF POVERTY IN OUR OWN COMMUNITY, HOW WE, UM, ENSURE, UH, EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A GOOD JOB, FOR AN EDUCATION, UH, FOR A SUSTAINABLE, SAFE ROOF OVER THEIR HEADS. 
          THAT WORK IS FUNDAMENTAL TO OUR ABILITY TO ADDRESS, UH, THE CHANGING CLIMATE. 
          AND IF WE TAKE OUR EYE OFF THE BALL ON THAT, WE CAN KISS ALL OF OUR GLOBAL CLIMATE GOALS GOODBYE. 
          AND SO, UH, ON OTHER DAYS WHEN, UH, WE'RE HERE TALKING ABOUT READY TO WORK, OR PRE-K FOR SA OR THE ALAMO PROMISE, OR ANY NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO ADDRESS HOUSING AND AFFORDABILITY, I WOULD ASK US ALL TO CONSIDER THAT IN THE CONTEXT OF OUR GLOBAL CRISIS. 
          IF WE DON'T ADDRESS ECONOMIC INSECURITY IN OUR OWN BACKYARDS, WE ARE DESTABILIZING THE PUBLIC SECTOR AND GOVERNMENTS AND THEIR ABILITY TO ACTUALLY ADDRESS WHAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT CRISIS OF OUR TIME. 
          UM, BUT HERE WE ARE ON OUR IMPLEMENTATION OF, OF THE CLIMATE PLAN, AND WE HAVE THREE AREAS THAT WE WANNA LOOK AT, UH, THE FIRST BEING, UM, OUR ENERGY TRANSITION. 
          AND WE KNOW HOW MASSIVE A LIFT THAT IS, AND PROBABLY THE CLEAREST EXAMPLE OF HOW, UH, IF WE DON'T ADDRESS AREAS OF ECONOMIC INSECURITY, OUR, OUR GREATEST, UM, GOOD INTENTIONS WILL ALSO FALL HARDEST ON THOSE WHO ARE MOST VULNERABLE TO THE COST OF IT. 
          UH, AND WE'RE DOING THAT GOOD WORK RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S GONNA BE CHALLENGING, AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO PUSH FORWARD AS FAST AND AS REASONABLY AS WE CAN. 
          THE SECOND ONE, OBVIOUSLY, IS OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS. AND I KNOW THERE'S A COUPLE SLIDES IN THERE, AND I WOULD CHALLENGE US, UH, TO MOVE AGGRESSIVELY TOWARDS EV INFRASTRUCTURE IN OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL AS FLEET CHANGE. 
          AND I KNOW WE'RE DOING THAT, BUT I THINK WE CAN DO, UH, EVEN MORE IN THE COMING YEARS, UH, ESPECIALLY AS WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW, UH, TO IMPROVE OUR EV INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND TOWN. 
          UM, BUT THE ONE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MOSTLY HERE TODAY, BENCHMARKING IS REALLY AROUND THE OTHER, THE THIRD PILLAR OF OUR CLIMATE STRATEGY AROUND THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT. 
          UH, THIS WAS IDENTIFIED AS A, AS AN IMPORTANT, UH, PILLAR STRATEGY IN THE 2019 PLAN. 
          UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH A SERIES OF STAKEHOLDERS THROUGH, UH, ASSEMBLING A POLICY THAT MADE SENSE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD DRAFT POLICY NOW THROUGH SOME COMPROMISES. 
          DOUG, YOU, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING HERE THAT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. 
          UH, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE IS AN OUTCOME. 
          UM, AND THAT IS FOR BUILDING OWNERS, UM, TO UNDERSTAND THEIR CARBON FOOTPRINT, THE, THE, THE EMISSIONS THAT THEY HAVE, WHICH ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO THEIR ENERGY COSTS, GIVE THEM, GIVE THEM THE INFORMATION THEY NEED TO REDUCE THEIR DEMAND AND INCREASE THEIR SAVINGS, WHICH IS GOOD FOR EVERYBODY, UM, IN THIS DRAFT ORDINANCE. 
          UM, CAN YOU TALK TO ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, HOW THAT INFORMATION WOULD PROVE USEFUL FOR A BUILDING OWNER? IS OUR INTENT HERE TO, AS YOU SAID, SHAME FOLKS INTO, YOU KNOW, A, A, A BIG CARBON FOOTPRINT AND, AND THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, PLASTER THEM ALL OVER THE BILLBOARDS AND SAY, SHAME ON YOU? OR IS IT TO GIVE FOLKS INFORMATION TO HELP THEM SAVE MONEY AND TO REDUCE OUR, OUR OWN ENERGY DEMAND? YEP. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION, MAYOR. 
          UM, YES, THE SHAM SHAMING IS NOT, UM, UH, UH, IS NOT PART OF THIS BY, BY ANY MEANS. 
          UM, I THINK IT'S, IT'S ABOUT ENSURING THAT PROPERTY OWNERS, PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE ACCESS TO BASIC INFORMATION. 
          UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT PORTFOLIO MANAGER SCORE. 
          UH, THE THING THAT'S SO IMPORTANT ABOUT THAT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY HAVE A BUILDING THAT YOU THINK IS, IS DOING GREAT, BUT SUDDENLY I CAN SEE HOW I COMPARE AGAINST SIMILAR TYPE BUILDINGS, UH, AND REALIZING I'M EITHER AHEAD OF THE CURVE OR I'M BELOW THE CURVE, MAYBE I SHOULD BE INVESTIGATING, UH, TO DO SOMETHING. 
          UM, THE, ALSO, THE OTHER ISSUE IS, UM, AGAIN, FROM OUR OWN EXPERIENCE AS A, AS A, AS AN ORGANIZATION WITH OUR WORK WITH BENCHMARKING, AS WELL AS, UM, THE EXPERIENCE THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GATHER FROM OTHER CITIES WHO'VE BEEN DOING, UM, SIMILAR WORK WITH PROGRAMS LIKE THIS SINCE AS FAR BACK AS 2009, IS JUST THE SIMPLE ACT OF BENCHMARKING AND, AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOUR SCORE IS LEADS TO THAT VOLUNTARY ACTION. 
          SO, SO, AND, AND IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH, UM, STAKEHOLDERS, NOBODY WAS CONTESTING THE VALUE OF, OF BENCHMARKING. 
          I THINK, UM, WHERE, AND THIS IS WHERE SOME OF THE NEGOTIATIONS AND, AND COMPROMISES WHERE, WHERE KAREN WAS TRYING TO, TO, TO MOVE US, IS IT REALLY IS THAT DISCLOSURE 
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PART THAT, AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE, UM, SOME PEOPLE WERE, WERE VERY UNEASY. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE THE COMPROMISE OF TRYING TO SAY, UM, WE'RE NOT PUTTING EVERYTHING OUT. 
          UM, WE, WE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS CAN BE A MARKET QUEUE, UM, UH, BUT IT'S JUST THE, IT'S JUST THE NUMBER. 
          UH, IT'S, AND THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE HEARD AND AGREED A HUNDRED PERCENT FROM STAKEHOLDERS IS THERE NEEDS TO BE CONTEXT TO THE NUMBER. 
          IT'S NOT JUST A NUMBER. 
          AND SO WHEN WE START PUTTING THIS INFORMATION OUT, UM, WE NEED TO PROVIDE, UH, SOME MORE UNDERSTANDING WHAT ARE THE SPECIAL ASPECTS OF THAT BUILDING THAT MAY BE CAUSING IT TO HAVE THIS, THIS SCORE. 
          SO WE'RE IN A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREEMENT THAT IT'S NOT ENOUGH JUST TO, IT'S JUST PUT A SCORE. 
          WE NEED TO PUT IT INTO CONTEXT FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          BUT THE COMBINATION OF MAKING SURE ALL PROPERTY OWNERS ARE BENCHMARKING, UM, WITH THAT SMALL DISCLOSURE PART, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE RECIPE TO, TO SEE, UM, THE REDUCTIONS THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, IN, IN ADDITION TO, UM, HAVING THAT DATA BE USEFUL TO A PROPERTY OWNER, I HOPE WE CAN LOOK FOR WAYS TO COUPLE THAT DATA OR, OR, OR, OR THAT, UM, SET OF BUILDINGS THAT, THAT MAY BE IN, IN NEED OF, OR, OR WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME MITIGATION OF THE ENERGY DEMAND, UH, WITH PROGRAMS THAT WE ACTUALLY CAN DO THAT, WHETHER IT'S PACE OR IT'S, UH, OTHER KINDS OF COMMERCIAL WEATHERIZATION PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE THROUGH C P S OR ANY OTHER AREA. 
          I KNOW THERE'S, UH, FEDERAL GRANTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR WEATHERIZATION OF COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. 
          I, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD SEEK WAYS IN THE INTERIM AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS FIRST PHASE, UM, AT WAYS WE CAN COUPLE THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE PROGRAM WITH REAL INCENTIVE TO REDUCE THEIR OWN COSTS AND REDUCE ENERGY DEMAND. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. 
          I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT'S SO, UM, UH, IMPORTANT ABOUT A POLICY LIKE THIS IS, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT'S THE DATA THAT'S CREATED. 
          IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT, AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S AGGREGATED DATA. 
          YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, WE DON'T NEED TO LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE, UM, UH, COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS IMPACT. 
          BUT IF WE CAN START AGGREGATING DATA TO SAY, OKAY, WELL, HOW ARE CERTAIN TYPES OF OFFICE BUILDINGS PERFORMING? HOW ARE CERTAIN MULTI-FAMILY BUILDINGS PERFORMING? UM, IS THERE A GEOGRAPHICAL DISCREPANCY BETWEEN BUILDING PERFORMANCE? SO IT PROVIDES THE CITY AND THE UTILITY, THE ABILITY TO MAKE BETTER DECISIONS, UH, AS FAR AS HOW THEY'RE USING THOSE DOLLARS TO, UM, UH, INCENTIVIZE AND IMPROVE PERFORMANCE ACROSS THE COMMUNITY. 
          GREAT. 
          WELL, UM, ANYBODY CAN LOOK AT THEIR C P S BILL RIGHT NOW AND, AND KNOW THAT, UM, THE FUEL CHARGES IN THE GAS INDUSTRY, UH, ARE CREATING STRESS FOR EVERY PROPERTY OWNER, WHETHER A HOMEOWNER OR, OR A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNER. 
          SO THAT DATA CAN PROVE VERY USEFUL FOR THE BOTTOM LINE, AND WE HOPE WE CAN DO THAT. 
          SO, UM, AS WE MOVE ALONG, I HOPE WE CAN GET SOME REPORTS BACK ABOUT HOW THAT IS WORKING, HOW WE'RE CONNECTING PEOPLE, UH, TO THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO, TO IMPROVE THEIR BUILDINGS AND, AND REDUCE THEIR COSTS. 
          I DO WANT TO THANK ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS WHO HAVE BEEN PART OF THIS. 
          I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME SHARP COMPROMISES, GOOD DEBATES, UH, BUT I THINK WE'VE LANDED IN A GOOD PLACE NOW. 
          AND, UM, I ALSO WANNA THANK COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL, WHO COULD NOT BE HERE FOR OBVIOUS REASONS, UH, FOR HER STEWARDSHIP OF THE PROCESS AS WELL. 
          IT'S BEEN A, IT'S BEEN A HARD DIALOGUE AT TIMES, BUT I'M, I'M PLEASED THAT WE COULD COME TOGETHER WITH, UH, WITH A POLICY THAT WORKS, UH, BUT ALSO ACHIEVES THE, THE OVERALL GOAL, UH, THAT WE INDICATED BACK IN 2019. 
          SO, UH, WITH THAT, LET ME TURN IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES. 
          WE'LL START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          BRAVO. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          AND, UH, THANK YOU JULIE AND DOUG FOR THAT PRESENTATION. 
          UM, I DO FEEL LIKE ONE OF, ONE OF MY, UH, STAFF MEMBERS MIGHT HAVE SHARED, UH, A LOT OF MY TALKING POINTS WITH THE MAYOR 'CAUSE HE HIT A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT. 
          UM, BUT WE HAVE SOME ALIGNMENT HERE CLEARLY. 
          UM, I WANT TO START BY SAYING THAT I JUST GOT ON THE, THE, UH, WEBSITE WEATHER.COM, AND, UH, SAW THAT THE HIGH TODAY IS 101 DEGREES, THE HIGH TOMORROW, 101 FRIDAY, 1 0 3, SATURDAY 1 0 6, SUNDAY 1 0 7, MONDAY 1 0 5, TUESDAY 1 0 2. 
          AND SO I, I WANT TO ASK ALL OF MY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHEN THEY SPEAK TODAY, TO, TO LET US KNOW WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE ACTIVITY TO DO WHEN IT'S OVER A HUNDRED DEGREES? AND I'LL START, MY FAVORITE ACTIVITY WHEN IT'S OVER A HUNDRED DEGREES IS TO STAY INSIDE IN THE AIR CONDITIONING. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO THINK OF MYSELF AS YOUNG, BUT, UH, I CAN'T HANDLE THE HEAT LIKE I USED TO, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE AND MORE OF THESE DAYS, AND THAT'S A BIG PART OF WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT. 
          UM, AND I WANNA JUST HAMMER THAT HOME A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR MENTIONED PARIS CLIMATE AGREEMENT RESOLUTION. 
          WE'RE TWO WEEKS AWAY FROM THAT FIVE YEAR ANNIVERSARY. 
          AND SO WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED INTO IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THIS STUFF. 
          AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, UM, 
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YOU KNOW, THIS IS, I'M GLAD THAT, THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE'RE MOVING IN THIS DIRECTION, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO DO MORE, AND WE NEED TO, UM, WE NEED TO TAKE MORE ACTION. 
          UM, AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT I HEAR FROM, UH, NONPROFITS THAT INVEST IN COMMUNITIES ON CLIMATE CHANGE ACTIVITIES THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT SOME OF THEM AREN'T GONNA INVEST IN SAN ANTONIO ANYMORE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DOING ENOUGH. 
          UH, I, I WANNA ALSO TALK ABOUT HOW DOES THIS FIT IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN US BUILDING A WORLD CLASS COMPETITIVE CITY. 
          AND I, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES PEOPLE WHO, UH, ARE, WHO REPRESENT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY ARE OPPOSING THINGS LIKE THIS. 
          AND I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A BIGGER CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT DOES, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT LOOK LIKE? AND I THINK ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO HAVE, UH, A TALENT SET WHO, YOU KNOW, ARE SKILLED AND THEY CAN CHOOSE TO LIVE ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. 
          WHY DO THEY CHOOSE TO LIVE IN SAN ANTONIO? AND I KNOW THOSE PEOPLE CARE ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY. 
          THEY CARE ABOUT COMMUNITIES THAT ARE TAKING ACTION ON CLIMATE. 
          THEY CARE ABOUT COMMUNITIES THAT ARE FOCUSED ON ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND ON URBAN HEAT ISLAND EFFECT. 
          UM, AND SO I THINK THAT'S A BIGGER CONVERSATION WE NEED TO HAVE SO THAT PEOPLE AREN'T RESISTING SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE GONNA CREATE WHAT SAN ANTONIO'S GLOBAL BRAND IS AND WHAT MAKES US A WORLD CLASS COMPETITIVE CITY. 
          UM, AND SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS, MAYOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER BRAVO, COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY, GOING EARLY THIS TIME. 
          DOUG, COME ON UP. 
          AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          THANKS FOR THE, UH, UH, SIT DOWN WITH ME THE OTHER DAY. 
          UM, LET'S GO BACK INITIALLY ON THAT FIRST PRESENTATION SLIDE, SLIDE NUMBER THREE ON THAT FIRST PRESENTATION. 
          OKAY? OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I'VE BEEN ASKING THIS SINCE THE VERY FIRST, UH, PLAN CAME OUT, UM, WHERE IN THAT PLAN, IT, IT MADE COMMENTS THAT IT WAS GONNA COST THIS CITY TRILLIONS UPON TRILLIONS. 
          IF WE DIDN'T IMPLEMENT THIS PLAN, IT WAS GONNA COST US, BUT WHAT IS IT THAT IT'S GONNA COST US TO IMPLEMENT THE PLAN? I'VE NEVER SEEN ANY KIND OF FIGURES OR ESTIMATES ON THAT. 
          AND THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE RIGHT NOW WHERE IT'S TALK THAT THAT LINE IS GOING DOWN DRAMATICALLY. 
          NUMBER ONE, I DON'T THINK THAT'S EVER GONNA HAPPEN HERE IN SAN ANTONIO BECAUSE OF THE TRANSPORTABLE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE HERE. 
          AND NUMBER TWO, ALONG WITH THAT LINE, WE SHOULD BE TRANSPARENT WITH A PUBLIC WHAT KIND OF COST PROJECTIONS WE'RE GONNA HAVE ON REDUCING THAT LINE. 
          THERE'S NUMBERS OUT THERE, AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THAT. 
          IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION, WELL THEN THE BENCHMARKING WITH THESE OTHER CITIES SHOULD HAVE THAT KIND OF INFORMATION OUT THERE. 
          SO I'M STILL ASKING FOR THAT INFORMATION, AND AT SOME POINT IN TIME, IT WOULD SURE BE GREAT TO SEE THAT, UH, HOW MUCH THIS PLAN IS GONNA COST US IN FUTURE DOLLARS TO TAKE IT ALL DOWN, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 2050 WHERE IT SAYS CARBON NEUTRAL. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO THAT REQUEST IS STILL ON THE TABLE, DOUG. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UH, OKAY. 
          LET'S GO TO THE NEXT, NEXT BRIEFING. 
          UH, IT SAYS, UH, SLIDE NUMBER FOUR. 
          I, I, I LOOK AT THAT ON, OKAY. 
          I UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS BENCHMARK MARKING ORDINANCE IS ABOUT. 
          WHICH, BUT YOU HAD THAT LAST, UH, I'M, I'M SORRY, COUNSEL, WHICH ON THE NEXT PRESENTATION. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          IS IT, UM, THE ONE WITH THE GRAPH? THE GRAPH? NO, THIS IS, IT SAYS WHAT, WHAT IS A BENCHMARK MARKING ORDINANCE? OKAY. 
          AND IT SAYS SLIDE NUMBER FOUR. 
          GOT IT. 
          ONE MORE BEFORE. 
          GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THE LAST COMMENT DOWN THERE, IT SAYS, PROVIDES THE CITY AND C P S ENERGY, MUCH NEEDED DATA TO BETTER TARGET RESOURCES TO THOSE BUILDINGS AND AREAS MOST IN NEED OF IMPROVEMENT. 
          NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S STILL NOT THE RIGHT SLIDE. 
          NUMBER FOUR, I GUESS I GOT A QUESTION. 
          WHO IS IN A BETTER PLACE TO KNOW WHAT ENERGY CONSUMPTION IS IN THIS CITY, UH, BY, EVEN BY FACILITY? WELL, IT'S C P S I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DON'T HAVE THE DATA TO BEGIN WITH ON, ON THIS KIND OF REQUIREMENT THAT ANYBODY COULD REACH INTO. 
          SURE. 
          THE BUILDING OWNERS, YOU KNOW, 
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THE CITY, C P S, ANYBODY? SURE. 
          SO C P S HAS, UM, BUILDINGS BROKEN DOWN BY, UM, BY, UM, TARIFF. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND, UM, THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT BUILDING PERFORMANCE. 
          THEY DON'T KNOW IF ONE BUILDING IS MORE EFFICIENT OR, OR, UH, THAN ANOTHER. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE THIS FEDERAL TOOL THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR 20 YEARS, UM, IS VERY SOPHISTICATED. 
          IT ALLOWS PROPERTY OWNERS TO INPUT ATTRIBUTES ABOUT THEIR BUILDING. 
          UH, IT'S WHAT TYPE OF BUILDING, HOW LARGE IT IS, WHAT ARE MY HOURS OF OPERATION, MY EMPLOYEES NUMBER OF COMPUTERS. 
          UM, IT ALLOWS THEM TO GET A WHOLE PICTURE OF HOW THAT BUILDING IS ACTUALLY USING THAT ELECTRICITY. 
          AND NOT ONLY GIVES YOU A SCORE, BUT IT GIVES YOU AN ENERGY USE INTENSITY, WHICH IS THE AMOUNT OF POWER BEING UTILIZED PER SQUARE FOOT. 
          C P S DOESN'T HAVE ANY OF THAT, SO THEY CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT CLASS OF BUILDING IS MORE EFFICIENT THAN ANOTHER. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, I, I GUESS I WOULD NEED TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS TO CCPS. 
          OH, AB, ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND I WOULD DON'T TAKE YES. 
          DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT'LL. 
          I'LL CERTAINLY DO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ON SLIDE NUMBER FIVE, THEN, WHY SAN ANTONIO NEEDS AN ENERGY BENCHMARKING ORDINANCE? AND I GUESS THIS GOES BACK TO THE CORE QUESTION. 
          ARE WE SAYING THAT BUSINESSES DON'T KNOW HOW TO OPERATE THEIR BUSINESS AND THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAVE MONEY AND HOW TO CONSERVE ENERGY WITHIN THEIR BUILDINGS? AND WHY IS A GOVERNMENT STEPPING INTO THAT ROLE INTO PRIVATE BUSINESSES OUT THERE TO TELL THEM YOU NEED TO REDUCE YOUR ENERGY. 
          UH, IF NOT, WE'RE GONNA PUT YOUR NAME OUT THERE, WE'RE GONNA FINE YOU AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO MAKE YOU COMPLY WITH IT. 
          I, I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT APPROACH. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , THAT'S GOVERNMENT GETTING INTO PRIVATE BUSINESSES BUSINESS. 
          SURE. 
          THEY KNOW HOW TO OPERATE THEIR BUSINESS. 
          THEY KNOW WHERE THEY NEED TO PUT THEIR RESOURCES, AND WE SHOULD NOT BE AS A GOVERNMENT TELLING BUSINESSES HOW TO OPERATE ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS. 
          UH, SO THIS WHOLE CONCEPT, NUMBER ONE, IT IT'S OFFENSIVE TO ME AND, AND I DARE SAY THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AS WELL, WHERE WE'RE GONNA STEP IN AS A CITY GOVERNMENT AND TELL THEM HOW TO OPERATE THEIR BUSINESS. 
          SO THAT'S JUST A SHOT OVER THE BOW ON THIS THING. 
          IF THIS IS GONNA BE A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM THROUGH, IN, THROUGHOUT AND FOREVER, I ABSOLUTELY PUT IT OUT THERE. 
          AND IF THEY WANT TO USE IT, USE IT. 
          YOU KNOW, BUT THEY DETERMINE WHAT'S BEST FOR THEM SURE. 
          AND HOW THEY ARE MANAGING THEIR BUSINESS. 
          THEY HAVE TO MAKE A PROFIT AND, AND STAY IN BUSINESS FOR SAN ANTONIO. 
          I LOOK AT THIS ON A MUCH BROADER SCALE. 
          YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE EXAMPLES OF CITIES, UH, THAT YOU HAVE THAT HAVE THESE PROGRAMS, THEY HAVE WELL ESTABLISHED BIG BUSINESS INDUSTRIAL BASES AND THAT KIND OF THING. 
          WHAT DOES SAN ANTONIO HAVE? WE DON'T HAVE THAT. 
          WE'VE GOT 95, 90 6% OF OUR BUSINESS BASE HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, OR SMALL BUSINESSES. 
          WE'VE GOT A HANDFUL OF LARGE BUSINESSES HERE THAT THEY GET HIT UP WITH ALL THE TIME FOR DONATIONS AND HELPING AND, AND THAT KIND OF THING ACROSS THE CITY. 
          SO IF I'M ONE OF THESE BIG BUSINESSES AND I LOOK AT SAN ANTONIO, OH, WELL, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE IMPLEMENTING THIS PLAN TOO. 
          I THINK I'LL GO TO ANOTHER CITY THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE, THIS TYPE OF THING THAT'S GONNA PUT MY NAME OUT THERE SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE AND MAYBE EVEN FIND ME BECAUSE I'M NOT, I'M NOT GOING ACCORDING TO THE TI UH, REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY. 
          SO THAT ON A BIGGER SCALE IS WHERE, WHERE I'VE GOT PROBLEMS WITH ON THOSE. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND, AND THANK AND THANK YOU. 
          AND THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE SPOKE OF LAST TIME. 
          UH, JUST AGAIN, FOR SOME, SOME OTHER CONTEXT. 
          YOU KNOW, THOSE CITIES THAT YOU MENTIONED WITH LARGE INDUSTRIAL BASES, INDUSTRIAL IS EXEMPTED GENERALLY FROM THIS AND, AND LOOKING AT OUR BUILDING PORTFOLIO. 
          IT IS, IT'S NOT UNLIKE OTHER, OTHER CITIES. 
          I, I THINK IN TERMS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, WHY WE'RE DOING IT, UM, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WHEN WE, UH, LOOK AT AGGREGATED DATA AS FAR AS WHO IN OUR COMMUNITY IS, IS ALREADY BENCHMARKING, UM, IT'S ABOUT 35% OF BUILDINGS, UH, OVER 50,000 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS OKAY, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO GET US TO THOSE EMISSION REDUCTION GOALS THAT COUNCIL SET. 
          I, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S THE KEY. 
          WHAT ARE THE TOOLS IN OUR TOOLBOX THAT ARE REASONABLE, THAT ARE GOING TO HELP, UH, UH, MOVE THE NEEDLE WITHOUT BEING BURDENSOME? UH, THE OTHER THING IS THERE'S PLENTY OF EXEMPTIONS, UH, ALLOWED FOR THIS. 
          UM, IT'S NOT ABOUT SHAMING, UM, THE LARGE, THE OTHER THING ABOUT THIS IS LARGE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE DOING IT. 
          THEY, THEY'RE DOING IT. 
          THEY, THEY UNDERSTAND IT. 
          'CAUSE THERE'S A BUSINESS CASE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S 
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AN EQUITY PERSPECTIVE. 
          IF I'VE GOT A BUILDING THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT A LARGE PROPERTY OWNER, I MAY NOT EVEN BE AWARE OF, OF THE OPPORTUNITIES OR I MAY NOT HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL. 
          WHAT THIS PROGRAM DOES, IT SAYS, YEAH, YOU HAVE TO DO IT, BUT WE'RE GONNA PROVIDE YOU THE SUPPORT AND THE RESOURCES, NOT ONLY TO BENCHMARK, BUT TO UNDERTAKE IMPROVEMENTS, TO IMPROVE EFFICIENCY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IT'S THE GREATER OF GOOD. 
          THANK YOU, DOUG. 
          I GOT A LOT MORE HERE, SO BEAR WITH ME. 
          UH, SLIDE NUMBER 10, WE GO INTO THIS TRIPLE BOTTOM LINE ANALYSIS. 
          UM, WHERE DID THESE FIGURE, THESE DIDN'T COME FROM SAN ANTONIO, DID THEY? WHERE DID THESE FIGURES COME FROM? NO, THIS IS BASICALLY, THESE ARE SAN ANTONIO SPECIFIC. 
          UM, IT'S, UH, A CONSULTANT WHO SPECIALIZES AT EVALUATING POLICIES AND PROGRAMS, UH, TO DETERMINE, UM, WHAT NOT JUST THE COST IS FOR IMPLEMENTING THE PROGRAM, BUT WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS? WHAT ARE THE AIR QUALITY BENEFITS? AND IT'S THROUGH, IT'S THROUGH 2050. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND THEN, AND WE CAN, WE CAN SHARE WITH YOU THAT THE FULL REPORT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          IN THAT COLUMN ON THE LEFT, WHAT DOES BENCHMARKING COMPLIANCE MEAN? THAT BASICALLY IS, WAIT, LET, LEMME GO BACK. 
          SLIDE NUMBER 10, BENCHMARKING COMPLIANCE. 
          OH, I THINK IT'S A, SO IT MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT PRESENCE. 
          YOU GOT A SCHEDULE ON THE LEFT AND A CHART ON THE RIGHT. 
          YEAH, THAT MIGHT BE, THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A PREV. 
          SO BENCHMARKING COMPLIANCE WOULD BE, I'M TRYING TO, UM, THAT BASICALLY IS, UM, THE TIME NEEDED FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER TO BASICALLY SET UP THE ACCOUNTS, ENTER IN THE DATA ANNUALLY, UM, AND, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE UNDERTAKING. 
          UM, UM, I HAVE TO, I, I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN. 
          I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND PULL UP THE DOCUMENT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I, I WANNA KNOW WHAT BENCHMARK COMPLIANCE. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          NO, THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION. 
          I ALSO WANNA KNOW WHAT, UM, UNI MUNICIPAL ADMINISTRATION MEANS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I'M GONNA HAVE TO CHIME BACK IN. 
          THANKS. 
          MUNICIPAL ADMINISTRATION, UM, WOULD REQUIRE SOME SORT OF ADMINISTRATION OF THE PROGRAM. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I, I GOT A LOT MORE, DOUG. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE ROTARY BENCHMARK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I REALLY ENJOYED THAT, UH, THAT DIALOGUE. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          I'LL START OFF WITH, UM, THE SAME SLIDE THAT COUNCILMAN PERRY, UH, BROUGHT UP. 
          SLIDE THREE. 
          THE PRESENTATION SHOWS THAT, UM, WE'VE REDUCED TOTAL GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS BY ABOUT 0.2% BETWEEN 16 AND 19. 
          YET WE EXPECT A 40% REDUCTION BY 2030 AND 71% BY 2040 ON THE ROAD TO CARBON NEUTRALITY BY 2050. 
          NOW, UM, BEFORE THE CAPITALS ADOPTED, BEFORE EFFORTS ON ENERGY BENCHMARKING REALLY RAMPED UP. 
          THAT'S WHAT THIS IS, THAT'S WHAT THAT 0.2% IS MEASURING. 
          I'M WONDERING THAT IF WE DON'T CONTINUE DOWN THE SAME, SAME PATH AND WE DON'T AGGRESSIVELY PURSUE OUR HIGH IMPACT STRATEGIES, HOW WILL THE CITY AND HOW WELL OUR FAMILIES BE IMPACTED? I'M INTERESTED IN THE COST AS WELL, BUT THE COST TO OUR FAMILIES. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I THINK THE, THE FIRST THING I WOULD JUST WANNA MENTION IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT PATHWAY, UM, NO CITY HAS A STRAIGHT A STRAIGHT LINE. 
          UH, THERE'S GOING TO BE TIMES WHEN, UH, EMISSIONS ARE UP AND THEN TIMES WHEN EMISSIONS ARE DOWN. 
          IT'S MORE OF THE, THE PATHWAY, UH, GENERAL PATHWAY WE WANT TO SEE, UM, UH, UH, GOING DOWN TOWARDS 2050, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE IMPACT TO FAMILIES. 
          THAT'S REALLY SORT OF THE BIG QUESTION. 
          AND, AND THAT'S, AND I THINK, UM, WHEN I FIRST STARTED WORKING IN, IN CLIMATE YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY WHERE CLIMATE SCIENTISTS AND PUBLIC HEALTH PROFESSIONALS WERE HESITANT TO SORT OF MAKE ANY MAJOR STATEMENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS EVENT WAS DUE TO CLIMATE CHANGE OR THAT THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          AND IT'S A DIFFERENT TIME NOW. 
          I, I THINK THERE'S CLEAR SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS, THERE'S CONSENSUS IN THE PUBLIC HEALTH COMMUNITY THAT, UH, CLIMATE CHANGE IS GOING TO BRING ABOUT DETERIORATED AIR QUALITY, MORE EXTREME HEATS, UM, UH, MORE SEVERE FLOODING, MORE DISRUPTIONS TO, UM, OUR ECONOMY, TO, UM, UM, TO, UM, UH, TO, IT COULD IMPACT MOBILITY. 
          I MEAN, BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT I THINK WE ARE FACING NOW ON OUR CHALLENGES IS ONLY GONNA BE EXASPERATED BY THE IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE. 
          AND SO THE QUESTION IS ALWAYS, HOW DO YOU PUT A DOLLAR AMOUNT ON THAT? AND, AND THAT IS, IS ALWAYS THE CONSTANT CHALLENGE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US IS GONNA BE IMPACTED, BUT ESPECIALLY, UM, ESPECIALLY FAMILIES WITH OLDER HOMES AND AREAS OF TOWNS THAT DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TREES AND FOLKS WHO WORK OUTDOORS LIKE LANDSCAPERS AND CONSTRUCTION WORKERS. 
          AND SO I'M WONDERING ON HOW WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT THESE FAMILIES DON'T SUFFER DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE. 
          AND I KNOW THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT IS VERY SMALL AND THAT IT HAS TO WORK WITH A NUMBER OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS, BUT ARE THERE ANY, UM, ANY EFFORTS OR INITIATIVES OR PROGRAMS THAT YOU THINK HAVE BEEN SUBSTANTIAL IN ADDRESSING THAT NEED? YEAH, THERE'S, AND THERE'S QUITE A, QUITE A FEW. 
          AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT, WE ARE SMALL AND, AND OUR JOB IS TO COLLABORATE, UM, 
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WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS. 
          I WOULD POINT TO, UH, UH, THE PARKS, UM, EQU TREE PROGRAM AGAIN, USING, UH, THE EQUITY MATRIX TO FIGURE OUT WHERE ARE, UH, WE DEFICIENT IN TREES IN THOSE KEY NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          I THINK THE COOL PAVEMENT PILOT IS A HUGE OPPORTUNITY. 
          UH, LA AND PHOENIX ARE LEADERS, AND THEY'RE, AGAIN, USING EQUITY TO DRIVE WHERE TO PUT THIS COOL PAVEMENT. 
          AND WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THAT PICTURE, IT'S ONE LITTLE PIECE THAT'S NOT A LOT. 
          BUT WHAT LA AND PHOENIX ARE DOING IS ASSEMBLING, UM, A LOT OF PAVEMENT IN, IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAS BEEN SHOWING TO REDUCE HEAT. 
          UM, I THINK, UH, CONTINUING WITH UNDER ONE ROOF, I THINK, UM, UH, I THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES. 
          I THINK THE ONE THAT'S MOST EXCITING RIGHT NOW IS THE WORK OF, UM, OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AROUND RESILIENCE HUBS, UM, BECAUSE THAT, THAT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO PROVIDE DIRECT, ONGOING, UM, UH, RESOURCES AND SUPPORT, UM, AS WELL AS CRITICAL INFORMATION, UH, AND, AND, UM, SUPPORT DURING SEVERE EVENTS. 
          SO I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT, UM, GOING ON RIGHT NOW THAT I THINK WE, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT I'M HAPPY WITH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND THE REASON I ASK IS I'VE BEEN, OH, I'M SORRY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          UM, COUNCILMAN, UH, UH, DAVID MCCURY REMINDED ME, AND THEN STEP, STEP 2.0 IS A, IS A HUGE OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP PROVIDING RESOURCES TO OUR, OUR, UM, OUR, OUR BIRD AND FAMILIES TO IMPROVE THE EFFICIENCY OF THEIR HOMES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THE REASON I ASK IS THIS PRESENTATION IS TIMELY WHERE IN THE MIDDLE OF BUDGET DISCUSSIONS, AND WE'RE ABOUT TO BEGIN THE PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS. 
          AND SO I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU ABOUT THE PROGRAMS THAT EXIST THAT HAVE BEEN REALLY IMPACTFUL AND PROGRAMS THAT EXIST IN OTHER CITIES THAT MAYBE WE COULD TRY. 
          AND I WAS VERY GRATEFUL THAT THE COOL PAVEMENT PROGRAM STARTED IN DISTRICT TWO, AND I HOPE TO SEE OTHER PROGRAMS START IN DISTRICT TWO. 
          UH, I ANSWER COUNCILMAN BRAVO'S QUESTION. 
          HE SAID, WHAT IS THE ONE OF THE ACTIVITIES YOU LIKE TO DO OUTSIDE WHEN IT'S A HUNDRED PLUS DEGREES? AND I LOVE TO GO TO THE POOL, UM, OUTSIDE OF MY FIELD OFFICE IS LINCOLN PARK, AND WE HAVE THE POOL OVER THERE, BUT IT'S NOT COVERED. 
          AND SO I, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO ASK FAMILIES TO GO OUT AND BRING THEIR KIDS AND TAKE PART IN THIS BEAUTIFUL AMENITY THAT EXISTS WHEN THERE'S NO COVERING, AND THEY CAN BURN THEIR FEET ON THE CONCRETE. 
          AND SO I WOULD LIKE US TO THINK ABOUT OUR FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE AND THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE, AND HOW CAN WE MAKE THEM MORE USER-FRIENDLY AS WE ADAPT TO CLIMATE CHANGE. 
          THE NEXT BIT IS GONNA BE ABOUT SPRUCE COAL PLANT. 
          MY FAVORITE TOPIC, . 
          UH, WE HAVE A GOAL TO CLOSE SPRUCE COAL POWER PLANT BY SOMETIME THIS CENTURY, I'M SURE. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WORKING ALONGSIDE THE RATE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, WE SHOULD HAVE A, A PLAN COMPLETED BY THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          UM, WHAT IMPACT WOULD THE CLOSURE OF THE SPRUCE COAL POWER PLANT HAVE ON SAN ANTONIO'S TOTAL EMISSIONS OF GREENHOUSE GASES? HMM. 
          ME ASK, UH, I SAY ANGELA RODRIGUEZ FROM CPS. 
          DID YOU HAVE ? THANK YOU. 
          HELLO. 
          HOPEFULLY YOU CAN HEAR ME. 
          UM, SO THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          SO AS YOU MENTIONED, WE'LL BE WORKING THROUGH THE RATE ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO MAKE A DECISION ON SPRUCE ONE AND SPRUCE TWO AND SOME OF OUR OTHER AGING NATURAL GAS PLANTS BY THE END OF THIS YEAR. 
          UM, BUT THROUGH OUR FLEXIBLE PATH, ONE OF THE CHARTS WE'VE BEEN SHOWING SINCE 2018 IS THAT THERE ARE, THERE IS A PATHWAY TO MEET THAT 41% REDUCTION BY 2030 AND THE 70% REDUCTION BY 2040. 
          UM, AND THAT WOULD HAVE SPRUCE ONE CLOSING DOWN AT THE END OF 2028, AND THEN THE DECISION ON SPRUCE TWO WOULD STILL BE A DECISION THAT WOULD NEED TO COME LATER. 
          UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF THE, THERE IS A PATHWAY TO MEET THOSE INTERIM TARGET REDUCTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I WOULD LIKE, UM, MORE SPECIFIC NUMBER. 
          I WOULD LIKE THE NUMBERS LATER. 
          I THINK IT'S LIKE THE ACTUAL TONS OF C O TWO MM-HMM. 
          , I CAN GET YOU THAT. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S SIGNIFICANT FOR THE RATE ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO HAVE AS WELL, IS THEY'RE WEIGHING THE PROS AND CONS AND THE TIMELINE OF SHUTTING DOWN SPROSS AND THE RATES. 
          AND I THINK IT'S, I THINK THAT IS VERY CRITICAL AND SIGNIFICANT INFORMATION TO HAVE. 
          AND SO IF WE CAN GET, UM, GET THAT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, UM, RELATING TO THE BENCHMARK ORDINANCE, I WANNA THANK COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL FOR HER LEADERSHIP AND ADVOCATING FOR OUR CITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND THAT CONCERNS THAT . 
          SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A 100% VOLUNTARY PROGRAM FOR FIVE YEARS, FOR TWO YEARS, FOR TWO YEARS, OKAY. 
          UM, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHAT'S MOST EFFECTIVE FOR REDUCING GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, SOME OF THE STAKEHOLDERS BELIEVE IT'S MORE REASONABLE, UM, TO HAVE THIS VOLUNTARY PERIOD. 
          I'M CONCERNED THAT WE ARE NOT, AND THIS GOES BACK TO MY ORIGINAL COMMENTS ABOUT IF WE'RE NOT IMPLEMENTING OUR HIGH IMPACT STRATEGIES, HOW ARE WE GOING TO ACHIEVE 
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OUR GOALS? I UNDERSTAND WHAT FEELS REASONABLE IN THE NOW. 
          UM, BUT I THINK WHEN PEOPLE THINK OF CLIMATE CHANGE AND THEY THINK ABOUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE END OF THE WORLD BECAUSE OF CLIMATE CHANGE, PEOPLE THINK IT'S GONNA BE LIKE 2012, I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL IN 2012, AND THERE WAS THIS WHOLE THING, THE WORLD WAS GONNA END. 
          AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE LIKE THAT WITH THIS, RIGHT? WE'RE GONNA SEE A DETERIORATION IN THE QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          WE'RE GONNA SEE ANIMAL POPULATIONS GO EXTINCT. 
          WE'RE GONNA SEE FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, AND THOSE WHO ARE MARGINALIZED, THEY'RE GOING TO EXPERIENCE SHORTER LIFESPANS AND SO MUCH QUICKER THAN THE WORLD WILL CEASE TO EXIST. 
          WE'RE GOING TO SEE GREATER IMPACTS TO COMMUNITIES. 
          AND SO I WANT US TO BE VERY MINDFUL OF THAT'S THE COST THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY DID A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS OF SIX DIFFERENT CLIMATE ACTION STRATEGIES. 
          AND I'M WONDERING HOW MUCH IMPACT CAN WE MAKE WITH THE CURRENT, UH, BENCHMARK ORDINANCE AND HOW DOES IT COMPARE TO THE OTHER CLIMATE ACTION STRATEGIES? SO WHEN WE IDENTIFIED THOSE FIRST STRATEGIES, UM, WE WERE LOOKING, AND I HATE USING THE TERM LOW HANGING FRUIT, BUT WE WERE, WHAT ARE THOSE STRATEGIES THAT WE THINK WILL HAVE THE, UM, THE LEAST, AT LEAST, UM, CREATE THE LEAST UNCOMFORT, UM, FOR, FOR THE COMMUNITY? AND SO THINGS LIKE, UM, EV AND SOLAR READINESS, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION. 
          UM, A WHITE ROOF, UH, REQUIREMENT, WHICH HELPS, UH, REDUCE, UH, ENERGY DEMAND. 
          UM, SO WE, WE CAME UP WITH THOSE, THOSE STRATEGIES, UH, AND INCLUDE BENCHMARKING JUST BASED UPON BEST PRACTICE, BASED UPON TALKING TO OTHER COMMUNITIES. 
          AND, UH, AGAIN, WHEN, YOU KNOW, THE REASON WHY BENCHMARKING IS SO IMPACTFUL, IS IT, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE SECTOR. 
          IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, LARGE BUILDINGS, UM, USE THE, THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF, OF ENERGY. 
          I THINK RESIDENTIAL ALSO USE A LOT OF ENERGY, NOT AS MUCH AS AS COMMERCIAL, BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE COST EFFECTIVENESS OF TARGETING, UM, A COUPLE OF THOUSAND BUILDINGS AND TRY TO HELP THEM, UH, IMPROVE COMPARED TO EVERY SINGLE HOME. 
          SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CHALLENGE, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO DO IT ALL. 
          UH, WE NEED TO CONTINUE AND IMPROVE, UM, UH, THE PERFORMANCE OF EXISTING H UH, UM, UH, HOUSING. 
          BUT IT'S ALL ABOUT WHERE DO YOU, WHERE DO YOU START TO GET THAT BIGGEST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK? THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU, DOUG, FOR THE, THE PRESENTATION AND, UH, FOR COUNCILMAN ANAS SANDOVAL FOR LEADING, UH, ON THIS INITIATIVE. 
          AND GRATEFUL TO SEE SOME OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND EXPERTS IN THIS FIELD, LIKE DIDI AND GREG, UM, WHO HAVE BEEN, UH, PUSHING, UH, THIS INITIATIVE FORWARD AS WELL. 
          UM, I WANNA CONTINUE TO EMPHASIZE RIGHT, WHAT FOLKS HAVE ALREADY TOUCHED ON, THAT WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO EXPERIENCE EXTREME WEATHER CONDITIONS. 
          AND WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF MULTIPLE CRISES, NOT EVEN, UH, INCLUDING C OVID 19, RIGHT? ENVIRONMENTAL, ECONOMIC AND HOUSING. 
          AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AND A RESPONSIBILITY TO CONNECT THOSE CRISES TO BRING US OUT OF IT, RIGHT? AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IS CONNECTING ESSAY READY WORK TO, UH, DECONSTRUCTION ORDINANCE. 
          AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IS, UH, REDUCING THAT CARBON EMISSION, UH, EMISSION FOOTPRINT AS WELL AS, UH, THE WASTE THAT GOES INTO THE LANDFILL. 
          UM, SO I THINK I FEEL THE URGENCY, UM, I'M SURE EVERYONE DOES APPEAR RIGHT, THAT WE NEED TO MOVE BEYOND RHETORIC, RIGHT? AND INTO THE PRACTICE OF THESE POLICY INITIATIVES. 
          UM, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IS THAT THIS CONVERSATION HAS STARTED IN 2016, AND WE NEED ACTION NOW, WHICH INCLUDES THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE VISION PUT FORWARD, UH, IN THE SA TOMORROW SUSTAINABILITY PLAN, AND TO MOVE FORWARD WITH MEETING THE GOALS OF THE SA CLIMATE READY PLAN. 
          UM, WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO EXPERIENCE THESE EXTREME WEATHER CONDITIONS, RIGHT? AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE EMPHASIZE THAT THIS CAN POTENTIALLY IMPACT OUR, OUR, UM, ACCESS TO FOOD RIGHT, TO OUR PRODUCE, UM, IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO EXPERIENCE THIS EXTREME HEAT, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE FIRES THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT OUR PRODUCE. 
          SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO TAKE ACTION NOW. 
          AND I BELIEVE IT'S OVERDUE. 
          THIS PROCESS STARTED IN 2016, AND WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO OUR FAMILIES, OUR COMMUNITY, AND THE NEXT GENERATIONS, UH, TO IMPLEMENT THIS BENCHMARKING POLICY. 
          I'M PLEASED TO HEAR THAT THERE'S BEEN AN EXTENSIVE DIALOGUE WITH A NUMBER OF STAKEHOLDERS AND THAT WE HAVE COME TO A MIDDLE GROUND. 
          UM, AND OF COURSE, RIGHT, NOT EVERYONE'S GOING TO GET WHAT THEY WANT, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE WANT OUR CHILDREN AND THE NEXT GENERATION TO HAVE ACCESS TO QUALITY, AIR, WATER, SO ON AND SO FORTH. 
          UM, WHEN I LOOK AT SLIDE 17, CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH, UM, THE TRIPLE BOTTOM LINE ANALYSIS THAT WAS CONCLUDED, UH, THAT BENCHMARKING WOULD PUT US ON TRACK TO MEET OUR CLIMATE GOALS? UH, DID THAT ANALYSIS EXAMINE A MANDATORY PROGRAM OR A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM? IT'S, UM, IT UTILIZED A, A MANDATORY PROGRAM. 
          UH, AGAIN, IT'S, UH, IT WAS MODELED ON OTHER, UH, CITIES 
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REQUIRING ONCE A YEAR, UM, BENCHMARKING AND A, UH, A PUBLIC DISCLOSURE ELEMENT, BUT NOT REQUIRING ANY MANDATORY IMPROVEMENTS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          AND THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH AMERICAN CITY'S CLIMATE CHALLENGE, IT SAYS THAT THE CITY WILL QUOTE TO THE BEST OF ITS ABILITY TO PURSUE A BENCHMARKING ORDINANCE IF WE DON'T ADOPT A MANDATORY ORDINANCE. 
          UH, DO WE FAIL THAT CHALLENGE? NO, NO. 
          THERE WAS, I, IT WAS, IT WAS NON-BINDING. 
          I, I A HUNDRED PERCENT AM CONFIDENT THAT WE'VE MET THE OBLIGATIONS OF THAT AS FAR AS DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO, TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN YOU REMIND ME, UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          CAN YOU REMIND ME OF SOME OF THE CONCERNS, UH, WITH THE BENCHMARKING ORDINANCE THAT YOU ALL HAVE HEARD FROM STAKEHOLDERS? YEAH, I THINK THE, THE, BASICALLY IT'S VOLUNTARY VERSUS MANDATORY. 
          UM, I THINK THERE WERE SOME STAKEHOLDERS WHO BELIEVE IT SHOULD JUST NOT, NOT BE, UH, REQUIRED. 
          UM, I THINK THERE WAS CONCERNS ABOUT ANY SORT OF TRANSPARENCY, UM, PUTTING ANY, UM, ANY BUILDING PERFORMANCE SCORE OUT REGARDLESS WHETHER IT'S 50 OR ABOVE, OR WOULDN'T LIKE TO SEE ANYTHING. 
          AND THEN THERE WAS, UM, CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, POTENTIAL, UM, DATA THAT'S ENTERED INTO PORTFOLIO MANAGER, UH, POTENTIALLY BEING, UM, PUBLICLY RELEASED. 
          UM, WE'VE SPOKE TO E P A, THEY JUST DON'T RELEASE ANY INFORMATION. 
          THEY HAVE A SIMILAR, UM, OPEN RECORDS RE RECORDS REQUEST PROCESS THAT'S VERY ONEROUS. 
          UM, THEY WILL NOT RELEASE, UH, ANY PROPRIETARY, UH, INFORMATION. 
          IT JUST REQUIRES A PROCESS. 
          BUT I THINK THOSE ARE THE, THE REAL MAIN ONES. 
          AND THEN I THINK THAT THE OTHER ONE THAT CAME UP WAS, I THINK CONCERNS ABOUT COST, UH, THAT, THAT THIS IS GOING TO LEAD, UM, TO THEM HAVING TO MAKE IN IMPROVEMENTS ON THEIR BUILDING. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , UM, WITH THE, THE CONCERNS AROUND COST AND IMPROVEMENTS, IS THAT CONNECTED TO CITY CODE OR IS THERE ANY POLICY TO GIVE CONCERN ABOUT THE COST OF IMPROVEMENT? OR IS IT JUST A, A GENERAL CONCERN? I THINK THERE'S NOTHING ASSOCIATED WITH, WITH THIS POLICY, UH, THAT WOULD REQUIRE THAT. 
          I THINK THE, THE CONCERN, UM, IS, UH, THERE'S THREE OR FOUR CITIES RIGHT NOW THAT HAVE SORT OF MOVED BEYOND BENCHMARKING INTO SOMETHING CALLED BUILDING ENERGY PERFORMANCE STANDARDS. 
          UM, AND THAT, UH, BASICALLY ARE STARTING TO SET TARGETS FOR, FOR DIFFERENT BUILDING TYPES TO, TO REDUCE. 
          SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN THAT THIS IS, AND THAT'S THE LEAD TO THAT. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T, I CAN'T THINK OF WHAT, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR WHAT FUTURE COUNCILS OR WHAT THE SITUATION'S GONNA BE, BUT THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED NOW. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I, I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, I, I WANNA EMPHASIZE, RIGHT, WHEN WE LOOK TO BOSTON, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH, UH, MAYOR MICHELLE, WHO SHE'S ESTABLISHED SIMILAR INITIATIVES, UM, AND HAS A OFFICE OF A GREEN NEW DEAL, UM, WHEN WE LOOK TO, UM, PENNSYLVANIA, RIGHT? THEY'VE HAD AN ORDINANCE TO IMPLEMENT A DECONSTRUCTION ORDINANCE. 
          SO, UM, I'M HOPEFUL WITH THE DIALOGUE AND CONVERSATIONS THAT I'M HEARING UP HERE, AGAIN, MOVING FROM RHETORIC AND INTO THAT PRACTICE OF THOSE POLICIES THAT AREN'T LONG OVERDUE. 
          UM, AND I AM, I ALWAYS HAVE CONCERN AND ISSUE WHEN, UH, WE USE PUBLIC DOLLARS TO CONDUCT STUDIES, AND THEN WE FAIL TO IMPLEMENT THOSE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          SO I BELIEVE IT'S FISCALLY IRRESPONSIBLE TO FAIL TO IMPLEMENT THESE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE PUBLIC DOLLARS PAID TO, TO CONDUCT. 
          UM, SO I, I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS MOVING FORWARD AND APPRECIATE YOUR BRIEFING. 
          THANK YOU, DOUG. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO, COUNCIL MEMBER PALS. 
          UM, JUST A, A COUPLE THINGS. 
          NO PARTICULAR ORDER, UH, I SAW IN ONE OF YOUR SLIDES, I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE THAT ONE OF THE BENEFITS OR INCENTIVES LISTED IN YOUR SLIDE DECK IS ACCESS TO PACE FINANCING. 
          OOH, THAT SHOULDN'T BE A, THAT, THAT'S, I THINK THE, THAT SHOULDN'T BE A, THAT'S, THERE'S NOT A CLEAR, UM, UH, PACE WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ACCESSIBLE FOR SOMEBODY TO, BUT THEY DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH BENCHMARKING TO GET PACE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE THAT, THAT, THAT'S GONNA, I WAS GONNA GET PHONE CALLS ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT WE WORKING WITH. 
          NO, IT'S MORE, IT'S MORE, IT'S MORE, IT'S A NICE, IT'S A, IT'S, IT WOULD BE AVAILABLE ONCE, YOU KNOW, BUT ANYBODY CAN DO IT. 
          SO I LOVE, BY THE WAY, I LOVE PACE. 
          UH, I THINK IT'S JUST GENIUS AND IT'S WORKS BEAUTIFULLY. 
          AND SO FOR COUNCIL, AND WE DON'T HAVE THE DETAILS, BUT WE DID CHECK BEFORE THIS, THERE WAS A FEW OTHER, UM, PROPERTIES PERCOLATING. 
          UM, SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WE'LL GET SOME OTHER PROJECTS CLOSED. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, YOU, YOU SAY YOU SHOWED US SLIDE 17, IF WE CAN SEE SLIDE 17, PLEASE. 
          UM, I WROTE IT DOWN WHEN YOU SAID IT, THAT THESE ARE NUMBERS BASED ON VOLUNTARY ACTION AND SHOWED A MAP. 
          UM, AND THERE WAS FOUR OR FIVE CITIES LISTED THERE. 
          UM, AND WHAT I, WHAT I HEARD WHEN YOU SAID THESE ARE BASED ON VOLUNTARY ACTION, IS THAT THESE WEREN'T MANDA THESE NUMBERS WERE ACHIEVED NOT BY MANDATORY REPORTING, BUT BY VOLUNTARY PARTICIPATION IN THE INCENTIVE. 
          SO WHEN I HEAR THAT, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT, UM, THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO HIT THESE NUMBERS AND THAT THESE NUMBERS 
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WEREN'T ACHIEVED BY, BY A MANDATORY SCHEME, UH, UNDER THREAT OF FINES. 
          SO WHAT I, WHAT I MIGHT'VE MISSPOKE IF THAT'S WHAT I HAD SAID, AND I APOLOGIZE. 
          UM, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE GRAPHIC THAT SHOWED THE, UM, THE, THE FINANCIAL SAVINGS AND THE ENERGY REDUCTION FROM THESE CITIES, YEAH, THOSE WERE ALL THOSE, I APOLOGIZE. 
          SO THOSE WERE, THOSE WERE ALL UNDER MANDATORY BENCHMARKING ORDINANCES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I APOLOGIZE. 
          SO REALLY, MY, MY HEARTACHE ON THIS ONE IS THAT I HAVE YET TO SEE, AND MAYBE I MISSED IT DURING THE PRESENTATION 'CAUSE I WAS, I WAS TYPING, AND, UH, IS THERE A SIDE-BY-SIDE COMPARISON OF CITIES WHO, UH, HAVE A VOLUNTARY VERSUS A MANDATORY BENCHMARKING ORDINANCE? AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SHOWING THAT THESE CITIES WITH MANDATORY HAVE MUCH HIGHER NUMBERS OF SUCCESS. 
          WHY? WHATEVER METRIC YOU SHOW, I DON'T, AND, UH, IF, IF I CAN PAUSE IL, ARE YOU HERE? DO WE KNOW, I'M SORRY. 
          ADE CHOW, HE'S OUR CLIMATE ADVISOR. 
          ARE THERE ANY CITIES THAT HAVE VOLUNTARY? I, I DON'T, I THINK ALL OF EVERYONE ON THAT LIST THERE ARE ALL, ALL MANDATORY, BUT ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY VOLUNTARY, UM, UH, I BELIEVE THERE ARE ONE OR TWO CITIES THAT HAVE, UH, VOLUNTARY, UH, BUT ANY POLICY THAT THAT'S OUT THERE, ALL ALL HAS ALL HAVE, UM, MANDATORY DISCLOSURE AS PART OF THE POLICY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO COUNCILMAN, WE CAN PULL THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER, CAN PULL IT. 
          I MEAN, THANK YOU. 
          AND I, AND I, I THINK ALL OF US WOULD BENEFIT FROM THAT BECAUSE I MEAN, IF, THAT'S THE BIG DEBATE HERE, RIGHT? WHETHER OR NOT VOLUNTARY IS JUST AS GOOD AS MANDATORY. 
          AND, UM, I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S LIKE THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM HERE, AND THAT SLIDE WOULD'VE BEEN KEY, RIGHT? I MEAN, FOR US TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING, UM, THAT IS NECESSARY OR NOT. 
          AND SO, I MEAN, WHATEVER THESE ONE OR TWO CITIES ARE, I'D LIKE TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE ACHIEVING SIMILAR NUMBERS WITHOUT HAVING TO THREATEN THEIR BUSINESSES WITH FINES AND HAVING TO GO TO MUNICIPAL COURT FOR NON-COMPLIANCE. 
          AND SO WE CAN GET THAT FOR YOU. 
          UM, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, ALONG THOSE LINES, I THINK EVERYBODY HERE IS A STUDENT OF POLICY. 
          UM, AND THERE'S NO, NO SERIOUS POLICY MAKER WHO WILL TELL YOU THAT YOU ACHIEVE THE BEST RESULTS WITH A, YOU KNOW, A, UM, AN UNDER DURESS SCHEME VERSUS A PUBLIC ENTHUSIASTIC PARTICIPATION SCHEME. 
          RIGHT? UM, AND THAT YOU GET THE BEST DATA AND YOU GET MORE AUTHENTIC BUY-IN WHEN YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE GUNS UP TO PEOPLE'S HEADS, UM, ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY COMPLY. 
          AND SO, UM, I I, I'LL BE STRAIGHT UP WITH YOU. 
          I'M, I'M NOT GONNA VOTE ON THIS IF IT, IF THERE'S A MANDATORY COMPONENT TO IT. 
          UM, I, I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE WAY YOU TREAT YOUR PARTNERS. 
          AND, UM, I THINK THAT WE HAVE A EXCELLENT, UM, GROUP OF PARTNERS LIKE H E B, LIKE FROST BANK, LIKE THE UNIVERSITIES WHO WOULD PROBABLY RUN TO PARTICIPATE IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS WITHOUT US HAVING TO THREATEN THEM TO DO IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, AND I, UM, I, I DID HEAR YOU SAYING, I WROTE THIS ONE DOWN. 
          UM, THIS IS GONNA GIVE C P S MUCH NEEDED DATA. 
          SO YESTERDAY WHEN YOU AND I SPOKE, I ASKED YOU WHETHER OR NOT C P S HAD REQUESTED THIS MUCH NEEDED DATA. 
          AND WHAT Y'ALL TOLD ME WAS THAT NO, ACTUALLY THEY DIDN'T. 
          AND THAT IN FACT, UH, WHEN IT WAS PRESENTED TO THEM THAT THEY WERE KIND OF RELUCTANT ABOUT REQUESTING THIS MUCH NEEDED DATA. 
          AND SO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT C P SS YOU GUYS ARE TALKING TO, BUT THE ONE THAT WE OWN, MAYBE CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES WANTS THIS MUCH NEEDED DATA, BUT OUR C P S DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THEY'RE CHOMPING AT THE BIT TO GET IT. 
          SO, WELL, I, I, SO THE, THE INDIVIDUAL THAT I, UM, WAS TALKING WITH, UH, IS INVOLVED IN THEIR, UM, THEIR STEP, THEIR REBATE, THEIR ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS, UH, AND BASICALLY EXPLAINING THIS TYPE OF, OF, OF DATA THAT WOULD BE GENERATED. 
          AND, UM, THERE WAS JUST A RECOGNITION THAT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IN, IN TERMS OF, UH, ASSESSING, UM, UH, PRIORITIES FOR MAKING INVESTMENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, I MEAN, I, I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT, I MEAN, IF WE'RE GONNA GO AROUND TELLING PEOPLE THAT THIS IS MUCH NEEDED DATA TO C P S, THAT C P S SHOW UP AND TELL US THAT THIS IS MUCH NEEDED DATA TO THEM, UM, AND SO, I MEAN, I'D LOVE IT. 
          I MEAN, I, I HAVE A FEELING RUDY GARZA IS OUT THERE LISTENING. 
          RUDY, IF YOU ARE, LET US KNOW. 
          DO YOU NEED IT OR DO YOU DON'T NEED IT, RIGHT? AND IF YOU DON'T NEED IT, WELL, THEN, I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S THAT WE'RE GONNA THREATEN EMPLOYERS WITH FINES IN COURT. 
          UM, THE OTHER THING IS, UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS THINKING ABOUT U SS A A IN MY DISTRICT. 
          I, I, I JUST FOUND OUT THEY'RE THE SIXTH LARGEST OFFICE BUILDING ON THE PLANET. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY AMAZING. 
          AND SO IF WE GO TO THEM AND WE SAY, WE NEED YOU TO COMPLY WITH THIS, I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW THEY WOULD COMPLY WITHOUT LIKE A VERY SIGNIFICANT STAFF BURDEN ON HAVING TO GO COUNT EVERY COMPUTER AND FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEIR ENERGY USAGE IS ON EVERY AC MACHINE, AND THEN TELL US AND STAY ON TOP OF THAT. 
          UM, AND THEN MAKING SURE THAT IT'S ACCURATE. 
          UH, SO, YOU KNOW, THE BIGGER THE COMPANY, THE HARDER IT IS TO COMPLY. 
          UM, AND YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S A SWEET SPOT THERE WHERE YOU COULD SAY, OKAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S NOT THAT BAD. 
          I MEAN, I, I OFFICE IN A FOUR STORY BUILDING, THERE'S ABOUT FOUR TENANTS IN THERE. 
          AND I MEAN, IF OUR 
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LANDLORD CAME TO US, WE'D TELL 'EM, THAT'S NO BIG DEAL. 
          RIGHT? BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WENT TO FROST BANK TOWER AND SAID, WE NEED THIS INFORMATION. 
          I MEAN, IT'S GONNA COST THEM A HEAP OF MONEY TO BE ABLE TO COME AND COMPLY WITH, UM, WITH A REPORT, UH, A REPORTING OBLIGATION. 
          AND SO, I, I MEAN, I, I'M SENSITIVE TO THAT. 
          THE OTHER THING TOO IS I'M SORRY, COULD I JUST, UM, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          SO, UM, THE LARGER PROPERTY OWNERS ARE ALREADY, FOR THE MOST PART, DOING THIS. 
          U S A A HAS BEEN BENCHMARKING FOR FOUR YEARS. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE INTERNATIONAL LEADERS, AND THEY, IN TERMS OF FROST, THEY WERE ONE OF OUR, UM, TEST CASES. 
          THEY WERE PART OF THAT PILOT PHASE. 
          THEY DIDN'T DO THE NEW TOWER. 
          THEY DID AN O ANOTHER OFFICE BUILDING. 
          AND, UM, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO CONNECT WITH THEM TO, TO, TO GIVE YOU THEIR EXPERIENCE. 
          AND THAT'S FANTASTIC. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, THE SECOND PART OF THIS EQUATION TO ME IS THAT THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO GO AND EDUCATE THESE BUILDING OWNERS ON, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY CAN BE MORE EFFICIENT. 
          AND I, I GOTTA BE HONEST WITH YOU, YOU KNOW, I MEAN SAYING, WE'RE GONNA GO EDUCATE U S A A OR H E B OR MICROSOFT, OR, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THESE BIG COMPANIES, AND EITHER YOU HAVE TO BE REALLY, REALLY NAIVE OR EXTREMELY ARROGANT TO THINK THAT ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM IS GONNA EDUCATE ANY OF THOSE COMPANIES. 
          UM, THOSE COMPANIES CAN TEACH US MASTER CLASSES ON HOW TO SAVE ENERGY. 
          AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF I, ANDY, YOU USED TO WORK FOR GM, I USED TO WORK FOR TOYOTA. 
          IF SOMEBODY HAD COME TO US AND SAY, WE'RE GONNA EDUCATE YOU GUYS ON HOW TO DO THINGS BETTER, GET OUTTA HERE, MAN. 
          I MEAN, YOU KNOW, RIGHT? I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE ARE NO BETTER EXPERTS IN THE COMPANIES I JUST LISTED OFF. 
          AND SO I, I DO STRUGGLE WITH ONE OTHER THING TOO, RIGHT? IF MICROSOFT OR RACKSPACE OR ANY OF THESE OTHER DATA CENTERS COME TO US AND SAY, HEY, I'VE GOT PROPRIETARY INFORMATION, I JUST DON'T WANNA SHARE IT WITH YOU. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , RIGHT? UM, I, I SAW IN THE SLIDE THAT, UM, THE REQUEST FOR AN EXEMPTION GOES TO YOU, RIGHT? AND I LOVE YOU, MAN. 
          I THINK YOU'RE A GREAT GUY, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU THINK YOU ARE, WHERE YOU'RE GONNA TELL MICROSOFT, WELL, IN THIS CASE, IT'S NOT PROPRIETARY ENOUGH UNDER THE DOUG RULE. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S INCREDIBLY OFFENSIVE, MAN. 
          SURE. 
          COUNCILMAN, THANK YOU FOR THOSE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU IS THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FIVE 50,000 SQUARE FEET AND ABOVE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 2100 BUILDINGS, RIGHT? BUT AS A PART OF THAT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE RECOGNIZE WHEN WE ASK E P A, HOW MANY ARE CURRENTLY VOLUNTEERING TO DO THE PORTFOLIO MANAGER, NOW, WHAT THEY SHARE WITH US IS THAT ALREADY HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, THERE'S 35% OF THE BUSINESSES ALREADY BENCHMARKING. 
          SO I SAY THAT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IT'S NOTHING WE CAN EDUCATE THEM ON. 
          WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO RETRIEVE THEIR DATA FROM THE STANDPOINT THAT IT'S A ONE OR ONE TO 100, AND ONLY THOSE THAT ARE OVER 50, OR WE'RE LOOKING TO CAPTURE, TO REPORT OUT. 
          SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT AS WE TAKE INFORMATION IN, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THE PUBLIC ALSO HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS. 
          NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEER TO PEER. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE A HOSPITAL, YOU'RE GONNA COMPARE TO A HOSPITAL. 
          IF YOU HAVE A SCHOOL, YOU'RE COMPARING TO A SCHOOL, IF YOU'VE GOT A COMPUTER TEAM THAT'S VERY UNIQUE AND THEY'RE LIKE ONE OF A KIND, THEN MORE THAN LIKELY THEY'RE GONNA FALL UNDER THAT EXEMPTION CATEGORY. 
          THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS, AND I THINK DOUG COULD BE PRETTY FAIR, AT, AT LEAST THE INITIAL ASSESSMENT, BUT WE WOULD WANT TO EVEN TALK ABOUT PARAMETERS SO THAT WE CAN SAY, IF THEY MEET THESE CERTAIN CRITERIA, THEN IT'LL HELP US TO BE A LITTLE MORE SECURE FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT. 
          WE RAN DOWN THE SHOT CLOCK, BUT I, I WILL TELL YOU, UM, I JUST BEFORE I CHIME IN AGAIN LATER MM-HMM. 
          , I, IT'S NOT JUST YOU, DOUG, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM WHO'S QUALIFIED TO GO TELL MICROSOFT WHO IT IS AND WHO, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS AND WHAT ISN'T APPROPRIATE TO DISCLOSE. 
          AND SO, ANYWAY, I'LL CHIME, I'LL CHIME IN IN A LITTLE WHILE. 
          I, I, IF I MAY CLARIFY, MAYOR, THE, THE O R R PROCESS ON PROPRIETARY IS THAT IF WE HAVE PROPRIETARY INFORMATION FROM A THIRD PARTY AND WE GET AN O R R ON THAT PROPRIETARY INFORMATION, WE NEED TO SUBMIT A LETTER TO THE AG AND NOTIFY THAT THIRD PARTY THAT THEY HAVE AN ABILITY TO ARGUE TO THE AG THAT IT IS PROPRIETARY INFORMATION. 
          IT SHOULD NOT BE DISCLOSED, BUT WHETHER IT'S WITHHELD OR NOT FROM PUBLIC DISCLOSURE IS ULTIMATELY UP TO THE AG G'S OFFICE. 
          THAT'S TRUE. 
          THAT'S TRUE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PAL. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          UH, I JUST HAVE A FEW MORE COMMENTS HERE. 
          UH, AND PART OF IT IS ABOUT THIS DATA SHARING. 
          AND, AND I'M SORRY, DOUG, WHEN I LOOK AT YOUR CHART ON, UH, SLIDE NUMBER 18, IT, IT GOES INTO A MANDATORY COMPLIANCE, WHETHER IT'S MANDATORY TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS, UH, FINES OUT THERE, SO ON AND SO FORTH. 
          WE SHOULD NOT BE GETTING INTO THAT. 
          AND THIS LAST ILLUSTRATION 
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IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHY WE SHOULDN'T, BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING A PROPRIETARY INFORMATION THAT NOW WE GOTTA GO TO AG AND GET THEIR DETERMINATION WHETHER IT CAN BE SHARED OR NOT. 
          THIS IS CRAZY. 
          THIS IS INSANE. 
          I, I, I, I, I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS TO BE A MANDATORY PROGRAM. 
          NO WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM OR FASHION. 
          BECAUSE THESE INDUSTRIES KNOW HOW TO MANAGE THEIR BUSINESS. 
          IF THIS IS A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM THAT GIVES THEM HELPFUL DATA SO THEY CAN, UH, GET GOOD IDEAS FROM PEER FACILITIES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          AWESOME. 
          I I THINK THAT'S GREAT, BUT IT SHOULD BE VOLUNTARY. 
          AND THEN ABOUT THE FINES, OH MY GOODNESS, THIS CITY IN C P S INCENTIVIZES ALMOST EVERYTHING OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE AND BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS. 
          BUT YET IN THIS PROGRAM, WE'RE GONNA BE FINING PEOPLE. 
          HOW ABOUT TURNING THAT AROUND AND EVEN THINKING ABOUT, WELL, LET'S PROVIDE INCENTIVES, NOT FINES. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST COMING OUTTA C O V I D. 
          WE STILL GOT LOTS OF BUSINESSES OUT THERE THAT ARE SUFFERING AND TRYING TO MAKE A PROFIT. 
          AND HERE'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE CITY COMING IN WITH A HAMMER. 
          NO, YOU GOTTA COMPLY, OR WE'RE GONNA FIND YOU. 
          THAT'S, UH, AGAIN, THAT'S CRAZY IN MY BOOKS. 
          UM, UH, DOUG, WHAT WAS THE FEEDBACK FROM INDUSTRY AND ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE CHAMBERS? OR ARE THEY ALL JUMPING UP AND DOWN ABOUT THIS SAYING, YES, WE AGREE, AND LET'S PRESS ON WITH THIS? YEAH, AND AS WE, WHEN WE BRIEFED ALL COUNCIL, THERE'S, THERE'S NO, THERE WAS NOBODY WHO WAS SAYING, UM, DO THIS. 
          UM, WE, WE WANT TO, AND THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH ALL THE OTHER CITIES WE SPOKE TO. 
          UH, ALL THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED IN SAN ANTONIO ARE, ARE IDENTICAL TO EVERY OTHER COMMUNITY. 
          UH, THE KEY WAS TO IDENTIFY WERE THERE ANY COMPROMISES? UM, AND AGAIN, IT, THE, THE GOAL WAS TO, TO HEAR FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL AS FAR AS YOUR THOUGHTS. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GETTING MY FEEDBACK MM-HMM. 
          , UM, AND I, I, I JUST WANNA SAY SOMETHING ELSE. 
          YOU KNOW, IF THIS PROGRAM WERE TO PROCEED IN THE FASHION THAT IT IS RIGHT NOW BECOMES A MANDATORY PROGRAM, UH, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE DATA. 
          I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE COST TO INDUSTRY TO IMPLEMENT THESE TYPES OF THINGS, TO COME UP TO WHATEVER STANDARD, WE DETERMINE WHAT THAT STANDARD IS, AND THEN WHO'S GONNA PAY FOR THAT? AT THE END OF THE DAY, EVERYBODY ON THIS COUNCIL TALKS ABOUT SAN ANTONIO BEING THE POOREST CITY OUT HERE, BUT YET WE KEEP DRIVING COST INTO GOODS, SERVICES AND PRODUCTS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          AND THIS IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF THAT, OF SAYING, HEY, YOU GOTTA PUT IN $10 MILLION INTO YOUR FACILITY TO DO UPGRADES. 
          WHERE, WHERE DOES THAT COST GO? THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO IT OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF THEIR HEART. 
          THEY'RE GONNA PASS THAT COST TO THE CUSTOMERS. 
          AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IGNORED TIME AND TIME AGAIN ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WITH THESE ORDINANCES PASSING ON THOU SHETT TYPE OF, UH, REQUIREMENTS TO BUSINESSES, WHATEVER TYPE OF BUSINESS THEY'RE IN. 
          AND THAT COST WILL  WORK ITS WAY DOWN TO THE POOREST CITY IN THE UNITED STATES. 
          AND YEAH, I UNDERSTAND. 
          WE, WE, WE GOT ENERGY, WE GOT AN ENERGY CRISIS. 
          AND I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW. 
          WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL ENERGY SOURCES, ADDITIONAL RELIABLE ENERGY SOURCES, BECAUSE AT SOME POINT IN TIME, THOSE LINES ARE GONNA CROSS, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE REQUIREMENTS AND RESOURCES. 
          I WANNA KNOW WHEN THAT IS, AND I WANNA KNOW WHAT THE PLAN IS TO MAKE UP THAT DIFFERENCE IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO, UM, YEAH, AGAIN, THIS SHOULD NOT BE FORCED ON ANY BUSINESS. 
          AGAIN. 
          AND DAVID, YOU EVEN SAID, YOU KNOW, WE GOT 35% OF THESE BUSINESSES ALREADY DOING IT. 
          THAT'S FANTASTIC. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO ACCENTUATE THAT TO OTHER BUSINESSES OUT THERE SAYING, HEY, LOOK, THESE OTHER BUSINESSES ARE DOING IT. 
          AND LOOK AT WHAT THE RESULT IS. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE SAVING THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY AND THEN MAYBE ENCOURAGING OTHER BUSINESSES TO STEP UP AND SAY, YEAH, WE WE'RE INTERESTED IN DOING IT ALSO, BUT AS A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM. 
          YEAH, NOT MANDATORY PROGRAM. 
          AND COUNCILMAN ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I POINTED OUT THE 35% ALREADY VOLUNTEERING TO DO IT. 
          SO THOSE BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW. 
          YEAH. 
          DAVID, LEMME JUST, UNTIL YOU MANDATE IT, LEMME JUST FINISH UP. 
          YOU'LL GET TO VOLUNTEER. 
          I'M RUNNING OUTTA TIME. 
          I JUST, AGAIN, VOLUNTARY. 
          YES, MANDATORY NOW. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. 
          UM, DOUG, WHERE'D YOU GO? I FEEL LIKE IF, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL WAS HERE A WEEK AGO, SHE'D BE IN LABOR, UH, DURING THIS MEETING. 
          , UM, 
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LET ME JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT MISCHARACTERIZING WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. 
          UM, THE COMPLIANCE, WHICH IS LATER IN PHASE, IS WITH REGARD TO ENSURING THE INFORMATION IS COMING OUR WAY, RIGHT? IN TERMS OF THE BUILDING ENVELOPE, THERE'S TWO, THERE'S TWO PIECES OF, OF COMPLIANCE. 
          ONE IS, UM, BENCHMARKING USING PORTFOLIO MANAGER, UH, VERY LIMITED INFORMATION GETS SENT TO THE CITY. 
          THERE'S JUST FOUR OR FIVE DATA POINTS. 
          UM, ONE OF WHICH IS A PORT PORTFOLIO MANAGER SCORE OF ZERO TO A HUNDRED. 
          THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE PUBLIC ON A, ON A, FOR PROACTIVELY PUBLIC WOULD BE A SCORE IF IT'S 50 OR ABOVE. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S, THERE'S NO, NO OTHER INFORMATION WOULD BE SO, BECAUSE I, I, I FEEL LIKE I'M, I'M, THIS IS, I'M HEARING A CHARACTERIZATION OF, OF WHAT'S GOING ON HERE AS A, AS A FORCED COMPLIANCE TO ACHIEVE A CERTAIN SCORE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          AND IF YOU DON'T ACHIEVE THAT CERTAIN SCORE, YOU'RE GONNA BE FINE. 
          IS THAT THE CORRECT NO WAY OF UNDERSTANDING THAT? NOPE. 
          THERE'S NO, NOT EVEN IN PHASE FOUR. 
          NO. 
          THERE'S NO REQUIREMENTS TO, UM, IMPROVE BUILDING PERFORMANCE AT ALL. 
          GOT IT. 
          SO IT'S REALLY ABOUT MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE INFORMATION, THE BUILDING OWNER HAS THE INFORMATION SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE CHOICES AS AN, AS AN OWNER, AS A MEMBER OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR THAT'S IN THE, THEIR BEST INTEREST. 
          AND IF THE SCORE ISN'T WHAT MAYBE THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE, IT'S NOT EVEN BEING DISCLOSED. 
          UH, IF IT'S BELOW 50, IF IT'S BELOW 50, IF IT'S BELOW 50, OKAY. 
          UM, IT'S NOT DISCLOSED. 
          AND I, AND I THINK AGAIN, THE OTHER COMPONENT OF IT, IN ADDITION TO REALLY DOES NEED TO BE MANDATORY, UM, TO HAVE FULL, FULL, FULL COMPLIANCE AND, AND OTHER CITIES, WE'RE SEEING COMPLIANCE UPWARDS OF 90, 95%. 
          UM, THERE IS THAT DISCLOSURE POINT, UM, TO HELP REALLY DOES HELP DRIVE THE MARKET. 
          AND AGAIN, OTHER CITIES PUT EVERYTHING, UH, YOU CAN JUST GO TO SOME OTHER CITIES AND EVERY DATA POINT IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. 
          WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT ONE DATA POINT, RIGHT? AND, AND, AND, AND SO IT IS A PROGRAM IN WHICH LARGE BUILDING OPERATORS ARE AGREEING TO PARTICIPATE IN AN INFORMATION SHARING TO ALLOW US TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS ABOUT ENERGY DEMAND AND SAVINGS. 
          UM, IT IS NOT A PROGRAM IN WHICH A BUILDING OWNER WILL BE FORCED TO COMPLY WITH A SPECIFIC NO BUILDING ENERGY SCORE. 
          AND IF THEY DON'T COMPLY, THEY'RE GONNA BE FINED. 
          THAT MAY BE THE WAY SOME RANDOM CITY DOES IT SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE. 
          AND I, AND I THINK IF IT WAS HAPPENING HERE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD THE COMPROMISE THAT WE HAVE WITH BUILDING OWNERS AND PRIVATE SECTOR COMING TOGETHER WITH OUR CLIMATE COMMITTEES TO, TO GET HERE. 
          UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT LEAVING HERE WITH A DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO LET, LET'S CONTINUE ON WITH THE DISCUSSION. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE IS GONNA BE FIRST IN, SO THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UH, I SUPPORTED THE, UH, ORIGINAL PLAN FOR OUR, UH, CLIMATE ADAPTATION, AND I SUPPORTED THE PARIS CLIMATE AGREEMENT. 
          AND SO I'M FOR THE SAN ANTONIO READY, UH, CLIMATE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE. 
          UH, AND, AND OF COURSE, IF I DIDN'T, I'D PROBABLY BE ASKING YOU ALL KINDS OF QUESTIONS AND POKING ALL KINDS OF HOLES INTO YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          BUT I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. 
          UH, FIRST OF ALL, WHEN WILL THE 50 EV CHARGERS THAT WERE ALLUDED TO, AND THE FIRST FEW PAGES OF THE PRESENTATION BE ACTUALLY UP AND RUNNING? 'CAUSE WE'RE HEARING MORE AND MORE ABOUT ELECTRIC VEHICLES ON OUR STREETS. 
          THE OBJECTIVE IS, UH, ALL OF THEM INSTALLED AND FUNCTIONAL BY 2023. 
          SO YEAR AND A HALF FROM NOW, THOSE 50 WILL BE OUT THERE. 
          IS THERE ANY WORD ABOUT MORE SO, UM, THE BIG THING THAT WE ARE TRACKING RIGHT NOW IS, UH, SOME OF THE FEDERAL INFRASTRUCTURE DOLLARS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY FOR EVS. 
          AND SO, UM, WE HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE, AND WE'RE GONNA BE COLLABORATING WITH OTHER PARTNERS TO MAKE SURE, UM, WE GET OUR, OUR FAIR SHARE. 
          UH, ON SLIDE 11, YOU SAID WE HAVE, UH, PARTNERS THAT WE WANTED TO, UH, WORK WITH ON OUR SAN ANTONIO READY PLAN. 
          HOW ARE THESE PARTNERS, UM, HOW ARE THEY EDUCATING PEOPLE? HOW ARE THEY PERFORMING THEIR EDUCATION OR COMMUNITY, UH, WORK? UH, THERE'S A, A GREAT LIST, BUT WHAT ARE THEY DOING? ARE THEY PROVIDING VIDEOS? ARE THEY PROVIDING WRITTEN MATERIAL? ARE THEY HAVING PRE PRESENTATIONS OR ARE THEY JUST GROUPS IN NAME ONLY RIGHT NOW? YEAH, SO, UM, MANY OF THESE FOLKS, AS I'D MENTIONED, ARE SERVING ON OUR, OUR, OUR SUBCOMMITTEE 
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WHO ARE AT THE TABLE, UH, AT EACH MEETING. 
          UM, WE HAVE PRODUCED, UM, INFORMATION AND HAVE ASKED MANY OF THEM TO DISSEMINATE TO THEIR, UM, THEIR, UM, MEMBERSHIP BASE OR, UH, THROUGH THEIR, UM, UH, OTHER PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS TO TRY TO GET THE WORD OUT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 
          UM, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, ONCE WE SORT OF WALK OUT OF HERE, I THINK WE DEFINITELY NEED TO RAMP UP THAT, THAT ENGAGEMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR FROM THE COHORT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CLOSELY IS THERE'S A LOT OF PROPERTY OWNERS OUT THERE THAT MAY BE IMPACTED BY THIS OVER 2000. 
          WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT NOW THAT WE HAVE SORT OF LIKE A ROUGH DRAFT OF WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING IN TOUCH WITH EVERYONE SO THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN. 
          OKAY, NOW WE'VE HAD THIS PLAN FOR FIVE YEARS. 
          UM, WHAT HAVE WE ACCOMPLISHED IN THESE FIVE YEARS? UH, YOU KNOW, OUT OF OUR ORIGINAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN, WHAT HAVE WE ACCOMPLISHED? SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO DO, BECAUSE I KNEW YOU WERE GONNA ASK THAT QUESTION, I WANTED TO BASICALLY, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT THE CLIMATE PLAN AND, UH, ASSESS, UM, WHERE ARE WE IN IMPLEMENTATION. 
          AND SO BASICALLY WENT THROUGH IT TO SEE WHAT'S BEEN COMPLETED, WHAT'S IN PROCESS, AND WHAT HASN'T BEEN STARTED. 
          AND OUT OF THE 86 STRATEGIES FROM THE CLIMATE PLAN, UH, 47% ARE IN PROGRESS. 
          THERE'S ONLY TWO THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. 
          UH, ONE IS WE, UM, WE DID, AS JULIE HAD MENTIONED, UM, UH, UH, IMPLEMENTED A ENERGY, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE OBJECTIVE FOR CITY FACILITIES, AND THEN COUNCIL ADOPTED PACE. 
          SO THOSE WERE TWO EASY ONES. 
          BUT AGAIN, THE CHALLENGE WITH THIS PLAN IS THERE'S A LOT OF VERY HIGH LEVEL STRATEGIES THAT DON'T NECESSARILY, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO KNOW WHEN IT IS COMPLETED. 
          UM, BUT IN REVIEWING IT, JUST ABOUT HALF ARE IN SOME ASPECT, IN SOME, UM, STATE OF IMPLEMENTATION. 
          WELL, YOU KNOW, TO ME IT'S DISAPPOINTING THAT WE'VE ONLY ACCOMPLISHED TWO OUT OF 80 SOMETHING THINGS IN FIVE YEARS. 
          UH, BUT DURING THAT TIME, WHAT HAVE BEEN THE COST TO BUSINESSES HERE IN SAN ANTONIO TO, TO ANY OF THE PART OF THE PLAN THAT'S BEEN PUT FORWARD? UM, THERE HAS BEEN NO DIRECT FINANCIAL IMPACT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY HASN'T HAD TO PAY A PRICE FOR ANYTHING SO FAR, NOT AS A RESULT OF THAT. 
          BUT WE'VE ONLY, BUT WE HAVEN'T GOT MUCH DONE. 
          BUT ONE OF THE IMPORTANT INGREDIENTS IN THE PLAN GOING FORWARD IS WHAT YOU ARE PRESENTING TODAY IN THE OPINION OF THE ORGAN, THE ORGANIZERS WHO ARE WORKING ON THIS PLAN. 
          AND SO, IF WE DIDN'T DO THIS, IF WE SCRAP THIS, THEN HOW FAR IS THIS PLAN GOING? IF SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WHICH A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY AND RESEARCH HAS BEEN DONE, BUT WE DECIDE, WELL, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THIS BECAUSE BUSINESS DOESN'T LIKE IT, DOES THAT CONTINUE TO MOVE US FORWARD? OR DOES THAT SET US BACK? YEAH, THAT SETS US BACK. 
          AND THAT'S BEEN THE CHALLENGE. 
          I THINK, UM, THE CITY'S DOING A LOT OF THINGS RIGHT TO MOVE OUR EFFORTS FORWARD. 
          THE ADVANCING, UH, ADVANCED RAPID TRANSIT, THE WORK THAT C P S IS DOING ON DECARBONIZING, THOSE ARE LONG-TERM INITIATIVES. 
          AND THAT HAS BEEN THE STRUGGLE IS SORT OF LOOKING AT THIS PLAN, LOOKING AT BEST PRACTICES, AND REALLY FIGURING OUT WHAT ARE THE THINGS HERE AND NOW THAT ARE GONNA MOVE THE NEEDLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE REASONABLE. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          WE'RE MOVING THE NEEDLE. 
          WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THROUGH THIS PROPOSAL IS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE EFFICIENCY IS FOR THE BUILDINGS AROUND OUR CITY, UH, AND ALSO TO ENABLE THOSE BUILDINGS TO KIND OF TAKE A SELF LOOK AND, AND HOW IS THE EFFICIENCY WORKING IN YOUR BUSINESS, IN YOUR BUILDING? BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT EVERY MOM AND POP STORE, OR PROBABLY 50% OR 70% OF THE BUSINESSES. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LARGEST BUILDINGS, WHICH PRETTY MUCH ARE THE LARGEST ENERGY USERS AMONG, UH, OUR ECONOMY. 
          AND WE'RE ASKING, UM, TO TAKE A LOOK AT THEMSELVES RIGHT NOW, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET THESE ENERGY INSPECTIONS DONE? ARE THEY, ARE, IS THE CITY GOING TO DO IT AND GIVE THEM THEIR RESULTS? OR WILL THEY HAVE TO GO OUT AND SPEND MONEY TO HIRE A COMPANY WHO IS QUALIFIED TO DO THE INSPECTION? YEAH. 
          SO IN, IN TERMS OF, UM, COMPLIANCE WITH THE, UM, THIS POLICY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, REALLY ISN'T GONNA REQUIRE HIRING ANY TECHNICAL EXPERTISE TO, TO DO IT. 
          UM, BUT IN ORDER TO, TO TAKE ACTION ON THE BUILDINGS, UM, THERE MAY BE SOME WHO DO WANT TO BRING IN, UH, A JOHNSON CONTROL OR ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, ENERGY SERVICE, UH, COMPANY. 
          UM, THERE MAY BE, UM, POTENTIAL INCENTIVES TO, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE WORKED WITH C P S IN THE PAST AS OTHERS WHERE AN ENERGY AUDIT CAN BE CONDUCTED, UM, AT, AT NO COST TO BASICALLY HAVE SOMEBODY WALK THROUGH YOUR BUILDING AND THEN HAND YOU A REPORT THAT SAYS, THESE ARE THE FIVE THINGS THAT YOU SHOULD DO. 
          AND, AND IDEALLY, 
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THOSE FIVE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO CAN BE INCENTIVIZED THROUGH EITHER C P SS OR A SEPARATE CITY PROGRAM. 
          I LIKE THAT WORD INCENTIVES AS OPPOSED TO SOME KIND OF A PUNISHMENT. 
          UM, BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA EXPECT BUSINESSES TO SPEND $25,000 ON SOMEBODY TO COME OUT AND LOOK AT THEIR BUILDINGS, ARE WE? NO, SIR. 
          UH, AND AS FAR AS THE, THE CONCEPT OF VOLUNTEER, VOLUNTEER DOES NOT WORK. 
          YES, WE'VE GOT 35% OF THE BUSINESSES THAT WE'VE TALKED WITH, BUT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER 65%. 
          AND THEY MAY NOT KNOW THEMSELVES ABOUT HOW THEY COULD BE MORE EFFICIENT, MORE EFFECTIVE, SAVE THEMSELVES MONEY, OR HOW OUR CITY IS DOING IN ITS MOVE FORWARD TO LOWER OUR ENERGY, BE MORE, UH, CONSCIENTIOUS AND CONSERVE AND, AND SAVE ALL OF US FROM THAT. 
          SO, I MEAN, WE USED TO SAY, VOLUNTEER TO WEAR YOUR SEATBELT. 
          WELL, THAT NEVER WORKED. 
          SO WE HAVE TO, BY LAW, WE USED TO SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, SMOKING, UH, OH, YOU CAN SMOKE THE COMPANIES. 
          YOU SAY, OH, THEY WON'T HURT YOU AT ALL. 
          BUT IT TOOK LAWS TO BRING THAT INTO FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WAS DOING TO US. 
          UM, WE HAVE SPEED LIMITS. 
          WE DON'T LET EVERYBODY JUST DRIVE AROUND AT ANY SPEED THEY WANT, OKAY. 
          SO TO SAY, MAKING THIS VOLUNTARY DOES NOT GIVE US THE KIND OF INFORMATION THAT IS VALUABLE TO US AS A COMMUNITY IN MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR CLIMATE, UH, EFFORTS. 
          SO MY FRIENDS, WHEN WE SAY, OH, IT SHOULD JUST BE VOLUNTARY, WE ARE NOT GOING TO ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT, WHICH MEANS WE ARE NOT GONNA MOVE FORWARD ON THIS. 
          AND IF YOU DON'T WANNA MOVE FORWARD, KEEP SAYING, OH, WE CAN'T ASK BUSINESSES TO DO ANYTHING, UH, AND WE WON'T MOVE FORWARD. 
          BUT I WANT TO SEE US MOVE FORWARD ON THIS. 
          I WANT MY GRANDKIDS TO BREATHE CLEAN AIR AND TO CONTINUE TO LIVE IN THIS CITY AND THIS STATE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER BRAVO. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          AND, UH, I WANNA THANK COUNCILMAN MCKEE RODRIGUEZ FOR SHARING HIS FAVORITE ACTIVITY WHEN IT'S REALLY HOT OUTSIDE OF GOING SWIMMING. 
          AND I WANT TO USE THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MENTION THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT ALL OF OUR SWIMMING POOL POOLS ARE OPEN RIGHT NOW, AND WHEN THEY ARE, THEY'RE OPEN FOR VERY LIMITED HOURS. 
          AND I KNOW THAT OUR CITY'S WORKING ON TRYING TO HIRE MORE LIFEGUARDS. 
          I'VE PUSHED THAT INFORMATION OUT. 
          UH, I KNOW WE'RE GIVING OUT A THOUSAND DOLLARS BONUSES TO GET TO, UM, TO, FOR ANYBODY WHO DOES SIGN UP AND WORK AS A LIFEGUARD OVER THE SUMMER, BUT I, I THINK MAYBE WE NEED TO BE PAYING EVEN MORE IF WE NEED TO GET THOSE POOLS OPEN FOR LONGER HOURS AND GET MORE OF THEM OPEN SO THAT PEOPLE CAN HAVE ACCESS DURING THESE HOT TIMES. 
          UM, NOW I WANNA POINT OUT THAT THIS, WHAT, WHAT DOUG IS PRESENTING TO US TODAY IS THE, THE BUILDING EQUIVALENT TO A WINDOW STICKER THAT SHOWS HOW MANY MILES PER GALLON A CAR GETS. 
          AND THAT'S JUST GOOD TRANSPARENCY FOR THE MARKETPLACE. 
          AND I, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY VEHICLE MANUFACTURER THAT WENT OUT OF BUSINESS FOR HAVING A WINDOW STICKER THAT SHOWED HOW MANY MILES PER GALLON THEY GOT. 
          AND, UH, COUNCILMAN PERRY POINTED OUT THAT, UH, HE'S WORRIED THAT, THAT THESE COSTS, UM, FOR INVESTMENT ENERGY EFFICIENCY INVESTMENTS IN THESE BUILDINGS ARE GONNA BE PASSED ON TO, UH, TO THE TENANTS. 
          AND I ACTUALLY HOPE THAT'S THE CASE, BECAUSE ENERGY EFFICIENCY IS AT WILL ACTUALLY HELP, UH, SAVE ENERGY AND SAVE BILL ON BILLS. 
          AND SO I HOPE THOSE, THOSE ENERGY COST SAVINGS ARE PASSED ON TO THE TENANTS. 
          UM, RIGHT NOW OUR BUILDING BENCHMARKING IS, IT, IT ALREADY IS VOLUNTARY, AND SO NOT MAKING THIS MANDATORY IS THE EQUIVALENT OF DOING NOTHING. 
          UM, I, I PRE PRESENTED WHAT I BELIEVE IS A, A GOOD VISION FOR A WORLD CLASS GLOBALLY COMPETITIVE CITY, UH, THAT, THAT MAKES THIS A VERY EASY DECISION FOR ME. 
          YOU KNOW, I LOOKED AT DOUG'S SLIDES AND SAW THAT WE'RE ALREADY BEHIND 36 CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES ALONE. 
          AND SO IF WE SUPPORT THIS AND WE MAKE IT MANDATORY, THAT ALLOWS US TO KE CATCH UP WITH 16 OF THOSE CITIES AND STILL BEHI BE BEHIND 20 OF THOSE CITIES BECAUSE WE ARE NOT MANDATING THAT BUSINESSES DO ANYTHING IN RESPONSE TO THIS INFORMATION. 
          THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE JUST GONNA COLLECT THIS INFORMATION, MAKE IT PUBLIC. 
          AND ALSO, IT'S NOT EVEN THE EQUIVALENT OF A WINDOW STICKER FOR A CAR FOR THEIR MILES PER GALLON. 
          BECAUSE IF YOU AREN'T ONE OF THE, IN THE TOP HALF OF PER UH, BUILDINGS WHEN IT COMES TO ENERGY PERFORMANCE, YOUR, YOUR BUILDINGS STATS AREN'T EVEN PUBLISHED. 
          AND SO, 
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YOU KNOW, I, AGAIN, I WANT US TO BE A GLOBALLY COMPETITIVE CITY. 
          I WANT US TO BE A WORLD-CLASS CITY, AND THAT MAKES IT AN EASY DECISION TO MAKE THIS MANDATORY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER BRAVO. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          I THINK FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, THIS CITY COUNCIL DISAGREES ON SOMETHING. 
          UM, I WANTED TO, I ENDED MY LAST COMMENTS AND I WANTED TO, UM, CHECK ON THE IMPACT OF BENCHMARKING, BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS, AND I HOPE I'M CORRECT, BUT BENCHMARKING IS MORE, UM, EFFECTIVE THAN ANY OTHER STRATEGY, ASIDE FROM MAYBE SHUTTING DOWN SPRUCE. 
          IT ALL COMES DOWN TO HOW WE DEFINE, UM, I, I THINK FROM A, A GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION, UM, PERSPECTIVE, UM, C P S MAKING THOSE BIG STEPS, UM, AS I MENTIONED, GETTING, YOU KNOW, A R T OUT THERE, BUILDING MORE BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE REALLY THE THINGS THAT WE, WE NEED TO DO. 
          AND WE ARE DOING, WE'RE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION. 
          UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, REDUCING CONSUMPTION IN OUR LARGEST BUILDINGS HAS A, A, A, A MAJOR IMPACT AND WILL BE QUICKER. 
          UM, AND, AND HAS MULTIPLE BENEFITS THAT THAT APPEARS TO BE ON, ON PAPER, A WIN WIN WIN. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, STAFF IS SO, UM, INTRIGUED BY IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT A TON. 
          UM, MY CONCERN IS THAT EVERY YEAR THAT WE ALLOW FOR THIS VOLUNTARY OPT-IN PERIOD WITHIN THE FIVE YEAR ALLOWANCE, BECAUSE IT'S FIVE YEARS BEFORE EVERYONE IS INVOLVED IN IT, UM, OR IS PARTICIPATING IN IT MANDATORY, I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'D BE LOSING GROUND TOWARDS OUR CLIMATE ACTION AND CARBON NEUTRALITY GOALS. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND THIS WAS A COMPROMISE, UM, WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. 
          AND I HAVE A MESSAGE FOR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AS, WHICH IS MY CAMERA DIRECTLY, THIS ONE, THIS ISN'T ABOUT PUNISHMENT. 
          IT'S NOT ABOUT FINES, IT'S NOT ABOUT ANY OF THAT. 
          WE WANT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          WE WANT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. 
          AND WE KNOW THAT WE ALL HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY IN THAT. 
          AND I THINK THAT, AND I'M APPRECIATE, UM, MAYOR RON LEVEL SETTING AGAIN AND EXPLAINING THAT THIS ISN'T, OH, YOU HAVE TO MEET THIS CERTAIN STANDARD AND YOU'RE, OR YOU'RE GONNA GET FINED, OR YOU HAVE TO MAKE ALL THESE BUSINESS PRACTICES, OR YOU'RE GONNA FIND IT'S, IT'S ABOUT THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING. 
          AND WE NEED THAT INFORMATION TO BEST HELP YOU. 
          BECAUSE IF WE WANNA SEE YOU MAKE ANY, UM, ANY CHANGES, AND WE WANT TO SEE YOU IMPROVE ON YOUR, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY, THEN WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHO'S SUCCEEDING, WHAT ARE THE STRENGTHS AND WHAT ARE THE WEAKNESSES IN OUR COMMUNITY AND HOW CAN WE HELP? AND SO I'M ALSO OPEN FOR, UM, CONVERSATION ABOUT INCENTIVES AND BENEFITS AND ALL OF THAT. 
          THAT'S MORE THAN, UM, THAT'S MORE THAN WELCOME. 
          BUT I THINK WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT, THERE'S THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I WANNA CHALLENGE THE IDEA THAT OUR CITY COUNCIL HAS EVER REALLY PUT THE HAMMER TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. 
          I, I CAN'T THINK OF A TIME IN WHICH THAT'S NECESSARILY BEEN TRUE FROM A REGULAR PERSON'S PERSPECTIVE. 
          AND WE'RE HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT, OH, WE DON'T WANNA FINE OR FEE BUSINESSES, BUT LET'S THINK OF CODE, FOR EXAMPLE. 
          WE HAVE LITTLE OLD LADIES WHO MAY NOT BE ABLE TO MOW THEIR, THEIR LAWN AND THEY'RE BEING FEED, THEY'RE BEING GIVEN FINES. 
          WE'RE ASKING FOR CERTAIN STANDARDS TO BE MAINTAINED AND UPHELD, AND CERTAIN AMOUNTS OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY TO BE MET. 
          AND IF NOT, IT'S A FEE OR IT'S A FINE. 
          I THINK THERE'S A VERY CLEAR PARALLEL THERE. 
          AND I WOULD ALSO, I DO WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE BENEFIT TO PEOPLE. 
          YESTERDAY I HAD A BRIEFING ON THIS ITEM AND SOMEONE BROUGHT UP THE BENEFIT FOR SOMEONE WHO WAS LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO RANT, AND WOULD YOU MIND EXPLAINING THAT? UM, SO IF YES, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? YES, SIR. 
          AND ONE OF, AGAIN, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO, UM, GLEAN FROM OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE BEEN DOING THIS LONGER IS THERE IS THAT EQUITY BENEFIT, UH, THAT, UM, PARTICULARLY FOR, UM, RENTERS, UH, IN, IN TRYING TO ASCERTAIN, UM, WHERE ARE THEY GONNA LIVE AND, AND, AND CITIES THAT HAVE HAD THIS DISCLOSURE, UM, UH, FOR MULTI-FAMILY, UM, UH, IT PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY AND INFORMATION FOR RENTERS TO, TO SHOP AROUND A LITTLE MORE, TO, TO BE ABLE TO ASSESS, UH, WHICH PROPERTY HAS A HIGHER RATE OF EFFICIENCY. 
          THEY'RE THE ONES PAYING THE BILLS. 
          UM, AND, UH, THEY LIKE TO HAVE THAT DATA IN ORDER TO HELP INFORM THEIR DECISION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I THINK THAT WAS A VERY IMPORTANT POINT, AND I KNOW IT, UM, HAD BEEN MISSED SO FAR. 
          UM, I'LL END MY COMMENTS, BUT I WANNA GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO SAN ANTONIO, DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS OF AMERICA, BECAUSE I BROUGHT UP CODE AND THEY DO HAVE A CODE BUSTERS PROGRAM THAT HAS BEEN WONDERFUL. 
          AND THEY, THEY ASSIST OUR COMMUNITY AND ALLEVIATING SOME OF THEIR, UH, CODE VIOLATIONS IN A WAY THAT'S AFFORDABLE AND HELPFUL. 
          AND MY TEAM REMINDED ME THERE'S SOMETHING I FORGOT TO, TO 
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ADD RELATED TO THE AFFORDABILITY SIDE. 
          UM, WE KNOW FROM TALKING TO, UM, UH, MEMBERS OF THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION THAT WITHOUT HAVING THIS, THIS DATA, THIS, THIS WHOLE BUILDING DATA, UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, THESE MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENT BUILDINGS HAVE MULTIPLE TENANTS, UM, IT PUTS THEM AT, UH, THERE'S THE INABILITY TO GO AFTER SOME FEDERAL FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES. 
          AND SO AGAIN, THIS COULD HELP FACILITATE THEIR ACCESS TO THOSE DOLLARS TO PROVIDE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          OKAY. 
          COME THROUGH APARTMENT ASSOCIATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER EZ. 
          SO ABSOLUTELY NO CONFUSION OVER HERE. 
          I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THE NO NON-COMPLIANCE FINE IS, AND SO I'LL JUST PUT IT OUT THERE. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE FINDING PEOPLE FOR NOT HITTING A SCORE. 
          I GET IT. 
          INSTEAD, WE'RE GONNA BE FINDING THEM FOR NOT TURNING IN THEIR HOMEWORK TO DOUG. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE FIGHTING 'EM FOR. 
          SO, UM, IT'S NOT IF THEY GET AN A PLUS ON THE HOMEWORK, THEY JUST HAVE TO TURN IT IN OR THEY FACE. 
          ANDY, WOULD IT BE A CLASS C MISDEMEANOR? FINE. 
          UH, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT FINES UNTIL LATER PHASES, COUNCILMAN. 
          AND WE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH, UM, THE TEAM IN TERMS OF DEFINING WHAT THOSE, THOSE FINES ARE AND WHETHER THEY CLASSIFY AS THAT OR NOT. 
          THANKS, ANDY. 
          THAT WAS I, I, AND I'M SORRY FOR PUTTING YOU IN A, IN A TOUGH POSITION. 
          I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. 
          SO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, USUALLY OUR FINES ARE CLASSY MISDEMEANOR FINES, WHICH ARE CRIMES. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA ACCUSE YOU OF A CRIME IF YOU DON'T GIVE DOUG MELNICK YOUR HOMEWORK. 
          AND, UH, AS OPPOSED TO SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHY DON'T WE GIVE YOU GUYS SOME INCENTIVES TO VOLUNTARY, UH, UH, TO VOLUNTARILY PARTICIPATE. 
          UM, SLIDE 20 AND 21. 
          DOUG, WHEN YOU GOT UP THERE, YOU SAID, WE ARE GONNA BE MORE COMPETITIVE FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE IF WE DO THIS RIGHT. 
          AND YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT SLIDE THE CITIES WHO ARE ON THAT SLIDE AND SLIDE 21. 
          CITIES LIKE SEATTLE, PORTLAND, WASHINGTON, CHICAGO, SAN DIEGO, AND OTHER CITIES IN CALIFORNIA. 
          UM, I'LL REMIND YOU, THOSE ARE THE CITIES WHERE EMPLOYERS ARE RUSHING OUT IN THE BIG EXODUS TO COME TO TEXAS BECAUSE, AND THEIR CEOS WILL TELL YOU, THEY'LL LOOK YOU IN THE EYE AND THEY'LL TELL YOU, BECAUSE I'M SICK AND TIRED OF THE BSS OF MANDATORIES AND FINES AND HIDDEN TAXES LIKE TRANSIT FEES AND IMPACT FEES AND ALL THAT, THEY'RE COMING HERE, RIGHT? AND SO WHEN SOMEBODY TELLS ME AT THIS CITY, HEY, THIS IS GONNA MAKE US MORE COMPETITIVE, I WONDER, DID YOU TALK TO OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AT GREATER S A T X? AND I KNOW YOU DIDN'T. 
          THEY WILL TELL YOU BECAUSE I'VE ASKED THEM, WILL THIS MAKE, MAKE US MORE COMPETITIVE? QUOTE UNQUOTE, ABSOLUTELY FALSE. 
          WHOEVER TOLD YOU THAT HAS NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, THIS WILL NOT CREATE NEW JOBS AND THIS WILL NOT, UM, HELP US FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE. 
          IF YOU WANNA MAKE A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER GOVERNMENT ARGUMENTS TO SUPPORT THIS, FEEL FREE TO MAKE 'EM RIGHT. 
          BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA MAKE, YOU KNOW, UH, AN ARGUMENT THAT IS SO EASILY DEBUNK ABLE, RIGHT? EXPECT ME TO, YOU KNOW, UH, TO DO THAT. 
          LASTLY, I HEARD TWO THINGS TODAY, NOT MAKING THIS MANDATORY AS THE EQUIVALENT OF DOING NOTHING. 
          AND THEN I ALSO HEARD, HEY, I WANT MY GRANDKIDS TO, TO CLEAN, UH, TO BREATHE CLEAN AIR. 
          I DO TOO, CLAYTON. 
          I KNOW YOU ALSO WANT YOUR, YOUR KIDS TO, UH, BREATHE CLEAN AIR AND, UH, DRINK CLEAN WATER. 
          BUT I THINK THAT WHEN YOU SET IT UP AS A BINARY CHOICE LIKE THAT, THAT'S DISHONEST. 
          OFFICE SOPHISTRY. 
          AND GOSH, WE'RE BETTER THAN, THAN DISHONEST OFFICE SOPHISTRY AND, YOU KNOW, UH, STRAW MAN ARGUMENTS, RIGHT? UH, NOBODY TODAY HAS SHOWN ME. 
          AND YOU, YOU WOULD'VE BEEN ARMED WITH THE, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS INFORMATION. 
          I DUNNO WHY YOU DIDN'T COME WITH THE INFORMATION AS TO WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THOSE CITIES WHERE THIS IS NOT MANDATORY AND VOLUNTARY, RIGHT? YOU'RE GONNA, YOU SAID, BUT I MEAN, IT'S NOT ON A SLIDE. 
          I'D LOVE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT OTHER CITIES WHO HAVE DECIDED MAYBE WE'RE GONNA TREAT OUR PARTNERS LIKE PARTNERS AS OPPOSED TO LIKE CHILDREN AND ASK THEM TO ACTUALLY ENTHUSIASTICALLY SUPPORT THIS THING AND LEAN IN AND GIVE US INFORMATION. 
          SO I ALSO BELIEVE EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM WHEN THEY SAY, HEY, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE HERE TO SHAME YOU. 
          WE'RE NOT HERE TO SHAME YOU. 
          I BELIEVE YOU. 
          I KNOW YOU'RE NOT HERE TO SHAME YOU, BUT THERE'S PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM WHO MAKE A VERY NICE LIVING FROM SHAMING CORPORATIONS,  I, AND GRABBING THAT, THAT, UH, THAT INFORMATION. 
          UM, AND I DON'T NEED YOU GUYS TO SHAME 'EM. 
          'CAUSE THERE'S PLENTY OF OTHER PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO DO IT ENTHUSIASTICALLY AS A HOBBY, AND THEY'RE REALLY GOOD AT IT. 
          LASTLY, TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY THAT'S WATCHING YOU OUT THERE, YOU HEARD TODAY A, A PROMISE FROM OUR FRIENDS ON THE DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST PARTY, UH, THAT THEY'RE HERE TO HELP YOU. 
          AND, UM, THEY'VE SPENT THE PAST YEAR TELLING YOU THAT YOU GUYS ARE BIGOTS AND CRONIES AND FAT CATS, UH, AND, UH, SHILLS AND LACKEYS, AND THAT YOU'RE ALL CRUEL TO YOUR EMPLOYEES. 
          BUT TODAY YOU NEED TO BELIEVE THEM WHEN THEY SAY IT'S SINCERELY. 
          THEY TOLD YOU THAT TODAY THEY NEED TO, YOU NEED TO BELIEVE HIM. 
          NO, REALLY, TODAY WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU IF YOU BELIEVE THAT THAT'S ON YOU. 
          BUT 
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PLEASE, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT, THAT BELIEVE THAT I'VE GOT A REALLY NICE BEACHSIDE CONDO TO SELL YOU IN ARIZONA. 
          THANKS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PLI. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO, THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, NOT MOWING YOUR LAWN WHEN IT'S OVER 12 INCHES IS A CLASS C MISDEMEANOR. 
          SO I WANNA ENSURE WE CONTINUE THIS ENERGY THAT WE HAVE IN ADVOCATING FOR INCENTIVES FOR A BIG BUSINESS WHEN WE HAVE CONSTITUENTS, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE BEING FINED FOR NOT MAINTAINING THEIR PROPERTY BECAUSE OF CITY CODE. 
          SO THAT SAME ENERGY, LET, LET'S KEEP IT WHEN IT COMES TO THE EVERYDAY FOLK WHO CONTINUE TO PAY PROPERTY TAXES, UH, IN THIS CITY. 
          UM, SO I AGREE WITH THE COUNCILMAN COURAGE, RIGHT? I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS GOES FAR ENOUGH, BUT WHAT THIS IS, IS A COMPROMISE, RIGHT? IT'S US NOT SITTING ON OUR HANDS AND WE COULD CONTINUE TO SIT ON OUR HANDS OR MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING WITH IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS PUT FORWARD. 
          AND AGAIN, RIGHT? WHILE THE RESULTS ARE CERTAINLY IMPRESSIVE, UM, CITIES WHO PARTICIPATE IN THESE PROGRAMS TEND TO SEE RELATIVELY SMALL SUBSETS OF PARTICIPANTS AMONG THEIR TOTAL POOL OF COMMERCIAL BUILDING STOCK WITH THE MOST SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS REACHING LESS THAN 20%, RIGHT? ALL THAT TO SAY THAT 80% OF BUILDINGS THAT AREN'T PARTICIPATING ARE LESS LIKELY TO BE ENERGY EFFICIENT, RIGHT? AND I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE IMBALANCE OF ENERGY AND WHERE WE'RE PRIORITIZING INCENTIVES. 
          AND I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT, UM, THE C P C P S RATE VOTE, FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT? UM, ONE WHO PAYS THE HIGHER RATE, RIGHT? THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNER. 
          UM, WHEREAS THE LARGER THE BUSINESS, THE MORE ENERGY YOU USED, THE LOWER THE RATE, RIGHT? AND THIS IS FACT, AND THERE'S THIS IMBALANCE WHERE WE'RE ISSUING ALL OF OUR INCENTIVES, UH, TOWARDS ONE AND NOT THE OTHER. 
          AND IT'S AN IMBALANCE. 
          AND MY HOPE IS THAT MOVING FORWARD AS WE ENTER THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, THAT WE HAVE THE SAME FIGHT, UH, FOR EVERYDAY PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN OUR DISTRICTS WHO ARE GETTING VIOLATIONS FOR CODE FOR A CLASSY MISDEMEANOR FOR NOT CUTTING THEIR GRASS, RIGHT? SO I, I KNOW IT'S A MESSAGING THAT'S BIG AND SCARY THAT MULTIMILLION DOLLAR BUSINESSES CAN'T HANDLE A FEE. 
          BUT AGAIN, AS CITED, RIGHT? WE ARE THE BIGGEST POOR CITY, AND WE LOOK AT THOSE CODE COMPLIANCE VIOLATIONS AND THE CITATIONS THAT COME WITH THEM. 
          IF THE EXPECTATION IS THAT WE'RE EXPECTING EVERYDAY PEOPLE, EVERYDAY POOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO PAY THESE FINES, RIGHT? THEN, THEN IT SHOULD BE, SHOULD BE BALANCED, RIGHT? BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE HEARING. 
          THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE SEEING. 
          UM, BUT I DIGRESS POINT BEING RIGHT, THAT THIS, UH, DOES NOT GO FAR ENOUGH AND THIS IS A MIDDLE GROUND. 
          UM, AGAIN, KNOWING THAT WE NEED TO ACT NOW. 
          AND IT IS THAT, THAT BLACK AND WHITE, RIGHT? WE ARE EITHER GOING TO ACT TO ADDRESS THE CLIMATE CRISIS OR WE'RE NOT. 
          IT'S THAT SIMPLE. 
          YOU ARE OR YOU AREN'T. 
          UM, AND WE CAN'T PLAY FAVORITES AT THE COST OF EVERYDAY PEOPLE WHOSE NOT ONLY ARE THEIR PROPERTY TAXES GOING UP, THEIR C P S BILLS ARE GOING UP, THEIR RENTS ARE GOING UP. 
          SO ALL THESE ISSUES ARE COMPOUNDING. 
          SO IT IS THAT BINARY. 
          IT'S EITHER YOU'RE, YOU'RE IN FOR A BETTER WORLD OR YOU'RE NOT. 
          UM, BUT THOSE ARE ALL MY COMMENTS. 
          I LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THIS ITEM. 
          AND ERIC, CAN YOU SHARE WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS HAVE BEEN? UM, ARE YOU HEARING DIRECTION OF THIS MOVING FORWARD, OR WHERE WE AT? UM, THANKS FOR ASKING, UH, BECAUSE I WAS CONTEMPLATING MESSAGING TO THE MAYOR AS WE CLOSE UP. 
          'CAUSE I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE POLICY CONVERSATION HERE IS EXACTLY LIKE WHAT I'VE HEARD AS WE'VE MET WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS. 
          IT, IT IS, IT IS NOT, IT'S NOT DIFFERENT AT ALL. 
          IT'S THE EXACT SAME CONVERSATION YOU GUYS ARE HAVING TODAY. 
          THERE ARE THOSE THAT, UM, FEEL LIKE, UM, IT'S NOT FAR ENOUGH. 
          THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE RECOGNIZING IT AS A COMPROMISE OR THERE THAT THERE IS SOME COMPROMISE THAT, THAT WE CAN GET TO. 
          AND THERE ARE OTHERS THAT JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANY TIME SPENT ON IT. 
          AND, UM, UM, WE HAVE A LOT MORE WORK TO DO. 
          UM, I, YOU KNOW, DOUG, DOUG AND THE GROUP, AND DAVE AND KAREN AS CHAIR HAVE BEEN TRYING TO ELICIT FEEDBACK ON WHAT, WHAT A GOOD COMPROMISE IS. 
          AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE THERE YET. 
          I THINK DOUG SHARED WITH YOU THE ELEMENTS OF WHAT WE, WHAT WE, WHAT WE'VE HEARD AT THE LAST SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING. 
          UM, AND, AND I THINK WE HAVE A LOT MORE WORK TO DO. 
          I I I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. 
          I'M, I'M USING YOUR TIME, SO LEMME GIVE IT BACK TO YOU AND THEN I'LL JUMP IN. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST ONE LAST COMMENT, RIGHT. 
          IF THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING AUTHORITY, UM, IS TAKING ON THIS INITIATIVE AS A PARTICIPANT, RIGHT? AND GIVEN THE FEDERAL FUNDING THAT OUR PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY HAS, LOOK, I I, I WANNA KNOW HOW LIKE ONE, RIGHT? WE SEE THAT MULTI-FAMILY CAN DO IT AND A HOUSING AUTHORITY THAT'S DEEPLY DIVESTED, UM, CAN'T AFFORD TO DO IT, RIGHT? I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT 
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NUMBER, BUT, UM, GO AHEAD. 
          I'M, I'M, WELL, I MEAN, IS, IS THE HOUSING AUTHORITY BEEN INVOLVED IN ANY OF THESE CONVERSATIONS? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO WE'LL, WE'LL FOLLOW UP ON THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT I WAS SAYING IS THAT I THINK WE HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF WORK STILL TO DO. 
          THE, THE IMPORTANT CONTEXT THAT I WANNA REITERATE TO EVERYBODY IS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THIS BECAUSE THE COUNCIL APPROVED A CLIMATE ACTION PLAN DOCUMENT THAT CALLED FOR THIS TO BE A STRATEGY. 
          AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE DON'T DO IT, THEN WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO OTHER STRATEGIES OR WE'RE GONNA GET IT DONE. 
          BUT THERE'S A, THERE'S A LIST OF WORK THAT WE NEED TO DO COORDINATING WORK. 
          UM, AND, UM, DOUG AND THE TEAM AND THE STAKEHOLDERS HAVE SPENT A A, A LOT OF TIME ON THIS TOPIC. 
          WE'RE NOT DONE YET. 
          UM, SO THIS, THIS POLICY CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNCIL'S BEEN GOOD FOR US TO HEAR. 
          UM, AND, UH, BUT, BUT WE'RE NOT, UH, WE'RE NOT THERE YET. 
          I, I LIKE TO ALSO GIVE THE EXAMPLE OF RESTAURANT SCORES AND LETTER GRADES. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , THERE WAS A DEBATE AT THE COUNCIL FOUR, FIVE YEARS AGO. 
          UM, NOBODY WANTED TO MANDATORILY GIVE THE A'S, B'S OR C'S. 
          THE RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT. 
          AND SO, UM, UH, AND THE COUNCIL WAS SPLIT. 
          SO WE CAME UP WITH A VOLUNTEER PROGRAM AND SAID, YOU CAN HAVE, YOU CAN GET YOUR NUMBER SCORE AND WE'LL GIVE YOU A SLASH. 
          AND IF YOU WANNA WRITE YOUR, YOUR LETTER GRADE, IF YOU GOT A 92, YOU CAN WRITE YOUR A IN THEN HAVE AT IT. 
          AND OVER THE COURSE OF TWO YEARS, WE STOPPED EVEN DISCUSSING MAKING A POLICY OR AN ORDINANCE CHANGE TO REQUIRE THE LETTER GRADE BECAUSE, UM, EVERYBODY WANTS THE LETTER GRADE NOW. 
          AND, AND SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF, OF GOVERNMENT TELLING AN INDUSTRY YOU'RE GONNA DO THIS, THEM REACTING NEGATIVELY AND THEN WE ENDED UP GETTING THERE. 
          ANYWAY, YOU, YOU, ANY RESTAURANT YOU WALK IN IS GONNA HAVE THE LETTER GRADE. 
          UM, AND SO HOW CAN WE, HOW CAN WE APPROACH IT FROM THAT ANGLE? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO SOME MORE WORK ON. 
          THANK YOU FOR ASKING ME, COUNCILMAN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO. 
          THANKS ERIC FOR THE, FOR THE SUMMARY. 
          WELL, WE, WE PROMISED YOU DYNAMIC DEBATE UP HERE. 
          UM, BUT LET ME JUST, UM, TRY TO ELEVATE A LITTLE BIT. 
          UH, THERE HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK HERE ALREADY WITH THIS ORDINANCE. 
          UH, I WANNA REMIND OUR COLLEAGUES AND EVERYBODY WATCHING THAT WE, WE ARE ABSENT FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO I'M SURE HAVE A LOT TO SAY ON THE MATTER MATTER AS WELL, INCLUDING COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. 
          I WANT TO THANK AGAIN, THE COMMITTEES FOR DOING THE WORK. 
          UH, THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST ORDER ITEMS ON THE CAP, WHICH INCLUDES ROUGHLY 80 SOME ODD, UM, STRATEGIES THAT WERE PART OF A COMPROMISE DOCUMENT IN AND OF ITSELF, UH, THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY RATIFIED IN 2019. 
          UH, I'M, I'M A, I'M REFLECTING ON COUNCIL MEMBER K'S COMMENTS ABOUT, I WISH WE COULD MOVE A LITTLE FASTER BECAUSE THE URGENCY IS NOW. 
          UH, BUT I AM REMINDED THAT UM, ABOUT FOUR MONTHS AFTER, UH, WE PASSED THIS DOCUMENT, RATIFIED THE DOCUMENT, WE WERE ALL GRIPPED IN A, IN A GLOBAL PANDEMIC. 
          AND WE REALLY HAVEN'T FULLY EMERGED FROM THAT YET, BUT WE'RE WORKING DILIGENTLY ON THIS. 
          THIS IS A LOT MORE WORK TO BE DONE. 
          UH, AND THIS IS A PREVIEW OF THE MANY DEBATES WE'RE GONNA HAVE. 
          BUT I ALSO WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT ONCE, ONCE WE WORK TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY FROM ALL SIDES OF THIS DEBATE, AND WE FIND A COMPROMISE THAT WILL BE IMPACTFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY, LET'S NOT BE TEMPTED TO RIP VICTORY OUT OF THE, OR RIP UH, RIP DEFEAT OUTTA THE JAWS OF VICTORY WHEN WE HAVE FOLKS ON ALL SIDES OF THE DEBATE COMING TOGETHER TO SAY THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE COMFORTABLE. 
          SO, UM, AGAIN, ACHIEVING AN IMPACT. 
          NOT EVERYBODY GOT WHAT THEY WANT, BUT I THINK THIS IS HEADED IN A VERY STRONG DIRECTION TO ALLOW US TO ACHIEVE OUR OVERALL GOALS. 
          SO AGAIN, THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR, UH, THE GREAT AND DYNAMIC CONVERSATION. 
          UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT STEPS ON THIS, UH, WHICH AREN'T GONNA HAPPEN TOMORROW OBVIOUSLY. 
          SO THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT MORE DIALOGUE TO BE HAD, BUT, UH, I THINK THIS IS MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          SO WITH THAT, UH, I DO NOT BELIEVE WE HAVE AN EXEC TODAY. 
          ANDY, WE CAN DO THAT TOMORROW. 
          YES, CORRECT MAYOR, THAT'S TOMORROW. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, TIME IS 4:22 PM ON THIS EIGHTH DAY OF JUNE, 2022 AND OUR B SESSION IS NOW ADJOURNED.
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