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WE'RE GOOD.

? YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

IT'S TWO O'CLOCK AND I'M CONVENING THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR, UH, JUNE 8TH, 2022.

CAN WE PLEASE HAVE THE SPANISH LANGUAGE INTERPRETER AVAILABILITY? GRA.

THANK YOU.

MS. STAFF, PLEASE CONDUCT THE ROLL CALL.

COMMISSIONER GARCIA.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? HERE.

COMMISSIONER.

UM SCHINDLER.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER MILAM? HERE.

COMMISSIONER ORIAN? HERE.

COMMISSIONER PECK? HERE.

COMMISSIONER CARILLO HAYNES.

PRESENT CHAIR.

PROPHET HERE.

A QUORUM IS PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

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TODAY WE WILL HAVE TWO AGENDA, UH, AGENDAS.

ONE WILL BE A CONSENT.

UM, ALL ITEMS ON THE AGENDA ARE AVAILABLE FOR CONSENT WITH THE EXCEPTIONS OF SEVEN, WHICH HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.

AND ITEMS EIGHT AND NINE, WHICH WILL BE HEARD ON INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

DO I HAVE, UH, A MOTION FOR APPROVAL ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SECOND.

MOTION TO APPROVE BY, UH, COMMISSIONER PECK.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MILAM.

PLEASE CONDUCT THE VOTE.

COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES.

COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES.

COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES.

COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES.

COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES.

COMMISSIONER PECK? YES.

COMMISSIONER CREO HAYNES? YES.

CHAIR, PROFIT? YES.

MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL.

THANK YOU.

[Comprehensive Master Plan Amendments  ]

UH, THERE ARE TWO INDIVIDUAL ITEMS, BUT I, I WANNA START WITH ITEM NUMBER NINE.

UM, CAN, CAN STAFF DO THE PRESENTATION? GOOD AFTERNOON.

MARCO MBI.

PLAN COORDINATOR FOR ZONING.

UH, NUMBER NINE IS LOCATED AT 16,950 JUSTIN ROAD.

UH, THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN GOING FROM SUBURBAN, TIER AND NATURAL TIER TWO, SUBURBAN TIER 23.

NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT.

ZERO IN FAVOR.

THREE OPPOSED? 288.

UM, OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET ARE OPPOSED, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS OR NO? UH, NO RESPONSE FROM THE VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

UH, APPLICANT.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

EMILY WEISLER WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FERMAN.

UM, I WON'T GO INTO DETAILS ON THIS PROJECT, BUT WE'VE BEEN COORDINATING WITH THE VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERSHIP AND WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE AT THIS TIME TO CONTINUE WORKING ON PROJECT PLANS AND A PATH FORWARD TOGETHER.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THEY ARE A THREE INDIVIDUALS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

UH, YOU'RE WELCOME TO TO TALK TODAY.

UH, WE ARE CONSIDERING A CON, A CONTINUANCE, MEANING IT WOULD BE HEARD IN TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.

SO IT'S UP TO YOU WHETHER YOU WOULD LIKE TO TALK.

YOU'D HAVE TWO MINUTES.

UM, YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.

HI, MY NAME IS JENNIFER OATES.

MY ADDRESS IS 5 4 1 9 VISTA RUN DRIVE.

I AM THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND, UM, WE JUST WANTED TO BE HERE FOR THIS MEETING AND A FEW OF US CAME BECAUSE WE ENCOURAGED OTHERS NOT TO COME BECAUSE OF THE CONTINUANCE WE KNEW, UH, HOPEFULLY WOULD BE DONE.

BUT, UH, AT THIS TIME WE ARE AGAINST ANY CHANGES TO THIS PROPERTY.

THANK YOU.

AN ANTONIO CASAS? I AM ANTONIO CASAS AT, UH, 54 59 MOUNTAIN VISTA.

I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT FOR THE ASSOCIATION AND I'M HERE TO SUPPORT, UH, THE ASSOCIATION IN AGAINST THIS, UH, SO REQUEST.

AND,

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UH, WE HAD ASKED, UH, RESIDENTS NOT TO COME TO THIS MEETING 'CAUSE WE, WE WANT TO COME TO THE NEXT MEETING.

SO THANKS FOR HEARING US.

THANK YOU.

UM, MARIE BACHMAN.

I'LL WAIT TILL THE NEXT MEETING.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE TO JUNE 22ND.

IS, IS THAT RIGHT? AT THE NEXT MEETING, I GUESS IF THAT'S EIGHT PLUS 14 RIGHT? MY MATH'S CORRECT.

, UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO THE JUNE, WHAT WAS IT? 22ND.

PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

SECOND.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PECK TO, UH, GRANT THE APPLICANT'S CONTINUATION TO THE JUNE 22ND MEETING.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER, CAN WE PLEASE CONDUCT THE VOTE? COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES.

COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES.

COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES.

COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES.

COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES.

COMMISSIONER PECK? YES.

COMMISSIONER CREO HANES.

YES.

CHAIR PROFIT? YES.

MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE.

THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU FOR COME COMING DOWN.

APPRECIATE IT.

HAVE A GOOD DAY.

UH, NOW I'M BACK TO NUMBER EIGHT.

CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION? GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS ANNE BENAVIDEZ AND I'M A ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE WEST SOUTHWEST SECTOR.

PLAN FROM GENERAL URBAN TIER TO MIXED USE LOCATED AT 1 2 6 NORTHWEST 36TH STREET.

THERE ARE 10 MO NOTICES MAILED OUT WITH ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR AND THREE RETURN IN OPPOSITION.

MEMORIAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS ALSO IN OPPOSITION AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM LOS PUENTES NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

THE APPLICANT SEEKS A PLAN AMENDMENT TO MIXED USE TO REZONE TO I D Z THREE HIGH INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR 20 DWELLING UNITS.

THE PROPOSED MIXED USE LAND USE IS NOT APPROPRIATE AND IS COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE LAND USE IN THE AREA.

THE HIGHER INTENSITY LAND USAGE WOULD INTRODUCE A LEVEL OF DENSITY THAT IS INAPPROPRIATE FOR THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

WHILE THE SECTOR PLAN ENCOURAGES NEW HOUSING TYPES, THE PROPOSED DENSITY OF 20 UNITS IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY.

FURTHERMORE, UNDER THE CURRENT LAND USE OF GENERAL URBAN TIER, THE APPLICANT RE COULD REQUEST REZONING TO MF 33 FOR APPROXIMATELY 16 UNITS.

STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

UH, IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? IF YOU CAN PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.

FALCON, FALCON PARK, AND TEXAS.

MY NAME IS JESSICA FALCON AND MY ADDRESS IS 8 8 7 FALCON PARK.

ROBERTO MARTINEZ.

WE ARE HERE REPRESENTING MR. ROBERTO MARTINEZ BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO DEVELOP 20 UNITS.

THE SIZE OF THE LAND IS A HALF OF ACRE AND WE WANT TO MAXIMIZE THE USE OF THAT LAND.

WE ARE WORKING IN THIS PROJECT AND ALSO OUR INTENT IS TO HELP THE COMMUNITY TO GROW.

M AND THE OWNER.

WE ARE NOW THE OWNERS.

WE ARE GOING TO BE THE DEVELOPERS, THE OWNER AND HIS WIFE.

THEY'RE GOING TO LIVE THERE IN THE PROPERTY.

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ROBERTO, THE OWNER MR. ROBERTO CAN TALK TO? YES.

MM-HMM.

.

THANK YOU.

HELLO.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, MY NAME IS ROBERTO STO AND THE THE PROJECT WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DEVELOP FOR, FOR THE PAST FEW MONTHS.

SPEAK YOUR ADDRESS.

MY ADDRESS? YOUR ADDRESS.

1 4, 1, 2, 2.

CHURCH OF ESTATE APARTMENT 1603 SAN ANTONIO TECA, 7 8 2 4 8 UHHUH .

BASICALLY WE WERE, UH, TRYING TO DEVELOP THIS, THIS LAND FOR, UH, FOR AROUND 20 CONDOS.

UM, UH, THE, THE PEOPLE THAT IS AGAINST US, THEY SAY THAT THEY, THEY, THEY HAVE THEIR, THEIR VISION OF THIS PROJECT, THAT THEY SAY THAT THEY, UH, DON'T WANT ANY MORE, UH, CORRUPTION OR, OR PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, MANDATES IN THE AREAS, UH, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND WE PERSONALLY WILL BE ABLE TO, TO TO MANAGE ALL THE, ALL THE CONDOS BE THERE SO THAT IT BE A CLEAN AREA, YOU KNOW, AND NOT AN EMPTY LOT WHERE A LOT OF HOMELESS LIVING THE, IN THAT LOT INSIDE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, TRASH INSIDE THE LOT AND EVERYTHING.

SO THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE, WHAT WE LIKE TO DO.

IT'LL BE A GREEN AREA.

UH, BEST OF THE BEST.

THANK YOU.

UH, THERE ARE, UH, SOME PEOPLE TO SPEAK AND THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO CALL THEM UP.

UH, RICHARD GARCIA, IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONER NURSE RICHARD GARCIA.

1 6 6 TESLA DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 8.

I'M PRESIDENT OF MEMORIAL.

MEMORIAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

AND WE'VE BEEN, UH, A REGISTERED ASSOCIATION SINCE 1998.

AND THERE'S ONLY THREE THINGS THAT WE DO FOR OUR ASSOCIATION.

THREE THINGS AND THREE THINGS ONLY.

WE ADVOCATE, ADVOCATE, ADVOCATE.

UH, WE DID HAVE A MEETING WITH THE APPLICANT JUST LAST WEEK, AND IT WAS A WASTE OF TIME.

SHE LEFT MORE QUESTIONS FOR US THAN ANSWERS WE HAVE.

AND IT WAS WITH DISTRICT FIVE.

ALL SHE COULD TELL IS THAT THIS IS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND FOR PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY RENT, THAT TELLS US, WHAT ARE YOU BRINGING INTO OUR AREA? ARE YOU BRINGING A HOMELESS SHELTER? SHE COULD GIVE US NO ANSWERS.

NO, THERE'S NOTHING CONCRETE OR DEFINITIVE THAT YOU COULD GIVE US.

WE'RE VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IN OUR AREA, WE HAVE ALREADY MORE THAN 24 HOW, HOW A MULTI-FAMILY USE IT.

WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY SOON, WE'RE NOT EVEN GONNA BE AN ASSOCIATION IF YOU ALLOW THIS.

BUT WE'RE, WE'RE ADAMANTLY AGAINST THIS.

MY MEMBERS AND MYSELF WE'RE SO, WE'RE 200 MEMBERS, WE'RE ADAMANTLY AGAINST IT AND WE'RE READY TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL AND FIGHT THIS IF WE HAVE TO.

WE DON'T SEE HOW THIS IS GONNA BENEFIT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM THERE.

IT'S, IT'S A VERY NARROW AREA.

AREA THERE.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S VERY, VERY NARROW.

IT'S WHAT'S ALMOST HALF AN ACRE.

UH, WE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT DRAINAGE.

WHAT ABOUT THE DRAINAGE? WHAT ABOUT PARKING? WHAT ABOUT SECURITY LIGHTS? SHE COULD NEVER ANSWER ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS.

LIKE I SAID, ALL SHE COULD TELL US WAS, OH, IT'S ONLY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY RENT.

AND, AND ALSO WE DON'T SEE HOW THIS IS GONNA BENEFIT, BENEFIT OUR AREA.

THERE'S TWO SCHOOLS NEARBY THERE, A CHARTER SCHOOL, A IDEA SCHOOL IN ST.

JOHN BOSCO.

AND ALSO THERE'S A CHILDCARE.

WHO'S GONNA, WHO'S GONNA SCREEN ALL THESE APPLICANTS COMING IN? WHAT ABOUT IF THERE'S A, A REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER? SO HONESTLY, WE WE'RE, WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, AND WE'LL CONTINUE FIGHTING THIS AND OPPOSING THIS.

I KNOW IT'S GOING TO ZONING ON JUNE 21ST, TUESDAY, JUNE 21ST.

BUT WE'RE HERE READY TO OPPOSE IT.

AND WE'RE TIRED AND SICK OF LAND DEVELOPERS COMING INTO OUR AREA, BENEFITED AT, AT OUR OWN, AT OUR OWN EXPENSE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UH, IS IT AG? I GOT, I GOT PETE HOW TO MIO, HOW AGGIE.

YOU CAN PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.

GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS AGA PITA HARAMI.

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF LOS PUENTES NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

I RESIDE AT 46 0 7 ELIZABETH ALLEN ON BEHALF OF LOS PUENTES NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

WE ARE OPPOSING THE REQUEST TO CHANGE THE PROPERTY AT 1 26 NORTHWEST 36 ZONING CASE, PA 20 22 1 1 6 1 1 1 6 0 0 0 4 2.

FROM A GENERAL URBAN TIER TO A MIXED YOUTH CENTER.

THIS AREA IS A HIGHLY DENSE MULTIFAMILY AREA, WHICH INCLUDES A PRIVATE SCHOOL AND A CHARTER CAMPUS.

AND REALISTICALLY, THE LOT IS TOO SMALL.

IT'S TOO SMALL TO BUILD THESE UNITS.

AND BY CHANGING IT TO A MIXED USE CENTER WOULD ALLOW FOR THE OWNERS TO, TO ADD DIFFERENT USES, YOU KNOW, SUCH AS RE RESTAURANTS, STORES, WHATEVER THEY WANNA DO OR BUILD.

THREE OR FOUR, UH, STORY FACILITY.

AGAIN, WE WANT TO KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MULTIFAMILY,

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GIVE OUR NEIGHBORS, UM, THE, THE OPTION TO HAVE OWNERSHIP.

THIS TYPE OF UNITS TEND TO BRING IN CRIME AND PROBLEMS, AND WE HAVE TOO MANY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ALREADY.

UM, UH, IT'S JUST, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT FOR IT.

UH, WE'VE ALREADY HAVE SOME APARTMENTS NEARBY THE PAN-AMERICAN AND I HAVE, YOU KNOW, UH, I, I, I WENT AND GOT AN, UH, AN INCIDENT, UH, LIST AND WE HAVE TOO MUCH ALREADY.

UM, YES, YOU CAN DO BACKGROUND CHECKS.

YES, YOU CAN HAVE THE LANDLORDS LIVING THERE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE ASSURANCE.

WE NEVER DO.

IT STARTS OUT VERY NICE AND THEY, WE BRING IN PEOPLE AND THEN WE END UP HAVING, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PROBLEMS. AND WE WANT THE BEST TOO.

WE WANT SAFETY.

WE, WE, WE WANT A NICE, BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND, UM, BUILD A, A HOME THERE.

BUILD UP MAYBE TWO HOMES, BUT NOT 16, 20 UNITS, YOU KNOW.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AND THEN IN OUR AREA, I'M GONNA BE HONEST WITH YOU, UH, SOMEONE MOVES IN AND THEN THE AUNT MOVES IN.

THE BOYFRIEND MOVES IN.

WE DON'T HAVE BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR THEM.

UM, AND IT'S VERY CONGESTED.

UH, IT'S JUST NOT A GOOD IDEA.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

UM, TERRY KILMER.

HELLO AGAIN.

UH, I AM TERRY KILMER LOMA PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

6 5 5 MARIA ELENA DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO.

UH, AS YOU'LL HEARD ME YESTERDAY, SAY THAT I AM, MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS VERY DEAR TO ME, AND I AM THE VEHICLE BETWEEN YOU AND MY COMMUNITY IN MY COMMUNITY.

IT WAS SO BEAUTIFUL WHEN IT STARTED OUT.

BUT NOW WE HAVE, LIKE I SAID, METHADONE CLINICS A MECCA FOR HOMELESS.

UH, YOU RENT, UH, THE ONE PERSON DIES AND THEY, THEY SELL THE HOUSE AND THEN THE HEIRS, THEY DON'T FIX IT.

THEY DON'T LIVE THERE.

THEY RENT IT OUT AND THEY RENT IT OUT TO ONE PERSON.

AND 20 MOVING OUR STREETS ARE LIKE PARKING LOTS BECAUSE THERE MAY BE 2015 CONTRACTORS AND THEY ALL LIVE IN ONE HOUSE.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

HOW CAN WE DO IT? HOW CAN WE STOP IT? WE HAVE PROSTITUTION, WE HAVE DRUGS.

DO WE NEED ANYMORE? WE ARE AN R SIX.

CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT AN R SIX COVERS? SINGLE FAMILY, ONE HOUSE, ONE FAMILY.

RIGHT.

AND THAT IS NOT CASE.

AND NO MATTER HOW WE REPORT IT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, COVID, I MEAN, THEY SAY WE DO NOT HAVE THE PEOPLE TO GO AND INVESTIGATE OR MAYBE THE REPORTS DON'T GO THERE.

BUT WE NEED YOUR HELP.

AND WE DO NOT NEED ANY MORE NEGATIVISM IN OUR AREA HERE IN, UH, DECEMBER OF OH THREE.

WE WERE DESIGNATED OH SIX IN OH SIX.

WE WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO REMAIN SINGLE FAMILY, SINGLE HOMES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

UH, APPLICANT.

UM, WE, UM, PARDON ME, CHAIR.

WE DO HAVE ONE VOICEMAIL TO PLAY.

OKAY.

THANKS.

OH, HELLO.

YES.

MY NAME IS ROSIE GARCIA AND MY, UH, ADDRESS HERE IS 1 6 6 TESLA DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO TWO EIGHT.

PHONE NUMBER TWO TEN FOUR THREE FIVE TWO TWO NINE SEVEN.

AND I WAS CALLING JUST TO, UM, ON THIS, UM, CASE, UH, THE PA 2022.

UM, THE LAST THREE NUMBERS ARE 0 42.

UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I WANTED TO KEEP IT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT STAYS UNDER, UM, RESIDENTIAL, THE R SIX.

'CAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE TRYING TO CHANGE IT.

UM, WE DON'T NEED IT CHANGE INTO ANYTHING ELSE.

WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THIS, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, NOT AS, NOT AS POPULATED WHERE THE, THERE'S TOO MUCH TRAFFIC, TOO MUCH CARS.

UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S COMING IN AND OUT.

WE'D LIKE TO KNOW OUR NEIGHBORS AND WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT AS A RESIDENTIAL IN R SIX.

SO IF YOU CAN PLEASE KEEP IT THAT WAY.

AND I AM A REGISTERED VOTER.

UM, THANK YOU.

BYE-BYE.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S JUST THE ONE VOICEMAIL.

OKAY.

THE APPLICANT AND OR OWNER, DO YOU HAVE A RESPONSE REBUTTAL? YES.

UH, A FEW DAYS AGO I WENT TO THE AREA AND ASKED TO EVERY NEIGHBOR THAT IS JUST AROUND THE, THE, THE, THE LOT THAT IS JUST AROUND THE LOT UHHUH.

AND I ASKED WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND, AND I COLLECTED, UH, FIVE, FIVE SIGNATURES OF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT LIVES AROUND

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THAT THEY DON'T OPPOSE TO THIS PROJECT.

THEY THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF HOMELESS LIVING IN THE AREA.

YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TRASH IN THIS AREA.

YOU KNOW, A NICE COMPLEX OF CONDOS WOULD BE GREAT.

YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY WILL TAKE CARE OF IT AND EVERYTHING.

IT'D BE BETTER THAN HAVING THE LAND, YOU KNOW, BY ITSELF FULL OF, UH, ANIMALS, DEAD ANIMALS, TRASH AND HOMELESS.

SO, AND I HAVE, I COLLECTED THE SIGNATURES HERE.

I HAVE THEM HERE, UH, WITH THE TELEPHONE NUMBERS AND THEIR NAMES AS WELL.

I HAVE FIVE ALREADY NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE EXACTLY AROUND THE AREA.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS.

I'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER SIEGEL IF SHE'S STILL ON.

I AM, I AM HERE.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO THE STAFF REPORT THAT WE RECEIVED, UH, SAID THAT, UM, THE PROPERTY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED R SIX, THE, THE LAND USE, UM, UH, CURRENTLY WOULD ALLOW IT TO BE REZONED TO A MULTIFAMILY PROPERTY THAT WOULD HOLD FEWER UNITS.

UM, BUT IT WOULD NOT NECESSITATE A LAND USE AMENDMENT.

UM, IS THE APPLICANT AMENABLE TO THAT? SIR? DID, SHE'S ASKING A QUESTION.

SHE'S, UH, BASICALLY WHAT SHE'S ASKING FOR IS INSTEAD OF REQUESTING THE IDZ THREE, UH, FOR UP TO 20 DWELLING UNITS, UH, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THE, UH, A LESSER AMOUNT OF UNITS LIKE 16? OF COURSE, YES.

AND I THINK THE COMMISSIONER'S ASKING WHETHER YOU'RE OPEN TO THAT, UH, WHICH WOULD NOT REQUIRE PLAN AMENDMENT CHANGE, IT WOULD BUILD 16 UNITS.

IN OTHER WORDS, IT WOULDN'T REQUIRE THIS, THIS SECOND STEP TO CHANGE THE LAND USE.

YOU WOULD JUST BE, UH, LOOKING AT REZONING TO LIKE A MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT.

OKAY, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

WELL, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

SO I GUESS, AND UH, FOLLOW A FOLLOW UP QUESTION IS WHETHER THE, UM, APPLICANT HAS WORKED WITH THE HOMEOWNERS THAT SPOKE TODAY TO HELP ALLAY SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, I MEAN THEY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROPERTY, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY HAVE MUCH LARGER CONCERNS ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AS A WHOLE.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS APPLICANT COULD REALLY HELP OUT WITH THAT PARTICULARLY.

BUT, UM, HAVE YOU TRIED WORKING WITH THOSE NEIGHBORS WHO WERE HERE TO OBJECT TODAY AND SPECIFICALLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION? EXCUSE ME, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND VERY WELL.

SHE'S ASKING IF, UH, YOU HAD, UH, WORKED WITH THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THE PEOPLE WHO HEARD WITH TODAY? NO, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

NOT, I JUST BEEN COLLECTING SIGNATURES FROM THE PEOPLE THAT LIVES AROUND THE AREA, BASICALLY.

YEAH, WE HAD A, A, MY CONSTRUCTOR HAD A MILLION LAST WEEK AND THEY, THEY DON'T WANT THE PROJECT FOR ANY, FOR ANY REASON.

OKAY.

UH, I'LL START DOWN ON MY LEFT.

I THINK THAT'S COMMISSIONER GARCIA.

THANK YOU.

WELL, IT SEEMS THAT THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE AROUND THERE HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE AND ARE VERY CONCERNED.

I JUST WONDER IF, UH, LIKE THE QUESTION THAT LED UP TO THIS IS COULD THEY STILL TAKE SOME TIME AND, AND TALK AND SEE IF THEY COULD, UH, COME TO SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT THAT WE GREAT.

YES.

UH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF AT, CAN YOU DISCUSS THE SURROUNDING, UH, LAND USE, THE ACTUAL USES, AND WHETHER THEY'RE IN LINE WITH THE DOCUMENTED, UH, PLAN USE OR, OR, OR ARE THEY MORE IN LINE WITH THE PROPOSED PLAN USE? SO THE PROPERTY, UH, IMMEDIATELY TO THE LEFT OF THIS ONE IS ZONED R SIX AND IT'S CURRENTLY BEING USED AS A CHURCH.

UM, THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET, I ALSO BELIEVE THAT ONE IS ZONED R SIX AND IT IS A CHILDCARE CENTER.

UM, THERE'S SOME MF 33 ACROSS THE WAY AND THOSE ARE CURRENTLY BEING USED AS APARTMENT BUILDINGS.

AND THEN THERE ARE THREE R SIXES BEHIND THIS LOT.

AND THERE ARE CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.

AND THEN I THINK THERE'S SOME COMMERCIAL ON THE, ON THE SIDE, THE LAST SIDE THAT'S REMAINING, UM, THAT IS, UH, CURRENTLY BEING OCCUPIED BY A BUSINESS AND I BELIEVE THEY SELL, UH, MATERIALS FOR HOMES.

OKAY.

SO, UH, DO YOU, SO IN YOUR OPINION, DO YOU FEEL LIKE THE SURROUNDING LAND USE IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH, UH, GENERAL URBAN TIER OR MIXED USE TIER, YOU KNOW, AS, AS IT'S BEING USED TODAY?

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UM, I THINK THAT MIXED USE HAS, UH, LIKE HIGHER INTENSITY USES ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

I DON'T KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S, UH, DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON AROUND THERE, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY HAVE THAT HIGHER INTENSITY.

I THINK THAT THE CURRENT LAND USE IS MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MM-HMM.

, MR. SCHINDLER.

UM, I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I DO FEEL THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE OWNERSHIP WAS ILL-INFORMED FOR WHATEVER REASON OR NOT INFORMED BECAUSE THEY, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY TOOK NECESSARY ACTION TO TALK WITH CITY STAFF, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE COMING TO A RESOLUTION.

UM, SO I SUPPORT DENIAL AS IS STAFF REC STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

COMMISSIONER MILAN, GOOD TO BE LAST.

EVERYONE'S ASKED WHAT I WAS INTERESTED IN.

THANK YOU.

SO I HAVE QUESTIONS, UM, PROCEDURALLY FOR THIS BODY.

UM, SO IF, IF WE GO WITH STAFF'S DENIAL, WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE APPLICANT AND UM, IS THERE ANOTHER OPTION? I MEAN, 'CAUSE I GUESS A, IF HE'S, IF HE GOES BACK AND TALKS TO STAFF, A CHANGE IN LAND USE MIGHT NOT BE NECESSARY AND THEN THUS IT WOULDN'T COME BACK TO THIS BODY.

SO IS IS A DENIAL, THE PROPER STEP FOR THIS BODY TO ALLOW THAT PROCESS TO PROCEED AND HIM TO GO BACK AND TALK TO STAFF? I WOULD SAY THERE'D PROBABLY BE MORE FLEXIBILITY AND A CONTINUANCE JUST IN CASE SOMETHING NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN, IN THE IN BETWEEN.

UH, PLUS IT GIVES US THAT OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH HIM ON WHETHER OR NOT THE OPTIONS, UH, TO LEAVE THE LAND USE ALONE WOULD WORK FOR HIM.

UH, 'CAUSE THERE'D PROBABLY BE SOME SEVERAL FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD ASK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ANY SUBDIVISION OF PROPERTY OR IF THERE ARE, UH, MULTIPLE UNITS ON ONE LOT.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ASKED ABOUT IF HE WANTED TO AMEND TO DO LESS UNITS.

OKAY.

SO A A A DENIAL WOULD, COULD KICK HIM OUT OF THE SYSTEM AND MAYBE START THINGS OVER WHEREAS A CONTINUANCE WOULD ALLOW THE CONVERSATION TO CONTINUE? YES.

OKAY.

UM, I WOULD SUPPORT A CONTINUANCE JUST FOR THE RECORD.

COMMISSIONER PECK, UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT AGAIN, LIKE YOU GUYS WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, I THINK A CONTINUANCE IS THE WAY TO GO ON THIS, UM, ALLOWS THE APPLICANT TO MEET WITH THE H O A AROUND THE AREA, UM, TO SEE IF THEY CAN COME TO SOME TYPE OF RESOLUTION AND THEN ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO VET WITH THE CITY WHETHER HE WANTS TO GO WITH MF 33, WHICH WOULD ALLOW HIM, WHAT IS IT, 16 UNITS VERSUS THE 20 HE'S ASKING FOR RIGHT NOW.

SO I THINK THAT CONTINUANCE WOULD ALLOW ALL THOSE THINGS TO HAPPEN, AND THEN MAYBE IT COMES BACK, MAYBE IT DOESN'T.

I'LL MAKE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR THE CONTIN TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO THE, UH, JUNE 22ND PLANNING COMMISSION.

ONE, ONE SECOND.

UH, VICE CHAIR HAS ANOTHER QUESTION.

UM, I'LL SECOND THAT, BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

UM, HAVE YOU WORKED WITH, UH, THE COUNCIL OFFICE AND WHERE AND DOES, OR DOES STAFF KNOW WHERE THE COUNCIL DISTRICT OFFICE STANDS ON THIS? NO.

NO, NO.

I'M NOT, NOT YET.

I, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WORKING WITH THEM AS WELL.

OKAY.

THAT WOULD GOOD.

I SECOND THAT MOTION.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

BEFORE I, I TAKE THE VOTE, UH, I JUST WANT TO ECHO THOSE COMMENTS.

YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS, IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US, UH, AS IT IS CURRENTLY, UH, DESIGNATED FOR PLAN USE.

YOU CAN DO SOME MULTIFAMILY, BUT YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS THOSE, THE CONCERNS THAT THE NEIGHBOR HAS, UH, WITH YOUR PROPOSED PROJECT.

AND, UH, JUST IN GENERAL, I THINK ENGAGING WITH YOUR DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, TO ALL THE CONCERNS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BROUGHT UP ABOUT CRIME AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST, UH, THE CONCERNS YOU HAVE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THE DISTRICT, OFFER, WORK WITH YOUR SAFE OFFICERS TO, UH, TO ADDRESS THOSE THINGS.

BUT, UH, IN FRONT OF US, WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, FOR CONTINUANCE, UH, TO JUNE 22ND BY, UH, COMMISSIONER PECK A SECOND.

UH, BY VICE CHAIR CREO HAYNES.

UH, CAN WE TAKE THE VOTE, PLEASE? COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES.

COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES.

COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES.

COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES.

COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES.

UM, COMMISSIONER PECK? YES.

COMMISSIONER CARILLO HAYNES? YES.

CHAIR PROFIT? YES.

MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING TODAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, ON THE AGENDA IS THE MINUTES.

UH, ARE THERE

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ANY, UH, CORRECTIONS, EDITS, COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES? HEARING NONE WILL TAKE A VOICE VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? I ABSTAIN.

MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL.

ALRIGHT, IS THERE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT? NOTHING TODAY.

ALRIGHT.

IT IS TWO 30 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.

HAVE A GREAT DAY.