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          I LIKE AUSTIN, BUT I LOVE SANTO AND HEAD BACK DOWN THE ROAD. 
          SO I, BUT I LOVE SAN AND WE'RE, SO, I, I, SAN ANTONIO. 
          IN SAN ANTONIO, PUNTO. 
          GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. 
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THANK YOU, UH, FOR YOUR PATIENCE. 
          THE TIME IS 9:27 AM ON THE 16TH DAY OF JUNE, 2022. 
          UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE YET TO TAKE YOUR SEATS, IF YOU CAN PLEASE FIND YOUR WAY TO THEM. 
          UH, WE'LL CALL OUR MEETING TO ORDER. 
          MADAM CLERK, COULD YOU READ THE ROLE? COUNCIL MEMBER BRAVO. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER MAKI RODRIGUEZ. 
          PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER VRAN. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CAB HDA. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ELIAS IS HERE VIRTUALLY. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE PRESENT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. 
          HERE. 
          MAYOR NUREMBERG. 
          HERE, SIR. 
          WE HAVE A QUORUM. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          GOOD MORNING AGAIN, EVERYONE. 
          UM, WE HAVE A LOT TO GET TO TODAY AND A FEW SPECIAL GUESTS IN OUR AUDIENCE THIS MORNING. 
          UH, BUT BEFORE WE START, LEMME TURN IT OVER TO COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE TO WELCOME OUR INDICATOR. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THIS MORNING, WE HAVE THE PLEASURE OF HAVING WITH US RABBI RICKY ARRAD. 
          RABBI, WOULD YOU COME FORWARD? UH, RABBI RICKY IS THE RABBI AND THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR CONGREGATION A HAKIM. 
          BEFORE HER ARRIVAL TO CONGREGATION A AGU DE HAKIM, RABBI RICKY WAS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO RESCUERS WITHOUT BORDERS. 
          RESCUERS WITHOUT BORDERS IS AN ISRAELI VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION WITH A NETWORK OF 1600 MEDICS, PARAMEDICS AND DOCTORS WHO ARE COMMITTED TO SAVING LIVES. 
          THEY WORK WITHIN, UH, THEY WORK AROUND THE WORLD. 
          MORE THAN 6,000 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TRAINED BY RESCUERS WITHOUT BORDERS, AND NOW HAVE MEDICAL TEAMS IN 14 COUNTRIES, A SEASONED LEADER IN A NONPROFIT AND PHILANTHROPIC SPACE. 
          RABBI RICKY ALSO SERVED AS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO THE CONGREGATION, BENAY TORAH. 
          IN BOCA RATAN, FLORIDA, ONE OF THE LARGEST AND MOST VIBRANT SYNAGOGUES IN THE US. 
          SHE WAS KNOWN AS THE ORGANIZATION'S WONDER WOMAN. 
          UH, AND IN 2019 WAS AWARDED A FELLOWSHIP IN SYNAGOGUE ADMINISTRATION BY THE NORTH AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF SYNAGOGUE EXECUTIVES. 
          SHE'S ALSO SERVED AS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND LEAD FUNDRAISER OF THE SOUTHEAST REGION FOR BENNI ZION. 
          UH, FOUNDATION ON THE BOARD AS THE ON THE BOARD OF FACE, THE MUSIC FOUNDATION, ONE WHO SAVES LIVES, SAVES THE ENTIRE WORLD. 
          RABBI RICKY IS PASSIONATE ABOUT HUMANITARIAN AID AND TECUM, OLA, DEVELOPING DIVERSE AND DYNAMIC ORGANIZATIONS AND EMPOWERING PEOPLE OF ALL WALKS OF LIFE. 
          WELCOME, RABBI. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. JOHN. 
          COURAGE. 
          YOU HAD THE COURAGE TO INVITE SOMEONE WHO IS NEW HERE TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          THANK YOU FOR RISING FOR THE, FOR THE INVOCATION. 
          SHALOM. 
          BLESSED ARE YOU OUR GOD KING OF THE UNIVERSE, WHO HAS SANCTIFIED US WITH THE COMMANDMENT TO IMMERSE OURSELVES IN THE NEEDS 
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OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          THIS IS A BLESSING THAT THE JEWISH PEOPLE RECITE BEFORE UNDERTAKING PUBLIC WORK, SO THAT WE ARE REMINDED THAT OUR REPRESENTATION OF OUR COMMUNITY IS SACRED. 
          EACH AND EVERY PERSON SITTING HERE IN THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETING TODAY FULFILLS THE MOST IMPORTANT OBLIGATION TO BE A STEWARD OF OUR DIVERSE COMMUNITY. 
          DEAR GOD, GRANT US THE WISDOM AND THE FORESIGHT TO MAKE FAIR AND EQUITABLE DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF OUR SACRED COMMUNITY WITH INCLUSIVITY AND RESPECT FOR ALL CITIZENS. 
          PLEASE HELP US ACHIEVE THE BEST POSSIBLE OUTCOME FOR EACH AND EVERY PERSON OF SAN ANTONIO, SAN ANTONIO, REGARDLESS OF THEIR CULTURE, RELIGION, GENDER, OR LIFESTYLE. 
          AND LET US, GOD, DO IT WITH JOY AND LET US ALL SAY AMEN. 
          THANK YOU RABBI RICKY AND WELCOME. 
          THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA TODAY IS THE APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES OF JUNE 1ST AND JUNE 2ND, 2022. 
          THOSE ARE IN YOUR PACKET. 
          I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THOSE MINUTES. 
          THERE'S A MOTION, A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. 
          MINUTES JUNE ONE, JUNE 2ND, 2022. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. 
          CAN WE GET A, UH, WE'LL NEED A VERBAL VOTE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER PIA AYE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
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BEFORE WE GET INTO OUR AGENDA TODAY, UM, WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR, UH, THAT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO HAS OFFICIALLY OBSERVED JUNETEENTH, UH, MAKING JUNETEENTH THE CITYWIDE HOLIDAY WAS, WITHOUT A DOUBT, THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND LONG OVERDUE ON THE HUNDRED 57TH ANNIVERSARY OF A DAY THAT WAS HISTORICALLY NEGLECTED, UH, LET US RESOLVE TO REACH A MORE JUST AND EQUITABLE SOCIETY IMMEDIATELY. 
          UH, AND TO HELP US RECOGNIZE THE OCCASION, I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR VERY OWN CITY EMPLOYEE, UH, RASHANDA. 
          COME ON UP. 
          WELCOME RASHANDA. 
          SHE IS THE DESCENDANT OF THE WILSON POTTERS, WHO ARE THE FIRST BLACK ENTREPRENEURS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, UH, FOUNDED THE H WILSON AND COMPANY POTTERY. 
          UH, AND SHE WILL BE HERE, UH, TO HELP US OBSERVE, UH, IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE RISE AND RASHA WILL BLESS US WITH THE BLACK NATIONAL ANTHEM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          LIFT EVERY VOICE AND SING TILL EARTH RING. 
          RING WITH THE LET OUR JOY RISE HIGH AS THE SKIES. 
          LET IT SOUND LOUD AS THE ROLL. 
          SING A SONG FULL OF THE FAITH THAT THE DARK PAST HAS TAUGHT US. 
          SING SONG FULL OF THE HOPE THAT THE PRESENT HAS BROUGHT 
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US FACING THE RIGHT OF A NEW DAY. 
          BEGUN. 
          LET US MARCH ON UNTIL VICTORY IS ONE. 
          THANK YOU, RASHONDA. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UM, I WORKED DOWN THE HALL FROM RASHONDA AND ONE DAY RAN INTO HER AND SHE TOLD ME ABOUT HER FAMILY'S ANCESTRY AND REMINDED ME JUST THE FOUNDATION, UH, THAT IS BUILT HERE IN SAN ANTONIO UNDER OUR OWN ROOFS, AND SOMETIMES WE NEVER EVEN KNOW IT. 
          SO RASHONDA, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, FOR YOUR HELP IN US RECOGNIZING HOW FAR WE'VE COME AND, AND ALSO HOW FAR WE HAVE YET TO GO. 
          UM, COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, THIS YEAR WE WILL COLLECTIVELY HONOR THE JUNETEENTH THIS SUNDAY, JUNE 19TH, TO HONOR THE ORIGINAL TEXAS CELEBRATION OF JUNE 19TH, 1865. 
          WHEN NEARLY 250,000 ENSLAVED AFRICAN AMERICANS RECEIVED A AWARD FROM FEDERAL TROOPS THAT THEY WERE EMANCIPATED YEARS AFTER THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION WAS ISSUED. 
          WE ARE A COUNTRY BUILT ON THE GENOCIDE OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLE AND ENSLAVEMENT OF AFRICAN PEOPLE, AND WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO RECOGNIZE THE HARM WHICH STILL PERMEATES OUR COMMUNITY IN SYSTEMIC AND PERSONAL WAYS. 
          JUNETEENTH IS NOW A FEDERAL HOLIDAY IN OUR COUNTRY'S SECOND INDEPENDENCE DAY, AND I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT. 
          OUR SECOND INDEPENDENCE DAY AS A CELEBRATION, JUNE JUNETEENTH UPLIFTS THE DEPTH BEAUTY, RESILIENCY, CREATIVITY, WEALTH, AND TENACITY OF BLACK PEOPLE. 
          AND IT IS A REMINDER THAT NONE OF US ARE FREE UNTIL ALL OF US ARE FREE. 
          THERE WILL BE SEVERAL EVENTS FOR US ALL TO JOIN THIS WEEKEND IN CELEBRATION, AND MOST NOTABLY, THE FREEDOM CELEBRATION AT COMANCHE PARK. 
          NUMBER TWO, BEGINNING TOMORROW THROUGH SUNDAY FROM 11:00 AM TO ONE TO 11:00 PM I WANNA THANK THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO HAVE FOUGHT FOR THE JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION TO BE WHAT IT IS TODAY AND TO CONTINUE GROWING AND IMPACT AND ATTENDEES. 
          MORE INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND@JUNETEENTHSANANTONIO.COM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ. 
          ALRIGHT, UH, BEFORE, ONE MORE THING, BEFORE WE DO GET INTO OUR AGENDA, I WANNA RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER KIO HDA WITH A SPECIAL GUEST. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, MAYOR COUNCILWOMAN, DR. 
          R GARCIA. 
          AND I WANNA CONGRATULATE THE STEVENS HIGH SCHOOL LAW ENFORCEMENT STUDENTS WHO WON FIRST PLACE AT THE 13TH ANNUAL SOUTHWEST TEXAS JUNIOR COLLEGE CRIMINAL JUSTICE COMPETITION. 
          IF YOU GUYS WANNA STAND UP, , THEY WERE THE BEST OF 30 TEAMS FROM ACROSS THE STATE THAT COMPETED IN 13 EVENTS, INCLUDING FINGERPRINTING, PUSHUPS, SIT-UPS, PAT DOWN, FRISK, SEARCH AND ARREST, UH, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, CRIMINAL JUSTICE QUIZ BOWL, A MILE AND A HUNDRED METER RUN AMONG MANY OTHER EVENTS. 
          WELCOME THE, THE STEVENS HIGH SCHOOL. 
          SO WELCOME TO YOU STEVENS HIGH SCHOOL LAW, LAW ENFORCEMENT STUDENTS, AND THE COMPETITION. 
          I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND THE COMPETITION THAT THEY WON WAS HELD AT THE SOUTH TEXAS JUNIOR COLLEGE CAMPUS IN UVALDE JUST ONE MONTH BEFORE THE HORRIFIC EVENT OF MAY 24TH. 
          WE THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR, YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. 
          THEY'VE BEEN INCREDIBLE STEWARDS OF, OF CITIZENSHIP IN IN DISTRICT FOUR. 
          THEY ARE TECHNICALLY IN DISTRICT FOUR. 
          UM, BUT I HAVE A CONNECTION TO STEVENS HIGH SCHOOL, SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNEW HOW WELL YOU DID AND THAT US HOMEGROWN STUDENTS OF OUR OWN ARE WINNING THESE WONDERFUL STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          AND I'LL PASS IT OVER TO, TO COUNCILWOMAN, UH, DR. 
          ROJA GARCIA. 
          THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN, AND CONGRATULATIONS, UH, STEVENS HIGH SCHOOL. 
          YOU ALL MAKE ME SO PROUD. 
          THERE'S SEVERAL PROGRAMS OVER AT STEVENS THAT I, I THINK, MERIT ATTENTION, BUT THANK YOU COUNCILMAN FOR, FOR BRINGING THIS, UH, THE COUNCILMAN'S CHAIR OF PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          AND SO SHE REALLY BELIEVES IN THE FUTURE OF, UM, OF NOT ONLY OUR STUDENTS, BUT THE FUTURE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. 
          AND I JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR, UH, BEING WILLING TO, UM, BE IN THE, THE COMPETITION. 
          I KNOW THAT IT TAKES AWAY FROM SOME OF YOUR STUDIES, BUT YOU ALL STILL DO A STELLAR JOB. 
          AND I JUST WANNA SAY THAT YOU ARE OUR FUTURE. 
          AND I THINK I SAW CHIEF MCMANUS EARLIER AND HE INTRODUCED HIMSELF TO ME AND HE SAYS, HI, UH, COUNCILMAN, I WANNA BE A POLICEMAN. 
          AND I SAID, I THINK YOU DO GOOD. 
          UM, BUT, UH, POLICE CHIEF STARTED SOMEWHERE AND SO ARE YOU ALL. 
          SO I'M JUST VERY PROUD OF YOU. 
          CONGRATULATIONS. 
          IT'S GREAT TO HAVE YOU ALL IN DISTRICT FOUR. 
          THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN AGAIN FOR THE RECOGNITION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND MAYOR, I I ALSO WANNA TAKE TIME THIS MORNING TO HONOR MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGE, UH, LINDA HARRISON LEWIS. 
          MISS, UH, JUDGE LEWIS, IF YOU WANNA COME UP. 
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UM, SHE RETIRED FROM SERVICE TO OUR CITY. 
          LAST MONTH, JUDGE HARRISON LEWIS WAS APPOINTED A MUNICIPAL COURT, PART-TIME MAGISTRATE FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IN 2004. 
          SHE WAS APPOINTED A FULL-TIME JUDGE IN 2008. 
          HER MAIN ASSIGNMENT AT THE COURT WAS AS A TRIAL COURT JUDGE, BUT SHE ALSO HANDLED DOCKETS AFFECTING YOUNG PEOPLE. 
          SHE'S BEEN A GUEST SPEAKER AT MANY SCHOOLS WHERE SHE TALKS ABOUT BULLYING, DATING, VIOLENCE, AND SAFE DRIVING. 
          JUDGE LEWIS HAS BEEN A LIFE MEMBER OF ALPHA KAPPA ALPHA SORORITY. 
          SHE'S A FORMER PRESIDENT OF ALPHA TAU OMEGA AND SERVED AS GRADUATE ADVISOR THROUGH THEIR LOCAL CHAPTER, DELTA ROWE. 
          SHE SERVED THE N DAY NAACP. 
          SAN ANTONIO CHAPTER HAS MEMBERSHIP IN SAN ANTONIO BLACK LAWYERS ASSOCIATION, TEXAS STATE BAR COLLEGE, SAN ANTONIO BAR ASSOCIATION, TEXAS MUNICIPAL COURTS ASSOCIATION, AND TEXAS MUNICIPAL COURTS EDUCATION CENTER. 
          YOU MAY NOT KNOW THAT JUDGE LEWIS BEGAN HER PROFESSIONAL CAREER AS A LICENSED REGISTERED NURSE. 
          SHE'S HOMEGROWN. 
          I TALKED TO HER TODAY. 
          UM, SHE'S FROM THE EAST SIDE AND, UH, WENT TO INCARNATE WARD. 
          SHE EARNED HER, SHE LATER EARNED HER LAW DEGREE FROM SOUTH TEXAS COLLEGE LAW OF LAW IN HOUSTON. 
          JUDGE LINDA HARRISON LEWIS IS THE PROUD MOTHER OF TWO CHILDREN. 
          JASON A. HAYNES, AND DR. 
          KIMBERLY HAYNES REESE. 
          SHE HAS SIX GRANDCHILDREN AND OWNS HER OWN EVENT PLANNING BUSINESS. 
          PLEASE JOIN IN ME IN HONORING FORMER JUDGE LINDA HARRISON LEWIS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU HAVE THE FLOOR JUDGE. 
          GOOD MORNING, MAYOR NUREMBERG, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          THANK YOU FOR THIS RECOGNITION TODAY. 
          IT HAS BEEN TRULY AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF SAN ANTONIO IN A JUDICIAL CAPACITY. 
          UH, AS YOU'VE HEARD, I AM FROM SAN ANTONIO. 
          I USUALLY TELL, ESPECIALLY YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART THAT I AM HOMEGROWN. 
          I AM A SAN ANTONIO AND PROUDLY FROM THE EAST SIDE. 
          I ALWAYS ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO THEIR VERY, VERY BEST AND TO BE GOOD STEWARDS AND GOOD CITIZENS IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          SAN ANTONIO IS A DIVERSE COMMUNITY, AND THE COURT IS COMPOSED OF A GROUP OF JUDGES THAT ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DIVERSITY OF OUR GREAT CITY. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE COMMUNITY LEADERS WHO SERVE ON THE GOVERNANCE BOARD, UH, FOR ENTRUSTING ME TO SERVE IN A JUDICIAL CAPACITY AND TO EXECUTE JUSTICE AND INTEGRITY AND FAIRNESS IN THE COURT. 
          I HAVE SERVED UNDER TWO NOTEWORTHY PRESIDING JUDGES, THE HONORABLE JUDGE JOHN BULL, AND THE HONORABLE CARLA ODO, WHO WORK HARD TO ENSURE THAT MUNICIPAL COURT OPERATES IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE RULES OF LAW. 
          AND THEY ARE A GREAT REPRESENTATIVE. 
          JUDICIALLY FOR THE CITY SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF SAN ANTONIO WAS TRULY AN HONOR, UH, AND AN HONOR AS AN ADVOCATE OF JUSTICE AND FAIRNESS. 
          MY APPRECIATION EXTENDS FAR BEYOND MY WORDS TODAY. 
          AND, UH, WHEN YOU TRAVEL THAT WORK, THAT ROLE, AND THAT JOURNEY EACH DAY FOR AS LONG AS I HAVE, I WILL TRULY MISS MY JUDICIAL COLLEAGUES AND THE STAFF OF MUNICIPAL COURT, AND MOST OF ALL THE STAFF OF COURT FIVE WHO MADE MY JOB MUCH EASIER AND WHO EFFICIENTLY WORKED HARD TO ENSURE THAT THE OPERATIONS OF THE COURT WERE WELL DONE. 
          IT IS TIME FOR ME TO MOVE TO THE NEXT JOURNEY OF LIFE. 
          AND AS I ALWAYS SAY, AS, UH, JUDGE BULL HAS SO NOTED THAT, UH, I USUALLY END MY INTRODUCTIONS WITH INDIVIDUALS TO GO OUT, MAKE LIFE WELL, AND TO MAKE THE DAY AS PHENOMENAL AS YOU CAN. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE. 
          IT HAS TRULY BEEN MY PLEASURE. 
          THIS IS NOT MY LAST SERVICE OPPORTUNITY TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITIZENS OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          I CONTINUE TO GO OUT, SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGE OUR YOUTH TO DO BETTER AND TO MAKE OUR CITY FLOURISH THE WAY WE ALL HOPE AND INTENDED IT WILL. 
          BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR ENTRUSTING ME WITH, UH, THE ROLE AS A MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGE FOR OUR GREAT CITY. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THIS ACKNOWLEDGEMENT TODAY. 
          MOST APPRECIATED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER KEO HDA AND, UH, JUDGE LEWIS. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, FOR JOINING US TODAY. 
          UH, THE, THE ROLE OF A MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGE IS NOT OFTEN IN THE LIMELIGHT, BUT IT'S SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT WORK THAT WE DO AS A CITY. 
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AND SO I WANNA THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR DEDICATION TO IT AND FOR YOUR JUSTICE MINDSET. 
          VERY REFRESHING. 
          APPRECIATE THAT. 
          ALRIGHT, UM, WE ARE NOW GOING TO GET INTO THE HEART OF OUR AGENDA. 
          SO WE HAVE THREE ITEMS LISTED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. 
          WE ALSO NOTE THAT ITEM 18, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, ERIC, ITEM 18 HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN, IS NOT GONNA BE HEARD TODAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ITEMS FOUR, FIVE, AND SIX ARE GOING TO BE INDIVIDUALLY HEARD. 
          OTHER THAN THAT, EVERYTHING ELSE IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          SO LET ME ASK IF THERE ARE ANY CALL ITEMS TO PULL. 
          ITEM 29, COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ, 24 KEO, HARVARD 1919, COURAGE. 
          ANY OTHERS? OKAY, I'VE GOT 4, 5, 6 19 24 29 FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. 
          EVERYTHING ELSE WILL BE HEARD ON CONSENT. 
          IF THAT IS AGREEABLE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          MOTION BY CASTILLO, SECOND BY ROCHA GARCIA. 
          ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE ONE CITIZEN SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT WILL REMAIN ON CONSENT. 
          SO LET ME GO AHEAD AND CALL YOU UP NOW. 
          AND, UH, ISABELLA NIETO SPEAKING ON ITEM 17. 
          MS. NIETO, ARE YOU HERE? HOWDY. 
          SO SORRY, I MEANT TO SPEAK ON AGENDA SIX, BUT I GUESS IT GOT CHANGED AFTER I SIGNED UP. 
          YOU, YOU WANTED TO SPEAK ON ITEM SIX, NOT 17? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          I CAN MOVE YOU THERE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'D PREFER. 
          YEAH. 
          COOL. 
          OKAY, THANKS. 
          WE'LL DO THAT. 
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ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE NOW TO THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          UM, LET ME GIVE A MOMENT FOR FOLKS TO QUEUE UP. 
          AND THIS IS THE MOMENT FOR YOU TO HIGHLIGHT ANY ITEMS THAT'LL REMAIN ON CONSENT. 
          LEMME START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER VERAN. 
          LET, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, SO THERE'S QUITE A FEW I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT. 
          THE FIRST ONE I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT IS 25. 
          AND I, I WANNA THANK JUDGE LEWIS FOR HER SERVICE. 
          AND, UH, I UNDERSTAND WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA BE CALLING HER TO SERVICE, UH, FOR A LOT MORE, A LOT MORE THINGS COMING UP IN THE FUTURE. 
          UM, THIS APPROVAL OF THE MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGES, UH, I'M SO PROUD I WAS PART OF THIS PROCESS AND I'M EXCITED THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. 
          I KNOW IT HAS BEEN DIFFICULT FOR YOU ALL IN THE PAST FEW YEARS. 
          WHAT, WHAT DOES THE COUNTY DO? WHAT DOES THE CITY DO? BUT I THINK WE ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION NOW, AND AS WE COME OVER THE PANDEMIC, I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEW PROGRAMMING TO ADDRESS ALL THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE. 
          THE OTHER ITEMS I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT ARE ITEM 27 AND 28, WHICH ARE PART OF OUR, UM, OUR MISSION HERITAGE, UH, WORLD HERITAGE TRAIL AND SITES. 
          ITEM 27 IS, UM, MISSION ROAD SIDEWALK CONNECTIVITY PROJECT. 
          AND I'M EXCITED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE IS IN A FEW YEARS, MORE PEOPLE USING THOSE TRAILS TO WALK AND THAT THAT, UM, CITY STAFF HAS BEEN SO THOUGHTFUL TO MAKE SURE IT WORKS WITH OUR VISION OVER AT WORLD HERITAGE TRAIL. 
          THE SECOND ITEM IS ITEM 28, WHICH IS AN ANOTHER PROJECT, UH, IN THE AREA. 
          AND IT'S FOR A NEW NIETZCHE COMIDA MEXICAN RESTAURANT. 
          AND IF Y'ALL HAVE NOT BEEN OUT TO, UH, MISSION DRIVE-IN, Y'ALL KNOW THE PARKING IS VERY HARD AT NIETZCHE TO GET INTO. 
          AND WE ARE LOOKING AT, THEY'RE LOOKING AT MOVING AND CREATING A NEW FACILITY, WHICH NOT ONLY MEANS MORE OPTIONS FOR FAMILIES IN THE DISTRICT, BUT ALSO MEANS MORE OPTIONS FOR VISITORS. 
          AND THE, UH, LAST ITEM I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT IS ITEM 14 AT THE AIRPORT, UM, IN OUR OPEN CONTAINER. 
          UH, I JUST WANNA APPLAUD THE AIRPORT FOR THEIR CONTINUED WORK TO KIND OF MAKE THE TRAVELER'S EXPERIENCE THERE MORE OF A POSITIVE EXPERIENCE. 
          AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD STEP IN ALLOWING PEOPLE TO ENJOY THEIR MARGARITAS  AND NOT FEEL RUSHED AND ENJOY THEIR GLASSES OF WINE. 
          SO, UH, I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE MOVING THAT FORWARD TODAY ALSO. 
          AND, AND I THINK AS WE HAVE MORE VISITORS COME IN, OR AS WE'RE ABOUT TO LEAVE SAN ANTONIO, WE CAN HAVE THAT LAST MARGARITA LA GLORIA, OUR RIA BEFORE WE, WE LEAVE FOR A WEEK LONG TRIP OUTSIDE OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE ITEMS I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER VRAN. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ. 
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THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT ITEM 15, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'M SUPER, SUPER EXCITED ABOUT. 
          UM, EARLIER IN THE SUMMER I HAD HAD AN IDEA FOR AN EAST SIDE CONTENT CREATOR PROGRAM, UM, WITH ALAMO CITY STUDIOS. 
          AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT I ADVOCATED FOR TO BECOME A PART OF THE BUDGET. 
          AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, I USED TO BE A HIGH SCHOOL MATH TEACHER AND STUDENTS WOULD SPEND SO MUCH TIME ON THEIR PHONE, THEY WOULD SPEND SO MUCH TIME ON SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          AND WHAT I DON'T THINK IS, UM, REALIZED IS THE VALUE INTO THAT CONTENT CREATION AND SOCIAL MEDIA AND THESE TOOLS ARE REALLY TOOLS. 
          AND IT IS AN INDUSTRY THAT IS NEW, IT'S NEWER THAN ANY OF US, AND IT IS, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE TO BECOME LEADERS IN. 
          IT IS AN INDUSTRY THAT OUR, THAT OUR YOUNG PEOPLE CAN BE LEADERS IN. 
          AND SO I WANT TO THANK DR. 
          LINDA DELENA, UM, WHO'S THE PROGRAM CHAIR OF THE EAST SIDE YOUTH CONTENT CREATOR PROGRAM, AS WELL AS A PROFESSOR OF ECONOMICS AT U T S A. 
          I ALSO WANNA THANK ALAMO CITY STUDIOS FOR THEIR COLLABORATION ON THIS. 
          THIS WILL BE A PROGRAM THAT WILL BE A SIX WEEK PROGRAM AFTER SCHOOL STARTING IN THE FALL TO TEACH HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS HOW TO CREATE AND PROMOTE DIGITAL CONTENT. 
          AND THEY WILL BE TAUGHT BY WORKING INDUSTRY PROFESSIONALS, NOT JUST IN SAN ANTONIO, BUT THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES. 
          THIS WAS AN IDEA THAT BEGAN WITH MY DESIRE TO ENGAGE STUDENTS IN OUT-OF-SCHOOL TIME PROGRAMMING THAT WOULD UPLIFT THEIR VOICE ONLINE. 
          AND THIS CAN BE A GAME CHANGER FOR THESE STUDENTS, THEIR FAMILIES, AND FOR OUR EAST SIDE COMMUNITY. 
          RECENTLY I SPOKE AT SAM HOUSTON HIGH SCHOOL TO ASSIST IN RECRUITING STUDENTS IN ORDER TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE TARGET THEM SO THAT THEY WOULD BENEFIT FROM THESE PROGRAM, FROM THIS PROGRAM. 
          AND THIS WILL BE A PROGRAM THAT IS EXCLUSIVE FOR SAM HOUSTON HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. 
          INSTEAD OF BEING SOLELY CONSUMERS OF CONTENT ONLINE, THESE STUDENTS WILL BECOME CONTENT CREATORS AND THIS WILL UPLIFT THE VOICE OF STUDENTS, WHICH I BELIEVE IS A STEP TOWARD BRINGING ABOUT THE ENGAGEMENT WE NEED TO TRANSFORM OUR DISTRICT. 
          I'M SUPER, SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THIS. 
          WORDS CANNOT DESCRIBE AND I'M EAGER TO SEE THIS, UH, SEE THIS COME TO FRUITION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          AND, UH, LIKE MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUE FROM FROM D THREE, I ALSO WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT ITEM NUMBER, UH, 14, WHICH IS, UM, THE AIRPORT OPEN CONTAINERS, UM, BEVERAGES. 
          AND WE BOTH SIT ON VISIT SAN ANTONIO AS BOARD. 
          AND ONE OF THE, THE MOST, UM, EXCITING THINGS THAT WE HEARD AT THE I P W CONFERENCE, WHICH JUST COMING NEXT YEAR TO SAN ANTONIO WAS, UH, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THE MARGARITAS. 
          THEY CAN'T WAIT TO TRY THE MARGARITAS IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          SO THIS IS ACTUALLY, UH, REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          BUT, UM, I, I DO HAVE, UH, UH, CHEF JOHNNY CONTACTED ME JUST TO, TO SHARE HIS SUPPORT FOR THIS. 
          HE'S, UM, HE'S IN NAPA VALLEY. 
          HE PROPOSED TO HIS GIRLFRIEND OVER THE WEEKEND, AND BY THE WAY, SHE SAID YES. 
          SO, UM, AND HE WANTED ME TO MAKE SURE THAT MY COLLEAGUES KNEW THAT MOST OF HIS CUSTOMER COMPLAINTS AT LAGUARDIA AT THE AIRPORT COME FROM CUSTOMERS WHO CAN'T, UM, TAKE THE MARGARITAS TO THEIR GATE. 
          SO TODAY, WHAT WHAT WE'RE DOING KEITH THINKS IS, IS IMPORTANT FOR, FOR SAN ANTONIO VISITORS AS WELL. 
          SO THAT'S ALL I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT TODAY. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHE GARCIA, COUNCIL MEMBER PAL. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GETTING, WE'RE NOT GETTING YOUR, YOUR AUDIO, AUDIO REPLIES, REP APPLIES. 
          THANKS, MAYOR. 
          UH, I'M GONNA DO SOMETHING STRANGE AND OUTTA THE ORDINARY TODAY 'CAUSE I DIDN'T WANNA GET A WHOLE PRESENTATION ON IT. 
          UM, I'M GONNA VOTE NO ON THE CONSENT ITEM. 
          THIS, UH, ALCOHOL AND AIRPORTS THING SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'ALL HAVE NOTICED, BUT EVERY SINGLE TIME WE HEAR ABOUT VIOLENCE ON AIRPLANES, IT'S ALMOST ALWAYS A DRUNK, UM, WHO DRANK WAY TOO MUCH IN THE AIRPORT. 
          AND TWO, IT'S ALMOST ALWAYS WOMEN WHO END UP GETTING HIT. 
          THAT'S OUR FLIGHT ATTENDANTS AND I, I'M NOT GONNA HAVE MY FINGERPRINTS ON THAT, SO THANKS. 
          THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER LIA. 
          ALRIGHT, UH, THAT LOOKS LIKE THE BALANCE OF OUR DISCUSSION. 
          SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          THAT'S ALL ITEMS SAVED FOR 4 5 6 19 24 AND 29. 
          HEARING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE VOTING NINE. 
          I'M VOTING NINE. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL GET A VOICE VOTE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          BRAVO. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          RIGHT, 
          [ACTION ITEMS FOR STAFF BRIEFING]
WE'LL GO RIGHT INTO IT. 
          UH, LET'S START WITH ITEM FOUR. 
           ITEM FOUR IS AN ORD ORDINANCE APPROVING A, AN INCREASE BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST, 2022 IN ONE, THE GENERAL RESIDENCE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION IN THE CITY FOR AN INDIVIDUAL IN AN AMOUNT EQUAL TO 10% OF THE APPRAISED VALUE OF THE RESIDENTS HOMESTEAD OR THE STATUTORY MANDATED MINIMUM OF $5,000. 
          TWO HOMESTEAD PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION 
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FOR PERSONS 65 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER FROM 65,000 TO 85,003 HOMESTEAD PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION FOR DISABLED PERSONS FROM 12,500 TO $85,000 AND B AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 31 OF THE CITY CODE OF SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS TO INCREASE TO INCREASE SUCH EXEMPTIONS. 
          RIGHT. 
          ERIC, TOSS IT OVER TO YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, TROY'S GONNA WALK THROUGH TODAY'S ITEM, UH, BUT JUST TO, AS HE'S COMING UP TO THE MICROPHONE, UM, CONSISTENT WITH THE CONVERSATIONS THAT, UH, WE HAD AT OUR BUDGET WORK SESSION IN APRIL, AND THEN THE FOLLOW-UP CONVERSATION WITH THE ALTERNATIVES THAT WE PRESENTED TO YOU DURING THE TRIAL BUDGET AND THE FINANCIAL FORECAST. 
          WE'RE BRINGING TODAY'S ITEM TO, UH, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, JUST A REMINDER THAT IN ORDER TO, UH, MAKE, UH, THE CHANGE, UH, ON THE TAX BILL FOR THE UPCOMING TAX YEAR, UM, THE COUNCIL WILL NEED TO TAKE ACTION BEFORE JULY 1ST. 
          SO WE'RE HERE TODAY TO LAY OUT THAT ALTERNATIVE THAT, UM, THAT WE SHARED WITH YOU DURING THE TRIAL BUDGET AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 
          TROY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD MORNING MAYOR. 
          MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL. 
          MY PRESENTATION TODAY IS GONNA BE PROVIDING STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON PROPERTY TAX RELIEF OPTIONS. 
          UM, HOPEFULLY AT THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION, UH, ONE OF THE KEY TAKEAWAYS IS OUR PROPERTY TAX RELIEF. 
          WE'RE PROVIDING A BALANCED APPROACH ACROSS THE CITY, AND WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT A BALANCED APPROACH, I'M TALKING ABOUT PROVIDING PROPERTY TAX RELIEF TO OUR RESIDENTIAL HOMESTEADS, OUR VULNERABLE POPULATIONS OF AGE 65 AND DISABLED PERSONS, AS WELL AS THROUGH THE, UM, THE TAX RATE CALCULATION, PROVIDING THAT RELIEF TO OUR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, WHICH INCLUDE OUR SMALL BUSINESSES AND OUR, UH, MULTI-FAMILY, UM, HOUSING. 
          WE BE, WE BEGAN THIS CONVERSATION BACK IN APRIL WITH THE, THE BUDGET GOAL SETTING SESSION. 
          AT THAT TIME, WE CAME FORWARD WITH A MINIMUM RECOMMENDATION OF A 5% GENERAL HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. 
          AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE JUST STARTED SEEING, UM, NOTICES GO OUT, WE'RE JUST COLLECTING INFORMATION AND REALLY DID NOT HAVE A GOOD, UM, GRASP ON WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH VALUES WORKING WITH THE BEXAR COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT. 
          WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SOLIDIFY SOME OF THAT HERE FORWARD AND AT THAT PRESENT AT THAT, UM, GOAL SETTING SESSION, WE HAD MADE A COMMITMENT TO YOU TO COME BACK TO THIS BODY, UM, IN MAY WITH, UM, SOME RECOMMENDED, UM, AND SOME MODIFIED HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS, WHICH WE DID. 
          YOU ALSO ASKED US TO GO BACK AND EXPLORE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, PROVIDE TARGETED RELIEF TO SOME OF OUR MORE VULNERABLE POPULATIONS LIKE THE AGE 65 AND DISABLED PERSONS. 
          WE CAME BACK TO YOU AS PART OF THE TRIAL BUDGET ON MAY 11TH IN THE B SESSION AND CAME FORWARD WITH RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          UM, ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT MINIMUM 5% GENERAL HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION TO INCREASE OUR, UH, GENERAL RESIDENT HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION TO 10% INCREASE THE OVER 65 EXEMPTION FROM 65,000 TO 85,000, INCREASE THE DISABLED PERSON'S EXEMPTION FROM 12,500 TO 85,000, AND THESE WILL BE THE SAME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING TODAY. 
          SEEKING YOUR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL ON THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. 
          MOST OF THIS PRESENTATION YOU'RE GONNA SEE, IT'S GONNA BE CONSISTENT WITH WE SHOWED YOU IN B SESSION. 
          UM, THIS HAS NOT CHANGED A WHOLE LOT FROM WHAT WE HAVE SHOWED YOU. 
          THERE'S STILL A LOT GOING ON WITH BCAT AS FAR AS LOOKING AT OUR APPEALS AND PROTESTS. 
          YOU KNOW, LAST MAY WE TALKED TO, UM, THE TOTAL TAXABLE VALUE INCREASE FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          IT'S ABOUT 14.1%. 
          SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WAS SOMEWHAT HIGHER AT 15% MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AT 20% AND COMMERCIAL AT 11.1%. 
          TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TODAY, UM, THESE TAXABLE VALUES WILL DECREASE ON THE RES SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. 
          AND AS THE GOAL OF PUTTING THESE EXEMPTIONS IN PLACE IS TO DRIVE THAT TAXABLE VALUE DOWN SO THAT WHEN THE TAX RAISE IS APPLIED TO THAT, IT'S A LOWER TAX BURDEN ON OUR, UM, CITIZENS OR OUR RESIDENTIAL HOMESTEADS. 
          WE MAY HAVE SEEN A COUPLE OF ARTICLES IN THE MEDIA ABOUT THE 2023 APPEALS, UM, PROVIDE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON THAT TO, UH, THE DEADLINE TO PROTEST WAS MAY 16TH OR 30 DAYS AFTER A RECEIPT OF THE NOTICE OF VALUE. 
          AFTER THE PASSAGE OF THAT DEADLINE, BEXAR COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT RECEIVED ROUGHLY 170,000 PROTESTS. 
          THIS IS ROUGHLY 10% HIGHER THAN THEY HAVE SEEN IN THE PRIOR YEAR. 
          UH, WHEN WE WERE SPEAKING TO THEM LAST WEEK, THEY HAD RESOLVED ABOUT 18,500 OF THOSE 170,000 PROTESTS. 
          NOW THAT HAS CERTAINLY CHANGED. 
          THEY'RE GONNA KEEP CHIPPING AWAY WITH THAT, UM, OVER THE NEXT MONTH UNTIL WE GET TO THE CERTIFICATION ON JULY 25TH. 
          ONE OF THE KEY ASSUMPTIONS THAT A STAFF THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IS WHAT IS THAT VALUE LOSS GONNA BE BETWEEN TODAY AND WHEN THE CERTIFICATION COMES IN ON JULY 25TH WORKING WITH B ADEN AND LOOKING AT THE HISTORICAL LOSSES, ONE OF THE KEY ESTIMATES THAT WE HAVE IS WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY LOSE ANOTHER $5 BILLION 
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IN VALUE DUE TO PROTESTS. 
          OUR FINAL APPRAISED VALUES WILL BE RECEIVED ON JULY 25TH, 2022. 
          WHEN WE RECEIVE THOSE FINAL VALUES, WE WILL BE ABLE TO FIRM UP OUR TAX RATE. 
          UM, AND ONCE WE FIRM THAT UP, WE CAN ACTUALLY CALCULATE THAT TAX REVIEW AND WE WILL BE, UH, RECOMMENDING A PROPOSED TAX RATE IN THE, UM, IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. 
           SOME OTHER KEY STATUTORY TAX LIMITATIONS, UM, ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO INFLUENCE AS FAR AS OUR EXEMPTIONS. 
          ONE KEY ONE THAT HAS REALLY GOTTEN A LOT OF INTEREST THIS YEAR IS THE 10%, UM, APPRAISAL VALUE INCREASE OR THE APPRAISAL CAP. 
          GIVEN THAT WE'VE HAD THESE SIGNIFICANT VALUE INCREASES, THIS ONE HAS REALLY COME TO THE FOREFRONT BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY CAPS THE MARKET VALUE TO AN APPRAISED VALUE AT 10%. 
          SO IT CAN EXCEED 10% IN VALUE, IT CAPS THAT VALUE GROWTH. 
          THE OTHER STATUTORY ITEM IS THE STATE LEGISLATURE IN 2019 PASSED SENATE BILL TO WHICH REDUCED THE PROPERTY TAX ROLLBACK RATE ARE THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE. 
          NOW THAT IT'S CALLED FROM 8% TO 3.5%, THIS IS ONLY APPLICABLE TO THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION PORTIONS OF OUR TAX RATE. 
          IT DOES NOT IMPACT OUR DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE. 
          THIS REVENUE CAP APPLIES TO THE BASE VALUE GROWTH ONLY AND NOT TO THE NEW VALUE PIECE. 
          WE CANNOT EXCEED THAT 3.5% REVENUE CAP WITHOUT AN AUTHORIZED OR WITHOUT A, UM, TRIGGER AN AUTOMATIC ELECTION. 
          THERE IS ONE EXCEPTION TO THAT IS THAT ANY EVENT THAT THERE IS ANY UNUSED INCREMENT FROM THE PRIOR THREE YEARS, THAT CAN BE ROLLED FORWARD AND BE ADDED TO AND ABOVE THE 3.5% CAP. 
          AS, AS FAR AS THE CURRENT PROPERTY TAX RELIEF THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE TODAY, WE HAVE THREE ITEMS THAT ARE REALLY WITHIN THE CONTROL OF THE CITY OR AS US AS A MUNICIPALITY. 
          THAT'S GONNA BE THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. 
          THE OVER 65 EXEMPTION AND THE DISABLED PERSON'S EXEMPTION, THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION CURRENTLY WAS APPROVED IN 2019, EFFECTIVE FOR 2020. 
          IT'S CURRENTLY AT THE 0.01%, WHICH IS THE LOWEST PERCENTAGE YOU CAN PUT IN PLACE, AND THAT TRIGGERS A MINIMUM REDUCTION OF YOUR TAXABLE VALUE OF THAT $5,000. 
          THIS APPLIES TO ALL HOMESTEADS REGARDLESS OF VALUE. 
          UM, SO WHATEVER PERCENTAGE THAT IS, UM, BASICALLY APPROVED. 
          IF YOU HAVE A $500,000 HOUSE, YOU WILL GET A 10% EXEMPTION. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS RESIDENCE, YOU WILL GET A 10% EXAMPLE, UH, 10% EXEMPTION. 
          THIS MAY ONLY BE ADOPTED AS A PERCENTAGE AND IT'S LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF 20% OF THE APPRAISED VALUE. 
          ANY CHANGES MUST BE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL PRIOR TO JULY 1ST TO BE EFFECTIVE IN FISCAL YEAR 2023 AND TO BE REFLECTED ON THE, UM, TAX BILLS THAT GO OUT IN OCTOBER 1ST. 
          THE OTHER TWO EXEMPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE ARE THE OVER 65 AND THE DISABLED. 
          THE OVER 65 EXEMPTION IS CURRENTLY AT, UM, A FLAT $65,000 EXEMPTION AND THIS BECOMES ELIGIBLE FOR A HOMEOWNER ONCE THEY TURN AN AGE 65. 
          THIS OVER AGE 65 EXEMPTION WAS ORIGINALLY OFFERED IN 1974 IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,000 AND IT HAS GROWN FIVE TIMES OR HAVE BEEN INCREASED FIVE DIFFERENT OCCASIONS. 
          UM, UP TO THE CURRENT EXEMPTION AMOUNT OF 65,000, WHICH WAS LAST INCREASED IN 2003, THE DISABLED PERSON'S EXEMPTION IS CURRENTLY 12,500. 
          TO QUALIFY FOR THIS EXEMPTION, A HOMESTEAD OWNER IS A HUNDRED PERCENT DISABLED, MUST BE A HUNDRED PERCENT DISABLED AND RECEIVE BENEFITS UNDER THE FEDERAL OLD AGE SURVIVORS AND DISABILITY INSURANCE. 
          THIS ONE MUST ALSO BE ADOPTED AS A DOLLAR AMOUNT. 
          UM, YOU CANNOT RECEIVE BOTH EXEMPTIONS AT ONE TIME. 
          IT HAS TO BE EITHER OR. 
          AND SIMILAR TO THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, THESE EXEMPTIONS MUST BE ADOPTED BY JULY 1ST TO BE EFFECTIVE IN 2023. 
          THERE IS ALSO A SENIOR TAX FREEZE THAT IS AVAILABLE ABOVE AND BEYOND THIS AND THAT TAX FREEZE, UM, FOR BOTH OVER 65 AND DISABLED PERSONS WAS PUT IN PLACE IN 2005. 
          IN TERMS OF PROPERTY TAX RELIEF, THIS IS OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION. 
          WE ARE RECOMMENDING MOVING THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION FROM THE CURRENT 0.01, OUR MINIMUM OF $5,000 REDUCTION IN TAXABLE VALUE TO 10%. 
          WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT, UM, OH I IN ONE FOUR POINT ON THAT, ON THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. 
          AS WE MOVE TO THAT 10%, THAT WILL IMPACT A ROUGHLY 240,000 RESIDENTIAL HOMESTEADS, THE OVER 65 EXEMPTION, CURRENTLY 65,000. 
          WE ARE RECOMMENDING TO INCREASE THAT BY $20,000 TO 85,000. 
          THIS ONE WILL HAVE AN IMPACT OF APPROXIMATELY 103,000, UH, HOMESTEAD ACCOUNTS. 
          AND WE ARE ALSO RECOMMENDING, UM, INCREASING THE DISABLED PERSON'S EXEMPTION FROM 12,500, INCREASING THAT BY $72,500 AND ALIGNING THAT AT FIVE 85,000. 
          WITH THE OVER 65, THE DISABLED PERSON'S EXEMPTION WILL IMPACT APPROXIMATELY 7,000 
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ACCOUNTS. 
          AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, A TAX FREEZE IS ALSO IN PLACE FOR THOSE OVER 65 OR DISABLED. 
          I'D LIKE TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME ON THIS. 
          AS I MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION, WE ARE LOOKING AT A BALANCED APPROACH. 
          UM, WE CAN DO THIS THROUGH OFFERING THESE TAX EXEMPTIONS AND ALSO THROUGH A TAX RATE REDUCTION. 
          THAT IS, UM, THAT IS A COM THAT IS, UM, A RESULT OF THE TAX CALCULATION UNDER SENATE BILL TWO. 
          AFTER WE MET WITH YOU AT THE GOAL SETTING SESSION, MY TEAM AND I WENT BACK AND RAN A VARIETY OF SCENARIOS TO BASICALLY SEE WHAT IS THE BEST BALANCE BETWEEN OFFERING A RESIDENTIAL EXEMPTION, UM, EXEMPTIONS TO OUR VULNERABLE POPULATIONS AND ALSO TO ACTUALLY, UM, PROVIDE SOME FORM OF TAX RELIEF OR TAX BREAK TO OUR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES IN THE TERMS OF THE SMALL BUSINESSES, MULTIFAMILY AND THOSE COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS. 
          I HAVE A TEAM THAT RAN THOSE, THOSE UM, SCENARIOS AND I'D LIKE TO ACTUALLY TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY REAL QUICK AND INTRODUCE THE TEAM THAT HAS BEEN DOING THIS. 
          UM, THEY'VE BEEN LIVING, LIVING AND BREATHING PROBABLY TAX, PROPERTY TAX RELIEF FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. 
          UM, BEHIND ME IS MARGARET VIEGAS, SHE'S OUR ASSISTANT FINANCE DIRECTOR. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE TINA MARIA, WHO IS OUR TAX ASSESSOR FOR THE CITY. 
          AND THEY'LL CONTINUE TO LIVE AND BREATHE THIS AND ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH CERTIFICATION UNTIL WE ADOPT A TAX RATE. 
          AS I MENTIONED, THESE SCENARIOS LOOKED AT A BALANCE. 
          WE LOOKED AT A VARIETY OF SCENARIOS FROM GOING TO 5% ALL THE WAY UP TO 20%. 
          WHAT HAPPENS UNDER THE TAX RATE CALCULATION UNDER SENATE BILL TWO IS THAT WITH THAT CAP IN PLACE, AS TAXABLE VALUES GO UP, TO BE ABLE TO PRODUCE THE SAME AMOUNT OF TAX REVENUE AS IN THE EARNED IN THE PRIOR YEAR AND THE ABILITY TO INCREASE THAT ON THE BASE 3.5%, IT'S REALLY A FUNCTION OF THE TAX RATE. 
          SO AS THOSE TAX VALUES ARE GOING UP, THE TAX RATE IS COMING DOWN TO PRODUCE THAT SAME AMOUNT OF TAX REVENUE AS IN THE PRIOR YEAR PLUS ALLOWING US TO INCREASE A LITTLE BIT FOR INFLATION, CONTRACTUAL INCREASE IN THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          AS YOU LAYER IN THESE EXEMPTIONS, THAT TAXABLE VALUE IS GONNA START COMING DOWN AS A FUNCTION OF THE TAX RATE. 
          THE TAX RATE IS GONNA CREEP UP A LITTLE BIT TO PRODUCE THAT SAME AMOUNT OF TAX REVENUE. 
          HOPEFULLY THIS, UM, THIS SLIDE HERE WILL ILLUSTRATE THAT. 
          UM, OUR CURRENT FY 20 20 20 22 TAX RATE IS ROUGHLY 56 CENTS. 
          OUR TAX RATE IS REALLY THE COMBINATION OF TWO DIFFERENT PIECES. 
          OUR M AND O TAX RATE, WHICH IS ROUGHLY 35 CENTS TODAY, AND OUR DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE, WHICH IS 21 CENTS. 
          AS I MENTIONED, WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE ACROSS ALL THESE EXAMPLES ARE SCENARIOS THAT WE'RE PRODUCING. 
          THE DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE DOES NOT CHANGE UNDER SENATE BILL TWO, THAT TAX RATE STAYS FLAT. 
          OUR CURRENT M AND O TAX RATE OF 35 CENTS. 
          WHEN YOU COMPARE THAT TO MOVING TO, UH, THE CALCULATION UNDER SSB TWO, PUTTING IN PLACE A 5% HOMESTEAD WITH A 85,000 OVER 65 AND DISABLED PERSON'S EXEMPTION, THE TAX RATE ACTUALLY GOES DOWN ABOUT 1.70 CENTS. 
          SO WE'RE OFFERING THESE EXEMPTIONS TO OUR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS. 
          WE'RE REDUCING THE TAX RATE BY 1.70 CENTS. 
          AND SO THAT REDUC, THAT REDUCED TAX RATE REALLY BENEFITS NOT ONLY OUR RESIDENTIAL HOMESTEADS, BUT IT'S ALSO GONNA PROVIDE THAT BALANCE AND PROVIDE THAT LEAF TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS IN OUR SMALL BUSINESS AND OUR MULTI-FAMILY ACCOUNTS, AS I MENTIONED UNDER THAT, UM, 5% HOMESTEAD EXAMPLE THAT WE LOOKED AT, THAT REDUCES THE TAX RATE IN TOTAL BY 1.70 CENTS. 
          AND THE DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE STAYS THE SAME. 
          MOVING TO OUR RECOMMENDED, UM, OPTION OF A 10% HOMESTEAD, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES AN 85,000 AND OVER, UM, 85,000 EXEMPTION FOR OVER 65 AND DISABLES PERSON'S EXEMPTION, THAT TAX RATE INCREMENTALLY MOVES UP A LITTLE BIT, UH, TO ABOUT, UM, 1.30 CENT REDUCTION OFF OF OUR CURRENT TAX RATE. 
          STILL PROVIDES THAT BALANCE I MENTIONED AS FAR AS, AS FAR AS MOVING AND PROVIDING THAT RESIDENTIAL EXEMPTION AT 10% AND THE OVER 65, BUT STILL PROVIDES THAT 1 3, 1 0.30 CENT REDUCTION IN THE TAX RATE FOR THE OTHER SIDE WITH OUR SMALL BUSINESSES AND OUR, UM, MULTIFAMILY COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS. 
          SO I THINK THAT BALANCE IS IMPORTANT. 
          THAT WAS ONE OF OUR GOALS IN RUNNING THESE SCENARIOS IS TRYING TO FIND WHAT IS THAT BALANCE. 
          SO WE'RE NOT ONLY PROVIDING THAT RESIDENTIAL HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION BUT BALANCE ACROSS THE BOARD TO THE COMMERCIAL SIDE AS WELL. 
          WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE 10% HOMESTEAD, UM, WITH THE UNUSED INCREMENT. 
          WE ARE NOT RECOMMENDING THAT TODAY, BUT THAT OPTION WAS AVAILABLE. 
          WE HAD SOME UNUSED INCREMENT IN THE PRIOR YEARS THAT WE COULD ROLL FORWARD. 
          THIS EXAMPLE ACTUALLY ONLY USES HALF OF THAT INCREMENT AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE IMPACT IS ON THE TAX RATE WOULD LIKE TO MENTION. 
          UM, 
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OF THE EXAMPLES THAT WE, UM, THAT WE LOOKED AT, WE ALSO DID AN EXAMPLE INCREASING THAT, UM, EXEMPTION TO A 20%. 
          WHEN WE DO THAT AND INCREASE THAT EXEMPTION TO THE 20%, AS I EXPLAINED, AS THAT TAXABLE VALUE IS REDUCED, THE TAX RATE GOES UP, THAT TAX RATE, THE IMPACT ON THE TAX RATE, IT REALLY GOES BACK TO LEVEL TO WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. 
          SO THERE WOULD BE NO, UM, IF WE WENT TO 20% THAT BALANCE IS NOT IN PLACE. 
          WE WOULD BE PROVIDING A 20% HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION TO OUR RESIDENTIALS, BUT THERE WOULD BE NO TAX RELIEF ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, ESPECIALLY LIKE OUR SMALL BUSINESSES. 
          AND THE, UM, THE MULTIFAMILY, IF WE DID THAT AT THAT TAX RATE, THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE, UM, AN OVER SIX, AN OVER 65 INCREASE, UM, FOR OUR DISABLED PERSONS AND OUR UM, ARE OVER 65, 80 5,000. 
          'CAUSE THAT REALLY ERASES THAT, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY PUT THAT EXEMPTION IN PLACE. 
          IT'S THE ONLY THING THAT IF WE MOVE TO 20%, THERE WOULD BE NO, THAT BALANCE BECOMES OUTTA BALANCE ONLY PROVIDES THAT, UM, RELIEF TO THE RESIDENTIAL HOMESTEADS. 
          NOTHING ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE OF THE LEDGER. 
          UM, AND UM, IT REALLY DOES NOT SATISFY ONE OF THE GOALS THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING IN PLACE REAL QUICK. 
          THE CITY HAS DECREASED THE TAX RATE SEVEN TIMES IN THE LAST 29 YEARS. 
          OVER THAT 29 YEARS, WE'VE REDUCED THE TAX RATE ABOUT 3.77 CENTS TO PUT THAT INSPECTIVE TO, TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE, IF, UM, Y'ALL APPROVE OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION TODAY, WE WOULD LAYER IN APPROXIMATELY ANOTHER 1.30 CENTS. 
          AS I MENTIONED THAT 1.30 CENTS AS AN ESTIMATE RIGHT NOW AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO REVISE THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          WHAT DOES THIS MEAN IN TERMS OF CITY PROPERTY TAX RELIEF? CURRENTLY WE OFFER OR FOREGO AND OFFER ABOUT 72.4 MILLION IN PROPERTY TAX RELIEF. 
          BY PUTTING THESE EXEMPTIONS IN PLACE TODAY, THAT ROUGHLY INCREASES OR PROVIDES AN ADDITIONAL 21.4 MILLION IN TAX RELIEF TO A TOTAL OF 93.8 MILLION. 
          TODAY. 
          THAT 72.4 MILLION IS MADE UP OF 6.2 MILLION TO THE LOCAL HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, PROVIDING RELIEF OF 35.2 TO THE OVER 8 65 500,000, UH, TO DISABLED PERSONS AND ABOUT 30.5 MILLION IN TAX FREEZE. 
          THAT TAX FREEZE, UM, ARE OVER 65 IS REALLY APPROXIMATELY 45% OF OUR HOMESTEADS AS WE MOVE. 
          AND IF THESE EXEMPTIONS ARE APPROVED TODAY, AS I MENTIONED, IT PROVIDES AN ADDITIONAL 21.4 MILLION IN TAX RELIEF THAT PROVIDES AN INCREASE OF 22 POINT MILLION IN THE LOCAL HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION UP TO 28.2, AN ADDITIONAL 10 MILLION TO 45.3 MILLION IN THE OVER AGE 65 2 0.2 MILLION, UM, ABOVE AND BEYOND THE 500,000 FOR THE DISABLED PERSONS TO A TOTAL OF 2.7 MILLION IN PROPERTY TAX RELIEF TO OUR DISABLED PERSONS. 
          AND THEN ON THE TAX FREEZE GOES FROM 30.5 TO 17.6 AND I HAVE SOME EXAMPLES THAT KIND OF EXPLAIN THAT DELTA, BUT BECAUSE OF THE TAX FREEZE, IT ACTUALLY LOWERS THE TAX FREEZE ON THEIR TAX BILL BELOW THAT TAX CEILING. 
          UM, OVER TIME AS THE VALUES INCREASE, THEY CREEP BACK UP AND THEY FREEZE AGAIN AT THEIR TAX CEILING. 
          I THOUGHT THERE WAS VALUE IN SHOWING THESE AGAIN BY TAX DISTRICT OR BY BY CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT. 
          THE CITY AVERAGE HOMESTEAD VALUES. 
          WHAT THIS IS SHOWING TODAY IS TODAY UNDER FISCAL YEAR 22 BY COUNCIL DISTRICT, THE AVERAGE HOMESTEAD MARKET VALUE BY COUNCIL DISTRICT AND THE AVERAGE HOMESTEAD TAXABLE VALUE THIS COMPARES TO TODAY. 
          IF THESE EXEMPTIONS WERE PUT IN PLACE AND APPROVED, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE AVERAGE HOMESTEAD TAXABLE VALUE? SO JUST TAKING DISTRICT ONE FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THE AVERAGE HOMESTEAD VALUE, THE MARKET VALUE IS ROUGHLY 260,000. 
          YOU SEE THE AVERAGE HOMESTEAD MARKET VALUE GOING UP TO 270,000 IN THE CURRENT YEAR FOR 2023. 
          LOOKING AT THE AVERAGE HOMESTEAD TAXABLE VALUE AT 183,000 FOR 2022, PUTTING THE EXEMPTIONS IN PLACE, IT DROPS THE AVERAGE HOMESTEAD TAXABLE VALUE ABOUT $28,000. 
          AND THAT YOU CAN LOOK THROUGH THAT SAME EXAMPLE FOR ALL THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS ONE THROUGH 10. 
          ALSO LOOKING AT WHAT HAPPENS BY CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT UNDER THE ZERO PROPERTY TAX BILLS THIS DOES, UM, WITH THE EXEMPTIONS IN PLACE FOR 2023 FOR F Y 2022 TOTAL TAX BILLS THAT PAY ZERO PROPERTY TAX FOR THE CITY TAX BILL IS 32,800. 
          PUTTING THESE EXEMPTIONS IN PLACE, IT INCREASES THE ZERO TAX BILLS BY ABOUT 4,486 TO A TOTAL OF 37,291. 
          KIND OF TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S ABOUT 16% OF OUR, UM, TOTAL HOMESTEADS ARE OUTSTANDING. 
          I'D LIKE TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME ON THE NEXT TWO SLIDES. 
          THE NEXT TWO SLIDES ACTUALLY WALK YOU THROUGH AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT HAPPENS 
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WITH THE GENERAL HOMESTEAD AND WE PUT IT IN PLACE AND WHAT IS THE IMPACT WHEN WE INCREASE IT. 
          AND THEN THE FOLLOWING SLIDE, IT'S GONNA HAVE THE GENERAL HOMESTEAD AS WELL, BUT ALSO LAYER IN OVER 65. 
          THERE'S REALLY THREE THINGS HERE THAT PLAY A PART IN THE SLIDE. 
          YOU HAVE THE APPRAISAL CAP THAT CAPS YOU AT 10%. 
          YOU HAVE THE INCREASE IN THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AT 10%. 
          THEN YOU HAVE A FUNCTION OF THE TAX RATE GOING DOWN. 
          SO THIS IS REALLY GONNA SHOW YOU HOW ALL THREE OF THOSE IN TANDEM WORK IN A PERIOD OF INCREASING, UM, MARKET VALUES. 
          WALKING THROUGH THE SLIDE REAL QUICK FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 OR THE CURRENT YEAR THAT WE'RE OPERATING IN, ASSUMING THAT WE HAVE A MARKET VALUE OF 200,000 EQUAL TO OUR ASSESSED VALUES, SO NO GROWTH, UM, APPLYING OUR CURRENT HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OF $5,000, THAT EQUATES TO A TAXABLE VALUE OF $195,000. 
          APPLY THAT TO OUR CURRENT TAX RATE THAT'S IN PLACE TODAY. 
          YOUR TAX BILL IS ROUGHLY IS $1,089. 
          UM, ON MY EARLIER SLIDE I TOLD YOU THAT THE AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL INCREASE WAS ABOUT 15%. 
          SO WE'RE UH, ASSUMING THAT WE HAVE A 15% INCREASE IN MARKET VALUE. 
          SO YOUR MARKET VALUE IS INCREASING FROM 200,000 TO 230,000. 
          WITH THAT 10% APPRAISAL CAP IN PLACE. 
          THAT ASSESSED VALUE CAN ONLY GROW $20,000 TO $220,000 COMPARED TO, UH, 200,000 IN 2022. 
          AS YOU PUT IN PLACE, THAT INCREASED HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION TO 10%. 
          YOU COULD SEE THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION INCREASES TO 22,000 OVER THE PRIOR YEAR OF 5,000. 
          AND I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT THING TO POINT OUT 'CAUSE WHEN WE WERE DOING OUR SCENARIOS AND LOOKING AT THAT BALANCED, BALANCED APPROACH, WE ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTIAL HOMESTEADS, THAT WE ARE OFFSETTING THAT INCREASE IN THEIR ASSESSED VALUE. 
          SO WE RAN MULTIPLE SCENARIOS AND LOOKED AT VARIOUS MARKET VALUES, VARIOUS ASSESSED VALUES FOR DIFFERENT VALUES OF, OF HOMES AND PUTTING THIS TOGETHER, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TRIED TO FOCUS ON THIS 10% HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE OFFSETTING ANY INCREASE IN THE ASSESSED VALUE. 
          SO WE HAVE AN IN, WE HAVE A 10% INCREASE IN THE ASSESSED VALUE, WE HAVE A 10% INCREASE IN THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. 
          SO WE'RE TRYING TO OFFSET THAT AND MITIGATE THE IMPACT TO OUR HOMEOWNERS, OUR RESIDENTIAL HOMEOWNERS PUTTING IN PLACE THAT $22,000 HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, IT REDUCES THE TAXABLE VALUE TO 198,000. 
          SO YOU HAVE MINIMAL GROWTH OVER THE TAXABLE VALUE OF THE PRIOR YEAR, BUT ALSO LAYERING IN THAT REDUCED TAX RATE ACTUALLY KEEPS OUR, UH, TAX BILLS THE SAME OR ACTUALLY PROVIDES A DECREASE IN THE TAX BILL. 
          SO IN THIS, IN THIS EXAMPLE, THE TAX BILL IN 2022 WAS $1,089 BASED ON WHAT'S IN PLACE TODAY. 
          BASED ON OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TODAY WITH THE 10% APPRAISAL CAP IN PRICE, INCREASING THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION TO 10% AND A REDUCED PROPERTY TAX RATE BASED ON THE PROPERTY TAX CAP, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A REDUCTION IN THE TAX BILL AND THAT WILL HAPPEN ACROSS ALL VALUES OF THE HOMES, REGARDLESS OF IF YOU'RE IN A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS HOME, A 500 OR $600,000 HOME. 
          THIS NEXT EXAMPLE THERE IS IN AN OVER 65 HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. 
          UM, ONE OF THE KEY ASSUMPTIONS HERE THAT WE'RE MAKING IN 2022 THAT OUR HOMEOWNER IS TURNING AGE 65 AND THAT TAX CEILING OR THAT TAX FREEZE WILL BE PUT IN PLACE IN THAT IN FISCAL YEAR 2022. 
          SAME ASSUMPTIONS, MARKET VALUE AND ASSESSED VALUE ARE 200,000. 
          WE HAVE OUR CURRENT HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OF 5,000. 
          OUR CURRENT OVERAGE 65 EXEMPTION OF 65,000, WHICH RESULTS IN A TAXABLE VALUE OF 130,000 APPLIED AGAINST OUR CURRENT TAX RATE. 
          YOU HAVE A TAX BILL, UH, EQUAL TO $726. 
          THAT TAX BILL IS NOW FROZEN AND BECOMES YOUR TAX CEILING AND THAT RESIDENTIAL HOMESTEAD WILL NEVER PAY ABOVE AND BEYOND ON THE CITY TAX BILL OF $726. 
          IN 2023. 
          SAME ASSUMPTIONS, UM, ARE WE HAVE A 15% INCREASE IN OUR MARKET VALUE THAT IS NOW CAPPED BASED ON THE 10% APPRAISAL CAP AT 220,000. 
          WE'RE IN A INCREASE TO THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OF 10%. 
          OUR HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION IS 22,000. 
          INCREASE IN OUR OVER 65 OF 85,000. 
          WE NOW HAVE A TAXABLE VALUE OF 113,000 WITH A REDUCED TAX RATE DUE TO THE TAX CAP. 
          THE TAX BILL IS NOW $616 AND THIS IS GONNA DIFFER BASED ON THE VALUE OF EVERYBODY'S HOME AND HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN IN THAT HOME. 
          BUT A RESIDENTIAL HOMESTEAD OR A PERSON THAT HAS 8 65 IN THIS HOME WILL NEVER PAY MORE THAN $726 BECAUSE OF THAT APPRAISAL CAP IN THIS SITUATION. 
          UM, OVER TIME AS THEIR UM, VALUES GO UP, THEY WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE THEIR TAX BILL UNTIL THEY HIT THAT TAX CEILING AGAIN, JUST WANNA GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF, UM, MOVING TO THE 10% HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION BASED 
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ON AN ASSESSED VALUE OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND 200,000 INCREMENTALLY ALL THE WAY UP TO 600,000. 
          WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF THAT 10% HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION? SO LOOKING AT JUST THE TOP LINE, HAVE A HOMESTEAD ASSESSED VALUE OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND, MULTIPLY THAT BY THE 10%, UM, EXEMPTION BASED ON OUR RECOMMENDATION, YOU NOW HAVE A HOMESTEAD TAXABLE VALUE OF 90,000, UM, THAT IS THE EQUIVALENT OF, OF A TAX BILL FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO $491. 
          THAT INDIVIDUAL WILL RECEIVE AN ADDITIONAL BENEFIT OF $28. 
          ADDING THAT TO THE CURRENT EXEMPTION WE HAVE IN PLACE FOR THE 5,000, THEY ACTUALLY WILL RECEIVE A TOTAL BENEFIT OF $55. 
          NOW MOVING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE $600,000 HOMESTEAD ASSESSED VALUE, UM, SAME THING. 
          PUTTING A 10% HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION IN PLACE, YOU'LL HAVE A REDUCTION TO 540,000 A TAX BILL, ROUGHLY 2,943,000, AND WILL RECEIVE A TOTAL BENEFIT OF $327 BASED ON THIS 10% EXEMPTION. 
          SO ONE OF THE THINGS TO POINT OUT HERE, OF COURSE, AS I MENTIONED EARLY ON, A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION IS BASED ON A PERCENTAGE. 
          AND SO THE GREATER THE VALUE OF A HOMESTEAD, THE GREATER THE BENEFIT, UM, VERSUS THE OVER 65, WHICH IS A FLAT EXEMPTION THAT PROVIDES RELIEF TO EVERYONE THAT'S AGED 65 REGARDLESS OF THE VALUE OF YOUR HOME. 
          A COUPLE IMPORTANT DATES. 
          UM, OUR DEADLINE TO ADOPT THE NEW PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION IS JUNE 30TH. 
          UM, WITH YOUR ACTION TODAY, WE CAN, UM, MAKE THAT DEADLINE AND PROVIDE B C A D WITH THE ORDINANCE THAT'S BEEN APPROVED. 
          UH, THE CERTIFIED TAX RULE, AS I MENTIONED, WE RECEIVE ON JULY 25TH. 
          WE ADOPT THE TAX RATE ON SEPTEMBER 15TH AND PROPERTY TAXES WOULD BE MAILED IF Y'ALL APPROVE THIS RECOMMENDATION TODAY ON OCTOBER 1ST WITH THE EXEMPTIONS IN PLACE. 
          SO I THINK, I BELIEVE THAT, UM, OUR STAFF COMMEND RECOMMENDATION PROVIDES SIGNIFICANT PROPERTY TAX RELIEF. 
          I THINK IT PROVIDES BALANCED PROPERTY TAX RELIEF. 
          AS I HAVE MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES BETWEEN OUR RESIDENTIAL HOMESTEADS, OUR VULNERABLE POPULATIONS OF AGE 65 AND DISABLED PERSONS AND THROUGH OUR REDUCTION IN THE TAX RATE ALSO PROVIDES RELIEF TO OUR COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS AS WELL, WHICH ARE CONSISTS OF MULTI-FAMILY, WHICH WE SAW THE HIGH INCREASE IN TAXABLE VALUES. 
          UM, AT THE BEGINNING OF MY PRESENTATION AS WELL AS OUR SMALL BUSINESSES. 
          UH, THE INCREASED HOME TO EXEMPTION PROVIDES RELIEF, AS I MENTIONED TO ALL HOMEOWNERS AND IT ALSO PROVIDES US FLEXIBILITY TO PURSUE, UH, LEGISLATIVE OPTIONS FOR MORE EQUITABLE TAX RELIEF. 
          SO PROVIDING THIS 10% UM, RECOMMENDATION IS ALSO NOT JUST A BALANCED APPROACH, BUT I THINK IT'S A MULTI-YEAR STRATEGY. 
          AS YOU'VE SEEN PROPERTY VALUES EXCEEDING THE ASSESSED VALUES THOSE MAY CARRY OVER TO NEXT YEAR. 
          UM, VALUES MAY INCREASE NEXT YEAR. 
          UH, AS WE'VE MENTIONED EVERY YEAR WE WILL COME BACK BASED ON THE FINANCIAL POLICIES ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL. 
          WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU WITH ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          UM, WE WILL, UH, PURSUE THOSE LEGISLATIVE OPTIONS. 
          SO HOPEFULLY WE HAVE A LOT OF TOOLS IN OUR TOOLKIT THAT WE CAN PURSUE. 
          WE CAN INCREASE THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION NEXT YEAR ABOVE AND BEYOND THE 10%. 
          HOPEFULLY WE HAVE LEGISLATIVE OPTIONS, UM, THAT WE CAN PURSUE, PROVIDE THAT FLEXIBILITY AND TARGETED PROPERTY TAX RELIEF. 
          UM, SO AS I MENTIONED, I BELIEVE THAT THIS PROVIDES A BALANCED APPROACH. 
          UM, PROVIDES A MULTI-YEAR STRATEGY TO ACTUALLY, UM, PURSUE THAT PROPERTY TAX RELIEF AND INCREASE THE EXEMPTIONS MORE IN THE FUTURE. 
          CLOSING UP THE PRESENTATION ON THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES, UM, IT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION TODAY TO INCREASE THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION TO 10%, INCREASE THE OVER 65 AND THE DISABLED PERSON'S EXEMPTION BOTH TO 85,000. 
          WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK TO PURSUE ADDITIONAL LEGISLATIVE OPTIONS FOR THE HOMESTEAD TAX RELIEF AND THEN ANNUAL REVIEW PROPERTY TAX RELIEF WITH A FOCUS ON HOMEOWNERS AND COMPLIANCE WITH CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED FINANCIAL POLICIES. 
          AND AS I MENTIONED ON THE PRIOR SLIDE, WE HAD THAT FLEXIBILITY WITH A 10%, UM, HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, UM, IN PLACE AS WELL AS A MULTI-YEAR STRATEGY TO COME BACK TO YOU TO INCREASE THAT. 
          AS FAR AS NEXT STEPS, UM, WE'LL BE REQUESTING YOUR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF STAFF RECOMMENDATION THIS MORNING. 
          UM, IF WE RECEIVE THAT APPROVAL, THEN WE WOULD SUBMIT THE ORDINANCE TO, UH, THE BEXAR COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT TO INCREASE THOSE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS. 
          WE NEED TO DO THAT BEFORE JULY 1ST. 
          WE WOULD PRESENT THE PROPOSED, UM, F Y 23 20 23 TAX RATE FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION ON AUGUST 11TH, ALONG WITH THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 PROPOSED BUDGET AND THE NEW EXEMPTIONS AND TAX RATES WOULD BE REFLECTIVE ON THE 2022 TAX BILL ISSUED ON OCTOBER 1ST. 
          MAYOR, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL HAVE. 
          MAYOR, LET ME JUST ADD ONE, ONE, UH, ASPECT AND REINFORCE SOMETHING THAT TROY UH, SAID. 
          EVERYTHING YOU SAW WITHIN 
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THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WAS INCLUDED IN OUR TRIAL BUDGET FOR THE 23 AND THE 24 BUDGET THAT YOU SAW, UH, A MONTH AGO. 
          SO IN CASE THERE'S ANY QUESTION THAT EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING INCLUDED IN TODAY'S RECOMMENDATION HAS BEEN TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT IT AT LEAST, UH, BUT FROM THE STAFF PERSPECTIVE AS IT RELATES TO THE, UM, THE TRIAL BUDGET, UH, AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET THAT WE WILL FINALIZE IN JULY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, ERIC, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          TROY. 
          OBVIOUSLY THERE'S BEEN A TON OF CONVERSATION ON THIS, UH, GOING BACK TO THE SUMMER, UH, OR THE SPRING IN OUR GOAL SETTING SESSION. 
          SO I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE HERE FINALLY TO TAKE SOME ACTION. 
          UH, WE DO HAVE A FEW CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR BEFORE WE GET INTO OUR COUNCIL DISCUSSION. 
          SO LET ME CALL THOSE FOLKS UP FIRST. 
          UH, WE'LL START WITH TRACY HASLAUER. 
          MS. HASLAUER, YOU BE FOLLOWED BY CHRIS BECKER. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          AS THE MAYOR SAID, I'M TRACY HAS LOCKER AND I AM THE CHAIRMAN OF THE SAN ANTONIO BOARD OF REALTORS. 
          I'M HERE TO REPRESENT SABOR AS WE SUPPORT POLICY CHANGES TO EXPAND PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTIONS THAT WILL KEEP FAMILIES FROM BEING TAXED OUT OF THEIR HOMES AND INCREASED AFFORDABILITY FOR RESIDENTS. 
          OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, SAN SAN ANTONIO HOMEOWNERS HAVE EXPERIENCED A DRAMATIC RISE IN HOME VALUES COMPARED TO APRIL OF 2021. 
          THE AVERAGE HOME SALES PRICE HAS INCREASED 20% TO AN AVERAGE SALES PRICE OF $396,000. 
          AND ACCORDING TO THE BEXAR COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT, THIS YEAR'S APPRAISAL VALUES ON SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE UP 28% WITH A RECORD NUMBER OF RESIDENTS PROTESTING THEIR PROPERTY APPRAISALS AT OVER 155,000. 
          AND WE JUST HEARD THE GENTLEMAN SAY, UH, IT'S OVER 170,000 AT THIS STAGE WORKING WITH THE ROSEN CONSULTING GROUP, WHICH I BELIEVE EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER HAS BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF THAT UM, REPORT, UM, AT A REAL ESTATE ECONOMICS FIRM. 
          SABOR FOUND THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR SAVINGS THROUGH TAX POLICY CHANGES AND THEREFORE SUPPORTS THE CITY'S EFFORTS TO ONE INCREASED CITY'S CURRENT HOMESTEAD TAX EXEMPTION FROM 0.01% TO 10%, WHICH SAVES A PROPERTY ASSESSED AT 300,000, ABOUT 164 THOU, $164 IN TOTAL SAVINGS THAT IMPACTS AT LEAST 240,000 HOUSEHOLDS THAT COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT INCREASED HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. 
          INCREASE THE OVER 65 TAX EXEMPTION FROM 65,000 TO $85,000, WHICH WOULD IMPACT AROUND 103,000 HOUSEHOLDS, INCREASE THE DISABLED PERSON'S TAX EXEMPTION FROM 12,500 TO $85,000, WHICH WOULD PROVIDE SAVINGS FOR ROUGHLY 7,000. 
          HOMEOWNERS LOWER THE CITY'S EXISTING TAX RATE, WHICH WILL NOT ONLY PROVIDE ADDITIONAL RELIEF TO HOMEOWNERS, BUT WILL PROVIDE RELIEF TO SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS AND HOUSING PROVIDERS AND THEIR TENANTS WHO ARE STRUGGLING. 
          DUE TO AFFORDABILITY CHALLENGES IN THE RENTAL HOUSING MARKET TAX SAVINGS OVER TIME COULD PROVIDE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN ADDITIONAL BENEFITS TO THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER RESOURCES THAT COULD HELP OFFSET A RISING HOUSING COST BURDEN WHILE ALSO GENERATING POSITIVE ECONOMIC ACTIVITY AND ACCOMPANYING TAX REVENUE. 
          WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE PROPERTY TAX RELIEF AND HOPE YOU WILL CONSIDER THESE MEASURES. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU MS. HASLAUER. 
          CHRIS BECKER. 
          MR. BECKER, YOU BE FOLLOWED BY PEN PHIL DE THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          COUNCIL. 
          UM, FIRST OF ALL, UH, BOARDS MATTER. 
          UH, GOVERNMENT DOESN'T PROVIDE CITIZENS WITH RELIEF. 
          CITIZENS PROVIDE GOVERNMENT WITH THE POWER TO CARRY OUT ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS. 
          UM, I TEACH ECONOMICS AT NORTHWEST VISTA COLLEGE IN DISTRICT SIX. 
          I'M ALSO THE PEER OF INFUSE SA. 
          WE, UH, EXIST TO ADVANCE THE ECONOMIC AND PERSONAL FREEDOM OF ALL CITIZENS OF BEAR COUNTY. 
          UH, THIS IS AN EASY CALL. 
          IT'S ONLY HALF AS QUOTE MEETINGLESS AS THE PROPOSAL THAT THE COUNCIL REJECTED LAST YEAR. 
          IT'S HALFWAY TO WHERE OTHER LARGE TEXAS CITIES ARE, AND IT'S 10% OF THE WAY TO WHERE WE ULTIMATELY SHOULD BE. 
          IT CAN BE DONE. 
          UH, WE NEED TO GET OUT OF THE WAY OF POTENTIAL AND ACTUAL JOB CREATORS AND STOP DISINCENTIVIZING THOSE WHO WOULD TAKE THOSE JOBS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MR. BECKER. 
          ELA DEO. 
          IS MR. DEO HERE? OKAY, WE'RE GONNA MOVE NOW INTO OUR COUNCIL DISCUSSION. 
          UH, LET ME FIRST ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR. 
          MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND 
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FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR. 
          WE'LL JUMP RIGHT INTO COUNCIL CONVERSATION. 
          LET ME, LET ME FIRST START, THOUGH BY SAYING THAT, UH, OBVIOUSLY, UH, THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, THE WHOLE STATE, FRANKLY, THE NATION IS FEELING THE PRESSURE AND BURDEN OF PROPERTY, OF PROPERTY TAXES, UH, AT THE WORST POSSIBLE TIME, IN ADDITION TO UNCERTAINTY IN OUR ECONOMY AND, AND INFLATION AND A WHOLE HOST OF OTHER THINGS. 
          UH, SO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY STAFF BEEN WORKING VERY HARD TO FIND WAYS USING OUR LIMITED LEVERS THAT WE CAN PULL TO PROVIDE RELIEF, UH, TO DO SO IN THE MOST EQUITABLE AND FAIR MANNER, AND TO PROVIDE THE BEST IMPACT FOR THOSE WHO ARE NEEDING IT THE MOST, UH, FOLKS ON FIXED INCOME, UH, THOSE IN LOWER INCOME COMMUNITIES WHO HAVE BEEN FEELING THE BURDEN FOR YEARS. 
          AND SO, I APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE STAFF, UH, PARTICULARLY ON THIS SUITE OF EXEMPTIONS AND RATE DECREASE THAT WOULD PROVIDE A COMPREHENSIVE SET OF, UH, RELIEF MEASURES FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UH, IT'S NO EASY FEAT GIVEN THE, AGAIN, LIMITED OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE TO DO SO, UH, BUT INCREASING THE EXEMPTION FOR OUR SENIORS, UH, INCREASING THE EXEMPTION FOR OUR DISABLED COMMUNITY, UH, INCREASING THE HOMESTEAD ALL AT THE SAME TIME, UH, AND ALSO PROVIDING SOME RELIEF, UH, FOR MULTI-FAMILY UNITS AND SMALL BUSINESSES THROUGH THE RATE DECREASE IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS, IS, UM, UH, VERY BENEFICIAL AT THE BEST POSSIBLE TIME. 
          UH, WISH WE COULD DO MORE, OBVIOUSLY, BUT THAT WILL TAKE COOPERATION WITH THE OTHER TAXING JURISDICTIONS AND MOST SIGNIFICANTLY WITH THE STATE. 
          BUT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS COMMITTED TO DOING ITS PART, AND I'M VERY GLAD THAT WE'LL BE TAKING ACTION ON IT TODAY. 
          SO LET ME GO RIGHT INTO DISCUSSION. 
          WE'LL START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          BRAVO. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR TROY. 
          THAT, THAT WAS REALLY PAINFUL FOR ME TO SIT THROUGH THAT, THAT, UH, PRESENTATION. 
          I THINK IT WAS ACTUALLY THE MOST PAINFUL PRESENTATION FOR ME OF ANY SINCE I'VE BEEN IN COUNCIL. 
          AND, AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE I'VE WANTED TO DO MORE. 
          AND I'VE BEEN, I'VE HEARD FROM SO MANY OF MY CONSTITUENTS ASKING FOR US TO, FOR, FOR PROPERTY TAX RELIEF. 
          AND SINCE I'VE BEEN IN COUNCIL, I'VE MET WITH, UH, THE BEX COUNTY CHIEF APPRAISER, UM, THREE TIMES. 
          UH, MY STAFF AND I MET WITH, UH, A THINK TANK OUTTA DC THAT WORKS ON, UH, TAX REFORM AND TAX SOLUTIONS EVERY DAY. 
          AND WE GOT ADVICE FROM THEM. 
          AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE LISTENED TO MY CONSTITUENTS AND I, I WANTED TO DO MORE THAN WHAT YOU WERE PRESENTING, AND I KNOW I HIT YOU AND I HIT BEN WITH A FLURRY OF QUESTIONS AT THE LAST MINUTE, AND I WAS TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE COULD DO. 
          AND IT TURNS OUT, LIKE AFTER REACHING OUT TO ALL THESE EXPERTS AND, AND LOOKING FOR EVERY, YOU KNOW, EVERY POSSIBLE THING THAT WE COULD DO THAT WOULD BE BETTER THAN THIS, I'M NOT SMARTER THAN YOU. 
          I'M NOT SMARTER THAN BEN GELLE. 
          YOU ALL ACTUALLY CAME UP WITH A REALLY GOOD PROPOSAL THAT'S REALLY BALANCED. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE SPEAKERS JUST SAID THAT WE'RE DOING HALF OF WHAT OTHER CITIES DO. 
          THAT'S NOT TRUE. 
          WE ACTUALLY DO MORE, IT WASN'T IN THIS PRESENTATION, BUT IT'S BEEN IN PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE GIVEN. 
          WE DO MORE FOR SENIOR CITIZENS THAN MOST TEXAS CITIES DO. 
          RIGHT? AND YES, WE COULD, UM, MAKE AN AMENDMENT IF WE WANTED TO RIGHT NOW, TO INCREASE THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, BUT IF WE DID THAT, THAT WOULD BE AT THE EXPENSE OF RENTERS, RIGHT? AND THAT WOULD BE AT THE EXPENSE OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS. 
          AND SO, IN FACT, WHAT, WHAT YOU CAME UP WITH WAS A GOOD, BALANCED APPROACH. 
          UM, AND IT'S MEANINGFUL. 
          AND SO I'M GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU ALL PUT INTO THIS. 
          UM, EVEN IF I DIDN'T COMPLETELY APPRECIATE IT AT FIRST. 
          UH, I DO WANT TO ASK, UM, YOU SAID THERE WAS AN ESTIMATED 5 BILLION IN LOSS, UM, UH, FOR THE PROPERTY CHA FOR PEOPLE CHALLENGING THEIR PROPERTY VALUATIONS, UM, IN REVENUES FOR US. 
          UM, DO YOU HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF HOW MUCH OF THAT WOULD BE RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL? WE CAN GET THAT. 
          I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME TODAY. 
          UM, THOSE ARE BASED ON HISTORICAL ESTIMATES, BUT I COULD PROVIDE THAT. 
          I DO NOT HAVE IT WITH ME TODAY. 
          GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. 
          UH, COUNCILWOMAN ROCHA GARCIA. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM. 
          AND, UM, TROY, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          UM, I'M ESPECIALLY HAPPY ABOUT, UH, THE FACT THAT THE, UM, THAT WE'RE INCREASING THE DISABLED AMOUNT FROM 12,500 FOR THE AIR EXEMPTION TO 85,000, AND THAT IT'S GONNA IMPACT APPROXIMATELY 7,000 ACCOUNTS. 
          I THINK I'VE, I'VE TOLD YOU BEFORE, UM, IN, IN THE CITY, ONE IN EVERY SEVEN RESIDENTS HAS, UH, A DISABILITY. 
          BUT IN DISTRICT FOUR, IT'S ONE IN EVERY FOUR. 
          AND SO, UM, I KNOW THAT MY RESIDENTS WILL BE BENEFITING A LOT. 
          AND SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR, FOR YOUR THOUGHTFUL ANALYSIS AND, AND ALSO TO BEN AND TO THE REST OF YOUR TEAM, UM, FOR, FOR TRYING TO GIVE SOME, SOME ADDITIONAL RELIEF. 
          I ACTUALLY DON'T, DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BECAUSE I THINK I'VE 
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ASKED THEM ALL ALREADY. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR PROAM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILWOMAN. 
          UH, COUNCILWOMAN VERAN. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          SO, I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF, UH, TROY, BEN, THE REST OF THE TEAM. 
          YOU GUYS HAVE DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB AS WE BEGAN THE BUDGET WORK SESSION ALL THOSE MONTHS AGO. 
          UH, YOU KNEW THE QUESTIONS, I HAD THE CONCERNS. 
          AND THROUGH THIS TIME AND FUTURE DISCUSSIONS, YOU HAVE ADDRESSED THEM VERY WELL. 
          I WANNA THANK SABOR FOR REACHING OUT, FOR PUTTING THE WORD OUT THERE, THAT THIS WAS IMPORTANT. 
          AS WE, WE WENT THROUGH THESE, UM, THIS PROCESS, AND WE SAW INFLATION GROWING, AND WE SAW THE PROPERTY TAX, UM, PROPERTY TAX COME OUT. 
          WE KNEW THAT WE NEEDED RELIEF. 
          WE KNEW THAT THINGS WERE GETTING MORE DIFFICULT FOR OUR RESIDENTS. 
          SO I THINK IT'S TO YOUR EFFORT, CITY STAFF AND TO THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT WERE PART OF THAT, THAT WE ASK QUESTIONS AND IN A TIMELY MANNER, YOU WERE ABLE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH US. 
          YOU WERE ABLE TO ADDRESS OUR ISSUES, AND I'M READY TO SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE TODAY. 
          I THINK ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES, THOUGH, I DON'T WANNA SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE, AND THEN WE'RE LIKE, GREAT, WE SUPPORTED THIS ORDINANCE. 
          LOOK WHAT WE DID. 
          I THINK THERE'S, UH, STEPS OF ACTION WE NEED TO TAKE FROM STARTING TODAY. 
          AND ONE OF THEM IS, UH, JEFF COLE, AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE, IS THAT YOUR TEAM NEEDS TO MAKE A LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY ABOUT HOW WE, UM, LEVERAGE THE STATE INTO LOOKING FOR, UH, SOME SORT OF RELIEF FOR OUR LEGACY HOMEOWNERS. 
          OR IF WE NEED TO FIND A DIFFERENT TERMINOLOGY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE PRESSURE THAT WE HAVE. 
          I THINK THE OTHER THING IS GETTING OUT AND ENCOURAGING. 
          LIKE MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUE COUNCILMAN PERRY HAD SAID THOSE OTHER TAXING ENTITIES IN THE CITY TO PROVIDE SOME SORT OF RELIEF. 
          AND IF IT CANNOT BE WHAT EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE, AT LEAST FOR OUR SENIORS AND THOSE LIVING WITH DISABILITIES, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE THAT, AND I THINK STAKEHOLDERS AS WE ARE HERE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE, AND AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND, UM, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FILL OUT APPLICATIONS TO GET THAT HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, MAKE SURE THAT ALL THEIR INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE TO GET THAT, UM, THAT THOSE EXEMPTIONS FOR DISABILITY DISABILITIES. 
          AND THOSE OVER 65, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE AN AGING POPULATION. 
          UM, ON MAY 9TH, WE HELD A PROPERTY TAX WORKSHOP IN WHICH I HAD, UM, THE EX, THE ALBERT ESTA AND I WERE THERE BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANNA BRING B C, A IN BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT IT TO START INTO A COMPLAINING SESSION OF B C A D. 
          I WANTED US TO LOOK FOR SOLUTIONS. 
          AND THE ONE THING I SAW IS THAT THEY, THEY WANT RELIEF, AND THEY ALSO, OUR RESIDENTS FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A STATE LEGISLATIVE ISSUE AND THAT WE NEED TO GO TO OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES, AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO CONVENE THEM AND ORGANIZE THEM, THAT THEY'RE TALKING TO THEIR STATE REPRESENTATIVES ABOUT THE RELIEF THAT THEY NEED FOR THEIR PROPERTY TAXES. 
          SO I LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING THIS, UH, FORWARD TODAY. 
          IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT AS GREAT AMOUNT AS WE'D LIKE, BUT I THINK IT'S A BEGINNING AND A START, AND THAT THIS IS, THIS IS A STEP THAT'S NOT GOING TO JUST, THAT IT'S GOING TO HELP US LEAD OUT OF THIS PANDEMIC. 
          THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK. 
          I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER GRO. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY THAT THIS HAS BEEN EVALUATED CONCURRENTLY WITH OUR BUDGET, AND I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO REMIND ME, PLEASE, WHAT IS OUR, UM, ESTIMATED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 23? THE, FOR THE TRIAL BUDGET? MM-HMM. 
          , UH, IT WAS, UH, RIGHT FOR THE GENERAL FUND WAS RIGHT ABOUT $1.3 BILLION. 
          1.3? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE CAN STILL EXPECT AN INCREASE IN THE CITY BUDGET. 
          YOU KNOW, EARLY ON IN THIS COUNCIL DISCUSSION, I STATED THAT I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF AN INCREASED HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AND A DECREASE IN OUR TAX RATE. 
          BUT MY EXPECTATION HAS BEEN THAT WE FIND WAYS THAT ARE GONNA MAKE IT SO THAT THOSE WHO ARE MORE WELL OFF ARE NOT BENEFITING MORE THAN THOSE WHO HAVE GREATER NEED. 
          AND I'M NOT ENTIRELY CONVINCED THAT WE CAN GET THERE ON OUR OWN AT, AT THE CITY LEVEL. 
          AND AS I, YOU KNOW, AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, OUR DISTRICT TWO OFFICE HOSTED TWO PROPERTY TAX ASSISTANCE CLINICS, WHERE WE ASSISTED RESIDENTS WITH APPLICATIONS FOR TAX RELIEF AND ASSISTANCE WITH PROTESTING THEIR PROPERTY TAXES. 
          AND WE'VE ALSO RECEIVED NUMEROUS CALLS, AS I'M SURE ALL OF YOU GUYS HAVE AS WELL, UM, FROM RESIDENTS REQUESTING ONE-ON-ONE, ONE-ON-ONE ASSISTANCE, AND WE'RE HELPING AS MANY PEOPLE AS 
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WE CAN. 
          HOWEVER, WITH THIS ONE VOTE, I DO BELIEVE THAT WE WILL SOMEWHAT HELP OUR VULNERABLE FAMILIES BY SAVING HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS AT A TIME WHEN IT HAS BEEN DIFFICULT TO MAKE ENDS MEET. 
          I CONTINUE, YOU KNOW, THIS VOTE TODAY IS A GOOD START, BUT IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO PREVENT THE DISPLACEMENT OF RESIDENTS IN THE NEAR EAST SIDE CAUSED BY RISING PROPERTY TAXES. 
          WE KNOW THEY'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO RISE. 
          WE KNOW THAT THIS IS GONNA BE A SMALL CHUNK OF THEIR BILL AND A SMALL CHUNK OF RELIEF. 
          AND WE NEED TO DO MORE TO PROTECT THE FABRIC OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND ENSURE THAT OLDER RESIDENTS CAN AGE IN PLACE AND FAMILIES CAN KEEP THEIR BIGGEST OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD GENERATIONAL WEALTH. 
          AND THAT IS HOME OWNERSHIP. 
          I ALSO BELIEVE WE SHOULD DO MORE AT THE STATE LEVEL TO ENSURE WE KEEP OUR NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORS SAFE AND HOUSED. 
          AND SO WHILE WE AT THE CITY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING AS MUCH AS WE CAN. 
          AND I DO BELIEVE THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE OF THE LARGEST STEPS WE'VE TAKEN. 
          I WOULD IMPLORE MY, MY FRIENDS AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE WRITE A BAIL, PLEASE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          WELL, THIS ISN'T SOMETHING CITY COUNCIL GETS TO DO EVERY DAY, SO I WANTED TO BE SURE THAT I EXPRESSED MY SUPPORT, UM, FOR THE WORK OF, UH, TROY AND BEN, AND ENSURING THAT WE CAME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT BRINGS MUCH NEEDED PROPERTY TAX RELIEF TO THE RESIDENTS OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          UM, I AM EXTREMELY PLEASED THAT WE ARE SEEING THE INCREASE FOR SENIOR RELIEF, UM, IN MY DISTRICT, RIGHT? I KNOW THIS ISN'T UNIQUE TO DISTRICT FIVE, BUT WE HAVE FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN IN THEIR HOMES FOR, FOR DECADES, IF NOT GENERATIONS. 
          AND WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE DOING ALL WE CAN TO ENSURE THAT THEY CAN PASS ON THAT GENERATIONAL WEALTH, UH, TO THE NEXT GENERATION. 
          AND WE ALSO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT SAN ANTONIO AND THE AUSTIN REGION, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW. 
          AND INNER CITY HOMES, OF COURSE, AND OUR SUBURBAN COMMUNITIES TO THE NORTH WILL BE AT PREMIUM. 
          WE KNOW THIS IS PRIME REAL ESTATE. 
          SO I'M PROUD TO JOIN MY COLLEAGUES AND, UH, GRATEFUL FOR, UH, COUNCILMAN PERRY AND COURAGE WHO HAVE BEEN, UH, ASKING FOR THIS TIME AND TIME AGAIN, AND PLEASED TO SEE WE'RE NOW HERE TO WHERE I'M SURE THIS WILL PASS UNANIMOUSLY. 
          I'M HOPEFUL THAT COUNCIL WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT LAYERING ADDITIONAL PROPERTY TAX RELIEF AND PROGRAMMING, UM, AND ESPECIALLY BY SUPPORTING AND EXPLORING, UM, THE SENIOR VOLUNTEER PILOT PROGRAM THAT OUR OFFICE PUT FORWARD TARGETED RELIEF TO ENSURE THAT OUR SENIORS HAVE AN ADDITIONAL TOOL ON THE TABLE, UM, TO SEEK ADDITIONAL RELIEF. 
          IN MANY OF OUR DISTRICTS, WE DEAL WITH THE DIGITAL DIVIDE. 
          AND I KNOW, UH, COUNCILMAN BRAVO HAS, UM, FREQUENTLY BROUGHT UP PARTNERING WITH, UH, AGENCIES TO HELP EX, UM, SHARE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS PROPERTY TAX RELIEF. 
          UM, I KNOW ETL WITH U T S A AND TEXAS HOUSERS, THE ENTRA AS WELL. 
          UM, THEY DO A LOT OF OUTREACH WITHIN COMMUNITIES TO CHECK IN TO SEE WHO DOES AND DOESN'T HAVE A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. 
          I THINK THAT'S MUCH NEEDED. 
          UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GOING OUT INTO OUR COMMUNITIES, UM, TO SEE THAT THEY ONE, HAVE THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. 
          IF NOT, HOW DO WE GET THEM CONNECTED TO IT? UM, SO DO WE KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY, IF WE CAN CREATE SOME LITS, SOME DOOR HANGERS FOR US TO GO INTO, UH, HIGH EQUITY SCORED AREAS TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WE HAVE INCREASED THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AND THEY CAN APPLY FOR IT. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN DO? Y YEAH. 
          COUNCILMAN COUNCILWOMAN. 
          UM, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL TALKED A LOT ABOUT AT THE WORK SESSION IN APRIL, AND, AND I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT WE BUILD INTO SOME SORT OF, UM, ELEMENT OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET YOU'LL SEE IN AUGUST. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU, ERIC. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT NEWS. 
          UM, MY HOPE IS THAT WE KEEP THIS MOMENTUM GOING, RIGHT? AND WHEN WE, UH, CRAFT THAT LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, UH, WE MAKE THE ASK FOR MORE PROPERTY TAX RELIEF AT THE STATE LEVEL. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, NOW'S A GOOD TIME TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO NEED TO KEEP IN MIND OUR RENTERS. 
          I KNOW SOME FOLKS HAVE BROUGHT THAT UP AS WELL, UH, ENSURING THAT WE'RE DOING ALL WE CAN TO KEEP THEM HOUSED. 
          WE KNOW THAT THE HOUSING ASSISTANCE PORTAL HAS CLOSED. 
          UM, SO THAT'S MORE FOLKS NEEDING ASSISTANCE. 
          AND, UH, I WOULD LIKE SUPPORT, UM, FOR MY COLLEAGUES TO IDENTIFY FUNDING TO ENSURE THAT WE COULD KEEP MORE FOLKS HOUSED AND LESS FOLKS ON THE STREETS. 
          UM, THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER KEO. 
          HDA. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR THEIR PRESENTATION. 
          I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THIS ITEM, LOOK FORWARD AND LOOK FORWARD TO INCREASING IT NEXT YEAR AS WELL. 
          HOPEFULLY, I APPRECIATE THE WORK THE CITY DID TO RELIEVE THE TAX BURDEN ON OUR RESIDENTS, SOME OF WHOM ARE DROWNING FINANCIALLY RIGHT NOW DUE TO PROPERTY TAXES, GAS PRICES, UM, SO MUCH MORE, UH, RISE IN COSTS. 
          MY MAIN CONCERN IS MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE COMMUNICATING THE, IN THE INCREASE, MAKING SURE OUR RESIDENTS KNOW THAT THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS TAX RELIEF. 
          UM, ERIC, YOU JUST ADDRESSED THAT TODAY, SO I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I DO HAVE A, JUST A, A QUICK QUESTION. 
          I'M A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED. 
          I THINK IT WAS SLIDE 12, YOU HAD, UM, THE AVERAGE HOME PRICE IN EACH DISTRICT. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? UH, WE DID HAVE THE, UM, THE MARKET VALUE AND THE, UM, AVERAGE TAXABLE VALUE. 
          CAN YOU PULL THAT SLIDE UP? 
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I, I'M JUST SURPRISED AT THE AMOUNTS. 
          THEY SEEM PRETTY LOW. 
          UM, I MEAN, I THINK IF YOU ASK ANY REAL ESTATE AGENT IN THIS ROOM, 200, UM, IN DISTRICT 6, 211 DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THE AVERAGE HOME PRICE THESE DAYS. 
          THAT IS THE HOMESTEAD MARKET VALUE, AND THAT'S STRAIGHT FROM THE INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVE FROM B C A. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT WILL CONTINUE TO CHANGE, OF COURSE, AS WE GET THROUGH CERTIFICATION. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT I'M JUST A LITTLE, THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE WHAT I'M SEEING OUT THERE, BUT, UM, BUT I APPRECIATE IT. 
          UM, I MEAN, I AM EXCITED TO SEE THIS TAX RELIEF FOR OUR CITIZENS. 
          IT WASN'T VERY LONG AGO. 
          I WAS A NEWLY ELECTED COUNCIL MEMBER, AND A COUNCILMAN PERRY CAME OVER TO TALK TO ME, AND, UH, DID, DID THE LEGWORK, AND REALLY CONVINCED THAT COUNCIL AT THAT TIME TO OPEN THE DOOR TO THIS. 
          I THINK IT, AND WE DID. 
          UM, WE GOT CRITICISM BACK THEN BECAUSE IT WASN'T ENOUGH. 
          UM, AND A LOT OF WHAT WE SAID A COUPLE YEARS AGO WAS THAT WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA KEEP ADDING TO IT. 
          SO HERE WE ARE TODAY. 
          I'M GRATEFUL TO FULFILL THAT PROMISE. 
          AND AS WE HEARD TODAY, THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT. 
          I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT BOTH INDUSTRY REAL ESTATE AND OTHER BUSINESSES, BUSINESS OWNERS, AND ESPECIALLY THE, OF COURSE, THE GENERAL PROPERTY OWNER AND THE, THE GENERAL RENTER. 
          AS OUR CITY GROWS AND MORE PEOPLE MOVE TO SAN ANTONIO, IT'S EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO HELP OUR RESIDENTS AND LOCAL BUSINESSES STAY AND THRIVE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          SO, I APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER COVEO. 
          HDA, COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, I WAS, I WAS TAKEN BY THE REMARKS THAT ONE OF OUR EARLY SPEAKERS SAID, AND I THINK IT'S VERY TRUE THAT, UH, GOVERNMENT IS HERE, UH, AND IT'S REALLY THE CITIZENS THAT DRIVE GOVERNMENT, AND IT'S, IT'S THE TAXES AND THE FEES THAT THEY PAY THAT ALLOWS CITY GOVERNMENTS TO FUNCTION. 
          AND, AND I THINK THAT'S, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT RIGHT NOW, WE, UH, ARE ALWAYS STRIVING TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ARE ASKING FOR OR DEMANDING. 
          UH, AND WE ARE FINDING THAT THE COST FOR DOING THAT CONTINUES TO GROW. 
          AND WE CAN ALWAYS MAKE DECISIONS SUCH AS LOWERING THE TAX RATE BY REDUCING SERVICES OR PROJECTS OR DEVELOPMENT, OR WE CAN STAY THE COURSE, BUT AS, AS CAREFULLY AS POSSIBLE, WE CAN PROVIDE SOME RELIEF FROM THE TAXES THAT, AND FEES THAT, UH, OUR CITIZENS HAVE TO PAY. 
          UH, COUNCILMAN PERRY AND I HAVE BEEN ADVOCATES FOR WHAT WE CONSIDER TAX RELIEF SINCE WE BOTH GOT ON THE COUNCIL FIVE YEARS AGO. 
          UH, BUT WE'VE GONE THROUGH SOME REALLY CHALLENGING TIMES. 
          I THINK NO ONE CAN QUESTION WHAT THE PANDEMIC DID FOR THE ECONOMIC STABILITY OF, OF OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, AND FOR MANY OF YOUR, YOUR ECONOMIC, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, SITUATION YOURSELVES. 
          AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK OUR WAY OUT OF THIS. 
          UH, I'M APPRECIATIVE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY. 
          UH, WHAT WE'RE SAYING AS A CITY IS THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ASK THE CITIZENS TO PAY $93 MILLION WORTH OF TAXES BASED ON THE VALUES OF THEIR HOMESTEADS. 
          UH, AND, AND THAT'S AN INCREASE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE, AND I THINK WE WILL SEE MORE, BUT IT'S GOTTA BE A STEADY AND SLOW PROCESS. 
          UH, I'M HOPEFUL THAT NEXT YEAR WE'LL SIT AND LOOK AT OUR BUDGET AND FIND OUT HOW WE'VE DONE THIS YEAR, AND BE ABLE TO SAY, OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND LET'S RAISE THAT HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, ANOTHER $20,000. 
          LET'S GO AHEAD AND, AND RAISE THE, UM, THE OTHER SOURCES OF DISCOUNTS FOR PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          I'D LOVE TO SEE THE, UH, HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS GO UP TO, UH, A HUNDRED THOUSAND. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, AND I, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD MAKE A, A DIFFERENCE AGAIN. 
          UH, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, HAVE TO SEE ABOUT RAISING, UH, THE PERCENTAGE THAT WE'VE GOT FROM 10 TO MAYBE 15 AND EVENTUALLY GET TO 20, UH, AS FAR AS, UH, FOR INDIVIDUAL, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS OR, OR HOMEOWNERS. 
          SO I THINK THERE'S STILL WORK TO BE DONE. 
          I THINK IT'S STEP BY STEP. 
          BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD STEP AT THIS TIME. 
          AND WE NEED TO KEEP OUR EYE ON, EYES ON, ON THE ECONOMY AND YOUR PERSONAL ECONOMY SO WE UNDERSTAND, UH, HOW ALL OF THESE DECISIONS AFFECT YOUR LIVES AND YOUR FAMILIES. 
          AND I THINK THIS IS, THIS IS ONE THAT IS A GOOD ONE FOR US TO MAKE, AND IT'LL ENABLE US TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT YOU RES, RE REQUIRE AND EXPECT 
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FROM YOUR CITY. 
          SO, I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          I WANT EVERYBODY TO LOOK AT ME RIGHT NOW. 
          THAT'S PEREGRINE. 
          I AM HAPPY. 
          I'M HAPPY BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW. 
          LISTEN, I, I HAD THIS AS A, UH, PERSONAL CRUSADE STARTING BACK IN 2017. 
          GOT VERY LITTLE SUPPORT. 
          TOOK THREE YEARS TO START A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION HERE. 
          AND WE MADE A COMMITMENT. 
          WE DID IT IN 2019, BUT I WAS VERY SPECIFIC SAYING, THIS IS AT THE VERY LOWEST LEVEL, BUT IT'S A START. 
          IT'S A START FOR THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. 
          WE'RE HERE TODAY AFTER A COUPLE MORE YEARS, SAYING, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THAT NEXT STEP, 10%. 
          WE'VE GOT ADDITIONAL, UH, DISABILITY OVER 65 AND A TAX RATE REDUCTION. 
          LOOK, I'M, I'M, I'M AS HAPPY AS CAN BE ABOUT THAT, AND I'M, I'M, I'M HAPPY. 
          NOT FOR ME, BUT FOR OUR TAXPAYERS, OUR HOMEOWNERS FOLKS OUT THERE THAT ARE PAYING TAXES, IT'S NOT OUR MONEY. 
          THIS ISN'T OUR MONEY. 
          IT'S THE TAXPAYER'S MONEY OUT THERE, AND THEY NEED HELP. 
          THEY NEED RELIEF. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. 
          UH, THERE'S BEEN SOME MENTION ABOUT THE STATE. 
          THE STATE PASSED TWO CONSTITUTION CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS THIS LAST, UH, UH, VOTING PERIOD. 
          AND THAT'S GONNA HELP. 
          GUESS WHO FOLLOWED OUR LEAD? THE COUNTY FOLLOWED OUR LEAD. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOW, UH, GONNA BE PRESENTING A 20% HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER TAXING ENTITIES OUT THERE. 
          AND I'VE MADE IT A PERSONAL, UM, ANOTHER PERSONAL CRUSADE, IF YOU WILL, TO GO OUT AND VISIT EVERY ONE OF THESE OTHER TAXING ENTITIES SAYING, LOOK AT YOUR BUDGET. 
          WHAT HAS HAPPENED OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS? YOU, YOUR BUDGETS HAVE INCREASED, JUST LIKE THE CITIES HAS INCREASED EVERY, EVERY YEAR. 
          SHOULDN'T YOU CONSIDER ESTABLISHING A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION IN YOUR ORGANIZATION AS WELL? SO THAT, I'VE TAKEN THAT ON. 
          I SAID THAT AT POLICY DISCUSSION. 
          I'M GONNA DO THAT. 
          UH, I WANTED TO GET PAST THIS, THIS FIRST TO SEE IF WE HAD CONCURRENCE AND GET A VOTE ON THIS, TO PASS THIS ON UP TO THE STATE BY THE 1ST OF JULY. 
          UM, I'M, I'M HAPPY THAT WE'RE AT THIS POINT, UH, TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, UM, THIS THOUGH, TROY OR BEN, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. 
          AND THIS GOES TO THE CITY BUDGETS YEAR AFTER YEAR. 
          WE'VE HAD CARRYOVERS YEAR AFTER YEAR THAT WE COULD HAVE FUNDED, UH, HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OVER THE LAST, LAST THREE YEARS AT THIS LEVEL BECAUSE OF CARRYOVERS. 
          THAT'S ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAT WE HAD. 
          WE EITHER SPENT IT ON OTHER THINGS, OR, UH, WE CARRIED IT OVER, UH, INTO THE NEXT YEAR. 
          ARE WE LOOKING THAT WE WILL HAVE ANY CARRYOVER FROM THIS YEAR TO NEXT YEAR? WHERE ARE WE AT RIGHT NOW? SO ACTUALLY, UH, EITHER MAYBE MARIA MIGHT BE BETTER ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, BUT YES, SIR. 
          AND, AND ANYTHING THAT'S NOT SPENT AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WE ROLL FORWARD. 
          REMEMBER, WE HAVE A TWO YEAR BALANCE BUDGET. 
          AND WHAT YOU SAW IN MAY WHEN WE SHOWED THE TRIAL BUDGET FOR 23 AND 24, WE BALANCED OUT BOTH THOSE FISCAL YEARS. 
          AND, AND, UM, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT AGAIN IN AP IN AUGUST WHEN WE LAY OUT THE PROPOSED BUDGET, WE WILL BALANCE OVER TWO YEARS SO THAT REVENUE CARRIES FORWARD IF WE, IF WE DON'T HAVE IT, IT ROLLS INTO THE FOLLOWING YEAR AND SETS THAT BEGINNING BALANCE FOR US. 
          AND, AND WE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE DO THE PROJECTIONS. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY PROJECTION RIGHT NOW ON WHAT THAT'S GONNA BE? 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR WE GET, WE SEEM TO GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM C P S FROM SAWS THAT, UH, THEY HAD EXTRA REVENUE THAT, UH, WE GET FROM THEM AS WELL. 
          SO DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THAT'S GONNA BE AT THE END OF THIS YEAR? SURE, COUNCILMAN. 
          SO, UM, THE LATEST PROJECTIONS THAT WE HAVE IS WHAT WE PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL AS PART OF THE FIVE YEAR FINANCIAL FORECAST. 
          AND AT THAT POINT, IT WAS ROUGHLY ABOUT $40 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE OVER AND ABOVE WHAT WE HAD INCLUDED IN THE ADOPTED BUDGET. 
          WE ARE REVISING THOSE NUMBERS. 
          OUR SALES TAX CONTINUE TO, UM, PERFORM BETTER THAN EXPECTED. 
          SO WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU AS PART OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET ON AUGUST 11, WE'LL HAVE THAT UPDATE WITH THE LATEST NUMBERS TO ADDRESS YOUR FIRST QUESTION AS WE, THE, THE, 
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UH, FINANCIAL POLICY OF THE CITY COUNCIL IS TO HAVE A TWO YEAR BALANCE BUDGET. 
          WE USE THAT ADDITIONAL LENDING BALANCE IN THE FIRST YEAR TO BE ABLE TO BALANCE THE SECOND YEAR, AND THEN HAVE OUR BUDGETED FINANCIAL RESERVES AT 10%, AND THEN OUR GENERAL FUND ENDING BALANCE AT 15%. 
          UM, THAT'LL CONTINUE TO BE OUR POLICY AS WE PREPARE THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 23 AND 24. 
          BUT IF WE TAKE A LOOK, YOU SAID $40 MILLION, ROUGHLY ABOUT $40 MILLION. 
          OKAY. 
          AND TROY, IF WE WENT UP TO 20%, HOW MUCH WOULD JUST ROUND FIGURES, HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL WOULD WE NEED TO FUND UP TO THE 20%? I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS. 
          I DON'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, COUNCILMAN. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE A POINT HERE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE MONEY AVAILABLE THAT WE COULD ALLOCATE GOING UP TO THE 20%. 
          UH, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I, I'VE BEEN SAYING YEAR AFTER YEAR, SAYING WE HAD THE MONEY AVAILABLE TO GO UP, TAKE IT UP THE NEXT LEVEL FOR THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. 
          SO, UM, AGAIN, I'M, I'M REALLY SUPPORTING THIS. 
          THIS IS, UH, BEN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO SAY? UH, COUNCILMAN, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR FINANCIAL POLICY IN THAT TWO YEAR BUDGET NUMBER, THAT NUMBER FLUCTUATES. 
          SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE 40 MILLION, THAT IS A ONE-TIME SOURCE OF FUNDING THAT WE APPLY TO THE SECOND YEAR, YOU'VE SEEN THAT NUMBER. 
          YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE IN THE $10 MILLION RANGE, IT CAN BE IN THE $40 MILLION RANGE. 
          THAT IS REALLY ONE OF THE STRENGTH OF STRENGTHS OF OUR FINANCIAL POLICY, IS THAT WHILE WE TARGET TO HAVE THAT MINIMUM ENDING FUND BALANCE OF 15%, IT'S A MINIMUM. 
          AND WE EXPECT TO DO BETTER, UM, BECAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE A, A, A SOLID POSITION THAT ALLOWS US TO ADJUST. 
          I MEAN, IF ANYTHING WE'VE LEARNED THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THINGS CHANGE ON A DIME REAL QUICK, AND WE'VE GOTTA BE ABLE TO REACT. 
          THIS PUTS US IN A POSITION TO DO THAT. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT FOR YOU AS PART OF OUR FINANCIAL POLICY. 
          THAT IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE FOR US. 
          TOTALLY UNDERSTAND, AND THANK YOU, BEN. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          AND TROY, THANK YOU AGAIN. 
          UM, THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, AND I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE, UH, WE HAVEN'T HAD THE VOTE YET, BUT, UM, I'M HOPING TO GET A UNANIMOUS DECISION HERE TO SUPPORT THIS FOR OUR TAXPAYERS, HOMEOWNERS, AND FOLKS THAT REALLY NEED THE HELP HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          AND, AND THIS IS THE STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          AND HOPEFULLY, UH, AFTER WE GO THROUGH OUR BUDGETING PROCESS AND SEE WHAT WE HAVE FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR, WE CAN SAY, HEY, WE CAN AFFORD TO STEP IT UP AGAIN, WHETHER IT'S 15 OR 20, UP TO THE MAX OF 20%. 
          SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT, LOOKING FORWARD TO THOSE DISCUSSIONS. 
          BUT I'M REALLY HAPPY ON WHAT I'M HEARING FROM MY COLLEAGUES UP HERE TO SUPPORT THIS. 
          SO I'M ALL, I'M ALL IN ON THIS, AND I JUST WANNA SHOW YOU MY SMILEY FACE, A PERM GRAND AGAIN. 
          SO THANK YOU'ALL VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY, COUNCIL MEMBER PALS. 
          THANKS, MAYOR. 
          UM, EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID, AMEN. 
          UM, COUNCILMAN PERRY, YOUR AFTER GLOWING, UH, I THINK, I THINK CONGRATULATIONS IS, UH, IS MERITED. 
          UH, YOU HAVE, UH, FOUGHT THE GOOD FIGHT. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS A BIG WIN, AND YOU, YOU DESERVE TO TAKE THAT VICTORY LAP. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AS I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT TODAY, IT, I JUST CAN'T STOP, UH, THINKING THAT THERE'S STILL SO MUCH TO FIX, RIGHT? AND THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO DEBATE THAT SANTON ARE GETTING CRUSHED BY INFLATION. 
          THERE'S NO DEBATE THAT, UM, THAT THIS PAIN IS COMPOUNDED BY TAX BILLS THAT THEY CAN'T AFFORD. 
          UM, AND, AND I THINK IF, IF YOU'RE A STUDENT, NOT EVEN A STUDENT, I MEAN, IT'S JUST, IF, IF YOU'RE EVEN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TAXATION AND ECONOMICS, THERE'S NO DEBATE THAT WHATEVER TAXATION SCHEME WE'VE GOT IN TEXAS IN PLACE RIGHT NOW, THAT, THAT, THAT HURTS PEOPLE. 
          UM, AND, AND WHAT BREAKS MY HEART IS THAT THE PAIN ISN'T FELT IN EQUAL MEASURE ACROSS EARNING BRACKETS. 
          BY THAT, I MEAN, UH, WELL, UH, ALL YOU GOTTA LOOK IS, UH, AS YOU KNOW, IS WHAT THE TEXAS COMPTROLLER PUBLISHED IN 2021. 
          UM, AND THEY'VE PROVEN, I MEAN, THE MATH IS THERE, THAT LOW EARNING, UH, WORKING CLASS TEXANS PAY A HIGHER SHARE OF THEIR INCOME ON TAXES THAN MORE AFFLUENT TAXES. 
          THAT'S A REGRESSIVE TAX SCHEME. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, 
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IT'S EVIDENCED BY THIS FOUR TO ONE RATIO BETWEEN THE TOP AND BOTTOM INCOME BRACKETS THAT TEXANS EARNING AN INCOME BELOW 32,000 PAY ALMOST 17% OF THEIR EARNINGS ON TAXES, LOCAL TAXES, TEXAS TAXES, WHILE TEXANS EARNING 157,000 OR ABOVE PAY ONLY 4% OF THEIR TOTAL INCOME ON, ON THESE TAXES. 
          AND SO, UM, I'M, I'M OBVIOUSLY GONNA VOTE YES, BUT YOU'D THINK RIGHT, THAT OUR LEADERS IN AUSTIN WOULD LEAD ON THIS ISSUE, UM, AND THAT THEY'D ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING AUTHENTIC TO HELP THEIR OWN VOTERS. 
          UM, AND YOU KNOW, I I, I'D LIKE TO DAYDREAM SOMETIMES ABOUT WHAT TEXAS WOULD BE IF THOSE LEADERS POURED AS MUCH ENERGY INTO BRINGING RELIEF TO, UM, TO THEIR OWN TAXPAYERS AS MUCH AS THE ENERGY THAT THEY POUR INTO THIS CRITICAL RACE THEORY GARBAGE. 
          AND THESE VERY, VERY SPOOKY, SCARY BOOKS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN OUTTA LIBRARIES. 
          CAN YOU IMAGINE IF THEY ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING ABOUT TAX WITH THE SAME VIGOR AS THEY, UM, YOU KNOW, GO OUT AND SCARE PARENTS AT SCHOOLS? AND SO, YOU KNOW, MY HOPE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LEADERS IN IN AUSTIN DO SOMETHING THAT RESEMBLES LEADERSHIP AS OPPOSED TO WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY'RE DOING. 
          BUT, UM, THANKS, TROY. 
          THANKS, MAYOR. 
          THANKS, COUNCILMAN PERRY. 
          THANKS, COUNCILMAN. 
          COURAGE. 
          GOOD JOB, GUYS. 
          ALRIGHT, UH, THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER PALAI. 
          I BELIEVE THAT IS THE BALANCE OF DISCUSSION. 
          UM, AND, UH, WE HAVE FOUND AN AREA OF AGREEMENT IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT. 
          I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY DRAMA. 
          SO WITHOUT ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, LET'S VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          ALL RIGHT, THE CITY COUNCIL DELIVERED TODAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          WE'LL GO NOW TO ITEM FIVE. 
          ITEM FIVE, AND IS AN ORDINANCE APPOINTING THE REDISTRICTING ADVISORY COMMITTEE'S FINAL PROPOSED PLAN THAT ESTABLISHES NEW CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT BOUNDARIES. 
          ALRIGHT, UM, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, I THINK ERIC, ERIC WAS GONNA OPEN, UH, I'M MAYOR ERIC IS, OKAY. 
          ITEM NUMBER FIVE. 
          ERIC, WE HEARD THE CAPTION REDISTRICT COMMITTEE. 
          ONE SEC. 
          GO. 
          THANKS, MAYOR. 
          UM, SO AS WE KNOW, THE CENSUS OCCURS EVERY 10 YEARS, UM, WHICH IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE, UH, THE RESULTS USUALLY REQUIRE US TO WITHDRAW THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS. 
          AND, AND THIS YEAR, UM, THE PROCESS BY WHICH THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL, UH, PROCEEDED WAS, UM, THE, THE ESTABLISHMENT OF AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          THAT WAS, WHICH WAS THE FIRST TIME I REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT YOU HAD, UH, NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS LAST YEAR ABOUT HOW TO GET ORGANIZED AND, AND MAKE SURE WE WERE INCLUDING THE, THE, UH, COMMUNITY. 
          UM, THE 2020 CENSUS RESULTS INDICATED THAT WE NEEDED TO MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS. 
          AND THE 23 PERSON REDISTRICTING ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT YOU ESTABLISHED, UH, LAST FALL, UM, WAS CHARGED WITH CREATING A MAP THAT APPROPRIATELY BALANCES THOSE 10 COUNCIL DISTRICTS. 
          THE COMMITTEE DID A LOT OF WORK, UM, HAD THEIR FINAL MEETING ON SATURDAY, UM, A LOT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, UH, TO ENSURE THAT WE WERE, UH, ADHERING TO LEGAL STANDARDS, UH, AND REQUIREMENTS ADOPTING GUIDELINES TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. 
          UM, OVER THE LAST EIGHT MONTHS, THE COMMITTEE HAS HELD 15 PUBLIC MEETINGS, UH, TO ENGAGE THE PUBLIC IN THAT PROCESS, UH, AND TO COMPLETE THE, UH, AND TO, UH, YEAH, TO COMPLETE THE, THE PROPOSED PLAN THAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY. 
          SO TODAY, THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE'S CO-CHAIRS, UH, BONNIE PROSSER ELDER, AND DR. 
          ROGELIO SIGNS WILL PRESENT THEIR REVISED FINAL PROPOSED PLAN. 
          AND, UH, CITY ATTORNEY, UM, UM, ANDY, UH, SEGO WILL BEGIN THE TODAY'S PRESENTATION. 
          I DO WANT TO THANK UPFRONT ILEANA FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WHO, UM, DID A GREAT JOB OF STAFFING, BUT ALSO BEING OUR IN-HOUSE EXPERT, UM, AND PROVIDING THE GUIDANCE WE NEEDED AS WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          SO, WITH THAT, ANDY, THANK YOU, ERIC. 
          UH, GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          AND COUNCILMAN BRAVO. 
          I'M, I'M HOPING THAT THIS PRESENTATION IS NOT, NOT AS PAINFUL AS THE LAST ONE. 
          I DIDN'T SAY PAINLESS. 
          I JUST HOPE IT'S LESS PAINFUL THAN THE LAST PRESENTATION. 
          UM, AS 
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ERIC MENTIONED TODAY, UH, COUNCIL, YOU'LL CONSIDER THE FINAL PROPOSED MAP, UH, AS SUBMITTED BY THE REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE. 
          I THINK I MENTIONED BEFORE THAT I'M ALWAYS AMAZED WHEN MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY RAISE THEIR HAND TO EMBARK ON A LONG AND ARDUOUS PROCESS, BUT ONE THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THE CITY. 
          UH, AND BUT UNLIKE OTHER COMMITTEES, UH, THERE'S NO TANGIBLE RESULT AT THE END OF THIS ONE. 
          OTHER THAN CHANGE, THERE'S NO RENOVATED HISTORIC SITE, NO DRAINAGE PROJECT, NO AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT, OR NO, OR NO NEW SENIOR CENTER. 
          INSTEAD, THE END RESULT FOR THIS COMMITTEE WAS CHANGE. 
          AND CHANGE IS ALWAYS DIFFICULT, UH, EVEN WHEN IT MEANS PRESERVING, UH, KEY ESSENTIAL DEMOCRATIC PROCESS LIKE VOTING. 
          I DO WANNA EXTEND MY THANKS TO THE CO-CHAIRS, BONNIE PROSSER, ELDER AND DR. 
          ROGELIO SIGNS, UH, FOR LEADING THE EFFORT AND BEING STEADFAST AND KEEPING THE PROCESS GOING. 
          ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, I ALSO WANTED TO THANK THEM, WHO SPENT LONG, LONG HOURS, UH, MANY TIMES OVER EVENINGS AND WEEKENDS. 
          UH, THEY LISTENED TO COMMUNITY INPUT, THEY DIGESTED TONS OF INFORMATION, UH, ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS, AND TRY TO DEVELOP A MAP THAT MET ALL THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS AND THE GUIDELINES THAT, THAT NOT ONLY THIS COUNCIL, BUT THE COMMITTEE ITSELF ADOPTED TO FACILITATE THE PROCESS. 
          AS I SAID, CHANGE IS DIFFICULT, UH, BUT THE STATUS QUO WAS NOT AN OPTION. 
          WE HAD TO CHANGE TO MEET LEGAL REQUIREMENTS. 
          UH, PEOPLE ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT WHERE, WHAT DISTRICT THEY LIVE IN, UM, WHICH, UH, SOMETIMES LED TO HEATED DISCUSSIONS. 
          UM, BUT THAT WAS TO BE EXPECTED. 
          UH, BUT AGAIN, THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS NEVER LOST THEIR FOCUS. 
          AND EARNESTLY AND DI DILIGENTLY WORKED TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH TODAY'S PROPOSED PLAN. 
          IN ADDITION TO THE HARD WORK OF THE COMMITTEE, WE HAD MANY, MANY PEOPLE, UH, THAT HELPED SUPPORT THE EFFORT. 
          UH, YOU WILL SEE A SLIDE LATER FROM THE CO-CHAIRS THAT ACKNOWLEDGES THE MANY GROUPS THAT SUPPORTED THAT. 
          I DO WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THOUGH, THE LEGAL TEAM THAT PROVIDED SUPPORT. 
          UH, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAD TWO OUTSIDE COUNSEL, UH, WORKING WITH US THIS TIME. 
          UH, WE HAD SID FALK AND SHERRY MCCALL FROM THE BICKER STAFF FIRM. 
          THEY'RE HERE WITH US. 
          UH, THEY PROVIDED SOUND, LEGAL ADVICE, AND, UH, THE MAP DRAWING WAS ESSENTIAL IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO SHOW ON THE SCREEN IN REAL TIME WHAT THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES WOULD DO WITH RESPECT TO THE POPULATION THAT WE WERE TRYING TO EVEN OUT. 
          UH, WE ALSO HAVE TONY DEES AND ANDRE, ANDRE MACIAS FROM WALSH GALLEGOS, WHO ALSO PROVIDED VERY SOUND LEGAL ADVICE. 
          BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THERE WERE A LOCAL LAW FIRM THAT KNEW VERY, VERY WELL, SAN ANTONIO AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND ALL THE AREAS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF PROPOSED CHANGES FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. 
          AS ERIC MENTIONED, WE HAD EL IANA, CASTILLO DALY, WHO WAS THE LEAD ATTORNEY, AND DID MANY, MANY THINGS BESIDES LEADING THE LEGAL EFFORT. 
          AND IN TERMS OF CHOREOGRAPHING THE WHOLE PROCESS, UH, WE HAD, UH, CAM KOW, MARY TORRES D BRODEN, AND MARTHA OLIVAS, WHO ALSO HELPED FROM OUR STAFF. 
          AS YOU KNOW, THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME. 
          AND AS ERIC MENTIONED, THAT WE USED A CITIZEN COMMITTEE TO DEVELOP A MAP. 
          THE, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL WANTED TO INTRODUCE A NEW LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY AND INDEPENDENCE FOR THIS PROCESS THAT MISSION WAS ACCOMPLISHED. 
          UH, BUT LIKE IN ANY OTHER COMPLEX PROCESS, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT. 
          AND, UH, ACTUALLY, ONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAD THE GREAT IDEA OF CATALOGING LESSONS LEARNED, THINGS WE CAN IMPROVE FOR THE NEXT TIME, SO THAT WHEN WE EMBARK ON THIS EFFORT, AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IDEAS, AND WE CAN, WE CAN START AT EVEN A MORE IMPROVED LEVEL. 
          UM, SO WITH THAT, WE'LL GET INTO THE PRESENTATION. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO, JUST A REMINDER OF WHY WE'RE HERE, WHY WE'RE REDISTRICTING. 
          IT'S REQUIRED BY A FEDERAL LAW, THE ONE PERSON ONE VOTE DOCTRINE, UH, WHICH ESSENTIALLY MEANS THAT ONE PERSON VOTING SHOULDN'T HAVE MORE OF AN IMPACT ON THAT ELECTION OUTCOME THAN ANOTHER. 
          AND I'LL USE AN EXTREME EXAMPLE TO HIGHLIGHT THE POINT. 
          LET'S SAY YOU ONLY HAVE A HUNDRED PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN DISTRICT FIVE, AND YOU HAVE A THOUSAND PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN DISTRICT 10. 
          OBVIOUSLY, THE, THE, THE PERSON THEN VOTING IN DISTRICT FIVE WOULD HAVE A MUCH GREATER IMPACT ON THE ELECTION RESULTS VERSUS THE VOTER IN DISTRICT NINE. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT THE ONE PERSON ONE VOTE DOCTRINE MEANS, IS WE WANT TO HAVE CITIZENS HAVE AN EQUAL IMPACT ON THE ELECTION PROCESS. 
          THE GOOD NEWS IS, IN TERMS OF DEVIATION FOR COUNCIL DISTRICTS, WE HAD A BRIGHT LINE WE WERE SHOOTING FOR. 
          THE LAW SAYS THAT THERE CAN'T BE MORE THAN 10% DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MOST POPULOUS DISTRICT AND THE LEAST POPULOUS DISTRICT. 
          UM, THE US THE CURRENT CENSUS TOLD US THAT WE HAD BEYOND THAT 10%, UH, AND THAT THE MOST POPULOUS DISTRICT WAS EIGHT, THE LEAST POPULOUS WAS FIVE. 
          AND SO WE HAD TO EMBARK ON CHANGE. 
          UM, WE 
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NEED TO, UH, BRING THOSE BACK SO THAT WE HAVE LEGAL COMPLIANCE BESIDE THE 10%. 
          WE ALSO HAD OTHER LEGAL PR PRINCIPLES WE HAD TO COMPLY WITH. 
          UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD TO ENSURE THAT WE WEREN'T ADVERSELY, UH, DIMINISHING THE, THE VOTING POWER OF MINORITIES. 
          UH, SO WE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, THE POPULATION OF MINORITIES AND VOTING SO THAT WE WEREN'T, UH, RUNNING THE FALL OF THAT. 
          UH, UNFORTUNATELY, UNLIKE THE 10%, THAT'S MORE OF A ART RATHER THAN A BRIGHT LINE. 
          BUT WE, I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT, UH, THE MAP THAT YOU'LL BE PRESENTED TODAY MEETS THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS. 
          UM, THE CITY COUNCIL APPOINTED A 23 MEMBER REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE, UH, TO COME UP WITH A PLAN. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          AND AGAIN, WE'D WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE BY NAME, MAYBE NOT MENTION ALL OF 'EM, BUT ACKNOWLEDGE AT LEAST HAVE A SLIDE WITH ALL THE NAMES OF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT PARTICIPATED IN THIS, THAT WERE APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR AND BY THE COUNCIL. 
          UH, THERE WERE TWO CO-CHAIRS, AS I MENTIONED, BONNIE PROSSER, ELDER DR. 
          ROGELIO SIGNS. 
          UH, WE HAD TWO MEMBERS FROM EACH DISTRICT, UH, AND THEN WE HAD A, ANOTHER AT LARGE MAYOR, UH, UH, APPOINTEE FROM THE MAYOR. 
          UH, SO THESE ARE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT DID ALL THE HEAVY LIFTING. 
          AND, UH, AGAIN, I DO EXTEND MY APPRECIATION FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT THEY DID, UH, TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. 
          SO, WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO THE CO-CHAIRS, UH, BONNIE PROSSER, ELDER AND DR. 
          ROGELIO SIGNS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO BEFORE WE GET STARTED, UM, I GUESS IT'S OBVIOUS. 
          I'M BONNIE PROSSER, ELDER CO-CHAIR OF THE REDISTRICTING ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          AND DRS, I'LL ALLOW HIM TO INTRODUCE HIMSELF WHEN HE TAKES THE MICROPHONE. 
          BUT IF THERE ARE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMITTEE THAT ARE HERE, COULD YOU PLEASE STAND? I THINK A FEW OF THEM CAME OUT. 
          SO IT'S ALREADY BEEN NOTED THAT IT WAS A, A LOT OF, UH, WORK, A LOT OF MEETINGS, AND, AND THE PEOPLE WHO YOU SEE ON THIS LIST WERE THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT VOLUNTEERED TO UNDERTAKE THIS EFFORT WITH US. 
          SO THE REDISTRICT REDISTRICTING ADVISORY COMMITTEE WAS TASKED WITH CREATING MAPS THAT WOULD DEVELOP THE BALANCE, UM, WITHIN THE DISTRICTS, AND CREATE THAT IDEAL SIZE OF 148,494 PERSONS IN EACH INDIVIDUAL DISTRICT. 
          WHEN WE STARTED THIS, AS NOTED, THE POPULATION, UM, IN THE LARGEST, LARGEST DISTRICT WAS 34.63% GREATER THAN THE POPULATION IN THE SMALLEST DISTRICT. 
          UH, DISTRICT EIGHT WAS 18% ABOVE THE IDEAL SIZE, AND DISTRICT FIVE WAS 16% BELOW THE IDEAL SIZE. 
          WHEN WE, UH, WRAP THIS UP, UH, DISTRICT EIGHT IS NOW 5% UNDER THE IDEAL SIZE. 
          AND, UH, DISTRICT FIVE IS JUST AT 5% BELOW THE IDEAL SIZE. 
          I'M SORRY, DISTRICT EIGHT IS ABOVE A LITTLE BIT LITTLE AT 5% ABOVE THE IDEAL SIZE. 
          SO WE WERE WORKING TO BRING THOSE NUMBERS DOWN, AND WITH A LOT OF HARD WORK, UM, AND DISCUSSION AND, AND COMMUNITY INPUT, WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          THE REDISTRICTING CRITERIA, AND THAT IS REALLY THE, UM, THE GUIDELINES AND THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THE REDISTRICTING ADVISORY COMMITTEE WERE OPERATING UNDER. 
          STARTING WITH THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS, UM, WE WERE TASKED WITH MAKING THE DISTRICT'S RELATIVELY EQUAL IN POPULATION. 
          THAT 143 PLUS THOUSAND NUMBER THAT YOU HEARD EARLIER, UM, THAT THE DISTRICTS WOULD BE COMPACT AND CONTIGUOUS, THAT WE WOULD, TO THE EXTENT THAT WE COULD, TO THE EXTENT, EXTENT, REASONABLE AND PRACTICABLE, UH, USE WHOLE VOTING PRECINCTS WHEN WE WERE CREATING, UH, THE MAPS. 
          THOSE ARE THE VOTER, UM, TABULATION DISTRICTS. 
          AND ANY CONSIDERATION OF RACE, UM, WOULD BE UTILIZED TO COMPLY WITH THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT, AND IT WOULD BE, UH, NARROWLY TAILORED IF WE WERE UTILIZING, UH, RACE AND RACE CONSIDERATIONS IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE MAPS. 
          IN ADDITION 
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TO THAT, THE PRIORITY CONSIDERATIONS OVERALL WERE TO MAINTAIN THOSE COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST WITHIN THE VOTING DISTRICTS AND TO MAINTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS AND KEEP THEM CONNECTED WHERE WE WOULD, UH, AND WHERE WE COULD. 
          UM, THERE ARE SOME SPLIT NEIGHBORHOODS THAT, THAT REMAIN. 
          THERE WERE SPLIT NEIGHBORHOODS WHEN WE WENT INTO THIS PROCESS, BUT WE WERE RECOGNIZING THAT AND THE IMPORTANCE OF NEIGHBORHOODS, AND AGAIN, THE IMPORTANCE OF THE COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST, UH, TO LOOK AT THE DISTRICTS AS THEY EXISTED. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE, THE FIRST THING TO DO IS TO DO NO HARM. 
          WE WEREN'T TRYING TO BE DISRUPTIVE. 
          WE WERE TRYING TO CREATE, UH, THE BALANCE THAT IS REQUIRED THROUGH THIS EXERCISE, AND, AND ALSO TO CONSIDER, UH, EASILY IDENTIFIABLE GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES, UH, STREETS, RIVERS, UM, OTHER AREAS WHERE YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE WHERE THERE'S A DEFINITION BETWEEN THE MAPS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND CONSIDERATION OF THE DISTRICTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND OTHER COMMUNITY, UH, ASSETS WITHIN THE DISTRICTS. 
          AS THEY STARTED WITH THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENTS, WE'RE ALSO, UH, RECOGNIZING AND CONSIDERING THE RESIDENTS OF THE INCUMBENTS THAT ARE IN OFFICE AS THEY SIT. 
          UH, SO TO GET TO THAT PROCESS, THE ENGAGEMENT, UH, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS THAT WE UTILIZED AS WE WERE MEETING TO SIT AND TALK ABOUT THESE MAPS AND HOW WE WERE GOING TO, UM, CREATE NEW ALIGNMENTS WITHIN THE DISTRICTS. 
          AS YOU HEARD, THERE WERE 15, UM, PUBLIC MEETINGS FROM NOVEMBER TO JUNE. 
          THEY WERE ALL STREAMED ON YOUTUBE, RECORDED AND POSTED TO ESSAY SPEAK UP. 
          IF YOU DIDN'T MAKE THE MEETING, YOU COULD ALWAYS GO BACK AND LOOK AT A MEETING. 
          WE KNOW A NUMBER OF PEOPLE DID GO BACK AND LOOK AT SOME OF THE MEETINGS AFTER THEY WERE OVER. 
          EVERY ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UM, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO COME IN AND, AND SPEAK AND LET THEIR VOICES BE HEARD. 
          I CAN TELL YOU THAT EVERY ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS, WE DID HAVE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY COME TO SPEAK AND TO BE HEARD, AND TO LET THEIR VOICES, LET THEIR VOICES BE HEARD, AND TO TELL THIS COMMITTEE WHAT, UH, THEY WANTED AND WHAT THEIR NEEDS AND WHAT THEIR COMMUNITY INTERESTS WERE. 
          WE HAD 340 REGISTERED ATTENDEES WITH 155 PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          WE HAD 145 WRITTEN COMMENTS THAT WERE READ TO THE COMMITTEE, UM, AND ANY PUBLIC WHO WERE ATTENDING THE MEETINGS. 
          THAT WOULD INCLUDE, UH, THE COMMENTS THAT CAME IN THROUGH SA SPEAK UP 3 1 1, AND EMAILS THAT WERE SENT THROUGH, UM, THE SA SPEAKUP@SA.GOV. 
          SO WE DID HAVE OTHER, IF YOU COULD NOT MAKE THE MEETING, UM, YOU COULD SEND AN EMAIL, YOU COULD, YOU COULD, UM, COMMUNICATE TO US IN OTHER WAYS. 
          SO WE TRIED TO PROVIDE OTHER OUTLETS FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT, WHO DID NOT WANT TO PHYSICALLY COME AND SIT AT A MEETING, ESPECIALLY DURING THIS PERIOD WITH C O V I D, UH, STILL WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          WE WANTED TO MAKE THOSE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE. 
          AND WE DID, WE DID THAT. 
          UM, THERE WERE ALSO 29 COMMUNITY MEETINGS ACROSS SAN ANTONIO, WITHIN THE DISTRICTS. 
          AND, AND I WANT TO SAY OUT LOUD THAT ANYTIME THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR A MEETING IN A COMMUNITY BY A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION IN PERSON VIA ZOOM, UH, CITY STAFF NEVER SAID NO. 
          UH, THERE WERE THE, SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS WERE ATTENDED BY MEMBERS OF THE, UH, REDISTRICTING ADVISORY COMMITTEE, BUT STAFF SUPPORT WAS THERE TO PROVIDE THE MAPS, TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS, AND TO ALLOW THOSE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT REQUESTED MEETINGS FOR THEIR, AGAIN, FOR THEIR, THERE WAS REALLY NO GROUP TWO LARGE OR TOO SMALL. 
          I DID ASK THAT QUESTION. 
          I SAID, IS THERE A MINIMUM NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT YOU ALL WILL COME OUT TO MEET WITH? AND THE RESPONSE THAT I RECEIVED FROM CITY STAFF WAS, NO. 
          IF SOMEONE REQUESTED A MEETING AND THEY WANTED TO HEAR, UH, ABOUT THIS PROCESS AND GET THIS INFORMATION, THAT THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD COME. 
          THE INFORMATION WAS ALSO PUT AT RESOURCE LIBRARIES SO THAT, UH, YOU COULD SEE THE MAPS AND, AND TOUCH THEM IF YOU DID NOT HAVE, UH, DIGITAL OPPORTUNITIES, IF THERE WAS A, 
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AN ISSUE WITH BEING ABLE TO, UH, ACCESS THE MAPS ELECTRONICALLY, THERE WERE HARD COPIES PLACED WITHIN THE COMMUNITIES SO THAT YOU COULD GO OUT AND SEE AND TOUCH AND FEEL THOSE YOURSELF. 
          UH, EVERY COMMENT MADE AT THE, AT THOSE MEETINGS, EITHER BY PERSONS IN PERSON, OR THOSE THAT WERE READ ALOUD, WERE HEARD BY THIS COMMITTEE. 
          WE HEARD THE VOICES. 
          WE DID LISTEN. 
          UM, THE MAP DOES NOT REFLECT THE DESIRES OF THE OUTCOME FROM EVERY PERSON THAT WAS HEARD WHEN WE STARTED THIS. 
          WE SAID THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE HARD, AND THAT THERE WERE GOING TO BE DESIRES AND WISHES, AND WE KNEW THAT THERE WOULD BE CHANGE THAT WAS INEVITABLE. 
          AND CHANGE IS HARD, AND YOU CANNOT MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY BECAUSE THERE ARE MOVES AND ADJUSTMENTS THAT HAD TO BE MADE THAT WEREN'T GOING TO BE, UM, IN LINE WITH EVERY COMMENT, EVERY WISH, AND EVERY DESIRE. 
          WE HEARD THOSE COMMENTS, AND WE MADE AN EFFORT TO MAKE THE ADJUSTMENTS WHERE WE COULD STILL MAKING THE EFFORT TO CREATE THAT MAP THAT WAS BALANCED AND IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CRITERIA THAT WAS REQUIRED. 
          SO THIS MAP THAT YOU WILL SEE IN A MOMENT WHAT IT IS, IT IS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THIS REDISTRICTING ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          IT IS BALANCED AND IN LINE WITH THE PRE-ESTABLISHED CRITERIA THAT THIS COUNCIL AND THIS COMMITTEE ADOPTED AND AGREED UPON. 
          AND IT WILL BE A GREAT BENEFIT TO THE SAN ANTONIO COMMUNITY AND TO THE CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY FOR YEARS, UM, TO COME. 
          SO THIS MAP, WHICH IS THE MAP, I KNOW IT'S NOT, YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT AS WELL AS THE, THE COPIES THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU. 
          BUT THIS IS THE FINAL PROPOSED MAP WITH ALL OF THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT ARE THE OUTCOME OF ALL OF THE WORK THAT WAS DONE, UM, BY THIS HARDWORKING REDISTRICTING ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          AND WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO DR. 
          S TO COMPLETE THIS PRESENTATION. 
          SO, GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND, UH, AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          UH, AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON THE, ON THIS, UH, VERY IMPORTANT, UH, PROJECT. 
          AND YOU SEE THE MAP HERE. 
          SO, UH, YOU SEE THE, THE 10 DISTRICTS AND HOW THEY, UH, THE, THE SHAPES THAT THEY'RE IN AND SO FORTH, THE OUTCOME, AND I STRESS AGAIN, THAT THIS COMES AS A UNANIMOUS WITH UNANIMOUS SUPPORT FROM, UH, FROM OUR ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          UH, AND AGAIN, I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THE, THE, THE, UM, POINTS HERE AND THE, THE SHAPE. 
          BUT YOU CAN SEE, AND YOU HAVE, UH, THE COUNCIL, YOU HAVE YOUR, AND MAYOR, YOU HAVE THE, THE MAPS THAT YOU CAN SEE, UH, CLEARLY. 
          I'LL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF, UH, THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE DIFFERENT, UH, UM, UH, DISTRICTS. 
          AND WE CAN SEE THE 10 COUNCIL DISTRICTS. 
          AND AS WE POINTED OUT, THEN, THE, UH, THE EVEN SHARE ACROSS THE, THE 10 WAS 143,494. 
          UH, AND BASED UPON THE TOTAL POPULATION COUNTED IN THE 2020 CENSUS, UH, YOU CAN SEE THERE, THE, IN EACH OF THE DISTRICTS, WE HAVE THE NUMBER OF PERSONS THAT RIGHT NOW, UH, COMPRISE EACH OF THE, THE DISTRICTS. 
          UH, THE THIRD COLUMN PROVIDES THE IDEAL SIZE, AGAIN, THAT 1 43, UH, 4, 9, 4. 
          AND THEN YOU HAVE THE DEVIATION THEN, WHICH IS THE, UH, THE PERCENTAGE, UH, DEVIATION FROM, FROM THE IDEAL. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THEN THAT, UH, THAT WE HAVE, UM, DISTRICT, UH, FIVE IS THE, UH, SMALLEST, UM, DISTRICT WITH 136,000, UH, 456, UH, INDIVIDUALS. 
          AND THIS IS, UH, NEGATIVE 4.9%. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS, UH, CLOSE TO 5% BELOW THE, UH, THE IDEAL SIZE. 
          ON THE OTHER HAND, DISTRICT EIGHT IS THE MOST POPULOUS WITH 149,143. 
          UH, AND THAT FALLS 3.94% ABOVE THE, UH, THE IDEAL SIZE. 
          AND IF YOU TAKE THE ABSOLUTE, UH, NUMBERS BETWEEN THAT, UH, THE SMALLEST, UH, THE, UH, THE 4.90, AND THEN ADD THAT TO THE, UH, UH, DISTRICT EIGHT, THE 3.94, THAT PROVIDES YOU THAT, UH, OVERALL DEVIATION OF 8.84%. 
          AND WE CAN SEE THAT IT FALLS WITH, UH, WITHIN AND LOWER THAN THE 10%, UH, DEVIATION, UH, REQUIREMENT. 
          UH, JUST TO GO TO THE OTHER COLUMNS, WHAT WE HAVE IS IN, UH, THE, UH, THE PERCENTAGE OF EACH OF THE POPULATION OF EACH, UH, DISTRICT THAT ARE LATINO, HISPANIC, UH, THAT ARE NON-HISPANIC WHITES, THAT ARE NON-HISPANIC BLACKS, THAT ARE NON-HISPANIC ASIANS, AND THEN THE NON-HISPANIC OTHER POPULATION. 
          AND THERE YOU CAN SEE THE, THE DISTRIBUTION, UH, FOR EACH OF THE, UH, THE DISTRICTS. 
          AND YOU 
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CAN SEE THE REPRESENTATION OF THE LATINO POPULATION AS WELL AS THE AFRICAN AMERICAN POPULATION. 
          AND IN PARTICULAR IN DISTRICT TWO, YOU CAN SEE THAT ABOUT 19.7% OF THE, UM, OF, UH, DISTRICT TWO IS AFRICAN AMERICAN. 
          UH, AND THE, UH, CITY ATTORNEY AS WELL AS THE BIGGER STAFF ATTORNEYS HAVE ALSO EXAMINED, UH, THESE DATA TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE, THAT THE CHANGES ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE, UH, WITH THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT. 
          UH, SO THAT PROVIDES YOU AN OVER AN OVERALL, UH, DEMOGRAPHIC OVERVIEW OF THESE, UH, OF THESE, UH, DISTRICTS. 
          UM, AND THERE WERE SOME CHANGES THAT TOOK PLACE. 
          SO HERE WE HIGHLIGHT THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, MOVEMENT THAT TOOK PLACE. 
          UH, WE'LL GO THROUGH THEM PRETTY QUICKLY. 
          IN DISTRICT ONE, WE SAT, WE HAVE MAVERICK FOR, FROM EXAMPLE, THAT CAME, UH, FROM, UH, DISTRICT SEVEN. 
          WE ALSO HAVE, UH, VANCE JACKSON THAT CAME FROM DISTRICTS EIGHT AND NINE. 
          AND THAT CONTINUES TO BE A SPLIT BETWEEN, UH, DISTRICTS ONE AND EIGHT. 
          UH, GREATER HARMONY HILLS CAME, UH, FROM, UH, DISTRICT NINE, AND THAT NOW, THE, THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOW WHOLLY, UH, COMPLETELY IN DISTRICT ONE. 
          UH, WE HAD NO CHANGES IN DISTRICTS TWO AND DISTRICTS THREE. 
          IN DISTRICT FOUR, WE HAD, UH, EL SANDRO COMING IN FROM, UH, DISTRICT SIX. 
          IN DISTRICT FIVE, WE HAD, UH, COLLINS GARDEN FROM COMING IN FROM DISTRICT ONE. 
          AND IT IS NOW, UH, COMPLETELY IN DISTRICT FIVE. 
          AND THEN ALSO IN DISTRICT FIVE, WE HAVE LOS CARDENAS, WHICH CAME FROM DISTRICT SIX. 
          AND THIS IS ONE THAT IS SPLIT BETWEEN, UH, THAT, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD IS SPLIT BETWEEN FIVE AND SIX. 
          AND THERE WAS ALSO THE WEST END HOPE IN ACTION THAT CAME FROM DISTRICT ONE. 
          AND THAT CONTINUES TO BE SPLIT, UH, BETWEEN DISTRICTS. 
          UH, ONE AND, UH, AND FIVE. 
          THEN, UH, CONTINUING ALONG, WE HAVE, UH, IN DISTRICT SEVEN, UH, THESE COME FROM, UH, DISTRICT EIGHT, THE NEIGHBORHOODS, CAMINO BANDERA, VERDE HILLS, SIERRA VISTA, OAK BLUFF, PHIL, UH, UH, FIELDSTONE, UH, THE, UM, THE HILLS OF, UH, RIVER MIST, DREAM HILL ESTATES, UH, AND BRAUN OAKS. 
          AND ONE THING WITH BRAUN OAKS IS THAT NOW IT IS COMPLETELY IN DISTRICT SEVEN. 
          UH, AND THEN IN DISTRICT NINE, THEN WE HAVE A LAWRENCE CREEK, UH, PRESERVATION ASSOCIATION THAT COMES IN FROM DISTRICT 10. 
          AND AGAIN, IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOW COMPLETELY IN DISTRICT, UH, DISTRICT NINE. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE SUPPORT. 
          THERE WERE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT, OBVIOUSLY THE, OUR 23 MEMBER COMMITTEE WORK DILIGENTLY AND LONG, LONG HOURS, UH, OVER THE COURSE OF, UH, UH, SEVEN OR EIGHT MONTHS. 
          UH, AND, UH, BUT WE ALSO HAVE, UH, 3 1 1, FOR EXAMPLE, BUILDING AN EQUIPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. 
          AND AGAIN, UH, MY CO-CHAIR AND I, BONNIE AND I, WE'D LIKE TO, UH, PARTICULARLY THANK ELIANA CASTILLO DAVIS. 
          SHE WAS, UH, JUST, UH, THE SUPPORT THAT SHE OFFERED US AS, UH, CO-CHAIRS AS WELL AS THE, UH, THE COMPLETE, UH, UM, UH, ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, IS, UH, IS IMMENSE. 
          UH, THERE WAS A COMMUNICATIONS AND ENGAGEMENT THAT TOOK PLACE IN INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY SERVICES, LIBRARIES AROUND THE COMMUNITY, UH, UH, THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES, THE SENIOR CITIZENS CENTER, AS WELL AS A SENIOR NUTRITION PROGRAM PLANNING DEPARTMENT, T V S A. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER SUPPORT, OF COURSE, WE HAD A TREMENDOUS SUPPORT WITH RESPECT TO AV SUPPORT AS WE HAD THE, UH, UH, PARTICULARLY AS WE HAD THE, UH, MAP DRAWING SESSIONS, UH, THE CATERERS, UH, WE WERE FED ALSO, UH, THOSE, UH, EVENING MEETINGS, UH, AND THE SPANISH AND, UH, A S N THE BICKER STAFF AND, UH, UH, HEATH, UH, DELGADO ACOSTA ATTORNEYS AND MAPPERS, AND THE WONDERFUL WORK THAT THEY DID, UH, AT ALL TIMES THAT THEY WERE AVAILABLE WITH COMMITTEE MEMBERS AS THEY WERE MEETING, UH, TOGETHER TO TRY TO SETTLE, UH, DISAGREEMENTS, UH, THAT THE, THAT THEY HAD. 
          AND THEN, UH, WITH THE, UH, WALSH, UH, GALLEGOS, RENO, KYLE ROBINSON, UH, ATTORNEYS AND SUPPORT STAFF, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING MORE. 
          NO, I, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT THIS WAS A TREMENDOUS TEAM EFFORT. 
          YES, WE HAD THE REDISTRICTING REDISTRICTING ADVISORY COMMITTEE, BUT THE NAMES AND THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU SEE ON THE SLIDE, WITHOUT THEM AND THE COLLECTIVE EFFORT, COLLABORATION AND COORDINATION, WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BRING TO YOU THE MAP THAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY. 
          SO IT, IT WAS A TEAM THAT, THAT DID ALL OF THIS AND GOT US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. 
          UM, I THINK TRANSITIONING 
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TO THE PUBLIC OUTREACH, I'M GONNA TRANSITION THIS BACK OVER TO CITY STAFF AS WE PRESENT THIS MAP TO YOU WITH THE HOPES THAT IT WILL BE APPROVED. 
          UM, THE NEXT STEP, OF COURSE, WILL BE TO COMMUNICATE ALL OF THIS TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND SO SINCE THAT WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE CITY STAFF, WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW THEM TO MAKE THAT PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION. 
          GOOD MORNING, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, ELIA CASTILLO DALY. 
          UH, ASSUMING THAT THIS MAP IS PASSED AND BECOMES OUR NEW REDISTRICTING BOUNDARIES, WE WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, WHAT WE HAD IN MIND FOR OUTREACH NOW TO REACH OUT TO THOSE WHO ARE IMPACTED BY THE LINE CHANGING. 
          UM, THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS WAS MENTIONED THAT WE USED SA SPEAK UP, SA BEAR COUNT ME IN. 
          AS A REMINDER, SA BEAR COUNT ME IN WAS USED EVEN FOR THE 2020 CENSUS. 
          IT WAS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT WITH THE COUNTY. 
          WE CONTINUE TO USE THAT WEBSITE FOR REDISTRICTING 'CAUSE IT WAS THE NATURAL PROGRESSION OF THE CENSUS. 
          UM, WE WILL CONTINUE TO USE SA BEAR, COUNT ME IN. 
          IN FACT, THE AMAZING COMMUNICATIONS AND ENGAGEMENT TEAM IS READY TO SHIFT THAT WEBSITE, TO HAVE THESE MAPS AND TO HAVE A LINK TO THE VERY POPULAR FIND MY COUNCIL MEMBER SITE THAT WE'RE ALL VERY FAMILIAR WITH. 
          UM, AND WE'VE WORKED WITH I T S D G I S, UM, AND, UH, 3 1 1 TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMEBODY POPULATE, PUT IN THEIR ADDRESS INTO THE FIND MY COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          AND THERE WILL BE A FIELD THAT SAYS, SO IT'S, IT'LL TELL YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU KNOW, MARIO BRAVO, A LINK TO HIS THING, AND THEN ALSO THEN REDISTRICTING, YES OR NO. 
          IF IT SAYS YES, THEN IT'LL TELL ME I'M NOW IN DISTRICT FIVE OR WHEREVER I MAY BE. 
          UH, SO WE WILL HAVE THOSE KEY WEBSITES, UH, UH, HELPING US IN, SUPPORTING US, AND COMMUNICATING TO PEOPLE WHO ARE, UH, POTENTIALLY IMPACTED BY THE, THE LINE SHIFTS. 
          WE'LL ALSO CONDUCT DIRECT OUTREACH TO THE HOUSEHOLDS THAT WILL BE IMPACTED BY THE BOUNDARY CHANGES. 
          UH, WE'LL BE DIRECTING THEM TO 3 1 1. 
          IF THEY CANNOT GET TO SA BEAR, COUNT ME IN OR FIND MY COUNCIL MEMBER, THEN THEY WILL, UH, RECEIVE A MAILER TO THEIR HOME. 
          I SHOULD SAY THAT, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. 
          THEY'LL RECEIVE A, A TO THEIR HOME, SOMETHING THAT HAS A QR CODE, HAS THE ADDRESS, OR IT TELLS 'EM THEY CAN CALL 3 1 1, LETS THEM KNOW THAT THEY WERE IMPACTED BY REDISTRICTING. 
          IT GIVES THEM A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT REDISTRICTING IS, UM, IF THEY WERE NOT, YOU KNOW, LIVING AND BREATHING IT, LIKE SOME OF US IN THE ROOM HAVE BEEN FOR, FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW. 
          UM, AND THERE, IF I DIDN'T MENTION THE QR CODE, THERE WILL ALSO BE A QR CODE TO DIRECT THEM TO, UH, FIND MY COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, SO THEY CAN ENTER THEIR ADDRESS. 
          THERE WILL BE A SECOND SET OF MAILERS THAT WILL GO AHEAD OF THE MAY, 2023 ELECTION. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, REMINDING 'EM. 
          SO IN BETWEEN THAT TIME, I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA GET THEIR VOTER REGISTRATION CARD, UH, THAT WILL CLUE THEM IN AS WELL. 
          UH, WE'LL HAVE MAPS, UH, THESE BEAUTIFUL MAPS AT THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, DILIGENTLY WORKED ON AND CREATED. 
          WE HAVE ONE OUT HERE, UM, AT THE ENTRANCE IF YOU WANNA SEE IT. 
          IT'S A FOAM BOARD, UH, THREE FOOT BY FOUR FOOT MAP. 
          WE WILL HAVE THESE MAPS STANDING IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS. 
          WE'LL CONTINUE TO USE OUR RESOURCE LIBRARIES, THE SEVEN RESOURCE LIBRARIES IDENTIFIED, UH, THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. 
          BUT WE'VE, WE'VE ALSO IDENTIFIED APPROXIMATELY, UH, 20 PLUS, UH, LOCATIONS THAT ARE NEAR THESE AREAS. 
          SO THE ONE I I, I, I ADDED TO THE SLIDE DECK, UH, TO ILLUSTRATE THIS WAS THE FRANK GARRETT MULTI, UH, SERVICE CENTER THAT IS NEAR, UH, I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY WITHIN WEST END HOPE IN ACTION. 
          AND SO THERE ARE SOME BOUNDARY SHIFTS THERE. 
          UM, AND SO IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE TO PUT A PHONE BOARD MAP THERE SO PEOPLE CAN SEE IT WHEN THEY WALK IN AND OUT, ESPECIALLY WITH, UH, SUMMER RECREATION PROGRAMS. SO THERE'LL BE VARIOUS SENIOR CENTERS, COMMUNITY CENTERS, UH, IDENTIFIED TO HAVE THESE PHYSICAL MAPS AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          WE'LL CONDUCT DIRECT OUTREACH TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          AND WHEN I SAY WE, I, THIS IS COMMUNICATIONS AND ENGAGEMENT, I SHOULD GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE. 
          UH, OUTREACH TO COMMUNITY, UH, TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS BY PHONE CALLS. 
          AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE US SPEAKER OPPORTUNITIES. 
          AGAIN, IF ANY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WANTS TO CALL, UH, WE WILL SAY YES, AND WE WILL GO OUT THERE AND LET THEM KNOW, UH, WHAT REDISTRICTING WAS, HOW IT HAPPENED, AND THEN HOW TO FIND THEIR INFORMATION. 
          UH, AND THEN LIKEWISE, CONTINUE TO USE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES, UH, DEPARTMENT, DEPARTMENT MONTHLY NEWSLETTER. 
          UH, AND FINALLY, UH, WE WILL CONTINUE USE OF SOCIAL MEDIA, AND WE'LL START DOING, UH, COMMUNICATIONS AND ENGAGEMENT. 
          WE'LL START CREATING, UH, PSAS FOR THE PROCESS. 
          WITH THAT, I, WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. 
          ANDY, THAT, THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION. 
          MARY? YES. 
          AND WE'RE, WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UH, BEFORE WE DO GET INTO, UH, DISCUSSION, LET ME BRING UP, UH, WE HAVE ONE CITIZEN SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM FIVE, UH, CASEY MADRID. 
          GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          MY NAME IS CASEY MADRID, AND I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE SAN ANTONIO CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CO-CHAIRS OF THE REDISTRICTING ADVISORY COMMITTEE, BONNIE PROSSER, 
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ELDER, AND DR. 
          ROGELIO SIGNS, AS WELL AS ALL COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR THEIR DEDICATION, HARD WORK, AND PACE PATIENTS. 
          THROUGH THIS PROCESS, THE SAN ANTONIO CHAMBER IS PLEASED TO REPRESENT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, WHICH HAS EXISTED AS A UNIFIED ENTITY FOR MANY YEARS. 
          WE APPLAUD THE MEMBERS OF THE REDISTRICTING ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR RECOMMENDING A FINAL MAP THAT IS WELL CONSIDERED, THAT BALANCED AND KEEPS THE BUSINESS DISTRICT INTACT. 
          KEEPING THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT WHOLE WILL SUPPORT EFFORTS FOR CONTINUED ECONOMIC RECOVERY AND THE SUCCESS OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AS WE CONTINUE COVID CITYWIDE RECOVERY EFFORTS, WE ASK THAT YOU PLEASE TAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS YOU APPOINTED AND VOTE IN SUPPORT OF KEEPING THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT WHOLE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, MS. MADRID. 
          UH, SO TO START OUR DISCUSSION, LET ME ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM FIVE. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE'S A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA ROCHA GARCIA, SECOND BY . 
          UH, LEMME JUST START BY THANKING OUR CO-CHAIRS. 
          I KNOW IT TOOK A LITTLE CONVINCING. 
          I THOUGHT, UH, THIS IS NO BIG DEAL. 
          UM, BE A, AN INTERESTING OPPORTUNITY, UH, AND TO BE CO-CHAIRED BY TWO, UH, VERY WELL QUALIFIED INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE E EXPERTISE IN THE AREAS THAT WILL COMPLEMENT THIS PROCESS. 
          UM, DR. 
          SES, BONNIE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, FOR YOUR ENGAGEMENT IN THIS. 
          I THINK AS WE MOVED ALONG, UH, WE ALL DISCOVERED HOW, UH, DIFFICULT, CHALLENGING IT WILL BE. 
          AND, UM, WE VERY MUCH RESPECT THE FACT THAT YOU STAYED WITH IT THE WHOLE TIME. 
          UH, CONDUCTED THOSE MEETINGS PROFESSIONALLY, HEARD ALL THE INPUT, ASKED FOR MORE INPUT, ASKED FOR CONTINUED INPUT, AND ULTIMATELY ARRIVED AT A MAP THAT I THINK REPRESENTS, UH, ALL THE VOICES THAT WERE AT THE TABLE. 
          UH, IT WAS MY HOPE, MY DESIRE, THAT WE COULD START A PROCESS FOR REDISTRICTING, WHICH INVARIABLY BECOMES POLITICAL, AND, UH, ESPECIALLY IN POLITICAL LEVELS ABOVE US, BECOMES VERY CONTROVERSIAL. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE GET INTO ISSUES OF GERRYMANDERING THAT'S NOT SO MUCH PRESENT AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, ESPECIALLY AT CITY COUNCIL. 
          UH, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEMONSTRATE SOME BEST PRACTICES. 
          SO I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT MY COLLEAGUES EMBARKED ON THIS, UH, TO CREATE A COMMISSION, A COMMITTEE OF CITIES, CITIZEN MEMBERS WHO WOULD REMOVE THE PROCESS OF MAPMAKING FROM THE COUNCIL DAIS, AND FROM THE OFFICES OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE ELECTED OFFICIALS THEMSELVES, DRAWING OUR OWN PRECINCT BOUNDARIES, WHICH INHERENTLY HAS CONFLICT. 
          UH, ULTIMATELY THOUGH, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO REMOVE THIS FROM A POLITICAL PROCESS, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE TO VOTE TO RATIFY THESE MAPS. 
          AND I'M ASKING FOR A STRAIGHT UP OR DOWN VOTE TODAY ON THE MAPS THAT WERE PRESENTED. 
          UM, BUT I THINK WE ALL DID OUR BEST, UH, TO DO THAT. 
          I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FEEDBACK, THE INPUT ON HOW TO IMPROVE THE PROCESS. 
          AND I'M, I'M SURE WE CAN ALL THINK OF WAYS IMMEDIATELY TO DO THAT. 
          UH, I'VE DISCUSSED MAYBE A UNIFORM RUBRIC BY WHICH WE SELECT COMMITTEE MEMBERS. 
          UM, ALSO, UH, WORKING TO IMPROVE THE PUBLIC OUTREACH PROCESS, I THINK IS ALWAYS A WORK IN PROGRESS. 
          SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE IT BETTER, BUT I THINK THIS IS A GREAT FIRST STEP, AND I HAVE GREAT CONFIDENCE THAT THIS IS A MAP THAT WILL BEST REPRESENT OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UM, LET ME ALSO SAY, ANDY, HOW ABOUT WE DO THIS AGAIN IN A COUPLE OF YEARS? ONLY IF WE HAVE THE SAME CO-CHAIRS. 
          OKAY. 
          MAYOR , NOT SURE, UH, WE CAN COAX THEM INTO THAT, BUT IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING, I'M SURE THEY WOULD, UH, DO A FANTASTIC JOB, ELIANA, GREAT JOB. 
          BUT SERIOUSLY, WE MIGHT BE BACK AT THIS AGAIN IN A COUPLE YEARS IF, UH, WE DO CHOOSE IF THE VOTERS CHOOSE TO AMEND THE CHARTER TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF DISTRICTS. 
          SO THIS IS A FIRST, FIRST RUN AT IT, AND I THINK WE ALL DID A GREAT JOB. 
          UH, OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          I DO WANNA SAY THANK YOU ALSO TO SHELLY POTTER, WHO WAS MY AT LARGE APPOINTEE AS WELL. 
          UM, LAST THING I WANNA SAY, ELIANA, THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION AND FRAMEWORK FOR THE PUBLIC OUTREACH PROCESS GOING FORWARD. 
          UH, I DON'T KNOW WHO CAME UP WITH THAT, IF THAT WAS A, UH, A OFFICE WIDE EFFORT, OR THAT WAS ALL COMMUNICATIONS STAFF. 
          UH, ALANA, I SEE YOU IN THE BACK. 
          THAT'S AN EXCELLENT FRAMEWORK, AND I THINK THAT'S A FRAMEWORK THAT WE CAN USE FOR OTHER, OTHER THINGS. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE COMMON TEMPLATE, BUT ALL OF POINTS OF OUTREACH AND THE, THE TOUCH POINTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS INFORMATION IN THE INTO FOLKS' HANDS THAT GO BEYOND JUST MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE INTERNET ACCESS IS EXCELLENT. 
          MAYBE THE BEST I'VE SEEN IN TERMS OF PUTTING OUT SOMETHING, UH, A POLICY INITIATIVE FROM, FROM US. 
          SO LET'S USE THAT AGAIN AND LET'S IMPROVE ON IT IF, IF, IF IT'S POSSIBLE. 
          SO, UH, I'LL BE SUPPORTING IT AND WE'LL START WITH, UM, OUR DISCUSSION. 
          LET ME CALL ON COUNCIL MEMBER VILLAGRA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I WANT TO THANK STAFF, 
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ELIANA, CAM, ANDY, ALL THE STAFF THAT WAS PART OF THIS PROCESS. 
          UH, YOU, YOU ALL DID AN AMAZING JOB. 
          UM, V VERY MUCH APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. 
          THE MEMBERS, ALL OF YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          A HUGE TASK THAT WE ASKED YOU TO UNDERTAKE. 
          I WANNA THANK THE MAYOR FOR BRINGING FORWARD THIS AS AN IDEA AND AN OPTION FOR US TO LOOK AT REDISTRICTING AS WE SAW THE PROBLEMS HAPPENING AT THE STATE LEVEL. 
          BUT YOU CAME TOGETHER, YOU WORKED VERY HARD, LOTS OF MEETINGS. 
          WHAT WAS IT, 15 IN TOTAL TO GET THIS DONE? AND WHAT I FEEL, GET IT DONE RIGHT, UM, AGAIN, I'M GONNA USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, I BELIEVE, STILL BELIEVE THIS CENSUS WAS AN UNDER COUNT, BUT Y'ALL TOOK THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND Y'ALL, Y'ALL MOVED FORWARD WITH IT, AND YOU DID AN EXCELLENT JOB. 
          AND I WANNA, UM, WHEN WE DID HAVE OUR MEETING, AND I, I APPRECIATE THE MEETINGS WE DID HAVE, WHEN WE DID HAVE THE MEETING IN DISTRICT THREE, AS WE HAD THE CONVERSATION WITH THE CITIZENS, WE UNDERSTOOD THE ISSUES WEREN'T NECESSARILY REDISTRICTING FOR DISTRICT THREE, WHICH NO CHANGES WERE MADE, BUT WERE REALLY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ISSUES, WHICH GIVES, GIVES ME AND MY TEAM AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS. 
          SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR EFFORTS. 
          I LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THIS TODAY AND, UM, AND GETTING THIS INFORMATION OUT TO THE COMMUNITY SO THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT DISTRICTS THEY'RE IN, AND WE UNDERSTAND WHAT PRIORITIES THEY HAVE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. 
          COUNCILMAN, UH, I BELIEVE MCKEE RODRIGUEZ. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM. 
          I JUST WANNA START OFF BY SAYING THAT I'M WEARING A TURTLENECK AND A BLAZER, AND I AM FREEZING. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GUYS ARE DOING IT IN SKIRTS AND DRESSES, UM, BUT IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN PLEASE ADJUST THE TEMPERATURE, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. 
          UM, I WANT TO THANK MY COMMITTEE MEMBERS, DWAYNE ROBINSON AND DEVORA FROST FOR THEIR COMMITMENT TO THEIR, TO THIS PROCESS AND ALL OF THEIR WORK, AS WELL AS ALL OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND OUR CHAIRS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S AFFECTED DISTRICT TWO THE MOST DURING THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN THE ONGOING, THE DISCUSSION ABOUT BRACKENRIDGE PARK. 
          AND I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BRACKENRIDGE PARK IS A CITY GYM THAT WE HAVE SHARED WITH DISTRICT ONE. 
          AND AS SEEN IN THE CURRENT 2017 BRACKENRIDGE BOND CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE JOINED WITH PARKS AND RECREATION, BEFORE RE THE REDISTRICTING BATTLES BEGAN, THERE WAS CONVERSATION ABOUT TREES, THERE WAS CONVERSATION ABOUT THE, THE WALL BIRDS. 
          THERE HAS BEEN A BATTLE AT BRACKENRIDGE PARK. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE THAT OUR JOINT STEWARDSHIP IS A SUCCESSFUL PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN OUR TWO DISTRICTS. 
          AND I'M GRATEFUL THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO SHARE BRACKENRIDGE PARK IN THIS, UH, REDISTRICTING PLAN, DESPITE THE BATTLES THAT IT TOOK TO ENSURE DISTRICT TO RETAIN OUR RIFLE REPRESENTATION. 
          THERE. 
          I DID VERY EARLY ON IN THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS, LET MY DISTRICT KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WEREN'T, WE WEREN'T CHANGING THAT NOTHING WAS SCHEDULED TO HAPPEN, BUT IF, IF THERE EVER WAS A CHANGE PROPOSED, THAT I WOULD MAKE SURE THAT MY COMMUNITY WAS INFORMED AND THAT THEY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THE ISSUE, AND THAT THEY WOULD BE HEARD. 
          AND WE SAW THAT HAPPEN. 
          WE SAW 10 DOZENS OF PEOPLE SHOW UP AND SPEAK OUT ABOUT THINGS THAT MATTER TO THEM, INCLUDING BRACKEN RIDGE PARK AND REPRESENTATION. 
          AND I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, I RECEIVED A LITTLE BIT OF CRITIQUE FOR ON THE DICE EXPRESSING MY, YOU KNOW, MY DESIRE TO KEEP BRACKENRIDGE PARK IN, YOU KNOW, SPLIT BETWEEN DISTRICT ONE AND DISTRICT TWO. 
          BUT LOOK WHERE WE ARE NOW. 
           IT, IT WAS A WIN. 
          AND I, I DO WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROCESS. 
          AND I WOULD HAVE, IF WE HAD STUCK WITH THE COMMITMENT THAT EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER WAS NOT GOING TO WEIGH IN AT ALL, AND WE WERE GOING TO LET THE BODY ACT INDEPENDENTLY, I WOULD'VE STAYED OUT OF THIS. 
          AND MY COMMUNITY LIKELY WOULD HAVE FOUND OUT ABOUT BRACKEN BRACKENRIDGE PARK A LITTLE BIT LATER ON IN THE PROCESS. 
          AND WHO KNOWS WHAT WOULD'VE HAPPENED. 
          BUT I THINK THAT MOVING FORWARD, AND WHEN WE DO POTENTIALLY HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT REDISTRICTING IN A COUPLE YEARS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT FOLK ARE NOT ABLE TO APPOINT THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS TO SIT ON THE REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE. 
          THE FOLK DO NOT APPOINT THEIR STAFF MEMBERS TO SIT ON THE REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE. 
          THIS IS SIGNIFICANT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S THAT, ON THAT, THAT MIGHT BE A SPICY LITTLE COMMENT. 
          BUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REDISTRICTING, VERY EARLY ON IN THIS PRESENTATION, YOU SAID IT'S ABOUT ENSURING THAT OUR VOTERS HAVE A VOICE. 
          AND SOME OF THE THINGS, AND SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WAS GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES I DID NOT APPRECIATE. 
          AND I WAS READING AN ARTICLE, UM, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE POLITICAL NATURE OF REDISTRICTING AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR FOLK. 
          AND I WAS REALLY THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHY MIGHT SOME PARTS OF DOWNTOWN, WHY, WHY MIGHT THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT BE OPPOSED TO HAVING SOMEONE LIKE COUNCILMAN 
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CASTILLO OR REPRESENT THEM? WHY, WHY MIGHT THEY NOT WANNA BE A PART OF DISTRICT FIVE? AND I READ SOMETHING INTERESTING YESTERDAY IN THE EXPRESS NEWS, AND IT WAS, UH, AN ARTICLE AND IT SAID, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO HEAR BUSINESS LEADERS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS DISCUSS STRATEGIES FOR GETTING CASTILLO. 
          AND MCKEE RODRIGUEZ VOTED OUT OF OFFICE ACCORDING TO VETERAN CITY HALL INSIDERS. 
          AND THAT WAS A, THAT WAS A COMMENT MADE ABOUT REDISTRICTING. 
          AND SO WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT ALL OF THE INFLUENCERS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON WHEN IT COMES TO RE DECISIONS BEING MADE BY PEOPLE THAT WE ARE APPOINTING AND THAT WE'RE GONNA BE VOTING ON, WE CAN'T IGNORE STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          AND SO, IT'S ALL FINE AND DANDY TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA MAKE MY APPOINTMENTS BASED ON THESE REASONS, AND I WANT THESE FOLK TO HAVE VOICES. 
          BUT THAT'S GROSS. 
          LIKE, SOME OF THIS STUFF IS DISGUSTING. 
          AND WE HAVE TO REALLY HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHO INFLUENCES US AND WHO INFLUENCES OUR DECISIONS, BECAUSE THAT'S INAPPROPRIATE. 
          AND THAT'S NOT A PLACE FOR, FOR, UM, REDISTRICTING WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GOAL OF MAKING SURE THAT EVERY PERSON IN OUR CITY HAS A VOTE. 
          SO, I WANTED TO END ON THAT NOTE, BUT THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          I'D LIKE TO START OUT BY ADDING MY THANKS AND APPRECIATION TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO SERVED ON THIS COMMITTEE. 
          UH, IT WAS, IT WAS AN IMPORTANT AND SIGNIFICANT CHARGE FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS. 
          I WANNA PARTICULARLY THANK THE TWO REPRESENTATIVES FROM DISTRICT NINE, MR. LARRY LANDOUR AND MR. HOLLIS GRARD. 
          UH, I THINK THEY DID A, A REALLY GOOD JOB. 
          AND THERE WERE NUMEROUS TIMES ALONG THE WAY WHERE I HEARD FROM THEM, WHERE THEY SAID, NO, THANKS FOR THE JOB. 
          BUT, BUT THEY STUCK WITH IT. 
          AND THEY DID IT. 
          IT WAS VERY CHALLENGING. 
          AS A MATTER OF FACT, AS I, AS I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS BEFORE, AND I THINK ABOUT IT NOW, IN ALL THE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN POLITICS AND GOVERNMENT, I HAVE NEVER LIKED THE IDEA OF GERRYMANDERING OR ELECTED OFFICIALS CHOOSING WHO THEIR VOTERS ARE. 
          I HAVE ALWAYS FELT THAT THE VOTERS DESERVE EVERY RIGHT TO DECIDE WHO THE CANDIDATES AND THE ELECTED OFFICIALS SHOULD BE. 
          AND I THINK THAT WAS THE EFFORT THAT WE PUT FORWARD AS A COUNCIL HERE TODAY. 
          UH, BUT I ALSO REMEMBER, AGAIN, A SAYING I'VE HEARD MANY TIMES OVER THE YEARS, AND THAT IS, UH, MAKING LAWS OR PASSING ORDINANCES IS A LOT LIKE MAKING SAUSAGE. 
          NOBODY WANTS TO WATCH IT GET MADE, BUT EVERYBODY HOPES IT'S GOOD AT THE END. 
          AND, UH, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS TIME WE LET EVERYBODY WATCH HOW THE SAUSAGE WAS MADE. 
          AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE A LITTLE UNEASY ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE WATCHING. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY WE SAW THAT THERE WERE AGREEMENTS AND THERE WERE DISAGREEMENTS. 
          UH, BUT ULTIMATELY, I THINK WHEN WE SEE THAT THE ENTIRE COMMISSION SUPPORTED THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION THAT AS, UH, UGLY AS THE SAUSAGE WAS BEING MADE, IT'S TURNED OUT TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE GOOD FOR ALL OF US IN THE CITY. 
          SO I'M REALLY PLEASED, UH, AT THE OUTCOME. 
          AND I HAVE TO SAY, THERE ARE PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT I'VE SERVED FOR FIVE YEARS WHO ARE GOING TO BE SERVED BY ANOTHER COUNCILMAN GOING FORWARD, AND I WISH THEM THE VERY BEST. 
          BUT I'LL ALSO SAY THIS, IT'S SOMETHING I'VE SAID, AND I THINK A LOT OF COUNCIL PEOPLE FEEL THE SAME WAY. 
          A COUNCIL PERSON FOR ONE DISTRICT IS REALLY A COUNCIL PERSON FOR THE WHOLE CITY. 
          SO I WOULD NEVER TURN AWAY ANY MEMBER OF, OR ANY CITIZEN ANYWHERE IN THE CITY WHO CAME TO ME AND SAID, I'VE GOT A COMMENT, I'VE GOT A QUESTION. 
          I NEED HELP. 
          AND I THINK ALL OF US UNDERSTAND THAT AND, AND WILL CONTINUE TO WORK THAT WAY. 
          BUT YES, WE NEEDED TO MEET THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS FOR REDISTRICTING. 
          SO SOME NEIGHBORHOODS ARE GONNA CHANGE, BUT I, I PRESUME ALL OF THEM WILL CONTINUE TO GET THE SAME QUALITY OF SERVICE THEY HAVE ASKED FOR, AND DEMANDED AND RECEIVED FROM THEIR NEW COUNCILMEN AS MUCH AS THEY DID FROM WHAT, WHOEVER THEIR PREVIOUS COUNCIL PERSON WAS. 
          SO, I LOOK FORWARD TO GOING ALONG WITH WHAT THE MAYOR HAD SAID AT THE BEGINNING. 
          I'M GONNA BE GIVING THIS A THUMBS UP. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER KIO HVAR. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          THANK YOU TO DISTRICT SIX, UH, REDISTRICTING REPRESENTATIVES, MR. JOHNNY EZ AND MR. LOUIS GOMEZ. 
          I ALSO WANNA THANK MR. MIKE CORMAN'S AND DR. 
          SHARON NAVARRO FOR SERVING AS PROXIES WHEN, UH, MR. GOMEZ 
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WAS ILL. 
          AND OF COURSE, THANK YOU TO OUR CHAIRS FOR ALL THE TIME AND EFFORT. 
          AND, UM, I'M SURE YOU WENT THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF STRESS THROUGH THIS PROCESS TOO, SO WE DO APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, YOUR SERVICE, I, I, DISTRICT SIX IS A MICROCOSM OF THE CITY AND THIS IDEAL HELD THROUGH, THROUGH THIS PROCESS, THE IDEAS AND CONCERNS THAT WERE VOICED BY REPRESENTATIVES OF MANY PARTS OF THE CITY WERE REFLECTED IN THE WISHES OF THE DISTRICT SIX COMMUNITY. 
          DISTRICT SIX WAS IN THE UNFORTUNATE POSITION TO HAVE TO SHED SOME POPULATION. 
          AND ALTHOUGH IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR ANY OF US TO LOSE OUR, OUR BELOVED RESIDENTS OR ANY NEIGHBORHOODS OR PORTIONS OF OUR DISTRICT, UH, THIS COMMITTEE DID, DID A GREAT JOB. 
          I DO HAVE A, A CRITICISM ABOUT IT. 
          YOU KNOW, MY, MY JOB IS TO BE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE, TO THE CITIZENS, NOT ONLY THAT I REPRESENT IN DISTRICT SIX, BUT TO MY CITY. 
          AND THERE WAS SOME DISCONNECT BECAUSE THIS COMMITTEE HEARD A LOT FROM THE COMMUNITY AND DIDN'T ALWAYS REACT, UH, I THINK ACCORDINGLY. 
          AND, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ACCOUNTABLE TO THE ENTIRE CITY. 
          THEY WERE OUR REPRESENTATIVES, AND WE WERE, UM, GIVEN THE TASK TO STAY OUT OF THE PROCESS. 
          SO FOR THOSE OF US THAT TOOK THAT SERIOUSLY, IT WAS DIFFICULT TO, TO SEE THAT HAPPENING. 
          BUT I THINK ON THE WHOLE, THAT OUR RESIDENTS AND NONPROFITS, AND ESPECIALLY, UM, OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, INCLUDING OUR BUSINESSES, WERE WERE BEING HEARD. 
          AND THE HIGHLIGHT HERE IS THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS MADE UP OF SO MANY UNIQUE LOCATIONS AND PEOPLE AND ASSETS, AND THE THINGS THAT I CALLED SOFT FACTORS WHEN WE DISCUSS, UM, WHEN THIS DISCUSSION BEGAN SEVEN MONTHS AGO. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THOSE THAT DID LISTEN TO EACH OTHER AND TO LISTEN TO OUR COMMUNITY. 
          I OFTEN SAY THAT THERE ARE NO BOUNDARIES IN REAL LIFE, AND I WILL HELP ANYONE IN OR OUT OF DISTRICT SIX ON ON. 
          SO THESE, THESE LINES ONLY MEAN SO MUCH TO US. 
          UM, I, I DID, I MENTIONED I'D HAD TO LOSE SOME POPULATION, AND THEY CAME TO, UH, SOME OF THE, THE MEMBERS OF THOSE COMMUNITIES CAME TO, UM, MY A PRESIDENT'S MEETING THAT WE HAD THE OTHER NIGHT, AND THEY CAME OVER TO ME AND WERE LAMENTING THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE THAT ASSOCIATION. 
          AND I REMINDED THEM, OF COURSE, WE DO. 
          IF YOU NEED SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE STILL GONNA CALL ME. 
          AND, AND THAT GOES FOR ANYBODY IN THIS CITY. 
          I ALWAYS TRY TO HELP. 
          THIS IS MY HOMETOWN, AND I LOVE EVERY PART OF THE CITY. 
          AND, UM, AND IT'S ALWAYS A BENEFIT TO ME WHEN SOMEBODY OUTSIDE MY DISTRICT DOES ASK FOR HELP, BECAUSE I GET TO LEARN ABOUT A DIFFERENT PART OF MY CITY. 
          SO, THANK YOU AGAIN TO THE COMMITTEE, TO THE OUR CITY STAFF AND ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DID, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE COMMUNITY FOR SUPPORTING THIS DECISION. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER KIO HDA, COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHE GARCIA. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          AND I WANNA START OFF BY, BY THANKING EVERYBODY, UM, INVOLVED IN THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS, AND SPECIFICALLY MY APPOINTEE, C LO LA AND, AND MIGUEL VEDA. 
          UM, AND ELIANA, I'VE HEARD YOU'VE DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          I'M, UM, I'M VERY PROUD THAT YOU, YOU WERE HELPING LEAD THIS EFFORT. 
          UM, I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE COMMITTEE'S, UH, TIME COMMITMENT. 
          SO THE 15 MEETINGS, THE ADDITIONAL MEETINGS THAT CAME, UM, IT SEEMED LIKE LAST MINUTE. 
          UM, I WATCHED THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS ONLINE. 
          I, UH, I, I BELIEVE IN MY APPOINTEES SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND I APPOINTED THEM FOR A REASON. 
          I BELIEVE IN THEM. 
          I KNOW THEY KNOW OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UM, AND I STAYED AWAY FROM THE PROCESS. 
          AND SO I, I WOULD GET BRIEFED, AND I ALREADY KIND OF KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON BECAUSE I SAW THE MEETINGS ONLINE. 
          AND, UH, AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE LAST MEETING, I, I COULDN'T FIND A LINK FOR SOME REASON, AND I TEXTED ERIC WALSH IN A PANIC. 
          AND SO, BUT IT'S OKAY. 
          I GOT IT. 
          SO I WAS ABLE TO, TO LOG IN. 
          UM, BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS, UH, THIS IS THE INTENT OF APPOINTING OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS, RIGHT? IS THAT THEY, UM, ARE REPRESENTATIVES. 
          AND I, I TRULY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU ALL KNOW YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SO WELL, UM, SOMETIMES BETTER THAN, THAN, THAN THAN US, RIGHT? AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT YOU SERVE, I THINK THAT'S WHY IT'S CRITICAL THAT WE HAVE RESIDENTS REPRESENTING. 
          UM, I DO BELIEVE THAT THE, UH, THE, THE COMMITTEE SPENT PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME THAN THEY BARGAINED FOR AS THEY WERE GOING IN. 
          UM, BUT I'M APPRECIATIVE. 
          SOME OF YOU ALL HAD SUMMER VACATIONS AND YOU ALL STILL LOGGED IN FROM, UM, FROM, FROM DIFFERENT PLACES. 
          AND SO THAT WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE. 
          AND I JUST WANNA SAY THAT YOU'VE DONE A GREAT SERVICE TO YOUR COMMUNITY. 
          SO, SO BE PROUD OF YOUR WORK AND, UM, BE, UH, PROUD OF THE FACT THAT YOU LIVE, UH, IN THE CITY THAT CAN HAVE DISCOURSE AND DISCUSSION AND REALLY COME TOGETHER TO, TO BE PROBLEM SOLVERS. 
          SO THIS WAS, I THINK, YESTERDAY, I HEARD ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES SAY, DEMOCRACY AT WORK IN ONE OF OUR COMMITTEES. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE BRING RESIDENTS TOGETHER, UM, TO SPEAK THEIR MIND AND TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT THEY LIVE IN. 
          SO, AGAIN, THANK YOU. 
          I CAN'T SAY THANK YOU ENOUGH. 
          I AM, UM, HAPPY THAT, UH, THAT THERE'S A MORE EQUAL OR MORE BALANCED APPROACH NOW TO THE DISTRICTS THAT THERE'S, UM, POPULATIONS. 
          I'M, I'M GAINING ONE, UM, ONE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND SO IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE I ALWAYS DRIVE BY 
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THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I'M LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS ISN'T IN DISTRICT FOUR. 
          AND SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT RECOMMENDATION. 
          I WAS, UH, EXCITED WHEN I SAW THE RECOMMENDATION. 
          IT MADE SENSE, UM, FOR SANDAL TO BE IN DISTRICT FOUR, BECAUSE THE, THE LINES WERE JUST REALLY CRAZY. 
          I KEEP LOOKING AT THAT MAP, AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, UH, ONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WAS LIKE, COUNCILWOMAN, YOUR MAP IS ALL OVER THE PLACE. 
          AND, UH, IT IS. 
          AND, UH, DISTRICT FOUR, IT, IT, IT'S THE SECOND LARGEST AND GEOGRAPHIC AREA. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR LOOKING AT THOSE LINES REALLY INTENTLY, REALLY PURPOSEFUL. 
          UM, WHEN I GIVE A TOUR OF THE DISTRICT, IT, IT TAKES AT LEAST TWO HOURS TO TRAVEL MY ENTIRE DISTRICT. 
          AND PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT UNTIL THEY, THEY, THEY RIDE ALONG WITH ME AND THEY REALIZE, WOW, THIS IS HUGE. 
          UM, SO I THINK THAT THAT EFFORTS LIKE THIS FOR YOU ALL TO BE ZERO ZEROED IN AND FOCUSED, UH, ARE IMPORTANT. 
          I DID WANNA SAY THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS, UM, WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT REDISTRICTING, I SPECIFICALLY ASKED IF WE COULD ENGAGE WITH INNOVATION AND TECHNOLOGY AND REALLY USE A TECHNOLOGY THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO MAKE IT A MORE MEANINGFUL PROCESS, BUT ALSO SPECIFICALLY SO THAT WE COULD SEE FIRSTHAND, OR YOU ALL REALLY, THE COMMITTEE COULD SEE FIRSTHAND THE CHANGES THAT WERE OCCURRING AND HOW IT WOULD AFFECT OUR COMMUNITIES. 
          I THINK THAT WE COULD HAVE IMPLEMENTED USE OF TECHNOLOGY A LITTLE BIT BETTER AS WE WENT OUT TO OUR COMMUNITIES. 
          UM, BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S A, A NICE GO AROUND FOR THE, FOR THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, UM, I GUESS WE CAN CALL LESSONS LEARNED, RIGHT? THAT, THAT WE CAN DO THAT, UM, IN BETTER OF A, BY THAT TIME, I'M SURE TECHNOLOGY WILL BE WAY ADVANCED, SO IT'LL BE EVEN BETTER. 
          UM, BUT THEN ALSO I WANTED TO, UM, THANK THE, THE STAFFERS ON THE CITY STAFF WHO, UM, ALSO SPENT SO MUCH TIME, I KEPT THINKING IN TERMS OF, UH, BUDGET. 
          LIKE IMAGINE HOW MANY ATTORNEYS WE HAVE IN THE ROOM AND HOW MUCH THEY MAKE AN HOUR. 
          IMAGINE HOW MANY STAFFERS WE HAVE IN THE ROOM, AND HOW, HOW MUCH THEY MAKE AN HOUR. 
          SO THIS IS A, A, A LOT OF MONEY THAT WAS SPENT, UM, AS WELL, TO TRY TO GET THIS RIGHT. 
          WE ONLY HAVE EVERY 10 YEARS TO TRY TO GET THIS RIGHT. 
          AND SO, UM, YOU ALL, I THINK, UH, HAVE PUT FORTH A GOOD PROPOSAL. 
          I THINK THAT YOU ALL, UH, LISTENED TO THE RESIDENTS. 
          I APPRECIATE HOW RESPECTFUL YOU ALL WERE AS THE RESIDENTS WERE COMING AND DELIVERING THEIR REMARKS AND TAKING TIME OUT OF THEIR SCHEDULES. 
          UM, I AM, I AM, I'M FROM SAN ANTONIO. 
          I'M BORN AND RAISED IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          I'M NEVER LEAVING. 
          I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE, UM, SINCE THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR ME. 
          SO I FOLLOW THIS, UM, I AM PROUD OF THE COMMUNITY THAT I SERVE, AND LIKE MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID, YES, THESE BOUNDARIES HELP US WITH, UM, OUR DISTRICTS AND, AND THE WAY THAT WE SERVE OUR CONSTITUENTS. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE ALL SAN ANTONIO. 
          WE ARE ALL WATCHING OUT FOR OUR OWN COMMUNITIES. 
          AND TODAY YOU ALL HAVE PROVED THAT YOU ALL WERE A PART OF THAT PROCESS. 
          YOU BELIEVE IN, UM, THAT YOUR COMMUNITIES, YOU SUPPORT YOUR COMMUNITIES, AND, UM, REALLY JUST, UH, WANTED TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS ON THE GREAT WORK AND I'LL BE SUPPORTIVE TODAY. 
          SO THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA, COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          UH, I TOO WANNA THANK THE COMMITTEE FOR ALL THAT Y'ALL DONE FOR THIS PROCESS. 
          UH, I WANNA RECOGNIZE MY REPRESENTATIVES WHO ARE ACTUALLY TWO OF MY PREDECESSORS, COUNCILMAN CARLTON SOLES AND COUNCILMAN JOHN CLAMP. 
          AND, UH, THEY DID A GREAT JOB. 
          UH, DISTRICT 10 IS RELATIVELY THE SAME. 
          WE HAVE ONE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS ACTUALLY SPLIT BETWEEN NINE AND 10. 
          AND, UM, UM, MY NEIGHBORHOOD WANTED TO JOIN WITH THE, THE OTHER, OTHER SIDE ON DISTRICT NINE. 
          I SAID, THAT'S GREAT, UM, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT UNDER THIS ITERATION HERE. 
          SO I WAS FULLY SUPPORTIVE THAT, SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. 
          AND, UM, YEAH, OTHERWISE WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME IN, IN OUR DISTRICT, AND I'M HAPPY, HAPPY FOR THAT. 
          SO THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR EVERYTHING THAT Y'ALL PUT INTO THIS AND LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THIS. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          I WANNA THANK OUR APPOINTEES, VELMA AND AMY FOR ALL THE WORK ON SERVING ON THIS COMMITTEE THAT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS NEVER GOING TO TO END MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, BUT IT IS REALLY COLD IN HERE. 
          AND I HAD TO PUT THIS JACKET ON. 
          UM, AND I HAVE A JACKET ON MY LAP TOO. 
          SO AGAIN, I WANNA EXTREMELY, UH, EXPRESS GRATITUDE TOWARDS OUR DISTRICT FIVE APPOINTEES WHO, UH, HELPED THE COS GARDEN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION UNITE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, UM, THEY HAD BEEN WORKING TOWARDS BRINGING THAT TOGETHER IN ONE DISTRICT FOR A, A COUPLE OF DECADES. 
          SO I APPRECIATE YOU ALL DOING THAT. 
          AND AS WELL AS BRINGING IN MORE OF OUR WEST END NEIGHBORS, UM, THAT IS THE DISTRICT THAT WE SHARE, UH, WITH DISTRICT ONE. 
          AND I ABSOLUTELY ADORE THE WEST END HOPE AND ACTION NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, GREG AND GARROS, UM, OUR AMAZING ADVOCATES FOR BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE, HOUSING, AND MEANINGFUL PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          AND I'M ALSO GRATEFUL FOR OUR NEW NEIGHBORS OF LOS ENA, AS WELL AS OUR NEIGHBORS FROM 
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DISTRICT SEVEN THAT ARE MOVING IN. 
          OFTENTIMES, ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS THAT I HEAR FROM CONSTITUENTS ON THE BORDERS OF DISTRICTS AND THROUGHOUT THIS CONVERSATION WAS CONCERNS ABOUT BORDERED NEIGHBORHOODS NOT RECEIVING THEIR FAIR SHARE OF INVESTMENT. 
          UM, AND I HEAR THEM, AND THAT'S WHY I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR US TO INCREASE OUR C I P FUNDS FOR, SO THAT WAY EVERY CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT CAN HAVE ADEQUATE FUNDING TO ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS, UH, WHETHER YOU ARE A NEW PART OF THE DISTRICT OR NOT. 
          UM, INCREASING THAT FUND WILL HELP US CHIP AWAY AT THOSE LONG AWAITED NEEDS AND IMPROVEMENTS, WHETHER IT'S A PARK LIBRARY, SO ON AND SO FORTH. 
          I'M EXTREMELY GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS WHO REPEATEDLY SHOWED UP TO, IF NOT ALL, UM, THE MAJORITY OF THE REDISTRICTING MEETINGS, MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE 15 COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND 40 MORE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, UH, AND COMMUNITY SHOWED UP TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE. 
          AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR ELIANA FOR FACILITATING THOSE COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS. 
          WE HAD A COUPLE OF DISTRICT FIVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND, UM, FACILITATING THOSE CONVERSATIONS AREN'T EASY. 
          AND THEN HAVING TO ADJUST TO TECHNOLOGY THAT'S NOT WORKING. 
          . 
          SO SUPER GRATEFUL FOR YOU ALL AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S TEAM AS WELL. 
          SO, AGAIN, RIGHT COMMUNITY SHOWED UP. 
          UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WITH FULL-TIME JOBS, KIDS HEALTH ISSUES, FOLKS WHO ARE CONCERNED AROUND BEING AROUND OTHER INDIVIDUALS 'CAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC, AND THEY SHOWED UP, YET THEY EDUCATED THEMSELVES ON COMPLEX PROCESSES AND MADE TIME TO ATTEND THESE MEETINGS AND ADVOCATED CONSISTENTLY ON BEHALF OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND YOU CAN'T PUT A PRICE ON THAT TYPE OF ORGANIZING. 
          THERE ARE ALSO MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR COMPANIES DOWN THE STREET WITH HIGH POWERED GOVERNMENT AFFAIR TEAMS WHO SOMEHOW DON'T KNOW HOW TO OPEN UP A CITY COUNCIL AGENDA TO LEARN THAT THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS IS ONGOING, UM, AND NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE LAST MINUTE. 
          SO I WANNA BE SURE THAT WE KNOW THAT WE CONTINUE TO, UH, REPRESENT, UH, OUR REP, OUR CONSTITUENTS, UH, AS FOLKS HAVE MENTIONED, RIGHT? WHETHER YOU'RE A DISTRICT FIVE RESIDENT, A SAN ANTONIO RESIDENT, WE'RE HERE TO TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER AND WE SHOULDN'T BE CONCERNED WITH ARBITRARY LINES. 
          UM, ON ROOM THAT I SEE FOR IMPROVEMENT, I SPOKE TO LEADERSHIP FROM, UH, LOS, RIGHT, AND THEY EXPRESSED, YOU KNOW, SOME CONCERNS THAT THEY HAD WITH THE PROCESS AND WHAT WE CAN DO BETTER FOR THE NEXT ROUND. 
          WHAT WAS EMPHASIZED IS THAT I SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO APPOINT MY SISTER TO REPRESENT MY DISTRICT ON A COMMITTEE, THAT I SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO APPOINT MY STAFF TO REPRESENT MY DISTRICT ON A COMMITTEE. 
          SO, MOVING FORWARD, UM, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TAKE AWAY WHEN WE REVISIT THIS CONVERSATION. 
          BUT I ALSO WANNA HIGHLIGHT RIGHT, THAT THIS IS A VERY NEW PARTICIPATORY PROCESS, AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE ALL THESE THANKS, THESE ENGAGEMENTS IF IT WEREN'T FOR OUR MAYOR, FOR PUTTING THIS IN THE HANDS OF THE PUBLIC, WHICH I GREATLY APPRECIATE. 
          I BELIEVE THAT WHEN WE PUT POLICY BUDGET IN THE HANDS OF OUR COMMUNITY, WE GET THE BEST PRODUCT. 
          AND THAT'S WHY I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SUPPORTING, UH, THIS REDISTRICTING ITEM. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          BRAVO. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          SO, LOOKING BACK, I THINK, UH, I MAY HAVE BEEN NAIVE WHEN I THOUGHT, UH, HOW STRAIGHTFORWARD AND SIMPLE THIS PROCESS MIGHT BE. 
          AND THE REASON I THOUGHT THAT, I GUESS IT WAS WISHFUL THINKING ON MY END, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, WE'RE NOT MEMBERS OF THE STATE LEGISLATURE. 
          WE'RE NOT PARTISAN. 
          WE WEREN'T TRYING TO PACK VOTERS INTO A DISTRICT TO, TO DILUTE VOTING POWER. 
          WE WEREN'T TRYING TO PUT ALL THE CONSERVATIVE VOTERS IN COUNCILMAN PERRY'S DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE OUR DISTRICTS, YOU KNOW, MORE PROGRESSIVE OR ANYTHING TO THAT EFFECT, RIGHT? UH, BUT IT DID SOMEHOW END UP GETTING SIDEWAYS. 
          UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE, AND THERE'S DISCUSSION ABOUT WHO, WHO WAS APPOINTED. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE APPOINTED, FORMER ELECTED OFFICIALS, FORMER CITY MANAGERS, FORMER, FORMER CITY ATTORNEYS, ALL KINDS OF HEAVY HITTERS BEING PUT IN THERE, RIGHT? AND ALL I HAD WAS LITTLE OLD JORDAN GOOEY AND TERESA VARGAS WYATT, JUST REGULAR DISTRICT ONE CITIZENS. 
          UM, BUT I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR ALL, FOR THEIR DEDICATION TO THE DISTRICT, AND, UH, FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THEY PUT IN. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY SHOWED UP AT MEETINGS IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WEREN'T IN OUR DISTRICT BECAUSE OF, BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE ASKING FOR THEM AND BASED ON REASON, LIKE THINGS THAT WEREN'T EVEN HAPPENING, REQUESTS THAT WEREN'T EVEN BEING MADE. 
          THEY WENT OUTTA THEIR WAY TO SERVE EVERYBODY AND TO BE, MAKE THEMSELVES AVAILABLE FOR EVERYBODY. 
          AND, AND THEY, THEY, THEY TRIED THEIR BEST, I THINK, UH, TO SERVE THE DISTRICT ONE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES WHO SPOKE UP, RIGHT? AND SO WHEN PEOPLE CAME TO ME AND THEY SAID, WE WANT THIS, WE WANT THAT. 
          I SAID, LOOK, WE KNOW THERE'S A CITIZEN COMMITTEE PROCESS. 
          GO CONTACT JORDAN GALLEY. 
          GO TALK, TALK TO TARSA VARGAS WYATT, AND YOU KNOW, YOU CAN TALK TO THEM OR GO TO THE MEETINGS, AND THAT'S WHERE YOU KNOW, AND MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD FOR EVERYBODY THERE SO THAT EVERYONE CAN HEAR YOUR CASE. 
          UM, AND, YOU KNOW, BRACKEN RIDGE ENDED UP BEING A HOT 
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TOPIC. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD RIVER ROAD THAT'S KNOWN TO BE VERY, VERY VOCAL, AND THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE AFFECTED BY A, OR IMPACTED BY ANY KINDS OF CHANGES AT BRACKENRIDGE. 
          AND, AND, UH, SO THEY, THEY MADE THEIR VOICE HEARD. 
          I'M PERFECTLY COMFORTABLE WHERE WE LANDED WITH BRACKENRIDGE PARK. 
          I VALUE MY RELATIONSHIP WITH COUNCILMAN MCKEE RODRIGUEZ. 
          HE AND I HAVE, UH, WE'RE CELEBR, YOU KNOW, THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE. 
          WE CELEBRATED BEING ON COUNCIL ONE YEAR YESTERDAY. 
          IT'S BEEN A ROCKY ROAD THAT ONE YEAR WITH BRACKEN RIDGE PARK. 
          BUT I THINK WE'VE WORKED WELL TOGETHER, AND I, AND I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO WORK WELL TOGETHER TO, TO SERVE ALL OF THOSE COMMUNITIES, WHETHER THEY'RE IN MY DISTRICT, HIS DISTRICT, OR ANY OTHER DISTRICT. 
          UM, AND, AND YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS BRACKEN RIDGE PARK IS NOT A DISTRICT ONE PARK OR A DISTRICT TWO PARK, OR A SPLIT DISTRICT ONE AND DISTRICT TWO. 
          IT'S A CITY PARK FOR EVERYBODY IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          SO, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN COURAGE WHEN HE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE TO SERVE EVERYBODY. 
          WHEN I VOTED JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO ON, UM, ON THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, I'M THINKING ABOUT EVERYBODY IN OUR CITY WHEN, WHEN WE'RE GONNA CAST A VOTE ON THIS, UH, C P S ENERGY, ENERGY EFFICIENCY PLAN. 
          I'M THINKING ABOUT EVERYBODY IN OUR CITY. 
          I'M NOT JUST THINKING ABOUT DISTRICT ONE. 
          UM, AND, AND I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT APPROACH FOR ALL OF US. 
          UM, SO I'M GONNA, UH, YOU KNOW, LET ME TALK ABOUT A COUPLE THINGS. 
          I THINK THERE WERE SOME MISSES HERE, RIGHT? AND OR WHAT CAN WE DO BETTER? THE MAPS DIDN'T HAVE A HIGH LEVEL OF DETAIL DOWN TO THE STREET LEVEL. 
          SO ONE OF MY APPOINTEES SAID WHEN THEY WERE, WHEN THEY WERE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, THEY HAD TO KEEP THEIR LAPTOP OUT, AND THEY HAD TO GO TO GOOGLE MAPS AND LOOK AT, OKAY, WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED ON THIS MAP? AND THEN GO TO GOOGLE MAPS TO SEE, WELL, YOU KNOW, WHAT AREA IS THAT AND WHAT STREETS, WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS ARE INVOLVED THERE, RIGHT? AND, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WERE REPORT, WE GOT SOME REPORTS HERE ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE DEVIATION OF NUMBER OF HISP, PERCENTAGE OF HISPANIC, HISPANIC, UM, RESIDENTS IN THE TOTAL POPULATION, PERCENTAGE OF ANGLO WHATEVER, BUT THERE WASN'T, HEY, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD'S BEING MOVED, PROPOSED TO BE MOVED, UH, OR TAKEN IN OR TAKEN OUT THAT I SAW EARLIER ON IN THE PROCESS IN TERMS OF WHAT WAS BEING PUT OUT. 
          SO THERE'S THAT, I ENDED UP HAVING TO GO, WHEN PEOPLE BROUGHT CONCERNS TO ME, I WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE COUNTY AND DOWNLOAD THE COUNTY MAPS AND MATCH THE COUNTY MAPS UP TO THE CITY MAPS TO SEE THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL. 
          AND I THINK THERE WERE SOME CONTROVERSIAL, UM, UH, ISSUES IN TERMS OF DO WE MOVE THE, THE, THE, UH, MEDICAL CENTER OR BRACKENRIDGE PARK OR OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AND THE MEDIA NEVER ACTUALLY REPORTED THAT PART OF DOWNTOWN WAS BEING, UH, PROPOSED TO MOVE UNTIL AFTER THE 14TH MEETING. 
          THERE WERE ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE 14 MEETINGS, RIGHT? AND, AND A, IT WASN'T UNTIL AFTER THE 14TH MEETING THAT THE MEDIA ACTUALLY PICKED UP ON THAT, AND IT MAY BE BECAUSE THOSE MAPS DIDN'T HAVE A HIGH LEVEL OF DETAIL. 
          UM, SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE IMPROVED, IS, YOU KNOW, BETTER LEVEL OF DETAIL OF THE MAPS DOWN TO THE STREET LEVEL, AND THEN RE REPORTING OUT NOT JUST WHAT PERCENTAGE OF LATINOS ARE BEING MOVED, OR AFRICAN AMERICANS OR ANGLOS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT LIKE, WHICH NEIGHBORHOODS ARE BEING PROPOSED TO BE MOVED SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE THAT. 
          AND MAYBE WE CAN ALERT THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND LET THEM KNOW THIS IS WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, YOU KNOW, UH, HERE ARE YOUR OPPORTUNITIES TO WEIGH IN ON IT. 
          THIS IS THE PROCESS THAT'S TAKING PLACE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, SO IF YOU, IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH IT, OR IF YOU'RE NOT, THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO GO AND SPEAK UP. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S WHY SOME OF SOME OF THESE ISSUES CAME UP LATE. 
          AND I'LL ALSO SAY THAT DISTRICT FIVE HAD TO GROW THE MOST AFTER DISTRICT FIVE. 
          DISTRICT ONE HAD TO GROW THE MOST. 
          AND WHAT WASN'T PICKED UP OR REPORTED BY ANYBODY IS THAT DISTRICT ONE WAS BEING ASKED TO GIVE UP MORE OF THEIR TERRITORY TO DISTRICT FIVE THAN ANYBODY ELSE WHEN WE HAD TO GROW. 
          AND SO WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED WAS THAT DISTRICT ONE WAS GONNA GIVE MORE, GIVE UP MORE THAN THE DISTRICTS THAT HAD TO ACTUALLY SHRINK, THAT WERE SHARING BORDERS WITH DISTRICT FIVE, OR THE DISTRICTS THAT HAD THE ABILITY TO SHRINK. 
          AND THEN, SO DISTRICT FIVE WAS ASKED TO GIVE UP MORE AND THEN PUSH FURTHER NORTH. 
          AND SO SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T AGREE WITH THAT. 
          UM, I'M PERFECTLY COMFORTABLE WITH A MAP THAT WE ENDED UP WITH. 
          I'M GONNA SUPPORT IT. 
          I'M, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING ANY OF THE NEW NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE GAINED. 
          AND I ALSO LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES WHO GAINED ANY OF, OF THE TERRITORY THAT WE PREVIOUSLY REPRESENTED, AND MAKING SURE THERE'S A SMOOTH HANDOFF, RIGHT? AND CONTINUING TO SERVE THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, NOTHING FALLS THROUGH THE CRACKS, AND SO THAT EVERYBODY IN OUR CITY CAN GET GOOD REPRESENTATION. 
          UM, AND SO I, I APPRECIATE MY, MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES WHO I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH AND WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH. 
          UM, AND THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          BRAVO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
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UH, I THINK THAT WAS BEEN, THAT'S THE BALANCE OF OUR DISCUSSION. 
          SEE NOTHING FURTHER. 
          SO, ALRIGHT, LET'S GO VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          WELL DONE Y'ALL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, 
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WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER SIX. 
          ITEM NUMBER SIX IS AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING FUNDING FOR CPS ENERGY'S NEW ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND CONSERVATION PROGRAM THROUGH JULY 24, JULY 31ST, 2027, THROUGH AN ADJUSTMENT IN THE FUEL SURCHARGE. 
          ALL RIGHT, THIS IS YOU BEN. 
          UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, UM, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M JUST GONNA DO A COUPLE OF INTRODUCTORY SLIDES ON THIS ITEM AND THEN MAKE THE CITY STAFF RECOMMENDATION. 
          SO THE ITEM THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS AN, UH, IS A REQUEST THAT CAME FROM THE C P S ENERGY BOARD OF TRUSTEES IS AN, IT IS AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD AUTHORIZE FUNDING FOR C P S ENERGY, UH, ENERGY'S NEW. 
          HERE WE GO. 
          IT WOULD AUTHORIZE FUNDING FOR CCPS ENERGY'S NEW ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND CONSERVATION PROGRAM THROUGH A, UM, ADJUSTMENT IN THE FUEL SURCHARGE. 
          THIS IS THE SAME MECHANISM THAT IS IN PLACE TODAY FOR THE EXISTING, UH, SAVE FOR TOMORROW ENERGY PLAN OR STEP ENERGY CONSERVATION PROGRAM. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE A CONTINUATION OF THAT SAME STRUCTURE. 
          UH, THE CURRENT PROGRAM IS SET TO EXPIRE IN JULY 31ST OF THIS YEAR. 
          THE NEW PROGRAM IS PROPOSING A FIVE-YEAR TERM THROUGH JULY 31ST, 2027. 
          UH, THE ESTIMATED COST ON THAT IS $350 MILLION ARE ROUGHLY, UH, $70 MILLION A YEAR, UH, THROUGH 2027. 
          THE PROGRAM ITSELF WILL BE DISCUSSED IN MORE DETAIL BY C P S ENERGY AND, AND THEIR PART OF THE PRESENTATION. 
          UH, IT DOES INCLUDE A GOAL OF, OF, UH, REDUCING DEMAND BY 410 MEGAWATTS IN TERMS OF THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY. 
          AND THE, UH, REQUEST TO APPROVE CONTINUATION OF THE ABILITY TO RECOVER THIS THROUGH THE FUEL SURCHARGE. 
          IT DOES CONTAIN THE SAME ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES THAT WE HAVE HAD IN PLACE UNDER THE EXISTING ORDINANCE. 
          SO, UM, WITH THE CURRENT PROGRAM, AND IT WILL BE THE CASE WITH THE NEW PROGRAM, C P S ENERGY WILL NOT RECOVER COSTS UNTIL AFTER A YEAR AFTER THEY HAVE OCCURRED. 
          UH, ESSENTIALLY AT THE END OF THE FIRST YEAR, UH, WE WILL GO THROUGH A PROCESS WITH C P SS ENERGY. 
          THEY HIRE AN OUTSIDE THIRD PARTY CONSULTANT THAT COMES IN AND LOOKED AT, LOOKS AT WHAT THEY SPENT, AND THEN WHAT ENERGY CONSERVATION, UH, TARGETS THEY WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE. 
          SO THAT IS SHARED WITH US. 
          IT'S AN INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY THAT IS VERIFIED SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT WE ARE MEETING THE TARGETS OF THE PROGRAM. 
          UH, IF THAT HAPPENS, THEN WE WILL WORK WITH THEM TO CONVERT THAT DOLLAR VALUE INTO AN ADJUSTMENT AND THE FUEL SURCHARGE, WHICH THEN IS PASSED THROUGH TO CUSTOMERS. 
          UM, WE MONITOR THAT ON A MONTHLY BASIS AND ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. 
          AT THE END OF THE, AT THE END OF THE, THE PROGRAM, THE WAY THIS IS SET UP, AND BECAUSE IT RUNS THROUGH OUR FUEL SURCHARGE, THEY'RE ONLY GONNA RECOVER WHAT THEY SPENT ON THE PROGRAM. 
          SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE DO IN BASE RATES WHERE WE'RE MAKING A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH SALES AND OTHER THINGS. 
          THIS, UH, PARTICULAR MECHANISM ALLOWS US TO TRUE UP AT THE END OF EACH YEAR, SO THAT IF, IF, FOR EXAMPLE, C P S ENERGY SPENDS 70 MILLION, THEY'RE ONLY GONNA GET TO RECOVER 70 MILLION. 
          AND THAT'S THE WAY THE MECHANISM IS SET UP. 
          UH, THERE ARE ANNUALLY AND QUARTERLY REPORTS THAT ARE PUBLISHED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. 
          THEY'RE ACTUALLY PUT ON THE OFFICE OF, OF, UH, SUSTAINABILITY'S WEBSITE. 
          AND THEN, UH, AGAIN, THERE WOULD BE A, THE, THE ONE NEW COMPONENT HERE IS THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING ALSO A FORMAL EVALUATION OF THE PROGRAM IN YEAR THREE. 
          UH, THEY WOULD, OF COURSE BE WORKING WITH THEIR BOARD OF TRUSTEES ON THAT. 
          I'M NOT GONNA SPEND A WHOLE LOT OF TIME ON THIS KEY, UH, KEY PROGRAM BENEFITS BECAUSE C P S IS GONNA SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THIS IN, IN THEIR PRESENTATION. 
          UH, BUT THE NEW PROGRAM DOES ALIGN WITH OUR, UH, THE CITY'S CLIMATE ACTION AND ADAPTATION PLAN. 
          IT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO OUR REDUCTION IN EMISSIONS, AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO BUILD OFF OF THE SUCCESS OF THE CURRENT PROGRAM, THE SAFER TOMORROW ENERGY PROGRAM OR STEP PROGRAM. 
          AND IT WILL ADD SOME NEW STRATEGIC CATEGORIES THAT THEY WILL, UH, SPEND A LITTLE MORE TIME EXPLAINING TO INCLUDE, UH, MORE WEATHERIZATION TO INCLUDE MULTI-FAMILY PROJECTS, UH, SOME NON-TRADITIONAL SOLAR OPTIONS, ELECTRIC VEHICLE MANAGED CHARGING, UH, BATTERY STORAGE, 
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AS WELL AS MORE CUSTOMER EDUCATION. 
          SO, JUST A REMINDER ON THE FUEL ADJUSTMENT. 
          THIS IS A MECHANISM THAT IS ON THE C P S BILL THAT ALLOWS THEM TO PASS THROUGH THE COST OF FUEL ON A MONTHLY BASIS. 
          UM, THAT, UH, ADJUSTMENT INCLUDES RECOVERING FOR ACTUAL FUEL COSTS. 
          SO, UH, THE, THE FUEL THAT WE BUY TO SUPPORT THE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS, THE COAL, THE NATURAL GAS, UM, RENEWABLE ENERGY PURCHASES WOULD BE IN THAT, UH, FUEL CATEGORY, UH, MARKET POWER PURCHASE, AS WELL AS THE RESALE, UH, NATURAL GAS THAT THEY PURCHASE FOR THEIR DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT, IN 2009, WITH THE STEP PLAN, WE CREATED THIS MECHANISM, OR ADDED TO THIS MECHANISM, THE ABILITY TO RECOVER THOSE ANNUAL COSTS THAT THEY EXPAND ON THE PROGRAM. 
          AGAIN, ONCE WE HAVE VALIDATED WITH A THIRD PARTY WHAT HAS BEEN SPENT AND WHAT HAS BEEN ACHIEVED IN TERMS OF RESULTS UNDER THE PROGRAM, WOULD THEN ALLOW THEM TO START TO RECOVER THAT THROUGH THE FUEL, UH, COST. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, WE ADDED SOME WINTER STORM URI COST RECOVERY, UH, EARLIER THIS YEAR WITH YOU ALL'S APPROVAL. 
          THE QUEUE AT THE FUEL ADJUSTMENT IS, AGAIN, UM, FOR MOST OF WHAT YOU SEE LISTED THERE IN TERMS OF FUEL, UH, COSTS RELATED TO NUCLEAR COAL, GAS MARKET POWER PURCHASES OR RENEWABLE ENERGY, THOSE ARE GETTING ADJUSTED AND TRUED UP EVERY MONTH. 
          SO WE'RE ESTIMATING SALES, WORKING WITH C P SS IS ESTIMATING SALES. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE JUST PASSING THROUGH WHAT ENDS UP BEING YOUR ACTUAL COSTS. 
          THE ENERGY CONSERVATION PROGRAMS ARE TRUED UP AT THE END OF THE YEAR, AND AS I MENTIONED, THEY WOULD ONLY RECOVER THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROGRAM. 
          SO, JUST WRAPPING UP HERE FROM A CITY STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WE DO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS FUNDING MECHANISM TO CONTINUE. 
          UH, IT IS THE SAME MECHANISM THAT IS IN PLACE FOR THE CURRENT PROGRAM. 
          SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT CONTINUE WITH THE NEW ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND CONSERVATION PROGRAM. 
          IT, AGAIN, HAS AN ESTIMATED COST OF $350 MILLION OVER THE FIVE YEAR TERM. 
          UH, THE COST TO BE RECOVERED WOULD WORK THE SAME WAY AS I JUST WENT OVER FOR STEP. 
          THERE IS A PORTION OF THAT THAT IS BUILT IN BASE RATES. 
          EVERYTHING ELSE OUTSIDE OF THAT WOULD RUN THROUGH THIS FUEL, FUEL ADJUSTMENT SURCHARGE, WHICH IS THE WAY IT WORKS TODAY. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE ALL OF THE ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES THAT WERE APPROVED WITH THE ORIGINAL PASSAGE AND, UH, OF THIS, UH, MECHANISM IN 2009 FOR THE STEP PROGRAM. 
          THEY'RE INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU HAVE, UH, BEFORE YOU TODAY. 
          SO WE ARE INCLUDING THOSE SAME ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES. 
          AND THEN THERE IS ONE ADDITIONAL ONE WHERE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS CHECK-IN THAT WOULD HAPPEN AT YEAR THREE. 
          SO, MAYOR COUNCIL, THAT CONCLUDES, UH, MY PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION. 
          I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO RUDY GARZA INTERIM, UH, PRESIDENT AND C E O OF C P S ENERGY. 
          THANK YOU, MA'AM. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          GOOD, GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          NOW, UH, MAYORS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, YOU HAVING US TODAY AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONVERSATION. 
          KNOW THERE'S LOTS OF QUESTIONS, UH, THIS HAS, ANYTIME C P S ENERGY IS INVOLVED IN A PROGRAM POLICY, UH, CONSIDERATION, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS A ROBUST DISCUSSION WITH MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY, WITH MEMBERS OF OUR BOARD, UH, WITH THIS BODY. 
          UH, AND, UH, AND, AND STEP OBVIOUSLY HAS BEEN, UH, NO DIFFERENT. 
          I DO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT. 
          I WANT TO THANK, UH, THE MAYOR WHO ALSO SITS ON OUR BOARD. 
          I CHAIR DR. 
          MACKEY WAS HERE. 
          UH, BUT I APPRECIATE, UH, THE BOARD TAKING ON WHAT HAS BEEN A DIFFICULT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CONVERSATION, UH, AND MOVING FORWARD TO GIVE, UH, OUR STAFF, UH, AND OUR, AND OUR VENDORS, QUITE FRANKLY, UH, SOME CERTAINTY ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS. 
          UH, WE CANNOT MOVE FORWARD IN ANY MEANINGFUL WAY, UH, IN, UH, IN STARTING TO PUT A, A, AN AN EVOLVED PROGRAM, UH, TOGETHER WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, UH, AUTHORIZATION BY THIS BODY. 
          UH, SO, UM, SO, SO I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE'RE HERE. 
          I WANT TO THANK, UH, THE MEMBERS OF MY STAFF WHO SPENT, I MEAN, HOURS AND HOURS OVER YEARS AND YEARS OF CONVERSATION, UH, ON THIS TOPIC. 
          UH, WE HAVE SOME OF THE INDUSTRIES, UH, MORE BEST KNOWN EXPERTS, UH, IN, IN THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND CONSERVATION SPACE, SITTING RIGHT HERE, UH, IN THIS ROOM. 
          AND YOU'LL HEAR FROM RICK LUNA, UH, HERE IN A SECOND, UH, ON, UH, SOME, SOME DETAILS JUST TO SET THE STAGE. 
          I'VE GOT A FEW SLIDES THAT I'LL GO THROUGH, AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER, UH, TO RICK, UH, TO, TO GIVE YOU THE SPECIFICS OF, OF WHERE WE'RE HEADING HERE. 
          UM, SO FOR ME, THIS IS, THESE ARE JUST OPENING COMMENTS, UH, BUT WE'RE GONNA TAKE YOU THROUGH WHAT, UH, WE BELIEVE A REFRESH PROGRAM LOOKS LIKE, UH, THAT WILL SERVE THE COMMUNITY IN THE WAY THAT, THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FEEDBACK, UH, FROM OUR CUSTOMERS AND FROM YOU ALL, UH, QUITE FRANKLY. 
          SO, UH, TODAY, AS, AS BEN MENTIONED, WE ARE REQUESTING, UH, APPROVAL FOR FUNDING, UH, FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. 
          UH, THAT HAPPENS AFTER THE FACT. 
          SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE SPEND MONEY, UH, WE VALIDATE THE SAVINGS THAT WAS ACHIEVED. 
          UH, WE TURN THAT OVER 
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TO THE CITY, UH, WHICH, UH, IN TURN VALIDATES THAT, UH, THAT WE'VE DONE WHAT WE SAID WE, WE WE ARE GONNA DO, WE WERE GONNA DO. 
          AND, UH, AND, AND THAT, THAT, UH, FUNDING GETS RECOVERED, UH, FROM OUR CUSTOMERS THROUGH THE FUEL SURCHARGE. 
          UH, THIS PROGRAM HAS AND WILL CONTINUE TO BENEFIT ALL CUSTOMERS WHEN WE SAVE, WHEN CUSTOMERS SAVE, AND, AND IT HELPS THEM SPECIFICALLY ON THEIR BILLS. 
          UH, THE ENTIRE SYSTEM SAVES WE'RE, IT'S LESS FUEL WE'RE HAVING TO BUY. 
          THAT'S LESS, UH, THAT'S A LONGER PLANNING HORIZON FOR THE NEXT ITERATION OF GENERATION RESOURCES, UH, THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED. 
          UH, SO THERE ARE SYSTEM COSTS THAT BENEFIT, UH, THE ENTIRETY OF OUR CUSTOMER BASE, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          UH, UH, CARBON REDUCTION, UH, THIS IS, IS ACTUALLY A CALLED OUT ELEMENT OF THE CAP PROGRAM. 
          AND, AND AS THIS, UH, COUNCIL CONSIDERS, UH, THOSE POLICIES, IT'S UP TO C P S ENERGY TO DO OUR PART, UH, TO IMPLEMENT 'EM. 
          UH, AND SO CERTAINLY THIS IS A CAP SUPPORTED PROGRAM. 
          UH, AND FINALLY, AS I MENTIONED, IT LOWERS CUSTOMER'S BILLS. 
          AND RIGHT NOW, WITH GAS PRICES BEING WHAT THEY ARE, UH, AND ALL, YOU KNOW, THE INFLATION THAT OUR CUSTOMERS ARE SEEING, UH, SAVINGS, UH, SHOULD BE A POLICY OUTCOME THAT I THINK, UH, WARRANTS CONSIDERATION. 
          SO WHAT ROLE DOES THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND CONSERVATION PROGRAM, UH, PLAY? UH, WE'RE GROWING POPULATION WISE. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR WE GROW ABOUT 2%, UH, IN OUR CUSTOMER BASE, BUT OUR LOW GROWTH IS ONLY 1%. 
          AND WHILE SOME OF THAT IS JUST NORMAL EQUIPMENT EFFICIENCY IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE GAINING JUST AS NEW REFRIGERATORS AND, YOU KNOW, WASHERS AND DRYERS ARE COMING, UH, INTO THE MARKET, THERE'S ALSO, UH, A, AN ELEMENT OF STEP THAT'S BUILT INTO THE SAVINGS THAT WE'RE ACHIEVING ON THE LOAD GROWTH SIDE. 
          SO, UH, SO YOU CAN SEE IT FUNDAMENTALLY IN HOW OUR SYSTEM IS GROWING. 
          UH, THIS IS A DIVERSIFICATION STRATEGY. 
          SO AS WE CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, MOVING AWAY FROM SPRUCE, YOU KNOW, AND COAL, AS WE CONSIDER NEW TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE COMING INTO THE MARKET, E ENERGY EFFICIENCY PLAYS A ROLE IN THAT RESOURCE PLANNING. 
          IT, IT IS FUNDAMENTAL TO HOW WE BELIEVE WE HAVE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF A GROWING SAN ANTONIO, UH, IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO STEP IS A DIVERSIFICATION STRATEGY TO OUR OVERALL, UH, GENERATION PORTFOLIO. 
          IT PROVIDES A TON OF OPERATIONAL FLEXIBILITY FOR US WHEN, WHEN, UH, OUR CUSTOMERS WILL, UH, UH, COMMIT TO BEING ABLE TO LOWER THEIR USAGE IN THE, IN THE PEAK TIMES OF THE SUMMER. 
          THAT'S, THERE'S ACTUALLY VALUE IN THE MARKET THERE. 
          WE OPERATE OUR SYSTEM BASED ON KNOWING WE CAN GO OUT, HIT A BUTTON AND GET ABOUT 250 TO 200, 270 MEGAWATTS OF DEMAND RESPONSE. 
          WE'VE GOT MORE DEMAND RESPONSE IN SAN ANTONIO THAN ANYWHERE ELSE, UH, IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          AND, AND WE'RE REAL PROUD OF THAT. 
          AND SO THE FLEXIBILITY THAT PROVIDES US FOR, YOU KNOW, HAVING THAT RESOURCE WE CAN GO TO IS HUGELY IMPORTANT. 
          UH, AND AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS ALSO A CARBON REDUCTION STRATEGY. 
          THERE ARE CARBON SAVINGS, UH, EVERY YEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE VALIDATE, UH, THAT WHEN YOU ADD IT ALL UP MEANS REAL SAVINGS FOR OUR ENVIRONMENT. 
          SO, MOVING ON LOWER BILLS FOR, FOR OUR CUSTOMERS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE UNDER TWO TO ONE BENEFIT FOR EVERY DOLLAR SPENT, UH, IN, IN, UH, INTO THE STEP PROGRAM. 
          AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK TO TAKE DATA. 
          WE'VE GOT TONS OF DATA THAT'S BEEN, UH, GENERATED THROUGH THE STEP PROGRAM, AND WE TAKE THAT DATA AND WE, AND WE SEND IT TO A THIRD PARTY. 
          AND THIRD PARTY RUNS THEIR VALIDATION REPORTS, UH, THAT, THAT GET SENT OVER TO THE CITY. 
          SO IT'S A PROCESS. 
          THIS IS A DATA DRIVEN PROGRAM. 
          THIS ISN'T, YOU KNOW, AN ASSUMPTION DRIVEN PROGRAM. 
          WE TAKE THE DATA THAT WE GENERATE THAT VALIDATES SAVINGS, AND WE TURN THAT OVER TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE DOING WHAT, UH, THE COMMUNITY EXPECTS OF US. 
          UM, SO, UH, SO AGAIN, THERE SHOULD BE A PAYBACK FOR EVERY DOLLAR INVESTED. 
          WE GET, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ABOUT A LITTLE UNDER $2 OF, OF, UH, OF BENEFIT, UH, TO OUR SYSTEM. 
          UH, AND CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, NOW MORE THAN EVER, UH, OUR CUSTOMERS, UH, YOU KNOW, NEED HELP FIGURING OUT HOW TO SAVE AND MAKING THEIR HOMES MORE EFFICIENT IS A SUSTAINABLE, LONG-TERM, YOU KNOW, STRATEGY FOR HELPING THOSE THAT, THAT ARE MOST IN NEED IN IN OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY. 
          QUITE FRANKLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL ECONOMIC IMPACT STEPS, CERTAINLY, UH, YOU KNOW, TRANSLATES INTO JOBS. 
          UH, THESE ARE THE NUMBERS IN TERMS OF THE PARTICIPATING BUSINESSES. 
          A LOT OF LOCAL BUSINESSES HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, UH, PARTICIPATE IN PROVIDING, UH, SERVICES BACK INTO, UH, THROUGH THE STEP PROGRAM. 
          AND WE BELIEVE, UH, IT IS A DRIVER AND A SUPPORTER OF ROUGHLY 7,500 LOCAL JOBS, UH, 320 MILLION IN LABOR INCOME, UH, OVER THE COURSE OF, UH, THE LAST STEP PROGRAM. 
          AND AGAIN, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING GOING FORWARD, THIS ISN'T A RE-UP OF, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'VE DONE THINGS IN THE PAST. 
          UH, WE ARE GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, REALLY REFRESHING THE PROGRAMS. WE'VE GOTTA CONTINUE DOING WEATHERIZATION BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS THE UTILITY BURDEN, UH, ISSUES IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UH, 
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BUT WE'VE ALSO GOT TO EVOLVE AND CHANGE, YOU KNOW, PROGRAMS GOING FORWARD TO REFLECT THE CURRENT MARKET, THE CURRENT NEEDS OF OUR CUSTOMERS. 
          UH, AND, AND RICK WILL TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE'RE DOING THAT, BUT THERE CERTAINLY IS AN ECONOMIC BENEFIT, UH, TO THE COMMUNITY THAT THAT CANNOT BE, UH, OVERLOOKED. 
          SO THESE ARE MY CONCLUDING THOUGHTS. 
          THESE, THESE WOULD BE CONCLUDING THOUGHTS JUST ON MY OPENING COMMENTS HERE. 
          UH, BUT SAN ANTONIO'S BUILT AN AWARD WINNING WINNING PROGRAM. 
          THE INDUSTRY LOOKS TO SAN ANTONIO AS A LEADER IN ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND CONSERVATION. 
          AND THAT'S BEEN THROUGH THE HARD WORK OF THE PEOPLE BEHIND ME, UH, THAT HAVE BUILT THIS PROGRAM INTO WHAT IT IS, UH, AND WOULD LIKE TO CARRY IT INTO THE FUTURE. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE STUDIED THE PROGRAM THE PAST THREE YEARS. 
          UH, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE NEED FOR MORE STUDY. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE REALLY FOCUSED IN ON THE CONVERSATION WITH THE RAC. 
          THEY, THEY, THEY WOULD'VE LIKED US TO SEEN MORE STUDIES. 
          UH, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT, UH, TO DEAL WITH THE PROCUREMENT REQUIREMENTS OF A PROGRAM LIKE STEP IN ONE YEAR INCREMENTS. 
          SO, UM, SOME OF YOU ON THIS BO ON THIS BODY, UH, OUTSIDE OF THE NEWER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, HAVE VOTED FOR, UH, EXTENSIONS IN THE PAST. 
          WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU FOR IS THE ABILITY TO CARRY A FIVE YEAR PROGRAM FORWARD. 
          BUT IN THAT, WHAT WE'VE, WE'VE DEVELOPED A THREE YEAR OFF RAMP, UH, THAT OUR BOARD ASKED FOR. 
          'CAUSE THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A DIFFERENT DECISION IN, IN A COUPLE YEARS AFTER, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTEN, UH, SOME FEEDBACK ON THE, THE PROGRAMS, UH, THAT WE'RE BUILDING RIGHT NOW. 
          AND ONE THING THAT I THINK HAS BEEN LESS CLEAR THAT I WANNA MAKE CLEAR TO YOU, YOU KNOW, UH, TODAY, RIGHT NOW, EVERY YEAR, AND IT'S EXISTED WITH, WITH THE STEP IN THE PAST, AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO EXIST WITH, UH, THE NEW STEP IN THE FUTURE. 
          EVERY YEAR WE LOOK AT OUR PROGRAMS AND WE MAKE CHANGES. 
          THERE'VE BEEN 51 DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT NUMBER, 51 ISH, DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, UH, THAT OVER THE YEARS, SOME OF WHICH HAVE, WE'VE RETIRED BECAUSE EITHER THEY DIDN'T WORK OR, YOU KNOW, IN CASE OF, YOU KNOW, NEW LIGHT BULBS. 
          YOU KNOW, NOW ALL YOU CAN GET IS L E D LIGHT BULBS WHEN YOU GO TO HOME AND, YOU KNOW, UH, HOME, HOME DEPOT AND LOWE'S. 
          SO YOU DON'T NEED AN INCENT AND GIVE AWAY, UH, UH, LIGHT BULBS ANYMORE. 
          UM, SO THE PROGRAMS HAVE TO EVOLVE. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO IS EVERY YEAR WE'LL GO TO THE MUNICIPAL UTILITIES COMMITTEE. 
          YOU KNOW, WE WILL PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL. 
          WE'RE GONNA GO TO OUR BOARD, AND WE'RE GONNA TALK TO 'EM ABOUT THE PERFORMANCE OF OUR, UH, OF OUR, OF OUR, UH, PROGRAMS, AND TAKE INPUT INTO HOW THOSE PROGRAMS NEEDS TO CHANGE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. 
          SO THERE WILL BE AN ANNUAL LOOK BUILT IN, UH, TO THE NEW, TO THE NEW VERSION OF, OF STEP, UH, THAT I WANT TO COMMIT TO YOU, UH, IS, UH, IS OUR INTENTION. 
          SO, UH, WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, UM, I, I WOULD JUST WANT TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT TODAY. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU CAN TAKE A STEP BACK, WHETHER YOU'RE FRUSTRATED WITH MAYBE HOW I'VE COMMUNICATED, UH, YOU KNOW, TO THE COMMUNITY ON THESE ISSUES OR MY, MY TEAM, UM, STEP HAS DONE A LOT OF GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UH, IT HELPS PEOPLE SAVE MONEY. 
          IT HELPS OUR BUSINESSES FOCUS ON THEIR BUS, THEIR BUSINESS, AND LESS ABOUT, UH, THEIR ENERGY. 
          IT HELPS US SAVE, UH, ON ALL THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, FROM A GENERATION PERSPECTIVE, UH, THAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO FOCUS ON, YOU KNOW, THE ENVIRONMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, DIVERSIFYING OUR, OUR ENERGY SOURCES. 
          UM, STEP IS A GOOD PROGRAM THAT FROM, FROM THE, FROM THE GET GO, UH, I HAVE SUPPORTED PUBLICLY AND I WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT. 
          I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR SAN ANTONIO TO HAVE A ROBUST ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND CONSERVATION PROGRAM. 
          UH, AND I WOULD ASK FOR YOUR FAVORABLE SUPPORT TODAY. 
          UH, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE FOR US. 
          THANK YOU, RICK. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, CITY COUNCIL, AND THANK, THANK YOU, RUDY, FOR, UH, YOUR COMMENTS. 
          UM, I'M GOING TO CONTINUE, UH, THE, THE PRESENTATION, UH, TALKING ABOUT THE PROPOSAL THAT, UH, THAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY, AND FILLING IN THE DETAILS ON, UH, EXACTLY WHAT THE TARGETS ARE, UH, THE PROPOSED BUDGETS, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, SOME OF THE IMPLEMENTATION FEATURES, UH, THAT, THAT GO WITH IT. 
          UM, TO, TO START, UH, JUST, UH, RUDY MENTIONED OPERATING THE PROGRAMS UNDER EXTENSIONS OVER THE LAST, UH, THREE YEARS. 
          UH, IT WAS IN AUGUST OF 2019 THAT WE ACHIEVED, UH, THE STEP GOAL, UH, FROM THE ORIGINAL PROGRAM, UH, WHICH WAS A YEAR EARLY AND, AND UNDER BUDGET. 
          AND, UH, SINCE THEN, WE HAVE TWICE ASKED THE CITY COUNCIL AND RECEIVED APPROVAL, UH, FOR ONE YEAR, A ONE YEAR EXTENSION, AND THEN AN 18 MONTH EXTENSION, WHICH EXPIRES, UH, JULY 31ST OF THIS YEAR. 
          UH, IN THAT TIMEFRAME, WE'VE DONE TWO ASSESSMENTS OF THE PROGRAM. 
          UH, ONE WAS REQUIRED UNDER THE ORDINANCE WAS TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT, ABOUT WHETHER WE SHOULD CONTINUE, AND, AND WE DELIVERED THAT AT THE END OF 2019. 
          UH, AND THEN OUR BOARD ASKED FOR AN ADDITIONAL ASSESSMENT, UH, REGARDING, UH, STRATEGIES AND, AND, AND BENCHMARKING, UH, WHICH WE CALLED THE BRATTLE REPORT THAT WAS DELIVERED EARLIER THIS YEAR. 
          UH, AND WE'VE SHARED PUBLICLY, UH, IN, IN MANY MEETINGS, UH, AND HAD A NUMBER, A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND RECOMMENDATIONS IN THAT REPORT. 
          UM, WE ALSO RAN AN R F P PROCESS TO 
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HELP, UH, DEVELOP AND GATHER IDEAS FROM THE MARKET ON, UH, NEW, NEW PROGRAM, NEW TECHNOLOGY OPPORTUNITIES TO BRING INTO THE PROGRAM. 
          AS, AS RUDY MENTIONED, UH, THIS IS NOT A STATUS QUO PROGRAM. 
          WE, WE UNDERSTAND, WE REALIZE THE NEED TO CONTINUE TO ADAPT, INCORPORATE NEW TECHNOLOGIES. 
          AND SO THAT R F P REALLY BROUGHT A LOT OF THOSE IDEAS TO THE TABLE, UH, AND OUR, SOME OF THEM ARE INCORPORATED IN THE PROPOSAL WE'RE SHOWING YOU TODAY. 
          UH, ALONG THE WAY IN THE PROCESS, OF COURSE, WE'VE ENGAGED WITH KEY STAKEHOLDERS, UH, AND, AND WE'VE, UH, WE'VE DEVELOPED IDEAS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH, WITH STAKEHOLDERS. 
          UH, THEY, THEY HAVE GIVEN US GOOD FEEDBACK, UH, WHICH WE HAVE TRIED TO INCORPORATE INTO OUR PROPOSAL. 
          UH, SO THE RATES ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WE WERE, WE WERE IN FRONT OF THEM MULTIPLE TIMES AS WELL AS THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, OVER THE LAST, UH, UH, THREE TO FOUR MONTHS, UH, REGULARLY IN, IN FRONT OF THEM AS WE WERE DEVELOPING THE PROPOSALS, AS WE WERE GETTING GUIDANCE FROM THE BOARD, UH, SEEKING THEIR FEEDBACK AND, AND AGAIN, BUILDING THAT INTO THE PROPOSAL. 
          UH, AND THEN WE, WE SUBSEQUENTLY ASKED THEM TO, TO WEIGH IN, AND THEY DID, THEY DID PRESENT IN FRONT OF OUR BOARD WHEN WE, UH, WHEN THEY TOOK THE VOTE, UH, IN MAY. 
          UH, WE'VE ALSO REACHED OUT TO CITY COUNCIL. 
          WE'VE HAD ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS WITH, WITH EACH OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, AS WELL AS WE'VE BEEN IN FRONT OF THE MUNICIPAL UTILITY COMMITTEES, UH, TWICE, UH, AGAIN, SEEKING FEEDBACK, UH, AND, AND, AND ENGAGEMENT IN THE PROCESS. 
          AS WE'VE GONE ALONG, ONE OF THE KEY, UH, UH, SOURCES OF FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE RECEIVED IS, IS OF COURSE, THE NEED FOR TRANSPARENCY, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO THE COST OF THE PROGRAM. 
          UH, WE UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THESE, THESE COSTS ARE RECOVERED THROUGH A FUEL SURCHARGE. 
          NOT ALL CUSTOMERS ARE AWARE, UH, THAT THEY PAY FOR THE PROGRAM. 
          UH, OUR BOARD WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE MADE THAT AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE. 
          AND SO WE HAVE DONE A COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          ONE IS WE'VE, WE'VE POSTED INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE THAT DETAILS, UH, HOW MUCH, UH, CUSTOMERS PAY BASED ON THE, THEIR PAY, BASED ON THE, THEIR, THEIR, THEIR, UH, THEIR USAGE, UH, HOW MUCH THEY CONTRIBUTE TO THE PROGRAM. 
          UH, AND THEN WE SENT LETTERS, UH, CUSTOMIZED LETTERS TO ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS, UH, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, UH, LETTING THEM KNOW HOW MUCH THEY CONTRIBUTED TO THE PROGRAM, UH, IN 2021, AS WELL AS, UH, BRINGING THEM, UH, UH, SHARING WITH THEM INFORMATION ON THE, THE ACTION THAT THE BOARD WAS CONSIDERING AT THAT TIME, AND ENCOURAGING THEM TO, TO WEIGH IN, UH, WITH PUBLIC COMMENT IF THEY HAD, UH, FEEDBACK THEY WANTED TO SHARE WITH THE BOARD, SO THAT THAT WAS ALL COMPLETED, UH, IN THE MIDDLE OF MAY. 
          UH, AND, UH, AND AGAIN, UH, I THINK, UH, IT WAS A, IT WAS A HEALTHY PART OF THE PROCESS TO, TO BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT THOSE COSTS. 
          UH, SO THE PROPOSAL THAT THE, THE BOARD APPROVED, UH, AT THEIR MAY MEETING WAS FOR A $70 MILLION FIVE YEAR PROGRAM, UH, ORGANIZED AROUND, UH, FIVE GOALS. 
          UH, ONE IS CONTINUING TO REDUCE THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL CAPACITY, UH, AT, OR THE CITY IS GROWING. 
          RUDY MENTIONED, UH, THAT, UH, THAT WE HAVE MORE CUSTOMERS COMING EVERY DAY. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE MANAGE OR DEVELOP PROGRAMS TO HELP US REDUCE THE NEED TO BUILD ADDITIONAL CAPACITY TO MEET THAT LOAD? UH, LIKEWISE, HELPING CUSTOMERS SAVE ENERGY AND SAVE MONEY, WHICH TRANSLATES TO LOWER BILLS AS A GOAL, UH, ADDRESSING EQUITY, UH, CERTAINLY ENERGY BURDEN, UH, IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN VERY FOCUSED ON. 
          AND HOW CAN WE CONTINUE TO, UH, BRING IN PROGRAMS THAT ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF OUR CUSTOMERS WITH, UH, WITH A HIGH ENERGY BURDEN, UH, OR, OR LOW INCOME DEFINED AS LOW INCOME, UH, AND, AND, AND DO THAT THROUGH NEW PROGRAMS BEYOND WHAT WE CURRENTLY PROVIDE, WHICH IS WEATHERIZATION OR CASA VERDE. 
          UH, DOING THAT THROUGH ADDITIONAL MEANS. 
          OTHER ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS, INNOVATION, I, I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE R F P THAT WE RAN, UH, OR EARLIER LAST YEAR. 
          UM, WE, WE SEE INNOVATION AS AN OPPORTUNITY. 
          WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE WITH US TODAY THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE 10 YEARS AGO. 
          UH, NAMELY THINGS LIKE ENERGY STORAGE. 
          LOTS OF CUSTOMERS ARE INTERESTED IN COMBINING SOLAR WITH ENERGY STORAGE. 
          UH, UH, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S ELECTRIC VEHICLES COMING, AND SO HOW DO WE MINIMIZE THE IMPACT TO THE GRID IN TERMS OF HAVING THEM CHARGE AT THE RIGHT TIME, YOU KNOW, LATER IN THE EVENING RATHER THAN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE, OF A HOT SUMMER DAY. 
          UH, AND SO HOW DO WE INCORPORATE THESE TYPES OF STRATEGIES, THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS, INTO, INTO THE OVERALL PROGRAM? AND THEN FINALLY, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS. 
          YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE GOALS THAT WE IDENTIFIED WAS ALIGNING WITH THE CAP PLAN. 
          UH, 44% OF ENERGY USE, UH, OR, OR, I'M SORRY, CARBON EMISSIONS ARE RELATED TO BUILDING ENERGY USE. 
          HOW CAN WE HELP THROUGH THIS PROGRAM TO, TO MITIGATE, UH, MITIGATE THAT IMPACT? SO WE STARTED WITH GOALS. 
          UH, THIS IS A, AN ESTIMATED BUDGET BASED ON, UH, WHAT WE BELIEVE IS ACHIEVABLE IN EACH OF OUR MAJOR PROGRAM CATEGORIES. 
          I WILL TELL YOU THAT, UH, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT FIT INTO EACH, EACH OF THESE CATEGORIES, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE SORT OF TRYING TO KEEP THIS AT A, AT A LITTLE BIT HIGHER LEVEL. 
          UM, AND, AND WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE IS THAT, UH, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS 
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ALLOCATE, UH, WE'VE TRIED TO BE AS, AS, AS, UM, UH, DISTRIBUTE THE FUNDS IN A WAY THAT CAN HELP US MEET, AGAIN, MULTIPLE OBJECTIVES, UH, BUT REALLY KEEPING AN EYE ON, YOU KNOW, INCREASING OUR COMMITMENT TO LOW-INCOME PROGRAMS, CONTINUING TO, TO MAINTAIN AND GROW OUR DEMAND RESPONSE PROGRAMS, UH, SUPPORTING ROBUST ENERGY EFFICIENCY INITIATIVES. 
          AND THEN ALLOCATING, UH, FUNDS FOR, UH, AGAIN, INNOVATIVE AND NEW PROGRAMS, IN THIS CASE, UH, ABOUT $60 MILLION OVER FIVE YEARS TO DEVELOP AND GROW AND NURTURE THOSE NEW PROGRAMS. UH, WE'VE BEEN ASKED FOR DETAIL ABOUT WHAT IS, WHAT IS IN THE CURRENT PROGRAM VERSUS WHAT WOULD BE IN THE NEW PROGRAM. 
          UH, WHAT WE'VE DONE TRY TO DO HERE, AGAIN, AT A HIGH LEVEL, IS TO SHOW YOU FOR THE DIFFERENT PROGRAM CATEGORIES, WHAT DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE, AND THEN WHAT ARE WE PROPOSING, UH, GOING FORWARD? UH, YOU'LL SEE IN TERMS OF THE EXISTING PROGRAMS IN THE, IN THE UPPER AREA, UH, FOR THE MOST PART, WE ARE CONTINUING A LOT OF WHAT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL. 
          UH, UH, MANY, MANY OF THESE PROGRAMS, UH, WE, WE MARKED OFF COOL ROOF THERE, AS AN EXAMPLE, HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL. 
          WE WANNA CONTINUE TO, UH, PROVIDE THOSE TYPES OF PROVEN PROGRAMS TO OUR CUSTOMERS. 
          THERE IS SOME TRANSITION IN THE SOLAR AREA, AND WHAT WE'VE PROPOSED IS IN THE FUTURE, DEEMPHASIZING SOLAR REBATES, AND REALLY MOVING TO WHAT WE'VE CALLED NON-TRADITIONAL SOLAR OPPORTUNITIES, WHICH IS THINGS LIKE COMMUNITY, SOLAR, OTHER THINGS THAT HELP US ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF SMALL BUSINESS AND LOW INCOME CUSTOMERS TO BE ABLE TO ADOPT RENEWABLE ENERGY GOING FORWARD. 
          UH, AND THEN IF, AND THEN ON THE LOWER, UH, SECTION, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE NEW PROGRAM CATEGORIES THAT, THAT, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          UH, WEATHERIZATION FOR MULTIFAMILY, WHICH WE, WE BELIEVE IS A HUGE NEED IN, IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          UH, TARGETED LOW INCOME PROGRAMS. SO FOR EXAMPLE, APPLIANCE REBATES, OTHER REBATES THAT WOULD BE DIRECTLY, UH, TO AREAS WHERE WE KNOW THAT CUSTOMERS, UH, MAY BE LOOKING, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR A HIGH EFFICIENCY WINDOW UNIT. 
          UH, THEY, THEY COULD BE LOOKING FOR OTHER APPLIANCES FOR THEIR HOME, AND HOW DO WE BRING THE REBATES TO THEM IN A WAY TO MAKE IT AS EASY AS POSSIBLE, UH, TO PARTICIPATE. 
          EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS, UH, I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT EV CHARGING, UH, AND THEN ENERGY STORAGE. 
          SO THESE ARE ALL OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE SEE THAT ARE OUT THERE. 
          THERE WILL BE MORE, UH, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, THERE WILL BE NEW OPPORTUNITIES, NEW TECHNOLOGIES. 
          UH, THIS IS, WE, WE LOOK AT THIS AS A STARTING POINT FOR, FOR WHAT WE, WE BELIEVE WE CAN DO, UH, RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE. 
          SO WE TALKED ABOUT EQUITY AND, AND THE IMPORTANCE OF EQUITY AS A GOAL, UH, IN, IN THE BUDGET THAT WE JUST SHOWED YOU. 
          UH, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO INCREASE THE ALLOCATION, UH, THAT GOES TOWARDS LOW INCOME PROGRAMS, UH, TO 28%, UH, IN THE HISTORICAL STEP PROGRAM, THE, THE LAST 12 YEARS, UH, THAT, THAT NUMBER WAS 16%, WHICH WAS REALLY THE WEATHERIZATION PROGRAM, THE CASA VEDA PROGRAM. 
          AND SO WE WOULD GROW THIS, GROW THAT NUMBER, UH, ONE BY CONTINUING THE WEATHERIZATION PROGRAM, WHICH HAS BEEN VERY, VERY GOOD. 
          UH, VERY GOOD PROGRAM, SERVED A LOT OF USE, UM, BUT ALSO THEN BRINGING IN OTHER PROGRAMS INTO, INTO THE PORTFOLIO. 
          I MENTIONED MULTI-FAMILY, WEATHERIZATION, THE TARGETED DISCOUNTS AND, AND, AND SO FORTH. 
          AND SO WE BELIEVE THAT WITH THOSE PROGRAMS IN PLACE, WE CAN GROW THIS NUMBER UP TO 28% AND POTENTIALLY MORE AS WE, AGAIN, DEVELOP ADDITIONAL IDEAS, UH, OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. 
          UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE, WE BELIEVE THERE ARE GREAT OPPORTUNITIES TO LEVERAGE EXTERNAL FUNDING TO HELP US MAKE THIS GO EVEN FARTHER, UH, THROUGH GRANTS AND THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS. 
          UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE, UH, PACE PROGRAM IS, IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, LEVERAGE, UH, ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES TO HELP CUSTOMERS BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT EFFICIENCY INITIATIVES THAT, THAT MAYBE THEY OTHERWISE WOULDN'T BE. 
          AND SO, HOW CAN WE PAIR UP THE PROGRAM WITH THESE PARTNERSHIPS, UH, TO, TO MAKE THE DOLLARS GO EVEN FARTHER? UH, WE'RE GONNA BE FOCUSED ON OUR, UH, ON HOW DO WE USE DATA TO IDENTIFY CUSTOMERS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE HELPING THOSE WITH THE HIGHEST ENERGY NEED. 
          UH, AND, AND WE'VE GOT DATA WE CAN LEVERAGE OUTSIDE DATA, UH, TO REALLY HELP US HONE IN ON HOW DO WE GROW PARTICIPATION, UH, FROM, FROM, FROM OUR CUSTOMERS WITH THE, THE HIGHEST NEED. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, UH, WE ARE PROPOSING TO EXPAND ELIGIBILITY FOR OUR LOW INCOME PROGRAMS. UH, TODAY, IT'S, UH, UH, 200% OF, OF POVERTY IS OUR, IS OUR, IS OUR QUALIFYING CRITERIA. 
          WE WANNA BROADEN THAT TO MAKE ENERGY BURDEN, UH, AN ADDITIONAL CRITERIA AS WELL AS IF, IF CUSTOMERS ARE PART OF ANY OTHER LOW INCOME ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. 
          UH, AGAIN, THE IDEA IS TO TRY TO MAKE IT AS EASY AS POSSIBLE FOR A CUSTOMER TO QUALIFY. 
          UH, FOR, FOR THE, UH, FOR THE LOW INCOME PROGRAMS, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE SET, WE, WE BELIEVE WE SET, UH, VERY AGGRESSIVE GOALS. 
          UH, THE KEY TO THE PROGRAM BEING SUCCESSFUL IS CUSTOMER PARTICIPATION. 
          UH, AND, AND, AND SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PARTICIPATION ON A GRAND SCALE. 
          YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED THOUSAND, 200,000 CUSTOMERS PARTICIPATING IN THE PROGRAM. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE MARKETING AND OUTREACH IS, IS REALLY CRITICAL. 
          UH, AND AGAIN, 
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UH, WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO EVOLVE OUR, OUR TACTICS, OUR STRATEGIES, OUR ENGAGEMENT APPROACHES, UH, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE UP HERE. 
          JUST SOME OF THOSE, UH, SOME OF THESE WE'VE, WE'VE DONE FOR MANY YEARS. 
          OTHERS, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DEVELOP, UH, AND ESPECIALLY AS WE DEVELOP NEW PROGRAMS. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTA BUILD RECOGNITION, UH, ON, ON THE PART OF CUSTOMERS OF, OF WHAT THESE NEW THINGS ARE, EXPLAIN HOW THE PROGRAMS WORK, AND, AND, AND SO THAT MARKETING AND OUTREACH IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL. 
          AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH, WITH YOUR OFFICES, WITH YOUR STAFF, TO GET THE WORD OUT ON, ON ALL OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES THAT, THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO OUR CUSTOMERS. 
          SO, UH, WE WILL AT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL AND, AND WE GET APPROVAL, YOU KNOW, WE WILL DIRECTLY ENGAGE ON, ON OUR ENGAGEMENT, UH, AND OUTREACH PLAN. 
          UH, DO WANNA TOUCH ON ACCOUNTABILITY. 
          UH, BEN, BEN MENTIONED THAT WE ARE CONTINUING, UH, THE ACCOUNTABILITY PROVISIONS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE ORDINANCE. 
          THOSE HAVE WORKED WELL. 
          UH, WE PROPOSE TO MAINTAIN THEM. 
          SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO DEVELOP, UH, PROVIDE QUARTERLY REPORTS WITH PARTICIPATION DATA FOR EACH OF THE PROGRAMS, MAPS THAT SHOW YOU WHERE THE PARTICIPANTS LIVE, BROKEN DOWN BY COUNCIL DISTRICT. 
          UH, WE WILL ALSO DELIVER THE ANNUAL REPORT, UH, USING A THIRD PARTY TO VALIDATE THE SAVINGS, UH, FOR EVERY PROGRAM. 
          AND, AND NOT JUST THE SAVINGS, BUT ALSO ARE WE BEING COST EFFECTIVE? ARE WE USING THE DOLLARS IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE? UH, SO THAT, UH, WE GET AS MUCH, UH, BANG FOR THE BUCK, UH, AS, AS WE GO FORWARD. 
          UH, THIS HAS BEEN A, A VERY GOOD PROCESS FOR US. 
          UH, RUDY MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE TWEAKED THE PROGRAMS ALONG THE WAY. 
          IN MANY CASES, THOSE TWEAKS HAVE BEEN THE RESULT OF THAT ANNUAL EVALUATION AND LEARNING. 
          YOU KNOW, CAN WE DO THINGS BETTER? YOU KNOW, ARE THERE, ARE THERE OTHER STRATEGIES? ARE THERE OTHER THINGS OTHER UTILITIES ARE DOING THAT WE SHOULD INCORPORATE INTO, INTO OUR PROGRAM? AND SO I THINK IT'S A HEALTHY PROCESS TO CONTINUE THOSE, THOSE ANNUAL REPORTS. 
          AND THEN, OF COURSE, AT YEAR THREE, WE WILL DO A FORMAL CHECK-IN, UH, WHERE WE WILL, YOU KNOW, FORMALLY EVALUATE, ARE, ARE WE ON TRACK? ARE, ARE, ARE THE GOALS STILL THE RIGHT GOALS? UH, AND, UH, AND, AND, AND, AND, UH, AND PRESENT THAT, UH, IN A, IN A FORMAL, UH, EVALUATION PROCESS. 
          SO, UM, I THINK I HAVE TWO SLIDES LEFT. 
          UH, WANNA MAKE SURE TO TALK ABOUT THE GOALS, YOU KNOW, SO WHAT ARE THE OUTCOMES? UH, WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT FROM THIS PROGRAM? UH, AND, AND WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS DETAIL THESE, UH, BY, BY CATEGORY. 
          AND SO I, I TALKED EARLIER ABOUT DEMAND REDUCTION, REDUCING THE NEED TO FOR ADDITIONAL CAPACITY. 
          UH, WHAT WE ARE, UH, COMMITTING HERE TO IS 410 MEGAWATTS OF INCREMENTAL DEMAND REDUCTION. 
          TO DATE, WE'VE SAVED 980 MEGAWATTS UNDER THE STEP PROGRAM. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE ANOTHER 410 MEGAWATTS. 
          AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT THAT IS A LARGE NUMBER. 
          THAT'S A, THAT'S ENOUGH POWER TO SERVE 82,000 HOMES. 
          UH, SO IT, IT'S NOT A SMALL GOAL. 
          AND I, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND. 
          WE, WE, WE BELIEVE THIS IS A VERY AGGRESSIVE GOAL, UH, BUT IT'S ALSO AN ATTAINABLE GOAL, UH, IN TERMS OF ENERGY SAVINGS. 
          WE ARE SETTING OUT A 1% GOAL, SO 1% ENERGY SAVINGS THAT'S IN RELATION TO OUR SALES. 
          AND SO WE PROPOSE TO DO THAT EVERY SINGLE YEAR. 
          SO 1% FOLLOWED BY 1% THE NEXT YEAR, AND IT REALLY BEGINS TO SNOWBALL, AND IT REALLY BECOMES A VERY SIGNIFICANT NUMBER, UH, WHICH ALSO THEN DRIVES THE EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. 
          AND WHAT WE'VE, WHAT WE BELIEVE THAT WILL LEAD TO IS 1.8 MILLION METRIC TONS OF AVOIDED CARBON. 
          UH, WE'VE CALLED OUT TARGETS FOR OUR EQUITY PROGRAMS. AND SO 16,000 HOMES THAT COULD, THAT, THAT WILL BE WEATHERIZED AND 20,000 MULTIFAMILY UNITS, UH, THAT WOULD BE WEATHERIZED UNDER THE NEW PROGRAM. 
          UM, AND THEN FINALLY, I WANNA TALK ABOUT THE BILL IMPACT. 
          UM, UH, WE'VE, WE HAVE, UH, SHARED THAT, UH, WE, UH, IN DESIGNING THE PROGRAM, WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD BUILD THIS IN A WAY THAT WOULD MINIMIZE, UH, ADDITIONAL COST TO OUR CUSTOMERS. 
          UH, AND SO $3 AND 50 CENTS A MONTH IS, UH, FOR A TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER, IS, IS WHAT THE BILL IMPACT IS. 
          UH, THAT REPRESENTS NO INCREMENTAL BILL IMPACT TO WHAT THEY PAY TODAY. 
          SO, UH, WE, WE WERE, UH, AND OUR BOARD WAS, UH, VERY, UH, COGNIZANT OF THE COST OF THE PROGRAM AND TRYING TO MINIMIZE THAT, UH, COST GOING FORWARD. 
          AND, AND AT THAT, AT THIS LEVEL, WE CAN DO THIS WITH NO INCREMENTAL COST. 
          THAT SAID, THE BENEFITS OVER TIME WILL OUTWEIGH THE COST. 
          AND, AND WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE, UH, IS, IS WE BELIEVE WE CAN ACHIEVE 665, UH, MILLION DOLLARS OF AVOIDED FUEL AND CAPACITY COSTS, WHICH REPRESENTS ALMOST A TWO FOR ONE RETURN ON INVESTMENT. 
          UH, AND, AND AGAIN, THE, THE PROGRAM TO DATE HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN THIS, IN THIS AREA OF, OF BEING COST EFFECTIVE. 
          AND WE BELIEVE WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT. 
          AND, AND WE WILL REPORT ON THAT, I GUESS IS THE OTHER POINT I WANNA MAKE, IS THAT EVERY YEAR WE WILL REPORT ON, ON THE COST EFFECTIVENESS AND THE, THE RETURN, UH, FROM THAT YEAR'S PROGRAM AS, AS WE GO FORWARD. 
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AND SO, FINALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, WE ARE HERE TO REQUEST APPROVAL. 
          UH, WE, UM, WE ARE ASKING FOR AUTHORIZATION TO RECOVER THE COSTS OF THE PROGRAMS THROUGH A FUEL SURCHARGE. 
          AGAIN, THAT IS AFTER THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN EVALUATED, UH, IN MANY CASES, THAT'S UP TO A YEAR AFTER, AFTER THE FUNDS HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN EXPENDED. 
          UH, BUT, UH, BUT WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT, THAT WE WILL DELIVER, UH, THE SAVINGS, UH, AS, AS, AS PROMISED. 
          UH, AND SO WITH THAT, ALSO AUTHORIZATION AGAIN, WE'LL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT A FIVE YEAR PROGRAM, $70 MILLION A YEAR, UH, WITH AN ESTIMATED, UH, TOTAL BUDGET OF $350 MILLION. 
          UH, AGAIN, WE'VE, WE'VE WRITTEN IN THE TARGETS 410 MEGAWATTS OF INCREMENTAL DEMAND REDUCTION, 1% ENERGY SAVINGS SYSTEM-WIDE, 16,000 WEATHERIZED HOMES, AND 20 20,000 MULTIFAMILY UNITS. 
          UH, AGAIN, A CHECK-IN AT YEAR THREE, UH, TO ENSURE THE PROGRAM IS ON TRACK, UH, AND CONTINUED ANNUAL REPORTING OF RESULTS BOTH TO OUR TRUSTEES AS WELL AS TO THE CITY AND THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, WITH ACCOUNTABILITY PROCEDURES, UH, IN PLACE. 
          UH, AND SO WITH THAT, UH, THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION. 
          AND, UH, WE, WE WELCOME YOUR QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU BOTH, UH, RUDY AND BEN FOR YOUR PRESENTATIONS. 
          AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GONNA HEAR FROM MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE. 
          WE'LL BEGIN WITH, UH, THE FIRST PERSON ON OUR LIST, CHRISTOPHER MAYORGA, FOLLOWED BY SHANNON MILLS, JUST IN TIME. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER MAGA. 
          I LIVE IN DISTRICT 10, AND I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL TO VOTE YES FOR FUNDING THE STEP PROGRAM. 
          THIS PROGRAM SAVES CUSTOMERS MONEY AND FURTHERS OUR CLIMATE GOALS IN TERMS OF RESILIENCY TO THE CHANGING CLIMATE, AND ALSO REDUCING EMISSIONS. 
          SOMETHING THAT I, UH, ALSO LEARNED RECENTLY IS THAT THE ALAMO AREA COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS ALSO HAS FUNDING FOR WEATHERIZATION. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS AND C P S TO MAKE SURE AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE ARE REACHED BY THIS PROGRAM. 
          AND THE CITY CAN ALSO BE DOING MORE TO IMPLEMENT THE CLIMATE ACTION AND ADAPTATION PLAN. 
          SCIENTISTS TELL US THAT WE NEED TO MOVE FAST TO AVOID THE WORST POSSIBLE OUTCOMES OF CLIMATE CHANGE. 
          I LIVE IN AN, AN APARTMENT AND I CAN'T PUT SOLAR ROOFED ON MY ROOF. 
          MANY HOMEOWNERS ALSO CAN'T PUT SOLAR ON THEIR ROOFS BECAUSE OF THEIR ROOF QUALITY OR THE LOCATION OF THEIR HOME. 
          SO BUILDING OUT MORE COMMUNITY SOLAR WOULD BE REALLY GREAT BECAUSE THEN WE WOULD HAVE MORE ACCESS TO CLEAN ENERGY AND THOSE SAVINGS OPPORTUNITIES. 
          THE CITY CAN ALSO FAST TRACK THE SOLAR PERMITTING PROCESS. 
          THE NATIONAL RENEWABLE ENERGY LABORATORY HAS INTRODUCED A FREE TOOL CALLED THE SOLAR AUTOMATED PERMITTING PROCESS. 
          INSTEAD OF TAKING MONTHS FOR THE PERMITTING PROCESS TO GO THROUGH, IT CAN BE DONE ONLINE IN A DAY. 
          THAT USER-FRIENDLY PROCESS COULD NOW BE ADOPTED BY ANY WILLING CITY, AND SOLAR COULD BE FASTER TO INSTALL TOMORROW. 
          ACCORDING TO SA GRIFFITH, AN ENGINEER AND INVENTOR WHO WAS AWARDED THE MACARTHUR GENIUS GRANT AND FOUNDER OF REWIRING AMERICA, MORE THAN HALF OF THE ENERGY NEEDED TO RUN AMERICA'S CARS AND HOUSEHOLDS COULD BE GENERATED ON THE ROOF OF ITS HOUSEHOLDS. 
          SO I ASK YOU ALL TO VOTE YES FOR THE STEP PROGRAM AND TO CONTINUE SUPPORTING CLEAN ENERGY THROUGH C P SS ENERGY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYORGA, SHANNON MILLS. 
          MS. MILLS, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY ANDREW BERTO. 
          HI, MY NAME IS SHANNON MILLS, OWNER OF B L C C SS AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND BUILDING OPTIMIZATION MECHANICAL AND ELECTRICAL CONTRACTING COMPANY. 
          I WANTED TO PROVIDE TESTAMENT ON HOW IMPORTANT THE C P S PROGRAM IS NOT ONLY FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES LIKE MYSELF, BUT ALSO COUNTLESS COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS, INCLUDING NONPROFITS THAT HELP OUR COMMUNITY'S MOST VULNERABLE CITIZENS. 
          IN 2017, I STARTED MY OWN BUSINESS FOCUSING PRIMARILY ON IMPROVING THE EFFICIENCY OF EXISTING BUILDINGS. 
          I REALLY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD MAKE AN IMPACTFUL DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND THE C P S EFFICIENCY AND CONSERVATION PROGRAM HELPS ME HELP MULTIPLE NONPROFITS AROUND THE CITY SAVE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN ENERGY SAVINGS THROUGH OPTIMIZING BUILDINGS AT NEARLY NO COST TO THEM. 
          SOME OF THE NONPROFITS THAT HAVE BENEFITED FROM THE C B S PROGRAM THAT I'VE WORKED WITH INCLUDE HAVEN FOR HOPE, TOBIN CENTER, MULTIPLE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, 
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MULTIPLE RELIGIOUS FACILITIES, AND LOTS OF OTHERS. 
          THE MONEY THEY SAVED ALLOWED THEM TO SPEND MONEY ON THEIR MISSION AND NOT ELECTRICITY THROUGH THE COMMERCIAL ENERGY AND DEMAND RESPONSE OFFERINGS. 
          MY COMPANY HAS SAVED OUR CLIENTS OVER $8 MILLION AND THREE MEGAWATTS PER DEMAND RESPONSE EVENTS PER YEAR, WHICH IS HUGE FOR THEM TO NOT HAVE TO SPEND IT ON ELECTRICITY. 
          OUTSIDE OF FINANCIAL SAVINGS, I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GROW MY BUSINESS FROM JUST MYSELF TO 20 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES. 
          WITH THE COST OF ENERGY INCREASING THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS FOR COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS IS ALSO INCREASING NON-PROFITS IN SAN ANTONIO FALL UNDER COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS. 
          I HOPE THE COUNCIL SEES THE VALUE AND VOTES TO PASS THE FUNDING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. MILLS. 
          ANDREW BERTO. 
          MR. VERTO, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY AARON BURNT. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AS A CONTRACTOR PARTICIPATING IN STEP, UH, MY COMPANY STARTED IN 2017. 
          UH, THAT FIRST YEAR I CONVERTED SEVERAL HUNDRED SMALL BUSINESSES, SWITCHING OUT OLD LIGHTING TO ENERGY EFFICIENT LIGHT, UH, L E D LIGHTING. 
          THE FOLLOWING YEAR, WE SWITCHED OUT ANOTHER FEW HUNDRED BUSINESSES AS WELL AS, UH, SEVERAL THOUSAND THERMOSTATS FOR BUSINESS OWNERS UTILIZING THIS FUNDING. 
          UH, THE LAST TWO YEARS, MY COMPANY ADDED IN THE WEATHERIZATION PROGRAMS AS WELL AS THE COOL SAVER PROGRAMS TO WHAT WE OFFER OUR CUSTOMERS. 
          SO I'VE SEEN FIRSTHAND JUST HOW COMBINING ALL OF THESE ENERGY EFFICIENCY PRODUCTS CAN REALLY WORK TOGETHER TO LOWER, UH, AND PROVIDE THE BIGGEST BANG FOR THE CUSTOMER'S BUCK. 
          I'VE SEEN WITH MY OWN EYES, JUST HOW MUCH MONEY THESE PROGRAMS CAN SAVE A BUSINESS. 
          UM, AND WE KNOW BASED ON CPSS REPORTING THAT 50% OF OUR BUILDINGS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO ARE 30 YEARS OR OLDER, AND THERE'S JUST NOT A LOT OF ENERGY EFFICIENCY GOING ON IN A BUILDING THAT OLD. 
          UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO COME HERE JUST TO, UH, ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE ITEM SIX SO THAT WE CAN HELP, UH, REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF ENERGY THAT C P S PRODUCES. 
          AND JUST TO STEAL A LINE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY'S WEBSITE, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO REDUCE BEFORE WE PRODUCE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. BURO. 
          AARON BURNT MR. BURNT. 
          YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY TABITHA OLA. 
          I'M AARON BURNT. 
          I HEAD UP ENERGY INDUSTRY PARTNERSHIPS AT GOOGLE, REPRESENTING OUR NEST THERMOSTAT BUSINESS. 
          MY TEAM WORKS CLOSELY WITH OUR PARTNERS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, HELPING ACCELERATE DEMAND SIDE MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS, AND HAS WORKED WITH C P SS ENERGY FOR MANY YEARS. 
          OUR THERMOSTATS CAN SAVE CUSTOMERS 10 TO 12% ON THEIR HEATING USAGE AND 15% ON THEIR AC USAGE, WHICH IN TEXAS, AS YOU KNOW, CAN BE A HUGE PART OF CUSTOMER'S MONTHLY BILLS. 
          RIGHT NOW, MANY OF OUR PARTNERS ARE REACHING OUT TO US TO HELP ACCELERATE THEIR PROGRAMS EVEN MORE WITH RISING GAS PRICES, NATURAL GAS PRICES, UM, REALLY LOOKING TO INFLUENCE AND LOWER THEIR CUSTOMER'S ENERGY BILLS, PARTICULARLY THE LOW TO MODERATE INCOME SEGMENT. 
          IN ADDITION TO DRIVING ENERGY EFFICIENCY, OUR THERMOSTATS CAN ENABLE DEMAND RESPONSE PROGRAMS WITH THE, WITHIN THE C P S PROGRAM. 
          THAT'LL BE ROUGHLY ONE TO 1.4 KW PER CUSTOMER ENROLLED, WHICH WHEN YOU MULTIPLY THAT BY THOUSANDS, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF CUSTOMERS CAN BE A BIG IMPACT TO THE GRID WHEN IT NEEDS IT THE MOST. 
          WE'VE BEEN RUNNING RESIDENTIAL DEMAND RESPONSE PROGRAMS SINCE 2013. 
          C P S WAS ONE OF OUR EARLIEST PARTNERS, AND HAS SINCE LAUNCHED ONE OF THE, UH, AN INCREDIBLE PORTFOLIO OF DEMAND RESPONSE PROGRAMS, WHICH IS DRIVING A TON OF BENEFIT TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND TO TEXAS MORE BROADLY. 
          THE STEP PROGRAM HAS BEEN A HUGE SUCCESS FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, ITS RESIDENTS AND ITS BUSINESSES HELPING TO COST EFFECTIVELY LOWER BILLS, AS WELL AS LOWERING RATES AND TRANSMISSION COSTS. 
          I URGE THE COUNCIL TO CONTINUE TO FUNDING STEP PROGRAM AND SUPPORT THE NEW TARGETS THAT ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S GOAL TO BE CARBON NEUTRAL BY 2050 WITHOUT EXTENDING FUNDING. 
          C P SS RISKS, NEEDING TO UNENROLL ALL OF ITS DEMAND RESPONSE ASSETS WOULD BE EFFECTIVELY BEING SHUTTERING THE CLEANEST POWER PLANT THAT IT HAS IN ITS PORTFOLIO. 
          WITH INCREASING RENEWABLE PENETRATION, THERE'S AN INCREASED 
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NEED FOR FLEXIBLE ASSETS ON THE GRID, AND THROUGH DEMAND RESPONSE, CUSTOMERS CAN BE A PART OF THAT SOLUTION AS WELL AS LOWERING THEIR MONTHLY BILLS AT THE SAME TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. BURNT TABITHA GUARDIOLA. 
          MS. GUARDIOLA, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY DAVID DREW. 
          OKAY. 
          MI HERE. 
          I'M CONCEDING MY TIME TO TABITHA AN GARCIA. 
          TABITHA, YOU'LL HAVE SIX MINUTES. 
          OKAY. 
          HELLO, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          AND, OR I GUESS AFTERNOON NOW. 
          UM, , IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS AGAIN, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          I'M TABITHA, AND THIS IS ANAQUA. 
          WE REPRESENT SOUTHWEST WORKERS UNION, AND WE ALSO REPRESENT OUR MEMBERS AND SOME SUPPORTERS LIVING IN THE INTERSECTIONS OF ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE. 
          WE ARE HERE TODAY TO CALL ON YOU TO KEEP FUNDING THE STEP PROGRAM AND TO THINK INNOVATIVELY IN IMPLEMENTATION OF THE FUTURE. 
          PROGRAMS LIKE STEP CREATES BILL SAVINGS FOR LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS BY GIVING THEM THE TOOLS TO USE LESS ENERGY OR TO USE ENERGY MORE EFFECTIVELY, EFFICIENTLY. 
          WE KNOW THAT THE CLIMATE CRISIS IS HERE, AND CITY LEADERS NEED TO TAKE ACTION NOW TO ADDRESS THE TRIPLE DIGIT TEMPERATURES ARE UNSTABLE GRID AND UNPRECEDENTED INFL INFLATION. 
          OUR HOME SHOULD BE THE SAFEST PLACE TO WEATHER A STORM, AND YET OUR MOST VULNERABLE NEIGHBORS DO NOT EVEN HAVE HOUSING AND ARE FORCED TO MIGRATE WITHIN THE CITY, GOING FROM ONE MAKESHIFT ENCAMPMENT TO ANOTHER TO SEEK SHELTER BEFORE POLICE AND CITY OFFICIALS EVICT THEM. 
          WEATHERING THE STORM IN WHAT WE CALL OUR HOMES, HAS BEEN SHOWN TO BE LIFESAVING IN THE TWO MOST DETRIMENTAL EVENTS SUCH AS C OVID 19 AND WINTER STORM URI. 
          THERE ARE MORE OF THESE CATASTROPHIC EVENTS COMING WITH THE DROP IN AIR QUALITY AND RISE IN TEMPERATURES. 
          HAVING 105 DEGREE WEATHER DAYS BEFORE WE'RE EVEN IN THE HIGH POINTS OF SUMMER, WE HAVEN'T SEEN MORE THAN ONE INCH OF RAIN IN OVER A HUNDRED DAYS. 
          THE SIGNS TO TAKE SHELTER AND MITIGATE THE CLIMATE CRISIS ARE ALL AROUND US. 
          RELI RESILIENCY HUBS ARE A GREAT LIFELINE TO OUR COMMUNITY, BUT IT IS CLEAR AS DAY THAT MOST CRISIS EVENTS WOULD BE BETTER WEATHERED AND FACED IN PLACES OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          PLACES THAT OUR COMMUNITY CALLS HOME. 
          I'M GONNA KIND OF PARAPHRASE SOME OF THIS. 
          IT'S A LITTLE EASIER TO COMMUNICATE THAT WAY. 
          AND SO WE'RE CALLING ON THE COMMUNITY TO DO THEIR EQUITABLE PART. 
          AND WE CAN'T JUST COUNT ON C P S FOR WEATHERIZATION RESOURCES. 
          WE NEED TO KNOW WHEN ARE WE GOING TO START PROVIDING MORE COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTIONS AND PREPAREDNESS PLANS FOR WEATHERIZATION. 
          SO I INVITE YOU TO ENVISION A CITY THAT TAKES CARE OF ITS MOST VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES, SO THAT THEY CAN BE, BECOME MORE RESILIENT AND CONTINUE TO THRIVE AMID UNCERTAIN AND CHALLENGING TIMES. 
          WE NEED TO BREAK DOWN THESE BARRIERS THAT DIVIDE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE MADE A COMMITMENT TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          WITH THIS IN MIND, WE CHALLENGE THE FUTURE OF STEP TO PROVIDE A MORE ROBUST AND COMPREHENSIVE WEATHERIZATION PROGRAM FOR THE COMMUNITY BY UNDERSTANDING OUR VULNERABLE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS AND WHAT RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM, AND PROVIDING THAT SO THAT THEY CAN WEATHER THESE STORMS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SW OR SOUTHWEST WORKERS UNION HAS SET OUT TO DO. 
          FOR THE PAST FOUR WEEKS, OUR CLIMATE PROGRAM HAS CREATED A PHONE BANKING, I'M SORRY, OUR CLIMATE COLLECTIVE PROGRAM HAS PHONE BANKERS THAT ARE CALLING DISTRICT TWO RESIDENTS ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE STEP PROGRAM AND HOW WE COULD POTENTIALLY WEATHERIZE AND SAVE THEM MONEY ON THEIR ENERGY BILLS. 
          IT IS CLEAR TO US THAT NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THE EXISTENCE OF THIS PROGRAM OR HOW TO SIGN UP. 
          ADDITIONALLY, PEOPLE FIND IT DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE THE DIGITAL, LITERARY AND TIME BARRIERS FACED BY HARDWORKING AND ON-THE-GO FAMILIES THAT MAKE UP A LOT OF SAN ANTONIO'S POPULATION. 
          WE BELIEVE THAT HELPING AND GUIDING FAMILIES THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS HIGHLY EFFECTIVE AND ENCOURAGES THEM TO TAKE PART IN THESE PROGRAMS THAT THEY DON'T FULLY TRUST OR UNDERSTAND. 
          AS OF NOW, WE'VE SENT OUT 150 MAILERS, AND 25 OF THESE MAILERS WERE PROVIDED TO SENIOR CITIZENS WITH THE RESOURCES TO SIGN UP FOR THE STEP PROGRAM. 
          AND ON SATURDAY, WE'LL BE HOSTING A CLINIC FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO RECEIVE FOOD ASSISTANCE AND SUPPORT THEM. 
          IN APPLYING FOR THE CASA VERDE AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS, WE CALL ON YOU TO CONTINUE TO FUND THE WEATHERIZATION PROGRAMS. AND WE ALSO CHALLENGE EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND THE URGENCY THE MOMENT IS CALLING FOR, AND COME TOGETHER TO FIND CREATIVE WAYS TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTIONS BY SUPPORTING GROUNDWORK TO REINVENT, REINVENT MODELS OF OUTREACH IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU, MS. GUDA. 
          DAVID DREW. 
          MR. DREW, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY BRIAN RAMIREZ. 
          MS. DAVID DREW, I WORK 
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WITHO. 
          WE'RE A COMPANY THAT'S BEEN, UM, SELLING RESIDENTIAL, UH, DEMAND RESPONSE SERVICES TO C P S ENERGY SINCE ABOUT 2016. 
          UH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 58 MEGAWATTS OF DEMAND RESPONSE CAPACITY UNDER MANAGEMENT, AND THAT'S COMING FROM AROUND 42,000 SMART THERMOSTATS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ENROLLED IN THEIR PROGRAM. 
          UM, JUST WANNA MAKE CLEAR THAT THESE, I'M SORRY, IT'S 58 MEGAWATTS, UM, OF DR. 
          RESOURCES THAT, THAT THEY EFFECTIVELY SERVE AS A CARBON FREE VIRTUAL POWER PLANT FOR C P S ENERGY. 
          UM, AND THIS IS ENTIRELY DUE TO THE STEP PROGRAM, UM, AND ENTIRELY DUE ALSO TO THE RATE PAYERS THAT HAVE MADE A SIGN SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT OVER THE PAST DECADE TO BUILD OUT THIS VIRTUAL POWER POWER PLANT. 
          UM, I'D LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO REITERATE JUST THE FOUR KEY BENEFITS THAT THE STEP PROGRAM AND REALLY SPECIFICALLY EVEN DEMAND RESPONSE HAS, UH, HAS DONE FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          UM, AND, YOU KNOW, IF THE BUDGET IS APPROVED, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE CONTINUING BENEFITS THAT WILL CONTINUE TO ACCRUE. 
          SO, UM, NUMBER ONE IS ENHANCED GRID RELIABILITY. 
          SO DEMAND RESPONSE HELPS KEEP THE POWER ON DURING GRID EMERGENCIES, SUCH AS, UH, EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS OR MAYBE A GENERATOR GOES DOWN. 
          UM, NUMBER TWO, LOWER RATES. 
          SO DEMAND RESPONSE HELPS C P S ENERGY REDUCE THEIR ENERGY PROCUREMENT COSTS, WHICH, UH, IS SHARED ACROSS, YOU KNOW, THE ENTIRE TERRITORY. 
          IT ALSO DEFERS THE NEED FOR BUILDING NEW PEAKING, UH, POWER PLANTS, UM, WHICH OBVIOUSLY COMES AT A GREAT EXPENSE AS WELL. 
          UH, NUMBER THREE IS CARBON EMISSION REDUCTION. 
          SO DEMAND RESPONSE IS HELPING C P S ENERGY TRANSITION TO RENEWABLES AND ACHIEVE THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S, UM, GOAL OF MOVING TO A CARBON NEUTRAL OR CARBON NEUTRALITY BY 2050. 
          AND IN FACT, I'D EVEN ARGUE THAT, UM, IT, IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO ACHIEVE CARBON NEUTRALITY WITHOUT DEMAND RESPONSE 'CAUSE IT'S ONE OF THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE AND CLEANEST MECHANISMS FOR OFFSETTING THE INTERMITTENCY THAT'S, UH, INEVITABLE WITH RENEWABLE GENERATION. 
          AND THEN FINALLY NUMBER FOUR IS LOWER ENERGY BILLS. 
          SO THE DEMAND RESPONSE PROGRAM INCENTIVES MAKE, UM, MADE, MADE AVAILABLE BY THE STEP PROGRAM ENABLE BROAD CUSTOMER ADOPTION OF SMART THERMOSTATS. 
          AND AS YOU JUST HEARD FROM GOOGLE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ENERGY SAVINGS AND COST SAVINGS THAT COME FROM THAT, OR ANYWHERE FROM, YOU KNOW, FIVE EVEN UP TO 30%, MAYBE 15% ON AVERAGE. 
          UH, SO YEAH. 
          SO WITH ALL THAT SAID, I URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONTINUE FUNDING CPS ENERGY'S DEMAND SIDE SAVINGS PROGRAMS, UH, NOT ONLY TO TO PRESERVE THIS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT RESOURCE IN SAN ANTONIO'S ENERGY TRANSITION, BUT TO GROW IT WHILE ALSO, UH, ENABLING RATE PAYERS TO FULLY REALIZE THE RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT THAT THEY'VE ALREADY MADE AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS EXCEPTIONALLY CLEAN VIRTUAL POWER PLANT. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. DREW. 
          BRIAN REMEZ. 
          MR. RAMIREZ, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY PATRICK ATWATER. 
          UH, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME. 
          UH, I TOO AM A CONTRACTOR THAT PARTICIPATES IN THE PROGRAM. 
          UM, AS I STATED IN THE LAST MEETING, UM, THE DECISION IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR NOT ONLY MY SMALL BUSINESS, BUT MANY OTHERS AS WELL. 
          IT'S GREAT TO SEE EVERYONE THAT IS SPEAKING TODAY, UM, BECAUSE YOUR DECISION DIRECTLY AFFECTS US AS A SMALL BUSINESS PARTICIPATING IN THE, IN THE PROGRAM. 
          UM, I ALSO WANTED TO REALLY REINFORCE AND LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT WE DO CONCENTRATE ON SCHOOLS AND NONPROFITS FOR THESE PROGRAMS AS WELL. 
          'CAUSE IT'S THROUGH THE PROGRAM. 
          SO WE'RE EVEN ABLE TO DO THAT, UM, SPECIFICALLY IN DISTRICTS 2, 3, 4, AND SIX THAT JUST NOW ARE STARTING THIS, THAT BIDDING PROCESS AND THE CONTINUATION OF THE PROGRAM WILL ENABLE US TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE, UH, CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM TO FURTHER THE, UM, IMPROVEMENT OF THE LIGHT IN THOSE, UH, DIFFERENT SCHOOLS AND NONPROFITS. 
          UM, I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID IN THE MEETING LAST TIME. 
          UM, ALL OF YOUR CONCERNS ARE MET WITH THE EXTENSION OF THE PROGRAM. 
          C P S HAS MOUNTAINS OF DATA, UH, TO PROVE THE VIABILITY OF THE REBATE PROGRAM. 
          BUT THERE ARE SO MANY, SO MANY OTHER, UH, POSITIVES THAT ARE A RESULT FROM THE PROGRAM. 
          UH, THESE INCLUDE HEALTH, UH, SECURITY VISIBILITY, LIGHT QUALITY, LOWER MAINTENANCE COSTS, AND OF COURSE THE LOWER MONTHLY BILL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. RAMIREZ. 
          PATRICK ATWATER. 
          MR. ATWATER, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY DIDI BEL. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          UM, MY NAME IS PATRICK ATWATER AND I'M THE FOUNDER AND C E O OF 180 SOLAR. 
          UH, WE ARE A FIRM THAT DEVELOPS CONSTRUCTS AND OPERATES COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL SCALE SOLAR POWER PLANTS. 
          UM, I'M HERE TO SHOW SUPPORT FOR THE CONTINUATION OF C P S ENERGY STEP PROGRAM. 
          AFTER ALL, IT'S THE WHOLE REASON I'M HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          WHEN LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO START OUR COMPANY, UH, WE DID A THOROUGH NATIONAL 
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SEARCH AND ULTIMATELY SETTLED ON SAN ANTONIO, A CITY THAT WE HAD NEVER VISITED BEFORE. 
          UH, WE CHOSE IT BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY OWNED ITS ELECTRIC UTILITY COMPANY AND IT HAD A FAVORABLE SOLAR REBATE PROGRAM. 
          WE WANTED TO HEADQUARTER THE COMPANY SOMEWHERE THAT WOULD HAVE A STRONG AND SUSTAINED SUPPORT FOR SOLAR ENERGY AND GIVE US THE BEST FOUNDATION TO NURTURE A NATIONAL BRAND. 
          OUR DECISION WAS THE RIGHT ONE. 
          EIGHT YEARS LATER, WE'VE WORKED WITH MANY BUSINESSES AND NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS THE CITY TO HELP THEM SAVE MONEY BY GENERATING CARBON AND POLLUTION FREE ENERGY. 
          I KNOW WE'RE JUST ONE OF MANY SUCCESS STORIES THAT PROVES STEP, UM, AS A SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM, CREATING A DYNAMIC MARKETPLACE FOR SOLAR ENERGY AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY PRODUCTS THAT CONTINUES TO ATTRACT TALENT FROM AROUND THE WORLD TO OUR COMMUNITY. 
          CONTINUING STEP IS A SMART INVESTMENT FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 
          EVERY DOLLAR SPENT ON A SOLAR REBATE TRIGGERS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO KICK IN TWO AND A HALF TO $5 IN TAX INCENTIVES AND INDIVIDUALS AND ORGANIZATIONS INVEST ANOTHER FOUR TO $6. 
          THAT $1 INVESTMENT GENERATED $10 IN ECONOMIC ACTIVITY, THE MAJORITY OF WHICH STAYS IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          ON TOP OF THE INITIAL ECONOMIC ACTIVITY OF CONSTRUCTING THESE PROJECTS, THERE'S EVEN MORE VALUE GENERATED OVER DECADES OF ENERGY SAVINGS THAT GOES BACK INTO PEOPLE'S POCKETS AND LOWERS ORGANIZATION'S OVERHEAD EXPENSES, WHICH WE ALL KNOW EVENTUALLY WORKED ITS WAY BACK INTO OUR LOCAL ECONOMY. 
          WITH SUPPLY CHAIN CHALLENGES AND SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN MATERIAL COSTS, THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A MORE CRITICAL TIME TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE LOCAL SOLAR INDUSTRY BY EXTENDING THE STEP PRO STEP PROGRAM, WE WANT TO CONTINUE, WE WANT SAN ANTONIO TO LEAD THE WORLD IN DEVELOPING THE ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE FUTURE. 
          AND THE STEP AND STEP IS CRITICAL INVESTMENT TOWARDS THAT MISSION. 
          THANKS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MR. ATWATER DEI S BE FOLLOWED BY ANTONIO TAYLOR. 
          GOOD. 
          A GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          MY NAME IS DEI BEL MARES. 
          I'M A CLIMATE JUSTICE ORGANIZER WITH PUBLIC CITIZEN. 
          I'M HERE ASKING CITY COUNCIL TO VOTE YES ON THE STEP PROGRAM. 
          THIS IS A GOOD PROGRAM THAT C P SS ENERGY HAS DEVELOPED AND IT'S PROVEN TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN REDUCING DEMAND, SAVING CUSTOMERS MONEY ON THEIR BILLS, AND HAVE KEPT US FROM BUILDING ANOTHER POWER PLANT. 
          AS THE RATE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND C P S ENERGY, CONSIDER THE RETIREMENT OF THE SPRUCE COAL PLANT AND CONSIDERING THE VOLATILITY OF GAS PRICES THESE DAYS, WE NEED MORE FOCUS AND FUNDING FOR ENERGY EFFICIENCY. 
          THIS PROGRAM HAS HELPED PEOPLE WHO NEED IT THE MOST WEATHERIZE THEIR HOMES. 
          I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT IT'S HOT OUTSIDE, DANGEROUSLY HOT FOR SENIOR CITIZENS, THE POOR PEOPLE WITH CHRONIC HEALTH ISSUES, THESE VULNERABLE RESIDENTS ARE TOLD TO RAISE THE THERMOSTAT TO 78 DEGREES IN TRIPLE DIGIT TEMPS. 
          BUT MONTH IN AND MONTH OUT, THEY STRUGGLE TO KEEP THEIR LIGHTS ON. 
          PLEASE HELP THEM, BUT DON'T JUST ASK, UH, BUT DON'T JUST VOTE. 
          YES, YES. 
          ASK C B S ENERGY HOW STEP FUNDS WILL BE USED FOR LOW INCOME CUSTOMERS. 
          THERE'S $59 MILLION IN POTENTIAL NEW OR WHAT THEY CALL FUTURE PROGRAMS. MAKE SURE THAT THE MONEY GOES TO THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT THE MOST, AND THERE IS A PLAN TO PROACTIVELY TARGET THESE CUSTOMERS WHO WILL BENEFIT FROM IT. 
          AND PLEASE DON'T LET THEM ELIMINATE THE SOLAR REBATES FOR ROOFTOP SOLAR. 
          ONE OF THE TESTS OF THE STEP ANALYSIS SHOWED THAT THIS IS COST EFFECTIVE IF WE'RE GOING TO REACH OUR, OUR CLIMATE ACTION AND ADAPTATION PLAN TARGETS AND SAN ANTONIO IS NOWHERE, UH, NEAR DOING THAT. 
          WE NEED EVERY RESOURCE TO REDUCE DEMAND, TO REDUCE EMISSIONS FOR THE, FOR A MORE SUSTAINABLE CITY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. BELMANS. 
          ANTONIO TAYLOR. 
          HELLO, MY NAME'S ANTONIO TAYLOR AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING SUNRISE SAN ANTONIO AND OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UH, MOVING TO SAN ANTONIO, I DIDN'T EXPECT TO BE FACING DE DE DEBILITATING HEAT, ESPECIALLY COMING FROM EL PASO, TEXAS. 
          UM, OVER THE LAST MONTH WE HAVE SEEN RECORD BREAKING HEAT THAT RIVALS AND SOMETIME IS HOTTER, UM, THAN THE DESERT, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT. 
          UM, THE CLIMATE CRISIS IS HERE AND WE NO LONGER HAVE TIME FOR AN ACTION. 
          WE NEED TO FUND THE STEP PROGRAM AT $70 MILLION, WHICH WILL HELP THOUSANDS OF FAMILY HOMES AND MULTI-FAMILY HOMES WITH WEATHERIZATION AND NECESSARY UPGRADES. 
          WITHOUT THESE MEASURES, WE MUST HELP OUR MOST VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES WILL FACE THE FULL IMPACT OF RISING TEMPERATURES AND EXTREME WEATHER CHANGES. 
          THE STEP PROGRAM HAS WORKED FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND THE SAN THE SAN ANTONIO CITY COUNCIL HAS OPPORTUNITY TO FUND IT. 
          THE COST OF FUNDING STEP IS NOTHING COMPARED TO THE DAMAGE THAT COULD BE DONE IF WE DON'T CHOOSE TO FULLY PROTECT EACH OTHER. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND I HOPE YOU CONSIDER FUNDING THIS STEP PROGRAM AT ITS FULL CAPACITY. 
          THANK YOU, MS. TAYLOR, HECTOR 
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MARTINEZ. 
          MR. MARTINEZ, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY LILLIAN WHITE. 
          THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. 
          AND GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BEFORE YOU TODAY. 
          MY NAME IS HECTOR MARTINEZ. 
          I'M THE DIRECTOR OF CONSTRUCTION SERVICES AND SUSTAINABILITY FOR THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING AUTHORITY. 
          I'M PLEASED TO BE HERE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF CPS ENERGY'S NEW ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROGRAM. 
          SAHA IS COMMITTED TO OUR MISSION OF PROVIDING QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO LOW INCOME SENIOR AND FAMILY COMMUNITIES AND FOR SERVICES BENEFITS SUCH AS FOOD DISTRIBUTION AND YOUTH SCHOLARSHIPS. 
          BUT DID YOU KNOW THAT SAHA IS RECOGNIZED AS A NATIONAL LEADER IN ENERGY AND WATER EFFICIENCY? FOR EXAMPLE, IN 2014, SAHA PARTICIPATED IN THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY'S BETTER BUILDINGS CHALLENGE AN INITIATIVE THROUGH WHICH PARTICIPANTS SUCH AS SCHOOL DISTRICTS, BUSINESSES AND MUNICIPALITIES COMMIT TO ENERGY AUDITS AND BENCHMARKING EXISTING ENERGY USAGE. 
          THEN THROUGH CONSERVATION MEASURES, ACHIEVE SIGNIFICANT REDUCTIONS IN CONSUMPTION. 
          IN 2016, SA HA'S SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAMS. MANAGER AND I WERE INVITED TO THE WHITE HOUSE FOR A ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION ON ENERGY OPPORTUNITIES FOR LOW-INCOME FAMILIES. 
          AND IN 2018, SAHA WAS RECOGNIZED BY BUILD SAN ANTONIO GREEN FOR ACHIEVING MORE THAN A MILLION SQUARE FEET OF CERTIFIED GREEN SPACE. 
          I AM EXCITED TO WORK WITH VS A C NOW TO FIND OUT WHAT THAT NUMBER IS TODAY, AS SAHA HAS CODIFIED OUR GOALS OF ACHIEVING B SAG CERTIFICATION ON ALL RETROFIT AND NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. 
          HOWEVER, I AM HERE TODAY TO ADVOCATE FOR C P S AND THEIR NEW ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROGRAM. 
          FOR MANY YEARS, SAHA HAS PARTICIPATED IN CP S'S WEATHERIZATION PROGRAMS, SOLAR PROGRAMS, AND REBATE OPPORTUNITIES, OF WHICH SAHA RECENTLY RECEIVED A SUBSTANTIAL REBATE THAT WILL BE REINVESTED DIRECTLY BACK INTO OUR COMMUNITIES. 
          AND UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF OUR C E O ED HINOJOSA JR. 
          SAHA IS PREPARING TO TRANSITION TO AN ALL ELECTRIC FLEET AND WILL WORK WITH C P S TO PROVIDE VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS. 
          FINALLY, SA HA'S DATA SHARING AGREEMENT WITH C P SS HAS BEEN CRUCIAL IN BENCHMARKING AND MEASURING THE EFFECTIVENESS OF ENERGY REDUCTION PROGRAMS. I URGE THE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS IMPORTANT PROGRAM. 
          AS WE ALL KNOW, THE AVAILABILITY OF ABUNDANT, OF ABUNDANT, RELIABLE AND CLEAN ENERGY HAS NEVER BEEN MORE IMPORTANT. 
          WE ARE PROUD THAT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS RECOGNIZED AS A LEADER AND ROLE MODEL, NOT JUST HERE IN TEXAS, BUT NATIONWIDE. 
          WE NEED TO SUPPORT OUR PUBLIC UTILITIES AND THE LIFESAVING SERVICES AND RESOURCES THEY PROVIDE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MARTINEZ. 
          LILLIAN WHITE, MS. WHITE. 
          YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY ISABELLA NIETO. 
          HELLO, Y'ALL. 
          MY NAME IS LILLIAN WHITE. 
          I'M A REPRESENTATIVE OF SUN MOVEMENT AND A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT, RESIDENT OF DISTRICT EIGHT. 
          AND I'M HERE TO URGE YOU TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF FULLY FUNDING STEP THE SAFER TOMORROW ENERGY PLAN. 
          WHENEVER A PROPOSAL ARISES THAT NEEDS FUNDING, ESPECIALLY IN THE AMOUNT OF 350 MILLION, THERE ARE REASONABLE CONCERNS AS TO WHERE THAT MONEY WILL COME FROM. 
          AS REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PEOPLE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE IMPACT POTENTIAL COSTS INCREASES HAVE ON THEIR CONSTITUENTS, ESPECIALLY THE LOWER INCOME CUSTOMERS OF C P S ENERGY. 
          HOWEVER, GIVEN THE RESULTS OF THE UTILITY RATE INCREASED VOTE THAT HAPPENED EARLIER THIS YEAR WITHOUT ADDRESSING THE NEED FOR A REFORMED RATE STRUCTURE, IT SEEMS THE ONLY MEMBERS WITH A VALID CLAIM TO THIS CONCERN ARE COUNCIL PEOPLE, TERRY CASTILLO, JAYLEN MCKEE RODRIGUEZ, AND CLAYTON PERRY. 
          AND WE THANK Y'ALL FOR THAT. 
          LUCKILY, THE REST OF Y'ALL NOW GET ANOTHER CHANCE TO DO RIGHT BY THE PEOPLE. 
          WE ARE RELYING ON Y'ALL TO CONTINUE FUNDING SEP AND ENSURE THAT C P S ENERGY DEDICATES AT LEAST 30% OF RESIDENTIAL ENERGY EFFICIENCY DOLLARS. 
          IN FUTURE PROGRAMS TO LOW OR MODERATE INCOME CUSTOMERS CONSIDER WHAT AN ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROGRAM COULD DO TO HELP STRUGGLING SANTON BECAUSE OF THE VOLATILITY OF GAS PRICES, UTILITY BILLS FOR C V S ENERGY CUSTOMERS ARE 20% HIGHER THAN LAST YEAR. 
          PROGRAMS LIKE STEP DECREASE LOCAL UTILITY DEMAND, REDUCE STRESS ON THE GRID AND DECREASE THE FINANCIAL BURDEN ON RESIDENTS. 
          SOLAR REBATES ARE AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT PART OF THIS. 
          ROOFTOP SOLAR CREATES THE MOST LOCAL JOBS AS LESS ENVIRONMENTALLY DETRIMENTAL AND IS THE MOST BENEFICIAL TO RESIDENTS. 
          OF THE 980 MEGAWATT SAVINGS ACHIEVED FROM STEP 25% CAME FROM SOLAR. 
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NOW WHILE WE'RE ON THE SUBJECT OF SAVING MEGAWATTS, LET'S CELEBRATE THE FACT THAT THE ORIGINAL STEP PROGRAM REDUCED ENERGY DEMAND SO MUCH THAT THE CITY AVOIDED HAVING TO BUILD ANOTHER POWER PLANT COMMUNITY AND ROOFTOP SOLAR ENCOURAGING ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND DEMAND RESPONSE ARE INTEGRAL IN REDUCING OUR DEPENDENCE ON NATURAL GAS AS A POWER SOURCE. 
          SO WHY ARE WE SPENDING FUNDS ON SUBSIDIZING HARMFUL GAS POWERED APPLIANCES WHEN WE COULD JUST SHUT DOWN THE SPRUCE COLD PLANT? EVENTUALLY. 
          NOW IT IS FREEZING IN HERE, BUT MOST SAN ANTONIO RESIDENTS CANNOT AFFORD THIS THERMOSTATIC EXTRAVAGANCE. 
          WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT THE WEATHER THIS SUMMER HAS BEEN CONSISTENTLY IN THE TRIPLE DIGITS BY HELPING HIGH ENERGY BURDEN CUSTOMERS WEATHERIZE THEIR HOMES. 
          A FULLY FUNDED STEP PROGRAM WOULD HELP KEEP RESIDENTS HOMES COOLER IN THE SUMMER AND WARMER IN THE WINTER. 
          RUNNING FOR CITY COUNCIL IS A DECLARATION THAT YOU WILL DO EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN TO KILL TO KEEP YOUR CONSTITUENTS SAFE AND HEALTHY AS TEMPERATURES CONTINUE TO RISE. 
          FAILING TO AID IN THE AFFORDABLE WEATHERIZATION OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS HOUSES WOULD BE A DEATH SENTENCE FOR TOO MANY SAN ANTONIANS FULLY FUNDING THE SAFE FOR TOMORROW ENERGY PLAN IS AN IMPORTANT STEP IN ENSURING THE SAFETY, HEALTH, AND FINANCIAL SECURITY FOR SAN ANTONIO'S MOST VULNERABLE RESIDENCE. 
          THANK Y'ALL FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU MS. WHITE. 
          ISABELLA NIETO. 
          ISABELLA NIETO. 
          ALRIGHT, WELL, WE'RE GONNA MOVE RIGHT INTO DISCUSSION. 
          UH, SO TO GET US STARTED, LET ME, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER SIX. 
          ALL RIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION. 
          DID I HEAR A SECOND, SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER SIX. 
          UM, SO FIRST OF ALL, LET ME THANK, UH, FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN SPEAKING OUT ON THIS ISSUE FOR WHAT SEEMS LIKE ABOUT SEVEN YEARS. 
          UH, BECAUSE WE STARTED THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO FORMULATE A, A NEXT STEP OR STEP TWO, OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, PROGRAM TOWARDS THE END OF THE PREVIOUS STEP. 
          AS WE NOTED THE SUCCESS OF THE PREVIOUS STEP PROGRAM, UH, FAR EXCEEDED EARLY EXPECTATIONS. 
          IN FACT, I I SEE HERE THAT, UH, THE INITIAL GOAL WAS ROUGHLY 741, 771, UH, MEGAWATTS OF SAVINGS TO AVOID AGAIN, THE COST OF BUILDING A POWER PLANT AND ALSO PUT THAT SAVINGS AND DEMAND, UH, INTO THE HANDS OF OUR RESIDENTS, OUR RATE PAYERS, AND ACHIEVE THAT, IN FACT, BLEW PAST THAT GOAL WITH 980 MEGAWATTS IN TOTAL SAVINGS. 
          WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PROGRAM SO THAT WE CAN BUILD A PROGRAM THAT'S MUCH MORE EQUITABLE. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE SOLAR DISTRIBUTION, FOR INSTANCE, ONE OF THE GREAT BENEFITS OF THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN INCREASED USE OF SOLAR IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UM, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT BENEFIT HASN'T FALLEN EQUITABLY ACROSS OUR COMMUNITY. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT A DENSITY MAP OF WHERE SOLAR BENEFIT HAS BEEN MOST FELT, IT'S IN UNFORTUNATELY, UM, IT'S GREAT, BUT IT'S ALSO IN THE HIGHEST INCOME AREAS WITH VIRTUAL, UM, DARK SPOTS IN TERMS OF DENSE, UH, OF ADOPTION RATES WITHIN OUR SOUTHERN, WESTERN AND EASTERN SECTOR. 
          THAT'S THE PART WE NEED TO CHANGE. 
          WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO MAKE OUTREACH TO, UH, LOWER INCOME COMMUNITIES, UH, AGING HOUSING STOCK, AND CAN BEST BENEFIT FROM THE WEATHERIZATION AND OTHER, UH, BASIC TECHNOLOGIES THAT CAN HELP REDUCE THE COST AND THE ENERGY COST BURDEN THAT HOUSEHOLDS ARE FACING. 
          I'M GLAD TO SAY THAT, UH, THROUGH A LOT OF WORK THAT THE STAFF HAS DONE ALONG WITH COMMUNITY AND THE SEVERAL STUDIES THAT WERE CONDUCTED ON THE PREVIOUS STEP, WE, WE HAVE ACHIEVED A PROGRAM THAT I THINK WILL DO THAT. 
          I'M GLAD TO SEE RUDY, THAT, UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE THAT FOR GRANTED. 
          WE'RE GONNA COME BACK TO THE BOARD. 
          I THINK WE'RE GONNA COME BACK TO THE M U C AS WELL ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, UH, TO MAKE TWEAKS AS NECESSARY TO EVALUATE THE PROGRAM AS IT'S BEING IMPLEMENTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ACHIEVING THE OUTCOMES THAT WE WANT, WHICH AGAIN, ARE ROOTED IN ENSURING THAT THIS WAS AN AS A MORE EQUITABLE PROGRAM WHILE WE'RE ALSO ACHIEVING THE SYSTEM-WIDE GOALS OF ENERGY SAVINGS. 
          UM, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION TODAY. 
          UH, THAT BEING SAID, THIS IS A RATIFICATION VOTE. 
          IT COMES TO THE COUNCIL AS A, UH, AS A PRESENTED ITEM FROM THE C P SS BOARD IN TERMS OF AUTHORIZED FUNDING. 
          SO THERE WON'T BE ANY AMENDMENTS ON THE ITEM TODAY. 
          BUT NOTE THAT ALL THE DISCUSSION IN TERMS OF ENHANCEMENTS TO THE PROGRAM, THINGS THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR WILL BE NOTED FOR THE RECORD AND THAT WE'LL MAKE THAT AS PART OF THE EVALUATION AS WE GO THROUGHOUT THE, THE NEXT YEAR AND THE, AND THE YEARS FORWARD. 
          SO AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYBODY FOR YOUR INPUT IN THIS PROCESS. 
          I THINK WE'VE GOT A, A, A STRONG PATH FORWARD AND I FULLY ENDORSE IT. 
          WE'LL GET TO CONVERSATION NOW. 
          WE'LL START WITH, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          BRAVO. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, I WANNA START OFF BY STATING THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS ISSUE LONGER THAN C P SS ENERGY HAS. 
          22 YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS A UT STUDENT 
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IN AUSTIN, I WORKED FOR AUSTIN ENERGY AS AN INTERN AND SHOUT OUT TO MATTIA IMELDA WHO HELPED GET, HELPED ME GET THAT JOB. 
          UH, IT WAS A GREAT FIT FOR ME, AND I WORKED ON RESEARCHING AND PROMOTING, UH, ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND BUILDING TECHNOLOGY. 
          I WAS PART OF A STAFF OF 13. 
          AND, UM, THE JUSTIFICATION FOR AUSTIN ENERGY, PAYING THAT STAFF OF 13 TO WORK ON THAT ISSUE WAS THAT IT WOULD PREVENT THEM FROM HAVING TO BUILD ANOTHER FOSSIL FUEL, UM, POWER PLANT. 
          AND SO INSTEAD OF, THEY KNEW THEIR CITY WAS GROWING, BUT INSTEAD OF INCREASING THE ENERGY SUPPLY, THEY COULD WORK ON REDUCING THE DEMAND THROUGH ENERGY EFFICIENCY. 
          AND IT WAS A GREAT CONCEPT AND I BOUGHT INTO IT. 
          AND THEN I, YOU KNOW, AFTER I GRADUATED, I CAME BACK TO SAN ANTONIO AND AROUND 2008 OR 2009, UH, C C P S ENERGY DECIDED THEY WANTED TO BUILD A NEW COAL PLANT. 
          IT WAS THE SPRUCE TWO PLANT THAT THEY BUILT IN 2010. 
          AND SO I JOINED KAREN HADDEN FROM THE SEED COALITION AND TC CALVERT FROM NEIGHBORHOOD FIRST ALLIANCE. 
          AND WE ALL WENT TO A C P S ENERGY BOARD MEETING TO TELL 'EM, NO, NO, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER COAL PLANT. 
          AND, UH, I SPOKE TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES BACK THEN AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, LOOK WHAT AUSTIN'S DOING. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ACTUALLY INVEST IN ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND REDUCE THE, THE, THE COMMUNITY'S DEMAND INSTEAD OF INCREASING THE SUPPLY. 
          NOW, SHORTLY AFTERWARD, C P S ENERGY BUILT THE COAL PLANT. 
          SHORTLY AFTERWARD, THEY STARTED THE STEP PROGRAM. 
          I DON'T THINK I CAN TAKE ANY, I THINK MY COMMENTS FELL ON DEAF EARS THAT DAY. 
          I DON'T THINK I CAN TAKE ANY CREDIT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE, THE ORIGINAL STEP PROGRAM. 
          UM, BUT YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS A LONG TIME. 
          LATER ON AFTER GRAD SCHOOL, I STARTED WORKING FOR ENVIRONMENTAL DEFENSE FUND. 
          I CAME BACK TO AUSTIN, I MEAN, TO, TO SAN ANTONIO AGAIN. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THEN I, I WORKED, UM, I SERVED AS THE CHAIR OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL STAKEHOLDERS MEETING WITH C P S ENERGY SENIOR STAFF QUARTERLY. 
          AND WE KNEW THAT THIS ORIGINAL STEP PROGRAM WAS COMING TO AN END. 
          IT WAS, WE KNEW IT WAS A 10 YEAR AUTHORIZED PROGRAM, AND THREE TIMES OVER 18 MONTHS, I SUBMITTED IN WRITING REQUESTS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THIS NEW PROGRAM COULD LOOK LIKE. 
          AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE DIDN'T HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND, AND C P S ENERGY CAME AND THEY JUST EXTENDED THE OLD PRAC PROGRAM OVER AND OVER AGAIN. 
          I'M GLAD WE'RE LOOKING AT FINALLY LOOKING AT, UM, UPDATING THIS PROGRAM. 
          UM, AND WHAT, WHAT I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN SEEING IS WHEN IT COMES TO WEATHERIZATION AND WHEN IT COMES TO ENERGY EFFICIENCY, RESIDENTIAL ENERGY EFFICIENCY, I WANT SOMETHING THAT IS TARGETED TO LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES. 
          UM, I WANT SOMETHING THAT'S DATA DRIVEN TO PRIORITIZE THE HIGHEST ENERGY USERS, UM, AND WITHIN THOSE LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES. 
          AND I WANT THIS TO BE PROACTIVE BECAUSE IF C P S ENERGY DOES A GREAT JOB OF LETTING EVERYBODY KNOW THAT THESE PROGRAMS EXIST AND, AND WE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS HELP YOU WITH THAT, AND YOU PUT THAT OUT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND PEOPLE CAN GO TO ONE OF YOUR OFFICES OR PEOPLE CAN GO ON YOUR WEBSITE AND THEY CAN APPLY, THAT'S STILL PASSIVE, THAT'S STILL THEM HAVING TO INITIATE, RIGHT? AND SO I REALLY WANT IT TO BE PROACTIVE. 
          WELL, YOU ALL WOULD BE KNOCKING ON PEOPLE'S DOORS, CALLING THEM AND SAYING, HEY, GOING INTO LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES AND SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW, DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU USE MORE ENERGY THAN 90% OF YOUR NEIGHBORS AND WE HAVE THIS FREE PROGRAM AND WE CAN SIGN YOU UP RIGHT NOW. 
          AND SO THAT WILL HELP REDUCE EMISSIONS EVEN MORE PER DOLLAR THAT WILL HELP INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE, UH, MOST ECONOMICALLY BURDENED BY, BY THEIR ENERGY BILLS. 
          UM, AND IT'S, I WANNA TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE BECAUSE WE JUST VOTED ON HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS AND WE, WE VOTED ON HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS BECAUSE I'M FOR SENIOR CITIZENS, FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE HAVE DISABILITIES. 
          AND FOR, FOR HOMEOWNERS, WE HAVE NO TOOLS TO HELP RENTERS. 
          WE HAVE NO TOOLS TO HELP SPECIFICALLY HELP LOW INCOME PEOPLE. 
          BUT THIS PROGRAM IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR US TO DO THAT. 
          AND IN A WAY, YOUR C P SS ENERGY BILL IS IN LIEU OF A TAX BECAUSE C P S ENERGY CONTRIBUTES ABOUT $350 MILLION A YEAR TO OUR GENERAL FUND. 
          SO IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT FROM PEOPLE'S C P S ENERGY BILLS, THEN INSTEAD WE 
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WOULD EITHER INCREASE YOUR PROPERTY TAXES BY $350 MILLION, OR WE WOULD CUT YOUR SERVICES BY $350 MILLION. 
          AND SO THIS IS OUR TOOL AS POLICY MAKERS TO REALLY FOCUS ON LOW INCOME PEOPLE AND BE TARGETED AND, AND DATA DRIVEN. 
          AND, AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN SEEING. 
          AND WE'VE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS. 
          THIS IS, I BROUGHT THIS UP AT THE, RIGHT AFTER I GOT ELECTED AT MY VERY FIRST MEETING WITH C P SS ENERGY, I BROUGHT THIS UP AND I HAVE SEEN SOME MOVEMENT, NOT AS MUCH AS I'D LIKE TO, BUT I AM, I'M HEARING, UH, IT SEEMS LIKE YOUR PRESENTATION HAS BEEN MODIFIED AS WE'VE CONTINUED TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS, UM, SO THAT YOU'RE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION. 
          UM, BUT I'M INTERESTED IN KNOWING NEW PROGRAMS, 59.9 MILLION. 
          I MEAN, WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M PROPOSING THAT YOU ALL DO IS A LITTLE BIT OF A NEW PROGRAM, AND I'M WONDERING IF ANY OF THAT COULD BE APPLIED BECAUSE I REALLY WANT MORE FUNDING TO GO TOWARDS LOW INCOME, UH, CUSTOMERS. 
          AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING, IS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE APPLIED IN YOUR VIEW? UH, YES. 
          AND IN YOUR QUESTION ABOUT WHAT IS IN THE NEW PROGRAMS, UH, THAT ENCOMPASSES, UH, SOME OF THE NEW LOW INCOME PROGRAMS THAT, THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, THE, THE, THE MULTIFAMILY WEATHERIZATION, THE, THE, THE L M I, THE, WE CALLED IT RETAIL DISCOUNTS. 
          UH, SO THOSE ARE ENCOMPASSED IN, IN THAT 59, IN THE $59 MILLION. 
          AND, AND THERE WILL BE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE, WE DEVELOP. 
          UH, SO AGAIN, THE 28% THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS THE OVERALL FUNDING FOR L M I IS IS A STARTING POINT. 
          UH, WE, WE THINK WE, WE CAN POTENTIALLY DO MORE. 
          GOT IT. 
          UM, SO ANOTHER, THERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE HERE. 
          AND THIS FALLS ON THE CITY. 
          THIS DOESN'T FALL ON C P S ENERGY AND IT'S, I, I BELIEVE, UM, AND MAYBE YOU CAN CONFIRM THIS, THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SITUATIONS WHERE C P S ENERGY HAS GONE IN AND THEY'VE APPROACHED, UH, LOW INCOME CUSTOMERS AND THEY'VE WANTED TO DO SOME ENERGY EFFICIENCY UPGRADES, BUT THE HOUSE DID NOT MEET CITY CODE. 
          WHAT DO YOU DO IN THAT CASE? THERE, THERE ARE INSTANCES, UH, AND, AND WE PULLED SOME DATA ON REASONS WHY CUSTOMERS ARE DISQUALIFIED. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, SO, SO THEY APPLY FOR THE PROGRAM AND, AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO, TO HAVE THEIR HOME WEATHERIZED, UH, THE MAJORITY OF CASES. 
          THAT IS BECAUSE THERE IS AN ISSUE, UH, WITH, WITH THE HOME. 
          IT COULD BE A, A LEAKY ROOF. 
          UH, IT COULD BE A, A STOVE THAT, UH, UH, MAYBE IS EMITTING TOO MUCH C O TWO. 
          UH, AND, AND SO CONSEQUENTLY, UH, OR, OR THERE MAY BE AN ELECTRICAL ISSUE. 
          UH, AND SO CONSEQUENTLY, THE HOME IS NOT ABLE TO BE WEATHERIZED AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT PARTNERSHIPS, UH, OR FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES, UH, THAT, THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY WHERE IF, IF WE COULD HAVE ACCESS TO, UH, EITHER GRANT FUNDS OR, UH, OR THROUGH THE PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, $500 IN, IN SOME CASES WOULD RE WOULD RESOLVE THAT ISSUE FOR THE CUSTOMER AND THEN MAKE THE HOME ELIGIBLE FOR, FOR THE PROGRAM. 
          SO WE, WE FIND THAT THOSE ARE THE, THE BIGGEST BARRIERS TO PARTICIPATION. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UH, CODE WISE, UM, THEY'RE, THAT'S OCCASIONALLY THAT HAPPENS. 
          UH, BUT IT, IT'S NOT, UH, IT'S NOT AS BIG AN ISSUE AS THE, THE MINOR REPAIRS THAT THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA HAVE A COUPLE ASK OF MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES UP HERE. 
          AND YOU KNOW, ONE IS, I THINK WE CAN'T LET CITY POLICY GET IN THE WAY OF US BEING ABLE TO HELP A LOW INCOME PERSON WITH, UH, AN ENERGY EFFICIENCY UPGRADE THAT THEY OTHERWISE WOULD'VE BEEN, UH, ELIGIBLE FOR. 
          SO I DO WANT TO ASK COUNCILWOMAN, UH, ROCHA GARCIA, IF WE COULD BRING THIS TO THE PLANNING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE AND LOOK AT THIS ISSUE AND MAKE SURE THAT CITY POLICY IS NOT PREVENTING YOU FROM BEING ABLE TO, TO ASSIST SOMEONE OR TELLING THEM, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TOO POOR FOR US TO HELP YOU. 
          UH, WE CAN'T BE IN THAT POSITION IF WE ARE IN THAT POSITION. 
          IT CAN'T BE BECAUSE OF CITY POLICY. 
          UM, THE OTHER ISSUE HERE IS THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR $350 MILLION APPROVAL FOR $350 MILLION YEARS, AND YOU'RE ASKING FOR A THREE YEAR CHECK-IN. 
          AND I FIND A THREE YEAR CHECK-IN ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE. 
          RIGHT NOW, I FEEL LIKE, UM, ONE, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME NEW PROGRAMS. THIS IS A NEW PROGRAM, AND I THINK WE NEED MUCH MORE FREQUENT CHECK-INS AND ESPECIALLY EARLY ON. 
          AND SO I WANT TO ASK, UM, COUNCILMAN COURAGE, OUR CHAIR OF THE MUNICIPAL UTILITY COMMITTEE, IF YOU'LL COMMIT TO, UH, TO, UM, BRINGING C P S ENERGY BACK FOR UP UPDATES ON THIS PROGRAM QUARTERLY. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO GO ALONG WITH THIS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I'M NOT COMFORTABLE. 
          I FEEL LIKE C P SS ENERGY STILL HAS, UM, SOME CREDIBILITY CHALLENGES WITH OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE STAYING VERY, UM, INVOLVED IN, IN SHAPING THESE NEW PROGRAMS AND BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE OUR INPUT. 
          I THINK WE 
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CAN TALK ABOUT THAT WITH THE COMMITTEE. 
          I'D BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT AT LEAST TWICE ANNUALLY. 
          I'M SORRY, AT LEAST TWICE WHAT TWO TIMES ANNUALLY WOULD, WOULD WORK, I'M SURE. 
          'CAUSE WE HAVE TO VISIT WITH BOTH UTILITIES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER BRAVO. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, I APPRECIATE A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT COUNCILMAN BRAVO JUST BROUGHT UP. 
          UM, AND RECOGNIZING THAT TODAY IS AN UP OR DOWN VOTE, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO STATE, YOU KNOW, IF JAYLEN HAD HIS WAY, I WOULD INCREASE THE INVESTMENT. 
          UM, AND I'VE BEEN ASKED OVERWHELMINGLY TO SUPPORT THIS, AND SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING IT TODAY. 
          I BELIEVE THAT THIS PROGRAM IS A SMART INVESTMENT FOR OUR CITY, AND I FEEL THAT IT STRIKES THE RIGHT BALANCE BETWEEN THE NEED FOR INVESTMENT IN RENEWABLES AT A LEVEL THAT WOULD NOT INCREASE C P S ENERGY RATES. 
          AND WE DID JUST DID JUST RECEIVE, UM, THAT REQUEST NOT TOO LONG AGO IN JANUARY FOR A RATE INCREASE. 
          AND I THINK THAT PROGRAMS LIKE THIS IN THIS PRESENTATION SERVES US, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF THE ACCOUNT ACCOUNTABILITY TO WHAT MANY OF OUR REQUESTS WERE. 
          AND SO, I, I WANT TO CONCUR WITH, UH, COUNCILMAN BRAVO THAT I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, A CHECK-IN IN THREE YEARS IS APPROPRIATE. 
          I WOULD PREFER, UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS WILLING TO STAY TWICE, TWICE ANNUALLY. 
          AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S WHAT'S, UH, GOING TO BE PROPOSED TO, UH, WITH THE MUNICIPAL UTILITIES COMMITTEE. 
          I WOULD LIKE A FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING POTENTIALLY ANNUALLY. 
          I THINK THAT'S A WORTHWHILE, UM, ENDEAVOR. 
          UM, I ALSO, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE THIS INITIATIVE WILL STILL ALLOW US TO INVEST IN CRITICAL TECHNOLOGY AND IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL BENEFIT ALL OF OUR C P S RATE PAYERS. 
          HOWEVER, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DETAILS OF THE PROGRAM. 
          SO, UM, NUMBER ONE, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FOUND MOST INTERESTING WAS ABOUT OUR TRADITIONAL SOLAR REBATE PROGRAM. 
          AND WHAT I'VE, WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD IS, AND WHAT YOU'VE SHARED IS THAT FAMILIES WITH DISPOSABLE INCOMES ARE THE ONES TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE SOLAR REBATE PROGRAM AND SEEING THE BENEFITS NOT NECESSARILY THOSE, UM, WHO ARE MOST VULNERABLE OR MOST IN NEED OF A PROGRAM LIKE THIS. 
          AND SO I'M WONDERING, I I WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE NON-TRADITIONAL SOLAR OPTIONS BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, WE NEED SOLAR TO WORK FOR OUR MOST VULNERABLE FAMILIES, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ANY POT, ANY PROGRAMS ARE GOING TO DO THAT. 
          CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT? YEAH, AB ABSOLUTELY. 
          UM, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UH, THE, THE BARRIERS TO SOLAR ADOPTION, YOU KNOW, COST IS, COST IS, IS, IS THE MAIN BARRIER. 
          UH, THE TYPICAL SOLAR SYSTEM COSTS, YOU KNOW, OVER $30,000. 
          AND, AND FOR A LOT OF FAMILIES, UH, THEY'RE EITHER DON'T HAVE THE DISPOSABLE INCOME OR THEY DON'T HAVE THE ACCESS TO THE FINANCING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          UH, SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UH, NON-TRADITIONAL OPTIONS, WHAT WE'RE REALLY SAYING IS HOW CAN WE DEVELOP PROGRAMS THAT, UH, REALLY DEAL WITH THAT UPFRONT COST? UH, AND COMMUNITY. 
          SOLAR'S A GOOD EXAMPLE WHERE, UH, WITH A COMMUNITY SOLAR SYSTEM, IT'S, IT'S NOT ON YOUR ROOF, IT'S, IT'S IN A, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY IT'LL BE IN A COMMON, YOU KNOW, IT'S A COMMON SYSTEM. 
          LOTS OF CUSTOMERS CAN BUY PANELS THERE. 
          YOU CAN BUY AS LITTLE AS ONE PANEL. 
          AND, AND SO THAT MIGHT BE AN INVESTMENT OF, YOU KNOW, $500 VERSUS $30,000. 
          AND SO IT'S, IT'S ONE WAY TO TACKLE THAT, THAT, UH, THAT THAT ISSUE. 
          YOU STILL GET THE BENEFITS OF OWNING THE SYSTEM, UH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND THERE'S A PAYBACK AND, AND EVERYTHING JUST LIKE IF YOU OWN THE, THE, THE SYSTEM. 
          UH, BUT, BUT AGAIN, IT, IT ADDRESSES THAT BARRIER OF COST. 
          AND SO, UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT COMMUNITY SOLAR AS, AS, AS ONE STEP. 
          WE'VE DONE A PROGRAM WHERE WE, WE HAD, UH, HOSTED SOLAR, SO, UH, WE WERE LEASING PEOPLE'S ROOFS AND PUTTING SYSTEMS ON CUSTOMER ROOFS WHERE THERE WAS NO OUT-OF-POCKET INVESTMENT. 
          SO I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT NO, NO NON-TRADITIONAL SOLAR, THAT, THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE'RE GETTING AT IS, IS OTHER STRATEGIES WE CAN BRING. 
          AND, AND PART OF THAT WILL BE, UH, YOU KNOW, A CALL FOR IDEAS, UH, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE, UH, FOLKS BRING US IDEAS. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S OTHER MODELS, UH, TO, TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE. 
          THANK, THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND I HEARD ONE, ONE MAJOR IDEA THERE, AND I HOPE THAT THAT SECOND PART, THE, YOU KNOW, BRAINSTORMING IDEAS AND ASKING COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE IN THE SOLAR PROGRAM AND HOW CAN WE BEST SERVE YOU? I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE CRITICAL. 
          I ALSO WOULD CHALLENGE THAT FOR ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS, UM, THAT WE'RE DOING MARKETING AND WE'RE TARGETING AREAS, AND WE'RE, YOU KNOW, REACHING OUT TO THOSE WHO MAYBE ARE NOT CHECKING FOR C P S ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR ON, OR MAYBE NOT HAVE ACCESS TO INTERNET AT ALL. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A CRITICAL PIECE AS WELL. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NOT JUST CCP, SS NEEDS TO DO, BUT THE C THE CITY AS A WHOLE NEEDS TO DO A BETTER JOB OF REACHING EVERYONE. 
          AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S BEING DONE AT THE MOMENT. 
          UM, I'M WONDERING, WILL THIS PROPOSED LEVEL OF INVESTMENT ALLOW US TO REMAIN ON TRACK TO CLOSE THE SPRUCE COAL POWER PLAN BY 2030? OR COULD WE LEVERAGE THESE INVESTMENTS TO ADVANCE THAT TIMELINE? I, I WILL TELL YOU THAT, UH, THESE PROGRAMS ARE A PART OF OUR, UH, FORECAST, UH, FOR, FOR HOW WE MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY GOING FORWARD. 
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UH, AND SO, UH, IF WE, IF WE DON'T MAKE THIS INVESTMENT, UH, THEN THAT'S ANOTHER 400 MEGAWATTS, UH, OF, OF CAPACITY THAT WE NEED. 
          UH, AND SO, UH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE COMMENT THAT RUDY MADE IN, IN HIS, IN HIS PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED A DIVERSIFIED STRATEGY. 
          AND THIS IS, THIS IS ONE COMPONENT OF THAT, AND IT'S A, IT'S AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT. 
          AGAIN, IT'S 400 MEGAWATTS THAT, UH, WE OTHERWISE, UH, WOULD, WOULD NEED TO HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE SOURCE OF GENERATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I WANNA SWITCH INTO, UH, ANOTHER ONE OF THE PROGRAMS, WHICH IS, UH, THE WEATHERIZATION PROGRAM. 
          UM, DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH CURRENTLY, UM, HOW MANY OF THE, HOW MUCH OF THE FUNDS ARE GOING TO LOW INCOME CUSTOMERS? A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE FUNDS? SO IT HAS TO BE, YOU HAVE TO QUALIFY ON AN INCOME BASIS TO, UH, TO RECEIVE WEATHERIZATION ON YOUR HOME. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I'M WONDERING, I, I'VE ASKED THIS QUESTION BEFORE IN I G R SO I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT IS THERE AN INDEX OF HOMES THAT ARE NOT ADEQUATELY WEATHERIZED SO THAT WE CAN PROACTIVELY SUPPORT COMMUNITIES RATHER THAN WAITING FOR THEM TO REACH US? YES. 
          WE, SO WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE, THERE ARE CUSTOMERS OUT THERE. 
          WE'VE WEATHERIZED I THINK 30,000 HOMES. 
          WE, WE KNOW THERE ARE MORE. 
          UH, AND, AND I THINK TO THE POINT EARLIER ABOUT BEING PROACTIVE, WE, WE RECOGNIZE THAT, UH, THAT, UH, GETTING THE NEXT 16,000 HOMES IS GONNA REQUIRE US TO REALLY GET OUT THERE, UH, AND, AND PROACTIVELY ENGAGED WITH CUSTOMERS AND, AND REALLY BRING THE SOLUTION TO THEM. 
          AND, AND NOT JUST WEATHERIZATION, YOU KNOW, OUR SMALL BUSINESS PROGRAM IS ANOTHER ONE, UH, WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BE OUT THERE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, UH, SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS ARE BUSY, RIGHT? AND, AND SO WE NEED TO BRING THE SOLUTION TO, TO THEM. 
          AND, AND SO WE CERTAINLY HAVE HEARD THAT FEEDBACK AND, AND WE AGREE. 
          I'LL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE BROAD THEN. 
          UM, HOW MANY HOMES NEED TO BE WEATHERIZED IN SAN ANTONIO? DO YOU KNOW THAT THE POOL OF ELIGIBLE HOMES? UH, UH, COUNCILMAN, I, WHAT I'D SAY IS, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I, I LIVE IN A 20 YEAR OLD HOME, YOU KNOW, UP IN, IN COUNCILMAN CURTIS'S DISTRICT, AND I CAN THINK OF FIVE PROJECTS I, I NEED TO DO IN MY HOME. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY 80% OF OUR HOUSING STOCK IS, YOU KNOW, 30 YEARS OR OLDER, UH, IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          SO I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SPEND A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THESE FUNDS AND THEN SOME TRYING TO WEATHERIZE EVERY HOME IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A CONSISTENT PIPELINE FOR, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER LONG WE DECIDE TO SPEND MONEY, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS PURPOSE. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE TRIED TO FOCUS ON IS LET'S START WITH THOSE THAT NEED THE ASSISTANCE THE MOST, RIGHT? I, I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA DO MORE WEATHERIZATION FOR THOSE HIGH UTILITY BURDEN CUSTOMERS THAT ARE, SAY, OVER 10%, I'D LIKE TO DO, INSTEAD OF DOING $4,500 PER HOME, WHICH IS TYPICALLY WHAT WE DO FOR CUSTOMERS WHO QUALIFY TODAY, I'D LIKE TO DO $8,000 FOR THOSE HIGH, YOU KNOW, UTILITY BURDEN CUSTOMERS. 
          'CAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO DO MORE, UH, FOR THOSE. 
          BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT I THINK WE, YOU KNOW, ASSUMING WE CAN GET CUSTOMERS TO SAY, YES, WE WILL ALLOW YOU TO COME IN OUR HOME TO, TO DO THIS WORK. 
          YOU KNOW, WE COULD, WE COULD SPEND THE NEXT 20 YEARS WEATHERIZING EVERY LOW INCOME HOME IN SAN ANTONIO AND NOT GET TO 'EM ALL. 
          I DON'T NEED AN ANSWER TO THIS NEXT QUESTION, BUT I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THE ROOT OF WHAT I'M ASKING. 
          SO I'M ASKING, DO WE KNOW HOW MANY HOMES IN SAN ANTONIO NEED TO BE WEATHERIZED? AND THE REASON THAT I'M ASKING THAT IS BECAUSE IF WE KNOW HOW MANY, AND WE KNOW WHERE THEY ARE, WE CAN THEN MAKE STRATEGIC INVESTMENT AND WE CAN GET, WE CAN BE PROACTIVE. 
          AND SO THAT'S, WE'LL GET YOU SOME INFORMATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, A PART OF THAT WOULD ALSO BE, UM, WANTING TO KNOW HOW MANY ROOFS IN OUR CITY IN THAT SAME VEIN, IF WE KNOW HOW MANY AND WHERE THEY ARE, WE ALSO NEED TO KNOW HOW MANY ROOFS ARE THERE THAT MAYBE AREN'T ADEQUATE OR COULDN'T HANDLE SOLAR. 
          SOLAR. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S ALSO IMPORTANT IN KNOWING WHICH NEIGHBORHOODS ARE WE GONNA INVEST FOR THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, WHERE IT'S COMMUNITY SOLAR, UM, I'M WONDERING, I TOUCH ON THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT I WANT TO HEAR SPECIFICS. 
          WHAT IS THE PLAN TO DO VIGOROUS AND EFFECTIVE OUTREACH TO LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES AND CUSTOMERS IN ORDER TO HELP GET THEM, UH, CONNECTED AND TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THESE PROGRAMS? SO WE SH WE SHARED A SLIDE ON, UH, REALLY A MULTI-CHANNEL STRATEGY, UH, PARTLY, PARTLY IT'S DATA. 
          UH, AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WHERE THE OLDER HOMES ARE. 
          WE KNOW, WE KNOW ABOUT THEIR USAGE. 
          UH, WE ARE PULLING IN DATA FROM THIRD PARTIES TO HELP US BUILD A PROFILE OF, OF WHERE WE NEED TO BE TARGETING THE PROGRAM. 
          SO I THINK PART OF IT IS, IS DATA DRIVEN. 
          UH, THE OTHER PART IS, IS BEING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          UH, AND SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO, UH, DO COMMUNITY EVENTS WORK THROUGH THE COUNCIL OFFICES, UH, AND AND SO FORTH TO, TO, TO HAVE A PRESENCE IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, LOOKED LIKE DEANNA WANTS TO ADD TO THAT. 
          UH, BUT, UH, BUT, BUT I, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, MY MAIN MESSAGE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT IT, IT TAKES MULTIPLE APPROACHES BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FIGHTING FOR CUSTOMERS' ATTENTION AND, AND WE'VE GOT TO GET THEM TO SAY YES TO THE PROGRAM. 
          AND SO, 
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UH, THE, THE, THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS TO DO THAT, IS, YOU KNOW, FACE TO FACE. 
          BUT DEANNA, IF YOU WANTED ADD, THANK YOU. 
          UH, ONE THING, ANOTHER THING WE'RE GONNA DO IS WHAT, WHAT WE'VE CONTINUED TO, OR WHAT WE STARTED AS PART OF OUR ARPA OUTREACH IS WE'RE BEING NOT JUST HOLDING FARES IN THE COMMUNITY OR SENDING TARGETED MESSAGES. 
          WE ARE KNOCKING ON DOORS. 
          SO, UH, SINCE, UH, ARPA, SINCE THE ARPA KICKOFF, WE'VE KNOCKED ON OVER 2,400 DOORS. 
          SO WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO TAKE IT TO CUSTOMERS WHERE THEY, WHERE WE CAN GET TO THEM. 
          SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO BE OPEN TO, UH, OPPORTUNITIES. 
          WE'RE ALSO PUTTING, UM, MESSAGING UP AND, UH, BUS SHELTERS AS WELL AS IN BUSES THEMSELVES. 
          SO ANY OTHER OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE TO CONNECT WITH CUSTOMERS TO BE IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          WE HAD 5,000 DIFFERENT EVENTS DURING THE OVER OR OVER 5,000 EVENTS FOR THE OLD, UH, STEP PROGRAM. 
          WE'RE LOOKING TO INCREASE THAT, TARGET IT USING CENSUS TRACK DATA, AND GOING AND KNOCKING ON AS MANY DOORS AS IT TAKES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I DO WANNA ASK MY LAST QUESTION, AND I WON'T CHIME IN AGAIN, BUT IT'S, HOW SOON WILL WE RECEIVE THE FINALIZED STEP, UM, PLAN DETAILS? SO SPECIFICS ON SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMS THAT ARE PROPOSED OR THE IDEAS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED, WHEN CAN WE RECEIVE AN UPDATE ON THAT? WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE FIRST PART IS, UH, MANY OF OUR EXISTING PROGRAMS, UH, IF, IF WE GET APPROVAL, UH, MANY OF THOSE WILL CONTINUE. 
          AND, UH, WE'VE SHARED THE GOALS OR THE, OR THE BUDGETS FOR THOSE PROGRAMS, THE NEW PROGRAMS, WE WILL, WE WILL STAND UP, UH, YOU KNOW, SHORTLY. 
          UH, AND SO WE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE HAVE A SIX MONTH UPDATE, I THINK AT THAT POINT WE WILL HAVE A ROSTER OF WHAT THE NEW PROGRAMS ARE, WHERE THOSE ARE, UH, AND AS, AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW THOSE GOING FORWARD. 
          BUT FOR THE EXISTING PROGRAMS, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE, WE'VE ALREADY SHARED THE NUMBERS AND, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO SHARE, UH, THE, THE PLAN FOR THAT IMMEDIATELY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER KEY RODRIGUEZ, COUNCIL MAYOR, CAN I ADD TO THAT REAL QUICK? YEAH, GO AHEAD. 
          UH, COUNCILMAN, WE'LL COMMIT TO, TO YOU TO GET THOSE TO YOU WITHIN THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, THREE TO FOUR MONTHS, DEPENDING UPON HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET 'EM TOGETHER. 
          YES, SIR. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER, CURT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, I THINK THAT MY, UH, FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ASKED SOME OF THE KEY QUESTIONS THAT I HAD, PARTICULARLY ABOUT EXPANDING THE, UH, THE NUMBER, UH, OF PEOPLE WE CAN SERVE. 
          UH, I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT 28%, EVEN THOUGH IT'S AN INCREASE OVER 16%, BUT I'M ENCOURAGED BY WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO EVEN DO MORE THAN THAT BECAUSE THE NEED IS THERE. 
          AND, UH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE WEATHERIZATION, UH, AND, AND THE OTHER, UH, INCENTIVES THAT WE CAN PROVIDE FOR PEOPLE TO IMPROVE, UH, THEIR ENERGY EFFICIENCY IN THEIR HOME AND TO LOWER THE COST FOR THEIR SERVICE, UH, YOU KNOW, IS, IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT C P SS CAN DO. 
          AND SO, UH, I'M, I'M REALLY PLEASED THAT WE'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION ON THIS, AND I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. 
          AND THAT'S ALL. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          SORRY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY. 
          UM, SO THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT THIS HAS AN ECONOMIC BENEFIT ON OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY, BUT I DON'T THINK IT HAS AN ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UM, AND IN PARTICULAR TO THE WHOLE SOUTHERN PART OF THE CITY. 
          UM, AND I'LL SHOW SOME MAPS HERE IN JUST A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED IS, HOW HAS MY DISTRICT, HOW MUCH HAS MY DISTRICT PAID IN? OR HOW MUCH BY CENSUS TRACT HAS BEEN PAID INTO THIS PROGRAM? AND HOW MUCH HAS BEEN BENEFITED? HOW MUCH HAVE THEY BENEFITED FROM, RIGHT? AND SO IT WAS A, THE FUEL SURCHARGE. 
          AND SO, UM, SO THE, THE ANSWER THAT WE GOT WAS DUE TO THE FREQUENCY OF CUSTOMERS MOVING IN AND OUT AND AROUND THE SERVICE TERRITORY OVER THE 12 YEARS OF THE PROGRAM, WE ARE UNABLE TO PROVIDE THIS LEVEL OF ANALYSIS IN A TIMELY MANNER. 
          UM, AND SO I, I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, RIGHT? BECAUSE IF WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE PROJECTIONS BASED ON, UM, HISTORICAL ANALYSIS FOR OTHER AREAS, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO, TO PROVIDE SOME SORT OF, UM, OF, OF, OF, I GUESS, UM, HOW SHOULD I SAY, JUST, UH, A PICTURE, RIGHT? UH, FOR, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, I DO, UM, BELIEVE THAT OUR, OUR GOALS IN THE FUTURE, UM, ARE A LITTLE BIT BETTER EDUCATION AND OUTREACH APPROACHES TO DRIVE PARTICIPATION, CREATE OUTCOMES THAT BENEFIT ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT EFFORT. 
          UM, I ALSO SEE THAT SINCE 2019, THERE HAVE BEEN TWO FULL PROGRAM ASSESSMENTS, AND I RECEIVED THEM YESTERDAY AT 4:53 PM SO EVEN AS WE'RE SITTING UP HERE, I WAS STILL SIFTING THROUGH THE INFORMATION, TRYING TO HIGHLIGHT SOME, UM, SOME INFORMATION. 
          WE HAD THE MUNICIPAL UTILITIES COMMITTEE, UM, ALMOST TWO, TWO WEEKS AGO ALREADY. 
          AND SO, UM, I WOULD'VE LOVED TO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL MORE TIME SO THAT I COULD HAVE MORE QUESTIONS PREPARED. 
          ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT WAS, UM, GIVEN TO ME AS ONE OF THE STUDIES WAS 
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ACTUALLY BY THE SIERRA CLUB. 
          UM, AND, UH, IN IT, THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT A CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE BE DEDICATED TO C P S ENERGIES LIKE, UH, AUSTIN HAS FOR THEIR MUNICIPAL UTILITY. 
          UM, AND WE DID THAT. 
          SO THE MAYOR, UH, COMMISSIONED THE MUNICIPAL UTILITIES COMMITTEE, AND I'M, I'M APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. 
          I'M, I'M HAPPY TO BE SERVING ON THAT COMMITTEE AS WELL. 
          UM, BUT WHAT I SAW IN SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT, THAT I WAS PROVIDED, UH, EARLIER OR, OR, WELL, YESTERDAY, AND THAT I, I STARTED GLANCING AT EARLIER TODAY, UM, IS THAT EVEN SINCE 2011 AND THE MAP SET, UM, THAT, THAT I HAVE, YOU CAN SEE THE CLEAR, UH, CUT FROM THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE DISTRICT AND IT'S MAP AFTER MAP 2012. 
          UM, I DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE YEARS. 
          THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WERE SENT, BUT THEN I DO HAVE THE MOST RECENT ONES, AND I KEEP SAYING THIS, AND I KEEP, UH, USING THE MAPS AS A SCARY PICTURE OF WHAT CONTINUES TO HAPPEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE. 
          THE SOUTH SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO CONTINUES TO BE LEFT OUT. 
          AND SO THIS IS THE RESIDENTIAL DEMAND RESPOND PARTICIPANT LOCATIONS BY COUNCIL DISTRICT. 
          THIS IS A MAP OF THE COMMERCIAL ENERGY EFFICIENCY REBATE LOCATIONS BY COUNCIL DISTRICT. 
          AGAIN, THAT SOUTHERN PART DOESN'T HAVE, THERE'S A CLEAR CUT. 
          I DO UNDERSTAND THE DIGITAL DIVIDE PLAYS INTO THIS, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT HERE IN JUST A LITTLE BIT. 
          BUT HERE'S A MAP OF THE RESIDENTIAL ENERGY EFFICIENCY REBATE LOCATIONS AGAINST BY COUNCIL DISTRICT, AND WE CONTINUE TO SEE THAT THE SOUTH SIDE CONTINUES TO BE LEFT OUT. 
          THIS IS THE WEATHERIZATION CASA, THE PARTICIPANT BY LOCATIONS, BY COUNCIL DISTRICT. 
          I SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE HERE IN DISTRICT FOUR. 
          SO, SO GOOD THERE. 
          BUT I STILL SEE THAT THERE'S INEQUITIES. 
          I STILL SEE ALSO SOLAR PARTICIPANT LOCATIONS BY COUNCIL DISTRICT. 
          I SAID THIS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, JUST BY DRIVING AROUND, YOU COULD SEE WHO IS AND WHO'S NOT PARTICIPATING. 
          I'VE BEEN DRIVING PEOPLE AROUND MY DISTRICT, AND I LITERALLY SAY, LOOK AROUND. 
          SEE HOW MANY SOLAR PANELS ARE ON, ON, IN MY DISTRICT, RIGHT? IT'S VISUAL. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY EXECUTIVES ON THE C P S TEAM OR ON OUR CITY TEAM LIVE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, BUT I SEE IT EVERY DAY. 
          SO WHEN I'M BEING TOLD THIS INFORMATION THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE FOCUS ON THE SOUTH SIDE, AND IT HASN'T HAPPENED, I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE, AND I HAVE TO REPRESENT MY RESIDENTS. 
          THE DEMAND RESPONSE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE, THERE'S A SUMMARY OF DEMAND RESPONSE PROGRAMS FROM, UM, A STUDY FROM FRONTIER ENERGY, AND IT'S PAGE 83, SMART THERMOSTATS, BRING YOUR OWN THERMOSTAT, NEST DIRECT INSTALL, REDUCE MY USE, B D R PROGRAM, NEST WEATHERIZATION, NEST MAIL ME A THERMOSTAT, NEST HOME ENERGY ASSESSMENT. 
          THOSE ALL REQUIRE WIFI. 
          THOSE ALL REQUIRE INTERNET CONNECTION. 
          THE RESIDENTS THAT I REPRESENT DON'T HAVE THAT, SO THEY CAN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS, BUT THEY'VE BEEN PAYING INTO IT FOR MANY YEARS. 
          AND SO I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE AUTHORIZING A PROGRAM THAT I DON'T SEE HAS A CLEAR CUT PLAN. 
          ADDITIONALLY, WHEN THE RAC CAME TOGETHER, AND I DO WANNA THANK MY APPOINTEE, PETER RE, UM, ELDER RE AND I MEET, UH, REGULARLY. 
          HE UPDATES ME, HE SENDS ME THE AGENDA BEFORE THE RAC COMMITTEE MEETING AND TELLS ME, COUNCILMAN, THIS IS WHAT'S GONNA BE DISCUSSED. 
          THIS IS THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED. 
          AND THEN HE DEBRIEFS ME AFTER, AND HE SAYS, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED. 
          UM, AND SO I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF ALL OF THE WORK THAT HE PUTS IN THE TIME, THE EFFORT, UM, UH, AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THE RACKED US WITH THAT SAID, ONE EXAMPLE HAPPENED THIS MORNING. 
          WE SAW THE REDISTRICTING TODAY. 
          THERE WAS COMPROMISE WITHIN THE COMMITTEES. 
          THERE WAS GIVE AND TAKES OF DISTRICTS, BUT THEY ALL CAME TOGETHER YESTERDAY. 
          THE ECONOMIC WORKFORCE AND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, THE SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, OR THE SMALL BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMISSION, HAD MADE A RECOMMENDATION. 
          WE AT THE COMMITTEE, WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SOMETHING WORK FOR EVERYONE. 
          AND THAT'S MY POINT, THAT THIS HAS NOT WORKED FOR EVERYONE IN 12 YEARS. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS BEFORE ME WERE LOOKING AT, OR HOW THEY WERE NOT ADVOCATING FOR OUR DISTRICT, BUT I'M TIRED OF PEOPLE NOT ADVOCATING FOR OUR DISTRICT. 
          THESE SAME MAPS WITH THE SOUTH SIDE BEING LEFT BEHIND, THAT WAS HAPPENING WITH VACCINATIONS HAPPENING WITH HEALTH. 
          I MEAN, IT HAPPENS EVERY TIME. 
          AND SO I THINK THIS WAS KIND OF LIKE THE STRAW THAT BROKE THE CAMEL'S BACK, FOR LACK OF A, A, OF A BETTER ANALOGY THERE. 
          BUT MY FOLKS, UM, IN DISTRICT FOUR, FOR INSTANCE, WE APPRECIATE, THEY APPRECIATE GETTING LIGHT BULBS. 
          STILL GETTING RID OF THAT PROGRAM MIGHT NOT BE IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE BENEFITING ALREADY. 
          BUT THE RESIDENTS IN MY DISTRICT, AND I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY IN DISTRICT THREE AND TWO, AND PROBABLY FIVE, THEY GET EXCITED ABOUT A LIGHT BULB THAT'S SOMETHING LESS, THAT'S ONE LESS THING THAT THEY HAVE TO GO OUT AND BUY. 
          SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THESE. 
          I KNOW THAT THERE'S LOW INCOME, SOLAR OPTIONS, BUT GUESS WHAT? THE FOLKS THAT DO HAVE THE SOLAR PANELS RIGHT NOW HAD TO GO INTO DEBT, HAD TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY THAT UPFRONT. 
          AND WE HAVEN'T 
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DONE ENOUGH FOR THEM. 
          AND SO, WHEN I SEE THAT THERE WAS A VOTE AT THE REC WHERE, UM, EIGHT PEOPLE, WELL, ACTUALLY IT WAS 10 PEOPLE TOTAL ASKED TO CONTINUE A STUDY, EIGHT OF THEM SAID TO CONTINUE TO SUSPEND THE PROGRAM ENTIRELY AND CONTINUE THE STUDY TO THEM OPTED TO EXTEND AND CONTINUE THE STUDY. 
          I STILL DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT WE ARE MAKING THE RIGHT DECISION, AND ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IF THIS IS AN UP OR DOWN VOTE TODAY, AND WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY, LET'S LOOK AT THIS. 
          LET'S DO THIS FOR, UH, X AMOUNT OF YEARS. 
          INSTEAD, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M, I'M DOING A SERVICE TO, TO MY COMMUNITY IF THINGS HAVEN'T CHANGED IN 12 YEARS. 
          SO I'M, I'M STILL, UH, STRUGGLING WITH THAT. 
          I, UM, I HAD SOME QUESTIONS AT THE MUNICIPAL UTILITIES COMMITTEE MEETING. 
          I DID GET SOME OF THE SCATTER MAPS. 
          I ASKED, IS THIS A MARKETING MISS, OR IS THIS A FINANCE, UH, FINANCING THIS? AND, AND, UM, I, THE RESPONSE WAS, WELL, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH. 
          I GET IT. 
          WE HAVE A, WE HAVE SOME PLANS. 
          I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT THOSE PLANS ARE GONNA COME TO FRUITION JUST YET. 
          I I DON'T FEEL THAT THAT ABILITY, LIKE COUNCILMAN COURAGE SAID, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE'RE MOVING FROM 16% TO 28%. 
          IT'S A GREAT FIRST START. 
          BUT WITHOUT THAT HISTORICAL ANALYSIS, WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO SEE HOW MUCH HAS, UH, HAVE, HAVE THE RESIDENTS OF, UM, THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE CITY ENTIRELY, I AM NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT DISTRICT FOUR, BUT WHEN WE SEE THESE MAPS, IT'S SO, AND, UH, JUST, JUST UNFAIR, UM, WHAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE HAD TO PUT INTO THEIR SHARE AND NOT BENEFITED FROM THAT. 
          I WILL, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING TODAY'S DECISION. 
          SO, THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHE GARCIA. 
          RUDY, DID YOU WANNA RESPOND AND COUNCILWOMAN WHAT MY, I GUESS VERY, MY VERY BRIEF RESPONSE WOULD BE THIS, I THINK, YOU KNOW, 12 YEARS AGO WE WERE IN A NEW SPACE FOR ENERGY EFFICIENCY, AND I WASN'T HERE. 
          YOU WEREN'T HERE. 
          NONE OF US WERE HERE. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN LEFT TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MOVE INTO THE FUTURE. 
          I THINK OUR COMMUNITY IS LOOKING AT EQUITY DIFFERENTLY THAN THEY'VE EVER LOOKED AT IT BEFORE. 
          I'VE, I'VE, I AM PAYING ATTENTION TO THE THINGS THAT, UH, YOU ALL ARE DOING TO ENSURE EQUITY IS PART OF THE EQUATION. 
          AND WE'RE TRYING TO FOLLOW SUIT AT C P S ENERGY. 
          SO THE PATH FORWARD IS NOTHING LIKE THE PATH, YOU KNOW, LOOKING BACKWARDS. 
          UH, A LOT OF THE PROGRAMS, YOU KNOW, WERE SET UP TO TRY TO INCENT TECHNOLOGY TO TRY TO GET, YOU KNOW, FOLKS INTERESTED, YOU KNOW, IN SAVING. 
          BUT THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, ARE WORKING ON DOING THAT WILL MAKE THOSE PICTURES, UH, BETTER, UH, QUITE FRANKLY. 
          AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL I CAN DO IS COMMIT TO YOU THAT I HEAR YOU. 
          UH, I KNOW THAT WE NEED TO DO MORE FOR FOLKS IN YOUR DISTRICT AND COUNCILMAN V'S. 
          DISTRICT AND ALL THE OTHER DISTRICTS. 
          I'VE SPENT A LOT OF MY CAREER AT C P S ENERGY, YOU KNOW, GETTING INVOLVED ON, YOU KNOW, IN, IN INITIATIVES ON THE SOUTH SIDE. 
          I THINK ONE THING THAT GETS OVERLOOKED IS THE BENEFITS OF SMALL BUSINESS. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF BIG BUSINESS IN YOUR DISTRICT. 
          MOST OF YOUR DISTRICT IS REPRESENTED BY SMALL BUSINESS, AND THAT'S PART OF THE EQUITY EQUATION THAT WE HAVE TO PAY, PAY ATTENTION TO, UH, GOING FORWARD. 
          SO ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS I HEAR YOU, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER HAPPENS FROM HERE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE GONNA PAY ATTENTION TO THIS AND DO BETTER. 
          THANK YOU, RUDY. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO. 
          THANK YOU, MARIN. 
          THANK YOU RUDY AND TEAM FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          UM, I, I WANTED TO BE SURE THAT I HIT ON THAT. 
          I READ THE ARTICLE, UM, THAT YOU DID WITH, UH, GREG FROM DECELERATION, AND I REALLY VALUE, UH, THAT DIALOGUE AND COMMUNICATION AND, UM, THE, THE STRIDES TOWARDS, UM, A MORE TRANSPARENT C P SS WITH PROVIDING DOCUMENTATION TO THE PRESS, SO ON AND SO FORTH. 
          UM, UH, I, UH, REALLY VALUE, RIGHT, THAT COMMUNICATION DIALOGUE AND THEN FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT. 
          SO GREAT WORK. 
          UM, I'M EXTREMELY GRATEFUL FOR ANDY CASTILLO, NO RELATION TO ME, WHO'S OUR C P SS RAC, AND C A C APPOINTEE, WHO, UM, HAS BEEN DROPPING BY TO BRIEF ME ON THE CONVERSATIONS GOING ON WITHIN THE C A C AND THE R A C AS WELL. 
          UM, AND HE'S FILLED ME IN ON THE GREAT DEBATE THAT'S TAKEN PLACE WITHIN COMMITTEE. 
          UM, BUT ULTIMATELY UNDERSTANDING THAT, UM, WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THESE PROGRAMS MOVING FORWARD. 
          UM, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE FAMILY REBATES WILL CONTINUE AND I WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN FOCUS ON HIGH EQUITY SCORE AREAS, SO THOSE PROPERTIES AND, UH, PROPERTIES AND THOSE RESIDENTS CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THAT PROGRAMMING. 
          IS IT POSSIBLE FOR CITY HALL DISTRICT FIVE IN PARTICULAR TO WORK WITH C P S ON OUTREACH EFFORTS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE CONNECTING OUR RESIDENTS TO THESE RESOURCES? I KNOW MY CONSTITUENTS LOVE A GOOD DOOR HANGER, UH, THAT HAS EVERY RESOURCE AVAILABLE. 
          CAN WE, CAN WE DO THAT? YES. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          THAT, THAT'S AMAZING. 
          AND I ALSO WANNA HIGHLIGHT WITH, UM, UTILITY ASSISTANCE. 
          YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB GOING DOOR TO DOOR, UM, POPUPS THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT. 
          UM, MY ASK IS, HAVE Y'ALL BEEN SENDING OUT TEXTS AS WELL? YES. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          WE SEND OUT TEXTS AND 
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PHONE CALLS AS WELL AS EMAILS, UH, ESPECIALLY WHENEVER WE'RE GOING OUT FOR THOSE POPUPS. 
          BEFORE WE DO THAT, WE SEND OUT A, UH, A PHONE CALL THAT TELLS PEOPLE WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE, AND THEN WE DO A DOOR HANGER. 
          GREAT. 
          THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          I KNOW FOR MANY OF MY CONSTITUENCY, IT'S TEXT MESSAGE WHERE THEY GET A GOOD RESPONSE FROM AND THEY'LL COME OUT. 
          BUT AGAIN, UM, EMPHASIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT BLOCK WALKING THAT Y'ALL DOING, I JOINED, UH, SOMETHING ELSE, TEAM MEMBERS IN DISTRICT FIVE, GOING DOOR TO DOOR LETTING FOLKS KNOW THAT Y'ALL HAD A POPUP AND THERE'S RESOURCES AVAILABLE. 
          SO MY HOPE IS WE CAN DO THE SAME WITH THIS STEP PROGRAMMING AS WELL. 
          UM, LAST, I KNOW WE'RE HAVING THIS $350 MILLION DISCUSSION ON ENERGY EFFICIENCY, AND I THINK AS MENTIONED BY ONE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, FOLK, IS THAT WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE INVESTING IN OUR OLDER HOUSING STOCK. 
          SO MY HOPE IS THAT WE CAN GROW OUR FISCAL 2023 BUDGET COMMITMENT TO HOUSING REHAB, PARTICULARLY UNDER ONE ROOF, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT INTERSECTS WITH ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND ENSURING THAT FOLKS GET TO AGE IN PLACE AND PASS THAT HOME ONTO THE NEXT GENERATION. 
          I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THIS ITEM. 
          AND THOSE ARE ALL MY COMMENTS. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO, COUNCIL MEMBER PAL. 
          THANKS, MAYOR. 
          UH, IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER, UM, RUDY, WE, UH, WE JUST HEARD FROM COUNCILWOMAN, UH,  GARCIA, SHE'S NOT WRONG. 
          SOMETHING'S BROKEN. 
          UM, WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I, I WOULD, I'D VENTURE TO SAY THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO'VE INSTALLED SOLAR PANELS IN THIS TOWN, UM, YOU KNOW, AND WHO'VE BENEFITED FROM THE C P S PROGRAMS TO INSTALL THOSE, UH, AND, AND AFFORD THOSE, THOSE SOLAR PANELS AND AFFORD THE THERMOSTATS AND ALL THAT, UM, ARE PROBABLY MORE CONCENTRATED IN, UH, IN MY SIDE OF TOWN AND IN COUNCILMAN KURT'S SIDE OF TOWN, UM, THAN LET'S SAY, DISTRICT FOUR, DISTRICT FIVE, DISTRICT THREE, DISTRICT TWO. 
          UM, AND THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT, RIGHT? THERE'S MORE AFFLUENCE UP THERE, THERE'S MORE, UM, IT'S MUCH MORE LIKELY THAT PEOPLE UP THERE READ, UH, THE, ALL THE INFORMATION THAT'S PUMPED OUT FROM THE CITY AND THE UTILITIES, THAT THEY ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, HAVE ACCESS TO THE INTERNET TO FILL OUT THE APPLICATIONS. 
          UM, AND FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT WE KNOW THAT'S NOT HAPPENING ON, UM, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER PARTS OF TOWN. 
          AND WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS THOUGH, IS THAT THE NET RESULT IS THAT THE MORE AFFLUENT NEIGHBORHOODS ARE, ARE GETTING ACCESS TO ALL THIS REALLY COOL TECHNOLOGY AND THESE OPPORTUNITIES, AND THEY'RE BEING SUBSIDIZED BY, UH, POOR SAN ANTONIOS WHO DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE OR THE INFORMATION OR, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THESE OPPORTUNITIES, UH, IN THE SAME WAY THAT THEY DO ON THE NORTH SIDE. 
          AND, AND QUITE HONESTLY, YOU KNOW, IF I WERE JUST LOOKING AT IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF A CITY COUNCILMAN, YOU KNOW, IN DISTRICT EIGHT, I'D SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS TERRIFIC. 
          WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH SONO PANELS ON THEIR ROOF, BUT IT'S NOT TERRIFIC IF IT'S COMING AT THE COST OF, UM, UH, OF TAXING FOLKS IN, IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          UM, AND IT'S BEING SUBSIDIZED BY PEOPLE WHO, WHO OUGHT NOT TO BE SUBSIDIZING THIS. 
          AND SO I'M SENSITIVE TO THAT, THAT'S BROKEN. 
          AND, UM, I, I, I WILL ECHO SOMETHING THAT YOU SAID, RUDY. 
          WE, UM, AND, AND, AND I'LL DO IT THIS WAY, YESTERDAY, I MADE THE COMMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE WORD RESILIENCY HADN'T BEEN USED EVER AT CITY HALL UNTIL FIVE YEARS AGO. 
          AND NOW EVERYBODY'S USING IT, AND WE LOOK THROUGH THIS RESILIENCY LENS. 
          UM, AND, BUT I WILL SAY ALSO THAT THE WORD EQUITY, THE WORD COMPASSION, AND, UH, THIS CONCEPT OF REDLINING HAD NEVER BEEN DISCUSSED EVER, UH, PRIOR TO FIVE YEARS AGO. 
          AND THEN I TAKE NO CREDIT FOR THAT. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYOR NIERENBERG STARTED OUR VERY FIRST COUNCIL MEETING EVER, UM, WITH HIM OCCUPYING THAT SEAT, UM, BY HAVING A BIG DISCUSSION ABOUT EQUITY AND COMPASSION AND REDLINING. 
          UM, AND SINCE THEN, THOSE THREE WORDS HAVE IMPROVED, YOU KNOW, HAVE, HAVE IMPROVED THE QUALITY OF THE CONVERSATION AND THE POLICY DEBATE, BUT ALSO HAVE INFORMED A LOT OF OTHER DECISIONS. 
          UM, AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE ALSO REMEMBER THAT NOBODY WAS TALKING THAT WAY AT C P S OR SAWS, EITHER OR VIA, FOR THAT MATTER, BUT NOW THEY ARE. 
          RIGHT? AND SO, TO BE FAIR, UM, WE GOT A LOT OF CATCHING UP TO DO, BUT WE'RE NOW HEADED IN WHAT I BELIEVE TO BE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          UH, AND WE'VE TAKEN SOME VERY IMPORTANT STEPS, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT. 
          UH, I BELIEVE IN THE STEP PROGRAM, BUT I ALSO BELIEVE IN, BUT IN AUDITS, I BELIEVE IN SCRUBBING, UM, AND SIFTING THROUGH INFORMATION FOR THE PURPOSE OF IDENTIFYING AREAS OF IMPROVEMENT. 
          UM, AND SO, UH, I, I'M, 
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I'M VERY INTERESTED IN SEEING US DO A VERY REGULAR CHECK-IN THROUGH THE, UH, MUNICIPAL UTILITIES COM COMMITTEE TO, UM, GET THE INFORMATION THAT COUNCILMAN MCGEE RODRIGUEZ WAS, WAS TALKING ABOUT. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW, EVERY, YOU KNOW, EVERY TWO MONTHS WE GET, YOU KNOW, THIS, BUT, UM, ON A REGULAR BASIS, WE SHOULD BE GETTING IT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE NOT JUST DOING GREAT, BUT FINDING OUT WAYS FOR US TO DO BETTER. 
          RIGHT? AND, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S THE POINT THAT COUNCILMAN BRAVO WAS MAKING, UM, AND THAT IS, UM, TO ME, AT LEAST WHAT I HEARD WAS THAT EVEN THOUGH STEP, UM, YOU KNOW, IS HITTING A LOT OF TARGETS AND, AND DELIVERING A LOT OF DIVIDENDS, ARE WE MAXIMIZING THE POTENTIAL OF THAT PROGRAM? I DON'T KNOW. 
          AND WE, WE WON'T KNOW UNLESS WE DO A REGULAR, UH, CHECKUP, RIGHT? AND SO, BUT, BUT I DO QUARREL WITH ONE, UM, ONE ARGUMENT THAT WAS MADE, AND THAT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT SOMEHOW AUSTIN'S DOING SOMETHING SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE WAY WE ARE. 
          AND, AND RUDY, YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST. 
          I, I THINK IT'S, IT'S UNFAIR. 
          UH, AND I THINK IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A MISTAKE TO, TO COMPARE AUSTIN'S UTILITIES TO SAN ANTONIO BECAUSE OUR, OUR, OUR, OUR PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACH TO HOW WE DO THIS IS DIFFERENT, RIGHT? AND SO, RUDY, IF YOU, I, I DON'T, I CAN'T SEE YOU, I DUNNO IF YOU'RE AT THE PODIUM OR NOT, BUT I'M, I'M GONNA JUST LET YOU UNPACK THAT. 
          HOW ARE WE DIFFERENT THAN AUSTIN? YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU CAN JUST TELL ME WHAT YOU'VE TOLD ME IN THE PAST, BUT HOW ARE WE DIFFERENT FROM AUSTIN? HOW ARE OUR PRIORITIES DIFFERENT THAN AUSTIN? HOW ARE OUR NEEDS DIFFERENT THAN AUSTIN? UM, AND ARE WE, ARE WE, ARE WE WORSE OFF THAN IN AUSTIN, OR ARE WE BETTER OFF THAN, THAN THE FOLKS IN AUSTIN? SO, UM, LAY THAT ON ME PLEASE. 
          THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AUSTIN AND SAN ANTONIO, UH, IS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE FUNDAMENTALLY AN ELECTRIC UTILITY. 
          WE'RE AN ELECTRIC AND GAS UTILITY, SO WE HAVE SOME DIVERSITY THAT ACTUALLY BENEFITS OUR CUSTOMER BASE. 
          FOR THOSE WHO HAVE GAS, THEIR UTILITY COSTS ARE ABOUT 25% LESS THAN SOMEBODY WHO MIGHT BE, UH, ALL ELECTRIC. 
          SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE. 
          NUMBER TWO, WE'RE TWICE THE SIZE OF AUSTIN ENERGY. 
          UH, AUSTIN'S PRETTY MUCH, YOU KNOW, UH, BOXED IN ON ALL SIDES. 
          SO THEY'RE GROWING UP, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT A LOT MORE MULTIFAMILY IN AUSTIN, WHICH IS WHY THEY FOCUS ON MULTIFAMILY PROGRAMS. WE'RE MOVE, WE'RE GROWING OUT IN EVERY DIRECTION, UH, IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          EVERY DISTRICT IN SAN ANTONIO IS GROWING, UH, OUTWARDLY TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY. 
          AND SO, UH, WE, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK OUR NEEDS ARE DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF THE DIVERSITY IN OUR, OF OUR PROGRAMS. UH, BUT I WILL TELL YOU FUNDAMENTALLY, UH, THE DIVERSITY OF OUR ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS, THE AMOUNT OF, OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE, TRYING TO REACH DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF OUR CUSTOMER BASE, I THINK IS MUCH MORE ROBUST, UH, THAN WHAT AUSTIN ENERGY DOES. 
          THEY DO A GOOD JOB IN THEIR OWN RIGHT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, RESPONDING TO THEIR OWN COMMUNITY. 
          UH, AND I THINK WE WORK REALLY HARD TO TRY TO DO THE SAME HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          YOU KNOW, AND, AND THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE ABOUT AUSTIN TOO, RIGHT? I MEAN, THERE INFRASTRUCTURE IS NEWER, THE HOMES ARE MUCH NEWER. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE, WE'VE GOT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS MORE LEGACY NEIGHBORHOODS AND, AND MUCH OLDER HOMES. 
          UM, WE HAVE, UM, I THINK ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE, UM, THE POOREST CENSUS TRACKS IN THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES. 
          AND SO I THINK WE ALSO HAVE TO BE REALLY SENSITIVE, UH, TO THE, TO THIS, TO MAKING SURE THAT WE DELIVER NOT JUST RELIABLE ENERGY, BUT THE MOST AFFORDABLE ENERGY, UH, TO THE PEOPLE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          UM, BECAUSE THAT AFFORDABILITY IS A LIFESAVER, UH, IN MANY WAYS. 
          AND SO, I, I, I UNDERSTAND ALL THE DIFFERENT CHALLENGES THAT WERE BEING FACED. 
          AND BY THE WAY, WHILE, WHILE, WHILE WE WERE ALL HAVING THIS DISCUSSION, I PULLED UP AUSTIN ENERGY'S WEBPAGE, AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THEIR LOW DEMAND IN REAL TIME, LIKE RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, AND ON A SUNNY DAY WITH NICE WIND AND EVERYTHING, UM, THEY'RE, I THINK THEIR LOW DEMAND, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH THEIR PORTFOLIO, UH, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT ALL THE DIFFERENT VARIETIES OF RE RENEWABLES THAT THEY HAVE. 
          AND NON-RENEWABLE AUSTIN RIGHT NOW IS AT 44%, UM, IN ITS GRID OF, UH, USING NON-RENEWABLE. 
          AND THAT'S AN IMPORTANT NUMBER, RIGHT? 'CAUSE I DON'T WANNA LEAVE ANYBODY WITH THE IMPRESSION THAT SOMEHOW AUSTIN IS THE GREENEST OF THE GREEN. 
          UH, LIKE US, THEY'RE STILL USING DIRTY ENERGY, UM, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO. 
          AND, UH, I, I THINK THOUGH, IF YOU LOOK AT US HISTORICALLY OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS, YOU KNOW, OUR, WE HAVE BEEN REPLACING NON-RENEWABLE ENERGY WITH, UM, WITH RENEWABLE ENERGY AT A VERY, VERY FAST CLIP. 
          AND, UM, THAT'S NOTHING TO, THAT'S NOTHING TO MINIMIZE. 
          AND SO, ANYWAY, UH, I, I, I DO HAVE SOME PROBLEMS WITH STEP, UM, BUT NOT ENOUGH PROBLEMS TO JUST VOTE NO ON IT TODAY. 
          UM, I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT, IMPORTANT PROGRAM. 
          BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH IS THESE UP OR 
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DOWN VOTES. 
          UH, AND ANDY, YOU AND I HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, LEGALLY, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO, UH, THERE'S NO WAY TO MAKE AMENDMENTS TODAY OR, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS. 
          BUT THAT BUGS ME, RIGHT? 'CAUSE ULTIMATELY, WE'RE THE, WE'RE THE POLICY MAKERS HERE, AND THIS IS A POLICY DISCUSSION. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS ELECTED TO DO MORE THAN UPPER DOWN VOTES, AND I FEEL LIKE THAT IS BEING TAKEN AWAY, UH, FROM ME, AND BY VIRTUE OF THAT BEING TAKEN AWAY FROM, FROM MY VOTERS. 
          AND SO, I'M, I'M REALLY FRUSTRATED AT THAT. 
          BUT I'M, I'M, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL FIGHT THAT FIGHT AT A LATER DATE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER, IF I MAY, MAY I, I CAN, I CAN ADDRESS A LITTLE BIT OF THAT. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          UM, COUNCILMAN THE, WHAT'S BEFORE THE, UH, COUNCIL TODAY IS FUNDING FOR THE PROGRAM. 
          THE ACTUAL PROGRAM IS VOTED ON AND APPROVED BY THE C P S BOARD, WHICH IS WHY ESSENTIALLY WHAT THE COUNCIL'S FACING TODAY IS AN UP OR DOWN VOTE. 
          BUT CERTAINLY, UH, WE CAN DISCUSS HOW, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD, UM, WE CAN PROVIDE MORE FLEXIBILITY WHERE WE CAN, WHERE WE ARE ALLOWED TO UNDER BOTH THE, UH, BOND COVENANTS AND STATE LAW. 
          BUT YOU AND I CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. 
          THANK YOU, ANDY. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION, RUDY. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          UM, I, I ECHO A LOT OF THE SAME CONCERNS THAT COUNCILWOMAN GARCIA TALKED ABOUT. 
          AND, UM, I, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE, OVER A HIGHER LEVEL HERE, I MEAN, WE JUST PASSED A RATE INCREASE FOR C P S NOT LONG AGO. 
          WHAT WAS IT? AN AVERAGE OF $3 AND 50 CENTS, UH, ON THE AVERAGE BILL, PLUS WINTER STORM URI, UH, ISSUES. 
          AND NOW WE GOT FUEL ADJUSTMENT RATES. 
          UM, AND NOW WE'RE TALKING THIS, THIS IS ANOTHER $3 AND 50 CENTS, UH, A MONTH. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, , WE JUST, UH, UH, PASSED A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION HERE, AND WE'RE EATING IT UP NOW WITH ANOTHER PORTION OF THE CITY. 
          AND, UH, I DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT. 
          I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT. 
          I MEAN, I, I, I'M FAILING TO SEE, UH, THE NECESSITY OF THIS AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT ALL THESE SAVINGS THAT WE'RE GETTING OUT OF THESE PROGRAMS. I MEAN, HOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT IS, BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OVER 750 MEGAWATTS THAT WE'VE SAVED, AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER 400 THAT WE'RE GONNA SAVE, UM, IN, IN THESE PROGRAMS. HOW MUCH MONEY DOES THAT EQUATE TO ABOUT, DO Y'ALL HAVE A FIGURE ON THAT? HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE THAT WE'RE SAVING? WE, WE'VE SPENT ABOUT $850 MILLION ON THE STEP PROGRAM. 
          UM, AND, UH, NOW WE'VE ACHIEVED SAVINGS BECAUSE OF THAT, UH, UH, OF ABOUT TWO TO ONE. 
          YEAH, ABOUT TWO TO ONE. 
          SO, UH, OVER A, WELL OVER A BILLION DOLLARS IN SAVINGS AS A RESULT OF THAT INVESTMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          WHERE DID THOSE DOLLARS GO? THAT SAVINGS? UH, IN A LOT OF CASES, UH, THOSE SAVINGS REPRESENT, UH, TRANSMISSION COSTS, UH, COST FOR POWER, COST FOR FUEL THAT WE WOULD'VE INCURRED, UH, WITHOUT, WITHOUT THE PROGRAMS. OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, I GUESS I WOULD HAVE TO DIG INTO THAT DEEPER. 
          WHERE, WHERE'S ALL THESE SAVINGS GOING TO? UH, IS THAT ULTIMATE? ULTIMATELY IT'S BENEFITING OUR CUSTOMERS. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, OUR CUSTOMERS PAY FOR, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE FUEL, ALL OF THE CAPACITY, ALL OF THAT THAT WE, THAT WE ACQUIRE, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY SHOWS UP ON A CUSTOMER BILL. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING WITH THE STEP PROGRAM IS, YOU KNOW, WE MAKE AN INVESTMENT ON THE UP ON, ON, ON THE FRONT SIDE, YOU KNOW, UP UPFRONT, YOU KNOW, AS, AS, AS WE, AS WE RUN THE PROGRAMS AND VALIDATE THEM. 
          BUT THE SAVINGS MATERIALIZE OVER, OVER MANY YEARS, UH, THROUGH LOWER TRANSMISSION COSTS, FUEL COSTS, CAPACITY COSTS THAT WE WOULD OTHERWISE INCUR. 
          AND, AND I THINK THAT THE, THE, THE, THE POINT OF THE, THE STEP PROGRAM WHEN WE SAY IT'S COST EFFECTIVE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY THAT INVESTMENT IS GREATER THAN THE COST. 
          WELL,  YEAH. 
          OVER TIME, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT YOU'RE SAYING THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT IS TWO TO ONE, BUT WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THAT RETURN? I, THERE'S NOTHING SHOWING WHERE THAT MONEY IS GOING TO. 
          PLUS WE JUST DID A RATE HIKE THAT HAD, HERE'S THE THINGS WE'RE GONNA USE THAT, UH, WE'RE RATE HIKE FOR. 
          SO YOU ADD THOSE TWO TOGETHER. 
          I, YOU KNOW, I, THE CUSTOMERS OUT THERE ARE SAYING, WAIT A MINUTE, WE JUST HAD A RATE HIKE AND NOW YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THIS PROGRAM THAT ADDS AN ADDITIONAL THREE 50 A MONTH. 
          WHERE'S ALL THIS MONEY GOING TO? AND, AND THAT'S THE KIND OF DETAIL THAT'S NOT APPARENT. 
          AND THAT'S THE KIND OF THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY SAYING, HERE 
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IT IS. 
          HERE'S WHERE IT'S GOING. 
          HERE'S WHERE WHAT'S SAVING, AND THIS IS WHERE THE SAVINGS ARE GOING. 
          THERE'S NOTHING LAID OUT LIKE THAT. 
          COUNCILMAN, UH, WE'LL GO THROUGH AS I'VE, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN TALKING TO COUNCILMAN, UH, ROJA GARCIA, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT REPORTS THAT WE'VE WRITTEN THAT THE CITY HAS TO VALIDATE, AND WE'VE GOT STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE AS WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THIS PRESENTA, UH, THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF WHAT COMES NEXT. 
          UH, AND SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT INFORMATION AND, AND GET YOU AND FOLLOW UP WITH YOU, YOU KNOW, TO, TO TRY TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION THAT YOU'RE ASKING. 
          'CAUSE I I THINK THERE IS RELEVANT INFORMATION. 
          I'M GONNA USE AN EXAMPLE JUST TO TRY TO HIGHLIGHT, YOU KNOW, WHEN RICK'S TALKING ABOUT AVOIDED COST, WE, WE RIGHTFULLY SO RETIRED DEAL, OUR OLDER OF, OF OUR COAL UNITS, UM, 15 YEARS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, YOU KNOW, THEY STILL HAVE 15 YEARS OF LIFE. 
          AND WE RETIRED 'EM, IT'S ABOUT A THOUSAND MEGAWATTS, 900 MEGAWATTS, GIVE OR TAKE, UH, OF CAPACITY THAT, UH, WE HAD TO REPLACE. 
          WE ONLY REPLACED, UH, WE, WE WENT OUT AND BOUGHT A MUCH MORE EFFICIENT NATURAL GAS PLANT THAT RIO NAGA PLANT OUT IN SEGUIN. 
          THAT'S ABOUT 600 MEGAWATTS. 
          SO THE DELTA DIDN'T FULLY REPLACE WHAT WE RETIRED, AND WE HAVEN'T BUILT A POWER PLANT SINCE OUTSIDE OF THE SOLAR CAPACITY THAT WE'VE ADDED OVER THE YEARS. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MANAGE THE GROWTH IN OUR COMMUNITY OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, WHICH IS SUBSTANTIAL WITHOUT REALLY ADDING A MA A, A MAJOR BASE LOAD UNIT TO OUR PORTFOLIO. 
          THAT IS WHAT THE OUTCOME, WHAT THE OUTCOME OF STEP WAS MEANT TO ACHIEVE FROM THE GET GO. 
          AGAIN, JUST AN EXAMPLE, UH, I WILL, WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON THE QUESTION THAT YOU'RE ASKING. 
          UH, BUT, BUT THAT IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN, IN AVOIDED COSTS. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          ANOTHER, UH, THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, ANOTHER CONCERN, WE HAD TWO COMMITTEES, THE RAC AND THE CAC ONE COMMITTEE, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, BECAUSE I SAW A LOT OF EMAILS AND INFORMATION COMING OUT OF THE RAC AS TO WHY THEY DIDN'T AGREE WITH THIS PROGRAM. 
          WE SHOULD TAKE A STEP BACK AND DO A, A BIGGER EVALUATION OF THIS SETTING UP GOALS, SETTING UP METRICS, AND REALLY EVALUATING THIS. 
          AND THEN YOU HAD THE CAC THAT ALMOST UNANIMOUS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THIS. 
          I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAD TWO COMMITTEES LOOKING AT THE ONE SAME THING AND ONE COMMITTEE BEING SO DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER COMMITTEE. 
          I, I DON'T GET IT. 
          I, I, I, LIKE I SAID, I, I SAW A LOT OF EMAILS COMING OUT OF THE RACK SAYING WHY WE SHOULDN'T DO THIS, AND WE SHOULD TAKE A STEP BACK AND EVALUATE THIS FURTHER. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER COMMITTEE SAID, UH, YEAH, LOOKS GOOD. 
          LET'S MOVE ON WITH IT. 
          I, TO ME, THAT RAISES MY SUSPICIONS ON WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON HERE, AND WHICH COMMITTEE IS REALLY GETTING INTO IT, LOOKING AT THE DATA AND EVALUATING AND VOTING ON IT THE CORRECT WAY. 
          AND I WAS THE, WAS THE RAC, UH, ALL THE RAC INFORMATION BRIEFED TO THE BOARD? I MEAN, DID THEY HAVE A FULL LOOK AT THAT, AT WHAT THE RACK'S CONCERNS WERE? YES, SIR. 
          THE, THE, AND THEY, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS WITH THE BOARD. 
          THE BOARD WAS GIVEN. 
          UH, IN FACT, THERE A LOT OF OUR RAC MEMBERS, UH, GAVE ACTUAL KIND OF TESTIMONIALS OF WHY THEY THOUGHT WHAT THEY THOUGHT. 
          UH, THE BOARD CONSIDERED THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THEM. 
          OUR, OUR CHAIRS OF BOTH THE RAT RAID ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THE C A C, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, GAVE THEIR OWN, UH, BREAKDOWN OF THEIR DELIBERATIONS, UH, BEFORE THE BOARD, BEFORE THE, THEY VOTED, AND THE BOARD CONSIDERED, UH, THE, THE, UH, DELIBERATIONS OF THE IRAQ AND THE CAC C. 
          SO YES, THEY WERE ABSOLUTELY PART OF THE PROCESS. 
          I I JUST SEE A BIG DICHOTOMY THERE BETWEEN THE TWO COMMITTEES AND BEING SO FAR OFF FROM EACH OTHER. 
          I DON'T GET IT. 
          UM, I GUESS, AND I'VE SAID THIS ON MANY OCCASIONS, C P S SHOULD BE RUN AS A BUSINESS, A BUSINESS NOT TO LOSE MONEY AND TO PROVIDE BOTH RELIABLE AND ECONOMIC POWER, ECONOMICAL POWER TO THEIR CUSTOMERS. 
          AND THERE'S MORE CUSTOMERS IN JUST THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          WE GOT A BIG NETWORK OUTSIDE OF THE CITY AS WELL. 
          UM, AND THERE'S MORE COMING, THERE'S A BIGGER DEMAND BEING PUT ON C P SS. 
          AND I'VE SAID THIS ALSO, AT SOME POINT IN TIME, THE REQUIREMENTS ARE GONNA OUTSTRIP THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US. 
          THIS SHOULD JUST BE A TOOL ON THE CONSERVATION. 
          WE ARE NOT GONNA CONSERVE OUR WAY OUT OF THIS, UH, UH, POWER GENERATION ISSUE. 
          WE'VE GOT TO START LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL WAYS TO EITHER MA EITHER MAKE THE ELECTRICITY OURSELVES OR SOME OTHER METHOD TO MAKE UP THAT DIFFERENCE. 
          AND I, I KEEP SAYING THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL POWER PLANTS. 
          I DON'T CARE WHAT KIND, BUT LET'S SOMEWHERE WE GOTTA START PROGRAMMING THOSE. 
          AND YOU CAN'T JUST PUT A PLANT OUT SOME, SOMEWHERE WITHIN A COUPLE YEARS. 
          IT TAKES YEARS AND 
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YEARS TO GET THE PERMITTING AND THE DESIGN AND THE CONSTRUCTION AND EVERYTHING DONE. 
          I'M, I'M JUST REALLY, REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. 
          I, I'M, I'M GONNA KEEP SAYING THAT, UM, WE'VE GOTTA LOOK AT OUR FUTURE REQUIREMENTS AND WHAT OUR RESOURCES ARE NOW AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO, UH, BOLSTER THAT UP FOR THE LARGER IMPACT OF USING POWER HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          UH, EVS, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE, WHERE THAT'S COMING. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WHERE'S THE POWER GONNA COME FROM? WHERE'S OUR GRID GONNA BE UP UPGRADED TO SUPPORT EVS ACROSS THIS ENTIRE, ENTIRE CITY? SO, UM, I, I'VE GOT CONCERNS ABOUT THIS, AND I FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT SUPPORTING THIS, THIS AT THIS TIME. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY, LET ME, LET ME INTERJECT BECAUSE IT'S COME UP A FEW TIMES. 
          JUST, UH, IN TERMS OF THE BOARD DELIBERATION, SINCE I SIT ON THE BOARD AND DID HEAR THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE TWO COMMITTEES, UH, THE TWO COMMITTEES HAVE TWO DIFFERENT CHARGES. 
          THEY BOTH CHOSE TO TAKE UP ANALYSIS OF THE PROGRAM. 
          UM, THE RAC DID NOT MAKE A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION ON A PARTICULAR PROGRAM, BUT THE VOTING OUTCOMES WERE VERY CLEAR. 
          UH, OVERALL, THERE WERE 18 MEMBERS WHO VOICED AN OPINION THROUGH A VOTE. 
          UH, FOUR MEMBERS VOTED IN FAVOR OF ADOPTING A LARGER PROGRAM. 
          FOUR MEMBERS VOTED IN FAVOR OF ADOPTING THE, THE PROGRAM THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY AT, AT THE CURRENT FUNDING LEVEL. 
          TWO MEMBERS VOTED TO, UH, EXTEND THE PROGRAM AS IS TO STUDY IT FURTHER. 
          AND THEN EIGHT MEMBERS VOTED TO PAUSE THE PROGRAM. 
          UH, BUT MOST OF THOSE IN THEIR COMMENTARY SAID THEY DIDN'T WANT THE PROGRAM TO GO AWAY. 
          SO ESSENTIALLY VOTING IN, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FOLKS WHO WANTED TO EXTEND. 
          SO IN MY VIEW, THE RAC ACTUALLY IN TOTAL, IF YOU VIEW THE COMMONS IN TOTAL, SUPPORTED US MOVING FORWARD WITH STEP IN SOME CAPACITY, EITHER AT THE CURRENT LEVEL OR ABOVE. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE C A C WAS VERY CLEAR AND DIDN'T SET A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE CONSIDERED. 
          AND THAT WAS TO CREATE A LARGER PROGRAM, THE A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS PROGRAM. 
          AND THAT WAS, UM, UH, SEVEN OUT OF 10 FOLKS THERE. 
          THREE OF THE MEMBERS OUT OF THE 10 VOTED TO, TO ADOPT THE PROGRAM. 
          WE, WE ARE LOOKING AT TODAY. 
          SO BY A LARGE MARGIN OF ALL THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO CONSIDERED THIS PROGRAM IN THE TWO COMMITTEES, MOST, UH, BY A LARGE MARGIN, THEY WANTED TO CONTINUE A ROBUST PROGRAM AT THE LEVEL THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW, OR, OR LARGER. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS CLEAR. 
          THAT, AND THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT LENGTH, UH, BY THE BOARD. 
          WE DID HEAR FROM THOSE TWO, UH, COMMITTEES DIRECTLY. 
          UH, SO LET ME CONTINUE DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL MEMBER GRO. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, THESE ARE YES OR NO QUESTIONS. 
          IS THIS A NEW PROGRAM OR JUST AN EXTENSION OF STEP? I'M JUST KIDDING. 
          THEY'RE NOT YES OR NO QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD, RICK. 
          THIS IS A NEW PROGRAM. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS IS A NEW PROGRAM THAT'S JUST INCORPORATING STEP PROGRAMS. SO SOME PROGRAMS WILL CONTINUE, BUT IT, THIS IS NOT AN EXTENSION OF THE EXISTING PROGRAM. 
          THIS IS A NEW PROGRAM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND ANGIE, IF THIS IS PASSED BY, BY THE COUNCIL TODAY, WHEN IS C P S OBLIGATED TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL? WELL, AS, AS, AS, AS I'VE HEARD THE, UH, COUNCIL DISCUSS, I THINK THEY'RE GONNA BE UPDATES THAT ARE GONNA COME TO THE, UM, MUNICIPAL UTILITIES COMMITTEE, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. 
          COUNCILWOMAN? NO, I, I WANNA KNOW THAT IF THIS IS PASSED TODAY, THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK UNTIL 2025. 
          UNLESS THERE'S CHANGES THAT REQUIRE FUNDING, THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TILL YOU'RE CORRECT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, UM, AS IT STANDS, THE, AND THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THE QUESTION, ANDY, IS THAT WE DON'T GET ANY SAY IN THE PROGRAMS. THAT IS THE C P S BOARD OF FIVE THAT GETS THE SAY. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          THEY REVIEW AND APPROVE THE PROGRAM, THE C P SS BOARD, AND, AND BEN, MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER THIS AN THIS QUESTION. 
          IF THIS DOES NOT PASS TODAY, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE FUEL CHARGE? SO, COUPLE THINGS. 
          NUMBER ONE, THE COUNCIL WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE INPUT INTO OUR PROGRAM, WHETHER YOU'RE VOTING FOR IT OR NOT, COUNCILWOMAN, WE'RE GONNA COME BACK, WE'RE GONNA TELL YOU WHAT WE SEE. 
          WE'RE GONNA TAKE YOUR INPUT AND WE'RE GONNA MODIFY AS WE GO. 
          SO I JUST WANNA, YOU KNOW, KIND OF RE-AFFIRM THE FACT THAT I WANT YOUR INPUT, I WANT YOUR GUIDANCE, I WANT YOUR HELP, QUITE FRANKLY, TO REACH SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF, OF THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY THAT AREN'T PARTICIPATING. 
          FOR WHATEVER REASON, I, I WANNA REACH OUT TO 'EM AND GET 'EM IN. 
          UM, SO, SO WE'RE GONNA LISTEN TO YOU REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU HAVE A FORMAL VOTE ON SOMETHING OR NOT. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE NOT TURNED THE COUNCILMAN DOWN ON THE MUNICIPAL UTILITIES COMMITTEE YET ON AN AGENDA ITEM THAT THEY HAVE REQUESTED. 
          NUMBER ONE, UH, ON, IF, IF THIS ITEM DOES NOT PASS, UH, THE PROGRAM ENDS JULY 31ST, WHICH MEANS WE SHUT DOWN PROGRAMS. 
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THEY, THE SERVICES WILL END ON THAT DATE. 
          UH, THE, THE DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE SPENT TO DATE, UH, 'CAUSE THERE'S A STEP FEE FOR LAST YEAR THAT IS CURRENTLY ON THE BILLS FOR THIS YEAR. 
          YOU KNOW, UH, AND THAT WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE END OF OUR FISCAL YEAR. 
          WHAT WE HAVE SPENT TO DATE WILL BE IMPLEMENTED NEXT YEAR, STARTING IN, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. 
          WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS OF VERIFICATION AND WE'LL EXTEND INTO THE YEAR AFTER THAT. 
          SO, STEP WILL BE ON OUR CUSTOMER'S BILLS, EVEN IF YOU END AT JULY 31ST INTO 2024, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          AND, AND, AND THEN THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS TO THE FUEL CHARGE. 
          IT ENDS IN 2024. 
          IF WE END, IF WE VOTE, IF THIS DOES NOT PASS TODAY. 
          OH, YES, MA'AM, THAT IS CORRECT. 
          SO WHAT WE ARE GETTING FROM C P SS NOW IS WHAT THEY HAVE SPENT, UH, FOR THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR, WHICH IS THE LAST YEAR OF THE STEP PROGRAM. 
          SO THEN WE WOULD START THAT RECOVERY THIS YEAR. 
          SO YOU WOULD NOT SEE THAT DROP OFF UNTIL LATER ON. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, BACK IN DECEMBER, 2021, UH, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A 3.85 BASE RATE IN INCREASE WITH AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF MARCH 1ST, 2022. 
          I VOTED FOR THIS AS IT WOULD PROVIDE 73 MILLION TO IMPROVE IN INFRASTRUCTURE AND RESILIENCY. 
          WHEN I DID VOTE FOR THIS, I WAS VERY CLEAR THAT I WANTED US TO ADDRESS RATE STRUCTURE AND GENERATIONAL PLANNING, AND TO ENSURE THAT I, UM, I JOINED THE RAC COMMITTEE AND THAT THIS HAS BEEN A VERY INFORMATIVE PROCESS. 
          AND I WANT ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO KNOW THAT YOU SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF YOUR APPOINTEES ON THE RATE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          THEY ARE SO VERY SMART AND GIVE SO MANY OPINIONS AND SUGGESTIONS. 
          AND AS I WATCHED, UH, THE VOTE ON THIS, UM, WHAT I FELT LIKE IS THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF CONFUSION AND A LOT OF NEEDS. 
          AND I AM OF THE BELIEF THAT IF WE HAD OUR GENERATIONAL PLANNING DONE FIRST, OR OUR RATE STRUCTURE DONE FIRST, THIS WOULD BE A LOT EASIER FOR US HERE TODAY BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE SOME GUARANTEES. 
          RIGHT NOW, WHAT I HAVE BEFORE ME IS WAY TOO MANY UNCERTAINTIES THAT THIS WILL BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS OF DISTRICT THREE. 
          UM, AND THIS IS PARTLY BROUGHT UP TO WHAT SOME OF THE RATE ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS SAID ABOUT THE PROGRAMS CAN, UH, LOWER, LOWER TO MODERATE INCOME RESIDENTS GET THAT, GET THE FUNDING. 
          WILL THEY, WILL THEY BE PUTTING THEMSELVES INTO DEBT FOR THESE NEW SOLAR OPTIONS THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE FOR THESE NEW WEATHERIZATION OPTIONS THAT WE STILL AREN'T SURE WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK LIKE? UM, I HAVE RESIDENTS IN MY DISTRICT AS, UH, COUNCILWOMAN, UH, R GARCIA MENTIONED THAT DID GO INTO DEBT TO GET THE SOLAR PANELS. 
          SO WHILE THEIR, THEIR, UH, MONTHLY BILL WENT DOWN TO 150, THEY STILL HAVE $150 SOLAR PAYMENT. 
          THEY HAVE TO MAKE, WHILE I, I CAN GET A NEW AC SYSTEM AND GET A REBATE, I'M, I'M STILL NOT SEEING THE, MY RATE GO LOWER BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE WEATHERIZATION AND THE INSULATION. 
          AND I KNOW THAT C P S IS WORKING VERY HARD. 
          YVONNE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE INFORMATION THAT YOU SENT MY WAY AND, AND LET, I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THIS IS NOT AN EASY DECISION, BUT I, I LOOKED THROUGH EVERYTHING AND RICK, YOU HAVE DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB OF TRYING TO BRING INFORMATION FORWARD, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE PROGRAMS THAT I CAN DEFINITIVELY GO OUT INTO MY DISTRICT AND SAY, YOU'D BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS, THIS WOULD WORK FOR YOU. 
          AND IT IS BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS TODAY. 
          AND IF IT DOES PASS, KNOW THAT I WILL BE ASKING A LOT OF QUESTIONS. 
          AND I'M SURE THE RATE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, BUT AGAIN, I WILL ATTEST IF WE DID GENERAL, WE CANNOT DO THIS IN A SILO, AND WE CONTINUE TO INSIST TO DO THIS IN A SILO. 
          AND IT'S EVIDENT ON THE TIMELINE THAT WAS PRESENTED BECAUSE THERE WAS NO MARK FOR OUR, OUR RATE INCREASE THAT WE PROVIDED AND NO MARK FOR THE $20 MILLION WE PROVIDED IN UTILITY ASSISTANCE. 
          AND I'M NOT OKAY WITH LOOKING AT THINGS IN SILOS ANYMORE. 
          WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE OF WHAT PEOPLE ARE PAYING FOR, FOR THEIR UTILITIES. 
          AND I JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH CERTAINTY THAT, THAT THIS IS GONNA BENEFIT THE SOUTHERN SECTOR. 
          AND THE ONE THING I CAN SAY IS, DID THIS PROGRAM, WAS THIS THIS PROGRAM SUCCESSFUL IN REDUCING DEMAND? YES, IT WAS. 
          BUT I WILL, I WILL ECHO THAT. 
          IF WE DO NOT GET GENERATIONAL PLANNING UNDER CONTROL, WE WILL HAVE TO START BUYING OFF THE GRID AND WE WILL START, WE WILL HAVE TO START BUYING. 
          AND THAT IS NOT WHAT I WANNA SEE. 
          SO WE NEED TO MAKE THAT A 
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PRIORITY, AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A PRIORITY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER GRO. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          BRAVO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO ONE THING I DON'T LIKE ABOUT THIS IS THAT IT'S BEING BROUGHT TO US AT THE LAST MINUTE, AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALL THIS PRESSURE, YOU GOTTA APPROVE THIS, OTHERWISE THERE COULD BE A GAP IN FUNDING OR IT WON'T GO THROUGH OR WHATEVER. 
          AND, AND, AND SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THESE BEING, THESE ISSUES BEING BROUGHT TO US FOR APPROVAL AT AN EARLIER DATE SO THAT WE CAN WEIGH IN, SEND IT BACK, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AND THEN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO, UH, TO HAVE IT, IM IMPROVED AND HAVE, HAVE WHAT'S ULTIMATELY PROPOSED, BE MORE REFLECTIVE OF WHAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN SUPPORTING. 
          UM, AUSTIN, I MEAN, RUDY, YOU, YOU, UH, YOU DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF COMPARING AUSTIN ENERGY AND THE C P S ENERGY. 
          UH, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID. 
          UH, I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO COMPARE OURSELVES TO THEM. 
          I WAS JUST BRINGING IT UP BECAUSE I HAPPENED TO WORK FOR AUSTIN ENERGY 22 YEARS AGO, AND I WAS BRINGING THAT BACKGROUND INTO THE CONVERSATION. 
          UM, I THINK ONE THING THAT AUSTIN ENERGY AND C P SS ENERGY HAVING IN COMMON IS WE WANT TO KEEP THE POWER ON DURING EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ABSOLUTELY DO HAVE IN COMMON. 
          AND YOU KNOW, LAST SUNDAY, UH, OUR STATE BROKE THEIR RECORD FOR THE, THE MOST DEMAND WE'VE EVER HAD ON THE TEXAS GRID. 
          AND SO THIS IS NOT, UM, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE JUST GONNA GENERATE OUR WAY OUT OF. 
          AND IN TERMS OF ELECTRICITY, IT'S NOT, IT'S SOMETHING, NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE JUST GONNA CONSERVE OUR WAY OUT OF. 
          IT'S, IT'S A COMBINATION OF BOTH. 
          AND RUDY, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE ANNUAL BUDGET FOR C P S ENERGY? WELL, UH, WE PROBABLY HAVE ABOUT A ONE POINT, I DON'T KNOW, COREY, 1.6 BILLION, CAPITAL 1.6 BILLION. 
          SO THIS IS, OH MA'AM, GIVE OR TAKE, SO THIS RE THIS, THIS ASK US FOR 70 MILLION A YEAR OUT OF 1.6 BILLION, I WOULDN'T CALL THIS US TRYING TO CONSERVE OUR WAY OUT OF, UH, CONSERVATION IS A PIECE OF THE EQUATION, BUT IT IS NOT THE SOLUTION. 
          CORRECT. 
          IT'S A PIECE OF THE EQUATION. 
          UM, SO THE PROGRAM, AS YOU'RE PRESENTING IT ISN'T WHAT I WANT TO SEE. 
          UM, I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SEND YOU, YOU KNOW, TACK A BUNCH OF AMENDMENTS ONTO IT AND SEND YOU BACK. 
          UH, I'M NOT IN THAT POSITION. 
          I BELIEVE WHAT I'VE BEEN PROPOSING THOUGH, ADDRESSES A LOT OF WHAT COUNCILWOMAN ROCHA GARCIA ARTICULATED A LOT OF HER CONCERNS, A LOT OF COUNCILWOMAN VIA GROUND'S CONCERNS, UM, ABOUT HOW IT'S, HOW THESE RESOURCES ARE BEING DISTRIBUTED. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, IT'S THAT, THAT DATA-DRIVEN APPROACH OF CHOOSING WHO YOU OFFER THIS TO AND BEING PROACTIVE. 
          AND WHEN, WHEN YOU, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU ALL HAVE SOME PEOPLE IN DOCKING DOORS UP HERE. 
          THERE'S 11 PEOPLE IN FRONT OF YOU WHO ARE EXPERTS AT KNOCKING DOORS. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW WE GOT HERE. 
          SO PLEASE COME TO US AND, AND LEAN ON US WHEN IT COMES TO HOW YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO MORE BE MORE EFFECTIVE AT THOSE DOORS AND GETTING PEOPLE TO OPT IN. 
          UM, WHAT WAS MY LAST POINT? UM, YOU, OH, FREQUENCY OF UPDATES. 
          YOU KNOW, THIS IS A NEW PROGRAM THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, AND SO THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF CHANGES EARLY ON AND TWEAKS TO GET IT RIGHT. 
          UM, AND THEN YOU MIGHT GET INTO A POINT WHERE YOU'RE KIND OF IN CRUISE CONTROL AND YOU'RE JUST GONNA BE MOVING FORWARD. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED, I THINK WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE YOU COME BEFORE US QUARTERLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS CHAIR OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL STAKEHOLDERS THAT TO MEET FOR MEETINGS WITH C P S ENERGY, WE MET WITH ALL OF YOUR SENIOR LEADERSHIP QUARTERLY. 
          SO I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S TOO MUCH FOR COUNCIL TO BE MEETING WITH YOU QUARTERLY, MAYBE AND MAYBE, BUT MAYBE IT'S JUST FOR THE FIRST YEAR ON FOR UPDATES ON THIS, AND THEN AFTER THAT MAYBE WE GO TO TWICE A YEAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          BUT I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE REGULAR CHECK-INS EARLY ON. 
          YOU GOT IT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER BRAVO. 
          AND LET ME JUST, UH, MAKE A FEW BRIEF COMMENTS BEFORE WE GET TO THE VOTE HERE. 
          UM, FIRST OF ALL, GRAHAM HOPEFULLY WILL WORK AS WE DESIGN IT. 
          UM, AND I CAN TELL YOU UNEQUIVOCALLY SITTING HERE FOR THE LAST ALMOST 10 YEARS, WHEN WE HAD THE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE PREVIOUS STEP, THE PROGRAM WAS NOT DESIGNED TO ACHIEVE A LEVEL OF EQUITY. 
          IT JUST WASN'T, IT WAS DESIGNED TO ACHIEVE A TOTAL SYSTEM SAVINGS IN TERMS OF DEMAND REDUCTION. 
          JUST SO HAPPENS THAT PARTS OF THE PROGRAM PERFORM DIFFERENTLY IN AREAS OF TOWN. 
          UH, ONE OF THE AREAS THAT, UH, PERFORMED WELL IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, UH, OVER AND ABOVE OTHER PLACES OF TOWN WAS THE COMMERCIAL SAVINGS. 
          UH, AND LET ME JUST SAY VERY CLEARLY, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO MANAGE A COMMERCIAL SIDE OF THIS AS WELL BECAUSE THE COMMERCIAL SIDE WILL COST THE UTILITY AROUND 20% OF THE TOTAL PROGRAM COSTS, BUT IT'S GONNA SAVE THE UTILITY ABOUT 40% OF THE ENERGY DEMAND REDUCTION. 
          SO THERE'S A BENEFIT TO 
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THE ENTIRE SYSTEM, WHICH INCLUDES ALL OF US, ALL RATE PAYERS WHEN WE HAVE THAT PART OF THE PROGRAM. 
          BUT THE PROGRAM TODAY IS BEING DESIGNED FROM THE FOUNDATION AT EVERY SINGLE BOARD MEETING ON THIS NOTION OF EQUITY THAT WE WANNA START FILLING IN AND PROVIDING BENEFIT TO THE CUSTOMERS WHO FRANKLY HAVE BEEN PAYING FOR THIS PROGRAM FOR THE LAST 12 YEARS AND NOT RECEIVING THE SAME LEVEL OF BENEFIT. 
          THAT'S THE WAY WE'RE DESIGNING. 
          WHETHER IT PERFORMS THAT WAY OR NOT IS GONNA BE UP TO US ACCOUNTABILITY. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I THINK I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU JUST SAID, COUNCILMAN BRAVO, WE BRAVO. 
          WE WANT TO SEE THIS BACK BECAUSE AT THE FRONT END OF THIS PROGRAM AND HOW WE START TO IMPLEMENT IT, WE'RE GONNA WANT TO MAKE SOME CHANGES IF IT'S NOT, IF IT'S NOT PERFORMING PROPERLY. 
          BUT WE ARE DESIGNING THIS PROGRAM TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED ON THE DAAS. 
          SO I, I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE DISCUSSION. 
          UH, I DON'T AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID ABOUT IT, OBVIOUSLY, AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF US DOES, BUT WE CAN AGREE ON THIS. 
          WE ARE DESIGNING A PROGRAM TO ADDRESS EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED IN TERMS OF CHALLENGES WITH THE PREVIOUS STEP AND GET THE BENEFIT THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE PREVIOUS STEP AS WELL. 
          UH, THAT BEING SAID, IF IT PERFORMS, THEN THE FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN MISSING OUT ON THIS BENEFIT, BUT PAYING INTO THE SYSTEM ARE GONNA FINALLY SEE THEIR FAIR SHARE. 
          AND I'M CONFIDENT ABOUT THAT. 
          SO, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GREAT DISCUSSION, RUDY AND TEAM. 
          EXCELLENT JOB. 
          UH, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN TRYING TO ANSWER EVERY QUESTION AND DELIVER EVERY MAP AND DATA POINT. 
          UH, IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO DO IT, BUT YOU'VE BEEN DOING YOUR BEST AND WE APPRECIATE IT. 
          SO WITH THAT, UH, WE'RE GONNA GO MOVE TO A VOTE. 
          NOW WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER SIX. 
          PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          ALRIGHT, WE WILL MOVE NOW TO, UM, I KNOW FOLKS ARE HERE, UH, FOR THE TWO O'CLOCK ZONING. 
          I APOLOGIZE, THIS HAS BEEN A VERY LONG MEETING ALREADY. 
          WE'VE GOT A COUPLE MORE ITEMS TO GET THROUGH AND THEN WE'LL MOVE RIGHT INTO OUR ZONING, UM, OUR ZONING AGENDA WITHOUT ANY BREAKS. 
          SO JUST HANG TIGHT AND WE'LL BE RIGHT, RIGHT WITH Y'ALL. 
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I'LL START WITH ITEM 19. 
          ITEM 19 IS AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE ISSUANCE BY THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST, PUBLIC SAFETY PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION OF ITS MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING REVENUE BONDS, COUNTRY CLUB VILLAGE SERIES 2022, THE BONDS AND THE PURPOSES OF SECTION 1 7 1 47 F OF THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE. 
          AND IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST, PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATIONS ORGANIZATIONAL DOCUMENTS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I THINK THIS WAS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. 
          UH, AND AS FOLKS FILTER OUT OF THE CHAMBERS, IF YOU CAN PLEASE, UM, KEEP THE CONVERSATIONS DOWN LOW SO WE CAN KEEP WORKING THROUGH BUSINESS COUNCIL MEMBER CUR. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UH, I WANTED TO BRING THIS UP. 
          UH, WE, UH, FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS A VERY GOOD PROJECT. 
          I THINK IT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRYING TO CREATE MORE WORKFORCE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT WILL HAVE, UH, ABOUT 280 UNITS, UH, AND ABOUT 80 OF THOSE UNITS ARE GOING TO BE GEARED TOWARDS SENIOR CITIZENS, AND THEY'LL BE PAYING ABOUT 30% OF THE AVERAGE MEDIAN INCOME TOWARDS THEIR RENT. 
          THE REST OF THE UNITS ARE GEARED TOWARDS 60%, WHICH IS, UH, AGAIN, VERY AFFORDABLE. 
          AND, AND THESE ARE, I THINK, THE KINDS OF PROJECTS THAT WE HOPE TO SEE COME FORWARD TO US. 
          SO I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT, BUT ONE PART OF THIS PROJECT THAT WAS SIMILAR TO A PROJECT, TWO PROJECTS WE HAD LAST TIME WAS THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN FUNDS THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL PAY TO THE CITY AS PART OF ITS SERVICE CHARGE TO THE CITY THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, AS WE DID LAST TIME, BE DEVOTED INTO A, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND AS OPPOSED TO JUST INTO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          SO MY MOTION IS THAT THIS ITEM BE APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL WITH THE CAVEAT THAT THE FEE PAID BY THE DEVELOPER TO THE CITY FOR ADMINISTRATIVE FEES GOES INTO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND, AS WE HAD SUGGESTED. 
          AND OUR TWO SIMILAR, UH, ARE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS LAST WEEK. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, ONE SECOND, ANDY. 
          UM, DO WE NEED A BASE MOTION FIRST? WELL, WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD BE AKIN TO A FRIENDLY MOTION COUNCILMAN, UNLESS THERE'S ANOTHER COUNCIL PERSON THAT, THAT OBJECTS YOU, YOU CAN FOLD THAT INTO THE, IN OTHER WORDS, COUNCILMAN, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE CAVEAT THAT THE, UH, FEE WILL GO TO THE HOUSING FUND. 
          A HOUSING FUND, RIGHT. 
          AFFORDABLE 
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HOUSING FUND. 
          YES. 
          SO UNLESS SOMEBODY OBJECTS TO THAT MAYOR IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I THINK WE CAN START WITH THAT MOTION. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE WE DO HAVE DISCUSSION ON THAT. 
          SO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, IF YOU CAN JUST, UM, MAKE A, A MOTION TO APPROVE ON 19, THEN WE, THEN WE'LL, WE CAN PLACE THAT OTHER MOTION ON THE FLOOR. 
          I'M SORRY, I JUST THOUGHT I MADE A MOTION. 
          IT SAYS I APPROVE 19. 
          RIGHT, BUT THE, WITH THE CAVEAT THAT, UH, YEAH, WE, WE NEED A MOTION ON THE ITEM AND THEN WE'LL AMEND WITH YOUR CHANGE. 
          WELL, I DISAGREE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A DIFFERENT MOTION THAN WHAT I PREPARED. 
          THERE WAS NO OTHER MOTION ON THE BOARD. 
          THE COUNCILMAN, IT APPEARS THAT, UH, ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS TO DISCUSS THE ITEM SEPARATELY. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S WHY. 
          SO LET'S GET A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 19. 
          OKAY. 
          I MOVE THAT. 
          ITEM NUMBER 19, BE APPROVED. 
          ALRIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 19. 
          NOW, UM, INBOUNDS, IF YOU CAN MAKE YOUR MOTION TO, UH, ON THE CHANGE, I MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND MY OWN MOTION THAT THE ADDITIONAL COST THAT'S GIVEN TO THE CITY FOR ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES FOR THIS BE DEDICATED TO OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND. 
          ALL RIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION, A SECOND FOR, UH, ADDRESSING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUDGET ITEM. 
          AND, AND NOW THE DISCUSSION MAYOR IS SIMPLY ON THE, ON THE AMENDMENT. 
          SO WE'LL GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER GRO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AS STATED AS LAST WEEK, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION BECAUSE WE WORKED AT THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST TO BRING IT OUT. 
          WE HAVE A PLANNING COMMITTEE THAT I THINK THIS NEEDS TO GO BACK TO. 
          SO, ANDY, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN MAKE AN, A MOTION TO PULL THIS ITEM TO SEND BACK TO THE PLANNING TO COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS THIS. 
          WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU SAY THIS, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE AMENDMENT COUNCILWOMAN THE AMENDMENT, OR DO WE JUST HAVE TO, TO VOTE ON IT NOW? NO, IT COULD BE A MOTION TO DELAY, UM, THE CONSIDERATION OF THE AMENDMENT, UH, TO A ANOTHER DATE. 
          UM, SO I MAKE A MOTION TO DELAY, UH, UNTIL, UNTIL THIS CAN GO TO THE PLANNING, UH, COMMITTEE. 
          THERE'S A MOTION ON DELAY IN DISCUSSION AT THE PLANNING COMMITTEE FOR THE MOVING OF THE FUNDS INTO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND AND A SECOND. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO YEAH, GO AHEAD, BEN. 
          ONE COMMENT ON THE ITEM ITSELF. 
          SO THIS IS A, I'VE GOT STAFF CHECKING, BUT THIS IS A, UH, 1 47 F CONSENTING TO A, A TAX EXEMPT BOND FINANCING. 
          UH, A LITTLE BIT OF CAUTION ON DELAYING THE BOND FINANCING PART OF IT. 
          I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY AS YOU'VE READ, AS YOU'VE WATCHED, THE MARKETS ARE PRETTY TURBULENT. 
          UM, DELAY COULD, COULD JEOPARDIZE THE PROJECT'S ABILITY TO GET BOND FINANCING. 
          SO IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION REGARDING THE FEES SEPARATELY, THAT MIGHT BE A, A BETTER APPROACH. 
          EXCUSE ME, BEN. 
          THAT'S EXACTLY, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING. 
          IT'S NOT, THE ONLY THING THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED LATER IS WHERE THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEE GOES. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT. 
          ALL RIGHT, HEARING NONE, WE WILL VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT, WHICH IS TO MOVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEE INTO THE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY FUND. 
          ALL RIGHT, THERE ARE NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. 
          PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          WE'LL MOVE TO THE BASE MOTION, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF ITEM 19. 
          ANY DISCUSSION ON ITEM 19? THE MOTION, THE RACE MOTION? AND THAT WAS A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE HEARING. 
          NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          OKAY, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM 24. 
          ITEM 24 IS AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AN AMENDMENT TO THE CONTRACT WITH BETH PAGE CONSULTING L L C TO PROVIDE TWO LICENSED ATHLETIC TRAINERS FOR THE SAN ANTONIO FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          SS A F D IN THE ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $162,840 ANNUAL ANNUALLY FOR A THREE YEAR CONTRACT TERM IN THE AMOUNT OF $488,520. 
          THE CONTRACT INCLUDES AN OPTION TO EXTEND FOR TWO ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR PERIODS. 
          FUNDING IS AVAILABLE THROUGH THE F Y 2022 GENERAL FUND BUDGET FUNDING FOR SUBSEQUENT YEARS IS CONTINGENT UPON CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET. 
          ALRIGHT, UH, LET'S, NOBODY SPOKE, SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. 
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SO LET ME, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM 20. 
          UH, ITEM 24. 
          OKAY, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 24. 
          ALL RIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? IS THERE A SECOND ON ITEM 24? SECOND. 
          ALL RIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION TO SECOND FOR ITEM 24. 
          UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CAVEO. 
          H. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          THERE'S SOME CONCERN ABOUT MAKING THESE POSITIONS CONTRACT POSITIONS INSTEAD OF INTERNAL CITY POSITIONS IN ORDER TO HAVE TIME TO DISCUSS, UNDERSTAND, AND POTENTIALLY ALTER THE RECOMMENDATION. 
          I MOVE TO DELAY THIS ITEM TO THE JUNE 23RD, A SESSION. 
          ALL RIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR DELAY OF ITEM 24. 
          ALL RIGHT, SO WE'LL BE, UM, THAT'S JUST A STRAIGHT UP MOTION. 
          ANDY, IT'S NOT A AMENDMENT CORRECT. 
          IT'S, IT TAKES PRECEDENT'S, A MOTION TO DELAY. 
          SO THE MOTION TO DELAY WOULD BE CONSIDERED FIRST. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO WE'LL DISCUSS THE DELAY. 
          DO WE NEED TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION? GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          SO WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS AN AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING CONTRACT FOR A LICENSED ATHLETIC TRAINER AT THE WELLNESS CENTER OF THE SAN ANTONIO FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          THE SERVICES PROVIDED BY THIS ATHLETIC TRAINER IS THERAPY AND FITNESS ASSESSMENTS. 
          THE CURRENT CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, WE ENTER INTO THIS AGREEMENT IN MARCH OF 2022. 
          AND THIS CONTRACT HAS BEEN WORKING VERY WELL FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          ONE OF THE BENEFITS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CONTRACT IS THAT IT PROVIDES COVERAGE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 7 45 TO FOUR 30, WHICH ARE THE OPERATING HOURS OF THE WELLNESS CENTER. 
          AND THIS IS AN ENHANCEMENT, UH, TO THE SERVICES RECEIVED BY THE FIREFIGHTERS AS THERE'S NO INTERRUPTION OF SERVICES. 
          SO THE CONTRACT PROVIDES COVERAGE FOR, FOR THAT, UH, CONTINUITY OF SERVICES DURING THAT TIME. 
          THE AMENDMENT THAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY WILL ADD A SECOND ATHLETIC TRAINER TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE BOTH THE THERAPY AND THE FITNESS ASSESSMENTS THAT I MENTIONED THAT IS CURRENTLY PROVIDED BY THE CURRENT CONTRACT. 
          THIS WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL AVAILABILITY OF SERVICES TO OUR FIREFIGHTERS. 
          ADDITIONALLY, YOU MAY RECALL AT THE GOAL SETTING SESSION, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF EXPANDING THE SERVICES PROVIDED AT THE WELLNESS CENTERS TO OUR FIREFIGHTERS TO OTHER, UH, CITY EMPLOYEES. 
          SO WE ARE GONNA BE EXPLORING THAT POSSIBILITY DURING THE SUMMER FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING PUBLIC WORKS, SOLID WASTE PARKS, AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          SO AGAIN, THIS IS A SERVICE THAT IS A BENEFIT TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE OF THE CONTINUITY OF SERVICES. 
          SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING, UH, YOUR APPROVAL FOR THIS ACTION. 
          BOTH THE FIRE CHIEF AND MYSELF ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, MARIA. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. 
          YEAH, MARIA, FROM WHAT YOU JUST SAID, IS IT PART OF OUR CURRENT CONTRACT WITH THE FIREFIGHTER TO PROVIDE FOR THIS TRAINER? AND DOES, AND IS IT IN THE CONTRACT SAYING THAT IT COULD BE OR SHOULD BE AN OUTSIDE RATHER THAN A FIREFIGHTER EMPLOYEE COUNCILMAN? AND I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT? YES. 
          YES. 
          UH, IT IS NOT. 
          SO THE DECISION, THIS IS A CIVILIAN EMPLOYEE THAT WAS, UH, FORMERLY PROVIDING THE SERVICES PRIOR TO MARCH, 2022. 
          SO THAT IS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY MANAGER. 
          OKAY. 
          IT IS NOT PART OF THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING IS ADDING A SECOND PERSON TO DO THE SAME WORK? THAT IS CORRECT. 
          SO WE HAD A TEMPORARY EMPLOYEE THAT WE HIRED IN MARCH OF 2022. 
          THE FULL-TIME CITY EMPLOYEE SEPARATED FROM THE CITY IN, UH, LATE FEBRUARY, EARLY MARCH. 
          SO THIS WILL ALLOW US TO, UM, ADD A, A SECOND ATHLETIC TRAINER. 
          WAS THAT PERSON WHO SEPARATED FROM THE CITY FORMALLY IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? YES, SHE WAS AN EMPLOYEE, A CIVILIAN EMPLOYEE IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          MAYOR, IF I MAY, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND THE COUNCIL THERE'S A MOTION TO DELAY ON THE TABLE. 
          SO ANY DISCUSSION, DELIBERATION SHOULD FOCUS ON MOTION TO DELAY RATHER THAN THE MERITS OF THE ITEM? WELL, I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S POSSIBLE, , BECAUSE THE MERITS OF 
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DELAY ARE BASED IN THE CONTENT OF THE ANSWERS ABOUT THE CONTRACT. 
          OKAY. 
          ERIC, DID YOU WANT TO CLARIFY ANYTHING? I WAS JUST GONNA, UM, REITERATE, UH, MORE TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILMAN. 
          UM, THIS IS A, UM, THIS IS A BENEFIT, UH, THAT BOTH THE CITY AND THE EMPLOYEES GET BECAUSE OF THE ATHLETIC TRAINERS, UM, AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WHO MAY SUSTAIN INJURIES. 
          UM, SO IT WAS A PROGRAM THAT WAS CREATED IN THAT SENSE TO GET FOLKS BACK TO WORK SOONER, UM, AND, UM, IS A BENEFIT TO ALL OF US. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THAT CAME UP WITH THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES WORK SESSION IN APRIL ABOUT HOW ARE WE, CAN WE PROVIDE THIS TYPE OF SERVICE TO, UM, OTHER, UM, ASPECTS OF OUR ORGANIZATION. 
          UH, IS IT A MANDATED SERVICE? IN OTHER WORDS, WILL ANYONE BE FORCED TO GO TO THESE PEOPLE FOR SERVICES? NO, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          NO, SIR. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER VIA GRANT? UH, I, I ACCEPT MY CHAIR OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. 
          UM, UH, COUNCILMAN KABE. 
          HVAR DOES, UH, DELAY I THINK ONE WEEK TO KIND OF DISCUSS IT AND MAYBE TAKE IT OUT TO, UM, OTHERS THAT MIGHT WANNA INPUT. 
          I THINK THIS ISN'T ANY REFLECTION ON WHAT THE CITY HAS DONE OR WHAT YOU PRESENTED. 
          IT'S JUST A LITTLE MORE TIME TO GET THIS DONE. 
          SO, UH, THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU LOOK LIKE YOU WANNA SPEAK INTO THE MIC. 
          ERIC, YOU'RE LEANING FORWARD. 
          NO, I'M, I'M, I'M READY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION. 
          UM, SO I REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION AT THE GOAL SETTING SESSION. 
          IN FACT, I REMEMBER SEVERAL OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS I'VE BEEN A RECIPIENT OF THE BENEFIT OF THAT WELLNESS, UM, WHEN I SCREWED UP MY BACK A FEW YEARS AGO. 
          AND IT'S INCREDIBLE. 
          AND THE INTENT OF THE WELLNESS CENTER IS TO GET FOLKS BACK ON THE JOB, UH, TO REDUCE COST TO HEALTH INSURANCE AND ALL THAT STUFF. 
          GET FOLKS WELL WHO ARE IN HIGH CONTACT CAREERS, UH, IN NAMELY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, SO I'VE, I'VE BEEN A, A PROPONENT OF THIS AS PART OF OUR OVERALL WELLNESS STRATEGY FOR QUITE SOME TIME. 
          UM, OBVIOUSLY NOT FOLLOWING IT VERY CLOSELY. 
          SO MY UNDERSTANDING NOW IS THAT WE HAD AN ATHLETIC TRAINER, UH, WHO SEPARATED FROM THE CITY EARLY THIS YEAR. 
          WHEN THAT HAPPENED, WE HIRED A TEMP. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          IT IS A CONTRACT EMPLOYEE FROM, UH, THE SAME COMPANY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO AMEND THE CONTRACT WITH TODAY. 
          SO UNDER THE CURRENT CONTRACT, WE HIRED A TEMP. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO THAT, THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE. 
          THAT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE. 
          IT IS. 
          SO THE EFFECT OF A DELAY WOULD DO WHAT? IT WOULD JUST DELAY THE ABILITY FOR US TO GET THE SECOND ATHLETIC TRAINER. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT, BUT OVER THE COURSE OF A WEEK, NOTHING. 
          RIGHT. 
          IF IF WE, IF IT'S DELAYED TO THE 23RD, SO NO EFFECT IMPACT OF A DELAY OVER THE COURSE OF A WEEK. 
          RIGHT. 
          THE REAL EFFECT IS NOTHING IN THE SEVEN DAYS. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT IN TERMS OF BIG PICTURE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO FROM THE GOAL SETTING SESSION AND WHY I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE SUBSTANCE TO THIS CONVERSATION THAN JUST THE, THE WEAK DELAY IS WE ARE, WE ARE WANTING TO SEE THIS BENEFIT, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE HIGH IMPACT AND WE KNOW WE HAVE OTHER HIGH IMPACT, UH, OR HIGH CONTACT KINDS OF JOBS WITHIN THE CITY, UH, EMPLOYEE RANKS. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, SOLID WASTE. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO ALSO, YOU KNOW, THEORETICALLY WITH THIS KIND OF WELLNESS PROGRAM WOULD SEE THE SAME KIND OF BENEFIT OR CLOSE TO IT. 
          UM, IS THAT IN THE WORKS? WELL, I, IT IS. 
          AND I THINK, I THINK BECAUSE OF THE PERSONNEL CHANGE WE HAD IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE CONVERTED OVER TO A TEMPORARY CONTRACT. 
          WHAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS SEEN IS THAT THE, THE, THE EASE AND ACCESS AND THE LEVEL OF SERVICES HAS ENHANCED UNDER THE CONTRACT. 
          UM, IF WE EXPAND IT, AND WE'LL DO THAT THIS SUMMER AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET. 
          IF WE LOOK TO EXPAND IT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SOLID WASTE AND PUBLIC WORKS AND PARKS, UM, UH, I'M NOT GONNA JUMP AHEAD OF MYSELF WITH THE PROPOSED BUDGET, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA HIRE A BUNCH OF CITY EMPLOYEE PHYSICAL THERAPISTS TO DO THAT. 
          THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD PROBABLY COME BACK IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND CONTRACT OUT AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AND EXPAND THE ENTIRE PIPELINE. 
          SO, UM, I THINK THE, THE POLICE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S EXPERIENCE, ALTHOUGH NOT PLANNED BECAUSE OF THE EMPLOYEE DEPARTURE, WE'VE SEEN THAT THAT CONTRACT ABILITY GIVES US A, A BETTER LEVEL OF SERVICE AND WE'LL, WE'LL EVALUATE THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THE SUMMER. 
          SO THE INTENT OF ADDING AN ADDITIONAL ATHLETIC TRAINER TODAY OR NEXT WEEK, UM, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ACHIEVE WITH THAT? IN THE INTERIM, BEFORE THE F Y 23 BUDGETS APPROVED IS TO INCREASE THE SERVICE TO THE FIREFIGHTERS. 
          SO RIGHT NOW, WHAT 
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THE CURRENT ATHLETIC, UH, TRAINER IS DOING DO IS DOING BOTH THERAPY AND, UH, PHYSICAL ASSESSMENTS. 
          THE PHYSICAL ASSESSMENT IS SOMETHING NEW, UH, WITH THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT. 
          WE, UM, APPROVE, UM, INCENTIVES FOR, UH, FIREFIGHTERS THAT THEY MET CERTAIN QUALIFICATIONS. 
          SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S AN ADDED SERVICE. 
          WE HAD A, UM, UH, WE HAD TO DELAY SOME OF THE SERVICES DUE TO C OVID 19. 
          WE ACTUALLY HAD STARTED TO CONTRACT WITH THIS COMPANY IN LATE 2019, BUT BECAUSE OF, OF C OVID 19, WE, WE, WE STOPPED DOING THAT. 
          SO THIS WILL GIVE US THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND BE ABLE TO ENHANCE THE SERVICE TO THE FIREFIGHTERS BY HAVE, BY HAVING MORE AVAILABILITY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF, IF THIS WERE TO PASS TODAY OR, OR NEXT WEEK, THE, THE BASE OF ELIGIBLE EMPLOYEES WHO WOULD RECEIVE THIS BENEFIT IS NOT GROWING AT THE SAME TIME? IT'S, IT'S MORE CAPACITY, IF YOU WILL. 
          SO WE CAN DO MORE APPOINTMENTS? NO, JUST THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          THAT'S, YEAH, IT'S JUST THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          THIS IS THE ONLY, IT'S NOT GROWING WITH THIS ADDITIONAL TRAINER. 
          NO, IT DIDN'T, NO, WE, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE, I MEAN, THE TWO TWO INDIVIDUALS, WE HAVE 1800 FIREFIGHTERS AND, AND SO IF WE EXPANDED IT TO OTHER EMPLOYEE GROUPS, WE'D HAVE TO ADD RESOURCE. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT. 
          SO F Y 23, THE, THE CONVERSATION IN JULY AND AUGUST IS GONNA BE, WHAT IS THE CAPACITY THAT WE NEED IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF TRAINERS, WHAT KIND OF TRAINERS THEY ARE, WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BE, RIGHT. 
          UH, LOCATED AND ALL THAT STUFF. 
          ALRIGHT, WELL I'M VERY INTERESTED IN THAT DISCUSSION. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND FRANKLY I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE DELAYING, I REALLY DON'T, IF IT'S JUST TO BENEFIT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          I, BUT I, I DO APPRECIATE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PUBLIC SAFETY CHAIR'S PERSPECTIVE ON THIS. 
          UM, I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE SHOULD HAVE CONVERSATION. 
          WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS INNOVATED IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT OUR NATIONAL MODELS, OUR WHOLE BLOOD PROGRAM, FOR INSTANCE, THIS IS ONE I SHOULD, WE'VE SAID BEFORE, WE DON'T WANNA OVERLOOK. 
          I THINK WE WERE ONE OF THE FEW CITIES IN THE COUNTRY THAT HAD THIS AND OTHER CITIES WE'RE ASKING US HOW TO IMPLEMENT IT. 
          SO WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE, WE SHOULD STRIVE TO BE THAT NATIONAL MODEL. 
          I DON'T WANT TO, UM, DILUTE THE IMPACT. 
          SO LET'S REALLY DIG INTO THIS AND FIGURE OUT IF WE'RE GONNA EXPAND THE PROGRAM, LET'S KEEP IT THE BEST PROGRAM IN THE COUNTRY. 
          CAN WE DO THAT? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, IF THAT'S THE CASE, UM, AGAIN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE DELAYING, BUT I'LL, I'LL BE OKAY WITH IT. 
          SO, UM, LET'S TAKE UP, UH, LET'S TAKE UP THE DELAY. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          UM, I, I'M, I'M SURE WE ALL UNDERSTAND, UH, THE WORK THAT OUR FIREFIGHTERS PUT AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT THEY ARE IN GREAT PHYSICAL HEALTH, UM, IN ORDER TO COMPLETE THEIR TASK. 
          SO, UM, I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH A ONE WEEK DELAY ON THIS VOTE. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO. 
          ALRIGHT, UM, WERE YOU QUEUED IN? COUNCIL MEMBER, GABE? OKAY. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S IT ON THE DISCUSSION FOR THE DELAY. 
          SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE UP THE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          OKAY, WE'LL WE'LL BRING THIS BACK NEXT WEEK. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE SO SILENT. 
          ITEM NUMBER 29. 
          ITEM 29 IS AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE INNER CITY CHURCH, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND GRAYSON HEIGHTS L L C, FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 2,100,000 FOR THE GRAYSON HEIGHTS PROJECT LOCATED AT 1422 AND 1518 EAST GRAYSON IN COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO. 
          ALRIGHT, UM, LET ME ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM 29. 
          I MOVE TO APPROVE SECOND. 
          ALL RIGHT THERE. 
          MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 29. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ. 
          ALRIGHT, NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER BRAVO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO THIS IS AN ITEM THAT, UH, CAME BEFORE OUR, OUR INNER CITY TOURIST BOARD. 
          AND, UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. 
          I ACTUALLY ASKED, UM, COUNCILMAN MCKEE RODRIGUEZ, WHO CHAIRS THAT BOARD IF HE WOULD CHANGE THE ORDER OF OUR AGENDA ITEMS. UM, AND IN THAT MEETING WE WERE GONNA TALK ABOUT WHAT THE, WHAT WERE THE PRIORITIES, WHAT WERE THE GOALS OF THAT TOURS BOARD? AND I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS IS AN ASK FOR $2.1 MILLION, AND I BELIEVE THERE'S, MAYBE THERE'S LESS THAN 7 MILLION LEFT, UM, THAT THAT TOUR BOARD HAS TO DISTRIBUTE. 
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AND SO IT WAS GOING TO EAT UP A BIG CHUNK OF WHAT WE HAD IN THAT, IN THAT TOUR BOARD TO BE ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE, UH, IN ORDER TO REALLY, UM, HAVE AN IMPACT ON WHAT YOU KNOW, AND, AND, UH, TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS THAT WE WERE WORKING TOWARDS. 
          AND SO I'M GRATEFUL FOR COUNCILMAN MCKEE RODRIGUEZ, UH, FOR HAVING, UH, HONORED THAT AND, AND CHANGING THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA ITEMS. WE WERE ABLE TO, TO, TO CHANGE THAT. 
          AND THEN WE HAD A, A ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS PROJECT, AND WE WENT OVER ON TIME. 
          AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, I, I WASN'T CONVINCED AND I ABSTAINED ON MY VOTE. 
          AND SO IT WAS A TIE VOTE. 
          AND THEN SO PEOPLE STARTED, UH, URGING ME TO CAST MY VOTE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. 
          AND ULTIMATELY WHAT I DID IS I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? I WILL LET THIS, I WILL LET THIS PROJECT LIVE TO SEE ANOTHER DAY. 
          UM, AND SO I, WHAT I DECIDED WAS A LOT MORE OF THE INNER CITY T FALLS IN COUNCILMAN MCKEE RODRIGUEZ'S DISTRICT THAN IN DISTRICT ONE. 
          AND SO I SAID, YOU KNOW, I'LL FOLLOW HIS LEAD. 
          AND SO I DID. 
          AND SO HERE WE ARE TODAY. 
          I'VE HAD ANOTHER CHANCE TO MEET WITH THE APPLICANT, UH, HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS. 
          I EVEN HAD DAVID DELMAN CALLED ON YOUR BEHALF. 
          UH, WE HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION, UH, ABOUT THIS. 
          UM, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY WHERE I FALL IS THAT, THAT I HAVE BEEN CONSISTENTLY ENTERS BOARD MEETINGS, LETTING EVERY APPLICANT KNOW, AND NOT JUST THE APPLICANT, BUT I'LL SAY, I'M SAYING THIS FOR EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM, THAT I BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU BRING A PROJECT TO ME, THAT YOU SHOW, DEMONSTRATE THAT YOU'RE GOING FAR ABOVE AND BEYOND, UH, STANDARD BUILDING PRACTICES WHEN IT COMES TO ENERGY EFFICIENCY. 
          SO THIS IS SOMETHING, THIS IS ME BEING CONSISTENT HERE AND WHAT I WAS PUSHING FOR WITH THE C P S ENERGY VOTE, WHAT I'VE BEEN PUSHING FOR IN MANY OTHER, UH, WAYS. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I'M CONCERNED THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE ENOUGH, UH, TO REDUCE OUR ENERGY, UH, CONSUMPTION PER CAPITA HERE. 
          AND SO THIS IS A LEVER THAT I HAVE. 
          AND SO THIS PROJECT, YOU KNOW, DOES AN ALL RIGHT JOB ON ENERGY EFFICIENCY. 
          IT'S THE EQUIVALENT OF, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS IF IT, IF IT WERE, IT'S NOT A LEAD PROJECT, BUT IF IT WAS A LEAD CERTIFIED PROJECT, IT WOULD BE THE EQUIVALENT OF A BRONZE PROJECT. 
          AND SO IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M THERE, THERE ARE OTHER PRIORITIES THAT I HAD FOR, UM, WHAT, WHAT KIND OF INVESTMENTS WE WANT TO SEE, UH, THROUGH THE TURS BOARD. 
          AND SO I SEE, I FULLY RECOGNIZE THAT, UH, WE NEED TO BUILD, BUILD HOUSING AT ALL, UH, IN, AT EVERY, AT EVERY, UM, UH, COST LEVEL AND THAT WE NEED MORE HOUSING. 
          WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF HOUSING. 
          BUT THIS PROJECT DIDN'T STAND OUT TO ME IN ANY WAY. 
          AND SO FOR, FOR ME TO WANT TO INVEST PUBLIC DOLLARS TOWARDS THIS, I WOULD WANT TO SEE SOMETHING THAT'S CATALYTIC, SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA STAND OUT IN ANOTHER WAY, SOMETHING THAT GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND WHEN IT COMES TO ENERGY EFFICIENCY. 
          AND BECAUSE IN MY OPINION, FROM WHAT I SAW, I WASN'T CONVINCED THAT THIS PROJECT DID THAT. 
          I'M NOT GONNA SUPPORT THE PROJECT. 
          PERFECTLY UNDERSTANDING IF COUNCILMAN MCKEE RODRIGUEZ DOES, UM, I, YOU KNOW, UM, I, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA GET YOUR SECOND SHOT HERE BECAUSE I CAST MY VOTE TO, TO KEEP THE PROJECT ALIVE SO YOU CAN HAVE A ANOTHER CHANCE. 
          UM, AND THAT'S WHERE I STAND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER BRAVO. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          AND I ALSO WANNA THANK, UH, THE COUNCILMAN FOR PULLING THIS ITEM. 
          UH, I ASKED THE COUNCILMAN TO PULL THIS ITEM 'CAUSE I WANTED AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE CONSISTENT WITH MY VOTE AND COMMITTEE, WHICH WAS A VOTE NO, AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE CONSISTENT WITH MY POSITION AND VISION THAT PUBLIC DOLLARS SHOULD WORK FOR PUBLIC GOOD. 
          YES, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS QUICKLY GENTRIFYING, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO FEED THE BEAST. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S CONVERSATIONS AROUND COMMUNITY BENEFITS, BUT I'M NOT CONVINCED, UH, IAN, CAN YOU TELL ME THE AVERAGE COST OF ONE HOME OWNER REHAB PROJECT? THE AVERAGE COUNCILWOMAN? UH, DO YOU MEAN WITH ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS COMBINED? OR LIKE THE TYPICAL HOUSE, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE DEMOLITION MITIGATION PIPE PROGRAM. 
          HOW MUCH IS THAT FIRST HOUSEWORK FLOWING? THE DEMOLITION DIVERSION PROGRAM IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE. 
          I THINK IT'S AROUND $125,000. 
          SO WITH THE HOME REHAB PROGRAM, WHAT'S THE COST OF REHABBING THE AVERAGE HOUSE? I THINK WE'RE AT 110,000. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO WITH THAT, RIGHT, I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT APPLICANT WILL BE PUTTING 500 K INTO AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND TO BE USED FOR HOMEOWNER REPAIR WITHIN THAT AREA. 
          BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT 2.1 MILLION THAT WE'RE GIVING IN INCENTIVES, THAT'S ROUGHLY 84 MINOR REPAIR PROGRAMS. THAT'S ROUGHLY 210 UNDER ONE, EXCUSE ME, SORRY, THAT'S ROUGHLY, UM, 210, 
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UH, MINOR, UH, UNDER ONE ROOF PROGRAMMING AND 19 HOMEOWNER REHAB. 
          RIGHT? SO I, I'M SEEING AND HEARING THE ARGUMENT OF COMMUNITY BENEFIT, BUT THAT'S A DUST, RIGHT? THAT'S NOT GOING TO ALLOW US TO TACKLE, TACKLE WHAT WE NEED. 
          AND NO DOUBT, RIGHT? WE KNOW THAT MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENTS DO CAUSE NEIGHBORHOOD DESTABILIZATION AND FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A 100% MARKET RATE PROJECT IN DISTRICT FIVE, BUT GUESS WHAT? THE DEVELOPER'S GOING TO SHOULDER ALL THOSE COSTS. 
          SO I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD USE OUR PUBLIC DOLLARS FOR PUBLIC GOOD. 
          THIS PROJECT IS NOT IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, AND I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING IT. 
          I'M EXTREMELY CONCERNED THAT THIS IS A SECOND 100% MARKET RATE PROJECT GOING IN THE EAST SIDE FINANCE BY OUR PUBLIC DOLLARS. 
          AND NO DOUBT THIS IS GOING TO HAVE A RIPPLE EFFECT IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          AND WE DON'T NEED A STUDY TO STUDY THAT. 
          WE CAN LOOK AT CASE STUDIES THROUGHOUT THE NATION TO SEE WHAT PROJECTS OF THIS MAGNITUDE DO TO ECONOMICALLY POOR AREAS. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILS MEMBER CASTILLO. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UH, I'LL CHIME IN. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I FOUND MYSELF IN A VERY CHALLENGING POSITION WHEN I GOT ELECTED, AND IT'S FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. 
          THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WAS INHERITED, AND IT WAS A NUM, IT'S ONE OF MANY PROJECTS THAT WERE VETTED BY PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          AND THIS PROJECT SPECIFICALLY, UM, FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS SAID THAT THEY WANTED MARKET RATE HOUSING. 
          AND I WORKED WITH THE, WITH THE APPLICANT, SAID, HEY, CAN WE GET ANY AMOUNT OF AFFORDABILITY? AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOCKED IN BECAUSE OF HUD GUIDELINES. 
          AND SO, I'M GOING TO BE VERY HONEST, I WAS NOT INITIALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT, AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT ANY INCENTIVE GOING TO A PRIVATE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT SHOULD COME UP WITH SOME FORM OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          AND I RESPECT THE DESIRE TO ADD 500 K TO THE $2.1 MILLION OF THE $2.1 MILLION TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, BUT I HAVE TO ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT WE'RE A CITY WITH LIMITED RESOURCES AND PUBLIC DOLLARS, AND THEY SHOULD BE RESERVED FOR PUBLIC GOOD. 
          AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THIS, THESE REASONS I SUCCESSFULLY PROPOSED THE AMENDMENT FOR 500 K THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ALLOTTED GENERALLY TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND, BUT FOR IT TO BE SPECIFICALLY ALLOCATED WITHIN GOVERNMENT HILL FOR MINOR REPAIR, FOR OWNER-OCCUPIED REHAB AND UNDER ONE ROOF, I UNDERSTAND THE HESITATION, AND I STILL SHARE SOME OF THAT HESITATION, AND I AM INTERESTED IN SEEING HOW THIS VOTE IS GONNA GO. 
          BUT I WILL SAY THAT IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT, I EXPRESSED THAT THE LAST VOTE THAT I HAD WHERE, UM, IT WAS A TOURS AND IT WAS A, IT WAS ANOTHER PROJECT IN GOVERNMENT HILL THAT WAS MARKET RATE. 
          I WAS VERY, UM, I FELT ALMOST PRESSURED TO VOTE YES ON THAT ONE. 
          AND IT WAS FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. 
          IT COULD HAVE BEEN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I WAS LED TO BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LOSE THE VOTE COUNT OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE GONNA VOTE YES ANYWAY. 
          AND SO I WOULD LOSE, OR, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA BE VIEWED THIS CERTAIN TYPE OF WAY, AN ANTI-BUSINESS ANTI DEVELOPER. 
          AND I THINK THAT I MADE A VERY, I THINK THAT FIRST VOTE, I MADE A POOR DECISION WITH THIS ONE. 
          I WANTED TO NOT MAKE THAT SAME DECISION, THAT SAME DECISION. 
          AND SO THERE WERE SOME AMENITIES ADDED, SUCH AS A PUBLIC PARK. 
          THERE'S STREET LIGHTING, THE PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS TO THE STREET TAKES A PROJECT OFF OF THE I M P. 
          UM, THE BUSINESS THAT IS GONNA BE OPERATING, THE RESTAURANT THAT'S GONNA BE OPERATING IS GONNA BE A DISTRICT TWO FAMILY. 
          THE ART SHOWCASE IS GOING TO BE, UM, WAS IT A D TWO ARTIST OR WAS IT AN AFRICAN AMERICAN ART? A D TWO ARTIST WORK IS GOING TO BE SHOWED. 
          AND SO THERE WERE DIFFERENT KINDS OF INVESTMENTS THAT I WANTED TO SEE IF I WAS GOING TO BE COMFORTABLE ACCOMMODATING FOR MY PREDECESSORS COMMITMENTS. 
          AND SO I, I WANT TO ALSO STATE THAT THIS, THIS IS THE LAST OF MY INHERITED PROJECTS. 
          AND SO MOVING FORWARD, I WANT IT TO BE CLEAR THAT I'M LOOKING FOR SUBSTANTIAL COMMUNITY BUY-IN AND FEEDBACK. 
          THIS WAS A PROJECT WHERE YOU HAD MULTIPLE ENTITIES WITHIN GOVERNMENT HILL THAT DON'T OFTEN AGREE ON THINGS, AND THEY AGREED, UM, THEY AGREED ON THIS PROJECT. 
          I WANT TO SEE PUBLIC SPACES AND COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY BENEFIT, UM, TO INCLUDE DEEP AFFORDABILITY AND OR A SIGNIFICANT LEVEL OF INVESTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND THOSE ARE GONNA BE THE STANDARDS MOVING FORWARD. 
          AND I BELIEVE THAT I CAN VOTE YES ON THIS COMFORTABLY, WHEREAS I COULD NOT HAVE DONE THAT PREVIOUSLY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ. 
          GUYS, COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED ON THIS WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE, UH, FUNDING ASSISTANCE COMING FROM THE TURS. 
          AND THE REASON WHY IS I HAD A CONVERSATION 
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THE OTHER DAY WITH LORI HOUSTON AND I WAS TALKING ABOUT INCENTIVES AND, AND TURS INCENTIVES. 
          AND I, I BELIEVE I REMEMBER THE LAST THING SHE TOLD ME WAS, WELL, COUNCILMAN, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE TURS MONEY BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN REALLOCATING THOSE TURS MONIES FOR OTHER THINGS. 
          SO IT KIND OF SURPRISES ME THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S $2 MILLION OF TOURS MONEY FOR THIS, UH, PRIVATE VENTURE. 
          ALSO THE SAME THING. 
          THE, UH, THE SAME THOUGHT THAT COMES TO ME IS THAT ONE I'VE HEARD AND ONE I I, I THOUGHT WE BELIEVED IN AS A CITY, AND THAT IS THE GROWTH PAYS FOR GROWTH. 
          AND IF THIS IS A MARKET RATE, PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT IN AN AREA THAT IS CERTAINLY ABLE TO STAND ON ITS OWN AFTER IT'S BECOME A MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR VALUED AREA, I CAN'T SEE WHY THE CITY WOULD BE ADDING $2.1 MILLION GROWTH SHOULD PAY FOR GROWTH. 
          AND, UH, I THOUGHT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY TOURIST MONEY TO BEGIN WITH. 
          I GUESS WE CAN FIND IT IF WE NEED TO, BUT I'M GONNA BE VOTING NO ON THIS ISSUE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO. 
          WELL, LET, LET ME GIVE YOU A, MY PERSPECTIVE ON THIS BECAUSE I KNOW THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN IN THE PIPELINE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. 
          UH, AND I CERTAINLY AM SYMPATHETIC TO THE CONVERSATION ABOUT MEETING AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR LIMITED RESOURCES ARE USED FOR THE GREATEST PUBLIC GOOD. 
          UM, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE WAY WE DO HAVE DONE THESE PROJECTS AND, AND CONTRIBUTE TO THESE PROJECTS, THAT'S CHANGED OVER THE YEARS IN THE STRATEGIC CAPITAL IMPLEMENTATION PLANNER CONTINUE TO GUIDE US. 
          UH, BUT FROM A T'S STANDPOINT, THERE IS PUBLIC BENEFIT IN TWO WAYS. 
          FIRST, THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AROUND A PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT ARE, ARE OBVIOUSLY IN, IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. 
          UM, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, I THINK IT'S REALLY CRITICAL. 
          AND THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT THIS PROJECT, THAT IF WE DON'T, IF WE LOSE, UM, CONTROL OVER THE SUPPLY DEMAND AND BALANCE, UH, IN THE HOUSING ECOSYSTEM IN GENERAL, WHETHER THAT'S MARKET RATE, AFFORDABLE, DEEPLY AFFORDABLE, OR EVEN BEYOND MARKET RATE, WE ARE GOING TO SUFFER THE IMPACTS OF IT BROADLY AS A PUBLIC, IN PARTICULARLY AMONG THE MOST VULNERABLE MEMBERS OF OUR POPULATION. 
          SO WE ARE PHASING AWAY FROM THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT, BUT, BUT IN MY VIEW, UH, WE HAVE TO COMPLETE WHAT WE STARTED. 
          UH, WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE MINDFUL OF FACILITATING EVERY LEVEL OF, OF HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY. 
          SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE PROJECT. 
          UH, I HOPE IT'S SUCCESSFUL. 
          UH, I THINK IT WILL BE A GOOD ADDITION. 
          UM, AND SO, UH, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          I WANTED TO CHIME BACK IN 'CAUSE I WANNA BE SURE WE DON'T PERVERSE WHAT COMMUNITY BENEFITS ARE. 
          IF MANY OF OUR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS, IF THEY HAVE ISSUES WITH THEIR SIDEWALK OR APRON, THE CITY TELLS THEM THAT THAT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY. 
          SO US GIVING THIS NEW PROJECT IN THIS AREA, NEW SIDEBOX IS NOT A COMMUNITY BENEFIT. 
          SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO STRONGLY DISAGREE, BUT THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO. 
          ANY ERIC, GO AHEAD. 
          UH, UH, I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT COUNCILMAN COURAGE HAD SAID. 
          COUNCILMAN COURAGE. 
          I WAS, I WAS THERE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THAT THE OTHER DAY. 
          AND, AND, AND JUST FOR THE, FOR THE REST OF THE COUNCIL, THE, UM, THERE ARE PROJECTS AND THE MAYOR JUST MENTIONED THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE PIPELINE. 
          WHAT WE REFERRED TO THE OTHER DAY IS THAT CAPACITY WITHIN THE CITY TURS. 
          UM, WE UTILIZED FOR A NUMBER OF THE BOND PROJECTS THAT DIDN'T MAKE THE BOND PROJECT THE FINAL BOND PROJECT LIST, AND MOVED THEM TO BE FINANCED THROUGH THE TURS. 
          AND THAT WAS THE REFERENCE. 
          I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT, UM, THAT, UM, THAT DID NOT INCLUDE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE PIPELINE. 
          I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ERIC. 
          COUNCILS MEMBER GRO? YES. 
          UH, HOW, HOW, UH, THET COMMITTEE, HOW MANY MEMBERS ARE IN THET COMMITTEE? DOES ANYBODY HAVE THAT INFORMATION? THE INNER CITY TOURS, UH, IN THE INNER CITY TOUR COUNCIL ONE 14. 
          14. 
          AND, AND THIS DID PASS THE, UH, IT PASSED FROM THE INNER CITY TOUR TO GET HERE, CORRECT? IT DID. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UH, THOSE INNER CITY TOUR REPRESENTATIVES, THAT INCLUDES THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEN THE REST APPOINTED, UH, THAT APPLIED FOR IT, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          THERE'S ALSO, UH, REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE COUNTY, UM, S A I S D AND ALAMO COMMUNITY COLLEGES. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER GRO. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I I JUST WANTED TO ADD IN THAT, UH, AND IT WAS MENTIONED A WHILE AGO, SAN ANTONIO NEEDS ALL TYPES OF HOUSING. 
          UH, WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING ALL THE TIME UP HERE, BUT, UH, UH, WE NEED MARKET RATE HOUSING IN THIS CITY AS WELL. 
          AND, UM, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE USED TURS IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS. 
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UH, WE'VE USED THEM ON HOUSING PROJECTS. 
          I, I'VE USED MINE ON, UH, DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROJECTS, NOT NECESSARILY HOUSING. 
          SO THAT IS A TOOL TO HELP ON, UH, DEVELOPMENTS, UM, THAT, UH, WE REALLY NEED AND, UH, NEED TO PUSH FORWARD THROUGH HERE. 
          SO I'M, I'M ALL FOR THIS PROJECT. 
          I, I SAW, UH, PRESENTATION ON IT AND I, I THINK IT WOULD DO THIS AREA A TREMENDOUS BOOST, UH, ESPECIALLY RIGHT OUTSIDE FORT SAM HOUSTON THERE. 
          AND, UM, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS AND I HOPE IT GOES THROUGH. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER BRAVO. 
          I JUST WANNA CHIME IN ONE MORE TIME THAT I, I THINK THIS IS A FINE PROJECT. 
          I HOPE THAT, THAT THIS PROJECT IS COMPLETED. 
          UH, WE DO NEED MORE HOUSING OF ALL TYPES. 
          UH, WHAT I FAILED TO SEE WAS WHY $2.1 MILLION OF TAXPAYER MONEY, UM, SHOULD BE CONTRIBUTED TO THIS, OR WHY WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM THESE, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS INCENTIVE. 
          UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE, WHEN WE'RE LIMITED IN HOW MUCH WE HAVE LEFT IN THAT TURS AND LIKE, I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT KIND OF PROJECTS COULD COME FORWARD IN THE FUTURE. 
          I DON'T WANNA MISS OUT ON PROJECTS THAT COULD BE REALLY CATALYTIC PROJECTS THAT, UM, IN OTHER WAYS, YOU KNOW, MIGHT BE ABLE TO OFFER MORE TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          BRAVO, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. 
          HEARING NONE, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 29. 
          PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          UM, ERIC, I WOULD ASK YOU IF THERE'S A CITY MANAGER'S REPORT. 
          WE'LL HOLD THE NEXT WEEK, MAYOR. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO I KNOW FOLKS ARE HERE AND THEY'VE BEEN WAITING FOR AN HOUR FOR THE ZONING MEETING. 
          WE NEED JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO GET THE AGENDA IN ORDER. 
          UH, SO IF I CAN ASK FOR A COUNCIL RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES, LET'S RETURN JUST, JUST AFTER THREE 15 SO THE CLERKS CAN GET AN ORDER. 
          UM, AND THEN WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. 
          SO I APOLOGIZE AGAIN FOR THE DELAY. 
          THE TIME IS 3 15 3 13:00 PM ON THE 16TH DAY OF JUNE, 2022. 
          OUR A SESSION IS NOW ADJOURNED. 
          WE'LL BE BACK IN ROUGHLY FIVE MINUTES.
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