* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. ALL RIGHT. [00:00:01] WELCOME EVERYBODY. IT'S 2 0 2. I'M CALLING TO ORDER THE REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO FOR JULY 27TH, 2022. AND I'M GLAD TO SEE SOME OF MANY PEOPLE HERE. I'M SURE IT'S THE PLATS THAT YOU'RE ALL ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT. UM, CAN WE PLEASE HAVE, UH, INFORMATION ABOUT SPANISH LANGUAGE INTERPRETATION, PLEASE? A MICROPHONE. I'M SO SORRY. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. UM, MY NAME IS DINA PEREZ. THANK YOU. CAN STAFF CONDUCT THE ROLL CALL VOTE. COMMISSIONER GARCIA PRESENT. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? PRESENT. COMMISSIONER ZUKI PRESENT. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? PRESENT. COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? PRESENT. COMMISSIONER MILAM? HERE. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? HERE. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE? PRESENT. COMMISSIONER PECK? HERE. COMMISSIONER CARILLO HAYNES. PRESENT CHAIR. PROPHET HERE. A QUORUM IS PRESENT. THANK YOU. [Public Comment Public Comments will be limited to 1.5 minutes.] GOOD AFTERNOON. IN LIGHT OF THE 196 PROPOSED U D C AMENDMENTS TO DELIBERATE AND TAKE ACTION ON TODAY, WE ASK THOSE THAT SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT LIMIT THEIR COMMENTS TO ONE AND A HALF MINUTES SO THAT EVERYONE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD. AN INDIVIDUAL SIGNED UP WILL HAVE ONE AND A HALF MINUTES TO SPEAK ON THAT ITEM WITH A THREE MINUTE MAXIMUM TIME LIMIT FOR TODAY'S MEETING, MEANING THAT AS AN INDIVIDUAL YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SPEAK FOR MORE THAN THREE TOTAL MINUTES ON ALL ITEMS BEING PRESENTED TODAY. ORGANIZATIONS HAVE A TOTAL OF THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION. PERSONS REGISTERING ON BEHALF OR STANDING WITH AN ORGANIZATION MAY NOT BE PERMITTED AN ADDITIONAL MINUTE AND A HALF TO SPEAK IF THE ORGANIZATION HAS ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED. THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU. AT THIS POINT, WE WILL LISTEN TO THE VOICEMAILS. PRESIDENT OF THE ROUND TABLE CHAIR. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE HAVING SOME ISSUES. WE'RE GONNA HAVE OUR FOLKS TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN READ INTO THE RECORD THE WRITTEN COMMENT WE RECEIVED FOR THOSE U D C ITEMS. PLEASE. FOR AMENDMENT ONE DASH ONE. WE RECEIVED ONE LETTER IN SUPPORT, 48 IN OPPOSITION FOR AMENDMENT TWO DASH ONE. WE RECEIVED ZERO, UH, IN SUPPORT. 49 IN OPPOSITION FOR AMENDMENT FIVE DASH EIGHT. WE HAD ONE SUBMITTED WITH NO POSITION AMENDMENT. FIVE DASH 16 WE RECEIVED ONE LETTER IN SUPPORT. ZERO OPPOSED AMENDMENT FIVE DASH 30 WE RECEIVED ZERO LETTERS IN SUPPORT. ONE IN OPPOSITION FOR A FIVE DASH CALLING FOR AMENDMENT FIVE DASH 42. WE RECEIVED ONE IN SUPPORT AND ONE OPPOSED FOR AMENDMENT. FIVE DASH 35 WE HAD 47 IN SUPPORT. ZERO OPPOSED FOR AMENDMENT. FIVE DASH 57 50 LETTERS IN SUPPORT. ZERO IN OPPOSITION FOR AMENDMENT SEVEN DASH 2 48 IN SUPPORT. ONE OPPOSED FOR AMENDMENT 10 DASH 2 48 IN SUPPORT. ZERO OPPOSED FOR AMENDMENT 13 DASH 1 49 LETTERS IN SUPPORT. TWO IN OPPOSITION FOR AMENDMENT 14 DASH 8 51. LETTERS IN SUPPORT ZERO OPPOSED FOR AMENDMENT 16 DASH 1 54 IN SUPPORT. ONE OPPOSED AMENDMENT 16 DASH TWO 60 IN SUPPORT AND 20 IN OPPOSITION FOR AMENDMENT 16 DASH 5 52 [00:05:01] IN SUPPORT. ZERO OPPOSED FOR AMENDMENT 22 DASH 21. WE HAD ZERO IN SUPPORT AND ONE OPPOSED AMENDMENT. 23 DASH SIX FOUR IN SUPPORT. 49 IN OPPOSITION FOR AMENDMENT 25 DASH ONE. WE HAD 79 IN SUPPORT. ZERO IN OPPOSITION FOR AMENDMENT. 26 DASH ONE. WE HAD 49 IN SUPPORT COURT FOR AMENDMENTS. 27 DASH 3 27 DASH 4 27 DASH FIVE 30 DASH ONE AMENDMENTS 20 DASH ONE THROUGH 20 DASH 18 AMENDMENT 19. ONE AMENDMENTS 16 DASH 13 AMENDMENT FIVE DASH 35. FIVE DASH 14 FIVE DASH 22 AND FIVE DASH 23. WE HAD 49 LETTERS IN SUPPORT ZERO OPPOSED FOR AMENDMENTS. FIVE DASH ONE FIVE DASH 24 5 DASH 54 6 DASH FIVE SEVEN DASH ONE 18 DASH THREE 18 DASH SIX AND 23 DASH ONE. WE HAD ONE LETTER IN SUPPORT ZERO OPPOSED FOUR AMENDMENTS. 14 DASH ONE 14 DASH SIX AND 14 DASH SEVEN WE HAD 51 LETTERS IN SUPPORT. ZERO OPPOSED. AND LASTLY, FOUR AMENDMENTS, 14 DASH NINE 16 DASH SIX 16 DASH EIGHT 16 DASH 10 AND 16 DASH 12. WE HAD 53 LETTERS IN SUPPORT AND ZERO OPPOSED. THOSE WERE ALL PROVIDED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS EARLIER. THANK YOU. ARE WE ABLE TO LISTEN TO THE VOICEMAILS? HI, MY NAME IS HEATH HENDERSON. UH, MY WIFE AND I LIVE AT 9 0 5 CAPE AVENUE IN HIGHLAND PARK. UM, CALLING TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENTS FOR A D USE. UM, WE WE HAVE A SMALL HOME, ABOUT 1100 SQUARE FEET AND WE ARE INTERESTED IN BUILDING AN A D U IN OUR BACKYARD ALONG THE ALLEY. UH, WE'RE HOPING OF COURSE THAT IT CAN BE ASTOUND INVESTMENT FOR PASSIVE INCOME, BUT WE ALSO BOTH HAVE, UM, MOTHERS WHO ARE, UH, LIVE ALONE AND ARE AGING. UH, AND WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO OFFER THAT A U ON OUR PROPERTY, UM, WHEN THEY NEED MORE SUPPORT. UM, OUR SMALL HOME AND THE CURRENT SIZE LIMITATIONS MAKE A POTENTIAL A D U UNREASONABLY SMALL. AND SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THE AMENDMENT FOR INCREASE IN SIZE, GAIN SUPPORT, UH, AS IT IS THE SINGLE GREATEST OBSTACLE TO OUR ABILITY TO BUILD, UM, BOTH FOR POTENTIAL INCOME AND FOR, UM, FEASIBILITY OF, OF GETTING OUR, OUR MOTHERS TO, UH, LIVE IN WITH US WHEN THE TIME COMES. SO ANYWAY, UM, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK AND, UM, THANKS AGAIN. HI, MY NAME IS GEORGE DE LA GARZA. I LIVE AT 4 4 3 CHADWELL DRIVE, UH, SAN ANTONIO SEVEN EIGHT TWO TWO EIGHT. PHONE NUMBER TWO ONE OH SIX ONE EIGHT SIX ONE TWO OH. I'M A MEMBER OF THE TIER ONE IN THE JEFFERSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND I'M CALLING TO SUPPORT THE AMENDMENTS 16 1 16 2 16 5 16 6 16, 8 16 10 AND 1612. ALL OF THESE AMENDMENTS ARE, ARE RESULTS OF YEARS LONG, HARD WORK COORDINATED TO THE MULTIPLE MEETINGS, ADVANCED COMMITTEES AND TASK FORCES. THEY REFLECT THE WORK OF THE COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOODS, THE U D C COMMITTEE GROUPS, INCLUDING CITY STAFF AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS REFLECT, SYNTHESIZED AND VIABLE SOLUTIONS FOR SMART GROWTH AND SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT. MULTIPLE COMPROMISES AND EDITS TO ALL THE AMENDMENTS HAVE OCCURRED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. LET'S REWARD THE HARD WORK OF ALL OF THE ASSOCIATED PARTIES WITH YOUR SUPPORT AND APPROVAL OF THE TIER ONE AMENDMENT. 16 1 16, 2 16, 5 16, 6 16, 8 16 10 AND 1612. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NAME IS AISHA BASLER. I LIVE AT 11 SHERINGHAM SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 1 8. I'M CALLING IN SUPPORT OF THE U D C AMENDMENT 26 DASH ONE. I'VE LIVED IN SAN ANTONIO ALL MY LIFE AND KNOW MOST OF ALL THE AREAS OF SAN ANTONIO. I LOVE THE CULTURE AND THE HISTORICAL CHARACTER OF OUR CITY AND ITS NEIGHBORS. UH, A DISTRICT CAN HOMEOWNER IS THE DATED COMMUNITY OF OLA FARMS. I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE THREAT OF A MEGA GAS STATION POPPING UP NEAR NEXT DOOR TO OUR HOME. BUT WE HAVE FAMILY ALL OVER TOWN THAT LIVE IN NEIGHBORHOODS, MOST OF WHICH ARE PROTECTED BY GATES HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION TO STAY OF MEGA GAS STATIONS BUILDING NEXT DOOR. AND THOUGH WE NOW LIVE IN A GATED COMMUNITY, AS THE KIDS ARE GROWN, WE [00:10:01] MUST, WE MAY HAVE MORE HOUSES THAN WE NEED AND LOOK DOWNSIZE IN THE FUTURE AND SEE THEY MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY LIFESTYLE IN AN URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD. HAVING AMENDMENT 21 DASH 1 26 DASH ONE IN THE UN UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE WILL GIVE US ASSURANCE THAT WE, THAT WHERE WE BUY TO BUILD WILL BE PROTECTED FROM A MEGA GAS STATION COMING, GOING, COMING IN, AND RUINING OUR INVESTMENT AND LIFESTYLE. PLEASE APPROVE AMENDMENT 26 DASH ONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HI, MY NAME IS WALKER DUNN. UM, I'M CALLING FROM 6 33 SOUTH ST. MARY STREET, SAN ANTONIO DOWNTOWN. UM, I'M CALLING TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE CLOSED CODE AMENDMENT FOR DWELLING UNIT. UM, FOR ME, I THINK IT'S A GREAT TOOL FOR, FOR HOMEOWNERS WHO CAN USE IT AS A RENTAL, UH, WHICH PROVIDES PASSIVE INCOME AND IT ALLOWS HOMEOWNERS TO INVEST IN BUILD EQUITY IN THEIR PROPERTY, WHICH IS HIGHLY DESIRABLE FOR DOWNTOWN. SO I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS CODE AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS CAMERON PATTERSON. ADDRESSES 9 0 6 360 AVE. MY NUMBER'S 5 1 2 9 2 1 7 7 2 6. I CAN'T FIND THE AGENDA ITEM, BUT I'M SPEAKING FOR A PROPOSED G D C AMENDMENT, SPECIFICALLY THOSE ABOUT THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT. I'M A YOUNG PROFESSIONAL WHO WORKS DOWNTOWN AND OWNS A SMALL CENTURY OLD BUNGALOW AND HIGHLAND PARK, AND I WANT TO SHARE MY SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED U D C AMENDMENTS TO THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT ORDINANCE. I BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO EMPOWER, INCENTIVIZE HOMEOWNERS TO BUILD ADUS TO CREATE NATURALLY AFFORDABLE LOW IMPACT HOUSING FOR THE CITY, WHICH STARTS WITH REMOVING THOSE RESTRICTIONS PER THESE PROPOSED U D C AMENDMENTS. I PERSONALLY WOULD LOVE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE CITY AND MY NEIGHBORHOOD BY BUILDING AN A D U WOULD BE A GREAT UNIT FOR A STUDENT OR AN EARLY CAREER, CAREER PROFESSIONAL TO RENT. AND THEN IT'LL BE THE PERFECT SPOT FOR GRANDMA AND GRANDPA TO SETTLE IN WHEN THEY'VE RETIRED. AND I'VE GOT MORE KIDS THAN HANDS CURRENTLY THOUGH THE RESTRICTIONS ARE SO ARE THAT IT MAKES ZERO SENSE FOR ME TO DO SO. BESIDES LIMIT OF THE UNIT BASED ON MY PRIMARY HOUSE'S AREA, MAKES IT LESS THAN THE SIZE OF ANY REASONABLE STUDIO APARTMENT. THE SETBACKS AND PARKING REQUIREMENTS MAKE IT TAKE ENTIRELY TOO MUCH OF A LIMITED BACKYARD THAT I HAVE AND THE UTILITY AND CHARACTER REQUIREMENTS DRIVE UP THE COST UNNECESSARILY. THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT THESE RESTRICTIONS CURRENTLY THAT ARE IMPROVING THE OUTCOMES FOR HOMEOWNERS, NEIGHBORS, OR THE END USERS. THEY'RE DATED, UNHELPFUL AND OVERLY BURDENSOME. BOXING AT HOMEOWNERS LIKE MYSELF WHO HELPING CONTRIBUTE TO OUR IMMENSE LACK OF HOUSING AT A TIME WHEN SAN ANTONIO IS GROWING FASTER THAN EVER. WE DON'T EMPOWER HOMEOWNERS ENOUGH TO CONTRIBUTE TO HOUSING SUPPLY IN OUR CURRENT CRISIS. HI, MY NAME IS GARY JONES AND I LIVE AT 8 31 EAST MAGNOLIA AVENUE, ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO ONE TWO. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 901-1435. AND WHILE I DON'T HAVE THE, UM, CASE NUMBER, I AM CALLING TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED U D C CODE AMENDMENTS FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. UM, JUST WANNA EXPRESS THAT I THINK THAT THEY'RE A SUSTAINABLE, UH, VERSATILE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S, UH, REALLY HELPING TO ADDRESS THE HOUSING CRISIS OR BURGEONING AN IMPENDING HOUSING. CRISIS'S GONNA HIT SAN ANTONIO AND HITTING SAN ANTONIO. AND THE, THE PROPOSED REVISIONS OR, UM, AMENDMENTS THAT I'VE READ SEEM TO MAKE THE THE POSSIBILITY OF BUILDING ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS MORE ACCESSIBLE TO NORMAL PEOPLE. UM, I KNOW THAT MY WIFE AND I JUST PERSONALLY HAVE REALLY BEEN HOPING TO BUILD AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT, UM, WITH A LOT OF CONSIDERATION AND THOUGHT FOR WHAT MY MOTHER'S GOING TO DO. YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF MILLENNIALS ARE STARTING TO CONSIDER WHAT THEIR PARENTS' RETIREMENT PLAN IS GONNA BE AND GOSH, HOPEFULLY THERE IS ONE. YOU KNOW, IN OUR CASE, I DON'T THINK THERE IS ONE. SO WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING. HI, MY NAME IS JEAN MORALES. MY ADDRESS IS 2 2 0 0 ABDO LANE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 4. I AM CALLING IN REFERENCE TO THE RESPECTS OF, UH, ITEM 17 AND AMENDMENT 26 1. UM, I ASK THIS COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF 26 DASH ONE TO CREATE A MINIMUM DISTANCE BETWEEN HOMES AND GAS STATIONS. UM, LET'S PLEASE RECOMMEND THIS AS WELL. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS GREG SMITH. I LIVE AT NINE 18 WEST MULBERRY AVENUE AND [00:15:01] I OWN SEVERAL PROPERTIES IN THE BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD. MY NUMBER IS 2 1 0 6 0 2 0 5 9 7. ZIP CODE 7 8 2 0 1. I FULLY SUPPORT U D C AMENDMENT 26 DASH ONE AND HOPE YOU WILL. YOU ALL WILL TOO. I DON'T WANT MASSIVE GAS STATIONS POPPING UP NEXT DOOR TO MY HOMES AND RUINING MY PROPERTY VALUES. AMERICANS, AMERICANS WON'T GIVE UP THEIR SUVS, BUT THEY WILL GIVE UP THEIR INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINES FOR ELECTRIC MOTORS WHEN EVERY CAR COMPANY IS SELLING THEM IN A DECADE. SA TOMORROW WILL BE, WILL NOT BE A CITY THAT RUNS ON GAS. WE NEED TO DEVELOP THE CITY FOR THE FUTURE AND START CONTROLLING BETTER WHERE GAS STATIONS GO AND HOW CLOSE THEY ARE TO EXISTING HOMES, SCHOOLS, AND MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTIES. IF THE CORNER OF THE STREET IS A GOOD PLACE FOR A GAS STATION, THEN IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO DESIGN ONE THAT SITS THERE, FITS THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND HAS THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF BUFFER SPACE. LET'S PLAN. BEFORE TOMORROW COMES, PLEASE SPONSOR GAS STATION AMENDMENT 26 DASH ONE. THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME IS JEFF SNYDER. I'M LIVE AT 9 0 5 NORTH MESQUITE STREET, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 2. I WAS CALLING TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED ZONING AMENDMENTS GOING FORWARD. I THINK THEY ARE, UH, A GOOD IDEA. I THINK, UM, A LOT OF CITIES LIKE SAN ANTONIO ARE FACING HOUSING CRISIS. UM, WE'RE JUST RUNNING OUT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE AND I THINK THE AMENDMENT PROPOSED TO ADUS, UM, SEEMED LIKE A GOOD IDEA AND THEY WOULD ALLOW FOR MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE IN SAN ANTONIO. THANKS. HELLO COMMISSION. MY NAME IS MARTIN PEREZ, 7 25 SAN MAIER, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 8. I'M CALLING AND SAY I SUPPORT THE GAS STATION AMENDMENT 26 DASH ONE TO HAVE A WIDER BOUNDARY FROM GAS STATIONS. MULTI-GENERATIONAL FAMILY HOME OWNERS FEEL THREATENED AND HELPLESS. WE NEED THE ASSURANCE OF SOME SORT OF SPACE REQUIREMENT THAT MEGA STATIONS CAN'T JUST SQUEEZE IN A BIG STATION RIGHT NEXT TO OUR HOMES AND LOCAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. HOW WILL WE AND MY NEIGHBORS FEEL WHEN, WHEN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LOSES AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER FOUND CHIEF PRESIDENTIAL LAND AND REZONE C TWO WITHOUT EVEN MENTIONING GAS STATION. THE ANSWER IS WE NEED THIS KIND OF AMENDMENT IN THE U THE U D C THAT PROTECTS US, OUR HOMES AND OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR SCHOOLS FROM GAS STATIONS BEING BUILT RIGHT NEXT TO US. WE NEED THIS REQUIRED DISTANCE TO KEEP OUR YARDS WHERE OUR KIDS CAN PLAY AWAY FROM INCREASED TRAFFIC ON OUR STREETS AND UNHEALTHY FIELDS. PLEASE SPONSOR THIS AMENDMENT 26 DASH ONE AND LET ME, LET ME AND MY NEIGHBOR'S VOICE REALLY VOICES REALLY BE HEARD. THANK YOU. HOLD ON. TECHNOLOGY IS GREAT WHEN IT WORKS PROPERLY. SORRY. SORRY FOR THE DELAY. MY NAME IS MONICA SAVINO, I LIVE AT 1120 EAST CROCKETT STREET. I'M CALLING IN REGARDS TO THE U D C AMENDMENT TO BE HEARD TODAY, 26.1. IN REGARDS TO GAS STATION SPACING, I WOULD LIKE THE RECORD TO SHOW THAT I CERTAINLY I AND MY HOUSEHOLD, UH, DO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT PROPOSAL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS ALEJANDRO LARA. I LIVE IN 3 1 5 TO B STREET, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 8 AND I'M CALLING ABOUT THE U D C AMENDMENT 26 DASH ONE. UH, ABOUT PLEASE. I DO NOT WANT ANY GAS STATIONS NEXT TO MY, MY GRANDKIDS SCHOOL, MY NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU KNOW, THERE'S, [00:20:01] UH, A LOT OF, UH, OLDER PEOPLE HERE. THEY'VE BEEN HERE FOREVER, DON'T DESTROY THEIR LIVES AND THEIR FAMILY'S LIVES. AND MINE ALSO BY PUTTING GAS STATIONS CLOSE TO SCHOOLS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S A LOT OF PLACES OUT THAT YOU CAN PUT MORE GAS STATIONS NOT HERE, PLEASE. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE TO ASK THIS. UH, UH, I HAVE NEVER BEEN LAID ON ANY TAX PAYMENTS AND ALWAYS CONTRIBUTE, DOING THE BEST AS A NEIGHBOR, HAVING MY HOUSE, GOOD LOOKING AND EVERYTHING. SO I WANT TO KEEP MY NEIGHBORHOOD NICE AND CLEAN. NO GAS STATIONS, PLEASE LEAVE IT QUIET AS IT IS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. I I KEEP SAYING THIS OVER AND OVER. I WISH SOMEBODY WOULD LISTEN, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S IT FOR TODAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR LISTENING. MM-HMM. , PAULA BUENO. THIS IS RAY MORALES. UH, ADDRESS TWO OH THREE METRO DRIVE. UH, PHONE NUMBER (210) 727-9215. UH, PRINCIPAL AT MORALES ARCHITECT NUMBER OF TIER ONE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND HISTORIC WESTSIDE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION MEMBER AND CALLING REGARDING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 17 IN OPPOSITION TO AMENDMENT 23 DASH SIX. I'M STRONGLY AGAINST AMENDMENT 23 DASH SIX, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN PROPERLY VETTED BY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION VIA THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION PROCESS. IT HAS NOT BEEN PROPOSED. IT HAS BEEN PUT AS A REMOVED BARRIER TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHEN IT DOES NOT ENSURE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN ANY TIME. THIS AMENDMENT ALSO DOES NOT ENSURE LONG-TERM RENTAL AND THE RESULT THEY USE. BUILT WITH THIS AMENDMENT, THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL BUILT BY DEVELOPERS THAT CAN AFFORD TO INVEST FOR A RETURN ON INVESTMENT PURPOSES, NOT AFFORDABILITY. THE CITY ALREADY HAS S C R DOCUMENTATION PROBLEM AND THEREFORE AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE FOR OWNER-OCCUPIED VEHICLE. THIS AMENDMENT ENCOURAGES LARGER ADUS WITHIN THE URBAN POOR, LACKING SIDE AND REAR SETBACKS, INCREASING LIVING AREA AND REMOVING OCCUPANT REQUIREMENTS. THEREFORE, INCREASING DENSITY, EXACERBATING GRADING ISSUES, CREATING FIRE, ACTIVE IMPEDIMENT, AND MAGNIFYING GENERAL PARKING ISSUES THAT WILL INCREASE IMPERVIOUS COVER. THIS AMENDMENT BASICALLY REDLINE URBAN CORE NEIGHBORHOODS AS WEALTHIER AND NEW NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE, AND H VERY POTENTIAL. I'M SEEKING SUPPORT APPLICATION. VICTORIA . SO AMENDMENT 20. YES. HI, MY NAME IS STACY SWANS AND I LIVE AT 2 0 3 RADIANCE AND I'M CALLING IN SUPPORT OF AMENDMENT 26 1. I MOVED TO SAN ANTONIO SIX YEARS AGO BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE A BIG SMALL TOWN, AN EASY PLACE TO LIVE WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSES IN OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS INSIDE OF FOUR 10. WHAT I NEED IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS ONLY A SMALL CONVENIENCE STORE WITH JUST A COUPLE PUMPS TO REPLACE THE ONE THAT WENT OUT OF BUSINESS. I DO NOT NEED A GIANT GAS STATION THAT IS TOO DANGEROUS TO WALK TO BECAUSE OF ALL THE TRAFFIC THERE. 24 7. PLEASE KEEP THE GOOD PARTS OF SAN ANTONIO AND DON'T LET IT LOOK LIKE HOUSTON OR DALLAS. I ASK YOU TO PLEASE MAINTAIN THE CHARM AND PROTECT MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND OTHER OLDER URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS BY SPONSORING THIS AMENDMENT TO LIMIT THE LOCATION OF GAS STATIONS AND LIMIT THEIR DISTANCE TO ADJACENT HOMES AND SCHOOLS ACCORDING TO THEIR SIZE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND FOR SPONSORING THIS REALLY IMPORTANT AMENDMENT. HELLO, MY NAME IS VALERIE REYNOLDS AND I LIVE AT 4 4 3 WEST HILL, UH, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. OUR ZIP CODE IS 7 8 2 0 1. I'M IN DISTRICT SEVEN AND I'M ALSO A DISTRICT ONE SMALL BUSINESS OWNER. UM, I'M CALLING A SUPPORT OF U D C AMENDMENT 26 DASH ONE REGARDING GAS STATIONS AND THERE BEING A REASONABLE SPACE REQUIRED BETWEEN GAS STATION STORAGE TANKS AND PUMPS TO HOMES AND SCHOOLS. THIS IS A NECESSARY AND OVERDUE AMENDMENT TO PROTECT HOMEOWNERS ALL OVER THE CITY. [00:25:01] MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS A VINTAGE KIND OF 1950S WITH MID-SIZE RANCH OFF HOMES. AND AS THE URBAN COURSE SPREADS FURTHER OUT, NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE MINE HAVE GOT TO BE PROTECTED. THEY'RE AT RISK OF MEGA GAS STATIONS ENCROACHING ON US AND THREATENING THE CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ON THE SAFETY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. PLEASE SUPPORT AMENDMENT 26 DASH ONE TO KEEP OUR CITY NEIGHBORHOODS WITH AN APPROPRIATE SPACING AREA FROM OUR HOMES, OUR FRONT YARD, BACKYARD SCHOOL TO GAS STATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS KATHLEEN WASHINGTON. ADDRESS 34 62 BLUE TOPAZ, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO FOUR FIVE. PHONE NUMBER (210) 677-0532. AND I JUST WANTED TO CALL AND LET YOU KNOW THAT I WAS IN SUPPORT OF THE U D C AMENDMENT 26 DASH ONE. THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME IS CARRIE NEFF AND I AM A DISTRICT SEVEN, UH, RESIDENT, UM, AT 1 0 3 2 2 COUNTRY VISTA. AND I'M CALLING ABOUT THE, UH, THE U D C AMENDMENT, UH, 26 1 REGARDING, UH, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF BETTER CONTROLS OF GAS STATIONS AND HOW THEY'RE BUILT. AND I'M CALLING TO SUPPORT, UH, THIS AMENDMENT THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED, UH, FOR HEALTH AND SAFETY REASONS. UM, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO HAVE BETTER, UM, CODES REGARDING OFF GASSING AND THE DENSITY OF, OF GAS STATIONS AND NEIGHBORHOODS AND URBAN ENVIRONMENTS. ANYWAY, THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS MARGARET MITCHELL. UM, I'M CALLING IN SUPPORT OF AMENDMENT U D C, UM, AMENDMENT 26 DASH ONE. MY ADDRESS IS 2 0 5 NEWBURY TERRACE, SEVEN EIGHT TWO OH NINE. AND UM, MY PHONE NUMBER IS TWO TEN SIX EIGHT FIVE SEVEN ONE SIX SEVEN. AGAIN, I'M CALLING IN SUPPORT OF U D C AMENDMENT 26 DASH ONE. THANKS. HELLO, MY NAME IS ULA . I AM A RESIDENT OF SAN ANTONIO DISTRICT TWO, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 17, AMENDMENT 26 DASH ONE. THAT, UM, GAS STATION INTENSITY HAS INCREASED TO THE POINT WHERE GAS STATIONS HAVE UP TO 32 FILLING POSITIONS OR PUMPS AND GAS STATIONS. THE FILLING STATIONS INCREASED TRAFFIC AND SOON SAN ANTONIO ALREADY HAS VERY HIGH LEVELS OF ASTHMA AMONG CHILDREN AND THIS WOULD ONLY, UM, FURTHER PUT THEM AT RISK. AND OTHER CHILDREN, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT GAS STATIONS AREN'T INCLUDED OR PROTECTED IN THE, UM, INNER CITY, AND THEREFORE BY TRYING TO ZONE THEM INTO, UH, PARTS OF THE OUTER CITY, UM, IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. AND WE INCLUDE MORE GAS STATIONS IN OUR CITY. IT WILL ONLY WORK IN OUR, UH, AIR POLLUTION AND OUR, UM, OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT AND SAN ANTONIO SHOULD BE MOVING FORWARD WITH THEIR SAN ANTONIO CLIMATE PLAN THAT WE PUT INTO PLACE. A COUPLE. HI, THIS IS ALLISON HUGH FROM 6 0 9 HAYES STREET. I WANT TO EXPRESS STRONG SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENTS FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS TODAY. UM, EASING REQUIREMENTS THAT OVERLY BURDEN O LOWER INCOME OWNERS OF SMALLER HOMES IS PROVEN EFFECTIVE BY DATA FROM OTHER STATES IS NECESSARY AND IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO AS SOMEONE WHO, LIKE MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE FULL-TIME WORKING PARENTS THAT COULD NOT HAVE RAISED ME WITHOUT THE HELP OF A LIVE-IN GRANDPARENT. THIS AMENDMENT IS PERSONALLY IMPORTANT TO ME. I HOPE THAT LIKE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE TAKING A PROACTIVE APPROACH TO COMBATING THE HOUSING CRISIS, BUT THE COMMISSION WILL DO EVERYTHING IN ITS POWER TO REDUCE THE ALREADY MOUNTING OBSTACLES FOR THE AVERAGE FAMILY IN SAN ANTONIO. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU VERY MUCH. THIS, UH, AT THIS TIME WE WILL HEAR CITIZENS TO BE HEARD ON YOUR SCREEN. ON YOUR SCREEN IS A LIST OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. SO IF YOU ARE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR ON, FOR AGAINST 12 [00:30:01] OR 14, THAT IS GOING TO BE CONTINUED. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU STILL WANNA SPEAK TODAY OR YOU DO. OKAY. WHICH ITEM? 12. OKAY. AND THEN, UH, ON 17, UM, THE ITEMS THAT YOU SEE BELOW, UH, STARTING WITH ONE, ONE ARE GOING TO BE, UH, HEARD INDIVIDUALLY. SO IF YOU ARE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON, ON AN AMENDMENT THAT'S NOT LISTED THERE, UH, WE WILL HEAR FOR FROM THOSE FOLKS NOW. SO, UM, IF YOU'RE SIGNED UP FOR 17 AND DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK, UH, WHEN WE CONSIDER THE THOSE ITEMS INDIVIDUALLY, WE'LL HEAR YOU SPEAK NOW. SO AS I CALL YOUR NAME, IF YOU'LL JUST LET ME KNOW, UH, STEVE OR STEEN, STEVE, I'LL, I'LL SPEAK LATER. OKAY. ANITA FRANKLIN IS THAT, THAT MIGHT BE, IS THAT FOR 14 OR 17? IS THAT FOR, IT'S FOR 17, MA'AM. UH, YOU, I'M FOR 26 DASH ONE. OKAY. IT SPEAK. THAT'S FINE. DO YOU WANNA SPEAK WHEN THE ITEM IS HARD? WHEN THE ITEM IS WRITTEN? OKAY. UH, ROSE HILL, SHE STEPPED OUT FOR A WHILE. NO, SHE'S RIGHT HERE. ROSE. OH, BUT OUT, THEY JUST CALLED YOU. DO YOU WANNA SPEAK NOW? UH, THOSE, THESE ITEMS ARE GONNA BE PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL THAT ARE LISTED UP HERE ON THE SCREEN. UM, I'D LIKE TO, WELL, IT, IT, WAIT, I'LL WAIT. I WANT FOR THE INDIVIDUAL, I'M, I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THREE OF THEM. 29 DASH ONE 16. EIGHT 16 DASH EIGHT 16 DASH 10. OKAY. THOSE ARE NOT BEING PULLED, SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU WOULD SPEAK 20 DASH ONE. 29 DASH ONE IS NINE ONE IS, BUT 16, EIGHT, I THINK ALL OF US HERE, THEY'RE FROM DISTRICT TWO OR THOSE ARE THREE ON ALL OF'EM. WE'RE SPEAKING ON ALL THREE OF THOSE. OKAY. SO, UH, WE'LL HEAR FROM YOU. NOW BEFORE WE CONSIDER, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WE'RE GONNA DO A CONSENT AGENDA OF MULTIPLE, THERE'S 196 TOTAL AMENDMENTS. MM-HMM. , SO A LOT OF THEM WILL BE D DONE VIA CONSENT. SO AT THIS POINT, WE JUST WANT TO HEAR FROM FOLKS, UH, THAT ARE EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THE ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ALREADY BEING PULLED. OKAY. INDIVIDUAL. SO YOU LOST, YOU LOST ME. I'M, I'M SORRY. SO, SO, MS. MS, BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT MISS, SO YOU, YOU INDICATED THAT YOU WANTED TO SPEAK ON THREE DIFFERENT ITEMS MM-HMM. , SO EVERYONE IS GIVEN 90 SECONDS TOTAL. MM-HMM. TO SPEAK ON ALL ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. TWO OF THE ITEMS YOU MENTIONED ARE ON CONSENT. MM-HMM. ONE OF THOSE ITEMS, UH, 29 DASH ONE. WELL I KNOW YEAH. IS PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. SO YOU CAN CHOOSE TO SPEAK NOW OR YOU CAN CHOOSE TO SPEAK WHEN WE GET TO AMENDMENT 29 DASH ONE, I'LL WAIT TILL WE GET TO 29 DASH ONE. DID YOU WANNA SPEAK ABOUT 16? A SHE HAS TO USE HIS. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. UH, ROSS, UH, I'M SORRY. IS IT LONG, LONG? I CAN'T READ. I'M SORRY. I CAN'T READ YOUR LAST NAME. ROSS, LATER. OKAY. BIANCA MALDONADO. OKAY. IF YOU CAN JUST STATE YOUR, AND I ALSO HAVE TIME FROM MR. FONSECA ALSO FOR A TOTAL OF THREE MINUTES. MR. FRANK FONSECA IS ALSO SIGNED IN, AND I'M GONNA SPEAK FOR ITEMS THAT ARE ON CONSENT AND THAT ARE ALSO PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL, UNLESS YOU LET ME SPLIT MY TIME. NO. FRANK, FRANK FONSECA. YES, SIR. AND SO I'M, I CAN'T SPLIT MY TIME. I HAVE TO DO ALL THREE MINUTES NOW. YES. LOGAN. HER QUESTION IS, SHE'S GONNA SPEAK ON INDIVIDUAL AND A CONSENT ITEM. THE, THE AGENDA IS STATED TO ALLOW A TOTAL OF 90 SECONDS. RIGHT. SO YOU CAN SPEAK ON CONSENT OR YOU CAN SPEAK ON AN INDIVIDUAL ITEM. THAT'S YOUR DECISION, BUT YOU DO NOT GET 90 SECONDS FOR BOTH. RIGHT. OKAY. WELL, IF SHE'S TAKING TWO PEOPLE'S TIME, I'M TAKING TWO PEOPLE'S TIME. YES. THREE MINUTES. OKAY. JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR. THANK YOU. BIANCA MALDONADO 4 57 CLUB DRIVE, 7 8 2 0 1. APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR SERVICE THAT YOU'VE DONE. I KNOW I WORKED WITH SEVERAL OF YOU ON P TAC. I WILL TALK ABOUT AMENDMENT 22 DASH 21, WHICH IS ON CONSENT. I'M REQUESTING THAT YOU PULL THAT AMENDMENT FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. I UNDERSTAND YOU RECEIVED SOME INFORMATION FROM MS. DIAZ DURING YOUR WORK SESSION, BUT THE PRIMARY CONCERN ABOUT THAT AMENDMENT IS THE QUARTER MILE. IT IS ABOUT THE CORRIDOR PLAN. WHEN YOU HAVE AN ARBITRARY VALUE OF A QUARTER MILE, IT IMPACTS ALL THE URBAN CORE RESIDENCES ALONG MAJOR, UM, CORRIDORS LIKE SAN PEDRO, FREDERICKSBURG ROAD AND BLANCO. AND SO THE KEY WOULD BE THAT THE INFORMATION SHE SUPPLIED TO YOU SOUNDED REALLY GREAT ON HOW THEY WANTED TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. WELL, LET'S CODIFY THAT LANGUAGE, OR LET'S PUT LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT SAYS [00:35:01] THAT THAT QUARTER MILE ISN'T JUST THE ARBITRARY VALUE THAT IS LOOKED AT DURING THAT PROCESS, AND UNTIL THAT LANGUAGE IS IN THERE, THAT'S MAJOR, THE MAJOR CONCERN OF ALL THE LETTERS THAT YOU RECEIVED ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR AMENDMENT. THE OTHER AMENDMENT THAT I'LL ALSO FOCUS ON IS THE AMENDMENT 23 DASH 26 REGARDING THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. THAT WAS PROBABLY THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL AMENDMENT THAT CAME OUTTA P TAC. IT ONLY PASSED BY ONE VOTE. THE VOTE COUNT WAS 10 DASH NINE. I BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS AMENDMENT IS NOT PERFECT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW. IF YOU LISTEN TO CHIEF HOOD, MOST RECENTLY IN AN URBAN CORE FIRE, THE DISTANCE BETWEEN TWO STRUCTURES IN A RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY LOT PLAYED A FACTOR INTO HOW THAT FIRE SPREAD TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT SETBACKS SHOULD NOT BE AN ARBITRARY VALUE AT THREE FEET BECAUSE OF THE URBAN CORE AND OUR BUILT ENVIRONMENT. THERE'S NO DATA THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THIS AMENDMENT THAT TALKS ABOUT THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT TODAY, SPECIFICALLY ON OUR OLDER AREAS IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO IT UNNECESSARILY TARGETS, UH, THE OLDER BUILT ENVIRONMENT. SO IT'D ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THOSE TWO ITEMS. THANK YOU. YOU STILL HAVE ANOTHER, OH, SORRY. SORRY, GO AHEAD. UM, THE OTHER AMENDMENT I SUPPORT AMENDMENT 26 DASH ONE GAS STATIONS. I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THIS AMENDMENT FIRST CAME THROUGH FOR YOU TO BE, TO SPONSOR THE AMENDMENT, UM, IT WAS OF DID IT JUST IMPACT TWO NEIGHBORHOODS? I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY CHANGED. THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST AMENDMENTS THAT RECEIVED THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF PUBLIC INPUT, SO PLEASE SUPPORT THAT AMENDMENT. ALSO, 16 DASH ONE IS AN AMENDMENT SPONSORED BY THE TIER ONE NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION, AND THAT WAS A CONSOLIDATION OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, ALSO HAD AMENDMENT, SO THEY WITHDREW THEIR AMENDMENT IN SUPPORT OF THIS AMENDMENT. ALSO, 16 DASH FIVE, THE MODIFICATION OF THE HALF STORY DEFINITION HAS THE SAME, UH, WORKING, UH, CONSENSUS ON THESE. THERE WAS A LOT OF EFFORT THAT WENT INTO SEVERAL OF THE 16 SERIES AMENDMENTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED. AND I ASK THAT YOU SUPPORT THOSE AMENDMENTS. ALSO ASK THAT YOU SUPPORT ALL THE 20 SERIES AMENDMENTS, WHICH WERE ALL THE ONES ABOUT THE HISTORIC DISTRICT FROM O H P. I ALSO SUPPORT ALL THE ONES ABOUT STORMWATER. UM, AND SITTING DOWN WITH, UM, WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN A HIS, IN A FLOODPLAIN. I'M VERY THANKFUL FOR THEIR, THEIR THOUGHTFULNESS. AND I ALSO GO BACK TO THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT. I'M THANKFUL, I GUESS I LIVE IN A FLOODPLAIN BECAUSE WHEN THAT A D U GETS BUILT NEXT DOOR, MY FLOOD WILL BE EVALUATED. THAT'S NOT THE CASE FOR ANYBODY ELSE IN THE CITY. RESIDENTIAL LOTS DON'T GET REEVALUATED FOR FLOOD AND FOR RUNOFF. SO WE THINK ABOUT SETBACKS. NOT ONLY IS IT A FIRE SAFETY, BUT IT'S ALSO HAS FLOOD IMPLICATIONS. AND I DON'T THINK ALL THAT HAS BEEN CLEARLY IRONED OUT. UM, AND THEN I JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND PLEASE CONSIDER MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. MALDONADO. APPRECIATE IT. UH, MS. DETA COLE. UM, LATER, LATER. UM, LORENZO GONZALEZ. THANK YOU. HELLO. I COME TO SPEAK TO YOU BEFORE, UH, ALL OF YOU. I'M NOT SURE OF THE AGENDA THAT WE'RE SPEAKING ON. CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE, UH, MY NAME'S LORENZO GONZALEZ LECHUGA. I LIVE AT 80 93 NORTH VERDE DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. I COME TO OPPOSE, I I COME IN OPPOSITION TO THE NOR SOUTH VERDE, UH, DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AT THE ENTRANCE OF OUR SUBDIVISION, MY WIFE MARLINA AND I OPPOSE THIS PROPOSAL. WE MOVE FROM THE COUNTRY TO A LITTLE BIT OF SAN ANTONIO OF COUNTRY WITHIN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. THE ENVIRONMENT HERE IN THIS LOCATION IS THAT WE'RE SINGLE, SINGLE FAMILY ENVIRONMENT. WE'RE NOT, NOT COMMERCIAL. WHEN I MOVED HERE IN, UH, 2014, I NOTICED THAT, UH, THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY WAS USING THAT LAND AS COMMERCIAL LAND. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT GAMES BEING PLAYED HERE, BUT THERE, THAT LAND WAS NOT BEING USED AS A FAMILY WAS BEING USED AS A COMMERCIAL. THERE WERE HEAVY THREEQUARTER TON TRUCKS IN THE BACK CONSTRUCTION TYPE, WHICH THEY WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE. HE ERECTED AN EIGHT FOOT STEEL FENCE TO BLOCK VIEW OF WHAT WAS GOING ON BACK THERE. AND THEN HAD CARS IN THE FRONT FRONTAGE ROAD FOR SALE, LIKE A CAR SALES. I GOT HOT RODS. I DO BRING 'EM OUT AND I PUT 'EM OUT FRONT TO SHOW 'EM OFF TO THE NEIGHBORS, BUT I DO NOT INFRINGE OF THEIR PROPERTY LANDLINES. SO I'M OPPOSED TO THIS BECAUSE WHATEVER GAME'S BEING PLAYED HERE IS THAT HE'S PROPOSING SOME KIND OF A SALESMAN OF PUTTING CARTS OR TRAILERS TO SELL FOOD. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE PLAN. I THINK IT GOES BEYOND THAT PLAN. I KNOW MY TIME'S RUNNING OUT, SO I'M GONNA ASK MY CASTANEDA'S TIME FOR ME TO SPEAK IF I MAY. OKAY. JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS, UH, THIS WAS MISLABELED. THIS IS PLANNED AMENDMENTS BEING CONSIDERED AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE. BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO WELL SPEAK. I I I REALLY HAVE NEVER BEEN HERE, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WORKS. NO, I UNDERSTAND. IT'S [00:40:01] JUST THEY HAD IT WRONG. WHO DID, DID YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND YIELD YOUR TIME TO, WELL, MR. CASTANERA, I DIDN'T WANT TO COME AND SPEAK, SO I JUST WANTED TO EXTEND, UH, HIS TIME TO SAY WHATEVER'S GOING. WHATEVER I CAN, YOU CAN SAY IN OPPOSITION AGAIN, CUSTOM. AND HE'S PRESENT. HE'S PRESENT. HE IS IS ARE YOU IN BELGAR BELGAR DRIVE? IS THAT YEAH. OKAY. THEY JUST HAD THE, UH, ITEMS WRONG ON HERE. GO AHEAD. CONTINUE YOU. SO AGAIN, AS I'M SAYING, UH, I'M GONNA THROW A LITTLE BIT, UH, I'M A PAST OWNER OF LAS PPAS. I'M A, I WAS AN INVESTOR OF LAS PPAS. WHEN WE WOULD LOCATE A NEW FACILITY COMMERCIALLY, WE WOULD CHECK OUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS, MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE NOT INFRINGING ON THE NEIGHBORS. WE WANTED THEIR BUSINESS. WE DID NOT WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THEM COMING TO US. IF YOU NOTICE WHERE ALL THESE PALAPAS ARE LOCATED, THEY'RE WELL CENTRALLY, COMMERCIALLY LOCATED. THEY'RE NOT IN NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY'RE NOT IN INFRINGING OTHER PEOPLE'S LIFESTYLES. WE WANT COUNTRY, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT OF COUNTRY HERE. WE, MY WIFE AND I MOVED FROM THE COUNTRY TO A LITTLE BIT OF COUNTRY IN SAN ANTONIO. WE REALLY WANT TO GIVE YOU THE OPPOSITION THAT, UH, ENTREPRENEURSHIP IS ENTREPRENEURSHIP, BUT IT HAS ITS LOCATIONS FOR THAT. I WANNA THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. I APPRECIATE IT. GOD BLESS YOU ALL. THANK YOU, SIR. ALRIGHT. UM, UH, JUST BEEN NOTIFIED THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE MENTIONED EARLIER WANTED TO SPEAK NOW. SO I'LL GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING AND, AND, UH, STEVE VERSE STIG, DO YOU WHAT THAT, DO YOU WANNA STILL WANT TO SPEAK NOW OR LATER? NO, I'M OKAY WITH SPEAKING ON THAT LATER. LATER. OKAY. ANITA FRANKLIN. ANITA FRANKLIN, ANITA, I'M SORRY. YOU'RE CALLING ME. OKAY. OKAY. MY NAME IS ANITA L FRANKLIN, ADDRESS 48 11 DEL CREST 7 8 2 2 OH. I AM IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED U D C AMENDMENTS, 29 DASH ONE AND 16 DASH 10, UH, CONCERNING TO REMOVE OR CHANGE NEIGHBORHOOD REGISTRATION TO COMMUNICATION REGISTRY. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT THE DENIAL BY THE PTAC ON APRIL 11TH, 2022 STAY IN EFFECT. THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE VIABLE AND IMPORTANT ENTITIES THAT SERVE OUR COMMUNITIES WELL WITHIN OUR ASSIGNED BOUNDARIES ASSIGNED BY CITY MASTER PLAN. I NOTICE IN THIS PROPOSED U D C AMENDMENT THAT MOST OF THE VERBIAGE OR SO, UH, MOST OF THE VERBIAGE ASSOCIATION WITH NEIGHBORHOOD AND NEIGHBORHOOD REGISTRATION HAS BEEN WIPED OUT AND REPLACED WITH COMMUNICATIONS AND COMMUNITY, UH, COMMUNICATION REGISTRY. CHANGING THIS AMENDMENT GIVES THESE SELF-APPOINTED GROUPS OF CITIZENS LEVERAGE IN PUTTING OUT MISINFORMATION TO NEIGHBORHOOD CITIZENS. REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOODS ASSOCIATIONS ARE ESTABLISHED TO REPRESENT OTHER PEOPLE, NOT A CERTAIN BLOCK OF PEOPLE. WHEN YOU READ THE PROPOSED U D C, IT APPEARS THAT THIS COMMUNICATION REGISTRY IS TRYING TO SLOWLY GET RID OF REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. WHEN YOU HAVE COMMUNITY GROUPS POPPING UP IN ASSIGNED NEIGHBORHOOD, IT CAUSES MASS CONFUSION RESULTING IN SPLITTING THE DECISIVE FRACTIONS WITH IDEALISTIC VIEWS NOT SHARED BY MOST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD DOES HAVE A RIGHT TO VOICE THEY DECENT OPINION TO THEIR RESPECTIVE DISTRICT OPEN DOOR POLICY. THERE IS NO REASON TO HAVE THESE SELF-APPOINTED GROUPS UNDER THIS ALLEGED COMMUNICATION REGISTRY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. MS. ROSEHILL, DID YOU WANNA SPEAK NOW? I'LL GO LAST WEEK. YOU WANNA GO? OKAY. I'LL GO BACK TO, OH, THAT'S 14. UH, DIEGO CALL. ARE YOU STILL ON WAITS OR DID YOU WANNA SPEAK NOW? WAIT. OKAY. UH, FERNANDO DIEGO, NAME AND ADDRESS? FERNANDO DIEGO, 8 6 2 6 TESORO DRIVE. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON. I AM HERE REPRESENTING THE REAL ESTATE COUNCIL OF SAN ANTONIO. AS Y'ALL KNOW, FOR LONGER THAN I CAN REMEMBER, THE REAL ESTATE COUNCIL HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THE U T C AMENDMENT PROCESS AS THE INDUSTRY TECHNICAL EXPERTS. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY DEPARTMENTS AND EXTERNAL AGENCIES FOR SEVERAL MONTHS NOW TO REVIEW THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AND OFFER OUR PERSPECTIVE AND OUR FEEDBACK, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. OUR [00:45:01] MISSION, AS Y'ALL KNOW, IS TO ADVOCATE FOR RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT POLICIES, PROMOTE THAT, PROMOTE AFFORDABILITY, SPUR ECONOMIC GROWTH, AND MAKE SAN SAN ANTONIO A SUSTAINABLE PLACE TO LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY. WE APPRECIATE THE CITY'S EFFORTS TO ENSURE A MEANINGFUL, UH, STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT PROCESS AND ALSO APPRECIATE THE TECHNICAL, TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE'S COUNTLESS HOURS SPENT GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS. WE BELIEVE THAT ALL THE U D C AMENDMENTS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY, UM, ARE FAIR OR REASONABLE, ARE PRUDENT, AND WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THOSE AS THEY ARE. THANK YOU'ALL. THANK YOU. FERNANDO. UH, MIRANDA COMBS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK NOW OR LATER? LATER. SHE SAID GIMME HER TIME. UH, CHRISTINA COMBS. GIMME HER TIME. I'M GONNA YIELD MY TIME TO ROSE HILL. CHRIS. OKAY. UH, CHRISTINA COMBS. I'M GIVING MY TIME TO ROSEVILLE. OKAY. ONLY ONE PERSON. OKAY. YEAH, ONLY ONE. SO IT'S A MAXIMUM OF THREE, THREE MINUTES. SO DID YOU WANNA SPEAK? UH, NO. NO, NO. OKAY. UH, SYLVIA ESE? NO. HELLO, MY NAME IS SYLVIA ESE, AND I LIVE IN, UH, EIGHT 30 STUDS DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 1 9. AND I'M HERE BECAUSE I'M, I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT 29 DASH ONE 16 DASH EIGHT 16 DASH 10, I DO NOT AGREE. I'M AGAINST IT. AND I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UH, IT CREATES CONFLICT BETWEEN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WHEN THERE'S MORE, UH, LEADERS. UH, I'VE BEEN THE PRESIDENT FOR 15 YEARS AND, UM, THERE'S LITTLE GROUPS THAT WANNA FORM AND WHEN THEY GO REGISTER, THEY HAVEN'T DONE IT TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I'VE HEARD OTHERS. UM, UH, I BELIEVE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO, IT WAS STOPPED FROM HAVING IT. IT, IT WASN'T JUST MY NEIGHBORHOOD. OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS AND OTHER DISTRICTS DID NOT WANTED MORE LEADERS. UM, SO I'M HERE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UH, I'M AGAINST THESE. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? NO, NOT THIS TIME. THANKS. I'M FROM EASTGATE NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, STELLA ASHLEY, MY NAME'S STELLA ASHLEY, NINE 12 EAST CARSON 7 8 2 0 8. UM, I AM PAST PRESIDENT OF GOVERNMENT HILL ALLIANCE AND CURRENT VICE PRESIDENT, AND I WANNA JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A, A FEW, UH, I'M AGAINST THIS ON THE, UH, 29.1. UM, A FEW OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAD, WE EST WERE ESTABLISHED IN 1988. UM, WE HAD A PAST PRESIDENT THAT WAS VOTED OUT AND SHE DIDN'T LIKE THAT. AND WE HAD TO GO TO COURT FOUR TIMES, AND IT WAS FOUND IN FAVOR OF GOVERNMENT HILL. WE EVEN WENT TO MEDI MEDITATION AND, UM, WE UPHELD OUR PART THAT WE WOULD NOT INTERFERE WITH EACH OTHER'S ORGANIZATION. UM, BUT IT, IT DIDN'T TURN OUT THAT WAY. UM, ANOTHER ORGANIZATION HELD A ILLEGAL MEETING TO REMOVE THE BOARD, WHICH LED TO FALSE PAPERS BEING SUBMITTED TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE, WHICH WE HAD TO, UH, HAD TO CORRECT. UM, A LETTER WAS SENT TO THE PARTY BY A CITY REP STATING THAT THERE WAS ONLY ONE ORGANIZATION IN EACH NEIGHBORHOOD UNLESS THE ORIGINAL ORGANIZATION AGREED TO IT. NOW, A MEMBER OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE ON TIER ONE SUBMITTED AN EMAIL STATING SOMEONE ELSE WAS PRESIDENT OF OUR, THAT'S IT. OKAY. JUST, I HOPE YOU VOTE NO. UH, SHE WANTS TO GIVE HER THIR THREE MINUTES TO HER, HER ONE MINUTE. YOU WANT TO GO BACK UP AND GET HER? I'M JUST GONNA GIVE YOU, I'M SORRY, WHO? MINE. CHRISTINA HOLMES. OKAY. UH, I FORGOT WHERE I WAS. ANYWAY, IF THIS AMENDMENT IS PASSED, IT'S GONNA DO GREAT HARM TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS. AND I ASK YOU AGAIN [00:50:01] TO PLEASE NOT, NOT PASS THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MARIE. MARIE STOUT. DO YOU WANNA SPEAK NOW OR LATER? I REALLY WISH MY TIME TO ROSE HILL. OKAY. SHE ALREADY ASKED HER MAXIMUM ALLOTTED TIME. GIVE SOME OR TIME TO SOMEBODY ELSE. YOU CAN SPEAK. SHE'S BEEN OKAY. UH, PHYLLIS, I'M SORRY. IS IT HU OR I'M NOT GONNA SPEAK THE PHYLLIS, IS THAT, I'M SORRY, I CAN'T READ THE LAST NAME. EVERYBODY CHANGING THE TIME SINCE PHYLLIS'S, SIR, WHAT ITEM IS THAT LISTED FOR? UH, 17 ME. READ THE ADDRESS. MAYBE, UH, 1923 IH 35 NEWMAN NEWMAN. OKAY. YES. ABOUT HOW MANY OF MY TIME TO, UH, MR. BIG, MR. RICKS, I CAN'T, I DON'T EVERYTHING. WHAT WAS YOUR NAME, SIR? OSCAR? DID YOU SIGN UP, SIR? YES, HE SIGNED UP. I DO NOT SEE YOUR NAME LISTED. SIR. SIR, WHAT IS YOUR NAME? THE MAN WHO'S, WHO'S OSCAR VIX. HE SIGNED IT. IT WAS ONE PAPER REPRESENTATIVE. WELL, THIS IS ONE OF THESE ONES YOU CAN'T READ. THIS LOOKS LIKE CINDY, THE VERY FIRST PAPER. WHO ARE THE FIRST ONES SIGNED YET? SHOULD BE ON THE FIRST SHEET. WHAT'S YOUR ADDRESS, SIR? . WHAT'S YOUR ADDRESS? 1214, THE CARD. IT SHOULD BE AFTER. I DON'T SEE THAT NAME SIGNED IN ANYWHERE ON THE SHEET. IT SHOULD BE AFTER MINE. JACKIE ERNEST? NO, THERE'S AN ERNEST MITCHELL. I DON'T GO AHEAD. UH, GO MR. V, GO AHEAD AND YOU COME UP. YOU'LL HAVE, UH, THREE MINUTES. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. OKAY. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS OSCAR VICKS AND I LIVE AT 1214 PICC DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. 7 8 2 1 9 U S A. FIRST OF ALL, I'M SPEAKING ON 29 1 16. 10 AND 16 EIGHT. I'VE BEEN LIVING AT 1214 PCARD FOR 46 YEARS. I'VE SERVED AS THE PRESIDENT FOR AT LEAST SIX OR SEVEN TIMES, AND I JUST TOLD HIM, THAT'S IT. SOMEBODY ELSE GOTTA SERVE FOR PRESIDENT. BUT IF YOU BROUGHT SOMETHING LIKE THIS UP TO ME, AFTER 46 YEARS, EVERY MEETING, EVERY PUBLIC MEETING, EVERY COMMISSION MEETING I'VE BEEN TO, I TRY TO MAKE SURE IT'S UNDERSTOOD. WE DO NOT STAY IN NEIGHBORHOODS 40 AND 50 YEARS TO LET SOMEBODY ELSE COME AND TELL US WHAT WE OUGHT TO DO. COME ASK US WHAT WE SUPPOSED TO DO AND LET US, AND LET US HANDLE OUR BUSINESS. AND Y'ALL HANDLE YOUR BUSINESS. ALL THOSE TIMES I'VE BEEN THE PRESIDENT. IF THEY DIDN'T WANT ME TO BE THE PRESIDENT, CALL THE MEETING, VOTE ME OUT. IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE. BUT FOR YOU TO COME IN AND INSULT ME AND SAY, I'VE SERVED SIX TERMS AND TELL ME, OH, WE DON'T WANNA DO WHAT YOU SAY, DO NO MORE. WE JUST GOING TO GET US AN ORGANIZATION HERE AND JUST DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO. THAT AIN'T RIGHT. I DON'T EVEN SEE HOW Y'ALL CAN CONSIDER BRINGING THAT BEFORE. I MEAN, STOP AND THINK ABOUT IT. IF I'VE BEEN LIVING FRIDAY, I'VE BEEN MARRIED 50 YEARS, BEEN HAD THE SAME PHONE NUMBER, THE SAME WOMAN, THE SAME HOUSE FOR FOUR, ALMOST 50 YEARS, AND SOMEBODY COME AND TRY TO TELL ME HOW I'M SUPPOSED TO LIVE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. COME ON NOW. YOU KNOW, I'M A RETIRED VIETNAM VETERAN. I'VE BEEN HALFWAY AROUND THE WORLD FIGHTING FOR OTHER PEOPLE RIGHTS, [00:55:02] AND I COME BACK HOME AND THEY GOT COLORED RESTROOM, COLORED WATER FOUNTAIN. NAH, YOU GOING TO TELL EM I AIN'T SUPPOSED TO STAND UP AND FIGHT FOR MY RIGHTS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD? COME ON NOW. LET'S BE FOR REAL. AND I'M ABOUT SICK AND TIRED OF THIS STUFF ABOUT IT. NOT WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY. I'VE BEEN A MAILMAN FOR 22 YEARS. I'VE BEEN A VIETNAM VETERAN. I'VE BEEN A HUSBAND, A WIFE. ANYTHING YOU CAN THINK OF? I MEAN, A, A WHITE, A HUSBAND. . I AIN'T THAT SERIOUS. OKAY. . BUT I'M JUST SAYING LISTEN, LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE. LISTEN TO WHAT THE PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY. Y'ALL TELL US WE OWN THE CITY PUBLIC SERVICE BILL. BOY, WE, WE GO DOWN THERE. WE CAN'T PAY OUR PHONE BILL ON THE UTILITY BILL. YOU SAY WE OWN THE WATER BOY, WHEN DO WE GET A CHANCE TO SAY WHAT WE DO? YOU KNOW, NOW WE OUGHT TO BE, WE OUGHT TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO COME AND SAY WHAT WE WANT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IF THE PEOPLE GET TOGETHER AND DECIDE THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT, THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT. BUT A COMMITTEE TO COME IN THERE AND SAY, OH, WE GONNA LET THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHO REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE THAT WANNA PUT AN EXTRA NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT LET THEM COME UP HERE AND GIVE YOU A SCENARIO. JUST LIKE I GAVE YOU ONE THAT'S JUST TOTAL CONFUSION. I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT'S SO HARD ABOUT DECIDING? YOU DON'T WANT ME TO BE THE PRESIDENT? YOU KNOW WHY? YOU GOTTA COME IN THERE AND SAY, WELL, YOU'VE BEEN THE PRESIDENT ALL THESE TIME, BUT WE DON'T LIKE YOU NO MORE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. JACKIE RITA. HI, MY NAME IS JACKIE REED. I'M IN DISTRICT TWO. UM, WE HAVE A HOUSE ON, UH, THREE 15 UPLAND. SO I BASICALLY CAN'T SUCCEED, UH, MR. VICKS BECAUSE HE'S, UM, HE'S MEAN, WHAT HE SAYS. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I BASICALLY AM AGAINST THE NEIGHBORHOOD REGISTRY. UH, 29 DASH 1 16, 10 AND 16 EIGHT. I'M AGAINST IT. THANK YOU. EARN ERNEST MITCHELL. HE HAD TO LEAVE. HE HAD TO LEAVE. OKAY. ANITA FRANKLIN. OH, ALL RIGHT. JIM BAILEY. JIM, DID YOU WANNA SPEAK NOW? IS JIM HERE? I I'LL COME BACK. ROSE HILL, HUH? SPEAK ROSE HILL. MR. YOU WANNA SPEAK FOR MS. MS. HILL? OKAY. YEAH. RO ROSE HILL IS READY TO SPEAK WITH THE PERSON WHO YIELDED THEIR TIME. YEAH. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. ROSE HILL, PRESIDENT OF GOVERNMENT, HILL LIFE LABOR ASSOCIATION. I'M HERE TODAY TO POSE 29 DASH ONE 16 DASH EIGHT 16 DASH 10. WHY? BECAUSE THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO BILL THE REGISTRY FOR A TOOL TO IDENTIFY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. WE WERE GIVEN MASTER PLANS, WE WERE GIVEN BYLAWS, AND MAJORITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE UNDER 5 0 1 C THREE. HOW THIS WILL IMPACT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WILL BE A TREMENDOUS IMPACT. IT'S GONNA CAUSE DIVISION, IT'S GONNA CAUSE CONFUSION IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD, A VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOOD ALL ACROSS SAN ANTONIO. NOT WILL THIS ONLY AFFECT DISTRICT TWO. AND I'D LIKE FOR EVERYBODY IN DISTRICT TWO, WILL YOU PLEASE STAND. THESE PRESIDENTS REPRESENT 30 NEIGHBORHOODS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IN, IN DISTRICT TWO. WE'VE BEEN VOTED IN BY OUR COMMUNITY. WE WORK WELL WITH THE, WITH THE COMMUNITY LEADERS. WE BUILD PARTNERSHIPS. MAJORITY OF US ARE, UH, CANDIDATES OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO LEADERSHIP ACADEMY. WE LEARNED A LOT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE LEARNED A LOT WAS TO TRY TO WORK TOGETHER AND TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE FINDING SOLUTIONS IN WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT TRYING TO DIVIDE US AND TRYING TO DO, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY SHOULD RECEIVE THE NOTIFICATIONS. I'M NOT GONNA KNOCK THAT. EVERYBODY SHOULD GET THAT, BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF DESTROYING NEIGHBORHOODS BY OVERLAPPING. THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE A PROBLEM AT. WHEN YOU START DOING THAT, WHY DO WE HAVE NOT HAVE TWO MAYORS OR EACH AND EACH YEAR, DISTRICTS THAT YOU'RE HERE TODAY HAVE THREE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSIONS FOR EACH DISTRICT. THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT, BECAUSE YOU WANNA BE ABLE TO GET THINGS ACCOMPLISHED BY DOING THAT. YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET ANYTHING ACCOMPLISHED. WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE'RE JUST GONNA CAUSE MORE CHAOS. AND THERE'S GONNA BE LEGAL PROBLEMS ON THESE 5 0 1 C THREES. OUR NEIGHBORHOODS RIGHT NOW ARE, ARE OFF. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE, THEY'RE BUILT OFF MEMBERSHIP. SOME NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS [01:00:01] CAN AFFORD MEMBERSHIP, SOME CAN'T. SO WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO THOSE 5 0 1 C THREES? THEY'RE WORKING HARD WITH U S A AND ALL THESE OTHER PLACES TO TRY TO GET LITTLE MONIES IN TO HELP REHABILITATE HOMES AND DO COMMUNITY EVENTS. WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THAT? YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GONNA, WHEN IT REALLY BOILS DOWN, COMPETITION. COMPETITION. AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO COMPETE AGAINST EACH OTHER. BUT IF THIS THING HAPPENS, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A LOT OF LEGAL PROBLEMS AND YOU'RE GONNA SEE A LOT OF COMPETITIONS AND A LOT OF FIGHTING AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DOING FALSIFICATION OF DOCUMENTATIONS THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE DOING. THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES, CONCERNS THAT I HAD. I RECENTLY WAS REMOVED FROM THE REGISTRY, FALSELY FALSE DOCUMENTATION WAS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO SAYING THAT I WASN'T A PRESIDENT ON SIX 17, ON SIX 30 WHEN I REALIZED IT WAS THE CITY PUT ME BACK ON. THANK GOD THAT SOMEBODY DOWN THERE AT NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING WAS SMART ENOUGH TO REALIZE THAT THE PERSON THAT HAD FALSIFIED THAT INFORMATION, SHAME ON THEM FOR FALSIFYING DOCUMENTATION. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU BRING IN GROUPS THAT HAVE DIFFERENT AGENDAS AND WE DON'T HAVE THOSE AGENDAS. WELL, WE HAVE, WE WANNA WORK FOR OUR COMMUNITY. WE'RE PASSIONATE AND WILL FIGHT FOR WHAT WE BELIEVE IS RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JIM BAILEY, ARE YOU HERE? THEY'RE GOOD. AFTERNOON CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. JIM BAILEY, 2 41. KING WILLIAM, UH, STANDING ROOM ONLY. SO I WAS OUT IN THE HALL. UM, I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK TO YOU VERY BRIEFLY ABOUT THE U D C AMENDMENTS RELATED TO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. SORRY, I'M OUTTA BREATH. JUST RAN IN. UM, SO THERE'S BEEN A LONG PROCESS THAT LED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE, UH, STARTING BACK BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, A YEAR LONG PUBLIC PROCESS WHERE CITIZENS GOT TOGETHER WITH CITY STAFF AND SORT OF COMBED THROUGH A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS. UM, AFTER THE PANDEMIC, THE REMOVING BARRIERS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE, UM, STARTED BACK UP WITH ME AS ITS CHAIR UNDER THE HOUSING COMMISSION. UH, WE PUT THE AMENDMENTS FORWARD FOR PUBLIC CONSIDERATION. UM, WENT THROUGH THE P T A C, UM, GARNERED, UH, A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF SUPPORT AT THE HOUSING COMMISSION AND A UNANIMOUS VOTE AT THE ZONING COMMISSION TWO WEEKS AGO. SO WE BELIEVE THAT, UM, THREE YEARS OF, OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND, AND COUNTLESS MEETINGS IS, IS SUFFICIENT TO WE BELIEVE, HAVE, UH, THOROUGHLY VETTED ALL OF THESE ITEMS. UM, WE, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF CONCERNS, UH, PARTICULARLY REGARDING, YOU KNOW, SETBACKS AND FIRE PROTECTION AND SO FORTH. UH, THE FIRE MARSHAL HAS WEIGHED IN ON THIS, UH, HAS NO CONCERNS WHATSOEVER. SO I STAND HERE TODAY AND, AND URGE YOU TO, UH, PASS THOSE AMENDMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JIM. UH, CYNTHIA SPIELMAN. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS CYNTHIA SPIELMAN. I LIVE AT 900 WEST WOODLAWN. UM, I JUST WANNA TAKE A QUICK MOMENT OF YOUR TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE LETTERS THAT YOU RECEIVED FROM, UM, TIER ONE NEIGHBORHOODS. YOU RECEIVED 48 LETTERS FROM 36 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, HOAS TO COALITIONS REPRESENTING MULTIPLE NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS EIGHT COUNCIL DISTRICTS. 12 INDIVIDUALS ALSO SUBMITTED LETTERS. THESE LETTERS ARE NOT THE RESULT OF QUICK ACTION. THEY WEREN'T FORM LETTERS THAT PEOPLE JUST SIGNED. THEIR MOST ARE FROM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, AND THE AMENDMENTS WERE VETTED AND VOTED ON. IT TOOK TIME AND CONSIDERATION. TIER ONE U D C COMMITTEE'S BEEN WORKING ON THE AMENDMENT ISSUES INTENSIVELY SINCE 2019, GETTING INFORMATION OUT TO RESIDENTS THROUGH OUR OUTREACH, WHICH INCLUDED VISITING NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. AND WE HELD TWO MAJOR WORKSHOPS. WE GATHERED CONCERNS AND INFORMATION FROM NEIGHBORHOODS THAT RESULTED IN OUR 13 ORIGINAL AMENDMENTS. WE WANNA THANK D S D FOR THEIR INVALUABLE HELP AND FOR CREATING A PARTNERSHIP. AND WE'RE APPRECIATIVE OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET AND WORK TOGETHER. FOR THE RECORD THE FOLLOWING, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, COALITIONS, AND INDIVIDUALS HAVE TAKEN THE TIME AND EFFORT TO REACH OUT TO YOU TODAY. ALTA VISTA, ALAMO FARMSTEAD C**K ROAD, BEACON HILL, CHURCHILL FOREST, CROWN HILL PARK, DEL CREST CONCERNED CITIZENS OF DIGNITY HILL, BELLEVUE AREA, EASTERN TRIANGLE GROUP. HIGHLAND PARK, HISTORIC WEST SIDE, INGRAM HILLS, INSPIRATION HILLS KEYSTONE, KING WILLIAM ASSOCIATION, LAS PALMAS, MCNE PARK, MEMORIAL HEIGHTS. MISSION, SAN JOSE. UH, MONTEVISTA IS AT BEND. OKAY, WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MS. . UH, LINDA MAPLE TRIANGLE IS LINDA MAPLE. [01:05:04] SHE'S ALREADY EX EXTINGUISHED HER TIME. DID, DID YOU WANNA SPEAK OR NO? OKAY. UH, RUBEN PENA. YEAH, SHE'S ALREADY MAXED OUT HER TIME. TIME. EVERYTHING CHANGES. FINE. AND CMA, I'M SORRY, MARIO PENA, IS THERE STILL A CHANCE TO SPEAK? YEAH. WHEN THE ITEM COMES UP OR SPEAK NOW? NO, WE CAN WAIT IF IT'S ON, IF IT'S ON INDIVIDUAL. IS IT ONE OF THE ITEMS? ONE. OKAY. UH, CIMA. KAREN KAREEM? YEAH, I'LL, I'LL SPEAK WITH HER. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. SO THAT'S THE, UH, ALL OF THE CITIZENS THAT YOU HEARD. UH, THOSE OF YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ABOUT EITHER THESE U D C AMENDMENTS OR THE PLAN AMENDMENTS. WE'LL GET TO YOU IN A MINUTE. UM, NOW WE'RE GOING TO, TO ATTEMPT TO MAKE A CONSENT, UH, MOTION. BUT AT THIS TIME, OR AFTER HEARING THOSE COMMENTS, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS YOU WOULD LIKE TO PULL? I'D LIKE TO SEE 16. EIGHT AND 1610 PULLED PLEASE. 16. EIGHT. 16. 10. ANY OTHER ITEMS? UH, 22 1. 22 1. I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT. DO YOU MEAN 21? DO YOU MEAN 20? THE 2221. THE CORRIDOR. CORRIDOR. SORRY, I MISHEARD. I'M GOING DEAF. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT. SO THIS CAN BE A VERY LONG MOTION. UH, ALL THE ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTIONS OF ITEMS THREE AND FOUR, WHICH ARE BEING, UH, PULLED FOR RECUSAL. ITEM NUMBER 11, WITH HIS, WHICH IS WITHDRAWN. ITEM NUMBER 12, ITEM NUMBER 13, ITEM NUMBER 14, ITEM NUMBER 15 ON ITEM 17, ALL U D C AMENDMENTS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE DASH ONE RELATED TO QUALIFIED TRANSITIONAL HOUSING. 14 DASH NINE RELATED TO PARKLAND DEDICATION, WHICH HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN. 29 DASH ONE RELATED TO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REGISTRY. 23 DASH SIX RELATED TO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. 26 1 RELATED TO REQUIRED SPACING FOR GAS STATIONS. 16 DASH ONE RELATED TO REDUCING THE HEIGHT LIMIT TO ONE AND A HALF STORY FOR R ONE AND R TWO AND TWO AND A HALF STORY FOR R 3 16 5 RELATED TO MODIFYING THE HALF STORY DEFINITION. 15. TWO. RELATED TO NOT REQUIRING A PLAT FOR ELECTRICAL SUBSTATIONS. SEVEN. ONE RELATED TO FEES IN LIEU OF PARKLAND. DEDICATION. 20 DASH SIX RELATED TO THE HISTORIC AND DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION AND CREATION OF THE COMPLIANCE AND TECHNICAL ADVISORY BOARD. 28 2 RELATED TO PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY ACCESSIBILITY. 24 DASH ONE RELATED TO BICYCLE FACILITIES. 27 DASH THREE RELATED TO STORM WATER, LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT. FIVE DASH 16 RELATED TO OVERSIZED VEHICLES. FIVE DASH 26 RELATED TO THE REPLACEMENT VALUE OF NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURES. 16 DASH EIGHT. 16 DASH EIGHT AND 16 DASH 10 ARE RELATED TO COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION REGISTRATION AND NOTICE PROVISIONS. ALRIGHT, SO 16 DASH EIGHT AND 16 DASH 10 22 DASH 21 IS RELATED TO THE, IT'S IT'S RELATED TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING PROGRAM. RIGHT. UH, IN ADDITION, THIS MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE, THIS MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING U D C AMENDMENTS, FIVE DASH 29 RELATED TO THE DEFINITION OF AN INDOOR ENTERTAINMENT VENUE, INCLUDING EDITS MADE BY THE ZONING COMMISSION. 10 DASH FOUR RELATED TO NOT REQUIRING REIFICATION FOR ZONING REQUESTS THAT DECREASE THE DENSITY OF RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, INCLUDING EDITS MADE BY THE ZONING COMMISSION 19 DASH ONE RELATED TO THE WEST SIDE CREEK'S WATER QUALITY PROTECTION AREA, INCLUDING EDITS MADE BY THE ZONING COMMISSION. NINE DASH ONE RELATED TO LANDSCAPED BUFFER YARDS, INCLUDING EDITS MADE BY THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS 30 DASH ONE RELATED TO SUPPORTIVE HOUSING CAMPUSES WITH EDITS MADE BY THE ZONING COMMISSION. 13 DASH ONE RELATED TO THE [01:10:01] MISSION PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT. WITH EDITS MADE BY BOTH THE ZONING COMMISSION AND THE HISTORIC AND DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION, THEY CAPTURE THAT. AND I'M NOT GONNA REPEAT THAT, . THAT IS CORRECT. ALRIGHT. SO MOVED. SECOND MOTION BY VICE CHAIR CREW HAYNES. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PECK, CAN YOU PLEASE CONDUCT THE VOTE? COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI. APPROVED COMM. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE. AYE. UM, COMMISSIONER PECK? YES. COMMISSIONER CREO HAYES? YES. CHAIR, PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. [Plats  ] ALRIGHT, WE'RE ON TO PLAN AMENDMENTS. OH, I'M SORRY. UH, WE NEEDED TO CON UH, DO ITEM THREE AND FOUR. OH, OKAY. SO, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTANI HAS LEFT THE MEETINGS. THREE 13. DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS THREE AND FOUR? SO MOVED. SECOND. UH, MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER PECK. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA, CAN YOU CONDUCT THE VOTE? COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI. APPROVED. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM AYE. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER PECK? YES. COMMISSIONER CREO HAYNES YES. COM UM, CHAIR PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. CAN WE LET COMMISSIONER BUSMAN BACK IN? IT IS THREE 14 AND COMMISSIONER BUSTANI HAS REJOINED THE MEETING. [Comprehensive Master Plan Amendments  ] ALRIGHT, UH, WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 12. THE STAFF HAVE A PRESENTATION. UH, YES. THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A PLAN AMENDMENT FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO URBAN LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, UH, THE, FOR A, UH, DUPLEX STYLE COMMUNITY, UH, WITH A DENSITY OF FIVE UNITS PER ACRE WITH PARK SPACE. UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE OF TWO WEEKS, UH, AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT. THANK YOU. OKAY. DOES THE APPLICANT MAKE THE FORMAL REQUEST? IF YOU DON'T MIND JUST KIND OF KEEPING THE CHATTER DOWN SO WE CAN HEAR THAT. APPLICANT. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR COMMISSIONERS, EMILY WEISLER WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN. UH, WE HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH STONEWALLS DATES, STONEWALL RANCH AND CIELO RIDGE, UM, AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO AUGUST 10TH PLANNING COMMISSION TO ALLOW FOR MORE DISCUSSIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, MS. PER PERIS. I'M SORRY. YOU HAVE A ONE AND A HALF MINUTE. HI, EVERYONE. UM, MY NAME'S ANDRA PERUS. I'M HERE ALONG WITH JAKE STORK ON BEHALF OF THE C L O RIDGE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND ALSO INDIVIDUALLY. UM, WE ARE A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ABOUT HALF A MILE FROM THE PROPOSED CIELO VISTA DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE IN DISCUSSIONS, UM, WITH THE DEVELOPER THROUGH THEIR REPRESENTATIVE, BUT WANTED TO OFFICIALLY NOTE THAT WE HAVE CONCERNS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, SPECIFICALLY WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE AREA. MOST NOTABLY THE FACT THAT IT SITS IN A FLOODPLAIN AS WELL AS THE, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND THE STATUS, THE, THE DETERIORATION OF CIELO VISTA AND WHETHER IT CAN SUPPORT A COM A COMMUNITY AS PROPOSED. UM, WE DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THE DEVELOPER THROUGH THEIR REPRESENTATIVE IS IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS AND ARE, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER TO ADDRESS OUR CONCERNS AND ARE HOPEFUL THAT AT THE UPCOMING MEETING IN TWO WEEKS, WE CAN COME TO AGREEMENT ON SOME PROPOSED RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS THAT ADDRESS OUR CONCERNS. SO, JUST FORMALLY WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE THAT WE ARE IN DISCUSSIONS AND WE'LL UPDATE YOU AT THE, AT THE NEXT MEETING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. PER AND I APPRECIATE, AGAIN, THE COMMITMENT TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THE DEVELOPER TO OPENLY FIND RESOLUTION. UH, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE TO AUGUST 10TH. DO HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED. SECOND. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PECK. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SIEGEL, TAKE THE VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YES. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? [01:15:01] YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER BISTA MONTE AYE. COMMISSIONER PECK? YES. COMMISSIONER CARILLO HAYNES? YES. CHAIR, PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE. THANK YOU. I WANNA MOVE AHEAD TO 14 SINCE THE APPLICANT'S BE REQUESTING CONTINUANCE, CAN WE SKIP AHEAD TO 14? UH, STAFF HAVE A PRESENTATION? YES, SIR. ITEM 14 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RES RESOLUTION AMENDING THE EBNER LEON CREEK COMMUNITY PLAN BY CHANGING THE FUTURE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ESTATE TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL LOCATED AT 83 90 NORTH VERDE DRIVE. THERE WERE 14 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, FIVE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION 36 RECEIVED OPPOSED OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET. AND VERDE HILLS, H O A IS OPPOSED. THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A SIX WEEK CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER THE 14TH, AND WE DO HAVE PEOPLE SIGNED IN TO SPEAK. THANK YOU. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? NO, I DON'T BELIEVE SO. OKAY. UH, UH, FOR THE, UH, PEOPLE THAT ARE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TODAY OR, OR WAIT UNTIL SEPTEMBER 4TH? THEY'LL OPPOSE A CONTINUANCE. OKAY. UM, FIRST, I, UH, KAREN TWEEL, TWEEL, APOLOGIES. HELLO, MY NAME IS KAREN TWEEL. MY FAMILY OWNS THE PROPERTY AT 83 10 NORTH RUDY DRIVE, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY UNDER CONSIDERATION. UM, UH, MR. GLENDO, THE PROPERTY OWNER, HAS SOME OBJECTIONS TO THE EXISTING STATE OF HIS PROPERTY, SUCH AS NOISE AND LIGHTING. HE, HIS PLANS AFTER REZONING WOULD MAKE THE NOISE AND LIGHTING WORSE. FOR THOSE OF US WHO ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. HE PLANS TO OPERATE FOOD KIOSKS IN WHAT IS NOW THE BACKYARD OUTSIDE OF BUSINESS HOURS. AND WE ARE CONCERNED THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE CAROUSING ADJACENT TO MY BACKYARD ON NIGHTS, WEEKENDS, AND HOLIDAYS. THE DENTISTRY AND REAL ESTATE OFFICES, WHICH MR. G GLENDO PLANS TO PLACE IN WHAT IS CURRENTLY THE HOUSE WILL CAUSE PEOPLE TO BE COMING AND GOING ALL DAY LONG, AS IS THE NATURE OF THEIR BUSINESSES. UM, WE HAVE CONCERNS WITH THAT REGARDING SLAMMING OF CAR DOORS, CHILDREN RUNNING THROUGH MY YARD, TAUNTING MY DOG, AND FOLKS COMING ONTO THE PROPERTY TO PICK UP NUTS OFF OF THE PECAN TREE AND SO FORTH. THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT CURBS AND SIDEWALKS, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND BECAUSE IT, THERE'S A VERY GENTLE SLOPE IF, IF ANY, AT ALL BETWEEN THE, THE DRIVEWAY AND THE GRASS AND THE ROAD IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE. UM, I HAVE EVERY CONFIDENCE THAT PEOPLE WILL BE PARKING IN MY GRASS, TURNING AROUND IN MY DRIVEWAY, WHICH WILL DETERIORATE THE ASPHALT OF MY DRIVEWAY AND EVEN OCCASIONALLY PARKING IN MY DRIVEWAY, BLOCKING MY INGRESS IN EGRESS. UM, MOST IMPORTANTLY THOUGH, WE FEEL THAT MR. GALINDO'S PARKING IS INSUFFICIENT AND THAT'S GONNA CAUSE MORE FLOODING, WHICH CURRENTLY EXISTS IN MY YARD BECAUSE THE FLOODING GOES ACROSS HIS FIRST. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU. TRACY COWDEN, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY. MY NAME IS TRACY COWDEN AND I LIVE AT 1 0 1 9 0 BELGA DRIVE. I AM OPPOSED TO ITEM 14 ON YOUR AGENDA FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS. THIS IS A QUIET RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE IS A SINGLE ENTRANCE AND EXIT TO THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD ON BANDERA ROAD, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT TO THIS PROPERTY. TO CHANGING THIS ZONING TO COMMERCIAL WITH CHANGE. THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD NEGATIVELY AFFECT PROPERTY VALUES AND QUALITY OF LIFE, ESPECIALLY FOR THE PROPERTIES NEXT TO AND ACROSS FROM THE PROPERTY. UNDER CONSIDERATION, AS YOU JUST HEARD FROM THE RESIDENT NEXT DOOR, THERE ARE PLENTY OF AVAILABLE COMMERCIAL LOTS ON BANDERA THAT COULD BE REHABILITATED WITHOUT AFFECTING THE QUALITY AND THE PROPERTY VALUES OF AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. UM, CINDY LOPEZ, I WANNA THANK Y'ALL FOR LISTENING TO ME, BUT, UM, I LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE RESIDENT THAT IS, CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? OH, UM, CINDY LOPEZ, 83 0 5 NORTH VERDE. UM, I LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE RESIDENT THAT'S WANTING TO MAKE IT COMMERCIAL. UH, WE MOVED TO THIS SUBDIVISION, UM, 16 YEARS AGO, ALMOST 17 YEARS [01:20:01] AGO, KNOWING THAT WE ALL HAD TWO TO 10 ACRE TRACKS. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLACE. IT'S LIKE LIVING IN THE COUNTRY. AND THEN YOU GO OUT AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE WORLD. EVERY, EVERYTHING'S AROUND US, BUT AS IT IS, AS, AS OF NOW, UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION. UM, THEY COME THROUGH OUR DRIVEWAY, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF DEER. UM, AND HAVING HIM HAVE THE KIOSH AND WANTING TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE PEOPLE COME THROUGH. CHERNOBYL PARK IS ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT HE MENTIONED WANTING TO DO, UM, THAT WOULD MAKE IT EXTREMELY, I'M OPPOSED OF ALL THIS BECAUSE THERE'S NO PARKING FOR THESE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO COME IN AND, AND EAT OR IN THE BACKYARD. AND OF COURSE, I FEEL SORRY FOR THE NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR, KAREN THAT JUST SPOKE. BUT, UM, IT, THERE'S NO PARKING. SO AS IT IS, THEY'LL PARK ON THE SIDE OF THE GRASS. THEY COME THROUGH OUR YARD. UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO HIGHLY OPPOSE OF, UM, THE BUSINESS BEING UP AT THE FRONT THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. UHHUH . UH, TERRELL FREDERICK. HELLO, MY NAME'S TERRELL FRIEDRICH. I LIVE AT 1 0 4 4 0 BELGA DRIVE. AND FIRST OF ALL, EVERYBODY WHO'S HERE FOR THIS, RAISE YOUR HAND OR STAND UP. STAND UP. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE HIGHLY REPRESENTED. WE'RE HIGHLY FOCUSED AND WE'RE HIGHLY MOTIVATED. THIS HAS NO PLACE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS A BUSINESS THAT'S GONNA BE SELLING FOOD. PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE DRIVING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, DISCARDING THE RUBBISH. HE HAS THE BRIGHT IDEA THAT HE WANTS PEOPLE TO BE OPEN THROUGH THE OVAL PARK TO DRIVE PAST MY HOUSE, TO COME TO HIS PLACE TO EAT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, WE DON'T NEED A CONTINUANCE. HE COULD TELL US HE'S GONNA PAVE IT IN GOLD AND NOT GONNA CHANGE ANYBODY'S MIND. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING THE CONTINUANCE BE, UH, REMOVED AND WE VOTE ON THIS TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. UH, JUANITA SALINAS, IS IT POSSIBLE? ? GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JUANITA ENA SALINAS AND I'M HERE TODAY WITH MY HUSBAND JASON WESTER, WHO'S HERE IN THE AUDIENCE. WE'RE RESIDENTS OF VERDE HILLS AT 79 70 SOUTH VERDE DRIVE. THANK YOU FOR GIVING US TIME TODAY TO SHARE OUR VOICES IN OPPOSITION TO ANY COMMERCIAL USE OF A PROPERTY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THIS IS REFERRING TO ITEM NUMBER 14. WE'VE BEEN IN VER THE HILLS SINCE 2015. WHEN WE BUILT OUR HOME, WE WERE WELCOMED BY NEIGHBORS, MANY WHO ARE NOW FRIENDS TO A COMMUNITY. WE CHOSE VE OF THE HILLS BECAUSE OF THE TREES, THE QUIET SOLITUDE. AND WE HAVE FOUND IT TO BE A COMMUNITY OF PEACE AND TRANQUILITY. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH ONLY HAS ONE WAY IN AND OUT, HAS BEEN HERE SINCE THE SIXTIES. THERE ARE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. THE PROPERTY OWNER, MR. GALINDO, HAS OWNED 83 90 NORTH VERVE FOR ABOUT A YEAR. AND HE WANTS TO COME IN AND CHANGE THIS. AND WHILE WE THINK HE MAY BE A PERFECTLY NICE PERSON, HE'S REALLY NOT PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. HE DOESN'T LIVE THERE AND HE DOESN'T HAVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN MIND. HE HAS HIS INVESTMENT IN MIND. WE KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT'S THE WAY OF LIFE THAT WE WANNA PRESERVE. I'VE PUT UP A MAP HERE THAT SHOWS ALL OF THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE OPPOSED. THERE ARE 44 RESIDENCES, OF WHICH 37 HAVE SIGNED A PETITION THAT WE DON'T WANT THIS PLAN AMENDMENT TO GO THROUGH, OR ANY ZONING. THERE WERE ANOTHER FIVE WHO SUBMITTED OPPOSITION DIRECTLY THROUGH THEIR FORMS. THIS IS OVER 95% OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS SIGNED AND MOBILIZED THAT WE DON'T WANT ANY COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. SO I WANNA REITERATE WHAT MR. FRIEDRICH SAID, WHICH IS, WE DON'T WANNA A CONTINUANCE. WE WANNA GO AHEAD AND SEE IF YOU ALL WILL VOTE ON THIS TODAY SO THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND HAVE, UH, THE DENIAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. UH, NOE LOPEZ. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME'S NO LOPEZ. I LIVE AT 83 0 5 NORTH VERDE DRIVE. AND, UM, I'M PRETTY MUCH GONNA BE REPEATING WHAT MOST EVERYBODY ELSE HAS BEEN SAYING. YOU KNOW, MY WIFE AND I MOVED FROM THE HOUSTON AREA [01:25:01] DOWN HERE TO SAN ANTONIO 16 YEARS AGO. STARTED LOOKING FOR A PLACE THAT WAS GONNA BE WHAT WE THOUGHT AND SHOULD BE OUR FINAL HOMESTEAD PLACE TO STAY RETIRE. IT'S A LOVELY PLACE. IT'S QUIET AREA. UM, A LOT OF NATURE, I BELIEVE WITH ANY KIND OF COMMERCIAL ENCROACHING INTO OUR RESIDENTIAL AREA WILL AFFECT THAT. UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SMALL ISSUES WITH PEOPLE COMING IN, USING THE ENTRANCE FOR U-TURNS TO STOP AND GET ON THE PHONE. THEY SIT THERE FOR 30 MINUTES AND YOU WONDER WHAT ARE THEY UP TO? I THINK IF WE HAVE THIS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY COMING, PASSING, WE'RE GONNA HAVE HIGH TRAFFIC. THEY'RE GONNA BE UTILIZING OUR HORSESHOE DRIVEWAYS TO MAKE U-TURNS. IT HAPPENS. UM, SO WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, I AM OPPOSED FOR THIS TO MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. LARRY MOORE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS LANDY MOORE. I LIVE AT 97 0 7 SOUTH VERDE DRIVE IN VERDE HILLS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ALL OF US PRETTY MUCH ARE GONNA TELL YOU THE SAME THING. WE HAVE AN UNDISCOVERED, QUIET, FANTASTIC NEIGHBORHOOD. WE ALL CHOSE TO LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. WE CAME TO VERDE HILLS FOR THE WAY OF LIFE. WE HAVE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMERCIALIZATION OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I CANNOT GIVE IT MY BLESSING IN ANY MATTER, NO MATTER WHAT'S CALLED FOR WHAT'S CHANGED, HOW WE CAN MAKE IT BETTER TO SELL IT. I'M FIRMLY AGAINST IT. I LIKE MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I LOVE MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I LIKE MY NEIGHBORS. WE ALL KNOW EACH OTHER. WE HAVE A VERY SPECIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS JUST A BAD FIT, IN MY OPINION, IN ANY MANNER. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME OUT. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A A LOT OF FOLKS HERE AND IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU ENGAGE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY. I'M A LITTLE SENSITIVE TO THE FACT THAT THE APPLICANT'S NOT HERE TO STATE THEIR CASE. UH, SO DO WE KNOW WHY THE APPLICANT IS NOT HERE? THE APPLICANT IS AWARE OF THE OPPOSITION AND THEY WERE HOPING TO USE THE TIME TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY. OKAY. THAT THE TIME'S IT'S ALREADY EXPIRED TO SERVE FOR PUBLIC COMP. AGAIN, HE CAN SAY ANYTHING HE WANTS, IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE. SO, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER 14TH. WE DON'T WANNA CONTINUE. WE DON'T WANT IT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION ON THIS. I'M JUST GONNA GO AHEAD AND JUST, UM, I, I MOVE, UH, THAT, UH, ITEM PA 20 22 1 1 1 60 0 0 6 1, UH, FOR DENIAL. SECOND. SECOND MOTION, UH, FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER ORIAN. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MILAM. IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY. THE VOTE, PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. UM, COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. ZUKI. COMMISSIONER ZUKI. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM. AYE. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE. NO. COMM. UM, COMMISSIONER PECK? YES. COMMISSIONER CARILLO HAYNES? YES. CHAIR, PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR DENIAL. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. APPRECIATE IT. UM, ITEM AM NUMBER 13. I WAS HOPING SOME, I WAS HOPING. WELL, YEAH. I WANT TO TELL Y'ALL THANK YOU FOR OUR FREEDOM. THANK YOU. GOD BLESS YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. ANN BEDA ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE BROOKS AREA REGIONAL CENTER FROM BUSINESS INNOVATION. MIXED USE TO URBAN MIXED USE LOCATED AT 9 6 1 3 US HIGHWAY 180 1 NORTH. THERE WERE 21 TOTAL NOTICES, UH, MAILED ZERO WERE RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION. [01:30:01] AND THERE ARE TWO IN SUPPORT OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET WITH KNOWN REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE APPLICANT SEEKS A PLAN AMENDMENT TO URBAN MIXED USE TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO M H P MANUFACTURED HOUSING PARK DISTRICT. THE PROPOSED URBAN MIXED USE IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA AND SURROUNDING LAND USE. THE BROOKS AREA REGIONAL CENTER HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS IMPORTANT FOR EMPLOYMENT GENERATING USES. AND THIS AREA IS DESIGNATED BUSINESS INNOVATION MIXED USE BECAUSE THE BROOK PLAN ENVISIONS THIS AREA FOR EMPLOYMENT ALONG LOOP FOUR 10 AND EAST OF I 37. INCREMENTAL PLAN AMENDMENTS AND REZONING ALLOW ALLOWING RESIDENTIAL ENCROACHMENT INTO THESE AREAS IS DISCOURAGED. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL. AND THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THIS CASE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU MR. CHRISTENSEN. PUT MY POWERPOINT UP. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS. PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, THREE 10 SOUTH ST. MARY'S, SUITE 2,700. I'VE GOT A LITTLE POWERPOINT I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH. I'LL BE AS BRIEF AS I CAN. I KNOW YOU'LL HAVE A LOT ON YOUR AGENDA TODAY. . HOW DO I GO FORWARD AND BACK? I JUST, JUST TELL YOU. OKAY. KIND OF. UM, SO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION, UH, WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR HERE IS WE SUBMITTED A REZONING FOR, FOR MANUFACTURED HOME PARK DISTRICT. THIS IS THE OLD FOUR SEASONS MANUFACTURED HOME PARK. UM, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WHICH I DON'T KNOW THE COMPLETE HISTORY OF HOW LONG IT'S BEEN THERE, BUT I DO KNOW THAT I THINK THERE'S OKAY, I DO KNOW THAT. UM, OKAY. FOUR SEASONS. I THINK WE SKIPPED ONE LAST. IT WAS, IT WAS, IT'S JUST WHITE. OH. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE FIRST PAGE? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. UM, SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS, AND I GOT THIS HISTORY, UM, THERE'S STILL TWO FAMILIES LIVING THERE IN MANUFACTURED HOMES. UH, IN 2005 THERE WERE SOME SEWER ISSUES. SO THE CITY CAME IN AND SHUT THE MANUFACTURED HOME PARK DOWN. UM, MOST OF THE RESIDENTS, UH, VACATED EXCEPT FOR THE TWO THAT ARE THERE TODAY. SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS WE ASKED FOR MANUFACTURED HOME PARK ZONING. UNFORTUNATELY, THE WAY THE BROOKS PLAN IS DRAFTED, WE HAD TO ASK FOR URBAN MIXED USE PLAN DESIGNATION, WHICH, AS WE ALL KNOW, MOST MANUFACTURED HOME PARKS ARE ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF THE CITY. THEY'RE NOT SOMETHING WE'D CONSIDER URBAN MIXED USE, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO ASK FOR. AND SO THE, UH, THREE PILLARS, COMMUNITIES, I'LL GET TO THEM IN A MINUTE. UH, THEY'RE A LARGE NATIONWIDE MANUFACTURED HOME PARK COMPANY. THEY HAVE THE PROPERTY UNDER CONTRACT, THEY WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE IT AND, UH, BASICALLY BRING IT BACK TO LIFE, CONNECT IT TO CITY WATER AND SEWER. WE'VE TOLD THE TWO EXISTING RESIDENTS THEY'LL BE ALLOWED TO STAY. THEY'RE ON SEPTIC TODAY. WE WILL HOOK THEM UP TO CITY SEWER, WHICH WILL BE MUCH BETTER FOR THEM. UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS SOME INFORMATION I GOT FROM THE ONIC COLLECTION AT THE LIBRARY, JUST TO SHOW THAT IT WAS THE FOUR SEASONS HOLIDAY PARK. THIS IS THE OLD WHITE PAGES FROM 1983. NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE FOUR SEASONS HOTEL. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OKAY. THESE ARE SOME PICTURES OF THE PARK TODAY. THIS IS THE GATES. THERE'S THE OLD SIGN THAT'S THERE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS THE MANAGEMENT OFFICE COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY, UH, FACILITY. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S BOARDED UP. THIS IS THE POOL, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY SERVES AS A MOSQUITO POND. MOST OF THE YEAR WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY RAIN, SO IT'S PRETTY DRY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THESE ARE THE TWO MANUFACTURED HOMES THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE. UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THIS JUST SOME MORE DOCUMENTATION ABOUT THE FOUR SEASONS. NEXT SLIDE. AND THIS IS SOME INFORMATION ON THREE PILLARS. COMMUNITIES. THEY HAVE, UH, 50 MANUFACTURED HOME PARKS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THEY CERTAINLY HAVE THE MEANS TO BRING THIS SITE UP TO CODE, TO, TO REPAVE THE, THE DRIVEWAYS AND TO CONNECT IT TO CITY WATER AND THE SEWER. NEXT SLIDE. AND THAT'S KIND OF THEIR PLAN. THIS PLAN SHOWS 210 UNITS. THEY DON'T WANNA DO THAT MANY THAT JUST KIND OF SUBMITTED A PLAN KIND OF, WELL, WHAT IT COULD BE THEY ANTICIPATE WILL PROBABLY BE, BE MORE LIKE 200 UNITS. NEXT SLIDE. AND THESE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF SOME OF THEIR OTHER COMMUNITIES. SO AS I STATED, UM, WE'RE KIND OF FORCED TO ASK FOR THE URBAN MIXED USE. WE FEEL THIS IS A GOOD USE FOR THE SITE. IT IT IS A EXISTING MOBILE HOME OR MANUFACTURED HOME PARK. THERE ARE PEOPLE LIVING THERE TODAY. UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING IT UP TO CODE. WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THE WAY THE PLAN IS DRAFTED, WE COULD BUILD APARTMENTS ON THIS SITE. WE CAN BUILD SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THIS SITE, BUT WE CAN'T HAVE THE MANUFACTURED HOMES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE. I THINK THAT WAS A MISTAKE WHEN THE PLAN WAS CREATED. AS I'M SURE YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THESE PLANS DO NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ON THE GROUND. UM, AND ANOTHER THING I'D LIKE TO MENTION IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THE GOAL OF THE BROOKS AREA PLAN IS TO HAVE JOB CREATORS, THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE WORKERS. AND MANUFACTURED HOMES ARE AN AFFORDABLE COMPONENT FOR THE CITY. A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD APARTMENT RENTS OR WANNA HAVE SOME EQUITY IN A MANUFACTURED HOME. THIS WILL BE ONE OF THOSE SITES WHERE YOU BRING YOUR MANUFACTURED HOME TO THE SITE AND JUST LEASE THE LOT FROM US. AND THEY'RE GOING TO ADD SOME AMENITIES, YOU KNOW, PICKLEBALL, COURTS, BASKETBALL COURTS, GET THE POOL GOING AND HAVE A NEW COMMUNITY CENTER. SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. PATRICK, I'LL START ON MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ, NO QUESTIONS. [01:35:01] NO QUESTIONS. NO QUESTIONS. NO QUESTIONS, NO QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE DENIAL RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL? RIGHT. UH, THIS WAS A, A NEWLY ADOPTED PLAN. AND SO BECAUSE THE BUSINESS INNOVATION MIXED USE WAS A PUBLIC PROCESS AND, UM, VETTED THROUGH THE COMMUNITY, WE ARE TRYING TO UPHILL UPHOLD THAT PLAN. AND SO THAT WOULD BE FOR BUSINESS MIXED USE INNOVATION FOR EMPLOYMENT GENERATING USES. AND THAT WAS, UH, THE BASIS OF THE DENIAL. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT WAS MY QUESTION TOO. SO NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. SAME, MR. SIEGEL? WELL, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT THIS IS KIND OF TOUGH BECAUSE, UM, WE DO WANNA UPHOLD COMMUNITIES DECISION MAKING PROCESSES AND THE PLANS THAT THEY COME UP WITH TOGETHER. ON THE OTHER HAND, UM, I SEE MF 33, MF 40 WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS, UH, CURRENT LAND USE DESIGNATION. AND CONSIDERING THAT WE DO HAVE A, UH, AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING SHORTAGE IN OUR CITY, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE MORE, BIT MORE COMPLICATED. NO QUESTION FOR ME. ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR MR. CHRISTENSEN. DID YOU SAY IT'S GONNA BE A LEASE SPACES OR THEY'RE GONNA BUY THE LOT AND THEN PUT THEIR HOME ON LEASE? LEASE SPACES? SO THE, THE, THE THREE PILLARS COMMUNITIES, THEY WILL OWN THE PROPERTY AND THEY WILL SIGN INDIVIDUAL LEASES WITH OWNERS OF MANUFACTURED HOMES TO BRING ONTO THE SITE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, UH, UNDER THE CURRENT, UH, LAND USE, I THINK COMMISSIONER SIEGEL, IT'S, IT'S NOT PERMITTED. IT WOULD HAVE TO SWITCH. I I THINK THE HIGHEST INDEN INTENSITY USE WOULD BE MF 25. AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY MOBILE HOME PROVISIONS FOR THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BUSINESS INNOVATIVE MIXED USE. CORRECT. OKAY. UH, I AGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONER'S, UH, COMMENTS. I MEAN, IT'S DIFFICULT, ESPECIALLY SINCE THIS IS A, A BRAND NEW, UH, UH, MASTER PLAN. UM, BUT I ALSO CAN SEE THE BENEFITS OF, OF DEVELOPING, UH, THE AREA AND PROVIDING HOUSING FOR, UM, UH, FOR, FOR THE COMMUNITY. BUT I'LL, UM, ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I THINK I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM BASED ON THE FACT THAT, UH, EXACTLY WHAT COMMISSIONER SIEGEL JUST BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE, UH, LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE AREA AND ALSO THE FACT THAT IT IS ALREADY A MOBILE HOME PARK AND IT'S ACTUALLY STILL FUNCTIONING AS THAT. AND I THINK THAT, UH, THEY'RE NOT CHANGING THE USE, SO IT SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE. SECOND. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY, UH, COMMISSIONER PECK. SECOND BY VICE CHAIR CRE HAYNES, CAN WE PLEASE TAKE THE VOTE? COMMISSIONER GARCIA, I SUPPORT THE MOTION. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YES. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAN MILAN? YES. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE. UH, COMMISSIONER PECK? YES. COMMISSIONER CREO HAYNES? YES. CHAIR PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 15, WE HAVE STAFF PRESENTATION PLEASE. ANN BETA'S PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER 15 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE NEAR NORTHWEST COMMUNITY PLAN FOR URBAN LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL LOCATED AT 2 3 2 SHERWOOD DRIVE. THERE WERE 20 TOTAL NOTICES CENTS TWO IN FAVOR AND ZERO OPPOSED WITH NO RESPONSE FROM LOS ANGELES HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE PROPOSED LAND USE AMENDMENT FROM URBAN LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL IS REQUESTED TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO C TWO C D, UH, COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR FACILITY. THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL CLASSIFICATION WILL INTRODUCE A MORE INTENSE LAND USE THAT IS INCONSISTENT AND INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE CURRENT URBAN LOAD DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ALONG SHERWOOD DRIVE. ALTHOUGH THERE ARE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL LAND USES AND COMMERCIAL ZONING DESIGNATIONS ON SHERWOOD DRIVE, ONE PROPERTY TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED AS A CULTURAL CENTER AND ANOTHER TO THE FAR EAST AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS A LAND LANDSCAPING COMPANY WITH BOTH HAVING THE APPEARANCE OF A RESIDENCE. THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION WOULD ALLOW FOR FURTHER COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT INTO A PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL BLOCK. THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL. AND THE APPLICANT FOR THIS CASE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT AT, [01:40:09] JUST STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE. JOSE CORRADO. OKAY. SO ON SHERWOOD AT ONE POINT IT WAS A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL TO THE PROPERTY TO THE RIGHT OF 2 3 2 IS 2 4 0, WHICH IS A HVAC COMPANY. UH, TO THE RIGHT OF THAT PROPERTY IS TWO CHURCHES. SO WE HAVE, WE SEE LARGE GATHERINGS OF CHURCHES COME IN THROUGHOUT THE WEEK. THAT STREET IS A BUSY STREET, AS SHE STATED ON THE LEFT OF THE PROPERTY. WE HAVE BARE LANDSCAPING AT THE END. EVERYTHING DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THIS PROPERTY IS A SEA TOO. EVERYTHING FROM IN FRONT OF THIS PROPERTY, IF YOU LOOK OUT THE WINDOWS, ANYTHING WE CAN SEE THE INTERSTATE, UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF ACCESS TO THE HIGHWAY. UH, SO THIS IS PART OF, WE WANNA REZONE IT INTO A C TWO PROPERTY. I HAVE TALKED TO THE NEIGHBORS TO THE LEFT, WHICH IS STILL RESIDENTIAL. THE NEIGHBOR TO THE BACK, UH, THEY HAVE NOT FULLY AGREED YET, BUT THEY WANT ME TO CONSTRUCT PRIVACY FENCE, UH, FENCES IN THE BACK. AS LONG AS I DO THAT, THEY WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE APPROVAL. UH, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THEY WANT ME TO BUILD BEFORE THEY'LL SAY YES FOR ME. SO, WHICH I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT THING IS TO DO, I'VE, I GAVE THEM NOTICE OF A NO, OF A CERTIFIED LETTER SAYING THAT I WILL STATE AND DO ANYTHING THEY ASK ME TO DO TO PROTECT THEIR PROPERTY WITH PRIVACY FENCE. UM, ONE ASKED FOR A CYLINDER BLOCK WALL ON THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY. UH, THAT PROPERTY IS STILL OVER 200 FEET, UM, FROM THE BACK PROPERTY LINE ALL THE WAY TO THEIR HOME. IT'S, THESE LOTS ARE 1.1 ACRE LOTS. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF DISTANCE. THE ONLY ONE TO THE LEFT IS THE ONLY ONE THAT WOULD BE THE CLOSEST. UM, AND I'M WILLING TO, UH, BUILD A PRIVACY FENCE. WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ASKING FOR ME TO DO, I'M WILLING TO DO IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT. UH, COMMISSIONER DKI, WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR YOUR, UH, APPLICATION HERE? SO THE PLAN RIGHT NOW IS GONNA BE A SMALL FIVE UNIT OFFICE RENTAL. UM, AND THEN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY WILL BE FOR FUTURE BUILD, UH, FOR MORE OFFICE SPACE, UH, MORE CONSTRUCTION BACK THERE. SO, UM, RIGHT NOW THE LAND, IT'S GONNA BE MAINLY USED FOR A FIVE, A SMALL FIVE UNIT RENTAL. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A PARKING LOT, UH, IN THE BACK PARKING LOT IN THE FRONT. UM, AND THEN THERE'S GONNA BE STILL HALF OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE WANT TO CONSTRUCT LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD, OFF OFFICES, LIKE, UH, JUST SMALL OFFICE, LIKE FOR NOTARIES. UH, NOTHING HEAVY TRAFFIC. IT'S JUST GONNA BE MORE FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S GONNA BE MORE OF A SMALL OFFICE THAT JUST NEEDS A, THAT AN OFFICE SPACE. UM, AND MAYBE SOMEWHERE IN THE BACK SINCE THE LAND, THERE'S SO MUCH LAND THAT WHERE THEY CAN PARK, UH, SOME VEHICLES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, UM, FOR THEIR BUSINESS, NOT JUST PARKING VEHICLES. AND QUESTION TO THE STAFF, WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO EXPAND BUILDINGS TO THE BACK OF THE LOT? THEY HAVE A SITE PLAN THAT THEY SUBMITTED AS PART OF THEIR ZONING REQUEST WHERE THEY'RE, UH, THEY HAVE THAT BUILDING PROPOSED ON THEIR SITE PLAN. IT IS FOR THE STORAGE OF THE CONTRACTOR MATERIALS FOR THE, FOR THE CONTRACTOR COMPANY THAT THEY HAVE. AND SO THAT IS WHY THE REQUEST IS MOVING FORWARD AS A C TWO CD FOR A CONSTRUCTION TRADES CONTRACTOR. UM, AND THEN OF COURSE THEY WOULD NEED THE PLAN AMENDMENT TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL IN ORDER TO UTILIZE THE C TWO. OKAY. THANK YOU. NO FURTHER QUESTION. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL ? NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MILAM, UH, WHAT'S ACROSS THE STREET? ARE THERE BUSINESSES ACROSS THE STREET? YES, MA'AM. THERE'S ACTUALLY A WORLDWIDE PEST CONTROL TO THE RIGHT OF IT. RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT IS ANOTHER FACILITY THAT LOOKS LIKE HOSTS. UM, SEVERAL, MANY OFFICES IN, ON THE LEFT OF THAT IS, UH, IN BELGIUM ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. UH, TWO STORY, UH, FACILITY. UM, AND THEN WE HAVE A, A HOTEL FURTHER DOWN IN FRONT OF US. UM, AND THEN, SO THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT C TWO BUSINESSES RIGHT THERE IN THE SAME AREA. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. I GUESS I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED WHEN YOU ANSWERED, UH, COMMISSIONER DESI'S QUESTION. YOU SAID IT'S GONNA BE OFFICES, BUT THEN WHAT STAFF JUST REPRESENTED? AND WHAT I READ HERE IS THERE'S GONNA BE A, IT'S FOR A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR FACILITY. SO, SO THERE IS GONNA BE SMALL OFFICE, BUT, UH, YES, SIR. SO THE CONSTRUCTIVE, UM, WOULD BE FOR, THERE'S A FLOORING COMPANY THAT WANTS TO RENT PART OF HALF THE BUILDING PRETTY MUCH. THE OTHER ONES WOULD BE JUST SMALL OFFICES AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME LAND TO BE ABLE TO, UH, PUT THEIR, THEIR STUFF IN THE BACK. SO, UM, SO BASICALLY THAT CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL STORAGE IN THE BACK YES, SIR. THINGS LIKE THAT? YES, SIR. AND THEN, LIKE, IF THERE'S A, A SMALL ELECTRICAL COMPANY, THEY WON'T START, THEY WOULD JUST PUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, STORE THEIR A, A CONTAINER OR SOMETHING [01:45:01] IN THE BACK FACILITY, UM, FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO STORE THEIR MATERIAL. RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. VICE CHAIR CARILLO HAY. NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. MR. HIN. NO QUESTIONS MR. GARCIA? NO QUESTIONS, MR. SURE. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. IS THIS THE LEAST INTENSE, UH, USE THAT THEY CAN PURSUE? I KNOW THEY'RE GOING FOR A C TWO CD, BUT IS THERE, IS THERE ANYTHING LESS THAN THIS? NO, SIR. UH, THEY HAVE TO GO WITH THAT BECAUSE OF THE MATERIALS THAT THEY'RE STORING ARE ALL RELATED TO HVAC OR ELECTRICAL AND THE LIKE. AND, AND ARE THEY, ARE THEY PROPOSING HIGH STORAGE? I'M SORRY, YOU DIDN'T, ARE THEY DOING ANY KIND OF HIGH STORAGE OR ANY ANYTHING FIRE HAZARD? I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT. HE WOULD HAVE TO TELL YOU. LIKE STACKING STUFF UP HIGH. NO, SIR. NOT AT ALL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. NONE. QUESTION, UH, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT YOU'D SPOKE TO YOUR NEIGHBORS ABOUT, UH, ACCOMMODATING SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS WITH YES. SIRION A PRIVACY FENCE. YES, SIR. WOULD THERE ALSO BE A, IS THAT IN THE BACK OR IS THAT IN, SO THE, THE BACK FROM THE STREET WHERE THEY WOULDN'T SEE THE CONSTRUCTION? SO THE BACK PROPERTY, THE VERY BACK THAT'S FACING THE BACK OF THE, WHICH WOULD BE BACK HERE IN THE VERY BOTTOM, UM, THAT'S THE ONE THAT WOULD BE RIGHT HERE. SO THIS, THIS ONE IS THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS PROPOSING ME TO BUILD HIM A, UM, A 6, 6 6 TO EIGHT FOOT CYLINDER BLOCK WALL, UH, TO PROTECT, YOU KNOW, TO HELP HIM WITH THE SOUND OF, BECAUSE HE'S COMPLAINING MORE THAT HE CAN HEAR THE FREEWAY. NOW THAT THAT CUSTOMER, SO HE WANTS ME TO CONSTRUCT A CYLINDER BLOCK WALL, WHICH IS PERFECTLY FINE. THE ONE DIRECTLY ON THIS SIDE HERE, UM, IF WE LOOK AT HIS PROPERTY, THERE'S NO TREES. THIS PROPERTY HERE IS FULLY, UH, NOT ASPHALT, BUT ASPHALT MILLINGS. SO, UH, HE WANTS ME TO BUILD A, THIS SIX TO EIGHT FEET, WHATEVER THE CITY CODE ALLOWS ME TO BUILD A PRIVACY FENCE FROM THE CORNER OF HIS PROPERTY HOUSE TO THE END, FROM HERE TO THE FRONT, WE WOULD DO SOME NICE BLACK IRON GATE THAT WOULD MAKE THE PROPERTY LOOK BETTER. UM, AND THEN FROM THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY IS KIND OF STILL IN DISCUSSION WITH HIM. IF HE'S OKAY WITH CHAIN LINK FENCE, GREAT. IF HE WOULD PREFER ME TO DO THE WHOLE PROPERTY LINE WITH PICKET FENCE, EIGHT FOOT, I'M PERFECTLY FINE, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW. BUT AT THIS MOMENT, ALL THIS BACK HERE OF THIS PROPERTY, PRETTY MUCH HERE IS NO, UH, THERE'S NO TREES. HE'S CLEARED OUT THE LAND. HE'S PURCHASED THAT PROPERTY PROBABLY SIX MONTHS AGO TOO. AND, UH, WE DIDN'T HEAR FROM LOS ANGELES HEIGHTS, HAVE YOU ANY DISCUSSIONS? I REACHED OUT TO THEM SEVERAL TIMES AND NOBODY RESPONDED BACK TO ME. SO I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THAT POINT. RIGHT. I MEAN, IT'S CLEAR THAT THE, THE COMPOSITION OF THE STREET IS EITHER HAS BEEN OR IS CHANGING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, I SEE A LOT OF, UM, C TWO, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY DEALING WITH THE ZONING ON THIS, UH, BOARD. BUT, UM, THERE ARE SOME OTHER, UM, THE OF THE, UM, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, UH, NEAR, UH, YOUR, YOUR PROPERTY. UM, SO I DON'T KNOW. I, I, I'M GONNA KIND OF WAIT TO SEE WHAT, UH, THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS PROPOSE FOR, UH, A MOTION. BUT I, I, I'M NOT REALLY AGAINST IT. SO, SO THE PROPERTY TO THE RIGHT, WHICH IS 2 4 0, I'M ACTUALLY THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY ALSO. OH, OKAY. SO I OWN, UH, BELUGA AIR, THE HVAC COMPANY. UH, SO I AM THE OWNER OF THAT COMPANY, AND WE HAVE THE PROPERTY ON THE RIGHT. UM, AND WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY ON THE LEFT LOOKING FROM THE STREET. SO YES, FROM THE STREET. OKAY. IT WOULD BE ACTUALLY LITERALLY IN THE DIAGRAM, IT WOULD BE THE LEFT SIDE, WHICH IS ZONED OH TWO. CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. AND JUST FOR CLARITY, UM, THE BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, IF IT IS REZONED TO C TWO CD, HE WILL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE THE SOLID SCREEN, UH, FENCE THAT CAN BE UP TO EIGHT FEET. OKAY. WELL, I WILL, UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. I'LL MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE ITEM. SO THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST. SECOND. SO, UH, MOTION BY VICE CHAIR GRU HAYNES AND ZUKI. SECOND. COMMISSIONER GARCIA. YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL. YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YES. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER BISTE. AYE. COMMISSIONER PECK? YES. COMMISSIONER CREO HAYNES? YES. CHAIR, PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. OKAY. I'M GONNA SKIP AHEAD TO THE, UH, MINUTES. UM, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA TAKE A RECESS. SO, UH, THANK YOU, SIR. SORRY. UH, WAS THERE ANY COMMENTS OR CLARIFICATIONS FROM THE MINUTES FROM [01:50:01] THE LAST MEETING? HEARING, HEARING NONE? I'LL TAKE A VOICE. VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. ALL RIGHT. IT'S 3 52. WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A ABOUT A 15 MINUTE RECESS, SO WE'LL RECONVENE AROUND 4, 4 10. ALL RIGHT. IT'S, UH, FOUR 11. WE'RE GONNA, UH, RESTART [Other Items  ] THE MEETING. WE'LL JUST ENCOURAGE, UH, COMMISSIONER PECK TO COME BACK OVER HERE AND JOIN US. BRING YOUR KIDS. YEAH, YOU WANT THAT? UH, SO, UH, NEXT WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING, UH, WORKING, UH, ON ITEM 17, WHICH ARE THE U D C AMENDMENTS. UH, LOGAN SPARROW'S GOING TO DO A SHORT PRESENTATION ABOUT THE U D C PROCESS. LOGAN. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN NAME IS LOGAN SPARROW, UH, POLICY ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. I HAVE A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION FOR YOU BEFORE WE JUMP INTO INDIVIDUAL ITEMS. AGAIN, THE, UH, UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE IS TYPICALLY UPDATED EVERY FIVE YEARS. THAT PROCESS WAS DELAYED AS A RESULT OF THE C OVID 19 PANDEMIC. UM, WE, UM, UPDATE OUR CODE FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. WE WANT TO ENHANCE ADMINISTRATIVE EFFICIENCY. WE, UH, USE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE OUR LOCAL DEVELOPMENT CODES FOR STATE AND FEDERAL, UH, LAWS THAT HAVE CHANGED. UM, WE WANT TO USE THIS AS A MECHANISM TO ELIMINATE UNNECESSARY DEVELOPMENT COSTS. AND I THINK THAT YOU WILL FIND THAT THE AMENDMENTS BEFORE YOU TODAY, UH, FIT INTO THOSE CATEGORIES. AMENDMENTS THEMSELVES CAN BE INITIATED BY CITY DEPARTMENTS, CITY STAFF, UH, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, EXTERNAL PARTIES, INCLUDING INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS, AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL. WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT COMMITTED TO A ROBUST PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS. UH, WHEN WE OPENED UP THE APPLICATION WINDOW TO RECEIVE AMENDMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, UH, WE NOT ONLY USED, UH, OUR ABILITY TO SEND OUT E-BLASTS POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA. UH, WE USED THE CITY'S ESSAY SPEAK UP PROGRAM. WE ALSO DELIVERED POSTERS, POSTCARDS, AND FLYERS TO THE, UH, CITY LIBRARIES, SENIOR CENTERS, AS WELL AS THE COUNCIL OFFICES. WE ALSO DISTRIBUTED THOSE PHYSICAL COPIES TO CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO PROVIDE RESIDENTS AND OPPORTUNITY FOR INPUT AS THEY WERE ENGAGING WITH CITIZENS AS WELL. UH, WE HAVE HOSTED, UH, TO DATE FIVE, UH, D S D ACADEMY SESSIONS. UH, THESE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO COME IN, UH, ON A SATURDAY MORNING, IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO MAKE A MEETING MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. LEARN ABOUT HOW TO ENGAGE IN THIS PROCESS, WHAT THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE IS, HOW DO YOU GET INVOLVED, UH, AND YOU SEE THE DATES ON YOUR SCREEN THAT WE HAVE HELD THOSE. IN ADDITION TO THOSE D S D ACADEMIES, UH, WE HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND WE CONTINUE TO HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS. UH, WHILE THE APPLICATION WINDOW WAS OPEN, WE HAD FOUR GEOGRAPHICALLY LOCATOR DISPERSED, UH, MEETINGS AROUND THE CITY. UH, WE HAVE HAD, UH, ANOTHER MEETING. ACTUALLY JUST LAST NIGHT, WE HAD OUR, UH, MEETING ON THE NORTH SIDE. TOMORROW EVENING, WE WILL HAVE OUR MEETING ON THE EAST SIDE. THIS ROUND OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS IS GEARED TOWARDS INFORMING THE PUBLIC OF HOW FAR WE'VE COME IN THIS PROCESS, WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF TAC AND OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS HAVE BEEN SO FAR. UH, IN ADDITION TO THOSE MEETINGS, WE HAVE HELD VARIOUS INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH, UH, INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS, RESIDENTS, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS. FOR A QUICK TIMELINE CHECK AGAIN, WE BEGAN ACCEPTING AMENDMENTS OCTOBER 1ST, 2021. THE DEADLINE TO SUBMIT THOSE AMENDMENTS WAS FEBRUARY 1ST. BY THE END OF THE DAY, ON FEBRUARY 1ST, WE HAD 234 PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. UH, BEGINNING IN FEBRUARY, THE PLANNING COMMISSION TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE LOOKED AT THOSE 43 EXTERNAL AMENDMENTS. UH, ALL 43 WERE FORWARDED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR SPONSORSHIP, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION ULTIMATELY SPONSORED 40 OF THOSE 43 AMENDMENTS TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE PROCESS. UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE THEN HELD MEETINGS FROM FEBRUARY THROUGH MAY 9TH TO REVIEW EACH OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL AMENDMENTS, TAKE A LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE, MAKE EDITS, CHANGES WHERE THEY FELT IT WAS NEEDED, AND MAKE A FINAL RECOMMENDATION, WHICH HAS BEEN FORWARDED TO YOU AND THE OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, HISTORIC AND DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION AND THE ZONING COMMISSION HAVE ALREADY CONSIDERED AMENDMENTS, UH, UNDER THEIR PURVIEW. THEY HAVE MADE RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH HAVE BEEN FORWARDED TO YOU, THE PLANNING COMMISSION. TODAY, UH, AFTER TODAY, [01:55:01] WE WILL GO TO THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE OF CITY COUNCIL, AND WE ANTICIPATE THESE AMENDMENTS BEING BEFORE THE FULL CITY COUNCIL BODY IN, UH, IN OCTOBER. WE WILL THEN UTILIZE THE MONTHS OF NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER TO CONDUCT TRAINING ON THE PROPOSED, UH, OR THE APPROVED AMENDMENTS AT THAT POINT IN TIME, UH, GIVING THE COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADJUST TO ALL OF THESE CHANGES WITH ENFORCEMENT SET TO BEGIN JANUARY 1ST, 2023. I AM NOT, I PROMISE, GOING TO GO LINE BY LINE ON THIS AND THE NEXT SLIDE. BUT AGAIN, THIS SHOWS YOU THE NUMBER OF PARTIES BOTH INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY THAT SUBMITTED PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, UH, AS PART OF, OF THIS 2021 U D C AMENDMENT PROCESS. AGAIN, OF THE 234 AMENDMENTS WE RECEIVED, 43 WERE RECEIVED FROM EXTERNAL PARTIES, AND 191 CAME FROM CITY DEPARTMENTS. YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKDOWN OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, AGAIN, WHETHER IT IS INTERNAL OR EXTERNAL. BY AND LARGE, THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE GAVE A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION IF YOU PROPOSED AN AMENDMENT. STAFF, UH, WITHDREW 23 AMENDMENTS, EXTERNAL PARTIES WITHDREW A COMBINED 12. THAT KITS US TO THE 196 ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, LOGAN. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S A, A VERY TEDIOUS PROCESS. UH, I JUST WANTED TO THANK STAFF AND ALL THE D S D, BUT ALSO THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THAT PRESENTED TO US ALL THEIR HARD WORK. UH, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS CRITICAL. UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE WAS NUMEROUS OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE INVOLVED. UM, THE WORK THAT THE P TAC DID, WHICH I KNOW WAS CHAIRED BY COMMISSIONER PECK, UH, VICE CHAIR HANES, I THINK COMMISSIONER GARCIA DE SUKI ON THAT COMMISSION AS WELL, UM, DID A LOT OF WORK AND IS COMPRISED OF VERY TECHNICAL PEOPLE. I MEAN, WE'RE DEALING WITH SOME VERY TECHNICAL ISSUES WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENT CODE, UH, BUT THEY'RE ALSO, UH, THAT THAT BODY'S ALSO REPRESENTED BY MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. SO, AND ALL THOSE MEETINGS WERE OPEN WITH PUBLIC DIALOGUE. SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE THAT AS A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKGROUND AS TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY IN THE PROCESS AND JUST KIND OF GIVE APPRECIATION TO ALL THE PEOPLE INVOLVED. AND THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO BE HERE AND ENGAGED. SO, UH, WE WILL START TAKING THE, UH, U D C AMENDMENTS THAT ARE CONSIDERED INDIVIDUALLY ONE BY ONE. AND I'LL JUST, UH, AGAIN, IF YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AND DID NOT SPEAK, UH, IF YOU'LL JUST INDICATE, UH, WHEN YOU'RE READY TO COME FORWARD TO SPEAK ON THAT SPECIFIC, UH, AMENDMENT. BUT WE'LL START, UH, WITH ONE ONE. ALRIGHT. UH, THE FIRST, UH, COUPLE ITEMS ON TODAY'S INDIVIDUAL AGENDA ARE ON THE INDIVIDUAL AGENDA BECAUSE THEY RECEIVED A RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THE FIRST AMENDMENT, AMENDMENT ONE DASH ONE, IS RELATED TO THE CREATION OF A QUALIFIED TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, UH, ZONING USE. AGAIN, THIS ITEM WAS RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL BY THE PC TCC. UH, THE APPLICANT HAS INFORMED US HE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE THE MEETING TODAY. OKAY. IS THERE ANYBODY WHO SIGNED UP THAT WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MR. CHAIR. MOTION TO DENY AMENDMENT ONE. ONE SECOND. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BUSTANI. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ORIAN, PLEASE TAKE THE VOTE. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? NO. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YES. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM? NO. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE. AYE. COUNCILMAN COURAGE? YES. COUN. UM, COMMISSIONER PECK? YES. COMMISSIONER CILLO HAYNES? YES. CHAIR, PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR DENIAL. OKAY. 14 NINE IS WITHDRAWN, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. AMENDMENT 14 DASH NINE RELATED TO PARKLAND DEDICATION WAS WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT BEFORE THE START OF THE MEETING. AMENDMENT 29 DASH ONE IS RELATED TO, UH, A, A NOTIFICATION REGISTRY OR A COMMUNICATION REGISTRY CREATION. THIS ITEM WAS RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE. UH, THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT, YES. YOU CAN JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU HAVE, UH, A MINUTE AND A HALF. MY NAME IS MARLENE HAWKINS. I LIVE AT 6 0 1 EAST CARSON IN GOVERNMENT HILL, AND I'M, UH, PRESIDENT [02:00:01] OF THE GOVERNMENT HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION. WE HAVE 2,500 HOUSEHOLDS IN OUR, IN OUR ORGANIZATION. THE, THE THREE AMENDMENTS 16, 8, 16, 10, AND 29 1 ARE ALL ABOUT THE REGISTRY. AND THEY ALL COMPLIMENT EACH OTHER. THEY ALL SAY THAT WE NEED TO ADD ORGANIZATIONS TO IT, AND SO THEY COMPLIMENT EACH OTHER, BUT THEY EACH HAVE SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO ADD TO IT. ALSO 29 1 AND ADDS A NAME TO IT BECAUSE, UH, ADDING ORGANIZATIONS TO IT, IT SHOULDN'T BE CALLED NEIGHBORHOOD, A NEIGHBORHOOD REGISTRY. SO I NAMED IT COMMUNICATIONS REGISTRY. AND I HOPE OVER TIME THAT IT WILL TRULY BECOME A, A COMMUNICATION TOOL FOR THE CITY, LIKE OTHER CITIES USE IT TO GET LOTS OF INFORMATION, NOT JUST THE REQUIRED INFORMATION, BUT LOTS OF INFORMATION OUT TO THE CITIZENS OF SAN ANTONIO. THE SECOND PART OF IT IS AFTER THE WORD BOUNDARIES, AS YOU READ IT, IT SAYS, AS THE BOUNDARIES ARE AS CHOSEN BY THE ASSOCIATION OR ORGANIZATION. THAT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE FOR OVER 20 YEARS, OVER 20 YEARS, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, THROUGH THE USE OF AN INTERNAL DEPARTMENT POLICY, HAS BEEN BLOCKING ORGANIZATIONS TO BE ON THE REGISTRY. THE CODE IS FINE. IT LISTS THE THINGS THAT, AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ANYONE NEIGHBORHOOD OR ORGANIZATION HAS TO PROVIDE TO BE ON THE REGISTRY. BUT, UH, THE INTERNAL CODE, THE INTERNAL, EXCUSE ME, THE INTERNAL DEPARTMENT POLICY FROM, WE DON'T KNOW, 1989 IS HOW FAR BACK I'VE GONE, SAYS ONLY ONE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PER NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE VOICE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS AGAINST THE CO THE DEMOCRATIC SMALL D PRINCIPLE OF EQUAL ACCESS FOR ALL. I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET ON THE REGISTRY SINCE 2007 AND THREE OR FOUR TIMES AFTER THAT AND BEEN DENIED BASED ON AN INTERNAL POLICY. THE, THE INTERNAL POLICY CANNOT OVERRIDE THE LAW. THE LAW IS CLEAR WHO CAN GET ON THE POLICY. UM, THAT THE, EXCUSE ME. THE IDEA OF EQUAL ACCESS IS A REAL STRONG PRINCIPLE, RIGHT? FOR DEMO IN THE DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY, LIKE WE ARE, WE HAVE A D A RAMPS, WE HAVE BILINGUAL, UH, SCHOOL, WE HAVE, UH, BRAILLE BOOKS IN THE LIBRARY. WE HAVE, UH, CREDIT AND, AND BUYING PROPERTY. ALL OF THOSE HAVE EQUAL ACCESS LAWS TO THEM. AND THEY'RE CALLING, THEY'RE CALLED, UH, OPPORTUNITIES. EQUAL ACCESS OPPORTUNITY LAWS. THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. I, I DON'T THINK THEY DELIBERATELY, I THINK THEY'RE JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT EQUAL ACCESS TO TO OF ALL THE CITIZENS IS IMPORTANT. AND IT'S NOT GONNA CREATE A, A FIRESTORM OR ANYTHING. BUT WE NEED TO BE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR PEOPLE HAVE EQUAL ACCESS. LET ME READ YOU SOMETHING. THE IDEAL, THIS, OUR EQUAL ACCESS ACTUALLY COMES FROM OUR DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, DOESN'T IT? THE IDEAL OF EQUAL ACCESS IS FUNDAMENTAL TO AMERICAN DI DEMOCRACY, THE 18TH CENTURY NOTION THAT ALL MEN AND ARE CREATED EQUAL BEFORE GOD AND BEFORE LAW SET UP THE POWERFUL EXPECTATION THAT EVERY CITIZEN DESERVES THE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO INFLUENCE THE COURSE OF DEMOCRACY AND THE BENEFITS, AND TO BENEFIT FROM THE FRUITS OF, OF A GOOD SOCIETY. CONSEQUENTLY, ACCESS TO CHANNELS OF COMMUNICATION AND SOURCES OF INFORMATION THAT IS MADE AVAILABLE ON EVEN TERMS TO ALL A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD IS DERIVED FROM THE CONCEPT OF FAIRNESS AS UNIFORM DISTRIBUTION WHEN EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THE SAME ACCESS AND CAN AVAIL THEMSELVES IF THEY SO CHOOSE. PLEASE VOTE YES ON THIS AND LET'S, LET'S MAKE THE REGISTRY AVAILABLE [02:05:01] TO ALL CITIZENS, TO ALL NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS ARE MADE UP OF CITIZENS. SO PLEASE VOTE YES ON THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. HAWKINS. UH, WE'LL START WITH SOME COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS. UH, COUNCILMAN COURAGE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR. LET ME ASK A FEW QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF. FIRST OF ALL, UM, WHO, WHO'S ON THE REGISTRY TODAY? SO RIGHT NOW, AND I THINK MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT WOULD BE HELPFUL. SO WE HAD, WE HAD A COUPLE DIFFERENT AMENDMENTS RELATED TO THE REGISTRATION OF COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS OR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND WHAT THOSE ORGANIZATIONS OR ASSOCIATIONS RECEIVE. UH, THIS AMENDMENT, 29 DASH ONE WOULD STEP AWAY FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REGISTRY, WHICH THE CITY HAS HAD FOR MANY YEARS IN FAVOR OF A GENERAL COMMUNICATION REGISTRY. THAT VERSION WAS NOT SUPPORTED BY THE TAC. THE VERSIONS THAT WERE SUPPORTED BY THE TAC, WHICH WERE PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION AMENDMENTS 16 DASH EIGHT AND 16 DASH 10 WOULD LEAVE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REGISTRY ALONE AS IT IS TODAY. THE CITY WOULD CONTINUE TO RE HAVE THOSE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS REGISTERED. THEY WOULD CONTINUE TO RECEIVE NOTICE FOR BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT CASES, ZONING CASES, PLAN AMENDMENTS. BUT IN ADDITION TO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REGISTRY, IT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE REGISTRATION OF COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, UH, THAT WOULD ALLOW OVERLAPPING BOUNDARIES ON TOP OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS FOR FOLKS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN REGISTERING THAT ORGANIZATION TO RECEIVE NOTICE AS WELL. UH, THAT VERSION WAS ULTIMATELY SUPPORTED BY THE TAC, I THINK, AND OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE FOLKS HERE WHO SAT ON THE TAC, BUT THE DISCUSSION WAS, IF MORE PEOPLE WANT MORE NOTICE, REGISTER YOUR ORGANIZATION, PROVIDE A BOUNDARY, PROVIDE A CONTACT, AND STAFF WILL PUT THAT ADDITIONAL LETTER IN THE MAIL TO THAT GROUP. IN ADDITION TO THE REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHAT, WHAT WAS OR IS THE PURPOSE OF THE CURRENT REGISTRY? SO THE CURRENT REGISTRY IS, UH, COMPILED BY CITY STAFF FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING THOSE REQUIRED NOTICES. SO WHEN WE HAVE A ZONING CASE, A VARIANCE, A PLAN AMENDMENT, MUCH LIKE WE'VE HAD ON TODAY'S AGENDA, WE CAN LOOK UP THE ORGANIZATION, WE KNOW THEIR BOUNDARY, AND WE CAN SAY, THIS IS THE PERSON WHO'S CURRENTLY SERVING AS THE PRESIDENT OF THAT ASSOCIATION. MAKE SURE THEY GET A NOTICE OF AN UPCOMING ITEM BEFORE THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, ZONING COMMISSION, OTHER BOARDS, ET CETERA. SO THE REQUIREMENTS FOR NOTIFICATION, SO THE REQUIREMENTS FOR NOTIFICATION TODAY ARE PEOPLE WHO LIVE WITHIN 200 FEET OF A, A PROJECTED PROJECT? CORRECT. AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, HOW FAR DO THEY NEED TO BE? SO IT'S THE SAME 200 FEET. IT'S ALL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS REGISTERED WITH THE CITY WITHIN 200 FEET. OKAY. AMENDMENTS 16 DASH EIGHT AND 16 DASH 10 WOULD EXTEND THAT TO COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS REGISTERED WITHIN 200 FEET OF THAT AS WELL. OKAY. UH, WHO USES THE REGISTRY? THE REGISTRY IS PRIMARILY USED BY CITY STAFF. SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHO WE LEGALLY TO COMPLY WITH STATE LAW, HAVE TO PROVIDE A NOTICE OF AN UPCOMING HEARING TO RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ON THE REGISTRY BESIDES NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS CURRENTLY? N NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO. THERE, I I WILL SAY THAT THERE ARE SOME ORGANIZATION, SOME REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WITH VERY LITTLE MEMBERSHIP. UH, THERE ARE SOME REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WITH NO MEMBERSHIP, UH, BUT WE CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THAT LETTER. AND, AND ARE THERE SOME PEOPLE WHO WERE, WERE, FOR EXAMPLE, PRESIDENT OF ASSOCIATION? THAT MAY NOT BE ANYMORE, BUT THEY STILL MAY BE ON THAT LIST? SO THE LIST IS UPDATED MONTHLY BY, UH, COMMUNICATIONS, UH, AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT DEPARTMENT. UH, THEY REACH OUT TO THE PERSONS ON THAT LIST TO SAY, ARE YOU STILL THE PRESIDENT OF THIS ORGANIZATION? AND IF NOT, WHO DO WE NEED TO UPDATE IT TO? THAT IS UPDATED MONTHLY. RIGHT. IS THERE ANY INFORMATION THAT GOES OUT THROUGH THE REGISTRY OF A CONFIDENTIAL NATURE? NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. SO IT'S ALL JUST GENERALLY PUBLIC INFORMATION? CORRECT. YEAH, IT'S CERTAINLY PUBLIC. WHEN APPLICANTS COME TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION, WE'LL PROVIDE THEM THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO SAY, HEY, WE REALLY ADVISE YOU REACH OUT TO THESE FOLKS AHEAD OF TIME, UH, AND, AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE PROCESS. RIGHT. ARE THERE SOME NEIGHBORHOODS THAT, UH, GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT MAY OCCUR WHERE WE HAVE NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS REGISTERED THAT YES, THERE, THERE ARE PARTS OF TOWN THAT HAVE NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. AND SO IN THOSE PARTS, THE ONLY ONES WHO HERE [02:10:01] ARE ANYONE WHO LIVES WITHIN 200 FEET OWNS PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET. YEP. IS IT, IS IT AN ASSUMPTION THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE GOING TO INFORM EVERYBODY IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT THESE PROJECTS, WHICH IS WHY WE LET THEM KNOW? I, I, THAT IS THE PREMISE. THAT IS THE GENERAL UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE INFORMING THE ASSOCIATION FOR THEM TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE WORD OUT TO THEIR MEMBERSHIP. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SOME ORGANIZATIONS OR ASSOCIATIONS THAT ARE DO THAT VERY EFFECTIVELY AND, AND SOME ASSOCIATIONS THAT REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY PARTICIPATION. RIGHT. UM, AND SO BASICALLY THERE, THERE MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE WORD GETTING OUT TO BEYOND THOSE WHO LIVE WITHIN 200 FEET IN SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT MAY BE DEVELOPED. RIGHT. IT IT IS VERY POSSIBLE, YES. RIGHT. AND AND HOW IS THAT NOTIFICATION SENT OUT TO PEOPLE IN A REGISTRY BY MAIL? THE, UH, STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT THAT LETTER BE MAILED TO THAT NE REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. OKAY. IS THE PROPOSAL IN THE OTHER TWO ISSUES THAT ARE COMING UP THAT ORGANIZATIONS THAT JOIN THE COMMUNICATIONS LIST OR INDIVIDUALS WHO JOIN THAT COMMUNICATION LIST, WILL THEY BE GETTING MAILED INFORMATION THAT IS AS WELL? IT WOULD, IT WOULD REPLICATE THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS TO ANY COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION THAT REGISTERS WITH THE CITY. WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU GET 10,000 PEOPLE THAT WANNA REGISTER TO THAT LIST? UH, OR 50,000 PEOPLE? SO WE, WE WOULD SEND JUST LIKE AS IS REQUIRED FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, YOU PROVIDE A SINGULAR POINT OF CONTACT. SO THERE COULD BE 50,000 PEOPLE IN THAT COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION, BUT THAT ONE PERSON WOULD RECEIVE THE LETTER AND THEN BE RESPONSIBLE FOR FORWARDING IT TO THE OTHER 49,000 ET CETERA PEOPLE. MM-HMM. , WHAT IS THE PERCEPTION OF ONLY HAVING CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS RECOGNIZED? UH, AND WHAT IS THE CONSIDERATION ABOUT SAYING THERE MAY BE MULTIPLE GROUPS THAT LIVE IN A VERY LARGE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAVE DIFFERENT INTERESTS THAT WANT TO BE PART OF THAT REGISTRATION PROCESS. WHY ISN'T THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ALLOWED? SO, SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REGISTRY. TO YOUR POINT, I THINK THAT THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS THAT SAY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T FEEL THAT GROUP REPRESENTS ME. I WOULD LIKE TO REGISTER AN ORGANIZATION. I WOULD LIKE THE SAME BENEFIT OF RECEIVING THAT NOTICE. AGAIN, NOTHING IN 16 DASH EIGHT OR 16 DASH 10 DOES AWAY WITH THE REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. IF WE CAME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS SAID, WHAT WAS THE STATEMENT OF THE REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WE WOULD STILL SAY THAT THE REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WAS IN FAVOR OR OPPOSED. BUT IT GIVES MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE PEOPLE TO RECEIVE NOTICE. IT ALSO WOULD ALLOW FOR PEOPLE TO RECEIVE NOTICE IN OTHER PARTS OF TOWN. UH, I MENTIONED WE HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING LAST NIGHT. ONE OF THE EXAMPLES I USED WAS, WE COULD HAVE SOMEONE THAT LIVED MANY YEARS NEAR WOODLAWN LAKE PARK AND MAYBE THEY MOVED TO THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF TOWN, BUT WOODLAWN LAKE PARK IS STILL MEANINGFUL TO THEM AND THEY'RE STILL INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND THE PARK. THEY AND AN ORGANIZATION OF 20 OTHER PEOPLE COULD FORM A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION AND SAY, I TOO WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON DEVELOPMENT-WISE IN PROXIMITY TO THAT PARK. SO IT ENHANCES AND EXPANDS THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO RECEIVE THOSE NOTICES. IS IT ACCURATE TO PRESUME THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DEVELOP PROPERTY AND THEY COME TO D S D AND THEY ASK, UH, WHAT ARE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS OR WHAT GROUPS WE SHOULD CONTACT RIGHT NOW, ALL THEY GET IS THAT LIST OF NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS THAT ARE CLOSE TO THAT PROJECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. UH, IS THERE ANY WAY TO KNOW THAT EVERYBODY ELSE WHO MAY BE ON THE COMMUNITY LIST WILL, WILL BE ABLE TO BE CONTACTED BY THESE PEOPLE? IN OTHER WORDS MM-HMM. , WOULD THERE BE AS, AS MUCH EMPHASIS GIVEN TO THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM ABOUT THESE OTHER COMMUNITIES MM-HMM. NOT ON THIS LIST, BUT THAT HAVE A DESIRE TO BE INFORMED ABOUT YOUR PROJECTED DEVELOPMENT, UH, WILL, WILL THAT ACCESS BE EASILY PRESENTED TO THOSE DEVELOPERS? IT, IT CAN, IT WILL CERTAINLY BE EASILY PRESENTED. THE PLAN IS TO HAVE THOSE SHOWN ON THE CITY'S GIS INTERACTIVE MAP ALONGSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. I I DO WANT TO HAVE ONE POINT OF DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO ONE POINT. ONE OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT WAS JUST APPROVED ON CONSENT WAS TO, UH, REQUIRE THAT IF YOU ARE SUBMITTING A CHANGE OF ZONING APPLICATION THAT IS PART OF THAT APPLICATION, YOU [02:15:01] ARE REQUIRED TO SHOW PROOF THAT YOU MET WITH THE REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR PROOF THAT YOU ATTEMPTED TO MEET WITH THE REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. WE WOULD NOT ALSO REQUIRE THAT YOU MET WITH COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS IN ADDITION. SO THAT'S AN AN A ADD-ON RIGHT NOW THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING I I I AM NOT PROPOSING. SO THAT, I MEAN, THAT IS, THAT HAS, HAS BEEN PROPOSED THAT THAT WAS APPROVED EARLIER TODAY ON THE CONSENT AGENDA OF REQUIRING THAT THEY REACH OUT TO THE REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ONLY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I WASN'T HERE FOR THAT EARLIER VOTE, SO I DIDN'T CATCH THAT. YEP, NO WORRIES. OKAY. YOU'VE ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MM-HMM. FOR CLARIFICATION, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION? SO, RIGHT, RIGHT NOW THE CITY HAS A REGISTRY OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THERE. TO BE HONEST, THERE ARE SOME NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS REGISTERED WITH THE CITY THAT CALL THEMSELVES A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION. SO PART OF IT'S IN A NAME. UH, BUT THE EFFECT OF THE REGISTRY IS WE WOULD CONTINUE, SHOULD 16 DASH EIGHT AND 16 DASH 10 BE APPROVED, WE WOULD CONTINUE TO REGISTER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AS WE HAVE FOR DECADES, AND MAIL NOTICE TO THOSE GROUPS. IF THESE TWO OTHER AMENDMENTS PASS, WE WOULD ALSO PUT A NOTICE IN THE MAIL TO A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION. BOTH ORGANIZATIONS WOULD RECEIVE THE SAME LETTER FROM THE CITY. OKAY. THANK YOU. CURRENTLY, ARE THERE ANY, UM, DUPLICATION OF BOUNDARIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REGISTRY, OR ARE ALL OF THE BOUNDARIES DISCREET? NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. AND IF THERE ARE ANY, THERE'S CERTAINLY NOT MANY. SO, UM, ADDING A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION, IT'S NOT EVEN A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION REGISTRY. SEPARATE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REGISTRY, IT WOULD BE, SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE, IF WE GO WITH 1610 MM-HMM. AND 16 EIGHT, IT WOULD BE, UM, SORT OF AUGMENTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REGISTRY. I, I THINK THAT THAT IS THE BELIEF OF SOME, AGAIN, THE, THE IDEA IS THAT WE ARE, THE, THE CITY'S POLICY IS THAT WE DO NOT ALLOW OVERLAPPING NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOUNDARIES. I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT. SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, MAYBE IT HAPPENED, BUT WE ARE LEAVING NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REGISTRY AS IS, AND THEN CREATING A SEPARATE LIST OF REGISTERED COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS SHOULD THESE AMENDMENTS PASS. SO THAT WOULD ALLOW OVERLAPPING BOUNDARIES, THOSE, THOSE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS COULD OVERLAP REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. YES. THANK YOU. SO MY QUESTION, I, I JUST WANNA FOLLOW UP A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT COUNCILMAN COURAGE, UH, ASKED, AND I WAS NOT CLEAR. WOULD, WOULD DEVELOPERS THEN BE ASKED TO ALSO REACH OUT TO COMMUNITY? NO. NO. OKAY. NO. ONLY THE REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSIST, THEY WOULD ONLY REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBOR. OKAY. CORRECT. AND THAT'S IT FOR ME. I DO NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I DO NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I WILL, UM, I HAVE A QUICK POINT OF CLARIFICATION. THE, THE, CAN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT THE REQUIREMENTS TO REGISTER AS A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION VERSUS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION, IF THERE ARE ANY? YEAH, LET ME GO AHEAD AND PULL UP THE TEXT. IT ACTUALLY, THE, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO ADD, UH, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, LITERALLY, WE'RE TAKING THE EXISTING TITLE OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REGISTRY, YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN, AND ADDING AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS. SO THE REQUIREMENTS THEMSELVES ARE IDENTICAL. I HAD A QUESTION. IN OTHER WORDS, THIS IS GOING TO BE MORE INCLUSIVE, THIS WOULD ALLOW MORE PEOPLE TO RECEIVE THAT LETTER IN THE MAIL? YES. OKAY. MORE ORGANIZATIONS. OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION. SO, UM, THIS ITEM NUMBER 29 1, IF, IF IT GETS DENIED IT, IT HAS 16 EIGHT AND 1610 PRETTY MUCH SERVE THE SAME PURPOSE, DON'T THEY? I MEAN, THEY CAN EXIST INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER. SO THE, THE KEY DIFFERENCE IS AMENDMENT 29 DASH ONE IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE AMENDMENT SEEKS TO DO AWAY WITH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REGISTRY. OKAY. SO INSTEAD OF HAVING A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REGISTRY AND A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION REGISTRY, YOU HAVE A GENERAL NOTIFICATION REGISTRY. SO IF 29 1 IS, IS DENIED, BUT 16 EIGHT AND 1610 ARE APPROVED, THERE'S STILL CONGRUENCY WITH THE CODE. THERE'S, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE NOT, THEY DEPENDENT ON, THERE'S NO DEPENDENCY INTERDEPENDENCY WITH EACH OTHER. CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, IN FACT, 29 DASH ONE IS TO SOME DEGREE AT CROSS PURPOSES WITH 16 EIGHT AND 1610. YEAH. I THINK 29 DASH ONE CREATES [02:20:01] ONE REGISTRY FOR EVERYTHING. 16 8 16 10 IN COMBINATION WITH WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE CREATES TWO LISTS. OKAY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE REQUIREMENT FOR DEVELOPERS OR PEOPLE WHO ARE SEEKING CHANGES MM-HMM. TO EITHER COMMUNICATE OR ATTEMPT TO COMMUNICATE MM-HMM. WITH THEIR REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. RIGHT. THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT'S REQUIRED BY CORRECT REGULATION BY STATUTE. CORRECT. ALRIGHT. BUT I THINK AS ALL OF OUR BOARDS DO, WE ALWAYS ENCOURAGE, AS DOES STAFF MM-HMM. ALL OF OUR APPLICANTS TO REACH OUT TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE. RIGHT. AND SO 16 EIGHT AND 1610 WILL STILL FURTHER THAT PURPOSE. YES. YES. CERTAINLY IT WOULD NOT PRECLUDE AN APPLICANT FROM REACHING OUT TO A REGISTERED COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION, BUT 29 DASH ONE MIGHT HAVE SOME NEGATIVE IMPACT ON GETTING NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS TO BE THE SOLE SOURCE OF REQUIRED COMMUNICATION OR ATTEMPTED. IT WOULD CERTAINLY CREATE CONFUSION WITH THE AMENDMENT THAT PASSED EARLIER TODAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I I DO ALSO WANNA SAY THAT THE APPLICANT, UM, FOR, UH, THE OTHER AMENDMENT, 16 DASH EIGHT AND 16 DASH 10 ARE PRESENT AS WELL WHEN WE GET TO THOSE ITEMS. OKAY. SO, UH, JUST QUICKLY, I, I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTANI AND THERE WERE OTHER COMMISSIONERS KIND OF ENCAPSULATED WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO LIMIT, UH, COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION, UM, IN ANY WAY, BUT THIS MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT TOO BROAD. I THINK THAT THIS PROPOSED AS IT'S WRITTEN, UM, WHICH WOULD MAKE IT CHALLENGING FOR NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, SERVICES, UH, FOR D SS D ET CETERA. UM, IN TERMS OF JUST COMMUNICATION FROM THE CITY, RESIDENTS CAN SIGN UP FOR ALERTS LIKE CITY AS THEY SPEAK UP, OR THERE'S OTHER MECHANISMS TO GET OFFICIAL CITY INFORMATION. THAT, THAT IS CORRECT. WE HAVE ESSAY SPEAK UP. YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR CONSTANT CONTACT THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. UH, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF WAYS TO RECEIVE NOTICE OF UPCOMING CASES AND, AND ALL OF THE, UM, ZONING AND, UH, PLAN AMENDMENT CASES ARE POSTED TO THE PUBLIC. YEP. AND ANYBODY CAN COME HERE AND, UH, STATE THEIR OPINION OR SEND A VOICEMAIL OR EMAIL, SO THAT'S CORRECT. UM, AT THIS TIME I WILL, I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION. UM, I'D LIKE TO ASK ANOTHER QUESTION IF I CHAIR. GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN. UH, HOW, HOW DOES THE DEPARTMENT PLAN TO HANDLE CONFLICTS BETWEEN ORGANIZATIONS THAT BELIEVE THEY SHOULD BE THE REGISTERED ORGANIZATION FOR THEIR COMMUNITY? I, I THINK THAT THAT IS REALLY THE, THE BASIS OF WHY THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE FAVORED 16 DASH EIGHT AND 16 DASH 10. 'CAUSE IT DOES KEEP IN PLACE AN, AN ENTITY THAT IS RECOGNIZED AS THE REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITH THE CITY. AGAIN, I, I CAN FORESEE THE POSSIBILITY OF COMING BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, CITY COUNCIL ZONING COMMISSION IN SAYING THE SUCH AND SUCH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR. HOWEVER, THERE IS ALSO A REGISTERED COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION THAT IS OPPOSED, UH, THAT IS, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL. UH, WHAT ABOUT A REGISTERED ORGANIZATION THAT HAS CEASED TO EXIST OR EXISTS IN NAME ONLY, BUT THE MEMBERSHIP NO LONGER IS PART OF THAT. AND ANOTHER GROUP CAME FORWARD AND SAID, WE WANT TO BE THAT GROUP. HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU WORK WITH THE CONFLICT? 'CAUSE IT COULD BE ONE PERSON WHO STILL SAYS, I'M A MEMBER OF GROUP X MM-HMM. . BUT THAT'S JUST THAT ONE PERSON WHEN, UH, GROUP Y HAS STARTED AND HAS 150 PEOPLE SAY, THIS IS THE GROUP. NOW, HOW DO YOU HANDLE THAT KIND OF A CONFLICT? SO THE, THE CITY DEPARTMENT THAT HANDLES THIS REGISTRATION WOULD CONTINUE TO UPDATE THESE LISTS ON A MONTHLY BASIS. UM, THERE IS NO LANGUAGE IN THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION PROPOSAL THAT LIMITS IT TO ONE. AGAIN. SO I COULD HAVE A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION, UH, WHERE I AM INTERESTED IN RECEIVING NOTICE FOR DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY AROUND WOODLAWN LAKE PARK BECAUSE I AM A MEMBER OF A ENVIRONMENTAL ORGANIZATION. BUT AN ENTIRELY SEPARATE ORGANIZATION COULD ALSO REGISTER WITH THOSE OVERLAPPING BOUNDARIES TO RECEIVE NOTICE AS WELL. SO THERE'S NOTHING THAT WOULD LIMIT IT TO A SINGULAR REGISTERED COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION. YES. BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TELL A DEVELOPER, THIS IS THE LIST OF REGISTERED ORGANIZATIONS. CORRECT. AND IF YOU GIVE THEM A LIST OF AN ORGANIZATION THAT SIMPLY DOESN'T EXIST MM-HMM. , BUT THERE'S A COMPETITIVE ORGANIZATION THAT DOES EXIST THAT HAS SAID, WE BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE THE REGISTERED GROUP, THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT REQUIRING THE COMPANY TO DEAL WITH THE TRUE REPRESENTATIVES. YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING ON PAPER INSTEAD OF SOMETHING IN [02:25:01] REALITY. AND WE TALK ABOUT BOUNDARIES. MM-HMM. AS BEING PART OF THAT DISCUSSION. YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S NO MECHANISM TO DO THAT. WE'RE JUST GOING WITH WHAT'S BEEN EXISTING FOR YEARS. SO, SO RIGHT NOW WE, WE REGISTER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WITH THE CITY. WE WOULD CONTINUE TO DO THAT. WE WOULD CONTINUE TO REACH OUT TO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS TO UPDATE THE NEWEST PRESIDENT. WHAT'S THE BEST POINT OF CONTACT? WE WOULD DO THAT FOR COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL. WE WOULD ONLY REQUIRE, AS PART OF THAT ZONING APPLICATION THAT THE APPLICANT CONTACT THE REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THERE COULD BE A HUNDRED OTHER OVERLAPPING COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION. THAT'S AN EXTREME EXAMPLE. THEY ONLY HAVE TO CONTACT ONE ORGANIZATION AS PART OF THAT SUBMITTAL. I UNDERSTAND THAT. I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT HOW IF THERE'S AN ORGANIZATION THAT DOESN'T EXIST, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO ALLOW IT TO BE THE REPRESENTATIVE ORGANIZATION. OR IF IT EXISTS WITH ONE PERSON OR TWO PEOPLE, UH, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE'S ANY ACCOMMODATION TO HAVE A MORE PRACTICAL ORGANIZATION REGISTER AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD. SO RIGHT NOW, THE CITY'S POLICY IS THAT IF, LET'S TAKE YOUR EXAMPLE. WE HAVE A REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITH ONE PERSON IN IT, AND THEN ANOTHER GROUP FORMS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION WITH 150 MEMBERS. RIGHT NOW, CITY POLICY WOULD REQUIRE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO SIGN OFF ON THE OTHER ORGANIZATION BECOMING THE NEIGHBOR, THE REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. SO THAT MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT AS A POLICY ITEM AT A FUTURE MEETING OR A FUTURE AMENDMENT CYCLE OR SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THE U D C AMENDMENT PROCESS. BUT THAT IS THE CITY POLICY AS IT SITS TODAY. SO IS THAT A POLICY BY, UH, BY, UH, A PAST, UM, COUNSEL RESOLUTION OR ORDINANCE THAT HAS BEEN EMPLOYED BY D S D? SO, I, I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS DONE BY ORDINANCE OR IF IT WAS A DEPARTMENTAL POLICY AT THIS TIME, BUT IF IT'S A DEPARTMENTAL POLICY, THE DEPARTMENT CAN CHANGE IT. BUT OF COURSE, IF IT'S AN ORDINANCE, IT TAKES COUNSEL. YOU'RE SAYING COUNCIL, I, MIKE MIGHT KNOW. YEAH. LEMME JUMP IN. HEY, EVERYBODY. UH, MIKE SHANNON, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR. I'M GONNA ASK KATT HERNANDEZ, UH, WITH THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT COME UP AND, AND MAYBE SPEAK TO THIS A LITTLE BIT. KAT, DO YOU MIND, SHE HAS A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE ON THIS. AND KAT, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE CURRENT POLICY WHERE THE CITY MAY REMOVE OR ACCEPT, UH, REMOVAL OF THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHICH I THINK IS, UH, YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILMAN. THERE IS A POLICY WHERE THE CITY MAY DO IT, AND OR YOU CAN REQUEST, HEY, WE'VE DISSOLVED, SO WE WANNA BE OFF THE REGISTRY. BUT KATT, WHY DON'T YOU HELP US ANSWER SOME OF THESE FINE, FINE TUNED QUESTIONS. THANKS. ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, UM, IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, UH, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT CREATED A COMMUNITY BUILDING AND NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING PRO, UH, PROGRAM. AND IT INCLUDED ONE OF THOSE COMPONENTS, WHICH WAS FOUR COMPONENTS INCLUDED NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, REGISTRATION IN ORDER TO BUILD UP OUR ASSOCIATIONS. IT WAS PASSED BY COUNSEL THROUGH A RESOLUTION. AND THE POLICIES WERE DEVELOPED FROM THERE. AND ONE OF THOSE POLICIES WAS, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO PREVENT THE REDUNDANCY AND, UH, MULTIPLE ASSOCIATIONS, THEY CREATED THAT POLICY THAT YOU DON'T OVERLAP. AND IF YOU WANTED TO OVERLAP, YOU ASKED PERMISSION OF THE OTHER ONE IN ORDER TO OVERLAP. CURRENTLY, WE DO HAVE A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION LIST, UH, THAT WAS ALSO STARTED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION LISTING. UM, AND WE DO HAVE SOME OVERLAP. SO FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE EAST SIDE, WE HAVE THE EASTERN TRIANGLE IMPLEMENTATION GROUP. THAT INCLUDES A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. SO THEY'RE A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION. AND THEN YOU HAVE A REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UM, BACK IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. AND THEN, AND THEN SINCE THEN, IT WENT TO THE PLANNING, IT STAYED IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THEN IT MOVED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT, AND NOW IT'S WITH THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT DEPARTMENT. THE POLICY IS, IS THAT THEY, THEY REACH OUT TO THESE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS MONTHLY, PROVIDE US ANY UPDATES. TYPICALLY, IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE ANNUALLY THEY CHANGE PRESIDENTS. THAT'S HOW TYPICALLY ORGANIZATIONS DO THAT. SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE NEW CONTACT INFORMATION FOR APPLICANTS FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS. AND WE ACTUALLY UTILIZE THIS LIST THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SOLID WASTE USES IT, UH, FOR, UM, BULK TRASH SERVICE. UH, WE USE IT FOR THE BUDGET OPEN HOUSES. SO A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS USE THIS, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE CURRENT CONTACTS. SO WE REACH OUT TO THEM MONTHLY. IF WE DON'T HEAR FROM THEM, THEY SORT OF BECOME DEFUNCT, AND EVENTUALLY THEY DO DROP OFF THAT LIST IF THEY AREN'T BEING, UM, NOTIFIED. AND SO THAT'S WHEN WE HEAR BACK, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD AN ASSOCIATION THAT DROPPED OFF, AND THAT'S JUST BECAUSE THEY FORGOT TO, UH, MAIL, UH, THE DEPARTMENT TO SAY, OH, NO, NO, NO, WE'RE STILL ACTIVE. HERE IS THE ASSOCIATION. SO THEY'LL GET BACK ON AND WE'LL JUST REFER THEM TO THE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE ADDED BACK ON. BUT THERE IS A PROCESS TO REMOVE THEM IF THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIVE. BUT IF THEY ARE RESPONSIVE, THEN THEY STAY ON THE LIST. THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ALL OF THOSE RULES AND PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES WITH [02:30:01] THE BYLAWS, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THEY FOLLOW THOSE STEPS, BUT WE DON'T INTERVENE IN HOW THEY DO IT. SO HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. , I, I GUESS I FAILED TO, UH, ASK IF ANYBODY WHO DID NOT SPEAK EARLIER WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THAT SIGNED UP. NO. OKAY. I, YOU'VE ALREADY ALLOWED USED YOUR TIME HERE. ALRIGHT. UH, I'LL TAKE A MOTION. YES. I MOVE TO, UH, UM, DENY ITEM 29 DASH ONE SECOND. IT'S MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ORIAN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BUS. COMMISSIONER GARCIA. AGREED. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YES. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM. AYE. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. COUNCILMAN COURAGE? NO. COMMISSIONER PECK? YES. COMMISSIONER CILLO HAYNES? YES. CHAIR, PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR DENIAL. THANK YOU. SO, UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO, DO YOU WANT TO PRESENT AGAIN? WE NEED TO ACT 16, EIGHT AND 10 TOGETHER, OR, OR SO, UM, I RECOMMEND WE TAKE THEM SEPARATE. I KNOW I'VE ALREADY KIND OF INTRODUCED 16 DASH EIGHT AND 1610, BUT THE APPLICANTS FOR BOTH ARE PRESENT. OKAY. HELLO AGAIN. I'M CYNTHIA SPIELMAN. UM, AT THE HEART OF THE TIER ONE NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION IS THE IDEA THAT NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS SHOULD HAVE A MEANINGFUL PLACE IN THE DECISIONS MADE OR ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITIES THAT SPECIFICALLY AFFECT THEM. THIS AMENDMENT IS A REMINDER THAT LAND USE ZONING AND EVEN MANY CODES ARE THE RESULT OF A PUBLIC PROCESS, PARTICULARLY IF THEY'RE THE RESULT OF A NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, COMMUNITY SUB AREA PLAN, REGIONAL CENTER PLAN, OR THE N C D PROCESS. THE AMENDMENT IS AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT ALL INTERESTED STAKEHOLDERS SHOULD RECEIVE NOTIFICATION OF CHANGES. WE ORIGINALLY INCLUDED THE PLANNING TEAM MEMBERS TO RECEIVE NOTIFICATIONS, BUT IN WORKING WITH D S D, WE BEGAN TO UNDERSTAND THAT FOR VALID REASONS, IT WAS NOT PRACTICAL, IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE, TO TRACK DOWN PAST PLANNING TEAM MEMBERS. SO WE EDITED THAT GROUP FROM THE AMENDMENT WHILE STRESSING THAT CURRENT AND RECENT PLANNING TEAM MEMBERS SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE INFORMED OF CHANGES IN THE, IN THE PLANS THEY HELP CREATE. REMEMBER THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAILED NOTICES. NOTICES MAILED TO A PHYSICAL ADDRESS, WHICH IS THE REQUIREMENT BY THE STATE. THERE ARE WAYS FOR ANYONE TO SIGN UP FOR DIGITAL NOTIFICATIONS, ALTHOUGH IT WOULDN'T BE LIMITED TO A SPECIFIC AREA. COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT REQUEST MAILED NOTIFICATIONS MUST MEET THE STANDARD OF AN ORGANIZATION BY REGISTERING WITH THE CITY AND PROVIDE BOUNDARIES FOR THE MAILED NOTIFICATION. OTHERWISE, THE CITY WOULD BE MAILING NOTIFICATIONS FROM THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WHICH WOULD BE PROHIBITIVELY EXPENSIVE. THE RESULT OF THIS AMENDMENT IS THAT INTERESTED STAKEHOLDERS COULD RECEIVE MAILED NOTIFICATIONS ABOUT A SPECIFIC AREA. THE ORGANIZATIONS COULD BE CHURCHES, ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS, INTERESTED RESIDENTS, LARGER NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS LIKE NOD. THERE IS NO SPECIAL PRIVILEGES CONFERRED ON THOSE WHO RECEIVE NOTIFICATION. THE FEW TIMES I'VE SEEN RESIDENTS CREATE A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION, THEY'RE NOT USUALLY INTERESTED IN REPLACING THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE ISSUE IS NOT, IS ALWAYS ABOUT ZONING AND NOT FEELING REPRESENTED. NO ONE COMPLAINS ABOUT THE CHRISTMAS PARTY PINATA OR THE PAW PARADE LINEUP. PEOPLE WHO ARE DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY LAND USE AND ZONING CHANGES WANT TO FEEL HEARD. THE BEST WAY TO CREATE STRONG NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REPRESENTATION IS TO CREATE AND MAINTAIN A PROCESS THAT IS TRANSPARENT AND INCLUSIVE. AND THAT SHOWS RESIDENTS WHO FEEL UNREPRESENTED A WAY TO MAKE THEIR VOICES HEARD. AND IF I MAY, UM, JUST AS PART OF MY PRESENTATION, MAYBE ANSWER A QUESTION OF THE COUNCILMAN. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, BOARDS LIKE YOURS CAN DO WHEN NEIGHBORHOODS COME UP AND REPRESENT THEIR COMMUNITY AND SAY, WHAT IS YOUR PROCESS? HOW DID YOU, YOU KNOW, HOW DID YOU COME TO THAT DECISION? HOW ARE, HOW DO YOU REPRESENT? AND I THINK THAT WOULD HELP NEIGHBORHOODS ALSO, UM, LEARN TO CREATE, UM, UH, PROCESSES THAT ARE MORE INCLUSIVE AND FAIR AND REPRESENTATIONAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, THERE WERE A COUPLE, UH, FOLKS WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THESE ITEMS. LINDA MAPLE. LINDA, DID YOU? NO, SHE WAS GONNA GIVE HER TIME. OKAY. I COULDN'T SPEAK. AND RUBEN PENA, HE WAS [02:35:01] GONNA GIMME HIS TIME. OKAY. WAS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT DID NOT SPEAK EARLIER THAT WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT 16. EIGHT OR 16? 10. OKAY. THEN I'LL, UH, WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS. IS COMMISSIONER LOPEZ, NO QUESTIONS. NO QUESTIONS, NO QUESTIONS, NO QUESTIONS, NO QUESTIONS, NO QUESTIONS, NO QUESTIONS. NO QUESTIONS, NO QUESTIONS. NO. NOPE. NO QUESTIONS. OKAY. UH, FOR 16, EIGHT, DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER SIEGEL. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MILO. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI? NO. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. COUNCILMAN COURAGE? YES. COMMISSIONER PECK? YES. COMMISSIONER CREO HAYNES. YES. CHAIR, PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. UH, ITEM 16, 10. DO 16. 10. SO AMENDMENT 16, 10 AGAIN, RELATED TO ONE ITEM. YOU JUST, UH, RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR IT'S UPDATING THE NEIGHBORHOOD. REGISTRATION TO NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION REGISTRATION. OKAY. AGAIN, THE, UH, THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT AS WELL. OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS? I'LL TAKE A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE 1610. SECOND. MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER ORIEN. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SIEGEL. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI? NO. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE. AYE. COUNCILMAN COURAGE. AYE. COMMISSIONER PECK? YES. COMMISSIONER CREO HAYNES. YES. CHAIR, PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEMS 23 6 AMENDMENT 23 DASH SIX IS RELATED TO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AND WAS SUBMITTED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING AND SERVICES DEPARTMENT, UH, WHO ARE PRESENT TODAY WITH THE PRESENTATION FOR YOU. I TELL YOU WHAT, LET'S MOVE ON TO AMENDMENT 26 DASH ONE RELATED TO REQUIRED SPACING FOR GAS STATIONS FROM RESIDENTIAL USE OF SCHOOLS, DAYCARE CENTERS, AND SENIOR LIVING FACILITIES. UH, THIS AMENDMENT WAS SUBMITTED BY, UH, DIT COLE, A RESIDENT WHO IS HERE, UH, IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY. GOOD AFTERNOON. PLANNING COMMISSIONERS ZONING. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE, WHO IS NOT THERE RIGHT NOW. AND COUNCILMAN COURAGE. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE. MY NAME IS DIA COLE. I'M A DISTRICT TWO HOMEOWNER AND A DISTRICT 10 SMALL BUSINESS OWNER. AND I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK AS THE APPLICANT FOR AMENDMENT NUMBER 26 1. THIS COMMISSION IS WHERE THIS AMENDMENT BEGAN, BEGAN THE PROCESS ALONG WITH TWO OTHER GAS STATION AMENDMENTS. 26. ONE IS THE MERGED REVISED, IMPROVED PRODUCT OF ALL THREE. SIMPLY PUT, THIS AMENDMENT WILL REQUIRE NEW GAS STATIONS TO HAVE A DISTANCE BARRIER BETWEEN THEIR UNDERGROUND FUEL TANKS AND PUMPS TO EXISTING HOMES, SCHOOLS, MULTIFAMILY UNITS, DAYCARES, AND ASSISTED LIVING PROPERTIES. THE SET DISTANCE IS 200 FEET FOR A MEGA GAS STATION STORING OVER 50,000 GALLONS OF LIQUID FUEL UNDERGROUND AND 100 FEET FOR A SMALLER GAS STATION STORING LESS THAN 50,000 GALLONS THROUGHOUT EACH COMMISSION COMMITTEE AND BOARD HEARING IN THE U D C AMENDMENT PROCESS. WE LISTENED TO FEEDBACK, WORKED WITH D S D STAFF, RECEIVED CITY ATTORNEY INPUT, AND HAVE ARRIVED HERE TODAY TO ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL AND SUPPORT OF AMENDMENT 26 1. THIS AMENDMENT PROPOSES A BETTER WAY TO DEFINE INTENSITY OF GAS STATIONS FOR ALL NEIGHBORHOODS. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO BE A GOOD CUSTODIAN PROTECTING AND ENHANCING THE CHARACTER, QUALITY AND EQUITY OF DISTRICTS AND NEIGHBORHOODS ALL OVER THE CITY. THIS IS A REASONABLE AMENDMENT THAT HAS BEEN MODIFIED AND COMPROMISED ON THROUGHOUT THE, THE MULTI COMMITTEE PROCESS TO COME TO THIS SOLID FAIR AMENDMENT THANKING YOU IN ADVANCE FOR HELPING TO MAKE SAN [02:40:01] ANTONIO A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE AND BE WITH YOUR APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT 26 1. THANK YOU MS. COLE. UH, WERE THERE ANY, UH, CITIZENS TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL? NO. THEN I'LL START WITH, UH, I'LL JUST ASK, ARE THERE ANY COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS? EXCUSE ME. CHAIR MATTHEW MORTON WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. UH, I THINK WE HAVE A, A COPY OF OUR RECOMMENDATION OF 26 DASH ONE. THE, THE FIRST PARAGRAPH. WE ARE REPLACING THE WORD MAY WITH SHALL, MAKING SURE THAT THAT SPEC, UH, SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION IS INDEED REQUIRED. AND THEN SCROLL DOWN. AND THEN WE HAVE A, A, JUST FOR CLARITY THAT SHALL REQUIRE LANGUAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION IS AGAIN REQUIRED. THANK YOU. ARE YOU OKAY WITH THOSE CHANGES? A HUNDRED PERCENT. OKAY. YES. ALRIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MR. CHAIR? I MOVE TO APPROVE AMENDMENT 26 1 AS AMENDED AND PRESENTED TODAY. SECOND. SECOND. THANK YOU. UH, REQUEST, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER BUSTANI IS I'M GONNA GIVE IT TO COMMISSIONER GARCIA FOR THE SECOND. SORRY. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YES. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM. AYE. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTI. AYE. COUNCILMAN COURAGE? YES. COMMISSIONER PECK? YES. COMMISSIONER CREO HAYES? YES. CHAIR PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. AS AMENDMENT AND PRESENTED. UM, YEAH, WE, IF YOU'D LIKE, WE CAN GO BACK TO AMENDMENT, UH, 23 DASH SIX RELATED TO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING, UH, SERVICES DEPARTMENT. WHO'S HERE FOR THE PRESENTATION? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR PATIENCE. I THOUGHT, OH, I GOT TIME. I WAS WRONG. ALL RIGHT. UM, MY NAME IS SARAH WAMSLEY ESTRADA. I'M THE HOUSING POLICY ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT. I HAVE A QUICK DECK FOR YOU, UM, TO GO OVER THESE AMENDMENTS AND THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE AT ZONING COMMISSION. UM, AND THEN WE'LL TURN IT TO DISCUSSION. SO, UM, ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS OR ADUS, UM, HAVE BEEN A PART OF OUR HOUSING CONVERSATION LOCALLY FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. UM, BOTH THE HOUSING POLICY FRAMEWORK AND STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN OR SHIP. UM, OUR COUNCIL APPROVED DOCUMENTS, UM, THAT HIGHLIGHT ADUS AS ONE STRATEGY OF MANY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AN ADEQUATE HOUSING SUPPLY FOR SAN ANTONIANS. UM, AND I'LL NOTE THAT IN DECEMBER OF 2021, WE ALSO MODIFIED OUR CITY FEE WAIVER POLICY SO THAT ADUS THAT ARE AFFORDABLE ARE ALSO ELIGIBLE, UM, TO RECEIVE THOSE WAIVERS. SO THE REASON THAT THEY ARE PART OF OUR HOUSING CONVERSATION IS, UM, FOR A LOT OF REASONS THEY CAN SUPPORT AGING IN PLACE. THEY CAN GENERATE PASSIVE INCOME FOR HOMEOWNERS. THEY PROMOTE MULTI-GENERATIONAL LIVING AND THEY HELP MEET OUR HOUSING NEEDS, UM, AFFORDABLE AND OTHERWISE. I WILL SAY THAT, UM, OUR EXISTING CODE, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, UM, DOES PERMIT THE USE OF A D USE. IT'S A BUYRIGHT, UM, OPTION THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR HOMEOWNERS EVERYWHERE IN THE CITY, UM, PROVIDED IT'S NOT RESTRICTED BY THEIR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. SO, UM, ON THE NEXT SLIDE YOU'LL SEE WE WENT THROUGH A PROCESS TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, HOME HOMEOWNERS WERE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT, RIGHT? AND WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT IN THE CODE, UM, THERE WERE SOME MORE RESTRICTIVE AMENDMENTS, UM, AND WE THOUGHT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH A PROCESS TO COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS TO MAKE THE CODE A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO USE. SO, UM, IN 2019, UNDER THE MAYOR'S DIRECTION, THE, UH, DEPARTMENT ESTABLISHED AN AD HOC WORKING GROUP, UH, TO TAKE UP THIS ISSUE. AND THAT PROCESS WAS CO-CHAIRED BY THE FOLKS YOU SEE. UM, ON THE SCREEN HERE. JIM BAILEY CONTINUES TO CO-CHAIR THE GROUP, AND HE WAS HERE TO SUPPORT THOSE, UH, AMENDMENTS. EARLIER. UH, OVER THE COURSE OF THIS PROCESS, THERE WERE NINE PUBLIC MEETINGS HELD, UH, BETWEEN AUGUST, 2019 AND 2020, UM, TO DECIDE SORT OF WHAT, WHAT AMENDMENTS SHOULD BE MADE, WHAT, WHAT SHOULD THEY LOOK LIKE. AND SO THEY WERE COLLECTIVELY DRAFTED TOGETHER WITH THE SUPPORT, UM, OF MANY D S D STAFF AROUND THE TABLE TO HELP GUIDE THE CODE CONVERSATIONS. INFORMATION ABOUT THOSE MEETINGS IS STILL AVAILABLE ONLINE. UM, AND SINCE THEN THE COMMITTEE HAS BECOME A WORKING GROUP, OR EXCUSE ME, THE WORKING GROUP HAS BECOME A SUBCOMMITTEE OF OUR HOUSING COMMISSION AND THEY CONTINUE TO MEET PUBLICLY. AND THAT GROUP IS CHAIRED BY JIM BAILEY AND JORDAN GEY. SO, UM, [02:45:01] IN NOVEMBER, WHEN THAT WORKING GROUP BECAME A SUBCOMMITTEE OF HOUSING COMMISSION, UM, THEY VOTED TO APPROVE THE, UH, DRAFT A D U RELATED AMENDMENTS, UM, AS DEVELOPED BY THE PREVIOUS ITERATION OF THE WORKING GROUP. AND SO THAT MEANT SENDING THEM ON TO HOUSING COMMISSION AFTER DOING THEIR OWN, UH, BIG PUBLIC SURVEY THAT THEY DID, UH, FROM DECEMBER 20TH THROUGH JANUARY 14TH OF THIS YEAR. SO, UH, WE ACCEPTED COMMENTS FROM VIA PHONE AND EMAIL. WE DID AN ESSAY SPEAK UP SURVEY. WE HAD, UM, A PUBLIC MEETING TO TALK ABOUT THE AMENDMENTS. WE RECEIVED 118 RESPONSES, UM, BETWEEN 60 AND 80%, UM, SUPPORT FOR OUR A D U AMENDMENTS, WHICH WE WERE EXCITED ABOUT. AND SO WE SENT THOSE ON TO THE HOUSING COMMISSION WHO RECOMMENDED THEM UNANIMOUSLY AND SENT A LETTER, UM, TO YOU ALL SUPPORTING THAT AS WELL. NEXT SLIDE. SO THE AMENDMENTS I THINK YOU HAVE IN YOUR DOCUMENT, I WON'T, UM, BELABOR THEM TOO MUCH, BUT, UM, THESE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE COMMITTEE CAME UP WITH. SO THE FIRST ONE IS REMOVING THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE A D U HAS TO BE ATTACHED TO THE, UM, PRIMARY ELECTRICAL WATER AND SEWER OF THE SAME STRUCTURE. DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO CONNECT IT OR YOU, THAT YOU'RE FORCED NOT TO CONNECT IT. IT JUST GIVES YOU THE OPTION, UM, IF YOU DON'T WANT THEM CONNECTED. AND WE FOUND THAT MAYBE THAT WOULD BE MORE HELPFUL FOR FOLKS WHO WERE SETTING UP LONG-TERM RENTAL SCENARIOS AND DON'T WANT, UH, THEIR METER TO BE CONNECTED TO THEIR TENANTS. THE SECOND IS REMOVING OCCUPANCY LIMITATIONS. THE CODE, UH, THAT WAS WRITTEN FOR ADUS HAD, UH, OCCUPANCY LIMITS BEYOND WHAT IS ALREADY IN THE RESIDENTIAL CODE THAT GOVERNS THE PRIMARY STRUCTURES THAT WE CURRENTLY LIVE IN. WE OPTED TO, UH, RECOMMEND THOSE FOR REMOVAL ON THE BASIS THAT, UM, FOLKS WHO WANNA BUILD UNITS IN THEIR BACKYARD THAT COULD BE SMALLER BECAUSE MAYBE THEIR PARENT DOESN'T NEED A FULL KITCHEN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SHOULD HAVE THE OPTION TO DO SO. AND SIMILARLY, IF THEY WANTED TO BUILD A LARGER UNIT, UH, WE WANTED TO GIVE THEM THE OPTION TO HAVE MULTIPLE BEDROOMS IF THAT BEST SUITED THEIR NEED. THE NEXT AMENDMENT HAS TO DO WITH, UH, FLEXIBILITY IN SIZE. SO, UH, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS AT THE ZONING COMMISSION. THE AMENDMENT PROPOSED TO, UH, INCREASE THE MAXIMUM SIZE TO THE GREATER OF 800 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS THE CURRENT MAXIMUM OR 50% OF THE GROSS FLOOR AREA OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE ZONING COMMISSION, UM, PROPOSED ADDING A MAXIMUM TO THAT CAP. SO, UH, THAT'S ONLY UP TO 1600 SQUARE FEET. THE AMENDMENTS INCLUDE REDUCING THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT. UH, THERE ISN'T A, A RESTRICTION NOW, UM, WE WOULD PROPOSE REDUCING IT TO TWO STORIES CLARIFYING THE DEFINITION OF GROSS FLOOR AREA. AND, UH, THIS WAS ANOTHER ADDITION FROM, UM, ZONING COMMISSION FOLLOWING LOTS OF COMMUNITY FEEDBACK ABOUT, UM, CONCERN OVER USING ADUS FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS. UM, I WANNA BE CLEAR IN THE CODE, UH, THERE IS AN OWNER OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENT. UM, SO YOU CAN'T HAVE AN A D U ON YOUR PROPERTY UNLESS YOU ARE ALSO LIVING ON THAT PROPERTY. BUT, UM, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS CLEAR THAT YOU CANNOT USE THOSE AS TYPE TWO RENTALS, UM, AND THAT WE'RE A COMPLIANT WITH THE, UH, SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE. NEXT SLIDE. THANK YOU. SO, A COUPLE MORE FOR DETACHED ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. UM, PRIMARILY WE'RE FOCUSING ON REMOVING DESIGN REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE UNIT TO MATCH IDENTICALLY WITH THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE. THIS IS A REALLY BURDENSOME, UM, WAY OF TRYING TO DEVELOP AN A D U, ESPECIALLY FOR, UM, NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE LOWER INCOME AND FOLKS WHO ARE TRYING TO BUILD WOULD NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. WE ARE CLARIFYING THAT THE A D U, UM, CAN ONLY BE IN THE REAR YARD INSTEAD OF ALSO ON THE SIDE. AND THIS IS AN INTERESTING ONE. THE GROUP, UM, HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT PARKING, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF INCREASING THE SIZE, THE MAXIMUM SIZE OF THE A D U FROM 800 TO POTENTIALLY UP TO 1600. AND THE AGREEMENT WAS THAT WHILE THE CODE CURRENTLY DOESN'T REQUIRE A PARKING SPACE, UM, IF A HOMEOWNER WAS WANTING TO GO ABOVE THAT 800 SQUARE FEET, THAT THAT WOULD MEAN MAYBE IT'S MORE LIKELY THERE'S MULTIPLE BEDROOMS AND POTENTIALLY MORE DRIVERS AND THERE SHOULD BE A PARKING SPACE. SO THAT IS THE ORIGIN OF THAT AMENDMENT. AND THEN LASTLY, YOU HEARD SOME DISCUSSION AND COMMENTS ABOUT CHANGING THE SETBACKS. UM, IT WOULD SHIFT THE EXISTING SETBACK IN THE CODE FROM FIVE FEET TO THREE. AND THE PRIMARY MOTIVATION FOR THAT WOULD BE THAT, UH, EXISTING STRUCTURES THAT FOLKS ARE MAYBE USING FOR STORAGE, AND THOSE ARE THREE FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE COULD BE MORE EASILY CONVERTED INTO ADUS, UM, WITHOUT HAVING TO GET A ZONING VARIANCE. NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN AGAIN, THE OCCUPANCY LIMITATION, JUST MAKING SURE THAT APPLIES TO ATTACHED AS WELL. AND THEN LASTLY, THIS, UM, WAS AN ITEM THAT CAME OUT OF ZONING COMMISSION, [02:50:01] IS JUST CLARIFYING THAT THE OWNER OCCUPANCY LANGUAGE IN THE BEGINNING OF THE AMENDMENT, UM, AS IT READ, UH, IT SAID THAT THE EXISTENCE OF THE A D U WAS PREDICATED ON THE OWNER OCCUPANCY OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE. UM, AND THEN THE LANGUAGE GOES ON TO STATE THAT IF YOU ARE TO SELL THE PROPERTY AND THE BUYER DOES NOT INTEND TO USE THE A D U, THEN YOU NEED TO PROVIDE FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE A D U AS A CONDITION OF THE SALE THAT'S NON ENFORCEABLE. WE DON'T LIKE TO HAVE NOTEN ENFORCEABLE LANGUAGE IN OUR CODE. UM, AND WE WERE WORRIED THAT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY PREDATORY INVESTORS MIGHT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT CODE, UH, TO WINNOW DOWN PRICES. SO, UM, WE MOTIONED THAT THAT BE REMOVED. AND LASTLY, THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFYING LANGUAGE THAT CAME FROM THE ADUS. THEY STRUCK, OR, OR EXCUSE ME, CAME FROM THE ZONING COMMISSION ON THE ADUS, AND THAT WAS STRIKING THAT HIGHLIGHTED TEXT YOU SEE THERE. SO HOPEFULLY THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT CLARIFYING AS TO WHERE THESE AMENDMENTS CAME FROM. UM, I'LL THANK THE D S D TEAM FOR ALL OF THEIR HELP, UH, TO US AND THE COMMITTEE IN DRAFTING THESE. AND I'LL TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. UH, WAS THERE ANYBODY HERE, UH, SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST, UM, IS, ARE MR. PENA, UM, ? I'M YIELDING MY TIME. I'M SORRY, I'M YIELDING MY TIME. IS THAT APPROPRIATE? UH, SHE, SHE'S, YEAH. I THINK YOU ONLY USED A MINUTE AND A HALF, RIGHT? SO YEAH. SHE WAS THE APPLICANT, RIGHT? RIGHT. YES. AS YOU CAN SEE, I HAVE LOTS OF OPINIONS TO SHARE. , UH, CAN YOU PLEASE PUT THE, THE THING BACK ON WHERE IT SAYS, WHY WOULD YOU MIND DOING THAT? THE WHY? UM, SO I SERVED AS A TRI CHAIR ON THE REMOVING BARRIERS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING WORKING GROUP, AND I SERVED AS CHAIR OF THE A D U COMMITTEE. UM, AND SO I HAVE A LOT INVESTED IN AMENDMENT 23 6, BUT IT WAS ALWAYS THE PLAN THAT THESE AMENDMENTS WERE TO, TO GO THROUGH A MEANINGFUL PUBLIC PROCESS BEFORE BEING SUBMITTED. UM, MEANING MEANINGFUL PUBLIC INPUT EQUALS BETTER PUBLIC POLICY. UM, WHAT WE HAD IN WHAT WE HAD, WE HAD A PLAN TO DO OUTREACH. WE HAD A PRESENTATION, AND INSTEAD WE HAD A ESSAY SPEAK UP, UM, SURVEY AND A MEETING WITH 11 PEOPLE IN THE WORST TIME POSSIBLE. IF YOU REMEMBER DURING, UM, LATE DECEMBER, BESIDES THE HOLIDAYS, WE WERE ALSO DOING BOND AND SHIP, AND IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO GET TO ANY MEETINGS. LET ME BE CLEAR. I WANT TO MAKE A D MORE AFFORDABLE AND MORE EASILY ATTAINABLE BY HOMEOWNERS, PARTICULARLY HOMEOWNERS THAT NEED TO CREATE HOUSING FOR FAMILY ELDERS. UM, AND WE'RE WORKING VERY HARD IN MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD OF BEACON HILL TO, UM, TO CREATE MORE ADUS. BUT ENFORCING THE, THE OWNER OCCUPA, UH, OCCUPIED REQUIREMENT IS DIFFICULT. AND WHEN THERE'S ENFORCEMENT, IT EQUALS DISPLACEMENT AND EVICTION. WHY WOULD WE MAKE IT EASIER FOR INVESTMENTS INVESTORS TO BUY OR BUILD MORE? UM, IN MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD, THE MAJORITY OR, OR A LARGE PORTION OF HOUSES WITH ADUS ARE IN FACT OWNED BY INVESTMENT COMPANIES. I ASK THAT YOU AMEND, UM, THE AMENDMENT 23 6 TO KEEP IN PLACE. THE STIPULATION, THE ACCESSORY DWELLING SHALL BE CONNECTED TO THE CENTRAL ELECTRIC WATER AND SEWER SYSTEM OF THE PR PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE. PARTICULARLY AS, UM, UH, TODAY YOU SAW THAT IT WAS STRUCK OUT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY KIND OF, UM, UM, HELP TO KEEP INVESTORS FROM BUYING A DS AND USING THE METAL ILLEGALLY. WAS THAT MY TIME? YES. THANK YOU. UH, YOUR NA STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE. SURE. UH, MARIO. MARIO . FOR THE RECORD, I AM A RESIDENT, A RESIDENT OF MONTE VISTA. I LIVE ON 3 4 3 WEST HOLLYWOOD, OR ACTUALLY RIGHT NOW, I'M TEMPORARILY OUT OF IT OUT OF 3, 4, 3 OF HOLLYWOOD FOR, UM, A FIRE THAT, UH, I EXPERIENCED ABOUT A YEAR AGO. AND THAT'S SORT OF, IT'S RELEVANT TO WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY, UH, BUT I GUESS FIRST I AM, I'M A, I'M A CERTIFIED PLANNER. I, I WRITE, UH, PLANNING POLICY FOR A LIVING. I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN INVOLVED IN SOME OF THE OTHER U D C AMENDMENT, UM, EFFORTS THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN GOING THROUGH. NONE OF THE ONES YOU SEE HERE. SO I GET TO PUT ON MY CITIZEN HAT ON, UH, FOR A FEW MINUTES HERE AND JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, TELL YOU A STORY. WE'VE GOT A, WE HAVE A LITTLE CASITA BEHIND OUR HOUSE ON HOLLYWOOD. UH, WE HAD A LONG-TERM TENANT. IT WAS AN AGING, UM, A WOMAN. WE, YOU KNOW, A MUSIC TEACHER. SHE DEVELOPED A RELATIONSHIP LIVING THERE TWO YEARS WITH US. SHE GAVE OUR, YOU KNOW, SHE, SHE WAS A PART OF THE FAMILY, A PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, A REAL, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE EXACT KIND OF, OF, UM, OF RESIDENT WE WANT TO ADD TO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO THE, THESE POLICIES REALLY TARGET THAT KIND OF SITUATION. UM, AFTER THE FIRE, WE LOST, UH, POWER TO THE MAIN HOUSE. WE COULDN'T HOOK UP SERVICES INDEPENDENTLY TO THE CASITA. SO SHE WAS HOMELESS TOO, EVEN THOUGH THE CASITA WAS NOT DAMAGED [02:55:01] IN THE FIRE. UM, AND SO SHE HAD TO LIVE ELSEWHERE FOR THREE MONTHS. UM, YOU KNOW, WE COULDN'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THE, UM, UM, VARIANCES THAT WE HAD TO GO THROUGH TO GET THAT, GET THAT DONE. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE LOST A GOOD TENANT. UH, WE LOST SOMEBODY THAT NEEDED THIS AFFORDABLE PLACE TO LIVE IN THIS WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD AS SHE WAS AGING. UM, AND SO THE REASON I'M BRINGING THAT UP IS BECAUSE THERE ARE REAL SITUATIONS IN SAN ANTONIO, JUST LIKE THIS ONE, MANY OTHERS THAT HAVE LEGITIMATE REASONS FOR ADUS TO HAVE DISCONNECTED SERVICES, TO BE CERTAIN SIZES. WE NEED THIS FLEXIBILITY IS 90 SECONDS, SIR. AND I'LL JUST WRAP IT UP BY SAYING, LET'S NOT LET, UM, PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING, DOING THINGS ILLEGALLY FORM OUR CITY CODE AND POLICY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON. UM, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TODAY. MY NAME IS SIMA KYRA. UM, I LIVE AT 8 3 1 EAST MAGNOLIA AVENUE. UM, I AM, UM, A REGISTERED ARCHITECT AND HAVE BEEN DOING RESEARCH ON ADUS FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. ACTUALLY JUST FINISHED A REPORT ON DIFFERENT CASE STUDIES FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY AROUND HOW TO ENCOURAGE ADUS TO, UM, TO BE USED AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. UM, THESE TYPE OF CODE AMENDMENTS ARE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ACROSS THE COUNTRY BEING, UM, ADDRESSED TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE ALLOWED BY RIGHT. UM, THERE THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT, THAT ARE BEING ADDRESSED HERE THAT MAKE THEM MUCH EASIER, UM, FOR EVERYDAY HOMEOWNERS TO BUILD. UM, AND SO I'M ADVOCATING IN STRONG SUPPORT TO PASS, UM, THESE CODE AMENDMENTS. UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY, UM, THE OPPORTUNITY HERE IS FOR HOMEOWNERS TO BE ABLE TO INVEST IN THEIR PROPERTIES. YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO LITTLE OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, FOR A HOMEOWNER TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, YOU KNOW, ALL THE ADVANTAGES THAT A DEVELOPER GETS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF. SO WOULDN'T WE RATHER SEE A THOUSAND HOMEOWNERS BUILD ONE UNIT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THEIR BACKYARD THAN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPERS THAT WE SEE TODAY BUILDING A HUNDRED, 200, UM, UNIT BUILDINGS. SO IT'S A WAY TO DISPERSE, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR COMMUNITIES, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE, UM, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS TODAY, UM, AND REALLY ALLOW HOMEOWNERS TO, UM, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEIR BIGGEST ASSET, WHICH IS THE LAND THEY OWN THEIR PROPERTY, UM, FOR LONG-TERM STABILITY, UM, ADDING PASSIVE INCOME, HOUSING, THEIR, UM, FRIENDS AND FAMILY. UM, SO YEAH, I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU ALL, THAT'S YOUR TIME, UM, TO, TO TAKE THAT ALL INTO CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WAS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO HAD SIGNED UP TO SPEAK THAT HAD WISHES TO SPEAK? OKAY, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS. I'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER. WELL, COMMISSIONER BUSTANI. UM, I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE QUESTIONS, UM, BUT I, I DO HAVE A QUICK COMMENT. YOU KNOW, I PROPOSED AND MOVED TO SUPPORT A, A MORE LIBERAL VERSION OF THIS AMENDMENT AT ZONING, AND THAT FAILED. UH, AND SO WE DID ADD THE LIMITATIONS UP TO 1600 SQUARE FEET AS A HAPPY MEDIUM. AND, AND THAT WENT THROUGH, UH, PRETTY STRONGLY FROM ZONING. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IS A DECENT SOLUTION BECAUSE YOU CAN STILL GO TO BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT TO GET THAT IN SITUATIONS WHERE YOU NEED MORE SPACE FOR AN A D U. UM, AND SO I THINK THIS IS A HAPPY MEDIUM. I THINK THE METER ISSUE IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT DOES GIVE PEOPLE THE FLEXIBILITY, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF HIGH UTILITY PRICES, UH, THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY SEEING, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, UH, A TENANT IN AN A D U WITHOUT NECESSARILY SIGNING UP FOR, YOU KNOW, 50 HOUR HOT SHOWERS OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, . SO, UH, THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. YEAH, I WANTED TO ADD THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS, BUT I, WHAT I, WHAT DOES BOTHER ME A LITTLE BIT IS THE THREE FOOT SETBACK. UM, YOU ON THE B O A, WE SEE A LOT OF STRUCTURES WHO ARE ASKING FOR VARIANCES. AND, AND A LOT OF THESE AREAS YOU EITHER HAVE, UH, AN EXISTING STRUCTURE THAT YOU'RE RENOVATING, BUT MANY TIMES IT'S, IT'S TOO CLOSE TO ANOTHER STRUCTURE IN SOMEONE ELSE'S YARD, OR THERE COULD BE UTILITY POLES BACK THERE, ESPECIALLY IN THE INNER CITY WHEN IT WASN'T DEVELOPED. UM, AS WITH, WITH, WITH GENEROUS SPACE AS IT IS TODAY, UM, I, I REALLY AM NOT A FAN OF THAT. AND, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT AMENDED BACK TO FIVE FEET, OR AT LEAST REMOVE THE REAR PORTION FROM THAT PROVISION AND, YOU KNOW, GIVE IT TO 'EM ON THE SIDES. BUT YOU GOTTA HAVE FIVE FEET, YOU KNOW, IN THE REAR JUST FOR FIRE ACCESS, SAFETY, HOW DO YOU PAINT THE SIDE OF IT? YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THE RIGHT THING TO DO FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN ON THE B O A. SO I'M PUTTING THAT OUT THERE THAT I, THAT I CAN ONLY HAVE SUPPORT WITH THIS IF IT, IF THE, UH, REAR, UH, WORD REAR IS REMOVED FROM, UH, THAT ITEM [03:00:01] NUMBER THREE. OKAY. NO QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS. I, NO QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. NO QUESTIONS. I DUNNO IF YOU CAN, IF WE'RE WORKING OUR WAY DOWN, I CAN, I CAN WAIT MY TURN. I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW. YES, YES. COMMISSIONER MILAN, YOU WANT ME TO GO AHEAD NOW? NO. OKAY. SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION BEING AT THE END OF THE LINE. IT'S TOUGH. ANYWAY. UM, I, THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT WE NEED MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE CITY, AND SO I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF ADUS IN GENERAL. CONCEPTUALLY, ONE OF THE THINGS THOUGH, I, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT IS, UH, WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN, IN THIS PARTICULAR RECOMMENDATION THAT, UM, ENABLES, UH, PEOPLE TO CREATE ADUS FOR THE PURPOSE OF MAKING THEM SHORT-TERM RENTALS. AND I DON'T SEE HOW THAT ADDS TO OUR PROBLEM WITH AFFORDABILITY IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND I ALSO KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME STRUCTURE FOR HOW ADUS CAN BE DEVELOPED, AND A LOT OF THAT STRUCTURE I UNDERSTAND IS BASED ON FACES ON A CITY BLOCK. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF, OF, UM, SHORT TERM RENTALS ON THE FACE OF A CITY BLOCK. MM-HMM. . NOW, WHAT HAPPENS IF 10 PEOPLE ON A CITY BLOCK BUILD THESE SHORT TERMINALS IN THEIR BACKYARD? HOW DOES THAT THEN AFFECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN THAT COMMUNITY? HOW IS THAT BEING ADDRESSED THROUGH THIS? SURE. SO, UM, SARAH ALLUDED TO ONE OF THE AMENDMENTS MADE, UH, BEFORE THE ZONING COMMISSION WAS TO ADD A PROVISION CLEARLY STATING THAT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY'S SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE. THERE IS REALLY ONLY ONE WAY THAT AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT COULD EVER BE PERMITTED. A TYPE TWO S T R COULD EVER BE USED IN AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT. AND IT'S THE FOLLOWING SCENARIO. IF I OWNED A PROPERTY THAT HAD A DUPLEX ON IT, THE, THE, THE HAVING THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT REQUIRES THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY TO LIVE ON THE PROPERTY THAT REMAINS, THAT'S NOT PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED. IF THAT PROPERTY HAD A DUPLEX ON IT, AND I LIVED IN ONE OF THOSE UNITS, AND I RENTED THE OTHER UNIT AS A TYPE ONE, MEANING I LIVE ON THE PROPERTY AS A TYPE ONE SHORT-TERM RENTAL, I COULD THEN USE AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AS A TYPE TWO, PROVIDED I DID NOT EXCEED THE 12.5% LIMITATION ESTABLISHED BY THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU COULD USE A, AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AS A TYPE TWO SHORT-TERM RENTAL. BUT ISN'T THE WORDING ON 12 POINT A HALF PERCENT TALKING ABOUT THE FACE OF A STREET? RIGHT? SO IN OTHER WORDS, HOUSES THAT ARE RIGHT ON THE FACE, IF YOU START BUILDING 'EM IN THE BACK, THEY'RE NOT ON THE FACE. HOW DOES, SO YOU STILL HAVE THAT KIND OF CONTROL. THE BLOCK FACE DOES NOT DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY AND THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY. IT IS AN, IT LOOKS AT THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROPERTIES ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET, BETWEEN TWO INTERSECTING STREETS. SO AGAIN, TO HAVE AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT TO BEGIN WITH, I HAVE TO LIVE ON THE PROPERTY THEN TO USE IT AS A TYPE TWO SHORT-TERM RENTAL. THE ONLY WAY YOU COULD DO THAT IS IF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE IS ALREADY A DUPLEX AND YOU ARE DOING IT IN ADDITION TO A TYPE ONE. WHAT ABOUT IF THE OWNER SELLS THAT PROPERTY, WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT A D U IN THE BACK? SO THAT, THAT WAS ONE OF THE, OF THE AMENDMENTS MADE AT ZONING COMMISSION, WAS TO REMOVE THE LANGUAGE THAT SAYS THAT THE EXISTENCE OF THE SHORT TERM RENTAL IS PREDICATED ON THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, RESIDING ON SITE. THEY UPDATED THE LANGUAGE TO SAY THE OCCUPANCY OF THE SHORT OF THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IS REQUIRED, UH, FOR OCCUPANCY ON SITE. SO IF I, IF I OWNED A PROPERTY, I LIVED IN THE MAIN HOUSE, AND I RENTED AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IN THE BACKYARD TO A LONG-TERM TENANT, AND I SOLD THAT PROPERTY TO LAUREN, AND LAUREN LIVED IN NEW YORK, SHE DIDN'T LIVE ON THE PROPERTY, THEN SHE COULD NOT THEN TURN AROUND AND RENT OUT THAT SHORT TERM OR THAT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T LIVE ON THE PROPERTY. THAT'S HOW THE CODE WAS UPDATED AT THE ZONING COMMISSION. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. YES, SIR. COMMISSIONER DESU, OR DO YOU EVER MILAM? WELL, IT'S MORE OF A COMMENT, BUT, UM, RESPONDING ABOUT THE, UH, THE THREE FOOT THING IS, I, I THINK THAT THE COMMENT WAS MADE THAT, THAT WAS [03:05:01] MADE TO, UM, IN THE PRESENTATION TO ALLOW THAT, UH, GARAGES AND ET CETERA, STORAGE BUILDINGS THAT WERE ALREADY EXISTENT WOULD WORK. AND I, I THINK THAT, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S VERY REASONABLE. UM, SO I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. OKAY. I DO SUPPORT THAT. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. UM, I ALSO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT. I, UH, I STILL HAVE A CONCERN ON THE SIZE AND THE SETBACK FROM THE FENCE. THAT'S STILL THREE FEET SEEMS TO ME VERY SMALL. AND ALSO THE COMMENTS ON NUMBER TWO, WHICH STATES NO ACCESSORY DWELLING SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED, USED, OR OCCUPIED UNLESS A PERMIT IS ISSUED. UH, IF THE PERMIT IS ISSUED, IT DOESN'T MEAN THE STRUCTURE MEETS THE COMPLIANCE OR THE CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETIONS TO ALLOW TO BE USED, SHALL THAT BE? SO A CERTIFICATE NEED TO BE ISSUED RATHER THAN A PERMIT IS JUST ISSUED. SO NUMBER TWO IS LANGUAGE THAT EXISTS IN THE CODE TODAY AND IS NOT PROPOSED TO BE AMENDED. SO SOMEONE, IF THEY WISH TO ESTABLISH AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT ON THEIR PROPERTY, WHETHER IT'S A BRAND NEW CONSTRUCTION OR, OR CONVERTING AN EXISTING GARAGE, HAS TO COME TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, APPLY FOR A PERMIT. UH, THEY SUBMIT PLANS. WE REVIEW THE PLANS, MAKE SURE IT MEETS CERTAIN CODES. WE ISSUE THE PERMIT TO START CONSTRUCTION, AND WE'LL INSPECT IT ACCORDINGLY. A A QUICK NOTE ON THE SETBACK, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A, A COUPLE COMMENTS. NOTHING IN THE AMENDMENT BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION TODAY WAVES REDUCES, ELIMINATES THE, THE REQUIREMENT THAT IT MEET THE BUILDING CODE. IT IS AN ALLOWANCE FOR A THREE FOOT SETBACK. THERE ARE A LOT OF PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WOULD NOT CHOOSE TO HAVE A THREE FOOT SETBACK BECAUSE THE COST TO FIRE RATE A WALL IS GOING TO BE MORE EXPENSIVE. IT IS INTENDED AS A PROVISION TO PROVIDE SOME FLEXIBILITY. UH, WE HAVE EXAMPLES OF THAT IN OUR CODE TODAY. UH, FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE A SECTION OF OUR CODE THAT SAYS, IF YOUR HOME WAS BUILT TO A THREE FOOT SIDE SETBACK, WE WILL ALLOW YOU TO DO AN INLINE ADDITION AND CARRY ON THAT THREE FOOT SETBACK SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO JET IT IN AND HAVE THE ADDITION MEET FIVE FEET. SO IT'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THE CODE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. MY, MY COMMENTS AGAIN, PERMIT BEING ISSUED, SOMEBODY COULD OPEN A PERMIT FOR A BRAND NEW CONSTRUCTION OF THE E D U, NEVER CALLED FOR INSPECTIONS. GET THE, GET THE BUILDING COMPLETED, AND SIX MONTHS PERMIT WILL BE EXPIRED AND NO INSPECTOR COMING TO THE HOUSE. SO, SO SHOULD, SHOULD THAT BE THE CASE, OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION COULD INITIATE AN INVESTIGATION TO BRING THEM INTO COMPLIANCE. ALL RIGHT. UH, I DO SUPPORT, I THINK THE CONCEPT OF USING EXISTING STRUCTURES TO PROVIDE, UH, MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A, IS A GOOD THING FOR OUR CITY. AND I THINK THAT THE CHANGES AND WHAT WENT THROUGH PTAC AND ZONING ARE, ARE GOOD CHANGES. AND I'LL SUPPORT THIS, BUT I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR A MOTION. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION, UH, I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM 23 6. UH, WITH, UH, THE CHANGE THAT SUBSECTION B THREE BE ADJUSTED, THAT, THAT THE, UH, THREE FEET IS ONLY APPLICABLE ON THE SIDE PROPERTY LINE FOR NEW STRUCTURES AND NOT, AND NOT TO BE AFFECTED BY EXISTING STRUCTURES CONVERTED TO ADUS. MR. CHAIR, CAN I TAKE A WHACK AT THE LANGUAGE? MM-HMM. , UM, CAN WE CLEAR THAT? YEAH. BOX. ALRIGHT. SO I THINK WE WOULD, WHAT I BELIEVE, UH, COMMISSIONER ORIAN IS RECOMMENDING IS THAT IF, UH, A NEW STRUCTURE HAS NO OVERHANG, THE ACCESSORY UNIT MAY BE THREE FEET FROM THE SIDE PROPERTY LINE. IF AN EXISTING STRUCTURE HAS NO OVERHANG, ANOTHER, THE ACCESSORY UNIT MAY BE THREE FEET FROM THE REAR AND SIDE PROPERTY LINES THAT TAKES, AND YEAH. STRIKE THE B 'CAUSE THERE'S NO ANTIC BASIS FOR IT, A NEW STRUCTURE. AND THEN IF ON EXISTING, ON EXISTING STRUCTURE, [03:10:07] THIS NEW, DOESN'T THAT CONTRADICT THE FIRST SENTENCE? I DON'T THINK THEY FINISH EDITS. OKAY. HOLD ON. THE STRUCTURE HAS FROM THE SIDE. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. I MEAN, SO I GUESS WE COULD SAY . WELL, OKAY, SO AN A D D U SHALL REQUIRE MINIMUM SETBACK FROM THE REAR AND SIDE PROPERTY LINES OF FIVE FEET SUBJECT. I DON'T EVEN KNOW. YEAH, I MEAN, THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH MENDING FROM THE DAIS. PUT HOW , YEAH. OKAY. I MEAN, WE COULD SAY NUMBER, WE COULD PUT, HOWEVER, IF A, WHERE ARE WE? IF A NEW STRUCTURE HAS NO OVERHANG, THE ACCESSORY UNIT MAY BE PRESENTATION DECK HMM. THREE FEET FROM THE SIDE PROPERTY LINES, AND THEN I WOULD PROBABLY PUT YEAH. A COMMA OR IF AN EXISTING STRUCTURE. SO I THINK THE INTENTION TO MAKE IT DIFFERENT IS IF IT'S A NEW STRUCTURE, IT'S STILL FIVE FEET FROM THE BACK, ALTHOUGH IT CAN BE THREE FEET FROM THE SIDE, IF IT'S AN EXISTING STRUCTURE, IT CAN BE BOTH THREE FEET FROM THE BACK AND SIDE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, GIVEN THE MOTION. SO THE NEW STRUCTURE CAN'T, SO NEW STRUCTURE MUST BE FIVE FEET REAR. RIGHT? THE INTENT IS WITH AN OVER A PROVIDING, IT HAS NO OVERHANG, . AND IF IT HAS AN OVERHANG, IT'S FIVE FEET. THE DEFAULT RULE, WHICH IS THE FIRST SENTENCE, FIVE FEET. YEAH. THE, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT FIRE PROTECTION, IT'S DRAINAGE. YEAH. YOU'RE SAYING IF IT'S NEW, IT HAS TO BE FIVE FEET FROM THE REAR ANYWAY. IF IT'S NEW AND IT HAS AN OVERHANG, FIVE FEET, BOTH CASES, IF IT'S NEW AND HAS NO OVERHANG, UH, THREE FEET SIDE, FIVE FEET BACK. WHY DON'T WE JUST SAY THAT? UH, SO WE'RE REQUIRING THE FIVE FEET AT THE REAR NO MATTER WHAT. RIGHT. FOR NEW, FOR NEW, YOU DON'T EVEN NEED TO REQUIRE A MINIMUM SETBACK FROM THE REAR. YES. BUT IF YOU'RE CONVERTING AN EXISTING STRUCTURES THREE FEET MM-HMM. LOGAN, WELCOME. HELLO. I MEAN, THIS IS THE, THIS IS WHY WE HAVE A TEXT. THE, THE TEXT ON THE SCREEN. DOES THAT REFLECT YOUR MOTION? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S CONFUSING. YEAH. IT'S, IT'S VERY CUMBERSOME LANGUAGE. YEAH. I MEAN, WHY DON'T YOU SAY THAT I'M GONNA CALL CALL POINT OF ORDER. I HAVEN'T HEARD A SECOND ON THIS YET. WHAT WAS THAT? THERE HASN'T BEEN A SECOND ON HIS AMENDMENT. AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO COMMISSIONER, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE ATTACK, AND THERE ARE MEMBERS OF THE ZONING COMMISSION. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S B O A, BUT THERE ARE TECHNICAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE REVIEWED THIS. YEAH. THE, THE PREMISE OF, OF WHAT I'M MOTIONING, UM, WHILE I'M LOOKING FOR A SECOND HERE, IS THAT IF I'M BUILDING A 1600 SQUARE FOOT STRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S TWO STORIES. YOU GOT WATER DRAINING OFF THE ROOF, IT'S GOING IN THE NEIGHBOR'S YARD, OR IF THERE'S A FIRE, HOW DO YOU, IF FIRE, IF FIRE PERSONNEL WANT FIVE FEET TO PUT OUT A FIRE, HOW ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO DO THAT WHEN YOU ONLY HAVE THREE? UH, AND OR HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO PAINT IT OR CHANGE YOUR SIDING WITHOUT BEING A BURDEN ON YOUR NEIGHBOR? THAT, THAT'S WHAT COMES UP AT B O A STUFF WHEN WE, WHEN WE SEE THESE THREE FOOT SETBACKS. UM, BUT IF SO, AND ON AN EXISTING BILLING, IT'S ONE THING. BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING A BRAND NEW, UH, STRUCTURE IN YOUR REAR YARD, I MEAN, THE LEAST YOU CAN DO IS, IS MEET THE FIRE CODE. SO YOU HEARD THE FIRE MARSHAL WAS INVOLVED IN THIS ALREADY AND SIGNED OFF ON IT. THE, THE FIRE MARSHAL DID TESTIFY AT THE ZONING COMMISSION THAT THERE WERE NO CONCERNS IN THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT. AGAIN, THERE IS, THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS AMENDMENT THAT WEAKENS THE ABILITY OF THE CITY TO ENFORCE THE FIRE CODE THAT WILL STILL BE ENFORCED FULLY. AND, AND IF YOU TRULY WANT TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT CLOSE TO THE FENCE, YOU CAN ALWAYS GO TO THE B O A. I'M LOOKING OUT FOR THE NEIGHBORS. [03:15:01] I'M NOT LOOKING OUT FOR THE GUY WHO OWNS A LAWN. I'M LOOKING OUT FOR THE GUY WHO LIVES NEXT TO YOU. SO, LOGAN, THE, THE, THE FIRE FOLKS WERE FINE WITH THE THREE FEET. THEY, THEY DID NOT OBJECT TO IT AT THE ZONING COMMISSION. I'M, I'M, YEAH, YEAH. I DON'T HEAR A SECOND. THEN. UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN, UH, A NEW MOTION MOVE TO ACCEPT IT AS IS SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILAM, UH, TO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT AS PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PECK, TAKE A VOTE, PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YES. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? NO. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE. AYE. COUNCILMAN COURAGE? YES. COMMISSIONER PECK? YES. COMMISSIONER CREO HAYNES? YES. CHAIR, PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. WE'RE GONNA TAKE A, A RECESS, UM, OF, WE'LL TRY TO RECONVENE IN A LITTLE AFTER, WELL, 6 0 5. SO 30 MINUTE RECESS. THANK YOU. OKAY. IT'S 6 0 6. WE'RE GONNA RECONVENE, UH, VICE CHAIR CARILLO HAYES IS, UH, RECUSING HERSELF FROM THIS ITEM. SO SHE'S LEFT THE MEETING AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO 15 TWO. ALRIGHT. AMENDMENT 15 DASH TWO, UH, IS RELATED TO NOT REQUIRING A SUBDIVISION PLA FOR AN ELECTRICAL SUBSTATION. AND THIS AMENDMENT WAS SUBMITTED BY C P SS ENERGY. UH, WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT PRESENT. I WILL ALSO INTRODUCE THAT THE TEXT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN HIGHLIGHTED THERE, UH, WAS, UM, DISCUSSED IN WORK SESSION. UH, THIS WAS, UH, REQUESTED TO BE PULLED FOR ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION. UH, I WILL REMIND YOU THAT THE CONVERSATION, UH, GENERALLY WAS WHY ARE WE BEING SO SPECIFIC TO AN ELECTRICAL SUBSTATION? IF IT'S GOOD FOR AN ELECTRICAL SUBSTATION, WHY WOULD THAT NOT EXTEND TO OTHER UTILITY SUBSTATIONS? BUT AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT. UH, YES. MY NAME IS, UH, BRIAN LONGWORTH. I'M HERE REPRESENTING, UH, C P S ENERGY. I'M AN ENGINEER IN THE SUBSTATION AND TRANSMISSION, UH, GROUP AT C P S. AND REALLY, WE JUST WANTED THE LANGUAGE, UH, ELECTRICAL SUBSTATION ADDED INTO THIS, UM, THIS SECTION OF THE U D C, SO THAT WAY WE COULD CLARIFY, UM, UH, OUR PLATT EXEMPTION STATUS, UM, WHEN WE DEVELOP, UH, UH, ELECTRICAL SUBSTATIONS. AND THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN SOME CONFUSION SOMETIMES WITH CITY STAFF ON, UM, WHERE IN THE U D C WE'RE EXEMPT FROM PLATTING. AND SO WE JUST WE'RE TRYING TO ADD THAT WORDING IN AGAIN TO JUST TO CLARIFY TO THE STAFF WHEN WE DEVELOPED THESE SUBSTATIONS, UM, WHERE OUR, UM, UH, PLAT EXEMPTIONS EXISTS. AND THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAD. THANK YOU. OKAY. WAS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT TO THIS? I GUESS NOT ANY COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS. UH, YEAH, I, I HAD, UH, REVIEWED THIS AND I, ONE OF MY OPPOSITIONS WAS, IT WAS VERY SPECIFIC AND I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE CHANGING IT TO UTILITY SUBSTATIONS, BUT RIGHT. UM, I WAS HOPING TO ADD SOME OTHER LANGUAGE IN THERE MYSELF. AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF, UH, DID YOU READ ONE OF MY EMAILS? I DID READ YOUR EMAIL, YES. AND I, I'M, I'M GOOD WITH, WITH THE LANGUAGE YOU'RE PROPOSING, IF, IF THAT'S OKAY, I'LL PUT THAT OUT THERE WHEN A MOTION COMES UP. RIGHT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. I THINK WE KIND OF NEED TO SEE THE LANGUAGE, RIGHT? YEAH. ANYTHING ELSE LIKE ME TO MAKE, WANT ME TO MAKE A MOTION ON IT? WELL, UH, YEAH. WELL, YEAH, IT'S WHAT THE ADDITIONAL OR CHANGE IS SO WE CAN CONSIDER IT. SO THEN FOR ITEM, UH, 15 TWO, I MOVE, UH, TO, TO, UH, MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, WHAT IS PRESENTED HERE WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT IT STATE, UM, UTILITY EQUIPMENT HUBS, UTILITY RELATED INFRASTRUCTURE, INCLUDING THAT, BUT NOT LIMITED TO ELECTRICAL SUBSTATIONS, WATER TOWERS, WATER TREATMENT FACILITIES, COMMUNICATION TOWERS, DATA, INTERNET HUBS, ET CETERA. OR, [03:20:01] SO, CAN CAN YOU REPEAT THAT A LITTLE SLOWER JUST SO WE CAN GET THAT TYPED UP? OH, YES. YEAH. UM, IT'S, IT'S, SO IT WOULD BE AFTER THE WORD UTILITY EQUIPMENT HUBS, UTILITY RELATED INFRASTRUCTURE, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO ELECTRICAL SUBSTATIONS, WATER TOWERS, WATER TREATMENT FACILITIES, COMMUNICATION TOWERS, WHICH IS ALREADY THERE. AND THEN AFTER THAT, DATA SLASH INTERNET HUBS, ET CETERA. CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT YOU MEAN BY A DATA HUB? WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M THINKING ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, AS IS LIKE GOOGLE FIBER, WHEN THEY COME THROUGH, THERE'S PROBABLY GONNA NEED SOME SORT OF A STATION WHEN THEY START PUTTING ALL THIS FIBER EVERYWHERE. I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO INCLUDE THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO, IS TO HAVE AN ELECTRICAL OR WATER, A SEWER AND SOME SORT OF COMMUNICATION JUST SO THAT IT'S, PEOPLE UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE SPECTRUM THAT'S BEING INTENDED. SO MY, MY, MY CON, SO RIGHT NOW I WOULD SAY THAT THAT IS CAPTURED IN UTILITY EQUIPMENT HUTS. MY CONCERN WITH SAYING A, A DATA HUB IS I DO YEAH. GET RID OF THAT. I DO NOT WANT A, YEAH, GET RID OF IT. A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT MICROSOFT DATA CENTER TO THINK THEY, YOU'RE RIGHT. DON'T HAVE TO PLAT. AND I WOULD PROBABLY PUT A COLON AFTER THE INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO COLON. SO THAT'S MY MOTION. I WILL SECOND. OKAY. SO MOTION, UM, TWO, TWO FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS. UM, ONE UTILITY RELATED SHOULD BE A HYPHENATE. THERE SHOULD BE A HYPHEN FOR UTILITY AND BETWEEN UTILITY AND RELATED. UM, AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT MAYBE WE MOVE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE BETWEEN UTILITY EQUIPMENT, HUTS AND UTILITY RATED RELATED INFRASTRUCTURE, JUST SO THAT, UH, COLON THAT IS SUCCEEDED BY A LIST ENDS THE SENTENCE RATHER THAN HAS THE, YOU KNOW, THE LIST FOLLOWING THE COLON. AND THEN ANOTHER ITEM. SO ACCEPTED BY ME. I HAVE A QUESTION. WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF ET CETERA, THAT IT'S NOT AN ALL ENCOMPASSING LIST IN CASE SOMETHING ELSE GETS CREATED THAT'S IN THE SAME LINE, BUT WE ALREADY INCLUDE THE PHRASE INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO. OKAY. WELL THEN YOU CAN GET RID, I, I, I DON'T MIND GETTING RID OF ET CETERA. IF IT'S NOT, IF IT'S NOT GRAMMATICALLY APPROPRIATE, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. IF, IF I MAY, SIMILAR TO OUR CONCERN ON THE, THE DATA HUB, ADDING WATER TREATMENT FACILITY TO THAT LIST. AGAIN, I DON'T WANT SOMEONE TO THINK THAT YOU CAN BUILD A WATER TREATMENT PLANT WITH HUNDREDS OF WORKERS PARKING BUILDINGS AND THINK THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PLAT FOR THAT. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE REMOVE THAT PARTICULAR EXAMPLE AS WELL. OKAY. I ACCEPT AS A SECOND. ACCEPT. OKAY. SO THE MOTION FOR 15 DASH TWO IS, UH, TO ACCEPT AS AMENDED BY, UH, COMMISSIONER ORIAN AND WORDSMITH, BUT AND THAT I THINK THERE SHOULD BE AN OR YEAH. AFTER PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, OR I THINK THAT OR BELONGS THERE, RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY. I'M SURE, UH, THE PEOPLE WATCHING TV S A ARE ENJOYING THIS, UH, LIVE GRAMMAR, UM, EXERCISE. UH, OKAY. SO WE HAVE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY, UH, COMMISSIONER ORIEN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA. CAN WE TAKE THE VOTE PLEASE? COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER DKI. YES. COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE. AYE. COUNCILMAN COURAGE? [03:25:01] YES. UH, COMMISSIONER PECK? YES. UH, CHAIR PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. ALRIGHT. CAN SOMEBODY LET JULIA KNOW? OKAY. SIX 15. AND, UH, VICE CHAIR CREW HAYNES HAS REJOINED THE MEETING. AND WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO 2221. YES, SIR. AMENDMENT 22 DASH 21 IS RELATED TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING PROCESS AND WAS SUBMITTED BY THE CITY'S PLANNING DEPARTMENT. AND, UH, THE APPLICANT IS HERE FOR PRE, UH, BRIEF PRESENTATION. I BROUGHT TOO MUCH STUFF TO THE PODIUM WITH ME. UM, MY NAME IS MIKE A. DIAZ. I AM PLANNING COORDINATOR WITH THE CITY'S PLANNING DEPARTMENT. I HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION, UM, ABOUT OUR PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO SECTION 35 4 20, UM, WHICH IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING PROGRAM, WHICH I WILL CALL THE C P P. THE C P P WAS UPDATED THROUGH THE ADOPTION OF THE 2016 ESSAY. TOMORROW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT PROVIDES THE BROAD FRAMEWORK FOR CITY PLANNING. UM, WAS ADOPTED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT HAS NOT YET BEEN CODIFIED INTO THE U D C, WHICH HAS A SPECIFIC SECTION FOR IT. SO THE CURRENT U D C LANGUAGE IS OUTDATED. UM, SO OUR AMENDMENT CODIFIES THE ALREADY ADOPTED PROGRAM. IT INCORPORATES SOME PROCESS DETAILS THAT WERE NOT ADDRESSED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT CLARIFIES THE FUNCTION OF PREVIOUS NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY PLANS WITHIN THE UPDATED PROGRAM AND REQUIRE OR UPDATES THE LIST OF ADOPTED PLANS, UM, THAT HAS NOT BEEN ADOPTED OR NOT BEEN UPDATED SINCE 2002. THE GOAL OF THE 2016 COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING PROGRAM WAS TO PROVIDE CONSISTENT POLICY SUPPORT, RECOMMENDATIONS, AND STRATEGIES CITYWIDE THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF SUB AREA PLANS, WHICH INCLUDE REGIONAL CENTERS, COMMUNITY AREAS, AND CORRIDORS. OVER THE YEARS AND THROUGH PREVIOUS PLANNING PROGRAMS, THE CITY HAS TAKEN ON A LARGER ROLE IN LEADING THE PLANNING PROCESS RATHER THAN PUTTING THE ONUS ON NEIGHBORHOODS WHILE ALSO INVITING, ENCOURAGING, AND SUPPORTING WIDER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION THROUGHOUT THE PLANNING PROCESS. PLANS DEVELOPED UNDER THE 2016 C P P UTILIZE A CONSISTENT SET OF FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES, CREATING A FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. THOSE LAND USE CATEGORIES WERE DEVELOPED THROUGH COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION AND ADOPTED INTO THE U D C IN 2018. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING PROGRAM INCLUDES THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SUB AREA PLAN GEOGRAPHIES, REGIONAL CENTERS, COMMUNITY AREAS, AND CORRIDORS. WHILE THEY ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF GEOGRAPHIES, THE PROCESS FOR ALL THREE TYPES OF PLANS IS COMPLETELY THE SAME. UM, THEY HAVE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FOCUS. REGIONAL CENTERS TEND TO FOCUS ON EMPLOYMENT, HOUSING AND MOBILITY, WHEREAS, UM, THE COMMUNITY AREAS ARE MORE NEIGHBORHOOD ORIENTED. MORE ABOUT PUBLIC AMENITIES, PUBLIC SPACES, UM, AND PUBLIC INVESTMENT AND CORRIDOR PLANS HAVE MORE OF A FOCUS ON TRANSIT, SUPPORTIVE DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE RECEIVED A FEW LETTERS OF CONCERN, UM, TO THE CORRIDOR PLAN PORTION OF THE C P P. THE STATED CONCERNS INCLUDE, UM, THAT CORRIDOR PLANS OR BY CODIFYING THAT WE HAVE CORRIDOR PLANS, WE WOULD BE ADOPTING THOSE PLANS WITHOUT DUE PROCESS. UM, AND THAT THE CORRIDOR, UH, STEADY AREA, WHICH TYPICALLY EXTENDS A CORRIDOR MILE ON EITHER SIDE OF A CORRIDOR AND CAN EXTEND UP TO HALF A MILE AROUND A, A MAJOR TRANSIT STATION, THAT THE CONCERN IS THAT WE WOULD, UM, TRY TO PUT TOO HIGH DENSITY LAND USE DESIGNATIONS ALONG THOSE CORRIDORS. UM, IN REALITY, LIKE I SAID, THE CORRIDOR PLANS SHOULD BE ADOPTED EXACTLY THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS AS REGIONAL CENTER AND COMMUNITY AREA PLANS. UH, MEANING COMING TO PLANNING, COMMISSION, ZONING, COMMISSION, AND ULTIMATELY [03:30:01] BY CITY COUNCIL. UM, AND THE HALF OR CORRIDOR TO HALF MILE CORRIDOR STUDY AREA IS KIND OF AN INDUSTRY STANDARD WHEN TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION WALK SHEDS. UM, SO THAT'S THE AREA THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT TO DO SOME MARKET STUDIES, SOME, UH, TRAFFIC STUDIES, SOME TRANSIT STUDIES. UM, AND THAT AREA WILL DEFINITELY INCLUDE SOME ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY AND LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. HOWEVER, THE INTENT OF THE PLANNING PROCESS IS TO ENGAGE THOSE RESIDENTS AS STAKEHOLDERS IN AN EFFORT TO PROTECT EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS, IDENTIFY OTHER APPROPRIATE AREAS FOR POTENTIAL INCREASED DENSITY AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, IMPROVE ACCESS TO PUBLIC AMENITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THOSE RESIDENTS, AND REDUCE, REDUCE THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF, OF TRAFFIC ON THOSE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. SO WE, THAT STUDY AREA ALLOWS US TO ENGAGE THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD FOLKS SO THEY HAVE A SAY AND A VOICE IN THE PLANNING PROCESS. UM, WE DID MAKE SOME REVISIONS TO OUR ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED AMENDMENT. UM, THOSE REVISIONS WERE REVIEWED BY TECH. IT'S, WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY NEW REVISIONS FROM, FROM THAT PROCESS. UH, BUT WE DID WORK WITH TIER ONE AND SOME OTHER, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD STAKEHOLDERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ROLE OF PREVIOUS NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY PLANNING PROCESSES, UH, WAS HIGHLIGHTED MORE. UM, AND THAT THOSE FOLKS WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE, UH, A VOICE AT THE TABLE THROUGH THE SUB AREA PLANNING PROCESS. AND THEN LASTLY, UM, THAT THE LIST OF, UH, PLANS AT THE END OF THIS SECTION, LIKE I SAID, IT HAD NOT BEEN UPDATED SINCE 2002. UM, IT, AT THE TIME IT INCLUDED ALL NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED UNDER PREVIOUS PLANNING PROGRAMS, OF WHICH WE'VE HAD MANY. UH, SO THIS 20 16 1 IS JUST THE LATEST ITERATION. UM, SO WE UPDATED THAT SECTION TO CLARIFY WHICH PLANS CONTROL. UM, AND THIS SLIDE SHOWS SOME OF THE, UM, ACTUAL LANGUAGE FROM THE ADOPTION OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA REGIONAL CENTER PLAN BECAUSE OUR NEW SUB AREA PLANS DON'T EXACTLY LINE UP WITH PREVIOUS PLAN EFFORTS. SOMETIMES THE NEW PLAN OVERLAPS A LITTLE BIT, SO A PART OF THE OLDER PLAN STILL CONTROLS, SO WE HAD TO MASSAGE THAT LANGUAGE. UM, BUT INDIVIDUALS CAN ALWAYS CHECK WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND OR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO DETERMINE WHICH PLAN CONTROLS FOR A PARTICULAR PROPERTY OR ZONING REQUEST. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M AVAILABLE. THANK YOU, MIKE. AND THANK YOU FOR, UH, CLARIFYING THE CORRIDOR QUESTION THAT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, IS ANYBODY HERE? YES, SIR. OKAY. ALL YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU. I'LL BE BRIEF. MY NAME IS ROSS LAWHEAD. I RESIDE AT 59 75 LOCKHILL ROAD, ZIP 7 8 2 4 0. I'VE SERVED AS A VOLUNTEER LAND USE ATTORNEY FOR THE OAKLAND ESTATES ASSOCIATION SINCE 97. UM, I'M ALL ABOUT DEFENDING NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS AS THE ONLY LAND USE TOOL FOR OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE WE LACK RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS AND WE OFTEN BEAR THE BRUNT OF CHANGING CITY PRIORITIES AS A RESULT. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER ROD SANCHEZ, AND IN FACT, UH, THE, THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT, UH, FOR URGING THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO WORK WITH TIER ONE, UH, TO IMPROVE THE TREATMENT OF NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS UNDER THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT. THE CHANGES ARE NOT ALL THAT WE WOULD'VE WISHED, BUT THEY REPRESENT A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT. MODIFICATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE CLARIFYING THAT THE FUTURE LAND USE COMPONENTS OF NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS WILL BE EVALUATED WITH STAKEHOLDERS AS THESE LARGER FOOTPRINTED SUBAR AND REGIONAL CENTER PLANS ARE ADOPTED BECAUSE THEY WILL EFFECTIVELY SUBSUME THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS WITHIN THEIR LARGER FOOTPRINT. HOWEVER, I ASK THAT YOU REMOVE SECTION 35 4 20 A THREE B RELATING TO CORRIDOR PLANS. THE CORRIDOR PLAN PROVISIONS AS DRAFTED CAN BE USED TO OVERRIDE THE LAND USE REQUIREMENTS OF ALL THE OTHER ADOPTED PLANS OF WHATEVER SCOPE. THAT'S THE FOCUS OF MY CONCERN. THE PROVISIONS CALLING FOR A STUDY AREA OF A QUARTER TO A HALF MILE ON EACH SIDE OF A CORRIDOR STREET ARE INTERPRETABLE AS JUSTIFYING CHANGING LAND USES OVER THE, THAT ENTIRE WIDE CORRIDOR THAT WOULD INTRUDE DEEPLY AND CATASTROPHICALLY INTO ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS. UM, I HEARD MICAH TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS AND I FOUND THE DISCUSSION SOMEWHAT REASSURING, BUT ALSO SOMEWHAT, UH, CONCERNING AS WELL. AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE [03:35:01] LANGUAGE THAT SUGGESTS THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, THESE STUDY AREAS, IT'S TO MITIGATE IMPACTS AND MAKE CLEAR THAT IT'S NOT TO START WITH A PRESUMPTION THAT WE'RE GONNA BE, UH, CHANGING THE LAND USE AND HENCE ULTIMATELY THE ZONING TO THAT DEPTH. UH, BECAUSE MOST OF THE ROADS THAT ARE CONTEMPLATED FOR THESE CORRIDORS REALLY GO THROUGH ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS AND, UH, A QUARTER MILE GOES DEEPLY INTO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. UM, FURTHERMORE, I'M CONCERNED THAT IN THE CORRIDOR PLAN AREA, WE HAVEN'T HAD ENOUGH PUBLIC PROCESS. I BELIEVE THAT THE U D C AMENDMENT PROCESS MUST NOT BE ABUSED TO BYPASS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ON MAJOR INITIATIVES THAT AFFECT LAND USE. THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THIS VERY REASON REJECTED A TRIO OF OVERBROAD MIXED USE CATEGORIES PROPOSED BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS COMPANION U D C AMENDMENTS. THIS COMMISSION SHOULD FOLLOW SUIT AND REQUIRE THAT THE CORRIDOR PLAN COMPONENT OF THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT BE CONSIDERED OUTSIDE THE U D C AMENDMENT PROCESS. AND ONLY AFTER A VERY ROBUST PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS SUCH A PROCESS COULD AT MINIMUM GENERATE CRUCIAL MODIFICATIONS. LIMITING, LIMITING THE SCOPE OF LAND USES REVISABLE BY THE CORRIDOR PLAN PROCESS. AND I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS HERE THE IDEA THAT IT SORT OF ALL HAPPENED IN SAN ANTONIO TOMORROW. SAN ANTONIO TOMORROW WAS DID, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE EXTRA TIME I GOT? YEAH, THOSE THREE MINUTES IN THREE MINUTES. MINUTES, YEAH, THAT'S THREE MINUTES. THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. QUESTIONS STARTING COUNCILMAN COURAGE? YES, THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, UH, IT'S WORRISOME TO THINK ABOUT, UH, STUDYING LAND USE ALONG, LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, SAN PEDRO, WHICH IS ONE OF THOSE PRIME AREAS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENT OF ARTERIAL UH, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. AND, UM, GOING A QUARTER MILE OR A HALF MILE ON EITHER SIDE OF, OF THAT PARTICULAR ARTERIAL ROAD, YOU'RE GETTING INTO A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS. UH, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING FOR? ARE WE LOOKING TO SAY, WELL, IF WE'RE GONNA PUT IN, UH, SOME KIND OF A R T, UH, ARE WE GONNA GO AHEAD AND CONVERT A LOT OF THESE HOMES TO OTHER TYPES OF PROPERTIES? ARE WE GONNA ALLOW FOR MORE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT? I KNOW ALONG MOST MAJOR ARTERIES THAT ARE DEVELOPED FOR TRANSPORTATION, THE BIG GOAL IS PUTTING MORE DENSE HOUSING ALONG THERE AND PUT IN A LOT MORE COMMERCIAL USE ALONG THERE. UH, AND, AND I THINK THAT PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THOSE COMMUNITIES NOW ARE AFRAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA BE LOOKED AT. AND GOING INTO A QUARTER OR A HALF A MILE OFF OF THOSE ROADS TO LOOK AT THAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT TOTALLY CHANGES THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS DRASTICALLY. DO WE REALLY HAVE TO LOOK A QUARTER MILE OR, YOU KNOW, A HALF A MILE ON BOTH SIDES OF SOME OF THESE MAJOR STREETS IN ORDER TO DETERMINE, UH, WHAT CAN BE DONE OR CAN WE SAY TO THE NEXT STREET OVER? BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT, UH, LET'S SAY JUST SAN PEDRO, YOU GO OVER TO THE NEXT STREET OVER AND IT'S PROBABLY THE LENGTH OF A HOUSE. YOU KNOW, IT'S A HUNDRED AND SOMETHING FEET, UH, YOU KNOW, TILL YOU GET TO THE NEXT STREET OVER MAYBE 150 FEET. UH, ISN'T THAT ENOUGH TO START LOOKING AT WHAT CAN BE DONE RATHER THAN GOING OVER, YOU KNOW, 2000 FEET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO LOOK AT WHAT THAT CHANGE COULD BE. ONCE YOU START LOOKING AT THOSE THINGS AND START TALKING ABOUT WHAT COULD BE, UH, YOU TEND TO FORGET ABOUT WHAT'S THERE. AND THAT, AND THAT'S A BIG CONCERN OF MINE, I THINK, AND PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA LIVE ALONG THOSE ARTERIES WHEN WE TALK ABOUT STUDYING, UH, THOSE AREAS IN SUCH LARGE NUMBERS. SO THAT'S CONCERN I HAVE. ALRIGHT. UH, COMMISSIONER ZUKI? NO QUESTION. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL. UM, WELL, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THIS IS THAT THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THIS CORONER PLANS AS PART OF THE OVERALL C P P IS JUST TO GIVE A STRUCTURE TO WHAT THE STUDY AND PLANNING EXERCISE WILL LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF DETERMINING THE BOUNDARIES OF, OF STUDY. UM, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT PLANNING CHANGES [03:40:01] HAPPENING WITHOUT THE PROPERTY OWNER'S CONSENT AROUND THE CORRIDOR PLANS, BUT, BUT THE PUBLIC PROCESS THAT WILL GO INTO THESE PLAN STUDIES AS BEING IDENTICAL TO THE REGIONAL CENTER PLANS AND THE COMMUNITY PLANS MR. MILE, I UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL. UM, I HAPPEN TO LIVE IN A BLOCK THAT'S SURROUNDED ON THREE SIDES BY HILDEBRAND BROADWAY AND NORTH NEW BRAUNFELS. SO , I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THE CONCERN ABOUT WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN. I MEAN, THAT'S NOT A QUARTER OF A MILE FROM ANYWHERE. UM, AND I, I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT MORE LAID OUT. I BELIEVE IN THE INTENT OF IT AND THE CONCEPT OF IT, BUT I, I DO FEAR THAT THERE COULD BE SOME POSSIBILITY FOR MISINTERPRETATION LATER DOWN THE ROAD. MAYBE I'M MISSING SOMETHING, BUT WHAT IS THE, UH, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR WITH THE CORD, WITH THE, WITH THE STUDY AREA? LIKE, LIKE WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE STUDY AREA? WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT? WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? WHAT DO YOU HOPE TO GET OUT OF IT? SO RIGHT NOW, UM, THE CITY HAS ONE CORRIDOR PLAN THAT IS IN PROCESS. IT IS ACTUALLY FINISHING UP AFTER, I BELIEVE IT STARTED IN 2018. UM, IT'S THE BANDERA ROAD CORRIDOR PLAN. UM, THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED BY COUNCIL DISTRICT NUMBER SEVEN. UM, HOWEVER, IN MOST CASES, WELL, I CAN'T SAY MOST CASES IN OTHER INSTANCES, THE CORRIDOR IS TO BE STUDIED, IS EITHER GONNA BE IDENTIFIED BY COUNCIL AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT DIRECTED TO LOOK AT IT OR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT. UM, OTHERWISE THOSE CORRIDORS WOULD BE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE REGIONAL PLANNING OR REGIONAL CENTER PLANNING PROCESS AS AREAS THAT NEED AN ADDITIONAL LOOK. SO THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THE REGIONAL CENTER PLANNING PROCESS OR COMMUNITY AREA PROCESS. UM, BUT, BUT THOSE STAKEHOLDERS, THOSE PLANNING TEAMS WOULD LIKE THE CITY TO LOOK AT THAT SPECIFIC CORRIDOR. USUALLY IT'S A SPECIFIC STRETCH OF CORRIDOR, UM, MORE FOCUSED ON POSSIBLE TRANSIT TRANSIT THAT'S ALREADY THERE, ALREADY THERE, POTENTIAL FOR REDEVELOPMENT OF PROPERTIES. UM, ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF A CORRIDOR PLAN THAT WAS DONE YEARS AGO, UM, WAS THE NORTHEAST CORRIDOR, UH, THAT RUNS ALONG PARITAL NACODOCHES THOUSAND OAKS AREA. UM, THAT WAS MORE OF A REINVESTMENT PLAN. UM, AND THAT PROGRAM IS STILL UNDERWAY. IT'S BEEN GOING STRONG FOR MANY YEARS. UM, ONE OF THE NEXT CORRIDOR PLANS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO THAT ALONG GOLIAD ROAD IN THE BROOKS AREA REGIONAL CENTER. AND THAT ONE WAS IDENTIFIED THROUGH THAT REGIONAL CENTER PLANNING PROCESS. SO THE, THE LANGUAGE THAT IS IN THE C P P IS NOT SUPER SPECIFIC BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE THAT EACH OF THOSE CORRIDORS IS DIFFERENT. THE CONCERNS OF THE PLANNING TEAM OR THE, UM, CIRCUMSTANCE THAT LEADS THE COUNCIL OFFICE TO REQUEST THAT WE LOOK AT AN AREA COULD BE VERY DIFFERENT AND VARIED ACROSS THE CITY. IT IS INTENDED TO LOOK AT TRANSIT CORRIDORS THAT VIA HAS IDENTIFIED THROUGH THEIR, THEIR TRANSIT PLANNING PROCESS. UM, BUT IT, IT COULD EXTEND TO OTHER AREAS, LIKE I SAID, THAT ARE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE, THE REGIONAL CENTER AND COMMUNITY PLAN PROCESS. SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A PLAN TO LOOK AT FUTURE LAND CHANGING FUTURE LAND USE OF THE SURROUNDING AREAS OF ALONG THE ROADWAY. I THINK IT DEPENDS IF THERE IS A RECENT, UM, SUB AREA, OTHER SUB AREA PLAN. UM, SO LIKE THE BROOKS AREA, LOOKING AT GOLIAD ROAD, WE WILL NOT MOST LIKELY BE LOOKING AT UPDATING LAND USE. THERE MIGHT BE A COUPLE OF OF INSTANCES WHERE THAT'S WARRANTED, BUT IT IS MORE OF A REINVESTMENT PLAN LOOKING AT MARKET STUDY MARKET VI VIABILITY OF EXISTING COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, THE IMPACT THAT THEY HAVE ON SURROUNDING ABUTTING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME IN THAT AREA AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT, UM, THOSE AREAS WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE MARKET STUDY AND THE TRANSIT STUDY AND TRAFFIC STUDIES, BUT THEY WILL LIKELY BE TAKEN OUT OF THE EVENTUAL REINVESTMENT PLAN AREA BECAUSE IT'S NOT, HOUSING IS NOT PART OF, OF THAT CORRIDOR PLAN. UM, HOWEVER, BANDERA ROAD HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. THERE'RE ONLY A VERY SMALL PORTION OF THE BANDERA ROAD CORRIDOR IS [03:45:01] IN A, AN ADOPTED, UH, REGIONAL CENTER PLAN. IT, IT RUNS THROUGH THE MEDICAL CENTER PLAN AND IN JUST A TINY AREA. SO FOR THAT AREA, AND BECAUSE WE WON'T GET TO THE, UM, THE SUB AREA PLANNING PROCESS FOR THE REST OF THAT CORRIDOR FOR A FEW YEARS, WE WILL BE LOOKING AT, AT LAND USE, WE'LL BE DOING SOME LAND USE ANALYSIS. UM, I'M NOT SURE AT THIS POINT IF THAT LAND USE WILL BE TAKEN FORWARD TO BE ADOPTED. LIKE IT WOULD BE THROUGH A REGIONAL CENTER PLAN OR COMMUNITY AREA PLAN, OR IF IT'S GONNA BE MORE OF A RECOMMENDATION. I HAVE A FEELING THAT DIRECTION WILL COME FROM THE TECHNICAL WORKING GROUP THAT HAS BEEN INVOLVED SINCE THAT PLAN STARTED, WHICH INCLUDES COUNCILWOMAN REPRESENTATIVES, UM, FROM SURROUNDING CITIES. UM, SO THERE, THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY BUILT INTO THIS LANGUAGE BECAUSE SOME THE CIRCUMSTANCES ARE GONNA BE VERY DIFFERENT FOR, FOR EACH POTENTIAL CORRIDOR. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. . SO JUST TO, UM, EXPAND AND MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY. WHEN, WHEN THE, THE LANGUAGE IN HERE THAT STATES A QUARTER MILE UP TO A HALF MILE REALLY IS JUST TO HELP BUILD THE COMPREHENSIVE LOOK WHEN YOU ARE EVALUATING THESE AREAS. CORRECT? SO IT'S NOT TO YOUR, WHAT YOU STATED EARLIER, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY TO IDENTIFY SPECIFIC AREAS IN IMMEDIATE THAT WOULD NEED A CHANGE IN LAND USE, BUT IT'S TO HELP BUILD THE WHOLE PICTURE FOR THESE ARTERIALS FOR FUTURE USE. CORRECT. AND NEED, YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. IF I CAN CHIME MM-HMM. , AND IF I CAN CHIME IN IN MY CAPACITY WITH THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT . UM, SO A LOT OF THESE TIMES, AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A STUDY AREA. YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THESE AREAS THAT SURROUND THE CORRIDORS IN ORDER TO DETERMINE WHAT THOSE, UH, WHAT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE GONNA BE. SO WHETHER IT IS A CHANGE IN CHANGES IN FUTURE LAND USE, BECAUSE THIS IS A TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT AREA BECAUSE IT HAS A LOT OF, MAYBE IT'S NEXT TO A TRANSIT STOP, BUT ALSO WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THOSE USES THAT ARE FEEDING, UM, INTO OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT FROM THE TRANSPORTATION'S PERSPECTIVE. LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE'S A LOT OF DENSITY IN AN AREA THAT RESULTS IN A LOT OF, UH, CROSSING THE STREET, DO WE NEED TO LOOK AT MORE MIDBLOCK CROSSWALKS? UH, BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING MORE, UM, ACCIDENTS THERE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE CROSSING MIDBLOCK. DO WE NEED TO WORK WITH VIA TO MOVE SOME, SOME OF THOSE VIA BUS STOPS OVER. A LOT OF THOSE THINGS ARE GONNA TIE TOGETHER WITH US. AND, AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAVING THAT, WHETHER IT'S A QUARTER MILE, HALF A MILE, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT CHANGING WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE. IT'S ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY TODAY, WHAT THEY, WHAT THE POTENTIAL COULD BE AS, AS CURRENTLY ZONED AND DETERMINING HOW DO THEY FEED INTO THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY WOULD DO FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE. AND WHAT WE WOULD DO FROM A TRANSPORTATION PERSPECTIVE. AND THE VA COULD DO FROM A TRANSIT. YES. NO QUESTIONS. MY QUESTION TO STAFF WAS, YOU KNOW, THE UTILITY LINES ALONG ALL THESE ARTERIALS, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA TAKE YEARS TO, TO CHANGE THEM AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT NEW INVESTMENTS COMING INTO THOSE AREAS. SO I CAN'T SAY WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT EVERY ARTERIAL IN THE CITY. IT IS, YOU KNOW, THESE CORRIDOR PLANS ARE GOING TO BE SPECIFIC, LIKE THE BANDERA ROAD ONE WAS IDENTIFIED BY DISTRICT SEVEN BECAUSE TEXDOT WAS DOING A STUDY ALONG THAT ROADWAY ALREADY. UM, SO WE WERE ABLE TO LEVERAGE SOME, SOME RESOURCES HONESTLY. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DOUBLE UP ON THE EFFORT. UM, HOWEVER, UM, GOLIAD ROAD, WHICH WAS IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE, THE BROOKS AREA REGIONAL CENTER PLANNING PROCESS, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A VERY SPECIFIC, UM, SECTION OF THE, OF THE CORRIDOR. IT'S NOT THE ENTIRE THING. IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO WHAT THE COMMUNITY, UM, AND WHAT THE PLANNING TEAM DECIDED AND, AND BUILT CONSENSUS AROUND IT. IT'S A RECOMMENDATION FROM THAT PLAN. SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, UTILITIES ARE GONNA BE AN ISSUE IN SOME AREAS. UM, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO, TO PLAN THE ENTIRE CITY CORRIDOR BY CORRIDOR. THAT'S WHAT THE REGIONAL CENTER AND COMMUNITY AREA PLANS ARE FOR. UH, I'M JUST WONDERING, IS THERE, IS THERE ANY SORT OF A LINKING WITH THESE IN CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICTS TO WHERE YOU COULD USE THESE SORT OF PLANS TO CREATE ADDITIONAL OVERLAY DISTRICTS? OH, THE PLAN COULD INCLUDE A RECOMMENDATION TO LOOK AT POTENTIAL DESIGN STANDARDS. UM, AGAIN, ALL OF THAT GOES THROUGH THIS SAME U D C PROCESS. UM, WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL. PERSONALLY, I'M, I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICTS. OKAY. UM, AND THANK YOU ENOUGH DIFFERENT ONES, BUT, BUT IT COULD, I THINK ALL MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. THANK YOU. OH, I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER. SORRY, JUST TO FOLLOW UP 'CAUSE I'M STILL [03:50:01] NOT QUITE SURE THAT I'VE COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. SO CAN YOU GIVE US PERHAPS A, FROM THE BANDERA PLAN AN OUTCOME OR WHAT AN EXPECTED OUTCOME OF SUCH A PLAN FROM THE QUARTER MIGHT BE? OR, OR AN EXAMPLE FROM SOME OTHER CITY THAT MAYBE HAS DONE THIS? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT COULD WE EXPECT AS AN OUTCOME FROM THIS? SO I HAVE JUST RECENTLY STARTED TO READ THE DRAFT CORRIDOR OR THE DRAFT BANDERA ROAD PLAN. UM, SO I'M, I HAVEN'T MADE IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH. UM, BUT IT DOES HAVE SOME LAND USE RECOMMENDATIONS. IT, IT DEFINITELY HAS SOME CONNECTIVITY RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, BECAUSE THERE ARE NOT MANY CROSS STREETS, ESPECIALLY FOR THE NUMBER OF, UM, EXISTING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THAT LINE, THAT, THAT SECTION OF BANDERA ROAD. UM, BUT AS KATT SAID, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL INFRASTRUCTURE CROSSWALK IMPROVEMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, THEY ALSO LOOK AT ISSUES OF EQUITY AND, YOU KNOW, TRANSIT ISSUE. I, THERE'S, IT'S, IT'S A BROAD, IT'S A BROAD PLAN. THE DRAFT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO LOOK AT IT. GET TODAY. YEAH, , WHICH IS WHY I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THROUGH IT YET EITHER. . SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, YOU KNOW, WE'VE APPROVED, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY REGIONAL PLANS THEY COME HERE. WE'VE HAD SEVEN ADOPTED SO FAR, AND YOU'LL BE SEEING ANOTHER ONE VERY SOON. AND ANY OF THOSE, HAVE WE GONE AND RE REZONED OR DIS OR THE CITY GONE AND REZONED OR DISPLACED ANY RESIDENCE THAT WAS DISPLACED? NO. UM, WE, THE VERY FIRST REGIONAL CENTER PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED WAS THE BROOKS AREA REGIONAL CENTER PLAN. WE DO, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT DOES HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE REZONING DIVISION. UM, AND THE STAFF IS IN THAT DIVISION, IS LOOKING AT THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE BROOKS PLAN AND HAS COMPLETED SOME, UM, CITY INITIATED REZONINGS. THE VERY FIRST ONES HAVE, UM, ABSOLUTELY FOCUSED ON NEIGHBORHOOD PRESERVATION, UM, REZONING EXISTING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE MULTI-FAMILY ZONING, TAKING THEM BACK DOWN TO A SINGLE FAMILY ZONING. UM, SO WHEN WE REZONE, IT IS ABSOLUTELY BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE IN THE PLAN THAT WE'RE DEVELOPED THROUGH A COMMUNITY PLANNING PROCESS AND WITH THE PLANNING TEAM HAVE COMMUNITY BUY-IN. IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A LONG COMMUNITY PLANNING PROCESS. IT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, I READ THIS AS, AS FUTURE THINKING. AND IF WE REALLY WANT TO ESTABLISH, UH, DENSITY AND UTILIZE, YOU KNOW, THESE ADVANCED RA RAPID TRANSIT, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT THE, THE OPPORTUNITY. I MEAN, YOU WANT, YOU WANT TO CREATE TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. YOU WANT TO CREATE DENSITY FOR THESE INITIATIVES TO WORK. SO INAPPROPRIATE AREAS, INAPPROPRIATE AREAS WITH THE PUBLIC, UH, INPUT OF COURSE. BUT, UM, I THINK IT'S, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STUDIES AND AS LONG AS THE, THE PUBLIC PROCESS CONTINUES THE WAY IT IS, I'D HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THIS. SO THANK YOU. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND MOTION BY VICE CHAIR CREW HAYES, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ORIAN. OH, MAYBE I SOUND LIKE, ALL RIGHT. MY APOLOGIES. MY 11TH SECOND. COMMISSIONER GARCIA. YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YES. COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE. AYE. COUNCILMAN COURAGE. I DON'T WANT TO KILL THE WHOLE THING BECAUSE OF ONE SECTION THAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND VOTE. AYE. COMMISSIONER PECK? YES. COMMISSIONER CREO HAYES? YES. CHAIR PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. SORRY, IT'S GETTING A LITTLE LATE, SO MY APOLOGIES. UH, UH, 16 ONE AMENDMENT 16 DASH ONE IS RELATED TO REDUCING THE HEIGHT LIMIT TO ONE AND ONE HALF STORY FOR THE R ONE AND R TWO BASE ZONING DISTRICT, AND TWO AND A HALF STORIES FOR THE R THREE BASE ZONING DISTRICT. THIS AMENDMENT WAS SUBMITTED BY THE TIER, TIER ONE NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION, SPECIFICALLY, I BELIEVE IT WAS RAY MORALES. FOR THIS ITEM. THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT, UH, AND THIS, UH, THIS ITEM WAS REQUESTED TO BE PULLED INDIVIDUALLY IN WORK SESSION FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. HOLA, HOLA. GOOD, GOOD AFTERNOON. UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. UH, I'M RAY MORALES, REGISTERED ARCHITECT AND, UH, RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 10. UH, MEMBER OF T ONE NC AND THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION AMENDMENT 16 DASH ONE SEEKS TO PROTECT OUR OLDER LEGACY AND HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS THAT [03:55:01] COMPRISE THE ORIGINAL 36 SQUARE MILES, WHICH DEFINED THE SAN ANTONIO'S IN THE CITY IN THE CITY'S 19 18 37 CHARTER. IT IS KEY TO STABILIZING OUR INNER CITY NEIGHBORHOODS, AND IT BEGINS TO ADDRESS INCOMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT IN OUR UNIQUELY HISTORIC AND CULTURAL COMMUNITIES. AMENDMENT 16 DASH ONE PROPOSES A 25 FOOT ONE AND A HALF STORY HEIGHT FOR R ONE AND R TWO, AND A TWO AND A HALF STORY, UH, 35 FOOT HEIGHT FOR R THREE ZONING DISTRICTS. THIS AMENDMENT SEEKS TO ENSURE THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT IS COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUND DEVELOPMENT IN USED CHARACTER AND SIZE. PER U D C STATEMENT OF PURPOSE SECTION 35 DASH 3 0 1, THE CURRENT CODE ALLOWS FOR A THREE STORY HEIGHT IN THESE DISTRICTS. HAVING A THREE STORY 35 FOOT HEIGHT STRUCTURE IS NOT HARMONIOUS NEXT TO OUR LOW SCALE, ONE TO ONE AND A HALF STORY RESIDENTIAL HOMES IN OUR SMALL INNER CITY LOTS. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, CITY, CITY LOTS THAT ARE SIZED 1,250 SQUARE FEET, 2003 AND 3000 SQUARE FEET. THERE'S SOME ADU THAT ARE ACTUALLY LARGER THAN THAT. UM, WHAT WE ARE ASKING WITH THIS AMENDMENT IS WHAT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR AS, AS FAR BACK AS 2007 OR EVEN FURTHER BACK THAN THE GUADALUPE WESTSIDE COMMUNITY COMMUNITY PLAN OF 2007 FOR COMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT AND LAND USE APPROPRIATE TO OUR COMMUNITIES. THE ORIGINAL INTENT WHEN R ONE AND R TWO DISTRICTS WERE INTRODUCED BACK IN 2018 WAS TO PROVIDE OPTIONS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, STARTED HOMES AND EMPTY NESTER HOMES. ADDING A SECOND STORY, OR EVEN A THIRD STORY, IS A LUXURY. IT ADDS COST TO THE STRUCTURE, AND THIS WOULD REDUCE AFFORDABILITY FOR THE FIRST TWO CATEGORIES, AFFORDABLE HOMES AND STORY HOMES. AS AN ARCHITECT, I'M ALWAYS FOCUSED ON FUNCTIONALITY AND ACCESSIBILITY. I WOULD NEVER RECOMMEND TO AN OLDER CLIENT OR A DISABLED PERSON TO BUILD A TWO STORY RESIDENCE. THIS WOULD VOID THE THIRD CATEGORY, EMPTY NESTER HOMES. WE T ONE AND C HAVE MET AND WORKED WITH OUR PARTNERS AT D S D AND AGREED TO REVISE AMENDMENT 16 DASH ONE. UH, TO REMOVE THE PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR R ONE. I BELIEVE THAT'S, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THIS IN A WHILE. UM, UH, AND WE'VE ALSO AGREED WITH D S D TO COORDINATE HALF STORY DEFINITION. CURRENTLY, THE U D C UH, HALF STORY DEFINITION IS PROBLEMATIC. AND THE NEXT AMENDMENT 16 DASH FIVE ADDRESSES THIS AS WELL. SO WE INCLUDED THIS, UH, DEFINITION, UH, ON THIS AMENDMENT AS WELL, UH, SO THAT IT WOULD BE COORDINATED. OUR FINAL PROPOSED AMENDMENT REPRESENTS JUST ANOTHER TOOL THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY CAN EMPLOY TO MAKE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS MORE VIABLE, STABLE, AND HEALTHY. OUR INNER CITY NEIGHBORHOODS ARE RICH WITH INTANGIBLE CULTURAL HERITAGE AND HELP DEFINE THE CITY'S ROLE AS AN EPICENTER OF HISPANIC CULTURE, HISTORIC PRESERVATION, AND ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. UH, ANY COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YES. SO, UM, AFTER STUDYING THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT, I FIND, UM, THE DEFINITION OF THE HALF STORY TO BE, UH, EXCEEDINGLY PRESCRIPTIVE. AND, UM, I WONDER, UH, WHY ARE DORMERS A REQUIREMENT? UM, COULD THERE BE OPERABLE SKYLIGHTS? WHY ARE ONLY TWO WALLS SUPPOSED TO BE REPLACED BY A ROOF? WHAT IF IT'S A SHED ROOF? WHAT IF IT'S A HIP ROOF AND THERE ARE THREE WALLS REPLACED BY A ROOF? WHY ARE OPEN DECKS OR PORCHES NOT ALLOWED ON THE HALF STORY? I THINK THAT SOME OF THESE ELEMENTS THAT ARE SO PRESCRIPTIVE ARE MORE APPROPRIATE TO AN N C D ORDINANCE RATHER THAN TO A CITYWIDE CODE DOCUMENT. I IF, IF I COULD ALLOW THE PERSON THAT, UH, APPLIED FOR THE HALF STORY DEFINITION TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. SURE. I ALSO, THEY, THEY'RE MUCH MORE FAMILIAR WITH, UH, THE DEFINITION. I ALSO WANNA, UM, TALK THROUGH SOME OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS. FOR INSTANCE, IN THE R ONE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAVE LOT SIZES OF, UH, 1,250 SQUARE FEET TO 1,999 SQUARE FEET WITH A 45% BUILDABLE LOT AREA, BUILDABLE AREA ON THE LOT. SO THAT MEANS THAT THE FOOTPRINT WOULD RANGE FROM 562.5 FEET UP TO 899.5 SQUARE FEET. SO THE MAX TOTAL FLOOR AREA COULD RANGE FROM 843.75 SQUARE FEET TO 1349.33 SQUARE FEET. THAT SEEMS PRETTY RESTRICTIVE. UH, THESE ARE VERY SMALL LOTS AND, UM, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE ALLOWING THE, UH, ONE AND HALF STORY AS OPPOSED TO THREE STORIES BECAUSE THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT IS MOSTLY ONE AND A HALF STORY. WE'RE TALKING [04:00:01] ABOUT, UH, MOSTLY NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN THE LOOP AND, AND, UH, OUTSIDE OF THE LOOP, UH, THE LOTS GET MUCH BIGGER. AN 843 SQUARE FOOT, ONE AND A HALF STORY HOUSE SEEMS KIND OF UNREASONABLE ACTUALLY. UH, THAT'S WHAT'S EXISTING. UH, CURRENTLY, UH, THEY'RE NOT VERY LARGE 500 SQUARE FEET. UH, MAYBE 800, UH, ONE TO TWO BEDROOMS FOR THESE SIZE LOTS. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT SUBURBAN LOTS. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE DEFINITION. NOW, IF YOU WANNA INVITE THE OTHER PERSON UP. HELLO, UH, STEVE VERTI, 1 0 5 RENO STREET. UM, SO THE HALF STORY AMENDMENT, UH, UH, TIER ONE LEARNED OF THIS, UH, WHEN WE MET WITH D S D LAST YEAR AND THEY WENT OVER THEIR PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, THEY WERE PROPOSING A REVISION TO THE HALF STORY. UM, UH, THEIR INTENT WAS, WAS TO, UM, STRIKE SOME LANGUAGE THAT WAS DIFFICULT TO INTERPRET, UH, AROUND DORMERS. UM, THE INTENT, OUR INTENT WAS THAT RIGHT NOW THE LANGUAGES THAT EXISTED PREVIOUSLY ALLOWED, UH, REALLY WHAT WAS ESSENTIALLY A FULL STORY. SO IT HAD THE SAME PERIMETER FOOTPRINT FOR THE ENTIRE STORY, BUT IT WAS TECHNICALLY A HALF STORY BECAUSE OF INTERNAL SQUARE FOOTAGE CALCULATIONS BASED ON USABLE HABITABLE. BUT FROM THE OUTSIDE, IT LOOKED COMPLETELY LIKE A THIRD STORY. BUT THOSE WERE ALLOWED IN THE CODE TO BE A HALF STORY. SO WE THOUGHT THAT DIDN'T MEET THE INTENT OF, OF MOST ANYONE WHO WOULD TRY TO DEFINE A HALF STORY AND THAT IT NEEDED TO LOOK AND, AND, AND FEEL LIKE A HALF STORY. UM, IF, IF, IF THE INTENT WAS TO, FOR IT TO BE LESS MASSIVE, UH, IN, IN THE ZONING SITUATION WHERE THEY WERE RESTRICTING THAT, UM, THE, THE LANGUAGE WAS WORKED ON BY THREE DIFFERENT ARCHITECTS AND THEN WAS WORKED ON WITH D S D D S D REVIEWED THIS WITH, UH, SOME OTHER PEOPLE AS WELL. AND THERE WERE SEVERAL MEETINGS. THIS, THIS WAS THE LANGUAGE THAT CAME OUT OF THAT. UM, SO I THINK AGAIN, UH, THE INTENT IS, IS THAT YOU, THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE A LOOPHOLE WHERE YOU BUILD AN ENTIRE STORY AND SAY IT'S A HALF STORY. 'CAUSE IT TECHNICALLY, UM, WAS A HALF STORY EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A FULL STORY. SO THAT, THAT WAS THE INTENT. UM, IF, IF, DOES THAT, DOES THAT HELP? MM-HMM. , RIGHT? BUT MY POINT IS THAT DESIGN GUIDELINES BELONG IN NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT ORDINANCES. UH, WELL, I, LIKE I SAID THIS, THIS WAS WORKED ON WITH D S D AND I, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE GOT THAT ADVICE. UM, SO I, I I WOULD DEFER TO STAFF MAYBE. SO, SO I GUESS LET, LET ME KIND OF ADDRESS BOTH ITEMS. THE, THE R ONE DISTRICTS AS WELL AS THE HALF STORY DEFINITION. I'LL START WITH THE R ONE R TWO HEIGHT LIMITATIONS. SO IT WASN'T UNTIL 2018 THAT WE EVEN HAD AN R ONE AND AN R TWO BASED ZONING DISTRICT. UH, THOSE WERE A BYPRODUCTS OF THE INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE TASK FORCE. SO WE RECEIVED A C C R FROM CITY COUNCIL DIRECTING STAFF TO FORM A TASK FORCE AND COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS TO IMPROVE THE CITY'S INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE. AND WHAT WE FOUND UNSURPRISINGLY VERY QUICKLY, WAS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE SEEKING INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONING BECAUSE IT WAS THE ONLY ZONING DISTRICT IN THE CITY THAT ALLOWED YOU TO BUILD ON SOMETHING LESS THAN 3000 SQUARE FEET IF YOU WERE TRYING TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. SO ONE IMMEDIATE SOLUTION WAS, WELL, LET'S PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY WITH AN R ONE AND AN R TWO LOT. UM, WHEN WE HAD CREATED THOSE DISTRICTS AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, IT CARRIED OVER THE SAME MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF THE R FOUR, R FIVE, R SIX ZONING DISTRICTS, A MAXIMUM OF 35 FEET. UM, AS PART OF THIS U D C AMENDMENT PROCESS, WE HAVE FOLKS FROM THE TIER ONE NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION REACH OUT AND EXPRESS CONCERN THAT THAT TALL OF A BUILDING ON THAT SMALL OF A LOT DOES NOT FIT IN MANY OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND THAT WAS THEIR PRIMARY CONCERN. UH, WHEN WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN WITH THEM AND LOOK AT THEIR AMENDMENT INITIALLY, OUR IMMEDIATE CONCERN [04:05:01] WAS, ESPECIALLY ON A LOT THAT IS AS SMALL AS 1,250 SQUARE FEET, YOU CANNOT REASONABLY HAVE ONE AND A HALF STORIES AND PROVIDE AN OFF STREET PARKING SPACE BECAUSE THAT GROUND FLOOR IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE A GARAGE AND YOU CANNOT LIVE IN ONE HALF STORY. UH, SO THAT WAS ONE, UH, ITEM CARVED OUT TO AT LEAST MAKE IT DOABLE. UH, YOU'VE REMOVED THE OFF STREET PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR THE R ONE DISTRICT. THE OTHER ITEM THAT I WANT TO DRAW TO YOUR ATTENTION IS WHEN WE CREATED THE R ONE IN THE R TWO DISTRICT, WE INCLUDED A RELATIVELY UNIQUE PROVISION FOR THOSE TWO DISTRICTS SPECIFICALLY. AND THAT IS THAT THOSE HAVE TO BE REQUESTED INDIVIDUALLY CASE BY CASE. IF I WAS A DEVELOPER, I CANNOT SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO SEEKING TO REZONE 100 ACRES TO R ONE AND DIVIDE IT INTO A THOUSAND SMALL LOTS. SO IT IS INTENDED TO BE A REMEDY FOR A CASE BY CASE, BY CASE, UM, UH, SITUATION. I WOULD SAY I CAT WORKED IN ZONING FOR MANY YEARS. I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF WE HAD MORE THAN 15 PROPERTIES IN THE CITY ZONED R ONE. IT IS AN EXTREMELY UNCOMMON DISTRICT FOUR PROPERTY OWNERS THAT DO HAVE A UNIQUE PRODUCT. THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING ON A SMALL LOT. THEY WANT TO HAVE THREE AND A HALF OR FOUR. THEY CAN STILL SEEK INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE ZONING TO PERMIT SOMETHING TALLER. AGAIN, THE CONCERN WAS FOR, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY THAT WAS LEGALLY PLATTED IN 1931, SOMEONE SOLD THEIR BACKYARD IN 1955 AND YOU'VE GOT THIS SUPER TINY LOT. LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT ALLOWING SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO TOWER OVER PROPERTIES AROUND IT, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE AREA THAT WE SEE LOTS THAT SMALL IS IN THE INNER CITY, YOU DON'T TEND, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S IMPOSSIBLE, BUT IT IS MUCH LESS COMMON TO SEE LOTS OF THAT SIZE OUTSIDE LOOP FOUR 10. AS FAR AS THE DEFINITION OF HALF STORY IS CONCERNED, UH, AS WAS ALLUDED TO BY THE APPLICANT, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES PUT FORWARD A PROPOSED, UH, CHANGE TO THAT AMENDMENT IS, OR TO THAT DEFINITION AS WELL. THE EXISTING DEFINITION IS AT BEST CONFUSING. IT INCLUDES LANGUAGE THAT SAYS THAT A HALF STORY USUALLY HAS DORMER. YOU CAN'T USUALLY DO SOMETHING IN A REQUIREMENT. UH, SO WE, UH, WENT BACK AND FORTH OVER A COUPLE DIFFERENT ITERATIONS AND ENDED UP AT THIS DEFINITION, WHICH WE AGREE IS CLEARLY PRESCRIPTIVE IN WHAT IT IS SEEKING. UH, TO DEFINE A HALF STORY AS AGAIN, THE CONCERN SHARED BY MANY, UH, IN THE TIER ONE NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION, UH, AND OTHERS, IS THAT THE EXISTING DEFINITION, STANDING FROM THE STREET LOOKING AT IT LOOKS LIKE A THREE STORY BUILDING AND THAT IT WAS, UH, IT WAS NOT THE INTENT. UH, WE CALCULATE, UH, THE HALF STORY BASED ON HABITABLE SPACE ON THAT UPPERMOST STORY, BUT IT IS STILL A FLAT PLAIN WALL. IT LITERALLY, YOU CAN LOOK AT THE WINDOWS 1, 2, 3 LEVELS. SO WE AGREE THE DEFINITION NEEDS SOME WORK. AND THROUGH THE BACK AND FORTH WITH DSDS, LAND DEVELOPMENT DIVISION PLAN, REVIEW DIVISION, THE APPLICANT, THIS WAS THE VERSION THAT CAME ABOUT AS A RESULT. YOU ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? I, I'VE MADE ALL MY COMMENTS. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH, I HAVE ONE COMMENT. SO, UH, ON NOTE 14, YOU HAVE THIS, UH, DEFINITION FOR HALF STORY, BUT WE HAVE ANOTHER AMENDMENT 16 FIVE, WHICH HAS THE EXACT SAME DEFINITION. SHOULDN'T WE JUST HAVE IT IN ONE PLACE THAT WAS DISCUSSED? WE AGREED TO LEAVE IT UNDERNEATH THAT TABLE JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY ZONING DISTRICTS THAT ALLOW YOU TO HAVE A HALF STORY, THAT IT IS SOMEWHAT BENEFICIAL TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THAT NOTE, UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS WITHOUT GOING INTO A DIFFERENT APPENDIX. SO LET'S, GOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU. I, I WILL ALSO, JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A HUNDRED PERCENT BLUE TEXT IN NOTE 14. YOU'RE LOOKING AT A MIX OF BLUE AND BLACK TEXT. AND THAT'S BECAUSE IN THE APPENDIX WE'RE ADDING TO SOMETHING THAT ALREADY EXISTS, WHEREAS PLACING THE NOTE HERE IS ENTIRELY NEW TO THE CODE. THAT'S WHY IT APPEARS DIFFERENT IN TWO DIFFERENT PLACES. ALRIGHT, CHAIR, SIR. I KNOW THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED BOTH OF THESE ITEMS TOGETHER. UH, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE 16 DASH FIVE RELATED TO MODIFYING THE SECOND STORY DEFINITION LOOK, AND, AND A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO INCLUDE 16 DASH ONE AS WELL. I'M REALLY SEPARATING THE TWO, SO I JUST WANTED TO WORK ON A SECOND STORY [04:10:01] AMENDMENT. CAN YOU REPEAT THAT, COUNCILMAN? YOUR MOTION IS FOR WHAT? MY MOTION IS THAT WE APPROVE 16 FIVE RELATED TO THE MODIFICATION OF HALF STORY DEFINITION. WHAT WE HAVE THAT MODIFICATION 16 FIVE. OKAY. OH, I SEE. TO, TO, YEAH, I GOTCHA. MAKES SENSE. SECOND. OKAY. AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WAS AGREED TO WITH D S D, THAT THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. THE LANGUAGE AS WRITTEN IS IT'S, THANK YOU. IT'S SPECIFIC, BUT ENFORCEABLE. ALL RIGHT. SO THERE'S A MOTION ON 16 FIVE BY COUNCILMAN COURAGE TO PROVE WITH THE AMENDED AMENDMENT CHANGES WHAT'S WRITTEN TO WHAT'S CORRECT. SECOND, WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN. YEAH. SECOND BY VICE CHAIR, UH, HANES, WE TAKE A VOTE. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? NO. COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YES. COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM? NO. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE. UH, COUNCILMAN COURAGE? YES. COMMISSIONER PECK? YES. COMMISSIONER CARILLO HAYES? YES. CHAIR, PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. OKAY. AND THEN WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON 16 ONE. MR. CHAIR? YES. MOVE TO APPROVE AMENDMENT 16. ONE. OKAY. SECOND, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE 16. ONE BY COMMISSIONER BUSTANI. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PECK. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? NO. COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YES. COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE. AYE. COUNCILMAN COURAGE? YES. COMMISSIONER PECK? YES. COMMISSIONER CREO HAYES? YES. CHAIR, PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. SEVEN ONE IS NEXT ON THE DOCKET AMENDMENT. SEVEN DASH ONE IS RELATED TO FEES IN LIEU OF PARKLAND DEDICATION. IT WAS SUBMITTED BY THE CITY'S PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE. UH, GOOD EVENING. UH, GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS ROCKY DU DERA WITH THE, UH, PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. UM, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT THAT YOU SEE WHEREBY WE, UH, UM, UH, PROPOSE ELIMINATING THE, UH, DISTANCE, THE PERIPHERAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SPENDING OF THE FEE AND LOSE, UH, COMES IN RESPONSE, UH, TO, UH, A VARIETY OF, UH, ITEMS. NAMELY THAT OVER THE YEARS SINCE THE PARK DEDICATION ORDINANCE WAS UH, IMPLEMENTED, UH, PARK STAFF HAS AT TIMES FACED CHALLENGES IDENTIFYING, UH, CITY PARKS OR SUITABLE PARK LAND, UH, WITHIN THE, UH, THE FOUR MILE PERIPHERY OVERALL. UM, IN ADDITION, UM, IN AN ATTEMPT, UH, TO SUPPORT THE SAN ANTONIO PARK SYSTEM PLAN, WHICH WAS ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL IN 2019, WHICH, UM, UH, RECOMMENDS THE, UH, ADDITION OF, UH, THE ACQUIRING THROUGH DONATION OR, OR ACQUISITION OF ADDITIONAL PARK SPACE. UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO, UM, EXPAND OUR PARK SYSTEM, PARTICULARLY, UH, TO ADDRESS, UM, THE 10 MINUTE WALK, UH, SCORE, UM, THAT, UM, THAT THE TRUST FOR PUBLICLY ON HAS GRANTED US, UH, OR, UH, ASSIGN TO US THIS YEAR. UH, SO WHAT ONE OF OUR GOALS, IN ADDITION TO THE, A RESULT OF WANTING TO ACQUIRE ADDITIONAL PARK SPACE AS UH, RECOMMENDED IN THE SYSTEM PLAN, IS TO PROVIDE MORE 10 MINUTE MORE PEDESTRIAN, 10 MINUTE WALK ACCESS TO OUR CITIZENS, UM, UM, THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND, UM, IDENTIFY MEASURES TO IN WHICH TO DO THAT, OR OPPORTUNITIES TO PROVIDE THAT ADDITIONAL PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY PARK SPACE. SO BY LOOSENING UP, UH, THE, UH, THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS, UH, FOR THE, HOW WE SPEND THE FEE AND L DOLLARS, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO, UH, EXPAND OUR PARK SYSTEM TO PROVIDE A MORE ACCESSIBLE SYSTEM OF PARKS TO OUR CITIZENS, UH, AS WELL AS, UM, SUPPORT, UH, THE GOALS AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF OUR SYSTEM PLAN. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO. ALRIGHT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION CHAIR. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. UH, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UH, EXISTING PARKLAND, ARE WE ALSO TALKING ABOUT THE GREENWAY TRAILS? COULD THIS MONEY BE DEDICATED TO IMPROVING THE GREENWAY TRAIL SYSTEM? IT COULD BE UTILIZED HYPOTHETICALLY TO COMPLEMENT THE, UH, THE SYSTEM, UH, THE HOWARD PEAK SYSTEM PROGRAM? YES, SIR. YEAH, GOOD. BECAUSE THAT'S GETTING [04:15:01] CLOSER AND CLOSER TO MORE PEOPLE THAN REGULAR PARKS ARE. YES, SIR. SO IT SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE. YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, COMMENT. UH, SO YOU COLLECTED THE FEES FROM CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU COLLECTED THE FEES FROM CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU GOT IN. THE FEES ARE COLLECTED FROM WHEN A DEVELOPER, WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY IS DEVELOPING A RES, UH, A RESIDENTIAL PLAN, WHETHER IT BE MULTI-FAMILY OR SINGLE FAMILY, UH, IN CERTAIN AREAS. THEY, UH, IN ORDER TO MEET THEIR PARK DEDICATION REQUIREMENT AS MANDATED BY THE PARK DEDICATION ORDINANCE, UH, IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS THEY, UH, WHERE THEY MAY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PAY INTO THIS FEE AND LIE AS OPPOSED TO PROVIDE, UH, ACREAGE AND AMENITIES WITHIN THEIR DEVELOPMENT. UM, IT'S BEEN A MINUTE SINCE I'VE, UM, READ THE SPECIFICS TO WHAT, HOW THEY QUALIFY, BUT IT'S AN ALTERNATE, LIKE, LIKE THE TREE MITIGATION FUND IN SOME CASES. I MEAN, NOT TO COMPARE APPLES TO ORANGES, BUT IN CASES WHERE, UH, THEY QUALIFY THE, THE DEVELOPERS, UH, THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PAY INTO, UH, THE PARK FEE IN LIE AS OPPOSED TO PROVIDING, UH, LAND AND OR, UH, AMENITIES WITHIN THEIR DEVELOPMENT. AND THIS IS A DEFINITION FOR WHAT IS A PARKLAND MEANS, RIGHT? WITHIN THE PARK? DEDICATION ORDINANCE, YEAH. YES. THERE IS A DEFINITION WE HAVE IN THE U D C THAT DEFINE WHAT A PARKLAND IS. YEAH. OPEN SPACE, GREEN SPACE THAT CAN BE UTILIZED BY THE, UM, UH, BY THE COMMUNITY FOR RECREATIONAL PURPOSES. OKAY. YES, SIR. DOES A 10 MINUTE WALK, UM, ENCOMPASS HANDICAP ACCESSIBILITY? DOES A 10 MINUTE WALK ENCOMP? UM, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IT DOES, IT HAS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, UH, UM, A D A STANDARDS. UH, SO THIS WALK, UM, WE HA UH, THE 10 MINUTE WALK HAS TO BE IN A PEDESTRIAN, UH, A D A FRIENDLY, UH, CONTEXT, SIR. A AS I UNDERSTAND IT SIDEWALK, YOU KNOW, THERE HAS TO BE THE APP APPROPRIATE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE FOR, UM, FOR USERS OF ALL OF ABILITIES, UH, RESIDENTS OF ALL ABILITIES TO ACCESS THE, UH, PARK LANDR. OKAY. SO, UM, I WAS, THE COMMISSIONER HAD REQUEST THIS ONE PULLED, AND THE, MY LINE OF QUESTIONING ON THIS WAS IS, UH, IF, IF, IF YOU HAVE A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT NEEDS TO HAVE PARK LAND PER ORDINANCE, AND THEY INVOKED TO PAY A FEE INSTEAD OF PROVIDING IT, WHICH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS YOU DO IN FOUR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, YOU'RE, YOU'RE PAYING A FEE IF YOU DO THREE OR LESS, YOU, YOU, YOU ROUND DOWN AND THERE IS NO FEE. SO, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT I WAS CONCERNED WITH IS THAT IF, IF YOU'VE GOT THESE, UH, SCATTERED SMALL DEVELOPMENTS AND PEOPLE ARE PAYING THESE FEES, UH, I, I'D LIKE TO SEE PARKS WITHIN THAT 10 MINUTE WALK OR EVEN A 20 MINUTE WALK FOR THEM TO USE INSTEAD OF HAVING TO DRIVE ACROSS TOWN OR SOMETHING. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I WAS, I, I WASN'T A FAN OF, OF REMOVING THIS. I WAS MORE OPEN TO INCREASING IT. MM-HMM. EVEN DOUBLING IT, CHANGE THE ONE TO TWO MILES, CHANGE THE TWO MILES TO FOUR MILES, CHANGE THE FOUR MILES TO EIGHT MILES, I THINK THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD HELP YOUR DEPARTMENT OUT AND, AND FINDING LOCATION TO SPEND THE MONEY. BUT IT WOULD REMOVE THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE SOMEONE BUILD ON ONE PART OF TOWN AND THEN USE THE MONEY AND LIKE CLEAN OUR COMPLETE OPPOSITE PART OF TOWN WOULD, AND COMPLETELY AVOIDING THE INTENT OF, OF, OF THIS WHOLE SECTION. ANYWAY. SO WHAT, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? WELL, MY THOUGHTS ARE, I WOULD HOPE, UM, THAT THE SPIRIT OF THE, UH, ITEM AS IT'S WRITTEN NOW WITHOUT THE REVISIONS WOULD BE FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO STILL PRIORITIZE OPPORTUNITIES, WHETHER IT BE FOR ACQUISITION OR IMPROVEMENTS TO EXISTING PARKS AS CLOSE TO THAT DEVELOPMENT, UH, UH, IS LOCATED. THAT WAS WHY I, I WAS, I WAS MORE INTERESTED IN KEEPING THE LANGUAGE AS IS, BUT JUST DOUBLING MM-HMM. , UH, THE DISTANCES. AND I THINK THAT SERVES THAT PURPOSE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, BUT, BUT ALSO KEEPS THE INTENT. SO I'M JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE. DO, DO YOU KNOW WHAT DIFFERENCE THAT WOULD MAKE IF YOU WERE TO DOUBLE IT? DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE OF THAT WITHOUT DOING ANY, UH, RESEARCH OR STUDY? I REALLY COULDN'T. UM, I COULDN'T SPECULATE HOW THAT WOULD POSITIVELY IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO SPEND THE MONEY. MA'AM, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UM, THE MONEY THAT IF THEY DON'T ACTUALLY, WHAT IS THE SIZE REQUIREMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT TO HAVE PARKLAND OR OPEN SPACE? THE SIZE DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS OF THE, UM, RIGHT. THE DEVELOPMENT. OH, THE DEVELOPMENTS, I APOLOGIZE. I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE REQUIREMENTS. I KNOW IT'S, IT'S BASED ON PARCEL. I MEAN, AMOUNT OF UNITS TO BE DEVELOPED, UH, PER, UH, DEVELOPMENT. YOU DIVIDE THE NUMBER OF UNITS BY 70 FOR MULTIFAMILY, YOU DIVIDED BY 1 1 14, [04:20:02] I BELIEVE. YES. AND THEN YOU GO DOWN TO A 10TH OF AN ACRE AND THEN YOU CAN USE CERTAIN THINGS, UH, LIKE A POOL, GIVE YOU SO MUCH A, UH, TENNIS COURTS, THAT SORT OF STUFF. YOU'RE ALLOTTED A CERTAIN YEAH. CREDIT TOWARDS THAT PARKED EDUCATION REQUIREMENT, UH, PER THE AMOUNT OF ACREAGE THAT YOU PROVIDE. AND, UH, BY THE AMENITIES AS WELL, GET YOU TO WHATEVER THE CALCULATED, UH, PARK DEDICATION REQUIREMENT IS FOR THAT SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT. AND IN LIEU OF THAT, THEY CAN PAY INTO THIS FUND. YES. AND, AND PARKS DEPARTMENT CAN BUILD A PARK WHEREVER THEY DEEMED NECESSARY UNDER IF WE CHANGE IT. YEAH. WE COULD UTILIZE, WELL, WE COULD, YEAH. WE COULD ACQUIRE PROPERTY FOR, UH, NEW PARKS OR MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO EXISTING PARKS, UH, UH, UH, OUTSIDE OF THE, UH, THE RESTRICT THE PERIPHERAL RESTRICTIONS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND HOW MUCH OF THE BUDGET COMES FROM FEE AND AS OPPOSED TO, UH, CITY BONDS OR, WELL, I CAN TELL YOU FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IN TALKING TO STAFF, THAT TYPICALLY 75 TO 80% OF THE TIME, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY MEETS THEIR REQUIREMENTS BY PROVIDING THE, UH, PARK SPACE AND, AND AMENITIES AT THEIR RESPECTIVE DEVELOPMENTS. UH, SO THERE AREN'T A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEND THE FEE AND LOOP BECAUSE THEY'RE MEETING THEIR REQUIREMENTS ON SITE, UH, UH, WITH THOSE LIMITED FUNDS. WE'RE LOOKING TO, UH, EXPAND THE WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN, UH, BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY. AND CHAIRMAN, I'LL, I'LL CHIME IN. THE FEE IN LIEU OF LAND DEDICATION OPTIONAL IN LIEU OF THE DEDICATION, THE REQUIRED PARK LAND, UH, SO THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION CONTAINS LESS THAN 210 DWELLING UNITS, AND THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION INCLUDES MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND LIES WITHIN LOOP FOUR 10. RIGHT. OR THE APPLICANTS MAY MEET UP TO 50% OF THE DEDICATION REQUIREMENT THROUGH PAYMENT FEE AND LIE WHEN IT'S BETWEEN 200 TWIN DWELLING UNITS, 210 DWELLING UNITS AND 350 DWELLING UNITS, ANY PROPOSED SUBDIVISION EXCEEDING 350 DWELLING UNITS MAY NOT PAY THE FEE IN LIE. SO THE POTENTIAL BENEFIT IS MORE MONEY INTO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. UH, THE, I THINK THE POTENTIAL BENEFIT IS WE CAN HAVE MORE WAYS TO UTILIZE THOSE FUNDINGS THAT ARE, UH, THAT, THAT THOSE, THOSE OPPORTUNITIES WHEN THEY DO PAY INTO THE FEE AND LOW, UM, POSSIBLE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES IS COMMISSIONER OR SAID IS THAT THUS ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT OCCURS AND THERE'S NO PARKS OR NOT WITHIN 10 MINUTES. RIGHT. SO I, I DON'T KNOW, UH, THE BEST WAY TO KIND OF RESOLVE THAT. YEAH. WHEN MY, A LOT OF THIS COMES FROM WHEN WE DO SMALLER RESIDENTIAL, IT'S, IT, THERE'S A POINT WHERE IT'S CHEAPER TO PAY THE FEE, BUT IT'S NOT THAT MUCH. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU WE'RE DOING ONE WITH 40 UNITS, WE'RE NOT PAYING THE FEE. IT'S CHEAPER TO PUT A COUPLE PICNIC TABLES IN A BARBECUE PIT, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, BUT IF YOU'RE PAYING THE FEE ON, ON FOUR LOTS, IT MIGHT BE $18,000. MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY WHEN YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT FOUR LOTS, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO PARK, YOU KNOW, AND, AND YOU'RE JUST GONNA PAY THE FEE. BUT IF YOU'RE DEVELOPING LAND ON, ON A SMALLER SCALE, WHICH IS REALLY WHERE I THINK PEOPLE ARE PAYING THE FEE, THEN THERE'S, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF OPTIONS FOR THEM TO GO. AND SO YOU GOTTA LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE CITY, WHERE DO WE HAVE THESE SMALL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPERS? AND THEY MAY, THEY MAY BE INNER CITY BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY SO MANY SPORADIC, VACANT LOTS LAYING AROUND, AND YOU'D WANT THAT MONEY TO GO THERE AS MUCH AS YOU'D WANT IT TO GO TO WHEREVER THAT DEVELOPMENT IS. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW, DOUBLING IT IS A GREAT START. I THINK IT GIVES YOU A LOT MORE TOOLS TO, TO USE THE MONEY, AND AT LEAST IT'S ACCOMPLISHING SOME OF THAT GOAL. SO AGAIN, JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE. WELL, AT THIS POINT, I MEAN, WELL, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IN, IN, UH, I GUESS MAYBE MY THOUGHT IS IF WE APPROVE IT AS IS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WE CAN GET REPORTS BACK AND AS WE LOOK AT THE NEXT G D C, IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE THINK WE NEED TO GO A DIFFERENT ROUTE, THEN WE CAN DO THAT. SO I'LL ENTERTAIN THE MOTION. WELL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I'M, I MOVE TO, UH, UH, MOVE FORWARD AMENDMENT SEVEN DASH ONE, KEEPING IT EXACTLY THE WAY IT IS, BUT DOUBLING THE, THE, THE THREE DIFFERENT MILE, UM, UH, DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS. ONE MILE TO TWO MILE, TWO MILE TO FOUR MILE, FOUR MILE TO EIGHT MILE. I'M NOT HEARING A SECOND, UH, THAT I'LL ENTERTAIN ANOTHER MOTION. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT AS IS, UM, JUST WITH A CAVEAT THAT IT'D BE KIND OF LOOKED AT AS WE GO ALONG. AND, AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DATA RIGHT NOW TO MAKE THAT CHANGE, I DON'T THINK, TO SEE HOW IT WOULD AFFECT AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, HOW IT WOULD BENEFIT YOU. BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP YOUR EYE ON OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS. AND IF NEED BE, WE CAN COME BACK AND CHANGE IT AGAIN. BUT I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT THE WAY IT IS. SECOND MOTION TO [04:25:01] PROVE BY, UH, COMMISSIONER PECK, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MILAM. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL. YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI. YES. COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER. YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM. YES. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? NO. UM, COMM UM, COUNCILMAN COURAGE? YES. UM, COMMISSIONER PECK? YES. COMMISSIONER CARILLO HAYNES? YES. CHAIR, PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. UH, ONTO ITEM 20 DASH SIX, AMENDMENT 20 DASH SIX IS RELATED TO THE HISTORIC AND DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION AND CREATION OF THE COMPLIANCE AND TECHNICAL ADVISORY BOARD. THIS AMENDMENT WAS SUBMITTED BY THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION. UH, IT RECEIVED A RECOMMENDATION, APPROVAL OF APPROVAL WITH SOME MINOR EDITS FROM THE H D R C. UH, THE, UH, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UH, BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THE NEED TO CHANGE. I THINK IT'S JUST ONE OR TWO WORDS. I'M GONNA LET, UH, UM, MATT GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE THAT PARTICULAR AMENDMENT. SURE. YES. OUR, OUR EDIT THAT WE RECOMMEND IS FOR WHAT YOU SEE HIGHLIGHTED RIGHT THERE. UM, IT'S JUST FOR CLARITY'S SAKE, WHENEVER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE MEMBERS AND HOW THEY'RE ALTERNATES OF THE H D R C AND THAT LAST, UH, THAT LAST LINE OF, WHAT IS THAT C ONE? WE'RE JUST REMOVING THE WORD MAY. THAT WAY WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE, THE ALTERNATE MEMBERS AS A REQUIREMENT TO SERVE AND THAT THEY MAY ALSO SERVE. DOES THAT MEAN WE'RE DONE THE TRAIN? UH, ALL RIGHT. UH, TAKE A MOTION UNLESS THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER SIEGEL. I'M SORRY. WAS THAT COUNCILMAN SECOND FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AS AMENDED AND PRESENTED? YEP. MOTION TO APPROVE AS AMENDED? YES. YEAH. MOTION TO APPROVE AS AMENDED. OKAY. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL. YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YES. COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE. AYE. COUNCILMAN COURAGE? YES. COMMISSIONER PECK? YES. COMMISSIONER CREO HAYES. YES. COM CHAIR, PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. ALL RIGHT. 28 2 AMENDMENT 28 DASH TWO IS RELATED TO PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY ACCESSIBILITY DURING WORK SESSION. THIS WAS REQUESTED TO BE PULLED FOR SOME, UH, EDITS, UH, FROM THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION. WE ALSO HAVE STAFF FROM THE DISABILITY ACCESS OFFICE, AND WE'VE GONE AHEAD AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PULL UP THAT, UH, THAT PROPOSED CHANGE. GOOD EVENING. I'M VIRGINIA PAONE WITH THE DISABILITY ACCESS OFFICE. HI THERE. AND, UM, WHAT OUR OFFICE DID WAS PROVIDE, UH, AN ADDITION, UM, TO SECTION 35 0 1 BY ADDING THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY SECTION. UM, AND WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS INCLUDE IN ADDITION TO, EXCUSE ME FOR ONE MINUTE. IN ADDITION TO INFRASTRUCTURE, ADD THE PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY, AND WE BASED THIS ADDITION ON, ONE OF THE REASONS WAS TO FORMALIZE WHAT WE PRACTICE ALREADY WITH THE CITY, UH, PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT BY USING THEIR, UH, DESIGN GUIDE MANUAL. UH, AND THIS DESIGN GUIDE MANUAL ALREADY INCLUDES THAT PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WASTE SECTION WHERE, UM, A DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE AN OPTION TO USE EITHER THE TEXAS ACCESSIBILITY STANDARDS OR THE PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY ACCESSIBILITY GUIDELINES, UH, AS A CHOICE FOR THEIR PARTICULAR PROJECT. WE DID RUN INTO A PROBLEM, HOWEVER, AFTER OUR INITIAL SUBMITTAL, AND THAT WAS, UM, WHEN COMMISSIONER ORION MENTIONED TO US THAT THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH THAT PARTICULAR VERBIAGE DUE TO A POSSIBLE, UM, WAY THAT A DEVELOPER COULD AVOID ACTUALLY COMMITTING TO THE TEXAS ACCESSIBILITY STANDARDS OF PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. THERE WERE CHANGES TO TWO DIFFERENT, UM, TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODES THAT IMPACTED THIS PARTICULAR SECTION. AND THE ONE THAT'S MOST RELEVANT, I'M JUST GONNA READ A VERY SMALL PART OF IT TO YOU, IS THAT ORIGI, IT ORIGINALLY INCLUDED UP TO 2005 A SECTION THAT SAID THAT BUILDING FACILITIES SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE TEXAS ACCESSIBILITY STANDARDS INCLUDED THOSE CONSTRUCTED WITH PRIVATE FUNDS WITH THE INTENT OF DONATING OR DEEDING TO THE PUBLIC ENTITY. AFTER 2005, THAT PARTICULAR SECTION WAS REMOVED FROM THE TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE. AND SO WE DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING WRITTEN TO, TO ENSURE THAT A DEVELOPER WOULD MAKE A [04:30:01] SELECTION OF THE TEXAS ACCESSIBILITY STANDARDS OR THE PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY AS PART OF THEIR PROJECT, UH, COMPLIANCE. AND SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE ADDED TO THIS PARTICULAR SECTION A SENTENCE THAT SAYS, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S EVEN UP THERE. YES. INCLUDING THOSE FUNDED IN WHOLE OR IN PART WITH PRIVATE FUNDS THAT WOULD ENSURE THAT PARTICULAR VERBIAGE WOULD ENSURE THAT WHETHER THE PROJECT WAS FUNDED PRIVATELY OR PUBLICLY, THAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD SELECT EITHER THE TEXAS ACCESSIBILITY STANDARDS TO COMPLY WITH OR PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY. SO THAT WAS A CHANGE THAT WE RECOMMENDED BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATION. I, SORRY, . VERY GOOD. SO DOES THAT, DOES, IS THAT COVER, AND THEN YOU ALSO, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? YEAH. AND YOU ALSO RAN THAT, YOU, YOU, YOU ALSO CONTACTED T D L R AND THEY VERIFIED THAT YES, WE DID. SO WE DID CONTACT TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING AND REGULATION AND THEY SUPPORTED THAT ADDITIONAL VERBIAGE TO THIS TO ENSURE THAT THE COMPLIANCE WOULD BE WITH EITHER THE TEXAS ACCESSIBILITY STANDARDS OR WITH THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. AND JUST TO CLARIFY THAT WHAT WE'RE SEEING ON THE SCREEN HAS PUBLIC RIGHT TO WAY . I DON'T, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAD IN OH PACKAGE. I DON'T KNOW. WE JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE THAT CORRECTION. YES. AND MAY I JUST ADD ONE OTHER THING FOR THAT RIGHT AWAY? UM, IT ALSO SHOULD BE FOLLOWED BY, UM, ACCESSIBILITY GUIDELINES, JUST LIKE PRO AG. SO IT SHOULD BE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, UH, ACCESSIBILITY GUIDELINES SO THAT IT ACTUALLY REPRESENTS THE PRO AG. CAN WE MAKE THOSE CHANGES? ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. YOU WANTED TO SAY ACCESSIBILITY GUIDELINES AFTER THIS, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT AFTER THE, YES. THAT CORRECTION. AND THEN SO THAT IT ACTUALLY REPRESENTS PRO AG. YES. I MOVE TO ACCEPT 28 DASH TWO AS AMENDED. SECOND. OUR, UH, MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE WITH THE, UH, EDITS BY COMMISSIONER ORIAN. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PECK. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL. YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI. YES. COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE. AYE. UM, COUNCILMAN COURAGE? YES. COMMISSIONER PECK? YES. COMMISSIONER CREO HAYNES. YES. CHAIR, PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. 24 1 AMENDMENT 24 DASH ONE IS RELATED TO BICYCLE FACILITIES. IT WAS, UH, SUBMITTED BY THE CITY'S TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT. UH, WE DO HAVE STAFF FROM THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT HERE. UH, THIS ITEM WAS PULLED, UH, DURING WORK SESSION, UH, FOR THE REQUEST TO CHANGE A LITTLE BIT OF LANGUAGE, WHICH WE HAVE UP ON THE SCREEN. DO YOU WANNA OH, COMMENTS? WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION. OKAY. OH, MOVE TO BE THAT WE ACCEPT IT WITH THE AMENDMENTS. SECOND. OKAY. UH, MOTION TO ACCEPT WITH THE EDITS FROM COMMISSIONER SIEGEL SEC MYELOMA. I'LL GET THAT RIGHT AT SOME POINT. A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YES. COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER BUS MONTE AYE. COUNCILMAN COURAGE? YES. COMMISSIONER PECK? YES. COMMISSIONER CREO HAYNES? YES. CHAIR, PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. ALRIGHT. 27 3. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. COFFEE HAS RETURNED JUST IN TIME FOR AMENDMENT 27 DASH THREE. UH, THIS, UH, THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT WAS SUBMITTED BY THE, UH, PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. WE DO HAVE, UH, STAFF PRESENT. UH, AGAIN, THIS ITEM WAS, UH, REQUESTED TO BE PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL, UH, CONSIDERATION JUST FOR SOME DISCUSSION. WE DID NOT HAVE ANY, UH, LANGUAGE, SO TO SPEAK, TO, UH, TO PUT UP ON THE SCREEN, DIFFERENT THAN WHAT TACT, UH, PREVIOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS, SABRINA SANTIAGO, PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON SOME OF THESE AMENDMENTS HERE THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED, UM, SPECIFICALLY PERTAINING TO THE 2000 FOOT ADVERSE IMPACT. UM, THIS LANGUAGE HAS, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, BEEN IN THE CODE FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND, AND WAS PRETTY MUCH ARBITRARY. UM, DIDN'T REALLY HAVE MUCH ENGINEERING BACKGROUND AS TO WHY WE WENT TO 2000 FEET DOWNSTREAM. SO WE ARE GOING WITH [04:35:01] INDUSTRY STANDARDS. UM, WHAT YOU SEE HERE PROPOSED IN FRONT OF YOU. UM, MORE SPECIFICALLY, UM, LOOKING AT A WATERSHED APPROACH TO DOING YOUR ADVERSE IMPACT ANALYSES. UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT BEFORE I BORE YOU WITH ANY TECHNICAL ? ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? NO QUESTIONS. I'D JUST LIKE TO KIND OF FOLLOW UP AND JUST SAY THAT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THE 2000 FEET WAS COMPLETELY ARBITRARY. I THINK SOMEONE PULLED IT OUT OF THE AIR TO BE POLITICALLY CORRECT, AND I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS WHOLE THING WENT THROUGH A DETAILED REVIEW BY SUBCOMMITTEES, YOU KNOW, EVEN PRIOR TO COVID, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS MM-HMM. , UM, WENT THROUGH A SUBCOMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE SECTOR ENGINEERS, THE CITY EVERY, YOU KNOW, ALL THE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS. AND EVERYBODY WAS COMFORTABLE WITH THIS LANGUAGE ON THAT SIDE. SO I THINK, UH, IT'S GOOD TO GO IN MY OPINION. SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PECK. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BUS. YES. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YES. COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE. AYE. COUNCILMAN COURAGE? YES. COMMISSIONER PECK? YES. COMMISSIONER CREO. HANES. YES. CHAIR PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. ALRIGHT. FIVE 16. ALRIGHT, AMENDMENT FIVE DASH 16 IS RELATED TO OVERSIZED VEHICLES. THIS AMENDMENT WAS SUBMITTED BY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, SPECIFICALLY OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT GROUP. UH, THERE WAS, UH, SOME BRIEF DISCUSSION ABOUT SOME CHANGED LANGUAGE CARVING OUT AN EXCEPTION OR CLARIFYING, YOU KNOW, BOATS, THAT SORT OF STUFF. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PULL THAT TEXT UP ON THE SCREEN. UH, AND WE DO ALSO HAVE, UH, MICHAEL ESI, CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER HERE TO PRESENT THIS ITEM AS WELL. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. UH, MY NAME IS MICHAEL ES, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MANAGER WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT. AND, UH, WE'RE JUST ADDING THE WORDING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE LAST MEETING WE HAD. UM, IN ADDITION TO THE CRITERIA ABOVE BOATS ARE RECREATIONAL VEHICLES AND THEN WE, UM, ADDED IT AT THE BOTTOM, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, HIGHLIGHTED OR, AND STRUCK OR BOAT. SO THAT WAY WE COULD, UM, INCLUDE BOATS INTO RECREATION VEHICLE DEFINITION. ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS? IS THAT HOW WE WANTED IT? I HAVE A QUESTION. UH, HOW WILL THIS, UH, CHANGE AFFECT PEOPLE WHO ARE, UM, FOOD TRUCK ENTREPRENEURS AND PARKING THEIR VEHICLES IN THEIR DRIVEWAYS? WE CURRENTLY HAVE THIS CODE ON THE, UM, ON THE BOOKS ALREADY. SO WE'RE CURRENTLY ENFORCING THAT ON THEM TO, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PARK IT IF IT'S CONSIDERED AN OVERSIZED VEHICLE. SO IT'S NOT GONNA EXCLUDE THEM NOW. THEY, I MEAN, IT'S NOT GONNA SAY, OH, WE'RE GONNA GO ENFORCE ON THEM NOW. WE'RE ALREADY DOING THAT. THANK YOU. YEP. ANYONE ELSE? YEAH. YEAH. I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE 400 SQUARE FEET OR LESS, IS THERE A, IS THERE AN RV THAT'S MORE THAN 400 SQUARE FEET? , ? I DO NOT KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. JUST, I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YES, LOGAN SAYS YES, . OKAY. SHOULD THAT BE INCLUDED SOMEHOW IN HERE OR SOMETHING? LOGAN HAS ONE. IT ISN'T, GO AHEAD. I MEAN, A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH WILL TELL YOU THERE ARE 400 SQUARE FOOT RVS. I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MAX, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BIGGEST RV ON THE MARKET IS. UM, I GUESS WONDERING THAT'S, THAT IS, THAT'S LANGUAGE THAT IS IN THE CODE TODAY. I ASSUME IT'S PROBABLY BEEN THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME. I I ONLY ASK BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE AN RV OVER 400, NORMALLY IT WOULD MOVE INTO THE OVERSIZED VEHICLE CATEGORY, BUT NOW WE'RE SAYING THEY ARE NOT CONSIDERED OVERSIZED VEHICLE. RIGHT. SO IF IT'S, IF SOMEBODY HAS AN RV THAT'S 420 SQUARE FEET, DOES THAT MEAN THEY, THEY FALL NOWHERE AND THEY CAN PARK IT WHEREVER THEY WANT? THAT'S WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT IS, IS THE INTENT TO ALLOW THEM TO PARK AN RV NO MATTER WHAT THE SIZE IS. THE INTENT OF THE CODE, I THINK, IS TO LET THEM PARK AN RV. RIGHT. BECAUSE IT'S A RECREATIONAL VEHICLE. SO, YEAH. SO WITH, WITH THESE CHANGES THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO PARK A 401 SQUARE FOOT, WELL, THE CHANGES ARE ALLOWING TO, UH, ALLOWING THEM TO, UM, PARK A BOAT RIGHT. TO CLASSIFY THE, UH, CLASSIFY IT AS A RECREATIONAL VEHICLE, SPECIFICALLY CARVE IT OUT. RIGHT. I THINK EVEN IF, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER RECREATIONAL VEHICLE IS OVER 400 SQUARE FEET, THIS DEFINITION EXCLUDES THAT. SO IT WOULD STILL FALL WITHIN OVERSIZED [04:40:01] VEHICLE. RIGHT. I I, I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE YOU'RE ALMOST CREATING A, A GAP IN BETWEEN TWO DEFINITIONS. AGAIN, WHAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS IF, IF THE INTENT IS TO ALLOW A RECREATIONAL VEHICLE, AN RV TO PARK ON A PROPERTY, THEN PERHAPS WE NEED TO USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT THAT 400 SQUARE FOOT LIMITATION IS WE HAVE TO, FOR THE RECORD, I WAS ABLE TO DISCOVER THAT WILL SMITH HAS AN RV THAT'S 1200 SQUARE FEET, JUST TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW. OH, WOW. DANG. THAT'S SLIGHTLY BIGGER THAN YOURS, RIGHT? YEAH. . SO, UM, MR. CHAIR, I, I THINK MY POINT WOULD BE, LOOK, YOU'VE DEFINED RECREATIONAL VEHICLE, AND SO IF IT DOESN'T MEET THAT DEFINITION, THEN IT'S NOT A RECREATIONAL VEHICLE AND IT COULD STILL BE AN OVERSIZED VEHICLE. AND SO THIS NO, BECAUSE THE DEFINITION OF RECREATIONAL VEHICLE IS SET FORTH HERE. RIGHT. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT, WHAT WE THINK OF AS A RECREATIONAL VEHICLE, THAT'S WHAT IT'S, IT'S DEFINED RIGHT THERE. AND SO THAT'S THE LIMIT OF RECREATIONAL VEHICLE. AND SO SOMETHING THAT IS OVER 400 SQUARE FEET COULD STILL BE AN OVERSIZED VEHICLE. AND THIS STILL APPLIES. YES. I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I, I JUST READ, I'M LOOKING. YEAH. OKAY. MAYBE, MAYBE EVEN PUT RECREATIONAL VEHICLES AS DEFINED IN THIS SECTION. I DON'T KNOW. I'M SO, SO ACCORDING TO THIS, IT SAYS THE MAXIMUM SIZE OF A TRAVEL TRAILER IN THE NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION STANDARDS FOR RECREATIONAL VEHICLES IS 400 SQUARE FEET. SO, IS, SO IS THAT THE DEFINITION OF, UH, RECREATIONAL VEHICLES BY THE FIRE PEOPLE? AND IT'S 400 SQUARE FEET? IS THAT WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME FROM? I DUNNO. BUT I THINK IF I, IF I HAD A 1200 SQUARE FOOT RV, I DON'T THINK PARKING WOULD BE SO MUCH AN ISSUE. YEAH. I, I MEAN, JUST, JUST TO KEEP IT CLEAR, I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND THAT UNDER THE DEFINITION FOR OVERSIGHTS VEHICLE, WHAT WE'RE ADDING IS A LAST SENTENCE. WE PUT RECREATION AND VEHICLES AS SO TO FIND, YOU KNOW, IN THIS CODE, COMMA, IT'LL NOT BE CONSIDERED AN OVERSIZED VEHICLE THAT WOULD YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK THAT WORKS. YEAH. REVEALED AS IT IS. NO. OH, NO. I THINK AMEND THAT LAST SENTENCE OF OVERSIZED VEHICLE TO SAY RECREATIONAL VEHICLES AS DEFINED IN THIS CODE OR IN THIS SECTION? YEAH, IN THIS SECTION. DEFINED IN, IN THIS CHAPTER. CHAPTER. IN THIS CHAPTER. THERE WE GO. LET'S DO THAT. ALL. THANKS. LOGAN GOT A PERIOD IN THERE, MR. CHAIR. MOVE TO APPROVE AS AMENDED AND PRESENT IT TODAY. ALL RIGHT. MOTION BY SECOND. MOTION TO APPROVE WITH EDITS BY COMMISSIONER BUSTANI, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MIL. NO, YOU CAN, BUT THEY'RE NOT NECESSARY. IT DON'T, DON'T STRIKE THAT. OH, NO, NO, NO, NO. KEEP KEEP, KEEP CALLING THAT REP. OH, OKAY. AS AMENDED. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL. YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI. YES. COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER BUS. UH, COUNCILMAN COURAGE? YES. COMMISSIONER PECK? YES. COMMISSIONER CREO HAYES. YES. CHAIR, PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. ALL RIGHT. WE SAVED THE BEST FOR LAST 5 26 IS THE LAST AMENDMENT. FIVE DASH 26 IS RELATED TO, UH, THE REPLACEMENT VALUE OF NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURES. IT WAS SUBMITTED BY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, UH, AT THE LAST WORK SESSION. UH, THIS WAS REQUESTED TO BE PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL, UH, DISCUSSION. UH, JUST A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THIS ITEM. UH, WE HAVE IN OUR CODE, UH, IN, UH, SUBSECTION E OF 35, 7 0 6, THAT'S TERMINATION OF NON-CONFORMING USES. UM, WE HAVE HISTORICALLY STRUGGLED WITH ENFORCING THIS SECTION. UH, WHAT STAFF PROPOSED TO DO WAS PROVIDE MORE CLEAR LANGUAGE AS TO HOW WE GO ABOUT CALCULATING, UH, UH, SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE FOR COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, IT SAYS THE RIGHT TO OPERATE AND MAINTAIN ANY NON-RESIDENTIAL. THAT IS TO SAY COMMERCIAL NON-CONFORMING USE SHALL TERMINATE AND CEASE TO EXIST WHENEVER THE STRUCTURE IT'S OPERATED IN IS DAMAGED OR DESTROYED FROM ANY CAUSE WHATSOEVER. AND THE COST OF REPAIRING IS SUCH DAMAGE. DAMAGE EXCEEDS 50% OF THE CURRENTLY IT SAYS REPLACEMENT COST. THAT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR STAFF TO COME UP WITH. SO WE [04:45:01] ARE OFTENTIMES IN RELYING ON A, ON AN APPLICANT TO PRODUCE US A NUMBER, AND THERE'S NO VERIFICATION OF WHATEVER NUMBER IS ULTIMATELY PRODUCED. SO WE ARE PROPOSING TO CHANGE THAT TO THE APPRAISED VALUE. IT IS PUBLIC INFORMATION. YOU CAN GO TO B C AD, YOU CAN GET THE APPRAISED VALUE FOR THE PURPOSE OF THAT CALCULATION DUE TO CHANGES IN THE STATE LAW. WE CANNOT USE VALUATION WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. SO WE ARE PROPOSING TO CHANGE THAT LANGUAGE TO SAY, SHOULD A RESIDENTIAL NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURE, UH, IN WHICH, UH, MORE THAN 50% OF THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT IS DESTROYED, THEN YOU CAN LOSE THE NON-CONFORMING RIGHTS. SO FOR THAT ONE, WE HAVE TO USE AREA, BUT WE ARE PROPOSING TO CHANGE THE REPLACEMENT COST TO THE APPRAISED VALUE FOR EVERYTHING THAT IS NON-RESIDENTIAL, JUST TO KEEP THINGS EASIER TO CALCULATE, EASIER TO UNDERSTAND, AND EASIER TO ACCESS. THAT'S IT. THAT'S IT. I'M GETTING MY STEPS. YEAH. SO I HAVE A QUESTION. I'M THE, I'M THE COMMISSIONER THAT ASKED THIS ONE BE PULLED. AND, AND, AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE MY CONCERN WAS THERE'S A DATE, UH, OF, OF THE, THAT THE DAMAGE OCCURRED IS WHERE YOU LOOK AT THAT APPRAISED VALUE, BUT THEN YOU COULD BE MOVING FORWARD WITH A PERMIT AT A LATER POINT IN TIME WHERE THE COST IS INCR IS INCREASED. AND I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET THAT 50% TEST TO BE DONE ON THE SAME DATUM, FINANCIAL DATUM. UH, AND SO I, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED THIS TO BE PULLED. SO I, I, I THINK THAT AS FAR AS STAFF IS CONCERNED, WE, WE ARE TRYING TO COME UP, WE ARE CERTAINLY TRYING TO ENHANCE WHAT IS IN THE CODE TODAY, WHICH IS NOT WORKING. UH, WE, WE FEEL THAT THIS APPROACH IS EFFICIENT. IT'S EASY FOR ANYONE TO ACCESS THAT INFORMATION FOR US TO MAKE A RAPID DETERMINATION WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH A BURDENSOME PROCESS. UM, SO THAT IS, THAT'S STAFF'S POSITION. SO I, I THINK IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT BETTER IS A FAIR ASSESSMENT. YEAH. I, I, I, YEAH. PERFECT. IS VERY COMPLEX AND I THINK IT REQUIRES GOING OUT AND HIRING APPRAISERS TO CONDUCT MARKET ANALYSIS BASED ON FUTURE, CURRENT OR PREVIOUS CONDITIONS VERSUS JUST LOOKING AT THE APPRAISED VALUE. YEAH, I THINK IT'S ABOUT AS GOOD AS YOU'RE GONNA GET WITHOUT GETTING TOO COMPLEX AND CONVOLUTED. SO I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED HERE. SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE IS AMENDED BY COMMISSIONER PECK, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SIEGEL. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL. YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI. YES. COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? NO. COMMISSIONER BUSTY. AYE. UH, COUNCILMAN COURAGE? YES. COMMISSIONER PECK? YES. COMMISSIONER CILLO HAYNES? YES. CHAIR PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE, WE ALREADY APPROVED THE MINUTES IS DO WE HAVE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT? NO DIRECTOR'S REPORT. BUT I DO WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND DEDICATION TO THIS PROCESS. I KNOW IT WAS A LOT OF WORK, A LOT OF WORK SESSIONS. WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL HANGING IN THERE AND, AND HELPING US TO ANALYZE THESE AND MAKE SURE WE'RE FORWARDING, UH, SOLID POLICIES ONTO CITY COUNCIL. SO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. IT'S SEVENTH. AND AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO THANK STAFF. IT'S BEEN A LONG, LONG ROAD. IN FACT, WAY BEFORE COVID, WE STARTED WORKING ON THIS STUFF. AND, UH, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR WORKING WITH US ON THIS AND KEEPING IT ALL ORGANIZED AND KEEPING EVERYTHING MOVING FORWARD. IT'S, IT'S BEEN SMOOTH AND, UH, AS SMOOTH AS IT CAN POSSIBLY BE, SO THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. EVERY FIVE YEARS. THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR LUNCH. YEAH, . ALRIGHT. SEVEN. THANK YOU. 7 38. AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.