* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. EVERYBODY READY TO GO? WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. HELLO? CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? NOPE. OH, NO. NOPE. NO. HOLD UP. OKAY, GUYS. AND PUMP UP THE VOLUME ON THESE MICROPHONES. OKAY. HOW ABOUT NOW? YEAH. OKAY. WELL, GOOD MORNING. THE TIME NOW IS NINE, UH, 9:11 AM THIS IS THE OPEN MIC. OH, OKAY. THE TIME NOW IS IN 9:11 AM AND WELCOME TO THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD. UM, I'M GONNA HAVE MY, MY EYES AND MY GLASSES ARE NOT WORKING TOGETHER THIS MORNING, SO I'M GONNA HAVE MY VICE CHAIR READ THE CHAIRMAN'S STATEMENT. ARE WE READY? YES. GOOD MORNING. UH, A QUORUM IS PRESENT. NO, I HAVE TO CALL ROE. OKAY. JOANNE NELSON. PRESENT. JESSE ZUNIGA. PRESENT. ROBERT TAPIA. PRESENT MS. BROWN. HERE. DAVID GARZA. PRESENT. CHERISE GUPTE. JOEL SOLIS. PRESENT. FRED ANDES PRESENT. ALSO PRESENT IN THE MEETING FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, OR SAVI RAI. AND ERIC BURNS FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. JENNY RAMIREZ, CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER. JUDY KRUM. B S B LIAISON. JENNIFER MARTINEZ, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TWO. AND MYSELF, ESTHER ORTIZ, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SPECIALIST. CHAIR AUS. PRESENT. ALRIGHT, GREAT. OKAY, CAN WE HAVE THE SPANISH TRANSLATION PLEASE? GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU. NOW WE'LL HAVE, NOW WE'LL HAVE THE, UM, THE CHAIRMAN'S STATEMENT. READ. GOOD MORNING. QUORUM IS PRESENT. PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES OR, AND, OR ANY DEVICE THAT MAY DISRUPT THIS PUBLIC HEARING. NO PERSON SHALL DELAY OR DISRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS OR DISOBEY THE ORDER OF THE CHAIR. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON A CASE, YOU WILL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES. HOWEVER, AN OWNER OR OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE WILL HAVE UNLIMITED TIME. PLEASE KEEP ALL INFORMATION RELEVANT TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION AND THE CODE VIOLATION AS ADVISED PRIOR TO THIS PUBLIC HEARING, THE CITY WILL PROVIDE TRANSLATION SERVICES FOR ANYONE NEEDING ASSISTANCE. IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU HAVE MADE SUCH ARRANGEMENTS AS ADVISED IN YOUR NOTICE OF HEARING. OUR EXPECTATION IS THAT YOU SUBMIT THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTATION PRIOR TO THIS PUBLIC HEARING. YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A PROPERTY OWNER OR LIEN HOLDER OF A DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE CASE IS THE, IS TO, UH, DEMONSTRATE THE FOLLOWING. ONE, PROVIDE THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTS. DISCUSS YOUR DETAILED SCOPE OF WORK WITH A COST FOR EACH ITEM OUTLINED IN ORDER TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE CODE OFFICER. TWO. SUBMIT THE REQUIRED PROOF OF FINANCIAL ABILITY TO PAY FOR PROPOSED WORK AND DISCUSS FEASIBILITY OF REPAIRS DEPENDENT UPON MONIES AT HAND. AND THREE, REQUEST THE AMOUNT OF TIME NEEDED TO COMPLETE THE WORK. ALL ABATEMENTS ORDERED BY THE BOARD SHALL BE ENFORCED. ALL WORK PROPOSED MUST BE DONE WITHIN CODE REGULATIONS WITH REQUIRED PERMITS PRIOR TO THE COMMENCEMENT OF WORK. YOU MAY OBTAIN ALL PERMITS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES LOCATED AT 1901 SOUTH ALAMO STREET, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 4. IF IN DOUBT AS TO THE PROCESS DURING THIS TIME, PLEASE CONTACT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. ANY OWNER OR LIEN HOLDER DISSATISFIED WITH AN ORDER OF OF THIS BOARD MAY FILE AN APPEAL IN CIVIL DISTRICT COURT WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER THE DATE THAT THE ORDER IS MAILED. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ORDERS, PLEASE CONTACT CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF MEMBER BY PHONE AT (210) 207-5422. PLEASE NOTE IT IS UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSONS PRESENT TO SOLICIT OR PEDAL SERVICES REGARDING ANY PROPERTY UNDER CONSIDERATION BY THIS BOARD DURING THE COURSE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING, AS PER CITY CODE SECTION 16 DASH 2 3 6. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT FOR ME. UM, WE WILL HAVE, OH, [ Approval of Minutes  ] I'M SORRY. UH, APPROVAL OF MINUTES. DID EVERYBODY [00:05:01] GET A COPY OF THE MINUTES? MADAM CHAIR? MADAM CHAIR DEWAYNE NELSON. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES SUBMITTED. OKAY. I SECOND. WE HAVE A, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION. COULD WE GO TO ROLL CALL PLEASE? DWAYNE NELSON. AYE. JESSE ZUNIGA. AYE. ROBERT TAPIA. AYE. MS. BROWN? AYE. DAVID GARZA. AYE. JOELLE SOLIS. AYE. FRED ANDES AYE. MINUTES ARE APPROVED WITH THE VOTE OF SEVEN TO ZERO. OKAY, GREAT. UM, WE'LL [ Briefing and Possible Action on the following items  ] HAVE, UM, A STAFF REPORT. SO, MS. JENNY, GOOD MORNING BOARD MEMBERS, I HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS TO READ INTO THE RECORD. MY NAME IS JENNY RAMIREZ, CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. THE FIRST ITEM TO READ INTO THE RECORD IS STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 37 0 6 BEACH STREET IN COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE. THIS PROPERTY WAS DEMOLISHED DUE TO A FIRE THAT OCCURRED ON AUGUST THE FIRST OF 2022. IT WAS DEMOLISHED ON AUGUST THE FIFTH OF 2022. NO FURTHER ACTION IS NEEDED BY THIS, BY THE BOARD PURSUANT TO CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 75. THERE ARE BEFORE WERE THERE BEFORE AND AFTER PHOTOS. ALRIGHT, NEXT STRUCTURE. SEVEN 10 MARSHALL COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE. THIS WAS DEMOLISHED AS AN EMERGENCY ON AUGUST THE 10TH DUE TO A FIRE WHICH OCCURRED ON JULY 27TH, 2022. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 75, NO FURTHER ACTION IS NEEDED BY THE BOARD AT THIS TIME. IN THE LAST STRUCTURE, 25 0 3 WEST SOUTH CROSS IN COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE WAS DEMOLISHED ON AUGUST THE NINTH DUE TO AN EXTENSIVE FIRE, WHICH OCCURRED ON AUGUST THE THIRD. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 75, NO FURTHER ACTION IS NEEDED BY THE BOARD AT THIS TIME. THAT DOES COMPLETE MY REPORT, UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. I DO. YES, MA'AM. YES. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THESE, UM, THESE FIRE CASES, YOU KNOW, LAST WEEK WE HAD, I DON'T KNOW, SEVEN OR EIGHT OF 'EM, AND THIS WEEK WE HAVE THREE. HAS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DETERMINED WHAT'S CAUSING IT? IS IT ARSON OR, I MEAN, I, I, I JUST CAN'T SEE ONE COMMUNITY HAVING SO MANY FIRES. UM, THEY DO HAVE THEIR ARSON INVESTIGATION. UM, REVIEWING THESE CASES AND INVESTIGATING, WE'RE NOT PRIVY TO THE OUTCOME OF THOSE CASES. IF THEY'RE ONGOING OR WHAT THE, THE CONTINUING REVIEW IS, WE ARE STARTING TO TRACK ON OUR OWN, IF SOME OF THESE ARE OCCUPIED OR VACANT TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY ON OCCUPIED IT MAY BE AN ELECTRICAL FIRE OR SOMETHING THAT OCCURRED WITH AN OVERLOADING, VACANT STRUCTURES. TYPICALLY, MAYBE SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T BELONG TO THE PROPERTY IS COMING ON. FOR EXAMPLE, THESE THREE READING INTO THE RECORD TODAY, TWO OF THEM WERE VACANT STRUCTURES. ONE WAS AN OCCUPIED STRUCTURE. SO IT'S KIND OF A SPLIT. IT'S NOT AN, UH, IT'S NOT AN OVERWHELMING AND ONE END OR THE OTHER. BUT, UH, WE ARE STARTING TO TRACK, AND I KNOW THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN VERY CAREFULLY REVIEWING THEM, UH, THROUGH THEIR ARSON TEAMS AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES. THIS IS FRED ANN SMITH. DID THE RECORD SHOW THAT THESE HOUSES STILL HAD POWER AND GAS AND WATER TO 'EM? SO WITH THE, WITH THE STRUCTURE BEING OCCUPIED, THAT IS MY ASSUMPTION. I DON'T HAVE THAT RECORD. UM, OR THAT PAPERWORK OR DOCUMENTATION IN FRONT OF ME TO, TO SAY YES OR NO DEFINITIVELY. BUT MY ASSUMPTION WOULD BE IF A PROPERTY WAS OCCUPIED, IT'S GONNA HAVE GAS AND ELECTRICITY AT THE TIME OF THE FIRE. RIGHT. UM, NOW WHETHER THAT'S THE CAUSE OR THE OTHER NON CAUSE, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING AGAIN, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE THOSE REPORTS, NOR DO WE READ THEM INTO THE RECORD. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE UNOCCUPIED ONES THAT SEEM TO BE BURNING DOWN AS WELL. UM, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU ON THAT. UM, WE CAN START LOOKING AT THOSE. UM, I KNOW WHEN WE DO EMERGENCIES, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE CUT AT THE MAIN, BUT IT TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, USUALLY METERS ARE REMOVED ON VACANT STRUCTURES. IF IT'S, IF IT'S CONSIDERED A VACANT, DOCUMENTED AS A VACANT, THE METERS ARE USUALLY REMOVED. BUT THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE, DEPENDING ON HOW LONG IT'S BEEN VACANT. SO IT CAN BE BOTH. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, WE HAVE NOW THE INDIVIDUAL CASES AND THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, ONE 10 MARY LOUISE. AND WE'LL HAVE THE, THE OFFICER COME UP FIRST TO, TO REPORT. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING BOARD. GOOD FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME IS DALE RUSSELL, CODE ENFORCEMENT SUPERVISOR WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT TEAM. [00:10:01] THE PROPERTY I AM PRESENTING BEFORE YOU TODAY IS LOCATED AT ONE 10 MARY LOUIS, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 1. LEGAL DESCRIPTION BEING N C B 6 7 0 0 BLOCK NINE LOT 10 11 AND WEST 35 FEET OF 12 LOCATED IN COUNCIL DISTRICT SEVEN. THE OWNER OF RECORD IS MARGARET VELASQUEZ. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT OF MON MONTICELLO PARK, AND IT IS CURRENTLY TENANT OCCUPIED. THE SECTIONS OF CODE THAT THE PROPERTY IS VIOLATING ARE 3 0 4 0.2 PROTECTIVE TREATMENT. ALL EXTERIOR SURFACES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO DOORS, DOOR AND WINDOW FRAMES, CORNICES, PORCHES, TRIM BALCONIES, AND DECKS SHALL BE MAINTAINED IN GOOD CONDITION. EXTERIOR WOOD SURFACES OTHER THAN DECAY RESISTED WOODS SHALL BE PROTECTED FROM THE ELEMENTS AND DECAY BY PAINTING OR OTHER PROTECTIVE COVERING TREATMENT. ALL SIDING AND MASONRY JOINTS, AS WELL AS THOSE BETWEEN THE BUILDING ENVELOPE AND THE PERIMETER OF THE WINDOWS DOORS. SKYLIGHTS SHALL BE MAINTAINED, WEATHER RESISTANT, WATERTIGHT. ALL METAL SURFACES SUBJECT TO RUST OR CORROSION, SHALL BE COATED TO INHIBIT SUCH RUST AND CORROSION. AND ALL SURFACES WITH RUST OR CORROSION SHALL BE STABILIZED AND COATED TO INHIBIT FUTURE RUSTING. CORROSION. OXIDATION STAINS SHALL BE REMOVED FROM EXTERIOR SURFACES. SURFACES DESIGNED FOR STABILIZATION BY OXIDATION ARE EXEMPT FROM THIS REQUIREMENT. 3 0 4 0.4 STRUCTURAL MEMBERS. ALL STRUCTURAL MEMBERS SHALL BE MAINTAINED FREE FROM DETERIORATION AND SHALL BE CAPABLE OF SAFELY SUPPORTING AND IMPOSED DEAD AND LIVE LOADS. AND THERE IS AN, THERE IS A CORRECTION, UH, IN YOUR PAPERWORK FOR THE NOTICE DATE. THAT ONE IN NOTICE DATE IS ACTUALLY JULY 7TH. I'M SORRY, WHAT? SO THE, THERE'S A CORRECTION. THE NOTICE FOR THAT PARTICULAR VIOLATION IS NO, UH, IS JULY 7TH. SO IT'S A DIFFERENT NOTICE DATE, 3 0 4. UH, THE NEXT ONE IS 3 0 4 0.6. EXTERIOR WALLS, ALL EXTERIOR WALLS SHALL BE FREE FROM HOLES, BREAKS, AND LOOSE OR ROTTING MATERIALS AND MAINTAINED WEATHERPROOF AND PROPERLY SURFACE COATED WHERE REQUIRED TO PREVENT DETERIORATION. 3 0 5 0.3, ALL INTERIOR SURFACE, INCLUDING WINDOWS, DOORS, INCLUDING WINDOWS AND DOORS, SHALL BE MAINTAINED IN GOOD REPAIR, CLEAN SARY CONDITION, LOOSE PLASTERED, DECAYED WOOD AND OTHER DEFECTIVE SURFACE CONDITIONS SHALL BE CORRECTED. 3 0 5 0.4 STAIRS EVERY STAIR RAMP, I'M SORRY, IT'S 3 0 5 0.4 STAIRS AND WALKING SURFACES. EVERY STAIR RAMP, LANDING BALCONY, PORCH DECK, OR OTHER WALKING SURFACE SHALL BE MAINTAINED IN SOUND CONDITION AND GOOD REPAIR. HANDRAILS AND GUARDS. EVERY HANDRAIL AND GUARD SHALL BE FIRMLY FASTENED, CAPABLE OF SUPPORTING NORMALLY IMPORT IMPOSED LOADS AND SHALL BE MAINTAINED IN GOOD CONDITION. AND 3 0 9 0.1 INFESTATION. ALL STRUCTURES SHALL BE KEPT FREE FROM INSECT AND RODENT INFESTATION. ALL STRUCTURES, WHICH INSECTS AND RODENTS ARE FOUND SHALL BE PROPERLY EXTER EXTERMINATED BY APPROVED PROCESSES THAT WILL NOT BE INJURIOUS TO HUMAN HEALTH. AFTER EXTERMINATION, PROPER PRECAUTIONS SHALL BE TAKEN TO PREVENT REINFESTATION 6 0 4 0.3. ELECTRICAL HAZARDS WERE FOUND THAT ELECTRICAL SYSTEM AND A STRUCTURE CONSTITUTES A HAZARD TO THE OCCUPANTS ARE STRUCTURED BY REASON OF INADEQUATE SERVICE, IMPROPER FUSSING, INSUFFICIENT RECEPTACLE AND LIGHTING OUTLETS, IMPROPER WIRING OR INSULATION, DETERIORATION OR DAMAGE, OR SIMILAR REASONS. THE CODE OFFICIALS SHALL REQUIRE THE DEFECTS TO BE CORRECTED TO BE, TO ELIMINATE THE HAZARD. THE PROPERTY INSPECTIONS ON MAY 25TH, THE INITIAL INSPECTION WAS MADE. UH, THAT'S 2020, UH, 2022. THE INITIAL INSPECTION WAS MADE. CALL CODE OFFICERS ALSO IDENTIFIED SEVERAL VIOLATIONS AND NOTICES WERE ISSUED. ON JUNE 10TH, A REINSPECTION WAS MADE AND THE VIOLATIONS REMAIN. JULY 7TH, A REINSPECTION WAS MADE. ADDITIONAL VIOLATIONS WERE NOTED. NOTICES ISSUED, UH, REPAIRS HAD STARTED ON THE SECOND FLOOR, WALKWAY WITHOUT PERMITS. ON JULY 19TH, A REINSPECTION WAS MADE, THE VIOLATIONS REMAINED. WE REQUESTED AN ENGINEER'S REPORT FOR THE SECOND FLOOR WALKWAY, AUGUST 5TH, A REINSPECTION WAS MADE. VIOLATIONS REMAIN. REPAIRS WERE COMPLETED ON THE SECOND FLOOR WALKWAY WITHOUT PERMITS, AND WE DELIVERED THE NOTICES FOR THE BUILDING STANDARD BOARD. ON, ON AUGUST 11TH, REINSPECTION WAS CONDUCTED AND THE VIOLATIONS REMAIN. IF [00:15:01] YOU LOOK TO THE PICTURES, THAT IS THE FRONT OF THE STRUCTURE. WHEN WE FIRST SAW THE SECOND FLOOR WALKWAY, THAT WAS THE CONDITION. IT WAS IN THE, UM, YOU CAN SEE THE DETERIORATED WOOD, AND YOU CAN SEE SOME REPAIRS HAVE STARTED NEXT. AND THERE IS THE, UH, EFFECTS OF WEATHERING. AND YOU CAN SEE SOME ROTTED WOOD NEXT. AND AGAIN, THAT'S ANOTHER PICTURE OF THE CUTOUT FROM BELOW. NEXT YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, THE, UH, DILAPIDATED BEAMS RUN BACK INTO THE STRUCTURE NEXT. AND THERE'S A BETTER VIEW FROM UNDERNEATH. AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THE, HOW DAMAGED SOME OF THOSE, UH, BEAMS ARE NEXT. THOSE ARE THE, THAT IS AFTER THE REPAIR HAS BEEN MADE AND THAT THOSE ARE THE REPAIRS FROM UNDERNEATH. UH, NO PERMITS HAVE BEEN PULLED FOR THAT REPAIR. NO ENGINEER, ENGINEER REPORT HAS BEEN, UH, SUBMITTED. NEXT, THERE IS OTHER HOLES THROUGHOUT THIS, THE SOFFIT OF THE STRUCTURE, UM, THAT IS ACTUALLY UNDERNEATH THAT WALKWAY. NEXT, THOSE ARE THE STAIRS THE BRACKET IS HOLDING. THE STAIRS ARE HANGING OVER, UH, NOT COMPLETELY ATTACHED, AND YOU'LL SEE RUST AROUND THOSE BRACKETS. NEXT THERE WE SEE, UH, THAT BRACKET IS RUSTING AND IT, THERE WAS TWO BRACKETS WELDED TOGETHER NEXT. AND THERE IS, UH, EXTENSIVE RUST ON SOME OF THE BRACKETS NEXT. AND THAT IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE. THE STAIRS ARE OFFSET AND, AND THEY'RE BREAKING AND THEY'RE CUT UNEVEN NEXT. AND THAT'S THE VIEW FROM UNDERNEATH WHERE YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A NEW STAIR, A STEP THAT HAS BEEN PLACED ON THAT HOLD ON THOSE OLD BRACKETS. NEXT. AND THERE YOU SEE HOW SOME OF THE STEP STEPS ARE BREAKING UNDERNEATH THE STAIR. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE CONCRETE'S STARTING TO COME OFF NEXT. THAT IS THE WALKWAY AROUND THE FRONT AND IT'S UNEVEN. NEXT. THIS PICTURE DOESN'T SHOW IT WELL, BUT THAT WALKWAY IS VERY HARD TO WALK ON. IT IS VERY UNEVEN. NEXT. AND HERE YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, STEPPING IN THE BRICK SIDING. NEXT. NEXT, YOU CAN SEE THE EXTENSIVE, UH, STEPPING THERE THAT THEY'VE USED. UH, JUST, UH, PATCHED UP THERE IS THE ELECTRICAL VIOLATION. IT'S, UH, RIGHT THERE NEXT TO THE WATER FOR THE EL FOR THE WASHING MACHINE. AND IT HAS NO COVER AND IT HAS EXPOSED WIRING. NEXT, THOSE ARE THE HANDRAILS. YOU CAN SEE THERE'S CRACKING AROUND THE HANDRAIL MOUNT NEXT. AND THAT IS A, THAT'S A, ANOTHER PICTURE OF ANOTHER HANDRAIL IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION. NEXT. AND THERE YOU CAN SEE THE CONCRETE'S COME OFF COMPLETELY AND THE BOLT HOLDING THE HANDRAIL IS NOW EXPOSED. NEXT, THERE IS ONE OF THE, UH, SUPPORT, NEW SUPPORT BEAMS THEY HAVE, UM, PUT IN TO SUPPORT THE STRUCTURE. THE SECOND, THE ROOF OF THE STRUCTURE NEXT. AND THERE IS THE SECOND POST WHERE YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A, A SHIMMY IN THERE BECAUSE IT WAS NOT TALL ENOUGH. NEXT, THE DOOR DOORFRAMES ARE BROKEN, UM, AND THEY ARE NOT WEATHER TREATED. NEXT, I, THERE'S ANOTHER NON WEATHER TREATED DOORFRAME. NEXT THERE YOU CAN SEE THERE'S HOLES AND GAPS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE, UH, SOFFIT EXPOSING THE INTERIOR OF THE ROOF. NEXT, AND THERE IS A INFESTATION NEXT. AND THOSE ARE THE PICTURES OF THE ROACHES THAT WERE IN THE LOCATION. THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE OWNER, THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER BE FOUND IN VIOLATION OF THE SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE SUBSECTIONS 6 0 4 0.3, ELECTRICAL SYSTEM HAZARDS, 5 0 5 POINT, UH, I'M SORRY, 3 0 5 0.5 HANDRAILS AND GUARDS. 3 0 4 0.6. EXTERIOR WALLS, 3 0 5 0.4 STAIRS AND WALKING SURFACES 3 0 5 0.3 INTERIOR SURFACES. THESE ARE THE VIOLATIONS THAT WERE NOTED IN THE NOTICES ON MAY 25TH. AND FOR 3 0 4 0.4 STRUCTURAL MEMBERS. 3 0 4 0.2 PROTECTIVE TREATMENT, 3 0 9 0.1 INFESTATION. THESE VIOLATIONS WERE [00:20:01] ISSUED ON JULY 7TH, AND THAT THEY BE ORDERED TO OBTAIN DETAILED ENGINEER'S REPORT FOR ALL STAIRS AND WALKING SURFACES, BALCONY AND BALCONIES TO MAKE ALL NECESSARY REPAIRS, OBTAIN REQUIRED PERMITS, AND THAT THE BOARD ASSESS FINES FOR THE VIOLATION. THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. WOULD YOU REPEAT THE, UH, VIOLATIONS? OH SEVEN SEVEN, PLEASE? YES, SIR. THAT WOULD BE 3 0 4 0.4 STRUCTURAL MEMBERS. 3 0 4 0.2 PROTECTIVE TREATMENT. 3 0 9 0.1 INFESTATION. THANK YOU. OKAY, LET ME MAKE SURE THAT I GOT THE, UH, VIOLATIONS FOR THE OTHER DATE. IT WAS 3 0 3 0 5 0.530. 4.430 4.2 3 0, 4 POINT, UH, SORRY. 3 0 9 0.1. UH, 3 0 5 0.330 5.430 4.6 AND 6 0 4 0.3. IS THAT CORRECT? DID I MISS ONE? WELL, THE, THE ONES FOR THE 25TH AND YOU READ 'EM BACKWARDS. UM, FROM THE WAY I HAVE 'EM, THE, UH, 25TH IS 6 0 4 0.330 5.5 3 0, 4 0.630 5.4 AND 3 0 5 0.3. OKAY. AND THEN, AND THOSE WERE FOR MAY 25TH FROM WHERE? THOSE ARE MAY 25TH. MAY 25TH. OKAY. AND, BUT AS, AS OF TODAY, EVERYTHING IS STILL IN, IN VIOLATION AS OF MY LAST INSP. MY LAST REINSPECTION, IT WAS IN VIOLATION. AND MY LAST REINSPECTION WAS AUGUST 11TH. OKAY. I APOLOGIZE. BUT, UH, 3 0 5 0.4, UH, VERIFY THE DATE ON 3 0 5 0.4 BECAUSE IT WAS GIVEN AS BOTH SEVEN SEVEN AND 5 25. OKAY. 3 0 5 0.4 IS MAY 25TH. THANK YOU. QUESTION? YES. QUESTION. DAVID GARZA HERE. DAVID, THANK YOU. UH, WAS THIS A PROACTIVE CASE OR A REACTIVE CASE? BECAUSE TENANTS WERE COMPLAINING THIS WA IT WAS BEGAN AS A REACTIVE CASE THROUGH COMPLAINTS. AND HOW MANY COMPLAINTS WERE FILED AGAINST THE OWNER BY TENANTS? I THAT I DO NOT KNOW. I, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THE COMPLAINTS CAME IN FROM TENANTS. I WAS JUST TRYING TO DETERMINE THE PREPONDERANCE OF CONCERNS BY THE RESIDENTS WHO WERE LIVING IN THIS PROPERTY. THANK YOU. AND NO ONE'S LIVING THERE NOW, CORRECT? NO, IT IS CURRENT OC IT'S CURRENTLY OCCUPIED. AND WHAT IS THE OCCUPANCY RATE? IT HA THEY HAVE, UH, 36 UNITS, BUT I DO NOT KNOW HOW MANY OCCUPANTS THEY HAVE. THEY HAVE, UM, THEY HAVE MULTIPLE INDIVIDUALS IN EACH UNIT. 'CAUSE IT IS, UH, IT, IT IS OPERATING AS AN ASSISTED LIVING. SO THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE LIVING THERE RIGHT NOW ARE, UM, AN, AN UNSAFE UNIT, APARTMENT UNIT, IS WHAT WE'RE SAYING? WELL, THEY, THEY DO HAVE THESE VIOLATIONS. WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE COMPLEX IS UNSAFE. THEY HAVE MAINTENANCE ISSUES THAT THEY DO HAVE TO ADDRESS. ANY REPORTS OF INJURY? NOT THAT I KNOW OF. OKAY. MR. ZUNIGA, YOU HAD A QUESTION. UH, YOU HAVE STATED THAT IT, IT WAS A REACTION AND, AND NOT A PROACT ACTION. CORRECT. THIS WAS, THESE INSPECTIONS WERE DONE AS PART OF A REACTIVE RESPONSE. AND, UH, IT WAS RESPOND OF WHAT ATTENDING OR, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE COMPLAINTS COME FROM NORMALLY. UH, BUT WE DID GET BUT, BUT YOU DIDN'T INITIATE IT. IT WAS AN CORRECT. A PRO. AND, UH, REGARDLESS OF WHEN, UH, UH, THE VIOLATIONS OCCUR, THE, THE VIOLATIONS STILL THERE, RIGHT? CORRECT. EVEN IF IT WAS MAY, JUNE OR AUGUST. OKAY. AND N NONE OF THE, UH, UH, REPAIRS OR NONE OF THE ACTION TAKEN TO DO SOME REPAIRS WERE WITHOUT PERMIT? CORRECT. THE, THE REPAIRS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE WERE DONE WITHOUT PERMITS, AND THEY WERE DONE WITHOUT AN ENGINEER'S LETTER. AND ARE THEY, UH, SHIFTING, UH, THE, UH, TENANTS FROM ONE APARTMENT TO APARTMENTS THAT'S ALREADY [00:25:01] SORT OF REPAIRED? OR, OR THAT I COULDN'T, THAT I DON'T KNOW. SO THE AIR CONDITIONS, EITHER YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. RIGHT. BUT IT'S STILL THE ELECTRICAL AREA. RIGHT. THE AC UNITS DO APPEAR TO BE WORKING. OKAY. SO IT WAS 3, 3 0 4 0.2 3 0, 4 0.6. 3 0 5. 3 3 0, 5 0.4 3 0, 5 0.530 9.1. AND 6 0 4 0.3. AND THEY'RE STILL ACTIVE AS OF LAST INSPECTION? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY REASON WHY THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX WASN'T BROUGHT TO US BEFORE? NOW? I MEAN, THESE, ALL THESE CONDITIONS JUST DIDN'T START AND IT, IT JUST TO, IN MY OPINION, IS JUST THE, THE MANAGEMENT WAS NEGLECTFUL. WELL, THEY DID, THEY DID MAKE SOME REPAIRS, AND WE WERE GIVING THEM TIME TO FINISH THE REPAIRS. BUT AS WE, AS WE'RE SEEING HERE THAT THEY'RE NOT PULLING PERMITS, THEY ARE MAKING REPAIRS WITHOUT PERMITS. SO, YOU KNOW, THIS LOOKS LIKE A DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT BECAUSE OF THE, ALL THE, THE VIOLATIONS THAT THEY HAVE. UM, OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? IS THERE ANY, UH, CRIMINAL ACTIVITY? I DO HAVE A S A P D OFFICER HERE TO SPEAK ON THAT. OH, OKAY. GOOD. AND PRIOR TO, 'CAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A THREE MONTH PROCESS, THE FIRST INSPECTION IN MAY, MAY 25TH. SO PRIOR TO THIS, WE WERE NOT AWARE OF THESE PROBLEMS OR DO WE KNOW HOW LONG THESE PROBLEMS HAVE EXISTED? OR CAN WE TELL BY THE CONDITION OF THE, UH, OF, OF, OF THE BUILDING? THE BUILDING DID HAVE, UM, FROM OUR INSPECTION, IT DID HAVE A LACK OF MAINTENANCE. UM, WE HAVE HAD COMPLAINTS, UH, BUT THERE WERE VERY FOCUSED COMPLAINTS BEFORE. HOW OLD IS THIS, THIS BUILDING? IS IT IN THE, A HISTORIC DISTRICT? IT IS IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT, AND IT WAS BUILT IN 1955. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, THE NEXT PERSON THAT WILL SPEAK OF WILL BE THE OFFICER. UM, IS IT VINCENT? IS THAT KANO? YES. KANO STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR LOCATION FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. GOOD MORNING. UM, I'M OFFICER KAO WITH THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT. I'VE BEEN ON 22 YEARS. ALL OF IT AT WEST, ALL OF IT. IN THE AREA THAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING? I'M NOW, UH, SINCE 2011 WITH THE, UH, SAFE UNITS, SAN ANTONIO FEAR FREE ENVIRONMENT. WE'RE COMMUNITY POLICING AND LIAISONS TO, UH, LONGER TERM ISSUES AS THEY'RE PRESENTED TO YOU TODAY. UM, I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE TO TALK TO YOU TODAY. OKAY. STATE YOUR CASE FOR US, PLEASE. WELL, IT, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I'VE WORKED THERE 22 YEARS. UH, THIS FACILITY HAS BEEN THERE LONGER THAN I HAVE. AND, UH, OVER THE YEARS IT'S BEEN FINE. UH, WE'VE HAD, UH, SOME REGULAR ISSUES THAT YOU SEE IN, IN, UH, ASSISTED LIVING WHERE A TENANT WILL GET OUTTA HAND AND THEY NEED SOME HELP. UM, UH, I WOULD SAY ABOUT FIVE YEARS OR SO, I'VE SEEN A TRANSITION TO WHERE THERE SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, ACTIVITY, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE STRUCTURE. UM, THE ALLEYWAYS, THERE WAS PEOPLE CONGREGATING ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, THERE'S A SIDEWALK AND THERE'S PEOPLE ALMOST DAILY, UH, THERE CONGREGATING AS WELL. THERE WAS ALWAYS PEOPLE IN THE FRONT WHERE YOU SAW THE UNEVEN SIDEWALK INSIDE THAT GATE. THEY'D WAVE AND WE'D WAVE AND, AND, AND NO REALLY ISSUES THERE. BUT OVER TIME, THE COMMUNITY HAS REALLY OUTREACHED TO ME WITHIN THE LAST FIVE YEARS. ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, UH, THERE WAS A TENANT OR A CLAIM TO BE TENANT, UM, THAT WAS SITTING IN THE ALLEY BY A STOLEN CAR, AND HE WAS LOOKOUT. THAT'S WHAT WE FOUND OUT. SO WE DIDN'T CHARGE HIM WITH A THEFT OF VEHICLE. HE DIDN'T SEEM, OR, BUT HE, THE INFILTRATION OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY TO THAT AREA HAS REALLY INCREASED, ESPECIALLY, LIKE I SAID, WE WERE SEEING A STOLEN CAR IN AN ALLEYWAY DOWN ON FIRST STREET. THAT'S VERY RARE. THAT'S A VERY QUIET AND ESTABLISHED COMMUNITY. UH, SO THAT STUCK OUT. AND HIS EXPLANATION OF WHY HE WAS THERE WHEN WE GOT TO THE BOTTOM OF IT, MADE SENSE AS BEING A LOOKOUT FOR THE GUYS THAT WERE GONNA COME BACK AND STRIP IT THAT NIGHT. UH, BUT WHEN HE SAID, HEY, I STAY HERE. I DIDN'T BELIEVE HIM. UM, BUT THAT RAISED A LOT OF FLAGS. WHY IS THIS CRIMINAL AIL? WHY DO THEY KNOW TO SAY THEY LIVE THERE? BECAUSE THEY THINK, OH, WELL, YOU'RE NOW, THERE'S CULPABILITY ISSUES. THERE'S TRANSITION IN LIVING CONDITIONS. AND, AND THAT WAS A BIG FLAG, UH, FLAG FOR ME. UH, I GET THAT REPEATEDLY ON MY DAY DRINKERS ACROSS FROM THE, UH, [00:30:01] LITTLE CAESAR'S RIGHT THERE ON FREDERICKSBURG TANGENT TO THE PROPERTY. I KNOW FOUR OR FIVE OF 'EM ARE REGULARS, AND THEY LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY JUST, THEY JUST SIT THERE AND DRINK BECAUSE THEIR FAMILY DOESN'T TRUST THEM TO BE IN THE HOUSE WHEN THEY'RE GONE. WELL, NOW I GET A COUPLE OF GUYS THAT SAY, OH, WELL, I'M OVER HERE. I'M LIKE, WHY ARE YOU SAYING THAT? ARE YOU THERE? A COUPLE OF ONE OR TWO HAVE BEEN THERE AND, AND THEY'VE TRANSITIONED THEM OUT. UH, BUT WE'RE SEEING THAT INCREASE. UH, THE, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE DIRECTLY BEHIND THIS FACILITY THAT SHARE THE ALLEY, SHOW ME VIDEOS OF DRINKING, FIGHTING, URINATING, DEFECATING. UM, AND IT'S JUST, I THINK THEY'VE GOT A BETTER HANDLE ON THAT SINCE WE DID. I DID GO MEET WITH THEM. UM, I THINK ABOUT FOUR MONTHS AGO. THERE WAS ONE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS SITTING ON THE, THAT RESIDENCE, UH, CONCRETE WA LITTLE BRICK WALL KIND OF STARING AT THEM AND SMOKING ALL DAY. SO IT WAS REALLY SCARING THE FEMALE THERE. THE, THE ELDERLY, UH, RESIDENT. UH, I TALKED TO, UH, THE, THE MANAGER OWNER, UH, HERE IN HER OFFICE. UM, BUT MY MAIN CONCERN IS THIS. AND, AND SHE WAS VERY CORDIAL AND SHE CALLED THE GENTLEMAN WHO I DESCRIBED, AND HE SAID HE WASN'T GONNA DO IT ANYMORE. I DON'T THINK HE'S DOING IT ANYMORE. BUT MY CONCERN IS, UM, 'CAUSE I THOUGHT, WELL, WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE GONNA GO? WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO? UH, THEY'RE, I KNOW THAT I KNOW THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT. 'CAUSE OF ME COMMUNITY SCREAMING MAD ABOUT IT ALL, UH, FOUR RESIDENTS DOWN FIRST STREET, TWO DOWN, DONALDSON. UM, I, I WAS IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH 'EM ON ABOUT IN A, IN A MONTH'S TIME. I WAS AT THEIR HOUSE, UH, TRYING TO CALM THEM. UH, THERE'S A, ACROSS FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RIGHT BACK, THERE'S AN ELDERLY LADY THAT LIVES THERE AND THEIR FAMILY LIVES DOWN THE STREET. I WAS TRYING TO APPEASE THEIR NEEDS AND CONCERNS. BUT MY, THE ISSUE IS, MY BELIEF IS THIS, AND I CAN'T CONFIRM THIS, EVERY MEDICATION FROM THAT THE PATIENTS RECEIVE IS DISPENSED IN THE OFFICE. BUT, UH, IN INSIDE OF THE MANAGEMENT, LIKE, IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO TAKE YOUR MEDICINE. THEY STAND THERE, THEY GIVE 'EM THEIR MEDICINE, AND THEY TAKE IT. BUT I, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING SLIPPING TO THE CRACKS, BECAUSE WHY ARE, WHY HAVE I SEEN THIS CHANGE IN OTHER, OTHER NON TENANTS HANGING IN THE ALLEYS, HANGING ON THE SIDE? I'M WONDERING IF, OR WORRIED, OR, MY CONCERN IS, IS THERE'S SOME KIND OF PRESCRIPTION EXCHANGE OR DRUG EXCHANGE HAPPENING IN THE AREA THAT, THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE. SO I WANTED TO BRING THAT AS A, A NEW DYNAMIC. ASIDE FROM THE ISSUES THAT ARE DEALT WITH TODAY. WE'VE DEFINITELY SEEN THAT. UM, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IT. UH, AGAIN, I'LL ASK THE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE IN NEED THERE, IT'S A ASSISTED LIVING SITUATION. WELL, THEY NEED TO BE WHERE THESE ISSUES CAN BE HANDLED. THEY NEED MORE CARE, IN MY OPINION. SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS PROPERTY. UH, AGAIN, UH, I'VE BEEN THERE THE WHOLE TIME. IT'S BEEN THERE LONGER THAN I HAVE. UH, SO I, I'VE, BEFORE TODAY, I WAS HOPING TO SEE A CHANGE OR TURNAROUND ON THE PROPERTY AS FAR AS LESS OF THIS ACTIVITY THAT WE'RE DESCRIBING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED. YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PROPERTY MANAGER HAS BEEN CORDIAL. YES, SIR. THROUGH THE YEARS. RESPONSIVE THROUGH THE YEARS, YES. UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S LESS PEOPLE THERE NOW WORKING. THANK YOU. YEAH, I HAVE NO, NO, THERE'S NO BACK AND FORTH, OR HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE US OF THIS OR GET OUTTA MY PRIVATE. IT'S NEVER BEEN LIKE THAT. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN CORDIAL. MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS FRED ANDERS COMMENT. JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT, MADAM CHAIR. QUESTION, UH, OFFICER CONNELL, YOU MENTIONED, UH, THIS IS DAVID GARZA. YOU MENTIONED IN THE ONSET OF YOUR COMMENTS THAT, UM, THIS WAS, UM, A, AN ASSISTED FACILITY. YOU USE THAT WORD. UM, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? ARE THEY PREDOMINANTLY SENIOR CITIZENS IN THIS PROPERTY, OR ARE THEIR FAMILIES, OR YOU JUST USED THAT WORD, ASSISTED LIVING AS A TERM TO DESCRIBE THE PROPERTY? MY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS PROPERTY OVER THE YEARS, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN MALES FROM THE AGE OF LIKE, UM, MID TWENTIES TO SIXTIES, THAT HAVE SOME KIND OF DEFICIENCY IN THEIR THINKING OR THEIR ABILITIES. UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR, I MEAN, THEY DON'T HAVE A, A MISSION STATEMENT ON THEIR WALL. I'VE NEVER READ ONE OR NO, UH, FURTHER THAN THAT. BUT THAT I'M JUST DESCRIBING THE PATIENTS OR, OR RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE THROUGHOUT THE, THROUGHOUT THE DURATION THAT I'VE WORKED THERE. AND DO WE KNOW IF THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE PERSONALLY PAYING FOR THE RENT OR ARE THEY RECEIVING ANY FEDERAL OR GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE TO PAY FOR THEIR RENT? UM, I'VE NEVER BEEN IN PART OF ANY INVESTIGATION THAT ASKS THOSE QUESTIONS, BUT, UH, I'M SURE THAT SOMEBODY IN THE ROOM MIGHT KNOW THAT. WELL, MY POINT IS THAT IF THERE IS ANY GOVERNMENT SUBSIDY TO SUPPORT THIS PROPERTY, THEN THOUGH, THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WHOMEVER IS PROVIDING THAT ASSISTANCE SHOULD BE MADE AWARE OF IF THAT'S THE CASE. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. YES. BUT I CAN'T CONFIRM. I'VE NEVER DIRECTLY BEEN PART OF THAT QUESTION. [00:35:01] OKAY. THANK YOU. I I HEARD YOU SAY THAT THEY WERE DISPENSING MEDICATION. IT WAS MY, YOU KNOW, IN MY CONVERSATION THAT DAY, UH, THERE WAS PEOPLE THAT WERE COMING TO THE OFFICE AND SHE'D GET THEIR NAME. SHE'D GIVE A PANEL OF MEDICATION, THEY WOULD TAKE IT IN HER PRESENCE REVIEW, AND THEN THEY WOULD LEAVE. THAT HAPPENED ABOUT TWICE DURING MY MEETING. OKAY. DO THEY HAVE A LICENSE TO DISPENSE MEDICINE OR DO YOU KNOW, OR DO THEY HAVE A, A NURSE OR SOMETHING ON, ON DUTY THAT WOULD DISPERSE THE MEDICINE TO THE, TO THE, UH, OCCUPANTS? UH, THAT'S JUST WHAT I SAW. I CAN'T CONFIRM ANYTHING BEYOND WHAT I SAW. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. , ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THIS ROBERT TAPI, DO YOU HAVE, UH, WHAT WEEKLY DRIVE-BYS AND YOU JUST WATCHING ALL THIS TAKE PLACE? UH, I'M IN THE H E B AREA, UH, ON FREDERICKSBURG AND HILDEBRAND. THAT'S ONE OF OUR PROJECTS BECAUSE WE'RE IN THAT PARKING LOT. WE'RE ACROSS, THERE'S A PEAR TREE THAT, THAT WHAT WE CALL OUR DAY DRINKERS WILL SIT THERE AND CONGREGATE. WE GO TWICE A DAY. THEY KNOW MY DAYS OFF. THEY KNOW MY HOURS. I CAN GO THERE OFF DUTY 'CAUSE I LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY, AND I'LL SEE THEM THERE. UH, I KNOW WHEN WE HAD THE OFFICERS STABBED AT THE H E B, WE HAD A, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS, AND THIS IS ALWAYS A TOPIC. THEY'RE FRUSTRATED WITH THE SITUATION THERE. UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY, UH, THEY REALLY DON'T LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANNA GET INTO THE, UH, SITUATION OF THE PATIENTS THERE. BUT THEY ARE FRUSTRATED WITH THE HAPPENINGS IN THEIR STORE BECAUSE OF THE PATIENTS COMING OVER. SO WE'RE ALWAYS IN THAT PARKING LOT WHERE THEY'RE TWICE A DAY, WE'RE ALWAYS IN THE REGION. UM, I'VE HAD TO, I'VE STARTED NOW GOING UP THE ALLEYWAY. I NEVER HEARD THEY HAD TO DO THAT BEFORE. I HAVE SEEN THE, THE TRAFFIC DISSIPATE, UH, SINCE MY SPEAKING WITH THE, THE OWNER MANAGER. UH, BUT IT'S STILL AN ISSUE. UH, I'VE HAD COMPLAINTS FROM THE NEIGHBORS. LIKE I SAID, THERE WAS ONE SITUATION WHERE A MAN'S CUT IN HIS YARD, A A A, A CONSUMER FROM THAT PROPERTY GOES INTO HIS HOUSE, LAYS IN HIS BED, AND HE FINDS HIM THERE AND, AND HE'S INTOXICATED. WELL, THAT'S A POLICE ISSUE NOW. UM, SO THINGS LIKE THAT HAVE BEEN INCREASING AS WELL. UM, SO, WOW. OKAY. IF THERE ARE ANY ON ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, THANK YOU FOR COMING IN AND SPEAKING. WE APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. TAKE CARE. OKAY. THE NEXT PERSON ON THE LIST IS YMO. I'M SORRY, I CAN'T READ THE LAST NAME. GUILLERMO DECK. OH, OKAY. AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. UH, GUILLERMO DUCKETT. I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH THE FLUME LAW FIRM AND REPRESENT MARGARET, MARGARET VELASQUEZ, WHO, UH, IF IT'S ALL RIGHT WITH THE BOARD AT A CERTAIN POINT IN TIME, UH, PROBABLY JOIN ME. I IMAGINE YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS THAT I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER, UH, BASED ON TESTIMONY THAT I PREVIOUSLY HEARD THIS MORNING. UM, AND SO AT THAT POINT IN TIME THAT, UH, Y'ALL FEEL APPROPRIATE, SHE'LL JUST COME UP HERE, UH, AND HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTIONS. UH, WE WILL CALL HER, YOU KNOW, USUALLY WE HAVE ONE PERSON AT A TIME, UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIFIC. OKAY. WE'LL CALL HER NOW. SPELL YOUR LAST NAME FOR ME, MA'AM. IT'S D E K A T D E K A T. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. YOU CAN, UH, PRESENT YOUR CASE. CHAIRMAN. YES. UH, ARE YOU REPRESENTING, IS HE REPRESENTING THE COMPANY? HE'S REPRESENTING, I GUESS, THE OWNER, MARGARET OR THE PROPERTY MANAGER? Y YES. MARGARET VELASQUEZ. UM, THE PROPERTY, UH, PRIOR TO JUNE 7TH, 2022, WAS OWNED BY MARGARET VELASQUEZ, D B A HAVENS INN. SO THAT WAS THE LEGAL OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. THAT IS THE SUBJECT OF THE VIOLATIONS THAT WERE CITED. UM, AND HERE BEFORE THE BOARD THIS MORNING, UH, ON JUNE 7TH, THE PROPERTY ACTUALLY WAS SOLD. UH, THE NEW OWNERS IS HAVENS IN L L C AND LYDIA DEAL IS THE, UH, SOLE MEMBER OF THE L L C. SHE'S ALSO HERE THIS MORNING, BUT HAVENS IN L L C WAS NOT CITED, UH, IN ANY OF THE VIOLATIONS. UH, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO BRING FOR THE BOARD. SO THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THAT OPPORTUNITY. UH, BUT THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY INTERESTED, UM, IN THE, OF THE VIOLATIONS THAT WERE CITED, UH, AND WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THEM. SO THAT'S WHY, UM, MS. LYDIA DEAL IS HERE THIS MORNING. OKAY. SO WHEN DID, WHEN DID MARGARET OWN THE PROPERTY? UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS MARGARET'S OWNED THE PROPERTY FROM AROUND 1996 TO JUNE 7TH, 2022. THE PROPERTY, UH, IN THE BEXAR COUNTY PROPERTY RECORDS, YOU'LL SHOW THAT IT'S IN HER NAME SOLELY AS AN INDIVIDUAL OR AS A D B A OF WITH HAVENS INN. BUT, UH, HAVEN WAS IN WHAT YEAR WAS HAVEN AFTER [00:40:02] IT? IT CAME UNDER HER NAME. I WAS SEEN IN THE REPORT HERE HAVEN. IT WAS ONE AND ONE AND THE SAME AS, UH, GO AHEAD. Y YES, SIR. HAVEN'S INN, UH, WAS A D B A OF MARGARET VELASQUEZ. AND, UH, SO YOU SAY MARGARET VELASQUEZ WAS THE ONE SERVED INSTEAD OF HAVEN? WELL, DURING THE COURT, I, I BELIEVE, UH, HEARING THE DATES OF THE VISITS AND SOME OF THE CITATIONS, UM, I BELIEVE THE MAY FROM, UH, MAY 25TH VISIT AND THE CITATIONS, UH, WAS STILL, WHILE MARK WAS STILL, WHILE, UH, MS. VELASQUEZ OWNED THE PROPERTY, UH, AFTER JUNE 7TH, UH, THE NEW OWNER OF THE PROPERTY WAS HAVENS IN L L C. RIGHT. AND SO THE SUBSEQUENT VIOLATIONS THAT ARE ADDRESSED TO MARGARET VELASQUEZ AFTER JUNE 7TH, UM, TECHNICALLY IT'S, IT'S NOT CORRECT BECAUSE YOU'RE NO LONGER OWNER. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING TOO. UH, BUT THEY, THEY, THEY WERE SENT A NOTICE. WERE THEY NOT? WHO WOULD SEND US A NOTICE? HE, R L OR R VELASQUEZ, WHO'S, UH, WHO, WHO WHO WILL BE HERE DIRECTING THAT TO YOU, REPRESENTING WHO I'M, I'M REPRESENTING MARGARET VELASQUEZ HERE. I DO ALSO REPRESENT HAVENS AND L L C. SO, UH, IN ORDER TO, UH, IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING AS FAR AS THE ROLES, BUT THE, UH, THE L L C AS FAR AS I KNOW, WAS NEVER PART OF ANY CITATIONS, UH, UP TO THIS DATE. SO THEY WERE NEVER CITED? NO, SIR, SIR. THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. SO, UH, LEGAL, MAY I ASK YOU, HEY, UH, QUESTION MADAM CHAIR. UM, MY UNDERSTANDING, LIKE AN ORDER ANY CITATION GOTTEN REGARDLESS OF OWNER OF PROPERTY, DOES IT NOT GO WITH THE LAY OF THE LAND LIKE A COURT ORDER DOES? UH, IT DOES. THE, THE NOTICE IS AGAINST THE PROPERTY. AND, UH, GUILLERMO? YES, MA'AM. JUST TO CLARIFY, HAVENS IN L L C DID NOT COME INTO EXISTENCE UNTIL AT THE EARLIEST JUNE 7TH, 2022, CORRECT? NOT, UH, THE L L C EXISTED BEFORE JUNE 7TH. THE PROPERTY TRANSFER OCCURRED, UH, ON JUNE 7TH. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S THE DATE THAT THE DEEDED IS RECORDED IN BEXAR COUNTY. YES, MA'AM. SO, SO, UH, SO MARGARET WITH, UH, MARGARET VELAZQUEZ, D B A HAVENS IN, UH, THE PROPERTY IN BEAR CAD IS LISTED UNDER MARGARET VELAZQUEZ, NOT UNDER HAVENS AND L L C, CORRECT? I, I DID NOT CHECK THIS MORNING. I KNOW, UH, FROM DOING REAL ESTATE, IT TAKES V A D, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF TIME AFTER A, A DEED HAS BEEN RECORDED FOR IT TO PROCESS THROUGH THE SYSTEM IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE VISIBLE, UH, ON THE, UH, ON THEIR INTERNET SITE THAT YOU WOULD GO TO TO CHECK PROPERTY OWNERS. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO, UH, CLARIFY WITH, SO HAVENS, INC. L L C, DID IT EXIST PRIOR TO JUNE 7TH, 2022? AND ARE YOU SAYING THAT L L C IS THE CORRECT OWNER, EVEN THOUGH PRIOR TO THAT MARGARET VELASQUEZ WAS OPERATING UNDER A D B A? NOT, UH, AS AN L L C TO THE BEST OF MY, UH, RECOLLECTION, BECAUSE I FORMED THE L L C I DID DO IT BEFORE JUNE 7TH. I CAN CHECK THE, I'M HAPPY TO CHECK THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S WEBSITE, BUT, UH, I WOULD'VE DONE IT BEFORE A PROPERTY TRANSFER INTO THE L L C. UH, SECOND PART OF YOUR QUESTION, UP UNTIL JUNE 7TH, 2022, MARGARET VELASQUEZ, D B A HAVENS INN WAS THE RECORD OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. AFTER THAT DATE, UH, HAVENS INN L L C BECAME THE RECORD OWNER AND HAS OWNED AND OPERATED BY LYDIA DEAL. THE L L C IS OWNED AND OPERATED BY MS. DEAL. OKAY. SO FOR THE BOARD'S INFORMATION, UH, THE INITIAL INVESTIGATION AND THE INITIAL NOTICES, [00:45:02] UH, WERE ISSUED AGAINST THE RECORD PROPERTY OWNER. AND, UH, THOSE REMAIN VALID AS THE RE-INSPECTIONS WERE CONDUCTED REGARDING THOSE INITIAL NOTICES. DOES, DOES MARGARET VES, UH, VESQUEZ, EXCUSE ME, PRONUNCIATION, HAVE ANY PROPERTY RIGHTS TO HAVEN IN L L C? NO, SIR. THEY'RE ENTIRELY WITH THE, UH, ENTITY, THE L L C, AND THAT'S ENTIRELY 100% OWNED BY LYDIA DEAL. QUESTION DAVID GARZA? YES, SIR. WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THE TRANSFER? WHY THE TRANSFER IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL THIS? THE, THE, UH, THE TRANSFER OF THE PROPERTY HAD TO DO WITH, UH, DEALING WITH A LICENSING ISSUE WITH, UH, THE STATE AND JUST COINCIDED DURING THIS TIME OF INSPECTIONS? YES, I, I WASN'T REALLY NOT MADE AWARE OF THESE ISSUES REGARDING THE FACILITY. I WAS WORKING ON A SEPARATE ISSUE AT THE TIME, UH, REGARDING THE REORGANIZING THE END THE FACILITY TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH THE BEST BUSINESS STRUCTURES, UH, THAT WE HAVE SEEN, THAT I'VE WORKED WITH, WITH ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES. 'CAUSE IT JUST SMACKS ACROSS TO ME, THIS IS JUST ME PERSONALLY, LIKE IT'S A DEFENSIVE TECHNICALITY. I MISUNDERSTOOD, AND I CAN SEE WHERE YOU GET THAT IMPRESSION. IT'S VERY, VERY, VERY OBVIOUS TO ME THAT THAT COULD BE OH, SURE. I, AND, AND, AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION, WHAT WAS THE MOTIVE BEHIND THAT? WAS THAT SOME KIND OF MANEUVERING, IT WASN'T A, IT WASN'T A MANEUVERING FOR TO GET OUT OF ANYTHING TO DO WITH, UH, FIXING THE FACILITY. UM, AND EVENTUALLY WE'LL GET THERE, BUT, UM, I WILL REPRESENT TO YOU THAT MY CLIENT HAS BROUGHT EVIDENCE THAT ALL THE ISSUES HAVE BEEN RESOLVED. UM, AND THE TIMING OF THE TRANSFER, AGAIN, HAD TO DO WITH, UH, REAPPLY REAPPLICATION FOR A LICENSE, UH, DUE TO ISSUES WITH THE STATE, UM, THAT WE NEEDED TO, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, JUST GET INTO AN L L C TO APPLY FOR, UH, A LICENSE. SO LET ME ASK YOU, DOES MARY VELAZQUEZ HAVE ANY, UH, RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT PROPERTY TODAY? I DON'T BELIEVE SHE'S, YOU KNOW, SHE'S NO LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY. I BELIEVE SHE STILL HELPS AT THE FACILITY. UM, REPEAT THAT AGAIN. I DON'T BELIEVE SHE HAS, SHE HAS HAVENS. N L C HAS THE LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY. MARGARET VELASQUEZ STILL HELPS AT THE FACILITY, SO SHE'S STILL INVOLVED WITH THE FACILITY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. BOARD, IF WE COULD, SINCE WE'VE ESTABLISHED THE FACT THAT THE, UH, INSPECTIONS ARE VALID TO THE CURRENT OWNER, LET'S MOVE TO YOUR EXPLANATION ABOUT YOUR PLANS TO REPAIR OR WHAT YOU THINK IS, HAS BEEN DONE ALREADY, BASED ON YOUR COMMENT THAT THE REPAIRS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. I, LET'S TALK ABOUT THOSE REPAIRS. BUT GO AHEAD, MS. BROWN. I HAVE, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. YES, MA'AM. BEFORE YOU GO ONTO THAT IS MARGARET VELASQUEZ. AND WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE L L C HAYDEN HAVEN'S IN L L C. SO THAT'S THE NAME OF THE, ARE THEY ONE AND THE SAME? NO, MA'AM. I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT YOU KNOW IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE WHO'S ON THIRD OR WHO'S ON FIRST? YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M GONNA TRANSFER MY PROPERTY. MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS FRED ANDES. THIS PERSON, LEMME CLARIFY OR GET CLARIFICATION. YES, SIR. YOU STATED EARLIER IS THAT YOU REPRESENT THE PREVIOUS CLIENT OR OWNER. YES, SIR. YOU REPRESENT THE CURRENT OWNER? YES, SIR. ANYTHING THAT'S DECIDED, OR WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED WITH OUTSTANDING ISSUES, THE OWNER ASSUMES THE LIABILITIES, THE CURRENT OWNER, CORRECT. IF THEY ARE, UH, IF THEY'RE AGAINST AN ASSET THAT WAS PURCHASED, CORRECT? WELL, I MEAN, IN THIS CASE, SHE ASSUMED ALL THE PROBLEMS. I CAN REPRE I, I WILL REPRESENT TO THE BOARD TODAY THAT THE NEW OWNERSHIP IS NOT ATTEMPTING WITH THE STRUCTURE TO, UH, EVADE OR GET OUT OF ANY OBLIGATION OF FIXING THE PROPERTY. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, IT'S YOU'RE ASSUMING FOR BOTH OF THEM THAT THIS IS AN ONGOING ISSUE, EVEN THOUGH THE CURRENT OWNER RECOGNIZES IT. YES, SIR. THEY ASSUMED THAT AS SOON AS THEY BROUGHT THE PROPERTY, THE ALL THE DAMAGES AND STUFF LIKE THAT? YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. BUT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY, COUNSELOR, WITH YOU AND YOUR CLIENTS, SO WHATEVER THEY NEGOTIATE OR AGREE TO, THIS HAS TO GET FIXED. UNDERSTOOD. YES, SIR. AND AGAIN, UH, THE, THE PURPOSE IN NETLINE EXPLAINING THE, THE OWNERSHIP ISSUE, IT WAS NOT AN ATTEMPT TO, UH, EVADE FIXING THE PROPERTY. UH, THE NEW OWNER IS, [00:50:01] UH, AS YOU EVIDENCED BY THE, THE CHANGES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE. UM, THEY WANT TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND MAKE SURE THAT THE BUILDING IS UP TO CODE, THAT THEIR VIOLATIONS ARE TAKEN CARE OF. UM, AND THAT'S THEIR GOAL. UH, AND THE REPRESENTATIONS AND THE EVIDENCE THAT I HAVE HERE, UH, THAT THEY'VE BROUGHT WITH THEM, UH, THEY'D LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT, IF YOU CAN THROW IT UP THERE. I, I DON'T HAVE THAT WITH ME, BUT THEY REPRESENTED THAT ALL THE, I BELIEVE THERE'S EIGHT, UH, THAT I COUNTED HERE THIS MORNING THAT WERE BROUGHT UP, HAVE BEEN EITHER RESOLVED, UM, AND OR I BELIEVE THERE'S A PERMITTING ISSUE, UM, THAT AFTER THE RESOLUTION OF THAT, OF THE OVER, UH, THE OVERHANG, UM, THAT IS BEING RESOLVED. UM, BUT THERE'S SOME, UH, ISSUES WITH THE, UH, HISTORICAL ASPECTS OF THE BUILDING REGARDING GETTING THE PERMIT AGAIN AFTER THE FACT. BUT THEY ARE ATTEMPTING TO DO THAT AS WELL. UM, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A HODGEPODGE. I KNOW I'M BOUNCING AROUND A BIT. UM, I DON'T, NOT SURE IF IT'S BETTER JUST TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR GO AHEAD AND, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THE LEGAL THING NOW. SO YOU GO AHEAD AND PRESENT YOUR CASE, AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE CLEAR WILL NOW. YES, SIR. IF WE NEEDED TO FIGURE OUT THE LEGALITY OF WHO, WHAT, WHEN AND WHERE. YES, SIR. NOW THAT THAT'S DONE, YOU CAN MADAM CHAIR, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, I WANNA CALL AN EXECUTIVE A QUESTION. JUST A MOMENT. I WANNA CALL EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH OUR ATTORNEY. WE CAN GO ON EXECUTIVE SESSION. OKAY. IT IS NOW NINE, I'M SORRY, 10. IT'S 10. 10 10. AND, UH, THE BUILDING STANDARDS WILL, WILL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH THE ATTORNEYS. OKAY. WE'RE SORRY FOR THE INTERRUPTION JUST NOW, BUT THE CHAIR HAS RETURNED. OKAY, SIR, YOU CAN CONTINUE. MADAM CHAIR. OH, YES. UH, THIS IS LEGAL SAVIRA. UH, CAN, UH, Y'ALL PLEASE NOTE FOR THE RECORD, UH, THAT WAS JUST A RECESS TO, UH, DISCUSS AN ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUE. UH, NO, UH, LEGAL ISSUES WERE DISCUSSED, NOR, UH, WAS THERE ATTORNEY-CLIENT, UH, DISCUSSIONS INVOLVED. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. OKAY. UM, PERHAPS THE BEST WAY TO, UH, APPROACH THIS WITH THE BOARD IS MAYBE TO WORK, UH, FROM THE OFFICER AND THEN BACK INTO THE VIOLATIONS THAT WERE CITED, THE EIGHT, UH, THE EIGHT CITATIONS THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE. THEN, UM, IN REGARDS TO THE PROPERTY, UM, AS STATED BEFORE, MS. VELASQUEZ FIRST, UH, BEGAN, UH, OPERATING THE PROPERTY IN 1996. UM, MS. VELASQUEZ AND THE CURRENT OWNER, UH, MS. DIEHL, UH, ARE IN FULL SUPPORT OF HELPING TO DO ANYTHING THEY CAN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND KEEPING IT SAFE. UM, AS THE OFFICER, UH, WHO'S PREVIOUSLY UP HERE INDICATED THEY DO SERVE, UM, AN UNDERSERVED POPULATION, UH, AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY, THE, THE FOLKS THAT DO NEED HELP, UM, BUT THEY HAVE ALSO SEEN, UH, ISSUES AROUND THE FACILITY. UM, THIS IS NOT DONE. UH, THIS IS NOT BECAUSE OF ANYTHING THERE, YOU HAVE DONE INTERNALLY. ANY CHANGES THAT THEY'VE PUT IN PLACE, UH, THAT WOULD FOSTER THIS. HOWEVER, THEY, UH, AS HE INDICATED, AND I CAN REPRESENT TO THE BOARD TODAY, THAT THE, THE OWNERSHIP AND, UH, UH, MARGARITA, UH, ARE IN FULL SUPPORT OF ANYTHING THEY CAN DO TO HELP AND MAKE SURE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS KEPT, UH, SAFE AND ENJOYABLE BY ALL THE RESIDENTS. SO, UH, TO THE DEGREE THAT THAT WAS, UH, UH, HERE BEFORE THE BOARD AND AN ISSUE, UH, I'D HOPEFULLY LIKE TO, UH, PUT THE BOARD'S MIND AT REST THAT THEY'RE ON BOARD AND ANYTHING THAT THEY CAN WORK OUT WITH THE, ANY IDEAS, UH, THAT THEY CAN DO, UH, WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, THEY'RE WILLING AND HAPPY TO WORK WITH THEM TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF ALL THE RESIDENTS ON THE STREETS. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO GET INTO ANY SPECIFIC ISSUES. I CAN TELL YOU THAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT REGARDING, UH, INDIVIDUALS, UH, URINATING OR, OR DEFECATING, THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE NO LONGER AT THE FACILITY. UM, SO THEIR ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN, UH, TO ADDRESS THE SPECIFIC, KIND OF THE EGREGIOUS HIGHLIGHTS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP, UH, BY THE OFFICER. LET ME ASK YOU IF I MAY, TO ACTUALLY ADDRESS SPECIFICALLY THE FACILITY AND THE REPAIRS OF THE FACILITY. YES, SIR. AND I'LL ASK THE FIRST QUESTION BEING, UH, THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR AN, OR ACTUALLY AN ORDER FOR AN ENGINEERING REPORT. HAS THAT ENGINEERING REPORT BEEN PREPARED? NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. IT HAS NOT BEEN PREPARED YET. UM, IT IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE, UH, ONCE BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION. [00:55:01] I HAVE, UH, CERTAINLY TOLD MY CLIENTS IT HAS TO BE DONE. UM, AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE DONE. UH, AND IN SHORT ORDER, HOW MUCH TIME WOULD YOU REQUIRE TO DO THE REPAIRS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE INSPECTIONS OF THE CODE OFFICER? WELL, UH, IT'S BEEN REPRESENTED TO ME THAT THESE REPAIRS HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN DONE, AND THERE'S EVIDENCE HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO TODAY THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY COMPLETE, UH, BASED UPON, UH, THE SATISFACTION OF THE CODE OFFICER AS IF HE, UH, BELIEVES, NO, THEY'RE NOT DONE. UH, I, I UNFORTUNATELY HAVE TO DEFER THAT TO A CONTRACTOR AND OR AN ENGINEER, UM, TO DETERMINE WHAT, WHAT'S A GOOD TIMEFRAME TO FIX 'EM. UM, SO I I, I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU A 1690 DAYS TIMEFRAME. UM, I, TODAY, I THINK I CAN SAY THAT WE BELIEVE THEY'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT DONE. IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, IF THERE IS STILL SOME ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, UM, IT WILL BE ADDRESSED BY, AND I CAN PROVIDE THE BOARD, UM, THAT THE TIMEFRAME FROM THE CONTRACTOR, ONCE, ONCE ONE IS BROUGHT BACK IN TO FIX WHATEVER REMEDIES THE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER SEES, THAT IT WOULD BE YOUR BELIEF THEN, AS WHAT YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, THAT WITHIN 30 DAYS ALL THESE CODE ISSUES COULD BE RESOLVED. I, I, I BE AS OF TODAY? YES. 'CAUSE I BELIEVE THEY ARE PROPER ANSWER. , I CHAIR FRED AND MS. S, UM, MS. HERE? YES. UH, COULD WE, UH, COULD THE DAKOTA OFFICE COME AND, UH, PRESENT THAT? HE STATED THAT, UH, IT, TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, ALL THE VIOLATIONS HAVE BEEN REPAIRED, RIGHT? YES, SIR. UH, COULD HE PLEASE IF YOU COULD, HE ALREADY STATED, I BELIEVE THAT, I BELIEVE THE CODE OFFICER ALREADY STATED THAT THEY WERE NOT COMPLETED. IS THAT CORRECT? AND THIS IS DALE RUSSELL, CODE ENFORCEMENT SUPERVISOR. YES. AS OF AUGUST 11TH, OUR LAST INSPECTION, THEY WERE STILL IN VIOLATION. ALL OF THE VIOLATIONS. EVERYTHING. THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT YOU HEARD, MR. ATTORNEY? YES, SIR. I, I, I DON'T, MA'AM, DON'T THINK THAT YOU HAVE ALL THE FACTS. LET'S, LET'S HEAR FROM, UH, THE OWNER MAYBE, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT YOU HAVE ALL THE FACTS. YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU BELIEVE ALL THE, THE, UH, ISSUES HAVE BEEN DONE AND THE CODE OFFICER SAYS, NO, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA TAKE HIS WORD. SO I THINK, UM, I GET, I WANNA HEAR FROM THE OWNERS FIRST OKAY. BEFORE WE, BEFORE WE DO A MOTION. OKAY. UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ABSOLUTELY. WE APPRECIATE YOUR MADAM CHAIR. YES. BEFORE WE DO THAT, MAY I ASK THE COUNSELOR JUST ONE QUESTION? YES. LY, ABSOLUTELY. IS THERE ANY QUESTION OR INFORMATION THIS BOARD HAS NOT ASKED YOU THAT YOU MUST TELL US ABOUT? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF, SIR. OKAY. NO. . THANK YOU. YES. UM, NOT BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO PARTIES, AS WE'VE KIND OF CLARIFIED HERE THIS MORNING. UM, WHO WOULD Y'ALL LIKE TO HEAR? UH, MAR, MARGARET OR LYDIA? THE NEW OWNER. I TOLD YOU THIS IS LIKE, WHO'S ON FIRST? I KNOW. YOU KNOW, UM, I GUESS THE, THE LYDIA, UH, YEAH. THE CURRENT OWNER? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. WHO IS THE CURRENT OWNER? WHERE ARE YOU? IT'S, UH, LYDIA DIEHL, WHO IS THE OWNER OF HAVENS IN L L C. OKAY. I'M LYDIA DIE. OKAY. YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. LYDIA DEAL. OWNER OF HAVENS, N L L C. AND YOUR ADDRESS, MA'AM? ONE 10 MARY LOUISE DRIVE. MY HOME ADDRESS IS THREE 14 SHARON DRIVE. OKAY. AND SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT, PLEASE. 3 1 4 SHARON DRIVE. ALRIGHT, MA'AM, YOU CAN ADJUST THE MIC TOO. OH, SORRY. THAT'S PROBABLY GOOD. OKAY. I, I'M WANNA HEAR YOUR, WHAT IS YOUR RELATIONSHIP TO, UH, MARGARET? MARGARET IS THE OWNER OF A, OF A WHAT? YOU CAN'T HEAR YOU. WHAT DID YOU DO? OH, SORRY. MY BAD. OKAY, I WON'T TOUCH. ALRIGHT. SO WHAT IS YOUR RELATIONSHIP TO THE OWNER? TO MARGARET? SHE'S MY MOTHER. IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANTED. KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR. I HAVE NO, THANK YOU. I'M VERY PROUD OF HER. OKAY. UM, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WHAT IS, UH, YES, I DO. IT WAS STATED EARLIER FROM CODE THAT YOU HAVE NOT COMPLETED. YOUR ATTORNEY STATED THAT YOU HAD EVIDENCE THAT IT WAS COMPLETED. YES, SIR. AS OF, IF YOU CAN PRESENT IT, IS COUNSEL SEEN [01:00:01] ANY EVIDENCE THAT SHE'S PRESENTING? IS IT NECESSARY FOR COUNSEL TO SEE? YEAH, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK FIRST. OKAY. IF YOU CAN GIVE THAT TO STAFF SO THEY CAN GIVE IT TO COUNSEL, AND THEN WE'LL STILL CONTINUE WITH SOME QUESTIONS. OKAY. I'VE GOT SOME, UH, SERIOUS QUESTIONS TO ASK YOU ABOUT THIS. OKAY. BUT I KIND OF NEED TO LOOK AT THIS WHILE, I MEAN THE, I HAVE THE VIOLATIONS AND NO, NO, YOU EVIDENCE OF THE STUFF THAT WAS FIXED. OKAY. COUNSEL, I HAVE PICTURES. OUR LEGAL COUNSEL HAS TO LOOK AT THAT TO SEE IF IT'S OKAY. I, TO FOLLOW UP ON YOUR QUESTION, THIS IS DAVID GARZA. IF ALL THAT INFORMATION, I'M STILL WAITING FOR HER TO COME BACK. MS. MS? YEAH, SAME QUESTION. UH, MS. LYDIA, IF YOU HAVE EVIDENCE OF WORK BEING DONE, WHY DOESN'T THE CODE OFFICER HAVE IT? WHY DID YOU SUBMIT THAT TO THE CITY? OKAY. THAT WAS, UH, AS OF AUGUST 11TH IS WHEN HE CAME. THE, SOME OF THOSE WERE ADDRESSED AND FIXED AFTER THAT. SO TO HIS KNOWLEDGE, HE HAS NOT SEEN THAT. I MEAN, I, I WELCOME Y'ALL TO COME BACK AND REINSPECT AT WHATEVER CONVENIENCE IT'S AVAILABLE. I GUESS MY QUESTION WAS JUST WHY HE HAD NOT SEEN IT SINCE YOU KNEW THIS CASE WAS COMPLET. THAT WAS OF AUGUST 11TH. TODAY IS AUGUST, WHAT? 18TH? 19TH. I MEAN, THAT'S SEVEN DAYS. IT'S BEEN ADDRESSED AFTER THAT. THIS IS FRED ANDIS. I'M GONNA RESUME MY QUESTIONING, MA'AM. UM, YOU HAVE ON, ON RECORD, IT'S BEEN MADAM CHAIR THIS, THAT YOU HAVE DISABILITY PERSONS ON THE PROPERTY, CORRECT? I HAVE. WHAT DID YOU THE PERSONS THAT, UM, ARE LIVING HERE ARE DISABILITY. THEY'RE MENTALLY CHALLENGED. MAYOR YES. FALL UNDER THE DISABILITY. CORRECT. NOT A POINT OF ORDER MENTALLY CHALLENGED MALES. OKAY. WITH THAT IN IN MIND, JUST A MOMENT. UH, FRED, WE HAVE A POINT OF ORDER HERE. YEAH? YES. CAN WE LET THE PERSON ADDRESS, UH, WHAT, WHAT SHE SPEAKS, UH, SHE'S GONNA SPEAK ABOUT CONCERNING THE, AND THEN ASK HER QUESTIONS. YEAH. AND LET THE RESPONDENT LET THE COMPANY LET HER SPEAK AND SHOW HER, GIVE HER THAT, UH, PRIVILEGE. OKAY. I THINK HE, HE WANTS HER TO AF AFTER THAT, THEN WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS, WANTS TO SPEAK TO, TO THE, UH, VIOLATIONS BEFORE YOU ASK YOUR QUESTIONS. GO AHEAD, MA'AM. I'M SORRY, WHAT? SHE MIGHT ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS FOR. WHAT IS IT THAT YOU'RE ASKING? ALL RIGHT. THE, THE POINT OF ORDER WAS THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING TO THE VIOLATIONS AND PRESENTING EVIDENCE, BUT THE COUNSEL HAS TO LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE PRIOR. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT WE WERE WAITING ON RIGHT BEFORE SHE CAN SPEAK ON ANYTHING THE QUESTIONS WE'RE ASKING HER RELATE NOT TO THAT YET. OKAY. OKAY. UH, MADAM CHAIR, JUST TO CLARIFY, UM, IT, IT'S FINE, UH, FOR, UH, MS. VELASQUEZ TO, UH, PRESENT THE INFORMATION. UH, HOWEVER, UH, BOARD MEMBER ZUNIGA IS CORRECT. UH, THE OWNER IS ENTITLED TO, UH, PRESENT ALL THEIR TESTIMONY. EXACTLY. AND THEN, UH, WE MOVE ON TO QUESTIONS. OKAY? OKAY. OKAY. THAT, OKAY. YOU'RE GONNA PULL 'EM. OH, OKAY. WE ALSO HAVE PHOTOS THAT YOU CAN OH, OKAY. WELL, THAT ADDRESS, WELL, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THEM FIRST TO SEE WHICH ONE. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. [01:05:01] ALL RIGHT. THIS PARTICULAR PICTURE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING UP HERE, YOU'VE GOTTA SPEAK UP, MA'AM. THAT'LL BE, HANG ON ONE SECOND. OKAY. WHAT PICTURE IS THIS RELATED TO? ON OUR PICTURES. OKAY. HANG ON. HANDRAILS AND GUARDS. THAT WOULD BE 3 0 5 0.5. ALL STRUCTURAL. I'M LOOKING AT OUR PICTURES. THE, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER TOOK 3 0 4 0.4. COMPARE THEM. YEAH, I THINK THERE WAS A PICTURE THAT WAS TAKEN BEFORE THAT SHOWED IT IN DISREPAIR. AND THIS IS THE REPAIRED PHOTO. WAS THIS THE, THE DOOR FRAME? NO, NO, THIS WOULD BE, MA'AM, UH, I THINK WHAT THE CHAIR IS ASKING IS WHAT PICTURES DOES THIS RELATE TO IN THE PICTURES THAT WERE PRESENTED? DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW WHICH ONE THAT ONE IS? THAT ONE IS THE THREE. OH, I GUESS IF YOU WANNA KNOW THE ACTUAL NUMBER. NO, NO, NO, MA'AM. ON OUR PICTURES, UHHUH , WHEN WE, WHEN THE, UH, CODE OFFICER PUT UP PICTURES. OKAY. RIGHT. DO YOU KNOW WHICH ONE THAT, THAT YOU'RE SHOWING REFERS TO AS THE PICTURE? THAT YES, IT HAD, I I DON'T, THE PICTURE THAT THEY HAD PUT UP PRIOR. RIGHT. IT'LL SAY 16 THREE. IT'LL SAY 16, I THINK AS THE ACTUAL 16, UH, DOOR NUMBER. NO, MA'AM. 16 ON OUR SIDE WOULD BE THE STAIRS. UM, SHE DOESN'T HAVE THAT SLIDE, BUT IT, WELL, THERE WAS A, A PHOTO THAT'S HAD, HOLD ON. HOLD ON, JESSE, PLEASE. LET'S SEE. WELL, JESSE, WE'RE TRYING TO RELATE TO THE WORK THAT SHE SAYS HAS BEEN DONE TO THE PICTURES THAT WERE SHOWN EARLIER. IT HAS TO COINCIDE, OR I CAN JUST STATE WHICH ONES THOSE. CORRECT. IT WOULD BE THE BEFORE WOULD BE THE ONE WE TOOK AND THE SLIDE THAT WE GAVE EARLIER, BECAUSE IT'S DONE BY NUMBERS TO WHAT THIS ONE IS HERE. THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE FINISHED PRODUCT. SO WE WANNA SEE THE PRIOR PRODUCT, IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING. IS I I'M NOT SEEING THE EXACT PICTURE YOU HAVE. NO, NO. IT WON'T BE THE EXACT PICTURE. I SEE. THE CLOSEST WOULD BE 23. SLIDE 23 WOULD BE THE CLOSEST. UM, IF, IF YOU MA'AM CAN LOOK AT THE MONITOR, I DO BELIEVE IT'S, DO YOU GUYS HAVE IT ON THE MONITOR? NO, NOT YOURS, MA'AM. OUR SLIDE. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE SAME PICTURES, SIR. WE'RE WORKING ON IT. SHE WASN'T GIVEN A COPY OF THE PRESENTATION BEFORE. RIGHT. YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? RIGHT. I WANNA SEE WHAT WAS THE COMPLAINT AND WHAT WAS THE FINISHED. ABSOLUTELY. AND SEE IF THAT MEETS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT BEFORE THIS MORNING. I DON'T BELIEVE MY CLIENTS HAD EVER SEEN THOSE PICTURES. OKAY. AND SO THERE'S NOT A, IS IT ON A, SIR, IF YOU COULD LOOK AT THE MONITOR. IS IT UP THERE ANYWHERE WE'RE SCROLLING THE SLIDES. OUR, YEAH, WE'RE SCROLLING THROUGH 'EM TO TRY AND FIND THE CLOSEST ONE TO THAT PICTURE. AND I THINK IT WOULD BE 23 WOULD PROBABLY BE THE CLOSEST OR 26. SEE HOW IT'S, SO 1626. THAT'S THE ONE I SAID. OKAY. I BELIEVE WE FOUND THIS ONE. SO THANK Y'ALL. THANK YOU BOARD FOR YOUR PATIENCE. WELL, NO, WE WANNA MATCH 67 IS THE SLIDE NUMBER. WHAT IS THE SLIDE NUMBER? MS. STRANDIS, MAY I ASK YOU IF YOU WOULD MIND SIX, SEVEN, LETTING HER RUN THROUGH ALL THE PHOTOGRAPHS? UH, BECAUSE ON THIS PARTICULAR PHOTOGRAPH, UH, THAT IS UNSATISFACTORY REPAIR. SO LET HER RUN THROUGH ALL THE, OKAY. IF YOU DON'T MIND, WE'LL DO THAT INSTEAD OF TRYING TO MATCH 'EM RIGHT NOW. YEAH, JUST OKAY, I'LL DO THAT. OKAY, MA'AM, IF YOU WOULD GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH ALL YOUR, UH, PRESENTATION, UH, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND ASK SPECIFICS ABOUT ANY ONE OF THE SLIDES OR ANY ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU PRESENT TO US. OKAY. UH, MADAM CHAIR, MA'AM? YES. I THINK THE QUESTION HERE IS DID YOU GET A PERMIT TO DO ALL THIS WORK? YEAH, WE'RE GONNA GET THERE. WE'RE GONNA GET THERE. OBJECT. GO AHEAD, MA'AM. EX, EXPLAIN YOUR PICTURES PLEASE. UM, THAT WOULD BE NUMBER 19. AND THAT WAS TO FIX THE DOORWAY. AND THAT, LET'S SEE, WHICH ONE IS THAT? IT NEEDED TO BE TREATED EXTERIOR SERVICES, WINDOW FRAMES, DOORWAYS, THAT WOULD BE PROTECTIVE TREATMENT. I GUESS 3 0, 4 0.2, WHERE THE DOORWAYS AND THE NUMBER I THINK WAS MISSING, WHICH IS NOW UP AND THE DOORWAY HAS BEEN TREATED. AND THIS PICTURE HERE IS IN RESPONSE TO THE WALKWAY, THE STRUCTURAL, LET'S SEE, 3 0, 4 0.4. [01:10:02] CAN YOU DESCRIBE SOME, WHAT, WHAT'S BEEN DONE IN THESE PICTURES? UM, I DON'T KNOW WHICH SLIDE IT WAS THAT YOU SAW PRIOR IN, IN Y'ALL'S, BUT IT'S IN THE PICTURE THAT WAS SHOWN BEFORE. THE WHOLE WALKWAY WAS LIKE, UH, YOU COULD SEE THE BOARDS. THEY WERE GONE AND THEY REPLACED IT. NO. CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE REPAIRS THAT YOU DID? THE WALKWAY, THEY REINFORCE THE WALKWAY TO PUT SOME IN. I MEAN, I'M NOT, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE TERMINOLOGY, WHAT THE EXACT THEY USE TO FIX IT, BUT WE DO WANT TO GET AN ENGINEER NOW AT THIS POINT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ALL, UH, SOUND. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S THE NEXT STEP. IT DOESN'T HELP US. THAT DOESN'T HELP US, MA'AM, BECAUSE YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE WALKWAY, SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT PICTURES YOU'RE REFERRING TO. OKAY. YOU MIGHT HAVE TAKEN A PICTURE OF A GOOD WALKWAY WHERE THE CODE OFFICER TOOK A PICTURE OF A BAD WALKWAY. SO WE ARE TRYING TO ASK YOU FOR COMPARISONS AND WE ARE TRYING TO DETERMINE, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE OTHER PICTURES AND I CAN TELL YOU, AND WE'RE TRYING TO DETERMINE WHAT WAS DONE TO REPAIR THIS DRIVE, THIS WALKWAY. MM-HMM. , UH, IF I COULD SEE THE OTHER PICTURE, MAYBE. UH, THIS IS TO MY KNOWLEDGE, IN GOOD CONDITION NOW, AS FAR AS IT WAS UNSTABLE, I GUESS, PRIOR, AND THEY MADE IT STABLE. THIS IS A PICTURE OF ACTUALLY, OF THE CRACKED UP ON, LET ME SEE, THE CRACKS WAS STILL THERE. OH, OKAY. UPSTAIRS ON OUR EAST SIDE OF THE COMPLEX THAT THEY WERE, UH, RIGHT PAST THE WALKWAY, ACTUALLY, WHERE THE STAIRS ARE. SO THIS IS ALSO, UM, LET'S SEE, WHICH ONE? FIXTURES ZERO 5.4. I'M LOOKING AT HERE. THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S REPAIRED TO ME, MA'AM. IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY PUT SOME CONCRETE IN A TUBE AND WENT OVER THE CRACK. OKAY. I MEAN, THAT'S YOUR OPINION. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT ALL ENTAILED AS FAR AS THAT. I'M JUST TAKING A PICTURES OF WHAT I SAW THAT WAS, LOOKED LIKE IT HAD ATTEMPTED TO BE FIXED. I ALSO HAVE EXTERIOR WALL PICTURES OF THE STRUCTURE OUTSIDE ON THE FRONT THAT I DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF THE EXACT MATERIAL THAT WAS USED TO, UH, WELL, WHO, WHO DID THE WORK FOR YOU, MA'AM? WAS IT A CONTRACTOR? OUR MAINTENANCE, UH, OUR MAINTENANCE MAN THAT WORKS THERE. WHAT? IS HE A LICENSED CONTRACTOR? I DON'T HAVE HIS LICENSE WITH ME. NO, MA'AM. I'M WELL, WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU KNOW FOR SURE? LET GO AHEAD, MADAM CHAIR, IF PLEASE. I, THIS WAS ALL TRYING, LET LET HER CONTINUE GOING THROUGH THE SLIDES. GO AHEAD. UH, BECAUSE SHE'S THUS FAR FROM AN ENGINEERING POINT OF VIEW, I'M, I'M TALKING ABOUT MY ENGINEERING POINT OF VIEW. SHE'S NOT PROVIDING SUFFICIENT INFORMATION FOR ME, BUT SHE NEEDS TO SHOW ME THE REST OF THE SLIDES. SURE. FOR ME TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING. SURE. GO AHEAD. IF I CAN DO THAT. PLEASE GO AHEAD. YEAH, YEAH, OF COURSE. THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE SIDE VIEW WHERE ALSO THERE WAS SOME CRACKS THAT WERE FIXED. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ZOOM IN, BUT THAT, THAT WAS SHOWING THAT, UH, ALSO CRACKS SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SAW IN THE PREVIOUS PICTURE THAT WE HAD FIXED, SUCH AS THAT. THAT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE, BUT IT'S, IT'S KIND OF LIKE ON THE RIGHT, THERE'S A WHITE-ISH. THAT'S WHERE HE TRIED TO REPAIR THE, THE CRACK ON THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING. OKAY. AND AGAIN, WE WELCOME TO COME OUT AND THEY CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT, UH, WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO REPAIR OR REPAIR SINCE THE 11TH WHEN THE GENTLEMAN WAS THERE LAST, OR I BELIEVE IT WAS A LADY OFFICER WAS THERE LAST. WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT I'D LOVE TO BE COMPLIANT AND THE ENGINEER SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO ASAP, WHICH I'M WILLING TO DO AS THE NEW OWNER AND, AND WHATEVER ELSE WE CAN DO TO MAKE THIS RIGHT. ARE THERE PICTURES OF THE STAIRS? DO HAVE PICTURES OF THE STAIRS? LET'S SEE. I DO, BUT I DID NOT SUBMIT THEM TO, THIS IS AN EMAIL THAT I HAD SENT TO THE HISTORIC, UH, TO GET THE PERMIT FOR THAT. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THE LADY, I DON'T KNOW. SHE SAID SHE WAS GONNA BE OUT OF THE OFFICE UNTIL YESTERDAY. AND I SENT THIS LIKE LAST WEEK, AND I HAVE YET TO HEAR, I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S GOT A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS YET, BUT THERE IS PICTURES [01:15:01] OF THE STAIRS WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO ZOOM AND UNFORTUNATELY IT'S JUST A SMALLER PICTURE. CAN YOU BLOW THAT UP? ANY MADAM CHAIR? CAN I, UH, INTERRUPT HERE FOR A SECOND? CAN WE HAVE CODE UP HERE FOR JUST A MINUTE? UH, DOES YOU SEE, CAN YOU SEE THE CHAIR? THE STAIRS? YES. OKAY. ON THE PHOTOGRAPHS, IT, IT ONLY SHOWS, UH, APPEARS TO BE THE BOTTOM STEPS. THE RUNS, YES. OKAY. IS THERE A THRESHOLD, I MEAN, NOT A THRESHOLD, BUT A, A, UM, BALCONY AND THEN ANOTHER SET OF STEPS? OR IS IT A STRAIGHT SET OF STEPS? NO, THE, THE STEPS COME UP TO A LANDING. OKAY. A LANDING AND THEN GO. SO THIS WOULD BE, SO THESE ARE JUST OFF OF ONE OF THE, THAT'S WHAT I WANNA CLARIFY. THESE ARE TWO THAT LOOKS LIKE, YEAH, THAT'S THE, THOSE ARE THE BOTTOM LANDINGS, AND THEN IT GOES UP TO THE SECOND FLOOR. AND THE ONES IN YOUR PHOTO ARE JUST OF THE STEP, NOT THE HOLE. THE, THE STEP, THE BRACKET AND THE CONNECTION POINTS. ALL RIGHT. I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A LANDING ON. OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM. MA'AM, YOU CAN COME BACK UP. UH, HAVE YOU FINISHED YOUR PRESENTATION? UH, YES. OKAY. I'LL RESUME MY QUESTIONING THEN. BASED OFF OF THE STEPS HERE AND THE STEPS IN THE PHOTO AND THE PHOTO HERE, LIKE, THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO CLARIFY THE PRESENTED PHOTOS FROM THE CODE. COMPLIANCE ONLY SHOWED A PORTION OF STEPS. OKAY. I WAS GONNA ASK YOU, YOU ARE A LICENSED FACILITY TO HANDLE PERSONS WITH DISABILITY. HOW DO YOU MEAN LICENSE? LIKE FOR THERE'S AN ASSISTED LIVING THAT, UH, STATE LICENSE YES, MA'AM. THAT WE WERE INITIALLY HAVING PROBLEMS WITH, WHICH IS WHY WE HIRED MR. UH, GUILLERMO, UH, ETT HERE AND ADDRESSING A LOT OF THESE ISSUES IS BEING INCOMPLIANT WITH THAT AS WELL. WELL, THE REASON I ASK IS 'CAUSE MOST PLACES THAT ACCEPT, LIKE, UH, LIVING ASSISTING MM-HMM. ARE LICENSED. RIGHT. OKAY. SO YOU FOR 26 YEARS IN THE PAST, SINCE RIGHT BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, UH, WE HAVE IT. SO THAT'S, WE'VE BEEN IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT FOR LIKE TWO YEARS NOW. OKAY. SO THOSE STEPS THAT ARE SITTING THERE, RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOU, THAT'S ONE OF OUR PHOTOS. OKAY. OKAY. AND THE REASON I WAS ASKING YOU, SEE THE NUMBER ON THAT IS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO RELATE SOME OF YOUR PHOTOS TO THE NUMBERS WE HAVE. THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS ABOUT. AND CORRELATION BEFORE AND AFTER. WITH THIS HERE, YOU'RE A FACILITY THAT HAS A LICENSE AND I, UH, FOR DISABILITY PERSONNEL, CORRECT? NO. WOULD THAT PERSONNEL RESIDENTS. RESIDENTS WHO HAVE A DISABILITY, SIR? UH, THE LEGAL [01:20:01] STATUS OF THE FACILITY IS THERE, THERE'S AN APPLICATION PENDING WITH THE STATE FOR A LICENSE TO BE REISSUED TO THE FACILITY. SO TO BE REISSUED. RIGHT. BUT YOU WERE LICENSED THE BUILDING. THE BUILDING WAS THIS WAY PRIOR WAS LICENSED? YES. YES. OKAY. YOU HAVE AN APPLICATION PENDING, RIGHT? OKAY. YES, SIR. WITH THAT IN MIND, LEMME ASK THE A D A SINCE THESE ARE DISABILITY, THE PERSONNEL ARE CLASSIFIED AS DISABILITY, WE ALL AGREE. WOULD THAT BE FAIR TO SAY THE PEOPLE LIVING THERE HAVE A DISABILITY AND THEY DON'T ALL HAVE THE SAME MENTAL NO, IT'S NOT THE SAME MATTER. THEY'RE CLASSIFIED AT COUNSEL, THEY'RE ALSO SUPPORTING. WOULD THAT BE ACCURATE TO SAY? I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A MIXED GROUP. ANYBODY WHO NEEDS ANY FORM OF ASSISTANCE IN THEIR LIVING, NOT FOR, FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER CAN, CAN LIVE THERE. AND SO NOT ALL THE RESIDENTS, UH, TO YOUR QUESTION WOULD QUALIFY AS DISABLED. YOU DO HAVE, HAVE, BUT THERE ARE SOME THAT WOULD RIGHT. WITH THAT IN MIND, AS LONG AS YOU HAVE ONE PERSON THAT FALLS IN THE CATEGORY, I'M A GENERAL CONTRACTOR. I DEAL IN RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, AND INDUSTRIAL. THE REQUIREMENT FOR AN A D A FOR ONE PERSON, ARE YOU IN COMPLIANT WITH A D A RULES THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW AS A CITY AS WELL? SURE. TO MY KNOW, TO OUR KNOWLEDGE AT TODAY, REPRESENTING TO THE BOARD, THE FACILITY IS EVEN WITH THE CODE COMPLIANCE SAYING YOU'RE NOT, UH, CODE OFFICERS SAYING YOU'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE AT THIS TIME. I UNDERSTAND THAT ON AUGUST 11TH, THAT HIS OPINION WAS THAT THEY, THEY WERE NOT IN COMPLIANCE. UH, BASED ON WHAT MY CLIENT HAS TOLD ME AND WHAT SHE'S PROVIDED, SHE BELIEVES THAT THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE A D A AS OF TODAY. THERE WAS MORE ISSUES THAT WERE CITED ON THAT DAY AS WELL. SO THOSE HAVEN'T BEEN ADDRESSED YET BECAUSE WE WERE ADDRESSING JUST THE ONES INTO THIS HEARING. BUT WHEN THEY CAME THAT DAY, THEY ALSO WROTE OTHER VIOLATIONS, SO THOSE PROBABLY HAVE NOT BEEN DONE. OKAY. YOU STATED THAT YOU BELIEVE EVERYTHING IS UP TO CODE. HOLD, HOLD ON WITH THAT PATCH YOU SHOWED US. CAN WE GO TO SLIDE THREE? I DO BELIEVE WHAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR RECORD THAT YOU SHOWED US MM-HMM. IS SLIDE THREE, AND YOU'LL SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT RIGHT THERE. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S THE WALKWAY. YES. DID YOU SEE THEM WHEN THEY PUT THE PATCH IN, PUT THE PROPER REINFORCEMENT IN THE CONCRETE? I WAS NOT STANDING OVER HIM, SIR. I DO, I CANNOT SAY I'M NOT A CONTRACTOR, BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, IT WAS DONE CORRECTLY AND I HAVE SINCE WALKED ON IT MYSELF SEVERAL TIMES. IT DOES SEEM SECURE. AND DID YOU SEE HIM PROPERLY PUT YES. AND I'M GONNA CUT. HOLD ON. DAD IS CONSIDERED A WALKWAY, CORRECT? THAT'S A SIDEWALK OR A, A BALCONY. THE BALCONY IS ALSO CONSIDERED CANTILEVER IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY, A CANTILEVER. DID YOU SEE HIM WHEN HE'S PUT THOSE BRAND NEW MEMBERS IN, DID YOU SEE HIM GO INTO PAST THE WALL TO ATTACH IT BEYOND THE DAMAGED AREA? I DID NOT PERSONALLY SEE HIM DO THAT, NO. SO WHAT YOU ARE BASING COMPLETION ON IS BECAUSE YOU CAN WALK ON IT AGAIN. I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO GET THE ENGINEER, SIR, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK WE NEED AT THIS POINT TO, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. CORRECT. DID YOU PULL A PERMIT? I DID NOT. I DID NOT. DID HE PULL A PERMIT? I CANNOT ANSWER FOR ANYONE BUT MYSELF. I CANNOT. I DID NOT. I'M IN, IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO GET IT DONE THE CORRECT WAY THROUGH MS. RACHEL FROM THE HISTORIC, UH, PRESERVATION. YES. COUNSEL. SORRY. UH, REGARDING THE QUESTION, I BELIEVE THE BEST WAY TO ANSWER THAT IS CHRONOLOGICALLY THAT, UH, A PERMIT WAS REQUESTED YET BUT DENIED BECAUSE OF THE HISTORICAL, UM, NATURE OF THE BUILDING. THE CONTRACTOR, UH, THEN PROCEEDED TO DO THE WORK AS HE, IT WAS FELT TO, UH, AND I SAY CONTRACTOR, APPARENTLY IT WAS A MAINTENANCE, SOMEBODY ON SITE WHO ACTUALLY DID THE WORK IN ORDER TO REMEDY THE SITUATION. SO AN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, THE PERMIT WAS NOT ISSUED PRIOR TO WORK BEING DONE. UH, IT WAS REQUESTED BUT DENIED FOR EXPEDIENCY'S SAKE. THEY WENT AHEAD AND TRIED TO FIX IT AS FAR AS IS IT QUALIFYING, UH, FOR ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO, FOR THE BOARD THAT NEEDS TO KNOW, HEY, DOES THIS MEET ALL OF, UH, THE CODE AND EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE? I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HERE [01:25:01] FROM UH, CAN DEFINITIVELY TELL YOU THAT IT DOES, BECAUSE THERE WAS NO PERMIT ISSUED AND THERE'S NO, UH, ENGINEERING REPORT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE. SO WE'RE, SHE'S, UH, AS ANY OF US, WHEN WE HAVE WORK DONE MAKE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE EXPERTS, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE RELIANT ON THE PERSON WHO DID THE WORK TO SAY, HEY, I DID IT. BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY EVIDENCE RIGHT NOW TO, UH, AS FAR AS AN ENGINEERING REPORT. UH, AND HER TESTIMONY REGARDING IT APPEARS COMPLETE IS THE BEST THAT SHE PROBABLY CAN. UH, OKAY. YOU REFERRED TWICE SHE SAID IT AND YOU SAID IT. I DON'T, I KNOW CODE SAID IT. IS THIS A HISTORICAL BUILDING? WE'RE IN THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT. WE ARE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. WE'RE NOT A HISTORICAL LANDMARK BY ANY MEANS. WE ARE IN, WE'RE RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN HISTORIC DISTRICT. YOU DON'T PULL A PERMIT FROM A HISTORIC DISTRICT, MA'AM. WELL, SIR, I'VE GOTTEN SO MANY DIFFERENT, UH, CAN ANSWERS ABOUT THIS QUESTION, SO, ALL RIGHT, LET ME, LET ME STOP FOR A SECOND. CAN LEGAL, UH, ADVISE ON THAT FOR, UH, ANY PERMITS THAT ARE PULLED? THAT'S CRAZY. IF IT IS WITHIN A HISTORIC DISTRICT, UH, A REVIEW DOES GO THROUGH O H P, UH, BUT A WELL DEFERRED, UH, DEPUTY DIRECTOR TOMAZ AS TO WHETHER, UH, THESE TYPES OF PERMITS REQUIRE O H P APPROVAL. I HAVE DENIAL OF MY APPLICATION FROM THE CITY WHERE I INITIALLY TRIED TO GET THE PERMIT, AND THEY, THEY ARE THE ONES THAT REFERRED ME TO THE O H P, WHICH I THEN TRIED TO GET PERMITS THROUGH THEM. SO THAT'S NOT CORRECT EITHER. THIS IS, THIS IS, UM, HOLD ON, MA'AM. UH, WE'RE GONNA GET IT FROM STAFF. IT'S OKAY. THIS IS, I MEAN, THOMAS, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, UH, SAVITA MENTIONED IT CORRECTLY. UH, ANY BUILDING IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT NEEDS TO, WHEN YOU PULL PERMITS FOR ANYTHING IN THE EXTERIOR, IT NEEDS TO GO THROUGH REVIEW FROM O H P. SO IF YOU APPLIED IT, GONNA BE REVIEWED BY D S D STAFF AND O H P, HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE, AND THEN YOU GET THE APPROVAL POTENTIALLY AFTER THAT. OKAY. MADAM CHAIR? YEAH. YES, MR. ZUNIGA, UH, SINCE WE'VE BEEN GOING OVER AND OVER AND REALLY ASKING QUESTIONS THAT, UH, THEY HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, MIGHT WELL FOR ANYTHING, UH, COULD YOU CALL FOR A, UM, I'M GONNA CALL FOR A MOTION. YES. YES. BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'RE GOING INTO MR. CHAIR, THIS IS LEGAL. YEAH, WE DO HAVE, OH, WE HAVE, UH, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, UH, THE OWNER NEEDS TO BE PROVIDED, UH, FULL OPPORTUNITY TO FINISH PRESENTING TO THE BOARD. UH, THE PREVIOUS OWNER IS PRESENT. I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S, UH, SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOLLOWING THAT. THERE ARE SEVERAL CITIZENS, UH, WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, AND SO IT IS NOT PROPER TO, UH, MOVE INTO A MOTION. THANK YOU, COUNSELOR. AND JESSE, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THIS IS DAVID GARZA, BUT I THINK WE STILL HAVE SOME MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS MATTER. UH, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. UH, SO YOU HAVE BEEN OPERATING WITHOUT A LICENSE, MA'AM? WE HAVE HAD A PENDING APPLICATION, SIR, AND WE HAVE HOUSED, TO MY KNOWLEDGE RIGHT NOW, MAYBE 28 PEOPLE. ARE YOU OPERATING WITHOUT A LICENSE? YES, WE ARE. WITH FULL KNOWLEDGE OF THE STATE. AND, UH, WHY DID THEY RESEND YOUR LICENSE? THEY DIDN'T RESEND ANYTHING. OH. THEN WHY ARE YOU HAVING TO REAPPLY? THAT EXPIRED. AND THIS WAS PRIOR TO THE 2020 PANDEMIC? UH, MANY THINGS HAVE HAPPENED SINCE THEN. WE HAVE BEEN IN FULL CONTACT WITH THE STATE THIS ENTIRE TIME. OKAY. AND SO WHAT IS YOUR OCCUPANCY RATE? AS I SAID, WE HAVE MAYBE 26 PEOPLE AT THIS TIME. AND HOW MANY UNITS ARE IN YOUR, THERE'S 22 UNITS, NOT 36, OR, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY SAID BEFORE, BUT WE ARE 22 UNIT COMPLEX AND 22 UNITS TOTAL IN, IN THE APARTMENT, OR 22 UNITS THAT ARE LIVABLE. 22 UNITS WE HAVE IN THE FACILITY THERE. I BELIEVE WE HAVE THREE THAT ARE TOTALLY UNOCCUPIED, THAT ARE EMPTY. UM, REALLY TRY TO NOT TAKE ON ANY NEW SINCE THIS PANDEMIC. UH, BUT WE, THERE'S ANYWHERE FROM TWO TO THREE PEOPLE AT THE MOST IN ANY ONE OF OUR APARTMENTS. SOME APARTMENTS ARE, ARE ENTIRELY ONE INDIVIDUAL BECAUSE THEY CAN AFFORD IT. UH, THE OTHER INDIVIDUALS, UM, THEY SHARE UNITS. I MEAN, WE TAKE PEOPLE WITH SS, S I THAT ONLY HAVE SS, S I THAT'S $800 OR SO. AND WHEN WE HOUSE THEM, FEED THEM, TAKE 'EM TO THE DOCTOR. I MEAN, YOU CAN'T GET [01:30:01] THAT ANYWHERE IN SAN ANTONIO. WE DO A SERVICE AND WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. UH, THE STATE HAS, AS I SAID, IN FULL KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WE DO. THEY COME OUT, YOU KNOW, WE GET REFERRALS STILL FROM A P S. UM, IT, IT DOES LOOK, THAT'S AN, WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THAT, THAT IS DIRECT CORRELATING WITH THAT PICTURE, THE SLIDE THAT WAS JUST UP. AND WHO PAYS THEIR RENT? ALL THEY GET IS S S I, SIR. THAT'S ALL THEY GET. I DON'T GET SUBSIDY FROM ANYBODY, THE GOVERNMENT. OKAY. WE COULD, BUT WE DON'T. OKAY. SO HAVE YOU EVER HAD SECURITY ON YOUR PROPERTY? YES. HAVE YOU EVER HIRED SECURITY? YES. YES. WHEN AND HOW OFTEN AND WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME? AND ARE YOU STILL HIRING POINT OF ORDER? UM, I'D SAY MAYBE FOUR YEARS AGO OR SO. WE'VE STARTED GETTING A DIFFERENT FLUXX OF PEOPLE. WE GOT, UH, WE HAVE, EXCUSE ME. WE HAVE A POINT OF ORDER HERE. UM, POINT OF ORDER. UM, I THINK WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE VIOLATIONS. THANK YOU. CAN I, CAN YOUR POINT OF ORDER, JUST WANNA REITERATE, WE NEED TO FOCUS IN ON THE VIOLATIONS, UM, AND, AND FOCUS IN ON THAT. IT'S ROBERT TAPIA. IT'S ROBERT ROBERT TAPIA. THAT'S FAIR. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I JUST, UH, UH, JUST, UH, UH, MAY I ASK A QUESTION OF THE OWNER'S COUNCIL? OH, SURE. YES, MA'AM. UH, GUILLERMO, YES OR NO QUESTION, IS THIS AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY? YES. IS THIS ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY CURRENTLY LICENSED? NO. HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN OPERATING WITHOUT A LICENSE? IT HAD BEEN ROUGHLY AT THE END OF 2019. SO RIGHT IN JANUARY OF 2020, UH, I BELIEVE, I'M SORRY. UH, JANUARY, 2020. IT WAS WHEN I BELIEVE THE LICENSE, UH, WITH THE BO UH, WITH THE STATE, UH, OFFICIALLY EXPIRED. UH, I, I HESITATE TO, I KNOW ON THE RECORD, UH, THAT MAY NOT BE THE EXACT DATES, BUT THERE WAS A PROCESS, UH, REGARDING, UH, THEY USE A SYSTEM CALLED TULIP, UH, WHICH IS AN ONLINE SYSTEM OF SUBMITTING DOCUMENTATION AND, AND GETTING THINGS THAT THE STATE NEEDS FOR RE-UPPING THE LICENSE. UH, THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THAT. THE, UH, OWNER AT THE TIME, MS. VELASQUEZ, UH, ATTEMPTED TO DO IT DID NOT WORK. AND SO FOR TECHNICAL REASONS, THE LICENSE WAS, UH, NOT RENEWED. UH, ANOTHER APPLICATION WAS PUT IN BY MS. VELASQUEZ. UH, THAT APPLICATION WAS DENIED BECAUSE OF THE REGULATIONS DEALING WITH, IF YOU HAVE A CURRENT LICENSE THAT WAS NOT RENEWED, YOU'RE PROHIBITED FROM, UH, REAPPLYING FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. AND IT DIDN'T MATTER WHY THAT PROCESS WENT UP ON APPEAL. UM, THAT APPEAL WAS SUBSEQUENTLY DROPPED BECAUSE OF THE COORDINATION BETWEEN, UH, THE PARTIES AND MY, MYSELF AND THE STATE, THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER AT THE POINT IN TIME TO FORM AN ENTITY, A TRANSFER OWNERSHIP, AND APPLY FOR THE LICENSE AS BEING THE, THE MOST EXPEDIENT WAY TO GET THE FACILITY LICENSED AGAIN. THANK YOU. AND, UH, FINAL QUESTION, MADAM CHAIR. UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INDULGENCE. UH, DO YOU HAVE DOCUMENTATION FROM THE STATE, UH, CONFIRMING, UH, WHAT YOUR CLIENT JUST STATED? THAT, UH, THE STATE IS AWARE THE, UH, ALPHAS OPERATING WITHOUT A LICENSE AND, UH, THEY ARE ALLOWING IT TO CONTINUE? WELL, I CAN ANSWER THE FIRST PART THAT THEY ARE AWARE AS FAR AS THEY'RE, UH, ALLOWING IT TO CONTINUE. THEY, UH, THERE IS THE, I REPRESENT TO THE BOARD THAT THEY HAVE TAKEN ACTION AGAINST THE, THE FACILITY BECAUSE OF THE OPERATIONS WITHOUT THE LICENSE. SO AS FAR AS I CANNOT REPRESENT THAT THEY ARE, UH, THUMBS UP ON BOARD WITH IT. THEY, THEY HAVE A LEGAL OBLIGATION, WHICH EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT AS FAR AS LICENSING. SO THEY'VE TAKEN AN, UH, ACTION AT, UH, HHS, THEY'VE TAKEN THE APPROPRIATE ACTION, UM, UNDERNEATH WHAT LEGALLY HAS TO BE DONE. WE ARE WORKING TO, FOR A RESOLUTION TO, AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, GET THE FACILITY LICENSED AND SO THEY CAN CONTINUE DOING [01:35:01] THE WORK IN THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR INDULGENCE. UH, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, UH, FOR, UH, MY OWN PERSONAL, UH, KNOWLEDGE. THANK YOU. AND, UH, BOARD MEMBER TAPIA IS, UH, CORRECT. UM, THAT THE FOCUS THAT IS, UH, THAT IS, UH, BEFORE THE BOARD TODAY IS, UH, THE, UH, CODE VIOLATIONS AND ANY DEFICIENCIES THEREIN. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO, UM, ARE THERE ANY MORE CODE VIOLATIONS THAT YOU ALL WANT TO ADDRESS? I BELIEVE THAT, NO, MA'AM. I THINK WE, I BELIEVE WHY THE QUESTIONING WAS, UH, THE LAST STATEMENT BY MS. DIEHL. UH, THERE WAS AN INVOICE THAT WAS PUT UP, UH, THAT WASN'T NECESSARILY A ADDRESSED. UH, IF THE BOARD IS, UH, WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT AGAIN. I BELIEVE THAT'S OUR LAST BIT OF, UH, VISUAL EVIDENCE, UH, FOR TODAY. WELL, IT DOESN'T SAY WHAT, WHAT IT WAS FOR. OKAY. IT JUST HAD YOU HAD ITEMIZED MADAM CHAIR, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION THAT WASN'T ASKED OF OF NO, IT STILL YEAH. OF THE CLIENT. LYDIA. YES, SIR. IN ALL OF THE OTHER STUFF, AND WE ASKED THE COUNSEL THIS AND HE COULDN'T ANSWER IT BECAUSE WITHOUT TALKING TO THE CONTRACTORS, THE REPAIRS, REMAINING REPAIRS AND ALL THE OTHER REPAIRS THAT NEED TO BE DONE, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WILL TAKE FOR THE REPAIRS, THE ONES THAT WERE ADDED? UH, ALL OF THEM. WELL, THE ONES THAT WERE ADDRESSING TODAY WERE, WERE THE 10. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS, THAT'S WHAT I CAN SAY HAS BEEN FIXED. THE ADDITIONAL THAT WAS ADDED, LIKE LET'S SAY THE 11TH, THE LAST TIME THAT THE OFFICER WAS OFFICERS WERE THERE, HAVE NOT, BECAUSE WE WERE NOT AT, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT'LL TAKE TO DO THOSE. 'CAUSE THERE'S OTHER ISSUES THAT THEY CITED US FOR ON THAT DAY THAT ARE NOT ON YOUR LIST HERE. SO THOSE, I CAN, LIKE I SAY, THE ENGINEERING IS SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO GET DONE AND SOME OF THEM HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE. WELL, YEAH, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE COPIES OF THESE. YOU'RE, LET ME, LET ME ASK, YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S OTHER CITATIONS THAT YOU KEEP REFERRING TO YEAH. THAT AREN'T ON THE LIST. WE'RE DISCUSSING. WE'RE ONLY, WE'RE ONLY DISCUSSING THE ONES WE'RE HERE TODAY. WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT ANY OTHERS YOU GOT PRIOR OR AFTER THAT. YES. YES, SIR. UM, I THINK IT'S A, UH, IT'D BE GOOD FOR THE BOARD, THE REPRESENTATION HERE TODAY IS THAT THE ISSUES HAVE BEEN FIXED. HOWEVER, UPON RE-INSPECTION, IF THEY DETERMINE THAT THEY WEREN'T FIXED, I BELIEVE THEY CAN BE FIXED AT THAT POINT WITHIN 30 DAYS OF NOTICE OF HEY, YOU DIDN'T DO IT RIGHT. BUT THE REPRESENTATION HERE TODAY IS THAT WE BELIEVE THAT HAS BEEN DONE CORRECTLY. UM, HOWEVER, UPON RE-INSPECTION, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT IS LACKING, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT I'M FROM THAT POINT ON THAT THE ONES THAT WERE PRESENTED TODAY IS THE ONES WE'RE, WE ARE WANTING TO KNOW HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE. NOT ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT. YES, SIR. UH, AND YOU'RE SAYING 30 DAYS? WELL, I'M, I'M, I'M SAYING I BELIEVE THEY'RE A HUNDRED PER, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DONE NOW. UM, IF THERE IS, UH, TOMORROW, IF SOMEONE COMES OUT AND SAYS THEY WEREN'T, IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH. AT THAT POINT, I BELIEVE THAT MY CLIENTS POTENTIALLY COULD DO IT WITHIN 30 DAYS OF 60 DAYS TOPS. YEAH. THANK YOU. OKAY. WOULD WE BE SATISFIED WITH 90 DAY'S, GIVEN YOU 90 DAYS TO COMPLETE, UH, WHAT'S BEEN BROUGHT OUT TO YOU? YES SIR. I THINK THAT SHOULD DEFINITELY BE OKAY. THAT'S WHAT THAT, THAT IS A QUESTION. OKAY. YES. THANK YOU. 90 DAYS. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM. IS YOUR GENERAL CONTRACTOR HERE TODAY? NO, SIR. OH, THAT'S THE PROBLEM. THEY DON'T HAVE A GENERAL CONTRACTOR. THEY HAVE A MAINTENANCE MA'AM. CHECK. ALRIGHT. OKAY. UH, NEXT PERSON IS HERE IS MS. MARGARET VELAZQUEZ TO SPEAK? THAT'S THE OTHER ONE. OH, SHE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. YEAH. HEARING IF IT'D BE OKAY WITH THE BOARD SHE TAKE TO BRIEFLY ADDRESS THE BOARD FOR THREE MINUTES TOPS. I'M SORRY, MS. VELASQUEZ WOULD LIKE TO BRIEFLY ADDRESS THE BOARD FOR THREE MINUTES. YEAH, IT'S TIME TO SPEAK. OKAY. SHE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. MA'AM. MY NAME IS MARGARET VELASQUEZ, PREVIOUS OWNER OF HAVENS INN. NOW IT'S HAVENS INN, L L C. NOW YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, I'M SORRY? YOUR ADDRESS? YOUR ADDRESS WHERE YOU LIVE. MY HOME ADDRESS IS 1 2 0 0 2 ASHROCK COURT, SAN ANTONIO. OKAY. YOU [01:40:01] WANT TO ADDRESS, YOU WANNA PRESENT YOUR CASE, MA'AM? YES. FIRST OFF, I WANTED TO TELL MR. GARZA, I KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE WE WERE DOING THIS TO EVADE FIXING, SPEAKING TO THE MIC, THE PROPERTY, BUT IT ISN'T, I'M 83 YEARS OLD. I WAS 83, JUNE THE 10TH. AT THAT POINT, I FIGURED IT WAS TIME TO LET IT GO TO SOMEONE YOUNGER. I WILL STILL BE THERE AS A CONSULTANT, BUT THAT'S IT. BUT THERE WAS NO TRYING TO EVADE ANYTHING. IT'S JUST I'M OLDER, I CAN'T HEAR. I WEAR HEARING AIDS. I HAD SURGERY ON MY EYES. I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THAT. SO THAT WAS THE REASONING BEHIND THE TRANSFER. SO ALL OF THESE THINGS AND THE CLIENTS THAT WE HAVE, THEY'RE ALL MENTAL PATIENTS. EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM DIFFERENT AGES, BUT THEY'RE ALL MENTAL PATIENTS. AND I KNOW SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND OUR FACILITY, THEY'VE HAD PROBLEMS WITH AT LEAST THREE, MAYBE FOUR OF MY CLIENTS. THE MAIN ONE WAS THE ONE THAT WENT INTO THE MAN'S HOUSE AND SLEPT ON THE BED. I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT SAME DAY OR THE NEXT DAY HE WAS GONE. THE PEOPLE THAT I HAVE HAD THAT URINATE, DEFECATE AND DO ALL THESE OTHER THINGS ARE NO LONGER WITH US. WE ARE TRYING TO HELP AND TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE, BUT THEY HAVE JUST AS MUCH RIGHT. TO WALK AROUND THE, OUR PROPERTY AS ANYBODY ELSE. AND SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS, I KNOW THEY DON'T WANNA SEE 'EM THERE, BUT MY POINT IS THIS. WHERE ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO GO? I'VE HAD SOME 20 YEARS, 15 YEARS, 11 YEARS. I ALWAYS HAD A LICENSE. ALWAYS. I WAS VERY HAPPY WITH MY LICENSE. BUT MA'AM, YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES HERE? OKAY, WELL, THE VIOLATIONS. OKAY. THAT'S, UM, MAINLY THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO REASSURE THE PORT, THAT THE PEOPLE THAT WERE CREATING THESE UGLY THINGS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ARE NO LONGER WITH US. AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. IF SOME OF THE CLIENTS THAT WE HAVE NOW WOULD GET UNRULY, THEY WOULD BE GONE. NO, THE ISSUES, MA'AM, THAT ARE, THE PICTURES ARE BEING SHOWN ON THE, ON THE MONITOR. MM-HMM. , THOSE ARE VIOLATIONS THAT YOU HAVE BEEN CHARGED WITH. SO WE WANT YOU TO ADDRESS THOSE. WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT THOSE ISSUES? WELL, I, MYSELF PERSONALLY WENT THE PERMIT ISSUE FOR STARTERS, I WENT, I CAME HERE TO GET A PERMIT. I HAVE COPIES OF IT AND THEY TOLD ME WHAT YOU ARE DOING, YOU DON'T NEED A PERMIT. THAT'S WHAT THEY TOLD ME. AND I HAVE THAT. I CAME AND THEN MY DAUGHTER CAME. THEY TOLD HER THE SAME THING. 'CAUSE WE TOLD THEM WHAT WE HAD TO DO. THEY SAID NO, IF YOU HAVE TO DO A NEW STRUCTURE, THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT. BUT IF YOU'RE JUST REPAIRING THINGS THAT ARE THERE, YOU DON'T NEED A PERMIT. SO WE DON'T HAVE ONE. I I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU TALK TO MA'AM, BUT ANYTIME THAT YOU DO STRUCTURAL THINGS, STAIRS, THAT TYPE OF THING, YOU NEED A PERMIT AND YOU NEED A LICENSED CONTRACTOR. WELL, OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S IT THEN. I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO SAY. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MADAM CHAIR? I HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY, MS. VELASQUEZ? YES. AS AN ASSISTED FACILITY, LIVING FACILITY, UH, WITH A STATE LICENSE, I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT NOW, BUT DOES THE STATE EVER COME DOWN AND INSPECT YOUR, YOUR PROPERTY? ALL THE TIME. YES. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THEY WERE THERE? OOH, I GUESS IT WAS THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR. OF THIS YEAR. AND YOU KNOW WHAT ON, THEY HAVE A FORM THAT YOU HAVE TO FILL OUT AND THAT THEY GIVE YOU, AND IT PUT ON THERE THAT WE WERE OKAY FOR A LICENSE. THAT WAS THE LAST MAN THAT CAME. MR. GARZA, UH, MISS DEAL. THE NEW OWNER JUST INFORMED ME THAT IT WAS LAST MONTH THAT THE STATE WAS AT THE FACILITY. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? AND, AND LET ME UNDERSTAND, THE STATE TOLD YOU EVERYTHING WAS FINE? NO, THEY DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE PROPERTY ITSELF. THEY SAID THAT AS FAR AS THE LICENSING WENT, THE PER THAT, THAT WE WERE. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT HE PUT ON THERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY CAN CITE YOU FOR. THE KITCHEN WAS FINE. UH, EVERYTHING WAS FINE. SO THEY SAID, OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. WE HAVE OTHER PEOPLE TO SPEAK. UM, OKAY. IS IT JAN HENRY? UM, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ADDRESS. HELLO, ADDRESS. I'M JAN HENRY [01:45:01] AND I'M SPEAKING ON 1 79. KELLY, I'M SORRY, WHAT? SPEAKING ON THE NEXT PROPERTY ON THE NEXT OH, YOU'RE ON THE NEXT PROPERTY. I'M SORRY. YES, MS. BROWN. MS. CHAIR, IF YOU, I'M SORRY. THIS IS LEGAL. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM. OH, THE BOTTOM. OKAY. THE LIST HAS THREE, THREE MEMBERS. OKAY. SO, UM, WE HAVE, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. IS IT PRIYA GARRA IT DREA GARZA. UH, I MAY HAVE PRONOUNCED YOUR NAME INCORRECTLY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. BUT STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. YES, MA'AM. UH, GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS DREA GARZA. UM, PRESIDENT OF THE MONTICELLO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. EXCUSE ME? YES, SIR. WHAT DO YOU NEED? I'M GIVING HER EXTRA TIME. OH, I DON'T NEED TIME. OKAY. I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. UM, AND UH, MY ADDRESS IS, UH, PO BOX ONE ZERO ZERO THREE ONE FIVE. SPEAKING TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE. WE CAN'T. SEVEN EIGHT TWO ZERO ONE. UH, THE MONTICELLO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR M P N A IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE UNPERMITTED USE OF AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY. TYPE A OPERATING AT ONE 10. MARY LOUISE DRIVE, THE LACK OF THE PROPERTY'S COMPLIANCE TO THE SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE AND THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY REPORTED BY M P N A RESIDENCE BY MALE INDIVIDUALS RESIDING AT ONE 10. MARY LOUISE AND P AND A RESIDENTS HAVE REPORTED SEVERAL INCIDENTS OF MALE INDIVIDUALS FROM ONE 10 MARY LOUISE LOITERING ON THEIR FRONT PORCHES AND RINGING THEIR DOORBELLS AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY AND NIGHT, TRESPASSING INTO THEIR BACKYARDS, TRESPASSING INTO A HOME, AND GOING THROUGH THEIR MAIL. ONE 10 MARY LOUISE ADVERTISES AS HAVENS INN ON YELP. THEIR YELP ADVERTISEMENT STATES THEY ARE STATE LICENSED ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY TYPE A UNDER VENDOR NUMBER 0 3 0 1 9 6. AND THAT THEY PROVIDE AN ALL MALE ENVIRONMENT CONDUCIVE TO HELPING THOSE WITH MENTAL PROBLEMS. THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES INFORMED M P N A IN MAY OF 2022 THAT THE STATE LICENSE FOR HAVENS INN FOR ONE 10. MARY LOUISE DRIVE AS AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY, HAS NOT BEEN LICENSED WITH THE STATE SINCE 2019. THIS FACILITY ALSO SERVES FOOD AND HAS NOT BEEN INSPECTED YEARLY BY METRO HEALTH IN THE PAST YEARS. THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES DEFINES AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY AS A FACILITY THAT PROVIDES INDIVIDUALIZED HEALTH AND PERSONAL CARE ASSISTANCE IN A HOMELIKE SETTING WITH AN EMPHASIS ON PERSONAL DIGNITY, AUTONOMY, INDEPENDENCE, AND PRIVACY. FACILITIES CAN BE LARGE APARTMENT LIKE SETTINGS OR PRIVATE RESIDENCES. SERVICES INCLUDE MEALS, BATHING, DRESSING, TOILETING, AND ADMINISTERING OR SUPERVISING MEDICATION. TEXAS HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES LICENSES ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES BASED ON RESIDENTS' PHYSICAL AND MENTAL ABILITY TO EVACUATE THE FACILITY IN AN EMERGENCY AND WHETHER NIGHTTIME ATTENDANCE IS NECESSARY. THE TYPE A FACILITY CARES FOR RESIDENTS WHO DO NOT REQUIRE ROUTINE ATTENDANCE DURING SLEEPING HOURS AND ARE CAPABLE OF FOLLOWING DIRECTIONS IN AN EMERGENCY. ONE 10 MARY LOUISE IS NOT LICENSED BY THE CITY NOR THE STATE FOR ITS CURRENT OPERATIONS AS AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY AND HAS NOT BEEN SINCE 2019. WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD TO ORDER THE REPAIRS IDENTIFIED IN THE CODE COMPLIANCE REPORT AND ISSUE THE MAXIMUM CIVIL PENALTIES POSSIBLE. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING OUR COMMENTS. THANK YOU. OKAY, THE NEXT PERSON TO SPEAK IS TOM SIMMONS SEATED. HE SEATED. AND YOU ARE BIANCA MALDONADO. YES, MA'AM. BIANCA MALDONADO RESIDE SPEAKING TO THE MICROPHONE. 'CAUSE WE COULD BARELY HEAR HER . I KNOW THEY HAD THIS PROBLEM AT H D R C YESTERDAY TOO. BIANCA MALDONADO RESIDED AT 4 57 CLUB DRIVE, UH, 7 8 2 0 1. I RESIDE IN THE MONTICELLO PARK AREA AND HAVE RESIDED THERE FOR 18 YEARS. I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE THIS IS AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY. THIS ISN'T AN APARTMENT. IF YOU LISTEN TO YOUR QUESTION, YOU ASKED HOW MANY RESIDENTS CALLED AND REPORTED THE VIOLATIONS OF THIS PROPERTY. HOW MANY OF THOSE RESIDENTS AT THIS FACILITY WHO WE NOW KNOW HAVE MENTAL DEFICIENCIES WHO REQUIRE MEDICATION, ARE CAPABLE OF CALLING 3 1 1 TO REPORT THEIR HOUSING CONDITIONS? DO THEY EVEN KNOW THAT THEY CAN DO THAT? SINCE 2019, THIS PROPERTY HASN'T BEEN PERMITTED BY THE STATE. WHY? BECAUSE OF ITS CURRENT CONDITION. THESE CONDITIONS DIDN'T OCCUR OVERNIGHT. THERE'S A DETERIORATION AND ANY RESIDENT LIVING ON THE SECOND FLOOR SHOULD BE CONCERNED IF THEY'RE ABLE TO EVACUATE. I MEAN, A TYPE A FACILITY, THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW COMMANDS TO BE ABLE TO EVACUATE WITHOUT BEING CLASSIFIED AS A TYPE B FACILITY WITH THE STATE GUIDELINES. AND SO THE CONCERN IS OBVIOUSLY YOU SEE THE PROLIFERATION OF THEIR RESIDENTS AND THEIR ACTIVITIES. I HAVE PERSONALLY WITNESSED PEOPLE URINATING IN THE FRONT OF THIS FACILITY, WALKING IN, ALSO CONGREGATING WITH THE HOMELESS PEOPLE, UM, ON FREDERICKSBURG ROAD, WHICH IS ONE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THIS LOCATION. [01:50:01] AND WHEN YOU SEE THOSE INTERIOR PHOTOS, THERE'S NO STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, THERE'S NO PERMITS THAT WERE PULLED FOR THOSE WORK. HOW DO WE KNOW THAT IT WAS DONE TO THE INTEGRITY THAT IT NEEDED TO BE DONE FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES? INDIVIDUALS WE KNOW WHO HAVE MENTAL DEFICIENCIES. AS AN INDIVIDUAL, AS A PROPERTY OWNER WHO LIVES IN HISTORIC DISTRICT, YOU PULL A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FROM O H P, THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION. THAT CAN BE DONE IN 24 TO 48 HOURS. THAT MEANS THE REPAIR THAT YOU'RE GONNA DO IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES. THEN YOU TAKE YOUR C OF A AND YOU GO GET YOUR PERMIT FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. IT DOESN'T MEAN JUST BECAUSE YOU NEED A PERMIT. YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE A YOU, YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE A C OF A, REGARDLESS OF A PERMIT IS REQUIRED FOR EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS. AND THAT'S DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY. BUT I BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS NOT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED OVERNIGHT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS PROGRESSED TO ITS SITUATION THAT IT'S CURRENTLY IN. THIS IS A VULNERABLE POPULATION. HOW DO YOU PROTECT A VULNERABLE POPULATION? THAT'S MY QUESTION TO YOU TODAY. HOW ARE YOU GONNA PROTECT THAT VULNERABLE POPULATION WHO DOESN'T EVEN KNOW THEY CAN REPORT THESE TYPE OF VIOLATIONS? WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY INTERIOR COMMENT OR INTERIOR PHOTOS OF ANY OF THE APARTMENTS OF THIS FACILITY. WE'VE ONLY SEEN THE EXTERIOR. MY QUESTION IS, IS THE WHOLE PROPERTY UP TO CODE? IS IT THE QUALITY STANDARDS THAT OUR VULNERABLE POPULATION WHO WE KNOW NEEDS ASSISTANCE BECAUSE THEY HAVE, THEY'RE LIVING IN AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY. AND YES, THE STATE MAY BE AWARE THAT THEY'RE OPERATING, BUT THE STATE SAID IT'S THE CITY TO ENFORCE AT THIS POINT WHEN WE CALLED BECAUSE WHEN THEY WERE BREAKING INTO PEOPLE'S HOUSES, CAN YOU IMAGINE WALKING INTO YOUR HOUSE AND HAVING SOMEBODY ASLEEP UPSTAIRS IN YOUR HOME, RINGING YOUR DOORBELL AT ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT ASKING FOR SOMEBODY TO ANSWER? THIS GOES DIRECTLY TO THE MANAGEMENT OF THIS PROPERTY AND HOW IT'S OPERATING AND THE CONDITIONS ARE DETERIORATING. WE'RE SEEING IT, IT'S PROLIFERATING THROUGH MANY THINGS, SO PLEASE EXERCISE THE MAXIMUM PENALTIES POSSIBLE. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK AND THANK YOU. OKAY. TOM, DID YOU WANNA SPEAK? NO, MA'AM. NO. OKAY. OKAY. I THINK WE HAVE EXHAUSTED THE LIST OF, UM, PEOPLE TO SPEAK. MS. BROWN? YES. THIS IS ESTHER. YES, ESTHER. UM, WE ALSO RECEIVED SEVERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS BY EMAIL THAT WE WILL BE READING INTO THE RECORD. OKAY. THE FIRST IS AN ANONYMOUS EMAIL THAT WAS SENT IN ON WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 17TH, 2022 AT 2:18 AM REGARDING ONE 10 MARY LOUISE DRIVE. I LIVE SEVERAL HOUSES DOWN AND WISH TO COMMENT ON MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE PROPERTY AND THE BLOCK. IN GENERAL, I'M RELUCTANT TO WALK THIS DIRECTION WITH THE PETS OR FOR GROCERIES BECAUSE IT DOES NOT FEEL SAFE TO DO SO. AS A FEMALE, ONE ENTERS IN A HEIGHTENED STATE OF ALERT TRA TRANSVERSING BECOMING MORE DEFENSIVE AND READY FOR A FIGHT FLIGHT RESPONSE. MORE SO THAN ANY OTHER PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE PROBABILITY OF ENCOUNTERING A SITUATION AS HIGH, I REFER TO THIS SEGMENT OF OUR STREET AS SCARY LOUISE DRIVE. MY HUSBAND HAS CAUTIONED ME TO AVOID THIS AREA BECAUSE OF THE SENSE OF DANGER HE FEELS FOR ME WHEN HE CHOOSES THIS ROUTE. NOTEWORTHY PAST INCIDENTS INCLUDE IN THE SPRING OF 2021, A MAN SEEMINGLY WITHOUT RE PURPOSE OR PROBABLE CAUSE, EMERGED FROM THE BACKYARD OF 2 0 2. MARY LOUISE. WHILE THE HOME WAS LISTED FOR SALE, HE LOOKED ME OVER DECIDEDLY AND THEN WALKED BACK ACROSS THE STREET ONTO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. CUSTOMARILY I WILL BE STARTLED BY MEN. SAUNTERING OUT OF THE MARY LOUISE AND FUR DRIVE ALLEY TO CROSS BACK OVER THE SUB SUBJECT PROPERTY, UNSURE OF THEIR INTENTIONS, CONVERSATIONS WITH THEMSELVES, SOBRIETY, OR STATE OF MIND. THIS PAST SPRING, WALKING TOWARDS THE INTERSECTION OF SAN ANTONIO, I NOTICED A MAN LOADING ACROSS THE SIDEWALK OF THE PROPERTY. HE PROCEEDED TO FOLLOW ME OVER TO FUR DRIVE, AND AT THAT INTERSECTION HE APPROACHED ME AND ASKED FOR SOMETHING I COULD NOT HEAR HIS WORDS BECAUSE THE DOG BARKED LOUDLY AT HIM AND GOT BETWEEN US. HE GAVE UP AFTER A SECOND ATTEMPT TO LEAN IN, CLOSER TO INTERACT WITH ME AND RETREATED BACK IN THE DIRECTION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. INCREASINGLY, I WILL READ POSTINGS ON FACEBOOK AND NEXT DOOR WHERE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORS HAVE HAD TENANTS RING THE DOORBELL AND SIT ON THEIR PORCHES. IT CALLED INTO QUESTION AN INCIDENT THREE YEARS AGO WHEN SOMEBODY WALKED INTO OUR BACKYARD WHILE WE WERE IN IT AND VERBALLY ACCOSTED US, REFUSING TO LEAVE AFTER NUMEROUS REQUESTS AND TO GET OFF OUR PROPERTY. THE POLICE WERE [01:55:01] CALLED THIS SPRING, ANOTHER NEIGHBOR TEXTED ME, AN URGENT WARNING THAT ONE OF THE RESIDENTS ENTERED THEIR HOME AND PROCEEDED TO SPRAWL OUT OF THEIR BED. THE SAME NEIGHBOR PREVIOUSLY OBSERVED A FAMILIAR FACE SITTING ON THE FRONT DOORSTEP OF 2 0 2. MARY LOUISE, ENGAGING IN INTRAVENOUS DRUG USE, INJECTING A SUBSTANCE BETWEEN HIS TOES. THE SAME NEIGHBOR SAID ONE OF HIS DAUGHTERS WAS FLASHED IN THEIR DRIVEWAY THREE YEARS AGO. IN SUMMARY, WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE LACK OF MANAGEMENT, THE POOR PHYSICAL CONDITIONS OF THE STRUCTURES AND WHAT THESE SORTS OF CONDITIONS ATTRACT. THE CONDUCT OF THE TE TENANTS AND THE INTRUSION OF BAD ELEMENT INTO AN OTHERWISE CLOSE KNIT FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD IS DESTABILIZING AND DISTURBING. THE LEVEL OF NEGLECT COUPLED WITH BEHAVIORS, HAVE BECOME A CONSTANT CONCERN FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY. THERE SEEMS TO BE AN ESCALATION IN ANTISOCIAL OR CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR STEMMING FROM THE BATTERED PROPERTY THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE GRIT AND GRIME OF THE BLOCK AS A WHOLE. MOREOVER, OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES FOR PRESERVATION AND PROPERTY VITALITY DON'T SEEM TO APPLY AND HAVE BEEN UNFAIRLY OVERLOOKED WITH RELATION TO THIS PROPERTY. PLEASE USE YOUR AUTHORITY AND SERVICE TO THE CITY TO IMPROVE THE CONDITIONS FOR THOSE OF US THAT MUST LIVE AMONGST THIS EMBARRASSING GATEWAY INTO OUR OTHERWISE CHARMING AND HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU TO HUNDRED BLOCK NEIGHBOR. NEXT EMAIL WAS RECEIVED FROM DAVID RODRIGUEZ ON WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 17TH, 2022 AT 12:17 PM MS. CREW. MY NAME IS DAVID RODRIGUEZ. I AM THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2 0 2 FOR DRIVE, JUST ONE SUBJECT PROPERTY, ONE 10 MARY LOUISE. IN THE LAST YEAR, WE HAVE EXPERIENCED SEVERAL TROUBLED INCIDENTS. SS A P D CONFIRMED THAT ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS WAS A RESIDENT OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE ATTACHED VIDEO IS OF AN INCIDENT ON OCTOBER 11TH, 2021, IN WHICH THE INDIVIDUAL BARRICADED HIMSELF IN MY VEHICLE. AFTER REPEATED BARKING FROM MY DOG, I NOTICED THE INDIVIDUAL SITTING ON MY BACK PORCH. I THEN OBSERVED HIM WALK AROUND MY TRUCK, OPEN THE DOOR AND ENTER THE VEHICLE. AT THIS POINT WE MADE EYE CONTACT THROUGH MY SIDE MIRROR. HE REMAINED IN MY VEHICLE FOR APPROXIMATELY 15 MINUTES UNTIL S A P D ARRIVED AND REMOVED HIM. HE WAS RETURNED TO ONE 10 MARY LOUISE DRIVE BY S A P D. APPROXIMATELY ONE MONTH LATER, SHORTLY AFTER 1:00 AM I WAS AWAKENED TO THE SAME INDIVIDUAL BANGING ON MY FRONT DOOR. I IMMEDIATELY CALLED S A P D. I WATCHED HIM PACE BACK AND FORTH IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, EVENTUALLY APPEARING INTO MY WINDOW AS IF HE WAS ATTEMPTING TO MAKE ENTRY. AT THAT MOMENT, I YELLED AT HIM, WHICH CAUSED HIM TO LEAVE. HE THEN PROCEEDED TO WALK BACK TO ONE 10. MARY LOUISE. THESE INCIDENTS WERE VERY DISTURBING TO ME AND MY FAMILY. I AM AWARE OF A SIMILAR SITUATION AT THE RESIDENCE ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE AND AT THE RESIDENCE AT 2 0 2. MARY LOUISE. SINCERELY, DAVID RODRIGUEZ AT RODRIGUEZ LAW FIRM. WOW. NEXT EMAIL IS FROM ROB SIPES. RECEIVED WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 17TH, 2022 AT 1:41 PM PM MEMBERS OF THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD AND CITY OF SAN ANTONIO STAFF. MY NAME IS ROBERT S SIPES AND I RESIDE AT 3 34 MARY LOUISE DRIVE, WHICH IS TWO BLOCKS WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. I ASK YOU TO UPHOLD CODE ENFORCEMENT'S INVESTIGATIVE REPORT AND REQUIRE THE PROPERTY OWNER TO BRING THE STRUCTURES INTO FULL COMPLIANCE. OVER THE 20 YEARS WE HAVE LIVED IN MONTICELLO PARK, MY FAMILY HAS OFTEN WALKED PAST THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO THE H E B AND BUS STOP ON FREDERICKSBURG ROAD. WE HAVE WITNESSED THE CONTINUED DECLINE IN THE CONDITION, WHICH HAS MADE THE STRUCTURE A DANGER NOT ONLY TO ITS NEIGHBORS, BUT ALSO TO ITS RESIDENTS WHO REQUIRE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT. WHILE THE RESIDENTS THEMSELF HAVE NEVER POSED A DANGER TO US, THEY DO SUFFER FROM SOME MENTAL CONDITIONS, WHICH PER OUR SAN ANTONIO SAFE OFFICER REQUIRE ADDITIONAL SECURITY MEASURES TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE SAFE. IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, WE HAVE HAD INCIDENTS OF THE RESIDENTS LEAVING THE PROPERTY AND NOT ONLY WANDERING ONTO THE PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT ACTUALLY ENTERING, UM, AN UNLOCKED HOME. PLEASE DETERMINE THAT THE PROPERTY IS IN VIOLATION OF THE SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE AND REQUIRE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER TO ABATE THE VIOLATIONS. I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE OWNER SHOULD ALSO [02:00:01] BE FORCED TO PAY PENALTIES AS THE RESIDENTS OF HER PROPERTY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL CARE AND SUPPORT, WHICH HAS APPARENTLY BEEN IGNORED. THANK YOU. UM, ROB SIPES 3 3 34. MARY LOUISE DRIVE. THIS AN IS AN ANONYMOUS LETTER RECEIVED, UM, REGARDING 1 1 0 MARY LOUISE DRIVE. I'M A HOME HOMEOWNER IN THE MONTICELLO PARK HISTORICAL DISTRICT. WHEN CONSIDERING PURCHASING A HOME IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WE REVIEWED NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES AND FOUND THAT 1 1 0 MARY LOUISE TO BE LISTED AS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. WE HAD NO WAY OF KNOWING THAT THIS PROPERTY WAS OR WOULD SOON BECOME A, AN ADULT LIVING FACILITY. SUCH INFORMATION WOULD HAVE AFFECTED OUR DECISION TO BUY. DURING OUR TIME IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAVE EXPERIENCED ISSUES RARELY ENCOUNTERED LIVING IN PROXIMITY TO YOUR AVERAGE APARTMENT COMPLEX. EXAMPLES ARE FINDING A BROKEN PANE OF WINDOW GLASS IN OUR RECYCLE BIN, NOT AN AUTHORIZED ITEM. I APPROACHED A WOMAN IN THE NEIGHBORING COMPLEX AND MENTIONED THE GLASS. TOLD HER WE COULD BE FINE FOR DISCARDING SUCH AN ITEM IN THE RECYCLE BIN. HER RESPONSE WAS, HOW DID YOU KNOW IT WAS US? I EXPLAINED I'D HEARD IT PLACED IN THE BIN A MINUTE BEFORE. THIS INDICATED TO ME THAT ANY PROBLEMS WITH 1 1 0 MARY LOUISE WOULD BE, WOULD PLACE A BURDEN OF PROOF UPON US. FROM TIME TO TIME, WE HAVE DEALT WITH THE FOLLOWING. MANY CIGARETTE BUTTS ENOUGH TO FILL A COFFEE CAN FREQUENTLY DUMPED ALONG OUR PROPERTY LINE. LARGE ROCKS AND CHUNKS OF ASPHALT ROAD SURFACE DISCARDED ALONG THE ALLEY FENCE LINE CLEAN, AS WELL AS SOILED FECAL ITEMS OF MALE CLOTHING IN OUR RECYCLE BIN. MEDICAL WASTE MATERIALS IN A WHITE KITCHEN SIZED TRASH BAG. A HALF COOKING FULL POT OF BAKING PINTO BEANS JUST DUMPED ALONG OUR FENCE LINE A METAL TEASPOON AND CIGARETTE LIGHTER STASH IN A NATURAL GAS METER BOX AND ALLEY GATE HASP BEING BENT FROM RECURRING EFFORTS TO YANK THE GATE OPEN TO GAIN ACCESS TO OUR BACKYARD. ONE NEW YEAR'S EVE, SOMEONE FIRED A LARGE CALIBER WEAPON INTO THE ADJACENT ALLEY WAY. I RAN OUT TO SEE A SHADOWY FIGURE RUN INTO THE PROPERTY AT 1 1 10. MARY LOUISE OF GREATEST CONCERN ARE THE OCCASIONAL UNCONTROLLED MANIC AND EXPLICIT FAILED SCREAMS AND SHOUTS COMING FROM 1 1 10 MARY LOUISE. EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS, ONE OF THE RESIDENTS, OR SHOULD I SAY PATIENCE, WILL FLIP OUT AND VIOLENTLY LASH OUT VERBALLY AND SOMETIMES PHYSICALLY. THE LATEST SUCH EPISODE OCCURRING JUST YESTERDAY AT 8:25 AM ON AUGUST 17TH, 2022, WITH ONE OF THE INHABITANTS OF 1 1 10 MARY LOUISE SCREAMING AT THE TOP OF HIS LUNGS AND STRIKING A SOLID OBJECT WITH WHAT SOUNDED TO BE A FOLDING CHAIR. WE HAVE FOUND IT BEST NOT TO INVITE FRIENDS TO VISIT US. AS WE NEVER KNOW WHEN SUCH GUT WRENCHING INCIDENTS WILL OCCUR. MORE WORRISOME IS WONDERING WHEN SUCH EVENTS MIGHT PROVE BEYOND THE CONTROL OF MANAGEMENT AND OUT INTO MONTICELLO PARK PROPER. SUCH IS LIFE IN OUR LITTLE CORNER OF MONTICELLO HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE IT IS HOPED EVERYONE WILL READILY COMPLY WITH COSA ORDINANCES, RULES AND REGULATIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. WOW. OKAY. THE LAST ONE WAS RECEIVED TODAY FROM, UM, GARY HUDMAN AND IT READS DEER BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD. I AM A RESIDENT OF MARY LOUISE DRIVE. JUST ONE BLOCK AWAY FROM ONE 10 MARY LOUISE DRIVE. I HAVE SEVERAL SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROPERTY AND ASK THAT YOU TAKE STRONG ACTION TO RECTIFY THE MULTIPLE DEFICIENCIES. THIS PROPERTY HOUSES A A FOR-PROFIT BUSINESS, AN ADULT LIVING FACILITY, WHICH IS OPERATING WITHOUT A PERMIT. THIS IMPACTS THE QUALITY OF LIFE WITHIN THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD OF MONTICELLO PARK. THE OWNER SEEMS TO BE PROFITING, PROFITING ON THE BACKS OF SOME OF THE MOST VULNERABLE CITIZENS, AND IS NOT MAINTAINING THE PROPERTY TO THE STANDARDS DEMANDED. FOR SUCH A BUSINESS AS RESIDENTS, WE MUST GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF MAINTAINING AND IMPROVING OUR HOMES, WHICH INCLUDES REVIEWS BY SEVERAL OFFICES WITHIN THE CITY AND OBTAINING THE PROPER PERMITS AND INSPECTIONS FOR THE WORK NEEDING TO BE DONE. I HAVE INVESTED IN COMPLETING NEW WIRING, PLUMBING, AND HVAC, AND HAVE CORRECTED SEVERAL FOUNDATION AND STRUCTURAL ISSUES IN MY OWN HOUSE. OUGHT TO MEET CITY PROPERTY CODE REQUIREMENTS. [02:05:01] I WOULD ASK THAT THIS FOR PROFIT BUSINESS BE HELD TO THE SAME STANDARDS. I AM ESPECIALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT BROUGHT INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BY THIS PROPERTY. MY NEIGHBORS AND I HAVE, MY NEIGHBORS AND I HAVE HAD MULTIPLE BACKYARD TRESPASSING INCIDENTS DURING THE PAST YEAR, AND MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR ACTUALLY FOUND ONE OF THE RESIDENTS OF ONE 10 MARY LOUISE INSIDE THEIR HOME. THIS BEHAVIOR IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE. AND FOR THE FOR-PROFIT BUSINESS, WHICH ACCEPTS THESE TYPES OF RESIDENTS, IS CLEARLY CONTRIBUTING TO ONGOING PROBLEMS ON OUR STREET. PLEASE HOLD THIS BUSINESS ACCOUNTABLE FOR ALL BUILDING STANDARDS ON THIS PROPERTY. SINCERELY, GARY HUDMAN. IS THAT IT? THANK YOU. OKAY. NO ONE ELSE IS TO SPEAK. SO MADAM CHAIR? YES. UH, THIS IS FRED ANDERSON. I GOT ONE MORE QUESTION FOR THE CURRENT HOMEOWNER. OKAY. UM, MS. UH, CAN YOU, MS. DELIA CAN GO TO SLIDE 26 PLEASE. LYDIA, I JUST, I JUST NOTICED THIS. OKAY. NEXT QUESTION. WHAT'S THE QUESTION? WELL, I NEED THE SLIDE SLIDE UP TO GET THE QUESTION. OH, I'M SORRY. SO SHE SEES WHAT THE QUESTION'S ABOUT, WHICH SLIDE ARE YOU LOOKING? SLIDE 26. OH 26. THAT'S IT. 26 2 6 0 5 6. MAYBE I'M READING THAT WRONG. YEAH, IT'S MARKED. IT'S MARKED IN OURS. IT'S 26. IT'S BASICALLY A A, UH, LET ME SEE WHERE THAT DOOR. OKAY. GO BACK. UH, ONE, ONE SLIDE. NO, IT'S NOT EVEN ON THERE. WAIT A MINUTE HERE. ALL RIGHT. SCROLL THROUGH IT AND I'LL 'CAUSE ON THIS ONE, IT'S MARK 26. MR. ANDIS, IF YOU CAN, UM, REFERENCE THE NUMBER ON THE SCREEN AT THE, ON THE BOTTOM THERE'S A NUMBER, WELL, NOT ON THIS ONE. IT DOESN'T REFER THAT TO DESCRIBE IT FRED. IT IS A BALCONY WITH A SWIMMING POOL, BUT ON HERE IT'S MARK 26. SO IF YOU SCROLL THROUGH 'EM, I'LL, I'LL STOP YOU ON IT. IS THIS ME NOW? KEEP GOING. THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS IT, UH, AT A CORNER. I'M TOO, WHY IS IT THAT'S IT. WHY IS IT A DIFFERENT SLIDE IN HERE? ARE YOU, IS IT THE SAME SLIDE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW? YEAH. THEN THAT IS SLIDE NUMBER 26 IN THE PRESENTATION. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. IT'S IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT THEY'RE NOT SHOWING IT ON THEIR OVERHEAD. IT SHOULD BE RIGHT AFTER THAT. SEE, AND IT SHOWS THAT, BUT IN OUR SLIDE IT'S SHOWING A REAL, WITH THE OPEN POOL, IT SHOWS THAT WINDOW AND THEN IT GOES TO THE, UH, OTHER SLIDE I'M LOOKING AT. IT SHOWS A FULL PICTURE OF THE SWIMMING POOL FROM A UPPER BALCONY THAT'S EMPTY. RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT IS THE QUESTION? WELL, I HAVE TO HAVE THE SLIDE FOR THE UN FOR [02:10:01] HER TO SEE BEFORE I ASK HER A QUESTION. OH, THERE'S A SWIM POOL IS WITHOUT WATER. NO, NO, IT'S NOT THAT ONE. YOU HAVE IT ON YOURS, IT'S OUTTA WATER. CORRECT. THAT ONE RIGHT THERE. THAT YEAH. BUT I NEED THAT FOR THE, FOR THE HER TO UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. WELL, SHE CAN LOOK AT THAT AND THAT PUT ON THE OVERHEAD. THE QUESTION IS, IS IT, UH, SERVICEABLE? DOES IT HAVE WATER? NO, THAT'S NOT MY QUESTION. YOU CAN'T ANTICIPATE THE QUESTIONS AND THE SWIMMING POOL. RANDY SUPERVISOR RUSSELL, COULD YOU JUST, UH, PLEASE SHOW THE OWNER, UH, YOUR PICTURE SO THAT UH, SHE MAY ANSWER MR. ANDIS. OKAY. ON THAT PICTURE, YOU, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT SERVICEABILITY. UM, ON THAT PICTURE. YOU'VE GOT A FENCE AROUND IT. CORRECT. EITHER FULL OR EMPTY. THAT POOL IS EMPTY. IT IS A SAFETY HAZARD. THE POOL POOL'S NOT WELL, IF YOU HAVE DIDN'T LIKE THAT, NOW CURRY PICTURE OF IT'S BEEN PAINTED AND REDONE. IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL. I'M SORRY THAT WASN'T BROUGHT UP BEFORE, BUT IT'S A CONCERN OF SAFETY FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN JUST OPEN THE GATE, WALK IN. IT WAS NOT AND FALL ON THIS. AND SHE'S GOT A PICTURE THAT SHOWS NO, NO, WE, THAT'S UNDER, UH, IS UNDERSTOOD, SIR. UM, NO, I AGREE TOTALLY. JUST FOR THE RECORD, THAT THAT PICTURE OR, UH, ANY ISSUES WITH THE POOL WEREN'T, WEREN'T PART OF THE, UH, PRESENTATION. MM-HMM. UM, SO I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE WHAT IT MAY HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO THE BOARD SEPARATELY, BUT THEY WEREN'T PART OF THE PRESENTATION EARLIER. SO SHE HAS NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO OKAY. TO ADDRESS 'EM. UM, I JUST SAW THAT AS A CONCERN. NO, NO. IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL AS WHERE'S THAT PICTURE? I, IF SHE'S ADDRESSED IT, THAT'S, THAT'S FINE. IT'S JUST, OKAY. THANK YOU. WELL, THIS PICTURE, I DUNNO IF YOU CAN SEE IT, BUT NO, IT'S EASY. IT'S OKAY. IT WASN'T PART OF OKAY. BUT IT, IT LOOKS NOTHING LIKE THAT. YOU HAVE IT ON MADAME CHAIR. THAT'S ALL MY UH, I MEAN IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT IT, IF YOU CAN GIVE IT TO, GIVE IT TO, UH, ONE OF THE LADIES THERE SO THEY CAN PROJECT IT OVERHEAD'S. IT'S NOT EVEN PERTINENT TO THE RESURFACE IT AND ALL THAT. . I DIDN'T WANT TO SEE IT AND I HAVE A BETTER PICTURE. IT'S ALRIGHT. HMM. STILL DANGEROUS. I KNOW. I PUT THE BIG BLACK LINE. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. FOR THE BOARD'S INFORMATION, UH, SUPERVISOR RUSSELL DID NOT PRESENT THAT AS A VIOLATION. YEAH. IN THE NOTES IT INDICATES THAT, UH, THERE WAS A VIOLATION WITH THE POOL, BUT THAT WAS COMPLIED WITH PRIOR TO TODAY. AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU. UH, OKAY. EVERYONE HAS SPOKEN. UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION HERE? I THINK MR. WE HAVE A MOTION? I THINK WE HAVE A MOTION. MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS DWAYNE NELSON. I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT ONE 10 MARY LOUISE DRIVE, WAS IN VIOLATION OF SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODES. AND THESE ARE THE CODES. SO I NEED THE BOARD TO VERIFY THAT ALL THE CODES FOR 5 25, 3 0 5 0.360 4.330 5.5 3 0, 4 0.4, AND 3 0 5 0.3, AND THAT THE PROPERTY, EVEN THOUGH IT APPEARS TO BE REPAIRED, DOES NOT MEET MY, UH, UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S BEEN PROPERLY REPAIRED. AND I ORDER THAT AN ENGINEERING REPORT BE PREPARED ON ALL THE STRUCTURAL ISSUES AND THAT REPAIRS FOR ALL OF THEM BE COMPLETED TO CODE COMPLIANCE SATISFACTION IN 90 DAYS. AND ALL PERMITS DRAWN BEFORE WORK BEGINS. DON'T FORGET THE FINES, MS. CHAIR. THIS IS LEGAL. YES. LEGAL. I, I, I BELIEVE THE STRUCTURAL MEMBERS, UM, 3 0 4 0.4 WAS ACTUALLY DATED FOR, UM, JULY 7TH. IT WAS CORRECTED AND [02:15:01] MOVED TO JULY 7TH. SO THERE WERE ACTUALLY THREE VIOLATIONS FROM JULY 7TH. THE REMAINING ARE FROM, UH, ARE, ARE FOR MAY 25TH, 2015. I AMEND THE, THE MOTION THEN TO DROP THE 3 0 5 0.430 AND I'LL MAKE THAT AS A SECOND. MOTION 3 0 4 0.4. MY UNDER, UH, THIS IS FRED ANDIS. MY UNDERSTANDING IS 3 0 4 0.430 4.230 9.1 ARE ALL ON THE SAME AS 7 7 0 2. YES. THAT'S, IT'S SEPARATE. IT'S A SEPARATE ORDER, CORRECT? YES, SIR. BECAUSE IT'S SEPARATE DATES. YES, SIR. IF THAT MOTION WILL FOLLOW. DO YOU WANNA GO OVER YOUR MOTIONS AGAIN FOR THE MR. NELSON? WHAT WAS THIS MOTION? IS IT FOR THE REMAINING OR IS IT FOR THE THREE WE JUST DISCUSSED? NO, THE MOTION IS FOR EVERYTHING ON 5 25. ALL OF THOSE REMAIN IN VIOLATION AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED. SO 5 25 OF THE REMAINING PART. AND THIS MOTION IS DEALING WITH 5 25 MM-HMM. . OKAY. BRING UP. YOU CAN BRING UP A FRONT. MR. NELSON? YES, MA'AM. UM, IS THERE A DEADLINE FOR, UH, WHEN THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO RECEIVE EVERYTHING WAS 90 DAYS THE ENGINEER'S REPORT AS WELL? SAY THAT AGAIN, MA'AM? UH, THE DEADLINE TO RECEIVE THE ENGINEER'S REPORT, UH, REGARDING ALL STRUCTURAL ISSUES, UH, THAT COULD BE DONE. THE ENGINEERING REPORTS SHOULD BE RECEIVED IN 30 DAYS AND ALL REPAIRS COMPLETED IN 90 DAYS TO SATISFACTION OF THE CODE OFFICER. AND IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME TO AMEND IT, I DO THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME REPORTS COMING BACK TO THE CODE OFFICER ON EVERY 30 DAYS SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND AT LEAST PROGRESS IS BEING MADE ON IT. SO, MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD AMEND THE MOTION SLIGHTLY BY SAYING PROGRESS REPORTS IN 30 DAYS TO THE CODE OFFICER. NO. OKAY. AND YOU WANNA DO THE, THE SEVENTH? JULY 7TH WE NEED TO DISPENSE OF THE, UH, MOTION FOR 5 25 FIRST I'LL MAKE THE MOTION FOR SEVEN. SEVEN AS A SEPARATE MOTION. SECOND. OH, SO YOU NEED YOU LOOKING FOR A SECOND FOR THIS? I, I'M NEEDING SECOND FOR THE FIRST MOTION. I'M SORRY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THE FIRST MOTION OF, UH, MAY 25TH FOR VIOLATIONS? UM, 3 0 5 0.5, UM, UH, 3 0 5 0.330 5.4 3 0, 4 0.2 3 0, 4 0.630 9.1 AND 6 0 9. 6 0 4 0.3. IS THAT CORRECT? COUNSEL? YOU'LL NEED TO VERIFY THIS. 3 0 5 0.4 WAS ACTUALLY A SEVEN. SEVEN. YEAH. VIOLATION. SO DROP THAT ONE OFF OF THE MOTION. OKAY. AND I'LL MAKE THAT AS A PART OF THE SECOND MOTION. IT WAS 3 0 5 0.4, NOT THREE. OH, 4.4. I'M SORRY. THIS IS LEGAL. IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. YES. UM, MAY 25TH, 2022. THE VIOLATIONS ARE, AND I'LL DO IT IN NUMERICAL ORDER. 3 0 4 0.6. EXTERIOR WALLS, 3 0 5 0.3. INTERIOR SURFACES 3 0 5 0.4 STAIRS AND WALKING SURFACES. 3 0 5 0.5 HANDRAILS AND GUARDS. AND 6 0 4 0.3 ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS HAZARDS. THOSE ARE THE, ALL ENCOMPASSING FROM MAY 25TH, 2022. OKAY. DID YOU SAY 3 0 5 0.3? YES. OKAY. YES MA'AM. I DID. OKAY. AND 3, 3 0 5 0.3 INTERIOR SURFACES. OKAY. AND 3 0 5 0.4. YES, I DID. THAT IS STAIRS AND WALKING SURFACES. OKAY. AND, UM, 3 0 9 0.1. NO, THAT'S WITH THE JULY 25TH. JULY 7TH. CORRECT. THAT, THAT'S WITH THE JULY, UH, SEVENTH. YES, MA'AM. GOT IT. OKAY. OKAY. SO OUR ORDER IS FOR THOSE VIOLATIONS AND, UH, WE HAVE A 90 DAY REPAIR ORDER [02:20:01] AND, UH, PROGRESS REPORT EVERY 30 DAYS TO THE, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. IS THAT ALL ENGINEER REPORT REQUIRED IN 30 DAYS FOR ALL STRUCTURAL ITEMS? ENGINEER REPORT IN 30 DAYS FOR ALL STRUCTURAL, UH, REPORTS FOR ALL STRUCTURAL, UH, REPORTS AND PULL PERMITS. PERMITS REQUIRED? YES. OKAY. AND FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO ADD PERMITS. DISCUSSION. WELL, I CAN'T ADD ANY AMENDMENTS YET UNTIL SOMEBODY SECONDS IT. OH, NO WE HAVEN'T. WELL, I WAS JUST REVIEWING IT. OKAY. RIGHT. SO THAT'S NOT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. THAT WAS, I WAS JUST ASKING THE QUESTION BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT SAID PERMITS, . OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. COPY. SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A SECOND. NOW. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT IN THERE THAT A THOUSAND DOLLARS FINE PER OFFENSE IMMEDIATELY AND FOR EVERY DAY OVER THE 90 DAYS. A $500 DAY FINE. OKAY. WE HAVE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT OF ONE. I'LL SECOND THAT. FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. OH, OKAY. UH, POINT OF ORDER. HE HAS TO AGREE TO THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT BEFORE IT. SECOND ONE, ONE MOMENT. I'M CHECKING MY NOTES. IF I REMEMBER, I'LL, I'LL ACCEPT YOUR FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. OKAY. 'CAUSE I DID NOT HEAR YOU. UH, STIPULATE FINES. I'LL ACCEPT YOUR FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS. OKAY. WE HAD A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT FOR, UM, A THOUSAND DOLLARS, UH, PER OFFENSE PER VIOLATION. AND EVERY DAY THAT THE VIOLATIONS CONTINUE TO GO UN UH, UNREPAIRED IS A $500 FINE PER DAY. PER DAY IT WAS. BUT THAT'S AFTER THE 90 DAYS. YEAH. RIGHT AFTER THE 90 DAYS. ANY DAYS OR ANY VIOLATION THAT IS NOT COMPLETED WOULD BE A $500 DAY FINE. OKAY. AFTER THE 90 DAYS, UH, THE FINE WILL BE $500 PER DAY FOR EVERY OFFENSE THAT'S NOT REPAIRED. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S IT. OKAY. UH, COULD WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? DWAYNE NELSON. AYE. JESSE ZUNIGA. AYE. ROBERT TAPIA. AYE. MS. BROWN? AYE. DAVID GARZA. AYE. JOEL SOLIS. AYE. FRED ANDES AYE. MOTION PASSES WITH THE VOTE OF SEVEN TO ZERO. OKAY. MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS DWAYNE NELSON. YES, MS. I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT ONE 10 MARY LOUISE DRIVE, WAS IN VIOLATION OF SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODES 3 0 4 0.230 9.130 4.4, AND 3 0 3 0 4 0.430 4.4. UH, AND THAT THE VIOLATIONS CONTINUE TO EXIST IN ORDER THAT THERE BE A, UH, ENGINEER'S REPORT ON THE STRUCTURAL ISSUES IN 30 DAYS AND THAT THE REPAIRS BE MADE IN 90 DAYS AND ALL PERMITS REQUIRED TO BE DRAWN BEFORE WORK BEGINS. OKAY. LET ME SEE IF I, OKAY. WE HAVE, UM, FOR JULY THE SEVENTH, WE HAVE 3 0 4 0.4, 3 0 4 0.2 AND 3 0 9 0.1 VIOLATIONS. AND, UH, WE REQUIRE ENGINEERS REPORT, UH, FOR THE WITHIN 30 DAYS, 90 DAYS FOR REPAIR AND ALL PERMITS, UH, PULLED. AND, UM, I THINK THAT WAS IT. IS THAT IT? THAT'S IT. OKAY. THAT'S IT. SO DO WE HAVE A SECOND, ROBERT? TOP YOU SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, MADAM CHAIR? FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. YES. FRIENDLY AMENDMENT IS ALSO, COULD WE ADD THAT WITHIN THOSE 90 DAYS THAT A REPORT BE GIVEN TO OUR CO COMPLIANCE TO REINSPECT EVERY 90 OR 30 DAYS OKAY. AND ASSESS AN IMMEDIATE FINE OF $1,000 PER OFFENSE. AND WITH THE 90 DAY, IF IT GOES OVER 90 DAYS PER OFFENSE, $500 A DAY. MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD NOT ACCEPT A THOUSAND DOLLARS PER, UH, FOR OFFENSE BECAUSE THESE WERE DATED SEVEN SEVEN AND THAT'S INSUFFICIENT [02:25:01] TIMES TO PROVIDE THE, UH, THAT AMEN. BRENDA, A PARTICULAR ONE. BUT I WOULD ADD AMENDMENT TO HAVE A $500 FINE AFTER THE 90 DAYS EACH DAY. UH, AND THE SECOND PART OF YOUR AMENDMENT, UH, FRED WAS, UH, REQUIREMENT FOR 30 DAY UPDATE AND I WOULD ACCEPT THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT ADDITION. OKAY. THEN I WOULD AMEND TO DROP THE THOUSAND DOLLARS. OKAY. SINCE I DIDN'T ACCEPT IT. IT'S THEREFORE ACCEPTED TO BE AMENDED. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? UH, IT'S ROBERT TOBY SECOND. OKAY. UH, LET ME SEE IF I GOT THIS STRAIGHT ON THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE $500 A DAY FINE FOR EACH DAY AFTER THE 90 DAYS THAT THE OFFENSES ARE NOT REPAIRED. WE HAVE, UM, WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE? WE HAVE, UM, OH, A 90 DAY FOR COMPLETION AND, UH, 30 DAYS FOR AN ENGINEER'S REPORT AND CODE COMPLIANCE EVERY 30 DAYS AND 30. AND CODE COMPLIANCE REPORTS TO CODE COMPLIANCE EVERY 30 DAYS. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. UM, WE HAVE, UH, THAT WAS ANY MORE DISCUSSION? BOTH. OKAY. LET'S TAKE A VOTE PLEASE. DUANE NELSON. AYE. JESSE ZUNIGA. AYE. ROBERT TAPIA. AYE. MS. BROWN? AYE. AYE. DAVID GARZA. AYE. JOEL SOLIS. AYE. BRETT ANDES AYE. MOTION PASSES WITH A VOTE OF SEVEN TO ZERO. OKAY. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING IN. DO YOU, UH, UM, MR. MR. ATTORNEY, WOULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN TO YOUR CLIENT HOW SERIOUS THIS IS? THIS WHOLE STRUCTURE IS? YES, MA'AM. AND, UH, FORWARD THEM, YOU KNOW, THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE, UH, THAT WE JUST MADE. AND IF YOU NEED ANY HELP, PLEASE ASK THE, UH, OFFICER TO ASSIST YOU. YES, MA'AM. AS A, UH, CLARIFICATION, UH, UM, TO THE BOARDER, UH, SAVITA IT, WILL THERE BE A WRITTEN ORDER FOLLOWING THAT? THE BOARD'S RESOLUTION? I TOOK NOTES. UH, BUT I JUST, IT'S A POINT. IT'S A YES. I'M SURE IT WILL BE, BUT I'M SURE THERE WILL BE TOO. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. YEAH. GET WITH THE CODE OFFICER. OKAY. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING IN AND, UH, UH, AS AN ASIDE, UH, GUILLERMO, UH, GO AHEAD AND CALL ME, UM, OKAY. WITH ANY QUESTIONS. YOU'VE GOT MY, UH, NUMBER? I DO. THANK YOU, SABINA. THANK YOU. OKAY. MADAM CHAIR. OH, YES. THIS IS AMIN WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. CAN WE, UH, DO THE, UH, DECONSTRUCTION ORDINANCE REAL QUICK? IT'S ABOUT 10 MINUTE PRESENTATION. OKAY. SURE. THANK YOU. DO, DO WE NEED A FIVE MINUTE BREAK HERE? IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO OH EIGHT, LET'S GO. OKAY. BY THE TIME WE GET HERE, IT'S 1208. NO, WE'RE STILL MISSING A FEW. WE'RE STILL MISSING A FEW. ALRIGHT. HE'S CRYING. ANY BOARD MEMBERS WHO ARE NOT HERE, PLEASE SHOW UP. IT'S 1208 AND WE'RE BACK IN SESSION, I THINK. YEAH. OKAY. WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? SURE. UM, MY NAME IS STEPHANIE PHILLIPS AND I WORK FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION. WE ARE AT 100 WEST HOUSTON STREET. GIRLFRIEND, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO SPEAK LOUDER THAN THAT. OH, OKAY. I CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT. I USED TO BE AN ORIENTATION LEADER, SO I CAN PROJECT IF I NEED TO. UM, MY NAME IS STEPHANIE PHILLIPS. I WORK FOR THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION, AND WE ARE AT 100 WEST HOUSTON STREET. OKAY. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY AND FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND FOR YOUR TENACITY. UM, WE ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF A PROPOSED ORDINANCE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS NOW, UM, FOCUSED ON DECONSTRUCTION. OKAY. OH, SHOULD THIS WORK? THANK YOU. NEXT TWO. OKAY. UM, SO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE WAS A SHORT ANIMATION THAT'S ON OUR WEBSITE, WHICH I DEFINITELY RECOMMEND WATCHING. UM, THAT GOES OVER THE, THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF DECONSTRUCTION. BUT THIS IMAGE IS A GOOD ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO, UM, DECONSTRUCTION IS A BUILDING REMOVAL ALTERNATIVE TO DEMOLITION. SO IT RESULTS IN THE SAME OUTCOME. IT RESULTS IN A CLEAN SITE. UM, BUT THE METHOD FOR REMOVING THAT STRUCTURE IS DIFFERENT INSTEAD OF USING HEAVY MACHINERY TO QUICKLY REMOVE IT AND CRUSH THE MATERIALS AND THROW THEM AWAY, UM, DECONSTRUCTION USES MOSTLY HUMAN LABOR WITH SOME MACHINE HELP TO DISMANTLE A BUILDING USUALLY IN THE OPPOSITE ORDER. IT WAS CONSTRUCTED WITH THE GOAL OF MAXIMIZING MATERIAL REUSE, UM, AND MATERIAL SALVAGE. [02:30:01] SO BOTH OF THESE PICTURES THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN WERE TAKEN IN SAN ANTONIO. UM, THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT WAS IN, IN THE NEAR EAST SIDE, TAKEN MAYBE FOUR YEARS AGO. AND THEN THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT WAS OF A FULL SCALE DECONSTRUCTION THAT OCCURRED OF A TWO STORY STRUCTURE THAT USED TO BE NEXT TO ECO CENTRO, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA NEAR TOBIN HILL. UM, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO DIVERT 90% OF THE MATERIALS FROM THE LANDFILL THROUGH THAT METHOD OF BUILDING REMOVAL. AND, UM, OUR DECONSTRUCTION CONTRACTORS THAT WORKED ON THE PROJECT, UM, ONE OF THEIR ANECDOTES WAS SOME OF THE HARDWOOD FLOORING THAT YOU SEE BEING LIFTED UP IN THAT IMAGE WENT RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER TO A HOUSE THAT WAS GETTING AN ADDITION BUILT ONTO IT BECAUSE THE OWNERS WANTED HARDWOOD FLOORING THAT MATCHED THEIR LIKE 1920S STRUCTURE. SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE WHOLE IDEA BEHIND IT IS THAT WE'RE USING THE MATERIALS THAT ARE ALREADY LATENT ON OUR COMMUNITIES. INSTEAD OF SENDING THEM TO THE LANDFILL, LET'S RECOVER THEM THROUGH THIS BUILDING REMOVAL METHOD AND REUSE THEM IDEALLY IN REPAIRING OTHER BUILDINGS SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE DEMOLISHED IN THE FUTURE. NEXT SLIDE. AND THESE ARE JUST SOME EXAMPLES OF OTHER HIGH DEMAND SALVAGEABLE BUILDING COMPONENTS. UM, WE RECEIVE EMAILS WEEKLY, EITHER FROM PEOPLE THAT HAVE BUILDING MATERIALS THAT THEY WANT TO DONATE INSTEAD OF THROW AWAY AND ASK KIND OF, WHERE CAN WE DO THAT? AND THEN WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT REACH OUT AND SAY, I'M LOOKING FOR CERTAIN BUILDING MATERIALS THAT MAYBE MATCH MY HOUSE, OR I'M LOOKING FOR, AGAIN, THAT FLOORING OR THAT TILE OR A FIXTURE, UH, THAT I WANT TO DO TO FAITH FAITHFULLY RESTORE MY BUILDING. SO THESE ARE JUST SOME EXAMPLES OF THOSE MATERIALS THAT CAN BE RECOVERED THROUGH DECONSTRUCTION NEXT. SO THIS ANALOGY IS ONE THAT WE'VE BEEN USING AS KIND OF THE CORNERSTONE OF OUR PROGRAM. UM, LIKE AN ORGAN DONOR, A STRUCTURE MAY HAVE REACHED THE END OF ITS LIFE, BUT ITS PARTS AND PIECES COULD HELP EXTEND THE LIVES OF DOZENS OF OTHER LOCAL STRUCTURES. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE BIG FRAMEWORK OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH. AND THEN THIS GRAPHIC ON THE BOTTOM JUST KIND OF DEMONSTRATES ALL OF THESE MIRAD, SOCIAL, ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY BENEFITS THAT ARE UNLOCKED BY DECONSTRUCTING A BUILDING VERSUS DEMOLISHING IT NEXT. SO HERE'S SOME DATA THAT WE'VE MAPPED, UM, IN TWO DIFFERENT WAYS FOR SAN ANTONIO. UM, OF COURSE, Y'ALL ARE VERY ATTUNED TO THIS, BUT, UH, WE, OUR OFFICE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION, WE SIGN OFF ON EVERY SEMI SINGLE DEMOLITION REQUEST IN THE CITY. SO WE GET ALL OF THOSE APPLICATIONS IN ADDITION TO D S D. SO WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT WHAT A DECONSTRUCTION POLICY MIGHT LOOK LIKE FOR SAN ANTONIO IN 2018. THAT'S WHAT THAT LITTLE LINE IS THERE ON THE LINE GRAPH. UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TRENDING UPWARDS, STILL. WE'RE AVERAGING AROUND 500 DEMOLITIONS A YEAR. AND THEN YOU SEE THAT HEAT MAP IN THE CENTRAL CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WHERE THOSE DEMOLITIONS ARE LARGELY CONCENTRATED. AND THEN THIS IS A VERY CHAOTIC SLIDE. I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF WORDS, BUT IT'S JUST TO DEMONSTRATE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS DISCUSSION FOR QUITE SOME TIME. UM, IN 2018, WE FORMED A DECONSTRUCTION ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT KIND OF FORMS AS A TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE WITH DEMOLITION CONTRACTORS, DECONSTRUCTION CONTRACTORS, DEVELOPERS, REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS AS WELL, AS WELL AS THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY, UM, SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT, A BUNCH OF HABITAT FOR HUMANITY. UM, A LOT OF THE OTHER LOCAL STAKEHOLDERS THAT COULD HELP ADVISE US ON WHAT SOMETHING MIGHT LOOK LIKE FOR SAN ANTONIO. AND WE'VE ALSO BRIEFED CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEES FOR SEPARATE TIMES. UM, WE'VE ALSO HOSTED DECONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR TRAINING. SO WE, WE KNOW THAT IF PEOPLE WANT DECONSTRUCTION TO HAPPEN, THEY NEED SOMEONE TO DO IT FOR THEM. UM, SO WE WERE HOSTING, UM, THE FIRST AND SECOND DECONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR TRAININGS, UM, AND WE'RE HOSTING ANOTHER ONE THIS FALL. SO IF YOU KNOW OF ANYONE THAT IS LOOKING TO ADD THIS TO THEIR , UM, BUSINESS MODEL OR WANTS TO START A NEW CAREER, THAT IS A REALLY GOOD PATHWAY FOR THEM. NEXT. SO THERE ARE FOUR KEY ISSUES THAT ARE KIND OF UMBRELLA ISSUES IN SAN ANTONIO THAT THIS IS TACKLING, UM, THROUGH THE GUIDANCE OF CITY COUNCIL AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS. UM, WE COMMISSIONED A STUDY BACK IN 20, UH, 21 TO KIND OF ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE SCALE OF, UH, BUILDING DECONSTRUCTION AND DEMOLITION IN SAN ANTONIO. AND WE ARE ABLE TO QUANTIFY THAT OVER $16 MILLION WORTH OF SALVAGEABLE BUILDING MATERIALS HAS BEEN SENT TO THE LANDFILL IN THE PAST 10 YEARS. UM, SO WE'RE, THAT'S REALLY KIND OF TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THESE MATERIALS TYPICALLY HAVE VALUE AND WE WANT TO REDIRECT THAT VALUE BACK INTO SAN ANTONIO INSTEAD OF TO THE LANDFILL. UM, I ALREADY MENTIONED THAT DEMOLITION STATISTIC. ANOTHER IMPORTANT PIECE IS THAT DEMOLITION DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTS VULNERABLE POPULATIONS. UM, IF IT'S NOT DONE CORRECTLY, IT CAN BE A FORM OF AIR POLLUTION. UM, SO WE REALLY WANNA MITIGATE THAT THROUGH DECONSTRUCTION, BECAUSE DECONSTRUCTION, BY AND LARGE, USING HUMAN LABOR MINIMIZES THE DEMOLITION DUST AND KIND OF ACTUALLY INCREASES THE PROBABILITY OF SAFE HAZARDOUS ABATEMENT BEFORE THAT BUILDING IS REMOVED. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF BENEFITS TO DOING IT THIS WAY FROM A PUBLIC HEALTH PERSPECTIVE AS WELL. AND THEN THERE IS CURRENTLY AN EQUITY DISPARITY IN MATERIAL ACCESS AND AFFORDABILITY. SO YOU CAN IMAGINE IF WE ARE ABLE TO REDIRECT THOSE MATERIALS BACK INTO SAN ANTONIO AND WE HAVE A LARGER BANK OF THOSE MATERIALS FOR PEOPLE TO [02:35:01] ACCESS, THEY'LL BECOME MORE AFFORDABLE AND MORE ACCESSIBLE TO A LARGER GROUP OF STAKEHOLDERS INSTEAD OF KIND OF, SOMETIMES PEOPLE THINK OF ARCHITECTURAL SALVAGE AS LIKE HIGH-END ANTIQUES, RIGHT? UM, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS KIND OF MATERIAL IS WIDELY ACCESSIBLE TO SAN ANTONIANS NEXT. SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS HAVE KIND OF MANIFESTED INTO OUR PROGRAM PRIORITIES OVER TIME. SO I'VE ALREADY KIND OF MENTIONED THIS. WE REALLY WANNA FOCUS ON USING RECLAIMED MATERIALS TO SUPPORT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND REPAIR AND PRODUCTION PROJECTS, EITHER DONE BY THE CITY THROUGH THEIR MANY PROGRAMS OR THROUGH AFFORDABLE HOUSING PARTNERS LIKE HABITAT. UM, WE WANT TO DEVELOP WHAT'S CALLED A LOCAL CIRCULAR ECONOMY, WHICH BASICALLY MEANS WE WANNA USE THE MATERIALS THAT ALREADY EXIST INSTEAD OF THROWING THEM AWAY. IT'S KIND OF THE INDUSTRY TERM FOR IT. SO KIND OF FACILITATE THAT. UM, AT A BROAD SCALE. WE ALSO WANNA INCREASE OUR LOCAL POOL OF TRADESPEOPLE. UM, WE SEE DECONSTRUCTION AS A LEGACY HERITAGE TRADE AKIN WITH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT WORK ON OLDER STRUCTURES THAT REPAIR WOOD WINDOWS OR REPAIR SIDING OR DO KIND OF ARCHITECTURAL, UM, DETAILING RESTORATION. YOU KNOW, THAT IS THE SAME KIND OF LEGACY TRADE. AND ONE OF OUR LOCAL, UH, CONTRACTORS REALLY SAYS IT BEST. IF SOMEONE GIVES YOU LIKE A DISMANTLED TOASTER AND SAYS, PUT THIS BACK CADET, PUT THIS BACK TOGETHER, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA BE LIKE, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT. UM, BUT IF YOU TAKE APART THE TOASTER FIRST, YOU'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF HOW TO PUT IT BACK TOGETHER. SO IF YOU APPLY THAT TO A HOUSE, A REALLY GOOD WAY TO LEARN HOW TO PUT TOGETHER A HOUSE CORRECTLY IS BY DISMANTLING IT FIRST. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF, UM, ARCHITECTURE PROGRAMS TOO THAT ARE STARTING TO LOOK AT, OH, WE SHOULD REALLY BE TRAINING OUR ARCHITECTS AND OUR CONTRACTORS ON DECONSTRUCTION TECHNIQUES SO THEY HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF HOW TO BUILD A HOUSE THEMSELVES. UM, AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, UM, WE DEFINITELY WANNA SUPPORT THE GROWING INDUSTRIES IN, UM, DECONSTRUCTION AND SALVAGE AND, UM, WHAT WE CALL MANU VALUE ADDED MANUFACTURING. WHAT THAT MEANS IS WHAT YOU SEE, UM, OFTEN LIKE SOMEONE USING A PIECE OF RECLAIMED LUMBER TO MAKE FURNITURE OR AN ART PIECE. SO THAT IS VALUE, ADDING VALUE TO A MATERIAL THAT ALREADY EXISTS AND BEING ABLE TO, UM, IMBUE MORE VALUE INTO IT IN ITS SECOND LIFE. NEXT. SO I HAD MENTIONED OUR DECONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR TRAINING EARLIER. THESE ARE PHOTOS FROM BOTH OF THOSE TRAININGS. UM, WE WERE ABLE TO WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE AS WELL AS THE CITY'S PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT TO PARTIALLY DISMANTLE TWO STRUCTURES. AND YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THOSE THAT, THAT, THAT DECONSTRUCTION HAPPENING WITH THE WINDOWS AND DOORS BEING CAREFULLY REMOVED WITH AIRFRAMES, UM, LONG PIECES OF HARDWOOD FLOORING, SHIPLAP ALL BEING TAKEN APART AND HEADED TO THEIR NEXT DESTINATION FOR REUSE. NEXT. AND THEN RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT THE STAGE WHERE WE HAVE A DRAFT ORDINANCE. UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO, THIS IS A LOT OF TEXT, SO I'LL, I'LL GO OVER THAT QUICKLY. UM, BUT WE HAVE THREE PHASES AND, AND IMBUED IN THIS ORDINANCE. UM, PHASE ONE WILL FOCUS ON CITY EXECUTED D DEMOLITIONS. SO IF THIS BOARD RECOMMENDS THAT A BUILDING BE ABATED AND IT FALLS WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF PHASE TWO, UM, WHICH I'LL DESCRIBE IN A SECOND, THEN THAT BUILDING WILL BE DECONSTRUCTED BY THE CITY'S DEMOLITION CONTRACTOR INSTEAD OF DEMOLISHED. UM, THE PARAMETERS THAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON IN THE FIRST PHASE TO KIND OF SLOWLY CAPTURE, UM, LIKE DIG INTO THOSE CURRENT DEMOLITION PERMITS IS ANY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE, FOUR UNITS OR LESS, WHICH INCLUDES SINGLE FAMILY BUILT IN 1920 OR EARLIER CITYWIDE WILL BE SUBJECT TO THIS ORDINANCE. AND THEN IF THAT HOUSE IS IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT OR A NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT, THAT DATE IS 1945 AND EARLIER. UM, SO A LOT OF YOU MAY KNOW THAT AFTER WORLD WAR II, KIND OF THE, THE CONSTRUCTION METHODS OF OUR HOUSING CHANGED. UM, SO A LOT OF CITIES THAT HAVE LOOKED AT THIS, THIS KIND OF POLICY OR, UM, ALREADY HAVE DECONSTRUCTION POLICIES ARE REALLY FOCUSING ON THOSE, UM, OLDER STRUCTURES THAT WERE CONSTRUCTED IN A WAY THAT CAN BE EASILY DISMANTLED, YOU KNOW, RELATIVELY, UM, BUT THEN ALSO HAVE KIND OF THAT GOLD THAT WE SAY THAT OLD HARDWOOD HARDWOOD LUMBER, UM, OLD GROWTH LUMBER THAT IS BASICALLY EXTINCT IN OUR FORESTS AT THIS POINT. UM, SO WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON THOSE SMALLER SCALE STRUCTURES AND THE ONES THAT HAVE THE MATERIALS THAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING US TO FIND. UM, AND THEN PHASE THREE IS SOMETHING THAT WILL EXPAND IN 2025, AND THAT WILL EXPAND TO 1945 AND EARLIER CITYWIDE FOR, UM, RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES, EIGHT UNITS OR LESS. AND THEN 1960 IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICTS. AND THEN, UM, PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION, I JUST WANNA MENTION THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS, UM, GOING TO BE ADMINISTERED BY O H P. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE EXISTING DEMOLITION PERMIT PROCESS. I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT OUR OFFICE ALREADY REVIEWS AND SIGNS OFF ON EVERY SINGLE DEMOLITION REQUEST. SO WE ALREADY HAVE THAT WORKFLOW ESTABLISHED WITH D S D, UM, AND WE'RE GONNA BE USING THOSE DECONSTRUCTION CONTRACTORS THAT ARE TRAINED THROUGH THESE PROGRAMS AND OUT THERE IN THE FIELD DOING THIS WORK FOR OUR COMMUNITY. [02:40:01] UM, AND THEN WE'RE, UM, GONNA BE ABLE TO KIND OF TRACK THAT PROGRAM IMPACT AS WELL. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, UM, SOME OF YOU MAY ALREADY BE WONDERING WHERE'S THE MATERIAL GONNA GO? THAT IS A QUESTION THAT WE GET ALL THE TIME. UM, SO SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO FOCUS ON AS WE WERE WORKING UP TO THIS POLICY IS ANSWERING THAT QUESTION. AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE THAT AS OF MARCH, WELL, FORMALLY IN JUNE, UM, THE CITY IS TENANTS OF, UH, THE PORT SAN ANTONIO BUNGALOW COLONY. SO IF Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH TECH PORT SA, THE BRAND NEW LIKE TECH PORT ARENA THAT THE PORT SAN ANTONIO HAS CREATED, THIS IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT. AND I HIGHLY RECOMMEND LIKE DRIVING THROUGH IT BECAUSE IT'S A MAGICAL NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, THIS CLUSTER OF 25 STRUCTURES ABOUT, UH, WAS BUILT IN 1920 ISH FOR THE GENERALS THAT USED TO LIVE IN THEIR FAMILIES AT, UH, KELLY FIELD. AND THOSE BUNGALOW STRUCTURES ARE ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES. AND WE'RE USING OUR LIVING HERITAGE TRADES ACADEMY TO HELP RESTORE THOSE STRUCTURES. IT'S LIKE A LIVING LAB FOR PEOPLE TO LEARN HOW TO ADEQUATELY RESTORE BUILDINGS. SO WE'RE NOT ONLY REBUILDING THAT TRADES WORKFORCE, BUT WE'RE ALSO USING THE GARAGE STRUCTURE THAT YOU SEE IN THE MIDDLE THERE THAT'S BEING RESTORED, UM, AS A PLACE FOR MATERIAL RECEIVERSHIP AND DONATION IF PEOPLE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THE MATERIALS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF THEIR BUILDING. AND THAT WAY WE CAN ACTUALLY TRULY REDIRECT THEM BACK INTO THOSE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAMS. SO THAT IS IT, I BELIEVE. UM, AND THIS IS JUST A BRIEFING, SO THERE'S NO ACTION NEEDED FROM Y'ALL TODAY, BUT WE ARE CERTAINLY HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. YES. HOW IS THE CITY BEING INVOLVED IN THIS, THIS PROJECT THAT Y'ALL ARE HAVING ON THIS PROGRAM? YEAH, SO IT'S A, IT'S A, A CITY PROGRAM. SO WE HAVE A, A DECONSTRUCTION PROGRAM AND THEY'RE, EVERYTHING THAT I WENT OVER ARE COMPONENTS OF THAT PROGRAM. SO I MENTIONED THE DECONSTRUCTION ORDINANCE, THAT IS A POLICY COMPONENT, BUT THEN THE TRAINING THAT I MENTIONED, THE MATERIAL INNOVATION CENTER THAT WE JUST TOUCHED ON, THOSE ARE COMPONENTS OF THAT PROGRAM WHERE THE CITY IS KIND OF HELPING TO, TO BUILD UP THAT MARKETPLACE. WILL THERE BE ANY CHARGE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROGRAM? SO IF, UM, A BUILDING IS BEING DECONSTRUCTED, UH, EITHER LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ASKED FOR BY A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER. SO THAT COST WILL BE DISCUSSED WITH THEIR DE DECONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR. UM, DECONSTRUCTION CURRENTLY IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN DEMOLITION. DEMOLITION IS QUICK, FAST, AND EASY. UM, BUT DECONSTRUCTION USES MORE HUMAN LABOR, WHICH DEPENDING ON WHO YOU'RE TALKING TO IS A VERY GOOD THING. UM, BUT A LOT OF TIMES YOU CAN RECOVER SOME OF THAT VALUE ON THE BACKEND BECAUSE OF THE MATERIALS HAVING VALUE AND YOU CAN SELL THEM OR DONATE THEM FOR A BENEFIT. IS THE CITY GOING TO BE COMPETING WITH OTHER CONTRACTORS? NO, WE DON'T HAVE OUR OWN DECONSTRUCTION WORKFORCE. OKAY. YEAH. YOU DON'T HAVE IT YET. OH, YOU DON'T HAVE IT, PERIOD. IT WASN'T APPROVED. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU. UH, AND YOU'RE, UH, ON THIS OFFICER'S HOUSINGS MM-HMM. , UH, THE TERMITES HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO 'EM BEFORE YOU, THEY'RE IN REALLY GOOD SHAPE, ? YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME, LIKE, ESPECIALLY AROUND THEIR FOUNDATION, SOME WATER DAMAGE, BUT THEY'RE STILL HOLDING UP JUST FINE. OKAY. SO WHERE WILL WOULD THE WAREHOUSE BE? WILL IT BE INDIVIDUALLY WITH THE CONTRACTORS? SO THE WAREHOUSE IS WHERE DO CONTRACTORS CAN DONATE MATERIALS TO? SO IT'S NOT JUST ONE SPACE PER CONTRACTOR, BUT IT'S A PLACE THAT CAN RECEIVE THOSE MATERIALS. OKAY. WHERE, WHERE WOULD THAT PLACE BE AND WHAT WOULD BE THE COST? NO COST TO DONATE. UM, AND IT'S LOCATED WITHIN THAT CLUSTER OF STRUCTURES. OKAY. THE CLUSTER WOULD BE HISTORIC DISTRICTS OR IT IS A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK? YES. OKAY. IF I HAVE A, UH, A ICE HOUSE ON FREDERICKSBURG ROAD MM-HMM. AND I'M ABOLISHING KNOW I'M REFURBISHING MM-HMM. , I MEAN, COULD I TAKE THAT MATERIAL TO A TAKE? YES. AT A, A CERTAIN AREA? YEAH. YOU COULD DONATE IT TO THE WAREHOUSE PROBABLY. I I CAN SELL IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE MM-HMM. . BUT IF I WANTED TO YES, ABSOLUTELY. HOW YOU GO, UH, GET THAT, UH, VOLUNTEERS TO TAKE THE MATERIAL YEAH. OR THE CITY TRANSPORT SOME OF THAT MATERIAL FROM THE DESTRUCTION AREA. YEAH. I MEAN, WE CAN WORK WITH THAT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. WE'VE ALREADY HAD DONATIONS TO THE CENTER WHERE WE'VE AT NO COST. AT NO COST. YES. THEY, THEY CAN TELL YOU YES. MM-HMM. . OKAY. SO THE CITY WON'T BE COMPETING. ABSOLUTELY NOT. THAT WAS, THAT WAS BY DESIGN. MM-HMM. WHAT? YEAH. . OH, THAT'D MAKE YOU TO [02:45:01] SIGN THAT WAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. . THANK YOU. GREAT. QUESTIONS. SO I HAVE A QUESTION. MM-HMM. , I HEARD YOU SAY IN THE BEGINNING THAT, UM, THAT THESE COMPANIES, UH, SOME OF THEM INCLUDE, UH, DEVELOPERS, OR DID YOU SAY, UH, I THINK YOU SAID DEVELOPERS AND, UM, THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN OUR DECONSTRUCTION ADVISORY COMMITTEE. UM, SO ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS THAT WE DID WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT WHAT A DECONSTRUCTION POLICY MIGHT LOOK LIKE FOR SAN ANTONIO, OF COURSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT MADE SENSE FOR OUR CITY SPECIFICALLY. SO WE PUT TOGETHER A TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, OF PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE INDUSTRY, INCLUDING PEOPLE THAT ARE DEVELOPERS, JUST TO GET THEIR INSIGHT. I, I, I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION. MM-HMM. , I THINK GIVING WE, THE CITY ALREADY GIVES DEVELOPERS PLENTY OF MONEY TO DEVELOP PROPERTY. MM-HMM. . OKAY. I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU ALL ARE INCLUDING DEVELOPERS IN THIS PROGRAM. THIS SHOULD BE FOR SMALL CONTRACTING COMPANIES. MM-HMM. OR SMALL INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE SALVAGING THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE THE CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL OR THE CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL. RIGHT. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, TO BRING THEM INTO SOME KIND OF, UH, ECONOMIC UP UPWARD BOUND. RIGHT. DEVELOPERS DON'T NEED ANYTHING. YES. YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY, THEY DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH OLD HOUSES. THEY WANT TO TEAR 'EM DOWN AND PUT SIX IN ITS PLACE. MM-HMM. . RIGHT. YOU KNOW, AND, UH, I, I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT PORTION OF IT OKAY. BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS, YOU KNOW, WANT TO SEE THE HISTORIC HOMES SAVED MM-HMM. AND, UH, WE SEE THE, THE VALUE IN THE HISTORIC HOMES. RIGHT. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T WANT THAT. MM-HMM. . AND THEY CAN GO TO THE NORTH SIDE AND LIVE IN SOMETHING THAT WAS BUILT IN 19, IN 2020. RIGHT. AND THAT'S FINE. BUT YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS, LIKE WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A HISTORIC, UM, RIGHT, RIGHT ON, UH, I THINK IT'S BEHIND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ON, UH, CHERRY, I CAN'T THINK OF THE NAME OF THE STREET. BUT ANYWAY, WE HAVE AN ARCHITECTURAL SOMETHING THERE, AND THEY HAVE BEAUTIFUL THINGS. ARCHITECTURAL ENTITY, THEY COST MM-HMM. . EXACTLY. YEAH. AND SO IS IT GONNA BE A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROGRAM WHEN YOU GO AND WANNA BUY SOMETHING OR, SO THE WHOLE INTENT IS, UM, THE KEY, THE KINDA KEYSTONE OF THE PROGRAM IS THE DECONSTRUCTION ORDINANCE. SO IF BUILDINGS DO HAVE TO COME DOWN, OF COURSE WE ARE THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION. SO WE ALWAYS WANT THE BUILDINGS TO BE SAVED IF THEY, IF THEY CAN BE SAVED. BUT IF NOT, AND THEY'RE OF THAT HISTORIC AGE, THEN WE WANT THEM TO BE DECONSTRUCTED. SO THE WHOLE INTENT IS FOR THOSE MATERIALS, INSTEAD OF SENDING THEM TO THE LANDFILL AFTER THEY'VE BEEN CRUSHED BY A HEAVY MACHINE, WE'RE ABLE TO REDIRECT THEM BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY. SO IN OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE HAD DECONSTRUCTION ORDINANCES FOR UPWARDS OF 10 YEARS, THEY'VE SEEN A GROWTH IN LOCAL SMALL SALVAGE BUSINESSES. THEY'VE SEEN GROWTH IN LOCAL DECONSTRUCTION CONTRACTORS, UM, TO MAKE THOSE MATERIALS MORE AFFORDABLE AND MORE ACCESSIBLE TO SAN ANTONIANS. UM, SO THAT IS AN, AN OUTCOME THAT WE ANTICIPATE FROM THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM. SO YOU'RE SAYING IT'S A COST OR NOT , I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE PRIVATE, YOU KNOW, SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE GROWING, I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT THEY'LL BE SELLING MATERIALS FOR FREE. BUT THE MORE BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN THE MARKETPLACE, THE MORE COST COMPETITIVE RECLAIMED MATERIALS CAN FINALLY BECOME WITH NEW MATERIALS. SO THAT'S THE GOAL. THANK YOU. OF COURSE. THIS IS FRED ANDERSON. LET ME ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS HERE. ON YOUR FIRST PRESENTATION, THE FIRST SLIDE THAT YOU HAD UP THERE MM-HMM. , IT'S MISRE, UH, MISREPRESENTED BIG TIME. OKAY. FOR ONE, THE WAY I READ IT IS IT SAYS DECONSTRUCTION ORDINANCE BRIEFING. MM-HMM. BUILDING STANDARD BOARD. YOU'RE PUTTING OUR NAME ON SOMETHING THAT WE ARE NOT DOING. OH. THAT'S JUST THAT WHO WE'RE PRESENTING TO. THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT READS. OKAY. WE'LL CHANGE IT ALSO, IF THIS IS A PROPOSAL MM-HMM. , IT SHOULD HAVE READ PROPOSAL AND THEN EVERYBODY WOULD UNDERSTAND. BUT WHEN YOU PUT IT AS DECONSTRUCTION ORDINANCE, IT'S ALREADY IN PLACE. AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT AUTHORITY HERE STATING THAT WE ARE THE ONES THAT DID THE ORDINANCE. OKAY. UNDERSTOOD. TO I'M A GENERAL CONTRACTOR. MM-HMM. , RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL. AND IN SOME OF THAT, YOU'RE AUTHORIZING PEOPLE TO USE OLD LUMBER TO REPAIR OLD LUMBER. EXAMPLE, A STUDDED WALL. SO THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE DOESN'T REQUIRE THAT A MATERIAL COMING OUT OF A BUILDING BE USED FOR ITS ORIGINAL PURPOSE. IT DOES IN HERE, BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING PEOPLE CAN USE THAT AS A REPLACEMENT. LIKE WINDOWS IN THE CURRENT CODES THAT WE FOLLOW MM-HMM. [02:50:01] RE STATES, WHENEVER YOU'RE REPLACING A WINDOW MUST BE TO CODE. RIGHT. THESE ARE NOT TO CODE. MM-HMM. , WHEN PEOPLE LOOK AT THAT, THEY'RE GONNA GO BUY THIS STUFF, PUT IT IN, AND WHEN AN INSPECTOR COMES IN, THEY'RE GONNA FAIL THE INSPECTION. STUDDED WALLS OR ANY LOAD BEARING WALLS MUST BE REPLACED WITH NEW LUMBER. MM-HMM. . RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND FLOORS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT LOAD BEARING. AND I UNDERSTAND WALLS, ACCENT WALLS. MM-HMM. CARRY, UH, BEAMS, AS LONG AS THEY DON'T CARRY THE STRUCTURE MM-HMM. , THIS TELLS PEOPLE THAT THEY CAN GO AND DO THAT CHEAPER AND USE THE MATERIALS FOR THE PURPOSE. THEY'RE NOT INTENDED TO BE USED FOR. DID YOU CITE ANY STATE CODES OR CODES THAT WE FOLLOW IN THE CITY? RIGHT. SO THOSE ARE JUST EXAMPLE PHOTOS. WE'RE, WE'RE NOT REQUIRING PEOPLE TO USE LUMBER FOR STRUCTURAL PURPOSES OR THOSE SITUATIONS. I'M ALL FOR RECONSTRUCTION, AS LONG AS IT'S STATED. RIGHT. THE PURPOSE. MM-HMM. , THIS ORDINANCE, PEOPLE ASSUME IS WHAT THEY'RE GONNA GO BY IF IT'S NOT WORDED PROPERLY. GOOD TO KNOW. AS IT'S NOT. OKAY. PEOPLE ARE GONNA PUT OLD STUFF IN WHERE THEY'RE REPLACING SOMETHING AND THEY'RE GONNA FLUNK, WHICH IS GONNA COST THEM MORE MONEY. THANK YOU. I SAY BRING IT ON. . MADAM CHAIR. I HAVE A QUESTION. JOHN. LET MADAM CHAIR, I APPLAUD MADAM CHAIR. YES. JUST REAL QUICK. SHE'S NOT AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW. UH, WHAT, UH, GOING ALONG WITH WHAT MADAM CHAIR WAS TALKING TO YOU ABOUT MM-HMM. , I, I THINK, I THINK THIS IS A, BUT I'M GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT ON, IT'S PROBABLY A CONVERSATION FOR A DIFFERENT DAY PROBABLY, BUT I MEAN, THE SITUATION IS THIS, THAT, UH, BY GOING THROUGH O H B, WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE ON THE STREET ARE ALREADY TALKING CONTRACTORS FOR, IS THAT, IS THAT, UH, EVENTUALLY WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY WANTS TO DO, WHICH I, I, I HAVE NO COMMENT ON IT IS GO AHEAD. AND FRED SAID, UH, IF YOU GO AHEAD AND, AND PUT THE BOARDS, TAKE THE BOARD, DECONSTRUCT WHATEVER, THAT EVENTUALLY IT'LL COME BACK TO COURT COMPLIANCE AND GET A RULE IN SAY, IN FIVE YEARS OR WHATEVER, OR MAKE AN AMENDMENT THAT THEY WILL VIEW. DON'T USE THAT NUMBER FOR WHAT FRED WAS SAYING, TO REDO HOW THAT THEY RECITED. AND LIKE I SAID, THIS IS FOR, IT'S COMING DOWN THE TRACK OR PROBABLY ALREADY HEARD ABOUT IT, BUT I MEAN, THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE SAID. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, I, SOME OF THE WOOD, THE OLDER WOOD THAT THE PANEL IS TALKING ABOUT IS STRONGER BECAUSE IT'S MADE OUT OF REAL WOOD. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE REAL WOOD TODAY. . RIGHT. SOME OF, SOME OF THE, THE BEAMS, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, THE, THE FLOOR PLANKS, THEY DON'T MAKE THAT ANYMORE, YOU KNOW, OUT OF RURAL. AND SO I THINK IT'S A GREAT PO PROGRAM. THANK YOU. AND I THINK IT CAN DO A LOT OF GOOD IN SAN ANTONIO BECAUSE, UH, WE HAVE A TENDENCY TO TEAR DOWN A LOT OF STUFF AND YOU CAN GET A LOT OF REUSE OUT OF IT. RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH. MADAM CHAIR, I HAVE A QUESTION. YES. THE CITY HAS A HOUSING REHAB PROGRAM. ARE YOU GONNA USE THESE MATERIALS FOR THE CITY'S HOUSING REHAB PROGRAM? IT WILL BE AN OPTION. UM, SO FOR WHAT DO YOU MEAN YES OR NO? ? IF, IF WE WANT TO YES. MM-HMM. . SO WHAT'S THE OPTION? HOW WILL YOU KNOW WHICH WAY TO GO? SO I'LL GIVE AN EXAMPLE. UM, OUR OFFICE, SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW, WE HOST A REHAB AR PROGRAM WHERE WE, UH, RESTORE SOMETIMES UPWARD TO 20 HOUSES IN ONE DAY. AND THOSE ARE MINOR REPAIRS. AND WE'RE USUALLY DOING IT IN DISTRICTS THAT HAVE PRE 1940 HOUSING STOCK. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE'S A HOUSE THAT HAS SOME OLD LUM OLD WOOD SIDING THAT HAS DETERIORATED, BUT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE THAT SAME KIND OF SIDING FROM THE SAME CONSTRUCTION ERA AFTER IT'S BEEN CLEANED UP AND REM MILLED AND SCRAPED OF PAINT, THEN WE'RE GONNA USE THAT FOR THE SIDING REPAIR. SO THEN HOW DO YOU QUANTIFY YOUR STATEMENT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO INCREASE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PRODUCTION? SO, SOMETHING, THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE MENTIONED, 'CAUSE IT'S NOT CURRENT. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HOPE TO GROW TO IN THE FUTURE. IS THAT ONE REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE THAT I'M GONNA GIVE YOU IS PORTLAND, OREGON HAS HAD A DECONSTRUCTION ORDINANCE SINCE 2016. AND NOW THAT THAT, THAT LUMBER, THAT REALLY AMAZING TIMBERS ENTERING INTO THE MARKETPLACE, THEY'RE WORKING WITH EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS TO CREATE NEW CROSS-LAMINATED TIMBER OUT OF RECLAIMED LUMBER. AND THEY'RE DOING IT IN A WAY THAT'S STRESS TESTED AND, AND WORKS AND CAN BE USED IN NEW CONSTRUCTION. SO THAT [02:55:01] IS A GOOD EXAMPLE. SO IS THIS GOING TO BE, BE A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM BY THE HOMEOWNER THAT'S HAVING THEIR PROPERTY DEMOLISHED THAT THEY'LL GIVE YOU PERMISSION TO DECONSTRUCT OR NOT? OR ARE YOU GOING TO AUTOMATICALLY DO IT FOR EVERY DEMOLITION? SO IT'S THOSE PARAMETERS THAT WE WALKED THROUGH IN, IN THE DIFFERENT PHASES. SO IF A STRUCTURE, FOR EXAMPLE, WAS BUILT IN 1920 AND IT WAS LOCATED IN THE NEAR WEST SIDE, THEN THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DECONSTRUCTED IF IT WAS APPROVED FOR REMOVAL. NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT. MM-HMM. YOU DIDN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION. MORE QUESTION, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER MM-HMM. , ARE YOU GONNA REQUIRE THAT THEY ALLOW YOU TO DECONSTRUCT THE PROPERTY OR NOT? YES. ALTHOUGH THE CITY WON'T BE DOING IT THEMSELVES. A CONTRACTOR WILL BE DOING IT. WE DON'T HAVE OUR OWN DECONSTRUCTION CREW. THE CITY, NO. YOU STILL DIDN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION. . SORRY. I GUESS I'M CONFUSED. UM, ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO GET PERMISSION FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER FIRST BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING? YES. AND MAY THEY SAY NO, YOU CANNOT KEEP ANY OF MY ITEMS, UH, TO MY HOUSE. YES. SO IT'S A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM. , I'M CONFUSED. , I'M, I'M SHANNON MILLER, THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION. THE DECONSTRUCTION ORDINANCE, IF IT'S APPROVED BY COUNCIL, WILL NOT BE VOLUNTARY. IF YOU FALL WITHIN THE PARAMETERS AND YOUR BUILDING IS BEING REMOVED, YOU'LL BE REQUIRED TO DECONSTRUCT IT INSTEAD OF MECHANICALLY DEMOLISH IT. WHETHER OR NOT YOU GIVE THE MATERIAL TO THE CITY'S INNOVATION CENTER OR YOU SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE IS UP TO THE PROPERTY OWNER. SO THEN YOU DON'T NEED THEIR PERMISSION. PERMISSION FOR WHAT? I MEAN, THEY'RE REQUESTING THE DEMOTION. IF THEY'RE ASKING FOR THAT WINDOW THAT WAS IN THERE, IF THAT, LISTEN TO ME, THAT WINDOW THAT WAS IN THEIR, UH, LIVING ROOM THAT HAS BEEN PASSED DOWN. 'CAUSE IT WAS FROM A PREVIOUS HOUSE. AND THEY WANT TO KEEP THAT WINDOW TO TAKE WITH THEM. 'CAUSE IT HAS SENTIMENTAL REASONS THEY CAN'T KEEP THAT WINDOW. OF COURSE THEY CAN. IT'S THEIR MATERIAL WHERE IT'S THEIR MATERIAL. THE WHAT THE ORDINANCE IS REQUIRING, YOU'RE ASKING TWO SEPARATE QUESTIONS. WHAT THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES. WHAT IS NOT VOLUNTARY IS DECONSTRUCTING A, A HOUSE THAT IS APPROVED FOR REMOVAL, IF IT FALLS WITHIN THE PARAMETERS IN THE ORDINANCE, WHAT THE PE PERSON DOES WITH THEIR PROPERTY. IF IT'S A PRIVATE DEMOLITION, WHAT THEY DO WITH THE MATERIAL THAT RESULTS FROM THE DECONSTRUCTION IS UP TO THEM. ONE OPTION IF THEY DON'T SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE OR DONATE IT TO HABITAT OR DO WHATEVER ELSE THEY WANNA DO WITH IT, AN OPTION BEFORE THEM IS TO DONATE IT TO THE CITY'S MATERIAL INNOVATION CENTER. SO YOU'RE GONNA FOCUS ON HDS AND NCDS ONLY? NO, IT'S BASED ON CONSTRUCTION DATE. UM, THERE, THERE'S A DIFFERENT CONSTRUCTION DATE IF IT'S IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT OR AN N C D. SO IN PHASE ONE AND TWO, UM, AS STEPH WALKED THROUGH, IF IT'S, IF THE HIGH, IF THE PROPERTY'S BUILT 19, 20 OR EARLIER AND IT'S SINGLE FAMILY FOUR UNITS OR LESS IN ANYWHERE IN THE CITY, IT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR DECONSTRUCTION. IF IT'S IN A N C D OR HISTORIC DISTRICT, THEN IT'S 1945 OR EARLIER. SO LARGER DAY RANGE. I JUST ASKED BECAUSE THE MAP SHOWED JUST THE NCDS AND THE HDS AND I THOUGHT YOU WERE JUST FOCUSING ON THOSE PRO IN THOSE AREAS. NO, I MEAN, NCDS AND HISTORIC DISTRICTS TEND TO BE IN THE OLDER AREAS OF THE CITY, AND THAT'S WHERE THESE, THIS IS MORE LIKELY TO FALL, BUT NOT EXCLUSIVELY. SO HOW MUCH DO YOU KNOW, HAVE YOU DONE THE NUMBER CRUNCHING TO, UH, TO LEARN HOW MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE DEMOS ARE GONNA COST WHEN YOU'RE PICKING ITEMS ASIDE AS OPPOSED TO JUST DEMOS? YEAH. FOR A SMALL, UH, SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE, IT'S TWO TO $3,000 ADDITIONAL MORE. BUT AS STEPH SAID, UM, THE, THE VALUE OF THE MATERIALS, UM, WILL OFFSET THAT COST. AND, AND ANOTHER THING THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DIDN'T GET INTO IN THE INTEREST OF TIME IS IN, IN THE VAST MAJORITY OF CASES, UM, AND WE HAVE ACTUAL NUMBERS THAT MAYBE STEPH CAN REMEMBER THE PERCENTAGES, BUT IN A SIGNIFICANT MAJORITY OF CASES WHERE A SINGLE FAMILY, SMALL, UM, HOUSE THAT WOULD FALL, THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE DECONSTRUCTION ORDINANCE IS COMING DOWN. IT'S EITHER BEING REPLACED WITH MULTIPLE UNITS. SO WHEN YOU DIVIDE THAT $3,000 OVER THE 10 UNITS THAT THE DEVELOPER IS BUILDING, IT'S A, IT'S PRETTY MINIMAL OR IT'S BEING REPLACED WITH A, A SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER VALUE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE. SO, UM, IT'S ALSO A WAY TO TRY TO OFFSET THE LOSS OF THOSE SMALLER, MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS. AND WHAT METRICS ARE YOU GOING TO USE TO DETERMINE THE SUCCESS OF THIS PROGRAM? UM, I MEAN, THERE WILL BE A LOT A, A LOT OF METRICS. UM, YEAH, BUT LIKE WHAT I, I MEAN, DO YOU WANNA RESPOND TO THAT? SURE. SO ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THIS IS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO TRACK SOME DATA INCLUDING, UM, HOW MUCH MATERIAL IS SALVAGED. SO WE'LL HAVE ACTUAL TONNAGE NUMBERS, WE'LL HAVE NUMBERS OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DIVERTED FROM THE LANDFILL, WHICH THE CURRENT, THE CITY CURRENTLY DOES NOT ACTIVELY TRACK. SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT INFORMATION NORMALLY BEING COLLECTED. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE DATA ON WORKFORCE IMPACT. WE'RE GONNA HAVE INFORMATION ON THE ECONOMIC IMPACT. UM, AND ALSO WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT DEPARTMENT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE GROWTH IS IN KIND OF THESE REUSE FOCUS INDUSTRIES AND TRADES. SO WE'LL BE TRACKING THAT. AND WHAT'S YOUR GOAL? [03:00:01] WE HAVE SO MANY GOALS. UM, YOU DON'T HAVE A GOAL, OH, WE HAVE ALL OF THE GOALS. NO NUMBER OF UNITS, NUMBER OF WHATEVER THAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED. WHAT ARE YOUR GOALS? SO I THINK JUST BASED ON OUR, YOU KNOW, METRIC GOALS, I MEANT, YEAH. SO FROM OUR ANALYSIS OF LEGACY DEMOLITION DATA, I THINK ONE OF OUR GOALS IS FOR THERE TO BE AT LEAST 50 DECONSTRUCTIONS A YEAR. UM, AND THEN IN TERMS OF LANDFILL DIVERSION, WE'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY UPWARDS OF 10 TONS OF LANDFILL DIVERSION ANNUALLY, UM, FROM THIS PROGRAM. SO WE EXPECT TO EXCEED THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. , LEMME ASK YOU THIS QUESTION. UH, YOU'RE SAYING, UH, THAT, UH, YOU GO MEET SOME GOALS FOR THIS DECONSTRUCTION PROGRAM. HOW MANY STAFF ARE YOU ASSIGNING TO IT? IT'S JUST ME. JUST YOU? MM-HMM. . OKAY. AND YOU'RE THE ONE THAT'S GETTING 150 A YEAR? . OKAY. I, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION. THIS ORDINANCE, UH, NOT AN ORDINANCE. ARE YOU, ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT? SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT AN ORDINANCE AND IF THEY VIOLATE THE ORDINANCE WITH YOUR AREA, D S D BE INVOLVED WITH IT, YOU SEE, BECAUSE YOU GOT MORE THAN ONE PEOPLE WORKING ON THIS AND THE LANDFILLS AND THE LIKES MM-HMM. . SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND EXACTLY YOUR QUESTION, BUT LET, LET, MY, MY QUESTION IS, WILL THIS ORDINANCE AFFECT D S D? YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY WITH CODE COMPLIANCE, BUT WITH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M NOT GOING TO, IT MIGHT SOUND LIKE I'M SAYING WHEN THEY COME TO PICK UP A PERMIT OR TRYING TO FIND A, SOMEBODY TO DECONSTRUCT. OKAY. WELL THERE, HOPEFULLY THE, THE CITY DOESN'T LEAD INTO IT TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE DO, WE CAN DO IT. I MEAN, HOPEFULLY, I, I DON'T THINK SO, BUT YOU KNOW, I'M ASKING HOW WILL IT AFFECT, DO YOU, HAVE YOU LOOKED INTO IT YET? UM, I KNOW YOU GOT MORE WORK THAN THIS TO DO. NO, NO. THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD QUESTION. SO, THE ONLY EFFECT THAT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WILL HAVE IS WE DO HAVE A CONTRACT WITH JR RAMON AS THE DEMO CONTRACTOR FOR US. RIGHT. LIKE ANY BUILDING THAT YOU GUYS ORDER FOR DEMOLITION, NORMALLY WE TURN IT OVER TO OUR CONTRACTOR. SO THE ONLY EFFECT HERE IS IF THAT STRUCTURE IS PRIOR TO THE DATES THEY MENTIONED, THE 1920 OR THE 1945, THEN WE GONNA REQUIRE J RAMON TO DECONSTRUCT THAT STRUCTURE VERSUS DEMOL DEMOLISH IT. SO IF WE GONNA PAY FOR IT, THE TWO OR $3,000 MORE, WE GONNA PAY FOR IT. BUT AS YOU KNOW, NORMALLY WE PAY FOR ANY ABATEMENT WE DO, AND THEN WE PUT LIEN ON THE PROPERTY. SO TECHNICALLY WILL COST US A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY AT THE TIME. UH, BUT THAT'S ABOUT IT. THERE IS NO OTHER EFFECT ON DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. UH, TO ANSWER FRED'S QUESTION ABOUT, IF THEY USE A WINDOW FROM A PREVIOUS HOUSE WHEN THEY DECONSTRUCTED AND PUT IT ON ON ANOTHER HOUSE, IT HAS TO MEET THE CODE. NOW WE HAVE THE INTERNATIONAL EXISTING BUILDING CODE, AND IT HAS A CHAPTER FOR HISTORIC. IT GIVES YOU SOME GUIDELINE. UH, SO IT'S NOT GONNA REQUIRE THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY, FOR EXAMPLE, BUT OBVIOUSLY WHEN THEY INSTALL IT HAS TO BE SEALED APPROPRIATELY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THE WINDOW IS TOTALLY FINE IF IT'S IN, IN GOOD CONDITION, OBVIOUSLY. SO AGAIN, IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T AFFECT US NEGATIVELY. UM, AT, AT THIS POINT, DOES IT AFFECT YOUR BUDGET? YES. HOW MUCH AND BY HOW MUCH, WHATEVER? SO AGAIN, THE, THE, THE GOAL HERE IS, UM, AS STEPHANIE MENTIONED, LIKE OVERALL, WE HAVE ABOUT 500 PERMITS THAT GO THROUGH THE CITY FOR DEMOLITION. AND I'M NOT SAYING WHAT YOU GUYS ORDER FOR DEMOLITION, LIKE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE YEAR, CALENDAR YEAR OR FISCAL YEAR, SORRY. IT'S ABOUT 500. THE GOAL IS TO HAVE ABOUT 50 OF THOSE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROGRAM. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE ESTIMATE. NOT ALL OF THOSE ARE BEING DEMOED BY THE CITY. SO WE DON'T PAY FOR ALL THOSE DEMOLITIONS. UM, WE MIGHT HAVE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 10 OF THOSE THAT WE'RE GONNA DO. SO TWO TO 3000, 10 OF THEM, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 20 TO 30,000 POTENTIALLY. AND SO THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE, OR STARTED IN 2017, I BELIEVE I SAW THE, THE, THE, YEAH. AND SO WAS CO HAVE YOU BEEN INVOLVED WITH, WITH THE PLANNING FROM THE INCEPTION? UH, D S D WAS INVOLVED THROUGHOUT THAT PROCESS? THE CO COMPLIANCE? YES. OKAY. LEMME ASK THIS TO LEGAL. SINCE WE ARE JUDICIAL AND OUR DECISIONS AREN'T MADE [03:05:02] ENTIRELY, IN FACT, I DON'T LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE TO THE DEGREE I DO THE CODES. SINCE WE ARE FOLLOWING INTERNATIONAL CODE US CODE, TEXAS CODE CITY CODE, WHEN WE WRITE AN ORDER AND IT SAYS DEMOLITION IN THE CODE, HOW IS IT POSSIBLE WHEN A COURT ORDER SAYS DEMOLITION AND YOU'RE CHANGING IT TO DECONSTRUCT, DECONSTRUCT HIS DEMOLITION? IT'S JUST SLOWER. THAT WAS TO COUNCIL . YEAH. ALL THE BOARD IS GOING TO CONTINUE AS IT'S BEEN DOING ORDER REPAIR OR DEMOLITION. AND FOR THOSE PROPERTIES THAT, UH, THE OWNER DOES NOT, UH, DEMOLISH, THEN THE CITY WILL DO, OR CODE ENFORCEMENT WILL DO WHAT IT DOES AND, UH, DEMOLISH. BUT, UH, ONCE THIS ORDINANCE IS PASSED, THEN FOR PROPERTIES FALLING WITHIN, UH, THOSE SPECIFIC CATEGORIES, UH, JR RAMON, WHO DOES THE CITY EXECUTED DEMOLITIONS, MUST COMPLY WITH, UH, DECONSTRUCTION RATHER THAN MECHANICAL DEMOLITION. BUT IS THAT, OH, IS THAT CONTROVERSIAL OR DOES THAT NOT CONFLICT WITH A CODE? A CODE IS MORE ENFORCEABLE THAN AN ORDINANCE. CORRECT. IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CITY CODES, THOSE ARE ALL CODIFIED ORDINANCES. AND SO, UH, WHEN THIS ORDINANCE IS PASSED, IT WILL THEN BECOME CODIFIED, I BELIEVE IN CHAPTER 12 OF THE CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES. A CODE COMES FROM THAT'S LIKE THIS ONE. AND YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT'S AN ORDINANCE WHEN, UH, THAT THE I P M C, THOSE ARE INTERNATIONAL STANDARDS. UH, SO THE CITY CODES, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, THE SAMHSA OR, UH, UH, CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, THOSE ARE ALL CITY CODES START OFF BY, UH, ORDINANCE. SO THE CITY WITH THE INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, THE FIRE CODE, UH, BUILDING CODE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. UH, THE CITY BY ORDINANCE HAS ADOPTED THOSE CODES. THE STATE OF TEXAS ADOPTED THEM. CORRECT. AND THE CITY FOLLOWS, LET ME JUMP IN. SAVITA, UH, NOT NECESSARILY FRED. UH, THERE ARE CERTAIN CODES THAT THE STATE ADOPTS, BUT EVERY CITY HAS THE RIGHT TO ADOPT EITHER NORMALLY THE MORE RECENT CODES. UH, THEREFORE WE CANNOT ENFORCE ANY CODE UNLESS THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR ADOPTED THAT AND APPROVED IT THROUGH AN ORDINANCE. SO THAT'S ANY CODE. SO ANY CODE WE HAVE TODAY, INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE, FIRE CODE, RESIDENTIAL CODE, PLUMBING, MECHANICAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE, ALL THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL UNDER AN ORDINANCE EV EVERY SEVERAL YEARS THEY GO THROUGH THAT. LIKE WE JUST WENT THROUGH THE PROPERTY STUFF. RIGHT. AND THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. BUT WE'RE NOT FOLLOWING A CITY ORDINANCE. WE ARE FOLLOWING THE I B C INTERNATIONAL BUILDER CODE. THIS AMERICAN CODE FOLLOWS THAT. TEXAS FOLLOWS THAT, AND IT'S MODIFIED ALL THE WAY DOWN TO US WHERE WE FOLLOW THE SAME THING. IN FACT, WE JUST DID IT A FEW WEEKS AGO, UPDATED OUR CODES. CODES, ONCE YOU PUT 'EM IN PLAY, HAVE MORE IMPACT LEGALLY. I KNOW YOU GET 'EM FROM THE ORDINANCE SIDE, BUT WHEN YOU'RE GOING IN ORDINANCE AND CODE, A CODE IS MORE ENFORCEABLE IN LAW THAN IN ORDINANCE. WOULD THAT BE ACCURATE? I, NO, I DON'T, SORRY, I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY. LET'S KIND OF ANSWER THAT. BUT I CANNOT ENFORCE A CODE UNLESS IT WAS APPROVED IN AN ORDINANCE. SO IF YOU GIVE ME A CODE TODAY, AND IT'S NOT APPROVED BY ORDINANCE IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, I CANNOT ENFORCE THAT CODE REGARDLESS OF IF IT CAME FROM THE STATE OR WHOEVER YOU ARE SAYING IT CAME FROM. OKAY. SO WHEN YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THE CITY HASN'T APPROVED THIS YET, APPROVES THIS, NOW YOU'RE TYING THE CITY AS WE WERE ALREADY ACCUSED BEFORE, WHEN THAT MEETING WAS IN FRONT OF THE CITY COUNCIL THAT WE'RE DEMOLITION HOMES FOR PROFIT, THE CITY'S GETTING BEHIND A PROFIT MAKING ORGANIZATION USING THE CITY TO DO IT THROUGH THE D S D, WHICH MAKES US, WHEN WE PUT OUT THAT ORDER LOOKING [03:10:01] LIKE WE ARE FACILITATING THE DESTRUCTION OF HOMES FOR PROFIT COULD BE THERE. THERE'S, THERE'S NO PROFIT. WE'RE NOT SELLING THE MATERIALS. THERE'S NO PROFIT. WE'RE JUST KEEPING THE MATERIAL PERFECTLY GOOD. HIGH QUALITY OLD GROWTH WOOD AND OTHER REUSABLE MATERIALS FROM GOING TO THE LANDFILL. SAVING, SAVING PLAN. SO WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AMONG OTHER THINGS YES. TRYING TO HELP THE PLANET MATERIALS. ARE WE JUST TALKING WOOD? IS THAT ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM THAT'S IN THE HOME. ARE YOU TRYING TO RE RE REUSE THAT AS WELL? WE, THAT'S WHY I'M, I DON'T KNOW. I COULDN'T TELL FROM THE PICTURES WHETHER YOU WERE USING IT. DIDN'T ALL YOU FIGURE, YOU CANNOT TALK ABOUT ELECTRICAL WIRE ONCE YOU PULL IT OUT OF A HOUSE. YOU CANNOT USE ANY MATERIALS FOR THE PURPOSE OF RE LIKE PLUMBING WIRE FIXTURES THAT ARE CANNOT BE REUSED. AND I SEE THIS IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM THAT EVERYBODY'S GONNA START REUSING STUFF EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT MEANT FOR THAT. AND WE'RE PUTTING AS THIS DOCUMENT SAYS OUR NAME ON STUFF THAT WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A, A PART IN. OKAY. SO, SO LET ME, LET ME, LET ME CLARIFY. SO THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU'RE UPSET ABOUT IS A TITLE SLIDE ON A PRESENTATION THAT SAYS THAT STEPH WAS MAKING A PRESENTATION TO THIS BOARD. IT'S NOT SAYING IT'S COMING FROM YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT. NOBODY'S SAYING THAT THE DOCUMENT I'M LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY IS BRIEFING YOU. I UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A ONE-ON-ONE MEETING TO TALK IN MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE THE ORDINANCE, WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. YOU CAN READ, BUT WHEN PEOPLE SEE THIS IN THE PUBLIC, THE ACTUAL, THAT'S WHAT THEY LOOK AT ACTUAL, THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE WILL GO TO COUNCIL. AND THERE IS A DRAFT AVAILABLE IF YOU'D LIKE TO READ IT. WE WOULD LOVE TO MEET WITH YOU AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT. MORE CHAIR AND I, LEGAL, THIS IS LEGAL. LET, HOLD ON. ALLOW ME, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU, THIS PROP, IF THIS BOARD ORDERS A DEMOLITION, THEY CAN ORDER A DEMOLITION IF THEY BELIEVE THAT PROPERTY IS, IS NOT SALVAGEABLE. HOW THAT DEMOLITION OR DECONSTRUCTION OF THAT PROPERTY IS WHAT O H P IS PROVIDING TO YOU? UM, AND I THINK IT'S MORE INFORMATIVE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO, AND SAVITA CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO AFFECT HOW THIS BOARD MAKES A DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER A PROPERTY RIGHT, THAT IS CONSIDERED AND BROUGHT BEFORE YOU IS A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE. HOW THAT PROPERTY IS ABATED. UM, ONCE THIS BOARD DETERMINES HOW IT'S ABATED, UM, UH, THAT DEMOLITION OR THE, THE BRINGING DOWN OF THAT HOUSE OR ABATING THAT HOUSE WILL BE DONE BASED ON WHAT THE LAW IS AND BASED ON THAT. AND THAT'S HOW, UH, THE CITY WILL HANDLE IT. UM, AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL REQUIRE CITIZENS TO DO THE SAME WITH THE POSSIBLE CLARIFY ISSUE. UH, JUST TO CLAR, UH, JUST TO CLARIFY, UH, YOUR STANDARD IN DETERMINING WHETHER TO ISSUE A REPAIR OR DEMO IS WHETHER IT IS FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED IN LIE, UH, IN LIGHT OF ALL THE CIRCUMSTANCES, THE TOTALITY OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES PRESENTED BEFORE YOU, UH, IT'S NOT, UH, SALVAGEABLE. UH, WE DON'T GO BY THAT. UH, IS IT FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED? AND THEN THIS BOARD'S JOB DOES NOT CHANGE. IT'S EITHER YOU ORDER, REPAIR, DEMO, RESET, VACATE, WHAT HAVE YOU. MM-HMM. , THERE IS NOTHING IN THE LAW STATUTORY, UH, CITY, UH, LOCAL, UH, STATE OR ANY FEDERAL LAWS THAT PROHIBIT THE ABATEMENT OF A PUBLIC NUISANCE BY AN ALTERNATIVE MEANS TO MECHANICAL DEMOLITION. SO THERE ARE NO, UH, LAWS OUT THERE PREVENTING THE CITY IN DETERMINING HOW THAT ABATEMENT IS GOING TO OCCUR. THE BOARD'S JOB STOPS AT, UH, IF YOU DETERMINE IT IS NOT FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED IN LIGHT OF THE TOTALITY OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES, YOU ISSUE DEMOLITION. AND THAT'S WHERE YOUR ORDER ENDS. YOUR ORDER WILL BE FOLLOWED. THE MEANS BY WHICH THAT ABATEMENT IS GOING TO OCCUR, THAT IS GOING TO BE HANDLED BY THE CITY, UH, IN TERMS OF IF THAT PROPERTY FALLS WITHIN THOSE SPECIFIC CATEGORIES. SO, UH, THERE, THERE ARE NO CODES OR STATUTES OR FEDERAL RULES [03:15:01] AND REGULATIONS PROHIBITING THE MANNER OF THE ABATEMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING OVER. THE CHAIR WILL SPEAK. NOW I HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY. AND I'M SORRY, I MEAN, TO PUT YOU IN THAT CROSS, BUT WE, I THE CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO, I'VE LEARNED A LOT. I LEARNED A LOT FROM YOU WHEN T S D JESSE THE CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND, UH, I GOT A . OKAY. CASE IN POINT. GO AHEAD. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. , SINCE YOU ARE, AND THIS IS ADDRESSED TO YOU TWO, SHANNON, SINCE, UH, STEPHANIE IS A, A, UH, UM, COMMUNITY OF ONE, YOU KNOW, DOING THIS PROGRAM BY HERSELF, I HAVE A SUGGESTION AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN BE GUIDED BY IT OR NOT, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WHO DON'T GO TO COLLEGE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY OR THE MEANS OR THE OPPORTUNITY. SO, BUT THEY CAN USE THIS PROGRAM. YOU KNOW, YOU GO AROUND TO SOME OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS ON THE WEST SIDE AND THE EAST SIDE WHERE THE, UH, GENTRIFICATION IS GOING ON AND WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESSIBILITY TO MONEY OR GOOD JOBS, BUT THEY COULD COME AND WORK WITH YOU AND LEARN THIS AND THEN THEY COULD PICK UP A TRADE. NO, IT'S, IT'S A, IT IS AN EXCELLENT IDEA. AND, UM, AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE WORKING ON. WE HAVE THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAS ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT IS CALLED THE LIVING HERITAGE TRADES ACADEMY. AND, UM, PEOPLE CAN, THROUGH THAT PROGRAM, IT'S, IT'S WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. AND SO THEY DO ONE WEEK OF TRAINING, UM, AND SKILLED PRES TRADES, MOSTLY CARPENTRY, BUT SO FAR, UM, WINDOW RESTORATION, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEN THEY GET A 10 WEEK PAID APPRENTICESHIP, UM, THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS WITH WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AGENCIES. AND DECONSTRUCTION IS ONE OF THE OPTIONS IN THE LIVING HERITAGE TRADES ACADEMY. AND SO LATER THIS FALL, WE WILL BE HOSTING, UH, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT TRAINING FOR DECONSTRUCTION CONTRACTORS. WELL WORK FOR, WHEN I THINK OF WORKFORCE, I THINK OF ADULTS. I DON'T THINK, OH, NO. UH, IN FACT, A LOT OF THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT FUNDING IS FOCUSED ON THE, ON THE DEMOGRAPHIC YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO EITHER DROPPED OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL OR, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE FINISHED BUT DIDN'T GO TO COLLEGE AND ARE SORT OF IN BETWEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO IT THAT 18 TO 24 RANGE IS YEAH. WHERE A LOT OF THE FUNDING IS FOCUSED. AND SO, UM, IT'S A GREAT IDEA AND IT IS SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING ON BUILDING. YEAH. AND IT, AND IT WOULD TAKE THEM OFF THE STREET FROM SELLING DRUGS OR TRYING TO EXACTLY. YOU KNOW, PROFIT FROM, FROM SOMETHING THAT'S ILLEGAL AND IT WOULD GIVE THEM OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY LEARN A TRADE. YES. SO THAT'S ALL I HAD. ALRIGHT. JESSE , I THINK YOU HAVE A PROGRAM AT PALO ALTO ALSO THAT'S IN THAT SAME LINE? YES. YES IT IS. AND UH, TEXAS TECH DOES A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF THE CONSTRUCTION TRADES AND, AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND OH, THAT'S GREAT. THINGS LIKE THAT TOO. OH, GOOD. WELL, THANK YOU. YEAH, WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT TOO, AS, AS WELL. YEAH. THANK YOU. OKAY. YOU'RE GONNA NEED YOUR OWN BOARD. CAN YOU TELL ? YEAH, EXACTLY. . WELL, THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NOW STEPHANIE, YOU HAVE TO COME AND THANK ME ONE DAY FOR GIVING YOU HELP. OKAY. . OKAY, MOVING ON. NOW THAT WE ALL KNOW HOW TO DECONSTRUCT THE HOUSE, WE HAVE ANOTHER CASE. HOW ABOUT THAT? OKAY, WE ARE GOING TO DO MANAGER CHAIR. YES. YES. STILL? YES. OKAY. WE'LL SEE YOU LATER. WE HAVE ONE OF OUR MEMBERS LEAVING. UH, HE HAS A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT. YEAH, WE STILL HAVE QUORUM. OKAY. WE HAVE, UH, 80, UH, WHAT IS THIS? Y'ALL KNOW, I CAN'T SEE TODAY. UM, OH, DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE. OH, WELL I THOUGHT THIS WAS A PROPERTY MAINTENANCE. SPEAKING OF MICROPHONE, PLEASE. HMM. SPEAKING OF THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE. OH, I'M SORRY. UM, ARE WE DOING KELLY 1 79 KELLY DRIVE? IS THAT A REPAIR? NO, IT'S MAINTENANCE CODE. IT'S A REPAIR. IT'S A YES. MAINTENANCE FORM. YES. OKAY. IT DEMOLITION. IT'S A SAMHSA CASE. IGNORED THE, UH, DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE. TITLE, FIRST CASE FOR DECONSTRUCTION RIGHT HERE. . OKAY. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD, . GOOD AFTERNOON, BOARD MEMBERS. GOOD AFTERNOON. FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME'S ANNETTE LOPEZ, CODE ENFORCEMENT SUPERVISOR FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. THE PROPERTY BEING PRESENTED TODAY IS LOCATED AT 1 79 KELLY FOR VIOLATIONS UNDER THE SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE SECTION 3 0 4 [03:20:01] 0.6. EXTERIOR WALLS. ALL EXTERIOR WALLS SHALL BE FREE FROM HOSE BREAKS, LOOSE OR ROTTED MATERIALS, AND MAINTAIN WEATHERPROOF AND PROPERLY SURFACE COATED WHERE REQUIRED TO PREVENT DETERIORATION. SECTIONS 3 0 4 POINT 13.1 GLAZING. ALL GLAZING MATERIAL SHALL BE MAINTAINED IN GOOD IN SOUND CONDITION AND GOOD REPAIR. 5 0 5 0.1. GENERAL, EVERY SINK, LAVATORY, BATHTUB, OR SHOWER, DRINKING FOUNTAIN, TOILET, OR OTHER PLUMBING FIXTURES SHALL BE PROPERLY CONNECTED TO EITHER A PUBLIC WATER SYSTEM OR TO AN IMPROVED PRIVATE WATER SYSTEM. SECTION 6 0 4 0.1 FACILITIES REQUIRED EVERY OCCUPIED BUILDING SHALL BE PROVIDED WITH AN ELECTRICAL SYSTEM IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS SECTION AND SECTION 6 0 5. I ASK THE BOARD FOR ALL CASES TO BE HEARD SIMULTANEOUSLY AND CONCURRENTLY SINCE THE CASE AND SINCE THE INSPECTIONS AND NOTICES WERE GIVEN AT THE SAME TIME. THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS N C B 7 6 7 4 BLOCK D LOT E OF 40, SOUTH OF ONE 50 D P T OF T R THREE A R A R B D DASH THREE LOCATED IN COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE. THE OWNER ON RECORD IS ALVARADO FAMILY LIVING TRUST. MAILING ADDRESS IS 1 79 KELLY SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 1 4. THE PHOTOS, SO THE FIRST INSPECTION WAS CONDUCTED ON JUNE 29TH, 2022. UH, WE FOUND THE PROPERTY TO HAVE NO WATER SERVICE, NO ELECTRICAL SERVICE, UH, DETERIORATED, DETERIORATED SIGHTING. THIS, UH, WAS A COUNCIL DRIVEN COMPLAINT AND ALSO A CONCERN TO THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OF MISSION SAN JOSE. THIS IS JUST A FRONT VIEW OF, UH, THE STRUCTURE WHERE WE DID POST THE NOTICE AND YOU CAN SEE THE DETERIORATION SIDING. THIS IS A CONTEXTUAL VIEW OF THE OVERALL STRUCTURE. THIS IS THE LEFT SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE. AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE DETERIORATION TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SIDING AND THE BROKEN WINDOWS. ANOTHER AREA OF DETERIORATION AND DAMAGE WINDOWS, NO WATER SERVICE, AND THIS IS A VIEW OF THE METER AND IT'S BEEN RED TAGGED AS WELL. UH, WE DID HAVE, UH, THE HOMELESS OUTREACH MAKE LOCATION ON JUNE 30TH, 2022. JUST LITTLE HISTORY ON THIS PROPERTY. UH, IT IS AN OCCUPIED PROPERTY BY AN OCCUPANT OF THE DECEASED OWNER. UH, HE HAD BEEN STAYING THERE WITH NO WATER AND ELECTRICITY. HOWEVER, IN ONE OF OUR OTHER PROBLEM PROPERTIES, UH, DUE TO HOMELESS, THEY STARTED TO STAY ON THIS PROPERTY. SO HE WAS ALLOWING THE HOMELESS TO STAY AND IT JUST KIND OF ESCALATED. SO THAT'S WHY WE EXPEDITED THE CASE TO, TO THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD. AND THIS IS A REINSPECTION ON JULY 20TH. UH, YOU COULD SEE THAT THEY ARE, UH, TAMPERING WITH THE WATER METER USING THE HOSE, UH, DIRECTLY CONNECTED TO THE METER, AND THAT HAS BEEN REPORTED TO SAWS. UH, WE'VE MADE SEVERAL, UH, RE-INSPECTIONS ON THAT PROPERTY AS WELL TO GET THE PROPERTY CLEANED UP. UM, AN ORDER TO VACATE WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY ON AUGUST 8TH, 2022. AND AGAIN, JUST MORE DETERIORATION TO THE SIDING. AND YOU COULD SEE HERE THE CONNECTION OF THE WATER HOSE TO THE METER. AND WE'VE ADDRESSED, UM, OTHER CODE VIOLATIONS AS FRONT YARD PARKING AND OUTDOOR PLACEMENT AS WELL. AT THIS PROPERTY, THE ORDER TO VACATE THAT WAS POSTED STAFF RECOMMENDS THE REPAIRS TO BE MADE TO THE BROKEN WINDOWS, DETERIORATED SIDING, THE WATER SERVICE AND ELECTRICAL SERVICE TO BE RESTORED, AND ALSO TO ENFORCE THE ORDER TO VACATE. THAT WAS POSTED ON AUGUST 8TH, 2022. [03:25:01] THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION FOR 1 79. KELLY, I I GOT A QUESTION. MR. FRED ANDIS ON YOUR LAST PICTURE HERE. WHEN YOU SAY SIDING, ARE YOU ALSO INCLUDING THE PORCH RIGHT THERE AT THE TOP OF THE ROD IS ON THE FACIAL, UH, PORCH. THE BOTTOM? NO, RIGHT ON THE TOP. THE, THE FASCIA BOARD. OH, IF YOU LOOK RIGHT THERE BY THE WINDOW? YES. HERE BY THE TOP OF THE WINDOW. YES. OKAY. EXTE, IT'S, UH, EXTERIOR WALLS. OKAY. WELL, WALLS ARE DIFFERENT FROM THE FASCIA. YES. RIGHT? MM-HMM. ALSO, I NOTICED THE GAS METER. HAVE YOU PUT IN ANYTHING TO REMOVE THE GAS OR CUT THE GAS OFF THE GAS? IF YOU LOOKED TO THE LEFT OF THAT PITCHER, YOU'LL SEE THE GAS METER. UH, NO, SIR, NOT YET, BUT I CAN REQUEST THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. UH, YOU SAID THE HOUSE WAS OCCUPIED? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. DO YOU KNOW IF THEY WORK AND HAVE THE MONEY TO REPAIR THE, MAKE THESE REPAIRS OR NOT? I BELIEVE NOT, NO. HAVE YOU TALKED TO HIM? WE, UH, THE CODE OFFICER MAKING THE INSPECTION HAS MADE CONTACT. UH, BUT I BELIEVE IT, IT'S, HE ENDED UP LIKE A SQUATTER, BUT HE WAS THE BROTHER OF THE DECEASED OWNER THAT'S JUST LIVING ON THE PROPERTY WITHOUT PROPER MEANS OF WATER AND ELECTRICITY. AND YOU REALLY THINK HE'S GONNA FIX THIS HOUSE? NO. NO. I DON'T EITHER. BUT IT'S IN A LIVING TRUST. SO I THINK THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE INVOLVED IN NOT JUST HIM BEING THE NEXT OF KIN. DID ANYBODY, DID ANYBODY COME IN TO SPEAK ON THIS PROPERTY? YES. OH, OKAY. GREAT. OKAY. THIS IS ROBERT TAPPY. SO WE'RE, UH, RESTORING THE WATER SERVICE AND ELECTRICAL SERVICE FOR THE SQUATTERS. WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THE OWNER NOT, WHICH IS NOT THE OCCUPANT, 'CAUSE HE'S JUST LIVING AT THE PROPERTY. IT, IT, THE BEXAR COUNTY APPRAISAL HAS IT AS A LIVING TRUST. UH, SO WHOMEVER IS, YOU KNOW, TAKING OWNERSHIP OF THAT TRUST WE'RE REQUESTING FOR THE WATER AND ELECTRICAL TO BE RESTORED IF IT REMAINS OCCUPIED. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. WHY ARE YOU REQUESTING THE WATER AND THE ELECTRICITY? 'CAUSE IT'S A LIVING TRUST. NO, BECAUSE IT'S OCCUPIED BY IN THE PROPERTY. WELL, YEAH, BUT IT'S, UH, ISN'T IT ON THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER WHO, WHO WOULD PROBABLY BE HIM TO, TO PAY THE, PAY THE DAMN BILL. I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE REQUESTING THE WATER AND THE ELECTRIC BE RECONNECTED AND HE'S NOT PAYING THE BILL SINCE THE PROPERTY IS OCCUPIED. MM-HMM. , OUR, OUR CODE STATES, IF A PROPERTY IS OCCUPIED, THEY NEED TO HAVE ACTIVE WATER AND ELECTRICITY. WELL THEN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IN OUR ORDER WE CAN PUT, UM, EVICTION. I, I, I JUST, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS FRED ANDERSON, DO YOU NOT ALREADY HAVE, AND IT'S POSTED AN ORDER TO VACATE. SO THAT KIND OF CONFLICTS WITH AN ORDER TO VACATE. IF YOU'RE ASKING US TO RESTORE WATER AND ELECTRIC, WELL, I, I COULD, I COULD AMEND MY, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO RESTORE THE WATER AND THE C P S SERVICES IF IT REMAINS OCCUPIED. IF IT DOES NOT, THEN WE JUST ASK THAT IT BE VACATED AND SECURED AND ALSO BOARD. THIS IS JENNY RAMIREZ. I BELIEVE HER RECOMMENDATION WAS CORRECT, BECAUSE WHAT WE WOULD WANT IT ALSO ON THE FLIP SIDE TO BE VACANT UNTIL THE SERVICES ARE RESTORED. SO I, THAT'S KIND OF THE STANDARD THAT WE USUALLY PROCESS THESE, IF THE SERVICES ARE RESTORED, THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE ISSUE AND IT COULD BE REOCCUPIED. BUT UNTIL THOSE SERVICES ARE RESTORED AND THE WOOD IS REPAIRED, AND WELL, THE, THE DETERIORATIVE THAT BE DONE AFTER THE WATER AND ELECTRIC ARE RESTORED. YES. YES, SIR. CORRECT. LET'S HEAR FROM THE NEXT PARTY. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU ARE WELCOME. WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE SOMEWHERE. OKAY. UM, JAN HENRY. JAN HENRY OR THE BLANCA WILKINS. ARE YOU BLANCA? GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS BLANCA WILKINS AND I RESIDE AT 2 31 KELLY DRIVE, WHICH IS A COUPLE OF HOUSES DOWN FROM THIS EYESORE. AND I JUST COME TO YOU TODAY ASKING YOU TO GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH WITH WHATEVER CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS PRESENT IN FRONT OF YOU. UM, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT I AM, UH, A RECIPIENT OF UNDER ONE ROOF PROGRAM THROUGH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. AND I AM SO THANKFUL FOR THAT BECAUSE I'M INVESTED IN THIS [03:30:01] COMMUNITY. I'M INVESTED IN SAN JOSE MISSION NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I WANT YOU TO BE INVESTED IN IT AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY SPENT $80,000 ON MY HOME SO THAT I COULD LIVE IN IT. AND THESE PEOPLE AT 1 79 KELLY DRIVE COULD HAVE HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY AS WELL. THERE ARE PROGRAMS OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE LIKE US THAT CAN'T BENEFIT AND KEEP UP WITH THEIR HOMES. SO BY THEM DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING, IT JUST MAKES DEPLORABLE CONDITIONS FOR THE REST OF US. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF, UH, HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE. I SIT ON MY PORCH AT FIVE IN THE MORNING DRINKING MY COFFEE, AND I CAN SEE 'EM BACK AND FORTH, BRINGING BIKE PARTS WHEREVER THEY'RE GETTING THEM FROM. NEEDS TO STOP. WE ARE NOT ABOUT THAT. AND I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO GO AHEAD AND GO WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AND BOARDING IT UP, UH, FIXING IT IF THEY CAN, OR APPLYING FOR THE UNDER ONE ROOF PROGRAM, BECAUSE THOSE PROGRAMS ARE OUT THERE AND THEY CAN TAKE CARE OF IT. I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. WE AGREE THAT YOU KNOW THAT THESE PROGRAMS ARE WORTHWHILE, BUT YOU HAVE TO APPLY FOR 'EM. EXACTLY. WE DON'T KNOW IF THIS PERSON IS EXACTLY, AND THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING, ABLE TO DO IT SO WELL, WE DON'T KNOW. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ROBERT? TAP. YOU SAY YOU'RE INVESTED IN IT, CAN YOU HELP THEM? I WOULD LOVE TO, BUT LIKE I SAID, I APPLIED FOR THE UNDER ONE ROOF PROGRAM AND I COULD NOT AFFORD $80,000 IN REPAIRS FOR MY HOME. AND THAT'S WHY I QUALIFIED FOR THIS PROGRAM. AND SO THEREFORE, I AM LIVING THERE BECAUSE OF THAT. I WASN'T GONNA GIVE UP ON MY HOME AND I WASN'T GONNA TURN OFF THE SERVICES. I WAS GONNA LIVE THE WAY I WAS. AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, I LIVED SIX MONTHS WITHOUT ANY RUNNING HOT WATER. I HAD HOT WATER COMING INTO MY PLACE, BUT THE HOT WATER PIPE BROKE INSIDE THE CONCRETE. SO I HAD TO BOIL WATER TO TAKE A BATH. I HAD TO BOIL WATER TO DO MY DISHES, BUT I MADE IT TO THIS PROGRAM THAT AFFORDED ME TO STAY IN IT. MADAM CHAIR? UH, YES, SIR. POINT OF ORDER MICROPHONE. I'M SORRY. POINT OF ORDER. GO BACK TO OUR CHARGE HERE. THANK YOU. POINT OF ORDER TO WHAT MATTER. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM. UM, THE, THE NEXT PERSON IS JAN JANE HENRY. HENRY JANE HENRY. IS IT? I'M SORRY, WHAT IS IT? HELLO, MY NAME IS JANE HENRY. OH, JANE. OKAY. I'M SORRY. JANE AND E. JAN. OKAY. JANE HENRY, I WANNA CALL YOU JAN. NO. YES. UM, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME IS JANE HENRY. I'M ON THE BOARD OF THE MISSION SAN JOSE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I LIVE, UH, JUST A FEW BLOCKS NORTH OF THIS HOUSE. MICROPHONE, I MEAN SOUTH TO THE SOUTH. SPEAKING TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE. OH, OKAY. I'LL START OVER. MY NAME IS JANE HENRY. UH, I'M A BOARD MEMBER OF THE MISSION SAN JOSE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND I LIVE A FEW BLOCKS SOUTH OF THIS HOUSE ON KELLY. AND, UM, I AM HERE. MY NEIGHBOR IS HERE. YOU WILL NOTE THAT THE OWNER IS NOT HERE. THERE IS NO ONE PRESENT FROM THE, UM, ALVARO TRUST. UH, THERE IS ALSO THE ALLEGED NEW OWNER IS NOT HERE. WE JUST RECEIVED FROM THE NEW OWNER, UM, A, A, A TITLE. WHAT IS THIS? UM, PURCHASE SALE. IT IS, UH, SOMETHING FROM THE TITLE COMPANY SHOWING THAT HE BOUGHT THIS HOUSE LAST WEEK, THE BAIT AND SWITCH THING AGAIN. UM, SO THE NEW OWNER IS A MAN NAMED ARTURO. AND, UM, NEITHER OF THOSE ALLEGED OWNERS ARE HERE. THE HOUSE, YOU'VE SEEN WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. UM, I DID HEAR SOME TIME AGO THAT, UM, ONE OF THE SQUATTERS THERE HAD PERMISSION OF THE OWNER, THE, UH, THE TRUST TO STAY THERE IN THIS HOUSE WITH NO UTILITY SERVICE. AND, UM, I CAN'T TELL YOU REALLY MUCH ABOUT THE OWNERS OF THE HOME, BUT I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT THE OCCUPANTS. UM, THE OCCUPANTS, UM, WHO WERE THERE, WHO SEEMED TO HAVE DISPERSED RECENTLY. UM, THERE WAS A VACANT BUILDING AT 30 35 ROOSEVELT, UM, THAT HAS BEEN VACANT FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. AND, UH, THIS, UM, CODE ENFORCEMENT AND DANGER PREMISES OFFICERS FINALLY WERE ABLE TO GET, UM, UH, TO SECURE THE STRUCTURE. THE OWNER DID NOTHING, SECURE THE STRUCTURE AND, UH, VACATE THE PREMISES. WELL, THOSE PEOPLE JUST SIMPLY MOVED DOWN THE STREET, ONE HALF A BLOCK [03:35:01] TO THE NORTH FROM, UH, UP DAGLEY STREET, WHICH TEES INTO, UH, KELLY STREET TO THAT HOUSE, THAT UNSECURED, UH, VACANT HOUSE. SO THEY MOVED THERE. AND THE WHITE VAN THAT WAS PARKED AT 30 35 ROOSEVELT, WELL ACTUALLY ON THE DAGLEY SIDE OF THE BUILDING, UM, WAS A MAN WHO WAS, UH, DEALING BICYCLE PARTS AND REPAIRS OUT OF HIS TRUCK EVERY DAY. AND WE CAUGHT, THEY EVEN PUT UP A SIGN AT ONE POINT ON 35, 30 35 ROOSEVELT IN THE BACK PART ON DAGLEY BIKE REPAIR, . SO ALL THE NEIGHBORS CALLED THE, THE COUNCIL OFFICE, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT, THE POLICE, EVERYTHING. THEY CAN'T OPERATE A BUSINESS THERE. SO THE MAN IN THE WHITE VAN AT SOME POINT, UM, JUST MOVED STRAIGHT UP THE STREET TO 1 79 KELLY. AND HE, THAT THE WHITE VAN THAT YOU SAW IN THE, I THINK IT WAS THE SECOND OR THIRD PICTURE HERE, THAT'S HIS WHITE VAN, THAT HE WOULD JUST PARK ON THE, ON THE LAWN SO THAT OTHER VANS COULD COME UP INTO THE DRIVEWAY, OPEN THEIR DOORS, HE'D OPEN HIS DOORS, AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, TAKING MASSES OF BICYCLE FRAMES FROM THE BROWN VAN AND PUTTING 'EM IN THE WHITE VAN. AND EVERY DAY, EVERY NIGHT YOU CAN SEE THE CYCLISTS COME UP AND DOING ALL KINDS OF DEALS WITH THESE GUYS. AND THERE'S LOTS OF OTHER PEOPLE LIVING AT THE HOUSE. I DON'T KNOW, UH, HOW MANY THAT THEY COME AND GO. AND YOU CAN BE SURE THAT IT BOTH ADDRESSES. THERE WAS DRUGS AND PROSTITUTION GOING ON. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THAT MAN IS A, IF ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE RELATIVES OF EITHER OF THE OWNERS, WE DON'T WANT THEM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN'T, WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANNA TURN ON CITY SERVICES, UTILITY SERVICES, UH, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THESE PEOPLE. SO I'M ALL FOR BOARDING IT UP AND MAYBE IT'S A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR THE DECONSTRUCTION PROGRAM. I DUNNO. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THIS IS FEREZ. CAN THE COUNCIL, I MEAN, I'M SORRY, THE CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICER COME BACK UP. I WAS READING IN THE NOTES YOU HANDED, OR, OR THE OFFICER HANDED A PACKET, A REFERRAL GUIDE, CORRECT. TO THE OCCUPANT. DID THEY, DID THE PERSON THAT WAS HANDED TO YOU GIVE ANY INDICATION THEY WERE GOING TO LOOK INTO ANY OF THAT? NO, SIR. SO IT WAS GIVEN TO 'EM AND THEY DIDN'T ACT ON IT. CORRECT. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. , YOU READY FOR A MOTION? I'M READY. OKAY. IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, CAN WE HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS DWAYNE NELSON. YAY. I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 79 KELLEN DRIVE WAS IN VIOLATION OF SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODES 3 0 4 6 3 0 4 3 6 0 4, AND THAT THE PROPERTY CONTINUES TO BE IN VIOLATION OF THOSE CODES AND THAT THE PROPERTY SHOULD BE VACATED UNTIL UTILITIES ARE RESTORED AND REPAIRS COMPLETED IN 30 DAYS, AND THAT THE BUILDING BE SECURED DURING THIS TIME PERIOD. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR, UM, A VACATE ORDER AND TO RECONNECT, UH, UTILITIES AND, UM, UNDER 3 0 3 OH, UH, 4.6 MM-HMM. 3 0 1, I'M SORRY. 3 0 4 0.1. 3.1 MM-HMM. OH OH FIVE MM-HMM. AND 6 0 4 0.1. YES. THAT WAS WITHOUT THE GLASSES. MADAM CHAIR. OKAY. MAY I, UH, ASK A QUESTION? UH, THE MOTION, UH, DID IT INCLUDE IN ADDITION TO MAINTAINING, UH, THE VACATE ORDER THAT IT BE BORDERED AND SECURED? YES. THAT WAS PART OF THE MOTION. SO BORDERED AND SECURED IS PART OF THAT MOTION. I, I, I STILL DON'T, I I, WE AT THE MOTION, WE, WE HAD A SECOND. SO WE, JESSE SECOND. OH, JESSE SECOND. OKAY. SO THIS IS DISCUSSION. I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE ARE CONNECTING. MIKE. I CAN'T HEAR YOU. I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE ARE CONNECTING WATER AND, AND, AND, UH, ELECTRICITY, I'M SORRY. CITY CODE REQUIRES UTILITIES TO BE CONNECTED. IF IT'S OCCUPIED, THE ORDER THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER IS TO VACATE, VACATE NUMBER ONE. YEAH. UNTIL UTILITIES ARE RESTORED. ONCE UTILITIES ARE RESTORED, THEY CAN OCCUPY THE BUILDING AGAIN. SO AT JUST MEETING CODE OF HAVING UTILITIES, IF SOMEBODY IS OCCUPYING THE BUILDING, MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS AVIDA RYE WITH LEGAL. [03:40:01] UH, AN OPTION, UH, I WOULD LIKE FOR THE BOARD TO DISCUSS IS, UH, ISSUING THE IMMEDIATE VACATE NOTICE THAT'LL ALLOW, UH, SS A P D TO GO IN AND REMOVE ALL PERSONS, HAVE IT BOARDED AND SECURED. AND THEN UPON PROOF OF TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP, UH, THAT, UH, THE ISSUE OF UTILITIES BEING, UH, RE UH, WHAT'S, UH, PUT, UH, REINSTALLING THE UTILITIES, UH, THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED, UH, WHEN THERE IS PROOF OF TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP AND LEGAL CAN ADDRESS IT. SO IN A VERY LONG-WINDED WAY, UH, AN OPTION I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER IS, UH, OR LIMIT YOUR ORDER TO IMMEDIATE VACATE BOARD AND SECURE AND, UH, NO UTILITIES ON THE PROPERTY OR TO RESUME UNTIL SUCH TIME AS PROOF OF SALE HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO LEGAL MADAM CHAIR, I AMEND MY MOTION TO ORDER. VACATE IMMEDIATE VACATE IMMEDIATELY THAT PROOF OF NEW OWNERSHIP BE PROVIDED TO COUNSEL, EXCUSE ME, NOT COUNSEL, TO CODE TO CO-DEVELOPMENT. AND AT THAT TIME, AFTER PROOF OF OWNERSHIP, NEW OWNERSHIP, UTILITIES COULD BE RESTORED. BUT AGAIN, CONTINUE TO REQUIRE THE BUILDING AND PROPERTY BE SECURE. OKAY. WE HAVE A, WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT FOR, OH, OKAY. WE GOT A SECOND. WE HAVE AN IMMEDIATE, UH, VACATE ORDER. UM, WE HAVE, UH, SECURED AND, UH, BOARDED UP UNTIL, UH, UTILITIES, UH, CAN BE RESTORED. AND WE FIND OUT WHO OR THE NEW OWNER IS AND, UM, HAVE 'EM, I GUESS UNDER THEIR NAME. THE MOTION WOULD BE TO VACATE IMMEDIATELY TO REMAIN VACANT. YES. TO SECURE NEW OWNERSHIP, BE ESTABLISHED TO CODE ENFORCEMENT. AND THEN AT THAT TIME, UTILITIES COULD BE RESTORED. OKAY. CAN I ASK US OR GO AHEAD. ADVICE IF WE'RE GONNA IMMEDIATELY VACATE, CAN WE ALSO SAY IMMEDIATELY VACATE AND SECURE? YEAH. IMMEDIATELY SECURE IT INSTEAD OF WAITING AND PUTTING IT ON A DOWN LIST SOMEWHERE. IT'S, UH, UH, THE IMMEDIATE VACATE, UH, CAN BE ENFORCED, UH, RIGHT, RIGHT NOW BY SS A P D BECAUSE THE BOARD WAS ADVISED BY THE CODE SUPERVISOR THAT A NOTICE TO VACATE HAD BEEN ISSUED AND NOT COMPLIED WITH, UH, THE BOARDING AND SECURING, UH, THAT THAT'LL BE A CODE ENFORCEMENT'S DECISION BECAUSE KEEP IN MIND, UH, THE ORDER DOESN'T BECOME FINAL UNTIL THE APPEAL PERIOD HAS EXPIRED. AND SO, AS FAR AS THE BOARDING AND SECURING, UH, CODE CAN MAKE THAT DECISION TO DO IT ON AN EMERGENCY BASIS. AND IF AN APPEAL IS FILED, UH, WE'LL DEAL WITH THE ISSUE OF, UH, WHETHER OR NOT THE BOARDS NEED TO BE REMOVED AT THAT POINT. SO WE, SO BASICALLY, I'M JUST DROPPING IT IN A MAIN SLAP. . SO , SO, UH, HOLD ON, HOLD ON. CAN I REPEAT THIS PLEASE? OKAY. WE HAVE A, UH, LET ME REPEAT. WE HAVE AN IMMEDIATE ORDER FOR VACATE TO, UH, SECURE THE PROPERTY BOARDED UP AND TELL THE NEW OWNERS CAN BE, UH, TO, UNTIL THE NEW ORDERS CAN BE VERIFIED, VERIFIED TO CODE COMPLIANCE AND TO CODE COMPLIANCE SATISFACTION, UH, WHEN THE UTILITIES WILL BE RESTORED. ALRIGHT. OKAY. WE GOT IT. TAKE THE VOTE. YES. CAN WE TAKE A VOTE PLEASE? DWAYNE NELSON. AYE. JESSE ZUNIGA. AYE. ROBERT TAPIA. AYE. MS. BROWN? AYE. DAVID GARZA? AYE. FERNANDEZ AYE. MOTION PASSES WITH THE VOTE OF SIX TO ZERO . IF YOU EMERGENCY REMOVE, IT'S OVER. IT'S OVER. OKAY. WHO DID YOU READ? YOU MY AURS? UH, THANK. OH, YES, THANK YOU. OKAY. IF THERE'S, OH, THANK YOU MA'AM. UH, YES, YES I DO. OH, , JUST GO [03:45:01] AHEAD. I KNOW. OKAY. UH, CHAIR. YES. THIS IS JUDY KRUM. B S B LIAISON. I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE A QUICK UPDATE TO THE B S B REGARDING THE MEMBERSHIP FOR CORY MONTIEL, WHO'S A PANEL A B S B MEMBER REPRESENTING COUNCIL DISTRICT FOUR. MR. MONTIEL HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE BOARD PURSUANT TO THE B S B GUIDELINES DUE TO A LACK OF ATTENDANCE AT SCHEDULED HEARINGS. MR. MONTE WAS APPOINTED IN FEBRUARY, 2022. OUR B S B CHAIR, MS. HAYES, HAS DROPPED A LETTER TO MR. MONTREAL TO INFORM HIM OF HIS REMOVAL FROM THE B S B. WELL, THANK YOU FOR ADVISING US OF THAT, JUDY. I APPRECIATE IT. SO THE B SS B NOW HAS TWO VACANCIES, DISTRICT FOUR AND DISTRICT SEVEN. AND INTERESTED APPLICANTS CAN APPLY FOR POSITION THROUGH THE ONLINE PORTAL@SANANTONIO.GOV. ADDITIONALLY, THERE HAS BEEN A REVISION TO THE B S B HEARING DATES FOR SEPTEMBER. THE PANEL B MEETING SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 8TH HAS BEEN RESCHEDULED TO SEPTEMBER 22ND. ALSO, THE FULL BOARD MEETING SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 10TH HAS BEEN MOVED UP TO SEPTEMBER 8TH. OH, WOW. AND THIS WILL ALLOW THE D S D MANAGEMENT TEAM TO UPDATE THE BOARD ON THE SS A P AND C UH, PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. THAT WAS DECEMBER 8TH. SEPTEMBER 8TH. SEPTEMBER 8TH. SEPTEMBER 8TH. OKAY. AND ONE OTHER THING, UH, YOU ALL HAVE RECEIVED A, A PORTAL TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM THE CLERK OF COURT TO, TO REVIEW THESE LITTLE VIDEOS AND THEN ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS. PLEASE. YOU HAVE TO DO THAT IF YOU WANNA STAY ON THE BOARD. EVERYBODY HAS RECEIVED THEM BECAUSE ROBERT AND I ARE THE ONLY TWO THAT HAVE TAKEN THE TEST. ACTUALLY, CORRECTION, I'VE COMPLETE, BECAUSE I'VE SENT MINE IN AS WELL. OH, YOU SENT IT IN? NO, I ACTUALLY NOTIFIED HER SOON AS I TOOK IT. YES, YES. AND THOSE ARE MONTHLY TRAINING. SO YOU'LL RECEIVE A NEW ONE FOR AUGUST IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY. I, I WAS GONNA ASK YOU, 'CAUSE I DID RECEIVE ANOTHER ONE FROM NANCY CON, THE O C C. YES. SO I WAS GONNA ASK IF IT WAS THE SAME ONE. YES. OKAY. THEY'RE MONTHLY. WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT A LETTER THAT MR. NELSON WROTE. YOU WROTE A LETTER. MM-HMM. , YOU WROTE IT CAME IN A EMAIL THAT SAID THERE WAS A LETTER THAT THEY WANTED US TO LOOK AT. IT WAS WRITTEN BY WHOM? BY MR. NELSON. WELL, A COURT, IT SAYS IT WAS, I'M JUST A, I I DREW IT DOWN. BUT THERE'S UH, TWO, UH, AREAS IN HERE THAT ARE NOW FILLED AND THAT'S EIGHT AND 10. I'M TELLING THAT THAT'S WHAT I DREW DOWN. IT DOESN'T HAVE A DATE ON IT. I'M NOT AWARE OF WRITING A LETTER. , I THINK YOU WERE HACK. HERE'S THE EVIDENCE. . I DO BELIEVE I SEEN THAT LETTER A WHILE BACK. OH. BUT IT WAS IN AN EMAIL THAT SAID REVIEW THE LETTER. OH, I MAY NOT HAVE LOOKED AT THE RIGHT EMAIL, BUT THE DATES THAT I SAW ON THERE, THERE'S JUST, I MEAN, NOT DATES. THERE'S TWO POSITIONS THAT ARE STILL NOT FULL, BUT YOU HAVE FOUR IN THAT LETTER. TWO, IF IT'S AN OLD LETTER, FINE. BUT IT WAS, IT WAS IN AN EMAIL. SO I OPENED IT. AND INCIDENTALLY, I AM GETTING EMAILS NOW. I CORRECT THE STATEMENT. I DID DRAFT THAT LETTER, BUT IT'S BEEN SOME TIME AGO. IT'S JUST NOW GETTING TO MY EMAIL. SO I MUST BE ON SLOW TURTLE BECAUSE I AM GETTING EMAILS FROM YOU GUYS THAT WERE SENT AS A MATTER OF FACT. SO THEY ARE COMING IN NOW. SO I MAY HAVE JUST WAS GOING THROUGH AND OPENED IT BECAUSE IT SAID, YOU KNOW, SO IT, IT WAS ACTUALLY A SPEECH THAT WE, THAT WE, MEANING MS. BROWN AND I GAVE TO CITY COUNCIL WELL OVER A YEAR AGO, . SO I'M UP TO CURRENT EVENTS. RIGHT. AND, AND BE FACT, BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY DID ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL. WE STAND BY THE NOTES IN THIS . E E EXCEPT FOR THOSE TWO DAY, UH, TWO SEATS. RIGHT. EIGHT TO NINE, EIGHT AND 10. THAT'D BE CORRECT. RIGHT. WELL, I'M GETTING SLOW NOW. SO THIS. YUCK. I HAVE TO SAY THIS IS THE MOST FUN BOARD THERE IS. OKAY. I KNOW. ABSOLUTELY. AND THE MOTION EDUCATED ABSOLUTELY. AND THE BEST REPRESENTED BY LEGAL COUNSEL. AND I GUESS THIS MEANS BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT WE'RE ADJOURNED WITHOUT OBJECTION. SINCE THE CHAIRMAN DIDN'T DO IT. OUR ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.