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GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
I'M THE CHAIR OF THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
I HEREBY CALL THE MEETING INTER SESSION STAFF.
COULD YOU PLEASE CONDUCT A ROLL CALL? LENCIA HAYES.
ALSO PRESENT IN THE MEETING FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ARE ERIC BURNS AND FELIX RAMIREZ FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
AMIN TOMAS, DEPUTY DIRECTOR ALICE G**O, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MANAGER JENNY RAMIREZ, CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER.
AND MYSELF ES ORTIZ, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SPECIALIST.
CAN WE HAVE OUR INTERPRETERS READ THESE INTERPRETATION SERVICES AVAILABLE FOR THE MEETING? HI.
UH, THERE ARE SPANISH TRANSLATION SERVICES, UH, AVAILABLE.
PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES OR ANY DEVICE THAT MAY DISRUPT THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
NO PERSON SHALL DELAY OR DISRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS OR DISOBEY THE ORDER OF THE CHAIR.
IF ANYONE PRESENT WISHES TO SPEAK REGARDING AN AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE SIGN IN ON THE PERSON TO BE HEARD SHEET OR ADVISE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF MEMBER.
ALL PERSONS WISHING TO SPEAK SHALL BE CALLED FORWARD WHEN THEIR RESPECTIVE CASE IS REACHED.
PLEASE NOTE THAT IT IS UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON'S PRESENT IN THIS BUILDING TO SOLICIT OR PET SERVICES REGARDING ANY PROPERTY UNDER CONSIDERATION BY THIS BOARD DURING THE COURSE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
AS PER CODE SECTION ONE SIX DASH 2 3 6.
[ Approval of Minutes ]
HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO READ THE MINUTES FOR, UM, APRIL? MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS IS AT THIS POINT IN TIME.CAN WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES BY ACCLIMATION? ALL RIGHT.
WE ACCEPT WE ACCEPT THE DIMINISHED BY ACCLAMATION.
ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS?
[ Briefing and Possible Action on the following items ]
ALL RIGHT, JENNY.I'M A CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER WITH THE DEPARTMENT.
I HAVE ONE ITEM TO READ INTO THE RECORD THIS MORNING.
UM, THE STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 29 0 2 CASTROVILLE ROAD WAS DEMOLISHED AS AN EMERGENCY ON AUGUST THE 31ST OF 2022, DUE TO A FIRE WHICH OCCURRED ON AUGUST 24TH, 2022.
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 75, NO FURTHER ACTION IS NEEDED BY THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.
THERE ARE BEFORE AND AFTER PHOTOS OF THE STRUCTURE, AND THAT'S THE ONLY ITEM I HAVE.
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE, UH, REGARDING THIS ONE, THAT DOES COMPLETE MY REPORT.
UM, NEXT WE HAVE THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
SO, UM, THE TIME IS NOW 9 21 ON THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2022.
THE BUILDING STANDARDS WILL RECESS FROM THE OPEN MEETING AND CONVENE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT
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WITH LEGAL COUNSEL TO DISCUSS ATTORNEY-CLIENT MATTERS PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 5 1 0.07, ONE OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.YOU DO THIS EVERY TIME YOU GET ME IN TROUBLE RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING.
YOU GOT A LAWYER? ARE WE DOING A RED LIGHT ON THE ROOF? FRED? THE TIME IS NOW 10 11 ON SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2022, THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD WILL NOW RECONVENE AN OPEN SESSION.
NO OFFICIAL ACTION WAS TAKEN IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, THANK OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR BRINGING THE COFFEE REAL QUICK.
GOSH, I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING BRING IT THE NEXT MEETING.
NOW WE'LL HAVE THE SELECTION OF THE BOARD CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.
DO, DO WE HAVE, UH, ANY NOMINATIONS? I I WOULD LIKE TO PUT MY NAME IN THE HAT FOR NOMINATION.
MADAM CHAIR, WE HAVE MR. MS. BROWN AND, UH, COLONEL NELSON.
SO WE HAVE THREE, THAT'S WHY YOU STEPPED DOWN FOR CHAIR.
SO WHO, WHO, SO WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE FOR CHAIR.
THAT'S WHY YOU STEPPED OUT BEFORE JUDY.
TELL ME WHO THE, UM, THE, UH, CANDIDATES, SO TO SPEAK, ARE AGAIN, MS. OKAY, GO AHEAD.
NOMINATIONS WE HAVE ARE FREDERICK ANDIS, MS. BROWN AND MR. NELSON.
UH, I LIKE THE CANDIDATES, UH, IF THEY'RE WILLING TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, STATE WHAT THEY WOULD DO AND THEIR EXPERIENCE AS A BOARD CHAIR.
WE CAMPAIGNING WHY, UH, THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE MR. ZUNIGA WOULD LIKE TO HEAR.
NO, BECAUSE IT'S NOT REQUIRED.
UM, CAN WE JUST GET A, A TALLY FOR THE INDIVIDUALS? ALL IN FAVOR MS. IT'S NOT REQUIRED, BUT IT IS A APPOINTING A PERSONAL, UH, THANK YOU.
UM, AND UP AND DOWN ON EACH INDIVIDUAL.
JUDY, ARE YOU READY TO TAKE A ROLL CALL FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL? MADAM CHAIR? EVEN IF IT'S NOT REQUIRED, IF THE CANDIDATES WANT TO SO STATE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY WOULD DO OR THEIR EXPERIENCE, UH, LET, LET 'EM A DECLINE OR, UH, ACCEPT THE, EACH CANDIDATE IS SITTING NEXT TO ME.
I'LL CALL OUT YOUR NAME IF YOU CAN PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU'D LIKE TO VOTE FOR MS. BROWN.
MR. ANDIS OR MR. NELSON? MS. HAYES? YEAH.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN VOTE ON A BOARD MEETING LIKE THIS.
THIS IS FRED ANN, YOU CAN VOTE IN THIS SITUATION FOR BOARD MEMBER.
FOR WHICH CANDIDATE ARE WE VOTING FOR? WHICHEVER ONE YOU PICK.
WHICH CANDIDATE IS GOING FIRST? UM, IF YOU CAN JUST LET ME KNOW WHO YOU WOULD LIKE TO SELECT OR NOMINATE, AND WE'LL KEEP A TALLY ON OUR END.
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MS. MIRANDA.MR. ZUNIGA, WE, WE WERE VOTING, UM, WE VOTED WITH MR. ANDERSON.
THE THREE INDIVIDUALS NAME THE INDIVIDUAL YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AS THE CHAIR NELSON.
SO MR. NELSON HAS A MAJORITY WITH FOUR VOTES.
MR. ANDIS HAD TWO VOTES, AND MS. BROWN HAD TWO VOTES.
SO OUR SELECTED MEMBER, OR OUR SELECTED BOARD CHAIR FOR THE COMING YEAR IS MR. NELSON.
I THOUGHT HE WAS TIP HIM DOWN.
WELL, THIS WHAT? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
CAN WE NOW HAVE THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS DEPUTY DIRECTOR'S REPORT? WELL, WE STILL GOT VICE CHAIR.
YOU GONNA DO IT? I DON'T HAVE NAME.
MR. BROWN NOMINATED YOU COURT.
SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE HOW MANY, SO WHAT WERE THE NAMES AGAIN? YOU, YOU HAVE A RECORD? WHAT WERE THE NAMES? IF YOU DON'T WANT FOR VICE CHAIR NOMINATION, WE HAVE MR. ANDIS, MS. BROWN, AND MR. TAPIA.
FOR THE VICE CHAIR NOMINATIONS, WE HAVE MR. ANDIS, MS. BROWN, AND MR. TAPIA.
YOU YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO, IF YOU'RE NOMINATED TO I GOT IT.
SO NOW WE ONLY HAVE MS. BROWN AND MR. ANDIS.
JUDY, DID WE SECOND, UH, THE NOMINATIONS ADVICE? LET'S GO AHEAD AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE SECONDED ON THOSE.
WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A SECOND FOR THE, UM, FIRST ONE, EITHER ONE BOARD HERE.
WE DIDN'T HAVE SECONDS ON THE FIRST ONE.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO START OVER.
I NEED TO DO, WE NEED TO DO, UH, CHAIR WITH SECONDED, AND THEN VICE CHAIR WITH SECONDED.
SO IF SOMEBODY'S NOMINATED, THAT NOMINATION NEEDS TO BE SECONDED.
SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE MR. NELSON AS SELECTED AS TO CHAIR.
EACH CANDIDATE HAS TO BE SO BY THE GIMME.
UM, WHAT I NEED TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO DO THE SELECTION OF BOARD CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.
IF THERE'S SOMEBODY ELSE THAT WANTS TO BE NOMINATED, THAT NOMINATION NEEDS TO BE SECONDED, THEN WE CAN DO THE ROLL CALL.
MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS DWAYNE NELSON.
I NOMINATE MS. BROWN FOR THE CHAIR.
SO CAN I GET A SECOND FOR MRS. BROWN NOMINATION? I'LL SECOND.
MS. BROWN HAS SECONDED HER NOMINATION.
CAN I NOMINATE, UH, MR. NELSON? YES.
KAYLA HAS, UH, NOMINATED MR. NELSON.
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UM, THAT NOMINATION? CAN I SECOND? I CAN.Y'ALL ARE POPPING OFF LIKE POPCORN
CAN WE GET A, NOW WE CAN DO A ROLL CALL FOR THAT.
CAN I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE, MS. HAYES? AYE.
YOU SECOND IT, BUT YOU GOTTA VOTE ON THE MEMBER NOW.
THEN YOU SAY, OKAY, YOU'RE NOMINATED.
ALL RIGHT? 'CAUSE THIS IS JUST GETTING TOO CRAZY.
WE HAVE MR. NELSON, MR. ANDIS, AND MS. BROWN.
WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, IF YOU CAN PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHO YOU'RE VOTING FOR.
MR. NELSON, MR. ANDIS? MYSELF, MS. MIRANDA, MR. NELSON.
MR. TAPIA, FRED ANDERS, MR. NELSON, MS. BROWN? SHE'S GOT THREE.
MS. BROWN HAS THREE VOTES, AND MR. ANDES HAS TWO VOTES.
WHO CAN BREAK IT? MR. SOLIS INITIALLY VOTED FOR MR. NELSON, BUT THIS TIME AROUND HE DID VOTE FOR MS. BROWN.
UM, WITH THE, THE TWO PERSONS, UH, THE TWO INDIVIDUALS THAT HAD, HAD THE MOST VOTES.
WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE WHO YOU'LL BE NOMINATING.
MS. MIRANDA? MR. NELSON? MR. SOLIS, MS. BROWN, MS. BROWN AND ME.
MR. NELSON, MS. BROWN, JUDY, BEFORE YOU GIVE US THE, THE FINAL COUNT, CAN YOU, CAN WE HAVE, UH, MS. BROWN VOTE AGAIN? I DON'T KNOW WHO SHE VOTED.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF SHE WAS VOTING.
THE FINAL VOTE? THE FINAL VOTE IS FOUR TO THREE.
UH, MS. BROWN WITH FOUR VOTES.
MR. NOSEN HAD THREE AND WE HAD ONE THAT IS ABSTAINED.
NOW, CAN I GET NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR? UM, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE MYSELF.
MR. UM, ANDIS HAS NOMINATED HIMSELF.
CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND, MR. MR. NELSON HAS SECOND THAT.
CAN I GET A, IS THERE ANOTHER, UM, NOMINATION? MR. NELSON? MR. NELSON? CAN I GET A SECOND FROM MR. NELSON? SECOND.
THE NAMES AGAIN? WE HAVE TWO NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR, MR. ANDIS AND MR. NELSON.
WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHO YOU'LL BE NOMINATING.
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MR. NELSON.MR. ANDIS? MYSELF, MS. MIRANDA.
MR. NELSON? MR. ZUNIGA NELSON.
AND THE FINAL VOTE IS SIX FOR MR. NELSON.
AND TWO MR. ANDES FOR THE VICE CHAIR.
SO WE HAVE MS. BROWN FOR THE BOARD CHAIR.
AND MR. NELSON FOR VICE CHAIR.
SO IT'LL BE, I MEAN, PROBABLY DOING BOTH OF THEM, BUT THIS THE FIRST ONE COMES OUT.
AND JUDY, DO WE HAVE THE FINAL ONE? WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD ON THAT.
WELL, CONGRATULATIONS BOARD FOR, UM, NOMINATING AND ELECTING A NEW BOARD CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.
GOOD MORNING CHAIR AND COMMITTEE BOARD MEMBERS.
SO NOW, WHO IS THE CHAIR OFFICIALLY NOW? IS IT MS. BROWN TECHNIC? TECHNICALLY NO, I'M STILL, OH, YOU ARE STILL.
UM, SO THE FIRST TOPIC, I HAVE TWO TOPICS.
ONE IS HOPEFULLY SHORT THIS ONE, THE NEXT ONE GONNA TAKE HOPEFULLY NOT MORE THAN HOUR AND A HALF, BUT WE WILL SEE.
UM, SO THIS ONE IS BASICALLY JUST THE PERFORMANCE METRICS, UH, FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT.
AND IT DOES SHOW BASICALLY THE FULL FISCAL YEAR.
OUR FISCAL YEAR STARTS OCTOBER 1ST, 2021, AND ENDS ACTUALLY END OF SEPTEMBER.
SO OBVIOUSLY THIS IS UP TO DATE RIGHT NOW.
UH, WE DID 118,000 PLUS CASES, UH, SO FAR THIS YEAR.
UH, 69 PLUS OF THOSE ARE PROACTIVE CASES.
AND 48,923 ARE REACTIVE CASES.
SO BASICALLY, IF YOU TAKE THE PERCENTAGE OF THAT, UH, THE PROACTIVE PERCENTAGE IS ABOUT 55%.
WE ARE REALLY WORKING HARD TO TRY TO MEET IT, BUT WE HAVE ONLY, YOU KNOW, UH, LESS THAN A MONTH TO, TO WRAP IT UP.
SO I DON'T THINK WE GONNA GET THERE.
UH, IN REGARDS TO RESPONSE TIME, TIER ONE, OUR REQUIREMENT IS TWO DAYS.
SO OUR RESPONSE TIME FOR TIER ONE OR TWO, THE AVERAGE THROUGHOUT, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR IS TWO DAYS EACH.
THE COMPLIANCE RATE IS TO GET THE CASE CLOSED WITHIN 45 DAYS.
AND OUR SENT, UH, SO FAR WE ARE AT 76%, UM, YEAR TO DATE.
AND AGAIN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST FEW MONTHS, YOU CAN SEE OUR COMPLIANCE RATE IS BETTER THAN EARLIER IN THE YEAR.
UM, THE, UM, THE PROACTIVENESS IS ROUGHLY THE SAME, KIND OF GOES UP A LITTLE AND DOWN.
UM, BUT THE BIG REASON FOR THIS IS, UM, SINCE BASICALLY THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR, I BELIEVE WE HIRED ABOUT 20 PLUS NEW CODE OFFICERS AND THEY NEED TIME TO BE TRAINED.
THEY HAVE IN CLASS TRAINING, WE GO THROUGH THAT, THEN WE PUT THEM WITH ANOTHER OFFICER TO KIND OF SHADOW THEM FOR A WHILE, WHICH THAT TAKES SOME TIME FROM THE TRAINING OFFICER WHO IS TRAINING THEM, UH, SLOW THEM DOWN A LITTLE BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO SHOW THEM EVERYTHING, EXPLAIN EVERYTHING.
SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND.
UH, BUT I THINK WE ARE, WE ARE CATCHING UP NOW, TECHNICALLY AS OF TODAY, WE HAVE THREE VACANCIES ONLY, BUT WE HAVE EIGHT GOING THROUGH TRAINING RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE NINE GOING THROUGH TRAINING RIGHT NOW ACTUALLY.
WE POSTED THE POSITION AND WE ARE GONNA DO INTERVIEWS NEXT WEEK.
SO WE ARE HOPING BY THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.
SO BY THE END OF THIS MONTH, HOPEFULLY WE HAVE ALL THE POSITIONS FILLED.
AGAIN, JUST THE LAST NINE PLUS THE THREE WE GONNA HIRE, HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
THOSE WILL STILL BE UNDER TRAINING.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE TECHNICALLY HAVE A FULL STAFF OR CLOSE TO FULL STAFF BY THEN.
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SO HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR, UM, ALL OUR NUMBERS WILL BE WHERE THEY NEED TO BE AS FAR AS PERFORMANCE METRICS.I GUESS BEFORE I GO TO GRAFFITI, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT? WE HAVE TOTAL, I BELIEVE, ABOUT 115, UH, CODE OFFICERS.
UM, SOME OFFICERS ARE OBVIOUSLY CODE OFFICERS, SOME DP OFFICERS.
AND THEN WE HAVE ABOUT 15 OF THOSE TOTAL ARE IN THE SPECIAL TEAMS. SO COMBINED, WE HAVE ABOUT 115.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY PLANS TO SHOW US SOME, UH, REVENUE NUMBERS? I DON'T THINK I SEE A BLANK REVENUE NUMBERS WITH REGARDS TO WHAT ALL THIS IS COSTING.
UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION RIGHT HERE, BUT I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU OUR BUDGET FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT IN GENERAL, THE WHOLE BUDGET IS ABOUT 14 MILLION.
THAT'S THE TOTAL BUDGET WE HAVE.
I DON'T HAVE THE BREAKDOWN FOR YOU AT THIS POINT, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN GET THAT AND SEND IT TO YOU.
NOW, AGAIN, REVENUE WISE, 'CAUSE YOU ASKED REVENUE TECHNICALLY, AS YOU KNOW, I MEAN GENERAL, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT IS GENERAL FUND.
SO WE GET MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND FROM THE CITY TO OPERATE COMPARED TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SIDE, THE INSPECTIONS AND PLAN REVIEW, THAT'S AN FUND.
SO WHATEVER WE COLLECT FROM CONTRACTORS, WE SPEND BASICALLY TO DO THE WORK THAT THEY NEED US TO DO.
SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT OVER HERE.
WE GET THE MONEY FROM THE POOL THAT THE CITY HAS, BUT OBVIOUSLY REVENUE WISE, WE DON'T GET A LOT OF REVENUE.
YOU KNOW, NOBODY PAYS US EXACTLY FOR EVERY CODE OFFICER FOR EVERY JOB THEY DO.
UH, WHEN WE DO ABATEMENTS, OBVIOUSLY WE DO REQUIRE THE OWNER TO PAY US BACK.
WE PUT LIENS ON THE PROPERTY, BUT AS YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THOSE LIENS MIGHT LAST 20 YEARS OR SO TILL THE PROPERTY IS SOLD.
THAT'S WHEN WE COLLECT THE MONEY.
SO TECHNICALLY THE REVENUES, I WANNA SAY PROBABLY 1.5 TO 2 MILLION PROBABLY.
BUT AGAIN, WE CAN'T GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU OR THE EXPENDITURES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE TO, TO KEEP ALL THIS TOGETHER.
THE, THE, THE EXPENSES BASICALLY IS ABOUT THE, THE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS ABOUT 15 MILLION.
SO WE HAVE ABOUT $2 MILLION OF THAT ALLOCATED FOR VACANT LOT ABATEMENTS FOR DP ABATEMENTS AND FOR DEMOLITIONS AS WELL.
AND AGAIN, AS I SAID, WE DO THE WORK, THEN WE PUT LIEN ON THE PROPERTY.
BUT AGAIN, SOMETIMES WE COLLECT, MOST OF THE TIMES WE DON'T.
IT'S JUST THE LIEN ON THE PROPERTY.
AND AS WE GET INTO INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES, THESE NUMBERS ARE GONNA BE KIND OF IMPORTANT AS WELL, I WOULD THINK.
BUT AGAIN, I MEAN, I, I'LL GET YOU ALL THAT INFORMATION.
WE CAN SEND IT TO YOU, UH, IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT IT.
UH, THE FIRST ONE IS ON GRAFFITI.
I NOTICED THIS TIME THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE.
DID WE DO ANY GRAFFITI ABATEMENTS? YES.
I, I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THAT YET, BUT SURE.
I GUESS ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT CODE BEFORE I JUMP TO GRAFFITI? DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT CODE? YEAH.
ALSO, UM, FOR THE PEOPLE IN HERE, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT FAST THE FAST TEAM DOES? THE FAST, YEAH.
BECAUSE I DON'T THINK A LOT OF THEM KNOW WHAT THE FAST TEAM DOES FOR CODE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FAST TEAM IS.
WELL, THE, THE, THE QUICK RESPONSE TEAM THAT YOU SENT OUT.
DO I I I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.
WHEN YOU, WHEN I ASK YOU ABOUT THAT ONE, THE STRIKE TEAM, YOU MEAN THE STRIKE TEAM.
THE STRIKE TEAM IS NOT PART OF CODE ENFORCEMENT.
THE STRIKE TEAM IS PART OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT THEY DO? SURE, YES.
SO, AND, AND, AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
AGAIN, UH, I GUESS I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, IT'S KIND OF, UH, SPLIT INTO THREE DIVISIONS.
THE FIRST ONE IS PERMITTING AND PLAN REVIEW.
SO ANYTIME ANY CONTRACTOR WANTS TO DO ANY WORK, EITHER NEW, UH, PROPERTY OR REMODELING OR ADDITIONS TO AN EXISTING PROPERTY, THEY NEED TO PULL A PERMIT.
THEY SUBMIT THE PERMIT APPLICATION, THEY SUBMIT THE PLANS.
WE HAVE A PLAN REVIEW TEAM THAT REVIEWS ALL THE PLANS.
IF EVERYTHING IS GOOD AND MEETS CODE, THEY ISSUE THE
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PERMIT.SO NOW AT THAT POINT, THE CONTRACTOR CAN START THE WORK AFTER THAT, IT TURNS OVER TO THE INSPECTION SIDE.
WHENEVER THE CONTRACTOR IS READY AND THEY DO THE WORK OR CERTAIN PORTIONS OF THE WORK, THEY CALL FOR INSPECTIONS, WE GO INSPECT IT TO, TO MAKE SURE WHAT WAS APPROVED, WHICH MEETS CODE ON PAPER IS PHYSICALLY INSTALLED AND DONE APPROPRIATELY.
WHEN ALL THE INSPECTIONS PASS, WE ISSUE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, TELLING THEM YOU ARE GOOD TO GO.
NOW YOU CAN OCCUPY THAT STRUCTURE AGAIN IF IT'S NEW BUILDING OR ADDITION OR REMODELED.
NOW THE ONE, THE THIRD DIVISION THAT I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT, ACTUALLY, NORMALLY THAT STARTS ALL THE WAY AHEAD OF TIME.
THAT'S BASICALLY PLATTING ZONE.
IT'S LAND DEVELOPMENT, IT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR ZONING, PLATTING, ADDRESSING, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO AGAIN, IF SOMEBODY DEVELOPER BUYS A LAND AND WANTS TO DO CERTAIN WORK THERE OR CERTAIN, CERTAIN BUILDING, IT DEPENDS ON THE ZONING.
IF THE ZONING MATCH, THEY CAN PROCEED.
THEY WILL DO PERMIT FOR UTILITIES FOR THE, UM, SITE WORK BASICALLY, AND ALL THAT.
AND THEN FROM THERE IT GOES AGAIN TO THE PLAN REVIEW AND PERMITTING THAT I MENTIONED.
SO THOSE ARE THE THREE DIVISIONS ABOUT, I WANNA SAY FOUR YEARS AGO ROUGHLY.
UH, WE START NOTICING A LOT OF PEOPLE DOING WORK WITH NO PERMITS IN TOWN AND MAINLY ON RESIDENTIAL.
I MEAN, COMMERCIAL, IT'S HAPPENING AND I'M SURE IT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW WHILE I'M SPEAKING.
BUT RESIDENTIAL ACTUALLY IS, IS REALLY A LOT BIGGER PROBLEM.
SO ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, UH, WE KIND OF DID, WE TRIED IT A LITTLE BIT INTERNALLY.
WE JUST PULLED A COUPLE OF INSPECTORS AND SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, LET'S FOCUS ON THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE WORKED ON THE WEEKENDS ONLY.
'CAUSE NORMALLY PEOPLE WHO WANT TO CHEAT, I GUESS THEY DO THE WORK ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY BECAUSE THEY KNOW WE ARE NOT WORKING.
SO THEY DO THE WORK AND THEY SHUT DOWN AND SAY, YOU KNOW, NOBODY GONNA COME AND CATCH US.
SO WE START DOING SOME INSPECTIONS SATURDAY AND SUNDAY AND WE START CATCHING A LOT OF THOSE.
UH, SO WE WENT TO COUNCIL, WE GET APPROVAL TO ADD FIVE MEMBERS, FIVE INSPECTORS, AND THEY'RE DESIGNATED TO DO THAT WORK.
SO WE CAME UP WITH THE NAMES STRIKE TEAM.
UH, AND THAT TEAM ACTUALLY, THAT'S ALL WHAT THEY DO.
BUT THEY DON'T ONLY WORK WEEKENDS, THEY WORK BASICALLY EVERY DAY.
AND WE HAVE THEM SPLIT ON DIFFERENT SHIFTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO A LOT OF TIMES WHAT THEY DO, THEY GO JUST DRIVE AROUND, FIND, YOU KNOW, JOBS.
YOU KNOW, IF I'M PULLING NEXT TO A JOB, I SEE CONSTRUCTION GOING ON.
I PULL THERE, PULL MY COMPUTER OR, OR A TABLET.
IF THEY HAVE PERMITS AND THEY LOOK APPROPRIATE, I MIGHT NOT EVEN WALK IN.
IF THEY FIND, LIKE THE EXAMPLE, UH, FRED SHOWED ME EARLIER BEFORE THE MEETING, IF THEY STOP AT A LOCATION AND THEY HAVE A PERMIT CALLED, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THIS CASE CALLED GENERAL REPAIR, THAT MEANS IT'S MINOR.
BUT THEN THEY SEE FULL ADDITIONS AND BUNCH OF THINGS LIKE THAT.
THEY ACTUALLY GO AND FIND WHOEVER'S THERE, TALK TO THEM, UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE OF WORK, AND IF THE SCOPE OF WORK DOESN'T MATCH THE PERMIT, THEY ISSUE A STOP WORK.
THEY TELL THEM, YOU CANNOT DO ANY WORK ANYMORE.
YOU NEED TO COME DOWN HERE, PULL A PERMIT, THE APPROPRIATE PERMIT FOR YOUR WORK.
THAT WAY WE CAN INSPECT IT APPROPRIATELY.
UM, WHILE THEY'RE IN THE OFFICE, SOMETIMES THEY GO ONLINE AND THEY JUST CHECK SOME OF THE WEBSITES, RIGHT? REALTOR.COM AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND ZILLOW OR WHATEVER TO SEE, YOU KNOW, SOME ADVERTISEMENTS.
SO YOU SEE THIS ADVERTISEMENT FOR A HOUSE BUILT 50, 60 YEARS AGO.
AND YOU HAVE ALL THESE PICTURES SAY, NOW IT'S MODERN HOME, OPEN SPACE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND OBVIOUSLY WE PULL THAT ADDRESS IN THE SYSTEM, THERE'S NO PERMITS AT ALL, AND IT'S BASICALLY READY TO GO AND SOMEBODY GONNA BUY IT.
UM, SO AGAIN, THEY GO THERE AND INITIATE THAT.
AND A LOT OF TIMES ACTUALLY NOT JUST STOP WORK, WE PUT STOP WORK AND WE DISCONNECT UTILITIES.
'CAUSE WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST IS WE DO STOP WORK AND NEXT DAY THEY SELL THE HOUSE.
NOW THE NEW OWNER COMES IN AND LIVE THERE AND THE THE CEILING IS SAGGING BECAUSE THEY HAD A SMALL LIVING, LIVING ROOM AND A KITCHEN, AND THEY REMOVE THAT LOAD BEARING WALL IN BETWEEN.
AND NOW THAT ROOF, AFTER A FEW MONTHS, IT STARTS SAGGING.
AND AT ANY TIME IT COULD COLLAPSE.
SO AGAIN, IT'S A MAJOR ISSUE THAT WE ARE FACING.
BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE NOT CODE ENFORCEMENT, BUT OBVIOUSLY THEY WORK CLOSELY LIKE CODE ENFORCEMENT AND INSPECTIONS.
ANY CODE OFFICER IN THE FIELD, IF THEY SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY TURN IT OVER TO THE STRIKE TEAM, HEY, GO TO THIS ADDRESS REAL QUICK AND CHECK ON IT.
BUT THAT'S THE STRIKE TEAM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AGAIN, I KNOW IT'S NOT PART OF THIS, BUT GOOD QUESTION.
AND YOU GUYS NEED TO KNOW THAT THAT'S A GOOD ISSUE BECAUSE ELIMINATING A, A LOAD BEARING WA THAT'S LIKE A FELONY.
YOU HAVE TO FI CATCH THESE PEOPLE, FIND 'EM, AND THAT'S A DEFINITE, UH, ABSOLUTELY
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ISSUE.AND I, AND I, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT UNTIL YOU DISCUSSED IT.
I'M SORRY, I RE I NAMED IT DIFFERENTLY.
I FIRST I COULDN'T CONNECT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING YEAH, I, I DON'T THINK A LOT OF THEM KNEW THAT WAS OUT THERE BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY USED IT TWICE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD FOR PEOPLE NOT DOING PROPER.
AND IN ONE OF THE HOUSES RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE AN ISSUE WHERE THE ROOF IS ACTUALLY TAKING A BIG DIP BECAUSE THEY REMOVE STUFF.
SO IT IS A SERVICE OUT THERE AND IT'S PROBABLY A LOT QUICKER THAN CALLING CODE SOMETIMES AND HAVING A CODE ENFORCEMENT, REALLY, YOU'RE GONNA CALL 'EM ANYWAY.
SO I THANK YOU GUYS FOR HAVING THAT AND THANKS STEVE.
YEAH, JUST ONE LAST THING ABOUT THAT.
SO YEAH, IF YOU SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, JUST YOU CAN CALL 3 1 1 AND JUST TELL THEM, I BELIEVE THERE IS WORK WITH NO PERMIT.
AND IMMEDIATELY THAT GOES TO THE STRIKE TEAM AND WE WILL DISPATCH SOMEBODY TO GO CHECK THAT LOCATION.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS MR. ANDES? NO, NO, THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT CODE OR STRIKE THEME OR ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.
UH, SO JUMPING INTO GRAFFITI ABATEMENT, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, OUR GOAL IS TO GET 50,000 SITES IN A YEAR.
UH, SO FAR WE ARE AT 41,000 PLUS, UH, SITES RIGHT NOW.
AND OUR TURN, UH, AROUND TIME, WE ARE ALLOWED UP TO THREE DAYS TO RESPOND TO THOSE.
AND WE ARE AT THREE DAYS RIGHT NOW.
BUT, UH, AGAIN, TURNAROUND TIME, WE ARE AS I, I'M SORRY, THE ABATEMENT, SITE SITES ABATED.
WE ARE AT ABOUT 40,000 AND OUR GOAL IS 50,000.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA MEET THAT BY THE END OF THIS MONTH AS WELL.
WE, WE HAVE, UM, THE GRAFFITI TEAM CONSISTS OF 19 MEMBERS.
WE HAVE A MANAGER, ADMIN PERSON, SUPERVISOR, AND THEN THE REST ARE FOLKS IN THE FIELD.
BASICALLY, UH, AT SOME POINT WE HAD SEVEN OF THEM, EITHER VACANT OR SOME PEOPLE WERE OUT ON F M L A MEDICAL LEAVE.
SO WE WERE LIKE 50% BASICALLY STAFFED FOR ABOUT FOUR, FIVE MONTHS.
UM, AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT GRAFFITI? HOW MUCH IT COST? WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE BUDGET FOR GRAFFITI ABATEMENT OR DO YOU HAVE, OR DO YOU JUST SEND SOMEBODY OUT TO DO IT? NO, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A SPECIFIC BUDGET FOR IT, UH, FOR THAT TEAM CONSISTS OF 19 EMPLOYEES PLUS THE MATERIAL THAT WE BUY.
AND ALL THAT IS ABOUT 1.9 TO 2 MILLION.
HAVE YOU ALL EVER LOOKED INTO, UM, I THINK IT'S CALLED AMERICAN GRAFFITI.
IT'S A, IT'S THE INDEPENDENT COMPANY AND THEY COME OUT AND THEY, UH, YOU KNOW, ERASE GRAFFITI, HOW MUCH THEY WOULD COST.
IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT LESS EXPENSIVE THAN 2 MILLION.
BUT THEN AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, UM, HOW MANY ABATEMENTS YOU ALL DO PER YEAR? I THINK IT'S CALLED AMERICAN GRAFFITI.
AND UH, OUR GOAL IS 50,000 SITES.
SO THAT MEANS 50,000 LOCATIONS.
SOME OF THEM COULD BE ONE BY ONE OR TWO BY TWO SQUARE FOOT THAT WE NEED TO PAINT, PAINT.
SOME OF THEM COULD BE THE WHOLE BUILDING OR THE WHOLE WALL.
UH, AND WE DO HAVE THOSE NUMBERS.
BASICALLY HOW MANY SQUARE FEET WE DID PHYSICALLY PAINT, WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION AS WELL.
IT'S LIKE, UH, JENNY OR DANNY, DO YOU KNOW ROUGHLY WHAT THAT NUMBER IS FOR WHICH YEAR, SIR? FOR THIS UP TO DATE? THIS YEAR TO DATE OR, OR ANY PREVIOUS YEAR IS FINE.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT TWO 3 MILLION SQUARE FEET, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY? DO YOU WANT SECOND? SOMEWHERE THERE.
BUT, SO UP TO DATE THROUGH AUGUST, WE'VE UH, ABATED 40,000 SITES AND OVER 3 MILLION, UM, SQUARE FOOTAGE OF, UH, SPACE.
SO OVER 3 MILLION, UH, SQUARE FEET.
WELL, IT'S JUST A, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A QUESTION.
I THOUGHT OF IT, IT MIGHT BE, UM, IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE LESS EXPENSIVE IF YOU HIRE A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR TO DO IT VERSUS, YOU KNOW, HAVING YOUR IN-HOUSE PEOPLE DO IT.
UH, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE DECISION FOR YOU ALL TO MAKE.
YOU, IT WAS JUST A SUGGESTION ON MY PART.
I CAN'T CHECK WITH THEM AND SEE AND IF IT'S MORE EFFICIENT, WHY NOT? BUT I WOULD THINK IT'S GONNA BE MORE EXPENSIVE.
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BUT AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S A GREAT IDEA.UH, AT LEAST WHEN WE ARE SHORTHANDED, MAYBE THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION TO USE THEM, EVEN IF THEY'RE MORE EXPENSIVE.
BUT THAT WAY WE CONTINUE TO, YOU KNOW, GET OUR GOALS OR GET TO OUR TARGET.
I GOT TWO PARTS ON THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THIS.
THAT'S ONLY THE ONES YOU'VE DONE.
ARE YOU ALREADY, I I KNOW THERE'S PROBABLY SOME ALREADY YOU GOT CALLS ON ALREADY THAT ARE LINED UP.
ARE THOSE ADDED INTO THIS NUMBER OR NOT YET? NO, THIS IS, THIS IS TO THE END OF AUGUST.
SO THOSE NUMBERS, BY THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, ALL THESE NUMBERS WILL BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
SO LET'S SAY IT'S GONNA BE 45,000, MAYBE 46,000 SITES INSTEAD OF THE 40,000.
SO WITH THAT IN MIND, AND YOU PUT IN FOR THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR, ARE YOU GONNA LOSE MONEY BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T HIT THAT TARGETED AMOUNT IN THE BUDGET? OR DOES THE BUDGET STAY THE SAME? NO.
OR THIS, THE, THE LAST, THE LAST FEW YEARS, I GUESS DUE TO COVID AND DUE TO VACANCIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, WE, WE DID NOT LOSE THE BUDGET.
WE, WE MAINTAINED WHAT WE HAVE.
OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T ASK FOR MORE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT EVEN MEETING OUR GOAL, BUT WE MAINTAINED WHAT WE HAVE.
AND THE REASON I ASK THAT, 'CAUSE I KNOW SOMETIMES IF YOUR BUDGET, LIKE WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME ON YOUR FULL BUDGET, IF YOU DIDN'T USE IT ALL, THEY WANT TO CUT IT BACK BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T CORRECT.
I MEAN, CAN YOU ALSO KIND OF EXPLAIN HOW SOMETIMES WHEN YOU GET A CALL IN FOR CERTAIN ABATEMENTS, THOSE ABATEMENTS DO NOT FALL WITHIN YOUR JURISDICTION? LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, WITHIN OUR AREA, I'VE CALLED IN A NUMBER OF ABATEMENTS, BUT SOME OF THEM WERE TECH DOT.
SO LIKE, UM, I 10 RIGHT THERE ON THAT HIGHWAY, I CALLED IN THAT ABATEMENT AND 3 1 1 SAID, GAVE ME A CALL BACK AND SAID THAT WASN'T WITHIN THEIR JURISDICTION.
SO I HAD TO CALL TXDOT AND THEY CAME IN AND THEY ABATED THAT ONE.
SO THAT ONE WOULDN'T FALL WITHIN YOUR, UH, CAPTURE.
AND THEN ALSO CERTAIN BUILDINGS, IF IT WAS PRIVATELY OWNED, UM, THEY WOULD HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT AS WELL.
SO THE, THE CALLS WE HAVE HERE OR THE CASES, THE 118,000 PLUS CASES, THOSE ARE PHYSICALLY CASES THAT WE AT LEAST INSPECTED ONE TIME.
THE INITIAL INSPECTION HAPPENED BASICALLY.
SO ANY, ANYTHING THAT IS OUTSIDE OUR JURISDICTION, AS YOU SAID, THERE IS TEXT DOT, UH, UNION PACIFIC, THEY HAVE SMALL EASEMENT AROUND, UH, THEIR RAIL TRACK, UH, RAILROAD TRACKS.
AND SO AGAIN, THOSE DON'T COUNT, THOSE DON'T COME TO US.
I I JUST GOT AN EMAIL YESTERDAY, UH, ABOUT A PROBLEM IN AN AREA AND IT'S OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS.
SO I FORWARD THAT EMAIL TO BEAR COUNTY AND I CONTACTED THE CITIZEN AND SAID, THIS IS NOT IN OUR JURISDICTION.
SO AGAIN, ANY OF THOSE CALLS DO NOT COUNT TOWARDS WHAT WE ARE DOING.
'CAUSE WE DID NOT DO THE WORK.
IF YOU HAVE A REPEAT PROPERTY IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY JUST KEEP GRAFFITI IN LIKE A FENCE, THAT ONE STILL COUNTS EVERY TIME YOU GO OUT THERE? EVERY TIME WE ABATE THE YES, CORRECT.
SO THAT ONE COULD BE DID FIVE, 10 TIMES IN A MONTH AND THAT COUNTS.
SOME OF THOSE AREAS, WHEN WE SEE REPEAT OFFENDERS, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S DOING IT, BUT THE SAME LOCATION, UH, WE, WE, WE ARE IN CONTACT WITH PD AND SOMETIMES THEY START ADDING PATROL IN THAT AREA JUST TO SEE IF THEY CATCH THAT PERSON.
IT'S, IT'S HARD TO CATCH SOMEBODY WHO DOES GRAFFITI TO BE HONEST WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU PATROL AT 23 HOURS A DAY AND THEN THAT HOUR, WHENEVER THAT IS, EVEN FIVE MINUTES, YOU LEAVE FIVE MINUTES, SOMEBODY COMES AND DO WHATEVER AND THEN LEAVE.
SO IT'S REALLY HARD TO CATCH THEM.
BUT NORMALLY WHEN THEY SEE A PDS PRESENCE, THEY DECIDE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S NOT LIKE THEY STOPPED.
THEY JUST, OH, I'M NOT DOING IT HERE.
ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS? I THOUGHT THIS IS THE EASY ONE.
OKAY,
SO BEFORE I EVEN START, I WANT TO THANK EVERY ONE OF YOU WHO REALLY HELPED US WITH THIS PROCESS.
IT'S A, IT'S A TEDIOUS PROCESS, BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR OUR CITY.
UM, SO AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
CAN I USE THE MOUSE TO JUST CLICK? OKAY.
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YOU GUYS ARE ALREADY ON THE BOARD AND YOU KNOW, THE REASON FOR THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE AND ALL THAT.BUT AGAIN, JUST FOR THE RECORD, I GUESS, UM, THE MAIN REASON FOR THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, WHICH IS CHAPTER SIX OF OUR CITY CODE, IS TO ENSURE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF OUR RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITY.
BASICALLY, THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE APPLIES TO COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.
SO IT'S NOT ONLY FOR ONE OR THE OTHER.
SOMETIMES WE GET CALLS, IS THIS ONLY RESIDENTIAL OR ONLY COMMERCIAL? SO IT DOES COVER EVERY STRUCTURE IN, IN THE CITY, BASICALLY COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL, OR ANY OTHER STRUCTURE.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE BUT TECHNICALLY INDUSTRIAL OR ANY, ANY OF THOSE.
SO THE AMENDMENT PROCESS, NORMALLY, UH, WE ARE ONE OF THE FEW CITIES BASICALLY THAT ADOPTS THE NEW CODE EVERY TIME IT COMES.
SO INTERNATIONAL, UH, CODE COUNCIL, THEY PUBLISH NEW CODES EVERY THREE YEARS.
THEY'RE ON A THREE YEAR CYCLE.
AND THE REASON FOR IT IS BASICALLY THROUGHOUT THE PREVIOUS THREE YEARS, THEY HEAR CERTAIN ISSUES.
UM, THERE IS, AGAIN, WITH TECHNOLOGY, THINGS CHANGE AND THEY WANNA KEEP UP AND MAKE, MAKE SURE WHAT WE ARE ENFORCING IS APPLICABLE.
SO THEY HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS, IT'S NATIONWIDE, UM, THEY TALK ABOUT IT.
UM, ACTUALLY THE NEXT ONE IS THIS COMING WEEK.
I'M GOING ON SATURDAY, SPENDING A WEEK THERE.
IT'S, IT'S PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE 2024 CODES.
UH, SO AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A CYCLE THAT THEY GO THROUGH A BUNCH OF PUBLIC HEARINGS, HEAR WHAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED, REVIEW IT SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID INTERNALLY FOR THIS ACTUALLY PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.
SO AGAIN, WE, WE ADOPT THAT EVERY THREE YEARS.
AND WHAT WE HAVE DIFFERENT THAN OTHER CITIES IS WE BOUGHT THE RIGHTS FROM I C C INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL.
BASICALLY WE BOUGHT THE RIGHTS TO TAKE THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE AND MODIFY IT TO FIT OUR CITY.
'CAUSE NOT EVERYTHING WRITTEN THERE FITS EVERY SINGLE CITY.
SO THEY, THEY PUBLISHED THIS TO COVER ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING, SMALL JURISDICTIONS, BIG JURISDICTIONS, SOME WITHOUT RULES, SOME WITH RULES, RIGHT? SO WE DIDN'T WANNA ADOPT IT AS IS.
UH, SO COUPLE OF CYCLES AGO WE DECIDED, WE COMMUNICATED WITH THEM, WE BOUGHT THE RIGHT.
SO EVERY TIME THEY PUBLISH, WE PAY THEM TO BUY THE RIGHT, SO WE CAN CREATE OUR OWN BOOK.
AND THAT'S WHY OUR BOOK CALLED S A P M C, WHICH IS SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, NOT INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.
BUT AGAIN, IT IS BASED ON THE INTERNATIONAL ONE.
SO WE TAKE THE INTERNATIONAL ONE, WE REVIEW IT, WE COMPARE THAT WITH WHAT WE HAVE TODAY, AND WE MODIFY WHAT WE HAVE WITH ANY CHANGES WE WANT BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE.
YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? THIS IS ROBERT TAPIA.
SO WHEN YOU SAY WE, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE STATE AND THEIR MANDATES? THE STATE ADOPTED IT.
THE STATE HAS SOME RULES THAT THEY, THEY ENFORCE.
WE DON'T ENFORCE NECESSARILY THE STATE RULES UNLESS THEY APPLY TO US.
NOT EVERY STATE RULE IS ADOPTED BY THE CITY AND ENFORCED BY THE CITY.
IT STILL NEED TO BE ENFORCED, BUT THE CITY ACTUALLY ENFORCES THAT.
WE GET A LOT OF CALLS FROM CITIZENS SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW, MY WALL HAS MOLD ON IT.
CAN YOU COME FIX IT? WHEN WE GO OUT THERE, WE FIX THE PROBLEM.
SO WHY DID YOU HAVE MOLD? BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LEAK FROM THE FLOOR ABOVE OR FROM THE, THE CEILING.
FROM THE ROOF, RIGHT? SO OUR CHARGE IS BASED ON THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE IS TO MAKE SURE THE LEAK STOPS.
SO WE DEAL WITH THE OWNER, WITH THE LANDLORD, WHOEVER THAT PERSON IS, AND WE GET THAT FIXED.
BUT THE MOLD ITSELF, WE DON'T HAVE ANY JURISDICTION OVER THAT.
THAT IS A STATE RULE AND THEY HAVE THEIR ENFORCEMENT AGENCY TO ENFORCE THAT.
SO WE TELL THE CITIZEN, CONTACT THE STATE AND THEY WILL WORK WITH YOU ON THAT.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING THERE IS STATE RULES THAT WE DO NOT, WE CANNOT ENFORCE.
WELL, YOU BRING UP A A, A GOOD PROBLEM THAT IS A PROBLEM AND ARCHITECTS NEED TO GET INVOLVED AS WELL BECAUSE IN ADDITION TO JUST REPLACING IT, IT'S A PROBLEM OF VENTILATION.
AND I KNOW THAT'S COME UP IN THE LAST, LAST YEAR WITH COVID AND EVERYTHING.
VENTILATION IS A KEY TO ELIMINATING, UH, MOLD.
SO YOU, I AND MY, JUST MY SUGGESTION TO, UH, IN ADDITION TO, UM, GETTING, IT'S, IT CALLS FOR A REDESIGN OF, OF AND HAVING PROPER VENTILATION THAT WILL HELP WITH, WITH THESE AIRBORNE THINGS THAT HUMANS ARE PICKING UP AND, AND MOLD AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
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KIND OF GETTING OUT OF THIS A LITTLE, BUT I'LL ANSWER THAT REALLY QUICKLY.AS WE ADOPT THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE EVERY THREE YEARS AND MODIFY TO FIT OUR CITY, WE DO ADOPT ALL OTHER CODES, BUILDING RELATED CODES, THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING, RESIDENTIAL BUILDING, MECHANICAL, PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL ENERGY CODE, UH, PULL AND SPARK CODE, UM, FIRE CODE, THANK YOU, UH, EXISTING BUILDING CODE AS WELL.
SO THERE IS LIKE 11 OF THOSE 10 BUILDING RELATED.
SO THERE IS 11 CODES THAT WE ADOPT EVERY THREE YEARS.
ONE OF THEM IS THE MECHANICAL CODE THAT TALKS ABOUT VENTILATION.
SO WITH, WITH YEARS, I GUESS YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 20, 30 YEARS AGO, MECHANICAL CODE TO TODAY VENTILATION CHANGED THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.
ONE OF THE RULES, NOT JUST OUR CITY, MOST OF THE CITIES, EXISTING BUILDINGS, YOU CANNOT GO THERE AND TELL THEM, OH, I WANT YOU TO MEET TODAY'S CODE UNLESS THEY'RE DOING MORE THAN 50% REMODEL OF THAT BUILDING.
SO I CAN'T GO THERE BECAUSE THE ROOF IS LEAKING, CAUSED MOLD.
I CAN SAY, OH, NOW YOU HAVE TO COMPLY WITH TODAY'S CODE AND CHANGE YOUR WHOLE SYSTEM AND ADD VENTILATION AND DO ALL THAT.
THAT WOULD BE NICE, BUT WE CANNOT DO THAT.
IT'S NOT RETROACTIVE ON EXISTING BUILDINGS.
AS LONG AS WHEN THEY WERE BUILT, THEY MET THE CODE AT THAT TIME, THEN THEY'RE ACTUALLY LEGAL.
SO AGAIN, GOOD POINT, BUT IT'S COVERED WHEN WE ADOPT ALL THE NEW CODES ANYWAYS AS WE GO.
OKAY, CHANGING, YES, WE, WE ARE WORKING ON THOSE ALREADY AND WE SHOULD BE ADOPTING ALL THE I C C CODES PLUS THIS CODE ROUGHLY THE SAME TIME, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT TOWARDS THE END.
SO, OKAY, SO ONE OF THE MAJOR CHANGES THAT WE DID WITH PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE WHILE BACK IS IN 2011, THAT WAS THE MAJOR ONE, THE MAIN ONE THAT WE DID.
AND AT THAT, THAT TIME, WE TOOK BASICALLY THE I C C CODE, AND THAT'S WHEN WE START WORKING WITH IT.
AND THEN AGAIN IN 2015 AND 2018 AND NOW SHOULD BE 2021.
BUT DUE TO COVID, WE GOT DELAYED YEAR AND A HALF, SO WE DIDN'T MEET, BECAUSE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT CODES, YOU DON'T WANNA DO IT ON WEBEX.
I MEAN, FOR THOSE WHO WERE HERE, YOU SAW THE DISCUSSION AND NEGOTIATION AND ALL THAT.
AND, UH, SO YOU WANNA, IT'S, IT'S MUCH EASIER IN PERSON, EVEN IN PERSON.
BUT IMAGINE DOING THAT ON WEBEX, RIGHT? IT'S A DAILY ACTIVITY.
IT'S, IT'S A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY THOUGH, RIGHT? TAKES CONSTANT.
ALL RIGHT, SO AGAIN, I, I THINK I STARTED WITH THAT.
I SAID THANK YOU FOR THE, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO, WHO KIND OF VOLUNTEERED FOR THIS AND PUT THEIR, THEIR TIME IN IT.
IT WAS, AS I SAID, LIKE A, A TEDIOUS, UH, PROCESS JUST GOING THROUGH EVERY SECTION, ALMOST EVERY ITEM, EVERY CHANGE AND DISCUSS THAT.
SO JUST TO TALK ABOUT THE, THE COMMITTEE THAT WE HAD.
SO IN OUR CODE, BASICALLY YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS THE BUILDING STANDARD BOARD COMMITTEE OR BOARD MEMBER, SORRY, UH, ONE OF YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES IS TO HELP US REVIEW AND ADOPT THE NEW CODES.
SO YOU'RE LIKE MORE AS AN ADVISORY BOARD TO US.
SO IN THE RULES WHICH WE FOLLOWED, WE FOLLOW EVERY RULE.
IT SAYS BASICALLY TO GET SOME OF YOU TO HELP US WITH REVIEWING THIS CODE.
SO EVERY THREE YEARS WE'RE GONNA DO THAT.
AND WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST.
THIS TIME I GOT 10 MEMBERS WHO VOLUNTEERED THEIR TIME TO DO IT.
SO IT WAS LIKE ALMOST THE MAJORITY OF THE, THE TEAM HERE, YOU KNOW, NORMALLY WE GET, YOU KNOW, THREE, FOUR OR FIVE MAYBE MAX.
UH, BUT THIS TIME WE HAVE 10 OUT OF THE TECHNICALLY 14 BOARD MEMBERS, WHICH IS GOOD.
NOW, IN OUR RULES FOR THE, THE B S B, BASICALLY WE DON'T HAVE A REQUIREMENT OR A RULE TO ADD ANY OTHER MEMBERS TO IT, BUT WE JUST WANT IT TO BE FOR THE TRANSPARENCY.
AND WE WANTED TO GET MORE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY BASED ON THE BUILDING CODES THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IN CHAPTER 10.
THAT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT CHAPTER.
THAT'S, UH, IN REGARDS TO THE BUILDING CODES, BUILDING RELATED CODES.
AND THAT CHAPTER, IT SAYS, WHEN YOU WANNA CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE TO REVIEW THE CODES, YOU CAN ADD FOUR MEMBERS THAT THEY ARE NOT BOARD MEMBERS TO YOUR COMMITTEE.
THEY CANNOT VOTE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT APPOINTED TO THAT BOARD, BUT THEY CAN ACTUALLY HAVE ALL THE DISCUSSION THEY NEED.
THEY CAN BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION AND KIND OF THE CHAIR OF THAT COMMITTEE WILL GET SOME CONSENSUS.
SOMETIMES IF THEY CAN'T REACH CONSENSUS, OBVIOUSLY THE VOTES OF THE MEMBERS WILL COUNT AT THAT POINT.
SO AGAIN, WE HAD, WE ASKED FOR IT, WE HAD A MEETING, WE, WE MENTIONED THAT AND WE WERE, I WAS GLAD THAT I SAW 29
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CITIZENS WHO APPLIED BASICALLY TO BE ON, ON THIS BOARD.THE HARD PART WAS HOW TO SELECT FOUR OUTTA THE 29.
WE CAN'T HAVE ALL 29 ON ON THE COMMITTEE.
SO THE CHAIR WITH THE, WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS, BASICALLY THEY TOOK THOSE NAMES WITH THEIR QUALIFICATIONS.
UM, SOME OF THEM ATTENDED AND THEY CAME, SPOKE FOR A MINUTE OR TWO, EXPLAINED WHO THEY ARE, THEIR KNOWLEDGE, THEIR SKILLS, WHY THEY WANT TO BE ON IT.
SO THAT HELPED THE BOARD MEMBERS TO DECIDE.
THEN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BOARD MEMBERS VOTED AND THEY SELECTED THE FOUR LISTED HERE.
AND AGAIN, I WANNA THANK THOSE FOUR MEMBERS AS WELL.
AS I SAID, LIKE EVERYBODY ON THE LIST HERE REALLY PUT A LOT OF HOURS INTO THIS.
UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK WE SPEND OVER 400 MAN HOURS IF YOU WANNA CALL IT THAT, ON, ON, ON THIS CHANGE.
SO AGAIN, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S HELP.
SO HERE'S A QUICK, UM, BASICALLY TIMELINE.
SO BEFORE WE STARTED THE PROCESS, WE DID TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS JUST TO MENTION TO ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING, WHAT ARE WE DOING? WE GAVE THEM TIMELINE, EXPLAINED THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, AS I MENTIONED, WE SELECTED THE COMMITTEE WITH THE FOUR NON-VOTING MEMBERS AND WE STARTED MEETINGS.
EACH ONE WAS THREE HOURS, SOMETIMES A LITTLE BIT OVER.
SO FROM ONE TO THREE, ROUGHLY ON FRIDAYS, WE DID THOSE MEETINGS.
UH, AND THEN AFTER WE FINISHED ALL THOSE MEETINGS AND WRAPPED UP, WE DID FOUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS, TWO IN PERSON AND TWO VIRTUAL IN DIFFERENT DAYS TO ALLOW THE COMMUNITY AND CITIZENS TO ATTEND IF THEY CAN.
AND AGAIN, SOME PEOPLE EITHER THEY CANNOT MAKE IT TO OUR BUILDING OR THEY JUST FINISH WORK AND THEY CAN'T, AGAIN, THERE IS NOT ENOUGH TIME TO COME.
SO THAT'S WHY WE DID THE VIRTUAL ONES.
SO THAT'S OVERALL WHAT WE DID.
AND AS I SAID, LIKE WHEN I TALKED ABOUT THE 400 HOURS, I JUST LOOKED AT THE EIGHT MEETINGS WE HAD JUST THOSE, BECAUSE AGAIN, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, BUT THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS, THEY WERE EIGHT AND EACH ONE WAS THREE HOURS.
AND THEN AGAIN, WE HAD THE 19, UH, WE HAD THE 10 MEMBERS AND THEN WE HAD THE FOUR NON-VOTING MEMBERS AND THEN WE HAD FIVE STAFF FROM THE CITY.
EVERY MEETING YOU HAVE ONE OR TWO PEOPLE NOT HERE.
SO I JUST DID AVERAGE 17 PERSONNEL HERE AT EVERY MEETING.
THREE HOURS EACH TIMES EIGHT MEETINGS, ENDED UP WITH OVER 400 HOURS.
SO AGAIN, IT'S A LOT OF HOURS, BUT REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU GUYS DID.
SO BASICALLY THE, THE COMMITTEE, UM, I GUESS THE COMMITTEE HEARD 83 PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TOTAL, 20 OF THOSE, UH, WERE INTERNAL.
AND TECHNICALLY WHEN I'M SAYING INTERNAL, WE PRESENTED THOSE AS THE CITY, BUT THEY WERE NOT CHANGES OR AMENDMENTS THAT WE WANTED TO DO PHYSICALLY OURSELF.
BUT WE REVIEWED, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE REVIEWED THE 2021 INTERNATIONAL CODE AND WE FOUND THE CHANGES AND WE CAME BACK TO THE COMMITTEE AND SAID, HERE'S THE CHANGES, HERE'S OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
SOME OF THEM WE RECOMMENDED TO APPROVE.
SOME OF THEM WE RECOMMENDED TO DENY NOT TO ADOPT THEM.
SOME OF THEM ACTUALLY WE JUST OPENED IT FOR DISCUSSION FOR THE COMMITTEE BECAUSE WE WERE LIKE, WE ARE ON THE EDGE OF THIS, IT, IT SEEMS IT NEEDS MORE DISCUSSION.
SO 24 OF THOSE, AGAIN INTERNAL, WHICH IS PART OF THE 2021 CODE 59 WERE EXTERNAL.
AFTER WE RECEIVED ALL THOSE, WHEN WE START GOING THROUGH THEM ONE BY ONE, WE NOTICED THERE WAS 17, UH, AMENDMENTS.
THEY WERE VERY LIKE, NOT VERY, THEY'RE IDENTICAL WORD FOR WORD.
SO TWO PEOPLE SUBMITTED EXACTLY THE SAME CHANGE WORD FOR WORD.
SO OBVIOUSLY IF YOU WANNA SAY UNIQUE AMENDMENTS OR CHANGES OR PROPOSALS THAT WERE RECEIVED, WE GOT 66.
SO THOSE ARE REALLY THE, THE ONES I GONNA GO OVER TODAY, 66 PROPOSALS.
JUST TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE DID AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, RECOMMENDED 28 OF THEM FOR APPROVAL AND RECOMMENDED 38 OF THOSE, UH, FOR DENIAL.
AND AGAIN, THE REASON WHY I'M SAYING RECOMMENDED, BECAUSE REMEMBER THE SUBCOMMITTEE DID THEIR WORK.
ALL WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS RECOMMENDING TO THE FULL BOARD.
NOW WHAT THEY FOUND, THE NEXT STEP IS THE BOARD WILL DECIDE, DO WE TAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE OR DO WE WANNA CHANGE ANYTHING? YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT.
WHATEVER COMES OUT OF THIS BOARD THEN GOES TO CITY COUNCIL AS RECOMMENDATIONS.
AGAIN, THE PERSON OR THE ENTITY THAT APPROVES IT IS COUNCIL.
SO ALL WHAT WE DO IS WE JUST COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, TAKE IT TO COUNCIL WHEN COUNCIL VOTES ON IT AND SAYS THIS IS IT.
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APPROVED OR DENIED PHYSICALLY OVER THERE, NOT RECOMMENDED ANYMORE.WE RECEIVED FOUR, UH, WE CALL IT NO ACTION ITEMS, JUST GENERAL COMMENTS THAT THEY NEED TO BE READ TO THE RECORD AND THE CHAIR, READ THOSE TO THE RECORD AGAIN.
BUT THERE WAS NO ACTION NEEDED ON THOSE.
HERE'S A QUICK BREAKDOWN TO HELP YOU GUYS, UH, WITH THOSE.
SO AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SEVEN CHAPTERS IN THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE MAJORITY OF THE RECOMMENDED OR PROPOSALS CAME TECHNICALLY FOUR CHAPTER 1 49.
OF THOSE 66, THEY WERE IN CHAPTER ONE.
CHAPTER ONE IS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, FIVE, SIX PAGES.
AND YOU HAVE 49 RECOMMENDED CHANGES, WHICH IS GOOD BECAUSE THAT'S THE SCOPE AND ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, OR ADMINISTRATION PART, WHICH IS I GUESS THE HEART OF THE CODE, RIGHT? THE SECOND ONE, UH, SECOND CHAPTER IS THE DEFINITIONS.
WE HAD 12 DEFINITIONS, EITHER, YOU KNOW, MODIFICATIONS RECOMMENDED TO MODIFY OR ADDED SOME.
THEN, UH, CHAPTER THREE, WE DID NOT GET ANY.
CHAPTER FOUR WE HAD ONE AND THAT'S IN REGARDS TO UH, LIGHT VENTILATION, OCCUPANCY.
AND THEN FIVE SIX, WE DIDN'T GET ANY.
UH, AND THEN THERE WAS THREE OF THEM THAT KIND OF DON'T FIT SPECIFIC CHAPTER.
IT MIGHT BE KIND OF MORE THE OVERALL, BUT IT WASN'T SPECIFIC TO A SECTION OR TO A CHAPTER.
SO IF YOU TOTAL THOSE, THAT THOSE ARE THE 66 THAT WE RECEIVED, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WHO SUBMITTED AMENDMENTS, AGAIN, IT, IT HELPS SOMETIMES TO KNOW WHO, WHO SUBMITTED THOSE.
SO WE HAD FIVE EXTERNAL ENTITIES, IF YOU WILL.
I MEAN YOU HAVE THE NAME OF THE PERSON WHO SUBMITTED, BUT THEN WHAT ORGANIZATION THEY ARE UH, REPRESENTING.
SO TECHNICALLY WE HAD FIVE ORGANIZATIONS THAT SUBMITTED SOME CHANGES.
UM, THOSE 59 UH, AMENDMENTS THAT THEY SUBMITTED, BUT AGAIN, 17 WERE IDENTICAL.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, UH, THE CITY STAFF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, WE, WE PROPOSED THOSE 24, UH, BASED ON THE 2021 CODE.
SO NOW GETTING INTO IT, SO WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS GO THROUGH THE APPROVED AMENDMENTS OR RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL FIRST, THEN GO THROUGH, THERE WAS FEW OF THEM THAT THEY WERE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL WITH MODIFICATIONS AND THOSE EQUATE TO THE 28 TOTAL APPROVED.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE 38 THAT THEY'RE, UH, RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL.
I'LL GO THROUGH THOSE AT THE END.
SO AGAIN, SOME OF THOSE ARE EASY AND, AND AND MAINLY THEY WERE JUST TO CLARIFY, UM, THE CODE A LITTLE BIT OR JUST TO ADOPT THE NEW CODE WHERE IT DID NOT CHANGE REALLY THE CODE OR THE PROCESS.
SO THE FIRST ONE, SECTION 1 0 1, BASICALLY IT WAS JUST THE TITLE OF THAT SECTION.
THEY CHANGED IT FROM GENERAL TO SCOPE AND GENERAL REQUIREMENTS.
SO AGAIN, IT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL 1 0 1 0.3.
UH, BASICALLY AGAIN, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS UH, TO KEEP THE AMENDMENT.
SO BASICALLY TO KEEP THE 2018 CODE CHANGES THAT WE DID IN 2018 AND THEN, UH, ADOPT THE LANGUAGE IN BOLD HERE, THE BOLDED LANGUAGE, WE ADDED THAT TO THE CODE.
SO THE, IT WAS APPROVED TO TAKE THAT.
THE CHANGE IN 2018 WAS BASICALLY THE INTERNATIONAL CODE DOES NOT SAY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT ALL WHAT IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, PUT YOUR DEPARTMENT THAT CAN ENFORCE THIS, YOU KNOW, CODE ENFORCEMENT OR UH, CODE COMPLIANCE OR WHATEVER.
SO IN 2018 WE ADDED BASICALLY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
SO NOW WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS LEAVE THAT BECAUSE WE STILL WANT IT TO CALL TO BE CALLED DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, BUT THEN AGAIN, TAKE THE ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT KIND OF EXPLAINS A LITTLE BIT THE FUNCTION OF THE AGENCY.
AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT CHANGING THE PROCESS, IT'S JUST CLARIFYING WHAT WE DO HERE.
THE THIRD UH, UM, AMENDMENT OR PROPOSAL WAS UH, WAS NOT IN THE CURRENT CODE, DOESN'T EXIST IN THE CURRENT CODE AND IT IS IN THE NEW CODE.
BASICALLY IT TALKS ABOUT THE STRUCTURE ANALYSIS AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST DEFINING THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND BASICALLY STATING THAT YOU USE THE NOMINAL STRENGTH AND THE NOMINAL LOADS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH ANY STRUCTURE ENGINEER WILL BE USING THAT.
BUT IT WAS NOT DEFINED IN THE 2018 CODE.
THE 2021 HAD THAT BASICALLY LISTED AND WE FELT IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE ADDED.
AGAIN, IT'S NOT CHANGING THE PROCESS, BUT IT'S, IT'S TO CLARIFY WHAT WHAT IS, UH, BASICALLY A STRUCTURE ANALYSIS.
THE NEXT 1, 1 0 3, UH, AGAIN IN 2018 WE CALLED THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, WHICH THAT'S WHO WE ARE.
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NEW CODE TALKED ABOUT CODE COMPLIANCE AGENCY.THE BOARD RECOMMENDED TO KEEP THE 20 18 1 0 3 0.1.
UM, AGAIN, IT'S SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO THAT.
WE DID CHANGE THE NAME OF THE DEPARTMENT IN 2018, SO WE ARE SAYING TO KEEP IT, BUT THEN THEY CHANGED A LITTLE BIT.
THE TITLE INSTEAD OF GENERAL, THEY CALL IT CREATION OF AGENCY.
AND THEN THEY ADDED, UH, SOME VERBIAGE A LITTLE BIT HERE.
BUT AGAIN, AS I STATED, IT'S NOT CHANGING MUCH, IT'S JUST TALKING ABOUT THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THE AGENCY, YOU KNOW, SHALL BE IMPLEMENTATION, ADMINISTRATIVE AND ENFORCEMENT OF THIS PROVISION.
SO AGAIN, IT'S JUST CLARIFYING THE DUTIES THAT WE NEED TO DO.
SO THE BOARD RECOMMENDED TO BASICALLY ADOPT THE 2021 WITH KEEPING THE NAME OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT THE FOLLOWING ONE, UH, 1 0 3 0.3 BASICALLY, UM, THE 2021, UH, IS BASICALLY ADDING A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THE CODE IN REGARDS TO DEPUTIES BASICALLY.
SO YOU ALWAYS HAVE A CODE OFFICIAL, UH, DESIGNATED, BUT OBVIOUSLY THE CODE OFFICIAL CAN, UM, DESIGNATE THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
SO THE 2021 BASICALLY WAS TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THAT AND SAYING CODE OFFICIALS OR, UH, RELATED TECHNICAL, UH, OFFICERS, INSPECTORS OR, AND OTHER EMPLOYEES.
SO WE FELT NOT JUST US, BASICALLY THE BOARD FELT THAT IT'S KIND OF LIMITING WHO THE CODE OFFICIAL CAN ASSIGN.
SO MICHAEL SHANNON IS THE CODE OFFICIAL HERE, WHO HE GONNA DESIGNATE IN HIS PLACE TO DO CERTAIN THINGS.
SO WE KEPT IT AS THE 2018 AND PROBABLY, I'M JUST GONNA GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM.
IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, MAYBE WRITE THE SECTION.
I THINK THAT WAY WE CAN JUST GO KEEP WITH THE FLOW I GUESS.
'CAUSE I DUNNO, SOME OF THEM MIGHT BE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION, MIGHT TAKE FOREVER.
SO I WANT TO JUST FINISH MY PRESENTATION.
IT'S TOO LATE, IT'S TOO NOTHING.
UM, IT'S BASICALLY TALKING ABOUT FEES.
UM, IN THE 2018 CODE, THERE WAS A SECTION IN THAT 1 0 3 0.5.
WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT FEES, IT SAYS REFERENCE TO, UH, BASICALLY A SCHEDULE.
WE NEVER HAD A SCHEDULE IN THE BOOK EVEN THE INTERNATIONAL DOESN'T HAVE A SCHEDULE.
IF, IF YOU DECIDE TO PUT A FEE STRUCTURE OR FEE TABLE IN THE CODE, THEY REFERENCE THAT.
SO BASICALLY IN 2018 WE REMOVED THAT AND WE ARE MAINTAINING THAT.
BUT THE TITLE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT TO DIFFERENT SECTION AND IT JUST CALLED FEES.
AND IT TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE FEES ARE ESTABLISHED BY THE APPLICABLE GOVERNMENT, UH, AUTHORITY.
SO AGAIN, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADOPT THE NEW 2021, BUT KEEPING THE, THE CHART OR THE SCHEDULE OF THE BOOK, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT, THE NEXT TWO ARE NEW.
BASICALLY THEY WERE NOT IN THE EXISTING CODE.
THE FIRST ONE IS, AGAIN, THEY COMPLETELY ADDED THE SECTION 1 0 4 COLD FEES.
AGAIN, WE DIDN'T HAVE A FULL SECTION WITH THAT.
UH, SO IT'S JUST A MINOR CHANGE WITH THE ORGANIZATION OF THE CHAPTER.
AND THEN THEY ADDED UNDER THAT TWO SUBSECTIONS.
ONE IS 1 0 4 0.1, WHICH THAT WAS EXACTLY WHAT WAS IN THE CODE, BUT THEN THEY ADDED 1 0 4 0.2.
AGAIN, WE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE DONE ANY REFUND, BUT WE HAVE POLICY ALREADY IN OUR BOOKS.
IF SOMEBODY DESERVE A REFUND AND THEY APPLY FOR IT, SAY, I NEED THIS REFUND AND IT'S JUSTIFIED, WE DO REFUND THE MONEY, BUT AGAIN, IT WASN'T WRITTEN.
SO NOW, AND THE 2021 CODE, THEY ADDED THAT AND WE ADOPTED THAT BASICALLY, OR RECOMMENDED I SAY ADOPTED, WE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR THAT 1 0 7 0.1.
UM, BASICALLY THIS ONE HERE IS, UM, IN REGARDS TO NOTICES AND THE 2021 CODE TALKS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, AGAIN, MODIFYING THE NA, THE, THE PERSON WHO IS RESPONSIBLE, RIGHT? SO INSTEAD OF THAT, THEY'RE SAYING THEY'RE GONNA DO OWNER OR OWNERS AUTHORIZED AGENT.
UH, THE COMMITTEE FELT THAT'S A LITTLE BIT RESTRICTIVE.
SO AGAIN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE OWNER OR OWNER REP OR WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE OR THE TENANT.
SO WHOEVER THAT PERSON IS, THE CODE AND THE NOTICES NEED TO GO TO THE PERSON WHO IS RESPONSIBLE, NOT NECESSARILY JUST THE OWNER OR OWNER, AUTHORIZED AGENT.
SO THAT'S WHY WE, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO KEEP THE 2018 AS IS WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE RESPONSIBLE PERSON, BASICALLY 1 0 8, 1 0 8 0.1.
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UM, THIS SECTION HERE, AGAIN, THEY JUST KIND OF CHANGED THE TITLE, UH, AND THE LOCATION.SO IT WAS 1 0 8 0.1 WITH KIND OF REALLY NO TITLE, IF YOU WILL.
IT'S UNDER A MAJOR TITLE WITH 1 0 8.
BUT THEN THEY CHANGED IT TO ONE 11.1 AND THEY CHANGED THE WORD GENERAL TO, UH, UNSAFE CONDITIONS.
SO IT WAS APPROVED TO BE ADOPTED AS, AS 2021.
OKAY, THIS, THIS SECTION HERE, AGAIN, IT TALKS ABOUT THE ABATEMENT METHODS AND IT TALKS ABOUT THE OWNER OR OPERATOR OR OCCUPANT OF THE BUILDING, BASICALLY, UH OH, I'M SORRY, YEAH.
TALKS ABOUT THE ABATEMENT METHOD, BUT IT'S TALKING ABOUT THE EQUIPMENT THAT IS DEEMED TO BE, UH, DANGEROUS IF, IF ANY EQUIPMENT THAT MALFUNCTION, UH, IT'S DEEMED TO BE DANGEROUS OR THREAT TO THE PUBLIC.
IN 2021, THEY KIND OF ADDED A LITTLE BIT MORE AND THEY START GETTING INTO MORE DETAILS ON THAT.
AND WHEN WE HAD DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, UH, AGAIN, THE BOARD DID NOT WANNA LIMIT THIS TO, IF YOU LOOK ON THE BOTTOM, IT TALKS ABOUT THE EXTENT OF REPAIRS, ALTERATION OR ADDITIONS.
UH, SO THEY FELT THAT WHAT WE HAVE TODAY ALREADY IS INCLUDED HERE.
UH, SO THERE WAS NO NEED TO ADOPT THE MORE SPECIFIC SECTIONS.
AND AGAIN, UH, WITH THIS CODE, UH, WE HAVE CHAPTER EIGHT IN THE CODE.
I EARLIER SAID WE HAVE ONLY SEVEN CHAPTERS, BUT CHAPTER EIGHT IS REALLY A REFERENCE.
IT JUST LISTS ALL THE OTHER BUILDING AND FIRE CODES AND MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING, WHICH CODES WE ARE UNDER WHEN WE ADOPT THIS CODE.
SO IF WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THEM, WE ARE STATING HERE THAT YOU CANNOT GO BACK TO THOSE CODES AND LOOK AT THEM.
ONE OF THEM IS THE INTERNATIONAL EXISTING BUILDING CODE.
SO AGAIN, THE ADDITIONS IN 21 DID NOT REALLY CHANGE WHAT WE HAVE AND THE BOARD SAID TO KEEP WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
UH, BASICALLY THIS ONE IS REFERENCING THE APPEAL PROCESS.
THE APPEAL PROCESS IS IN OUR CHAPTER SIX TODAY.
UH, WHAT 2021 CODE TALKS ABOUT IS IT'S TALKING ABOUT THE QUALIFICATIONS, BASICALLY TO HAVE A BOARD OF APPEAL THAT SHALL, SHALL BE CONSISTENT OF MEMBERS WHO ARE QUALIFIED AND SO FORTH.
WE ALREADY HAVE A B S B BOARD FOR THIS, AND IT'S ALREADY OUTLINED IN CHAPTER SIX.
SO THERE WAS NO NEED TO ADOPT WHAT THEY'RE SAYING 'CAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE THE BOARD AND IT'S ALREADY OUTLINED IN, IN OUR CHAPTER SIX.
SO REMEMBER I SAID THE 2021 CODE, OR ANY CODE THAT COMES OUT FROM I C C IS AN INTERNATIONAL CODE.
AND THEY PUT, UH, A LOT OF RULES IN IT TO COVER EVERYTHING, EVERY ITEM THAT THEY THINK OF.
SO AGAIN, WE JUST MAINTAINED WHAT WE HAVE.
THE NEXT ITEM IS, AGAIN, VERY SIMILAR TO THAT.
UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP TWO, ONE OF THEM WAS THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THE BOARD.
THE OTHER ONE WAS THE ADMINISTRATION.
SO AGAIN, THOSE ITEMS ARE IN CHAPTER SIX.
AND WE, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO KEEP WHAT WE HAVE.
'CAUSE WE DON'T WANNA CHANGE CHAPTER SIX, WHERE IT OUTLINES ALREADY THE B S P N, THEIR DUTIES 1 12, 1 12 0.1.
BASICALLY, INSTEAD OF SAYING WHENEVER THE CODE OFFICIAL FINDS ANY WORK, IT SAYS, WHERE, UM, I PERSONALLY DON'T KNOW EXACTLY THE DIFFERENCE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE COMMITTEE DECIDED TO TAKE IT AND, AND ADOPT THE NEW 1, 1 12 0.2, UH, ISSUANCE, UH, A STOP WORK ORDER, BASICALLY, UH, WHEN THEY ARE IN VIOLATION.
AGAIN, THE CHANGE IN 2021, UH, WAS INSTEAD OF JUST A STOP WORK ORDER, IT SAYS THE STOP WORK ORDER.
SO AGAIN, WE TOOK THAT AND IN THE BODY OF IT WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA ISSUE BASICALLY A STOP WORK ORDER TO THE PERSON WHO'S DOING THE WORK.
THE NEW CODE OR THE 21 CODE TALKS ABOUT PERFORMING THE WORK INSTEAD OF DOING.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, IN MY MIND, IT DID NOT CHANGE THE OPERATION THAT WE HAVE.
IT JUST MAY BE BETTER, UH, WRITTEN.
SO IT WAS RECOMMENDED TO ADOPT IT, ADOPT THE 2021.
UH, SECTION 2 0 2 BASICALLY IS DEFINITIONS.
UM, WE DID NOT HAVE A DEFINITION FOR EMERGENCY ESCAPE AND RESCUE OPENINGS IN THE 2018 CODE.
AND THEY ADDED THAT IN THE 2021 CODE.
THAT SECTION IS BASICALLY IN CHAPTER SEVEN, WHICH IS THE FIRE, RIGHT, IN RELATION WITH FIRES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
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BUT THEY NEVER HAD THE DEFINITION.AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO OBVIOUSLY TAKE THAT DEFINITION SO EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT EMERGENCY ESCAPE AND RESCUE OPENING IS.
UH, THIS SECTION HERE, UM, AGAIN, I THINK I KIND OF TOUCHED ON THIS A LITTLE BIT, AND THE 2018 CODE THAT TALKS ABOUT CHAPTER EIGHT, THAT HAS ALL THE REFERENCES OF ALL THE OTHER CODES.
SO IF YOU NEED ANYTHING, IF, IF SOMETHING IS NOT DEFINED IN THIS CODE, BUT IT IS DEFINED IN THE OTHER I C C CODES, BASICALLY IT'S SAYING TO GO TO THOSE, AND THOSE ARE LISTED IN CHAPTER EIGHT.
SO WE KIND OF ALREADY HAVE THAT.
THE 2021 IS SAYING THE SAME THING, BUT THEY'RE OUTLINING THAT IN, IN THE SECTION HERE, I'M TALKING ABOUT WHICH CODES YOU NEED TO GO TO.
THE COMMITTEE FELT TO MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE BECAUSE WE CREATED THAT CHAPTER EIGHT IN THE BOOK.
AGAIN, THE INTERNATIONAL CODE DOESN'T HAVE THAT.
SO WE HAVE THAT AND WE DON'T WANNA JUST TAKE WHAT THEY HAVE HERE BECAUSE WHAT THEY MENTION HERE IS JUST THE CODE ITSELF, BUT THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T TELL YOU WHAT YEAR.
AND AGAIN, AS I SAID, WHEN WE ADOPT A CODE, WE WANNA KNOW WHICH YEAR WE ARE ADOPTING.
'CAUSE I DON'T WANNA GO 20 YEARS FROM NOW AND REFERENCE BACK TO INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE FROM 20 YEARS AGO, RIGHT? SO I WANT TO REFERENCE THE CODE THAT WE ARE ADOPTING AT THAT TIME.
SO THAT'S WHY WE, THE BOARD FELT THAT, UH, THE 2021 IS NOT CLEAR ABOUT THAT.
SO THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO KEEP THE 20 18 7 0 2 0.4, UM, TALKS ABOUT THE EMERGENCY ESCAPE OPENINGS.
REMEMBER WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE DEFINITION.
THEY ADDED DEFINITION IN CHAPTER SE AND CHAPTER TWO, BUT THAT SECTION IS IN CHAPTER SEVEN.
SO AGAIN, IN THE PAST IT WAS CALLED EMERGENCY ESCAPE OPENINGS ONLY.
THE NEW CODE EXPLAINS IT AS EMERGENCY ESCAPE AND RESCUE OPENINGS.
AND THEY DID ADD A LITTLE BIT OF A SMALL SECTION ABOUT THE SMOKE ALARMS THAT THEY'RE INSTALLED IN THE CODE BASED ON THE 9 0 7 SECTION AND OF THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE.
SO AGAIN, IT'S CLARIFYING EXACTLY WHAT'S NEEDED.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADOPT THE 2021 CODE.
UH, AGAIN, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT SECTION ONE 11 A LITTLE, AND YOU'RE GONNA SEE WE ARE KIND OF BOUNCING A LITTLE BIT BETWEEN THEM.
UH, BUT, UH, SO SECTION ONE 11 AGAIN TALKS ABOUT THE APPEAL PROCESS, AS WE MENTIONED IT IS IN CHAPTER SIX.
AND I'LL TALK ABOUT BOTH OF THOSE BECAUSE THEY'RE KIND OF THE SAME.
WE RECEIVED TWO DIFFERENT, UH, PROPOSALS BASICALLY, UH, FOR, FOR THIS.
AND DANNY, I NEED YOUR HELP ON THIS.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED HERE? TRYING TO REMEMBER.
I THINK DANNY'S PULLING THE INFORMATION FROM HIS NOTES.
SO AS MANY MENTIONED, WE ALREADY HAVE A APPELLATE PROCESS SPELLED OUT IN CHAPTER SIX OF THE CITY CODE.
FOR SOME REASON I DIDN'T SEE, YOU KNOW, KEEP IT AS WRITTEN AND I WAS LIKE, WHY WE ARE ADOPTING 21.
SO WE JUST, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THIS AGAIN,
SO WE RECEIVED MULTIPLE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CHANGE IT AND THE BOARD WAS LIKE, NO, KEEP WHAT WE HAVE.
AND I WAS LIKE, WHY DID WE DO THAT? OKAY, SORRY.
AND IT, IT ALSO WAS GOING TO CAUSE US TO HAVE TO REWRITE SOME ADDITIONAL CODE ISSUES.
SO IT WAS, WE WANTED TO KEEP IT AS WRITTEN WITHOUT HAVING TO MAKE MAJOR, UH, CHANGES TO THE TOTAL CODE.
UM, BASICALLY THAT SECTION, UM, UH, OKAY, SO WE RECEIVED, UM, LET, LEMME STEP BACK.
OUR PROCESS, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, WE ALWAYS TRY TO WORK WITH THE CITIZEN AND WE TRY TO GET THEM TO REPAIR THE STRUCTURE AND BEFORE WE BRING IT TO YOU, NORMALLY THE PROCESS IS BETWEEN SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR AND A HALF BEFORE WE BRING IT TO THE B SS B BOARD FOR RECOMMENDED DEMOLITION.
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TO US, DEMOLITION IS THE LAST RESORT.BUT AGAIN, IT'S NOT IN THE CODE, IT'S NOT CODIFIED, IT'S SOMETHING WE DO.
WE ENFORCE ALL OF US FROM THE TOP DOWN.
SO AGAIN, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADD THAT IN THE LANGUAGE.
AND AGAIN, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS WE ARE DOING IT ANYWAYS, BUT PUT IT THERE BECAUSE THE FEAR WAS OKAY, NOW WE KNOW MIKE SHANNON IS HERE, HE'S THE CO OFFICIAL AND THAT'S WHAT HE WANTS TO DO.
IF HE LEAVES, ARE THEY GONNA DO THE SAME THING? SO THAT'S WHY THIS PROPOSAL WAS THERE.
AND THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO APPROVE IT, TO ADD THAT LANGUAGE IN BOLD HERE WHERE IT SAYS, HOWEVER, DEMO MILIANS AND REMOVAL, UH, SHALL BE RE UH, REGARDED AS THE REMEDY OF LAST RESORT, UH, 1 0 7 0.3.
IT TALKS ABOUT THE NOTICES BASICALLY.
AND IT DOES LIST FEW BULLET ITEMS, UH, IN THE EXISTING CODE.
IT DOES LIST LIKE THREE BULLET ITEMS. IF YOU SEE HERE, YOU KNOW, SENDING THE NOTICE, DELIVERING IN PERSON OR SENDING IT IN THE MAIL AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THE 2021 CODE HAS, UH, AGAIN, MODIFIED, UH, OR I'M SORRY, THE, NOT THE 21, THE PERSON WHO, WHO PRESENTED THIS TO US OR SEND THIS PROPOSAL TO US, THEY WANTED TO ADD OR MODIFY A LITTLE BIT, UH, SECTION TWO WHERE WE SEND THE CERTIFIED MAIL.
AND THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR THAT WE ARE SENDING IT TO THE MAILING ADDRESS THAT IT APPEARS IN BCAT, BAYAR COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT RECORDS.
SO NORMALLY WHAT WE DO IS, AGAIN, WHEN WE SEND A NOTICE, OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO SEND A NOTICE TO THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY.
ONE OF THE RESOURCES WE HAVE, WHICH EVERYBODY HAS, IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, IS, UH, BCA BEAR COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT.
WE GO THERE, WE PLUG THE ADDRESS, TELLS YOU WHO THE OWNER IS, SOMETIMES NOT, SOMETIMES EVERY SINGLE TIME.
IT GIVES YOU THE OWNER AND THE ADDRESS, THAT PHYSICAL ADDRESS OF THAT LOCATION.
BUT BELOW THAT, SOMETIMES IT GIVES YOU A MAILING ADDRESS.
SO I MIGHT HAVE A PROPERTY, BUT I DON'T LIVE AT IT.
SO IT'S GONNA GIMME THE TWO ADDRESSES.
OUR PROCESS IS ALWAYS, ACTUALLY, WE SEND IT TO BOTH.
WE SEND IT TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION AND WE SEND IT TO THE PROPERTY LISTED AS THE MAILING ADDRESS.
BUT AGAIN, THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE, AGAIN, THE CONCEPT IS THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING TODAY, BUT IT'S NOT WRITTEN ANYWHERE.
SO THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT'S WRITTEN HERE TO, TO MAIL IT TO THE MAILING ADDRESS.
BECAUSE IF I MAIL IT TO AN, AN ADDRESS THAT THEY DON'T LIVE AT, OBVIOUSLY THEY WILL NEVER GET THE NOTICE.
SO, WHICH MAKES SENSE, BUT THAT'S WHY WE ADDED THIS HERE AND IT WAS RECOMMENDED TO BE APPROVED 2 0 2, UH, DEFINITION OF GARBAGE.
BASICALLY, UH, THE PROPOSAL, WHICH IT'S NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, BUT IT'S SPECIFICALLY ABOUT ACCUMULATION.
AND, UH, THE DISCUSSION ON THIS, OR SOME OF IT WAS SOME, SOME PEOPLE, I GUESS, IF YOU WILL, ARE AFRAID THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WILL GO OUT AND ISSUE A NOTICE OF VIOLATION IF THEY SEE ONE CANDY WRAPPER, I WANT TO CALL IT THAT.
UH, AND OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T DO THAT.
UM, BUT WHEN WE ISSUE NOTICE OF VIOLATION FOR TRASH OR, OR GARBAGE, BASICALLY, IT'S MAINLY IF YOU HAVE A PILE OR, YOU KNOW, GOOD AMOUNT OF THAT.
RIGHT? SO BASICALLY, AGAIN, UH, THE, THE BOOK DOESN'T HAVE ANY DEFINITION OF ACCUMULATION.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION INTO THE BOOK, UH, JUST TAKE THE GENERIC DEFINITION OF ACCUMULATION, AND THAT WAY WHEN WE ISSUE A NOTICE TO A VIOLATION, IT'S REALLY NOT A CANDY WRAPPER.
IT'S, THERE IS ENOUGH, I GUESS, OF THAT GARBAGE, UM, IN THE YARD OR SOMEWHERE.
I THINK HERE, IF YOU NOTICE THE TITLE CHANGED A LITTLE.
SO NOW THOSE WERE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL WITH CHANGES.
SO WHEN WE RECEIVED THE PROPOSAL, THAT WAS DISCUSSED, BUT THE COMMITTEE SAID, WE DON'T WANNA APPROVE IT AS SUCH, AFTER DISCUSSION, THEY MODIFIED IT A LITTLE BIT AND, UH, THEN THEY APPROVED IT WITH THOSE MODIFICATIONS.
SO SECTION 1 0 7 0.2, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT, UH, AND WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE NOTICES.
BUT IN THIS SECTION WHAT HAPPENED IS THE 2021 CODE GIVES YOU SIX BULLET POINTS, AND THE PROPOSAL WAS TO ADOPT IT AS IS.
BUT THEN WHEN, UH, THE BOARD DISCUSSED THAT, UH, THEY DECIDED, IF YOU SEE BULLET NUMBER SIX INCLUDE A STATEMENT OF THE RIGHT TO FILE A LIEN IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 1 0 9 0.3.
UH, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADOPT THE 2021 CODE, BUT MINUS SECTION SIX OR ITEM SIX.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT, AGAIN, THE LIENS, UH, HAPPEN BETWEEN OUR FISCAL DEPARTMENT AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN PROCESS ALREADY
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OUTLINED.SO THERE IS NO NEED TO USE SECTION 1 0 9 0.3 HERE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MATCH WITH WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY IN PLACE.
SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS APPROVED, THE WHOLE SECTION, BUT MINUS, EXCLUDING THAT ITEM NUMBER SIX, THE NEXT ONE, AGAIN, IT'S IN REGARDS TO NOTICES OF SECTION 1 0 7 0.3.
UM, AGAIN, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO, AGAIN, THIS IS THE KIND OF THE SAME SECTION.
REMEMBER, WE, WE DIDN'T PICK ITEM NUMBER SIX, OH NO, I'M SORRY, THIS IS DIFFERENT ONE.
THIS IS THE NOTICES AND MAILING THE NOTICES AND GIVING THE NOTICES IN PERSON.
SO THEY, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO CHANGE IT, TO MAKE IT, I GUESS, GENDER NEUTRAL TO TAKE THE ADDRESS AND PUT HIS ADDRESS.
AND AGAIN, IT WAS, IT WAS APPROVED, UH, WITH THAT OR RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL WITH THAT CHANGE CHANGE.
OKAY, SECTION 1 0 8 0.4, UM, AGAIN, THIS IS STILL, UH, SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT THEY WERE APPROVED WITH SOME CHANGES.
SO THIS TALKS ABOUT THE OCCUPIED STRUCTURES, UH, DETERMINED BY THE CODE OFFICIAL.
AND, UH, THE PROPOSAL WAS, UH, LET'S SEE ON THIS ONE.
OH, OKAY, SO THE PROPOSAL HERE, UH, THE MODIFICATION THAT CAME IN, IF YOU SEE, UM, WHERE IS THAT THE WORD ORDERED HERE, IT, IT COMES IN COUPLE OF TIMES, TALKS ABOUT SHALL BE VACATED AS ORDERED BY THE CODE OFFICIAL.
AND THEN IT TALKS ABOUT FAILURE TO VACATE AS ORDERED BY THE CODE OFFICIAL.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION WAS, AGAIN, THE BUILDING OFFICIAL DOES NOT ORDER VACATE.
UH, SO THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO CHANGE THAT, THE FIRST ORDER TO NOTIFY.
AND THEN THE SECOND ORDER HERE, FAILURE TO VACATE AS DIRECTED.
SO AGAIN, THE BUILDING OFFICIAL OR THE CODE OFFICIAL DOES NOT ORDER VACATE.
SO AGAIN, IT WAS MORE AS SOON AS THE NOTIFICATION IS OUT NOTIFIED, BASICALLY.
AND THEN IF THEY FAIL TO VACATE THAT DIRECTION OR DIRECTED BY THE CODE OFFICIAL.
SO AGAIN, THAT WAS THE MODIFICATION THERE.
UH, THE NEXT 1, 2, 0 2, UM, THAT WAS A EXISTING DEFINITION IN THE CODE IMMINENT DANGER.
AND THE PROPOSAL CAME IN, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WITH ALL THAT BOLDED, UH, ITEMS, IT WAS APPROVED WITH CHANGES.
THE APPROVAL WAS TO ONLY ADD REASONABLE LIKELIHOOD OF SERIOUS.
SO JUST ADD THAT AND DON'T ADD THE REST ABOUT THE ELECTROCUTION IGNITION AND ALL THAT.
THIS IS THE WAY THE PROPOSAL CAME TO US, BUT AGAIN, IT WAS ONLY APPROVED WITH ADDING REASONABLE LIKELIHOOD OF SERIOUS AND WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY IN THE 2018.
UH, THE NEXT ONE, UH, IT'S BASICALLY DEFINITION OF COST OF SUCH DEMOLITION OR EMERGENCY REPAIRS.
UH, THE RECOMMENDATION CAME BACK WITH TECHNICALLY JUST CHANGING THE WORD DEMOLITION TO ABATEMENT.
'CAUSE AGAIN, DEMOLITION IS AN ABATEMENT, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, ANY ABATEMENT WE DO, ONE OF THEM IS DEMOLITION.
SO AGAIN, JUST TO CHANGE THAT TO SAY COST OF SUCH ABATEMENT OR EMERGENCY REPAIRS VERSUS COST OF SUCH DEMOLITION.
SO JUST THE ONE WORD, UH, WAS CHANGED THERE.
SO THAT, THAT CONCLUDES THE APPROVED OR APPROVED WITH CHANGES.
SO NOW THE, THE, THE FIRST ONE THAT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL IS SECTION 1 0 1 0.3.
AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DEBATE ABOUT THIS.
UH, WE REALLY TALKED ABOUT IT A LOT.
UM, ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT I REMEMBER, AND AGAIN, ANYBODY WHO WAS HERE CAN CHIP IN IF, IF ANY, IF ANYTHING WRONG, I SAY ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS WAS THE WORD REASONABLE HERE.
UM, IF, LET'S LOOK AT THE EXISTING CODE, IT SAYS TO PROVIDE A MINIMUM LEVEL OF HEALTH AND SAFETY, RIGHT? SO OUR CODE TODAY IS DESIGNED FOR MINIMUM HEALTH.
I MEAN, IT DOESN'T TELL YOU TO HAVE REALLY FANCY PLACE OR WHATEVER.
JUST GIVING YOU THE MINIMUM, HEY,
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TO, TO BE ABLE TO LIVE IN THIS STRUCTURE OR TO WORK IN THIS STRUCTURE.THIS IS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU NEED.
SO BASICALLY THE EXISTING CODE TALKS ABOUT MINIMUM LEVEL OF HEALTH AND SAFETY.
THE PROPOSAL WAS TALKING ABOUT TO PROVIDE A REASONABLE MINIMUM LEVEL OF HEALTH AND SAFETY.
WHO GONNA DETERMINE REASONABLE? IS IT THE BUILDING OFFICIAL? IS IT ME? IS IT THE CODE OFFICER? REASONABLE TO ME COULD BE AT THIS LEVEL, REASONABLE TO YOU COULD BE AT THIS LEVEL, BUT AGAIN, MINIMUM LEVEL OF LIFE SAFETY IS HERE.
WE ALREADY DEFINED IT IN THE CODE.
SO THAT'S WHY THIS WAS DESIGNED, UH, DENIED.
AND THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO KEEP THE EXISTING, THE NEXT 1, 1 0 2 0.4, BASICALLY.
UM, AGAIN, IF, IF YOU REMEMBER JUST A FEW SLIDES AGO, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS, UH, WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THE DEMO IS THE LAST RESORT IT WAS APPROVED THERE.
THIS IS VERY SIMILAR PROPOSAL, BUT IT'S, IT'S WRITTEN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
AND BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY APPROVED THERE, AND THIS IS DIFFERENT, AND WHEN WE DISCUSSED THAT, THEY SAID, NO, WHAT WE APPROVED IS APPROPRIATE.
SO THIS WAS RECOMMENDED FOR DENIED.
AND THAT ONE, UM, ACTUALLY, YEAH, BOTH OF THOSE, THE TWO BOTTOM ONES, 1 0 2 0.8 ARE EXACTLY THE TWO, THE SAME SECTION.
AND WE GOT TWO DIFFERENT, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS.
BUT REALLY THE, JUST OF THE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS IS TO SAY THAT, UH, BASICALLY THE BUILDING OFFICIAL WILL ASK, YOU KNOW, TO GET, UM, TO CONSULT, I GUESS WITH CIVIL ENGINEER OR WITH A LICENSED, UH, PERSON OR METRO HEALTH OR SO FORTH.
AGAIN, THAT WILL LIMIT US TO WHAT WE NEED.
WHAT WE DO TODAY IS WHEN WE GO TO A PROPERTY, IF WE NEED, LET'S SAY PD, WE CALL PD, IF WE NEED FIRE, WE CALL FIRE.
IF WE NEED THE STRUCTURE ENGINEER, WE HAVE CONTRACT WITH THE STRUCTURE ENGINEER, WE CALL THEM, THEY GO CHECK ON IT AND GIVE US REPORT.
IF WE NEED METRO HEALTH INFESTATION AND ALLOCATION, WE CALL METRO HEALTH.
SO WE DO UTILIZE ALL THE RESOURCES THAT WE CAN AND WE HAVE.
SO IF WE ONLY SPECIFICALLY SAY TO CONSULT WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, CITY ENGINEER, WHAT IF I NEED SOMETHING ELSE, YOU KNOW, OR HERE THEY'RE SAYING METRO HEALTH, SO THEY'RE GIVING ME TWO OUT OF THE 50 THAT WE USE.
IF WE CODIFY THIS WAY, THEN I CANNOT CALL OTHER PEOPLE WHEN I NEED THEM.
SO THAT'S WHY THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO KEEP WHAT WE HAVE, UH, IN THE 2018.
OKAY, THE NEXT SECTION, 1 0 3 0.3.
UM, OKAY, THIS ONE WAS MORE, UH, TOWARDS, AGAIN, THE BUILDING OFFICIAL, IF YOU WILL.
UM, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO HAVE CERTAIN QUALIFICATIONS, UM, AND TO BE BASICALLY HAVE QUALIFICATIONS THAT IS EQUAL TO A STRUCTURE ENGINEER, TOXIC CHEMICAL SPECIALIST, AND SO FORTH.
AGAIN, UM, SO HERE, HERE, THE 2018 CODE ALREADY SAYS THE CODE OFFICIAL SHALL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DELEGATE POWERS UNDER THIS CODE.
SO AGAIN, THE BUILDING OFFICIAL CAN UTILIZE ANYBODY THEY NEED DEPENDING ON THEIR QUALIFICATIONS AND WHAT, WHAT'S NEEDED IN THE FIELD.
SO THERE WAS NO NEED TO REALLY SPECIFICALLY SAY THE REQUIRED QUALIFICATIONS IS AS SUCH.
UH, SO AGAIN, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO KEEP WHAT WE HAVE.
UH, THE NEXT 1, 1 0 4 0.1, UH, THIS SECTION WAS TALKING ABOUT, BASICALLY AGAIN, THE CODE OFFICIAL HAS THE AUTHORITY TO RENDER INTERPRETATIONS OF THE CODES.
SO SOMETIMES CODES ARE GRAY FOR THOSE WHO WORK IN IT.
IT'S, IT'S KIND, ESPECIALLY IN THE BUILDING SITE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
I MEAN, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE IFFY.
IT'S LIKE, MAINLY IN MY MIND IT'S CLEAR, BUT THE BUILDING CODE, SOMETIMES IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT GRAY AND IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU READ IT DEPENDS ON YOUR INTERPRETATION.
SO BASICALLY WHAT THE CURRENT CODE SAYS IS THE BUILDING OFFICIAL HAS THE RIGHT TO INTERPRET THE CODE.
THE RECOMMENDATION WAS BASICALLY TO CHANGE THAT AND SAY THEY CANNOT DO THAT.
THEY NEED TO RECOMMEND THE POLICY CHANGES AND THEY NEED TO RECOMMEND IT TO CITY COUNCIL.
SO IF I NEED TO DO SOMETHING, MAKE A CALL ON SOMETHING TODAY, I CAN MAKE IT.
BUT IF I DO THIS, THEN I HAVE TO SEND MY RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL, WAIT FOR THEM TO MEET, GET THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO AGAIN, UH, IT WAS RECOMMENDED TO DENY THAT AND TO KEEP WHAT WE HAVE.
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UH, 1 0 6 0.4.UM, AGAIN, THE, THE, THE ONLY CHANGE THAT WAS PROPOSED IS TO ADD THIS HERE WHERE, UM, SO LET ME STEP BACK A LITTLE BIT.
SO THIS SECTION TALKS ABOUT FINES.
SO WHEN I HAVE, UH, A VIOLATION, I CAN GIVE A, A, UM, A CITATION, IF YOU WILL.
IF THEY MAINTAIN THAT VIOLATION, THEY DON'T FIX IT, WE CAN CONTINUE.
AS LONG AS THAT VIOLATION EXISTS, WE CAN ISSUE CITATIONS AND THEY ADD UP, RIGHT? SO THE KEY HERE WAS THE PERSON WHO PROPOSED THIS IS WANTED TO SAY IF IT'S A RESIDENTIAL HOUSE, WE DON'T WANNA KEEP GIVING THEM FINES.
BUT AGAIN, SO, SO THAT'S WHY THEY WANTED TO DO BASICALLY LIKE THE, THE ACCUMULATION, I GUESS, OF FINES IS ONLY FOR VACANT AND UNOCCUPIED STRUCTURE.
SO IF IT'S OCCUPIED, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT.
IT'S, IT'S VERY HARD TO DO THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS, THE, THE CODE IS ALREADY THERE.
THE JUDGE, THE CODE SYSTEM AND ALL THAT IS ALREADY IN PLACE.
AND HERE WE ARE CHANGING THAT SAYING, OKAY, I WANNA BE, BASICALLY, IT'S DISCRIMINATION IF YOU WANNA CALL IT THAT.
I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THIS PERSON ADDITIONAL FINES, BUT I WANT TO GIVE THAT PERSON ADDITIONAL FINES.
WELL, IF IT'S THE SAME VIOLATION, WHY AM I GIVING ONE PERSON A BREAK, NOT THE OTHER? SO AGAIN, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO DENY THAT AND TO MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE.
OKAY, THE NEXT SECTION, 1 0 7 0.1.
UM, IT, IT'S IN REGARDS TO, OKAY, SO BASICALLY THE RECOMMENDATION HERE, OR THE PROPOSAL WAS TO INCLUDE, UM, ORDERS TO VACATE.
SO THIS IS BASICALLY TALKING ABOUT THE VIOLATIONS AND UH, OKAY, LIKE TALKS ABOUT WHEN WE DETERMINE A VIOLATION.
SO IF WE SEE SOMETHING AND WE BELIEVE IT IS A, A VIOLATION, THEN WE DETERMINE THAT.
BUT THEN IT TALKS ABOUT TO INCLUDE ORDERS, UH, TO VACATE AS WELL.
BUT REALLY THE KEY HERE, THAT WAS NOT THE ISSUE, THE MAIN ISSUE FOR THE RECOMMENDATION TO DENIAL WAS THE 45 DAYS.
SO WE HAVE SOMETHING NOW IN THE SYSTEM HERE WHERE, WHERE IN THE CODE NOW, WHERE IT SAYS ONE YEAR.
SO IF I ISSUE A NOTICE OF VIOLATION TO A PERSON AND TWO MONTHS LATER THEY HAVE THE SAME EXACT VIOLATION BY THIS SECTION, I DON'T HAVE TO ISSUE ANOTHER NOTICE.
THEY'RE UNDER, WE CALL IT ANNUAL NOTICE.
SO IF IT'S THE SAME VIOLATION, IF IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ONE, I HAVE TO START OVER WITH THAT VIOLATION.
SO THIS ONE ALREADY HAVE ONE YEAR VIOLATION NOTICE IN IT, THEY WANTED THAT TO BE A 45 DAYS, AND THAT WAS THE RECOMMEND, IT WAS RECOMMENDED TO BE DENIED.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF I'M EXPLAINING THIS EXACTLY RIGHT.
IS THAT CORRECT, DANNY? YES, SIR.
UH, FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS JANUARY CODE ENFORCEMENT.
SO AS MINA MENTIONED, UH, THE CURRENT SS A P M C DOES HAVE A TWO YEAR PROVISION.
SO ANY SUBSEQUENT VIOLATION THAT OCCURS WITHIN THE, UH, TWO YEARS OF THE FIRST INITIAL NOTICE IS SUBJECT TO, UH, I GUESS A CITATION OR, OR THE NEXT STEP WITHOUT GIVING A ANOTHER NOTICE OF VIOLATION.
THE PROPOSAL, HOWEVER, SUGGESTED RATHER THAN TWO YEARS, UH, LIMIT THAT TO 45 DAYS.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN IT BEING A TWO YEAR NOTICE IS A 45 DAY NOTICE ESSENTIALLY.
SO AFTER 45 DAYS, ANOTHER NOTICE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO START THAT PROCESS OVER AGAIN.
ALRIGHT, THE NEXT SECTION, UH, 1 0 7 0.1.
AGAIN, IT'S THE SAME EXACT SECTION, BUT WE RECEIVED ANOTHER, UH, RECOMMENDED PROPOSAL.
AND IF YOU NOTICE, THAT IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE TOP HERE, WHERE THEY'RE INCLUDING ORDERS TO VACATE AS PRESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 0 8 0.4.
AND AGAIN, UH, THE BOARD SAID IT'S ALREADY OUTLINED APPROPRIATELY.
WE DON'T HAVE TO REF REFERENCE BACK TO 1 0 8 0.4, AND IT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL.
THE NEXT SECTION IS, UH, 1 0 7 0.2.
AND, UM, THIS ONE, I BELIEVE WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THIS.
UH, IF YOU REMEMBER, IT HAD THE SIX BULLET ITEMS AND, UH, THE, THE COMMITTEE APPROVED IT OR RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL WITHOUT BULLET NUMBER SIX.
UH, THIS PROPOSAL CAME IN AND THERE IS DIFFERENT THINGS.
UH, SO THEY REQUESTED TO HAVE THE NOTICES IN ENGLISH AND IN SPANISH, UH, THEY ASKED FOR, TO ADD, I GUESS INCLUDE CORRECTIONS TO THE ORDER WITH INFORMATION ABOUT ASSISTANT PROGRAMS ONTO THAT NOTICE.
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AND THEN THEY MODIFIED ITEM SIX A LITTLE BIT.BUT AGAIN, WHEN THE BOARD REVIEWED THIS, UM, THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, NUMBER ONE, WE APPROVED IT WITHOUT ITEM SIX AND THEY WANTED TO KEEP WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY IN PLACE.
SO I WOULD CALL THIS LIKE, IT WAS DENIED BECAUSE IT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WITH SOME MODIFICATIONS.
I, UH, SECTION 1 0 7 0.2, AND AGAIN, BOTH OF THEM ARE SECTION 1 0 7 0.2.
SO WE RECEIVED A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PROPOSALS FOR THOSE.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS THE SAME ITEM THAT I JUST TALKED ABOUT, SAME EXACT SECTION.
SO FOR THAT SECTION, WE RECEIVED LIKE THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT PROPOSALS.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE BOARD WAS TO ADOPT A 21 MINUS ITEM SIX.
SO AGAIN, ALL THESE ADDITIONAL PROPOSALS WERE NOT, UH, RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.
AGAIN, 1 0 7 0.2 COUPLE MORE TIMES, AS I MENTIONED, WE RECEIVED MULTIPLE, UH, PROPOSALS.
THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM EACH OTHER.
IF THERE WERE, IF THEY WERE EXACTLY IDENTICAL, WE REMOVE THOSE.
AND THAT'S WHY, REMEMBER AT THE BEGINNING I SAID THERE IS 17 IDENTICAL PROPOSALS.
SO WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THOSE.
SO AGAIN, UH, THESE TWO SECTIONS ARE EXACTLY WHAT WE MENTIONED EARLIER.
UH, IT WAS ALREADY APPROVED WITH, UH, REMOVING, EXCLUDING ITEM NUMBER SIX, UH, AND APPROVING THE REST.
UM, THIS TALKS ABOUT, UM, IF THE EQUIPMENT WERE FOUND BASICALLY UNSAFE.
UH, THE PROPOSAL WAS TO ADMIT THIS, TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO BEFORE THE BOARD BEFORE WE ISSUE A NOTICE OF VACATE.
AND AGAIN, THIS WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST ITEMS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT SEVERAL TIMES.
AND YOU'RE GONNA SEE THERE IS MULTIPLE PROPOSALS, DIFFERENT SECTIONS, BUT THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE SAME THING TO HAVE BASICALLY A HEARING BEFORE THE BOARD, PRIOR TO ISSUING, UH, THE NOTICE.
BY LAW, I WANNA SAY THAT AGAIN, I'M NOT ATTORNEY, BUT BY LAW YOU CAN'T APPEAL SOMETHING UNLESS YOU HAVE IT, RIGHT.
I CAN'T APPEAL A NOTICE BEFORE I GET THE NOTICE.
SO AGAIN, IN OUR CHAPTER SIX ALREADY, WE HAVE, UM, THE PROCESS TO APPEAL.
AND IF A NOTICE IS ISSUED, REGARDLESS IF IT'S NOTICE OF VIOLATION OR NOTICE TO VACATE AGAIN, AFTER THAT NOTICE IS ISSUED, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO APPEAL.
AND THE APPEAL PROCESS IS OUTLINED IN CHAPTER SIX.
SO AGAIN, UH, IT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR DENY.
UH, THE PROPOSAL WAS TECHNICALLY JUST TO ADD THE WORD IMMINENT HAZARD TO LIFE HERE.
AND IT'S AGAIN, IN REGARDS TO UNSAFE EQUIPMENT.
UM, AGAIN, THE, THE DISCUSSION WAS WHY DO WE WANNA ONLY HAVE IT LIMITED TO IMMINENT HAZARD? UH, ANY HAZARD, ANY CERTAIN LEVEL OF HAZARD, OBVIOUSLY, UH, NEEDS TO BE, UH, DEALT WITH.
AND A NOTICE NEEDS TO BE ISSUED IF NEEDED, OR AGAIN, UH, EDUCATION SO THE CITIZEN CAN CORRECT THAT ISSUE.
SO THE, THE COMMITTEE DECIDED THEY DON'T WANT THE WORD IMMINENT HAZARD HERE, BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT'S REALLY TAKEN IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
UM, SO THAT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL.
UH, THE NEXT, UH, THREE ITEMS ARE THE SAME.
AND AGAIN, WE RECEIVED DIFFERENT, UH, PROPOSALS HERE.
UM, AGAIN, IT'S IN REGARDS TO A STRUCTURE THAT IS CONSIDERED UNFIT FOR HUMAN OCCUPANCY.
AND, UH, JUST EACH ONE CAME UP WITH SOME DIFFERENT, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THE BOARD, WHEN THEY, THEY REVIEWED THIS, THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO KEEP WHAT WE HAVE, BECAUSE THIS WAS KIND OF, UH, SPELLING SPECIFIC ITEMS, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT ELECTROCUTION, UH, IGNITION AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THE BOARD WAS, WE ALREADY HAVE EVERYTHING COVERED WITH WHAT WE HAVE EXISTING NOW, SO WHY WE WANNA SPECIFICALLY LIST CERTAIN ITEMS. UM, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THIS SECTION WAS, AGAIN, TO TAKING, UH, TO, TO GO TO THE BOARD AND APPEAR BEFORE THE BOARD, UH, WHEN WE HAVE, UH, BEFORE ISSUING THE NOTICE OF VACATE.
AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, IT'S, IT WAS, UH, PROPOSED MULTIPLE TIMES IN DIFFERENT SECTIONS, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER SECTION HERE.
UM, AND THE THIRD ONE WAS VERY SIMILAR TO THE FIRST ONE, TO A CERTAIN POINT WHERE, AGAIN, THEY ARE SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT CERTAIN HAZARDS
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LIKE IGNITIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.AND THE BOARD DECIDED TO, UH, DENY THOSE OR RECOMMEND DENIAL TO KEEP WHAT WE HAVE IN THE CODE TODAY.
UM, AGAIN, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, THAT SECTION IS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT APPEALS AND IT TALKS ABOUT CHAPTER SIX.
AND AS, AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER, IT DOES WALK THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
SO THERE WAS NO NEED TO ADOPT WHAT THEY'RE RECOMMENDING HERE.
UH, THIS WAS SPECIFICALLY IN REGARDS TO UTILITY SERVICE DISCONNECT.
AND, UM, THE PROPOSAL HERE IS SPECIFICALLY STATING THAT WE NEED TO GIVE, UH, OCCUPANTS AT LEAST FIVE DAYS PRIOR TO TAKING THAT ACTION.
SO PRIOR TO ISSUING A NOTICE TO DISCONNECT, UH, UTILITIES.
AND AGAIN, UM, BASED ON CURRENT PROCESS, I MEAN, WE, I DON'T WANNA SAY WE NEVER DO IT, BUT 99.9% OF THE TIME, WE DON'T JUST GO TO ALLOCATION AND DISCONNECT POWER RIGHT THERE AND THEN.
IF WE SEE A HAZARD, IF WE SEE EXPOSED WIRES, LET'S ASSUME THAT, OR WHATEVER THE CASE MIGHT BE, OR LEAK OR THINGS LIKE THAT, WE TALK TO THEM, WE GIVE THEM SOME TIME TO REPAIR IT.
SO WHEN WE GIVE THEM A NOTICE AND WE GIVE THEM NORMALLY A 10 DAY NOTICE, RIGHT, TO REPAIR IT AFTER 10 DAYS, IF WE GO BACK AND IT'S STILL THERE, WE ARE GONNA RECOMMEND DISCONNECT OF UTILITIES.
SO WE DON'T WANNA GIVE THEM ANOTHER FIVE DAYS.
THEY ALREADY HAD PLENTY OF TIME TO REPAIR IT IF THEY CHOSE TO.
SO PROVIDING FIVE MORE DAYS WILL NOT HELP ANYBODY.
UH, AND THE HAZARD IS TECHNICALLY STILL THERE.
SO THE BOARD RECOMMENDED DENIAL.
OKAY, 1 0 8 0.4, WE HAVE THAT, UH, COUPLE OF TIMES.
THE FIRST ONE IS AGAIN, IN REGARDS TO APPEARING BEFORE THE BOARD IN REGARDS TO THE, UH, NOTICE TO VACATE.
AND THE NEXT ONE, UM, IS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT, BASICALLY KIND OF THE SAME, NOT THE SAME, BUT SIMILAR TO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, IS TO GIVE BASICALLY, UM, TENANTS OR OCCUPANTS 12 DAYS, UM, PRIOR TO VACATING THE STRUCTURE.
SO AGAIN, UM, SAME KIND OF CONCEPT, NOT JUST LIKE UTILITY DISCONNECTS NOTICE TO VACATE.
WE DON'T JUST GO AND DO THAT UNLESS IT'S REALLY IMMINENT DANGER, LIKE RIGHT THERE, IT'S ABOUT TO FALL OR SOMETHING THAT WILL BE IMMEDIATE.
NORMALLY WE GIVE THEM A NOTICE TO VACATE AFTER WORKING WITH THEM FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
AND EVEN WHEN WE GIVE THE NOTICE TO VACATE, WE GIVE THEM 72 HOURS.
SO IT'S ABOUT THREE DAYS HERE.
UM, SO AGAIN, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE BOARD WAS TO DENY THAT AND TO KEEP WHAT WE HAVE.
THE NEXT SECTION 1 0 9 0.1, UM, IT BASICALLY TALKS ABOUT THE EMINENT DANGER.
AND REMEMBER WE HAD THE DEFINITION AND IT WAS MODIFIED SLIGHTLY AND WAS APPROVED LIKE THAT.
SO BASICALLY, AGAIN, UH, IMMINENT DANGER DEFINITION WAS ALREADY MODIFIED.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO KEEP WHAT WE MODIFIED COMPARED TO THE, UH, PROPER, UH, THE 2021, UH, INTERNATIONAL CODE.
THE NEXT ITEM IS, UH, 1 0 9 0.1.
AGAIN, THAT'S THE SAME SECTION WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
UM, SO AGAIN, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE.
EMINENT DANGER, UH, DEFINITION IS ALREADY DONE AND APPROVED OR RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL WITH SOME MODIFICATIONS.
AND THIS SECTION, UH, DICTATES THAT REALLY WELL.
SO THERE WAS NO NEED TO ADD ANYTHING IN REGARDS TO FAILURE OF, OR COLLAPSE OF THE STRUCTURE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT WAS PROPOSED HERE AND THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, AND THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO DENY THAT.
OKAY, THE NEXT ONE, UH, IT'S A NEW SECTION BASICALLY THAT, UH, DOES NOT EXIST IN THE CURRENT CODE.
AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS AGAIN, UH, SECTION 1 0 9 0.2 TALKS ABOUT HEARING, UH, IT'S THE APPEAL PROCESS BASICALLY.
UH, THE APPEAL ALREADY EXISTS IN CHAPTER SIX, SO THERE IS NO NEED TO HAVE ANYTHING HERE, NUMBER ONE, THAT MIGHT BE NOT IN LINE WITH WHAT WE HAVE.
AS MR. NELSON SAID, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE IT HERE, WE POTENTIALLY MIGHT NEED TO REWRITE WHAT WE HAVE AND
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MAKE SURE THEY ALL MATCH.SO, UH, THAT SECTION WAS, UH, RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL.
UH, THE, THE, THE NEXT ONE IS AS WELL THE SAME KIND OF, UH, NOT THE SAME SECTION, BUT IT'S, IT'S IN, IN SECTION, UH, UM, 1 0 9, BUT IT'S 1 0 9 0.3 WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE NOTICE.
SO THE FIRST ONE HERE WAS THE HEARING, AND THEN THIS ONE IS THE NOTICE.
AND THE NOTICE IS ALREADY OUTLINED IN OUR CURRENT CODE.
UH, SO THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE AT THIS POINT.
THE, THE LAST TWO, ACTUALLY HERE ON THIS SLIDE IS SECTION ONE 11.
AND AGAIN, THAT TALKS ABOUT THE APPEAL PROCESS IN CHAPTER SIX.
SO WE GOT DIFFERENT PROPOSALS, BASICALLY HERE.
THEY, THEY, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT 20 DAYS AFTER THE NOTICE WAS SERVED.
UH, AS I MENTIONED, THIS TOPIC WAS REALLY ONE OF THE MAJOR TOPICS THAT THE COMMITTEE TALKED ABOUT.
AND, UH, WE HAD SEVERAL PROPOSALS, DIFFERENT ONES THAT CAME IN.
UM, AND AGAIN, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS, UH, TO, TO MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE IN CHAPTER SIX AND JUST FOLLOW THAT AS WE HAVE BEEN.
UM, THE NEXT ONE IS SECTION 2 0 2.
IT'S A DEFINITION OF OUTSIDE PLACEMENT.
AND, UM, THE PROPOSAL HERE IS TO ADD A LITTLE BIT, UM, ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE IN REGARDS TO, BASICALLY HERE IT'S SAYING, NOT INCLUDING FURNITURE FROM AN AUTOMOBILE THAT HAS BEEN REPURPOSED FOR OUTDOOR USE.
UH, THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION.
AND AGAIN, DOWN HERE TALKS ABOUT THE SAME THING, YOU KNOW, ABOUT CERTAIN MATERIAL OR FURNITURE THAT YOU'RE GONNA REPURPOSE FOR OUTDOOR.
UM, AGAIN, THIS WAS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE BIG TOPICS THAT THE COMMITTEE TALKED ABOUT SEVERAL TIMES.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO KEEP WHAT WE HAVE IN THE CODE, BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S GONNA BE REALLY HARD TO DECIDE WHO GONNA DETERMINE IF THIS IS REPURPOSED FOR OUTDOOR OR NOT.
SO IF I GET A BLOCK ENGINE, I CLEAN IT UP AND PUT IT ON THE SITE, SAY, I WANNA SIT ON THIS, AND I'M SAYING IT'S THREE PURPOSE FOR OUTDOOR, IS THAT APPROPRIATE OR NOT? AND WHO GONNA DETERMINE EXACTLY THAT? SO THAT'S WHY THE BOARD DECIDED TO, UH, RECOMMEND DENIAL AND MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE.
UH, THE NEXT ONE IS AGAIN, UH, IT'S SECTION 2 0 2.
IT'S THE DEFINITION OF RUBBISH.
BUT, UH, IF YOU SEE HERE, THE SAME KIND OF RECOMMENDATION IS TO ALLOW ITEMS THAT THEY ARE, THEY HAVE BEEN REFURBISHED OR REPURPOSED FOR ADO.
AGAIN, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR, FOR DENIAL, BECAUSE WE CANNOT, UH, EXACTLY DEFINE THAT.
THE NEXT 1, 2 0 2, IT'S REASONABLE TIME.
AND, UM, IT TALKS ABOUT THE EXISTING CODE TALKS ABOUT 10 DAYS MINIMUM.
BASICALLY IS CONSIDERED REASONABLE TIME.
SO WHEN WE GIVE A NOTICE TO SOMEBODY FOR ANY VIOLATION, WE GIVE THEM 10 DAYS TO REPAIR THAT VIOLATION BEFORE WE COME BACK.
AND REINSPECT THE PROPOSAL WAS ACTUALLY TO CHANGE THAT TO 60, TO AT LEAST 60 TO 90 DAYS CALENDAR DAYS.
AND, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE BOARD WAS FOR DENIAL ON THAT.
THE NEXT SECTION IS EXACTLY THE SAME ONE, THE REASONABLE TIME.
WE RECEIVED ANOTHER PROPOSAL TO CHANGE THE 10 DAYS TO 15 DAYS, AND THAT WAS, UM, RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL AS WELL.
AND IF, I BELIEVE, IF I RECALL ACTUALLY, UM, THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT, AND I BELIEVE THEY STATED THAT IN STATE LAW IT SAYS 10 DAYS.
SO THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO MAINTAIN THAT.
THE NEXT DEFINITION, IT'S IN REGARDS TO CODE, UH, OFFICIAL, AND AGAIN, IT'S BASICALLY THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, UM, ON THIS ONE.
OKAY, SO THE PROPOSAL HERE WAS, UH, TO BASICALLY MAKE SURE THEY WANTED TO ADMIT THAT, TO INCLUDE QUALIFICATIONS THAT PROVE THAT THAT PERSON IS COMPETENT.
I, I BELIEVE, WELL, I MEAN, AGAIN, TO BE IN THAT POSITION, YOU NEED TO BE COMPETENT.
YOU GO THROUGH A LOT OF INTERVIEWS, YOU HAVE TO REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING, OTHERWISE YOU WILL NOT BE IN THAT POSITION.
SO THE BOARD DECIDED TO KEEP IT AS AS IS.
UH, THE NEXT ONE IS, AGAIN, ANOTHER DEFINITION WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT APPROVED.
THE DEFINITION OF APPROVED IN THE CODE TODAY IS ACCEPTABLE TO THE CODE OFFICIAL.
AND THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO CHANGE IT TO SAY, APPROVED BY THE CODE OFFICIAL.
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KEEP THE EXISTING ONE BECAUSE DEFINING APPROVED WITH APPROVED.I THINK WE ARE, WE ARE ALMOST THERE.
OKAY, THE NEXT ONE IS AGAIN, UM, DEFINITION OF RUBBISH.
I THINK WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
AND AGAIN, THE CONCEPT HERE WAS, UH, RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL FOR THIS PROPOSAL BECAUSE IT TALKS ABOUT THE REPURPOSE FOR OUTDOOR, AGAIN, IT JUST WORDED DIFFERENTLY.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE IT HAVE IT LISTED AGAIN.
UM, SO BASICALLY THIS SECTION TODAY TALKS ABOUT THE CODE OFFICIAL IS AUTHORIZED TO UTILIZE NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED STANDARDS.
SO THE BUILDING OFFICIAL IS AUTHORIZED TO USE THAT.
I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CODE OFFICIAL IS AUTHORIZED, OR I'M SORRY, I THINK THIS IS WRONG.
THE BUILDING OFFIC, THE BUILDING OFFICIAL, THE CODE OFFICIAL WILL UTILIZE RECOGNIZED, UH, STANDARDS.
SO I GUESS THE, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO CHANGE, AUTHORIZED TO WILL UTILIZE.
AND THE BOARD DID NOT FEEL THAT THAT CHANGE, UH, WILL MAKE ANY BIG DIFFERENCE.
I MEAN, WE HAVE THE STANDARDS, THE NATIONAL STANDARDS, AND WE UTILIZE THOSE WHEN NEEDED.
AND AGAIN, IF THE BUILDING OFFICIAL IS AUTHORIZED TO USE IT, HE, HE OR SHE WILL USE IT.
OKAY, THE NEXT ONE, I BELIEVE THIS IS THE LAST ONE.
UH, THIS IS SECTION B 1 0 1 0.2.
AND, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN THE EXISTING CODE, BUT AGAIN, THE PROPOSAL WAS TO MAKE THE APPEAL PROCESS 60 TO 90 DAYS.
UM, AGAIN, IT TALKS ABOUT THE APPEAL AND THEN TALKS ABOUT THE BILL OFFICIALLY NEEDS TO GIVE 20 DAYS AFTER THE NOTICE IS SERVED TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO, UH, APPEAL IT AS, AS WE TALKED ABOUT THE APPEAL PROCESSES IN CHAPTER SIX.
AND THE BOARD OR THE COMMITTEE DECIDED TO, UH, DENY THIS AND MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE.
SO THOSE ARE ALL THE, UH, PROPOSALS THAT WE RECEIVED AND WHAT THE OUTCOME WAS.
I THINK I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS, BUT THE NEXT STEPS IS FOR YOU AS THE FULL BOARD TO DECIDE ON THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
DO YOU WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THEM? DO YOU WANNA DISCUSS ANY, ANY OF THEM? UH, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHENEVER THIS BOARD GIVE US THE ORDERS OF YES, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS OR WITH ANY MODIFICATIONS, HERE IS OUR RECOMMENDED, UH, APPROVAL OR DENIALS.
THEN THE NEXT STEP IS TO GO TO PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE.
IT'S ONE OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES FROM COUNCIL.
WE HAVE IT, WE HAVE IT SCHEDULED NOW FOR SEPTEMBER 22ND.
UH, AGAIN, IF THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED, WE CAN, OUR HOPE IS TO KEEP IT, BECAUSE ON THE SAME DAY WE ARE TAKING ALL THE OTHER BUILDING CODES, THE BUILDING RELATED CODES, AND THE FIRE CODE AS WELL.
SO WE ARE HOPING TO TAKE ALL THE I C C CODES TOGETHER TO CANCEL TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK.
AND FROM THERE, WHATEVER THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS, THEN POTENTIALLY TO GO TO FULL COUNCIL TO GET THAT, UH, APPROVAL AT THE END, SOMETIME IN OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, WHENEVER WE GO TO COUNCIL AND IT, IT GETS APPROVED AT THAT POINT, THEN NORMALLY WE GIVE 90 DAY GRACE PERIOD FOR THE NEW CODES TO KICK IN FOR A LOT OF REASONS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS CODE.
NUMBER ONE, I TALKED ABOUT HOW WE BUY THE RIGHTS TO PUBLISH OUR OWN SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.
WELL, I CANNOT PRINT THE CODE UNTIL I GET THE APPROVAL FROM COUNCIL, SO I NEED TIME TO DO THAT.
SO THE MINUTE THEY SAY YES, WE START PRINTING THOSE, TAKES TIME TO GET THEM PRINTED SO WE HAVE THEM AVAILABLE.
THE SECOND THING IS TO TRAIN OUR STAFF ON ALL THE, THOSE CHANGES TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW AND THEY'RE AWARE OF WHAT CHANGES HAPPEN.
AND A LOT OF TIMES WE DO PUBLIC MEETINGS AS WELL TO EXPLAIN THE CHANGES SPECIFICALLY THAT THEY WERE APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
RIGHT NOW I'M GOING THROUGH EVERYTHING THE SUBCOMMITTEE TALKED ABOUT, BUT WHEN COUNCIL APPROVES IT, WHATEVER IS APPROVED, THAT'S WHAT WE GONNA FOCUS ON BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE DOESN'T COUNT AT THAT POINT.
SO WE NEED TIME TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC AS WELL, SIR? YES, SIR.
UH, YOU STATED THAT, UH, IT HAS TO BE VOTED BY THE FULL BOARD.
WELL, THIS IS THE LAST TIME BEFORE THE DATES THAT THE, UH, SHOWED US THAT WE GONNA MEET AS A FULL BOARD.
WOULD THAT BE PROPER TO APPROVE
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OR DISAPPROVE TODAY? UH, ABSOLUTELY.IF, IF THE BOARD CHOOSES TO DO THAT, YES, YOU CAN.
IF WE NEED ANOTHER FULL BOARD MEETING, WE CAN DEFINITELY SET THAT UP.
MS. MS. CHAIRMAN? YES, MR. ZINGA, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE AMENDMENTS AND DENIALS, UH, THAT, UH, MS. TAMEZ, UH, THOMAS SPOKE OF, AND, YOU KNOW, WITH THE BUILDING STANDARD BOARDS, UH, PERMISSION TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE SO IT CAN MOVE ON FORWARD.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. ZUNIGA.
IS THIS YOUR RECOMMENDATION, MR. ZUNIGA? HOW'S THAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION? 'CAUSE HE HAS A, IT'S THE RECOMMENDATION.
TO HAVE A VOTE TO APPROVE IT SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. ZUNIGA THAT BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE SA PC'S, UM, AMENDMENTS AND DENIALS THAT YOU ALL HAVE DISCUSSED.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? DISCUSSION CAN HAVE, OH, DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? YEAH, I GOT A QUESTION ON, ON YOUR RECOMMEND OR ON YOUR MOTION, ARE YOU ALSO, BECAUSE YOU ASKED EARLIER ABOUT ANOTHER BOARD MEETING, A FULL BOARD MEETING, UH, WELL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER FULL BOARD MEETING TILL, WHAT, NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER, WHATEVER.
AND WE NEED TO, UH, B SS B NEEDS TO MOVE ON FORWARD WITH US.
I MEAN, WE CAN'T HOLD IT BACK.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING, BUT IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU WERE SAYING DO WE NEED ANOTHER FULL BOARD AND WE SHOULDN'T NO, WE HAVE A BOARD HERE.
WE RIGHT NOW, I MEAN BY THE NEXT BOARD MEETING OR FULL BOARD MEETING, WE MIGHT NOT REMEMBER
AND WE, HE WOULD HAVE TO REPEAT IT AGAIN.
SO THIS IS A TIME, THIS IS A PLACE AND IT'S FRESH IN THEIR MINDS.
AND, UH, WE'RE NOT HERE TO WASTE TIME, BUT TO MOVE FORWARD IN THIS AMENDMENTS AND DENIALS.
AND WE GOT A FIRST AND A SECOND, AND, UH, I GO FOR THE VOTE.
WELL, NO, BECAUSE WE HAVE A DISCUSSION PERIOD.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS WAS STARTING.
SO, UH, I DO BELIEVE SOME PEOPLE DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS EARLIER.
SO LET THEM ASK THE QUESTIONS.
I I WAS HOPING THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY GO THROUGH IT AND TALK ABOUT A, A FEW THAT WE HAD, UH, ISSUES WITH.
AND I REALLY HAVE TO START FIRST AND SAY, COMMEND YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE.
UH, YOU'VE GOT THROUGH ALL THIS AND I THINK, UH, THE WORK IS REALLY, IS REALLY A, A GREAT PRODUCT.
I HAD JUST ONE QUESTION OVER ONE, ONE OF THE CHANGES, AND THAT WAS THE 1 0 2 0.4 THAT WAS ON PAGE 17 OF YOUR, UH, UH, PRESENTATION.
AND THAT GOT IN WITH THE, THE, THE ISSUE OF DEMOLITION.
YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS HEARING YOUR, UM, UH, RATIONALE FOR ACCEPTING THAT ONE, IT WAS BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING YOU'VE ALREADY ARE DOING.
AND THEN GOING THROUGH THE PROPOSALS THAT WERE REJECTED, THE, ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS I HEARD FOR THE REJECTION WAS THAT IT WAS ALREADY COVERED UNDER CHAPTER SIX.
AND SO IN THIS CASE, YOU HAVE IT UNDER REMEDIES TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, DEMOLITION SHOULD BE THE LAST RESORT.
BUT IN THE SECTION OF THE, OF THE, UH, OF THE CODE THAT REFERENCES DEMOLITIONS, WHICH IS, UH, ONE 10, IT REFERS YOU BACK TO, UH, CHAPTER SIX.
AND SO IN CHAPTER SIX, WE'RE USING THE SAME LANGUAGE TO SAY THAT DEMOLITIONS ARE THE, THE LAST RESORT, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS IN SECTION, UH, ONE 10 ON DEMOLITION.
SO I'M WONDERING WHY ARE WE, WHY ARE WE REPEATING THE LANGUAGE HERE UNDER REMEDIES AND WE ALREADY HAVE IT COVERED UNDER DEMOLITION? GOOD QUESTION.
UM, AGAIN, THAT, THAT TOPIC WAS DISCUSSED A LOT BASICALLY DURING THE MEETINGS.
AND AS YOU SAID, I MEAN, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THAT SPECIFIC STATEMENT IS IN CHAPTER SIX ALREADY, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE COMMITTEE DECIDED TO ADD IT IN THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE JUST AS A REFERENCE.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL THAT I CAN TELL YOU.
I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT.
'CAUSE I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE ALL AGREE WITH.
THAT SHOULD BE THE LAST RESORT.
IT'S JUST THAT NOW WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT TRYING TO KEEP THOSE TWO THINGS
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CONSISTENT GOING IN THE FUTURE.AND, AND THAT'S REALLY KIND OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS WE ALWAYS TRY TO AVOID WHEN, WHEN WRITING CODES IS NOT TO REPEAT LANGUAGE OR HAVE LANGUAGE REFERENCED SOMEWHERE ELSE, IDENTICAL LANGUAGE.
'CAUSE THEN YOU HAVE TO NOW TRY TO KEEP 'EM BOTH TOGETHER GOING THIS POINT FORWARD.
AND SO I, I WOULD'VE RECOMMENDED SAYING THAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT IT COVERED.
SO WE WOULD'VE ACCEPTED THAT PROPOSAL.
UH, UM, UH, I, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE RIGHT LANGUAGE FOR THAT, UH, IN PRINCIPLE.
UH, 'CAUSE WE'VE ALREADY HAD IT COVERED AND THEN WOULD'VE REJECTED IT FOR THAT.
THIS IS ROBERT TAPIA, UH, AND KIND OF IN LINE WITH THAT IN THE LANGUAGE.
I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO SOFTEN THE BLOW OF THE TERM DEMOLITION AND YET TO HIS POINT, WE KEEP BRINGING UP IT'S THE LAST RESORT IT SHE CAN'T HEAR.
UM, AND UM, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT HERE TO RUFFLE THE FEATHERS CONTINUALLY.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE STILL NEED TO WORK ON GETTING EVERYONE TO ACCEPT THE DEMOLITION PART AND, AND NOT TO BE ASHAMED OF IT OR NOT TO BE, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A BUSINESS.
IT'S A BUSINESS THING THAT WE HAVE TO, IT HAS TO HAPPEN.
AND, UM, I KNOW IT'S A DIFFICULT THING, YOU KNOW, TO TO, TO SPEAK AND TO TRY TO SOFTEN THAT THAT TERM.
BUT LIKE YOU SAID, WE KEEP MENTIONING IT AND IT, IT, IT BRINGS UP A, A NEEDLING POINT TO, TO SOME PEOPLE AT CERTAIN TIMES WITH CERTAIN CASES IN CERTAIN DISTRICTS
SO, UM, JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT, UM, TO THAT POINT, I HAVE OTHER, OTHER THINGS I WANNA TALK ABOUT, BUT WE CAN MOVE ON TO.
I JUST WANNA COMMENT ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.
I THINK YOU MENTIONED DEMOLITION IS A BUSINESS THING.
I WANNA MAKE SURE ON RECORD IT'S NOT A BUSINESS THING FOR US.
WELL THAT'S, UH, SO IF, IF THE STRUCTURE IS SAFE, THEN IT HAS TO TO STAY AND HAS TO REMAIN.
AND I THINK I KNOW WHERE YOU STAND, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE 'CAUSE THIS IS RECORDED TO MAKE SURE CLARIFY THAT, UH, YES, YOU'RE RIGHT.
UH, YES, JUST TO COMMENT ON, UH, THAT PARTICULAR SECTION.
IT, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT, UH, COMMUNITY SERIOUSLY PUSHED FOR THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTED.
UM, FOR THOSE OF US WHO, WHO DEAL WITH THIS ON, ON A REGULAR BASIS, IT HAVING SOMETHING IN WRITING THAT IS COMPLETELY 100% CLEAR IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS, ESPECIALLY ON UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING OF IT.
A LOT OF THE LANGUAGE HERE, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY NOT UNDERSTAND THE MOST OF IT, BUT THAT SENTENCE RIGHT THERE, IT SHOWS SOMEONE WHO IS IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, THIS IS A LAST RESORT.
AND THAT IS PART OF THE REASONING BEHIND WHY HAVING THAT STATEMENT THERE, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT COMMUNITY WANTED.
AND ANYONE WHO KNOWS ME KNOWS IT'S A PET PEEVE OF MINE.
IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO ME TO HEAR OR ALLOW EVERYONE TO USE THEIR VOICE TO HAVE THEIR SAY, REGARDLESS IF WE DISAGREE OR NOT.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT.
I, I, I SAID I AGREED IN PRINCIPLE WHAT THEY WERE OFFERING, BUT WE ALREADY HAVE THAT LANGUAGE.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S DIFFERENT HERE IS THE HOWEVER COMMON.
AND, AND THE LAST DAY OF THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS, THERE WAS ANOTHER SECTION THAT WAS SIMILAR AND IT ALSO SPOKE ABOUT DEMOLITION.
AND, UH, WE WERE GOING BACK AND FORTH ON THE LANGUAGE ON IT AND UNTIL WE REALIZED THAT, OH, THAT'S PART OF CHAPTER SIX, WE CAN'T CHANGE THAT.
BUT THERE ARE MULTIPLE SECTIONS THAT REPEAT THE SAME LANGUAGE AND WE'VE HAD THAT SAME ARGUMENT.
OH, WELL IT'S REPEATING LANGUAGE, LET'S TAKE IT OUT.
WELL, NO, WE NEED TO KEEP IT FOR THIS REASON OR THAT REASON.
SO THAT LITTLE SECTION REPEATING, THERE'S A LOT OF SECTIONS THAT DO THAT.
AND IF YOU'RE, THE COMMUNITY WANTS IT THERE, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA REMOVE IT SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S REPEATING LANGUAGE.
THAT'S REALLY NOT FAIR BECAUSE THIS IS A COMMUNITY RECOMMENDATION.
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ALL CALL FOR THE VOTE.MADAM CHAIR, I'M, I'M GONNA HOLD UP FOR A MINUTE.
I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SOME OTHER CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS.
'CAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THE, THE VOTE THAT YOU GUYS ARE GONNA DO IS FOR THE ALL THE AMENDMENTS, UM, THAT WERE APPROVED AND OR, UH, DENIED.
UM, BUT I, I DO BELIEVE MR. TAPIA HAD STATED THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER COMMENT THAT HE HAD.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON ANY OF THE, UM, UH, ANY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH VOTING.
UH, I HAD OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, UH, OUTSIDE THE MOTION.
SO LIKE COUNCIL WAS SAYING, UH, GO AHEAD AND HANDLE THE MOTION AND THEN HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT OTHER POINTS.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN? OTHER POINTS? UM, CONTINUED POINTS ABOUT, UM, MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE, THE AMENDMENTS, RIGHT? IF WE VOTE ON THE AMENDMENTS, THEN YOU CAN'T VIEW THOSE PRIOR AT ONCE WE VOTE ON 'EM.
RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING YOU WANTED TO VOTE AND THEN HAVE DISCUSSIONS ON IT.
WELL, I I MEAN, BECAUSE THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE.
IT'S DISCUSSION IF WE'RE DISCUSSING.
WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE.
IF WE VOTE ON IT, THAT MEANS YOU CAN'T DISCUSS IT.
SO YOU WANNA MAKE SURE YOU GET EVERYTHING OUT NOW BEFORE WE VOTE.
MR. TAPIA, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT I PRESENTED, YES, THIS IS THE TIME.
THEN YOU DON'T WANT TO G YOU OUTTA THE TIME.
I, WE, I CAN MAKE IT INTO SOME BULLET POINTS.
WE, WE, WITHOUT GETTING, I'M, I'M SORRY.
THERE IS A MOTION ON THE TABLE.
THERE CAN BE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE MOTION AND THEN WE VOTE ON THE MOTION.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT ONCE THE VOTE HAPPENS, UH, WE'RE MOVING ON FROM SS A P M C ISSUES AND MOVING TO THE NEXT BULLET POINT THAT'S IN OUR AGENDA FOR TODAY.
THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO MAKE SURE MR. TAPIA, WHATEVER CONCERNS, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT YOU HAD HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE AMENDMENTS OF THE SS A P M C AS A WHOLE.
OKAY? BUT YES, UH, CHAIR, I AGREE WITH LEGAL.
WE GOTTA MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.
UH, WE ALL HAD AN OPPORTUNITY, THE COMMUNITY, THE RESIDENTS, AND EVEN THIS BOARD TO SIT DOWN AND, UH, GO THROUGH HOURS, HOURS AND HOURS, LIKE I SAY, OF DISCUSSION PRE AND OLD.
AND NOW TO HOLD ON AND COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, I WASN'T AT THE MEETING.
AND TO SAY, UH, WE WEREN'T AT THE MEETING, IT'S JUST LIKE ME WOULD SAY, I WASN'T AT THE MEETING.
LET'S GO BACK TO 1 0 1 OR 1 0 4.
SO I, I FEEL THAT THIS IS THIS DISSERVICE, UH, TO SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS TO GO BACK AGAIN.
AND I, BECAUSE WE WEREN'T HERE FOR ONE, ONE REASON OR ANOTHER, AND HOLD THIS PROCESS UP, WE GOTTA MOVE FORWARD.
UH, POINT OF ORDER, NOT, NO, THERE AIN'T NO POINT IN ORDER.
NO, NO ARGUMENT ORDER, UH, NO ARGUMENT.
SO MR. TAPIA, DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION CONCERNING THIS MOTION ON THE FLOOR? CALL FOR THE VOTE.
A MOTION PASSES WITH A VOTE OF 6 2 1.
BOARD, DO WE NEED TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK? ARE WE, ARE WE GOOD TO KEEP POWERING THROUGH? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE BOARD, DO YOU ALL NEED A BREAK? WE WILL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.
GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
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GOOD AFTERNOON.MY NAME IS ALICE G**O, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MANAGER.
TODAY I WILL BE PRESENTING THE B S B ORDERS AND ACTIONS FROM OCTOBER 1ST, 2021 THROUGH AUGUST 31ST, 2022 DANGEROUS STRUCTURES PRESENTED BEFORE THE BOARD, WE HAD A TOTAL OF 64 CASES.
SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASES.
WE HAD SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE CASES.
THERE WAS NOT ANY SUMMARILY ABATEMENT CASES TO APPEAL ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS. WE HAD A TOTAL OF 222 CASES.
WE HAD A TOTAL OF 21 B S B CASES HEARD BEFORE THE BOARD 10, BEFORE PANEL A, NINE BEFORE PANEL B AND TWO BEFORE THE FULL BOARD.
NEXT ITEM TO DISCUSS IS GOING TO BE THE NUMBER OF B S B CASES BY COUNCIL DISTRICT'S PROACTIVE AND REACTIVE CASES.
FROM OCTOBER 1ST, 2021 THROUGH AUGUST 31ST, 2022.
COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE, WE HAD A TOTAL OF 45 CASES CANCELED.
DISTRICT TWO HAD A TOTAL OF 26, CANCEL.
DISTRICT THREE HAD A TOTAL OF 64, HAD 13 CANCEL.
DISTRICT SIX HAD TWO, SEVEN HAD 25 CASES.
DISTRICT EIGHT HAD THREE, DISTRICT NINE HAD ONE AND DISTRICT 10 HAD EIGHT FOR A TOTAL OF 222 CASES.
AND THAT DOES CONCLUDE MY UPDATES.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, GO AHEAD.
DID YOU SAY QUESTION? I'M SORRY, MS. BROWN, DID YOU SAY THOSE ARE FOR S SS A P M C CASES? THESE ARE THE, THE CASES BROUGHT BEFORE THE BOARD.
SO THEY WOULD BE A COMBINATION OF THE DP AND THE CENTERING PROPERTY MAINTENANCE.
LET ME, LET ME A QUESTION REAL QUICK.
THIS IS ONLY BROUGHT BEFORE THE BOARD, BUT DOES, IS THERE DATA OUT THERE FOR PLACES, I MEAN FOR OTHERS THAT ARE LIKE HOME HARMLESS AND ALL THAT, IS THERE A STATISTIC FOR THAT TOO? WHEN, WHEN YOU DO YOUR TOTAL NUMBERS, SIR? THE HOLD HARMLESS? YES.
UM, THEY ARE INCLUDED IN THE NUMBERS FOR THE B S B ORDERS AND ACTIONS.
IF YOU'D LIKE, I COULD READ THOSE INDIVIDUALLY TO YOU PER PANEL, BUT I WOULDN'T NO, I'M JUST SAYING BECAUSE THIS IS A TOTAL OF ALL CASES.
SO THOSE ARE ALSO INCLUDED BECAUSE THEY'RE BROUGHT BEFORE THE BOARD FOR RECORD.
JUST A COUPLE MORE UPDATES TO, TO RUN THROUGH.
UM, WE'VE GOT JUST A TENTATIVE, UH, SCHEDULING FOR THE NEXT, UH, FORECASTING FOR OUR NEXT, UH, BOARD HEARINGS.
WE ARE STILL, UM, TRUCKING ALONG, SO TO SPEAK.
UM, CONTINUING TO WORK ON, UH, TWO HEARINGS PER MONTH, WHICH WOULD BE, I GUESS, UH, UTILIZING ONE BOARD, UM, ONCE PER MONTH.
SO I, I BELIEVE THAT IS STILL WORKING OUT VERY, VERY WELL.
AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYBODY, UH, MAKING THE TIME AND THE COMMITMENT TO, UH, TO ATTENDING THOSE HEARINGS.
UM, THESE DATES OF COURSE ARE STILL ADJUSTABLE AND A LITTLE BIT FLEXIBLE, BUT WE TRY TO FORECAST AND STICK TO IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
UM, AND TO SPEAK, I KNOW EARLIER MR. ZUNIGA HAD MENTIONED THIS, UH, ABOUT THE NEXT BOARD HEARING.
THIS IS THE LAST BOARD HEARING FOR THE 2022 YEAR.
SO AT THE BOTTOM WE DO HAVE, UM, THE SCHEDULED DATES FOR THE NEXT FULL BOARD HEARINGS, WHICH WOULD ROLL INTO, UH, MAY OF NEXT YEAR.
AND REALLY QUICK, UH, JUST WE DO HAVE PERCENTAGES OF ALL OF OUR MEMBERS THAT, AGAIN, THANK YOU.
WE CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE TAKING THE TIME.
WE KNOW EVERYBODY'S GOT OTHER COMMITMENTS, OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES GOING ON.
BUT, UH, MAKING THE TIME AND EFFORT TO NOT ONLY COME POTENTIALLY TO THE, UH, TO YOUR SIGNED BOARD HEARING, BUT ANY EXTRAS THAT WE MAY NEED SOME, UH, ASSISTANCE IN THAT HAS BEEN VERY, VERY HELPFUL.
SO THAT'S JUST A QUICK BREAKDOWN ON A ROLL CALL THAT JUDY AND ESTHER DO KEEP TRACK.
AND LAST ONE, AND THIS IS THE CURRENT BREAKDOWN, I DON'T BELIEVE, WILL IT NEED TO CHANGE JUDY WITH, UH, THE NEW CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR? YEAH.
SO THIS IS CURRENT AS OF, YOU KNOW, LOOKING BACKWARDS, UH, WE'LL MAKE THE UPDATE, UM, AFTER, SINCE WE HAVE, UM, UH, WHERE THE BOARD HAS, UH, CONFIRMED A NEW CHAIR AND A NEW VICE CHAIR.
SO WE'LL MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS AS NEEDED.
AND, UH, WE'LL DEFINITELY GET THAT OUT TO YOU GUYS.
UM, HOPEFULLY BY NEXT WEEK WE CAN UPDATE THAT AND JUST SEND THAT OUT FOR EVERYBODY'S INFORMATION.
WE NEED TO DISCUSS IT TODAY TO SEE IF MR. UM, WILL SWITCH OVER.
YEAH, THAT'LL PROBABLY BE, SO THAT'LL BE AN ADDITIONAL
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DISCUSSION HERE SHORTLY.BUT, UH, WE DO HAVE TWO CURRENT VACANCIES, UH, ONE IN COUNCIL DISTRICT FOUR, ONE IN COUNCIL DISTRICT SEVEN.
AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW UP WITH THOSE, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE STAFFING TO, UH, TO SEE WHERE WE CAN, UH, HOW WE CAN WORK TO, UH, GET THOSE POSITIONS FILLED.
THAT DOES COMPLETE MY REPORT UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON A COUPLE ON THESE ITEMS. ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE.
MR. IS THERE ANY POTENTIAL PENDING LOSSES WITH, UH, SOME OF THOSE THAT ARE LESS THAN? I THINK ONE OF 'EM WAS LIKE THE 58 OR WHATEVER IT WAS, SO WE HAVE NO PENDING LOSSES, LIKE ANYBODY THAT'S GOING TO BE REMOVED.
NO, WE DID, UH, WE DID TAKE A LOSS, I GUESS SO TO SPEAK, IN I BELIEVE COUNCIL DISTRICT SEVEN RECENTLY, OR FOUR.
IT WAS FOUR COUNCIL DISTRICT FOUR, SORRY.
UM, THAT WAS A ZERO ATTENDANCE.
SO WE, WE DEFINITELY TRY TO BE UNDERSTANDING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
UM, I KNOW THERE IS SOME FLUCTUATION IN OUR CURRENT BOARD MEMBERS HERE TODAY, AND AS WELL AS THOSE WHO HAVE LEFT ARE ALWAYS REALLY, REALLY GOOD ABOUT KEEPING IN TOUCH WITH US, GIVING US THAT NOTICE IF THEY CAN ATTEND AND GIVING US, UM, ENOUGH TIME.
SO THAT'S DEFINITELY AS MUCH AS AN IMPORTANCE AS THE PHYSICAL BEING PHYSICALLY HERE.
BUT JUST KEEPING IN TOUCH WITH OUR, OUR STAFFING TO, UH, TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS.
I DON'T BELIEVE, DID WE HAVE TO CANCEL ANY BOARD HEARINGS THIS PAST YEAR DUE TO LACK OF A QUORUM? SO THAT'S A GREAT, THAT'S, THAT IS DEFINITELY WHAT WE ALWAYS STRIVE FOR IS TO JUST KEEP THE COMMUNICATION, UM, AVAILABLE SO WE CAN FILL IN WHERE WE NEED TO AND, UH, MAKE SURE WE HAVE, WE HAVE THAT READY TO GO.
IS THERE ANY TARGETED DATE ON WHEN THE TWO VACANCIES WILL BE FILLED OR ARE THEY STILL RUNNING THROUGH APPLICANTS? I DON'T THINK WE'VE GOTTEN ANY APPLICATIONS IN.
THEY, IT'S, THERE'S NOT A DEADLINE FOR IT.
SO UNTIL THE POSITIONS ARE FILLED, UM, IT'LL STAY OPEN.
AND THE CO MEMBERS WERE NOTIFIED THAT THERE WAS A VACANCY? YES SIR.
THEY WERE NOTIFIED THERE WAS A VACANCY.
AND THEY'RE NOT, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST CONFIRMING WITH JUDY.
WHAT WE DO IS TRY TO, EVERY COUPLE OF MONTHS WE'LL REACH OUT TO THEM AND JUST REMIND THEM, LETTING 'EM KNOW THE VACANCIES ARE STILL AVAILABLE IF, UH, ANYTHING ANYONE COMES AVAILABLE.
I THINK THAT THAT DOES COMPLETE MY REPORT.
MS. BROWN AND MR. NELSON BOTH SIT ON PANEL A, ONE OF THEM WILL NEED TO SWITCH OVER TO PANEL B AND ONE MEMBER FROM PANEL B WILL NEED TO SWITCH OVER TO PANEL A FOR THE NEW TERM IN JANUARY.
MS. BROWN WOULD WANNA KEEP MY PANEL.
MR. NELSON'S NOT HERE TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
SO MR. NELSON WILL BE ON, YOU SAID YOU WANNA STAY ON PANEL A, SO WE'LL SWITCH MR. NELSON OVER, OVER TO PANEL B.
AND IF A MEMBER CAME FROM PANEL B CAN SWITCH OVER TO PANEL A, UH, WE'LL PUT, UH, WHINER TO A AND THANK YOU.
NOPE, I MADE DECISION THAT'S HER LAST OFFICIAL DECISION OTHER THAN OTHER THAN RE UH, CAN LETTING THE MEETING GO, JUDY? I'M SORRY.
CAN WE ALSO CONFIRM WHEN WILL THAT TAKE EFFECT? DOES THAT TAKE EFFECT, UH, WITH THE NEXT BOARD HEARING OR NOT TILL JANUARY? THAT WOULD TAKE EFFECT IN JANUARY, A FULL BOARD ON PANEL B UNTIL THAT TAKES EFFECT.
SO THERE BE TWO VACANCIES IN PANEL.
THERE'S GONNA BE TWO VACANCIES IN PANEL A THEN NO, WE HAVE ONE VACANCY IN PANEL A, WHICH IS DISTRICT FOUR AND ONE VACANCY IN PANEL B, WHICH IS DISTRICT SEVEN.
IF THIS DOESN'T KICK IN UNTIL JANUARY, THEN SHE WILL STILL STAY AND THE OTHER INDIVIDUAL WHO'S GOING TO A WILL STAY ON PANEL B UNTIL JANUARY.
SO THAT MEANS PANEL B WILL HAVE A FULL BOARD AND PANEL A WILL HAVE TWO VACANCIES UNTIL JANUARY.
NO, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, JUDY, BUT I BELIEVE THAT, UH, UH, MR. NELSON
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AND, AND, UH, MS. BROWN ARE CURRENTLY ON THE SAME PANEL.SO YOU'RE GONNA MOVE THEM TWO SEPARATE PANELS.
SO THEREFORE YOU NEED TO MOVE SOMEBODY BACK OVER TO THE PANEL THAT MR. UH, NELSON HAS LEFT.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THEY SAID IT TAKES PLACE IN JANUARY IF HE GOES OVER AND IT ALL, ALL THE SWITCHING AND ALL, EVERYTHING ELSE IS GONNA HAPPEN IN JANUARY.
IF IT HAPPENS IN JANUARY, HOLD ON, IF YOU CAN, JUDY, CAN YOU BRING, BRING UP THAT SLIDE ONE MORE TIME? NO, SIR.
UH, THE VACANCIES WILL STAY, UM, SEPARATED ON THE TWO.
SO MOVING MR. NELSON AND MS. WEINER, UM, THERE ARE TWO WHO ARE ACTIVE, BUT SO THEY'RE GONNA, IT'S GONNA BE KIND OF, THEY'RE, WHAT I'M SEEING IS AN EVEN SWAP IN JANUARY, RIGHT? NOT RIGHT NOW.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS SHE WILL STAY IN TWO, WHICH WILL TAKE UP THE VACANCY RIGHT NOW.
I I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON SOMETHING IN JANUARY IS WHEN ALL THE SWITCHING HAPPENS, BUT HOLD ON.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, IF YOU LOOK UP AT IT, THERE'S BEEN, THERE'S NO CHANGING RIGHT NOW.
SO SHE'S GONNA STAY THE CHAIR UNTIL JANUARY? YES.
'CAUSE EARLIER THEY, ONCE THE VOTE TAKES PLACE, YEAH, SHE'S GONNA STAY.
THE, THE NEW WHAT CHAIR I'M STARTS IN JANUARY.
NO, IT'S NOT JUST ME BECAUSE THE WAY THAT LOOKS IS IF YOU'RE SWITCHING PEOPLE AND YOU TAKE THE VOTE TODAY.
AH, NO, I, I, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THIS ISN'T A, AN ADMINISTRATIVE COURT.
I DO KNOW THAT THE LAST ISSUE THAT WE HAVE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, UNLESS THERE'S SOME CHANGES IN POLICY PROCEDURES, WOULD BE COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD OR QUESTIONS BY THE BOARD.
I HAVE A, A PROPOSAL AND A SUGGESTION AND I WANTED INPUT FROM THE BOARD, UM, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T WORKED OUT ALL THE DETAILS.
UH, BUT I DID COME UP WITH THE, THE IDEA.
SO, UM, WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO DEMOLITION CASES AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD IN THE NEWSPAPER HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT, UM, SAN ANTONIO HAS A LACK OF HOUSING, WHICH WE REALLY DON'T.
'CAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF ST THAT SET VACANT FOR FOUR WEEKS OUT OF A MONTH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MAYBE ONE WEEKEND.
SO INSTEAD OF US DEMOING A HOUSE, I MEAN, WHICH IS OUR JOB, LET SEE IF I CAN EXPLAIN THIS.
NOW, WE CAN STILL DEMO THE HOUSE, BUT IF WE GIVE THE OWNER OR THE OWNER OWNER'S AGENT AN OPTION FOR 30, ONLY FOR 30 DAYS TO PUT A SIGN IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE SAYING, UM, FOR SALE, UH, REHAB ONLY, JUST FOR 30 DAYS, THIS WOULD GIVE SOMEBODY THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO BUY THE HOUSE AND REHAB IT AND PUT THAT STOCK BACK ON THE MARKET.
YOU KNOW, PUT IT BACK IN ON THE, ON THE TAX ROLLS FOR SOMEBODY TO BUY AT MAYBE WHATEVER THE GOING, THE, THE, THE LOW INCOME RATE, UH, THE, WHAT, WHAT IS IT CALLED? AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
YEAH, IT WAS AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT IT HAS A, IT HAS A RATE LIKE 60% OF THE WHATEVER IT IS A OKAY.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A WAY OF SAVING SOME OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WE DEMO CAN BE SAVED.
SOME OF THEM CANNOT BE, BUT I THOUGHT THAT IF THE ALTERNATIVE THAT WE WOULD OFFER THE OWNER TO PUT THE SIGN BY OWNER, YOU KNOW, IN THEIR YARD AND FOR, BUT IT WOULD BE FOR PURCHASE OF REHAB ONLY, AND THAT WAY, AND THEY STILL GOING, YOU KNOW, GET THE DEMO 'CAUSE AFTER THE 30 DAYS HAS EXPIRED, YOU KNOW, THEN THE BULLDOZER WOULD COME IN.
SO I JUST WANTED TO, TO SHARE THAT WITH Y'ALL AND SEE WHAT YOU THINK.
AND LIKE I SAID, I HAVEN'T WORKED OUT ALL OF THE, UM, INS AND OUTS OF IT.
UH, I DID TALK TO SAVITA ABOUT IT AND SHE SAID SHE WAS GONNA CHECK INTO THE, UM, THE TEXAS LAWS ON PROPERTY OF PROPERTY RIGHTS OR WHATEVER, AND, UH, GET BACK WITH ME.
BUT I WANNA KNOW WHAT Y'ALL THINK OF IT.
UH, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT.
WHAT IS, WHAT IS, WELL WHAT IS IS THE SUGGESTION, UM, TO PUT THE SALE UP AND THEN HAVE A WRITTEN, UM, CONTRACT TO SALE? BUT,
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SO YOU'RE SAYING FOR 30 DAYS, BUT IT TAKES MORE THAN 30 DAYS TO CLOSE ON A PROPERTY IF YOU'RE GONNA PURCHASE IT.SO IS THAT IT JUST 30 DAYS TO ENTER INTO A SALES CONTRACT? IF THEY GET A CONTRACT THAT WOULD STOP THE WRECKING BALL.
SO IN 30 DAYS, THAT WOULD STOP THE WRECKING BALL FROM COMING TO KNOCK DOWN THE PROPERTY.
UM, I JUST WANNA SEE IF WE CAN SAVE ANY OF THE PROPERTIES.
YOU KNOW, WE ARE ALL INTO PRESERVATION IF POSSIBLE.
IF, IF WE DON'T, IF WE DON'T SAVE, WE CAN'T SAVE IT, THEN WE CAN'T SAVE IT.
BUT SOME OF THE PROPERTIES, IF YOU LOOK AT 'EM, CAN BE SAVED IF WE HAVE A BUYER AND, AND WHO'S WILLING TO REHAB IT.
SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST MY SUGGESTION.
AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT GONNA, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA HURT ANYTHING BECAUSE THE WRECKING BALL WILL EVENTUALLY GET THERE.
I'M NOT GOING TO, I I, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THE, THE PROCEDURE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, UM, ALLOWS FOR, WE DON'T, WE CAN'T PREVENT SOMEBODY FROM TRYING TO, TO SELL A PROPERTY THAT HAS A DEMOLITION ORDER ON IT.
UH, WE DON'T GET INVOLVED IN THAT.
UH, BUT, BUT ONCE THAT PROPERTY IS SOLD, IF, IF SOMEONE IS, IS NOW, UM, THE OWNER OF THAT, THAT PROPERTY AND WANTS TO TRY TO WORK IT OUT, THEY'LL, THEY'LL USUALLY CALL JUDY OR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND SAID, HEY, WE WANT TO GET THIS THING REMOVED.
THEY'LL REFER 'EM OVER TO LEGAL, LEGAL WILL LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY NEED TO FILE AN APPEAL.
IF THAT APPEAL IS FILED AND THEY HAVE A, A REAL GAME PLAN, UM, TO ADDRESS THE PROPERTY AND TO REHAB IT.
UH, THE FIRST THING THAT SAVITA, UM, SAM, MYSELF, UH, OR ANY, UH, ANYBODY ELSE IN LEGAL THAT HANDLES IT, WILL CONTACT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN PERSONS WE CONTACT IS DANNY, DANNY, THIS IS THE GAME PLAN THAT THEY HAVE.
WHAT, WHAT IS, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS PROPERTY? AND WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCEDURE.
NOW, I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU, YOUR IDEA ISN'T SOMETHING THAT, UH, SHOULDN'T BE, UM, PURSUED.
I'M SURE SOME PEOPLE THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
WHAT I AM TELLING YOU IS THAT THERE IS SOMEWHAT A PROCESS TO ALLOW PERSONS, UM, TO STILL HAVE A CHANCE AT REHABBING THE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE A DEMOLITION ORDER ON THEM.
IF THEY, OKAY, JUST, JUST SAY, UH, 15 DAYS INTO THE PROCESS.
SO WE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CUSTOMER HAS PUT THE, UH, SIGN IN THE YARD AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GET A BUYER, THEY GET A BUYER.
SO 15 DAYS INTO THE PROCESS NOW.
AND SO THEY WANNA STOP THE DEMOLITION 'CAUSE THEY WANT TO BUY THE PROPERTY AND REHAB IT AND THEN SELL IT FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE, THE, WHAT IS THE A M I, WHATEVER IT IS.
AND SO THEY COULD DO THAT, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE, THE ORDER THE, THE BUYER COULD STOP THE ORDER, COULD STOP THE DEMO ORDER, RIGHT? TO APPEAL A DEMOLITION TO APPEAL A BOARD'S ORDER, IT NEEDS TO BE FILED IN DISTRICT COURT.
YOU NEED TO HAVE A VESTED INTEREST.
UM, YOU NEED TO HAVE STANDING.
SO NO, I DON'T BELIEVE A POTENTIAL BUYER COULD APPEAL A DECISION FROM THIS BOARD.
IT WOULD'VE TO BE THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY TO APPEAL THE DECISION THAT THE BOARD PROVIDED.
OKAY, WELL WHAT ABOUT A, A TRIAL CASE, YOU KNOW, TO, TO SAVE A PROPERTY AND SEE HOW IT WORKS OUT.
YOU KNOW, IF IT DOESN'T WORK OUT, WE CAN ALWAYS GO BACK TO DEMOING, YOU KNOW? UH, BUT I, I JUST THINK THAT THE PRESERVATION, YOU KNOW, OF ONE PROPERTY THAT WE SEE THAT COULD BE AN ALTERNATE TO A DEMO.
UM, IF THE OWNER IS NOT WILLING TO FIX IT UP, IT DOESN'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO FIX IT UP OR WHATEVER THAT CASE MAY BE, BUT THE BUYER MIGHT BE ABLE TO, TO FIX IT UP AND, YOU KNOW, THEN SELL IT TO WHOMEVER.
I, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THE HOUSING STOCK AND I'M THINKING ABOUT, UM, THE PRESERVATION OF THE HOUSE.
IF IT CAN BE SAVED AND THE BUYER IS WILLING TO PUT THE MONEY INTO IT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING.
AND, AND IT COULD JUST BE A, A TEST CASE.
IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A, A FULL FLEDGED PROGRAM, BUT I THINK A TEST CASE MIGHT PROVE WHETHER IT WOULD WORK OR NOT.
I, I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD DO THAT.
THIS IS, THIS IS EMIN THOMAS' DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
SO JUST REAL QUICK, LIKE LEGAL SAID ERIC, HE MENTIONED THAT WE KIND OF DO SOME OF THAT NOW, AS YOU SAID, MAYBE IT'S NOT A PROGRAM, BUT, UH, WE DO ENTER TO A COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT WITH I GUESS THE NEW OWNER IF YOU WILL.
SO IF SOMEBODY SELLS THE PROPERTY,
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UH, DURING THAT TIMEFRAME, THE 30 DAYS AFTER THE ORDER IS MADE, UH, IF THEY ENTER INTO A SALES AGREEMENT AND THEY BUY THE PROPERTY, THEY COME TO US, SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT I WANNA DO.I HAVE THE MEANS, I HAVE EVERYTHING WE DO ENTER, UH, INTO A COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT WITH THEM AND WE GIVE THEM THE TIME THAT THEY NEED.
NOW, AGAIN, IF THEY ASK FOR 90 DAYS AND THE 90 DAYS PASSES AND NOTHING HAPPENS, THEN ACTUALLY THE DEMO ORDER IS STILL IN EFFECT AND THEN WE GO FORWARD WITH THAT.
BUT IF THEY DO REPAIR IT, THEN IT'S DONE DEAL.
SO AGAIN, WE DO THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT THERE IS NO STIPULATION ABOUT THEY NEED TO REHAB IT FOR THE 80% OR 60% A M I.
IT'S THEY, THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S PROBABLY THE ONLY THING DIFFERENT BETWEEN WHAT YOU'RE ASKING AND WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW IS TO MAKE SURE IT IS DONE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO AGAIN, I DUNNO, WE, WE CAN LOOK INTO IT.
I'LL TALK TO ERIC AND SAVITA AND WE WILL LOOK INTO THAT.
LIKE I SAID, IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO.
AND UH, AND, AND LIKE I SAID, I DON'T HAVE ALL THE RAMIFICATIONS.
I DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE, THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF TEXAS.
THE OTHER, OTHER NIGHT I WAS DOING SOMETHING AND, AND I SAID, WELL, THAT MIGHT WORK.
I MEAN IT, LIKE I SAID, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, UM, A PROGRAM.
IT COULD JUST BE A TEST CASE TO SEE IF IT WOULD WORK.
IT COULD JUST, UH, BE DO ONE ONE HOUSE THAT WE SEE ON THE PITCH FROM THE PICTURES THAT YEAH, BUT THIS HOUSE COULD BE SAVED IF THE BUYER IS WILLING TO DO THE ALTERNATIVE BECAUSE HE KNOWS THE, THE DEMOLITION BALL IS COMING EVENTUALLY.
SO I, I'M JUST, I'M JUST THINKING OUT OF THE BOX TO TRY TO SAVE A HOUSE OR TWO OR THREE AND UM, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S Y'ALL'S JOB TO COME UP WITH THE GUIDELINES AND ALL THAT.
'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN DO IT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT IMPLEMENTED.
OKAY, MS. BROWN, WE, WE WILL LOOK INTO THAT.
ONLY REASON WHY I SUGGESTED IT IS BECAUSE INDIGNITY HILL, THERE'S THREE LADIES, ME, UM, AND, AND TWO OTHER LADIES.
WE WORK ON ZONING CASES AND WE WORK ON, UM, THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMITTEE.
THAT'S US IS ONLY THREE OF US.
AND WE ARE HEROES BECAUSE WE SAVED A, A TWO, LOTS OF LAND FROM BEING REZONED WHEN TWO DEVELOPERS WANTED TO BUILD SIX HOUSES ON TWO, TWO LOTS, TWO STORY HOUSES THAT, THAT, AND, UH, THEY GOT A NO FROM H D R C, THEY GOT A NO FROM ZONING.
AND THEN THEY STILL WENT FORWARD TO, UM, TO, UH, CITY COUNCIL.
AND WE HAD GONE AROUND, WE HAD WALKED BLOCKED, WE HAD BLOCKED WALK AND DONE A LOT OF THINGS TO TRY TO GET THIS PROPERTY TO SAY NO, YOU KNOW, NO TO THIS PROPERTY.
AND WE HAD, UH, OUR CITY COUNCIL PERSON ON OUR SIDE, WE HAD OUR ZONING PERSON ON OUR SIDE.
AND THEN AT THE END OF THE VOTE, WHICH DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME, THE MAYOR, HE COMES UP AND SAYS SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT LIKE, WELL, I, I, I'M, I DON'T UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WE NEED HOUSING AND, AND WE CERTAINLY NEED SIX HOUSES ON TWO LOTS.
AND EVERYBODY WAS LIKE THROWING DAGGERS AT HIM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE HE DIDN'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT REALLY.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, HE KEEPS SAYING THERE'S A HOUSING SHORTAGE AND WE KEEP SAYING THERE ISN'T, BUT WE KNOW WHAT WE WANT IN OUR COMMUNITY VERSUS HIM.
SO I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A HOUSING SHORTAGE, FINE, BUT WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
BUT WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
JUST TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT, WE DO HAVE A HUGE SHORTAGE OF HOUSING, BUT AFFORD WHAT IS CALLED AFFORDABLE.
WHAT IS ACTUALLY AFFORDABLE IS VERY, VERY DIFFERENT.
UM, THERE'S ACTUALLY A NATIONAL, UM, REPORT THAT COMES OUT ANNUALLY AND RIGHT NOW FOR EVERY A HUNDRED FAMILIES IN TEXAS, UM, AT 30% A M I, UM, THERE IS ONLY, UM, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS 60% UNITS OR SIX FAMILIES.
SIX FAMILIES OUT OF A HUNDRED CAN FIND A UNIT AT 30% A M I AND BELOW.
AND, UM, WHILE YOU LOOK AT 100% OF THE POVERTY LINE, WHICH IS 100%
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A M I, THERE ARE 108 UNITS AVAILABLE FOR EVERY A HUNDRED FAMILIES.SO THERE'S EIGHT EMPTY UNITS THAT ARE NOT NEEDED AT THAT INCOME LEVEL.
SO FOR THE, THE INDIVIDUALS WHO, YOU KNOW, MAKE A LOT OF MONEY, THEY CAN AFFORD TO LIVE ANYWHERE AND THERE'S PLENTY OF HOUSING FOR THEM.
THERE'S NOT HOUSING FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ELDERLY AND LIVE OFF SOCIAL SECURITY.
YEAH, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
YOU KNOW, BUT NOBODY WANTS TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE THEY CLAIM THEY CAN'T GET THEIR MONEY BACK, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS CRAP IF YOU ASK ME, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M NOT THE BUILDER, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY GIVES THEM INCENTIVES TO BUILD HOUSES, THEY MAKE MONEY OFF OF 'EM, AND, BUT THEY BUILD THESE LIKE 10 STORY APARTMENTS AND CHARGE MARKET RATES.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT AFFORDABLE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT MAKE EIGHT OR NINE OR $10 AN HOUR.
I, I, I THOROUGHLY AGREE WITH THAT.
AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A LOT OF THE, THE FIGHT THAT THAT, THAT WE HAVE.
UM, AND I, I AGREE ON THE DENSITY LEVELS AS WELL BECAUSE IT HASN'T, LADIES, I'M GONNA ENVIRONMENTAL, I APPRECIATE THIS CONVERSATION, BUT I, I, I GOTTA KEEP US, UM, FOCUSED ON THE B S B ISSUES OR, OR LET'S, LET'S, LET'S WRAP THINGS UP.
UH, I THOUGHT THIS WAS THE COMMENT SECTION WHERE WE CAN JUST MAKE COMMENTS.
NO, THIS IS THE QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, BUT YOU GUYS AREN'T QUE HAVING ANY QUESTIONS, WHICH IS ALL GOOD.
I I, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, WE, WE WILL LOOK INTO IT.
WELL, I, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT THERE ARE, UM, THIS IS THE LAST WEEK FOR THE HOMEOWNER REHAB, UH, APPLICATIONS TO GO IN.
SO, UM, ANYONE YOU KNOW, AT HOME WATCHING, IF, UH, YOU OWN YOUR HOME AND YOU NEED, UH, FUNDS TO FIX IT UP, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE LAST WEEK YOU CAN APPLY.
AND THAT'S THROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, SERVICES, THE N H S D WEBSITE.
UM, YOU CAN ALSO LOOK AT, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WEBSITES AND THEY HAVE THE LINKS TO GO TO THE APPLICATIONS.
UM, ALSO FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO OWN RENTAL PROPERTIES.
THE R F P PROCESS WILL, IS CLOSING IN OCTOBER.
UM, IF THEY'RE LOOKING FOR FUNDING TO FIX THOSE UP.
HEY KAYLA, WE CAN'T THANK YOU MS. MIRANDA.
UM, YES, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, WE ARE ADJOURNED.