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SOMEBODY FROM INTERPRETIVE SERVICES PROCEED.
SO, UM, YOU CAN ACTUALLY, BEFORE WE DO THAT, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN, I, AYE, I, YES.
MOVING ON TO CITIZENS, PROBABLY IN DECLARED
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THIS SINCE THEN.THEY OPPORTUNITY, THEY WERE TO PURPOSELY DESTROY TREE PRESERVATION PLAN AND NOW THE CITY COMPLAINED ABOUT THAT, WHERE THE LARGE TREE CAN STAY.
SO I KNOW YOU GUYS CAN'T DO, BUT I KNOW PROJECTS AND EVERY TIME YOU, EVERY TIME YOU ASK FOR SOMEONE, HALF THE TIME, WE'LL HIGHER UP AND SAY ALL YOU CAN DO.
SO WHAT DOES I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND WE'RE WORKING ANYTHING ABOUT THIS UNDER, I'M ALSO, AT WHICH POINT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS JUST THAT PROCESS.
WE DID STRUCTURE SOME AN THAT HAS HAPPENED.
UM, IN THE PHOTOS HERE, UH, SEVERAL OF THEM READY? THERE'S SOMEONE INTERVIEWED PRIOR TO AFTER THEY CAME OUT, THEY HAVE DONE ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION ROUNDS WITH AND WE HEAR THAT WHAT WE, THOSE TREES.
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GOOD AFTERNOON.MY NAME IS KATHY VIC, 1 0 7 KING WILLIAMS STREET, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 4.
THIS IS IN REGARDS TO ITEM NUMBER ONE.
FOLLOWING OUR MEETING WITH THE ALAMO TRUST, THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY OF SAN ANTONIO REMAINS CONCERNED REGARDING THE PROPOSAL TO RECONSTRUCT THE LYNETTE AND SOUTHGATE AND ALAMO PLAZA.
FIRST, IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT ALL STATE, FEDERAL, AND LOCAL LAWS FOR CULTURAL RESOURCES FOLLOWED PRECISELY SINCE THE SITE CARRIES ALL THREE DESIGNATIONS.
THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION MUST REVIEW AS STATED BY THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
THIS IS A RECORDED ARCHEOLOGICAL SITE THAT INCLUDES REMAINS OF THE ORIGINAL SOUTH GATE, WHICH EXISTED IN SOME FORM FOR NEARLY A CENTURY AND A HALF.
IT IS NOT CONSIDERED GOOD PRACTICE TO BUILD STRUCTURES ON TOP OF SIGNIFICANT ARCHEOLOGICAL REMAINS.
IT WOULD BE BETTER TO CREATE AN INTERPRETIVE ELEMENT AT GROUND LEVEL SHOULD THESE REGULATORY BARRIERS BE OVERCOME.
WE WOULD STILL FIND THE SCALE AND HEIGHT OF THE NEW CONSTRUCTION TOO LARGE AND DISRUPTIVE FOR THE PLAZA.
IT DISTRACTS FROM THE ORIGINAL BUILDINGS AND RISK BEING MISTAKEN.
THE ALAMO, ALONG WITH THE OTHER FOUR SAN ANTONIO MISSIONS WAS INSCRIBED AS A WORLD HERITAGE SITE DUE TO ITS MISSION HISTORY AND THE CURRENT PLAN, LYNETTE, THAT EXISTED FOR TWO YEARS DURING THE LATTER PERIOD PREDOMINATES.
MOREOVER, THE HEIGHT, THE ISSUES OF HEIGHT AND SCALE RAISED ABOVE ARE ALSO WORLD HERITAGE CONCERNS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
I'M, I'M ADDRESSING ITEM NUMBER ONE AT THE ADDRESS OF 300 ALAMO PLAZA REGARDING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE MISSION GATE AND NETTE.
THERE ARE TWO PROBLEMS WITH THIS PROPOSAL.
NUMBER ONE, IT VIOLATES THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR'S DESIGN STANDARDS AND NUMBER TWO, THIS INHIBITS THE USE OF ALAMO PLAZA AS AN OPEN SPACE FOR THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS.
WHEN THE DEED TRANSFERS FROM THE CATHOLIC CHURCH TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IN 1871, THE RENDERING OF THIS MASSIVE LOOKING GATE IS HIDEOUS.
NOT ONLY IS IT UGLY, BUT IT SURELY DOES NOT MEET THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS.
THIS IS NOTHING SHORT OF A CORE DESIGN.
THE SCALE SEEMS OFF, THE MATERIALS APPEAR INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE AMO AND A PRIOR RENDERING OF THE SOUTH GATE WAS PROVIDED DURING THE TIME YOU ALL WANTED TO RELOCATE THE CEMETERY, WHICH I WILL EMAIL THIS TO YOU.
WHY IS THE CURRENT VERSION OF THE GATE SO INCREDIBLY DIFFERENT FROM THE VERSION PROPOSED BEFORE? WHAT HISTORIC EVIDENCE DO YOU HAVE THAT THE GATE LOOKS LIKE THIS, APPLYING THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS, WHICH IS YOUR JOB AS AN H D R C MEMBER.
YOU SHOULD REALIZE THIS SHOULD NOT BE APPROVED BECAUSE OF ITS SCALE, UNKNOWN MATERIALS AND LACK OF HISTORIC REPRESENTATION.
REGARDING NUMBER TWO, WHEN BISHOP OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH TRANSFERRED THE LAND TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, THE DEED HAD A STIPULATION OR RESTRICTION THAT THE PLAZAS BE JOINED INTO ONE ALAMO PLAZA, WHICH COULD, WHICH WOULD ALWAYS BE RESTRICTED TO PUBLIC USE OF AN OPEN SPACE.
THE CITY ESCAPE A SPACE AND DENIGRATE THE IDEA OF AN OPEN SPACE FOR THE PUBLIC.
THIS DEED, WHICH CAN BE FOUND IN THE BEXAR COUNTY SEED RECORDS FROM 1871 WILL ALSO BE SUBMITTED TO YOU.
PLEASE DO NOT APPROVE THIS HIDEOUS PROPOSAL FOR WHICH IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE ALAMO.
I'VE BEEN IN SAN ANTONIO 41 YEARS.
I'VE WORKED ON THE PLAZA FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION FOR 42 YEARS IN SAN ANTONIO.
I AM APPALLED AT WHAT IS GOING ON WITH ALAMO PLAZA.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF REMARKABLY TALENTED, CLASSICALLY TRAINED TRADITIONAL ARCHITECTS IN SAN ANTONIO, AND YET HERE WE ARE DOING A B-MOVIE SET DESIGN ON OUR PLAZA, ARGUABLY ONE OF THE MOST CLASSICAL PLAZAS IN THE NATION.
AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO OUR PLAZA.
IT DOESN'T JUST BELONG TO THE TOURISTS, IT BELONGS TO THE CITIZENS OF FAIR COUNTY.
AND THIS IS WHAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
I'M APPALLED AND I'M SADDENED.
HELLO, MY NAME IS CHARISMA AL AND I'M CALLING FROM TO TEXAS.
UM, I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO CASE, UH, ITEM NUMBER ONE, CASE NUMBER 2022 DASH FOUR 14.
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UM, THE DRAWINGS FOR ALAMO PLAZA, UM, I WANTED TO BRING TO THE ATTENTION OF THE COMMITTEE, UM, A REMINDER THAT, UH, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE SENATE TAB STILL STANDS IS BECAUSE NOT ALL THE I'S WERE DOTTED AND THE TS WERE CROSSED.UM, IT APPEARS THAT THERE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT ARE, UH, GOING TO BE PRESENTED TO YOU THAT MAYBE NOT ALL ITEMS HAVE BEEN CHECKED.
UM, ONE BEING THE, UM, THE FACT THAT IT VIOLATES THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR'S DESIGN STANDARD.
UM, AND IT ALSO INHIBITS THE USE OF ALAMO PLAZA AS AN OPEN SPACE PER THE DEED RESTRICTIONS.
UM, SO IF YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER THAT BEFORE GETTING ANY BLANKET OKAYS OR STATEMENTS.
UM, ALSO IS THIS, UM, ARE, ARE ALL THE DESIGN ITEMS INCLUDED? UM, WHAT ARE THE MATERIALS? ARE THEY, ARE THEY, UM, IN AGREEMENT WITH THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS? UM, SO AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED BEFORE GOING THROUGH THIS.
UM, AND ALSO IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WAS NO LONGER INVOLVED WITH THE, UM, DECISIONS AS PER THE ALAMO.
UH, WE BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS, UH, SOMETHING THAT WAS UP TO THE STATE AND THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE.
SO AGAIN, BEFORE DECISIONS ARE MADE, MAKE SURE ALL YOUR I'S ARE DOTTED AND YOUR T'S ARE CROSSED, OR YOU MAY END UP WITH ANOTHER SITUATION WHERE YOU WANTED TO MOVE THE SENATE TASK AND ENDS UP THAT IT, THAT IT COULD NOT BE MOVED, UH, DUE TO THE, UM, PROTECTION FROM THE ANTIQUITIES LANDMARKS.
AGAIN, MY NAME IS CHARISMA VIAL AND I'M FROM HELLO TEXAS.
THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO CASE NUMBER 2022 DASH FOUR FOUR FOR ALAMO PLAZA.
ANY OTHER ITEMS WISH TO ANSWER? YES SIR.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I SUPPOSE I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER.
UM, IS IT, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE COMMISSION CAN REQUEST A D R C SITE VISIT FOR THE LIZ DAVIES GREEN SPACE THAT WE'VE HEARD ABOUT AT THE TOP OF THE COMMENTS? IF IT IS POSSIBLE, I WOULD ENCOURAGE STAFF TO ARRANGE, WELL ACTUALLY TAKE SURE YOU JUST, GREAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION HAVE SECOND.
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AYE AYE.YOU'RE ON THE AT 1105, THE CASE IS BEEN APPROVED.
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE? ITEM NUMBER ONE, HRC CASE NUMBER 20 22 4 4 300 ALA PLAZA, THE APPLICANT ALAMO TRUSTING CERTIFICATE OBSTRUCT INTERPRETATION OF THE GATE LUNETTE AND IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PROPOSED STAFF APPROVED ON DETAILS.
TWO, THAT THE, THAT THE FINAL, THAT A FINAL MATERIAL OR VISUAL MOCK SHOULD BE STAFFED BASED ON THREE, THAT ALL INTERPRETIVE SHOULD BE DEVELOPED.
ARCHEOLOGY, THEOLOGICAL INVESTIGATIONS THEOLOGY CONSULTANT SHALL PRIOR TO THE BEGINNING, INVESTIGATIONS ON THROUGHOUT.
IS ANDY REPRESENTATIVE TODAY GONNA REVIEW SHORTLY.
UH, THE DESIGN TEAM LED BY PATRICK LEY VIEWED ALL AVAILABLE ARCHIVAL EVIDENCE AND TO PLACEMENT MATERIALS FOR THE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE AND A ADVISORY ADVISORY COMMITTEE WERE A NUMBER OF MEETINGS IN WHICH THE US DIFFERENT ELEMENTS, UH, AND THOSE WERE, AS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE, ROBUST AND PROFESSIONS.
MEMBERS OF BOTH THE ALAMO CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE, BOTH AT THEIR QUARTERLY MEETING WERE INVITED TO A DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MADE BY THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE CHAIRS.
SEE, WE DISCUSSED THE DESIGN, THERE WERE NO MEMBERS.
OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS, MAKE SURE THAT WE LOOKED AT PLAZA THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE COMMITTEE
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WITH THAT GALLAGHER GALLAGHER SLIDE THE DESIGNS.UM, I WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING US THE TIME AND PATIENCE TO BRING THIS CONCEPT FORWARD AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO ALL COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.
AS ANDY HAD MENTIONED, THE PROCESS OF PLANNING AND IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAMMING FOR THE SKATE HAS GONE THROUGH A SERIES VERY ARDUOUS INTERNAL MEETINGS WITH HISTORIANS AND ARCHEOLOGISTS TO DEFINE THE APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS FOR A REPRESENTATION OF THE MISSION GATE AND TEMPORARY, THE NET INSTALLATION.
IT IS THE MISSION OF THE A T I OF THE ALAMO TRUST TO ENRICH FOR ITS VISITORS THE INTERPRETATION AND THE NARRATIVE OF THE HISTORICAL VOICE WHEN THEY'RE ON THE SITE AND EXPLORING THE, BOTH THE EXISTING BUILDINGS, THE PROPOSED NEW VISITOR CENTER, BUT ALSO THE PLAZA AND THE LOCATION FOR THE MISSION GATE AND WALLS THEMSELVES.
THAT SENSE OF UNDERSTANDING IS PART OF AN EDUCATIONAL MANDATE THAT HAS BEEN A COMMITMENT FROM THE A T I TO ENHANCE VISITOR ENGAGEMENT AND KNOWLEDGE AS THEY NAVIGATE THEIR WAY AROUND THE SITE.
AS PART OF THE OVERALL INTERPRETIVE MASTER PLAN FOR THE ALAMO TRUST, ALAMO TRUST, WE HAVE DIVIDED THE ENTIRE CAMPUS INTO A SERIES OF DIFFERENT ZONES OR DISTRICTS THAT WILL EACH HAVE, UH, THEIR OWN INTERPRETIVE VOICE OR STORYTELLING THAT WILL HELP THE VISITORS UNDERSTAND NOT ONLY THE HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE OF THE EVENTS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE IN EACH LOCATION, BUT ALSO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVED AND OCCUPIED THIS SITE, WHICH IS A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR VISITORS UNDERSTANDING THE 300 YEAR HISTORY OF THIS VERY COMPLEX SITE AND THE UNIQUE VOICES OF THE INDIVIDUAL CULTURAL GROUPS WHO BOTH LIVED HERE AND WHO HAVE BEEN A PART OF DEFINING THE LONGER HISTORICAL NARRATIVE.
SO EACH OF THESE DISTRICTS HAVE HAD, HAS BEEN OVERLAID WITH A SERIES OF PARTICULAR INTERPRETIVE VOICES THAT VISITORS WILL ENGAGE WITH THROUGH A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT TECHNIQUES.
SOME OF THAT WILL BE EXTERIOR EXHIBITRY, SOME OF THAT WILL BE ON A DIGITAL APPLICATE APPLICATION THAT VISITORS CAN CARRY ON THEIR PHONES.
SOME OF IT WILL BE IN THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES, THE NEW VISITOR CENTER AND MUSEUM EXHIBITION SPACE IN THE NEW COLLECTIONS, BUILDING AND INTERPRETATION IN THE LONG BARRACKS IN THE CHURCH AS WELL.
BUT THE SITE IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THAT NARRATIVE, GETTING OUR VISITORS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE BREADTH AND DEPTH OF THE MISSION AND WHERE THE FOUR WALLS WERE AND ALL THE DIFFERENT BUILDINGS THAT OCCUPIED IN AND AROUND THE SITE IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF UNDERSTANDING THIS LARGE COMPLEX HISTORICAL NARRATIVE.
WE'VE BROKEN UP OUR DEFINITIONS OF THE NARRATIVE INTO A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT TIME PERIODS.
SO THERE IS A CHRONOLOGICAL APPROACH TO THE INTERPRETATION THAT WILL HAPPEN BOTH ON THE SITE AND AROUND THE SITE AS WELL AS IN THE NEW VISITOR CENTER AND MUSEUM.
IN EACH OF THE ZONES THAT WERE INDICATED IN THE FIRST PLAN, WE THEN LOOK AT THE OVERLAY OF THE POINTS OF EMPHASIS FOR INTERPRETATION.
SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IN THE COLOR CODED ZONES IS HOW WE WILL BE INTERPRETING EACH OF THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS WITH ENHANCED ENGAGEMENT FOR OUR VISITORS.
AND I WOULD REMIND YOU THAT IN AND AROUND THE ENTIRE SITE, ALL THIS INTERPRETATION WILL BE PART OF THE FREE NARRATIVE OF EXPLORING AND ENGAGING ON SITE.
SO GREAT WORK IS GOING INTO THE HISTORICAL RESEARCH AND THE BUILDING OF THE THESE NARRATIVES AND DETERMINING THE MOST APPROPRIATE INTERPRETIVE TOOLS THAT WILL BEGIN TO UNFOLD OVER THE NEXT NUMBER OF MONTHS AND YEARS TO COME.
THE NEW PROPOSED MISSION GATE WILL BE ONE OF THOSE FIRST ZONES OF INTERPRETATION.
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THIS OVERLAY WILL BE AN ONGOING PART OF HOW WE ENHANCE AND ENGAGE OUR VISITORS THROUGHOUT THE EVOLUTION OF THE WORK THAT HAPPENS IN THE YEARS TO COME IN AND AROUND THE ALAMO SITE.WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IN THIS SLIDE IN RED IS THE INDICATION OF THE HISTORICAL DEFINITION OF THE MISSION.
WALLS, AS YOU CAN SEE OFF TO YOUR LEFT IN BLACK, IS AN OVERLAY FOR WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS THE, THE INTERPRETATION OF THE MISSION GATE AND THE LUNETTE JUST BELOW THAT.
ALSO IN BLACK IS A PALISADE INSTALLATION, WHICH IS ON SITE NOW.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE LOCATION OF THE WALLS WILL RUN THROUGH THE NEW VISITOR CENTER AND MUSEUM.
THAT'LL BE PART OF A VERY IMPORTANT NARRATIVE ON THE GROUND FLOOR OF THE NEW MUSEUM AND VISITOR CENTER.
AND THEN THE DEFINITIONS AS IT RUNS ACROSS HOUSTON STREET, AROUND TO WHERE THE NORTH GATE WAS.
AND ULTIMATELY THERE WILL BE A REPRESENTATION OF THE NORTH GATE AS WELL TO HELP VISITORS UNDERSTAND THE DEFINITION OF WHAT THE PLAZA REALLY WAS WHEN IT WAS WITHIN THE CONTAINED WALLS OF THE MISSION.
IT'S ALSO THE GOAL OF A T I AS WELL AS THE T H C TO ENHANCE THE REVERENCE OF THIS SITE.
SO BY DE MARKING THE MISSION GATE, WE ANTICIPATE BRINGING THE VISITORS INTO A FULL NEW SENSE OF REVERENCE AND ENGAGEMENT AND STORYTELLING ON THE SITE.
THIS IS A PLAN VIEW OF THE PROPOSED GATE AND LUNETTE, AND WE HAVE SOME RENDERINGS THAT BETTER ILLUSTRATE WHAT THE DIMENSIONAL REPRESENTATION WILL BE.
HERE'S A VIEW COMING UP THE PROMENADE.
YOU CAN SEE THE, YOU CAN SEE THE SENATE'S APP IN THE FAR BACK OF THE RENDERING AND THE PROPOSED MISSION GATE REPRESENTATION AND THE LUNETTE.
THE RESEARCH THAT WAS DONE TO DETERMINE THIS LOCATION IS BASED ON ARCHEOLOGICAL RESEARCH, HISTORICAL DRAWINGS AND MAPS, AS WELL AS THE GUIDANCE OF A NUMBER OF HISTORIANS TO VERIFY NOT ONLY THE LOCATION BUT THE MATERIALS.
THE MATERIALITY OF THE GATE WILL BE BEST REPRESENTED FROM THE ARCHEOLOGICAL WORK THAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY ON THE SITE WILL BE A STONE AND PLASTER REPRESENTATION AND IT IS A REPRESENTATION WE'RE NOT INTENDING FOR THIS TO BE, TO BE A RECREATION.
WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE OUR VISITORS UNDERSTAND THAT MOMENT OF STEPPING INTO THE FORT AND REALLY REPRESENTING THE SOUTH BOUNDARIES OF THE PLAZA ITSELF.
HERE'S A, HERE'S A VIEW OFF TO YOUR LEFT FROM WHERE YOU WERE PREVIOUSLY IN, IN THE PREVIOUS RENDERING.
THE CHURCH WILL BE OFF TO YOUR RIGHT AND YOU CAN SEE THAT VISITORS WILL BE ABLE TO PASS THROUGH THIS LUNETTE AND THROUGH THE GATE.
THERE ARE NO PHYSICAL BARRIERS IN THE FORM OF GATES OR DOORS AS WE BELIEVE.
THERE NEVER WAS A PHYSICAL GATE IN THE MISSION GATE ITSELF.
THERE MAY HAVE BEEN AT ONE TIME A WOODEN DOOR, BUT WE WILL NOT BE REPRESENTING THAT IN THIS CONSTRUCTION.
THE GATE ITSELF IS OPEN NORTH, SOUTH AND EAST AND WEST.
SO PASSAGE THROUGH AS VISITORS NAVIGATE THE SITE WILL BE FREE AND AND EASY FOR BOTH INTERPRETATION BY OUR LIVE REENACTORS AS WELL AS A FULL HOST OF INTERPRETIVE MATERIALS THAT WILL BE RESIDENT WITHIN THE GATE AND WITHIN THE LUNETTE.
THIS IS A VIEW FROM THE CHURCH SIDE.
SO IF YOU WERE COMING FROM THE CHURCH, YOU CAN SEE THE PASSAGE THROUGH THE GATE.
REPRESENTATION ITSELF IS VERY OPEN AND FREE.
FLOWING ON THE WALLS WILL BE INTERPRETED.
EXHIBIT ELEMENTS THAT WILL HELP VISITORS TO UNDERSTAND WHO BUILT THE GATE, HOW IT WAS BUILT, WHERE THE MATERIALS CAME FROM, THE EVOLUTION OF ITS LIFE AS IT EXISTED IN AND AROUND THE MISSION ITSELF.
AT ONE TIME THIS PART OF THE GATE WAS ACTUALLY USED AS A KITCHEN.
SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW PEOPLE LIVED ON THIS SITE AND DURING THE DIFFERENT TIMES OF OCCUPATION AND ALL THE DIFFERENT PEOPLES WHO POPULATED THE MISSION STRUCTURES THEMSELVES.
AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE LUNETTE, WHO CREATED THE LUNETTE, THE MATERIALS THAT IT WAS BUILT OUT OF AND WHAT IT REPRESENTED TO THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION IN FRONT OF THE GATE.
YOU'RE NOW STANDING ON THE PLAZA SIDE.
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PROPOSED GATE OFF THE LEFT, THERE ARE A SERIES OF PANELS THAT ARE NOW RESIDENT IN THE GARDEN.THEY'RE A TIMELINE OF THE ALAMO.
THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE GARDEN FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
THE GARDEN'S GOING TO SEE SOME, UH, REWORK OVER THE NEXT NUMBER OF YEARS.
SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO BRING THOSE PANELS OUT AND MAKE THEM AVAILABLE FOR INTERPRETATION HERE ON THE EDGE OF THE PLAZA.
SO THEY'LL BE REPRESENTED ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE GATE HERE.
AND YOU'RE ON THE PLAZA SIDE SO THAT YOU CAN SEE STRAIGHT THROUGH AND DOWN TO THE SOUTH AND OFF TO THE RIGHT, YOU NOTE THAT THIS GATE HAS BEEN PULLED BACK SO THAT THIS IS AN OPEN PLAZA ACCESS.
THE PARADE ROUTE IS DEFINED HERE SO THAT THE PARADE WILL BE ABLE TO PASS BY THE GATE WITHOUT ANY OBSTRUCTION.
AND THE FREE FLOW OF VISITORS COMING UP FROM THE SOUTH WILL NOT BE OBSTRUCTED AS WELL SO THAT THEY CAN COME ONTO THE PLAZA AND ARE NOT FORCED TO MOVE THROUGH THE GATE.
NEXT SLIDE HERE IS A VIEW FROM CLOSE TO THE CORNER OF THE NEW VISITOR CENTER AND MUSEUM.
FOR THOSE OF YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE, IT'S NEAR THE LOCATION OF THE, THE TEMPORARY LOCATION OF THE 18 POUNDER RIGHT NOW.
SO YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A, A VERY WIDE OPEN PASSAGEWAY AND CIRCULATION WILL BE MANAGED VERY EASILY, EVEN WITH THE LARGEST CROWDS.
AND FOR EVENTS, WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT PART OF VISITORS HAVING THAT SENSE OF CONTEXTUAL UNDERSTANDING WHERE WERE THE WALLS THEMSELVES AND HOW DID THIS MISSION REPRESENT ITSELF IN AND AROUND THE ENTIRE SITE.
THERE WILL BE REPRESENT REPRESENTATION IN THE HORIZONTAL SERVICES AS WELL, SO THAT AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THE WALLS CONTINUED AND THAT WILL MOVE THEN IN AND THROUGH THE NEW VISITOR CENTER MUSEUM.
THERE'S AN AERIAL VIEW, GIVE YOU A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THE INSIDE OF THE LUNETTE IN ITS DIMENSION WILL FEEL LIKE.
THERE WILL BE INTERPRETIVE PANELS INSIDE THE LUNETTE AS WELL.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THE LANDSCAPE CHANGES REPRESENT WHAT WAS AN EXCAVATION AROUND THE LUNETTE JUST PRIOR TO THE BATTLE, THERE WAS A VERY DEEP EXCAVATION TO HELP CREATE THE LUNETTE ITSELF AND THAT WILL BE REPRESENTED IN INTERPRETED INSIDE THE LUNETTE.
NEXT SLIDE, AGAIN, A LONG VIEW OFF TO THE RIGHT, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE NEW VISITOR CENTER AND MUSEUM IN THE BACKGROUND SEE THAT THIS WILL BE A, AN IDEAL LOCATION FOR EDUCATION WITH OUR COSTUME INTERPRETERS AND SCHOOL GROUPS AND BE PART OF THE BROADER MOVEMENT BY THE A T I TO REALLY ENHANCE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMMING IN AND AROUND THE SITE.
THIS IS A VIEW INSIDE THE LUNETTE.
THE LUNETTE IS A TEMPORARY STRUCTURE, SO WE'LL HAVE AN APPROXIMATELY THREE YEAR LIFESPAN OUT ON THE SITE.
AND THE MATERIALS ARE BEST REPRESENTED FROM WHAT WAS DISCOVERED IN SOME PREVIOUS ARCHEOLOGY ON SITE.
NEXT SLIDE, AGAIN, ANOTHER AERIAL VIEW.
LOOKING DOWN, WE THINK THE OPENNESS AND CHARACTER OF THIS WILL REALLY HELP ENHANCE THE, FOR THE VISITORS, THEIR BROADER SENSE OF STORYTELLING, UH, ABOUT THE SITE AND THE ALAMO ITSELF.
NEXT SLIDE, CLOSE IN VIEW THE EDGES OF THE GATE ON BOTH THE LEFT AND RIGHT HAND SIDES WILL HAVE EXPOSED STONES SO VISITORS WILL UNDERSTAND HOW THIS GATE WAS BUILT AND THE MATERIALS FROM THIS REGION, AGAIN, ALL RESEARCHED BY OUR ARCHEOLOGICAL AND HISTORICAL TEAMS SO THAT WE'RE REPRESENTING THE, TO THE BEST OF OUR KNOWLEDGE WHAT THE MATERIALS, THE ORIGINAL GATE WERE.
NEXT SLIDE VIEW FOR VISITORS ARE WALKING UP TO THE GATE AND OFF TO THE RIGHT WILL BE OUR INTERPRETIVE AREA.
THERE'S A VIEW IN BETWEEN THE WALLS OF THE GATE WHERE YOU CAN SEE REPRESENTED THE EXHIBITION PANELS AND THE POTENTIAL OF SOME THREE DIMENSIONAL MODEL REPRESENTATIONS OF WHAT THE ENTIRE PORT ONCE WAS.
AGAIN, IT'S CRITICAL FOR US TO BE SURE THAT OUR, OUR VISITORS HAVE A VERY CLEAR SENSE OF UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THIS SITE SUPPORTED ALL THE DIFFERENT CULTURAL GROUPS THAT OCCUPIED THE SITE OVER THE 300 YEAR
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HISTORY.NEXT SLIDE VIEW COMING BACK OUT OF THE GATE AND DOWN THROUGH THE SOUTH PROMENADE NEXT SLIDE.
AND THEN OUR FINAL SHOT HERE IS AN AERIAL WHERE YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING THAT WILL HAPPEN IN AND AROUND THE PLAZA, THE
SO YOU CAN SEE THE BALANCE CONTEXTUALLY, WE THINK IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE SCALE OF THE SITE AND THE NEW SOUTH PLAZA THAT WILL BE IN FRONT OF THE VALERO PLAZA, WHICH WILL BE IN FRONT OF THE LUNETTE ALL WILL BE PART OF MAKING OUR VISITORS MORE INFORMED, MORE ENGAGED AND WITH A CLEARER UNDERSTANDING OF THE EVENTS AND THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE MANY, MANY DECADES OF HISTORY HERE AT THE ALAMO.
AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE OUR ARCHITECTURE TEAM FROM GENSLER ALSO AVAILABLE WHO ARE CURRENTLY INVOLVED IN THE ARCHITECTURE AND ENGINEERING OF THIS.
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN IN FRONT OF THE T H C AND RECEIVED A A NOT ONLY JUST VERY FIRM SUPPORT, BUT VERY MOVING SUPPORT BECAUSE OF WHAT THE A T I IS DOING TO HELP THE VISITORS REALLY UNDERSTAND THIS SITE IN A MORE UNIQUE AND THREE-DIMENSIONAL WAY.
THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU STEPS ELEVATOR.
IT'S, IT'S UM, WHAT BROADLY, UH, WE ARE, WE'RE FOLLOWING THE GUIDELINES FROM OUR ARCHITECTURAL TEAM AT A T I AND AT T H C, THERE'LL BE NO EXCAVATION BELOW 12 INCHES ON THE SITE.
THERE WILL BE A CONCRETE FOOTING BOARD OR STRUCTURAL REINFORCEMENT, BUT ALL OF THAT WILL BE REVIEWED IN THE PROCESS WITH THE A T I AND WITH THE ARCHEOLOGICAL TEAM FROM THE G L O INTENT.
SO CORRECT, UH, PERSON TO ASK FOR PERMISSION.
UH, THERE IS NO, UH, DEFINITE PLAN AT THE END OF THE THREE YEARS, BUT UM, I'M SURE THAT ONCE THE WE'VE REACHED IT OR GETTING CLOSE
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TO THAT POINT, UM, YOU'LL BE INFORMED THE NEXT STEPS WILL BE I CAN, I CAN PACKAGE DEAL.[00:50:12]
YES.CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH YOUR STEPS OF WHAT DIRT SHOVEL AN ARTIFACT, WHAT YOUR PROCESS SATISFIED WITH IT? UM, I'M GONNA ASK, UM, MICHAEL RAY TO RESPOND TO THAT.
HE'S OUR ARCHITECT WITH GENSLER SO HE CAN, THEY'RE DOING ALL THE PERMIT WORK AND ENGINEERING WORK AND MICHAEL CAN PROBABLY GIVE YOU A MORE CLEAR PERSPECTIVE OF THAT.
THANK, CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME OKAY? THANKS MICHAEL.
YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL UM, USE THE PROCESS THAT, UM, WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WOULD ALL USE IN THAT INSTANCE.
UH, WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH ATI AS OUR THEOLOGICAL GROUP.
UM, AND WE'LL BE, UH, IF, IF, AND IF THAT DOES OCCUR, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT CERTAINLY WOULD, WILL ALTER THE WORK AND WE WOULD, UM, DO THE PROPER STEPS.
HOWEVER, WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING, AS PATRICK MENTIONED, TO UH, UH, THROUGH, THROUGH THE CONFINES OF WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING TO DO, WHICH IS NOT DO UNDERNEATH 12 INCHES OF THE EXISTING, UM, NOT DIG UNDERNEATH 12 INCHES OF THE EXISTING, UH, GRADE.
AND SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO HOPEFULLY, UH, NOT GET INTO ANYTHING THAT WILL BE, UH, APPROPRIATE FROM THE SITE.
SO THERE HAS BEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL STUDIES IN THE PAST AND SO WE ARE, WE'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH WHAT IS IN THE GENERAL AREA AND WORKING, UH, HAND IN HAND AND CLOSE WITH, UM,
WAS THERE ANY FOLLOW UP I NEED TO HAVE? YEAH, DIDN'T, IF YOU, IF YOU DUNNO, THAT'S FINE.
IF LOOKING FOR DETAILS, ONE OF THE THINGS LOOKED AT, THAT'S WHY SPECIFIC, WHAT'S GONNA HAVE SWORD OR SOMETHING.
COMMISSIONER, UM, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT.
WE HAVE WORKED ON THAT WITH A SUBCOMMITTEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
WE ALSO HAVE I IF, BUT I, I'VE EMBEDDED AND FOLLOW STATE.
KATE, KATE IS ON AND SHE CAN SPEAK TO THAT DIRECTION.
THANK YOU LORI AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.
SO, UM, BECAUSE ANYTHING THAT WE DO ON THE SALE OF, UH, THE ALAMO, UH, PER T H C REGULATIONS, ANYTIME WE FIND A FEATURE OF ANY KIND, UM, THE, THE T H C HAS TO COME IN AND DO AN ANALYSIS AND THEY MAKE A RULING ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH THE FEATURE.
DOES IT NEED TO BE EXCAVATED? DOES IT NEED TO BE PERMANENTLY EXPOSED? SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE, THE PORTION OF THE WEST WALL THAT WAS FOUND THROUGH ARCHEOLOGY THAT THE CITY DID A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, THE RULING WAS IT NEEDED TO REMAIN EXPOSED.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU CAN SEE THROUGH THE WINDOW THAT EXISTS JUST OUTSIDE OF THE CROCKETT BUILDING.
THE SAME THING HAPPENED WHEN WE DID THE WORK IN FRONT OF THE MANGROVE HOTEL.
SO ANYTIME WE FIND ANYTHING, THERE'S A RULING ABOUT WHETHER IT CAN BE REBURIED, WHETHER IT CAN BE EXCAVATED, WHETHER IT NEEDS TO REMAIN EXPOSED.
SO WE, WE RELY ON THE T H C TO GUIDE US.
UM, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME THAT ANYTHING OF OF SIGNIFICANCE IS FOUND, WHAT A STRESS THAT, UM, DENNIS, WE DID HAVE OVERALL OUR GOAL, OUR OUR TO NOT DIG SO DEEP FINE, BUT IF WE DO FIND SOMETHING WE UM, LORI CHRISTIE NICHOLS AT A T I ARCHEOLOGIST IS ON AND SHE MIGHT
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WANT TO ADD TO THAT.CHRISTIE, GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY.
I'M JUST WANTED TO HAVE
AND OF COURSE THE, SO, UM, WE HAVE DEVELOPED, UM, I HAPPEN COUNTER ANY TWO POINTS.
UM, AND OUR STAFF HERE WILL BE VERY TO COORDINATE THOSE WITH THE, AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
UH, WITH THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED, DOES UH, ER WISH TO MOTION? OKAY, WE'VE HAD A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE.
WE HAVE ASKER ACCEPT TRUMAN, IT'S, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT'S THE REQUEST.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND DISCUSSION MR. GSON.
SO THE, I MY EARLY CONCERN, THE FACT THAT THIS IS CREATION IS FOR HELIMAN OF WHERE THE, WHERE LEGIBILITY MADE A LOT OF THOSE TAKEN BY THE DESIGN TEAM IN ADDRESS THIS TIME.
I DO ALSO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT IS BEING TIMESCALE, THAT IS TEMPORARY AND THAT IT CAN BE REVISITED, HAD SOME RESERVATIONS ABOUT THE TAIL OF ITS CURRENT HEIGHT AND THAT THAT GOES.
SECOND, I MEAN A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS
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YEAH, THAT MAYBE STANDPOINT ONE THING TO REMEMBER IS THE CITY SACRED THING.SO EVEN THOUGH LEGALLY MIGHT HAVE LEGAL AUTHORITY, IT MAY NOT ADDRESS SOME OF LOOK AT RIGHTEOUSNESS OF, SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I WANTED TECHNICALLY, UM, THAT SAID GREAT, THAT'S GOOD TO HEARS AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE DOING IT THEN.
MAKE SURE THAT ADDRESS THAT ADDRESS.
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THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING THAT.YOU'RE GONNA PHONE APPRECIATE AYE AYE, AYE.
COULD YOU THE QUESTION, I'M SORRY.
UM, DURING THE
SO JUST, YOU KNOW, NINE STAND HAVING, HAVING THE DOUBLE DOORS GO OUT CENTERED AND LOOK PRETTY CLOSE TO THE WINDOWS THE WAY THEY'RE HAD A SINGLE HAVE TO TAKE ONE OF THE WINDOWS OUT.
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WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS RETAIN STILL.YEAH, IF YOU PUT A DOOR ON THAT, ON THAT DOOR WALL, THAT WALL IS THE AREA THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY WINDOWS WHEN YOU WALK INTO THE PLACE.
SO BED, THAT'S A A PUT A BED IN THERE, YOU KNOW, IN A WEIRD SPOT AT A DOOR RIGHT THERE.
YOU HAVE TO, YOU'D HAVE TO PUT A BED UP AGAINST THE WINDOWS NEAR THE CLOSET INSTEAD OF PUTTING, BEING ABLE TO SIZE.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT BE GOOD FOR THE, FOR THE TENANT AND, AND TO GO, TO GO OFF THE IS UM, THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT SIDE.
THAT STAIRCASE THAT'S THERE, THAT GOES UP TO A LAUNDRY ROOM AND IT'S, IT'S A COMMON AREA FOR BOTH SIDES.
AND, UM, I, I'M ACTUALLY, I WANTED TO MAKE THAT WALL THAT OFF ONE SIDE, UH, JUST A LOT BETTER FOR THE, UH, LITTLE MORE PRIVATE AS WELL.
AND THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S THE REASON, THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I WANTED TO HAVE A REAR ACCESS 2012 SIDE, I THINK.
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GIBBS? NO.