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WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF OCTOBER 12TH TO ORDER.
CAN WE PLEASE, HAS, PLEASE HAVE THE TRANSLATION SERVICES READ.
CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MR. PECK? PRESENT.
MS. CHANDLER? PRESENT? DO I MR. ZUKI PRESENT? MR. BUSANTE? PRESENT.
CAN I JUST READ THIS? MR. PROFIT? YEAH.
NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.
WE HAVE NO CITIZENS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP, SO WE'LL MOVE AHEAD TO THE AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEMS FOUR AND FIVE, WHICH HAVE BEEN PULLED FOR RECUSAL.
ITEM NUMBER NINE, WHICH WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY.
UM, AND THEN ITEMS 8, 13, 14, 15, AND 16.
THE BALANCE DATE IS AGENDA WILL
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BE CONSIDERED UNDER A SINGLE MOTION FOR APPROVAL UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA.CAN I GET A MOTION FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA? SO MOVED.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIR OR COMMISSIONER PROFIT.
AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER.
MOTION WITH A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MILAM, CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. PECK? YES.
VICE CHAIR CARILLO HAYNES? YES.
IT'S 2 0 4 AND COMMISSIONER BUSANTE IS LEAVING.
CAN I GET A MOTION FOR ITEMS FOUR AND FIVE? MOVE TO APPROVE.
UH, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ORIENT.
WAS THAT BY COMMISSIONER MILAM AGAIN? I THINK SO, YEAH.
VICE CHAIR CARILLO HAYNES? YES.
COMMISSIONER BUSTA MONTE'S RETURNING TO THE MEETING.
ALL RIGHT, SO NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
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IS THERE A STAFF PRESENTATION? YES.UM, SO FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, IT IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL FOR RESOLUTION AMENDING THE MIDTOWN AREA REGIONAL CENTER PLAN FROM NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE TO URBAN MIXED USE, LOCATED AT 2200 MCCULLOUGH AVENUE 49.
TWO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, SIX RECEIVED OPPOSED, UM, TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, MONTE VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION ARE IN OPPOSITION.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE FOR TWO WEEKS TO OCTOBER 26TH.
CAN I GET A MOTION FOR THE CONTINUANCE? SO MOVED.
YOU HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MILAM.
SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PECK, CAN I GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MS. MILAM?
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YES.VICE CHAIR CARILLO HAYNES? YES.
MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE.
ELIZABETH STEWART PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE ARENA DISTRICT EAST SIDE COMMUNITY PLAN FROM MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND IS GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 300 BLOCK OF SOUTH NEW BRAUNFELS AVENUE.
THERE WERE 11 NOTICES MAILED ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR AND ZERO OPPOSED WITH NO RESPONSE FROM DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THE APPLICANT SEEKS A PLAN AMENDMENT TO HIGH DENSITY CITY RESIDENTIAL TO REZONE TO I D Z TWO.
MEDIUM INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT WITH USES PERMITTED FOR MF 33 MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT.
THE PROPOSED LAND USE, UM, FROM MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO HIDE DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS REQUESTED IN ORDER TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO I D Z TWO WITH USES PERMITTED IN MF 33.
THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ARENA DISTRICT'S COMMUNITY PLAN OBJECTIVE TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY, VARIETY AND ACCESSIBILITY OF THE PRIVATE AND PUBLIC HOUSING STOCK FOR INDIVIDUALS OF ALL AGES AND ECONOMIC LEVELS.
THE FUTURE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION FOR THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING USES ALONG THE NEW BRAUNFELS AVENUE CORRIDOR.
THE PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENT TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS A COMPAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE LAND USE IN THE AREA AND ALLOWS FOR MORE DENSITY CITY ALONG SOUTH NEW BRAUNFELS AVENUE.
THE HIGH DENSITY CITY RES RESIDENTIAL LAND USE CLASSIFICATION WILL ALSO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING OPTIONS IN THE AREA AND PROMOTE INFILL AND DEVELOPMENT ON AN EXISTING VACANT LOT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IS THERE A PRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT? DO WE MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS? OKAY, THANK YOU.
I'M SORRY, MY NAME IS, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.
I REPRESENT, UH, TERRAMARK URBAN HOMES ON THIS PROPERTY.
CAN I ANSWER? I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START ON MY RIGHT WITH COMMISSIONER ZUKI.
WHAT IS YOUR PLANNING FOR THE NUMBER OF UNITS FOR THIS AREA? UH, THIS IS GONNA BE, OUR PLAN IS FOR AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING RENTAL UNIT.
WE DID A PROPERTY OVER ON REO, UH, WITH TWO BUILDINGS, A TOTAL OF 24 UNITS AND IT MIGHT BE 12 UNITS.
I WASN'T INVOLVED, BUT, UH, WE'RE PLANNING TO DO THE SAME THING RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE GOING THROUGH, UH, SOME BROWN WORKING WITH THE CITY ON BROWNFIELD TO CLEAN IT UP ON A PHASE TWO AND, AND, UH, WE HAVE THE FUNDING FOR THAT.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING RENTAL, UH, PROPERTY TOTAL OF 24 UNITS.
WHAT IS THE, HOW MANY ACRES YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE? UM, I'M SORRY.
HOW MANY ACRES YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE? THERE'S A LITTLE OVER TWO ACRES HERE AND IT'LL BE 32.
WE'RE PLANNING ON 32 UNITS ON TWO ACRES.
IT'S, IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE A, A STAIR STEP THREE STORY, TWO STORY, KIND OF A PLAN.
SO IT'S A TOTAL OF 16 UNITS PER ACRE.
UH, I THINK IT'S 15.53, BUT, UH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CORRECT.
MEDIUM RESIDENCY, HOW MANY, HOW MUCH MAX IS ALLOWED? IT ONLY ALLOWS OUR UP TO RMM FOUR MEDIUM RESIDENCY ALLOWED UP TO RMM FOUR.
IT ONLY ALLOWS THE RESIDENTIAL MIX CATEGORIES.
IT DOES NOT ALLOW ANY MULTI-FAMILY CATEGORIES.
NO FURTHER QUESTION? YES, SIR.
COMMISSIONER SIEGEL, I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER PECK? NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER MILAM? NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YEAH, JUST ONE QUESTION YOU DIDN'T MENTION IT WAS JUST OVER TWO ACRES.
UH, THE APPLICATION LOOKS LIKE IT'S FOR 0.9.
CAN YOU, UH, POINT OUT WHERE THE REST OF THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE USING FOR YOUR
IT'S TWO, TWO DIFFERENT, UH, TWO DIFFERENT PROPERTIES OR, OR ONE SITE AND, UM, IF IT, IF I I WAS INCORRECT THEN.
ONE THING WE ARE HAVING TO, UH, PUT ON THE PROPERTY IS A, UH, A DETENTION FACILITY BECAUSE IT'S,
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IT'S IN A, UH, DETENTION, UH, FACILITY AREA.SO WE'VE, WE'VE REDESIGNED, UM, ONE SIDE OF IT, WELL THE, THE LOWER SIDE TO DRAIN TO.
SO, UH, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE HAVING TO DO AS WELL.
IS THIS A PART OF SOUTH NEW BRAUNFELS, A COLLECTOR OR GREATER CLASS STREET? IT IS A MINOR PRIMARY ARTERIAL B.
HE TOOK MY QUESTIONS AND I'LL KEEP THE REST FOR ZONING.
CAN UM, WE GET A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PECK AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SIEGEL.
CAN WE TAKE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. PECK? YES.
VICE CHAIR CARILLO HAYNES? YES.
UM, ITEM NUMBER 14, ANN BETA'S PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 14 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE NORTH CENTRAL NEIGHBORHOODS COMMUNITY PLAN FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AND IS LOCATED AT 8 2 3 FRESNO STREET.
THERE WERE 22 NOTICES MAILED WITH ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM EDISON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THE PROPOSED LAND USE AMENDMENT FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL IS REQUESTED TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO EX PERMIT THE EXPANSION OF THE RETAIL STRIP ABUTTING THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST WHILE A RETAIL STRIPS DIRECTLY ABUTS BLANCO ROAD.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ITSELF IS PART OF AN ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL, THE PLAN AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT INTO A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT FOR THIS CASE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IS THERE A PRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT? HI, MY NAME IS AMIN AND THIS IS MY FATHER HUSSEIN ALI.
UM, I'M GONNA BE DOING MOST OF THE TALKING AS IT'S BE, UH, EASIER FOR ME TO TRANSLATE OVER.
UM, WE ACTUALLY OWN THE, UH, WE DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION, BUT THE GENERAL IDEA IS BASICALLY THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST IS OWNED BY US.
IT'S A COMMERCIAL C TWO PROPERTY AS WELL RIGHT THERE.
THAT, UH, IS A C TWO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AS ALREADY THE RESIDENTIAL STARTS HERE.
UM, THIS HOUSE, UM, WAS FOR SALE AND WE PURCHASED IT.
WE'RE LOOKING TO EXTEND A SMALL PORTION OVER AND BUILD A LITTLE EXTRA PARKING TO HELP WITH THE RETAIL SPACE.
UM, I'LL START AGAIN ON MY RIGHT WITH COMMISSIONER ZUKI.
SO YOU OWN THE COMMERCIAL SPACE TO THE WEST OF IT? YES.
AND YOU WANTED TO EXPAND THAT TO THE RESIDENTIAL? UH, YEAH, A SMALL EXTENSION TO IT AS WELL AS INCREASE THE PARKING AREA A LITTLE AS WELL.
UH, WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR PLANNING TO EXPAND TO THAT RESIDENTIAL AREA? LIKE, UM, THE PROPERTY THAT'S THERE, WE'RE LOOKING TO GET ABOUT ANOTHER LIKE, UH, AREA ABOUT 2000 SQUARE FEET OR SO TO ADD TO THE ALREADY EXISTING BUILDING THAT'S THERE.
SO ARE YOU GONNA DEMO THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL HOUSE? UM, SO IT'S A MOBILE HOME RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE LOOKING TO OUR BEST TO TRY TO MOVE IT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THE DEMOLITION.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR BUYERS RIGHT NOW TO SEE IF THEY'RE ABLE TO MOVE IT.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST PREFERRED.
BUT, UM, THE AREA WAS, WASN'T QUITE KEPT UP WELL BEFORE WE PURCHASED IT, SO WE DID DO A LITTLE CLEANUP AS WELL AND STUFF.
SO, UM, YEAH, THE HOUSE WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE IT RELOCATED.
OKAY, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SIEGEL.
UM, YOU HAVE SAID A FEW THINGS THAT ARE INTERESTING TO ME.
ONE OF 'EM IS THAT THERE'S A MOBILE HOME ON THE PROPERTY, UHHUH
IT'S, DO YOU HAVE ANY, DO YOU HAVE ANY PHOTOGRAPHS? IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT VISIBLE FROM WHAT I CAN FIND ON THE INTERNET.
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FEW, UH, DURING THE PRESENTATION RIGHT HERE.UH, NO, THAT'S, YEAH, THAT ONE, THAT IS THE, THAT'S, THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A MOBILE HOME.
UM, YEAH, IF WE, WE HAD A ARCHITECT ACTUALLY COME AND LOOK AT IT.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE THE GARAGE IS KIND OF SEPARATE, BUT THE HOME ITSELF IS LIKE ABLE TO BE MOVED IS WHAT WE WERE TOLD.
SO IT'S ON PURE AND BEAMS, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A MOBILE HOME? A MOBILE HOME? NO.
LIKE, NO, BUT IT'S A HOUSE THAT IS BEING, UH, THAT IS CAPABLE OF BEING MOVED IS WHAT I SO YOUR PLAN IS TO MOVE IT.
DO YOU HAVE A PLACE TO MOVE IT TO OR IS SOMEONE GONNA BUY IT? YEAH, WE'RE, UH, SPEAKING TO A COUPLE OF, UH, PEOPLE WHO BUY, UH, HOMES LIKE THAT.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE IT RELOCATED AND THE, THE INTENT IS TO BUILD A SMALL EXTENSION ONTO THE EXISTING STRIP CENTER AND ADD PARKING LOT.
THERE'S ALREADY 1400 SQUARE FEET ABOUT THAT WE OWN AFTER THE BUILDING ENDS, BUT WE NEED ANOTHER FOUR OR 500 MORE TO FINISH.
UH, THAT, AND THEN THE EXTRA SPACE WOULD BE ALLOCATED TO PARKING TO HELP WITH THE RETAIL.
I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS.
I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUST A STATEMENT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH STAFF ON DENIAL ON THIS ONE.
FURTHER ENCROACHMENT INTO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA DOESN'T REALLY LOOK LIKE A GOOD IDEA TO ME.
UM, IT'S AN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD AND UM, NEXT THING YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL GONNA BE COMMERCIAL, SO, UH, I'M GONNA SIDE WITH STAFF ON THIS ONE.
UH, COULD I, IS THERE ANY ANYWAY, SORRY, GO AHEAD.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO RESPOND TO THAT.
SO LIKE THAT HOUSE, UM, WE ACTUALLY GO TO THAT PROPERTY QUITE OFTEN TO, UH, CHECK IT OUT AND TO MAINTAIN IT AND WHATNOT, AND WE WOULD CHECK, AND THAT HOUSE WAS VERY LIKE, UM, NOT PROPERLY TAKEN CARE OF AS WELL AS LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD COME TO THAT HOUSE.
THERE WAS A LOT OF ACTIVITY GOING ON THAT LIKE, THAT'S WHY WE WERE TRYING TO, UH, KIND OF ESTABLISH A BETTER AREA FOR THAT.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO.
UM, I KNOW THE FURTHER DOWN I'VE MET, WE ACTUALLY SPOKE OVER THERE TO A COUPLE OF PEOPLE AND THEY WERE, UM, ALL IN SUPPORT.
LIKE, AND THEY HAD RECEIVED THE MAIL TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
I HAD SPOKEN TO A FEW PEOPLE AROUND THERE AND THEY WERE ALL LIKE, VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE IDEA.
COMMISSIONER MILAM KIND OF THE SAME THING.
I MEAN, I, I KNOW THAT AREA PRETTY WELL AND, AND ENCROACHING COMMERCIAL INTO IT WHEN WE NEED, YOU KNOW, MORE HOUSING INSIDE OF SAN ANTONIO, MAYBE WE WOULD FEEL DIFFERENTLY ABOUT IT IF YOU CAME WITH A PLAN TO PUT SOME RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON IT, MAYBE I WOULD FEEL
LOGAN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO YOU WANTED TO ADD? OKAY, GO AHEAD.
UH, SO, UM, AND THIS IS TO STAFF.
I MEAN, SO YOU'VE GOT BLANCO AND FRESNO, BOTH, BOTH ARE ARTERIALS BASICALLY.
AND, AND I THOUGHT THE CITY DIDN'T LIKE RESIDENTIALS GO BACKING INTO AN ARTERIAL.
I ALSO NOTE THAT THERE'S NO PARKING ALLOWED ON FRESNO.
UH, AND, AND IF, IF THIS APPLICANT WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, UH, DEVELOPMENT, IT LOOKS LIKE HE WOULD, THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS, BE ASKED TO MAYBE EVEN REMOVE ONE OF THESE NON-CONFORMING DRIVEWAY NEAR THAT HARD INTERSECTION.
I MEAN, THIS MIGHT BE BE GOOD.
I I'M MEAN, I'M JUST LOOKING AT FRESNO.
YOU GOT LIKE SIX OR SEVEN HOMES THERE.
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD, THE BEST THING WOULD HAVE THIS THING, UH, HAVE BE ALL COMMERCIAL ACROSS FROM THE EDISON HIGH SCHOOL AND, AND, AND IN FRONTING THIS ARTERIAL ROAD.
SO I'M GONNA BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS, UM, JUST FOR THAT REASON.
UH, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S LIMITED RESIDENTIAL, BUT, ALRIGHT.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.
UM, STEPH, LOOKING AT, UH, THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL AT THE HARD INTERSECTION OF FRESNO AND BLANCO, THERE'S NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND THIS IS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL.
CAN YOU REMIND ME WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN THOSE TWO AS FAR AS WHAT'S ALLOWED FOR COMMERCIAL USES? UM, RIGHT, SO, UM, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL GENERALLY ALLOWS THE N C C ONE C TWO CATEGORIES AND HIGHER.
UM, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL IS GONNA LIMIT THAT TO LIKE OFFICE USES AND NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES.
OKAY, BUT THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL IS C TWO, CORRECT? YES.
THAT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE ADOPTED PLAN.
GENERALLY THAT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL LAND USE CATEGORY TYPICALLY CAPS OFF AT C ONE.
UM, AND I HAVE TO SAY, I, I AGREE WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER ORIAN HERE THAT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN
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THE COMMERCIAL DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET AND OR EDISON HIGH SCHOOL, UH, THE PARKING CONSIDERATIONS THAT HE BROUGHT UP, I THINK I WILL BE SUPPORTING, UH, THIS PLAN AMENDMENT.SO I, I HAD JUST A CLARIFICATION FOR, FOR STAFF.
UM, SO THE EXISTING STRUCTURE IS, UM, NOT, UH, CURRENTLY ALLOWED UNDER THE CURRENT PLAN.
SO HE COULDN'T JUST CHANGE THIS TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND NOT HAVE TO COME FOR A PLAN AMENDMENT? NO, IT, IT'S, IT'S, UH, LOW LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE IS WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW, AND IT HAS A HOME ON IT.
SO THE ONLY WAY THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE USE RIGHT NOW IS RESIDENTIAL.
SO HE WOULD HAVE TO STAY RESIDENTIAL FOR HIM TO NOT COME FOR A PLAN AMENDMENT? CORRECT.
I DID WANT TO ASK THE APPLICANT, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE I, WE HEARD YOU SAY THAT YOUR INTENTION IS TO EXPAND A PARKING LOT ONTO THIS STRUCTURE.
IS THAT CORRECT? SO IT'LL BE THE MICROPHONE.
THERE WE HAVE ALREADY 7,000 SQUARE FEET SHOPPING CENTER AND NEXT TO THAT WE HAVE A SPACE LIKE A 1400 UH, SQUARE FEET ALREADY THERE.
BUT WE ARE NOT BUILT FROM 20 YEARS BECAUSE OF THE PARKING.
THE PARKING IS, IF WE BUILD THERE, THEN THE PARKING IS NOT ENOUGH FOR THAT SPACE BECAUSE WE, WE HAVE A LAUNDROMAT THERE SO PEOPLE COME TO COIN LAUNDRY, SO THEREFORE THE COME FOR THE GAS STATION AND THE LAUNDRY.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SPACE TO PEOPLE PARKED THERE.
IF I CAN BUILD THERE UNDER 1400 DISCOVERY, THAT IS THE COMMERCIAL, WHICH ONE I HAVE ON THE CORNER.
AND, AND THE REASON I WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT IS BECAUSE I THINK WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU WANTED TO EXPAND THE COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE ONTO THE SITE.
NO IMPLICATIONS FOR YOUR DECISION TODAY, BUT SECTION 35 3 84 OF THE CODE HAS SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS WHEN YOU ARE GOING TO, UH, BUILD A, A PARKING LOT AS THE PRIMARY USE THAT INVOLVES THE DEMOLITION OF A HOME.
UH, IT REQUIRES A, A TYPE C, 25 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER TO BE ESTABLISHED ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS GOING TO CONSUME A CONSIDERABLE PORTION OF THAT SMALL LOT.
UM, IT REQUIRES THAT THE ZONING COMMISSION BY SPECIFIC USE FIND THAT CERTAIN FINDINGS ARE IN PLACE, THAT THE STRUCTURE CANNOT BE REHABILITATED, THAT THE STRUCTURE CANNOT REASONABLY BE RELOCATED.
SO I THINK THERE ARE IMPLICATIONS AT THE ZONING COMMISSION LEVEL.
AGAIN, NO IMPLICATIONS TODAY, BUT I DO WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF THOSE AS YOU MOVE FORWARD.
I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UM, MAYBE I MISSED THIS, BUT THE EXISTING BUILDING HAS A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION AND THEY'RE GOING FOR A COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION.
IS THE EXISTING BUILDING SUITABLE FOR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL THE USE OR IS IT IN LIKE A SPECIAL USE OR NOT IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION.
WHICH, WHICH BUILDING THE RESIDENTIAL OR THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
SO THE ONLY WAY IT WOULD, IT'S GONNA BE EXISTING NON-CONFORMING.
UM, AND THEN WE DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFIC SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING.
I'M SURE WE COULD LOOK IT UP, BUT, UM, AS LONG AS THAT'S 5,000 SQUARE FEET, IT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, UM, BUT NOT WITH THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF C TWO.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO ANY WORK ON THAT BUILDING, WOULD THAT TRIGGER ANOTHER AMENDMENT OR REZONING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? 'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA WORK ON THAT BUILDING TO ADD ONTO IT? POTENTIALLY, YES.
IF THE COST OF THE WORK BEING UNDERTAKEN EXCEEDS 50% THE REPLACEMENT VALUE OF THE STRUCTURE, THEN IT WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ALL CURRENT CONDITIONS.
I I THINK I HEARD THE APPLICANT SAY IT'S 7,000 SQUARE FEET OF SPACE.
THE, THE ZONING DISTRICTS CONSISTENT WITH THAT CATEGORY CAP THAT TO 5,000 IN AN INDIVIDUAL BUILDING.
SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WILL HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, TAKEN A LOOK AT SHOULD THAT SITUATION ARISE AGAIN.
IF THEY'RE GONNA COME IN AND PUT A NEW ROOF ON IT AND SLAP SOME NEW WINDOWS ON IT, JUST GENERAL MAINTENANCE, THOSE CONDITIONS WOULD NOT TRIGGER, BUT A SUBSTANTIAL PROJECT EXCEEDING 50% THE REPLACEMENT COST WOULD.
I THINK STAFF ANTICIPATED MY QUESTION AND ANSWERED IT REGARDING THE 7,000 VERSUS 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
UM, BUT IF THE CHAIR IS READY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION, I DO HAVE ONE.
UM, AT THIS POINT, CHAIR, GIVEN SOME OF THE ISSUES RAISED BY STAFF, I WOULD MOVE FOR A CONTINUANCE OF THIS MATTER UNTIL ZONING CAN ANSWER SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT MAY IMPACT,
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UH, THE DECISION OF THIS BODY.SO I MOVE FOR A CONTINUANCE TO OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS OCTOBER 26TH.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE TO OCTOBER 26TH BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SIEGEL.
VICE CHAIR CARILLO HAYNES? YES.
MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE.
ALL RIGHT, MOVING ITEM ONTO ITEM NUMBER 15 AND BEES ZONING PLANNER.
ITEM NUMBER 15 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE EASTERN TRIANGLE COMMUNITY PLAN FROM REGIONAL COMMERCIAL TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND IT'S LOCATED AT 4 5 3 8.
THERE WERE 22 NOTICES MAILED WITH ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE LOWER SOUTHEAST SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THE PROPOSED LAND USE AMENDMENT FROM REGIONAL COMMERCIAL TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS REQUESTED TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO MF 18 MULTI LIMITED DENSITY MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT.
THE PROPOSED HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION IS APPROPRIATE AND CONSISTENT WITH ABUTTING LAND USES.
ALTHOUGH MUCH OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PROPERTIES ARE DESIGNATED REGIONAL COMMERCIAL, THE LAND IS LARGELY UNDEVELOPED WITH LOW TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE FOUND IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT AN, AT AN INTERSECTION OF A LOCAL STREET AND A PRIMARY ARTERIAL, WHICH MAKES ITS PLACEMENT IDEAL FOR ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL DENSITY.
FURTHERMORE, THE REQUEST ALIGNS WITH THE GOALS OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH PROMOTES ALTERNATIVE HOUSING TYPES AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT FOR ALL SOCIOECONOMIC LEVELS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
EMILY WEISLER WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE SUITE TWO 50.
OH, IT'S SO NICE THAT I CAN CONTROL THIS NOW MYSELF.
UM, SO AS STAFF MENTIONED, THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION TODAY IS AT 45 38 BOLT.
UM, WE ARE JUST NORTH OF EAST, SOUTH CROSS, UM, AND JUST EAST OF SOUTH WW WHITE.
UM, PROPERTY IS JUST OVER FIVE AND A HALF ACRES UNDERUTILIZED.
IT'S CURRENTLY OWNED BY JUBILEE OUTREACH CHURCH, WHICH THEIR CHURCH DEVELOPMENT YOU CAN SEE.
UM, DO YOU HAVE THE POINTER? YES.
UH, THE CHURCH PROPERTY IS UP HERE IN TO THE NORTH WEST FLOW PROPERTY FROM THE CHURCH.
SO THEY'RE NOW SELLING, THIS IS JUST A WIDER VIEW OF KIND OF THE SURROUNDING USES.
YOU CAN SEE IMMEDIATELY TO OUR SOUTH IS A FAIRLY NEW FAMILY DOLLAR AT THE CORNER OF SOUTH CROSS AND SOUTH WW WHITE, UM, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM BOLTS, SOME SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, UM, SOME LARGE ACRE STATES.
WE HAVE A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTING FACILITY, UM, IMMEDIATELY TO OUR EAST.
AND THEN WE HAVE A, UM, COMMERCIAL BUILDING THAT PRIMARILY HAS, UM, HAIR SALON INSIDE OF IT.
SO, UM, YES, THIS AREA IS, UM, CURRENTLY DESIGNATED AS REGIONAL COMMERCIAL, BUT THE SURROUNDING USES ARE, ARE NOT REGIONAL COMMERCIAL IN NATURE BY ANY MEANS.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE IN THIS AERIAL, UH, WE ARE WEST OF FOUR 10 HERE, SOUTH CROSS AS WELL.
JUST KIND OF A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE ARE SURROUNDED BY.
SO AS STAFF MENTIONED, UM, THE PROPERTY'S CURRENTLY ZONED C THREE R.
WE ARE REQUESTING A REZONING TO MF 18, UM, WHICH I WILL GET TO IN JUST A SECOND.
UM, BUT THIS IS FOR A QUADRUPLEX RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
SO PREDOMINANTLY, UH, FOUR PLEXES, UM, WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS FOUND, UM, SIGNIFICANTLY REALLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
IT'S A, IT'S A NONTRADITIONAL, UM, HOUSING TYPE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A TON OF, UM, BUT CERTAINLY NOT IN THIS AREA AS WELL.
SO REALLY LOOKING TO ADD TO THE DIVERSITY OF HOUSING TYPE OPTIONS, UM, IN THIS COMMUNITY, BUT INCREASE SOME DENSITY THERE.
UM, AND THAT, UM, AND THAT UNIT COUNT IS ABOUT 80, UM, ACROSS THOSE FIVE AND A HALF ACRES.
UM, SO AS STEPH MENTIONED, UH, THE PROPERTY IS REGIONAL COMMERCIAL DESIGNATED IN THE EASTERN TRIANGLE PLAN.
WE HAVE DISCUSSED WITH THE CHAIRMAN, UM, OF THE EASTERN TRIANGLE GROUP, UM, AND PULLED THEIR BOARD MEMBERS.
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THE PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENT.SO WE HAVE, UM, DISCUSSED IT WITH THE EASTERN TRIANGLE GROUP.
UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL IN THE EASTERN TRIANGLE PLAN, WHICH WAS ADOPTED IN 2009, UM, HAS A WHOLE WIDE RANGE OF COMMERCIAL INTENSITY, UM, FROM NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ALL THE WAY TO C THREE.
UM, SO IT REALLY CAPTURES PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING COMMERCIAL, UM, IN AND AROUND IT.
HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, ALSO BIG SPAN OF ASSOCIATED USES.
UM, THIS IS ALSO THE ONLY LAND USE DESIGNATION THAT ALLOWS FOR MULTIFAMILY.
SO WHILE OUR REZONING REQUEST IS FOR A LIMITED DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, UM, AN MF 18, THIS IS OUR ONLY, UH, LAND USE CATEGORY THAT ALLOWS FOR MULTIFAMILY AT ALL.
UM, THAT IS NOT A MIXED USE CATEGORY.
SO THOSE ARE THE CONCEPTS FOR THE PLAN.
AGAIN, UH, SOUTH WWE Y IS A PRIMARY MATERIAL.
UM, I WOULD CONTEND THAT THAT IS A VERY INTENSE, UM, ALLOWABLE USES C THREE PARTICULARLY VERY INTENSE, UM, RIGHT ACROSS FROM SINGLE FAMILY AND QUITE FRANKLY SOME COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL TYPE USES.
UM, SO THE PROPOSED HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WILL INTRODUCE THE ABILITY FOR MORE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY, UM, BUT ALSO REDUCE THE COMMERCIAL INTENSITY, UM, THAT IS REALLY QUITE AGGRESSIVE, UM, WHEN YOU ARE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AND MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
SO, UM, FEEL THAT THE PROPOSED HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ON THIS HARD CORNER IS A REALLY GOOD TRANSITION TO THOSE LESS INTENSE USES, UM, LEAVING THAT REGIONAL COMMERCIAL FRONTING, QUITE FRANKLY, UH, EAST SOUTH CROSS, WHICH IS A MORE APPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR THAT.
SO, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT.
OKAY, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START ON THE LEFT THIS TIME WITH UH, COMMISSIONER SANTE.
UM, SO THIS IS MORE OF A COMMENT THAN A QUESTION, BUT YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH AS A CITY NOW IS WHO OWNS THE ROADS AND WHO CAN DETERMINE WHAT KIND OF CHANGES CAN BE MADE TO THE ROADS.
AND WW WHITE HERE IS A STATE HIGHWAY LOOP 13.
UH, SO AS A RESULT, THIS ROAD IS NOT GONNA GET ANY NARROWER.
IN FACT, IT WILL PROBABLY EXPAND.
SO ANY CONSIDERATIONS REGARDING, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC I THINK ARE ADDRESSED BY THAT.
I THINK THIS IS A GOOD USAGE, UH, FOR THE PRIMARY ARTERIAL A AND A GOOD TRANSITION.
SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS COMMISSIONER.
COMMISSIONER MILAM? NO QUESTIONS MR. HECK.
I THINK I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
UH, IT'S A GREAT LOCATION FOR HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
I THINK IT, UH, FITS WELL IN THE AREA.
HOW MANY UNITS YOU ARE EXPECTING OUT OF THIS PLANNING AMENDMENT? APPROXIMATELY 88 0 80 UNITS? YEAH, 80 UNITS.
UM, THERE'LL BE, UH, LIKE TWO STORY QUADRAPLEXES, SO FOUR PLEXES, UM, BUT ALL UNDER THE SAME OWNERSHIP.
UM, OUR ZONING REQUEST IS FOR A MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT AND THE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL CATEGORY IS THE ONLY ONE IN THE PLAN THAT ALLOWS FOR ANY MULTI-FAMILY, INCLUDING M MF 18.
SO, UM, HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, OH, SORRY, I THOUGHT IT WAS MY PRESENTATION.
UM, HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, I THINK GOES FROM LIKE R FIVE.
ACTUALLY I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE, WROTE IT DOWN.
UM, MEDIAN HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL STARTS WITH R FOUR, R FIVE, UM, AND GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO MF 40.
SO IT KIND OF COVERS THE ENTIRE SPAN OF SINGLE FAMILY TO, TO MORE TRADITIONAL HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
BUT THERE'S NOT ANOTHER CATEGORY THAT ALLOWS FOR MULTIFAMILY IN THE EASTERN TRIANGLE PLAN.
SO MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL CANNOT ALLOW MF 18.
YEAH, MY, MY CONCERN HAVE BEEN HERE ON REALLY, UH, THE HIGH RESIDENTIAL, UH, IN THIS ZONE.
UM, YES, IT IS A STATE HIGHWAY.
I, I JUST, I FORESEE IN THE FUTURE MORE PROBLEMS, ESPECIALLY IN THE TRAFFIC AREAS.
UH, IT COULD FIT IN THE RESIDENTIAL.
I, I JUST, I DON'T FEEL THAT, UH, IT IS VERY, FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, APPROPRIATE WITH, UH, WITH THE HIGH RESIDENTIAL.
SO I, I CANNOT APPROVE AND I, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF, OF THAT PLAN AMENDMENT.
SO I, WE DID GET THE ACCOUNTS FROM STAFF ON NOTICES MAILED, AND, AND WE, WE SEE THAT THERE WERE NONE RECEIVED WITH EITHER IN OPPOSITION OR IN FAVOR MM-HMM.
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HAVE YOU ALL DONE YOUR OWN OUTREACH WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD? AND CAN YOU JUST GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT THE SENTIMENT IS FOR HAVING, UM, THAT TYPE OF, UM, FACILITY IN THE AREA? YES.UM, WE'VE RECEIVED NO OPPOSITION.
WE'VE HAD, UM, CONTACT WITH A COUPLE OF THE NEARBY PROPERTY OWNERS, INCLUDING, UM, NEXT DOOR, UM, ACROSS THE STREET, DONE OUR OWN OUTREACH THERE.
UM, THE, THE ONLY, UH, REALLY ENGAGED GROUP WAS EASTERN TRIANGLE, QUITE FRANKLY, UM, AS THE, THE MAIN POINT OF CONTACT FOR THEIR PLAN.
UM, BUT WE'VE RECEIVED NO OPPOSITION, HAD NO ILL FILLINGS.
WE'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH DISTRICT THREE ON THIS AS WELL.
AND THE STRUCTURE THAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE PROPERTY IS, IS THAT JUST A, A RESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OR? UM, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S OCCUPIED.
IT'S AN OLD SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S OCCUPIED.
I HAVE NO, UM, QUESTIONS AND IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER PECK.
SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MILAM.
CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. PECK? YES.
WHAT'S HIS VOTE? I DON'T KNOW.
VICE CHAIR CARILLO HAYNES? YES.
UM, MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 16.
ELIZABETH STEWART PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE SOUTH CENTRAL SAN ANTONIO COMMUNITY PLAN FROM MIXED YOUTH TO REGIONAL COMMERCIAL.
GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 1900 BLOCK OF PLEASANTON ROAD, THERE WERE 21 NOTICES MAILED ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE RECEIVED AN OPPOSITION AND THERE IS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THE APPLICANT SEEKS A PLAN AMENDMENT TO REGIONAL COMMERCIAL TO REZONE TO C THREE SS GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR AUTO PAINT AND BODY.
THE PROPOSED LAND USE AMENDMENT FOR MIXED USE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL IS REQUESTED FOR THE C THREE SS.
THIS IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE SOUTH CENTRAL SAN ANTONIO COMMUNITY PLANS OBJECTIVE TO PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND INTEGRATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY PROTECTION.
THE FUTURE LAND USE QUALIFICATION FOR THE PROPERTY IS MIXED USE, WHICH IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING USES ALONG THE PLEASANTON CORRIDOR.
THE PLAN AMENDMENT TO REGIONAL COMMERCIAL IS NOT A COMPATIBLE USE ON THE PLEASANTON CORRIDOR.
THIS DESIGNATION IS TOO HIGH OF A LAND USE INTENSITY ON AN INTERIOR LOT SURROUNDED BY MIXED USE LAND USE AND LOWER INTENSITY COMMERCIAL USES.
THERE IS NO ESTABLISHED REGIONAL COMMERCIAL LAND USE IN THE AREA.
THE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL LAND USE IS DESIGNATED FOR COMMERCIAL NODES OF 20 ACRES OR MORE, AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ONLY 0.15 ACRES.
FURTHER, THE APPLICANT CAN WORK WITH THE EXISTING LAND USE TO CONDITION DOWN THEIR ZONING REQUEST TO A DISTRICT CONSISTENT WITH MIXED USE LAND USE SUCH AS A C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF WE CAN HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE, UH, FIRST BEFORE WE, BEFORE WE TAKE, UH, ANY QUESTIONS FROM YOU TO, UH, AMEND THIS, UH, INSTEAD OF, UM, AS SHE, SHE ALLUDED TO C THREE, UM, AUTO PAYMENT BODY, IT'LL BE JUST, UH, AUTO SALES WITH THAT.
UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS STAFF? DOES THAT AFFECT THE UH, CHANGE FOR TO REGIONAL COMMERCIAL AUTO SALES IS STILL A C THREE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL USE, SO THAT WOULD NOT HAVE A BEARING ON THE PLAN AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU TODAY.
UH, WITH THAT SAID, UM, THE PROPOSES TO DO AUTO SALES TO IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY, UH, WE FEEL THAT THERE IS, UH, SOME BUSINESSES, UM, ADJACENT TO AND ACROSS THAT ARE, I BELIEVE C THREE AND C TWO IN THIS CASE WE'RE, THE OBJECTIVE IS TO BE C THREE TO DO, UM, COMMERCIAL.
SO WE CAN DO C THREE AUTO SALES, WHICH, UH, WE THINK IT'S GONNA BRING, UM, EMPLOYMENT TO THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT INITIALLY WAS OUT SALES AND BODY SHOP, BUT WE UNDERSTOOD THAT, THAT THAT, THAT THAT COULD BE A FACTOR THAT MOST LIKELY WILL BE DENIED AS YOU HEARD TODAY.
BUT I THINK LIKE WITH THE FACTS SAID THAT IT'LL BE JUST SIMPLE OUT SALES, WHICH WOULD BE JUST, UH, TWO OFFICES, I MEAN TWO STORE, TWO STORY BUILDING, WHICH THERE'S NOTHING AS YOU SAW IN THE PICTURES, IT'LL, IT'LL BE A BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
UM, UH, I UNDERSTAND THE DENIAL THAT CAME IN, BUT OBVIOUSLY
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IT'S UM, LIKE I SAY OUTTA BODY, BUT WE FEEL THAT WITH THE AUTO SALES IT'LL BE, IT, IT CHANGES THE PART, PROBABLY THE OPINION OF YOU GUYS.UM, YOU TELL ME, BUT THERE'S C THREE AND C TWO ALL OVER THE PLACE.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S BACK IN THE BACK, IT'S, IT'S R SIX, I THINK THAT'S RESIDENTIAL IN THE BACK PART.
BUT RIGHT NOW THE CURRENT SITUATION, IT'S UM, IT'S MIXED.
IT'S R I THINK R FOUR, R SIX AND AND C TWO IS WHAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT'S WHY WE NEED THIS TO MAKE THIS INTO C THREE.
UM, OTHERWISE, UM, SO WE CAN PURSUE.
'CAUSE UH, BEFORE THAT WE WERE TRYING TO GET THE PLANNING BUT THE PLANNING GOT CAME OUTTA STOP BECAUSE THERE'S NO CONSISTENT ZONING AS I WAS TOLD BY THE ENGINEER THAT I WAS WORKING WITH.
BUT WE GET THIS TODAY OR THROUGH THE PROCESS, GET A GRANT, THEN WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THE OBJECTIVE.
UM, START AGAIN WITH BUS, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.
I JUST HAVE ONE CLARIFICATION BEFORE YOU JUMP IN.
UM, SO IF HE IS TRYING TO AMEND HIS REQUEST, HE CAN AMEND TO A C TWO CD FOR AUTO SALES.
UM, HE WILL NOT NEED THE PLAN AMENDMENT IN ORDER TO DO THAT AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE CASE MANAGER HAS TRIED TO WORK WITH HIM ON AND EXPLAIN TO HIM IF YOU REQUEST A C TWO CD, UH, FOR THE USE THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, THEN YOU DON'T NEED THE PLAN AMENDMENT.
SO IT SOUNDS TO ME NOW LIKE HE'S SAYING HE DOESN'T WANT THE PLAN AMENDMENT, HE'S GOING TO AMEND HIS REQUEST AT ZONING, UH, TO A CD INSTEAD.
SO CAN WE, UM, DEFER THIS DECISION AND PENDING ZONING'S APPROVAL, DOES THAT REQUIRE A, A MOTION OR DOES THAT, UH, YOU CAN ASK THE APPLICANT HOW THEY'D LIKE TO PROCEED AND YOU CAN ALSO, IT'S AT YOUR DISCRETION.
SO IF YOU WANNA CONTINUE IT, THAT'S AT YOUR DISCRETION.
IF YOU GIMME A CREDIT, I'LL GO C TWO CD.
UH, I WON'T GO INTO WHY WHO WENT THROUGH C THREE, BUT WE'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
SO YOU'RE WILLING TO AMEND TO C TWO CD? YES.
AND I EVEN HAVE THE, THE NEW SITE WHICH IS NOT COMPARABLE TO THE OTHERS, BUT IT'S OKAY.
I GOTTA ASK THEM, WHAT SOFTWARE ARE YOU ARE THEY USING TO MAKE THOSE NICE DIAGRAMS?
ALRIGHT, MADAM CHAIR, IN LIGHT OF THAT AMENDMENT, I MOVE TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IF NECESSARY.
UH, PRESUMING THAT WELL THE APPLICANT FORMALLY AMENDS ITS ZONING, THEN IT MAY NOT BE NECESSARY.
UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE TO OCTOBER 26TH IF NECESSARY.
SO IF, UM, IF THEY APPROVE IT AND IT WON'T NEED TO COME BACK TO US, I BELIEVE.
I LOVE BEING HERE BY THE WAY,
UM, SO THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PECK, CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE, MR. BUSANTE? AYE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT, OKAY.
IT'S MY FIRST TIME BEING HERE SO I, YOU SEE WE'RE VERY NERVOUS.
WE ARE ALL DONE WITH THE AGENDA.
[Approval of Minutes 19. Consideration and Approval of September 28, 2022, Planning Commission Minutes. ]
I GET A MOTION FOR THE MINUTES OR DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? MOTION FOR APPROVAL.SO A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SIEGEL.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER.
AND ARE THERE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM STAFF REAL QUICK? UH, AGAIN, JUST A REMINDER, ON OCTOBER 26TH, OUR WORK SESSION WILL BEGIN AT 1230 TO ALLOW TIME FOR TWO BRIEFINGS FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ON FORTHCOMING REGIONAL CENTER PLANS.
UH, I DID WANNA MENTION AS WELL, UH, WAS ABLE TO CONFIRM WITH THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK IF YOU HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION FOR REAPPOINTMENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITHIN THE LAST YEAR, THOSE APPLICATIONS ARE VALID FOR A YEAR.
SO NO NEED TO REAPPLY IF YOU DID RECENTLY.