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          DO WE CANCEL? GOOD MORNING. 
          WELCOME EVERYONE TO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER. 
          MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL RULE COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ RODRIGUEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER VERAN HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL IS MAKING HER WAY TO THE CHAIR. 
           COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY IS HERE, VIRTUALLY CHAIR CAB HDA. 
          YES, I'M HERE. 
          HERE, CHAIR. 
          WE HAVE A QUORUM. 
          THANK YOU, MA'AM. 
          AND THANKS EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE. 
          IN ADDITION TO THE APPROVAL OF, UM, LAST MEETING'S MINUTES, THERE'S THREE ITEMS FOR BRIEFING PURPOSES ONLY TODAY. 
          MEMBERS, YOU'LL HAVE SEVEN MINUTES TO ASK QUESTIONS, THREE MINUTES FOR FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS. 
          AND TODAY, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING A COUPLE OF VERY IMPORTANT TOPICS THROUGHOUT THIS PAST YEAR. 
          OUR COMMITTEE HAS FOCUSED ON MENTAL HEALTH AND THE REALITIES OF LIVING THROUGH A PANDEMIC HAS SHINED A LIGHT ON THE IMPORTANCE OF MENTAL HEALTH. 
          I'VE BEEN SAYING THAT ONE OF THE, THE SILVER LININGS TO THE PANDEMIC IS THAT WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH, AND HOPEFULLY IT'S REMOVED AT LEAST A LITTLE OF THE STIGMA. 
          AND I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TODAY. 
          WE'LL HEAR ABOUT PROGRAMS AND OPTIONS. 
          OUR FIRST RESPONDERS HAVE TO HELP PROCESS AND DEAL WITH THE TRAUMATIC SITUATIONS THAT THEY DEAL WITH EVERY DAY. 
          WE'LL ALSO HEAR ABOUT OUR, HOW OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE PREPARING TO RESPOND TO CRITICAL SITUATIONS. 
          OF COURSE, THAT'S BEEN ALL ON THE FOREFRONT OF OUR MINDS FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, AND IT'S TIME THAT WE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS IN PUBLIC, BOTH OF THEM ON MAY 24TH. 
          OF COURSE, MATT TRAGEDY STRUCK INCREDIBLY CLOSE TO HOME. 
          AND WHILE WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ALWAYS PREVENT SOMETHING AS TRAGIC AS A SCHOOL SHOOTING, WE OWE IT TO OUR COMMUNITY TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE PREPARED TO RESPOND. 
          FINALLY, WE'LL RECEIVE AN UPDATE ON THE ANIMAL CARE SERVICES STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. 
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THE FIRST ITEM IN OUR AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM OUR SEPTEMBER 27TH MEETING. 
          I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. 
          I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          SECOND WITH A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? AYE TO BE. 
          I WANNA BE CLEAR. 
          I ALL RIGHT, . 
          LET'S DO THAT ONE MORE TIME. 
          . 
          UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. 
          A A AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AY, ANY OPPOSED? ANY OPPOSED MINUTES ARE APPROVED. 
          WE'LL, NOW BEGIN WITH PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          WAS THERE ANY, ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? MADAM CLERK? WE HAD NO PUBLIC SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WITH NO PUBLIC COMMENT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO 
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THE SECOND ITEM, A BRIEFING BY OUR SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SAN ANTONIO FIRE DEPARTMENT ON THE MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAMS AND TRAININGS PROVIDED TO FIRST RESPONDERS. 
          GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR. 
          UM, TODAY WE HAVE BOTH CHIEFS, CHIEF MCMANUS AND CHIEF HOOD CO-PRESENTING ON THIS VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC, WHICH IS MENTAL HEALTH THAT WILL PROVIDE THE COMMITTEE A BRIEFING OF THOSE PROGRAMS THAT ARE DELIVERED TO OUR COMMUNITY ON A DAILY BASIS. 
          AND BOTH DEPART, BOTH DEPARTMENTS PARTNER IN MOST OF THESE PROGRAMS. AND THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE CO-PRESENTATION AND AS WELL AS PART OF THIS PRESENTATION. 
          IN ADDITION TO THE MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE, UH, PROGRAMS PROVIDED TO OUR COMMUNITY, WE'LL ALSO PROVIDE A BRIEFING ON THE MENTAL HEALTH, UH, PROGRAMS AND WELLNESS PROGRAMS, A AVAIL AVAILABLE TO OUR FIRST RESPONDERS IN THOSE DEPARTMENTS. 
          SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CHIEF MCMANUS. 
          THANK YOU, MARIA. 
          UH, GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. 
          UH, BEFORE I START, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE, UH, ASSISTANT CHIEF KAREN FA. 
          KAREN IS, UM, OVERSEE THE FUSION CENTER UNDER WHICH THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT IS ASSIGNED. 
          SO, UH, FIRST SLIDE PLEASE. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          UH, LET ME GO AHEAD AND GET THE INTRODUCTION OUT ON OUR SIDE ALSO. 
          SO, UH, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE DEPUTY CHIEF ANDREW ESTRADA. 
          HE'S OVER OUR OPERATIONS DIVISION, WHICH IS ALSO IN CHARGE OF THE MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAMS AS FAR AS WHAT WE DO, RESPONDING TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          I'LL BE BACK TO FOLLOW UP TALKING ABOUT OUR INTERNAL PROGRAMS FOR OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND, AND CIVILIANS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO LEMME BEGIN BY SAYING THAT, UH, OUR, UH, MENTAL HEALTH UNIT, UH, WAS STARTED BACK IN 2008, AND IT HAD TWO OFFICERS AND ONE SERGEANT ASSIGNED. 
          TODAY, OVER THE YEARS, IT'S GROWN TO 19 POLICE OFFICERS, TWO DETECTIVES, AND ONE SERGEANT. 
          AND, UH, WHAT THEY DO, IN CASE ANYONE IS NOT CLEAR ON WHAT THEY DO, IS THEY SIMPLY RESPOND TO MENTAL HEALTH CALLS AND COORDINATE WITH MENTAL HEALTH AGENCIES SUCH AS NAMI, SUCH AS C H C S. 
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THAT'S WHAT OUR MENTAL HEALTH UNIT DOES. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          AND THE SAN ANTONIO FIRE DEPARTMENT'S MOBILE INTEGRATED HEALTHCARE UNIT, UH, BEGAN IN OCTOBER OF 2014 WITH A PILOT PROGRAM. 
          AND THE INITIAL, UH, REASON FOR THE, FOR THE BEGINNING OF THE PROGRAM WAS TO REALLY IDENTIFY WAYS OF TAKING OUR TRADITIONAL FIRE DEPARTMENT AND USE 'EM IN VERY NON-TRADITIONAL WAYS. 
          SO OUR FOCUS INITIALLY WITH THE, WITH M I H WAS TO WORK ON HIGH VOLUME UTILIZERS AND TRY TO REALLY GET TO THE ROOT ISSUE OF WHAT, WHAT, UH, WAS CAUSING, UH, UH, INCREASING IN CALL VOLUME FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS. 
          UH, WE QUICKLY ADAPTED AND WE'VE GROWN CONSIDERABLY OVER THE LAST, OVER THE LAST, UH, SIX YEARS. 
          AND WE NOW HAVE 10 PROGRAMS THAT ARE UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF M I H. 
          WE CURRENTLY HAVE 10 PARAMEDICS ASSIGNED. 
          NINE OF THOSE ARE ARE ENGINEERS AND ONE'S A LIEUTENANT. 
          UH, WE ARE THANKFUL COUNSEL AND, AND CITY MANAGEMENT THAT WE RECEIVED ONE EXTRA POSITION DEDICATED TO MENTAL HEALTH IN, IN THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR. 
          ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE 184 PERSONNEL THAT ARE M I H ALTERNATES THAT, THAT ARE ABLE TO JUMP IN AND HELP IN THESE, THESE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE, UH, AVAILABLE NEXT, NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO IF WE GO BACK TO 2019, WE LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF MENTAL HEALTH CALLS. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, 21,400, ALMOST 21,500 CALLS, 20 IN 2019. 
          THEY'VE INCREASED IN 2020, WHICH IS SOMEWHAT OF AN ANOMALY BECAUSE EVERYTHING WE SEE DURING COVID HAS WAS DECREASED, BUT WE SEE THE MENTAL HEALTH CALLS HAVE INCREASED. 
          AND THEN IN 2021, UH, ALMOST, UH, 20, UH, 29,100. 
          AND THEN LOOKING AT, UH, YEAR TO DATE, 20 22, 2300, ALMOST 2,400 CALLS. 
          IF WE DO THE AVERAGES, UH, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE'RE GOING TO SURPASS OUR 2021 TOTAL NUMBER. 
          ANDREW? YES, SIR. 
          AND YES, THANK YOU, CHIEF ON THE, ON THE FIRE SIDE. 
          WE ALSO SEEN AN INCREASE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. 
          UH, WE DO KNOW A LOT OF THAT IS DUE TO C AND WE ARE THANKFUL THAT THOSE NUMBERS SEEM TO BE REDUCING JUST A LITTLE BIT GOING INTO YEAR 22. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO OUR, OUR CRISIS INTERVENTION TEAM, WE, IT, IT STARTED WITH POLICE AND WE STARTED BACK IN, UM, ACTUALLY OUR, OUR CRISIS INTERVENTION TRAINING STARTED WITH POLICE. 
          AND WE STARTED BACK IN ACTUALLY 2007 WHEN IT WAS A VOLUNTARY, UH, PROGRAM. 
          AND THEN, UH, UH, I THINK ABOUT A YEAR LATER OR SO, IT BECAME MANDATORY THAT EVERYONE WAS REQUIRED TO TAKE C I T. 
          UH, AND THEN IT BECAME A PART OF THE CURRICULUM IN THE ACADEMY WERE, IN ORDER TO GRADUATE FROM THE ACADEMY, YOU HAD TO HAVE THE 40 HOURS C I T TRAINING. 
          UH, ALL OF OUR CALL TAKERS AT THE PSAP OR THE PUBLIC SAFETY ANSWERING POINT, UH, ARE TRAINED IN C I T. 
          UH, AND WE, WE ALSO TAUGHT THE CRISIS INTERVENTION TRAINING COURSE TO THE I S D CHIEFS. 
          AND I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT THE C I T TRAINING. 
          SO IF YOU EVER HAVE A CHANCE TO GO TO THAT FOR THE WEEK, I WOULD REALLY INVITE YOU. 
          UH, C I T TRAINING IS REALLY THE, IS THE CORE FOUNDATIONAL ELEMENT OF ALL OF OUR MULTIDISCIPLINARY RESPONSE TEAMS HERE IN THE CITY. 
          UH, THE SAN ANTONIO FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN GOING TO THIS TRAINING FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS. 
          UH, SO SS A P D HAS INVITED US, UH, FOR, FOR OVER A DECADE TO THAT. 
          UH, THERE ARE OUR INDIVIDUALS AND, AND DEPARTMENTS REPRESENTED FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT COME TO SAN ANTONIO TO TAKE THIS TRAINING. 
          AND SO I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH TO HAVE THOSE TOOLS AVAILABLE ON SCENE TO DEESCALATE, UH, A CALL. 
          AND TO HAVE THOSE FOR BOTH THE POLICE OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS AVAILABLE IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. 
          UM, WE TOO HAVE FOLLOWED SUIT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. 
          ALL OF OUR CADET TRAINING CLASSES NOW OFFER ARE NOW REQUIRED TO TAKE C I T TRAINING AS WELL BEFORE THEY GRADUATE. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND MOVING ON TO OUR SA CORPS TEAM, UH, SA CORPS WAS, UH, STARTED IN APRIL OF 2022, AND IT ENDS IN MARCH OF 2023. 
          IT'S A, IT'S A, UH, UH, A, UH, PILOT PROJECT RIGHT NOW. 
          IT, IT RUNS DURING THE DAY IN THE CENTRAL, UM, CENTRAL PATROL SUBSTATION. 
          IT, IT RUNS FROM ZERO 700 TO 2300 HOURS, UH, DURING THE, UM, EVERY DAY. 
          AND THEN, UH, IT'S COMPRISED OF THREE MEMBERS. 
          IT'S COMPRISED OF A CLINICIAN, A PARAMEDIC, AND A MENTAL HEALTH OFFICER. 
          AND WHAT THEY DO IS THEY SIMPLY RESPOND TO MENTAL HEALTH CALLS. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          I'M GONNA JUMP IN THERE IF YOU DON'T MIND, CHIEF. 
          WHAT'S THAT? I'M GONNA JUMP IN AS WELL. 
          SO, SO THIS TEAM HERE IS, HAS, UH, WE, WE'VE HAD MULTIDISCIPLINARY TEAMS, UH, FOR SOME TIME IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR IS, IS REALLY A COLLABORATION, AS CHIEF SAID, WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, ALSO INCLUDING METRO HEALTH AS A, A MANAGING PARTNER WITH US AS WELL. 
          SO THIS, THIS TEAM HAS, HAS COME ABOUT QUICKLY, UM, AND WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THE WORK THEY'RE DOING. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE OVER 800 CALLS AS OF TODAY. 
          UH, WE'VE SEEN THAT 
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THERE'S BEEN A, A, A REALLY GOOD TURNOUT AND A REALLY GOOD, UH, RESPONSE FROM THE PUBLIC AS THE TEAM SHOWS UP AND WORKS THROUGH WHATEVER INDIVIDUAL THAT THAT NEEDS ASSISTANCE IN A NINE ONE ONE CALL FASHION. 
          UH, WE ALSO ARE, ARE LOOKING TO END THIS PROGRAM OR, OR THE PILOT PROGRAM IN 23. 
          WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND WE KNOW THAT DATA'S GONNA BE A POSITIVE. 
          AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR EXPANSION TO NEXT YEAR, AND WE THANK CITY MANAGEMENT FOR ALLOWING US TO HAVE, UH, SOME MONEY SET ASIDE TO DO THAT. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          I'LL START WITH, WITH, UH, THE PROGRAM FOR INTENSIVE CARE COLLABORATION. 
          SO, KIND OF GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THIS PROGRAM. 
          SO, UH, EACH OF US, BETWEEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND FIRE DEPARTMENT HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE, WE, WE CONSIDER TO BE HIGH VOLUME UTILIZERS, SO DOES THE HOSPITALS. 
          SO IN 2017, THE SOUTH TEXAS CRISIS COLLABORATIVE AS PART OF A COMMITTEE OF THE STRAC, UH, REALLY GOT TOGETHER. 
          AND THIS GROUP HAS BEEN MEETING FOR ABOUT SEVEN YEARS. 
          THE CITY IS, IS, IS DEEPLY INVOLVED IN THIS COMMITTEE AS WELL AS COUNTY. 
          ALL THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS DEALING WITH MENTAL HEALTH. 
          UH, PHILANTHROPIES IS THERE AS WELL, AND ALL THE HOSPITALS. 
          AND SO THIS GROUP COMES TOGETHER EVERY MONTH FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS. 
          AND YOU REALLY KIND OF WORK THROUGH GAPS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN COMMUNITY. 
          ONE OF THE IDEAS AND ISSUES THAT THAT WAS, WAS THAT CAME UP WAS THAT THE HOSPITAL SYSTEMS HAVE HIGH VOLUME UTILIZERS. 
          AND SO BOTH THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS MENTAL HEALTH UNIT AND M MI H UNIT WERE APPROACHED AND ASKED IF WE COULD IDENTIFY WAYS TO TRY TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING ED INTO THE HOSPITAL SYSTEMS. SO FROM THAT, IN, FROM THAT INITIATIVE, UH, THE PROGRAM FOR INTENSIVE CARE COLLABORATION BEGAN. 
          SO THIS IS A MORE OF A PROACTIVE APPROACH. 
          SO THIS, THIS PROGRAM IS, IS SETS OUT TO IDENTIFY THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN TO THE, UH, BEEN INDEED MORE THAN SIX TIMES IN A YEAR OR MORE THAN THREE TIMES IN THE LAST MONTH. 
          SO OUR, OUR, OUR POLICE OFFICERS MENTAL HEALTH UNIT, UH, SS A P D, UH, THE M I H GROUP, AND THE CLINICIANS GO OUT AND WE, WE IDENTIFY THESE INDIVIDUALS WHEREVER THEY MAY BE, WHETHER THAT'S HOMED OR NOT HOMED. 
          UH, ONE OF THE REALLY CRITICAL THING THAT THAT MAKES THIS PROGRAM WORK IS THAT C H C S HAS ALLOWED US TO HAVE A, A PSYCHIATRIST ON, ON BOARD. 
          SO THIS TEAM, UH, OPERATES A CLINIC AT THE ADJUSTING RECOVERY CENTER ON JOSEPHINE STREET. 
          THERE'S A, THERE'S A, A CLINIC AND THERE'S AN ACTUAL PSYCHIATRIST THAT IS FULL-TIME FOR THIS PROGRAM. 
          SO THIS IS A PROACTIVE PROGRAM, AND SA CORE WOULD BE A, A REACTIVE PROGRAM. 
          ONCE 9 1 1 IS CALLED, UH, AS WE CAN SEE, THE, THE RESPONSES FOR EMERGENCY DETENTIONS HAS GONE DOWN. 
          AS WE LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF, OF TIMES THAT SOMEBODY IS EMERGENCY DETAINED BEFORE ENTERING THE PROGRAM AND AFTER WE'VE SEEN A GOOD REDUCTION FROM 8.85 TO 1.21. 
          AND ALSO THOSE INDIVIDUALS, UH, HAVE A REDUCTION IN EMERGENCY ROOM VISITS FROM CLOSE TO EIGHT TO DOWN TO TWO. 
          AND SO OUR, THE GOAL OF THIS PROGRAM IS TO IDENTIFY THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND REALLY WORK TO TRY TO GET THEM BACK INTO COMMUNITY. 
          SO WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO, YOU KNOW, AS BASIC AS IF WE NEED TO TAKE 'EM TO GET LICENSES, WE NEED TO GET 'EM, UH, TO GET SOCIAL SECURITY CARDS. 
          WHATEVER THE TEAM NEEDS TO DO TO HELP THEM REENGAGE, UH, THAT IS THE FOCUS OF THIS GROUP. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO, SO IN 2008, UH, ONCE AGAIN, OUR MENTAL HEALTH UNIT WAS BORN. 
          UH, OVER THE YEARS, WE, WE'VE EXPERIENCED A NUMBER OF HIGH VOLUME CALLERS WHO WERE EXPERIENCING, UH, MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. 
          AND IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THAT HIGH VOLUME, WE ADDED A CLINICIAN TO THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT TO ADDRESS THE, THE NUMBER OF HIGH VOLUME CALLERS. 
          UM, THEY'RE EMBEDDED WITH, WITH M H U. 
          AND, UH, AGAIN, THEY ARE, UH, THEY WERE EMBEDDED TO ADDRESS THE, THE NUMBER OF CHRONIC 9 1 1 CALLERS IN ORDER TO REDUCE THAT NUMBER. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          NEXT IS THE SAN ANTONIO FIRE DEPARTMENT OPIATE OVERDOSE PREVENTION AND CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM. 
          SO THIS ITEM HERE WILL BE COMING TO COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER 3RD, HOPEFULLY. 
          UH, AND THIS IS REALLY AN EXTENSION OF TWO EXISTING PROGRAMS. SO WE HAVE THE T TOUR PROGRAM THAT STARTED IN 2017, AND THE MEDICINE ASSISTED TREATMENT PROGRAM THAT STARTED IN 2018. 
          UH, THIS IS THE COMBINATION OF THOSE TWO PROGRAMS FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR OF FUNDING. 
          IF, IF APPROVED, UH, THIS, THIS PROGRAM WILL CONTINUE THE EXISTING PRACTICE OF IDENTIFYING INDIVIDUALS WHO'VE HAD AN OVERDOSE THROUGH OUR, OUR E M SS AND 9 1 1 SYSTEM, WE WILL MAKE CONTACT WITH, WITH THAT PERSON WITHIN 24 HOURS. 
          OUR GOAL IS TO DELIVER A NARCAN OR, OR, AND TEACH C P R TO INDIVIDUALS THAT, THAT NEED THAT. 
          UH, WE ALSO WILL ALLOW FOR SOMEONE WHO'S HAVING, UM, WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS. WE ALSO DO INFIELD INDUCTION WITH SUBOXONE. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT WAS, WE WERE THE FIRST IN THE COUNTRY TO DO THAT. 
          UM, REALLY THE WHOLE POINT IS TO GET SOMEBODY INTO, INTO TREATMENT, WHETHER THAT WOULD BE IN INPATIENT OR OUTPATIENT. 
          THE GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO GET SOMEONE TO HELP THEY NEED. 
          SO THIS PROGRAM, UH, AS IT IS SLATED TO GO ON NOVEMBER 3RD AND REALLY IS AN EXTENSION OF EXISTING PROGRAMS. NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO OUR 
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CALL TAKERS, UH, OFTEN RECEIVE THREATENING CALLS FROM OFTENTIMES ANONYMOUS SOURCES. 
          AND WHAT HAPPENS THEN IS WE HAVE A, A BEHAVIORAL THREAT ASSESSMENT GROUP, OR, OR B T A GROUP, UH, IT CONSISTS OF, UH, OFFICERS FROM MENTAL HEALTH, UH, THE FUSION CENTER, UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND BEXAR COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. 
          AND THAT GROUP WILL GET TOGETHER WHEN THEY'LL, WHEN A CALL, A THREATENING CALL COMES IN AND THEY'LL SIT DOWN AND ASSESS THAT CALL, AND THEY'LL TRY TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT RISES TO THE LEVEL OF A CRIMINAL OFFENSE OR IF IT'S SOMETHING ELSE HAVING TO DO WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. 
          AND THEN ONCE THEY REACH THAT CONCLUSION AS TO WHAT'S CAUSING THAT CALL, THEY'LL TRY TO DETERMINE THE CREDIBILITY OF IT. 
          AND THEN THEY'LL, THEY'LL, UM, WHATEVER THE NEXT, UM, ACTION THEY NEED TO TAKE BASED ON THEIR ASSESSMENT, THEN THEY'LL TAKE THAT, THAT, THAT ACTION COULD BE TURNING IT OVER TO THE HOMICIDE UNIT FOR A, FOR A, A TERRORIST THREATS, UH, CASE OR SOME OTHER UNIT. 
          UH, WHERE'S MOST APPROPRIATE? NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO, UM, I WANNA RUN DOWN A, A A QUICK LIST OF, UM, OFFICER WELLNESS PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE IN THE DEPARTMENT, UH, STARTING WITH OUR OFFICER WELLNESS PROGRAM. 
          UH, UM, I'M NOT GONNA READ EACH ONE OF THESE, BUT YOU SEE THE NUMBER OF, UH, PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO OFFICERS IN THE DEPARTMENT WHO ARE, UH, EXPERIENCING HEALTH OR WELLNESS ISSUES. 
          AND, UH, WE HAVE A, UH, MATTER OF FACT, HE'S IN OUR AUDIENCE RIGHT HERE. 
          WE HAVE ONE OF OUR PSYCHOLOGISTS, OUR LEAD PSYCHOLOGIST HERE IN THE OFFICE RIGHT NOW WHO RUNS THE, UH, THE, UH, PSYCH, THE PSYCHOLOGICAL SERVICES PROGRAM FOR OFFICERS. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO, OUR NEXT STEPS IN TAKING A LOOK AT OUR, UH, THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE FOR THE DEPARTMENT. 
          WE'VE CREATED A COMMITTEE COMPRISED OF, UH, A VARIETY OF, OF OFFICERS AT A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT RANKS. 
          WE HAVE THE, UH, DANNY DIAZ, WHO'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE POLICE ASSOCIATION, IS A MEMBER OF THAT COMMITTEE. 
          UH, ASSISTANT CHIEF FAS IS A MEMBER OF THAT COMMITTEE. 
          AND BETWEEN THE MONTHS OF OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER, WE'RE GONNA DEVELOP AN OFFICER SURVEY. 
          WE'LL COMPILE THOSE RESULTS. 
          AND THEN FOR THE NEXT TWO MONTHS IN DECEMBER AND JANUARY, WE WILL HAVE, UH, THERE'LL BE MEETING WITH, UH, POLICE OFFICERS THROUGHOUT THE DEPARTMENT FOR INFORMATION SESSIONS. 
          AND THEN FINALLY IN FEBRUARY AND MARCH, WE WILL IDENTIFY, UH, AND EVALUATE RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW WE MAY IMPROVE THE WELLNESS PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY, THAT CURRENTLY EXIST. 
          AND, UH, THAT IS ALL WE HAVE FOR THIS PRESENTATION. 
          UH, CHARLES, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          SO, UM, IT, IT'S, IT'S MY BELIEF THAT OUR FIREFIGHTERS NEED TO SHOW UP AT WORK MENTALLY, PHYSICALLY, AND EMOTIONALLY PREPARED TO DO A VERY RIGOROUS AND DANGEROUS JOB EVERY SINGLE DAY. 
          SO WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW PROGRAMS THAT WE'LL RUN OVER REAL QUICK WITH YOU RIGHT NOW. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SO AGAIN, UH, THE CORTICO APP, UM, EMPLOYEE CRISIS HOTLINE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, CHAPLAIN BEHAVIORAL SERVICES, OUR HEALTH SCREENING AND OUR PEER SUPPORT ARE BASICALLY ON THE WHEEL OF OUR MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO, THE CORTICO APP, UM, IT WAS DEVELOPED IN 2021. 
          UH, IT PROVIDES 24 7 ACCESS TO 40 DIFFERENT MODULES, , UH, SLEEP, FINANCIAL BEHAVIORS, UH, ALCOHOLISM. 
          ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT, UM, MODULES ARE THERE FOR OUR MEMBERS TO ACCESS THEIR THERAPISTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN NETWORK ALSO, UH, FOR CANCER AWARENESS RESOURCES. 
          SO, UH, OUR FIREFIGHTERS ALSO RECEIVE A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SCREENING WHEN THEY TAKE THEIR ANNUAL PHYSICAL, IF THERE ARE CERTAIN, UM, TARGETS IN THAT, UH, MEDICAL, PHYSICAL, THEY WILL BE, UH, RECOMMENDED TO SEEK, UM, FURTHER EVALUATION WITH OUR PSYCHOLOGIST AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          UM, SO OUR EMPLOYEE, UH, CRISIS HOTLINE PROVIDES 24 HOUR PEER SUPPORT. 
          UM, 24 7 IS AVAILABLE FOR, UM, PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL ISSUES. 
          AND THE TRAINING IS CONDUCTED BY OUR STAFF. 
          SO WE HAVE OUR PEER SUPPORTERS THAT ARE PART OF THAT. 
          AND WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS THE CLOSEST SOURCE OF HELP TO SOMEONE THAT'S HAVING A MENTAL ISSUE IS THE PEOPLE THAT YOU WORK WITH EVERY SINGLE DAY. 
          SO HAVING PEOPLE AVAILABLE THAT, THAT KNOW YOUR STRUGGLES, KNOW YOUR CHALLENGES, KNOW THE SAME JOB THAT YOU DO, UH, OFTEN HELPS US AS FAR AS GETTING THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HAVING ISSUES. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SO, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES AND THE CHAPLAINCY PROGRAM. 
          SO WE HAVE A FULL-TIME STAFF PSYCHOLOGIST. 
          WE HAVE, UM, THAT IS INTEGRATED INTO EVERYTHING THAT WE DO. 
          UH, WE HAVE 19 VOLUNTEER CHAPLAINS. 
          AND SO CHAPLAINS ARE CRITICAL FOR US. 
          UH, WE USE THEM FOR 
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OUR MEMBERS, FOR THEIR FAMILIES, AND FOR CITIZENS. 
          WE HAVE EVENTS SOMETIMES THAT YOU JUST CAN'T DRIVE AWAY FROM A CIVILIAN THAT HAS HAD A ISSUE. 
          SO WE HAVE CHAPLAINS. 
          SO 19, THEY'RE AVAILABLE 24 7. 
          UH, THEY CAN PROVIDE GUIDANCE, COUNSELING, UH, FOR OUR MEMBERS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          WHAT'S NEXT FOR US? SO WE ARE GOING TO DO A MENTAL HEALTH STAND DOWN. 
          AND, UH, WE HAVE DONE THINGS IN THE PAST DURING COVID TWO TIMES WHERE, UM, WE CALLED EVERY MEMBER OF OUR DEPARTMENT CLOSE TO 2000 PEOPLE, UNIFORM AND CIVILIAN, JUST TO CHECK ON THEM, SEE HOW THEY'RE DOING DURING COVID. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA BE DOING A LOT OF THINGS AS FAR AS A MENTAL HEALTH STAND DOWN TO LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING OUR MEMBERS AND WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE BECAUSE THEY, THEY CHANGE CONSTANTLY. 
          WE'RE GONNA START A THERAPY DOG PROGRAM, WHICH WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT. 
          UM, DOGS, WHEN YOU BRING THEM INTO TRAUMATIC SITUATIONS, I'VE GOT A C S BEHIND ME, SO MAYBE WE CAN WORK A DEAL, BUT WE WANT TO BRING DOGS INTO THE PROGRAM AS FAR AS, UH, HELPING OUR MEMBERS BECAUSE THEY DO, UH, ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE STRESS, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA, UM, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. 
          THE SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING CAMPAIGN, UH, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IF, IF OUR MEMBERS SEE SOMETHING AND ANOTHER MEMBER THAT THEY SAY SOMETHING AND TRY TO HELP THEM. 
          WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT ENHANCED MESSAGING. 
          WE'RE GOT SOME TALENTED FOLKS, UH, IN OUR DEPARTMENT TO LOOK AT VIDEOS AND INCREASE MESSAGING THROUGH VIDEOS AND POSTERS. 
          UH, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT OUR TRACKING EXPOSURES, UH, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE SEE THINGS OUT IN THE FIELD THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE EXPOSURES ARE TRACKED AND HAVE A FOLLOW-UP PROGRAM. 
          THANK YOU. 
           THANK YOU, UH, TO BOTH CHIEFS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR, THE PRESENTATION AND, AND CHIEF ESTRADA AS WELL. 
          UM, THIS COMMITTEE IS, UH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, A A REALLY KEY COMMITTEE FOR OUR CITY, AND THERE'S A LONG LIST OF ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT. 
          UH, EVERY MONTH WE, WE HAVE TO KIND OF SORT THROUGH, UM, THE MOST PRESSING ISSUES. 
          AND THIS MONTH, I, I FELT A VERY COMPELLING AND PRESSING NEED TO TALK ABOUT SPECIFICALLY MENTAL HEALTH FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. 
          UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE, THE, THE FIRST PART OF THE PRESENTATION, UM, ABOUT THE SERVICES THAT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS ARE PROVIDING TO OUR COMMUNITY, UH, BUT REALLY WANNA FOCUS TODAY ON MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. 
          I THINK IT'S MAYBE THE NATURE OF, UM, THE WORK THAT YOU DO, THE CALLING THAT OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND OUR FIREFIGHTERS HAVE TO BE SELFLESS. 
          SO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND WE DO REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, UM, AND THOSE INCREDIBLE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE. 
          BUT TODAY I REALLY WANNA FOCUS ON OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, UM, AIRPORT POLICE, PARK POLICE, S A P D, AND OF COURSE OUR FIREFIGHTERS. 
          UM, THIS, WHAT STRIKES ME IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE ALL HAVE HEARD, AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE'VE HAD SEVEN POLICE OFFICER SUICIDES IN THE LAST 20 MONTHS, AND THAT'S SEVEN OFFICERS FOR WHOM ALL THESE SYSTEMS THAT ARE IN INCREDIBLE AND, AND, AND VERY HELPFUL TO MANY. 
          BUT THESE SYSTEMS DIDN'T WORK, SO THEY FELL THROUGH THESE GAPS. 
          THAT'S REALLY WHERE I THINK WE NEED TO SPEND OUR TIME, IS FIGURING OUT HOW TO FILL THOSE GAPS. 
          WHY DIDN'T THEY SEEK THE HELP? DID THEY SEEK THE HELP AND IT DIDN'T WORK FOR THEM? UM, CAN WE ENHANCE ANY OF THESE PROGRAMS FOR BOTH POLICE AND FIRE? CAN WE PARTNER WITH OUTSIDE, UM, AGENCIES SO THAT MAYBE A POLICE OFFICER OR A FIREFIGHTER DOESN'T FEEL, UM, LIKE THEY HAVE TO GO INTERNAL IF THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT THEY, THAT THEY WANT TO DO OR THAT THEY TRUST? UM, EV WE'VE ALL BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH. 
          THE LAST TWO YEARS HAS BEEN, UH, A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT. 
          WE'VE, UM, ALLOCATED ARPA DOLLARS TOWARDS IT, AND IT'S ALL BEEN FOCUSED ON OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND I THINK SOMETIMES WE TEND TO FORGET THAT OUR POLICE OFFICERS, OUR FIREFIGHTERS ARE A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. 
          THEY ARE, UH, AS MUCH AS, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THEY DON'T ALWAYS LIKE TO SEEK OUT HELP BECAUSE THEY'RE TOUGH WOMEN AND MEN. 
          UM, AND THEY ARE VERY TOUGH, TOUGHER THAN, THAN, UH, A LOT OF US THAT DON'T, DON'T DO THAT JOB. 
          BUT, BUT THEY'RE STILL HUMAN AND THEY'RE STILL DEALING WITH THE LAST TWO YEARS OF PANDEMIC, AND THEY'RE STILL DEALING WITH ALL THE OTHER PRESSURES THAT WE ALL HAVE EVERY DAY AFTER SEEING SOMETIMES VERY HORRIFIC THINGS ON THE JOB. 
          SO I I, I REALLY WANNA KIND OF BE IN THAT SPACE TODAY WHERE WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHAT TO DO NEXT. 
          THE COMMITTEE IS FANTASTIC. 
          I'M VERY GRATEFUL THAT, THAT Y'ALL HAD THE FORESIGHT TO, TO HAVE A COMMITTEE AND, AND REALLY TALK ABOUT IT, AND INCLUDING POLICE OFFICERS, INCLUDING THE LEADERSHIP, INCLUDING OUR UNIONS. 
          UM, BUT I, I REALLY DO WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING HONEST ABOUT WHAT'S, WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WHAT'S NOT HAPPENING. 
          AND SO OF COURSE I WANNA BE A PART OF THAT CONVERSATION. 
          UM, I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH CARE CARE FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS FOR A LONG TIME, BUT WITH THESE NUMBERS, IT'S JUST BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE ALL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT VERY OPENLY. 
          SO I APPRECIATE, AGAIN, YOUR TIME HERE AND, AND TALKING ABOUT IT TODAY. 
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UM, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, UM, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE PEER SUPPORT PARTICIPANTS. 
          OH, ACTUALLY, I DO WANNA MENTION SOMETHING. 
          I WAS, I DID HEAR FROM CANINE FOR WARRIORS. 
          UM, THEY, THEY'RE, UH, RIGHT NEXT TO A C SS AND THEY TAKE, UH, OUR, OUR, UM, SOME OF OUR, UM, DOGS THAT CAN'T BE ADOPTED AND THEY TRAIN THEM UP TO HELP VETERANS. 
          I I WONDER IF THERE'S A PARTNERSHIP THERE THAT WE CAN WORK ON. 
          UM, BUT WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT OR, UM, OKAY. 
          SO, UM, MY QUESTION WAS ABOUT PEER SUPPORTS, UH, PEER SUPPORT PARTICIPANTS, HOW THEY'RE TRAINED. 
          CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? SURE. 
          UM, CHAIR, UH, SO WE HAVE ABOUT 25 OFFICERS ASSIGNED TO PEER SUPPORT AS A VOLUNTEER GROUP. 
          AND IT, THEY'RE KIND OF A CROSS SECTION OF THE DEPARTMENT ASSIGNED THROUGHOUT. 
          UH, AS I MENTIONED, THEY'RE VOLUNTEER AND THEY DO, THEY DO, UH, ATTEND TRAINING. 
          UH, THEY, THEY ATTEND WELLNESS TRAINING, THEY ATTEND, UH, MENTAL HEALTH TRAINING, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT OUR MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS RECEIVE. 
          UM, UH, BUT WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT THE PEER SUPPORT, UH, OFFICERS ARE THAT THEY, UM, MANY OF THEM, A MAJORITY OF THEM, I WISH I HAD AN EXACT NUMBER FOR YOU, UM, HAVE EXPERIENCE IN, UM, OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS AND TRAUMATIC INCIDENTS THAT HAVE HA HAPPENED TO THEM EITHER IN THEIR PERSONAL LIVES OR IN THEIR PROFESSIONAL LIVES THAT, UM, GIVE THEM THAT ABILITY TO SHARE THAT EXPERIENCE WITH ANOTHER OFFICER WHO'S GOING THROUGH THAT. 
          UH, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE'S AN OFFICER WHO'S INVOLVED IN A, A SHOOTING, THEN, UH, A PEER SUPPORT MEMBER WHO'S BEEN THROUGH A SHOOTING, UH, WILL REACH OUT TO THAT OFFICER AND JUST WALK THEM THROUGH, HEY, THIS IS WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN NEXT. 
          UH, THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT. 
          THAT SORT OF THING. 
          OR, UH, IF A, IF ANOTHER MEMBER OF PEER SUPPORT'S HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN X, Y, Z, UH, THEY'LL REACH OUT TO THE MEMBER EXPERIENCING THAT THING RIGHT NOW. 
          SO THEY HAVE SHARED EXPERIENCES, UH, IN ADDITION TO RECEIVING, UM, CLASSROOM TRAINING OR YOU THAT, THAT SORT OF THING. 
          SO, SO THEY RECEIVE THE SAME SORT OF TRAINING AS MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS, BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY HAVE LIVED EXPERIENCES THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO SHARE, UH, WITH THE OFFICERS. 
          AND I'M SURE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU HAVE TO DOING THIS JOB. 
          YOU WANNA HEAR FROM SOMEBODY WHO IS ALSO KNOWS THIS JOB DAY IN AND DAY OUT. 
          UH, I ALSO WOULD LIKE THE COMMITTEE AT LEAST TO CONSIDER OUTSIDE PARTNERSHIPS. 
          UM, JUST THERE MAY BE DAYS WHEN A, UM, A FIRST RESPONDER DOESN'T FEEL LIKE THEY WANT TO, TO BRING IT INTERNAL TO THE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, I'M SURE SOME OF THEM FEAR FOR, UM, MAYBE FUTURE PROMOTIONS OR, OR THEIR JOBS. 
          AND SO, UM, EVEN HAVING AN OUTSIDE SOURCE I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL AT AT LEAST THAT OPTION. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE FOR THE COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER. 
          UM, EXCUSE ME, MA'AM. 
          YES, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT OURS. 
          ALL YES, PLEASE. 
          OH, UM, SO WE HAVE 58 PEER SUPPORTERS. 
          THE TRAINING IS DONE BY OUR STAFF PSYCHOLOGIST, AND WE ALSO HAVE A, UH, CRISIS HOTLINE, WHICH WE START IN 2021, WHICH ANYONE CAN CALL. 
          AND THAT'S STAFFED BY RETIRED SAN ANTONIO FIREFIGHTERS. 
          THE OTHER THING WITH OUR, UM, PEER SUPPORT PROGRAM, IF YOU GO INTO ANY FIRE STATION, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THOSE 58 PICTURES UP ON THE, ON A LAMINATED, UH, ON THE WALL. 
          SO YOU CAN PICK THE PERSON YOU WANT, BECAUSE THOSE 58 HAVE TO BE DIVERSE. 
          THEY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOMETHING IN COMMON WITH YOU A LOT OF TIMES MAYBE THEY HELP YOU MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT OUR PROGRAM LOOKS LIKE. 
          THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          CHIEF, I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP. 
          UM, SOMETIMES, UH, YOU KNOW, A WOMAN MAYBE WANTS TO SPEAK WITH ANOTHER WOMAN OR A MAN, UM, YOU KNOW, A PERSON OF COLOR, WHATEVER IT IS. 
          UM, CAN YOU TALK, YOU MENTIONED THE, THE APP CHIEF, UM, WAS IT CALLED? IT'S CALLED THE CORTICO APP, AND THAT'S FOR THE FIRSTERS, THE THE FIREFIGHTERS? YES, MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT? ABSOLUTELY. 
          UH, AND SO WE, UH, STARTED THE APP IN 2021, SO ON YOUR PHONE, UH, AND I THINK WE DID A DEMO WAY BACK WHEN, UM, TO, TO COUNSEL. 
          BUT IF YOU'RE HAVING PROBLEMS SLEEPING, IF YOU'RE HAVING FINANCIAL ISSUES, IF YOU ARE HAVING, UM, LIKE 40 PLUS TRACKS THAT YOU CAN GO DOWN AND TRY TO GET SOME RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO YOU, UM, AGAIN, IT IS, UH, ANONYMOUS. 
          IT CAN CONNECT YOU WITH, UH, MEDICAL FOLKS IN THE NETWORK. 
          UM, ALSO IF YOU HAVE SOME CANCER QUESTIONS THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO GO TO SEE A DOCTOR YET, JUST TO TRY TO GET SOME INFORMATION. 
          SO THAT APP, THAT APP IS REAL TIME CONVENIENT AND, UM, WE, WE WANNA SEE OUR FOLKS USE IT MORE. 
          SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I MENTIONED IS WE'RE GONNA BE DOING MORE VIDEOS, MORE AWARENESS TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE REALLY GREAT TECHNOLOGY AT THREE IN THE MORNING, UH, WHEN YOU HAVING THAT DAY. 
          SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HIGHLIGHT THAT TO ALL OF OUR MEMBERSHIP. 
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I DON'T, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE EXPANDED, UM, OVER TO OUR, UM, POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL. 
          AND DO YOU, DO YOU SEE THAT FIREFIGHTERS ARE USING IT? UM, YOU KNOW WHAT, SOMETIMES YOU DON'T HAVE A WAY OF KNOWING ACTUALLY HOW MANY USE IT, BECAUSE IT IS, IT'S ANONYMOUS, CONFIDENTIAL, MM-HMM. 
          , THAT'S TRUE. 
          BUT AGAIN, WE JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO, UM, UTILIZE IT. 
          AND, AND IT COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE. 
          YOU, YOU HAVE AN AGED PARENT, YOU'RE GOING THROUGH SOME THINGS THAT SOMEONE MAY BE ABLE TO HELP YOU, UH, DEAL WITH THAT BEFORE YOU GET ON A FIRE TRUCK OR AN AMBULANCE. 
          AND THAT'S JUST GONNA COMPILE THINGS. 
          AND THIS APP IS, UH, YOU MENTIONED ANONYMOUS, BUT IT'S ALSO OUTSIDE PROVIDERS? YES, MA'AM. 
          OKAY, THAT'S INTERESTING. 
          I'D LIKE TO ALSO ADD, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCREEN, THERE'S A GET HELP NOW BUTTON. 
          AND ON THE GI HELP NOW BUTTON, IF YOU CLICK ON THAT BUTTON, THE LIST THAT CHIEF MENTIONS THAT ARE THE 58 DIFFERENT, UH, PEER SUPPORTERS, IT'LL HAVE A PICTURE OF EVERY ONE OF THEM ON. 
          SO IF THERE'S SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ACTUALLY CLICK TO SEND A PHONE CALL OR A TEXT. 
          SO IF YOU'RE HAVING A HARD TIME, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO CLICK ON, GET HELP NOW AND SCROLL THROUGH SOMEBODY YOU MIGHT KNOW AND YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO SEND A TEXT MESSAGE AND THAT'LL SEND A MESSAGE TO THE INDIVIDUAL, LET 'EM KNOW THAT SOMEBODY NEEDS HELP, AND TO GIVE 'EM A CALL BACK. 
          AND SO THAT, THAT'S, UH, IMMEDIATE FEEDBACK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CHAIRWOMAN, CAN I PLEASE THE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS THE, THE SAME, NOT THE SAME APP, BUT CORTICO APP. 
          WE PARTNERED WITH THE 100 CLUB, AND WE HAVE THE VERY SAME CORTICO APP GET HELP NOW, FEATURED RESOURCES. 
          OH, SELF-ASSESSMENTS. 
          UH, WE HAVE OUR WELLNESS OFFICERS NAMES AND PHONE NUMBERS. 
          WE HAVE OUR PEER SUPPORT TEAM ON THE APP. 
          UM, FITNESS, NUTRITION, AND GUIDED MEDIATION, SLEEP, UM, ALL, ALL TYPES, VERY SIMILAR DEPARTMENT. 
          SO DEPARTMENT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ALREADY HAS ACCESS TO IT AND EVERY OFFICER HAS ACCESS TO IT. 
          DO YOU KNOW HOW WELL IT'S THE SAME, I GUESS ANSWER, RIGHT? YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OFFICERS ARE USING IT, RIGHT? IT IT'S ANONYMOUS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE DON'T KEEP TRACK. 
          AND AT EVERY SUBSTATION AT HEADQUARTERS, AT ALL OF OUR, UH, BUILDINGS, WE HAVE BULLETIN BOARDS THAT HAVE INFORMATION HOW TO ACCESS IT. 
          UM, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S DOING. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WELL, THANK YOU, UH, BOTH CHIEFS. 
          UM, I'M GONNA GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER QUESTIONS. 
          I JUST WANNA BRIEFLY ALSO, UH, MENTION THAT, UM, I AM GRATEFUL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT AND THAT Y'ALL ARE HERE TO, TO LISTEN TO, UM, SOME TOUGH QUESTIONS MAYBE, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DANNY DIAZ SUPPOSE MENTIONED ALREADY, HE'S CALLING THIS A CRISIS, AND I THINK THAT'S RIGHTLY SO. 
          I THINK THAT, UM, IT'S, IT'S REALLY TIME THAT WE ADDRESS IT FOR WHAT IT IS. 
          SO, UM, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO MEMBER QUESTIONS. 
          UH, WE'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN PERRY. 
          THANK YOU, MA'AM. 
          APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND, UH, SORRY FOR NOT BEING THERE. 
          I'VE GOT, UH, ANOTHER APPOINTMENT UP HERE ON THE NORTH SIDE AND COULDN'T MAKE IT DOWN THERE IN TIME, BUT ANYWAY, UM, IT, HOW CHIEF MCMANUS, HOW MANY SUICIDES HAVE WE HAD THIS YEAR? THIS YEAR WE'VE HAD, GIMME ONE SECOND HERE. 
          1, 2, 3. 
          WE'VE HAD FOUR THIS YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          I'VE, I'VE HEARD A REFERENCE OF SEVEN. 
          UH, WHAT IS A SEVEN? I'M SORRY, SAY AGAIN, SIR? UH, COUNCILMAN PERRY, THE SEVEN, UH, NUMBER GIVEN BY, BY THE CHAIR WOMAN IS OVER THE LAST 20 MONTHS. 
          AND THAT INCLUDES FIVE ACTIVE OFFICERS AND TWO OFFICERS WHO HAD RETIRED, CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND HOW, DO WE HAVE ANY METRICS THAT SHOW, HOW, IS THERE A TREND HERE? IS THAT UP OR DOWN FROM PREVIOUS YEARS? I, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT A, A, A TREND COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT I, I CAN TELL YOU FROM LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS BACK, GOING BACK TO 2008, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, I'M LOOKING AT 11. 
          UH, I DON'T BELIEVE ALL OF THEM WERE ACTIVE MEMBERS, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT 11, GOING BACK TO 2008. 
          OKAY. 
          SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S, UH, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG HERE, UM, TO HAVE THAT MANY IN, IN THE, THE LAST 20 MONTHS. 
          AND HOW, HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, CHIEF, CHIEF HOOD? HAVE, UH, HAS THERE BEEN ANY SUICIDES IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? UH, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT SUICIDES, I WANNA KNOCK WOOD, BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT HAD ONE IN YEARS TO MY KNOWLEDGE. 
          AND SO, UM, I'D HAVE TO GO WAY BACK TO EVEN THINK IT'S BEEN YEARS, AND I DON'T WANT TO JINX, BUT WE, WE, WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE OR BLESSED. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND CHIEF MCMANUS, HOW DO WE COMPARE TO OTHER CITIES? HAVE WE DONE ANY BENCHMARKING ON THAT? 
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NO, SIR. 
          I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS. 
          AND COUNCIL, I SUGGEST THAT WE DO DO THAT AND, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING ON PREVENTATIVE MEASURES. 
          UM, JUST, JUST LOOKING AT THE PROGRAMS, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT WHAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS DOING AND WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON DOING, UM, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A MORE IN-DEPTH PROGRAM THAT MAYBE, MAYBE WE NEED TO GET THE FIRE AND, UH, POLICE FOLKS TO SIT DOWN TOGETHER AND TAKE A LOOK AT EACH OTHER'S PROGRAMS AND SEE HOW WE CAN ENHANCE, UH, BETWEEN THE TWO AND, UH, UM, BRING IN SOME ADDITIONAL SERVICES. 
          HAVE WE, HAVE WE BROUGHT ANY OUTSIDE AGENCIES OR ANYTHING INTO THE, TO THE FIRE SIDE? I MEAN, THE POLICE SIDE TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR PROGRAMS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO BETTER, UH, TO OFFER OUR, OUR ACTIVE DUTY AND RETIRED FOLKS OUT THERE, CO COUNCILMAN. 
          I WANTED TO ADD BEFORE CHIEF MCMANUS, UH, PROVIDES A RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION. 
          UH, YESTERDAY THE CITY MANAGER SENT A MEMO TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO NOTIFY THEM THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WORKING WITH THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION HAVE PUT TOGETHER A COMMITTEE THAT IS GOING TO BE EVALUATING THE CURRENT PROGRAMS THAT WE PROVIDE TO POLICE OFFICERS, TO OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, AND ALSO TO THE CIVILIANS WHO SUPPORT THE FUNCTIONS WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL. 
          SO AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE'RE DOING AN EVALUATION OF THE PROGRAMS, WE ARE LOOKING AT BEST PRACTICES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, UM, INCLUDING OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE OUT THERE THAT WE CAN ENHANCE TO THE CURRENT SERVICES THAT, THAT WE ARE, UH, PROVIDING. 
          UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, LOOKING AT OTHER CITIES AND WHAT THEY HAVE EXPERIENCED IN SUICIDES, UH, DOING SOME PRELIMINARY READING, UH, NUMBERS ARE UP ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH AN ORGANIZATION, UH, THAT WE'RE HOPING WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE US THOSE, UM, THOSE NUMBERS TO, TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING ON ACROSS THE, THE UNITED STATES WHEN IT COMES TO POLICING CHIEF COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          I'VE SPOKEN TO OTHER CHIEFS, UH, AROUND THE COUNTRY, AND, UH, IN FACT, AS MARIA SAYS, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBERS ARE UP, THE TRENDING IS UP, AND I'M NOT SEEING OR HEARING OF ANY, UH, PARTICULAR PROGRAMS WITH THE CHIEFS THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO THAT, THAT, UH, UM, ARE, UH, CUTTING EDGE BEYOND WHAT WE HAVE. 
          UH, WE ARE GONNA HA AS MARIA MENTIONED, AND I MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT WE DO HAVE THAT COMMITTEE THAT WE FORMED AND COME, UH, EARLY NEXT YEAR, UH, WE WILL HAVE SOME IDEA OF, UH, WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADD SOME NEW, UH, UH, SOME NEW STRUCTURE TO OUR PROGRAMS. WELL, I, I GUESS I'M, I'M REALLY SHOCKED, UH, AT THE NUMBERS THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED ALREADY TO DATE, UH, THAT, UH, I GUESS, I GUESS I'M SAYING WHY HAVEN'T WE DONE SOMETHING BEFORE NOW? UM, THIS, YOU KNOW, ONE IS TOO MANY, BUT WHERE WE'RE SITTING AT AT SEVEN OVER THE LAST 20 MONTHS, UM, I GUESS I'M, I'M JUST GONNA SAY IT, I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE SOMETHING BEFORE NOW AND WHY WE HAVEN'T ALREADY HAD A PROGRAM IN PLACE OR ENHANCEMENTS IN PLACE TO OFFER OUR, OUR CURRENT EMPLOYEES. 
          AND, UH, I, I, I'M JUST SHOCKED AT THE NUMBER AND, UM, UH, WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY. 
          AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS ISN'T A GOOD PLAN FOR GOING FORWARD, BUT YOU KNOW, TO ME IT'S LATE TO NEED ALREADY FOR THOSE SEVEN OFFICERS THAT HAVE ALREADY COMMITTED SUICIDE. 
          SO I'M, I'M JUST, UM, SHOCKED AT WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHY, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THIS DIDN'T START EARLIER. 
          SO THAT, THAT'S ALL I'M GONNA SAY ABOUT THAT. 
          AND I, I, I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT, UM, BENCH OF RETIREES OUT THERE THAT, UH, COULD HELP OUT IN THIS. 
          I DIDN'T SEE RETIREES ON THAT LIST OF WHO, WHO Y'ALL ARE GONNA INCLUDE ON THIS COMMITTEE, BUT THEY'VE BEEN THERE, THEY'VE DONE THAT, AND I THINK THAT'S A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE THAT COULD HELP, UH, IN, IN FORMULATING, UH, A PATH FORWARD AS WELL. 
          SO I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE, UH, YOU REACH OUT TO THEM AND, AND GET SOME VOLUNTEERS FROM THE RETIREE COM COMMUNITY ALSO. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY PIECE. 
          THANK YOU, MA'AM. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN PERRY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE ALL, UH, COUNCILWOMAN VRAN? UH, THANK YOU 
          [00:40:01]
CHAIR. 
          UM, I'M GONNA, I, I DO HAVE INPUT REGARDING THE MENTAL HEALTH CALLS, BUT I WILL SAVE THAT AND START WITH THE, UH, PSYCHOLOGICAL SERVICES FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          UM, I'LL START WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CHIEF HOOD. 
          THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING CONSISTENTLY AND HAVING THE PLANS FOR YOUR, UM, YOUR FIREFIGHTERS GOING INTO THE HEALTH FACILITY AND SEEING ALL THE THINGS. 
          I CAN SEE HOW, UM, YOU WANNA TAKE CARE OF THE WHOLE OFFICER. 
          AND I DO HAVE IDEAS ABOUT THERAPY DOGS TOO. 
          I, I AM, I'M READY FOR MY DISTRICT TO BUILD A DOGHOUSE IN ALL THE DISTRICT THREE FIRE STATIONS FOR YOUR GUYS. 
          SO, UH, 'CAUSE I WANNA GONNA STOP YOU RIGHT THERE, THOUGH. 
          WE DON'T WANT DOGHOUSES AT EVERY STATION. 
          JUST, WE WANNA BE ABLE TO PROVIDE DOGS IF WE NEED THEM FOR TRAUMATIC EVENTS. 
          SO, ALRIGHT, BECAUSE I GOT A C S SITTING BACK HERE, SO I DON'T WANT THAT IDEA POPPED OUT. 
          YEAH, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I, I, I GOT SOME IDEAS, GOT SOME DOGS, UM, BUT, BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UM, HOWEVER, I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PD, AND I UNDERSTAND WHY WE PUT THEM TOGETHER, BUT I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SEPARATED THESE CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN FIRE AND POLICE. 
          UM, IN 2009, I BEGAN, UH, WORKING WITH THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT AS A CRISIS INTERVENTION SPECIALIST. 
          UH, QUICKLY I LEARNED THE STRESS THAT OFFICERS FACE, AND I ALSO LEARNED THE STIGMA THAT COMES WHEN THEY ARE STRUGGLING. 
          SO I NOTICED WITH MY BACKGROUND AND MY DEGREE AND, AND MY PASSION FOR MENTAL HEALTH, THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF UNHEALTHY WAYS THAT THEY WERE MANAGING WITH THEIR, THEIR STRESS. 
          YOU KNOW, UM, EATING, UH, DRINKING BAD RELATIONSHIPS OR, YOU KNOW, JUST, AND, AND I, I ALWAYS ASKED, WHAT IS THERE? AND THEY WERE LIKE, WELL, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE A PSYCHOLOGIST, THEY HAVE A PEER SUPPORT GROUP, BUT IT'S THAT STIGMA IF THEY NEED HELP AND MAYBE HOW DO YOU CHANGE THAT CULTURE? HOW, HOW DO YOU GET THEM HELP? UH, I THINK PART OF IT, WHICH I ALWAYS FELT WAS NORMALIZING THE CHECK-INS SO THAT IT'S NOT STRICTLY AFTER A CRISIS. 
          AND I REMEMBER BEING, UM, AT THE SUBSTATION WHEN THE CALL CAME AT IN WITH A MOM THAT TORE APART HER LITTLE GIRL. 
          AND, AND I THOUGHT ABOUT THOSE OFFICERS WHO HAD TO WALK INTO THAT, UM, AND WHO THEY WERE GONNA TALK TO AFTERWARDS. 
          AND I KNOW THAT THERE, THERE'S THAT OPPORTUNITY, BUT IF WE JUST NORMALIZE THE CHECK-INS AT THE FIVE YEAR MARK AFTER A CRISIS AT THE 10 YEAR MARK, WE CHECK IN AND SEE, UM, IF THEY ARE GOING THROUGH A RELATIONSHIP CRISIS, IF THEY KNOW THAT THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO POSSIBLY, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE COMMITTEE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT, TAKE A DAY OR TWO TO TALK TO A PSYCHOLOGIST ABOUT THIS, WHAT THAT'S GOING TO MEAN. 
          BECAUSE DIVORCE UP THERE IS ONE OF THE MOST TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCES OTHER THAN LOSING A LOVED ONE THAT PEOPLE CAN GO THROUGH. 
          AND WE ASK OUR POLICE OFFICERS TO JUST SHAKE, YOU KNOW, BRUSH IT OFF BECAUSE THEY SEE SOMETIMES THE WORST OF HUMANITY IN A SHIFT AND MAYBE TWICE IN A SHIFT. 
          SO I THINK WE, WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT NORMALIZING IT, UNDERSTANDING WHEN THEY GO, WHEN THEY SEE THE PSYCHOLOGIST, WHAT RESOURCES ARE OUT THERE WHEN THEY TALK TO THEIR PEER SUPPORT GROUP. 
          UM, SEVEN OFFICERS IN 20 MONTHS IS DIFFICULT, UH, TO GRASP, BUT IT IS A NATIONAL TREND, AND I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS HOW WE, WE TAKE CARE OF THEM. 
          AND WE ALSO NEED TO, IN THAT COMMITTEE, BRING IN THE FAMILIES BECAUSE THEY'RE SEEING THE CHANGE TOO. 
          WHEN I WAS ON THE CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM, IT WAS FRIENDS AND, AND THE REASON I ROLLED OFF IS THEY COULD SEE A DIFFERENCE. 
          THEY WERE LIKE, YOU'RE GETTING JADED, YOU'RE GETTING HARD. 
          AND THAT'S WHEN YOU KIND OF KNOW, HEY, IT'S, IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON. 
          AND THAT WAS ME JUST HANDLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASES, THESE OFFICERS, AND I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION HERE TOO, IS WHAT THESE OFFICERS SEE IN THE COURSE OF A DAY. 
          IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ALWAYS WHAT THE NEWS REPORTS IN JUST THOSE BIG CASES. 
          IT IS, IT IS SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, VIOLENCE AGAINST CHILDREN, VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN. 
          AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, WE ARE HELPING THEM ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. 
          SO I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT IS IN THE BIG BIGGER MENTAL HEALTH CALLS IS THAT WE, WE IDENTIFY FOR OUR OFFICERS AND FOR OUR, OUR RESIDENTS, AGENCIES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS AND AT WHAT 
          [00:45:01]
STAGE THEY'RE, THEY CAN COME AND HELP. 
          SO IF YOU KNOW YOU'RE HAVING, UH, MARITAL PROBLEMS OR RELATIONSHIP PROBLEMS, OR YOUR KID IS, IS EVEN A KID, YOUR CHILD GETTING DIAGNOSED WITH DYSLEXIA OR AUTISM, THAT CAN IMPACT A, A FAMILY. 
          AND WHERE CAN THEY GO TO GET HELP AND HOW DO WE IDENTIFY THAT AND WHAT THAT MIGHT MEAN IN TERMS OF STAGES SO THAT YOU DON'T GET TO AN INCIDENT WHERE YOU FEEL THIS CRISIS, UM, THAT THE OFFICERS DO. 
          SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE MORE NORMALIZATION OF THE CHECK-INS WHERE THEY TALK TO, UH, PSYCHOLOGICAL SERVICES AND, UM, AND REALLY, UH, UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT PEER SUPPORT IS, IS IS A NORMAL PROCESS THAT OFFICERS GO THROUGH. 
          YES, CHIEF, SO JUST, YOU BROUGHT IT UP AND I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON IT. 
          THERE IS A STIGMA, AT LEAST IN POLICING ATTACHED TO SEEKING HELP FOR, FOR ISSUES THAT YOU MAY BE HAVING, WHETHER THEY'RE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, WHETHER THEY'RE FAMILY ISSUES, WHETHER THEY'RE FINANCIAL ISSUES, THERE IS THAT STIGMA COMING FORWARD, UM, AND TALKING ABOUT IT. 
          UM, THE, THE FIRST CONCERN, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE, IS THEY'RE GONNA TAKE MY GUN AWAY. 
          THE SECOND CONCERN IS, WELL, YOU KNOW, IF, IF I REPORT THIS, THEY'RE GONNA TAKE MY GUN AWAY AND I'M GONNA LOSE MY ASSIGNMENT. 
          AND THIRDLY, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY COULD I LOSE MY ASSIGNMENT, THEY MIGHT FIRE ME IF I BRING THIS FORWARD. 
          SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A, A MAJOR, UH, RELUCTANCE TO REPORT, UH, IF YOU'RE HAVING THOSE ISSUES. 
          AND SOME OF THE RESEARCH I DID, UH, INTO THE MILITARY, THE, THE, THE, THE PROGRAMS THAT, UH, ORGANIZATIONS, UH, ARE, UH, RELY ON MOST TO PREVENT SUICIDES ARE, UM, PREVENTATIVE TYPE PROGRAMS WHERE IT'S INCUMBENT UPON THE, THE PERSON TO REPORT IF, IF THEY'RE NOT MANIFESTING OPENLY THAT THEY'RE HAVING AN ISSUE. 
          SO IF THEY'RE NOT REPORTING, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S NOT A LOT WE CAN DO TO PREVENT IT. 
          UH, I THINK WHAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IS, UH, WIDENING OUR, OUR REACH AND, AND, UH, I THINK, THINK SOMEONE MENTIONED IT EARLIER, WIDENING OUR REACH, MAKING MORE, MORE AVENUES AVAILABLE FOR OFFICERS TO REPORT AND MAKING THEM UNDERSTANDING BY, BY CONTINUALLY PUTTING THE MESSAGE OUT THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA LOSE YOUR JOB, YOU'RE NOT GONNA LOSE YOUR ASSIGNMENT IF YOU REPORT THESE THINGS. 
          I SPOKE WITH A RETIRED GENERAL, UH, FROM THE MILITARY, UM, I DON'T KNOW, A WEEK OR SO AGO, AND WE TALKED ABOUT SUICIDES IN THE MILITARY. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT SUICIDES IN, IN, UH, IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, UH, AND, AND OTHER, YOU KNOW, FIRST RESPONDERS. 
          AND WE BOTH, WE BOTH HAD THE SAME OBSERVATIONS THAT, UH, PREVENTION, UH, PREVENTION DEPENDS UPON KNOWING IT. 
          AND UNLESS WE KNOW IT, IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT TO PREVENT. 
          SO, UM, JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE AND ADD THAT IN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, COUNCILWOMAN GERRAN COUNCILWOMAN. 
          ANYBODY? I'LL GO AFTER JAYLEN, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN MKI RODRIGUEZ? OKAY, GO AHEAD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, THANK YOU, UH, FOR THE PRESENTATIONS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL START BY SAYING THAT THERE'S STILL VERY MUCH A STIGMA . 
          I THINK SOMETIMES BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT SO MUCH, IT FEELS LIKE OTHER PEOPLE ARE TALKING, AND I DON'T QUITE THINK THAT'S THE CASE. 
          I ALSO DON'T THINK IT'S THE CASE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE STIGMA IS GOING TO BE LIFTED EVEN ACROSS ALL OF OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS. 
          I THINK IT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN SOME DEPARTMENTS, UM, RELATIVELY SLOWER, AND YOU HAVE TWO OF THE LARGEST DEPARTMENTS. 
          UM, I AM CONCERNED, UM, OR I'M WONDERING HOW CAN WE COLLECT DATA OF PROGRAM USE? I KNOW YOU, YOU  PROBLEM, UM, BECAUSE , BUT THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME WAY, UM, ESPECIALLY WITH SUCH LARGE DEPARTMENTS THAT YOU CAN'T DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHAT OF, UH, YOUR EMPLOYEES ARE USING, UH, THE RESOURCE. 
          IS THAT, UM, CAN SOMEBODY LEGAL TEAM MAYBE LET US KNOW? COUNCILMAN, COUNCILMAN, THIS IS MARIA. 
          UH, WE HAD, UH, COUNCILMAN, THIS IS MANIA. 
          WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFICULTY, UM, UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU, WHAT YOUR QUESTION WAS BECAUSE YOU'RE VIRTUAL, BUT I BELIEVE YOUR QUESTION IS, CAN WE CAPTURE UTILIZATION OF THE RESOURCES THAT WE PROVIDE TO FIRST RESPONDERS? UM, SO I'M GONNA TURN IT BACK. 
          I, I DON'T THINK WE CAN, UM, TRACK PERSONNEL DATA, 
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BUT PERHAPS THE, THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT A PROGRAM IS UTILIZED, UH, THAT WE CAN DO THAT AND PROBABLY, UH, LIKE NUMBER OF UNIQUE, OKAY. 
          SO THAT WAY AT LEAST WE GET AN IDEA IF THERE'S 1,600 OR, OR YOU KNOW, 600 ARE USING THEM, THAT I, I WANNA BE ABLE TO KNOW THAT. 
          AND I THINK IF WE JUST GET, UH, THE NUMBER OF TIMES THE RESOURCE HAS BEEN USED, IT'S NOT QUITE THE SAME AS WHAT PERCENTAGE DEPARTMENT IS UTILIZING. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES. 
          I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THIS, UH, CONVERSATION IS TIMELY, I'M SURE ONE OF THE REASONS WHY ACCOUNT THE CHAIR, UM, WANTED TO HEAR THIS. 
          'CAUSE WE HAVE SEEN AN INCREASE IN OFFICER SUICIDES, UH, WHICH IS VERY, VERY CONCERNING. 
          UH, AND OFTEN SUICIDE IS NOT THE FIRST STEP, RIGHT? THEY JUMP STRAIGHT TO, AND SO I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S BEEN AN INCREASE IN SUBSTANCE USE BY PEOPLE IN EACH OF YOUR DEPARTMENTS, AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IF THAT'S DATA THAT WE COLLECT AS WELL OR HOW WE WOULD GO ABOUT DOING THAT. 
          MAYBE IN THE SUR IN ONE OF THE SURVEYS, COUNCIL MEMBER, WE DO RANDOM DRUG TESTING IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY KIND OF UPTICK IN, UM, OFFICERS TESTING POSITIVE FOR DRUGS FOR SURE. 
          I'LL REPHRASE THE QUESTION. 
          SO, UM, ALCOHOLISM WOULD A DRUG, YOU KNOW, A DRUG TEST WOULDN'T TELL IF SOMEBODY'S BEEN DRINKING A LOT. 
          IS IT  SEPARATE FROM THIS, UM, ON MENTAL WELLNESS? DO YOU ASK, YOU KNOW, HOW OFTEN DO YOU DRINK? HOW OFTEN DO YOU DO THIS? THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW. 
          SO, UM, COUNCILMAN TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION A LITTLE BIT. 
          WHEN, UH, OUR FOLKS GET THEIR ANNUAL PHYSICAL, THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT THEY'RE ASKING, UH, SUCH AS PROBABLY SOME OF THOSE THINGS OR BEHAVIORS, UM, THAT WAY THEY CAN, IF THOSE TRIGGERS ARE MET, THEY CAN BE REFERENCED TO ADDITIONAL HELP WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION. 
          SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE KNOW HAPPENS, UM, IS WHEN FIRST RESPONDERS ARE, UM, EXPOSED TO A SEVERE TRAUMATIC INCIDENT OR RESPONSE. 
          AND WE, WE'VE NOTICED THIS WITH, UH, TWO OF OUR LINE OF DUTY DEATHS OF FIREFIGHTERS OVER THE YEARS AND, UM, ACTUALLY WITH THE, UH, TRAILER INCIDENT A COUPLE MONTHS AGO THAT SOMETIMES, UM, OUR, OUR PERSONNEL, THEY ACT OUT. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHEN IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO GET THEM A LOT OF HELP RIGHT AFTER THAT INCIDENT. 
          AND DO DEBRIEFINGS DO THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE IF WE LOOK BACK, UM, YOU CAN PROBABLY SAY, YEAH, OUR DISCIPLINE PROBABLY WENT UP JUST A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF AN INCIDENT. 
          SO HOW DO WE CAPTURE, CAPTURE THOSE FIREFIGHTERS AND POLICE OFFICERS RIGHT AFTER AN INCIDENT TO LET THEM WORK THROUGH THEIR FEELINGS BEFORE THEY GO HOME AND POTENTIALLY ACT OUT? SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO QUITE OFTEN WITH CRITICAL INCIDENT DEBRIEFINGS AFTER, AFTER A CALL. 
          I GUESS I'M WONDERING, SO THE REASON I, I WAS GOING INTO THAT SERIES OF QUESTIONS, RIGHT? IS, YOU KNOW, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT OF POOR MENTAL HEALTH OUTCOMES AND THE PHYSICALLY TAXING NATURE OF THE JOB. 
          AND I FEEL LIKE FOLK ALSO DON'T TAKE THIS, THIS INTO ACCOUNT IS THAT, UM, YOU ENTER INTO, YOU SIGN UP, I I WANNA BE A FIREFIGHTER, I WANNA BE A POLICE OFFICER. 
          UM, AND YOU WANNA SOLVE, YOU WANNA SOLVE PROBLEMS IN THE COMMUNITY, AND THEN THE REALITY OF THE JOB IS THAT YOU SHOW UP AND EVERY DAY THERE'S MORE. 
          AND JUST LIKE COUNCILMAN VERAN MENTIONED EVERY DAY YOU'RE SEEING THE WORST AND WORST OF SOCIETY AND THE WORST, WORST PEOPLE WHO ARE DYING. 
          AND I CAN'T HELP BUT FEEL THAT THERE'S PROBABLY A SENSE OF HELPLESSNESS THAT SOMETIMES PLAGUES PEOPLE AND YOU KNOW, THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR INCREASED, YOU KNOW, UH, WITH OR INCREASED LIKELIHOOD OF ALCOHOLISM AND SUBSTANCE USE AND ANY CORRELATION BETWEEN THESE OUTCOMES AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. 
          AND SO I'M WONDERING, DO WE PROVIDE RESOURCE FOR FAMILY MEMBERS OF OUR OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS? DO WE COLLECT DATA TO TRACK HOW MANY FAMILIES OF OUR STAFF ARE, YOU KNOW, EXPERIENCING SAYING, CHANGE IT THEIR PART? I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S SOMETHING MAYBE IS BEST TO ANSWER THAT ONE COUNCILMAN? I I THINK YOUR QUESTION IS HOW DO WE ENGAGE THE FAMILIES OF FIRST RESPONDERS THAT PERHAPS ARE GOING THROUGH, UM, DIFFICULT SITUATION AND, UM, 
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THE, THE SERVICES PROVIDED BY OUR PSYCHIATRISTS ARE AVAILABLE TO THE FAMILIES AS WELL. 
          SO THAT IS ONE WAY THAT, THAT WE, UH, REACH OUT ON BOTH DEPARTMENTS. 
          WE HAVE A UNIT THAT ADDRESSES OR HELPS FAMILIES OF, UM, FIRST RESPONDERS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH A A DIFFICULT, CHALLENGING SITUATION. 
          UM, AS PART OF THE WORK THAT WE ARE GONNA BE DOING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THAT COMMITTEE IS GONNA BE REACHING OUT TO FAMILIES AS WELL TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK. 
          SO WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT ON, UM, UM, THE ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE'LL BE MAKING TO OUR CURRENT PROGRAMS. THANK YOU. 
          I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO, I REALLY DO THINK WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO HAVE, UM, DEEPER CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ALL OF THESE THINGS. 
          I'M WONDERING ALSO, UM, BEFORE VETERANS JOIN YOUR DEPARTMENT, THEY RECEIVE PROPER THERAPY OR CARE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW WHAT COUNCILMAN I, I, I WILL TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          I'VE BEEN, UH, IN THE FIRE SERVICE FOR 34 YEARS OR SO. 
          AND SO WHEN I CAME IN, IN PHOENIX, THE, THE PARAMEDICS, THE FIREFIGHTERS THAT I WORKED WITH, THE ONLY ONES THAT HAD EVER BEEN TO WAR WERE THESE OLDER VIETNAM VETERANS. 
          SO THE PEOPLE THAT I CAME IN WITH, NONE OF US HAD BEEN TO ANY WARS. 
          WE HIRE PEOPLE NOW WITH PREDISPOSED, UM, TRAUMA. 
          TRAUMA, THEY'VE BEEN SHOT, THEY'VE CRASHED IN A HELICOPTER. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT IS THE SIGN OF THE TIME THAT THERE'S BEEN WARS GOING ON. 
          AND WE HIRE THESE PEOPLE, THEY'RE AMAZING EMPLOYEES, BUT SOME PEOPLE DO COME WITH MORE TRAUMA THAN AN AVERAGE KID THAT'S GROWING UP IN A SMALL COMMUNITY. 
          SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE TO LOOK AT, UM, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT MANAGING THE, THE BASELINE OF ANY OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO CONSIDER. 
          I GUESS MY QUESTION THERE IS A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, SO, UH, I APPRECIATE THAT ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND I'M WONDERING, IS IT, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, THEY SHOW, THEY SHOW UP, THEY GO THROUGH TRAINING, THEY SEEM GOOD, SO THEY'RE GOOD OR DO THEY ACTUALLY, LIKE, ARE THERE PSYCH EVALUATIONS PRIOR TO ENTRY, MAYBE FOLLOWING MAJOR EVENTS OR INCIDENTS THERE? WELL, AND, AND I, CHIEF MCMAN IS GONNA JUMP IN THERE. 
          THERE ARE BEHAVIORAL ASSESSMENTS, JUST LIKE PHYSICAL ASSESSMENTS OR BACKGROUND BEFORE YOU CAN GET HIRED THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND, UH, BE SUCCESSFUL IN COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          IF I COULD CALL DR. 
          PRICE UP TO THE, UH, PODIUM. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          I'M JOHN PRICE FOR PSYCHOLOGICAL SERVICES. 
          CERTAINLY IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE, THE NATURE OF OUR ASSESSMENT PROGRAMMING, UH, PSYCHOLOGICAL SERVICES IS EITHER THE LAST STEP IN THE PROCESS OF HIRING OR THE SECOND TO LAST STEP, NOT OKAY. 
          AND THE REASON FOR THAT, IT'S EITHER, UH, MY OFFICE OR MEDICAL AND USUALLY WE'RE THE LAST BECAUSE UNLESS THERE'S A CONFLICT WITH MEDICAL, CAN'T GET IN IN TIME, THE REASON WE WANT TO BE AT THE END OF THE PROCESS THAT ALLOWS FOR ALL THE BACKGROUND MATERIAL TO BE GATHERED. 
          SO BY THE TIME I GET A FILE, THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION'S BEEN GATHERED ON THINGS LIKE WHERE THEY'VE WORKED, WHERE THEY WENT TO SCHOOL, WHERE THEY'RE IN THE MILITARY, HOW MANY TICKETS THEY'VE HAD IN THEIR LIFE, DID THEIR EMPLOYERS, ANY PROBLEMS THERE, ANY PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEMS. HISTORICALLY, ANYTHING THAT CAN BE GATHERED IS, IS GATHERED AHEAD OF TIME. 
          WE, AND I CAN COMPARE WHAT THEY TOLD THE BACKGROUND INVESTIGATOR VERSUS WHAT THEY'RE TELLING ME SO I CAN LOOK FOR CONSISTENCIES AND HOW THEY'RE PRESENTING INFORMATION. 
          THE TEXAS COMMISSIONER OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, UH, REQUIRES US TO DO CERTAIN STEPS IN OUR EVALUATION. 
          WE MUST, FOR EXAMPLE, DO A INTERVIEW WITH THE SUBJECT. 
          UH, WHEN AN APPLICANT'S COMING IN, I INSIST ON A FACE-TO-FACE INTERVIEW. 
          I'M NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING BY ZOOM ONLY BECAUSE I GET SO MUCH MORE INFORMATION FROM HOW THAT PERSON'S PRESENTING IN THE ROOM WITH ME. 
          DO THEY MAINTAIN EYE CONTACT? HOW, HOW ARE THEY SITTING? WHAT KIND OF GESTURING ARE THEY? WE, IN ADDITION TO THAT, TICKLE DOES REQUIRE YOU TO DO A REVIEW OF ANY RECORDS AND THEN WE'RE MANDATED TO DO AT LEAST TWO PERSONALITY MEASURES AS PART OF OUR ASSESSMENT. 
          ONE MUST LOOK AT PSYCHOPATHOLOGY ANY INDICATION OF SERIOUS PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEMS, AND THE SECOND TEST LOOKS AT SOMETHING POSITIVE FEATURES. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE DO A QUICK SCREENING OF INTELLECTUAL SKILLS USING A TEST CALLED THE SHIPLEY. 
          BECAUSE I GET PEOPLE WITH SUCH VARIED EDUCATION LEVELS, I WANT SOME REASON TO BELIEVE THAT WE CAN SEND THEM TO THE ACADEMY AND THEY HAVE A GOOD CHANCE TO HANDLE THE ACADEMICS THERE. 
          AND WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED A, ANOTHER, UH, 
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SHORT PERSONALITY MEASURE THAT'S CALLED, IT'S CALLED THE SENTENCE COMPLETION BECAUSE THAT ONE OFTEN GIVES US INFORMATION TO ASK FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS. 
          SO SOME OF THE EXAMPLE IN THE SENTENCE COMPLETION HAS QUESTIONS LIKE, WHAT'S THE WORST THING YOU'VE EVER DONE? OR WHAT'S THE BEST THING YOU'VE EVER DONE? OR, I GET ANGRY WHEN OR IF I'M CUT OFF ON THE FREEWAY. 
          AND THAT SOMETIMES ALLOWS US TO GET INFORMATION ON. 
          WE'LL EXPLAIN THAT FURTHER. 
          ELABORATE ON THAT. 
          DR. 
          UH, MY STAFF AND I HAVE WORKED OUT A SET OF, NOT SO MUCH SET QUESTIONS, BUT AREAS OF TOPICS THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE GET COVERED IN ANY INTERVIEW, AND THEN WHATEVER ADDITIONAL DATA WE NEED TO COVER. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, HAVE YOU REALLY THOUGHT THROUGH THE NATURE OF THIS WORK? OR I'LL TALK TO THEM ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS IS A PROFESSION THAT YOU HAVE A HIGHER RISK OF DEVELOPING POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER, THEN BEING AN ACCOUNTANT. 
          UH, CLASSICALLY WE TALK ABOUT P T S D AS BEING A LIFE-THREATENING EVENT WHERE YOU FEEL A LITTLE CONTROL OVER YOUR FUTURE AND HAVE RESIDUAL PROBLEMS AS A RESULT. 
          HOWEVER, AS YOU MANY OF YOU POINTED OUT THIS MORNING, SECONDARY TRAUMA IS ACTUALLY A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM FOR FIRST RESPONDERS. 
          HOW MANY FAMILY DISTURBANCES CAN YOU GO TO? CHILD ABUSE CASES, ACCIDENTS WITH DEAD BODIES BEFORE IT TAKES A TOLL? SO I'M ASKING THEM UPFRONT, WHAT ARE YOU DOING NOW FOR SELF-CARE? BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T BUILD SELF-CARE INTO YOUR SYSTEM, THEN YOU'RE GONNA END UP NOT JUST GETTING BURNED UP PERSONALLY, BUT THERE'S A POINT WHERE YOU DEVELOP COMPASSION FATIGUE. 
          AND THAT'S CONTRARY TO EVERYTHING WE NEED AN OFFICER TO DO. 
          I, WE MAKE SURE WE GO OVER HOW ARE YOU PLANNING FOR THE ACADEMY? WE'RE RUNNING INTO A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT VERY PHYSICALLY FIT. 
          AND I WANNA KNOW, HAVE THEY LISTENED TO US ALONG THE PATHWAY AND ARE ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING? 'CAUSE I NEED TO KNOW IF PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY WILLING TO LISTEN AND TAKE ACTION ON THEIR OWN. 
          BECAUSE MOST OF BEING A POLICE OFFICER IS ABOUT SELF INITIATING AND PROBLEM SOLVING. 
          WE GO THROUGH, IF YOU A CRITICAL INCIDENT, CAN YOU FIRE ON ANOTHER HUMAN BEING? IF YOU CONSIDERED THAT THIS IS COULD HAPPEN TO YOU. 
          SO WE HAVE SET AREAS THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE GET COVERED, PLUS WHATEVER ADDITIONAL DATA THE PERSON PRESENTS UNIQUE. 
          AND LOOKING AT THE TEST DATA SOMETIMES LEADS TO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. 
          UH, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, IF SOMEONE'S PRIOR MILITARY OR PRIOR LAW ENFORCEMENT, THERE'S A SCALE OF ONE OF MY TESTS THAT LOOKS AT A WILLINGNESS TO USE FORCE TO COM ACCOMPLISH A GOAL. 
          IF, IF YOU'VE BEEN IN LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR FIVE OR 10 YEARS, I EXPECT THERE TO BE A SLIGHT ELEVATION ON THAT SCALE BECAUSE YOU'VE HAD TO DO THAT. 
          IF YOU'RE JUST GOING FROM HIGH SCHOOL TO COLLEGE, AND NOW YOU'RE COMING IN AND YOU'RE ALREADY ELEVATED ON THAT SCALE, THEN I HAVE MORE CONCERN ABOUT THAT. 
          SO JUST AN ELEVATION ON A TEST ALONE IS NOT USEFUL IN, I WANT TO PUT IT IN CONTEXT. 
          JUST LIKE WHEN I WORKED IN THE MEDICAL FIELD. 
          IF I HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S OVER-FOCUSED ON MEDICAL PROBLEMS, WHERE THEY'VE HAD CHRONIC PAIN FOR 10 YEARS AND EVERY DOCTOR'S BEEN ASKING 'EM ALONG THE WAY HOW THEIR PAIN IS, I EXPECT THEM TO OVERFOCUS. 
          IF THEY HAVE NO EXISTING MEDICAL PROBLEMS AND THEY'RE OVER-FOCUSED, THEN I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS BEING A PERSONALITY QUALITY OF THE INDIVIDUAL. 
          SO, JUST TO DOUBLE CHECK, THIS IS, THIS IS CONDUCTED BEFOREHAND, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE THIS DONE FOLLOWING MAJOR EVENTS OR MAYBE AFTER A CERTAIN NUMBER OF YEARS? AND THAT'S MY LAST QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO WE HAVE A, EVERY TIME THERE'S AN OFFICER INVOLVED IN A SHOOTING, A MEMBER OF MY STAFF MEETS WITH THE OFFICER AS SOON AFTER THEY COMPLETE THEIR REPORT. 
          WE'RE A LITTLE, LIKE, WE'RE OUTTA STEP WITH MANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS. 
          AND, UH, AND THE REASON BEING, I'VE BEEN TOLD OVER AND OVER AGAIN, WELL, YOU GOTTA WAIT 24 OR 48 HOURS. 
          I THINK THAT'S JUST PEOPLE NOT WANTING TO GET UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND GO DOWN AND DEAL WITH THIS. 
          WHAT I FIND IS, IF YOU GO IN AND TALK TO AN OFFICER AFTER A SHOOTING ONE, YOU GET A CHANCE TO DEBRIEF THEM. 
          HOW ARE YOU DOING? SOMETIMES EVERYBODY ELSE IS SO WORRIED ABOUT GETTING THE REPORTS DONE AND ALL THE, EVERYTHING THAT MECHANICALLY HAS TO BE DONE. 
          WE WANT SOMEONE THERE JUST FOCUSED ON THEM. 
          LITTLE THINGS LIKE, HAVE YOU CONTACTED YOUR FAMILY YET? IT'S ONE THING FOR THE SPOUSE TO BE TOLD. 
          IF YOUR HUSBAND'S OKAY, IT'S SOMETHING ELSE FOR THAT PERSON TO CALL AND ACTUALLY HEAR THEIR VOICE. 
          SO I MAKE SURE WE DO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. 
          I ALSO WANT TO EXPLAIN TO THEM LIKELY THINGS YOU'RE LIKELY TO EXPERIENCE AFTERWARDS. 
          IF YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE LIKELY TO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH SLEEP FOR SEVERAL DAYS, OR YOU MAY HAVE RUMINATING THOUGHTS ABOUT THE EVENT AND THOSE THINGS OCCUR, THEN YOU DON'T MISINTERPRET THEM THAT I HAVE SOMETHING TERRIBLY WRONG WITH ME. 
          YOU GO, THIS DOES, I DON'T LIKE IT, I'M UNCOMFORTABLE. 
          BUT THIS IS TO BE ANTICIPATED. 
          AND THEN IF THE PEER SUPPORT OFFICER COMES BACK AND REPORTS VERY SIMILAR THINGS, SO WE'RE CONSISTENT IN OUR MESSAGING, THAT GOES A LONG WAY TOWARDS DIFFUSING SOME OF THIS BEFORE AN OFFICER CAN RETURN TO FULL DUTY STATUS, THEY MUST GO THROUGH MY OFFICE AND BE SCREENED AGAIN BEFORE THEY'RE ALLOWED TO RETURN. 
          AND WE HAVE A RETURN TO DUTY PROGRAM. 
          IF YOU WANT TO GO INTO THAT, I CAN GO AT A LATER TIME. 
          THANK 
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YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN MCCUE RODRIGUEZ. 
          UM, IF, IF, UH, IF Y'ALL WILL, DON'T MIND, UM, COUNCILMAN PERRY HAS TO LEAVE. 
          SO I'M GONNA ASK, UH, HE HAS ONE QUESTION FOR, UH, DR. 
          PRICE, I BELIEVE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT INFORMATION. 
          UM, UH, DID HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU. 
          UH, WERE THE, THE SEVEN THAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD OVER THE LAST 20 MONTHS, WERE THEY IN, UM, CONSULTATION WITH YOU? OR HAD YOU SEEN ANY OF THESE SEVEN? UM, COUNCILMAN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. 
          I, I'M SORRY. 
          I I DON'T BELIEVE WE CAN BECAUSE OF HIPA. 
          I BECAUSE OF HIPAA. 
          ANSWER THAT, THAT, UM, OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          I, I, I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND, UH, UM, HOW ELSE CAN I REPHRASE THAT? UH, ARE, ARE YOU, UH, IS THIS A PROACTIVE OR ARE, ARE, ARE, ARE FOLKS REQUIRED TO COME IN TO SEE YOU DURING THE YEAR? DO, DOES EVERYBODY RUN THROUGH YOUR OFFICE OR IS IT ONLY, UH, BASED ON THEM WANTING TO COME INTO YOUR OFFICE? VOLUNTEER? WE, WE, WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS, UH, PEOPLE VOLUNTARILY CALLING MY OFFICE AND SETTING UP APPOINTMENTS. 
          AND WE'VE SEEN AN UPTICK IF I PRE AND POST COVID, UH, FROM ABOUT 12 TO 14 NEW REFERRALS A MONTH TO 18 TO 20. 
          BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE OFFICER CONCERN PROGRAM WHERE OFFICER MAY BE STARTING TO HAVE PROBLEMS AND THEY'LL, OFFICER CONCERN BOARD MAY MEET AND DECIDE THAT A REFERRAL TO PSYCHOLOGICAL SERVICES MAKES SENSE. 
          THERE'S A RETURN TO MA'AM. 
          THERE'S NO PROGRAM OF, OKAY, THIS IS YOUR TIME. 
          EVERYBODY RUNS THROUGH YOUR OFFICE, UH, FOR A WELLNESS CHECK OR WHATEVER. 
          THAT IS NOT REQUIRED. 
          UM, SOMETHING YOU SHOULD REQUIRE. 
          I WOULD, AS WE LOOK FIRST AT HOW CAN WE MAKE OUR, OUR FIRST LINE SUPERVISORS BETTER TO IDENTIFYING PEOPLE WHOSE IS CHANGING? THEY'RE MY, THEY'RE MY, I HEAR YOU. 
          WHAT YOU'RE, I THANK YOU. 
          I HEAR YOU WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT SOMETHING'S NOT WORKING. 
          WE NEED SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 
          AND I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK OUTSIDE AND BRING SOMEONE ELSE IN, UH, TO HELP, UH, STRUCTURE A PROGRAM THAT IS PROACTIVE VERSUS REACTIVE OR VOLUNTARY. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S GONNA BE MY COMMENTS ON THIS. 
          AGAIN, I'M SHOCKED ON THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE TODAY THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE SOMETHING BEFORE NOW. 
          SO, UH, UM, THAT'S ALL MY COMMENTS, MA'AM. 
          I'M, I'M GONNA HAVE TO, UH, SIGN OFF FOR NOW, BUT, UH, THIS IS A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD BE INTO RIGHT NOW. 
          WHAT CAN WE DO BETTER, UH, TO STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING? THAT'S ALL MY COMMENTS. 
          THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH. 
          Y'ALL HAVE A GREAT DAY. 
          SEND THE BALL. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR. 
          UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE AND FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, UH, TODAY. 
          AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO THANK OUR CHAIR, UM, GA HDA, AS WELL AS THE SAPO PRESIDENT DANNY DIAZ, FOR BRINGING THIS ISSUE TO LIGHT. 
          I WAS NOT AWARE OF IT. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING IT SO SERIOUSLY AND AGENDA IT SO QUICKLY. 
          UM, A COUPLE OF, UH, OF QUESTIONS I'LL, I'LL CONTINUE WITH, UH, WHAT COUNCILMAN PERRY WAS SAYING. 
          AND I BELIEVE, UH, COUNCILMAN VRAN MENTIONED THIS ALSO REGARDING A TYPE OF REGULAR, UH, CHECK-IN. 
          AND I KNOW YOU GAVE US YOUR OPINION ABOUT WHE WHETHER OR NOT THAT SHOULD BE, UH, REQUIRED. 
          AND I, I THINK YOU HAVE SOME OTHER SUGGESTIONS WHICH ARE WORTHY OF EXPLORATION AS WELL. 
          UM, SO LET ME BE CLEAR. 
          THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOES HAVE AN ANNUAL BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SCREENING. 
          DID I SEE THAT IN YOUR SLIDE? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          IT'S IN CONJUNCTION WITH THEIR ANNUAL PHYSICAL. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND WE DO NOT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES NOT HAVE THAT. 
          WE DO NOT, WE DON'T HAVE ANNUAL PHYSICALS, MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, COULD THIS BODY CONSIDER SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES? I WONDER IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMITTEE MIGHT NOT CONSIDER. 
          YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA FOR AS FAR AS THE WORK THAT WE ARE GONNA BE DOING WITH THE COMMITTEE, WE CAN, UM, EVALUATE THAT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THIS IS NOT, AND THEN BRING IT BACK HERE. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT SUGGESTION IS MADE AT THIS COMMITTEE. 
          UM, IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN MADE WITH THE SAME MEMBERS, BUT IT'S, IT'S BEEN SEVERAL YEARS. 
          UM, AND I, UM, SO I, I THINK IT'S ABOUT TIME WE, WE CONSIDER IT. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          UM, CHIEF, I THINK YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ABOUT THE STIGMA, UH, AMONG POLICE OFFICERS, ESPECIALLY AMONG INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE INTENDED TO HELP THOSE IN NEED. 
          IT MUST BE VERY HARD TO ASK FOR HELP YOURSELF. 
          UM, IT'S A, IT'S 
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A STIGMA, UH, COMMUNITY-WIDE, SO MUCH MORE IN, I IMAGINE IN THAT SETTING AND, AND SUICIDE IS MUCH MORE COMMON AMONG MEN THAN WOMEN. 
          SO I, I JUST, UH, I'M SURE IT'S A LOT MORE DIFFICULT IN, IN THAT HIGHLY MALE EN ENVIRONMENT. 
          UM, SO I THINK WHATEVER, UH, REDUCES THOSE BARRIERS, I'M REALLY GLAD TO SEE THAT SOME OF THEM ARE REACHING OUT IN, IN ON THEIR OWN. 
          UM, FOR ASSISTANCE. 
          I THINK IT'S THOSE WHO DON'T REACH OUT, UM, THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO WORRY ABOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND THINK ABOUT HOW WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKE THAT HAPPEN. 
          WHETHER IT'S THROUGH AN ANNUAL, WHETHER IT'S SOMEBODY ELSE RECOGNIZING THE SIGNS OR WHETHER IT'S AN INCENTIVE THAT GETS THEM TO DO THAT VOLUNTARILY. 
          UM, I ALSO WANTED TO ASK ABOUT, UM, I GUESS THE, THE CHAPLAIN PROGRAM. 
          UM, YOU HAVE, DID YOU SAY EIGHT OR NINE? YES, MA'AM. 
          WE HAVE EIGHT CHAPLAINS ON OUR PROGRAM. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND THREE FULL-TIME PSYCHOLOGISTS? YES, MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, DO YOU KNOW WHICH ONES ARE USED MORE CHAPLAINS OR PSYCHOLOGISTS OR? I, I DON'T. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          AND IN TERMS OF CHAPLAINS AND THE FAITH, THEY'RE ALL, UM, THEY'RE ALL CHRISTIAN, YES. 
          AND OF MIXED FAITH. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND IF I COULD ADD COUNCIL MEMBER, THERE'S A, A CHAPLAIN PRETTY MUCH FOR EVERY SUBSTATION, AND THEY'RE QUITE OFTEN AT ROLL CALLS AND THEY MAKE THEMSELVES AVAILABLE, UH, PRETTY MUCH ON A DAILY BASIS. 
          BUT TO YOUR QUESTION, I, WE DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN PEOPLE GO TO THEM. 
          OFFICERS GO TO THEM INDIVIDUALLY FOR ASSISTANCE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, AND, UH, I, THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT, UM, UNWELCOME FEED. 
          WELL, I WON'T SAY THAT. 
          I'LL JUST SAY IT. 
          UM, SO, UH, THE PSYCHOLOGIST WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT, UM, UH, ONE OF THE PRACTICES THAT OCCURS AFTER AN INCIDENT, SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T OCCUR. 
          RIGHT. 
           AND I, OKAY, THANKS. 
          UM, WHEN I HEAR THE, THE DOCTOR SAY IT, UM, ACTUALLY, IT'S, UH, THAT ONE OVER THERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IT, IT DOES SEEM CONCERNING THAT IF, UH, SOMEBODY HAS GONE THROUGH, ONE OF YOUR OFFICERS HAS GONE THROUGH A TRAUMATIC INCIDENT, RIGHT? LIKE A, A SHOOTING AND, UM, IS NOT ABLE TO AVAIL THEMSELVES OF PSYCHOLOGICAL HELP IN THE IMMEDIATE, UH, AFTERMATH OF THAT, THAT, THAT MAY, SORRY, , WHAT A MESS. 
          UH, AND, AND IS NOT ABLE TO AVAIL THEMSELVES OF SOME SORT OF COUNSELING IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT. 
          DOES THAT MAKE THAT OFFICER MORE LIKELY TO SUFFER, UH, P T S D AFTERWARD, OR TO HAVE WORSE REPERCUSSIONS? SO I WOULD WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE THE OFFICERS THE SUPPORT THEY NEED, UM, AT THE MOST CRITICAL TIMES THAT THEY NEED. 
          IT. 
          IS, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN EXPLORE AND, AND JUST TO FOLLOW UP, WHEN AN OFFICER IS INVOLVED IN A SHOOTING, UH, THEY'RE TYPICALLY GIVEN, UM, THREE DAYS OFF, UM, ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE. 
          UH, THEY SPEAK TO THE PSYCHOLOGIST, UH, IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE SHOOTING. 
          SO THAT IS, THAT IS DONE RIGHT NOW. 
          I'M SORRY, DID I MISUNDERSTAND YOU? COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHAT YOU, UM, I'M SORRY, DR. 
          PRICE. 
          OKAY. 
          I, I MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU SAID. 
          WHEN THERE'S AN OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING, WE, SOMEONE FROM MY STAFF IS ALWAYS ON CALL. 
          AND SO ONCE THEY'VE COMPLETED THEIR REPORT, WE'RE ALREADY DOWN IN HOMICIDE AND WE DO AN IMMEDIATE DEBRIEF WITH THEM, THAT GIVES US THAT CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT ARE THE COMMON THINGS THAT YOU'RE LIKELY TO EXPERIENCE. 
          HERE'S MY CARD HERE, AND LET THEM KNOW, EVEN IF YOU, YOU'RE GONNA BE COMING THROUGH MY OFFICE BEFORE YOU RETURN TO FULL DUTY STATUS, THIS A STANDARD PROCEDURE. 
          WE DID THAT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A, A WAY OF KEEPING UP WITH HOW YOU'RE DOING. 
          SOMEONE FROM PEER SUPPORT WILL BE CONTACTING YOU PROBABLY IN THE NEXT DAY. 
          SO THAT, UH, THE, BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE SOMEBODY, IN MY OPINION, DOWN THERE WHO'S ONLY PURPOSE IS WHAT'S THE WELLNESS OF THE OFFICER. 
          AND SO IF WE WAIT 24, 48 HOURS, I THINK THAT'S TOO LONG. 
          AND THAT, THAT'S WHERE I DISAGREE WITH MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS. 
          I THINK IT'S PRUDENT THAT WE BE THERE. 
          AND IF, IF WE NEED TO, WE'LL, WE'LL FOLLOW UP FOR THE PHONE CALL. 
          IF WE DON'T, IF WE DON'T, IF THEY DON'T COME IN, LET'S SAY FOR A WEEK OR TWO, WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH A PHONE CALL. 
          HOW YOU DOING? YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON? SO THAT, THAT'S STANDARD PRACTICE FOR US. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I MISUNDERSTOOD. 
          UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR. 
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THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL. 
          COUNCILWOMAN VIEGA. 
          YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO CHIME IN AGAIN ABOUT, UM, WHAT THE CHIEF MENTIONED IN TERM OF, IN TERMS OF PREVENTATIVE AND HOW, UH, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF FOCUS ON THAT AND IF WE COULD, UH, KNOW WHO'S ON THE COMMITTEE AND THEN TRY AND GET THE COMMITTEE TO KIND OF EXPAND BEYOND JUST THE CRISIS. 
          BUT I LIKED COUNCILMAN, UH, SANDOVAL'S FOR THAT PHYSICAL, BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT, IT MANIFESTS IN, YOU KNOW, LACK OF SLEEP, DI DIGESTIVE ISSUES, UM, MIGRAINE HEADACHES. 
          AND IF WE, IF WE KNOW THAT THE OFFICERS MAY BE, UH, THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE CARRYING THEIR STRESS AND STUFF, THAT WE CAN BE MORE PREVENTATIVE IN THAT ASPECT FOR THAT. 
          AND I, I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT WE KNOW SUICIDE IS ON THE RISE, BUT I THINK IF WE START WITH OUR FIRST RESPONDERS ARE POLICE, AND OUR, UM, FIRE CHIEF, SIMILAR TO WHAT COUNCILMAN MCKEE RODRIGUEZ SAID, IS THAT WE CAN TAKE THIS CITYWIDE TO THE REST OF OUR DEPARTMENTS BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER, UM, EMPLOYEES THAT ARE THERE DAY IN AND DAY OUT IN, IN THE MIDST OF THE HEAT AND MAYBE GOING THROUGH THE SAME CRISIS AND, AND HOW WE CAN HELP THEM AND, UH, KIND OF MODEL FOR THEM WITH OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. 
          BECAUSE AS MENTIONED BEFORE, THEY ARE OUR LARGEST DEPARTMENTS. 
          AND COUNCILMAN, JUST VERY QUICKLY, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY MANAGER TALKED ABOUT DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS WAS THAT WE WERE GONNA BE LOOKING AT WELLNESS FOR, UH, POLICE OFFICERS, BUT ALSO SOME OF THE LARGEST OPERATING DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING SOLID WASTE, PUBLIC WORKS, UH, AND PARKS AND RECREATION. 
          I THINK IT'S WORTH MENTIONING TOO THAT, UM, WE'RE ALSO, WE TALK ABOUT FIRST RESPONDERS, WE'RE ALL TALKING, ALSO TALKING ABOUT, UH, CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES, RIGHT. 
          IN, IN OUR, BOTH OUR FIRE AND POLICE, BECAUSE THEY'RE DEALING WITH YES. 
          A LOT OF THE SAME DIFFICULT SITUATIONS. 
          DISPATCH ALL OF THAT. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          UM, THANK YOU COUNCIL GERRAN, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. 
          I HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS. 
          UM, ONE OF THEM IS, UH, HOW, HOW ACCURATE ARE THE STATISTICS ON OUR, UM, ON THE NUMBER OF SUICIDES IS HOW ARE WE, UM, GETTING THAT INFORMATION? I MEAN, IS IT, IS IT BASED ON A, ON A, A POLICE REPORT ON THE, UH, WHERE ARE WE GETTING THAT CORONER'S REPORT REPORT? WE, WE, WE GET THAT FROM THE PENSION OFFICE, MADAM CHAIR. 
          OKAY. 
          THE PENSION OFFICE. 
          'CAUSE THERE YEAH. 
          AND THERE'S FINANCIAL ARRANGEMENTS AND WHATNOT THAT OKAY. 
          NEED TO BE MADE ONCE THAT HAPPENS. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE WE GET THE INFORMATION. 
          SO IS THERE, THIS COULD BE A LONGER DISCUSSION, BUT IS THERE A POTENTIAL FOR A GAP THERE? I MEAN, MAYBE THEY'RE NOT, ARE, HOW ARE THEY GETTING THAT, THOSE NUMBERS? HOW'S A PENSION OFFICE GETTING THOSE NUMBERS? THE, THE FINANCIAL ARRANGEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE FINALIZED WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, UH, HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PENSION OFFICE. 
          SO, SO, NO, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S A GAP. 
          OKAY. 
          I, I THINK I, OKAY. 
          I'D LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL GO OFF OFFLINE ON THAT, BUT, UM, I, I, I WONDER BECAUSE THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S DIFFICULT TO TELL IF THERE HAS BEEN A, A SUICIDE, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S A INTENTIONAL CAR ACCIDENT OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT HOW WE CAN MAKE THOSE NUMBERS AS ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE. 
          UM, BUT, UH, I ALSO WANNA MENTION, UM, I, I HAD THE SAME, UH, THOUGHT ABOUT THE APP. 
          IF THERE'S A WAY TO JUST GET THE RAW DATA, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. 
          NOT NO IDENTIFYING FACTORS, JUST KIND OF A, A RAW NUMBER. 
          UH, JUST SO WE KNOW FOR BOTH DEPARTMENTS, HOW, HOW WELL IT'S BEING USED. 
          UM, AND I, I, I AM LEARNING ABOUT THAT APP HERE TODAY, SO I'M, I'M GRATEFUL, UH, THAT WE HAVE THAT. 
          BUT ARE Y'ALL TELLING, UH, YOUR FIRST RESPONDERS ABOUT IT, LIKE AT ROLL CALL? IS IT, UM, VIDEOS, IS IT IN TRAINING? UM, HOW DO THEY LEARN ABOUT IT? SO OUR APP WAS PUSHED OUT. 
          UH, WE HAVE POSTERS. 
          WE HAVE OUR WELLNESS OFFICERS, OUR PEER SUPPORT, UH, MAKING ROLL CALLS AND THAT SORT OF THING. 
          UM, LETTING OUR DEPARTMENT KNOW THAT THE APP IS AVAILABLE, EXPLAINING THE APP, UH, HAVING EVERYBODY DOWNLOADED ON THEIR PHONES WHILE THEY'RE AT ROLL CALLS. 
          UH, MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY, UH, IS AWARE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND, AND I'M GONNA LEAVE WITH JUST THIS, UM, DR. 
          PRICE. 
          YOU MENTIONED THE PROCEDURE FOR AFTER THERE'S A SHOOTING, AND, UM, I'M SURE IT'S ALL BEEN STUDIED AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE CAN BE ENHANCED. 
          BUT I, I ALSO RECOMMEND THAT WE TALK ABOUT MORE THAN JUST A POLICE, UH, AN OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING OUR OFFICERS AND OUR FIREFIGHTERS EVERY DAY. 
          SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, VICTIMS OF CHILD ABUSE, VICTIMS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT, AND ALL OF THOSE CAN BE TRAUMATIZING AS WELL. 
          IT DOESN'T JUST HAVE TO INVOLVE, UM, THE FIRING OF A GUN OR, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY BEING INJURED BY THEIR OWN HAND. 
          I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY THERE, AND THAT MAY BE SOME OF THE GAPS THAT WE CAN FILL, UM, 
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TO HELP OUR OFFICERS DEAL WITH A TRAUMATIZING EVENT OUTSIDE OF, UH, A POLICE SHOOTING. 
          AND OUR, OUR FIREFIGHTERS AT THE SAME TIME, THEY SEE, THEY GO INTO HOMES EVERY DAY AND, UM, YOU KNOW, GOD KNOWS WHAT, WHAT YOU GUYS SEE EVERY DAY, RIGHT. 
          SO, ANYWAY, I JUST, I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH THAT THOUGHT. 
          I THINK THIS IS, I CARE IF I MAY JUMP IN REAL QUICK, PLEASE. 
          UM, FOR, FOR OUR MEMBERS, WE COULD GO RIGHT NOW AND SEE A, UM, HORRIFIC AUTO AUTOMOBILE ACCIDENT WHERE THERE'S BEEN A LOSS OF LIFE OF, OF A COUPLE KIDS. 
          ALL OF OUR PERSONNEL HAVE KIDS. 
          THE MAJORITY, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THAT UNIT OR THOSE UNITS, AND WE'RE GONNA PUT THEM OUTTA SERVICE, AND WE'RE GONNA TEND TO THEM RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE GONNA SEND THEM HOME IF THEY NEED TO GO HOME. 
          SO WE, UM, WE SEE A LOT OF BAD STUFF. 
          SO WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO IT RIGHT THEN AND RIGHT THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE FOLKS ARE OKAY. 
          AND MAYBE WE DON'T WANT THEM CLIMBING BACK ON A FIRETRUCK OR GETTING IN AN AMBULANCE BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY'VE SEEN NOW AND THE POTENTIAL OF WHAT THEY MAY SEE SIX HOURS LATER. 
          WE DON'T WANNA DO THAT TO THEM. 
          SO WE HAVE PROGRAMS IN PLACE WHERE AUTOMATICALLY WE'RE GOING TO TAKE YOU OUTTA SERVICE AND TEND TO YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I, I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, CHAIR PROACTIVITY. 
          I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. 
          I JUST WANTED TO LEAVE A A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS WITH, WITH ALL OF YOU IN REGARDS TO, TO MANY OF THE, UM, SUGGESTIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP TODAY. 
          UH, THE CHIEF'S COMMITTEE ON WELLNESS HA HAS MET, AND, AND MANY OF THESE THINGS WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT, UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, CHANGING POLICY, UM, TO WHERE THERE ARE TRIGGER CALLS, CERTAIN CALLS THAT MANDATE, UM, PSYCHOLOGICAL SERVICES. 
          UM, THE TRAILER INCIDENT WOULD BE ONE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA DEFINE WHAT THOSE CALLS MIGHT BE IF WE HEAD IN THAT DIRECTION. 
          YOU KNOW, UM, A SHOOTING WHERE THERE'S MULTIPLE VICTIMS, YOU, WE'D HAVE TO DEFINE WHAT THAT CRITICAL INCIDENT, YOU KNOW, CALLS INVOLVING CHILDREN, THAT SORT OF THING. 
          SO, SO WE'RE LOOKING IN THAT DIRECTION THAT WOULD MANDATE OFFICERS HAVE TO SEE PSYCHOLOGICAL SERVICES. 
          SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS A COMMITTEE'S LOOKING AT. 
          ANOTHER THING THAT, THAT, THAT IS AVAILABLE TO US WOULD HAVE TO DO SOME MORE RESEARCH. 
          OUR CAD SYSTEM, UM, EVERYBODY'S FAMILIAR WITH CAD. 
          UH, THERE'S A, THERE, THERE'S A WAY FOR US, FOR OUR DISPATCHERS. 
          ONCE, ONCE A CALL HAS BEEN DISPATCHED, IT'S GIVING A A, IT'S GIVEN, THE CALL IS GIVEN A PRIORITY NUMBER, AND THAT PRIORITY NUMBER IS A CRITICAL INCIDENT NUMBER. 
          AND LET'S SAY FIVE. 
          AND, AND THIS, THIS IS NOT THE WAY IT WORKS, BUT I'M JUST EXPLAINING IT. 
          LET'S SAY FIVE IS THE HIGHEST NUMBER. 
          A CRITICAL INCIDENT WOULD BE A FIVE. 
          SO LET'S SAY TWO OFFICERS RESPONDED TO THIS HIGH PRIORITY NUMBER, THE NEXT CALL ASSIGNED TO THEM THROUGH THE CAD NUMBER WOULD BE A LOW PRIORITY NUMBER. 
          SO THEY'RE NOT CONSTANTLY RECEIVING THOSE HIGH CRITICAL CALLS, ONE RIGHT AFTER THE NUMBER, OR I'M SORRY, ONE RIGHT AFTER THE NEXT. 
          THEY MIGHT RECEIVE, YOU KNOW, A VERY HIGH, UH, CRITICAL INCIDENT. 
          AND THEN THE, THE, THE CAD WOULD, WOULD ASSIGN THEM AUTOMATICALLY TO, YOU KNOW, KNOW A CAT AND A TREE, KIND OF, THAT'S KIND OF A COMMON CALL FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT ANYWAY, SO THAT, SO THAT'S SOMETHING IN THE CAD SYSTEM THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS WELL, WHICH WOULD, WOULD ALLEVIATE THE OFFICERS FROM JUST BEING INUNDATED WITH CRISIS CALL ONE AFTER THE OTHER, ONE AFTER. 
          SO THE COMMITTEE IS LOOKING AT ALL OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND ALSO BEST PRACTICES ACROSS, ACROSS THE COUNTRY AS WELL. 
          SO, SO WE'RE TAKING ALL OF THIS IN, UH, WITHOUT A DOUBT. 
          GOOD. 
          I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. 
          AND I, I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, THE BOTH PRESENTATIONS, YOU'VE TALKED TO ME, TO ALL OF US HERE TODAY ABOUT WHAT YOU ALREADY ARE DOING TO MAKE SURE TO BUILD HEALTH, UH, MENTAL HEALTH CARE INTO THE SYSTEM, UH, FOR OUR, OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND OUR POLICE OFFICERS. 
          UM, I, I MAINTAIN THAT IT'S TIME FOR, UH, IT'S TIME TO ELEVATE, IT'S TIME TO ENHANCE, IT'S TIME TO, UM, SHIFT THIS LAST COUPLE YEARS AS WE ALL, AS WE, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, HAVE BEEN VERY DIFFICULT. 
          AND IT'S TIME FOR US TO, TO TAKE ANOTHER STEP FORWARD TO ADJUST TO WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW AROUND US. 
          AND SO I APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOU, ALL OF YOU REALLY, AND THE COMMITTEE BEING OPEN TO THIS. 
          UM, AND, UH, AND I, IT'S THE BEGINNING OF A CONVERSATION, UM, AND I, I WILL ASK EVERYBODY REALLY IN THIS ROOM AND ANYBODY WATCHING, UM, TO TALK ABOUT IT, UM, TO, TO, TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING, UH, AROUND YOU. 
          I THINK ONE OF THE SLIDES IN THE FIRE PRESENTATION WAS IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TOO. 
          NOT JUST THE PERSON THAT'S EXPERIENCING THE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE, BUT, UM, PEOPLE AROUND THEM. 
          WE ALL WORK SO CLOSELY TOGETHER IN THIS, UH, CITY FAMILY, AND IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE ALL, UH, CARING FOR EACH OTHER. 
          BUT, BUT, BUT THIS IS THE VERY, VERY BEGINNING OF THAT, OF THAT CONVERSATION. 
          SO I LOOK FORWARD TO, UM, HEARING FROM THE COMMITTEE. 
          UM, HOPEFULLY THE COMMITTEE WILL TAKE SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS BACK. 
          I HEAR SOME OF THEM ARE ALREADY BEING, UH, TALKED ABOUT, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE, UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA LET THIS GO. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO KEEP PUSHING AND PUSHING AND PUSHING UNTIL WE CAN FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION FOR ALL OF US. 
          SO I APPRECIATE, AGAIN, ALL OF YOU AND YOUR TIME. 
          AND, UM, WITH THAT, WE'RE 
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GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE. 
          UM, JUST A SEC. 
          I LOST TRACK. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          UH, ITEM THREE, UM, BRIEFING FROM BOTH, UH, SS A P D AND FIRE ON, UH, COORDINATION EFFORTS WITH AREA SCHOOL DISTRICTS. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. 
          READY, CHARLES? SO, UH, TO TO, TO THE SURPRISE OF MANY, UH, MAYBE, UH, SINCE 2000, YEAR 2000, THERE HAVE BEEN OVER 450 SCHOOL ATTACKS. 
          AND MOST OF THOSE I DON'T THINK WE HEAR ABOUT, UM, SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER DON'T, THEY DON'T MAKE NATIONAL NEWS. 
          UM, BUT WE, ONCE WE, WE DO LEARN OF THEM, WE REVIEW WHAT HAPPENED, TRYING TO, UM, CARVE LESSONS LEARNED OUT OF THE RESPONSE AND, UH, HOW THAT WAS HANDLED. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO, SINCE THE START OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, UM, UH, IN THE WAKE OF VALDI, THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF HOAX CALLS, NOT ONLY HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 
          AND FROM, FROM WHAT WE CAN DETERMINE, UH, A LOT OF THOSE CALLS ARE FROM THE SAME INDIVIDUAL. 
          UM, UNFORTUNATELY, UH, FOR FIRST RESPONDERS, UH, THOSE HOAX CALLS, UH, PROMPT A RESPONSE FROM, FROM NOT ONLY LAW ENFORCEMENT, BUT OFTEN CASES, UH, THE FIRE FIREFIGHTERS AS WELL, PARAMEDICS AS WELL. 
          SO WE ARE EXPERIENCING THAT IN THE WAKE OF VALDI. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO, MOST OF YOU HAVE SEEN THIS, UH, IN THIS ROOM AS FAR AS THIS WHEEL, AS FAR AS THE PHASES OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OR AN INCIDENT. 
          AND WE'LL START DOWN WITH A PURPLE. 
          IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IS PREVENTATIVE. 
          WE TALK ABOUT FIRE PREVENTION, WE TALK ABOUT SLIPS AND FALLS, WHATEVER WE WANT TO, TO THE PUBLIC TO KNOW. 
          WE WANT TO EDUCATE THEM AND THE HAZARDS, WHAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAMS ARE. 
          SO WE LOOK AT MITIGATION FIRST, AND WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK WITH THAT. 
          AND WE'LL FURTHER GO INTO THAT, THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE PIECE AS FAR AS THE PREPAREDNESS, HOW DO WE RESPOND? AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          TRAINING EXERCISES WE HAVE DONE, UH, A MULTITUDE OF THOSE. 
          AND THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH THAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, IN THIS CASE, THE RESPONSE AS FAR AS LIFE SAVING, UH, WHAT HAVE WE LEARNED FROM OTHER INCIDENTS, HOW DO WE STABILIZE AN IN AN INCIDENT? HOW DO WE, UH, PRESERVE THE PROPERTY? AND THEN EVACUATION MASS CARE, WHICH WE'VE SEEN, UH, EVACUATIONS IN A SCHOOL SHOOTING, ARE GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT'S PRIMARY AS FAR AS GETTING PEOPLE, UH, MOVED OUT OF THAT SCHOOL OF THAT INCIDENT. 
          AND THEN THE RECOVERY. 
          SO WHAT'S THE POST-INCIDENT ANALYSIS LOOK LIKE? UH, AND, AND AGAIN, HOW DO WE LOOK AT ALL OF THESE RESPONSES, IN PARTICULAR IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO TO SEE IF WE CAN RESPOND BETTER, UH, WHAT THE AFTER ACTION REPORTS LOOK LIKE. 
          AND THEN AS WE JUST GOT DONE TALKING ABOUT THE MENTAL, UH, HEALTH AND THE SOCIAL SERVICES, WHICH WE KNOW ARE GONNA BE A CHALLENGE, UH, WHICH WE HAVE LEARNED FIRSTHAND WITH SUTHERLAND SPRINGS AND UVALDE, AS FAR AS SENDING RESOURCES. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO WE WORK THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, UH, WITH THE, UH, WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, UH, PRIMARILY INTELLIGENCE SHARING AND TRAINING. 
          UH, AND WE DO SITE ASSESSMENTS AS WELL. 
          AND VERY RECENTLY, WE'VE, UH, WE'VE, UH, COORDINATED WITH PRE-K S A TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE SCHOOLS ARE ALSO SAFE. 
          AND, AND, UH, AS A SIDE NOTE, UH, PRE-K S A DOES HIRE OFF-DUTY POLICE OFFICERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR STUDENTS ARE SAFE DURING THE DAY. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO, WE, WE'VE HEARD OVER THE YEARS ABOUT THE SOUTHWEST TEXAS FUSION CENTER. 
          UH, IT'S AN ALL THREATS, ALL HAZARDS, UM, UNIT. 
          IT COVERS MOST OF SOUTH TEXAS 42 COUNTIES, UH, TO INCLUDE THE 13 COUNTY ACOG AREA. 
          THERE ARE OVER 300 FUSION LIAISON OFFICERS THROUGHOUT THE REGION, UH, AND, AND OUR FUSION CENTER IS EMBEDDED WITH NOT ONLY SS A P D OFFICERS, BUT, UH, A NUMBER OF, MATTER OF FACT, YOU CAN SEE 'EM ON THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN HERE, THE NUMBER OF AGENCIES, AND, AND, AND THERE ARE OTHERS IN ADDITION TO THAT, THAT ARE EMBEDDED IN THE FUSION CENTER. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO THIS IS THE PUBLIC SAFETY THREAT ASSESSMENT GROUP. 
          UM, ON THE WAY DRIVE BACK FROM, UH, SUTHERLAND SPRINGS, UH, CHIEF ESTRADA AND, UH, UH, ONE OF OUR, UH, EMPLOYEES, I'M FROM THE ARSON THAT'S, UH, ON THE, UH, JOINT TERRORISM TASK FORCE, STARTED HAVING DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT CAN WE DO, UM, BEFORE 
          [01:30:01]
THE BANG, BEFORE THE POP, WHAT CAN WE DO? AND SO, UM, THIS WAS STARTED AFTER 45 DAYS. 
          AND SO THIS, THESE GROUP OF PEOPLE MEET ONCE A MONTH. 
          AND SO YOU CAN SEE FUSION UP THERE FROM BOTH DEPARTMENTS, F B I, THE COUNTY PROTECTIVE SERVICES. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF GROUPS UP THERE. 
          AND SO, UM, YOU COULD BE IN A MEETING AND THEY COULD PULL OUT A NAME OFF OF THEIR LAPTOP, AND EVERYBODY IN THAT GROUP KNOWS WHO THAT PERSON IS. 
          SO HOW DO WE SHARE INFORMATION? HOW DO WE, UM, ELIMINATE THE SILOS? BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S GONNA SAY, ONCE THIS SHOOTING HAPPENED, WELL, WE KNEW SOMETHING WAS GOING ON. 
          HOW DO WE, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET TO THESE PEOPLE BEFORE THEY, UM, HAVE ACTS OF VIOLENCE? NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO WE TALKED ABOUT B T A OR THE BEHAVIORAL THREAT ASSESSMENT GROUP IN THE LAST PRESENTATION. 
          AND AGAIN, IT'S COMPRISED OF S A P D, MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UH, SS A P D, PSYCHOLOGIST AND FIRE AS WELL. 
          AND, AND AGAIN, THEY EVALUATE THREAT CALLS AS THEY COME INTO THE, TO THE DEPARTMENT. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO, AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE PUBLIC SAFETY THREAT ASSESSMENT GROUP. 
          IT'S, IT'S LARGE, IT'S POLICY DRIVEN BY ALL OF THOSE, UM, DIFFERENT AGENCIES THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. 
          ALSO, YOU SEE THE BT TAG, WHICH IS THE BEHAVIORAL THREAT ASSESSMENT GROUP THAT CHIEF MCMANUS JUST TALKED ABOUT. 
          IT'S MORE, UH, CIVIL DRIVEN. 
          IT'S JUST IN TIME, UH, INFORMATION ON AN INCIDENT THAT, THAT MAYBE SOMEONE CAN INTERVENE RIGHT NOW VERSUS IN SOMETHING THAT'S MORE GLOBAL. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND I, I WAS REMISS IN NOT INTRODUCING, UH, UM, DR. 
          LARRY RODRIGUEZ, WHO'S HERE FROM REGION 20. 
          AND LARRY WORKS CLOSELY WITH BOTH POLICE AND FIRE IN COORDINATING, UH, INFORMATION EXCHANGE BETWEEN ISDS AND THE, UH, AND THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND NOT ONLY THE I S D UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT, UH, GROUP, THE POLICE CHIEFS, BUT ALSO THE, THE I S D SUPERINTENDENTS AS WELL. 
          AND MOST OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS, UH, CENTER AROUND POLICY, TRAINING, RESPONSE, AND PROTOCOLS. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO WHAT, WHAT WE SEE HERE ARE, ARE THE VARIOUS STAGES OF ALERT, UH, IN THE SCHOOLS WHEN THERE'S AN EMERGENCY. 
          UH, THE ONE THAT, THAT WE ARE MOST INTERESTED IN, UH, AND MOST CONCERNED WITH ARE THE LOCKDOWNS. 
          UM, THE LOCKDOWNS TYPICALLY WILL REQUIRE SOME TYPE OF RESPONSE FROM LAW ENFOR, WELL, FIRST RESPONDERS, UH, POLICE AND FIRE. 
          SO MOST OF THE INTEREST, UH, OF THESE, UM, FROM THE, OF THESE STATUSES, CONCERN NUMBER THREE, THE LOCKDOWN. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF TRAINING, UH, IN THE WAKE OF VALDI, AND WE, BUT NOT ONLY IN THE WAKE OF VALDI, WE'VE DONE THAT CONSISTENTLY THROUGH THE YEARS, UH, TRAINING SESSIONS WERE OFFERED TO SCHOOLS, AND SS A P D, UH, AS A RESULT OF THOSE OFFERS, HAS DONE 128 PRESENTATIONS SINCE MAY OF 2022. 
          UH, MOST OF THE OTHER TRAINING THAT WE DO INVOLVES NOT ONLY, UH, SAFETY WITHIN THE SCHOOLS, BUT IT'S, IT'S INTEGRATED AND IT INVOLVES NOT ONLY LAW ENFORCEMENT, BUT CIVILIANS, UH, AND, AND, UH, FIRE AS WELL. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO, IF YOU GO BACK TO THAT WHEEL WHERE YOU TALK ABOUT THE PLANNING AND PREPARATION, UH, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS A, UH, BASICALLY A MAP OF A HIGH SCHOOL. 
          WE WANNA PROVIDE THE BEST SITUATIONAL AWARENESS FOR ANY RESPONDER COMING IN, WHETHER IT BE FIRE, PD, UM, OTHER GROUPS. 
          AND SO, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, WE HAVE, UM, BASICALLY COMPLETED, UM, 94% OF OUR HIGH SCHOOLS, UH, 88% OF OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS, AND 23% OF OUR COLLEGES. 
          AND AGAIN, 7% OF OUR OPEN AREAS. 
          WE WANTED TO START FOCUSING ON GETTING INTO EVERY HIGH SCHOOL WITHIN THIS REGION, WITHIN REGION 20, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE MAPS. 
          SO WHEN RESPONDERS GO, THEY CAN SEE WHERE STAGING LOCATIONS ARE. 
          THEY CAN PICK OUT, OKAY, I'M GONNA HAVE A CASUALTY COLLECTION POINT ON NUMBER 12. 
          I CAN BRING HELICOPTERS INTO 13. 
          SO THIS INFORMATION IS, IS BEING ENTERED INTO THE CAD SYSTEM. 
          ALL THE BATTALION CHIEFS WILL HAVE THEM. 
          WE JUST MET WITH, UH, WITH LARRY RODRIGUEZ AND THE SCHOOL CHIEFS LAST WEEK, UM, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE SCHOOLS DO NOT RESIDE IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO LIMITS. 
          SO WE HAVE GONE TO ALL OF THOSE SCHOOLS AND BASICALLY LOOKED AT THEM TO CREATE, UH, A PLAN. 
          SO WHEN OUR RESPONDERS ARE GOING IN, THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          THESE CAN ALSO BE, UH, LAMINATED TO WHERE, UH, WE CAN HAND THESE OUT. 
          THEY CAN USE, UH, DRY ERASE MARKERS ON THEM. 
          SO AGAIN, THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF THIS INCIDENT HAPPENS, EVERYONE RESPONDING IN HAS AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING INTO. 
          SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS, AND WE HAVE SHARED THIS INFORMATION, AND WE'LL BE DONE SHORTLY. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO, THE RESCUE TASK FORCE. 
          SO WE DEVELOPED A RESCUE 
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TASK FORCE IN 2016. 
          IT IS CUTTING EDGE. 
          WE'VE BEEN ALL OVER THE NATION, UM, THE LAST YEAR OR SO, BASICALLY HELPING OTHER DEPARTMENTS TRY TO SET UP A RESCUE TASK FORCE. 
          UH, WE WERE ABLE TO GET BALLISTIC GEAR FOR OUR PERSONNEL. 
          UM, WE DID JOINT TRAINING WITH, UH, S A P D, AND WE TRAINED ABOUT 4,000 PERSONNEL, UM, THEN SUTHERLAND SPRINGS HIT. 
          SO WE HAD A REALLY GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT'S GONNA TAKE FOR US TO RESPOND INTO A REGION LIKE THAT AFTER AN ACTOR SHOOTER. 
          SO, UM, 2018, WE, UH, INTEGRATED THAT INTO SPECIAL EVENTS, FINAL FOURS, FIESTA, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UH, WE DID, UM, ACTIVE SHOOTER EXERCISES WITH FAMILY REUNIFICATION, WHICH WAS CONDUCTED AT FREEMAN COLISEUM. 
          AND, UM, THE UNIFICATION EXERCISES, WE ALSO DID 2019 A BLOSSOM. 
          WE'VE ALSO PURCHASED A MED CAP ON 2021 BECAUSE, UH, AT SOME POINTS, AND AT SOME POINT IN TIME, SOMEONE'S GONNA USE FIRE AS A WEAPON. 
          WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET IN, PROTECT OURSELVES, PROTECT PD, UM, AND, AND TAKE FIRE WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT AND EXPOSURE. 
          SO AGAIN, WE HAVE LEARNED A LOT. 
          WE ARE DOING, UH, RESCUE TASK FORCE TRAINING TO ALL OUR CADETS NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE REALIZED THAT A LOT OF OUR FOLKS RETIRE. 
          THEY CHANGE POSITIONS. 
          SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, OUR FOLKS ARE IMMERSED IN THIS TYPE OF RESPONSE FROM THE DAY THAT THEY COME ON. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO WHEN THERE'S A, WHEN THERE'S A CALL FOR AN ACTIVE THREAT AT A SCHOOL, UH, LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT AN ACTIVE SHOOTER IN THIS CASE. 
          UH, THERE, THERE'S THE, THE FIRST THING THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, EXCUSE ME. 
          THE FIRST THING THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS WE'RE GONNA GET AN IMMEDIATE RESPONSE FROM PATROL. 
          WHEN PATROL GETS THERE. 
          IF THEY LEARN THAT IT'S A HOAX, IT'S GONNA BE OVER PRETTY QUICK. 
          IF THERE IS AN ACTUAL, ACTUAL ACTIVE SHOOTER EVENT, THERE IS AN ACT ACTUAL SHOOTER WHERE SOMEONE WITH A GUN IN THE SCHOOL, IT'S GONNA TRIGGER A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER ACTIVITIES. 
          SO THIS, THESE ACT, THESE, UM, EVENTS ARE VERY FLUID. 
          IT'S GONNA TRIGGER A, A FORWARD COMMAND BEING SET UP. 
          IT'S GONNA TRIGGER AN, AN INCIDENT COMMAND BEING SET UP. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, UH, UH, IN MOST CASES, IF, WELL, IN ALL CASES, IF THERE IS ACTUAL SHOOTING, IT'S GONNA BE A UNIFIED COMMAND. 
          AND THE LONGER IT GOES, THE MORE, UM, THE MORE, UM, THAT UNIFIED COMMAND IS GONNA BE GONNA BE IN PLAY. 
          BUT THE FIRST STEP IS GOING TO BE TO NEUTRALIZE THAT SHOOTER. 
          IF THE SHOOTER'S NEUTRALIZED, YOU'RE STILL GONNA SEE THOSE OTHER THINGS COME INTO PLAY, BUT IT, IT, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE A LOT LESS COMPLICATED IF THAT SHOOTER IS, CONTINUES TO BE ACTIVE. 
          SO, UM, LEADERSHIP, INTEGRATED LEADERSHIP, UH, AND THE FORWARD COMMAND AND THE INCIDENT COMMAND POSTS ARE, ARE CRITICAL TO MAKING SURE THAT THESE, THESE, UH, EVENTS HAVE THE PROPER LEADERSHIP FROM, FROM NOT ONLY, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT, BUT OTHER AGENCIES THAT ARE GONNA BE INVOLVED AS WELL. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO, THE, UH, CRITICAL BREAKDOWN ON ANY ACTIVE SHOOTER IS ALWAYS GONNA BE COMMUNICATION AND LACK OF UNIFIED COMMAND. 
          SO, UM, WE PRACTICE UNIFIED COMMAND ON A DAILY BASIS SOMETIMES, UM, WHERE WE ARE WORKING WITH PD, PUBLIC WORKS, UH, AVIATION, UH, HEALTH DEPARTMENT. 
          SO AGAIN, IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE BOXES UP THERE, IF WE HAVE AN INCIDENT, UM, WE ARE GOING TO SET UP A UNIFIED COMMAND BETWEEN FIRE AND PD, AS WE WERE DISCUSSING WITH, UH, LARRY RODRIGUEZ THE OTHER DAY. 
          AND THOSE CHIEFS, SOMEBODY IN THAT SCHOOL DISTRICT IS GONNA HAVE TO STEP UP AND BE A PART OF UNIFIED COMMAND, AGAIN, TO MANAGE THE PUBLIC INFORMATION, THE SAFETY LIAISON WITH THE OTHER GROUPS. 
          AND THEN AGAIN, IF YOU SEE THE OPERATIONS BOX, THAT'S GONNA BE A VERY HEAVY LAW ENFORCEMENT BOX. 
          SO HOW DO YOU MANAGE ALL THOSE DIFFERENT AGENCIES THAT COME IN? AND THEN ON THE FIRE SIDE AND MEDICAL SIDE, HOW DO WE INTERACT TO WHERE WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET OUR FOLKS IN ON A RESCUE TASK FORCE AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE TO SAVE LIVES? AS CHIEF MCMAHON HAS MENTIONED, THEY WANNA STOP THE KILLING, BUT IT CAN BE DONE SIMULTANEOUSLY. 
          WE'VE SEEN INSTANCES AROUND THE COUNTRY WHERE THIS WASN'T DONE. 
          SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR LEGACIES ARE IN PLACE AS FAR AS THE PUBLIC SAFETY, THE CITY, OUR ORGANIZATIONS, THAT WE RESPOND APPROPRIATELY BECAUSE THESE INCIDENTS ARE GONNA BE SCRUTINIZED VERY HEAVILY AS THEY SHOULD. 
          AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THAT DAY HAPPENS, WE HAVE THE BEST POSSIBLE RESPONSE. 
          AND THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GONNA DO THAT IS THROUGH A UNIFIED COMMAND SYSTEM. 
          SO WE'RE WORKING WITH ALL THE AGENCIES, DEPARTMENTS WITHIN REGION 20 TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT, AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO TRAINING WITH THEM, UH, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IN THE FUTURE. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          THAT'S ME TOO. 
          UH, SO, UM, TEXAS EMERGENCY MEDICAL TASK FORCE. 
          YOU'VE SEEN THIS AMBU, YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN IT AT UVALDE, UH, SUTHERLAND SPRINGS. 
          THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THESE, UH, BUSES THAT ARE ALL OVER THE, UH, STATE OF TEXAS. 
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SO WE ARE IN REGION EIGHT. 
          SO WHEN WE GET A RESPONSE, WHICH WE WERE SENT TO UVALDE AND SUTHERLAND SPRINGS, WE HAVE, UH, SOME OF OUR PERSONNEL RESPONDING WITH THEM. 
          SO THIS INCLUDES FOR MEDICAL INCIDENT SUPPORT, UH, MOBILE MEDICAL UNITS, STRIKE TEAMS OF AMBULANCES, UNFORTUNATELY, MASS FATALITY OPERATIONS RESPONSES, WHICH WE HAVE SEEN THIS SUMMER. 
          AND THEN, UH, THE OTHER SUPPORT AS FAR AS MEDICAL ATTACK MEDS. 
          UM, NEXT SLIDE, WHOLE BLOOD. 
          WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LOT. 
          WHOLE BLOOD SAVES LIVES. 
          I WISH WE WOULD'VE HAD WHOLE BLOOD, UH, IN PLAY AT SUTHERLAND SPRINGS. 
          UH, I THINK IT WOULD'VE SAVED LIVES. 
          WE HAVE GIVEN 1000 UNITS OF, UH, LOW TITER O POSITIVE BLOOD SINCE ITS INCEPTION IN 2018. 
          AGAIN, THIS WILL COME INTO PLAY IN A ACTIVE SHOOTER INCIDENT TO WHERE WE WOULD DEPLOY BLOOD AND HOPEFULLY SAVE LIVES. 
          UM, THIS CONCLUDES MY PIECE OF IT. 
          I THINK, OH, I GOT ONE MORE AFTER INCIDENT. 
          SO, POST-INCIDENT ANALYSIS. 
          AND, AND I THINK WE NEED TO DO THESE ON EVERYTHING. 
          UM, EVEN IF IT'S A, UH, A SWATTING CALL AS FAR AS TALKING ABOUT IT, UH, WHAT DOES OUR AFTER, UH, ACTION REPORT LOOK LIKE? AGAIN, WHAT ARE THE BEST PRACTICES? AND WE THINK WE HAVE A BEST PRACTICE RESPONSE HERE, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA KNOW UNTIL IT HAPPENS. 
          SO HOW DO WE CORRECT THOSE THINGS? UH, ALL HAZARDS APPROACH. 
          THIS COULD BE A, MIGHT NOT BE A SHOOTER, IT COULD BE A, UM, PERSON DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD, TAKING A BUNCH OF PEOPLE OUT DOWNTOWN. 
          SO IT'S GOTTA BE, UM, FOR ALL HAZARDS AND WITH ALL JURISDICTIONS. 
          AND THEN WE UPDATE OUR PLANS. 
          THIS CONCLUDES OUR REPORT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, CHIEFS. 
          UM, I, I'M, I'VE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT, UH, ABOUT OUR POTENTIAL RESPONSE TODAY. 
          I, I HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS AND WE'LL GO TO COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UM, COMMENTS. 
          UM, BUT I, I REALLY KIND OF WONDER IF YOU CAN BREAK IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT FOR ME. 
          UM, GOD FORBID, THERE'S A, THERE'S A SCHOOL SHOOTING, AND, AND I HEAR UNIFIED COMMAND, I THINK IS A BIG TAKEAWAY FOR ME, BUT WHO, WHO'S IN CHARGE? WHO THEN CALLS THE SHOTS? I INITIALLY, THE, THE, OFTENTIMES, THERE'S NOT EVEN GONNA BE A SUPERVISOR THERE. 
          UH, WHEN OFFICERS FIRST ENTER THE SCHOOL OR WHATEVER, IT MAY BE A SUPERVISOR FROM PD OR FROM PD. 
          OKAY. 
          PD. 
          SO, SO IF THERE'S A SCHOOL, UM, UM, SUPERVISOR THERE, SCHOOL POLICE SUPERVISOR THERE, THAT SCHOOL POLICE SUPERVISOR WOULD BE IN CHARGE. 
          BUT AS SOON AS OUR, AS SOON AS SAP P D'S RESOURCES ARE CALLED OUT, SS A P D IS GOING TO BE IN CHARGE, UH, THAT, THAT WOULD BE OUR SWAT TEAM OR BOND, WHATEVER IT MAY BE. 
          BUT WE WILL BE IN CHARGE OF THE, OF THE TACTICAL OPERATION PART OF IT. 
          AND THEN WHEN THE, IF IT DEVELOPS, UH, FAR ENOUGH INTO A UNIFIED COMMAND, AND IT PROBABLY WILL, THEN, UH, THERE'LL BE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, UH, AGENCY LEADERS IN THERE. 
          AND EVERYONE WILL, WILL, UH, WILL PLAY THEIR ROLE WHEN IT COMES TO RESPECT OF WITH THEIR, UH, WITH THEIR RESOURCES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN, UM, YOU, YOU MENTIONED, UH, CHIEF HOOD ABOUT, UH, SOMEBODY FROM, FROM THE, THE SCHOOL WILL HAVE TO BE PART OF UNIFIED, UNIFIED COMMAND. 
          IS THAT PERSON IDENTIFIED? IS IT THE SCHOOL? YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S, IT'S, I'M SORRY. 
          SORRY. 
          IT, IT'S HARD TO IDENTIFY ANYBODY, BECAUSE IF THIS HAPPENS TODAY, IT COULD BE THE LIEUTENANT ON ENGINE FIVE WITH A SERGEANT FROM SS A P D, AND THEN SOMEONE FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT THEY SET UP. 
          AND THEY START THIS CONVERSATION OF, OKAY, I'VE GOT THESE RESOURCES COMING. 
          THIS IS OUR INITIAL PLAN, AND THEY'RE GONNA SET UP A FORWARD COMMAND. 
          THEN MORE ELEMENTS ARE GONNA COME IN AS THE INCIDENT STARTS TO BUILD OUT, AND WE'RE GONNA START FILLING UP ALL OF THOSE BOXES. 
          BUT AGAIN, THAT INITIAL COMMUNICATION HAS TO START WITH SOMEONE. 
          AND SO THE FIRST PERSON THERE, THE LOWEST RANKED PERSON IN ANY OF OUR ORGANIZATIONS, THEY MAY BE IN CHARGE, AND THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          AND WE NEED TO TRAIN THEM UP TO THAT LEVEL TILL THEY CAN MANAGE THAT UNTIL WE GET OTHER RESOURCES THERE. 
          THAT IS ALWAYS THE, UH, FAILURE POINT IN AN INCIDENT THAT NO ONE TAKES COMMAND IN, IN, IN A, IN A, IN A QUICK TIME, NO MATTER WHAT THEIR RANK IS. 
          I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          UM, YOU JUST SAID, I, I THINK IT BEARS REPEATING, UH, IF YOU ARE THE LOWEST RANKED PERSON AND YOU'RE THEIR FIRST ONE THERE, YOU GOT, YOU'RE STILL IN CHARGE, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. 
          UNTIL, UNTIL EVERYBODY GETS THERE, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO I, I'M CURIOUS. 
          I KNOW WE HAD SORT OF, UM, A RECENT INCIDENT INCIDENT AT JEFF HIGH SCHOOL WHERE, UM, UH, THANKFULLY IT WAS A FALSE ALARM, BUT, UM, IT WAS SORT OF A TEST RUN, RIGHT? I KNOW SOME OF THE, SO I WONDER, ARE WE DOING ACTUAL TEST RUN LIKE DRILLS? UM, FOR THIS, WE HAVE A, UM, A TABLETOP SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER AND AN ACTUAL 
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EXERCISE SCHEDULED FOR DEC, I BELIEVE IT'S DECEMBER 20TH. 
          OKAY. 
          NOVEMBER 21, I THINK. 
          AND DECEMBER 20TH ARE THOSE TWO EXERCISE. 
          MATTER OF FACT, CHARLES AND I TALKED ABOUT IT OKAY. 
          JUST THE OTHER DAY. 
          AND, UM, AND, AND ONE OF THE TAKEAWAYS, I THINK FROM, FROM THE INCIDENT AT, AT JEFF WAS, UH, THE PARENT'S RESPONSE, RIGHT? UM, AND YOU DID MENTION, WELL, HERE IT IS, THE PUBLIC INFORMATION SAFETY OFFICER. 
          I THINK THAT'S ALL REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          BUT AS YOU'RE MANAGING THE CRISIS ITSELF, UH, BUT THEN YOU ALSO HAVE TO MANAGE, UM, PARENTS. 
          I, I VENTURE TO SAY, I DON'T THINK I'M WRONG. 
          I'M A PARENT TOO. 
          UM, PARENTS AREN'T GONNA STAND OUTSIDE ANYMORE AND JUST WAIT RIGHT AFTER WHAT WE ALL SAW HAPPEN IN MAY. 
          SO, UM, WHAT, IS THERE A PLAN FOR COMMUNICATING WITH PARENTS? AND YES, ACTUALLY THERE IS, UM, THAT, THAT'S A, THAT WAS AN INCIDENT THAT KIND OF A PART OF THE INCIDENT, EXCUSE ME, THAT CAUGHT US OFF GUARD. 
          UH, PARENTS WERE EXTREMELY, UNDERSTANDABLY ANXIOUS. 
          THEY WANTED TO GET IN THE SCHOOL. 
          THEY WERE, THEY WERE, UM, UM, GETTING, UM, INCREASINGLY ANGRY THAT, THAT THE KIDS WERE NOT OUT OF LOCKDOWN YET. 
          WE WERE TELLING THEM THAT THERE WAS NO THREAT AT THE TIME, BUT THEY WANTED TO KNOW WHY, WHY WE STILL UNDER LOCKDOWN. 
          AND, AND IT WASN'T ALL OF THEM. 
          THERE WAS A SMALL GROUP THAT WAS PUSHING THAT. 
          AND THEN WHEN THE, THERE WAS AN INDIVIDUAL THERE WHO TRIED TO BREAK A, A WINDOW AT THE SCHOOL WITH A KNIFE HE WAS HOLDING, AND HE SERIOUSLY CUT HIMSELF. 
          AND THEN WHEN THAT HAPPENED, IT AMPED UP EVEN FURTHER. 
          BUT WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, AFTER THAT, IN, IN, IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT MEETINGS WITH THE I S T SUPERINTENDENTS AND THE CHIEFS, WAS A, A STANDARD COMMUNICATION PROTOCOL, NOT JUST WHEN AN INCIDENT IS OCCURRING, BUT A COMMUNICATION PROTOCOL THAT IS PUT OUT PERIODICALLY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, SO THAT IF, IF IN THE, IN THE EVENT THAT, THAT WHEN THE PARENTS GET AN, THAT, THAT EVENT NOTIFICATION WHEN IT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING, THEY'RE GONNA UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON AND, AND BE PREPARED FOR IT. 
          SO HOPEFULLY THAT WILL, AND WE'VE, WE'VE GOT A COMMITTEE WORKING, UH, WITH THE I S D CHIEFS, UH, TO COME UP WITH THAT LANGUAGE AND THE, UH, THE ID SUPERINTENDENTS, I THINK THEY'RE, WE'RE WAITING ON THAT. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT IS GONNA BE DUE, UH, I BELIEVE SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT COMMUNICATION PROTOCOL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CHIEF, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? UH, NO MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST DON'T WANNA LEAVE YOU YET. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS. 
          UH, COUNCILMAN MKI RODRIGUEZ. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I GUESS IF MOST OF MY QUESTIONS ARE GONNA HAVE TO DO WITH, UH, COMMUNICATION, WILL THERE BE A, UM, A RESPONSE MEMO SENT THIS MARIA, A MEMO FOR WHAT COUNCILMAN, UH, WILL THERE BE, YOU KNOW, HOW, UM, FOR A COMMITTEE MEETING, WE ASK QUESTION, THE RESPONSES ARE PUT IN A MEMO FORMAT FOR THIS MEETING AFTER THE FACT, AFTER THE FACT, I THINK, SORRY, COUNCILMAN, YOUR, YOUR AUDIO IS CUTTING OUT A LITTLE BIT. 
          I THINK I, I HEARD YOU ASKING IF THERE WOULD BE A RESPONSE MEMO, UH, RECORDING THE RESPONSES TODAY SENT OUT TO US. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? YES. 
          FOR QUESTIONS THAT ARE OUTSTANDING, YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE REASON I ASK THAT IS, UM, I DON'T EXPECT THIS ANSWER RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M WONDERING HOW MANY SCHOOLS WILL HAVE ISSUES AFFORDING IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE AND WHAT ROLE WE CAN PLAY IN ASSISTING THERE. 
          AND SO I DIDN'T NEED THAT ANSWERED HERE, BUT I DO WOULD LIKE IT TO BE INCLUDED AS, UM, IN THAT MEMO. 
          UM, MY QUESTIONS ABOUT COMMUNICATION, I WAS, ONE OF THEM WAS HOW CAN PARENTS FIND ACCURATE INFORMATION ABOUT AN INCIDENT AND GET TIMELY UP-TO-DATE INFORMATION? AND I THINK I HEARD THAT THERE WAS A, NOT, I THINK I HEARD JUST NOW, UH, IN CHIEF'S RESPONSE WAS THAT THERE'S A, A NOTIFICATION SYSTEM THAT IS GOING TO BE GETTING STARTED SOON. 
          A NOTIFICATION SYSTEM COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WOULD BE PUT OUT FROM THE SCHOOLS TO THE PARENTS PERIODICALLY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. 
          MY SUGGESTION WAS POSSIBLY ONCE A QUARTER, SO THAT IN THE EVENT THEY RECEIVED AN ACTUAL EVENT NOTIFICATION THE DAY OF, THEY WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED AND THEY WOULD ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS GOING ON. 
          OKAY. 
          AND HOW, AND HOW AND HOW TO RESPOND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I GUESS I AM WONDERING THEN, HOW CAN PARENTS FIND ACCURATE INFO ABOUT AN INCIDENT? SO THEY GET THIS NOTIFICATION, AND THEN MY IMMEDIATE THOUGHT IS GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, GOOGLE CALL, GO TO THE SCHOOL. 
          THAT'S, I THINK A LOT OF PARENTS, WE SEE THEM RUSH TO SCHOOLS. 
          UM, AND SO A PART OF THE QUESTION IS, HOW CAN PARENTS FIND ACCURATE INFORMATION ABOUT AN, ABOUT AN, UH, AN INCIDENT? UM, HOW CAN PARENTS FIND OUT IF THEIR CHILD WAS AFFECTED? WHAT IS A, A REASONABLE TIMELINE OF THAT COMMUNICATION AND WHAT CAN BE EXPECTED? AND THEN, UM, ANOTHER COMPONENT OF THAT WOULD BE COMMUNICATION TO THE MEDIA. 
          SO HOW DO WE WORK WITH MEDIA PROACTIVELY TO PREVENT MIS MISINFORMATION? AND WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT COMMUNICATION? 
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COUNCILMAN, I'D LIKE TO JUMP IN REAL QUICK. 
          THE FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION, YOU ASK ABOUT SCHOOL HARDENING AS FAR AS SCHOOLS THAT ARE BUILT, OR DOORS AS FAR AS US BEING ABLE TO, TO GET INTO THOSE BUILDINGS. 
          SO WE'RE WORKING, AGAIN, WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AS FAR AS MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TOOLS TO GET IN A SCHOOL, WHEN THE SCHOOLS ARE BUILT, IF THEY'RE HARDENED, WHAT ARE THE FEATURES THAT ARE GOING TO, UH, BE IMPEDIMENTS FOR US? SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          UH, I THINK WITH THE COMMUNICATION, AS FAR AS THE SCHOOLS LAST WEEK, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, WE PROBABLY RESPONDED TO SIX OR SEVEN SCHOOL INCIDENTS. 
          TWO OF THEM WERE FIRES. 
          SO AGAIN, UH, PARENTS LISTEN TO SCANNERS, INFORMATION GETS OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          SO AS FAR AS BEATING SEND, IT IS HARD TO BEAT SEND. 
          BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THE PARENTS HAVE AN EXPECTATION THAT THEY'RE GONNA GET TIMELY INFORMATION. 
          AND AGAIN, UM, HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THIS EPIDEMIC OF, OF PARENTS RESPONDING TO SCHOOLS AFTER WHAT THEY SAW IN VALDI? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD ANSWER FOR THAT. 
          THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT ALL RESPONSES TO SCHOOLS AND HOW WE MANAGE THAT. 
          THE UNIFIED COMMAND PIECE OF IT UP THERE IS THAT THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICERS FROM OUR DEPARTMENTS AND THE SCHOOL ARE GONNA BE A PART OF THAT NOTIFICATION IN THE FUTURE IF IT IS AN INCIDENT. 
          SO I HOPE THAT KIND OF GAVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF INSIGHT ON THOSE QUESTIONS. 
          COUNCILMAN, I KEEP GOING. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I'VE, I'VE ASKED LARRY RODRIGUEZ TO COME UP IN TO THE PODIUM AND, AND RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT COMMUNICATION WITH THE PARENTS. 
          HI, GOOD MORNING. 
          UM, SO I'M, UH, LARRY RODRIGUEZ AND I OVERSEE SCHOOL SAFETY AT THE EDUCATION SERVICE CENTER REGION 20. 
          UM, WE, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M GONNA BE DOING IS I'M GONNA BE WORKING WITH, AS CHIEF MCMANUS, UH, MENTIONED, UH, WORKING WITH SOME OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT POLICE CHIEFS WHO HAVE VOLUNTEERED TO ASSIST WITH THIS INITIATIVE, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE SUPERINTENDENTS. 
          UH, AND I'M GONNA BE INVOLVING OUR, THE PERSON AT REGION 20 WHO KIND OF OVERSEES OUR, UH, PUBLIC INFORMATION, UH, PROCESS. 
          WE WANNA BRING IN THOSE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICERS FROM OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND CHARTER SCHOOLS IN DEVELOPING SOME SORT OF A UNIFIED, UM, SYSTEM OF RESPONDING SO THAT WE'VE GOT TEMPLATES AVAILABLE. 
          AND WE'RE ALL KIND OF TALKING ABOUT UTILIZING THOSE SAME SYSTEMS, WHETHER IT'S SOCIAL MEDIA OR TEXT MESSAGING, OR WHATEVER PROCESS THEY HAVE. 
          THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE TRICKY IS DISTRICTS AND CHARTER SCHOOLS, THEY'RE ALL GONNA HAVE THEIR OWN UNIQUE WAY OF, UH, COMMUNICATING THAT KIND OF INFORMATION TO FAMILIES AND PARENTS ESPECIALLY. 
          BUT, UH, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AT LEAST ALL AWARE OF WHAT THOSE SYSTEMS ARE, SO THAT, UH, IF THEY DON'T HAVE A SYSTEM THAT IS MAYBE A BEST PRACTICE, THEY CAN LOOK AT HOW THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE THAT SYSTEM SO THAT THEY ENHANCE THAT, ENHANCE THAT CAPABILITY OF BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEIR PARENTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I GUESS A PIECE OF THAT, UM, ON THE MEDIA, THE MEDIA PIECE, RIGHT? 'CAUSE THE MEDIA ALSO HAS A DUTY TO REPORT TIMELY INFORMATION, UM, IN A SENSE, WE DON'T WANT THEM TO PROVIDE RUSH INFORMATION. 
          UM, AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S, I'M WONDERING, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A LIST OF STEPS THAT WE CAN PROVIDE OR A TIMELINE OF WHAT INFORMATION WOULD BE AVAILABLE AT WHAT STEPS IN THE PROCESS DURING AN, AN INCIDENT? UM, SO THAT BOTH PARENTS AND FAMILIES, UH, EXPECTATIONS ARE GUIDED A LITTLE BIT AS WELL AS, UM, THE MEDIA COUNCILMAN? UM, I GUESS THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS, IT DEPENDS. 
          I MEAN, THIS CASES ARE COMPLEX IN NATURE, AND WHEN THE CITY PROVIDES INFORMATION ON OUR END, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THE INFORMATION IS ACCURATE THAT WE SHOW ON THE INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM HAS A COORDINATION OF P I O SO WE CAN PROVIDE COMMUNICATION TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          I COULDN'T TELL YOU AN EXACT TIMELINE, BUT OUR GOAL IS TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE COMMUNITY AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE, UH, DISCUSS INTERNALLY IS, UH, UTILIZING TECHNOLOGY THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, ESPECIALLY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND, UM, THE SCHOOLS THAT PERHAPS ARE BEING IMPACTED. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, THE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS A SPIDER TECH TECHNOLOGY THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO ADVER ADVERTISE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO SIGN UP SO WE CAN PROVIDE NOTIFICATIONS, UM, IF THERE'S SO SOMETHING THAT IS GOING ON IN, IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          UM, SO, SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN K RODRIGUEZ, UH, COUNCILWOMAN SANDAL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS ITEM FORWARD AS WELL. 
          UM, THE, THE MOST RECENT EVENT THAT TOOK PLACE AS WAS DOWN THE STREET FROM, FROM ME, JUST A FEW BLOCKS AWAY AT JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL. 
          AND I WANNA THANK YOU AND, UH, THE 58 OFFICERS THAT, THAT WERE THERE FOR, FOR THEIR PROMPT RESPONSE AND, AND THE GOOD WORK THEY DID. 
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I KNOW IT WASN'T PERFECT, BUT, UM, ACCORDING TO OTHER PEOPLE, RIGHT? UM, NO, I, I KNOW IT WASN'T A ABSOLUTELY PERFECT, BUT I THINK IT WAS A LEARNING EXPERIENCE. 
          AND GO, GO AHEAD. 
          SORRY. 
          SO I, I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD ONTO THAT, THAT, THAT THE INITIAL RESPONSE FROM SS A P D AND THE I S D POLICE, IT WAS PERFECT. 
          AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE AFTERMATH, YOU KNOW, UNEXPECTING NOT EXPECTING THE SURGE OF PARENTS WHO WERE, UH, UH, UNDERSTANDABLY ANXIOUS BECAUSE OF WHAT HAD HAPPENED IN VALDI. 
          WE WERE CAUGHT OFF GUARD WITH THAT. 
          BUT I THINK IN THE NEXT, THE NEXT INCIDENT WHEN THAT HAPPENS, WE WILL BE MUCH BETTER PREPARED. 
          NO, THANK YOU. 
          I, I APOLOGIZE. 
          LET ME REPHRASE THAT. 
          IT WAS, LET ME REPHRASE THAT. 
          IT WAS ABSOLUTELY PERFECT. 
          IT WAS SEAMLESS, RIGHT? THE WAY THAT THE I S D WORKED, THE I S D POLICE WORKED WITH SS A P D, SO I'M EXTREMELY PROUD OF, UH, BOTH THE I S D AND, AND OF OUR POLICE FORCE IN THAT RESPONSE. 
          AND, AND YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, UH, SS A I SS D PARENTS, EVEN WHEN THEY COME JUST TO PICK UP THEIR KIDS AT SCHOOL, IT'S, UH, YOU BETTER NOT GET IN THEIR WAY RIGHT BETWEEN THEM AND THEIR CHILD. 
          SO I CAN ONLY IMAGINE, UM, AT THIS POINT. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND I, AND I JUST GIVE THANKS THAT IT WAS, UH, IT WAS A, NOT A, A TRUE THREAT. 
          UM, SO THANK YOU. 
          AND, UH, I ALWAYS, I ALSO WANNA THANK YOU AND JOE FRANK FROM YOUR TEAM FOR ALWAYS CALLING US PROMPTLY WHENEVER THERE IS A THREAT IN, IN OUR AREA. 
          UM, I, I CAN'T LET THIS MEETING GO WITHOUT SAYING THAT. 
          I, I THINK IT'S JUST SUCH A SHAME THAT WE SPEND SO MUCH TIME AND SO MUCH MONEY, UM, ON THIS TOPIC. 
          AND OF COURSE, WE WANT TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN, BUT IT'S JUST A TERRIBLE STATE THAT, AND I DON'T , I DIDN'T MEAN A PUN WHEN I SAID THAT. 
          IT'S JUST A TERRIBLE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN, THAT WE'RE FORCED TO SPEND SO MUCH OF OUR PUBLIC DOLLARS ON THINGS LIKE THIS INSTEAD OF EDUCATION, UH, FOR OUR CHILDREN. 
          UM, BUT YOU ARE, UH, RISING TO THE CHALLENGE. 
          SO I WAS VERY GLAD TO HEAR TODAY'S, UH, UPDATES. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL, COUNCILWOMAN BRAN. 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          UM, I UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS PRESENTATION, UH, BUT IT'S NOT ONE I LOOKED FORWARD TO. 
          THE TRAGEDY IN VALDI WAS A MULTI-LEVELED DISASTER, AND THE COMMUNITY THERE AND THE STATE ARE STILL LOOKING FOR ANSWERS. 
          SO, BUT I WANNA GO BACK AND FOCUS ON OUR COMMUNITY AND WHAT I THINK THE PARENTS ARE LOOKING FOR. 
          AND I THINK THE FOCUS WE HAVE HERE IS THE PARENTS WANT TO BE REASSURED. 
          WE HAVE A PLAN IN THE SCHOOL, AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, NOT JUST IN D THREE, UH, BUT CITYWIDE. 
          AND, UM, I'M GLAD YOU GUYS ARE WORKING ON THIS. 
          I KNEW YOU HAD PLANS BEFOREHAND. 
          I WAS CONFIDENT IN HARLANDALE, SOUTH SIDE, EAST CENTRAL, S A I S D, THAT THEY ALL HAD PLANS ON MOVING THIS. 
          SO, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO DO WHAT LARRY SAID. 
          WE NEED A UNIFIED CODE, A POSSIBLE CHECKLIST, UH, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR SMALLER SCHOOLS OR CHARTER SCHOOLS, OUR IDEA SCHOOLS. 
          UH, AND I THINK THAT WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE, THE FIRST PRIORITY IS TO NEUTRALIZE THAT THREAT. 
          YOU KNOW, I THINK THE, THE PRIORITY BEFORE THAT IS, IS IT A HOAX OR IS IT A, AN ACTUAL THREAT? AND THEN AFTER THAT, IF IT'S NATURAL THREAT, WE, WE NEUTRALIZE THIS, BUT I THINK WE AS A CITY NEED TO LOOK AT OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA AND SUPPORT ANY STATE LEGISLATION THAT COMES OUT TO REALLY COME DOWN ON THOSE THAT ARE CREATING THESE HOAX SITUATIONS. 
          BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED, UM, IF THEY, IT IS LIKE A TERRORISTIC THREAT, BUT ON ANOTHER LEVEL, BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING THIS WITH SCHOOLS THE SAME, YOU KNOW, I'M GETTING NOTIFICATIONS. 
          SOMEBODY IN U VALDI JUST MADE ANOTHER THREAT ON U VALDI VIA SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          SO IT'S LIKE, WE NEED TO STOP THOSE HOAX BECAUSE WE KNOW WITH YOUR STATS OF 450, SINCE 2000, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE GOING IN AND SHOOTING AND WE NEED TO STOP THE HOAX SO THAT WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT. 
          SO I THINK THE OTHER THING, UH, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND BASED ON THAT IS IF STATE AND COUNTY WANT TO HELP WITH, UM, DOLLARS THAT THEY CAN HELP THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS WITH THE NOTIFICATION SYSTEMS FOR THE SCHOOLS AND THE PARENTS. 
          SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO PUSH THAT ALSO AT THE STATE LEVEL. 
          AND THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK WE WOULD JUST NEED TO SEE, UH, UH, CHIEF MCNESS AND CHIEF HOOD IS WHAT ACTUAL STATE AGENCIES DO WE IN SAN ANTONIO ANTICIPATE BEING PART OF A, OF A CALL LIKE THIS IN TERMS OF UNIFIED COMMAND? BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT POLICE, WE HAVE OUR S A P D, WE HAVE OUR CONSTABLES AND SHERIFF'S 
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OFFICE, AND WE HAVE THEN, UM, OUR LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES THAT MAY WANNA HELP. 
          SO IF WE COULD, IN THAT CREATION OF THE CHECKLIST LIST OR UNIFIED CODE, WHAT ACTUAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES DO WE ANTICIPATE COMING OUT THERE, AND WHEN DO WE ACTUALLY CALL THEM AND SAY, OKAY, WE NEED, WE NEED YOU TO COME IN. 
          UM, SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ONE OF, ONE OF THE MOST OBVIOUS, UH, STATE AGENCIES THAT WOULD PROBABLY RESPOND WOULD BE THE, WOULD BE D P S. 
          UM, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THAT WENT WRONG DOWN IN UVALDE WAS THERE WERE TOO MANY DAG GOING AGENCIES DOWN THERE AT ONE TIME, ESPECIALLY IN THE, IN THE, IN LIGHT OF THE, I HATE TO BRING THIS UP AGAIN, BUT IN LIGHT OF LACK OF LEADERSHIP DOWN THERE, WHEN YOU HAVE ALL THOSE AGENCIES RESPONDING AND NOBODY IN CHARGE IN ANY WAY, IT, IT'S GONNA BE A DISASTER. 
          SO, PUT, DO YOU, DO YOU SEE ANY OTHER AGENCIES WE MIGHT NEED OTHER THAN OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT OR POLICE DEPARTMENT, STATE HIGHWAY? UM, WE HAVE AMPLE RESOURCES BETWEEN PD AND FIRE TO MANAGE ANY INCIDENT, UH, WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. 
          THE, THE CHALLENGE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS THAT WE DO GO OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS. 
          AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO TRAIN WITH THE OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENTS AGENCIES BESIDE SS A P D. 
          AND THAT'S WHY IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO GO OUT AND STRESS THIS UNIFIED COMMAND TO, TO ANYONE WITHIN, UM, ANYONE THAT WE MAY RESPOND TO. 
          BUT AS FAR AS OTHER AGENCIES RESPONDING IN SAN ANTONIO AS FAR AS FIRE, E M SS, I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING. 
          BUT WE DO GO OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS ON THESE, AND IT'S BEEN PROVEN ALREADY. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE YOU NEED TO BUILD UP AGAIN, THE RELATIONSHIPS OF THOSE OUTSIDE AGENCIES. 
          YEAH, AND I, I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO GO BACK, MARIA AND TALK WITH THE COUNTIES AND ACOG AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY, THAT THEY UNDERSTAND OUR EXPECTATIONS FOR TRAINING AND, AND FOR FOLLOWING, UM, HELP HELPING CREATE AND FOLLOW THIS UNIFIED, UH, COMMAND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO COUNCILWOMAN, WE DO HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE ALAMO AREA FIRE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS ALL THE, THE ESDS PRIMARILY. 
          AND WE RESPOND WITH THEM, UH, A LOT. 
          I DON'T WANNA SAY EVERY DAY, BUT WE, A LOT OF BRUSH FIRES, A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN ON OUR BORDERS. 
          WE HAVE GOOD RESPONSES WITH THEM. 
          SO I DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY ISSUES WITH ANY OF OUR NEIGHBORING FIRE E M S RESOURCES OUT THERE WHATSOEVER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILWOMAN GERRAN, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION FOR BOTH OF YOU, UH, CHIEFS. 
          AGAIN, IT'S KIND A HEAVY, UH, FIRE AND POLICE DAY, BUT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          I THINK BOTH TOPICS WERE EXTREMELY TIMELY AND IMPORTANT. 
          UM, I'M SORRY, WE'RE GONNA PROBABLY HAVE TO PUSH A C SS TO NEXT TIME, UH, JUST 'CAUSE OUR TIME'S UP AND, UM, THIS IS A, THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS ALSO INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION. 
          OUR NEXT MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 30TH AND THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED. 
          THANK YOU EVERYONE.
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