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UM, AND WE WILL START WITH ROLL CALL COUNCIL MEMBER VILLAGRA.
COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE PRESENT CHAIR ROCHA GARCIA.
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WE'LL START OFF WITH THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER THE 22ND.I HOPE EVERYONE'S HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THEM.
THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL ON FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS,
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UM, WELL ACTUALLY WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP FOR A PUBLIC COMMENT.
YES, MR. SEAL, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
GOOD MORNING COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF, UM, AND FOLKS FROM C P S ENERGY HERE.
I'M VERY GLAD TO SEE THAT THEY HELP BE ABLE TO, UH, MR. HIGGINS BE ANSWERED SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS TODAY.
I'M RUSSELL SEALE FROM THE SIERRA CLUB AND WE POSTPONED, UH, THE ENERGY CODES LAST MEETING.
AND SINCE THEN WE HAVE MET WITH MOST CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE, OR WE HAVE ONE LEFT TO MEET WITH NEXT WEEK, AND WE HAVE NOTHING BUT POSITIVE, UH, FEEDBACK AND ENTHUSIASM THAT YOUR COMMITTEE WILL PUSH FORWARD OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE ENERGY CODES.
BUT NONETHELESS, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE 2021 ENERGY CODES TODAY.
HOPEFULLY WE CAN DO THESE LOCAL AMENDMENTS AND MAKE THAT HAPPEN WITHOUT GOING INTO A B SESSION.
BUT IT'S FOUR ITEMS. WE'RE ASKING FOR THE INSTALLATION UPGRADES, AND WE WOULD, HOPEFULLY THIS IS GONNA GO DOWN THE PERFORMANCE PATH INSTEAD OF THE PRESCRIPTIVE PATH AND THE PERFORMANCE PATH.
THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO PUT IN THE THREE OUNCES OF INSUL INSULATION IN, THEY CAN FIND MAYBE SOMETHING ELSE, A BETTER WINDOW OR SOME OTHER THING TO DO IT.
AND THAT'S HOPEFULLY BY GOING DOWN THIS, IT'S GONNA PROVIDE A BETTER PERFORMANCE PATH.
THE, UH, SOLAR READY, ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR IS DON'T PUT THE VENT PIPES THROUGH THE SOLAR ZONE, THE SOUTH OF THE WEST SIDE OF THE HOUSES ON THE EV READY, THE 40 AMP, UH, 240 VOLT BREAKER IN HOPEFULLY WIRING TO A CONVENIENT LOCATION IN THE GARAGE.
THAT WIRING TO CONVENIENT LOCATION IN CASE THAT PANEL DOES NOT EXIST IN THE GARAGE.
WE HAVE SINCE SUGGESTED LANGUAGE FOR THESE FOUR ITEMS, SO, UH, WE HAVE SHOWED TO YOU AND, UH, HOPEFULLY I JUST LEFT OFF THE, UH, OH, ENERGY MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS FOR LARGE HOMES AND LARGE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
LET'S STAY WITH THE I C C RECOMMENDED, UH, PATH ON THAT.
WE HAVE TO HAVE AND HELP C P SS ENERGY OUT.
WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE SMART ENERGY MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS THAT CONNECT WITH, UH, C P S ENERGY TO HELP WITH THESE ENERGY EVENTS THAT WE SOMETIMES HAVE TO HELP WITH OUR OVERALL USAGE.
THIS HELPS ALL OF OUR RATE PAYERS, EVERYBODY ACROSS THE BOARD.
IT'S NOT JUST THE BIG COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS OR THE BIG HOMEOWNERS.
BY HAVING THESE DEMAND MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS, IT'S A STEP IN KEEPING OUR PEAK USAGE DOWN AND, UH, CONTROLLING FOR THESE OTHER EVENTS.
SO PLEASE, I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME LOOKING OVER THIS STUFF.
WE'VE GONE OVER A LOT OF DETAIL AND COUNCILMAN ROCHA GARCIA, BECAUSE YOU ASKED FOR IT.
WE FLOODED YOU WITH DOCUMENTATION AND RESOURCES, SO THANK YOU FOR PUTTING US THROUGH THAT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SENDING THAT INFORMATION OVER.
WE ALSO HAVE A WRITTEN, UH, LETTER THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL, AND I BELIEVE YOU'RE GONNA READ IT INTO THE RECORD.
PLEASE MEMO FROM COUNCILWOMAN ANA SANDOVAL.
THANK YOU FOR CONDUCTING A THOROUGH REVIEW OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY'S ENERGY CODE.
I APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE BUILDING RELATED AND FIRE CODE APPEALS AND ADVISORY BOARD.
I HAVE IDENTIFIED CONCERNS WITH A FEW OF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AND MY SUGGESTED ALTERNATIVES.
IPE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER THIS INPUT DURING YOUR COMMITTEE DISCUSSION.
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ENERGY CONTROLS, MONITORS, AND CONTROLS STAFF RECOMMENDATION REQUIRE ENERGY MONITORS IN BUILDINGS 100,000 SQUARE FEET AND OVER THE 2021 I E C C CODE RECOMMENDS A BUILDING SIZE THRESHOLD OF 25,000 SQUARE FEET.MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO ADOPT A COMPROMISED THRESHOLD OF 50,000 SQUARE FEET.
IF WE ARE EVER TO MAKE PROGRESS ON THE CITY'S ADOPTED CLIMATE GOALS, OUR COMMUNITY MUST IMPROVE BUILDING ENERGY EFFICIENCY.
ONE PROVEN WAY OF HELPING BUILDING OWNERS REDUCE ENERGY CONSUMPTION AND SAVE MONEY IS ENSURING BUILDING OWNERS ARE AWARE OF THEIR ENERGY USE.
FOR THE LAST YEAR, THE OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY AND, AND AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING A FRAMEWORK FOR A BUILDING ENERGY AWARENESS ORDINANCE.
THE COMMITTEE HAS REACHED A COMPROMISE THRESHOLD OF 50,000 SQUARE FEET.
FOR ENERGY AWARENESS REQUIREMENTS.
I RECOMMEND MAKING BOTH EFFORTS CONSISTENT TO COMPLIMENT EACH OTHER.
C 4 0 9 EV CAPABLE PARKING STAFF RECOMMENDATION RESERVE AT LEAST 3% OF REQUIRED PARKING SPACES FOR FUTURE EV CHARGING.
BEXAR COUNTY IS LEADING THE STATE IN A ADOPTING ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
WE NEED TO PURSUE STRONGER REQUIREMENTS THAN THE ADVISORY BOARD RECOMMENDED.
I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE NEED TO SET THE MINIMUM PARKING HIGHER THAN 3%, ALTHOUGH I WOULD NOT GO AS FAR AS THE 10% PROPOSED BY THE SIERRA CLUB.
FOR REFERENCE, CITIES LIKE ATLANTA AND SAN JOSE HAVE ADOPTED SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER MAXIMUMS, 20% AND 40% RESPECTIVELY.
ADDITIONALLY, THE FINANCES ARE CLEAR ON THIS.
IT IS THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS CHEAPER TO MAKE PARKING SPACES EV CAPABLE UPFRONT.
CEILING INSULATION STAFF RECOMMENDATION, MAINTAIN THE 2018 I E C C R VALUE OF 38.
THIS COUNCIL HAS RECOGNIZED THAT WEATHERIZATION IS AS MUCH ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY AS IT IS ABOUT UTILITY AFFORDABILITY.
WITH THAT IN MIND, I RECOMMEND WE ADOPT THE 2021 I E C C REQUIREMENT OF R VALUE 49.
INCREASING CEILING INSULATION TO THE RECOMMENDED VALUE WOULD COST AN ESTIMATED 221 2 600 $12 PER DWELLING UNIT.
ACCORDING TO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST NATIONAL LABORATORY'S ESTIMATES, PURSUING SUCH A RETROFIT WOULD UNDOUBTEDLY COST MUCH MORE LATER.
R FOUR 10 EV READY HOMES STAFF RECOMMENDATION REQUIRE INSTALLATION OF ONE LEVEL CHARGING OUTLETS IN NEW HOMES, I'M SORRY, LEVEL ONE CHARGING OUTLETS.
IN NEW HOMES, I RECOMMEND INSTALLATION OF LEVEL TWO CHARGING OUTLETS.
IN NEW HOMES, LEVEL TWO OUTLETS ARE CONSIDERED SUITABLE FOR FULLY ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
AND THE AVERAGE UPFRONT INSTALLATION COST IS A MERE $50 ACCORDING TO THE SOUTHWEST ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROJECT.
FOR COMPARISON, THE AVERAGE COST TO RETROFIT IS $250 PER CHARGER.
ADDITIONALLY, LEVEL TWO CHARGERS WILL ALLOW OUR CITY TO MAKE MORE EFFICIENT USE OF THE ENERGY GRID BY CHARGING VEHICLES OVERNIGHT.
IF WE IGNORE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO REQUIRE EV READINESS FOR FUTURE CONSTRUCTION, WE ARE IGNORING STRONG SIGNALS FROM THE MARKET THAT EV OWNERSHIP WILL DRASTICALLY INCREASE SOONER THAN EXPECTED.
WE'LL START OFF, UM, NOW WITH THE
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ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.ITEM NUMBER TWO IS THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF LORI, YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING BEFORE YOU TURN IT OVER TO MARK? YES.
THIS IS A CARRYOVER OF A, UM, AN ITEM FROM A MEETING A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON OUR STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.
IT WAS ADOPTED LAST YEAR, AND WE HAVE SEVERAL PARTNERS HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT STRATEGIES THEY HAVE THAT ALIGN WITH OUR SHIP.
BECAUSE OUR HOUSING GOAL ISN'T THE CITY HOUSING GOAL, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO HOUSING GOAL, IT'S THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
AND OUR HOUSING PARTNERS, BOTH PRIVATE AND PUBLIC, THAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
AND SO EACH OF THEM HAVE A COMPONENT OF THAT, AND THEY'LL BE BRIEFING YOU ON THAT.
BUT I WANNA BRING IN MARK CARMONA, WHO IS OUR CHIEF HOUSING OFFICER, JUST TO GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW ON THE SHIP AND WHERE WE ARE IN SOME OF THESE STRATEGIES.
GOOD MORNING CHAIR COUNCIL MEMBERS, MARK
HAPPY TO BE WITH YOU HERE TODAY.
EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT OUR LATEST, UH, SHIP UPDATE AND TO SHARE THIS SPACE AND PRESENTATION WITH OUR PARTNERS, ROBERT RENA FROM BEXAR COUNTY AT ED ENO HOSA AND TIM ALCOTT FROM OPPORTUNITY HOME SAN ANTONIO.
AND PETE ALANIS FROM THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST.
SO THIS PRESENTATION REALLY IS GOING TO JUST KIND OF FOCUS ON THE SHIP ITSELF.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE SHIP WE CREATED A NEW DEFINITION OF AFFORDABILITY.
WE'VE, WE'VE ESTABLISHED PRODUCTION AND PRESERVATION TARGETS, WHICH I'LL GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON OUR FUNDING OUTLOOK OVER THE 10 YEAR PERIOD
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AND THE STRATEGIES IN WHICH WE'RE ALREADY STARTING TO MAKE PROGRESS.SO AS IT RELATES TO PROGRESS, ACTUAL PRODUCTION PRESERVATION, UH, TOWARDS OUR GOALS, YOU CAN SEE OUR TARGET OVER THE 10 YEAR PERIOD FOR HOME OWNERSHIP IS 12,936.
WE HAVE JUST OVER 2000 IN THE PIPELINE RIGHT NOW AND 264 THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED ON THE RENTAL SIDE.
WE'VE GOT, UH, 11,480 IN THE PIPELINE AND A AND 1,326 THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.
AS IT RELATES TO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, OUR TARGET IS A THOUSAND.
WE HAVE 61 IN THE PIPELINE RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVEN'T COMPLETED ANY YET, BUT THOSE HAVE JUST STARTED.
SO A PROJECT IS CONSIDERED IN THE PIPELINE WHEN IT'S RECEIVED FORMAL SUPPORT FROM THE CITY OR ONE OF OUR PARTNERS AND REMAINS IN THE PIPELINE UNTIL THE COMPLETION OF THE CONSTRUCTION.
SO WANTED TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON THE DIFFERENT STRATEGIES THOSE WE'VE COMPLETED, COMPLETED THOSE IN PROGRESS AND THOSE THAT ARE NEXT UP SO FAR.
UM, WE'VE COMPLETED, UH, FIVE OF THE STRATEGIES.
THE FIRST BEING PRESERVING SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING THROUGH EXPANDING FUNDING FOR PRESERVATION AND REHAB BOND FUNDS, UH, AS WELL AS OUR CITY.
UH, BUDGET IS ALLOWING US TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
WE HAVE UPDATED THE CITY FA, UH, FEE WAIVER PROGRAM.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'RE PROVIDING MORE SUBSIDY NOW, MORE TO AFFORDABLE DEVELOPMENTS.
AS BEFORE, WE'VE CONDUCTED A COUNTYWIDE SYSTEMS ANALYSIS.
IT WAS PRESENTED TO THE HOUSING COMMISSION BACK IN MAY.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE DEVELOPED A AND IMPLEMENTED A DISPLACEMENT IMPACT ASSESSMENT THAT WAS UTILIZED, UH, IN THE, IN THE LATEST EVALUATIONS OF, OF RENTAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THROUGH OUR R F P BOND PROCESS.
AND WE'VE ESTABLISHED A DEMOLITION PREVENTION AND MITIGATION PROGRAM, UH, OPERATION REBUILD, WHICH IS UNDERWAY, UH, WITH A HOUSE ALREADY, UH, UNDERWAY AND A NUMBER OF OTHER PROJECT, UH, HOUSES, UH, IN PROCESS, UH, IN PROGRESS RIGHT NOW.
UH, AS YOU KNOW, THIS WEEK THERE'LL BE UPDATES TO THE U D C, UH, TO REMOVE BARRIERS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING PRODUCTION AND PRESERVATION.
SPECIFICALLY WHAT OUR REMOVING BARRIERS SUBCOMMITTEE, THE HOUSING COMMISSION IS FOCUSED ON IS REALLY ADUS AND AMENDMENTS TO REALLY INCREASE THE AVAILABILITY AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UH, WE ARE ADVANCING UNIVERSAL DESIGN AND VISIBILITY STANDARDS.
YOU, YOU COULD SAW THAT THROUGH OUR, OUR R F P PROCESS AND, UH, YOU'RE SEEING IT WITH ONE OF THE PARTNERS, PE WE WILL PROBABLY TALK SOME ABOUT UNIVERSAL DESIGN IN HIS PRESENTATION.
BUT THE HOUSING TRUST HAS REALLY EMBRACED THIS STANDARD.
UH, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF PRODUCING A THOUSAND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING UNITS.
I THINK WE REALIZED, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH WE SAID A THOUSAND OVER 10 YEARS, WE CAN PROBABLY USE A THOUSAND NOW.
AND SO WE'LL WORK TOWARDS, UH, IMPLEMENTING THIS, PRODUCING THESE UNITS, AND THEN SEEING WHAT ELSE WE CAN LEVERAGE TO BRING IN ADDITIONAL UNITS AS WELL.
WE'VE STARTED THE PROGRESS, THE PROCESS OF IMPLEMENTING, AND THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME FROM THIS COMMITTEE, A PUBLIC INFORMATION CAMPAIGN FOR HOUSING, UH, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY STARTED, UM, IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON AN OVERALL PLAN THAT WE'LL PROBABLY ROLL OUT BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.
AND IN PROGRESS, THIS SYSTEM-WIDE EVICTION CLOSURE PREVENTION, I THINK YOU REMEMBER THERE WAS A, ABOUT JUST OVER A $9 MILLION GRANT FROM STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDS THAT ALLOWS US TO REALLY, UH, STABILIZE AND EXPAND OUR RIGHT TO COUNCIL AS WELL AS OUR RENTER RELOCATION PROGRAMS. NEXT UP, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IN JANUARY, UH, THE NEXT STATE LEGISLATIVE SESSION IS HITTING AND WE ARE ALREADY READY.
UM, UH, THESE AREAS OF ADVOCATING FOR THE VALOREM TAX, EXPANDING MEDICAID IN TEXAS, ADVOCATING AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL FOR MORE HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHERS AND EXPANDING LAND TITLE REMEDIATION.
THE FIRST TWO SPECIFICALLY ARE IN OUR STATE LEGISLATIVE PACKAGE, UH, THAT'S GONE THROUGH GA.
UM, AND WE DID RECEIVE SOME FUNDING IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET TO EXPAND THE LAND TITLE REMEDIATION PROGRAM.
WE THINK THAT AN R F P WILL PROBABLY GO OUT BY THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR.
SOME KEY UPDATES ON THE HOUSING BOND.
WE RELEASED RFPS ON THE 19TH OF AUGUST.
WE HAD INTERVIEWS THE WEEKS OF OCTOBER 17TH AND 23RD.
UH, WE HAVE A HOUSING COMMISSION MEETING JUST TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE LOOKED AT, UH, ON NOVEMBER THE NINTH.
THERE'S A B SESSION ON THE 30TH AND HOPEFULLY COUNCIL ACTION ON DECEMBER THE 13TH.
SO THIS IS MOVING SOME OTHER KEY UPDATES.
AS YOU KNOW, I JUST MENTIONED EARLIER, WE IDENTIFIED DISPLACEMENT DRIVERS IN COMMUNITIES.
WE CREATED A PILOT PROGRAM RIGHT NOW FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION BOND FUNDED DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEING, IT'S BEING UTILIZED, I THINK IT'S WORKING
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AS INTENDED.AND I THINK SOME POTENTIAL NEXT STEPS IS WHERE IT'S, IT'S APPLICATION COULD BE USED WITH OTHER FUNDING SOURCES AND IN SOME OTHER DEVELOPMENT TYPES OF, UH, PROGRAMS. AS I MENTIONED, UPDATES TO THE U D C, REMOVING BARRIERS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WE'RE PROPOSING AMENDMENTS, UH, TO THE DEFINITION OF AFFORDABILITY AND SPECIFICALLY A D U CONSTRUCTION AND PRESERVATION, UH, SUBMITTED ON BEHALF OF THE HOUSING COMMISSION.
AMENDMENTS ARE GONNA BE HEARD AT COUNCIL THIS WEEK.
AND WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH LISC ON AN A D U PILOT.
THEY'RE WORKING WITH MADONNA CENTER AND THE HOUSE OF NEIGHBORLY SERVICE TO IDENTIFY THOSE ADUS IN EXISTENCE RIGHT NOW THAT MAYBE AREN'T, UH, PERMIT READY OR HAVEN'T, DIDN'T UTILIZE THE WHOLE PROCESS TO GET THEM UP, UH, TO, TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE SO THAT THEY CAN UTILIZE THEIR ADUS.
UH, WE THINK THIS IS SOME LOW HANGING FRUIT AND LISC IS GONNA BE PARTNERING WITH THEM AND WORKING WITH US ON THIS PROJECT.
SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF THIS TO GET THIS MOVING.
WE'VE ESTABLISHED THE DEMOLITION OPERATION REBUILD.
THIS HAS BEEN A, A REALLY INTERESTING PROJECT.
UM, ALTHOUGH WE'RE UNDER UNDERWAY WITH OUR FIRST HOME, UH, WE FOUND THAT ONE, IDENTIFYING, FINDING PEOPLE WAS A CHALLENGE.
UH, TITLE WAS A BIG, BIG ISSUE AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH.
WE'VE GONE THROUGH AT LEAST EIGHT OF THE FIRST HOUSES ON THE FIRST 10 ON THE LIST, SO WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH SOME OF THEM, BUT WE'RE HAVING TO WORK THROUGH A LOT OF TITLE ISSUES.
BUT THE APPROACH OF FOCUSING ON THE FAMILY EQUALLY AS FOCUSING ON THE REHAB, I THINK IS ALREADY PAYING DIVIDENDS.
AND, UM, AND WE CAN SEE WHERE NOW IN THIS ONE HOUSE, THIS FIRST HOUSE, WE HAVE THE WHOLE FAMILY THAT'S ENGAGED IN THIS PROCESS.
AND I THINK THAT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE, UH, LONG TERM.
SOME LEGISLATIVE ITEMS I'VE MENTIONED ALREADY.
UH, WE'RE GONNA BE ADVOCATING AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL OPTIONS TO REDUCE TAX BURDEN FOR HOMEOWNERS, MEDICAID EXPANSION, OUR HOUSE, OUR H C V PROGRAM EXPANSION, SOME OF OUR SHIP PARTNERS.
I I THINK OPPORTUNITY HOME WAS DEFINITELY THERE, PARTICIPATING IN THE SS A D C TRIP IN MARCH.
UM, AND THEN GA, WE'RE GONNA CARRY THESE ITEMS FORWARD INTO THE UPCOMING STATE SESSION.
SOME CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE SEEING SO FAR AS WE IMPLEMENT THE SHIP IS RISING CONSTRUCTION COSTS, RISING LABOR COSTS, AND RISING INTEREST RATES.
UH, WE'VE RUN INTO SOME NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERN ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, SPECIFICALLY AROUND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
SO WE'RE HAVING TO REGROUP AND RETHINK HOW WE, UM, WE TALK ABOUT THIS WITH COMMUNITY.
I THINK OUR START REALLY IS NOW WHAT IS PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, HOW IT'S DIFFERENT THAN SHELTER, HOW DOES IT WORK? WHERE HAS IT WORKED? HOW SUCCESSFUL HAS IT BEEN? AND SO, SO WE'RE RE KIND OF ESTABLISHING HOW WE WANNA LOOK AT THAT.
AND THEN OUR VOUCHER PROGRAM IMPLEMENTATION.
INITIALLY WE RAN INTO SOME GAPS, BIG GAPS FROM WHAT VOUCHERS WERE PAYING VERSUS WHAT THE MARKET WAS.
UNFORTUNATELY, NOT UNFORTUNATELY, FORTUNATELY, HUD HAS JUST RELEASED THE NEW FMRS, THE FAIR MARKET RENTAL RATES, AND THEY'VE REALLY SHOT UP ABOUT 11%, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.
AND IT'S REALLY HELPING US MEET SOME OF THAT GAP.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALSO, WE HAD A LANDLORD SUMMIT LAST THURSDAY, ATTENDED BY ALMOST 200, UH, PEOPLE.
COUNCILWOMAN ROCHA GARCIA, THANK YOU FOR, FOR COMING.
AND, UM, IT WAS SOME REALLY HONEST, GOOD DISCUSSION BETWEEN LANDLORDS.
UH, OPPORTUNITY HOME, HUD WAS THERE, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, N H S D, UM, THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION.
WE HAD A LOT OF FOLKS DEVELOPING THIS.
UM, AND I THINK THE DISCUSSIONS REALLY LEADING TOWARDS, UM, INCREASING RELATIONSHIPS AND INCREASING THE NUMBER OF LANDLORDS THAT WILL ACCEPT OUR VOUCHERS IN THE COMMUNITY.
OPPORTUNITY HOME DID A GREAT JOB.
I ATTENDED ONE OF THE WORKSHOPS ON WHAT THE VOUCHERS ARE.
I THINK YOU SAW A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF MISINFORMATION.
THEY WERE REALLY ABLE TO CLARIFY.
THERE WAS A SESSION ON UNDERSTANDING TENANT LAW THAT WAS WELL ATTENDED.
SO ALL 200 PEOPLE WERE STAYING LATE INTO THE DAY.
AND SO THAT'S ALWAYS A GOOD SIGN.
SO AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO, UH, PASS IT OVER TO ROBERT RENA FROM BEAR COUNTY TO GIVE HIS PRESENTATION.
OBVIOUSLY I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
WELL, GOOD MORNING COUNCIL COMMITTEE AND HAPPY HALLOWEEN.
MY NAME IS ROBERT RENA, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING DIRECTOR FOR BEAR COUNTY.
AND THIS MORNING I'D LIKE TO SHARE SOME EXCITING UPDATES REGARDING THE COUNTY'S RECENT INVESTMENTS IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
ON AUGUST 9TH, 2022, BEXAR COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT ALLOCATED $20 MILLION IN CORONAVIRUS STATE AND LOCAL FISCAL RECOVERY FUNDS IN SUPPORT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES.
BAYAR COUNTY IS UTILIZING THIS FUNDING TO DELIVER A RANGE OF HOUSING OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE OF VARYING INCOME LEVELS AND NEEDS, BUT SPECIFICALLY PEOPLE THAT THE PRIVATE MARKET FAILS TO REACH SUCH AS SENIOR CITIZENS, YOUTH AGING OUT OF FOSTER CARE, PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND JUSTICE INVOLVED INDIVIDUALS.
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COUNTY IS COORDINATING AND LEVERAGING OUR FISCAL RECOVERY FUND INVESTMENTS IN SUPPORT OF THE CITY'S 10 YEAR STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN TARGETS.SO WITH RESPECT TO INVESTMENT LEVELS BY FOCAL AREA, THE COUNTY IS INVESTING $8 MILLION INTO MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING, CONSTRUCTION AND PRESERVATION FOR HOUSEHOLDS EARNING 16 TO 60% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME.
WE'RE INVESTING $5 MILLION INTO SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING CONSTRUCTION AND PRESERVATION FOR HOUSEHOLDS EARNING BETWEEN 31 AND 80% A M I.
AND WE'RE INVESTING $7 MILLION INTO EMERGENCY SHELTER AND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FOR INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES EARNING LESS THAN 30% A M I.
THE COUNTY ALSO RECEIVED $2.5 MILLION IN HOME A FUNDS THROUGH THE US DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT.
AND WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH OUR COLLEAGUES AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT, THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES AND THE SOUTH ALAMO REGIONAL ALLIANCE FOR THE HOMELESS TO UNDERTAKE A JOINT R F P FOR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
SO AGAIN, THE COUNTY IS VERY COMMITTED TO SUPPORTING THE GOAL SET FORTH IN SHIP.
AND I'D LIKE TO THANK LORI HOUSTON, UH, MARK CARMONA, VERONICA GARCIA, MELODY WOOSLEY, AND THEIR RESPECTIVE TEAMS FOR THEIR WILLINGNESS TO INCLUDE COLLABORATE AND PARTNER, UH, WITH BEAR COUNTY.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL PASS IT OVER TO ED EHOS AND TIM ALCOTT WITH OPPORTUNITY HOME SAN ANTONIO.
UM, FIRST I JUST WANTED TO MENTION OUR NAME CHANGE.
AS, AS YOU KNOW, IT'S, UM, IT'S STILL NEW NEWS, BUT, UH, WE ARE NO LONGER KNOWN AS THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING AUTHORITY.
WE'RE KNOWN AS OPPORTUNITY HOME.
AND ALONG WITH THAT NAME CHANGE, WE HAVE BEEN DOING QUITE A BIT OF WORK INSIDE THE ORGANIZATION OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS YEAR.
AND, UM, ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IS, UH, DEVELOPED A CORE SET OF VALUES.
AND OUR VALUES NOW INCLUDE EQUITY, COMPASSION, AND EXCELLENCE.
AND THIS, THIS IS REALLY A MILESTONE FOR US BECAUSE WE'VE NEVER HAD VALUES IN THE PAST.
UH, WE'VE BEEN DOING QUITE A BIT OF TRAINING WITH VALUES AROUND EQUITY IN PARTICULAR, UH, FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.
AND, UM, WE'VE ALSO BEEN DOING TRAINING AROUND, UH, TRAUMA-INFORMED CARE.
SO MORE THAN HALF OF OUR ORGANIZATION HAS NOW BEEN TRAINED IN BOTH OF THESE, UH, AREAS.
ADDITIONALLY, I WANTED TO MENTION WE'VE REFOCUSED OUR PRIORITIES AS A HOUSING AUTHORITY, AND NOW WE HAVE A PRIORITY OF KEEPING THE INDIVIDUALS HOUSED THAT ARE IN HOUSING.
AND WE'VE ALSO SAID, UH, OUR SECOND PRIORITY IS TO ADDRESS HOUSING FOR PEOPLE ON OUR WAIT LIST, WHICH FOR THE MOST PART IS ABOUT 15% A M I PEOPLE EARNING $10,000 A YEAR AND LESS.
UM, SO THAT'S, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES.
AS WE HAVE CHANGED OUR NAME TO OPPORTUNITY HOME, WE'VE ALSO BEEN CHANGING, UH, THE FOCUS OF THE ORGANIZATION.
WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO TIM, WHO'S CHARGED WITH, UH, DIRECTING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE SHIP WITH OUR ORGANIZATION.
AND THANK YOU COUNCILMAN GARCIA AND COUNCILMAN CASTILLO FOR COMING TO OUR GRAND OPENING OF ASPIRE AT 10 PEAK LAST THURSDAY.
SO THANK YOU BOTH FOR COMING TO THAT.
SO LEMME GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE HERE.
AND, UM, WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THESE NUMBERS, IT'S PRETTY SURPRISING AS WE GO THROUGH THIS.
WE HAVE 41,700 INDIVIDUALS WE, WE SERVE.
AND THAT COMES OUT TO ABOUT 16,800 HOUSEHOLDS.
SO IT'S ABOUT TWO POINT SOMETHING PEOPLE PER, PER, UM, PER HOUSE OR PER PER UNIT.
THE, UM, 46% OF 'EM HAVE CHILDREN.
AND THE AREA, THE AVERAGE INCOME IS $10,300 FOR BOTH PUBLIC HOUSING AND VOUCHERS.
AND THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT NUMBER BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA SEE IN THE NEXT SLIDE OUR WAIT LIST.
BUT WHENEVER YOU'RE EARNING 10,300, YOU CANNOT AFFORD A TAX CREDIT DEVELOPMENT UNIT WITHOUT A VOUCHER.
AND SO, 'CAUSE THOSE ARE SERVE, YOU KNOW, ZERO TO 30% A M I THAT RENT IN 2022 IS ABOUT $560 A MONTH.
AND IF YOU'RE MAKING $10,300 A YEAR, YOU CANNOT AFFORD A TAX CREDIT DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO AS WE GO THROUGH THESE SLIDES HERE, I GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE THAT WE HAVE 86,700 PEOPLE ON OUR WAIT LIST.
UM, MOST OF THOSE FOLKS CANNOT FIND A DEVELOPMENT.
YOU KNOW, SAHA IS THE ONLY ONE, OR EXCUSE ME, OPPORTUNITY HOME
THE ONLY WAY THEY COULD DO IT WAS WITH A VOUCHER.
BUT AS ED MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, 15 THOU, 15% A M I IS NOT A FOCUS.
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SAN ANTONIO'S ON OUR WAIT LIST, WHEN I SAW THAT NUMBER THE FIRST TIME, THAT WAS A BIG SURPRISE.UM, SO WE DO HAVE THE, THE BOARD DID APPROVE OUR, UM, STRATEGIC IMPLE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.
UM, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CITY AND WE'RE, OUR FOCUS IS ON THE VERY LOW INCOME, UH, UH, UNITS.
AND ONE OF THE WAYS WE'RE DOING THAT IS WE'RE SELF-DEVELOPING BY DIRECTLY MANAGING THE CONSTRUCTION, THE ENGINEERS AND THE ARCHITECTS, UM, IN ADDITION TO PROVIDING A TAX EXEMPTION.
SO WE THINK THAT'S THE WAY WE CAN ACTUALLY SERVE THEM, IS ACTUALLY KEEPING THAT REVENUE STREAM IN HOUSE SO WE CAN PUT THAT MONEY BACK INTO THOSE, UH, VERY DEEPLY AFFORDABLE UNITS.
THE CHALLENGES WITH HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHERS, SO THE OPPORTUNITY HOME RECEIVES ABOUT 13,700 VOUCHERS.
THE DEMAND FAR EXCEEDS, AS WE SAW IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDES, THE NUMBER OF VOUCHERS AVAILABLE.
AND ALSO WHENEVER THEY GET THE VOUCHERS, IT DOES TAKE SOME TIME TO FIND A UNIT DEPENDING ON WHAT SIDE OF TOWN.
ON THE NORTH SIDE, IT'S VERY CHALLENGING TO FIND, UM, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT WILL ACCEPT A, A VOUCHER.
UH, BUT IT'S 1400 FAMILIES HAVE VOUCHERS AND THEY'RE, THEY ARE SEARCHING FOR HOMES AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER.
UM, THEIR INCOMES ARE VERY LOW.
AND SO WITHOUT THE VOUCHER OF ONE OF OUR UNITS FOR THEM TO FIND A HOME IS A, UM, IS, IS A CHALLENGE.
UH, THE OTHER, UH, BIG DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU KNOW, IS IN THE WORKS THAT I WANNA MENTION IS THE AL AMAZON UPDATE, AND IT'S CALLED THE AL AMAZON EXPANSION.
UH, THAT'S, UH, THE NAME WE'RE USING IT FOR, BUT IT IS 501 USING IT AND IT'S JUST AL AMAZON.
THERE'S AN AL AMAZON AND APACHE.
SOMETIMES PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, MERGE THOSE TWO THINGS.
IT'S ACTUALLY TWO SEPARATE DEVELOPMENTS, BUT ONE LEASING OFFICE AND IT'S 501 UNITS.
AND, UM, THE FIRST PHASE THAT WE'RE DOING IS AMAZON EXPANSION, AS I MENTIONED, IS 88 UNITS.
IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT PUBLIC HOUSING.
AND SO, UH, WE HAD SOME LAND THAT WAS AT THE APACHE SITE, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
AND WE'RE, WE ARE GONNA BUILD THE DEVELOPMENT THERE.
AND SO AS FOLKS, UM, AND AL ON, WHAT WE HOPE TO DO IS GIVE A PRIORITY FOR THOSE RESIDENTS, WE'LL MOVE THEM OVER AND THEN WE'LL BULL BULLDOZE DOWN A PHASE, REBUILD THAT, AND THEN MOVE PEOPLE OVER.
SO THERE WILL NOT BE ANY DISPLACEMENT, BUT AGAIN, UM, A HUNDRED PERCENT PUBLIC HOUSING SERVING THE POOREST OF THE POOR IN SAN ANTONIO.
UH, WHEN WE BUILD THAT, IT'LL BE A, UM, A GREAT WIN.
AND WE, UH, WE APPLIED FOR CITY BOND FUNDING AND I KNOW THE CITY'S, YOU KNOW, LOOKING TO HELP US ON THAT.
SO I WANNA THANK YOU, YOU KNOW, FOR CONSIDERING OUR APPLICATION AS WELL.
AND I KNOW I'M, UH, SPEAKING TO THE CHOIR SINCE ALL OF YOU ARE MEMBERS OF MY BOARD.
SO I'LL TRY TO GO THROUGH THIS A LITTLE BIT, UH, QUICKLY.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S PEOPLE WATCHING PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT ALSO, UH, UH, HAVE AN INTEREST IN THIS.
SO THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST IS AN ENTITY THAT WAS CREATED BY THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
AND WE ARE ACTUALLY FOUR DIFFERENT CORPORATE ENTITIES.
WE ARE A TRUST FUND, A FOUNDATION, WHICH IS A SEPARATE 5 0 1 C THREE, A PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION, AND A FINANCE CORPORATION THAT HAVE DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS AND DIFFERENT ROLES.
AND THEY'RE ALL NOW WORKING TOGETHER.
AND THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST MISSION IS TO CREATE AND PRESERVE HOUSING THAT'S AFFORDABLE, ACCESSIBLE, ATTAINABLE, AND SUSTAINABLE.
OVER THE PAST, UH, UH, SINCE, UH, 2019, WE PROVIDED ABOUT $8.7 MILLION IN GRANT AWARDS TO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, UH, INITIATIVES IN, UH, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY AND OTHER EFFORTS.
UM, WE'VE ALSO CREATED AND PRESERVED SINCE, UH, 2008, UH, ABOUT 10,600 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO WE, UH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, HAVE COMPLETED OUR FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN.
UM, AND I THINK THE SLIDES ON HERE ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE SLIDES IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT, UM, ULTIMATELY WE HAVE CREATED SIX, UH, STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES AS TO CLARIFY, UH, THE HOUSING TRUST ROLE, UH, IN OUR LOCAL HOUSING SYSTEM, FACILITATE THE PRESERVATION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING FINANCE, CONSTRUCTION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING SUPPORT, NEIGHBORHOOD PRESERVATION EFFORT, PASS IT TO GROW AND ENGAGE IN ADVOCACY AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
SO I HEAR STAFF AND THE POINT OF THIS SLIDE REALLY IS TO SHOW THAT THE PROGRESSION OF WHERE WE STARTED IS DIRECTLY TIED TO THE ALIGNMENT OF THE SHIP.
SO, UH, THE ENTIRE PURPOSE, OUR FOCUS PURPOSE, OUR FOCUS OF CREATING OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IS ACTUALLY BORN THROUGH THE SHIP POLICY.
UM, AND THAT HAS MOVED FORWARD.
LET'S SEE, SO WE HAVE CREATED OUR OWN SET OF BELIEFS IN CORE SYSTEMS. UM, OUR CORE BELIEFS ARE THAT HOUSING IS A HUMAN RIGHT.
HOUSING SHOULD BE AFFORDABLE AND ATTAINABLE FOR PERSONS AT ALL
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INCOME LEVELS.HOUSING SHOULD BE DESIGNED AND ACCOMMODATED FOR PERSONS WITH ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF, OF BODY TYPES AND ABILITIES.
AND I'LL, I'LL GIVE REFERENCE TO THAT WITH OUR SUSTAINABLE AND UNIVERSAL DESIGN COMMITTEE HERE IN A MOMENT.
UM, HOUSING SHOULD ALSO LIMIT THE IMPACT ON OUR ENVIRONMENT AND BE RESILIENT TO CLIMATE CHANGE.
WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING ON, THEY'RE GONNA UPDATE YOUR DECK.
SO WE'LL JUST LOSE THE SCREENS FOR A SECOND AND OKAY.
ENTERTAIN EVERYBODY WITH SOMETHING ELSE.
SO, UH, WITH RESPECT TO CORE VALUES, UM, CORE VALUES, WE HAVE COMPASSION, EQUITY, INNOVATION, UH, THESE ARE SOME OF THE SAME CORE VALUES THAT YOU HAVE ADOPTED AS A, AS A CITY.
UM, AND ALSO ALIGNS WITH A LOT OF THE SAME VALUES THAT WE HAVE WITH, UH, WITH OUR COLLEAGUES, UM, AT, UH, AT THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING AUTHORITY AS WELL.
SO, UH, THINGS LIKE INNOVATION, WE WANT TO BE CREATIVE IN WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE DOING TO BRING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN SAN ANTONIO.
MAYBE LOOK AT THINGS IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
WE, IF THE HOUSING TRUST HAVE A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY IN WHAT WE DO, UH, WITH THE DOLLARS WHICH ARE UNRESTRICTED DOLLARS.
UM, AND THAT REALLY GIVES US A LEG, A A LITTLE BIT OF A LEG UP INSTEAD OF DEALING WITH, UH, HUD, C D B G HOME, UM, AND OTHER TYPES OF DOLLARS THAT MAY HAVE CERTAIN STRINGS ATTACHED TO THEM.
AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT MY NEXT SLIDE WAS, BUT
SO ONE OF OUR STRATEGIES HAS TO DO WITH AN INCLUSIVE HOUSING MODEL.
UH, AN INCLUSIVE HOUSING MODEL IS, UH, ESSENTIALLY A FORM OF SOCIAL HOUSING, RIGHT? WE TALK ABOUT WHAT IS SOCIAL HOUSING? SOCIAL HOUSING IS HOUSING THAT IS ACTUALLY OWNED BY YOUR GOVERNMENT ENTITY.
UM, THE SAN ANTONIO, OR EXCUSE ME, OPPORTUNITY HOME.
SAN ANTONIO HAS A, UH, A PUBLIC HOUSING MODEL, WHICH IS A FORM OF SOCIAL HOUSING.
UH, BUT TYPICALLY THE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SEE IS MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE GOVERNMENT OWNED HOUSING THAT CATERS TO A WIDER RANGE OF INCOMES.
WE BELIEVE THAT'LL BE A WAY OF PROVIDING SELF-SUFFICIENCY, UM, IN A PROPERTY.
OUR FIRST, UH, INCLUSIVE HOUSING, UH, PROPERTY THAT WE'VE DONE THANK YOU IS, UM, IS WITH RESPECT TO OUR, OUR LOSS AT CREEKVIEW PROJECT, WHICH IS CURRENTLY IN CONSTRUCTION.
UM, AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS PERMANENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, RIGHT? IT, WE ARE THE SOLE OWNERS OF THAT PROPERTY.
IT'LL ALWAYS BE UNDER OUR OWNERSHIP.
AND WE'RE GONNA BE FINANCING, UH, THESE PROPERTIES THROUGH OUR P F C ESSENTIAL BOND AND MAYBE WITH SOME OTHER PUBLIC FUNDING THAT MIGHT COME IN.
UM, WE WOULD HIRE A DEVELOPER ON A FEE BASIS OR LOOK TO MAYBE SELF-DEVELOP IN THE FUTURE.
UM, BUT INSTEAD OF THE DEVELOPER BRINGING US PROJECTS, WE WOULD BE THE ONES SELECTING THE SITES.
WE WOULD BE THE ONES DESIGNING OUR PROJECTS.
WE WOULD BE THE ONES SETTING UP THE FINANCIAL STRUCTURES AND THEN SELLING THAT TO A, A BOND INVESTOR, UH, WHO WOULD BUY THE BONDS THAT WE WOULD ISSUE.
UM, THE EARNED EQUITY, UM, IS REINVESTED BACK INTO THE PROPERTY VERSUS PAID OUT TO PRIVATE EQUITY INVESTORS.
UM, AND THAT WAY WE CAN KEEP REINVESTING THOSE DOLLARS THAT ARE ACCUMULATED INTO UPKEEP FOR THE PROPERTY, LOWERING, UH, UH, RENT LEVELS OR A M I LEVELS, MAYBE ADDRESSING DIFFERENT BANDS.
UM, AND THEN FINALLY, THE, THE DESIGN ASPECTS, WHICH ARE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE DESIGN ASPECTS, WHICH ARE GONNA BE WELL CONSTRUCTED, THEY'RE GONNA BE SUSTAINABLE, AND THEY'RE GONNA BE BUILT FOR PERSONS WITH ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF ABILITIES.
UM, AND OF COURSE, WE WILL SUPPORT TENANT, UH, RIGHTS TENANT ORGANIZATIONS PROVIDE DIFFERENT SORTS OF TENANT SERVICES AND ASSISTANCE.
SO SOME OF THE EXAMPLE STRATEGIES THAT WE'RE DOING AT THE TRUST, UH, WHICH DO ALIGN DIRECTLY WITH THE SHIP IS THE INVESTMENT OR THE CREATION OF COMMUNITY LAND TRUSTS.
UH, THIS WAS ONE OF THE PRIORITIES THAT WE SAW, UH, UH, FOR YEARS WE'VE BEEN FIGURING OUT HOW CAN WE ACTUALLY ACCOMMODATE THIS.
WELL, COMMUNITY LAND TRUST IS A LAND TRUST THAT HOLDS THE LAND AND GROUND LEASES THAT BACK TO, UH, THE RESIDENT, UM, THROUGH A A A A FOR SALE PRODUCT OR RENTAL PRODUCT.
UM, AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO WORK WITH NONPROFIT PARTNERS OR COMMUNITY-BASED PARTNERS TO ACHIEVE THIS.
SO PART OF WHAT YOU AS A A P F C WILL BE SEEING VERY SOON IS GOING TO BE OUR FIRST R F P, UM, FOR COMMUNITY LAND TRUST.
SO THAT'LL BE COMING TO OUR COMMITTEE HERE, UH, NEXT WEEK.
SO WE ARE GONNA ALSO WORK WITH NON-PROFITS ON MULTI-FAMILY LAND TRUSTS.
THIS IS WHERE THE, THE HOUSING TRUST WILL ACTUALLY OWN THE PROPERTY AND LEASE IT BACK TO THE NON-PROFIT.
WE'LL WORK ON DIFFERENT TYPES OF LAND BANK OPPORTUNITIES.
WE'RE REALLY GONNA ALSO RENEW OUR FOCUS ON MULTIFAMILY REHAB AND AFFORDABILITY, PRE PRESERVATION.
UM, THERE WAS A, A A, A STUDY THAT CAME OUT BY THE TEXAS HOUSERS
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THAT SHOWED WE HAVE LOST IN OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT 4,800 UNITS, UH, OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS OF, UH, OF THINGS THAT WERE RENT AND INCOME RESTRICTED AND NO LONGER ARE RENT AND INCOME RESTRICTED.SO WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND STOP THE BLEEDING OF WHAT'S OUT THERE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN EXTEND AFFORDABILITY PERIODS ON, ON, UH, ON UNITS THAT DON'T CONVERT TO MARKET.
UM, WE ALSO WANT TO CONTINUE THE LITECH PROGRAM.
THE LITECH PROGRAM DOES SERVE A, A, A, A HUGE POPULATION OF OUR CITY.
UM, AND ALSO SUSTAINABLE AND UNIVERSAL DESIGN EFFORTS.
THIS PAST WEEKEND, WE MET OVER AT GREENLINE NORTH, UM, WITH, UH, ON SATURDAY WITH, UH, SOME OF OUR SUSTAINABILITY AND DESIGN TEAM MEMBERS.
WE ACTUALLY WALKED THROUGH THE PROPERTY.
UM, WE DID ESSENTIALLY A DESIGN CHARETTE BASED ON A SET OF GUIDELINES, UH, OUTTA CALIFORNIA CALLED THE DEL THE KELSEY DESIGN STANDARD.
AND WORKING TO ADAPT THOSE STANDARDS LOCALLY INTO HOW PROJECTS ARE BUILT HERE IN TEXAS AND IN SAN ANTONIO.
AND, UM, THAT PROCESS IS GOING FANTASTIC.
WE CAN'T WAIT TO PROVIDE YOU WITH AN UPDATE ON THAT HERE PRETTY SOON.
UM, SO THE BETTER WE BUILD THESE PRODUCTS IN THE FUTURE, UM, THE LONGER WE CAN, UH, UH, ACCOMMODATE OUR AGING POPULATION.
UM, AND SO THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
UM, SO THAT'S SOME THINGS THAT WE DON'T NORMALLY SEE WHEN WE'RE JUST FOCUSED ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE NUMBERS AND, AND RENT STRATIFICATIONS.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO THINK OF THOUGHTFUL DESIGN.
AND THEN FINALLY, WE'RE GONNA BE COM UH, UH, COORDINATING SUPPORT WITH PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
UM, MAYBE ROLL THAT INTO A LAND TRUST PROGRAM, MAYBE LOOK TO DO A 9%, UH, UH, LITECH DEVELOPMENT, UH, WITH P S H, UM, PROBABLY STARTING IN 2024.
SO, UM, ALL THAT TOGETHER ARE THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING THAT ARE IN LINE WITH THE SHIP THAT YOU AS A BOARD HAVE APPROVED.
AND, UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO, UH, TO HAVE QUITE A BIT OF IMPACT OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
SO, CHAIR COMMITTEE, UH, JUST, THAT'S THE, OUR PRESENTATION AND UPDATE ON THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.
AND WE'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MAY HAVE.
UM, ALL, ALL OF OUR PARTNERS WHO ARE HERE, UH, AND ROBERT AND, AND ED, UM, AND TIM AND, AND PETE AND I WANNA REFERENCE SPECIFICALLY AT THE OPPORTUNITY HOME, UH, REBRANDING, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT'S MORE THAN A REBRANDING.
AND I WAS VERY PROUD TO HEAR THAT YOU ALL HAVE ADDED VALUES AND THAT, UM, THAT SOME OF THE KEY VALUES THAT THE CITY FOCUSES ON, LIKE EQUITY ARE, ARE INCLUDED.
AND SO, UM, CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT.
I LOOK FORWARD TO A LOT, UH, MORE REALLY GOOD THINGS HAPPENING WITH YOU ALL ALSO.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT THERE.
AND IT WAS REALLY COOL TO BE OVER AT THE ASPIRE.
UM, IF Y'ALL HAVEN'T CHECKED IT OUT, YOU COULD SEE IT OFF OF THE HIGHWAY AND THERE'S THESE BEAUTIFUL, BRIGHT COLORS AND APPARENTLY THE, THE COLORING WAS MODELED AFTER COUNCILMAN CASTILLO'S CHILDHOOD HOME.
UH, BUT IT, THERE'S, IT IS JUST SO NICE OUT THERE.
AND SO PEOPLE WERE READY IN THE HALLOWEEN SPIRIT LAST WEEK WHEN WE GOT THERE.
UM, I ALSO WANT TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT, OR I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS I ITEM CAME TO OUR COMMITTEE SO THAT WE COULD STAY ON TOP OF THIS, RIGHT? AND SO SLIDE NUMBER FIVE, IF YOU CAN PLUG OVER TO SLIDE NUMBER FIVE, THERE'S A LIST OF COMPLETE AND PROGRESS AND NEXT STEP ITEMS. UM, THERE'S CATEGORIES THAT SAY AND MORE IN ALL OF THESE, RIGHT? AND SO IN PARTICULAR, THE ONES THAT SAY IN PROGRESS AND, UM, COMPLETE, UH, 'CAUSE WE HAVE THE, THE NEXT STEP.
BUT IF WE CAN KIND OF GET ALL OF THOSE, LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF DETAIL ON ALL OF THE ONES THAT COULDN'T FIT ON THIS SLIDE, JUST SO THAT KIND OF, IT, IT COULD STAY TOP OF MIND.
MAYBE YOU COULD SEND IT TO OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
MARK, OR DO I, YOU REFERRING TO SLIDE FIVE? YES.
SO ALL OF THE STRATEGIES WHERE WE'RE WITH ALL OF THEM.
AND SO, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO, JUST SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF KEEP OUR OWN LITTLE DASHBOARD, IF YOU'LL ABSOLUTELY, WE'LL COME UP WITH A WAY TO PR UH, COMMUNICATE THAT TO YOU ON A REGULAR BASIS.
AND THEN ON SLIDE EIGHT, THERE'S SOME INFORMATION ON GOALS AS IT PERTAINS TO ADUS.
CAN YOU GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON HOW ANY PROPOSED AMENDMENTS INCREASE THE AFFORDABILITY OF ADUS AND MAYBE HOW, HOW IT'S SAFER, UM, AND EASIER TO CONSTRUCT THEM, BUT ALSO TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE AFFORDABLE.
SO THE, THE AMENDMENTS ARE GONNA ALLOW FOR MORE PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE A CASITA OR SOMETHING IN THEIR BACKYARD.
I, I THINK IT'S, IT'S MAYBE BARRIERS THAT EXIST TODAY, HOPEFULLY THROUGH THE AMENDMENTS ARE TAKEN AWAY.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A PROCESS.
WE'LL BE DOING A LOT OF EDUCATION WORK WITH PEOPLE AS THEY LOOK AT WHAT ADUS THEY HAVE EXISTING OR WHAT THEY'RE CONSIDERING.
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FOR YOU TODAY IN TERMS OF WHAT I THINK THAT INCREASE WILL LOOK LIKE IN THE FIRST YEAR, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN WORK ON.AND THEN I JUST, I WANNA REMIND US THAT I, I KNOW THAT THEY'RE LOWER IN COST TO RENT, BUT THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY AFFORDABLE JUST BECAUSE, UM, THEY'RE SMALLER IN SQUARE FOOTAGE.
AND ALSO DEPENDS WHERE YOU ARE, ET CETERA.
AND MATERIALS, I MEAN, SOME OF THE SAME CHALLENGES WE HAVE POTENTIALLY, WE COULD HAVE THOSE WITH ADUS, BUT ALSO IT DEPENDS, THE CONDITION OF A CASITA IN SOMEONE'S BACKYARD POTENTIALLY MAKES THE COST A LITTLE BIT MORE FEASIBLE.
WE'LL GO ON TO A LITTLE RED WRITING HOOD.
UM, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION, MARK.
I THINK THE, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PROGRESS FOR ALL.
SO I AGREE WITH MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUE ON SLIDE NUMBER NINE.
THE RE RE THE REPAIR AND REBUILD HOMES POTENTIALLY FACING DEMOLITION.
UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF LEGACY HOMES IN DISTRICT THREE, AND SO IF WE COULD GET PROGRESS FOR THAT PILOT PROGRAM AND THEN ALSO SEE HOW WE MAYBE CAN HELP WITH OUR DISTRICT OFFICES AND OUR OUTREACH WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
UM, I HAD A PRESENTATION DONE TO AT HIGHLAND PARK AND THEY WERE TOLD BY CODE, WHICH WAS TRUE, THAT THEY NEED TO GET, IF THEY'RE GONNA CHANGE THE STRUCTURE OF THE HOME, THEY NEED TO GET PERMITS.
AND THAT KIND OF TOOK, TOOK THEM ABACK.
AND HIGHLAND PARK IS ONE OF MY OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS WITH LEGACY HOMES, AND I THINK IF THEY KNOW THAT THERE'S PROGRAMS OUT THERE AND IF THEY NEED HELP, THAT'S, THAT'S KEY AS I SEND CODE OUT TO DO PRESENTATIONS.
UM, THE OTHER SLIDE IS ON SLIDE 11 WHEN WE PA WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE CHALLENGES WE'RE SEEING, YES, THERE ARE RISING CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND RISING LABOR COSTS, BUT I WAS PART OF A LUNCHEON AND SOMEONE WAS, UM, UPSET BECAUSE THEY, THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE LABOR THAT THEY NEEDED.
BUT MY POINT WAS, THERE ARE SOME CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES THAT AREN'T HAVING A PROBLEM WITH LABOR BECAUSE THEY ARE PROVIDING BENEFITS OR HIGHER WAGES.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO COMMUNICATE THAT TO INDIVIDUALS.
THE THE OTHER THING IS IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT, UM, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH DEVELOPERS AND, AND THOSE DOING CONSTRUCTION, IF THEY'RE GOING TO THE FEDERAL LEVEL WITH AN AGENDA ON, UM, FINDING LABOR, WHETHER IT'S IT'S, UH, WITH VISAS OR, OR THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WE, WE ARE, WE'RE PART OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ALL, I THINK EVERYBODY'S HAVING PROBLEMS WITH CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND, UM, INTEREST RATES, BUT NOT EVERYBODY'S HAVING PROBLEMS WITH LABOR AND WE NEED TO ADMIT THAT.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERN ABOUT DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT BRINGING IN POSSIBLY C N E, BRINGING IN OUR PARTNERS AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT IN THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE I, I FEEL LIKE I'M FACING THAT ON WHATEVER NEW DEVELOPMENT WANTS TO COME IN, WHETHER IT'S, UM, WORKFORCE, AFFORDABLE, AFFORDABLE, PERMANENT, SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, MARKET RATE, APARTMENTS.
WE'RE JUST GETTING PUSHBACK ON EVERYTHING.
UH, SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE, UM, CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN, SO PERHAPS WOMAN, JUST TO CLARIFY MM-HMM.
AND THEN THE OTHER, I, I'M GLAD TO SEE BEXAR COUNTY COMING ALONG.
I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND, UM, THE STRATEGIES THEY HAVE SO FAR.
I THINK MY ONE QUESTION IS, UM, ROBERT, IS ARE WE COMMUNICATING WITH THE, THE BORDER AREAS IN TERMS OF HOUSING, IN TERMS OF STREETS AND INFRASTRUCTURE? ARE WE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS? 'CAUSE I KNOW NEW DEVELOPMENT IS COMING, WHICH MEANS MORE TRAFFIC AND, YOU KNOW, A STREET OVER THERE IN THE CITY.
SO ARE WE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, UH, LOOKING AT THAT? NOT CURRENTLY, BUT WE WILL.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE DO THAT BECAUSE I KNOW SOMETIMES THE COUNTY IS WORKING AND THEY HAVE HOUSING PROJECTS COMING IN AND THIS, THEY MAY NOT KNOW BECAUSE THE PHASE OF WHERE THE CITY DEVELOPMENT IS COMING AND WHAT WE MIGHT HAVE IS TWO DEVELOPMENTS GOING UP AT THE SAME TIME AND WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED THE TRAFFIC FLOW.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE WE DO THAT.
AND THEN MY NEXT, UM, WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING, ADAM, TIM, AND IT'S, IT'S SO NICE TO PUT, UM, UH, FACES TO NAMES.
BUT I THINK MY QUESTION, UH, FOR THIS IS,
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UM, ONE IS THE CURRENT HOMES OF OPPORTUNITY HOME SAN ANTONIO IS WHAT I'M, I'M HEARING FROM THE RESIDENTS IS A LOT OF SAFETY CONCERNS.AND I'VE REACHED OUT TO SOME SPECIFIC, UM, PROPERTIES, LILA COCKRELL, UM, UH, THE LEWIS CHATHAM APARTMENTS ABOUT REALLY WORKING ON, UM, UP, BEEFING UP THE SECURITY IN THE AREA FOR OUR SENIORS.
SO IF WE COULD JUST WORK ON THAT.
'CAUSE I WANNA BE ABLE TO BRING IN NEW DEVELOPMENT AND, AND AM SO HAPPY WITH WHO YOU SERVE, BUT MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE FEEL SAFE WHEN THEY COME IN.
AND THE OTHER IS, I THINK WE ALSO, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UM, OPPORTUNITY HOME SAN ANTONIO, YOUR, YOUR EXPECTATIONS FOR THOSE, UM, THAT ARE ON THAT WAITING LIST AND, UM, AND THE EXPECTATIONS OF THAT.
THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE THE CRIMINAL RECORDS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THEN ALSO THE EXPECTATIONS FOR THE LANDLORDS, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GONNA TRY AND PUSH A 80 80, UH, ASSISTED ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, WHAT EXPECTATIONS YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE FOR THOSE USING VOUCHERS TO LIVE IN THOSE, I THINK WE NEED TO SET THOSE EXPECTATIONS, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.
AND THEN IS IT POSSIBLE ON SLIDE 20 AND 21 FOR YOU TO GIVE US DATA ABOUT HOW MANY OF THAT ONE IN 17 OR 93% HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD IS WOMEN? BECAUSE I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT INFORMATION.
BECAUSE I, I THINK AS WE LOOK AT THE STATUS OF WOMEN, WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT AND RECOGNIZE JUST HOW OPPORTUNITY HOME SAN ANTONIO IS SERVING WOMEN, SERVING WOMEN HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD, WHO ARE STRUGGLING TO GET OUT OF POVERTY, BUT HAVE A HARD TIME BECAUSE THINGS DON'T KIND OF MATCH UP AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS IT CHILDCARE THAT'S NEEDED, IS IT TRANSPORTATION? THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE, UH, IN TERMS OF QUESTIONS, BUT THANK YOU MARK FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
I LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING MORE UPDATES.
I THINK IF WE, WE CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER AND DON'T TACKLE THIS IN SILOS, WE CAN GET THIS DONE, I THINK PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, WHICH, YOU KNOW, AND I WAS PLEASED TO SEE, UM, THE OTHER GROUPS INCLUDE THAT IN THERE IS GOING TO BE KEY AND WE NEED TO, UM, REALLY WORK ON HOW WE PRESENT THAT TO THE COMMUNITY AND HOW IT'S GOING TO HELP YOU.
COMPLETELY AGREE, COUNCILWOMAN.
WE'LL GO OVER TO COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO DRESSED AS HER TWIN TODAY.
UH, I WAS GOING TO WEAR A SAILOR'S HAT.
JUSTIN MENTIONED THAT HE HAD IT AND HE'S LIKE, WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THE SHIP.
UH, AND I WAS LIKE, YEAH, SOME FOLKS MAY FIND IT SCARY THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTING THE PIECES OF THE SHIP, UM,
SO THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE GOAL.
UM, BUT, UH, THANK YOU MARK FOR THE PRESENTATION, UH, AND TIM, UH, AND FOR BRIEFING US AND GIVING US AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE'VE BEEN, THERE'S A COUPLE OF KEY PIECES IN THE PRESENTATION THAT I WAS REALLY PLEASED TO SEE.
UM, BUT I, I WANTED TO HONE IN ON, UH, OPERATION REBUILD, RIGHT? I KNOW, UM, N H S D, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, GO OUT AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE FAMILY TO TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS PILOT PROGRAM.
AND I, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT RIGHT, WHAT MARK AND HIS TEAM RECOMMENDED WAS HAVING A SOCIAL WORKER WITHIN THAT PILOT PROGRAM.
AND WHEN I WENT OUT AND SPOKE TO THE FAMILY, RIGHT, THEY REALLY EMPHASIZED THAT PIECE.
AND IT WAS SO GREAT LISTENING TO LIZ AND HER PERSPECTIVE AND HOW SHE NAVIGATED THAT.
UM, BUT JUST ADDING THAT HUMAN COMPONENT, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, RIGHT? NOT JUST THE HOME ITSELF, BUT THAT LIKE FAMILY, UH, FOUNDATION AS WELL, AND CONNECTING FOLKS TO READY TO WORK OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, UH, WAS, UH, REALLY, UH, EYE-OPENING TO HEAR AND, AND TO, TO SEE THE, THE FAMILY, RIGHT? UM, I GOT EMOTIONAL WHEN I WENT OUT THERE AND WAS SPEAKING TO THE FAMILY, AND THEY'RE SHARING ABOUT LIKE THE STORIES AND THE IMPORTANCE OF KEEPING THAT HOUSE IN THE FAMILY.
UM, AND I GUESS SHIFTING TO HOMEOWNER REHAB AND HOUSING REHAB, RIGHT? I'M REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THIS COHORT OF CITY COUNCIL FOR MAKING A HISTORIC INVESTMENT IN HOMEOWNER REHAB, UM, HIGHER AMOUNTS THAN WE HAD SEEN PREVIOUSLY.
AND WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM COMMUNITY, RIGHT? WE UNDERSTAND, RIGHT? THERE'S LIMITED FUNDS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THERE'S ALSO SOME RED TAPE, RIGHT? AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO PRIORITIZE A TITLE CLEARANCE.
UM, BUT WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM SOME OF OUR FAMILIES IS, YOU KNOW, UM, BACK TAXES, RIGHT? IS WHY THEY'RE BEING DISQUALIFIED, UH, AND OR, UH, NOT HAVING A CLEAR TITLE.
SO MY HOPE IS THAT WE CAN WORK ON SOME OF THOSE PIECES TO ENSURE THAT THOSE FAMILIES WHO ARE LOOKING FOR ASSISTANCE, UM, BUT MAY HAVE, UM, ISSUES WITH BACK TAXES OR UNCLEAR TITLES THAT WE'RE ALSO SUPPORTING THEM AS WELL TO ACCESS THESE PROGRAMS.
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UH, ONE THING, I, I WROTE A WHOLE BUNCH OF NOTES AND I'M STRUGGLING TO READ MY OWN WRITING.I HAVE COMMUNITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATIONS.
SO, UM, I'M PLEASED TO SEE ON THE SLIDE FOR OUR STATE AGENDA, I BELIEVE IT'S THE SLIDE WITH ALL OF OUR GOALS.
UH, IT, IT MENTIONS, LET ME FIND IT.
SLIDE FIVE, RIGHT? IT MENTIONS ADVOCATE FOR, UH, TAX RELIEF, SMALL UNIT, MULTI-FAMILY.
DO WE KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATIONS WHO ALREADY RECEIVE, UH, 50%, UH, TAX ABATEMENTS? WELL, WE DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT.
I MEAN, COUNCILWOMAN, I THINK IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT POTENTIALLY HAPPENS AT THE SESSION ITSELF.
I WAS ACTUALLY IN HOUSTON, UH, ON FRIDAY, AND THEY DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.
SO, UM, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ON OUR RADAR AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON IT TO SEE WHAT IMPACT IT HAS, PLUS OR MINUS.
AND, UH, ROBERT, I'M REALLY PLEASED ON YOUR PRESENTATION, RIGHT? YOU MENTIONED THAT THE WORK OF THE BEXAR COUNTY HOUSING AUTHORITY IS TO MEET THOSE NEEDS, UM, FOR FAMILIES THAT, PARTICULARLY THE MARKET DOESN'T, UM, HELP SUPPORT.
UH, AND I THINK THE PRESENTATION WITH OPPORTUNITY HOME IN BEX COUNTY, UM, THANK YOU, N H E S D OR WHOEVER RECOMMENDED THAT BOTH OF OUR PARTNERS OR LORI, UH, FOR HAVING BOTH OF 'EM PRESENT, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT BEXAR COUNTY HOUSING AUTHORITY AND OPPORTUNITY HOME ARE MEETING THAT GAP.
UH, WE HAVE PLENTY OF CONVERSATIONS WITH MANY OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, RIGHT? WHERE THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT HOMELESSNESS AND WHERE ARE WE AT WITH PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND, UH, HAVEN FOR HOPE, BUT ALSO RECOGNIZING THAT THAT'S NOT THE END ALL BE ALL.
WE WANNA ENSURE THAT THOSE FAMILIES THAT ARE IN PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRANSITION INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
RIGHT? THE GOAL ISN'T TO KEEP THEM AT HAVEN, IT'S TO MOVE INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, I'LL CHIME BACK IN IN A BIT.
WE'LL GO ON TO COUNCILMAN COURAGE, WHO'S DISGUISED AS A REFLECTION OF HIMSELF,
WELL, UH, LET ME START OFF, UH, MARK BY, UM, BRINGING UP, UH, SLIDE NUMBER FOUR, AND THERE WAS A REFERENCE IN HERE ON PIPELINE UNITS, AND IT, IT KIND OF SURPRISED ME WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT 11,480 WHEN WE HAD A TARGET OF 14,000 OVER 10 YEARS.
UH, IS, IS THERE A LITTLE MORE IN DEPTH ANALYSIS OF WHAT THOSE ARE? WE SAY A PIPELINE, SOMETIMES A PIPELINE IS, SOMEBODY HAS SUBMITTED A PROPOSAL, BUT A LOT OF PROPOSALS THAT COME TO, UH, THE CITY IN PARTICULARLY, UH, TO THE CENTER HOUSING TRUST, THEY FALL THROUGH LATER ON DOWN THE LINE.
MAYBE THEY DON'T GET THE STATE FUNDING THROUGH LITECH OR RIGHT NOW WE'VE HAD SOME FALL THROUGH BECAUSE OF INTEREST RATES GOING UP AND, AND THE DELAY IN, UH, SUPPLIES THEY NEED, ET CETERA.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU, WHEN WE FORECAST SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I WONDER HOW MISLEADING IT IS FROM THE ACTUALITY OF WHAT WE MAY SEE DOWN THE LINE.
AND SO I THINK IT'D BE INTERESTING TO GET A BETTER DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THAT PIPELINE REALLY LOOKS LIKE.
SO, SO, SO I CAN TELL YOU, AND, AND, UM, SARAH, IF YOU WANNA PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THIS, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE'RE IDENTIFYING NOW THE ACTUAL PROJECTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED.
AND, AND AS MENTIONED IN THE BOTTOM, IF IT'S RECEIVED SUPPORT FROM THE CITY OR ONE OF OUR PARTNERS, IT'S, IT REMAINS IN THE PIPELINE UNTIL COMPLETION OR IF ANOTHER ISSUE COMES UP.
SO, AND THE OTHER THING WE'RE LOOKING THAT I'M INTERESTED IN COUNCIL, UM, AND, AND MAYBE THIS IS PART OF YOUR QUESTION, IS WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME OVER WHICH, YOU KNOW, THESE PROJECTS WILL BE COMPLETED? UM, WHEN YOU THINK OF IT IN THAT, THOSE TERMS, THEY COULD BE LONGER TERM PROJECTS THAT ARE JUST BREAKING DIRT RIGHT NOW MM-HMM.
UH, BUT WE'RE BEGINNING TO BREAK THAT DOWN A A LITTLE BIT MORE IN TERMS OF, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE FOCUSING ON.
I GUESS WHAT I'D LIKE YOU TO DO IS, IS SAY, WHAT ARE THE PROJECTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE FUNDED RIGHT? AND THAT ARE READY TO START CONSTRUCTION IN THE NEXT THREE TO SIX MONTHS.
THOSE ARE THE HARDCORE NUMBERS THAT I, I THINK, GIVE ME HOPE.
UH, ALL OF THE OTHERS ARE SPECULATION UNTIL THEY GET TO THAT POINT WHERE THEY GET THE FUNDING AND THEY'RE READY TO START BUILDING.
AND COUNCILMAN, I WANNA ADD, IF IT'S IN THE PIPELINE, IT'S FUNDED, IT JUST HASN'T STARTED CONSTRUCTION, RIGHT? SO IF IT'S IN THE PIPELINE, WE ARE COUNTING IT AS A PROJECT THAT HAS THE FINANCING TOGETHER.
THEY'RE JUST WAITING TO START CONSTRUCTION.
BUT WHAT WE WILL DO IS WE'RE GONNA BE DOING QUARTERLY REPORTS MM-HMM.
AND SO JANUARY, WE WILL HAVE THE FIRST QUARTER
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FOR THIS BUDGET YEAR, AND IT'LL HAVE EVERY PROJECT MM-HMM.AND WE CAN EVEN BREAK IT DOWN BY COUNCIL DISTRICT LIKE WE DID, UM, BEFORE THE BUDGET STARTED.
THAT GIVES ME MORE CONFIDENCE.
AND IT DON'T GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION, BUT WE DON'T COUNT IT RIGHT.
UM, BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THESE ARE SOLID NUMBERS.
SO IF IT STARTED, THE PROJECT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, BUT IF IT'S IN THE PIPELINE, IT CITY COUNCIL HAS APPROVED IT AND THE FINANCING IS MOVING FORWARD.
UH, ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE, UH, WAS ABOUT THE ADU.
I THINK THAT'S, UH, SLIDE EIGHT.
UH, ONE OF, I'M WONDERING IF THERE ISN'T A WAY TO GIVE MORE ENCOURAGEMENT TO EXISTING PROPERTIES THAT MAY NEED SOME MAJOR BUT MORE OR LESS MINOR WORK IN ORDER TO GO AHEAD AND, AND TURN THAT EXISTING INTO SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S LIVABLE AND THAT'S USABLE.
AND I'M WONDERING IF THERE AREN'T A WAY OF GIVING SOME KIND OF INCENTIVES.
BECAUSE, UH, WHEN I THINK I, I'M, I, I'VE WORKED ALL OVER TOWN AND I KNOW THERE'S SOME AREAS WHERE THERE'S A, A GARAGE APARTMENT IN THE BACK, UH, BUT IT WOULDN'T PASS CITY STANDARDS TODAY.
BUT WITH 15 OR $20,000 IT MIGHT, UH, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO OWN THE HOMES DON'T HAVE 15 OR $20,000 TO UPGRADE.
UH, AND, AND SO I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S A WAY OF DEVELOPING INCENTIVES TO HELP, UH, MOVE FORWARD ALL OF THOSE THAT ARE PRE-EXISTING, BUT NEED WORK.
AND, AND I'LL ADD THAT COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, THE, IN THE SHIP WE TALK ABOUT DOING AN INCENTIVE TOOLKIT FOR ADUS, AND SO WE COULD POTENTIALLY PROVIDE TAX REBATES ON CITY TAXES, PROVIDED THEY RENT THAT TO SOMEBODY WITHIN A CERTAIN A M I CATEGORY.
AND THEN THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO DO THE CODE CHECK TO MAKE SURE IT'S UP TO PAR.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'LL BE COMING BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE.
FIRST STEP WAS GETTING THE U D C AMENDMENTS THROUGH, SO WE KNOW WE ACTUALLY CAN DO THE ADUS AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK WITH THIS TOOLKIT AND COUNCIL, THAT'S GOOD THAT, THAT'S PART OF WHAT'S BUILT INTO THE PILOT THAT LISTED DOING WITH THOSE TWO NONPROFITS.
SO IT'S INCENTIVES, IT'S EDUCATION, WHICH IS I HEARD YOU SAY AS WELL, BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET WORD OUT TO PEOPLE TO SAY THIS IS, THIS COULD BE A POSSIBILITY FOR YOU AND IT MAY NOT BE AS MUCH AS YOU REALIZE.
AND THERE'S ASSISTANCE IF I'M HEARING YOU RIGHT.
I'D LIKE TO CHIME BACK IN A MINUTE.
AND I'LL, I'LL CHIME BACK IN ON MY NEXT DOOR AND I WAS GONNA FOCUS ON SOME MORE QUESTIONS FOR OPPORTUNITY HOME, AND THEN WE'LL GO TO COUNCILMAN CASTILLO THEN COUNCILMAN COURAGE.
UM, CAN YOU TELL ME, JUST REMIND ME HOW MANY MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES YOU ALL MAINTAIN AND THEN WHILE YOU'RE COMING UP, HOW MANY OF THOSE WOULD YOU SAY NEED REPAIRS OR UPGRADES? SO I'M GONNA LOOK AT MY, MY, MY CHEAT SHEET HERE, BUT, UM, WE HAVE, UM, AROUND 12,000 UNITS THAT ARE EITHER, UM, THROUGH OUR PARTNERSHIPS OR THROUGH OUR AFFILIATED ENTITY.
UM, WHAT'S IT CALLED AGAIN? UH, BEACON B BEACON COMMUNITIES.
AND SO THE, SO WE HAVE THOSE DEVELOPMENTS AND WE THEN WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS AS, AS WELL, AND YOU REMEMBER HOW MANY UNITS THOSE ARE? 6,000, 6,000 PUBLIC HOUSING UNITS OR DEVELOPMENTS OR UNITS.
WE HAVE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE OF OVER $500 MILLION.
SO, UM, HOW MANY OF 'EM NEED FUNDING?
WE JUST WENT THROUGH OUR BOND, UM, R F P PROCESS AND WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE.
UM, ACTUALLY WE'LL BE GOING TO A B SESSION FOR THE ENTIRE COMMITTEE, AND WE WILL BE MAKING ANNOUNCEMENTS ON THAT.
THEY CAN POTENTIALLY, UM, RECEIVE.
UM, AND THEN ED, I'LL LET YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON.
SO WE, WE ARE DOING A NUMBER OF THINGS.
IN SOME CASES WHAT WE'RE DOING IS LOOKING AT WAY THE WAYS THE, UH, PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS STRUCTURED AND FUNDED AND CHANGING THAT TO ANOTHER STRUCTURE.
AND THAT CAN PROVIDE EITHER ADDITIONAL FUNDING THROUGH FINANCING OR THROUGH EQUITY.
UM, AND WE'VE DONE BOTH OF THOSE IN THE RECENT PAST.
UH, WE'RE ALSO DOING, FOR THE NEW PROJECTS, WE'RE DOING QUITE A BIT MORE SELF-DEVELOPMENT.
UM, SO ANY NEW PROJECTS WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE HAVE A 9% TAX CREDIT, UH, AWARD THAT IS IN THE MEDICAL CENTER, AND WE ARE SELF-DEVELOPING THAT PROJECT.
UM, AND SO THERE'S DIFFERENT MECHANISMS LIKE THAT.
WE ALSO HAVE SOME INTERNAL FUNDING THAT WE'RE ALLOCATING TO REPAIRS.
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UM, AND THEN AS, UH, LAURA HOUSTON HAS MENTIONED, WE HAVE SUBMITTED MULTIPLE APPLICATIONS, UM, TO THE, TO THE BOND FUND.AND THEN ALSO, DO YOU ALL HAVE A SYSTEM, UM, WHEREBY YOU REFER VOUCHER HOLDERS TO APARTMENT COMPLEXES? AND THE REASON THAT I'M ASKING IS MY OFFICE HAS RECEIVED SEVERAL CALLS, UM, WHEN APARTMENT COMPLEXES CHOOSE NOT TO RENEW, UM, THE, THE LEASES.
AND SO, UM, I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF MY RESIDENTS ARE KIND OF OUT ON THEIR OWN, RIGHT? THEY HAVE TO FIND AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, AND I LITERALLY HAVE MY CONSTITUENT SERVICES DIRECTOR, JOHANNI HERNANDEZ DOES A GREAT JOB, AND SHE ACTUALLY CALLS ALL OF THESE.
SHE HAS A LIST, RIGHT? OF ALL OF THE APARTMENTS IN THE AREA, AND SHE HELPS CALL.
BUT DO YOU ALL HAVE A SYSTEM, UM, OR ARE YOU ALL WORKING ON SOME SYSTEM THAT MIGHT HELP THAT? SO THERE, WE, WE ARE NOT ALLOWED BY HUD TO REFER PEOPLE DIRECTLY TO APARTMENT COMPLEXES BECAUSE, UH, THEY CONSIDER THAT TO BE STEERING, UH, RESIDENTS TO A CERTAIN, UM, OUTCOME.
SO WHAT WE DO IS WE PROVIDE A SOFTWARE SYSTEM WHERE PEOPLE CAN SEARCH FOR AVAILABLE UNITS.
BUT I, I THINK THAT'S ONE OTHER IMPORTANT POINT YOU BROUGHT UP, COUNCILWOMAN, THAT THERE ARE CORPORATE LANDLORDS THAT ARE COMING TO, TO TOWN AND HEDGE FUNDS MM-HMM.
UM, YOU MAY HAVE READ THAT IN SAN ANTONIO, 50% OF THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES SOLD IN THE LAST YEAR WERE SOLD TO CORPORATE BUYERS.
SO CONSEQUENCE OF THAT IS THAT THEY'RE PUSHING OUT VOUCHER HOLDERS AND LOWER INCOME INDIVIDUALS IN MANY CASES.
AND, UM, THIS IS A PROBLEM BECAUSE IT, IT REALLY STARTED AFTER THE LAST, UH, DOWNTURN.
UH, AND IT'S CALLED THE FINANCIALIZATION OF HOUSING.
AND IT'S REALLY BEING, UH, DONE BY WALL STREET.
IT'S WALL STREET INVESTMENT FIRMS COMING IN TO DO THIS.
AND OF COURSE, UM, THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE RESIDENTS AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A, A PRIMARY FOCUS ON MONETIZING THE PROPERTIES.
UM, AND YES, AND SO WE'VE, WE'VE SEEN THAT IN THE NEWS.
UNFORTUNATE, RIGHT? AND, UM, AND I'M, I'M HOPING THAT, AND I KNOW VERONICA HAS TALKED ABOUT A, A SYSTEM OVER ON THE CITY SIDE, SO MAYBE OF YOU ALL, UH, CAN'T REFER THEM.
LIKE I SAID, MY, MY OFFICE LITERALLY GOES THROUGH, THROUGH CALLS RIGHT THROUGH THIS JUST LITTLE SPREADSHEET THAT WE HAVE CREATED ON OUR OWN.
AND THEN THAT'S, THAT'S ALL OF MY QUESTIONS.
AND I, I DID FORGET TO, TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE HOUSING TRUST, AND I DO THINK THAT THE HOUSING TRUST IS, UH, I'VE CALLED IT A LABORATORY OF INNOVATION.
UM, I ALSO AM PLEASED THAT OUR COLLEAGUES DECIDED TO ADD A FUND, A FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION TO THE CORPUS, UH, IN SEPTEMBER.
SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO INVEST IN EDWARD.
PETE, REALLY JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING, AND, UH, SPECIFICALLY ON THE FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN.
WE'LL GO ON TO COUNCILMAN CASTILLO THEN.
CHAIR ON, UH, THE SAME ISSUE OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE FOR OPPORTUNITY HOME.
UH, IS THERE OPPORTUNITY, LORI, FOR SOME OF THAT DEFOR DEFERRED? I'M THINKING OF LIKE THE FISCAL YEAR 2024, RIGHT? IS THERE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO HELP SUPPORT, UH, WITH SOME OF THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE? AND DO YOU HAVE LIKE AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THAT COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE? N NOT RIGHT NOW, HOWEVER, THAT IS AN ELIGIBLE USE IN ONE OF THE BOND CATEGORIES FOR JUST MAJOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH COULD ADDRESS DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.
AND I DO WANNA REMIND THIS COUNCIL THAT I THINK YOU ALL RECOMMENDED THIS, THAT WE DO TWO AWARDS, ONE IN THE FALL AND ONE IN THE SPRING.
AND SO IF THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT WEREN'T SELECTED IN THE FALL, THERE'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY IN THE SPRING.
MARK, WITH THE, THE LAND TITLE REMEDIATION, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE? IS THAT, UH, THE CONTINUING THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE MEXICAN AMERICAN UNITY COUNCIL, OR, OR WHAT DO YOU ENVISION WITH THE LAND TITLE REMEDIATION? WELL, I THINK WE NEED MORE OF IT, AND WE, I THINK WE NEED PARTNERS, YOU KNOW, TO EXTEND OUR REACH.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE R F P THAT WE'LL WORK ON THAT WE THINK WILL BE OUT AT, AT THE END OF THIS YEAR WILL REALLY FOCUS ON HOW CAN WE EXPAND MORE OF THAT.
SO WHAT WE DID WITH THE MEXICAN AMERICAN UNITY COUNCIL, I THINK GAVE US A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION, BUT WE NEED MORE OF THAT.
UH, WE NEED SALSA, WE NEED OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, YOU KNOW, AND, AND EITHER OTHER, OTHER COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE CLOSER TO MAYBE FAMILIES MM-HMM.
SO I THINK WE'LL CONSIDER ALL OF THAT AS WE PUT TOGETHER THE R F P FOR THIS A HUNDRED THOUSAND THAT YOU ALL APPROVED IN THE BUDGET.
THANK, MY QUESTIONS ARE GONNA BE AROUND, UH, OPPORTUNITY HOME.
UM, AND I'LL START WITH A, UH, DISCUSSION ABOUT THE VOUCHERS.
AND THE REASON WHY I'LL START WITH THAT IS I, I HEARD MARK MENTION
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THAT THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN FUNDING FOR VOUCHERS.UH, HUD JUST, I GUESS, RAISED, UH, THEIR ESTIMATE ON, ON HOUSING COSTS.
AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO THE VOUCHERS THAT YOU GIVE, UH, TO THE PEOPLE IN THE HOUSING PROGRAM? SO THIS YEAR WE DID RAISE THE FUNDING LEVEL, UM, ON VOUCHERS, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.
WE RAISED IT, UH, TO WHAT IS CALLED 100 AND PER 110% OF THE PAYMENT STANDARDS.
SO 110% OF THE RATES THAT HUD STATES.
UM, SO WE'RE OVER THE HUD RATES.
UM, HUD WILL BE RAISING IT AGAIN THIS MONTH, AND WE'VE SEEN, WE'VE SEEN ANOTHER INCREASE.
AND, UM, THE FUNDING THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THAT IS TYPICALLY NOT, UH, ALLOCATED UNTIL THE FOLLOWING, UH, CALENDAR YEAR.
SO, AND WE HAVEN'T, UH, AT THIS POINT, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GOVERNMENT HAS NOT FUNDED THE DEPARTMENTS THAT'S GOING BACK TO CONGRESS AND THE SENATE IN DECEMBER, I BELIEVE.
SO WE'LL KNOW MORE ABOUT THE ACTUAL FUNDING LEVELS.
SO WE'RE COMMITTED TO KEEPING ABREAST OF THE MARKET.
AS, YOU KNOW, MARKET RATES, MARKET RATES ARE FOR, RENTS ARE INCREASING VERY RAPIDLY, UM, IN SAN ANTONIO AND OTHER LARGE CITIES.
UM, AND SO, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL TRY TO MAINTAIN A HUNDRED TO 110% OF OUR PAYMENT STANDARDS.
H HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ON VOUCHERS THROUGH OPPORTUNITY HOME? THERE'S A, WE, WE HAVE 13,000 VOUCHERS ALLOCATED.
WE HAVE CLOSE TO, UM, 12,000, UH, PEOPLE ON VOUCHERS CURRENTLY.
BUT I HEARD THAT THE WAITING LIST IS 86,000.
THAT INCLUDES PEOPLE, MULTIPLE WAITING LISTS.
UH, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HOUSING WAITING LIST THAT IS ABOUT 55,000 PEOPLE.
WE HAVE A SECTION EIGHT VOUCHER WAITING LIST THAT'S CLOSE TO ANOTHER 12,000 PEOPLE.
AND THEN WE HAVE OTHER PROPERTY BASED WAITING LISTS, UM, THAT ARE PROJECT BASED THAT ALSO HAVE ADDITIONAL.
AND, AND WITH THE WAITING LIST FOR PEOPLE WHO WANNA LIVE IN THE COURTS OR SOME OTHER, YOU KNOW, SUBSIDIZED HOUSING THAT YOU, YOU OWN AND MANAGE, UH, I GUESS A QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS, IF THERE'S X AMOUNT OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE LIVING IN THERE TODAY, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU DO TO TRY AND HELP PEOPLE MOVE UP AND OUT SO THAT THERE'S ROOM FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S LIVING AT LESS THAN 30% A M I? UH, WHAT KIND OF SUPPORT, WHAT KIND OF INCENTIVES OR WHATEVER IT IS, BECAUSE HONESTLY, I'VE, I'VE HEARD THAT THERE ARE GENERATIONS OF FAMILIES WHO CONTINUE TO LIVE IN, IN THOSE, UH, AREAS IN MANY OF THE COURTS AREAS.
AND IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT ISN'T THE INTENT OF PUBLIC HOUSING, BUT, UH, OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE NEED TO HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE THAT THEY CAN AFFORD.
SO I WAS JUST WONDERING, HOW DO WE HELP PEOPLE MOVE UP? IS DO YOU CONSIDER THAT PART OF YOUR LONG-TERM RESPONSIBILITY? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
SO, UH, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A MYTH AROUND PUBLIC HOUSING THAT PEOPLE STAY IN IT FOR MANY GENERATIONS.
THAT'S ABSOLUTELY NOT THE CASE.
UH, THE AVERAGE RESIDENT WE HAVE THAT'S A SENIOR DISABLED INDIVIDUAL IS ON THE PROGRAM FOR ABOUT SEVEN YEARS MM-HMM.
UH, SO THAT THERE IS A BIT OF A MYTH, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH MM-HMM.
UM, SO WHAT WE DO, HALF OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE ELDERLY OR, OR DISABLED, OKAY.
SO, UM, THEY'RE GOING TO BE ON THE PROGRAM LONGER AND, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY ARE IN THEIR LIFE, RIGHT? THE OTHER HALF ARE FAMILIES, AND WE DO HAVE VARIOUS TYPES OF SERVICES AND, UH, SUPPORT THAT WE OFFER.
UH, WE, WE VIEW OUR ROLE IN LIFE AS IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR RESIDENTS.
SO THAT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE JOB TRAINING, ASSISTANCE WITH GETTING GEDS IF THEY DON'T HAVE ONE.
UM, WE'RE WORKING ON A CHILDCARE PROJECT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE CHILDCARE FOR OUR RESIDENTS, UM, SO THAT THEY CAN, UH, HAVE THE TIME TO GO TO JOBS AND OTHER THINGS OF THAT SORT.
MANY OF OUR PARENTS ARE, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSEHOLDS.
UH, MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE WOMEN, UH, AND, UH, THERE'S CHILDCARE ISSUES THROUGH THE ENTIRE, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, POPULATION.
SO, SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS THAT WE, WE SEE.
UM, WE ARE ASSISTING WITH JOB TRAINING, FOR EXAMPLE, AND OTHER PROGRAMS. WE'RE TEACHING FINANCIAL LITERACY.
WE ALSO TEACH COMPUTER SKILLS.
UM, AND SO THOSE SOURCE SERVICES ARE HAPPENING.
WE, OURSELVES ARE COMMITTING ABOUT TWO HUN $2 MILLION A YEAR TO THOSE TYPES OF SUPPORT SERVICES.
HUD PROVIDES ABOUT ANOTHER $2 MILLION A YEAR.
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SO, SO THERE'S AN EXTENSIVE SUPPORT NETWORK OF ABOUT, UH, 45, 50 PEOPLE IN THE DEPARTMENT WORKING TO SUPPORT OUR RESIDENTS.AND THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH AGAIN FOR THE PRESENTATION AND TO ALL THE STAFF THAT, THAT WORKED TO BRING ALL THE PARTNERS TOGETHER.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, THAT, WHICH IS A BRIEFING ON POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING PROGRAM, POLICY UPDATES, LOY, UM, BEFORE I PASS IT ON TO IAN BENAVIDES, UM, THIS IS AN ITEM WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR ALMOST A YEAR NOW.
UM, WE JUST FINISHED, UM, SOME PUBLIC, UM, INPUT.
WE WANNA SHARE THAT WITH YOU ALL TODAY.
WE PLAN ON COMING BACK ONE MORE TIME.
UM, WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE DOING SOME INDIVIDUAL BRIEFINGS AS WELL.
UM, AND WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU ALL INDIVIDUALLY BEFORE WE COME BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE FOR APPROVAL TO GO FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL APPROVAL.
ALRIGHT, GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
I'M THE INTERIM DEPUTY DIRECTOR WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
SO, AS A REAL QUICK WAY OF BACKGROUND, AS LORI SAID, WE'VE BEEN, UH, WORKING ON THIS POLICY UPDATE FOR A WHILE.
UM, THE POLICY THAT WE CURRENTLY UTILIZE WAS ADOPTED IN 2015.
UM, WE'VE RECEIVED COMMENTS, UM, SINCE I'VE BEEN OVERSEEING THE PROGRAM FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, THAT THE POLICY IS VERY LENGTHY AND DISJOINTED.
WE DO SPEND A LOT OF TIME, UM, WITH APPLICANTS EVEN EXPERIENCED ONES ON MAKING SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND ALL THE PROVISIONS WITHIN THERE.
UM, IT ALSO REFERS TO OUTDATED CITY PROGRAMS AND REQUIREMENTS.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE UPDATE THOSE, AND THEN WE NEEDED TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS FOR APPLICANTS.
SO RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT EXISTS IN THERE CURRENTLY, UM, HAS SOME STEPS THAT, UM, ADD MORE TIME TO THE APPROVAL PROCESS THAN NECESSARY.
SO, AS LORI SAID, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A WHILE.
UM, WE CAME TO P C D C BACK IN FEBRUARY.
WE PROVIDED A SUMMARY OF TAX INCREMENT FINANCING.
UM, WE CAME BACK IN MAY WITH SOME INITIAL BRIEFING ON THE POLICY.
AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING SINCE THEN IS STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK.
SO WE MET WITH A VARIETY OF COMMUNITY GROUPS AND STAKEHOLDERS, INCLUDING YOUR COUNCIL OFFICES, UM, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ISSUES, UM, THEIR COUNCIL, YOUR COUNCIL OFFICES MAY HAVE WITH IT OR YOUR CONSTITUENTS, UM, ISSUES THEY MAY HAVE BROUGHT UP TO YOU.
AND THEN, RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, SO WE'LL HAVE OUR FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE GONNA PRESENT TO YOU WHAT WE'VE HEARD, AND THEN AS LORI SAID, WE WILL COME BACK BEFORE WE GO TO CITY COUNCIL, UM, LIKELY IN DECEMBER OR JANUARY, DEPENDING ON THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVE.
SO I DON'T WANNA SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON THIS, BUT THE TIP POLICY, YOU KNOW, HOW IS IT USED? UM, THE TIP POLICY IS DIFFERENT THAN THE APPLICATION, BUT THEY ARE CONNECTED TO EACH OTHER.
SO THE FIRST THING THAT THE POLICY DOES IS IT REALLY SETS OUT THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE APPLICANTS.
SO THAT IS USED TO, UH, INFORM HOW THE APPLICATION IS WRITTEN, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S EASY TO NAVIGATE AND SUBMIT.
THE APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS ALSO INCLUDE ANY REPORTS, DISPLACEMENT IMPACT ASSESSMENTS, DOCUMENTATIONS, AND PROFORMA, UM, THAT APPLICANTS ARE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT WITH THEIR APPLICATION AND AGREEMENTS REQUIREMENTS.
SO THINGS LIKE INSURANCE, RESIDENT PROTECTIONS THAT ARE GONNA BE REQUIRED IF A PROJECT IS APPROVED.
I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO WHAT IS IT THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY IN ORDER TO SUBMIT THE APPLICATION OR ONGOING FEES? AND I'LL, I'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE IN A LITTLE BIT.
UM, SO WE DO RECEIVE QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS ON THIS.
UM, IF I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF TAX INCREMENT FINANCING, WHAT IS THEIR TIMEFRAME, UM, AND LINING IT UP WITH THEIR PROJECTS, WE WANNA MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR, UM, CREATION AND EXTENSION OF TUR.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN ASKED A LOT ABOUT HOW DO WE CREATE A NEW TURS.
UM, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF TOURS THAT ARE COMING UP ON THEIR SUNSET, SO HOW DO WE EXTEND THEM AND WHAT'S THE POLICY AROUND THAT? AND THEN BOARD APPOINTMENTS, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK MANY OF YOU, UM, EITHER WHO ARE PART OF A TOURS BOARD OR THE CHAIR OF A TOURS BOARD WORK WITH ON HOW WE MAKE, UH, BOARD APPOINTMENTS FOR THOSE.
SOME OF 'EM ARE DICTATED BY STATE STATUTE CHAPTER THREE 11.
UM, BUT WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH THE CITY, UH, CREATED TOURS.
AND THEN OUR GUIDELINE FOR PROJECT EVALUATION.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT VERY CLEAR IN THE OLD POLICY AND SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE MORE CLEAR.
UM, WHAT IS THE PROCESS BY WHICH STAFF REVIEWS THE PROJECT AND RECOMMENDS IT FOR APPROVAL? THE NEW PROCESS WILL ENSURE A COUPLE OF THINGS.
ONE, THAT IT IS ELIGIBLE IN CHAPTER THREE 11, WHICH ALLOWS US TO USE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING.
TWO, THAT ENSURES ALIGNMENT WITH CITY ADOPTED PLANS AND POLICIES AT A HIGH LEVEL.
UM, AND THEN THREE IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE REALLY STRESSING ON, IS THAT IT MEETS A TSS BOARD, INDIVIDUAL TS BOARD OBJECTIVES AND NEEDS FOR THAT PART OF THE CITY.
SO THOSE MAY BE ABOVE AND BEYOND, UM, WHAT'S IN THIS ADOPTED POLICY.
UM, BUT IT IS MEETING A NEED AT A CITY LEVEL THROUGH A CITY ADOPTED PO UH, PLAN OR POLICY.
UH, AND, AND WE CAN SHOW THAT ALIGNMENT AS STAFF.
SO THIS IS A VISUAL REPRESENTATION, ESSENTIALLY, OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
SO OUR TIF POLICY KIND OF LIVES IN THE MIDDLE OF, UM, FACILITATING PROJECTS THAT MEET CITY ADOPTED PLANS AND POLICIES.
SO THAT'S THE QUESTION WE ASK OURSELF.
DOES THE PROJECT MEET A CITY PRIORITY OR PLAN? UM, DOES IT MEET THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS IN CHAPTER THREE 11? UM, WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO ENSURE IT DOES.
UM, AND I'LL GO OVER ANOTHER SLIDE.
TIF FUNDING CAN BE VERY FLEXIBLE, UM, BUT WE DO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOW, UM, THE PARAMETERS OUTLINED IN THREE 11 AND THEN MORE ON A MICRO LEVEL, DOES IT MEET THE PROJECT BOARDS GOALS AND PRIORITIES? AND AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE
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STRESSING, UM, RIGHT NOW AND SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH A COUPLE OF BOARDS ON TO HELP IDENTIFY THOSE SPECIFIC TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE WITHIN THAT TTS.SO THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF HOW TIF FUNDING CAN BE USED.
AGAIN, IT IS, UM, PRETTY FLEXIBLE.
IT'S NOT INFINITELY FLEXIBLE BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE LIMITATIONS, BUT HERE'S SOME PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO UTILIZE TIF FUNDING FOR.
UM, THIS INCLUDES A SIGNIFICANT MARKERS PROJECT.
SO THAT'S A HISTORIC PROJECT, HISTORICAL PROJECT TO CREATE, UM, MARKERS WITHIN THE EAST SIDE, UM, WESTERN URBAN OPEN SPACE AND PINKERTON'S BARBECUE.
UM, SO THAT IS, YOU KNOW, CREATING GREEN SPACE PARKS AMENITIES, UM, BUT ALSO RELOCATING OR LOCATING A BUSINESS IN DOWNTOWN, IN DOWNTOWN AREA FOOD AND, UM, BEVERAGE GRANT RELIEF.
SO THIS WAS ECONOMIC HELP DURING C OVID 19 TO HELP OUR SMALL BUSINESSES.
UM, H V H C, UM, THAT'S VISIONWORKS.
UM, THAT WAS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM REALLY TO RELOCATE JOBS.
AND HEADQUARTERS VALLEY SOUL, THAT'S A SINGLE FAMILY NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, UM, WITH OVER, WITH NEARLY HALF THE HOMES BEING IN AN AFFORDABLE LEVEL, SUNSET STATION AND, AND COURTYARD AT ST.
PAUL SQUARE, THAT'S A HISTORIC RENOVATION.
AND THE CREATION OF COMMUNITY GREEN SPACE.
SO THAT'S A, AN AN EXCELLENT PROJECT.
MUSEUM REACH LOFTS, UM, UH, IS A 94 MULTI-FAMILY, 9% HOUSING TAX CREDIT, AFFORDABLE PROJECT, UM, THAT ALSO RECEIVED ADDITIONAL FINANCING FROM THE TERRACE.
UM, BUT THESE, THIS PAST YEAR WE'VE WORKED WITH THROUGH COUNCIL DIRECTION, UM, TO FUND A VARIETY OF INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS RANGING FROM STREETS TO FACILITIES TO BE FUNDED OUTTA THE TS.
UM, SO THERE'S A WIDE RANGE OF PROJECTS THAT TIF FUNDING CAN BE UTILIZED FOR.
AND I JUST BRING THAT UP BECAUSE PART OF OUR PROCESS OF GOING TO, UH, REACH OUT TO STAKEHOLDERS AND GET THEIR FEEDBACK, UM, WAS BECAUSE OF THE FLEXIBILITY.
THERE WAS A LOT OF PRIORITIES, UM, THAT WERE GIVEN OUT THERE.
AND SO FOR OUR POLICY, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE TRIED TO BALANCE THOSE, WE TRIED TO ALIGN THEM.
UM, BUT ANOTHER THING THAT WE HEARD, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT IN A SECOND, IS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY FOR THOSE TSS BOARDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PRESCRIPTIVE THAN THE OVERALL POLICY.
SO WE MET WITH CITY DEPARTMENTS.
UM, CITY DEPARTMENTS ARE OUR PARTNERS.
UM, WE UTILIZE THEIR EXPERTISE DEPENDENT ON THE PROJECT, UM, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND ENSURE THAT WE'RE COORDINATED, UM, MAYOR AND COUNCIL OFFICES.
UM, SO WE MET WITH YOUR OFFICES SEVERAL TIMES.
UM, COMMUNITY GROUPS, AFFORDABLE HOME BUILDERS, SINGLE FAMILY BUILDERS, DEVELOPERS AND NONPROFITS, UH, LEGAL REPRESENTATIVES, UM, WHO MAINLY REPRESENT, UM, THE DEVELOPERS OF THE PROJECTS, NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS.
AND THEN SOME OF OUR CURRENT TOUR BOARD MEMBERS.
SOME OF THE BEST FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE RECEIVED ARE FROM, YOU KNOW, EITHER COUNCIL MEMBERS OR TOURS BOARD MEMBERS THAT HAVE SERVED FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, UM, AND HAVE A LOT OF GOOD FEEDBACK ON THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW, UM, AND THINGS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IMPROVED.
SO THE FEEDBACK RECEIVED, LIKE I SAID, UM, WAS A LOT.
I TRIED TO SUMMARIZE THE MAIN POINTS ON THIS SLIDE.
UM, BUT THEY REALLY WANTED THESE FEW THINGS, UM, TO BE VERY CLEAR.
AND THAT WAS, UM, TO PROVIDE A CLEAR PROCESS ON THE CREATION OF NEW AND PETITION INITIATED T SO THAT WAS HARD TO FIND IN THE EXISTING POLICY.
UM, AND THE EXISTING POLICY REFERENCED THEM TO STATE CODE, WHICH IS NOT MUCH EASIER TO FIND INFORMATION ON.
SO WE WANTED TO BE VERY CLEAR IN OUR NEW POLICY, UM, TURDS BOARD MEMBER COMPOSITION AND APPOINTMENT PROCESS.
SO A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON, UM, HOWT BOARD MEMBERS ARE SELECTED, BALANCING THE T FLEXIBILITY WITH MEETING CITY PRIORITIES, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT I TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF CITY PRIORITIES, YOU KNOW, RANGING FROM, UM, HOMELESSNESS ALL THE WAY TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.
SO HOW DO YOU HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY FOR A TOUR BOARD TO RECOMMEND A PROJECT? TOURIST FUNDING SHOULD BE LEVERAGED.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HEARD AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL TOO, WHETHER IT'S TAX CREDITS OR PACE FUNDING.
UM, WHAT, WHAT OTHER FUNDING SOURCES ARE DEVELOPERS COMING TO THE TABLE WITH TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR FUNDING IS NOT THE ONLY FUNDING THAT'S BEING, UM, SOUGHT AFTER.
UM, TOUR BOARDS, AGAIN, SHOULD HAVE A KEY ROLE IN REVIEWING AND RECOMMENDING PRO PROJECTS AND A PROACTIVE APPROACH.
SO WHEN I TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE GOALS AND POLICIES AND A LITTLE BIT, UM, ONE OF THE TOUR BOARDS INNER CITY WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON ACTUALLY PUTTING OUT A PROACTIVE R F P BASED ON, UM, PROJECTS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
SO ADOPTING THOSE GOALS AND PRIORITIES ALLOWS THE BOARD, UM, TO HAVE THOSE, UM, OUT THERE SO THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN UNDERSTAND THE TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT T BOARD WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, THOSE GOALS AND PRIORITIES CAN BE UPDATED, UM, AS NEEDED, PROVIDING A FEE STRUCTURE THAT DOESN'T LIMIT SMALL SCALE DEVELOPERS AND NONPROFITS.
SO OUR TIFF UNIT IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND.
UM, THE, THE REVENUE THAT WE GENERATE THROUGH ADMINISTRATION OF THE TTS FUNDS HELPS SUSTAIN, UM, THE DIVISION.
SO MAKING SURE THAT WE ADJUST THE FEES, BUT WE DO DO NOT LIMIT SMALL SCALE DEVELOPERS AND NONPROFITS ALLOW A PROCESS TO REVIEW HOUSING BASED ON THE PROJECT TYPE LOCATION AND POTENTIAL NEGATIVE IMPACTS.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON, UH, OVER THE YEARS.
WHETHER IT'S EVERYTHING FROM THERE'S TOO MUCH, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN A PARTICULAR AREA OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN A PARTICULAR AREA, UH, MAY NOT BE TRANSIT ACCESSIBLE, UM, OR CLOSE TO AMENITIES WHERE IT SHOULD BE.
AND THEN ALSO TO UNDERSTAND POTENTIAL NEGATIVE IMPACTS, UH, PROJECTS ON EXISTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHIN THE AREA.
AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THE DISPLACEMENT IMPACT ASSESSMENT, PROVIDE LANGUAGE THAT PROTECTS
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WORKERS WORKING CONDITIONS AND PAY AND CONSIDER COMMUNITY BENEFITS SUCH AS PARKS, TRAILS, ARTS, BEAUTIFICATION, COMMUNITY SPACE, PLACEMAKING, DENSITY, UH, AND CONGESTION MITIGATION.SO OUR PROPOSED CHANGES FOLLOW THIS NEW OUTLINE.
UM, THE EXISTING POLICY, UM, WAS AGAIN, DISJOINTED, SO WE TRIED TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR.
UM, SO I'M GONNA WALK THROUGH THESE AREAS, BUT THEY GENERALLY ARE POLICY PURPOSE PROGRAM OBJECTIVES, THE REINVESTMENT ZONE TYPES, THE FEES, UM, THE FUNDING GUIDELINES, OUR REVIEW PROCESS, UM, THE CITY INITIATED TSS BOARDS AND PRIORITIES AND GOALS, OUR BOARD APPOINTMENT PROCESS, OUR FUNDING GUIDELINES FOR HOUSING, UM, OUR FUNDING, UH, GUIDELINES FOR SUSTAINABILITY, WHICH IS ANOTHER, UH, ITEM THAT WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT, UM, SPECIFICALLY AT COUNCIL AND APPLICATIONS FOR TIF FUNDING.
SO OUR PURPOSE, WE MAKE NO REAL MATERIAL CHANGE.
UM, IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY THERE, BUT WE DID UPDATE THE LANGUAGE SLIGHTLY.
SO WE JUST STATED THAT THE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING IS TO CURRENT DEVELOPMENT IN AREAS WHERE IT'S DESIRED, BUT NOT BEING PROVIDED BY TRADITIONAL MARKET MECHANISMS OR OTHER CITY INCENTIVES.
THROUGH TAX FINANCING, THE CITY INTENDS TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES IN ESTABLISHED AND CITY ADOPTED PLANS AND POLICIES AND OUR OBJECTIVES.
UM, THIS IS WHERE WE KIND OF UPDATE, UM, THE POLICY TO REFERENCE OUR MOST RECENT PLANS, FRAMEWORKS, AND PRIORITIES OF THE CITY.
UM, SO IT'S NOT ALL ENCOMPASSING ON THIS SLIDE, UM, BUT OUR STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN ESSAY TOMORROW, OUR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, OUR ECONOMIC FRAMEWORK THAT WAS JUST TAKEN TO COUNCIL RECENTLY.
UM, AND, UH, GENERAL IN, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE, LIKE CITY PROJECTS, HISTORIC PRESERVATIONS ARCS, UM, ET CETERA.
SO THIS IS NO REAL MATERIAL CHANGE, BUT WE DID CLEAN IT UP SO THAT, UM, APPLICANTS CAN CLEARLY SEE THAT THERE'S TWO TYPES OF TUR CITY INITIATED AND PETITION INITIATED, AND THERE'S A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT CITY INITIATED.
A ZONE IS CREATED AND PROJECTS ARE ABLE TO APPLY FOR FUNDING WITHIN THAT TURS.
AND THEN PETITION INITIATED IS FOR A PARTICULAR PROJECT.
UM, MOST OF THE PETITION INITIATED TS THAT COME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ARE FOR SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS, ALTHOUGH SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN MIXED USE THAT INCLUDE MULTIFAMILY.
UM, AND THEN OUR FUNDING GUIDELINES.
AND SO THIS IS STREAMLINING THIS PROCESS TO ENSURE THAT THE STANDARDS, UM, CAN BE USED FOR EACH PROJECT THAT THEY MEET THE TIF ACT.
THEY MEET THE OBJECTIVES OF A CITY ADOPTED PLANNER POLICY, THEIR ALIGNMENT WITH THE GOALS AND THE PRIORITIES OF THAT PARTICULAR BOARD, IF THEY'RE APPLYING FOR CITY INITIATED TOURIST FUNDING, HOUSING PROJECT REQUIREMENT, INCLUDING A MARKET ANALYSIS AND DISPLACEMENT IMPACT ASSESSMENT, INCLUDING LEVERAGE FUNDING AND COORDINATED WITH BEXAR COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND OTHER PARTICIPATING ENTITIES.
THIS IS NO MATERIAL CHANGE, BUT WE DID WANNA INCLUDE KIND OF A FLOW CHART SO THAT APPLICANTS UNDERSTOOD WHAT OUR PROCESS IS WHEN A PROJECT SUBMITS FOR FUNDING.
SO AFTER WE RECEIVE THE APPLICATION, WE REVIEW INTERNALLY, UM, WE LOOK AT OUR FINANCIAL ANALYSIS PROFORMAS AND OUR PROJECT FEASIBILITY WITH OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO UNDERSTAND THE ASK, UM, AND THE FUNDING BEING REQUESTED.
WE HAVE AN INTERNAL GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE.
THIS IS, UH, AN INTERNAL COMMITTEE WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND DEPARTMENTS THAT DEAL WITH TAX INCREMENT FINANCING PROJECTS, PLANNING DEPARTMENT, UH, C C D O FINANCE DEPARTMENT.
AND THEN, UH, OF COURSE OUR COUNCIL COMMITTEE.
SO, UH, WE'VE BEEN TAKING TAX INCREMENT FINANCE PROJECTS, SPECIFICALLY PETITION INITIATED THROUGH THIS COUNCIL COMMITTEE SO THAT IT'S AN ADDITIONAL REVIEW PROCESS.
AND THEN WE GO TO CITY COUNCIL FOR DESIGNATION, UM, FINANCE PLAN, PROJECT PLAN AND BOARD COMPOSITION.
AFTER THAT, WE NEGOTIATE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPER THAT TSS BOARD MEETS TO CONSIDER THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THE NEWLY FORMED TOURS BOARD.
AND THEN WE COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
SO IT IS A LONG PROCESS AND WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT APPLICANTS UNDERSTOOD THAT IF THEY ARE LOOKING TO CREATE A NEW PETITION INITIATED TSS, UM, THIS, THIS, UH, BOARD COMPOSITION IS DICTATED MORE BY CHAPTER THREE 11.
UM, THE BOARD MUST INCLUDE AT LEAST ONE, UH, APPOINTEE FROM EACH TAXING ENTITY PARTICIPATING IN THE TS, THE STATE SENATOR AND THE STATE REPRESENTATIVE WHOSE DISTRICT THE ZONE IS LOCATED IN FOR CITY INITIATED TURS.
AGAIN, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH THESE.
UM, THESE ARE USUALLY CREATED AS A RECOMMENDATION FROM A BOARD, FROM STAFF OR FROM CITY COUNCIL.
UM, STAFF WILL THEN DO THEIR REVIEW AND THEIR ANALYSIS OF A NEW PARTICIPATED TUR UMTS.
UM, WE'LL LOOK AGAIN AT THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS AND FEASIBILITY.
HOW MUCH INCREMENT COULD THAT TURS ACTUALLY GENERATE OVER TIME, AND DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO IMPLEMENT A TOURS IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA? UM, AND THEN WE WOULD GO TO OUR INTERNAL GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE AND THEN A COUNCIL COMMITTEE.
AND THEN FINALLY FOR CITY COUNCIL FOR DESIGNATION OF THE FINANCE PLAN AND THE BOARD COMPOSITION.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT BOARD COMPOSITION.
THEY'VE VARIED OVER THE YEARS.
TOURS HAVE BEEN CREATED, UM, YOU KNOW, OVER 15, 20 YEARS, UM, EACH ONE UNDER A DIFFERENT, UM, CITY COUNCIL LEADERSHIP IN OUR DIFFERENT SITUATIONS.
SO THERE'S NOT TOTAL CONSISTENCY.
SO WE'RE LOOKING IN THIS POLICY TO SOMEWHAT STANDARDIZE, UM, KEEP THEM FROM 11, UH, SEVEN TO 11 BOARD MEMBERS DEPENDENT ON THE T SIZE.
SO THEY'RE SMALLER TOUR AND LARGER TOURS.
UM, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT PARTICIPATING TAXING ENTITIES ARE PART OF THAT BOARD.
AND THE KEY, UH, WORD THERE IS PARTICIPATING AND THE CITY STAFF,
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UM, IF APPLICABLE, IF IT ALIGNS WITH THE TTS PURPOSE FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE FINANCE, OR THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE ALIGNED, AGAIN WITH THE PURPOSE OF THAT TS AND THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE RESIDENTS, PROPERTY OWNERS OR BUSINESS OWNERS WITHIN THAT BOUNDARY.WE ALSO WILL INCLUDE OUR FEE STRUCTURE.
UM, THERE'S NOT A TON OF CHANGES HERE OTHER THAN, UM, ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY.
UM, SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A $50,000, UM, REGARDLESS OF PROJECT SIZE FEE FOR PETITION INITIATED TURS, THAT IS DUE IN PAYABLE UPON PASSAGE OF THE ORDINANCE BY CITY COUNCIL.
BUT IT IS REIMBURSABLE THROUGH THAT TURS, UM, THE FUNDING THAT THATT GENERATES.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE ARE LOOKING TO ADD TWO NEW CATEGORIES.
SO IF A TS IS CREATED AND THEY WERE REQUESTING, UH, FUNDING UNDER $5,000, WE'D HAVE FLEXIBILITY TO LOWER THAT FEE.
OR BETWEEN 5,000 AND, UH, 5 MILLION AND $10 MILLION.
WE WOULD ALSO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL CATEGORY OF 25,000.
SO THIS JUST ALLOWS A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY DEPENDENT ON THE SIZE OF THE TOUR BEING PROPOSED.
OUR NONPROFIT ENTITIES, WE'RE GONNA ADD A SECTION TO ENSURE THAT IF THEY ARE MEETING AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING GOAL OR IF THEY'RE A NONPROFIT, THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO WAIVE OR REDUCE THAT FEE FOR THE TOURS ADMINISTRATION FEES.
UM, SO I SPOKE EARLIER THAT, UH, WE ARE AN ENTERPRISE FUND.
UM, WE'RE ABLE TO RECOUP OUR COSTS, UM, THROUGH AN ANNUAL TOURS ADMINISTRATION FEE.
UM, SO RIGHT NOW OUR CURRENT FEES DEPENDS ON THE, UM, DEGREE OF COMPLEXITY OF THE ASK.
SO WE HAVE LOW DEGREE, AVERAGE DEGREE, AND HIGH DEGREE.
SO WE ARE LOOKING TO SLIGHTLY ADJUST THOSE FEES FROM A HIGH DEGREE.
GOING FROM 120 TO 135, AVERAGE FROM 75 TO 90, AND FROM LOW TO 45 TO 50, I WILL SAY, UM, WE HAVE SEEN ABOUT A 400 INCREASE IN WHAT OUR, WHAT WE CALL, UM, PAYMENT REQUESTS.
SO THE WAY THE TS WORKS IS, UM, WE REIMBURSE YOU OVER TIME AND THROUGH THAT REIMBURSEMENT PROCESS, YOU SUBMIT US THE PAPERWORK FOR YOUR PROJECT MEETING A CERTAIN MILESTONE, AND THEN THE CITY REIMBURSES YOU.
UM, SO IF WE'RE GOING FROM 2015 TO 2021, WE'VE SEEN ABOUT A 400% INCREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF REQUESTS.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR FEES ARE KEEPING UP WITH THE INCREASED NUMBER OF AGREEMENTS THAT WE'RE HAVING TO MONITOR.
UM, BUT AGAIN, HAVING THAT FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO WAIVE THOSE FEES IF YOU'RE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS, UM, UM, GIVES US THE ABILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT NONPROFITS ARE NOT, UM, INCREASED, UM, BY A BURDENED COST.
WE ARE ADDING SOME NEW SECTIONS, SO APPLICATION FOR REVIEW PROCESS FOR THE TIF FUNDS.
THIS WILL BASICALLY OUTLINE, UM, HOW APPLICATIONS ARE REVIEWED.
SO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THAT FLOW CHART I SHOWED YOU EARLIER.
ALIGNMENT WITH CITY INITIATIVES AND TOURS, BOARD PRIORITIES AND GOALS.
SO WE'LL MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR.
WE'LL BE ABLE, UM, TO LINK THEM TO CITY, CITY UMTS BOARD BOARDS AND PRIORITIES DURING THE APPLICATION.
SO THEY'LL UNDERSTAND IF THEY'RE APPLYING FOR FUNDING WITHIN A CERTAIN TOURIST.
THAT TOURIST WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, UM, OR, UM, HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROJECTS.
SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SPECIFY.
WE WILL ALSO, UM, IN THIS POLICY BE ABLE TO STATE CLEARLY THAT WE'RE GONNA BE COORDINATING WITH DEPARTMENTS WHO ARE SUBJECT MATTER EX EXPERTISE DEPENDENT ON THE ASK, UM, TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
WE'RE MEETING THOSE GUIDELINES.
AND THEN TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY BOARD'S PROCESS FOR ADOPTING GOALS AND PRIORITIES IS WITHIN THE POLICY.
THEY CAN REVISE THOSE, UM, AND THEY AGAIN ALLOW FOR THAT PROACTIVE APPROACH.
AND THEN THE BOARD APPOINTMENT PROCESS, UM, THIS IS WHAT CURRENTLY EXISTS.
WE'RE JUST MAKING SURE THAT IT'S PUT INTO POLICY.
UM, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE ON THAT BOARD, UM, WILL BE ABLE TO ADVERTISE THEIR POSITIONS THROUGH THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK.
UM, WE WOULD VET THEM WITH OUR DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND THEN THEY WILL BE REFERRED TO CITY COUNCIL FOR
SO FOR HOUSING, WE ADDED A NEW SECTION SPECIFICALLY ON HOUSING, AND WE WANTED TO TOUCH ON SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE HEARD, UM, FROM COUNCIL, BUT ALSO FROM, UM, OUR, OUR STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK.
SO WE ARE GONNA REQUIRE A MARKET ANALYSIS TO SHOW THE NEED FOR THAT TYPE OF HOUSING IN THE AREA.
OFTENTIMES, THIS IS ALREADY DONE IF, UH, IF A DEVELOPER IS GETTING PRIVATE FINANCING, THE BANK WILL REQUIRE SOME KIND OF MARKET ANALYSIS TO SHOW THAT THE PROJECT IS SUSTAINABLE.
IF YOU ARE APPLYING FOR TAX CREDITS, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU ALSO ARE REQUIRED TO DO A MARKET ANALYSIS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO WE JUST WANNA SEE THAT SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE EXISTING SUPPLY OF HOUSING WITHIN THE AREA, THE COST, HOME OWNERSHIP OR RENTAL, THE EMPLOYMENT WAGES IN AN AREA, AND THE TYPES OF HOUSING.
SO WHETHER THEY'RE ALL RENTAL, ALL OWNERSHIP, MAYBE SOME ARE CONDOS, UM, WE'RE ABLE TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT SUB AREA SO THAT WE CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW THE REQUEST FITS IN.
WE'RE GONNA REQUIRE DISPLACEMENT IMPACT ASSESSMENT.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE PILOTING THAT RIGHT NOW WITH THE HOUSING BOND.
AND THAT REALLY LOOKS AT THE SURROUNDING AREA OF THE DEVELOPMENT, USING THE BEST AVAILABLE DATA TO UNDERSTAND HOW VULNERABLE THE SURROUNDING AREA MAY BE TO A NEW DEVELOPMENT.
UM, IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE, UH, BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND QUALIFY FOR ANY OF THE EXEMPTIONS, WE'RE GONNA ENSURE THAT YOU'RE ALIGNED WITH OUR DEFINITION OF AFFORDABLE
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HOUSING.SO WHETHER IT'S PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, UM, 60% OF THE AREA MEAN AN INCOME FOR RENTAL OR 120% A M I OR BELOW FOR HOME OWNERSHIP ALIGNMENT WITH SA TOMORROW AND LOCATION AND TYPE.
UM, SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, IS THAT WHERE A FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, UM, WITH, WITH, UH, THAT'S BEEN ADOPTED BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ALIGNS? UM, IS IT ALIGNED WITH TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT ALONG TRANSIT CORRIDORS? UM, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FRAMEWORK, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT ALL MAKES USE DEVELOPMENTS ALIGNED WITH ANY OF THE GOALS AND PRIORITIES IN THAT FRAMEWORK.
UNIVERSAL DESIGN WHEN FINANCIALLY FE FEASIBLE.
AND WE'RE GONNA BE COORDINATING WITH THE DISABILITY ACCESS OFFICE.
UM, WE HAD A REALLY GOOD DISCUSSION WHEN WE WERE DEVELOPING THE HOUSING BOND ON THE, ON, UH, UNIVERSAL DESIGN.
IT SHOULD ALMOST ALWAYS BE FEASIBLE WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION.
WITH REHABILITATION, IT MAY BECOME VERY EXPENSIVE AND COST PROHIBITIVE TO DO, UH, A HUNDRED PERCENT UNIVERSAL DESIGN.
AND THEN ALL AGREEMENTS WILL INCLUDE THE HOUSING VOUCHER, INCENTIVE POLICY, AND THE NOTICE OF TENANT'S RIGHTS.
UM, THOSE WERE ADOPTED AFTER OUR LAST, UM, TIF POLICY.
SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT LANGUAGE IS IN THERE AND APPLICANTS UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND THEN AGAIN, WITH HOUSING, UM, THIS IS GONNA BE OUR PROPOSED POLICY, UM, BUTTS BOARDS THAT WANNA SPECIFICALLY FOCUS IN ON SAY, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING OR HOUSING AT A CERTAIN A M I CAN CERTAINLY ADOPT THOSE GOALS AND PRIORITIES SO THAT APPLICANTS SEEKING FUNDING FROM THAT BOARD WILL KNOW FOR SUSTAINABILITY.
WE WANNA CONNECT OUR REQUIREMENTS TO CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.
UM, WE WANNA PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE ON WHAT THAT STANDARD IS.
RIGHT NOW, WE'RE PROPOSING BUILD SAN ANTONIO GREEN LEVEL TWO OR EQUIVALENT.
UM, AND THE OTHER THING THAT WE HEARD, ESPECIALLY FROM STAKEHOLDERS, IS THAT THE CERTIFICATION IS NOT NECESSARILY ESSENTIAL.
THEY JUST NEEDS TO PROVE TO US THAT THEY'RE MEETING THAT REQUIREMENT.
AND WE HEARD THAT MOSTLY FROM, UH, WELL, WE HEARD THAT FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT MOSTLY OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS THAT SAY, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL CERTIFICATION IF THEY'RE MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS, THAT COST GETS PASSED OFF ONTO THE TOTAL PROJECT COST.
UM, SO BILL SAN ANTONIO GREEN IN TERMS OF ALL THE TYPES OF CERTIFICATION, AND I KNOW DOUG IS HERE, HE PROBABLY KNOWS A LOT MORE THAN ME, BUT, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, LEAD PLATINUM.
LEAD PLATINUM IS A VERY EXPENSIVE CERTIFICATION TO GET.
AND I'M SURE ALL OF THE LEADS BUILT SAN ANTONIO GREEN IS MUCH MORE AFFORDABLE.
IT'S HERE LOCALLY AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE A LOT MORE CONVERSATIONS ON WITH REGARDS TO WHAT ITEMS ARE INCLUDED IN THERE.
OTHER PRIORITY ITEMS THAT WE LOOK FOR WHEN WE'RE NEGOTIATING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ARE MAKING SURE THAT HOMES ARE SOLAR READY, EV READY, UM, THEY HAVE ENERGY EFFICIENT ROOFS, DROUGHT RESISTANT LANDSCAPING, UH, HEAT ISLAND MITIGATION.
AND THAT COULD BE THROUGH, YOU KNOW, REDUCTION IN THE AMOUNT OF PAVEMENT THAT'S INCLUDED.
AND THEN MAKING SURE THAT THEY LEVERAGE OTHER, OTHER FUNDING SOURCES.
UM, PACE IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HEARD A LOT, UM, SPECIFICALLY FROM COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE DOING REHABS.
AND THEN OTHER STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDING THAT MAY BE COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE, UM, FOR SUSTAINABLE IN, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE AND BUILDING STANDARDS.
AND THEN LASTLY IS OUR APPLICATION.
SO THE APPLICATION IS NOT THE POLICY, BUT IT'S REALLY DRIVEN BY WHAT'S IN THE POLICY.
AND SO WE ARE WORKING ON A REVISED APPLICATION THAT'S STEERLY STATES, THE REQUIREMENTS FOR SUBMISSION, UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, STAFF SPENDS A LOT OF TIME MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S VERY CLEAR.
UM, MAKING SURE THAT THE TYPES OF AGREEMENT PROVISIONS ARE ALSO CLEARLY LISTED OUT.
SO INSURANCE, PERFORMANCE, BONDS, YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS ARE PRETTY STANDARD, BUT IF YOU ARE A NONPROFIT WHO MAYBE HAS NEVER ACCEPTED CITY FUNDING AND YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THESE THINGS, UM, WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME, UM, WORKING WITH THEM ON WAIVERS OR HELPING THEM UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S NEEDED.
UM, SO MAKING SURE THAT'S VERY CLEAR, THE FEES WILL BE, UM, LAID OUT IN AN EASY TO READ, UM, FORMAT.
THE PUBLIC BENEFITS FOR THE PROJECT, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HEARD A LOT FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ON, IS WHAT OTHER PUBLIC BENEFITS ARE PROVIDED FROM A PARTICULAR PROJECT.
AND THAT COULD BE ANYTHING FROM, YOU KNOW, ALLOWING A NEARBY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO HOST THEIR MONTHLY MEETINGS THERE.
UM, IT COULD BE LIGHTING, IT COULD BE, UM, ART, UM, IT COULD BE ACCESS TO A PARK OR A SWIMMING POOL THAT'S ON SITE.
UM, IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, DONATIONS FROM, YOU KNOW, SOME FUND OR BENEFITS OF THE, OF THE TOURS FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE.
SO MAKING SURE THAT THAT IS EASY TO IDENTIFY IN THE APPLICATION.
AGAIN, LINKING TO THE TS BOARD GOALS AND PRIORITIES, 'CAUSE EACH ONE WILL BE DIFFERENT.
UM, NORTHEAST CORRIDOR WILL BE MUCH DIFFERENT FROM INNER CITY AND INNER CITY MAY BE DIFFERENT FROM MISSION DRIVE-IN.
UM, THEY WILL ALL ALIGN WITH A CITY GOAL AND PRIORITY, BUT THEY MAY BE EMPHASIS ON DIFFERENT ONES.
AND THEN OUT OUTLINE A PROCESS AND TIMING FOR BEING CONSIDERED AND FUNDING FOR BEING REIMBURSED.
UM, WE KNOW EACH PROJECT IS ON A VERY TIGHT TIMELINE, AND OF COURSE WE TRY TO TURN THINGS AROUND AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, BUT BECAUSE THERE IS A PROCESS, WE WANNA COMMUNICATE THAT VERY CLEARLY UP UPFRONT WITH APPLICANTS WHO ARE APPLYING.
SO, UH, JUST, JUST REAL QUICK, UM, WE'RE HERE TODAY TO GET TO PRESENT TO YOU THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, GET MORE FEEDBACK, UM, AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK WITH A FINAL, FINAL RECOMMENDATION BEFORE GOING TO CITY COUNCIL.
UM, LIKELY SOMETIME, UH, NEXT MONTH OR THE FOLLOWING MONTH, GIVEN I THINK NEXT MONTH WE'VE GOT THANKSGIVING AND A COUPLE OF THINGS.
SO THAT BEING SAID, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY.
GREAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH, IAN.
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WORK THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING TO UPDATE IT.AND, UM, I THINK WE ASKED THIS COMMITTEE TO REVIEW IT BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME PROJECTS THAT HAD GENERATED A LOT OF DISCUSSION.
UM, AND SO WHEN I READ THE POLICY AS IT STANDS TODAY, I SAW THAT IT WAS REALLY OUTDATED, SO NOW I'M, I'M FEELING BETTER, RIGHT? IT'S REFRESHING TO SEE SOME OF THIS AND THEN IT ALSO I THINK IS BROUGHT INTO PERFECT ALIGNMENT WITH THE SHIP AND WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE SHIP.
SO, UM, IT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO ALIGN EVERYTHING TOGETHER.
UM, AND YOU HELP ME OR REMIND ME WHO'S ON THE TIFF GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE.
RIGHT? SO THAT'S, UH, LORI HOUSTON IS OUR CITY MANAGER REPRESENTATIVE.
WE HAVE TROY ELLIOT, WE HAVE JOHN JACKS, WE HAVE BRIDGET, UM, AND WE HAVE HOMER.
DOES THAT ALSO APPLY TO THE CITY INITIATED? YES.
AND, UM, DID WE GET FEEDBACK FROM FOLKS ABOUT, UH, THE AMOUNT OF CITY STAFF THAT SIT ON THAT COMMITTEE? IT'S THE TIF GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE IS A, AN INTERNAL STAFF COMMITTEE.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE INTENTION OF IT.
SO WE CAN REVIEW ITEMS COMING FORWARD, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE IN ALIGNMENT AND, UM, BECAUSE IT'S HEAVILY FINANCE DRIVEN, THAT'S WHY TROY ELLIOT AND BEN ZEL SOMETIMES COMES ON.
BUT IT'S, IT'S AN INTERNAL STAFF COMMITTEE.
ON THE BOARD APPOINTMENTS, YES, ON THE BOARD APPOINTMENTS, WHAT WE HEARD WAS, YOU KNOW, STAFF IS ONLY ON TOURS, BOARDS IF THE MISSION HAS A, MAINLY A PUBLIC PURPOSE.
SO HOUSTON STREET TOURS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE.
HOUSTON STREET TOURS, ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE BOND PROJECTS NOW.
AND SO WE ARE DEDICATING FUNDING TO THE ALAMEDA FLORIST STREET, UM, DOLE ROSA STREET IMPROVEMENTS, AND THAT MAKES SENSE FOR THAT TO BE CITY DRIVEN.
AND THEN MIDTOWN, IT HAS A MIXTURE BECAUSE IT'S PRIMARILY FOR CULTURALLY INITIATED PROJECTS.
AND SO WE HAVE HOMER AS THE CITY REPRESENTATIVE AND MYSELF ON THAT COMMITTEE.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE, UM, THREE, TWO OR THREE COMMUNITY REPS.
AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, THE CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS WITHIN THE TOURISTS REPRESENTED ON IT.
BUT THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO, I BELIEVE.
AND CAN YOU ALSO REMIND ME HOW WE START THE PROCESS FOR CITY IN INITIATED TOUR? RIGHT, FOR A NEW CITY INITIATED TOUR? UHHUH
UM, BUT ESSENTIALLY THE REQUEST WOULD JUST NEED TO BE MADE EITHER TO CITY STAFF OR THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
UM, AND THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO REVIEW IT.
SO IF YOU HAD A PARTICULAR BOUNDARY THAT YOU HAD IN MIND, CITY STAFF WOULD LOOK AT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE FINANCIAL PROJECTIONS, I THINK THE, THE T NEEDS TO BE, UM, SUSTAINABLE BECAUSE AGAIN, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS THAT GO WITH IT.
SO WHAT IS THE CURRENT LAND USE AND HOW MUCH IS PROJECTED OVER THE LIFE OF THE T TO BE ABLE TO FUND THE PROJECTS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE? AND THE MAJORITY OF THE FEES GO TO, UH, SPECIFICALLY TO KIND OF COVER STAFF COSTS, ET CETERA? THAT'S CORRECT.
WELL THEN THAT'LL BE ON MY NEXT MEETING WITH ERIC WALSH.
UM, ON SLIDE 17, THERE'S SOME, UH, UPDATED REQUIREMENTS AND ALIGNMENTS.
THE FIRST BULLET ASKS FOR A MARKET ANALYSIS AND, AND I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
I THINK I, I HAD BEEN ONE OF THE PEOPLE ASKING FOR THAT, BUT ARE WE LEAVING THE DOOR OPEN FOR, UM, MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENTS WITH THIS PROGRAM? NOT NECESSARILY.
UM, BUT IF SOMEBODY IS SAYING THAT A AREA, SAY FOR EXAMPLE, ALREADY HAS, UM, TOO MANY AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS NEARBY AND THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO SAY, SEE SOME MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA, THEN WE WOULD JUST NEED THE DATA TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
UM, BUT THE BASELINE WILL BE AFFORDABLE.
SORRY, LORI, YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? I MEAN, I WOULD JUST SAY WE ARE LEAVING THE DOOR OPEN FOR MARKET RATE MM-HMM.
SO THAT MARKET ANALYSIS IS REALLY GONNA DRIVE THE TYPE OF HOUSING.
AND IF IT COMES BACK AND SAYS YOU NEED MARKET RATE, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T GET MARKET RATE, THEY ARE GOING TO ACQUIRE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS AND TAKE THEM OUT OF THE INVENTORY, THEN WE WOULD WANT TO SUPPORT MARKET RATE.
UM, AND THEN CAN WE HAVE A REDLINED COPY OF THE POLICY WITH THE UPDATES WHEN IT COMES BACK OR BEFORE IT COMES BACK TO COMMITTEE? FORTUNATELY AND UNFORTUNATELY, LIKE THIS IS SUCH A MAJOR OVERHAUL THAT A LINE COPY WOULD NOT BE HELPFUL, UM, BECAUSE WE, WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY FROM THE DEVELOPERS IS IT'S CONFUSING.
UM, SO WE'VE REALLY DONE A LOT OF SIMPLIFYING AND CONDENSE.
SO WHAT WE CAN GIVE YOU IS JUST A DRAFT COPY OF THE NEW LANGUAGE AND THAT WOULD BE MORE HELPFUL FOR YOU.
OF THE SUMMARY OF THE CHANGES THAT WORKS, MAYBE A SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON OR SOMETHING WOULD WORK.
WE'LL GIVE YOU A NEW COPY OF THE NEW PROPOSED POLICY, UM, WITH A SUMMARY OF ALL THE CHANGES.
AND THEN WE CAN PROVIDE A COPY
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OF THE OLD POLICY.UM, LIKE LORI SAID, YOU, IT'LL BE HARD TO FOLLOW BECAUSE THE STRUCTURE IS DIFFERENT.
WE'VE REMOVED SO MUCH, WE'VE ADDED IT, IT JUST WON'T NECESSARILY LINE UP.
UM, BUT I THINK AS A SIDE-BY-SIDE COMPARISON, YOU COULD LOOK AT BOTH.
AND WE'LL START WITH, UH, COMMENTS FROM MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES.
WE'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN CASTILLO.
THANK YOU, IAN, FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I WOULD ALSO, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN'T SEE A RED LINE, UM, VERSION, BUT I WOULD HOPE TO SEE ONE, RIGHT? WE'RE ELECTED POLICYMAKERS.
I THINK WE COULD HANDLE, UM, REVIEWING SOME RED LINES AND AMENDED LANGUAGE.
UM, SO A A SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON, I UNDERSTAND THE STAKEHOLDERS, UM, MAY BE CONFUSED, RIGHT? BUT ULTIMATELY WE WERE ELECTED TO STATE POLICY.
SO I HOPE THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THAT.
UM, ON SLIDE 16, UH, WHERE IT DISCUSSES BOARD APPOINTMENT PROCESSES, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE CHAIRS OF TOURS WILL LOSE THE ABILITY TO MAKE APPOINTMENTS AND IT'S NOW GOING TO BE AN AT LARGE APPOINTMENTS THAT THE CITY WILL THEN REFER TO CITY COUNCIL? THOSE ARE NO, IT'LL BE THE SAME.
WELL, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANNA HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO GET SOME FEEDBACK BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME OUT OF THIS INPUT THAT WE FEEL THAT WE NEED TO GO MEET WITH EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER, BRIEF HIM ON THIS, ASK THEM FOR THEIR INPUT ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES, AND THEN WE'LL BE COMING BACK WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION.
'CAUSE I, I WOULD BE OPPOSED TO TAKING AWAY THE AGENCY OF THE, THE CHAIR OF A TOURS TO MAKE THOSE APPOINTMENTS.
UH, I, I APPRECIATE A COMMENT THAT, UH, COUNCILMAN V MADE WITH THE PREVIOUS, UH, PRESENTATION AROUND LABOR STANDARDS.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT HAVING DIFFICULTY, UM, IDENTIFYING LABOR.
AND I SEE THAT THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE PRESENTATION.
UM, BUT MY ASK WOULD BE IF WE COULD POTENTIALLY ALIGN THE LABOR LANGUAGE, UH, TO MATCH THE TS CONSTRUCTION LABOR STANDARDS.
UM, SO IF WE CAN ALIGN THAT WITH THE, THE TIF POLICY, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING OR IS THAT ALREADY, UH, IMPLEMENTED? WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT MM-HMM.
UM, AND CERTAINLY IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE, THEN WE CAN TAKE THAT BACK, UM, AND SEE HOW WE CAN INCORPORATE IT.
AND THEN WHEN WE COME BACK NEXT TIME, WE'LL HAVE THAT FLUSHED OUT MORE FOR YOU SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE EXACT LANGUAGE WOULD BE.
BECAUSE I ALSO HAVE SIMILAR RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AS WELL.
UM, SO IF WE COULD SET UP A FOLLOW UP MEETING TO DISCUSS THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, THAT'D BE GREAT.
UM, THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS.
UH, SLIDE 13 TALKS ABOUT BOARD COMPOSITION WITH CITY INITIATED TOURS, AND I NOTICED IT HAD SEVEN TO 11 MEMBERS, BUT IT ALSO SAYS PARTICIPATING TAXING ENTITIES.
GOD, WE GOT A LOT OF TAXING ENTITIES, UH, IN THIS CITY.
SO IS IT JUST SAYING WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO SERVE, BUT THEY CAN ALSO SAY WE DON'T WANNA SERVE.
IT'S, IT'S ONLY PARTICIPATING TAX ENTITIES.
SO IF BEXAR COUNTY IS GOING TO GIVE THEIR TAX INCREMENT TO THE TURS, THEN THEY WOULD GET A SEAT.
CURRENTLY THERE AREN'T ANY OTHER PARTICIPATING TAXING ENTITIES IN THESE TURS, BUT IF YOU ARE GOING TO PARTICIPATE AND YOU IN OTHER WORDS, MAKE A CONTRIBUTION, SOMEHOW CONTRIBUTION, AND YOU HAVE A SEAT ON THE BOARD.
UM, I WAS WONDERING IF THE BOARDS, UH, WHEN THEY'VE BEEN ESTABLISHED A FEW YEARS, UH, WHAT IS THE PROCESS THAT THE BOARD WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH TO REVISE WHATEVER ITS PURPOSES WERE OR WHATEVER PURPOSES THEY WANT TO DO IN THE FUTURE? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
SO WHAT WE PUT IN OUR POLICY RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE'RE GONNA REVIEW IT ANNUALLY, THE STAFF AND THE BOARD.
AND IF THEY DECIDE THAT CHANGES ARE NEEDED, THEN WE'LL MAKE CHANGES.
IF THEY DECIDE THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE SAME GOALS WE HAD FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS AND IT'S STILL WHAT WE WANNA FOCUS ON, THEN WE'LL LEAVE THEM THERE.
SO WHO WILL MAKE THE DECISION ON THE CHANGES? WILL A BOARD VOTE TO OKAY, AND THE CITY WILL JUST PUT A STAMP ON IT? YES.
SO THE, THE BOARDS WILL, THE, THE BOARDS WILL WORK TO ADOPT THEIR OWN GOALS AND PRIORITIES, UHHUH.
UM, AND AFTER THOSE ARE ADOPTED, UM, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NECESSARILY NEED TO TAKE THEM TO CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE AGAIN, THE GOALS AND PRIORITIES SHOULD ALIGN WITH A CITY ADOPTED GOAL AND PRIORITY, UM, OR A SPECIFIC PLAN.
UM, AND THEN WE WILL USE THAT TO GUIDE APPLICANTS IF THEY'RE APPLYING FOR FUNDING WITHIN THAT TTS TO LOOK AT THOSE GOALS AND PRIORITIES.
DOES YOUR PROJECT LINE UP WITH THESE OR DO YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING? I'M JUST WONDERING IF THE CITY WOULD BE A FINAL.
WELL, THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHY YOU WERE SET UP OR WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
SO CITY COUNCIL HAS TO APPROVE EVERY PROJECT THAT GOES THROUGH THE TURS AND
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THAT WILL BE INCORPORATED IN THE PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN.AND SO AT THAT TIME, STAFF WOULD, PR WOULD PRESENT, THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT THE S BOARD HAS SET OUR PRIORITY, THIS REFLECTS THEIR PRIORITIES, BUT COUNCIL ULTIMATELY HAS TO ADOPT IT.
AND I, AND I THINK I SHOULD ALSO, I THINK I SEE WHAT YOUR QUESTION IS.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THIS PROCESS RIGHT NOW WITH THE INNER CITY TOURS.
AND SO STAFF'S ROLE IS TO REALLY DO A COUPLE OF THINGS.
ONE, TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE GOALS AND PRIORITIES ARE IN ALIGNMENT, LIKE I SAID, WITH SOMETHING THAT CITY COUNCIL IS SPECIFICALLY FOCUSING ON, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT IT ALIGNS WITH THE SHIP OR DOES THE SUBCATEGORY OF THE SHIP.
UM, SO THAT'S OUR ROLE IS TO PROVIDE THAT FEEDBACK.
AND THEN ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THEY WANT TO USE THE FUNDING FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE, THAT IT'S ELIGIBLE UNDER CHAPTER THREE 11.
SO WE ALSO ARE PROVIDING GUIDANCE ON THAT.
SO ULTIMATELY THE GOALS AND PRIORITIES THAT ARE ADOPTED, UM, WITH STAFF'S HELP IN COORDINATING THOSE SHOULD BE GOOD TO GO, UM, IN ALIGNMENT WITH SOMETHING AT CITY COUNCIL.
BUT LORI'S RIGHT, ALL THOSE PROJECTS EVENTUALLY END UP THERE FOR FINAL CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL.
NO OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, CHAIR.
UM, THANK YOU IAN FOR THE PRESENTATION.
TS HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL IN MY DISTRICT.
UM, AND LOOKING FORWARD TO MEETING WITH YOU ABOUT, UM, KIND OF THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE SEEING HERE.
UM, I AGREE THAT I THINK THE, THE BOARD APPOINTEES NEED TO KIND OF STAY WITH THAT CHAIR.
I ALSO WANT TO SEE IN TERMS OF THE, UM, THE TAXING ENTITIES THAT HAVE A, UH, SEAT ON THE BOARD WHEN EXACTLY WE'RE GETTING THOSE INVESTMENTS THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN.
'CAUSE SOMETIMES IT TAKES A LITTLE LONGER FOR SOME TAXING ENTITIES THAN OTHERS.
SO, UH, I, I'LL, I, I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT ALSO.
UM, 'CAUSE I KNOW SPECIFICALLY WITH OURS, WE DO HAVE THE UNIVERSITY, UH, HEALTH SYSTEM, UH, OVER BY VIDA COMING IN AND THAT'S IN OUR DISTRICT.
SO, UH, WHAT SORT OF HELP THEY CAN GIVE US IF, IF THEY'RE COMING IN AS A TAXING ENTITY? UM, I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.
I THINK THE, UM, FLEXIBILITY IS GOING TO BE KEY BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND LOCATIONS SPECIFICALLY IN DISTRICT THREE, WE HAVE FACILITIES THAT I KNOW ARE HOUSING PEOPLE AFFORDABLY, BUT MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY SEEKING CITY HELP OR SERVICES TO DO THAT OR VOUCHERS.
SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT, OH, WE'RE PUTTING THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ANY AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON OUR RECORDS, IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT THERE.
SO I THINK WE NEED THAT MIX OF MARKET AND AFFORDABILITY.
SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND I LOOK FORWARD TO DISCUSSING THIS FURTHER.
COUNCIL MEMBER REAGAN AND COUNCILMAN COURAGE.
YES, I DID HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION.
UM, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN HERE ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF TERMINATING A TURS.
I KNOW SOME OF THEM HAVE A CERTAIN LIFE AND THEY CAN COME BACK FOR AN EXTENSION, BUT WHAT ABOUT IF THE, IF THE COUNCIL OR THE COMMUNITY BELIEVES THAT THERE'S NO FURTHER PURPOSE FOR THAT, BUT THEY'RE STILL COLLECTING, UH, TURS FUNDING, WHAT IS THE PROCESS FOR TERMINATING A TURS COUNCIL CAN TERMINATE A TURS? UM, IT, IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED.
AND UM, TYPICALLY THEY TERMINATE BECAUSE THEIR EXTENT THEIR, THEIR TERMINATION DATE COMES UP.
UM, BUT IF COUNSEL WOULD LIKE TO TERMINATE A TURS, THEY DO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT.
SO MAYBE WHAT WE CAN DO, COUNCILMAN IT'S NOT IN THE POLICY RIGHT NOW, IS WE CAN PUT A SENTENCE IN THERE, UM, THAT JUST AGAIN, JUST CLARIFY THAT YEAH.
OUT OF, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL REQUEST, STAFF REVIEW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I WOULD ADD THAT IF THERE ARE COMMITMENTS IN THAT TOUR, WE'D HAVE TO HONOR THOSE BEFORE YOU COULD CLOSE IT OUT.
UM, BUT COUNCIL COULD DO THAT.
UM, IAN, AND WE HAVE, I, I DON'T REMEMBER IF WE SEE EXPENDITURES FOR DEVELOPER TOUR AND WHAT HAPPENS IF FUNDS ARE LEFT AND WHAT WE CAN USE, I HAVE A PARTICULAR CASE IN D FOUR, WHICH IS HUNTER'S POND, UM, THAT I THINK THAT IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO SEE WHAT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY CAN USE IT ON.
THEY HAVE SEVERAL NEEDS RIGHT NOW, UM, ANYWAY, SO MAYBE WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION OFFLINE ABOUT THAT.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS BRIEFING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE RECOMMENDED UPDATE TO CHAPTER 10, BUILDING RELATED CODES BY ADOPTING THE 2021 EDITION OF THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL INTERNATIONAL ENERGY CONSERVATION CODE WITH LOCAL AMENDMENTS.
AND MIKE SHANNON, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN AND COMMITTEE
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MEMBERS.UM, JUST GONNA QUICKLY GO OVER, UM, SOMETHING WE BROUGHT TO YOU LAST MONTH.
WE WERE ASKED TO BRING THIS BACK FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION OF ONE OF THE CODES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UPGRADING.
SO, UH, AS I MENTIONED LAST MONTH, UH, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF PROPOSING AN UPDATE OF, TO THE 2021 VERSION OF THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL BUILDING RELATED AND FIRE CODES.
THERE ARE 10 SEPARATE CODES THAT REALLY WE USE TO HELP DEFINE AND TELL US HOW TO BUILD A SAFE, UH, STRUCTURE BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIALS.
SO HOMES, HIGH-RISES, DEPARTMENT STORES, ET CETERA.
THE ENERGY CODE WAS ONE THAT YOU ASKED ME TO BRING BACK 'CAUSE THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS.
AND, UM, SO, UH, THE INTERNATIONAL ENERGY CONSERVATION CODE, I'LL REFER TO IT AS THE I E C C.
UH, AGAIN, IT'S, UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY UNDER THE 2018 VERSION OF THAT, UM, ALONG WITH THE 28 VERSION, 2018 VERSIONS OF THE OTHER CODES.
SO, UH, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, UH, SINCE FEBRUARY.
SO, UH, OVER THE PAST YEAR HAVE BEEN MEETING AND HAVING COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND REALLY WORKING THROUGH OUR BUILDING AND FIRE CODES, UH, APPEALS AND ADVISORY BOARD.
UM, THEY HAVE A, UH, IT'S A 17 MEMBER BOARD, A DIVERSE, UH, SET OF STAKEHOLDERS THAT WERE APPOINTED BY YOU ALL.
UH, SO I THINK I WENT OVER THAT LAST MONTH, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN MEETING AND HAVING DIFFERENT COMMITTEE MEETINGS ON ALL THOSE 10 CODES.
WE HAD OVER 20 OF THOSE MEETINGS.
WE HAD SEVERAL ON THE I E C C AND I PRESENTED THAT, UH, TO YOU ALL A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE 2021, UM, BACK IN SEPTEMBER.
SO WE'RE BACK HERE TO TALK ABOUT A FEW OF THE HIGHLIGHTS AND A LITTLE MORE DEPTH.
SO I THINK WHAT IS THE GOOD NEWS HERE IS THAT THERE REALLY IS, EVERYONE IS SUPPORTIVE OF US MOVING TO THE NEXT VERSION OF THE ENERGY CODE.
LIKE, LIKE WITH ALL THE OTHER BUILDING CODES AND MECHANICAL CODE AND ELECTRICAL CODE.
SO SOME OF THE ITEMS YOU'VE HEARD OF AND HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE, THE CODE IN OF ITSELF THIS YEAR IS MORE ENERGY EFFICIENCY, UH, WHETHER YOU'RE COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL, AND THAT INCLUDES APARTMENTS, ET CETERA.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS FOR THAT.
UH, BUT THE D O E, THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY HAS TAKEN A LOOK AT IT AND WE JUST THROW SOME NUMBERS UP THERE, UH, THAT EVERYTHING IS AN INCREASE.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING SINCE REALLY 2006, UH, WHEN THE, UH, ENERGY CODE REALLY STARTED, UH, INCREASING, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, 10% OR 30% OR 15%, THERE'S BEEN THESE INCREMENTAL INCREASES TO ENERGY EFFICIENCY BECAUSE THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING, UH, THAT THE NATION AS WELL AS INTERNATIONAL IS REALLY UH, CONCERNED ABOUT.
UH, BUT AGAIN, THE CONVERSATION IS ALWAYS WITHOUT, UH, ALWAYS WITH SOME, UH, DEBATE AS TO HOW MUCH ENERGY EFFICIENCY, UH, WE ADD TO STRUCTURES AS WE MOVE FORWARD, UH, WITH A COMPARISON OF COST.
WE HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AFFORDABLE CONSTRUCTION TO DEAL WITH.
SO IT'S ALWAYS THIS BALANCE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND.
SO, A COUPLE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, AND I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THIS REAL QUICKLY.
SO WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL, UH, CHANGES, SIGNIFICANT RESIDENTIAL CHANGES, UH, THAT WE'VE, UH, TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME AS WELL.
UH, ONE OF THEM IS JUST REALLY INCREASING SOME FLEXIBILITY FOR SOME TRADE-OFFS.
TRADE-OFFS ARE THOSE THINGS IN THE CODE, SO THAT IF, IF, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, YOU DON'T JUST PUT IN THE MINIMUM EFFICIENCY AC UNIT IN THE, IN THE STRUCTURE, MAYBE YOU GO A LITTLE HIGHER.
WE USE THINGS LIKE THE SEER RATING, AND I WON'T GO TOO MUCH INTO THAT, BUT IF YOU'VE HAD AN AC UNIT, UH, REPLACED IN YOUR HOME OR BOUGHT A NEW HOME, UH, BUT IF YOU GO A LITTLE BIT MORE MINIMUM ON YOUR AC UNIT, MAYBE YOU CAN TRADE THAT OFF FOR SOME, UH, FLEXIBILITY IN SOME OTHER EITHER INSULATION REQUIREMENTS OR GLAZING REQUIREMENTS, ET CETERA.
UM, WE ALSO ARE PROPOSING THROUGH THE PROCESS, UH, TO, TO MAINTAIN THE CURRENT INSULATION REQUIREMENTS AND CEILINGS.
UH, THAT WAS ONE ITEM YOU HEARD IN SOME OF THE, UH, COMMENTS AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS MEETING.
UH, 38 R VALUE R VALUE IS THE TERM WE USE, UH, TO DEFINE HOW MUCH INSULATION THE NATIONAL CODE RECOMMENDED GOING TO 49.
UH, THE COMMITTEE REVIEWED THAT AND, AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.
UH, PROPOSED TO KEEP IT AT THE 38, UH, LEVEL OF TODAY.
UH, WE ARE PROPOSING TO ADD SOME REQUIREMENTS FOR EV AND PV CAPABLE.
UH, THOSE ARE NOT IN THE INTERNATIONAL CODE RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S SOMETHING EXTRA, HOWEVER, THERE'S SOME, UH, CONVERSATION ABOUT, IS THAT ENOUGH? OH, CLICKED IT TWICE.
UH, A FEW OF THE HIGHLIGHTS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
SO WE ADDED REQUIREMENTS FOR OPERABLE OPENINGS OF GARAGE STYLE DOORS.
SO A LOT OF BUSINESSES USE THOSE GARAGE STYLE DOORS, RIGHT? THEY START OPENING THEM UP.
UH, CERTAINLY IF YOU OPEN THOSE UP AND KEEP THE AC ON AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S NOT REALLY ENERGY EFFICIENT.
SO WE WANT TO HAVE SOME INTERLOCKING CONTROLS, PROBABLY IF YOU'RE GONNA UTILIZE, UH, THAT AS PART OF YOUR COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE, UM, INCREASES SOME HVAC EQUIPMENT EFFICIENCY.
OF COURSE, THE NAT, UH, THE NATIONAL STANDARD, UH, ON, UH, 2023 INCREASES THAT AS WELL.
UH, THAT'S A NATIONAL STANDARD.
UM, LIGHTING CONTROLS AND PARKING GARAGES, HOW MANY PARKING GARAGES ARE OUT THERE? UH, THAT ACTUALLY AT NIGHTTIME, THERE'S NO ACTIVITY OR MAYBE NOT EVEN OPEN,
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UH, SOME REQUIREMENTS TO ENSURE LIGHTING, UH, IS NOT ON WHEN IT'S NOT OCCUPIED.AND, UH, ESPECIALLY IN THE NIGHTTIME, UH, TIMES LIKE THAT.
AND, UH, AND THEN, UH, JUST SOME ADDITIONAL EFFICIENCY OPTIONS.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THE CODES HAVE BROUGHT IN, INCLUDING THE ENERGY CODE, MORE OPTIONS, UH, OF COMPLIANCE.
WE ALWAYS LIKED THAT AS, UH, AS CODE OFFICIALS OR AS DESIGN PROFESSIONALS, UH, OR AS OWNERS, YOU LIKE MORE OPTIONS AS OPPOSED TO ONLY ONE WAY TO DO IT, TO MEET THE, UH, CRITERIA OF THE ENERGY CODE.
SO ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME WAS A, A NEW REQUIREMENT IN THE CODE, UH, IN THE 2021 VERSION OF THE ENERGY CODE WAS LOOKED AT BY THE COMMITTEE.
AND THIS IS FOR THE ENERGY MONITORING SYSTEM.
NOW REMEMBER, I, I TOLD YOU THIS IS NOT THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN BENCHMARKING CONVERSATION.
UH, IT'S IN THE SAME BALLPARK, BUT RIGHT, BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME ITEM.
BUT WHAT THIS IS GONNA REQUIRE IS THAT CERTAIN SIZE BUILDINGS, WITH ALL THESE ENERGY EFFICIENT, UH, SYSTEMS THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN, UH, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO MONITOR IT.
AND THAT SYSTEM, IT COULD BE A SIMPLE, SOME SIMPLE SOFTWARE THAT'S EITHER FEW HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS, FEW THOUSANDS, TOO LARGE, UH, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS DEPENDING UPON WHAT YOUR SYSTEM IS.
AND, UH, THIS WOULD KICK IN BY, UH, THE PROPOSAL FROM THE COMMITTEE WAS KICKING IN AT A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, UH, ON COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.
THE ENERGY CODE ACTUALLY PROPOSED IT.
THE NATIONAL CODE PROPOSED IT AT 25,000 SQUARE FEET.
UH, THE COMMITTEE FELT LIKE, WELL, THIS IS BRAND NEW.
WE WANT IT TO START WITH THE LARGER COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.
WE ALSO HAVE APARTMENTS IN THERE.
THOSE ARE OUR TWO OCCUPANCIES RESIDENTIAL, TWO OCCUPANCIES, THOSE ARE APARTMENTS.
UH, THE CODE ACTUALLY SPECIFIES THAT KICKING IN AT 5,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDINGS.
THE COMMITTEE FELT 10,000 WAS THE APPROPRIATE STARTING POINT FOR THAT.
NOW, THERE WAS A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, ABOUT RESIDENTIAL CEILING INSULATION, RIGHT? I JUST TOLD, I TOLD YOU THE COMMITTEE PROPOSED STAYING AT WHERE WE'RE AT 30 R 38, NOT GOING TO R 49.
I THINK YOU HEARD IT FROM ONE OF THE COMMENTERS HERE EARLY ON.
THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL, IF YOU'RE DOING BLOWN IN, UH, CELLULOSE CEILING INSULATION, THAT'S ABOUT THREE MORE INCHES OF INSULATION BLOWN IN, IN A TYPICAL HOME, IF YOU'RE USING THAT.
AND THERE'S, THERE'S A THOUSAND DIFFERENT TYPES OF INS INSTALLATIONS OUT THERE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE COMMITTEE LOOKED AT IS, AND THE CONVERSATION IS, LOOK, YES, MORE INSULATION IS ALWAYS BETTER, BUT AT SOME POINT IT'S DIMINISHED IN RETURN.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT GRAPH UP ON THE LEFT SIDE, UH, THAT HEAT FLOW, UH, AS YOU GET OUT FURTHER TO THE R-VALUE, YOU DON'T GAIN A LOT OF IT, RIGHT? THAT'S, I MEAN, YOU CAN RESEARCH THIS, THIS IS ALL OVER.
UH, SO IT IS MORE, MORE WILL BE MORE RESTRICTIVE OF HEAT FLOW.
BUT THE QUESTION IS, DOES THE ADDITIONAL COST JUSTIFY IT? AND THEN THIS IS WHEN WE GET INTO THE COST DISCUSSION, AS I THINK I MENTIONED LAST TIME, THE COST DISCUSSION, UH, AND THE RESEARCH YOU CAN DO ON COST, UH, IS IT VARIES SIGNIFICANTLY.
UH, YOU'LL HEAR SOME PEOPLE SAY IT'S A HUNDRED OR 200 BUCKS TO ADD THAT THREE INCHES OF INSULATION.
UH, THE, THE, THE TABLE THERE WAS TAKEN FROM, UH, AN ANALYSIS DONE BY THE HOME INNOVATIVE RESEARCH LAB IN JUNE OF 21.
UH, THAT TELLS YOU IT'S 1100 TO $1,300 ON AN AVERAGE 2,500 SQUARE FOOT HOME.
SO IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE, I DON'T KNOW, 200, $300 TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND AGAIN, THAT WAS THE QUESTION THAT THE COMMITTEE LOOKED AT AND FELT THAT THE 38 WAS STILL APPROPRIATE WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE, UH, CERTAINLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, UH, UH, INITIATIVES.
UH, NOW TALKING ABOUT SOLAR, SOLAR CAPABLE, UH, THERE'S A PICTURE THERE OF A TYPICAL ELECTRICAL PANEL.
UH, WE ARE PROPOSING TO ADD, UH, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THE PANELS INCLUDE AN OPEN SPACE, RIGHT? A RESERVE SPACE IN THE MAIN ELECTRICAL SERVICE FOR FUTURE SOLAR PANELS TO BE HOOKED UP TO FAIRLY SIMPLE, BUT NOT GOING SO FAR AS ADDING THE EITHER THE, UH, SOLAR READY ZONES, UH, ON THE ROOF OR, OR CONFIGURING, YOU KNOW, ROOF AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE VENT PIPES, ET CETERA, OR THE STRUCTURAL REQUIREMENTS OF THAT.
BUT THIS IS, UH, UH, THIS IS BEYOND THE NATIONAL CODE AND SOMETHING THAT, UH, WAS NEGOTIATED AT THE COMMITTEE, UH, LEVEL.
WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION AT THE LAST MEETING ABOUT, UH, UH, ELECTRIC VEHICLE READY FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.
THE PROPOSAL FROM THE COMMITTEE IS TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL LEVEL ONE OUTLET, UH, TO EVERY GARAGE.
SO IN YOUR GARAGE, IF A, IF A HOUSE IS BUILT TODAY, IF IT'S A ONE OR TWO CAR GARAGE, FOR EVERY CAR SPACE IN A GARAGE, YOU'RE REQUIRED AT LEAST TO HAVE A MINIMUM, UH, ONE ELECTRICAL OUTLET.
IT'S A TYPICAL ELECTRICAL OUTLET THAT YOU SEE IN YOUR HOMES.
UH, THE PROPOSAL IS TO ADD ONE MORE OF THOSE.
THAT'S CALLED A LEVEL ONE CHARGER.
AND YES, IT ABSOLUTELY, IT'S KIND OF LISTED THERE.
IT'S A ONE 20 VOLT, UH, TYPICAL, UH, OUTLET YOU SEE IN YOUR HOME.
IT TAKES A WHILE TO CHARGE YOUR ELECTRIC VEHICLE.
THIS, WE JUST PUT THIS UP HERE.
THIS IS, UH, SOME INFORMATION.
WE GOT, UH, 18 HOURS TO DO A HUNDRED MILES.
THE IDEA IS NOT EVERYBODY'S DRIVING A HUNDRED MILES.
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GET TO AND FROM WORK WITH A CHARGE OVERNIGHT, UH, FOR, UH, EIGHT OR 10 OR 12 HOURS.UH, LEVEL TWO IS, UH, WAS DISCUSSED.
UH, THE ADDITIONAL COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
I THINK WE'VE HEARD ESTIMATES OF, I THINK SOMEONE REFERENCED $50, UH, TO GO GET A LEVEL 2, 2 40 VOLTS INSTALLED.
I'M NOT SURE I, UH, AGREE WITH THAT ONE.
BUT WE ALSO GET ESTIMATES, THIS IS ACTUALLY CAME FROM SOME OF THE HOME BUILDERS THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE, UH, CONVERSATION, WHICH WAS, UH, 1500 TO 2000 FOR HOMES, UH, WITH ADEQUATE POWER RESERVES.
I THINK THAT INCLUDES THE COST OF THE FOUR OR $500 LEVEL TWO CHARGER.
SO, UM, NOW IF YOUR POWER DEMAND LOAD, IF YOU HAD TO EXCEED YOUR TYPICAL 200 AMP PANEL AND GO TO THE NEXT SIZE PANEL OR SOMETHING, IT COULD GO UP TO SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS.
SO AGAIN, IT'S GONNA BE MORE DEPENDING UPON, UH, WHO YOU ASK, BUT IT'S CLEARLY IN THE, UH, HUNDREDS, IF NOT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO, TO, UH, UH, TO ADD THIS TO EVERY NEW HOME.
UH, AGAIN, I JUST LIST RE-LISTED THE STAKEHOLDERS.
A LOT OF THESE ARE SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF THE STAKEHOLDER, UH, COMMITTEE, UH, A I A STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS, UH, PLUMBING, HEATING COOLER, UH, CONTRACTORS, ET CETERA.
UH, SO MY RECOMMENDATION TO YOU AGAIN, AND I'LL ANSWER CERTAINLY, UH, ANY QUESTIONS, UH, IS TO FORWARD THE 2021 ENERGY CODE, UH, AS PROPOSED, UH, BY OUT OF THE COMMITTEE, WHICH INCLUDE, UH, SOME GIVE AND TAKE, BUT IT DID INCLUDE SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS ON SOLAR AND EV THAT'S BEYOND NATIONAL CODE.
UH, AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD FIRST STEP, UH, ON THOSE AREAS, UH, FOR THIS CITY.
SECOND TO THE LAST QUESTION, UM, IN SLIDE WHERE YOU HAVE A STAKEHOLDERS, ARE THOSE ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WERE ON THE I E C C COMMITTEE? NO, THE I E C C COMMITTEE WAS A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE BIGGER BOARD, AND THEN THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE BIGGER BOARD WHO WAS ON THE I E C C OF THESE, UM, I'D HAVE TO GET THAT FOR YOU.
AND THEN ARE WE IN FULL ALIGNMENT WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE, UM, INTERNATIONAL ENERGY CONSERVATION CODE? AND IF NOT, DID WE OMIT CERTAIN RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE PROPOSED UPDATE AND WHY? YES.
SO, NO, WE ARE NOT PROPOSING TO ADOPT IT AS IS STRAIGHT WITHOUT ANY LOCAL AMENDMENTS.
UH, AS I MENTIONED LAST TIME, WHEN WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS EVERY THREE OR FOUR YEARS TO ADOPT THE BUILDING AND FIRE AND, AND ENERGY AND MECHANICAL PLUMBING, THERE'S ALWAYS SOME LOCAL AMENDMENTS.
AND EACH ONE OF THOSE IS DEBATED AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL.
WE ADD SOME REQUIREMENTS, WE TAKE AWAY SOME REQUIREMENTS THAT WE DISAGREE WITH AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL, AND THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH.
SO THE ENERGY CODE IS NO DIFFERENT.
WE ADD SOME REQUIREMENTS, THINK OF THE PV AND EV THAT I JUST DESCRIBED, AND WE TAKE AWAY SOME, EVEN THE, EVEN THE ENERGY MONITORING SYSTEMS THAT WAS BRAND NEW.
WE PROPOSED THROUGH THE COMMITTEE STARTING AT A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET FOR COMMERCIAL, NOT AT THE 25,000 SQUARE FOOT TRIGGER.
SO, SO NOT, I MEAN, AT BIG BUILDINGS, BUT NOT AS, YOU KNOW, NOT AS LOW AS THE 25.
SO THERE'S A GIVE AND TAKE THERE.
AND I HAVE THREE DIFFERENT SETS OF NUMBERS, ACTUALLY, MAYBE FIVE OR SIX NOW, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
RIGHT? AND SO, UM, I, I JUST AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, RIGHT, IS THERE AN AVERAGE? YEAH, SO OUR, OUR, OUR, WE'VE DONE ALL THAT RE RESEARCH.
I, I GUESS WE COULD PUT TOGETHER THE AVERAGE, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH, I MEAN, AND I, AND MY TEAM, IT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, A, AN EXTRA LEVEL ONE OUTLET IN THE GARAGE IS GONNA BE A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT COST, LABOR, EXTRA WIRE, ET CETERA.
SO IT'S NOT THAT EXPENSIVE MAYBE, BUT, YOU KNOW, EXTRA COUPLE HUNDRED BUCKS.
BUT GOING TO THE, THE LEVEL TWO, IT IS AT LEAST GONNA DOUBLE THAT.
SO IT'S GONNA BE THREE, $500, AND THAT'S ASSUMING YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING TO THE PANEL.
SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE HEARD, AND WE'RE TRYING TO AVERAGE ALL THAT OUT.
BUT I THINK IN TALKING WITH SOME OF THE HOME BUILDERS AND, AND THEY'RE, THEY, THEY UNDERSTAND THEY OFFER LEVEL TWO EV CHARGERS AS AN OPTION IN A LOT OF THEIR HOMES IF PEOPLE WANT IT.
BUT IT COULD BE VERY SPECIFIC TO THAT HOME AND OR SUBDIVISION ON HOW THEY'VE LAID IT OUT.
SO, UM, WE, WE CERTAINLY THINK THOSE ARE THE, THOSE ARE THE BALLPARK NUMBERS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.
BUT, UM, WE COULD TRY TO CAPTURE, I GUESS EVERY, EVERY REFERENCE WE'VE HAD.
AND ALSO FOR THE CEILING INSULATION.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO MY COLLEAGUES THAT DON'T SIT ON THIS COMMITTEE SURE.
SO THAT THEY COULD HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION UP FRONT.
UM, ALSO THE SOLAR READY ROOF REQUIREMENT, UM, SOLAR READY PANELS SPECIFICALLY, WE, UM, UH, DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NECESSARILY
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REFERENCED OR YOU ALL AREN'T RECOMMENDING FOR DEVELOPERS TO INDICATE A SOLAR READY ZONE.UM, WHAT WOULD IT COST TO INDICATE A SOLAR READY ZONE? LIKE IS THERE WELL, ON YOUR, YEAH, IF, IF YOU SUBMIT TO ME A SET OF PLANS TODAY AND YOU JUST MARK OUT THIS ZONE IS ALREADY, THAT'S IT.
I THINK THE COST THAT WAS PRESENTED, UH, OR THE CHALLENGE BECAUSE OF COST THAT THERE, THERE WOULD BE SOME REDESIGN FOR CERTAIN AREAS, UH, OR CERTAIN FLOOR PLANS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THAT'S WHERE YOUR BATHROOM OR KITCHEN VENT PIPES OR CEILING PROS GO THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE, UH, ROOF.
SO IF THEY HAD TO REDESIGN THEIR PLANS TO FIT ANY TYPE OF SOLAR READY OR SOLAR ZONES LIKE THAT, THAT WAS THE CONCERN BROUGHT UP.
UH, WE DIDN'T GET A QUANTIFIED NUMBER ON WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO REVISE, YOU KNOW, IF I'M KB HOMES, IF, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY FLOOR PLANS THEY HAVE, UH, WHAT THAT COST IS ASSOCIATED AND HOW IT WOULD DO TO THEIR MARKET.
BUT, UM, BUT YEAH, I THINK THAT'S THE CONCERN, BUT JUST MARKETING ON A SHEET OF PAPER, THAT'S NOT HARD.
WELL, SO I'D LOVE TO GET MAYBE THOSE COSTS AS WELL.
UM, SO I THINK IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT UPFRONT.
AND THEN, UM, THE COMMERCIAL REQUIREMENT OF HAVING 3% OF PARKING SPACES BE E V CAPABLE.
UM, AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL ADDRESSED IT ALSO.
UM, SO HOW DID Y'ALL END AT 3%? WELL, I THINK THERE WAS, AGAIN, UH, THE DISCUSSION BY THE COMMITTEE.
UH, AND ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, THINKING OF LIKE APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND SUCH, UM, THERE'S A PROPOSAL OF 10% OUT THERE.
SOME, SOME CITIES HAVE MORE, BUT I THINK THERE, THERE WAS A, JUST A ROUGH NUMBER OF IF YOU HAVE A HUNDRED, UH, REQUIRED PARKING SPACES, UH, THE NUMBERS DICTATE AROUND, YOU KNOW, THREE OR 4% OR SO ARE EV UH, CARS OUT THERE.
UH, AND IT WAS SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT, I THINK.
UH, AMIN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SHARE ON THAT? NO, BUT I'M, I'M KIND OF SUMMARIZING.
BUT THERE WASN'T ANY, UH, THERE WASN'T ANY REPORT THAT SUGGESTED THAT, YOU KNOW, THREE WAS BETTER THAN, UH, TWO, IT WAS BETTER THAN FIVE, BUT IT WAS, I THINK IT JUST IN GENERAL CONVERSATION, I'D LIKE TO INCREASE IT AT LEAST TO FIVE.
UM, JUST AFTER DOING JUST GENERAL RESEARCH, I, I LIKE COUNCILMAN VAL.
I DON'T KNOW THAT 10% JUST YET, BUT AT LEAST TO 5%.
BUT, UM, I, I'M JUST ANXIOUS TO SEE WHAT, WHAT MY COLLEAGUES, UH, WOULD LIKE TO ADD.
BUT I'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN, COURAGE.
I'LL, I'LL START OFF BY SAYING, I WOULD AGREE IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S GONNA HAVE 300 UNITS AND YOU ONLY HAVE NINE PLUGINS AT 3%, I THINK THAT REALLY IS, IS NOT THINKING FORWARD TO THE FUTURE.
UH, AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHAT THIS PROCESS WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH SHOULD BE DOING IS LOOKING MORE FORWARD.
NONE OF THIS WILL AFFECT ANYTHING THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS.
WE'RE SAYING NEW CONSTRUCTION FOR ALL OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.
IS THAT CORRECT? THIS IS NEW CONSTRUCTION, YES.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT SAYS YOU NEED TO GO BACK AND RETROFIT UNDER ANY OF THESE PROPOSALS? UH, NO.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BE THINKING FORWARD.
WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A NEW HOME.
IF I WERE BUYING A NEW HOME TWO OR THREE YEARS FROM NOW, AND THEY SAID IT'S EV READY, AND THEY SAID, AND, AND YOU CAN DO SOLAR ON THE ROOF, AND THEY SAY, OH, WE'VE GOT UPGRADE ON OUR, UH, INSTALLATION.
TO ME, THOSE ARE SALES TOOLS THAT MAKES THAT HOUSE MORE DESIRABLE THAN MAYBE AN OLDER HOUSE THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY OF THAT.
AND I THINK THAT, UH, IN ORDER TO SAVE COST, UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WELL, NOT DOING THINGS THAT PEOPLE REALLY GONNA WANT TO HAVE IN THE FUTURE.
UH, AND THESE HOMES AREN'T GONNA BE BUILT IN A YEAR OR PROBABLY 18 MONTHS.
IT'S PROBABLY GONNA TAKE A COUPLE OF YEARS.
UH, AND SO I THINK IT'S WISE NOW, UH, I, I DON'T PARTICULARLY THINK THAT I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF, OF REDESIGNING THE STRUCTURE OF A HOUSE SO THAT THE PIPES WEREN'T IN CERTAIN AREAS.
UH, BUT I WOULD SAY YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE AN EV READY ELECTRICAL PANEL SO THAT, UH, NOT EV UH, SOLAR READY PANEL SO THAT SOMEBODY CAN ADD SOLAR.
AND THE SAME THING FOR EV, A TYPE ONE IS NOTHING BUT A PLUG IN THE WALL LIKE YOU HAVE IN YOUR KITCHEN OR, OR YOUR, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR DINING ROOM THAT ISN'T LOOKING FORWARD TO THE KIND OF FUTURE WE NEED TO HAVE IN HOMES THAT ARE BEING DEVELOPED.
WE KNOW THAT IN FIVE YEARS, THERE'S GONNA BE PROBABLY 10 TIMES AS MANY EVS ON THE ROAD AS THERE ARE TODAY.
AND, AND IN 10 YEARS THERE'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, HALF OF THE CARS THAT PEOPLE ARE BUYING GONNA BE EV AND IF YOU CAN'T PLUG IT IN AT HOME BECAUSE IT'S AN A TYPE ONE, WHICH PROBABLY NONE OF THE VEHICLES ARE GONNA BE SUITED FOR IN ANOTHER THREE TO FIVE YEARS,
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THEN YOU'RE NOT REALLY DOING ANYTHING FOR THE FUTURE.SO I REALLY AM SUPPORTIVE OF MANY OF THESE THAT I SEE IN HERE.
I KNOW IT'S JUST A BRIEFING RIGHT.
NOW, WHEN ARE THESE GOING TO, WHEN WOULD YOU THINK THIS COMMITTEE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO GO TO COUNCIL TODAY? OKAY, SO THEN, SO, AND I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T MENTION THAT.
I DIDN'T MENTION THIS COST, BUT THANK YOU.
UH, WE ARE PROPOSING TO TAKE THE BUILDING RELATED CODES ON NOVEMBER 10TH, SO A WEEK FROM THURSDAY.
AND THE QUESTION FOR THIS GROUP, UH, WAS TO, IF WE HAD ACTION TO ATTACH THAT TO THE NOVEMBER 10TH, THAT WAS, THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION.
UH, WE DID TALK LAST TIME ABOUT IF YOU WANTED TO NOT ADOPT THE 2021 AT THIS POINT, YOU COULD DO THAT.
'CAUSE YOU LOSE A LOT OF THE OTHER THINGS.
UM, AND DELAY IT FURTHER, BUT I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH, UH, TODAY.
OKAY, THEN, AND IF I MAY CONTINUE, I THINK WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND PUT IN A TYPE TWO, UH, EV READY HOME, UH, PLUGIN.
UH, I THINK WE OUGHT TO BE LOOKING AT THE CEILING INSULATION, EVEN IF IT ONLY SAVES YOU TWO OR $3 A MONTH FOR THE 30 YEARS YOU LIVE THERE.
IF WE HAVE ALL THE NEW HOMES DOING THAT, HOW MUCH ENERGY DO WE SAVE FOR THE ENTIRE CITY AND HOW MUCH DOES THAT SAVE C P S? AND WHEN WE SAVE C P SS ENERGY, HOW MUCH DOES IT SAVE US? AND THE SAME THING FOR THE BUILDING MANAGEMENT TO SAY WE'RE NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING FOR BUILDINGS THAT ARE, REQUIRE ANYTHING FOR 25,000 TO 50,000 SQUARE FEET, BUT ONLY A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
WHAT'S THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IN CITY HALL? DO YOU KNOW? IT'S MORE THAN 25,000.
YES, BUT NOT A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
YEAH, IT'S NOT, SO WE WOULDN'T BE ACTUALLY SAYING WE OUGHT TO HAVE A MANAGEMENT PROGRAM HERE.
I HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK, BUT YEAH.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, I'LL TALK SOME MORE WITH SOME MORE TIME.
KASMAN, YOU HAD MENTIONED ABOUT 18 MONTHS OR TWO YEARS.
SO IF THIS WERE TO GO INTO EFFECT, IF WE WERE TO ADOPT IT ON NOVEMBER 10TH, THE PROPOSAL IS THAT THESE WOULD GO LIVE FEBRUARY ONE.
SO A HOUSE THAT, A HOME THAT COMES AND GET A PERMIT FROM US AFTER FEBRUARY ONE.
I MEAN, THOSE ARE BEING BUILT IN FOUR TO SIX MONTHS.
SO WE ARE LOOKING AT HOMES THAT ARE GONNA BE ON THE MARKET THIS TIME NEXT YEAR.
I JUST TO CLEAR, I JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT TIMELINE IS, IS STILL WHERE WE'RE AT.
I MEAN, EVEN WITH ALL THE SUPPLY DEMAND ISSUES AND THE SUPPLY CHALLENGES, BUT THEY'RE STILL TURNING HOMES OVER IN FOUR TO SIX MONTHS.
WE'LL GO ON TO COUNCILMAN CASTILLO AND THEN COUNCILMAN GERRAN.
THANK YOU, MIKE, FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UH, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THE C 4 0 9, UH, POTENTIALLY INCREASING THAT TO 5%.
AND IN REVIEWING THIS SIERRA CLUB'S LETTER, IT MENTIONS THAT FOR THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL FROM STAFF TO ADOPT THE R 49 STANDARD FOR ATTIC INSTALLATION, THAT THAT WAS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, BUT THE SUPER COMMITTEE, UM, DID, WASN'T IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT.
CAN YOU SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THAT CONVERSATION WAS LIKE ON WHY THE SUPER COMMITTEE, UH, WASN'T SUPPORTIVE OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION? WELL, I THINK IT'S LIKE ANYTHING ELSE.
YOU KNOW, WE AS STAFF WILL LOOK AT ANY OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES.
WE'LL MAKE A A, A RECOMMENDATION, YOU KNOW, FROM A PROFESSIONAL STANDPOINT, UH, IT GOES THROUGH A SUBCOMMITTEE, THEN A COMMITTEE, UH, THEY VOTE ON IT.
IF I REALLY DISAGREE WITH WHAT THE COMMITTEE IS, I CAN CERTAINLY, I GUESS MY, MY QUESTION WAS LIKE, NOT THE PROCESS, BUT WHAT WAS THE, THE DISAGREEMENT WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WITH THE SUPER COMMITTEE? YEAH, I THINK IT, IT, IT, IT HAD TO DO WITH THE ADDITIONAL THREE INCHES OF INSULATION, WHICH IS PROBABLY THE MOST POPULAR INSULATION.
THE, THE, THE LACK OF SIGNIFICANT, UM, BENEFITS FROM A HEAT FLOW STANDPOINT.
AND THE COST, I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, WHETHER, WHETHER IT'S $300 OR A THOUSAND DOLLARS EV EVERY DOLLAR YOU'RE ADDING TO A HOME IS SOMETHING THAT GETS DEBATED.
SO THE COMMITTEE OVERALL FELT THAT THAT COST WASN'T JUSTIFIED, ESPECIALLY IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUES THAT WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW.
UM, FOR THE EV READY HOMES, I'M ALSO SUPPORTIVE OF, UM, GOING TO THE, THE, WHAT IS IT? THE E TWO LEVEL TWO LEVEL LEVEL TWO.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL CITED THE PACIFIC GAS AND ELECTRIC COMPANY ENERGY SOLUTIONS, AND I WENT DOWN A RABBIT HOLE OF LIKE ALL THE STUDIES AND ALL THE CITATIONS.
UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT HIGHLIGHTS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST CHEAPER TO INSTALL IT WHEN YOU'RE CONSTRUCTING THE PRODUCT RATHER THAN GOING BACK.
WITH MANY OF THE NEWER PRODUCTS, LIKE WHETHER IT'S A WASHING MACHINE OR A DRYER OR A COFFEE MAKER, IT REQUIRES THAT, UH, SECOND LEVEL AND NOT LEVEL ONE.
UH, AND THAT'S LIKE A, A COST AND A BURDEN PUT ON, UM, OUR HOMEOWNERS.
UM, SO IF IT'S CHEAPER TO HAVE IT INSTALLED A NEW CONSTRUCTION RATHER THAN THE HOMEOWNER NEEDING TO BREAK THEIR WALLS AND INSERT THE NEW WIRING, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, UM, I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
BUT YEAH, I MEAN, EVERYTHING'S GENERALLY YEAH.
FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION, SO I UNDERSTAND.
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YOU.SO MIKE, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AN AMENDMENT.
YOU ARE EITHER LOOKING FOR ACTION FOR US TO MOVE THIS FORWARD OR FOR US TO MOVE PART OF THE ENERGY CODE FORWARD.
WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR US, FOR US? WELL, I'M, I'M CERTAINLY LOOKING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, UH, THIS COMMITTEE TO SAY, SHOULD WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE 21? AND IF YOU HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I'M BRINGING TO YOU TODAY, UH, YOU CAN ADD THOSE OR, YOU KNOW, VOTE ON THEM.
AND, AND WE CAN, AGAIN, SIMILAR TO, I THINK WE HAD ANOTHER CODE WHERE WE HAD, UH, SOME AMENDMENTS ADDED TO, UH, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OR THE, OR THE PROCESS THAT, THAT GOT TO HEAR RECOMMENDATION.
SO, UM, AGAIN, MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO ATTACH THIS TO THE NOVEMBER 10TH GROUP OF CODES.
AND, UH, BUT, BUT CERTAINLY IF YOU WANT TO ADD OR SUBTRACT ANY OF MY RECOMMENDATIONS, CERTAINLY FEEL FREE.
WELL, BECAUSE WHAT I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING, WHERE WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON IS, IS THAT WE MOVE THIS FORWARD WITH THE EV READY HOME, UM, BECAUSE I WANNA SEE THIS DONE, OUR ENERGY CODE DONE, AND THEN I WANNA SEE OUR COUNCIL COLLEAGUES POSSIBLY, UM, MOVE THIS FORWARD.
I, I LIKE THE, UH, AND I, I DID GET TO MEET WITH SIERRA CLUB AND, UM, THE REQUIRING LARGE BUILDINGS, I'M NOT OKAY WITH MOVING THAT FORWARD BECAUSE I THINK IT'S PART OF OUR BENCHMARKING THAT WE'RE DOING, UM, WHERE WE'RE LEAVING IT AS IT IS WITH THE, UH, 100,000 AND THEN FINDING A WAY TO DO THIS DURING BENCHMARKING.
SO OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT I'VE RECEIVED FROM BOTH, I THINK THE EV READY HOMES WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON, AND, UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE THE CEILING INSULATION.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE IT FORWARD WITH THE CHANGES TO THE EV READY HOME AND THE CEILING INSULATION FROM, TO ADOPT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION VALUE OF 49.
I MAKE THAT MO AND THE REST OF THE ENERGY CODE, I DON'T KNOW IF MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES WANNA ADD OTHERS.
THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.
MIKE, YOU WANNA RESPECT? I JUST WANT IT WAS, UH, FOR THE LEVEL TWO RATHER THAN LEVEL ONE ON THE EV YES.
AND UTILIZING THE 49 VERSUS THE 38 CEILING R VALUE.
I, I'M JUST WRITING DOWN MY NOTES, BUT I, OKAY.
AND I THINK WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FROM THREE TO 5%.
I DON'T KNOW IF, IF YOU WERE OKAY WITH THAT COUNCILMAN, BUT WOULD IT HAVE BE TAKEN UP ALSO IN THIS, THE CAPABLE PARKING AND EXPLAIN TO ME THE CAPABLE PARKING, WOULD THAT BE FOR NEW BUILDS, UH, MULTIFAMILY ONLY, OR WOULD THAT BE FOR MULTIFAMILY AND LIKE, OR JUST A PARKING, PARKING GARAGES? IT WAS JUST APARTMENTS.
I, I'M, I'M, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT ALSO.
SO APARTMENTS AT 5% RATHER THAN THE 3% PROPOSED MM-HMM.
SO THOSE ARE THREE, THREE ITEMS AND THAT WERE OKAY.
AND THEN COUNCILMAN COURAGE, UH, I THINK YOU WANTED TO CHIME IN AGAIN.
I'D, I'D REALLY LIKE US TO ADVOCATE FOR HAVING NEW OFFICE CONSTRUCTION.
UH, HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE ENERGY MANAGEMENT IN THERE AT A, AT EVEN A LOWER, UH, LEVEL THAN A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE ARE HOPING TO DO A, OR, OR HAVE BUSINESSES JOIN TOGETHER AND SAY, WE'RE GONNA COMPARE OUR ENERGY USE.
WE'RE GONNA REPORT IT TO THE CITY.
WE'RE GONNA USE THAT AS OUR INVE PART OF OUR ENVIRONMENTAL EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THE CITY CAN MEET ITS CAP.
BUT IT WASN'T SAID THAT IT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE AT A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
WE EVEN SAID WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO GET DOWN TO 50,000 IN THAT COMPARISON AND EVEN DOWN TO 25,000.
BUT IF WE'RE SAYING WE'RE ONLY GOING TO HAVE NEW HOMES OR, OR NEW OFFICES AT A HUNDRED THOUSAND, THEN HOW WILL THEY BE ABLE TO MEET THE 50 OR 25 THAT WE MAY BRING UP TWO OR THREE YEARS DOWN THE LINE WITHOUT HAVING TO SPEND MORE MONEY.
BUT IF THEY PUT IT IN WHEN IT'S BUILT, THEN IT'S, IT'S AVAILABLE.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD SAY THAT WE OUGHT TO AT LEAST GO DOWN TO 50,000.
I COULD SEE 25, BUT A 25,000 SQUARE FOOT BUSINESS, UH, BUILDING IS NOT GOING TO BE, UH, IT'S GONNA BE COSTING LESS TO THE PROPERTY BUYER.
AND IF WE'RE ADDING MORE COST TO THAT LOWER LEVEL, IT MAKES IT EVEN MORE CHALLENGING.
BUT IF WE ADD IT TO A 50,000 OR A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT, I THINK PEOPLE BUYING OFFICE SPACE THAT BIG, UH, UNDERSTAND THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA BE SLIGHTLY GREATER COSTS.
SO I'D JUST LIKE TO SEE US BE ABLE TO SEE THE 50 SQUARE FOOT
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THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT BUILDINGS BE ABLE TO PART BE PART OF OUR PROCESS IN THE FUTURE WITH NEW BUILDINGS.SO, YOU KNOW, I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE REALLY NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, I, I THINK IT'S, UH, ANOTHER IMPORTANT PART OF TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE GONNA MEET OUR CAP LONG RANGE AS WE, AS WE LOOK AT THESE COMPARISONS OF BUILDINGS.
MIKE, IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROPOSED ONES THAT EVERYONE'S COMFORTABLE WITH TODAY, CAN YOU BRING US SOME MORE INFORMATION ON COUNCILMAN COURAGES BY THE TIME THAT WE GO TO FULL COUNCIL? YES, I, DOES THAT GIVE YOU TIME? YEAH, I WOULD JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT SPECIFIC INFORMATION, UH, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, I CAN PULL OUT, UH, HOW MANY, UH, BUILDINGS WERE PERMITTED OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND, BETWEEN 50 AND A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
AND I'M ASSUMING THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE AT THAT POINT? UH, AND, AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE AN EVALUATION, UH, ABOUT CAP AND, AND THE PROCESS WE'RE SETTING UP, UH, TO ASK PROPERTY MANAGERS TO MANAGE THEIR ENERGY TO REPORT IT SO THAT WE CAN ASSESS HOW IT'S MOVING YEAH.
AND HOW THAT WOULD FIT INTO THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE LAID OUT FOR DOING THAT.
AND, AND I'LL, AND I'LL JUST, I'LL, I'LL GET THAT TO THIS, THIS GROUP.
UM, REMEMBER THIS ENERGY MONITORING SYSTEM IS INTERNAL USE ONLY.
IT HA IT IS NOT REQUIRING THEM TO USE THE, THE, I THINK IT'S THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY TOOL, ENERGY STAR PORTFOLIO.
OUR PORTFOLIO TOOL, WHICH IS, WHICH IS OVER HERE WITH THE CAP.
SO IT THEY ARE, THEY'RE DIFFERENT.
BUT I, BUT I'LL KIND OF, I'LL OH, I'M SORRY.
AND MIKE'S RIGHT, UH, DOUG, ME, THE CHIEF SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SEPARATE.
UH, THE, THE, THE BENCHMARKING, UM, PROGRAM THAT WE'VE BEEN, UH, DISCUSSING FOR A WHILE NOW, AS MIKE MENTIONED, USES, UM, UH, EPAS ENERGY STORE PORTFOLIO MANAGER.
AND THE, THE, THE INTENT OF THAT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BENCHMARKING AGAINST A PEER, UM, UH, PEER, PEER BUILDINGS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
UH, WHAT THIS IS REALLY IS INTERNAL, UH, IT'S PROVIDING THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE BUILDINGS.
BUILDINGS OVER A HUNDRED, A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT ABOVE ARE PROBABLY ALREADY INCORPORATING THIS INTO THEIR DESIGN.
UM, YOU KNOW, I GUESS, AND MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE BENEFIT, YOU KNOW, TO HAVING SMALLER BUILDINGS, UM, HAVE THAT SAME DATA AS WELL? WON'T THEY HAVE TO REFER TO THEIR SYSTEM TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS? THEY DON'T.
UM, I THINK WHAT THEY'LL GET FROM THAT, UM, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS A LOT MORE DETAIL UPWARDS OF, YOU KNOW, 15 MINUTE INTERVALS OF DATA USE.
UM, WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ON THE, THE, THE BROADER SCALE, UM, IS MUCH, UM, MUCH BROADER.
IT'S WHAT'S YOUR ANNUAL ENERGY USE? UH, SO IT GIVES YOU, IT'LL GIVE THEM A, A DOT COMPARISON AGAINST SIMILAR BUILDINGS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, BUT IT WON'T GIVE THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, REALLY THAT MUCH DETAIL, UM, DATA WHICH WILL BE BENEFICIAL FOR PROPERTY MANAGERS.
WELL THEN I'LL WITHDRAW MY CONCERN.
ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO ADD? ALRIGHT, LET'S TAKE A VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR TO MOVE THIS FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FULL DISCUSSION.
ANY, OH, SPECIFICALLY THAT YOU ALL ARE VOTING OH, WITH THE AMENDMENTS? UH, WE'RE MOVING THIS WITH THE, THE, THE RECOMMENDED THE THREE AMENDMENTS, SO WE NEED TO BE SPECIFIC ON THE RECORD.
WHAT IT'S OKAY, YOU GUYS ARE MOVING FORWARD.
SO WE'LL VOTE ON THE AMENDMENTS FIRST.
SO, UM, ON THE LEVEL TWO CHARGER ON FROM 3% TO 5%, UM, THE PARKING CAPACITY AND ON THE EV PARKING CAPACITY, AND THEN ON THE, UH, INSULATION FROM UP TO 49 STEALING.
ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE WILL BE TAKING TO THE FULL COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER 10TH, CORRECT? YES.
AND, AND ONE OTHER POINT OF CLARIFICATION IS THAT THE WAY STAFF IS GONNA PRESENT THIS TO THE COUNCIL IS THAT STAFF IS GONNA PRESENT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA PRESENT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, DEBBIE.
SO NOW YOU WOULD WANNA HAVE MAIN MOTION YES.
TO FORWARD IT WITH THE AMENDMENTS? ALRIGHT, SO NOW LET'S TAKE A A VOTE FOR THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION OR FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS WITH OUR AMENDMENTS TO FULL CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.