[00:00:03]
ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU'D START TO HEAD TO YOUR SEATS.
COMMISSIONERS, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLEASE HEAD TO YOUR SEATS.
I NEED THE LITTLE, UH, STYLOPHONE.
GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
UH, IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE OUR SPANISH INTERPRETATION SERVICES STATEMENT.
ONCE AGAIN, UH, C O V D IS STILL OUT LURKING, AS IS THE FLU, ET CETERA.
WE ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO GO GET BOOSTED, TAKE THE REQUISITE VACCINES AND IF YOU FEEL SICK, STAY HOME.
UM, MY NAME IS JOHN BUSTAMANTE AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT FIVE ZONING COMMISSIONER.
I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION END SESSION.
ALRIGHT, I'D LIKE TO DO ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT.
MARK BARROS, UH, DISTRICT NINE, MARK WHITE, DISTRICT 10.
THIS IS SIR KAMATH FROM DISTRICT FOUR VO ORTIZ.
SUMMER GRADE HOUSE DISTRICT ONE.
DISTRICT SEVEN CHARLES FUENTES FOR DISTRICT THREE.
ALRIGHT, STAFF, DO WE HAVE A QUORUM? MCC QUORUM IS PRESENT.
WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ALRIGHT, PRIOR TO BEGINNING, IF STAFF COULD PLEASE GO OVER UH, THE MEETING FORMAT FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE.
BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF.
THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY A APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION.
YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER.
STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST.
PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT.
PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN X INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION.
FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING.
YOU WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND ARE AND YOU ARE NOT OBLIGED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION.
YOU WILL HEAR THAT YOU WILL, YOU WILL HEAR A TIMER UH, GO OFF WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP.
YOU WILL UM, FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES.
THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK.
THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS.
ARE THERE ANY POSTPONED OR WITHDRAWN ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA? YES THERE IS.
ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER ONE UM, IS A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO R FOUR CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 2 0 3 OBER OVERDRAWN.
ALRIGHT, UM, IS POSTPONING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
UH, THAT CASE, UH, ITEM NUMBER ONE IS POSTPONED.
THAT MEANS WE WILL NOT HEAR IT AGAIN WITHOUT NOTICE BEING PROVIDED JUST AS IT WAS PROVIDED HERE.
SO IF ANY OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE ARE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER ONE, YOU CAN GO ABOUT YOUR DAY, ENJOY THE VERY NICE DAY WE'RE HAVING AND WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME.
[Zoning Items ]
STAFF, IF YOU CAN GO OVER THE ITEMS ON OUR COMBINED HEARING, NUMBER ONE, PLEASE.[00:05:01]
OKAY.FOR CONSENT AGENDA, WE START WITH ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
I APOLOGIZE FOR CONSENT AGENDA, WE'RE MOVING.
UM, WE'RE GOING WITH NUMBER EIGHT, NUMBER 1113.
NUMBER 17, NUMBER 19, NUMBER 20, 21, 22 AND THEN NUMBER 12 WILL BE AFTER RECUSAL.
ALRIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE HERE TO ADDRESS, UH, ITEMS NUMBER 8 11 13, 17, 19, 20, 21, 22.
THOSE ITEMS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR CONSENT, WHICH MEANS THEY'LL BE HANDLED ALL AT ONCE.
SO IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THOSE ITEMS, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO TALK TO STAFF RIGHT NOW.
COMMISSIONERS ARE THERE ANY, ANY OTHER ITEMS YOU WOULD LIKE PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION OR CONTINUANCE? LOOKING TO MY LEFT, LOOKING TO MY RIGHT, SEEING NONE, IF WE COULD READ THE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
NUMBER ONE INTO THE RECORD PLEASE.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO R FOUR CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 1201 KENTUCKY AVENUE, 31 NOTICES WERE SENT.
TWO IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED WOODLAWN LAKE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT AND THEY ARE WANTING TO AMEND A SITE PLAN AND THERE IS ALSO A VOICEMAIL IN SUPPORT.
ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM M P C D TO MF 18 WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 1600 BLOCK OF CABLE RANCH ROAD.
ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THERE WAS ONE NOTICE IN FAVOR OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET FOR ITEM NUMBER 13.
WE HAVE A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO C TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 6 1 8 0 WALHAM ROAD THERE WERE SEVEN NOTICES SENT.
ZERO IN FAVOR AND ZERO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 17 IS A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM MF 33 TO C TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 8 2 3 1 BROADWAY 14 NOTICES WERE SENT.
ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM OAK PARK NORTHWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
OKAY, ITEM NUMBER 19 IS A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I ONE TO NC WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 2 3 1 6 SOUTH FLORES STREET.
COLLINS GARDEN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR AND NO RESPONSE FROM LONE STAR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 20 IS A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I ONE TO C TWO GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 9,800 BLOCK OF BRAUN ROAD.
ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 21 IS A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES FULL SERVICE TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK REPAIR WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
THEY DO HAVE AN AMENDED SITE PLAN LOCATED AT 5 9 1 5 RANDOLPH BOULEVARD.
ONE OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM ROYAL RIDGE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
AND ITEM NUMBER 22 WAS A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO R FOUR WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 5,800 BLOCK OF STONY CREEK DRIVE.
ZERO OPPOSED IN SOUTHWEST COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT PLEASE OR APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PLEASE COME FORWARD.
[00:10:04]
ALRIGHT.AND I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM FOR THE RECORD THAT YOU ARE AMENDING YOUR SITE PLAN FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT? YES.
ALRIGHT, AND WOULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND TELL US YOUR ADDRESS? I'M DIGNA NORRIS.
MY ADDRESS IS 1 2 0 1 KENTUCKY AVENUE.
ALRIGHT, IF I COULD ALSO HAVE THE APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER 21 PLEASE OR APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE.
UM, DELANEY NIKKER KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN.
AND YES, WE WOULD LIKE TO AMEND OUR SITE PLAN.
UH, STAFF, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY ITEMS IN THE CONSENT AGENDA? VOICEMAIL.
WE HAVE A VOICEMAIL FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
AND THE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT ZONING CASE? YES.
THESE COMMENTS ARE FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, ZONING CASE Z 2 0 2 2 1 0 7 0 2 6 1 CD ADDRESS.
1 2 0 1 KENTUCKY LOCATED IN DISTRICT ONE IN THE WOODLAWN LAKE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION.
BOUNDARIES WITHIN THE NEAR NORTHWEST COMMUNITY PLAN AREA AND ALSO WITHIN THE WOODLAWN LAKE CONSERVATION DISTRICT.
I'M AN M P N A BOARD MEMBER OFFERING COMETS ON BEHALF OF DREA GARZA, PRESIDENT OF THE MONTICELLO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE MONTICELLO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOARD OF DIRECTORS PO BOX +1 003-157-8201.
MY PHONE NUMBER'S (210) 385-6188.
WE OFFER OUR SUPPORT TO THE WOODLAWN LAKE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION AND THEIR POSITION ON THIS CASE TO SUPPORT OUR FOUR WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS BASED ON THE REVISED SITE PLAN SUBMITTED LAST WEEK.
AND BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS OWNER OCCUPIED, WE THANK THE APPLICANT FOR MEETING WITH AND RESPONDING TO THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS FOR THIS ZONING CASE.
THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION FOR THIS R FOUR SINGLE FAMILY CORNER LOT BUT THROUGH COLLABORATION BY ALL PARTIES THE SITE PLAN WAS MODIFIED AND DETAILED TO ADDRESS CONCERNS OF IMPERVIOUS COVER, MASSING AND SCALE THE WOODLAWN LAKE N C D GUIDELINES AND SCREENING TO MINIMIZE THE INTRUSION OF VEHICLE OPERATIONS TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERATION OF OUR COMMENTS FOR THIS CASE.
ALRIGHT STAFF, ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? NO.
AND AS A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
I ALWAYS, AND I THINK THE COMMISSION ALWAYS ENCOURAGES YOU TO WORK WITH YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AS YOU SEEK REZONING REQUESTS.
UM, IS THERE A MOTION MR. CHAIR? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ITEMS ITEM NUMBER EIGHT WITH AMENDED SITE PLAN.
ITEM 11 13 17 19, 20 21 WITH THE AMENDED SITE PLAN AND 22, IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ WITH A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SIPES.
DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT TO MY RIGHT.
THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF THE ITEMS AS READ ON THE RECORD BY COMMISSIONER SIPES WITH A SECOND BY, UH, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ.
[00:15:01]
AYE.AT THIS TIME WE WILL ASK COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE TO LEAVE THE HEARING ROOM AS SHE HAS RECUSED.
THE TIME IS ONE 15 AND LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS LEFT THIS HEARING ROOM.
UH, STAFF IF YOU WOULD, UH, READ ITEM 12 INTO THE RECORD PLEASE.
FOR ITEM NUMBER 12 IS ASSIGNING ZONING, UH, TO 5 7 0 6 COLEMAN WAY AND 1 3 5 9 2 CAMPGROUND ROAD BY APPLYING MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, UM, ZONING DISTRICT 15 NOTICES WERE SENT.
ZERO IN FAVOR AND ZERO OPPOSED.
WERE RECEIVED AND THERE IS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UM, IS THERE A MOTION MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE YOU TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 12.
ALRIGHT, SO SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT TO MY RIGHT.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ANY OF THE ITEMS WE JUST COVERED, YOU ARE FREE TO GO.
YOU WILL NOW PROCEED TO CITY COUNCIL.
GOOD LUCK TO YOU AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
THE TIME IS ONE 16 AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS RETURNED TO THE HEARING ROOM.
STAFF AT THIS TIME WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ON TO OUR CONTINUANCE HEARING FOR NOVEMBER 15TH.
THESE ITEMS ARE FOR OUR, UH, MEANT FOR CONTINUANCE TO NOVEMBER 15TH.
WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FIVE TO I D Z ONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR SIX DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 1527 HILLCREST DRIVE.
ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED, AND NO RESPONSE FROM DONALDSON TERRACE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO R FOUR CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 1823 WEST CRAIG PLACE, 31 NOTICES WERE SENT.
THREE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED.
AND WOODLAWN LAKE IS REQUE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE AND THERE WERE SEVEN IN FAVOR OUTSIDE 200 FEET.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C THREE R TO I D IDZ.
TWO WITH USES PERMITTED IN MF 33 WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 300 BLOCK OF SOUTH NEW BRAUNFELS 11 NOTICES WERE SENT.
ZERO OPPOSED DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN OPPOSITION AND TWO IN FAVOR OUT.
WERE RECEIVED OUTSIDE 200 FEET.
ITEM NUMBER 10 IS A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO MF 18 WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 8 3 4 SOUTHWEST 36TH STREET.
OPPOSED LOS HARENA IN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED ONE IN FAVOR OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET.
ITEM NUMBER 15 IS A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO I D Z ONE WITH ALL OVERLAYS.
OH, I'M SORRY TO I D Z ONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR FIVE DWELLING UNITS AND FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 9 4 4 6 AS SPOT A ROAD.
OPPOSED? AND VIA CORONADO IS IN OPPOSITION.
AND THEN ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO R FOUR WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT ONE 14 OLIPHANT THERE WERE 26 NOTICES SENT OUT.
[00:20:01]
ZERO IN FAVOR.AND TOBIN HILL N NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE MONTE VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THESE ITEMS? YES, THERE ARE VOICEMAILS.
UM, FOR, DO, DO ITEM NUMBER SIX AND FOR ITEM NUMBER 15.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HEAR THOSE NOW.
THIS IS FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, ZONING CASE Z 2 2 2 DASH HUNDRED 7 0 2 4 8 C D ADDRESS, 1 23 WEST CRAIG DISTRICT SEVEN, LOCATED IN THE WOODLAWN LAKE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION, THE NEAR NORTHWEST COMMUNITY PLAN AREA AND THE WOODLAWN LAKE CONSERVATION DISTRICT.
OFFERING COMMENTS ON BEHALF OF DREA GARZA, PRESIDENT OF MONTICELLO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE MONTICELLO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOARD OF DIRECTORS PO BOX 1 0 0 3 1 5 7 8 2 0 1 WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE INVOLVED IN THE DISCUSSIONS PERTAINING TO THE ZONING CASE FOR 1823 WEST CRAIG AND UNDERSTAND BASED ON A MEETING HELD AT 6:00 PM ON FRIDAY, OCTOBER 28TH, 2022 WITH THE WOODLAWN LAKE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION ZONING COMMITTEE AND THE APPLICANT, HE HAS REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE FOR TODAY'S MEETING FOR HIS ZONING CASE.
M P N A SUPPORTS A CONTINUANCE ON THIS CASE TO ENSURE THE APPLICANT RESPONDS TO THE CONCERNS RAISED BY THE COMMUNITY DURING THE MEETING ON FRIDAY.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO FUTURE MEETINGS WITH THE APPLICANT BEFORE THE CASE RETURNS BACK TO ZONING AGAIN.
THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERATION OF OUR COMMENTS.
YES, THIS IS FOR AGENDA ITEM WELCOME, MARTINEZ
UM, WE BEING THE VEHICLE, ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, LOS ORGANIZATION AND SOME CONCERNS, RESIDENTS THAT WE SPOKE TO KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE PLANS FOR THIS 1.823 ACRES OR WHY AN I B Z IS NEEDED.
SO, UM, THEREFORE WE ASKED FOR A CONTINUANCE TO GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THE APPLICANT AND GET THE DETAILED WRITTEN PLAN INFORMATION FOR THIS HISTORIC AREA.
WE JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHY THEY WANTED AN I D Z AND WHAT THE PLANS ARE BECAUSE WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT.
SO, UH, PLEASE, UH, WE'RE ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE OF THIS JUST SO THAT WE CAN GET THE FAX AND INFORMATION FROM THE APPLICANT.
THEY SHOULD HAVE OUR EMAIL ADDRESS OM THIRTEEN@AOL.COM.
PHONE NUMBER TWO TEN THREE NINE THREE SIX NINE FOUR FOUR.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THESE ITEMS? THERE IS NOT.
IS THERE A MOTION? MR. CHAIR? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCES TO THE NOVEMBER 15TH MEETING FOR THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ITEMS NUMBER 4 6 7 10 15 AND 16.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO NOVEMBER 15TH BY COMMISSIONER S SIPES.
DISCUSSION TO MY LEFT TO MY RIGHT.
MOTION IS FOR CONTINUANCE TO NOVEMBER 15TH FOR THE ITEMS AS READ ON THE RECORD BY COMMISSIONER S SIPES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
WE WILL NOW HEAR ITEM NUMBER TWO, UH, WHICH IS SET FOR CONTINUANCE TO 12 SIX.
AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WERE HERE FOR THE PREVIOUS ITEMS, YOU CAN GO ON YOUR WAY.
FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO, WE HAVE A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO M F 18 WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 1 2 5 0 5 WALLER ROAD, 22 NOTICES WERE SENT.
ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, TWO RECEIVED OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE HILLS OF RIVER MIST.
H O A ONE IN FAVOR OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET AND THE GREATER EDWARDS AQUIFER ALLIANCE IS IN OPPOSITION.
UH, IS THERE A MOTION, MR. CHAIR? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR, UH, CONTINUANCE TO THE DECEMBER 6TH MEETING FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO.
[00:25:01]
SECOND I'LL SECOND.UH, I'M GONNA GO WITH COMMISSIONER ORTIZ THIS TIME.
IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? OOPS.
I, MY NAME IS ALEXANDER BOCHE.
I LIVE AT 1 2 0 2 2 WATER VALLEY.
I'M IN THE HILLS OF RIVER MISS NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'M CALLING FOR THE CASE ENDING IN 0 1 5 1 E R Z D.
AND I'M CALLING TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION FOR THE REZONING ON WALLER ROAD.
UH, JUST, AGAIN, JUST VOICING MY OPPOSITION AGAINST THE DECISION TO REZONE IT INTO THE MULTIFAMILY ZONING AREA.
I LIVE AT 81 0 7 ROCKWELL VISTA IN SAN ANTONIO, 7 8 2 4 9.
I'M CALLING IN REGARD TO CASE Z DASH 2022 DASH 1 0 7 1 51.
UM, CHANGING FROM A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREA TO A LIMITED DUSTING MULTI-FAMILY AREA.
I WOULD LIKE TO BE ON RECORD AS BEING OPPOSED.
I DID NOT RECEIVE THIS NOTICE VIA EMAIL UNTIL 4 38, THEREFORE, I WAS NOT GIVEN ADEQUATE TIME TO EMAIL MY, MY RESPONSE.
AGAIN, ANDREA RAZ AND MY NUMBER IS TWO TEN FIVE ZERO ONE EIGHT THREE TWO SEVEN.
I LIVE WITHIN THE HILLS OF RIVER MISS NEIGHBORHOOD AND I AM CALLING IN REGARDS OF THE CASE ENDING IN 0 1 5 1 E R LIKE RICHARD, Z LIKE ZEBRA, D LIKE DAVID.
I AM IN OPPOSITION OF THE PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT CHANGE FROM R SIX TO MF 18.
I DO NOT WANT THIS TO GO THROUGH.
UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO LEAVE A MESSAGE AND STATE THAT MY CELL PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 501-8341.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER? PUBLIC COMMENT? NO.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO THE DECEMBER 6TH MEETING AND IT IS SECONDED.
ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? TO MY LEFT.
AND LET ME NOTE FOR THE RECORD, AT 1 24, COMMISSIONER LIA HOLLAND JOINED THE MEETING.
UM, AT THIS TIME, MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE TO DECEMBER 6TH.
FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.
COMMISSIONER LEGIA HOLLAND ABSTAIN.
IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THIS ITEM, YOU CAN GO ALONG YOUR WAY.
THANK YOU TO THE MIKES MIKE BARR AND MY ANTE FOR BEING HERE.
IT'S A SAD DAY WHEN WE DON'T GET TO HEAR FROM YOU,
I CAN SEE THE DISAPPOINTMENT ON YOUR FACE.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE NOW GONNA, NOW GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING ITEMS. UH, STARTING WITH ITEM NUMBER THREE, PLEASE.
ELIZABETH STEWART, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER THREE IS LOCATED AT 2200 MCCULLOUGH AVENUE, GOING FROM C TWO AND R SIX TO I D Z TWO USES IN C TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 49 NOTICES MAILED TWO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, SEVEN OPPOSED WITHIN 200 FEET.
THE TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT AND MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.
THE EXISTING C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS IN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE EXISTING R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS ALSO AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE REQUESTED I D Z TWO WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS ALSO APPROPRIATE AS IT IS LOCATED ALONG MCCULLOUGH AVENUE.
A PREDOMINANTLY COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ALSO CARRY THE I D Z IN FIELD DEVELOPMENT ZONE C ONE LIGHT COMMERCIAL AND C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ZONING DESIGNATIONS.
STAFF DOES NOT FIND LIKELY EVIDENCE OF ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE REQUESTED I D Z TWO, MEDIUM INTENSITY AND FIELD DEVELOPMENT ZONE WOULD ALLOW
[00:30:01]
THE SAME BASE ZONING USES AS THE CURRENT C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO A PRESCRIBED SITE PLAN AND A HEIGHT LIMITATION OF NO MORE THAN FOUR STORIES.STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.
UH, IF WE COULD GET THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PLEASE.
UH, JAMES GRIFFIN, KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN TEN TEN ONE REUNION PLACE, UH, HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
UM, UH, AND I GUESS BEFORE I FORGET 'CAUSE I SAW THE SITE PLAN UP THERE, WE WOULD LIKE TO FORMALLY, UH, REPLACE, SUBMIT OUR SITE PLAN.
UH, WE'VE UPDATED IT TO INCLUDE A A HANDFUL OF CONDITIONS AND I'LL, I'LL GO INTO MORE DETAIL ON THAT.
UM, WE CAN KIND OF SEE HOW, HOW BUSY THE, THE SITE PLAN IS NOW WITH THOSE CONDITIONS ADDED.
SO, UM, WITH, WITH THAT OUTTA THE WAY, UM, AND AGAIN, I'LL, I'LL GET BACK TO TO, TO THAT WITH MORE DETAIL.
UM, UH, THIS PROJECT, UM, WELL, IT'S BEEN BEFORE Y'ALL SEEMINGLY A, A DOZEN TIMES OR SO, UM, WITH CONTINUANCES, I THINK, I THINK WE SET A NEW RECORD THERE.
UM, BUT WE'VE HAD A, A LOT OF WORK TO DO, UH, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND A LOT OF CHANGES TO THIS PROJECT.
A LOT OF, UH, KIND OF MODIFICATIONS TO THE DESIGN, UM, AND THEN DRILLING DOWN ON, UH, THOSE CONDITIONS THAT, UH, JUST REFERENCED AND, AND WE'LL GET TO IN MORE DETAIL, UH, REAL QUICK.
IT'S, UH, MCCULLOUGH, UM, JUST NORTH OF ASHBY.
UH, IT IS IN TOBIN HILL RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM MONTE VISTA.
UH, ALSO RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET YOU SEE SAN ANTONIO ACADEMY.
UH, THEY'RE ACTUALLY THE, THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY, UH, AND OWNED IT FOR SEVERAL YEARS TRYING TO MAKE SOMETHING WORK OUTTA THIS PROPERTY.
BUT, UM, A HANDFUL OF REASONS.
THE THE SHAPE OF THE BUILDING UNUSABLE, BUILT IN THE SIXTIES, REALLY BAD SHAPE.
UM, WON'T GO INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL, UH, BUT OTHER THAN PROBABLY OTHER PRIMARY REASON CAN'T BE USED FOR ANYTHING SCHOOL RELATED IS BECAUSE OF MCCULLOUGH AND, AND HOW BUSY IT IS.
UH, IF YOU'VE DRIVEN THAT PART OF MACOLA, UH, IT, IT'S REALLY KIND OF A, SOME ROLLING HILLS, UM, AND NOT GOOD FOR KIDS, TEACHERS OR ANYBODY ELSE TO, TO BE RUNNING ACROSS THE STREET, I GUESS IS THE, THE POINT THERE.
UM, BUT BACK TO WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.
UM, SO PROPERTY IS, UH, I'LL CALL IT 1.25 ACRES.
UH, AN ACRE OF THAT IS C TWO CURRENTLY.
UM, THE, THE BACK LITTLE HANDLE THERE, UH, THAT IS ALL PAVED PARKING AND, AND PARKING AND, AND HAS BEEN FOR DECADES IS R SIX.
UH, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS, UH, REZONE THE ENTIRE SITE TO I D Z WITH C TWO USES, UH, WHICH WOULD ALLOW SELF-STORAGE, CLIMATE CONTROLLED, SELF-STORAGE BUILDING, UM, WHICH IS A C TWO USE.
SO IT WOULD BE PERMITTED, UH, UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING FOR, YOU KNOW, THE ACRE OR SO OF THE SITE.
UM, BUT, UH, THE I D Z ALLOWS US TO, ONE, INCLUDE SOME CONDITIONS, UM, AND, AND TWO REALLY MAKE FOR A, A BETTER OVERALL PROJECT THAN, THAN SQUEEZING IT ON THE C TWO THERE.
SO THIS IS JUST A LITTLE BIT, UH, MORE ZOOMED OUT.
GIVE YOU AN IDEA, UH, OF WHAT ALL IS SURROUNDING US.
UH, REALLY A MIX OF, UH, EDUCATION INSTITUTIONAL USES.
AGAIN, YOU SEE THE ACADEMY AND KEYSTONE SCHOOL THERE.
GOT THE POST OFFICE, UH, COMMERCIAL BUILDING TO OUR SOUTH, SOME NEW, UH, RESIDENTIAL, UH, TOWN HOMES TO OUR NORTH AND, AND TO THE EAST.
AND, UM, OTHER, OTHER RESIDENTIAL OFFICE COMMERCIAL USES THERE.
WE ARE, UM, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE, WHICH ACTUALLY ISN'T CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT ZONING.
SO WE ARE SEEKING A PLAN AMENDMENT TO URBAN MIXED USE.
UH, SO HERE, UH, JUST KIND OF ZOOMED BACK IN SHOWING THE ZONING.
UH, AGAIN, MOST OF THE SITE AN ACRE IS C TWO.
UH, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THAT LINE, UH, IS DRAWN ON THE SITE.
UM, AND, AND AGAIN, C TWO ALLOWS FOR THE USE WE'RE REQUESTING HERE.
IF WE HAD TO SQUEEZE INTO THE C TWO, UH, IT, IT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED.
IT'D JUST BE A, A WORSE PROJECT, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM.
UM, AND, AND ACTUALLY WOULD BE A TALLER BUILDING, UM, LESS LANDSCAPING.
UH, AGAIN, JUST REALLY SQUEEZED INTO A, A SMALLER SPOT.
UH, AND THEN YOU STILL JUST HAVE PAVEMENT AND PARKING, UH, ON THAT R SIX PIECE, UH, WHICH AGAIN, HAS BEEN THERE SINCE THE SIXTIES, REALLY ALL THE WAY TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
UM, AGAIN, IF, IF WE WERE BUILDING IN THE C TWO, IT'S PERMITTED, WE'D, WE'D, UM, BE ABOUT 60 FEET HIGH THAT THE BUILDING WOULD BE.
UM, AND THAT'S THE C TWO'S 25 FOOT LIMIT.
BUT YOU GET, YOU KNOW, TWO EXTRA FEET FOR EVERY FOOT BEYOND THE
[00:35:01]
MINIMUM SETBACKS AND, UM, AGAIN, TALLER, TALLER BUILDING, WORST PROJECT.HERE'S, HERE'S MORE SLIDES OF THE ZONING.
UH, YOU CAN SEE REALLY THE MIX OF ZONING, UH, IN THE AREA, UH, AND DEVELOPMENT, UM, MULTIFAMILY, MOSTLY COMMERCIAL ALONG MCCULLOUGH, UH, WITH REALLY THE, THE KIND OF PRIMARY COMMERCIAL, UH, INTERSECTION RIGHT THERE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN, UH, WITH THE ALLEN BUILDING, WHICH IS BEING REDEVELOPED, UM, THE CORNER OF MC AND ASHBY, BUT, UH, MOSTLY C TWO ALONG MACOLA KIND OF UP AND DOWN.
UH, HERE'S OUR, HERE'S OUR NEW SITE PLAN AND, AND AGAIN, APOLOGIES, UH, FOR IT LOOKING SO BUSY THERE.
BUT, UM, ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THE I D Z IS, UH, THAT WE CAN PUT ALL THESE CONDITIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS ON, UH, INTO THE SITE PLAN, ULTIMATELY INTO THE REZONING ORDINANCE.
UM, THE CONDITIONS, AND AGAIN, I'LL GET TO THESE IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, BUT, UH, COVER EVERYTHING FROM, FROM A CAP ON ON BUILDING HEIGHT, UH, MINIMUM LANDSCAPE BUFFERS, UH, NEW SIDEWALKS, LIGHTING, UH, NO POLE LIGHTING.
UH, ALL LIGHTING WILL BE AFFIXED TO THE BUILDING, UH, ON MOTION SENSORS SO IT'S NOT, UH, SHINING AT NIGHT UNLESS SOMEBODY IS, YOU KNOW, ON SITE.
UM, WHEN, WHEN THEY SHOULDN'T BE.
UM, UH, A LIMIT ON THE ACTUAL LIGHT OUTPUT OF 3000 KELVINS, WHICH IS THAT IT'S NOT THE BRIGHT WHITE.
UM, IF YOU HAVE BOUGHT THE WRONG LIGHT BULBS, UH, BEFORE, LIKE, LIKE I HAVE, UM, IT'S THAT SOFTER WHITE, UH, SOFTER, YOU KNOW, SOFTER GLOW.
UM, AGAIN, DOWNWARD FACING, LIMITED ON WHERE THEY ARE, WHEN THEY CAN BE ON HOW THEY SHINE.
UM, ALSO, UH, A LIMIT ON INTERIOR LIGHTING IF IT IS GOING TO SHINE OUT OF THE BUILDING.
YOU KNOW, IT CAN'T, CAN'T BE BRIGHT, UH, BRIGHTER THAN, THAN WHAT WOULD BE OUTSIDE.
NO, NO POLE SIGNAGE, NO MONUMENT SIGNAGE.
UH, LIMIT ON THE SIZE, NUMBER, LOCATION, UH, OF SIGNS THAT WILL BE ON THE BUILDING.
UM, AND, AND ALSO HOW THEY'RE LIT, UH, LIMIT ON TRAFFIC AND, AND THE USE OF TRUCKS.
AND, UH, A HANDFUL OF PROHIBITED USES.
BASICALLY ALL THE POTENTIALLY BAD, UH, USES OTHERWISE PERMITTED IN C TWO WILL BE RESTRICTED AGAINST.
UM, MOVING ON, THIS IS JUST A EASIER READ, EASIER TO READ VERSION, UH, OF THOSE CONDITIONS ON THE SITE PLAN.
SO MAYBE MOVE, MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE HERE.
UH, SO HERE'S A MORE TECHNICAL VERSION OF THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.
WITH THE REZONING, UH, YOU SEE THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT THERE WHERE WE'RE AT LEAST 50 FEET FROM, UH, ANY ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
UH, WE ALSO ABLE TO TAKE UP SOME OF THAT EXISTING PAVEMENT AND REPLACE WITH, UH, LANDSCAPE BUFFERS.
UM, THERE WILL BE, UH, ABOUT, UM, SHOULD, SHOULD BE MORE IN SOME PLACES, UM, 15 FEET OF NEW LANDSCAPING WHERE YOU SEE THE, UH, THE GREEN ALONG THE BACK PROPERTY LINE THERE.
UH, ALSO ALONG MCCULLOUGH, WHICH IS ALL ONE OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, ALMOST CONTINUOUS DRIVEWAYS, UH, THAT THAT USED TO BE ALLOWED DECADES AGO.
UM, SO A BETTER STREET SCAPE LANDSCAPING SIDEWALKS, A REDUCTION IN A NUMBER OF EXISTING DRIVEWAYS.
UM, THE FACILITY WILL BE GATED CONTROLLED ACCESS GATED, UM, AND IN THE BUILDING ITSELF, VERY SECURE AS FAR AS HOW YOU GET IN, HOW IT'S MONITORED.
UH, THE FACILITY IS ONLY OPEN TO CUSTOMERS BETWEEN 6:00 AM AND 10:00 PM UH, BUT CONSTANTLY MONITORED.
UH, MOVING ON, HERE'S JUST A BETTER VERSION OF, UH, WHAT, WHAT YOU SAW IN THAT LAST ONE, UH, WITHOUT THE MEASUREMENTS, BUT SHOWING, UH, MORE OF THE DETAIL ON THE LANDSCAPING, UH, AND HOW THE BUILDING SITS THERE AS WELL.
UH, SO HERE'S THE, UH, KIND OF CURRENT WORKING DESIGN OF THE BUILDING.
GONE THROUGH SEVERAL VERSIONS OF THIS BASED ON, UH, DISCUSSIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, UH, LOOKING AT BOTH WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND NOT SEE ON THE BUILDING, UM, ON THE NOT SEE SIDE.
UH, AND THIS INCLUDED AS A CONDITION AS WELL.
UM, NO VIEW OF INTERIOR STORAGE UNIT DOORS, NO, NO BIG WINDOWS WITH LIGHTS.
UM, I HAVE A EXAMPLE OF KIND OF WHAT WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THERE, UH, BUT Y'ALL MAY BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO PICTURE IT.
UM, YOU SEE THE, THE STORAGE DOORS FROM THE OUTSIDE, AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE, UH, PROHIBITED, UM, MIX OF BUILDING MATERIALS TO TRY TO, TRY TO BLEND IN AND, AND, UH, HAVE SOME ARTICULATION AS WELL TO, TO BREAK UP, UH, HOW THIS BUILDING LOOKS.
[00:40:01]
AGREEMENTS WITH, UH, PARTICULARLY, UH, TOPEN HILL IS TO HAVE SOME ONGOING DIALOGUE ON EXACTLY WHAT BUILDING MATERIALS TO USE, HOW THIS BUILDING WILL BE DESIGNED.UH, THOSE, UH, PICTURES AT THE BOTTOM ARE NEARBY BUILDINGS, COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, UM, RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, ALL WITHIN A BLOCK, UH, OF SOME BRICK THAT WILL BE INCORPORATED IN THAT DESIGN.
UH, ALSO YOU SEE THAT DOTTED LINE DOWN THERE, THAT'S WHERE THE BUILDING ACTUALLY STARTS.
UM, HEIGHT IS A, IS A, WAS A BIG CONCERN, UH, IS A, A BIG ISSUE.
UM, THE, WELL I BETTER, BETTER HURRY UP HERE.
UM, THE SITE, UM, FALLS ALMOST 10 FEET FROM NORTH TO SOUTH, SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT GRADE CHANGE TO REALLY SIT THE BUILDING DOWN ABOUT SIX TO EIGHT FEET.
UH, TOTAL BUILDING HEIGHT FROM STREET LEVEL.
UH, IF YOU'RE STANDING RIGHT THERE ON MACOLA, UH, WILL BE ABOUT 38 FEET, UH, LESS THAN 40 FEET.
I WILL, THANK YOU, MR. GRIFFIN.
UM, IF WE CAN JUST GO THROUGH THE REST REAL QUICK, UH, WON'T WASTE YOUR TIME ON THOSE, MAYBE FLIP THROUGH THOSE REAL QUICK.
UM, JUST SHOWING SOME OF THEIR SURROUNDING USES.
THAT'S WHAT WE ARE NOT, UM, AND WELL, I BETTER, I BETTER STOP.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? YES, WE DO.
ALRIGHT, MR. HERNANDEZ, YOU'D STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND THEN TELL US WHAT YOU THINK.
I'M AT 2 2 2 EAST RUSSELL PLACE, AND I, ALONG WITH ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE OPPOSED.
UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT AT LEAST ONE OF THE TWO PEOPLE THAT HAVE VOICED, UH, THEIR APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT ARE THE ACTUAL CURRENT OWNERS OF THE PROJECT, AND THEIR SALE IS CONTINGENT ON THE CHANGE BEING APPROVED.
MAYBE, UM, I WAS DESCRIBED, I, I WAS SURPRISED TO DISCOVER THAT MONTE VISTA AND TOBIN HILL CHANGED THEIR MINDS, UH, THEIR ADAMANT OPPOSITION TO THE PROJECT.
BUT, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE WAY THEY WERE CONVINCED IS THAT ESSENTIALLY THE DEVELOPER SAID, UH, YOU KNOW, APPROVE IT OR WE'RE GONNA MAKE THIS MUCH TALLER, MUCH UGLIER BUILDING.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T SIT RIGHT WITH ME.
UM, ANOTHER ISSUE I HAVE WITH THE PROPOSED CHANGE IS THAT THE DEVELOPER IS ESSENTIALLY ASKING YOU TO CONVERT, UH, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY SO THEY CAN BUILD THIS, UH, SELF-STORAGE FACILITY THAT NOBODY NEEDS.
THERE'S A BUNCH IN, YOU KNOW, A FEW MILES, UH, DISTANCE, UH, TO ID Z ZONING, WHICH, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT PROVIDES SPECIAL ALLOWANCES TO BUILD IN PLACES THAT OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, WOULDN'T ALLOW THOSE TYPES OF BUILDINGS TO GET BUILT.
THE CITY, UH, DEVELOPMENT CODE HAS A STATEMENT OF PURPOSE FOR I D Z, WHICH I THINK, UH, IS REALLY USEFUL IN THE CURRENT, UH, ANALYSIS TO PROVIDE FLEX FLEXIBLE STANDARDS FOR DEVELOPMENT AND REUSE OF UNDERUTILIZED PARCELS.
UM, URBAN DESIGN STANDARDS ARE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL SCALE TO PROMOTE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY, TO MAINTAIN THE UNIQUE CHARACTER OF THE CENTER, UH, TO FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF VACANT BYPASS LANDS OR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF UNDERUTILIZED BUILDINGS OR STRUCTURES WITHIN EXISTING BUILT UP AREAS.
UH, SO I ASK YOU, YOU KNOW, WHICH OF THESE PUBLIC GOALS ARE SERVED BY GIVING THIS DEVELOPER THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO BUILD A SELF-STORAGE BUILDING? UH, NOT JOBS, NOT PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, NOT WALKABILITY, NOT DENSITY.
AND, UH, I WOULD ARGUE NOT URBAN REDEVELOPMENT EITHER, BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS OWNING CHANGES ENTIRELY UNNECESSARY.
UH, I HAVE IT ON GOOD AUTHORITY THAT THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER NEVER LISTED THE RESIDENTIAL PART OF THE PROPERTY FOR SALE ON M L SS AS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY EVER.
I HAVE IT ON GOOD AUTHORITY THAT THE, UH, SELLER HAD MULTIPLE OTHER OFFERS, UM, PRESUMABLY, PRESUMABLY TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY AS IS.
AND, UH, MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL, AS THE, UM, REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DEVELOPER HAS OPENLY ADMITTED THEY DON'T NEED THE ZONING CHANGE EITHER.
THEY'RE WILLING TO GO FORWARD WITH THE ZONING AS IT EXISTS.
UM, AND THEY'RE SAYING THAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO SO REGARDLESS.
SO, UH, I'M ASKING YOU TODAY NOT TO CONVERT THIS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, WHICH THIS CITY CONTINUES TO BE IN DIRE NEED OF TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT IS GOING TO RUIN THE HOMES OF ME AND MY NEIGHBORS, DIMINISH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, UH, WORSENED SAN ANTONIO'S ACUTE SHORTING HOW, UH, HOUSING SHORTAGE.
ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE IS NONE.
ALRIGHT, MR. GRIFFIN, A SHORT REBUTTAL.
UM, YES, I, I I WILL TRY TO BE VERY QUICK.
UM, BOTH NEIGHBORHOODS WERE VERY MUCH OPPOSED AT THE BEGINNING.
UM, WE'VE BEEN HAVING QUITE A BIT OF CONVERSATIONS OVER, UH, PAST SEVERAL MONTHS WORKING THROUGH THOSE, SAW THE CONDITIONS.
UM, TWO OF PROBABLY THE, THE MAJOR CONCERNS THAT HAVE COME UP, UH, THAT WE'VE
[00:45:01]
SEEN ON, ON RESPONSES IN FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WERE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY.UH, AS FAR AS TRAFFIC GOES, SELF-STORAGE LITERALLY IS THE LOWEST TRAFFIC GENERATING USE OUT THERE.
UM, SIX CARS PER DAY, UH, IS THE AVERAGE, UH, MOST OF THOSE BEING ON THE WEEKEND.
UM, SAFETY BEING THE OTHER, THESE ARE EXTREMELY SECURE.
THESE ARE NOT THE OLD ROLL-UP STYLE PROJECTS THAT, THAT YOU'VE SEEN THAT I, I SHOWED ON THE PICTURE.
UM, MONITORED BOTH, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE THERE PHYSICALLY, UH, CAMERAS THROUGHOUT, UH, SEVERAL PROTECTIONS, GATES, UH, KEY KEYED AND, UH, KEYPAD LOCKS.
UH, YOU ALSO, WE HAD A COUPLE, UH, COMMENTS MADE, UH, IN OUR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT FOLKS WANTING RESIDENTIAL, BUT ALSO, UH, CONCERNED ABOUT THE ACADEMY AND THE, AND THE SCHOOL BEING ACROSS THE STREET, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL ONE, BE A MUCH BIGGER TRAFFIC GENERATOR.
TWO, THEN YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE COMPLAINTS THAT I'M, I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE HEARD MANY TIMES BEFORE, VALID OR OTHERWISE, UH, FOR MULTIFAMILY, WHERE YOU HAVE BALCONIES FACING THE SCHOOL WINDOWS HERE, YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE ANYBODY IN THERE TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK OUT OVER THE SCHOOL.
UM, AND, UH, THERE'S NO, UH, ABILITY, UM, FOR THAT, THE WAY THE BUILDING IS DESIGNED.
SO EXTREMELY LOW TRAFFIC COUNT, UH, ESPECIALLY COMPARED TO RESIDENTIAL, SAFE, SECURE.
UM, AND MAYBE I'LL, I PROBABLY WASN'T SHORT THERE, BUT, UM, I WILL SAY, YEAH, BOTH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE, ARE IN SUPPORT, UH, GIVEN ALL THESE CONDITIONS THAT WE'VE WORKED OUT AND ALL THE, ALL THE BENEFITS FIRST, FIRST OF ALL, ALTERNATIVES.
THIS IS A DISTRICT ONE CASE, SO WE WILL GO FIRST TO COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE FOR QUESTIONS.
UM, SORRY JAMES, JUST ONE, ONE QUESTION, UM, AND THEN I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR THE REST OF THE, UM, THE, THE COMMISSIONERS.
UM, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE RES IF THIS ZONING CHANGE WERE TO BE DENIED? WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE RESIDENTIAL PARCEL THAT'S THERE? 'CAUSE THERE'S LIKE THE ONE SMALL PORTION THAT IS RESIDENTIAL.
SO IT WOULD EITHER JUST REMAIN AS IS TODAY, WHICH IS PARKING AND PAVEMENT RIGHT UP TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
UH, OR THEY WOULD SELL THAT OFF.
UM, SO IT'D BE QUARTER ACRE OF R SIX RESIDENTIAL.
UM, AND I IMAGINE THAT WOULD TAKE A ZONING CASE TO MAKE ANYTHING VIABLE, UH, OUT OF THAT.
BUT THE ACRE OF C TWO WOULD REMAIN AS IS.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
WE WILL START, UH, ACTUALLY WITH COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT QUESTIONS.
YEAH, JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, AND I MAY HAVE MISSED A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY OF THIS, UH, PROPOSAL.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S A HIGHLY RESIDENTIAL AREA.
THE SCHOOLS ACROSS THE STREET, I THINK LA FONDA'S OVER THERE SOMEWHERE.
WHY A STORAGE UNIT? UM, THAT, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, ONE BEING THE MARKET, UM, THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF HOMES, A LOT OF NEW HOMES, A LOT OF, A LOT OF OLDER HOMES AND, AND IN NEED FOR IT, YOU KNOW, THE, THAT OLD ROLLUP STYLE STORAGE BUILDING I SHOWED IS, UH, ABOUT A MILE OR SO UP THE ROAD.
UM, I ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S MY STORAGE UNIT AND IT, UH, I DON'T WANNA GO THERE.
UM, SO NEED A, NEED SOMETHING NEW.
UM, I'M PROBABLY SPEAKING OUTTA LINE A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE, THE SELLERS I, I, I DO KNOW, UM, AND, AND MY KIDS ACTUALLY GO TO THAT SCHOOL, SO ANOTHER KIND OF VESTED INTEREST TO HAVE HERE.
UM, THEY, THEY DID NOT WANT SOMETHING THAT WAS GONNA BE UNSAFE OR, UM, HIGH TRAFFIC GENERATOR OR, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT'S GONNA HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THEM.
SO STORAGE IS REALLY A LOW IMPACT.
UM, AGAIN, EXTREMELY LOW TRAFFIC, SAFE, SECURE, UH, GOOD NEIGHBOR USE.
UH, I KNOW IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT AT FIRST BLUSH, UM, WHEN YOU HEAR STORAGE, BUT, UH, IT REALLY IS LOW IMPACT, ABLE TO KIND OF FIT IN, BLEND IN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND IT'S NEEDED.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER SIPES? THERE'S A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UM, THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION MENTIONED A LIST OF CONDITIONS INCLUDING USES THAT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED.
CAN WE PUT CONDITIONS ON, NOT ALLOWED USES ON AN WITH AN I D Z? UH, THEY'RE SPEC, THEY'RE SPECIFYING IT ON THEIR I D Z.
UM, THE, THE, THE USES PERMITTED THEMSELVES WOULD BE THOSE IN C TWO.
SO IF ANY OF THOSE ARE SPECIFIC TO C TWO, UM, THEY WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED.
I PROBABLY SAID IT WRONG AT FIRST THAT, SO WE'RE PROHIBITING USES THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE ALLOWED UNDER BOTH CURRENT ZONING AND OUR REQUESTED ZONING OF I D Z WITH C TWO USES.
AND ACTUALLY THE, THE ORIGINAL REASON WE REQUESTED I D Z IS BECAUSE WE WERE HOPEFUL THAT WE COULD JUST PICK ONE SINGULAR USE I D Z WITH
[00:50:01]
SELF STORAGE, BUT WE HAD TO, WE HAD TO REQUEST C TWO USES.SO WE'RE RESTRICTING ALL AGAINST ALL THE BAD ONES.
YEAH, AND I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION.
I DIDN'T KNOW WE COULD, YOU CAN, YOU CAN, WE CAN DO THAT DISCUSSION TIME.
I'M SORRY, DID YOU HAVE AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION? WELL, SO, SO THAT'S ALLOWED, WE CAN ON, ON AN I D Z, YOU CAN SAY C TWO BUT NOT THESE USES IN C TWO WE ARE GONNA LOOK AT THE UNDERLYING REQUEST AND THE REQUEST IS I D Z WITH C TWO USES.
SO THOSE C TWO USES WOULD BE PERMITTED.
SO IF HE WANTS TO JUST DO STORAGE, HE CAN JUST SAY STORAGE.
BUT, UM, UH, FOR US TO LIMIT THE OTHER C TWO USES WHEN THEY'RE SAYING, WHEN IT'S SAYING IT'S PRESCRIBED PER THAT I D Z DISTRICT, UM, IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO ENFORCE.
WE, WE'D RATHER JUST SAY STORAGE USE.
UH, I THINK I'M GONNA ASK A QUESTION.
I'M SORRY, I'M GONNA JUMP THE LINE HERE.
BUT RIGHT NOW THE SITE PLAN SAYS SELF STORAGE STRUCTURES ON IT.
THAT WOULD SEEM TO BE AN ELECTION OF A USE BY THE APPLICANT AND WOULD BE SUFFICIENT TO LIMIT THE USE IN THAT MANNER.
HOWEVER, IF IT SAYS C TWO USES AS WELL, WE ARE GOING TO ALLOW C TWO USES AS WELL.
WE, WE FILED THE REQUEST THAT AN I D Z WITH JUST SELF-STORAGE USE, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO GO BACK TO THAT.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY USE WE
THAT'S HOW THEY ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED THE REQUEST.
AND THAT REQUEST HASN'T BEEN AMENDED BUT THE SITE PLAN HAS CORRECT.
CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE QUESTION.
ALRIGHT, IN LIGHT OF THAT, UM, I WOULD SAY THAT THE, I WOULD, SORRY, I'M GOING TO ASK, DOES THE, UH, REQUEST THAT SPECIFICALLY SAYS FOR USES AS A STORAGE, SELF STORAGE UNIT OVERRIDE ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE ON THE SITE PLAN? I WOULD SAY THAT BAD QUESTION.
LET ME ASK A DIFFERENT QUESTION.
WELL, I HAD COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE TELLING ME EXPLICITLY THAT WAS A BAD QUESTION
I THINK
UM, ALRIGHT, THE, THE REQUEST IS FOR I D Z TWO FOR USE AS SELF-STORAGE.
IS THAT CORRECT MR. GRIFFIN ORIGINALLY OR STAFF? EITHER ONE ORIGINALLY.
WHAT HAS BEEN AMENDED SO FAR? THE SITE PLAN.
OKAY, SO THE REQUEST ITSELF HAS NOT BEEN AMENDED? CORRECT.
SO TO THE CITY'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN THAT EVENT, THEY SHOULD BE LIMITED GIVEN THAT THE REQUEST IS FOR SELF-STORAGE USES TO SELF-STORAGE USES? CORRECT.
IF THAT IS THE ACTUAL REQUEST ON THE APPLICATION, THEN THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE PUT FORWARD FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.
ALRIGHT, NOW I WILL QUIT INTERFERING AND CONFUSING PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY APPARENTLY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE WITH MY BAD QUESTIONS.
UH, BUT TO MY LEFT, UH, ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE BACK TO YOU.
OKAY, SO THEN MY QUESTION YEAH, I, I THINK I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING.
UM, WHICH I MEAN COULD WE, IF, IF THE REQUEST SAYS WAS FOR I D Z WITH USES PERMITTED IN SELF STORAGE, CAN THAT BE, CAN THE, CAN THE ZONING, UM, ORDINANCE, WILL IT SAY THAT ON THERE? BECAUSE WHAT, RIGHT NOW WHAT'S BEFORE US? YES.
IT'LL IS I D Z WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO AND, AND MM-HMM.
YEAH, WE, SO WE WERE I D Z WITH SELF-STORAGE USE AND THEN TOLD BY STAFF, AND THIS WAS MONTHS AGO, UH, GRANTED, UM, THAT WE HAD TO REQUEST C TWO USES BECAUSE STORAGE IS ALLOWED IN C TWO AND SO WE AGREED TO THAT.
SO WE HAVE THEN SINCE RESTRICTED OTHER C
[00:55:01]
TWO USES, BUT IF, IF WE'RE NOW SAYING WE CAN JUST SAY I D Z WITH SELF-STORAGE USE, THAT'S WONDERFUL.THAT CLEANS UP THE SITE PLAN EVEN A LITTLE BIT.
SO I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT THE, WHAT THE NOTICE SAYS IS WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND I D Z TWO, MEDIUM INTENSITY INFILL, OH SORRY, HOLD ON.
OH YEAH, IT'S C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
THERE'S ONE THAT'S I DZ TWO UC, FIVE A H O D WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO AND THEN ANOTHER ONE'S I D Z TWO A H O D OMITTING THE UC FIVE WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO.
SO CAN WE CAN, CAN THE APPLICANT IF HE AGREES CHANGE THAT TO I DZ TWO, WHATEVER ALL OF THE OTHER ALPHABET SOUP AFTERWARDS IS.
RIGHT, BECAUSE, SO THEN WE REMOVE THE C TWO MM-HMM.
SO BECAUSE THE UNDERLYING BASE ZONE OF ID Z TWO ALLOWS, UM, BASICALLY UP TO MF 50 AND USES PERMITTED IN C TWO THO, THOSE ARE THE BASELINE.
BUT IF YOU'RE JUST CALLING OUT A USE THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE C TWO DISTRICT, IT IS WITHIN THE RANGE AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO JUST SAY SELF-STORAGE FACILITY.
SO THEN THAT ACCOMPLISHES THE SAME GOAL AS WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH BY REMOVING ALL OF THE USES AND SAYING THAT THESE ARE THE USES THAT ARE NOT PERMITTED AS CONDITIONS TO THE SITE PLAN.
SO MR. GRIFFIN THEN TO YOU, WOULD YOU LIKE TO AMEND YOUR REQUEST TO I D Z TWO WITH USE AS A SELF STORAGE FACILITY? ABSOLUTELY.
ALRIGHT, SO I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU MR. GRIFFIN.
UH, YOU MENTIONED THAT THIS, UH, PROPERTY HAS BEEN FOR SALE FOR SOME TIME.
UH, IT'S, IT'S BEEN OWNED BY THE ACADEMY FOR SOME TIME.
IT'S BEEN FOR SALE, UH, I THINK THEY LISTED PROBABLY A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO OR SO.
UM, IT'S BEEN OWNED BY THE ACADEMY.
HAS IT BEEN USED BY THE ACADEMY IN THE TIME THAT IT'S BEEN OWNED? NOT FOR MORE THAN PARKING.
I THINK THEY'VE SPENT YEARS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW AND IF THEY COULD USE IT.
DO YOU KNOW WHEN THE LAST TIME THIS PROPERTY WAS USED IN ANY MANNER BESIDES PARKING? NO, IT'S BEEN A LONG, LONG TIME SINCE THAT BUILDING WAS USED.
I, I'M, I'M TOLD IT'S UNUSABLE.
UM, ALRIGHT, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
I'M GONNA GO ONCE MORE AROUND THE HORN, UH, TO THE RIGHT QUESTIONS TO THE LEFT QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE IT GOES TO COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE AS A DISTRICT ONE CASE FOR, UH, COMMENTS, DISCUSSION, AND A POTENTIAL MOTION.
SO WE'VE GOT AN OFFICIAL, WE HAVE AN OFFICIAL AMENDMENT THAT COUNTS.
UM, OKAY, SO THIS IS A, THIS CASE HAS BEEN, UM, PERCOLATING FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
UM, SO, UM, TO START OFF, I WANNA SAY THANKS TO THE APPLICANT, THANKS TO BOTH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
UM, THERE WAS A, A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH, A LOT OF MEETINGS, A LOT OF DISCUSSION, UM, A LOT OF THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION ON THIS CASE.
AND, UM, AS JAMES MENTIONED, I THINK THERE IN THE BEGINNING THERE, THERE WAS MAYBE NOT A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR THIS, UH, THIS PROJECT.
BUT, UM, GIVEN THE FACT THAT THIS PROJECT COULD ALREADY OCCUR, GIVEN THE CURRENT ZONING MINUS THE, UH, THE, THE ONE STRIP THAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED RESIDENTIAL, UM, I'LL BE MAKING A MOTION, UH, FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE.
AND, UM, JUST WANNA REITERATE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY GIVEN NOW THAT WE'RE NOT JUST PULLING OUT USES, IT IS ONLY GOING TO BE FOR SELF STORAGE.
THERE ARE NO OTHER POTENTIAL USES, UM, THAT THAT COULD BE, UH, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE UNDESIRABLE QUOTE UNQUOTE FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD AREA LIKE A GASOLINE STATION OR HEAVEN FORBID A PET CEMETERY.
UM, GIVEN THE SPOOKY SEASON THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW, UM, I I REALLY DO APPRECIATE, UM, THE FACT THAT, THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT AND, AND TO LIMIT THOSE OTHER USES AND ALSO GET SOME DESIGN SPECS IN HERE.
I KNOW THAT THAT WAS A REALLY BIG, UM, ISSUE FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN AND REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR MONTE VISTA AS WELL AS THE TOBIN HILLS ZONING COMMITTEE.
[01:00:01]
I'LL, I'LL STOP TALKING.THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER THREE AS AMENDED BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER REBUTTALS DISCUSSION TO MY LEFT, TO MY RIGHT, UH, BRIEFLY.
I'VE SEEN THIS CASE ALL OF THE TIMES THAT IT'S BEEN PRESENT BEFORE THE ZONING COMMISSION, I THINK MAYBE MINUS ONE IN ZONING, BUT ALSO IN PLANNING.
UM, LOOK, AND THIS IS A HARD CASE.
IT, IT REALLY IS IN MY OPINION.
UH, AND IT BECAME A HARD CASE BECAUSE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
I THINK WITHOUT THE WORK THAT WAS DONE AND WITHOUT THE COLLABORATION BETWEEN THEM, UH, THE APPLICANT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, I THINK THIS WOULD'VE BEEN A NON-STARTER PERIOD.
UM, YOU KNOW, WOULD I PREFER TO SEE SOMETHING ELSE? POSSIBLY, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO.
UH, AND SO GIVEN THE SUPPORT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, UM, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
IT IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE WITH A SECOND BY BARROS ROLL CALL.
COMMISSIONER LU HOLLAND ABSTAIN.
THANK YOU MR. HERNANDEZ FOR YOUR TIME COMING HERE TODAY.
ALRIGHT, WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE, FIVE.
I'M SORRY, FIVE ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
MY NAME IS MARK CHAVEZ, ZONING PLANNER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS GENERALLY LOCATED THE 5,001 SINCLAIR ROAD GOING FROM R FIVE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY N P EIGHT, NEIGHBORHOOD PRESERVATION AND I ONE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL AND C THREE R GENERAL COMMERCIAL RESTRICTIVE ALCOHOL SALES TO MF 18 MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT.
WITH ALL RELATES STAYING THE SAME.
THERE ARE 55 NOTICES SENT OUT.
ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED NO RESPONSE FROM JUPE MATTER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UH, NO REPLIES OUTSIDE 200 FEET.
STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED USE INCONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA WHILE THE R EXISTING R FIVE AND M P EIGHT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA IN GENERAL.
C THREE AND I ONE ARE IS NOT INTENDED TO ABUT RESIDENTIAL USES DUE TO THE INTENSITY OF COMMERCIAL USES AND I ONE IS TOO INTENSE FOR THAT AREA.
THE EXISTING R FIVE AND M P EIGHT ARE APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE I ONE AND C THREE R ARE NOT APPROPRIATE.
THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO CONSOLIDATE THE PROPERTIES TO DEVELOP LIMITED DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO MF 18.
THE EASTERN TRIANGLE COMMUNITY PLAN SUPPORTS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND CONVERSION OF INDUSTRIAL ZONING ALONG SINCLAIR ROAD AND STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PLEASE.
CAN YOU HEAR THIS? IT DOESN'T, IS IT FINE? SORRY.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I COULDN'T HEAR IT VERY WELL BACK THERE.
UH, KEN BROWN, ONE 12 EAST PECAN, SUITE 1360, UH, HERE ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER, UH, OF THE PROPERTY AND, AND THE DEVELOPER OF THE PROPERTY, UM, AS GO AHEAD AND SWITCH IT.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE ZONING MAP, THE SITE IS VACANT.
THE NEXT DEAL IS THE ZONING MAP.
WE HAVE A HODGEPODGE OF, OF ZONING DISTRICTS INCLUDING I ONE, WHICH IS NOT APPROPRIATE THERE.
ALTHOUGH THERE IS INDUSTRIAL USES ACROSS THE STREET.
WE ARE SEEKING AN MF 18 TO DO A SINGLE FAMILY PROJECT WITH, UH, APPROXIMATELY 129 LOTS.
UM, THE EXISTING ZONING WOULD ALLOW 128, BUT WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO LAY IT OUT THE WAY WE WANT.
THERE'S A SITE PLAN THAT IS COMING UP, WHICH THERE IT ISN'T.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF ZONING DISTRICTS THERE.
UH, WE WANT ONE UNIVER, ONE UNIFORM DISTRICT.
[01:05:01]
REQUIRED TO AMEND, UH, THE PLAN, UM, TO GO TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, ALTHOUGH WE'RE ONLY GOING TO DO FOUR UNITS PER ACRE.UH, I DO WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE DID GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION TWICE.
WE'VE CONTINUED THIS TWICE AT PLANNING COMMISSION.
UH, AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, I THINK THE SOUTHEAST AREA COMMUNITY PLAN IS GONNA BE ADOPTED.
AND WHEN IT IS ADOPTED, WE WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO DO A PLAN AMENDMENT.
'CAUSE WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT PLAN.
UH, ALTHOUGH WE DID GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TWICE, UH, EACH TIME, A A LOCAL REPRESENTATIVE ASKED FOR A CONTINUANCE, UH, FROM THE JUPE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND WE HAVE MET WITH THEM FOUR TIMES.
UM, UH, THE FIRST COUPLE OF MEETINGS WERE VERY PRODUCTIVE, UH, HAVING TO DO WITH THE SIZE OF THE HOMES AND SETBACKS AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND, UM, AND WE'VE LISTENED AND, AND PUT TOGETHER A LETTER OF INTENT.
UM, SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID APPROVE IT.
A NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVE ASKED FOR ANOTHER CONTINUANCE, WHICH WE WENT ALONG WITH AND MET AGAIN, WHICH, UH, AND THE PERSON THAT ASKED FOR IT WASN'T ABLE TO SHOW UP AT THE MEETING, UH, WHICH WAS A LITTLE UNUSUAL.
UM, WILL YOU GO TO THE SITE PLAN? AND SO THAT'S HOW WE'RE TRYING TO LAY IT OUT, UH, ON THE WHOLE SITE INSTEAD OF CONDENSING EVERYTHING AND LEAVING THE I ONE.
I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE IT IN THERE, BUT THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO ON THE SITE.
UM, WE DO HAVE A LETTER OF INTENT AFTER LISTENING, UH, AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS, UH, TO DEAL WITH THE HOME SIZES, UH, A COMMITMENT TO AN EFFORT TO AVERAGE THE HOME SIZE AT 1500 SQUARE FEET.
UM, THE ABUTTING HOMES ARE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 800 AND A THOUSAND.
UH, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE A 1500 SQUARE FEET SQUARE FOOT HOME.
UH, THEY'LL HAVE TWO CAR DRIVEWAYS.
WE'VE PROVIDED A BUFFER FENCING, UH, INGRESS EGRESS POINTS.
UH, THESE ARE THINGS THAT I KNOW THAT STAFF DOESN'T LIKE US TALKING ABOUT, BUT THESE ARE, IT'S AN AGREEMENT THAT IN PRINCIPLE WE'VE COME UP WITH.
UM, WE WERE ASKED AGAIN TO CONTINUE THIS CASE TODAY.
UH, AND I, I JUST DON'T SEE THE, THE REASON FOR IT, UH, TODAY IS NOVEMBER 1ST.
THIS WOULDN'T GO TO COUNCIL TILL DECEMBER 1ST.
UM, IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE WE'RE WILLING TO MEET.
UH, BUT FROM A LAND USE, LAND USE, UH, PLANNING STANDPOINT, I THINK IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED FROM A ZONING STANDPOINT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING.
AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING IS COMPLETELY CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, AND SO WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO MAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL SO WE COULD MOVE FORWARD, UH, WITH OUR GUARANTEE THAT WE WILL KEEP MEETING.
UM, BUT I, I BELIEVE IN PRINCIPLE AT THE LAST MEETING, UM, WE HAVE HONED IN ON THE ISSUES AND I, I THINK WE'RE VERY CLOSE.
AND SO I, I'D LIKE, UH, OR RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT.
UM, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
UH, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, WE HAVE A MISS CASTANO PEREZ.
MS. PEREZ, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, UH, GIVE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND THEN TELL US WHAT YOU THINK.
MY NAME IS MARY HELEN CASTANO PERES, AND I AM THE CHAIR REPRESENTATIVE FOR JUPI MANOR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
BOTH THE CARES PROGRAM AND THE PRIDE, WHICH TAKES CARE OF ISSUES LIKE THIS.
UM, I REPRESENT, UH, MANY SENIORS.
THIS IS MORE OF A SENIOR COMMUNITY, AND SO OUR SENIORS ARE RANGING SOMEWHERE AROUND 85 AND NINETIES AND SOME IN THE HUNDREDS, AND THEY TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, MY PARENTS BUILT OUR HOME THERE IN 1960S, SO I'VE BEEN, THAT'S MY HOME.
UM, I OFFERED, UM, AND THE REASON, I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S TALKING ABOUT ME OR A FEW OF US THAT ARE PART OF THE COMMITTEE THAT DIDN'T SHOW UP.
WE WERE GIVEN A NOTICE FROM ONE DAY, ONE EVENING TO THE NEXT THAT WE WERE HAVING A MEETING.
WE, MANY OF US ALREADY HAD COMMITMENTS TO THE NEXT DAY.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH, UM, THE PARTIES, AND WE HAVE NO, NO REASON NOT TO WORK WITH HIM.
MATTER OF FACT, WE ALSO THOUGHT THAT WE WERE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER MEETING UNTIL WE DISCOVERED AT, ACTUALLY, I DISCOVERED AT 1135 TODAY THAT WE WERE HAVING THIS AFTER ALL, AND NOT A POSTPONEMENT.
AND SO MANY OF US, INCLUDING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT, JOY MCGEE, UM, SAID, WE STILL HAVE MORE TALKS TO DO, YOU KNOW? AND SO, UM, THAT WAS FROM THE MEETING THAT THEY HAD LAST WEEK.
[01:10:01]
DID THE, UH, APPLICANT SAY THAT? LET ME SLEEP ON IT AND SEE WHAT WE NEED TO DO.SO WE ARE VERY CLOSE, BUT WE'RE NOT THERE YET.
AND SO JUPI MANOR DOES, UM, DISAGREE.
WE DID NOT APPROVE THIS MEETING.
THE HOMES THAT WE ARE BEING SHOWN ARE THESE KINDISH HOMES, AND THESE ARE NO 1500 SQUARE FEET HOMES.
THE DOCUMENT THAT THEY PRESENTED TO US IS 1300 SQUARE FEET.
AND WE WANTED THEM LIKE THIS, THE LARGER HOMES.
WE WANTED IT, LIKE THE 3000 SQUARE FOOT HOMES THAT THEY PRESENTED TO US.
WE FEEL LIKE THIS HAS BEEN DECEIVING SO FAR.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE, AND WHEN WE TOLD THEM TO PUT IT IN WRITING THE AGREEMENT, THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAD AT THE BEGINNING HAD NOTHING, DID NOT TRANSLATE IN WRITTEN.
UM, WE ALSO NEED THAT THE, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO ASKED FOR THINGS LIKE, WHAT'S THE ENTRANCE, WHICH WE GOT, WHAT'S GONNA BE THE ENTRANCE OVER HERE AS WELL? REASON IS WE DIDN'T, ONE HOUSE IS RIGHT THERE BY THE STREETS WHERE PEOPLE ARE TURNING IN THAT'S GONNA BE CAUSING AN ACCIDENT.
AND SO THEREFORE, I FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT AT THE POINT WHERE WE'RE EVEN THERE ON DISCUSSION.
UM, AND WE ARE WILLING TO MEET.
AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED HIM TO POSTPONE IT.
THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE APPLICANT TO PLEASE POSTPONE IT, HAVE IT IN WRITING.
UM, AND, UM, AND I'M TRYING TO REPRESENT OUR REP, OUR, OUR COMMUNITY.
ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE IS NONE MORE.
UM, WE'VE, WE'VE, WE'VE MADE EVERY OPPORTUNITY, AND WE HAVE MET WITH THEM EVERY TIME THEY'VE ASKED.
UH, THE LAST ONE CAME, UH, AND I'M, I'M NOT REALLY GOOD AT TEXTING, UH, BUT, UH, JOY WAS INVOLVED IN THE TEXT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE KNEW THAT WE WERE ALL ON IT.
AND WE DID SAY WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO FORWARD.
AND, AND JOY'S RESPONSE IN THERE SAYS THERE THEY ARE GONNA GO FORWARD, UH, WITH A, THEY'RE GONNA GO FORWARD.
AND I STILL THINK THERE ARE, BUT, BUT WE HA WE DO HAVE SOMETHING IN, IN WRITING WE HAVE PROVIDED TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S OFFICE.
AND WE RESPONDED AND SAID, OKAY, 1500 SQUARE FEET.
UH, I DON'T THINK WE'RE EVER GETTING TO 3000.
SO, UH, WE HAVE SHOWN THEM WHAT THEY WOULD LOOK LIKE, WHAT THE ENTRANCE WOULD LOOK LIKE, WHERE THE INGRESS EGRESS POINTS ARE.
AND SO, UM, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT, THAT YOU MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BASED UPON THE LAND USE, UH, AS PRESENTED TO YOU.
THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE COMMISSIONER FUENTES TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
AND I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
SO, UH, IN THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD AT THE BROOKSFIELD OFFICE, UM, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION AROUND, UH, A RANGE OF SQUARE FOOTAGE, RIGHT? WAS THAT STILL SOMETHING THAT WAS, WAS BEING THROWN AROUND OR, RIGHT.
UH, OURS WAS GONNA BE, IT WAS GONNA BE AN AVERAGE, YOU'RE RIGHT.
UH, AN AVERAGE OF 1500 SQUARE FEET.
THAT, THAT WAS OUR, THAT THAT WAS WHAT WE INTENDED, UH, TO DO.
AND, UH, JUST WANT TO SEE IF YOU COULD REITERATE, YOU ARE PLANNING ON KEEPING THOSE LINES OF COMMUNICATION OPEN BETWEEN, ABSOLUTELY.
UM, QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT.
UH, COMMISSIONER FUENTES BACK TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION.
SO, UM, AT THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE INVOLVED IN THE LAST MEETING, UH, A LOT OF THINGS WERE HASHED OUT.
UH, THINGS, UH, THAT CARRIED OVER FROM THE INITIAL MEETING WERE RESOLVED.
UM, I SEE THAT THERE ARE STILL A FEW QUESTIONS, A FEW CONCERNS THAT COULD, COULD BE, UH, WORKED OUT.
UH, BUT OVERALL I THINK THAT FROM THE LAND USE PERSPECTIVE, THIS, THIS PROJECT IS, UH, SOUND, UH, BECAUSE OF THAT I WILL BE MOVING TO APPROVE, UH, THIS PROJECT.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
UH, I'M GONNA GO WITH COMMISSIONER ORTIZ.
DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT.
UM, YOU WANNA TALK? QUICK COMMENT? YEAH.
UH, I JUST AGAIN, WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE, UH, COMMUNITY AND THE DEVELOPER DO CONTINUE THOSE TALKS, UH, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THOSE CONCERNS ARE ADDRESSED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND WITHIN REASON.
[01:15:01]
UM, I THINK THAT THE DOWN ZONING OF THAT I ONE IS VERY IMPORTANT.UM, IT CAN AFFECT A LOT OF THINGS FROM HEALTH AND SAFETY TO THOSE HU UH, HOME VALUES.
AND, UH, BRINGING IN MORE HOUSING, UH, BE IT MARKET RATE OR, OR NOT, UH, DOES HELP.
AND, UH, WAS PROBABLY GONNA SAY EXACTLY WHAT COMMISSIONER FUENTES SAID, SO I WILL NOT SAY ANYTHING ELSE NOW.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER LAG HOLLAND? YES.
WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE, PLEASE.
ANN BETA'S ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER NINE IS LOCATED AT 2 0 1 4 WEST KINGS HIGHWAY AND IS A PROPOSAL TO GO FROM R SIX C D TO R SIX C D WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 30 NOTICES SENT WITH ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.
AND WOODLAWN LAKE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND JEFFERSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ARE BOTH IN OPPOSITION, ACTUALLY, I'M SORRY, JEFFERSON.
JEFFERSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSITION AND WOODLAWN LAKE HAS NOT RESPONDED.
THE CURRENT R SIX C D RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO UNITS IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED R SIX C D RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR THREE UNITS IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS HISTORICALLY ZONED INTENTIONALLY TO PERMIT ADDITIONAL DENSITY ON CERTAIN PROPERTIES AS A CONDITIONAL USE TO A SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DESIGNATION.
THE ADDITIONAL DENSITY WOULD BE OUT OF CHARACTER IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
FURTHERMORE, THE ZONING THAT EXISTS IN THE AREA PERMITS, DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES, AND FOURPLEXES.
THE PROPOSED THIRD UNIT ON THIS PROPERTY IS DETACHED FROM THE EXISTING DUPLEX, WHICH DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, IF THE APPLICANT WOULD COME FORWARD, PLEASE, UH, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROJECT.
UH, I LIVE AT 5 3 3 1 SAFFRON ROSE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 1.
UM, I, I PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY AS, UM, AS A INVESTMENT PROPERTY.
UH, THE, THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO, I HAVE A LONG-TERM TENANT ON THE RIGHT SIDE, AND I, I APPLIED AND GOT APPROVED FOR A SHORT-TERM, UM, RAIL PERMIT ON THE LEFT SIDE.
SO THAT WAY I CAN DO, UH, AIRBNB.
THE, THE BACK STRUCTURE, UM, IT'S IN PRETTY POOR SHAPE, UH, ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE HOUSE.
I WANNA MAKE IT LOOK NICE, UM, IN INSIDE AND OUT, UM, TO UP, UP THE VALUE ON IT.
UH, I DO PLAN ON HOLDING THIS, THIS PROPERTY LONG TERM.
UM, THIS IS MY FIRST INVESTMENT PROPERTY.
UM, I I WANTED TO CONVERT IT INTO A CASITA, WHICH, UM, IS PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH A LOT OF THE HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE'S PLENTY OF CASITAS, UH, AROUND THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
UM, THE, THE GAME PLAN IS, UH, MY MOTHER CURRENTLY LIVES WITH ME AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HER, UM, LIVE IN THAT BACK CASITA AND HELP MANAGE THE LEFT SIDE, WHICH IS, UM, WILL, WILL BE THE AIRBNB.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ERIC DE LUNA AT DISTRICT SEVEN HAS HELPED ME OUT A LOT ON THIS, ON THIS PROJECT.
THIS IS MY FIRST TIME DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS, AND SO I'VE, I FOLLOWED ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, I WENT DOOR KNOCKING TO EVERY SINGLE HOUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE LETTER.
UM, IF, IF SOMEONE DIDN'T ANSWER THE DOOR, I I MADE SURE I LEFT MY, MY PHONE NUMBER ON THE LETTER AS WELL.
AND IF THAT ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT MY INTENT FOR THE PROPERTY.
I ALSO ATTENDED THE, UM, THE JEFFERSON H O A, I HAD TED THE PRESIDENT COME WALK THE SITE WITH ME AS WELL.
UH, TED WAS, WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE AT FIRST, UM, ESPECIALLY AFTER I WENT TO THE H O A MEETING AND HE, HE KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON AND, UM, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE RECOMMENDING OR THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE RECOMMENDING A DENIAL AS OF RIGHT NOW.
UM, BECAUSE, UM, MS. BIANCA AT MONTICELLO PARK, I THINK HAD A, HAD THE DISCUSSION WITH HIM.
AND, AND SO NOW HE, HE SUBMITTED HIS
[01:20:01]
LETTER OF, UH, RECOMMENDATION, WHICH HE HAD SUBMITTED, UM, FOR ME, HIS, UH, A RECOMMENDATION LETTER, UH, FROM THE START.UH, I, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT I WAS ALSO PART OF THE WOODLAWN, UM, LAKE ASSOCIATION.
SO I HAD REACHED OUT TO JD, UH, WHO WAS THE PRESIDENT OVER THERE.
AND, UM, HE SEEMED, YOU KNOW, VERY GRACIOUS.
HE SAID HE WOULD REACH OUT TO TED AND IT SOUNDED LIKE I WAS GONNA GET SUPPORT FROM BOTH ASSOCIATIONS.
AND THEN AS OF RECENTLY, LAST WEEK, UM, UH, TED, AFTER SPEAKING WITH BIANCA FROM MONTICELLO PARK HAD SAID HE'S GONNA RESEND HIS LETTER.
UM, AND SO I, I WANTED TO KIND OF GET ON THE SAME PAGE AS EVERYONE.
SO YESTERDAY I HAD A CONFERENCE CALL WITH ALL THREE.
UM, AND I, I THINK THAT BIANCA ASSUMES I PURCHASED IT WITH AN L L C.
UM, BECAUSE OF THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY, I, I COULDN'T GET A PRIMARY ALONE, UH, ON IT 'CAUSE IT'S IN PRETTY ROUGH SHAPE.
UH, THE LEFT SIDE IS TURNING OUT GREAT SO FAR.
YOU KNOW, I'VE TORE DOWN SOME OLD TREES THAT DIDN'T LOOK GOOD, AND I'VE, I'VE REPLANTED A RED CEDAR, NICE RED CEDAR TREES AND, UH, TWO CREPE MYRTLES.
AND SO THE, THE, THE PLACE IS STARTING TO LOOK GREAT.
AND, UM, I I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, MS. BIANCA, I UNDERSTAND HER CONCERNS ABOUT PARKING.
I, I'M, I'M WILLING TO TAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, TO, TO TRY TO GET THIS THING MOVING FORWARD.
AND I THINK SHE'S UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT I'M A HOUSE FLIPPER AND I'M, I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT INTO A THIRD UNIT SO I CAN MAKE A QUICK BUCK.
UH, BUT AGAIN, I, THAT'S NOT MY INTENTIONS.
I'VE, I'M A FULL-TIME COSTCO EMPLOYEE FOR 20 YEARS.
I DON'T HAVE TIME TO FLIP HOUSES, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO, I'M A ASSISTANT WAREHOUSE MANAGER.
I'M TRYING TO GET MY OWN BUILDING, AND THAT'S MY CAREER IS MY FOCUS.
AND THIS IS, UM, SOMETHING TO TRY TO GET SOME PASSIVE INCOME AND, AND GET, GET MY MOM, UM, OUT FROM MY HOUSE AND INTO ANOTHER
SO, UM, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE, I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE FOR THIS THING TO, TO, TO PASS THROUGH.
I'VE BEEN VERY TRANSPARENT WITH, WITH JD, TED, AND BIANCA.
AND, UM, I, GOING FORWARD, I, I ALSO TOLD THEM I'M WILLING TO TAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY HAVE.
UM, ON THE LEFT SIDE, IT DIDN'T HAVE A REAR EXIT, AND SO I SUBMITTED A PERMIT, UM, TO GET DOUBLE DOORS OUT THE BACKSIDE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THE PROPERTY VALUE TO MAKE IT LOOK NICE AND OPEN.
THE, THE, UM, MON MONTICELLO ASSOCIATION WANTED ME TO KEEP THE HISTORICAL WINDOWS AND PUT A REAR DOOR ON THE, ON THE RIGHT, IN THE, IN THE BACK LEFT UNIT.
UM, WHICH, WHICH I AGREED WITH.
UM, WELL, I DIDN'T AGREE WITH, BUT I'M, I'M DOING IT BECAUSE
UM, SO THIS WHOLE TIME I'VE BEEN PRETTY UNDERSTANDING.
UM, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE HISTORICAL, UM, ASSOCIATION, THEY, THEY KNOW MORE ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAN I DO, AND I'M WILLING TO TAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS AND, YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD IN ANY, IN ANY WAY THAT THEY WOULD LIKE ME TO.
UM, SO, SO THAT WAY EVERY, IT MAKES EVERYONE HAPPY.
AND ONE, ONE LAST THING TOO IS THE, THE PARK, THE PARKING WAS, WAS THE MAIN ISSUE.
AND I HAD, I HAD TOLD ALL THREE H O A AS WELL THAT, THAT, UM, THAT THAT STREET IS, IS FAIRLY NARROW.
EVERY TIME I GO DOWN, IT, IT, I CRINGE WHEN I SEE THE, THE CARS THAT ARE PARKED ON THE STREET.
AND, UM, I, I DON'T WANT ANY OF MY TENANTS PARKING ON THE STREET.
I HAVE A LONG-TERM TENANT ON THE RIGHT SIDE, AND SHE IS A SINGLE MOTHER WITH AN EIGHT YEAR OLD DAUGHTER.
SO THERE'S ONE VEHICLE WHICH, UM, SHE HAS TO PARK ON THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN THE LEFT SIDE BEING AN AIRBNB, IT'S ONLY 800 SQUARE FEET, SO MORE THAN LIKELY THERE WOULD BE ONE ADDITIONAL CAR IN THAT UNIT AS WELL.
PLUS MY MOTHER'S CAR IN THE A D U IN THE BACK.
SO U UH, USUALLY THERE SHOULD BE THREE CARS ON PROPERTY AT ALL TIME, AND THERE'S PLENTY ROOM IN THE BACK FOR THAT.
AND I DO NOT WANT ANYONE PARKING ON THE STREET.
SO I DID, I DID LET THEM KNOW OF THAT AS WELL.
AND I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M WILLING TO UPHOLD MINE TO THE BARGAIN ON THAT TO, TO KEEP THE, THE STREETS CLEAR.
SO, UM, I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS' TIME AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE I'M HERE TO ASK ANSWER.
IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? YES, WE HAVE ONE VOICEMAIL.
IF WE COULD PLAY THE VOICEMAIL, PLEASE.
YES, THIS IS FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE, ZONING CASE Z 2 0 22 1 0 7 0 2 6 3 CD ADDRESS, 2014 WEST KINGS HIGHWAY, LOCATED IN DISTRICT SEVEN WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE WOODLAWN LAKE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION AND THE JEFFERSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOUNDARIES,
[01:25:01]
A PART OF THE NEAR NORTHWEST COMMUNITY PLAN AREA, AND WAS THE PHASE FOUR ADDITION ONTO THE MONTICELLO PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT.I AM AN M P N A BOARD MEMBER OFFERING COMMENTS ON BEHALF OF DREA GARZA, PRESIDENT OF THE MONTICELLO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE MONTICELLO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOARD OF DIRECTORS PO BOX +1 003-157-8201.
MY PHONE NUMBER'S (210) 385-6188.
WE THANK THE APPLICANT FOR TAKING THE TIME TO EXPLAIN HIS INTENTIONS AND LISTENING TO THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY FOR THIS CASE.
DURING THE MEETING HELD ON MONDAY, OCTOBER 31ST, 2022, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED R SIX WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS AND IS SEEKING AN INCREASE TO THREE DWELLING UNITS BY CONVERTING THE DETACHED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AND GARAGE.
THE PROPERTY RECEIVED A TYPE TWO S T R PERMIT IN EARLY SEPTEMBER, WHICH REQUIRES ONE OFF STREET PARKING SPACE, AND THE OWNER PURSUED CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS FROM THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION FOR MINOR MODIFICATIONS.
WE NOTE THAT WHILE THERE IS AN ALLEY AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, THIS ALLEY HAS BEEN CLOSED FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS AND IS NOT IN A DRIVABLE CONDITION FOR ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY.
AS THE CITY DOES NOT ALLOCATE MAINTENANCE MONIES FOR CLOSED ALLEYS, ADDING A THIRD DWELLING UNIT TO THIS PROPERTY IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE BLOCKS ADJACENT TO THE SITE AND WILL BRING THE REQUIREMENT FOR ADDITIONAL IMPERVIOUS COVER TO ADEQUATELY HANDLE ALL THE CARS FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS DUE TO THE LOCATION OF THE LOT AND THE BLOCK BEING DESIGNATED AS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IN THE NEAR NORTHWEST COMMUNITY PLAN FOR FUTURE LAND USE MAP, WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION DENIAL FOR THIS CASE.
WE WISH THE APPLICANT'S SUCCESS WITH THE OPERATION OF HIS NEW TYPE TWO S T R AND CONTINUED IMPROVEMENTS ON HIS FIRST INVESTMENT PROPERTY.
THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERATION OF OUR COMMENTS.
ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE ARE NO MORE.
ALRIGHT, MR. GRAFF A BRIEF REBUTTAL.
UM, NO, SHE, SHE PRETTY MUCH SAID EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN YESTERDAY'S MEETING.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND
UM, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, EVERY, THERE, THERE, EVERY OTHER HOUSE ON THAT, ON THAT BLOCK HAS A, HAS A CASITA IN THE BACK.
UM, I THINK HER, HER, HER REBUTTAL YESTERDAY, ONE OF THE COMMENTS WAS THAT YES, THEY DO, AND IT'S OKAY BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMEONE'S PRIMARY RESIDENCE AND, YOU KNOW, I, I PUR I CURRENTLY OWN IT UNDER MY L L C, WHICH I OPENED TO GET FUNDING FOR THE, FOR THE PROPERTY.
UM, BUT I DO PLAN ON REFINANCING AS, AS A PRIMARY RESIDENT.
UM, I'M GONNA CO-SIGN FOR MY MOM, MY MOTHER, UM, YOU KNOW, AND I JUST, WHEN I DID THE DOOR KNOCKING, I TALKING TO A COUPLE OF THE PEOPLES WITH THE CASITAS, THEY'RE LIKE, YEAH, IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
YOU KNOW, AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T GET ANY LETTERS BACK FOR APPROVAL, UM, PER SE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT WAS THERE.
AND EVEN WHEN I WENT TO THE, THE JEFFERSON H O A MEETING, EVERYONE WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, BRINGING ME IN WITH THE OPEN ARMS. AND, UH, I HAD A BUNCH OF DISCUSSIONS WITH SOME OF THE, THE NEIGHBORS THAT, THAT OPERATE, UH, SHORT TERM RENTALS, AND THEY WERE SAYING HOW GREAT IT WAS AND, UH, KIND OF GIVING ME SOME POINTERS AND EVERYTHING.
UM, SO, AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO THE SAME, THE SAME.
I JUST DID WANNA BRING UP ONE OF THE THING THE SAME, UM, WHEN THIS THING DID GET CONVERTED TO A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A DUPLEX, UH, ON THAT SAME ORDINANCE, THERE WAS OTHER PROPERTIES IN, IN, IN THE AREA THAT, UM, WERE PERMITTED FOR A TRIPLEX AND, AND QUADRUPLEX.
AND THEN I DID SOME RESEARCH AS WELL.
AND THERE'S, THERE'S A FEW HOUSES AROUND ME, UH, THAT ARE, THAT ARE DUPLEXES WITH CASITAS, UH, FOURPLEXES TRIPLEXES.
UM, WE, A COUPLE OF 'EM ARE 1 5 4 7 WEST AGARITA, UH, WHICH IS THE DUPLEX WITH THE CASITA.
UH, THERE'S 2 2 1 0 4 WEST HU I THINK THAT'S HOW YOU SAY IT.
UH, WHICH IS A FOURPLEX IN THE JEFFERSON AND WOODLAWN LAKE, UH, ASSOCIATION, UH, 2053 WEST GRAMERCY, WHICH IS A TRIPLEX AS WELL.
IT'S A DUPLEX WITH THE CASITA IN THE BACK.
SO THERE, THERE ARE OTHER, THERE ARE OTHER ONES OUT THERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK MISS BIANCA'S PRIMARY CONCERN WAS THAT I'M, I'M, I'M NOT CURRENTLY LIVING IN THE PROPERTY, UM, YOU KNOW, WHICH I, WHICH I UNDERSTAND, BUT, UH, I, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF APPROVED, UM, BIANCA, JD AND TED WILL ALL BE PRETTY PLEASED ABOUT HOW THE, THE PROPERTY TURNS OUT AND, UH, THE, THE TIGHT SHIP THAT HAS RAN OVER THERE AS FAR AS THE, THE, THE CARS, UH, BEING ON SITE.
YOU MIGHT JUST WANNA HANG OUT THERE IN CASE ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS.
[01:30:01]
THE HOMEOWNER RESIDES ON THE PROPERTY AND A D U IS PERMITTED, CORRECT? YES, SIR.SO THEN NO ZONING CHANGE WOULD BE REQUIRED IF IN THAT CASE, IF THE OWNER LIVES ON THE PROPERTY, SAY HIS MOM AN A D U WOULD BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE THIS ZONING CASE EVEN HERE, CORRECT? WELL, BUT THERE'S UNITS, WELL THERE'S, IT'S NOT JUST TWO, BUT, BUT, BUT IF SHE LIVED ON ONE HALF OF THE SIDE ON ONE SIDE, THEN YOU COULD, COULD YOU DO A A D U OR NO, I DON'T THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO TELL ME.
OKAY, SO THE, THE, THE, SOME OF THE INSTANCES THAT WERE MENTIONED WERE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I, YOU KNOW, AND MY NEIGHBORS, WE ALL HAVE LITTLE CASITAS IN THE BACK, BUT THAT'S, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE WE ARE HOMEOWNER OCCUPIED, SO WE CAN, WE HAVE A CASITA WHICH IS ALLOWED.
SO WHAT I'M ASKING IS IN A, IF YOU HAVE A DUPLEX AND ONE SIDE IS OWNER OCCUPIED, IS THE A D U THE ATTACHED A D U, THE DUPLEX OR IS IT BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY ZONED AS LIKE A DUPLEX? DO THEY GET THE, THE AN A D U AS A BONUS UNIT? GOTCHA, GOTCHA.
SO IT DEPENDS ON IF THEY BENEFIT FROM THE B TWO R FOUR CONVERSION.
SO IF IT IS A DUPLEX BY RIGHT UNDER THE B TWO R FOUR CONVERSION, THEN YES, TECHNICALLY YOU COULD STILL HAVE AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IN ADDITION TO IT.
SO DO WE KNOW, HOW ABOUT THIS? THIS ONE'S R SIX, THIS ONE'S R SIX.
AND I GUESS, SO THE QUESTION, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE IS FOR MR. GRAFF, UM, I WAS ON THAT CONFERENCE CALL.
UM, FIRST I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR REACHING OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS AND, UM, AND THE D SEVEN OFFICE.
AND I THINK PART OF THE, THE, UM, REASON, REASON IS FOR, UH, FOR, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD EITHER CHANGING THEIR OPINIONS, UM, IS THAT YOU ORIGINALLY HAD STATED, WELL, I'M GONNA HAVE MY MOTHER LIVE THERE, BUT THEN YOU SAID THAT YOU WANTED TO, SHE MAY NOT MI LIVE THERE, YOU WANTED TO USE THAT AS AN EXTRA S T R SO THAT YOU WOULD HAVE A LONG-TERM RENT AND THEN AND TWO STR ON THE PROPERTY.
SO THE, WHAT WHAT IT WAS, I, I WANTED HER TO LIVE IN THE, IN THE REAR UNIT, AND THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL GAME PLAN.
WHEN I PURCHASED THIS THING THREE MONTHS AGO, UM, I, I WANTED TO BE OPEN AND TRANSPARENT WITH TED.
UM, AND I HAD TOLD HIM THAT I, I HAD POSSIBLY HAD A JOB OFFER IN AUSTIN COMING UP IN THIS JUNE, AND I SAID, IF THAT DOES HAPPEN, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT MY MOM WOULD NOT RESIDE ON THE PROPERTY AND THAT SHE WOULD BE PROBABLY MOVING TO AUSTIN AS WELL.
AND I WANTED TO BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT.
UM, BUT THE GAME PLAN IS GET THE REHAB DONE, UM, REFINANCE IT UNDER A PRIMARY RESIDENCE FOR MY MOTHER, UH, AND, AND, AND HAVE HER LIVE ON PROPERTY.
AND I, I WANTED HER TO LIVE IN THAT BACK CASITA AND HAVE HER MANAGE THE, THE LEFT UNIT, WHICH HAS BEEN, UH, HAS THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ON IT AS WELL.
I, I WAS JUST KIND OF GIVING 'EM EXTRA INFORMATION THAT I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T HAVE, BUT I, I WANTED TO BE OPEN AND UP UPFRONT AND TRANSPARENT ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, MY, MY PLANS ON THIS PROPERTY AND MY, MY LONG-TERM, UM, HOLD ON THE, ON THIS THING, YOU KNOW, I DON'T PLAN ON THERE WITH THE MARKET RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S NO VALUE ON, ON A FLIP ON THIS, ON THIS THING.
UM, I, I DO PLAN ON, YOU KNOW, RESIDE HAVING MY MOTHER RESIDE IN IT AND HOLDING THIS THING LONG TERM.
BUT I THINK THE, AGAIN, I THINK THE CONFUSION IS THAT, THAT YOU HAD STATED THAT YOUR MOM WAS GONNA LIVE THERE, BUT THEN YOU THAT'S CORRECT, STATED IN OUR MEETING THAT YOU WANTED THE OPTION TO HAVE THAT AS AN ADDITIONAL S T R SO THAT YOU WOULD'VE TWO SDRS ON THE PROPERTY.
THAT'S, THAT'S ONLY IF FOR WHATEVER REASON MY, MY, MY MOTHER MOVES, THEN THAT WOULD BE THE, THE NEXT STEP.
AND SO I WANTED TO BE TRANSPARENT ON TED.
THIS IS, THIS IS THE, THE GAME PLAN.
IF FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO MOVE FROM, FROM THE PROPERTY.
UM, IN THE MEETING, ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT, AND, UM, THAT I SHARE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS THE PARKING ACCESS, UM, WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF MULTIPLE STR ON THE PROPERTY YOU HAVE A TANDEM DRIVEWAY FOR.
AND THEN I, I, I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH NEIGHBOR, WHICH NEIGHBORHOOD BROUGHT THAT UP, WHETHER IT WAS JD OR TED OR BIANCA TO BE HONEST.
BUT ONE OF 'EM SAID, WELL, IF YOU KNOW YOUR NEIGHBOR OR YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE LONG-TERM RENT RENTALS
[01:35:01]
AND YOU KNOW YOUR NEIGHBOR TANDEM DRIVEWAYS ARE FINE, UM, A LOT OF US HAVE TANDEM, I HAVE A TANDEM DRIVEWAY AND EVERY OTHER MORNING, DEPENDING IF MY WIFE IS LEAVING OR I'M LEAVING FIRST, WE END UP HAVING TO MOVE CARS AROUND.IF YOU HAVE STR AND YOU HAVE ONE SINGULAR ACCESS, UNFORTUNATELY IT MAKES THAT DIFFICULT.
UM, SO WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT MEANS YOU CAN'T REALLY PARK IN THAT TANDEM DRIVEWAY.
YOU HAVE TO PARK IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSE WHERE YOU'RE, YOU'RE BASICALLY MAKING A PARKING LOT IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSE.
UM, YES, SOME, SOME OF US DO HAVE ALLEY ACCESS, BUT SOME OF US HAVE PAVED ALLEYS, SOME OF US DON'T.
I, I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE ALLEY, BUT THERE ARE SOME PAVED ALLEYS WHERE IN THE, IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME IN FROM THE ALLEY AND PARK INTO THEIR GARAGE.
UNFORTUNATELY, AS YOU KNOW, THE, YOUR ALLEY ISN'T OPEN, ISN'T PAVED, AND YOU KIND OF LOSE THAT EXTRA ACCESS.
UM, SO I GUESS I'M GOING MORE INTO COMMENT VERSUS QUESTIONS.
I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA STOP NOW THEN BECAUSE I'M GOING TOO FAR.
COMMISSIONER S SIPES QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT TO MY LEFT.
SEEING NONE NOW YOU CAN GO IN COMMENTS, JUST CONTINUE.
SO YES, THERE ARE MANY HOMES THAT HAVE CASITAS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, THERE ARE A MIX OF DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES, QUADPLEXES, HOWEVER, USUALLY THOSE ARE IN A VERY ORGANIZED PATTERN, UM, WHERE WE WILL HAVE ON, ON A STREET, YOU'LL HAVE SINGLE FAMILY EXCLUSIVELY THE NEXT BLOCK, DUPLEXES OR QUADPLEXES.
THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, JUST BY THE WAY THAT THE, THE ENTRY IS INTO THE BACK OF THE SITE, UM, SOME OF THOSE HAVE ACCESS FROM THE ALLEYS OR THEY'RE LOCATED A TRIPLEX, LIKE ONE STREET, ONE BLOCK AWAY FROM ME IS SINGLE FAMILY, SINGLE FAMILY, BUT AT THE CORNERS ARE TRIPLEXES BECAUSE THEY HAVE BETTER ACCESS.
UM, AND OUR ZONING COMMISSION, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WE APPROVED A TRIPLEX BECAUSE IT WAS AT A CORNER SITE YOU HAD ACCESS FROM, FROM TWO SIDES.
UM, SO IN THIS CASE, I'M GONNA AGREE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL BASED ON ACCESS, BASED ON, UM, ITS PRI ITS LOCATION IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BLOCK.
SO UNFORTUNATELY AT THIS, THIS TIME I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION FOR DENIAL.
ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR DENIAL OF ITEM NUMBER NINE BY COMMISSIONER SIPES.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER TO MY RIGHT.
I'M JUST GONNA ASK THE DISTRICT SEVEN REPRESENTATIVE TO RESTATE THE REASON AGAIN, I GOT A LITTLE LOST, SORRY, BECAUSE I WENT ON, I TEND TO DO THAT AND I'M ALREADY THINKING ABOUT DINNER TONIGHT AND STUFF.
UM, THE, THE RATIONALE IS THAT, UH, FIRST IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BLOCK AND WHILE YES, THERE ARE OTHER DUPLEXES, THERE AREN'T REALLY TRIPLEXES OR QUADPLEXES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BLOCK.
USUALLY THE QUADPLEXES OR TRIPLEXES ARE LOCATED ON THE CORNERS WHERE YOU HAVE MULTIPLE ACCESS OR THEY'RE LOCATED ON A BLOCK THAT DOES HAVE ALLEY ACCESS.
UM, THERE IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST ORGANIZED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
IF, UM, THIS WAS IN A DIFFERENT BLOCK THAT HAD A HISTORY OF, OF, OF TRIPLEX QUADPLEX DOWN THE BLOCK, THEN, THEN, THEN I WOULD BE OPEN TO IT.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT'S A MIDDLE BLOCK WHERE YOU HAVE BASICALLY DUPLEX ONLY AT MAX.
UH, FURTHER DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT COMMISSIONER ORTIZ, I JUST HAVE A ION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UH, NEXT TO YOUR PROPERTY, ARE THOSE FOUR PLEXES ON EACH SIDE OR ARE THOSE DUPLEXES? THEY'RE DUPLEXES, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE LARGER, THEY'RE TWO STORIES DUPLEXES.
YEAH, SO THEY, UH, THEY DO HAVE A LOT OF CARS ON THEIR, ON THEIR PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE LARGER AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE RENTING THEM OUT.
UM, AS TRY, YOU KNOW, I'VE ONLY BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE ONE ON THE RIGHT TO ME HAS FIVE CARS IN THEIR BACKYARD AND THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO FENCING FROM LEFT TO RIGHT AS WELL, WHICH I'M ADDING ALL THE FENCING TO, TO MAKE IT A LOT MORE PRIVATE FOR, FOR MY TENANT.
AND UH, THE ONE ON THE LEFT I THINK HAS, UH, FOUR CARS ON THEIR SIDE AS WELL, BUT THEY'RE JUST LARGER PROPERTIES AND SO I
[01:40:01]
BELIEVE THEY HAVE MORE CARS BECAUSE OF THAT.YOU KNOW, MY UNITS ARE, ARE MUCH SMALLER.
THEY HAVE AT 800 SQUARE FOOT PER SIDE AND THEN THE A D U IS ONLY 400.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT.
UM, BRIEFLY I'M GONNA SUPPORT COMMISSIONER SIPES, UH, MOTION FOR DENIAL IN PART, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE YOU SAID IT, BUT, BUT REALLY ONE OF THE IMPORTANT POINTS THAT WE DO AS ZONING IS IT'S IN PERPETUITY.
AND SO WHILE EVEN IF WE WERE INCLINED TO SUPPORT THIS WITH A LONG-TERM RENTER ON THE RIGHT S T R TWO ON THE LEFT, AND YOUR MOTHER AND YOUR MOTHER, NOT YOUR MOTHER-IN-LAW, YOUR MOTHER IN, IN THE REAR UNIT, WE DO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT SORT OF THE FOREVER HERE.
AND SO AS A RESULT, EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOUR PLAN'S GOOD BECAUSE WE'RE THINKING ABOUT LONG TERM, UH, I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS REQUEST.
ALRIGHT, THERE BEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
MOTION FOR DENIAL OF ITEM NUMBER NINE BY COMMISSIONER SIPES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
COMMISSIONER LEGIA HOLLAND? YES.
ALRIGHT, MR. GRAFF, I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK, SIR.
AT THIS TIME, WHICH IS 2 41, UH, WE ARE GONNA STAND IN RECESS FOR APPROXIMATELY FIVE MINUTES.
WE WILL RE RECONVENE AT APPROXIMATELY 2 46.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE GETTING READY TO GO BACK INTO SESSION.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE GETTING READY TO GO BACK INTO SESSION.
KELLY, IF YOU LOOK OUTSIDE, DO YOU SEE COMMISSIONER WHITE
UH, THE TIME IS 2 49 AND THIS, UH, NOVEMBER 1ST MEETING OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS BACK IN SESSION.
I WOULD NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT COMMISSIONER WHITE IS NOT HERE.
UH, BUT WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 14 ON OUR AGENDA.
ALRIGHT, UH, ITEM NUMBER 14, PLEASE.
MY NAME'S ELIZABETH STEWART, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 14 IS LOCATED AT THREE 15 HENRY STREET.
GOING FROM MF 33 TO ID Z TWO WITH USES PERMITTED FOR C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH ALL OVERLAY STAYING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 59 NOTICES SENT OUT.
ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED WESTIN HOPE AND ACTION NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.
NO RESPONSE FROM PROSPECT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
HARPER CHAPEL MINISTRIES IS IN SUPPORT FROM OUTSIDE 200 FEET AND TWO IN SUPPORT FROM OUTSIDE 200 FEET.
THE EXISTING MF 33 MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
IT ALLOWS THE PROPERTY TO BE DEVELOPED AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME OR UP TO EIGHT MULTI-FAMILY UNITS, ALLOWING SOME ADDITIONAL DENSITY IN THE AREA.
THE PROPOSED ID Z TWO MEDIUM INFILL, SORRY.
MEDIUM INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT WITH USES PERMITTED FOR C TWO IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE, THE REQUESTS WOULD ALLOW COMMERCIAL CREEPAGE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF AN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD.
STAFF FINDS EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN SURROUNDING AREA.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL IF STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE AND IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND TELL US YOUR ADDRESS AND THEN TELL US WHY YOU'RE REQUESTING.
I'M THE OWNER OF, OF THE PROPERTY.
AND ON THE BEGINNING I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF AGREE WITH THE STAFF.
WE PHRASED OUR, UM, UM, OUR REQUEST, LITTLE BIT WRONG, AND WE HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM.
IT'S, UH, C TWO USES IS, IS JUST TOO BRIGHT AND WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A GAS STATION OR TIRE SHOP IN THE, IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL, UH, THIS PROJECT.
UM, IT'S STILL RESIDENTIAL AND WE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE IT AMENDED TO IDZ TWO WITH A SPECIFIC USE FOR ROOMING HOME.
THIS, UH, THIS WASN'T DONE BEFORE BECAUSE WE JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THE, UH, THE CITY RECOMMENDATIONS.
[01:45:02]
WE WORKED WITH THOSE ORGANIZATION HERE ON THE SCREEN, UH, AS WELL AS, UM, UH, DISTRICT ONE.AND WE HAVE ALL SUPPORT FOR, UH, FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UH, BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, IT IS, UM, A ROOMING HOME FOR, UH, HOMELESS YOUTH.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE IDEA.
UM, BEHIND THIS PROJECT WE HAVE A LITTLE CON, A LITTLE PRESENTATION IF, UH, IF YOU DON'T MIND, UH, UH, WHAT IS THIS ABOUT? AND AFTER THAT, I WILL OPEN MYSELF FOR THE QUESTIONS.
LISTEN TO RODRIGUEZ, OFFICE MANAGER FOR MERRICK SOLUTIONS, PROPERTY OWNER AND DEVELOPER FOR THE 3 1 5 HENRY STREET.
UM, SO AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN, BASICALLY WHAT IT IS IS A ROOMING HOME ACCEPTABLE TO, UH, 18 YEAR OLDS WHO ARE AGING OUT OF THE FOSTER SYSTEM, WHO UNFORTUNATELY DIDN'T GET THAT CHANCE TO BE ADOPTED, GET THEIR FOREVER FAMILY.
SO WE'RE JUST, UM, TRYING TO GIVE THEM AN OPEN DOOR TO ANOTHER PLACE TO GO FEEL SECURE AND JUST KNOW THAT NOBODY'S TURNED THEIR BACK ON THEM AT THIS POINT.
SO IF YOU KIND OF JUST KEEP GOING, UM, IT DOES LOOK LIKE A BIG DEVELOPMENT AND IT DOES LOOK LIKE A BIG COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT IS NOT, IT IS BASICALLY AING HOME WHERE IT'S SPECIFIC TO OUR YOUNG, YOUNG ADULTS AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BASICALLY GET THEM OFF THE STREETS AND WHATNOT.
I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH FURTHER HE WANTS ME TO GO INTO DETAIL, BUT AGAIN, UM, THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT WOULD ALLOW FOR A 18 YEAR OLD WHO DID AGE OUTTA THE FOSTER SYSTEM WHO MAY OR MAY NOT BE ACCEPTED INTO ANOTHER AREA DUE TO PREGNANCY OR DUE TO HAVING A CHILD.
AND THIS PARTICULAR BUILD WOULD ACTUALLY ACCOMMODATE A SINGLE PARENT FAMILY.
UM, SO WE ARE PROPOSING, I BELIEVE IT IS 16 UNITS TOGETHER, WHICH IN THE END WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, IT IS 16 CHILDREN OFF OF OUR STREETS AND 16 POTENTIAL FUTURE, YOU KNOW, UM, PEOPLE WHO CAN PROVIDE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
SO AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA GO TOO MUCH INTO DETAIL.
I'LL LET HIM ANSWER MORE QUESTIONS.
UM, MR, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER THING TO SAY BEFORE WE MOVE ON? AND THE LAST THING IS, UH, ALL THIS AREA IS ON MF 33, THE MULTIFAMILY.
SO IN OUR CASE, UH, WE JUST REQUESTING THE I D Z BECAUSE WE SHORT ON THE PARKING AND UH, AND WE WANNA BUILD A FEW, FEW MORE UNITS THAT WE ALLOWED.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND MY REQUEST FOR I IDZ TWO WITH A SPECIFIC USE OF ROOMING HOME.
IT WOULDN'T BE A SPECIFIC USE, BUT FOR A ROOMING HOUSE, FOR A ROOMING HOUSE WITH 16 UNITS, HE DOESN'T HAVE TO LIST OUT THE UNITS.
UM, IT'S A USE THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED.
I THINK I, IT'S UP TO YOU WHETHER YOU WANT HIM TO LIST THE USES OR NOT.
I THINK ROOMING HOUSE IS FINE.
IDY Z TWO WITH USES FOR A ROOMING HOUSE.
I THINK THAT IS NOW SUFFICIENT, UH, FOR THAT AMENDMENT.
UH, BUT YOU MIGHT WANNA STAY IN CASE COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE AS THIS IS A DISTRICT ONE CASE.
MIGHT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
UM, JUST, JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
UM, SO YOU MENTIONED IT'S GOING TO BE A ROOMING HOUSE, 16 UNITS PRIMARILY FOR YOUTH WHO ARE AGING OUT OF FOSTER OR YOUTH WHO ARE, ARE NOT HOMED, UM, NOT OTHERWISE, UH, WITH, WITH A STRUCTURE TO, TO LIVE IN.
UM, ARE YOU IN ANTICIPATING ANY OTHER TYPES OF SUPPORTIVE SERVICES? YES.
ANY TYPES OF, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, EMPLOYEES COMING AND GOING AND KIND OF DESCRIBE TO ME A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DETAIL YOUR OPERATIONS.
UH, YES, THERE WILL BE OTHER SERVICES, BUT SPECIFICALLY JUST FOR THOSE USE.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A KITCHEN WHERE WE'RE GONNA SERVE THEM.
THEN WE ARE GONNA HAVE A OFFICE THAT SOMETIMES WE CAN GET SOME MEDICAL CHECKUP FOR THEM FOR FREE.
THEN WE GONNA HAVE AN OFFICE NOT EMPLOYING, UM, OFFICE, UH, MANAGER OR, OR SOMEBODY WHO'S GONNA RUN IT, BUT SOMEBODY WHO'S GONNA COME OVER THERE AND SERVE THEM.
LIKE, UM, UM, ADVISE, LET'S PUT IT, UH, CASEWORKERS WHERE THE CASEWORKERS WILL BE ABLE TO MEET WITH THEM.
AND, UH, THERE'S A BIG ROOM ALSO ON THE FIRST FLOOR THAT WE DON'T KNOW YET.
WE, WE CALL IT A MULTI, A MULTI-USE ROOM AND MAYBE A LIBRARY, MAYBE A MEETING ROOM OR SOMETHING.
LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT IT WAS DEVELOPED WITH THE COMMUNICATION AND ADVICE FROM THOSE COMPANIES, LIKE, UH, FROM
[01:50:01]
THOSE UH, ORGANIZATIONS.SO WE WERE MEETING, MEETING AND KIND OF DISCUSSING THIS FOR LAST SIX, EIGHT MONTHS.
AND THIS IS THE FINAL, FINAL HOW WE HAVE IT DESIGN.
HOW IS THE, HOW IT'S GONNA BE, UH, INTERIOR OF THOSE.
MAYBE WE CAN GO A LITTLE FARTHER HOW IT'S GONNA LOOK.
KEEP GOING AND THEN YEAH, THIS, THIS IS THE SINGLE ROOM, HOW IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
AND ALL THIS WAS BASED ON THE EXPERIENCE FROM UM, UH, SAM'S MINISTRIES.
WE WENT TO MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH THEM, MEASURED THEIR ROOMS, WHAT THEY, UH, WHAT THEY HAVE OVER THERE AND KIND OF, UH, FOLLOWING THE ADVICE.
THAT'S HOW WE DESIGNED THIS BUILDING.
SO THIS IS, UH, NOT REALLY A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY BEING IN THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT BASICALLY, UM, A MULTI-FAMILY TO LITTLE BIT MORE DENSITY.
UM, I NOTE HERE THAT, THAT THERE'S A, A DUMPSTER, UM, KIND OF CLOSE TO THE STREET.
IS THERE YOU, ARE YOU ANTICIPATING ANY SCREENING OR ANYTHING FOR THAT DUMPSTER? OF COURSE.
YEAH, THIS IS, THIS IS JUST THE, UM, SKETCHES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AND WE'RE GONNA BUILD ON THAT.
DO, SORRY, QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UM, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT THEM TO PUT ON THE SITE PLAN FOR THE SCREENING FOR THE DUMPSTER? THE DUMPSTER? THEY CAN, UH, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S REQUIRED AS PART OF THE PROJECT.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? TO MY LEFT.
COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT STAFF.
WOULD YOU REMIND ME WHAT THE COUNT IS ON THIS PLEASE? THE COUNT ITEM NUMBER 14, THERE WERE 59 NOTICES SENT ONE IN FAVOR.
ZERO OPPOSED WEST END HOPE INACTION NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR.
AND THEN NO RESPONSE FROM PROSPECT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THERE WERE TWO ADDITIONAL, UH, UH, NOTICES IN SUPPORT OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET.
AND HARPER CHAPEL MINISTRIES IS IN SUPPORT.
COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND MOTION.
I DO, I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, UM, JUST TO MAKE A WIRE OUT OF YOU,
UM, JUST A QUESTION TO STAFF SO THAT THE I DZ TWO NOW THAT WE'VE CHANGED FROM THE JUST C TWO IS, IS I D Z TWO STILL THE APPROPRIATE INTENSITY OF I D Z TO USE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT? OR WOULD IT BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO BE I D Z ONE? NO, IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO BE I D Z TWO BECAUSE OF THE HEIGHT.
UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID THEN, UM, I'LL BE MAKING A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR ITEM NUMBER.
I CAN NEVER REMEMBER WHAT ITEM WE'RE ON.
WHAT IS THIS? 14? UM, AS AMENDED.
OH, I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA GET YOU ON THAT ONE.
UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED OF ITEM NUMBER 14 WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER REBATO.
ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT.
ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER? TO MY RIGHT THERE BEING NONE.
UH, MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED.
OKAY, OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 18.
UH, MY NAME IS AL GONZALEZ, UH, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 18 IS LOCATED AT 6 29.
HISTORIC OLD HIGHWAY 90, FORMERLY ENRIQUE AND BARRERA PARKWAY.
GOING FROM C TWO NA TO C TWO WITH ALL OTHER OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 24 NOTICES SENT OUT.
ONE IN OPPOSITION LOS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN OPPOSITION AND ZERO IN FAVOR OR OPPOSED OUTSIDE 200 FEET ON MAY 5TH, 2011.
[01:55:01]
ZERO FIVE DASH ZERO FIVE DASH 360 2 INTRODUCED A LARGE AREA REZONING CONTAINING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.THE REZONE PRESCRIBED C TWO N A COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC CELLS DISTRICT FOR THIS AREA.
THERE IS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WITHIN ENCLOSED PROXIMITY OF THE SITE.
ALTHOUGH THE PROPOSED C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS CONSISTENT WITH FUTURE LAND USE, UH, DESIGNATION, UH, IT IS CONTRARY TO THE LARGE AREA REZONING ORDINANCE.
IT WILL NOT FIT INTO THE AREA'S EXISTING CHARACTER STAFF FINDS EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS.
IN RELATION TO THE REZONING REQUEST, THIS AREA WAS PURPOSELY REZONED C TWO AND A AND C THREE R AS PART OF THE LARGE AR REZONING WHERE THE PUBLIC GUIDED INPUT FOR NO, FOR NO ALCOHOLIC CELLS OR USES IN THIS AREA.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT MR. VARGAS? MR. VARGAS? NO, HE'S NOT.
HE SAW, UM, WELL HE KNEW HIS RECOMMENDATION WAS DENIAL, BUT HE ALSO SAW THAT HE HAD OPPOSITION AND HE SAID HE DID NOT WANT DO ANY PUBLIC SPEAKING.
AND SO THE NEXT THING WE KNEW HE WAS NO LONGER IN ATTENDANCE.
UM, AND WE DIDN'T SEE HIM OUTSIDE STILL? NO, SIR.
UM, THIS IS A DISTRICT SIX CASE, SO COMMISSIONER HUI TO YOU.
SO YEAH, I WENT, I WENT, I REVIEWED THE CASE AND, YOU KNOW, BEING, YOU KNOW, SMALL BUSINESSES HAVING A VERY DIFFICULT TIME, ESPECIALLY, UH, POST COVID AND, YOU KNOW, RESTAURANT BUSINESSES, THE, THE MARGINS ARE SO, SO TIGHT AND I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO, YOU KNOW, TO GET A, UM, A REZONING.
BUT YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY SPOKE BACK IN 2011 AS PART OF THE LARGE AREA REZONING AND IT WAS PURPOSELY, UH, DECIDED BACK THEN FOR THIS CORRIDOR TO BE NON-ALCOHOLIC.
SO, UM, I'M GOING TO, UM, GO WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO DENY THIS APPLICATION.
ALRIGHT, THERE, I'LL OPEN UP FOR OTHER, UH, COMMENTS.
UM, ANY OTHER COM? WELL, THERE'S A MOTION FOR DENIAL.
OR ARE, UH, I'M MAKING A MOTION FOR DENIAL.
THERE'S A MOTION FOR DENIAL OF ITEM NUMBER 18.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? TO MY RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER LAG HOLLAND? YES.
COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE ABSTAIN.
[Approval of Minutes ]
THE LAST ITEM IS APPROVAL, UH, CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF OUR OCTOBER 18TH, 2022 ZONING COMMITTEE.UH, ANY CORRECTIONS, AMENDMENTS, AMENDMENTS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE? LOOKING TO MY LEFT, LOOKING TO MY RIGHT.
IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE MINUTES.
THERE'S A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER SIPES.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR BY ACCLIMATION SAY AYE.
ANY ABSTENTIONS? ALRIGHT, UH, ONE OTHER NOTE IS THAT 2 51 COMMISSIONER OR COMMISSIONER ORTIZ AND WHITE RETURN TO OUR MEETING FOR THE RECORD.
UM, IS THERE ANY DIRECTOR'S REPORT TODAY? NO, SIR.
ALL THE TIME IS 3 0 5 AND THIS MEETING OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS ADJOURNED.