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WELCOME

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TO THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD.

UH, WE WILL, AT THE TIME NOW IS, UH, 9:03 AM AND WE HAVE, YES.

CAN'T HEAR ME.

YES.

IF YOU CAN'T HEAR YOU.

OH, YOU CAN'T HEAR ME.

OKAY.

SOMEBODY IN THE LITTLE ROOM NEEDS TO PUMP UP THE VOLUME ON THE MICROPHONE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

HOW IS THAT? IS THAT BETTER? ALL RIGHT.

CAN WE GET A CALL OR ORDER, PLEASE? I'M SORRY.

CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL? ? I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE IN A LONG TIME.

DWAYNE NELSON.

PRESENT.

JESSE ZUNIGA.

PRESENT.

ROBERT TAPIA.

PRESENT MS. BROWN.

HERE.

DAVID GARZA.

CHERISE GUPTE.

HERE.

ALSO PRESENT IN THE MEETING FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ARE ERIC BURNS FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

JENNY RAMIREZ, CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER.

JUDY KRUM.

B S B LIAISON.

JENNIFER MARTINEZ, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TWO.

AND MYSELF, ESTHER ORTIZ, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SPECIALIST.

CHAIR.

A CORUS PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

UH, COULD WE GET THE SPANISH TRANSLATION PLEASE? GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS JEAN MARIE RINI.

I'M ONE OF THESE SPANISH INTERPRETERS AND THANK YOU.

OKAY.

WE WILL NOW HAVE THE, UH, CHAIRMAN STATEMENT READ BY MR. TAPIA.

GOOD MORNING.

THIS IS ROBERT TOP YOU.

PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES OR ANY, ANY DEVICE THAT MAY DISRUPT THIS, THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

NO PERSON SHALL DELAY OR DISRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS OR DISOBEY THE ORDER OF THE CHAIR.

IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON A CASE, YOU WILL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES.

HOWEVER, AN OWNER OR OWNERS REPRESENTATIVE WILL HAVE UNLIMITED TIME.

PLEASE KEEP ALL INFORMATION RELEVANT TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION AND THE CODE VIOLATION AS ADVISED PRIOR TO THIS PUBLIC HEARING, THE CITY WILL PROVIDE TRANSLATION SERVICES FOR ANYONE NEEDING ASSISTANCE.

IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU HAVE MADE SUCH ARRANGEMENTS AS ADVISED IN YOUR NOTICE OF HEARING.

OUR EXPECTATION IS THAT YOU SUBMIT THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTS PRIOR TO THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A PROPERTY OWNER OR LIEN HOLDER OF A DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE CASE IS TO BE DEMONSTRATED THE FOLLOWING.

ONE, PROVIDE THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTS.

DISCUSS YOUR DETAILED SCOPE OF WORK WITH THE COST OF EACH ITEM OUTLINED IN ORDER TO BRING THE PROPERTY IN COMPLIANCE TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE CODE OFFICER.

TWO, SUBMIT THE REQUIRED PROOF OF FINANCIAL ABILITY TO PAY FOR PROPOSED WORK AND DISCUSS FEASIBILITY OF REPAIRS DEPENDENT UPON THE MONIES AT HAND.

THREE.

REQUEST THE AMOUNT OF TIME NEEDED TO COMPLETE THE WORK.

ALL ABATEMENTS ORDERED BY THE BOARD SHALL BE ENFORCED.

ALL WORK PROPOSED MUST BE DONE WITHIN CODE REGULATIONS WITH REQUIRED PERMITS PRIOR TO THE COMMENCEMENT OF WORK.

YOU MAY OBTAIN ALL PERMITS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES LOCATED 1901 SOUTH ALAMO STREET, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 4.

IF IN DOUBT AS TO THE PROCESS DURING THIS TIME, PLEASE CONTACT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.

ANY OWNER OR LIEN HOLDER DISSATISFIED WITH AN ORDER OF THIS BOARD MAY FILE AN APPEAL IN COURT IN CIVIL COURT DISTRICT COURT WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER THE DATE THAT THE ORDER IS MAILED.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ORDERS, PLEASE CONTACT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF MEMBER BY PHONE AT (210) 207-5422.

PLEASE NOTE THAT IT IS UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSONS PRESENT TO SOLICIT OR PEDAL SERVICES REGARDING ANY PROPERTY UNDER CONSIDERATION BY THIS BOARD DURING THE COURSE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

AS PER CITY CODE SECTION 16 DASH 2 3 6.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

IF YOU ALL ARE WONDERING WHY I DON'T READ THE CHAIRMAN'S STATEMENT ANYMORE IS BECAUSE I CAN'T SEE THAT LITTLE TINY PRINT.

OKAY.

SO, UH, MY VICE CHAIR WILL READ IT FOR ME, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE ON THESE, UH, WHATEVER THEY ARE.

IT'S STILL NOT ENOUGH.

I NEED SOMETHING ABOUT THIS TALL.

BUT ANYWAY, UH,

[ Approval of Minutes  ]

OKAY.

THE NEXT THING WILL BE THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

DID EVERYBODY GET A COPY OF THE MINUTES AND READ THEM? I MOVE.

DOES ROBERT TAPIA MOVE TO APPROVE

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AS WRITTEN? OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? DWAYNE NELSON SECOND.

AND MR. NELSON SECONDED.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION.

COULD WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? DWAYNE NELSON.

AYE.

JESSE ZUNIGA.

AYE.

ROBERT TAPIA.

AYE.

MS. BROWN? AYE.

SHERI GUPTI AYE.

THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED WITH THE VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO.

GREAT, THANK YOU.

NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UM,

[ Briefing and Possible Action on the following items  ]

A STAFF REPORT.

MS. JENNY, GOOD MORNING BOARD MEMBERS.

UH, MY NAME IS JENNY RAMIREZ, CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

I HAVE A COUPLE ITEMS TO READ INTO THE RECORD.

LET'S SEE IF I MAY PROCEED.

MS. BROWN? ABSOLUTELY.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, WE WILL BE PULLING ONE ITEM FROM TODAY'S AGENDA.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, LISTED AS A DANGEROUS PREMISE, 6 55 HUMBOLDT IN COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE.

WE HAVE THAT RESCHEDULED, UH, TENTATIVELY FOR DECEMBER THE EIGHTH OF 2022.

UM, THE NEXT ITEM WE'LL BE READING INTO THE RECORD STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 74 36 WEST WEST MILITARY DRIVE WAS DEMOLISHED AS AN EMERGENCY ON OCTOBER THE 12TH OF 2022 DUE TO A FIRE WHICH OCCURRED ON SEPTEMBER THE 20TH OF 20 20 20 OF 2022.

PURSUANT TO CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 75, NO FURTHER ACTION IS NEEDED BY THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.

UM, THAT DOES COMPLETE MY, MY REPORT.

THERE ARE BEFORE AND AFTER PICTURES, AND I DO CORRECT THAT I HAVE THIS LISTED AS A FIRE.

THIS WAS A ABANDONED TRAILER.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT ON THE NOTES.

UM, YEAH, I MISREAD THAT THIS WAS ABANDONED IN A PARKING LOT.

UM, THEY HAD BEEN, IT HAD BEEN MOVED FROM ONE PROPERTY, BUT DURING THE MOVE, I BELIEVE ONE OF THE AXLES WAS, WAS BROKEN AND THE MOVERS ABANDONED IT IN A PROPERTY.

AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THERE WAS NO WAY TO ACTUALLY FIX IT OR GET IT MOVED OTHER THAN TO, UH, PHYSICALLY HAVE IT DEMOLISHED.

OKAY.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. JENNY? UH, YES.

MR. ROBERT TAPIA? YES.

DO WE HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC IN THE CODE THAT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES MOBILE? MOBILE, UH, TRAILERS, UM, DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY STATE MOBILE TRAILERS, RIGHT? IT WAS, IT'S STILL IDENTIFIED AS A STRUCTURE.

UM, IT CAN BE IDENTIFIED AS REAL PROPERTY DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF IT, BUT THAT ONE WAS DEFINITELY, UM, CONSIDERED AS AN ACTUAL STRUCTURE BECAUSE OF THE SIZE, BECAUSE OF WHERE IT SAT ON THAT PARKING LOT.

UM, THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THE DEFINITION OF A STRUCTURE IS PRETTY, IS PRETTY BROAD, AND THAT'S WHAT WE CARRIED IT AS AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

OKAY.

THANK IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T IDENTIFY SPECIFICALLY MOBILE HOMES OR RVS OR THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT WE, BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF IT, THE MEASUREMENT HEIGHT, WIDTH AND EVERYTHING.

RIGHT.

UM, WE, WE CARRIED IT AS AN ACTUAL STRUCTURE AND THE PICTURES SUPPORT THAT AS WELL.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

THE, I DON'T HAVE THE SPECS ON IT, BUT THAT LOOKED LIKE AT LEAST A, A 25 FOOTER IF NOT LONGER.

CORRECT.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ABSOLUTELY.

QUESTION IT.

YES SIR.

IT'S, UH, IN DISTRICT SIX WHEN IT, WHERE IT WAS FOUND OR YES, THAT'S WHY IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHO, WHO OWNED IT.

DO YOU KNOW WHO OWNED IT AND WHERE WERE THEY WERE MOVING IT FROM? I DO NOT HAVE THAT DIRECT INFORMATION.

UM, MY GENERAL KNOWLEDGE IS IT WAS REMOVED FROM ONE TRAILER PARK.

UH, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE INTENDED LOCATION WAS MEANT TO GO.

UM, BUT THE WAY THAT TRAILERS OR THE MOBILE HOMES ARE TYPICALLY THEY'RE OWNED INDIVIDUALLY.

UM, SO IT WAS AN INDIVIDUALLY OWNED MOBILE HOME.

IT DID NOT BELONG ON THAT PROPERTY WHERE IT LANDED OR WHERE WAS LEFT AND ABANDONED.

IT WAS COMPLETELY ABANDONED IN A COMMERCIAL STRIP CENTER PARKING LOT IS WHERE IT WAS.

I BELIEVE THAT WAS OVER, UM, YEAH, RIGHT THERE OFF OF, OFF OF WEST MILITARY.

THAT'S WHERE IT, THAT'S WHERE IT ENDED UP AT THAT, THAT WAS NOT ITS ORIGINAL DESTINATION, NOR WAS IT ITS INTENDED DESTINATION.

YEAH.

UNFORTUNATELY.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

ABSOLUTELY.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS? YES, I HAVE A QUESTION.

YES, MA'AM.

AND I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ANSWER THIS.

OH, ANYBODY CAN, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE SEEMS TO BE QUITE A LOT OF FIRES IN SAN ANTONIO AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD ANSWERS TO THAT.

I MEAN, I KNOW HOMELESS PEOPLE MOVE INTO ANYWHERE WHERE THERE'S VACANCY.

UH, YOU KNOW, IF A SHELTER MISS CHAIR, THIS IS, THIS IS LEGAL.

I I, IF THIS NEEDS TO BE EXPLORED, LET'S, I WOULD URGE US TO DO IT DURING ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS. OKAY.

AND LET'S, LET'S FOCUS ON THE, UM, THE PROPERTIES

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THAT WE HAVE IN.

OKAY.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, WELL, MS. IS MS. BROWN, I CAN ALSO JUST EVEN IN ADDITION TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS, THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN CERTAINLY REACH OUT TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT JUST IN GENERAL, UM, AND POTENTIALLY HAVE THEM COME AND, AND GIVE A PRESENTATION ON THE NEXT FULL BOARD.

I KNOW IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT BEFORE AN NEXT FULL BOARD, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY START KIND OF PENCILING IN AS A, A SUBJECT OF CONCERN AND INFORMATION.

OKAY.

BUT WE CAN TALK FURTHER.

DEFINITELY.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

YES, MA'AM.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS? NO MORE QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

OKAY, LET'S DO OUR INDIVIDUAL CASES.

UH, WE'LL START WITH 1252, UH, CLOWER.

GOOD MORNING BOARD.

GOOD MORNING.

FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS JOSHUA MARTINEZ, DANGEROUS PREMISE OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

THE STRUCTURE BEING PRESENTED TODAY IS LOCATED AT 1252 LAUER WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FOR DEMOLITION IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX.

THIS CASE IS THE FIRST TIME 1252 LAUER IS BEING PRESENTED BEFORE THE BOARD.

PLEASE NOTE ON NOVEMBER 8TH, 2021, A DANGEROUS ASSESSMENT RESPONSE TEAM INSPECTION WAS CONDUCTED.

THE INSPECTION IS A COLLABORATED INSPECTION WITH A VARIETY OF CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT INCLUDE THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS N C B 7 1 64 BLOCK 1 0 1, LOT TWO LOCATED IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE.

THE OWNER ON RECORD IS FELIX ROBERT SWES THROUGH THE BURKE COUNTY APPRAISAL WITH THE MAILING ADDRESS OF PO BOX 5 2 5 1 SANTO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 1.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT WE JUST FOUND OUT AND, AND WERE ABLE TO VERIFY THAT FELICIA RWA IS THE NEW OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.

MR. SWATS DID STATE TO ME OUTSIDE THAT HE SOLD THE PROPERTY TWO MONTHS AGO.

THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS ARE PRESENT TODAY, MR. AND MS. SUAREZ AND SS A P D, THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRES PRESENT PRESERVATION HAS CONFIRMED ON MARCH 10TH, 2022.

THE PROPERTY IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION.

THE FOLLOWING IS A TIMELINE OF EVENTS REGARDING NOTIFICATION PROCESS.

THE FIRST INSPECTION REGARDING 1252 KLAW WAS CONDUCTED ON FEBRUARY 7TH, 2022.

THE ORIGINAL NOTICE WAS MAILED ON MARCH EIGHT, FOURTH, 2022, WITH A CERTIFIED RECEIPT RETURN ON CLAIM ON MARCH 29TH, 2022 ON OCTOBER 21ST, 2022.

THE NOTICE FOR THE B S B HEARING WAS POSTED AT 1252 LAUER ON OCTOBER 19TH, 2022.

THE NOTICE FOR THE B S B HEARING WAS MAILED TO FELIX ROBERT SUAREZ, AS WELL AS THE NEW OWNER, FELICIA SUAREZ, WITH THE CERTIFIED RECEIPT STILL PENDING RETURN ON OCTOBER 28TH, 2022, AN ADMINISTRATIVE WARRANT WAS EXECUTED TO OBTAIN PHO PHOTOGRAPHS FOR THE STRUCTURE BEING PRESENTED TODAY FOR THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD.

NO SCOPE OF WORK OR FINANCIAL PROOF OR LETTER OF CREDIT OR ENGINEERING REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED.

ON FEBRUARY 23RD, 2022, A MINOR BUILDING REPAIR PERMIT WAS ISSUED TO THE OWNER AT THE TIME, MR. SUAREZ, THAT INCLUDED FOUR WINDOWS, THREE DOORS TO BE INSTALLED, SHEET ROCK AS NEEDED, UH, INSTALLING FLOORING THROUGHOUT AND REPLACING SIDING, WHICH AT THIS TIME WE DID ALLOW THE OWNER TO MAKE ALL REPAIRS AND ALL ALLOW 'EM SIX MONTHS.

THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET FROM WILSON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

WE WERE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING A NOTICE TO VACATE FOR THIS PROPERTY WHILE IT WAS BEING OCCUPIED.

NO GAS OR ELECTRIC POWER WAS SHOT OFF ON OCTOBER 18TH, 2022.

ON THAT DAY, WE HAD N H S D ASSIST US TO OFFER ASSISTANCE TO THE TENANT THAT WAS STAYING ON THE PROPERTY.

DURING THAT TIME, I FOUND AN EXTENSION CORD RUNNING FROM THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY TO POWER 1252 PLOWER.

AS I GO INTO THE PHOTOS, I'LL GO INTO FURTHER DEPTH OF WHY THAT SITUATION ON THAT DAY.

SAWS IS, IT HAS AN IN ACTIVE SERVICE.

THERE'S MULTIPLE CALLS FOR SS A P D.

THERE'S A FILE REPORT ON RECORD AS WELL.

THE PHOTOS BEING PRESENTED TODAY WERE TAKEN ON AUGUST 17TH, 2022 AND OCTOBER 28TH, 2022.

ON AUGUST 17TH, 2022, A WARRANT WAS EXECUTED WITH S A P D TO REASSESS THE STRUCTURE TO SEE WHAT WORKS HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

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DURING THE, AFTER OUR INSPECTION WAS CONDUCTED, MR. SUAREZ WAS ON SITE, AND AS I WAS GONNA GO TO SPEAK TO MR. SUAREZ, HE DID STATE THAT HE DOES HAVE AN ATTORNEY PRESENT WHILE BEING IRATE, I WAS INSTRUCTED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO NO LONGER SPEAK WITH THE OWNER TILL HIS ATTORNEY CONTACTS THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

MOVING ON TO THE PHOTOS HERE, THIS IS GONNA BE THE FRONT ELEVATION IN THE CENTER OF THIS STRUCTURE.

UH, ALONG THE SECOND FLOOR TO THE SIDING, THERE WAS DAMAGE DONE THERE.

THE OWNER DID REPAIR THAT.

THE OWNER HAS ALSO MADE THIS STRUCTURE INTO A DUPLEX, WHICH WITH THE CURRENT ZONING DOESN'T ALLOW THAT ON THE PROPERTY TO THE RIGHT OF THE STRUCTURE, YOU'LL SEE SOME, SOME, SOME WOOD MEMBERS HOLDING UP A STONE FACADE.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

A CLOSER LOOK TO THE CENTER OF THE BUILDING ITSELF.

YOU'LL SEE THAT THE SIDING HAS BEEN REMOVED, EXPOSING ALL THE INTERIOR WOOD MEMBERS TO STUDS AS WELL THAT ARE EXPOSED TO THE ELEMENTS.

THE WATER HEATER AS WELL, SORRY, THE WATER HEATER AS WELL IS EXPOSED TO THE ELEMENTS AS WELL AS NEW PLUMBING RUNNING ACROSS BETWEEN THE WATER HEATER AND THE STRUCTURE ITSELF.

NEXT SLIDE.

HERE'S A CLOSE LOOK OF THE STONE FACADE.

YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A FOUR BY FOUR AS WELL AS TWO BY FOURS PROPPING IT UP TO PREVENT IT FROM COLLAPSING AS WELL AS A STRAP THAT'S RUNNING AROUND THIS, THE STONE FACADE FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER TO HELP SUPPORT THAT STRUCTURE FROM THAT PORTION OF COLLAPSING.

NEXT SLIDE.

HERE'S OUR CLOSER LOOK OF THE STRAP AND THE SEPARATION FROM THE WALL.

NOW LOOKING DOWN TO THE RIGHT ELEVATION, YOU SEE THAT THE FOUNDATION BEAMS ARE ROTTED OUT AND DETERIORATED AND RESTING ON GRADE.

THIS IS GONNA BE FROM THE FRONT OF THE STRUCTURE ON THE RIGHT SIDE.

NEXT SLIDE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S BEEN PLUMBING WORK BEING DONE AND CONDUCTED ON THE PROPERTY.

NOW, FROM THE RIGHT SIDE TO THE BACK SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE, THERE'S NEW PLUMBING THAT WAS CONDUCTED.

AS WELL AS THIS IS TO INDICATE THE, WHERE THE OVERHANG AND THE STRUCTURE ARE, HOW CLOSE THEY ARE TO THE, TO THE FENCE LINE.

UH, IT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT THREE FEET SEPARATION.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST TO ALSO SHOW WHERE THE PLUMBING THAT THE OWNER'S BEEN DOING ONTO THE PROPERTY.

NEXT SLIDE.

HERE'S A CLOSER LOOK OF THE PLUMBING WORK.

ALSO SHOWING, ALSO SHOWING THAT THE FOUNDATION WOOD MEMBERS ARE ALSO RESTING UNGRADED TOWARDS THE, TOWARDS THE REAR OF THE STRUCTURE, AS WELL AS RODING DETERIORATED AND ALSO DISCONNECTED FROM EACH OTHER.

THIS GONNA BE THE REAR ELEVATION.

THERE'S EGRESS CONCERNS WITH THE WINDOWS.

I WILL STATE ON OCTOBER 28TH, THERE WAS NO SIGNS OF ANYONE STAYING ON THE PROPERTY, BUT ON AUGUST 17TH, THERE WAS INDIVIDUALS STAYING IN THE PROPERTY AS WELL.

ON THIS PHOTO HERE, YOU'LL SEE THAT ELECTRICAL, THE ELECTRICAL, UH, BREAKER BOX.

THERE'S AN ELECTRICAL CORD RUNNING FROM THE UNDERNEATH THE BREAKER BOX THAT WRAPS AROUND THE RISER.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND SHOWS THAT IT'S BEEN SPLICED INTO THE RISER.

NOW, AGAIN, ON AUGUST 18TH IS WHERE WE WENT BACK OUT THERE TO HAVE N H N H S D TO OFFER ASSISTANCE BECAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE STAYING ON THE PROPERTY.

FOR THIS CONCERN HERE, I DID CONTACT C P S TO HAVE THEIR, UH, THEIR REPRESENTATIVES INSPECT THIS CONCERN ON AUGUST 18TH, THEY DID GO OUT THERE AND CONFIRM WITH ME THAT THE C P S HAD DISCONNECTED THE POWER FROM THE RISER.

I WAS ALREADY IN THE PROCESS OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THE NOTICE TO VACATE, BUT ONCE I GOT THE CONFIRMATION, I JUST FORWARDED TO MY, MY, MY, MY SUPER, MY SUPERIORS.

ON THIS PHOTO HERE, AUGUST 17TH, 2022, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE POWER WAS LIVE, NOT A PHOTO TAKING FROM THE REAR OF THE STRUCTURE TOWARD LOOKING TOWARDS THE FRONT STONE FACADE IS STARTING TO DETACH FROM THE WALL, AS WELL AS MORE CONSTRUCTION BEING BUILT TOWARDS THE FRONT OF THE, OF THE BUILDING.

I'LL TAKE FROM THE FRONT, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE WORK IS BEING DONE.

THEY'RE ADDING MORE, MORE WOOD MEMBERS TO THE ROOF SYSTEM THAT IS STARTING TO WORK TOWARDS THE NEIGHBORING PROP, WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING ON FILE THAT STATES HE'S ALLOWED TO DO THAT.

WE ALSO HAVE NOTHING ON FILE THAT STATES HE HAS, UH, PERMITS FOR ELECTRICAL OR PLUMBING.

THEREFORE, WE DID DO A STOP OF WORK ORDER AND ISSUED A, A, A TEMPORARY HOLD UNTIL THE OWNERS

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CAME INTO THE BUILDING TO HAVE THEM SPEAK WITH OUR PERMIT DEPARTMENT.

NOW, MOVING INSIDE THE STRUCTURE, THIS IS THE, THIS IS WHERE I HAD TO GO INTO THE BUILDING, WHICH IS THROUGH THE WINDOW.

THERE'S SIGNS OF WORK BEING DONE INSIDE TO THE WALLS.

OWNER HAS, UH, PAINTED OVER THE WALLS.

AT THIS TIME, I ALSO PLACED MY LEVEL ON THE FLOOR.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SHOWING THAT THE FLOOR IS NOT LEVEL.

NEXT SLIDE.

NOW IN THE SAME ROOM, YOU'LL SEE THERE IS A LARGE HOLE IN THE THE FLOOR.

NEXT SLIDE.

YOU'LL SEE THE PLUMBING'S DISCONNECTED.

YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S A JACK UNDERNEATH THE WOOD MEMBER FOR THE FOUNDATION.

AND IT DOES AND IT DOES APPEAR THAT IT'S SUPPORTING IT TO HELP STABILIZE THAT, THAT WOOD MEMBER.

THERE THERE IS ELECTRICAL LINES I'D LIKE TO NOTE AS WELL.

NEXT SLIDE.

THIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN ON AUGUST 17TH, SHOWING THAT THAT WAS FULL OF WATER WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS OCCUPIED WITH LIVE ELECTRICAL RUNNING IN UNDER, INSIDE, UNDERNEATH THE FOUNDATION.

IN THIS PHOTO HERE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE, THE CEILING JOISTS, YOU'LL SEE THE ROOF SYSTEM.

YOU'LL SEE NEW ELECTRICAL RUNNING, BEING RUNNING THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING THAT IS LIVE.

YOU'LL ALSO NOTE THAT THERE IS CHAR DAMAGE, UH, FIRE DAMAGE TO THE, TO THE ROOF SYSTEM.

AND YOU CAN SEE, I'M SORRY, GO BACK.

IN THE CENTER OF THIS PHOTO, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE CEILING JOIST HAS FIRE DAMAGE, WHICH WAS PAINTED OVER.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

HERE'S A CLOSER LOOK OF ANOTHER AREA SHOWING THE FIRE DAMAGE AND CHARRING TO THE DECKING, AS WELL AS THE CEILING JOISTS AND RAFTERS THAT HAS BEEN PAINTED OVER BY THE OWNER EXPOSED ELECTRICAL THAT IS LIVE, SHOWING SIGNS OF WORK BEING DONE TO THE ELECTRICAL.

THE WHOLE ROOF SYSTEM HAS BEEN PAINTED, SO THE OWNER HAS PAINTED THE FIRE DAMAGE AS WELL AS SMOKE DAMAGE THROUGH THE ENTIRE ROOF SYSTEM.

IN THIS PHOTO, YOU'LL SEE AGAIN SOME CHARING TO THE WOOD MEMBERS ON THE LEFT AND RIGHT SIDE, AS WELL AS THE ELECTRICAL BEAN RUNNING THROUGH THAT'S CURRENTLY LIVE.

MORE ELECTRICAL RUNNING THAT'S EXPOSED.

AGAIN, SIGNS OF PAINT BEING, UH, THE OWNERS PAINTING OVER THE WOOD MEMBERS TO THE ROOF SYSTEM.

IN THE BACK, YOU WILL SEE THERE'S SOME SMOKE AS WELL AS SOME CHARRING TO THE DECKING.

THIS IS GONNA BE THE FRONT LIVING ROOM, THE AIR VENT.

YOU CAN SEE THERE'S SMOKE DAMAGE TO THAT, WHICH INDICATES THAT THERE'S SMOKE DAMAGE THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE ROOM THAT HAS BEEN CURRENTLY BEEN PAINTED OVER.

THERE'S NEW WOOD MEMBERS SUPPORTING THE ROOF SYSTEM.

NEXT PHOTO, AND FROM THE SAME ROOM, YOU'LL SEE THAT THIS IS THE WORK THAT, UH, THE OWNERS COULD ALREADY TO DO FOR THE DOOR, ONE OF THE DOORS THAT HE HAD STATED ON HIS PERMIT.

MOVING INTO THE, TO ONE OF THE ANOTHER HALLWAY, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE MORE CHARRING TO THE ROOF SYSTEM, TO THE CEILING, SORRY, WITH EXPOSED ELECTRICAL THAT'S BEING RAN THROUGH THERE AS WELL.

AND THAT HAS BEEN CURRENTLY PAINTED OVER.

MOVING INTO THE KITCHEN, YOU SEE SMOKE DAMAGE AS WELL AS SIGNS OF PAINT AS WELL TO THE, TO THE ROOF, WHICH APPEARS IT'S STARTING TO BE COVERED UP AS WELL.

IN THE SAME ROOM, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE SUBFLOOR IS LIFTED UP AND THERE'S A, THERE'S A, A, A SEPARATION IN THE, IN THE FLOORING.

THIS IS THE BACK ROOM.

YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S WORK BEING DONE TO THE STAIRS.

THERE'S ITEMS IN THE BACK SHOWING SIGNS OF OWNER DOING, MOVING THINGS AROUND, MOVING ITEMS AROUND.

AS WELL AS, UH, WORK BEING CONDUCTED INSIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

THE BUILDING, HERE'S A CLOSER LOOK OF THE STAIRS AS WELL AS THE WORK THAT THE OWNER'S BEEN DOING.

I LIKE TO STATE THAT, STATE THAT THESE STAIRS ARE VERY STEEP.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

REAL QUICK TO SHOW, TO INDICATE WHERE MY FOOT LAYS HALF OF MY FOOT IS ON THE STEP, AS THE OTHER HALF IS NO LONGER ON THAT STEP.

SO AS I'M WALKING UP THE STAIRS, I'M WALKING SIDEWAYS TO MAKE SURE MY ENTIRE FOOT IS ON THE STEPS.

MOVING UP INTO THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE LOFT, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S ANIMAL FECES ALL OVER THE FLOOR AS WELL AS SMOKE DAMAGE TO THE WALLS.

NEXT SLIDE.

AM STILL CURRENTLY IN THE CENTER OF THE, OF THIS ROOM AND I'M CROUCHING.

THE ROOM IS NOT SIX FEET HEIGHT.

IT'S A LITTLE SHORTER THAN THAT.

YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S SOME SUPPORT WOOD MEMBERS ALONG THE CEILING, AS WELL AS THIS WOODEN MEMBER HERE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PHOTO THAT'S BEING PLACED TO THE FLOOR THAT RUNS UP TO THE CEILING.

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YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S ALSO FIRE DAMAGE TO THE REAR OF THIS ROOM, TOWARDS THE BACK OF IT TO THE RIGHT SIDE IN THIS PHOTO, AS WELL AS SMOKE DAMAGE TO THE WALLS AND CEILING.

AND HERE'S A CLOSE.

PLEASE BE CAREFUL.

THANK YOU.

HERE'S ALSO JUST A CLOSER LOOK OF THE FIRE DAMAGE TO THE ROOF SYSTEM.

AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE WHERE TOWARDS THE BACK AND THE CENTER OF THAT HOLE, THAT'S WHERE THE OWNER'S STARTING TO PAINT OVER THE FIRE DAMAGE.

NOW MOVING ON TO THE ROOM THAT WAS OCCUPIED.

I WAS UNFORTUNATELY ABLE TO GO INSIDE OF THAT UNIT TO GET UPDATED PHOTOS.

SO THESE PHOTOS WERE TAKEN ON AUGUST 17TH, 2022.

THE OWNER DID HAVE EVERYTHING COMPLETELY SECURED OFF, WHICH PREVENTED ME TO BE ABLE TO GO INSIDE.

IN THE BACK OF THIS PHOTO, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S COOKING MATERIALS WHERE THE TENANT WAS COOKING FOOD ELEC A LIVE ELECTRICAL RUNNING THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE ROOM AS WELL.

YOU'LL ALSO SEE THAT THERE'S A FOUR BY FOUR THAT'S HOLDING UP THE, THAT'S CONNECTED TO THE CEILING IN THE CENTER OF THIS ROOM.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THERE'S A BROKEN CRACK PIPE THAT WAS FOUND AS WELL.

NOW MOVING AROUND TOWARDS THE BACK IN THE SAME ROOM, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S SEPARATION TO THE CEILING AS WELL AS THE WALL TOWARDS THE TOP OF THIS PHOTO THAT RUNS FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER.

AND HERE'S A CLOSER LOOK OF THAT FOUR BY FOUR.

THAT'S BEING, THAT'S HOLDING UP THE CEILING.

YOU'LL SEE THAT IT IS STARTING TO DETACH AS WELL.

AND SEPARATE MOVING INTO ONE OF THE ROOMS, YOU'LL SEE THAT I DID, I DID PLACE THE, A LEVEL ON THE FLOOR 'CAUSE THE FLOOR WAS UNLEVEL AND AS WELL AS INDICATING THAT THERE'S A LARGE AMOUNT OF ITEMS THROUGHOUT THIS BUILDING.

THIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN FROM MY EYE LEVEL SHOWING THAT THERE'S A, A LIVE ELECTRIC CORD RUNNING ACROSS, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW LOW THAT WIRE WIRE WAS RUNNING.

MOVING INTO THE BATHROOM, YOU'LL SEE THE CARPET AND THE, THE TUB WHERE THEY CONNECT.

ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PHOTO, YOU'LL SEE HOW IT DROPS.

GOING TO THE LEFT FROM ONE WALL TO THE, FROM WALL TO THE RIGHT.

GOING TO THE WALL TO THE LEFT, YOU'LL SEE WHERE IT DOES DROP.

APOLOGIZE FOR THE BLURRY ON THIS PHOTO, BUT IT, IT DOES INDICATE WHERE THAT BUBBLE IS AT, SHOWING THAT THE FLOOR IS NOT LEVEL.

THE OWNER HAS HOLES IN THE WALLS, WHICH HAS USED THE SHOWER CURTAINS TO COVER.

AGAIN, THIS UNIT WAS OCCUPIED.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THERE WAS A HOLE IN THE, IN THE CEILING SHOWING SIGNS OF PAINT BEING PAINTED OVER THE FIRE, DAMAGE TO THE ROOF SYSTEM, THE CEILING JOIST RAPTORS, AND AS WELL AS THE DECKING BOARD.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO JUST CLARIFY THAT THIS WAS A DART INSPECTION THAT WAS CONDUCTED BACK ON NOVEMBER ON, UM, PULL IT UP REAL QUICK ON, IN FEBRUARY OF 2022.

TO RECAP, THE STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 1252 LAUER IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER 6, 1 56, SUBSECTIONS 2, 4, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18.

WHICH IN ANY BUILDING OR STRUCTURE, WHICH HAS ANY OR ALL THE CONDITIONS OR DEFECTS HEREINAFTER DESCRIBED, SHALL BE DEEMED TO BE A DANGEROUS BUILDING AND A HAZARD TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE.

PROVIDED THAT SUCH CONDITIONS OR DEFECTS, DILAPIDATIONS, SUB CENTERNESS OR OR FITNESS FOR HUMAN HABITATION POSE A THREAT OR POTENTIAL THREAT TO LIFE, HEALTH, PROPERTY AND HUMAN SAFETY STAFF RECOMMENDS DEMOLITION WITH THE PROPERTY TO REMAIN VACANT, SECURED, AND ALL UTILITIES REMAIN DISCONNECTED.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION FOR 1252 LAUER.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE OFFICER? YES, MA'AM.

OKAY.

THE ONLY PERMITS THAT YOU DISCUSSED SO FAR HAS BEEN FEBRUARY.

WAS THERE ANYTHING AFTER FEBRUARY? NO.

YOU'RE BOARD, THERE WAS NO PERMITS.

MS. SUAREZ DID COME INTO THE BUILDING TO SPEAK WITH THE PERMIT DEPARTMENT AND AFTER I SPOKE WITH THE REPRESENTATIVE, THEY STATED THAT SHE HAD LEFT.

UH, WE DID PLACE A HOLD BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT WAS BEING CONDUCTED OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THE PERMIT ON FILE, WHICH THAT HOLD WAS JUST TO HAVE THE OWNERS COME INTO THE BUILDING TO SPEAK WITH THE PERMITS TO GO AHEAD AND GET THAT WHAT PERMITS ARE NEEDED FOR THE PROPERTY.

DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON WHEN THE FIRE OCCURRED? THE FIRE OCCURRED? LET ME GIMME ONE MINUTE.

LET ME PULL THAT UP REAL QUICK.

I BELIEVE THE FIRE HAD STARTED.

SO FIVE

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INFORMATION, I'M JUST REVIEWING MY NOTES REALLY QUICK.

BOARD JANUARY 29TH, 2022 IS WHEN THE STRUCTURE OF SUSTAINED FIRE DAMAGE.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL.

I GUESS I HAVE A, A QUESTION IF I'M READING THIS STUFF CORRECTLY.

UM, SO BEFORE THIS CASE CAME TO B S B, IT WAS A DART CASE, BUT PEOPLE, THEY WERE DOING WORK ON THE PROPERTY.

SO WHY DIDN'T YOU, UH, DO A STOP WORK ORDER? WE, UH, THE OWNER DID PULL PERMITS AND WE ALLOWED THE OWNER TO DO THE WORK THAT THE PERMITS WERE ALLOWING HIM TO DO, WHICH THOSE PERMITS ARE, THEY DO ALLOW THE OWNER SIX MONTHS TO MAKE THOSE REPAIRS.

SO WE ALLOWED, WE LEFT THE, WE LET THE OWNER CONDUCT HIS WORK FOR SIX MONTHS TO MAKE SURE HE DOES THE WORK AS WELL AS PULLING PERMITS, ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL PERMITS THAT IS NEEDED FOR THE PROPERTY.

ONCE THOSE SIX MONTHS EXPIRED, THAT'S WHEN WE WENT BACK OUT THERE TO DO ANOTHER REASSESS AND SEE WHAT WORK HAS BEEN DONE AND COMPLETED.

'CAUSE WE, WE WERE UNIN HE UNINFORMED US OF, OF WHAT WAS COMPLETED OR WHERE HE STANDS ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL.

I'M SORRY, I GUESS I'M CONFUSED.

WHY, WHY DID YOU ALLOW HIM TO WORK ON THIS PROPERTY? IF, IF IT WAS A DARK CASE AND IT WAS COMING TOWARDS, IS THAT SOMEONE'S PHONE? IT'S MY PHONE, MA'AM.

I'M TRYING, CAN YOU DOCUMENT THAT? SHOWS THAT WE WHAT PERCENTAGE? CAN YOU TURN YOUR PHONE OFF PLEASE? WELL, I TRIED, SAID HE'S GONNA HELP ME OUT.

I THOUGHT IT WAS OFF.

OKAY, MS. CHAIR, THIS IS, THIS IS LEGAL.

I DON'T HAVE A PHONE ALL THE TIME.

THIS IS LEGAL MS. CHAIR, THIS IS LEGAL.

UM, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, UM, FOR THE, THE, THE QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THE DART UNIT, UM, NOT ALL PROPERTIES COME IMMEDIATELY TO B S B DEPENDING ON THE SITUATION AND THE CIRCUMSTANCE.

UM, THE DART UNIT DOES TRY TO WORK WITH PROPERTY OWNERS.

UM, PLEASE, PLEASE, I'M, I, I APOLOGIZE.

I'M BEING, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HERE UNDERSTANDS THAT WE ARE BEING STREAMED AND WHAT WE ARE ALSO GOING TO DO IS BE RESPECTFUL AND ALLOW EACH OTHER TO SPEAK AND GIVE THEIR CHANCE.

SO AS I, I MEAN, SO AS I WAS SAYING, MS CHAIR, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IN REGARDS TO, UM, DART PROPERTIES, NOT ALL PROPERTIES COME IMMEDIATELY HERE.

WE DO TRY TO WORK WITH THE OWNERS DEPENDING ON THE SITUATION, DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCE TO SEE IF, UH, WE CAN GET COMPLIANCE AND, AND WORK WITH THEM AS, AS I'M LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY FOR WHAT WAS DONE.

I, I, I DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

I MEAN, BECAUSE IT, THE WORK WASN'T DONE.

I MEAN, THE WORK WASN'T, IT WASN'T COMPLETED, IT WAS TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE.

I, I JUST, UM, YES.

BOARD A AS FROM MY PHOTOS AFTER OCTO, UH, AUGUST 17TH WHEN WE VERIFIED THAT, I DID IMMEDIATELY SUBMIT THE FOLDER TO BRING TO THE BOARD AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

I ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT WE DID HAVE ON FILE, WE HAVE A REPORT THAT STATES THAT THE ROOF SYSTEM, I KNOW MS. JUAREZ WAS DISCUSSING THAT A MINUTE AGO, THAT THERE WAS 25% ROOF DAMAGE AS WELL AS 10% WALL DAMAGE FROM THE FIRE THAT WAS ASSESSED BY A FIRE INSPECTOR.

OKAY.

UH, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE, SIR? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE BOARD? NO.

OKAY.

SO THANK YOU.

WHO IS, OKAY, OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS, UM, I'M SORRY, IS IT THERO? THERO.

.

ERICA'S, HOW ARE YOU? OKAY.

SORRY.

YOU'RE THE, ARE YOU THE, UM, SS A P D? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

GO AHEAD.

YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR LOCATION FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

FOR THE RECORD.

YES.

IT'S ERICA TERRIO.

I'VE BEEN WITH, UH, SAN ANTONIO POLICE FOR ABOUT 11 YEARS NOW, AND WITH SAFE FOR FIVE YEARS.

AND THE LOCATION IN QUESTION, THERE HAS BEEN OVER 80 CALLS IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, AND THE CALLS RANGE FROM SHOTS FIRED, WANTED PERSON, BURGLARIES, RECOVER, STOLEN PROPERTY, FAMILY VIOLENCE.

THERE'S SERVANTS INVOLVING A KNIFE, A FIREARM RECORD CALLS INVOLVING NARCOTICS AND MULTIPLE CALLS FOR THE SERVANTS.

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I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE, I I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE, UH, FOOTAGE TO SHOW.

GO.

I'M GONNA CALL THE CITY THE MORTGAGE COMPANY WITH ON A DAILY BASIS.

SIR, I APPRECIATE YOUR, HOW MANY CAN'T EVERY SINGLE DETAIL? HE'S JUST SAYING AND LYING FOR MY WIFE.

HE DOESN'T KNOW YET.

OH, I APOLOGIZE.

FIND OUT MY DAUGHTER'S GONNA BE, I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

I APOLOGIZE THEN.

YOU KNOW? RIGHT.

I DO WANNA MAKE SURE I I I MIGHT HAVE, I'M, I'M WRONG.

MAYBE YOU DIDN'T GO.

IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT THE, IT'S NOT THE HOUSE'S FAULT AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, MA'AM, I, I, OKAY.

STOP.

DAUGHTER.

I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND.

I THOUGHT YOU MADE THE, I THOUGHT YOU HAD MADE THE STATEMENT THAT PEOPLE ARE STILL IN THERE.

IF THEY ARE, THEY ARE.

I'M IF THEY ARE, I'M TELLING YOU, THE CITY IS GOING TO REMOVE THEM BECAUSE THE BOARD ORDER WAS TO REPAIR IT 90 DAYS, THREE MONTHS AGO.

THOSE PERSONS HAVE TO BE OUT.

WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THOSE.

I CAN'T WORK WITH ORDERS.

PASS UP.

MY ASS HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL I HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THOSE COURT ORDERS EXPIRE.

DON'T MA'AM.

DISRESPECTFUL.

WHY SHE, WHY FATHER'S A JUDGE? SHE, SHE'S NOT EVEN SPEAKING.

SHE'S SPEAKING WITH HER EYES.

DON AT HER, HER LOOK AT ME AND INSTEAD I'LL TALK TO YOU WITH MY EYES.

SEE HOW SHE'S TALKING TO HER.

THAT'S VERY DIFFICULT.

SHE'S MEDICATED.

WE'RE ON THE DOCTOR'S.

UH, WELL, WE'RE HOT AND SUN OUT HERE.

SURE.

SHE KNOWS WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

SHE'S, SHE'S EVIL AND WICKED.

SHE HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT MAN, THAT INSIDE THAT'S WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND SOMETHING.

EVERYBODY HERE IS JUST TRYING.

OKAY, LET ME, ALLOW ME TO FINISH.

TURN ME THE PAPER.

FELIX, ALLOW ME TO FINISH.

I'M JUST TRYING.

I'M NOT, I'M NOT BEING DISRESPECTFUL.

I, I WANT MAKE SURE YOU DOESN'T UNDERSTAND.

NO ONE'S TRYING TO BE DISRESPECTFUL.

BUT THE PROBLEM IS, IS EVERYBODY HERE IS JUST TRYING TO DO THEIR JOB.

I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE UPSET.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A, A STRESSFUL TIME, BUT STOP ATTACKING YOU IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHY I'M UPSET.

BUT LET HIM TALK.

STOP TALKING.

LET HIM TALK.

BUT I ATTACK ATTACKING SOMEBODY PERSONALLY.

IT'S NOT CALLED FOR AND IT'S NOT NECESSARY.

I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION YOU HAVE.

I HAVEN'T BEEN IN YOUR SITUATION.

DON'T SEND.

SO I'M NOT GONNA OPPORTUNITY TO BE.

BUT THERE'S NO REASON FOR YOU TO ATTACK ANYBODY.

WE HAVE THE RIGHTS SPEAK.

EXACTLY YOUR RIGHT SIR.

RIGHT.

BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN SPEAK A FEDERAL RIGHT, SIR.

HOPEFULLY WE CAN SPEAK TO EACH OTHER.

I, FEDS ARE COMING IN.

SIR, HOPEFULLY WE CAN SPEAK TO EACH OTHER RESPECTFULLY.

I'M NOT TRYING TO TELL YOU TO STOP TALKING.

WHAT I AM ASKING YOU TO DO IS LET'S BE RESPECTFUL WHEN WE'RE TALKING TO EACH OTHER.

ALRIGHT? YEAH.

WELL LET'S, SO I'VE BEEN ASSIGNED TO THAT AREA FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS AND EVERY TIME CODE ENFORCEMENT OR ANY ANYBODY GOES OUT THERE, WE GO OUT THERE TO ASSIST.

AND THIS IS A TYPICAL INTERACTION WITH THE OWNERS.

UM, THERE'S BEEN SITUATIONS WHERE WE HAVE TO GET IN BETWEEN THE OWNERS OR CODE ENFORCEMENT OR WE HAVE BEEN BLOCKED THE ENTRANCE BY MRS. JOYCE SUAREZ.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

VERY INFORMATIVE.

YES SIR.

GO AHEAD.

QUESTIONS.

EXCUSE ME.

WAS THE FILM ACTUALLY, UH, IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY AT 1252 GLOVER OR WAS IT A DIFFERENT ADDRESS? THAT'S THE ADDRESS.

1252.

THANK YOU.

YES, MR. ZUNIGA.

YES.

UH, IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT, THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO WITH, BUT AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AT THAT POINT, WE'RE JUST THERE TO TRY TO KEEP THE PEACE, LIKE I STATED, OFF THE TOP OF MY MIND, I'VE BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT, ABOUT FIVE TIMES AND EVERY INTERACTION'S THE SAME.

SO BASICALLY WE'RE JUST THERE.

UH, AND WE EXPLAIN TO THEM, WE TRY TO TAKE OUR TIME TO EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT THEY'RE HERE TO DO A JOB.

AND IT'S ALWAYS, IT'S, IT'S A DIFFICULT, DIFFICULT TIME DEALING WITH THEM.

THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO, BASICALLY.

JUST KEEP THE PEACE.

YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING.

NO.

THAT'S THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE OFFICE.

THAT'S CORRECT.

AT THAT POINT, THEY'RE JUST, THANK YOU.

YES.

THAT'S ALL I NEED.

OF COURSE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE OFFICER? NO.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR COMING IN.

ALRIGHT.

BOARD, I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY ON THE, THE FOOTAGE, THE, THE HOUSE THAT WAS SEEN, THE HOUSE THAT WAS SEEN IN THE BACK OF THAT FOOTAGE IS THE PROPERTY THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO THE BOARD, WHICH IS ALSO OWNED BY THE SAME OWNERS IS 1246 PLOWER.

THAT'S WHAT WAS ALSO BEING DISCUSSED REGARDING THE BOARD ORDERS.

'CAUSE WE DO HAVE AN ORDER FOR THAT PROPERTY.

HEY,

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OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS FELIX JUAREZ, YOUR HONORS.

HOW ARE WE DOING TODAY? OKAY.

CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? FELIX ROBERT SUAREZ 1 0 7 HARWOOD.

UH, YES.

WE ARE ON THE TAPE FIGHTING FOR OUR RIGHTS, FIGHTING FOR OUR HOUSES.

UH, YES.

UH, SS A P D HAD BEEN CALLED OUT THERE QUITE A FEW TIMES.

MY WIFE AND I WERE THE ONES THAT CALLED 95% OF THE TIMES BECAUSE WE HAD HOMELESS PEOPLE.

WE STILL HAD SOME LATELY, WHICH IS NOT OUR PROBLEM.

IT'S THE CITY'S PROBLEM.

UH, UH, S A P D WOULD COME OVER.

I HAD THREE FAMILIES LIVING IN THE BACKYARD, IN, IN A TENT.

THEY WOULDN'T DO NOTHING.

I CUT THE TENT DOWN.

THEY SAID IT WAS CIVIL MATTER AND IT MUST HAVE BEEN 30 PEOPLE IN THERE.

AND NOT ONLY THAT HOUSE, BUT THE HOUSE BEHIND WHERE IT'S ABANDONED AND IT'S AN UNCONTROLLABLE SITUATION.

THE FIRE STARTED JANUARY 29TH, A TENANT THAT HAD BEEN THERE WITH, UH, SAHA FOR 12 YEARS.

UH, AND IT CAUGHT ON FIRE DUE TO THE FACT THAT SHE BROUGHT LAWNMOWERS, WEEDED EATERS, CHAINSAWS, AND DID NOT TAKE THE GAS OUT.

WAS NOT MY FAULT.

THE FIRE STARTED.

IT WAS NOT THE HOUSE'S FAULT THAT THE, THAT, THAT THE FIRE STARTED.

UH, WE'RE NOT GUILTY OF ANYTHING.

I AM GUILTY OF GETTING OLD, GETTING CRANKY, HIDING, MEDICATED.

I HAVE, UM, HEART PROBLEMS, UH, ARTHRITIS, DIABETES, YOU NAME IT.

THAT'S NOT MY FAULT.

AGAIN, UH, WE HAVE FOUGHT FOR THESE OLD PROPERTIES.

ONE OF THOSE OLD PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN IN MY FAMILY FOR 95 YEARS.

UH, THE ONE ON 1252.

IT'S WHERE THE FIRE WAS THE ONE AT 1246, WHICH I WENT TO COURT AGAIN ON MONDAY.

AND LUCKILY I RAN INTO A VERY HUMBLE JUDGE, WHICH GAVE ME ANOTHER 90 DAYS TO FIX IT DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE TENANTS THAT YOU GUYS POSTED A CITATION TO GET OUT DIDN'T GET OUT INTERFERED DAILY.

MR. CHAIR, THIS IS LEGAL.

I'M GONNA URGE THAT WE FOCUS ON 1252 CLOWER AND NOT ANY OTHER PROPERTY THAT, UH, THAT IS NOT BEFORE THIS BOARD.

I WOULD AGREE, MA'AM, YOU HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND TELL YOU A CALL.

MA'AM, SHE CAN'T HEAR TOO GOOD.

SHE CAN'T HEAR AT ALL.

OKAY.

YOU'LL HAVE TO BE SEATED.

OFFICERS, YOU'LL HAVE TO BE SEATED DOWN UNTIL YOU'RE CALLED SIT DOWN.

OKAY.

SHE'S ALSO HIGHLY MEDICATED.

WE'RE BOTH HIGHLY MEDICATED, SIR.

WE WANT, WE JUST, SHE HAS A OFFICE.

SIR, WE ARE JUST INTERESTED IN 1252 FLOWER.

AND WE JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT YOU, WHAT ARE YOUR INTENTS? WELL, MY INTENT WAS, UH, I HAVE SOLD IT TO MY DAUGHTER AND HER HUSBAND, AND THEY'RE ON FEDERAL DISABILITY.

THEY HAVE THREE CHILDREN ARE ALSO ON DISABILITY.

AND, UH, WITH MY HELP AND THEIR HELP, WE TEND TO FIX IT UP.

I HAVE AN ENGINEER'S LETTER THAT'S ALREADY BEEN, HE'S TAKEN ALREADY CONTROL OF THE HOUSE.

GONNA PROBABLY REDESIGN IT.

AND, UH, UH, I WANT MY DISABLED GRANDKIDS TO LIVE THERE.

UH, I WANT THEM TO GIVE ME MY WHOLE BEDROOM SO I CAN DIE.

MY OWN BEDROOM.

THAT'S ALL I WANT.

I THINK I GOT THE RIGHTS TO DIE WHERE I WANT TO DIE, DIE AT.

AND, UH, I'VE JUST, WE'RE JUST NEED OF TIME.

THAT'S ALL.

UH, THERE IS, WE DID GET PERMITS AND I TOOK YOUR ADVICE, MA'AM, TO HIRE CITY LICENSED CONTRACTOR, AND HE BURNED ME, UH, JESSE PAAS 8 8 1 A ONE METRO ELECTRICAL.

THE HELPERS THAT WERE DOING THE ELECTRICAL WORK, WERE LAUGHING AT ME BECAUSE MR. PAAS TOOK MY MONEY AND WENT TO VEGAS AND LOST IT IN 10 MINUTES.

HE NEVER GOT A PERMIT.

AND WE TALKED MR. CHAIR, THIS IS LEGAL AGAIN.

UM, TWO THINGS.

FIRST, UH, FROM MR. SUAREZ, SINCE HE'S NO LONGER THE OWNER, THE, THE EXPIRATION

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OF HIS THREE MINUTES IS DONE.

SECONDLY, LEGAL HAS A FEW QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THE CLAIMS THAT HE'S MAKING BECAUSE, UH, THE CONCERN IS HE'S STATING HE DOESN'T OWN THE PROPERTY, BUT HE'S MAKING CLAIMS THAT HE HAS THE PLAN TO FIX THE PROPERTY WHEN WE HAVEN'T REALLY HEARD FROM THE ACTUAL, UM, NEW OWNER.

SO THE, THE LEGAL WOULD LIKE TO ASK THIS, MR. MR. SUAREZ, WILL YOU BE IN CHARGE OF REPAIRING THIS PROPERTY? NO.

THE OR WOULD ENGINEER PLEASE ALLOW ME TO FINISH.

PLEASE ALLOW ME TO FINISH.

YES, SIR.

ARE YOU IN CONTROL OF THIS PROPERTY GETTING REPAIRED OR IS IT GOING TO BE THE NEW OWNERS? THE NEW OWNERS.

THANK YOU.

YOU'VE ALREADY MET 'EM.

SIR, YOU'VE MET FELICIA ALREADY AND YOU ADVISED HER TO TAKE OVER AND THAT'S WHAT SHE'S DOING.

AND I HAVE A ENGINEER'S LETTER FROM MOSES CRUZ, WHICH I THINK YOU, YOU MIGHT KNOW OF, TO REDESIGN AND HAVE THE STRUCTURE, UH, TO WHERE IT PASSES ALL CODES.

AND MY DISABLED CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN.

POINT OF MR. SUAREZ.

LET ME ALSO ASK YOU, MS. CHAIR, CAN YOU STATE THE OWNER'S NAME, YOUR DAUGHTER'S NAME? FELICIA IS JOHN.

UH, AND WOULD IT ALSO BE FAIR TO SAY FLORIDA? WOULD IT ALSO BE FAIR TO SAY, SIR, THAT SHE RECEIVED NOTICE OF THE, THE HEARING TODAY? I DON'T KNOW.

OKAY.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN THE, THE BOARD'S ATTENTION TO, UH, THE TITLE SEARCH AND THE NOTICE THAT WAS PROVIDED, UH, TO THE PERSONS OF INTEREST ON THIS PROPERTY.

I DO BELIEVE THERE WAS A, A FELICIA RAJAN.

RAJAN SUAREZ.

THAT WAS FLORES PROVIDED.

NOTICE FLORES ES FLORES NOTED.

THANK YOU SIR.

MA? MADAM CHAIR? YES.

UH, HAS AN ENGINEER REPORT BEEN GIVEN TO THE CITY ATTORNEY? I DON'T, I TRIED TO GIVE IT TO A WHILE AGO.

GIVE IT, GIVE IT TO THE LADY.

I HAVE NOT SEEN IT YET.

UH, QUESTION FOR THE COUNCIL.

UH, COUNCIL, IF THE NOTICE WAS GIVEN TO THE NEW OWNER, THE NEW OWNER IS NOT HERE, WHY ARE WE HEARING FROM THIS GENTLEMAN WHO DOESN'T OWN THE PROPERTY ANYMORE? UM, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE ALLOWED TO BE MADE.

UM, HE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AT A PUBLIC HEARING.

HE HAS THAT RIGHT? UM, IT LOOKS LIKE AT SOME POINT IN TIME HE DID HAVE AN INTEREST OR AN OWNERSHIP IN IT.

UM, SO WE'RE NOT GONNA DENY ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ABOUT A PROPERTY.

UM, BUT IN REGARDS TO WHO'S GOING TO BE IN CHARGE OF REPAIRING THE PROPERTY, THE FACT THAT, UM, MR. SWES HAS PROVIDED ME AN ENGINEER'S REPORT, I, I, IT'S, IT'S JUST AN ENGINEER'S REPORT.

I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THE OWNERS ARE, ARE, ARE GOING TO USE IT.

UM, I DON'T KNOW.

SO IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME JUST A FEW MINUTES, LEMME LOOK AT IT REAL QUICK.

AND, AND MR. SUAREZ, CAN YOU STATE, WHEN, WHEN DID YOU, UM, YOU SOLD THE PROPERTY TO YOUR DAUGHTER? ABOUT A TWO MONTHS AGO? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

AND I LIKE THE BOARD TO KNOW THAT I'M TACKLING TWO STRUCTURES AT ONE TIME.

1246.

I CAME HERE A FEW MONTHS AGO.

THEY GAVE ME 90 DAYS TO DO IT, BUT DUE TO THE FACT OF THE GUARD DOGS, THE 60 CATS, AND I'VE CALLED THE CITY ON THEM TO GET RID OF THESE ANIMALS AND THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

ONE OF THE DOGS, ONE OF THE DOGS HAS WRITTEN THREE PEOPLE A DIFFERENT, EVEN THE OWNER THAT WORKS THERE DOESN'T RESIDE THERE, BUT WORKS THERE.

BOARD.

I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND ALLOW YOU TO LOOK AT THE ENGINEER'S LETTER AGAIN.

I WANNA MAKE SURE WE ARE CLEAR ON SOMETHING.

HE DOESN'T OWN THE PROPERTY.

AND SO THIS REPORT, UM, IN REGARDS TO THIS ENGINEER'S REPORT, UM, IN ALL FAIRNESS, I WILL LET YOU LOOK AT IT, BUT PLEASE KNOW HE DOESN'T OWN THE PROPERTY.

SO AN ENGINEER'S REPORT THAT HE GOT ON HIS BEHALF, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S CONCERNING THE FACT THAT YOU CAN'T ASK THE, THE NEW OWNERS ANY INFORMATION ABOUT IT.

BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND LET YOU LOOK AT IT.

THIS IS ROBERT TAPI.

DOES YOUR DAUGHTER HAVE THAT REPORT? ENGINEER'S REPORT? UH, I DON'T THINK SO.

I I PAID FOR IT.

GRANDPA PAYS FOR EVERYTHING.

HAS SHE COME UP WITH ANY KIND OF PLAN? FINANCES? OH, THAT'S, THAT, THAT IS HER PLAN.

SHE WANTS TO GET SO FAR, YEAH, SHE WANTS TO GET HER THREE UNDERAGE CHILD THAT'S ON, THEY'RE ON DISABILITY.

THE, THE FATHER'S ON DISABILITY AND INTO THE HOUSE WANTS TO GIVE ME A ROOM.

NOT SO

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MUCH.

MY WIFE, .

GIVE ME A ROOM TO DIE IN MY OWN BEDROOM.

AND THAT'S ALL I WANT.

MADAM CHAIR, BOARD OF ORDER.

UH, THREE MINUTES ONLY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, SIR.

THANK YOU.

OH, YOU'RE WELCOME.

AND WE HAVE A JOYCE SUAREZ HERE TOO.

YOU ARE A FORMER, FORMER OWNER.

COME TO THE PODIUM AND, UH, SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

I'M JOYCE SUAREZ.

AND, UM, IT'S THE PO BOX.

OH YES, THE PO BOX.

WHAT DO YOU WANNA SAY ABOUT THE PROPERTY, MA'AM? WELL, THE WAY IT WAS HANDLED, I WAS REALLY UPSET, MS. CHAIR.

I'M SORRY.

THIS IS LEGAL AGAIN.

PO BOX IS NOT SUFFICIENT.

WE NEED AN ADDRESS.

50 50 51 SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 1.

WHAT WAS THE ADDRESS AGAIN? 52 51 SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 1.

52 51.

WHAT STREET, MA'AM? NO, THAT'S THE PO BOX.

NO, WE, WE DON'T ACCEPT PO BOXES.

OH, ALL RIGHT.

YOU NEED A PHYSICAL ADDRESS? YES, I LIVE AT ONE.

OH, VERY GOOD.

YOU, SIR.

YOU'VE HAD YOUR TIME TO .

YOU'VE HAD YOUR TIME TO TALK.

ARE YOU MIMI? WHAT? BY, ARE YOU MIMI? MIMI BY ANY CHANCE? MIMI? NO, I'M NOT MIMI.

OH, OKAY.

I DON'T KNOW YOUR NAME.

I DON'T KNOW ANY OF YOUR NAME, BUT I, I'M INTRODUCING MYSELF AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHO I'M SPEAKING TO BECAUSE I, I'M, I NEED YOUR ADDRESS BEFORE WE OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? 1 0 7 HARWOOD DRIVE.

OKAY.

AND THE ZIP? 7 8 2 0 1.

I MEAN 7 8 2 1 3.

I'M SORRY.

ALRIGHT.

NOW, DO YOU WANT TO, UM, SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE PROPERTY? YES, I WAS, I WAS VERY MORE MOSTLY HURT ABOUT WHAT WENT ON HERE BECAUSE OF TODAY.

I'VE, I DON'T KNOW IF ALL THESE PEOPLE WERE THERE, BUT NOBODY TOLD US WHAT, WHY THEY WERE THERE.

I WAS REALLY UPSETTING.

WE ASKED FOR PAPERWORK.

LIKE YOU HEARD, MY HUSBAND ASKED FOR PAPERWORK AND THEY DIDN'T GIVE US ANY PAPERWORK.

AND I ASKED THEM, WELL, WHERE IS IT? THEY SAID, WELL, IT'S OVER THERE AT THE DOOR.

I WENT TO THE DOOR AND WHAT OF ORDER? THE POLICE OFFICER PULLED ME BACK.

MA'AM, MA'AM, EXCUSE ME.

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE ADDRESS YOURSELF TO THE SUBJECT MATTER OF WHAT DO YOU PLAN TO DO ABOUT THE BUILDING ITSELF, PLEASE? OH, WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO IS, HE'S NOT DONE AND BE SPECIFIC PLEASE.

OKAY.

IS USE THE ENGINEER LETTER TO WHATEVER HE FEELS THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

I THINK IT WAS Y'ALL ARE REQUIRING THAT FOR, UH, FOUNDATION AND WHATEVER STRUCTURE.

I MEAN, ORIGINALLY IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE 25% OR 10% ACCORDING TO ONE OF YOUR INSPECTORS.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO FIND ON MY PHONE.

BUT IT'S DYING.

AND IT SHOWS THE INSPECTOR THAT CAME IN AFTER THE 7TH OF FEBRUARY.

THAT'S WHY I SAID THEY DIDN'T EVEN, THEY DIDN'T EVEN GIVE US T SEVEN DAYS TO WORK ON THE PLACE THEN WE COULDN'T SEE.

AND MADAMS HERE, WE'RE GOING ON TO THE REPAIRS OF IT.

AND THEY'RE NOT THE OWNERS.

YOU'RE NOT THE OWNER ANYMORE.

WE'RE NOT THE OWNERS, BUT WE'RE THE GRANDPARENTS AND WE HAVE GRANDCHILDREN.

MY DAUGHTER'S GRAND.

YOU GOT YOUR 30 MINUTES.

GO AHEAD.

OKAY.

I'M JUST, I'M JUST DEFENDING MY CHILDREN AND MY GRANDCHILDREN.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY I'M DOING THIS, BUT, OKAY, WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH MA'AM.

OKAY.

IT'S, AND I JUST WANTED Y'ALL TO KNOW THAT, THAT THE WAY, LIKE HE WAS SAYING ABOUT WE'VE PAINTED YES.

WE COULDN'T SEE.

OKAY.

SO WE HAD TO USE A SOME POINT OF, MA'AM, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT YOU ARE NOT THE OWNER, SO YOU CAN'T TELL US ANYTHING ABOUT THE PROPERTY.

OH, OKAY.

WELL THAT'S WHAT HE WAS ASKING ME FOR.

SO THAT'S WHAT I, BUT THEN OF THE PROCEDURES, I, THEY DIDN'T TELL ME WHAT THIS BOARD REPRESENTED.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR COMING IN, MA'AM.

YOU CAN HAVE SAME NOW.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UH, UH, THE MADAM CHAIR, UH, YES.

SAYS WE DON'T HAVE THE OWNERS HERE AND I THINK THE, I DON'T KNOW IF THE OWNERS WERE MAILED A LETTER OR ANY, ANY DOCUMENTS FROM HERE FOR THEM TO BE PRESENT.

UH, DO YOU, DO YOU WANNA MAKE A DECISION ON IT OR? I THINK WE SHOULD.

DO WE GO AHEAD AND RESCHEDULE IT? NO.

MS. MS. CHAIR AND BOARD, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE OWNERS AND FORMER OWNERS ALL WERE PROVIDED NOTICE OF TODAY.

I CAN CALL MY DAUGHTER AND SHE'LL TELL YOU SHE'LL NOT, SHE'LL BE SERVED.

NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO, UH, WE'RE NOT GONNA POSTPONE.

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THIS PROPERTY AHEAD.

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I DON'T KNOW.

NO, NO, NO.

THERE'S NOBODY ELSE ON THE LIST.

CO COUNSEL, I HAVE A QUESTION.

DOES, DOES ANYONE HAVE A YEAH.

YES, SIR.

MR. MR. GTA HAS A QUESTION FOR LEGAL.

I'M SORRY, MR. GUPTA.

WHAT? THERE CAN WE, CAN WE MAKE A MOTION WHICH SAYS THAT THE ACTUAL OWNER OF THE PROPERTY CAN PROVIDE US IN WRITING WITHIN THE NEXT 60 DAYS THERE, THEIR, THEIR COMPLETE PLANS FOR RETRIEVAL, UH, FOR REPAIR OF THE PROPERTY, OR ELSE THE PROPERTY WILL BE DEMOLISHED UNDER THE CODES? NO, WHAT THIS BOARD CAN DO IS RESET AND ASK FOR THOSE BIG THREE.

UM, BUT THE BOARD CANNOT STATE, IF YOU DON'T BRING ME THIS STUFF, THEN IT'S A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE THAT BOARD HAS TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.

UM, AND THAT DETERMINATION CAN'T BE BASED ON THE FACT THAT SOMEBODY DIDN'T SHOW BACK UP.

SO IF THIS BOARD RESETS THE CASE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO REHEAR IT.

NO.

IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

AND I HOPE I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION, MR. GUPTA.

OKAY, COUNSEL, WE, WE CAN, WITH THE INFORMATION WE HAVE HERE, UH, I THINK WE CAN MAKE A MOTION.

I, I CAN TELL YOU THIS BOARD CAN MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THE INFORMATION PROVIDED.

I DO WANNA MAKE SURE YOU ALSO UNDERSTAND MR. GUPTA IN THAT VIDEO THAT S A P D SHOWED, UM, THE, THE DAUGHTER OF MR. AND MS. SUAREZ WAS THERE.

SHE WAS PRESENT.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE PERSON THAT THAT WAS, UM, I WAS TRYING TO ADDRESS, UM, WHEN MS. SUAREZ DECIDED TO, UH, LASH OUT AT, AT ONE OF OUR CODE OFFICERS, MADAM CHAIR DWAY NELSON.

YES.

I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1252 CLOVER IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE, WHICH IS NOT FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED, UH, AT THIS TIME AND IS IN VIOLATION OF CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SUBSECTIONS 1, 5 6, SPECIFICALLY 2, 4, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18, THAT THE PROPERTY BE VACATED, THE PROPERTY BE SECURED, AND THE PROPERTY BE DEMOLISHED IN 30 DAYS.

SECOND.

AND WE HAVE A MOTION FOR 30.

MY APOLOGIES.

IT'S DANGEROUS PREMISE TO JOSH MARTINEZ.

I WAS ALSO ASKING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE UTILITIES REMAIN DISCONNECTED.

ADD TO MY MOTION, MR. MADAM CHAIR, THAT UTILITIES REMAIN DISCONNECTED.

OKAY, WE HAVE A 30 DAY MOTION FOR, UM, 1252 CL CLOVER, CLOVER CLOVER, AND, UM, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR, FOR VACATE AND, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE UTILITIES REMAIN DISCONNECTED.

AND ACCORDING TO ARTICLES, UH, I'M SORRY, CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, UH, 2 4 7 8 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18.

AND, UH, 30 DAY DEMO ORDER.

AND MADAM CHAIR, THE UH, MOTION ALSO INCLUDES SECURE THE STRUCTURE.

OH YEAH, I'M SORRY.

AND MR. ZUNIGA WOULD NEED TO SECOND MY AMENDED MOTION.

SECURE THE, AND ALSO SECURE THE, THE PROPERTY.

SECOND.

OKAY, MR. ZUNIGA.

SECOND.

SECOND.

OKAY.

COULD WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? DWAYNE NELSON.

AYE.

JESSE ZUNIGA.

AYE.

ROBERT TAPIA.

AYE.

MS. BROWN? AYE.

CHERISE GUPTE AYE.

MOTION PASSES WITH THE VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO.

OKAY.

UH, MR. SORES, YOU CAN GET WITH THE OFFICER AND RELAY THE INFORMATION TO THE NEW OWNER.

WHERE DO I GET THE APPEAL FORM FROM? OKAY, OUR NEXT CASE IS 2 38 CORONADO.

GOOD MORNING BOARD.

GOOD MORNING FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS JOSHUA G BARAS, DANGEROUS PREMISES OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

THE STRUCTURE BEING PRESENTED TODAY IS LOCATED AT 2 38 CORONADO WITH A, WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR DEMOLITION IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX.

THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS N C B 7 5 1 1 BLOCK FIVE LOT 19 AND 20.

THE, UH, LOC IS LOCATED WITHIN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE.

THE OWNER

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ON RECORD IS MICHAEL ANTHONY GUERRERO, JR.

WITH A MAILING ADDRESS OF 91 0 7 BUDD SAN ANTONIO, UH, TEXAS.

ALL NOTICES OF HEARING WERE PROPERLY ISSUED AS REQUIRED.

THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS ARE PRES ARE PRESENT ON BEHALF OF THE OF, OF THE CASE.

MICHAEL GUERRERO.

HE'S THE FATHER OF MICHAEL GUERRERO, JR.

I HAVE MADE CONTACT WITH MICHAEL GUERRERO.

THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAS CONFIRMED ON AUGUST 30TH, 2022.

THE PROPERTY IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION.

THIS IS THE FOLLOWING, FOLLOWING TIMELINE OF EVENTS REGARDING THE THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS.

THE FIRST INSPECTION, INSPECTION INSPECTION REGARDING 2 38 CORONADO WAS CONDUCTED ON TEN FOUR TWENTY TWENTY ONE.

ORIGINAL NOTICE WAS ON 10 26 20 21 AND A CERTIFIED RECEIPT HAS NOT RETURNED ON 10 21.

2022.

THE NOTICE FOR THE B S B HEARING WAS POSTED AT 2 38 CORONADO ON 10 19 20 22.

THE NOTICE FOR B SS B HEARING WAS MAILED TO OWNER AND A CERTIFIED RECEIPT HAS YET TO RETURN.

ON 12 14 20 21 MET WITH OWNER MICHAEL GUERRERO, WHO PULLED A DEMOLITION PERMIT TO DEMOLISH THE STRUCTURE.

AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE, IN THE PHOTO RIGHT HERE, THE PERMIT HAS EXPIRED AS OF, UH, FEBRUARY 20, 23, 20 22.

THE OWNER HAD, UH, HAD, HAS CALLED THE OWNER SEVERAL TIMES AND LEFT VOICEMAILS FOR HIM TO CONTACT OFFICER, AND HE DID NOT CONTACT OFFICER UNTIL ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO ON 10 26 20 22.

SPOKE TO OWNER WHO SAID HE STARTED THE PROCESS OF GETTING ANOTHER PERMIT.

UH, WHEN I ASKED HIM ABOUT THE, THE, UH, WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE FIRST PERMIT, HE SAID, IF FINANCIAL ISSUES PLAYED IN, PLAYED INTO THE FACT WHY IT WASN'T, UH, DEMOLISHED, THE FOLLOWING, UH, PERMITS WERE NOTED ON FILE.

D E M D P P A P P 21 DASH 3 9 1 0 0 9 9 9 EXPIRED ON FEBRUARY 23RD, 2022.

AS OF 11 3 20 22, OWNER HAS STARTED THE PROCESS OF GETTING ANOTHER PERMIT.

THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE MASONRY WALLS.

UM, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE CRACKING, UH, OF THE WALLS, SOME STEP CRACKING AND SEPARATION FROM THE, THE DECK WALL DECKING.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE FRONT DOOR IS, THAT WALL IS BEING HELD UP.

ONE SIDE OF THE WALL IS BEING, UM, HELD UP BY A TWO BY FOUR.

UM, I DO WANNA MAKE NOTE THAT A CHIEF BUILDING INSPECTOR DID MAKE AN ASSESSMENT OF THE PROPERTY AND HE DEEMED IT NOT TO BE AN EMERGENCY.

JUST, UH, UM, JUST TO FOLLOW, UH, FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE B S B PROCESS.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S VERY, UH, THERE'S A HIGHLY, THERE'S A, UM, LONG SEPARATION FROM THE WALL DECKING.

NEXT PHOTO.

THIS IS THE RIGHT ELEVATION.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S MORE STEP CRACKING.

UM, HE USED, UH, SOME SORT OF, UH, HE USED SOME SORT OF, UM, UM, MORTAR TO, UH, TO COVER THE CRACKS.

AND UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE WALL IS STARTING TO BOW OUT.

AND YOU CAN SEE, UH, DETERIORATION TO THE FACIAL BOARDS ON TOP.

NEXT PHOTO, YOU CAN SEE CRACKING AT THE BOTTOM WHERE THE FOUNDATION IS.

UM, IT IS A POST IN BEAM FOUNDATION.

UH, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE RUSTED OUT, UM, STEEL PIPES DUE TO THE AGE OF THE, UH, THE, OF THE STEEL PIPES.

UM, AND ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, YOU CAN SEE A SIGNIFICANT CRACK RIGHT THERE WHERE IT WAS COVERED WITH, UM, WITH MORTAR.

NEXT PHOTO, AS YOU LOOK, THIS IS TOWARDS THE BACK RIGHT ELEVATION STILL, UM, THIS PORTION OF THE ROOF HAS COLLAPSED.

UM, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE MASONRY WALL, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE CINDER BLOCKS HAVE MOST, SOME OF 'EM HAVE COLLAPSED RIGHT THERE ABOVE THE DOOR.

UM, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE CRACKING, SOME OF THE SEPARATION.

UM, YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE ON THE, ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, THE EXTERIOR WALL IS MADE OF WOOD, WOOD, UH, DECKING.

AND IT IS DETERIORATED DUE TO NOT BEING WEATHERPROOFED.

NEXT PHOTO, A LITTLE CLOSER.

LOOK AT THE ROOF.

YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE ROOF.

THERE IS HOLES IN THE ROOF SYSTEM.

UM, YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BOW ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.

SOME OF THE RAPTORS ARE EXPOSED.

NEXT PHOTO.

THIS IS THE BACK OF THE STRUCTURE.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE, THE MASON RESIDING IS, UH, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT CRACK, UM, THROUGHOUT THE STRUCTURE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE THAT CRACK THAT THE, IT HAS A BROKEN, AND YOU CAN SEE THE INTERIOR OF THE STRUCTURE.

YOU CAN SEE TOWARDS THE, UH, RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE ELEVATION.

YOU CAN SEE MORE CRACKS THROUGHOUT THE WALL.

UM, THE DOOR IS, IS SECURED, UM, BUT YOU CAN, YOU HAVE TO OPEN IT.

IT'S KIND OF HARD TO OPEN, BUT IT IS, IT CAN BE OPEN.

AS YOU LOOK AT THE ROOF, THE GABLE POINT, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE, THE, THE, IT SHIFTED TOWARDS THE FRONT AND THE WALL'S BLOWING OUT TOWARDS, UH, THE BACK.

NEXT PHOTO, UH, THE LEFT ELEVATION, YOU CAN SEE MORE OF THE CRACK TOWARDS THE CORNER OF THE STRUCTURE.

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UM, NEXT PHOTO.

SO THIS IS GOING INSIDE THE STRUCTURE.

UM, THE FLOOR, THE, THE BACK END OF THE STRUCTURE, UM, IS A CONCRETE SLAB RIGHT THERE.

AS YOU GO TOWARDS THE END, THERE'S CRACKS IN THE FOUNDATION.

NEXT PHOTO, UM, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE FLOOR, UH, AS I WAS STEPPING ON THE FLOOR, SOME OF THE FLOOR WAS SPONGY.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE SHEET ROCK ON TOP WAS, UM, COMING.

UM, WAS DETACHING FROM THE, THE CEILING, CEILING JOISTS.

NEXT PHOTO, THIS IS TOWARDS THE FRONT.

YOU CAN SEE MORE OF THE, UH, DEBRIS.

UM, JUST WATER COMING IN THE WALL, DETERIORATION IN THE WALLS.

NEXT PHOTO.

UH, YOU CAN SEE THE HOLES IN THE ROOF SYSTEM, JUST THE SUNLIGHT COMING IN.

NEXT PHOTO, THIS IS WHERE THE, UH, THAT WALL WHERE THE ROOF PARTIALLY COLLAPSED.

YOU CAN SEE THE, THE SUNLIGHT COMING IN.

UM, AND THE RAFTERS.

UH, AND WHICH, WHICH IS CAUSING THE, THE, UH, EXTERIOR ELEMENTS TO COME INTO THE STRUCTURE.

NEXT PHOTO.

THIS IS ONE OF THE CRACKS IN THE FOUNDATION AND THE BACK OF THE STRUCTURE.

NEXT PHOTO.

THIS IS THE BACK WALL.

THIS IS THE FRONT WALL WHERE, WHERE, UH, WHERE HE HAD THAT TWO BY FOUR, WHERE IT IS SEPARATING IT IS A PRETTY, PRETTY SIGNIFICANT SEPARATION.

NEXT PHOTO, 2 38.

UH, CORONADO IS A SINGLE STORY STRUCTURE FILLED IN 1949.

THE GABLE ROOF SYSTEM IS WORN, DAMAGE AND SAGGING.

THE EXTERIOR WALLS ARE COMPOSED OF MASONRY, THAT IS CRACKING, SHOWING SIGNS OF DETERIORATION AND SEPARATION TO THE WALL IS BEING HELD UP BY A TWO BY FOUR.

THE INTERIOR OF THE, THE BUILDING IS, IS DETERIORATING TO WHERE THE SILK FLOOR IS UNEVEN OR MISSING.

INTERIOR WALL IS CRACKED AND THE ROOF HAS PARTIALLY COLLAPSED.

THE INTERIOR WALLS ARE WATER DAMAGE DUE TO THE HOLES IN THE ROOF SYSTEM.

TO RECAP THE STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 2 38 CORONADO IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 56.

SUBSECTIONS 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18, IN WHICH ANY BUILDING OR STRUCTURE, WHICH HAS ANY OR ALL OF THE CONDITIONS OR DEFECTS HEREAFTER DESCRIBED, SHALL BE DEEMED TO BE A DANGEROUS BUILDING IN A HAZARD TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE, PRO WELFARE, PROVIDED THAT SUCH CONDITIONS OF DEFECTS OF DILAPIDATION, SUBSTANDARDS, OR UNFITNESS FOR HUMAN HABITATION POSE A THREAT OR POTENTIAL THREAT TO LIFE, HEALTH, PROPERTY, OR HUMAN SAFETY STAFF RECOMMENDS DEMOLITION.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION OF 2 38 CORONADO TAPIA QUESTION.

UH, I THINK YOU MENTIONED FOUR FOUR, NO CORRECTION.

UH, DEFINITION FOUR.

OH YEAH.

YES.

THAT WAS ADDED IN.

I ACCIDENTALLY ADDED THAT.

FOUR IS NOT IN THE DEFINITIONS.

IT'S NOT, NO, NOT, NO.

OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE OFFICER? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE HAVE ONE PERSON HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE.

MICHAEL GUERRERO.

IS IT GUERRERO? YES, SIR.

HEY, COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

UH, MY NAME'S MICHAEL GUERRERO.

S UM, I'M THE FATHER OF THE OWNER, MICHAEL GUERRERO, JR.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, I'M NOT GONNA TAKE TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME RIGHT NOW.

I'M ON THE PROCESS.

I ALREADY SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION FOR DEMO TO, UH, JOEL VELA.

AND, UH, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS HERE, AND WITHIN TWO, THREE WEEKS THE HOUSE WILL, THE STRUCTURE WILL BE DAMAGED, NOT THE FOUNDATION.

IT'S A CEMENT FOUNDATION.

IT'S NOT A POST FOUNDATION.

SO, UH, SO WHAT ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DEMOLISH IT YOURSELF? YES, MA'AM.

WE ARE, ME AND MY SON AND MY OTHER KIDS, YES.

OKAY.

AND YOU, YOU HAVE ALREADY PULLED THE PERMIT? YES, IT'S IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW.

UH, JOEL VELA? NO.

HAVE YOU, AL DO YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR HAND? NO, NO, NO.

I, I I DO NOT.

I, IT'S, I SUBMITTED IT ONLINE.

I SUBMITTED IT ONLINE.

YOU SUBMITTED WHAT? ONLINE? THE APPLICATION.

OH, THE REQUEST? YES.

OR THE APPLICATION FOR DEMO.

APPLICATION.

OKAY.

YES.

AND LET ME ASK MR. BARIS A QUESTION.

I'M SORRY.

HOW LONG? NO, GO AHEAD.

HOW LONG DOES THAT TAKE? UH, IT JUST DEPENDS FROM, UM, OH, SORRY.

JOSHUA BARENT, UH, DANGEROUS PREMISE OFFICER 1901 SOUTH ALAMO.

UM, WHEN A PERMANENT APPLICATION IS TURNED IN, UM, IT USUALLY, IT, IT JUST VARIES.

UM, IT GOES THROUGH DIFFERENT PROCESSES, THROUGH DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

UH, OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAS TO MAKE THEIR FINDING ON IT.

UM, T P S HAS TO MAKE THEIR FINDING ON IT.

IT JUST GOES THROUGH DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

IT COULD TAKE, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TELL YOU THE TIMELINE RIGHT NOW, UM, BUT IT COULD TAKE A LITTLE BIT.

BUT, UM, JUST TO CLARIFY, HE DID HAVE A PERMIT BEFORE AND IT EXPIRED IN FEBRUARY OF THIS

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YEAR.

UM, AND THEN HE'S APPLYING FOR ANOTHER PERMIT TO, UH, TO, TO, TO DEMOLISH IT, SO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

.

SO, UH, LEGAL, CAN I, JUST TO NOTE, UH, THE GAS AND ELECTRIC HAS BEEN DISCONNECTED ALREADY AND, UM, IT'S READY TO GO AND ALL THAT PROCESS IS DONE ALREADY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU SIR.

MM-HMM.

LEGAL.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

IT'S GOOD.

GO AHEAD.

OH, I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, BEING THAT HE, THIS IS THE SECOND PERMIT THAT HE HAS APPLIED FOR AND THE FIRST ONE EXPIRED, CAN WE GO AHEAD AND WRITE THE ORDER FOR OUR DEPARTMENT TO, TO DO THE, UM, RIGHT.

OUR CONTRACT TO DO THE DEMOLITION? YES.

UM, THE, THE, THE ACTIONS THAT HE'S TAKEN DOESN'T PREVENT THIS BOARD FROM DOING IT.

IT SOUNDS LIKE HE'S PROBABLY IN AGREEMENT WITH, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

SO THIS BOARD, GIVEN THE ORDER, JUST GIVES THE CITY, UM, REASSURANCE THAT IF BY SOME REASON SOMETHING HAPPENS AND, AND MR. MR. GUERRERO CAN'T TAKE CARE OF IT, THEN THE, THE CITY HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DO IT.

SO IT SHOULDN'T BE A, AN ISSUE IF, IF THAT'S WHAT THIS BOARD BELIEVES SHOULD BE.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

DO WE HAVE A, UM, MOTION? ROBERT TAPIA? YOU READY? UM, OKAY.

THIS IS FOR THE, UH, DEMOLITION OF A MAIN STRUCTURE.

I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY AT 2 3 8 CORONADO AVENUE, SAN ANTONIO, 7 8 2 3 7 IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE AS DEFINED BY ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX DASH 15 SIX WITH SUBSECTIONS 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18.

AND THAT THE PROPERTY'S NOT FEASIBLE, UH, OF BEING REPAIRED AND ORDERED THAT THE PROPERTY, PROPERTY BE, UH, DEMOLISHED WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THIS HEARING.

SECOND.

OKAY, WE HAVE A SECOND BY MR. ZUNIGA.

SO WE HAVE A 30 DAY DEMO ORDER, UH, ACCORDING TO CHAPTER, I'M SORRY, ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX, AND SUBSECTIONS 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18, UH, 30 DAY DEMO.

OKAY.

COULD WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? DWAYNE NELSON.

AYE.

JESSE ZUNIGA.

AYE.

ROBERT TAPIA.

AYE.

MS. BROWN? AYE.

CHERISE GUPTE AYE.

MOTION PASSES WITH THE VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR, FOR COMING IN.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

JUST GET WITH YOUR COAT OFFICER QUESTION.

CAN I JUST GET WITH YOUR COAT OFFICER? OKAY.

BECAUSE OF THE PERMIT, CAN I GET THE, GET WITH YOUR, OUR NEXT CASE IS, UH, 1 31 WARMAN COURT.

GOOD MORNING BOARD FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS CRYSTAL TOWN DANGEROUS PREMISE OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

THE STRUCTURE BEING PRESENTED TODAY IS LOCATED AT 1 31 WARMAN COURT WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR DEMOLITION IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WHEN 31 WARMAN COURT IS BEING PRESENTED BEFORE THE BOARD.

THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS N C B 7 6 4 0 BLOCK THREE, LOT 21, LOCATED IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE.

THE OWNER ON RECORD IS GRACE MINOR AND MICHAEL RODRIGUEZ WITH A MAILING ADDRESS OF 1 31 WARMING COURT, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 3.

THE OWNER IS NOT PRESENT TODAY.

DOES THE BOARD WISH TO CONTINUE? YES.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAS CONFIRMED ON JULY 1ST, 2022.

1 31 WARMAN COURT IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION.

THE FIRST INSPECTION REGARDING 1 31 WARMAN COURT WAS CONDUCTED ON AUGUST 3RD, 2021.

THE ORIGINAL NOTICE WAS MAILED ON AUGUST 30TH, 2021, AND THE CERTIFIED RECEIPT WAS NOT RETURNED ON OCTOBER 20TH, 2022.

THE NOTICE FOR THE B S B HEARING WAS POSTED AT 1 31 WARMAN COURT ON OCTOBER 19TH, 2022.

THE NOTICE FOR THE B S B HEARING WAS MAILED TO GRACE MINOR AND MICHAEL RODRIGUEZ AND THE CERTIFIED RECEIPT WAS RETURNED UNCLAIMED ON NOVEMBER 2ND, 2022.

A WARRANT WAS EXECUTED ON OCTOBER 4TH, 2022 TO OBTAIN PHOTOS TO BE PRESENTED TODAY, NO SCOPE OF WORK OR FINANCIAL PROOF OR LETTER OF CREDIT OR ENGINEER'S REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED.

NO PERMITS HAVE BEEN OBTAINED

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FOR THE PROPERTY.

THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION.

THE VINYL PLANK SIDING IS MISSING IN SOME AREAS AND DETACHING FROM THE STRUCTURE IN OTHER AREAS.

THERE ARE SOME BROKEN BOARDED UP WINDOWS AND THE ROOF COVERING OF THE GABLE ROOF SYSTEM IS WORN.

THIS IS THE RIGHT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE.

THERE ARE MULTIPLE CRACKS BY THE WINDOWS ON THE TOP AND BOTTOM OF EACH WINDOW IN THE CEMENT WALLS.

A CLOSER VIEW OF THE LARGE CRACKS IN THE CEMENT WALL.

THIS IS THE LEFT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE HERE.

UM, THE VINYL PLANK SIDING IS DETACHING FROM THE STRUCTURE IN SOME AREAS.

THE FASCIA BOARD IS, UH, LACKING WEATHER PROTECTION AND THE WINDOWS ARE BOARDED UP.

HERE IS ANOTHER ANGLE OF THAT SAME ELEVATION TOWARDS THE, UH, BOTTOM LEFT PHOTO.

YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE VINYL PLANK SIDING IS DETACHING FROM THE STRUCTURE AND THE FACIAL BOARD IS LACKING WEATHER PROTECTION.

THIS IS THE REAR ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE.

AGAIN, THERE ARE LARGE CRACKS, UM, AROUND THE WINDOWS AND THE WINDOWS ARE BOARDED UP AND THE SHINGLES OF THE GABLE SYSTEM ARE WORN.

THIS IS GOING INTO THE FRONT DOOR.

UM, THERE'S A LARGE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS.

UM, SHEET ROCK HAS COLLAPSED FROM THE CEILING.

THE DECKING DOES HAVE WATER DAMAGE AND THERE IS MOLD.

THIS IS ANOTHER ANGLE OF THE LIVING AREA, UM, SHOWING THE DEBRIS FROM THE CEILING COLLAPSED AND OTHER ITEMS PLACED IN THE LIVING ROOM AREA.

HERE IS A LARGE CRACK IN THE SLAB ON GRADE FOUNDATION.

THIS IS THE KITCHEN AREA.

UM, THE LARGE CRACK THAT WAS LOCATED IN THE LIVING ROOM RUNS ALL THE WAY INTO THE KITCHEN AREA AS WELL.

AND HERE'S JUST ANOTHER PHOTO SHOWING THE LARGE CRACK.

HERE'S ANOTHER ROOM.

UM, AGAIN, THE SHEET ROCK HAS COLLAPSED FROM THE CEILING, A LARGE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS, AND THERE ARE CRACKS IN THE WALL.

HERE YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS, UH, WATER DAMAGE ON THE SHEET ROCK AND IT IS ABOUT TO COLLAPSE.

THIS ROOM HAS A LARGE AMOUNT OF ITEMS I WAS UNABLE TO GET INSIDE.

UM, DURING THE INSPECTION, YOU COULD HEAR A LARGE ANIMAL MOVING, UM, UNSURE OF WHAT THAT LARGE ANIMAL WAS, BUT YOU COULD HEAR IT MOVING AROUND AND YOU COULD SMELL, UM, URINE IN HERE.

THERE IS A LARGE HOLE IN THE FLOOR AND THERE ARE HOLES IN THE SHEET ROCK.

THIS IS THE BATHROOM AREA, JUST MOLD GROWING ON THE WALLS.

1 31 WARMING COURT CONSISTS OF A VACANT SINGLE STORY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE WITH A SLAB ON GRADE FOUNDATION, VINYL PLANK SIDING PLACED OVER CEMENT WALLS AND GABLE ROOF SYSTEM.

THE FOUNDATION HAS LARGE CRACKS.

THE WALLS HAVE CRACKS THROUGHOUT THE EXTERIOR AND THE ROOF HAS A SAG AND THE SHINGLES ARE WORN.

TO RECAP, THE STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 1 31 WARMING COURT IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER 6, 1 56, SUBSECTIONS 1, 2, 8, 12, AND 15, WHICH ANY BUILDING OR STRUCTURE, WHICH HAS ANY OR ALL OF THE CONDITIONS OR DEFECTS HERE AND AFTER DESCRIBED, SHALL BE DEEMED TO BE A DANGEROUS BUILDING AND A HAZARD TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE.

PROVIDED THAT SUCH CONDITIONS OF DEFECTS OF DILAPIDATION, SUBSTANDARD, OR UNFITNESS FOR HUMAN HABITATION POSE A THREAT OR POTENTIAL THREAT TO LIFE, HEALTH, PROPERTY, OR HUMAN SAFETY STAFF RECOMMENDS DEMOLITION.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION OF 1 31 IN COURT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE OFFICER? NO.

OKAY.

NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? THERE'S NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THE PROPERTY.

MR. ROBERT? I MOVE MR. GUPTA.

GO AHEAD.

1 31.

MR. GUPTA, COULD YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE? YEAH, I MOVED AT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 31.

WARMAN CODE IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE, WHICH HAD, UH, AND AT THAT THIS TIME IT IS IN VIOLATION OF CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION 1 56 SPECIFIC CODES.

UH,

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1 29 22 1 2 8 12, UH OH, SORRY.

1 8, 2, 8, 12, AND 15 AMUD THAT THE PROPERTY BE DEMOLISHED WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS FROM THOSE OF THIS ORDER.

SECOND.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION OF A 30 DAY DEMO ACCORDING TO ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX, SUBSECTIONS 1, 2, 8, 12, AND 15.

AND WE HAVE A SECOND.

COULD WE GO TO ROLL CALL PLEASE? DWAYNE NELSON.

AYE.

JOIE ZUNIGA AYE.

ROBERT TAPIA.

AYE.

MS. BROWN? AYE.

CHERISE GUPTE AYE.

MOTION PASSES WITH THE VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THOSE ARE ALL OUR CASES.

IS THERE A STEP UPDATE ON, UH, 11? I'M SORRY, ONE 10.

MARY LOUISE? WE DO BELIEVE THERE IS, IF YOU'LL GIVE US JUST A SEC, UM, I, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE FIRE QUESTION THAT, UH, CHAIR BROWN HAVE.

I HAVE ASKED JUDY TO, UM, LET'S MAKE PLANS TO HAVE A FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE TO COME SPEAK TO US AT A NEXT FULL BOARD MEETING.

UM, SO WE WILL HAVE THEM AND IF THERE'S SOME INFORMATION, SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO ASK, AT LEAST LET ME KNOW SO WE, OR LET JUDY KNOW SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE AWARE OF WHAT WE, WHAT SPECIFICALLY WE WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO DISCUSS OR INFORM THE BOARD ABOUT.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IS, DO THEY SEND PAPERWORK TO US ON ALL THE FIRES OR DO WE NEED ALL OF 'EM? UH, ARE YOU, ARE YOU ASKING IF THIS BOARD GETS INFORMATION ON ALL FIRES THAT HAPPEN? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

WELL, THAT WOULD BE ONE.

I I I BELIEVE THAT, UH, UM, IF THERE IS AN EMERGENCY DEMO THAT INVOLVES A FIRE, YES.

IF THERE'S A PROPERTY THAT HAS ENOUGH FIRE DAMAGE THAT THERE MIGHT NEED TO BE A DEMOLITION, UM, MOST LIKELY THAT PROPERTY WILL COME IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD UNLESS THERE'S SOME HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT SIGNED.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I'M JUST SHOOTING OUT THERE THE QUESTION.

BUT YOU HANDLED IT THE WAY LEGALLY.

UM, AND THEN, UH, I'M TRYING TO THINK IF THERE'S ANY OTHER INFORMATION OTHER THAN THAT.

UM, I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THERE IS.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT AT ONE POINT IN TIME, UM, PART OF, UH, THERE WAS LIKE A SMALL LITTLE, UM, WOODEN ATTACHMENT TO MIDNIGHT RODEO THAT WAS POSSIBLY GONNA BE COMING BEFORE THIS BOARD.

BUT OF COURSE, UM, NONE OF THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.

YOU KNOW, I, THE NEWS LAST NIGHT SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THEY HAD HOMELESS PEOPLE IN THERE LIVING, SO IT WASN'T SECURED.

I CAN'T TELL YOU IF THERE WERE PERSONS LIVING IN THE PROPERTY.

I COULD TELL YOU THAT WHEN THE DART UNIT DID AN INSPECTION ON THE PROPERTY, IT WAS, IT WASN'T AS SECURED AS IT NEEDED TO BE.

USUALLY WHEN, UM, UH, THE STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE ON A, ON A DART, WHEN THE DART UNIT INSPECTS A PROPERTY, IF IT'S VACANT OR UNSECURED, WE DO HAVE CONTRACTORS THERE WITH US, UM, TO SECURE PROPERTY PROPERLY.

SO I COULD TELL YOU THAT PROPERTY WAS SECURED, UM, ON THE DAY THAT THE, THE, THE DART UNIT DID AN INSPECTION ON IT.

THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT ALL I CAN TELL YOU.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW SUBSEQUENTLY HOW THE FIRE WAS STARTED.

I, I, I WOULDN'T EVEN WANT TO PRETEND OR, OR, OR TO ASSUME, UM, HOW THE, HOW, HOW THE FIRE STARTED.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED TO GIVE, UH, LEGAL IN ORDER FOR THE, UM, RENT TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN? YOU KNOW, THE, THE WINTER MONTHS ARE COMING UP NOW AND IT'S GONNA BE MORE AND FIRES AND BECAUSE THE SPACE HEATERS AND BECAUSE OF, UM, THE LITTLE HEATERS THAT USED

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TO SET INTO THE WALL THAT USED FIRE, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE OUTLAWED NOW.

AND, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT.

I HATE TO SEE PEOPLE'S PROPERTY GO UP AND SMOKE BECAUSE OF A SPACE HEATER OR ACCORDING TO THE CURTAIN OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW.

AGREED.

AGREED.

BUT I, I WOULDN'T KNOW HOW TO YEAH, ME EITHER.

HOW TO ADDRESS THAT.

WELL, THEY DO HAVE HEATERS NOW THAT DON'T DO FIRE DIRECTLY, THAT IT JUST BLOWS WARM AIR.

AND THEY ALSO HAVE SOME HEATERS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY TIP OVER OR THEY'RE UNEVEN, THEY AUTOMATICALLY TURN OFF.

SO, UM, I'M, I'M JUST HOPING IT'S, IT'S NOT A SUPER COLD WINTER WHERE, UM, WE'RE HAVING TO WORRY MORE ABOUT, UM, SHELTER FOR OTHERS.

I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE BAD, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW THAT FOR, FOR SOME REASON, I CANNOT REMEMBER THE NAME THAT THEY CALL IT, WHERE WE HAD THE BIG FREEZE.

AND UM, I KNOW THERE'S A LITTLE S SLANG TERM FOR IT.

I KEEP FORGETTING WHAT IT WAS CALLED, BUT I, I REALLY HOPE WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

'CAUSE THAT WAS, THAT WAS PRETTY BAD.

WELL, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UH, DIFFERENT, LIKE DIFFERENT TV STATIONS AND HAVE THOSE FAN DRIVES IN THE SUMMERTIME.

MM-HMM.

, YOU KNOW, TO GIVE TO YES.

UH, SENIOR CITIZENS.

I WONDER COULD, COULD WE, YOU KNOW, DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO HELP PEOPLE OUT WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, LITTLE HEATERS THAT JUST DO HOT AIR, NOT FIRE? YEAH.

THAT WOULD BE PRETTY COOL.

UM, 'CAUSE I KNOW, I KNOW THAT THEY DO COATS AND BLANKETS, BUT BRINGING SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY PROVIDES SOME HEAT WOULD BE PRETTY COOL.

OKAY.

UH, COUNSEL, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT YOUR, UH, ENGINEER'S REPORT.

DO WE NOT, UH, DON'T WE NEED A, A PE STAMP NOTARIZED LETTERS? YES.

THE REASON I I, THE REASON I PROVIDED IT TO YOU GUYS, WHAT I DID NOT WANT TO DO IS MAKE IT SEEM LIKE WE WERE PREVENTING THEM FROM, UM, PRESENTING ANY EVIDENCE.

I, I SAW THAT IT DIDN'T HAVE A STAMP.

I ALSO SAW THAT THE NEW OWNER HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT AND HE ADMITTED IT.

SO, UH, WHAT I DID IS I, I I, I ALLOWED THIS BOARD TO LOOK AT IT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT, UM, YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING THIS LONG ENOUGH THAT IF THERE'S SOMETHING MISSING ON IT, YOU KNOW YOU'RE GONNA GIVE IT PROPER WEIGHT.

AND I KNEW, UM, WITH ALL OF YOU ON THIS BOARD, YOU'VE, YOU'VE SEEN ENOUGH INFORMATION WHERE I, UH, BASED ON HOW, UM, THEIR INTERACTION IN THE PAST WITH THE CITY, THE LAST THING I WANTED TO DO WAS MAKE IT SEEM LIKE WE ARE PREVENTING THEM FROM, FROM, UM, UM, OFFERING ANY TYPE OF EVIDENCE THAT THEY WANTED.

WELL, IN, IN REALITY, IT IS NOT AN ENGINEER'S REPORT, IT'S AN ENGINEER LETTER OFFERING ENGINEERING SERVICES BASED ON INDIVIDUAL COMPONENTS OF THE STRUCTURE.

THEREFORE, IT DID NOT TELL US ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE.

RIGHT.

IT JUST SAYS, I'LL GO LOOK AT IT AND THEN TELL YOU WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AT A LATER DATE, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.

NOT AN ENGINEER REPORT.

AND THAT'S WHY I LET YOU LOOK AT IT.

YOU, I MEAN, YOU, I I, I KNOW THAT THERE'S AT LEAST TWO OF YOU WITH THOSE TYPE OF, UM, UM, EXPERTISE, SPECIFIC EXPERTISE THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

IT WAS, IT WAS JUST, HEY, THIS IS HOW MUCH IT'D COST IF WE DID SOME STUFF.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH AN ENGINEER PUTTING HIS, HIS REPUTATION ON THE LINE SAYING THIS IS WHAT IT WAS.

EXACTLY.

YEAH.

SO THAT'S WHY I LET YOU LOOK AT IT.

THAT WAS FROM ONE OF OUR FORMER BOARD MEMBERS, MOSES CRUZ.

OKAY.

WELL, IF THAT'S ALL, OH, THAT'S .

OH, NO, WE HAVE, WE HAVE.

OKAY.

WE HAVE AN UPDATE ON, UH, WAS IT MARY LOUISE? YES.

OKAY, GO FOR IT.

GOOD MORNING BOARD FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS DALE RUSSELL, CODE ENFORCEMENT SUPERVISOR FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT TEAM.

AND WE ARE PROVIDING AN UPDATE FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT ONE 10, MARY LOUISE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS.

AND, UH, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY, HEAR HEARD ON AUGUST 18TH, UH, 2022.

AND THE, THE, UH, SECTIONS OF CODE THAT IT WAS IN VI WERE IN VIOLATION ARE 3 0 4 0.2 PROTECTIVE TREATMENT, 3 0 4 0.4 STRUCTURAL MEMBERS, 3 0 9 0.1 INFESTATION, 4 0 6, I'M SORRY, 3 0 4 0.6.

EXTERIOR WALLS, 3 0 5 0.3, INTERIOR SURFACES, 3 0 5 0.4 STAIRS, WALKING SURFACES 3 0 5 0.5 HANDRAILS AND GUARDS, UH, 6 0 4 0.3 ELECTRICAL SYSTEM HAZARDS.

AND THESE SECTIONS WERE GIVEN 90 DAYS TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE.

ALSO, WITHIN 30 DAYS, IT WAS ASKED THAT WE RECEIVE AN ENGINEER'S REPORT FOR THE REPAIRS.

THE PROPERTY IS MOVING FORWARD WITH ITS REPAIRS.

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WE DID RECEIVE THE ENGINEER'S REPORT WITHIN THE ALLOTTED TIME, AND THEY HAVE GENERAL CONTRACTORS THERE ASSESSING THE PROPERTY, AND THEY'RE READY TO START PULLING.

UH, THEY HAVE A PROJECT MANAGER MANAGING THE PROCESS AND THEY HAVE, UH, CON, UM, CONTRACTORS GETTING READY TO PULL PERMITS.

THEY WERE, AT THIS TIME JUST TAKING BIDS.

ALL OF THESE SECTIONS, UH, COME INTO, UH, SHOULD BE COMING INTO COMPLIANCE BY DECEMBER 7TH.

DECEMBER 7TH IS THE DEADLINE FOR THE ACTUAL REPAIRS.

HOW'S IT LOOKING? YEAH.

DO WE HAVE PICTURES? UH, WE DO NOT HAVE PICTURES.

UM, EVERYTHING IS OPEN AT THIS POINT.

UH, THEY HAVE ALL THEIR SOFFIT OPEN SO THAT THEY CAN GET THE BIDS FROM THE DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS.

NO WORK HAS ACTUALLY BEEN STARTED YET, SO IT REALLY LOOKS THE SAME.

UM, IT'S JUST THEY'RE GETTING EVALUATIONS AND THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE ENGINEER'S REPORT FOR THE REPAIRS.

PUSH .

YES, SIR.

UH, YOU KNOW, THEY, UH, THIS WAS, THIS WAS ONE OF THOSE APARTMENTS, WASN'T IT? YES, CORRECT.

THIS WAS THE, UH, ADULT, UH, ADULT, UH, LIVING PLACES THAT, UH, ASSISTED LIVING.

ASSISTED LIVING.

AND WE HAVE BEEN, UH, IN CONTACT WITH THEM.

UH, THEY, AND THIS, UM, THEY AND THEIR PROJECT MANAGER IS ON POINT GETTING US ALL THE INFORMATION WE'RE REQUESTING.

SO, UM, WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT ALL THE REPAIRS WILL BE MADE.

AND OF COURSE, IF THEY'RE NOT, WE WILL, WE'LL BE INFORMING YOU.

WELL TELL THEM, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA SEE ACTION, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA HEAR A LOT OF TALK.

WE WANNA SEE ACTION.

AND, UH, PLEASE BRING IN PICTURES.

AND NEXT TIME FOR YOUR REPORT, WE'D LIKE TO SEE AT LEAST, EVEN IF IT'S OPEN, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA SEE OKAY, WHAT KIND OF WORK THEY'RE DOING, WHAT KIND OF PROGRESS THEY'RE MAKING, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GONNA FINISH ON A, A SCHEDULED DATE.

OKAY.

WE CERTAINLY WILL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, MS. BROWN? YES.

DO YOU WANT TO WALK THROUGH WITH THE COURT OFFICER? WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M ALWAYS UP FOR NO, I, NO, NO, I'M, I'M SERIOUS ON IT.

YEAH.

H H D R C DOES IT.

EVERYBODY ELSE BINARY, DOES IT? NO, I THINK WE COULD, WE DO THAT IF WE WANT TO DO THAT.

NO, NO, NO, NO.

WHY LEGAL WOULD RATHER YOU NOT.

WHAT WE COULD DO, MAYBE, MAYBE WE CAN GET A GOPRO AND THEY CAN RECORD SOME STUFF.

BUT THE LAST THING I WOULD WANT THIS BOARD TO DO IS BE WALKING ON A PROPERTY THAT YEAH, WE'RE HOPING IS REPAIRED SUFFICIENTLY ENOUGH.

BUT YOU BRING UP, YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT.

I THINK THE PUBLIC, NOT JUST US, BUT THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO SEE A BEFORE AND AFTER THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, HEY, THERE'S A BRAND NEW PLACE BUILT READY TO, I, I HEAR YOU.

UM, AND MAYBE, MAYBE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ENCOURAGE THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE, TO PROVIDE SOME TYPE OF PRESENTATION THAT ALLOWS THIS BOARD TO NOT ONLY SEE THE ACTUAL REPAIRS, BUT ALSO SEE THE INTERIOR, BUT FOR THIS BOARD TO MAKE A FIELD TRIP.

YEAH, YEAH.

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

I, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I UNDERSTAND H H D R C MAKES, UH, MAKES THE LITTLE IMPROMPTU RIGHT.

UM, SCHEDULES AND THE PROPERTY.

YEAH, I HEAR YOU.

UM, I DON'T KNOW WHO THEIR ATTORNEY IS.

IT'S ACTUALLY OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD.

IT WOULD, THIS, THAT WOULD BE OUTSIDE YOUR SCOPE, SCOPE CONSIDERING IT.

BUT I, I, AGAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN TOUCH BASE WITH THE OWNERS AND IF THEY'D LIKE TO PROVIDE SOME VIDEO EVIDENCE, THAT'D BE GREAT.

UM, AND IN THE FUTURE, IF THIS BOARD WANTS TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THEY CAN INCORPORATE IN ANY OF THEIR ORDERS.

BUT FOR THIS BOARD TO TAKE A FIELD TRIP, I, I AGREE WITH, UM, UH, MEMBER MR. NELSON.

I DON'T WANNA OUTSIDE THE SCOPE.

I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO ENDANGER ANY OF YOU.

I LOVE YOU GUYS TOO MUCH.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THE OFFICER CAN TAKE PICTURES.

? YES, PLEASE TAKE PICTURES.

ALRIGHT, IF THERE'S NO OTHER, UH, NO OTHER REQUESTS AND NO OTHER, UH, RESPONSIBILITIES OR DUTIES OR WHATEVER, I GUESS WE ARE ADJOURNED.

I'M SORRY.

IT IS, WHAT TIME IS IT? 1144.

1144.

10 44.

10 44.

WE ARE NOW ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.