* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON FOLKS. WE'RE GONNA START SHORTLY, SO IF EVERYONE CAN PLEASE FIND THEIR SEATS. UM, COMMISSIONERS, WE ARE GONNA START SHORTLY. ALRIGHT, GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. UH, IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE OUR SPANISH INTERPRETATION SERVICES STATEMENT. GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU CHAIR. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UM, I CAN SEE SOME OF YOU'RE WEARING MASKS. THAT'S GREAT. WE ARE LOOKING TOWARDS A TRIPLE DIMMICK HERE, SO GET BOOSTED, GET VACCINATED, DO ALL THAT STUFF PLEASE. UH, MY NAME IS JOHN BUSTAMANTE AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT FIVE ZONING COMMISSIONER. I HEREBY CALL THIS [Work Session] REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION. TIME IS 1 0 1. FOR THE RECORD, I'D LIKE TO DO ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT. GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, MARCO BARROS, DISTRICT NINE, MARK WHITE, DISTRICT 10. HI, GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS, UH, SHARON KAMATH FROM DISTRICT FOUR, EAL ORTIZ, DISTRICT EIGHT, SUMMER GRADE HOUSE DISTRICT ONE. ROB SIPES, DISTRICT SEVEN. MICHELLE ALIA, HOLLAND MAYOR'S APPOINTEE. CHARLES FUENTES FOR DISTRICT THREE . DISTRICT SIX, TAYLOR WATSON, DISTRICT TWO. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, COMMISSIONER WATSON, DO WE HAVE A QUORUM? A QUORUM IS PRESENT. ARE OUR MICROPHONE'S A LITTLE LOW? YEAH. OR CAN Y'ALL HEAR US WELL ENOUGH? OKAY. ALRIGHT. VERY GOOD. UM, IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALRIGHT, UH, BEFORE WE BEGIN OUR MEETING, I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO REVIEW, UM, THE FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE, UH, STAFF IF YOU WOULD. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF. THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE ZONING COMMISSION, YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR REQUEST TO CITY COUNCIL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE SEE YOUR CASE MANAGER. STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST. PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN X INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT IS WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST. FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR, FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING. YOU WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. THOSE IN SUPPORT IN OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION. YOU WILL BE INFORMED THAT THE THREE MINUTES ARE UP. FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES. THOSE GIVING THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK. THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. AND I FAILED TO ASK YOU IF YOU WERE DOING THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMITATION OR IF YOU'RE DOING A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMITATION. WE'RE GONNA DO A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMITATION TODAY. OKAY. THAT'S A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMITATION FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE. TWO MINUTES. ALRIGHT. UM, OKAY. [Zoning Items  ] IF WE COULD PLEASE GO OVER OUR POSTPONED, WITHDRAWN, AND PULLED ITEMS. YES SIR. WE HAVE THREE ITEMS TODAY FOR POSTPONEMENT. ITEM NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS IN DISTRICT SIX, LOCATED AT 8 34 SOUTHWEST 36TH STREET, ENDING IN ZONING CASE NUMBER 2 6 7. THIS ITEM IS POSTPONED ITEM NUMBER TWO IN DISTRICT FOUR AT 83 31 SOUTHWEST FORT LOOP FOUR 10, IT ENDING IN [00:05:01] 3 0 6 AND ALSO ITEM NUMBER SIX LOCATED IN DISTRICT ONE AT ONE 14 ENT. AND THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z 2 79. THESE THREE ITEMS ARE POSTPONED. WHAT THAT MEANS IS IT'S A BASIC RESTART OF THE ZONING ITEM. UM, THEY WILL BE RESTARTED WHEN THE APPLICANTS FOR THESE CASES ARE READY TO PROCEED. THAT MEANS THAT YOU WILL RECEIVE NEW NOTIFICATION WHEN THIS CASE MOVES FORWARD. MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND SO JUST TO REITERATE, THAT MEANS IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ANY OF THOSE THREE ITEMS, YOU CAN GO ON YOUR WAY AND HAVE A LOVELY REST OF YOUR DAY. UH, WHEN THESE ITEMS COME BACK BEFORE US, YOU WILL GET ANOTHER NOTICE JUST AS YOU RECEIVE NOTICE TODAY. UM, ALRIGHT. AT THIS TIME, UH, BEFORE WE GO TO CONSENT, I'M GOING TO ASK, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE TO STEP OUT AND THE TIME IS 1 0 6 AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, UH, HAS STEPPED OUT OF THE HEARING ROOM, UH, DUE TO RECUSALS. AND SO IF WE CAN NOW, UH, READ OR ACTUALLY LET COMMISSIONERS KNOW WHICH ITEMS ARE CURRENTLY ELIGIBLE FOR CONSENT. THE FOLLOWING ITEMS FOR CONSENT ARE ITEM NUMBER 12, ITEM NUMBER 13, AND ITEM NUMBER 14. ALRIGHT. COMMISSIONERS, ANY OF THOSE ITEMS TO BE PULLED TO INDIVIDUAL COMMERS TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER WATSON. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. IF WE COULD PLEASE READ THE CONSENT ITEMS INTO THE RECORD. UH, FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE, THE CONSENT ITEMS ARE THOSE, UM, THAT HAVE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS OF APPROVAL AND, UM, HAVE NOT SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC COMMENT AGAINST. UH, SO AT THIS TIME, PLEASE READ THOSE INTO THE RECORD. ITEM NUMBER 12 IS A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I ONE TO R FOUR. GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 19,900 BLOCK OF INTERSTATE 37 SOUTH 16 NOTICES WERE SENT, ZERO WERE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED. AND THERE IS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO R FIVE, LOCATED AT 8 6 2 SOUTHWEST 39TH STREET. 28 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED, AND NO RESPONSE FROM LOS HARDING'S NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND THEN LAST ITEM FOR CONSENT IS ITEM NUMBER 14, WHICH IS A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO TO IDZ THREE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR 24 DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 8 2 1 NORTHWEST 19TH STREET. 42 NOTICES WERE SENT. 14 IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED WEST END HOPE IN ACTION. NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT AND NO RESPONSE FROM PROSPECT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THEY ALSO RECEIVED TWO IN FAVOR OUTSIDE 200 FEET. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. UH, COMMISSIONERS THE FLOORS, MR. CHAIR. SORRY. UH, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE AN, AN AMENDING ACREAGE AT THE PODIUM FOR ITEM NUMBER 12. AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE ALSO HAVE A VOICEMAIL. DO WE? NO, NOT THERE. ALRIGHT. IF YOU COULD PLEASE COME UP. HI. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. KEVIN DENDA, BROWN AND ORTIZ ONE 12 EAST PECAN STREET AMENDING THE ACREAGE FOR ITEM 12 FROM 45.2 ACRES TO 38.48 ACRES. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. DENDA. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, ASSUMING THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT, THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR A MOTION. MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ITEMS ITEM NUMBER 12 WITH THE AMENDED ACREAGE. ITEM NUMBER 13 AND ITEM 14. ALRIGHT, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER FUENTES. UH, ANY DISCUSSION? COMMERS TO MY LEFT COMMISSIONER TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER WATSON. SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF 12 AS AMENDED. 13 AND 14. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES. AYE. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER LIA HOLLAND? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. ITEMS PASS FOR APPROVAL. GREAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. IF WE COULD PLEASE GET, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE BACK IN THE ROOM AND, UH, IF YOU WERE HERE FOR THOSE THREE ITEMS, 12, 13, OR 14, YOU'RE WELCOME TO GO ABOUT YOUR DAY. UH, YOU WILL GO FORWARD [00:10:01] TO CITY COUNCIL AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU AND GOOD LUCK. ALRIGHT, UH, IF WE COULD PLEASE READ OUR NEXT DOCKET, WHICH IS THE CONTINUANCE HEARING TO 1220. ITEMS I HAVE FOR CONTINUANCE ARE ITEM NUMBER 10, ITEM NUMBER 11, AND ITEM NUMBER 16. SO ITEM NUMBER 10 IS A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO R SIX CD WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 1 0 5 TERRELL AVENUE. 25 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED IN MISSION. SAN JOSE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR. ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A, UM, CHANGE IN ZONING FROM RMM FOUR TO RMM FOUR CONDITIONAL USE WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR PERFORMING ART STUDIO LOCATED AT 2 3 0 CACTUS STREET. 50 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED, AND NO RESPONSE FROM DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO RMM FOUR LOCATED AT 29 50 WEIR AVENUE. EIGHT NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED, AND NO RESPONSE FROM THOMPSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND THOSE ITEMS ARE FOR CONTINUANCE FOR DECEMBER 20TH, 2022. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. IS THERE A MOTION MR. CHAIR? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCES TO THE DECEMBER 20TH MEETING FOR THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ITEMS NUMBER 10, 11, AND 16. IS THERE A SECOND? A SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES. UH, MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE FOR 10, 11 AND 16 TO THE DECEMBER 20TH MEETING BY COMMISSIONER SIPES. UH, COMMENTS, DISCUSSION TO MY, TO MY LEFT TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER WATSON. ALL RIGHT. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES. AYE. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER KATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER LEGIA HOLLAND? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. ITEM PASS FOR CONTINUANCE. GREAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO OUR SECOND CONTINUANCE DOCKET STAFF. IF YOU WOULD INTO THE RECORD. OUR NEXT ITEM FOR CONTINUANCE TO JANUARY 17TH, 2023 IS ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO MF 18 LOCATED AT 12 5 0 5 WALLER ROAD. 22 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO IN FAVOR. THREE OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM HILLS OF RIVER MISSED. H O A ONE IS IN SUPPORT AND TWO OPPOSED OUTSIDE. 200 FEET. ALRIGHT. UM, NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ONE. VERY GOOD. UH, IS THERE A MOTION MR. CHAIR? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE TO THE JANUARY 17TH MEETING FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ALRIGHT. UH, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ IS A SECOND, UH, MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO JANUARY 17TH BY COMMISSIONER SIPES. UM, ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT. TO MY RIGHT. ALRIGHT. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER TIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES. AYE. COMMISSIONER KAMUS? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER LU HOLLAND? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. CHAIR BUSTAMANTE. AYE. ITEM PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. UH, IF YOU WERE HERE FOR ITEMS 10, 11, 16 OR THREE, AND YOU ARE WELCOME TO GO ABOUT YOUR WAY, THEY WILL BE HEARD EITHER IN APPROXIMATELY A MONTH AND A HALF OR, UH, APPROXIMATELY TWO WEEKS. OTHERWISE, WE ARE NOW GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING DOCKET. WE ARE GONNA DO ONE THING OUT OF ORDER. UH, WE ARE GOING TO HEAR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. LAST I THINK YOU MEANT NINE. NINE. ITEM NINE. I NINE. I DID MEAN NINE. I'M SORRY. IT'S ONE OF THOSE DAYS. APPARENTLY I'M STILL NOT BACK FROM THANKSGIVING BREAK. ALL RIGHT. IF WE [00:15:01] COULD PLEASE HAVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR, READ INTO THE RECORD. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS ELIZABETH STEWART, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS LOCATED AT 3 1 12 WEST CORTLAND PLACE GOING FROM R SIX TO I D Z TWO WITH USES PERMITTED FOR C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND BORROWED TAVERN WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME. THERE WERE NINE NOTICES SENT OUT. ONE OF ONE IN FAVOR. SIX OPPOSED TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION HAS SENT A LETTER INDICATING SUPPORT OF A HISTORICAL DESIGNATION FOR THE PROPERTY, BUT NO RESPONSE ON THE REZONING REQUEST. GREAT HEARTS, K THROUGH 12 IS IN SUPPORT, ONE IN OPPOSITION OUTSIDE 200 FEET AND ONE IN FAVOR OUTSIDE 200 FEET. THE EXISTING R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED I D Z TWO MEDIUM INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND BAR TAVERN IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THERE ARE CURRENTLY NO OTHER BARS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. AND BRINGING THIS, BRINGING IN THIS HIGHER INTENSITY USE WOULD DISRUPT THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA. STAFF FINDS LIKELY EVIDENCE OF ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE. REQUEST TO PROPOSE USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPERTIES ARE, THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE MADE UP ENTIRELY OF SCHOOLS AND CHURCHES. AND THE APPLICANT WOULD NEED TO OBTAIN AN ALCOHOL VARIANCE FOR THE DISTANCE FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO THE GREAT HEARTS. K THROUGH 12 SCHOOL ABOVE THE NORTHWEST CORNER FROM THE PROPERTY STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. THE APPLICANT SHOULD BE PRESENT AND HAS INDICATED THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO AMEND HIS REQUEST TO I D Z ONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UH, IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? MR. WEISMAN, IF YOU'D COME UP, INTRODUCE YOURSELF, GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US ABOUT YOUR REZONING REQUEST. YOU, UH, BUT IT'S FOR THREE 12 COURTLAND. UM, I THINK THERE'S SOME MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT MY INTENT WITH THE HOUSE. UM, I JUST WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. UH, AND SO I WANTED TO, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, UH, REGARDING WHAT MAY TAKE PLACE IN THE HOUSE. I HAVE LETTERS OF SUPPORT. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS MENTIONED OR NOT FROM THE SCHOOL, THE TEMPLE AND, UM, THE LANDOWNER ACROSS THE STREET. UM, THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO BE A BAR. I'M INTERESTED IN DOING A SMALL PLATE RESTAURANT. UM, I'VE NEVER OWNED A BAR. I HAVE NO DESIRE TO OWN A BAR. UM, I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION, I WANTED TO SWITCH THAT I WANTED TO AMEND TO L D Z ONE AS MENTIONED. UM, I'M ALSO WILLING TO, UH, UH, GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO GET HISTORICAL DESIGNATION. UM, SO, UH, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THAT I'M A MEMBER OF THE TEMPLE. MY CHILDREN GO TO THE SCHOOL AND I ALSO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I WOULD DO NOTHING TO COMPROMISE ANY OF THOSE THINGS. UM, MY NEIGHBORS WOULD HOLD ME TO BEAR FOR THAT, SO I WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR THAT I HAVE NO DESIRE TO REPLICATE WHAT'S HAPPENING ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, ALSO I WANTED TO MENTION THAT, UH, SOMEONE HAD SENT TO ME A, UH, PLAN THAT WAS, UH, DESIGN THAT DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS A MIDTOWN IS A DESIGNATES MIDTOWN AS A REGIONAL CENTER. AND I THINK THOSE VISIONS AND GOALS SEEM TO BE ALIGNED WITH WHAT I'M TRYING TO ACHIEVE. THAT'S PART OF THE, UH, ESSAY, TOMORROW'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH I'M SURE Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH. UM, BUT, UH, JUST LIKE TO MENTION SOME OF THE THINGS THAT IT STATES AND THAT'S, THAT IT'S, UM, PRESERVES ITS UNIQUE CHARACTER AND ALSO SUPPORTS MIXED USE ACTIVITIES IN THE AREA. IT ALSO STATES THAT IT SHOULD STIMULATE A THRIVING ECONOMY AND GROW UNIQUE DESTINATIONS. WEST CORTLAND IS DESIGNATED AS A MEDIUM PURPLE, WHICH IS MIXED USE. THAT INCLUDES AMENITIES AND EMPLOYMENT ANCHORS, AS WELL AS A MIX OF BUSINESSES, JOBS, SERVICES, AND LIVING, UM, PLA UH, PLACES OF BUSINESS. SO, UM, MY REQUEST IS THAT IT'S, EVERYONE CONSIDERS THE FACT THAT I DO WANT THIS TO BE A RESTAURANT FORWARD, UM, BUSINESS, UH, WITH SUPPLEMENTED WITH BEER, WINE, AND HARD ALCOHOL. UM, AND THAT'S THE EXTENT OF IT. UM, I, I REALLY WANNA DO RIGHT WITH HISTORICAL DESIGNATION. I WANT TO REHAB THE HOUSE. THE HOUSE HAS BEEN, UH, SINCE THE SALE. UM, IT'S JUST BEEN INUNDATED WITH HOMELESS. UM, I FINALLY SECURED THE HOUSE. UH, WE'D LIKE TO, UH, RESTORE IT AND, UM, HAVE A THRIVING BUSINESS THERE. I KNOW ACROSS THE STREET THE PLANS BY URBAN WESTIN ARE TO CHANGE THAT INTO A, THE KALER HOUSE INTO A SMALL BOUTIQUE HOTEL, WHICH WILL PROBABLY ALSO INCLUDE A, AT THE VERY LEAST, A BARON WINE LICENSE. SO, UM, I THINK CHANGE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS, UH, COMING, UH, NO MATTER WHAT. SO I HOPE THAT I CAN BE INCLUDED WITH THREE 12 COURTLAND. THANK YOU MR. LASSMAN. UH, THANK YOU. I GUESS MAYBE TAKE THAT SEAT IN CASE YOU'RE CALLED BACK UP. SURE. OR STAY UP THERE DEPENDING. LET'S SEE. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? [00:20:01] YES. WE HAVE A GENTLEMAN NAMED ROSS LAUGHIN, UM, HERE TO SPEAK. LAWHEAD LAWHEAD. HERE TO SPEAK. ROSS WILL DO. ALRIGHT, ROSS, COME ON ABOUT THAT. HI, UH, MY NAME'S ROSS LAWHEAD. I'M HERE AS GENERAL COUNSEL OF THE AMMO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT ON BEHALF OF SAN ANTONIO COLLEGE. UH, WE ARE ALSO, IN FACT, AS MR. WEISSMAN REFERENCED, THE SELLER RECENTLY TO WESTERN URBAN, TO THE KALER HOUSE. UM, WE ARE IN OPPOSITION TO, THIS CASE IS FILED BECAUSE IT'S, UH, IT'S TOO INTENSE ALLOWING FOR C C TWO USES ESPECIALLY. ONE THING WE ALWAYS HAVE TO REMEMBER WHEN WE'RE DOING ZONING IS THAT WE MAY LIKE WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW. WE MAY LIKE THE REZONING PROPONENT, BUT WE MAY LIVE IN THE FUTURE WITH A SALE AND SOMETHING ELSE. SO, UM, WE ARE ENCOURAGED BY THE AMENDMENT IF THE DAY IS TO I D Z ONE. AND, UM, WE WILL THEREFORE TAKE THE POSITION OF NEITHER, UH, BEING IN FAVOR OR OPPOSING THIS, UH, MR. WEISSMAN'S REPUTATION FOR GOOD CUISINE PRECEDES HIM. AND WE HOPE THAT, UH, THIS WILL BE A SUCCESS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. ANY FURTHER? PUBLIC COMMENT? MR. I DO NOT SEE. NO. YEP. WONDERFUL PRIVILEGE. CAN YOU ASK THE AV UH, TURN UP THE VOLUME? WE CAN'T HEAR OVER HERE. OKAY. YEAH, IF WE COULD GET, I THINK SOMEONE TURNED UP MY MIC, BUT NOT NECESSARILY ANYONE ELSE'S. SO I'M A LITTLE HOT NOW, BUT, UH, THAT'S WHERE WE END UP. UM, ALRIGHT. OKAY. SO, UH, MR. WEISSMAN, IF YOU WANT A SHORT REBUTTAL ON THAT, I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY. UH, BUT WE WILL GO ON TO QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONER. AND THIS IS A DISTRICT ONE CASE, SO, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE WILL LEAD OFF. MR. WEISMAN, COULD I HAVE YOU UP FOR A COUPLE QUESTIONS? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU'RE AMENDING TO I D Z ONE WITH USES FOR A FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND QUESTION FOR STAFF, IS THERE A WAY TO ADD HISTORIC DESIGNATION AT THIS POINT IN TIME? NO, THERE IS NOT. UNLESS HE, UM, CONTINUES IT AGAIN, UH, WITH ENOUGH TIME FOR IT TO GO TO H D R C AND GET ALL THE CONSIDERATIONS FOR THAT OR POSTPONE IT. UM, HE WOULD BE ABLE TO JUST PROCEED AS IS TODAY, UM, DEPENDING ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION. AND THEN, UM, IT'LL HAVE TO COME BACK IF HE RECEIVES HISTORIC, IF IT'S APPLICABLE FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE AMENABLE TO DOING? YES. YES MA'AM. UM, I RECEIVED AN EMAIL YESTERDAY FROM THEIR OFFICE, UM, AND I CONFIRMED THAT I WOULD DO THAT VIS-A-VIS EMAIL. UM, AND UM, I AM COMMITTED TO MAKING THAT IN AN HISTORICAL DESIGNATION. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. IF IT NEEDS TO BE, UH, WAYLAID FOR ANOTHER TWO WEEKS, THAT'S FINE. I CAN DO THAT. I THINK IT, I DON'T THINK THAT, UM, H C R C CAN DO IT THAT QUICKLY. GONNA NEED, YOU'RE GONNA NEED AT LEAST A MONTH OR TWO. OKAY, THAT'S FINE. I'M IN, I'M IN NO HURRY. OKAY. AS LONG AS IT'S NOT, WON'T BE HOLDING UP ANY OF YOUR PLANS. NO MA'AM. GOING FORWARD. NO, MA'AM. OKAY. OKAY. UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. ALRIGHT. UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE TO YOU FOR, UH, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE MOTION. OH WAIT. DR. HAY, DO YOU , SO DO WE HAVE FURTHER INFORMATION FROM YES, WE DO. DR. HAY DOES SAY THAT IT DID GO TO H D R C AND IT IS RECOMMENDED, UM, FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. HOWEVER, UM, IT'S A SPECIAL DISTRICT AND SO THAT WOULD MEAN REIFICATION AND, AND REP, UH, REPROCESSING. SO WE CAN JUST SET IT UP TO JUST COME BACK. IT, IT WON'T BE ONE 17, IT WON'T BE LIKE A CONTINUATION. IT'LL JUST BE A POSTPONEMENT AND A RESTART BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTA SEND OKAY. A PUBLICATION OUT AND WE HAVE TO RE-NOTICE. IS THAT AN ADDITIONAL FEE FOR THE APPLICANT? NO. NO, IT WILL NOT BE. SO I WOULD SAY WE COULD DO THAT FOR THE JAN THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY. OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO CLARIFY THIS OR? YES, SO SORRY, IS IT GOING TO BE, SO DO I NEED TO CONTINUE IT THEN, IF THAT'S THE PROCESS? NO, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO WHAT WE'LL JUST SAY IS IT'S GONNA GET POSTPONED TODAY FROM CONSIDERATION AND, UH, WE WILL BRING IT BACK TO YOU JANUARY THE 17TH. SO, YEAH. MR. WEISSMAN, UM, JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU'RE WILLING TO POSTPONE THIS, TO BRING IT BACK JANUARY 17TH, UH, FOR CONSIDERATION AT THAT TIME FOR THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION AS WELL AS THE AMENDED I D Z ONE FOOD SERVICES? SURE. I'M AMENABLE TO THAT. I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THE 17TH, I, I BELIEVE I'M OUTTA TOWN. WOULD I NEED TO BE PRESENT [00:25:01] FOR THAT? UH, YOU OR A REPRESENTATIVE WOULD BE. IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE, WE CAN DO THE FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY, IF YOU'D LIKE. THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE BETTER. THAT WOULD BE BETTER. OKAY. YES, SIR. I THINK THAT'LL GIVE US PLENTY OF TIME. ARE YOU GOOD? I DON'T HAVE TO, I DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION. RIGHT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION. SO, UM, THAT WILL BE CONSIDERED AT, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE TO EVEN SAY WHEN IT'S GONNA BE CONSIDERED. OKAY. IT'S POSTPONED. SURE. UH, PLAN FOR THE FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY, WHICH IS THE SEVENTH. THE SEVENTH. UM, AND WE'LL GO FORWARD THERE. I APPRECIATE YOUR'S TIME. THANK YOU MR. ROSSMAN. THANK, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. COME ON FREE AGAIN. YES. YES SIR. THANK YOU. WE, WE CAN'T HOLD YOU, I PROMISE. . ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. WE ARE NOW ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. MY NAME IS KELLY SANDERS, UH, UH, PLANNING COORDINATOR. UM, I AM INTRODUCING ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO R FOUR CONDITIONAL USE FOR A, UM, FOUR DWELLING UNITS. UM, MAKE IT UNDER STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS. THE, UM, PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. THERE IS ESTABLISHED DUPLEXES AND OTHER, UM, AND FOUR UNITS ON OTHER PROPERTIES WITHIN THAT BLOCK. THE EXISTING R FOUR IS, UM, ARE THE PROPOSED R FOUR CD WE FIND IS APPROPRIATE AND ALLOWS FOR MORE HOUSING OPTIONS IN THE AREA. UM, AND THEN THE REQUEST FOR MORE DENSITY ALSO MEETS THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. UM, BECAUSE OF THE HISTORY OF ZONING, THE R FOUR FOR THIS PROPERTY ACTUALLY PERMITS A DUPLEX USE. AND BECAUSE THIS IS ACTUALLY TWO ORIGINAL LOTS, YOU COULD POTENTIALLY WITHOUT THE REZONING HAVE UP TO FOUR UNITS A DUPLEX ON EACH LOT. UM, WE RECEIVED 31 NOTICES WERE SENT ONE IN FAVOR, 10 OPPOSED WOODLAWN LAKE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED. AND THEN SEVEN IN FAVOR OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET. AND THEN ALSO MONTICELLO PARK AND JEFFERSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOTH ARE OPPOSED, WHICH ARE OUTSIDE 200 FEET. UM, THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE. OKAY. IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD PLEASE. HI. GOOD AFTERNOON GUYS. HOW ARE YOU? THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AND LISTENING TO ME. UH, JUST TO KIND OF REITERATE, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME OH, AND YOUR ADDRESS. SORRY. THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. THANK ROBERT BINKY. 8 0 6 5 PRU ROAD. UM, JUST TO KIND OF GO OVER SOME OF THE THINGS THAT KELLY WAS MENTIONING ABOUT THIS PROJECT, UH, WE ARE ON A DOUBLE LOT. IT'S A HUNDRED FEET WIDE BY 180 FEET DEEP. SO IT'S VERY LARGE. AND AS SHE ALSO MENTIONED, ESSENTIALLY WE'RE PUTTING TWO DUPLEXES, ONE PER LOT ESSENTIALLY. UM, IT, THERE ARE OTHER MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTIES IN THE AREA. ALSO, AS SHE MENTIONED, UM, THE NEAR NORTHWEST PLANS FUTURE LAND MAP STATES THAT THIS IS A MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL AREA INCLUDING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES, FOURPLEXES, TOWN HOMES, COTTAGE HOUSING, AND ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS EXACTLY ONE OF THESE ITEMS. SO I THINK THAT WE FIT WELL IN THAT. UM, IT ALSO MATCHES THE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION OF MEDIUM DENSITY. UM, WE DID GO AROUND AND TALK TO SOME NEIGHBORS. UM, MY IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS THAT I WAS ABLE TO SPEAK WITH WERE IN FAVOR OF IT. ALTHOUGH ONE OF THE NICER LADIES WAS NOT WILLING TO SIGN ANYTHING FOR ME, SHE WAS IN FAVOR OF IT. AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. UM, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION AT THIS TIME. UM, WE'VE GRANTED CONTINUANCES AND WORKED HAND IN HAND WITH THEM. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO COMPROMISE WITH THAT GROUP OF FOLKS ON IS, UH, WE'VE REMOVED A SECOND STORY FROM ONE OF OUR FRONT UNITS TO DECREASE THIS HEIGHT. UM, WE REMOVED APPROXIMATELY 699 SQUARE FEET FROM THAT SAME UNIT TO SHRINK ITS SIZE AS WELL. UH, WHICH WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. UM, BY, UH, I ONLY AM LOOK, AM LOOKING FOR A SEVEN FEET, EIGHT INCHES OF VARIANCE ON THAT FRONT LENGTH. IT, UH, IT CURRENTLY IS OVER THE 50 THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD GUIDELINE CALLS FOR NOW. AND WE'D BE LOOKING FOR 63 FEET AND EIGHT INCHES. UM, OTHER ITEMS THAT WE'VE COMPROMISED WITH THEM ON, WE DID GO FROM NINE BEDROOMS TO SEVEN BEDROOMS AND WE ALSO [00:30:01] HAVE ADDED TWO ADDITIONAL PARKING SPOTS FOR A TOTAL OF EIGHT ONSITE PARKING SPOTS WITH ONLY SEVEN BEDROOMS ON SITE. SO I THINK THAT THAT MAKES GOOD SENSE IN KEEPING TRAFFIC DOWN FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HELPING WITH THE STREETS AND THE FLOW OF THINGS AND THINGS OF THIS NATURE. UM, ANOTHER THING THAT'S COME UP WAS, UH, SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES. UM, I'VE STATED THAT, UH, AS THE BUILDER AND THE DEVELOPER, WE ARE MORE THAN WILLING TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT LOT IS GRADED CORRECTLY WHEN WE ARE DOING OUR DRIVEWAYS AND OUR ASPHALT. WE'RE HAPPY TO PUT GUTTERS ON BOTH OF THE STRUCTURES AS WELL TO HELP THAT WATER DIRECT TOWARDS THE FRONT ROAD AND NOT TO OUR NEIGHBOR'S LOTS. UM, MY LAST POINT, AND I'LL KEEP IT SHORT HERE, UH, WE ARE KEEPING THE ORIGINAL HOME. AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M GONNA BE RESTORING THE ORIGINAL HOME THAT IS THERE ON THE PROPERTY AND BRINGING IT BACK TO BEAUTIFUL, A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE AGAIN. SO, UM, THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE PLAN AND WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP THE ORIGINAL HOME THAT WAS THERE ON THE PROPERTY AND WORK WITH THAT AS PART OF OUR PLAN AND INCLUDE THAT IN EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING. SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF MY BRIEF POINTS THAT I'VE PREPARED FOR YOU GUYS. UH, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME SIR? WE'RE GONNA HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. OH, OKAY. AND THEN WE'LL BRING YOU BACK UP FOR A BRIEF REBUTTAL. SORRY. UM, ALRIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? I DON'T SEE ANYBODY SIGNED UP HERE TO SPEAK, BUT WE DO HAVE VOICEMAILS. VERY GOOD. IF WE COULD HEAR THE VOICEMAILS NOW PLEASE. AND IF ANYONE'S HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, SPEAK NOW. VERY GOOD. ALRIGHT. THE VOICEMAILS PLEASE? YES. THIS IS FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5 18 23 WEST CRAIG PLACE. MY NAME IS BIANCA MALTA AND MY ADDRESS IS 4 57 CLUB DRIVE, 7 8 2 0 1 2 1 0 3 8 5 6 1 8 8. I WAS SPEAKING, UH, IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED INCREASED DENSITY AT 1823 WEST CRAIGS PLACE, AS I BELIEVE IT IS AN INCOMPATIBLE INFILL DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS PROPERTY. THIS PROPERTY, WHICH IS LOCATED IN THE MIDDLE OF A BLOCK AND IS COMPLETELY SURROUNDED, COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY ZONED PROPERTIES. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT AS WE GROW AS A CITY AND WE SEEK TO ADD DENSITY, THAT WE DO SO IN AREAS WHERE IT IS APPROPRIATE AND WHERE IT WILL HAVE MINIMAL IMPACT TO THE EXISTING COMMUNITY. THIS PARTICULAR RESIDENCE IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION BECAUSE OF IT BEING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BLOCK, DOES NOT MEET THAT REQUIREMENT AS REQUIREMENT AS IT'S OUTLINED. ALSO, IN THE SAN ANTONIO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2016, IT REFERENCES DISTANCE DENSITY SHOULD BE IN APPROPRIATE AREAS WHERE THERE'S ADEQUATE BUFFERS AND ALSO CLOSE TO TRANSIT CORRIDORS NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BLOCK. ALSO, THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN FOCUSES ON FIVE MAIN GOALS WITH ONE OF THEM BEING GOAL NUMBER FOUR, WHICH SAYS TO PROTECT, PROTECT, AND PROMOTE NEIGHBORHOODS. I'M ASKING THE ZONING COMMISSION TO DENY THE REQUESTED ZONING CHANGE TODAY. I WAS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETINGS WITH THE WOOD ON LAKE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION WHEN THEY MET WITH THE APPLICANT. HOWEVER, I FEEL AS THOUGH THE APPLICANT DID NOT ADDRESS THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CONCERNS AND WAS NOT RESPONSIVE TO THEIR REQUEST ABOUT, UM, THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS COVER THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD ADD. ALSO, UH, CITY STAFF IS SILENT IN THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS. THIS IS FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE. MY NAME IS GARY HUDMAN. I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE MONTICELLO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, OFFERING COMMENTS ON BEHALF OF DREA GARZA, PRESIDENT OF M P A AND THE M P N A BOARD OF DIRECTORS. OUR ADDRESS IS POST OFFICE BOX 1 0 0 3 1 5. SAN ANTONIO 7 8 2 0 1 M P N A HAS SUBMITTED A LETTER FOR CONSIDERATION FOR ZONING CASE Z DASH 2022 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 2 4 8 CD FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1823 WEST CRAIG PLACE, NP A'S LETTER STATES, THE MONTICELLO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS THE WOODLAWN LAKE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET WHO ARE IN OPPOSITION TO ZONING CASE Z 20 22 1 0 7 0 0 2 4 8 CD 1823 WEST CRAIG PLACE, CURRENTLY ZONED R FOUR AND SEEKING A CHANGE TO R FOUR WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS. WE THANK THE WOODLAWN LAKE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION FOR THEIR HARD WORK AS VOLUNTEERS AND FOR THEIR [00:35:01] ADVOCACY ON BEHALF OF THEIR CODIFIED WOODLAWN LAKE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT GUIDELINES, WHICH ARE IMPACTED BY THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN FOR THIS ZONING CASE. WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL AND THE ZONING COMMISSION TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE FOR 1823 WEST CRAIG, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF OUR COMMENTS. GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS JD LES, PRESIDENT OF WOODLAWN LAKE COMMITTEE ASSOCIATION. WOODLAWN LAKE COMMITTEE ASSOCIATION IS PROVIDING A LETTER OF OPPOSITION TO THE ZONING CASE Z DASH 2 0 2 2 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 2 4 8 CD WITH THE ADDRESS OF 1 8 2 3 WEST CRAIG PLACE. THE LETTER OF OPPOSITION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO COUNCIL MINAL AND THE ZONING COMMISSION. UM, AS REQUESTED, ITS ASSOCIATION HAS DECIDED TO OPPOSE THE PROJECT BASED ON ASSOCIATION'S GENERAL MEMBER VOTE CONDUCTED IN OUR NOVEMBER MEETING, AS WELL AS SEVERAL OPPOSITION LETTERS SUBMITTED BY RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. ALRIGHT. I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. UH, MR. BINKY A BRIEF REBUTTAL SHOULD YOU WANT TO USE IT. OKAY. YOU MIGHT WANT TO CUT UP HERE ANYWAY. WE MIGHT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU. ALRIGHT, SO NOW WE WILL OPEN THIS UP FOR QUESTIONS AND THIS IS A DISTRICT SEVEN CASE, SO COMMISSIONER SIPES TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, FIRST QUESTION IS FOR, UM, STAFF AND THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING ABOUT THE, UH, KIND OF BONUS THAT YOU GET WHEN YOU CONVERT FROM B TO R. CAN YOU TELL ME WHEN WAS THAT CHANGED? WAS IT 2000? WAS IT THE 2001 OR 65? I'M TRYING, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE 2001. OKAY. UM, UPDATE WHERE THEY ALLOWED FROM B THE OLD SCHOOL 19, LIKE 32 38 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 38. THANK YOU. ZONING B TO THE UPDATED 2001 R FOUR. OKAY. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, LET ME SEE JUST FOR GENERAL NOTES. WE, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF MEETINGS, SO MOST OF MY QUESTIONS I THINK HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. I'M TRYING TO THINK ON WHAT I CAN HELP THE, UH, FELLOW COMMISSION TALK ABOUT. UM, I GUESS QUESTION FOR, FOR THE APPLICANT, COULD YOU GO OVER, I GUESS A COUPLE OF THE THINGS THAT I, I, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE, THE SECOND RE REMOVAL OF THE SECOND STORY. YES, SIR. UM, COULD YOU GO OVER MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT, UM, OTHER THINGS THAT YOU YEAH, AB ABSOLUTELY ATTEMPTED TO COMPROMISE ON A HUNDRED PERCENT. UM, SO KIND OF GOING THROUGH, IF I CAN JUST MAYBE GO THROUGH THAT LIST AGAIN OF ITEMS THAT WE HAD KIND OF COMPROMISED ON. SO, UH, THE ORIGINAL PROJECT WAS A LITTLE LARGER AND HAD A SECOND STORY. IT WAS A LITTLE WIDER AND IT DIDN'T HAVE AS MANY PARKING SPOTS. SO THE PARKING SPOTS SEEMED TO BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT I FOUND THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOUND TO BE IMPORTANT. UM, IN REMOVING THAT SECOND STORY, WE REMOVED TWO BEDROOMS ON THAT SECOND STORY, RIGHT? SO WE WENT FROM THEN A NINE BEDROOM TO SEVEN BEDROOMS TOTAL THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT. UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE ADDED THOSE PARKING SPOTS TO HAVE SEVEN BEDROOMS AND EIGHT PARKING SPOTS ON SITE. UM, WHERE OUR GOAL FOR THAT WAS TO OBVIOUSLY KEEP THE STREET DECLUTTERED AND CONGESTED AND HELP WITH THAT. UM, IN THAT WE, UH, UM, THOSE WERE REALLY THE MAIN THINGS. BUT, UM, SHRINKING THE SIZE, SHRINKING THE HEIGHT, SHRINKING THE WIDTH, ADDING THE PARKING SPOTS, UM, THE NUMBER OF UNITS WERE IMPORTANT TO US, UH, TO HELP IN PAYING OFF THE NOTE THAT WE'LL HAVE AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. JUST GETTING THE DOORS AT THAT POINT. AND AGAIN, WE FEEL THAT IT IS APPROPRIATE BEING THAT AS IT SITS TODAY, THERE ARE FOUR C P SS METERS AND FOUR GAS METERS ON THAT PROPERTY IF YOU WENT BY THIS AFTERNOON. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT. BUT WE HAVE GOT, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH, UH, UH, ROB AS WELL AS THE CITY COUNCIL AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS AS WELL WITH WOODLAWN LAKE DIRECTLY, UM, TRYING TO FIND SOME HAPPY MEDIUM AND WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY GET IT THERE ALL THE WAY, BUT, UH, I I THINK THAT WE'VE SHOWED VERY GOOD FAITH IN TRYING TO MAKE THAT RIGHT FOR EVERYBODY AND MAKE IT THE, IF WE CAN PULL UP THE FRONT ELEVATION BY CHANCE TO MAYBE SHOW THAT, UM, IT SHOULD BE ON THAT SAME SET OF PLANS RIGHT THERE, I'D LIKE TO JUST MAYBE SHOW THAT IT IS FITTING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YEAH, THAT WAS GONNA BE MY SECOND QUESTION IS IF YOU HAD ELEVATION, YOU KNOW, THAT WAY WE'RE NOT BUILDING, SO FOR EXAMPLE, I KNOW THAT IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS IT'S BECOME COMMON TO BUILD LIKE THE THREE STORY STACK WITH THE ROOFTOP. AGAIN, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE'RE KEEPING THE ORIGINAL HOUSE, UM, KEEPING THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'RE USING SIMILAR MATERIALS TO GO BACK WITH, [00:40:01] UM, SIDING, UH, SOME SHAKE SIDING IN THE EAVES. UM, WHENEVER WE GET THAT UP WE CAN CHECK IT OUT. BUT AGAIN, TRYING TO KEEP IT SIMILAR TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'RE NOT DESIGNING SOMETHING TOTALLY OUT OF WHAT WOULD FIT AND LOOK LIKE IT BELONGED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND TO ADD ON THAT, I, NOT THAT IT NECESSARILY MATTERS, BUT I DID USED TO LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD FOR SEVERAL YEARS. I FIXED A HOME DOWN ON THE 1700 BLOCK OF WEST SUMMIT, SO I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE DRAINAGE, THE PARKING. I DRIVE A BIG TRUCK, I COULDN'T GET MY TRUCK THROUGH THE STREET WITHOUT FOLDING IN MY MIRROR. I, I GET IT. YOU KNOW, SO, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE TRIED TO DO THE MOST THAT WE COULD TO MAKE IT WORK FOR BOTH PARTIES AT THE END OF THE DAY. UM, SORRY. IT'S OKAY. IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD IT ALL, BUT IT MIGHT HELP. YEAH, IT'S OKAY. I THINK THE ELEVATION WOULD THEN BE USEFUL AT THAT POINT. UM, EVEN IF IT JUST SHOWED THE MATERIAL THAT WAS ON THERE. I'M SORRY. NO, YOU'RE GOOD. I'M SORRY. I DON'T HAVE ANY, SO LIKE EVEN THERE GO DOWN LIKE RIGHT THERE. THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S NOT A TWO STORY. THAT'S COOL. SO THIS IS UNIT ONE AND TWO. SO UNIT ONE IS ON THE LEFT. UM, AND THAT IS THE ORIGINAL HOME THAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW. UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT DOES SIT A LITTLE TALLER THAN UNIT TWO. AS FAR AS THE BASE OF IT, IT IS A APPEAR AND BEAM HOUSE AND WE WOULD BE PROPOSING THAT THE, UH, UNIT TO THE RIGHT OF IT WOULD THEN BE ON A SLAB, BUT THEN CONNECT THAT COMMON WALL AND BE ADJOINED. UM, SO AGAIN, I I THINK THAT IT FITS THE NEIGHBORHOOD FAIRLY WELL, KEEPING THE ORIGINAL HOUSE AND KIND OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT. WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GOING OUT ON A CRAZY LIMB TRYING TO REDESIGN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT CORRECT AND LOOKING, UH, APPROPRIATE. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE RIGHT NOW. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SIPES, UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? YES, COMMISSIONER FUENTES, NOT MUCH A QUESTION BUT A STATEMENT. I, I DO SEE, I'VE SEEN ALL OF THE COMPROMISES THAT YOU'VE BEEN WILLING TO PUT FORWARD AND AS WELL AS THE OUTREACH AND, UM, I JUST WANNA COMMEND YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU. UH, ALSO AS WE HEARD EARLIER, THIS PROJECT COULD VERY WELL BE LARGER IN AND, UH, I I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'VE MADE THAT COMPROMISE TO BE, BE SMALLER AND FIT IN WITH THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU AS IT IS RIGHT NOW. YES SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SURE. SEE WE COULD MAKE THAT A QUESTION BY SAYING DON'T YOU AGREE WITH THAT ? UM, UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? ? OKAY. YEAH, WE'LL GET TO HER. TO COMMISSIONER WATSON. COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE QUESTION FOR STAFF. JUST WANNA CLARIFY. SO YOU SAID THAT THERE'S TWO LOTS AND EACH LOT WOULD BENEFIT FROM THE DUPLEX BY RIGHT. SO THAT HE COULD ALREADY DO FOUR UNITS BASICALLY BY RE PLATTING OR HE WOULDN'T HAVE TO REPL I DON'T THINK. I I'M NOT CERTAIN ON THE RE PLATTING IT'D BE THAT OR A CERTIFICATE OF DETERMINATION WOULDN'T THAT WOULD BE THROUGH THE PLATTING DEPARTMENT, BUT YES, HE DOESN'T, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S LOT FIVE AND LOT SIX, SO YEAH. HE CAN DO THE TWO UNITS BY RIGHT. JUST GET A PERMIT. OKAY. AND FOLLOW THE N C D STANDARDS. CORRECT. THAT'S ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS JUST DO IT RIGHT. YOU OKAY. QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONERS. UM, LET ME ASK YOU MR. BINKY YES. AND THEN WE'LL GET TO COMMISSIONER WATSON. YES. UM, THE EXISTING HOUSE, IS THAT ON A SINGLE LOT RIGHT NOW OR DOES IT GO ACROSS? IT GOES ACROSS AS WIDE THAN THE 50 FEET AS IT SITS. SO IF HE WAS GONNA DO THIS BY RIGHT, HE WOULD FIRST HAVE TO DEMOLISH THE HOUSE OR DEMOLISH A PORTION OF THE HOUSE. SO WE'RE GONNA, THERE'S AN OLD, SOME POOR ADDITIONS. YEAH. SORRY TO INTERRUPT. THERE'S THE ORIGINAL HOUSE AND SOME POOR ADDITIONS KIND OF WRAPPED AROUND IT. RIGHT NOW MY PROPOSAL IS THAT WE REMOVE THOSE POOR ADDITIONS AND KEEP THAT INITIAL STRUCTURE AND THEN ADD THE STRUCTURE NEXT TO IT AT SOME POINT. OKAY? YES, SIR. ALRIGHT. AND THANK YOU. AND I BELIEVE HE MENTIONED THAT, UH, WE HAVE LET HIM KNOW THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT BECAUSE OF THE WIDTH OF THE STRUCTURE. YEAH. RIGHT. AND THAT AND THAT VARIANCE IS NOT BEFORE US TODAY. YES, SIR. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEP. UH, COMMISSIONER WATSON, UM, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU ARE LOOKING TO DESIGN TO FIT IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. DID YOU, UM, REVIEW OR DEVELOP YOUR DESIGN WITH THE N C D DESIGN STANDARDS IN MIND? OUR ARCHITECT, UH, EXPLICITLY OR SPECIFICALLY? YEAH. OUR ARCHITECT AND DESIGN TEAM DID. YES MA'AM. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WATSON. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE, IT'S BACK TO YOU. COMMISSIONER S SIPES FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION. ALRIGHT, I HAVE A SHORT STATEMENT. UM, SO I'LL, I'LL GET GOING. ALRIGHT. UH, I'LL SAY THIS CASE IS PROBABLY THE MOST DIFFICULT ONE THAT I'VE SEEN IN, IN DISTRICT SEVEN. AND, AND, AND IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE I LIVE IN THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, THE, THE APPLICANT AND MULTIPLE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE IN DIRECT OPPOSITION, BUT [00:45:01] I GUESS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO REAL BAD GUY IN THE EQUATION. SO, YOU KNOW, MAKING IT LIKE AN EASY DECISION. SO I'LL GO STEP BY STEP WITH MY, WITH MY THOUGHTS. UM, THE PROPERTY IS A DOUBLE LOT, A HUNDRED FOOT WIDE AND FOUR-TENTHS OF AN ACRE, YET CURRENTLY ZONED R FOUR. IT DOES, HOWEVER, SIT IN THE MIDDLE OF A BLOCK WITH SIMILAR LOTS ON EITHER SIDE, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE STANDARD LOTS ACROSS THE STREET AND THEN DOWN THE STREET. UM, BOTH THE COMMUNITY PLAN FROM 2002 AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT FROM 2010 IDENTIFY THIS PROPERTY AS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS DEFINED AS INCLUDING SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES, DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES FOR PLEXES, TOWN HOMES, COTTAGE HOUSING, AND ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. UM, ALSO AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THE PROPERTY WAS ORIGINALLY A B ZONING AND ENJOYS A DUPLEX BONUS, SO TO SPEAK, THAT ALLOWS A DUPLEX BY RIGHT ON LOTS THAT WERE CONVERTED FROM B TO R BACK IN 2001. UM, THE LOT IS LARGE ENOUGH TO BE RE PLATTED INTO TWO R FOUR LOTS WITH EACH ALLOWING A DUPLEX ALL WITHOUT A ZONING CHANGE. UM, A FEW WEEKS AGO WE RECENTLY DENIED A CASE FOR THREE UNITS ON A LOT, JUST A FEW BLOCKS NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY ON WEST KINGS. UM, BUT I SEE MULTIPLE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THESE CASES. ONE, THAT LOT WAS ZONED R SIX AND WAS A STANDARD LOT ONLY 50 FEET WIDE. THAT LOT ALSO DID NOT ENJOY THE B TWO R CONVERSION BONUS BECAUSE I, AND I REMEMBER BECAUSE I ASKED AT THAT TIME. AND THAT LOT IS IDENTIFIED AS URBAN LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IN THE SAME COMMUNITY PLAN THAT LISTS THIS LOT AS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THERE IS STILL, HOWEVER, A LARGE AMOUNT OF NEIGHBORHOOD OPPOSITION TO THIS CASE. AND, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOODS CONSIST ENTIRELY OF VOLUNTEERS AND THEIR OPINIONS AND DILIGENCE CAN'T BE OVERLOOKED OR EASILY DISMISSED. THEY'VE HELD MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH THE CITY STAFF AND DISTRICT SEVEN STAFF. UNFORTUNATELY THEY COULD NOT COME TO AN AGREEMENT WHERE THIS PROPERTY JUST ONE BLOCK WEST, I WOULD NOT HESITATE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR DENIAL, PRIMARILY BECAUSE IT WOULD NO LONGER BE EARMARKED AS MEDIUM DENSITY IN THE LAND USE PLANS. UH, THIS BLOCK IS MEDIUM DENSITY, ONE BLOCK FARTHER AND YOU'RE INTO THE, THE LOW DENSITY DESIGNATION. UM, BUT IN THIS CASE I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AND I'VE ALREADY ACCEPTED THAT I PROBABLY WON'T BE INVITED TO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD GATHERINGS FOR A YEAR, BUT THAT'S OKAY. UM, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS VOICED ABOUT THE PROPERTY LEADING TO APARTMENT ROW. SOMEONE MENTIONED, UH, ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEMBERS YESTERDAY. UM, BUT I THINK THIS CASE CAN BE USED AS A POSITIVE PRECEDENT. THE CONDITIONAL USE REQUIRES A SITE PLAN, WHICH IS ON UNDERGONE REVISIONS TO ADDRESS MANY OF THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS WITH BOTH OVERALL DENSITY AND THE ADHERENCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT PARKING WAS INCREASED, MASSING DECREASED. FUTURE DEVELOPERS WILL KNOW THAT THEY MUST BE WILLING TO NOT ONLY COMPROMISE, BUT PROPOSE A COMPATIBLE DESIGN. AND WE'RE ALSO LOCKING IN, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER OF UNITS. SO WE'RE NOT ASKING, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT CREATING PRECEDENT OF LIKE, OH, WELL NOW WE'VE GOT 16 UNITS HERE. UM, THIS LOT'S ALSO AN ANOMALY IN THAT IS ONLY, IS ONE OF ONLY A HANDFUL OF LARGE LOTS ON THE ENTIRE STREET. WHILE THE N C D GUIDELINES ARE PRIMARILY FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO REVIEW AND DETERMINE CONFORMANCE, THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, IN MY OPINION, MEETS THE OVERALL SPIRIT OF THE PLAN WITH SINGLE STORY UNITS. PARKING IS IN THE BACK AND IT HAS COMPATIBLE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN. UM, I BELIEVE AS, AS THE APPLICANT STATED THAT THIS PLAN IS MUCH MORE COMPATIBLE AS COMPARED TO THE MULTI-STORY UNITS THAT WE SEE WITH FRONT FACING PARKING. UM, THIS PLAN ESSENTIALLY LOCKS IN TWO UNITS PER 50 FOOT OF STREETSCAPE SOMETHING ALREADY ALLOWED ALONG THE ENTIRE STREET. I WOULD RATHER HAVE A REVIEWABLE SITE PLAN THAN HAVE THE PROPERTY RE PLATTED AND DEVELOPED WITHOUT ANY COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT. UM, THAT SAID, I'D IMPLORE THE APPLICANT TO PROPOSE SOME LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT FEATURES OR REDUCE THE IMPERVIOUS COVER BEFORE GOING TO, TO CITY COUNCIL. SO I MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE AND LET THE TEXT MESSAGES BEGIN. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND. ALRIGHT. COMMISSIONER FUENTES IS THE SECOND. THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE. DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER ON MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER FUENTES. YEAH. UM, JUST WANTED TO, TO REITERATE THAT POINT ABOUT THE IMPERVIOUS COVER. UH, IF THERE'S ANY POSSIBILITY THAT YOU COULD INCORPORATE SOMETHING THAT WOULD HELP THAT DRAINAGE AND UH, UH, MAYBE LOOSE GRAVEL OR SOME KIND OF IMPLEMENT LIKE THAT, THAT MEETS WITH THE SAME DESIGN STANDARDS, UH, [00:50:01] STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THAT. WE'LL, YEAH. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. THANKS. I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION. UM, COMMISSIONER SIPES, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU'RE VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT AND, AND, UM, ANALYZED, UH, MOTION. UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE PART OF THE REASON I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS IS BECAUSE, UM, THE APPLICANT WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THE DENSITY THAT'S SET FORTH HERE REGARDLESS OF OUR REZONING. AND AS YOU STATED AS COMMISSIONER, I'VE STATED, UM, THIS GIVES A LITTLE MORE CONTROL OVER THAT DESIGN BECAUSE THIS IS AN N C D AND IT DOES REQUIRE SPECIAL CONSIDERATION. IT'S NOT JUST ANY OTHER LOT HISTORIC DISTRICTS. NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT DISTRICTS REALLY DO NEED THAT ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION. AND FURTHERMORE, AS WHAT I THINK COMMISSIONER BUS DEANTE WAS GETTING AT, IN ORDER TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT, BECAUSE IT IS ACROSS LOT LINES, THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE WOULD HAVE TO BE DEMOLISHED AND THEN TWO SEPARATE DUPLEXES BUILT. AND I THINK THAT WOULD ACTUALLY DISRUPT THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER MUCH MORE THAN THIS PROPOSAL WOULD. UM, AND FINALLY STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. SO I THINK THAT THAT IS, UM, WORTH SOME WEIGHT IN THIS CASE AS WELL. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. UH, COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? NOPE, YOU'RE GOOD. I WAS JUST GONNA PIGGYBACK OFF EVERYTHING. UM, IT DOES, I LIKE THE, THE FACT THAT THIS STRUCTURAL PRETTY MUCH STORE THE BLUEPRINT OF THE PROPERTY AND THAT WAY ANYBODY'S GONNA KIND OF START BUILDING GOING FORWARD. THEY'RE GONNA KINDA REPLICATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING. SO THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WATSON. DISCUSSION. UM, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION, WHICH IS PROBABLY NOT GONNA MAKE ME VERY POPULAR EITHER. BUT, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER AS WE'RE ADDRESSING THE HOUSING CRISIS IS THE IMPORTANCE OF PRESERVING EXISTING HOUSING STOCK. AND I APPRECIATE THAT THIS PROJECT DOES PRESERVE, UM, AN EXISTING STRUCTURE AND IS TRYING TO BE INNOVATIVE IN CREATING ADDITIONAL UNITS WHILE ALSO RESPECTING THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, I WOULD PREFER TO SEE THAT EXISTING STRUCTURE STAND THAN HAVE IT BE DEMOLISHED AND HAVE THE TWO DUPLEXES THAT COULD BE PUT IN BY RIGHT GO THERE. AND I THINK THE APPLICANT HAS SHOWN THAT THEY WERE WILLING TO GO TO PRETTY EXTREME LENGTHS, UH, BOTH TO FILE A REZONING THAT WASN'T NECESSARILY NEEDED TO PRESERVE THAT STRUCTURE. UM, AS WELL AS TO ENSURE THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE THEY COULD MEET THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO BE MINDFUL OF N C D GUIDELINES, WHICH AREN'T NOT ALWAYS THE CASE. SO I HOPE THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR FUTURE MISSING MIDDLE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WE ABSOLUTELY NEED, UM, WHILE ALSO RESPECTING THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, AND I COMMEND THE APPLICANT FOR DOING THAT. TO REITERATE EARLIER POINTS, PLEASE BE MINDFUL OF IMPERVIOUS COVER. I DO APPRECIATE SPECIFICALLY THE POINT ABOUT INCLUDING GUTTERS ON YOUR BUILDING, UH, WHICH I KNOW SOMETIMES DOESN'T HAPPEN IN SOME SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT EITHER. UM, WHICH I THINK WILL GO GO A LONG WAY TOWARD, UH, ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE DRAINAGE CONCERNS AS WELL. UM, BUT I, THOSE ARE THE REASONS I'M SUPPORTING THE MOTION AND I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER S SIPES VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT, UM, ARGUMENT AS WELL. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, I WILL NOT ADD ANYTHING FURTHER AS I THINK ALL MY POINTS HAVE BEEN MADE PROBABLY MORE ELOQUENTLY THAN I CAN. UH, I AM AVAILABLE THIS HOLIDAY SEASON IF THOSE INVITES NEED TO GO SOMEPLACE . UM, JUST KIDDING. UM, ALRIGHT, VERY WELL. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE BY COMMISSIONER SIPES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES. THANK YOU. UM, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES. AYE. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE? NO. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER LU HOLLAND? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. ITEM PASSES FOR APPROVAL AND THERE WENT ALL MY INVITATIONS. UM, GOOD LUCK MR. MINKE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS ELIZABETH STEWART, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS LOCATED AT 2 0 3 WEST BUCHANAN BOULEVARD GOING FROM R SIX CD FOR MULTIFAMILY USES NOT TO EXCEED 50 UNITS OR 25 BUILDINGS TO C TWO N A C D FOR AUTO REPAIR. WITH ALL OVERLAY STAYING THE SAME, THERE WERE 20 NOTICES SENT OUT. ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET. THE EXISTING R SIX CD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR MULTI-FAMILY COMPLEX NOT TO EXCEED 25 BUILDINGS AND 50 UNITS IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED C TWO C D COMMERCIAL [00:55:01] DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR AN AUTO REPAIR FAC FACILITY BRINGS THE USE ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN THE C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL USES TO THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY OR SURROUNDING AREA. WHILE CONDITIONS COULD BE PLACED ON THE REQUEST FOR BUFFERS, FENCING, LIGHTING, AND HOURS OPERATION, THE REZONING APPEARS TO BE COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND INTRODUCES COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT INTO A PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL AREA. STAFF FINDS EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND SURROUNDING AREA. AS THE SURROUNDING AREA IS LARGELY DEVELOPED AS RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL STAFF IS REC IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT AND WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT AN AMENDED SITE PLAN. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, IF THE APPLICANT OR APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, THREE 10 SOUTH ST. MARY'S, SUITE 2,700. I'VE GOT A LITTLE, UH, POWERPOINT PRESENTATION. SO WHEN THIS CASE FIRST CAME TO ME, I KIND OF LOOKED AT IT, YOU KNOW, AS A, AS A ANALYSIS, DID AN ANALYSIS OF, YOU KNOW, PROS AND CONS. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD GET APPROVED? YOU KNOW, AND THE FIRST THING I LOOKED AT IS THE PROPERTY. THE, THE SOUTHWEST SECTOR PLAN DESIGNATION IS GENERAL URBAN TIER, WHICH ALLOWS FOR VERY DENSE AND IN INTENSE USES. AND THEN I LOOKED AT THE EXISTING ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY, WHICH I GUARANTEE YOU THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE HAD FORGOTTEN ABOUT IT. BACK, BACK IN 2004, THE PROPERTY WAS REZONED FOR 25 DUPLEXES FOR 50 UNITS. SO A VERY INTENSE USE. UM, NEXT SLIDE. DO I DO I DO THAT? LEMME SEE. OH, SORRY. SO, UM, SO I THOUGHT, OKAY, WELL THIS KINDA MAKES SENSE. THERE'S ALSO A LARGE, I'LL SHOW YOU IN A MINUTE, A LARGE FLEA MARKET ACROSS THE STREET. SO THIS IS OUR CURRENT SITE PLAN. WE'VE KIND OF GONE THROUGH SOME DIFFERENT ITERATIONS OF THIS TO TRY TO GET IT AS SMALL AS WE CAN. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, I MEAN IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY GOING TO JUST ABUT A FEW PROPERTIES ON EITHER SIDE AND NOT A VERY LARGE BUILDING. LESS THAN 25,000 SQUARE FEET. LEMME SEE IF I CAN GET THIS. OH, SORRY. AND, OKAY. SO WE DID SOME BLOCK WALKING. UM, THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE OUTLINED IN BLACK, WE DID RECEIVE SUPPORT LETTERS FROM THOSE THAT I DID SEND INTO THE CITY. UM, BASICALLY THEIR OPPOSITION OR THEIR SUPPORT WAS THAT THEY WERE OPPOSED TO HAVING 25 DUPLEXES BACK HERE ON A THREE ACRE PROPERTY. AND, UH, WE'VE AGREED TO A LIST OF RESTRICTIONS. I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THOSE FOR YOU. WE'LL, WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THIS BODY TO PLACE AN NA NO ALCOHOL RESTRICTION ON THE PROPERTY JUST IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS IN THE FUTURE. AND IT IS NOT DEVELOPED AS A AUTO REPAIR FACILITY. UM, NO FREESTANDING POLE SIGNAGE, NO FLASHING SIGNAGE, NO BANNERS, PINS, TEMPORARY SIGNAGE, NO ONSITE AUTOBAR REPAIR OR PAINTING PERMITTED OUTDOORS, DOWNWARD FACING LIGHTING ONLY. NO AMPLIFIED SOUND OR SPEAKERS OUTSIDE. ALL, ALL BUILDINGS SHOULD NOT EXCEED 25 FEET IN HEIGHT AND LIMIT THE HOURS OF OPERATION FROM 8:00 AM TO 10:00 PM MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY. AND THIS IS WHAT I KINDA WANTED TO SHOW YOU. I DON'T THINK I HAVE A, A RED POINTER. DO I? I DON'T SEE IT. OKAY. UM, THAT'S THE PROPERTY OUTLINED IN BLACK. IF YOU LOOK ACROSS THE STREET, THAT'S THE MISSION OPEN AIR FLEA MARKET. IT IS, IS HUGE. AND ALL OF THE AREA ON THE OTHER SIDE TO THE WEST OF CLAMP AVENUE IS ALSO USED FOR PARKING. UM, YOU KNOW, STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL, KIND OF CENTERED ON STATING THAT THIS WOULD BE BRINGING IN A COMMERCIAL USE IN AN AREA THAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE. BUT I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS AREA IS COMMERCIAL. I MEAN, BASICALLY WE HAVE A GIANT FLEA MARKET WHERE, WHERE TRAFFIC IS REALLY BAD ON SATURDAYS. UM, THE, THE FIELD TO THE, TO THE WEST OF CLAMP STREET, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A, A TRACTOR WITH A TRAILER THAT'S LIKE SORT OF FITTED OUT AS A, UH, SMALL SHUTTLE BUS CONTRAPTION THAT THEY FERRY PEOPLE BACK AND FORTH FROM THAT FIELD PARKING TO THE, TO THE FLEA MARKET. SO I DON'T FEEL THAT A SMALL OTTAWA REPAIR FACILITY NECESSARILY IS OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WILL NOT BE AN IMPOSING COMMERCIAL USE WHEN ACROSS THE STREET WE HAVE SUCH A LARGE FLEA MARKET. UM, THAT'S BASICALLY OUR REQUEST. YOU KNOW, THE CD WOULD BE GREAT 'CAUSE THEY CAN LOCK IN THE CONDITIONS, IT CAN LOCK IN THE SITE PLAN. IF ANYTHING CHANGES IN THE FUTURE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO A, AN ADDITIONAL REZONING. AND I BELIEVE IT'S A LESS INTENSE USE SINCE WE'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE 50 APARTMENT UNITS THERE TODAY. SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I HAVE THE ENGINEER EVER GARZA AND THE OWNER JESUS TORRES AS WELL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MR. CHRISTENSEN. UH, PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. NONE, UM, HAVE SIGNED IN. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE, SO IT WILL BE TO COMMISSIONER FUENTES FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. UH, QUESTION FOR APPLICANT. PATRICK? YES, COMMISSIONER. UH, SO AS THE SITE PLAN WAS AMENDED, THE, THE STRUCTURE IS GOING TO BE A LONG BUCHANAN, IS THAT CORRECT? PARDON? THE, THE STRUCTURE, IT'S, IT'S PLANNED TO BE A LONG BUCHANAN. YES. I MEAN IT'S SORT OF AN L SHAPE THERE. UH, THAT IF YOU FLIP THIS SITE, I MEAN NORTH IS TO THE, TO THE RIGHT. SO YEAH, THE STRUCTURE WILL BASICALLY [01:00:01] FRONT A BUCHANAN WITH SOME PARKING STALLS TO, I MEAN, GARAGE BAYS TO THE REAR. OKAY. AND, UM, ON THOSE, I I MEAN EVERYTHING ELSE LOOKS ALL RIGHT. I CAN SEE WHERE STAFF, UH, COULD GET THAT ARGUMENT THAT IT IS A, A HIGHER INTENSITY FOR THIS AREA, UH, BEEN OUT IN THE AREA, UH, JUST THIS, THIS MORNING. UM, AND UH, I COULD DEFINITELY SEE HOW THIS COULD FIT IN. MY ONE CONCERN WOULD BE AROUND THE HOURS OF OPERATION. UH, I KNOW THOSE WERE DISCUSSED WITH THE COUNCIL OFFICE. UM, HOWEVER IT, I BELIEVE THAT THAT 10:00 PM IS KIND OF LATE FOR AN OPERATION OF THIS NATURE. DO YOU HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE RECOMMENDATION? I'D SAY MAYBE AN HOUR EARLIER AND DO 12 HOURS. SEVEN TO SEVEN? I THINK THAT'S FINE. YES. SEVEN TO SEVEN? YES. ALRIGHT. UM, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FUENTES. UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER WATSON QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, UH, COULD WE GET THAT LIST OF CONDITIONS UP PLEASE? UH, FROM MR. CHRISTENSEN'S PRESENTATION? WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO? UM, ALRIGHT. THERE, THERE THEY'RE, ALRIGHT. VERY GOOD. UM, COMMISSIONER FUENTES TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION I'D, UH, MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE TO APPROVE, UH, WITH THE CONDITIONS AS LISTED. AND, UH, UNDER THE, THE CONDITION AT ITEM NINE HOURS OF OPERATION SHALL BE LIMITED FROM 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM UH, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITIONS WHAT, SORRY? AND THE AMENDED SITE PLAN AND THE AMENDED SITE PLAN. FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. YES. AND THE AMENDED SITE PLAN. MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH THE AMENDED SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS AS STATED ON THE RECORD WITH THE SEVEN TO SEVEN, UH, AM TO PM MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT CHAIR. OKAY. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ IS THE SECOND. UH, ANY DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT. ALL RIGHT. MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL WITH THE AMENDED SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS AS STATED ON THE RECORD. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER FUENTES AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER LU HOLLAND? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR WITH SAMANTHA. AYE. ITEM PASSES FOR APPROVAL. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOOD LUCK. ALRIGHT, OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 15. DID YOU MEAN EIGHT? DID I MEAN EIGHT? I MIGHT'VE MEANT EIGHT. YES, I MEANT EIGHT. THANK YOU. LARGE AREA REZONING. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. BEFORE YOU BEGIN, MR. WILDER, IF YOU'D HOLD ON ONE SECOND. ALL RIGHT. THE TIME IS 2 0 4. AND LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS LEFT, UH, THE HEARING ROOM DUE TO RECUSAL. MR. WILDER, IF YOU WOULD. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. UH, FORRES WILSON, SENIOR PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. SORRY, MR. WILSON. THAT'S OKAY, NO PROBLEM. UH, SO, UH, I'M GONNA BE PRESENTING ITEM NUMBER EIGHT FOR CASE Z 2022. 1 0 7 0 0 2 2 2. THIS IS THE WEST END HOPE AND ACTION. PHASE ONE, UH, LARGE AREA REZONING. UH, THE PROJECT AREA IS IN COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE, GENERALLY LOCATED AT I 10 WEST TO THE NORTHEAST, UH, NORTH COLORADO STREET TO THE EAST LEAL STREET AND WEST POPLAR STREET TO THE SOUTH NORTH HAMILTON AVENUE AND NORTHWEST 19TH STREET TO THE WEST AND CULEBRA ROAD TO THE NORTH. UM, A BIT OF BACKGROUND. THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A RESOLUTION ON NOVEMBER 9TH, 2017, DIRECTING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO INITIATE A LARGE AREA ZONING TO APPROPRIATE ZONING DISTRICTS FOR PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE WEST END HOPE AND ACTION NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. CURRENT ZONING OF PROPERTIES, UM, CURRENT ZONING OF PROPERTIES IS A MIXTURE OF MF 33 MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. I, ONE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AND I TWO HAVE A INDUSTRIAL [01:05:01] DISTRICT. THE AREA'S PRIMARILY ZONED MF 33 MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT, BUT COMPRISED MOSTLY OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES. UH, THERE ARE NO FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS, SO NO PLAN AMENDMENTS ARE REQUIRED. UM, AND THE, UH, THE 2001 ADOPTION OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE CONVERTED ALL THE 1938 AND 1965 ZONING DISTRICTS TO THE CURRENT DISTRICTS. UH, AND THE CONVERSIONS ARE LISTED, UH, THERE, UH, ON THE POWERPOINT. AND THIS CONVERSION CREATED SOME NON-CONFORMING USES THAT DO NOT ALIGN WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE AREA. AND STAFF REVIEWED THE AREA TO MAKE APPROPRIATE ZONING RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THE CURRENT USE OF PROPERTIES AND PROPERTIES WERE REMOVED FROM THE STRATEGY IF ALREADY APPROPRIATELY ZONED. AND THIS KIND OF SHOWS THE ONE OF THE OLD FERGUSON DENI MAPS, WHICH SHOWS MOST OF THE AREA. IT WAS ZONED C FOR APARTMENT DISTRICTS IN THE 1938 CODE. UH, AND OUR CONVERSION MATRIX TO SHOW HOW IT WENT FROM C TO MF 33. AND THIS IS JUST A QUICK RECAP OF THE LARGE AREA REZONING PROCESS. WE, WE BEGAN, UH, ONCE, UH, A LARGE AREA REZONING IS INITIATED. REVIEW ALL THE PROPERTY INFORMATION, METER INFORMATION, UM, B AD PROPERTY WE REVIEW, DO A COMPLETE ZONING HISTORY, REVIEW ANY FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS, ANALYZE ALL OF THE DATA THAT WE HAVE. WE CONDUCT SITE VISITS AND CREATE MAPS, REFINE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, CONDUCT MEETINGS, TASK FORCE MEETINGS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. WE EMAIL COMMUNITY MEETING NOTICES, UH, HOLD AT LEAST TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS. UM, THE WEST END HOPE AND ACTION NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN INVOLVED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. STAFF, AGAIN, HELD TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS, DISCUSS THE PROPOSED CHANGES AND ADDITIONAL MEETINGS WERE HELD WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND INDIVIDUALS TO FURTHER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. UH, THIS IS JUST SHOWING THAT WE TYPICALLY TRY TO BE CONSISTENT WITH ANY COMMUNITY OR NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS. UH, BUT THERE ARE, THERE'S NO CURRENT PLAN IN THIS AREA RIGHT NOW. THIS PROJECT IS BEING COMPLETED IN TWO PHASES. WE ARE REVIEWING PHASE ONE TODAY. THIS IS A MAP OF THE EXISTING ZONING IN THE AREA AND ALL THE YELLOW PROPERTIES IS MF 33. THE, UH, NORTH ZAMORA STREET IS PRIMARILY ZONED I ONE AND I TWO. UH, THIS IS A MAP OF THE PROPOSED ZONING WHEN, UH, AGAIN, MOST OF THE PROPERTIES ARE RESIDENCES AND SO WE'RE REZONING TO, UM, MATCH THAT USE. UH, SOME CONDITIONAL USES WERE APPLIED FOR ONE OR TWO DWELLING UNITS WHERE APPROPRIATE. SO WE REVIEWED 1,145 PROPERTIES AND WE HAVE 1059 PROPERTIES WITH REZONING RECOMMENDATIONS. 903 PROPERTIES ARE BEING REZONED FROM MULTIFAMILY TO SINGLE FAMILY. AND 67 PROPERTIES ARE BEING REZONED FROM INDUSTRIAL TO COMMERCIAL. THIS IS A TABLE. UH, JUST SOME MORE ANALYSIS OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS SHOWING HOW MANY PROPERTIES WE ARE REZONING AND THE SPECIFIC USE THAT WE'RE REZONING 'EM TO AND AS WELL AS THE CONDITIONAL USES THERE AT THE, AT THE BOTTOM. SO THERE ARE 25 PROPERTIES WITH CONDITIONAL USES. UH, THIS IS A TABLE SHOWING THE EXISTING, UH, AND RECOMMENDED ZONING DISTRICTS THAT TO AND FROM. JUST A QUICK TIMELINE OF THE PROCESS, WE BEGAN REVIEWING PROPERTIES IN AUGUST OF 2022. WE HELD FIRST INTRODUCTION MEETINGS WITH THE WEST END, UH, HOPE AND ACTION NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ALSO IN AUGUST. TASK FORCE MEETINGS ON SEPTEMBER 28TH, TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS IN OCTOBER AND A ZONING COMMISSION BRIEFING IN, UH, NOVEMBER 15TH AND ZONING COMMISSION HERE TODAY. AND WE'RE SCHEDULED DEPENDING ON HOW IT LINKS TODAY FOR A CITY COUNCIL HEARING ON JANUARY 19TH, UH, THERE WERE 1,494 NOTICES MAILED. ONE RETURNED IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED, AND THE WEST END HOPE AND ACTION NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. WILSON. I APOLOGIZE. I KNOW A DIFFERENT FOREST WILDER AND THAT CAUSED THAT CONFUSION IN MY MIND. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? YES. WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS SIGNED UP. UH, FIRST IS MS. SUE, MS. MS SUE, UM, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE JUST SAY YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD BEFORE, UH, GIVING US YOUR OPINION. MAYA, HUGH AND I READ THAT 1 2 6 1 9 OH WEEK. NO, BUT TODAY WE TALK, IT'S REGARDING TO THE PROPERTY. 2107 WEST LAUREL. [01:10:03] YES. THIS PROPERTY, IT'S A, IT'S ALREADY DUPLEX AND SO IF WE CAN CHANGE INSTEAD R FIVE TO BE R FIVE CD AND IT'S A TWO ENTERING. OKAY. AND MA'AM, COULD YOU PLEASE RESTATE THAT, UM, ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? 2107 WEST LOWELL. OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH MA'AM. OH YES. COMMISSIONER LU HOLLAND. MS. MS. YOU, IF YOU'D WAIT ONE SECOND, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. SURE. UH, CAN YOU CONFIRM WHETHER THERE ARE ALREADY TWO UNITS ON THIS SITE? ARE THERE TWO UNITS ON THE SITE ALREADY? YES. OKAY. UH, WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE WITH R FIVE CD WITH TWO UNITS AS THE AMENDED? YES. OKAY, THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU MA'AM. ALRIGHT, NEXT PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE NEXT ONE IS MR. BALDERAS. HELLO. HI, ABEL BALDERAS. I'M HERE ABOUT 1421 STREET. I PURCHASED A PROPERTY LAST YEAR AND IT'S A DUPLEX AND I'VE SINCE DEVELOPED A STUDIO NEXT TO THE DUPLEX. SO IT'S THREE UNITS AND AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO, IT'S ZONED MF 33. I'D LIKE TO KEEP IT AS THAT BECAUSE IT HAS A LARGE LOT BEHIND IT, WHICH IS ALL PART OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH I'D LIKE TO DEVELOP MORE RENTALS BACK IN THAT AREA. AND JUST SO IF I CAN MAINTAIN THE MF 33 I'D, I'D LIKE TO DO THAT OR, ALRIGHT. SEE WHAT OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU. MR. BALDES, UM, COMMISSIONER LIA HOLLAND OR ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR MR. BALDES? YES, I HAVE. YES. UM, SO I HEARD YOU CONFIRM THAT THERE ARE THREE UNITS ON THE PROPERTY. YES MA'AM. WHERE'S THE THIRD UNIT LOCATED? TO THE WEST OF THE DUPLEX HOUSE. IT'S A STUDIO. IT'S A STUDIO? YES MA'AM. IT'S A STUDIO. IS IT A IT'S ATTACHED TO NO, IT'S SEPARATE FROM THE OKAY, OKAY. FROM THE DUPLEX. UM, WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO OUR SIX CD FOR THREE UNITS DESIGNATION OR, WELL, I LIKE TO BUILD, WE MAYBE OR DEVELOP FOUR OF THE UNITS IN THE BACK LOT. IF YOU CAN BRING A PICTURE OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY. I SENT IN SOME PHOTOS WHEN I, BY EMAIL WHEN I SENT IN MY, MY OPPOSITION AND YOU'LL SEE, UH, QUITE A LARGE PORTION ON THE BACK. SO I HAVE HAVE PLENTY OF LAND ON THE BEHIND THAT, THAT I'D LIKE TO SET UP OTHER DWELLINGS THERE I KNOWS IN THE FUTURE OR BUILD OTHERS. SO IS THERE ANOTHER BESIDES THE THREE THAT WOULD ALLOW SIX OR EIGHT UNITS? SORRY, I MAY HAVE MIS I MISHEARD SOMETHING THAT YOU SAID. UH, YOU SAID YOU WANT TO ADD MORE UNITS TO YES, MA'AM. ON THE BACK BECAUSE I HAVE SUFFICIENT LAND BEHIND, BEHIND WHERE THE PROPERTIES ARE RIGHT NOW TO ALLOW FOR THAT. AND HOW MANY UNITS WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD? FOUR TO? NO, NO MORE THAN SIX, BUT MAYBE FOUR. AT LEAST FOUR. SO, SO THEN YOU'D STILL, YOU'D, YOU WANT THE R SIX CD WITH LIMITATIONS ON THREE UNITS WOULD BE A BARRIER TO THAT. AND YOUR PREFERENCE IS FOR MF 33? YES MA'AM. 'CAUSE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD MORE? YES MA'AM. MORE UNITS ON THE LAND? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. MR. BALDEZ, UM, WHAT IS THE CURRENT ACREAGE OF THAT PROPERTY AT 1421? I DON'T KNOW THE ACREAGE. IT'S 103 BY 160. OKAY. UM, AND IT'S A CORNER LOT, IS THAT CORRECT? YES SIR. IT'S A CORNER LOT. I HAVE A PHOTO OF IT. UH, I DON'T KNOW, , IF, IF WE HAVE IT, WE'LL TRY TO GET IT UP. ALRIGHT. BUT IT'S ON THE CORNER OF LEAL AND, AND ALMANOR, IS THAT CORRECT? MURRAY? I BELIEVE IT'S NOT ALMANOR. NO, IT'S NOT ALMANOR. I'M SORRY. IT IS, UH, MURRAY STREET. IS THAT RIGHT? YES SIR. MM-HMM. . OKAY. ALRIGHT. YEAH, THERE'S A PROPERTY I GUESS RIGHT BEHIND ME AT 1502 RIVAS, I THINK IT'S RIVAS. UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST A LITTLE BIT LARGER THAN MINE. THEY HAVE A SINGLE RESIDENCE ON THAT PROPERTY AND THEY'RE NOT CHANGING THEY'RE, THEY'RE MAINTAINING THEIR MF 33. OKAY. SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT MF 33 STAFF, AND IT LOOKS LIKE HIS ACREAGE IS ABOUT 0.37, HOW MANY UNITS WOULD HE BE ABLE TO GET BY? RIGHT UNDER [01:15:01] MF 33 UP TO 12 UNITS. OKAY. AND IF WE DID IT WITH MF 18, HOW MANY UNITS WOULD HE BE ABLE TO GET UP TO? SEVEN. OKAY, SO COMMISSIONER MAGALIA, HOLLAND OR WHAT? ALRIGHT. YEAH, SO, UH, TO CLOSE THE CIRCLE I USUALLY NEED COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HERE TO DO THAT FOR ME. UM, , MR. CHAIR, CAN YOU REPEAT THE ADDRESS? I'M SORRY? WOULD YOU PLEASE REPEAT THE ADDRESS? YES. 1421 LAYAL. ALRIGHT, SO MR. BALDERAS, UH, IN LIEU OF MF 33, IF WE DID MF 18, THAT WOULD GIVE YOU, UH, SEVEN UNITS ON THAT PROPERTY, WOULD THAT BE SUFFICIENT? SO FOUR ADDITIONAL UNITS, BUT NOT 6, 4, 4 ADDITIONAL UNITS IS THERE. AND THAT SOUNDS IN LINE WITH WHAT YOU'D MENTIONED. SIR, MA'AM? PARDON ME? COMMISSIONER, I'M SORRY, I, GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER LAHAN, I THINK WHEN WE ASKED YOU FOR YOUR COUNT, THAT SOUNDED LIKE WHAT YOU HAD IN MIND. YEAH. MINIMUM FOUR, MAYBE SIX, NO MORE THAN SIX. OKAY. BUT MAYBE 84. SO IF YOU, IF YOU HAD THE RIGHT TO CREATE SEVEN UNITS, UH, WHICH WOULD BE FOUR ADDITIONAL UNITS TO WHAT YOU HAVE. RIGHT. I THOUGHT YOU WERE SAYING YOU WANTED SIX UNITS. IS THAT SIX ADDITIONAL UNITS OR RIGHT, SIX ADDITIONAL, FOUR ADDITIONAL. MAYBE IT'S A SIX ADDITIONAL. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD LET ME, YOU'D HAVE TO BE THE FOUR, RIGHT. BUT OKAY. IS THERE IF THERE'S ANOTHER MF I THINK THAT WAS MY MISUNDERSTANDING. HOW MANY TOTAL UNITS? NO MORE THAN NINE. NO MORE THAN NINE. OKAY. ALRIGHT, I THINK THAT'S IT FOR ME, COMMISSIONER LUGALIA HOLLAND, BUT THAT'S IT. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE MF 33 IS YOUR PREFERENCE. YES MA'AM. OKAY. HOW MANY, UH, STAFF? HOW MANY COULD WE DO WITH 25? NINE. NINE. OH PERFECT. PERFECT. MR BALDEZ? SIX AND THREE. YES SIR. SIX AND THREE. IT'S MATH. ALRIGHT. MF 25. SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU MR. BALDEZ. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE IS NO MORE. ALRIGHT. AND WE ARE, THE BIDDING IS NOW CLOSED LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. UM, SORRY, THERE'S A VOICEMAIL. THERE IS A VOICEMAIL. ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA GO ON AND HEAR THE VOICEMAIL AT THIS POINT. MORNING. MY NAME IS JENNIFER GARCIA NAVA. I RESIDE 1810 IN THE PHASE ONE AREA OF THE CASE NUMBER Z SLASH 2022 SLASH 1 0 7 0 0 2 2 2. UH, Y'ALL WERE HAVING A MEETING TODAY TO DISCUSS THE REZONING OF THIS AREA. UH, I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT HERE FOR OVER 20 YEARS. MY FAMILY HAS BEEN A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY DATING BACK TO THE 1930S. I HAVE REVIEWED THE LIST OF ITEMS, UH, THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING FOR REZONING IN THIS AREA AND I DO HAVE CONCERNS LOOKING AT THE LIST OF PROPOSALS FOR THE PHASE ONE AREA. IT SHOWS SIX RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH ALLOW FOR THE INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF RESIDE IN AN ALREADY FULLY ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, WHAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS, IS THIS PROPOSAL INTENDED TO ALLOW INDIVIDUAL OWNERS TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF RENTERS THEY CAN ACCOMMODATE PER LOT? OR IS IT THE CITY'S HOPE AND PLAN THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD CAN BE TARGETED BY DEVELOPERS WITH THE INTENTION OF BUILDING, UH, MULTI-FAMILY COMPLEXES? UH, IF SO, THIS WILL LEAD TO THE NEED TO REEVALUATE TRAFFIC, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND RETAIL SERVICES IN AN AREA THAT IS ALREADY HEAVILY CONCENTRATED. UM, I ALSO HAVE ANOTHER CONCERN, UH, SHOWING THAT THEY'D LIKE TO USE PROPERTIES FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICES, UH, TO BE BUILT IN THE MIDDLE OF PRIVATE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. UH, WE ALREADY HAVE A LARGE HOMELESS POPULATION, UH, THAT SET UP CAMP ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. ONE GREAT EXAMPLE IS THE DOLLAR TREE AT THE CORNER OF COLLIBRA AND ZAMORA. UM, AND MANY OTHER BUSINESSES ALONG Z UH, NORTH ZAMORA, UH, THESE ENCAMPMENTS, UH, ARE, HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED BEFORE, BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT ANYBODY IS ABLE TO ANYTHING TO BETTER THE SITUATION. UM, AND THIS HAS LED TO THE BUSINESSES, UH, BEING KEPT IN AN UNSANITARY AND UNSAFE CONDITION. IT DOESN'T. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, ALRIGHT. I THINK AT THIS POINT, UH, MR. WILSON, UNLESS YOU HAVE REBUTTAL OR ANY COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE AT THIS POINT, UH, JUST A COMMENT ON THE, THE CALLER'S INTENT OR ASSUMED INTENT TO INCREASE DENSITY OR, UH, INCREASE THE INCENTIVE FOR DEVELOPERS TO CREATE MORE APARTMENTS THAT WAS NOT THE INTENTION OF THE PROJECT OR [01:20:01] THE, UM, DESIRE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU MR. WILSON. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER LIA HOLLAND TO YOU FOR ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT. ALRIGHT, I HAVE A QUESTION. MR. WILSON. UM, SORT OF GOING ON THE CALLER'S ISSUE, THIS REMOVES 2,500 POTENTIAL UNITS, UM, FROM THE HOUSING FUTURE HOUSING STOCK. ALRIGHT. WHY IS THE CITY WHEN WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A DEARTH OF AVAILABLE HOUSING OPTIONS TAKING 2,500 UNITS OFFLINE, POTENTIAL UNITS? SURE. UH, GOOD QUESTION. THE, GOING BACK A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. SO, UM, BACK IN 2017, THE COUNCIL OFFICE WAS RECEIVING NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT THERE WERE SOME, UM, PREDATORY DEVELOPERS WHO WERE USING CODE ENFORCEMENT TO, UM, ESSENTIALLY THREATEN PEOPLE TO, UH, THAT THEY WOULD BE CALLING CODE CODE ENFORCEMENT IF THEY DIDN'T FIX UP THEIR PROPERTY OR SELL THEIR PROPERTY TO THEM TO DEVELOP FOR, UH, MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS. AND, UM, THAT IN COMBINATION WITH IT, THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE AREA THAT HAS BEEN, UM, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT, PRIMARILY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS AND SINCE THE 1930S PROMPTED UH, COUNSEL TO DIRECT US TO REVIEW PROPERTIES AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THE CURRENT USE OF PROPERTIES. THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. WILSON. ALRIGHT. UH, COMMISSIONER LILIA HOLLAND TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM, UM, AND WITH AMENDING THE PROPERTY ON 1421 AL TO MF 25 AND THE PROPERTY ON 2107 LAUREL TO R FIVE CD TWO UNITS. A MOTION FOR THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS A, OR AMENDED APPROVAL I SUPPOSE, OR AS AMENDED WITH THE AMENDMENTS. YES, WITH THE AMENDMENTS. THERE WE GO. I'LL SECOND THAT. ALRIGHT. AND COMMISSIONER BARDOS HAS SECONDED IT. UH, ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER WATSON. ALRIGHT. UH, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL WITH AMENDMENTS BY COMMISSIONER LU HOLLAND WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARROS. YES. STAFF. ONE CLARIFICATION FOR US IS STAFF WAS THE ONE PROPERTY BEING REMOVED 14 21 14 21. 1421 WAS NOT BEING REMOVED. IT WAS BEING ZONED TO MF 25. GOT YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT. WITH THAT, UH, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL, UH, WITH AMENDMENTS BY COMMISSIONER LIA HOLLAND WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER REBATO. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER LU HOLLAND? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES. AYE. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR BUSTAMANTE. AYE. ITEM PASS AS AMENDED. VERY GOOD. ALRIGHT, NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 15. AND STAFF HAS SO HOPEFUL HELPFULLY PUT THIS UP. YES. IF WE CAN GET COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE BACK. DID WE MOVE? WHERE DID HE THAT WAS A SOME NINE. IT'S LAST. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, ANN BEN'S ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER 15 IS LOCATED AT 2 6 0 2 EAST COMMERCE STREET AND IS A REQUEST TO GO FROM AE TWO TO AE TWO S WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. THERE WERE 39 NOTICES SENT WITH ZERO RETURN IN FAVORS, ZERO OPPOSED. THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FOR JEFF FROM JEFFERSON HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADV LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS. IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE CURRENT AE TWO ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT IS APPRO AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED ADDITION OF THE SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GASOLINE SALES IS ALSO APPROPRIATE. THE PROPERTY IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF A PRIMARY AND ARTERIAL STREET WITH COMMUNITY FACILITIES, COLLEGE CAMPUSES, AND A PARK IN CLOSE PROXIMITY. THE SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION ALSO REQUIRES THE PRESCRIBED SITE PLAN AND ALLOWS CONSIDERATION OF CONDITIONS WHERE NECESSARY, SUCH AS HOURS OF OPERATION, NO TEMPORARY SIGNAGE AND SCREENING BUFFERING WHERE APPROPRIATE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, IF THE APPLICANT WILL COME FORWARD, INTRODUCE YOURSELF, GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US ABOUT YOUR REZONING REQUEST PLEASE. HELLO EVERYONE, HOW ARE YOU? THIS IS GERARDO HEDA AND THE ADDRESS [01:25:01] IS 26 0 2 EAST COMMERCE. UM, IT'S FOR A CONVENIENCE STORES AND A GASOLINE STATION. SO BASICALLY I JUST TOOK THE, THE PROJECT MY, MY CLIENT NOW, UH, I HAVE TWO WEEKS WITH THIS PROJECT. I JUST TAKE IT HOW IT IS RIGHT NOW. SO I KNOW A LOT THIS AREA 'CAUSE I'M BUILD, I'M A BUILDER, ACTUALLY A BUILDER AROUND THIS AREA AND I KNOW IN FRONT OF THIS PARTICULAR LOT THERE'S, THERE WAS, UM, A CONVENIENCE STORE'S BURN. I BELIEVE SO. AND, UM, MY CLIENTS WANTS TO BUILD THIS, UM, THIS PROJECT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S, IT'S HELPFUL FOR THE, FOR EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PAR THE COLLEGE AND, AND FOR THE COMMUNITY OUT THERE. SO WE'RE ASKING FOR, FOR, UM, THE SUPPORT OF EVERYONE TO SEE IF WE CAN BUILD THIS. MM-HMM . THANK YOU MR. CARA. ALRIGHT. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE DO HAVE ONE VOICEMAIL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IF WE COULD PLAY THE VOICEMAIL PLEASE. YES. HELLO, MY NAME IS SHEIKA. MY ADDRESS IS TWO SIX TWO TWO EAST COMMERCE STREET. MY PHONE NUMBER'S (210) 865-7823 AND THE CASE NUMBER IS ENDING IN 3 1 0 SS. GOOD AFTERNOON ALL. BEFORE I MOVE INTO MY PITHY NIMBY BASED POINT OF VIEW, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A SIMPLE QUESTION. AND WHILE I'D PREFERRED TO ASK IT IN PERSON, A TUESDAY AT 1:00 PM DOESN'T PARTICULARLY ACCOMMODATE A NINE TO FIVE WORK SCHEDULE, SO PLEASE BEG PARDON. AND MY QUESTION IS THIS, WHAT EXACTLY WOULD BE THE POSITIVE OR REDEEMING VALUE OF THIS ZONING CHANGE OR PROPOSED BUILDING, UM, A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GASOLINE? A FOLLOW UP TO THIS WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY HOW DOES THIS ADD VALUE TO THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD? DOES IT ADD SOMETHING? I MEAN PRESUMABLY CULTURALLY AS THE PREVIOUS ZONING WAS ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT, UM, SUSTAINABILITY WISE, STEWARDSHIP, MENTORSHIP, FELLOWSHIP, LIKE WHAT DOES IT DO TO FURTHER DEVELOP AND OR ENRICH OUR PARTICULAR EAST SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD? FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, AS A HOMEOWNER, THE VALUE IS ZERO AND I ONLY NEED TO LOOK ACROSS THE STREET AT WHAT USED TO BE THE ARENA FOOD MART TO PROVE THAT OR WHAT IS CURRENTLY STANLEY'S ICE HOUSE. ALL OF TWO OR SO BLOCKS UP COMMERCE STREET. WHAT I CURRENTLY DON'T APPRECIATE IS THE UNSIGHTLY BURNT OUT BLIGHT OF THE ARENA FOOD MART THAT'S BEEN REPEATEDLY PICKED OVER SCAVENGED AND TAGGED. NOT TO MENTION THE DRIVERS WHO TAKE IT UPON THEMSELVES TO FOREGO THE INTERSECTION AND DRIVE THROUGH THE LOT, PUTTING PEDESTRIANS LIKE MYSELF AT RISK AT A CROSS SECTION ON STREETS WHERE PEOPLE ALREADY SPEED. WHAT I DON'T MISS AND WOULD PREFER NOT TO INVITE BACK WOULD BE PEOPLE AT ALL HOURS WITH MORE OF AN EXCUSE TO BLARE LOUD MUSIC AND DRINK ALCOHOL. IS THAT TRUE? THAT IS IT FOR, OKAY. UM, MR. GARA BRIEF REBUTTAL IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THOSE. IF NOT, WE CAN GO TO QUESTIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS IS A DISTRICT TWO CASE, UH, COMMISSIONER WATSON TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. UH, CAN I PLEASE CALL THE APPLICANT FORWARD? YES. UH, CAN YOU PLEASE ELABORATE ON ANY ADDITIONAL EFFORTS THAT YOU MADE TO DO COMMUNITY OUTREACH SPECIFICALLY TO THE NEIGHBORS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY? IF I WHAT? I'M SORRY. SO WHAT DID YOU DO TO REACH OUT TO NEIGHBORS AS YOU SEEK THIS ZONING CHANGE? UH, I, UH, LIKE I SAY, PREVIOUSLY I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING 'CAUSE I JUST TOOK THIS, UH, PROJECT LIKE TWO WEEKS AGO. UM, I BELIEVE MY, MY CLIENT, WHICH IS HERE, UH, MR. GARZA, UM, HE HIRED SOMEBODY ELSE, BUT THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING. SO I JUST TOOK OVER THIS PROJECT, LIKE I SAY, UH, AT LEAST TWO WEEKS AGO. UM, I DON'T KNOW, WE CAN LIKE JUST, UM, DO SOME WHAT I NEED TO DO TO FOLLOW THIS PROJECT. OKAY. AND THEN I, I KNOW WE HAVE A LETTER FROM DENVER HEIGHTS. DID YOU ATTEMPT TO REACH THE JEFFERSON HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AS WELL? ON, ON MY END, NO. HE MAKE SOME CALLS BUT HE DIDN'T EVER, UH, GET ANSWER ON IT. OKAY. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR APPLICANT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMISSIONER WATSON. UM, COMMISSIONERS TO MY WRIGHT QUESTIONS COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER [01:30:01] WHITE DID, DID DENVER HEIGHTS OPPOSE IT? DENVER HEIGHTS STAFF IS, THEY'RE IN SUPPORT. THEY'RE IN SUPPORT, YEAH. OKAY. SO DENVER HEIGHTS IS IN SUPPORT AND WE HAVE ONE VOICEMAIL AGAINST IT. RIGHT? THAT IS A UH, ACCURATE SUMMARY. GOOD SUMMARY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, VERY WELL. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER WATSON TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION. ALRIGHT, WELL I REALIZE WE HAVE ONE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT HAS SENT IN A LETTER OF SUPPORT AND WE ONLY HAVE ONE VOICEMAIL AND OPPOSITION. I THINK THE APPLICANT HAS MADE IT QUITE CLEAR THAT THERE HAS NOT BEEN A LOT OF EFFORT DONE AT COMMUNITY OUTREACH, UH, ESPECIALLY TO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS WITHIN 200 FEET. MM-HMM AS WE KNOW IN DISTRICT TWO IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO DO COMMUNITY OUTREACH UNLESS YOU DO IT INTENTIONALLY. AND WE HAVE SUCCESSFULLY FOR MANY, MANY CASES IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS SUPPORTED APPLICANTS FROM THE COUNCIL OFFICE AND THROUGH MY SUPPORT IN GETTING FEEDBACK FROM NEIGHBORS AND HAVE PROVIDED SOME GUIDELINES ON HOW TO DO THAT AND ARE HAPPY TO HELP. UM, TO ECHO SOME OF THE THINGS SAID IN THE VOICEMAIL, UM, GAS STATIONS BECAUSE THEY ARE THERE OR HAVE BEEN THERE PREVIOUSLY DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE NEED MORE OF THEM IN THE EAST SIDE. UM, IT'S A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF SAYING, OH, THE EAST SIDE NEEDS DEVELOPMENT AND IT BEING DEVELOPMENT THAT DOESN'T ACTUALLY ADVANCE THE COMMUNITY IN ANY WAY. MM-HMM. . UM, IN RECENT REGIONAL PLANNING AND NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS, WE'VE CONSISTENTLY MENTIONED THAT WE NEED MORE FOOD ACCESS, WALKABILITY, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, ANY KIND OF BUSINESS THAT IS LOCALLY OWNED AND INCREASES JOBS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR MULTIPLE PEOPLE, NOT ONE BUSINESS OWNER. AND, UH, THE IMPORTANCE OF CORRIDOR REVITALIZATION, A GAS STATION DOES NONE OF THESE THINGS. UH, WHILE THERE ARE OTHER USES IN THE AREA SUCH AS COLLEGE CAMPUSES, PARKS, I SPEND A GREAT DEAL OF TIME ON THIS CORNER AS CLAUDE BLACK IS JUST DOWN THE STREET WHERE I SPEND MANY HOURS OF MY TIME. THIS IS PER, THIS IS PERHAPS NOT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE TO SERVE ALL OF THOSE COMMUNITY SERVICES. THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY HERE WITH THE CURRENT AE ZONING FOR SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, THAT WOULD BE A GROCERY STORE, A PLACE FOR CULTURAL ENTERTAINMENT, UM, ANY OTHER KIND OF BUSINESS THAT PROMOTES JOBS. THERE ARE MANY OPTIONS HERE AND A GAS STATION PERHAPS IS NOT THE BEST ONE. ADDITIONALLY, THIS COMMISSION IN ADDITION TO STAFF SUPPORTED A U D C AMENDMENT EARLIER THIS YEAR TO TRY AND MINIMIZE GAS STATIONS BEING CLOSE TO OR ABUTTING RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS AND CREATING DISTANCE FROM RESIDENTIAL AREAS. UH, THIS IS LITERALLY ADJACENT TO TWO HOMES ON THE CORNER PROPERTY LINES AND IS NOT IN THE SPIRIT OF THAT AMENDMENT. UM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT MY DISTRICT HEAVILY CHAMPIONED THIS U D C AMENDMENT AND IT WAS BROUGHT FORTH BY RESIDENTS FROM OUR AREA. UM, SO FOR ALL OF THOSE REASONS I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE SUPPORTING THIS CASE TODAY. I DO WANNA GIVE THE APPLICANT CONSIDERING SOME OF THE CHALLENGES. THEY'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND WE WILL DEFINITELY SUPPORT YOU IN TRYING TO DO THAT. UM, BUT WITH THAT I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS CASE FOR ONE MONTH, UH, TO OUR JANUARY 17TH MEETING. SOUNDS GOOD. I'D SECOND THAT. ALRIGHT. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES. MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO ONE MONTH TO JANUARY 17TH. UH, QUESTIONS COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT. QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? WAIT, ARE WE IN COMMENTS? OH, SORRY. COMMENTS. EXCUSE ME. I HAVE A QUESTION ACTUALLY, SO I'M GONNA ASK A QUESTION. ALRIGHT. IF THE U D C AMENDMENTS COME INTO PLAY AT THIS POINT, WHAT IMPACT WILL THAT HAVE ON THIS APPLICATION AS WE TURN OVER THE CALENDAR FROM 2022 TO 2023? WELL, THE CODE AMENDMENTS ARE EFFECTIVE JANUARY ONE, SO THE PROJECT WILL BE SUBJECT TO THOSE U D C AMENDMENTS THAT WERE MADE AND THAT WILL GO INTO EFFECT JANUARY ONE. OKAY. 2023. BUT UNDER AE TWO, IS THIS STILL A SPECIFIC USE THAT'S ALLOWABLE UNDER THE AMENDED CODE FOR 2023? YES SIR. YES SIR. OKAY. MM-HMM. , THAT'S, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WEREN'T WALKING HIM DOWN THE PRIMROSE PATH AS NO, AND WE HAVE INDICATED TO THEM THAT THEY ARE, THERE ARE THOSE CODE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE DONE REGARDING THE GAS TANKS BEING IN A CERTAIN LOCATION, SO THEY ARE AWARE OF THAT AS WELL. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, ONE SECOND. UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER'S ON MY LEFT? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE. SORRY. YES, THANKS. UM, SO RESPECTFULLY, UM, TO, UH, THE COMMISSIONER FROM DISTRICT TWO, UM, I'M NOT GONNA BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION. UM, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS CASE, ALL THE PROPER NOTICES WERE GIVEN TO EVERYBODY IN THE 200, UH, FOOT AREA. UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THERE SUPPORTS IT. WE HAVE ONE PERSON THAT HAS, UH, TAKEN THE TIME TO SPEAK UP AGAINST IT. I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S FOR US AS ZONING COMMISSIONERS UP HERE TO DECIDE WHAT, UM, UM, [01:35:02] IS BEST TO BE IN THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF LAND OR NOT. UM, WE'RE HERE TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT, UH, THE PROPOSED REZONING IS, UH, PERMISSIBLE OR APPROPRIATE, UM, BASED ON LAND USE CONSIDERATIONS, NOT WHAT WE WOULD WANT IN, IN THE PARTICULAR SPOT OR NOT. AND SO, UM, I CAN'T SUPPORT THE MOTION I THINK THIS APPLICANT HAS DONE, UM, WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO, THE PROPER NOTICES HAS BEEN GIVEN. HE PRESENTED HIS CASE TODAY, STAFF'S IN FAVOR OF APPROVING, UH, THIS APPLICATION. UM, AND I'M AS WELL SO I WON'T BE SUPPORTING, UH, THE MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WHITE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONS TO MY LEFT COMMISSIONER. UH, THANK YOU CHAIR. I ACTUALLY WON'T BE SUPPORTING IT EITHER. UM, BEING THAT I DRIVE TO THIS AREA QUITE A BIT TO, YOU KNOW, AT AND T CENTERS ABOUT IN LESS THAN A MILE AND A HALF FROM THERE, UM, LATE AT NIGHT, I'M COMING BACK TO 35. THERE'S A REALLY LOT OF HARD AREAS TO FIND, UH, GASOLINE OR SO YOU'RE STUCK DRIVING INTO ALMOST TO THE OTHER SIDE OF UM, I 10. SO I DO FIND, SEE THAT THIS WOULD ACTUALLY SERVE THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE LATE AT NIGHT YOU'RE ACTUALLY STUCK ALMOST DRIVING TWO, THREE TO ALMOST FOUR MILES OUT OF THE AREA JUST TO GET GAS. AND IF YOU'RE RUNNING OUTTA GAS THAT LIKE ME SOMETIMES, UM, THAT CAN BE A PROBLEM. SO, UM, AGAIN, I DON'T FEEL LIKE I COULD SUPPORT THIS AND I DO FEEL THAT AS A ZONING PROJECT THAT THIS FITS THE ZONING AREA OF, OF THIS, OF THAT, OF THE, THE LOCATION. SO THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ORTIZ COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT DISCUSSION. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER WATSON, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? UH, YEAH, JUST TO COMMENT, I APPRECIATE BOTH COMMISSIONER WHITE AND COMMISSIONER ORTIZ'S POINTS. UM, BUT I WILL AGAIN REITERATE REFLECTING UM, WHAT HAS BEEN SAID IN THE OPPOSITION VOICEMAIL. WHO IS THE DEVELOPMENT SERVING? IF YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH THE COMMUNITY, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL GAS STATIONS, BUT THIS PROPERTY IS, WHILE IT'S ON AN ARTERIAL, DOES DIRECTLY ABUT SEVERAL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. SO THOSE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE TO LIVE THERE ALL OF THE TIME ARE GONNA BE IN IMPACTED BY THESE SAFETY ISSUES AND THE TRAFFIC THAT COMES FROM THIS GAS STATION. AND THAT IS A CONCERN. ADDITIONALLY, THE CURRENT A E TWO LAND USE WHICH EXISTS DOES ALLOW FOR A VARIETY OF USES THAT CAN ENHANCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I DO NOT FEEL THAT A GAS STATION IS AN APPROPRIATE LAND USE NEXT TO TWO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, EVEN IF IT'S ON AN, A MAIN ARTERIAL, UH, INTERSECTION, UM, WITH SOME OF THE OTHER SERVICES IN THE AREA. SO AGAIN, EVEN THOUGH I MADE SOME ADDITIONAL STATEMENTS, THIS IS A LAND USE ISSUE, YOU ARE STILL ABUTTING TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY LIVE THERE AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE. AGAIN, I PROVIDED THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE AND MAKE SURE THEY DO COMMUNITY OUTREACH. I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT OUR COUNCILMAN, UM, WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE EVIDENCE OF SUPPORT THAT IS, AND YOU'VE MADE AN EFFORT TO DO THAT, WHICH WAS NOT THE CASE HERE. UM, I KNOW THAT'S NOT THE SAME IN ALL, ALL THE OTHER DISTRICTS, BUT IT IS A PRIORITY FOR US. UM, AND SO FOR THOSE REASONS, I'M GOING TO ONCE AGAIN RESTATE MY MOTION, UH, FOR CONTINUANCE TO THE JANUARY 17TH PERIOD. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH COMMISSIONER WATSON. UM, FOR MY COMMENTS, UH, I UNDERSTAND AND, AND TO GREAT, TO A GREAT DEGREE, AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER ORTIZ AND COMMISSIONER WHITE. UM, BUT THAT BEING SAID MM-HMM , THIS ONE MONTH CONTINUANCE, WHICH I WILL SUPPORT, GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO REACH OUT, REACH OUT TO THOSE PEOPLE ON COMMERCE, REACH OUT TO THOSE PEOPLE ON MONTA, MONTANA AND GET THEIR BUY-IN BECAUSE I THINK AS COMMISSIONER WATSON STATED TWICE BEFORE, AND YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD FROM OTHER DISCUSSIONS OF PREVIOUS CASES MM-HMM , THAT KIND OF BUY-IN IS SOMETHING THAT IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO THIS PROCESS. MM-HMM. . SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO THAT DURING THIS ONE MONTH. SHOULD THE MOTION PASS? ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS FOR CONTINUANCE TO JANUARY 17TH FOR ITEM NUMBER 15 BY COMMISSIONER WATSON WITH A SECOND BY SECOND. OH UH, FUENTES. SORRY, IT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES. MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT THAT I SHOULD HAVE ASKED FIVE MINUTES AGO? SURE. UH, IF YOU DON'T MIND. HEY LISTEN, WE'RE, WE'RE ALL A LITTLE BIT OFF TODAY SO YEAH. OR AT LEAST I AM SO I'LL, I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU. YOU KNOW, MAYBE I MISSED SOMETHING BUT THIS IS ALSO GOOD FOR THE RESIDENTS. ARE YOU GOING TO SELL THE BASICS? MILK, BREAD, EGGS AND LIKE A YEAH, THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO MAKE SURE. I GUESS IT, TO ME IT'S A CONVENIENT BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA AND I KNOW A FEW FRIENDS IN THAT AREA DON'T HAVE CARS SO THEY ACTUALLY WALK UH, TO THE H E B OR OTHER CONVENIENCE STORES. SO THIS WILL BE A REALLY GOOD BENEFIT FOR THEM. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMISSIONER MODELS. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME THE MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE TO THE JANUARY 17TH MEETING FOR ITEM NUMBER 15 BY COMMISSIONER WATSON WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES. ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES. AYE. COMMISSIONER [01:40:01] KAMATH? NO. COMMISSIONER WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? NO. COMMISSIONER BARROS? NO. COMMISSIONER WHITE? NO. COMMISSIONER LU HOLLAND? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. ITEM PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. MAKE SURE YOU REACH OUT THERE. GOOD LUCK TO YOU. ALRIGHT, AT THIS TIME IT'S A LITTLE EARLY BUT WE ARE GONNA GO AHEAD AND TAKE A BRIEF FIVE MINUTE BREAK BEFORE WE HEAD ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE. UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UH, PLEASE BE BACK IN APPROXIMATELY FIVE MINUTES. TIME IS 2 41 AND WE ARE IN RECESS. ALRIGHT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN AND IN PARTICULAR COMMISSIONERS IF YOU WOULD PLEASE RESUME YOUR SEATS. WHO DID THIS? SO SHE'S TAKING GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS ANN BEES ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER NINE IS LOCATED AT 4 5 4 EAST HILDEBRAND AVENUE AND IS A REQUEST TO GO FROM R FIVE TO I D Z TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. THERE WERE 18 NOTICES MAILED WITH ONE RETURN IN FAVOR TO AN OPPOSITION AND MONTEVISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED OUTSIDE 200 FEET. THERE WERE 52 RETURN IN FAVOR WITH 40 AND 40 RETURN IN OPPOSITION. STAFF DOES FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. WHILE THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA, THE PROPOSED DENSITY IS OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES THE SIZE AND LOT PLACEMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING LOTS THAT ACCOMMODATE ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL DENSITY. HOWEVER, THE PROPOSED IDZ TWO MEDIUM DENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT WITH USES PERMITTED FOR 14 DWELLING UNITS IS NOT APPROPRIATE. THERE ARE NO PROPERTIES IN PROXIMITY THAT ACCOMMODATE THIS MANY UNITS AND THE PROPERTY PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN IMMEDIATE PROXIMITY ARE SINGLE FAMILY. THE PROPERTY IS FRONTING A SECONDARY ARTERIAL AND IS DIRECTLY ABUTTING. TRINITY UNIVERSITY RESIDENTIAL INFILL DENSITY IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY. CONSIDERING THESE FACTORS AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THE SUBJECT, PROPERTY STAFF CAN SUPPORT A TOTAL OF SIX DWELLING UNITS. THIS ALTERNATIVE RECOMMENDATION ALIGNS WITH THE GOALS AND OBJECTIONS OBJECTIVES OF THIS STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN TO INCREASE HOUSING STOCK FOR GROWING NEEDS IN THE CITY WHILE OFFERING A DENSITY MORE IN LINE WITH THE ALREADY EXISTING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION FOR I D Z ONE LIMITED INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR SIX DWELLING UNITS. THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE WENT BACK INTO SESSION AT 2 51 AND IF THE APPLICANT WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD, INTRODUCE YOURSELF, GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US ABOUT THIS REZONING REQUEST PLEASE. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. MY NAME IS BEN BOWMAN. UM, I'M AN APP, I'M THE APPLICANT. I'M ONE OF THE ARCHITECTS ON THIS PROJECT AND I LIVE AT 4 1 4 CHADWELL DRIVE. UM, I THINK THIS WILL BE A LONG HEARING AND FIRST I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE IN THE ROOM FOR YOUR TIME 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF HUMAN CAPITAL GOING INTO THIS SMALL PROPOSAL AND WE APPRECIATE THAT EVERYONE'S SPENDING THE TIME TO DO IT. UM, SO WE'LL JUMP RIGHT INTO THE PRESENTATION. UH, IS THERE A WAY TO PRESENT FULL SCREEN? ANNE, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS IS A QUICK REFERENCE MAP TO SHOW YOU THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THIS IS THE LAST LOT ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE MONTE VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD BOUNDARY AND ABUTS TRINITY UNIVERSITY'S NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT WHERE ADJACENT TO THEIR NEW HUMANITIES BUILDING, DICKIE HALL, WHICH IS A INSTITUTIONAL LAKE PLATO BUILDING, WHICH IS QUITE LOVELY, QUITE LARGE. UM, WE'RE ON HILDEBRAND JUST WEST OF US 2 81 ON AN ARTERIAL STREET. THIS IS A QUICK IMAGE OF THE LOT. IT'S QUITE LARGE. THIS IS 0.6 ACRES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. IT'S A GREENFIELD SITE. IT HAS NEVER BEEN DEVELOPED. IT'S IN THE ORIGINAL 1928 PLAQUE CONFIGURATION. SO THIS IS HOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED. WE'RE ALSO ON HILDEBRAND, WHICH HAS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, WHICH IS A CONCERN ON BOTH THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SIDES OF THE PROPERTY LINE. THERE ARE ABOUT 20,000 CARS A DAY IN FRONT OF THE SITE AND SOMEBODY IS DRIVING 43 MILES AN HOUR ON A PRETTY REGULAR BASIS. WE'RE VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT DYNAMIC. UH, THIS IS SOME OF THE IMMEDIATE CONTEXT. THE TOP LEFT IS DICKIE HALL I JUST REFERENCED. THE TOP CENTER IS THE HOUSE IMMEDIATELY WEST OF US, WHICH IS LARGELY CHARACTERISTIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S A 5,500 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE AND THE NEXT TWO HOUSES OVER OUR 1981 SUBDIVISION. AND THEN JUST DOWN THE STREET WE'VE GOT AN MF 50 PROJECT. [01:45:01] WE ALSO HAVE MF 50 PROJECTS THE OTHER DIRECTION DOWN THE STREET. AND ATYPICAL PARKING CONFIGURATIONS ARE VERY COMMON ON THIS BLOCK OF HILDEBRAND BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC SCENARIO I JUST MENTIONED. WE'RE ALSO ACROSS THE STREET IN CATTYCORNER FROM A 16,000 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY HOME. SO THIS IS A VERY TRANSITIONAL AREA. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CONTINUITY AND IT'S NOT LARGELY REPRESENTATIVE OF MOST OF WHAT MONTE VISTA IS. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. THIS IS A 0.6 ACRE LOT. IT'S THE LARGEST LOT ON THE BLOCK AND IT'S ONE OF THE LARGEST LOTS IN ALL OF MONTE VISTA. WE'RE PROPOSING 14 DWELLING UNITS. THIS IS ALL MISSING MIDDLE RENTAL HOUSING. THAT LEVEL OF DENSITY WOULD BE EQUIVALENT TO AN MF 25 LEVEL OF DENSITY WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT LATER. THIS IS TECHNICALLY TWO BUILDINGS, IT'S THREE BUILDING MASSES TO HELP REDUCE THAT IMPACT TO THE STREETSCAPE. WE'RE PROPOSING A MAXIMUM OF 10,800 SQUARE FEET OF NEW CONSTRUCTION AND WE HAVE FULLY SCREENED PARKING AT THE CODE STANDARD 1.5 SPACES PER UNIT. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO COME BACK TO THIS AND TALK MUCH MORE ABOUT DESIGN IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME AND I DON'T WANNA WASTE YOURS. THIS SHOWS HOW THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE SITE, WHICH IS 12 FEET OVER ITS LENGTH, GOES TO GREAT EFFECT WITH THE DESIGN THAT WE'VE PROPOSED. MUCH OF THE PARKING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO SEE FROM THE STREET BECAUSE OF THE WAY WE'RE USING THAT GRADING. THIS PROPOSAL FOLLOWS THAT EXISTING GRADING. WE ALSO REALLY CARE DEEPLY ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT PLACE FOR IT, BUT WE'D BE HAPPY TO TALK MORE. I KNOW WE TOUCHED ON PERVIOUS COVER EARLIER, BUT WE ARE TRYING TO SET A NEW BAR FOR HOW YOU CAN DO THESE PROJECTS AND HANDLE THESE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES. HILDEBRAND DRAINS STRAIGHT TO ALMOST BASIN IN A FLOOD EVENT HERE AND WE'RE SUPER SENSITIVE TO THAT. SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO DECREASE THE UNMITIGATED RUNOFF FROM THE CURRENT SITE CONDITION, WHICH IS AN INCREDIBLY HIGH BAR TO SET AND IT SOUNDS UNREASONABLE BUT THAT IS ABSOLUTELY THE ASPIRATION OF THIS PROJECT. UM, WE'VE BEEN REALLY FORTUNATE TO HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH SIMILAR LEVELS OF COMPLICATION ON A SMALL PROJECT. I MEAN ULTIMATELY WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE IS INCREDIBLY COMPLEX BUT WE'VE PROVEN THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO IT BEFORE IN A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD AND DO A GREAT JOB THAT OUR PEERS HAVE DEEMED TO BE QUALITY WORK. THIS IS A QUICK FIGURE GROUND STUDY OF THE SITE. OUR SITE IS SHOWN IN THE BLUE RECTANGLE CURRENT CONDITION AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED CONDITION THAT'S THE FOOTPRINT OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO WITH THIS PROJECT. THIS SHOWS A QUICK LOOK AT THE ZONING MAP, BUT I KNOW THAT WE'RE THESE DAYS TALKING A LOT ABOUT LARGE AREA REZONINGS WHICH REALLY COLORS THE WAY THESE MAPS LOOK. SO I'VE TAKEN THE LIBERTY OF ANNOTATING THIS EXISTING ZONING MAP TO SHOW THE TRUE ON GROUND CONDITION. OUR SITE SHOWN IN YELLOW AGAIN, WE'RE PROPOSING AN MF 25 LEVEL OF DENSITY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE IMAGES ON THE TOP, THE FIRST THREE ARE FOUR TRIPLEXES OWNED BY THE SAME OWNER ON THREE ADJACENT LOTS. THAT'S A 12 PLEX AND IT'S MF 33 LEVEL DENSITY. THE NEXT BUILDING SOUTH ON SHOOK IS A FOUR UNIT MF 25 LEVEL DENSITY PROJECT. THE NEXT BUILDING SOUTH IS A FIVE UNIT MF 18 AND THEN JUST BELOW THAT IS A 16 UNIT MF 33 APARTMENT COMPLEX. MONTE VISTA WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED AT A TIME WHERE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING WASN'T MISSILE MISSING AND WE THINK THAT THIS IS THE PERFECT SITE TO REINTRODUCE SOME OF THOSE OPTIONALITIES WE'VE TAKEN AWAY OVER THE LAST A HUNDRED YEARS. WE UNDERSTAND THAT NEIGHBORHOODS CHANGE AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT, BUT WE THINK THE ARTERIAL STREET NATURE AND TWO BORDERING PROPERTY LINES WITH A LARGE MIXED USE INSTITUTION COMPLETELY MERIT A MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING OPTION. HERE WE'RE ALSO QUITE NEARBY TO THE SUNSHINE COTTAGE, WHICH IS ANOTHER TYPE OF INSTITUTIONAL USE. WE ARE WORKING REALLY CLOSELY WITH YOUR PARALLEL COMMISSION, THE HISTORIC DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION. WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM THROUGH THEIR DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE SUBCOMMITTEE AND ALL CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN QUITE POSITIVE. I'LL LEAVE IT TO SAY THAT WE CARE DEEPLY ABOUT DESIGN AND WE'RE VERY MUCH IN TUNE WITH THAT REVIEW PROCESS AND WHAT THE CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS ARE FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION AND HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HANG OUR HAT ON GREAT QUALITY BUILDINGS IN GREAT QUALITY DESIGN. I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION BRIEFLY, WHICH I THINK IS VERY HELPFUL AND FAIR. I THINK THAT'S A FAIR ASSESSMENT. UM, I THINK TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AN I D Z ONE ZONING WOULD BE APPROPRIATE ON THIS SITE IS QUITE HELPFUL AND I THINK WE'RE IN FULL AGREEMENT ABOUT THAT. SO REALLY THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS THIS MEASURE OF DENSITY. AND I AM ALWAYS ON MY SOAPBOX THAT DENSITY CAN BE MEASURED IN QUITE A VARIETY OF WAYS. IN OUR CITY WE TYPICALLY DO UNITS PER ACRE. OTHER CITIES OFTEN DO FLOOR AREA RATIOS, WHICH IS A MEASURE OF HOW MUCH STUFF ARE YOU PUTTING ON THE SITE. SO THE TOTAL 14 HOUSEHOLDS WE'RE PROPOSING TO PROVIDE HERE IS SMALLER THAN THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME ACROSS THE STREET IN AGGREGATE. AND WE'RE DESIGNING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT HANGING OUR HAT ON THE AFFORDABILITY PIECE BUT WE'RE DESIGNING 500, 5 50, 630 SQUARE FOOT UNITS AND THAT'S SPECIFICALLY TO BAKE IN THAT ACCESSIBILITY FROM AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT INTO THIS PROJECT. SO NO, NO MATTER WHAT OR WHO, IF IT'S A 500 SQUARE FOOT UNIT, IT PROBABLY HAS A ONE CAR HOUSEHOLD AND IT'S PROBABLY MUCH MORE ATTAINABLE PRICED THAN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT YOU [01:50:01] HAVE TO GET A FANNIE OR FREDDIE MORTGAGE TO BUY. I'D LIKE TO JUST RUN THROUGH SOME OF THE ADVANTAGES TO THIS PROPOSAL. SO THIS IS A VERY SITE SPECIFIC DESIGN. THIS IS NOT A STANDARD R FIVE LOT. THIS RESPECTS THE UNCHARACTERISTICALLY LARGE 70 FOOT FRONT SETBACK. IT MAINTAINS A PARK-LIKE PRESENTATION TO HILDEBRAND. IT PRESENTS SCALE APPROPRIATE MASKING TO THE STREET AND VEHICLES ARE ENTIRELY CONCEALED DESPITE THIS PROJECT'S ARTERIAL FRONTAGE. THIS IS A CAR BASED BLOCK AND WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO HIDE ALL THE CARS. THE TRAFFIC SYSTEM IS ALSO VERY SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. UH, THERE'S ALSO IMPORTANT SOCIOECONOMIC ADVANTAGES HERE AND THIS IS REALLY WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO FOCUS OUR WORK. SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO JUST BUILD ANYTHING THAT'LL MAKE A DOLLAR. WE'RE REALLY GOOD AT ONE LITTLE TINY SPECIFIC THING AND IT'S THIS, THIS IS MISSING MIDDLE RENTAL HOUSING. THERE ARE MODEST ATTAINABLE UNIT SIZES. THIS IS ABOUT LOCATION EQUITY AND IT ENABLES MORE ACCESS TO THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, IT'S AN UNDERREPRESENTED HOUSING OPTION. YOUR JOBS AND PUBLIC TRANSIT AND THERE'S A STRONG FOCUS ON SUSTAINABILITY. SORRY, WE KNOW WE HAVE THESE MACRO LEVEL ISSUES AND IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO SUGGEST THAT OUR 14 UNIT PROB PROJECT COULD SOLVE THEM. BUT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO SET A STANDARD AND A GOOD EXAMPLE ABOUT HOW WE CAN GO ABOUT TACKLING THESE THINGS. WE LIVE IN A BIFURCATED HOUSING ENVIRONMENT. THERE ARE LOTS OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND LOTS OF VERY LARGE APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND THE REASON NOTHING HAPPENS IN BETWEEN IS 'CAUSE IT'S INCREDIBLY HARD. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO ACHIEVE WITH THIS PROJECT IS JUST AS HARD AS THAT 300 UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING AND ALSO WE DON'T HAVE ANY ZONING CATEGORIES TO ACCOMMODATE THAT. THERE'S NO MISSING MIDDLE ZONING. SO WE COME TO YOU ASKING FOR THE BEST APPROXIMATION OF THAT, WHICH IS ID Z TWO FOR 14 DWELLING UNITS. AND I WILL GO FURTHER TO SAY THAT THE SA TOMORROW PLAN'S CLEARLY ALIGNED WITH TRYING TO SOLVE THESE THINGS AND WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO TRY AND HELP. AND IN THIS I D Z SITE PLAN, WE'VE TRIED TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THE THRESHOLD OF PROMISING. SO ANNE, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS COMPLIANT, BUT WE'VE TRIED TO CAP OUT OUR MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE AND SOME OTHER SETBACK METRICS TO ENSURE THAT THIS PLAN WILL NOT ACCOMMODATE AN A MINOR OR MAJOR PLAN CHANGE THAT UNDERCUTS THAT PHILOSOPHY. AND IF YOU COULD ZOOM IN ON THAT AND ALSO LET US KNOW IF IT'S CONFORMING TO THE STANDARDS OF THE PLAN, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. BUT THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. I'M HAPPY TO GO BACK LATER AND I KNOW THIS WILL BE A LONG HEARING SO I'M OPEN TO YOU. THANK YOU MR. BOWMAN. ALRIGHT, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? ? WE DO HAVE UH, A MULTITUDE OF VOICEMAILS ALONG WITH UH, FOLKS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP. I WILL SAY THERE ARE THREE FOLKS THAT I HAVE SIGNED UP THAT I BELIEVE LEFT A VOICEMAIL AS WELL. SO JUST TO REDUCE. ALRIGHT. UH, DO WE KNOW THOSE THREE PEOPLE? UM, CAN WE SAY IT AGAIN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. I DO HAVE A MS. KATHY KENNEDY. I BELIEVE YOU HAD LEFT A VOICEMAIL AS WELL. MS. KENNEDY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE YOUR VOICEMAIL PLAYED OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? IT DEPENDS ON HOW EMBARRASSMENT MIGHT BE. , UH, THAT IS ENTIRELY UP TO YOU. WE CAN'T FORCE YOU SPEAK. OKAY THEN NO VOICEMAIL FOR MS. KENNEDY. UM, I ALSO HAVE A VOICEMAIL FROM MS. ANN VAN PELT. MS. VAN PELT SPEAK. SPEAK. YOU'D RATHER SPEAK. OKAY, SPEAK. VERY GOOD. AND THEN ALSO I HAD A VOICEMAIL FROM MR. RICK WILSON, MR. WILSON SPEAK AS WELL. ALRIGHT. OKAY, SO WE'RE BACK TO 37 VOICEMAILS. UH 30, YES. 34. YES. WELL IT WAS OVERALL 40 VOICEMAILS WITH THOSE THREE REMOVED. YES. 37 VOICEMAILS RIGHT BACK. 37. LET'S BEGIN. WE WILL DO, UH, SPEAKING AFTERWARDS. AND, AND WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR THAT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WANT TO GIVE YOUR TIME TO SOMEONE ELSE, YOU CAN GIVE YOUR TIME, UH, TO ONE SPEAKER FOR UP TO SIX MINUTES SO TWO PEOPLE CAN GIVE THEIR TIME TO ANOTHER SPEAKER, BUT YOU'LL BE CAPPED OUT AT SIX MINUTES. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND PLEASE SAY THAT BEFORE THE SPEAKER GETS UP HERE. NOW WE CAN DO THE VOICEMAILS. A L L I S O N STOCKER, S T O C K E R. MY ADDRESS IS 1 3 6 WEST GRAMERCY PLACE, SEVEN EIGHT TWO ONE TWO. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 736-5754. AND I'M CALLING TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I OPPOSE THE ZONING CASE NUMBER Z DASH 2022 DASH 0 7 0 2 8 1 REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT AT 4 54 EAST HILDEBRAND AVENUE. UM, I THINK IT'S NOT FITTING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT ALL AND WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM THE REST OF MONTE VISTA AND UM, UH, IT DOESN'T, IT IT WOULDN'T BE PART OF THE [01:55:01] HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BYE. HELLO, THIS IS ALYSSA CILLO LOCATED AT 9 0 5 WEST AGARITA, CASE NUMBER Z DASH 2 0 22 DASH 0 7 0 2 81. AND I AM OPPOSING THE CHANGE IN ZONING. UM, I LIVE IN THE AREA, WE'VE CONTINUALLY HAD ISSUES WITH DEVELOPERS COMING IN AND MOST OF OUR NEIGHBORS ARE BEING PUSHED OUT BECAUSE OF THESE ISSUES. NOW PEOPLE AREN'T BEING ABLE TO AFFORD TAXES. I'VE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MY ENTIRE LIFE. I AM 35. MY PARENTS LIVED HERE BEFORE AND MY, A LOT OF MY FAMILY CAN'T EVEN LIVE HERE BECAUSE OF THESE ISSUES. THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE NEED TO BE INCREASING, UM, THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA WHERE WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT HOW WE'RE DISPLACING OTHERS. I'M COMPLETELY OPPOSED TO THIS AND UNHAPPY THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS AMANDA RIVERA. UH, I LIVE AT 7 0 3 SHOOK AVENUE. THAT'S IN MONTE VISTA, SEVEN EIGHT TWO ONE TWO. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 559-4993. AND I'M CALLING IN REGARDS TO CASE, UH, LAST THREE DIGITS 2 8 1. JUST TO VOICE MY OPINION THAT I OPPOSE THE PLANS FOR REZONING THE PROPERTY AT 4 4 6 4 5 4 EAST HILDEBRAND AVENUE. UH, HILDEBRAND IS ALREADY TOO CONGESTED AND THAT LOT, THAT LOT SIZE IS NOT LARGE ENOUGH FOR THAT NUMBER OF CONDOS. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THE PROBLEM WITH TRAFFIC ON HILDEBRAND WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE COMING AND GOING INTO THAT AREA OFF OF HILDER GRAHAM AND SO MANY PEOPLE LIVING THERE. IT'S JUST NOT THE RIGHT PLACE FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, ASIDE FROM THE FACT THAT THIS IS THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND IT'S JUST, THEY JUST DON'T FIT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THAT IS MY, UM, REASONING. FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME AT THE NUMBER I'VE LISTED AND I APPRECIATE, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU. THIS IS BARBARA STEVENS AT TWO 11 WEST SUMMIT AVENUE, A MONTE VISTA RESIDENT FOR 22 YEARS. I'M CALLING TO VOICE MY OPINION ON CASE 2 22 1 0 7 0 2 8. THAT IS UP FOR REZONING. I URGE YOU STRONGLY TO DENY THIS REQUEST. I HAVE SEEN THE PLANS AND THEY DO NOT IN ANY WAY MEET THE GUIDELINES FOR MONTE VISTA THAT ARE REGISTERED WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. WE, THE RESIDENTS OF MONTE VISTA VALUE WHAT OUR PROPERTIES BRING TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND REMAIN LOYAL TO PROPERTY ZONED SINGLE FAMILY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. BARBARA CECILIA HURRO, I LIVE AT 4 2 2 EAST ROSEWOOD AVENUE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. PHONE NUMBER (210) 452-9209. I'M IN OPPOSITION TO CASE NUMBER Z AS IN ZEBRA, 2 0 2 2 1 0 7 0 0 2 8 1, WHICH IS GOING TO BE HEARD TOMORROW AT ONE O'CLOCK BECAUSE 14 UNITS IS A LOT OF UNITS TO BE IN THAT PROPERTY. THAT'S TOO MANY UNITS. THAT'S LIKE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. I'M IN OPPOSITION TO THAT CONSTRUCTION. THANK YOU. UH, GOOD MORNING. THIS IS CHARLES RICHARD CLEMONS, C L E M O N S. MY ADDRESS IS 2 4 1 WEST LINWOOD AVENUE, UH, 7 8 2 1 2. AND I'M CALLING IN REGARD TO, I THINK THIS IS THE CASE NUMBER, Z DASH 2 0 2 2 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 2 8 1, WHICH IS, UH, THIS HEARING IN REGARD TO A DEVELOPMENT ON HILDEBRAND AVENUE BETWEEN A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND TRINITY UNIVERSITY. SO FIRST COMMENT IS, UH, WE'VE HAD ENOUGH ZONING THERE THAT'S GOTTEN THE SCHOOL OF OPTOMETRY GIGANTIC APARTMENTS ACROSS FROM TRINITY, A GIGANTIC EXPANSION ON TRINITY THAT, UH, COMES INTO, UH, INTERSECTING HILDERBRAND AVENUE, A CRAP LOAD, MORE TRAFFIC. AND I THINK IT'S ABSURD. THERE'S A BIG LOT, UH, PRESUMABLY OWNED BY THE HOUSE ADJACENT TO IT AND THEY'RE, I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT SIX UNITS MUCH LESS. 14. ABSOLUTELY. AND I'M, I'M ASSUMING THE ACCESS TO THAT IS THROUGH THE ALLEYWAY, SO IT'S CERTAINLY NOT IN KEEPING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT, UH, I DON'T KNOW. I THINK THERE MUST HAVE BEEN A BACKROOM DEAL. MAYBE TRINITY BOUGHT THIS AND WAS GONNA HAVE SOME STUDENT HOUSING AND REMODEL THEIR CAMPUS. AND THIS IS SOME LITTLE LEFTOVER NICHE, BUT I'M, I AM EMPHATICALLY OPPOSED TO IT. [02:00:01] IT'S MESSING UP THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S GONNA MESS UP THE ALLEYWAY. IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE. I REALLY THINK NO DEVELOPMENT OR A LITTLE GREEN SPACE WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE. UH, MY NUMBER 2 1 0 8 5 9 0 5 8 4. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CHARLOTTE WILSON. UM, I OWN THE PROPERTY AT 2 59 EAST ELLWOOD IN MONTE VISTA. AND I'M, UH, CALLING ABOUT CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 2 2 1 0 7 2 81. I'M CALLING TO STRONGLY PROTEST AGAINST, UH, THE, UH, THE INSISTENCE OF MOVING THE ZONING FOR 14 UNITS, WHICH I UNDERSTAND THE OWNER IS INSISTING UPON. UM, ABOUT THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO NOW, WE ON EAST LAURELWOOD WHO WERE IN A MULTI-FAMILY UNIT AND HAD BEEN, SO SINCE ZONING WAS, UH, STARTED IN SAN ANTONIO, UH, WERE FORCED TO GO TO R FOURS. UM, HOW COME A SINGLE, UH, R FIVE IS NOW MOVING TO, TO, UH, A SINGLE FAMILY? R FIVE IS NOW INSISTING ON 14 UNITS. THIS IS NOT, UH, THIS IS NOT FAIR. IT IS MONTE VISTA. IT'S A HISTORICAL DISTRICT AND I FULLY CONCUR WITH THE CITY STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT IT SHOULD GO FROM AN R FIVE H TO AN I D Z ONE. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS CLAY HAWTHORN, C A U T H O R N. WE LIVE AT THREE 14 WEST SME PLACE IN MONTE VISTA. I AM MENTIONING, OR THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO CASE NUMBER Z DASH 2 0 2 2 1 0 7 2 8 1. I DO NOT WANT THE, UH, ZONING TO CHANGE FROM SIX UNITS TO 14 UNITS. UM, WE DRIVE HILDEBRAND ALMOST EVERY DAY AND, UH, THE TRAFFIC HAS ALREADY INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY AND THIS WOULD JUST ADD, YOU KNOW, TO THAT AND, UH, THAT IS TOO MANY UNITS ON THAT SIZE PROPERTY. AND AGAIN, WE, WE DO NOT WANT, UH, THIS ZONING CHANGE TO OCCUR. THANK YOU. BYE. OH, PHONE NUMBER (713) 582-3335. THANK YOU. BYE. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CLIFF HERBERG. THAT LAST NAME IS H E R B AS IN BOY, E R G. I LIVE AT THREE 20 WEST ELLWOOD AVENUE AND I AM CALLING REGARDING CASE NUMBER ZONING CASE NUMBER Z DASH 2 0 22 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 2 8 1. AND THIS IS REGARDING, UH, PROPOSED 14 UNIT DEVELOPMENT ON EAST HILDEBRAND. UH, I AM OPPOSED TO THAT DEVELOPMENT. IT IS NOT IN KEEPING WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS, UM, GOING TO CONGEST, UH, EAST HILDEBRAND EVEN MORE THAN IT ALREADY IS, WHICH IS, UM, UH, A NIGHTMARE TO DRIVE ON EVERY MORNING. I TRAVEL EAST HILDEBRAND EVERY MORNING AND IT IS PARTICULARLY BAD SINCE TRINITY UNIVERSITY GOT THE STOPLIGHT THERE AT THE CITY VIEW APARTMENTS, UH, THEIR CITY VIEW DORM. UH, AND THAT LI THAT STOPLIGHT HAS REALLY MADE TRAFFIC VERY BAD AND THIS ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC LOAD WILL BE, UH, EVEN WORSE FOR COMMUTERS, UH, ON HIGH TRAFFIC TIMES AS WELL AS THE SCHOOL ZONES THAT, UH, ARE SLOWING TRAFFIC EVERY MORNING. AND SO I AM OPPOSED TO DEVELOPMENT OF THAT, UH, PARCEL OF LAND AND AS I SAID, UM, NOT IN KEEPING IT ALL WITH THE CHARACTER MONTE VISTA AND, UH, I WOULD THINK THAT OUR DISTRICT ONE COUNCILMAN WOULD BE DOING SOMETHING TO OPPOSE THIS. UH, SO, UH, PLEASE, UH, NOTE MY OPPOSITION AND MY NUMBER ONCE AGAIN IS (210) 241-6841. MY PHONE NUMBER AGAIN, (210) 241-6841. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS MESSAGE IS TO THE ZONING COMMISSION FROM CYNTHIA AND PAUL KIRBY AT 1 0 3 SELMA DRIVE, 7 8 2 1 2. TODAY'S DATE IS 12 5 22. CASE NUMBER LAST THREE DIGITS 2 8 1. WE ARE IN OPPOSITION OF THE REZONING OF 4 4 6 EAST HILDEBRAND AVENUE. WE HAVE LIVED AT 1 0 3 THELMA DRIVE SINCE 2004. OUR HOUSE IS AT THE CORNER OF HILDEBRAND AND THELMA DRIVE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM 4 4 6 EAST HILDEBRAND. SINCE THEN, WE'VE SEEN THE TRAFFIC INCREASE DUE TO THE RELOCATION OF SUNSHINE COTTAGE ADDRESSED [02:05:01] 6 0 3 EAST HILDEBRAND AND THE INCREASE OF POPULATION AND TRAFFIC DENSITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY. VISTA HIGH RISE AT 6 55 EAST HILDEBRAND BOTH BEING WITHIN THE SAME BLOCK AND WITHIN YARDS FROM 4 4 6 EAST HILDEBRAND. ALTHOUGH TRINITY AND SUNSHINE COTTAGE CREATED TRAFFIC LANES AND EVEN A TRAFFIC LIGHT FOR ACCESS TO THEIR RESPECTIVE PROPERTIES, HILDEBRAND ROAD LANES WERE RETRIED TO ONE LANE, TRAVELING WEST TO THE SHOOK LIGHT DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE REZONING REQUEST. THIS HAS CREATED A DANGEROUS AREA FOR THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS. IT HAS MADE IT NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE TO TURN LEFT OFF BELMONT TO HILDEBRAND. DUE TO THE BACKUP OF TRAFFIC FROM THE LIGHT, IT SHOOK FOR NUMEROUS AMOUNTS OF TIME PER DAY. AT THIS TIME, THE TRAFFIC BACKUP PREVENTS US FROM ACCESSING OUR DRIVEWAY TO OUR PROPERTY. NOW, THIS REQUEST TO REZONE TO ALLOW 14, OR EVEN THE SIX MULTI-UNIT HOUSING DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE THELMA STREET, IS COMPLETELY ABSURD THAT 14 ADDITIONAL VEHICLES WILL BE ENTERING AND EXITING THAT EXACT SPOT ONTO HILDEBRAND. THERE HAS NOT BEEN ONE THING DONE ABOUT THE CURRENT DANGEROUS AREA AT THALMAN HILDEBRAND, AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT THIS REQUEST WILL MAKE IT WORSE. I COULD GO ON ABOUT THE LACK OF SPEED CONTROL OR THE FACT THAT THE RE RESIDENTIAL STREET HAS SEMI TRAILERS FLYING DOWN DAILY, THE STREET DAILY, BUT I WILL FOCUS ON WHAT I, THIS IS ERIC STOCKER, S T O C K E. I'M AT 1 36 WEST GRAMERCY PLACE. IT'S FRIDAY, DECEMBER THE SECOND. I'M CALLING IN, UH, OPPOSITION OF THE REZONING REQUEST, UH, FOR THE SAID PROPERTY. UH, THE ZONING CASE NUMBER IS Z DASH 2 0 2 2 OR 2022 DASH 1 0 7 2 81 C 2022 DASH 1 0 7 2 81 REGARDING THE REZONING REQUEST FOR WANTING TO BUILD AN APARTMENT COMPLEX ON THE PROPERTY ON, UH, 4 5 4 EAST BR AVENUE. AND I OPPOSE THE ZONING REQUEST. AGAIN, THIS IS ERIC STOCKER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ERICA GEY, 1 2 6 WEST ELSMERE PLACE LAST DIGITS TWO EIGHT ONE. PHONE NUMBER TWO TEN SIX OH SEVEN TRIPLE ZERO ONE OBJECTING TO REZONING, UH, IN MONTE VISTA DUE TO SAFETY CONGESTION AND ITS INCONSISTENT WITH HISTORIC NATURE OF THE HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. HELLO, THIS IS IN REGARD TO CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 2 2 1 0 7 0 0 2 8 1. MY NAME IS GEORGE NELSON, 2 31 LAUREL HEIGHTS PLACE. I AM EXPRESSING OPPOSITION, COMPLETE OPPOSITION TO ANY REZONING OF 4 54 4 4 6 EAST HILDEBRAND IN THE MONTE VISTA AREA. IT IS QUITE CLEAR THAT THE ZONING PRESENTLY IS FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND THAT IS WHAT IT SHOULD REMAIN. THERE IS NO, NO REASON FOR ADDITIONAL INVASION OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BY FINITY OR OTHERS WHO INTEND TO, UH, DISALLOW THE PRESENT ZONING. WE'VE HAD ENOUGH OF THAT SORT OF THING IN THE PAST. THERE ARE PLENTY OF MULISH DWELLINGS, FOR EXAMPLE, ON LOWELL WOOD AND ROSEWOOD AND LAUREL HEIGHTS AND EAST KINGS HIGHWAY AND OTHER PARTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH HAVE AT ANY TIME ON ANY DAY A FOR RENT SIGN OUT FRONT. THERE IS NO OPPOSITION TO MULTI-FAMILY DWELLINGS, IT'S JUST THAT WE DON'T WANT TO BECOME, UH, AUSTIN WITH MONUMENTAL APARTMENT BUILDINGS EVERYWHERE. PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE THE ZONING AT 4 54 4 46 EAST TILDE BROWN. CASE NUMBER 2 81 TODAY. MY NAME IS HARRY WOLFF, W O L F F. I LIVE AT 1 2 4 THELMA DRIVE. I'M CALLING TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING IN CASE NUMBER Z DASH 2 0 2 2 8 1. I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 20 YEARS AND TRAFFIC ON HILDEBRAND HAS GOTTEN PROGRESSIVELY WORSE AND THIS REZONING WILL ONLY MAKE IT WORSE. [02:10:01] ADDED TO THE RECENT DEVELOPMENT AT TRINITY. THIS IS NOT ONLY AN INCONVENIENCE AND A CHANGE IN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT CREATES AN ADDITIONAL SAFETY HAZARD WITH PEOPLE TRYING TO GRANT INGRESS AND EGRESS FROM THELMA DRIVE. AGAIN, MY NAME IS HARRY WOLF, W O L F F, AND I AM OPPOSED TO THE REQUESTED REZONING. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS HEATHER WOLF AND MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 601-7126. MY ADDRESS IS 1 2 4 THELMA DRIVE. UM, AND I AM ABSOLUTELY OPPOSED TO THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY. FOR CASE NUMBER, THE LAST, WELL, THE LAST FEW DIGITS, 1 0 7 0 0 2 8 1. I THINK YOU SAID THE LAST FOUR DIGITS, WHICH WOULD BE 0 2 8 1. UM, ON HILDEBRAND, IT IS UNBELIEVABLE WHAT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED WITH THE ADDITION OF THE LIGHT AT, UM, THE TRINITY DORM THERE AT, UM, DIVINE AND HILDEBRAND. THE DIFFERENCE IT HAS MADE IN IN OUR LIVES, UM, GOING BACK AND FORTH DAILY. IT'S, UH, A LOT OF CARS, A LOT OF STOPS, AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO ADD MORE FAMILIES IN A MULTI-FAMILY, UH, AREA FOR THAT LOT OFF OF HILDEBRAND. IT'S, UM, I CAN'T BEGIN TO TELL YOU HOW FIRMLY OPPOSED WE ARE TO THAT. AND I GREW UP AT 1 0 7 THELMA, SO I'VE SPENT, UM, MY LIFE HERE ON THELMA DRIVE FROM THE TIME I WAS FIVE YEARS OLD. UM, I, I HOPE YOU ALL GIVE REAL CONSIDERATION BEFORE GETTING THIS THING THROUGH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HELLO, MY NAME IS JIM DICKEY AND I'M CALLING TO OPPOSE THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE FOR 4 4 6 EAST HILDEBRAND AVENUE, CASE Z 2 0 2 2 1 0 7 0 0 2 81. MY WIFE, JANET AND I OWN THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 0 8 THELMA DRIVE. WE PURCHASED OUR HOME MANY YEARS AGO, LARGELY BECAUSE IT WAS IN A WELL-ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THE PROPOSED REZONING OF THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD TO ONE THAT PERMITS 14 DWELLING UNITS ON ONE PARCEL WOULD DESTROY THE CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUR OPINION AND DEVALUE OUR NEIGHBOR'S HOMES AND OUR OWN. ANY INTRODUCTION OF MULTIFAMILY STRUCTURES WILL BE DESTRUCTIVE AND WILL MORE THAN LIKELY CAUSE MORE ZONING CHANGES, REQUESTS FURTHER DEVALUING CURRENT SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES IN THE AREA. ADDITIONALLY, PERMITTING THE 14 DWELLING UNITS ADJACENT TO THE CONVERGENCE OF EAST HILLEBRAND AVENUE AND THELMA DRIVE WILL DEFINITELY CAUSE TRAFFIC ISSUES. MONTE VISTA HAS LONG BEEN RECOGNIZED AS ONE OF OUR HISTORIC DISTRICTS WHERE FAMILIES LIVE. WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND UNDERSTANDING OF OUR STRONG OPPOSITION TO ANY CHANGE IN OUR LONG ESTABLISHED COMMUNITY OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ANN. MY NAME IS JIM LOWRY, L O W R Y. I LIVE AT, UH, ONE ONE FIVE THELMA DRIVE. MY UH, TELEPHONE NUMBER IS (210) 736-6600 AND I'M CALLING ABOUT THE, UH, REZONING CASE INVOLVING THE PROPERTY AT 4 4 6 EAST HILDEBRAND, UM, ZONING, CASE Z 2020 2 1 0 7 0 0 2 8 1. UH, I'M CALLING TO EXPRESS, UH, THE OPPOSITION OF MY WIFE AND ME, UH, TO THE REZONING OF 4 46 EAST HILDEBRAND. UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT STAFF MAY BE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR SIX UNITS RATHER THAN THE, UH, DEVELOPER'S REQUEST FOR 14 UNITS. UH, BUT EITHER WAY, UM, WE ARE ADAMANTLY OPPOSED, WHETHER IT'S SIX UNITS OR 14 UNITS, THE SIX UNITS DON'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO US EITHER. UH, EITHER WAY THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE AN EYESORE FOR OUR SINGLE FAMILY HOME COMMUNITY. UH, WE THINK IT WOULD BE JUST AWFUL AND WORSE [02:15:01] THAN THE EYESORE WOULD BE THE ADDITION OF NUMEROUS CARS TO THE ALREADY SATURATED TRAFFIC ON HILDEBRAND AVENUE. UH, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO HAS ALREADY TAKEN AWAY ONE LANE OF THROUGH TRAFFIC AT THE INTERSECTION OF HILDEBRAND AND SHOOK. UM, THE TRAFFIC BACKS UP, UH, EITHER WAY, WHETHER YOU'RE COMING EAST OR COMING WEST. IT IS JUST A BOTTLENECK. UM, ALL THE WAY FROM SHOOK, UH, FOR EXAMPLE TO MCCULLOUGH IF YOU'RE GOING WEST OR DOWN TO DEVINE. UH, IF YOU'RE COMING, E HI, MY NAME IS LENA DEION, 1 28 WEST RIDGEWOOD COURT 7 8 2 1 2. UH, THIS IS FOR CASE NUMBER Z DASH 2 22 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 2 8 1. AND I'M CALLING ABOUT THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY. I AM AGAINST IT. I DO NOT WANT ANY MORE APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN AND I THINK IT COMPROMISES THE INTEGRITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE IS APARTMENT COMPLEXES ALL OVER AND WE DO NOT NEED MORE APARTMENTS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE NEED MORE FAMILIES. THANK YOU. HI, THIS IS LISA MENENDEZ AND I'M CALLING IN REGARDING REGARDING CASE, UH, ENDING IN LAST THREE DIGITS OF 2 8 1. ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S 2 8 1. IT'S FOR THE SPACE ON HILDEBRAND WHERE IT'S, UH, LOOKING TO ADD AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, UM, AND CHANGING IT FROM SIX UNITS TO 14 UNITS. AND I AM AGAINST DOING THIS. I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I REALLY DO FEEL LIKE REZONING AND ALLOWING 14 UNITS. UM, APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN GENERAL I DON'T THINK SHOULD BE PERMITTED, BUT THE SIX UNITS IS MUCH MORE FEASIBLE. UM, IT'S REALLY DETRIMENTAL TO THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS. IT TAKES AWAY FROM THE HISTORICAL CHARM IN OUR ENVIRONMENT. ADDING TO CONGESTION ON HILDA BRAND, IT'S ALREADY A VERY CONGESTED AREA WITH JUST TWO LANES EACH DIRECTION AND THAT WOULD INCREASE THE CONGESTION AND TRAFFIC. AND I REALLY DO FEEL LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT JUST TAKES AWAY FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. OTHER LARGE CITIES HAVE A VERY, VERY STRICT HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IT SEEMS IS CARED FOR MORE INTENSELY THAN OURS. AND SO I THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY AND PROHIBIT THINGS LIKE THIS. THANK YOU. HELLO THERE. MY NAME IS LOURDES MCMANUS. I'M AT 4 4 7 EAST ROSEWOOD AVENUE, CALLING ABOUT CASE NUMBER ENDING AT 2 8 1 FOR THE REZONING OF 4 5 4, UM, AND 4 4 6 EAST HILDEBRAND. UM, I'M OPPOSED TO THE REZONING, UM, DUE TO OVERCROWDING OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. HI, THIS IS MARY STEPHANIE LOCKE AT 1 32 SELMA DRIVE, T H E L M A DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO SEVEN EIGHT TWO ONE TWO. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (214) 929-8191. I AM CALLING ABOUT THE CASE AS IN ZEBRA, 2 0 2 2 1 0 7 0 0 2 8 1. I LIVE DOWN THE STREET FROM THE, UM, PROPOSED, I'M HEARING EITHER A 14 UNIT, BUT NOW I'M HEARING SIX UNIT, UM, BUILDING THAT'S ADJACENT TO TRINITY AT HILDEBRAND AND THE TOP OF THELMA AND I LIVE VERY CLOSE TO THERE AND THE TRAFFIC IS ALREADY DEADLY RIGHT THERE. UM, WE, WE DO NOT WANT THIS, WE DO NOT WANT MULTIFAMILY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR YEARS AND YEARS BETWEEN MONTE VISTA AND THIS UPPER PART OF THELMA, WHICH UM, IS ALMOST THIS PARK, BUT IT'S THE SAN ANTONIO PORTION OF IT. WE HAVE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, BEEN, UM, ENJOYED OUR HOMES AS SINGLE FAMILY AND UM, THE TRAFFIC IS ALREADY INSANE ON HILDEBRAND. WE DO NOT NEED MORE PEOPLE PULLING OUT RIGHT THERE. SEVERAL OF US ON THIS BLOCK HAVE HAD WRECKS AT THAT CORNER. ANYWAY, WE JUST, WE REALLY, REALLY, REALLY HOPE THAT YOU, YOU CAN, UM, BE, UM, YOU KNOW, LET US CONTINUE THE LEGACY OF WHAT WE'VE HAD IN OUR BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD AND, UM, NOT CAUSE MORE TRAFFIC AND JUST TOO MUCH, TOO MUCH DENSITY. ANYWAY, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, I I, I, UM, I BEG FOR YOU TO, UM, TO LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE HERE PAY TAXES AND MAINTAIN THEIR HOMES SO THAT WE CAN ENJOY THAT, UM, GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU. HELLO, THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO CASE NUMBER Z 2 2 2 7 0 2 8 1 [02:20:03] ABOUT, UM, CONSTRUCTING 14 UNITS ON EAST HILDEBRAND. UH, I AM AGAINST THIS BECAUSE I LIVE NEARBY. TRAFFIC IS ALREADY BAD ON HILDEBRAND AND IT WILL ONLY GET WORSE WITH, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION OF THESE UNITS. AND NOW THAT, UM, TRINITY HAS ANOTHER STREET THERE THAT'S GONNA REALLY TIE THINGS UP. SO I AM AGAINST, UH, PUTTING 14 UNIT APARTMENT ON NEAR, UM, IN CORATE WORD HIGH SCHOOL. I AM AGAINST IT. MY NAME IS MARY JANE, SOUTH SEVEN. I LIVE AT 3 2 7 WEST ELLWOOD AVENUE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO ONE TWO. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 776-4191. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF YOU WISH TO CALL ME, YOU CAN, BUT I AM AGAINST THIS PROPOSITION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BYE-BYE. UH, THIS IS PATRICIA WAGNER, FOUR 30 EAST ROSEWOOD. I'M CALLING ABOUT, UH, R FIVE H A H O D TWO ONE D Z ONE. UH, I'M IN AN OPPOSITION TO THIS. I DON'T THINK, UH, WE SHOULD HAVE 14 CONDO UNITS PUT ON HILDEBRAND AVENUE. UH, THE TRAFFIC THERE IS ALL ALREADY VERY, UH, SEVERE AND I WOULD, UM, GREATLY OPPOSE HAVING THIS, UM, DONE. UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NUMBER IS 2 1 0 4 8 8 7 9 8 1. HI, MY NAME IS RAMON FLORES. I AM A MONTE VISTA RESIDENT AT 1 3 2 EAST MAGNOLIA AVENUE. I'M CALLING TO LEAVE A MESSAGE, UH, IN OPPOSITION TO A CASE ON THE DECEMBER 6TH AGENDA ZONING CASE THAT ENDS IN 0 2 8 1. UM, I'M OPPOSED TO THE POTENTIAL REZONE, UH, AND DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL FOR THE ADDRESS ON EAST HILDEBRAND, EAST HILDEBRAND. UM, I THINK IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND UM, THAT KIND OF DENSITY IS JUST REALLY NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE ARE. AND SO HOPEFULLY, UM, THIS IS RECEIVED BY STAFF. AND DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT CAN BE REACHED AT TWO TEN EIGHT SEVEN TWO FOUR NINE SIX EIGHT. THANK YOU. GOOD DAY. MY NAME IS RANDY ROGERS, MY WIFE, UM, AND I LIVE AT 1 7 4 SHRINER PLACE. HER NAME IS HEATHER WRIGHT. UH, WE ARE CALLING TO, UM, VOTE AND UH, TO BE OPPOSED TO THE, UH, CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 2 2 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 2 81. UH, WE FEEL IT'S, UH, INAPPROPRIATE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT CAUSES UNDUE STRESS ON THE STREETS, WHICH ARE ALREADY VERY NARROW AND WOULD NOT BE IN KEEPING WITH, UM, UH, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, PLEASE UM, REGISTER US AS NO IN THIS, UH, CASE. RANDY ROGERS AND HEATHER WRIGHT. 1 7 4 SHRINER PLACE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 1 2. THANK YOU. THIS IS REBECCA SIMMONS. I'M AT 2 4 1 WEST LINWOOD AVENUE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO ONE TWO. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 912-4374. I AM CALLING ABOUT ZONING CASE 20 22 1 0 7 0 0 2 8 1. IT IS ON HILDEBRAND. I'M CALLING TO IMPOSE INCREASED DENSITY ON THAT LOT THAT IS CURRENTLY, UM, BEING REVIEWED FOR THREE REASONS. NUMBER ONE, INCOMPATIBILITY, NUMBER TWO, TRAFFIC NUMBER THREE, TREES. NUMBER ONE, INCOMPATIBILITY. I BELIEVE THAT A HIGH DENSITY UNIT AT THAT SPOT IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE REST OF THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT LIES, UM, IN MONTE VISTA AND LIES TO THE SOUTH OF HILDEBRAND. THAT IS MOSTLY, UH, HAS SOME, UM, HIGHER DENSITY, BUT MOSTLY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND THAT IS A PROTECTED NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THE CORRIDOR, A LONG HILL BRAND HAS TRADITIONALLY BEEN RESIDENTIAL ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE ALL THE WAY TO SAN PEDRO. UM, AND SO CHANGING THAT WOULD CREATE, UM, A NEW USE WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF. SECONDLY, [02:25:01] UM, I WANNA TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC ALREADY. HILDEBRAND IS CARRYING FAR TOO MUCH TRAFFIC. UH, THE INCREASED DENSITY WITH TRINITY, UH, EMPTYING NOW ON HILDEBRAND ALONG WITH THE APARTMENT HAS INCREASED THAT TRAFFIC FLOW AT FIVE O'CLOCK AND AT OTHER RUSH SHOWERS. UM, AND THERE'S NOWHERE TO EXPAND WITHOUT GOING INTO THE HOUSING STOCK. FINALLY, TREES THAT LOT HAS BEAUTIFUL TREES. UM, WE'VE ALREADY LOST THE MEADOW, UH, AT TRINITY, AND SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD ONCE AGAIN BE LOSING THE TREES UPON WHICH IT PRIDES ITSELF WITH THIS HIGHER DENSITY, THERE WOULD BE NO WAY TO SAVE THE, UM, TREES THAT ARE THERE AND ONCE CUT DOWN. GOOD MORNING. THIS ES AT FOUR THREE ZERO EAST HILDEBRAND. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (956) 324-9396. AND I'M CALLING ON REGARDS TO CASE LAST THREE DIGIT 1 5 9. AND IT'S A PROPERTY AT 4 4 6 EAST HILBURN AVENUE THAT THEY PLAN TO REZONE AND BUILD MULTI LITTLE APARTMENTS. AND I AM A NEIGHBOR LESS THAN 200 FEET AWAY, AND I TOTALLY OPPOSE THAT IDEA. HILDERMAN IS ALREADY A NIGHTMARE TO EVEN GETTING AND OUT OF MY OWN DRIVEWAY. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE ADDING, YOU KNOW, 16, 18 MORE PEOPLE LIVING THERE. PLUS IT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT THAT WE LIVE IN. IT'S JUST GOING TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD A LOT. I REALLY, REALLY HOPE YOU CAN DO SOMETHING TO NOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. ROBERT DELEY, 1 1 5 WEST SATCH AVENUE, UM, MONTE VISTA, WHAT ELSE? 2 1 0 8 3 8 2 4 21. AND THIS IS ABOUT Z 2 0 2 2 DASH 1 0 7 0 2 8 1 AT 4 5 4 EAST HILDEBRAND. MY NAME IS ROBERT LY AND I LIVE AT ONE 15 WEST ATCH IN MONTE VISTA. I'M CALLING IN SUPPORT OF ZONING CHANGE FOR 4 5 4 EAST HILDEBRAND. I LIVE AND OWN PROPERTY IN MONTE VISTA BECAUSE OF THE FORD'S RESIDENCE. THE BEST COMBINATION OF RESIDENTIAL AND URBAN LIVING. THERE ARE COFFEE SHOPS, RESTAURANTS, AND SMALL BUSINESSES DISPERSED THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALONG WITH APARTMENTS, MULTIPLEXES AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THERE ARE ELEGANT MANSIONS AND HUMBLE COTTAGES FOUND SCATTERED ALL OVER THE AREA. SOMETIMES ABUTTING ONE ANOTHER. TO ME, THIS SOUNDS LIKE HEAVEN, WHO WOULDN'T WANT TO LIVE HERE IF THEY COULD AFFORD IT? THUS WE COME TO THE CRUX OF THE PROBLEM. IS THERE ENOUGH MID-LEVEL HOUSING HERE THAT WE CAN AFFORD TO MISS THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMIT TO PROVIDING AN INTELLIGENTLY DESIGNED, WELL-EXECUTED PROPERTY THAT PUTS MONTE VISTA IN THE VANGUARD OF URBAN PLANNING? THERE HAS BEEN A GREAT DEAL OF FEAR-BASED MISINFORMATION AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ABOUT THE SIZE AND SCOPE AND INTENT OF THE PROJECT. I UNDERSTAND WHY THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE CARE PASSIONATELY ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF THIS RESIDENTIAL GYM. I WOULD REMIND THEM THAT THIS IS A SMALL SCALE UNDERTAKING ON THE PERIPHERY OF MONTE VISTA ADJACENT TO TRINITY UNIVERSITY ON A VACANT LOT. IT IS NOT THE WORK OF A LARGE REMOVED OUT OF TOWN DEVELOPER. THIS IS A SMALL, LOCALLY OWNED AWARD-WINNING DESIGN TEAM. IN FACT, THESE YOUNG DESIGNERS ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE BEST OF OUR OWN CHILDREN, CONCERNED, COMMITTED, AND DETERMINED TO CONTRIBUTE TO A FUTURE THAT LOOKS INCREASINGLY PROBLEMATIC. AT BEST, THEY LIVE AND WORK HERE BECAUSE IT IS THEIR CITY, THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, THEIR HOME. IF THE DESIRE FOR EQUITABLE AND DECENT HOUSING FOR ALL OUR CITIZENS IS RIGHT AND GOOD, THEN THIS IS THE CHANCE FOR ALL OF US TO BE PERSONALLY ON THE RIGHT AND GOOD SIDE OF HISTORY. I HOPE EVERYONE TAKES A MINUTE TO CONSIDER THAT AND WAIVE THE COST. AND GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS ROBERT CROW. THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO CASE NUMBER ENDING IN 2 8 1. UH, MY ADDRESS IS 2 8 1 5 NORTH MAIN AVENUE AND MY PHONE NUMBER IS (970) 367-3799. AND I'M JUST CALLING TO EXPRESS MY, UM, MY DISPLEASURE AT THE PROPOSITION OF CHANGING, UH, THE, THE ZONING COMMISSIONED, UM, HERE TO 14 UNITS. UM, THIS AREA IS BECOMING INCREASINGLY POP POPULAR AND, AND POPULATED AND ADDING ANOTHER 14 UNITS IN, IN AN AREA THAT'S, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY NOT ZONED FOR THAT. I MEAN, THE CITY HAD IT RIGHT WHEN THEY PLANNED THIS, AND I THINK CHANGING IT NOW IS ALSO GONNA EXACERBATE THE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE IN THAT AREA. SO PLEASE TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AS A RESIDENT OF THE AREA. UM, UH, AGAIN, IT, IT WAS PLANNED CORRECTLY. UM, I THINK CHANGING IT NOW DOESN'T REALLY ADDRESS [02:30:01] ANY OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE PROPOSED HERE THAT I SEE. UH, IT ONLY MAKES THINGS WORSE, SO PLEASE CONSIDER THIS, UM, MESSAGE AS SOMEONE, A CONCERNED RESIDENT IN THE AREA. THANK YOU. UH, YES, MY NAME IS ROY CLARK BODDY, B O D D Y, AND MY ADDRESS IS 1 5 6 THELMA DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 1 2. I'M CALLING IN REGARDS TO CASE NUMBER Z AS IN ZEBRA, 2 0 2 2 1 0 7 0 0 2 8 1. AND I'D JUST LIKE TO VOICE MY, UH, DISAPPROVAL OF REZONING THIS PROPERTY, UH, TO INCLUDE, UH, APARTMENT UNITS. UM, WE HAVE A EXTREME TRAFFIC PROBLEM AT THELMA AND, AND HILDEBRAND NOW, AND THIS WILL ONLY MAKE THIS MUCH WORSE. AND, UH, WE ALSO JUST, THIS IS A, A, UH, A LOVELY NEIGHBORHOOD OF BEAUTIFUL HOMES AND THEN TO PUT IN, UH, 6, 12, 14 UNITS OF APARTMENTS IN THERE, UH, WE THINK WILL DESTROY, UH, THE, UH, VALUE OF OUR PROPERTIES AS WELL AS, AS THE, UH, THE NATURE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WE JUST REALLY OPPOSE THIS AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HEARING ME AND BYE-BYE. THIS IS SARAH QUIRK. I LIVE AT ONE 10 WEST LINWOOD SAN ANTONIO SEVEN EIGHT TWO ONE TWO. MY PHONE NUMBER'S (210) 347-5648 AND I'M REFERENCING Z DASH 20 22 1 0 7 0 2 81. AND I AM FULLY, FULLY AGAINST THE PROPOSED BUILD OF THREE APARTMENTS ON HILDEBRAND AND OUR BEAUTIFUL HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS DEFINITELY SHOULD BE RESTRICTED AND SHOULD NOT BECOME AVAILABLE OR POSSIBLE FOR ANY OTHER FUTURE BUILDS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE PRIDE OURSELVES IN BEING HISTORIC AND WE TAKE GREAT MEANS AND TIME TO PRESERVE WHAT IT IS. AND WE DON'T NEED TONS OF HOUSING BUILT AND MORE TRAFFIC AND IT JUST DOES NOT WORK FOR THE IMAGE OF WHAT WE ARE ALL PRESERVING. IT'S THIS GREEDY DEVELOPER WINDY TO BUILD A WHOLE BUNCH OF HOUSES ON A VERY SMALL LOT THAT IS NOT IN KEEPING. AND WE DO NOT WANT A PRECEDENT SET THAT THIS IS ACCEPTABLE OR ALLOWABLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I AM DEFINITELY OPPOSING IT. I'VE SIGNED THE PETITION AGES AGO AND I AM VERY UPSET THAT A BUILDER, WHICH IS MONEY, CAN COME ON IN AND THINK THAT THEY CAN JUST BULLY IT AND PUT THREE APARTMENT BUILDINGS ON ONE SINGLE FAMILY LOT WITH ALL THOSE PARKING SPOTS, ALL THAT CEMENT AND TWO ACCESSES ONTO THE, TO THE ROAD. THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AND NOT FAVORABLE BY MANY, MANY PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THIS IS SARAH WEST KEMPER LAKE, 2 1 0 6 3 7 5 2 5 3. I AM THE RESIDENT AND OWNER OF 2 4 7 EAST SUMMIT AVENUE IN MONTE VISTA, CALLING ABOUT THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE FOR 4 4 6 EAST HILDEBRAND AGENDA. UM, ITEM NINE Z DASH 2022 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 2 81. I'M A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT WHOSE MASTER'S DEGREE STUDIES AND LENGTHY PRACTICE HAVE CONCENTRATED ON SITES WORTHY OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION, INCREASING DENSITY IN SAN ANTONIO'S MOST ICONIC RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. ERODES CHARACTER AND REDUCES THE VALUE BOTH GENERALLY AND IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA OF REDEVELOPMENT. PLEASE CONSIDER MAINTAINING THE RHYTHM OF SEPARATED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND CURB CUTS IN THIS BEAUTIFUL BLOCK BY ALLOWING NO MORE UNITS THAN THE SMALLEST LOTS WHICH NOW EXIST BETWEEN THE PROPOSED CHANGE AND THE CORNER OF HILDEBRAND AND SHOOK. THIS WOULD BE TWO OR THREE SINGLE FAMILY SITES RATHER THAN THE SIX WHICH STAFF HAS PROPOSED AS AN ALTERNATE TO THE ZONING QUEST, THE 400 BLOCK HAS SUBSTANTIAL WELL [02:35:01] CONSTRUCTED HOMES AND THE AREA IS BACKED TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH BY SIMILAR LOW DENSITY, PRIMARILY SINGLE FAMILY, SIGNIFICANT ARCHITECTURE, CREATING A CONTINUOUS CLUSTER OF NEIGHBORHOODS FROM THE NORTH EXTREME OF ALMA PARK SOUTH THROUGH MONTE VISTA AND TOBIN HILL. THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS BELOVED AND A WELL USED COMMUNITY OF RENTERS, DOG WATER WALKERS, CHILDREN AND STROLLERS, TOURISTS, VISITORS, CHURCH GUESTS, STUDENTS OF ALL AGES AND PROUD OWNERS WHO CHOOSE TO BE HERE. PLEASE HELP US MAINTAIN THE MAGNETIC CHARACTER OF THE AREA WITH OPEN SPACE. MY NAME IS DREW VAN STEINBERG. I LIVE AT 1 1 5 EAST LINWOOD SAN ANTONIO AND MONTE VISTA. THIS IS REGARDING CASE NUMBER. THE LAST FOUR DIGITS ARE 0 2 8 1. I'M CALLING TO OPPOSE THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY ON HILDEBRAND. GOOD MORNING. THIS IS, UH, TIMOTHY COHEN. UH, THE ADDRESS IS TWO ONE FIVE WEST LINWOOD. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 825-1491. I'M CALLING ABOUT THE CASE ENDING IN 0 2 8 1, A ZONING CASE. AND I'M OPPOSED TO ANY CHANGE TWO ZONING THAT WOULD ALLOW MULTIPLE HOUSING UNITS. THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD OF SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING. UH, THE NEIGHBOR TO THE TO THE WEST IS SINGLE FAMILY. IT NEEDS TO REMAIN SINGLE FAMILY ZONING. THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME IS TONY GARZA. MY NUMBER IS 2 1 0 9 0 2 5 2 3 4. I'M CALLING FOR REFERENCE NUMBER Z DASH 2 0 2 2 DASH 1 0 7 0 2 8 1. UH, I WAS ACTUALLY JUST CALLING TO GIVE MY INPUT OF MR. BENJAMIN BOWMAN. UM, I BELIEVE HIS PROJECTS AS A GC, HIS, HIM AND HIS PROJECTS ARE JUST ALWAYS, UM, HE'S, HE'S WELL, WELL FOR THE COMMUNITY. HE'S, HIS PROJECTS ARE WELL, WELL PLANNED. HE'S A GREAT INDIVIDUAL, SOMEONE TO, THAT'S INSPIRING TO WORK FOR ALSO, HE'S JUST HIS CHARACTER CAN, CAN SPEAK FOR ITSELF. I JUST ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT AS AN ELECTRICIAN, I WISH THAT THERE WERE MORE GCS AS MR. BOWMAN. UM, HIS, LIKE, I I I, I DON'T, I'M KIND OF JUST LOST FOR WORDS OTHER THAN HE'S AN OUTSTANDING INDIVIDUAL AND HIS PROJECTS ARE AMAZING. HE'S FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. UH, THANK YOU AND HAVE A BLESSED DAY. HI, MY NAME IS VALERIE V AND I RESIDE AT TWO ZERO SIX PINEWOOD LANE. MY PHONE NUMBER IS AREA CODE (832) 606-1270 AND I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO THE REZONING CASE ENDING IN DIGITS 2 8 1 AT 4 5 4 EAST HILDEBRAND. I'M CALLING IN SUPPORT OF THE REZONING OF 4 5 4 EAST HILDEBRAND. THE LOT IS CURRENTLY EMPTY AND AS SUCH, DEVELOPMENT WILL NOT DISPLACE ANYONE AND ONLY STANDS TO PROVIDE SAN ANTONIO WITH HIGH QUALITY, ENVIRONMENTALLY SUSTAINABLE AND HIGHLY DESIRABLE HOUSING OPTIONS. THERE ARE MANY EXISTING MULTI-FAMILY RENTAL PROPERTIES IN MONTE VISTA. SOME OF THEM HISTORIC DIVERSITY OF HOUSING OPTIONS IS THE TRADITIONAL HISTORICAL VALUE OF THE MONTE VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT BY ASSETS AND ARCHITECTS HAS CLEARLY BEEN DESIGNED WITH KEEPING THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S AESTHETIC VALUE IN MIND. URBAN INFILL HOUSING IS THE MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY FORM OF CITY GROWTH AND THIS CORNER OF MONTE VISTA STANDS ONLY TO GAIN ADDITIONAL RESIDENCE IN AN AREA OF HIGH DEMAND. THE LOCATION AND DESIGN OF THE PROPERTY AND PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS ONE THAT WOULD BE HIGHLY DESIRABLE BY SOMEONE LIKE MYSELF, A TEACHER WHO WORKS AT A SCHOOL LESS THAN TWO MILES FROM THE PROPERTY. NOT ONLY IS THE DEVELOPMENT DESIRABLE AND ATTAINABLE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE CONCEPT IS ONE THAT WOULD ADD VALUE TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF MONTE VISTA. ALL AT THE HANDS OF A LOCALLY OWNED AND OPERATED SMALL BUSINESS OF AN AWARD-WINNING DESIGN TEAM. THOSE WHO ARE CURRENTLY LIVING IN MONTE VISTA CLEARLY UNDERSTAND AND BENEFIT FROM THEIR CIRCUMSTANCES AND ACCOMMODATIONS IN SUCH A LOCATION. I NEED, I SEE NO HARM AND ONLY BENEFITS IN ALLOWING THE DEVELOPMENT TO MOVE FORWARD TO CREATE ADDITIONAL OPTIONS FOR THOSE WISHING TO LIVE IN THE AREA. I HOPE YOU'LL CONSIDER THIS DEVELOPMENT ALONG WITH THE INEVITABLE GROWTH OF THE CITY AND OUR STATED VISION AND GOALS IN MIND. THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME IS W H HAWKINS JR. MY ADDRESS IS 1 2 1 1 4 WILD ROSE HILL, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO THREE OH. [02:40:01] MY PHONE NUMBER IS TWO ONE SIX SIX NINE FOUR EIGHT ONE EIGHT. I'M CALLING IN SUPPORT OF ZONING CASE Z 2 2 2 0 2 8 1 AT 4 54 EAST HILDEBRAND. THIS IS AN ENORMOUS LOT AND IT'S CURRENTLY SURROUNDED BY EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE IN SOME OF OUR FINEST CULTURAL AMENITIES. MONTE VISTA IS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS ALWAYS HAD A WIDE VARIETY OF GREAT ARCHITECTS AND BUILDING TYPES AND IT ENJOYS A WIDE VARIETY OF HOUSING, COMMERCIAL AND INSTITUTIONAL USES. DIVERSITY IS PART OF WHAT MAKES THIS GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS PROPOSAL CONTINUES IN ALL OF THOSE SAME TRADITIONS. TO ALLOW THIS PROJECT WOULD BE TO SHARE MONTE VISTA WITH AT LEAST 14 MORE SAN ANTONIO WITH WITHOUT TEARING ANYTHING DOWN OR DISPLACING ANYONE AT ALL. SAN ANTONIO IS ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING CITIES IN THE COUNTRY. WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THE CHALLENGES AND OPPORTUNITIES OF GROWTH FROM A REALISTIC AND FORWARD THINKING STANDPOINT. THE SA TOMORROW PLANS CLEAR QUOTE, GROWTH WILL CREATE DEMAND FOR A RANGE OF HOUSING TYPES AND LOCATIONS AND GENERATE A VARIETY OF JOBS REQUIRING A VARIETY OF EMPLOYMENT SITES. THIS PROPOSAL WILL HELP EXPAND AND DIVERSIFY HOUSING PRESERVE AND IMPROVE UPON THIS EXISTING HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD AND CLEARLY ADDRESSES ISSUES OF AFFORDABILITY AND ECONOMIC SEGREGATION. WHY IT IS RARE TO SEE HIGH QUALITY WORK AT SUCH A SMALL SCALE. I ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO FAMILIARIZE YOURSELVES WITH THIS TEAM'S WORK. IT IS BOTH UNDERSTATED AND TIMELESS. SAN ANTONIO DESERVES MORE HIGH QUALITY INFIELD DEVELOPMENT AND HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT IN GENERAL. THE TEAM BEHIND THIS PROPOSAL HAS A COUPLE OF YOUNG FOLKS. THEY'RE RECEIVING RECOGNITION AT THE STATE AND NATIONAL. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, KINDA WANNA MAKE EVERYONE STAND UP. IT WAS AN HOUR OF OF DOING IT. I WON'T DO IT, BUT I RECOMMEND YOU MIGHT WANNA STAND UP. UM, ALRIGHT, IF WE CAN GO ON AND START CALLING THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE TO SPEAK REGARDING THIS ITEM. I HAVE MS. TONY MARIE VAN BUREN. LET'S SEE. HELLO. UH, THE FIRST THING I'D LIKE TO DO, UM, IS SAY, THANKS FOR BEING HERE AND I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I'D LIKE EVERYBODY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO STAND UP. THANKS Y'ALL FOR COMING. SO WE HAVE GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, MONTE VISTA WILL BE 50 YEARS. THE MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION WILL BE 50 YEARS OLD NEXT YEAR. UM, WE, UH, HAVE A LOT OF THINGS PLANNED. UM, I REALLY LOVE SOME OF THE COMMENTS I HEARD THE GREAT PRIDE OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, WE ARE OPPOSED, UH, TO THIS PARTICULAR, UH, CHANGE IN THE ZONING. BOTH, UH, BOTH THE ONE ASKED FOR AND THE ONE THAT STAFF RECOMMENDED. UM, WE JUST DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD FIT FOR THIS LOT. THIS IS THE VERY FIRST LOT THAT YOU ENTER OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, OKAY? AND THERE ARE SIX BEAUTIFUL HOMES, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AS YOU GO DOWN THAT ROAD. WE JUST THINK THAT IT'S INAPPROPRIATE. UM, WE ARE ALL FOR, UH, MULTI-FAMILY. UM, WE'VE BEEN HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS 'CAUSE OF THIS ABOUT THE SAN PEDRO CORRIDOR AND HOW FINE THAT WOULD BE, UM, TO DO SOME MULTI-FAMILY, ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT V IS DOING AND EVERYTHING ELSE. UM, BUT WE ARE OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT, UM, HOW MANY EMAILS DID WE GET? DO YOU KNOW, IN SUPPORT A BUNCH. UM, BUT THE, I I REALLY ENJOYED HEARING THESE, THESE PHONE CALLS AND I HOPE YOU'LL LISTEN LOUD AND CLEAR. UM, BUT WE ARE OPPOSED TO THIS, SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. VAN BUREN AND THANK YOU FOR GETTING EVERYONE TO STAND UP. UM, ALRIGHT. NEXT, PLEASE, MS. JOCELYN BLANCHARD AND MS. BLANCHARD, IF YOU WOULD, NAME AND ADDRESS. THANK YOU. HELLO, I'M JACELYN BLANCHARD AND I RESIDE AT 4 38 EAST HILDEBRAND. TWO DOORS DOWN FROM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND I AM OPPOSED TO IT. 14 DWELLING UNITS WITH 21 PARKING SPACES ON AN APPROXIMATELY HALF ACRE LOT SANDWICHED BETWEEN TRINITY UNIVERSITY AND A NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S TOO LARGE FOR THE LOT. THIS WOULD OVERWHELM HILDEBRAND, A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE THAT THE CITY AND TRINITY JUST SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY AND TIME TO MODERNIZE WITH A NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND CROSSWALK. EVEN WITH THESE IMPROVEMENTS, AS OUR THELMA NEIGHBOR POINTED OUT ON THE VOICEMAIL, THESE CHANGES HAVE CREATED DIFFICULT AND AT TIMES DANGEROUS DRIVING CONDITIONS. RETURNING TO [02:45:01] OUR HOMES AND LEAVING OUR HOMES AT VARIOUS TIMES OF THE DAY. REZONING WOULD ALLOW FUTURE MULTI-STORY OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS NOT AT ALL IN KEEPING WITH THE INTEGRITY AND VALUE OF OUR MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M A SECOND GENERATION MONTE VISTA RESIDENT. MY PARENTS BUILT A HOME IN MONTE VISTA IN ACCORDANCE WITH HISTORICAL STANDARDS. THIS ZONING CHANGE IS NOT WHAT I WANT FOR OUR FUTURE CHILDREN AND FUTURE GENERATIONS. I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND MY FELLOW NEIGHBORS TO OPPOSE THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. I WANT TO BE CLEAR, I AM NOT AT ALL OPPOSED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I GREATLY UNDERSTAND THE NEED HAVING LIVED IN OTHER FAST-GROWING URBAN ENVIRONMENTS. BUT I DO THINK THAT MONTE VISTA HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME WORKING WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO TO IDENTIFY OTHER CORRIDORS TO MEET INFILL DEVELOPMENT NEEDS EVEN WITHIN OUR HISTORICAL DISTRICT. THIS PROJECT FLIES IN THE FACE OF THOSE HOURS OF PLANNING. I PERSONALLY SPEARHEADED A PETITION ON CHANGE.ORG THAT HAS RECEIVED OVER 500 SIGNATURES SO FAR FROM NEIGHBORS WHO FEEL THIS EXACT SAME WAY THAT THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS NOT RIGHT FOR HILDEBRAND. I CONVEYED THROUGH THE MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION MULTIPLE TIMES THAT I WAS THANK YOU MS. BLANC. UH, MAYBE WE CAN TURN THAT ONE DOWN A LITTLE BIT. UM, THANK YOU. NEXT PLEASE. MR. ALLEN AND JANIE. MS. JANIE PEARSON. DO Y'ALL WANT TO SHARE YOUR TIME OR COME UP ONE AT ONE AFTER THE OTHER? I'M JUST KIND OF HER SUPPORT. ALRIGHT. GOOD ENOUGH. SO YOU'RE GIVING YOUR TWO MINUTES TO HER? HE'S MY SUPPORT ANIMAL. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. UM, ALAN AND I, OR DO THEY GET FOUR MINUTES OR DID THEY ONLY SIGN UP ONCE? JUST TWO MINUTES. OKAY, PERFECT. THANK YOU. ALAN AND I LIVE NEXT TO JALYN. UM, I KNOW THAT, UH, 4 34. 4 34 AT EAST TOTAL BROWN. AND I KNOW THAT BEN CALLED OUR TWO HOMES A SUBDIVISION. THEY'RE NOT SUBDIVIDED TWO PRIVATE HOMES THAT JALYN HAS HERS AND I HAVE MINE, SO I DON'T WANT IT TO SOUND LIKE THERE'S MULTIFAMILY LIVING ADJACENT TO THIS ALREADY. UM, I DID GOOGLE BEN'S ADDRESS AND NOTED THAT HE'S NOT A RESIDENT OF MONTE VISTA AND I BET THE OTHERS IN SUPPORT OF THIS CHANGE ARE ALSO NOT. UM, TODAY WE HEARD SEVERAL OF YOU COMMISSIONERS SPEAK ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORS. YOU HAVE HEARD US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MR. ANDREW SHEA. UH, THAT'S MY HUSBAND AND HE LEFT AND HE SEATED HIS TIME TO ME, IF THAT'S OKAY. YEAH. UNFORTUNATELY YOU DO HAVE TO BE PRESENT, UH, FOR THAT. SO WHO WAS PRESENT WHEN HE, I, I UNDERSTAND AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT THANK YOU. FINE. I'LL MAKE THIS QUICK. I'M CYNTHIA SHEA, UM, THIRD GENERATION SAN ANTONIO. WE'RE THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY. 4 4 6 EAST HILDEBRAND, UH, ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED REZONING. WE JUST BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY LAST WEEK. WE'RE OPPOSED TO THE REZONING FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. WE WOULD PREFER IT STAY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IF IT HAS TO BE REZONED TO MULTI-FAMILY. WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO MULTI-FAMILY. WE'VE LIVED NEXT TO MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTIES AND OTHER CITIES. IT'S OKAY, BUT 14 UNITS IS JUST TOO MUCH. I'M, I SAID THIRD GENERATION SAN ANTONIO. WE'RE MOVING BACK HERE FROM AUSTIN. WHY? BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB PRESERVING THE INTEGRITY OF THIS CITY. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLACE. THE ARCHITECTURE'S STILL IN PLACE. I GET, YOU KNOW, THE HERITAGE IS OVERWHELMING. I LOVE IT HERE. AND I'M DRAGGING MY HUSBAND HERE FROM HOUSTON WHO AGREES THAT THERE'S A CONSISTENCY AND A, UM, UH, INTEGRITY TO THE WAY THE CITIES HELD ITSELF TOGETHER. WE WANNA BE A PART OF THAT. THAT'S WHY WE BOUGHT THIS HOME IN MONTE VISTA. WE LOVE HISTORIC PROPERTIES. UM, I WANTED TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS TO ADDRESS, UH, WHAT MR. BOWMAN SAID ABOUT OUR PROPERTY. HE'S A GREAT GUY. WE'VE HAD VISITS WITH HIM ON THE PHONE. WELCOME HIM AS A NEIGHBOR. HE TOLD US HE ORIGINALLY PURCHASED THAT LOT TO BUILD HIS OWN HOME. IF THAT'S TRUE, COME ON OVER. WE'D LOVE IT. UM, BUT NOT THE 14 UNITS. UH, CURRENTLY THEY'RE REFERRING TO THE PROPERTY THAT'S BEING REZONED AS 4, 5, 4, AND 4, 4 6. WE'RE NOT BEING REZONED. WHY IS THAT? THE PROPERTIES ARE STILL TOGETHER ON THE TAX ROLLS. HOW CAN THAT BE AFTER HE BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY BACK IN JUNE? IT MAKES ME WONDER ABOUT THE PROFESSIONAL APPROACH TO THIS PROJECT. UM, SECONDLY, OUR HOME IS NOT 5,200 SQUARE FEET. IT'S ON THE TAX ROLLS AROUND 3,300 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS GREAT. IT'S A LOT OF SPACE, BUT IT'S NOT A MANSION. OH, IS THAT MY AH, THAT IS YOUR TIME, MS. [02:50:01] THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU MA'AM. MS. KATHY KENNEDY. WELL, OBVIOUSLY I'M OPPOSED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. UH, YOU KNOW, WE, I KNOW THERE'S GROWTH AND I KNOW WE NEED, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN, IN MONTE VISTA. WE HAVE QUADS, HISTORICAL QUADS. WE HAVE, UM, MULTIFAMILY UNITS, DUPLEXES, MANY RENT SIGNS. THEY'RE RUNNING ABOUT THE SAME RENT AS HE HAVE SOME MORE, SOME LESS. I LIVE IN ONE. UH, I'VE BEEN IN MONTE VISTA SINCE THE SEVENTIES. I'VE WATCHED IT, UH, EBB AND FLOW UNTIL WE GOT THE HISTORICAL DESIGNATION IN THE WHAT? 74. THE PROBLEM IS IN, IN THIS AREA IN SAN ANTONIO AND BEAR COUNTY, WE HAVE DEVELOPERS RUNNING AROUND, UH, THE AREA LIKE ANSETT A PICNIC, GRABBING WHATEVER THEY CAN. THIS IS A HISTORICAL DISTRICT. IT HAS BEEN THAT WAY. IT'S ON THE, UH, HIS, UH, NATIONAL REGISTER. AND WE DON'T WANT SOMETHING COMING IN THAT'S GOING TO DEFLECT FROM THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER. NOT TO MENTION THE TRAFFIC. TRAFFIC IS ALREADY BAD. MORE AND MORE CARS ON THE ROAD AND THEY'RE GONNA START, THEY'RE ALREADY COMING THROUGH MONTE VISTA. I LIVE ON A HILL, A MULBERRY. IT'S LIKE A RACETRACK. AND IN FACT, DON'T EVEN CONSIDER STOP SIGNS. JUST, JUST GO. SO ALL OF THESE FACTORS TAKE AWAY FROM THE CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS ALWAYS A CHALLENGE IN SAN ANTONIO. AND THEY ALSO TAKE AWAY THE QUALITY OF LIFE. SO WHEN YOU COME INTO THIS HISTORICAL DISTRICT AND THINK YOU'RE GONNA PUT SOMETHING UP LIKE THAT, DID IT NOT EVEN OCCUR TO YOU THAT MAYBE THIS ISN'T GONNA WORK? THAT MAYBE YOU NEED TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT YOU SHOULD BE BUILDING, NOT SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T FIT. SO AS I'VE SAID, VERY OPPOSED THANK YOU MS. KENNEDY. MS. LIZ BRAUN AND WHO'S GONNA FOLLOW MS. BRAUN? MS. ANN VAN PELT. ALRIGHT, MS. VAN PELT, YOU'RE PERFECTLY SITUATED. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. PRETTY MUCH I HAD MADE MY TRUSTED LITTLE SPEECH, BUT, UM, PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING'S BEEN SAID. I DO WANT TO ONCE AGAIN HAMMER ON THE FACT THAT, UH, OH, BY THE WAY, UH, MY ADDRESS IS 4 27 EAST HILDEBRAND. I AM LIKE, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK FROM MY BEDROOM WINDOW TO LOOK OVER TO SEE THESE APARTMENTS. UH, BUT I WANNA ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC. THERE IS NOT ENOUGH THAT CAN BE SAID ABOUT HOW BAD THE TRAFFIC IS WITH TRINITY PUTTING THE LIGHT THERE. I FINALLY HAD TO TRADE IN MY LITTLE SPORTS CAR BECAUSE I COULDN'T TURN INTO MY OWN DRIVE WITHOUT FEARING THAT SOMEONE WAS GOING TO RAM ME FROM BEHIND. THAT'S HOW BAD THE TRAFFIC IS. THEY GO PROBABLY, I THINK WE'VE CLOCKED THEM AS FAST AS 65 DOWN THAT STREET. SO IT IS OUTRAGEOUS. NOT TO MENTION IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING, THIS DOES NOT FIT OUR HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOOD. HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOODS WERE MEANT TO PRESERVE CHARACTER AND PERSONALITY AND THE ERA IN WHICH THEY WERE BUILT. AND THIS DOES NOT REPRESENT ANY OF THAT. THAT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE. I IT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT PROJECT. I, I, I THINK IT SOUNDS GREAT, BUT IT DOESN'T BELONG ON WHATEVER, WHATEVER THE ADDRESS IS. 'CAUSE IT STILL HASN'T BEEN REPLANTED. IT'S NOT 4 56 OR 4 46 OR WHATEVER. IT'S, THAT'S JUST NOT, IT DOESN'T BELONG THERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU MS. BROWN. ALRIGHT, MS. VAN PELT AND AFTER MS. VAN PELT, MS. ANN HAGELSTEIN, AFTER MS. ANN VAN PELT, YOU BRING UP, UH, MS. HAGELSTEIN. YES. IF YOU WANNA START HEADING UP, IF YOU'RE NOT CLOSELY SORRY. MS. HI, I'M ANN VAN PELT. I LIVE AT 1 1 9 WEST ATCH. UM, I WANNA TALK ABOUT NOT THE PROJECT AT ALL. I, I DON'T EVEN WANNA TALK ABOUT THE MERITS OF THE PROJECT. I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT HILDEBRAND AND I REALLY WANT TO SEE THIS MAP. SOMETHING YOU HAVE SIMILAR, WHERE IT SHOWS HILDEBRAND IS A STREET HILDEBRAND, THE SECTION OF HOUSES ALL FACE OUT. VERY IMPORTANT. THESE ARE NOT BACK FACING HOUSES. THIS IS NOT A SUBDIVISION, THIS IS A HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED FOR 50 YEARS. IT'S SOMETHING TO BE CELEBRATED. AND THIS, BECAUSE I CAN'T GET YOU THE MAP. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE VERY NORTHEAST CORNER, THE ANCHOR OF MONTE VISTA FROM TRINITY UNIVERSITY. SO WE ARE, THIS IS OUR, THIS IS OUR ANCHOR SPOT. THIS SAYS, WE ARE STILL MONTE VISTA. WE ARE RESIDENTIAL, [02:55:01] WE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES FACING A BUSY STREET. THESE PEOPLE DIDN'T PUT UP WALLS, THEY PUT UP, THEIR HOUSES ARE FACING THE STREET. I THINK WE NEED TO PRESERVE THAT CHARACTER. I THINK, I DON'T WANT TO, I I THINK THE GENTLEMAN PROBABLY HAS A GREAT PROJECT AND IT MIGHT BE GREAT IN ANOTHER LOT IN MONTE VISTA, BUT NOT ON HILDEBRAND. THESE PEOPLE ARE THE ANCHOR OF MONTE VISTA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. VAN PELT. MS. HAGELSTEIN, AND THEN MS. ROOSEVELT. GABRIEL. HELLO, I'M ANN HAGELSTEIN AND I LIVE AT 4 27 EAST HILDEBRAND, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE, THE BUILDING LOCATION. UM, MY FAMILY'S OWNED THAT HOUSE SINCE 1938. MY GRANDPARENTS BOUGHT IT. MY FATHER GREW UP THERE WHEN MY GRANDPARENTS PASSED AWAY, I, I BOUGHT IT FROM THE ESTATE, THE STREET. I'VE WATCHED THE STREET. I'M 59 YEARS OLD, SO I'VE HAD A LOT OF YEARS OF WATCHING THE CHANGE IN THE, THE TRAFFIC AND WHAT'S GOING ON. YOU KNOW, THE LAWS ARE NOT ABIDED ON THE STREET. WE GET 18 WHEELERS, WE GET GAS TRUCKS DRIVING THROUGH THERE EXCESSIVELY. YOU KNOW, THE AVERAGE SPEED, WHICH HE DEMONSTRATED ON HIS SLIDESHOW IS 43 MILES AN HOUR. THE SPEED LIMIT'S 35. AND I'VE HAD ONE CAR HIT AND WE GOT SUED TRYING TO PULL OUT OF OUR DRIVEWAY. AND THEN THEY WANT TO PUT MORE TRAFFIC ON HILDEBRAND BUILDING THESE, UH, THESE APARTMENTS. I'M IN THE RENTAL PROPERTY BUSINESS. I UNDERSTAND. BUT THIS BUILDING IN A HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ALL OF THESE HOMES THAT ARE A HUNDRED PLUS YEARS OLD, THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR IS GONNA, IS 102. WE'RE 96 AND EVERYBODY AROUND US IS VIRTUALLY AROUND THAT AGE. THE, YOU KNOW, HE TALKS ABOUT BUILDING GREEN. WELL, HE IS TEARING DOWN GREEN TO BUILD GREEN, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S MORE GREEN THAN TREES? AND WE HAVE TO HAVE GREEN SPACE SOMEWHERE. WE CAN'T JUST ALL BE CEMENT AND, YOU KNOW, AND BRICKS AND WHATEVER'S BEING BUILT, THERE ARE OVERBUILDING IN THAT WHOLE AREA. BROADWAY, MULBERRY, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE AREAS. BUT THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THE, THE DRIVABILITY OF THE COMMUNITY. TRINITY PUT IN THAT NEW ENTRANCE. WE THOUGHT MAYBE IT'LL MAKE IT BETTER. IT HADN'T, IT'S MADE IT WORSE. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIX THIS. I KNOW THIS CAN BE STOPPED TO WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THIS. AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE POLICE THAT USED TO SIT IN OUR DRIVEWAY AND NOW THEY DON'T EVEN COME. . THANK YOU MS. HAGELSTEIN. UHHUH. . ALRIGHT, MS. GABRIEL AND THEN MR. RICK WILSON. ALRIGHT, UH, MR. WILSON, YOU'VE ALREADY POSITIONED YOURSELF. HELLO, MY NAME IS, UH, RABEL L GABRIEL, AND I LIVE AT 4 21 EAST SBR. SO I LIVE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF, OF, UH, THE PROPOSED AREA. I'D LIKE TO ASK MR. BOWMAN, DO YOU LIVE IN MONTE VISTA? NO, NOT AT THIS TIME. WHAT, WHAT SUBDIVISION OR WHAT AREA DO YOU LIVE? WE LIVE BY WOODLAWN LAKE, UM, SSO AND OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION. OH, OKAY. WELL, I JUST, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE THAT ARE TALKING TO YOU ARE PEOPLE THAT DRIVE EAST HILDEBRAND EVERY SINGLE DAY. EVERY MORNING, NOT, WE DON'T HEAR THE SOUNDS OF A, OF A TRASH TRUCK COMING BY. WE HEAR THE SOUNDS OF HORNS AND PEOPLE CUSSING AT EACH OTHER. I'M WAITING FOR THE ROAD RAGE ACCIDENT TO HAPPEN ON EAST HILDEBRAND. MY HUSBAND, JUST TO GET OUT OF OUR PROPERTY, TO TAKE OUR OUR DAUGHTER TO SCHOOL IN THE MORNING. IT'S, IT'S CRAZY. I'M USED TO HEARING HIM SAY, YOU KNOW, AND I JUST TELL, AND OF COURSE OUR DAUGHTER TELLS HIM TO, YOU KNOW, CALM DOWN. THESE ARE NOT UPPITY PEOPLE TALKING TO YOU TODAY. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT DRIVE EAST HILDEBRAND EVERY SINGLE DAY. WE KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE. WE SEE WHAT HAPPENS. THERE ARE 18 WHEELERS THAT ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE GOING HILDEBRAND. AND I'M WAITING FOR, AGAIN, THE ACCIDENT TO HAPPEN. THERE'S A HILL THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, GOING TOWARDS STADIUM DRIVE AND YOU, IF, IF THERE ARE EITHER CARS COMING THIS WAY OR CARS GOING THAT WAY, MY NEIGHBOR DIDN'T MENTION THE POLICE CAR THAT SHE HAD DRIVING TO HER YARD. OUR SECURITY CAMERAS NOW INCLUDE PART OF THE STREET BECAUSE WE'VE HAD TO PROVIDE THEM FOR ALL THE ACCIDENTS THAT WE HAVE HAPPENING IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE. SOMETIMES WE FEEL LIKE PRISONERS THERE. AND AGAIN, WHETHER SOMEBODY HAS A HOUSE OF 16,000 SQUARE FEET OR, YOU KNOW, A THOUSAND SQUARE, IT SHOULDN'T MATTER. IT'S OUR HOME. IT'S OUR RESIDENCE. AND SO I ASKED MR. BO, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IF IT, IF YOU HAD THAT HAPPEN TO YOU? AND I CAN PROMISE YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE TIME. THANK YOU MS. GABRIELLE. MR. WILSON. AND THEN WE HAVE MS. GLORIA URIBE. [03:00:01] MS. URIBE, IF YOU MOVE TO THE FRONT. MR. WILSON. HI, I AM RICK WILSON. I'M AT, UH, ONE 10 WEST SSIR, FEW BLOCKS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT. I AM ALSO ON THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE OF MONTE VISTA. AND I AM, UH, WANT TO SAY THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE BEN'S, UH, PASSION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT'S AN ENTHUSIASM THAT I SHARE. I AM HEADING UP A WORKING GROUP THAT IS TRYING TO LOOK AT WAYS THAT AS A HISTORIC DISTRICT, WE CAN PARTNER WITH THE CITY AND WITH THE, UH, OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND SOME OF THE NEW INITIATIVES THAT THEY'RE DOING AND OTHER HISTORIC DISTRICTS TO HELP EVOLVE AND ADAPT OUR COMMUNITIES TO RESPOND TO A VERY REAL PROBLEM THAT CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE FACING. I I THINK THAT'S UNDENIABLE. WE ARE ALREADY A VERY DIVERSE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE BUNGALOWS, WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY, BIGGER HOMES, WE HAVE APARTMENTS. WE EMBRACE DIVERSITY IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT IT'S NOT EITHER OR IT'S NOT PRESERVATION OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE THINK THAT WE CAN FIND SOME COMMON GROUND BY WORKING COLLABORATIVELY AND THOUGHTFULLY IN PLANNING OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT IN CORRIDORS, JUST LIKE SA TOMORROW, PRIORITIZE VERY SPECIFIC QUARTERS OF WHICH THIS IS NOT ONE. UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO PRIORITIZE SPECIFIC QUARTERS. MY FINAL COMMENT IS THAT THE, I DZ TWO OR ONE BOTH WERE MENTIONED CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY DOWN THE ROAD FOR COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR IN MONTE VISTA. AND WE WOULD BE REALLY, REALLY DISAPPOINTED BY THAT. AND WHILE BEN'S INTENTIONS ARE GOOD, I THINK ONCE HE, HE HAS SHARED WITH US THAT HE'S GONNA BE DOING A LOT OF THE CONSTRUCTION WORK HIMSELF. I THINK WHEN HE COMES UP AGAINST SOME OF THE H D R C REQUIREMENTS, IF HE WERE TO BACK OUT OF THIS DEAL, WE NOW HAVE A PERMANENT CONVERSION OF A RESIDENTIAL LOT INTO A, UH, A COMMERCIAL OFFICE, MULTI-FAMILY OPPORTUNITY. FINALLY, I'LL SAY GOODBYE. THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. WILSON. UH, MS. REBA AND THEN, UM, HER HUSBAND MR. THOMAS IS AFTERWARDS. NO, WE'RE BOTH GONNA COME OUT. OKAY. HE'S MY SUPPORT. GOT IT. , I'M GLORIA URIBE, 2 0 2 WEST HOLLYWOOD AVENUE. AND MY HUSBAND TOM, MY SUPPORT, UH, WE, I AGREE WITH EVERYBODY THAT I POSTED AND I AM TRULY, TRULY, UH, UPSET ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE, WE LIVE ON THE CORNER OF HOWARD AND HOLLYWOOD. WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC THAT THEY TAKE A SHORTCUT THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT CREATES A LOT OF, UH, SPEAKING OF HILDEBRAND, TRYING TO GET OUT, US TRYING TO GET OUT ON OUR SIDE DRIVEWAY IS SOMETIMES VERY, VERY HARD BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC. SO THIS PEOPLE JUST TAKE A DETOUR THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THAT IS OUR VERY BIG CONCERN. AND OF COURSE THE CHANGING OF THE, OF THE REZONING IS, IS IMPORTANT TO US. I AM TOM VE, I'M GLORIA'S HUSBAND. I, UH, I SIGNED THAT NOTE, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS A SPEAKER'S LIST. BUT, UH, EVERYTHING'S ALREADY BEEN SAID. UH, I REALLY AM OPPOSED TO THIS BECAUSE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, OUR GREAT NEIGHBORS. UH, AND I JUST, I JUST LOOK UPON THIS DEVELOPMENT AS CHANGING THE CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBOR, OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, AND I, I'D LIKE TO SHARE ABOUT HILDEBRAND AND THE TRAFFIC. I WOULD PICK UP MY GRANDDAUGHTER FROM KEYSTONE AND ONE DAY I WENT UP MCCULLOUGH AND HAD A CHORE AND I TURNED ON HILDEBRAND AND GOT STUCK IN THE TRAFFIC. AND THIS IS MY GRANDDAUGHTER IN THE BACK SAYING, , YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN TO COME ON HILDEBRAND. SO IT JUST GOES THAT THIS PROBLEM IS NOT GOING TO BE SOLVED OR HELPED BY ADDING ON A MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PRO, UH, PROJECT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND, AND HEARING US TODAY. THANK YOU MUCH. THANK YOU MR. AND MS. MRS. RBE. NEXT WE HAVE A MS. MARY MARTIN AND THEN MS. COTTON ESTES AFTERWARDS. MARY MARY IS NOT HERE. OKAY. UH, MS. ESTES AND THEN, UH, MR. NICHOLAS RIVER. OKAY, MR. ARD AND YOU'LL BE UP AFTER MS. ESTES. HELLO EVERYONE. MY NAME IS COTTON ES. I'M THE DESIGN ARCHITECT ON THIS PROJECT. MY ADDRESS IS 6 0 6 DAWSON STREET, 4 5 4 EAST HILL. THE BRAND IS AN EXAMPLE OF MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING. THE NEED FOR THIS TYPE OF HOUSING IS EVIDENCED IN WEEKLY HEADLINES TO CRYING THE LACK OF HOUSING OPTIONS AND ALTERNATIVES TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. [03:05:01] IT MAKES ME SO PROUD TO LIVE IN A CITY THAT HAS ADOPTED A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO HELP ANSWER THIS NEED. IMPLEMENTING THESE GOALS REQUIR AN OPEN MIND AND SERIOUS CONSIDERATION OF ALTERNATIVE MODELS OF HOUSING, SUCH AS SMALL RENTALS, FORM-BASED DEVELOPMENT, DENSITY AND FILL BALANCED WITH OPEN SPACE AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION. 14 UNITS MAY SOUND LIKE A LOT, HOWEVER, PLEASE CONSIDER THE SPECIFICS OF THIS REZONING REQUEST LOCATED ON AN ARTERIAL CONNECTOR ALONG A VIA BUS ROUTE, BORDERING INSTITUTIONAL AND RESIDENTIAL USES. THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE SITE FOR TRANSITIONAL MID-SCALE INFILL. THE PROPOSED BUILDING MASSING SETBACKS AND HEIGHTS ARE IN KEEPING WITH THOSE OF NEIGHBORING HOMES AND PROVIDE A SMOOTH TRANSITION BETWEEN ADDRESSING LAND USES. ALSO AT A QUICK ASIDE THAT THIS WILL BE DETERMINED, ENLARGED BY THE HISTORICAL REVIEW BOARD, UM, THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE AND STORM WATER MITIGATION OUT MEASURE THAT OF SIX OF SEVEN OF THE NEIGHBORING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH I D Z ZONING. THE DEVELOPER IS COMMITTED TO THESE STANDARDS WHICH MAKE THE PROJECT BOTH COMPATIBLE, MEASURABLY COMPATIBLE WITH ITS CONTEXT AND HIGHLY SUSTAINABLE BY COMPARISON. THESE 14 UNITS CAN ABSOLUTELY BE DESIGNED IN A WAY THAT IS SENSITIVE TO THE HISTORY'S, THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S UNIQUE HISTORY AND CHARACTER. WHILE PROVIDING THIS DESPERATE, DESPERATELY NEEDED MODEL OF INFILL HOUSING, MIDDLE HOUSING IS MISSING FOR A A REASON IT IS HARD TO DO. MAY I FINISH? THANK YOU MS. ESTES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, MR. VAR. AND THEN MS. UH, MARILYN MARTINEZ. HELLO, I'M NICHOLAS VAR 6 0 5 NOLAN. UM, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I KNOW IT'S THANKLESS WORK. UM, I'M A LIFELONG SAN ANTONIAN, UM, A LICENSED ARCHITECT AND THE PREVIOUS PRESIDENT OF THE DIGNITY HILL, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. SO I DON'T LIVE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMICS AROUND HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. AND IN THE FIVE YEARS THAT I SERVED ON THE BOARD THERE, WE WORKED WITH A LOT OF DEVELOPERS AND I JUST WANT TO IMPRESS UPON YOU AS WELL AS THE POTENTIAL NEIGHBORS OF THIS PROJECT, THAT YOU WILL NOT FIND A BETTER DEVELOPMENT TEAM THAN THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS. UM, AND SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO, UH, APPROVE THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST BECAUSE THAT'S OPTION A. OPTION B IS THE LOT WILL BE SOLD TO A LESS COMPETENT DEVELOPER AND SOMETHING WORSE AND UGLIER WILL BE PUT THERE. UM, THIS PROJECT IS EXACTLY WHAT IS CALLED FOR IN ALL OF SAN ANTONIO'S CITYWIDE PLANNING DOCUMENTS. AND FRANKLY, A VOCAL MINORITY OF LOCAL RESIDENTS SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO OVERRIDE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF HOURS OF COMMUNITY INPUT FROM ACROSS THE CITY THAT SHAPE THAT DOCUMENT. THAT SHOULD BE THE PRIORITY. SO, UM, I THINK I'LL JUST LEAVE IT THERE. I KNOW WE'RE ALL TIRED OF BEING HERE, BUT, UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU MR. VAR. MS. MARTINEZ, AND THEN SHE'S THE LAST ONE. ALRIGHT, MS. MARTINEZ, THE LAST WORD. NO. YES, I'LL MAKE THIS VERY LONG. UM, SO I KNOW WE'VE ALREADY MENTIONED A LOT ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AND THE CONGESTION, SO I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID. I LIVE ON 4 33 EAST HILDEBRAND. IT'S THE MA'AM. BEAUTIFUL. I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. DO YOU MIND PULLING THE MICROPHONE DOWN PLEASE? I'M SORRY. THERE YOU GO. CAN YOU, NOW WE CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY. YES. SO I LIVE ON 4 33 EAST HILDEBRAND RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE EMPTY LOT IN WHICH THEY WANT TO, UM, AT SOME AFFORDABLE, UM, HOUSING UNITS. AND, UM, SO I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT AGAIN ABOUT THE CONGESTION, BUT WHAT I DO WANNA, UH, EMPHASIZE IS THAT I DO, UM, I JUST MOVED INTO THE HOUSE, YOU KNOW, A YEAR AGO, UM, AFTER MOVING FROM DORADO, TEXAS SO THAT MY DEAF SON CAN ATTEND SUNSHINE COTTAGE SCHOOL FOR DEAF CHILDREN RIGHT NEXT DOOR. I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET AN AMAZING, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE THIS HOME. I COME FROM A MIDDLE CLASS FAMILY, I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, WANT SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND SO FORTH. I GET IT. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT'S WHAT MAKES US WANNA WORK A LITTLE HARDER SO THAT WE CAN GET INTO THESE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SO DESPERATELY WANNA GET INTO. IN MY CASE, I WAS SO DESPERATE TO GET INTO MONTE VISTA BECAUSE I DID NOT WANNA DRIVE AN HOUR FROM, YOU KNOW, BANDERA AND 1604 TO ATTEND SUNSHINE COTTAGE. I'M NOT THE ONLY PARENT THAT IS DRIVING EAST ON HILDEBRAND. NO ONE HAS MENTIONED SUNSHINE COTTAGE, BUT I'M SPEAKING AS FOR MYSELF, OF COURSE, IT'S RIDICULOUSLY DANGEROUS TAKING A LEFT ON A HILDEBRAND. UM, THE SUN IS IN YOUR FACE, YOU'RE GOING UP THE HILL AND SO FORTH, BUT I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE. THERE'S 354 OTHER PARENTS THAT ARE DRIVING, YOU KNOW, ON HILDEBRAND WANTING TO TAKE A LEFT ON SUNSHINE COTTAGE. IF YOU, UH, LOOK AT THE MAP, UM, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH BEHIND [03:10:01] THE CITY, WHATEVER APARTMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY ALREADY THERE BECAUSE YOU CANNOT TAKE A LEFT ON DIVINE EITHER. SO, UM, JUST PLEASE CONSIDER MYSELF, CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, IN A WORLD WHERE WE CAN'T EVEN HAVE FEDEX DRIVERS, YOU KNOW, PASS THROUGH YOUR, YOU KNOW, GO DROP SOMETHING OFF AT YOUR, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR PROPERTY. I MEAN, I HAVE MY KIDS, I HAVE A 13 MONTH OLD, I HAVE A EIGHT YEAR OLD, YOU KNOW, AND SO IT'S VERY DANGEROUS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. MARTINEZ. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UH, MR. BO BOWMAN, UH, THREE MINUTE REBUTTAL. THANK YOU GUYS AGAIN. SO I ALSO DRIVE EAST HILDERBRAND EVERY DAY. I ABSOLUTELY HATE IT. I'D BE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU A SYNOPSIS IN A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS OF THIS AREA IF YOU'D LIKE IT. BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEED THIS TIME IN THE EFFORT OF WORKING THROUGH THE CONVERSATION IN AN EXPEDITIOUS MANNER. THANK YOU SIR. ALRIGHT, THIS IS A DISTRICT ONE CASE, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. OKAY. UH, AND I WILL MAKE QUESTIONS BRIEF TO ALLOW THAT, 'CAUSE I, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS, SO, UM, I, I'LL BE BRIEF IN MY QUESTIONS SO OTHER FOLKS CAN, CAN ASK THE ONES THAT THEY'D LIKE TO. UM, THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT, UM, MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING. AND OBVIOUSLY YOU PUT UP, UM, ON THE PRESENTATION, THE AMIS THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE TARGETING AS WELL AS THE PROJECTED RENT. UM, AND WE'VE ALREADY HAD THIS CONVERSATION, SO, UM, BUT ARE YOU GONNA BE PUTTING ANY TYPE OF RENT RESTRICTION OR RESTRICTIVE COVENANT THAT IS GOING TO LIMIT THE AMIS OF THE RESIDENTS OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY? I THINK THAT'S A FANTASTIC PLACE TO START THIS CONVERSATION. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ARE A FARM LEAGUE TEAM, AND I AM THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT TEAM. AND I CAN SAY WITH CONFIDENCE THAT WE DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND THE RAMIFICATIONS OF MAKING THAT COMMITMENT. WE FIRST AND FOREMOST TRY TO PROVIDE GREAT QUALITY ARCHITECTURE TO PEOPLE WHO COULDN'T OTHERWISE HAVE ACCESS TO IT. AND TO MAKE THAT COMMITMENT, I'M AFRAID, COULD HAVE PUT US IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE MAKING PROMISES THAT WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO KEEP. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'VE, WE'VE GOT A CLEAR DEMONSTRATED HISTORY OF OPTING INTO THIS PROGRAM. WE BELIEVE IN IT AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT REGARDLESS OF WHERE WE'RE WORKING. BUT I'M, I'M HESITANT TO MAKE THAT COMMITMENT BECAUSE I THINK YOU KNOW BETTER THAN I'D BE UNFAIR TO ASK FOR FREE LEGAL ADVICE IN THIS FORUM TO KNOW UNDER FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN. I, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. AND SO YOU MENTIONED, UM, OTHER PROJECTS WHERE YOU'VE OPTED INTO THAT. UM, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU CHARGING FOR YOUR RENTS AT THOSE OTHER PROJECTS? WE'VE GOT SPACE AT $800 A MONTH, WHICH IS BRAND NEW SPACE AND IT TAKES A LOT OF CREATIVE WORK TO GET THAT DONE IN THAT SAME PROJECT. WE'VE GOT A UNIT THAT IS 26 50 A MONTH, AND THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF FACTORS THAT HAVE CHANGED LATELY AND I PERFORMED THE GC WORK FOR THESE PROJECTS. SO I'M INTIMATELY FAMILIAR WITH CONSTRUCTION IMPLICATIONS AND SUPPLY CHAIN PROBLEMS AND THINGS ARE REALLY DYNAMIC RIGHT NOW. BUT ON THAT PROJECT WE REACHED DOWN TO $800 A MONTH AND UP TO 26 50 A MONTH. AND THE DIVERSITY IS WHAT HAS GOTTEN THAT PROJECT RECOGNITION. AND WE THINK IT'S HYPER CRITICAL IN A CONDITION LIKE MONTE VISTA WHERE THOSE AMIS ARE OFF THE CHART FOR THE MOST PART, TO PROVIDE A COUPLE MORE OPTIONS FOR A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO FRANKLY HELP OUR LIVES CONTINUE TO MOVE. OKAY, THANKS. UM, FOR STAFF, UM, WE HAD A LOT OF, UM, EMAILS THAT CAME IN. UM, DID YOU GUYS TRACK THE OPPOSITION AND IN FAVOR BASED ON LOCATION IN THE CITY BY ANY CHANCE? WELL, I MEAN, WHEN WE GET NOTICES, WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE ONES WITHIN THE 200 FEET. RIGHT. BUT THERE WAS, SO I THINK EARLIER WE TALKED ABOUT LIKE OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FEET. RIGHT. OKAY. SO ANN CAN BREAK THAT DOWN FOR YOU. MM-HMM. , SO OUTSIDE 200 FEET THERE WERE 52 IN FAVOR AND 40 OPPOSED. OF THOSE 52 AND 40, MOST OF THEM WERE IN SAN ANTONIO. THERE WERE TWO IN FAVOR THAT WERE OUTSIDE SAN ANTONIO FORMER RESIDENTS. UM, BUT OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FEET BOUNDARY WE DIDN'T. AND THEN OF COURSE, TRACKING ADDRESSES, WE DIDN'T EXACTLY TRACK WHICH ONES WERE IN SAN ANTONIO, BUT I COULD DEFINITELY DO THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, WE HAVE ALL OF THE ADDRESSES. OKAY, THANKS. I'LL, WE CAN LET EVERYBODY ELSE ASK THEIR QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER SIPES. UH, QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, THERE WAS A CONCERN MENTIONED BY ONE OF THE, UH, RESIDENTS ABOUT IF THE DEVELOPER LEAVES THE PROJECT, THEN THEY, THE, THE ZONING IS, IS UH, IN PERPETUITY. BUT, BUT THAT THERE, BUT THAT SOMETHING ELSE COULD COME IN. I DZ TWO REQUIRES, WAIT, WE'RE DOING I D Z TWO, RIGHT? OR I Z ONE. OKAY. I D Z REQUIRES A A SITE PLAN, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. AND SO THAT SITE PLAN THAT'S TIED TO THE ORDINANCE [03:15:01] IS WHAT IS ALLOWED. OKAY. IF THERE'S ANY DEVIATION FROM THAT, IT'LL REQUIRE UH, A MAJOR AMENDMENT WHICH COMES THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS AGAIN. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANKS TO MY RIGHT COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, COMMERS TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER KAMATH , UH, THIS QUESTION IS FOR THE DEVELOPER. THE, UH, WOULD YOU BE, UH, UH, INTERESTED, UH, TAKING THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CITY STAFF TO GO WITH THE SIX DWELLING UNITS? WILL THAT MAKE IT FINANCIALLY, FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE FOR YOU? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT QUESTION. THAT WOULD BE FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE FOR SOMEONE. IT DOES NOT ALIGN WITH WHERE WE SEE THE VALUES OF THIS PROJECT. AND TO DRAMATICALLY OVERSIMPLIFY THIS, IF WE CUT THE UNIT COUNTS IN PRICE, WE'VE CUT THE UNIT COUNTS IN HALF, WE HAVE TO DOUBLE THE PRICES AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S NO LONGER A MISSION FIT FOR US. SO WHEN I THINK ABOUT SIX INDIVIDUAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON A 0.6 ACRE LOT, WHICH IS QUITE LARGE, THAT SOUNDS LIKE SPEC HOUSING TO ME. AND NOT TO DISCOURAGE SPEC HOUSING 'CAUSE IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR SYSTEM, BUT THAT'S NOT WHERE WE SHINE AND IT'S NOT WHERE WE CAN PROVIDE THE MOST VALUE AND DO THE PROJECT THAT WE CAN FALL IN LOVE WITH SO MUCH THAT WE CAN DO A REALLY GOOD JOB. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KAMATH FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT. ALRIGHT, UM, AND I'M GONNA HIT THIS AGAIN 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, UM, STAFF. SO WHEN YOU SAY THEY ARE TIED TO THE SITE PLAN IN THIS INSTANCE, THAT MEANS BECAUSE THE SITE PLAN SPECIFICALLY SAYS RESIDENTIAL, IF THEY WANTED TO DO COMMERCIAL OR OFFICE SPACE, THEY COULD NOT WITHOUT COMING BACK BEFORE THIS BODY, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UH, MR. BOWMAN, BEHIND THIS PROPERTY, UH, BETWEEN HILDEBRAND AND ROSEWOOD, THERE IS WHAT'S ON YOUR PLAN IDENTIFIED AS AN UNIMPROVED RIGHT OF WAY UNIMPROVED ALLEY, RIGHT OF WAY. UH, I TAKE IT THAT MEANS THAT THERE IS NO POSSIBILITY OF ENTERING OR EXITING FROM THAT AREA. IS THAT CORRECT? PRACTICALLY NO. THAT CITY PROPERTY AND TO GET THERE THROUGH OTHER CITY PROPERTY IS 700 FEET OF PAVING AN ALLEY, WHICH I HAPPEN TO KNOW THIS PROJECT VERY MUCH COULD NOT AFFORD TO DO SO EFFECTIVELY IT'S AN, IT'S A NON OPPORTUNITY. ALRIGHT. SO JUST, JUST TO BE CLEAR, SINCE I DON'T HAVE A GOOD SENSE OF THAT SCALE, IS THAT LIKE TWO OR THREE LOTS DOWN HILDEBRAND FROM WHERE YOU ARE? THAT'S 700 FEET. IT'S LIKE SIX LOTS DOWN AND THESE LOTS ARE VERY ATYPICALLY LARGE. EACH IS ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET WIDE AND THAT'S SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN THE STANDARD R FIVE LOT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, AND STAFF, UH, TO YOU, UH, BRIEFLY JUST TO SORT OF INDICATE WHAT OUR ROLE IS HERE. OUR ROLE IS NOT TO CONSIDER THE DESIGN, BUT IT IS TO CONSIDER THE LAND USE AS THE ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. THE LAND USE AND THE SURROUNDING ZONING AND WHETHER THE INTENSITY AND THE REQUEST OF THE ZONING FITS WITH THE AREA. GREAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DO YOU WANT FOLLOW UP TO YOUR PREVIOUS, UM, I WAS JUST GONNA ASK IF THEY HAD, WERE YOU GUYS ABLE TO TRACK THE, UM, THE LOCATION OF THE OPPOSITION ON, IN THE, IN FAVOR ON THE EMAILS THAT WE RECEIVED? I ? UM, YES. SO I WOULD SAY THAT APPROXIMATELY 80% OF THE NOTICES RECEIVED BACK WERE IN DISTRICT ONE. I WOULD SAY MOST OF THE OPPOSITION WAS IN MONTEVISTA, BUT SOME OF THE SUPPORT ALSO WAS IN MONTEVISTA. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? LAST CALL. OH, AND COMMISSIONER WATSON, I DIDN'T EVEN ASK YOU COMMISSIONER WATSON QUESTIONS. I JUST HAVE ONE CLARIFYING QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. CAN YOU CONFIRM WHICH STREET YOUR INGRESS AND EGRESS IS GOING TO BE? SINCE I'M VIRTUAL, I DID NOT GET AS GREAT A VISUAL ON YOUR SITE PLAN. NO PROBLEM. UM, SO WE WILL PROPOSE TWO NEW CURB CUTS. ONE IS IN THE, ONE IS IN THE LOCATION OF THE EXISTING CURB CUT. SO WE'LL HAVE A DEDICATED ONE WAY INGRESS WITH THE ABILITY TO STACK AND ENTER AT A HIGH SPEED AND A ONE-WAY EGRESS BOTH OFF OF HILDEBRAND. THAT WILL ALSO ALLOW STACKING FOR THE EXIT MOTION. SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE FOLKS A VERY FAIR SHOT AT A 90 DEGREE EXIT ONTO HILDEBRAND. AND PART OF THE ISSUE WITH THELMA IS THAT IT'S AN OBLIQUE STREET, WHICH WE'VE TRIED TO PLAN OUT OVER THE YEARS AND IT MAKES A HARD TURN THAT IS VERY HARD TO MAKE THAT MOTION. SO IT'S NO SURPRISE THAT MAKING THAT CORNER IS REAL TOUGH. BUT WE'RE VERY SPECIFICALLY DESIGNING THIS SITE TO ACCOMMODATE STACKING AND THE VERY HIGH TRAFFIC SPEED BECAUSE WE COMPLETELY AGREE THAT HILDEBRANDS CONGESTED AND THAT'S [03:20:01] SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENED OVER TIME WITH THIS HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HILDEBRAND BEING AN ARTERIAL CORRIDOR WAS NEVER PART OF THE ORIGINAL PLAN. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMISSIONERS FINAL CALL. ALRIGHT, VERY WELL, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE TO YOU DO QUESTION? OH YEAH. COMMISSIONER REBUTS. YES. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. WHO OWNS THIS PIECE OF LAND? WHO OWNS THE LAND? HE DOES, DOES JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE AND THERE'S, I MEAN, I DRIVE THROUGH THERE ALL THE TIME, SO I KNOW HOW DIFFICULT THAT I, I CUT FROM 2 81 TO, TO THE BACK WHEN 2 81 GETS REALLY, UH, CUT IT THROUGH. SO, AND I GO TO TRINITY QUITE OFTEN. UM, SO THAT LOT RIGHT NOW IS EMPTY, IS THAT RIGHT? YES SIR. THERE'S ONE EXISTING HISTORIC SHED WHICH WE PLAN TO KEEP AND CELEBRATE. , YOU HAVE TO, WELL, I MEAN THE, WE HAVE DESIGNED A VIEW CORRIDOR FROM THE STREET TO SEE THE SHED. IT IS PART OF, WELL IT'S HISTORIC. WHY DID YOU BUY THE LINE? LADIES AND GENTLEMEN? THANK YOU. UM, THANK YOU ALL. ALRIGHT, ANYTHING FURTHER? COMMISSIONER BUTS. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. NOW COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION. OKAY, I GET MY QUESTIONS BRIEF BECAUSE MY COMMENTS PROBABLY ARE NOT LIKE COMMISSIONER SIPES. I PREPARED, I'VE PREPARED A FEW, A FEW WRITTEN COMMENTS. I'M NOT AS ORGANIZED, UM, OR CONCISE AS YOU, SO APOLOGIES IN ADVANCE, DON'T FIDGET . SO THIS IS A REALLY DIFFICULT CASE, UM, AS MANY OF YOU UP HERE KNOW, UM, I WORK IN, IN THE AREA OF HOUSING, UM, AND I ALSO LIVE IN THE AREA OF MONTE VISTA. SO, UM, THIS IS A GREAT INTERSECTION, A GREAT INTERSECTION OF, UM, MY MY LIVED EXPERIENCE AND MY WORK EXPERIENCE. UM, HOWEVER, DESPITE MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES AND OPINIONS, UM, AS A ZONING COMMISSIONER, WE ARE, UH, IMPLORED AND REQUIRED TO LOOK AT CERTAIN STANDARDS AND CERTAIN FACTORS WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT ZONING CASES. THOSE INCLUDE CONSISTENCY, ADVERSE IMPACTS ON SURROUNDING LAND, CURRENT, CURRENT ZONING, SUITABILITY, HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE, PUBLIC POLICY SIZE OF TRACT, AND ANY OTHER FACTORS THAT ARE ALLOWED TO BE CONSIDERED UNDER TEXAS LAW. UM, AND I TAKE THESE AS SORT OF A BALANCING TEST AND THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT THE U D C SAYS. NO SINGLE FACTOR IS CONTROLLING. INSTEAD EACH MUST BE WEIGHED IN RELATION TO THE OTHERS. UM, THE APPLICANT, UM, IN HIS CONVERSATIONS WITH ME FOCUSED QUITE, UM, HEAVILY ON PUBLIC POLICY. AND I'LL ADDRESS THAT MORE LATER, BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL THE FACTORS. UM, THE FIRST FACTOR IS CONSISTENCY. UM, AND MANY OF THE, THE COMMENTARY THAT WE HEARD WAS AROUND THIS. THE FACT THAT THIS IS A SINGLE FAMILY AREA OF, UH, THE MONTE VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, IT IS LOCATED NEXT TO TRINITY, WHICH IS, UM, AN INSTITUTIONAL USE, BUT THERE IS QUITE A LARGE BUFFER BETWEEN THAT AND EVEN THE PARKING AREA FOR DICKEY HALL, WHICH IS THE NEW BUILDING THAT WAS MENTIONED. UM, CONSISTENCY IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT. I MENTIONED EARLIER WITH RESPECT TO THE CASE IN DISTRICT SEVEN AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT, UM, A HISTORIC DISTRICT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE REST OF THE CITY, UM, BECAUSE WE'VE DETERMINED THAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, IS DESERVING OF PRESERVING ITS EXISTING CHARACTER. IN FACT, O H P GUIDELINES SAY AMONG MANY OTHER THINGS THAT ZONE REZONINGS MUST PRESERVE ARCHITECTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE DISTRICT AND PROVIDE SENSE OF COMMUNITY IDENTITY AND CONTINUITY FOR SITE PLANNING. AND I'LL ACTUALLY READ A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, OF THIS BECAUSE THIS IS A, I THINK SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T TYPICALLY LOOK AT VERY OFTEN AS ZONING COMMISSIONERS. UM, SO, UM, APPLICATIONS FOR REZONING DESIGNATED HISTORIC DISTRICTS HAVE OUTSTANDING HISTORICAL AND CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE WHEN CONSIDERING APPLICATIONS FOR REZONING RELATING TO HISTORIC DISTRICTS. ZONING COMMISSION SHALL APPLY THE FOLLOWING GOALS AND GUIDELINES, PRESERVE ARCHITECTURAL INTEGRITY, PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE BY FOSTERING COMPATIBLE LAND USES, PERMIT ONLY USES, WHICH WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITHIN THESE DISTRICTS, PREVENT USES, WHICH WOULD DETERIORATE THE DISTRICT, PROVIDE A SENSE OF COMMUNITY IDENTITY AND CONTINUITY FOR SITE PLANNING ISSUES. THEY NEED TO CONFORM AS CLOSELY AS POSSIBLE TO ESTABLISH ZONING REGULATIONS, PROTECT ADJACENT PROPERTY AND ENCOURAGE PRESERVATION, RESTORATION AND REVITALIZATION OF AND AND NEIGHBORHOOD INTEGRITY. SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE THAT THAT BACKGROUND 'CAUSE WE DON'T DISCUSS THAT VERY OFTEN AND I KNOW A LOT OF THE COMMISSIONERS UP HERE DON'T HAVE HISTORIC DISTRICTS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. SO WANT TO GET A KIND OF A, A BACKGROUND FOR THAT. SO, UM, THEY DOES SAY THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME FLEXIBILITY ENCOURAGED, BUT THAT SHOULDN'T DETRACT FROM THE OTHER GOALS AND GUIDELINES THAT HAVE BEEN OUTLINED BY O H P. UM, SO ADVERSE IMPACTS. WHAT ARE ADVERSE IMPACTS LOTS SHALL NOT BE REZONED IN A WAY THAT IS SUBSTANTIALLY INCONSISTENT WITH USES OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. THAT GOES [03:25:01] TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, THAT 14 UNITS AND 21 PARKING SPACES IN THE MIDDLE OF A BLOCK FACE THAT A SINGLE FAMILY IS NOT COMPATIBLE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE CRITERIA FOR THE HISTORIC REZONING, UM, APPLICATIONS THAT WE ARE TO CONSIDER, WHICH I JUST WENT THROUGH. THESE ARE LARGE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS. THAT IS THE HISTORICAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THIS PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. OBVIOUSLY NOT ALL OF MONTE VISTA'S THAT WAY, WHICH MANY FOLKS OUTLINED IN THEIR COMMENTS. UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY AN EXAMPLE OF A COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE IS EVERY TYPE OF HOUSING IN MONTE VISTA FROM LARGE MANSIONS TO SMALL AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS THAT ACCEPT SECTION EIGHT VOUCHERS THAT ARE VERY AFFORDABLE, UM, TO COMMERCIAL. WE HAVE EVERYTHING IN MONTE VISTA. CURRENT SUITABILITY, UM, SINGLE FAMILY IS THE CHARACTER OF THIS, OF THIS AREA. ALSO, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE MONTE VISTA PLAN, WHICH STAFF NEVER TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION BECAUSE IT WAS FROM 1988. THE CURRENT LAND USE OF THAT IS ALSO SINGLE FAMILY FOR THAT, UH, PARTICULAR LOT. UM, HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE. I DON'T THINK THAT I NEED TO GO THROUGH THAT. I THINK THAT THAT OUR COMMENTS, UM, FROM, FROM THE FOLKS LIVING IN THE AREA, UM, VERY MUCH OUTLINED THAT HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE IN THIS SITUATION WOULD BE THE TRAFFIC AND THE DANGEROUS NATURE OF HILDEBRAND. ONE THING THAT I DON'T THINK WAS REALLY OUTLINED, THIS IS PART OF HILDEBRAND WHERE IT GOES FROM TWO LANES DOWN TO ONE LANE AND IT IS TREACHEROUS DRIVING. I KNOW BECAUSE I DRIVE IT ALL THE TIME MYSELF. UM, AND THEN FINALLY, JUST TO TOUCH ON PUBLIC POLICY, 'CAUSE I COULD TALK FOR HOURS ON THIS AND YOU GUYS DON'T WANT TO HEAR ME ANYMORE. UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. UM, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, I, IT IS A, A REALLY NOBLE GOAL AND I REALLY RESPECT WHAT YOU DO. BUT THEN YOU KNOW THAT, BUT AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, ZONING IS MORE PERMANENT THAN MARRIAGE. UM, YOU CANNOT DIVORCE YOUR ZONING, YOU CANNOT DIVORCE YOUR NEIGHBOR, UM, . SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW, FOR THE BENEFIT OF SOME OF THE NEWER ZONING COMMISSIONERS. UM, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR THREE AND A HALF YEARS. THERE HAVE BEEN INSTANCES WHERE WE HAVE REZONED PROPERTIES, UM, AND MAYBE GIVEN MORE BENEFIT TO THE FACT THAT SOMEBODY SAYS THEY'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, UM, AND THEN THEY DON'T ACTUALLY DO IT AND THEY SELL THE PROPERTY TO SOMEONE ELSE AND THEN THEY COME BACK AND THEN THEY ASK FOR REZONING AGAIN BECAUSE HEY, YOU ALREADY REZONED IT THAT ONE TIME TO THAT ONE THING. CAN'T WE JUST GET A FEW MORE UNITS? I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO IF YOU GET HIT BY A TRUCK TOMORROW. , WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS. UM, YOU KNOW, THE ZONING IS IN PERPETUITY. SO WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT'S THE WORST CASE SCENARIO THAT COULD HAPPEN. I DO RECOGNIZE THIS AS I D Z. THERE WOULD BE A SITE PLAN, UM, THAT DOES NOT GUARANTEE THAT THERE CAN'T BE MAJOR AMENDMENTS OR CAN'T GU SORRY, MINOR AMENDMENTS, NOT MAJOR AMENDMENTS THAT WOULDN'T COME BACK THROUGH HERE. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS A WAY TO TOTALLY, UM, PREVENT INCOMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT JUST THROUGH THE SITE PLAN IN THIS PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCE. UM, FINALLY TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. UM, INCREASED DENSITY WHILE SUPPORTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING CAN ALSO DETRACT FROM AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE THE PROPERTY SURROUNDING THAT SUDDENLY BECOMES MORE, UM, UH, VALUABLE BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE MORE UNITS ON THAT. AND SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IF THERE ARE NOT RESTRICTIONS ON THAT, NUMBER ONE, YOU WERE NOT GUARANTEED THAT IT'S GOING TO STAY AFFORDABLE. AND NUMBER TWO, YOU COULD, UM, HAVE ADVERSE IMPACTS ON YOUR SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS BECAUSE WHEN B C AD GOES TO VALUE THAT PROPERTY, UM, IT'S GOING TO INCREASE REGARDLESS OF THE USE. UM, I'VE LOOKED AT A COUPLE OF PROPERTIES AROUND, UM, SOME OTHER DEVELOPMENTS SIMILAR TO THIS ONE. ONE OF THEM, THE LAND VALUATION WENT FROM 47,000 IN 2019 TO 75,000 IN 2023. JUST THE LAND, NOT THE IMPROVEMENTS WITH A HOMESTEAD CAP. SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND PRESERVING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT, UM, INDIRECTLY DISPLACING PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY THERE BY HAVING INCREASED DENSITY IN THOSE AREAS AND TAXING PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR HOMES. UM, LET'S SEE, WHAT OTHER NOTES DO I HAVE HERE? UM, FINALLY, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, AN IMPORTANT FACTOR FOR US TO CONSIDER AS ZONING COMMISSIONERS IS, UM, IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS TO SAY. UM, THE FOLKS THAT LIVE IN MONTE VISTA HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS LONG AFTER WE HEAR THIS CASE. UM, AND, AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA BE STUCK LIVING WITH IT. AND SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL AS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL. SO, UH, FOR THAT, WITH ALL OF THAT BEING SAID, I'M MAKING A MOTION FOR DENIAL OF ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, EIGHT OR NINE? NINE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THERE IS A MOTION FOR DENIAL OF ITEM NUMBER NINE BY [03:30:01] COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. I'LL SECOND THEN SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS. ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER WATSON, WE'RE GONNA START WITH YOU START WITH CHANGE THINGS UP. ANY DISCUSSION? YES, I DO HAVE SOME. UM, THIS IS A VERY TOUGH CASE FOR ME BECAUSE I DO VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT BEN AND COTTON DO AND AM VERY ALIGNED AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR MY DISTRICT TO, UM, ADDRESS THE GOALS THAT YOU HAVE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BUT I THINK TO COMMISSIONER GREENHOUSE'S POINT IN THIS CASE, THE POTENTIAL NEGATIVE IMPACTS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ENTIRE ENTIRETY OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER, UM, REGARDING LAND USE IN ADDITION TO, UH, THE IMPORTANCE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S FEEDBACK, UM, IS WHY I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION FOR DENIAL. UM, I LOVE THIS PROJECT, HOWEVER, I DON'T THINK THIS IS NECESSARILY THE MOST APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR IT. UM, TO THE POINT THAT WAS MADE IS THE ANCHOR AT THE FRONT OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ON A STREET THAT'S LARGELY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IN ADDITION TO THE TRAFFIC TRAFFIC FACTORS. UM, I THINK THE IDZ TWO, UM, IS A HIGHER INTENSITY USE THAN IS, UM, APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PARTICULAR LOT. AND I AGREE WITH THE POINT THAT'S BEEN MADE THAT THE SITE PLAN IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE DOESN'T NECESSARILY GUARANTEE, UM, FUTURE INCOMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT. IF YOU DO RUN INTO SOME OF THE SUBSTANTIAL CHALLENGES THAT I ANTICIPATE YOU'D EXPECT WITH THIS PROJECT THAT HAVE BEEN ALREADY OUTLINED, UM, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE NEIGHBORHOOD FOLKS ARE AWARE THAT I D Z NOW IS TIED TO CONDITIONS. SO PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND IN YOUR FUTURE FEEDBACK. AND ALSO, UM, I KNOW IT'S GREAT TO HAVE TREES, UH, HOWEVER THIS IS A, IS A PRIVATE PIECE OF PROPERTY AND WHILE LAND USE IS FOREVER AND CAN BE USED TO SORT OF MITIGATE IMPACTS AND TRY AND GET THE BEST OUTCOME POSSIBLE, WE DO HAVE TO WEIGH ALL THE FACTORS. UM, AND I JUST DON'T THINK THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE FIT FOR THE HISTORICAL CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH SIGNIFICANTLY WEIGHED IN MY DECISION. UM, AND THE PARTICULAR LOCATION IN QUESTION. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WATSON. UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER RE BATTLES. UH, NOT SO MUCH CATHERINE, BUT THE COMMENT, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU, UH, FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO CAME HERE TONIGHT, TODAY AND A LOT OF INFORMATION. I KNOW IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME, A LOT OF EFFORT TO BE, SO I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO HEAR YOUR FEEDBACK AND YOUR COMMITMENT FOR YOUR COMMUNITY ALSO. SO THANKS FOR YOUR, UH, FOR YOUR TIME ALSO. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BOTTLES. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT. COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. ALRIGHT THEN I WILL TAKE THE LAST WORD. UM, SO I SAW THIS REZONING NOTIFICATION ON HILDEBRAND AS I WAS DRIVING BY AND MY IMMEDIATE RESPONSE WAS, THIS IS A CRAZY, CRAZY REQUEST. UM, BUT I SAW YOUR WORK AND THAT OPENED THE DOOR TO IT BEING POSSIBLE. WE'VE SEEN YOU PRESENT SOME WONDERFUL IDEAS. WE'VE SEEN YOUR WORK. I'VE SEEN YOUR WORK COTTON AT H D R C, UH, WHEN I SERVED THERE. AND SO I WANTED TO SUPPORT IT REALLY DID. UM, THE TRAFFIC IS THE OVERRIDING FACTOR FOR ME. THAT IS THE THING THAT PUTS THIS COMPLETELY OUT OF BALANCE. I GET ALL THE OTHER POINTS. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD ACCESS TO THE ALLEY, IF WE COULD PUT INGRESS ON ONE SIDE AND EGRESS ON THE OTHER, THAT COULD HAVE SWAYED MY VOTE AND I STILL WANNA VOTE FOR IT 'CAUSE I HAVE THE LAST WORD AND THE LAST VOTE. I STILL MIGHT. 'CAUSE I DON'T WANT YOU TO WALK AWAY THINKING THIS WAS JUST AN OUT AND OUT ROUTE. I THINK THIS WAS A LOT CLOSER THAN IT WOULD'VE BEEN WITH ANYONE ELSE. AND I WANT TO ENCOURAGE THIS WORK, I WANT TO ENCOURAGE THIS WORK IN THIS CITY, BUT I'M AFRAID THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT SPOT. ALRIGHT, UH, THE MOTION IS FOR DENIAL OF ITEM NUMBER NINE BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARROS. ROLL CALL VOTE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS. YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON. YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES. AYE. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? UH, YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER LU HOLLAND? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR BUSTAMANTE. NO. ITEM PASSES FOR DENIAL. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR COMING HERE. UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR TIME, AS DOES EVERY SINGLE OTHER COMMISSIONER UP HERE. UM, GOOD LUCK TO YOU MR. BOWMAN. MS. ESTES, I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK IN YOUR FUTURE PROJECTS. I'M SORRY. THIS OUTCOME TODAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. VERY WELL. UH, WE HAVE, [03:35:04] UM, ONE [Approval of Minutes  ] ITEM LEFT ON OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS THE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE NOVEMBER 15TH ZONING COMMISSION MINUTES. ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY AMENDMENTS, CORRECTIONS, ADDITIONS, ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE FOR THE MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 15TH? LOOKING TO MY LEFT, LOOKING TO MY RIGHT COMMISSIONER WATSON. SEEING NONE. IS THERE A MOTION? UH, MOTION TO APPROVE? WELL, I MEAN, ALRIGHT, MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER S SIPES. IS THERE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER ORTIZ, COME ON SECOND. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ SECOND. ALRIGHT, THIS IS A VOTE BY ACCLIMATION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION? ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES. ALRIGHT. DO WE HAVE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT TODAY? NO SIR. UH, REALLY BRIEFLY, ANY COMMISSIONER NOT GONNA BE HERE ON THE 20TH? RAISE YOUR HAND. VERY GOOD. ALRIGHT, WE WILL SEE YOU ALL ON THE 20TH. THE TIME IS 4 46. THIS MEETING OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS ADJOURNED. I. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.