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WE'LL START OFF WITH ROLL CALL COUNCILWOMAN
HERE, MA'AM, WE HAVE A QUORUM.
COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL JUST WALKED IN.
AND SORRY, WE HAVE 13 PEOPLE ON THE AGENDA, SO I FIGURED
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WE'D GET STARTED RIGHT AWAY WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.SO THE FIRST PERSON ON THE LIST, THANK YOU SO MUCH ALL FOR BEING HERE.
UM, WE WILL START OFF WITH, UM, UL FOLLOWED BY SUZIE INGRAM.
I THINK THAT'S AS LOW AS IT GOES,
UM, YEAH, I'M, AND I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM REGARDING THE PROACTIVE APARTMENT INSPECTION TEAM.
UM, I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MYSELF.
THE, UM, THE IDEA THAT ALL CITATIONS WILL BE CONSIDERED AT THE SAME LEVEL OF URGENCY IS REALLY SICKENING TO ME, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE TASK FORCE IS SUGGESTING THAT MERELY FIVE CITATIONS IN SIX MONTHS TRIGGERS A LANDLORD BEING PLACED ON THE BAD ACTOR LIST.
THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS IMPLEMENTED A SIMILAR STANDARD AND HAVE NOT SEEN AN IMPROVEMENT IN THE CONDITION OF TENANTS.
CITATIONS IS NOT ENOUGH TO, UM, PROTECT RESIDENTS WHO ARE FACING ISSUES SUCH AS EXPOSED ELECTRICAL WIRING, STRUCTURAL ISSUES, SUCH AS HOLES IN CEILINGS OR BROKEN STAIRS, GUSHING WATER DAMAGE OR BROKEN HVAC SYSTEMS DURING EXTREME TEMPERATURES, WHICH THE CODE CONSIDERS LIFE SAFETY AND STRUCTURAL CONCERNS.
THESE CITATIONS OF LIFE SAFETY AND STRUCTURAL CONCERNS SHOULD BE TAKEN MORE SERIOUSLY THAN THE SIMPLE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CONCERNS.
THAT BEING SAID, WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT A TIER SYSTEM LIKE THE ONE FROM THE SENIOR INDEPENDENT CARE INSPECTION PROGRAM, UM, FROM YEARS PAST.
IF AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT HAS FIVE TO 99 UNITS INCURS TWO LIFE SAFETY AND STRUCTURAL CITATIONS, OR FIVE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CITATIONS, THEN IT SHOULD BE PUT ON A BAD ACTOR LIST.
IF AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT HAS A HUNDRED OR MORE UNITS INCURS THREE LIFE DE, UM, LIFE SAFETY AND STRUCTURAL CITATIONS, OR FIVE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CITATIONS, THEN THEY MUST PUT BE PUT ON A BAD ACTOR LIST.
BAD ACTOR LANDLORDS DO NOT DESERVE THE FIVE CHANCES TO INCUR LIFE SAFETY AND STRUCTURAL CITATIONS.
BAD ACTOR LANDLORDS DO NOT DESERVE FIVE CHANCES TO KILL TENANTS.
IF THE TIER SYSTEM WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED ANY LONGER, THEN THE LEAST THEY CAN DO IS REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TOTAL CITATIONS TO TWO.
WE CANNOT STAND BY AS OUR RESIDENTS ARE PUT IN HARM'S WAY.
AND THE PAST SENIOR INDEPENDENT CARE INSPECTION PROGRAM DID NOT FAIL.
IT WAS JUST NEVER GIVEN THE CHANCE TO SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY BECAUSE OF COVID 19.
THIS CONVERSATION HAS BEEN FIXATED ON QUESTIONS ABOUT GOOD ACTORS, AND THE TASK FORCE LOST A LOT OF VALUABLE TIME DEALING IN THESE HYPOTHETICALS.
THE DISCUSSION WAS NEVER ABOUT GOOD ACTORS.
THIS CONVERSATION HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT BAD ACTING LANDLORDS THAT NEGLECT THEIR PROPERTIES, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THIS CONVERSATION IS ABOUT TENANTS WHO LIVE IN AWFUL CONDITIONS AND SUFFER PHYSICAL AND MENTAL CONSEQUENCES FROM BEING IGNORED AND NEGLECTED.
MR. AGUILAR, WE WILL HEAR FROM ROSA LINDA CIAN, NOW FOLLOWED BY CAROLINA FLORES.
OH, UM, IS EVERY, ARE YOU CATALINA, WILLY, CECILIA, DEBORAH, ARE YOU ALL OKAY WITH OKAY.
WITH LETTING HIM GO FIRST? OKAY.
OH, PEDRO, IS THAT SHE WANTED TO PASS ON HER TIME, AND I WAS GOING TO USE THAT HER TIME TO SPEAK FOR ONE OF OUR, OUR MEMBERS THAT'S NOT ABLE TO BE HERE.
SHE LIVES IN IN DISTRICT THREE.
AND, UH, I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK FOR HER AND, UH, SHE SENT ME A, A LOT OF MESSAGE.
UH, BUT, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS REALLY GOING ON IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF LEGAL ACTIVITY GOING ON AND JUST STUFF GOING ON AT OUR APARTMENT COMPLEX, AND NOT BY THE TENANTS, JUST THINGS BY OUR LANDLORD.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALWAYS SAYING THAT PEOPLE OWE THEM MONEY AND STUFF WHEN WE DON'T.
THEY, UH, MAKE A, AN ENVIRONMENT THAT IS NOT SAFE FOR US OVER THERE.
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WE REALLY NEED THESE TO PASS.'CAUSE THESE BAD LANDLORDS KEEP ON DOING THE THINGS THEY DO.
AND BECAUSE THE LAWS STAND BEHIND THEM, WE GET THROWN OUT, WE GET EVICTED, AND WE GET OUR, OUR FURNITURE THROWN OUT AND STUFF WHEN WE WORKED HARD TO GET THESE THINGS.
AND IT'S, IT'S JUST HUMAN RIGHTS FOR US TO HAVE A SAFE PLACE TO STAY.
IT'S NOT RIGHT FOR THESE LANDLORDS TO DO THESE THINGS TO US.
AND WE WILL FOLLOW WITH ROSA, LINDA, IAN, AND THEN CATALINA FLORES.
LINDA CATALINA FLORES, FOLLOWED BY WILLIE CAVAN.
WILLIE THEN IS, OKAY, GO AHEAD, WILLIE.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THE BEHALF OF THOSE WHO CANNOT BE HERE.
AND THOSE OF US THAT AREN'T HERE, I'M SPEAKING ON THE BEHALF AS FAR AS THE MAINTENANCE, AS FAR AS THE AC I NEED Y'ALL TO IMAGINE COMING OUT IN THIS THREE DIGIT WEATHER, THEN GOING BACK HOME, SEEING YOUR THERMOSTAT AT A HUNDRED.
IT'S HOT INSIDE, YOU KNOW, THEN YOU GOTTA TURN AROUND AND COOK.
THAT'S HAZARDOUS TO OUR HEALTH AS FAR AS THE ELECTRICAL.
IMAGINE YOU, YOU KNOW, THESE, UH, SLUM LORDS NEED TO REALIZE THAT THIS STUFF NEED TO BE FIXED.
BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T FIX THE ELECTRICAL STUFF, YOU KNOW, THERE IS NO EXPLAINING.
IT'S NOT GONNA BRING YOUR LOVED ONES BACK WHEN THEY CATCH ON FIRE.
AS WE SIGN THE LEASE, AS THEY SAY, WE SIGN, OKAY.
WE HAVE TO UPHOLD WHAT WE PROMISE TO DO AS FAR AS PAYING RENT AND KEEPING OUR PART.
AND SO THEY SHOULD, TOO, KEEP THE PART.
'CAUSE WHEN WE SIGNED THE LEASE, THEY ALSO PROMISED US THINGS.
AND SO THEY NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS TOO.
BECAUSE WE, AS TENANTS, YOU KNOW, WANT THE SAME THING AS EVERYBODY ELSE.
YOU KNOW, WE WANT A STABLE ENVIRONMENT TO, TO LIVE IN.
WE WANNA BE ABLE TO GO TO A HOME, LIKE THEY GO HOME TO A HOME WITH AC WITH WORKING CONDITIONS WHERE WE CAN SIT AND BE COMFORTABLE AS THEY ARE IN THEIR HOME.
SO, I'M ASKING Y'ALL TO PLEASE, YOU KNOW, MAKE THEM BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS AS Y'ALL MAKE US ACCOUNTABLE FOR OUR ACTIONS.
CECILIA GALVAN, FOLLOWED BY DEBORAH WATTS.
I HAVE AN ANXIETY OF PUBLIC SPEAKING, SO THIS MEANS A, A GREAT DEAL.
UM, AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THE LANDLORD WILL BE GIVEN ANYWHERE BETWEEN 14 TO 30 DAYS TO ADDRESS THE VIOLATIONS BEFORE A CITATION IS GIVEN.
I FEEL THIS IS AN UNREASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME TO BE GIVEN, UH, TO BEGIN WITH.
LANDLORDS HAVE 72 HOURS TO RESPOND FOR A GENERAL MAINTENANCE ISSUE, AND 24 HOURS TO RESPOND FOR EMERGENCY SITUATIONS.
FROM THIS TIME, THE TENANTS NOT, UH, NOTIFIES FROM THE TIME NO TENANTS NOTIFY MANAGEMENT.
UM, NOW ADDING, SORRY, ADDING THREE TO FIVE DAYS GIVEN TO CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICERS TO ADDRESS VIOLATIONS FROM WHEN THE COM COMPLAINT IS MADE BY A TENANT TO CODE COMPLIANCE NEXT 14 TO 30 DAYS, THE LANDLORD MUST RESPOND TO, TO THE COMPLAINT BEFORE A CITATION CITATION IS ISSUED, AND THEN A FINE THAT'S OVER A MONTH, THAT THE TENANT IS LEFT TO LIVE IN AN UNHEALTHY OR UNSAFE LIVING CONDITION.
I, MYSELF, AFTER A MAJOR SURGERY, HAD TO ENDURE RECOVERY PERIOD WITH NO HOT WATER, AND WAS IN FEAR OF DAILY, UH, WAS IN FEAR, DAILY OF INFECTIONS.
IT FELT LIKE I WAS LIVING IN A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY NEEDING TO BOIL WATER OVER A STOVE JUST TO TAKE A SHOWER.
AND WHO WILL TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY IF THE TENANT IS INJURED DURING THIS TIME, NEEDING TO WAIT FOR 30 DAYS FOR THE LANDLORD TO UPHOLD THEIR CONTRACT? IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE.
SECOND, IT HAS COME TO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT VIOLATIONS WILL BE CATEGORIZED THE SAME.
I DO NOT AGREE WITH THIS POLICY, AND I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE VI, THAT A VIOLATION OF OVERGROWN GRASS SHOULD BE CLASSIFIED THE SAME AS AN ELECTRICAL ISSUE, AS A SEWER BACKUP, AS BLACK MOLD, NO AC, NO HEAT, AND SO ON.
I BELIEVE THAT MY HEALTH AND MY SAFETY AS THOSE OF THE TENANTS, UH, THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR HOLD, UH,
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RESPONSIBLE FOR HOLD MORE VALUE THAN OVERGROWN GRASS.I HOPE THAT THE BOARD HAS THE SAME BELIEF.
THIRD, UH, REGARDING THE EXPECTATIONS OF LANDLORDS, SAHA IS EXPECTED TO REVIEW AND APPROVE THAT THE LIVING CONDITIONS ARE ACCEPTABLE FOR THE TENANT TO LIVE IN.
ARE WE ASKING TOO LITTLE FROM, FROM LANDLORDS THAT THEY HAVE THE SAME BENCHMARKS THAT THE CITY EXPECTS FROM SAHA? IS IT TOO MUCH TO REQUIRE LANDLORDS TO MAINTAIN THEIR OWN PROPERTIES TO A LIVABLE CONDITION? I ALSO REMIND YOU, I I ALSO RE REMIND YOU, THESE ARE FOR-PROFIT BUSINESSES THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR HUNDREDS, SOMETIMES EVEN THOUSANDS OF TENANTS, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY COMPLEXES ARE UNDER ONE LANDLORD.
THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF SO MANY LIVES.
AND I APPEAL TO YOU TO, TO CONSIDER THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE VOICED.
I APPEAL TO YOU TO PLACE YOURSELVES AS IF YOU WERE LIVING IN THESE APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
AND I, I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO MENTION ONE LAST THING.
UM, AS ONE OF THE CO COMPLIANCE OFFICERS CAME TO INSPECT MY APARTMENT, THE MANAGER AT THAT TIME ASKED, WHY DIDN'T I REPORT THIS TO THE CITY BEFORE? MY RESPONSE WAS, I DID NOT KNOW I HAD THAT OPTION AS A RENTER.
THANK YOU, MS. YOU FEEL THAT EDUCATING RENTERS IS OF THIS IS A, IS OF THIS OPTION, IS BENEFICIAL.
YOU'RE READY FOR FULL COUNSEL.
WE WILL MOVE ON TO, LET'S SEE, KEISHA BROWN.
UH, I AM NOW A CITY, CITY, UH, ACTUALLY RESIDENT.
I AM HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE MULTIPLE VIOLATIONS, WHICH ARE NOT CITATIONS, BUT THEY'RE FOR LIFE THREATENING MAINTENANCE ISSUES, UM, THAT NEEDS TO BE PLACED ON THE BAD ACTOR'S LIST.
MY MOST MAINTENANCE ISSUE THAT I HAD WAS IN FEBRUARY, 2021 WHEN THE STORM CAME AND THE PIPES ABOVE ME.
I LIVED ON THE SECOND FLOOR, THE THIRD FLOOR BURST, AND THEY FLOODED INSIDE MY APARTMENT.
UM, THE SMOKE ALARMS WENT OFF.
IT WAS ACTUALLY WATER COMING THROUGH THE VENTS, THROUGH THE PATIO, OUTSIDE, LIKE A WATERFALL.
SO WE WERE DISPLACED, UM, RECENTLY BECAUSE NO ONE FIXED THE PROBLEM.
UM, I WAS ACTUALLY, I SPOKE ABOUT IT, UH, TWO MONTHS AFTER IT HAPPENED BECAUSE THE LANDLORD ASSURED ME THAT THEY WERE ON IT.
THEY WERE ON TOP OF IT, BUT THEY WEREN'T.
I, UH, CALLED AND BECAUSE I SPOKE OUT, DARIEN TROTTER CAME, DID MY STORY IN APRIL, 2021.
UM, I EXPOSED THEM, AND THEY DIDN'T LIKE THAT THEY DID NOT RENEW MY LEASE IN FEBRUARY 28TH, 2022, WHICH CAUSED ME TO BE HOMELESS DUE TO THE FACT THAT I WANTED THEM JUST TO FIX THE PROBLEM.
I HAD NO WALLS UP FOR, UH, FOUR MONTHS.
ME AND MY SON WERE LIVING THAT WAY.
UM, MY STORY WAS AIRED ON APRIL THE FIRST 2021 RESIDENT WHO WANTS TO LIVE LIKE THIS.
UM, I WAS TOLD BY THE MAINTENANCE WORKER, IF I NEVER WOULD HAVE TOLD THEY WOULD'VE FIXED MY PLACE, I WOULD NOT HAVE TO BE PUT OUT, UM, BECAUSE THEY WERE GONNA WORK WITH ME.
BUT THAT WAS FROM FEBRUARY, 2021, AND WE'RE IN 2022.
SO THAT PROBLEM SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIXED WITH THE STORM.
I UNDERSTAND CONTRACTORS COULDN'T GET IN WITH THE BUILDER MATERIAL, BUT THEY DIDN'T TELL US.
THEY DIDN'T TELL US, OH, WE'RE WORKING ON IT.
UM, I HAD TO BATHE IN MY JOB AT WORK.
IT CAUSED ME TO BE HOMELESS FROM FEBRUARY 28TH TO ACTUALLY NOW IN WHICH I'M ABOUT TO BE HOMELESS AGAIN BECAUSE I CAN'T AFFORD MY RENT.
I'M NOT TRYING TO HAVE A SOB STORY.
YOU KNOW? UM, Y'ALL CAN GO HOME AT NIGHT WHEN WE'RE OUT.
I WAS TOLD BY SAN ANTONIO HOUSING, OH, JUST SLEEP AT HAVEN FOR HOPE.
BUT THE SAME WEEK THAT I WENT, THERE WAS A SHOOTING.
THAT'S NOT A WAY FOR ME AND MY 13 YEAR OLD TO LIVE.
I'VE NEVER HAD TO LIVE THAT WAY.
I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
UM, LANDLORDS, THEY CAN'T HOLD THEIR TITLES AND BE BULLIES TO TENANTS.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE VOICES JUST BECAUSE WE SPEAK OUT.
SO WHAT I THOUGHT I DID, BECAUSE I HAVE SENIOR RESIDENTS AROUND ME, I SPOKE UP, BUT BECAUSE I SPOKE UP, I WAS HOMELESS.
AND LIKE I SAID, PLEASE KEEP ME IN YOUR PRAYERS BECAUSE I'M ABOUT TO BE HOMELESS AGAIN.
YOU TURN IN YOUR PAPERWORK, YOU'RE ON TIME.
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NOT ON TIME, IT IT, IT HURTS US.SO THIS IS WHY I'M STATING MY FULL SUPPORT FOR TREATING CODE VIOLATIONS, LIKE EXPOSED ELECTRICAL WIRING, BROKEN HVAC SYSTEMS, YOU KNOW, OPEN SEWAGE AND STRUCTURAL ISSUES.
YOU KNOW, UM, IT SHOULD BE REQUIRED ONLY TWO VIOLATIONS OF THESE TYPES TO BE PUT ON THE LANDLORD ON THE BACK ACTOR'S LIST.
AND I'M SORRY I WENT OVER THE TIME.
JORDANA DE LA ROSA, FOLLOWED BY CELINE WILLIAMS. JORDANA CELINE WILLIAMS. HELLO, MY NAME IS CELINE WILLIAMS. I'M HERE FOR THE SAN ANTONIO APARTMENT ASSOCIATION.
UH, WE REPRESENT OWNERS, OPERATORS, AND SUPPLIERS THAT PROVIDE MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING, SINGLE FAMILY, AND ALL TYPES OF HOUSING, RENTAL HOUSING.
UM, OUR MEMBERS HAVE OVER 225,000 UNITS.
I DO SERVE ON THE STAKEHOLDERS GROUP, SO I'M GLAD I'M AT THE TABLE.
UM, THE DATA HAS SHOWED IN THE STAKEHOLDERS GROUP THAT THIS, UM, THE MAJORITY OF OWNERS AND OPERATORS THAT PROVIDE HOUSING ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CODE COMPLIANCE.
THERE ARE A FEW OUTLIERS THAT ARE, QUOTE UNQUOTE BAD ACTORS THAT WE ARE NOT HERE TO DEFEND.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS, THERE DOES NEED TO BE A POLICY IN PLACE, AND WE ARE HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR OUR RESIDENTS AS WELL.
WE DO WANT OUR OWNERS AND OPERATORS TO PROVIDE QUALITY HOUSING.
UM, SO WE ALSO AGREE THAT, UM, FOCUSING ON THOSE LIFE AND SAFETY ISSUES, UM, AND NOT THE OVERGROWN GRASS AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS, UM, CAN, THOSE CAN ACTUALLY, UM, ROPE IN SOME OF THE, THE GOOD ACTORS.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE AT THE TABLE TRYING TO, WE REALLY HAVE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS ON BOTH SIDES.
WE'VE COME TO COMPROMISE AT THE TABLE, UM, AND WE'RE ALL THERE FOR THE RIGHT REASON TO TRY TO MAKE PROGRESS AND COME WITH A POLICY RECOMMENDATION, UM, THAT IS ENFORCEABLE AND THAT IS EFFECTIVE.
SO WE JUST ASK FOR YOUR PATIENCE AS WE WORK THROUGH THAT.
IT'S TAKEN US SOME TIME JUST TO GET OUR HEADS WRAPPED AROUND, UM, THIS COMPLEX ISSUE.
WE HAVE HAD SOME EXTREME CASES RECENTLY WITH SNOWPOCALYPSE AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN.
UM, BUT THOSE ARE EXTREME CASES.
AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE, UM, SOMETHING THAT, THAT, UM, IS, IS EFFECTIVE.
AND WE ASK THAT, THAT YOU GIVE US THE TIME TO DO THAT.
UM, WE ALSO PROVIDE EDUCATION TO OUR MEMBERS.
SO WE WORK WITH CODE COMPLIANCE TO PROVIDE EDUCATION TO OUR OWNERS AND OPERATORS, UM, AND HAVE TALKED ABOUT HOW TO EDUCATE RESIDENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THEIR RIGHTS.
AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE STAKEHOLDERS GROUP.
UM, SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL, UM, INCLUDE THAT PART IN PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATION.
UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU TODAY.
THANK YOU, MS. WILLIAMS. WE WILL GO BACK TO CATALINA.
NO, JESSICA NICHOLSON AND JORDANA DE LA ROSA.
MIA, DID YOU SIGN UP TO SPEAK IN M MS. D? OKAY.
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ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON WITH, UM, THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER THE 14TH.BUT FIRST I WANNA WELCOME OUR NEW, UM, APPOINTEE TO THIS COMMITTEE COUNCILWOMAN ON AS SANDOVAL FROM DISTRICT SEVEN.
NO, IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE, ESPECIALLY, UH, DURING TODAY'S ITEM.
HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HERE, COUNCILWOMAN.
NOW WE WILL, UM, IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER THE 14TH? SO MOVE SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY I, OH, I GUESS, OH, WE CAN VOTE ON THIS AGAIN.
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MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS A BRIEFING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PROPOSED PETITION INITIATED TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER 40 L OAK, LOCATED NEAR LOOP 1604 N IH 37, UM, SOUTH IN COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE.AND SO THIS IS IAN'S PRESENTATION.
GOOD MORNING COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
UM, IAN BETA, DEPUTY DIRECTOR WITH THE CITY'S NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
SO THE ITEM BEFORE, UH, YOU TODAY IS A PROPOSED PETITION INITIATED TTS, UM, LONE OAK.
THE LOCATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS NEAR 1604 AND I 37 WITHIN COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE.
IT FALLS WITHIN THE SOUTH SIDE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND IT HAS DIRECT ACCESS TO 1604 AND I 37.
IT'S WITHIN THE VICINITY OF SEVERAL MAJOR EMPLOYERS, INCLUDING NAVISTAR ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY CENTER, WEATHERFORD NAVIS STAR MAIN CAMPUS, AND T J X DISTRIBUTION CENTER.
IT ALSO FALLS WITHIN, UH, TEXAS SENATE DISTRICT 21 AND TEXAS HOUSE DISTRICT ONE 18.
THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS A HUNDRED PERCENT SINGLE FAMILY MARKET RATE RESIDENTIAL.
OUR 4 45 ACRES ARE CURRENTLY BEING REZONED.
UM, TO R FOUR, THE AVERAGE HOME PRICE WILL RANGE STARTING AT AROUND $260,000, UP TO $275,000.
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IT'S THE AVERAGE HOME PRICE.THE, UM, AVERAGE SQUARE FOOT LOT SIZES ARE BETWEEN 48,050 4,000.
I MEAN 4800, 5400, AND IT'S ADJACENT TO THE FUTURE COMMERCIAL.
YOU CAN SEE IT, UH, ON THE MAP THERE.
IT'S THE, THE SHADED PURPLE, UM, RIGHT OUTSIZE, THE TUR DETERS BOUNDARY.
THE DEVELOPER IS SEEKING REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT ESTIMATED AT ABOUT $47 MILLION.
THE COST WILL INCLUDE UTILITIES, SAWS, AREA, SEWER, AND LIFT STATION IMPROVEMENTS, DRAINAGE ONSITE RIGHT OF WAY, CURB, SIDEWALK, AND LANDSCAPING.
THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS ESTIMATED AT 270 MILLION.
AND THE PROJECTED REVENUE, WHICH WOULD BE THE INCREMENT CREATED AS A RESULT OF THE DEVELOPMENT, IS ESTIMATED AT APPROXIMATELY $28 MILLION.
THE PROJECTED REVENUE IS BASED ON A 25 YEAR TS AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY PARTICIPATING AT 85%.
THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THE REMAINING 15% OF THAT GENERATED INCREMENT WOULD GO TOWARDS THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND.
ON THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE KIND OF A BREAKDOWN OF THOSE, UH, ELIGIBLE INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS.
YOU HAVE ENGINEERING PLATTING GRADING, CLEARING SEWER WATER DRAINAGE, STREET SIDEWALK ELECTRIC, UM, LANDSCAPING, T P D E SS, WHICH IS A T C E Q REQ REQUIREMENT.
UM, AND THEN SOME CONTINGENCY COSTS.
AND THOSE WOULD ONLY BE PAID OUT FOR ELIGIBLE EXPENSES.
UM, BUT IT'S USUALLY A PERCENTAGE OF THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT.
THE, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS RELATED TO SEWER WATER DRAINAGE, UM, AND ELECTRIC ARE APPROXIMATELY $20 MILLION.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, UM, IS BEING DONE BY THE DEVELOPER.
VT LOKE DEVELOPMENT IS HEAD BY PAUL BASAL DUA.
UM, HIS REPRESENTATIVE, UM, DANIEL ORTIZ WITH BROWN ORTIZ IS ALSO HERE.
AND THE DEVELOPER HAS OVER 14 YEARS OF REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT AND RELATED EXPERIENCE THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
THE LONE OAK TOURS MEETS THE FOLLOWING, UM, GOALS OF THE CURRENT TIFF PROGRAM POLICY.
IT'S LOCATED WITHIN THE HERITAGE SOUTH SECTOR PLAN AND WILL MEET THE TRANSPORTATION AND HOUSING GOALS, UM, INCLUDING DIVERSIFIED HOUSING, STOCK AND TRANSPORTATION.
IT WOULD ALLOW CROSS ACCESS BETWEEN 1604 AND 37, UM, WHEN FULLY BUILT OUT AND ALLOWS FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF EXTENDING VIA TRANSIT DOWN TO THE AREA.
IT'S LOCATED WITHIN TRA TRANSIT, UH, CENSUS TRACK, SORRY, 1522 BLOCK GROUP FIVE.
AND THAT'S ATTRACT ELIGIBLE, ELIGIBLE FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANTS.
IT MEETS SOME OF THE GOALS OF REDUCING, UH, INCOME SEGREGATION.
WE DID ASK THE DEVELOPER TO DO A MARKET ANALYSIS LOOKING AT SOME KEY DEMOGRAPHIC AREAS WITHIN THE, UM, KEY DEMOGRAPHIC, UM, DATA POINTS WITHIN THE AREA.
THE MEDIAN HOME VALUE OF THE CENSUS TRACK IS AROUND A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
UM, AND 89% OF THE CENSUS TRACK ARE VALUED BELOW $200,000, WHICH, UM, IS ROUGHLY BETWEEN 80 AND A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME FOR CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
THE L OAK TOURS WILL BRING, UH, MARKET RATE HOMES TO AN AREA THAT IS OVERSATURATED WITH THAT PARTICULAR HOUSING STOCK PRICE.
IN ADDITION TO THIS, THE L OAK TOURS, UM, IS IN AN AREA WITH HIGH POVERTY UNEMPLOYMENT LEVELS HIGHER THAN THE CITY AVERAGE.
AND EDUCATIONAL ATTEN ATTAINMENT LEVELS LOWER THAN THE CITY AVERAGE.
33% OF PERSONS WITHIN THIS TRACTOR BELOW THE POVERTY LINE, AND NEARLY 66% OF PERSONS THIS TRACK HAVE EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT OF HIGH SCHOOL, UM, OR HIGHER, AS COMPARED TO 82% IN SAN ANTONIO.
THE OKE TOURISTS WILL ADOPT SUSTAINABLE BUILDING PRACTICES, INCLUDING INCORPORATED ENERGY EFFICIENT ROOFS FOR ALL HOMES WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT COMPLIANCE WITH DARK SKY LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS, UTILIZATION OF NATIVE PLANT TREE SPECIES, UH, AND OPEN SPACE AREAS WITH DRIP IRRIGATION TO ENSURE VIABILITY OF PLANTINGS AND GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO USE ZEROSCAPE LANDSCAPING AS PART OF THE OVERALL DESIGN OF THE COMMUNITY.
THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UM, FOR THE PROJECT IS A 25 YEAR TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE AGREEMENT FOR THE TERMINATION DATE OF SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2048.
AGAIN, THE CITY WOULD BE PARTICIPATING AT 85%.
THE REMAINING 15% WOULD BE, UM, DIRECTED TOWARDS THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND.
MAXIMUM CONTRIBUTION AMOUNT TO COVER THE INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD BE ABOUT $48 MILLION.
UM, THE AGREEMENT WOULD EITHER BE FOR THE TERM OF THE TOURS AGREEMENT OR THE MAXIMUM CONTRIBUTION AMOUNT, WHICH EVERYONE COMES FIRST.
THERE'S A DESIGNATION FEE OF $50,000 AND AN ANNUAL ADMINISTRATION EXPENSE OF 20% OF THE INCREMENT GENERATED, OR $75,000, WHICHEVER IS LESS.
AND THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION IN JANUARY 12TH OF NEXT MONTH.
UM, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I HAVE PAUL BASAL HERE, UM, AS WELL AS BROWN ORTIZ.
I, DANIEL ORTIZ WITH BROWN ORTIZ.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I'M GONNA START OFF BY HANDING THIS OVER TO COUNCILWOMAN VRAN BECAUSE IT IS IN HER DISTRICT, AND THEN I'LL FOLLOW WITH MY QUESTIONS.
I AM, UH, THANKFUL FOR N H S D AND IAN AND THE TEAM FOR ALL THEIR HARD
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WORK IN, IN THIS PROCESS.UM, AS YOU KNOW, OR IF, IF WE COULD BRING UP THE MAP OF WHERE LOKE SITS THIS AREA IS, WE, IT SITS IN AN AREA THAT IS VERY CLOSE TO THE COUNT THE COUNTY BORDER.
THIS IS, MOST OF THE RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA ARE IN SEPTIC TANKS OR WELLS.
I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA.
WE DO HAVE POCKETS OF AFFORDABLE H HOUSING THAT COMES IN, MOBILE HOME PARKS IN THIS AREA.
SO IT'S REALLY EXCITING TO SEE SOMETHING THAT'LL BRING, UH, MORE DIVERSITY THERE.
AS MENTIONED, WE DO HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING TO MOVE INTO THE AREA, INTO MARKET RATE HOMES.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT AVAILABILITY HERE.
SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THE LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE IN AND AROUND THIS PART OF, UH, LOOP 1604 IS, HAS BEEN KIND OF SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY BEEN, UH, BOTHERSOME AND, AND WE'VE SEEN IT.
AND IT'S, IT'S WHAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR INDUSTRIES AND BUSINESSES TO COME IN.
SO I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A GOOD INVESTMENT FOR THE CITY, AND I'M HOPING IN THE FUTURE, I CAN'T PROMISE YOU GUYS THAT WE CAN GET THE COUNTY TO, UH, PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCESS.
THEY'VE GOT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SUPPORT, AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT SOUTHSIDE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT 'CAUSE THEY'RE IN THE NEWS FOR HOW, UM, FOR ALL THE GROWTH AND THE WORK THEY'RE DOING IN THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS VERY CLOSE BY FOR THIS, UM, SUBDIVISION.
SO I'M HOPING THAT PARENTS AND FAMILIES MOVE IN AND WE CAN SEE THAT AREA GROW AND SEE THE ENTIRE CITY GROW.
I BELIEVE IT ALSO, UH, HELP IN TERMS OF WHERE DEVELOP THAT THE DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T ALWAYS SIT ON THE NORTH MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T ALWAYS SIT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN.
SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR THE WORK AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES' COMMENTS.
OH, OH, I MAKE MY MOTION TO MOVE THIS FORWARD TO THE JANUARY 12TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.
WE'LL CONTINUE WITH COUNCIL DISCUSSION.
UM, MY FIRST QUESTION WAS GONNA BE, IS THE COUNTY PARTICIPATING? THE COUNTY IS NOT PARTICIPATING AT THIS TIME? NOT YET.
AND THEN ONE OF THE BULLET POINTS ON SLIDE THREE INDICATED THAT IT WOULD BE PRIMARILY ZONED R FOUR.
WHAT OTHER ZONING DESIGNATIONS ARE PLANNED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT? UH, GOOD MORNING CHAIRWOMAN, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, I THINK THAT WAS A REFERENCE TO THE FACT THAT THE ACTUAL TURS BOUNDARY, SO EVERYTHING IN RED ON THE SCREEN IS ZONED R FOUR TODAY, EXCEPT FOR ABOUT 44 45 ACRES THAT IS BEING REZONED FROM INDUSTRIAL TO R FOUR.
ONCE THAT HAPPENS, WHICH IS PROJECTED AROUND THE SAME TIME, IDEALLY, THAT THE TOURS WOULD GO TO COUNCIL, THEN ALL OF IT WILL BE R FOUR.
THE SURROUNDING AREA THOUGH, IS, UH, COMMERCIAL, AND THAT WOULD STAY COMMERCIAL OUTSIDE OF THE TOURS.
SO ONCE THE IDEA BEING THE ROOFTOPS, UM, COME, BRING THE COMMERCIAL THAT GOES TOWARDS THE CITY'S TAX BASE ON DAY ONE.
GOOD MORNING, AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
UH, JUST TO ADD ON TO WHAT DANIEL SAID, UH, THAT THE, THE PART IN PURPLE RIGHT THERE, THAT IT'S AT THE CORNER, THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF 37 AND 1604.
THOSE ARE ALL, UM, PARCELS THAT I CURRENTLY OWN, UH, RIGHT NOW.
AND THAT WE DID NOT INCLUDE IN THE TUR.
UM, AND IAN, I THINK THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU.
WILL THIS DEVELOPMENT BE UNDER THE OLD TIFF POLICY? AND IF SO, DOES IT LINE UP WHAT WITH WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR THE NEW POLICY? IT IS CURRENTLY BECAUSE THE NEW POLICY ISN'T ADOPTED YET.
UM, SO THEY APPLIED UNDER THE OLD POLICY.
UH, HAVING SAID THAT, WE DID WORK WITH A DEVELOPER TO TRY AND MEET EVERY, UM, PROPOSED, UM, UM, PIECE OF THE NEW POLICY.
UM, SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE LOOKED VERY CLOSELY AT THE MARKET ANALYSIS TO ENSURE THAT HOUSING THAT'S BEING PROPOSED WASN'T OVERSATURATED IN THE AREA THAT ALREADY HAD MARKET RATE HOUSING.
UM, WE MADE SURE TO INCLUDE SUSTAINABILITY ASPECTS, WHICH WE SPOKE, WE SPOKE ABOUT, UH, IN THE PRESENTATION.
UM, SO I, I, I BELIEVE THAT THIS, UM, WOULD ALSO HAVE QUALIFIED UNDER THE PROPOSED POLICY THAT'S SET TO GO BEFORE CITY COUNCIL THIS WEEK.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A LITTLE BRIEFING ON THIS BEFORE, BUT I STILL HAVE, UH, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS JUST SO I UNDERSTAND THIS BETTER.
UH, WHEN WE GO TO, UH, RECOMMENDED IT TO COUNCIL, WE'RE LOOKING AT TOTAL IMPROVEMENT COST ON SLIDE, I GUESS, UH, FOUR OF ALMOST 47 MILLION, $7 MILLION.
UM, BASED ON THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION, WHEN THESE 900 UNITS ARE BUILT OUT, WHAT HAPPENS IF THE ACTUAL COST IS $37 MILLION? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, COUNCILMAN.
UM, AND SO THERE'S TWO NUMBERS ON THIS SCREEN THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT.
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THE INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS THAT THE DEVELOPER IS PROJECTING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT'S THAT BREAKDOWN THAT ADDS UP TO ABOUT, UM, THAT $47 MILLION.UM, THAT DOES LOOK AT ADDING CONTINGENCY.
SO ANY POSSIBLE COST THAT COULD, UH, THAT THE DEVELOPMENT COULD INCUR, THOSE ALL NEED TO BE ELIGIBLE COSTS.
AND AGAIN, IT'S ALL REIMBURSABLE BASED ON THE INCREMENT THAT'S GENERATED BY THE TOURISTS.
NOW, HAVING SAID THAT, THE PROJECTED REVENUE, WHICH YOU ALSO SEE THERE, IS CLOSER TO $28 MILLION.
UM, SO THAT'S HOW MUCH GIVEN THE DURATION OF THE TOURISTS AND THE PARTICIPATION RATE IN THE CITY, THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS PROJECTED TO ACTUALLY HAVE FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR.
SO OF THAT 48, UM, IT'S MORE LIKELY THAT ABOUT 28 MILLION OF THAT, UM, OR IS LIKELY TO BE REPAID.
THE REST OF THAT WOULD BE, UM, NOT PAID.
SO, AND THAT WOULD GO UP TO, AGAIN, EITHER THE 25 YEARS AND OR IF IT WERE TO GET UP TO THE $47 MILLION.
SO IF DURING THE 25 YEARS HE ACTUALLY INCURRED, OR THEY ACTUALLY INCURRED $47 MILLION WORTH OF INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS THAT QUALIFY FOR DEVELOPMENT, THEY WOULD GET THAT MUCH REIMBURSED IF THE, IF IT WERE TO GENERATE THAT MUCH.
WE'RE PROJECTING CLOSER TO 28 MILLION.
SO THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE LIKELY THE MAX THAT THE DEVELOPER COULD RECOUP.
AGAIN, ALL THOSE COSTS NEED TO BE ELIGIBLE, SO OKAY.
AND, UH, WHAT IF THE PROJECT TAKES LONGER, LET'S SAY, WELL, CAN THEY COME AND ASK FOR AN EXTENSION? AND WHAT KIND OF EXTENSION COULD THEY GET? AND COULD THAT MEAN ADDITIONAL T FUNDS AVAILABLE TO REIMBURSE THEM? THEY CERTAINLY COULD ASK FOR AN EXTENSION OF THE T, UM, THAT WOULD ALSO HAVE TO GO THROUGH COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
UM, THEY WOULD NEED TO HAVE JUSTIFICATION AS TO WHY EITHER THEIR PROJECT PLAN HAS CHANGED FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
UM, THEY MAY WANT TO ADD ADDITIONAL LAND AS PART OF THAT.
SO THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS THAT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY BRING TO US, BUT THAT WOULD ALSO BE SUBJECT TO COUNCIL APPROVAL.
SO THE FIRST FEW YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT, THERE PROBABLY ARE NO HOMES ON THERE.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PUTTING IN STREETS AND ROADS AND DRAINAGE AND SEWER AND WATER, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
AND ALL THOSE COSTS THEY WOULD ABSORB AND ASK THE CITY TO REIMBURSE MAYBE IN YEAR THREE OR FIVE OR SIX OR WHATEVER, WHEN, WHEN THE INCREMENTS BUILT UP ENOUGH TO HELP THEM GET THAT MONEY BACK.
THE DEVELOPER FRONTS THE COSTS OF UHHUH AND THEY GET REPAID OVER THE LIFE OF THE TOURISTS.
THAT'S ESSENTIALLY HOW THE, THE TOOL WORKS.
I, I STILL HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT UP TO MAYBE 27 OR $28 MILLION THAT THE CITY WOULD REIMBURSE.
UH, I'VE HEARD A SAYING SINCE I'VE GOT ON COUNCIL GROWTH PAYS FOR GROWTH, AND IN THIS CASE THIS IS GROWTH, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE CITY'S PAYING FOR A PRETTY GOOD CHUNK OF THAT GROWTH.
UH, AND YOU KNOW, I, I JUST IMAGINE THERE'S OTHER THINGS WE COULD DO WITH $27 MILLION, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY BE SPREAD OUT OVER 10, 15, 20 YEARS BEFORE THAT MONEY IS ALL SPENT OUT THERE.
UM, SO I I ALWAYS CONSIDER THAT, YOU KNOW, GROWTH SHOULD PAY FOR GROWTH.
AND, UM, SO THAT WAS MY CONCERN ABOUT THIS, BUT THANK YOU.
AND COUNCILMAN, I WANNA ADD, IN THIS CASE, THE GROWTH IS PAYING FOR THE GROWTH AND SO WITHOUT, BUT FOR THE P THE TIF, THE PROJECT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
SO THE, THE TIF HAPPENS, THEY'RE PAYING THE TAXES THAT THE DEVELOPMENT HAS TO PAY, AND THOSE TAXES THAT THEY'RE PAYING ARE GOING TO SUPPORT THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO, BUT IF WE DO NOT DO THE TIFF, THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT AT ALL.
BUT THERE ARE TAXES THAT ARE PAYING, BASICALLY THAT'S, THEY'RE PAYING FOR THIS EXPANSION THROUGH THEIR TAXES.
SO THE GROWTH IS PAYING FOR THE GROWTH.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO CLARIFY, LORI, IS THAT THE INCREMENT THAT'S GENERATED BY THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT'S REIMBURSING THE DEVELOPER.
SO THE GROWTH, THE INVESTMENT THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN AND THE GROWTH THAT IT CREATES HELPS REIMBURSE THEM FOR THAT INFRASTRUCTURE COST.
AND ANOTHER THING THAT I FORGOT TO MENTION IN THE PRESENTATION IS THAT THE EXTENSION OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT ALSO BENEFITS FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
SO IN A, IN A SENSE, THERE IS SOME LEVERAGEABLE, UM, INVESTMENT, UM, FOR THAT REIMBURSEMENT.
SO THERE ISN'T AN WE, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING ELSE WITHOUT $26 MILLION BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T HAVE IT UNLESS THEY DEVELOPED THE PROJECT.
UM, THANK YOU COUNCILMAN, COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL.
UM, UH, I'VE BEEN, UH, DISCUSSING THIS ITEM WITH MY, WITH MY TEAM.
AND, UM, I GUESS AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF AN AREA THAT'S PRETTY MUCH LANDLOCKED, WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WOULD NEVER SEE ANYTHING LIKE THIS IN, IN MY DISTRICT, RIGHT? EVEN THOUGH WE DO HAVE SOME AREAS ON SEWER, UH, WE WOULDN'T SEE ANYTHING LIKE THIS, BUT, UM, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE,
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THE DESIRE TO BRING MARKET RATE TO THE, TO THOSE PARTS OF THE CITY THAT DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT NOW.UM, BUT I ALSO, OF COURSE, WANNA BE GOOD STEWARDS OF, OF PUBLIC DOLLARS AND OF, OF THE ENVIRONMENT.
UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, THET BOARD, WILL THAT BE CREATED WHEN, UH, WHEN THIS IS ADOPTED? IF AND WHEN THIS IS ADOPTED AT COUNCIL? THAT, THAT'S CORRECT.
SO THE ORDER, THE ACTION ORDER IS THAT WE WOULD ESTABLISH THE TS, UM, THEN THAT WOULD CREATE THE TS BOARD, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT GOES TO THAT BOARD, AND THEN ULTIMATELY TO CITY COUNCIL WITH ALL THE FINAL PARAMETERS OF THAT AGREEMENT.
WHO WOULD SIT ON THAT BOARD? MY UNDERSTANDING IS LIKE RESIDENTS WOULD, WOULD SIT ON THERE, SO WOULD THEY BE FROM THE EXISTING HOMES? SO IT WOULD BE, OH, NO, THERE'S NO EXISTING HOMES IN THET PER SE, RIGHT? THAT'S IN, THERE'S NO EXISTING, UM, MEMBERS OF THE TUR.
SO, UM, THE PROPOSED BOARD, WE WOULD HAVE TO FINALIZE WITH THE DEVELOPER, BUT THERE ARE SOME STATE REQUIREMENTS AS TO WHO SITS ON THERE.
SO WE HAVE TO EXTEND AN INVITATION, UM, TO THE, TO THE STATE, UM, SENATE MEMBER AND THE HOUSE MEMBER, UM, IN THAT AREA.
UM, AND WE WOULD ALSO INCLUDE, USUALLY INCLUDES THE DEVELOPER, SO IT, THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE ON THAT TOUR.
AND THEN THERE IS ALSO PARAMETERS FOR AT LARGE APPOINTMENTS ON THERE.
SO WE WOULD FINALIZE THAT LIST, UM, BEFORE WE GO TO COUNCIL, SO WE COULD SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
UM, PAUL, YOU SAID YOU SET ASIDE SOME, OR THERE WAS A SET ASIDE FOR FUTURE COMMERCIAL LEAD ZONED PROPERTY.
WHAT ARE THE PLANS FOR THAT? HOW SOON DO YOU IMAGINE THERE CAN BE SOME AMENITIES FOR THESE RESIDENTS TO ENJOY? SO WE, SO INTERNAL TO THE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION, WE WILL HAVE AMENITIES, OPEN PARK SPACE, UH, GROCERY STORES,
UM, AND SO THE AREA THAT, THAT IS NOT DEVELOPED YET, A LOT OF IT'S, UH, JUST KIND OF WAITING FOR THE HOUSES TO GET THERE.
SO THE COMMERCIAL PEOPLE CAN COME.
UH, THERE'S NOT ANY VERY SPECIFIC USES, UH, BUT I CAN TELL YOU WHAT WON'T BE THERE.
AND IT'S ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE AS PART OF A, A DEVELOPMENT THAT, UH, QUITE FRANKLY COULD TAKE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS TO GET ON THE GROUND.
AND I, I NEED TO MAINTAIN VALUE FOR.
UM, UH, BUT WHERE IS THE CLOSEST GROCERY STORE TO THIS DEVELOPMENT? IT'S, UH, IT'S OVER ON FOUR 10, UH, UH, GETTING UP.
SO IF YOU GO UP 37, YOU HIT FOUR 10 GOING EAST, YOU'RE A COUPLE OF EXITS AWAY.
SO, AND I, AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT I'VE BEEN PART OF SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH SOUTH SIDE I S D, WHERE, UM, THE CONCERN WITH, WITH GROCERY IS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE CRITICAL MASS HOUSING.
AND SO AS IAN MENTIONED, THIS, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE WILL BE, UM, WILL HAVE A CAPACITY TO SERVICE NOT JUST MY DEVELOPMENT, BUT SEVERAL DEVELOPMENTS BEHIND ME.
UH, QUITE FRANKLY, FOUR OR FIVE TIMES THE AMOUNT OF HOMES THAT I'LL PUT ON THE GROUND.
AND ONCE YOU HAVE THAT CRITICAL MASS, I THINK THAT'S WHEN WE START REALLY, REALLY PUSHING WITH OKAY, UH, THE GROCERY STORE.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME,
NO, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, THESE RESIDENTS WILL SORT OF HAVE TO WAIT FOR OTHERS TO COME ALONG BEFORE THEY, THE IDEA IS TO PUT SOMETHING, UH, SOME KIND OF NEIGHBORHOOD SMALLER WHILE WE BUILD, UH, THE, THE HOUSING DENSITY THERE.
AND THEN OVER TIME, I'M SURE THEY'LL FIND IT.
WHEN YOU SAY THE IDEA IS, WHO'S SOMEONE CARRYING THAT OUT? WELL, 'CAUSE I OWN THE PROPERTY, SO I CAN SO YOU'RE GONNA LOOK FOR A, OKAY.
I MEAN, I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT I CAN CONVINCE SOMEBODY TO COME HERE, BUT LIKE ONE OF THOSE SMALL WALMART.
UM, UH, YOU ARE REZONING FROM INDUSTRIAL TO, IS THAT IT? BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT MORE.
AND THANK YOU, IAN, FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO NOD, UH, HAVE A HIGH CONCENTRATION OF MARKET RATE IN THE NORTH SIDE OR IN ANY PARTICULAR AREA OF THE CITY.
UM, BUT I, I DO WANNA PUSH BACK, RIGHT? AND THIS IS JUST A, A GENERAL COMMENT, RIGHT? OFTENTIMES WE TALK ABOUT DECONCENTRATING POVERTY AND, UM, NOT CONCENTRATING MARKET RATE, RIGHT? BUT ULTIMATELY, THE, THE, THE GOAL IS TO ADDRESS POVERTY, NOT JUST SPREAD POVERTY AROUND THE CITY OR BREAK UP THE POVERTY WITH MARKET RATE, RIGHT? SO, UM, I, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID, RIGHT? UM, BUT, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WITHIN THIS CENSUS TRACK, 81% OF THE HOUSING UNITS ARE OWNER OCCUPIED AND 34% OF THOSE FOLKS LIVE IN POVERTY.
AND I KNOW IT WAS CITED THAT, UM, WITHIN THIS AREA, FOLKS ARE ON SEPTIC TANKS.
SO HOW WOULD INITIATING THIS TS SUPPORT THOSE EXISTING RESIDENTS IN HAVING THOSE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS MET? UH, HAS THERE BEEN CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW, UH, SOME OF THESE POTENTIAL TSS ONES, I KNOW THE BOARD NEEDS TO BE CREATED, UM, BUT HAS THERE BEEN CONVERSATION OR IS THERE AN APPETITE TO SUPPORT THE EXISTING RESIDENTS WITH THEIR SOAR AND DRAINAGE CONCERNS, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE? SO, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
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HE'S HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH ADJOINING EXISTING PROPERTY OWNERS.UM, BUT I WILL SAY YOUR FIRST POINT IS WELL TAKEN.
UM, I THINK THROUGH THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, THE GOAL IS TO REALLY PROVIDE HOUSING OPTIONS MM-HMM.
UM, SO WE CAN WORK ON REWORDING THAT IN FUTURE PRESENTATIONS TO BE MORE OPTIONS ORIENTED.
BUT I AGREE ADDRESSING POVERTY, UM, IS THE MAIN GOAL NOT SPREADING AROUND.
UM, AND THEN I WOULD SAY BEFORE PAUL TALKS IS, UM, WHAT EXTENDING UTILITIES DOES PROVIDE THE OPTION FOR, UM, IS FOR THOSE EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE ON SEPTIC TO EVENTUALLY CONNECT TO THOSE UTILITIES.
UM, I DON'T, I HAVE NOT HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH ANY OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS, BUT I'LL LET PAUL SPEAK TO ANY OF THAT.
WELL, UM, YEAH, THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILMAN FOR THE QUESTION.
SO THIS AREA SORT OF FUNNELS DOWN TO MY PROPERTY IN TERMS OF DRAINAGE AND, AND, AND SEWER MM-HMM.
AND SO IN ORDER TO PLACE THE SEWER IN THE RIGHT LOCATION TO HELP THE LARGEST GROUP OF PEOPLE, SAS HAS COME UP WITH MY LOCATION AS, AS THE SPOT.
AND SO EVERYBODY IN THIS AREA ON THE WEST SIDE OF 37, UM, AND QUITE FRANKLY, FOR QUITE A BIT OF CAPACITY WILL HAVE ACCESS SHORT TERM WHILE THE CAPACITY'S THERE TO TIE INTO THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
COUNCILMAN, IF I COULD JUST ADD ONE QUICK THING TO PUT NUMBERS TO IT, AND ALSO I THINK THIS SPEAKS A LITTLE BIT TO COUNCILMAN CURTIS'S QUESTIONS.
THE LIFT STATION ALONE IS GONNA HAVE A CAPACITY OF 6,500 UNITS.
THIS DEVELOPMENT IS AIR QUOTES ONLY 9 75, SO THAT ROUGHLY 5,500 IS COMING OUTSIDE THE TOURS, BUT THAT'S PROVIDING FOR THAT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, ALL OF WHICH GOES TO THE CITY'S TAX BASE ON DAY ONE AS THEY COME ON.
AND, AND JUST A, A CONCERN THAT I HAVE, RIGHT, IS THAT, WELL, ULTIMATELY IT'S UP TO THE BOARD, BUT THE, THE RESTRICTION OF THOSE TOURS, DOLLARS BEING RESTRICTED TO THE BOUNDARIES, WHEREAS WITHIN THE ENTIRE CENSUS TRACK, THEY COULD USE SUPPORT AND INVESTMENT.
UM, BUT I, I KNOW THE TOURS BOARD NEEDS TO BE CREATED AND DEPENDING ON WHO'S APPOINTED TO THAT, BUT, UM, MY CONCERN IS THOSE EXISTING RESIDENTS, HOW WILL THEY GET TO ENJOY AND HAVE THEIR NEEDS AND THOSE, UH, AMENITIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING TO THIS PROJECT AND REIMBURSED BY THE CITY? SO THEY, THE, UH, IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE PUBLIC, SO THEY WILL BE, YES.
THEY WILL BE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS.
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'S RESTRICTED TO THIS PROJECT THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING.
WE'LL GO BACK TO, UH, COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL AND THEN COUNCILMAN VADE.
ACTUALLY, THAT, THAT WAS, UH, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS TOO FOR, SO THERE WILL BE SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE TOURS, BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY BENEFIT THE, THE ENTITIES THAT ARE ON, UH, SEPTIC RIGHT NOW, UNLESS THEY WORK OUT SOMETHING WITH SAWS, WHICH WE KNOW IS, IS NOT CHEAP.
LIKE SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS HOME IS, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO CONNECT TO THE SEWER SYSTEM.
SO I THINK, UH, JUST BEING, JUST THINKING IN HYPOTHETICALS RIGHT NOW, UM, THE, THE BENEFIT AND THE INVESTMENT THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT THROUGH THE TURS IS OPENING UP THE POSSIBILITY OF THOSE EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS BEING ABLE TO TIE IN WHERE OTHERWISE THE COST OF THEM TO DO THAT WOULD HAVE TO INVOLVE EXTENDING THE UTILITIES, NOT JUST TYING IN.
SO, WHICH WOULD BE MUCH MORE UNAFFORDABLE.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS BRINGING THE PRICE DOWN.
THERE WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL COST TO TIE IN, BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULDN'T EVEN BE AN OPTION WITHOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, I THINK THOSE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS.
UM, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WOULD HAVE, WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT TO IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE DEVELOPMENTS NEARBY THAT ARE ON SEPTIC AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THOSE COSTS? UM, BUT YOU'RE CORRECT, THE, THE TOURIST REIMBURSEMENT FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IS SPECIFIC TO IMPROVEMENTS ON THIS SITE AND THE EXTENSION OF UTILITIES TO THIS SITE.
WELL, IF YOU THINK OF ANYTHING BETWEEN NOW AND JANUARY 12TH, THAT WILL HELP THOSE OTHER FOLKS.
I'D, I'D LOVE TO, TO HEAR THAT.
I THINK, UM, EVERYONE SHOULD BENEFIT IN, I MEAN, THAT'S PART OF THE REASON, RIGHT? YOU WANNA BRING THAT KIND OF STUFF TO, TO THE RESIDENTS THAT YOU HAVE THERE ALREADY.
UM, MY, THE QUESTION I WAS ABOUT TO ASK BEFORE WAS, UH, YOU ARE REZONING INDUSTRIAL TO RESIDENTIAL AND, UH, THERE IS, UH, AN INDUSTRIAL USE NEARBY, RIGHT? THE THE SEWAGE PLANT JUST TO THE NORTH.
AND THEN, UM, WHAT IS WEATHERFORD, DO YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT TYPE OF USE THAT IS? AND HERE'S WHERE I'M GOING, UH, WITH THAT.
SOMETIMES WE BRING DEVELOPMENT TO AREAS THAT HAVE OTHER USES ALREADY, AND THERE, THERE ENDS UP BEING SOME CONFLICT.
IF THERE, IF THERE ARE ODOR OR NOISE CONCERNS, UM, DOES THAT POSSIBILITY EXIST? AND IF SO, HOW WILL THAT BE MITIGATED? SO THE, UH, THE PLANT IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RIVER FROM US.
UM, BUT TO ANSWER THE WEATHER FORWARD QUESTION, IT'S AN OIL SERVICES BUSINESS, BUT IT'S NOT, UM, UH, UH, A HEAVY INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING SITE OR ANY OF THAT.
UH, AND THEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, THEY HAVE ABIDED BY
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THE MINIMUM, UH, DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS FROM IMPROVEMENT TO PROPERTY LINE.AND THEN WE WILL DO THE SAME THING ON OUR SIDE.
SO AT A MINIMUM, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE 45 FEET OF BUFFER BETWEEN A BACKYARD FENCE AND THEIR NEAREST BUILDING.
UM, AND YEAH, THAT'S THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION
SO YOU DON'T EXPECT ANY IMPACT TO THE RESIDENTS.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.
AND I THINK, UH, THE BIGGER CONVERSATION, WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE AFTER WE, UH, PASS THIS ON JANUARY 12TH IS HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH SAS ABOUT HOW WE CAN MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO, UH, TO NOW HAVE THE, THE SEWER, UH, OR THE WATER AND THE SEWER.
UM, AND JUST FULL DISCLOSURE, MY FAMILY'S PROPERTY, MY AUNT HAS A PIECE OF PROPERTY OUT THERE AND IT COSTS QUITE A BIT OF MONEY FOR HER TO GET CONNECTED.
AND WHAT I'M HOPING IS THAT WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT AND WITH THIS, UH, LIFT STATION, THAT IT, IT BECOMES, UH, MORE AFFORDABLE FOR THE RESIDENTS AND THAT WE CAN LOOK TO THE FUTURE ABOUT HOW WE'RE TAKING THESE RURAL PARTS OF SAN ANTONIO.
'CAUSE I KNOW IT'S NOT JUST IN DISTRICT THREE.
I KNOW DISTRICT FOUR AND DISTRICT TWO HAVE SOME RURAL AREAS AND HOW DO WE GET THEM CONNECTED, UH, TO OUR, TO OUR SYSTEMS, MAKE THEM SAUCE CUSTOMERS, UM, 'CAUSE THEY'RE ALL C P S CUSTOMERS CURRENTLY.
AND, UM, AND, AND GIVE THEM QUALITY SERVICE.
SO I THINK THIS WAS ONE STEP, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO BRINGING THAT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE AND SEEING HOW WE CAN CREATE PROGRAMS TO DO THAT.
UM, MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE UNDER ONE ROOF, BUT FOR, FOR PEOPLE ON WEALTH OR SOMETHING.
AND, UM, I KNOW THAT THERE'S TWO OTHER PETITION INITIATED HER SOUTH OF FOUR 10.
AND SO, UM, DEFINITELY DUE TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S LACKING, I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO, TO FOCUS ON THE TURS.
UM, AND IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ONLY DEVELOPERS RIGHT NOW CAN AFFORD TO ADD THE SWERVE CONNECTIONS.
IS THAT TRUE? YOU MEAN UPFRONT THE COST YES.
I MEAN IT'S A, IT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT, UM, TO EXTEND THOSE UTILITIES.
AND EVEN WITH THE NEW POLICY, UM, IT, IT'S ONLY FOR RE IT WOULD ONLY REIMBURSE A DEVELOPER, CORRECT, WITH THE NEW POLICY.
SO I GUESS PETITION INITIATED TTS, UM, SPEAK MORE TO THE, THE GENERAL MECHANISM OF THE TURS.
WE TYPICALLY SEE THEM WITH DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS, UM, WHICH IS A LARGE DEVELOPER, YOU COULD DO A PETITION INITIATED TURS, UM, THAT WAS SMALLER SCALE.
UM, AND THE REIMBURSEMENTS UNDER A DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS MAYBE MORE CENTRALLY LOCATED THAT DIDN'T HAVE AS MANY INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES, UM, COULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH OTHER ELIGIBLE COSTS, NOT EXTENDING UTILITIES.
UM, SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE, WE'VE ANSWERED ALL THE QUESTIONS, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE NOW.
UM, ALL IN FAVOR TO MOVE THIS ON TO CITY COUNCIL FOR JANUARY THE 12TH.
ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES.
AND, UM, THANK YOU DANIEL AND IAN.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS A BRIEFING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE CITY'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND.
AND THIS IS BY VERONICA GARCIA.
'CAUSE YOU'RE PERMANENT DIRECTOR NOW, RIGHT? SO IT'S YOUR FIRST PRESENTATION BACK.
UH, BUT IAN IS APPOINTED PERMANENT DEPUTY DIRECTOR.
SO ALL, ALL AROUND GREAT NEWS.
WAIT, CAN I JUST SAY PERMANENT MEANS THEY CAN NEVER LEAVE, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS HERE.
UM, CHAIRWOMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, I AM VERONICA GARCIA TO TALK ABOUT OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND.
SO THIS FUND WAS ESTABLISHED BACK IN 2018, UH, WITH THE REVISED CENTER CITY HOUSING INCENTIVE POLICY.
THE CCHI P WAS DESIGNED TO HELP PROVIDE INCENTIVES FOR, UH, NEW HOUSING PROJECTS IN KEY AREAS OF THE CITY.
THOSE INCENTIVES INCLUDED GRANTS CITY FEE WAIVERS, AND A REBATE OF THE INCREMENT FROM THE CITY PROPERTY TAXES ONLY.
UM, WITH THE, UH, NEW CCHI POLICY, A PORTION OF THAT CITY TAX REBATE WAS REDIRECTED AND DEPOSITED INTO THE CITY'S NEWLY CREATED AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND.
THE CCHI P DID SUNSET IN 2020, UM, BUT AS THOSE PROJECTS BECOME BUILT AND COME ONLINE, THOSE TAX REIMBURSEMENTS WILL START FEEDING INTO THIS FUND.
IN 2019, THE SEVERAL TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONES ALSO MADE ONE-TIME CONTRIBUTIONS TO EXPAND EXISTING HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAMS, INCLUDING OUR HOME REHAB PROGRAMS, UH, HELPING INCENTIVIZE INFILL HOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES AND PROVIDE GAP FUNDING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS.
THE HOUSTON STREET, INNER CITY MIDTOWN AND
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WESTSIDE TOUR, EACH APPROVED ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.AND THE MISSION DRIVE-IN APPROVED $230,000 FOR A TOTAL OF $6.2 MILLION, UM, DEPOSITED INTO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND FOR THESE PROGRAMS. FUNDING WAS USED FOR EACH OF THESE AND DURING THE PANDEMIC, ANY FUNDS NOT ALREADY COMMITTED TO PROJECTS WAS REDIRECTED TO PROVIDE MUCH NEEDED EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE FOR FAMILIES IN CRISIS.
THE FUND WAS LATER THEN EXPANDED FROM JUST SEA CHIP CONTRIBUTIONS TO INCLUDE CONTRIBUTIONS FROM T PROJECTS AND CONDUIT DEBT ISSUANCE FEES.
SO CONDUIT DEBT ISSUANCE FEES ARE APPLIED WHENEVER THE CITY APPROVES THE ISSUANCE OF DEBT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS.
SOMETIMES THOSE ARE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST PROJECTS.
THESE FEES, UM, WERE STARTED CONTRIBUTING INTO THIS FUND AT THE SUGGESTION OF COUNCILMAN COURAGE.
AND THAT STARTED, UM, THIS PAST SUMMER.
AND IN TOTAL WE'VE HAD FOUR PROJECTS CONTRIBUTE TO THE FUND IN TOTAL ABOUT $50,000.
IN ADDITION, THERE HAVE BEEN THREET AGREEMENTS THAT AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT, AGREED TO CONTRIBUTE A PORTION OF THE CITY TAX INCREMENT INTO THE FUND.
AND THEN, AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE SIX C CHIP PROJECTS THAT WERE APPROVED.
AND ALL OF THEM, ONCE THEY START COMING ONLINE THIS YEAR, UH, 2023, THEY WILL START ALSO CONTRIBUTING INTO THE FUND.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE BALANCE OF THE FUND IS CURRENTLY ABOUT $89,500.
THAT'S WHAT'S AVAILABLE FOR PROJECTS, NOT INCLUDING FUNDS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN, UH, COMMITTED TO EXISTING PROGRAMS SUCH AS OUR MINOR RE UH, SUCH AS OUR HOME REHAB PROGRAMS. THIS BALANCE WILL CONTINUE TO GROW AS OUR CCHI AND TIF PROJECTS ARE BUILT AND START TO GENERATE TAX REVENUE OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
THE FUND IS EXPECTED TO GENERATE ABOUT $2.3 MILLION FROM THESE THREE DIFFERENT REVENUE SOURCES.
AND THAT IS AN ESTIMATE BASED ON THE PROJECTED VALUES OF THE FINAL BUILT PROJECTS, AS WELL AS, UM, HISTORICAL AVERAGES OF OUR DEBT ISSUANCES.
SO IN SUMMARY, OUR FUND, ONCE WE START GENERATING MORE DOLLARS INTO IT, WE CAN USE IT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAMS, UH, CITYWIDE.
THIS CAN BE USED TO HELP PILOT NEW HOUSING PROGRAM INITIATIVES OR SUPPLEMENT SOME OF OUR EXISTING PROGRAMS LIKE WE DID WITH OUR HOME REHAB PROGRAMS. WE WILL COME BACK TO A COUNCIL COMMITTEE IN THE FUTURE ON RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW THE FUNDS CAN BE USED TO HELP ACHIEVE OUR STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN GOALS AS, UH, FUNDING ACCUMULATES INTO THE FUND.
SO THAT'S A VERY BRIEF OVERVIEW AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
I WAS VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
I, I ASKED FOR, TO COME TO THIS COMMITTEE SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE, UM, THE MAYOR HAD ASKED US TO, TO TAKE A LITTLE LEAD IN IMPROVING THE FUND.
SO I'M EXCITED THAT IT, IT'S FINALLY HERE.
UM, I KNOW WE'VE MADE SOME AMENDMENTS IN THE PAST FOR THE FEE REVENUE TO BE TRANSFERRED TO THIS FUND, AND I'M HAPPY, I KNOW COUNCILMAN COURAGE AND WE'LL START WITH HIM BECAUSE IT WAS HIS IDEA AND THEN WE'LL GO, I KNOW COUNCILMAN MAKI RODRIGUEZ HAS ALSO, UM, ASKED ABOUT IT.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT WE CAN TAKE A HOLISTIC APPROACH NOW TO HOW THE CONTRIBUTIONS COME IN AND HOW WE CAN INTEGRATE IT ALSO TO THE SHIP, WHICH IS A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PRIORITIES.
WHEN CAN WE EXPECT IS TO COME BACK, LIKE FOR A, A SECOND ROUND? UH, BASED ON AT THE END OF 2023, WE'LL HAVE AROUND $300,000.
SO THAT MIGHT BE A TIME TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT A YEAR FROM NOW, JUST ONCE WE ACTUALLY HAVE ACTUAL REVENUE IN THE FUND THAT WE CAN COME BACK AND START RECOMMENDING, UM, SOME DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
CAN WE ALSO RECEIVE SOME BACKUP AS TO THE VARIOUS EXPENDITURES THAT WE HAVE MADE THROUGH THIS FUND? KIND OF MAYBE A, A HISTORICAL ANALYSIS SO THAT WE CAN SEE WHERE IT HAS BEEN, UM, I GUESS, UH, PLACED, ET CETERA.
AND MOST OF THE EXPENDITURES FROM THE FUND HAVE GONE TO HELP WITH THE UNDER ONE ROOF AND THE MINOR REPAIR PROGRAM.
CAN YOU ALSO BREAK IT DOWN BY COUNCIL DISTRICT? SURE.
AND THEN AGAIN, WE'LL START WITH, UH, COUNCILMAN COURAGE.
I, I HEARD YOU DO AN ESTIMATE OF HOW MUCH WAS IN THE FUND TODAY AND IS IT JUST THE EIGHTY NINE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND EIGHTY NINE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED? YES.
SO 89,500 IS WHAT IS UNCOMMITTED RIGHT NOW.
UNCOMMITTED, WE HAVE ANOTHER ALMOST 1.7 MILLION IN THE FUND NOW.
UM, BUT THOSE ARE COMMITTED MOSTLY TO A SPECIFIC HOME REPAIR PROGRAM.
SOME OF 'EM ARE COMMITTED BY COUNCIL DISTRICT.
WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF FUNDING IN THERE AROUND A HUNDRED THOUSAND OF THAT 1.7 MILLION THAT IS SET ASIDE FOR INFILL HOUSING PROGRAMS. OKAY.
UH, I SEE YOUR ESTIMATE ON CONDUIT DEBT IN INSURANCE ISSUANCE FEE, AND HOPEFULLY THAT WON'T JUST BE A STATIC NUMBER OVER TIME.
AND I'M ALWAYS LOOKING FOR OTHER WAYS OF TRYING TO FEED ADDITIONAL, UH, RESOURCES THAT THE CITY GETS RELATED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING INTO THIS FUND.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY TO LOOK
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FOR WHATEVER OTHER SOURCES MIGHT BE GOOD CONTRIBUTORS, BUT I'M HAPPY TO SEE IT MOVING FORWARD.THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN COURAGE.
AND UH, THANK YOU VERONICA FOR THE PRESENTATION AND COUNCILMAN COURAGE FOR PUTTING FORTH THIS IDEA.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO SUPPORT THE SHIP AND, UH, WITH THE LAST BUDGET, RIGHT THERE WAS CONVERSATION ABOUT SUPPORTING THE HOUSING TRUST.
I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPORT THE HOUSING TRUST AND PRODUCING THAT DEEP AFFORDABILITY, UH, AS WELL, SUPPORTING THE CONSTRUCTION OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OR SUPPORTING IMPROVEMENTS FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
UM, SO THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT I WOULD PROVIDE IS, UM, ONE SUPPORTING THE, THE HOUSING TRUST IN THE SAME WAY THAT WE DID RECENTLY WITH THE, THE BUDGET, UH, AS WELL AS SUPPORTING THE CONSTRUCTION OR REHABILITATION OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
YEAH, I JUST WANNA AGREE WITH MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUE THAT I THINK, UM, THE REHABILITATION AND MAYBE, MAYBE ONE OF THE REASONS, ONE OF THE WAYS WE CAN GET MORE, UH, MORE LOOK FOR MORE FUNDS IS IF WE LOOK AT DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROGRAMS OR VARIOUS PROGRAMS. SO IF WE COULD LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.
AND THEN ALSO SEEING WHAT OUR UTILITIES, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, SPECIFICALLY SAWS CAN HELP WITH, BECAUSE I THINK AFFORDABILITY IS MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE DOING THEIR CORRECT MAINTENANCE ON THEIR HOMES.
UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE PLUMBING ISSUES, THE, THE HVAC ISSUES.
VERY MUCH WHAT WE HEARD PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE DEPARTMENTS, UM, THAT THEY DO THAT TO THEIR RESIDENTS ALSO.
WE SEE THAT A LOT IN OUR HOME REHAB.
IF SOMEONE HAS A LEAKING ROOF AND IT'S NOT ADDRESSED THE FOUNDATION, I MEAN, IT JUST CREATES A WHOLE BUNCH.
SO YEAH, THE SOONER WE CAN INTERVENE WITH HELP, THE BETTER.
THANK YOU COUNCILMAN, COUNCILMAN.
YEAH, I GUESS I JUST HAD A, A THOUGHT THAT CAME IN MIND.
I WANT TO ASK IF THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, UM, ISSUES WITH RENTAL, UH, HOMES AND MAYBE THERE'S PROBLEMS AND WE'RE CITING THEM AND SOMETIMES THERE'S FINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
COULD SOME OF THAT BE REDIRECTED INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, INSTEAD OF GOING INTO THE GENERAL FUND? IS THAT SOMETHING THE COUNCIL COULD CONSIDER? 'CAUSE IF THERE'S 5,000, 10,000, $25,000 WORTH OF FINES IN A YEAR, UH, RELATED TO CITATIONS ON, ON HOUSING THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, COULD BE FROM BAD ACTORS OR WHATEVER, I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO PUT THAT SINCE SOME OF THIS MONEY IS DIRECTED TOWARDS HELPING PEOPLE WITH HOMES AND HELPING HOMELESSNESS AND REHABILITATING HOMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO FUTURE CONSIDERATION, TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND LET US KNOW AND WE'LL LOOK AT THAT.
IF IT IS GOING IN THE GENERAL FUND, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT.
IT MIGHT BE GOING INTO THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ENTERPRISE FUND AND WE'LL CLARIFY FOR, FOR YOU AND SEE IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DIVERT THAT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN COURAGE AND THANK YOU SO MUCH VERONICA.
I, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE, THERE'S AN ACTION THAT'S JUST A BRIEFING BRIEFING.
WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS BRIEFING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PROACTIVE APARTMENT INSPECTIONS, TASK FORCE AND DEVELOPMENT OF POTENTIAL CODE CHANGES TO ADDRESS VIOLATIONS AT MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
AND THAT'LL BE PRESENTED BY MIKE SHANNON.
ALRIGHT, GOOD MORNING, COUNCILWOMAN AND UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
AGAIN, I'M MIKE SHANNON, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, AND YES, I'LL TALK ABOUT, UM, AN UPDATE TO OUR PROACTIVE APARTMENT INSPECTION PROGRAM THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, UH, FOR THE PAST COUPLE MONTHS.
SO, UH, JUST A QUICK REMINDER.
WE WERE BACK HERE IN AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER, UH, DUE TO SOME RECENT EVENTS THIS SUMMER THAT HAD SOME, UH, PRETTY BAD APARTMENT, UH, CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUES.
UH, AND WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, UH, DEVELOPING THROUGH A COUPLE OF PHASES, UH, HOW WE CAN, UH, DO MORE PROACTIVE AND MORE, UH, STRATEGIC, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT ON, UH, MULTIFAMILY PROPERTY.
UH, SO PHASE ONE, ACTUALLY YOU ALL APPROVED THAT RIGHT AWAY THROUGH THE BUDGET.
UM, WE ACTUALLY, UH, GOT TWO ADDITIONAL CODE OFFICERS IN, UH, ON OUR TEAM, UH, IN THOSE POSITIONS.
WERE PART OF THE BUDGET, AND ACTUALLY WE HIRED THOSE TWO CODE OFFICERS IN NOVEMBER.
SO THEY'RE HERE, ACTUALLY HERE WITH US TODAY, ANNA RODRIGUEZ AND PAMELA BAILEY.
UH, ACTUALLY SOME SEASONED CODE OFFICERS.
UH, SO THEY, UH, APPLIED FOR, WE, UH, SELECTED THEM FOR THIS TEAM BECAUSE WE WANTED TO RAMP UP QUICKLY.
UH, WE DO LIKE GETTING NEW CODE OFFICERS AND TRAINING THEM UP, BUT, UM, PAMELA AND ANNA ARE GONNA HELP US, UH, RIGHT AWAY.
JUST HAVE SOME CODE OFFICERS DO APARTMENT INSPECTIONS OR RESPOND TO THOSE APARTMENT CALLS, UH, SPECIFICALLY.
UH, AND THAT'S ALL THEY'LL DO ALL DAY EVERY DAY, AS OPPOSED TO A GENERAL CODE OFFICER HAS OVER 50 TYPES OF CALLS THAT THEY WOULD, UH, RESPOND TO OR LOOK FOR.
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ONE THAT'S HAPPENING NOW.AND, UH, UH, SO EXCITED TO HAVE THEM BOTH HERE.
UH, WE WANTED TO INTRODUCE THEM TO THE GROUP.
UM, SO, UH, BUT PHASE TWO IS REALLY, UH, ALSO WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, WHICH IS, UH, LOOKING AT WHAT WE COULD DO.
BAD ACTOR APARTMENTS, UH, UH, REGISTRATION PROGRAM OR A PROACTIVE APPRO UH, PROGRAM.
SO WE HAVE BEEN MEETING SINCE, UH, YOU AUTHORIZED THIS BACK IN SEPTEMBER, LATE SEPTEMBER.
UH, WE HAVE BEEN MEETING, WE DEVELOPED A STAKEHOLDER GROUP, A BALANCED STAKEHOLDER GROUP, AND WE'VE BEEN MEETING, UM, SINCE, AND I HAVE AN UPDATE FOR YOU, UH, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT.
SO, UH, JUST, UH, THIS IS A STAKEHOLDER GROUP AND I REALLY HAVE TO SAY THANK YOU.
WHAT ARE THIS, THIS GROUP HAS BEEN FANTASTIC SO FAR.
WE GOT THEM ALL TOGETHER FAIRLY QUICKLY.
UH, SO I WON'T READ OFF THEIR NAMES.
SO I WILL SAY THANK YOU, UH, TO ALL THOSE ON THIS LIST, AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC MEMBERS.
SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT HAVE BEEN ATTENDING ALL OF THESE MEETINGS ARE HERE AS WELL.
SO, UH, WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE.
UH, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN MEETING, UH, THREE HOUR MEETINGS.
WE'VE HAD SIX OF THEM SO FAR, AND THEY ARE REALLY, UH, WRESTLING WITH AND DEBATING, UH, WHAT IS THIS PROGRAM GOING TO LOOK LIKE? OR WHAT, WHAT SHOULD IT LOOK LIKE? UH, SO A LOT OF GREAT WORK SO FAR.
SO WHAT HAVE WE BEEN DOING? SO, SINCE OCTOBER, WE STARTED OCTOBER 18TH, WE'VE HAD SIX OF THESE MEETINGS.
UM, THEY WERE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, UH, EACH ABOUT THREE HOURS EACH.
UH, MOST OF THEM WERE IN PERSON.
WE DID A, A VIRTUAL ONE AS WELL.
UH, SO WE'RE OPEN TO KIND OF MIXING IT UP A LITTLE BIT.
AND WE TOOK PUBLIC COMMENTS, UH, AT EACH AND EVERY MEETING.
UH, THROUGH THOSE MEETINGS, IT'S OBVIOUS, CLEARLY EVERYONE AGREES THERE'S AN ISSUE HERE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, AND, AND WE'RE WORKING HARD, UH, GOING THROUGH SPECIFIC CODE, PROCESSES, VIOLATIONS, ET CETERA, TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THIS COULD AND SHOULD LOOK LIKE.
UH, WE EVEN HAD, UH, SOME COMMUNITY INPUT MEETINGS JUST LAST WEEK, UH, A VIRTUAL AND IN PERSON JUST TO SAY, HEY, GIVE THE STAKEHOLDERS, UH, A GROUP A, A, A BREAK.
BUT WE ALSO WANTED TO LET THE, UH, COMMUNITY JUST THROUGH OPEN MEETING, LET 'EM KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING, UH, WHAT WE'RE AT, AND TO TAKE COMMENT AS WELL.
SO, UH, LET ME HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF THE DISCUSSION TOPICS.
AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, CODE ENFORCEMENT AT APARTMENTS OR ANYWHERE IS, UH, CHALLENGING.
THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, RULES AND REGULATIONS, A LOT OF LAWS.
SO, UH, WE SPENT A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME GOING OVER THAT OUR CURRENT CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESSES AND WHAT THEY COULD AND SHOULD LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE.
UH, WE ACTUALLY SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT NOTICES VERSUS CITATIONS.
SO IF YOU HAVE A, A VIOLATION THAT WE CONFIRM, WE GENERALLY GIVE YOU NOTICE, WE NOTIFY YOU, YOU HAVE A VIOLATION, AND THEN YOU HAVE, BY LAW AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIX IT.
UH, AGAIN, THAT'S WHETHER YOU'RE A LANDLORD OR WHETHER YOU'RE A PROPERTY OWNER, UH, SINGLE FAMILY OR A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS.
UH, WE WENT OVER SOME MOST COMMON VIOLATIONS.
SOME OF THAT DATA I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE SHOWN AT, UH, SOME OF THESE MEETINGS, UH, BACK IN SEPTEMBER, MAYBE AUGUST.
UH, BUT THINGS LIKE INTERIOR, UM, UNIT VIOLATIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT BE, UH, YOU KNOW, AND WATER VIOLATIONS, LEAKY FAUCETS, UH, WATER LEAKS, NO, NO WATER, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
UH, WATER, SEWER ISSUES, DUMPSTER ISSUES.
SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE MOST COMMON ONES.
WE WENT THROUGH THAT, UH, WE LOOKED AT ABOUT 18 MONTHS OF APARTMENT DATA TO, TO KIND OF GIVE THE, THE GROUP SOME CONTEXT AS TO WHAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW.
UH, WE ALSO REVIEWED SOME DIFFERENT PROPOSALS BY DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS, YOU KNOW, SOME THINGS THAT WERE THROWN OUT THERE.
AND, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS, THIS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER IN ONE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SO NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, JUST, I'M GONNA PUT THIS AS A SIDE NOTE, BUT EDUCATION, RIGHT? IT HAS TO BE, UH, MORE OF IT, MORE, UH, EDUCATION FOR NOT ONLY THE TENANTS, BUT PROPERTY OWNERS, MANAGERS, UH, CODE PROCESS, THEIR RIGHTS, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, RESPONSIBILITIES, ET CETERA.
SO THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE PART OF THIS AT THE END ANYWAY, UH, AND WE'RE ALREADY WORKING TOWARDS THAT.
SOME OF THAT'S ALREADY OUT THERE ON WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT A LOT MORE TO COME.
WE ALSO DISCUSSED SOME OF OUR ANNUAL MAINTENANCE PERMITS.
SO FOR HVAC SYSTEMS, ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS, IF YOU'RE GONNA TWEAK SOMETHING IN APARTMENTS, UH, THERE ARE SOME ANNUAL MAINTENANCE PERMITS REQUIREMENTS.
SO A LOT HAD BEEN DISCUSSED, UH, SO FAR.
SO, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, UH, AM I A TIMER? I'M DONE.
I TRIED TO GET IT IN THERE, BUT, OKAY.
SO REALLY WHAT YOU HAD ASKED ME TO DO, AND I REMEMBER THIS VIVIDLY, WAS, HEY, TRY TO GET IT DONE QUICKLY IN THREE MONTHS.
AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD.
I MEAN, THIS GROUP, UH, THAT WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH, AND AS LONG AS, AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY, USUALLY THESE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS, GROUPS MEET EVERY TWO OR THREE WEEKS, MAYBE SOMETIMES MONTHLY.
WE ACTUALLY ASK THEM TO COMMIT TO WEEKLY MEETINGS, AND THEY HAVE DONE.
I THINK WE TOOK THE THANKSGIVING WEEK OFF, THAT WAS ABOUT IT.
UH, BUT THEY'VE BEEN REALLY AT THE TABLE, UH, WORKING HARD.
SO, UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU A STATUS REPORT, WE ARE NOT, WE DON'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE TO PROPOSE TO YOU TODAY, UH, BECAUSE WE, WE STILL HAVE SOME THINGS TO WORK OUT AND AGREE TO BUILD SOME CONSENSUS AROUND.
UH, BUT, BUT A COUPLE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BUILT CONSENSUS WITH THE GROUP ON IS HOW DO WE DEFINE A BAD ACTOR? THAT'S THE QUESTION, RIGHT? ARE YOU A BAD, ARE YOU A BAD DRIVER? IF YOU GET ONE SPEEDING TICKET EVERY FIVE YEARS, THAT'S DEBATABLE.
UH, BUT IF YOU GOT, IF YOU GOT
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FIVE, FIVE IN A MONTH OR FIVE EVERY SIX MONTHS, WELL, MAYBE THAT, MAYBE YOU'RE NOT THE BEST DRIVER, RIGHT? MAYBE, MAYBE THAT MEANS I WOULDN'T CALL YOU A BAD DRIVER, BUT MAYBE THAT'S IT.SO THAT'S KIND OF THE CONCEPT.
UH, SO THE OTHER ITEM WAS SHOULD THEY BE BASED ON NOTICES OF VIOLATIONS OR CITATIONS? UM, THE, THE, THE, THE OVERALL ANSWER IS, IS CITATIONS.
UH, THE, THE, THE COMMITTEE FELT THAT, LOOK, IF WE GET CALLED, AND SOMETIMES CODE, CODE ENFORCEMENTS GETS CALLED FIRST, NOT ALWAYS, BUT SOMETIMES WE GET CALLED FIRST IF WE VERIFY A, A VIOLATION AND WE GIVE THE APARTMENT MANAGER OR, OR OWNER A, A NOTICE OF VIOLATION AND THEY FIX IT WITHIN THAT 10 DAY WINDOW, ET CETERA.
WE WANT QUICK COMPLIANCE BY THE LANDLORD TO MEET THE MINIMUM, UH, PROPERTY STANDARDS, HOUSING STANDARDS.
SO IT'S WHEN THEY CHOOSE NOT TO, OR THEY DON'T, THEY GET A CITATION FROM THE CITY, MEANING A TICKET, WE'RE GONNA GO TO COURT.
SO THOSE ARE GONNA BE THE TRIGGERS FOR THE BAD ACTOR.
THAT'S WHAT THE, THAT'S WHAT, UH, WHAT THE, THE, THE GROUP FELT WAS APPROPRIATE.
UH, NOW THIS WAS THE OTHER ONE.
YOU HEARD SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THIS, BUT WHERE THEY LANDED WAS FIVE CITATIONS.
THERE WAS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT DIFFERENT TYPES OF CITATIONS OR VIOLATIONS.
SOME SHOULD BE COUNTED MORE, SOME SHOULD BE COUNTED LESS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, HOW MANY IS IN SIX MONTHS OR IS IT A YEAR? LIKE HOW THIS RUNNING WINDOW, HOW MANY CITATIONS? BUT FIVE CITATIONS, NO MATTER IF YOU GET A CITATION FOR SOMETHING INSIDE YOUR UNIT OR EVEN OUTSIDE, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW, THAT, THAT, BUT WE HAVE OTHER TOPICS.
SO THINGS LIKE, IS THE HEALTH AND SAFETY VIOLATIONS PERTINENT TO THE PROGRAM? ARE THERE SOME THAT SHOULDN'T BE COUNTED? SO FOR EXAMPLE, I THINK YOU HEARD SOME OF THIS.
SO TALL WEEDS AND HIGH GRASS, IS THAT REALLY IMPORTANT FOR, UH, FOR THE TENANTS IN THIS ISSUE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? IS THAT ONE OF THE HEALTH AND SAFETY? SOME PEOPLE SAY, ABSOLUTELY, YES.
SOME PEOPLE SAY ABSOLUTELY NO, AND WE NEED TO FOCUS ON CERTAIN THINGS.
SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH ALL OF OUR VIOLATIONS.
AND THE COMMITTEE, I THINK ON ONE OF OUR LAST MEETINGS, SPENT, UH, ALMOST THREE HOURS GOING THROUGH ABOUT 20 DIFFERENT VIOLATIONS AND ARGUING, SHOULD THESE NOT ARGUING, DEBATING, UH, WHICH ONES SHOULD BE ON THE LIST AND WHICH ONE SHOULD BE COUNTED OR NOT.
NOW, THEY'RE ALL VIOLATIONS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF, BUT THIS IS ONLY FOR WHETHER IT WOULD COUNT TO BRING, BRING THEM INTO THE BAD ACTOR PROGRAM.
IF AND WHEN WE GET A BAD ACTOR, HOW, HOW FREQUENT SHOULD THEY BE SUBJECT TO PROACTIVE INSPECTIONS, MONTHLY, QUARTERLY, EVERY SIX MONTHS, ET CETERA.
THAT NEEDS TO BE DEBATED AND DECIDED UPON.
ALSO, HOW LONG WILL THEY BE IN IT? SO IF YOU'RE A BAD ACTOR, LANDLORD, QUOTE UNQUOTE, AND YOU NEED THESE PROACTIVE INSPECTIONS, IS THERE AN INCENTIVE FOR THEM TO REALLY SHAPE UP, DO BETTER MAINTENANCE ON THEMSELVES, AND AFTER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, MONTHS, YEARS, ET CETERA, WITH NO VIOLATIONS, CAN THEY GET OUT OF THE PROGRAM AND NOT BE SUBJECT TO THAT? UH, THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED.
SO WHAT ABOUT, UH, WHAT ABOUT AN APPEAL PROCESS? RIGHT? EVERYTHING WE DO IN CODE ENFORCEMENT IS APPEALABLE, RIGHT? SO IF YOU GET A CODE VIOLATION, YOU CAN APPEAL IT TO EITHER THE, THE JUDGE, YOU CAN APPEAL IT TO THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD, YOU CAN APPEAL IT TO THE DIRECTOR.
SO WE HAVE TO DECIDE IF THERE'S GONNA BE AN APPEAL PROCESS, IF A, UH, IF A LANDLORD FEELS THAT THAT WAS NOT AN APPROPRIATE VIOLATION OR, OR, OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE COST OF BEING IN THE PROGRAM.
UH, BECAUSE ONCE WE DECIDE ON ALL THE VARIABLES, THEN MY TEAM AND I WILL HAVE TO COST THAT OUT.
MEANING, WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO DO THAT? IF WE ESTIMATE SO MANY PROPERTIES NEED TO DO IT, HOW MANY CODE OFFICERS WOULD THAT TAKE? AND THEREFORE, THOSE BAD ACTORS WOULD BE SUBJECT TO A FEE TO PAY FOR THAT.
IT HAS TO BE A COST RECOVERY MODEL.
SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ONES.
NOW, I WILL TELL YOU, THERE'S ONLY TWO BULLETS UP TOP, BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF ENERGY EFFORT DISCUSSION IN THERE.
I BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA GET THROUGH THE OTHER ONES A LITTLE BIT MORE QUICKLY.
SO, UH, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE NOT READY FOR A COMPLETE ORDINANCE TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY A PROPOSAL OR TO CONSIDER.
BUT THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS MONTH, UH, AND INTO THE, UH, EARLY NEXT YEAR.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION, OF COURSE, IS TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP, UH, CONTINUE TAKING PUBLIC INPUT OVER THE NEXT, UH, COUPLE OF MONTHS.
UH, I BELIEVE IF WE CONTINUE THAT, WE, WE CAN BE BACK HERE IN FEBRUARY, UH, WITH I THINK AN ORDINANCE.
WE CAN WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WHO'S ATTENDING AS WELL, AND LISTENING TO ALL THIS THAT WE CAN PUT SOMETHING APPROPRIATE THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE EFFECTIVE, UH, AND WE CAN QUICKLY GET IT IMPLEMENTED.
IF WE GET BACK HERE IN FEBRUARY, HOPEFULLY, THEN WE COULD TURN IT AROUND TO CITY COUNCIL, THE FULL CITY COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION, UH, LATER THAT MONTH OR INTO MARCH.
SO THAT'S MY PROPOSAL, AND, UM, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT WHERE WE ARE TODAY, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR WORK, AND I WANNA THANK ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP, UM, FOR THEIR COMMITMENT AND THEIR WORK.
UH, AND I ALSO WANNA APOLOGIZE BECAUSE WHEN I GAVE MIKE SHANNON A DEADLINE OF DECEMBER, I DIDN'T REALIZE HE WAS GONNA MAKE Y'ALL MEET EVERY WEEK.
SO I'M SO SORRY, UM, ABOUT THAT.
BUT, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ALL HAVE MADE, UH, GREAT PROGRESS.
AND SO, AND I THINK THAT, THAT WE'VE DONE THIS IN A, A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME.
AND, UM, JUST JUDGING FROM SOME OF THE, THE COMMENTS EARLIER TODAY, I THINK THAT THERE'S STILL SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR IMPROVEMENT
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AND, AND TO KIND OF TAKE OUR TIME AND, AND SEE SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT MAYBE WE CAN DO.I DO, UM, WANNA GIVE A, A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO, UM, NIKKI, WHO HAS MADE EVERY MEETING, EVERY COMMITTEE MEETING, UM, TAKES THE, THE VIA, UM, TO GET THERE AND IS SITS ON THE HOUSING COMMITTEE, ONE OF THE HOUSING COMMISSION SUBCOMMITTEES.
AND SO THAT'S INCREDIBLE COMMITMENT, RIGHT? AND ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S, YOU ALL HAVE BEEN MEETING SO MUCH AND, AND ONLY ONE WEEK OFF.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO THAT.
UM, I HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE COMMITTEE ABOUT WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE, MIKE, HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO RESEARCH THAT AND, AND MAYBE WHAT HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED ACROSS TEXAS? YEAH, EAR EARLY.
I THINK ONE OF THE FIRST OR SECOND MEETINGS, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER ORDINANCE THAT WE'VE SEEN, UH, IN THE DALLAS AREA, WHICH WAS WAS, IT WAS KIND OF EVERY APARTMENT, UH, PROGRAM.
UH, WE REFERENCE THAT EVERY NOW AND THEN WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT TYPES OF VIOLATIONS THEY'RE LOOKING AT AND SUCH.
UH, SO I THINK THERE WERE SOME OTHER CITIES AS WELL, UH, THAT WE LOOKED AT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, I HEARD TODAY WAS ABOUT THE SENIOR INDEPENDENT CARE SYSTEM, UM, SORRY, SENIOR INDEPENDENT CARE SYSTEM.
UH, I HEARD THAT, UH, MENTIONED TODAY BY A COUPLE OF THE, THE COMMENTS.
AND SO I'D LIKE TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT, UM, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THROUGH THE COMMENTS THAT, UM, THAT WAS NEVER IMPLEMENTED BECAUSE OF COVID, BUT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WAS.
UH, SO I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR THAT, BUT I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA TAKE A STAB AT IT.
I THINK WHEN WE TALKED IN AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER, WE, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, THE CITY HAS TRIED THIS BEFORE, RIGHT? BACK IN EVEN OH OH 8, 0 9, THERE, THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A, A, THEY LOOKED AT MAYBE AN APARTMENT INSPECTION PROGRAM.
AND THEN IN 17, 20 17, THERE WAS A C C R FOR SENIOR APARTMENT COMPLEXES OR SENIOR LIVING FACILITIES, UH, THAT WE WORKED ON FOR A COUPLE YEARS.
AND THEN REALLY THE PANDEMIC HIT RIGHT AT, BECAUSE WE WERE WORKING UP UNTIL LATE 2019 ON IT.
UM, I THINK MAYBE IF WE HAD A FEW MORE MONTHS, BUT THAT WAS A CHALLENGING ONE ALSO BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, DEFINING A SENIOR, UH, CARE FACILITY.
BUT I, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE REFERRING TO.
I THINK YOU, YOU WERE REFERRING TO THAT.
THEN OKAY, THEN I KIND OF AM FAMILIAR WITH THAT, BUT, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I DIDN'T MISS SOMETHING, UM, UH, ON THE FIVE OR MORE CITATIONS WITHIN SIX MONTHS.
SO THAT CAN EQUATE TO HOW MANY NOTICES, LIKE SO 30, OR IS THAT, YEAH, SO YEAH, THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
SO IF YOU, YOU COULD GET 30 NOTICES, AND IF YOU CORRECT ALL 30 OF THOSE WITHIN THE TIME, WITHIN THE, MOST OF THE VIOLATIONS, GET A 10 DAY NOTICE.
UM, AND WHEN WE COME BACK IN, IN THE 11TH DAY, IF YOU WILL, IF IT'S FIXED, THEN THAT NEVER TURNS INTO A CITATION.
UM, NOW SOME, SOME ISSUES, IF IT'S THE SAME THING, IF IT'S A REPEAT ISSUE, UH, WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE YOU NOTICE.
WE CAN GIVE YOU A CITATION BECAUSE THE IDEA IS, YOU KNOW, BETTER, YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE THIS VIOLATION AND UNIT.
SO THAT FIRST ONE IS EDUCATION, BUT YOU COULD GET 30 NOTICES, AND IF YOU CORRECT ALL THEM, THEN THOSE WOULDN'T BE A CITATION THAT'S COUNTED TOWARD THIS.
MAYBE YOU'RE IN THE BAD ACTOR.
AND THAT WAS A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION OF, UH, SHOULD IT BE NOTICES OR CITATIONS? BUT I THINK AT THE END, PEOPLE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE LANDLORDS FIX THE PROBLEMS AND MAYBE A BREAKDOWN, RIGHT? OF WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED MIGHT BE HELPFUL.
UM, I, I THINK THAT A LOT OF US ARE VISUAL, RIGHT? SO KINDA LIKE A SIDE BY SIDE WOULD BE NICE.
AND, AND KIND OF WHERE, WHERE IT GOES OR WHAT TYPE WOULD BE CONSIDERED, UM, CITATIONS OR AT WHAT POINT OR NOTICES AND AT WHAT POINT IT BECOMES A CITATION.
BECAUSE THEORETICALLY, A PROPERTY COULD RECEIVE 20 NOTICES TO COMPLY, RIGHT? AND THEN EVENTUALLY RECEIVE, UH, FOUR CITATIONS AND STILL NOT GET INTO A BAD ACTOR'S LIST, CORRECT? IF IN THAT SCENARIO, THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THEY FIXED 16 OF THEIR VIOLATIONS, BUT FOR SOME REASON THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T FIX FOUR IN THE TIMELINE WE GAVE THEM.
SO, YOU KNOW, THEY EITHER NEVER FIXED IT AND WERE GOING TO COURT, OR MAYBE IT TOOK THEM 20 OR 30 DAYS TO FIX IT, BUT THEY WOULD GET FOUR CITATIONS.
BUT THE 16, THOSE OTHER ONES, THEY, THEY FIXED IN THE TIME WE GAVE THEM, SO.
UH, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION, UM, IN FEBRUARY.
SO I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS, UH, I, I WOULD BE FINE WITH IT.
I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT MY COLLEAGUES THINK.
AND I'LL START OFF WITH COUNCILMAN CASTILLO.
UH, THANK YOU, MIKE, FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THE CONTINUED WORK ON, UH, ENSURING THAT WE SHIFT, UH, THE DIRECTION OF, UM, COMPASSIONATE CODE COMPLIANCE IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
I ALSO WANNA, UH, EXPRESS MY THANKS TO THE FOLKS WHO CAME AND GAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, SHARING YOUR STORIES AND THE IMPORTANCE OF, UH, MAKING THIS A PRIORITY.
UM, I DO HAVE SIMILAR QUESTIONS WITH THE SENIOR IMPROVEMENT SYSTEM.
UH, AND IF WE COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK AT THE TIERED MODEL THAT WAS RECOMMENDED THEN, UH, WITH THE, THE VIOLATIONS, UH, I, I AM A BIT HESITANT WITH THE NUMBER FIVE, AND I GET THE ANALOGY
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RIGHT, BUT SOMETIMES CITATIONS JUST JUST MEAN YOU JUST GOT CAUGHT, RIGHT?UM, AND I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD POTENTIALLY LOWER THAT TO HAVE SOME CONSISTENCY WITH THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS, RIGHT? AGAIN, WHAT I HEAR FROM, I KNOW IT DEPENDS, RIGHT? IT'S A CASE BY CASE ISSUE, UM, BUT OFTENTIMES IT'S LIKE THE THIRD, UM, CITATION, RIGHT? THAT OFTEN LEADS TO THE BODEAN STANDARDS BOARD OR SOMETHING DRASTIC.
AND I DON'T EVER WANNA FIND, UH, ANY APARTMENT COMPLEX IN THAT STATE OR IN THAT PIPELINE.
UM, BUT ENSURING THAT THERE'S SOME TYPE OF CONSISTENCY, UM, WITH MULTIFAMILY AND RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, UM, I, I THINK IS SOME THE DIRECTION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE.
UH, BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REVISIT THE SENIOR IMPROVEMENT SYSTEM IN THAT TIERED SYSTEM THAT WAS, UH, PRESENTED.
UM, THOSE ARE ALL MY COMMENTS FOR NOW.
MU CASTILLO, COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL, THANK YOU, CHAIR.
I WANNA THANK, UH, THIS COMMITTEE FOR TAKING ON THIS ITEM.
AND, UH, I ALSO WANNA THANK YOU FOR MAKING SURE THAT A PRODUCT COMES QUICKLY IN A, IN A TIMELY FASHION.
THANK YOU, MIKE, FOR YOUR WORK AND TO ALL THOSE RESIDENTS WHO CAME OUT TODAY TO, TO WATCH, TO LISTEN, UH, AND TO SPEAK.
WHAT, WHAT HAPPENED, UH, TO YOU THAT HAS BEEN FOREFRONT AT THE MIND OF MYSELF AND MY TEAM AS WE'VE COME UP WITH SUGGESTIONS FOR, FOR THE WORK OF THIS COMMITTEE AS WELL? UM, SO, UH, FIRST OF ALL, I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH ERIC.
UH, WE, WE'VE HAD A BACK AND FORTH ABOUT THIS, UNDERSTAND THAT THE PURPOSE OF THE BAD ACTORS LIST IS TO, UM, DISCOURAGE VIOLATIONS, RIGHT? TO PUT SOME PUBLIC PRESSURE ON, ON, UH, BUILDINGS AND, AND APARTMENT MANAGERS FOR WHEN THESE THINGS HAPPEN.
AND THAT IN THE LONG RUN, THE GOAL, THE IDEA IS THAT THAT WOULD REDUCE THE NUMBER OF VIOLATIONS AND THAT WOULD RESULT IN SAFER AND, UM, HEALTHIER LIVING CONDITIONS FOR EVERYONE.
IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY.
EVEN WHEN WE ADOPT THESE IN, IN FEBRUARY OR MARCH, IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY, AND IT'S NOT GONNA BE A HUNDRED PERCENT EFFECTIVE, RIGHT? THERE WILL STILL BE VIOLATIONS.
SO, UM, I JUST, I WANT TO KNOW WHERE IS THE APPROPRIATE PLACE TO, TO ADDRESS THIS IF IN YOUR ORDINANCE OR, OR IF WE NEED ANOTHER APPROACH.
WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU WILL STILL HAVE ABOUT 30 DAYS, RIGHT? BEFORE SOMEONE GETS ON THAT BAD ACTOR LIST, OR SOMEONE MIGHT NOT HAVE HOT WATER, OR SOMEONE MAY BE LIVING WITH MOLD, UH, IN THEIR, IN THEIR BUILDING, OR SOMEONE MAY NOT HAVE WATER AT ALL BECAUSE THEIR TOILET'S NOT FLUSHING.
UM, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE EARLIER MENTIONED, UH, GIVE US PATIENCE.
I CANNOT GIVE PATIENTS WHEN SOMEONE DOESN'T HAVE HOT WATER BECAUSE THEY CANNOT GO TO WORK.
BUT, UM, OR WHEN SOMEONE'S TOILET DOESN'T FLUSH, LIKE THAT'S NOT THE THING THAT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE PATIENCE ON.
THERE IS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THOSE TWO ENTITIES, AND WE EXPECT THE LANDLORDS TO, TO RESPECT THAT AND TO MAKE GOOD WITH THAT.
SO, UM, MY QUESTION IS, IS IT POSSIBLE TO INTEGRATE INTO THIS ORDINANCE A POSSIBLE REQUIREMENT, A ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT BEYOND JUST FIXING IT, RIGHT? BUT THAT THAT PERSON HAS TO HAVE A WORKING TOILET EVERY DAY, RIGHT? OR, OR 29 OUT OF 30 DAYS THAT THAT PERSON HAS TO HAVE HOT WATER, AND WHEN THEY DON'T, UM, YOU WORK ON FIXING IT, BUT YOU MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE, THAT THEY'RE SET UP IN A PLACE WHERE THEY HAVE HOT WATER, THAT THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO EITHER GO TO A MOTEL OR GO TO ANOTHER, UM, ANOTHER UNIT ON SITE.
IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN DO? OR IS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PURSUE OTHERWISE? WELL, I'LL, I'LL TAKE A STAB AT IT.
UM, SO I THINK, UH, FIRST OF ALL, WE, WE, WE COULD LOOK AT THAT.
I HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEYS HERE.
UM, WHAT WE COULD PUT INTO AN ORDINANCE WITHOUT GOING, WITHOUT GOING AGAINST STATE LAW AND OUR OWN, UH, LOCAL LAW.
I MEAN, THE IDEA IS, YES, THERE WILL BE CODE ISSUES IN PROPERTIES, AND ONCE, ONCE THERE'S A NOTICE OF THAT OR A VERIFIED, UH, ISSUE, WHETHER IT'S THE MANAGER WHO GETS IT OR WE GIVE IT TO THEM, UH, THERE IS GENERALLY A RIGHT OR A TIME TO CURE, THREE DAYS, SEVEN DAYS, 10 DAYS, 30 DAYS, DEPENDING ON IT.
UM, SO WE COULD LOOK AT THAT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT ELSE WE COULD CHOOSE TO PUT AND BRING WHEN WE BRING THAT BACK, BRING THOSE OPTIONS TO YOU AND CERTAINLY MAYBE BRING THEM, UH, BEFORE KIND OF LIKE A FINAL REPORT OF THE COMMITTEE.
BUT I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK, UH, TO OUR CITY ATTORNEYS WILL HELP ME DO A LITTLE HOMEWORK.
UH, BUT I DO KNOW THERE ARE BOTH TENANT RIGHTS AND LANDLORD RIGHTS AT THE STATE LEVEL THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T, WE DON'T CROSS THAT.
AND IF IT, IF I'M ASKING YOU TO CROSS THEM
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PEOPLE HAVE AN OPTION TO STAY IN SOME PLACE.IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THAT WON'T BE DISRUPTIVE, NOT TO SAY THAT THAT'S ENTIRELY FAIR TO THE TENANTS, BUT EVERYONE DESERVES HOT WATER.
SO I DIDN'T WANNA END ON THAT POINT, BUT I'LL COME BACK LATER.
UM, COUNCILWOMAN VIRE, THANK YOU.
UH, AND THANK YOU ALL, ALL YOU STAKEHOLDERS THAT WERE HERE AND ALL YOUR EFFORTS ON THIS.
SO, UM, IN, AND WE ALL HAVE OUR BAD ACTORS, UM, AND I THINK I'M GLAD THEY GOT TO THE TWO POINTS, UM, OF THE CONSENSUS OF DEFINITION BASED ON CITATIONS ONLY, UH, FIVE OR MORE CITATIONS WITHIN SIX MONTHS.
UH, THE, I THINK ONCE WE START, ONCE WE PUT THIS PROGRAM INTO PLACE, WE ARE GOING TO IDENTIFY ABSENTEE LANDLORDS AND PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANIES THAT ARE NOT ENGAGED WITH THEIR RESIDENTS.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO FIND.
UM, AND THEN I, I'M, I'M HOPING THAT THEY CAN MAKE CHANGES FROM THERE.
BUT WHILE I WANT YOU TO TAKE YOUR TIME TO DO THIS, I DO NOT WANT US TO SPEND ANOTHER, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA DRAW THIS OUT.
AND I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING, THE TOP ISSUES THAT I HEARD FROM THE RESIDENTS, THE TOP ISSUES FOR ME IN MY DISTRICT ARE, IS THE STRUCTURAL DAMAGE, THE WALLS, THE ROOFS, THE CEILINGS, UH, AND SOME OF THAT WE CAN SEE FROM THE OUTSIDE.
THE OTHER IS THE INTERIOR ISSUES THAT I THINK A LOT OF THE, THOSE SPEAKING IS THE MECHANICAL, PLUMBING AND ELECTRICAL ISSUES.
THAT'S THE HVAC THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT, THE WATER HEATERS, THE LEAKS OR BREAKS.
WE CAN SEE THAT WHEN, WHEN WE'RE OUTDOORS YOU, I MEAN, YOU CAN SEE THAT AND THE WIRES, UM, OR ELECTRICAL HAZARDS.
THE OTHER THIRD ONE FOR ME, UH, IN THOSE INTERIOR AFTER THAT IS THE INFESTATIONS OF ROACHES, RODENTS.
AND, UM, I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE, WHERE WE START, WHERE WE KIND OF WANT TO MAKE THOSE THE PRIORITY.
BECAUSE WHEN I THINK ABOUT HEALTH AND SAFETY VIOLATIONS, THOSE ARE THE TOP THREE I THINK ABOUT THAT IS GOING TO IMPACT THE RESIDENTS, AND THEY ARE PAYING, AND THEY DO HAVE A, AN EXPECTATION.
SO I WANT, I DON'T WANNA LOSE FOCUS FROM THAT.
AND I KNOW THAT THERE, AND CONVERSATION WAS MENTIONED ON KIND OF THAT EXTERIOR.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD FOCUS ON THE OVERGROUND GRASS AND VEGETATION, THE OVERFLOWING DUMPSTER, THE TREE BRANCHES AND THE JUNK VEHICLES.
I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD BE THE FOCUS, BECAUSE THAT'S CITYWIDE.
I MEAN, I HAVE RESIDENTS THAT ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT JUNK VEHICLES IN FRONT OF, UM, IN FRONT OF HOMES.
SO I THINK WE MAY TAKE THOSE AND DO SOMETHING SEPARATE IF THOSE ISSUES COME UP.
THE OTHER IS THE OVER OVERGROWN GRASS AND VEGETATION.
THAT'S MY COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES TOO.
OVERFLOWING DUMPSTERS VISIT MY FAMILY DOLLAR, THAT'S A PROBLEM THERE.
AND THE TREE BRANCHES, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT, UM, UH, MAYBE DOING MORE PROMOTION SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST, IT DOESN'T JUST LOOK LIKE THESE ACTORS ARE BAD ACTORS, BUT THAT IT, IT IS A CITYWIDE ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS FULLY.
SO I, I REALLY WANNA FOCUS ON THOSE, THOSE THREE ISSUES THAT I MENTIONED THAT WE, WE NEED TO GET IN THERE.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE OUR, WE NEED OUR CODE OFFICERS, BECAUSE A, AN ELECTRICAL ISSUE CAN LEAD TO A FIRE.
UM, THE, THE ROOF CAN LEAD TO THE MOLD DAMAGE AND THE RODENT INFESTATION THAT CAN LEAD TO ALL OTHER THINGS.
THE OTHER ASPECT I THINK WE NEED TO TALK TO LEGAL ABOUT IS THAT SOME OF THESE LANDLORDS OR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANIES ARE PUTTING OUT A MESSAGE THAT IF YOU COMPLAIN, YOU'RE OUT.
AND HOW DO WE LET PEOPLE KNOW THEIR RIGHTS WITHOUT PUTTING A TARGET ON THEM? AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO LOOK AT GROUPS AND SAY, HOW, HOW DO WE DO THIS? THAT'S WHY I'M APPRECIATIVE OF THE PROACTIVE, BECAUSE I BELIEVE ME, ONCE WE GET IT SETTLED, I WILL HAVE A LIST OF, OF APARTMENTS IN THE DISTRICT FOR YOU GUYS TO CHECK OUT.
BUT I KNOW THAT, THAT WE DO HAVE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE THAT THERE IS THIS SENTIMENT THAT IF YOU COMPLAIN, YOU ARE OUT.
AND, AND HOW DO WE MAKE IT SAFE FOR PEOPLE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE DON'T SEE, WHICH IS THOSE, UM, INFESTATIONS MAYBE THE PLUMBING ISSUES, UM, AND THING AND THINGS LIKE THAT SO THAT WE, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S AN ACTUAL RESIDENT AND PERSON BEHIND THAT COMPLAINT.
I'M GONNA JUMP ON WHAT YOU JUST
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SAID, PHYLLIS, UH, ABOUT, UM, MANAGEMENT COMPANIES, AND REALLY, IT'S, IT'S OWNERS WHO DICTATE PROBABLY TO THE MANAGEMENT COMPANIES WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE, BUT MAYBE WE OUGHT TO BE ALSO EVALUATING THE MANAGEMENT COMPANIES AND GIVING THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ON A GOOD LIST OR MAYBE ON A BAD LIST, UH, SO THAT PROPERTY OWNERS UNDERSTAND AND MANAGEMENT COMPANIES UNDERSTAND THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTS, UH, IN ANY BUILDING THAT THEY'RE MANAGING.UH, AND AS A PROPERTY OWNER, THE SAME THING.
BUT IF, IF I WERE EVALUATING THIS, UH, ON MY OWN, I WOULD WANNA KNOW WHAT IS THE HISTORY THAT YOU HAVE? AND I KNOW YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT 18 MONTHS OF HISTORY.
YOU KNOW, HOW MANY, UH, REPEAT OFFENDERS ARE THERE? HOW MANY TIMES HAVE THEY BEEN REPEAT OFFENDERS? UH, YOU KNOW, I, I WAS THINKING IF I OWNED 30, UH, OR 300 APARTMENT UNITS, AND I WAS ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE 90% OF THOSE 270 A YEAR THAT NEVER HAD A COMPLAINT, THAT EVERYBODY SEEMED TO BE HAPPY, BUT I HAD 30 THAT WERE HAVING COMPLAINTS, AND THAT, UH, MAYBE CODE COMPLIANCE WAS WERE GIVING ME NOTICES ABOUT.
BUT IF I WAS ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND RESOLVE 90% OF THOSE NOTICES WITHIN 10 DAYS, I END UP WITH THREE, UH, CITATIONS.
TO ME, THAT REPRESENTS A PRETTY GOOD PLACE TO LIVE.
YEAH, 90% OF THE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS. AND THE 30, UH, THE 10% OF THE PEOPLE DO THEY GET, THEY GET THOSE PROBLEMS SOLVED IN 10 DAYS.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, I AM UNDERSTANDING THE HISTORY AND IDENTIFYING THOSE WHO HAVE NOT DONE A GOOD JOB OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS TO ME, WOULD HELP ME GUIDE WHAT I WOULD WANNA SET AS A STANDARD FOR HOW MANY CITATIONS DO THEY GET.
IF YOU'VE GOT A, A SMALL NUMBER OF UNITS, LET'S SAY YOU'VE GOT A, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH 20 OR 30 UNITS, AGAIN, STILL, IF YOU'RE MAINTAINING 90% OR BETTER WITHOUT A LOT OF, UH, PROBLEMS OR COMPLAINTS, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CONSIDERATIONS I WOULD LOOK AT.
AND THOSE WOULD SOME OF THE CONSIDERATIONS I WANNA SEE COMING FORWARD FROM THE, THE GROUP WHEN IT MAKES A, A RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT THE PARAMETERS ARE FOR NOT ENDING UP ON THIS BAD ACTOR'S LIST.
UH, YOU KNOW, I I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE PRACTICALITY OF WHAT WE CAN COUNT ON A PROPERTY OWNER OR A MANAGER TO GET DONE, AND THE SIZE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH.
AND I GUESS THOSE ARE THE THINGS THEY'RE LOOKING AT, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT REALLY IDENTIFIED A LITTLE MORE CLEARLY.
INSTEAD OF JUST, THESE ARE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHY THESE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
MAYBE THESE ARE THE TIERS THAT WE'D INCORPORATE LIKE A 300 UNIT AS OPPOSED TO SOMEBODY WHO OWNS A FOURPLEX.
UH, AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE THINGS I THINK WOULD HELP US AS A COUNCIL RECOGNIZE WHERE WE NEED TO BE TO HELP PEOPLE OUT.
NO ONE WANTS TO HAVE A PROBLEM IN THEIR HOME, BUT I CAN TELL YOU, I'VE LIVED IN MY HOME FOR 25 YEARS, AND I'VE HAD WATER PROBLEMS, AND I'VE HAD PLUMBING PROBLEMS, AND I'VE HAD HEATING PROBLEMS AND AIR CONDITIONING PROBLEMS. I'VE, I'VE HAD THOSE IN MY OWN HOME.
I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET 'EM ALL DONE IN THREE DAYS A LOT OF TIMES OR A WEEK SOMETIMES.
OR SOMEBODY COMES OUT AND THEY DO A BAD JOB AND I HAVE TO GET SOMEBODY ELSE TO COME OUT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S JUST PART OF WHERE WE LIVE AND, AND WHAT HAPPENS IN OUR HOMES.
OF COURSE, I HAVE MY OWN PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THAT.
A TENANT DOESN'T HAVE THE PERSONAL ABILITY TO DO THAT.
THEY'RE COUNTING ON THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE PROPERTY MANAGER TO DO THAT.
BUT STILL, THERE ARE THOSE CHALLENGES FOR EVERYBODY ON CERTAIN TYPES OF THINGS.
BUT I THINK ALL OF US RECOGNIZE WHAT ARE CRITICAL IN SAFETY IN OUR HOMES AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE, THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO BE AT THE TOP OF THE LIST.
WE'LL GO BACK TO COUNCILMAN SANDA.
IN TERMS OF THE HEALTH AND SAFETY, UM, ISSUES SHOULD BE AT THE TOP PRIORITY, UH, IN, IN TERMS OF TIERING, UH, ISSUES THAT ARE MORE IMPORTANT.
I, I ALSO AGREE WITH THAT, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT NO AC THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NOT HAVING AN AC WHEN IT'S IN THE SEVENTIES OR THE EIGHTIES, BUT WHEN WE HAVE HIGH HEAT DAYS, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY, ESPECIALLY IF WE'VE HAD A LONG-TERM HEAT WAVE, AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED THIS PAST SUMMER AND WHY, WHY CONDITIONS WERE SO BAD THAT WE, UM, THAT WE TOOK, UH, WE OFFERED THE TENANTS ANOTHER PLACE TO, TO STAY.
UM, THE, UH, THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO ASK IS, WOULD THE ORDINANCE CONSIDER POSSIBLY A DIFFERENT ORDINANCE, CONSIDER, UM, DOING AN INSPECTION WHEN THERE IS A TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP? WHAT WE FOUND IN
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THE CASE WITH SEVEN OAKS IS THAT A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS WERE PREEXISTING, BUT BECAME WORSE WHEN A NEW COMPANY TOOK OVER.THEY WERE SIMPLY WEREN'T PREPARED TO, UM, TO HANDLE THE SCALE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WERE ALREADY THERE.
AND, AND THINGS JUST GOT WORSE.
UM, SO I UNDERSTAND SOMEWHERE IN COLORADO THEY DO THAT WHEN THERE'S A TRANSFER OF LARGE PROPERTIES.
THERE'S AN INSPECTION PROCESS BEFORE THAT THAT GETS HANDED OVER.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS, I'D LIKE TO SEE, UH, WHAT IS OUR COORDINATION WITH OPPORTUNITY HOME? UM, WHO, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE, RIGHT? FOR INSPECTING PROPERTIES THAT ACCEPT VOUCHERS, BECAUSE THAT'S ALSO THE, THE SITUATION WE HAD AT, AT SEVEN OAKS.
SO WE WOULD NOT HAVE EXPECTED TO HAVE THAT MANY VIOLATIONS IN A PLACE THAT TOOK VOUCHERS BECAUSE THE, THE, THE STANDARDS IS SUPPOSED TO BE, YOU KNOW, HIGHER.
AND THEN, UM, MY LAST QUESTION IS, WOULD THE ORDINANCE APPLY TO EXTENDED STAY HOTELS? BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE IN, IN DISTRICT SEVEN WHERE PEOPLE STAY FOR, FOR A LONG TIME.
UM, ANYWAY, THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.
SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL TRY TO HIT A COUPLE OF THEM.
UM, SO THE TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AS AN OPTION.
UM, CERTAINLY THAT WOULD PROBABLY ADJUST THE COST, UH, OF THE PROGRAM, RIGHT? BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING YOU MEAN EVEN IF THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CITATIONS ON THE BOOKS, YOU'D WANT TO, IF THE TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP, RIGHT? SO, UH, YOU SAID THERE WAS A COLORADO ORDINANCE, WE'LL DO SOME RESEARCH AND SEE, MAYBE BRING THAT BACK AS WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE, UH, AND WHAT THAT OPTION WOULD COST.
UM, OPPORTUNITY HOME, UH, HAS BEEN INVITED, I THINK ATTENDED SOME OF THE MEETINGS.
SO YES, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A, A, A PARTNERSHIP THERE BECAUSE MANY OF, UH, THE APARTMENTS IN TOWN, UH, WORK WITH OPPORTUNITY HOMES.
SO, UH, I THINK THEY'RE ON BOARD IN TERMS OF THE IDEA OF THIS.
WE WANT QUALITY LIVING CONDITIONS.
UM, SO, UH, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK WITH THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE.
BUT, UH, AND THEN EXTENDED STAY HOTELS.
EXTENDED STAY HOTELS, RIGHT NOW THAT'S A DIFFERENT, UH, PROPERTY CLASSIFICATION.
UH, SO IT WASN'T INTENDED TO BE COVERED IN THIS.
UH, IF YOU'D LIKE, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.
I WOULD, I WOULD PROBABLY RECOMMEND, BECAUSE I HEAR, YOU KNOW, FROM YOU ALL, WHICH IS THE SAME, I, AS I HEAR FROM, I THINK THE GROUP IS WE WANNA GET SOMETHING FOR THE MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENTS THAT THE BASE APARTMENTS DONE FAIRLY QUICKLY.
THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE LOOK AT LATER YEAH.
AND I'M, I'M JUST GONNA ASK THE THE GROUP ONE QUICK QUESTION.
'CAUSE YOU, SOME OF YOU HAVE MENTIONED TIERED, UH, YOU'VE MENTIONED TIERED IN TERMS OF THE TYPE OF VIOLATION.
SOME ARE, SOME ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN OTHERS, RIGHT? WHICH WAS SOME OF OUR CONVERSATION OF THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP, UH, SOME OF THE INTERIOR STUFF, THE HVAC STUFF, RIGHT? WHEN IT'S HOT VERSUS SOME OF THE OUTSIDE STUFF.
SO I, I'M TAKING THAT BACK TO THE GROUP.
I'LL ASK THEM, UH, TO, TO KIND OF CONSIDER THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
AND THEN YOU ALSO, I THINK COUNCILMAN AND MAYBE, UH, I FORGET WHO ELSE, LIKE THE SIZE OF THE COMMUNITY, A, A, A FOURPLEX OR, OR, OR, YOU KNOW, A 10 UNIT, 20 UNIT IS DIFFERENT THAN TWO OR 300 UNITS, UH, TO DICTATE THE NUMBER.
YOU DON'T, YOU'D LIKE US TO FURTHER LOOK AT THAT AS WELL.
THERE, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THAT ALREADY.
UH, BUT I'LL TAKE THAT BACK AND SEE, UM, SEE WHAT WE CAN WORK ON THERE.
UM, COUNCILMAN CASTILLO, THEN, COUNCILMAN KURT.
UM, WHAT I WANTED TO ADD, UH, COUNCILMAN, UH, WOMAN, WE HAVE, DON BROUGHT UP A REALLY GOOD POINT ABOUT, UM, RIGHT, IDENTIFYING THOSE VIOLATIONS THAT HAVE A HEALTH AND SAFETY IMPACT, RIGHT? SUCH AS NON-WORKING HVAC SYSTEMS. AND I WOULD ADD MAJOR SEWER AND WATERLINE BREAKS, AS WELL AS EXPOSED ELECTRICAL AND, UH, MAJOR STRUCTURAL ISSUES, RIGHT? BUT I WOULD ADD WITHIN THE FIVE VIOLATIONS, IF THESE FOUR, UM, HEALTH AND SAFETY VIOLATIONS CAN ACCUMULATE TO MORE VIOLATIONS, RIGHT? UH, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, IF A PROPERTY OWNER IS FOUND TO HAVE ISSUES WITH A NON-WORKING HVAC SYSTEM AND MAJOR, MAJOR SOAR, UH, ISSUES THAT IT ACCUMULATES TO MORE THAN JUST ONE VIOLATION, RIGHT? SO WITHIN THE TIERED SYSTEM THAT IF THERE'S MULTIPLE VIOLATIONS FOR EXPOSED ELECTRICAL OR MAJOR STRUCTURAL ISSUES THAT, UM, IT'S, IT'S A, A HEAVIER, UM, VIOLATION, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD HOPE TO SEE WITHIN THE TIERED, UM, SYSTEM.
UM, ONE THING THAT I THINK, UH, THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS OVERGROWN, NOT OVERGROWN, UH, THE, THE DUMPSTERS THAT ARE OVERFLOWING, RIGHT? I THINK THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED BECAUSE ONE THING THAT I'VE CONSTANTLY HEARD FROM, UH, DISTRICT FIVE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE NEAR APARTMENT COMPLEXES IS ISSUES WITH RODENTS COMING INTO THE HOUSES.
AND I IMAGINE GOING INTO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX AS WELL, RIGHT? AND THAT COULD ALSO, UH, WITH THE, THE FECES AND URINE OF THE RODENTS CAN CAUSE MOLD.
UM, SO I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD INCLUDE WITHIN THE, THE, THE VIOLATIONS.
UM, AND THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO CHIME IN TO ADD.
UH, JUST A COUPLE OF ASIDES MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW IF THE COMMITTEE HAS LOOKED AT.
WHAT ABOUT, UM, IF PEOPLE MOVE OUT BEFORE THEY BREAK THEIR LEASE, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY, WHAT, FOR WHATEVER REASON, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S INSURANCE
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THAT PROPERTY OWNERS CAN BUY THAT KIND OF PROTECT THEM AGAINST THE LOSSES FROM THINGS LIKE THAT.UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAS ANY ROLE TO PLAY IN SOME OF THIS BECAUSE WE HEARD, UH, ONE WOMAN TALK ABOUT HOW SHE WASN'T GIVEN HER LEASE AND SHE HAD TO MOVE OUT.
NOW THAT'S NOT THE SAME AS MAYBE AN EVICTION, OR NOT THE SAME AS JUST BREAKING YOUR LEASE, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE FORCED TO MOVE OUT 'CAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO STAY.
AND THE LANDLORD SAYS, WELL, NO, YOU'VE GOTTA PAY ME ANYWAY.
AND THEY TRACK 'EM DOWN AND IT GOES ON THEIR CREDIT AND AFFECTS THEM, AND IT MAKES IT HARDER FOR THEM TO LEASE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
SO I'M WONDERING IF THIS INSURANCE THAT I, I'VE HEARD A LOT OF COMPANIES MAY HAVE, SO THAT THEY RECUPERATE PART OF THAT, IF, IF THAT'S BEEN GIVEN ANY CONSIDERATION AS A WAY OF PROTECTING THE PEOPLE WHO DO NEED TO MOVE OUT, WHO MAY BREAK A LEASE.
BUT IF THE COMPANY CAN GET REIMBURSED FOR PART OF THAT THROUGH AN INSURANCE POLICY, THEN WHY WOULD, UH, IT BE, WHY WOULD THE PERSON WHO, UH, IS BEING CHASED TO MAKE THE PAYMENT AFTER THEY BREAK A LEASE AFTER SIX MONTHS, WHY WOULD THAT OCCUR? WHY WOULD THAT ADVERSELY AFFECT THEIR ABILITY TO MOVE INTO SOMEPLACE ELSE? SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAD BEEN DISCUSSED, BUT, UM, THAT WAS AN ISSUE THAT I WAS THINKING OF.
AND ANOTHER ONE IS, WHAT ABOUT ON DISLOCATION? UH, YOU KNOW, DID THIS COMMITTEE TALK ABOUT ANY KIND OF SUPPORT, UH, BASED ON DISLOCATION IN CASE OF A FIRE OR OTHER KIND OF EMERGENCY? OR BECAUSE THEY, THEY WANT TO RENOVATE, UH, OR BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY HAS TO MOVE, HAS TO LEAVE FOR SOME REASON.
IT COULD BE HEALTH OR OTHERWISE.
UM, AND I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WE OUGHT TO CHARGE EVERY APARTMENT UNIT IN THE CITY $1 A YEAR TO GO AHEAD AND PUT INTO A FUND THAT THE CITY CAN USE TO HELP SUPPORT THAT.
THERE'S ABOUT 400, 450,000 RENTAL UNITS IN THE CITY.
IF THEY PAID $1 FOR EVERY RENTAL UNIT EVERY YEAR, WE'D HAVE SOME MONEY TO MAKE, UH, TO HAVE AN ASSISTANCE PROGRAM FOR PEOPLE IN THAT SITUATION.
AND THAT'S NOT VERY MUCH TO ASK.
BUT ANYWAY, A FEW OTHER THINGS THAT CAME TO MY MIND.
I'LL JUST MENTION THE INSURANCE QUESTION YOU HAD, I DON'T THINK HAS BEEN DISCUSSED.
UM, WE DID AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THIS GROUP, BECAUSE WE KNEW WE HAD A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME, WE DID TRY TO FOCUS MOSTLY ON THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROPERTY, MAINTENANCE CODE, HEALTH AND SAFETY CONDITIONS, KNOWING THAT THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER ISSUES.
AND THAT'S WHY N H S D HAS BEEN AT EVERY MEETING WE'VE BEEN CONNECTING PEOPLE WITH, UH, NOT ONLY THE PEOPLE THAT SHOW UP, BUT WE HEAR ABOUT SOME OF THESE.
SO THEY'RE DOING THEIR JOB ON SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES, OTHER TENANT ISSUES THAT NEED HELP.
UH, BUT THIS, THIS COMMITTEE HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON THAT, BUT I WILL ASK THE DEPARTMENT ASSOCIATION IF THEY HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT.
IT MIGHT NOT BE PART OF WHAT THIS ORDINANCE REALLY IS INTENDED FOR, BUT IT'S ALL CONNECTED.
SO, UH, I'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO DO SOME RESEARCH FOR YOU.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO ADD, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT A GREAT DEAL OF ISSUES THAT ARISE BETWEEN LANDLORDS AND TENANTS, UH, ARE GOVERNED BY STATE LAW.
AND I KNOW WE SAY THIS ALL THE TIME IN CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO THE COUNCIL, UM, THAT WE, WE CANNOT GO SO FAR WHEN IT COMES TO CONFLICTING WITH WHAT THE STATE LAW DOES.
THE CITY HAS, UM, YOU KNOW, QUITE A LIMITED, UH, BIT OF AUTHORITY WHEN IT COMES TO REGULATING ISSUES THAT COME UP BETWEEN LANDLORDS AND TENANTS.
A LARGE PART OF THAT ALSO IS DUE TO THE FACT THAT LANDLORDS AND TENANTS ARRANGEMENTS ARE CONTRACTUAL.
THEY ARE GOVERNED BY THE LEASE AGREEMENT.
AND UNDER THE TEXAS STANDARD LEASES, THERE IS LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT ALLOWS FOR LANDLORDS TO CONTINUE TO PURSUE PAST DUE RENT DAMAGES, COST PER DAMAGES, AND THINGS LIKE THAT AGAINST THE TENANT, EVEN AFTER THEY'VE BEEN EVICTED OR OTHERWISE VIOLATED THE LEASE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE ALWAYS HAPPY TO LOOK AT WHAT THINGS THE CITY CAN DO FROM A REGULATORY STANDPOINT, UH, TO, TO ADDRESS THESE HOLES, BUT WE ALWAYS ALSO WANNA KEEP THE COUNCIL AWARE OF THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT TO ALWAYS WORK WITHIN THE CONFINES OF OUR AUTHORITY UNDER, YOU KNOW, THE STATE LAW.
YOU KNOW, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND I THINK THAT A LOT OF TIMES WE'VE BEEN ASKING, UH, LANDLORDS TO, UH, VOLUNTARILY ABIDE BY SUGGESTIONS THAT WE MAKE, LIKE TENANTS RIGHTS OR, OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT, BUT I WONDER, DO THE MANAGEMENT COMPANIES THAT RUN THESE KNOW THE STATE LAWS? DO THEY KNOW OUR CODE? I THINK THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM.
THEY JUST WANT THE MONEY, THEY'RE GONNA GET OUT OF IT.
SO HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THAT DIFFERENCE OF OPINION ON HOW AN OPERATION SHOULD BE RUN? SO ANYWAY, THAT'S, THANK YOU COUNCILMAN.
AND YOU, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING THAT, THAT I WAS THINKING THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD REQUIRE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANIES TO REGISTER, RIGHT? AND SO, UM, AND SPECIFICALLY SO THAT, UM, BECAUSE LANDLORDS HIRE THESE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANIES, BUT THEN LIKE, WHO COMMUNICATES TO THEM, RIGHT? AND SO I, I WOULDN'T WANNA LEAVE IT IN THE LANDLORD'S HANDS FOR THEM TO COMMUNICATE CHANGES
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TO ANY CITY ORDINANCES, ET CETERA.AND SO IT, IT'S MORE FOR NOTIFICATION RIGHT? DIRECTLY FROM THE CITY TO THOSE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANIES.
AND SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE CAN CONSIDER, UM, GOING FORWARD OR, UH, AND, AND I AGREE THAT WE HAVE TO JUST KIND OF LOOK A LITTLE BIT BEYOND, UM, COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL I THINK BROUGHT UP THE, UM, EXTENDED STAY PLACES, RIGHT? AND SO I KNOW A LOT OF MY FAMILIES HAVE TO DO THAT.
AND SO THEY, IT, IT'S, THEY, THEY THINK IT'S MORE AFFORDABLE TO DO THAT.
AND SO MAYBE SOMETIMES IT'S A LAST RESORT.
AND SO WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THAT.
SO, BUT DON'T WORRY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ALL OF THIS BY END OF THE YEAR.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE COMMITTEE'S WILLING TO, TO LET YOU COME BACK THROUGH FEBRUARY.
SO I WAS GONNA ASK IF YOU COULD PLEASE BE NICE AND GIVE THEM THE WINTER BREAK OFF.
THEY'RE REALLY WORKING HARD, SO THEY'VE BEEN GREAT.
I DON'T THINK THIS NEEDS, UM, ACTION OTHER THAN, THAN COME BACK IN FEBRUARY FOR THE OKAY, WONDERFUL.
IF I DON'T SEE YOU ALL, UM, 'CAUSE THIS IS THE LAST ONE FOR THIS, FOR P C D C FOR THE YEAR.
SO THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR HARD WORK.