* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. UM, TIME IS 1:10 PM ON THE 13TH DAY OF DECEMBER, 2022. WE'LL CALL OUR CITY COUNCIL GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE MEETING TO ORDER. MADAM CLERK, COULD YOU READ THE ROLE COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA? HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER CAB HALBERDA. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER PALIS. COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE PRESENT. MAYOR NIERENBERG. HERE. MAYOR, WE HAVE A QUORUM. ALRIGHT, UH, WE HAVE [Approval of Minutes  ] A FEW ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA IN ADDITION TO, UH, OUR MINUTES. SO LET'S TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS THE MEETING MINUTES OF OCTOBER 19TH, 2022. ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THOSE. SECOND, THERE'S A MOTION, A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE OCTOBER 19 GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE MEETING. MINUTES. UH, ANY DISCUSSION? CLARIFICATIONS? OH, . ALRIGHT. HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. WE'LL GO NOW TO ITEM [Briefing and Possible Action on  ] NUMBER TWO. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS A BRIEFING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON CONSIDERATION OF SUNSETTING THE CITY BOND OVERSIGHT COMMISSION AND NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENTS ADVISORY BOARD RELATED TO THE 2017 BOND PROGRAM AND APPROVING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A NEW 11 MEMBER STREETS, BRIDGES AND SIDEWALKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE. UH, THIS IS TO TALK ABOUT, UH, C O C. UH, SINCE 2007, EVERY BOND PROGRAM, WE CREATE A UNIQUE C B O C FOR THAT PARTICULAR BOND PROGRAM. UH, IN 2017, WE DID THE SAME THING. UH, WE ALSO CREATED A NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENTS ADVISORY COMMITTEE SINCE FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE PUT MONEY IN 20 MILLION TOWARDS, TOWARDS HOUSING. SO ONCE AGAIN, THESE COMMITTEES WERE CREATED SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT BOND, UH, PACKAGE. SO THE PURPOSE OF C B O C IS, IS TO BE BRIEFED ON THE STATUS OF, UH, OF, OF THE BOND AND, AND OUR PROGRESS TOWARDS IMPLEMENTING THOSE PROJECTS. UH, WE TYPICALLY MEET WITH THEM ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, AND THEN ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, UH, THEY COME BACK AND THEY PROVIDE A REPORT TO CITY COUNCIL. UH, DURING A B SESSION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENTS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, THEY MEET ON AN AD HOC BASIS ONCE AGAIN TO JUST TRACK THE PROGRESS OF, OF THAT BOND PROGRAM. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION, UH, IS THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF DUPLICATION. WE'VE, WE'VE FOUND, UH, WITH, WITH THE BOND PROCESS. YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF STANDING COMMITTEES THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THAT PACKAGE. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. UH, WE'RE GONNA RECOMMEND WE USE SOME STANDING, UH, COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS, UH, FOR PART OF THIS. AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING WE CREATE TWO NEW, UH, COMMITTEES. THE FIRST ONE IS THE STREETS, BRIDGES AND SIDEWALKS COMMITTEE. OF COURSE, THEY WOULD REVIEW, UH, PROPOSITION ONE, THE STREETS, BRIDGES, AND, AND SIDEWALK PROGRAM. UH, THIS IS BRAND NEW. UH, SO WE'D LIKE TO WORK WITH THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, UH, IN DECEMBER BEFORE BRINGING THIS TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. UH, PROPOSITION B IS, UH, THERE'S A C C R THAT WAS, UH, SUBMITTED BY COUNCIL MOS, SANDOVAL AND CASTILE, UH, TO CREATE THIS STORMWATER MANAGEMENT ADVISORY, UH, BOARD. UH, THAT ONE'S BEEN TO GOVERNANCE. IT'S BEEN TO P C D C, SO, AND WE'RE PROPOSING TO TAKE THAT TO COUNCIL IN, IN FEBRUARY. SO THAT WOULD HAVE PROVISION OVER, UH, PROPOSITION B. FOR PARKS, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A PARKS BOARD, SO WE RECOMMEND WE WORK WITH THE PARKS BOARD AND ADD THIS TO THEIR SCOPE OF WORK. UH, WE WOULD BRIEF THEM ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, UH, LIBRARIES WHERE WE WOULD RECOMMEND WE DO THE SAME WITH THE LIBRARY BOARD. UH, FOR CULTURAL FACILITIES, WE WOULD WORK WITH H D R C, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THINGS LIKE THE MAGIC THEATER OR THE WORLD HERITAGE FACILITIES. WE WOULD BRIEF THEM ON IT. AND PUBLIC SAFETY, WE WOULD RECOMMEND WE WORK WITH THE, WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, THE CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, BRIEF THEM ON THE STATUS OF THOSE TWO FIRE STATIONS AND, AND THE POLICE SUBSTATION. AND FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE RECOMMEND WE WORK WITH THE, UH, SAN ANTONIO HOUSING COMMISSION. SO, JUST, JUST A REMINDER, UH, THIS, UH, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. THIS IS ONE OF THE NEW COMMITTEES. WE DID HAVE A C C R. IT'S BEEN VETTED BY THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE. IT'S GONE THROUGH P C D C, AND WE'LL BE BRINGING IT TO COUNCIL, UH, IN, IN FEBRUARY. UH, AND JUST A REMINDER, THIS CAME FROM FROM THE BOND PROCESS. OUR, OUR DRAINAGE COMMITTEE ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED THE FORMATION OF THIS COMMITTEE TO REVIEW DRAINAGE PROJECTS, PRIORITIZE THEM TO WORK ON A DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN. UH, THIS WOULD ADD TRANSPARENCY AND GIVE CITIZENS AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME VISIT WITH US THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, UH, AND HELP US PRIORITIZE THOSE BOND PROJECTS FOR FUTURE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES IN THE NEXT BOND. AND THIS IS THE BRAND NEW COMMITTEE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE STREETS, UH, BRIDGES AND SIDEWALKS COMMITTEE. IT'S KIND OF THE SAME THOUGHT AS THAT, UH, DRAINAGE COMMITTEE THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. UH, THAT WOULD MEET, UH, ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. WE WOULD REVIEW STREET PROJECTS AND AS FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES COME UP, THIS, THAT WOULD HELP US PRIORITIZE THOSE. THIS WOULD ADD TRANSPARENCY SO CITIZENS WOULD SEE HOW WE'RE PRIORITIZING THESE PROJECTS AND ALSO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND TELL [00:05:01] US WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM. SO THIS COMMITTEE WE'RE PROPOSING TO BE AN 11 MEMBER COMMITTEE. THE MAYOR PROPOSED WOULD, UH, APPOINT THE CHAIR AND EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT WOULD APPOINT, UH, THEIR MEMBERS. THEY WOULD MEET ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. SO THE NEXT STEPS, UH, WE'RE RECOMMENDING WE WOULD GO TO FULL COUNCIL, UH, TO SUNSET, UH, THESE TWO COMMISSIONS. THE, THE, THE C O C AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENTS COMMITTEE. UH, AND CREATE THE STREETS, BRIDGES AND SIDEWALK COMMITTEE, AS WELL AS THE STORMWATER COMMITTEE. AND THEN WE WOULD APPOINT THE MEMBERS. WE'D ASK FOR COUNCIL TO APPOINT THE MEMBERS IN THE SPRING. SO WITH THAT, UH, WE HAVE A WHOLE GROUP OF PEOPLE HERE PREPARED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. ROD. TO BEGIN OUR DISCUSSION, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER ONE, STAFF RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE'LL START OUR, UH, COUNCIL DISCUSSION NOW. COUNCIL MEMBER, PLEASE. THANKS. THE FIRST C C R I EVER WAS THE CREATION OF THE 2017 BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. UM, AND THAT IT'S YOU KILLING MY BABY. UH, IT MAKES IT LESS PAINFUL, BUT, UH, THE , I, UM, I, GOOD JOB. THANKS. THANKS FOR DOING THIS. I, I DO REMEMBER THOUGH, WHEN WE WERE DOING THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE, UH, OR AT LEAST CONSIDERING THAT, THAT THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION AS TO THE, UM, DIFFERENT SECTORS REPRESENTING, UH, OR, OR DIFFERENT VOICES THAT WERE GONNA BE, UH, ON THAT COMMITTEE. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CONTINUES TO BE THE SAME, OR IS IT UP TO THE COUNCIL PERSON? MAYBE WATERSHEDS. RIGHT, , THE IDEA WAS MAYBE WE SHOULD NOT HAVE ENGINEER TO BE ON THOSE COMMITTEE POSSIBLE TO CREATE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. BUT WE REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE INDIVIDUAL HAS A KNOWLEDGE OF THOSE WORK. RAZZI, I THINK WHAT THE COUNCILMAN MAY BE TALKING ABOUT IS, UM, WHEN YOU WENT TO THE COMMITTEE, THERE ARE OTHER ENTITIES THAT'LL BE REPRESENTED ON THE COMMITTEE, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH. WHAT ARE, WHO ARE THOSE OTHER ENTITIES? IT WAS BAY COUNTY, SAN ANTONIO COURSE OURSELF. OKAY. SO THERE'S, THERE ARE GONNA BE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS ON THE COMMITTEE BY WATERSHED? YES, SIR. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WATERSHED. OKAY. THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION. THANKS, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ELA. ANYONE ELSE ON THIS ONE? COUNCIL MEMBER COBE. HDA. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, ONE OF THE COMMENTS I'VE HEARD OF FROM CONSTITUENTS IS AFTER THE DESIGN PHASE OF BOND PROJECTS, THEY DON'T HEAR MUCH ABOUT THE PROGRESS OF THE PROJECT. UM, UNLESS IT COMES FROM, YOU KNOW, THE MASKING THE COUNCIL OFFICE. I'M CURIOUS IF THE COMMITTEE CAN HELP INCREASE COMMUNICATION WITH CONSTITUENTS. IS THERE A MECHANISM THERE FOR THAT? THAT'S A THOUGHT WE WOULD MEET ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. UH, PROVIDE UPDATES. AND, AND ALSO IT'S TWO-WAY CONVERSATION. WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THEM, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE TELLING 'EM WHAT WE'RE DOING, UH, OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO TELL US, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO MAKE SOME TWEAKS, IMPROVEMENTS, AND ALSO GIVE US THOSE PROJECTS THAT, THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THEM FOR THE NEXT TIME AROUND. OKAY. THANK YOU, ROD. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BERDA. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF, UH, FOR THE WORK ON, ON THIS. I THINK IT'S, UM, GOOD NEWS ON A LOT OF FRONTS, EFFICIENCY OF GOVERNMENT, BUT ALSO, UH, GIVING US SOME ENTITIES THAT WILL BE WORKING, UM, SORT OF BEYOND THE BOND CYCLE LIFE, UH, BEYOND THE BOND PROGRAM LIFE CYCLE, TO GIVE US GUIDANCE ON BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE COMMUNITY. I THINK THAT CONVERSATION'S BEEN LACKING. AND SO HAVE, UH, SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS DEDICATED TO THE TASK, KEEP THEIR EYES SORT OF HIGH LEVEL. MY HOPE IS THAT THAT WOULD ALSO PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE TO THE COUNCIL OFFICES ON NAMP PRIORITIES FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT. 'CAUSE YOU'LL BE HAVING, UH, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSIONS CONSTANTLY WITH THE COMMUNITY, UH, YOUR REPRESENTATIVES THAT YOU APPOINT TO THAT BOARD, UH, TO PROVIDE SOME SENSE OF PRIORITY WITHIN THE DISTRICTS, AND THEN, OF COURSE, CITYWIDE. SO, I, I THINK THIS IS GREAT. UH, GREAT STEP FORWARD. AND I ALSO WANNA THANK OUR CITY CLERK, UH, FOR GREAT INPUT IN THE PROCESS AS WELL. SO FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF IT AND LOOK FORWARD TO COMING TO THE NEXT STEP IS A SESSION. IS THAT RIGHT? YES. YES, SIR. IN FEBRUARY. OKAY, GREAT. SO, UH, WITH THAT, THERE IS A MOTION TO SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND MOVING OF THESE ITEMS TO THE COUNCIL. A SESSION AT FIRST OPPORTUNITY, UH, HEARING. NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. GO TO ITEM THREE. ITEM THREE IS A COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST BY COUNCIL MEMBER MANNY PALAI, DISTRICT EIGHT, REGARDING OVERNIGHT PARKING REGULATIONS FOR OVERSIZED COMMERCIAL VEHICLES. ALL THIS WAS A C C R FILED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PELA. UM, YOU WANNA DO THE PRESENTATION FIRST AND THEN I'LL, I'LL TURN IT TO COUNCIL MEMBER PALAI. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE. SO, WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS A C C R ABOUT OVERNIGHT PARKING OF [00:10:01] OVERSIZED COMMERCIAL VEHICLES. THE C C R WAS FILED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PELA, AND THE REQUEST IS TO REVISE OUR CITY CODE TO REGULATE OVERNIGHT PARKING OF OVERSIZED COMMERCIAL VEHICLES, AND ALSO TO REVIEW AND EVALUATE WHAT OTHER MAJOR TEXAS CITIES ARE DOING ABOUT THIS TOPIC. SO, JUST TO PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME CONTEXT, THE, THE LAWS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO TODAY, WE HAVE STATE LAW THAT IS, UH, ENFORCED BY THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND WE ALSO HAVE A COUPLE OF SECTIONS WITHIN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT ARE ENFORCED BY, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND CENTER CITY. THIS LAWS COMBINE RESTRICT THE PARKING OF OVERSIZED VEHICLES IN RESIDENTIAL, UH, AREAS, BUT THERE'S NO MENTION ABOUT OTHER ZONE AREAS, INCLUDING COMMERCIAL. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE STATE LAW AND THE, AND THE U THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE IS THAT THE STATE LAW IS FOCUSED ON THE DRIVER OF THE OVERSIZED VEHICLE, AND THE RESTRICTIONS IS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 10:00 PM AND 6:00 AM. THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, UH, FOCUSES ON THE VEHICLE. SO THE, THE POLICE OFFICER, CODE OFFICER, UH, CAN PROVIDE A PARKING TICKET TO, UH, THE VEHICLE, NOT NECESSARILY THE, THE OWNER OF THAT VEHICLE. AND, UH, AND THERE IS, THAT'S APPLICABLE TO ALL HOURS DURING THE DAY. SO THAT IS THE, THE, THE LOSS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE IN OUR BOOKS TODAY. JUST TO PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME CONTEXT ON THE NUMBER OF CITATIONS THAT ARE ISSUED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN OUR, UH, CENTER CITY OFFICE OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS, WE HAVE ISSUE ON AVERAGE ABOUT 500, UH, CITATIONS PER YEAR. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS ALS, THIS IS ONLY ON RESIDENTIAL, UH, AREAS. SO WE DID A QUICK REVIEW OF WHAT OTHER TEXAS CITIES ARE DOING, UH, IN RESPECT TO, UH, COMMERCIAL VEHICLES AND JUST OVERALL PARKING RESTRICTIONS OF OVERSIZED VEHICLES. AND YOU'LL SEE FROM THIS TABLE THAT SAN ANTONIO AND AUSTIN HAVE SIMILAR, SIMILAR LAWS. THE RESTRICTIONS, UH, OF PARKING AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS. THERE'S NO CURRENT RESTRICTIONS WITHIN COMMERCIAL AREAS. THE CITY OF HOUSTON, ON THE OTHER HAND, THEY RESTRICT PARKING ON ALL STREETS BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 2:00 AM AND 6:00 AM. THE CITY OF FORT WORTH HAS RESTRICTIONS ON RESIDENTIAL AREAS, AND THEY RESTRICT OTHER, UM, AREAS, NON-RESIDENTIAL AREAS FOR MORE THAN TWO HOURS. AND THEN DALLAS, UH, RESTRICTS PARKING ON ANY PUBLIC STREET, UH, EXCEPT FOR LOADING AND UNLOADING, UM, FOR GOODS AND, AND OTHER ITEMS. SO WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING, THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, WILL BE LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVES TO, UH, PROVIDE SOME RESTRICTIONS, UH, ON, UH, COMMERCIAL ZONES WITHIN, UH, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AND BRING THOSE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION. AND MAYOR, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. AND, UH, THE POLICE CHIEF IS HERE. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ENFORCEMENT. COUNCIL MEMBER APPLAUSE. THANKS. UH, MARIA, I THINK, CAPTURED THE INTENT OF THE C C R AND I. UM, I MOVED TO, UM, ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT WE SEND THIS TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. AND, UH, I DO WANT TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO A COUPLE OF THINGS. I, I DON'T THINK THIS IS JUST LIMITED TO DISTRICT EIGHT. UH, WE SEE THIS COME UP, AND I'VE HEARD FROM MULTIPLE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT THIS IS A PROBLEM, UM, THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT IS, UH, GETTING WORSE. UH, WE'RE SEEING THESE VEHICLES PARKED, UM, NOT JUST IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS, UH, WHICH REALLY BOTHERS CONSTITUENTS, UM, BECAUSE THEY, THEY HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME PARKING IN THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS SOMETIMES. BUT, UH, IT'S ALSO A SAFETY PROBLEM. IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET AN AMBULANCE OR A FIRETRUCK DOWN THE STREET WHEN YOU'VE GOT 18 WHEELERS PARKED IN A, YOU KNOW, ALONG A NARROW ROAD. BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE NOW SEEN ENTIRE STREETS BEING TAKEN OVER BECKWITH, UH, AND DISTRICT EIGHT IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE WHERE IT WAS, UH, NOT JUST AN EYESORE, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, A REAL SAFETY ISSUE. UM, AND SOMETIMES THEY'LL LEAVE THEIR CARS THERE, NOT JUST OVERNIGHT, BUT FOR MANY DAYS ON END. AND SO, UH, MAYOR, WE INVITED A GENTLEMAN NAMED ABE ABRAHAM, WHO'S A KIND OF A, AN ICON IN DISTRICT EIGHT, 'CAUSE HE IS, HE'S SERVED ON MULTIPLE COMMITTEES. BUT ABE, I'M GONNA USE THE REST OF MY TIME TO INVITE YOU UP HERE. AND, UM, SO YOU CAN KIND OF DESCRIBE THE PROBLEM FOR US AS, AS IT RELATES TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOUR AREA. UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO REPRESENT, UH, OUR AREA OF DISTRICT EIGHT. UM, I'M A RESIDENT OF, UH, OF OAKLAND HEIGHTS, UH, H O A, WHICH IS, [00:15:01] UM, ON BOTH SIDES OF VANCE JACKSON, UH, JUST NORTH OF DAVALA. AND, UH, BECK WITH BOULEVARD IS JUST NORTH OF US, AND THERE IS A VACANT LOT THERE THAT WAS PURCHASED, UH, OVER FIVE YEARS AGO BY, UH, SINCLAIR BROADCASTING. UH, THEY HAVEN'T REALLY DONE ANYTHING WITH THAT, UH, BUT, UM, WE'VE TRIED TO GET THEM TO NO PARKING SIGNS OUT THERE, UH, TO, TO NO AVAIL. UH, THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT THE SEMIS ARE PARKING OUT THERE. THEY'RE, UH, THEY'RE CRATERING, THE, THE WHOLE STREET, UH, BIG DIVOTS IN IT. UM, THEY ALSO, UH, FREQUENTLY, UH, BLOCK THE FIRE HYDRANT, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT TO A FIRE STATION , WHICH IS JUST A REAL SLAP IN THE FACE, UH, AS A NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, CITIZEN ON PATROL, VOLUNTEER. UM, I OFTEN GO OVER THERE WHEN I FIND THAT, UH, I CALL IN OUR, OUR GREAT, UH, S A S A P D PEOPLE. AND, UH, IF THEY CAN FIND THE TIME TO GET OVER THERE AND, AND WRITE A TICKET, THAT'S FANTASTIC. BUT, UH, WE NEED SOMETHING PERMANENT ON THE BOOKS. UH, THEY'RE RUIN IN OUR STREETS. IT'S ALSO A SAFETY ISSUE BECAUSE THE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS TO TURN RIGHT TO GO OVER TO VANCE JACKSON TO GET OUT OF THERE. AND IF THERE'S SEMIS THERE, IT'S GONNA DELAY THE RESPONSE. SO, SO THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME A FEW MINUTES, AND THANK YOU FOR PUSHING THIS FORWARD. THANK YOU. UM, AND THEN MAYOR, I, I WILL SAY THAT THE SOLUTION TO THIS HAS TO INCLUDE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHERE TRUCKERS CAN PARK THEIR CARS. THIS CAN'T JUST BE A, A PROHIBITION. UM, THESE ARE ALSO SAN ANTONIANS WHO ARE TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING. AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN HOBERT. I HOPE THAT THAT'S PART OF THE CONVERSATION. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER APPLIES. THERE IS A MOTION TO SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION. COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. THANK YOU. I WANT TO CONCUR WITH THIS. UH, WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS ON ONE PARTICULAR STREET PROTON, AND I'VE, I'VE HEARD FROM THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED AND WORKED IN THAT LOCATION, BUT I ALSO, UM, EMPATHIZE WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN JUST MENTIONED ABOUT WHERE CAN, UH, THESE PEOPLE PARK. UH, I'VE NOTICED THAT WHEN THERE ARE, UM, HOTELS, MOTELS ALONG INTERSTATES WHERE THE TRUCKERS ARE TRAVELING LONG DISTANCES AND THEY WANT TO STOP FOR A NIGHT, UH, A LOT OF TIMES THEY ARE PARKING ON THE PUBLIC STREETS AND CREATING THIS PROBLEM, BUT WHERE WOULD THEY PARK? SO, I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. SO, BUT OTHERWISE, I DO AGREE. THEY, THEY DO CREATE TOO MUCH OF A PROBLEM. WE NEED TO DEAL WITH IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. COUNCIL MEMBER CABERNET. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND THANK YOU TO COUNCILMAN ELIAS FOR BRINGING THIS ISSUE UP. IT'S OUR FIRST, UH, PRIORITY TO TAKE CARE OF OUR, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. UH, THIS HAS COME UP AT M P O. UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE STATE HAS NEWER REG LEGISLATION THAT A TRUCKER HAS TO, UM, STOP WHERE THEY ARE, UH, IF THEY REACH A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF, OF HOURS. AND SO, UM, I KNOW, I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE BRINGING THAT UP IN THE NEXT LEGISLATION. SO HOPEFULLY THERE'S SOME, SOME GIVE THERE, BUT, UH, IT'S VERY TIMELY. UM, UH, I ONLY HAVE ONE QUESTION. UH, IT'S ABOUT THE, THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT ARE WHERE THEY, WHERE THE LOCATIONS WHERE THEY CAN'T PARK. HOW WERE THEY CHOSEN? IS IT THE HEAVIEST TRAFFIC OF BIG TRUCKS, OR? OH, YOUR QUESTION IS ON THE AREAS THAT ARE RESTRICTED. RESTRICTED, YES. YEAH. SO, UM, THE, THE, LET ME GO BACK. SO THE AREAS THAT ARE COVERED COUNCILWOMAN ARE, UM, STATE CODE COVERS, AREAS THAT ARE NEAR RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS, UM, OR IN THE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS. AND THE U D C COVERS RESTRICTING AREAS THAT ARE IN THE FRONT YARD OR IN THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY, UH, OR, UM, IN ANY LOT PARCEL OR STREET THAT IS USED FOR RESIDENTIAL. OKAY. SO IT'S PRETTY RESTRICTED IN TERMS OF, UH, RESIDENTIAL AND BOBBY AND CHIEF. I, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY AREAS WHERE THEY'RE ALLOWED TO PARK WITHIN RESIDENTIAL. UM, OKAY. I, I MISUNDERS I THINK I THOUGHT THAT THERE WERE, UM, THERE WERE CERTAIN AREAS THAT THE CITY CHOSE, BUT YOU'RE, IT'S EVERY PLACE THAT, THAT THE STATE THAT IS RESIDENTIAL. GOT IT. OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. HOWEVER, WHAT IS NOT INCLUDED IS ANY OTHER ZONES LIKE COMMERCIAL, FOR EXAMPLE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD EXPLORE. UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU, MARIA. THANK YOU, MAYOR. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL THERE'S A MOTION TO SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER THREE, STAFF RECOMMENDATION REFERRING TO PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE HEARING. NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. ITEM FOUR, ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS A COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ, DISTRICT TWO REGARDING ESTABLISHMENT OF AN OFFICE OF CRIME AND RECIDIVISM PREVENTION. ALRIGHT, SO CONSIDERATION [00:20:01] FILED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ. UH, MARIE, YOU WANNA DO THE PRESENTATION AND I'LL GIVE THE FLOOR TO COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ. SURE, MAYOR. SO THIS, UH, PRESENTATION ADDRESSES A, UH, CITY COUNCIL REQUEST FILED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MC RODRIGUEZ REQUESTING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF AN OFFICE OF CRIME AND RECIDIVISM PREVENTION. UM, THE GOAL OF THE OFFICE IS TO HAVE A MULTIDISCIPLINARY CRIMINOLOGICAL AND PUBLIC HEALTH APPROACH TO VIOLENCE AND CRIME PREVENTION. AND, UM, A SUBSEQUENT GOAL IS TO ENSURE THE SUSTAINED SAFETY OF OUR, UM, MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY IN SAN ANTONIO, SPECIFICALLY THOSE THAT ARE MOST IMPACTED BY CRIME AND RECIDIVISM. SO, AS A WAY OF BACKGROUND, UH, BACKGROUND, UH, THE CITY HAS LAUNCHED, UH, SEVERAL INITIATIVES IN THIS, UH, CALENDAR YEAR 2022, BEGINNING IN APRIL WITH OUR METRO HEALTH DEPARTMENT LAUNCH ITS ESSAY FORWARD PLAN, WHICH IS THEIR STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE WORK THAT THEY, THAT THEY DO AND PROMOTE. THERE ARE SIX PRIORITY AREAS INCLUDED IN THE SA FORWARD PLAN, AND ONE OF THOSE AREAS IS SPECIFICALLY VIOLENCE PREVENTION. SO, AS YOU KNOW, METRO HEALTH HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON THE RESPONSE TO C OVID 19 FOR THE PAST, UH, TWO AND A HALF YEARS. SO THEY'RE NOW SHIFTING, UM, TO OTHER PRIORITIES. SO OUR COMMUNITY VIOLENCE PREVENTION IS ONE OF THOSE. ALSO, IN APRIL OF 2022, THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT ENGAGE, UH, U T S A, SPECIFICALLY THE DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINOLOGY AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE, TO HELP US DEVELOP A VIOLENT CRIME REDUCTION PLAN. THIS VIOLENT CRIME REDUCTION PLAN, UH, AIMS TO REDUCE VIOLENT CRIME IN THE CITY'S MOST, UH, VIOLENCE PRONE AREAS, AND AMONGST THE MOST VIOLENCE PRONE OFFENDERS, WITH A GOAL OF REDUCING AGGREGATE LEVELS OF, UH, VIOLENT CRIME IN OUR COMMUNITY. THIS PLAN IS UNDERWAY, AND WE ARE, UH, GONNA BE PRESENTING THE COMPLETED PLAN TO THE CITY COUNCIL AT A B SESSION IN EARLY 2023. UM, ALSO IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022, WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 23 BUDGET, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE REALLOCATION OF A METRO HEALTH POSITION TO CREATE A POSITION THAT WOULD BE FOCUSED ON CRIME AND RECIDIVISM. UH, THIS POSITION WILL ACT AS THE INTERDEPARTMENT LIAISON THAT WILL COORDINATE ALL THE EFFORTS BY ALL OF OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS AS IT RELATES TO ADDRESSING, UM, CRIME AND RECIDIVISM IN, IN OUR CITY. UH, ALSO THIS POSITION WILL BE WORKING WITH OUR METRO HEALTH, UH, DEPARTMENT AND THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, TO MAKE, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEASURING AND MONITORING ALL THE INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE RELATED TO VIOLENCE PREVENTION AND HOW THESE ARE IMPACTING, UH, CRIME IN OUR COMMUNITY. THIS POSITION WILL REPORT, UH, DIRECTLY TO ME, AND WE ARE EXPECTING TO HAVE THAT POSITION FILLED IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF CALENDAR YEAR 2023. SO, AS THE CITY CONTINUES OUR EFFORTS TO ADDRESS, UH, VIOLENCE, PROBATION USING A PUBLIC HEALTH APPROACH, OUR METRO HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UH, WAS SELECTED AMONG 17 OTHER TEAMS IN THE UNITED STATES TO PARTICIPATE IN, UH, AN EFFORT THROUGH THE NATIONAL LEADERSHIP ACADEMY FOR THE PUBLIC'S HEALTH. UH, AND IN, IN THE CASE FOR SAN ANTONIO IS TO DEVELOP A COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGIC VIOLENCE PREVENTION PLAN. UM, THIS, UM, UH, THE, THE PARTICIPATION IN THE NATIONAL LEADERSHIP ACADEMY WILL PROVIDE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO TO DEVELOP THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE TEAM, THE SAN ANTONIO TEAM, IS COMPRISED OF MEMBERS OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. THAT INCLUDES THE DEPARTMENTS OF METRO HEALTH, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND ALSO THE CRIME AND IV ASSIMILATION POSITION THAT WAS CITED IN THE BUDGET. WE'RE ALSO PARTNERING WITH THE, THE, WITH U T S A AND ALSO WITH THE ST. JOHN BAPTIST CHURCH, UH, TO WORK ON THIS PLAN. THE PLAN IS AS, AS A MULTI-SECTORAL PLAN THAT WILL, UM, GATHER FEEDBACK AND INPUT FROM OUR COMMUNITY AND STAKEHOLDERS AS IT RELATES TO ADDRESSING VIOLENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE'LL UPDATE THE CITY'S DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PLAN. YOU MAY RECALL THE METRO HEALTH LED THE EFFORT, UM, ALMOST FOUR YEARS AGO TO DEVELOP THE FIRST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PLAN, AND WE WILL BE UPDATING THAT PLAN. AS PART OF THIS EFFORT. WE'RE ALSO GONNA INCLUDE ALL THE IMPORT OTHER IMPORTANT ISSUES SUCH AS SHOOTINGS THAT HAPPEN IN OUR COMMUNITY, CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT, SEXUAL ABUSE, AND ACTS OF MASS, UH, VIOLENCE. [00:25:01] AND ALSO VERY CRITICAL. THIS COMPREHENSIVE, UH, VIOLENCE PREVENTION PLAN WILL INTEGRATE THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT VIOLENT CRIME REDUCTION PLAN THAT IS BEING COMPLETED BY U T S A. UH, WE, UM, WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THE, THE WORK PLAN TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, UM, TO PROVIDE PERIODIC UPDATES TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AS THE PLAN IS DEVELOPED. AND WE AN ANTICIPATE THAT THIS PLAN WILL BE COMPLETED BY THE FALL OF 2023. SO, BASED ON THE ONGOING INITIATIVES THAT I MENTIONED FROM, UH, METRO HEALTH AND THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT, ALONG WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE VIOLENCE PREVENTION PLAN, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS ADDRESSES THE PRIORITIES OF THIS C C R. SO, UH, WE ARE NOT RECOMMENDING THE CREATION OF AN OFFICE OF, UH, CRIME AND RECIDIVISM PREVENTION. AS I MENTIONED, THE CURRENT INITIATIVES AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WILL ADDRESS THE PRIORITIES OF, UM, OF THE C C R. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. MAYOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MARIA. THIS WAS A COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST FILED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ. SO LET ME GIVE HIM THE FLOOR TO OFFER HIS, UM, GUIDANCE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HELLO, ESTEEMED COLLEAGUES. THANK YOU, MARIA, FOR THAT, UH, PRESENTATION. UM, YOU KNOW, I, I WANT TO FIRST OFF START BY SAYING, NAMING THAT THE CITY IS OFF TO A GREAT START IN OUR EFFORTS TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY AND VIOLENT CRIME PREVENTION. AND IT'S CERTAINLY BEEN A FOCUS OF MOST OF, UH, MOST OF COUNSEL, IF NOT ALL. HOWEVER, I DON'T WANT US TO UNDERESTIMATE THE ENORMITY OF THE TASK THAT WE'RE TAKING ON. AND VIOLENT CRIME IS NOT THE ONLY CRIME KEEPING MY CONSTITUENTS UP AT NIGHT. I WANNA BE CLEAR THAT THE INTENTION OF THE C C R IS NOT BEING MET BY THE CONTENTS OF THIS BRIEFING. AND, YOU KNOW, IN NAMING THAT EVERY CITY DEPARTMENT HAS A ROLE TO PLAY IN PREVENTING CRIMES OF ALL TYPES, FROM THEFT TO GRAFFITI, TO DRUG AND SUBSTANCE USE, TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS AND MORE. YOU KNOW, THE INTENT OF THE C C R WAS THE ENVISIONMENT OF AN OFFICE THAT CAN DO ONE OF THE TASKS THAT WAS NAMED, WHICH IS SERVE AS LIAISON BETWEEN ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS TO RESEARCH AND, UH, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. BUT ALSO A PART OF THAT WOULD BE, UH, WORKING WITH THE CITY DEPARTMENTS TO RESEARCH AND MANAGE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES RELATED TO CRIME PREVENTION IN THEIR SPECIFIC DEPARTMENT. COLLABORATE TO DEVELOP INNOVATIVE STRATEGIES SUCH AS CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL AND SOCIETAL DESIGN. AND, YOU KNOW, I AM GRATEFUL THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET A SINGLE POSITION TO BEGIN SOME OF THAT WORK, BUT IT WILL NEED MORE SUPPORT. CITY STAFF MAY NOT RECOMMEND THE STRATEGY TODAY, BUT THERE WERE A FEW THINGS IN THEIR PRE PRESENTATION THAT THEY DID NOT RECOMMEND EARLIER, INCLUDING THAT CRIME PREVENTION COORDINATOR. AND AGAIN, WHILE I APPRECIATE EVERY ITEM ON THE LIST STAFF PRESENTED, EACH OF THEM SPECIFICALLY TARGETS VIOLENT CRIME. AND VIOLENT CRIMES ARE NOT THE ONLY CRIMES THAT IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY. THEY'RE NOT THE ONLY CRIMES THAT OUR OFFICERS HAVE TO RESPOND TO. THEY'RE NOT THE ONLY CRIMES THAT HURT OUR COMMUNITY, NOR ARE THEY THE ONLY CRIMES THAT LEAD PEOPLE TO INCARCERATION. AND AN EVENTUAL CYCLE OF RECIDIVISM AND ESCALATION IN THOSE STRATEGIES. STAFF PRESENTED, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE NEEDS THAT ARE NOT BEING MET. SO WHO'S GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ONGOING, ONGOING RESEARCH, DATA COLLECTION ANALYSIS AFTER OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH U T S A HAS ENDED? WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR FINDING AND COORDINATING CRIME PREVENTION GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS LIKE ARTS AND CULTURE OR PUBLIC WORKS? WHO WOULD ADVISE THAT EACH CITY DEPARTMENT ON CRIMES HAPPENING THAT THEY COULD PLAY A ROLE IN PREVENTING? AND WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR TRACKING CRIME PREVENTION EFFORTS, UH, EXISTING WITHIN THOSE CITY DEPARTMENTS AND MAKING SPECIALIZED RECOMMENDATIONS? I WOULD ALSO ASK, WHO CURRENTLY IMPLEMENTS PREVENTION OF NONVIOLENT CRIMES LIKE GRAFFITI CRIMES BY MINORS, DRUG AND SUBSTANCE USE AND SALE AND SHOPLIFTING, WHO'S CURRENTLY MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CRIME, UH, PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN, AS I NAMED EARLIER, ADDRESSING SYSTEMIC ISSUES AND ROOT CAUSES OF ALL TYPES OF CRIME WILL REQUIRE LONG-TERM THINKING COORDINATION BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS, CONSISTENCY AND INNOVATION. ECONOMIC AND DEEPLY PERSONAL BLOWS HAVE LEFT MANY SAN ANTONIO COMMUNITIES IN A STATE OF HOPELESSNESS AND DESPERATION, A STATE THAT WHEN COUPLED WITH POVERTY AND UNCERTAINTY'S CONDUCIVE TO CRIME. AND IF WE TRULY WANT TO REDUCE THE BURDEN ON OUR OFFICERS, ON OUR COMMUNITY, WE NEED A MORE WELL-ROUNDED, THOROUGH STRATEGIC APPROACH. AND IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF, YOU KNOW, I HONESTLY BELIEVE THIS IS NOT A QUESTION OF IF WE WILL EVER HAVE AN OFFICE, BECAUSE WE WILL JUST AS MANY OTHER MAJOR CITIES ARE. IT'S A QUESTION OF WHEN AND WILL IT BE NOW WHEN WE HAVE THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY, OR WILL IT BE LATER WHEN WE FIND OURSELVES FALLING BEHIND? I WANNA RESTATE THE INTENTION OF MY C C R WAS CRIME AT LARGE, WHILE THE ACTIONS LISTED IN SCOPE OF CURRENT PROGRAMMING ADDRESS VIOLENT CRIME PRIMARILY. AND I WOULD REQUEST THAT THIS ITEM GO TO PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, THE ORIGINAL C C R. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER MAKI RODRIGUEZ. WE'LL START WITH OUR COUNCIL DISCUSSION NOW. COUNCIL MEMBER CAB HDA. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU TO COUNCILMAN MCU RODRIGUEZ [00:30:01] FOR BEING HERE TODAY AND DISCUSSING YOUR C C R. UM, UH, THANKS ALSO, OF COURSE, TO STAFF AND ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE PUT INTO THIS. UM, I APPRECIATE THE, THE PUBLIC HEALTH APPROACH TO ADDRESSING CRIME. EVERYONE AT THIS TABLE HAS HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR, UH, COMMUNITIES ABOUT THE PREVENTION OF CRIME. UM, AND THE USUAL RESPONSE IS FOR MORE POLICE OFFICERS, WHICH IS THE REAL IMMEDIATE CONCERN. UM, BUT CRIME IS, AS WE KNOW, CONNECTED TO MENTAL HEALTH, POVERTY, JOBS, AND EDUCATION. THOSE ARE IN TURN, CONNECTED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, EDUCATION, AND OPPORTUNITY. I THINK WE CAN APPROACH CRIME FOR MANY DIFFERENT LENSES, BUT I, I BELIEVE THAT THE PUBLIC HEALTH LENS, THE PUBLIC HEALTH ENTRANCE TO THE ISSUE IS THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE ONE. I ALSO THINK THAT THE CITY DOES THAT REALLY WELL. UM, WE, WE HAVE PROGRAMMING, YOU KNOW, READY TO WORK, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF YOUTH PROGRAMMING, ET CETERA. UM, THAT REALLY LOOKS INTO A LOT OF THE ROOTS, UH, OF, OF CRIME. BUT I, I ALSO BELIEVE THAT WE CAN ALWAYS LOOK INTO DIFFERENT WAYS OF DOING THAT AND, AND JUST KIND OF MORE COMPREHENSIVE, UH, VIEWPOINT IN THAT REGARD. UM, I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN SOLVE THE, THE CRIME PROBLEM WITHOUT ADDRESSING THE NEEDS THAT WRAP AROUND THE CRIME ISSUE. UM, SO ANYWAY, I'M ENCOURAGED BY THIS DIRECTION, AND I PLAN TO STRONGLY SUPPORT AND GUIDE THIS CRIME PREVENTION EFFORT FROM MY POSITION AS CHAIR OF PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. AND, AND THANKFUL THAT THERE WILL BE REGULAR UPDATES TO ADD TO OUR AGENDA, BECAUSE IT'S NOT ALREADY SUPER PACKED, RIGHT, MARIA . BUT, BUT THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT. IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DO. UM, AND I, I'M GRATEFUL WE'RE GONNA DO IT ONCE A QUARTER. I WOULD LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY, WELL, JUST REAL QUICKLY, I, I THINK ALSO THIS IS BEYOND POLICING. IT'S, UH, IT, IT'S, IT'S MORE OF A STUDY OF, UM, OF CRIME IN SAN ANTONIO, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN, WE CAN ATTACK CRIME. I, I'D LIKE A MORE THOROUGH OPPORTUNITY TO COMPARE THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE C C R WITH, UM, WITH OUR CURRENT EFFORT EFFORTS, UM, GET A LITTLE MORE FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCILMAN AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS AND TO FLESH THIS OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE. SO I MOVED TO SEND THIS ITEM TO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. OKAY. THERE WAS A MOTION. WAS THERE SECOND? SECOND. ALL RIGHT. TO, UH, MOVE ITEM FOUR TO PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. UM, WE WILL, WE'LL CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSION HERE. UH, COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, I, I AM ENCOURAGED BY WHAT I'M HEARING THAT THE, UH, CITY IS, IS WORKING ON. ONE THING THAT, UH, I DIDN'T SEE HERE, AND I, MAYBE I'M CONFUSED, BUT I SEE WE'VE GOT, UM, AN ENGAGEMENT WITH U T S A TO DO A STUDY, UH, AND IT WAS LOOKING AT REDUCING VIOLENT CRIME. I THOUGHT WE ALSO HAD A STUDY THAT WAS LOOKING AT THE SIZE AND SHAPE OF OUR POLICE FORCE, UH, COMPARING IT TO OTHER CITIES AS FAR AS HOW MANY OFFICERS THERE ARE, UH, WHAT PARTICULAR AREAS WITHIN EACH DEPARTMENT NEED MORE SUPPORT, THINGS LIKE THAT. IS THAT ALSO IN THE WORKS? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER? YOU'RE CORRECT. SO THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT STUDIES. OKAY. UM, THE U T S A STUDY IS FOCUSED ON VIOLENT CRIME PREVENTION STRATEGIES. AND, UH, WE HAVE ANOTHER STUDY, UH, THAT IS BEING DONE BY DR. WISE, AND THAT IS ON A STAFFING MODEL FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE METHODOLOGY ON HOW WE WOULD ADD ADDITIONAL POSITIONS, AND ALSO A REVIEW OF THE CURRENT NUMBER OF, UM, AUTHORIZATIONS THAT WE HAVE IN ALL OF THE DIFFERENT UNITS WITHIN SS A P D. RIGHT? YOU KNOW, I THINK ALL OF THESE REALLY ARE, NEED TO BE INTEGRATED IN WHERE THE CITY DECIDES TO GO. FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE HEAR WE NEED MORE, UH, POLICE OFFICERS WORKING ON GANG VIOLENCE, YOU KNOW, THEN WE NEED TO KNOW THAT. OR IF WE NEED MORE, WHICH I THINK WE DO ON PATROLLING THE STREETS FOR, UH, DRIVING PROBLEMS, SPEEDING AND DRUNK DRIVER, ET CETERA, YOU KNOW, THEN WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT AS PART OF AN OVERALL, UH, DIRECTION. AND I THINK WHOEVER IS GOING TO, UH, KIND OF OVERSEE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF BOTH OF THESE STUDIES AND, UH, WORK WITH THIS AS A HEALTH ISSUE, I THINK NEEDS TO HAVE, IT NEEDS TO BE FLESHED OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND I THINK THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE IS THE RIGHT PLACE TO DO THIS. SO AT THIS TIME, I SUPPORT, UH, MOVING THIS TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING THOSE TWO REPORTS TOO, SOMETIME SOON. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. FURTHER DISCUSSION. COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHE GARCIA. THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR ERIC. IS IT A FUNDING ISSUE, LIKE THE CREATION OF AN OFFICE? IS IT A FUNDING ISSUE? UHHUH , LIKE, I MEAN, I KNOW IT WOULD COST MORE MONEY, BUT, UH, IS, WAS THAT [00:35:01] AT ALL TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION FROM, FROM THE STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE? UHHUH ? NO. OKAY. NO, IT WASN'T. I MEAN, I, AND THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT, THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TALKED ABOUT, UM, IN THE BUDGET. I MEAN, I, THERE ARE, I THINK THERE'S, UM, AND WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH COUNCILMAN, UM, MCKEE RODRIGUEZ. THERE ARE, UM, UH, PROBABLY CORE ISSUES THAT, THAT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, UM, GENERATED THE RECOMMENDATION YOU SAW TODAY, UM, THE, THE, THE C C R CALLS FOR, AND, AND IN TOP, ON TOP OF WHAT MARIA'S DESCRIBED, WE'RE ENGAGING WITH FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, FROM METRO HEALTH AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN SERVICES. BECAUSE LITERALLY MUCH OF WHAT WE DO AS A CITY IS DESIGNED IN PART TO SYSTEMATICALLY REDUCE CRIME OR MAKE PEOPLE SAFER, WHETHER IT'S SIDEWALKS OR STREETS OR ARTS PROGRAMS. I MEAN, IT IS ALL LOOSELY TIED. UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK, AND THIS WASN'T YOUR QUESTION, AND I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA THAT'S OKAY. KIND OF WEIGH IN HERE, IF YOU DON'T MIND. THE, FROM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THE DECENTRALIZATION OR CENTRALIZATION OF RESPONSIBILITY, UM, IT HAS TO BE BALANCED. UM, THE, I DON'T REALLY WANT, AS A CITY MANAGER, THE CHIEF NOT TO HAVE ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR CRIME PREVENTION. I DON'T REALLY WANT CLAUDE AND THE VIOLENCE PREVENTION DIVISION AND ERICA SITTING OVER HERE TO NOT HAVE ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR CRIME PREVENTION. SO, ORGANIZATIONALLY, I THINK IT'S VERY CRITICAL THAT WE THINK THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY? THE C C R TALKS ABOUT, UM, AN OFFICE ACCOUNTABLE FOR SOLUTIONS. THE, THE OFFICE THAT THAT'S ACCOUNTABLE FOR SOLUTIONS ARE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. SO CREATING AN OFFICE FOR SOLUTIONS, UM, UM, OR TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE IS A FORM OF DECENTRALIZATION. SO I THINK IT'S ORGANIZATIONALLY WE HAVE A PERSPECTIVE. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ARE TRYING TO ALSO PRIORITIZE TO COUNCILMAN KURT'S POINT, CRIME, VIOLENT CRIME IS UP, PROPERTY CRIME IS UP MORE THAN VIOLENT CRIME. UM, AND SO WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO FROM A POLICE STANDPOINT OR A METRO HEALTH STANDPOINT TO HELP PREVENT VIOLENT CRIME THAT IS THE PRIORITY. THERE ARE A LOT, THERE ARE A LOT OF CRIMES THAT HAPPEN IN THIS CITY. THE PRIORITY IS VIOLENT CRIME FIRST. UM, AND SO I, I THINK, I THINK IF WE, IF IT GOES TO PUBLIC SAFETY FURTHER CONVERSATION TO, TO, UM, ENSURE THAT WE'RE DOING WHAT WE NEED TO DO, THAT THE COMMUNITY EXPECTS. I, I THINK, UM, THE COUNCILMAN MCKEE RODRIGUEZ'S AMENDMENT IN THE ADOPTED BUDGET, THAT REALLOCATED A METRO HEALTH PERSON THAT IS GONNA BE KIND OF THAT NEXUS POINT THAT'LL REPORT TO MARIA, THAT'LL CROSS CUT ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION AND BE A LOT MORE NIMBLE. MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. WE'RE GONNA NEED SOMEBODY TO, TO TEAM UP WITH THE DATA TEAMS AND KEEP THE DATA THAT U T S A IS DOING UP TO SPEED AND UPDATED. UM, AND SOMEBODY THAT, THAT KIND OF DRIVES THAT IS, IS SUPER CRITICAL, I THINK, AND IS THE GLUE BETWEEN A LOT OF THE EFFORTS THAT WE'VE GOT. BUT, UM, I, I THINK IT'S MORE CONVERSATION. AND CERTAINLY I THINK WE ALL, IN THIS CASE, AND THE MAYOR AND I WERE IN A MEETING YESTERDAY AFTERNOON LATE WITH A BIG GROUP IN THIS ROOM. IN THIS CASE, IT'S THE SAME THING. WE ALL WANT TO GET TO THE SAME POINT ON THE HORIZON. IT'S HOW WE GET THERE AND HOW WE WORK TOGETHER TO DO IT. THANK YOU, ERIC. AND THE REASON THAT I WAS ASKING IS BECAUSE, UM, I WAS WONDERING IF THERE WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO AND LOOK, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A GRANT AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW AT THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE THAT CLOSES LAST DAY OF FEBRUARY NEXT YEAR. AND SO WHEN IT'S SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT THAT DATA THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? AND SO THAT WE CAN, UM, IDENTIFY, UH, HOW TO REALLY SUPPORT, UM, ACCESS TO JUSTICE AND SUPPORT CRIME VICTIMS AND INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE IMPACTED BY THE JUSTICE SYSTEM, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK WAS THE, AT THE HEART OF COUNCILMAN MAKI RODRIGUEZ'S, UM, C C R OR, OR AT THE INTENTION AT LEAST, UM, FROM, FROM WHAT I GATHERED FROM HIM. AND SO, UM, THAT'S WHY I WAS SPECIFIC ABOUT THE FUNDING, RIGHT? BECAUSE IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE, LIKE WHO, WHO WOULD, IN THIS CASE, IN, IN YOUR MODEL RIGHT NOW, WHO IN THIS CASE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR THOSE GRANTS TO SEE THAT WE DO, DO THAT? WELL, IN, IN THAT AREA, I WOULD SAY THE COUNTY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THAT GRANT. OKAY. I MEAN, OUR PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY IS THE ENFORCEMENT. IT'S NOT, UM, UM, IT'S NOT RECIDIVISM, RIGHT? IT IS A, IS AN ELEMENT OF OUR SOCIETY AND OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE DEAL WITH. AND MAYBE THERE ARE CITY PROGRAMS, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT'S THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S RESPONSIBILITY. UM, WE, WE, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR STAFFING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO 2 MILLION CALLS A YEAR. IS THERE A JOINT COUNTY, CITY TASK FORCE THAT WORKS [00:40:01] ON THIS? OR, OR, OR WHO WOULD BE THE JOINT? LIKE, SO, AND I HEAR THIS ALL THE TIME, RIGHT? SO I HEARD SOMETHING LAST WEEK AND THE COUNTY WAS PRESENT AND THE CITY'S GONNA BE EXPECTED TO DO IT, OR, THAT'S KIND OF MY TAKE, RIGHT? SO, BUT IS THIS LIKE A, YOU KNOW, HOW WE HAD THE JOINT I G R, LIKE IS THERE ANYTHING JOINT THAT WORKS WITH CITY AND COUNTY ON, ON THINGS LIKE THIS SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF THIS? IT'S, IT'S CLOSELY CONNECTED. THE ONLY THING THAT WE, UH, WELL, MARIA MAY HAVE ANOTHER EXAMPLE. THE ONLY THING THAT WE, THAT EXISTS RIGHT NOW IS A MONTHLY MEETING BETWEEN, UH, THE DA'S OFFICE, THE CHIEF MARIA AND I, UH, AND THE DA'S EXECUTIVE STAFF, JUST TO STAY COORDINATED, UM, HIGH LEVEL. UM, BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT MAYBE THAT WITH THE INCOMING JUDGE, THE, MAYBE THE MAYOR COULD SPEAK TO THE NEW JUDGE. YEAH. BECAUSE WE ARE ALL LINKED. YEAH, EXACTLY. AND I WOULD SAY ANOTHER, UH, GOOD EXAMPLE IS A COLLABORATIVE ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. YES, EXACTLY. UH, IS THE COUNTY, THE CD, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, UH, PROVIDING THE SERVICES. UM, SO WE HAVE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WE HAVE THE DA, WE HAVE THE, THE JUDGES THAT ARE PART OF THIS COLLABORATIVE. AND, UM, AND, AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE'RE MEETING TODAY TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF OUR EFFORTS, UM, AS WE CONCLUDE THE CALENDAR YEAR AND OUR WORK PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR. AND ONE OF THE PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED IS THE, UM, UH, UPDATE OF THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PLAN, THE METRO HEALTH DID ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO WITH THE IMPACT OF COVID 19. SOME OF THOSE STRATEGIES NEED TO BE UPDATED. SO A LOT OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING IN TERMS OF HOW WE ASSIST VICTIMS TO GET ASSISTANCE AS WE ARE FOCUSED ON THE SYSTEM, UH, OF, UM, PROVIDING, UH, SERVICES TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE FACING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND HOW WE COLLABORATE AS, AS THE, THE COUNTY AND THE CITY AND THE OTHER TEAM MEMBERS. SO THAT'S AN, THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF, OF HOW WE ARE COLLABORATING WITH THE COUNTY ON ADDRESSING A VERY IMPORTANT, UH, VIOLENT CRIME IN OUR COMMUNITY. WELL, I THINK THAT THIS IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. AND I, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A JOINT COMMITTEE AND THAT THAT MIGHT BE MY RECOMMENDATION. RIGHT. AND SO NOT, I DON'T WANT, I HATE ADDING COMMITTEES. I FEEL LIKE I'M THE QUEEN OF COMMITTEE CREATION, , SORRY, ERIC. UM, BUT I, I DO THINK THAT IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING, UH, COORDINATED, RIGHT? AND THAT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY ARE BOTH WORKING ON THIS. I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S, UM, CIVIL RIGHTS AND, AND RACIAL EQUITY THAT WE COULD ADDRESS TOGETHER. AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE ARE DOING THAT, RIGHT? AND SO, UM, THIS SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND THIS SIDE OF THE HOUSE, WE, WE PLAY IN OUR OWN SANDBOXES SPECIFICALLY IN THIS AREA. AND I, I REALLY THINK THAT MIGHT BE MORE TO WHERE COUNCILMAN MAKI RODRIGUEZ MIGHT, MIGHT GET SOME, UM, ADDED, UH, FUEL IN THIS. BUT THANK YOU. THOSE, THOSE ARE ALL MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHE GARCIA, COUNCIL MEMBER KEO. HOVE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST TO ADDRESS THAT, WE HAVE, I HAVE TALK WITH, UH, COMMISSIONERS ABOUT, UH, SOME KIND OF JOINT. WE ALSO HAVE THE JOINT, UM, ON ELDERLY AFFAIRS. WE, WE MEET NOT VERY OFTEN ANYMORE ON ELDERLY AFFAIRS. UM, BUT, BUT THE PROBLEM WITH IT AND, AND THE TALKS IS THAT IT'S, THIS IS A VERY BROAD ISSUE. UM, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND ELDERLY AFFAIRS ARE VERY SPECIFIC AND TARGETED. AND SO IT GETS TO BE SORT OF OUT OF HAND WHEN I HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS, UM, WITH THE COUNTY. I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T DO IT, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY SPECIFIC AND PINPOINT WHAT THE, UM, THE, THE, THE GOAL IS REALLY WHAT, WHAT OUTCOME WE'RE LOOKING FOR WITH THE COUNTY. UM, BUT YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. WE, WE'VE TALKED, I'VE TALKED A LOT, UM, SPECIFICALLY WITH A COUPLE OF THE COMMISSIONERS ABOUT IT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COBE HARBOR. DID YOU WANNA REACT TO SOMETHING, ERIC? I WAS JUST GONNA SUGGEST, I MEAN, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE ON THE GOVERNANCE AND, YOU KNOW, UM, FOR JANUARY, AND THIS IS SEPARATE APART FROM THE ACTION BEFORE THE COUNCIL OR THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE. BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD BRAINSTORM ABOUT HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE NARROWLY IDENTIFY THAT? I WILL SAY THAT ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO, UH, MAYOR TAYLOR AND JUDGE WOLF ESTABLISHED A TASK FORCE THAT, UM, HAD, UH, IT WAS TOO LARGE AND IT WAS TOO BROAD TO YOUR POINT. UM, AND MET FOR ABOUT EIGHT OR NINE MONTHS, BUT DIDN'T REALLY GET TRACTION BECAUSE IT WAS BROAD. AND MAYBE WE, WE COULD BRAINSTORM WITH COM, THE COMMITTEE CHAIR AND, AND THE COMMITTEE ABOUT HOW TO PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK TO YOU, MAYOR, AS YOU TALK TO THE NEW JUDGE IN, UH, IN EARLY 2023. AND MAYBE THERE'S A FOCUSED EFFORT WE CAN ENGAGE ON. JUST REAL QUICK TO ADD, UM, WHAT WE HAVE DONE, UM, JUST TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITHOUT THE JOINT, IS WE, WE REGULARLY INVITE, UH, THE COUNTY TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND THEY COME AND TALK WITH US, DA, ALL THE DIFFERENT, UM, ASPECTS OF IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? LEMME LET ME ADD SOME INPUT. UM, AND FIRST, I APOLOGIZE FOR [00:45:01] A VERY BAD CASE. HICCUPS IF I HICCUP IN THE MIDDLE OF WHAT I'M SAYING. UM, SO I, I, I AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT'S BEEN SAID. I DISAGREE WITH SOME OF WHAT'S BEEN SAID. UM, FIRST I THINK MY READING OF THE POINT AND THE INTENT OF THE C C R IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT HERE, WHICH IS THAT CRIME PREVENTION RECIDIVISM IS NOT THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. IT'S NOT THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF ANY DEPARTMENT. IT'S NOT THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE METRO HEALTH DEPARTMENT. FRANKLY, IT'S SHARED RESPONSIBILITY ACROSS THE BOARD OF THE ORGANIZATION, WHICH IS WHY WE INVEST IN THINGS LIKE HOUSING AND, UH, EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, WORKFORCE OPPORTUNITIES, UM, PROPER CARE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, HEALTH FACILITY ACCESS, ET CETERA, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE DO. SO TO SAY THAT WE'RE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF RECIDIVISM AND PROVIDE PREVENTION, I TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH. I THINK PART OF THE CHALLENGE IS THAT AS WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE SORT OF ENTERING INTO A PARADOXICAL CONVERSATION BECAUSE, UH, IN OUR EFFORT TO SORT OF COORDINATE THAT CONVERSATION, THE INITIAL REACTION FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, THE BUREAUCRATIC TENDENCY OF A GOVERNMENT IS TO PUT IT INTO A DEPARTMENT. I'M NOT SURE THAT'S THE ANSWER. I DO THINK THAT OUR, OUR PROPER LENS FOR THIS THOUGH, IS TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN HAVE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE CONVERSATION AND ONE THAT'S COORDINATED AND, AND, AND STAY FOCUSED ON THE OUTCOMES. I THINK OUR, OUR BEST POSITION AND OUR, OUR MOST POWERFUL POSITION AS COUNCIL MEMBERS AND AS A COMMITTEE IS TO STAY FOCUSED ON THE POLICY OUTCOMES. WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ACHIEVE? WE WANNA SEE LESS, UM, CRIME, UH, ACROSS THE BOARD, VIOLENT CRIME AS WELL AS PROPERTY CRIME. AND WE WANNA SEE LESS, UH, FIRST TIME OFFENDERS BECOMING REPEAT OFFENDERS AND GOING DOWN A PATH. UH, SO WHAT DO WE, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THERE? I, I, FRANKLY, ERIC, I HAVE TRIED TO MAKE IT A HABIT TO ASK, WHAT DO YOU NEED TO ACHIEVE THE OUTCOME? UM, AND I'M ALSO A BIG BELIEVER THAT ACCOUNTABILITY FLOWS TO THE TOP. IF IT GETS TO YOUR DESK, IT'S TOO LATE. IF, IF IT GETS TO YOUR DESK, IT'S COMING TO OUR DESKS AS WELL. AND ULTIMATELY, THE CITY COUNCIL'S THE ONE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS ISSUE, UM, IN MY OFFICE AS WELL. SO, YOU KNOW, I, I DO THINK THE DOGGEDNESS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER, MCKEE RODRIGUEZ AND HIS OFFICE HAVE BEEN ON THIS ISSUE, HAS LED US TO A BETTER PATH ALREADY. WE'VE ALL AGREED THAT WE NEED AT LEAST A LIAISON. UH, AND I, I, I DO WANT TO SEE THAT SORT OF TRACKED AND, AND SEE IF WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS. 'CAUSE IT MIGHT END UP BEING THAT WE DO NEED MORE THAN JUST A LIAISON. UM, BUT MY FOCUS WILL BE ON THE OUTCOMES, COORDINATING THE CONVERSATION, TRYING TO KEEP US FROM GETTING THIS CONVERSATION INTO A NEW SILO OUT OF THE, OUT OF THE INITIAL SILOS, INTO, INTO A BRAND NEW SILO. I'M NOT IN A POSITION TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW WHETHER WE NEED A DEPARTMENT OR NOT AN OFFICE OR NOT, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A BETTER COORDINATED CONVERSATION. AND THAT INCLUDES WITH THE COUNTY. I'M, I'M, I ALSO, I HEAR TASK FORCE COMMITTEE BEING FORMED, AND I THINK I'M, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT EITHER, JUST BECAUSE THAT, THAT'S ANOTHER SILO VENUE WHEN WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMITTEES ALREADY GOING ON. BUT I, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE SORT OF ALL TALKING AROUND THE SAME ISSUES. UH, I THINK WE ALL HAVE THE SAME VISION. WE ALL WANNA SEE THE SAME OUTCOMES. IT'S JUST HOW DO WE GET THERE MOST EFFICIENTLY AND MORE, MOST EFFECTIVELY, UM, BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, FRANKLY, THE, THE FACT THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION AND WE'RE NOT UNIQUE TO ANY OTHER CITY IN THE COUNTRY IS ALREADY TOO LATE. UM, WE CAN DO BETTER. WE HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO BETTER. WE JUST NEED TO ALIGN THOSE RESOURCES BEST WE CAN. I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, THE WORK THAT, UH, SA FOUR, THE METRO HEALTH TEAM HAS DONE IN CONCERT WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS ALREADY BEEN, UH, A GREAT BENEFIT TO THIS. I'M REALLY ANXIOUS TO SEE, UM, THE WORK OF THE U T S A, UH, TEAM WITH OUR DEPARTMENTS. UH, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BEAR A LOT OF FRUIT. DO WE WANT TO PIVOT BEFORE WE GET ANY OF THAT? NOT SURE. UM, I THINK IT'S ALREADY GONNA START MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT, UM, IT'S BEEN A GOOD DISCUSSION. I, I DO SUPPORT MOVEMENT TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. AND, AND FRANKLY, ANY OUTCOME IS ALWAYS ON THE TABLE FOR US. IF WE DON'T GET TO THE OUTCOMES WE WANT, WE CAN PIVOT AND GO TO ANOTHER DIRECTION. I THINK. I THINK THE STEPS WE'VE TAKEN ALREADY THOUGH ARE, ARE POSITIVE AND ARE WORTH TRACKING. AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHERE, WHERE WE ARE AS IT, AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD. AND IF I SAY ANYTHING THAT ANYBODY DISAGREES WITH, NOW'S YOUR CHANCE, BECAUSE I'M GONNA CLOSE THE DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, UM, THERE IS A MOTION TO SECOND TO MOVE THIS TO PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. [00:50:01] THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS. I THINK THAT CURED MY HICCUPS. IT'S 2:00 PM MAYOR. UM, I, I DO WANNA SAY THAT, UM, MANY OF YOU HAVE TO SIT THROUGH THESE MEETINGS AND YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DO AS A REWARD FOR YOUR PATIENTS. I'VE, I BROUGHT Y'ALL A BUNCH OF DONUTS FROM KRISPY KREME. SO, UH, PHILIP, THANKS. WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT HERE, . BAD, BAD FORM. COUNCILMAN, CHIEF. CHIEF, YOU'RE ORDERED NOT TO EAT A DONUT. . ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU GUYS. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.